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You're not forced to have slaves if you don't like slavery. Why are you against slave owners then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:49 AM
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Almost certainly far less. Just being 6‘4“ tall reduces you to less than 2% of the population even before you get to anything else. The person you're referencing is 0.05% or even less.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 12:42 PM
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As a typical company you offer disability insurance to your employees that will pay you for the rest of your life if you get disabled while doing the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 03:11 PM
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It's called "making an analogy to prove a point".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:21 PM
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Makes literally no difference. You can replace security guard with "wife" and everything still holds. A man may want a non-paraplegic wife because you can do more things with someone who isn't confined to a wheelchair. It doesn't matter it she used to walk around just fine before you met her, rejecting her because her current state would be a burden on your life that you're not willing to deal with is not "punishing" her, it's just looking after yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:39 PM
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If a 30 yr old women didn't even know you when she was 20 there's no way she could've even chosen to give you her "best". Doesn't matter. Youre going to just punish older women because they didnt know you 10 years ago. Thats illogical. There is no punishment involved here. He's just looking after his own benefits and helping those who helped him in the past, he doesn't even think about whether something is or isn't punishing to some other random woman. He doesn't want to punish them, he's not ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 11:49 AM
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Sex isn't a service. Economists and prostitutes disagree. Sex is a service just as much as getting a massage is a service. It's also an activity done with a living, human being, one who chooses who it's done with. And just like how I can value a massage in dollars, I can also value sex in dollars. You not being able to do this is a deficiency in your mode of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 08:15 AM
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Sex and relationships are competitive and nobody is entitled to those things. So are jobs, and yet if the unemployment rate was 30% it would be a massive societal problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 11:31 PM
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Generally you control for religiosity in these surveys etc., any source that doesn't control for things like it and other well known confounders like household income is garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 11:01 PM
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No she should be a virgin and he too should follow the same standards he expects from his wife, i.e. not sleep with anyone he isn't willing to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 11:19 PM
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Another potential drawback is older cultures may want to care for their parents and not ship them off to an old folks home This is not a drawback but rather a benefit. When you are old your children will care for you too (assuming you raise them well) rather than ship you off into an old care home.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 11:16 PM
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Good point. This person needs empathy, but so do all the suffering men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:43 PM
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Seems to apply to very specific man though. Says here it was based on these men’s ratings not all men. This bit. If the men's whose ratings were taken made up a representative sample then you don't need to survey all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 02:42 PM
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As long as the men were a large enough representative sample that's enough. This is basic statistics. You don't need to measure every single person in the world to get an idea of what the average human height is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 02:07 PM
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It was still stigmatised relative to being chaste, while sleeping around is not stigmatised relative to being chaste in modern progressive society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 02:37 PM
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They didn't fuck around as much, and even when they did it was seen as a moral vice. Yes some men visited a lot of prostitutes in the old days, but what they were doing was never seen as morally OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 10:41 AM
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No, that is choosing the superior woman. Opting out is swearing off women altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:18 PM
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Pair bonding isn’t a real thing For everyone else: Anybody who denies human biology this basic should not be listened to on these matters. The existence of human pair bonding is well established in biology and there are many disparate completely independent arguments that all imply it is highly highly likely to exist given human behaviour/physiology compared to other animals, see here for a recent example: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fevo.2019.00230/full
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 01:43 AM
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3 = all the power to you, but you better treat her like the wife she's agreed to be (a goddamm queen of the castle) Yep, that's exactly how I intend to treat my future wife. Men in our culture at my level of social status basically go out and earn and hand their salary to their wife who then spends what she needs to keep the household running and hands the remainder back for the man to invest for the kids etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:19 PM
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Nope, they aren't particularly high priorities, they're more general questions to see her attitude towards making life easy for us as a couple rather than being focused on "me,me,me" as well as sus out any progressive tendencies she may have (massive red flag). I don't even mind doing all the cooking and cleaning myself (My wife will probably be a less good cook than me). (1) How do you feel about exercise? (2) How do you feel about fast food? These are also good questions to ask. But making sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:46 PM
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Satan from Paradise Lost LMAO. I am so so using that line in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:48 PM
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Yep, and that's a problem with western culture if you ask me. In places like India as the country develops women have become less likely to work outside the home than before, which keeps house prices based on a single earners income and lets it stay affordable, see: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SL.TLF.CACT.FE.ZS?locations=IN In fact this pattern of women joining the workforce as a country develops seems mostly limited to western cultures In my case I work in finance and can afford to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:41 PM
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Exactly. It's not the cooking and cleaning itself, but what the action of saying Yes/No to it signifies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:12 PM
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Oh, I absolutely agree the man should help around the house too with cooking/cleaning, it's not a one sided thing it's more about who the final "responsibility" for making sure the house is clean/there is food on the table falls on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:04 PM
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Happily. Fortunately I work in finance and earn enough to be able to provide for a wife and children in a good area. With good schools and where it’s safe to walk at 10 pm? I really don't like modern public education and will probably get my kids privately educated. I myself don't want to live in a neighbourhood where it's not safe to walk outside at night. My mother is a stay at home mom too and she raised us through a lot of hard work and dedication. I would never say that raising kids is "lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 03:19 PM
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My mom literally calls me multiple times a week asking when I'll come back to visit, as do (less frequently) my grandparents, aunts etc. We are not Westoids and we don't care about your BS because we realise that family is the most important thing in the world. I too wish I could go back home more often than I do. I have already had marriage offers from women back home, but didn't feel ready (plus she wasn't from a good enough family for me). I'm fine either way, I'm just giving advice to wester…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 03:07 PM
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Yes, my mom loved (and still loves) taking care of the family and making sure everything is right. She hasn't been corrupted by westoid degeneracy that teaches women that sacrificing to look after your family is bad. That is the exact sort of women I'm looking for, and if I can't find one like that, I'll just have to deprogram the brainwashing on a western woman (but again, I'd rather not do that). most people don’t Most people don't enjoy the constant 9-5 weekly grind either, but they still do …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 03:03 PM
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No, I do the cooking/cleaning right now, but I don't like doing it, I would rather not do it but I like filth even less so I clean. When I'm married I want my wife to do it instead of me because it is more efficient and saves the couple time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:53 PM
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No, the person doesn't start living in filth, the person starts expecting you to do 50% of the cooking and cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:49 PM
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Sure, that's fine, in fact if you're both high earners hiring a cleaning service makes sense since both of your's time is too valuable to be used for mere cleaning. You've found something that works well for both of you and that's a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:41 PM
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It isn't about whether a person can cook/clean, it's about whether they take on the responsibility of doing that for both of us while married. The question isn't Can you cook/clean, it's Will you cook/clean.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:39 PM
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Taxes often go to things we wouldn’t choose to support, Yes, that is why you support societal changes to stop taxing going to support them. You made reference to paying money to take the tube, so you live in the UK somewhere? That’s a Western culture. Do you go around there telling people they should live your culture? YesChad.jpg and also free to criticize the government without being arrested Not the UK anymore. Some people criticising Scotland's new trans policies on social media got arrested…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:55 PM
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The problem is that when people do stuff that doesn't work out in western culture, the government takes from those who do stuff which does work out to give to those who did stuff that doesn't work. We already have tons of good data showing modern western style marriages are less good long term than traditional marriages, however the welfare state means that trad marriages are subsidising western marraiges which fail at a higher rate. This isn't even like a random accident or something where you …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:40 PM
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A million in the bank isn’t enough to care for your family and retire comfortably. Sure, but if you need bigger sums that just means you need to take out a bigger cover. And what if he kills himself or does something else that nullifies the life insurance? Fair, but that's why you develop cultural memes against suicide as well as maintain strong family ties so you can identify any problems quickly and fix them before they get out of hand (people don't just go and commit suicide regularly), see h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:14 PM
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Not all cultures no, but modern western culture yes, since modern western culture is so irredeemably broken it needs to be replaced, and while my culture is probably not the best replacement, it's significantly better than what they have now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:04 PM
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Guess who is more likely to be neurotic between men and women... LMAO, OCEAN strikes again!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:02 PM
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Yes, and in that case they should have the responsibility for the household while their wife has the responsibility for the bread winning. I'm not arguing about male: earn, female: cook/clean, I'm saying that these responsibilities should be separated out between the couple instead of each doing 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:01 PM
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Even in societies where divorce is taboo, death and disability still occur. This is what life insurance is for. I'm surprised by how few people in the West have life insurance compared to back home. If my father were become permanently disabled tomorrow we would get paid out enough to basically buy a house outright and still have enough invested left over for my mother to live out the rest of her life at a similar standard of living to what we have now on the returns. Plus we also have a huge fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:59 PM
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In my culture (where I'm definitely going to get my wife from) the first part is basically implied. A man not capable of supporting a wife and children on his income will have extreme difficulties getting married in the first place. And women are also expected to cook/clean, it's just that some are now getting poisoned with western progressivism and still keep expecting the man to be a high earner while not wanting to do the cooking/cleaning/childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:56 PM
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They also don't want to split chores 50/50 only to be irremediably cunted as doing less. This is a human thing, in any 50/50 split each party thinks they are doing the majority of the work. Another reason why specific responsibilities should be split between a couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:54 PM
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More efficient and saves time/effort. Cooking for 2 people is not more effort than cooking for 1 person. Same as how I often pay for a tube ticket when I can just walk or bike from A to B.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:51 PM
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I cook for myself basically every day. I'm not against the man cooking, what I'm saying is that the responsibility for the house being clean and the table having food on it should fall on the woman (well, the partner with less earning potential more specifically). The man may even be a better cook (most of the best chefs are male) and he should cook as often as he feels like, but that isn't his responsibility, his responsibility is to make sure the bills are paid and the family bank balance is h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:49 PM
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Same as with the earnings. You're thinking of a marriage as having two separate people, in my culture marriage is a single unit with two people in it. Her career may top our earlier than his or have less long term potential, in which case it makes sense for her to sacrifice to support the man's career (and vice versa too, in which case the man should do the cooking and cleaning and the wife should do the breadwinning). Ofc this relies on the man not abandoning her in the future, but if you come …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:46 PM
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Yes, and I do so every day for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:44 PM
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Same here at the moment, I cook and clean for myself every day. although i do like the concept of asking this as a shit test to just see how she responds I agree the benefits are actually pretty minimal, especially when you are young, but her answers reveal a lot about what she is like as a person and whether her personality is suitable for married life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:43 PM
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Sure, and janitors aren't known for their competent airplane piloting abilities, but that's perfectly fine since nobody reasonable expects them to fly a plane.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:39 PM
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I intend to, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:38 PM
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both should maintain the home. Sure, both should help out, but not having someone directly responsible for the maintenance is inefficient. Economics 101 shows how everyone is better off through specialisation and trade, and unless two people are identical in every way the couple as a whole will be better off if one of them focuses completely on breadwinning (with any housework being things they do on the side) and one of them focuses completely on housework (with any breadwinning being things th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:38 PM
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Sure, I agree with that completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:32 PM
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He’s expecting a house maid. I'm expecting a lot more than just a house maid, but a parts of being a house maid is exactly what I expect from my future wife. The cleaning/cooking has to be done. Men who want “a cooker and a cleaner” should not expect “split bills.” Oh absolutely, I agree completely on that. I fully expect to pay for my wife's upkeep and our children. Any money I earn is for the family, any money she earns is hers. That's just how my culture works and I'm not complaining about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:27 PM
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Sure, both of them should be open to it, but there should be someone who is "responsible" for the cooking and cleaning, just like how in the corporate world many people may work on a project but there is a single person designated as "responsible" who gets the blame if things go wrong. Unless the woman chooses to take the role "responsible" for the breadwinning she should agree to take the role responsible for the "cooking/cleaning", so even if the man is open to helping out (which he should be,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:25 PM
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Hinge does it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 04:40 PM
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Coffee meet bagel for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:36 PM
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Imagine thinking neoliberal is an insult...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:35 AM
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Some apps have a race filter, so his profile wouldn't even get shown in many cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:27 AM
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Quite a few apps have race fields these days and some of them allow you to explicitly filter based upon it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:27 AM
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Ofc it is sarcasm. Smdh the people who need an /s everywhere...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:26 AM
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Every day I am thankful that in my system we still have arranged marriages and that once I'm ready for marriage all I have to do is ask my parents and they'll find a tradition woman of the same class as me who hasn't been mindkilled with the progressive virus within three months.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:52 PM
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Don't even have to opt out, just go to a different country and bring back a wife form there. Amazing how jealous this makes westoids who think what we're doing is exploitation when actually we're just finding someone who'll love us more than a westoid woman would.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:50 PM
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And also not true for violence Asians suffer, blacks hurt them far more than Asians hurt them. Should it be fine for Asians to warn their kids etc. about blacks being violent etc. Besides this discussion is all unimportant, what matters is the odds ratio of a person being violent period, regardless of who it is to, and this odds ratio is roughly the same for men vs women as it is for blacks vs whites, i.e. a man is just as dangerous compared to a woman that a black is to a white. The disparity y…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:02 AM
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And also intragender. In which case the men/women relative danger thing is also unimportant
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:59 AM
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Same as how most crime by black people is on black people. Most violence is also intragender and equally most violence against Asians is committed by black people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:53 AM
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Same with straight white man advantages. Cletus on a trailer park doesn't get the advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:19 AM
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Yes, white privilege is a very real thing, but being a straight white woman has even more advantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:11 AM
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By everyone I meant both men and women, not literally everyone, hence why I said on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 11:08 AM
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This needs to be the top response. Everybody is better off in a marriage on average and there is a ton of independent evidence for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 09:06 AM
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200 years? Still better than the standards of 100 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 02:51 PM
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Bottom up shifts happen due to top down changes. The reason smoking has gone down is because people are choosing to not smoke as much, but a lot of this is because of top down messaging and nudging.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 12:08 AM
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LMAO this exactly. And before people complain you can't redistribute sex there are ways to help people who are struggling without forcing anyone to sleep with anyone else, no different to how you can help struggling businesses without forcing people to buy from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 09:41 PM
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That is because there is often a degree of entitlement that men feel they are owed something sexually and romantically from women and society at large. No, men are less entitled than women. Men on average don't snap more than women do, it more that when men do snap they go more extreme and hurt others while a woman who snaps is likely to just retreat into herself. This propensity to violence is caused by testosterone and is biological, you can reduce it with social interventions, but you can't f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 09:39 PM
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You don't have to redistribute stuff to change the balance. Governments try and help small businesses vs big conglomerates, but they don't do this by forcing people to shop at small businesses. There are lots of alternative methods to help those at the bottom that involve no forcing of anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:24 PM
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Yes, they did, but this was generally after the initial few messages expressing interest, there were no pictures at the decision point of initial interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:42 AM
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I was talking about early OLD, not personals. Personals are a different beast crucially because they had no pictures. So people had to say yes/no to an initial meet based on minimal info about looks, looks had minimal impact in the initial yes/no on "do I even want to meet this person and see where it goes". Remove all photos from OLD and it will be nothing like what it is at the moment. People can still write what they look like but the response from the people who see it will be based on highe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:39 AM
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OLD before dating apps was very different. People wrote paragraphs upon paragraphs about themselves and others actually read them, rather than swiping based on some pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:34 AM
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You can't change yourself who you are attracted to, but societal expectation changes can very much change who people on average are attracted to, much like how people genually preferred slightly overweight women vs slightly underweight women 200 years ago vs now when it is the opposite. Current societal expectations especially encourage women to be attracted to qualities and traits that are long term bad. We should look at changing society to fix them. And yes, on a personal level to get more su…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:10 PM
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Are you saying that no man is better than any woman, or something else? It's quite clear that some men are better than others, so is it your contention that even the best man in the world is not above the lowest woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:44 PM
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No, not as a whole men aren't better, but some people are better than others and women prefer to marry someone better than them. Is your contention that some people aren't better than others or that women don't prefer to marry someone better than them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:38 PM
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In the big decisions women by and large prefer men take the lead but that's besides the true point I'm making: female hypergamy has been well established to be a real thing, there's nothing shameful in accepting it, it's like how everyone poops, there's nothing shameful in going to the toilet. Just say to your self 10 times: "Some people are better than others, women prefer men who are better than them, and that is fine".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:16 PM
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That is literally leading. It's not just in this area, but also in other non-courting area like taking the lead on finding houses when the couple is looking to buy one etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:11 PM
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Yep, agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 06:58 PM
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Yeah, I meant among the red pill cohort.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 06:46 PM
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Wut? We wash ourselves with water and a bidet, far superior to your toilet paper. See fertility statistics for the current progress on the replacement front. Births in the UK are already almost under 50% whitoid british.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 06:44 PM
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This here needs to be shouted from a rooftop to all men. Being insecure is perfectly fine. I too would be insecure if there was a fireworks factory next to my house, or the human equivalent of one in my romantic life (a high n count woman). And before the femcels here quip that I'll never have one of those women my response is that I wish that were the case, I would discard the high n count women myself if there was a foolproof way of doing so, alas in the real world I can just filter based on c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 06:40 PM
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No, the philosophy of the non "enjoy the decline" people is that nobody should have sex outside of committed relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 06:38 PM
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Your flair is wrong. Islam is the solution to westoid degeneracy and you can see it as we slowly replace you in your own homelands.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 06:33 PM
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Except that many of these dudes do indeed get the chance. They just pump and dump the high N women while having the tact to say they are rejecting them for some other reason. Most men care about N count (by a large margin), most men also have relationships eventually (by a large margin), mathematically the overlap has to be pretty big.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:49 PM
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Sure, you can never be certain, but you can take actions to reduce your risk. It's like how smoking is bad for you, but the majority of people who smoke a pack a day still never get lung cancer (80%+). Doesn't mean that we should ignore the health effects of smoking completely, same way we shouldn't ignore the negative effects of high n count women (shame on them).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 02:06 PM
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Studies, especially for things like these are far from accurate. Which is why you look at meta reviews which include many studies to reduce variance. They by and large all say the same thing. Who's been polled? I haven't, have you? A representative sample is all you need to get statistical power regardless of size of population. If you measure the height of 100 people you can get a pretty good idea of the average height of the population regardless of whether the population size is 1000 people o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:53 PM
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Nothing wrong with the sex inside relationship, "very little wrong" is a common phrase used to denote something is fine. Randos on a whim tells me about your attitude towards sex and relationships, and someone who freely sleeps around is someone who does not value sex highly and that is not the type of person who makes a good long term partner. There have been hundreds of posts with studies showing this, some still on the front page of the sub, you can check them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:29 PM
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Yep, that's actually fine. Very little wrong with sex inside a stable committed relationship, like you said, experience is good. What's not fine is sleeping with randoms on a whim.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:08 PM
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Don't most companies want someone with experience? Companies also don't want someone who job hops (high n count here). They would rather the experience came from one or two long term stable periods of employment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:49 PM
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Congratulations on the weight loss!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:47 PM
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Men could increase their number pretty easily via prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 07:25 AM
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Yes, men do benefit from therapy, but then benefit less from certain types, which is why they don't do it as much.II benefit from picking up both a penny and a 100 dollar bill on the ground. However I wouldn't do the former while I would do the latter. Therapy for men is like the penny, for women is like the 100 dollar bill (actual magnitudes exaggerated for explanatory effect).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:13 PM
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What is stopping men from supporting other men emotionally Again it boils down to effectiveness. The two genders.are different, women are just better at providing emotional support so men avoid getting support from men because the help likely wouldn't be as good. Same reason they get their hair cut at the barber and their cars services by a mechanic rather than the other way around. Naturally a full therapist is far better, but with them you lack the personal connection. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:01 PM
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we advice men to open up more to their friends and family, This gets us told that women are not your therapist or to seak therepy There is no single type of "therapy". CBT is very different from psychodynamic therapy. Different types of therapy work for different people and there is a gendered gap in which types work better for men/women. Unfortunately for men, almost all funding goes towards the types that work better for women, hence why lots of men don't go to therapy: because the types of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:23 PM
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And so your kids will be raised in a broken home. Because their parents would rather shout at each other than remarry. No. A marriage that isn't "happy" (note: not the same as being unhappy) isn't the same as being a broken home. I've seen plenty of kids being successfully raised in a household where the parents don't love each other any more in terms of hormones, but stay together because of the history and long term attachment and dedication to a goal. No different to how you can have a succes…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 11:06 AM
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Parents who stay together and have a very bad relationship also damages a child. The relationship has to be really really bad before it gets worse for the child than splitting up. With normal "bad" relationships (almost all non-abusive ones) it's better for the children if you stick together.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 11:29 AM
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why waste time? Don't care, had sex. That's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 03:30 PM
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Firstly, just being restricted to Indian women massively cuts down on the dating pool in the first place. Just like how having dwarfism means you'll be restricted to only dwarf women, which cuts your pool down by like 99% of the population. Secondly, this may not be so terrible if those Indian women are only dating Indian men, much like how gays are able to find other gay men without too much difficulty even our dwarf man can pair up if the dwarf women only want dwarf men since their competition…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 10:06 AM
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What is the median though? Even for women the average number of sexual partners is around 7, but the median is 2 or 3 I believe. In these sort of cases the median is a much better indicator than the mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 09:58 AM
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Just commenting to say I massively respect the effort you put in towards self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:05 PM
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LMAO. Men have higher variance so of course when you omit the lower end of the distribution the average of the higher end for men will be greater than the average of the higher end for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:44 AM
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From the Wikipedia page on the 2nd one on your list: Men's roles are defined by their clan, and these roles often are exclusively for men. Examples of these roles are the "awa" or shaman, and the "oko", the only person allowed to touch the remains of the dead, sing funeral songs, and prepare the food eaten at funerals. From the Wikipedia page on the 4th one your list (bolding mine): The Minangkabau (in short Minang) are also known for their devotion to Islam. A dominant majority of both males an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:13 PM
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Also, genocide is not a good thing? I agree, but we are talking about natural selection here, which is undoubtedly a good thing given that it lead to the creation of humans from single celled life. It's no different for how genes that cause diseases that make people die before they can have children get wiped out very quickly (and this is a good thing). Cultures were wiped out doesn't speak negatively about those cultures necessarily Agreed, but it point towards those cultures being too weak to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:55 PM
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There is a reason that those cultures were wiped out and the ones where sexuality was controlled thrived, no different to why there is a reason that people living in high up in the mountains of Nepal have genes that make them more efficient at processing oxygen from the air (because the ones without those genes left or didn't survive the climate with their poorly suited genetics).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 04:43 PM
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LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:50 AM
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Much better. PS: The soy and phytoestrogen thing was made up. I know. I say it because it's funny, not because it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:44 PM
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Sry, I don't listen to soy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:38 PM
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American women are raised to bend over backwards to please men. This is straight up delusional. Look at how women are raised pretty much anywhere outside the developed world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:40 AM
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Yes, but forced marriages are not a thing pretty much anywhere nowadays to any significant extent, and nobody gets married at 16 anymore these days, even in Afghanistan the average age of marriage for women is 22 (see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_age_at_first_marriage). Even the lowest of the low working class women in the places you mention get to freely pick who they marry and when they marry them. The reason they marry young is because they haven't been indoctrinat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 11:03 PM
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Yes, most of them don't. The point was to show it's possible for people to be very happy regardless of whether their culture is modern or traditional, money plays a very big role over culture, Saudi is happy, Jordan is not even though they have extremely similar cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:10 PM
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I come from a society that has this. Yes there are problems but the solutions to them aren't western solutions, they aren't "everyone do whatever as long as you get consent", Saudi Arabia has a crime rate 1/100 that of the USA, it is happier than the USA too in self reported happiness, both for men and women. The problem with these society isn't their culture, but their lack of money. Give them money and they work pretty damn well. Go think about that. See this for happiness source: https://en.m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:06 PM
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I'm not white btw, I think that makes a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:14 PM
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Ok, that is very very weird. Are you sure that in the BMI section the lines on the camera view line up like this on your eyes: https://www.sherpapieces.eu/overview/userfiles/media/sherpapieces.eu/hownormalami-meisje-wenkbrauwen.jpg ? If so then yes this AI doesn't work well for your face, but the 4 different models (beauty,age,gender,BMI) are supposed to be completely independent and the fact that all 4 failed drastically on you still makes me suspicious that it isn't recognising your face prope…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:46 PM
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Yeah, I think it isn't recognising your face, a 3/10 is literally deformities territory. Try on a different device and see if that gives a number more in line with your expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:28 PM
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A 3? I don't even think the AI ever goes that low unless you have deformities. I think it's more likely that it's not recognising your face. In the BMI section do the vertical dashes line up with the portion of your face just above your eyes and below you eyebrows? If not then it isn't recognising your face, try using a different device.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:25 PM
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The point is not full accuracy but determining whether high attractiveness people still struggle on dating apps (a very restricted but growing subset of dating). If lots of people who struggle with dating still score highly with the AI (remember, it's numbers are average out over 10s of thousands of real people who've used this for a myriad of reasons) it means that even highly attractive people have difficulties with OLD, the AI itself could have lots of noise, but as long as the people with lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:09 PM
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Are you sure it recognised your face, was there a rectangle around it that stayed centered on your face even as you moved it around? I had that issue on my phone where it didn't centre on my face and was estimating my BMI as 33 (so making me 35kg heavier than I really am...). When I changed to my laptop the issue was fixed immediately (another way of testing this is to make sure that the lines denoting the area above your eyes/below eyebrows for the BMI test is actually centered where it should …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:18 PM
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And the time tested solution to this that society had was for your parents to vet him and his history (and vice versa) before agreeing to a legal ceremony designed to protect your rights in case of maltreatment before even allowing that man to be alone with you. It worked pretty well apart from a minority of cases with bad outcomes (no different to the current system) but people decided to drop that and now they have to suffer the consequences. You and your people have brought this upon yourself…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:38 PM
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I have had this happen to me by a woman who flaked literally 10 minutes before our meeting. And it wasn't like she wasn't interested either, we rearranged and everything went fine from there. It just left me very pissed off that she cancelled with literally less than a quarter of an hour's notice because she "just wasn't feeling it" (her words, not mine) at that moment and didn't want to leave her home.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:53 PM
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Saudi Arabia, right now. That is a tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:56 PM
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BASED
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:32 PM
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As someone who comes from that system it's better than the shit you've settled on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 10:01 PM
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Couples who didn’t practice premarital cohabitation are more likely to have have lower satisfaction levels First I'm hearing of this. Got a source? I've actually heard the opposite a fair bit, first hit from Google Scholar search of "premarital cohabitation and satisfaction levels": https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5956907/ Those who cohabited before engagement (43.1%) reported lower marital satisfaction, dedication, and confidence as well as more negative communication and greater p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:50 AM
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Lol no, just say "I want a LTR partner with fewer than 3 pervious partners" and you will get attacked for this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:44 AM
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Because the men know it's futile in many cases so they don't attempt it. Since they only attempt it in cases where they know they have a good chance of succeeding of course the rate of success in the cases where they ask for it is high. We see very few Atlantic Ocean crossings on wooden rafts compared to modern ships, but this isn't because fewer wooden raft people want to cross the ocean, rather it is because the wooden raft people know they can't do it safely unless they have the best wooden r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 02:28 AM
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"Nah theres a reason women would be way more careful of who they slept with if there was a body count displayed on their head 24/7." https://old.reddit.com/r/confessions/comments/vu2w50/im_embarrassed_of_how_much_of_a_slut_i_became/ifblb31?context=8 Lmao, this dude generated so much seethe on normie reddit with that comment he was downvoted to -1000 for something that is pretty undeniably true...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:51 PM
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In my experience people are deep. Correct. 2 minutes doesn't teach you everything about them, or even anything close to it, but it's enough to give you a superficial high level idea about what they are like and whether you might be compatible with them long term enough to spend a hour or two of your time going on a date with them. It's still leagues better than what you can do with a few pictures and a paragraph (if that) of text. I suspect most people would have a better accuracy in judging who…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:00 PM
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I'm sorry too...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 07:30 PM
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No, that would be nothing like it. I'm not that kind of storyteller. It's really something that has to be experienced, the tone of voice etc. that is impossible to put into a single picture. Plus toilet humour is not my thing. Here's an example by the great Peter Ustinov: 1 min 30 sec: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptT4eFTFwBo (this is all non-scripted and in the moment). I'm nowhere near as good as him but this just gives you an example of what it is possible to do with just words and tone of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 07:18 PM
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I like to think of myself as a storyteller. Someone who is witty and engaging, a raconteur if you will. You can't put that into a photo but 2 minutes of talking is easily enough to give people an idea of my sense of humour etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 07:10 PM
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Yep, you can tell far more about personality with a 2 min advertisement than some pictures, it's not the whole personality, but it's enough to give you a good general idea. Plus 2 minutes of 2 way conversation is even better. It's not like you have to instantly say yes to sex based on the 2 minutes snapshot, if you're piqued then you talk with them in real time, then have a date etc, 2 minutes of talking is absolutely enough to decide if you want to talk with a person more fully and learn more a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 06:27 PM
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Really? I can come up with a decent idea of someone's personality within 2 minutes of talking to them, and I don't think I'm an outlier on this. Granted 2 minutes is a lot more than the 2 seconds it takes to swipe, but still...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 06:02 PM
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But you can't tell body language through static pictures that have been edited to look attractive either. You need in person meets to accurately judge that what you saw in pictures wasn't staged etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 06:00 PM
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You don't just hear their voice saying random stuff, you hear them talk about what they like, who they are as a person etc., you can work out a lot about someone's personality in 2 minutes of them talking, even if you play everything they say through a robotic vocaliser. The voice tells you very litter, what they say tells you a lot about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 05:59 PM
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I'm not talking about all men, I'm talking about the majority of men, same as when we say "we voted for the Republicans, so now there is a Republican president", I don't mean everyone voted republican, I meant the majority, and the majority absolutely cares about n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:19 AM
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Just because we don't talk about it outside of places like this doesn't mean we don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:31 PM
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True. However when we had male favouring hypocrisy the feminists would not shut up about it until they were satisfied, I see no reason to do the same here, on pure "taste of your own medicine" grounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 02:48 PM
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I already do, doesn't mean the hypocrisy isn't there or that we shouldn't call it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 02:28 PM
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The thing we are discussing here is not the incompatibility, but the hypocrisy of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:30 AM
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Men get divorce thrust upon them, women most affected.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:52 AM
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There is more stigma, but all the normal indications of marital happiness are just as good for Asian vs non-Asian wife marraiges.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:29 AM
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If they get adopted out. For as long as the child stays in foster care, the parents are obligated to pay child support. And remember, older children (especially after 2-3 years of age) are much much harder to get adopted. Here is an NPR article about this situation with examples, so you can see it happens in real life: https://www.npr.org/2021/12/27/1049811327/states-send-kids-to-foster-care-and-their-parents-the-bill-often-one-too-big-to-
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:10 PM
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Yes, you can surrender them, but after a point (I think a month) you become liable to pay child support to the state until the child turns 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:44 PM
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More money in the healthcare system, more hospitals with newer technology that can treat patients better etc. The US spends a bigger percentage of its GDP on healthcare, plus they have more GDP per capita to start with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:37 AM
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Yes, Saudi Arabia is pro-female, in that it caters to female needs over male needs. There is no large pro-male society in the world right now (for good reason).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:23 AM
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I do not understand how treating adult women like children is pro-female. By giving them extra protections not afforded to men. To use the titanic example, it makes good sense to put children on the boat before men, since children have more of their life ahead of them (consider a case of a 7yo boy vs 90yo man, almost everyone will agree the place should go to the 7yo boy). Now treating women just like children means they also get to go on the boat and get their life saved. That's very clearly pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:17 AM
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TIL patriarchal societies are pro-female Yes, pretty much every single modern society is pro-female and caters to female needs over male needs, even Saudi Arabia (as it should be, societies that preferentially cater to male needs die out pretty quickly). Patriarchy does not mean women are mistreated, it's a statement about who makes the decisions at the top, nothing more. The UK wasn't a terrible place for men to live when Theresa May was prime minister, even though she was the most powerful per…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:11 AM
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raped and stoned for adultery She was sentenced by a tribal court that has no real powers outside it's jurisdiction. These sort of things happen in the backward rural areas but as soon as the actual government gets wind of them they normally forcefully take the girl away from the hands of the tribal elders and try her under the actual civil code, where nobody gets executed for adultery. Same for blasphemy laws by the way. The national level blasphemy laws are a way of saving people's lives by re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:06 AM
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Except that with good insurance (which 85% of people have some sort of) the broken bone is not bankruptcy, it's just as free as the other country, but with a smaller waiting list, remember we're talking about everyone except the bottom 20% here. The statistic I referenced explicitly included healthcare costs, so that is all covered.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 09:50 AM
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Don't know, probably something to do with lack of an entrenched social upper class (so no group of people at the top who are passing their high wealth to their children) which is something both Denmark and Sweden have, but as I said I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:56 PM
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The r/MensLib subreddit is a good resource (not to be confused with the men’s rights subreddit.) Anyone who looks at MensLib and thinks what they are doing is healthy needs to have their heads looked at. I'm actually serious, that place is one of the most screwed up subbreddits on this site when you look at the mental state of the people who post there. But I can get behind allocating additional resources to fund men’s mental health / wellness Men respond to different sorts of therapy than women…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:32 PM
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don't represent even the 5% of the population 5%? Trans people make up around 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:59 PM
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You can help men falling behind without hurting women, e.g. fund social programs teaching them what actually attracts women and how to achieve that, funding plastic surgery for extremely bad looking men etc. Because it’s not an apt comparison. It’s “off limits” to enforce equal access to women because women are people and not resources to be distributed. Jobs are also not resources to be distributed, and we don't force employers to hire people they don't want, but we still do a lot to help the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:53 PM
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See here (also shows how USA is higher on this than even places like Luxembourg): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposable_household_and_per_capita_income The list below represents a national accounts derived indicator based on adjusted gross income, which is defined as "the balance of primary incomes of an institutional unit or sector by adding all current transfers, except social transfers in kind, receivable by that unit or sector and subtracting all current transfers, except social transfers…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:47 PM
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Total discretionary spending. Life expectancy, average house size in sqm etc. (remember to remove bottom 20%).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:55 PM
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The Byzantine empire was not exactly the Western Roman empire. The degeneracy that led to the collapse of the West was not repeated in the East which for 100+ years before the collapse of the west had basically started functioning as a separate entity with different power centres, different armies etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:27 PM
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True, but it is still very much there and still pretty damn deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:24 PM
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We created and exported plenty of culture in the 1600s when the average age of marriage was late 20's (yeaaaah I'm sure 26-28yo men and women were all virgins....). The average age at marriage in many Islamic countries like Tunisia and Morocco is in the late 20s and yet I would bet good money the majority of men and women are virgins on their wedding night. The culture is different enough that it really isn't an issue, same is possible for 1600s England etc. because as they say, the past is fore…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:23 PM
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Culture does not disappear within a few generations, even Mao was not able to eradicate Chinese culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:19 PM
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Iran has a proud history and long standing culture. Just because it hasn't influenced the West doesn't mean the culture isn't there (same with China, it has a very very deep and rich culture that is lost on almost all westerners).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:18 PM
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Funnily enough Denmark and Sweden have higher wealth inequality than the USA. Turns out that high taxes make it nigh impossible to become wealthy through hard work alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:15 PM
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LMAO no, if you are not in the bottom 20% you will have a far far better life in the US than most Western European countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:14 PM
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Um, yes? Back when sleeping around outside of wedlock wasn't normalised regulating marriage was the same as regulating sex, and governments have regulated marriage since we've had governments. Marriage regulation is actually one of the main examples I'd give for why regulation in general can be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 11:13 PM
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The USA managed without that "freedom" for a long long time while still being thought of as free. There is no freedom to cut down trees on public property or play loud music at midnight in a residential area, but that does not mean society is not free without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:50 PM
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Well, the USA managed to strongly discourage sex for 200 years after it's founding on that same principle, no reason why "freedom" is incompatible with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:48 PM
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Except that the latter is expensive, while the former isn't if done properly. And it's not like it has a low likelihood of succeeding, it's the status quo in the whole Muslim world, the whole Indian Subcontinent, Israel, large parts of South East Asia etc. You need a large culture shift yes, but that is doable, and the shift is no larger than the one that made sex outside of commited relationships OK in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:00 PM
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Congratulations to your brother!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:47 PM
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Yes, I agree, hence why we should societally strongly discourage sex before people are in a stable place. Plenty of other countries from many varied backgrounds successfully do it, so it's not like it's not possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:43 PM
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Can't believe I'm agreeing with Lillth...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:31 PM
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Yes, being in a financially stable place before having sex is generally a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:30 PM
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Both your points can be true at the same time. Men just care less about abortion either way than women so most of the active anti-abortion people are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:29 PM
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Plenty of lower class women drink and smoke when pregnant because they don't believe it will happen to them. They drink when they don't want it but aren't able to get rid of it. To force a miscarriage with certainly the amount of alcohol you would need would kill you first. Plus I'm talking about a case where a woman both drinks because she likes it (her body, her choice) and wants the baby (her body, her choice). Is this specific woman doing anything wrong here?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 03:50 PM
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I don't see the Uighurs in their concentration camps, but I know they are still suffering and I empathise with them, pictures aren't necessary. Why do you care what I choose to do with my womb? Because when you are pregnant there is someone else who has no voice of their own also involved with that womb. I have nothing against you getting rid of your womb when you're not pregnant or anything else, but as soon as you add another body that can't defend itself or anything the calculus changes and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 03:32 PM
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Sure. Why do you care about my unborn fetus that can’t feel anything? Because I believe it is human and that after 12ish weeks it can feel pain (no different than the fact I care for people in Africa suffering and donate money, or the Uighurs in China suffering etc.). This has been validated by science. Why? How is it effecting your life in anyway? Becuase like most humans I don't like seeing others in pain. Their suffering hurts me too indirectly by me knowing they are suffering which stops me …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 03:10 PM
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Fathers don’t get a right because they’re not forced to carry a child 9 months and give childbirth. Why? Unless you agree with the alcohol abusing mother doing nothing wrong, "my body, my choice" does not apply, so why does the right only come from carrying the child and giving childbirth? You can look at surrogacy prices and they are roughly $40,000 which gives us an idea of what the "cost" of carrying a child + giving birth are. The father generally will commit $40,000+ of time/money to their …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 03:04 PM
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It has an effect on the life of the fetus, and if you're only concerned about living people it has an effect on the life of the father. Would you be fine with abortion requiring consent from the father too?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 02:02 PM
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That is the main point, some people believe it's not a clump of cells after 6 weeks, what about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:37 PM
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Well, that is where the big difference comes doesn't it. If you believe that the fetus is more than a clump of cells then it suddenly affects people who aren't you, so "my body, my choice" fails to apply unless you agree it also applies in the alcohol case.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:08 PM
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No, the point is to do with whether "my body, my choice" is a valid argument. If a woman chooses to both drink to excess (her body, her choice) and keep the child (her body, her choice) and the child ends up with FASD has she done anything wrong? It's about the phrase, not abortion as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:50 PM
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Only 2% of rape accusations lead to a conviction. For what we know, false accusations could make up 98% of all reports.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:43 PM
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No, but CPS will take your child away if you deliberately drink to excess and the baby shows the hallmarks of FASD when it is born. See here: https://betterhelpaddictioncare.com/addiction/will-my-baby-be-taken-away-from-me-at-the-hospital/ for source of claim that CPS will take the child away. Plus, we're not talking about the law of the land here, but the moral correctness of "my body, my choice".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:02 PM
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The point is not that, the point is whether "my body, my choice" still applies in case where a woman wants a child but also wants to drink as much as she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 11:38 AM
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Do you seriously believe that if instead of these men, we had their wives on the court they would rule any differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:45 AM
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Controlling access to BC in some form is up next. Soon sister inshallah.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:42 AM
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9 men were on the court that made this law. The court that overturned it was 6 men and 3 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:33 AM
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My Body, My Choice? Pro abortion people: if it's "my body, my choice" is it 100% OK for a woman to drink to excess while she is pregnant and give birth to someone with fetal alcohol syndrome? Because that fetus was just a parasite before it was born, wasn't it? And so since it was just a parasite when she was drinking so much it shouldn't have any influence on the woman's decisions if she doesn't want it to. Also she certainly shouldn't be expected to change the way she wants to live on account …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:17 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:56 AM
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Yeah, these "threats" make me like the repeal even more. To Women: Please carry them out, I beg of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:54 AM
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God is forgiving, however men are not God.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:52 AM
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Yes, that has nothing to do with abortion though, that is poverty. The modern USA has a lot of slack to take care of new unwanted by the mother kids, giving them the same cross section of quality of life that kids currently have, that is just a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:58 PM
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Except that in modern America, no unwanted by mother kids are left starving. Adoption waiting lists are huge, to the point that even babies with disabilities are getting adopted with ease. This shortage has gotten so bad desperate couples are paying fertile women 10s of thousands of dollars just to have a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:43 PM
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Men already get screened for those things, part of the shorter lifespan is because we only have 1 X chromosome so don't get the redundancy from having a second backup for when things go wrong in the first one (which is why 30x more men are colourblind than women). Short of culling old women or otherwise privileging men, there is no way we're going to see equal life expectancy. I'm not asking for biological equality in this sphere because it's stupid, same as you asking for men to get their genit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:18 PM
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Men also die a few years younger than women. Should we start randomly culling old ladies so that the life expectancy is equalised?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:02 PM
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Plenty of groups have tried, but gotten attacked by feminists et. al. and sabotaged, which is the point. Now your lot is also slowly losing access to abortion, and are getting your status levelled with ours. Equality is a bitch, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:49 PM
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That seems to be another women's problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:44 PM
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I personally wouldn't be scared off, but in our society getting labelled "anti-woman" means you lose all credibility with the masses (sad, but it is what it is), and so your protests go nowhere, which is exactly what happened. You can't first sabotage us and then blame us for failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:36 PM
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And why do you want to punish women for your inability to get a simple piece of legislation drafted? Men have been trying to get this done for decades, however it always gets attacked by the women. Plus in 50 years of RvW the left never managed to get a simple piece of legislation drafted and passed conferring abortion rights, they left it all to RvW and then Casey. Why weren't they able to get a single piece of legislation passed if that was all it took?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:28 PM
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Men have, but when we do this our protests get attacked as being "anti-woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:26 PM
10

No different than the problem of men having to pay child support which can easily be solved by the strokes of a pen in some politican's office.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:20 PM
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Mens reproductive abilities end when they have sex. That’s their problem And women's bodies sometimes swell up and create another human when they have sex. That's their problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:12 PM
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Then they get a kid. Actions have consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:25 PM
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Eh, I've gotten used to it now. They don't have any good replies to my argument so they attack my character.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:18 PM
2

Patriarchies always get what they ask for, which is less clam, more sausage. Funnily enough Afghanistan has one of the most equal male/female ratios in the world (since the men are more likely to die young). The sausage dies off more, so if you stay alive you basically get a woman for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:36 PM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:25 PM
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Happier after you control for wealth, Norway is extremely wealthy, according to self reported happiness Saudi Arabia is happier than Italy and Brazil happier than Portugal. Besides, their elevated happiness scores are a consequence of the antidepressant binge they are on, do you seriously believe a place like Norway with 6 hours of daily sunlight in winters can be happy without chemicals? Antidepressents are cheap btw, especially after you account for the fact that drug prices are orders of magn…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:21 PM
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Correct, they generally are happier and have fewer mental health issues (even after correcting for underreporting), even though we are poorer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:21 PM
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What 60 year old grandma does has no bearing on the state of the marketplace for 16-29 year olds. What are the stats for that group?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:30 PM
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They don't treat them in the same way as western women expect to be treated so she thinks it automatically means "treating them like crap", which is absolutely not the case. I'm (non-western) not going to treat my future wife as an equal, but will take extremely good care of her, putting her needs before mine. According to western women this means I'll be treating her like crap. To such women I have nothing more to say than "fuck off".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:27 PM
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Yes, it's not about the actual reality on the ground, it's about the symbolism. Roe v Wade was a symbol of the liberals saying "we are in charge, our rules" that has now been torn down, it's like removing the flag of the enemy from a building you've conquered, changing the flag is just a symbolic action that does not have any effect on the ground, but it is still an insult to the enemy. That's worth the small number of women who we are going to lose over this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:24 PM
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Never having sex again unless the men proves that he cares about me, can provide financially, mentally, physically and more. I will only have unprotected sex with a man that buys me a house, car and can provide good schools for my kids + make me a SAHM. Your terms are acceptable. Now if only all the other women in society started behaving the same way...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:19 PM
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Exactly, very little will actually change, it's mostly symbolic. I'm pro abortion but support this because liberals absolutely needed a massive slap across the face, which they just got. Long may the slaps continue (affirmative action next).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:12 PM
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Yeah, those 100k kids have mental problems from being left too long in the system or otherwise. There is a reason people don't want to adopt them. However for healthy, normal babies (which is what women give birth to the vast majority of the time) there are waiting lists so supply is less than demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:53 AM
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Actually it is... White babies are so so in demand right now from couples who left it too late it's unreal. But quite a few are now settling for black babies because the alternative is a 5+ year wait list or adopting an older child with a ton of mental issues (there is a reason that older child hadn't already been adopted by someone else).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:49 AM
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I feel sorry for the child. Having such a piece of shit as your mother is not going to be good for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:34 AM
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Difference is that the breast cancer can't grow into a full human.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:23 AM
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Stop, stop, I can only get so hard!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:19 AM
1

Word of advice: You look better with long hair (I can say this without even seeing you because pretty much all women look better with long hair).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:18 AM
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Fighting dumb with dumb. I like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:15 AM
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Funnily enough there is a huge baby shortage right now and adoption waiting lists are huge.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:10 AM
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You pay taxes for the social safety net, yet if you have more than £16,000 in assets you're not eligible for a huge number of benefits. Hence you pay that money for nothing, and before you say "what if I lost everything", you can replicate the payout of social security by buying insurance for the "what if I lost everything" case a lot cheaper than the amount you pay towards social security in taxes if you earn more than roughly £50,000.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:14 AM
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The seethe from the left/women on PPD right now is so strong I can feel it through the computer screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:11 AM
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Congratulations!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:10 AM
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He is having a healthy human response to seeing his enemies getting smote, there is nothing wrong with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:08 AM
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Oh yes, the seethe generated by this event is going to fuel me for a long long time. P.S. think of all the downvotes you're getting as a mark of honour, imagine the downvoter reeing as well when the click that arrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:06 AM
2

I'd be careful, legacy women are deprecated, trans women are all the rage right now. You don't want to be left a bagholder.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:18 PM
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A fair amount of the original slaves were Igbo: slaves weren't selected for stupidity, but were prisoners of war etc. (much like how Jews disproportionately dying during the holocaust doesn't mean they are stupid), in fact in modern America there is a strong correlation for black people (even though with only slave ancestry) between their socioeconomic status and their %age Igbo genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 09:07 PM
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I doubt racists can tell the difference between Nigerian blacks and non-Nigerian blacks, they all treat them equally badly. Nigeria is an outlier, because a big part of the Nigerian immigrants are Igbo, a black ethnic subgroup with an average estimated IQ of 110, well above the native whites. They are basically the Ashkenazi Jews of Africa in terms of intelligence. They are successful because they are highly selected, other blacks are usually just minimally diversity visa winners (they at least …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:23 PM
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A perfect example of “no one is trying to take your guns”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 09:47 AM
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Those children, raised in the US, fail just as hard as their ethnic peers who were also born here. No they dont. Yes, they are still pretty damn successful. You should see the huge percentage of Affirmative Action admits to Ivy leagues that are the children of immigrants born and raised in the US. People like Tariq Nasheed actually sperg out over this on Twitter all the time. See this for source: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/23780231211001971 Controlling for age, education, and disab…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 09:03 AM
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Finance. Jane Street starting salaries including bonus are over 400k, same for Citadel etc. (but their working culture is shit). You need to be a maths genius to get the job though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:38 AM
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Yes, that is because America is highly selective with who it takes. Pakistani Americans do much better than White Americans, but British Pakistani do much worse than white British. This isn't because the US is some multicultural utopia while the UK is a racist hellhole, it's just that if you want to come to the US from Pakistan you need to be in the top few % of society, while that is not true if you want to go to the UK. It's no surprise that the top few % of Pakistan does better than the avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:33 AM
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1) men are victims of crime and physical violence more often than women. This needs to be repeated 100x times. As a non-violent man I don't care who's assulting me, a man, a woman or aliens from Omicron Persei 8, I'm getting assaulted all the same. Same for women, it's not attacker demographics that are important if you're looking at the big picture, but victim demographics, and men are doing worse on that front by a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:20 PM
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Men should send themselves to Thailand for a week just to get a validation hit. No, women doing this shits up the market. Men doing this would just shit up the market in Thailand. They are bad, but you shouldn't be like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:41 AM
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I wish you a Sunday as lovely as you. LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:31 PM
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Suppose I give you the opportunity to buy a Gucci $3000 bag for $100. Only caveat is the bag is torn, damaged, soiled and unrepairable. If you buy the bag you aren't "winning", you haven't saved $2900 but have just paid $100 for junk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:30 PM
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Can you elaborate what exactly do you find misandrist? Pretty much all of it barring some historical facts (and even some modern day "facts" like the pay gap are false). You won't be able to convince me feminism is good or even neutral, I'm too far gone for that and that conversation will be unproductive. How does it reward patriarchy and what definition do you use in thic context? I would say a feminist definition of patriarchy would be "the men at the top who control society and subjugate wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:48 AM
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I don't think core beliefs of feminism are misandrist. Admitting there is/was patriarchy and women weren't treated as equals != being a misandrist. There is more to feminism than just admitting what existed in the past. That is the misandrist bit. Patriarchy harms everyone, men having some benefits here and there still suffer under it. Women sleeping around with highly attractive guys while normal ones go without anything is literally rewarding the "patriarchy" if you use the strict definition o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:30 AM
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I'm not the one who blocked you, I agree fuck reddit. Men also used to shit in the middle of the pathways, and that was also a fact of life; and what has changed is the invention of a fucking toilet, not biology Correct, however men aren't changing something as fundamental as our sex drive without shifting our biology. People respond to incentives, men stopped shitting in the middle of the street because something better (shitting in a toilet) became available and shitting in the streets was inf…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 02:28 PM
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And yet it is what gets the most women. Men think with their dicks and that is a fact of life that won't change until we can change our biology. If women want male behaviour to change, they need to change what they reward with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:19 AM
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Ok, here is another example using people's bodies: if there is a war going on and you are told to shelter in the basement because an air raid is happening but you then go outside for no good reason and get a bomb dropped on you then you are an absolute moron and this needs to be pointed out. The person who dropped the bomb is 100% responsible for your death, but you are an absolute idiot for not heeding the air raid warning and your stupidity needs to be pointed out to dissuade others from throw…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:28 PM
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You just tried to position a hypothetical against reality. Can women buy guns and shoot their male partners? Technically, yes. Do they? Not in numbers approaching those seen when we're talking about men murdering us. If we're worried about absolute rates of murder then we can look at the data: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1013128/Domestic_homicides_and_suspected_victim_suicides_during_the_Covid-19_Pandemic_2020-2021.pdf n total, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:17 PM
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These days women are just as much of a potential threat to men as men are to women. As they say "God created man, and Sam Colt made them equal". Plus if women are particularly concerned about risk from their partners they should avoid the dangerous types and go for the stable boring types instead, but we see the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:54 PM
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I know, it's just another day on The Internet (TM).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:11 PM
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No, getting something from someone does not mean they have to lose something. If I "get" to play video games with my friend when he comes online it doesn't mean he loses anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:00 PM
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By getting them into bed and going through the motions for it etc. You "get" sex in the same way you "get" a singing lesson from a teacher etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:15 AM
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You are doing the honourable thing by going this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:06 AM
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LMAO this, If I started treating my female friends the same way as I treat my male friends I would very soon not have many female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:05 AM
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You don't buy a person when having sex either. And, no the terminology that you "get" a massage is widespread and accepted and when we say you "get" sex it is implied in the same way that one "gets" a massage. Same with a ton of other things: If you are picked to come onto the field during a football match you "get" to play, that is also a process, an activity and not a tangible result either, same way as how you "get" to enter the first class lounge if you pay a lot for your flight tickets. I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:02 AM
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The biggest concern of all of this is one single word - "get". You don't "get" sex from someone, This is semantic bullshit. According to your definition it wouldn't be possible to "get" a massage either since that is also a process, an activity and not a tangible result either. Cut the BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:51 AM
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The type of personality such a woman has is not conductive to successful LTRs, well unless she is a high decoupler, but those women are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 11:13 PM
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Good for fun, but not much else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:59 PM
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In fact, 2020 statistics have shown that men generally remarry faster, and more often than women do after a divorce, or the death of a spouse. That could just mean that divorced/widowed men have higher value than divorced/widowed women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:45 PM
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Even better to just import a wife from back home. You get the other advantages of the west without having a nagging, unsatisfiable, western woman as your life "partner".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:02 PM
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You don't have to force women to sleep with men they don't want to make the situation better, much like how you can fix the issues with capitalism without forcing employers to hire workers they don't want. A lot of the same things that go towards fixing the latter work for the former too, but progs blow a lid if you suggest applying their own suggestions for the latter to the former (e.g. name and shame for companies that pay poorly vs name and shame for women that mistreat men).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:30 PM
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Sure, that is consistency and I applaud you for it. I'm not blaming you but the general "left wing progressive memeplex" which absolutely maintains that men aren't entitled to intimacy etc. while at the same time blames "the system" for creating a situation where graduates can't find jobs matching their inflated salary expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:28 PM
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Not just about that, many men (who have experienced harassment so they know what it is like), would gladly take being harassed occasionally if it meant there were a ton of women willing to sleep with them at the drop of a hat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:13 PM
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And I'm telling you from personal experience that plain-looking women who are slim/fit have more options than cute/pretty women who are fat/obese. This is true, because being obese is seen as a moral failing while being ugly in the face isn't so men (who don't want to lose status) don't wish to be seen with someone who's obese but are fine being seen with someone with an average face.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:11 PM
2

Absolutely based.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:09 PM
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Nobody owes you a job, therefore not being able to find one that pays you enough to match your expectations isn't "poor treatment". And yet we still see tons of anguish each day posted on Reddit about how kids took on a ton of debt and can't find a suitable job and instead of telling OP to stop complaining, people in the comments are supportive and blaming "capitalism" etc. Hypocrisy much?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:05 PM
2

Forced marriages are extremely rare these days even in totally rural parts of many third world countries. Whenever one of them is discovered it makes the local news so it seems like they still happen (they weren't newsworthy 30 years ago), but they are really rare overall (much like how lightning striking people is rare, but makes the news if it happens).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:02 PM
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At the moment it doesn't guarantee anything, because matching has no costs so it always makes sense to say "yes" rather than "no". Remember the person on the other end also pays $1 so unless both of you believe the match is going to lead to something there is no reason to swipe right, so your quality improves both ways. Plus everyone has fewer matches so there less chance the person you matche with will not interact with you in favour of someone else. Traditional matchmakers still exist and they…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:31 PM
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Sure, it worked for you. But statistically it doesn't work. People also win the lottery (buying that ticket was also probably the single best decision of their lives) but that doesn't mean playing the lottery is a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:02 PM
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LMAO this exactly. We have good models for how human bonding works and the "true love" phase very rarely lasts longer than 2 years (less than 10% frequency). After that the bonds are sustained by attachment and history together, even for 90+% of the people who really believed it was "true love" when they got together. If you're going to reach the attachment phase anyways it's far better to do it with someone who's statistically likely to be a good fit for you than someone your hormones gave you …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:50 PM
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Yes, parents do absolutely matter. Divorce is roughly 50-70% heritable and it is genetically linked. As your parents child you got genes from them and if they got divorced, chances are they had the "high divorce risk" genes and some of them would have been passed down to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:46 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:45 PM
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Yes, and they are all very highly correlated, to the point that there is only one real factor (which psychometricians denote g0). If spatial and musical intelligence were completely different things, you'd expect them to be orthogonal in the population; knowing someone is high spatial intelligence should tell you nothing about their musical intelligence, but in real life it's the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:24 AM
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I’ve started to notice that to certain extent, the smarter and more educated the man is, the harder it is for him to meet women. This is a well known result in sociology. I remember reading a study saying something like 1/3rd of MIT grad students were virgins...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:22 AM
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Why not? This is actually the model the UK has for estate agents when people list their house with them for sale. Estate agents don't get paid per month for listing a house (OLD premium accounts) or per person they show the house to (OLD showing your profile to more people), they only get paid when the house is sold (OLD getting a match). The issue with paying for listing is that the estate agent has an incentive to value your house higher than it really is, which will make you more likely to us…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:21 AM
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Well, it'll get rid of the women who are just looking for validation but that is a good thing. KYCs really not that difficult, I've gone through it with multiple exchanges. It's 10 minutes of effort followed by a few hours of waiting while a human reviews the stuff you've submitted. If someone isn't willing to do 10 mins of effort to meet people of the other gender then they aren't really that interested and them not being on the app improves the state of the app market for everyone (I would rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:27 PM
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It doesn't matter if the user experience is terrible, because plenty of men are always going to be willing to pay the price. Here is one easy fix to the issue: Require KYC (Know Your Customer) verification for online dating in the exact same way it is required if you want to trade fiat for crypto on an exchange. This is basically just a requirement that all people using the app must verify their identity and address before they are allowed to join. Plus they have to take a photo of their face ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:37 PM
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Nah, not even necessary. Just fine them the same amount a man would have to pay child support and let them pay off the fine over 18 years, just like the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:32 PM
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No, an abortion is not enough consequences. If murder was punished with a $100 fine then committing murder would still come with consequences but it wouldn't be proportionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:11 PM
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Funnily enough I've found that women take on the politics of whoever they're dating at the time. I've certainly converted more than one girl into a non-liberal during my time by just talking to her about how I view the world. When they're attracted to you you really can do anything!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:25 PM
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Murder has been around a long time. But there is a lot less of it now than in the 1600s precisely because we've gotten better at identifying and punishing the perpetrators. They'll be having a lot less risky sex; of course there will still be some of it but much less than in current days. Second, you don't even care about the kids. You just care about women no longer having sex with commitment. Yes, and? I believe people not sleeping around without commitment is already an improvement for its ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:41 PM
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I don't personally care about abortion either (somewhat pro it being legal); but I do like seeing lefties and feminists seethe so I'm hoping RvW gets repealed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:29 PM
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No, they won't. They empirically do cut down on sex when they can't abort. Look at rates of promiscuity in even developed countries where abortion is more taboo compared to countries infected with the western mind virus. When you raise the risks of something people do it less and its no different here. The world is already packed with traumatized children, children waiting for adoption, children waiting in foster care. Ah yes, that's why there is a multi year long adoption waiting list in the US…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:08 PM
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You think (hope) that making abortion illegal will make undesirable men women don't want to fuck more attractive, so women will somehow not opt to fuck sexy bad boy Chads for casual sex. And you think that is worth bringing traumatized children into the world for! Yes, that is one way of putting it. I don't think there will be too many traumatised children because women will massively cut down on sex with those who they don't believe will provide for a child. It's a completely transparent take. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 12:21 PM
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Wtf do you think people did before abortion was legal? Cavewomen weren't fucking Cavechads?? People fuck the brains out of each other whether abortion is legal or not. They were doing it much less; which is the point. People still murder others even though it is illegal. Doesn't mean we should make murder legal since that would make the amount of killings go way up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 12:10 PM
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Yes. Eventually the women will stop sleeping around with men who aren't going to commit/are unable to provide because of that risk so these children will stop being conceived mostly. A small (temporary) increase in the number of adults with mental health issues is worth the improved gender dynamics that an abortion ban will bring.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 12:04 PM
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Still better. This way when women find that guy they are willing to have children with and he is willing to have children with her the woman's n count will be lower which is good. I'm pro abortion but all these "we'll stop having sex if you get rid of abortions" arguments are making me reconsider. I think loss of abortions is a price worth paying for a better sexual marketplace climate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:08 AM
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I'm pro abortion personally but after seeing the cries from women about how this means they'll stop having casual sex I'm starting to reconsider... I even saw a post on TwoX where a women was advocating for men being forced to basically "marry" women before they had sex (of course phrased in different terms) and all the comments were agreeing with her. Interestingly the comment pointing out that basically she was asking for marriage was super downvoted...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:58 AM
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Protection can break; but this is a risk the woman knowingly takes on, as countless men have been reminded in family court.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:52 AM
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And also poorer people should be having fewer babies than richer people, while we see the opposite (barring extreme levels of income).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:46 AM
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The women shouldn't be getting illegal abortions in unsanitary conditions. This needs to be made clear to them and after a few deaths like this have happened a nationwide television campaign warning about the risk to your own life from clandestine abortions needs to be run to scare people off of it. These women could have prevented their own deaths by not doing something illegal. I weep for them as much as a weep for a burglar who got shot after trespassing on private property and trying to rob …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:43 AM
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Funnily enough there a lot of experimental treatments that are only available in the USA since they are being developed there; other first world countries don't have them either. There have been court cases here in the UK where parents have wanted to move children considered terminally ill over to the US because there is something available there that could potentially help them that isn't available in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:17 PM
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But it worked, that's the point, else those women wouldn't have been seething online. Where did the women's "smell" go in that case in figuring out that he was just looking to smash and dash?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:46 PM
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Not so great when it still doesn't translate into increased opportunities to make friends or meet new women (I actually meet a lot of women through dancing, but they all have partners...) The point is that it isn't enough to merely be "interesting".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:54 PM
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People routinely tell me I'm one of the most interesting persons they've ever met. I'm good with language (fairly witty), very smart and well read (I've been called a walking book of knowledge), been told repeatedly I have good taste, have a ton of interesting and active hobbies (I make perfumes and take part in competitive dancing) and even then I don't get many opportunities to make long lasting friends since I work a 10 hour a day job plus 8 hours sleeping which leaves very little time to unw…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:47 PM
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Women aren’t trying to settle down with Chad, they just want a mutually enjoyable sexual experience. Ah yes, that's why women didn't have a Vesuvius tier eruption of anger over West Elm Caleb who didn't want to settle down either, just have mutually enjoyable sexual experiences. They should have smelled out that he was only after sex and steered well clear; or at least not gone crying all over social media if they were fine with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:24 PM
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This here too is an issue. Making real friends once you're working a third of the day and your body starts demanding you sleep a third of the day is very challenging.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:20 PM
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America has the best healthcare in the world if you can afford it. People routinely go to America for treatments they can't get in their home country.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:17 PM
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Soon, inshallah. Will almost certainly need to get 60 senate seats by 2024 to get it through and even then will need to water it down to get the votes needed. I don't think a nationwide ban is going to happen, but could definitely see a 12 week limit implemented over the whole country. Funnily enough I'm actually pro-abortion. However liberals so so are in need of a slap across the face that I'm enjoying what they are going through. Long may it continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:10 AM
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LMAO what? I'm not the one doing value judgements on these women but the other way around; even though I'm theoretically a great "catch" on paper I pretty much only get attention when the women are drunk and can't evaluate a good prospect from a bad one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:12 PM
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This is why being a man could be better, you have the option to work your ass off and get plenty of options LMAO no. I have multiple elite degrees, am average height (5'10) earn in the top 1% for my age and have interesting hobbies and still have to work extremely hard to get anything. It's not like I don't have any free time either... I don't drink but as we've been told women care about the big picture etc. so given all the other things I have they should be able to see my value when sober but…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:39 PM
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The correct market to look at is not all adults but the 18-29 groups (70 yo grandpa being married has nothing to do with the dating market for young adults), In this group more than half the men are single while less than a third of the women are. Plus telling people that they'll be romantically successful at 30 does nothing for them at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:28 PM
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Yeah, 78.2% of all adults would be next to impossible, even assuming 100% of all women had casual sex online that would still imply a majority of all men had done so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:26 PM
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Yeah, the average man can't bench 200 pounds. It took me 2 months of practice in the gym before I could get to that point and feel safe doing it without a spotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:39 PM
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I don't care if the boorish assholes are gay or straight. They could all be the straightest people ever and I would hate them just as much. For some reason these types of people are attracted to pride events. I just want them away from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 12:24 AM
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If you like back home so much, why'd you move? I came here because I can make more money. My country is bad because of corruption etc.; not because they don't have western idiocy. Plenty of rich very conservative countries like Saudi Arabia exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 12:21 AM
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You don't like men wearing makeup. Lol sounds more like a repression hangup than anything. LMAO you don't know me at all. I personally wear makeup (full foundation, concealer, mascara) for my competitive dancing competitions as do all the other male dancers and we all manage to do it without turning into boorish assholes. I dislike obnoxiousness which is present at much higher levels than baseline at gay pride events.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 12:01 AM
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you could always just stay in your socially conservative third-world country? Too bad for you, I'm already in the west and working at improving the bad points here to be more like the good points back home.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:59 PM
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No, I just hate the loudness and obnoxiousness of pride. It's like taking the worst examples of gay people and putting them in one place. If I could make myself gay personally I would do it; would save me from having to interact romantically with women which is like walking on coals...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:41 PM
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Pink Dot is nothing like western Pride BS. It isn't obnoxious or forced down people's throats. It's more like a civilised party that moves around the area. Certainly there are few companies that change their logos to rainbows or pure pink when it happens compared to the west. Plus its a localised event. Society as a whole doesn't go "ooo, pink dot is happening, I must make a sanctimonious statement to show how much I stand with them". It happens, the people who attend have fun, they go home. End…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:40 PM
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When you restrict abortion, what you get is a glut of unwanted, impoverished children who aren't supervised and raised correctly. I absolutely agree btw. I'm pro abortion personally exactly because of the eugenic effects you mentioned. It's still not slavery though for women to not have access to abortion; being imprisoned is worse and we don't call that slavery either. You cheapen the horror of slavery by calling lack of abortion access the same thing. I'm still happy to see this ruling though.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:16 PM
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I am not western. My entire family is from a third world country with no abortion. I go back and visit more than once a year. Literally none of the women feel like they are slaves. I can ask my mother right now whether she feels or ever felt like a slave because she couldn't abort and get back to you. Who are you, a foreign westerner who has no idea what life is like back there to speak up about these people who's way of life you couldn't even understand if you tried? Yes, life is hard for the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:35 PM
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They still had to stop men leaving the country in the end. If 90% of them were actually willing to fight Zelenskyy could have let the men leave freely and would still have had enough to fight back. He knew in reality that he didn't though, which is why he did the "no 18-60 male can leave the country" thing. Talk is cheap, when it comes to actually put your life on the line people dither. It is truly no surprise to me that one who endorses slavery for women Once again not having access to abortio…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:51 PM
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in WWII as we cannot go back in time. Well then why not look at something happening right now. Ukraine is conscripting fighting age men into the army and has forbidden them from leaving the country. People didn't expect this to happen and were predicting Russia would conquer the country within weeks if not days. However they put up a fight and enlisted tons of men (we know they did this because of all the equipment they are asking for from the west; they had enough equipment for their regular ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:11 PM
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And what happens when their aren't enough volunteers? You have to conscript or get conquered. As was necessary in WWII.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 08:37 PM
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Is that like the societal benefits of sending young men off to war against their will and jailing them if they try to leave? Sort of, aren't you glad the UK etc. didn't just bow down to Hitler when he threatened them and instead chose to conscript the men and fight until victory?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 08:03 PM
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No, that is miscarriage of justice (heh). There are plenty of modern day examples of people in poor countries being held as slaves, doesn't mean every single person in those countries is a slave. Some women will have bad outcomes that wouldn't have happened before, but we need to weight this with the societal benefits of fewer abortions when we do the full calculus (much like how tax removes money from some people who have a lot of it and leaves them worse off, but society as a whole benefits).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:10 PM
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That just kicks the issue up to a federal level where there is nothing stopping the republicans from passing a federal law restricting this practice the next time they are in power.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:09 PM
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That's just like, .... your opinion .... man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:57 PM
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A fetus is like bacteria in that it can be killed, much as how a human is like a chicken in that it can be eaten; however the consequences of eating the two are very different. Killing a fetus is bad because it has the potential to become a human on its own without extra genetic information being added, but killing a bacteria/sperm cell etc. is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:23 PM
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Yes there is. You kill bacteria every time you wash your hands. Same goes for the fetus. It's alive, so it can be killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:17 PM
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Not having abortion access is the same as slavery according to you. Via that standard most women in the world are enslaved. Ever thought about asking some of them what they think about this slavery? (Hint: they will look at you like you're mad if you tell them they're slaves).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:16 PM
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Not worth it. Extremely expensive. If you're going to spend on surgery you can turn your face into that of a model for less with less downtime and pain too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:35 PM
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and they will push to make the morning after pill illegal Good. That way the crazy libs will be forced to waste their time fighting against this crazy con idea and normal people can just live their lives...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:29 PM
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Those women should know not to do this. Just because some idiots willingly jump from planes without a parachute is not a good reason to ban all flights.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:27 PM
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Or they could choose to not fuck (rape exemption not withstanding).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:24 PM
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Exemptions for the life of the mother exist in pretty much every abortion law.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:23 PM
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Those women took it upon themselves to abort rather than face the consequence of their actions. Actions have consequences sweety, a rape exemption is enough to cover the edge cases going through their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:22 PM
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Sounds like they are simply getting their just desserts for killing a fetus...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:21 PM
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Sure, and that is fine actually. The social impact from the change (which is what people are actually after) is pretty much the same if the change stops 100% of abortions or "just" 99% of abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:19 PM
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Here in the UK there are laws against taking someone to another country for FGM, I wonder if laws against taking people out of state for an abortion would work in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 05:18 PM
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Correct, it is a better basis than nothing but sharing interests is not enough for a friendship. It is absolutely not sufficient, which is the point I'm making.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 12:39 PM
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So being friends with someone who shares the same interests as you makes you lesser friends than strangers? No. Friendship is much more than just sharing interests. Sharing interests is a good basis for friendship but calling someone who is on the same football team as you that you go out with drinks once a month your "friend" cheapens what true friendship is. You can definitely become friends with that dude but the bonds need to be much stronger. I'd say a good litmus test for whether you consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 08:57 AM
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This. Back when we still shamed rakes properly men by and large didn't even want to notch up large counts. Truly the sexual revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 11:41 PM
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I am not including casual or work acquaintances. This. Calling work acquaintances or people who also do the same hobby as you friends cheapens the value of friendship. And I'd agree very few men have female friends; I have some, but they're basically men in a woman's body...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 11:12 PM
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Maybe for you; I'm not Western though and still have strong links with my birth country; I'm pretty certain I'll end up importing a woman from back home in the end who still understands what it means to be female and the natural gender dynamics between men/women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:37 AM
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This whole study is about college students. Everyone is equally poor here and yet the man pays 2/3rd of the time regardless of whether he initiated the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:35 AM
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Yeah, when society saw women as low value there was a huge outcry about it and everything and beyond was done to "equalise" results. Now that the opposite is happening we get crickets...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:34 AM
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This whole study was done on college students (so mostly under 25); and yet there was no significant difference in who pays based on who asked for the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:33 AM
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Take it from me, creative hobbies don't help if they won't even spend time reading the bio. I'm in a similar situation to you financially and my hobbies are literally playing musical instruments/singing and competitive dancing (how very Dionysian of me...) and have this on my bio with pics of me all dressed up dancing in competitions. Yet next to no matches at all...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:55 PM
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This. I'm under 25, making over $300k in the UK which generally has much lower salaries than the US in a prestigious and interesting finance field with prospects for this number to massively increase over the next few years and have this prominently written on my bio. It clearly isn't working at even getting me matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:53 PM
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Dude, being white is the most advantageous racial demographic in general. And then when us non-whites say racism is still a big issue in society its the whites who are going nuh uh, well almost all whites; the remaining few whites immediately appoint themselves as "speakers for the disenfranchised" and proceed to tell everyone what non-white people actually need/want without even consulting us once.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:21 PM
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I just had it last week, so haven't seen full results yet (my practitioner said I should wait 4 weeks to see final results). So far though some darker patches I had on my face have lightened up to match the complexion of the surrounding areas and my skin seems to "glow" more in general, don't know how long this will last though. I definitely had bleeding during the procedure and my face was red for 3 days afterwards and my skin kept flaking off in small pieces for those days but it all cleared u…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:07 PM
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I think his point is that what counts as masculine/feminine is different between Asia/US. A face could count as feminine in the US but masculine in Asia and so people preferring it would show up as them liking femininity in the US but masculinity in Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:45 PM
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IMO "feminine" looking men are typically men that just give a damn about their appearance and put effort into their self care. This. I had microneedling done last week and use serum regularly. I told one of my friends this when he saw my red face from the procedure and said it will lead to good skin when I'm 45 and his reply was "why would you care about what you look like at 45 as a man?" and my expression was just "Wut???".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:42 PM
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Wonder if you would say the same if Elon banned support of Antifa from twitter, or supporting trans athletes in women's leagues in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:42 AM
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Agreed, it's sexual harassment, but that is not the same thing as rape. Rape is a far worse thing, conflating the two can only lessen how severely people think of rape and the appropriate punishment for it in the long term (e.g. if rape is forced penetration I would be OK with a 15 year prison sentence for rape; if the term is cheapened to include persistent nagging for sex I wouldn't be).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:48 PM
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I agree this is harassment. No different to being cold called 20 times by someone I've said no to every single time previously. It should be singled out and shamed and men who practice this be punished. Men (like all humans) respond to incentives. Don't give good outcomes to men who harass women, slap them across the face instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:16 PM
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lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:10 PM
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Looks like madmin cleanup is in progress. The drama bait subs r/femaledatingstrategypros and r/witchesvsscrotes were both banned for "hate".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:09 PM
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Except with tinder and dating apps the match distribution is wayyyy worse than the wealth distribution in even famously unequal places like South Africa and Sweden (yes Sweden has massive wealth inequality, go check it out; taxes are so high it's basically impossible to get rich through work, you have to inherit money or get lucky with your own business).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 12:19 AM
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Take these women who conceive with such men and put a polygraph on them and ask them if they like those men. You'll mostly find the true answer is that they do. And yes, before you point it out polygraph tests can be fooled if you know what to do, but 99% of people don't know how to fool one of them so the aggregate statistic will still be valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 12:17 AM
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Jobs are also not something you need to survive in this day and age. Even homeless people survive unless they fall down the drug hole becuase welfare is generous enough in pretty much every western country.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 12:15 AM
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Still a good reason to avoid these people (perhaps now especially so). I don't care if you became paraplegic in an accident that was not your fault, I'm not going to date you because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 12:07 AM
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Yeah, at that point you get more sex by working instead of approaching women and using the money on prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 12:04 AM
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Isn't 31 year old Sarah more experienced than 25 year old Sarah? Yes, but if you stay with 25 year old Sarah long enough you'll get to experience 31 year old Sarah too, but not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:30 PM
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So you admit that adding online dating has removed what were previously considered good options and concede my main point? And back in the past people didn't mind casual approaches at work/at hobbies, it was seen as part of the deal and people were used to it. Sure, some people may have been made slightly uncomfortable, but that was minor in the grand scheme of things, certainly less than the large scale pain and suffering from dating apps cause. Now society has conditioned people to not like ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:09 PM
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That's literally the point here. Adding online dating turns stuff like "dating at work",."dating via hobbies" unreasonable choices since people move away from it to the "easier" option and start implementing social norms against these methods, thus hurting those who prefer to use these methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:52 PM
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Fair point. That's actually a valid criticism, although I was more looking at it from the men's point of view, where OLD is like this new method that theoretically makes it very easy for men to get dates (swiping on phone vs going out), so like the free road between A and B but in actuality makes all other non-OLD options less viable and leads to a situation that's worse than before OLD came on the scene but men are forced to use it because everything else is even more shit now due to it's impac…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 11:18 PM
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I already have had someone I'm convinced is trolling me. Either that, or they are displaying an incredible ability to ignore the main point I'm making, which is that even with perfect information and perfect rationality, more options does not equal more good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:58 PM
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We have to save people from themselves, because they're too stupid to know what they want. No, my post literally argues the opposite. It's a case where everyone has perfect information/perfect reasoning (as smart as they can be) and adding the option still leaves them worse off. Did you even read it? Besides, I'm convinced you are trolling. Goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:56 PM
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Ok, that's it. You are completely trolling, I'm not responding to you any more after this, you can have the last word, I don't care. The fact that it worked way back when there were no cars and only horse drawn carriages is irrelevant. It worked with cars too, back when the load was less. You can't predict exactly in 1950 where the skyscrapers will be built by 2000 and so which routes will have the most traffic, you just make reasonable guesses, and wait it out and patch things that don't go acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:52 PM
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Ok, you're just trolling now. I refuse to believe someone can be this thick. If you don't like the apple example here is another one. Suppose there is a buffet that costs $10 per person and has 5 options. Now suppose they add an extra option, poisoned seal liver. Now getting this liver is expensive and as a result they have to raise the price of the buffet to $15 per person. The liver is also poisoned btw, so it's not like people can eat it. In this case the extra option has made life worse for …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:39 PM
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*Gives short bow* Anytime.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:32 PM
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Making something "better for cars" didn't improve people's lives. It just moves the problem somewhere else. Except it literally did. They shut down a car road and made it pedestrian only, thereby improving the situation for walkers as well as cars as well because of the paradox I mentioned. It's literally a free win. Did you even read my post or the linked article? What it does show is that the original design wasn't conducive to people nor cars, so the problem was the original design No, that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:23 PM
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If having multiple options is best for individuals, then all those individuals gets what best for them. This is just straight up wrong. Suppose in Scenario A everybody gets an apple to eat. In Scenario B everyone gets to choose between an apple covered with bullshit and bullshit for their meal (transporting the bullshit meant some of it got onto the apples). Nobody really likes bullshit, but they have the option of choosing it. Having this option is better for individuals over not being allowed …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:46 PM
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Also as I mentioned in my post, they've actually used this to work out which streets to pedestrianize to improve traffic flow in NYC (and many other places around the world), and when they did this the results were what they expected, so clearly it does work on people too, otherwise the pedestrianisation wouldn't have improved real world car travel times.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:42 PM
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It's very deep and inbuilt in men, it's irrational I agree (like women's fear or dark streets at night), but equally you can't reason people out of something they didn't reason themselves into, so no amount of paternity testing being available is going to stop this feeling we get, you have to placate the fear instead (e.g. by installing bright lights on streets for women's fear).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:38 PM
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We aren't talking about the individual level here, we're talking about society here. Even in the example above limiting choice limits people. Destroying the A to B route limits every single truck driver from taking the Start to A, A to B, B to End path. At an individual level they are always better off having more options, no matter what everyone else is doing (since these are perfectly rational, perfect information people). However societally everyone having that extra option means everyone is …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:35 PM
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Do I really have to link the research again? This has been posted 100 times+ on this subreddit and elsewhere. See: https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/u4vf66/my_fiance_fabricated_a_fake_sex_life_when_we_met/i4y4gfg/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:36 PM
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Yeah, that is bad too. Fortunately women by and large don't even like sleeping around unless society pushes this onto them. See Israel where sleeping around is fully legal and all, but not promoted by a hypersexualised culture like in the west; pretty much no women, not even the secular ones, sleep around; instead, preferring to lock down a single man early on and get married to him by like 27.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:35 PM
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It isn't fear, it's disgust. I'm disgusted by other people's shit, not afraid of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:02 PM
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And for men n-count is important in the same way as it is an indicator of how likely she is to cheat on him and make him waste his resources on another man's children. He doesn't think of this consciously, but deep down it makes him feel great instinctual revulsion; it's no different from how even little kittens know how to go for the neck when they are hunting mice. Men don't like it for the same reason they don't like being in pain (pain is an evolutionary signal telling the brain something is…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:17 PM
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No, women get it for free, they don't even have to make the effort to earn all that money the men spend. It's certainly the more pathetic of the two (I agree men paying for sex is also pathetic).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:13 PM
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That's like telling women who slept around but are now looking for a stable partner to be totally honest about their n-count early on. That will just drive away lots of men who could be persuaded to accept her past because of her other good qualities. It's going to hurt her personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:12 PM
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That only solves the problem at a personal level, the societal level issue is still there and it will lead to lots of unpartnered angry men with nothing to lose (never a good sign for civilisation). Promiscuity (especially male promiscuity) needs to be socially shamed until it is restricted to a subset small enough to not impact the general dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:11 PM
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So right now you and people like you are basically admitting you are racist. And yet when politicians decry the amount of racism in society and announce measures to tackle it you cry out saying there is very little racism left? Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:32 PM
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This dude understands...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 06:40 PM
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There are not tons of 45 year olds on high 6 figure salaries. Top 1% yearly income in the US is around $500,000 . High 6 figure salaries are less than 1% of all people and the majority of these are married by 45 or working in a role where it would damage their professional reputation if it came out that they had a sugar baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 06:39 PM
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I'm from Asia. Don't want to get into more details for OpSec reasons. I like good looking women, don't really care about their race at all. Like I said I get some success IRL but OLD is very very dry (I have an excellent conversion rate if I can get them to go on a date with me, but it's next to impossible to get women to that point off apps).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:00 PM
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Oh yes, it is absolutely true. I'm not white though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:49 PM
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Yeah, but that is textbook racism (discrimination on skin colour).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:37 PM
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but I don't match with Indian men cause to be honest a lot of them are kind of weird around women Ah yes, damning the whole race because of your stereotype. Say that you wouldn't hire black men because lots of them steal and see how quickly your ass gets busted with federal discrimination lawsuits for racism. What you are doing is racism, plain and simple. I don't care what "personal choice" arguments you make, it is still racism and the fact many white women think like you just goes to show how…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:17 PM
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They had the same argument why they were putting up "No blacks, No Irish, No dogs" posters on the outside of pubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:12 PM
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It's not just physical features, women are actually racist towards the skin colour. North Indians have the same physical bone structure as whites, here's an example of an albino indian family: https://designyoutrust.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/1111-20.jpg ; they could easily pass of as Norwegians, but they don't have the same level of dating success as whites.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:07 PM
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That's nothing. I'm 5'10, earning £200k+ in my early 20s, fit, decent looking face, have a strong profile with professionally taken and curated photos and do competitive dancing as a hobby which I mention on my profile and get like 1 match a month who doesn't reply back half the time. I actually do OK irl (well sort of, I'd like to do better) via my hobbies but the discrepancy is massive between OLD and reality, even though my photos were taken specifically by the photographer to accentuate my l…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:55 AM
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The appeal of dating apps is in theory they make it much easier to find dates. The difference between theory and reality...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:49 AM
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LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 09:01 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheka
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 05:03 PM
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Here is one: https://www.forbes.com/sites/petersuciu/2022/03/21/the-babylon-bees-twitter-account-was-suspended-but-that-made-its-story-go-viral/?sh=441f63e2209d Reversed later, but only because the satire site was able to kick up a big stink, not something every individual is able to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 04:30 PM
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Sure, but I don't give a shit, I just want to see the bluecheka suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 03:53 PM
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Fair, but you don't have to be married to be liable for child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 03:53 PM
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LMAO, and just when they're about to have a child too. She's richer than him as well, so will have to pay him child support if she choose to divorce... Remember ladies, this is the world you wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 03:32 PM
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He will be allowed, you won’t be Don't care, I just want to revel in bluecheck seethe, which Musk freely tweeting will be enough to generate in copious amounts. I have no intention of ever posting on Twatter (personally I think the world would be a much better place it Twitter disappeared overnight).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 03:24 PM
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Leftists are against private property in general God I am so so happy leftists don't have any real power anywhere I would ever want to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 03:22 PM
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Yeah, our "fair share" of being tens of thousands of debt from student loans; banking oligarchs literally laughing in our face telling us, "You will own nothing and be happy!" This but unironically. In pervious generations only a small select slice were able to rise above the "nasty, brutish, short" aphorism. That slice is bigger now due to economic growth/technology but it is still only a slice. We're just reverting to that trend. Hopefully within a hundred or so years we get general AI which c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 03:20 PM
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Yes? I believe my ideas are better than their ideas, else I wouldn't believe in my ideas. This isn't the gotcha you think it is. There is to be no quarter for the woke.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 03:16 PM
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and then preside over massive value destruction. That too would be glorious to see (the money would by and large go to shareholders, who average out to being centrists due to the ubiquity of index funds these days). Twitter in its current form needs to be destroyed, I don't care if its because it starts allowing the full gamut of views again or gets destroyed to cinders. I'm not even a Musk fan, I just want to see bluecheck seethe as they lose their precious sanctuary of sanctimonious self-right…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 03:05 PM
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LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 03:01 PM
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He's the most successful African American in the world. A role model to all of us, especially POC.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 02:54 PM
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and a nightmare boss This I would actually agree with. Money is one reason to work for him (at the moment his companies pay low for what they demand), but I agree he needs to treat his workers better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 02:52 PM
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Exactly, because the Terms of Service have been updated so many times to specifically become hostile to expressing anti-progressive views. Musk just need to change the Twitter Terms of Service until it gets much harder to violate them by expressing widely held beliefs. Then the right wingers don't get banned any more. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 02:50 PM
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And as I said, he can just keep the current porn/spam filters twitter has while stopping the banning of right wingers. He doesn't have to change anything except the right winger bannings. Twitter won't change from what it is like right now except there will be more such people on it. The glorious thing is that this is enough to make the leftards reeeee...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 02:47 PM
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Sure, don't call it "free speech" then. Call it "no capricious bannings for expressing views >30% of Americans hold" or whatever. Fucking call it "owning the libs" if you want. I don't care, I just want to see leftard seethe when they have the "private company" argument used against them. I don't even like the GOP (I dislike Dems more tho)...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 02:43 PM
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A man can dream...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 02:39 PM
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Well, he doesn't really have to go full free speech, just stop banning right wingers (what most people associate with free speech these days). Current twitter is fine against spam, he can keep those filters in place. He really doesn't have to change much beyond stop banning right wingers to make the leftards sperg out. Doesn't even have to market it as "free speech", just as allowing "a more diverse range of viewpoints". Twitter already has a ton of porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 02:39 PM
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Lol, more generational resentment. Yes the boomers had it sort of good compared to what they should have had, but that wasn't because they stole it from later generations, but rather we had two generations of utter misery in the early 20th century and then the boomers benefited from things improving very fast very quickly as they returned to the long term average trend. Later generations are back at normal baseline and now are complaining. No, you're getting your fair share once again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 02:26 PM
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Anyone else cheering on Elon Musk in his attempt to buy Twitter? I hope he succeeds and makes it much more of a free speech zone. Then we can dunk on all the crying leftards about how it's a "private company".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 02:23 PM
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Cause men make better friends in general than women do. I've yet to have a male friend flake on me unless it was super serious. Plenty of women though "just don't feel like it anymore" too often.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 02:21 PM
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God I hate Straggots. I blame the simps for perpetuating the crap state of the Sexual marketplace for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:01 PM
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True, however this does not imply that those regulars only go to her. They could be fucking a different "side hoe" every other time they visit a worker and still keep her as a regular the use 50% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 11:33 AM
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Correct, however in a relationship men sleep with the same woman each time while with prostitutes it can be a new girl every event. It's well known that men value sleeping with a girl the first time much more than doing it e.g. the 50th time (we ejaculate better quality sperm for one, other physiological changes as well the first time vs 50th time) so you have to discount the value of relationship sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 11:16 AM
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lots of texting/questions This was your mistake. Texting is for logistics, and pretty much only logistics. Always always convert text to a physical meetup as quickly as you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 11:08 AM
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You heard the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:04 AM
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Also the bone regrowth is not the same as natural bone. It's more like the burr on a tree (look at xray photos, you can clearly see where the cutting was done and the healing). You don't want to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 08:35 PM
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Fashion house perfumes are considered to be the lower end of fragrances. You want niche houses for the best of the best, they pretty much only do perfumes. Try some Xerjoff or Creed or Serge Lutens.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 08:12 PM
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As a fraghead $100 is nothing for a top notch well blended fragrance. You're paying for the finer things at that point. You can get cheaper dupes that to the untrained nose smell almost the same but once you've smelled thousands of perfumes you learn to notice the subtleties (e.g. less linear, better progression of scent, longer lasting etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 08:11 PM
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This. I'm against the concept of multi-dating/spinning plates as a whole but if I say so I'll get a ton of "what about ..."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 08:08 PM
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I'm still too young to have children but I absolutely intend to. Both to do my duty to society as well as having someone to look after me in my dotage. Like it or not, raising the next generation is the duty of all of us, and at the moment we are shirking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 12:15 AM
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If they all had children they'd still get to the same point, maybe a little slower, because someone has to reach these points (e.g. someone has to be a company CEO). At the moment due to the rat race having a child means you suffer a lot because your competitors in the race aren't burdened by it, but if everyone had children it wouldn't make a difference in the ordering in the end. No different to a physical race where if you are the only one with an extra 20kg load of e.g. spices on your back y…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 12:13 AM
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Then the individuals that are the working Poor or poverty will load us up with a bunch of kids like always. These people are doing this right now anyways. The point of a tax is that the high earners are going to be hit by it more than the low ones (who earn so little it won't really affect them), hence you raise the high earning intelligent people birth rate while having minimal impact on the birth rate of the lower classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 12:02 AM
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Because society collapses if people don't have enough children, and then everyone, including you, suffer even more. It is not about you or what you want as an individual, but society as a whole. If you really don't want children then yes, just pay the tax and have your interesting sex life. Edit : Why would you want children to be born to people that don't want them? Again, if you really don't want children, then pay the tax and don't have them. Otherwise you want children at least as much as yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 11:53 PM
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you can't force people to have children Once again you don't have to force them to have children. Just change the calculus for them so that not having children/pairing up is worse than having children/pairing up. Implement say an additional 30% tax rate for the non-infertile childless (using the money on extra child benefits) and see how quickly these very same people procreate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 11:28 PM
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We absolutely do need to have more children as a species, if not now then in the coming decades. Part of the economic issues right now are caused by a lopsided population pyramid stemming from the fact that our parents and grandparents didn't have enough children. Right now we plug the gap with immigration, but the developing world is going the same way as their mode of life gets tainted with Western ways so in 50 years time developed countries are going to have to compete for immigrants. Now yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 11:08 PM
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This, but unironically. Coding is super well paid and extremely in demand if you can do it well. I'm talking about $300k+ straight out of college if you're good (I know multiple people, including myself who makes this much money).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 10:45 PM
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Can't force people to be together. I agree, you don't need to though. Just encourage them through societal nudging. 1% of people being degenerate druggies is no big issue, 50% of people being degenerate druggies leads to societal collapse. Same with pairing up. No need to force anyone to pair up, just sweeten the deal for paired couples, and make it worse for singles (e.g. higher taxes for the unmarried, if you want to go even further, higher taxes for the childless) and people will of their own…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 10:40 PM
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I agree you can't. Much like you can't force people to not take drugs or drink as much alcohol as they want. However we can take measures to make going against the grain of what society wants difficult (e.g. stronger penalties for owning illegal guns and mandatory yearly checks of all firearms a person owns) which pushes the meter towards the socially desirable side, much like how our Covid control measures haven't eradicated Covid, but reduced the amount of cases there are at any given time, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 10:33 PM
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Personally I've never touched an illicit drug in my life. Neither have I. But I am assured by many people that drugs are amazing things and if they could do them 24/7 without a care in the world they would. Now this is their version of "freedom", however society would suffer pretty badly if say 60-70% of people took this path. So it restricts them, for its own health. My point is that society restricting individual's freedom for its own continued growth and success is nothing new and something t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 10:27 PM
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Those are the exact same reasons why it makes sense for women to pair up with average looking guys when young and stick to them like a limpet. However in the short term they go for Chad (akin to buying everything from Amazon) since it is better which just makes the Detroit future all the more likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 10:14 PM
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Yeah, but that is how society as a whole veers towards collapse. People may very well like doing drugs 24/7 and nothing else, but a society where people just do drugs isn't sustainable, so we restrict their availability.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 10:09 PM
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Same with jobs btw. Stop complaining all you can get is shitty low paid work and go learn to code if you want to be able to live in a highly desirable location.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 10:07 PM
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That makes absolutely no sense. It's like saying farming is immoral since having something to eat is a basic human right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 08:35 PM
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Bali.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 07:09 PM
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I believe California (or some other ultra blue state) a few years ago actually changed lying about HIV being a felony to a misdemeanour. SMH those people...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 07:09 PM
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Gender guesser to the rescue: http://www.hackerfactor.com/GenderGuesser.php Results: Genre: Informal Female = 1256 Male = 1206 Difference = -50; 48.98% Verdict: Weak FEMALE Weak emphasis could indicate European. Could be either, no strong tilt either way...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 07:03 PM
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I'd say the religious ones would be the 0 previous premarital partners who have the tiny divorce rate. The 1 previous partners would mostly be non-religious couples who've stuck together forever so religion doesn't really play a part here. Either way, as a man it's pretty clear, marrying a woman who was a non-virgin when you met her leads to significantly increased risk of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 11:31 PM
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Well, according to the ifsstudies post linked in another reply, 10+ partners increase the risk from 20% (1 premarital partner, i.e. only you, the 0 ones are religious outliers we can ignore) to 33%, so 65% increased risk. So yes, a woman 20 years younger is worse than a 10+ partners woman, but not by all that much, and remember, younger women have fewer partners, so a 20 year gap relationship with a virgin may actually turn out better than a matched relationship with the rusty town bicycle stati…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 11:28 PM
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Hmm, this just makes me think my friends who insist on a virgin woman are right given that even 2 partners (1 of which will be you, so just 1 previous partner) is enough to be almost as bad as 10+ partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 11:22 PM
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Couples 20 years apart in age are 90% more likely to divorce. So not even 2x normal risk. I wonder how this compares to divorce risk increase from marrying a promiscuous woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 10:37 PM
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Years of practise.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 06:51 PM
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Same is true for gays in large portions of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:47 PM
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The post is about bias. Private platforms can be biased. I can choose to give my money to charity A but not charity B because I don't like the person who runs B. This is perfectly legal and fine, but I'm still biased nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:46 PM
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As a non-westerner I am so so glad I can import a girl from my own culture who still understands the meaning behind "till death do us part".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:39 PM
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The damage is minimal, and anyway with genetic screening these days you can just abort damaged fetuses or with selective IVF (which is now available if you can pay, something a rich 50yo can do but not a poor 25yo) you can even select a genetically desirable embryo to carry to term.. Yes genetically the 25yo man is a better bet (assuming everything else is constant, a 50yo Nobel prize winner is a better genetic bet than a 25yo bum), but genetics isn't everything, a child growing with a rich 50yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 06:18 PM
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Your mental image of old men is nothing like what old men are actually like. The vast majority of 60yo would be very happy to have a 31yo wife and would treat her like a queen (provided she did the same to him).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 04:57 PM
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Getting a 20yo interested in you at 60 is much harder than doing so at 50. At 50 you still have a portion of your career etc. ahead of you. A 60yo would generally be quite happy with a 31yo, especially when that is someone he has 10 years of history with. It's actually a pretty good deal for the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 04:25 PM
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Or he actually is willing to commit. Most 50yo men would realise the opportunity to get with a 21yo does not come often so are more likely to commit compared to if she was say 35yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 04:17 PM
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Rich people say the same about taxes. Why should their money go to pay for the poor's social services? However we still tax them (increasingly).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:52 PM
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Islam is the way to go actually. This but unironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:51 PM
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This is why woke culture is very wrong Woke is essentially the new secular religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:50 PM
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Casual sex also was just as common in more "conservative" times No, it really wasn't. Back in the days before birth control you could look at the amount of out of wedlock births as a proxy for how much casual sex there was going on, and it was pretty minimal compared to these days. Yes, the men at the top slept around but this was a very small proportion of all men and absolutely nothing to do with the life of the average man/woman. Casual sex will always exist, whether in OLD, prostitution, or …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:48 PM
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Same with you, the only difference is that your ilk have some power and are more likely to actually end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:46 PM
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No, a stigma means fewer people do it. Prohibition significantly reduced the amount of alcohol being consumed, even if you used liberal estimates of how much bootlegging there was going on. Casual sex is one of the strongest biological desires produced by the human body. No, the desire to have sex is, not casual sex. Another very strong biological desire is taking a shit from time to time. However society very strongly restricts where this is appropriate and where this is not, we can do the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:44 PM
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If that 50yo man has 20x the resources of all her other potentilla mates and seems like he will commit then it makes complete sense to reporoduce with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:46 AM
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Correct. However having more children means more grandchildren and so on, meaning more spread of your genes. It's why men don't suddenly lose all interest in sex after their first child is born.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:44 AM
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F.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 09:24 PM
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Happiness in aggregate among groups can be quantified pretty well, it's how they come up with those yearly "happiest countries in the world" metric (which are mostly BS, but do have something behind them) besides the post was just to illustrate that shaming can be good, nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 09:06 PM
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Consider a case where there are 100 farmers and a clean healthy field that everyone enjoys (the commons). It brings them +100 happiness each. Now each farmer produces some rubbish that they have to get rid of. If they get rid of it properly it takes some effort and costs them 3 happiness. Now alternatively they could dump it on the commons which is easier, but it makes the commons slightly worse for everyone and reduces all the farmer's happiness by 1. All the 100 farmers have this choice. Now i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 07:40 PM
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And that leads to the tragedy of the commons where everyone suffers because of decay in social norms. Shaming is good when applied properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 01:42 PM
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Or you just take the hit and get disinvited from dinner for a while. No need to air your dirty laundry. Again you have a choice in what you do. Yes this sucks for those who had legitimate reasons, however it is a very small hit to these people for a very large benefit to the spouses of those who would abandon them on a whim. The fact that we can't tell the difference is exactly why we do this, otherwise we would sanction the scumbags directly. It's literally how markets operate from the buyers p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 10:37 AM
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Exactly, which is why you shame just enough to discourage people from splitting up for spurious reasons (e.g. disinviting them from community dinners for a year or two), but not so hard that the costs from the shaming lead to people staying in bad relationships (e.g. spreading bad allegations about them to the point they can't get a decent job ever).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 10:05 PM
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I like how you immediately though of women when the OP was about both men/women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 09:52 PM
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Shaming is known to empirically work at least decently well with these sort of things. It worked so well in the past that it often led to people staying in actually bad relationships. A more moderate version of that would be an improvement to the current climate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 09:51 PM
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These days literal bitches probably treat the average man better than metaphorical bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 07:37 PM
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The point is the distribution of sex (rather than reproduction) is becoming more lopsided again compared to 100 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 01:44 AM
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In the past 1 man reproduced for every 17 women. This was in the way way past before there was any real "society". The advent of agriculture reduced that to 1 man for ever 4 women and as society grew the ratio fell even further.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 01:39 AM
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