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It seems like you just don’t like women then 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:28 PM
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The problem is they often don't like the guy in question they are usually dating. They usually get with said men because they want a family, a relationship, and some stability. Can't say this has been my experience. The vast majority of women I've met/dated have been stable on their own, and prefer to date to have a relationship with someone they like being with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 08:02 PM
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What are some other good qualities about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 05:09 PM
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Men have to stop thinking that when someone says "Being X is attractive" it means "If a man is X then nothing else matters and I will definitely date him because he is X" Compatible partners have many different traits that will align, not just one. Being funny helps you seem more attractive than you would be if you were not funny at all. However, you also still need to have the looks, the charm, among other things for maximum dating success.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 05:08 PM
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I can only speak for myself here, but the men I see being sought after/chased by women I have a hard time believing they'd be in the top 10% of men lookswise. All around me, I see perfectly normal, average man existing with devoted and caring partners. I see men without model tier looks, without six packs, without these stereotypical god-tier looks with perfectly lovely women who fawn over him. Overall though, yes, people want to be in relationships with a person they find attractive. That's pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:17 PM
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No not because I say so, it's just because you won't. You seem to ask a lot of questions stemming from singular and controversial sources and are confused about how some people might have rare opinions on things. I suspect you do it on purpose, since you almost never take the comments given to you to heart. You're not a genuine person. And it's a shame. Take care!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:22 PM
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Meh you won’t learn
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:39 PM
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Maybe! Maybe not! Doesn't really matter either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 04:22 PM
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It doesn't really make sense to include it. It makes your questions not seem genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 04:09 PM
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I don't want to change my need for validation You don't have to change your need for validation though? I don't get why you think that's a requirement. I have a need for validation as well, and suffer(ed) from low self esteem. My 20s and a chunk of my early 30s were a major flux in feeling bad about myself and not getting validation I needed. My therapist told me something similar that yours told you, and what I wanted (and was able to change) was to feel more confident in myself in the present …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:58 PM
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Eh, I think many would. The vast majority would not. No way for anyone to know for certain. There is a "let" here. The reason you "let" yourself believe it is because of low self esteem. It feels uncontrollable, which is why you don't think it's a "let," but it is. It's a mental block. It's self sabotage and defeat. It's a shame, and I hate that you and others like you feel that way, but it's 100% a "let" and there are ways to help fix that. Our anxieties and intrusive thoughts are what is in co…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:43 PM
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I would say the 55 year old looks better, yes. You then say college aged women look far too young. That’s a morality statement It's not a morality statement, it's a statement of my opinion of looks. In my opinion, college age women look like kids. It is not a shaming comment either. I just said who looks better In general, I think older women look better than younger women. We're talking about in-person interactions right? And we're talking about women we're attracted to right? In general, if I …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:38 PM
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Nobody, even the woman, even the man, knows for sure if she would have said yes at the time. I'm currently dating a woman who partied in the past. I'm sure she had hookups in college. She is dating me now and has told me that I'm safe and dependable. Would she have hooked up with me in college? Probably not! I wasn't into the party girls in college, and she might not have been into me! But maybe she would have! Neither of us know. We met in our 30s. However, she chooses to be with me every day. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:12 PM
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Why add the disclaimer when you're only asking about our individual opinions about specific advice that has been given? It's like you're asking a group of people "Hey, do you like fancy restaurants? BY THE WAY NOT ALL WOMEN! NOT ALL MEN!!@"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:08 PM
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Well we are on two wavelengths Yes. And a third man is going to be on a third different wavelength. And fourth man is on a fourth. And so on. There are actually many more types of men out there than just two I put a very high value on physical attractiveness, so you'd be wrong in your assertion. I don't date, nor do I sleep with someone, unless I am physically attracted to them. I don't need anyone to mother me or help me either, and similarly, I don't want to be some guide/provider/father figur…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:05 PM
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I'm a 35 year old man. Taking two women of equal caliber attractiveness, I'd likely be taking the 55 year old woman over the 21 year old. And I'm bffr. 21 year olds I do not relate to at all. Even in my 20s I was generally going for more attractive women in their 30s over college students. Kids are dumb. I'd like to not date one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:25 PM
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Thanks! There are probably more women around you like that than women who are acting like the way you describe in your OP
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:09 PM
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I guess I just don’t meet a lot of women like this, nor care to think much about them. I’ve been called gay for rejecting someone maybe twice in my life? And I don’t care enough about them to know if they were being hypocritical about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 03:26 PM
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What's your birth defect?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 08:35 PM
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What makes her a hoe? That she slept with a guy who made a move instead of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 08:34 PM
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A lot (a LOT) of RP men have fought me on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 08:19 PM
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I don't think I've ever met a woman like this. How would one be so offended that they aren't the very first person that someone asks out? That's crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 02:50 PM
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I know it's not. I'm referring to the comment, not OP's post
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:29 PM
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Not sure what you mean by this or why it's relevant. It doesn't seem to be across the board either. I go based off the conversations and events in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:35 PM
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I'm a man and I def agree with the other user. I don't know why a man wouldn't choose an educated woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:08 PM
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Not that rare where I'm from.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:06 PM
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Nobody here can accurately predict what this man or any man would choose. It completely depends on his personal outlook and priorities. We can only speak for ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:06 PM
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Glad we've moved away from never at least. Yes, romance is a struggle. Welcome to the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 05:39 PM
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So what? someone who never gets to have sex deserves it? I deserve this? Nope. Nothing I've said should indicate that. I'm saying you likely have fixable things that can improve your standing and make you more desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 05:38 PM
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It doesn't make you a worse person. Why would you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 05:36 PM
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Well yeah, I'm not saying being fun is all it takes. Being seen as a potential for sex is complex, because relationships are complex. It's rarely just one switch you flip to suddenly be attractive. Yes, for physically attractive people, it's undoubtably easier. However, for an average man, it's not like he's relegated to some fixed category of no sex for life. Most men can easily put forth mild effort to change his standing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 05:35 PM
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Could you cite any of these different surveys?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 04:02 PM
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Guys who have disabilities have to pay Many guys with disabilities don't. I'm not ignoring people on the low end. I don't think that they could never get sex unless they paid for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:58 PM
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Okay. I don't believe you, sorry. Would you rate yourself as irredeemably ugly? Do you have any close friendships with people? Would you consider yourself anti-social, or a deadbeat?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:45 PM
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"Every survey" meaning only that one?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:41 PM
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If a man is being denied sex at every turn, then yes there is likely something that he needs to do to change. Not hard to find reason in that. I don't have a problem at all with you paying for sex. I'm saying though I firmly believe that you can get sex without paying for it. I'm not chad either
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:38 PM
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Our sexual desires are just as important as everyone else’s. I agree You can’t and shouldn’t expect us to be stoic about never having these desires fulfilled. I don't But since there’s nothing we can do to have a woman wanting to be with us in that way This is the part I disagree with. I highly doubt that there is "nothing you can do."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:07 PM
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Well that's a very different scenario. Could never in one year though is still bold.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:06 PM
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"When they do the one survey" you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:30 PM
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Maybe that's what I could have been in another life... I find myself almost taking on some "big brother" role, where I see a lot of 20 year olds in a frenzy and I'm just trying to say that it's not how they think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:15 PM
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What survey? Are these men who haven't had sex? If so, then I believe that. Are these men who can never have sex without paying for it? If so, hard doubt, and I'd be curious as to how they came to those findings in the survey. you could make millions if you actually know what X is... It would very likely be different for each man. There's no singular solution. Young men seem to want a cheat code, left right left right A B A B start, and then you get sex. That's not how interpersonal relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:14 PM
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Yes. And? That's obvious. That would be paying for sex in caveman times before currency. I'm saying that the vast majority of man could get sex with a fun demeanor kind behavior and average looks What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:11 PM
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Another user said this, and I have hard doubts on this figure. A third of men would never have sex unless he paid for it? Not a chance. I'm sure many of those men might feel that way, but I'd put $1000 down that I could point out things he can do to increase his odds with little effort. There is such a thing as "the friendzone" for guys deemed not attractive enough. Yeah, it's called "now you have a friend." That's part of what connections are. You meet people, they like being around you, more p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:09 PM
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I'm so glad I'm in my 30s lol. I missed this wave when I was younger and this sort of thought process sounds exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:06 PM
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What makes you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:05 PM
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(X) Doubt You want to look me in the eyes and tell me that 30% of the male population could never have sex unless he paid for it? Never ever? No matter what he did? Doubt. Doubt so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:04 PM
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Thanks for sharing. It seems you as a child were heavily influenced by stories, fairytales, and unrealistic ideas of relationships. These stories are not going to reflect in the real world, especially in the modern era, and are told with a very limited perspective just to bear in mind. Then I grew up qnd at this stage I felt happy that I never had a crush , I was a snob and maybe a bully but I hurt so many people who were in relationship, it wasjt jealousy as at the time I wanted to be an eterna…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:03 PM
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Well the thing is that I don't think it's an awful lot of people. I think it's a fair chunk less than 1%. I think the number is a lot less than what you think it is. Being fun to be around doesn't grant the reward of sex. I didn't say it does lol. Words matter, your terminology needs a bit of work I think. Being fun to be around is something that makes people want to spend more time with you. Through that, a man can easily find connections and someone who will want to spend more time with him in…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:41 PM
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I'd get to know this average guy more. What is he trying? How is he relating to these women? How is he presenting himself? Odds are, there are fixable things he can change about his approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:32 PM
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Another argument to why men need to raise their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:31 PM
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I would hate, as a man, to have such little control that I would lower my standards just for a lay
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:30 PM
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Those guys are very few and far between. Never unless it is paid for? Highly doubt that. Most men would be able to get sex without paying by being a fun person to be around
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:29 PM
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I don't have sex at my job
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:28 PM
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lol but it's not logical. You need there to be logic in order for there to be logical beatings.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:17 PM
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Do you know what any of those women do? I'd be surprised if there was more than one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:15 PM
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guys who pay for women they’re not dating (common to have a mixed group go to a bar/club and only the guys pay) Is it? I've been in several mixed group social outings and I've never been in a spot where only the guys paid. I'd be surprised if I've just been that consistently lucky buying women stuff on their Amazon wishlists, superchatting Twitch streamers, etc. This, also, seems uncommon outside of internet tales where, obviously, those internet people reside. but people tend to rate women in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:49 AM
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For example the guys cashapp’ing women Is this really all that common? I don't think I've ever met a man IRL who does that, but I know there are some desperate men in the world. I'm not sure I agree so much with your idea of how relationships work. I'd probably qualify myself as a decent looking normie, exclusively date above average women, and never felt like I was paying more than my fair share. I'd hate to lower my standards just to kill time though. More power to your chad friends but that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 09:47 PM
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I know plenty that would
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 07:55 PM
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Hasn't been my experience in the west. I've found great groups of friends who clearly and demonstratively care about each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 07:03 PM
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Maybe they think it's a funny joke
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:59 PM
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So then that would make complete sense why that person would not be sought after.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:25 PM
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I thought ooft-doofy was just like theater kid energy. Tons of chads are oofy doofy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:24 PM
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if you had to spend more than the other guy before sex then that's the distinction. Okay how is that determined? A lot of room for error in this description. So if a woman has ever had a ONS then every man, thereafter, is a beta bux?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:24 PM
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What defines a beta buxx specifically? Can we establish that? I've seen several loose definitions. For some, it's a man who pays for everything. For others, it's a man who pays for anything (sometimes I've seen paying for a date would be considered beta buxx). Is this just a guy who uses money as a means to pad his personality? I wouldn't be surprised if women aren't attracted to this. If he needs money to have personality, then he likely is a boring man beyond that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:14 PM
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It's a red flag for me. I the context of the question, though I wouldn't say I agree with the terms that OP used.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 03:00 PM
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No? I don't think this is a result of privilege. Social dynamics are highly variable, and I've been around different cities and different groups on the rare occasions where I have been called out for turning down sex. The few times it happens, the blowback I get is minimal. The "most severe" reaction I got, a girl exploded on me on the sidewalk accusing me of being gay for not wanting to be with her. Several people laughed at her for it. Eventually a guy came to calm her down while some others c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:37 PM
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Red flag. I have no intention or desire to date a "disney adult." I find them to be grating and our interests just, overall, do not align. I'm friends with some, I like them in doses, but when it comes to our overall interests we would not get along. Fanfiction I can accept more easily though. I'm not above that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:18 PM
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I don't think I've ever been dogged that hard I guess. From one or two people here and there, maybe, but the dogging lasts for about 30 seconds and then I can move on. I'm more than happy to deny sex when offered by someone I don't want to have sex with. The vast (vast vast) majority of the time, people don't really care that much when I turn down sex. I'm in the US, for the record, if that paints a clearer picture. I'm not saying this is the norm, but it does happen. Well yeah of course it happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:14 PM
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She hasn't. I'm hotter than all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:03 PM
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What serious negative consequences? How many people will know about a simple rejection? As a straight man who has been accused of being gay once when I rejected a woman, everyone who witnessed it only laughed at her, and there was very little/none negative effect on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:03 PM
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I'm quite sure that I'm not. I don't even have children. I'm curious why you'd expect a woman to pay for everything in a relationship though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 01:39 PM
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And in most couples I know (well), the women treat their husbands quite well So it’s not so one sided
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 01:12 PM
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Cool. I'm more of a purist. I don't think one dumb spending habit justifies another. If you're suggesting we have better public facilities, then sure! I don't see what would be the option specifically for men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:54 PM
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Get after it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:53 PM
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But if they have to pay for everything then they're not going to include you in their life. Shouldn't that be expected? Nobody in a relationship should have to pay for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:04 PM
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Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:02 PM
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Okay. I'm curious on your thoughts on the rest of my comment though. Also, where are you from that you experience so many of this type of people that are so miserable with their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:02 PM
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I don't think it's problematic, but I don't think tax dollars should fund cosmetic treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:33 PM
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I'm not saying it isn't a problem. I, personally, don't see or experience the problem in my everyday life, so I don't have any of the required perspective to have a solution for it. That's why I ask what would possibly be able to be done? Racism? You can't complain about racism unless you violate people's free will to think bad things about other races. They can think them all they want. It's racist actions that get called out for violating the freedom of will/movement of others. Sexism? You can…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:10 PM
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The second one I think is a pretty good idea. I think also a campaign that being "a man" isn't limited to one thing or one way of doing things as many men seemed to think back in the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:58 PM
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It was meant as a joke, really. I'm not actually autistic. Everyone's just got spectrum traits. Probably not the best time/place to joke about it though. In all seriousness, no I'm not actually autistic. People (including myself) joke I am because I'm into model trains and good with numbers and like things done a certain way, but by all reasonable metrics I'm not. I'm curious on your thoughts on the rest of my comment though. Also, where are you from that you experience so many of this type of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:56 PM
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A feeling that the men women want to fuck and date are different and mutually exclusive. Thankfully, they don't seem to be. A woman, in most cases, is going to want to fuck the man she wants to date. That's part of the appeal of dating, is having someone reliable to have sex with. A feeling that if women just want sex, they absolutely can get the hottest top tier dudes physically for that They, in theory, could, maybe. But who's to say that she would?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:49 PM
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If they can be, then therein lies the privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:45 PM
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Okay so let's focus on dating then. Where did you find the information about how most violence against women in relationships is reciprocal?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:45 PM
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Straight, male, cis, midwestern american, a tasteful autistic in that I love trains and routine but pretty social. That is literally how every single married man describes marriage to their friends. If not in jest, they often do it in literal terms. Yeah, not with most of my friends (some, sure. Most, no). Not my brother. I'm just saying what I've heard when I talk to them. Are you serious? Yes. I'd say most of my female friends are also attractive women that I'm friends with because I enjoy the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:17 PM
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...oh so you're fully lost huh
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:42 PM
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I am saying that the average modern woman is worse than a sweat shop for a good reason I can't really see how. I've dated modern women. From my understandings of a sweatshop, it's long grueling hours, little to no benefit, shit pay, and a harsh environment. My dating experience has been nothing like that. My friendships with women have been nothing like that. The friends I have are generous and loyal, the relationships I have had have been largely full of mutual benefit and comfort, I don't see …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:41 PM
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I find it odd how many men have such vastly different dating experiences, but still think to call this "the norm." Your dating life is equated to working in a sweat shop? Honestly? Simple things like being a bit quieter, being a bit more pleasant, not being so emotional or just letting a guy enjoy his peace could transform any modern woman, yet they refuse. I mean, why would these women want to be "transformed"? Is that going to be a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 03:11 PM
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Dang the vast majority of women I've dated don't have this sort of philosophy. Am I really that lucky that I happen to always be meeting this small minority of women who are happy to spend money on me?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 03:06 PM
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Women want what they want, but how they engage with what they don't want, how much they punish men who are a mixed bag (they've got some things they like, some things they don't), how much social space is afforded to imperfect but worthwhile people who have strengths worth appreciating, that's a function of culture. In what ways are those men being punished? Is "not dating" being punished? Or rejected? Because, to me, that doesn't feel like it's punishment. It's like saying a company is punishin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:56 PM
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Not from what I've seen lol. You don't think there are men who can be useless?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:51 PM
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...in dating or as a whole? I thought we were talking about dating in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:50 PM
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Easy: good people don't support illicit drug dealers or waste their time and money on selfish hedonism like drinking and partying. So yes, someone who abstains from that and uses their life more wisely is morally better. As a whole? There are a lot of ways to judge "goodness." A man can party and also be a good contributing member to his community and neighbors. A man can abstain from all of that and treat others, especially those less than him, with scorn and contempt. It's a narrow metric is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:49 PM
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"Yes you should quit cigarettes but also smoke cigarettes if need be, nothing wrong with that"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:45 PM
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Okay cool my comment was asking if I could read the actual post and the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:32 PM
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...what is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 08:54 PM
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Is there a place I can read it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 08:34 PM
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Well your tax money is paying for child services you don't use, so you feel like you should get a jetski. My tax money is going to maintaining a body of water I don't use, so I feel like I should get something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:58 PM
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But I don't travel to the beach, I'm staying at home. So what do I get instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:52 PM
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Less criticism and hit pieces would be nice (bc really you don't see that?) I mean, no not really. Most of the content I consume (besides here) are nature/conservation related, baseball related, or craft/hobby related. I don't really go seeking out gender studies articles. I have many friends who we pass each other messages of affirmation, and I was able to build that by putting myself out there and meeting the people I love. Nobody is saying there's nothing we can do, people are asking what con…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:51 PM
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I can't, I'm not near the beach. So what do I get instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:49 PM
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Nope. Men should raise their standards, always, and learn how to find happiness in living an independent life. Relying on sex as a means to be happy is not the answer. Don't put the cart before the horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:42 PM
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So you get to use a jetski while my tax dollars pay for the proper management of the water you use it on? What do I get in return?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:41 PM
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Simply less negativity and criticism would go far. In what sense? What sort of negativity and criticism? The intelligent people aren't seeing the problem that you're experiencing, because the itnelligent people realized that its something that you need to work on independently. There's no universal fix all for every man who struggles with dating. Male struggles are harder to market by your inference yes, but no less important. I agree, but what exactly is the support system that's needed?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:40 PM
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Well the struggles for women are violence, so the support program there is easy to market and important. The struggles for men seem to be getting rejected. What sort of awareness campaign do you expect there to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:15 PM
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I'd buy that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:13 PM
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All you said is you wanted a world where we have monogamy (we do) and where women aren't forced to live that life (we do). These gen Z women are exercising their right to not be monogamous. How many of those women are "complicated" because they're seeing one guy who won't commit? I'm 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:12 PM
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Thanks! Reading through it now, and this guy is...troubling. A few things to note: He is not someone who participates in the party scene, and gets "flicked at" (not sure what that means) by women on campus. However, it's surprising to me he knew so much about the goings on of women around him. I get that rumors get around, but how is he so in tune with the pulse of campus while also not being part of it? A number of comments kind of point to the kind of man he is... Hot sorority girls flocked to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:10 PM
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It's hard to quantify which gender has it harder, because everyone has it hard for different reasons. Some men have it harder than some women, some women have it harder than some men. Yes, dating is hard. Men, historically, have been problematic, privileged oppressors and there is an open push for men to be even more privileged in terms of socioeconomic status. There is natural resistance against that, and women are looking for empathy, awareness and acknowledgement of that fact. Should there be…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:35 PM
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My ideal world is one where we have monogamy, but where women aren't forced to be this way by threat of violence. I don't know if it's possible. That's kind of what we're living in now, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:32 PM
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Why would that do anything to change things?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:56 PM
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It's actually 10% of women. Find me proof that it's not, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:55 PM
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I don't know if you'll find the answers from those commenters in this thread though. The ones in those comments probably don't need women. The ones here might.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:13 PM
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Is this an encouragement for men to approach more?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:11 PM
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That's not initiating
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:11 PM
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So like social events and the like? That's a good idea. I'd say that if you live in/near a major city there are probably loads of options. Where would you want to go?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:09 PM
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How many women at 14 were dating 20+? Like I knew of one or two, and it was HOT gossip around the parking lot, but the vast majority 14 year olds I knew were dating other high schoolers, 18 dating 18-20, and so on. Dunno where you grew up but in Ohio this was sort of more the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:06 PM
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I've seen a lot of talk about how it's "unfair," but I want to know what you think would be a concrete action to take that would make it fair, without compromising on the free will of people to choose the partners they'd want to be with. Is there any idea you had in mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:50 PM
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I clicked the link, the site is locked unless I log in, which I'm not really that interested in doing. Googling "Michael's Story" links to a man named Michael who died at 26 as an electrician with a baby on the way. Don't think it's the same guy Is this a real story or a demonstrative piece? Was Michael an actual man who faced this sort of struggle and wrote about it? I'd be curious about his relationship with the women who tell him this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:46 PM
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Same as a good pair of legs, same as a woman who dresses well, same as good lips, pretty eyes, nice hands, same as a woman who knows about baseball. It's attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:27 PM
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What a weird dude. My dad and guys at his work parties told me stories like this growing up too. I remember a lot of them. Now that I'm an adult I realize how stupid they were. Why would you marry someone that you consider a 4 in the first place? Genuinely? You don't find her physically attractive but you want to spend the rest of your life with her? This is why men need to raise their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:26 PM
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I can't believe I hadn't thought of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:24 PM
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Well the other user said they don't show it in their thoughts and actions, so we've ruled that out. I can't say I know any hung men, or the sizes of any of my friends tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:23 PM
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According to what I just looked up, the top searches for PH were for lesbian
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:22 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:21 PM
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...it does for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:20 PM
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I'm not familiar with Michael's Story. I'm also asking more on the likes of personal examples from that specific user who talked about it in his life. Personally I don't see marriage material as an insult at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:20 PM
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Okay. What sort of suffering or disadvantages has being a good person brought you? Could you give any examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:16 PM
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Probably not! A 3 is a pretty bad score.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:15 PM
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B-L-E-A-K
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:15 PM
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What sort of suffering has being a good person brought you? Could you give any examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:51 PM
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When it comes to similar attraction though, I see being an amazing person get selected way more often. In fact, I often see an amazing person who is pretty good looking get selected over a very good looking shithead.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:50 PM
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Dead bedrooms more than often find their root in broader issues beyond sex drive. How can you pinpoint it to be a difference of spontaneity and health in respective sex drives?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:25 PM
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They would, but men actually have a healthy, spontaneous sex drive and attraction to women to an extent that most women don’t for most men. How does one determine this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:15 PM
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Seems that would be the case with women, yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:15 PM
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Would you say breast size matters for a man? A lot of data would show that men would prefer larger than average wouldn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:59 PM
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Slightly larger than average. Doesn't seem to bad. Is there a study with breast size? I assume most men would prefer slightly larger than average. But would you say that size matters for men? Most would argue no, even if they like bigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:58 PM
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Yes. The information that I've gathered is very different from the information you've gathered, so it leads me to believe that different women have different preferences. I'm only remarking how odd that there are women who claim that 5 inches is "too small" when for the vast majority of women the A spot is not much deeper than that in their vaginal canal. Perhaps you happen to be meeting women with deeper canals though!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:52 PM
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Usually based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:40 PM
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Yes, clearly. It's not about disagreeing...it's about acknowledging differences in action and result. All of those things can be true and you'd still be a KHHV. The thing is though that one thing that shouldn't be missed is that dating takes effort, work, and a good presentation of self. Because when women tell men that they aren't attractive, the men get angry. And when men get angry, they often respond with violence. That's something that the men need to work on, and if anything is only suppor…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:39 PM
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Sure, and I'm telling you that I'm glad most of the women I meet and associate with are not this way. It's a much more realistic standpoint IMO, so I'm glad these women have a better head on their shoulders than the women you've met.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:24 PM
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Your words, copied and pasted verbatim, from exactly two comments ago: Yes but I'm saying some men cant afford to hold high standards if they want a partner. If they pursue cautiously like how you are saying they will not find anyone. The only thing I'll say, is that I never said anything about being cautious, just intentional. Men can always afford to raise the bar. Always. Always always always. 100% of the time. Not being facetious on this one. This whole find your happiness stuff you keep spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:22 PM
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Kind of odd to claim how women think without being one, but ok. I've spoken to women about the A spot and I'd say at least half remark how that would be too much. I guess it just depends on the women we meet
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:06 PM
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Yeah I'd say that's even further away from the life I've lived. Most women I spend time with are pretty up front and honest about what they want, and act consistently with what they say. If they were upfront with men about their preferences, they'd be beaten, raped and killed on a much larger scale than they already are. Why do you think that would happen? Why would men react in this way? But yes, I have had conversations about my size with some women and what they're saying to me doesn't reflec…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:03 PM
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5 being too small is surprising discourse to me. Most women are probably naturally built for that size. Are these women you know? Do you express surprise or curiousity at those sorts of conversations?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:53 PM
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What excuse am I going to come up with? I would have no idea if you were right or wrong. I haven't lived your life. Obviously I'm right about my own life an observations. I'm surprised though that none of the women you've ever met were like this. Do you talk about penis size with every woman you meet? What's got you to conclude this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:50 PM
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Weird most women I meet IRL don't care. Are you meeting a lot of size queens in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:45 PM
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So many more women care, and they don't show these thoughts/actions...so how do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:45 PM
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I doubt it. Once or twice is luck. The fact that it's been pretty consistent over my life across several cities is a pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:43 PM
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Probably not
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:35 PM
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You said they wouldn't be able to find anyone. Those were your words. I'm glad you're at least backing that up a little but don't act shocked when I take the very natural meaning of what you say. Yes a man needs to find his peace but he defiantly needs to get out and make something happen. Yes. I agree. I don't know what part of my comment makes you think I'm against this notion lol. Some people aren't looking for relationships. So this advice wouldn't be helpful. Neat. My point is if you're jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:33 PM
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Social media is curated. The ones who are thirst commenting on a post about a nude scene are all going to be from women who are htirsting over a nude scene. Think about all the women who see the post and don't comment. Think about all the women who think that it's far too big but don't feel the need to make a big stink about it online. One subset doesn't represent a huge group
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 04:59 PM
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Now based on all the comments on this subreddit claiming that women don't care about size at all, you'd think that the only people who would have a positive reaction to this scene would be gay men. Why would I think that? Plenty of women out there are size queens, just as plenty of them don't care at all. Why is the idea that all women have to care one way or the other? A lot of women don't care about size. A lot of women will go feral if the dick is big. What's not making sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 04:58 PM
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...Yes. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 03:51 PM
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I didn't say incel. I didn't mean to imply incel. You're saying incel, but I certainly am not There are many types of men that aren't sharing their opinions on male-centric subreddits talking about dating and relationships. You're not getting a view of their lives through those male subreddits. You're instead (almost) only getting a picture of the lives from men who are upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 02:42 PM
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Gotcha okay. I personally operate quite differently. I suppose if I were in an open relationship I might have a similar way of thinking, but on a whole I have high standards for women I spend my time with because my time is valuable. I can't picture a scenario where I see someone as "so far from a possible gf" but still want to be intimate with her. You do you though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 02:26 PM
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Male subreddits are a great way to understand men's experiences (specifically of men who struggle with dating and look to a public forum to air their grievances, which is not a large population of men as a whole). I would recommend connecting with people in real life as well and talk with them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 02:14 PM
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They should. Men should, overall, have higher standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 02:09 PM
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Why are you so sure they would not find anyone? Do you genuinely think that these men are just incapable of being loved? And if so, is it really worth it being in a relationship with someone who is a bad match? There is so much value in being single to center yourself, find happiness in things that doesn't require a relationship (there are many!), and figure out the type of future you want and, subsequently, the type of woman who will fit well with it. Here now, you have a foundation where a rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 02:07 PM
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When you have threesomes, or ongoing FWB, do you have high standards or low standards for those partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 01:47 PM
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Women don't pursue men like men pursue women because women have high standards, which is what people should have when looking for a partner. They do pursue men who they are attracted to. Men, on the other hand, pursue anyone they can just in hopes for a night not spent alone. Yes, raising the bar lowers your chances. Instead of lamenting on that, take the time to be alone, live alone, find happiness alone. Then, you won't just be pursuing everyone in sight, you'll learn to pursue the ones with w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 02:37 AM
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Yes. That's hurting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 02:33 AM
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No sweat
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 09:22 PM
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Fair call, I was narrow focused on the saying of "stop looking and you will find it" and neglected the actual post title lol. It's kind of why I disagree with the saying as a whole though. In a parent comment I wrote, I read the OP suggestion of "men learning to stop showing interest" as the wrong idea. It's more about not letting yourself be narrowed in on finding a woman (any woman) to be with. Yes flirting and engaging still counts as showing interest, but I was not looking in the sense of be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 09:21 PM
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Yes. If a woman is looking for just a hookup, any dick will do, that's lust. It's a form of desire, as you say, but there is a distinct difference. Is casual sex bad and dehumanising? Bad in what sense? I wouldn't call it dehumanizing but it certainly can be a somewhat impersonal activity. Doesn't make it bad especially if both people acknowledge what's happening in that sort of relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 09:08 PM
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Right, because if you've been applying to 100% of the jobs you see narrowing that down will obviously improve your odds. Yes. It helps you focus your energy, focus the way you present yourself, make you more active in your choices instead of passive in telling every potential employer "I don't care what I do, as long as you pay me I'll do whatever you want." If you came into a job interview saying that, even for an entry level job, you'd be laughed out of the office. And please let me know where…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 08:35 PM
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In a way, yes. If they don't adapt their resume for the specific job they're applying for, it's going to hurt their chances of finding one that is a more suitable fit. If you have the exact same resume when you apply for a job at McDonald's vs a job to an art museum vs a job as an engineer, you're probably not going to get much other than maybe the McDonald's job. However, if you actually sit down with yourself, think critically about the job you want and what the role would be looking for, you …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 07:50 PM
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We're not talking about showing interest here, so I'm not sure why you bring it up in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 07:47 PM
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Saying men are so gross for wanting sex. Or women saying they get depressed when thinking about how men sexualize them. Even with the way women describe sex. They always describe sex as something men do to women. Not something men and women do together. Don't think I've ever met a woman like this. The vast majority of women enjoy sex, understand that men enjoy sex, like when sex is something two people do together. I think what you're hearing is the depression about how common it is for them to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:56 PM
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At some point we differentiate a romantic, relationship desire with a lustful desire. I don't know what word you'd rather pick. I agree, that it can be a bit confusing, but you have to see a distinction between a desire to be with someone and the desire to be with anyone. A man wanting to be with a specific woman because he loves the way she looks, acts, thinks, and feels is a very different desire from a man wanting to fuck a woman or girl just because she's a woman or girl It's soulless. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:40 PM
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Ugly isn't defined by the masses, thankfully. It's defined by the individual. A whole room of people can find you ugly, but you're never going to be in a relationship with a whole room, only one person. Anything you can do can certainly help your chances with a person who doesn't find you ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:36 PM
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I don't see where the delusion is here. Yeah if you're not attracted to the person why are you getting romanced by them? What else do you expect? The sort of big desperate gestures as a form of meeting someone are what is often seen as hurting your chances
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:24 PM
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Here, if you want an answer: A man sees a woman at the other end of the bar. They're passing glances at one another. He's attracted to her, but he's not sure if she wants him to approach. Eventually, he sees a moment where she is alone, and walks over. (I'm writing this woman as someone who finds him somewhat attractive, single, and is open to a relationship) 1) Desperate (bad): Man: Hi, you look so gorgeous, my name is Connor, I'd love to get your number and take you out to dinner sometime Woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:19 PM
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Why is that delusional? Attractive men can't be romantic?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:08 PM
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Words do have meaning. Read the rest of their comment. Men wanting to put their dicks in women or girls is attraction and desire, yes. That's lust. Desire, in the romantic sense that men often say they don't get enough of, is not that. We're talking about relationships here. The person you replied to never talked about dinner dates or waiting for sex. Stop introducing stupid scenarios and then calling them stupid as if it accomplishes anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:06 PM
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I believe in it. The missing piece though is what you do when you're not looking. I still met people, I still flirted from time to time, but because I wasn't so dead set on "finding a partner" I was able to mindfully pick and choose who I engaged with. It doesn't have to mean rejecting all potential prospects, but having other things to focus on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:58 PM
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It's not about "stopping showing interest" like it's some game or strategy, it's actually showing that you have interests beyond "I want to have sex with you." The reason people talk about this sort of thing is when you're not hyper focused on the idea of relationships, and you don't let these feelings of being "touch starved" affect the way you speak to women, is that when you can relax and have objectives in mind that are beyond "sex ASAP" you tend to find more women who are willing to engage …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:57 PM
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Yeah most single women I know are spending their free nights doing crafts, hanging out with friends, staying in and watching something new on TV. They're not chasing chads, they're enjoying their alone time until they come across a guy they actually like.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 02:48 PM
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Why not? Have you ever gone to Wrigley and gotten a Chicago dog with grilled onion? Beats the fuck out of just a normal hot dog with a steamed bun. Who on earth would rather cram down 9 plain dogs in a 9-9-9 challenge than enjoy a more luxury experience? Like I understand the challenge aspect, but is it really the more enjoyable scenario? I feel like you'd just get sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 02:47 PM
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Okay well I can't take your prediction as gospel. It could easily not happen and the number does not increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 02:45 PM
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I don't go to many night clubs, it's not my scene Parties, I see normal men with looksmatch women. That was similar to the wedding I went to. Also similar to bars and outings I go to. Dating apps I see single women, so...can't really make a judgement call there. The hookup scene in general I see normal men with looksmatch women. I see regular guys, some short some tall, all about average height, some bald, some muscular, some skinny...the girls crush on the guys who are charming and fun. I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 02:44 PM
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To what? 0.1% of the world population? Very, very, very few men are living a life where the best version of themselves are still undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 02:04 PM
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I'm in a major metro area, and went to college. This is 100% not the case. I see 5'8 men, skinny men, normal looking men with looksmatch women all the time. I just went to a wedding with friends coupled with guys shorter than them, guys who look like everyday joes. Don't exaggerate if you want your point to be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 02:03 PM
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Its coming to a point where a man needs to be a 6'2" well built male model just to be on par with a barely average looking, short, out of shape girl. No it isn't. It really is not. At all. Go anywhere. Walk anywhere. Find average looking dudes in relationships with average looking women. Hell, find average looking dudes with cute women. Look on the street, in the parks, at sporting events. It's everywhere that normal dudes get into relationships with normal women everywhere. Unless you live in s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 02:01 PM
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So you basically want to tell the undesirables (those who’s improvements will never be enough) These men are very few and far between.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 01:58 PM
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Higher standards mean less sex partners. Why would one do that if one wants to have more sex partners? Do you want more sex partners or more overall sexual satisfaction? Often those two are mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 01:56 PM
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And who exactly is supposed to increase their standards here with the majority of men already being dateless, sexless, and single already? The man. Who else? The reason these men feel like they are "starving" is because they're lunging at every woman they see, wanting to sleep with anyone and everyone they can because they're desperate for it. By being more thoughtful, taking a break, and understanding themselves better and what they want, they can be more conscious about what they're looking fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 01:54 PM
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Not sure where the lie is. They say something, they act in the way that they say they will...is it just a lifelong lie and they're swooning over actual good guys despite not really wanting them deep down?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 01:45 PM
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Mkay well I hope you learn to let go of your way of thinking. It's thankfully far from true in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 02:53 AM
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Not sure why you said exactly? I wouldn't agree with your statement at all. Women I know measure "good" by how he treats others. It has everything to do with morals and character.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 01:24 AM
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From the women I speak with, no, I don't think their standards are bad. I don't meet many who have unrealistic standards. I can't even say I meet any who say things like "they like handsome, tall guys who are also rich." Most talk about how they want to be treated, not about their bank account. The standards I see are realistic, and firm. I think many men fall below them which can make them seem high
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 08:49 PM
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Yes, those people online who are trolls typically fit in one of two categories: 1) Terminally online, don't venture out much 2) Don't actually think that or say things like that to you in person. They are just antagonists hiding behind anonymity. It's seemingly the norm in most of the western world. The experiences I share with others and the conversations I have seem to support that theory. The only times I see toxicity is online, and whenever I hear people talking about toxicity it's referenci…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 03:48 PM
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That’s what feminism claims in theory - but that’s not what’s actually happening. It's been what's happening on my dates. Does it not happen on your dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 02:32 PM
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Thankfully I don't date people online. IRL, almost every feminist woman I've dated has paid for or split cost on the first date. The two times I got the "look" to pay for the check with no effort came from conservative/right leaning women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 02:31 PM
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Weird. Everyone I know who says "I just want a good guy" IRL will also act like that in her dating strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 02:18 PM
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That's not dating, that's having a hot friend. We can be pals, she can be my date to the function, but I'd never be in a relationship with her
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 02:01 PM
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Yes. I think it's pretty easy to tell when a woman isn't interested. There are women who will act disinterested when they actually are, and I take that as disinterest as well for the sake of my own sanity. I'm not interested in games, so I take things at face value. The better answer is that I can definitely tell when she is into me. The behavior tends to be quite clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:59 PM
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...neat. What a novel concept /s Why are you responding to me with that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 07:20 PM
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Dislike. I'd be furious if I had to be in a marriage arranged by my parents, because I've seen the type of women they'd want for me and they're duds. I'd much prefer an edgy, artsy type than a rich well behaved tradwife.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:40 PM
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How have they treated you poorly?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:36 PM
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Neither. My feelings toward women come from meeting them and establishing my feelings based on our interactions. I can't quantify any feeling I have towards women as a whole because that'd be an impossible ask. Yes women get complimented and asked on dates without having to try, but more often by scuzzy dudes that aren't worth it. I don't really get irked by women all that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:36 PM
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As a man who has had long periods of being single, I couldn't disagree more. Most dates I've been on there isn't even any ask about my dating experience, or how long I've been single. When there is, every woman who I've spoken to has, if anything, been curious/interested/satisfied that I took time away to be single. To claim that men are viewed as closeted or "pedophile-adject" is absolutely silly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:10 PM
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With regards to dating prospects? No, not at all I would put 80% of women I meet below the threshold of date worthy, which if we're going off of an OkCupid study that's likely how these women were handling the survey as well. Fact is, the methodology of the study is a bit unclear so it's difficult to say exactly what these women were thinking when making selections.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:06 PM
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How would you say that bar get enforced?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 05:23 AM
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Sure. But sometimes they do. We can only encourage so much for two people who aren't a match to not get married and yet sometimes they do anyway. And if they find that it's been a mistake, they should divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 01:20 AM
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In this scenario, that one woman would be less likely to date him. Because of the s-word. You guys know what the s-word is right? The s-word is status. That one woman wouldn't want to date him, because he doesn't have the status of a person who has cured cancer. Where do you meet women like this? Seems a pretty unrealistic scenario for a woman to turn down a clearly brilliant mind (who, I assume, is otherwise also a perfectly suitable partner) just because he lacks status.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 06:56 PM
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I don't see what's so unrealistic about a woman wanting to sleep with 20% of men. On my end, I probably only find about 20% of women attractive, and that figure might be pretty generous. What would you figure is more realistic? To want to sleep with half of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 06:53 PM
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And I disagree. I think, overall, men's standards are far too low. So many men will settle with a woman who treats him poorly just in hopes for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 06:52 PM
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Option 2, no problem. Option 1 seems like a great friend, and I'd likely cherish her company, but if we're talking what's essentially a fuckbuddy I'm going option 2 easily
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 03:17 PM
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It's a shame people think that reflects reality, and if it does then it only shows that men need to raise their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 03:15 PM
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Expectorator? When that happens, those people that are ripping on men who are coming from abusive relationships also get ripped to pieces for it. As they should
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 01:29 PM
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A man never has to put up with being a free therapist. A lot of men feel htey have to because they'd rather be with a toxic person than have a dry spell, and those men need to learn how to be alone for a bit if they need to be so they can find the right person I see those sorts of profiles too when I'm on dating apps. It's very very easy to swipe left
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:59 PM
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So you feel you aren't in a safe space with these women you've dated...have you ever tried it out to see if you're right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:56 PM
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As they should
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:56 PM
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I chat with her often. I like to send her texts every so often letting her know I'm thinking about her, and I am I make time spent together as enjoyable as possible through shared activity I do little things for her and get her small tokens of appreciation that she enjoys, even when they cost nothing Ultimately I treat her like a best friend. I listen to her, joke with her, spend time with her, help make her life more enjoyable. Plus, sex
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:53 PM
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Funnier thing, most people don't lash out from a simple rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 08:44 PM
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There is no point in trying to explain to women that men don't have the endless supply of wealth they think... Because that's what the wage gap means, right? No, that's not right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 08:28 PM
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Both women and men have unique challenges when it comes to dating, especially between individual men/women in different areas, countries, etc. It's kind of pointless to debate who has it harder as a whole, because there are always going to be some men who have it easy, some women who have it easy, some men who have it hard, some women who have it hard, and all for very different reasons that are difficult to quantify against each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 08:27 PM
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This is a horrible tactic. Really unreasonable. If a woman blocked me, I'd ditch her. It's a clear sign she doesn't want me. Most normal men would think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:26 PM
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It's not if a woman is alone in her room. It's not if a woman is only with her girl friends. I think different women have different ideas of what makes them feel pretty. For some, it's dressing butch. For others, it's makeup and lifted bras.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:13 PM
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Mmm no thanks. My life has been much better believing what women tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:55 PM
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Chicken and egg. A woman dresses to feel pretty and it also happens to draw male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:54 PM
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I know several women who do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:53 PM
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The future is uncertain. People change. How you expect to react tomorrow may not be the case when tomorrow comes. Different events shape a person and can drastically alter their motives and emotions. Except I don't use learning as an excuse to not do things I did with my previous partner. I don't use learning as an excuse to tolerate less than I did tolerate from previous partners. I don't use learning as an excuse to do less for current partner compared to what I did for previous partner. Okay?…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 02:21 PM
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This is your first relationship, so you don't know that for sure. Does this not work for women? I feel like this is for most people, bringing things they learned from their first relationship into their next one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 01:52 PM
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But if it fails, your next relationship won't be bringing your best, is that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 01:44 PM
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Was your first relationship your best?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 01:16 PM
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I'm not familiar with that meme. I'm more familiar with the memes of men punching walls, screaming in their car, throwing fists when they hit an emotional break. Would you call simple tears "crashing out"? I wouldn't, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 01:14 PM
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I'll take that over violent crash outs
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 01:11 PM
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This is not a "who mishandles their emotions worse" topic, it's a "who mishandles their emotions more often". Oh...when you wrote Women being better at emotions has the biggest bullshit propaganda push I've seen in the last few years I took the word "better" as an opposite of the word "worse." I didn't know it could mean "less often."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 11:57 PM
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I mean, I've seen tons of women crying over nothing, but I've also seen tons of men crashing out over nothing. I think while women may tend to feel more, their reactions are typically far more contained.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 11:50 PM
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Why would they lie to me if they want to fuck? Seems like backwards logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 07:35 PM
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Well don't think of it as a me v you thing. You can take this concession and apply it to your life now, where you don't have to worry about women who are infatuated with serial killers, for two reasons: 1) They're few and far between 2) They're not the type of women who are going to build healthy bonds. So, you can move from this with confidence that the vast majority of women are happier with a well-adjusted man than a convicted criminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:36 PM
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It doesn't have to mean that. I have several female friends I've rejected a relationship with. That doesn't mean they're not good enough. It means, in several cases, that our personalities/long term goals do not align. They are great women. I adore them. I'd drop anything for them. I do not want a relationship with them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:04 PM
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The dating scene in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:59 PM
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It means Long Term Relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:58 PM
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I'm someone who is promiscuous, and I haven't felt that effect on my LTRs
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:51 PM
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People always resort to hyperbole when they're in a losing position. Who said anything about perfect creatures? Nobody. You only want to attribute a silly argument to me because you don't want to address what I actually said. Tell me, do you know women who are lusting after serial killers, or do you just read about it online?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:50 PM
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Jack Doherty is just the most extreme outlier. Well then there's your answer. He's an outlier. Most good looking people are perfectly nice people. Maybe they can get away with things, but do they? Is everyone who is attractive acting like a shithead and getting away with it? Probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:42 PM
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Hasn't had the effect on me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:15 PM
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I'd say no. Most of my partners and I had a very quick chemistry before we got intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:06 PM
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Thank god my city has much more interesting women than yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:05 PM
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It's not. This tired hyperbole is so dramatic. It prevents real conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:04 PM
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You didn't really head it off, tbh The counter was that while there are women who will do that, it constitutes a very small percentage of women on the whole. Yes, there are hundreds potentially thousands of women who browse prison sites and write letters to inmates and serial killers professing love. Let's say there are 5,000 women who do this in the US. Killers might get hundreds of letters written to them asking for marriage. It's crazy right? Well, if only there weren't 170 million other wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 12:58 PM
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You can start to assess that in conversation. That's words, my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 12:49 PM
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Women also do 1 on 1 hangouts with the boys they have a crush on and want to date. Then the guy starts acting whimsical and flirty and she responds to it because she is also being flirty. There is more than one option
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 03:16 PM
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One time an OK cupid study came out that was never verified and nobody knows the details of so I think that must be a hard truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 03:22 PM
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That's literally it happening organically. People don't just fall into dates with one another. It takes one person asking "Hey are you free friday to hit up this bakery I found" I hate "what are we" questions too. Those usually come after a few days of hanging out and flirting, which is why I have a conversation to establish things early.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:14 PM
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That's where communication helps, and recognizing how you feel in the situation as well. If a woman puts herself in the proximity of you, well now you know that she wants to be around you more. Is it romantic? Is it platonic? We don't know yet. Okay, next step, get to know her see how you feel. Are you into her in a romantic way? Platonic? You can start to assess that in conversation. You build on knowledge through gathering information in that moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 01:52 PM
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I don't know why you expect women to suddenly be interested in you if you've only gotten worse since high school. It seems you've fallen for the idea that you can just do whatever and eventually you'll find someone. Most of us learn that while being yourself is the idea, the key is to be the best version of yourself. You, by your own words, have only gotten worse. Real talk, you probably are average, and there are likely things that you can do to improve your outward appearance, but you just hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 08:49 PM
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So a Chad is just someone who gets girls? Then there's not really any steps to take to be Chad other than "get women to have sex with you." You don't have to be tall, you don't have to be muscular, you don't have to make a lot of money, as long as a girl is interested in you, then suddenly you're Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 07:18 PM
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I'd say, generally, woman's tastes vary quite a bit in the real world when it comes to actually dating. Do women generally find Harry Styles attractive? Sure, absolutely. Do these women generally require men to look like Harry Styles in order to date her? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 06:52 PM
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I got more ugly that I already was. Right so...what would you expect to have changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 06:28 PM
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News flash, society has beauty standards for everyone. It's a shitty aspect of commercialism, but that's just what happens. THe nice part is, plenty of individual people don't conform to society's standards of what is attractive, and they still love people with their imperfections all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 06:28 PM
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Well yeah I think it's a universal truth that people want to be in relationships with people they're attracted to. I understand the things you've done, but what about your outward appearance has changed over time?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 05:08 PM
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What have you changed about yourself since high school? What have been your most drastic improvements?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:19 PM
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Your downvotes are fun btw :* What rules are there that I have to follow for flirting and dating that wouldn't be covered by "don't be an asshole"? Could you list a few out to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:47 PM
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It's actually pretty easy for me to not say yes. I don't know you, so I can't answer for sure. I don't know how fat you are, how ugly you are, how much of it can be improved by good styling or exercise. If you want me to say yes, then I'd have to know a lot more about you. Your attitude certainly isn't helping, that much I know for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:46 PM
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I'm not sure you understood what I wrote. I said that women having different tastes does NOT mean that every man will be seen as attractive. The majority of anyone isn't seen as attractive, unless the group is "attractive people"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:43 PM
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Well I don't know you, so I can't say whether or not I agree with the notion that you have no chance. I will say that attitude probably doesn't help much
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:57 PM
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My bad, daddy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:56 PM
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Nah, it wouldn't. I don't really think there are many rules or win/lose conditions in dating and flirting, aside from "don't be an asshole"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:34 PM
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I didn't say "short, fat, ugly" now did I? I also didn't say most of them must have a chance either did I? Do you know why I didn't say that? Because I don't believe it. Don't attribute an easy argument to me just because you don't want to address the more challenging point that you have a harder time disproving.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:30 PM
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If everything is game, then nothing is genuine. You're putting everything on the same playing field. I disagree with this pov as well
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:28 PM
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Well, then that wouldn't include flirting/dating then would it? Not to me at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:26 PM
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If dating isn't a game, why does that limit who can take part?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:26 PM
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I find this logic pretty dumb. How am I playing a game if I don't even realize it? I'm being who I am. I act the way I act when I like someone and I want to talk to them. What you think is "playing a game" I just call personality and charm. There's no game to it, that's just how I am. I don't have a reliable laugh joke, the vast majority of the jokes I make are in the moment, and the others are just to make me laugh. I also don't know if I've ever once stared a little longer as some sort of test…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:25 PM
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Weird how real life disproves it almost daily
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:18 PM
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People said this when I was growing up too (I'm a millennial). Times haven't changed. I know men who are sub 5'8 with good looking wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:17 PM
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And they're in shape, and they take care of themselves, and they're driven to a career that goes beyond "gerbil cage cleaner," and they have passions, and they have charisma, and they've got a good social network, and they have good fashion sense, and...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:16 PM
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Huh...that's strange. I've had that instant chemistry with women, but I'm not the type of man you describe. Thankfully there are tons of middle men between "6ft+, Muscular and make lots of money" and "Paul the Petco Gerbil Cage Cleaner"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:15 PM
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How do you explain this discrepancy if every woman is different and they supposedly have tastes that vary? Every woman being different and having varying tastes does not mean that every man no matter what can be seen as attractive. Some men have mass appeal. Some men have unique appeal. Some men have absolutely no appeal to anyone. The nice part about this is that that appeal can easily change over time. The dorky kid from class can grow up to be a handsome dude, the start quarterback can let hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:14 PM
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If you respond to any of my comments ever again, or DM me, or tag me, or contact me in any way, then you are admitting once and for all that I am smarter, better, and by far the superior being, and forever admit that I win at anything times infinity, including from any alts. Any subsequent comments would only be you admitting it more strongly. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 08:58 PM
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Woooooooooooow just goes to show you how desperate men like this can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 08:25 PM
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Well I hope you never get into a relationship then. I'd be a shame for you to fuck it all up
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:39 PM
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So crime stats make you believe that in 100% of cases where a relationship goes wrong, the man is to blame?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:34 PM
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What makes you believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:33 PM
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What a shame
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:08 PM
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I figure replies should at least be relevant to what the previous comment said. If you have your own point to make, go for it, but don't reply to my comment to make it when I'm talking about something else
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:06 PM
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I was just explaining to the perplexed masses ...who? The people who think they want these women presume that it can't be worse than a lifetime of loneliness and lack faith in their ability to attract anyone better. I covered that already by saying that they need to sort out their priorities. What are you even trying to say at this point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:54 PM
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...your point was that men care about humor? Lol okay. I guess pretending that my point was your point works.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:52 PM
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And that's what I'm here to say for those who don't already know. A woman who is more attracted to a narcissistic person is going to be a poor partner. Hence my original comment: do you want the type of woman who enjoys a narcissist asshole? I'm not sure what you're not understanding here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:28 PM
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No actually you'd be wrong. Yes men care about looks just like women care about looks. Boring asf means exactly what I'm talking about. For men, being funny is going to play a big factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:27 PM
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Then I would say those people need to sort out their priorities. Why have a partner that would be toxic over living a comfortable single life?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:24 PM
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Actually, normally, the vast majority of men do care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:19 PM
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He wants a bangmaid, she wants a narcissist. What a horrible couple they'd end up being lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:18 PM
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If she's not funny I'd be less into her, so that would be a pretty big change outright. Being funny absolutely affects my attraction to a woman, so no need to attribute what you think to other men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:14 PM
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Personally I'd hate that. Why would I ever want to be with a woman who is into that type of personality? I think it would breed a bit of toxicity in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:13 PM
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An important question to ask yourself if you're a man in this situation: do you want the type of woman who enjoys a narcissist asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:43 PM
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Sounds like no marriage I'd want to be a part of personally. That sounds like a really unevenly balance relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:22 PM
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I'm not sure, I'd need a lot more specifics. What'd you do for your clothing/style? How is your hairstyle/grooming/skincare routine? What's your gym/diet looking like now in relation to how it was before? How long have these been implemented? How drastic were these changes?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:21 PM
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Which tools did you use?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:03 PM
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no, women being funny doesnt charm men It works for me just fine. I much prefer a funny woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:01 PM
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Yes. I feel like I have a strong sense of humor, and I want a woman who both gets my jokes and can also make me laugh. I met and have dated women who have, in my perspective, kind of a lame/cheesy sense of humor and I don't enjoy it. I'd much rather a woman with sharp wit who can banter with me. I take a more egalitarian approach to relationships. I'm not a provider, and expect a woman to treat me as much as I treat her (financially I can expect some discrepancy, it's more about effort). My curr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:58 PM
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So what you're saying is...that when women choose bad guys, it's not the woman's fault, but the man's fault for lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:29 PM
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I guess that confirms that it's not just physical looks that are the only metric of attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:28 PM
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My point is, how often do women do that? In my observations, frequently enough to say that comparing it to "winning the lottery" is laughable. They want to feel that relationships are a story. They want to feel that it is bigger than something that works. If a relationship is simply utilitarian they won't appreciate it for working well, they want it to validate them as special. ....isn't that everyone? That's what I want my relationship to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:26 PM
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I was responding to your comment saying that in order for women to avoid bad men they have to look for whether or not they take responsibilities seriously, have good hygiene, and treat women well. I'm countering that by saying that loads of bad men will take responsibilities seriously, have great hygiene, and will treat women well at the start. You made your comment in response to a woman that said, quote: It sounds like you are essentially blaming women for the existence of bad men. Nope. I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 06:57 PM
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In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 06:28 PM
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Throwing your hands up in the air saying all men are terrible and there's nothing you can do will never help you. Great. Nobody in this thread was doing that. Why do people add non-sequiturs into threads like this all the time lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 06:07 PM
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The men who are cheaters and liars are the ones who don't want long term relationships, it's their choice that the relationship is very short lived. You'd be surprised. These men who lie and cheat are often surprised/disppointed that a woman they like is rejecting them for their behavior. I see it happen constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 06:06 PM
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Do they take their responsibilities seriously. What is their character. What is their hygiene. I know several shitty men who take responsibilities seriously, have great hygeine, and will treat women well at the start. Villains aren't always going to be mustache twirling snidley whiplashes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:17 PM
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ts usually more from dont get desperate and settle for crazy Right, so why would men want to be bad in hopes of settling for some lunatic who wants bad men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:57 PM
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I guess my question is, why would a man want to be bad in order to appease some woman? Is that enjoyable to these men, to be bad? WHy please the whims of some stranger who may or may not sleep with you at the cost of creating a shitty environment to be in?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:57 PM
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That men should reject consent? No it's a very bad way to phrase it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:55 PM
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But the chances of winning the lottery are significantly smaller than meeting an attractive man who will be loyal to you, so that's a bad comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:33 PM
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What are the chances that she just so happens to meet a loyal Chad and he picks her out of all of his options? Not zero. Who's to say he's in the midst of women at any point in time? Who's to say he's not taking a break from dating? You make it seem like any man who is attractive just has all these options at the ready and is being slammed with texts asking him for a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 02:22 PM
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A horrible, horrible, horrible way to phrase it. Men shouldn't reject consent at all. You can easily be more forward about what you desire without violating a woman's consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 02:10 PM
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I agree! I'm here as a counter to the whole "women are lying" rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 02:09 PM
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When was the last time you were too intimidated by a woman's body to approach DISCLAIMER: not all women/men Not all women/men what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 02:06 PM
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In my experience a strong portion are. These men could maybe stand to get more of a broad opinion than just a handful of women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 02:03 PM
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For me most women are invisible, so that's not exactly a surprising or unexpected thing. A man can kill ceo...as long as he is attractive plenty women dont hate him Luigi did nothing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 01:59 PM
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I've met loads of women who aren't shy about details of what they like in a man, so thankfully there are plenty of honest ones out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 01:57 PM
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(this is where shit goes wrong) instead of prioritizing loyalty over looks for her next attempt at dating, she tries to find someone who is both a Chad and loyal, not realizing that loyal Chads are likely to already be off the market. The thing is though, relationships don't always work out. Sometimes the woman isn't loyal and Chad finds himself single again. Sometimes Chad moves to a new city looking for a fresh start. Sometimes Chad and his current partner figure out they just mesh better as f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 01:56 PM
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Are you saying that most men in relationships aren't aware of the fact that their gf's had ons with guys who were better than them in every single way? I'd say that most men in relationships don't care about that sort of thing. I'm in a relationship now. Has she ever had a ONS with a guy that was better than me in every single way? 1) I have no idea, I don't care enough to ask about her sexual past 2) Probably not, since I'm pretty great Are you saying that most men in relationships aren't aware…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 01:24 PM
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Not from what I've seen, thankfully! Boundaries have been seen as perfectly acceptable, and calling women out on bad behavior is something that people should do. The women in my life are quick to do that as well when they see a woman doing something shitty. Being a TRUE misogynist would mean they hate ALL women No true scotsman fallacy. With that I can make the argument that slaveowners had slaves that they liked better, ergo no slaveowners were actually racist because being a TRUE racist means …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 01:21 PM
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There are things that these men can do to improve their odds. In 100% of men I've met (or spoken to extensively) I've been able to find specific things they can adjust to be more appealing. The thing that these abusive men tend to have is charm and looks (not strictly genetic either). They know how to look good, and they know what to say to appeal to a woman's interest. I'd be willing to bet any lonely man who complains about this, give them a couple days with me and I'd be able to sort them out…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:06 PM
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Well why are you being intentionally hyperbolic? It goes against your goals it seems of being taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:40 PM
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You've tried not being hyperbolic and people will think that your question is literal? That's...a good thing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:08 PM
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Does someone have to spell it out to you when they're being hyperbolic?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:04 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:03 PM
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It's probably a lot easier to spell it out by actually saying what you mean instead of being hyperbolic in your question
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:03 PM
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Yes. I've seen women who don't know these guys well entertain the prospect of a relationship, and when his misogynist behaviors come out the women cut and run. Pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:01 PM
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Women as a whole don't do anything. The vast majority of women I've met, though, reject misogynist men quickly and easily. I've known men who are cheaters, liars, and any relationship they have with a woman is very short lived. Most of those men will, in time, complain about how women don't give them enough attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:30 PM
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Exactly...disgusted and repulsed Seems like a pretty bad trade off. Not much of a "badge of honor" is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:27 PM
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Why ask a question "Where have all the men gone" with a disclaimer "not all men"? If you know that it's not all men, why write it in your question?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:24 PM
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A person can change themselves, that's for certain. I've learned to be more interesting in my recent years, in part order to gain more appeal from women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:13 PM
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Yes your persona made this comment seem genuine
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 06:48 PM
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Being rejected on it’s own is not bad what’s horrific is the humiliation from women who find the idea of a man she doesn’t find that attractive repulsive so she goes out of her way to publicly humiliate him as a way to show the other men around her that she isn’t one to be easily attainable I guess maybe I'm in my 30s but I don't think I've ever seen this outside of elementary schools. Women who would act like this would just get laughed at by me. What are they trying to prove? Who cares? Anothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 06:29 PM
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At some point the lines blur. How much of it is a joke, and how much is you being serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:50 PM
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THREE WHOLE WOMEN?!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:48 PM
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except men know better but still have to tolerate it because if it doesn't work out with the one girl, he'll have literally no options Why tolerate it? It's much better, IMO, to be single instead of putting up with bad behavior. No options, so what? Less time dedicated to serving a badly-behaved partner means I have more time for my friends, my hobbies, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:39 PM
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Oh. Well the sub is a bunch of redditors, many of whom speak pretty bluntly about topics. It's not really that crucial of a stat unless this is your only way of communication with women. I'd be wary you're not seeing one woman's comment, seeing another woman say the opposite, and confuse that for doublespeak. I mean obviously that's not, but it can be easy to fall in that pit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:37 PM
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Being impressed with physique != desire to date I'd react similarly when seeing a specimen like that. Doesn't mean I'm trying to date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:27 PM
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In my interactions with women in my life. The ones I've grown close with have been pretty direct with me, and consistent in their words and actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:26 PM
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Oh that's been proven right for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:20 PM
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I've been based in Chicago, Atlanta, and Cincinnati, and have done significant traveling in Austin, Vegas, Toronto, and New York. Never seen a club discriminate based on appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:17 PM
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Doesn't have to be. I'm friends with a married woman whose husband travels a lot, and she'll go out dancing with us when we do. She dances with us, not random men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:15 PM
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Everything's always about you, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:14 PM
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People are inherently interesting. Many are not. Many are fickle idiots who just aren't that appealing by nature. I also don't think that being well-rounded is worth aspiring to, morally or practically. Why is aspiring to be well-rounded immoral? I agree you don't need to be fun, but being fun is something that has more likelihood of appeal to people you're wanting to be closer with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:57 PM
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You meet 50 people per day or interact with them? If you buy something at a register, do you consider that meeting the cashier? I'm interacting with people fairly regularly as well. Outside. That's why I said I have a pretty active social life. I'm out of the house constantly socializing. I've met angry people here and there, but it's pretty easy to avoid getting into a fight with them. If they're angry, I'm not interested in interacting with them further. The last time you got in a fight, what …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:25 PM
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My question; if one can have perfectly good to mind blowing sex with a complete or near stranger, can that sex be ‘good to mind blowing’? If so; how? Yup. Sometimes the chemistry just clicks in that way with a stranger. Don't get me wrong, a lot of my best sex comes with someone I know well, but I've also had very good to mind blowing sex with strangers just because the moods clicked just right. Sure, we may not have the depth, but the chemistry and fun can still make it a very enjoyable experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 02:06 PM
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Sure, and also unicorns are very real. I'm pretty good friends with a few unicorns. I guess they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 02:00 PM
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If you were in a relationship, would there ever be a time that you want to hang out with some of your old high school pals without her?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 01:59 PM
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Thankfully not
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 01:57 PM
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Maybe you need to word your opening paragraphs better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 01:52 PM
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But what are you wanting to debate? It's as if you started to debate "guns are harmful" Well yes, obviously. We know this. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 01:52 PM
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I'm a pretty socially active person, talk to strangers and have a pretty large network of friends. We get in arguments here and there. Not once in my adult life have I even come close to getting in a fight. Either you're encountering a bunch of crybaby men who can't control their emotions, or you're one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 01:50 PM
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Damn...you're around some pretty sensitive friends then. They need to be able to control their emotions. My male friends are, thankfully, much more mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 01:48 PM
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Or you could just be yourself. If yourself, as you are, is a bitter, jaded, boring person, then I'd def recommend changes to becoming more interesting, fun, and well rounded.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 01:44 PM
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Huh. It did for me. I've always been a pretty nice, soft spoken man. Attending therapy helped me get a lot more comfortable in my skin and process my emotions, and I've been very open about my growth journey. I've found that since then, in my dating life, women have been smitten over this quality about me. The current woman I'm with tells me she is obsessed with hanging out with me because of my positive energy and comfort in my own skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 01:44 PM
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You think a man being able to date multiple women at once is excessive women's rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 08:54 PM
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As someone who actually lives in the US, I 100% agree with the other user. The vast majority of successful relationships I see are with normal working men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 08:53 PM
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What if I meet a woman later in life, who didn't know me when she was in her "prime"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 08:49 PM
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These are pretty antiquated standards. Thankfully it seems that a lot of women I meet these days don't adhere to that sort of practice in modern dating. I've met several women who have initiated, planned, and even paid for dates, and it's not just with me. If men are picking the date location and traveling more...isn't that sort of up to them? Why aren't these men picking something more equidistant? That's what I do when I plan dates... I’m gonna be honest most women refuse to do the bare minimu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 08:47 PM
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All of those don't seem like platonic gestures. I'm friends with touchy feely women and those gestures would be over the line even for them. This is def more than friendly What makes you think she's not into you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:24 PM
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Thanks! I am :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:06 PM
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I'm glad I'm not one of them, thankfully! I find it much more fulfilling being in more long term relationships anyway, so I'm glad I've known several women who aren't so leechy I would say it's definitively pretty cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 01:58 PM
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Dang I've found a couple ones in millions in my life. Pretty cool
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 01:48 PM
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The question is why should women be interested? What's in this for them, what are you offering? Good sex and a fun evening.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 01:40 PM
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When I say "more" I mean relative to the normal. For example, if applied to me, I know already that my behavior is going to alienate people. That's pretty much going to be the case no matter what I do. Hell, I'd probably alienate you IRL because I get labeled more "feminine" in how I act. But, that's who I am. I'm okay with it, because plenty of people still love me for me. If I were to follow the advice, it suggests that being "besties" with women is a bad thing, and I should be more aggressive…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 01:37 PM
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It was a non-sequitur then. Nobody was generalizing in the thread, you came in with a hostile misunderstanding from the jump. Are you just trolling for negative responses or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 04:31 PM
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The comment you replied to said "each woman is personally responsible" to communicate, considering the more varied needs of the individual woman. If she does, and the man doesn't listen, then that man is responsible. It's not hard
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 04:15 PM
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Called it. Well, no you didn't. You just asked. Is it? Yes. I quoted the parts that illustrate this. I don't see a lot of use in alienating people on purpose is the thing. For example, I know that I'm not everyone's favorite, and some people might be put off by my personality. That's fine, that's the nature of human response. But why would the solution to that be to be more aggressive and alienate more people? It's counter-intuitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 02:52 PM
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Hard to say, since it's not like I was pursuing her for long without response. We both were into each other pretty quickly. My previous serious gf I broke up with her about 2.5 years ago, and in that time I had a few different flings with different women. My current gf and I met in March, started more seriously dating in May. Yes, my name is literally "grandpa." Did you know that on reddit you can make whatever username you want? It doesn't have to be legally binding. I'm 35 and with no kids. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 02:46 PM
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...what jokes would those be?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 02:41 PM
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It's nice out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 02:30 PM
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You misinterpreted the quote and made it about physical attractiveness, when she said nothing of the sort. So I'm not surprised she was short with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 02:23 PM
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I live in a major US city, and I'm white. I'm 100% in agreement that other men will have different experiences, and that's exactly the point that I'm making. OP's post said, quote: There is nothing wrong with being liked by women platonically, but once you get the "bestie" label it will stick and women will never introduce you to their friends as an option...You are seen as a safe guy for all the wrong reasons. It basically denotes "guy who'd never dare to think he has a chance with us" This pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 02:20 PM
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Yeah, you're off. Nobody thinks of me as asexual, that's for sure. I still date, no issue there. But if women want to have me as the "safe bestie," that's all right by me. I've got a girlfriend now, so I don't need anyone else to think of me as anything more than a friend. As the other user said, I get friends, girls, and I get to be my most authentic self. Pretty nice life!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 02:15 PM
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Even if you were right...why would I care? So what? We're friends. I'm not trying to sleep with them. I have other women I'm sleeping with instead. When I was single, they'd wing me at the bars for other women who I'd sleep with. One of them, actually, we did hook up for a while and I cut it off because it was making the friendship too complex, so I'm pretty sure she knows firsthand that I'm not gay. I'm not sure what you think is happening but I'm guessing you're way off lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 02:14 PM
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Of course. All I'm saying is the second path (the one OP is saying leads to being "safe for all the wrong reasons") doesn't have to pan out that way
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 02:08 PM
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Correct. I'm not the gay bestie, because I'm straight. They have each other to talk about makeup/shoes. They come to me when they want to hit up the bar or see a movie or get ice cream.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 03:39 AM
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Guess more men should adopt my principles then. Why get laid with shitty women if it perpetuates a shitty dating market? I stopped doing that looooooong ago and it's worked out great. I see shit tests as nothing and dedicate my time connecting with real women instead of headgame artists. Everyone talks like they're meeting the most immature women possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 03:38 AM
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Okay, so people have two different experiences. So it's silly to say something like "women will never introduce you to their friends as an option," because obviously, it's not never. I've also found it pretty easy to flirt without making a woman uncomfortable. Of course I care if I make a woman uncomfortable. I will notice and adjust my behavior or directly apologize if needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 03:37 AM
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I mean I've experienced many interactions with women who truly desire me, so it seems to work great.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 03:34 AM
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A lot of people also aren't. I'm in a leftist community theater, and you wouldn't believe how edgy it gets. It's very different in that the jokes are from a place of love, rather than punching down as a lot of older humor did.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 03:34 AM
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Yes, it is healthy networking. I think it's fair to say they need to push it in a way that makes them uncomfortable, but I just don't get why you'd want to create an environment where people aren't enjoying themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 03:32 AM
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Well thankfully nobody in this thread is telling anyone that. If that quote is something you’ve heard in your life don’t attribute it to this conversation, because that’s just muddying up the point. I do get above the shitty games by taking things at face value. People do still get offended. It happens, but some people are just crazy, u don’t pay it much mind because I still know that I’m respecting the rules that were laid out to me. I’ve never played the games. Never cared to. If a woman tells…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 10:55 AM
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What I’m saying is it doesn’t “just happen.” It happened because the man pushed further and she was playing some game with him. That to me is two toxic people who deserve each other. For me, a woman who sets a boundary will be met with respect for that boundary. If she was playing a shit test and now wants to make out, all I’m gonna think is she’s either A) a liar B) a cheater And I’ve lost all interest. She’s not getting a piece of me, I’ve already moved on
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 10:47 AM
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If she says “I have a boyfriend” to me there’s zero chance she’s making out with me later that night, so no things like that don’t just “happen” unless you let them. I take things at face value. If it turns out she’s playing a game that’s her problem and I want little to do with it. I always take no as a no and that’s served me extremely well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 10:41 AM
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This hasn’t been my experience at all I have a few women in my life who were “besties” for me and each of them have been wingwomen for me on different occasions. Even if they didn’t, my friendship with others is not based on whether or not they’ll introduce me to their friends. I’m also a man who has been described as “feminine.” I own it. It’s fine. Is it everyone’s cup of tea? Nope, but it’s the cup of tea for some and that’s fine by me. I like being he safe guy. I don’t need to be Dan Dangero…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 10:36 AM
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Exactly. That's what you're missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:47 PM
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A lot of men, I've seen at least, who complain about not having relationships will also say they don't have many close friends. That, inherently, is an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 05:09 PM
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Are you a misogynist? Same rules apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:41 PM
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all men are liars
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:25 PM
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Seems kind of silly on your part to think that, if I'm being honest. Not to victim blame, but you're admitting here that you just chose to believe this without someone telling you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:17 PM
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But will he be content with a 4? a 2? If not, he should preface all his comments about what he's looking for in a woman with "she must be attractive"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:46 PM
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If you can easily switch who has power over you, then you're not at the mercy of your employer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 10:33 PM
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So should men, to be fair. Any time a man expresses an opinion about women they want, they should always preface with "from women I'm attracted to"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 10:32 PM
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Yes, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:54 PM
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Yeah that's why I prefer Hinge in OLD
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 01:22 PM
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The downside is that I don't want to waste my time sleeping with/spending time with someone whose company I don't enjoy. When I was younger, I was less averse to the risk, but I've learned that it's not worth my time anymore. I'd much rather get to know them in a basic social setting first, especially if I'm going to consider long term. You don't have to have those standards, and that's fine, but it's one that's more for casual flings in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:45 PM
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I mean that's not really a good qualifier. But a lot of people I know are in relationships that I consider good, which would be ones where the couple are supporting each other, there isn't an uneven distribution of expectation, and have healthy communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:55 PM
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I also have not waited before. I've given up casual sex for far less. But for a long term relationship/dating, I am interested in getting to know the person first before going to bed with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:08 PM
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Maybe it's not
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:52 PM
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I am tall yes. I think I look decent, but not above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:47 PM
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I'd rather get to know the person I'm hooking up with first to even know if I'll like them. If I want to go long term, I'm even more inclined to want a date first.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:45 PM
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I've had that question asked of me, and I have responded with "something casual." We met up at a bar, had one drink, then went back and boned. I was honest, it paid off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:42 PM
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Depends on who you ask. Attraction is relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:38 PM
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Weird. I've been nothing but friendly to all my partners and they've treated me romantically
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:32 PM
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They don't force you to base everything on looks, thankfully
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:31 PM
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Yes. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:41 PM
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...men ask for advice constantly lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:41 PM
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Should men, in turn, start qualifying all of their statements about women they like with "also they have to be hot"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:56 PM
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It's not that controversial of a statement to expect people to like attractive people. I don't know why people think it is. Nerdy is a personality type. Most people, at least most women, are going to be driven by personality (as well as looks) when it comes to maintaining a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:51 PM
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Wow! That's interesting! So I suppose there are a lot of different types of couples that exist in the world. Some where the men are chad, some where the men are average. That's how the anecdote game works :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:38 PM
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How so? If a woman likes nerdy guys, she likes nerdy guys. That doesn't mean she has to like every single nerd that comes her way
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:36 PM
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Crazy how those aren't the guys I usually see in good relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:18 PM
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Good actionable advice is almost never going to come from someone who doesn't know you intimately well. If you want actionable advice from reddit, you're going to really have to put your raw issues out in the open.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:16 PM
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Getting a passport and travelling overseas is not going to be a feasible option for a lot of men. Improving their normal appearance is objectively good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:14 PM
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You've never seen the gaslighting?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:55 AM
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Why did she?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:31 AM
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So? Rhetorical says she can still get Chad. Why would she settle for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:20 AM
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Disagree. I have high standards and I like that. I’m not going to make it work with someone just because they’re agreeable. If they’re unattractive and benevolent, I’m not interested because they’re not attractive. I prefer to have longer stretches where I’m single and searching for someone who fits my standards than settle
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:01 PM
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Why is your gf with you if you’re ugly and short?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:20 PM
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That’s simply because you have great taste
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:38 AM
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Crazy that when you look into a lot of these dead bedroom stories (such as his, for example) you’ll see a lot of root causes that are changeable behaviors (mood, attitude, lack of communication). It’s not like dead bedrooms just “happen”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:54 PM
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If a man is waiting instead of going for other options that's his problem. It's not common for women to think of men in this way, because a normal man woudn't do that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 04:06 PM
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No, it's not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:55 PM
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Stop looking at tits in conversation my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:54 PM
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Seems like a pretty happy story
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:52 PM
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This is not "very common."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:51 PM
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In what world does this happen? If a woman rejects me early on, I move on and go after other women instead. I'm not gonna go around following her as she dates other men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:51 PM
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No I don’t. I agree that it’s impossible to offer discretely individual advice, but I don’t think the alternative is inventing generalizations. Instead, acknowledging the need for individual advice, while not immediately helpful, is at least more accurate. I don’t find the generalizations to be true, in my experience. I see exceptions to the rule so often that I find it pretty silly to consider it a rule at all
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:47 PM
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lol okay Maybe because you were hostile and I wasn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 09:19 PM
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Okay then there you go!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:07 PM
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Personally I think it's very reductive to women as a whole. A lot of RP advice is rooted in these ideas that "women do xyz," and those "xyz's" are rarely complimentary, but rather insulting. It implies a universal appeal that women have, as if they've all come together and agreed on things that they like and things they don't. There seems to be a major crossover of people who subscribe to the red pill and those who are more outwardly misogynistic. With how many men who identify with TRP also ide…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:57 PM
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Of course I don't. I'm just saying that speaking to a man, and saying something like "well you're the gender who sexually assaults others" is an ugly way of thinking about people, and a disingenuous way of forming a cohesive argument
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:50 PM
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Look, if you can actually explain where you think the oxymoron is, then I'm happy to hear you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:15 PM
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I love when people don't actually know what they're trying to say, and go with "keep thinking about it" like it makes them seem so smart. I see this sort of thing with flat earthers as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:12 PM
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And that's the context you ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:11 PM
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I think the reason you're downvoted is that people find that sort of attitude towards dating as unsavory, even though you personally see nothing wrong with it. Women who act that way are shitty, and if you're saying that you would act that way as a woman then you'd also be shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 03:39 PM
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It's ugly, but there's a little grain of truth in that. What a gross way to think about people. I'm sorry you feel that way. Personally, I don't attribute the actions of a few to the rest of the group
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 03:36 PM
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I view casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 03:33 PM
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I have, don't you worry. The question is about how you, a man, would act depending on how you, the man, feels about the woman you're talking to, not how the woman feels about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 03:33 PM
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Classic Igor ignoring the rest of the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:55 PM
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I haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:53 PM
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Ya'll are the gender cruising around at 25yo in the passenger seats of a wrinkly-ass 60 year old brain surgeon's sports car. I mean that's a pretty hefty minority of women who are looking for that kind of thing. You're gonna attribute that to an entire gender? Should we attribute sex offenders to all men, because they're the gender doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:52 PM
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There's no oxymoron. The question is about how you feel towards the woman. I agree, I think you're misunderstanding the question
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:49 PM
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I don't really have lines. The conversation changes depending on the woman I'm speaking with. I go contextually rather than having a preplanned script. To answer your question though, not exactly. To win over someone to date I'm a lot sweeter I think. I will put the vibe out there that I'm looking to hang out beyond sex. If I'm just trying to get laid, I'll probably be a lot more nonchalant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:47 PM
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This is some daddy shit. First 5 seconds? No way. If what you’re saying is true, then most of the women I’ve been with have been no’s or maybes that have turned into yesses
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:14 PM
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lol of course it does
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:13 PM
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I'm very happy I haven't dated women like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:08 PM
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As a man with emotional intelligence, good. Happy to date a woman who is at my level in emotional intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:07 PM
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Damn I've thankfully never had that experience. Maybe you're always dating materialistic women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:05 PM
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It's a good thing the world doesn't work like that where I am, in normalville
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:03 PM
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When you introduce yourself to people, do you always start with your flaws?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:01 PM
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You think behaving with decency gets you hammered down?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 09:22 PM
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Okay, so then when you see women act this way, you don't think they're doing anything wrong since their behavior is justified? I don't share that sentiment. I put higher expectations on people
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 08:13 PM
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Perhaps you're just the extreme outlier
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 08:12 PM
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Again, I'm asking about your wants, not what other people are doing. Do you feel it's justifiable to act in that way just because you personally benefit from it? I'm asking the same critical questions I'd ask to any woman who might think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:47 PM
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You find that to be a natural/justifiable reason to act in this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:42 PM
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I'm asking why you want to, not if you believe women are doing it I certainly blame women around me for things they do wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:34 PM
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In what sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:33 PM
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It's not. This top comment is so frequent and agreed upon by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 05:26 PM
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As a calm, outdoorsy, kind-looking, tall, alternative, nerdy, oofy-doofy type, I've never had much of an issue. I'm a pretty far diversion from the alpha mold. My vibe is supremely oofy doofy on my page too. My third picture is a video of me putting my nose up like a little piggy and pressing it against a restaurant window at some friends outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 05:25 PM
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Why would you want to make relationship guys wait? Why wouldn't you want to take accountability?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 05:22 PM
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Sparingly. I'd reject most men and hold out for someone I actually like and am attracted to who isn't a tool. I'd hone skills I'm interested in, say similar to the crafting and plant care that I'm into as a man now. I'd also probably cook and study engineering/design like I am now. I'd eventually date a guy I vibe with who doesn't detract from my current normal life. ...so I guess the exact same method that I use currently.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 05:21 PM
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I'd rather be completely invisible, gut reaction reading that. That's an easy decision. I don't need women I don't want to commit to in order to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 04:27 PM
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Seems pretty limiting
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:41 PM
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I’m 35
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 03:43 AM
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Oh hay girl The expectations are only placed if you let them be placed. You never have to worry about expectations of a woman that you aren’t dating. I have certainly met women who have expectations of a potential partner, but those aren’t women I’m compatible with. Who cares if she wants me to be “greater” and not “lesser”? Does she like me? Do I like her? If yes, then that’s something to build on. If you think you’re pretty awesome and have a great sense of humor, then you’re pretty awesome wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:41 AM
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Interesting. Maybe it's an age/region thing. I'm in my 30s and live in Chicago, and as a whole the AF/BB thing is clearly bullshit. It applies to some women, but largely have been women I have zero interest in anyway, so it has very rarely applied in my dating life. Perhaps you may be focusing on more materialistic women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 09:00 PM
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I think there's too much weight on what's "above" or "below." People sometimes are determined to have hardlined scores on things. In some respects, I might be considered below them. In others, weighing all the same categories, I might be considered above. Do you consider yourself a "lesser" man? Why don't you cconsider yourself a catch?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:55 PM
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Both. In some cases even, friendly gets my foot in the door, and my continued niceness adds romantic attraction. I've had to turn down friends who catch feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:45 PM
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I feel like the more I see who women date and especially stay with long term the less I believe the redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:41 PM
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Interesting. In my experience, what women have demanded and expected of me is nothing short of nice behavior. It seems that this is what they're attracted to, not "bad boy" traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:39 PM
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Oh so you weren't being genuine. Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:32 PM
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No it's not. The direct quote of the comment was this: They are attracted to good looking men, it just happens that some of these good looking men are bad/assholes because they can get away with it and there are always other women who will want them despite being like that. Your quote you may think is "essentially the same thing," but they each carry very different conclusions. Everything is laid out in the comments. So stop twisting the wording around in order to suit your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:23 PM
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She said "men like you" because you made a comment of a man for whom that sort of thing would apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:20 PM
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So if a nice man racks up enough of a count, he's suddenly now an asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:18 PM
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So if they're not acting on it, what's the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:16 PM
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I've found the nicer I act the more I attract women's attention
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:00 PM
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Yes. Women are attracted to good looking men who are assholes and can get away with it. Lol how did you get here following this thread? Women are attracted to good looking men, yes. Some of those good looking men will be bad men, and women will be attracted to them in spite of these traits, either bc they don't care or because the men will hide these traits. There are enough women that pursue good men who are attractive to negate the blanket statement you propose. You're coming in with a complet…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:59 PM
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You're kind of the one saying dumb shit now, though, by adding this unnecessary disclaimer. So I guess I am underestimating you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:28 PM
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This thread isn’t about your preferences. You seem eager to bring it up but it just makes you seem unnecessarily defensive. There is a fact based position, which is that morality (and preferences) are subjective. There’s nothing right or wrong about a high body count. Nobody is saying that you shouldn’t have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:53 PM
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Well since it is subjective, then it’s perfectly right for women to sleep around and have a high body count. And some people can remove moral judgment from the actions. Some people can't. Exactly. The point of the post is to help educate people who can’t
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:47 PM
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lol no it isn’t. It’s just to abandon putting labels of “right” or “wrong” onto individual preferences. You can still prefer a woman with a low body count without saying that a woman with a high body count is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:14 PM
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Is it wrong to go skydiving, because of the risk? Is it wrong to go mountain biking? Of course not It’s not wrong for a woman (or a man) to have a high body count or to sleep around. You could argue that it is for them to do so without protection/getting checked, but that’s a different thread entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:12 PM
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You can have preferences, that’s fine. To imply that it’s wrong for a woman not to meet those preferences is when there would be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:09 PM
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I'm saying those tinder stats give a pretty incomplete picture
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:23 PM
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Big if
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 04:17 PM
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Doesn't really seem to apply in this instance. If you're going to ask something like "why do men do this" then sure, that would make sense. "Hey have you ever rejected someone for being too perfect BTW NOT ALL MEN NOT ALL MEN!!" that sounds a bit insane. The disclaimer doesn't link to the question at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 03:29 PM
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Dunno why you put disclaimers when you're asking a question lol But no, I've never done that. That's insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 03:19 PM
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Interesting! One of my principles is that if you choose to tune out your partner who is trying to communicate with you then you aren’t a very good partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 03:29 AM
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It wasn’t though. I’m responding to their comment as written
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 01:45 AM
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They’re conditional ifs. The y’all I’m referring to is addressing all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 01:22 AM
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What a sad perspective. I'm glad the world doesn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:23 PM
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I go to bars, my local haunts, or social clubs like co-ed sports and local classes like pottery or music. I'll go out with friends and we'll interact with people through there over drinks or whatever. I met a bunch of people (and subsequently women) at one event where everyone jumped in the lake together every week. I didn't marry a high school sweetheart either. I'm in my 30s and just started dating someone who I adore. You're quite young with a lot of world to explore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:23 PM
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Okay neat. I'm addressing the illogical nature it to the user so that they might be able to think twice about what they're saying, and potentially modify their behavior in the future. That's how people learn and evolve.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:07 PM
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It's not about morality, it's about logic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:52 PM
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Nagging means continuous urging or fault finding. If there are many faults to find without effort being done by the listener to address them or initial urging is unsuccessful, in those cases, then nagging would certainly be valid. That could be the case here, we don’t know. Can you think of an instance where tuning out the other person is a valid form of communication between partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 07:54 PM
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We don’t know if she did before. We don’t know if the nagging is valid. But if someone says they actively tune out the other person in conversation, I’m already inclined to side against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 07:49 PM
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Do your best.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 07:30 PM
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What is the "bad" thing that these attractive guys who effortlessly bag women are doing to deserve justice? Let's already cast aside guys like handsome criminals and objectively evil guys, what other justice is needed?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 07:29 PM
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Damn you're really making it make a lot of sense why she'd nag you 24/7
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 07:27 PM
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I mean, he straight up says he tunes her out, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 07:26 PM
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If a woman is nagging you 24/7 then don't be in a relationship with her. That sounds miserable. Be in a relationship with a woman who actually enjoys your company.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 07:26 PM
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You never have to appease "y'all" (women) when seeking a relationship. Stop worrying about that. All that matters, when you meet someone, is what she wants. Does she want you to be emotionally available? Great, then be that kind of person! Is that not what you're comfortable with? Great, then don't be with her and seek someone else Why do people insist on asking "y'all" to make up their minds when the simple answer is that different women want different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 07:25 PM
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Do men reward successful men even if they show signs of being abusers?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:16 PM
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So why ask anyone then if you just think they’re lying by default?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 02:37 PM
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Yup! Dunno why you’re telling me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 02:36 PM
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Yup! The world sure is a funny place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 12:25 PM
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I don't deal in your personal social circle Just one comment before this you asked the user to “ask any woman you know.” Who else would they ask aside from their personal social circle?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:33 AM
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Because there are enough men who exist that are that it makes up a sample size
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:31 AM
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Everyone contributes to statistics, but treating an individual interaction as you would to a statistic are/should be two very different behaviors. Otherwise you’re just gonna be constantly bombarded with the exception that you’re not prepared for
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 06:02 PM
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When im on a date with a person, im never dating a trend or a statistic, im dating an individual. I never have to worry if she’s going to be attractive or if she because I already know that information going in
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:09 PM
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The probability discussion just never has applied nor does it matter to me and this MO has served me quite well. I pretty much always do the “I got this you got next” if not go dutch in dates, because I find it to be fair. You’re going to tell me about probabilities? That doesn’t really matter to me because, from the start, I’m already going to be going out with women who are attractive to me. So far, the probability that I’m going out with someone who is attractive is 100% I’d say the vast majo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:21 PM
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Worked for me as well
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:24 PM
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I do it often with relatively strong success
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:24 PM
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The “probabilities” thing is such a silly argument When you’re on a date with a person, the probabilities of what she looks like and how old she is is completely out the window. You now know how hot she is, you now know how young she is. If you don’t like who this person is in front of you, then there’s no need to determine whether or not she’s gonna split the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:23 PM
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No matter how many important details you give, there are countless subtle details that play a major part in person to person interaction. Nobody online is ever going to give better advice than a person who k knows you personally
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 05:28 AM
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Gonna pile on. Yes, I’ve met some lesbians who hate men. I’ve also met and been longtime friends with lesbians, despite me being a man. It’s not so one dimensional
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 05:25 AM
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The mainstream narrative was worked pretty well for me 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 05:15 AM
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What makes you think it’s tremendously less so?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:07 PM
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Men can certainly do the same thing here, can they not?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:46 AM
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SICK
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:16 AM
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I can see, totally, where you come to that conclusion. I do. But it's still a leap to say that she thinks she "deserves" Chad only until you see who she's actually (I mean actually) saying she wants to be with. Not like "Oh Brad Pitt is so hot and David from math class isn't," but actually who she finds herself attracted to. By this metric alone, I can see she's picky (I frankly think all people should be), but not necessarily "I deserve only Chad"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:20 PM
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So give me an example of a woman you know. Shouldn’t be hard
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:56 PM
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Can you let me know when I've said that? Or are you just passing off your feeling of others onto me?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:40 PM
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In what sense? Can you give an example? One of your friends or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:34 PM
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See again this is what I’m saying. You’re talking about “merely having a shower” as if it’s the end all answer to all problems. But to answer your question, loads of men will improve their chances by taking better care of themselves hygeinicslly. This does not mean that taking a shower will make you a millionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:15 PM
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You want to date 99% of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:11 PM
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Odds are you're not dating 99% of the women you interact with either
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:12 PM
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How is it going out of your way though? Is it any more or less effort than calling out women's?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:04 PM
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You would benefit from a more cohesive society, as all of us would. Is it about the reward or is it about you believing that you get the reward?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:04 PM
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Why don't you feel you should call out bs takes?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:54 PM
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You would benefit from a more cohesive society, as all of us would. Is it about the reward or is it about you believing that you get the reward?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:54 PM
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The argument is that women DO consider Chad as "what they deserve" I think women like this are even less common than the supposed Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:51 PM
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I'll tell you right now I've got the full stache and plenty of women dig it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:49 PM
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I don't get why men will hear something like "practice good hygiene" and think to themselves "but that's not all you have to do!" Of course it's not all you have to do. However, a lot of men still need to the reminder.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:49 PM
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What if the reward is a more cohesive society?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:45 PM
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Why should I call out other men's bad actions? We all know this is not going to make me popular with women. Just because it is a right thing to do? Not enough. Do you base all your decisions on how women will feel about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:44 PM
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Yeah you seem to be describing a doormat. Like he doesn’t have any capacity to be assertive?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:02 PM
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Do you mean nice guy, or do you mean doormat? Because there are certainly nice guys who can be assholes, even if just in jest
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:04 PM
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Can be, or is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 09:27 PM
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Kind of a dick response huh? Do you think she might just be opening up to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 09:23 PM
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I ask if she did it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 08:38 PM
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It depends on the individual case. I think we can agree though that if your first thought meeting a victim is to determine if they're at fault is a slimy thing to do
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 08:35 PM
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And goals?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:27 PM
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99% of women reject you If you are unemployed with no goals As they should. You have no direction or drive in life, so why would someone want to love you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:16 PM
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What are you gonna do about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:15 PM
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So by "low status" you just mean "lower than that guy over there"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:14 PM
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Not who you asked, but I know loads. Many of my friends are this way. They don't need some grand gestures. For some of them, I've heard them gush about a cute handwritten note that their partner left for them without any added gift.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:23 PM
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I miss my teenage relationship where I could write long, sappy love letters without being seen as creepy or desperate, and hold hands in the car or plan a star gazing date that cost me literally zero bucks while still keeping my girl happy and appreciative. I'm in my mid 30s, and am currently seeing a woman who would go nuts for that sort of thing. Just last night we debated driving out to go stargazing and would have if it wasn't so cloudy. I write her little notes and get teeny tiny trinkets f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:22 PM
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He's a 1%er boomer and it shows. He's got his old money friends, his boys clubs, and hates it that my brother and I don't straight razor shave every day. He hates that people wear jeans to work on fridays. He's a jerk when he's drunk, and the next day will take you to Saks to buy you something (but won't actually apologize). We're fine. I don't see him as a "dad" really as much as a provider and peer. We get along enough as adults but there's always a point in the night where I'll find an excuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:16 PM
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Speaking personally, I would be much happier ditching a girlfriend who wants to go sleeping behind my back. It's faaaaar more preferable being along than being with a woman who doesn't respect me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 08:39 PM
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The poor guy is 80% of men. Oh god this again And men have just as many poisoned dishes to deal with as women Just as many? How many men out there are getting killed/raped by their dates/partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:56 PM
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Nobody is complaining to the poor guy. Women are complaining about the buffet (men) because so many dishes are poisoned many of which it’s not apparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 12:44 PM
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But it can also be a great aspect of a quality man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:25 AM
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But the goal is to get food (men) right? What analogy does the man outside serve?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:12 AM
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I’m glad you’re keeping him on track with the metaphor. It’s a very good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:12 AM
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I don’t see that either
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:40 PM
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Dunno about you but I’m not having trouble holding hands and I’m no smoke show lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 04:29 PM
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Understand and accept it's not a gendered issue
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:38 PM
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The last abusive man I saw had no tattoos. Also the last few men I met who were great partners had full sleeves. So I guess there’s no sure correlation. Pretty silly then to keep using it as a moral barometer
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:12 PM
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What have you seen exactly? Because I’ve seen shitty dudes with tattoos, and some of the nicest guys you’ll meet with tattoos.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:46 AM
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Well that's not posting about a great guy she knows. It's posting about a guy she's pissed off at. I'm not sure what you're suggesting lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:11 PM
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Well, yeah nobody's going to post on tea about a great guy she knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:07 PM
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You don't need to. You can just take this example as one of many that you don't need to be some tall handsome model to get a loving relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:09 PM
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Who's "we" here? None of this really matches up with my life experiences, tbh. Maybe it's because I've never been one to simp, but I'm also no macho alpha male rich protector and I don't have a lot of trouble finding women who show me the type of unconditional love that is sought after. The love I imagine, the love I want, it does exist. I've been in it. It's fantastic. I'll be in it again. Plus, I like sex. It's pleasurable and enjoyable to me, and the process to get it is also enjoyable. In sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:07 PM
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In my experience, lending an ear, being a good companion, supporting me when I'm down, spending time with me, making me laugh, making me feel special. The same sort of work I'd expect to put in myself for someone that I'm in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:31 AM
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A basic level of want? Why can't your reach that level, of just wanting to care about and spend time with a person that you're looking to be in a relationship with?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:54 AM
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It's also great also when she doesn't ghost you and you both put in work for one another. If she's not putting in the work, why would I get to the point where she ghosts me? I'd have stopped seeing her long before a month passes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:52 AM
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I have to be everything that a woman wants in that very moment. I have to make her laugh, I have to make her feel comfortable, I have to make her feel heard, I have to make her feel special, I have to make her feel like she's not another number, etc. Yes. I mean, when I like someone, and I want to spend time with them, that's basically how I want to treat her all the time anyway. It doesn't feel like work because it's the way I'd want to treat someone I like.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:55 PM
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Man you must date some rough women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 02:21 AM
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Not really that rich, no. Definitely don't give the appearance of rich. I covered that in the first comment you replied to. It's probably because I'm a lot of fun to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 10:31 PM
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Pretty great, objectively speaking. Most would consider hot. Current one is definitely objectively hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 09:04 PM
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No, I'm saying that one shortcoming can be overcome by having the rest of the package. The rest of? All of? Some of? How much of the package? What's the line of wealth that is required? How much family influence is needed? Give me hard figures or accept that taste will vary. They don't, at least women do not. From my IRL experience, they do. Maybe you live in a town where all the women are flocking to the same exact men? Don't make it any less likely for someon to demand something unreasonable, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:07 PM
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I'm likely inadequate for a number of reasons to the average woman, in terms of wealth, appearance, etc. However, I am dating (and have dated) women who are enamored with me anyway. So, again, who cares about what women on average think if the woman who's with me loves what I'm about?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:04 PM
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By all means, explain what you mean then (spoiler alert: you can't under the guise of "you won't")
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:03 PM
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Who cares about women on average though? You're never ever going to date "women on average," you're going to date one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:44 PM
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Well if women's taste doesn't vary, and they're only after the top 20% of men, then a man of his stature wouldn't be able to get with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:35 PM
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So you're saying that attraction can depend on a wide variety of things? I mean, obviously people are going to have different desires in what they value between categories. Seems unreasonable to believe a man would have to excel in all of these, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:35 PM
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So 5'8 puts a man in the top 20% then
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:17 PM
2

Women want a 5'8 man
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:16 PM
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Do you consider 5'8 in the top 20% of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:16 PM
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Yeah I understand all that. It’s apparent to me that these types of men are immature themselves and can’t hack it with an older woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 01:39 PM
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The thread is talking about dating
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:42 PM
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Well that's the thing, taste changes as you get older. I was very attracted to young women when I was younger. Now that I'm older I'm very attracted to older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:35 PM
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i mean that's just a difference of taste I agree. That's why I offered my individual perspective when the user before me said "They are sexually more attractive though." You're also talking about physical characteristics. If it's that big of a deal, then do these men not believe in love? Because if these younger women they're with get older, they will get the fine lines and crows feet
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:43 PM
1

Oh okay so you're pulling this from your ass. Got it, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 03:44 PM
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Yes, and that's on OP to provide a source for it. You've made the claim that sperm quality has much less control over the health of the kid than egg quality. Do you have a source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 03:04 PM
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Let me see if I got this right. I don't, but this is what you've shared with me here: You don't like average women not going for average men, so you don't care what old unattractive women think. You have that stance, but you only have that stance "in societies where the avg man has a decent chance of having a family not gyno centric soceities like the America." Altogether though, you don't believe old attractive women exist. That's what you have said so far. You probably need to rephrase some th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:29 PM
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Buddy, it's one phrase. Oopsie. This isn't about "the world" lol The fact that you're pulling your hair out and determining this must be what makes you more mature is kind of making you sound immature. Let it go.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:23 PM
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Oh well, that’s the narrative that’s apparent to me. If they’re shooting for inexperience, it’s probably because experienced women know better than to get with him
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:12 PM
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You seem bent up about this
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:10 PM
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Meh. Negligible difference. Yes, they’re younger, and generally fitter and tighter, but not nearly enough to offset the rest. I’d rather be with a woman with a bit more maturity. Besides, at least in my city, there are plenty of hotter women in their 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:09 PM
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Neat! Me too! In general though, it’s the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:06 PM
3

But you don’t believe it exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:05 PM
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what’s any of that have to do with a “wall”?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:54 AM
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As a man in his 30s, I'm not interested in women that young. I find them to be, comparatively, inexperienced and in ways a bit childish. I'm much more into women my own age. My lowest age I'll go is probably around 28 at this point in my life. Any younger and there's a noticeable gap in how we interact, share life experiences, etc. That said, a man going for super young women, isn't wrong, per say, but I would ultimately think of them as probably immature themselves and, more likely, can't hack …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:40 AM
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I also dont like avg women not going for the avg men in thier 20s . Tough nuggets. Some people shoot out of their league. Big whoop So who cares what old post wall women think(and no I also dont believe a wall exists) You really don't have a stance do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:36 AM
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Yeah buddy that's socialism. Congrats, you're in favor of it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:52 PM
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Being in favor of social benefits like education, healthcare, and transportation is socialism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:48 PM
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Bruh I personally hate socialism so I'm not really in support of Social benefits except in education and Healthcare and transport That sounds like you like socialism
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:39 PM
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Are these people you care about? People you want to like you? I don't care if some nobody on the internet is mocking me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:37 PM
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As a man who is happy single, not once has a woman come up to me and lashed out about any issue about standards or whatever. If anyone does have an issue, they're not making themselves known, so why would I worry? Why would I care?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:36 PM
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Sure! Personally, it's my strategy to not pay for a first date with a woman in most cases. I feel we are both coming in as unknowns so it makes sense for us to split. Helps to filter out those who are just in it for the provisions and not for the company.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 10:08 PM
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Do you feel that if a man has paid for dates in the past, and doesn't pay for you, would you feel any certain type of way, or would you understand this as delaying financial obligation until he can truly vet for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:04 PM
1

What constitutes “enough”? Wanting it constantly?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 11:47 PM
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What constitutes “enough”? Who decides that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:18 PM
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Lol no it doesn't. It means I'm not in a constant need for it. I want sex, I love sex, but if I don't have it in a given moment I'm not going to let it alter my mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:59 PM
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To me, from personal experience, that says those men aren’t that interesting themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:34 PM
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he met women like her 10 years ago That's not her is what I mean. I've been rejected by women in my past who are similar to the women I still chase today. Why would I change who I'm attracted to after a few rejections? Most women I date are similar to each other, but the individualities among them and myself, along with a litany of other factors, make the relationship not work out. Yes it'd be great if the world were kitties and rainbows and nobody ever got rejected, but they do. It happens. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:55 PM
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Not very specific. What proportion? How strict? How tall?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:32 PM
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Clearly you're quite unhappy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:07 PM
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Even the women who do manage to find a relationship in their 30s typically end up with the same type of man they were rejecting before. If a 32-year-old woman ends up with a 32-year-old man, they both would likely be happier if they had gotten together 10 years ago instead. The thing is they may not have met 10 years ago. She could find a loving, compatible partner at 32 and it be the first time she's deeply connected with someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:05 PM
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Men need to raise their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:00 PM
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Is there anything specific that you think is particularly unrealistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:00 PM
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It doesn't matter if other men disagree with her opinion of high caliber. She's setting the standard. She has a high caliber education, and she expects a man to have a similar high caliber education. She's a gym-goer and likes art, and wants a man who has similar interests. It's perfectly sensible. Just because some men such as yourself disagree or have different standards, doesn't make what she's doing illogical. She has set a standard for herself, and expects to be with a man who meets similar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:18 PM
1

Damn the bar for chad gets lower and lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:00 PM
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Uh...Right now no. Okay, so "no," more accurately, is the answer. Since it's a no, there's literally no need for you to hide who you are in hopes that maybe one day you'll decide you'll be interested. Because, odds are, she won't even be interested since she's already not interested. Why hide who you are? I lived as my honest self for a long time (15+ years) and never got any interest from women Did you ever try analyzing what it is about you that might be keeping women disinterested?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 06:59 PM
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Aw thanks bud! I was really looking forward to your approval. It's not condescending at all
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 06:55 PM
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Men and women don't have to seek the same things. Hell, many men don't even seek the same things. Two people very seldom will. This woman, from how it's been described, is being perfectly sensible. What makes it not make sense to you? Why do men also have to seek the same thing for her decision to be normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 06:14 PM
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Thhe fact that they have two different desires with the woman makes this intrinsically false based upon her needs
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 04:42 PM
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Isn't there a large subset of men who push that women just need to be young and fit (looks or other superficial traits); none of which matters for being a good partner; wife; mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 04:18 PM
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I am extremely selective, only dating women that are, say, top 1% attractiveness, and I keep complaining about lack of investment from them, it's completely fair for someone to point out that my hyperselectiveness isn't helping me find someone more willing to pour energy and invest emotionally. Yes, if you do that, people are fair to criticize. That would be something that you do. But not other men. It'd be weird if women saw your behavior, and then turned around and told me "you men have such u…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 04:15 PM
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Looks like she's a high caliber woman looking for a high caliber man. Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 04:09 PM
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I mean, in ways, you are lucky. They have problems you don't have to deal with. You also have problems they don't have to deal with. It doesn't have to be a competition. But actually, this thread was about how men deal with all women's problems and more. I mean, that's certainly not true lol. I might want to date one of them Do you want to date one of them? Make a definitive yes or no answer. Because either way, hiding behind some image to not share yourself honestly is not gonna be the way to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 03:13 PM
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I probably get 5 or so matches a week. Sometimes more, sometimes less. Definitely fewer than the average woman, but I also see the type of men who are swiping on the average women and they're bad pickings. I'd much rather have fewer matches to find quality than be overflowed with dredge.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 03:10 PM
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I had a woman I met on an online dating app try to move in with me after 5 dates and when I said no, she tried to manipulate me into a lease agreement with her name on it so that I would have to commit to her and wouldn't have the power to break up with her. How does that work? Where’d she get a lease agreement?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 01:58 PM
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Friends can disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 01:23 PM
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The reason I didn't disagree with them is because arguing against them would require I admit that I have few matches in online dating. And? So what? If that's the reality of the situation then that's worth sharing. We all have to go around pretending to have more options than we know what to do with in the hopes someone actually buys our bullshit someday. Seems an exhausting life. Drop the facade and just live earnestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 01:23 PM
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What was so frustrating was that, even though I deeply disagreed with them, I couldn't say anything back. I had to agree with them and pretend like I believed and sympathized with the plight of women in online dating. The reason is because, arguing against them would have required as part of making my case that I admit that I simply don't have very many options, and that's basically self-conflagration if you're a man. I'd be trading away whatever attractiveness I have in their eyes for the sake …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 01:21 PM
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I and many men prefer woman B. Needless to say, woman B is often younger than A. In this example, having experience makes a woman less attractive. In this example, it was the attitude that made a woman less attractive. I know many women who have traveled the world because every waterfall they see is amazing. These are often women who see the beauty in all things, hence their desire to experience more of it. To put it another way: A man's ideal woman is a 20-year old woman in the body of a 20-yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:47 PM
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Why are you assuming we all excuse abhorrent behavior? We're not the people in that group
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 07:48 PM
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If they're blindly swiping right on everyone, they're not putting effort in
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 07:44 PM
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Everyone try to establish sexual control over each partner. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 09:27 PM
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It's what I've definitely experienced in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:17 PM
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2 more weeks! Then you'll all see!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:15 PM
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I'm assuming it was a typo. I'll chime in and say that most of my dating these past years have been with women who go 50/50, or we will exchange payment on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:14 PM
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Are you suggesting that men will do these things for a woman who wouldn't provide the same in return? Because that sounds like unhealthy behavior for the man
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:13 PM
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No no no no no no please no. I want a woman who has her own life to live. I don't want her thinking about me and doting on me 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:09 PM
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I like traveling too. I put it as part of my profile so I like seeing someone with the same interest
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:33 PM
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Looking for a deep connection with an outgoing emotionally available man who is not afraid to show his vulnerable side. That, to me, is what everyone is looking for when dating from a more mature perspective. People want connections, people want to be able to feel vulnerable. All of this is healthy. That said, on a dating profile, It doesn't show much about her, and it tells me that she is expecting me to be something rather than sharing what she is looking for beyond the basics. I swipe left A …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:15 PM
2

So you're against personal freedoms even if they bring no harm?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:21 PM
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Why would I care about where I fall on some arbitrary hierarchy if there is someone who values me for the treasure I am? Just because I'm not being treasured now doesn't make me trash. I don't see myself that way and I know there are others who don't see me that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:12 PM
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In the vast majority of cases though, you don't know how she acted when she met her last hookup vs when she met you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:09 PM
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There is no shortage of sweet guys who have plenty going for them, but are not attractive to women at all and get passed up by men who are not sweet and have less going for them. But...you just said "bingo" when I...don't get passed up? You're kind of giving mixed messages. My sweetness is directly mentioned as one of my attractive traits. How is it that I'm not being passed up? I can see why women would like you. You have a very mainstream, agreeable disposition. It might not be that you were a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:27 PM
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Then I suspect there are other traits, such as looks, wealth, status, or you have something they find interesting. Am I wrong? I'm a good baker, adventurous, and funny, so no you aren't wrong, so it does confuse me a bit. What did you mean by "I also find it hard to believe "sweet" guys are attractive to women"? Do you mean guys who are sweet but have nothing else going for them? Because if so, then duh of course that's not enough. Being sweet is bare minimum. If they stick around, why are there…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:56 PM
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Every time? Would you be okay if she wanted to talk for hours? Would you be okay if she quit her job to spend more time with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:51 PM
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I'm very often described as sweet, and I don't have much trouble attracting women who want ti stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:40 PM
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Haven't heard that complaint before My thought is though, if she's spending all day callling you, how does her boss eventually not notice? Would she be fired? Can you concentrate on conversations with her while playing games?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:37 PM
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Obsessed people with job that call 50 a day exist What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:34 PM
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Would you accept her being lazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:34 PM
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How? Would she be able to focus on work if she's that obsessed with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:33 PM
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Why would she go to work and leave you alone when she's obsessed with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:28 PM
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How would you sustain yourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:27 PM
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I would find this to be a nightmare. Also, to think that someone who is obsessed with you would let you drop to bare minimum standards is a wild suspicion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:26 PM
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It’s learning to be happy without a consistent supply of sex. Yes it does take time and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:46 AM
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I mean that's the most conventional means of sex, especially considering it is something that is desired by both men and women. Are you pretending not to know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 03:16 PM
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That you somehow think there is a logical clarity to PIV sex being misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 02:51 PM
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I'm definitely sure that's not what happens lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:58 AM
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Lol k ;) you got outclassed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 09:40 PM
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Lol I love how you pretend it's too late to continue on conversation and you just waste the early hours on the same bad arguments with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 09:37 PM
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Aw, you sweet little prince. They already have. That's the thing about sexual fantasies. When acted out, they come from a place of consent. That's why 50 shades was popular, because they were both in on the act, consenting to everything. Same reason why Babygirl was popular. I've got straps under the bed. I've got 3 different types of riding crops. I got cuffs, clamps, blindfolds, you name it. I meet women, we'll come to chatting about things like this, we act it out, using all the props I've go…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:43 PM
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They certainly do where I'm from. Perhaps where you live it's different, but I've lived across several major US cities and have rarely, if ever, seen a woman actually act like they're smitten over a serial killer. inb4 "hurr durr you must not meet many women"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:34 PM
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Ah yes. The classic "they must be lying!!!!!!!" Reality doesn't match your worldview, my guy. Get over it. Take some time to actually interact with normal women in real life and you'll see that most don't give a shit about some serial killer with a good jaw. They're much more invested in, yanno, actual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:23 PM
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Second, the normal women I know don't write letters to serial killers or care a lick about Jeremy Meeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:55 PM
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First of all, 50 shades of grey isn't criminal. It's BDSM. Second, the normal women I know don't write letters to serial killers or care a lick about Jeremy Meeks. I literally never hear about that guy except from RP circles. Guarantee if you ask a random woman on the street who he is you'll get a confused look.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:28 PM
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Hence, the issue at hand. Men need to raise their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:14 PM
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It certainly doesn't look like it from what I've been reading men on here write, including yourself. You just said you have low standards not three comments ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:07 PM
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You just said men have low standards. The other user said men have low standards. Now you're sort of implying men don't have low standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:47 PM
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Low standards are what is hurting men. By having low standards and asking out every woman in town, you're not taking the time to actually process what you want, what you look for, what you need, how you might be compatible. If your only standard is "girl, alive" then you bring nothing to the table. You don't actually care about who you talk to, as long as it's anyone. It makes for an effortless, baseless, and emotionless partnership. By raising your standards, you learn about what it is you actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:43 PM
2

Saying "at least you're not undateable" is a negative thing to hear, no matter how your life is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:33 PM
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I read it, I don't find it relevant. How you feel doesn't change how your words make someone else feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:15 PM
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it strongly implies that you're not unfuckable or undateable. Wow, what a compliment! These women should be honored /s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:02 PM
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Another great argument that men need to raise their standards. It would make dating better for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:01 PM
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Don't go after older women because...most will not be interested? News flash buddy, most women in general aren't going to be interested in a given man. That's just the nature of attraction. To give the advice that approaching women is a waste of time because she might say no is silly shit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 01:59 PM
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If a man doesn't have a gf, wife, a family and kids, he has nothing to live for, no reason to work, or to have hobbies That's a really sad state of living. I've been single for about a year now, and I have so much to live for. I find love in my hobbies, I have a circle of friends whose company I enjoy, and I look forward to the trips I have planned traveling to other countries and spending time outside. To say that there's nothing to live for without a partner is something you might need to work…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 12:12 PM
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I knew I was a virgin at 24. That wasn't a death sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:48 PM
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I don't think anyone is. They're comparing incels, as in fit with the online hateful culture, with someone who steals or doesn't take care of their child.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:48 PM
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I have been on two dates with one. It was not enjoyable. Normally though, I see very few far right women. The ones I do see are...yuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:46 PM
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Right I understand that. But either way, when you thought I was a woman you said that there was a lack of masculinity in the dating stories I told. Could you explain what you meant? Or, since I'm a man, are my dating stories more masculine now?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:44 PM
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Rather, you're not inclined to do certain things based on lived experience. Lived experience with one person will not always translate to how a lived experience will be with another person. If I see a gal at a bar, who, unbeknownst to me, is a woman who never ever talks to men ever ever and will never ever approach, I might take that as a past experience of women never approaching. However, a different gal at a different bar might be someone who, again unbeknownst to me, loves taking initiative …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:35 PM
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it follows we don't send out hints for them to do something we know they probably won't do. Treating an individual woman as how you think the general idea of women will act is almost never ever going to serve you well. If a given woman is someone who you believe will act how you perceive the general population acts, pretty soon you see ever single woman as your perception of the general population I give out hints all the time when they're in public, knowing that in general woman don't approach,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:10 PM
1

Why do we wanna say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:06 PM
1

Someone is saying that racist incels exist? Yes. Because they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:03 PM
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Because it is a trope that exists. It doesn't mean that being an incel makes you racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 01:58 PM
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Didn't say that, but being involuntarily celibate does not make anyone a racist. Nobody said that it does
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 01:49 PM
1

How extreme is this minority? Am I just getting lucky with all the women I see dating guys around like 5'8 or less?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 01:47 PM
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You seemed to imply I have very low masculinity because I've had women pay on my dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 01:36 PM
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My comment was sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 01:36 PM
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1. Yes 2. Maybe (Probably won't go for anyone devoutly XYZ) 3. Cigs No. Weed Yes. 4. No 5. No 6. No (I'd move) 7. No 8. Maybe 9. No 10. Yes 11. No 12. No 13. Yes 14. Yes (I'm 6'6 good luck lol) 15. No 16. Probably 17. Probably not (conditional) 18. No (I'm 35, so that'd be way too young. I would date someone who used to be, and I've dated one while I was in college) 19. Yes 20. No 21. Maybe 22. Yes 23. Maybe 24. Yes 25. Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:28 PM
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I've had my waves of seeking casual and non. Sometimes I have fun while looking for something serious. Right now, I'm firmly looking for a longterm loving life-partner. I'm not interested in a fling with someone, and as a result I find myself flirting less with women under 30 (I'm 35) because I know that long term I'm probably not going to be interested. I'd rather be with someone closer to my own age. Ideally, we would have an active and adventurous life (in all aspects), probably no kids at th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:21 PM
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"OMG you are going to make a perfect boyfriend for someone!!!! You're so nice and kind! Not like my asshole boyfriend." 5 mins later Chad calls and her face lights up. "See ya, I'm gonna go meet Chad." Then I see no issue here. If in reality, he's a perfectly great boyfriend/guy, and she just called him an asshole because he didn't kiss her goodbye that morning, sounds like a perfectly normal and acceptable scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:13 PM
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I've literally never seen the risk and I chat with women at work daily
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:24 PM
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Okay so, this "asshole Chad" is probably not an actual asshole, but just something she said?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:23 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:22 PM
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This is explaining a lot lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:01 PM
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No, I'm not responding for the sake of responding lol I'm explaining why relying on friends and family to help is logical when you're looking to vet someone. I'm helping to show you the other side of the argument
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:48 PM
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You quoted the title as if it were a response to it. Having friends/relatives help can be very beneficial, as they might see things you don't notice
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:32 PM
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men are more likely to brush it off. Those men should have higher standards
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:22 PM
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Your answer to "Why are modern woman so keen on "vetting" a man" is that they don't know how to vet?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:19 PM
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This is not the type of thing I've been seeing in my dating life. Vetting is important. Men and women should be vetting their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:44 PM
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I mean, case in point. You're a man, and already you treat my opinions with contempt and dismissal, assuming I must have low standards. Already, as a man, you're showing that you wouldn't make for a very good friend for me. Maybe for other men, but already I've met other women (and other men) who will engage in more rational discussion instead of getting emotional and sarcastic with something they disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:54 PM
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I get it, it's a lot easier to just make up your own scenario and believe that instead of engaging in discussion about something that is unusual to you. Whatever helps you sleep at night. No skin off my back
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:50 PM
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They haven't been in my experience. That's what I'm trying to tell you, that when you apply it to the individual, and not to the theoretical norm, you're going to have varying results. I have female friends that are better listeners, kinder, more helpful, than some of my male friends. I have male friends that are better listeners, kinder, more helpful, than some of my female friends. There's not one single gender that does it better than the other. Some of my most trusted and fulfilling friendsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:44 PM
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Of course women don't say this to their partner, becuase if they did the relationship would end. It would be dumb to tell a man that he is average in the looks department. Or to essentially tell him there are many other more handsome men than him by rating him a 7/10..No one wants to be told that their partner "settled" with them or play second fiddle to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:41 PM
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Men give all those things better. Some do, and some don't. Friendships isn't gender based, it's personality and compatibility based. It's why, even if you look just among men, you're going to be better friends with some than others, because some man will provide good strong companionship for you, and other men won't. This sort of "men do it better" doesn't work when you actually apply it toward individual relationships. A woman who has similar interests and ideals to me will almost always be a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:35 PM
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Tribal does not have to mean all the same race and sexual orientation. Tribal can be based around attitude and outlook
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:19 PM
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Why wouldn't you vet your partner? I vet women all the time that I'm looking to date. For women, there are so many comments telling them to choose better, so vetting is exactly what they should be doing in order to ensure that they're choosing someone that is most compatible with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:18 PM
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...what? Is this meant for me? Good men do get options. I'm not sure what you're coming at me for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:17 PM
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However, if I had not paid on the first date I would have been out, she is a very feminine woman and wants a masculine man Okay, and you're talking about your gf. There are other women I've met out there who don't adhere to that sort of standard. I had a second date last week and she paid for everything, and texted me afterward to set up plans for a third. I imagine you may be a less feminine woman I'm a man. It's in my flair. I also said I was dating women in the comment your responded to. Anyw…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:16 PM
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So do I. That's why I live where I do. Every place I've lived has easy access to them. Unless you're talking about H or something intense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:10 PM
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I don't see how you need to even wait that long. You can clearly afford many luxuries, why keep yourself in a place where, for some reason, men are expected to pay for everything all the time? From the sounds of it, you can go almost anywhere for a better experience and save a boatload of time, money, and energy. The way you describe your life, vs the way I and my friends live all over the country, it seems a no brainer to move as soon as possible, and you clearly have the resources to do it by …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:48 PM
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Does a man have the option to cheat? >>> Yes. >>> He will cheat. Every single man has the option to cheat every single day. Many men, still, do not. Don't fall for some propaganda that one entire gender is predisposed to bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:44 PM
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In my experience: companionship, humor, loyalty, support, conversation...same sorts of things men offer in a friendship. Is there anything specific that you expect that men freely offer that women do not?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:42 PM
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Sounds like you need to move lol. "Most romantic city in america" what a laugh. That shouldn't change how much you shell out for a date. I can tell you I live in a major US city as well, and the vast majority of women I meet have no issue with a more egalitarian approach to funding dates. This goes with the other two cities I've lived in. Whatever weird interdimensional portal you found yourself in you can probably pretty easily escape it with a 1 hour drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:40 PM
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"If a friend is not being a useful tool for you, LEAVE" That's pretty shitty. It's no different from your proposed scenario of being used as an emotional tampon. This isn't a friend to you, so you should already leave. I don't know why so many men outright reject the idea of, yanno, having a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:36 PM
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I paid for Meals EVERY TIME, I planned and paid for non eating dates EVERY TIME, I paid for the car to drive and gas in said car EVERY TIME, I made sure to give a lot of gifts and never ask for any in return EVERY TIME ...why? I've gone on give or take the same number of dates with women and I pay maybe slightly more than half the time. Are you insisting on paying? Is she asking/expecting/demanding you to pay? Don't get me wrong, the girl who demanded you pay rent money is batshit with those sor…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:32 PM
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The judgement being made is if a person would be okay if their partner watched this kind of porn. It doesn’t matter whether nor men or women watch that kind of porn, they still don’t like it if they catch their partner watching it. It’s not that difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:42 AM
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Okay, but in a given situation, would you rather have a new friend to hang with and enjoy time with or nah? What makes the male friendship a better deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 01:37 AM
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Correct. We had been hanging out, chatting here and there, and she asked if I wouldn't mind if she gave chase and take me out. In America things don't work like where you have to ask permission from the parents to talk. We are both adults, we can choose freely whether we want to talk or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:54 PM
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Hasn't been my experience. I was just asked by a woman if I would let her court me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:50 PM
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I don't think actions like that are all too common. I don't know many men who have that experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:59 PM
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Sounds like they both need to work on communicating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:42 PM
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Great then we're all on the same team with it. Some men peak in their 20s, some in their 40s, same with women. Why try and quantify who does it best as a whole? You won't be able to figure that out, nor does the information really bring anything useful
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:42 PM
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If you genuinely can't tell if your partner is actually enjoying sex with you or just going through the motions, you need to work on communicating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:14 PM
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Then that pretty much applies to everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:16 PM
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Sounds like men need to understand that what is the case with some women isn't the case with all women, and that mistargeted anger is not going to serve them well
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:15 PM
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...again I'm not sure what this has to with what we were talking about. What you had claimed was there was an algorithm that would keep women away from me that would otherwise be likely to swipe right. There is no proof of an algorithm like that that seems to exist, and my lived experience seems to be proving that there isn't one
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:19 PM
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Not sure what this is link supposed to say. Earlier you made the claim that apps are deliberately designed to hide women from me who would swipe back, and then tried to say it was only because of bots I got matches in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:10 PM
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Hey there! Thoughts I'd see you again somewhere. Just wanted to update you on my OLD. Been having a few pretty great dates! Guess they're no longer hiding matches from people huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:32 PM
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It literally doesn't matter because if she doesn't like you nothing will happen. But if she does like me, then I've now created a situation where we can proceed to interact further and potentially date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:43 PM
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Did you grow up in a caste system society?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:48 PM
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Then you should tip on those occasions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:48 PM
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Because that's the word you use to describe people who refuse to listen to cultural differences
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:47 PM
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So you choose your actions based on a grudge against commenters you never have nor ever will meet? You're incredibly petty and immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:45 PM
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Look at you, not answering the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:45 PM
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This but unironically. Several women I've been with have appreciated that I back down from confrontation. Why risk getting into a spat for what is probably a really dumb reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:54 PM
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I've been made quite aware of women who are attracted to me despite not conforming to traditional male stereotypes and, in fact, some have even expressly praised me for not conforming to certain male stereotypes. If a woman is disgusted by me I sure haven't seen it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:37 PM
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Yeah I probably fall a bit on the spectrum, just like you do I imagine. "Why lie" is just a common turn of phrase, and easier to type than "why not just answer honestly?" Sarcasm or not, it's still, in blanket terms, a lie. He's saying that women are hypocrites without actually knowing it. He sees one woman say she likes soft men, sees another woman say that she doesn't, and cries hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:43 PM
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Hell yeah dude I fucken love cookies!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:37 PM
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You mean c-c-c-confidence???? But that's just an empty platitude!!!!!! But yes, that's generally why. I'm unashamedly myself with people, and people, generally, enjoy that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:33 PM
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Another reason to support it then! Because now, women seem to no longer be disgusted about something so trivial.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:28 PM
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But personal luck doesn’t erase cultural patterns. I can say the same to you and others and the bad luck you've had. Cultural patterns can change within a metropolitan area, and I've found it very easy to find a different group of people with better heads on their shoulders if I find myself among people who are gonna make a big stink over me ordering some tiramisu. It’s saying there’s a loud and visible trend especially online where these things are mocked or seen as unattractive You know what's…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:27 PM
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Why lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:03 PM
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Weird how so many women are going against their deep down feelings when they get with me. I don't think I've ever gotten the feeling that a woman is disgusted with me for not conforming to traditional "masculine" stereotypes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:01 PM
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Women will openly list things like “he used an umbrella,” “he ordered a dessert,” “he looked too excited,” or “he was too emotional” as instant turn-offs and we’re meant to just laugh it off as harmless preferences or a "joke" I laugh, but mostly because I think it's stupid and it doesn't affect me. So what if those women are going to say they're turned off by me because I ordered dessert? There are so many other women who don't care and are even delighted to see that I'm interested in getting d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:00 PM
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Sorry you feel that way
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:21 PM
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A 5/6 looking milquetoast woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 03:34 PM
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Generally the dynamic is a man lowering his standards considerably to sleep with a woman he isn't really attracted to. Since he doesn't find her particularly attractive and might resent her on some level for taking advantage of a power dynamic to sleep with a guy much more attractive than herself, he probably isn't going to put much effort into her pleasure. So...a guy lowers his standards to sleep with a woman, but resents her for "taking advantage of a power dynamic"? This is so monumentally s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 09:14 PM
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I came in to comment on the shitty suggestion that people should just give anyone a chance because nobody is interesting or cool or remarkable, because while I can agree that on a whole people are wholly average, people's individual quirks and interests and likes and styles are things that can be wildly interesting, and to say that everyone should settle because everyone is boring is bleak (and untrue). As for OP though, I think in general the issues that many men have is that their standards ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 09:11 PM
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One might be supportive of legalizing marijuana, the right to bear arms, be pro choice, support LGB marriages but wary of accidentally influencing kids to transition when they're not actually trans and not supportive of trans people participating in gendered sports, desire a marriage with traditional gender roles but totally supports people who don't want to adhere to them That sounds like a liberal to me. Sometimes people think God, both of these people suck, and they're doing their best to fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:32 PM
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Oh well, too bad. If my first impression of you is "meh" then I'm moving on. I've met enough people where my first impression was much stronger that I can safely say I'm not wasting my time with someone who doesn't inspire the sort of drive I'm looking for. Yes, that means if you have a few words on the app that says "I like to travel and I love dogs :)" with a few bland pics where you look good but nothing special, see ya. Good luck. Swipe left. I'm probably "meh" to a lot of other people as we…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:26 PM
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It's not conservatives, we know that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:22 PM
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I think in this climate it's not worth the speculation. Besides, a lot of "financially conservative" men I knew in college went on to vote for trump a few years later. So, probably not a good barometer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:20 PM
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See top comment. Men's standards are much too low
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:26 PM
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Genuinely I agreed with most of this. In general, from what I've seen, men's standards are far too low.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:25 PM
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The simplest way to happiness is for both genders to deeply internalize sensible levels of humility: "Im just a regular person, no better than others, he/she is a regular person, no better than others, we might as well give it a try". Woof. That sucks. I'd rather try with a person whose company I really enjoy, not just someone who makes me go "meh"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:23 PM
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Both do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:14 PM
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If I'm getting made fun of at a party for dancing then I'm at the wrong party. There's better parties with better people
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 12:08 AM
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Until 1976, every state had a marital exemption. In 1976, one state (Nebraska) made it illegal, so now every state except one had a marital exemption. The exemption was removed for one state, not all. In 1977, another state (Oregon) made it illegal, so now every state except two had a marital exemption. So on and so on until 1993 when it was illegal for all states, and no states had a marital exemption.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 04:23 PM
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https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/marital-rape-laws.html
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:05 PM
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In my experience it definitely has been
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 10:39 AM
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Literally never have gotten that advice. Women care about how you present yourself, women will like a guy who is able to put himself together, dress well, take care of himself. Any one who says looks don’t matter at all I would say is well against the mainstream
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 09:41 PM
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You’re judging this by breakup stories and not relationship stories. Of course all the breakup stories end in, well, breakups. Don’t let that warp your perception dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 02:29 PM
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Okay so you’re now looking at the gender as a whole, not “as presented.” With men, some of them would, and I wager you’re right! How about women? Some of them would? All of them would?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 02:26 PM
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Let’s talk time. You ever sit through hours of swiping, texting, and small talk only to meet up with someone who looks nothing like their profile pic, orders the most expensive thing on the menu, and never calls you again? Genuinely, never. Not once. Why do some guys do this? Why do you go places for a first date where the option is the fanciest item on the menu? In 100% of dates I go on, we go somewhere cheap and easy. A pub, a walk, a concert, and anything that’s gonna cost more than $100 tota…
/r/TheRedPill05/04/25 02:07 PM
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It allows you to plan ahead and set reasonable expectations. What expectations? That sometimes women are going to reject you? That’s life, baby. Trying to find some number to assign it is fruitless, and useless. That number changes based on the environment that you’re in and the people you’re with. Raise awareness to a problem that an individual can't fix, but as a group we find some kind of answer. But there’s no problem. Women are not going to be interested all the time and there’s not a simpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 11:10 PM
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But to call them useless is just hubris on your part. But they are useless. What is the benefit/reason to knowing them when it comes to real day to day interaction? What does it actually matter, even if it were true? Does it change the makeup of a party I go to? Does it change my conversation with a woman in the moment? Absolutely not. Either she’s into me or she’s not. Statistics won’t dictate shit until she and I are actually talking. Do tell, how? There’s a somewhat common expression in datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 02:31 PM
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Dunno. Probably depends on the woman, and depends on the man. Not really ever going to be a clear/transferable way to measure that considering how dynamic people are. I don’t live my life by those sort of, let’s be honest, useless statistics. It doesn’t matter to me what percentage of women are looking at any given time because those 70% of women who “aren’t” could easily be swayed under the right circumstances. This discussion isn’t about that though, it’s about women’s expectations of men, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 01:30 PM
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Yeah dude that sounds like it sucks. I much prefer the women, on earth, who don’t hold this high expectation of a man needing to sacrifice his life for her or buy her all the nicest things in order to keep her around. It’s much better when you can instead just focus on enjoying each other’s company You’re little alien cope is cute, but ultimately stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:45 PM
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Then let’s see it happen in real life. Reality tv is not a barometer on what actually happens in reality
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:22 AM
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Most women, in my experience, have no issue with splitting and several have even paid for the first date while we make plans to hang out again.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 04:36 PM
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In that very same world there are good people being good. You seem to have put yourself in a community where bad people are being bad and you choose to fit in with them instead of finding good people who are being good. And plenty of people win the lottery on the first try, what's your point. Significantly, significantly less people win the lottery on the first try, so this is an extremely poor comparison. You're attempt to minimize the group size isn't going to work with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:48 PM
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By describing it as bad behavior, yes I will 100% blame you. You know it's bad, and yet you do it for selfish reasons (reward). So, yeah, I blame you and I would consider you a bad person for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:48 PM
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No that would be your fault for being an asshole and dishing out asshole behavior, since it’s your intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:21 PM
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Okay so that makes you just as bad and just as likely to enter an insuccessful marriage. However, there are plenty of women who don’t marry for money, and men who don’t marry for looks. That’s where you start living your best life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:20 PM
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Please try to read and engage with my arguments properly. For the third time, frequency or incidence is not relevant. The thing is though, you already invite conditional statements such as 'If you defy these expectations you are clowned and called "not a real man.'" When have you seen this happen? And if it's not frequent, why change your entire outlook based on the insults of one, or a few, people? So what if those people over there don't think I'm a real man? I can instead choose to spend time…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:47 PM
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Well that's great, because women don't seem to be doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 02:52 PM
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"well known" doesn't mean "known by everyone," unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 02:11 PM
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I will say I've seen more of that than the opposite, but there is a further observance that I've made regarding it, and that's the couples don't last long. Granted, I've seen them go a couple years, but eventually one of them gets sick of it and bails.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:40 PM
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Despite Roe v Wade being repealed?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 08:06 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:04 PM
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Cool that makes sense. Are you against that, knowing how much women had been held back in society over the past century?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:03 PM
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According to OP it is, which is the argument I was refuting. What do you think feminism is about?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:41 PM
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Why should a Man be a feminist today? What benefits does he get from helping women? Right away you’re off to a bad start. Helping people is just something that’s good to do. If you’re going to base whether or not you help someone on “what’s in it for me” then you’ve really painted yourself as a pretty selfish person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 02:51 PM
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Every man who shows love to other men in my experience Is either related familialy (made the word up) Or they are homosexual or asexual or whatever lmnop Oh you poor dude. That's a bummer that you don't show love to your male friends. That's the best part about friendship, is sharing your love with one another. You seem to protest too much about your sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:34 PM
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nd most men won’t truly be unconditionally loved anyway Nobody will, and nobody should be, unconditionally loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:32 PM
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Yes. Is that unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:31 PM
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Men are supposed to protect and provide for women. In modern sense this means give them attention, energy, and wealth. Women repay this by giving the man sex. Let's, for a second, ignore that this is a highly outdated dynamic. This is something to describe the give and take of people in relationships. Are these incel virgins in relationships? No. If not, how are they protecting women? What are they providing for women? What do they truly feel is the give that allows them to take? But this has go…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:31 PM
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I prefer my women to be over 30
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:30 PM
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That describes people who care
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 08:44 PM
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I'm more referring to men who say they don't care. Some certainly do as you describe
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:30 PM
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No, I think men who say that are being honest. They don't care about her job/education, but they want her to at least behave as though she is someone with a good job/class
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:06 PM
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Then...use one dude. My past partners totally understood that I wanted to use condoms. It's safer that way. To call it morally wrong is asinine
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:02 PM
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They don't...really. They don't care about your job/education in the sense that they are never going to be curious about it. But they care enough to want you to act like you're in the upper middle class
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:00 PM
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Where does the difference in effort come from? And, even if what you say is true, it doesn’t really answer the question of why you don’t think loving relationships benefit men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:58 PM
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Why don’t you think loving relationships benefit men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 11:45 AM
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Buddy everyone knows that relationships won’t always last forever. Calling it a universal danger though is incredibly silly. Either be content single or don’t, but it seems like you’re not finding that contentedness yet
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:19 AM
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Something about these guys are getting them an audition with women. All women? Women you want to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 03:09 AM
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Dude, you shouldn't be friends with any of these people. It sounds like an incredibly toxic environment. In all my years I've (thankfully) never had my friends come close to this sort of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:22 PM
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I'm giving you a different reason why divorce rates might be lower. It might not be because it's a lower "cash prize," it might be because the women are happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 04:11 PM
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The question is why is the divorce rate lower for egalitarian marriages. You said it's because women don't get as much cash. I'm suggesting it could als be because women are just happier in those marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 04:08 PM
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Exactly. That's why divorce rates are lowest for egalitarian marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 03:58 PM
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Men's standards, in general, are much too low and you have here a perfect example of that. By having such a minimum standard, you lack the actual desire to be with someone, you're just looking for a prop. In turn, you don't establish yourself as anything remarkable, because those low standards bleed into your own life. The "not much of a talker" is a big red flag tough
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 03:47 PM
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Or because they're happier
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 03:38 PM
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Pretty petty
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 04:42 PM
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Are you being sarcastic here?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 02:28 PM
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What a terrible topic for discussion that leads primarily to terrible people making terrible sweeping generalizations. Get over it. Men aren't better than women, women aren't better than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 02:25 PM
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What is it that you’re informing someone on? That a relationship might include cheating? Are you just shouting it into the void?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 02:52 AM
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Yes. Huh? She gets turned on? Yes. Women get turned on, and will often have sex when they do. You’ve said her letting a man in is a turnoff, and inviting a man in is a bigger turn off. I’m asking if those are two scenarios that turn her off, what is the scenario that turns her on? It’s relevant because I am interested in the counter of the scenario. It was double checked before it was posted. Got it now. Formatting was a bit unexpected.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:02 AM
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And yet, you have countless denials here. Perhaps you're misinterpreting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 08:40 PM
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As a man who's...actually had sex, I can confidently say that women definitely do feel pleasure from sex. I've been with several women where the pleasure came even when there was absolutely zero gift buying at the end
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 08:28 PM
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So letting them inside is the turnoff, and inviting them inside is a bigger turnoff, at what point does she get turned on? Let - they asked to come in, invite - you first had to seek them out/initiated them coming in without them even asking. Can you double check the wording here? I'm not sure what you mean by this
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 07:43 PM
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Very much has made the claim that it will change what women find attractive When? inb4 "google it yourself"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:48 PM
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Its sexist in the sense that its quite literally selecting exclusively for traits which reaffirm sexual dimorphism. Traditionally, colloquially, that's not how we categorize sexism, so these sort of stretched definitions aren't really going to do your argument any favors, especially considering that at this benchmark men and women are equally sexist so there's no point to describing it as such. You can easily say that most men go for women who have traditionally feminine traits, calling them sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:33 PM
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And feminism was inherently meant to dismantle sexism in all forms and facets. But because it can’t dismantle sexism at the root because women willingly of their own will want to be sexist sexually and in dating relationships. Our species will always be sexist. Perhaps the goal was to dismantle sexism that is actually harmful, not sexism based on what you think. (Hint: it was)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:11 PM
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MAJORITY of women conform to natural sexist sexuality willingly Liking taller men or stronger men isn't sexist. Rarely are women trying to hit all of these marks exclusively with a partner And that was the main goal of feminism To pick tall partners? Lol no it wasn't All your other points aren’t disagreeing with me. Most of them are disagreeing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:59 PM
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Feminist fought for the choice of who to be submissive to, fought for the right to be alone and in solitude, and fought for the right to be rebellious and break all social norms and tradition if they wanted to These are all good things. They don’t actually stray that far from natural sexist sexuality Depends on the woman. None of these wants are universal. So to restate my point feminism isn’t changing anything about sexuality...or sexual dimorphism That isn't nor has it ever been the goal of fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:40 PM
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If women have this innate desire to be submissive, then there never would have been any feminist movements to work against this patriarchal society. There would never be such a strong movement of female empowerment and strength. And there certainly wouldn't be any women "forcing" men into specific roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:15 PM
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what if they are content with being single not getting married nor dating not having kids. I thought this was about contentedness in being single and not dating. Why would you complain about a girlfriend when you're supposedly content with being single?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:11 PM
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I've been approached at parties and bars occasionally and have had success on dating apps Chad behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:02 PM
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So then would you agree that women should avoid you, thus removing you from the dating pool?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:59 PM
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They demand absolute loyalty while offering less in return, delaying intimacy, making it transactional, setting unrealistic expectations, and treating their committed partners with far less respect than they gave the top tier men they actually desired. I've never had a relationship like this in all my years, and the majority of relationships I see are plenty healthy and fair. So either I'm Chad, or the theory is bunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:58 PM
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And the photos, I assume, were taken from dating profiles? Or were they taken so that the photos were at least somewhat uniform to minimize quality variance?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:35 PM
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Is it men, or is it men’s profiles? Is it the same 80% of men? Were they given scores to give to each person or did they just rate on a yes/no scale?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:10 PM
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It's probably not. Stop asking chatGPT
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:02 PM
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The 80/20 theory is so tired
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:58 PM
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Letting as in allowing them to get inside. Actively, yes. And that's the turn off. Actively inviting them inside makes it an even bigger turn off. Letting them inside is the turnoff, but actively letting them inside is the bigger turn off? What's the distinction between these two?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:56 PM
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What some men want. Plenty of other men don't share that want
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:53 PM
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I don't perceive that personally. I don't perceive a male virgin as a loser, nor do I perceive a female stud as a slut. Perhaps this is unique to you (and others who think like you)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:50 PM
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My type is tall, fit women, usually with dark features/brunette, with brains bigger than mine. I like long hair usually, but will also melt for a gal with a bob/pixie. I like a gal with passions, who can be nerdy about certain things. I have dated a couple of women who fit my type exactly, and it's great. Unfortunate when it doesn't work out but it's good to know I have realistic expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:52 PM
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In what ways do you put yourself out there?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:43 PM
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Women disagree with the 80% of men are unattractive dating app statistic Because it's not a real statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:40 PM
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It seems that way based on how I've seen women behave though. Yes, there is some overlap with conventionally attractive people, but there is a vide variance in what individual women are attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:40 PM
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Most women literally tell you that backing out from a fight (preserving your own life) is a turn off. I don't think I've ever had a woman tell me that. In fact, many women have told me that engaging in a fight is a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:07 PM
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What is unrealistic about that? Wanting a family is pretty low stakes as it's just about the desire, and having a job is extremely reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:06 PM
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Lol how is that asking for much?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 02:35 PM
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It only applies to some. Not just not everyone. It applies to almost no one. Not from what I've seen. I've even had discussions with the men I see on here who say these sorts of things. Almost always I get comments about how these men take whatever they can get. Threads about online dating will show many men who agree that with OLD they will swipe right on every single profile they see. It is basic but doesn't mean that the person you are with wants to have sex. Or atleast not the same amount as…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 02:27 PM
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Sure, I never said it applies to everyone. From what I see though, it applies to a large portion of men, especially those with dating issues. And even here you say that they need to have sex. Which is another standard. Funny how this is turning out isn't it? Not really? Sex is a basic of any relationship. Saying she needs to have sex is a standard is not far off from saying she needs to have a pulse is a standard. Also keep in mind. Most people here are quite far removed from regular people in e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:51 PM
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I also see dudes here who say they will take whatever they can get, or that they don't care about a woman's personality as long as she has sex with him, or will say that they have no choice but to go for a woman who mistreats him because there isn't anything else out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:41 PM
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TLDR: Men should lower their standards Could not disagree more. Men's standards, how I've seen them, are far too low. You see it in how many men will indiscriminately swipe right in OLD, or who will say outright that they will take any woman that they can get. Men need to raise their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:39 PM
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It seems to match up with what I see
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:35 PM
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Probably about 30%
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 09:02 PM
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Yes, I'm single. My last relationship ended about a year ago, but have been dating on and off since then. This year I'm going for something more serious and hopefully long term
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 09:00 PM
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Option 2. I've been with attractive women with whom I don't vibe and it doesn't bring much joy/satisfaction. Much rather be with my best friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 08:59 PM
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I think some do 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 01:19 PM
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This isn’t my observation at all. I see woken either avoid, roll their eyes, or laugh at guys like this when they try and act tough. Me, on the other hand, often described by my peers as extremely nice, don’t have any issue keeping women interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 01:15 PM
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I think of myself as enjoyable company, who is good at sex, and has a thirst for adventure. I bring a partnership that will allow for continued independence while serving as a rock she can lean on whenever she needs. I'm fun, I'm nice, I'm funny, I'm stable, I'm in good health, I take care of myself and my space. That's more or less the minimum these days
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 11:12 PM
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No chance you're asking this question in a vacuum, and I really hope you don't go the route of pretending that you're just looking for the stat and don't have any ulterior means of discussion. That'd be annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:40 PM
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Mmm, I don't think so. My list of standards is not nearly that extensive, nor do I think I know anyone (man or woman) who has that long of a list. I didn't at first see what the fuss was about until I saw all the other screenshots. It's not about specificity, it's about volume.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 04:47 PM
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The thing is that you say so much and so many normal things that it doesn't surprise me that men you talk to fit most of the points. I fit most of them as well, but based on the things I don't fit and how extensive the list is gut instinct tells me we'd be a bad match. "Fitting most of the points," to me, says very little. I'd bet there's a guy who has said that to you, as I am, and the two of us are wildly different men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 04:36 PM
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What is your list?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 04:24 PM
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A man could possibly find a single woman with no kids on a dating site, go out on a date, and find out it was just a "foodie call". Was it help because she was hungry? Lastly, a man finds a woman on the dating site, they start talking which leads to nowhere, no dates, nothing happens, even ghosting is possible. Was it help because she needed attention? Are any of these love? I'd say no. Are you just here to ask questions or do you have an overall point? How are any of these relating "love" with …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 04:09 PM
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I think your question is disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 03:54 PM
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Dang, more evidence that men need to raise their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 04:28 AM
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The thing about sales tactics like these is that it seems to work on more people than you think because it is spray and pray by design. It's casting a wide net with aggressive marketing. In reality, it fails with most people, it just seems to work a majority of the time because of the high volume output.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 04:27 AM
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Because I don’t know everyone well enough to know how I feel about them. For strangers, I still show them respect and kindness without expecting anything in return, because I think that’s just nice to do. It’s not about reciprocation or deservedness, it’s based on how I feel towards the person, not to do with getting anything in return. And yes most relationships are transactional Not what I asked. Don’t answer questions I’m not asking. I asked if every relationship is transactional, because by …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 02:46 AM
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You give those to your partner with the expectation that they will Conti ue to give the same to you throughout your life Incorrect. I give these to my partner just as I give these to my friends: because I love them and I want to show it. If there are times I do not get it in return, I do not love them any less. If it is consistent, then it's not the transaction that's the issue, but how they feel about me. If they're not willing to show affection, then it's an indication of larger issues at hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:43 PM
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Again, we’re talking about the content of the transactions. Love care and attention are nothing things I would qualify as transactional elements of a relationship. When I buy something with cash, I don’t want to give them money, but I have to in order to get my goods. When I’m in a relationship, I want to give my love care and affection to my partner because of the way I feel about them. If they feel the same way, they want to show me those same sorts of treatments. The difference in exchange is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 07:38 PM
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Monogamy isn't a lie. Assumed societal monogamy is
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 04:15 PM
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Damn. Here I am having a perfectly nice time dating. I'm enjoying myself, not spending much more than I would anyway going out, having nice conversation, and sex. Maybe your city just isn't good for it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 04:13 PM
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I think it's pretty disingenuous to call a relationship transactional if the only value exchanged is love, care, and attention. It's close to when men say that every woman is a prostitute, even if instead of giving "money" for sex you're giving "time and attention." It's stupid to think that, because you're completely discounting the want/willingness. I'm still committed to a relationship even on days where I don't receive any sort of transaction. I don't keep tabs on the transactions that take …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 02:58 PM
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Absolutely exists, yes. Applies to most/all men, no way
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 02:43 PM
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I’m saying I’ve never seen it or heard it from any woman. Only RPers who complain that women say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 04:38 AM
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Uh that’s not how I interact with people in the real world lol. No thanks. Nine of those platitudes are saying that all a man needs to do is be a good person and he’s attractive, and also I’m not sure how showing them a printout of these reddit quotes would even elicit this sort of response. Your shit doesn’t make me upset, it’s just weird that you’re sort of arguing against your own imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 03:18 AM
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None of these quotes say "all a man needs to do is be a good person is be attractive." Saying "physical attraction isn't everything" or "not as important" are very different
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:20 AM
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No I'm saying the line "all you need to attract woman is to be a good person" is something I've never heard from a woman, only from RP people complaining about the line
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:19 AM
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"Might as well believe that I want, instead of considering the fact that I'm probably wrong"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:08 PM
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Which is a rebuttal to the "well all you need to attract women is to be a good person" What a crock line. I've never heard that from a non RP person
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:08 PM
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Buddy, just because it doesn't fit within your narrow scope of the world doesn't mean it's irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:46 PM
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Because women actually take the time to look for good profiles. Men swipe right on anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:15 PM
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I almost always see guys here agreeing with the premise that they'll fuck anyone who they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:12 PM
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It's just stats. Also, nobody IRL really cares or talks about this kind of thing. I bet loads of women have no idea this exists. The fact that you think it's "killing your dreams" is...pretty silly of you. It's also inaccurate because many of the males using this calculator fail to acknowledge that their interviewee has already met males IRL who fit the criteria. That doesn't make the calculator inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 04:11 PM
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Men just like all women, that's it Damn men need to raise their standards then. No wonder they have trouble dating. They just shoot for anything that moves. Why any man would choose a toxic woman over being single is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:28 PM
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Men need to raise their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:27 PM
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What about you is toxic nowadays? Can you be more specific? Are you violent? Rude? Insulting?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:31 AM
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Buddy that’s a horrible example lol. He murdered someone who was, in part, responsible for the healthcare issues of the entire nation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:29 AM
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Is it possible that the women are simply answering on their own experiences and feelings, and not trying to provide some grand general hypothesis? How come if it goes against your worldview it’s automatically dishonest?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 05:07 PM
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Why is it that a woman agreeing with you is being praised for being honest? Do you think the other women are being dishonest?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 01:30 PM
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Well it’s not really a camp but a reality Lol You're going into dangerous territory of thinking, boiling down to "the relationship has to bring some value to the woman or else she's going to move on." Is that about the summation of your stance of what hypergamy is?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:41 PM
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Oh you're of the hypergamy camp. You think that a higher value woman comes at the sacrifice of loyalty
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:46 PM
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...buddy that's still qualitative. technically a higher* value woman will just max-out these traits [specified earlier as looks, loyalty, and innocence] at the cost of their loyalty and innocence. If I'm confused, happy to have you se tthe record straight
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:27 PM
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Well, is high value a purely quantitative or qualitative thing? Qualitative. How would it even be quantitative? technically a higher* value woman will just max-out these traits and arguably being in some bonuses, but bringing socio-economic strength (one example the OP mentioned) arguably is a paradox for a heterosexual relationship in some contexts, because it may well be at the cost of her loyalty and innocence that plays off a man’s relative strengths So...a woman maxing out her trait of loya…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:23 PM
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Wouldn't be so simple for me. I value a lot more about how the two of us interact. As a sexually experienced man, my gut has me choosing the more sexually experienced woman in return, but that also has to come with questions of our interpersonal relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:01 PM
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You're describing a mid-value woman. Those are just the basics. This is like describing a high value man as "nice, attentive, loyal"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:00 PM
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...how does that relate lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:10 PM
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The women I've been with don't find it disgusting lol. I've had women come over to be dominated and to dominate in return
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:25 PM
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just arguing against your claim that "Saying that being single is more expensive is actually CRAZY to me."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:16 PM
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Guys shouldn't lower their standards. That's the point! Guys need to raise their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:10 PM
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We're talking about cost. Getting into relationship dynamics is a totally different bird
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:09 PM
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Most of them are pretty generic. If so, then I swipe left on most of them. The vast majority of my matches have detailed profiles, because that's who I almost exclusively swipe right on. A few hundred characters is plenty to showcase yourself. I'm not looking for a novel, just enough to show a bit of her character. Some apps even allow you to caption your photos for more info. What you are objecting to I see as a non-problem because women are expert at avoiding it by not liking-matching-swiping …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:08 PM
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Terrible comparison lol. I'm talking about decision-making, not overcoming physical disabilities
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 02:57 PM
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I never said it would. But it will force you to be more mindful about who you like, what you like, and how to present yourself to get that. Setting such low standards does you no favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 02:56 PM
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Because any man has the ability to not do something.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 09:25 PM
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When you have higher standards for yourself you run the risk of developing a lot of negative self talk It's not necessarily high standards for yourself, but for a relationship. You can talk yourself up and remind yourself that you deserve someone who makes you feel seen heard and wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:21 PM
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You can be single with a roommate
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:20 PM
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I'm still not following.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:19 PM
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Then so be it! An enjoyed life single is better than a miserable life with a poorly matched partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:17 PM
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Any man can and they should. The reason some women aren't putting in enough effort is because of men who will swipe on anything, so there's no need to do much aside from have a hot photo of themselves. Keep your standards high.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:16 PM
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You're not really answering my question. You said that the algorithm keeps ideal matches away, and I don't know where you got that info or how you think it works. The article doesn't mention anything like that. Where did you get this information? Or are you gonna pretend it's just "common sense"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:14 PM
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Dor a coucher?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:13 PM
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They can't both be correct. Either men want something special or they just want someone that will fuck and don't care about who she is as a person. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:12 PM
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I never said anything about them being better. Of course there are plenty of low effort profiles. My comment was merely talking about the feature that allows you to target something specific on a profile (should it stand out to you) and write a message about it, instead of just swiping
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:27 PM
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You're suggesting though that the algorithm is able to determine based on your profile what your ideal match would be and then, subsequently, hiding them away? I just want to be clear, that's how you think it works?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:26 PM
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Sorry, what part of this says that the algorithm will keep out decent matches?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:18 PM
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Lol so I guess it was a lie when earlier you said: Men don’t go around thinking about banging women all the time, we want something special like you guys it’s just much more of a grind for us than it is for you women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:12 PM
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If you want something special then why participate in a numbers game just swiping on anyone you see? That's hardly special.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:09 PM
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Yep more men should.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:08 PM
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Then you swipe left on them. That's what I do. No big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:07 PM
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And? Who cares? I'm sure some women have lost the opportunity to date me because I have high standards. Why should I care?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:07 PM
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Definitely has not been my experience. Quality women that I've been with have cared about our compatibility, and I've been rejected for having low compatibility
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:06 PM
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Swiping indiscriminately does not help at all. It doesn't help men "in general," it doesn't help the man doing the swiping, it doesn't help the women. The swipes are not real if the men are just willing to date anyone who says yes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:06 PM
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Undecided for me is a firm swipe left. If she's not putting in the effort to show enough information on her profile then she's not putting in the effort. I don't see how giving vague matches the benefit of the doubt helps
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:05 PM
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being the one that actively initiates, does the pursuing, makes the first move, does the courting etc puts a lot of pressure on you to lower your standards. Be that as it may, it doesn't mean you have to. Keeping your standards higher in fact relieves some of that pressure, because now you have fewer women you're deciding to put the effort into initiating, pursuing, making the first move, etc If you're dealing with a lot of rejection, it's possible that you're casting such a wide net that it's i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:03 PM
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Lol where is this coming from? I've seen great matches with OLD and I've never paid for it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:02 PM
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It doesn't have to be how it is though. You can have more control over your emotions/restlessness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:38 PM
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Lol as if the algorithm chooses whether you swipe right or left
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:37 PM
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On apps like Hinge, you have the option of selecting which part of her profile you like and pair it with a message as to what caught your eye. By putting in more effort instead of just indiscriminately swiping, you stand out more to the woman who sees your profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:36 PM
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I will read every profile I see. I see enough super hot profiles with minimal information that I will happily swipe left on them in favor of a woman who actually shows her personality
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:34 PM
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For real. He's admitting here that 500 matches for a woman aren't ever going to be genuine, because men are just swiping indiscriminately. Save this post for future reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:33 PM
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to us the apps a numbers game if we swiped the way women swipe we would get f**k all engagement from women on the apps, so we excessively swipe to increase our chances Hence why dating apps are bad. Men who think like this make it more difficult/unenjoyable for themselves, for other men, and for other women. This is a great argument as to why men need to raise their standards. By making it a numbers game, you put no effort into yourself and all the effort into casting a wide a net as possible. y…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:32 PM
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Me neither. Good for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:00 PM
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In the truest sense of the definition, yes it happens more often than not at all. However, it's not enough to say that it can be assumed as the reason for all unknown cases. People fall victim to this trap a lot. You read all these guys saying that it happens all the time (when breakups happen for a million other reasons in a million other cases), and they heard it from someone else, and he heard it from his big brother, and it eventually gets stuck in your brain. Yes, it happens that some women…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:02 PM
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You do it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:33 PM
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This subreddit is centered on American gender dynamics When did that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:31 PM
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It's terrible advice for both. For women, there's no need to lower their standards other than to appease men who feel like they aren't meeting them. For women, a relationship is a bonus if they're happy single, so there's no reason they should feel the need to lower them. For men, many suffer from having standards that are too low to begin with. Ask a group of men, and many will say that they'll take a relationship with any woman possible because in the end, who cares as long as she'll have sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:30 PM
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A LOT of men on here, and in real life, have ridiculously low standards. Lower than "the bar in hell"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:27 PM
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I just don't know why you choose to frame it that way. WHy assume it's because the top guys didn't want her? Why assume she's leftovers and not, instead, someone who has found you as a more perfect match?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:26 PM
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Yeah a lot of people do which I find funny. I'm in my mid 30s. In my dating experience, I actively choose the women who I feel are putting in comparable effort to what I'm putting in. If a woman has a minimal profile, no substance to her messages, no proactive question asking, then the interaction doesn't reach the point where we meet in person. I also don't mind it when some women don't put in more effort, but it usually won't result in a date. That's good that some of your fun ones were like p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:22 PM
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Their profile to some extent, their messages especially. I see women with low effort profiles as well, but more often I see women who are at least putting a bit more effort in. I've swiped men's profiles on my friend's account before and it's a little less great. The women I've matched with have been, for the most part, more engaging. Women who don't put effort in don't get a message back from me. Yes, I use dating apps on and off. Currently on Hinge, have used Tinder and Bumble.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:46 AM
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About the man, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:54 AM
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I don't see how that cause and effect happens. Doesn't this imply that they would like men who don't put in effort in other circumstances? Could you explain a bit more?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:42 PM
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Correct. Women don’t like men who don’t put in effort. It’s not about “shopping around”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:54 PM
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I’m not sure you understand my point Women on dating apps will, in my experience, put in more effort than men will, hence the imbalance
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:33 PM
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The problem most women seem to have with OLD is that men are being less proactive than women on them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:55 PM
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So men can be treated as a monolith?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:13 PM
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1)If those are the only standards most(their own words) women have, do women get a crush on every available guy in their social circle? That wholly depends on if the men in their social circle have shown that they will treat a partner like a human being. That’s great that you’ve encountered women who do the bare minimum. That has nothing to do with women meeting men who do the bare minimum. Yet "most women" having such low standards is used as an insult towards men? Having basic standards is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:11 PM
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No kidding. I know a guy who complains that dating is too expensive, but he will almost always take a gal to a high end restaurant/cocktail bar paying the whole tab. I don’t get it. Some of my best first dates are at grungy bars where beer is 4 bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:20 PM
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Hasn't been my experience. Most dates/relationships I've had have been pretty even splits. We'll either go dutch or will take turns paying. I don't engage with sugar dating at all though so I can't answer for that side of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 11:08 PM
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I’m in Chicago. I’ve heard stories like yours in NUC/LA to be fair. The Midwest is a very different breed. I have been on a few casual dates in LA/NYC when I’ve been clearly a tourist, and drinks were fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 02:44 PM
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I’m also in my 30s, and have found that women are much more likely to split/pay than they were in my 20s. This is also women who are very much dating intentionally. I honestly get a lot more requests/enthusiasm from women about just doing drinks for a date. I can count on one hand the number of dates in my 30s I’ve been on where the woman expected me to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 02:14 PM
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Honestly if a man falls for this that says a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 01:44 PM
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Interesting. The vast majority of mine have been split. Occasionally ill pay, and occasionally she pays. Splitting has been by far the most common experience for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 01:40 PM
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Def hasn’t been for me. First dates are usually a dive bar or, if it’s nice, a bop around a nice neighborhood. Movie dates as a first date were okay as a teen, but not at all in my adult life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 01:39 PM
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Sorry, just to clarify, are you annoyed that you're a doormat and women don't want a doormat?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 06:59 PM
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Damn this dude sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 06:05 PM
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It's one of those that has a connotation, where guys who make this "observation" are typically associating this with all women, or lean on the diatribe that "women only go for bad boys." It's a little tiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 05:51 PM
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Sydney Opera-House
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 05:42 PM
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The thing is though that these "some women" aren't going to be desirable partners anyway. What's the use in complaining about it? I'm a safe guy too. Why would I want to be with a woman who rather I be dangerous? You're not going to be everyone's taste. It's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 05:37 PM
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Based on the description of the woman here, she sounds like a spoiled brat. I would never be in a relationship with someone like that nor would I have any natural inclination to provide for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:08 PM
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Sure doesn’t sound like it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 06:43 PM
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Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:41 PM
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Buddy it's practically a copy/paste of yours
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:18 PM
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Not sure what you're trying to say here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:16 PM
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Depends on the man
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:09 PM
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Those are means to increase the odds. Not a fail proof plan reality has to abide by. Obviously. There is no fool proof plan that exists for dating. It’s delusional to think that there is one, and if that’s the reason a person becomes bitter then they have more to work on in terms of holding realistic expectations. If there’s really a problem, I don’t see much proof of it. Most of what I see in my daily life though are people who kind of suck at dating. The solution, at that point, would be more …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:11 PM
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Gross. No wonder women wouldn’t like giving oral to you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:06 PM
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Classic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:06 PM
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Again, demonstrating you aren’t understanding what people are saying. This is why I don’t take you seriously anymore. But it’s nice to know that you get upset by it. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 12:51 AM
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Yeah so you’re clearly not understanding. If all the app is doing is getting people to talk about consent it’s an essentially useless app. If someone uses an app because they wouldn’t start the conversation otherwise it’s a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 12:00 AM
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If someone needs an app to talk about consent, then that's a red flag. It's a very useless app. People also keep saying this, but you won't listen to them. Why do you expect anyone to follow your logic if you refuse to follow anyone else's?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 08:44 PM
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You just had to bring up the coconut...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 08:39 PM
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You're welcome
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 08:38 PM
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If you, as a man, were awarded the option of having sex with with many different women, would you take advantage of that situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 08:31 PM
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I don't think I've ever met someone with this dynamic. Perhaps you're getting hung up on only a small handful of women. If a person is that hypocritical, I don't see why you pay them any more mind
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 08:29 PM
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No, I don't mean that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 08:26 PM
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Why are his standards so low that he just messages every profile he comes across?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 08:05 PM
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There's also all the other women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 08:04 PM
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(X) doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 07:53 PM
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The interface I use doesn't have a downvote button, so that weren't me. I value yours too
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:19 PM
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Don't know why they would think something so stupid. Doesn't really have anything to do with my comment either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:16 PM
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They're not all that bad as a means of determining how people interact with someone they're close with. However, they are bad when men use it to pressure spouses etc into constantly having sex even if they don’t want to. Great points all around
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:12 PM
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They don't. You're thinking of dating apps, where men with no standards will swipe on literally every female profile they see with reckless abandon. That's not women finding a partner by sitting at home, that's women getting pestered. If you want to actually find a partner, you actually have to put yourself out there and meet someone who is compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:08 PM
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They're not all that bad as a means of determining how people interact with someone they're close with. They're not hard rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:42 PM
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Suit yourself, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:34 PM
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It must suck to genuinely believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:28 PM
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If a person needs an app to start a conversation about consent instead of just being able to on their own that is a huge red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:25 PM
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If the app gets more people talking about consent before sexual activity do you believe that it's a terrible idea? Not what I said. Read more carefully I thought you said being prepared for consent is "terrible". Did you not say that? Keep it in the context of the discussion, then try interpreting the statement again
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:13 PM
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A thousand bucks says that loveless marriage didn't suddenly happen
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:06 PM
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The app sparks that conversation Currently, the app's primary (and only good) purpose is to spark conversation. If so, there's no need for a whole app. Thus, terrible idea. Or do the people still have to do that? The people still have to do that, hence why the app is a terrible idea. So we shouldn't teach how consent works to anyone? Bad faith question. The app already has the user acknowledge that. The app is terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:05 PM
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Be Yourself: yeah except if you’re being yourself and you get dismissed anyway then what??? Then you learn that you were not compatible with the other person. Being yourself doesn't mean that you will be attractive to every person you meet, it just means that you'll weed out people who don't like you for who you really are. Put Yourself Out There Yes. That's exactly how that's supposed to work. You won't find a partner sitting at home. Find a hobby In my hometown there are a ton of clubs/activit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:03 PM
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See disclaimer 1 It's significantly better for someone to be able to be up front about consent and what they want and what they're looking for. Pulling out an app to do it for them shows that they lack maturity to do it on their own. Red flag. See disclaimer 2 Being "prepared" for consent is terrible, especially when it is entered in writing, because consent changes over time. This point is a direct refutation of disclaimer 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:48 PM
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Apps are not
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:44 PM
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Just use your words like adults. You don't need an app to talk about what you do and do not consent to. Furthermore, consent can easily change over time. If someone says they consent to sex on the app, and then later in the night things change, do you have to open the app again? It's a terrible system.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:42 PM
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This tired trope
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 10:45 PM
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Paid article. Can you summarize the findings a bit more here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:07 PM
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If something is the majority, it can be considered a monolith. This seems to imply that woman, as a majority, aren't romantic. In any case, where'd you get your data that men are more romantic than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:58 PM
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Is there something you're trying to ask, friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:49 PM
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According to the meaning of words. Where'd you get your data that a majority of women aren't romantic? Inb4 "it's so obvious."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:48 PM
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Being in the south doesn't inherently give you knowledge on immigration, sorry to say
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:48 PM
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Okay :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:36 PM
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A) Pretty big "if" there buddy B) Not how monolith works buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:34 PM
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Tell me you have no idea what's going on with immigration without telling me you have no idea what's going on with immigration. See? I can do it too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:33 PM
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Uh huh. Because you're soooo affected by whatever you're afraid of in Mexico
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:27 PM
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Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:26 PM
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Man talking to you is exactly like eating yogurt
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:07 PM
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Oh well so sad
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:06 PM
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Based isn't the word I'd use. I'd go with idiotic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:02 PM
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I was actually just in Mexico last week. Was fantastic. But in terms of what's actually affecting everyday Americans, the danger is most certainly coming from within.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:02 PM
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A cold if it's >85 degrees and sunny. Otherwise a bear. If I had a cold I'd rather be at home. Plus if I see a bear in the woods that's pretty cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:43 PM
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And you're comparing what you had before this restoration to literal slavery?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:41 PM
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If you want to take one single user's link as the definition, then sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:40 PM
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...you're comparing the plight of slavery to not getting enough action at home?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:39 PM
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The danger is coming from inside the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:38 PM
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