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I appreciate the kudos. I suspect you’re right: they were violent people, and they simply relied on manipulating people until that was no longer sufficient to get what they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:24 AM
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It’s possible that the first one interpreted your busy schedule as soft rejection? I can’t imagine cancelling plans over a skinned knee…but maybe I’m just an irresponsible parent? I’m sorry :(
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:32 AM
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I’m not trying to clear myself of responsibility. None of the above described acts of violence/sexual assault was sufficient for me to even cut those people out of my life. To this day, I’m cordial with my dad’s friend. I stayed in a relationship with the guy who threw me through a wall AND with Mr. Slip-it-in for at least a few months after each of those incidents until those relationships dissolved for unrelated reasons. I had low self esteem and wanted the relationships to work, so I readily …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:24 PM
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I think as humans we all VALUE other characteristics on top of that (kindness, etc) but immediate attraction is very basal and instinctive. That said, the addition of emotional connection can absolutely increase attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:12 PM
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Maybe I’m brainwashed? I honestly still don’t see them as especially violent people. They weren’t aggressive or rude in daily life, I’m not aware of them ever fighting other men or even yelling at other men…but when it came down to getting what they really wanted in the heat of the moment, they were both willing to use their strength over me to achieve that. I know I’m making them sound like sociopaths, but they weren’t that either (except maybe my dad’s friend). I guess people can be more than …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:15 AM
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Yes…these behaviors matter and directly impact attraction. It’s hard to explain, but how someone carries themselves is often the most important factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:15 PM
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Interesting. I’ve known lots of great women with nose rings.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:43 PM
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Unfortunately I think many women in fact do. Surely we can recognize that if there is racism and people treat racial minorities worse due to stereotypes, then we can tpretend that the constant portrayal of men as murdered and rapists and evil in society, won't have an effect on how women treat men. I literally NEVER see anti-male content. I’m sure it exists, and that female versions of Andrew Tate get plenty of engagement, but I never see it because I don’t personally engage with that kind of ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:52 PM
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Yea, I also don’t think most women blame all/most men for their bad behavior crimes of a few. I think a few noisy rage-baiting influencers make ridiculous generalizations about men, and you apply that reasoning to all women. That’s not fair either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:19 PM
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I’m all for a system that holds women accountable for their bad behavior. That said, while women certainly CAN be as violent and predatory as men, I think most violent crime is perpetrated by males. The average is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:00 PM
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Physically attractive men tend to be more confident. The confidence is a huge component of our attraction. You assume it’s his looks. That’s often not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:53 PM
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It’s so attractive when men claim to understand my brain better than I do. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:46 PM
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Women don’t deny their attraction to physically attractive men. But it’s definitely not the only factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:38 PM
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Attraction is definitely basal/reptilian, but it is NOT all physical. Guys jump so many points just by being smart, funny, competent, and/or confident. I remember watching my husband set up a wall before painting it. He worked so swiftly and knew exactly what he was doing. I undressed him immediately. Totally animalistic, but it wasn’t about the rippling pectorals…it was just sexy how capable he looked. No fumbling around, just knew what he was doing. This is only one example out of millions…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:36 PM
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What a great question. I wish I had better advice to offer. I tend to be a pretty down-to-Earth person, so even though a lot of women will probably disagree, I’d probably be worried if a girl was dressed entirely in designer clothes. I have a few nice hand bags, but I’d probably assume that someone wearing a $10,000 outfit is pretty shallow. Always avoid someone who is rude or impatient with service staff.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:01 AM
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When I was laying in front of a fireplace at age 12, wearing a white shirt with a rose on it, my father’s 45 year-old friend started rubbing my back. I pretended to be asleep while his hands squeezed my tiny breast buds and touched between my legs over my clothes. I never said a word. When I was 19, my non-violent CS major boyfriend threw me through a wall, leaving a huge labia-shaped hole in the drywall. He was mad that I changed my email password. 2 years after that, I was sleeping in bed next…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:15 PM
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Compensate by providing additional time with the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:55 PM
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What a clever analogy! You’re so right!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:27 PM
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It’s amusing: your argument here is actually loaded with logical fallacies. Your premises are objectionable, and your inferences are invalid. Surely you recognize the difference between possibility and necessity, right? And the failure to acknowledge competing factors such as moral constraints and women’s resistance? So short-sighted and incomplete. If this is your idea of “logic”, I could run circles around you. Xxoo. Sincerely, A woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:47 AM
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Two people should not have sex unless they are BOTH willing to accept the risk of potentially raising a child together. I don’t say this as some sort of prude who thinks that casual sex is bad. The risk of this happening when birth control is properly used is close to nothing, so it’s not an unreasonable risk to consider taking. But there absolutely needs to be awareness from both parties that a child may result from having sex. The expectation that women should be expected to have an abortion E…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:15 AM
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By “if the woman made that decision for him”, are you referring to the choice to NOT get an abortion after already pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:39 PM
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I’m not claiming that men are routinely misrepresenting themselves in effort to avoid the responsibilities of parenthood, but I have seen it happen where a woman got pregnant without being able to track down the father. I don’t think he even considered the possibility; but she was no less pregnant, and as far as I’m aware, he still has no idea. I agree it’s more common for men to simply skip out on interacting/caring/raising their child, and/or intentionally misrepresenting their income and asse…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:01 PM
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If it’s someone you just met, you might not even know enough about him to track him down. And yea—even if they pay state minimum child support that doesn’t make them a good dad. If they don’t interact with their kids on a regular basis, they are a deadbeat dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:50 PM
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Women face significantly higher minimum reproductive costs. If a woman engages in sex with the wrong person, she risks pregnancy, childbirth, and life as a single mother. If a man impregnates the wrong woman, he can often escape without consequence. He just needs to give her a fake name and disappear. It makes sense for women to be more careful and selective than men. Also, a lot of the traits that women find desireable are demonstrated by the process of initiating. Confidence, interest, charism…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:49 PM
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Different women like different things. Men who have had a shit ton of sec are not necessarily better lovers. Having sex with the same person repeatedly, and actually learning their body and preferences, is where actual improvement takes place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:29 PM
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Of course, some women do bad things. There is no good excuse for misogyny or for misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:07 AM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:53 PM
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I didn’t say that you’re breaking the law. I pointed out the fact that your attraction to a mentally underdeveloped age group that you can conceivably groom is consistent with psychological illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:49 PM
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You are sick
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:31 PM
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A LTR is not simply the result of a successful hook-up… A ONS with NSA must be approached with specific expectations that are understood by both parties, or someone will inevitably get hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:17 PM
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And…? That still doesn’t mean that women are “panicking” as soon as they hit 30, and it doesn’t mean that they are settling for men they don’t desire. It’s completely non-sequitur…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:59 PM
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Not true AT ALL. If a person has good relationship potential, I will intentionally make sure we get to know each other first to avoid becoming a simple ONS and to add intimacy to the sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:15 PM
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Not sure what you think you’re proving here. Obviously some women want relationships with men. That certainly doesn’t prove that they panic en masse upon reaching age 30. What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:11 AM
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I don’t know anyone who actually “panicked” at 30. That said, there are obviously some women who would prefer to have children in the context of a nuclear family.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:34 PM
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Wanting children is not the same thing as wanting a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:07 PM
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Some women begin to get nervous about their waning ability to produce healthy children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:37 PM
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I’m sure there are rare examples of this actually happening, but it is not the norm. The idea of being in a relationship with someone I don’t desire sounds neither comfortable nor stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:31 PM
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The big booty bouncing on a dick is not something women actually see when having sex with men. It is something men typically see when they have sex with women. That’s what we mean when we say “the male gaze”. Get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 01:17 AM
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The fact that childbirth is natural doesn’t mean that it isn’t hugely physically taxing. It results in permanent damage to the woman’s body, even when everything goes well. Nobody said that makes mothers automatically great parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:17 AM
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Find out her love language, and behave accordingly. Mine is words of affirmation. Some people prefer gifts or physical touch or acts or service, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:40 PM
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Typically, groups of people. Night clubs often offer space for dancing 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:55 PM
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Am I wrong? I would think that if you had experience at a variety of clubs, you would understand how different they can be from one another. I suspect you are envisioning blacklights and super-loud hip hop with people grinding on strangers…there are far better club experiences to be had.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:43 PM
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If you are able to meet as many people through some other mechanism, that’s great!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:35 PM
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Sounds like you wrote off “clubs” without actually having much experience visiting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:30 PM
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Even the same nightclub venue can transform into a completely different atmosphere depending on the theme they are selling on a given night. Live music or DJ? Hip hop, country, or jazz? Lounging or line dancing? The core feature is socializing with other young people. If you reject that, yes, it will be more difficult for you to meet someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:20 PM
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All you need to do is meet new people. Nobody starts a new relationship the first day they meet anyway—you exchange numbers and get to know each other over the next few days. Or you stay home and meet nobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:10 PM
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There are lots of kinds of clubs…the only thing they all have in common is people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:03 PM
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Ooh, do you have actual data and logic supporting the things you’re saying?? Please share!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:23 PM
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Does “sense of humor” count as “game”? I love a man who can make me laugh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:07 PM
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This is a solid review: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5110041/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:32 PM
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Neuroscience disagrees with you. Women consistently score higher on empathic concern and emotional recognition than men, regardless of the target of the empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:50 PM
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Sounds like my husband and me. ❤️ There’s nobody I respect more than my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:35 PM
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That’s not true. It’s rare for either of us to reject the other, but it certainly does happen sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:47 PM
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Who said it should take hours? Just because we have a hard time finishing within 3 minutes doesn’t mean we want it to take hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:43 PM
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Only if my husband turns me down.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:39 PM
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That is NOT why we buy and use sex toys. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:51 PM
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wtf is “testing”?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:43 PM
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“The idea is the Janissaries could do things the sultans couldn't, like hold political office, but they were \still* the sultans' slaves. Similarly. men *might* be able to do things like hold political offices that women cannot, but they are still their women's, well, slaves.”* I think you are being disingenuous when you suggest that women are the “sultans” in this analogy. Historically, women have been legally considered the property of their husbands—this is the very definition of slavery. She…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:23 PM
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> Ok, fine, just buy me my machines then Not sure what your point is. I’m not suggesting that the clothes are being hand washed, or that it’s especially time consuming to throw clothes in the machine. I’d say folding and putting away a load of clothes takes about a half hour, unless you have “help” from the kids, in which case it takes longer. This is really an incredible parallel you’re making here. I’m impressed. I mean, it's not really a hard argument. During Jim Crow, slaves had their childr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:20 AM
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Ok, so to be clear, I’m assuming the 3 year-old is home and the 6 year-old is in school. I’ve gotta get the details down to share the secret to “finishing by 11” with all the mommy groups. Dad wakes up and gets dressed then spends the morning getting the kids dressed and clean, making and eating and cleaning up breakfast, packing lunch, taking the 6 year-old to school, washing dishes, doing laundry/folding and putting away clothes, vacuuming and mopping, and preparing food for lunch and dinner. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:26 PM
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Yeah, if your friend said they “clean up after themselves” then he lied to you. Of course, kids that age can “help” (I.e., adult does 99% of the clean up while teaching the kids what to do. Takes twice as long) but they still need constant guidance and definitely cause more destruction than anything else. Instilling kids with good habits takes a decade of the greatest patience known to man. And you still haven’t explained the phenomenal “done by 11am” schedule! Are these dad’s spending afternoon…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:17 PM
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There was no victim blaming here. I just don’t understand why you expect to marry someone who eventually abuses you. You are making a very specific sequence of plans in effort to prepare for an outcome that will most likely never happen. Your last statement is incorrect. Research suggests that women and men are equally likely to become aggressive (e.g., throw things, slam doors, etc), but men are more likely to actually cause injury and/or kill their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:53 PM
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Haha! How old are these kids??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:59 PM
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Is this a real situation, or are you planning to marry a woman who becomes abusive, have children, and then become a stay at home dad prior to divorcing her?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:21 PM
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> A woman having money to afford a stay at home husband > most likely means that money is already in the bank and > is NOT a marital asset. Why do you make this statement? Why do you assume that a woman who can afford a SAHD must have had that money before getting married?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:15 PM
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> and why do we support income differences being used to > determine support at all? we agree with 50% custody so > there shouldn't be. Depends where you live. Some places expect each parent to contribute a percentage of their income. Some places use an income shares model that determines the proportion of support you pay based on the proportion of total household income you earned. > No, you just said i was the lower earner and the stay at > home! Why am I paying support then?! If you are the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:36 PM
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Why do you assume that women can’t develop their careers during a marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:58 AM
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What an odd schedule for stay-at-home parents. So much so that I think you’ve invented it. What are these kids doing before 11? Is SAHD dropping them in front of a TV/tablet so he can mop the kitchen floor? That’s fine, but he’s just going to have to mop it again after lunch time when the kids cover it in food again. Surely the kids will want to help these dads with folding laundry, so he should expect it to take at least twice as long to get it done. I’m impressed that these men can wash the lu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:53 AM
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Yes, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 09:30 PM
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A man’s behavior is a major MAJOR factor in how attractive he is. Average looking men with the right attitude are absolutely worth lusting over. I’d say they are more lust-worthy than “Chad” if Chad has a bad attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:18 AM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:46 PM
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Your precise language and attention to nuance is appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:44 PM
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Accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:59 PM
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In that case, every minute of your life is a “test” for this same purpose. Every behavior has the chance to be perceived by her in some negative or positive way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:21 PM
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Obviously if you have a tantrum in response to her observation, you can destroy any desire she has to get with you. That will happen if you have a tantrum for any reason. But there is no correct response to her comment that will “more than likely lead to sex”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:15 PM
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Abortion and adoption are both extremely emotionally complicated options. Once a woman is pregnant, she begins developing a physiological attachment to the child itself, regardless of who the father is. The initial attraction to the guy may be due to traits that are correlated with criminality. Perhaps he is extroverted and more likely to take risks like asking her out in the first place? It certainly doesn’t mean that women are attracted to criminality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:11 PM
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This is a classic correlation vs. causation logical error. You are assuming that reproductive rate is proof of female preference for a given trait. That is not a reasonable conclusion from this information.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:50 AM
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Yea, that was not a “test”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:21 AM
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The absence of these traits is a major turn off
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:58 AM
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Sounds like poverty and generally low inhibitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:56 AM
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So they are worse at responsibly using birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:55 AM
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I like the decent tipper aspect too…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:53 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/NfPlw4S8mG
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:56 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:54 PM
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Yes, it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:56 PM
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The question requests thoughts on the comparison regarding suffering differences between men and women!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:40 PM
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The story has absolutely nothing to do with wine. You realize that, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:38 PM
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Dude, I responded to the actual question asked with data rather than anecdotes and provided a source so that people could evaluate the study for themselves. It is literally the most objective answer to this question. What part of my answer seems like an effort to prove that I have suffered more than anyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:42 PM
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I think it is extremely rare for anyone to consider the wrong wine an act of violence, and suggesting that the poll data would reflect that interpretation is assuming a serious lack of good faith by women in general. I think my experiences (I.e., real violence) are much more common than most people like to acknowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:36 PM
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Sounds like you have a lot of respect for women. /s My high school boyfriend threatened self harm/suicide if I broke up with him. My next boyfriend after that was the first guy to throw me through a wall. He was also extremely possessive and regularly went through my phone and even installed a key logger on my laptop. My next boyfriend after that was the first guy to force himself on me sexually. I’m sure those experiences were my fault though, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:09 AM
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According to a recent CDC study in California, roughly 30% of women experience physical/sexual violence compared to 16% of men. Psychological abuse is experienced by approximately 27% of women and 24% of men. https://www.valor.us/2026/02/26/newly-released-intimate-partner-violence-data-brief-prevention-is-paramount-for-safer-relationships/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:54 AM
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It is entirely possible for tall men to produce short sons. This is especially true if the women are shorter than average. Therefore, even if you eliminate female oppression and assume women only ever prefer tall men, short men would likely still exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:31 PM
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Who said anything can compensate for lack of sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:46 PM
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I have not experienced a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:45 PM
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Sex is important. I’m not arguing that. But you seem to think it’s all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:01 PM
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It’s not as simple as feeling “desired” that makes me want to have sex…it’s knowing that my husband is the kind of person who cares about more than just sex is very attractive to me. I think in 12 years, I’ve *maybe* rejected him 3-5 times total? And he’s rejected me a few times too, but both are exceptionally rare. Neither of us has established “outcome independence” (we both feel bummed when we are rejected!) so I guess we aren’t very attractive people!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:58 PM
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And apparently the men who can’t get any seem to think that’s all that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:11 PM
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It’s so sad! Funny thing is, knowing that my husband appreciates me for more than just sex makes me love having sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:09 PM
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Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:07 PM
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More sex. Not more value.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:06 PM
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It seems that the Bluepill goal is more than just “maximizing sex”. Perhaps they also value emotional connection, trust, family, and even the idea of growing old with someone? As such, the “optimal” route would be to invest in these things and not sex alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:04 PM
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Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:59 PM
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Right? Had to wait 6 weeks after each baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:56 PM
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Nobody said having sex is horrible behavior.,.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:53 PM
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You assume that all men have the same goals and priorities that you have. My husband and I have developed a very deep bond over 12 years of marriage, and even though other women may be more conventionally attractive and younger than I am, I know that he prefers his relationship with me over any potential relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:51 PM
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There are men out there that actually LIKE their wives, enjoy putting effort toward the relationship, and agree that it’s fair to split chores down the middle. For these men, TRP is not optimal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:46 PM
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Unattractive men can be just as good at manipulating.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:10 AM
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Note: I’m familiar with the different types of abortions. I suggested learning D&C, but I would be equally satisfied if we required men to clean up the products of conception after abortifacient pills expel the blood clot-shaped remains of the embryo from the woman’s vagina. He can be the one to flush that down the toilet, or choose to bury it. Perhaps he can even take some oxytocin so that he experiences the same level of bonding that occurs inside a pregnant woman’s brain. The goal is simply t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:15 PM
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I’m familiar with the different types of abortions. I suggested learning D&C, but I would be equally satisfied if we required men to clean up the products of conception after abortifacient pills expel the blood clot-shaped remains of the embryo from the woman’s vagina. He can be the one to flush that down the toilet, or choose to bury it. Perhaps he can even take some oxytocin so that he experiences the same level of bonding that occurs inside a pregnant woman’s brain. The goal is simply to requ…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:13 PM
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I say this as someone who is firmly pro-choice: There is no “paper equivalent” to choosing abortion. Abortion is an emotionally-loaded medical procedure that can result in serious psychological harm. It is not a simple practical decision with zero consequences. If we want to create an equivalent opportunity so that men can opt out of child support payments, we should require that they learn to perform a dilation & curettage procedure, and then personally vacuum their future child out of the woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:03 PM
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If you as a woman dont want to pay child support you can get an abortion. A man doesn't have that option. So if you decide on your own to keep the child he has no options. Thats the unfair part. I say this as someone who is firmly pro-choice: You frame the choice to get an abortion as if it’s a universally easy option rather than a psychologically devastating medical procedure with its own set of consequences. There is no “paper equivalent”. Perhaps it would be more “equal” if we required men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:54 PM
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I don’t agree that “women are fine” with men who have slept with hundreds of people. A lot of women would see both behaviors as red flags. I’m not sure where you got the idea that women see this as positive “experience” because honestly, I would assume a guy who can keep a partner around would be better in bed than those who have had tons of partners. I do think I would consider paying for sex “worse” though. I think that’s in large part because prostitution is illegal where I live, but also I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:13 PM
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That’s what I thought, but read the OP. It makes it seem like “agreeable traits” are a status thing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:27 PM
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I'd say you're right about it being more healthy, but I still stand by my assertion that information has a tendency to come out sooner or later. I’d agree that intentionally deceptive “secrets” (e.g., cheating) have a tendency to be uncovered over time, but private information like sexual history is not something I’m hiding out of shame or in effort to deceive my husband. It’s simply irrelevant. If my husband really wanted to know about my past sexual experiences, I would just tell him what he w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:08 PM
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You are the one who made an over-generalized statement, “information about the past has a tendency to come out sooner or later.” I never said that people never discuss their sexual histories. I simply cited my relationship as an example of one where sexual history is simply a nonissue. My experience also exists, and perhaps it is a healthier approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:52 PM
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Yes! So true!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:28 PM
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You should definitely make your beliefs clear to all women before they date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:23 PM
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I have 🤷‍♀️ My first love was an overweight guy with cystic acne…but he was SO funny. We dated for like 4-5 years. Good times.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:19 PM
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The idea that dating and breaking up is all based on attractiveness is just so far out of pocket. It’s like a fantasy world on these forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:18 PM
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12 years married and my husband has never asked about my previous sexual experiences. I don’t see it coming up anytime soon. He’s secure in himself and doesn’t need to compare to other men to feel validated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:06 PM
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Sex is different literally every time. Sometimes my husband has me begging for sex and feeling creative, and sometimes I am just not in that kind of headspace. It is not a measure of his attractiveness. He is the most attractive man on Earth. There is nobody I have ever desired more. And when you do your secret snooping by interviewing her exes and her friends, guess what? You’re not gonna hear about the run-of-the-mill encounters that they had. You’re only gonna hear about the best encounters. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:02 PM
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Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:55 PM
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I don’t know if this is what you mean when you mention “status”, but I always feel a certain sense of pride when I introduce my husband to new people. He is incredibly approachable and personable and just seems to effortlessly get along with everyone. I never considered it a “status” thing before, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to call it that. It’s a part of his personality that I admire, and I like seeing it in action.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:23 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:24 AM
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If she enjoyed the act, she will keep doing it. If she did not enjoy the act, she may choose to discontinue doing it. It’s as simple as that and has zero reflection on “how interested” she is in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:19 AM
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That’s not what I said. First, it should be obvious that not all women are comfortable having sex on the first date. This is a personal boundary and has nothing to do with who the guy is. However, assuming that the woman is open to the idea in the first place, it will depend on the level of connection she feels throughout the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:15 AM
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All men certainly could. The deciding factor would be the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:06 AM
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You seem to think that if you find the right girl, she will magically be cumming all over you without you having to put forth any effort to make that happen. This mindset is a recipe for failure. It does not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:49 AM
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If his needs aren’t met, he should leave. If his needs are based on what Brandon received, he should leave for her sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:46 AM
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First night kissing and hooking up happens as the result of a great fun date with a great connection and good vibes all around. Typically, it is more related to feeling good in the moment than finding someone especially attractive. Also, logistics matter as there has to actually be a safe option where the sex can take place. A lot of younger women eventually regret this rapid approach to sex and decide to wait with future men. It’s not personal and not due to less attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:44 AM
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Her enthusiasm is the result of your ability to please her. That is something that takes time to develop. If she spent 3 years with Brandon, it’s unreasonable to expect your sex with her to be as good when you first start dating. It has nothing to do with attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:35 AM
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He should realize that women aren’t vending machines and that sexual interests and boundaries evolve over time. It’s not personal. Assuming it’s personal is paranoid and unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:10 AM
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Sexual comfort is something that grows over time. It is not instantaneous. You are setting yourself up for failure because you will never give her the chance to get comfortable with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:07 AM
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“The best” is the result of practice on your part. Obviously she’s going to be more enthusiastic when her partner can actually get her off. Take the time to learn to do that, and you can stop competing with Brandon.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:04 AM
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lol love it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:03 AM
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8 billion people in the world doesnt erase pattern recognition. Actually, yeah—it kinda does. You join some niche subreddit and twelve other equally-disturbed men all agree that they also care deeply about a woman’s previous sexual experiences. Therefore, you think this is normal and healthy. Your sample is not representative. women act different with men their attracted to is not some anecdotal experience. its just human nature. Yeah. Women also don’t date men they aren’t attracted to. You thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:02 AM
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Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:45 AM
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Some men apparently think women are vending machines. If Brandon got a Diet Coke, then I deserve a Diet Coke too. If I don’t get one, that’s officially not fair and obviously proves she was more into Brandon than me, therefore I am so done with her. Flawless system.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:44 AM
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This!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:37 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:30 AM
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By this logic, you should only date the woman who has zero sexual boundaries with you. Anything less is “lesser”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:29 AM
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So sad. Deep dive secret covert op to find out if Brandon from 5 years ago was better at making her cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:27 AM
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What’s the definition of a hoe?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:13 AM
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At some point, repeat experiences with individual men across demographics does constitute a sample of the male population. It would be statistically unlikely for a genuinely “common” trait to be absent from all of these anecdotes. There are 8 billion people on this Earth. With that many people, there are “a lot” of people even in the rarest and strangest categories. There are “a lot” of men with statue fetishes, but that certainly isn’t the norm. More relevant would be a discussion of whether or…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:08 AM
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What, like STDs? Or do you want to hear that I always dressed up in cute outfits for guy 3 and always swallowed for guy 4 and stared deeply into guy 5’s eyes while giving him head? I
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:44 AM
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I’ve dated lots of men over the years, and literally ZERO of them asked about my previous sexual experiences. This is not a “higher standard”; it is an insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:35 AM
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It is not normal to expect your partner to provide details about their sexual past.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:03 AM
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Just want to say this is an awesome question ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:57 AM
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My husband has literally NEVER asked me about my previous sexual experiences. If he spent this much time thinking about what I’ve done with previous partners, I’d suggest therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:53 AM
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Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:51 AM
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It is a very sensitive area! Seemed sort of taboo to me for a long time, but after I got with my husband I felt a lot more comfortable experimenting with such things…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:26 PM
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I could be wrong though 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:46 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:45 PM
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You seem to think the pain disappears if you are in the right frame of mind. I think the tissue has to physically stretch to make it comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:31 PM
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Obviously psychological aversion can impact pleasure, but don’t dismiss the actual pain associated with it. That’s a very valid reason to dislike something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:39 PM
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As someone who actually enjoys anal, I have to say it is not “stigma” that makes it painful 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:29 PM
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Interesting. I hate pain. Hard to imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:20 PM
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Fair enough. I wish I were financially stable.*
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:02 AM
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I want to be wealthy. Sometimes I’m frustrated that I’m not wealthy. I don’t blame you for my lack of wealth. I also don’t assume I deserve to be wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:29 AM
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You apparently think women are lying there like dead fish while receiving you. I highly doubt that’s the case. I have never had sex like that in my life. I’m always moving to increase my enjoyment of it. That said, most guys stop having sex when they finish, even if the woman hasn’t finished yet. That absolutely IS on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:10 PM
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Haha, such a funny joke!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 02:29 AM
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Personally, I eventually figured it out. I just mean that it took years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:23 PM
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Masturbated but never figured out how to get to orgasm. Yep. 😐
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:12 AM
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Let's say you're about to have sex for the first time with a guy. What are you expectations going in for what you're likely to get out of that experience? When I was younger (e.g., 20s) there was a MASSIVE orgasm imbalance, and sex generally seemed like a chore rather than something I actually enjoyed. I mean, I appreciated the intimacy of it, but it didn’t get me truly worked up or leave me with that mind-blown sense of relief that orgasm achieves. During that time, I expected to get sweaty, po…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:51 AM
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I know a lot of men who would refuse to be penetrated anally even if their wives begged them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:55 PM
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I mean if that counts, then I definitely gave my husband special treatment. Carried two pregnancies and delivered two of his babies. Never did that for any other guy. Somehow I don’t think that’s what this post is talking about, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:53 PM
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This!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:48 PM
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So it wasn’t an effort to reward her for being your number 1, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:46 PM
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Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:44 PM
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Was this a practical decision (e.g., avoiding pregnancy and STDs) or a sentimental one?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:38 PM
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I actually mentioned this in another post and someone asked me “but what if your husband REALLY wanted to do it and you hated it with previous men—would you at least try it to see if you like it with your husband?” I basically said that would honestly depend on the act, but I certainly wouldn’t feel obligated to do something I hate. I also feel like the way they phrased this post, they feel like women are supposed to ration off sex acts to the highest bidder instead of choosing to engage based o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:35 PM
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I understand what you’re saying—obviously it tends to be more pleasurable to be on the receiving end of certain sex acts. But it’s mutually enjoyable because I genuinely like providing that experience for my husband. The description in the post rubbed me the wrong way—as if people were performing sex acts as some sort of performance bonus. ”Honey, I saved you the last chocolate. And also BDSM” If I may ask, did you “reserve” any specific sex acts for your wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:43 PM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:11 PM
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Sex is filthy! And honestly just plain bizarre. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:06 PM
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Omg that sounds awful
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:04 PM
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I have never considered sex acts as a gift or award for another person. This outlook is actually quite disgusting, to be honest. I am a human being who has sex because I enjoy actively participating in it and I feel comfortable doing it. That said, although I never consciously “reserved” specific sex acts exclusively for my husband (wtf??) there have been things that I’ve only felt comfortable doing with my husband (e.g., anal). The fact that I did not do this with previous men was because I did…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:02 PM
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Who pushed the literal agenda?? In what way has anyone been pushed into an illogical corner?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:46 PM
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Talk about misreading….
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:17 PM
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It’s not uncommon to say “that NEVER happens” when you mean that it is extremely rare. It is a common hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:15 PM
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If it’s not common, why would you accuse a woman of being dishonest for denying that it happens. Obviously she is as confused as I am as to why a woman would ever actually do this. If this isnt true, then the whole men investing more in some woman in the beginning vs others because he simply liked the newer girl more is also a lie. Both these share the same principles, just different contexts, if it happens in 1 it happens in the other Investing time and energy into a relationship is one thing. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:12 PM
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Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:58 PM
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Is this a common thing? I honestly can’t imagine why someone would withhold a certain sex act from their current partner knowing that they enjoyed it with a previous partner. So bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:56 PM
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Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:53 PM
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This was my thought. Why on Earth would we withhold it if we enjoyed it in the past??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:52 PM
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I agree that sex is one of the most important parts of a relationship! There have even been a few times throughout our relationship—e.g., financial hardship, early years with babies—where I’ve felt that physical intimacy was the primary factor sustaining our bond and maintaining our sanity. That said, the idea of “owing” sex acts as some kind of duty doesn’t sit well with me. Sounds mostly reasonable. What if you tried something with your ex and didn't enjoy it, but your husband really wanted to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:35 PM
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This is an interesting question. I think it depends on what you think “better treatment” means. To me, giving “my best” to someone has absolutely nothing to do with sex. It is a combination of respect and patience and compromise and energy. I’ve tried to give my best in every relationship. That said, with regard to sex, I think I’d be willing to try pretty much anything with my husband, as long as it wasn’t legitimately physically dangerous or certain disrespectful sorts of humiliation. If I enj…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:53 PM
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Yes, I agree. The only situation where “second choice” would be appropriate language would be if both men literally asked her out at the same time and she originally rejected you for boyfriend 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:27 PM
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It’s not like you knew all possible partners from the start, chose boyfriend 1 and then settled for boyfriend 2. Typically, dating reveals that you were incompatible with boyfriend 1 and eventually you meet boyfriend 2 and choose him over boyfriend 1. Boyfriend 2 is your first choice—just not chronologically first.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:20 PM
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Imagine you are walking to the store, and a wild driver races down the road, drives up onto the sidewalk, and runs you over. Would you consider yourself accountable because you put yourself in that predicament in the first place? Is it partly your fault? Are you partly responsible for the harmful outcome because you chose to walk on that sidewalk? There is risk associated with every possible action you can take. Your framework requires that people avoid normal human experiences because of the po…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:06 PM
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The core problem with your post is that it repeatedly shifts blame AWAY from the person committing the harmful act and TOWARD the person who was harmed by it. That is the definition of victim blaming. There is nothing wrong with choosing to attend a frat party. There is something wrong with assaulting someone you see at a frat party. The woman did not cause harm by attending. The man caused harm by assaulting her. If a man cheats on his wife and gets caught, is he not partly the cause of his own…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:45 PM
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I'd say the relevance is that, from their perspective, they may be using slang, not "offensive slang." It is always possible that someone, somewhere, would find it offensive, but that doesnt make user's aware of it, user's convinced of it, or that someone any more correct. This circles back to the absence of emotional intelligence that I mentioned previously. Emotionally intelligent people consider the impact of their language on the feelings of their audience. Yes, but has it? Did society writ …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:15 AM
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Young people tend to use slang more, regardless of whether it is abrasive or offensive. Whether the use of offensive slang is part of a broader youth “slang culture” or not isn’t really relevant. It doesn’t make the language less offensive. It doesn’t address the issue at all. But, of course, "abrasive" and "offensive" are subjective qualities. Labeling them such only privileges your perspective over theirs. It doesn't make an argument for why it should be so. Subjective qualities aren’t inheren…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:16 PM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:51 PM
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i really don’t understand your point Do you understand that the phrases “banged”, “smashed”, “destroyed”, “tore up” and “rearranged her guts” are violent in nature? Seems like you’re being deliberately obtuse here. mutual means acknowledging participating parties if i say i fucked a woman i’m acknowledging that someone other than me is apart of the experience and situation I suspect you use this kind of language because you’re embarrassed to acknowledge that sex and intimacy actually make you vu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:48 PM
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I’m well aware that extremely young people tend to choose abrasive language as a means of attracting attention. I think it reflects immaturity and lack of emotional intelligence. If they are interested in personal growth, they will consider my argument. Scolding probably won’t help, because the same people tend to maintain the opinion that they know everything (though they rigidly deny feeling this way, they consistently behave like it). That said, I’m not going to presume that people I meet hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:04 PM
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so what is your position that women and their ways of doing and seeing and processing things is superior? Of course not. This is a ridiculous over generalization. A more accurate statement would be that I think it’s better to discuss sex without degrading women. I think the ability to acknowledge mutual connection and intimacy indicates respect for your partner, while phrases like “I hit that” indicate that you were using your partner for her sexual utility. In my opinion, the former is better. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 05:27 PM
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Yuck. Those women need to be scolded too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 05:06 PM
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This is a wild argument. I hate to break it to you, but some perspectives are superior over others. Some beliefs are true, and some are false. Some language is morally corrupt and some is fairly neutral. They are not all equally valid. As such, there will be times when it is necessary for every person, yourself included, to re-evaluate their own perspectives. Have you considered the possibility that your tendency to associate sex with violence against women is not positive or neutral?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:49 PM
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This. I think this is probably closer to the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:29 PM
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I’m sorry that your sexual experiences are so one-sided. I tend to actively participate in mine. The problem with your language is that we presume it reflects your experience. When it is violent and humiliating toward the woman, without any trace of intimacy or mutual enjoyment or even acknowledging her as an active participant, it seems clear that you view your partner as consumable and discardable. Why would you be proud to “destroy” her or “tear her up”?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:26 PM
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On the other hand, women tend to use language such as “we had sex” or “we slept together” which treats the experience as mutual and doesn’t suggest that anyone was humiliated or hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:27 PM
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Women tend to say “we had sex” or “we slept together” rather than “he fucked me”. I agree that you hear it occasionally from women but it is much less common.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:19 PM
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I think anyone, male or female, is too “picky” if they expect their partner to be perfect, and too superficial if they ignore/overlook major compatibility factors such as shared values, interests, humor, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 11:17 PM
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I’m curious about what you mean by this. I’m not saying you’re wrong—as I agree that there seems to be evidence of surprising degrees of entitlement these days, particularly among young adults—but to be perfectly honest, I don’t personally consider myself entitled and I’m curious if you disagree. I recognize that this is anecdotal, but I think my female friends are similar. What specific social problems do you link to female entitlement, and how?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:21 AM
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The mainstream message of modern “fourth wave” feminism is supposed to be an effort to combat sexual harassment/assault and promote equality in power structures. In effort to promote these goals, influencers have chosen varying paths to spread this message. In effort to empower women, a lot of the messaging has focused on self esteem issues. You may not believe it, but I don’t think I’ve ever met a woman who doesn’t have serious deep-rooted self esteem issues. While I agree that this would be be…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:43 AM
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Feminists who scream “kill all men” ARE guilty of hate speech… The women you are talking about represent a sick minority of women. That is not the mainstream feminist POV.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:26 AM
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This is a fascinating perspective. Thank you for sharing. I’m glad that TRP helped you to put yourself first. I believe that the changes you experienced are reminiscent of the goals promoted by feminists for women. It’s often misinterpreted as promoting hate for men, but really, the goal is to help women learn to be happy with themselves first rather than relying on someone else for validation, comfort and safety. It requires the ability to walk away, which requires a degree of independence that…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:56 AM
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So true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:25 AM
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I strongly recommend you take a formal logic class. It could change your life. Your argument is neither valid or sound because the conclusion doesn’t logically follow. You srgue that because childbirth causes vaginal damage, therefore intercourse must cause vaginal damage. This is an invalid inference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:31 AM
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You would be wrong. The inside of the mouth is not skin, it is mucus membrane.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:50 AM
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Human vaginas and penises are perfectly capable of having sex multiple times a day without needing a day or two to recover. In my experience, uncut men are more likely to have trouble with sex because their anatomy can result in a painful feeling when the foreskin peels back over the head of the penis. Stretch receptors are not the primary source of pleasure for males or for females during sex. Both genders experience pleasure as a result of activation of touch receptors and free nerve endings.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:47 AM
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No, there is no skin inside the vagina. It’s purely mucus membrane. Similarly, the clitoral hood, glans, and nerve endings are neither made of or covered in skin—they are made of a thin layer of squamous mucosa. They are similar to the inside of your mouth. I don’t know what you are attempting to teach me with this model of the internal clitoris, but I strongly suggest you take a different approach to learning these things, as yours seems extremely unreliable and loaded with misinformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:39 AM
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That is not a vagina. There is no skin inside a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:08 AM
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No, that isn’t what this logically means.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:06 AM
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The majority of women don’t care one bit how big your fucking penis is. They do care, however, if you’re obsessed with your own perceived shortcomings, wallowing in self pity, or somehow convinced that you’re incapable of sexually pleasing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:58 AM
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Why would I lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:52 AM
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I absolutely did marry my husband because I love him. He’s Chad to me. I’m sorry for you that you don’t know what that feels like, but it’s incredibly powerful and life changing and real.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:52 AM
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Stop projecting your distorted worldview on all women. I married my husband because I love and respect him and I enjoy experiencing life with him. We have compatible values, humor and interests. We’re broke as a joke, but we have an amazing life, we’ve built an amazing family, and the more I know him, the more I love him. He gets sexier every day. Seek therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:25 AM
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I’ve been with bigger men and it limits the positions that are comfortable. In my experience about average size is what actually hits the g-spot. Genuinely do not want bigger. I agree I prefer penetration over some tongue though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:26 AM
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Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:15 AM
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Women shame men for being small because we know how sensitive you are about this topic. Not because we actually care. I guess a micropenis might not be as instantly pleasureable, but even then, there’s plenty the guy could do to get me off. Guys are seriously the only ones who care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:20 AM
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This is faulty logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:08 AM
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Stretching skin is not the same as stretching smooth muscle. You don’t know what a vagina feels like by using your mirror neurons. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:04 AM
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That sounds awful to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:59 AM
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You’d have better luck with women if you actually listened to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:57 AM
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Nope. Shefik is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:55 AM
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1) Penetration does not damage the vagina or vulva. This equipment is elastic and self-lubricating to the extent that it can accommodate childbirth. 2) Sexual pleasure is not the goal of feminism. 3) Oral sex is not the primary source of pleasure for women. 4) Good luck “applying vaginal lubrication by hand”. What world do you live in? 5) Cut penises slide in without issue. 6) Women are not trying to claim that sex is painless in effort to fit in with men. It may feel uncomfortable the first tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:34 AM
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Different women have different preferences. And MEN are the ones obsessed with penis size, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:19 AM
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Depends on the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:14 AM
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You’re trying to “evaluate” people based on what they have to offer. In real economics, this is completely irrelevant. If people are only willing to pay $1000 to buy a specific car, the actual value of that car is only $1000–no matter how incredible the features are. That is the definition of its value.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 04:25 PM
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You think anyone enters into a marriage with the expectation that it will become a dead bedroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:15 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:26 PM
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Intention matters. If the man has no plan to pursue anything beyond sex, but disingenuously leads a woman to believe that they are mutually interested in a real relationship, he has absolutely used her for sex. Sometimes sex is just for temporary pleasure, and sometimes it is an intimate part of building a relationship. Some women are only interested in the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:46 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:35 PM
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Equally ridiculous claim
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:30 PM
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If she was only interested in having sex with a person who was committed to her, and he misrepresented his commitment, he used her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:13 PM
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Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 05:35 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 05:33 PM
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Wow—that law sounds absolutely horrifying. You are correct, I misunderstood your first post. Thank you for explaining. I am sorry to hear that this law exists and also that it is abused so rampantly. I don’t know the solution to this issue. I’d like to think that we should believe women when they say that they have experienced sexual harassment. Of course, this approach gives women the ability to maliciously destroy a man’s life just by lying, and that’s obviously unacceptable and disgusting. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:36 PM
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Marital rape is not consensual sex. I’ve never been to India, and frankly, I’ve never had a poor opinion of the country or its people. That said, if you consider most basic broad measures of prosperity (education, economic opportunity, safety, legal protections), women in the U.S. fare significantly better overall than women in India.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:03 PM
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That sounds the opposite of attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:38 PM
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For me, getting married was a means of creating an anthropological record that my husband is my person. My long-term companion through life. My emotional anchor. We got married at a courthouse in Memphis on a Wednesday morning. I was happy to change my name (or he could have done the same) so that our new family all shared the same last name. We have an amazing, stable household and my husband takes great care of me. I do the cooking and shopping and he does the dishes and laundry. I wouldn’t tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:42 PM
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An interesting perspective. I’m inclined to agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:03 PM
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I don’t have sex with men simply because they are physically attractive to me. There must also be chemistry. I do not express interest unless both are present. Does that explain it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:47 PM
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That’s ridiculous. I’m extremely attracted to my husband. Sometimes we clean the bathroom together—not very arousing—does that mean I just don’t like him??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:33 PM
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Women absolutely CAN do those jobs. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 12:50 AM
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Nailed it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:06 PM
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Abortion double standard? What is the double standard? And where do you live that women and men are treated differently with regard to adoption and safe haven access?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:33 PM
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Women get the short end of the stick when it comes to reproductive biology. Let’s start with the positive pregnancy test: Let’s assume she chooses to keep the baby. Even today, there are serious risks of morbidity and mortality associated with pregnancy and childbirth. It starts with cold-turkey quitting the alcohol—even one drink with friends is off limits. The fetus controls your health and dietary choices for 40 weeks…prescription vitamins, morning sickness, weight gain…then there’s fun stuff…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:27 PM
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Child support is required by both sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:36 PM
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I suspect that linking to the Google search causes my instance of Google to perform the same search rather than replicating your search results. Even so, why would you only include males age 18-24 in the stat? Is that the only age that matters?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:36 PM
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Your link does not support the 30% stat
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:32 PM
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My comment explained to you how biases work and how people categorise groups of people. Your comment did nothing to address bias. If your goal was to acknowledge the bias of the men in question, you should have probably mentioned their bias. And how what you're whining about is beyond trivial, particularly as, as we've established, men have a strong out-group preference, while women have a strong in-group preference-- which means you benefit, overall, hugely. While men suffer, hugely. Can you ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:25 AM
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I’m still waiting for an example of a case where a woman won a lawsuit against a man for something “trivial.” If you honestly think that sexual harassment should be acceptable in a professional setting, you are a seriously sick person. Is it especially difficult for you to treat women with respect? Yes, thanks for giving an illustration of how women abuse and manipulate men-- with fictional and hysterical victimhood. If she's crying, she's lying. Please help me understand how my words were abusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:50 PM
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Your comment implied that it is acceptable for men to mansplain in IT because the field is dominated by men and was invented by men. Did you not intend to imply this? And no, I don’t want these men to “protect me” or “do the heavy lifting” AT ALL. Frankly, these men could not handle the “heavy lifting” my role requires. You can claim that I’m a “bad boss” until your face hurts; it still won’t make it true. There is nothing wrong with expecting professional conduct and respect from my reports. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:37 PM
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If you honestly think that sexual harassment should be acceptable in a professional setting, you are a seriously sick person. Is it especially difficult for you to treat women with respect? Would you feel comfortable and safe sending your wife and daughter to a workplace without such policies? These policies are not designed to “control men”; they are designed to protect the entire workforce. Please show me an example of a man actually losing a lawsuit for something trivial.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:16 PM
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Sorry, are you upset because there are policies preventing all employees from engaging in sexual harassment?? You think that people should be allowed to sexually harass their colleagues?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 04:56 PM
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The fact that IT is a male-dominated field invented by men does not mean that women cannot be experts. Sorry, but if you just graduated college, it’s ignorant to treat your boss’s boss’s boss like they’re the ones who are new to the field. I don’t need or want them to risk their lives to protect me; I want them to do the job they signed up for. I have no doubt that womansplaining exists, and it is equally unforgivable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 04:53 PM
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I’m a woman who has worked for decades in IT. Mansplaining is very real and I deal with it almost daily. Men who are brand new to the field will assume I don’t understand basic concepts even when they’re well aware of my background. Other women have no problem acknowledging my competence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:05 PM
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Technique matters way way more than looks
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:15 AM
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Exactly my experience as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:14 AM
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Sounds like you acknowledge that something else besides looks can attract women…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 08:38 PM
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You are assuming that looks are the only thing that attracts women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 06:40 PM
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There is a difference between disgust and lack of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 03:30 AM
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I don’t know what you are trying to suggest, but I was just joking. My relationships have been meaningful and fulfilling. Absolutely zero regrets.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 02:19 AM
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Some were only a couple months, some were several years, and sometimes I was single, but yes, that’s the average. And even after 12 years of a healthy marriage, I’d say I am still deeply damaged 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 02:04 AM
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Yes. From ages 17-28 when I got married.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 01:06 AM
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N=10. I have only ever had sex within an exclusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 11:56 PM
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Excellent post
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:01 PM
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I think women have always had higher standards than men…I don’t think it’s anything new
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:44 AM
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It’s NOT a large part of society. It’s rage bait for lonely men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:46 AM
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You realize that even if you see 10000 similar videos, it still isn’t “most women”, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:39 AM
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You’re missing the point. Most women don’t assume that dating is easy for men. But if you engage with that kind of content on TikTok, it gets pushed to the top of your feed and gives you the impression that it’s a popular belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:15 AM
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What problem is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:50 PM
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Yea? Women don’t like you, therefore women don’t like any men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:13 PM
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This! Stop engaging with the bullshit and you stop seeing it. This garbage is literally never in my feeds.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:36 PM
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I don’t think it’s at all common for women to feel actual disgust at shorter men…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 12:44 AM
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Average is another word for arithmetic mean. Nobody uses this word to describe median or midpoint, except in error. Furthermore, there’s no reason to believe that “attractiveness” is normally distributed, let alone perfectly symmetrical (IQ data is similarly NOT symmetrical, FYI). You are the confused party in this conversation, not me and not women. Even when you compare average vs median 80% of men being below average is statistically impossible. Here’s an example for you: I rank ten men on a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:34 AM
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The scale of the dataset tells you nothing about the average. You could have a dataset from 0 to 100 with an average of 3 or 5 or 6.6667 or 50 or even 100. It depends on the actual values in the dataset. Average (arithmetic mean) is calculated by finding the sum of the numbers in the dataset and dividing by the count of the numbers in the dataset. For example, if I’m ranking ten men on a scale of 1-10, and I give them the following values: 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,10,10 the sum is 44 the count is 10 (n) …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:04 AM
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Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:45 AM
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No, average is not 50%
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:32 AM
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Lol. I’m a professional data scientist; I do this for a living. You’re thinking of “median” not average.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:28 AM
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Do you have some reason to believe this should be impossible? Sounds like you’re the one who doesn’t understand statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:24 AM
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Because men are the sole arbiter of how attractive other men are?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:33 PM
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Isn’t this what you’ve always dreamed of??!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:39 PM
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This is a solid response!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:38 PM
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I get it, and you’re right: I’m just anecdata. But just as your personal experience has painted your worldview, mine has painted my worldview. It simply makes it difficult for me to relate. I don’t understand the disgust factor that men seem to associate with high body count. It seems awfully judgmental especially considering the degree of nuance that can be involved in creating a person’s sexual history.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 01:17 PM
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Idk I’ve never personally been into tall guys, but of course I have my own preferences. I don’t think it’s wrong to consider someone’s past when evaluating them as dating material. I just find the body count criterion difficult to relate to because I don’t think it’s a good proxy for loyalty. I have a “high body count” (10) and never had a casual hookup or cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 01:09 PM
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What do you think is the reason for disgust/ick?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 12:54 PM
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Well I’ll take that haha thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:56 AM
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What makes you think no man wants me?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 02:39 AM
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Well, work needs to be done on both ends if we’re this far from understanding each other. I don’t think it’s unreasonable that women hear the words “I don’t date sluts” without deducing the man’s inner turmoil. The message isn’t exactly clear in its original form, and the words are distractingly hostile. And as for the future president: I would argue that women reacting to intonation is a strength, not a weakness. There is additional information provided in a person’s tone, and it would be negli…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 02:38 AM
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Lol and you think some systemic problem is the reason you can’t get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 01:20 AM
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I don’t know. I recognize that culture isn’t exactly forgiving of men with insecurities, so I don’t actually blame men for this. I’m just grateful someone helped me understand the body count issue from a perspective that makes sense to me. I’m no mind reader. This made me sympathetic rather than annoyed at guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:18 PM
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I agree that guys should be encouraged to express their insecurities. It’s fine by me if you are repulsed by my body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:13 PM
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I have a body count of 10 and have been heavily judged for it. I have never had casual sex at all. I lost my virginity at 17 after dating for three years. We broke up at 18. Between 18 and 28 I had sex with 9 men, the last who I married. That’s over a year for each guy. And by body count standards, I’m a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:44 PM
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This is a far more nuanced and reasonable description of men’s thoughts. If a man came forth with these thoughts, I would be unlikely to judge them for their concerns. Instead, they write off women as sluts and refuse to acknowledge insecurity as a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:38 PM
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Past “promiscuity” doesn’t indicate infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:35 PM
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No set time period. That’s very strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:04 PM
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I agree that females have certain privileges over men. Likewise, men have some privileges over women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 08:31 PM
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Nope. Which is why I don’t claim to be capable of comparing the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:43 AM
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If one man rates Taylor at 9/10 and another rates her as 10/10, who is objectively correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 12:23 AM
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None? I’ve also never seen any woman say that so I’m not sure what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:41 PM
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Objective (adj.): Existing independently of personal feelings, perceptions, beliefs, or preferences; observer-independent and verifiable by consistent measurement regardless of who observes it. The simple fact that men rate other men higher than women rate men is sufficient evidence that beauty is not objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:40 PM
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5/10 is average and covers the most people. If it isn't then ur attractiveness scale is useless and not viable. If you consider most people to be below 5/10 your placing the 5 in the wrong place You’re still forcing the data into a normal distribution. Imagine, for the sake of theory, that 90% of men were severely disfigured and barely recognizable as humans. Would you still expect them to be rated as 5/10? But then why aren't women overwhelmingly rated as ugly by men? Who are the women that hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:38 PM
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It’s still dependent on human perception and therefore subjective. Different individuals will find different people more or less attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:07 PM
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Patterns in attractiveness do t make beauty objective lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:03 PM
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There's no natural law requiring anything to be a part of > any manmade concept. Now use your brain and think why it's stupid to point out Actually, there are a good number of naturally occurring metrics that do tend toward a normal distribution. Human height, for instance. Why is it stupid to point out that subjective attractiveness might not be such a metric? (I’d also argue that distributions were discovered rather than manmade, but that’s a whole separate philosophy). Then the average flower…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:48 PM
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Can you show me these data?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:31 PM
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Beauty is subjective. Apples and oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:30 PM
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But you argue women in general don’t agree with these general guidelines, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:24 PM
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I’d be happy to look up your sources. I’m not going to assume they exist though. That’s ridiculous and suggests that your claims should not be trusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:23 PM
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That’s not true. There’s no natural law requiring that attractiveness falls on a normal Gaussian distribution. Just as I can go to a flower store and it’s possible that over half are wilted, it’s possible for over half of men to be below a 5/10 on the attractiveness scale. I’m not saying that’s true—I honestly don’t know—but it’s absolutely possible
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:12 PM
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Actually, yes. Heterosexual/bisexual women and homosexual/bisexual men should be trusted to provide the rating. The reciprocal applies for rating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:09 PM
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The people making these arguments are notoriously poor data analysts. I’m not going to search for data that might not even exist. I’ll just continue to believe that you’re wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:06 PM
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Please show me this legion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:00 PM
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Beauty is subjective. The customer should get to determine the market value. For heterosexuals, men get to rate women, and women get to rate men. It doesn’t matter if you think the guy is “average”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:58 PM
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You seem to have special knowledge here. Have you experienced life both as a hetero female and a heterosexual male?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:53 PM
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Side note: why do MEN get to decide which man is “average”?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:52 PM
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So you don’t have sources 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:50 PM
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