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that fits a LOT of women (and men). i would say its very seldom that people like to talk about in depth about complex topics in their day to day interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:35 PM
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If I were to tell you I'm inviting my cousin over... but I should warn you ... they have no job, no friends, live in their mom's basement, their room is a disaster zone, and they're pretty uneducated. you are focusing on the negative. focus on the positive instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:29 PM
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"loser" is so subjective... whats a "loser" for somebody is a 10/10 for somebody else. a women working 80h a week to spend it all on cars and fashion is a loser for me. a great partner for another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:28 PM
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Lazy means she's probably going to be dead weight in your life. "lazy" is a slure in our capitalistic society so thame people who dont "perform". most people arent "lazy" at all - they just dont want to work in the capitalistic system.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:27 PM
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a man loves a woman no matter if shes broke or wether she can do stuff for him, that isnt true at all. most men wont love a woman if she wont have sex with him or give him any intimacy and attention aka "does stuff for him".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 03:09 PM
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they go to war and die for random stuff whatever it is. most men dont "go" to war and "die for random stuff".... i would say 99.9% arent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:51 PM
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beeing a surgeon doesnt make you "cool as fuck"... touch some grass (or some surgeons)... there are tons of sociopathic or plain and boring surgeons and other high status career people out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:47 PM
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you dont need to be desired by "most" women. you only need one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:47 PM
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you shouldnt assume that you are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:46 PM
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ofc you need money to survive - but that isnt relationship exclusive. try to do anything in live without money as a single?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:44 PM
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So you aim to give no tangible effort into the relationship? what a sad way to think about relationships. the only way someone can give "tangible effort" into a relationship is... money?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:41 PM
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"medium size" and "moderate" arent bad things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:43 PM
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Mediocre is an inherently insulting term. is it? most people are mediocre... thats perfectly normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:43 PM
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Love don't exist for average men, just isnt true... stop your negative world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:38 PM
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Most men simply cannot be with women excited to be with them. then become a man who can excite a woman? it isnt that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:35 PM
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But from my experience, other men don’t go out of their way for you and say good things about a man until some kind of worthiness is shown. of course. why should i say good things about people if i dont know them? i dont say good things about women i dont know either?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:46 PM
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We are mocked, bullied, isolated, abandoned, etc. not true at all... im a man and i never was mocked or abandoned for beeing a man - nor are my friends and peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:54 PM
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They treat each other like "you have to prove yourself to get respect". im a man of 38 years ... i never tried to make another man"prove" himself... everyone should have basic respect... unless they prove that they dont deserve respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:53 PM
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because its "just what you do". they dont ask themselves if they want it. they just do what they think they have to do. social pressure is a huge thing for human beeings.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:15 PM
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urban legend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:49 PM
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for most people its just "what everyone is doing". its the norm. the default life script - and most people just follow that. they dont realy ask themselves if they WANT it. men and women the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:24 PM
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i bet you have some sources that prove your point? cause there isnt ANY history on how hunter gatherer societys worked...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:25 PM
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capitalism. the fashion industry needs to sell stuff to make money. if one thing would be trendy forever the sales would slow down.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:23 PM
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within that logic all women in the world would only fuck billionaires.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:21 PM
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Because it signals competence to other men. does it? there are tons of homeless crack addicts with women...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:18 PM
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We have to be literally perfect. We can not make mistakes, we can't be weak, we always compete with one another. as an adult male... thats bullshit. never felt like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 12:24 PM
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Like returning to how it was 30,000 years ago. Where women openly flock to the top 1% kings and warlords, while the rest of the men are essentially openly slaves. that isnt true at all. no one knows how live and society worked 30.000 years ago. there is literaly zero information.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:31 PM
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Why wouldn't a man want to be successful. money isnt the only measure of "success".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:32 PM
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Losers rarely can have a good career. there are tons of IT guys with very well paying jobs who are "loosers"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:24 PM
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Wanting to learn to play the guitar is an ambition. and yet when people say "ambition" they usualy mean "ambition to get a well paying job"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:22 PM
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tons of men (and women) equal ambition with material posessions... its not a far take.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:20 PM
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"lazy" and "ambitious" are so soft words... a man can be super lazy in his job and a great partner - a man can be super ambitious in his job and you wont see him awake and happy in his lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:18 PM
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women always worked. would be dumb to not "allow" them to work if you need every hand on the field and every penny earned by stuff like making clothes or other handywork.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 03:10 PM
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women ALWAYS worked. the whole "houswife" thing is a very very small timeframe of maybe 100-150 years and even then it wasnt a thing for the whole population.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 03:09 PM
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why do most men dont play sports and are obese if they are "much more inspired" by athletes? ~50% of men in the US are obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:37 PM
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you say this like its a law of nature. and thats just not true. tons of women get inspired by celebrities to be "un obese"... ofc thats not healthy either. most people ... men nor women dont get inspired by atheletes either.. they just watch the games and stuff their mouths with snacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:31 PM
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both arent valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:26 PM
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you dont have to be rich to be a funny and interesting guy... tons of people with fat bank accounts are boring nerds. no one finds that itneresting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:53 PM
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Plus, all of the women who fetishize snatching up a C-suite guy. they fantasize about a hot and rich guy... look who sits in the C-suite in most Top500 Companys... fat and wrinkly bald old men... no one drools over them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:50 PM
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I view cheapness as a signal of high iq for some reason. maybe you should see a therapist? why is cheapness = highIQ? you deny yourself of any pleasure and just pile up money without using it? you sell your time and your live away without any return. doesnt sound very smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:49 PM
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women cant smell money... if you have a ton of money and live like a bum - people will assume you are a bum and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:45 PM
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What if men are just more ambitious than women? look at real world men... most men arent ambitious at all.. all they want is a food, a woman and a gaming pc or some consumer goods like cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:00 PM
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Lol what? Looks are permanent? Have you not heard of aging? a good looking young man will probably have a high chance to be a good looking older man. ofc you wont always look like a 24year old stud - but ofc you can be an ugly 50year old guy or a handsome 50 year old guy. hella difference
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 03:34 PM
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How is it different at all? imagine if that women would win the lottery. would she still be attracted to a hot guy with good looks? would she stll be attracted to someone with the "ability to provide" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 03:31 PM
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I once dated a girl whose ex was worth 9-figures through his parents. They owned vineyards abroad, he flew private, fine dining on command. She described him to me and her comments were totally about his lifestyle. I was the “hot normal dude” in this interaction. he was her ex and you dated her as the "hot normal dude" - you prove his point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 02:54 PM
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And yet we call the president leader of the free world you can call everyone anything.. doesnt make it true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:10 PM
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a President isnt someone who can "lead" a country wherever he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:51 PM
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cause they dont know what their qualities are ... or they simply dont have other attractive qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:13 PM
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Do you find the idea of one leader of a country weird yes.. thats called a dictatorship and it never had good end.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:03 PM
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shouldnt be the case if you are in a relationship... why be in a relationship with a man you arent attraxted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:41 PM
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he doesnt get dates ... so yes it matters a ton.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:41 PM
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outside at shared hobbies. shared lifestyle venues. bars. concerts. in school .. in university... at the park. also dating apps work... they maximize your chances to meet people. ofc you wont meet 10 great women per day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:11 PM
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and the climate 20 years ago was a lot different..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:09 PM
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And before anyone goes yay less people.... It's not a good thing... why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:04 PM
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If I want to get women I have to play their game. there are tons of women who dont want you for "wallets and labor"...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:56 PM
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a 30 year old with his first job after his masters certainly isnt a "rich man".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:56 PM
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tons of men and women earn good money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:55 PM
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having some rando white collar job wont make you a "high value male".. and women wont throw themselves at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:54 PM
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because we don't date just any woman. no... most men cant find women who would date them... most men would date any women that wants do date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 01:48 PM
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"most guys" arent "non average".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 06:44 PM
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there is a wide range between "rich" and "completly broke"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:49 PM
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wealth isnt important if you dont use it to enchance your life. you could be a billionaire but it wont matter if you dont use it. so live a life thats worth living - and use your money to fuel that life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 09:06 PM
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there are tons of partnered people who arent hot tall and handsome...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:09 PM
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a golddigger isnt someone who wants "free dinners" there are gold diggers on every level - why would you stop at 6 figures if you could "dig" for a man who gifts you a condo or fancy jewelry?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 12:38 PM
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never in my life would i have thought a doctor could be a golddigger why? just because you earn a good salary doesnt mean you cant be a greedy ass who always wants more and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:45 PM
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a doctor can be a golddigger - and someone with a "bad" job can love you truly and deeply without gold digging.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:38 PM
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Because why do guys like Andrew Tate gets followers from all countries? female influencers also have fans from all countries..
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:08 PM
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im a man from germany - dont care for "low body count".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:07 PM
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bc beeing witty and funny shows that you are intelligent and a sharp thinker with social and emotional intelligence and humour. whats better than a funny women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 05:23 PM
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"objectively attractive" is like saying "that food looks objectively tasty but i dont like it".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:57 PM
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e. There are many men who are attractive, but not attractive to me. "attractive" is very subjecive if someone isnt attratve to you... he isnt attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:26 AM
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if you arent attracted to them - they arent attractive. "good looking" isnt "attractive".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:22 PM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:22 PM
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dogs sniff other dogs asses all the time.. do you think a dog is inferiour to the other just for checking another dog out and saying hello? either they like each other or they dont. no big deal. same for humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:20 PM
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bc most of these guy are nerds who think they can solve life with logic and formulas and play it like some complex strategy game.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:04 PM
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90% of those men are fat incel nerds. they arent dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:02 PM
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Capitalism convincing young women that they need to slave away in the labor market instead of living life is definitely systemic. young women AND men... neither gender should slave away in the labor market instead of living.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:00 PM
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would be a very cool "add on" to romance ebooks. you get to read the book and then interact with the characters as you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 12:23 PM
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you view women negatively who talk with their partner about what they like and dislike in bed ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 10:59 PM
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then you should figure out what you like and dislike ... thats part of becoming an adult person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 10:58 PM
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its your responsibilitycause you could have opened your mouth and talked about your needs and wants with your partner. if you dont do that - and he doesnt read your mind... yeah thats bad sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 10:24 PM
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communication is key. you shouldnt tell someone "hey mate you suck in bed"... but you can voice things you like and things you dont like. how should he learn if he thinks he satisfies you and you cum everytime?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 09:42 PM
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thats part of the problem. if you dont enjoy it whats the point of acting ? the men thinks he did good and you didnt orgasm.. communication is key - not acting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:48 PM
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they shouldnt do ALL the housework... just like the man. both work and both do the housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:37 PM
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I'm being tongue in cheek. Women are told our professional achievements aren't attractive to men so I'm saying that I have no need to bring anything to the table. dont you think people can bring very important things "to the table" that arent neither beauty nor money?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 05:34 PM
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i think thats true. romance is strong friendship + sexual attraction * long term potential aka same long term goals/values and the will to work on the connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 12:50 PM
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but thats something. beeing beautiful and feminine isnt "nothing".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 12:28 PM
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and thats true. but beeing pretty and agreeable isnt "nothing".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 12:27 PM
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they bring themselves - but its that what they bring to the table. youth, beauty, sex, care, ... a women who doesnt bring that to the table isnt gonna be very succesful datingwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 12:27 PM
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At the interview I say how much my time is worth, the person hiring you decides what your time is worth... you can say what you want. if they dont hire you your time isnt worth what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 08:44 PM
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When you are the top professional you can ask for the top dollar, because if they don't pay it, you will be hired by the end of the week by another company, a competitor. he isnt wrong... even if you earn top dollar... $500.000+ Bonus.. whatever - still earn that money just because you make your "owner" MORE money and you are a net profit for your company... and not because you are good at something or have experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 08:43 PM
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Stop telling men to get their shit together and say BOTH SEXES need to get their shit together. but why? tons of men go after those boring chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 08:41 PM
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how often did you call out a customer in a store who is rude to the staff... this year`?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:48 AM
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man acting like a jackass in public runs the risk of getting his ass kicked no man risks "getting his ass kicked" when he acts like a customer from hell in some rando store.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:29 AM
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tons of men also fit that description and are horrible customers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:21 AM
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Do you know how weird it would be to just walk up to people and start a convo. not weird at all? depends on HOW you start a convo...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 07:24 PM
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Nothing in life is free. tons of very good things in life are free. in fact most important things are free.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 07:22 PM
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just because you enjoy your life doesnt mean other people dont think you are boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 09:02 PM
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there are ton of well educated and smart nerds with good jobs out there - but they are boring as an office wall. a dime a dozen in most bigger cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:06 PM
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What about love? Love is just friendship+sex+longterm perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 02:53 PM
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It's judging a book by it's cover. you totaly CAN judge books by its cover. take a look at a bookstore. you will see that different genres tend to have very distinct cover styles. its the same with people. ofc you cant judge the quality of a book just because you had a look at the cover - but you can see a lot while just browsing book covers. , the way women try to read implications of a man's personality from photos, is just bizarre to me......and almost seems dangerous. its bizarre that you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 01:07 PM
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Women find genetically average men disgusting average men arent "disgusting" just bc women dont want to date some "average" person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:02 PM
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if love is unconditional - why dont you love everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:16 PM
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As in there is no criteria they have to meet in order to be loved or remain loved. so you would still love them if they cheat, talk shit about you and take your money?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:26 AM
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80% of men on this sub are teenagers and nerds - or teenage nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:39 PM
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Women and children provide value simply by existing as deemed by most of the world. women are valued for their beauty,sex and what they can provide for men... and not by "simply existing".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:38 PM
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i think most men dont want to be valued for how much MONEY they can provide. ofc everyone is valued if they provide a good time, fun, an interesting conversation, emotional security. etc etc - there are tons of stuff men can provide besides MONEY.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:37 PM
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By good I mean none promiscuous women who are submissive, all about the family, marriage and keeping the house clean. whats "Good" about that? i wouldnt touch such a woman with a ten feet pole.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:51 PM
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im german and having eye contact with a women isnt a "aggressive gesture" at all ... unless you stare at her for minutes without smiling and looking like a serial killer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:49 PM
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no it isnt... making eye contact and having friendly conversations is pretty normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:48 PM
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Men love women. men love women who make them feel good... no man would love an unattractive woman that makes his life miserable and isnt attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:56 PM
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Women aren't out with "chad" they're out enjoying their lives and careers. those women enjoy their lifes with attractive men. and why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:54 PM
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thats how you end up as a beta bucks paying provider with a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:44 PM
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there are other awkward guys who would befriend you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 05:52 PM
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I said most things in life you cannot control. you cant control most things - but you can control how you react to most things and how you position yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 05:48 PM
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ofc it is. or do you want to watch gay porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 12:27 PM
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tl;dr- Men don't need women anymore than women need men if that was the case - why so much angry guys who think they deserve women? why so much incel hate? men need women for love / affirmation / affiliation. to a very very very high degree. ofc you are right we dont "need" women for mundane things like cooking or cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 12:27 PM
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There’s not much incentive for women to approach if they’re being approached. if they are approached by the men they WANT to be approached by... if you want the men you want - you have to be active.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 12:08 PM
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exploitation necessary to aquire them and the fact that there's not enough for everyone. But now I'm not sure. These women seem innocent. It's like they just want to be seen in a good light and it's like they do anything for that, so the nice car, the bag, the makeup, the hairdo, the dress it's like all of that is rooted in a fear of just looking bad. you are right. most womens greatest fear is sticking out of the mainstream. the mainstream of our society is capitalism and consumerism - so a maj…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 05:18 PM
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I can bench press 35 lbs at most, if we’re doing 3 sets of 10, and with breaks in between each set. thats great! get yourself to the gym 3x a week and follow a decent routine and you will be surprised what you will bench after just one year.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:33 PM
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your looks are an invitation to get to know you better - to see if you match - your looks arent the only thing that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:21 PM
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A cold approach is like a big neon sign saying “I only want to use your body for sex” but why? if someone approached you to get to know you better - where is that e sign for only sex? i mean there isnt any chance for a guy who just saw you on the street to get to know you without cold approaching you? i see a lot of interesting women on the street. while they arent ugly i dont want to "use their body for sex" - i just think maybe they could be as interesting as they look like... on top of beeing…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:20 PM
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attraction is very subjective. you dont realy know if a women likes you until you tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:12 PM
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how can one have healthy friendships to other adults while lacking social skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 10:42 AM
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We can all agree that dating apps are bad, but some people here don't even have friendships, let alone the idea of how to make friends. if people cant make friends - maybe dating isnt the right priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 10:41 AM
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beeing 33 isnt an excuse to dress like some boring nerd.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:38 PM
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no. they arent "supposed" to like you at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:34 PM
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who cares? live isnt some competition to "experience it all". be happy. be satistfied. without that constant need to achieve MORE MORE MORE.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:31 PM
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There's nothing wrong with the ability to provide. depends on what you can provide? most of the time people only value you if you provide money... but ofc people can "provide" a lot more than just money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 03:23 PM
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Like how does that type of thing play into the evolution of caveman Era attraction? Humor is a very good indicator for intelligence and social intelligence.. you cant be witty and funny without beeing intelligent and sharp in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 03:18 PM
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yeah sure it happens. but its not very common. ofc men can look great till old age .. but most of them took care of themselves and made that happen - its not a law of nature that men pop out as attractiv silver foxes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:29 AM
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you are in your early 30s... you arent an "older man".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:59 PM
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most men arent transforming from ugly nerd to suave playboy. the majority of attractive older men were attractive younger men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:59 PM
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You're going to die one day. and every minute not feeling good is wasted in the long run.
/r/seduction09/10/23 01:36 PM
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The same i do now - enjoy my life. spend time with friends. spend time doing things i like and deem valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 03:29 PM
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a gymcel is more or less a boring nerd with a good body... beeing attractive is also a personality issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:08 PM
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yeah true. but on the other hand "emotionally vulnerable" is a spectrum thats pretty wide. starts with having normal conversations and ends with dumping all your trauma and shit on someone who doesnt have a chance to run away...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:48 PM
3

im still a man and i am emotionally vulnerable with my friends all the time - if they cant stand that.. they arent friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:41 PM
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Women would rather be alone rather than with a guy that she does not want. im a man ... and id rather be alone / with friends than with a woman i dont want... and i think most men feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:02 PM
1

every human beeing is "special"... there is no "average" man or woman when you look at personality and individual traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:58 PM
0

But this sort of “everyone is special” mentality is pointless. why? everyone IS special and we all should be proud and happy about that - even celebrate it a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:51 AM
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yes... not beeing fat is pretty easy. dont eat a ton of shit and exercise healthy... but most people dont want to do that over for the ret of their lifes... so they are fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:19 PM
3

thats media - not reality
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 10:49 AM
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It is extremely easy to get sex of some kind. as a woman. i understand your point and you arent wrong .. but getting regular sex with attractive women IS kind of an accompliishment as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 10:47 AM
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As clear as the title says it, being nice/accommodating, agreeable (or whatever you want to call it) with a woman, won’t increase your chances of getting her attracted to you once she already made the decision that she don’t like you, NOTHING will increase your chances if she already made the desicision. not beeing nice - and not beeing a kitten killing bad boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:42 AM
2

my "status" and my value as a person isnt connected to my education or whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 11:34 AM
1

for the majority of time women never "selected" who they have kids with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 11:33 AM
3

cause most men know they dont have attractive looks and want to cope that way
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 11:32 AM
2

Being hot means being rich. rich in attractive features. yeah. not money rich. i dont know why you are arguing? its a very very common trope and cliche. see the pool boy who fucks the millionaires wife. ofc its a cliche - but it happens every day. money wont make a woman wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 10:19 PM
1

they dont use "complex strategies"... they usualy are hot and confident with an lifestyle that attracts women. they dont care if you are poor or not if you are hot enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 10:05 PM
1

you can do a ton of cool stuff without much money... you dont need a ton of money to be interesting etc. also... you dont spend your money... whats "cool" about investing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 07:46 PM
0

If you are poor you attract no women. tons of broke men fuck women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 07:44 PM
1

as a man... i agree very much. tons of men arent desirable and just want a "traditional life" with a woman thats dependant on them and sees their man as some god given provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 07:33 PM
1

no
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 09:49 PM
1

i never saw other men as competition... and most guys dont see other guys that way in a normal enviroment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 09:49 PM
1

as an adult man i cant realy follow you... i am a part of society.. tons of men are valued and get smiles and kind words... people talk to men all the time. no one sees me as a annoyance and i am not disposable to everyone. dont you have friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 09:48 PM
1

if that would be true ... why are low class people and poor people having so many children?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 01:26 PM
2

she isnt ugly but i wouldnt say she is attractive to my eye. attraction is very very subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 07:44 PM
1

you mean the very very short period that almost destroyed the planet we live on?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:53 PM
2

"dont want" isnt eugenics. eugenics is organized and top down.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:32 PM
1

but who decides what "smart" looks like?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:31 PM
1

that isnt gendered ... every human has an intrinsic value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:56 AM
1

Most of them do not understand this. cause it isnt true at all... your value lies within you... you dont have to prove anything to anybody to be "worthy".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 08:44 PM
3

Friends come and go in life, same as romantic partners... real friends dont go - and that are the only friends who matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:50 PM
11

Women can pursue their passions if they dont have a 9/5 job. man also can do that...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:54 AM
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yes thats true. whats healthy for person a is too much for person b dating itself is so subjective ... and bc of that a ton of those redpill nerds cant realy undertsand it cause you cant make some clear "rules".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 11:35 AM
1

working too much and identifying with your "hard work ethic".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 11:21 AM
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Why do men whine about us requesting something so obvious? because its very subjective what a "healthy level of emotion" is and how it looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 11:20 AM
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Very sad that happened to you, but most men are not like that, yeah,.. but you never know which guy is and which isnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 05:34 PM
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you realize that you also get checked if you have a private plane?` you cant just drive onto the driveway with your suitcases.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:02 PM
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you dont have to be well traveled to be interesting. i never said that. and not everyone who goes to the gym is a nerd. but when i am in the gym (and im there quite often) i see a lot of guys who seem like swollen nerds. gym alone wont make you interesting and good at getting woman.
/r/seduction15/08/23 06:27 PM
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ofc gym has a ton of benefits. but beeing a boring gymnerd wont get you much women.
/r/seduction15/08/23 06:20 PM
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you dont "have to do" anything... you dont have to workout if your life is interesting enough.,.. of course "travel" isnt the only route to an interesting life. but beeing a gymnerd also isnt.
/r/seduction15/08/23 04:23 PM
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isnt "grind, hustle, work hard, yadda yadda" the blueprint for live in most capitalistic societies? i think you are right - we dont have to follow ANY Blueprints. we build our own way. if you want to be average - be average. if you want to give 100% at something - do that. do what you want ... and not what someone tells you you have to want. including anything "self improvement" related.
/r/TheRedPill14/08/23 08:47 PM
1

of course. most people are "mediocre". if only "not mediocre" people would date life would be pretty boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 10:56 AM
1

you realize that muscles are soft when they arent flexed?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:56 PM
12

happily single?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:54 PM
2

why? a guy working 20h and sleeping on a matress could be a very interesting and attractive and genuine good guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:48 PM
1

fit and wealthy is super generic and bland - exactly what tons of women dislike. fit and wealthy + interesting personality is where the magic is. but interesting personality+lifestyle always beats fita and wealthy boring nerd.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:54 PM
1

for most of the nerds here any guy doing stuff drug/alcohol/party related is a "bad boy".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:43 PM
1

Also everyone eventually gets old and ugly. Looks are transitory. doesnt that contradict the old red pill mantra "men age like fine wine" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:05 PM
1

like i hardly see them struggling and that goes against all TRP teachings. you could argue that these people are attractive "bad boys" with a strong frame who life live on their own terms. that makes them attractive to a certain kind of woman. Red Pill always trys to push the "make lots money and lift" type of lifestyle... but in fact there are tons of attractive lifestyles...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:02 PM
1

Most women have no interest in hiking/exploring nature in the slightest what? tons of women enjoy hiking and doing stuff in the nature...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:00 PM
0

same. as long as she is happy and can finance her own life - i dont care what she works. who careS?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 10:42 AM
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more or less. yes if a woman is attractive looking she doesnt have to "do" anything to be attractive. she IS attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:56 PM
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because thats just not true. women hunted like the men hunted... anything else would just be dumb in a world where every scrap of food counted. there are lots of evidence for female hunters and warriors
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 10:46 AM
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Men evolved to go out and hunt and bring back their game to their tribe. The more they brought back the more valuable they were. Women did not evolve to do this. ofc they did... women also hunted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:36 PM
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it sounds pretty desperate to pay her everything. you could have asked her if she wants to join you... and pay for herself.
/r/seduction02/08/23 10:50 AM
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Just saying that I heard it in many versions. cause many men do it... there are tons of men doing exactly that kind of brutal numbers game strategy every weekend at some greasy bar arround the world.
/r/seduction02/08/23 10:36 AM
11

you should work as a dog breeder.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:00 PM
3

yeah but arent these 2 different things? getting a degree to get access to professional men is another strategy than getting a degree cause you think that will make you more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 11:57 AM
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he effort it takes to achieve a level of long term happiness and fulfillment as a male (hell, I think in some ways this is even applicable to women) IS tantamount to obsession as a male... thats bullcrap. its only an obsession if you only count societies generic and simple view of "success" as real success and fulfilment. you can be very happy and fulfilled if you arent a lawyer with a sixpack...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:15 PM
2

some may change - some stay the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:01 PM
3

more or less the same yes. be loved, be respected, have the same goals and values, have fun and be kind to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:26 PM
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So reading a book or visiting another part of town makes you "living an interesting life?" could be a part of beeing a open and interesting person. yes. just because you read some random book you wont be an interesting person...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:38 PM
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their money attracts women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 04:16 AM
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yes but if you are a boring nerd you will be a boring nerd with a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 04:21 PM
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stop beeing boring? you are 20... start living an interesting life!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 12:15 PM
12

dont we all crave adventure and excitement ... more or less?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 12:15 PM
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you just get it? beeing an interestng and attractive man isnt "earning" something. you just get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 09:01 PM
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everyone deservers affection.. you dont have to "earn" it... and you cant "earn" it. if you go to the gym you dont "earn" the affection of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:51 PM
3

... regardless of how he treats her or other didnt you read "social skills" in the list above?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:53 PM
1

but women historically chose men for being good providers. historically women very seldom choose men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:56 AM
4

a woman wanting a man to "work hard" is an instant red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:32 PM
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everything that doesnt requieres a lot of effort to maintain ... requiers a ton of effort to start - and lots and lots of failures. everyone who will tell you its easy peasy to start an profitable online business is trying to sell you something.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:30 PM
2

as a man that would be my ideal life... having lots of free time... always enough money... no tress? but i wouldnt be a provider for someone living that life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:28 PM
2

and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:43 AM
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in a financial position where you are in the top 20% of your country financially (10 or even 1 preferably) so you say that 80% of the men in any country shouldnt date... ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:42 AM
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most men also want to feel wanted and validated during sex... it isnt the "sex" feeling per se - its the validation that men crave.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:00 PM
1

Just wear a button-down shirt with pants that aren’t cargo shorts and some nice shoes. Neat haircut. Done. not realy. you described an absolutly boring cookie cutter look. that isnt "good wardrobe".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:50 PM
1

Example: you murder some guy because you BELIEVE he's a reptilian alien in disguise. The jury, judge and prosecutors don't give a shit about what you believe. that also works backwards - so it isnt a real argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 09:56 PM
1

if you think real men dont wear heels you dont know any real men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 09:55 PM
1

A man who is tall, wealthy, masculine, etc would factually be better than me. no. he would be taller and more wealthy ... but he wouldnt be "better" than you. you have a big mindset problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 09:39 PM
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fine men can age like fine wine - but like wine.. not every wine is a FINE wine. many wines DONT age well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 07:59 PM
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Attraction causes a biological reaction a bilogical reaction hasnt to be uncomfortable...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:02 PM
1

Most men just think they have to "work hard"... many many men dont have any sens of self-value or self-esteem when you cut out "work".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:54 PM
4

most men watching incest porn arent into the "story" - they just watch it cause the action looks hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:22 PM
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but why do they fantasize about something so cruel?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:19 PM
3

and the man who approaches you? all he has to say is "hi" and lie a little? people who lie and manipulate always exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 09:14 PM
2

i never owned a webcam site.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:39 PM
3

why is it a "freebie" if you just approach a man? you still have to vet him. you just make the first step. whats the difference if he would approach you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:38 PM
1

Which is unfortunate since men are told to tamp down their sexuality dont belive everything society tells you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:12 PM
2

and he was a minor himself... he wasnt some grown man that beat up a kindergarten child.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:11 PM
3

and doesn't struggle with getting women he dated poor webcam models that were working from him...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:07 PM
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its a big myth that women didnt hunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:32 PM
2

they regularly marry 18-22 year old women to 35yo men who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 02:20 PM
1

you know absolutely nothing about this person other than their appearance. You don't know if she shares similar beliefs to you, you don't know if she's a good person, and in all likelihood, she probably already have a boyfriend. and because of that you use your mouth after approaching to check for those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 10:22 PM
1

isnt that the whole point of the red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 08:01 PM
1

whats its shifting to then? an interesting personality, good sex, good communication, good looks, being a partner. no one cares for "protection and physical labour". you are right - but men can be so much more. just as women arent valued for "reproduction" - but because of many other things nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:57 PM
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no you arent ... tons of people who work have hobbies,friends, go to events,bars,clubs... whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:45 PM
1

i am 100% not useful for society but i am not bothered that someone will "get rid of me". touch some grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:49 PM
2

You should be worried about being necessary. Because if you are not necessary, those in power have to lose nothing from getting rid of you. Thats a sick mindset. where do you live? some cyberpunk dystopia?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:21 PM
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value and beeing an useful tool are two very different things. humans arent a thing - you contradicted yourself in your first 6 words.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:19 PM
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tons of very expensive and very cool things arent "needed". im not a thing - but im not a tool either. tools are needed... and if they arent needed they go back to the shed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:13 PM
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i dont wanna be needed. tools are needed. not beeing "needed" is more good than bad for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:09 PM
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art. passion. non conformity. an interesting life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:08 PM
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burning man is very expensive... most of the people living that lifestyle have pretty good jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:08 PM
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not realy. as long as you are happy and financial stable - who cares if you are "status climbing"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:06 PM
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ofc. or do you see ALL people over 25 dressing like the same boring office drone? even as a "stable business man" you can dress interesting or be part of a subculture.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:05 PM
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you realize that "women and children first" is a cliche? "everyone for itself" was the reality... and bc of that there arent 90% surviving women after shipwrecks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 12:30 PM
2

Look at Tiara Apice. She is 20ish and she could marry millionaire Chad if she did not choose to be an OF girl. she looks like a second class stripper from the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:31 PM
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If he donates his time to charity and orphans that means that he is a good man. thats very very simple thinking... lots of people who are deep into charity are very bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:30 PM
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i dont want to date a woman thats over 6ft. but they are perfectly normal people and nothing is wrong with them. its just not attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:19 PM
12

not wanting a relationship with someone - and saying someone is a bad person/woman are two very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 05:40 PM
1

of course they do. maybe not "broke" like homeless broke. but you dont need to earn a lot of money ... if you are a very very attractive, charming and interesting man... and yes thats very very seldom.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:27 PM
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for most of that time men and women worked side by side. the "men is the provider" lifestyle is quite young.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:16 PM
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I doubt it, because what possible reason could she have for being there? dancing,music, a night out with friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 09:03 PM
1

ads, donations, even subcriptions... it can be open source AND commercial at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 09:02 PM
1

no one has to "earn" a fulfilling life. everyone deserves that. but that doesnt mean that its as simple as "do x" get y".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:59 PM
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a wife isnt some kind of "reward" you get if you reach a highscore in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:47 PM
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your interests mattered way more than your carreer... career itself doesnt matter. its the lifestyle, interests and passion that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:17 PM
3

going home with a strange man in a country you dont know doesnt have to be a "nice bed"... could also be the last bed you ever see alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:15 PM
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cause they like them?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:13 PM
4

both isnt very common. most people, like you said, prefer to use hostels/hotels or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:12 PM
3

we dont talk about homeless people. we talk about travel. and even for homeless people it may be better on their own than with people they dont know... exchanging sexual
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:57 PM
0

tons of female beggars over here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:59 AM
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totaly is. you should try it. sleeping under bridges is pretty nice if you are backpacking. most of the times its dry and no one is bothering you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:55 AM
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Most "influencers" who present their life of luxury, have no big audience and no fame. then they arent influencers.. they just LARPing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:55 AM
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being an influencer is a source of income grandpa.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:39 AM
2

You will be sleeping under a bridge somewhere. sounds way better than sleeping at a randos place you met at a bar...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:38 AM
1

they have? at least in germany the parental leave is "parental leave" not "mothers leave"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 03:47 PM
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Yes, men like women who are attractive. Yes, women like men who can provide. women like attractive man who can provide. dont make the mistake tons of nerds make on the internet. having a great carreer and a ton of money WONT MAKE YOU ATTRACTIVE.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 01:04 PM
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They're not doing it for the money. They're doing it for the love of the profession and far more importantly; due to their nature, which is that they have an immense desire to save lives. thats very rose tinted... tons of doctors do it cause its a high status and highly paid carreer
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 12:53 PM
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and men mostly want big breasted blonde supermodels... what peopel "want" isnt what people really want and get.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 12:51 PM
9

who wants a virgin wife? thats insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:21 AM
1

fun and beeing understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 08:06 PM
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beeing rich isnt attractive. but beeing rich and attractive is very attractive. money and the possibility to afford an interesting lifestyle can multiply your "attractivenes" ... but if you look like quasimodo there isnt much to multiply.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 08:03 PM
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very bad advice. even if you suceed you end up as a fat loser without social skills.. but some money. if you fail you have neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:50 PM
3

true words. there isnt a reward in working your life away. beeing contempt with a frugal life is king. /r/simpleliving is the key to happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:31 PM
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the person who owns your job.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:07 PM
22

why has it to be "hard" work? not just work?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:06 PM
62

social conditioning. "hard work" is sold and marketed as a virtue... society values hard work... and women want to be accepted by society. but who benefits most from "hard work" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:04 PM
63

why does anybody want to be "hardworking"... unless you are self employed "hard work" gets you nothing... and even then its way better to work smart than hard. we should stop puting "hard work" on that pedestal
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:01 PM
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yes and no. it doesnt matter how "high" her place on the ladder is - but it matters in which field she is. a woman with a PhD in something i find boring wont get more attractive just because she is "succesful". but a woman with a career in something i find interesting will get more interesting if she is passionate about field.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 12:49 PM
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very inaccurate. "the world" is more than the buildings and infrastructure of the last 200 years... which, yes, was mostly built by men... but "the world" aka human civilization is much much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 09:45 PM
1

why? most of them look pretty average. starting a stream and becoming known to a niche audience is possible for a lot of pretty average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 09:29 PM
1

for an "average dude" yeah. but you dont have to stay average. also life without "instant visceral attraction" is pretty good too... work on your charisma und an interesting lifestyle and you also will attract woman (no that doesnt mean a ton of money).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 12:03 PM
1

how can a bland potato without spices taste like a realy tasty menu. answer: it cant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:02 PM
1

there isnt a healthy dose of meth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:33 PM
3

im a man in my thirties ... i aint traumatized and i dont live in hell. touch some grass... and maybe touch yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:35 PM
2

but if we get a drug to lower libido while keeping all other benefits of testosterone, men will finally be free. the drug is called "grow up and get out of your teenage years". most men 20+ arent so horny that they cant have a normal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:27 PM
1

The bit about "having a meaningful purpose" just means figure out how to make a lot of money. The not at all. having a meaningful purpose and following it with passion is way more important for a fulfulling life than a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:09 PM
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And he didn't want to stop being "too nice," he said it's just the way he was. Don't be this man!! but why? if he is ok with all that? where is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:59 PM
2

but why is "too nice" and "boring" the same? arent that 2 very different shoes? a boring person doesnt have to be nice - and a nice person doesnt have to be boring?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:59 PM
1

do you have some sources for those "1 match per week is average" data?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 10:57 PM
0

do you have a source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 08:25 PM
1

im perfectly average. but maybe people with 1match per week arent average or have realy shitty profilepics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:26 PM
0

im perfectly average and tried tinder last year. your location may be a dealbreaker ... 1 match per week isnt the average male experience at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:24 PM
-2

yeah i actually tried tinder ... 1match per week is very very low.l
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:23 PM
1

and by success you mean money i suppose?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:49 PM
-4

that isnt the average ... even for an average male. 1 match per week is very very low... or you live very rural.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:36 PM
1

yeah. but when she can pay her bills... you dont have to support her. i dont care what kind of job she has to reach that level.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 08:36 PM
12

using peoples weakness and manipulating people for monetary gain isnt "smart"... even if its working.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 07:35 PM
1

but I can't remember any male romance novel writers. i bet many just use an female alias name.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 07:00 PM
1

I'd honestly find it very strange if a man earning 30-50k was not embarrassed about his girlfriend working in McDonald's. who cares? as long as she is happy and an pay her own bills? maybe she has some other passions and hobbies in her life that are more important than a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:22 PM
1

I'd advise all men to do the same. why? im a man and i dont care for a womens career. as long as she is happy and contempt - and can pay her own bills she can work whatever she wants to. i would even say - the less she works and the less she is focused on career the better. life>job.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:20 PM
2

We all know looks define sexual success. yes of course ... do you want an ugly girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:51 PM
10

What kind of incentives are there for them to stick around either in this country or this life life is great even if you arent married ...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:50 PM
2

most men dont wear suits to "flaunt status to other men" - they do it because they have to. and most men in the gym to to the gym to get better chances with women ... or because they like lifting and the health benefits... and not to "show status to other men".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 10:48 PM
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its also the most boring and "default" one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:18 PM
1

and the world doesnt care for the human birth rate ... we are 8billion humans... thats more than enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:12 PM
19

people dont sub to onlyfans girls because they loook good - its the dream of a beautiful and sexy girl knowing that you exist. porn is a dime a dozen - you wouldnt have to pay money for that. its the "girl next door" experience. cant have that with AI
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:04 PM
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that would destroy them pretty fast ... and would open the market for something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 05:50 PM
1

but what is "looks hot" if it isnt sexually?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 02:53 AM
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also works the other way... he "gives" her his penis and she "takes" it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 06:18 PM
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having kids doesnt have an impact at all. there are 8billion people on earth... every child is just a drop in the ocean of mankind - imagine all the great inventors,explorers,politicans,businessmen,etcetc - do you remember their children?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 05:49 PM
0

yes ofc you are right that because he is famous a lot more women find him attractive - but that doesnt mean that starbucks harry styles would be an incel who wouldnt get girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 08:42 PM
0

You think if Harry Style's wore his bell bottoms to his barista job at starbucks that women would still throw themselves at him? Of course not. of course they would. not that many... but ofc there would be lots of women being attracted to him. there are lots of attractive guys working normal jobs who slay... especially when you are younger
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 08:30 PM
1

you can be a beta and earn millions - and an alpha male and earn minimum wage. isnt connected at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 06:37 PM
1

do you think your mom would like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:32 PM
3

So every man in human history is abnormal. every man in history was attracted to 16 year old girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 08:56 PM
2

So nature is abnormal? parts of nature are abnormal in a society. yes. nature is raping,killing and murdering ... is that normal and ok to do in a healthy human society?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 08:55 PM
1

cause that is the madonnas faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 08:16 PM
3

so be a whore wo has her own resources - best of both worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 08:12 PM
3

Do your friends help you pay your bills? Clean your house? when i shared a flat with friends - yes ofc we did.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 10:38 PM
10

stop overthinking. real life isnt some game where you can compare the stats of different character builds.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:52 PM
2

would be great
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 09:16 PM
1

you realize that 50% of DNA comes from women? and evolution also applies to women? also for 99% of history women never "choose" anything related to having children or dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 04:05 PM
4

A 5/10 multimillionaire beats a 10/10 guy making minimum wage. not at all. unless you want a women thats after your money and fucks the poor 10/10 yoga teacher while you are at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:09 PM
0

there is no "looksmatch" - life isnt some computer game with character stats that you could compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:43 PM
1

Modern conditions have deteriorated to the point that women are forced to work and to carry children and usually do chores. women did this for 99.9% of history. the period where women were at home and obedient housewifes is very very very short.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 08:36 PM
5

Most of the handsome, top dawgs at my auditing firm are single; yes... but are they single cause they dont find anyone? or are they single because they want to be single? vice versa... to you think the "unmotivated associates" are with the beautiful women cause these women think they are sexy and hot? or bc they want someone who finances their "mommy and children" dream ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:53 PM
1

Personality is one thing: Cheap. It requires no effort, its common, literally everybody has one yeah.. but not everyone has an interesting personality. everybody has a height too... but not everyone is tall. everyone has a face... but not everyone has an attractive face
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:26 PM
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yeah but most people trade long periods of freedom for money... to get a period of freedom when they have gray hair and a saggy ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:13 PM
1

If he is not 6ft: Next. If he doesn't make 100k: Next. if he isn't groomed: Next. The list is endless. there are tons and tons of men who dont fit those criteria with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:53 PM
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Idk. Those all seem pretty inspirational to me. I bet if I told you they were quotes by Maya Angelou or Ruth Bader Ginsberg, you’d be all over it. Lol. cause they are generic bs ... those quotes have been said multiple times by tons of people. its just fancy generic advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 05:03 PM
3

if you ate very good pizza for a few years frozen pizza isnt kinda good anymore... sure you wont starve.. but it wont bring you any joy. same with good women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 11:36 PM
2

Take men. Do we need a woman to have confidence in order to have sex with her? sex with a confident women is way better than with some meek unconfident starfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 11:29 PM
3

Muscles serve a purpose, they increase potential to do harm to perpetrators, they serve to protect the woman. an unconfident man wont protect you. an unconfident man wont have financial success etc etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 11:26 PM
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you can have ambition in many other areas of life that arent a career. for me personaly having ambition in a career is highly unattractive in men and women.. unless its your own thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 11:24 PM
1

beeing a breadwinner never was a "status symbol". for a short period of time it just was the norm. and as a man i think - its good that those times are over. why should i be a "breadwinner" - and a women just does nothing? no wai.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 07:05 PM
2

To obtain a degree to you need to submit to someone else's view. It's a highly structured, directed way of learning. You need to be controlled and studious. Masculine men don't do well with authority or imposed order in general. on the other hand the military is seen as very "masculine".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 06:13 PM
1

if it would be so easy why arent there apps that could predict it or any other form of match-making thats always succesful`?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:20 PM
1

the AI algorithms they train can deduce people’s preferences for content (because it’s predictable) its much more predicable if somone will like dog or football content than it is to predict if two people are attracted to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:37 PM
1

Women are content being single most arent and thats perfectly ok. and most women are avarage amys ... so they pair perfectly with average adam.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:30 PM
1

its less than you think bro. step outside your bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:42 PM
1

the rest of the world isnt valuing women for "chastity and fertility" outside very religious circles and niches... they exist - but arent the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:37 PM
1

maybe that is part of the problem ... why is it a problem to hug a coworker? we arent machines.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:31 PM
2

This phenomenon is so pervasive, crossing time and cultures, that I wish there was a term for it. Fear
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:18 PM
2

lots of men dont "value chastity" - they just dont want that women have a life of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:04 PM
2

no one outside very religious niches values women for their "chastity and fertility" step outside your bubble bro
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:19 PM
1

tons of women are attracted to broke hot men... of course most wont have a relationship with those men. but who cares. thats what the semi-attractive nice guy with the good job is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:01 PM
1

a libertarian mom blogger who #lovesbitcoin. noice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:36 PM
1

please explain why women are a "specialized tool" for raising children and men arent?` that whole "mother" and "father" thing isnt natural law - its a cultural concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:17 PM
1

for what reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:21 PM
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But if a mother is someone who was there the first 18 years of the kid life, caring and teaching the kid how to be an amazing person a man also could do that... nothing only a woman could do. the only thing men cant do is giving birth and breastfeeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:41 PM
1

thats a incel cope and revenge fantasy. there are "chads" at every age and in every socioeconomic level.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 06:24 PM
1

He does have to be because part of the grain of society is niceness. would be nice to live in such a society... but look arround you. if that would be true the majority of people would be a "bad boy" of some kind?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 05:53 PM
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a bad boy is rebelious and goes against the grain of society - he can be an asshole - but he doesnt have to be an asshole. there are tons of "nice guys" who are assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 05:45 PM
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a "bad boy" isnt an asshole. its a cope to say that every bad boy is a low class asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 05:42 PM
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Even if they don't admit it, a lot of women clearly do like the "bad boy" - someone who is highly confident, unpredictable, and a risk taker but oftentimes unstable, not usually ambitious in career and education, not known for intelligence, and prone to violence thats too broad and too cliche. there are "bad boys" aka rebelious people who dont care for rules in every niche and every class. there are "bad boy" investment bankers and bad boy homeless - and "lawful" homeless. a "bad boy" isnt somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 05:39 PM
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or maybe its a very old dilemma and society just never took care
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:23 PM
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Traditionnally, men weren't chosen based on their looks but based on status and character. Traditionnally women never "choose" her man based on anything - cause most of time women hadnt anything to say in that departmeent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:22 PM
1

I can't believe that this is the generation(...) dude you are just 5 years older ... you and him are in the same generation. you sound like an old grumpy man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:03 PM
0

yes but he is attracted. money doesnt attract a women. she just wants the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:29 PM
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cause beauty and money isnt the same? a women isnt attracted to a man with money - she wants his money. on the other hand a man IS attracted to a beautiful woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:38 PM
1

yeah i know how you feel i also sit between 2 groups of people. but you dont need one person to fulfil EVERY need and match every box on your list.
/r/seduction09/10/22 05:28 PM
1

depends on your niche. what do you like? where are people who like the same? what do they do? what related things to they do?
/r/seduction09/10/22 05:14 PM
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the last 2 are nice for you - but not realy interesitng the first 2 are quite interesting - to a certain subset of people. you have to find those people.
/r/seduction06/10/22 11:40 PM
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you cant "grind" yourself to love and a good job wont make you realy attractive to women. your attitude is toxic. success with women isnt some bonus you get for checking all boxes on your "good life to do " list.
/r/seduction06/10/22 05:39 PM
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you sound boring and "nice" you have hobbies and a job? noice. good boy. but what makes you unique or interesting?
/r/seduction06/10/22 05:28 PM
1

we never tried it... greedy leaders told the masses they tried it. human nature isnt greed etc... its collaboration.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 08:27 PM
1

just because you call yourself communist and do something doesnt mean you are a communist. those people were robber barons and left wing authoritarians.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 08:11 PM
0

there never was a time in history were everything was distribubuted fairly... unless maybe 100.000 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 08:04 PM
1

beeing an artist is attractive... its a very very old trope that artists get the girls - and if you look arround its very true. ofc there are tons of other factors. but a lawyer isnt very exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 08:03 PM
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depends... tons of amateur musicians gets lot of women. status matters- but status is very flexible and dynamic. you dont need to be 1% worldwide - just be good in your local community.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:07 PM
1

man was not intended to be/do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 12:09 AM
1

If a war breaks out the exact same thing as Ukraine will happen. tons of ukrainian men flew to safe parts of the country... and why not? its their right. there isnt a mandatory draft in ukraine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:05 PM
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Every single man in the world lives through every single day, fully knowing that during an emergency, they lose all human rights and the government can force them to die for the country. as a 36yr old man ... not realy. i never think of stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:00 PM
0

if we dont have a rite of passage today - why are there attractive and unattractive men? wouldnt that mean that every man is unattractive cause of lacking rite of passage?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:20 PM
1

Bullshit like "spiritual" and "metaphysical" has no place in the actual world. i bet you are fun at parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:57 PM
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cause the male gaze was the "norm" for the last hundreds of years - maybe in a few generations we will have a more differenciated view.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:31 AM
3

yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:26 AM
3

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/slightly-blighty/201508/why-high-heels-make-women-more-attractive tldr: “[A] woman's walk [is perceived] as more attractive when she's wearing heels, due to the heels changing lumbar curvature, exaggerating the chest and hips, and increasing pelvic tilt,” explains an article on PsyPost.12.05.2022
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:02 AM
2

you know what "attractive" means verbatim?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:37 PM
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yeah but what is "good" - mostly what is considered "looks good" for women is equal to "looks sexy for men" so when women say they want to "feel good" they are slaves to the male gaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:34 PM
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I talk to a lot of guys regularly from mostly Europe. Usually between the ages of 18-40. The younger ones go out to clubs and bars and try to have some hook-ups to hope they turn into relationship. When they get a little bit older they tend to calm down. Some of them are in relationships. Some aren't. as an average man from europe - thats pretty spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 12:08 PM
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as an average man with average friends ... yes i belive thats pretty accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 12:07 PM
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yes it could be - but she mentions lawyers,doctors and finance ... people who make lot of money. she doesnt seem to be interested in "intelligent and educated" men who dont make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:57 PM
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why do you say "intelligent and educated" when you mean "makes a lot of money" ? the least thing they look for are women who want them because they make a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:47 PM
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"focus on youself" just means improve yourself.. work on yourself. find a way to be a better you or to be ok with beeing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 12:26 PM
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"focus on themselves" doesnt mean you dont go outside ... it does mean to just focus on yourself and your well beeing - and not be a desperate simp that whose only point of beeing is to find a random woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 12:25 PM
1

if that would be true ... only ambitious and hard working men would have kids... which is clearly not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:53 PM
1

Honestly it's not the financial part that its hard, it's the bureaucracy and legal part that is hard. depends on where you are from its not very hard to travel... tons of countries grant their visa on arrival for US citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:43 PM
1

to fake the image of a lifestyle.
/r/seduction04/08/22 04:28 PM
1

How do people find relationships? talk to the people you take home from the bar ? see them sober.
/r/seduction29/07/22 07:16 PM
6

Just because you do something thats easy for you doesnt make you a bad person - and vice versa - just because you "leveled up" doesnt make you a good person.
/r/seduction29/07/22 06:05 PM
8

you shouldnt "hit on chicks" - you should socialize with women as real, interesting and funny persons and see where it gets you.
/r/seduction29/07/22 11:37 AM
1

cause you werent good enough. “I can’t wait till our 2nd date.” wasnt the truth.
/r/seduction27/07/22 02:47 PM
1

yes of course. as a man thats a big problem too. they are just plain and boring - just like many men.
/r/seduction25/07/22 10:26 AM
2

yes. im a man and always feel bad for other men who think they always have to be strong and "masculine". fuck that. beeing authentic is masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 10:11 PM
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I kinda disagree. Masculinity is fundamentally based around conflict with other men, as a man - thats bullshit. if men realy think they need to compete with other men... besides sports - they deserve to be called toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 10:09 PM
1

people with passions and an somewhat unusual life... people who dont follow the cookie cutter path of life. funny people who are nice to be arround. people who have a ton of storys - people you can drink a few beers with and it wont get boring. thats pretty interesting for me - and tons of people arent like that. and thats pretty sad cause i think its very realistic to be "interesting". you dont need to be a skydiving emergency room doctor to be interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 05:25 PM
1

of course you can. its pretty easy cause so many men are just plain and boring.
/r/seduction24/07/22 03:56 PM
0

water is wet - more news at 12
/r/seduction24/07/22 03:51 PM
1

because thats very subjective and differs from person to person?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 10:36 AM
1

Regular life is pretty boring day to day. pretty sad isnt it? life hasnt to be boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 10:35 AM
1

sad life isnt it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 10:33 AM
0

its sad to think that life itself isnt interesting - cause its the only time you will be alive. and thinking that skydiving makes someone interesting is just the wrong way of thinking - you dont need to project some cool and interesting outer shell - BE interesting... live an interesting life. and im not a women im a man... and so many dudes are just plain and boring. ofc no one wants them if they arent rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:58 PM
1

as a man - thats a lot of bullshit. if i have the feeling i need to "earn" a woman she wont see me again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:36 PM
3

charisma and an interesting life that thats somewhat unique and not "work,gym,sleep and play call of duty"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:27 PM
1

why should women be attracted to you if you have some mundane job? because you have a job? women are attracte to people with no or bad jobs all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:26 PM
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Finding a woman that wants you for anything besides money is insanely difficult haha. only difficult if you are boring cookie cutter type personality who isnt interesting or unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:23 PM
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Women already make it clear that they’re disgusted by the vast majority of men physically. they arent "disgusted" - they just dont think that normal men arent that attractive physically... and they are right. doesnt mean that they cant be good partners and be attractive bc they are (whatever).. funny,witty,charismatic,interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:44 PM
1

are you drawing for yourself or are you an artist - doing exhibitions and talking bout your art?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 07:43 PM
4

musician.. everything art related
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:58 PM
1

yes. thats where personal branding and styling comes into play. but the hipster dude in a pool .. is just a regular thin dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 11:46 PM
1

a regular thin dude isnt in good physical shape. he is in regular physical shape. regular dude doesnt need to roid up - but if he goes to the gym 3x per week or does any sport he will level up from "regular shape" to "good shape". combine that with some sort of personal styling or personal branding - and "regular guy" will be a pretty impressive guy - even more impressive if he is a doctor...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 11:39 PM
1

then he isnt in "good physical shape".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 11:15 PM
1

he would NOT be pursued just because of his genetics. "good physical shape" and intelligent enough to be a doctor sound like pretty good "genetics".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 10:09 PM
1

It was also illegal and completely against the church. there were long long stretches of time before "church". abortion was pretty normal in many epochs and cultures. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_abortion#Greco-Roman_world
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:19 PM
1

You can't fake confidence. you totaly can fake confidence. thats the secret of adulthood ... we are all faking it sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:15 PM
3

If this has blown up in his face (and it really could have) it would have destroyed his psyche. if your "psyche is destoryed" when you get rejected by some girl in a bar .. you have more problems than that rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:14 PM
1

its survival of the fittest - and not survival of the ones who cry the loudest how unfair the world is. all those incel guys just need to touch some grass and stop thinking that women owe them their attention - and that women arent the only important thing in a happy live.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:09 PM
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it is their problem. they will end up poor and/or in prison. im a man and not a women and i dont have much compassion for whiny incel guys who think women owe them something and their life is worthless without a mommy bangmaid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:30 PM
1

its mens problem if they are unfilfilled and dangerous... touch some grass, play sports, use your energy to do things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:39 PM
1

i dont have to admire someone to respect him - every human deserves respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:24 AM
1

yeah i respect a ton of people - and many arent "succesful".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:18 AM
1

most people arent admirable... even "succesful" ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:58 AM
1

A successful decent respectful dude who is above the minimum threshold of your preferred attractiveness is beta? everyone who has to be "successful" aka has money to be succesful with women is a beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:57 AM
1

I’d like to add, the more successful a man gets, the more confident he becomes. not realy. you can be very succesful at gaming - but not very confident in a club. also you could be very confident in a club - but not very succesful in a job or you could be very succesful in your job but very timid in a club. reality isnt that black or white.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:56 AM
1

I don't know what's ironic about it. I'm pansexual and don't respect women who are failures at life, either lol thats your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:53 AM
1

yeah but you dont have to be "successful" to be respected.... every human deserves respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:52 AM
1

why isnt your goal in life to become a farmer?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:43 PM
2

do you think europe has better genes than the USA?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:21 PM
2

a society doesnt have genetics... and just because you have "good genes" doesnt make you a good human beeing... nor a good society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:11 PM
18

dont know any man that does this. only difference is that he wants to spend time with women #2 outside of the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:02 PM
2

but they dont "have to be married" in 2022. they want to be married... and they want to be married to rich guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 08:38 PM
1

of course did they understand procreation. but you dont need monogamy for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:58 PM
2

who "recorded" primitive tribes tens of thousand years ago? nobody. but even since recoreded history started ~4000 years ago we have a ton of evidence for polygamy... and monogamy... and everything in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:22 PM
1

Basic history shows us that monogamy existed in humans long before Christianity was a thing. yeah bit non monogamy also existed... and even more than monogamy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:05 PM
2

there were tons of non monogamy tribes before christianity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:05 PM
1

there wasnt marriage "hundreds of thousands of years" ago. marriage is a quite new concept in the history of humankind... we do that stuff not longer than 3500-4000 years
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:02 PM
2

the french revolution in itself had very long periods of tyranny and brutality... including a ton of "masculine men" fighting for positions of power and fucking over other people. you dont need monarchy to have tyranny. look at our world. tons of conflicts - and usualy there are "masculine men" fighting for scraps of power. also "the dark ages" is a myth. the middle ages werent so dark...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:33 PM
3

the french revolution didnt end tyranny in france... maybe have a look at some history books..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:10 PM
6

no not at all. tyranny comes from submission authority and masculine men are drawn to authority... of course those "masculine men" dont want to be the submissive part in the tyranny... they wanna be the dominant part - and if the "tyranny" will give them positions of power - many many "masculine men" are very happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:09 PM
3

masculine men are the only defence against any tyranny, sadly that is very wrong. most "masculine men" are fans of tyranny and every fascist dictatorship had a ton of "masculine men" behind them. e.g police or military. full of "masculine men" - and usualy the biggest partner in every tyranny.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:07 PM
1

treat them like potential friends, because they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:21 PM
1

yeah because they like to get it done in the usa.. not because you cant have xy treatment in other first world countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:07 PM
1

Living in a small apartment, ordering takeout and playing videogames is pretty much a routine for a lot of young men. Wasting time and not making anything out of themselves. thats the fault of these men. no one stops them from living an interesting and healthy life. they dont NEED women. they need a mommy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:47 PM
0

more or less - yes. the most unmasculine jobs are the jobs where other men own your body e.g. the military. they try to hide that fact and have that great pr strategy smokescreen of "soldier strong..hur hur hur". but in fact its one of the most unmasculine jobs ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:38 PM
2

A child without a house will have no childhood at all. what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:48 PM
2

oh sweet summer child. tons of women are fucking the personal trainer, their yoga guy .. that cool guitar player or any other poor but fit and sexy male cliche. and why not? sex is nothing bad... if they have sex why should they choose some chubby beta guy... you cant fuck his wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 10:07 PM
2

Basically the traits of being poor (lazy, stupid, unambitious, shy, weak, etc.) are beta traits while the traits of being rich (assertive, ambitious, hardworking, confident) are alpha. not realy. there are tons of very hard working beta guys. hard work wont make you alpha. a lazy alpha guy with the right lifestyle will fuck more than some hard working and well earning beta guy. "stupid" also isnt a big thing if you just want to bang.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 10:02 PM
3

maybe not with the homeless ... but tons of women fuck poor men they wouldnt marry. ... they choose some well earning beta guy for that position.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 09:59 PM
2

yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 09:54 PM
21

You are a MAN. You can live without a woman. A woman requires a man to raise her offspring. A woman requires your seed to procreate. You require none of those things. You are completely self sufficient no matter the circumstance. thats bullshittery. a man also needs a woman to procreate... and a women can be perfectly self sufficient and happy without a man.
/r/seduction28/11/21 02:22 PM
30

as a man - i realy like it when women i find attracive and interesting throw themselves at me - why shouldnt i ? its great when good things also are easy. i wouldnt mind winning the lottery or finding money on the ground either.
/r/seduction27/11/21 10:15 PM
0

Why can't they feel validated just by knowing she is/was attracted? how should a guy know a women is realy attracted - if you dont try to sleep with her? talk is cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 10:42 PM
1

I'm just lookin' for an extra confidence boost infield confidence comes within... if you need things to boost your confidence - you dont have confidence.
/r/seduction13/11/21 02:45 PM
1

you dont have to "dirty talk" - just talk.
/r/seduction09/11/21 01:20 PM
9

you dont have to. but you can if you want to.
/r/seduction08/11/21 02:35 PM
2

im 35 and i love nightclubs ... you dont have to visit the clubs where the very young folks go to... but that will heavily depend on your city/region.
/r/seduction08/11/21 02:34 PM
3

yeah. but guys can understand their own value - without putting other people down.
/r/seduction08/11/21 02:06 PM
5

She is not valuable: you are. why not both? every human is valuable.
/r/seduction07/11/21 01:24 PM
2

You really believe that ? You show up to a date in a rust bucket car and tell her your a 35 year old waiter. See how fast she will run away. no she wont. maybe she wont marry you - but it wont stop you from having a lot of hot sex.
/r/seduction05/11/21 04:30 PM
1

you can be masculine and non-traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 11:10 AM
2

biggest con of a traditional girl - wants a traditional man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 08:43 PM
1

Marriagediggers. We are living in 2021 ... we dont need marriage anymore. its an outdated construct. we dont need bear hunting caveman anymore - and we dont need "marriage" anymore. men and women need to realize that. time is moving forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:34 PM
1

Most men failed in life by this definition. then they should deal with it and grow a pair and be free of societys expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:22 PM
2

where is the problem of a "forever girlfriend"? a "forever" relationship doesnt sound like a bad thing ... better than a 4 year marriage + divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:22 PM
1

Why on earth would you think that a woman who fucks you before establishing an actual relationship wants a relationship with you? why not? the world isnt black-white. lots of relationships had a hookup as a starting point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 12:00 PM
2

most of the men whining on subs like this arent men that get a lot of hookups. i wouldnt call it "treated like shit" if i would get sex with a cool woman who wont bother me after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 11:57 AM
12

so you are very attracted to Angela Merkel?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 09:15 PM
2

join the hockey/lacrosse team and be a part?
/r/seduction26/10/21 11:01 AM
1

Well, in my dreams they are.... belive me - there are more than enough mid20 girls who would hook up with a fit and interesting 42 year old man. if you dont look and act like their father .. no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:14 PM
1

They want both. Men with both “alpha” and “beta” traits. fried ice? i also want both - a part-time job that pays min $300k.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:44 AM
2

have an interesting lifestyle. dont be like everyone else. play in a band / have cool hobbies / do something creative and show it / SHOW your personality and your competence. be interesting and other people want to spend time with you.
/r/seduction21/10/21 10:26 PM
3

low standards and lots of opportunities
/r/seduction18/10/21 03:35 PM
16

Women will notice that and will do the approaching for you. thats a dream. of course it can happen ... but it wont happen as much as you think.
/r/seduction07/10/21 05:56 PM
1

you dont have to do any "work"... you have to be interesting and text for a bit - and ask her out to some low-key date to see if you both click. no work involved. you have to BE interesting .. if you have to ACT like you are interesting... yeah then its work... but then you shouldnt date - you should work on your own life insteadt.
/r/seduction06/10/21 08:33 PM
1

well your father belived her a few times.
/r/seduction06/10/21 08:09 PM
2

our ape ancestor women didnt "select" anything... look at how mating in the animal kingdom works for most species ... the males fight each other and then have sex with the female... the female "selects" nothing (in most animal species)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 09:56 PM
3

thats a very bitter mindset. friends shouldnt hold you back in any form - they have your back regardless of their "social value".
/r/seduction05/10/21 03:33 PM
10

Also work on having a higher status social group. A girl cannot be attracted to you if you hangout with losers if you change your friends cause girls could think they are losers - you are an eternal loser.
/r/seduction05/10/21 11:11 AM
26

dont put "so much effort" in dates with people you barely know. go for a walk, have a coffee, watch a movie - invite them to do something you like to do.
/r/seduction05/10/21 11:09 AM
1

Their voice is soft and delightful, very soothing and nice to hear. Even the way they talk is so cute and féminine. They just move in a different way too, like a more elegant delicate way. there are tons of girls wo arent "feminine" per se. womens are humans like men. some are cool - and some arent.
/r/seduction04/10/21 05:18 PM
2

Until you are 60 years old, alone and nobody cares about your existence nobody ever will care about your existance - even if you have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 03:58 AM
3

Life is about sacrifice and compromise not just rugged individualism. it isnt. life is 100% what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 03:57 AM
1

bullshit. that "societal flow" contains self improvement. that guy wasnt born a good quarterback or whatever ... he trained and improved himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:34 PM
1

of course it does...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:32 PM
3

it doesnt. if you dont wanna have sex with them then nothing is won or lost. i just hate seeing that old "men are so desperate they fuck a sandwich or a coconut" cliche.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:17 PM
5

of course you have to be desierable - but "sexually desirable" and "desirable for a relationship" are 2 different things. for men AND for women. no sane man will have sex with a women he doesnt desire sexually (of course alcohol plays a big part ...).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:13 PM
8

. A man could find me dreadfully ugly (and I’m sure plenty do) but still take the opportunity to fuck me if it arose, but I’m not naive enough to think that would mean he actually likes me. most men wont fuck someone they find "dreadfully ugly"... i dont know why women always bring that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:08 PM
0

if a women is giving something valuable and makes herself a valuable person ... she also isnt worthless. every person should be valuable ... but "value" isnt just monetary value. be a funny and interesting guy .. boom.. you are now a valuable person. and if you are happy but "worthless" ... who cares? better to be happy than some unhappy fool who thinks he must provide his "value" to the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 10:20 PM
1

I want to use my salary to my advantage, your salary isnt an advantage. your salary is a bait for golddiggers.
/r/seduction29/09/21 10:48 AM
11

some 21 year old girl - of course. if you are an interesting fit and healthy 40 year old - and not some boring und schlubby 40 year old suburban dad.
/r/seduction29/09/21 10:13 AM
2

25 - 55
/r/seduction29/09/21 10:12 AM
1

only beta man want children. children are the ultimate beta move.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 12:11 AM
1

yes. its like the difference between wild animals and domesticated animals/lifestock.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 12:07 AM
3

maybe he dates 6 other woman ... maybe he is very desperate. just because he will wait means nothing - i know guys who hunted after certain girls for years and years just to have their "win"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 12:01 AM
2

Your claim is that fucking a woman who doesn’t enjoy it enough to want you for more is supreme, but a woman who wants to keep having sex with you for the rest of her life and bear your children is just kinda lame. most women want children ... its more a "provide and have children with me ... or i leave". most men would be very happy with enthusiastic sex with a great woman as a lifelong thing... but the thing is that "sexual enthusiasm" doesnt last that long...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:57 PM
8

the "work" in a relationship should be that both partners try to be good partners to each other - the "work" of a relationship shouldnt be that the man is earning money so that the woman can spend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:00 PM
1

yes. early first sex makes me very comfortable - its the only true "i like you" a woman can give.
/r/seduction24/09/21 12:56 AM
3

dudes are cool and have a lot of charisma and a lot going on for them aka. good lifestyle/status/fun to be arround. their "now" is great - their "potential" doesnt mattr.
/r/seduction23/09/21 02:37 PM
32

why shouldnt they? they want to date/fuck you now ... and not some "potential". "potential" is nothing - "potential" is like a good idea for your next billion dollar startup. worthless.
/r/seduction23/09/21 02:36 PM
5

she hasnt heard it from me yet.
/r/seduction17/09/21 08:16 PM
1

Men CAN get more attractve... if they put in the work. it isnt a law of nature that they just get more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:54 PM
6

no it isnt guaranteed - but the chances are higher if you attract a lot of people. if 1 in 10 persons is a match for you ... its better to have 1000 matches than to have 2 matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:16 PM
3

who wants that woman dont work? only the tradcucked idiots that look for a woman that is easy to control. of course woman should work... but they shouldnt make work and "career" the center of their universe... and the same applies to men. work to live - and dont live to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:38 AM
36

Make people happy and feel loved. Be a real nice and caring guy. Worked for me for many people thats harder then work for 20 years and make a lot of money ... sad but true.
/r/seduction14/09/21 06:26 PM
1

and you dont have opinions? what do you do with your friends? what do you do after work? starring at the wall? that sounds quite sad... and i think you may exaggerate a lot.
/r/seduction14/09/21 06:24 PM
1

I have zero things to say. No funny stories, no strong opinions, no knowledge, nothing. how old are you? 1? how do you go through live without opinions, knowledge or experiences?
/r/seduction14/09/21 06:12 PM
1

531
/r/seduction13/09/21 10:24 PM
10

How the fuck are you going to do that avoiding fear, rejection, pain and discomfort? avoiding these things can be a goal itself - as you said.. we are only living one life - and experiencing most of that time withoiut fear,pain and discomfort - sounds pretty good. on the other hand "discomfort" is a double edged sword... rejection is discomfort... but beeing lonely is also discomfort... so just choose which discomfort you like less... make your choice and dont whine about your choice.
/r/seduction13/09/21 10:22 PM
3

and because of that they tend to look inwards. its way easier to have your men "pre-vetted" by your friends.
/r/seduction13/09/21 10:11 PM
1

A job can't just fire you and hire someone half your age because they feel like it. what? of course they can. focusing too much on career and job is a bad thing for men AND women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 06:14 PM
1

whats more high value than someone who has enough money so he / she can be at the park at a tuesday?
/r/seduction10/09/21 10:21 PM
11

how can you be an interesting single person ? do interesting things? have interesting thougths? have an interesting life? i cant realy understand that question .. do you think you only are interestning when you do something with other people?
/r/seduction08/09/21 03:49 PM
17

i know a ton of unemployed men who feel great about themselves - but most of them have stable social cricles. having friends is a pretty cool thing...
/r/seduction08/09/21 03:11 PM
4

your passions,your hobbies, things you are interested in, your view of the world, your dreams, your goals, cool things in your past, cool things in your future - and all of that stuff you would talk about with your (old) friends?
/r/seduction08/09/21 03:11 PM
11

You want a second date and a third one after the first date. I would run out of things to talk about on the third date usually and when asked about my plans for the day, I would reply with "working out" that isnt a "social circle" problem - thats a YOU problem. dont you have some interesting things to do? you can have a boring social cycle or be a very interesting "single" person...
/r/seduction08/09/21 03:10 PM
1

of course i am! thx
/r/seduction07/09/21 08:19 PM
1

i dont know whats an "unique" place and an "amazing event" for you - but its very possible to go to most places without a ton of money if you put in the work and are ok with beeing uncomfortable.
/r/seduction07/09/21 08:17 PM
1

eating high quality food isnt very expensive either - but of course its hard to eat at a five star hotel without a ton of money. thats right. "events" ... it depends. there are many cool things that arent expensive either. of course money helps if you wanna do cool things ... but people find ways to do cool things without much money. everyone can fly arround the world and visit some restaurants if he has enough money ... but not everyone would hitchhike or walk arround the world with $1000. and …
/r/seduction07/09/21 08:03 PM
1

if you want you can see the world for very very less money ... there are tons of people doing that. is it fancy? no is it easy? no is it possible? yes of course check out /r/Shoestring /r/vagabond /r/workaway
/r/seduction07/09/21 06:12 PM
0

not realy. you can go traveling and see unique places and amazing events for free/very less money - IF you wanna do that. you can have a group of great friends without a ton of money.
/r/seduction07/09/21 04:25 PM
2

So true. its healthy ... and its fun. if working out isnt fun for you then just choose some other sport.. climbing.. volleyball...soccer... whatever.
/r/seduction07/09/21 03:50 PM
1

yeah that may be right. people that NEVER had sex or a relationship will always question themselves what IF... but i think men that had their share of sex/women mostly have no problem with beeing alone and just doing their thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:09 AM
1

its ok that they may think like that - but they should be honest about it and dont trick all the beta man into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 06:24 PM
2

There has been the saying “no matter hot she is there’s a guy somewhere tired of fucking her” out there for decades for a good reason. i always understood it that there are always men that cant stand the bullshit of their ex gf /FWB anymore .. despite beeing hot. i never understood it as "the sex is boring".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 06:23 PM
1

but many men can be alone and perfectly happy - while most (younger) women cant do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:57 PM
–

there never was a big revolution where "men broke their chains" - every major revolution was rich men overthrowing other rich men to be in a position of power - using the poor and unwashed masses as peons and fighters. if the 1% cant profit from "men breaking their chains" - there wont be one inch of a revolution happening. sad - but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 03:25 PM
1

Throughout history women have set the bar. what? Throughout history women seldom had a choice whom to marry/date/have children with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:58 PM
1

the fear is that men stand up and break their chains. and do what? thats an incel fantasy. "men" never broke their chains. most men are too lazy to cook a proper meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 07:47 PM
1

yes. but most people dont see that. 95% of people ARE slaves to a corporation... cause thats what grown ups do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 07:18 PM
1

"growing up" is a trap. what is "growing up"? in a nutshell its - work,work,work and spend money ... "growing up" just benefits the 1%. be lazy if you want, do all the thing you wanna do, do the things that make you feel good - as long as you dont hurt anybody everything is ok. its your life - enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:21 PM
19

To make a friend, you need accidental repeated contact. then you have to visit the same bar/club more than once ... become a regular - and you will recognize people and they will recoginize you.
/r/seduction31/08/21 08:39 PM
1

You’re being generous because you enjoy seeing your loved one happy and nurturing them. you can spoil people and make them happy without spending a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 07:12 PM
2

looks pretty average to me. not bad not great... average.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 02:29 PM
1

i talk about "below replacement rate" on a global level - but maybe we get some alien immigrants that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 02:28 PM
1

I feel like this is the “wall” for men. The girls you can attract @ 22 won’t be the same @ 32 and men as visual beings definitely see it. usualy you attract more and better woman at 32 than at 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 04:56 PM
5

But having below replacement rate childbirths is still a problem. why? the earth is overpopulated - a few billion people less would be great.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 09:19 AM
2

not anyone wants to have children ...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 09:17 AM
19

the UK is like the Florida of Europe.
/r/seduction16/08/21 11:16 PM
1

how would someone argue human males are “domesticated” the way livestock would be? by looking at reality. people are living in small spaces, feeding a bad diet and have to work for most of their wake hours to survive and generate profit for your owners. if you dont work hard enoughfor your owners - you will be punished, homeless and starve..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 09:56 AM
1

yeah good examples for a 16 year old - but reality is a bit more complex than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:36 PM
2

stronger animals dont eat weaker animals. its more complicated than that... "strong" and "weak" is oversimplified. its "survival of the fittest" - and not survival of the strongest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 01:27 PM
1

I think there are alot of things men could do to help boost the amount of attention they get. what do you think of? just lift bro? just get a good job bro? just be nice bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 12:30 PM
1

The strong eat the weak thats incredibly oversimplified and plain wrong. the "strong" dont eat the "weak". "strong" and "weak" are dynamic and flexible. the strong man could be the weak man in a different situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 10:14 AM
1

sex is like pizza - even if it isnt a great pizza - its good. you dont need a very attractive woman to have good sex - an enthustiastic "less attractive" woman is more than enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 03:58 PM
1

Here’s the REAL red pill: Women prefer ”provider” types over fuckboy types. they prefer them for a relationship - not for sex. thats AF/BB in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 03:52 PM
1

you know people who have kids because "i want to keep the species" alive ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 03:41 PM
3

An average-looking guy with a college degree, a decent job, nice clothes, and a good haircut is still just an average-looking guy. you shouldnt have an "average haircut and "nice clothes" and a "decent job" ... if you dont wanna be average.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 02:19 PM
9

Why would a woman regard a male "slut" as "husband material"? we dont talk about "husband material" - we talk about attraction and arousal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 10:52 AM
-1

new experiences dont have to be very costly - it isnt a good mindset to think that you have to pay for "experiences".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 10:34 AM
19

livable wages and strong unions also were a thing back then
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 10:20 AM
2

only "traditional men" want "traditional relationships". but there arent "traditional relationships" anymore ... cause you can divorce without consequence - so why have a "semi-traditional" relaitonship?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 10:06 AM
1

read again. i never said that. a man shouldnt do anything for a woman because he "has to" - and a woman shouldnt do anything for a man because she thinks "she has to do that now" - cause "he expacts that" everyone SHOULD be nice to each other. its great. but beeing nice to each other implies that you do things because you WANT to. and most men dont want to spend money on a dinner date with a woman they dont know... they just do it because they have to. and thats a simp move. thats all i a saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 10:05 AM
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its a phrase - but its a dumb one. a man shouldnt try to fight/win/buy a womans affection - and let her be in a position to evaluate his worth. thats just a simp move. and most men know that - but they have no choice than to play by the unwritten rules. luckily more and more younger guys act different nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 08:30 PM
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you dont "win" and you dont "buy" affection. 2 people share it. a man buying a woman dinner cause the unwritten dating rules say so is "buying" her presence and time. thats a simp move. a man cooking something and inviting people he likes to share a meal and a good time - thats nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 08:20 PM
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not anything - but anything a man does for a girl cause he has to buy her affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 08:12 PM
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Does he not want to pay if he asks to pay? Then why does he ask? cause these are the unwritten rules of the dating game. if you like to play - most "normal" men have to play by the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 05:54 PM
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why is that funny? they are simps. we arent living in 1900 anymore. if you walk arround wearing a coat and a top hat you are extravagant at best ... but mostly a creep. its the same with "traditional men"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 05:52 PM
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I think it's pretty much standard to pay if you invite someone. it is - but it also pretty much standard that the man asks a woman out for a date .. you cant compare that to friends who invite each other because they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 04:04 PM
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its a good way to vet for a simp that is ok with spending money on a woman. it is not a good way to vet for a good relationship or find an attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 04:02 PM
1

but when OP is good at sex - they usualy want to have MORE fun
/r/seduction08/08/21 07:08 PM
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dont know ... if they have sex with you pretty fast that isnt a bad thing ... maybe OP just sucks at sex so they dont want round #2
/r/seduction08/08/21 07:07 PM
1

what a nice dream. but not realistic.
/r/seduction07/08/21 10:39 PM
1

comparing apples to oranges. my arrousal floor for men is pretty high...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:22 PM
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Men don't really have an arousal floor. If she's not too obese and she's in the fertility window (not too young and not too old), men will want to fuck her as a man ... thats not true. i dont want to fuck every woman between 18 and 40 thats "not too obese". there are plenty of attractive woman ... but there sure is more for attraction than "dont be obese".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:33 PM
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While I think OP is overselling the point somewhat, most men simply don't have the option to do this. why? if they are afraid to be alone without a woman maybe they should work on that ...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:22 PM
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No one forces you to have children... tons of women are childfree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 08:55 PM
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Capitalism
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 08:54 PM
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They might rate them harshly, but still message and reply to them - unlike men cause they search for a beta provider ... and not because they are attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 08:08 PM
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"wont let him" sounds like he wants to ... but he cant. i think he shouldnt want to leave... he could... but why should he?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:33 PM
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100% this. the dating scence would be so much better if a lot more women would be childfree... no need for a "provider" and "husband and mother" qualities ... so much less stress and discussion... more time,energy and money to be in an actual relationship with eachother.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:18 PM
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I see. I’m glad you’re a strong believer in bodily autonomy. But on a different note, doesn’t Redpill teach that it’s best to not commit to one woman if you’re not having kids? I perceive the philosophy is: thats just the tradcon party ... all these tradcon incel types that dream of some 1950 life... strong man and handsome naive and prude women... white fence... disgusting and backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:16 PM
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He will end up alone. The beta I just call a solid good guy, will get married and have a family. yeah but its better to be alone than to be beta family guy. beeing alone isnt bad .. people have hobbies, friends, jobs, passions... billy "mature and stable" beta has stress and a nagging wive, a dirty house full of kids and no money and time for his passions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:04 PM
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an alpha IS a strong stable guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:00 PM
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They lust for power not for offspring. maybe they just like sex? and dont do it because they like "rape and power" nor wanting to create a football team of babys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 06:17 PM
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He’s just a sex tool a car is just a tool too ... but you there are $1000 cars and $1.000.000 Cars... the man that gets a lot of casual sex is a high value tool. he isnt "high value" in a RMV sense... but he is high value in a SMV sense.... also he is "high value" for most men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:23 PM
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most succesful artists are alpha men - they just arent the cliche kind of an alpha man... at least thats my experience... also many succesful artists of the past were 100% alpha man. maybe that depends on the field of art.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 09:07 PM
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most artists are "alpha men"... its just too simple and cliche that "alpha" means "big muscles/tattoos"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 09:02 PM
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As a woman, the pressure to follow the script is very high, much higher than it is even for men. i think its just another kind of pressure. women are pressued "have kids, marry, be a good wife" and men are " work work work, find a wife and work or you are worthless". but yeah i think you are 100% right - those people are out there.. but sadly not that many.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 08:36 PM
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but that cant be the whole thing ... a fat neckbeard who doesnt give a shit while sitting in his neckberd nest playing wow isnt attractive nor a bad boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:01 PM
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A lot of people mistake "exciting/interesting/adventurous" with something negative. a lot of people are boring .. cause they follow the script for a "normal and good life" ... most of those people dont want to do that .. deep down ... but they also dont want to "break free" and be without a safe plan ... so they shame people who break out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:53 PM
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yeah but porn for men = stuff men want to see. so porn for women = stuff woman want to see...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:25 PM
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what is the female gaze? what do they want to see? buff bad badys raping women - and they love it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:23 PM
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they only need it if they are happy beeing beta buxx providers. there are way better things you could do with your life... even more if you have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:38 PM
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no women ever was attracted to a man cause of money - she is attracted to the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:44 PM
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depends on the women you want to attract... but i think option1 would be better -to attract fun women.
/r/seduction22/07/21 12:17 PM
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capitalism is eliminating poverty - what are you smoking ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:10 PM
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then she should try to marry the hot carreer dude... and not billy beta with the huge bank account.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:58 PM
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how many of them saw your bedroom?
/r/seduction19/07/21 05:38 PM
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yes. they shame those men and hope that other men wont act like these "losers"... and when they have their beta guy nailed down ... they will shame him because he is so boring and mundane and blablabla. when women talk about "immature guys" "peter pan" "losers" ... listen very carefuly... its the old AF/BB tale.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 11:24 PM
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It’s just not always in a lustful way. but thats the only attraction that counts. everything else is just beta buxxing´for the scraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 11:21 PM
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people of the past definetly were muscular ... tons of manual labour.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 11:20 PM
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You've never known any handsome, charming but irresponsible guys who aren't suitable for long-term relationships? that doesnt realy sound like "losing" to me. if i fuck a ton of hot girls while living in a van - i dont care if people call me a loser.... thats the only thing most people can do ... shame other people ... while they spend their whole lives working and following societys rulebook ... while hating the "losers" and "bad boys".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 11:02 PM
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do you have an example how you would treat women as inferiour and had success?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 10:41 PM
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wouldnt that be the same as a man who "cares" so much about a girl that he goes 50:50 on a McDonalds date?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 10:00 PM
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fat women lust after fit man .. broke women dream about rich men. its the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 09:54 PM
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thats just theory ...we both know that "standards" are very flexible and dynamic and tons of women are looking for sex partners.,
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 09:49 PM
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or she may use you for the things you can provide ... access to music festivals etc etc.
/r/seduction16/07/21 04:32 PM
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it could - but you have to look that it is YOU she is attracted to... and not your money
/r/seduction16/07/21 04:26 PM
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tons of women arent doing that ... they "give" sex to their husband and dont enjoy it... tons of women fake orgasms so that hubby thinks he is casanova.. but in her mind she is organizing the closet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 09:19 PM
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yeah then they should teach their men or dump them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 08:47 PM
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squirrels arent greedy ... they have to survive... they dont collect nuts just to sell them years later when nut price is high.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:59 PM
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do you have some examples for greedy and fake animals?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:54 PM
1

then they should know how their body works - so they should teach their partners how to also make them orgasm. or dump them if those guys cant/dont want to do that... or they should stop having sex until they learn. but woman shouldnt "give" sex to men without enjoying it ... but she thinks she has to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:46 PM
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We are just animals playing god, that is it. animals arent greedy,arogant,selfish or fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:46 PM
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you can be very happy without making others losers ... in fact its even better when everybody wins... cause we dont want the same things... life isnt some zero sum game.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:45 PM
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in a relationship? then women should work on their and their partners sexual skills and experience good sex... sex isnt rocket science. and if a women doesnt enjoy sex - she also shouldnt "give" it to a man... what a nasty feeling for the man.. to know she doesnt enjoy it but thinks she should "give" it to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:09 PM
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women want money when they look for a relationship. money doesnt count for attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 05:45 PM
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women dont "provide" sex. sex is something that should be fun and pleasurable for both partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 05:37 PM
1

"ambition" is woman-speak for "makes money and wants to make more money"... at least in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:37 PM
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yes .. cause these are 2 extremes... you dont have to be homeless chad... be an attractive man - while not working yourself to death or be some career climbing beta boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:33 PM
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i would chose lots of sex and no money... every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:31 PM
1

he could just find a hot woman in her mid/late 20s that desires him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:00 PM
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the same. every time you have sex with her you know that she only has sex with you cause you pay her - and not because she wants to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 07:02 PM
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Just play some vidya, work on your porn collection, maybe plan a sex trip, and wait for the next generation to turn 18. you mean workout and become an interesting person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 06:04 PM
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the benefit of commitment is commitment... could we please stop wiith that "hardworking provider" tradcon bullsht.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:49 AM
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yeah. not your average 50year old dude. impossible? no. but i wouldnt count on it.
/r/seduction14/07/21 10:48 AM
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some may - most wont... but they wont bang "random 50year old dude" - they want "smoking hot and interesting 50 year old dude"
/r/seduction14/07/21 10:10 AM
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thats a bitter bitter world view - and not true at all.
/r/seduction14/07/21 10:10 AM
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have many opportunities. strong friends group - go out a few nights per week - have fun - women like men that have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 10:26 PM
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dont say anything - dont chase. if she doesnt want to - next.
/r/seduction13/07/21 08:24 PM
1

very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:58 PM
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men who like women with small breasts are gay but to scared to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:43 PM
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of course they are - but im not an obedient man at all. but i dont stuff my opinions in the face of people i dont know either. if you act like a decent and normal person - no one will dislike you just because you have a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:40 PM
2

a degree in engineering is pretty useless if you want to analyze art and do arts related stuff. everything has its purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 05:56 PM
1

lifelong earning potential is better with a college degree ... also every tradesman i know has a broken body by 45. of course there are exceptions - but thats just how it works in general
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 05:55 PM
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that just isnt true at all ... im a man since over 30 years - and i never felt that everyone disliked me ... maybe you are just a douche?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 05:52 PM
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yeah me too - i never understood why so many men shit on feminism. i think its great that women arent repressed like they were 100 years ago its also pretty good for men... i wouldnt want to be a man in 1900.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:48 PM
1

Feminism is great!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:47 PM
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the thing is - you need to change your habits to become a fit and interesting person. not "3 Month Sprints". slow and steady wins the race. 3 months of gym and 9 months of "having fun" and eating out wont cut it.
/r/seduction12/07/21 06:44 PM
1

whats after the 3 months?
/r/seduction12/07/21 06:30 PM
2

My Top5 are No Career and not driven by money Lover of Nature Creator and not a big consumer Values Art and Beauty Laughs a ton.
/r/seduction12/07/21 06:24 PM
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the idea a 25 year old woman wants a 60 year old is beyond laughable. A few do but overwhelmingly most don't. sexual harrasment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:30 PM
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Why does it look comical on them? cause they are small... the proportions are off when a smaller guy has a big biceps etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:24 PM
1

so what do you find attractive in men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 08:45 PM
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yes of course. but you are a loser if you work yourself to death just to be a happy provider. tons of broke "losers" fuck way more than the "stable and mature" career guys. ofc there is a big big area between those two extremes.
/r/seduction10/07/21 10:18 PM
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no. thats because most humans follow crazy idologys...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:14 PM
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Stop crying and hustle, dawg. Women don’t care, they wait at the finish line for winners no. dont "hustle" and go home with some golddigger waiting at the finish line. do what you want to do - enjoy single life... stop beliving in some oldschool dating dream... there are more than enough women out there that dont want a "provider".
/r/seduction10/07/21 09:46 PM
1

or i just quick cook something healthy. yeah it isnt "instant"... but even ordering food isnt instant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:30 PM
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a woman shouldnt "give" sex to her man ... she should want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:11 PM
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whats the problem with instant-gratification? when im hungry i wanna eat - and i dont want to butcher a pig or sow some seeds.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:36 PM
2

of course its bad to lie to people. but there are more than enough woman who also dont want a relationship etc etc.
/r/seduction10/07/21 09:31 AM
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why? i dont think its very bad. there are times when you dont want to have a relationship... and that goes for men and women. you just have to find your counterpart(s)
/r/seduction10/07/21 09:21 AM
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THEY LOVE YOU NOW and thats totaly ok and what many men want... not everyone is searching for a lifelong relationship. i dont want "bills kick in" and i certainly dont want children.
/r/seduction10/07/21 09:19 AM
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dont tell them your job ... be vague. or downplay it a bit. change the subject pretty fast - dont talk "job" - talk about interesting and emotional stuff... its a date and not a job interview... dont position yourself as "reliable and stable chinese guy with a good job"
/r/seduction10/07/21 09:04 AM
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not all men .. i know a guy, who fucks a lot, who only likes the thin small athletic ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:01 PM
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No. Seduction is a effective way to seperate the low from the high interest people - and maybe convince the medium interest people.
/r/seduction09/07/21 12:33 PM
1

you could have skipped the first part ... but in the end it doesnt matter. if she wants to go out with you she will say yes... good second part. everything good bro.
/r/seduction09/07/21 09:18 AM
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why? just leave when she says no or seems not eager to continue.
/r/seduction09/07/21 09:14 AM
1

"no money" isnt that good. do you mean NO money? then get some money.
/r/seduction09/07/21 09:07 AM
2

find male friends and go out a lot.
/r/seduction09/07/21 09:05 AM
1

ask her to go out the next days and ask for her number / give her yours.
/r/seduction09/07/21 09:02 AM
1

Shes right - Having kids is the ultimate beta move.
/r/MGTOW08/07/21 10:33 PM
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work out, eat healthy, develop an interesting lifestyle, have ambitions, learn, be curious about life, have strong and healthy friendships yes most men can be desirable... no not everyone.. but i bet 95%.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 08:19 PM
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put in the work e.g. workout, eat healthy, develop an intereresting life, have cool hobbies, have a good social life, value friendships, be curious about life... have ambitions (not just "more moneeezzz for lamboooo" )
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:30 PM
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i didnt say ANYTHING about money.... money may help with attracting women .. but its also a dangerous thing... cause most of these women will only like your money - and not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:04 PM
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no man should "provide" anything.., thats oldschool beta behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:33 PM
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our whole society is set up to produce more consumers and wage slaves for the owning class... sure 10.000 years ago we NEEDED more humans to survive ... but today there is no need for every person to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:31 PM
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this. i cannot understand why men want a woman that NEEDS them.... in most cases she doesnt need YOU ... she needs your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:28 PM
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yeah but that "value" is something very different from economic value. a friend we share fun experiences with is more "valuable" as a billionaire... we shouldnt measure human relations with the measures and scales of capitalism. that leads to dark places and wont work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:21 PM
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Because you provide them some value. yeah but that value is unique to me .. and you cant compare the value of people like you can compare the specs of 2 macbooks. also im a man ... so i seem to have value - OPs view is very very cynical and bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 03:17 PM
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my counterargument is that humans have no "value". tools have value. "value" isnt something that matters for human beeings.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 02:48 PM
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reddit is a place for discussion - a person answering isnt "triggered". my reply is a counterpoint to that useless cynical post - there are men out who that may belive that crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 02:40 PM
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cool personality, lifestyle... and of those 50% of men that cant get"sexual attraction"... the majority of those COULD get sexual attraction if they put in the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 02:36 PM
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Smart men have changed their game from being needed to being wanted. 100% this. but most men still bitch and whine about the past ... "women were married to sime factory worker at 20... and she loooooooved him and the 5 kids"... yeah.. sounds like a nightmare for both. every man (95%) is able to be "wanted"... if he puts in the work... or just live a happy single life... that isnt bad either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 02:35 PM
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i dont care about my "value" ... tools have value. tools get used. im a human beeing i dont have "value". i like myself. other people like me. thats more than enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 02:33 PM
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i think if you use them for fingerpicking ... and you can play well ... it isnt that bad... at least if they dont look like dirty claws.
/r/seduction08/07/21 11:15 AM
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(Now, of course, you shouldn't just be a homeless bum, that is attractive to literally no one.) wrong. if you are the right kind of homeless bum (long term world traveller - not methhead - women will be very very attracted probably).
/r/seduction08/07/21 11:13 AM
0

i dont want a lamborgini.
/r/seduction07/07/21 06:42 PM
1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5V_za0juLw
/r/seduction07/07/21 06:41 PM
1

no that isnt true for every single person on the planet. you could invest your money wisely ... you could start your own business... you could even drop out of society and buy a farm and weave baskets on the side if you are ok with that. a business isnt a job.
/r/seduction07/07/21 03:23 PM
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If you’re developing a career, you’re not a wage slave. of course you are. you are a wage slave if you are a $500.000 investment banker... cause these types tend do spend $550.000 of that money... you are a wage slave if you NEED your job to survive.
/r/seduction07/07/21 11:41 AM
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. Ever notice how flirty and funny or easy to talk to a 65 year old woman is? never noticed that - i would never flirt with a 65 year old woman ... cause that IS creepy. i think talking to attractive woman is easier, at least for me, cause a big part of "attractive" is beeing an unique and confident person - and talking to that kind of people usualy is way more fun and engaging. also the "reward" is higher.
/r/seduction07/07/21 11:36 AM
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What if she turned you down? Then what happens to your confidence? he already won - cause he approached. if he is succesful thats just the cherry on top of the ice cream
/r/seduction07/07/21 11:18 AM
2

traveling and especially dancing are, at least for me, very much conncted to girls. but yeah of course you are right - not EVERYTHING fun is connected to girls ... and there are tons of fun things to do that arent.
/r/seduction06/07/21 04:05 PM
2

18-25 is a bit short ... but women tend do look better in their 20s... most women will look not as good in their 30s+ - of course there are exceptions - and of course 30+ women are cool people and looks arent everything.
/r/seduction06/07/21 03:16 PM
8

This is the first thing I was going to say: DON'T HAVE KIDS EARLY *ever. Dont have kids - Ever!
/r/seduction06/07/21 03:11 PM
13

but a big part of "fun" is "girls" isnt it? at least for me. of course there are other funny things... but girls and fun is very much connected.
/r/seduction06/07/21 11:16 AM
1

also a ton of rape and most marriages didnt pay that much attention to "healty and functional people".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 08:32 PM
9

you realize that Kiyosaki is a bancrupt scammer who sells books and guru courses ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 08:01 PM
1

I am who I am today - healthy, functional - because my ancestors DID NOT SETTLE FOR UNHEALTHY AND DYSFUNCTIONAL. thats bullshit. our ancestors did a ton of things .. but marriages/sex/children because the relationship was "healthy" or functional" wasnt a big thing for most of human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 07:59 PM
5

"inspiration" is a nice word for "i had to succeed - or she would probably divorce me"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 07:57 PM
1

very true. men that flaunt money,wealth just present themselves as "valuable tools" ... and tools will be used... not loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 07:56 PM
1

maybe he likes what he does ... and isnt a CEO just to bag "high quality women" to show off?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 07:54 PM
1

you can phrase it better... dont tell someone they suck... tell about things you both could improve so you both will have more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 07:53 PM
1

you can work on it - and you will have sex that both of you like?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 07:52 PM
2

you dont have to go full batshit - you do the things that are known and effective... and lip balm is a perfecty normal thing when it gets cold enough... skin care is just maintenance for your bodys biggest organ ... its literaly the wrapping paper of your body. just grease it 2x a day to keep it healthy...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 08:45 PM
3

For the majority of men, the quality of our skin doesn't add enough value to our lives to care about it. the skin is your biggest organ ... good skin feels good ... just use a moisturiszer after you wake up and before you go to bed ... thats 2minutes... and it WILL imprive your dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 08:36 PM
1

i know tons of women who are very attractive (to me) that arent "fit". there is a big big area between "obese" and "fit"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 08:31 PM
1

you will find a man for every woman... i think just "fit" isnt enough to be attractive ...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 08:30 PM
2

fuckable = base line attractive. thers a difference between "yeah she has some attractive parts" and "wtf what an attractive woman"... and 90% of people male and female arent type2... and thats totaly ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 08:27 PM
1

there are tons of attractive man that arent tall... yeah they arent midgets either .. but 5´7+ is ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 08:24 PM
31

2 bottles of wine
/r/seduction04/07/21 02:18 PM
6

be yourself is a good advice. but "be yourself" doesnt mean "be like you always have and dont change anything" you are yourself if you wear good fitting clothes and have a good body... be yourself means that you shouldnt change your personality and your identity to be more likable or datable... cause that wont work longterm and will only do harm.
/r/seduction02/07/21 02:12 PM
3

to peak at 35 - you need to start climbing at some point. you wont "peak" at 35 if you do nothing.
/r/seduction02/07/21 12:56 PM
1

yeah and thats ~2000 years. thats a very small timeframe compared to human society and human existance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 12:37 PM
4

everyone is expendable - and everyone is unique. thats the paradox of our world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 12:35 PM
2

thats the spirit!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 12:34 PM
1

just dont be average/below average.... whats the point of live when you are "average"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 12:17 PM
1

yes of course - the idea of "marriage" itself is a fairly novel and made up concept. people act like marriage is something natural like breathing or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 12:10 PM
2

do you think thats good?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 07:35 PM
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tons of people are into "helping" others - it seems innocent ... but beeing the one who helps the poor/weak/disabled .. or even loves them - puts you in a position of power.. cause the other person is weak and needs you - while it also puts you in a very high position of moral superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 07:00 PM
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she has a mother theresa complex
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:45 PM
3

If they asked. If they didn't care enough to, that's not my problem. do you think men should act the same way with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:44 PM
3

thats your strategy and your worldview ... there are women who are capable of having sex and not having sex with the same men... without a sEriOuS relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:43 PM
11

Most men's happiness is not primarily tied to putting their penis into a woman its not "put penis in vagina" - its the feeling of beeing wanted and the knowledge that you are attractive to women... and men are very much driven by that. not 100% - but to a high degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:30 PM
4

If men could get casual sex as easy as women, most would not even get into relationships. They'd be just as happy as women. thats the life of chad... he may even be happier than women .. cause women still are hit heavily with the " a woman needs a man" social shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:29 PM
2

man arent attracted by status - of course it may be nice if she is rich... but it doesnt matter for sexual attraction. no amount of money can make a 50 year old ugly women be attractive.... and i think its the same for women... but many women just go for it cause the money is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:25 PM
1

live an interesting live, do things you wanna do, dont think you "need" a man, dont have kids - and when you meet interesting men just see if you vibe with them...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 11:16 AM
3

you have to be ok with having a girlfriend 40+ .. just be a good looking toyboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 11:13 AM
6

look - yes maybe. will they approach you? - probably not.
/r/seduction01/07/21 11:01 AM
2

does a fursuit count?
/r/seduction01/07/21 11:00 AM
1

Traveling can be done dirt cheap if you want to. /r/Shoestring and www.workaway.info are 2 great resources. also of course /r/digitalnomad and if you wanna go realy hard /r/vagabond
/r/seduction01/07/21 10:58 AM
1

drinking with friends .. hiking... photography. creative stuff is always good... it brings up your artistic side and its something that you can show... setting up a exhibition is pretty cool .. even if its on a very small scale. beeing in nature is always good - try to see the beauty in the mundane and normal things. you dont have to go to amazonia for beautiful nature... connect with nature. cause we are nature.
/r/seduction01/07/21 10:28 AM
9

yes absolutly this - i have zero shame and i think it can be pretty fun... i once dance naked in some dive bar - nobody cared and i even was approached by girls the next day ... just do it. yes you will be creepy to some - but you will be super cool and interesting to others. polarize - and have fun.
/r/seduction01/07/21 10:26 AM
46

I’m a gal and it really sucks when the guy doesn’t make a move so its 2021 ... just make your move.
/r/seduction01/07/21 10:22 AM
6

you will know if you tell her that you wont "provide" for her... if she doesnt care. she loves you - if she cares - she loves your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 06:45 PM
6

Who cares what a woman wants as long as she’s fulfilling all your wants and needs? cause its a want and need to BE wanted. otherwise you are just paying a long term hooker.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 06:40 PM
18

rule of thumb: very expensive "show off" wedding = marriage wont last long.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 10:46 AM
7

a million chinese and indian guys also took robotics and will work 70h for $2000
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 10:31 AM
2

thats like saying you shared a plate with other people in a restaurant ... no you didnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 09:24 AM
2

and i think that should be the norm and totaly understandable. but the question is - when does one feel like he/she is settling? how is our image of a "good" partner manufactured and manipulated?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 09:20 AM
6

and i would define "game" as "learning ways to be attractive and interesting to get more women to the point of wanting to have sex with you" ... some kind of "goal oriented" self improvement - and not as a technique to manipulate woman. but i think it can be both.
/r/seduction29/06/21 10:09 PM
6

yes thats a problem and an unhealthy view. the goal should be to have sex WITH an attractive woman that WANTS to have sex with you ... cause its a fun thing to do - not to conquer her and have sex with her like a trophy.
/r/seduction29/06/21 09:59 PM
5

why? its perfectly normal wanting to have sex with attractive women. nothing bad... unless you go down the "i fuck everything with a pulse cause a real man does that" route.
/r/seduction29/06/21 09:54 PM
6

men that think they should work till their 30s without looking/dating/fucking at women are outliers. yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:04 PM
1

100%. a drunk hookup is 2 people that want to fuck each other - cause they think it will be fun. thats a whole other thing than one person paying another person to pretend to wanna fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:48 PM
2

I feel like I should give a reason why she should spend time with me first. the approach is reason enough.
/r/seduction29/06/21 03:15 PM
2

Having Kids is Low Value Behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:57 AM
3

there is a negative side in everything... its part of the things. we cannot destroy it - but we must acknowledge it and try to find workarrounds or at least know where the weakness is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:58 PM
1

you are very good with words - wan som fuk?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:23 PM
8

some weird timeframes when she wants him to propose to her - or she will bail.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:20 PM
4

not really. you can't change your facial structure or the proportions of your body, you will find a man that finds you attractive with every facial structure and every body proportion .... it wont be chad sometimes .. but you will find men that find you attractive - 99.99%
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:18 PM
1

its just subconsciously telling everyone that you don’t need to improve. you dont NEED to improve - but you shouldnt complain either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:15 PM
5

of course there is toxic masculinity .. as there is toxic feminity ... "toxic plants" doesnt mean that all plants are toxic... but some plants are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:09 PM
1

women can organize and change laws, public opinion and such .. no problem. but how can men find a "solution" for something that is inside the other genders brain?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:05 PM
2

there are tons of people who belive they will be happy when they are rich... and that isnt true. of course you could be rich and happy. but you wont go from "deeply unhappy average life" to "happy rich man"
/r/seduction28/06/21 06:24 PM
27

yes! polarizing works. crash and burn. but be confident enough to follow up on the things you promise over text... otherwise it could be pretty embarassing.
/r/seduction28/06/21 06:06 PM
3

you have to deeply think that you ARE attractive... thats 50%+ ... and yes a bit of crazyness and delusion will help. working out definietly helps - but the major benefit of working out is... you do something for yourself and YOU will feel way more attractive... the other benefit is that you look like you work out. clothes that fit are another big point. they should fit your bodytype AND also your own "image"... clothes should be the exterior to your interior ... and not just fabric that keeps y…
/r/seduction28/06/21 06:00 PM
2

theres tons of rich people who are deeply unhappy. if you cant be happy with a cup of coffee - you wont be happy with a yacht. (of course all that only counts if you have enough money for a normal life .. food/shelter/etc)
/r/seduction28/06/21 05:58 PM
14

thats a highway into creepy territory... doesnt matter if she has a real boyfriend - she doesnt want to interact with you. say thank you and leave.
/r/seduction28/06/21 05:25 PM
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It’s the same thing with approaching. “He’s cute and if he hits on me and isn’t weird I’ll fuck him but not attractive enough where I’m gonna break the social stigma to approach.” are you a woman? or is that a thing you experienced?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 09:28 AM
1

Also, as a sidenote, in Germany right now, almost every day on the news you hear how we have to go full green, save the earth, how we can stop consuming so much to relieve the environment yeah ... but its just greenwashing and fancy talk. 90% of people consume like ever - and the industry is producing like ever... they just start some fancy "green" brands and think they are save.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 09:01 AM
2

very true... add unstable global situation + climate change = no kids for every sane person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:45 AM
1

You actually get to talk a bit, in the states you just get declined outright for your looks. tinder works the same way everywhere ... you swipe for looks ... and then you talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:43 AM
-4

cause it leads nowhere. use your energy in some healthy and constructive way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 06:51 PM
2

every person should be educated... education itself is valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 05:09 PM
2

most people have enough money to survive...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:26 PM
5

is that these men dont give a flying fuck about vanity. They dont want to spend all this time and effort gussying themselves up because it doesnt interest them at all, then they shouldnt complain and silently watch porn and game.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:22 PM
1

as a man ... that sounds perfectly reasonable. why should i have a relationship with a ugly woman - if i could have sex with an attractive woman instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:15 PM
-1

men that have sex with girls they dont find attractive are the worst of the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:09 PM
7

I am always afraid of that why are you afraid of that? she wont kill you. let her think you are a creep. doesnt hurt. if you do things that are outside the norm - someone will think you are creepy ... while other think you are realy brave and cool.
/r/seduction27/06/21 11:57 AM
2

thats pretty common. same for me.
/r/seduction26/06/21 08:43 PM
-1

you dont have to be average. its totaly ok to look average - but it isnt ok to "be" average... and whine about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:35 PM
1

of course. many men have nothing else but their ego. empty shells with jobs and a big ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:49 PM
1

they value his sexual persona and his skills. if they wouldnt see any value in him and his actions they wouldnt have sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:06 PM
2

its always slippery slope to connect "value" and sex. of course you arent more valuable as a person because you had sex... if you are good at sex... thats may be a valuable skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:21 PM
2

yeah you may see him as "not valuable". and thats totaly ok. but you also have to accept that he wont care if he is "not valuable" in your eyes.... cause he got what he wanted... and i think its quite unusual to think that it isnt "valued" - when you get what you want. when i get what i want - i wont care if i am valued - cause i got what i want. if someone will give me a million dollar and thinks im an asshole - so what? dont care.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:18 PM
1

I am not young. you are 22. you are bloody young.
/r/seduction26/06/21 04:08 PM
1

when people get annoyed when their fuck buddies fuck other people they need to get real with themselves ... do they have feelings for them? or are you just overly jealous and have no self esteem? i bet they would like to have more than 2 fuck buddys ... and that would be no problem for them. many guys just are desperate and have no self esteem and confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:02 PM
2

no i aint chad - and when i have sex with a woman and we have fun in the bedroom - i dont care if she secretly thinks i have no "value" to her or such stuff. we both had fun - and she can think whatever she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:51 PM
5

why is that pathetic? its like native americans selling land for pennies. they think it has no value - but it has value for the other party. it doesnt matter how you value things... value lies in the eye of the beholder. value isnt some defined thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:26 PM
1

tons of rich people commit suicide ... so i think many of them ARE depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 01:29 PM
2

You underestimate how many non-prostitute lays have a similar dynamic. i dont underestimate that - but we call that "beta bucks" and laugh about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:22 AM
1

it is degrading cause they only fuck you for your money and not because you are hot. try it. you will see how trashy it feels after a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:09 AM
1

a man who is proud of fucking hookers is a midget walkin on stilts. of course it may be fun for a few times - but you will soon realize that it is degrading and beta behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:05 AM
1

no. it works better when you are hot... but there are tons of "not traditional hot" people that score well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:03 AM
1

100% losers. paying for a woman is like saying "hey i know i am not good enough - so i have to substitute with money"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:45 AM
1

chad isnt "giving" her anything besides his presence... she WANTS chad. but she doesnt want 40year old guy ... she wants his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:44 AM
1

you pay them for fucking you - you are a loser... fucking a woman isnt something great - when she WANTS to have sex with you ... that where the glory is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:42 AM
1

men who "leverage their money" shouldnt complain if they end up as betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:40 AM
1

if rich people were "winners" - then they wouldnt be so miserable and unhappy.. rich people have depressions too. happy people are winners in life - having money helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:39 AM
16

getting laid IS getting valued for 99% of men. chad wont care if you secretly hate him if you let him into your bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:27 AM
1

and? you dont need to go to a five star hotel to have a nice vacation either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:06 AM
1

i think everything creative and arts related is interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:35 PM
-2

why does an attractive man needs an "LTR"? i think we shouldnt see a relationship as the norm. have a healthy social life, have your own dreams and goals - and have fun with attractive women. i dont expect any women to be "ready" to be in a relationship. i expect her to be funny and outgoing, interesting and sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:28 PM
1

not "on demand" ... but if you go out 2-3x a week... and have normal social skills and look like a normal human beeing chances are pretty high that you will see some sexual success.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:22 PM
-9

most men are perfectly able to have casual sex. "chad" has benefits .. and yeah a ugly midget wont cut it ... but most men are inbetween and perfectly able ... if they PUT THE WORK IN... and dont whine that they cant have a chads life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:21 PM
-4

of course he can. every "average" man is just a whiney pussy with miniscule social skills ... nothing unachivable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:19 PM
-6

you dont need to be "average joe"... of course "cliche chad" will have it pretty easy to lay a lot of pipe ... but its not that hard to have a healthy and varied sex life if you are a normal man that decides he wants to have a "wild phase"... hit the gym, read the books, get out, get out there, party, trial and error.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:18 PM
2

"low" as in 0-1 is kinda iffy ... cause women that like sex... tend to have sex....
/r/seduction25/06/21 02:28 PM
11

most people dont understand that. for most people ambition = job = money. no ambition for money = lazy. money but you dont spend it on "mature" stuff = peter pan manchild.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 02:08 PM
3

crap. its a novel... and a very very old one. its a funny read but you wont draw any meaningful conclusions out there. its very US centric ... and very outdated and shallow. Stick to "Models" and maybe "No more Mr.Nice Guy" by Dr. I forgot his name.
/r/seduction24/06/21 05:27 PM
4

it isnt wrong. if you find something that you like ... stick with it. its called a personal style - and a very good thing.
/r/seduction24/06/21 04:41 PM
4

Read "Models" by Mark Manson. Its good - its no bullshit - its relatable.
/r/seduction24/06/21 04:33 PM
5

all this bc he presented himself very well. or maybe because he was her professor...
/r/seduction24/06/21 04:32 PM
3

Like what is good male fashion to you ? good materials, good colors - fits to your bodyshape.
/r/seduction24/06/21 04:16 PM
5

nothing bad with shirts and jeans ... if they fit your body, arent filthy and the colors fit... you wear better clothes than many many men out there.
/r/seduction24/06/21 04:14 PM
12

thats very very oversimplified.
/r/seduction24/06/21 04:13 PM
7

as a man : i see tons of men like you mentioned ... and i feel sorry for them. its so easy to dress well... and its fun too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 03:16 PM
2

What type of person can't choose who they're attracted to? most of them? can you choose which food you dont like?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 10:39 AM
5

How do I attract women interested in this non commital safe sex? be the man they want to have sex with - while also remembering that every women wants something different .... and what people want also changes every day. be funny. be charismatic. be fit. be interesting. be sexy. be non judgemental. be where the women are. be yourself... and dont ever think you have to settle.
/r/seduction24/06/21 09:50 AM
4

I see beautiful women out and about all the time. I guess I just have no idea how to even talk to them since they’re strangers. what about girls that arent strangers? friends of friends, university, coworkers, people in your bigger social circle?
/r/seduction24/06/21 09:10 AM
1

yes. but a leader doesnt have to be a "hard working man". who is a leader - jeff bezos - or millions of hard working men doing the hard work packing amazon stuff? "hard work" isnt something you should be proud of. beta man are proud because they work hard and "provide".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 09:08 PM
1

tons of people would argue that Gallileo,Darwin and Newton ... Also Shakespeare ARE Beta men ... cause they dont have big muscles and science+art is only for beta man. but i do think thats a very dumb view of "alpha and beta". foremost an "alpha" is somebody that is respected by men. a hard working and disciplined factory worker isnt an "alpha"... he could be... but he isnt an alpha because he is an hard working factory worker. an alpha doesnt have to be "hard working" to be an alpha... most peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 07:55 PM
8

true. i know a very attractive guy that fucks everything with a pulse and a hole that is in reach (and with tinder... thats a lot)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 05:45 PM
1

yes. just the body smell and sweat smells very different between different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 05:19 PM
1

the "serious hard working disciplined man" is just a glorified beta bucks. stop gloryfing those traits... its propaganda to make beta men feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 09:35 AM
2

i dont think its a german thing... marriage at 21 is more of an outlier .. or something that happens in very very conservative and poor countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_age_at_first_marriage https://www.marriage.com/advice/pre-marriage/average-age-of-marriage-by-state/ Utah is definetly on the younger side...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 07:24 PM
–

Everyone should search for happyness and satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 07:21 PM
4

It's all very strange to me. its strange to you that 23 year olds dont want to get married? i think thats the norm... im from germany and people who go to university marry at ~30 years... nothing bad with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 07:08 PM
1

how could men be more attractive for the female gaze?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 07:04 PM
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I've never heard of a man caring about a women's natural smell. also happens with men... im a man and there are women that smell very good - and women that "dont smell right"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 06:22 PM
1

"safty" doesnt has to be some cliche alpha muscle stuff. but you can be attracted to what you want - plenty of women arent into "viscous alphas".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 09:31 PM
1

dont think they loved them ... i read all these statues have small penises cause if they would have bigger penises nobody would focus on the quality of the artwork .. but just look at the penis. people 2000 years ago were pretty much the same as today.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 08:48 PM
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but bad because it took away what appears to have been one of men's biggest bargaining chips in terms of attracting a mate. i dont think its very flattering for a man if a woman is only with him cause she needs his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 08:39 PM
1

There are a lot of things that are conditioned. Greek ideals of beauty were different to our own. not very different... look at their statues and art ... most of these men and women would be considered attractive today... give them a modern haircut and throw some clothes on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 08:36 PM
1

Plenty. And i aint a "visious alpha"... but where i live nobody needs to be protected from the outside world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 08:13 PM
1

thats so over simplified and over generalized... where is "outside"? do you realy think you need an "viscious alpha" to protect you frmo the bad "outside world"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 08:00 PM
2

cops are in pretty high demand and are one of the cliche jobs that women lust after...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 07:59 PM
2

maybe he is interesting,funny,charismatic ... and that what he is offering. it is very very shallow to think that your car or your money will make you more attractive.
/r/seduction21/06/21 07:24 PM
1

its the same for men and women. men tend to be more interesting... but maybe i just feel that way cause i am a man. but if you feel that life is a "grind" that crushes your soul .. maybe you should evaluate how you live that life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 08:27 AM
1

yes they do. which men are on your mind? beeing a hollywood actor doesnt make you "alpha".
/r/seduction21/06/21 08:25 AM
1

531
/r/seduction20/06/21 07:29 PM
1

other people respect and like you.
/r/seduction20/06/21 07:27 PM
1

Providing is important as a guy. providing is important if you want to end as a beta baby daddy. "providing" is not important if you wanna date and have sex.
/r/seduction20/06/21 07:22 PM
9

totaly true. but i think its also a chance to weed out those women - just present yourself as "non dad" material very fast.
/r/seduction20/06/21 07:15 PM
1

but its true... so many people over 25 just talk about boring and mundane stuff... job,family,the weather.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 07:05 PM
1

men with a shaved head can be sexy - women with a shaved head ... cant .
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 07:00 PM
1

i think they have the chance to do so... because "older man" is seen as more desierable than "older woman". so its more of a cultural thing than biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 06:41 PM
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of course i would - but i know myself inside out. "probably not?" - sounds very very sad. why wouldnt you date yourself?
/r/seduction19/06/21 10:31 AM
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nice! but my dirty mind thinks of all those crazy "bro i got stuck" movies... :D
/r/seduction19/06/21 10:12 AM
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thats the sweet spot all men should be go for. sexually attractive, a good guy - but no one is bothering him with marriage, children or "mature and stable" stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 09:52 PM
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Sexual attraction is not all that matters. Maybe for the beginning without a good beginning ... the story probably wont gets better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 09:49 PM
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"Freeter" sounds pretty cool ... and i wouldnt call it "unambitious" if you dont want to slave your live away for some job. if you have enough time .. you have enough time to work on YOUR ambitions... and that may include having sex each night of the week or something like that. i like that - hope we'll see more of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 09:44 PM
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i only care for her life if it is affecting her in a good or bad way - i dont care for it inherently... unless its some passion or thing i think is interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:11 PM
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if you can measure the "sexual partners in a lifetime" ... than these people are 70-80 years old and from a very very different time that you hardly can compare to todays society and sexual world.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:22 PM
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i dont think i would vibe with an introverted unkempt women. and of course i wouldnt support anyone... why should i? if she doesnt like her job she should search for ways to get a job that she likes... sure i would support her with that ... and i would be happy for her if she is happy.... but i dont inherently care for the work life of my women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:21 PM
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i care for her personality and how we both vibe together - i dont care for her healthy social and work life... i am happy if she is happy.. but a "healthy work life" isnt something i value in other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 04:06 PM
2

yes. but it isnt like that is impossible to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 11:53 AM
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i care about clothes cause i like to present and express myself.. not to attract women. its a nice effect. but its not the main cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 09:55 AM
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"casual sex" doesnt have to be some drunk rando. a good FWB relationship or well communicated fuck buddys is the sweetest spot. people that know each other, trust each other, and fuck each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 09:51 AM
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men would love to have casual sex without much "work" ... trust me. i have a very attractive friend who pulls very easily .. and he is happy as a clam doing that for the last ~15 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 09:50 AM
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the majority of women have had 10 sexual partners or less if the "majority" of "young women" (15 - 20) has 10 sex partners ... i wouldnt say women have less sex than previous generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 09:48 AM
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"casual sex" isnt just a drunk hookup with some rando - "casual" can be sex after a cool day with a FWB you know for years. and most women i know enjoy sex outside of a relationship ... they just need someone they like, trust and find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 09:46 AM
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Its possible and realistic that men stay "attractive" pretty long - but it isnt a law of nature. if you are a unsocial neckbeard at 24 you wont be chad at 30. and there are tons of unattractive 30 year old guys as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 09:22 AM
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not that any of them have asked things like this on the first approach so could you give a real life cold approach example ?
/r/seduction15/06/21 11:38 AM
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could you give some examples about beeing upfront and genuine at the same time? i often block myself by thinking that i dont want that she thinks i ONLY want to have her for sex... but sometimes its just #1 in my mind... and i would love to have sex... without packing my bags and hitting the road after i finished like some mad man. but i am too lazy / have other things to do so that i dont want to do some "courting"... and maybe even let her think im madly in love or sth else.
/r/seduction15/06/21 09:32 AM
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It’s so unexpected for someone in offering myself to so vulgarly, to then treat me with the same kindness they had before I invited them between My legs. E why is that unexpected? it isnt an insult for a man if a women is very direct and says that he is hot... you make it sound like he should be angry or hate you cause you think he is hot.
/r/seduction15/06/21 09:27 AM
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A lingerie model working at Google won't be interested in a neckbeard living in his basement, and a doctor with a 6 pack won't be interested in an overweight woman living in a trailer park. You can want what you want every day for the rest of your life, but it won't come to you if you don't represent what your ideal person wants. i dont think these people "want" something different... they all want companionship,excitement,security, a sense of belonging... and other things are highly subjective …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:53 AM
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but will never lose women by chasing money. of course you will - the internet is full of 30+ guys who spend their youth studying and working hard ... and now they think women have to flock at their doorsteps... but that wont happen.
/r/seduction14/06/21 05:48 PM
1

In a world where most are bound by rules and restrictions, there is nothing more attractive than a person who retains the ability to act freely with unapologetic authenticity. thats the core of the "bad boy". a "bad boy" isnt some cliche biker bro ... and isnt a "bad" person. a "bad boy" is just somebody who lives life by his own rules... and thats pretty cool.
/r/seduction14/06/21 09:31 AM
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I always say that I am flattered and thank them, but I always say I have a BF why? and when you tell a lie ... is it also a lie that you are flattered?
/r/seduction14/06/21 09:10 AM
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yeah and i bet there are bikers who are virgins. its an archetype - and not a law of nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:49 AM
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yeah i think its great to have a "niche" and fit well into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:10 PM
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you could. yeah. a "bad boy" is just somebody who doesnt conform to societys rules and breaks the norms.. and isnt afraid of showing and communicating that. of course there is that "cliche" of a bad boy ... but it doesnt end there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:04 PM
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"bad boy" doesnt say anything about Intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 08:59 PM
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artist is also kinda "bad boy" archetype. a "bad boy" doesnt have to be a muscular biker cliche ... a "bad boy" is just somebody who lives his life by his own rules. "artist" is a cliche for someone who has a lot of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 08:58 PM
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A 6" handsome male celebrity who is confident enough to wear dresses in public isnt very "feminine".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 08:47 PM
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no. i dont care for a woman that wants a "provider"... so it doesnt affect me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 06:55 PM
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How could we, as men, benefit from that? how can we make ourselfes more of an attractive "fantasy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 06:54 PM
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yeah also true for me. i think body parts may be a part ... but men just see a nice ass... and thats just it... no need for any fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 06:53 PM
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"harder on life" is so very broad. but i would say the women has it harder... cause female expectations etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:05 AM
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look at real thaiboxing. most of these guys are pretty lightweight but would beat up any "do you even lift" gym bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:04 AM
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I thought my wife came from white trash. My parents did too. I still loved her. Turned out I wasn't only wrong but they are going to be willing us a lot of money. First impressions can be deceiving. redneck rich? ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:02 AM
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nothing stops "random working class man" to read a book and have interests outside of football (cliche..). also there are tons of dumb and boring "upper class" folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:00 AM
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I think its positive if more and more men see that busting their ass for your boss isnt a great thing to be proud of.. but on the other hand ... living in your moms basement and playing xbox at 29 isnt something to be proud either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 08:58 AM
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if you want to defend yourself you should go boxing and not go to the gym.... and not "carry water plants". a chubby / wiry man who know how to box will always win over some gym bro
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 08:52 AM
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yeah. but whats an "average amount of muscle"? i think many women dont realize that "average" indeed is "2-3x gym per week"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 08:46 AM
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"bad boy" doesnt have to mean "bad person". Thor also is a bad boy. a fighter, dominant, a god .... thor isnt some chubby dude who will vote for a new president who will save the earth while working as an accountant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 08:42 AM
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cause the more men know what and how women are searching for men the male pool for "short term" will get bigger while the pool for "long term" will get smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 08:39 AM
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we have to stop thinking that a "bad boy" is indeed "bad". "bad boy" is just an archetype. a "bad boy" hasnt to be a bad person. i think that confuses a ton of people. women dont like bad people. also a "bad boy" doesnt have to be a walking cliche. "bad boy" is very flexible and dynamic. there are "bad boys" in every niche. a "bad boy" is just somebody that works by his own rules, sets them and follows them - and doesnt realy wanna follow the rules of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 08:18 AM
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No. Thats Bullshit. People back then lived in tribal clans.. and shared a ton .. no one knew who was the father of a child... so everyone looked out for everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 06:58 PM
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im cheering for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 04:16 PM
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i dont think thats true at all.. in fact i think its the other way arround. men are way more cooperative than women... and women are way more competitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 10:46 AM
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depends.. what do you think are "masculine women"? big hairy women? women with masuline hobbys? i know a very very big and hairy woman... loud voice and very "manly"... she is married to big and hairy biker guy and they seem quite happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 10:44 AM
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as she wants... not as you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 10:21 AM
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why is that dumb shit? as a man... thats pretty real and good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 10:21 AM
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i dont think its so different with men ... the only difference is that the look of a attractive woman brings these emotions to us - without talking. but "emotional connection" is important too. you phrased it great.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 10:11 AM
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i think a "emotional connection" is the feeling that she sees/feels something from him... he doesnt feel like boring and gray average... he invokes something in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 10:09 AM
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Online dating has shown men all these women that they could "get". But it's a lie. if you match with them it isnt a lie ... its like writing resumes to get a job.. you COULD get every job... and when you are invited to an interview the chances are even bigger. but you also could end with no job ... that doesnt make job applications a lie. /found a 4 year relationship on tinder + a lot of short term people. isnt a lie at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 10:06 AM
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Children are a waste of time,energy and money. i am proud of every women that say she is childfree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 09:57 AM
1

Status doesnt mean "rich". it can mean "rich" but it doesnt have to. tons of rich people out there without much status.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:26 PM
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if one partner isnt ready - he/she shouldnt have sex. easy as pie. no one should "give" something he doesnt want to "give".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:16 PM
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someone can be very special to me - but be totaly "average" as a human beeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:15 PM
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What insane woman gives a flying fucktard about status if he is very attractive and builds houses with his bear-hands. attractive and skilled IS status. what do you think "status" is? # of followers on tiktok?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:14 PM
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5'9, a BMI of 29, 30-39, and has this body type visually that body type doent look that bad and fat? do you think thats so unattractive? and whats so attractive with money?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:11 PM
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why do you think "average" is shit? when "normal" is shit... whats "not shit"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:08 PM
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many women think they have to have a relationship to be a "normal woman", also money, stability, children,
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:05 PM
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No smoking, no drinking (not even socially), not conservative, and sharing interests with me. wouldnt say that are high standards... sounds pretty normal... besides the not drinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:59 AM
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the first doesnt offer JUST sex... if its a fwb he also offers himself as a person.. conversations,friendship... all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:57 AM
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Doesn't matter, it's a shitty label to have, stop thinking about getting labels from people you dont know... they dont matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:32 AM
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MY circumstances are a little unique because I was pretty much a loser in high school until I joined the band great example of social status. did you look the same in highschool and in the band?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:18 AM
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yeah but those 3 other people usualy dont care - other than conservative parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:15 AM
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i think in south america lots of younger people still life with their parents... so they go to clubs and bars to make out. in many eu countries people move out quite early... so they have their own spaces to do that. this and maybe realy low libido... winter is gray and disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:04 AM
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You're probably not in the US. The bar culture here is quite different out of curiosity - how is bar culture in the US? always thougth "bar culture" is pretty international? a place that serves alcohol ... you got here with your friends to drink and talk shit. maybe meet other people. maybe not,
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:03 AM
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take your friends with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:02 AM
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What's the point of going out to a bar and drinking if the women there won't give you the time of day? spend time with your friends. drinking beers. talking shit. see whats going on... talking to a few women and laugh with your friends.. drink some more beers. listen to music. talk shit with other guests. drink some beers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:01 AM
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as a dirty old man who loves both - young women AND drinking - thats great news!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:59 AM
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i would pack my bags cause i wouldnt like to live in a country that decides which websites i visit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:58 AM
2

no one should get married... cause marriage is an outdated construct
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:58 AM
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women shoulv have sex ... or not have sex... when they feel like it. do what you want... and comunicate. boom. profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:57 AM
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Some will ignore a woman’s desire for a relationship and still take the sex if she gives it to them. sex isnt a thing a woman "gives" to a man ... sex is something 2 consenting adults do cause its fun and a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:54 AM
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For most of human history, relationships and such was about duty and responsibility. Arranged marriages and such was the norm. great that these times are over now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 06:04 PM
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Virgin women over 20 are quite rare in the west .. and why not. sex is great sex is fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 05:28 PM
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not every common thing is a bad thing either... just because something is common makes it good or bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 05:18 PM
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yes and tens of million of peopel cheat... its quite common too... not every common thing is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 04:54 PM
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only insecure men want a "virgin"... many men are afraid that she will compare you to other men.. and you may lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 04:53 PM
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No. If you only have one woman you will ask yourself for ever "how does it feel with someone else ... will it be better..." same for women. i wouldnt like to have a virgin women... thats just an incel/tradcuck wet dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:03 PM
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when she is turned on by the validation of her sleeping with me im ok with that. she has to be turned on and doing it cause she wants to - WHY she wants to is her thing and i dont care... as long as we both enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:58 AM
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what reasons do you think of? no not realy... but i aint a psychologist and i dont ask a ton of questions either.. if we both want to have sex and we both seem like we are attracted to each other i dont care WHY she wants to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:51 AM
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there are women that are cool and interesting ... and that makes them more attractive... but they always were attractive. it just makes them MORE attractive. ugly jane wont get attractive cause she has a cool personality. but unfortunatley they are quite rare
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:10 AM
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how did you do that? if i cant stand a woman... i wont spend time with her. without spending time... no sex. did you just walk up to her - hey... sex? or did you hide your lack of sympathy and lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:08 AM
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Nobody knows what she was. But of course she wasnt "Venus" cause "Venus" was invented way later ... she could be the portrait of a real fat woman.. or something else... maybe realy pregnant.. no one knows cause there is nothing written down from that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:34 AM
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"beeing handsome" isnt something that you can define out of thin air. if enough people act like you are handsome - you probably are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:27 AM
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you can have friends and shouldnt base lonely or not on your romantic partner. but maybe other people are just wired different. i mean i also like having a partner ... but i dont like having a bad partner. id rather be alone and drink beers with my buddies till im old and gray.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:22 AM
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that sounds very very bitter. im a man and im perfectly ok with beeing single... wouldnt date an ugly women for money (unless its a ton and i could leave after some weeks)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:17 AM
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for a happier and better society. why should we care for "society"? "Society" doesnt care about us either. .. its like beeing loyal to your job and thinking thats something good.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:15 AM
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most women may age LOOK ok - and a ton of them also are quite interesting and funny to be with. but for a real relationship most of them arent a good fit for me. and thats totaly ok. cause good things are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:14 AM
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that always sound insane - but yeah i also know people who are like that. "fitting in" to societies standards ... and also they just cant be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:12 AM
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yeah thats a hypothesis. and sounds reasonable. but if you look at pregnant women ... that looks different
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:56 AM
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i dont care for "n count" in a relationship unless its pathologicaly high. a woman who enjoys sex.. tends to have sex. and thats ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:41 AM
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he looked great in them... he was well gromed and not fat (before cancer...)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:31 PM
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Poland isn't a part of Europe as far as I'm concerned, what? poland is right in the middle of europe and a member of the union since 17 years. german thing is that women: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristina_H%C3%A4nel
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:19 PM
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look at poland... not so easy there... even in germany a doctor got sued because she had a list of doctors who do abortions on her website. conservative people worldwide try to destroy female autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:03 PM
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If that would realy happen ... that would be very good news for dating. cause we would have a ton of free time for the gym, spending time with people and our hobbies. people would be relaxed and attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:02 PM
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Ok so imagine a woman asks you out on a date, don’t you think she’s desperate do you think a man that asks you out is desperate?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:33 PM
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you realy think "initiating" a conversation with a woman you dont know is something cool for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:32 PM
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innocent,religious and modest ... sounds very very bad. you describe tradcuck incels wet dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:49 PM
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I agree that the average guy is not be able to have casual sex that way. But he could - if he would have the confidence (and a little bit of charm) to straightforwardly and unapologetically lay out his desires. That kind of a man is incredibly sexy to women. Most just are too timid and thirsty to do that. They are so thirsty they will tip-toe around the woman to not offend her and improve their chances. But when you go in with the "I don't give a fuck what you think or if you reject me, I'm just…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:31 PM
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if you are honest to them ... no problem. if you are lying or dont tell them that you only wanna hookup while you know they want a relationship... you are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:29 PM
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those figurines portray pregnant women, not fat women and you know that ... cause you built a time machine? maybe you should write to the scientists .. cause these figures are a big big mystery. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_Willendorf doesnt look pregnant to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:26 PM
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No wonder majority of men liked it so much, and want it to go back to that way.... some men. im a man and i cant stand that "housewife happy life blabla marriage " tradcuck cliche.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:22 PM
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For what reason? It serves no real good purpose, its their hobby. thats enough purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:05 PM
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Morality? Goodness? Virtue? but why should they look for that? they would look for these traits cause a. it makes them feel good to be with a moraly good man - or cause they think a moraly good men is useful. you just broke it down to the very core ... its like saying "living is one dimensional .. the only thing we can do is survive".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:58 PM
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It's all about how he makes her feel and secondly how useful he is to her. that isnt one dimensional at all...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:57 PM
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i dont see anything bad in saying "i dont like tattoos" but to say "all tattooed men are dgenerated criminals" or "tattooed woman are sluts" is just ... dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:55 PM
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bitter bullshit. and you know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:26 AM
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it wouldnt "scare me off" - its like food i dont want to eat. a women who wants a provider ... while saying she is a "independent woman" is a recipe for stress and a very bad time. why should a man pay "take pride for beeing the provider" - for someone who takes pride in their own independance? the sex thing isnt bad at all ... just communicate that you think the other person is attractive... kiss...make out... what feels comfortable for you. no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:21 AM
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If someone truly found the other person attractive then they would want to have sex regardless of any acts of kindness, but who wants to have sex with a un-kind person? i cant wrap my hear arround al these women who have sex with people they dont realy like. so many storys "yeah he is an asshole... but the sex was great"... and then on the other hand you have tons and tons of those "yeah be nice ..blablabla" advices.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:08 AM
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It is about more than that. It is about the percentage of men that believe that society no longers provides them with a viable path to get happiness and meaning. That isnt the job of "Society" - you have to make your own path. thats way more sustainable and better for yourself than relying on "society" to give you meaning and happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:38 AM
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yes of course not. thats the point of "opting out". step out of playing silly games and childish "hierarchys"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 10:59 PM
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why? i dont limit relationships by saying that i need a marriage or it isnt "serious" you can have every kind of relationship.. without a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:57 PM
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then just dont have kids or share finances ... nothing of that is important if all you want is a happy lifelong relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:29 PM
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you can hafe a lifelong commitment without some government paper... marriage is outdated and something little girls and tradcuck men dream of.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:21 PM
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Later she will get her heart shattered as the man never intended to marry her. then talk about that stuff while dating.... you dont need to marry nowadays ... marriage is a outdated. its 2021 and not 1921.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:16 PM
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men desire an ego boast from sex and therefore go after the youngest, most inexperienced women, not necessarily the most fertile or attractive women. isnt true for me and many guys i know. going for "the youngest and inexperienced women" is very very creepy. of course often younger women are more attractive ... yeah ... but "inexperienced" isnt attractive at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 08:30 PM
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"doing nothing interesting" isnt a minimalistic life. a "minimalistic life" usualy is a life without much materialistic consume.. people who dont own tons of crap. you could still have a very interesting life and meet a ton of people... while not jerking of to manga. thats a big fat strawman over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:59 PM
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any normal women older than 20?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:56 PM
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do you think athletes that are morally good should be better than "bad" athletes?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:52 PM
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thats bullshit. im a man and i dont do everything for sex. men should stop thinking that way... we are more free than we think. sex is nice - but it isnt the only thing that counts. if you want to live a minimal lifestyle and dont work yourself to death - do it. even then you get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:38 PM
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The European society didn't stop to function when the plague killed around half of the population. it stopped ... but it rebooted
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:32 PM
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societies function and male sexlessnes arent connected. thats an incel dream ... society wont collaps if 60% of men stay virgins... it probably will collapse if too few children are born...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:31 PM
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what you're saying is the definition of consumerism hahah. no it isnt. you can spend your time producing stuff instead of consuming stuff... spend your time volunteering and make the world a better place... produce art, be creative, help people, the possibilities are endless. its sad to see that people only know how to consume.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:28 PM
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so then you should have no problems attracting women without tattoos?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:28 PM
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a women that want that her man should work 50h a week to "provide" for her and the 5 kids and every sunday should be spend at the church - is a tradcuck woman as well. and a man that wants that his woman doesnt take heroin on a saturday night is perfectly reasonable. it just depends on WHAT you want... and if you want that your girlfriend dresses "modestly" you are a tradcuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 02:48 PM
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i would loooove to see more childfree women over30. for me - and other men i know - the "problem" with women 30+ isnt their looks or beauty, cause there are many good looking women 30+, but they are so boring and mundane... they lost every energy or zest for life ... and all they can think of is.. marriage...babies...career...keeping up with the friends... and that isnt very attractive at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:49 AM
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yes! and mommy and daddy wont show up .. cause they are busy working and caring for little jimbob.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:42 AM
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its the other way arround... childfree living is the key to step out of consumerism and overworking... kids are a black hole for your money. no kids = you need a lot less money = can work less = more time for yourself and things that you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:39 AM
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Women who have tattoos tend to be degenerate whores oh boy... i seem to understand why so many of you dont have many chances with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:36 AM
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My child’s carbon footprint won’t make that much of an impact. yeah but if millions of people think that way ... it will have a pretty big impact. having a kid is the biggest co2 impact a human can make ...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:25 AM
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I mean, as with anyone else’s so it isnt special. stop making such a noice about your "bloodline". its a drop of piss in the ocean of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:22 AM
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and if they would have done that in the 70s we would have not as many problems as we have today... but those boomers breed like rabbits.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:21 AM
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doesnt sound like a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:18 AM
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a man that says such things is a tradcuck with a mind stuck in 1920... and every sane woman should run for the hills.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:15 AM
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women also need men for sex and reproduction...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:08 AM
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Guys worked so hard that we've made a world where things are so easy that we're becoming obselete men only are obsolete if they think that money and "providing" are their only qualities. we are more free now - but most men dont want that freedom... cause freedom always needs a direction and free choice isnt easy. its more easy when society says "work hard - get woman". and many men loooove easy solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:05 AM
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i dont want women to "need me" because of money or stuff. i want women to want me cause they think i am a pretty cool and interesting guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:03 AM
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i am pretty happy - most people that post here are unhappy and bitter about gender stuff.. and yeah some may just be bitter and angry people. but they dont need a marriage to be happy. /let me phrase it that way: if a man is happy with his part time job and some hookups on the side - he is winning. a man doesnt need to be a 1950s cliche or a "hard working and mature father of 2" to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 08:37 AM
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It's great until you get old or sick and there is no one to take care of you or protect you. yeah in theory... but there are tons of people with kids with children that dont live next door... you cant force your children to do that... and thats good. i my parents dont want me to take care for them... there are people that do that profesionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 08:19 AM
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unfortunatly we wont die all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:42 PM
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Im 35 and never had sex or dated a women under 30 - and i hope that will continue for the next ~10 years. its not just "beauty" - but i think a lot of women gets very boring when they are older... no passion and the only thing they can think of is fitting into societies norm of career,marriage,children.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:10 PM
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so how should we set up these "narratives"? how do we pull a girl at the bar into a little story? or is "met a mysteriouse dude at the bar" enough narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:56 PM
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How often have you heard about guys not quite feeling it because their "chase" was too easy a catch? not very often. that whole "men love to chase" thing is a tale women tell themselves. most men dont like to "chase" - they have to. if we just could walk up to a nice women.. talk for a while and then say something like "hey i think you are realy attractive - lets have sex" ... no man would miss the "chase".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:51 PM
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i think childfree is great for men and women! PPD is full of those strange men that want to live some sort of 1950 fantasy with a wife, 3 children and a white fence... and those nasty nasty women dont want to do that anymore. i would LOVE to see more childfree and happy women. life has so much beautiful sides... it is wasted time and energy to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:48 PM
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I’d be less likely to think this of someone who was standing nearby and told me they liked my band shirt or something though. yes you are less likely to think that - and those guys know that you think that way. isnt rocket science. a good salesman will start a conversation with you ... and wont start with - HEY WANNA BUY A LAWNMOWER
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:36 PM
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nothing will happen... as you said.... they never truly had a chance. and that wont get better... and cant get worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:33 PM
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depends on your location and what you think "comfortable" is. there are lots of low cost areas ... live in a cheap apartement or go full VanLiving ... start a small side hustle online for a few bucks a month. live childfree. boom. comfortable life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:31 PM
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this is the way!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:01 PM
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100% this. having children in this world/future is insane + having children is a huuuge waste of energy,money and freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:53 PM
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the world is overpopulated and we will see the negative effects of that + climate change in the future. no sane man or women will bring children into this world. also a childfree life sets you free. you can work less... cause you dont have to earn so much. and if you want to work and have a lot of money ... you can spend it just on yourself and your partner. childfree = best lifehack ever
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:48 PM
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and do you think thats true?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:38 PM
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why this generation? you realize there were generations and generations of people before you - who all belived the same? dont be so proud to think that YOU are living in a special time or that YOU are smarter than generations before you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:53 PM
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a man isnt "Failing" if he does what he wants and does nothing valuable for a woman. if a man is happy with his friends, his dog and his hobby while working a part time job ... thats great! he isnt a "failing peter pan" - he is winning... and i hope more and more men will start to see that. dont play by the "old rules"... they arent working anymore. make your own rules. live your own life. you only live once.... and funny enough - if you start living by your own rules ... women will come. cause …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:50 PM
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men and women should be ok without a partner. a partner should be a cherry on top of your life - and not your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:46 PM
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why is the love with god more "real" ? do you think god is "real"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:45 PM
1

sad to see that people think that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:29 PM
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thats very bleak and un-emotional. if you love women x you cant "replace" her with women Y. women y may be nice too ... but she isnt women x. of course that works perfectly well if you just see women as walking holes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:28 PM
1

whats your job?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:25 PM
2

so you think these women dont think that these men are attractive ... they are "forced" to have sex with these men by peer-pressure?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:22 PM
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lots of women DO fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:18 PM
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but you certainly won't be interested in a guy who stands over against the wall, no matter how physically and visually pleasant he may be so why do tons of women are so attracted to stars,musicans,actors etc? there are tons of groupies etc - and no one of them got approached first.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:53 PM
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Why would I do that? Cause you realy want him?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:48 PM
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If the guy who approaches is average I'm still gonna be happy. It's only if he's exceptionally ugly that I'd reject so you have sex with every "average guy" that approaches you ... i dont think thats true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:37 PM
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Because you're not really interested in men until they approach you if that would be true .. women should be thrilled to be approached every day.... but they arent.. mysterious.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:34 PM
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I feel like men will say yes to any half-decent woman who takes initiative. that is true - but men who usualy approach women dont do that cause they think YOU are so special and perfect - but because they approach a ton of women... and they learned how to do that in a way that is succesful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:15 PM
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even ugly women have men that are interested in them romantically ... but those men arent hot enough for her. and thats ok... but she HAS those options. its not ok to say "options i dont like arent options at all.. so that doesnt count".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:12 PM
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very true. some women seem to think men are just interested in having sex, drinking beer and gaming or stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:11 PM
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im a man ... and i think "liking somebody" is a spectrum. i wouldnt fuck someone i realy DONT like... but i have no problem having sex with someone that i dont like "enough" to be in a relationship with. that doesnt make these women bad people - i still like them - but just not 100%... and for a relationship i need 100%. if i only would have sex with 100% women i wouldnt have much sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:09 PM
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They spend obscene amounts of time, money, and energy on making themselves look as attractive as possible "but we do it for ourselves".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:39 PM
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why is it grotesque when people should have sex when they feel like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:26 PM
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There’s a saying to get extremely successful you have to choose 3 from the following: family, social life/friends, relationships, health, career. Most forgo relationships and social life rather than the rest. and thats how you end up as a millionaire with a drug problem and 2 suicide attempts before 45.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:24 PM
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Thats sounds as awful as extreme hookup culture ... both are awful extremes. have sex when you want ... marriage is an outdated construct.. nobody needs that stuff anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:23 PM
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"charming hot guys" is just another word for alpha... come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 08:31 PM
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Basically men in relationships are considered loser beta cucks. Meanwhile, "Alpha Males" who can get dozens of women to hookup with him are considered winners. cause thats reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 08:30 PM
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and all of those reasons are beta reasons. a real man doesnt have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 05:19 PM
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why should a man want a child? he could just burn his money and his time ... is that a joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:22 PM
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if my "payment" is sex with an attractive women .. im perfectly fine with paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:17 PM
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no. not all men "pay".... unless you see spending time and having sex as a payment. and intimacy you buy is worthless
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:04 PM
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your example is the wet dream of an incel ... but it is.. a dream. no young and hot women is attracted by the "good job" for a "quiet and nerdy guy". maybe they are searching for a beta... but that isnt a good thing for our "quiet and nerdy guy".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:52 AM
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i dont see that ... arent we all talking about leftist soy-boys blabla... arent masculine ...blabla? many do that by choice. they dont want to follow masculine gender norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:49 AM
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Sure, but then will society function? does that realy matter for you? if "society" will function? are you a vegan? does it matter for you if "nature" will function in 200 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:48 AM
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Stay at home wives are not the norm anymore. and they were a "norm" for a very very smart part of history in a small part of the world. for 99% of history women worked with their families .. including their men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:41 AM
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Women are kinda pressured and manipulated into popping out babies... and that s very much a sacrifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:26 AM
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