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In other words, Blue Pillers are mostly spoiled brats with no conception of the world outside their little bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 12:04 AM
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you're doing it in this very response. you're expecting people to have looked into or have knowledge of academic studies about sex work and/or read articles about the subject, neither of which are necessarily common knowledge. i don't know why anyone would look into those academic studies unless they had a very specific purpose, and i haven't seen a news article about the subject in a long time (granted, i don't read the news that often). edit: perhaps i should have worded this differently initi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 12:02 AM
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Can you please quote where I requested any kind of sources, let alone a "collection of studies"? I don't think I implied any such thing, and I definitely didn't say that. I'm pointing out that the phenomenon we're discussing (women using sexuality for power/money) is so ubiquitous in Western society (and, really, global society), that it beggars belief that these BPers are in denial it exists. These BPers have never cracked open a newspaper and read about, say, a prostitution/escort service bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:33 PM
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That reminds me of this classic photo: http://imgace.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/women-are-not-for-decoration.jpg I agree with you, but I don't think the dichotomy is between attractive/unattractive women. I'll break ranks with my fellow RPers and say that I've known a number of attractive feminists and BP-leaning thinkers (physically attractive at least, personality-wise is a separate question). I think it's a cultural divide. If you're an upper-income White female who grew up with a feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:23 PM
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Your reply still seems off-topic. The question the OP posed is: why do Blue Pillers deny that some women use their sexuality as a source of power? Your reply is, effectively, "Yes, some women do use their sexuality as a source of power". That's a non sequitur. The question is why we see so many adamant denials from BPers that such a phenomenon exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:13 PM
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'i don't know many women who use their sexuality that way, so i'm not sure that it's a great percentage that do.' Are these people familiar with the miracle of modern mass communications? Television? Books? Periodicals? The internet? Academic studies? I don't get why its presumed that one must personally know a person who fits this description in order to answer in the affirmative. To my knowledge, I don't know anyone who knows how to SCUBA dive. It would be absolutely ludicrous if I said "Welp,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:05 PM
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Is the OP really "butthurt" about hot women using their hotness? I read his post as a complaint about the fact that Blue Pillers frequently deny that this exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:48 PM
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You think people caring about other people sucks?? Depends on what that "caring" looks like. I used to consider myself a pretty hardcore lefty. I don't anymore, but I'm still involved in some "social justice" initiatives (mainly connecting indigent people with pro bono legal counsel). I think the SJW label is completely relevant. More and more, I see an emerging demographic of white females, most of whom seem to come from the upper/middle classes (a LOT of them are in academia), who are absurdly…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 01:57 AM
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Lol because if there's one thing I've experienced in NYC it's selflessness and treating women on the street like princesses. That's why there was that video filmed in NYC a while back filled with people saying nice things to women! I also live in NYC and you're beyond deluded if you think walking down 125th St in Harlem is representative of inter-gender interaction in the city in general. Go spend time in a Midtown office building or in a Downtown bar and then come back and tell us what those in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 01:34 AM
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Can you provide some examples of what you mean? What kind of female dominated spaces?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 10:50 PM
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Mikki Kendall. But she is in "dissent at the moment" too. If you're including cultural figures and not just writers (I'm sure a lot of people would include Lena Dunham in a list of most prominent Third Wavers, and the author of this article includes Tina Fey), you could say Mindy Kaling. You're right though, there's not much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 10:48 PM
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1927 is pre-Second Wave. Female factory workers and the like were not a prominent part of the Second Wave movement, which is/was based in academia, like they were in the First Wave. I agree that androgyny is one important aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 10:44 PM
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You sure about the "middle class" part? How do you define that? Looking back at the Second Wave, I think I'd say "upper class".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 10:14 PM
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Modern scientific study published in peer reviewed journal with numerous citations. Multiple studies will increase the intensity of my belief. If two studies contradict, I will side with the more recent study or the larger study, depending on which difference is greatest. I will make no restrictions on the methodology used. TRP focuses on female desire and attraction, which is inherently subjective. How do you measure that? Asking people to fill out surveys? How do you guarantee people will be t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 08:23 PM
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It's also completely different from what TRP describes. BDSM is purely sexual. TRP advocates dominance in sex and emotional aspects of the relationship. You can't conflate the two. BDSM is what people make of it. The fact that there are individuals who seek to standardize it, homogenize it, and remove anything remotely non-PC means nothing. There are plenty of women out there who get off on both sexual and emotional/psychological domination. Heck, there are women who get off on emotional/psychol…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 08:07 PM
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Some women do aspire to be dominated outside of the bedroom, outside of the home. A big aspect of '50 Shades' is the way their contract allows him to dictate her clothing choices, and other non-sexual aspects of her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 07:57 PM
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See my post above regarding places where you can check out the "real events" version in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 03:20 AM
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??? The point was that women went ga-ga over him in huge number. He caught their fancy. It was this book, with a guy in his mid-twenties, who caught on fire in women's imaginations. You seem to be under the impression that TRP says older men are always > younger men, which is not the case. I'd look at something like this SMV graph: https://makeshiftalpha.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/sexualvalue.gif I don't agree with it completely, but it's closer to the TRP standard. The average male has a very …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 03:12 AM
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I know plenty of men who are genuinely nice and don't get laid. I'd say extroversion and sociability is a much bigger factor than niceness. A hardcore overtly misogynist extrovert will get laid a lot more often than a genuinely nice, feminist introvert.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 02:54 AM
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But not a word of analysis from trp on the fact he's only 26. With her being 22, that's only 4 years difference - they're practically the same age. I don't see how this contradicts anything TRP says. Most of the "SMV graphs" you'll find out there show men's value going up considerably between the ages of 25 and 30. It's around this time that many men will find their SMV surpassing that of the women their age. Notably, he's not 18 or 19, whereas many male fantasies involve women that young. And y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 02:45 AM
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Even the BDSM community largely condemns it for being about an abusive relationship instead of one based on trust and respect. You know, like a realistic BDSM relationship. There are people who get off on disrespect and a lack of trust (as in, feelings of uncertainty, genuine vulnerability). The moment you start negotiating terms beforehand and going over what's going to happen, you kill that element of danger that so many people find enthralling. The BDSM "community" has taken something that wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 02:33 AM
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I wouldn't use porn as a weapon against men and their sexuality. And neither would you. Feminists do this non-stop. Ever heard of Gail Dines?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 02:25 AM
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No, that's the fantasy part, although he does probably fuck her. 50 Shades = Your typical TRP field report hook-up (hypergamous young college-aged woman falls for an Alpha with a higher SMV than her) except it ends in romance instead of her being nexted. And this has resonated enormously in our popular culture, especially with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 02:24 AM
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eta: bland women entering relationships with wildly successful dominant guys are common events? I'm assuming I'm missing something since I haven't read the book, but I don't follow Replace "26 year old CEO" with "26 year old I-Banker making half a million" and that scenario plays out any given Friday or Saturday night at any number of bars/clubs in Midtown Manhattan and the Westside of LA. Girls fresh out of college out to bag their Alpha for the night, ridin' that CC.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 01:58 AM
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The novel reads like a caricature of a RP field report. The Alpha, the Hypergamous Girl, the Beta Orbiter. And an overwhelmingly-female audience made it one of the best selling books of all time. In my eyes, that shows the strength of RP ideas. I don't agree with every nuance of what TRP says, but the central tenet: that women love dominant men, is absolutely true, and absolutely denied by feminists/Blue Pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 01:31 AM
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Marriage isn't inclusive of all ages. I don't think marriage was ever limited to people of a certain educational level, at least not in the West. The prohibition on interracial marriage (in the US) had a lot more to do with the racial subordination of Blacks to Whites than it did with defining marriage. Gay marriage involves redefining "marriage" in a way that expanding civil rights (access to the legal institution of marriage) did not. If anything, I think it's notable that people across practi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 11:56 AM
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Likewise, somebody who is secure in themselves is not going to ask for life advice from strangers on the internet, and somebody who is truly looking for advice about how to contend with reality in the context of sex and relationships is going to independently read peer-reviewed, experimental (or quasi-experimental) scientific research on sex and relationships instead of reading third-hand blog reporting with a clear agenda, or cherry-picked anecdotes and /r/relationships posts attended to throug…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 08:14 AM
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Except that I didn't do that the patriarchical way like "boo hoo that is wimmens job, below my dignity", it was more like "Um, you know I have a weak stomach?" "Yeah, fine." way. LOL. What about just saying "No, you should do it." to your wife? I sort of coasted through my twenties with having a GF for 3 months then not having for 2 years types of setups, it was not too good but I did not really want to invest into turning myself into a movie star. OK not much sex, neither of us is interested in…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 09:13 AM
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All this sounds (to me anyway) a lot like people who believe in the stereotypical, overtly sexual, short-skirted, "party girl" image of a slut which, in my experience, is not how many women who've "been around the block" tend to act or look. My personal experience: the really exceptionally high partner count women I've known have all been kinda tomboyish. Not in the physical sense or even in terms of dress, but in terms of being a "just one of the guys", "doesn't get along with other girls" type…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 08:50 AM
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All you've really told us is that these people are not RP and they're Betas. That probably describes 50%+ of males in the Western world, depending on your definition of Beta, so you haven't really given us much to go on. They all seem to have happy relationships. RP theory doesn't say that you have to be RP to be happy or have a happy relationship (in fact, RP might say not to have a relationship at all). In fact, it started off as a resource for men who were unhappy about their sexual/romantic …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 08:39 AM
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What's stupid is, at the age of 18, saying "I never need to worry about my future because I'm going to make loads of money and have my pick of supermodels when I'm old." That's a huge bet to take, and in the process this guy could be turning down perfectly viable options because he falsely believes this magical future is his destiny. Most RP readers aren't 18 year olds wildly speculating about the future. I'd say, anecdotally, the average reader is probably in his mid 20s. By then, one typically…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 07:15 AM
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6% of the US population? Are you sure it isn't the US labor force? Only about 60-65% of the US population is in the labor force. So your statistics are flawed if you're comparing it to the US population as a whole, as that figure includes about 100 million individuals who have an income of 0. Even if you limit yourself to the US labor force, and not the population as a whole, you're still including: *Tens of millions of low-skilled immigrants who came to the US from developing nations *Tens of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 07:11 AM
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Why are people who have life goals that "fall in line" with someone else's life goals pointless company or boring? To fall in line simply means to be in accord with. Two people can arrive at the same life goals independently, and have the same passion for them, and yet we would say their goals are in line with one another. You make it sound like one person is necessarily conforming to the will of another. There's nothing inherently positive about being "challenging". People can be needlessly cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 12:55 PM
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So a woman's life history of moving from partner to partner has not one iota of bearing on whether she will continue that pattern of behavior in the future. But ... slut-shaming, through some indirect, vague mechanism, leads to rape(s) perpetrated by other men. I don't buy it one bit, to be honest. Reminds me of arguments that porn or rap lyrics lead men to rape, or that video games lead kids to shoot up schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 12:40 AM
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Even if she has the two loveliest breasts in the world, that won't be much comfort if you're arguing over your future together every night. Speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 12:33 AM
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Nothing new here. You could call this the "denial phase". His assumptions regarding women and interpersonal relations are being severely challenged, and he isn't sure yet how to contextualize the reality he's being exposed to. To continue with the cheesy Matrix metaphors, Morpheus makes it clear that the red pill only offers the truth. It's up to you to take that truth and build your own happiness with it, no one can really do that for you. This seems like a poor example of men being "hurt" by T…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 12:31 AM
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Beauty, mostly. Also personality, though, to some extent. High SMV != marriage material, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 11:38 PM
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TRP says to not marry promiscuous women. Even if you disagree with that, that isn't treating people "like trash". TRP doesn't treat all men who have a lot of sex like they're awesome. TRP recognizes that a lot of men who are very sexually successful are assholes, Dark Triad, socially destructive, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 09:29 AM
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In the context of TRP, alpha refers to sexual success. I'm not at all convinced that Madeleine Albright is an "alpha". Her position as Secretary of State certainly doesn't make her so. Putin does come off an alpha, but that has a lot to do with his personality, not just his position. Medvedev, for example, was far, far less of an alpha despite holding the same office.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 06:59 AM
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Yes, those traits may exist, and some people may have them, but the dichotomy of "alpha/beta" is toxic. Why is it toxic? Because it hurts people's self-esteem? Recognizing inequality isn't the same as promoting inequality. You don't have to be happy about the alpha/beta dichotomy to recognize that it exists (or, rather, that a sexual hierarchy exists, it's more probably more of a spectrum than a strict dichotomy, the point is it isn't just differentiation -- it involves superiority and dominance…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 01:47 AM
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The seven positive traits seem very vague and not very helpful in a practical way. Stuff like “Overcome gridlock.” and “Let your partner influence you.”. The Four Horsemen has some merit in it (although I don't think I agree completely), but it doesn't seem like he is saying anything that radically new or groundbreaking. Some of the things he doesn't advocate: This looks like a 60-something guy who practices therapy with his wife, kind of looks like an ex-hippie, has a very positive-thinking New…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 01:43 AM
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I never really thought there was anything in TRP that was so morally reprehensible that I was forced to seriously ponder the (a)morality of it all. I feel like a lot of people dislike it because it sheds light on some of the uglier behaviors people engage in and because it focuses on a lot of inconvenient truths about sex and gender relations. I don't think it's at all comparable to killing someone or promoting racial violence, that's just so far out of my experience with TRP. I do know people o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 01:29 AM
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LOL @ SJWs and neoreactionary tech-beards being today's communists and fascists. You're giving way too much credit to the internet. To me, this is reminiscent of the political atmosphere in the 1920s and 30s, with communists and fascists gaining popular mass followings and scaring traditional elites. This is happening, but look at parties like SYRIZA and Golden Dawn in Greece for IRL examples. Here's another good example from Poland: http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2015/jan/19/pretty-radi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 01:16 AM
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10 years ago (I'm 28), I actually identified as a feminist. I grew up in very humble circumstances. My parents were very hardworking, blue-collar types. Politically, I generally identified as a lefty in my adolescence and in college. I was never really that interested in gender politics growing up, but passively identifying as a feminism sort of came with the territory of my other beliefs at the time. I did familiarize myself with many of the more significant feminist texts during this time. I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 12:04 AM
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He deliberately read Dworkin's most extreme screeds and sought out the most misandric material. Its telling that he kept looking for this batshit insane stuff. Dworkin's work is hardly different from that of Catherine MacKinnon. In fact, they collaborated on anti-pornography work. MacKinnon is a professor at Michigan Law, is still a frequent public speaker on gender issues on campuses around the country, and has published numerous books through academic presses. She famously drafted an anti-porn…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 12:43 AM
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The traditionalist cultural values I'm describing were the dominant cultural system in the capitalist West for most of its history pre-1960s. There are parts of the world where capitalism and pre-feminist or non-feminist cultural values coexist today (some parts of East Asia and Latin America for example). In contrast, there's a huge intersection / overlap between feminism and socialism. The early USSR pursued an explicitly feminist cultural policy. A lot of prominent feminists during the interw…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 09:02 AM
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There's no good fucking reason to disable the sexual marketplace, and allowing people to participate on a deregulated SM is not some 'arbitrary liberal fantasy': It's the cornerstone of RP thought. I can think of several reasons why a society might avoid deregulation of the sexual marketplace. Social peace and security concerns (disenfranchised, uncoupled males are often socially disruptive). Population concerns (the birth-rate is much higher in places with more traditional courtship models than…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 02:08 AM
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Haven't read the book but it sounds like Christian Gray has money, preselection (other women want him), and he's physically attractive. If you're high-value, you can be beta to a greater extent than someone who isn't. George Clooney can be as beta as he wants to be and still hook up with as many beautiful women as he wants. For someone of a more pedestrian background (most of TRP readers), it doesn't work that way. You gotta put much more emphasis on frame. There's also a big difference between …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 11:55 AM
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Narcissistic tongue-in-cheek making fun of the fact they hadn't managed to find a mate yet? That's definitely true of the XO Jane article. The other articles don't come off that way. The women are earnest. It seems to me the motivation comes from New Age-y rhetoric regarding personal affirmation, individual happiness, and so on, judging by the women who are quoted, and not from an attempt to poke fun at social expectations regarding marriage. You can't believe they are being serious about this, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 05:52 AM
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So TRP creates the kind of man who's attractive/into a certain kind of woman, then? Yes, TRP is all about helping men self-improve so they become more attractive. It doesn't teach that men should be into a certain kind of woman though, although it does give general advice if one decides to couple up (for example, avoid women with very extensive sexual histories). But she also seems to be the kind of woman TRP dislikes too? How so? Your description of her did not sound off-putting, but I may be m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 03:56 AM
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women prefer older, tall white men who are very buffed and it kind of caused an internal conflict for me. I don't know about being very buff, but yes, if we're generalizing, the dominant archetype of an attractive man in the U.S. is probably a taller, older (maybe 5-10 years older than the female), White male who is muscular and fit (but not totally shredded, however). That doesn't mean that's the only type of male who is attractive. It's the most popular type though, by far. Keep in mind that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 03:11 AM
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Why is a misaligned mental and physical not a mental disorder? I don't see how those are somehow mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 11:55 AM
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Better for women. Just let them do their thang and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 11:53 AM
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Why should society accede to someone's self definition?! Why does refusal to do so make one an "ass"? If I ask you to call me "King" from now on, will your refusal to do so make you an "ass"? My definition of a man or woman runs far deeper than outward genital shape (especially if those genitals are the product of crude mutilation), self-presentation, or some vague "feelings" on the part of someone who is admittedly in a state of "dysphoria". The biological differences run deeper than most pro-t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 11:46 AM
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Western medicine no longer classifies trans-ness as a mental disorder anymore You appeal to the authority of "Western medicine" while, in the same breath, conceding that until very recently "Western medicine" recognized that being trans was a mental disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 11:20 AM
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I don't understand why it is a problem. When it comes to women only locker rooms and bathrooms, it has to do with privacy. People often feel more comfortable using such private facilities in a single-sex environment. That's a very common phenomenon across the world/ When it comes to sororities, colleges and places like that, it has to do with a desire to share a common experience with only women. There's more to being a woman than the superficial shape of your genital area and your general outwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 11:14 AM
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Ah, so we're just going to deny trans people exist outright. <sigh> It seems to me he is asserting that gender is fixed at birth. I don't see how that equates to denying that trans people exist. There's no logical contradiction in recognizing that there are people who wish to change their gender and engage in medical procedures in the attempt to do so, without accepting that they've actually gone from being, say, a man to a woman. It has more to do with one's notion of what gender is and how it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 05:55 AM
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More properly stated: gender roles are increasingly out of date for First World women, but they are far, far from out of date for men. Men have come to accept women who take on social roles once reserved solely for men, but women have yet to accept men who do the inverse, at least not in large numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 03:21 AM
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Would you say your views/actions are typical of women at large, across America and the Western world in general? Let's assume: White woman, no college education, politically moderate-to-conservative, lives in a suburban community, conventionally attractive, mainstream taste. Is that woman going after tall and strong dudes with status, or average build guys whose kindness and generosity is their defining feature? I'm hesitant to take anything written by a "feminist raised by feminists" at face va…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 02:49 AM
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Not necessarily. Often high profile individuals actually get paid to hit up a club. The business they bring in just by being there can make up for comping a few individuals. They don't necessarily have to be celebs per se. A lot of NYC clubs that make an active effort to bring in patrons from the world of finance often comp financiers with near-zero name recognition outside of Wall Street. VIP sections that I've seen have like a 2-to-1 female-to-male ratio or even better, and there is a pretty s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 02:15 AM
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What is model r style?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 02:01 AM
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Title: The three most important factors for millennial women when deciding to have sex with a man in 2015 OP: I think I have perfected the list for what women care about as far as engaging in sexual relations with a man during their late teens to early twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 02:00 AM
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Most RP jargon comes in the form of short-hand for concepts that are readily understandable. Things like "AFBB". Whether you agree with the notion that AFBB is a real thing or not, it's not terribly difficult to comprehend what it's saying. Feminism so often comes wrapped in extremely vague, post-modern language that would make Deleuze and Guattari blush. Most academic feminist texts are extremely inward-looking and exclusionary. The type of language used makes it clear that feminism is only aim…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 01:41 AM
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This. Feminism as a political ideology is really a product of the Boomer generation. Boomers are in economic and political power for now, and they uphold feminism at the institutional level. As they die off, the tides will change. Despite how loud Millenial SJWs are, they're a fairly small minority of Westerners (grossly over represented on the internet and on college campuses, ergo perceptions to the contrary) and their power will fade as their patrons, the Boomers, fade away. Notice how a show…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 01:23 AM
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I've known a number of women who had very high standards when it came to a man's finances. I'm not sure I would necessarily call them gold-diggers, even. They care about other aspects and traits, but a top 5% income (at least, or considerable wealth) is a prerequisite for getting in the door. Fear is a motivator. Not terror-level fear, but a slow-burning anxiety and dread that they won't be able to live the kind of lifestyle they want or aspire to. As for men who avoid promiscuous women: as you …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 01:13 AM
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It is quite obvious that the problem of black on black crime is a product of poverty, if anything. I don't think it's a gun problem so much as a society problem. When a group of people is living under unfavorable conditions, they generally will resort to more desperate measures. Gangs are such an example (especially since generally, gangs are associated with low income populations, and deal in things that more well off folks generally aren't as likely to deal with). The poorest parts of America …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 11:14 PM
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Well, in fairness, I doubt many rappers are members of the NRA. It's the NRA that has actual political power. Having political power is bad? The NRA has political power because it has immense, democratic support in the U.S. The NRA had $227.8 million in revenue in 2010. $100.5 million came from membership dues. A bit over $6 million came from program fees. Liberals love to argue that the NRA is an industry group funded by gun manufacturers. Smith & Wesson, Beretta, and Ruger each donated around …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 09:42 PM
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Do you support the use of race/sex/age heurestics? Absolutely, I think social prohibitions on using them are insane. The intersection between race and gender creates a lot of problems for feminism. Think back to the NYC catcall video from a fewmonths back. It's no surprise to anyone who actually lives in NYC, especially anyone who steps outside of Lower Manhattan, that Black and Caribbean men catcall women far, far more often than White men do. Recognizing that fact endangers the liberal politic…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 08:55 PM
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I've known a number of "Nice Guys". In a previous life, I might have fallen into that category myself. I've never gotten the impression that the frustration that "Nice Guys" feel stems from a repressed desire to be anally penetrated. That just sounds silly to me. The author is (incorrectly, in my opinion) assuming that her customer based adequately represents the male population at large. She does come closer to the truth here: A man is expected to be a breadwinner with a stable job, earning eno…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 08:38 PM
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Outline the changes you perceive. How has the conception of beauty changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 04:44 AM
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Furthermore, if you hold the belief that Red Pill is founded on evolutionary principles, why is it that you think the same traits that were selected in our prehistoric times (men = strength & provider and women = chastity & child caregiver) would still be selected now? Prehistoric times? I would argue that a gender-based division of labor (which is one of the key sources of traditional gender roles, in my estimation) provided enormous utility in the First World as recently as last (20th) century…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 04:43 AM
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Disney? They are cartoons. You're not supposed to take them seriously. Your parents? They think the sun shines out of your ass so their advice is going to be shit. Society? No, sorry, the world isn't going to be handed to you on a silver platter. The fact that cartoons aren't meant to be taken seriously is completely lost on their target demographic: children, who are impressionable and who internalize a great deal of what they see. It goes far beyond Disney, of course. In contemporary America (…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 01:52 AM
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Can you define public goods? What are you referring to with regards to equal access to public goods?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 01:10 AM
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I think you have to differentiate between TRP and the "manosphere" in general. TRP is aimed at improving one's prospects with regards to sex. The broader manosphere includes a lot of men who have given up on sex and dating and are more focused on socio-political change. I don't think they'd care too much about coming off as an unattractive. With regard to TRP, I consider the "anger stage" to be essential for many men. It's a transformative period. Most of the men who come TRP pedestalize women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 12:38 AM
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They're physically smaller, on average, than White or Black men. They're overly intellectual (i.e. high academic performances, on average; concentration in STEM fields). They're often very awkward and not sexually aggressive. They're perfect Beta Bux but it's very, very rare to find an Indian or Chinese Alpha, even if they're wealthy and physically fit. Too cerebral. Care too much about the future. Not sexy enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 12:19 AM
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Doesn't say much. Muslims in Germany are voting 90% left-wing despite being mostly varying shades of conservative, simply because it's the leftist parties that lobby for their cause. Muslims in Germany generally have lower-than-average incomes, work in manual labor or the service sector, and disproportionately rely on public benefits/welfare. In the U.S., Indian-Americans and Chinese-Americans have among the highest income of any ethnic group (certainly higher than native born Whites, probably u…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 12:17 AM
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Of the very promiscuous women I've known, few seem to have been motivated by a genuine desire to experience a lot of pleasure. Most of them: Had some kind of aversion to emotional intimacy, especially if that emotional intimacy required providing any kind of emotional support to a partner. Were rebelling against some authority figure, usually a parent. Had an extreme hatred for traditional gender roles, and perceived these traditional roles as the source of most of what is wrong with society. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 03:41 AM
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What kind of shaming did you face, specifically? And why do you tie this shaming to TRP? TRP tells men to be savvy. Even if a RP man is put off by promiscuity, they're probably not going to express that publicly (as in IRL publicly, I know TRP subreddit is a public venue, it's mostly anonymous though). More to the point, TRP doesn't really shame promiscuous women. Some TRP men pretty much exclusively sleep with sluts. All TRP says is that men who are looking for a sustainable LTR need to be very…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 03:31 AM
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I think that's true for a lot of men already. Many of their social interactions (and their "love") is aimed at their bros and male compatriots, while inter-gender relations are primarily reserved for sex. I think it's true of an increasing number of women as well. We'll probably see more of that phenomenon in Western society as marriage and traditional coupling continue to erode.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 08:52 AM
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I don't think any normal person should feel forced to apologize for their views if that's what you mean. That is indeed what I was asking. And I'm saying it's a strange question. People don't like their comments so they put out some boilerplate apology, it has nothing to do with what they want to say. It's just the nature of PR, I guess? I don't feel any way about it. Celebrities say controversial things on Twitter constantly. They get backlash constantly. They don't always apologize. The U.S. m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 04:35 AM
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I don't think that it matters what my feelings are regarding women who adhere to traditional roles are because it does not have a negative or positive impact on my life, it has no impact. Second Wave feminism would argue that the personal is always political, and that a woman's life choices do have a measurable impact on the life choices that are available to other women. In particular, Second Wave feminism objected to the traditional nuclear family. While I suspect that most here are Third Wave…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 04:28 AM
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I see that, I'm just not sure what your point is. I'm asking whether people agree with the precedent that is being formed. Whether they feel celebrities should apologize for not ID'ing as feminists. Where they would draw the lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 04:20 AM
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I think you're taking a boilerplate apology too seriously. How so? My assumption is that it wasn't even written by her. It was probably written by a PR person. What I find fascinating is the backlash and the fact that she (or her managers/handlers) felt compelled to apologize as a result. I wasn't really focused on the particular language she used in the apology. The reason I asked those questions is because there have been critiques of other female celebrities for saying they don't ID as femini…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 04:12 AM
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Completely serious. I've seen folk at the redpill post how women's love isn't as pure as a man's love. So... why settle for impure love? Impure love ... Yet, you're asking why TRP men are interested in having sex with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 04:01 AM
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To answer the question in the title: because you don't have to like someone to enjoy fucking them. That goes for men as well as women. I'm all for bettering yourself so you can attain the kind of life you want, but do you really want someone who is submissive and conforms to everything and is basically a robot? It just seems like people with so much vigor would want someone who could match their passion, not the color of the furniture in their living room. There are a lot of assumptions baked in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 03:59 AM
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Can you define what you mean by "transaction"? OP's states that Thus, we end up with a "Sexual Marketplace," where men use status/money/muscles/blah blah to effectively purchase sex from women. Thus, in his model, a woman who is attracted to a man's physical appearance and charisma was "won over" by the man, he "got sex" from her, and this fits his transactional model. The OP is highlighting the fact that women are sexual gatekeepers and challenging TBP, who seem to strenuously object to that no…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 03:01 AM
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I absolutely agree with them that sex is not something that men "get from women." Women like sex just as much as men do, sometimes more. I don't see how the fact that women like sex just as much, if not more, than men, in any way, shape, or form, contradicts the notion that men "get sex" from women. OP is highlighting the fact that women are typically the "gatekeepers" of sex. It is typically up to the man to "win over" the woman. Many, many women find that being pursued, or gamed, or woo'ed, or…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 02:58 AM
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The humor there (very heavy on the snark and sarcasm) doesn't appeal to me. Based on the language they use, I'm willing to bet most TBP users are sheltered, probably somewhat privileged, white college kids, mostly female, very liberal, very self-righteous. I've spent a lot of time around people like this and they're obnoxious as can be. Overall though, it's pretty easy to ignore the sub, so it's existence doesn't bother me really.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 12:26 AM
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The answer is no, although the question is poorly worded. It doesn't make sense for "TRP" to have an opinion on 6 and below women. TRP is meant to help individual men. It's all relative. If a guy starts off as a 3 or 4, landing a 6 might be a huge accomplishment after years of TRP-inspired self-improvement. If he starts off much higher on the totem pole, then a 6 might not be that special to him but I don't think TRP would say to ignore her or treat her as if she's invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 12:14 AM
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I think it is actually even more effective on women over 25, who are educated, independent-minded, etc. Part of it has to do with (1) not being like the rest of the men around her, and (2) satisfying sexual fantasies that might be difficult for her to satisfy in her usual social circles. Go to a school like Smith, or Vassar, or Swarthmore, and run some TRP "asshole game" and you'll see. Some of these girls are the freakiest. They're usually less jaded than the "club rat" type and thirstier for h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 03:21 AM
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Some of them may become footsoldiers for reactionaries and neo-Nazis. This is already happening. In Hungary, Jobbik has organized the Hungarian Guard (Magyar Garda) as a unit of political soldiers. Most of their recruits are economically disenfranchised young men. http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02554/Magyar-Garda_2554371b.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_z8Z8NFnVzNs/RtSY8-c9m1I/AAAAAAAAA6A/cCRmTUlqjLs/s400/magyar_garda_hungarian_guard.jpg Golden Dawn in Greece is also building its cadr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 03:23 AM
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As men fade out of the economy and make less money, women will bear the heaviest tax burden and become resentful of all the failure to launch guys in their 40s soaking up welfare/healthcare benefits the women all voted in their college years. I suspect professional women might be even more resentful at carrying the tax burden that pays for non-professional, non-educated women. It'll be interesting to see what happens when unmarried, childless, high-earning women are paying taxes to support non-e…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 03:09 AM
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Well, if you were to point out that I was writing from a very US centric POV, you'd be correct. That's fair. We've seen a major realignment of political forces in the E.U., with the emergence of economically-left/socially-right parties, that we haven't really seen in the U.S. I will point out that in Alaska, Arkansas, Nebraska, and South Dakota, voters passed initiatives to raise the state minimum wage during the 2014 elections. During those same elections, 3 of those states flipped from having …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 02:59 AM
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I'll add one more thought ... A lot of TRP adherents acknowledge that Dark Triad traits are attractive to women. However, the reason they're "TRP adherents" is because these traits don't come to them naturally (and thus they've sought out help in maximizing their attractiveness). Thus, they're faking the Dark Triad traits they exhibit. It's learned behavior. It's mimicry, to some degree. Maybe it's better to have to fake it. You can put on a performance in a bar when you're picking someone up, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 02:52 AM
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Your doxxing and trolling doesn't seem to rise to the level of psychopathy, in my eyes. That's beside the point though, since you presumably want to change your negative behavior regardless of what label it falls under. You also don't seem to exhibit the type of Dark Triad traits that appeal to women and that TRP extols. Women like the "I don't give a fuck" attitude and being able to transgress social boundaries by proxy. I wouldn't place "doxxing a chatroom mod" on the same level as, say, a guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 02:39 AM
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I see a new conservative coalition forming. The old one will die out or go through heavy changes. I could see it being more culturally progressive, but economically conservative. Cultures are mutable; economic principles are hardier. As an example, I could easily see gay men as being part of the new conservative coalition, as they are generally hard working and wealthy. Most of the gay people I know are more "alpha" than straight men. They are a known gentrifying force in multiple urban areas I …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 02:09 AM
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Regulation as instituted by liberal state legislatures, and city councils disproportionately affect the entrepreneurial poor. A large trucking company for example can easily absorb costs of a new environmental law phasing out "old semis", an owner operator or a small trucking company cannot. An emblematic example of this is the role that environmentalist-led water regulation in California has had on the agricultural economy in the San Joaquin Valley, which is overwhelmingly Mexican-American. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 01:49 AM
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"I've got mine, sod the rest of you" selfishness How do you reconcile this with the following: Most of the ascendant political parties I highlighted extol economic populism to some degree. The French National Front's proposed economic protectionism policies are far more in line with Francois Mitterand's brand of moderate socialism than anything put forward by Sarkozy or the neoliberal right wing. In fact, some of these "far-right" parties are putting forward policies that would be at home in FDR…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 01:28 AM
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Would men all agree to stop drinking? Or would they demand laws to try to stop it from happening? Alternatively, would they just put up with it - and laugh at the possible transmissions of STDs, HIV, social shame & humiliation, and photos and videos of the assault floating around the internet? Laws against rape and sexual assault already exist. What do you mean by "better laws"? That's very vague. Most of the feminist rhetoric around rape, especially the current debate about rape on college camp…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 12:56 AM
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