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Reading audiobooks is a really good idea, this may be an extremely well-trodden suggestion but see if you can get your hands on anything related to Greek stoic philosophy--Marcus Aurelius is the go-to, but Seneca ia closer to the origin. That stuff really helped me.
/r/ExRedPill23/04/26 05:39 AM
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If you find the "read feminist theory" advice trite and tiresome, maybe try this: 1: The first thing to realize is, if you're living in the West, women have very little direct power to hurt you. If you don't want to show up on Are We Dating The Same Guy or Tea or whatever, don't date women, and don't bother with the dating scene. Focus on your own hobbies and interests rather than women. 2: I know the above seems extreme: forgoing dating entirely, you might say, I need sex and affection and not …
/r/ExRedPill23/04/26 02:14 AM
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Forgive me for soapboxing but great minds think alike, this is exactly the sort of reasoning that partially got me out of that scene. I used to look at communities like the "MGTOW" guys but it occurred to me: they went on and on about how awful women were, yet women were all they talked about, like "women bad" threads all had 10000 posts but fishing/hobby/etc threads were lucky to break 500. If women actually were so awful, why spend so much time thinking and above all incessantly complaining ab…
/r/ExRedPill07/04/26 07:03 PM
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I mean, a lot of redpill guys, if not most, just genuinely hate women. Its not just the incels, a lot of "sexually successful" ones think Sodini and Rodgers and other mass shooters are heroes. Yet another reason I got out of that scene.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 04:37 PM
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A very long essay, but you might find it useful: https://gunlord500.wordpress.com/2021/07/30/i-tried-to-be-a-misogynist-full-essay/
/r/ExRedPill23/03/26 12:18 AM
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Redpill involves a lot more bitterness and resentment, typically focused on blaming feminism for all one's woes. If you've taken a more stoic approach you're already better off lol.
/r/ExRedPill16/02/26 04:15 PM
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Because I want to have a partner and feel chosen. That’s all. I want to have a loving partner and have a family. I want to feel like I also am worthy of love Everyone's worthy of love of some sort, but not necessarily sexual love. If you're short or physically unattractive, then you're just not gonna get that sort of love--and this is a misfortune shared by many others, including many women who are just ugly or deformed in other ways. But what you can get is love from a community, respect from p…
/r/ExRedPill16/02/26 04:09 PM
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If you have millions, why even care about women at all? So they don't want to have sex with you, might even hold you in contempt. So what? Your life is so good you don't even have to hate them back. Enjoy your money as a wealthy bachelor. Hang out with other respectable guys, do stuff like yachting or whatever, and if sexual validation is so important, get an escort or head on over to Nevada for one of the safe legal brothels there (you can certainly afford it). Life is too good and too short to…
/r/ExRedPill16/02/26 03:59 PM
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I'm not gonna say you're a bad person for feeling this way, or that you should just interact with women more. Seeing more people in general (not just women, in fact) is helpful in the long run, but where you are now, which is where I used to be a while back, here's my advice: Think about the logical conclusions of your ideology and critically examine it. Let's say women in general are misandrist. So what? I mean, how would that provide any positive impetus to action (not necessarily just "how wo…
/r/ExRedPill16/01/26 04:48 AM
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Yeah, well, maybe the spanish-speaking "androsphere" is different, though I'm not exactly willing to put much money on it. But as I'm obviously not in the Spanish language sphere I was concentrating on the English sections of those places. I suppose we'll have to see if things are much different in other parts of the world.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/21 11:18 AM
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I've never seen you before and judging by your account nobody else has either, I was just having a chuckle at your name. But whatever, again, best of luck to you.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/21 07:45 AM
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Good luck, but no offense, I get the distinct feeling your attempts at refutation will end up proving its points, lol.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/21 07:41 AM
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Hey guys. Sorry if this is a little too indulgent, but I've finally gotten out the long essay I've always said I wanted to write about how I eventually left the manosphere/"red-pill" scene. It's super long, but I did break it up into several smaller sections which might be easier to digest, which I link in the beginning of the whole thing. This exredpill community has been a comfort to me over the years, so I hope this distillation of my experiences can help other folks with their journey out of…
/r/ExRedPill09/09/21 09:51 PM
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It's one of the big reasons I left the manosphere/red-pill scene. It's supposedly about helping men and self-improvement, but bitching all day about how everything and everyone sucks doesn't strike me as especially conducive to self-improvement.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/21 12:01 AM
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I definitely noticed it, brother. I'm with /u/dannymason , the right-wing lunacy was actually reason I dived out of that scene before I could get too involved with it--I'm definitely thankful I learned my lesson early on. As a non-white guy, it didn't take me long to figure out that no matter what the feminists did, they wouldn't be as bad as the lunatics on Roissy's blog who though Hitler was a cool guy. Once I started seeing that neo-nazi nonsense pop up more and more across the manosphere, I …
/r/ExRedPill07/07/21 08:55 AM
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Mmm...it depends. I'm much the same way as you, a few years back I paid attention to that MGTOW stuff, but left it behind when I saw how weird they were getting--aside from incessantly complaining about women, there was too much wanna-be Sodini nonsense, racist conspiracy crap, doxxing, drama, etc. But I still don't really want a relationship either, I just call myself a happy bachelor these days. From an introvert's perspective, there's not all that much to recommend a relationship. Still, ther…
/r/ExRedPill27/12/19 05:06 AM
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I'm a Becky I'm 90% sure that sub is a parody of incel/Redpill subs, or trying to "fight fire with fire" by turning it on them. In any case, though, honestly? Even if women in general really were like this, that wouldn't mean TRP or MGTOW would be right. The rational response would be, "well, I'm just not going to bother with dating and relationships with women and focus on my hobbies and male friends." No need to give yourself a silly acronym and hang around guys like that trashbag dude.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/19 10:44 PM
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Glad to help man. I've been doing a lot of reading on the MGTOW stuff over the years, one thing that helped me get out of it was reading the extent to which its own adherents eventually were alienated by it, so it was a lot harder to dismiss them as 'manginas' or the sort of shaming language manospherians often use. Another good article you might like, I've got a few more: http://web.archive.org/web/20130915101852/http://stagedreality.wordpress.com/2013/08/10/confessions-of-an-ex-freedom-porn-st…
/r/ExRedPill18/06/19 07:45 AM
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"MGTOW" in the sense of 'focus on yourself, don't care about women so much' is fine. But 'mgtow' in the sense of all those 'levels of mgtow' things and the constant posting of cheating wives, awalt, and so on is just another form of obssession. This is the best post on MGTOW I've ever read, and it was written by one of the 'original' MGTOW, pook: http://archive.is/e5JsT
/r/ExRedPill18/06/19 03:57 AM
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Honestly, observing TRPers themselves. As I always say, I used to buy into some of their stuff when I was younger, but I started paying close attention and noticed how dumb and crazy most of their other beliefs were. As I mentioned recently to a fellow on Twitter, misogynists tended to believe in a bunch of other weird things as well, almost invariably inconsistent with each other--lunatic atheists who thought Christianity was for "cucks" arguing against Christian Taliban and wanna-be ISIS membe…
/r/ExRedPill06/01/19 07:04 AM
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How did you get out? What experiences caused you to doubt the philosophy? Long story short, as I've mentioned before, watching the incessant backbiting and drama in manosphere communities convinced me it wouldn't be wise to listen to them. Men are supposed to be cool, rational, and cooperative as long as we're not manipulated by evil women (and/or (((Jews))) ) according to the manosphere. So then why did Nacho Vidal blow up his own MGTOW forums? Why was Mark Minter proven to be a loser phony? Wh…
/r/ExRedPill24/12/18 05:06 AM
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Yeah, I know how you feel--I fell for that "red-pill" crap pretty hard early on in life too. But at least you got out of it, and that's the most important thing. Lotta kooks are still in that RP stuff, so you're further ahead than they are at least.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/18 01:48 AM
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Just because people who browse/use r.MGTOW doesn't mean they cannot comment on other things in other subreddits. Sometimes there is quite a bit of relevancy to MGTOW in the topics they post in, so oftentimes, it's hardly "being nuisances". Yeah, I've seen this before--I know you guys have an incredibly narrow definition of "being nuisances" when it comes to yourselves, and a hugely expansive one when it comes to others. In that case, I'll just remind you of my piece of friendly advice--if you do…
/r/ExRedPill18/11/18 08:55 AM
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Yet you guys frequently vote and comment in our threads, but yeah, sure. Report it to the TBP mods then. Hell, plenty of us regular users remind the others to use np links or archive.is rather than directly touching any of your fora. You could also always make your subreddits, forums, etc. private and save yourselves the trouble. We don't care about women as in we don't care about their well-being. We care that they vote in policies that disenfranchise or parasitically harm men. So you actually …
/r/ExRedPill18/11/18 08:20 AM
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you guys go out of your way to trigger yourselves and brigade us We (referring to TBP--you're in exTRP, if you hadn't noticed) have rules against brigading, actually. Check the sidebar of that sub. If you mean talking about MGTOW in general, well, you'll notice we have no overarching ideology and never claimed to not care about anything the way you cats incessantly and hypocritically claim not to care about women. A more serious answer, though: We talk about MGTOWs for the same reason you say yo…
/r/ExRedPill16/11/18 06:22 AM
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mgtow books There are a ton of those, most of which are markedly low quality. Just looking up the term on amazon.com, there's stuff like "MGTOW building wealth and power!" "male disposability ends here!" MGTOW decals, MGTOW T-shirts, and all that crap. CS MGTOW was doxed by a black woman who hated black men. According to the guys on /r/mgtow, he was doxed by Messenger Rising. http://archive.is/Fj1Xv "Thanks bro, I'm just keen for messenger and the street crew he is forming not to dox me, I stupi…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/18 02:33 PM
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Good point.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/18 07:02 PM
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Yeah, agreed, especially about "angry and miserable in general" guys. As I often say, and as folks like Pook have pointed out, one huge problem with MGTOW is that its adherents often hate everything, not just women. I've seen weird-ass screeds on religion, politics, race stuff, just all sorts of ridiculousness on MGTOW.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/18 07:02 PM
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Yeah, that's a great point. One thing that helped me get out of MGTOW myself was interaction with older guys not part of that community, who gave me a lot of insight and wisdom I didn't really see in MGTOW places.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/18 07:00 PM
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Thanks for the input, friend. Yeah, it seems like you've been through some tough experiences with women, but those gave you insight into yourself in the end and you eventually improved in such a way as to avoid those unhealthy situations. That's a lot more introspective than the kind of resentment MGTOW breeds, which means it's better for you in the long run. Glad to hear you got out of that scene.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/18 07:00 PM
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You could give it a look if you can find it for free someplace, I wouldn't recommend paying for it. But while it has some good ideas here and there--don't make your life revolve around women, focus on self-improvement, and so on--much of it is just typical hyperbolic manosphere bellyaching. Take it with a healthy grain of salt.
/r/ExRedPill17/12/17 04:49 AM
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Some MGTOW ideas are good--being single is alright, don't make women the center of your universe, don't be a doormat, and cultivate your own interests and hobbies. There are a handful of self-proclaimed MGTOWs who go that tack. Unfortunately, most of the guys under that moniker are hateful and crazy. It sucks that your ex treated you that way, she sounds like a horrible person. But think about this: What's the best way of getting over her and moving on? Your hate and rage is understandable, but …
/r/ExRedPill28/11/17 11:40 AM
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How long have you been subscribing to MGTOW? One thing that weaned me off that manosphere stuff real quick was finding out their "gurus" tended to look like this: http://imgur.com/a/zrbjQ Yeah, there are more critiques I could give of their ideology, but consider the fact that both MGTOWs and TRP base much of their relationship advice on the idea that they've been successful with women. Does the guy in the picture look successful in any sense to you? Do you really want to make important life dec…
/r/ExRedPill27/04/17 03:13 PM
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Very interesting interview.
/r/ExRedPill01/03/17 01:01 AM
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Yeah, these are some great points. It's also something people note about "Men Going Their Own way"--they claim to be "independent" of women, but spend all day complaining about women. It's ridiculous.
/r/ExRedPill09/01/17 04:02 PM
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Interesting thoughts, friend. Yeah, that scene is toxic. It's definitely nice to see someone who moved on from MGTOW specifically though, that's an extremely weird, toxic subgroup even within the greater "manosphere."
/r/ExRedPill10/12/16 01:14 AM
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I'd really appreciate seeing that article. Although I didn't spend as much time in the Red-Pill scene as you did, I think my experiences might be a little similar.
/r/ExRedPill08/12/16 01:25 PM
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Going off of what /u/adamdesautel said, I recommend doing some more research on gender and IQ. There's some strange stuff going on there that's more complex than it seems. See Thomas Sowell's 1995 review of The Bell Curve. The citation for it is: Vol. 28, American Spectator, 02-01-1995, pp 32. It's hard to find, but you can find a relevant quote here: https://benjamindavidsteele.wordpress.com/2014/08/09/unseen-influences-race-gender-and-twins/ "[There is] a remarkable phenomenon commented on in …
/r/ExRedPill02/12/16 01:08 PM
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Something that helped break the TRP mindset for me is realizing a lot of their claims for women can be applied to them men. Same here, friend. One thing that really got me to break away from the TRP mindset is watching so many red-pillers act even more bitchy and dramatic than any women I'd ever known.
/r/ExRedPill02/12/16 12:40 PM
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It is possible to persuade a predominantly alpha man to become beta for a while for mutual benefit and it is also possible to teach a beta to lead effectively when needed. Humans are complex. This over simplification of alpha and beta is just an illustration of the differences, not a religious dogma. It is also not a prescription for male behaviour. Neither alpha nor beta is always the best choice for behaviour. Sometimes Alpha behaviour is better and sometimes beta behaviour is better. It sound…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/16 07:43 PM
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Hmm, good questions. One way to think of it--and in fact, this is part of how I jettisoned TRP beliefs--is that their attitudes towards 'alphas' and 'betas' are almost schizophrenic. A lot of these guys will say that men should be alpha...but they also say that alphas are low IQ violent thugs and that "civilization was built on the backs of betas!" So how can both things be true at the same time? How can TRPers ask other men to emulate alphas and then turn around and say alphas are stupid and ev…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/16 04:49 AM
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To me, the members seem permanently angry with women, all women, AWALT. That pretty much sums up TRP, really. Anybody who's actually out of any kind of anger phase doesn't need to bitch about women 24/7.
/r/ExRedPill28/09/16 01:45 PM
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Glad to see you got out of that scene, brother. I've gotten the same impression too, for all the extent those TRPers claim to be more "masculine" than everybody else, they sure have a flair for the dramatic.
/r/ExRedPill08/07/16 03:24 AM
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All in a day's work, brother.
/r/ExRedPill01/07/16 06:47 AM
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Sluts are great, but if you like them, I don't see why you'd be anti-feminist. As I've said before, I've plenty of issues with feminism (lotta crazies in that scene, like the TERFs), but in practical terms it's easier to get laid in "feminist dystopias" than it is in "proud patriarchies." Look at "red-pill paradises" like Saudi Arabia, where women are covered head to toe and porn is illegal. Doesn't sound like much fun for straight men to me.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/16 06:37 AM
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I'm not against feminism anymore, and don't dislike feminists anymore, but still wouldn't call myself a feminist. I'm the exact same, actually. I have a dim view of feminism and think its approach to a lot of social issues is wrongheaded. But spending time watching red-pillers has convinced me that feminists are by far the lesser of two evils. For all their talk about "killing all men," the only feminist spree shooter I can think of is Valerie Solanas. Misogynists, on the other hand, have Marc L…
/r/ExRedPill27/05/16 02:08 AM
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MGTOW is one of those "sounds good in theory, absolutely horrible in practice" sorts of things. I'm happy being single and have absolutely no desire for a relationship, much less marriage. You'd think the MGTOW philosophy would appeal to me, and initially it did, a few years back. When I did some more research, however, it turned out the whole scene was filled with all kinds of weird nonsense I wanted nothing to do with. As a happy bachelor, I see absolutely no reason to associate myself with pe…
/r/ExRedPill04/04/16 05:38 AM
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Glad to hear you're leaving that scene behind you, and glad to have you here, friend! As I was just saying in another thread, it's always good to have this capacity for self-reflection.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/16 08:23 PM
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Pretty sure that's the book of pook guy, yeah.
/r/ExRedPill26/02/16 08:06 AM
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whereas feminism is highly popular, with a lot of influence and power, filtering through into mainstream society. I'd argue it's losing most of its influence and popularity. Nowadays when most people hear the word "feminist" they think of some tumblr user with a weird hair color. In terms of video game censorship, the censors themselves are getting BTFO by modmakers and other people (there's already a good patch out for the "censored" Fire Emblem game). Feminism seems to be on the decline. Now, …
/r/ExRedPill25/02/16 10:55 PM
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If they got their way completely we would live in a kind of puritan sanitized 'unoffensive' pc dystopia. Certainly shitty, but still better than TRP's dystopia. If the worst thing you can say about a dystopia is that it's sanitized and inoffensive, it's not that much of a dystopia. Oh I'm sorry, I must have been mistaken about all the people the Soviet Union, Maoist China etc killed... I'm not saying they didn't kill terrible amounts of people, I'm saying they weren't actually "feminists." Look …
/r/ExRedPill25/02/16 02:32 AM
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I was talking about the middle east not nazis. So how many people has Anita beheaded or stoned to death? So you are not bothered by the prospect of such an unacceptable loss of freedom in the name of feminism? Oh, I'm certainly bothered, but the prospect is both extremely remote and better than the alternative. A: TRP-like ideologies have gained great currency in the past and present (the American Confederacy, Nazi Germany), while no feminist government has ever been able to maintain power for a…
/r/ExRedPill25/02/16 12:40 AM
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Even if thats the case, the current threat, which is far more influential, and poisoning everything it touches, is modern feminism Do tell me how many people Anita Sarkeesian has lynched or sent to gas chambers. A lot more than that. How many more? Gimme some specific numbers. But not if it contains certain words or phrases that are in a ridiculously broad way considered 'sexist' or 'misogynistic' or 'objectifying', or anything else that would offend pc sensibilities. I guess I'd have to rely on…
/r/ExRedPill25/02/16 12:13 AM
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They are even influencing the UN to make international laws based on feminist bullshit. The UN has little power under the best of circumstances. I'm not really worried about it. Redpillers would never get power. Because people oppose them. Remember the old saying: The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. But redpillers are at the fringes and make up an absolutely tiny minority of anti-feminists. To say that the red pill is awful therefore we should support femi…
/r/ExRedPill25/02/16 12:00 AM
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What should we do, just sit there and take it Just ignore it. Dipshits have been slurring gamers since video games took off in the 80s. Now they might call you misogynists, in the 90s they called you Satanists (after Columbine). And what came of that? Nothing, videogames got bigger and more accepted than ever. I think a lot of feminists are as stupid as the soccer moms who fell for the "DOOM = SATANIC CONSPIRACY" nonsense back then, but I also think they're equally harmless in the long run. whil…
/r/ExRedPill24/02/16 11:38 PM
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Because the liberal notions of live and let live and tolerance are being eroded in favour of pc zealotry which demonizes all those who don't conform to their standards. Because they read bigotry into everything with ridiculously broad definitions while doxxing and shaming those who say the wrong heretical things. Because they've already ruined the athiesm movement and game journalism at the very least, and are in the process of trying to co-opt and ruin all nerd and geek culture. Pretty much all…
/r/ExRedPill24/02/16 08:06 PM
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I'm anti-'the-red-pill' it doesn't make me a feminist. Same here, honestly. Though I probably consider myself a 'feminist ally' ironically enough. It's nothing to do with kissing up to women or anything like that, it's pure pragmatism. Feminism has been good to guys like me. In previous eras (or in "anti-feminist" countries like Saudi Arabia that manospambots worship), I'd be expected if not forced to marry. Now, though, I can enjoy strings-free sex if I'm so inclined, or just keep to myself and…
/r/ExRedPill24/02/16 05:50 PM
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Yeah, I don't agree with all of them either, I differed with matingmarket's advocacy of PUA. It works for him and that's cool, but it's not for all guys, some of us don't really care. But yeah, you're exactly right, it's something I've heard a lot--TRP is the mirror version of radical feminists, really. Radfems rant about how men and patriarchy are the root of all evil, TRP rants about how women and matriarchy are the root of all evil, and both groups pretty much excommunicate anyone who disagre…
/r/ExRedPill24/02/16 06:16 AM
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Now that's a good question, friend. It's something I always say I'm going to write more about but never do, after I finish some stuff IRL I might get to making a larger essay up on medium or my blog or somewhere else. I'd have to think to get some harder numbers, but I'd say my journey out of MGTOW took about two years. I started seriously questioning my 'misogynistic' beliefs when I saw how crazy a lot of TRPers were. I noticed the commentariat at Roissy's becoming more and more white nationali…
/r/ExRedPill24/02/16 03:32 AM
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How did you unsee the fact that women can use you for your resources with no emotional connection? How did you unsee the fact that a woman can completely change after you marry her and if you don't like it she can report you for domestic abuse, retroactive rape, and even divorce you to take everything you have plus lifetime alimony? How were you able to trust again after reading all the horror stories. I haven't actually 'unseen' any of that, I just realized it was a vast oversimplification. Yea…
/r/ExRedPill24/02/16 03:05 AM
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These are some great resources, thanks!
/r/ExRedPill13/02/16 08:37 PM
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Glad to have you here, brother, always nice to find another man who's extricated himself from that cesspool. I can understand if you're in a bad place right now, it's always tough adjusting your beliefs and ideas, even if they're for the better. Just hang on, though. Get a good night's sleep and sober up, then you can better figure out where to go from here. And if you're as ugly as you say you are, well...it's a problem, but not an insurmountable one. Check out some of the resources on the side…
/r/ExRedPill03/02/16 11:41 AM
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women all inherently want to be housewives and mothers If that was true, you wouldn't see so many MRAs and various MGTOWs claiming women should be barred from higher education and essentially locked inside their houses all the time (which was the case in ancient Rome and Greece and is the case in more misogynist societies like the Taliban today). Why do you need so much social pressure to coerce women into doing things they supposedly want to do anyways?
/r/ExRedPill29/01/16 09:45 PM
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most of the MGTOW material in writing or video is about how to live your life well with no women in it, with a few warnings about horrible things done to this or that man by a SPECIFIC woman in a SPECIFIC situation, not generalized. http://imgur.com/JP4nbN4 The biggest redpill is to realize that women as a class are a parasitic organism This pic has been reposted for weeks, BTW, as you can see here: http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/image/BkOrr_CulU5BuYi1zhAY1g/ If you want to believe TRP and M…
/r/ExRedPill21/11/15 01:21 PM
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You have to live it to be it SexyMGTOW spent most of his time making videos about how awful women are, like most other MGTOWs, and Elliot wrote a long, whiny screed about how women are vermin because they go for the "wrong guys," which is fairly standard for TRP and TRPers (look up "women" and "maladapted" sometime). Seems like they were "living" TRP pretty well.
/r/ExRedPill21/11/15 01:01 PM
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A guy with "MGTOW" in his name isn't a part of MGTOW (which is also a flair on TRP)? OK.
/r/ExRedPill21/11/15 12:39 PM
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Plenty of what he wrote did. The whole "women need to be exterminated for holding society back" schtick could have come straight from one of SexyMGTOW's videos.
/r/ExRedPill21/11/15 12:24 PM
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Good question, friend. I've mentioned this elsewhere, but one thing that really helped me cough up the red pill was watching how these guys scammed each other constantly. Like Mark Minter screaming about how all women were whores and how marriage was a sham, then getting married to the first woman who showed him a scrap of attention, or Aurini essentially dicking around with all the money he got for the Sarkeesian effect, and so on, and so forth. Watching all that, it convinced me that Red Pill …
/r/ExRedPill27/08/15 05:42 AM
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Yeah, this is some good advice. I second all this.
/r/ExRedPill08/07/15 08:51 PM
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Yeah. I've mentioned before a sub based on positive self-improvement for men (rather than the misogyny, racism, and other craziness one can find on TRP) might be better. I've heard "The Art of Manliness" comes close to that ideal.
/r/ExRedPill13/05/15 10:13 AM
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Great analysis, friend. As I always say, nice to see someone who got out of that scene.
/r/ExRedPill01/05/15 11:38 PM
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That's actually not that bad. I'm even shorter but I've gotten positive attention by being A: funny, and B: working out (I'm still overweight, but I've lost a few pounds and gotten a little stronger and I've already noticed women acting more interested). If you're scrawny, again, eat right and start hitting the gym. Now, for thin blond hair, think of getting a haircut that would minimize that. I don't have time right now, but try to check out some of the style subs for men, and maybe later I can…
/r/ExRedPill17/04/15 01:56 AM
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Well, first off, it's important to note why you're ugly. If you've got some sort of disorder or something, then yes, unfortunately nothing can be done barring plastic surgery. However, if you're just scrawny, that's a solvable problem. Eat lots of protein and put on some muscle! If you've got acne or something, their are creams and washes for that, and you might also want to see a dermatologist about it, actually. Skin problems can sometimes indicate hormonal problems or even more severe maladie…
/r/ExRedPill17/04/15 01:41 AM
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Eh, I would say some do. I don't really consider myself a feminist, partially because of how many strange little factions and stuff are in the movement, but whenever I bring up the issue of factions feminists try to assure me that "radfems" and stuff are just crazy and not relevant. More importantly, though, I would say that TRP actually offers a justification for radical, man-hating feminism more than anything else. I was just talking with some friends about how red pill men portray all men as …
/r/ExRedPill25/03/15 06:20 PM
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I've talked about this with friends before, it's actually really ironic how similar TRP ideology is to radical separatist feminism. You have radfems who hate men so much they embrace "political lesbianism" and retreat to male-free communes in isolated areas, while MGTOWs have threads about how they "wish they were gay" and fantasize about setting up all-male communes in Arizona or something. Craziness on both sides, though I have to give the radfems credit; at least they've actually gone.
/r/ExRedPill23/03/15 03:23 PM
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I know how you feel, brother. Glad you got out of that scene too.
/r/ExRedPill06/03/15 05:36 PM
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Pretty good, pretty good. Just chillin and studyin for exams :D
/r/ExRedPill06/02/15 04:33 AM
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Good analysis, man.
/r/ExRedPill16/01/15 03:37 AM
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Red pill ideology as short as possible is "fairy ideas are real, women are real people with flaws, women are attracted to attractive men, this is what makes men attractive, do these things" which sounds to me exactly what you believe. No, Red Pill ideology as short as possible is a bunch of half-baked "evolutionary psychology" ideas about how women are useless and good for absolutely nothing except sex, yet somehow manage to "oppress" the other 50% of the population which is superior to them in …
/r/ExRedPill21/10/14 10:55 PM
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Look, plenty of sex workers are normal, healthy women who haven't been abused or otherwise had messed-up childhoods. I do think you raise a legitimate point, "revictimisation" is something to avoid for both moral and practical reasons (STDs, etc). But I'd hardly call a normal, well-adjusted woman raised by loving, caring parents who just wants to earn some extra money for college or something a "victim." Soliciting a sex worker is not a moment of personal growth and development, despite your sug…
/r/ExRedPill21/10/14 04:05 PM
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I don't disagree with you--sex trafficking is awful, and very much ought to be condemned (and before any Pillocks come in here screaming "WHITE KNIGHT," there are plenty of good reasons to crack down on it beyond "moral purity"--it usually accompanies a host of other crimes, leads to social unrest in several countries, etc. etc). Same for getting coerced into the sex worker life. And women certainly are living, breathing human beings, though, of course, you'd have a tough time getting most Red P…
/r/ExRedPill21/10/14 01:18 PM
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Nope. If I was a redpiller I'd have posted a 5000 word screed in front of that about how great the Taliban was and how women need to be exterminated, then go on another tirade about how blacks/jews/the Illuminati are ruining everything for white men and how awesome and manly Hitler was. Hate to break it to you, but guys have been living happily as bachelors, hitting up red light districts, and getting fit and healthy long, long before some butthurt incels ripped off the redpill/bluepill idea fro…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/14 06:25 AM
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Yeah, I'm with TurnPunchKick. Glad to see you focused on improving yourself rather than the butthurt infesting TRP.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/14 05:31 AM
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Dunno if you're immersed in that silliness or not, but in case you aren't: Lots of RPers are big on the whole "war is good" nonsense and the belief that peace makes men less "masculine" and all that nonsense. Jack Donovan's "The Way of Men" is exhibit A of this.
/r/ExRedPill13/10/14 11:42 PM
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Welcome, friend. Glad to see another brother moving away from "Red Pill" dogma and silliness. To respond to your points: Male Disposability: Remember that A: Mostly male politicians start these wars, and B: in modern warfare being female isn't a sure way not to get killed. Thanks to mass bombing and things like that, it's not as "safe" to be a woman as it used to be. That said, anyone who really wants to end male disposability would do well to work towards a more peaceful world, which is exactly…
/r/ExRedPill08/10/14 09:36 PM
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Ok, so now you're throwing in generics villains as TRP. Don't have to throw too far. Go to RoK and look up Lance Christopher (or whatever that numbskull's name happens to be). Plenty of pining for Islamist fanatics who he thinks are "masculine" and "show women their place." And that's just one guy. Spend 30 seconds in Heartiste's comment section and you'll see dipshits calling black people "orcs" and pondering why lynching went out of style. There are dozens more examples I could choose from. Ha…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/14 08:03 AM
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Just found this reply after looking through my message inbox. Gonna respond to it for my own use later on: TRP doesn't really advocate for issues in the real world, but let's say it started getting people fired if they disagreed with the idea that women are biologically programmed to follow a man because evolution, etc etc. That would be pretty crappy, right? Sure would be pretty crappy. Problem is, in TRP world you wouldn't get fired, you'd be beheaded for questioning official orthodoxy--look a…
/r/ExRedPill04/10/14 09:23 PM
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If you think hypergamy, AF-BB, and that sort of thing are true (I'm skeptical of both), then just keep those factors in mind and don't bother with TRP. Looking at the front page of the subreddit, most of it either the political advice you don't care about or useless bitching about women. If you don't need either, why bother with it? Take what minimal wisdom you can from that place and leave it behind you.
/r/ExRedPill01/10/14 03:56 AM
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There's an old saying--the most believable lies have a grain of truth to them. Same with RP. Yeah, getting ripped will get you more girls, and there's some truth to the whole "chicks dig jerks" thing. But it's hardly as if those tiny bits of truth are the exclusive property of TRP. There's no need to buy into the rest of the silliness there. Now, I can't speak for you, but for myself, I admit that I might have bought into the TRP ideology a few years ago. What brought me out of it? A few things:…
/r/ExRedPill29/09/14 11:35 PM
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Thanks for offering your perspective, friend. I take it you don't identify with love-shy anymore--how'd you escape that scene? Got any advice for other guys to do the same?
/r/ExRedPill25/09/14 05:10 AM
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Glad to hear you've escaped their clutches, brother. I sympathize--a few years back I might have been prime recruiting material for them too. But in the end, for most sensible people once you get over the "anger" phase they all say you should, you realize...you've gotten over the whole ideology too.
/r/ExRedPill19/09/14 03:21 PM
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Pretty much this. Too much whining and blaming going on at TRP for me to take it too seriously, what good it has I can find elsewhere easily.
/r/ExRedPill11/09/14 07:14 PM
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Eh, my opinions on feminism have swung back and forth. Right now, there's too much about it I disagree with, largely because there are so, so many different vying factions against each other. If I accept transsexuals I'm an enemy of "Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists," if I like porn I'm an enemy of sex-negative feminists, and so on, and so forth. I don't see any reason to associate myself with any particular branch. This is, ironically enough, one of the reasons I stay away from the "Red Pil…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/14 07:01 PM
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Having realised the misogynistic and destructive nature of TRP how many of you guys are now willing to identify as feminists? Can't speak for anyone else, but I don't, honestly. :/
/r/ExRedPill04/09/14 10:01 PM
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Nice, I think I'll bookmark that subreddit. Thanks man!
/r/ExRedPill25/08/14 08:20 PM
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