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If everybody decides to go this route the humanity will disappear in one generation. And what's wrong with this? It isn't great, it isn't bad. We're not even a speck in time and space.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:18 AM
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I guess you could hire a decent intelligent conscientious person to be a full time dad for 300k a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:14 AM
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Many people don't realize that in the developed world, it's not money that's holding people back. It's time and effort. People have much more choices for recreation and self actualisation and even in those countries, people with more of those and/or are more secure tend to have less kids. Look at the birth rates of Scandinavian countries with generous welfare and family friendly policies. Much lower birth rates. For me, enough to hire an additional person exactly like me who will look after the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:11 AM
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We don’t say it often because it’s toxic and rude. It shouldn't be perceived this way really. I think many people both men and women would prefer if both sides were clear on their expectations right from the start. But some people take offence from stupid shit and makes things harder for everybody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 10:58 AM
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Elon to open his wallet and give her a coin I'm imagining this literally and it's cracking me up. I'm thinking it's either a shitty chocolate coin or pure gold. Either way, it's just the size of an oreo cookie.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:36 PM
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Yea, I thinks the study is flawed because men aren't sexualised on their chest and waist. I don't know where men are sexualised (biceps, jaw line, bank account, job title?) but the study authors need to change that to see if it's noticed by the participants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:29 PM
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Lol yea, good point. Chris Hemsworth with glasses is still fucking Chris Hemsworth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 04:08 AM
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My wife and I are from different countries, met and now living in a third country. Our politics isn't super different but it's something we don't talk about a lot. Like maybe its 5-10% of things we talk about. It mostly comes about when its time to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 03:58 AM
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You just said you find 30-40% of women in your area attractive. Those are your standards and they aren't average.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 02:37 AM
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Reddit shadowdeletes your comment but my reply to you is that your standards for attractiveness aren't average and average guys will get together with average girls who you might not find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 02:05 AM
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Yup. My small city in Australia was relatively unaffected by COVID but people weren't online much to begin with. That's probably a big factor in my experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:59 AM
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What percent of women in your country do you consider attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:30 AM
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Lol this 100%. It's more of a life-stage and type-of-person thing than an age group thing. Some people never get past it and some people never reach that stage. My social circle is mainly outdoor recreation and sports enthusiasts, most don't have a huge social media presence (will have Instagram to share pictures but very rarely tiktok). They're too involved in real life to do this shit. I don't blame them though, being 20 now means having spent their 18-20s during the time of COVID. There's som…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:27 AM
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I think skincare is already here. I see many male influencers talking about it all the time on youtube. It's right up there with food boxes and real estate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:01 AM
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Then they're not average dudes if they barely get anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 11:19 PM
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No need to fudge the goalposts. This is 25 BMI though and the 81% (yes it's 81% for women in 2017/18) rate starts from this threshold. https://imgur.com/a/V86JDZd Furthermore, 54% would be actual obese (above BMI 30) so this "men attracted to 80% of women" doesn't math. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/obesity-adult-17-18/obesity-adult.htm#table1
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 10:42 AM
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Dumb also because it assumes that the man has never changed and is essentially the same person as in high school. Personal example, I got fitter and more outgoing and that gave me a much easier time in my twenties and than in my teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:39 PM
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I mean, the "no comment" bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:30 PM
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Hmm? Not sure I understand what you're trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:55 AM
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As a guy I'm never going to go raw with someone who has never had a recent STD panel. With all previous and current relationships, when we agree to go raw, we both get tested and she goes on the pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:06 PM
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You waste your time on people that don't bring value into your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:26 AM
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Random accounts on the internet don't matter, whether there is proof or not, whether they are full of shit or not. The sooner you get over it the less frustrated you'll be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:17 AM
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I've had with other people, including a hell of a lot of random accounts on the internet. And why is it supposed to matter if you think people are full of shit or not, with proof or without?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:36 PM
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An insecure man
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:26 PM
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Why does it matter? It's just random accounts bouncing off each other on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:25 PM
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but there is also a feeling of accomplishment, socialization, comfort... etc. So just more social validation then? They're already doing this to ply people with good feelings in lieu of better pay or working conditions. The success level differs of course and organizational psychology is constantly trying to optimize it. Some examples (with varying levels of success): Pizza parties, promotions, worker of the week/month/year, awards, titles, social media challenges, news articles, identity politi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:42 AM
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You don't make the rules around here. This is an open forum and I do have the time to carry on the conversation, just that the effort is not justified for fringe ridiculous takes ever present on this forum. I am a man btw, and I find many of these takes seem to be astro turfing by misandrists trying to make men look like incompetent, socially inept extremists. You don't need to keep going back to his scenario I know what it is, and I do acknowledge that it does happen but its not a case for anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:21 AM
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This sub or reddit in general is so irrelevant to real life that I can't be bothered spending more effort on it really. Sure some men don't get a woman's younger years, some men marry after less than a year, some men don't care about their wives, some men don't care about their relationships. If you want to make a platform out of fringe cases on reddit to make yourself feel better then go ahead. Some ugly and poor men also get rich and hot women, some women also approach men, some people get imm…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 06:00 AM
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Again. The first sentence explicitly says that the man did not get her 20s. It can’t possibly describe the scenario clearer. Anyone who read it once would know this. You cannot unwrite his first sentence just because you don’t like his opinion. I didn't unwrite the sentence. I'm saying its a fantastical scenario that is wrong and doesn't happen. Sure, most men desire a woman's 20s the most. That doesn't mean that those are her "best years" in the context of a relationship, other experiences at o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:51 AM
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I've read the words multiple times and its obviously wrong on so many fronts but you just refuse to see that. The OP's fantastical premise answers its own questions on likelihood 1) A man marrying a woman at 30 has most likely spent a few years of her twenties with her. 2) A woman's "best years" are not necessarily in her twenties as "best" from any perspective is not entirely based on "desire" but a whole bunch of other experiences and outcomes as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:37 AM
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I'm a man and I don't believe the rabid "men" accounts with the ridiculous takes on dating and women. It's probably some misandrists trying to make men look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 11:21 PM
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This was not my invention as I did not author this post. Could have fooled me, you seem so hell-bent on viewing this post a certain way. So if you agree with this post, do you think a man's best years are his tallest years?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 11:10 PM
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A woman's best years meaning what? I don't see an age number attached to this at all. You're almost starting to get it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:41 PM
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Which is a false premise
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:41 PM
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However this works out is reality is not for me to explain since this is your intentionally absurd statement. Well it's your idea that desirable = best. So if the man's most desirable years are when they are at their tallest (it's a biological fact that one's height changes over the years), then your idea is that a man's best years is when they are at their tallest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:40 PM
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Go and mock them on their forum then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:54 PM
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So are a man's tallest years his best years?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:07 AM
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Many traditionalists reckon that a woman's best years is when they are raising kids and tending to the house at home. Do you disagree with this view?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:06 AM
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This is a CMV. The thing that is incorrect with their view is that getting married in the 30s = most likely dated in their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:05 AM
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Yes, but the best years aren't defined solely by one aspect of desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:59 AM
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If a man did not get her 20s, this is a distinction compared to a man who did get her 20s. The scenario is already clear and accounted for. The scenario is accounted for in that getting married at 30 means he most likely did get her in 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:59 AM
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Depends on the woman of course. I'd say it's an equal split equally. But a man's tallest years or years with the most resources are not necessarily his "best" years. Desirable =/= best
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:57 AM
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Desire is a superficial thing. "The best" is not necessarily the most desirable to one party or the other. Did said studies mention if it leads to better outcomes or not? There have been multiple studies that show getting married in your late twenties lead to better outcomes for the couple. Lower divorce rate and longer life expectancy for men among other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:55 AM
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Why do you think women are more desirable in their early 20s? You are right about the immaturity bit and nothing about that sounds attractive at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:46 AM
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That is also what wider society has also said of 98% of the cults and fringe groups that fade into obscurity. The alternative hierarchies predominantly are not attractive to segments of society that belong in wider society and/or they become disruptive enough to be legislated against and that's how they slowly disappear as trends come and go.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 01:48 AM
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And thus they have no relevance to wider society
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 01:41 AM
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Mainly here to sometimes balance out the ridiculous takes from misandrists posing as incels to give men a bad name.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:13 AM
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The premise that "your best" is the early twenties is false as well. Immature, studying, changing tastes and personality, unrealistic ideas about the world and barely independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:00 AM
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No, this is the title of the post. The actual "spirit" of the post is to try and advance a thesis of likelihood. If you are 30 and marry a 30 year old man then there's an 99 percent chance that he is settling. The situation is 30 and marry and a 30 year old man. The thesis is whether he is settling or not. OP's thesis is that there is a 99% chance the man is settling. Pay attention to the keyword "chance" Do you want us to assume this is a normal (i.e highly likely/high chance) situation or an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:24 PM
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So assume they didn't spend much time together before getting married (which isn't what happens) rather than assume they spent a few years together before getting married (which is what actually happens)?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:11 PM
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It doesn't have to be a competitive or formal sport. It can be any for of physical activity. Hiking, climbing, kayaking, cycling, swimming, archery etc. Before the age of computers, these things weren't sports, they were normal things people did to get around. If the child has no interest in physical activity, then the parents have done something wrong in not developing that interest. With the right nurturing, you can get any child to be mildly interested in any mainstream activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:17 AM
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>If someone is cautious and deliberate in finance then he or she should, for the sake of consistency This is a false assumption. There is no "for the sake of consistency". This is a rule created by you and you only. Sending your life savings to a Nigerian prince is obviously very different from agreeing to have an exclusive relationship with another human with the idea that it might turn into something long term. There is nothing consistent between the two. Obtusely applying caution to the exact…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:20 AM
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The issue here is conflating all of these things. Relationships are not financial scams. Commitment phobia in relationships is not the same as being financially prudent. Recklessness is not love. A person can have a healthy view towards getting into relationships and handling their finances at the same time. If you are finding trouble assessing these types of decisions differently then you might want to seek therapy to help you sort out your perception of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 07:18 AM
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Ah. True. I get what you're saying. Lol. Probably a very small minority. My wife likes nice watches, but none of that giant gaudy wrist mounted manhole stuff. Definitely not gold, or rolexes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:42 PM
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Yea sure but I'm choosing the average looking career woman with a strong earning power with no self esteem issues who brings me peace over a broke hot girl with their self esteem based on looks who brings me money problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:35 PM
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Thats not particularly fancy. Expensive, I'll give you that but lacks taste or style.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:33 PM
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Why does that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:32 PM
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I think they were quite specific about it being gold as was my question. Because I do agree that fancy watches do look nice and attract attention yes but gold watches are yuck (but this is just personal taste hence my question).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:09 PM
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What percentage of those are actually gold watches?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:41 PM
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I was focusing on this part actually. because men don't get access to a woman's money. Why not? Because they absolutely do in marriage. It was like this in the past yes, but not now. Women's earning and purchasing power has increased significantly and men can see the difference this makes to their quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:08 AM
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Men don't care that much about your career because men don't get access to a woman's money. Why not? Having an increased household purchasing power is how families build wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:54 AM
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Do people really still consider gold watches to be attractive in this day and age?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:53 AM
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So not all women like bad boys then? Time to stop playing games and actually read what I am actually saying. What's the incentive to do what you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 11:54 AM
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Not really ppd but I'm wondering how the insurance adjusters will see this. Is negligence considered suicide? Where do they draw the line. Is cleaning your loaded gun negligence or suicide? - I'm guessing whichever is convenient to the insurance company. Would swimming in the ocean while half paralyzed at 10pm be negligence or suicide? Is there I way to administratively prove that you're not suicidal when swimming alone at 10pm? Like buy air tickets, leave a log. Act happy. Routinely come back a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 11:46 AM
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Same thing with women, women are designed to parasitically use men for there resources. Using words and feeling to manipulate others to extract as much as they can. So are all women like this, or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 11:42 AM
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There will be less and less of involuntarily eliminated due to whatever shift there is. You're assuming that the reasons for involuntary eliminations stay the same or that the phenotype that leads to involuntary elimination is uniform enough to select for. You are having trouble with your thesis because you think human sociological reasons for "eliminations" or even "involuntary eliminations" are one-dimensional like colours of a moth or a beak shape that can be removed or altered through breedi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 04:51 AM
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Who else gets eliminated is part of the point because you are using elimination as the mechanism and outcome of selection. Not referring to them or not making it part of your point won't make them go away or stop happening. Involuntarily elimination will happen, but so will voluntarily elimination which is the exact same outcome so I'm not sure how this will select for anything in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 02:34 AM
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The ones who are dumb enough to not be able to have an offspring are less likely to survive the natural selection. I see it as a test of intelligence. Yes this is what you said in context. Its not a test of intelligence because voluntary or not, the outcome is still the same - no offspring. So it cannot be a test of intelligence if both dumb and intelligent people will have and not-have offspring. It doesn't select for anything other than the drive to have kids, which doesn't reflect intelligenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 02:19 AM
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Yup. Dumb people will do both of these things. Same with intelligent people. So dumb people who have no offspring will not survive, dumb people who have offspring will survive. Intelligent people who have offspring will survive, intelligent people who have no offspring will not survive. Was that your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 02:01 AM
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The ability to have children has nothing to do with intelligence at all. If you dropped your standards all the way down and made it your priority to impregnate as many women as possible you could easily have a few children over the year with women who are dumb enough to fall for your tricks or lacked the resources for abortion or contraceptive. On top of that, it would be quite dumb for a person to actually pursue this plan of having as many kids as possible. So double whammy of dunb which leads…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 01:50 AM
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Yeah thats not true, the studies show otherwise and I had a conversation with another Scandinavian man on this thread that confirmed your statement to be incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 01:04 PM
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I didn't know Arnold joined his line to the Kennedys. This is an interesting piece of celeb tidbit. Seems like Katherine is high value as well. That's quite a strong pairing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 12:06 AM
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Wait till you try polar Bear plunge into runny eggs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 01:55 PM
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Every man should go through a few months of basic military training. The indoctrination die for your country is not important but the discipline, fitness and confidence in working in harsher environments is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:13 AM
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And down the spectrum, shitty men get into relationships all the time with shitty women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:00 AM
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She tells him she wants "something serious" before moving forward to more intimacy. He doesn't push it. They kiss good bye. M already established that she wants something serious before moving forward to more intimacy. J likes her very much, but he's not sure he's in for a serious relationship with her right now. Up till the last date, J wasn't sure if he is ready for what M wants. At one point, half naked, M stops him and tells him they should wait for a more serious relationship as they agreed…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 12:47 AM
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Isn't Bella Delphine considered like well within the top 1-5% of egirls? The average egirl is definitely not attractive and quite likely the most of them too, even more so without makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 01:29 AM
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What is a god?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 10:29 AM
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So if it can happen, then lowering your standards work enough. Just that you could be unsuccessful at one point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 02:09 AM
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So you're saying that Chad cannot get low quality girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 12:15 AM
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Yup, the jabs still happens but it's never in an I'm better than you kind of way like "what about that blowjob you promised that other friend?". Or in a self-deprecating roundabout way like "I wanted to give you a blowjob but I was worried I wouldn't be able to find it". There is also a lot of baby and career advice. Talking about hobbies and started collaborations with different friends and different hobbies. Talking, joking and sometimes complaining about life experiences. Other stuff people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 02:01 AM
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That seems to be old data. Now, women are only 24% of the users on tinder (in the USA). Absolute sausagefest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 01:52 AM
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At this point those guys would be better off finding foreign women and traveling But that would require more effort than thumbing a screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 01:48 AM
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You're right but guys keep mindlessly flocking to it. That's because guys are the market. It's like ladies night. Seems unsustainable financially at face value but the market for it is great.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 01:43 AM
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Lol yea. I'm a guy and I would find vag pics from ladies I'm not attracted to very disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 01:39 AM
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I am married man and I have a few relatively close girl friends I could do some of this with. I consider all of these quite normal except for the vacationing 1:1 and I simply don't enjoy drinking and partying anymore. A couple of these girlfriends helped keep my wife company and helped her/us as required when I was away for several months in another city. We're well in the double-date territory as well. Have been on multiple business trips with them 1:1 sometimes in the same accomodation unit bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 01:29 AM
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I think that will either change up the market place or raise everyone's standards. This will apply to both sexes. Women can get a male bot that does everything they want and likewise for men. I don't think humanity is doomed unless people really lose the edge to procreate. Women can get sperm donations and there is no need to worry about childcare and education. It will be harder for men to have kids because I assume either human time will cost a lot more or harder to come by because of post-sca…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 01:58 AM
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Why do they matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 03:53 PM
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Ew no. I wouldn't go 50 percentiles below where I'm at unless I'm dead drunk. The risk of attracting gossip, drama, diseases and crime is way too great.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 03:43 PM
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You would have a point if we were dating that AI things and photographs instead of live moving humans. And you also just showed that the AI's evaluation is all over the place. But to humour your point, time place, outliers, standard deviations, even greater personalities and luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 06:55 AM
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I've made it a point to always go 50/50 since my early twenties and I've had no problem in pairing up with my valuematch. In fact, my first date is always this casual restaurant that I apparently found out most the girls I end up going further with actually dislike (but I like quite a bit). I would pay for other stuff like beers or ice cream or post-activity if it went well enough. But never the main meal itself. But then again, I never pursue sex on the first date. It's just a screening encount…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 02:53 AM
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Because the overall point is trying to gloss over the fact that a 20 percentile disparity in looks is easily overcome by improving personality and how they are treated. 50 percentile not so much. A looks 10 wouldn't even give the time of day to a looks 5. A 7 could screw around 5 for a bit but not treat them like a human being. A 5 with a good personality that treats them like a human being is better than a 7 that does not but most people aren't born with that knowledge. Obviously numbers matter…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 12:29 PM
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A 3-5, 5-7 and 8-10 is well within normal tolerances for looksmatching because personality can make up the difference so its less outrage inspiring which is why you didn't go with a smaller gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 11:11 AM
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As if 10/10 would bother giving the time of day to a 5/10 much less any "fun experiences".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 09:41 AM
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As long as that works for you my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:05 AM
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Men are very responsive to what gets them The Sex. So if being a "asshole" (in the pursues his goals and puts himself first kind of way) got men over the goal line, then TBP would be all about spinning plates, not caring about women and other TRP stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 09:27 AM
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Men and women are getting married to their relative equal (plus minus a little bit) so then there is no hypergamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 01:18 AM
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This is a bit of a straw man because they weren't referring to specifically asking to bone. It's a matter of presenting whether they want a casual relationship or a serious relationship. Men aren't being demonized for wanting sex. It's already assumed we eventually want sex when we ask a woman out on a date. The fact that they agreed, suggests that they're evaluating giving it to us. (Fully acknowledging that the outcome of that evaluation is to string men along for the free meals for some women…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 12:42 AM
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That's what you took from this? This is ppd, are you surprised?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 12:35 AM
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Yea I would want my wife dating again after I'm dead. 6 months is not unreasonable at all. Do not want her torturing herself all over that especially if it helps her get over my death faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 12:32 AM
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In most scenarios this is the case. There will always be some delusional people who needs to decide if they prefer to drop their delusions and partner up or if they prefer to hold on to their delusions and be frustrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 11:44 PM
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The reality is qualitymatch begets qualitymatch. No point going around in circles about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 11:40 PM
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It would be nice if everyone worked really hard on themselves and it would be nice if everyone understood their “ place” in the social hiarchy Yup, which is why we should do our part to encourage it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 11:37 PM
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That's because educated upper class qualitymatched marriages are quality match. If a 2 man or woman keeps dreaming about a 5 man or woman they will of course be unhappy. Why do you think a 2 will be happy with a 3? Why do you think a 3 will be happy with a 2? This is reality and the best two autonomous people can consensually get unless they improve themselves. Anything else is just delusional. High expectations minus low reality equals unhappiness. I never disagreed that both sides need to adju…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 11:33 PM
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You're fudging the point by merging all the different numbers together. 2 will be happy with 3. 3 will be happy with 4. You cannot be 2-3-4-5 at the same time. If you are a 4 you can easily get a 3. You might need to put in effort to get a 4 but it's very possible. If a 7 man can give a 2 woman attention, so can a 4 man. Most Women rather be wives than sidechicks so if you are looking for a long term relationship you do get some advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 11:25 PM
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Because women below them are extremely available and simple to be around. Thanks, this is my entire point. I did say most men except the ones right at the bottom would have no issues if they dropped their standards. So there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 11:16 PM
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I didn't say anything about looksmatch. I was talking about overall qualitymatch. Why would guys show attention to women below them when they can get attention from women at their qualitymatch?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 11:12 PM
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Most men do get this attention from their qualitymatch. Those men who are unable to see it just set their standards too high and are treating those below their standards as invisible. If you're not getting attention from average women you're a below average man I'm sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 11:07 PM
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No, women are having to adjust their expectations too. But if both parties are realistic with what they can get, there will be no issues. Men are getting female attention, it's just that they don't consider those women attractive enough to them. What do you mean by female attention anyway, from strangers on the street? Or just being bombarded by attempts at communication?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:59 PM
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Average man gets no interest from women, adjust expectations from what to what? How does it change his condition? Average man gets no interest from women the ideal women they want. Adjust expectations to one or two parameters less than idea, see how it goes. Rinse and repeat. Most men (barring the worst of the worst) can get a cumulative quality match (age, career, personality, looks etc) with a woman similar in quality to them. I.e a 40th percentile quality man can match with a 40th percentile …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 12:51 PM
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Adjusting your expectations means you get something that is qualitymatch. You're on to something though, having unrealistic expectations means you are as good as getting nothing and will continue to be frustrated until they adjust their expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 08:18 AM
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But with one you get something and the other, you get nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 08:13 AM
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So you don't thing people's personality change through their life like ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:37 AM
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I think that men can mess up personality-wise anywhere from before the approach to after they get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:31 AM
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So do you think that people who cannot get what should bitch and moan or adjust their expectations?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:30 AM
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Isn't the argument that people who don't get what they want should adjust their expectations or not bitch and moan?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:17 AM
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Let's be generous and say it's every man you have known and anecdotally heard this complain from. Let's call it 2000 men. It just needs to happen to 10% of men that another 10 people would have known or anecdotally heard this complain to balance it out. Assuming no continued overall overlap, adding another 10 people to the latter group with the similar 3rd person experiences and you'd have 6000 complainants out of 42000 possible men. Most to you is a lot less than sometimes to even 50 people, mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:15 AM
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Most times to you is a lot less than sometimes for everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:05 AM
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The only reason why women are 51% of the population is because of senior citizens. I thought we men aren't the picky ones 😆😆😆
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:28 AM
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After a year from breakup i'm here posting because i'm starting to believe i don't have much choice between celibacy and settling You just have to figure out your priorities and aim for the ones that are most important to you. Your qualities and where you are at determines who is likely to be willing to be in a relationship with you. If you feel your pool is not to your liking, change your qualities and/or location. From that pool of candidates, you filter them by your priorities, hair colour, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:21 AM
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Wait, so is the problem not being able to find anything short term, long term, casual or serious because they are all polar opposites from each other. The market cannot have none of them available at the same time to the same quality of man. If this is observed at the individual level then the problem lies with the individual or luck, not the market. If one man of similar quality is having to settle for something another man of similar quality is having access to but also dislikes and the issue …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:07 AM
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A simple example is when guys choose to date because they can't really get anything casually, they don't like dating, hate the dynamic, but its his only option so he either concedes, or faps, This wasn't posted by the person you were replying. What do you think this is then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 04:44 AM
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>Yes you are. You showed stats about income levels and the number of children being born to them. The stats wasn't all about the elites. Actually have a look at them before you comment. The paper looked at high managers all the way down to unskilled workers and farmers. The household income stats encompassed 10 different income groups from 200k down to below 10k. You did not post any stats about childlessness among different demographics, and childlessness is the point I made and what you are ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:02 AM
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I think you're shifting the goal posts towards happiness rather than overall "functionality" in society (as judged by most people) which was what was being discussed but thats fine, we can wrap it up in the term "quality of life". The Human development index is a good measurement of quality of life, not just income or happiness but also what options a person has and how valued their life is. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/children-per-woman-vs-human-development-index You can see that countri…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 10:49 AM
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I'm not talking about the elite and I'm not talking about having lots of children either. It's a gradient, not binary. The more functional and successful the person, the less likely they are to have kids. Incels and femcel basement dweller types and those who fail to reproduce are just another group of people that society considers "dysfunctional". Drug addicts, criminals, chronically unemployment do not fail to reproduce but are another aspect of dysfunction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:38 AM
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It seems a given that healthy functional successful are people more likely to have children That's not true. People from with higher socioeconomic status and income are less likely to have children. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s43545-020-00028-y https://www.statista.com/statistics/241530/birth-rate-by-family-income-in-the-us/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:01 AM
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Absolute value is just replacement value so unless more men or women started dating each other instead of the opposite sex, the percentile value is the same as absolute value. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ The proportion of single men and women are exactly the same. It doesn't matter that men are fitter because (as above) absolute value is the replacement value and men aren't selecting from the pool of men but the pool of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 01:18 AM
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Wait, are the women that much lower or them, or equal? I'm not sure what you're referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 11:08 PM
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It's quality is all relative to the rest of the male of female population. A man ranked at 50% among all men earns 30% more than a woman ranked 50% among all women so dating down is not unexpected for qualitymatch. https://dqydj.com/income-by-sex/ So a woman asking for a man to make 50% more if they looks match and he has a worse personality than her and a rank in looks makes sense. I don't see many women really requiring 50% positive earning difference so maybe those are the ones willing to com…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 11:21 AM
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Men want looksmatch but they realistically they will get qualitymatch because personality and career also plays a part of the equation. Men have no problem getting qualitymatch if they date according to what their looks, career and personality will afford them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:43 AM
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The breathing simulator DLC/add-on pack is probably going to be quite easily designed and made.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:40 AM
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Ah so the solution for poor people to earn more is just choose higher paying careers, negotiate salaries, push for raises and pursue advanced certifications. Poverty solved, just choose not to be poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 01:52 PM
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Don't worry about it. I'm concluding your view on gender expectations are untrue because it is. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 01:36 PM
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A few women getting turned off because the guy she is with isn't strong isn't most people. There will inevitably be some people who share your perceptions and judgement. FYI power and influence isn't solely confined to profession. A fit woman who does martial arts or gym recreationally will be expected by society to be less insecure than a man with cerebral palsy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 01:25 PM
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I'm saying you're mistaking those expectations based on societal context such as power and influence as expectations based on gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 01:13 PM
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Touche. 2022. It does be like that though, most people consider insecurity tiresome to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:35 AM
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Which is why I said the expectations is based on social roles rather than gender roles. In the absence of social roles/context (i.e power and influence), all else being equal, most people have no difference in expectations of insecurity for either males or females.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:40 AM
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Insecurity is not a gender role. In the same situation a woman and man with the same responsibility responding to the same situation will be treated the same by most people. Societal roles are different from gender roles. The insecurity expectations will be the same from a woman and man sanitary worker. Woman or man CEO. Woman or man retail worker. Woman or man lawyer. Woman or man SWAT officer. That is why you see differences you see in expectations to protect others or expressing body image in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 06:37 AM
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Yup it's 2021. When appropriate/expected like loss of loved ones or pet, at the movies or when in pain. When inappropriate/unexpected like at a meeting or during an exam. Most people would be repulsed by men or women equally. I'm not sure why you think crying equals to insecurity though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:55 AM
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Nah, I disagree. Most people dislike it in men and women the same amount. They definitely feel more repulsed by it than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:36 AM
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Nah, I couldn't tolerate an insecure woman who is dependent on external validation for their self-esteem/image. I don't date men but I do slowly drift away from my guy friends who are like that. It's like having a chip on their shoulder, it gets extremely tiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:24 AM
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No, a lot of women want a relationship with someone close to their value.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 01:06 PM
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Do you genuinely believe every redditor doesn’t go outside? Nope. Just the one constantly whinging about women and expressing wacky views on PPD. And it's not just "going outside". It's interacting with real people. How out of touch are you that you don't see that people are unahppy but not because they agree with the fringe views on PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:18 AM
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What's the valuematch of an average looking, overweight, broke, non-virgin 25 year old woman? Depends on their personality. All else being equal, probably an average looking, overweight, broke, 25 year old woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:40 AM
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If you go outside a little bit and talk to some real people, you would realize that dating isn't such a wasteland.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:23 AM
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You don't have to "not care". I'm just here to be entertained by the offkelter worldviews from both sides of the fringe minority. Just spend a few days out in the real world interacting with real world people and you'll start to realize how truly wacky some views can be here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:37 AM
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There is no surplus men looking for sex/relationships. Both parties want them in same amounts except men do have to do the approaching I'll grant you that. Women will likely (discounting the usual few who are not read, single forever etc) want a relationship with a man who valuematches them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:34 AM
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As a guy you don't go on dates for fun? Like what? It's a duty or a chore?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:27 AM
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It can be outright dangerous for a sub 7 male to approach women in person in 2022. Not surprising someone who thinks like this have trouble dating. Good to know that the market is self-correcting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:25 AM
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Probably because of the emotional and political baggage surrounding the choice of having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:49 AM
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Exactly why this 6 ft and up meme is just a meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:29 AM
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I'm not complaining about the lack of studies, I'm just using their argument against them. Its not a rebuttal. Its a shit argument vs a shit argument. I'm just goin There is no perfect study so its just limited scope vs limited scope. Its fine if you want to complain about OLD but don't stretch it to real life. And also, there is no social stigma or incentive on transiting to dating from friendship or not. From what I read, none of the link were longitudinal studies, they were point-in-time or r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:23 AM
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"64% of men and 44% of women reported that their cross-sex friends became their sexual partners." Ooof ppd 80/20 whingers in shambles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:57 PM
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Do you have any stats to prove your "80/20" theory that isn't from online dating? How does an online dating study make a good pool to compare the entire sexual marketplace which spans a lot more ages and demographics than "online dater"? And what's your agenda? Making lols? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:50 PM
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I'm sorry, what do we need women for in a society? The same reason we need men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:45 PM
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His true value in 1998 is different from his true value now. You cannot retrospectively assign "value". Anything could have happened between then and now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:08 AM
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Imagine trying to distill mate sorting into a handful of KPIs and expecting that people would follow those rules of equivalence values. Imagine expecting these "KPIs" to be able to predict human behaviour and how people might trade these values with one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:29 AM
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Where do you rank yourself out of all single men in terms of the overall package as perceived by the large majority of single women? Where do you rank the type of women you are after out of all single women in terms of the overall package as perceived by the large majority of single men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:23 AM
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Do you have a source that men's view of female attractiveness as a whole (not just looks) is a perfect bell curve while the female's view is not?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:07 AM
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I'm not talking about just looks here, an average man includes the full package. Exactly its the qualitymatch for the whole package. Women want the exceptional Does this include exceptionally ugly men? Although I'll say I've never seen a woman with a fat, bald, short, ugly, unemployed man. I don't doubt it's happened, but I would assume it's so rare it's an outlier. I've seen so many deadbeat men with women who stick with them through thick and thin. The thing is, from what I can see, they're ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 08:56 AM
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So these men have 100% success because women would never say no?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:42 AM
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So you are saying that these men can sleep with woman the meet because of the implications that things might go wrong for her if she refuses to sleep with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:23 PM
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You don't even know what I was quoting. And you don't know what hypocrisy means. Keep stretching.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 12:41 PM
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You lied about a quote and misrepresented the entire manosphere. I didn't lie about the quote. Anyone can see its obviously not a statement made by you but a statement made by me. Fair enough, I did misprepresent the entire manosphere. I shall change it to "The men who complain about women on r/ppd in a nutshell". No it's not, so don't do it you hypocrite. Its not hypocrisy if I haven't made a judgement on whether either one of those statements are differentially valid or not. I have treated bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 12:30 PM
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What implication?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 12:25 PM
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Well it was the exact same argument you made just flipping man for women. So is using an example of a small number of people to vilify an entire group valid or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 10:29 AM
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Bald fat short ugly unemployed criminal junkies have no issues finding girlfriends or baby mommies. I don't see any discrepancy in their quality compared to their partners. It's more like everyone has a qualitymatch and you have to adjust your expectations if you want to match.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 09:55 AM
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Women across the entire spectrum are more willing to be single and alone than "settle" for your average man. Then how would you explain bald fat short ugly unemployed criminal junkies lock down girlfriends or baby mommies. I don't see any discrepancy in their quality compared to their partners. It's more like everyone has a qualitymatch and you have to adjust your expectations if you want to match.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 09:55 AM
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You've seen the immature behavior of 10/3,500,000,000 women on the planet and used it to vilify women. Too true, the people who complain about women on r/ppd in a nutshell. Edited to not vilify the entire manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 09:44 AM
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Most women these days are very busy with their collage How much time does it take to make a collage and how many collages do you think women are actually making?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 09:42 AM
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Personality and confidence can be attractive too
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 11:24 PM
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The problem with most advice of old is that it's too vague to mean anything Who's problem is it if they choose to treat platitudes as advice and especially if they keep following said advice that doesn't work without trying anything new? You try and give people some actual advice and they're like "oh no I'm too good for that, I'm going to stick to doing things my way thanks." So often here you see all sorts of excuses pop up with simple practical advice - almost as if they don't want to change, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 11:21 PM
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Definitely not wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 11:16 PM
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I did that to point out the fallacy you posted on the public internet. Feel free to take it to PMs if you want to keep it private. Also please do point out the part where my "attitude" was above tone and I will tone it down. . Actual gold diggers don't care about being called gold diggers Actual evil men don't care about being called evil Sure I don't like being called evil but I have never been called evil by anyone whose opinions I cared about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:50 AM
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1) I'm not a woman 2) I never mentioned loneliness anywhere 3) You and the person you are replying to can make your own connections about what is deserved or not 4) I just pointed out that just because the consequence does not happen to everyone who deserved it does not invalidate the fact that someone is deserving of said consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:43 AM
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I mean that was your argument wasn't it. That the philosophy fails because not everyone who deserves it gets it. That's a just-world fallacy. Not everyone who deserves to go to jail, goes to jail. That doesn't change the fact that they still deserve to go to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:36 AM
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And that's all fine and well if you're actually happy, but that doesn't seem to be the case for the many people The quote "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" (or expecting things to magically change), comes to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 02:39 AM
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If I wanted the milk I would do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:08 PM
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it means the squeeze is so shitty it overpowers whatever good the juice had. i.e you don't want the juice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 08:59 AM
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If for example if a woman got rejected by all the dudes she liked for being flat would some dude on the internet saying " my girl friend is flat", invalidate her lived experience ? Depends on her claim. If she just stuck to describing her lived experience without generalizing anymore than the people she got rejected by, then her claim would be valid If she made a sweeping umbrella statement about men, the majority of men, many men or men she have never encountered, then her claim would be invali…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 06:03 AM
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If you don't want to try, do you really want the outcome?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:52 AM
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Its not supposed to be a guarantee, its supposed to improve your chances. If you needed to roll 2 sixes with three dice, would you say no getting several more dice? The best way to create "inorganic" ways of meeting women is to try as many new ways as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:20 AM
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Why does it matter in the grand scheme of things? Nations and cultures never last forever. People will move to seek the best conditions available to them while adapting their behavior to give themselves the best chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:37 PM
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This and the comment below really why I'm not going to have kids. I have the resources and have the potential to gain more but I can't gain more time and effort to spend. I'm not going to spend my prime years waking up in the middle of the night to a crying child and a decade more in extra cooking and cleaning. People are always super idealistic for kids but there's a reason why people started having fewer kids the more options they had to self-actualize and enrich their lives. I'm not going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:55 PM
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Im curious about all this hysteria surrounding the demographics of the west. Why does it matter in the grand scheme of things? Nations and cultures never last forever. People will move to seek the best conditions available to them while adapting their behavior to give themselves the best chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 01:00 PM
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See what coming and why would I be sad?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 09:46 AM
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No need to be so dramatic and hysterical. Having a few more people who are single by choice won't make a difference. There was more than half as many people on the planet (4 billion fewer) humans on the planet just 50 years ago. Some would argue it was the golden age for America. America will be fine. The rest of the world will be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 08:51 AM
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It's the perfect level of enough. The equilibrium between the preferences towards one's expectations and one's desire to date will always be found. It's up to the individual to adjust their expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:27 AM
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No. I said if you cannot buy the item for 50 of your dollars, the value isn't 50 of your dollars. If you cannot sell the item for 1,000,000 of your dollars, the value isn't 1,000,000 of your dollars. Each person is a market attempting to trade with their own currency which has a different exchange rate. Both parties can be delusional if they cannot find any willing traders. The buyer can be delusional for expecting to get what they think is worth 50 of their dollars but not finding any willing s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:13 AM
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They are still single women who could otherwise be paired with a man from their age group. Many men date between 3-7 years younger and that essentially overlaps into 15-50% of the adjacent younger group of women. It goes up all the way into 65+ men partnered with 55+ year old women or being dead which is why 21% of 65+ year men are single but 49% of 65+ year women are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:03 AM
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If you cannot sell it for a million dollars of a certain currency, it isn't worth a million dollars of that currency either. You either drop the price or accept that it won't sell. It's the same for both buyers and sellers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:59 AM
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If you cannot buy the item for 50 of your dollars, the value isn't 50 of your dollars. You have the free choice to pay enough to convince the seller to sell or buy from another seller.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:42 AM
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Did you even bother to look at the data? Many men date between 3-7 years younger and that essentially overlaps into 15-50% of the adjacent younger group of women. It goes up all the way into 65+ men partnered with 55+ year old women or being dead which is why 21% of 65+ year men are single but 49% of 65+ year women are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:38 AM
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100%. After a couple of relationships I realized that after some point, the sex isn't worth it and I started vetting character much more stringently after. Eventually sex just becomes another fun recreational activity that you enjoy with your partner and the many other major interactions you have with her are much more important
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:56 AM
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It has already been explained to you that the number of single men and single women in your data is exactly the same. Many men date between 3-7 years younger and that essentially overlaps into 15-50% of each group. It goes up all the way into 65+ men partnered with 55+ year old women or being dead which is why 21% of 65+ year men are single but 49% of 65+ year women are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:43 AM
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Don't fall into his commenting trap. His stats clearly show that the number of single men and single women are exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:38 AM
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I'm actually surprised it's not more. If sampled equally, there would be a same amount of 18-23 as 24-29. Is it that absurd that 24-29 year olds would be dating 30-35 year olds?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:28 AM
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They're obviously dating someone older then? The data also says 31% of both men and women are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:22 AM
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Men outearn women at every percentile of the salary distribution. As a man anywhere below the top 15% of male earners, there will be at least 10% more women than men in the population who earn less than you. Above the top 15% that the population difference becomes smaller as there are a lot more men that will earn less than you anyway but the top 5% of women still earn less than the top 12% of men. https://dqydj.com/2018-income-by-sex/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 08:35 AM
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I think I was being conservative earlier though. I think maybe you did not like the conclusion your estimates led to but that's okay. Maybe 75% of men find roughly 50–80% of women attractive. If 50-80% of the women are attractive to what you claim is the "overwhelming majority of men". Then it is definitely wrong the only the elite men will have options that are attractive to the overwhelming majority of men. Statistically 75% of these men will encounter at least 1 woman that is attractive to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 09:50 PM
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Dems are neoliberals with LGBTQ, anti-gun, pro-abortion characteristics. Repubs are neoliberals with gun-jesus and anti-abortion characteristics. Both sides seek to drawn in women but the Dems favor the girlboss a bit more but the Repubs are do as well albeit less vocally. Both sides are fiscally conservative towards things they disagree with and dovish on things they agree with but the overlap is pretty big. It's just a big cultural war really.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:28 PM
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Interesting. So if 75% of the men only find 39-60% of the women attractive. 15-36% of men are going to need to adjust their expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 03:44 PM
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I have seen many many women diss and shit on men with impunity in public settings though. I have never seen this. I've seen men make fun of overweight women in the sport setting and the dining setting though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 09:42 AM
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Bottom of the barrel men like short bald old unemployed drug addict criminals do get laid and/or long term relationships with women too so the bar for just sex with the opposite sex is pretty low.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 09:28 AM
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People will just pair up to their qualitymatch and these online personalities aren't really high quality so I don't see what the issue is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:36 AM
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I think the we men tend to view thor and loki quite different from women. We think thor would be more attractive because he is what we men think is a more dominant physical type. However, loki is much more sophisticated and his personality is also more complex from the writing perspective. Thor was never written as a primary hero so his personality is kind of a one dimensional good guy (from the marvel movies not the whole marvelverse). Loki was written as a primary villain that eventually becam…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 03:06 AM
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Then the next question is what proportion of all adult women would the overwhelming majority of men find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:29 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:06 PM
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Cuz u r technically not raising ur kids the way u want Are you sure that it's not the way they want? they will eventually have less emotional connection with you Considering that they're going to be kicked out in 18 years I really wonder what's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:59 PM
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It is what it is and bitching isn't going to solve that problem. I guess this is the answer to men with women issues as well. Just work harder to make life good. Bitching on PPD isn't going to solve that problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:55 PM
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Men do better because we make choices that net us better pay Is this what you tell poor people? Just make choices that net you better pay. Why choose to be poor? Choose to earn more! Poverty solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:47 PM
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Well, you can bring your sources and we can both have a look.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 12:39 PM
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The studies you have seen were looking at those that didn't have sex in the preceding year. Not virgins. Possibly also a non-anglophonic country.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 12:29 PM
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I find that hard to believe. I see plenty of bottom barrel men with women and kids. Fat short old balding drug addicted unemployed criminals with their valuematch who would stick with them through thick and thin. Fair enough, not all men. Just the men complaining about it. Only a small proportion of men are desperate but desperation lowers value so they would have to readjust their expectations the more desperate they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 06:10 AM
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Yes they do. I've had discussion with men and women about this. What men think are "average" women aren't average women because they've been bombarded by social media and marketing with a certain expectation of women which by no way represents the typical woman. Unfortunately men are still doing the pursuing so if women don't get their valuematch of course the only option is to stay single rather than settle for someone below their value. And yes I literally don't have any standards, doesn't mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:34 AM
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What is your definition of overwhelming majority? 60% or 90%? What's the issue though as long as men have options within their league?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:18 AM
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Are you sure you've gone well below your list in terms of looks personality and career? It seems like there is something in there that is pulling you down or your expectations are too high. In 2022 the average value woman absolutely do want a man who has a similar value as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:28 AM
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False again. The amount of men with literally zero options, let alone options in their league is not growing. Men are not approaching or searching within their league then. There's plenty of single women who would happily date a man within their league. Have you tried searching and dating within your league with regards to career, looks and personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:12 AM
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What we are saying is that men do have options in their league even if they are not "universally attractive". Should it be any other way? You are trying to shift the goalposts to "universal attractiveness" or "hot attractive woman" for no meaningful reason. Is the issue here then that some men aren't finding women within their league attractive? If yes, then you've hit the nail on the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:07 AM
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So what is the issue with men having options within their league?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:50 AM
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I think you're the one splitting hairs on the definition of desirable. I'm arguing that it's broader than you think. 6s to 8s can be considered attractive as well unless you're saying that 5 or 6 level men do not consider 6s attractive? If your argument is that elite men have options ranging from 6-10. That is pretty much a given but what really matters is that guys have a bunch of options are their look level.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:25 AM
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getting chased by desirable women all the time That's a weirdly narrow definition of "having options". The person you replied to said he had options that were desirable to him. I will also add that I'm a random average guy who had options that were desirable to me lookswise. I'm married but I was also picky with regards to personality and career.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:12 AM
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But you said Only elite men have a bunch of desirable options
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:06 AM
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Less than 5% of adults between the age of 25-29 are still virgins though. Even less as they get older (0.3% by age 44). In another study 5% of males and 3% of females between the ages of 25 and 29 never having had vaginal sex. The proportion of sexually inexperienced participants also drops as they get older and between 1% and 2% of both males and females never had vaginal sex even into their early 40s. The disparity is roughly 1-2% of each age group so you can add that to the numbers. I'm not s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:44 PM
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I'm a man and I do this. At work sometimes I have no choice but outside of work I absolutely avoid, like physically step away kind of avoid if it looks like our personal spaces are going to merge. But to be fair, I'm married and happy with the friends I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:27 PM
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Sometimes it's just a city thing. I'm a married man and I hate small talk and I hate being approached for sales or donations so I believe I give that vibe out to any stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:25 PM
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Agree. Less potential for drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:21 PM
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They're a relative minority though. Less than 10% of male adults are 5'5 in the USA. https://dqydj.com/height-percentile-calculator-for-men-and-women/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:26 PM
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It's funny how they don't question it at all when the article suits their agenda but when it doesn't, suddenly all the flaws of the study start getting posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:20 PM
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The average women in their 20’s will say they want a 6 foot guy What proportion of average women actually really have this as a "requirement" though?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 09:19 AM
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Depends on where you were getting your responses really. If it was here, I think most dude commenters here are very caught up in their own bubble of self-pity, bitterness as well as rationalising that bubble. Their comments aren't really relevant or reflective of the experiences normal people have. Even if they came to an acceptable consensus on your rating, o doubt it would reflect what you'd get among a group of normal people with normal experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:52 PM
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What standards/requirements do you think are present in fewer men than there are women in relationships. And also, what proportion of women do you think hold these standards/requirements?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:46 PM
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Yup. Most people with one or two physical "flaws" have no problem if they make up for it in other areas. The more flaws you have the more you have to work on the stuff you can change like personality and build. The good news is less than 5% of male adults are below 5'4 and even fewer are going to be going bald before their 30s. To get a trifecta of other stuff makes it even more rare but if you happen to be the unfortunate 1-2% that have multiple physical flaws, you best work hard on the other s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 02:55 PM
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You have no idea how much money is being spent on research in hair-loss preventatives/treatment. Rich men also go bald and they don't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 02:41 PM
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Ever since I was a boy stellar nebula I dreamed of slamming hydrogen isotopes into each other to make helium & light and send it throught the galaxy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 02:35 PM
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Never said it was incorrect, just misleading and goalposting. Of course you're right, it is just choice right? Poor people choosing to be poor and married men making the great financial decision to not carry the child and the woman choosing to get pregnant instead. Struggling financially? Just choose to get paid more bro. Population distribution is all you need to look at if you want to compare the holistic outcome of income disparity between men and women because it looks the entire income scal…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 02:31 AM
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As a guy, I only initiate text to organize dates. Granted this includes semi-related discussions gauging potential date activities. I find being forced to reply constantly a bit of a drag so I guess women find similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 11:36 PM
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This is just your claim and it also doesn't account for the entry, opportunity and distribution into said jobs/hours. What matters is the outcome which is where you'll fall along the population income distribution if you're a man or a woman. As a man, you're pretty much always going to earn more than the woman even the highest earning woman earns significantly less than the highest earning man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:36 AM
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Misleading goalpost shifting nonsense. The original comment didn't mention young men Vs young women or hourly wage. I didn't just talk about the "average". Along almost the entire salary distribution, men always "make more" than women - which is what the statement was.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:04 PM
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I don't think it's a city thing, probably an extended social circle thing that's influenced by your friends-friends more than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:24 PM
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They'll just raise the retirement age until people feel compelled to procreate for their aged security like they did in the past. If that doesn't work and the government feels threatened that the country is falling apart. They'll force people to pair up by a certain age if not be subject to algorithm based sorting to produce the best soldier/labourer/taxpayer/breeder for the state and enforce a mandatory number of children by a certain age. If people refuse, there's always semen extraction/banki…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:16 PM
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Oh yea, thanks but no thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:00 PM
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Huh? I don't have worry about anything related to pregnancies, no menstruation, no worries about my body hair and I can cut my hair myself. Men are also faster, taller and stronger so I last longer when hiking, climbing or kayaking long distances/durations. Men's metabolism is higher (due to increased muscle mass) so we can enjoy more food. I won't say that being a man is better in all aspects. Of course that is not true but having a lower maintenance/drama body edges it out for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:19 PM
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Why is it so awkward to just say hi and introduce yourself? You never know till you try. I'd like to see someone get arrested for saying "Hi, I am lordbongius, how are you doing?". Expecting everyone to respond positively to a cold approach especially when you're doing it for the first few times is a bit odd. Why don't you make it a goal to make friends with at least one woman you're not sexually attracted to via the cold approach. Just treat her like a person and see where that gets you. There …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:30 PM
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You're right that its not even close. In almost every percentile among multiple demographics, males out earn females. Not even close. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2112.05822 https://dqydj.com/2018-income-by-sex/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:21 PM
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Thats not hypocritical either. It is just different desires or sometimes wishful thinking. Hypocrisy isn't the action of desiring things different to yourself. If your rule is "benefit" or "compromise" then in every relationship with a point of difference and one other party seemingly benefits more from the arrangement then that person is always going to be the hypocrite. Not to mention if the judgement of hypocrisy is always dependent on "benefit" and "compromise" who is going to determine whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:44 AM
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So many of these posts/comments/threads are just a hydra of strawmen or motte and bailey arguments. Address one argument and they'll just slide the goal posts a little bit or create another slightly related strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:26 AM
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I've seen a few circumcized ones in my time. Bro, whether this helps or not there is nothing to be ashamed of. I'm pretty sure nobody above the age of 18 would even be remotely curious on why it was circumcized.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:42 AM
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So if there isn't stigma for cheating with or without labels. What is the point of labels?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:26 AM
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I guess I can't be fucked going through the extra steps just to hide my junk from other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:26 AM
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i'm 40 and the only men who have ever seen my penis are physicians and presumably my father. You've never used a shower in the gym, theme park, pool, beach? You've never went camping, hiking, kayaking or cycling overnight with your buddies and had to shower in an outdoor body of water? Literally 70% of the time I shower outside of my home and work, there would be multiple naked men in the ante area before the shower cubicles. The alternative would be to cover up with a towel like a skirt and cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:22 AM
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So is there stigma for cheating with labels or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:57 AM
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Why is it hypocritical to want something that is different from yourself? Is it hypocritical when a person with a great career but wants a partner to not have a career? Is it hypocritical when a fit person wants a partner that is not fit? Is it hypocritical that a lawyer doesn't want to their partner to be a lawyer?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:09 AM
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Religion is worse than the government. At least I have some semblance of choice when it comes to voting. With religion it's just a arbitrary decisions of a few religious leaders cherry picking their rationale from text.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:40 AM
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Isn't it a common claim on this sub that there is no stigma for cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:39 AM
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They asked for "plummeted" not "disappeared".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:37 AM
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Most men don't ever end up even getting married or having kids This is false. The majority of men are either married or have married before (just above a third of men have never been married) https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/families/marital.html
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:11 PM
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It wouldn't even work because it's based on the faulty premise that it happens commonly anyway. If that were true, then it makes no difference because it's another common argument that apparently many women are getting away with being unfaithful anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:04 PM
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Why do you put up with such people in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:59 PM
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That is why the media is manufacturing consent for a war with Russia and China. Men are just going to be used to fuel the profits of the military-industrial complex and people are buying right into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 09:51 AM
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Not really, the analogy is flawed from the start - employers need labour which gives employees bargaining power, women do not "need" men (many do not even like them very much as a group). So its the other way around then if men need women more than women need men? Employers saying "we cannot find staff because nobody wants to work" is the same as some men saying "we cannot find girlfriends because girls don't like nice guys"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 09:43 AM
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Similar height to you, went from 170 (bit fatter than skinny fat) to 140 pounds lean and toned through rock climbing. About two years recreational and two years intense competitive level training. I was not intending to lose weight but to get functionally strong. I'm not sure how the factors worked together but I became a lot more confident, started becoming more outgoing (which compounds the benefits), was able to get numbers from clubs and cold approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:48 AM
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There are a lot more people who are married and dating than "rich bros". You automatically lose if you don't try so might as well give yourself the best shot if you really want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:29 AM
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Eventually you learn not to pay the cost of a self-esteem hit or the first date. Self-esteem is yours to control, it's not realistic to expect most women to be interested in a relationship with you and paying for the first date switches your frame to that of a bidder rather than equals. You never know the odds until you try every avenue and you can always change the odds by adjusting your expectations according to your preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:24 AM
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I think every guy thinks keeping your mouth shut matters. You just don't wanna say it. I think you've internalised some sad shit from your 20 years of marriage. It's 2020. I feel sorry for you that your husband can't stand what you have to say. There's a difference between constantly nagging (I'm sure women don't like naggy guys too) and having your opinions and input. Would you really have married down in looks? Yes but not much lower because I know what I can pull. I would have adjusted my exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:30 PM
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Why does your husband thinks keeping your mouth shut matters? Being low maintenance is a personality trait as well. I couldn't date a girl who didn't have an opinion on important things and at least a thing or two she could teach me. Its also extremely important that we have the same financial goals/habits and earning potential as well. Won't say I've been with high 8s or 9s because I'm not even a high 7 but I've dated above where I rate myself. Shitty personalities are all over the spectrum but…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:08 PM
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You said you have no problem making friends with girls so game should work for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:41 PM
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So a motte and bailey argument where you respond with "I have no problem meeting friends" to good advice about meeting friends and "I cannot even find good hobbies/women always avoid talking to guys" to good advice about improving your interactions with women? Regardless, you're going to have to decide if you prefer to maintain your expectations or if you prefer to get laid/get a girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:41 PM
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Yup. Seems like it. I know a couple of meet up organizers and I'm part of a couple of social groups. It's really obvious when a guy with less developed social skills is only there to get their dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 09:56 AM
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I wrote these responses about hobbies as a reply your first comment. Kinda hard to find depending on your interest. Also women seem to complain about dudes trying to talk to them so hobbies probably aren't gonna help you This above and your second reply about difficulty in finding hobbies doesn't sound like a "can make friends but they're not attracted to you." are two different issues. What are we talking about now? Dudes meeting women at hobbies or you getting your female acquaintances interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 09:46 AM
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Yup. Hasn't been an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:49 AM
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Bit mixed for me. Friends only escalate to long term relationships but I would not consider FWBs or anything like that because of the overlap in friends and career. For new contacts outside of my social group, window was about up to 3 months for me. She or I would have decided where the other person would be by then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:56 AM
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Dating within your social circle =/= trying to date a person you've known as a friend for awhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:49 AM
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Him not taking your rejection well is his problem and a separate problem. The issues are somewhat related but not part of the same problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:35 AM
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Yea context is key. At another city I lived in the airport was roughly 1+ hour return and most of the time at weird hours but a bunch of friends would always be available to give a lift. It's mainly because we traveled frequently, didn't live to far away and you could ask for that favour from anyone in the group as long as you were in the "pool" to provide the favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:34 AM
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By who?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:29 AM
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Excluded myself from what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:27 AM
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I have absolutely done favours for girls and women I am not sexually interested in and they have done so for me as well. Asking you out isn't exactly a uniform sign of wanting to get into your pants as well. It's 100% possible to have a close platonic with the other sex. He did mention that in the end so I'm not referring to this situation specifically but if you don't want to spend time with him alone even as friends then you probably shoudnt accept any favours.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:27 AM
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OP was talking about examples of society crapping on men. That stuff doesn't happen in normieland. You could find more examples of the family court discriminating against income rather than discriminating against men. Adultery is considered an at-fault divorce in court. How would a court enforce maternity fraud anyway. I'll give you that there may be something there though. Metoo is about sexual abuse and assault. Something that affects men as well. I haven't encountered anything crapping on men…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:20 AM
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Huh? That article just shows how girls are outperforming boys. Not how normieland is constantly criticizing men or boys. I'm no longer in the school system so maybe there is something there but outside of it, I don't feel criticized at all. The only place I encounter it is from a couple of my radtivists family relations on Facebook and some rants from individual colleagues that's about it. I haven't seen an ad or a movie or a campaign about criticizing men (unless you count saying it's okay for …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:58 AM
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Again alot of the more female dominated hobbies just bore me to death. Is this you saying no to yourself? Are you happy enough with your current situation that you prefer not to try? You don't really need a female dominated hobby. Rock climbing is a great one that I'm into. Pottery and scuba is pretty fun. Volunteering at the animal shelter/rescue or a pet club is another good example. Also even when you aren't one of those weridos women are kinda avoidant of men unless you are a cute dude. Not …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:46 PM
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Seems a bit premature to tar a bunch of people as a "certain type you don't like" just from them going to a school. Have you tried just hanging out and see where that gets you? Outside of school you can just take part in these social clubs. Look for it online or on facebook, find a hobby you enjoy and look for mixed group meet ups. At the same time, don't be afraid to talk to random people but without thinking of having sex with them. If you are starting from absolute scratch, try to form one pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:24 PM
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There are many of these clubs at school. If not, pick it up outside, practice, get competent at it and start it up at your school. Many of those things mentioned don't cost a cent. I picked up rock climbing at school, got competent and joined the crew at the gym as retail staff and instructor. The pay was great and I got free climbs. Bringing someone climbing is also a great date idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:14 PM
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Don't go there with the aim to just get your dick wet. That sort of desperation is even transparent to a guy, much less women who would sense that for a mile away. At least take some interest in the hobby and let the social interactions flow naturally. I.e don't avoid women, wait for opportunities instead of trying to force opportunities, get good at the hobby because most people there are actually interested in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:10 PM
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Women are a lot more independent now and the pressure (both internal and external) to find a partner is less. Several strong factors that made marriage more desirable in the past such as security, provision, having a kid, religion, social pressure ar now almost gone for many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:05 PM
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If it's easy to organize a date or multiple dates, I'd say there is some level of interest. That's been the biggest indicator for me. They're never too busy for you, they'll drop other things or suggest alternate dates/times if they can't drop stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:58 PM
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From my experience, most intelligent, secure women with adequate self-esteem will not hesitate to disagree with anybody if it's something that she is not on-the-fence about. If it's something of a grey area they might let it slide. But also don't confuse that with a response for when she actually agrees with you but might be going with the somewhat socially acceptable response if she doesn't know you too well (i.e she feels maybe it's a trap or a test). You'd be surprised how many intelligent wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:52 PM
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Makes complete sense and no one can blame you. I was lucky to have my lesson early in life before marriage could be considered by any one seriously. I guess it's better than being stuck in a shitty marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:51 AM
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I've lived in a few countries and many different towns/cities. You weed out the toxic ones at the first date by splitting the bill and not going for sex on the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:48 AM
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I don't want a lot of men to have sex with a lot of women, I recognise that for a man being sexually successful shows that he is a winner So you're according respect to something you do not want. If you do not want men to have sex with lots of women, do not accord respect to men that have sex with lots of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:26 AM
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Big red flag. One of my earliest ex's literally thought relationships was supposed to be like a Disney movie. I hope she grew out of it but it was a very good lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:15 AM
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if the entire dating market is full of dead beat women From my experience, this isn't the case. Truly toxic and unbalanced women do exist but they are really only a small proportion of the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:11 AM
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A few months ago, girl turned me down, no problem. She sees me talking to other girls, she gets butthurt. She's still butthurt as of yesterday, trying to orbit me, flirt with me, etc. Ignore her, and she chases me after rejecting me. Just pure nonsense. This sounds like a want for attention rather than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:01 AM
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You'd expect a person of average intelligence to see the signs after the first one or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:57 AM
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The nuance here is how you are expressing love and affection. Being clingy, possessive, excessively emotional and insecure is extremely off-putting. I'm saying this as a guy. The whole Hollywood over-passionate-dramatic-fairytale is not particularly normal. Would you marry a girl who behaved that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:55 AM
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I mean I kind of see the point as a guy. I never pursue sex on the first date because I need more time to judge whether they are the never see again, friends only, booty call or long term relationship type ladies. I don't bother finding out more about booty call ladies and go straight for it because I'm not emotionally invested and there is no future with her anyway. Long term types I take longer to understand and get to know before making any physical connection. Also, take it slower because I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:32 PM
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I've got a job and a gf and I'm not a c*ping boome Wow, big success for being 16 years old. Glad it's all working out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:14 PM
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You're just one of the random billion nobodies on the internet and I don't care whether you choose to find value in facts or not. This mindset of yours must be why you must be doing so well in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:21 PM
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If you don't start having sex until 35 That's a different stat though. This paper describes sexual inactivity "in the past year". The people who have started having sex is going to be a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:11 AM
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When a debate with a comprehensive focus reaches lingual and personal differences/ambiguity, it ends. You emphasized on the word seems and then you're now fixating on my words when I not initiated any lingual disagreements before that. I emphasized "survival" because it is a statistical concept. If this is an effort to end the debate fair enough. Yeah that's why they pumped out babies during economicly harsh periods in the new civilization timespan. Precisely my point. Quality of life goes up - …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:38 AM
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Obviously you're not the only person in the world. You'll be 30+ someday but feel free to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:32 AM
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I wasn't trying to prove that at all and straight up said generally for low income groups economical ambiguity SEEMS to be less of a factor. You were the one to push the deciding window idea that doesn't change anything about what I said. You have never used the word seem or anything similar to it on this point before, not sure why you're trying to walk it back now. I was probably confused by what you're saying because households of higher income are going to have less economic ambiguity than ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:28 PM
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Your own data You didnt quote data, you quoted a phrase out of nowhere. "The data is wrong if you consider people who came of age in 2008!". Where did you get this from? We only care about dating trends for people in their 20s, I don't give a fuck about pseudo-boomers that aged out Who are you speaking for? We do care about dating trends for everyone and the oldest millennials is like 40 now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:37 PM
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What is your threshold for upper-middle-class?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:42 PM
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Yea, a 100k male is like top 18% but a 100k woman is like top 8% https://dqydj.com/2018-income-by-sex/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:39 PM
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but the thing is at every age group a man is more likely to out earn the woman than not and they will meet more women who earn less than them than the other way around. Just very roughly (by people tracked in the data), the 80th percentile man will out earn 90 percent of women (in the dataset higher percentile = higher income), the 60th percentile man will out earn 75 percent of women, the 40th percentile man will out earn 55 percent of women and the 20th percentile man will out earn 30 percent …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:37 PM
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You haven't proven that the few years before deciding to have kids is a stronger influence on their decision than the 12-16 years since birth. If this was the case, there wouldn't a ton of studies talking about the decline in social mobility. Low income groups can just not have kids and they'll magically have higher incomes regardless of the quality of life they grew up in. No matter who you are your coded main self-actualization method is this: That's why people are drawn to it mainly - that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 07:59 AM
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It seems to me that only ones getting relatively affected negatively are men here and that women do what what they did the same amount - but with partialy different people. I'm not sure if you looked at the data but you can't just select quotes straight from the article and assume that it tells you the whole picture. It is definitely not true that the "only ones getting relatively affected negatively are men" Looking at the data, you could also replace some of the negative statements with women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 07:38 AM
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Those countries have better quality of life indicators and in most cases also a higher reported happiness level. Norway, Australia, Netherlands, Austria and Luxembourg are other countries that come to mind. The stats clearly show at quite high resolution (10 income groups) that lower income households have higher fertility rates compared to high income households. The relationship between quality of life conditions and future income is also very very strong (unless your argument is saying that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:47 AM
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Huh? What are you quoting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:03 AM
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Comparing how human's fertility rates respond to different conditions is not comparing oranges to dildos. We are comparing fertility rates of humans right? No matter how you try and twist it, the quality of life conditions that influence people's household earning power start from the day they are born. Way earlier than before they even know how to think how having kids will influence their lifestyle and earning power. I don't disagree that the welfare and retirement system is dependent on havin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:43 PM
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So it's not like increasing people's income and quality of life will increase fertility rates then as they'd be more willing to use contraception and be more likely to afford it. Anyway, the problem is that big to the powers that be, then wouldn't the solution be more easily solved by raising the prices of contraception or making it available by application only.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:06 AM
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Declining fertility rates is not only an issue in the "West", its an issue for all developed or soon-to-be developed countries. Having kids is a neutral decision now to households and is a lot less essential compared to the past. I view this development as a good thing for households. Child mortality is down and so is the need for manual or subsistence level type labor. At the macro level, the taxpayer/aged-welfare system has always been a ponzi and its only breaking down in the last 30 years as…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:43 AM
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/241530/birth-rate-by-family-income-in-the-us/ Why does fertility rate increase as household income drops then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:33 AM
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On the contrary, a lower fertility rate is more likely a predictor of a better quality of life than not. Compare the USA's fertility rate to Norway, Finland, Belgium, Switzerland and most other countries with stronger welfare systems. Further compare this to countries with much higher proportions of subsistence level industries. https://www.statista.com/statistics/241530/birth-rate-by-family-income-in-the-us/ Look at how fertility rate increases with declining income. Children are no longer nece…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:22 AM
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Contrary to clickbait media. Most people who spend a long time in a certain place tend to start enjoying and celebrating the same things that are enjoyed and celebrated in that place. Trying to maintain non-local traditions over multiple generations is just a losing uphill battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:12 AM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC7293001/ Here is the paper from where your chart came from. Proportion of men between 18-24 who did not have any sexual activity in the past year in years 16/18 have not even doubled since 00/02. Why are you only comparing it with the lowest point? Proportion of men 35-44 in 16/18 who did not have any sexual activity in the past year has stayed roughly the same and is below 10% Proportion of women between 18-24 who did not have any sexual activit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:23 AM
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That's actually good advice to sexless dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 10:33 PM
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Less than 5% of adults between the age of 25-29 are still virgins though. Even less as they get older. Even assuming all of these are men and the reasons are involuntary (they are not). That's not really a significant portion of men. Also, it isn't really the most important social and emotional bond. Familial bonds are most important and friendship is equal with a committed sexual relationship (overcommitting to either isn't healthy) and further more, not every committed relationship/partnership…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:16 PM
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For all of its difficulties, online at least has some success stories Pretty sure offline at least has some success stories as well. it's the top way couples meet now Only because the other ways are split into so many different categories. More people meet offline compared to online https://goat.com.au/relationships/this-graph-showing-how-couples-meet-is-a-reflection-of-how-wild-the-modern-dating-world-is/ The majority of people online have never used a dating site or app. Less than 6% of adults…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:08 AM
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They're talking about the process of attraction ("attracting") so they were talking about all aspects of attractiveness that led to the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 11:54 AM
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Niceness is one aspect of attractiveness. Attractiveness is one aspect of niceness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 11:49 AM
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Yup same. Our income is evenly split. Chores are split very evenly. I do the mowing, yard and trash because she has less stamina and doesn't like icky things but she does the laundry because I have no idea which of our clothes will be wrecked by the dryer (she picks most of my clothes too). share political views, we share lots of interests and hobbies so we enjoy doing them together, we are both introverts so also get alone time if needed, we share financial values (we’re pretty frugal), and we …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:17 AM
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Genuinely intelligent people are intelligent enough to know that the likelihood of a successful relationship is less friction not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 12:22 AM
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Yea I'm not referring to sampling affecting the quality of males. Just the success rates and competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 12:19 AM
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That's not the only thing though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 11:19 AM
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The average male is also 36 years old in the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:54 AM
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Is "successful STEM graduate" supposed to confer some advantage in mate selection?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:46 AM
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We know that more men than women are on OLD This is just another sort of population sampling problem. When the populations are unevenly sampled in OLD. We can circumvent this by meeting people offline and outside in areas where there is no uneven sampling bias (or better yet, do it in areas where the sampling bias favours you).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:43 AM
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That kind of short term thinking never makes for good long term relationship material anyway. Dodged a bullet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:38 AM
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Why not use a blow-up doll or a fleshlight if you don't want to interact with the person you're having sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:02 AM
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Also nobody asks if you rent, mortgaged, own, or inherited the house until quite late in the relationship. How you're living in the property is more important than having the keys and by the time that is known, other stuff would have had a much bigger role to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 01:35 PM
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My friend is my age (early 40's) and got into a two story house and a decent new car To be fair I don't think this is a big deal unless this is smack dab in close proximity to the CBD of the Bay area, New York or some key capital cities in other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 08:25 AM
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