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No guy should be that desperate man. Wow.
/r/seduction06/11/22 02:17 AM
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Your highest potential is in your mid 30's, before you really start aging and while you have had time to build up your looks, fashion, social skills and career. This doesn't mean success gets handed to you, but as long as you're improving in that time. I'm mid 30's, manage to get a few new girls per year from around ,26-31 in age.
/r/seduction25/10/22 03:34 PM
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It's not much more than statistics, though. Guys are going to have some success rate as a percentage, and if that's very low, 'trying' more with the same success rate just results in the same thing over a higher sample size. Consistently bad or unsuccessful interactions over a large sample size without adjusting the process means the process is wrong. What's the old saying; trying the same thing and expecting different results is the definition of insanity. If you go skydiving 1000 times and nev…
/r/seduction24/10/22 09:11 PM
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That's fucked but I don't see it reducing the chances for guys who aren't doing it.
/r/seduction24/10/22 09:07 PM
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More like back in the 70's, 80's, 90's, even 2000-2010. I'm not talking the 1930's or medieval England. My dad was a bit of a simp, and most friends' dad's I know looked pretty goofy in their younger days. I don't know if they'd have much luck in this day and age. All the things you mentioned as 'standards' don't help, either. I can cook like a fucking chef, I have 6 figures in the bank, and manage to wash my clothes every now and then. And I don't expect any of this to help, it is just the abso…
/r/seduction24/10/22 09:04 PM
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It’s not through lack of trying, I just have terrible luck with dating. There is no such thing as luck. You may be trying but you're trying wrong. Try to figure out what exactly you are doing wrong, possibly through a coach. Do you know how to flirt?
/r/seduction24/10/22 11:50 AM
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Yes, smartphone use. Back in the day, women basically had to pick a decent average guy living in the same town as them. There are exceptions, but that's generally how it worked. Now, we have tinder. A 6/10 plain jane (normally any guy could 'court' a girl like this and get her because she isn't particularly good looking or interesting) now matches with a 9/10 jock who just wants to fuck anything. But now that girl won't settle for anything less than another 9/10 jock because she thinks she's at …
/r/seduction24/10/22 11:46 AM
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Draft and draught are pronounced the same..
/r/seduction23/10/22 06:50 AM
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I usually call it a 'romantic date' on dating apps, as it kind of calls out that it is a date, while at the same time poking a bit of fun at the whole thing. Almost none of them ever mention the whole 'romantic' part or get puzzled by it. The ones that ask 'what does this romantic date involve?' are open to you getting a bit of soft-core sexting in if you play it right from there.
/r/seduction23/10/22 06:33 AM
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I honestly can't imagine wanting to wait that long even if the girl seemed otherwise great, as I want a partner who enjoys sex and doesn't see it as some gateway thing I have to work for. Because if I'm working away 'proving' myself and finally getting that as a reward, and she doesn't even want it except to keep me on the hook? Frame lost and over before you had a chance. Nah, I'll stick with the girls where we actually want to rip each other's clothes off. But yeah, if you want to get a 'sexua…
/r/seduction23/10/22 04:06 AM
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If add stay off most social media. Especially Instagram and TikTok. This shit is toxic for the soul.
/r/seduction23/10/22 03:56 AM
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I dunno man, I am one and it doesn't seem to magically result in girls kicking my door in. If anything exotic dudes like you have more natural appeal at least here in Aus..
/r/seduction23/10/22 03:26 AM
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Start off very gently. Literally just smile and say hi. From there, if you're the Adonis you claim to be, it will play out similarly to if they had seen you first.
/r/seduction22/10/22 02:08 AM
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To be fair the climate stuff is all a silly cult. I'll look into Ben Shapiro, seems like he knows more than all these 'experts'. Thanks for letting me know about him.
/r/seduction22/10/22 02:06 AM
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Imagine getting 100 texts per day from people who want to fuck you. You're going to pick out about 5 of them who are the hottest 5. You'll then be sorting through those 5 based on what they say and how convenient they are. If they all fizzle out or say something stupid, then maybe numbers 6-10 will get a response from you. ... Unfortunately now you see where you're at with the ones that do this to you.
/r/seduction22/10/22 02:02 AM
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What the hell man just go over there and fuck her (repeatedly), it doesn't get much more obvious than this.
/r/seduction22/10/22 02:00 AM
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To them, a male 'friend' is actually someone who orbits them, not a friend friend. So it's really saying 'please keep orbiting me because the attention is good, but I have no interest in you'. Pretty much every time I've got it, they will never respond to me again, so I learned very quickly what it really means. Yes, men and women can be friends, but a very tiny fraction of the time, and almost never when one has had a crack at the other.
/r/seduction21/10/22 12:36 PM
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"No".
/r/seduction21/10/22 12:34 PM
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Geez wait till you get to the real world after college man, it's eazy mode now. Answer is you just make time for what's important. Maybe you make Thursday and Friday after 7pm for dates. Maybe you see the boys only 2 times instead of 4 per week. If something is important then prioritize doing it first and then letting the rest fall into place.
/r/seduction21/10/22 03:29 AM
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Don't try to ask or plan specific sexual acts. Just say hang out / watch something / have a drink. Then things might just progress naturally. If you are asking to continue then it's just weird and needy like you have to negotiate or lock it in which you can't do with attraction. Same as asking a girl out. 'lets go for a drink' - yes. 'lets go to a bar where I'll try to strategically touch you, make you laugh, kiss you, and convince you to come back to my place to fuck' - no, even though she know…
/r/seduction21/10/22 03:27 AM
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Honestly if a guy has any other options.. the weight gain doesn't help. I was seeing a girl who was only just on the chubby side. We took a break. Seeing her again and she's now well into chubby. She's a really nice person but when we're getting naked I can't help thinking 'im giving up all my other options for this' and really actively looking around since we aren't committed. If a guy is very nerdy and probably gets 1 new girl a year of his own accord? Then he may not be too put off by it. But…
/r/seduction21/10/22 03:22 AM
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Outside of work I only really go to the gym or the shop so it's not like I'm talking to many new people outside of work. I basically feel entirely invisible most of the time in public.
/r/seduction21/10/22 02:03 AM
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However I’d advise against going for workplace relationships (if you are at all considering it). I'm definitely not really aiming for that, just mentioning that there are all ages, genders and social classes here so it's not just 'old people don't like me' or 'young people don't like me'. I think dating could be acceptable as the departments are quite separated and I could easily avoid someone if there was drama, nonetheless I'm definitely not trying to 'game' at work, if anything it's just a gi…
/r/seduction21/10/22 02:02 AM
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Just be yourself ? Plenty of guys here just been themselves for 20-30 years and never touched a woman.
/r/seduction19/10/22 01:05 PM
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Basically no, other than maybe doing other attractive things and having her see them via IG story or similar. But if you're actively trying to prove something in this manner then it will probably come across as tryhard and obvious. I can't hope to understand how their brain is working but if you haven't made a move by date 2 (if they even give you that second chance!) then in their head they have moved on and moved on very far away.
/r/seduction17/10/22 08:30 PM
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You must be doing something drastically wrong if tinder isn't working there, man. I'm an invisible loser back home and I got 1000+ matches in a week in Bangkok and basically started running out of time to bang any more than the first few I met which was a shame. They'd come on lunch time dates and be pushing me into taking them back to a hotel within the hour. One brought an overnight bag as she already decided she was staying with me for several days. Anyway, any of the large shopping malls are…
/r/seduction17/10/22 08:14 PM
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This one is very far beyond saving. Forget her and at least it seems like you are aware of a few wrong things you did. So how to not do this? You need to tease, make assumptions, basically show that you aren't just complimenting her constantly or saying logical statements. I usually recommend this video as it breaks it down nicely for us who are a bit socially ret@rded: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw66ddhAUhg&ab_channel=JoeDucard
/r/seduction15/10/22 12:31 AM
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Not easier as such. Just you have had more time by then to build up things that have value, such as money and assets, a career, social skills and fashion. You also aren't really limited by your age (yet) as to which women you can get.
/r/seduction14/10/22 01:08 PM
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Stop all this autistic shit and just start talking to people.
/r/seduction03/10/22 12:36 AM
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It used to just be that feminism was a shit test (so you either get reactively angry at it or you forget about it and find that 99% of women are still real women), but eventually I realised it really does apply to almost everything.
/r/seduction02/10/22 05:10 AM
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If you have to travel every time you want to get laid, it becomes a very expensive process. It's also completely unsatisfying and the moment you stop throwing money around, it stops. Why not learn how to build real connections with people instead? Wouldn't you rather have a girl who really wants to be there with you, not your wallet or (presumably american) passport? You basically just said 'Engineering sucks. I tried to build a bridge on day 1 and it fell apart, therefore it's impossible'. No, …
/r/seduction01/10/22 07:13 AM
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Dude. The entirety of modern media and society is a shit test. You ignore it and work around it. If you get too angry about all the degenerate tra@nnies or climate vaccine warriors or whatever every social media cuck is these days, whatever they're trying to turn us all into then you lose. Simply chuckle at how self destructive they are, and continue towards your purpose.
/r/seduction01/10/22 03:01 AM
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I read many comments of girls in these subs writing that they would definitely prefer a boy asking them for consent, instead of just directly make physical contact and dance, but for my experience it never works. Never believe what women say about pickup, believe how they act around you and other guys, because what they actually do is the only possible truth in the world. Women and many feminised guys will also tell you cold approach is creepy and can't possibly work, but a lot of people have ma…
/r/seduction30/09/22 12:42 PM
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They're sleeping with him, are they gross?
/r/seduction29/09/22 04:06 PM
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Dude that's just a shit test. Agree and amplify. "Damn right, are you saying you can't keep up with me?"
/r/seduction28/09/22 03:15 AM
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Women try to date upwards, men date what they can get, as a general rule. I think a lot of relationships only happen when either party misconstrues their own or the other person's value.
/r/seduction28/09/22 03:10 AM
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Then they need to find a mentor. Yes this usually costs quite a bit of money. But so does any other professional advice. One piece of the right advice can shave months or years off the progress curve, and that's if they were ever going to stumble their way there alone. It's like going to court really. Anyone can represent themselves, maybe even successfully. But chances are no matter how much you read and research, you'll be clueless compared to the lawyer who charges $1000 for 30 minutes of sta…
/r/seduction28/09/22 03:07 AM
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Hey man. Don't end up like me. At least 10 years since I started in this sub and still can't approach. Where will you be in 10 years?
/r/seduction26/09/22 12:40 PM
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Meet her if she's willing, otherwise don't keep initiating any conversation. If she hits you up without you initiating then she might even be into you.
/r/seduction24/09/22 01:37 PM
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You look fine bro. If you're worried about internet rating scores as a measure of your self worth then you're fucked because of this toxic mindset. Women don't rate men the same way we do. They see most guys as average/ugly, and a few as 'hot'. So their rating system is pretty much going to be really low numbers or 10/10, nothing in between. Whereas guys can see a wider spectrum and we could look at a range of pictures and find a girl we'd rate each number. Also, women aim upwards too. So a 7/10…
/r/seduction24/09/22 01:19 PM
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Yes. Which is why you aren't meant to ask questions. It's not a job interview or an interrogation of a war spy. Make observational statements.
/r/seduction24/09/22 11:26 AM
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Hmm.. I'm not sure I believe that. At least where I live anyway. The number of guys willing to pay that much, compared to the number of girls willing to accept that, can't really add up. If it did, that would mean there's a lot of rich guys with thousands in cash to blow on basic dates! If I was paying, I would at least be paying a 9/10 to make it worth my while..
/r/seduction22/09/22 02:49 AM
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Absolutely. I think the same. The sad thing is they actually are doing better than us though. I just don't get how. Cos if I was top 5% or whatever they are getting, I would be even less willing to resort to them. Past their prime, slightly overweight, and very little personality other than 'wine and cheese' and 'laughing', even now I would only go there out of desperation.
/r/seduction21/09/22 01:54 AM
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Online dating has dramatically changed even in the last 2 years. I am using the same photos as I was 2 years ago (and for the record I don't think I'm catfishing like older/fatter girls do with their pre-covid Greek island photos, I look the same or even slightly more muscular in real life now) and I get about 1/4 of the matches and 1/5 of the responses. They have simply learned that they can hold out for the top 5% most witty, best looking, rich guys before they bother meeting up. Unfortunately…
/r/seduction20/09/22 11:43 AM
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Lol 3 months? You typically have about 2 weeks where she even remembers who you are. Ask them out in 3 days preferably.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:09 AM
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You're making it more complicated than you need to. Go on a date. Fuck them. Contact them again occasionally and see if they want to see you again. If they ask for a relationship, tell them you're not looking for that right now. Repeat with as many girls as your sanity can handle.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:02 AM
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Then take a trip there to see her if just to dispell the illusion if that's what it takes. And if it works out then even better.
/r/seduction17/09/22 04:48 AM
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I am over 6 foot and height isn't actually the instant ticket to getting laid that every guy under 6 foot thinks it is. Maybe I have some advantage. But I still stare at plenty of hot girls who find me completely invisible.
/r/seduction16/09/22 12:40 PM
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Sounds like just a fantasy because you don't have many other options. You need to be talking to 3 other girls before you can truly say 1 is actually special.
/r/seduction16/09/22 12:37 PM
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Yes. You pretty much can't build attraction at all by texting, only maintain it (at best, which most guys can't). Years ago before tiktok etc fucked up everyone's attention span you had up to 2 weeks to arrange something, now it's about 3 days. You can learn better text game to draw it out a bit but basically try to meet them ASAP. Otherwise you are allowing the 100 other hot guys to match with them and be the ones asking them out in 1-3 days.
/r/seduction16/09/22 12:34 PM
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Incredible downvotes there, not what people want to hear evidently. But hey, whatever doesn't work, they can keep doing, right?
/r/seduction19/07/22 03:43 PM
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I've noticed how this sub has gone from somewhat real and useful since I started here 10 years ago, to just hating on anything that they already know works but can't be bothered doing. I mean it's good for me, I guess I have little competition as I grow older, but it's so sad that they think there's some instant answer they can be told which requires zero action or change. How do you become a doctor? You put in 8+ years of study and sacrifice everything else you could have done with your life. "…
/r/seduction19/07/22 12:05 PM
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It's easy to not be 'most dudes' though, since most of them have never set foot in a gym and/or never stopped eating mcdonalds off ubereats in the last 2 years - so you put in a little effort (or a lot) and you legitimately look 10 years younger than them. A mate of mine, as cool as he is, is already balding in mid 30's with a pot belly and basically had to give up and marry the first weird girl who would talk to him, whereas here I am with my last tinder lay in her early 20's.
/r/seduction19/07/22 09:13 AM
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Get some decent fashion (go to a middle of the range up to higher end mens store depending what you can afford, and get the gayest guy there to tell you what to buy). Figure out fashion in general aside from that - what archetype you want to be, what colours suit your skin, what accessories to wear. I have seen a 100% difference in how the same people treat me when going from wearing a tshirt and jeans > being dressed up for work in fashionable/casual office clothes that suit me. I was doing a s…
/r/seduction19/07/22 09:11 AM
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get them to open up with me, talk about their worries and problems There's your problem, this is what their girl friends are for. You need to learn flirting and banter. Tease them and bust their balls. Literally just look up 'how to flirt 101' on youtube. If you dont know what 'push pull' is that's a very simple concept to learn about and practise.
/r/seduction18/07/22 01:21 PM
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It can be worth trying again especially if they're hitting you up. If you can get a lay out of a 5min text while you're on the toilet, it's more efficient than a new cold approach, surely?
/r/seduction07/07/22 02:37 PM
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I know exactly what you're doing wrong as I used to be the same but I also can't really explain it very well, you just have to snap out of 'coasting along' through the date waiting for something to happen. You have to guide the date and turn it into a DATE, not a 'dAtE' where you have a friendly chat and waste 1-2 hours of your time and the girl tells you she wasn't feeling the spark. You need to learn flirting, so try these 2 videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCAu8a9Xckk&ab_channel=ToddVD…
/r/seduction07/07/22 01:18 PM
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For every successful kiss I've had, I've never asked. Sometimes the girl's reaction has felt like she wasn't quite ready like maybe her thought process was 'ummm. whats happening... i guess I'll go along with it... ok thats not so bad, I'm kinda into it' and 'forcing' it a bit is actually the moment that starts to turn her on. Other times I've asked or told one 'i want to kiss you' and she's made up an excuse like 'people will see' or 'I'm shy' and then its basically over after that because she …
/r/seduction07/07/22 11:51 AM
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That's basically WHY they go there.. just most probably don't get caught out.
/r/seduction07/07/22 08:41 AM
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Lockdowns and other assorted covid tyranny probably drove everyone decent away. That's what happened here in Melbourne anyway. Massive outflux of any people capable of getting decent employment in a non cucked/fucked city, so only the purple hair social justice warrior trannies remain. The state has 50,000 less people than it did before covid when it used to add hundreds of thousands per year.
/r/seduction07/07/22 08:40 AM
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'it just happened', 'we just clicked'. And I think also that he 'knew what he wanted' as in he pushed things forward assertively (reality is he would fuck a lot of different girls but they feel like he 'chose' them).
/r/seduction07/07/22 08:17 AM
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I tried this once. I went to the same club I normally had zero luck at every week. This time, I found a 'frat boy' type cap on the floor of the club and decided to adopt a douchebag frat boy persona for the night. I put on that cap and turned into Fred Durst or some shit like that. I almost got kicked out due to some of the shit I was saying.. but the girls were loving it. I got near blackout drunk, but I remember 2 girls hanging off me at one point there. But yet... it wasn't me, I was just bei…
/r/seduction06/07/22 12:22 PM
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No problem. I know intuitively it's hard to go against their words especially in the feminism culture.. but it's literally just a test to see if you 'get' it. If a girl on the street says not interested then she means that, but usually if she is still hanging out with you or you're going to her or your house together, well, that says it all.
/r/seduction03/07/22 04:44 PM
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Interesting.. I'm starting to think there's a few I might have had a chance with.
/r/seduction03/07/22 11:54 AM
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Lol. I'm 35 and took home a 21yo a few days ago. Cope and seethe? I certainly didn't force her. I had a drink, talked to her for an hour, and then she was the one who asked me if we could have another drink at my place. She knew my age and since I work out and keep healthy thought I looked about 26.
/r/seduction03/07/22 10:55 AM
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Lol, all political bullshit is nothing more than a shit test. It cannot change human nature.
/r/seduction03/07/22 10:50 AM
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Agree without being butthurt or shocked about it 'ok, no worries, no pressure'. Then back off, go back a step, then start slowly escalating again. If they resist a bit but are obviously still into it (not getting up / scared / leaving), they're just telling you you're going a little too fast. Of course stop/no always means stop, but I've gone from situations like a girl laughing in my face and moving my hand away when I tried to touch her boob, to face down ass up for me 20mins later.. It's usua…
/r/seduction03/07/22 10:49 AM
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Are you busting your ass in the gym efficiently? Be sure you're making progress. If not, I recommend Kris Gethin's Hardcore Trainer on kaged.com. Follow the diet and the workouts and you are basically guaranteed a 6pack by the end. Your height and skin colour really don't matter, they only matter because you're obsessed with them.
/r/seduction03/07/22 10:42 AM
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No, I was one until about that age and have been with probably 40 women since then (in my 30's now).
/r/seduction03/07/22 10:40 AM
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Well at what point or how did you get from zero to taking their clothes off?
/r/seduction03/07/22 10:33 AM
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It's only in some countries.
/r/seduction30/06/22 03:57 PM
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Height doesn't help. I'm 6 foot 2 and no girl cares. Stop using it as an excuse.
/r/seduction30/06/22 03:56 PM
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Thank you sir!
/r/seduction20/06/22 11:34 AM
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Remember what it's called by any chance?
/r/seduction20/06/22 10:56 AM
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I don't go out to clubs or pubs much so feel free to disregard my advice. But my experience with mainly online dating apps, once they start adding/chatting on insta that's when it's already over. They can look at all your photos, see everything, there is no mystery. If you have a really high value profile like a male model or club promoter then it works as DHV but otherwise?? Chats quickly dwindle off and they're too busy to meet. Whereas the ones I add on WhatsApp asap and just quickly banter b…
/r/seduction19/06/22 03:25 PM
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Early on though, it's going to be pretty obvious to the girl that something is up.
/r/seduction09/05/22 03:08 PM
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I mean, the only way to have experience is to somehow do it. I kinda got my start with a girl who made all the moves and gave me so many hints.."its cold in here, maybe we should cuddle" etc. But ultimately you have to make some moves yourself for 95% of girls. You could just go the honesty approach. Tell a girl 'hey you're kinda cool but I have something to tell you.. I actually don't have a lot of experience, so go easy on me'. She might not believe you, or (small chance) she might walk away, …
/r/seduction09/05/22 01:08 PM
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Not really, because we know from various surveys and studies over the years that 80% of women aim for the top 20% of guys. I would argue that tinder has skewed this to more like 95% / 5%. It's not easy at all, I admit that. OKCupid actually published a study based on their own user results, and then had to delete it because it basically showed how most guys should absolutely never bother just based on how it plays out for the non-models. So you can be just 'average' or slightly above average eve…
/r/seduction09/05/22 12:58 PM
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So please change my mind how cold approaching will marginally increase your chances than online dating. There are many women who don't use online dating or will swipe for 2 minutes per week and by then you're already buried in the stack of 14000 other guys who liked her. Most attractive women, based on just the numbers, cannot and will not ever see you online even if they would have been into you.
/r/seduction09/05/22 08:32 AM
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I would err on the side of matching ASAP. At least you know they're online, because it seems if you don't get them when they are, they're going to have a sea of 100 other likes and conversations by the next time they they are.
/r/seduction29/04/22 04:18 PM
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Read up on 'push pull'. It's like giving a compliment and taking it away, a bit like old school 'negging'. It creates a spike in their emotions.
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:48 PM
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Sounds like you gave her all the validation she wanted so she didn't really need sex for any more of it. I'm no expert but a lot more push/pull and disqualification needed.
/r/seduction28/04/22 04:24 PM
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Not really a question for this sub, but all that matters is that you are into, and comfortable with whatever you're into. You're the only one that experiences it, so I don't mind what you do with someone else. So why care what anyone else thinks. I mean the natural urge for me is to put my penis inside a young, vibrant, well-proportioned natural adult woman. No strange gender nonsense matters because either way I'll never go near any of it. But maybe others do. Why does it matter? Also lots of '…
/r/seduction28/04/22 01:38 PM
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Umm. So to get good with women, just have heaps of women already which you'd need to be good with to get. Is it really that simple?
/r/seduction28/04/22 05:43 AM
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If you match / talk with them, tinder is putting you in the gutter in terms of ELO and it's only going to get much harder. You must always swipe left on any ugly / fake / tran. Act like a hot guy does - picky, swiping only his type.
/r/seduction28/04/22 02:05 AM
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Flirting and otherwise interacting with girls is supposed to be fun. If you're seeing it as a mechanical process with one end goal (sticking it in) then your mindset is completely off. You have to be detached from the outcome, because that non neediness is actually what they'll be attracted to. 'he doesn't need me' > 'he has plenty of options' > 'he must be attractive'
/r/seduction27/04/22 03:10 PM
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Yeah it's fucked. Then when you pay to see them they'll be tr@nnies from the phillipines or other useless irrelevant bots.
/r/seduction27/04/22 03:01 PM
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It's true though. You can go out every night for a year but you're still playing a big game of catchup.
/r/seduction27/04/22 01:15 PM
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Lol.. too toxic man. You don't have to drink when you go out And everyone has nights out from time to time, not just 'sluts'. And by no means is it easier. You are competing against far more well dressed and experienced guys and have far more chance of being shamed by entire groups of women at a time than just 1 girl turning away from you in a mall and no one even seeing that happen.
/r/seduction27/04/22 01:12 PM
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Don't ask someone like an aunt for advice. But she's kind of right. Yes, you should get in shape. But mainly for yourself. You can put in a lot of time and get a 6 pack and still suck with women, so don't put in years of torture just because you see girls at the end of it. Not saying that's what will happen, but I didn't get miracles when I got a 6pack. No one cared. Don't stop talking to girls - you may as well play on hard mode while you're on that setting, it's character building. A year of p…
/r/seduction27/04/22 01:10 PM
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You make time during the time off you have. You still have 16 hours per 24 hour period that you aren't working. So basically you fit it in somewhere, like you would a shopping trip, or a gym workout, or a study session.
/r/seduction27/04/22 01:06 PM
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I’ve been using it for a while on tinder. Well, is it working or not? That's the information that matters. Because ultimately it doesn't matter what exact words you say, it's whether you actually meet up with them, and then make the interaction go the way you want it to. I think using the word 'fun' is what desperate/sleazy guys use so I never use it. But if the girl sees you that way then does it matter? I use 'see what happens' or 'see if there's a spark' - because ultimately, that's what has …
/r/seduction27/04/22 01:01 PM
1

I don't think a mainstream fairytale is ever going to be a good thing to role model yourself off. That's why half of us are in our current predicament.
/r/seduction27/04/22 12:58 PM
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Most of our dads are simps who played beta game so yeah I guess he's just telling you what worked for him. If you haven't already had a lot of sex with a girl, you should not be spending all that money. A drinks date to start off with, where you tell her to buy the 2nd round, should be enough to find out if you like each other and then go further from there.
/r/seduction25/04/22 03:44 AM
1

Maybe but it's hard to know. It can be purely the six pack or it can be the confidence and swagger, if there is a noticable increase in results. All I know is I got the best results 10 years ago when I was a weedy 65kg loser. Now I'm 95kg muscular and entirely invisible to women. Maybe you have to also be low body fat shredded, which I'm not, because I've done it once before and it was pure suffering.
/r/seduction25/04/22 02:11 AM
2

Club/pub rather than daytime approaches.
/r/seduction25/04/22 12:17 AM
1

That seems more like a test of compliance and if it fails then that's it?
/r/seduction25/04/22 12:16 AM
2

All of my medium or long term relationships started with sex on the first date, or at the very latest on the second. Of course it's age dependent, but if the chemistry and connection is there, why put artificial constraints and rules on things?
/r/seduction25/04/22 12:13 AM
1

Already rage deleted bumble and I never got her number.
/r/seduction25/04/22 12:10 AM
1

Chances are he's actually flirting. Her loving it, is confirmation of that.
/r/seduction24/04/22 12:00 PM
0

I mean it doesn't get any clearer bro. You better not have fucked this one up....
/r/seduction24/04/22 11:46 AM
5

Yeah, post examples. Also most people would say the intention of texting is to meet, not increase attraction, thus shouldn't be super complicated or drawn out.
/r/seduction24/04/22 11:43 AM
3

Didn't read all the post but no, when I tested it I got about 1/10 response rate and usually it leaves you no closer to a real opener. e.g if they just say 'haha hey' then what? You have re-open with something else that is better. Also EVERY guy is over using it and some girls even mention that in their profile. If you have an edgy fuckboi look going on then maybe it works for you.
/r/seduction24/04/22 11:42 AM
6

I'm in Australia but I believe its probably 5x harder here.
/r/seduction24/04/22 11:35 AM
1

If there's something you can refer back to, like a topic from the original date, that will help pull her back to the moment you guys were having fun. Alternatively, you can just send a random funny gif.
/r/seduction24/04/22 07:16 AM
1

That's a little more than a hint, my dear.
/r/seduction24/04/22 07:14 AM
1

There's a fine line between bold, and needy. Sometimes I've gone too hard and I've known/felt that it's like my 'last chance' so it's not from a place of an attractive guy taking what he wants, it's from a place of desperation. You need to calibrate and back off. One way it becomes needy is if you escalate in a straight line because there's no challenge, mystery or excitement, you're basically following a script in your head.
/r/seduction24/04/22 07:13 AM
1

Why are you in a sub that's basically about game if you believe that? And yeah I've seen some loser guys with hot girls. Not always, but there are enough to see that it's possible and not just an anomaly. Maybe they have money, but I'm not going to make excuses - they most likely have personality. You cannot get around this for long, unless you are supremely good looking or rich. Imagine a weedy high school nerd guy in the club with a perfectly curvy goth girl making out passionately with him. M…
/r/seduction24/04/22 07:10 AM
43

even “made plans” for next weeks Every time, man. Then not even any response, even 1 word, if I don't fuck on the same night.
/r/seduction24/04/22 07:06 AM
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Yeah that's me. Best date ever where I know I've met my long term girlfriend. She's bringing up what we're gonna do next time. It's a great night, laughs, lots of physical contact. I don't escalate too hard though cos I know she has to get up early for work so we can't really spend the night at each other's place. (this is where I went wrong, and I'm not even sure how to get around the logistics). Oh well, I'll message the next day and go with the plans we were talking about. No response. Ha, I …
/r/seduction24/04/22 07:05 AM
3

You have to make the most of the time you do have. So the 10 minute walk to the gym or work or home - talk to someone on the way. You work 9 hours - with other people, presumably? Talk to them. You could hit a bar for 1 hour after work. It does legitimately sound tough, but you will have to put in the work/time somewhere.
/r/seduction23/04/22 01:19 PM
1

I don't know then! If you feel like sending a pic, I can give you my honest first impressions. Maybe you're beautiful enough to be intimidating but then that also wouldn't stop apparently every single guy.
/r/seduction23/04/22 07:14 AM
1

Are you really logical and boring or something? Some women I can't have a flirty conversation with them because they are so logical and ask questions like a job interview. I am matched with a hot one now who is like this and I'm not sure I want to meet her as she probably wants to talk about stocks instead of sex when we're out late drinking.
/r/seduction23/04/22 04:30 AM
1

I replied to one of your other comments, but additional to that I think therapy wouldn't be a bad idea. Physically there is nothing wrong, it just sounds like you're projecting so many insecurities and pre conceptions onto women before you've even opened your mouth. It's beyond the scope of this thread, but I think you can take from it that it's not your looks.
/r/seduction23/04/22 03:49 AM
1

It's not, if you aren't creepy. If you think you creep people out, then start from absolute basics. Ask 10 ugly girls for directions to somewhere. Ask 10 hot girls for directions to somewhere. Ask 10 girls for directions and then followup. "Do you think that's the best burger/coffee place or is there anywhere better?" When you can have an actual conversation that goes beyond this, then start to incorporate flirting concepts. But bottom line is it's a numbers game where you are creating the numbe…
/r/seduction23/04/22 03:45 AM
11

Happened to me too. I basically don't age.. people think I'm about 25 when I'm actually 34. I got far more girls, easily, when I was a 21yo anxiety loser working a minimum wage grocery job, than I now do as a 34yo with a professional job, semi-ripped, fashionable clothes and money. When I worked in that supermarket I literally had some kind of model chick track me down on facebook and ask me over to her house late at night. I thought I was in a dream when I actually fucked her but it was real. I…
/r/seduction22/04/22 02:10 PM
1

Well look, you have to hit rock bottom before you can want to change. So here you are! You have absolutely nothing to lose. Think of it as freedom and rewriting your own story.
/r/seduction22/04/22 02:03 PM
3

Well you probably had to get her number while you were there.
/r/seduction21/04/22 05:37 PM
7

Try not to have an outcome when talking to women. Give 20 compliments, that's the goal, not 'approaches'. They can sense when you want something from them. Practice not wanting anything other than to compliment something about them and walk away smiling. And have passions in your life. If I have a girl on an app and she's a bit flaky, I'll just say fuck it, stop chasing her, and go to the gym instead. If you don't have something to put your heart and soul into other than worrying about women the…
/r/seduction21/04/22 03:28 PM
21

"What's the occasion?"
/r/seduction21/04/22 03:10 PM
43

Yeah. Been through this myself. Ultimately everyone is a human with limited time and they are able to make things happen if they truly want to. Actions always beat words. So you can make up any excuse or cope in your mind but just face the reality - something went wrong, maybe you can learn from it, and maybe you can't. Maybe the girl had a bad day or maybe you're creepy, try to improve somehow regardless of what you think it might be. story: I went on a trip to my old home town last week. A gir…
/r/seduction21/04/22 03:04 PM
2

I've honestly never waited that long with any girl I've actually slept with...... 2x 2 hour dates if you're slow...
/r/seduction21/04/22 11:49 AM
1

It's very hard to know. Can you honestly say that your place is clean, tidy, smells ok, and that someone with high standards for cleanliness would be comfortable there? Would it pass an inspection with 100 points if the landlord came over to take a look? Only you know the answer here. If you're not in college, you better have a place that SHOWS you have your shit together. If it stinks or you have old dried out cum socks or piles of pizza boxes sitting around, then you just shattered the illusio…
/r/seduction21/04/22 08:42 AM
1

For sure, nothing ever works even close to how the spreadsheet or flow chart in your head has it all planned out :P
/r/seduction21/04/22 03:54 AM
1

I consider reacting to shit-tests partially falling in her frame (reacting to her) because you are jumping over the hoops like a good dog. No.. the opposite is true. If she shit tests for example with 'is that your pickup line?' then falling into her frame would be 'oh no no, sorry, its not a pickup line, um actually i thought of it myself, (awkward silence)'. Any successful response to a shit test is basically saying 'I'm not falling for that'. Ignoring is definitely an option, if you just keep…
/r/seduction20/04/22 10:10 AM
1

It doesn't sound too bad if you got a kiss out of it and she's still talking to you. It can still go places even when things aren't flowing like a fairytale and/or banging her in your car after 30 minutes. I've had worse dates than that lead to sex and much better dates than that get ghosted, so there can be far different things going on in a woman's head that you really can't tell during the interaction. All knowledge increases your odds and leads to more improvement. So keep on grinding!
/r/seduction20/04/22 09:50 AM
1

How dangerous is Brazil and Colombia though? I've been scared off by facebook expat groups posting their stories about being drugged and robbed by innocent looking girls they went on a date with.. or mugged by gunpoint walking out of a shopping centre in the middle of the day.
/r/seduction20/04/22 03:36 AM
1

That's for white dudes to watch though, to be fair
/r/seduction20/04/22 03:35 AM
1

I could show you my app matches where I get zero response from them on the rare occasions I do match (doesn't matter whether I say something boring/funny/sexual/whatever), compared to the foreign ones that often open me, all excited. I'm not sure what it is. I am in great shape but I'm not into 'typical' Australian things like football, renovating houses, or watching horrific reality TV. I'm not much of a socialite, and maybe social game is the main thing here. Maybe foreign girls don't prioriti…
/r/seduction20/04/22 03:29 AM
1

I mean set the date in that session. By the next day she's already talked to 3 more chads.
/r/seduction20/04/22 03:23 AM
1

You may need to get new everything - phone, sim card, email, fb, photos. If deleting and recreating it doesn't work that is.
/r/seduction19/04/22 02:26 PM
11

These girls have the attention span of a fly because they get so much attention from any guy they want. Go for the meet quicker, like before you've signed off for the night. But yeah this one is probably lost. Been there done that.
/r/seduction19/04/22 02:23 PM
9

Pretty weird for anyone to bring it up. And I'd probably go with that. If anyone does I'd just give them a look and say 'that's kinda creepy dude, not cool'. They're fucking with you because they're getting a reaction, and you're going to have to give them something, but just assertively telling them what you do is private should be enough for any normal person to just leave it. Also don't slut shame because you want girls to sleep with you and not cockblock you just because someone else might s…
/r/seduction19/04/22 02:14 PM
3

Yeah that's it. I've had doctors, instagram models, rich daddy's princesses, teachers, students, girls a decade younger than me and everything in between.. but not one of them a 'local'. I cannot even fathom what they want or really even figure out who they are fucking so I pretty much have to just pretend they don't exist in order to not go insane..
/r/seduction19/04/22 02:02 PM
3

It's pretty (very fucking) grim, but I can't really say if that's a me thing or a women thing. All I know is I haven't managed to sleep with any Aus girl for 10+ years, while I can get multiple reasonably attractive foreign ones every year.
/r/seduction19/04/22 01:39 PM
9

You should be already slaying it in Australia TBH. If you're not then I don't know who is, it's not the white soy cucks I see moping around everywhere. From my own knowledge of Thailand and most of SE Asia you wouldn't have a lot of luck there. It's just a cultural racism thing. Maybe Bali though. I know a black dating coach who is there who seems to constantly smash (white) hippy yoga chicks without putting in any effort whatsoever.
/r/seduction19/04/22 12:52 PM
2

There's game and then there's PUA. Game is actually just social skills that some of us didn't learn properly when we were younger for whatever reasons. So you can't say that having normal human social skills is needy or tricks.
/r/seduction19/04/22 03:33 AM
3

Depends on your location and age. I'm in my 30's in Australia and it's $45 per month for me.
/r/seduction19/04/22 03:27 AM
4

Lean your head onto his shoulder
/r/seduction19/04/22 03:26 AM
1

greater chance of it backfiring and being misinterpreted Doesn't matter at all though when you already know that interview mode has 0% chance of going anywhere.
/r/seduction19/04/22 01:11 AM
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I also see what you mean, however I think it comes across as me being choosy, and having particular things I look for, rather than just telling her she's great/hot. And it does actually seem to work better on hotter girls. I also have a followup line that is just insanely effective and leads straight into sexting but I'm absolutely not going to ruin it by posting it here. All I will say is, when you tell her what your type is, you can then project particular attributes that you want her to be, e…
/r/seduction18/04/22 09:55 AM
12

Hmm. I am not going to say it works every time for me, but I'd get say a 1/3 response rate 'and what type is that' where anything generic like 'hey how are you' would get zero responses. If anything, it works better on hotter girls because they get the impression you're being selective and want to feel like they aren't just generic hot girl number 234. I think for a lot of guys they need to get a proper photoshoot done. You have to have a high enough perceived value in their mind before any 'lin…
/r/seduction18/04/22 09:37 AM
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Don't ask questions. It's not a job interview. Make statements. They will be curious about why you thought or said something "You look like just my type" > "oh really, what's your type exactly?" "That's it, our first date HAS to be at X place" (this would be in reference to something in her profile).
/r/seduction18/04/22 08:51 AM
1

Not how he thinks with everyone suddenly hooking up.
/r/seduction18/04/22 07:05 AM
6

Stop watching porn, man. This stuff does not happen.
/r/seduction18/04/22 01:30 AM
5

I get everything in theory, but not the girls in real life unfortunately XD
/r/seduction18/04/22 12:58 AM
1

There are plenty out there. The trouble is you are going to pay thousands to them and have no guarantee of results. Possibly try an online program first, it is possible to find torrents but pay for them if you can afford to. Todd Valentine's are one of my favourite, this is more 'technical game' but if you have the courage to approach as it sounds like you do, then it sounds like you just need some consistent strategies. I would suggest finding a fashion/styling coach too. These aren't cheap, bu…
/r/seduction18/04/22 12:36 AM
1

The difference is the bog standard average woman is a selector, while only the outlier high value men are.
/r/seduction18/04/22 12:17 AM
1

Don't overthink it. 'Hey <name>, woah, I got sidetracked there, how's things. Are you free X day and time?'
/r/seduction17/04/22 02:45 PM
2

Get into the fucking gym. Like don't just do chest day once every 2 weeks. Pick a program (one I like is Kris Gethin's Muscle Building Trainer) and get in there 5 times per week. Eat properly according to the program. I go there religiously most days and that's part of my day. I've got up early when I had a girl in my bed to have a workout and come back to bed before she woke up. You're cucking yourself into betahood if you're not getting physically stronger and generating the associated testost…
/r/seduction17/04/22 02:44 PM
13

Read faster man! It's a 3min read if you get good at it.
/r/seduction17/04/22 02:39 PM
29

Well done man. I always bring condoms with me no matter where I am, even if it's just work. You never know what can happen like some girl from the past messages you or whatever. Once you cock block yourself one single time by not having one with you then you'll learn that lesson. And even though I've raw dogged sometimes, any girl that actually lets you do it is probably letting every other guy nut in her too... I only narrowly escaped some horrible disease that one girl caught days after I saw …
/r/seduction17/04/22 02:36 PM
3

Girls will always give out their instagrams because it's zero risk and all gain for them to have more simp followers. Asking for that straight up just seems really low value and cringe. If you actually meet her then cool.. but this sounds like a friendly rejection really.
/r/seduction17/04/22 02:33 PM
61

Nope. Not in my experience. I had the best date of my life with a girl I know was perfect for me. She was even joking about what we should do 'next time'. I've had sex and relationships with girls before her where there was 1/3 as much chemistry and connection. We were out for hours. It was perfect. And... I never got any response from her ever again after that night. I sent more followup messages than I normally would (spaced out by a few days or a week), and I never heard a single thing from h…
/r/seduction17/04/22 02:30 PM
1

When I'm going through a dry spell it can in a jealous way hurt to hear about their success because at the time that seems so far away for me. So if they're kinda losers who aren't getting any then maybe that's what's happening.
/r/seduction17/04/22 02:26 PM
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