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CMVGuyIsAdoptus/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:32 PM
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In the same way "potentially" your sister might suddenly try to strangle you but you don't give that any serious consideration given everything you know and instead hug her when you see her. In the same way we may "potentially" be in a simulation but we don't act like it, in the same way the universe may "potentially" be destroyed and recreated every Thursday but we don't act like it. Only when it applies to men is this sudden threat potentiality treated as serious, even if performative.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:18 PM
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Is it written on their forehead they are also a human and not secretly an alien? No, and yet we still "know" these people are human. Again, these performative autism "how am I supposed to know basic human social realities" acts are just that, an act to sweep all men under the umbrella of "potential monster".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:11 PM
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No one in real life believes this garbage, this is an online/feminist only position. Everyone knows you can distinguish a "good man" from a "bad man".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:02 PM
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This gets to the heart of the matter, the intentional miscommunication for self-interested purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:26 PM
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he is only a social media influencer because he is better looking than average you dumbass, imagine having to explain this to a human being passed the age of 12. You saying he is average confirms that women think average men are "below average". yes that feminist slop is just world theory, reality shows personality isn't the predictor of sexual/dating success lies like that have made it out to be
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:49 AM
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low iq, the point was he was good looking and you fell for the bait by agreeing that he is average. He is a male pick me influencer who says bs just world theory that just sounds nice to women so they believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:23 AM
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They should have no right to that job in the first place then, they're not qualified compared to a man
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:22 PM
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Interesting I've seen conflicting data. Some women love to point out how men have "inflated egos" because they might rate themselves high, while on average women actually rate themselves lower than men do. They leave out that it's because a man who is average might rate himself a 7, but he would also rate an average woman as a 7, men are more general overraters. So I guess maybe women rate themselves lower, but rate other women even higher than men do?
/r/BlackPillScience29/12/25 04:21 AM
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It was only used in the USA, and that is irrelevant to my point. That was factored in, asians were still by far under represented. It was by far over represented in fat and ugly white/black women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 02:43 PM
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Asian women were under represented, and also just coincidentally happen to be the skinniest in America. The leaks showed a certain correlation between weight and Tea App usage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:13 AM
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reminder: It was mostly white and black women over represented on the Tea App. Take what you will from that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:01 AM
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most are definitely not excluding white women as much regardless of a same race preference lol
/r/BlackPillScience24/07/25 09:47 PM
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It says 61% of men exclude Asian women
/r/BlackPillScience24/07/25 09:22 PM
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Damn I'm not surprised Asian women exclude Asian men, but 91% of women in general exclude Asian men??? And 61% of men in general exclude Asian women? I've never even heard men bring up such a 'preference'. Edit: I realize now "Asian" here is just meant for East Asian. I guess that makes sense, South Asian women have a drastically opposite race loyalty compared to East Asian women.
/r/BlackPillScience24/07/25 09:19 PM
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nightmare fuel
/r/BlackPillScience03/07/25 09:35 AM
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literally born with bad luck
/r/BlackPillScience28/06/25 06:45 AM
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holy truthnuke of a thread
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:53 AM
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secular modern garbage, when women are evil it's actually men's fault. Whores have been reviled by all since the dawn of time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 09:58 PM
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By far the majority of misandrists are women, they hate virtually all men besides their father, and around half of them hate him too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 09:27 PM
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copium overdose
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:08 PM
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Not close to similar. Women will say absurd shit like every woman has been molested by a man, frat guys don't say every pledge got injured from hazing or knew a guy that died because of it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 07:56 AM
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the study about men leaving when the wife is sick was retracted and was bs
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:28 AM
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based
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:09 AM
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Hit gold with the Cinderella analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:07 AM
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average looking virgin woman ofc, prettier women have lower n count it's all the average to uggos that rack up the big numbers. She is a rarity and thereby more valuable. I get her best instead of sloppy seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 08:45 PM
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maybe there's nothing wrong about a man cheating. Then again, you should never commit to the point where it can be construed as "cheating". Only an idiot would trap themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 08:33 PM
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makes sense, always cheat on liberal women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 06:39 PM
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wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:05 AM
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saving this for later when they ask for proof
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:00 AM
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bluepill has always been blackpill
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 01:33 PM
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tyranny is freedom and freedom is tyranny
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:04 AM
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that's why I have this flair lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:30 AM
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Spitting
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:26 AM
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not really, if anything they are happy because of all the hatred and resentment they have towards men from constant feminist brainwashing giving them dick envy. Women love to see their sons suffer, you see it plenty here with most of the women being older in this subreddit and asked if they want a beta or chad son, they pick beta. They want a controllable loser because he isn't a risk, and male variability is all so frightening to them. He has to be a sheep or be eliminated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:23 AM
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I mean blame America for this toxic individualism over anything mentality, people are actually already celebrating the fall of humanity for their immediate enjoyment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:33 AM
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I've been saying this, they love to ignore this though
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 01:27 PM
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most men in history were oppressed, this is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 06:58 AM
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nothing messed up about getting a woman at her peak
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 05:34 AM
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men who do 50% of the housework actually have been shown to have less sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 05:06 AM
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When they wanted a woman, they took that woman They had no ounce of shyness or self consciousness or nervousness. Nothing held them back. This kind of hyper self-interest activity with disregard for social norms that would incite second guessing or anxiety is not normal, this is a person with a much greater tendency towards dark triad personality traits than the normal person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 04:42 AM
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what is a huge emphasis? men require a threshold to be met that is easier for women to meet than women's requirements for men. In the developed world at least, before some troll comes in bringing up "what about tutu in this bumfuck village".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 03:24 AM
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this is just saying dark triad without saying it - more psychopathy and Machiavellianism, less empathy or agreeableness to social cues.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 03:16 AM
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baggage is a huge no no, why would I want to put the pieces back together because of something to do with the guy who had his way with you? no thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 03:15 AM
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literally just left the same comment lol. A knowing sucker deserves to get conned
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 02:56 AM
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Any man that gets married deserves every bad thing that happens to him, if you go in a dark alley wearing expensive jewelry idgaf if you get robbed, be smarter. 99% of the time you do not have a gun to your head forcing you into that trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 02:51 AM
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Even then that's like half a year of interrupted living yet the numbers are reversed? weird
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 03:14 AM
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The pandemic started in 2020 though, this data is for 2021. I agree though it doesn't really make sense, people were still inside then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:37 PM
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How does that reversal make sense given there was still a pandemic for much of 2021? People were stuck inside and had more sex? That makes sense for couples, but that wouldn't apply to the men who were only having sex once a year (in before marriage joke).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:35 PM
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Low documents a key deviation from this pattern: Throughout the 20th century, graduate-educated women have married poorer spouses than college-educated women, despite being higher earning themselves. Every other education level yields richer spouses. Why? Education may increase “human capital,” but because it takes time, it decreases “reproductive capital,” especially for educational investments that take longer and are later in life. smh I knew this for years and didn't put the pieces together …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:20 PM
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surely
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:22 AM
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lmao this solipsism is crazy, women are so broken mentally they think the only reason to break up is because your partner is a piece of shit. You're just telling on yourself at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:44 AM
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spitting
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 12:32 AM
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More ad hominem's and no real argument, maybe if women thought with less emotion they wouldn't have so many stories of being abused, choose better. No contradiction, the husband of today's age is big government. Women are net tax drains and the most voters, the most manipulated by advertising, the most submissive. They are the perfect slave drones for the government, and so they have to beat down men to make sure they don't pose a threat to that regime's reign.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 12:08 AM
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typical ad hominem response, try not to react emotionally challenge IMPOSSIBLE!!! Meanwhile all you've said is what we know: women are agreeable submissive sheep who are easily manipulated and don't prioritize values that would attract good quality men. Wonder why every woman has a story of a piece of shit ex boyfriend who they gave their best years to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 11:22 PM
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she did lmao, same old shit. The worse you are the more you get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 11:03 PM
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similar order as me, I just value looks less. Most women don't look nearly as good after they open their mouth imo, to the point their looks don't overcome that hurdle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 05:45 AM
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N count - no cum guzzlers, no using men as living dildos, no dudes saved as 'free meal' (also no serial monogamists) Personality - she can be plain jane as long as she isn't like most women (a sheep who isn't 8+/10 is too unappealing) Age - no old crows looking for young meat to drain or young freaks looking to have sex with their 'daddy' Weight - valued over looks due to projecting for the future, and sexual interest Looks - minimum threshold, no ogres Career - none of it is my money anyway so …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 05:38 AM
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didn't know articles from 2019-2020 in the leadup to Zelensky's election about his anti-corruption campaign and post-his inaguration were all ghost written by fox news, you have to tell somebody!!! Meanwhile the Pandora Papers got swept under the rug because the reporters were killed, and Zelensky's public image is turned around thanks to a war. Just admit you didn't know anything about Ukraine before you started gobbling up Cold War agit prop. Russia invading does not = Ukraine not hell hole of…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:48 PM
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Ukraine is a god forsaken hell hole of corruption, their national hero Zelensky was openly a stooge of oligarch Kolomoisky* and has been committing tax fraud for years through shell corporations while working in the oligarch's entertainment company, as exposed in the Pandora Papers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:36 PM
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not inability, they have it in them but they chip away at it by using the feminist narrative of men being the great evil that has suppressed them, when men have always been suppressed too and done the hard labour more likely to lead to death from the dawn of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:32 PM
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actual brainlet feminists arguing war doesn't happen often enough for it to matter to men LMAO. Just face genocide every 20 years bro, why are you complaining? There is no equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:30 PM
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typical apex fallacy, they only see the top % of men as actual beings and the rest as androgynous evil androids
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:26 PM
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of course, as usual don't listen to what they say but what they do. this sub has too much virtue signaling
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:21 PM
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/1010277/black-and-slave-population-us-by-gender/ Not only were they more slaves, the women were freed more. This is basic shit but of course women have to hamster to deny the fundamental realities of the world that might harm their well crafted virtue signaling image.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:00 PM
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Women support capitalism by not being as rebellious against modern society and by going for men who make more than them showing where their priorities are - which then in turn incentivizes others in that pursuit. Stop pretending like modern dating isn't prostitution without the hotness
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:56 PM
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Wrong, when they have a bias for dating white men it's suddenly not about race
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:50 PM
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spitting
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:48 PM
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Typical women apex fallacy. 20 men being gods of wealth doesn't negate women supporting their rule more than men and wanting their superiors. Your perception of history is also wrong, more men have been slaves than women and it's not close. Again, sexual dimorphism is the cause of so called exclusion, which is nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:43 PM
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didn't the cofeezilla video tearing down hustler's university say people made $2000 off it... That's a profit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:03 PM
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studies have shown rich men give women more orgasms by virtue of their wealth, women objectify men not as sex toys (as often) but as profit churning slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:54 PM
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only because of virtue signaling, nothing perceived wrong with the same sign and language used for men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:51 PM
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not to mention women are the most successfully manipulated group by advertisers, they are more easily pliable and agreeable, conforming is in their nature more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:50 PM
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"unique every time" LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:48 PM
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Slave work has been the foundation of humanity for practically it's totality, men have always been the slaves of society because of human sexual dimorphism, as the upper caste gets to enjoy the lower class women as their animate sex toys - which women also choose because of their hypergamy. Women have not been nefariously excluded against, nature is not evil. Again, women are globally conformists, they support modernity more than men and are outspoken about wanting men to know their place as sla…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:47 PM
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you mean most of human history yeah, this is an outlier blip in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:42 PM
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cap, it's the reason why are the most supportive group of modern society while rebellious political ideology and movements in men have spiked.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:40 PM
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women are more conformist and subservient so they'd be more inclined to an ideology that would think as such and be the most vehement supports of tyrannical government dystopia. The government is not the father figure or protector
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:39 PM
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Extremist political ideology and rebellious movements are spiking in men while women are conformist rule followers, they want 'stability' so they can continue to extract as much personal wealth from men. Women around the world no matter the nation want #1 thing*, a man who is her superior, and that is usually presented through money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:36 PM
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women are the materialistic champions of capitalism, there is no contradiction. No one loves capitalism more than women. It is the very reason for their current status, and they show their loyalty by making sure it perpetuates
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:30 PM
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The more equal a society becomes the more women are unhappy, the less conscientiousness there is among all people, and the more extraversion decreases among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:27 PM
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Korea and Japan are the future, the immigration pipeline the west loves stops working when the birth nations of those immigrant also suffer a declining birthrate and can't keep sending millions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:24 PM
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Makes sense why they fight for everything to be an echo chamber, men subreddits allow women discourse but women subreddits ban all men that don't fall in line like Nazi Germany
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:27 PM
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Obvious, but nice to have this on hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:26 PM
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Men being less neurotic with more equality is surprising, gotta keep this in the backpocket. Conscientiousness decreasing for both and Extraversion decreasing for men is also huge.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:16 PM
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pretty sure it has been shown being richer is more likely to bring a women to orgasm during sex. Probably some bs "omg I feel so secure dick me down daddy". In the end what you offer her with your wealth that is enticing to her is just you throwing away your money to be exploited. You don't actually become chad just because you wear his clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:06 PM
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pretty sure the #1 profession of women who CEO's fuck/date are secretaries. The #1 place to meet a partner was by far work before OLD and social media changed the landscape. Shitting where you eat is how it was done, is done, and will continue to be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 11:56 PM
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they share dick, more men are sexless than women, but the people with the highest N count are men. The top 20-30% get their N count bumped up from the women who would otherwise be with those sexless men https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n-keystat.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 07:42 PM
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women are rule followers and more agreeable while men are rebellious and disagreeable yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:39 PM
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This just proves wrong all the bs about "enjoy the decline" and how "nothing can be done". Feminism and so called progressivism just needs to be extinguished to remove af/bb and other disgusting behaviour. RP truly is defeatist poison made to make men work for women instead of having the world work for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 10:52 PM
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feminist garbage
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 10:25 PM
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Don't forget her leading him on when they danced despite her being engaged/having a boyfriend (forget which it was). And the MC just shit on her with the "you just do what you want don't you?"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:39 PM
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Glad to see others recognize women are the modern champions of capitalism
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:46 AM
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regardless, even in such cases majority of people do not value their lives so lowly to suicide, nor should they
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:56 PM
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almost nothing is worse than death, and rape is not close to the top of the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:12 PM
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y'all are crazy and don't understand the value of life, privilege got your brain turned to mush. If all these things were worse than death people would kill themselves to save themselves from the suffering. Some do, the majority don't. Suffering is life, some suffer than most, still doesn't flip some "suicide switch" inside them to no longer value their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:08 PM
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The government has taken over the paternal figure, this has long been said.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:30 PM
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ofc most dudes don't want to be reduced to fucking sexbots while rich men fuck all the hot young women, just like dudes don't want to be eating manufactured fake meat while the upper class eat real meat. Women more than anyone seem to be the ones propping up capitalist elitist rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:28 PM
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and women are more conformist sheep, what's your point? Men lead, women follow. That's not a good look rofl
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:17 PM
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Don't see what's amazing, his bitch of a mom got nut in by some dude and she deserves respect over being treated as just another trash?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:42 PM
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Yup, it's an outcome that would never be pushed. There will never be a society that calls for it's own dissolution and gives the handbook on all that is fucked up with itself. It will simply create the conditions for people to resent it and for the masses to build something new on top of the ruins of the old one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:38 PM
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If it came out today I can't imagine the explosive reaction, the Nietzschean philosophy behind it only becomes more relevant with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:23 PM
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Wrong, women are more likely to use weapons when committing physical abuse. Do tell me how I should be less scared of someone with a knife vs someone with a fist, how the knife wielding maniac actually deserves less criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 02:52 PM
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"smh who cares about the bottom 70% of men not getting laid! Y'all are below average!!!" - negative iq princess
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 06:22 PM
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Spitting like that can get you in trouble 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 03:49 PM
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Well then if a guy sees a woman's small breasts and is attracted, he is attracted to small breasts. Not just those of course, but he definitely is, unlike the insecurity expressed in the op. It's not the lack* of turnoffs that brings out his attraction, it's the boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:57 PM
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My comment was about how as men we are easier to please so yes we have less turnoffs, but you say it isn't attraction so long as your features aren't an active turnoff How??? Do you think men are at a baseline always attracted. Or are you just demeaning male sexuality that doesn't have as many hurdles as women? Since you want to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:27 PM
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It's entirely projection + weakmindedness falling to advertisement propaganda
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:17 PM
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Why would you even bring it up as if it's relevant, most of the examples in the post were women acting like their man isn't attracted to their features at all. Yes if you look average you will not be treated like Steph Rayner, this is an elementary school level take. It seems you're trying to push that women feel entitled to be pursued as if they are more than they are, which goes back to a recent post on this subreddit. This idea of women being "queens" entitled to a "prince charming".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:16 PM
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rofl goalpost shifting, being attracted is being attracted. What is this about being 'particularly attractive' do you want men to treat basic chicks like swimsuit models?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:08 PM
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Most men are attracted to the average woman facially, so long as she can get her weight to not be beyond what it should be for a woman of her height she's not going to dip below 50%. If she is ugly then no shit she's going to get less attraction because she herself is below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 09:59 PM
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Men get horny often, without disfigurements or large weight discrepancy we overlook a lot as a sex. We also are genuinely attracted to a lot. Though many guys will have their preferences and fetishes, the ideal would probably be slim thick, but the 'cultural' ideal shifts and each time women equate not conforming to the ideal as being unattractive. Partly brainwashing from advertisement being confirmed to work more on women, but probably also projection on women's part on how they perceive and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 09:43 PM
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We live in a materialistic world, most people are at a baseline gold diggers just to different extents. Most just don't have the means to see that in person as it relates to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 09:37 PM
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The results that come from personality matter more than personality itself. You at the finish line vs you at the start or even halfway through, lose to the you who achieved all those results from your hardwork, kindness, industriousness, ingenuity, investigative side. Once you have those results, you can drop that personality off the wayside, you'd already beat the previous versions of yourself easily. It is what it is. The only thing is those results can get lost because such is life, and so yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 09:30 PM
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Propaganda usage is different from the complete butchery that she* accuses happened to Thus Spoke Zarathustra akin to Will to Power. That's completely untrue. I can't decide which is more likely, she just misremembered his lessons or if her professor was another 'intellectual' that didn't know shit about Nietzsche.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 09:22 PM
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lol nah I've read the basics like socrates/plato a few years ago and the existentialists much longer, not so much kierkegaard though I will say. Stayed more into reading politics after I saw philosophy for what it is and the grandiosity it imposes upon itself. Nietzsche just surprised me with how much of his position is based on materialism but then basically decides to wallow in idealism as a kind of a tragic hero. I'm not in school and just working so I don't have as much time to read like I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 09:11 PM
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The point is most people don't have as much "choice" as they like to believe and society tells them. This modern notion of individualism is a facade, most people are almost completely determined by their circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 09:06 PM
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Thus Spoke Zarathustra is as Nietzsche wrote it, I didn't read some Nazi version rofl. His works being later taken on by Nazis is well known and changes nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 09:00 PM
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Lmao nah what I'm saying all comes from Thus Spoke Zarathustra, his Magnum Opus. Long before that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:52 PM
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Reading Nietzsche I've come to recognize how the modern world and feminism have long tied each other at the hip to make sure the majority of men produced are 'Last Men'. To be an Overman/Higherman is to be a threat to their imperatives, to be rebellious and imposing is a sin. He really is a must read, especially as the world becomes more and more nihilistic and the usual terror management methods of dealing with death anxiety and existential nihilism such as religion have been dying out and are …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:19 PM
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This shit is proven in the threads on here where women are asked how they'd like their son to be, chad or simp/betabuxx, and they choose the latter. They want to raise weak men so they can be uplifted. Horrid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 07:27 PM
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wtf is "promiscuous for them", people always say this shit. It's not promiscuous if it's not with more than one person. Why do people act like people can't control themselves and have an active sex life with 1 person they are devoted to unless they have a subterranean level libido or something??? It's called sex control and monogamy, y'all freak me tf out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 07:25 PM
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Conscious decision isn't some independent activity alien to others or the world at large. Different socioeconomic class and different nations have different suicide rates, is that just coincidence of weak mindedness? No, circumstance/action dictates thought, cause and effect. People, unless there is an outstanding biological issue (which can be spurred on by circumstances), are not naturally suicidal. Human intervention has to be put into place to make them suicidal. Everyone can not claim clean…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 07:21 PM
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Not to cross established boundaries. Not to add more stress than benefits of her company. Hasn't suddenly changed values but kept steady with them. Reciprocate feelings, keep each other company, active sex life, keep up in conversation, spend free time reading and not scrolling tiktok/instagram, stand out and not just be some sheep, be kind to myself and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 07:07 PM
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I mean I originally replied because your comment basically said "if people con me they are losers" when the person who is conned is the actual loser in any sensible term of the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:15 AM
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If they get others to pay for their biological imperative that would doubly make them winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 01:57 AM
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By nature's eyes they are winners
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 01:47 AM
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Nietzsche's Last Man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 01:30 AM
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How old were you when originally gave up?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 01:27 AM
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I had that same mindset, the world doesn't allow it and kills it. At some point you have to accept the foundational circumstances of reality, this goes beyond just the structures of human design that shaped society for all of history. It's just life. Read some Nietzsche if you want to explore more of what I'm talking about, in particular - Thus Spoke Zarathustra.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 01:24 AM
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Life is a sysiphian climb Was just about to say the same, there is no easy route and when men choose comfort, life will kick their ass reminding them time and time again that life is about struggle and conflict. There is no comfort that exists outside that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 01:22 AM
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those weren't always pop culture at all so don't see how that applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 01:01 AM
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Another misanthrope woman
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:31 PM
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Thought this was fake but I found the original post LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:31 AM
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All the modern consequences of the deterioration of committed relationships wouldn't exist if birth control and modern methods of abortion didn't exist, yes. Human unhappiness as we see it today and this post-modern misanthropy is a product of the luxury of the industrial revolution and the advancements of science.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:06 AM
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Monogamy and marriage were really the the biggest thing holding this whole shitshow together. Religion and society pushing it so much for millennia after millennia was not some coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:00 AM
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And so what if a woman or a man doesn’t want to date 99% of people out there? It’s still their right to opt out. Yet somehow doesn't understand how such a low view of people is inherently misanthropic LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:57 AM
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There was the idea of the long term game for men: be a good man, work hard, and you will get a good wife. Lots of men realized it wasnt worth it if other men were having success in the short term game with the same women they would end up marrying with in the long game. Yup, when marriages have been declining crazily for decades and common law couples haven't been rising quick enough to balance it out, we see these select % of men having their sexual abundance without having to lock down shit. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:47 AM
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"Have the freedom to" = will do in large majority as programmed to by society's cultural values instilled which are then treated as "empowerment" by a broken ideology in it's zombie stages. Oh my god it's just her natural choice to think 99% of men are incompatible and disgusting, stop denying her freedom! Totally not just another misanthropic post-modern android.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:39 AM
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LOL woman voting isn't the reason for ever rising male sexlessness for past decades, but the mentality of "fuck society, all men, and the world, they can all die if I don't get to indulge in this modern world of rugged individualism where men can be stepped on and thrown away" definitely is part of it. The toxic feminist mindset that has it's roots in misanthropy and was BOOSTED x100 after the fall of the USSR with this "end point of history" BS where there is no actual character to the movement…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:31 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/xd7usn/why_are_men_in_crisis_discussed_on_bill_maher/iobd7kb/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:17 AM
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Most common job position of a partner to a CEO is Secretary. bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:38 PM
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Why even speak when you're an irrelevant statistical freak rofl vegan and childfree, driven by ideology like that you're not even working based off typical unreasonable standards. Might as well say you're a zombie and take yourself out the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:37 PM
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Funny, to me women seem to be more misanthropic than men, sometimes leaving messages on here about how they'd be glad to see society and humanity all die if their individualistic values were infringed upon. Or reducing men to living dildos with no social repercussion and celebrating it as 'empowerment'. Hell, the whole perception of "I'd rather be single forever than be without my top [insert %] man" is a pretty misanthropic take, as if that many men are vile creatures or something that are for …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:22 PM
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lmao now you're pretending to be some Stacy, if you were, your standards wouldn't be unreasonable as they are by her own admission, since women's smv and rmv are much higher than men. It's like shopping. Maybe double check your reflection in the mirror. Seeing as the top % of men are the ones with the most N count, with double the % of men than women in the same category, best of luck locking that down LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:17 PM
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Funny that it continued for years and only teetered off not long ago, and the stats still show that people are getting into less and less committed relationships period. And casual sex isn't the explanation, at least not in the sense of 'everyone is just having casual sex that's why they're not married', relatively few are doing that proportionate to the general population. Women have come to openly detest men philosophically and politically, and so they can only dehumanize them as other wallets…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:09 PM
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Why would anything above average not be high? cuz feelings? Lifetime average count for women is 4
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:01 PM
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LOL feminism's attack on the institution of marriage and the ridiculous spike in the divorce rate are a universal fact of reality, women using that same institution they've been killing to lock and trap a man for resources is not contradictory or shocking. When they see men as villains with garbage 'patriarchy' messaging and embrace the same rugged individualistic capitalist mindset that would have them trafficked around as sex slaves for the 1%, they won't see a relationship with a man as anyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 09:54 PM
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Women on here are finally outwardly admitting they would rather harem for chad than happy marriage with Joe Shmoe. The top 28.3% of sexually active men are having 15+ partners (over double the % of women with the same N count), these men are necessarily being shared given the drastically different rates of sexual activity between the sexes. Meanwhile, just from 2000-2018 male sexual inactivity has almost doubled, with males doubly as sexless as women. Feminism's attack on marriage is largely to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 09:45 PM
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lmao they really don't know a woman's average lifetime partner count is 4. >5 by 25 is well above average
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:07 AM
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lol the only 'check out' is women not being monogamous to Joe Schmoe. Women will still have sex and relationships they will just become less committed and with a smaller % of the male population. Much of it when they're 'single' but get regular dick appointments.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:00 AM
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Marriage has been the route for sex, this is true. Since 1978 marriage rates have halved and cohabiting couples haven't kept up to replace it, from ages 25-34: In 1968, 81.5% married + 0.2% cohabitating = 81.7% married or cohabitating. In 2018, 40.3% married + 14.8% cohabitating = 55.1% married or cohabitating. Hell just from 2000-2018 male sexual inactivity has almost doubled, with males doubly as sexless as women. You've definitely touched on something with this post. The top 28.3% of sexually…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:42 AM
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The former, the latter is the modern celebrated and idealized living sex toy dehumanization. Oops, I mean "women's empowerment"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:30 AM
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Men are almost doubly as sexless as women and the top 28.3% of sexually active men are having 15+ partners (over double the % of women with the same N count), women are sharing the same men. In every N count category except the top, even among sexually active men and women and not just in general, women take up the bigger %. Then when these numbers are averaged together surprise surprise, the truth is obfuscated and twisted through malintent in a way to reject the obvious visceral and well docum…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 12:56 AM
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rofl
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 05:14 PM
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Yes women have uncommitted sex without apps, shock. Men are almost doubly as sexless as women and the top 28.3% of sexually active men are having 15+ partners (over double the % of women with the same N count), these men are obviously being shared. Young marriage rates have halved since 1978, it has all become less serious, with more single parenthood and children born out of wedlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 05:04 PM
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So they form harems? Which is it? Since men are almost doubly as sexless as women and the top 28.3% of sexually active men are having 15+ partners (over double the % of women with the same N count), how are they sharing these men if not hookups? All those men are cheating? rofl For every man stuck in a dry spell there should be the same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 05:40 AM
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Yup, hell atomization has long been recorded and predicted centuries ago lol Things have only gotten worse with time, and will continue to do so as 'solutions' which exacerbate the issue are celebrated. AKA robotic simulated human interaction, popularization of VR, further wealth consolidation and people finding it more difficult to spend on social activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 05:35 AM
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This is obvious to those not on blue pill, good work tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 05:13 PM
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Your point doesn't make sense, if those women are in relationships then for each women there would be a man, the numbers evidently show the opposite. Unless you think women are getting around polygamy laws by not marrying and forming a harem around a boyfriend...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 07:30 PM
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Make clear which data you're talking about - the Morgan Stanley one? Quote where it says that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 07:21 PM
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bruh, they're not counted as single if they're in a relationship that's the whole point??? That's how these top % men accumulate the drastic difference in N count at 15+
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 07:17 PM
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What did I make up? The rest of the data show many are single but not sexless you keep ignoring this
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 07:10 PM
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All the data together does, women's sexlessness is on the rise but much less, 60% more men are sexless, but women are still having sex, the top % of men have drastically higher N count, these women are sharing the same men and they will do this more in the future when even more of them are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 07:05 PM
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huh that's the point, most of these women, 80% being the safe limit in a decade's time, won't be virgins or anything, they will be having casual sex with top 30% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 06:53 PM
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damn
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 04:39 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 04:37 PM
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eh, black pill does the same but is just fatalistic, a lot of what defines red pill is the strategy and push for self improvement. I would maybe agree if you considered black pill as just jaded red pill since it also goes against mainstream narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:23 PM
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True, people never care about outlier behaviour unless it's thanks to religion or being traditional, not because of some disgusting dehumanization of people as living sex toys and societal push for an uncoupling of sex and love, hmmm. You go go girl!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:09 PM
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Funny, you who do you think women have sex with? aliens? If more men are virgins or having much less sex then as the numbers show the margin of men having the high N counts are having sex with an abundance of these women that didn't partner with those other men. Simple as that, you can try and cope "b-b-but she didn't set out to have sex with the top 30%!" and try to run along reframing it as "coincidental" hypergamy smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:54 PM
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I am speaking about average, wth does that have to do with religious, conservative or "low count", this is the normal, if a woman exceeds that she's to be side eyed of course lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:52 PM
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True, doh. It's late, excuse my math :\
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 04:43 AM
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huh, who do you think women have sex with? aliens? If more men are virgins or having much less sex then as the numbers show the margin of men having the high N counts are having sex with an abundance of these women that didn't partner with those other men. edit: wait so now the argument is "subconscious" or coincidental hypergamy? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:15 AM
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it's 28.3% of sexually experienced men, so closer overall to mid 20s - low 20s. I don't see how you didn't see me address this basic stuff in the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:08 AM
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Yeah lol we have the most interconnecting means available to humanity, trains, planes, cars, the internet, people with disabilities are able to travel better than ever, it's not technology limiting interaction rofl.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:58 AM
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I mean even with the multiple credible large data groups I still have a white knight denying it vehemently spamming my messages lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:55 AM
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Or is this one of those cases where who participated in the study is actually important. For your theory to make sense, it would have to be that the women in that study are sleeping with the men in that study. But they aren't. ??? Did you not get that individuals that represent the larger group don't need to themselves intermingle with each other to represent a % of those represented groups actually intermingling and compromise any data???
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:50 AM
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Quote clearly what your referencing in the data I've linked, Men have only more partners at the highest tier of 15+, the top 28.3%. If that's what you mean you missed the whole point
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:47 AM
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You just suggested the data isn't a representation of the population and that the surveys were compromised by people fucking each other lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:36 AM
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huh no the sample just serves as a representation of the larger population, the p values are available in the data I linked and I'm pretty sure the National Survey of Family Growth from the CDC is reliable and it's not just "the survey people fucking each other" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:24 AM
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The latter is an important part I need to take into consideration emphasizing in the framing of this hmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:20 AM
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I mean those relationships were pitstops on the way to marriage, courting was more serious back then. There are more common law relationships now than ever. Marriage rate decline seems to be the number 1 indicator here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:19 AM
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It doesn't matter the legal functionality, I'm talking about the practical effects. More are sexlessness now than when 50%+ and 60%+ 18-34 adults were getting married
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:13 AM
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I thought my post kind of made it clear that casual sex has lead to less sex for men and women (tho to a lesser degree) not just regularly, but at all. Marriage as the norm lead to more of the population having sex and yes, having it regularly. Though casual sex has lead to the select % that do have sex outside marriage having even more partners than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:08 AM
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I guess more hetero socialization would be the norm if there was as much guaranteed action. Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:02 AM
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True, tbf I remember looking at the demographics of this sub from whatever survey, surprised how many Black Pill guys there are here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:00 AM
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Oh no data! Must run through the checklist of shaming tactics - sexless cretin! Would be more gut bustingly funny if it wasn't so typical. Next is the usual homophobic attack right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:59 AM
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ah yes because the education system favouring women's style and a bias against boys is just 'allowing' women to go to school. This is not hidden illuminati information, think before you type.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:56 AM
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Gay OLD p much just replaced the gay club, hence no significant effect. I was discussing this with someone in this thread, given the sparseness of gay and bi men, is it really that the social decline doesn't effect them because they socialize more in their own communities (gay clubs) or is it that the means normalized and available to us all just work better for them, namely OLD. So they're less social like the rest of society, but don't suffer a sexual decline as consequence?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:52 AM
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Marriage being the social norm because children born out of wedlock being much more shunned, increases the % having sex. If marriage were pushed again today there would be less sexlessness than in the current casual sex push. But that's not a realistic long lasting solution
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:49 AM
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https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2018/comm/percent-married.html This is what I found
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:46 AM
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Marriage or relationships? Well marriage. Relationships haven't fallen out of favour as much as marriage, and marriage was moreso historically the path to sex which was treated more as the means of procreation than pleasure. Personally i think ensuring your kid gets adequate socialisation with the opposite gender as they grow up and encouraging spaces for people to meet. Yeah this is not going to happen en masse so I guess this is the tame equivalent of individualist style Red Pill problem solvi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:35 AM
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No one is born socially astute, those that get approval and attention will get more confidence and "self-esteem" that they think has come from themselves and thereby act optimally in interacting with either sex. That society atomizes people more than ever, while women get the same attention creates this seeming divide where men are the ones being more socially inept. But it's more exaggerated than in reality imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:29 AM
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So women just happen to feel all that chemistry with 28% of the sexually experienced men and not 30% of all young men? Funny how that suddenly changed in the last decades and that it only applied to opposite sex relations. Don't be childish mass social trends are based off said societies 1) foundational circumstances and incentives 2) the modern tools that act as catalysts to those incentives and culturally held values. These numbers massively shifted after 2008 for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:19 AM
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Hmm interesting take, I've never thought it as such, the more closeted the more the sexually active get to enjoy their options. This would suggest a reversion the more open society becomes though? Unless you mean their limited numbers ensures that this kind of state can last for as long as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:15 AM
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So your points besides libido and shared hobbies, is that just the option alone given the various potential community areas can help explain the large difference, so [this is me filling in some of the rest] then the 'option' for straight couples - marriage - has become so much less and less enticing/possible that it itself could greatly explain the gap in sex decline? I did just see someone say in this thread that marriage from 18-34 has gone down 30% from 1978, which is crazy. I don't see any m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:12 AM
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Cheers :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:04 AM
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Exactly, they're sharing the same men is the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:04 AM
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I want to see the evidence showing that Man A is actually going out to gay social group events like a gay club more than a straight man is going to a club that will be mostly just straight people though. Especially given how many are closeted. This is the thing I'm getting at, and it would have to be a noticeable difference unless what has to be the second option in my mind is going on - these men are relying on and actually succeeding through Grindr at ridiculous rates and basically experiencin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:00 AM
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It is sensible but I haven't seen anyone touch upon a difference in same sex vs opposite sex socialization that would make such a point clear. They would have to go looking and frequently going to these places to begin with, they should otherwise see a similar decline if they were just getting lucky off going to mostly straight gatherings of the same sex, which have lessened. Not like straight people don't dominate society and interact on the daily, even if less so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:28 AM
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Do you have the source on hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:17 AM
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Notice how there’s more men than women who report having more than 1 sexual partner in a given year. However there’s more women than men who report having 1 sexual partner in a given year. huh? This is the opposite actually until it gets to the extremes just like I mentioned? And those men having sex* casually are likely also doing it with the same women going for casual, unless you think they are cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:14 AM
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Well I'd prefer to see data on a smaller range but that is much more alarming than I thought. A full 30% 100% difference, even if the side issues were to be resolved that is too big of an obstacle to ever climb over.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:10 AM
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lmao I don't see what question there is to to Japan's severe birth rate problem and their complete ineptitude in adjusting to fix it at all. Also, why try and say ally after I made clear subjugation, Article 9 of their constitution makes this clear. And China and other east asian powers could conquer them with little issue if not for the united states.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:08 AM
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You do know that's not relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:06 AM
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No, surveys show young men are majority interested in sex but aren't having any. And again you ignore only the top men have N counts above women, the rest each have less partners than women in the respective categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:05 AM
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huh? The top men are having many partners but more men are having none to very few at all, the top men are having casual sex, but many women are going for them to reach that N count in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:04 AM
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This doesn't really addresses the drastic difference in less relations between men and women vs gay and bi men being free of any of these trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:02 AM
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Also, none of this addresses the drastic difference in relations between men and women vs gay and bi men being free of any of these trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:01 AM
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30% of men are autistic nerds? Are only 30% of already sexually experienced men the complete opposite of autistic nerds that attracts the same surplus of women? I don't see how you can take your own demeaning of men seriously tbh, always the same shaming tactics anytime data is presented that analyzes societal behaviour and trends even touching upon women related issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:56 PM
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I do agree that would change things, but disagree that it is sustainable for anything more than a relatively short societal backlash to modern social values. The ebb and flow can not be truly reversed, the fundamental circumstances of society push it to be so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:51 PM
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I just made a post sourcing my numbers and discussing this lmao https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ww26dg/hypergamy_exists_and_it_will_get_worse/?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:49 PM
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Isn't it in part that they are on them for less time using it casually here and there?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:49 PM
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I mean like I said in my post this is very a much a boom after 2008, a poisonous concoction of economic downturn which increases male sexlessness, social media which changes perceptions and atomizes people further, and online dating effecting standards - all effecting to different degrees. Also, those parties the shy kids would go to are definitely happening less to begin with nowadays, it is not just that they are not attending. This is part of my point in the decline and destruction of communa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:47 PM
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I don't see that happening at all lol, without some kind of transhumanism that would necessarily be tyrannical we are a social species that derives our deepest intimacy with our sexual partners and in the act of sex itself. What is more likely is the accelerated commodification of our sexuality and bodies, sex robots being a replacement for true kinship and the rich enjoy the pleasures of women's bodies who they mistreat. Akin to a possible future of beyond meat mush forcefed to the masses while…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:44 PM
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Well I'm not gonna touch most of your comment but How is this relevant? The future issues of other nations are meaningless, these countries will have to do what Japan is doing. You mean kill themselves faster than the rest of the developed nations and superpowers of the world? If not for their complete and utter submission to* the united states, they would be without question on the path of being conquered if not it happening earlier. There is only so much nuke dick measuring contests and teasin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:41 PM
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Do you have stats on past vs present marriage rates among youth? It sounds like it would make sense but the difference there would need to be is too drastic, especially again since I've emphasized how much this has been a relatively recent growing issue, unless 30% of 18-24 were getting hitched in the 80s that doesn't add up. As for the education it would make sense given the bias towards girls in the school system and push for more women into higher education that men would find it less and les…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:35 PM
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I men I get your point but don't really see how there is any soundness it holds, marriage was the path to sex and has been on the downswing, casual sex went up but that is very much a key part responsible for the rise in sexlessness. Maybe if you mean waaaaaaaaay back into a pre agricultural time, but that was not what I gathered from your comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:22 PM
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That is your own supposition, I haven't seen a good argument from that standpoint especially one that addresses the places young people are 'forced' to socialize namely high school and college. Furthermore, as far as I know that doesn't change anything to disqualify it from being hypergamy if 30% are having sex and partnering up with 70%. The other men are still options, and given polygamy is illegal, those single women are not pairing up with all those single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:19 PM
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I mean given the rising status of women in the world and how women seem to be more of it's allies than the disgruntled men, I don't see it ever really getting to a point where the Red Pill fantasy of 'assigned women' or 'sex slave dungeon food stamps' will ever become a reality. This is without even mentioning the resistance among the people - women and men. Of course there's also the bankrupt amorality of it all, pfft.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:15 PM
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If anything the black population in america is decreasing lately and the white population is subsidized by white mexicans who many would differentiate under "ethnic". I disagree with much of you what you said principally, but to try and continue in discussing in the right direction, the BIG problem is that what these more developed nations are doing is just offloading the problem and chucking it to the next guy. When these less developed nations of the world keep rising and face similar populati…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:02 PM
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Important things to note, this growing trend has unquestionably spiked recently for what I believe to be the reasons I mentioned at the start of my post, so this is most definitely not 'same old, same old'. Secondly, the more this is the more hypergamy is accentuated and put on the spotlight, these ideas are and have been discussed in the recesses of the internet but with newer generations and the more recent rise of the redpill (largely thanks to the data presented) this will open itself even m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:56 PM
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It's statistically evident with young adults in the drastic difference between men and women with virginity rates (almost double) at 30% and 15+ N count (almost double) at 28%. Meanwhile the other 50% are with much less. 80/20 visible Women are fucking the same men. This will be even worse a decade later as predicted by financial group Morgan Stanley 45% of prime age (25-44) working women will be single, and we know that about 80% of them will not be chaste virgins and lack regular sex. Male you…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:30 PM
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I mean I still take it as obviously a given that gay men still have it easier than straight and lesbian couples with finding a partner and the overall quality of relationship. Men generally have more of a tendency for the extremes and my cursory knowledge suggest this is definitely the case with the sexual/dating market in the gay community. With even stronger stereotyping and desirability of hypermasculinity, though prob more variety also idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:45 PM
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Makes sense, mortal life hasn't been known to be much more than suffering
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:48 PM
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Interesting, typical assumptions would say dudes are willing to put their dick in anything lol my fellow men of the opposite sexuality built different oof
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:41 PM
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Are tops high value because less men are willing to be top or because men are only willing to be bottoms for the exceptionally desirable ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:02 PM
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Gay men have it so easy sex and dating wise in the developed west so long as they live in a big city which tend towards being liberal. They have more sex, are happier, least % of domestic abuse, and half the divorce rate of lesbians (which should mean gays have a bit less than 1/4 the divorce rate of straight couples). Women see this and say "just be gay" because they have no means of arguing with how all their shaming and insults at men fall apart with this data besides the traditional homophob…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:58 PM
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She's refusing to see the trend of the next gen only looking at millenials lol with most of the stats being carried by the older half of them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:49 PM
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That is still well above average why are you acting those people aren't the exception? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:41 PM
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huh there are nearly double male virgins as female, every N count category except 15+ is dominated by women lmao. This is the new normal with gen Z and the future. It's predicted by Morgan Stanley 45% of prime age working women will be single 10 years from now, with basically all of them still fucking around unlike many of their male peers. Women are selecting for the same men. 30% of young men are virgins, 23% have 15+ partners. 80/20 in effect. Observing Millennials is gonna lead to different …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:24 PM
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Gay guy doesn't feel like a scam because of the social consequences tho, shit maybe they scammers upped their game in the big cities???
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 09:32 PM
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Nah a lot of straight guys would enjoy the compliment of being appealing in some way despite it not being a woman, if the guy comes on too strong or if the person being approached is homophobic then there will be a big reaction typically yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 09:31 PM
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Spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 09:29 PM
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Anywhere in public, don't touch me inappropriately, just talk to me. I won't shit on them, won't lead them on, and might try to cheer their spirit up after the rejection. I couldn't hook them up tho which sucks, don't really know gay bros like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 09:27 PM
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Same old same old, if you were born in ancient rome you'd parrot the virtues of a slave society, just parroting as society teaches as is in it's best interest, no society will call for action against it's own interest let alone it's own death. Celebrate the woman of your family will be cumboxes more than their predecessors. Meanwhile I gotta go to get some shut eye, stayed up after work too long damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 09:19 PM
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Also, despite your ambivolent and neoliberal malthusian take on the upward trend (doubling) of sexlessness and the circumstances at the core of society that have lead to and exarcebated it in the first place leading to people being more unhappy than ever recorded in the modern era, you seem to care for your daughter and niece. Do you not see the conservative backlash such as with Roe v Wade supported by open and closet regressivists who would like to try and fix the present issues by trying to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 09:17 PM
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Why would I give a shit about privileged middle class americans jerking off to the fantasy of a Soc Dem America that once thought about maybe voting for Bernie. Lmao college, so typical and hilarious "oh no this one thing I can't afford is a commodity but all the basic needs and amenities the working class has existential dread about each day of losing for fear of death and homelessness is alright since I can afford that". This is the basic principle of private property, exclusiveness. I hope yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:54 PM
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Where do you get the presumption you have to remove liberties to change values? You do know people are more individualistic and hedonistic now than ever, yes? What liberties were removed to cause this? Society after society, political economy after political economy, changes their fundamental mode of life with time, change their prioritized values, and yet generally follow a trend of 'progressiveness'. Are you unironically braindead enough to think women have to be forced by the state to fuck me…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:25 PM
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The state's interest is good public policy? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:23 PM
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We are ALL "selecting for own misery" now and then, that's the price of freedom and liberty Yeah no, "choice" is mostly just being fed and indoctrinated with the information that is most beneficial for how you can be modeled into the best tool for the upper class in this case coupled with the at large societal values generated by the political economic system of the world. Minimal agency is involved, but much of the illusion of it. Continuously choosing the actions and holding the ideology that …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:17 PM
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lmao they really ask to be hated
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:04 PM
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The problem is the same exclusion of natural amenities of the world that exist in the world being hoarded, nothing new. Same old tactics blaming the poors, there is enough food to feed the entire world, enough homes to for a roof over their head, enough water, we could add billions to the earth no problem. Human society isn't a beehive, we don't have "pre-ordained" positions. As a father of a daughter, I want my daughter to have all the choices in life, that any man has. That includes the right …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:00 PM
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You've been fed propaganda by upper class messaging groups, the world can handle much more people and as nations develop they enter a stage of population decline which so far seems to not have a solution which if not for nukes would/will lead to them being conquered. It's the modern mode of living where the most affluent choose to destroy the earth out of hedonism and then blame the poors in the 3rd world fucking too much. But this eugenicist take is not uncommon and not unsurprising women are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:41 PM
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Well what else answer is there beside tingles and willful blindness?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:24 PM
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lol society is becoming more and more unequal the wealth divide grows and the world only favours the rich more and more. That elite men have tricked women into conforming to the rugged individualism that is the ideal of capitalist society and choosing to be a commodity is a positive is honestly hilarious. Morgan Stanley have predicted 45% of prime working age women (ages 25-44) will be single by 2030—the largest share in history. This "single" life funny enough doesn't entail chasteness but just…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:20 PM
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ofc the rugged individualism that this cancerous society loves, the modern liberal choice feminism where women just coincidentally choose to champion capitalist cultural ideals, which seek to atomize and alienate people at large and commodify people especially women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:13 PM
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They're living better than ever while women are less happy and filling themselves with more pills than ever and still act shocked when the status quo is questioned lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:05 PM
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No shit, elite men tricked women into being wageslaves and commodifying themselves as their sex toys. They know this and support it nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:02 PM
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You'll never find a satisfying answer from them, they have no real beliefs. If women wanted to mass suicide it would be celebrated for being their choice. This is the level of women's rights in the "endpoint of human history", women support commodification of women along with the alienation and atomization of society more than any group besides the top capitalist men lmao. They'd rather women choose to be a man's cumbox in a soft/hard harem, with societal rise in loneliness, sexless, out of wedl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:58 PM
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https://www.morganstanley.com/ideas/womens-impact-on-the-economy Based on Census Bureau historical data and Morgan Stanley forecasts, 45% of prime working age women (ages 25-44) will be single by 2030—the largest share in history—up from 41% in 2018. What's driving this trend? For starters, more women are delaying marriage, choosing to stay single or divorcing in their 50s and 60s Women could poison themselves and so long as it conforms to liberal post fall of USSR "endpoint of human history" ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:42 PM
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Not going to lie this is one aspect I was not aware of the degree, another thing to add to the pile of societal lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:59 PM
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https://www.morganstanley.com/ideas/womens-impact-on-the-economy Based on Census Bureau historical data and Morgan Stanley forecasts, 45% of prime working age women (ages 25-44) will be single by 2030—the largest share in history—up from 41% in 2018. What's driving this trend? For starters, more women are delaying marriage, choosing to stay single or divorcing in their 50s and 60s Women could poison themselves and so long as it conforms to liberal post fall of USSR "endpoint of human history" ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:26 AM
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Of course A, would love to see all the talk about men not being looks matched get terminated lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:34 AM
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Skinny fat is above 70% of America.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:31 AM
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Seems you ignored most of my comment when I tried engaging with you sincerely, sad to see but not unexpected. It's women that in my observation are supporting the alienation and atomization of current society with a future only leading to even more commodification of women, but I guess this is the consequence of the propaganda after the fall of the USSR about the "end point of history" that has infested all liberal politics. The so called choice feminism where if women choose social decline it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:17 AM
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Damn sucks I agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 09:50 AM
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Those are men thinking within the confines of present capitalist society and it's cultural norms just like 99% of people and so they think they can 'fix' the present society through regressivist* policies that try and take the bits and pieces they like of past societies into the modern era and keep it functional. It's pure cope that refuses to recognize the past is what has necessarily lead to the present and nothing of the present circumstances we find ourselves in is some onetime abberation bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 09:33 AM
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Reading things like this about the ephemerality of women's sympathy for men really does make it hard to resist the natural formation of extremist thoughts of Machiavellian self interest and callousness towards women's issues as they are typically presented. Then women say men don't care anyway, then freakout when things get worse and popularity of RP smh. Blue Pill truly is Black pill, they wouldn't care if 60% of men died lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 09:22 AM
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This again proves women look for the approval of other women in who they partner with and care more about conforming much more than men. It's honestly sad to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:36 AM
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This user above you might actually be the most stupid person I've seen on here, and that's a fucking feat!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:30 AM
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Nah there are a lot of no standard non-existent sex selecting sluts, I think the real surprise is how many people (not just women) are actually black pill. And I don't mean just the 'woe is me I'm not even normie looking', but 'of course it is only right that thanks to women's rights and choice that 30% of men are sexless while another 30% have sex like rabbits, die out of the gene pool thank you!'. AKA blue pill without the PR imaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:26 AM
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Women could get a bank account in the late 1800s and even former slaves were lmao this is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:10 AM
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it was all catalyzed by the 2008 crisis I'm telling you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:08 AM
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Look into Hesiod if you're already reading Khaldun
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:04 AM
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And thereby become even more disposable, more lonely, and more suicidal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:00 AM
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The issue is that it’s our tech everyone globally are getting weaker and no Barbarian can take predator drones. Doesn’t matter if the men get weaker. The tech covers that anyway. So we’re reach 6th stage never seen before. I've never seen anyone bring up this point before they usually just stop at "the decline will happen and someone will take over", unless superpower nations kamikaze each other into non-existence with nukes that won't happen. We're in unchartered waters, and honestly people had…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:58 AM
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Same shit - read and lift. But damn I'd have to cut back on jerking off...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:38 AM
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holy shit what a great flair
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:26 AM
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Sure and it's probably a consequence of education, industrialization, and the ideologies that sprouted from those circumstances. In the case of children probably for the better since most of human history children were treated as slaves that can be killed off and replaced, that work the home and fields for free, and ought to repay their family for the grace of birthing them. That last part is especially emphasized today compared to the rest. But then those children grow into adults and it'll be …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:19 AM
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I mean not in the specific area of sex maybe but in politics going between liberal vs conservative, social democracy and fascism, it obviously is. Also, I completely disagree the current situation has been long forecast and is a consequence of capitalism's atomization and alienation destroying communities and traditional means of socialization despite living in the most connected era of human existence thanks to the internet. It isn't a coincidence this is a problem of the most developed nations…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:16 AM
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Europe has done better. the ruling class in the US is too greedy to do better unless we force them I get that since you're American you'd think like that, as someone who lives in a place like that, there's a better safety net but the shit is the same when it comes to financially being worse off than our forefathers and there being a growing wealth divide. Especially with all the importation of American culture, much of the stuff which is usually associated with that stuff is impossible to avoid,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:50 AM
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Because societies are not alien to extremist responses to trending social downturns. It's like the social equivalent of the economic boom and bust cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:47 AM
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This mf struck the lottery lmao, no way you don't get prideful being with her right? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:44 AM
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Don't fuck around in college, develop interest or at least understanding of male hobbies, then pick from the sea of options the person who would be the mix of most viscerally attractive + shared values + interesting personality. Be honest back and forth when you meet, hang around their friend group first couple times to get a good judgment of them, if they have social media internet stalk their posts for any weirdo stuff or red flags, use knowledge having learned from the mistakes of 99% of peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:31 AM
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Makes more sense then I guess, prob would have done worse if you were egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:25 AM
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uphold gender norms that might benefit women or portray a "woman are wonderful" perspective. A benevolently sexist guy might pay for the date, talk about how women are weak and need to be protected more, how men are evil sex animals. An egalitarian man might try to divide the roles and be seen as more feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:17 AM
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Nothing, just continuing the convo as it goes lol. Did you oblige them and simp for them or act 'benevolently sexist'?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:14 AM
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I'm 6' tall, white and have a big dick. It also helps that I'm pretty chill & funny which goes a long way. lmao of course, well salute to you and your luck man. I did notice when I start dating past the 7.5 range that women felt they were too good looking for me and demand more simping. Meanwhile in bed they are submissive begging for kinky authority figure dynamics
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:07 AM
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How would you rate her 1-10, and how much do you make/how you would rate yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:02 AM
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60 mil
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:59 AM
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what would you rate yourself (any extremely beneficial traits?) and what have been your standards? Are you a 7 sleeping with 5s and 6s?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:55 AM
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In the US, I can only speak for women in my situation and my class to say that this trend feels to me like a reproductive strike. Are you middle or upper class? You have much to say on the status quo, but it appears to me that you're not looking at the atayis quo for women. We are unable to have these equitable relationships and ensure the thriving of our children. That's not sustainable. Their suffering is in no way preferable to a peaceful and quick end to all of this. Unable how? What do you …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:41 AM
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We are already below replacement level and have been for some time. You didn't know this? It's not hidden information that first world nations are trending down more and that relying on immigration is just stalling the problem while offloading it elsewhere. Do you think they won't learn from their mistakes? I hope they learn. I hope so, but also maybe the human race just does need to die if more Elons of every nationality just keep exploiting the common people. Exactly what I'm talking about, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:30 AM
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Low fertility rates were cited as a concern in overturning Roe. Low fertility rates in the US are very much documented. It's about having babies, not sex, and again I do not agree with your statement about who women are sleeping with. I'm not an expert, take it for what you will. You're giving women (people in general really) more agency than they have, they are doing exactly as is desired and trained for them to do by the upper class. It is not a conscious effort for any kind of social cause. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:21 AM
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tbf she's the type to wear skimpy clothes and get wasted, it's a bit different than "just" going out to a club for fun. Typical white girl that never grew out of high school/college partying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:19 AM
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Ah hell nah she's for the streets. Also, black eyed peas LMAO Finns really just love to consume American garbage, nice to know
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:15 AM
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Yeah votes aren't helping, but clearly the reproductive strike is hitting them where it hurts. It's beene effective enough to where competition isn't the issue- the labor force will shrink enough to where the majority will need to be compensated enough for a house and a family. huh? Any mention of a reproductive strike I've seen has been all theoretical, where do you see this in effect? Or are you actually unironically calling women having less sex with men their own level of income a reproducti…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:12 AM
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I didn't see the neck kissing you talked about, only a video of her partying at somebody's house looking like a typical white girl. Link? Edit: Just saw it, unacceptable ofc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:06 AM
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Don't they also have less sex though, I think only like 1.6 times less a month, still interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:48 AM
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Why is it weird for someone to want someone viscerally attracted to them and love them for who they are, but doesn't love or have physical intimacy with a bunch of other people? How is that so weird to people? I have not even met more than one person I'd feel that way for in my life. Are y'all just up for anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:45 AM
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Why is this so wrong? Women should be able to do this if men aren't willing to pitch in with the next generation or be stable and helpful. The problem comes in their actions as a consequence where they act as capitalist men's wet dream like they've been trained of course? Yet calling it empowering and consider it a manifestation of their own actions. This reminds me of fears I've seen espoused about how in the future things like beyond meat will be forced upon the masses while the rich enjoy the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:38 AM
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You can try and make some kind of incremental point about how someone like Elon Musk takes advantage of the existing systems and exacerbates the wealth divide, but who is rewarding the Musks of the world? Why is it that the more a woman makes the harder it is for her to find a relationship? Why is it that there have been predictions by large financial institutions that more and more working class women will be single in the near future? Women haven been taking over education for a while now and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:21 AM
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Lmao you think Elon is the reason 30% of men are virgins and women are having sex with the same men? At every range of N counts women have more partners, except the top where 28.3% of men who are having sex with the rest of the women in sexual abundance (15+ partners). Do you not see that disparity? 1/3 are sexless while 1/3 live like kings. This is also tied to the growing wealth disparity as women look for partners making more than them. The point is it would seem to me that while women have n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:10 AM
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As far as I'm concerned, you are the threat to me that wants to force me into being a sex toy or an incubator. That's essentially what you've said. I'll be clear that I was playing along with OP's premise, I do not agree with it as a matter of policy, but I do agree with the underlying principle. It seems women are much more grateful to modern society despite being liberally minded or what have you, so much so that they would rather human extinction (unironically) than a removal of privileges/fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:56 PM
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Just more proof of the rugged individualism of the modern world where one can't look beyond their own interest, funny enough someone like you shouldn't have been born according to op thanks to their twisted naturalistic eugenic take on survival of the fittest. If we went with that take, you wouldn't have a choice and would be raped if not protected by a group of men. Also, I have commented repeatedly here about how the consequences of modern living are thanks to capitalism's atomization and alie…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:38 PM
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lol there is no caging in removing privileges and amenities invented in recent times, but hey women not fucking the top 30% is horrifying I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:26 PM
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Machiavellianism seems to be an attractive trait, idk
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:14 PM
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Yes being viscerally desired is one of the best things in existence and men would rate physical intimacy as the ultimate style of expressing love, how is that odd?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:12 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:11 PM
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Seemed to suggest men settle as they get older more than anything. Also: Brendan Zietsch, from the University of Queensland and who was not involved in the survey, said the study reinforced previous findings that men and women differed somewhat in their stated preferences in a potential partner. But he said a growing body of research suggested that what people said they wanted in a partner did not necessarily correspond to the choices they made. “Essentially, we don’t know the extent to which th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:02 PM
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What was about him that attracted you physically and opened you to loving him? Also, how would you rate yourself, any aspects of yourself that might be important you left out (being fat or disfigured)?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:55 PM
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I have wondered at times whether this is one of the barriers in the Fermi paradox, but then keep thinking it's too ridiculous to be the case, I guess we'll see.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:20 PM
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lol I disagree, society will never accept the dissolution of monogamy as it is the foundation of society, if anything there would be more conservatism and reactionary actions like the Roe V Wade judgement. There is a difference between society being destroyed and built again with the old as the foundation by the hand of revolutionaries, and society killing itself. Why would they ever do the latter? To appease women? bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:17 PM
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lmao the pedantry is off the charts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:13 PM
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They don't get that you're not some aberration or monster that has trounced upon their moral systems, but the reality of human nature unbound by the modern social dogma of individualism, we are a social species, looking out for the group before the self in such a manner is normal. We've only been trained and enslaved to think otherwise, just as the druids normalized human sacrifice such that it was a commonality. Society creates it's own gravediggers, even if you "killed yourself" like they want…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:10 PM
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Thank capitalism, this stuff was already predicted centuries ago when the circumstances were self-evident, but since this messaging is obviously not going to come down from the ruling class who control the media and spirit of the era, it remains the minority thought with little power for most of it's time, until things bubble up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:06 PM
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Also, if a certain subset of men could get pregnant just like women, there would probably still be mass chattel slavery. It's less about women themselves than it is about the role they necessarily have occupied in humanity given their biological capabilities. In the future we will very likely, if we make it long enough which we should tbh, have a whole generation where a large minority were born through an aritifical womb. Would be very interesting to see how dynamics change following that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:03 PM
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None of that goes against survival of the fittest, the point is that your arguments are contradictory because of a loose morality without a codified system of values, besides a general circumstantial interest that seems to favour women. That is not a special detriment, most people don't actually care enough to understand what or why they care about things, it's just annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:57 PM
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That is a given? I find it hilarious how impossible it seems for so many here (I keep forgetting how middle class people are here) that some would think about the world at large before themselves. Yes, some people look past the hedonistic consumerist lifestyle that has been forcefed since birth to us and actually carry principles and not societal dogma.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:56 PM
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All freedoms are but privileges and men have given up privileges for women already, but if you choose to ignore this and ask even more, then as much as I value freedom on the extreme end I would support slavery if the other option was the existential threat of species non existence. Note, the subjugation of women here I've asked you about is not a question of policy, but principles and values. Now are you never going to answer the question or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:52 PM
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huh? Yes many men would be willing to have less freedom to avoid extinction whether it be for men of their own ilk or an outside group of men. And this has already been the case for lesser issue such as women's rights. Now, since you didn't answer my question I'm guessing no, you don't see the collective interest of human existence as above individual freedoms? I take it this is just one manifestation of capitalism's successful championing of individualism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:47 PM
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Saving this as a quote later to confirm my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:44 PM
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The beatings will continue until morale improves
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:40 PM
0

Would you rather human extinction than that? Honest question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:39 PM
2

So guessing you're not a utilitarian lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:37 PM
3

Yup, women like all animals including men will act in their best immediate interest only 99% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:36 PM
2

rofl that just turns soft harems into hard harems and is a steady track to either state intervention of some kind of forced monogamy in fear of the action men with nothing to lose might take, or the normalization of polygyny relationship and even hard legalization. Imagine relying on the state to be competent enough to follow social trends in the pursuit of acting in it's best interest, they're too slow to even do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:35 PM
2

Yes, once you accept that then as you wallow in your loneliness that is as bad for your health as smoking 15 cigarettes a day, you can focus on more important things like making sure your overlords are able to accumulate more capital and that the divide is even steeper! Happiness has never been the pursuit of human society, consider it a mercy you get to live a longer slave life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:30 PM
1

Many of them choose not to get it. "It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on not understanding it". When the truth battles the interest of an individual or groups' interest, their interest wins out. I don't even think most women should be. Most of our parents shouldn't have reproduced and gave birth to us lol. With medical advancements and widespread availability of them, people who shouldn't be alive are alive today. Most people should not be reproducing. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:27 PM
-2

The way things are going, don't be surprised if certain nations try getting ahead of the curve and start pushing those measures yet again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:22 PM
2

Add religion into that mix which helped enforce marriage. One of the major reasons I'm not redpill is because too many of them are unironic regressivists who are too in love with capitalism to realize you can't pick and choose piecemeal what aspects of society you'd want, since the past society lead us to our current one. Blame the alienization and atomization of society that has lead to communities being destroyed even in the 'connected' era of human existence via the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:18 PM
7

Yup, because society needs to be able to exploit them for as long as possible and less people will be up for that. Be a happy virgin wageslave until death while the upper class fuck all of your strata like sex toys, for her empowerment!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:11 PM
0

Oldest profession
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:04 PM
5

Like I've said, blue pill is just the black pill with glitter on it. Reality is cruel but counter messaging from cradle to coffin has dressed it up with just world fallacy time and time again. Then men get upset when they see the natural world is preserved in survival of the fittest, but not when it comes to equal treatment and privileges for women. Also, your whole shit about people "shouldn't have reproduced" not only goes against survival of the fittest, it is also inconsistent unless you als…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:57 PM
2

Women generally prefer moderately disagreeable and moderately strict/conservative men (don't mean politically), they see "being nicer" as being a doormat and beta even if you're not actually being a doormat. This is also in line with how men who are benevolently sexist are seen as more attractive than men who are hostilely sexist or egalitarian. Basically - possess traditional masculine traits that in modern times are attacked and their importance are diminished in discourse but not reality, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:46 AM
2

because as evidenced by people's choices in the real world, we see that people of all kinds of sexual backgrounds are in committed, loving relationships. Most people end up with similar N count partners. I'm not asking for people to make impossible statements speaking for larger groups of people that they could never speak for, so it's cool. How is anything I've said an impossible statement, when currently and throughout human history promiscuity has been looked down upon? To you-- what is a hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:22 AM
1

what if someone is going through their adult life and they haven't found the ideal partner and relationship yet? Should they just be abstinent? huh, how many people find ideal? lol they settle. If they don't settle and don't find their ideal than of the 2 options: run through people for casual sex or being "chaste" (in actuality read as just masturbate), is it hard to see which would be more desirable for a long term relationship? Also, this might go in contrast with the narrative of this sub, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:47 AM
2

I mean do you think people don't get judged for the people they choose to date? Sometimes a person will have some shocking secret on the rare occasion, but usually people around you and/or them know what's up and the reality is people willingly put on blinders because of [insert assortment of desirable characteristics]. If they were naive and didn't vet properly, that's also not an attractive quality. edit: also if this is happening repeatedly...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:37 AM
0

Couldn't they say the same thing about people that can't find a serious relationship They do, nothing new. Also, what do you mean about casual sex? Are you against it or just saying you don't care? Well personally, if it was a one off college thing I wouldn't give af, but I mean generally the values associated with that kind of stuff are disgusting and unattractive, especially if there's an attempt to minimize or conceal it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:06 AM
4

hmm interesting, maybe in the past but nowadays people are more willing to openly act against their faith's doctrine and messaging (in the west) such that they are atheists in practice. Depends where you live, but if you're in an American big city I would say that would definitely go against the bluepill.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:03 AM
0

Yeah but people are usually monogamous and aren't having casual sex, if they are 'serially monogamous' that is a red flag, why can't they keep a serious relationship? As for casual sex - lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:58 AM
1

why do you have a bluepill flair lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:56 AM
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Higher than average for your age. Also, I'll do the math in my head to see how long your relationships have lasted on average and why you can't seem to hold anything down for good despite multiple chances. General average for a woman is something like 4, so any woman who treats 10 like average is a redflag. Edit: lol this is a perfectly reasonable and common take but this is what gets downvoted? Being too ashamed to even defend your actions in an anonymous message board says a lot...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:54 AM
5

Women viewed men as less masculine when holding the cat; higher in neuroticism, agreeableness, and openness; and less dateable. rofl
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:52 AM
1

You wouldn't use a word when defining it duh. Well the path of least resistance for a bi man would be to find a man lol, and haven't women been espousing that by "understanding women" they would find it much easier to get into a relationship than straight men who largely wouldn't? I guess it just comes down to men being easier then.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:44 AM
1

lol besides it not being as hard as you make it seem to actually get in a same sex relationship , even if we were to take what you presented as a given this would at best apply more to women which makes it suspicious on either their dating habits or their true feelings on same sex vs opposite sex relationships. A man can fuck like a king compared to a peasant if he were open to same sex fucking instead of being straight, in fact much of the STD concerns in the gay community besides being more li…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:21 AM
1

lmao so just flexing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 03:25 AM
1

Discussions like these irl and online are what made me realize that blue pill is just the honey coated version of black pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 03:21 AM
1

Seeing all these comments flooded with "D - Female" is killing me ngl, women are really wanting a sponge and safety net, y'all do have family and friends right???
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:08 AM
1

Probably E but with some considerations - I'm Male. A and C don't matter to me, I can get B from friends and while it's important and intimate it's not the MOST intimate, D I can get from a therapist or friend or family and I don't think being a safety net is nearly the most intimate thing. That leaves physical intimacy, and most people aren't giving it out just like that thereby doing it with you is a special thing and it usually cultivates feelings between the two. And of course it's a great e…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:59 AM
2

Link to original thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:14 AM
2

1.) inherently an acknowledgment that you do not find those relationships equivalent They're not though right? We're not talking about her coming out as a lesbian and the relaitonship being over, this is a bi woman. And who do bi women end up with? Men. Bi men end up with women. There's obviously something the opposite sex is offering that therefore is more attractive to a relationship for a bi person. It's still cheating and many would leave off principle, though their reaction would probably b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:51 AM
1

There has definitely been more of a focus on certain aspects - muscles & height. With more exaggerated manifestations of these things, ideal male presented in media physique wise and height preferences/standards just keep increasing. Oh yeah and steroid use lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 06:15 PM
1

huh stats show women are more racist in that area under the guise of 'preference' lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:57 PM
1

Why would you want someone who thinks hedonism with the most intimate thing you can do with someone is an acceptable thing. If they think that's fun maybe they need to get a sex toy or watch some porn instead. Especially since so many not only dehumanize others as part of it, they do it callously and speak openly about it, "he was just a dildo to me". Disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:41 PM
2

She wouldn't be believed though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:35 PM
3

....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:25 PM
4

like women having sex with men more attractive than they could get as boyfriends don't see them as living dildos?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 10:02 PM
3

no way
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 09:14 PM
2

wtf why is there someone with a brain here???
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 09:13 PM
1

This is real, finding someone that feels more than tolerable and drives you can drastically change your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:31 PM
3

Standing out but not by being a clown, their vocabulary being prettier than "bruh" or "queen", dressing well, and reciprocating interest. Being forward, being independent, and not having brain rot from social media basically checks all these boxes. Of course also some indeterminate level of physical attraction, but not that high a standard. Big red flag: Yelling. If she ever tries to yell at me like some wild animal she can gtfo
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:23 PM
1

Typically, they just won’t want to open up that far and you can just write them off as a misfit. Fair. Everyone knows about rules 1 and 2, but even more important is rule 0: don’t be a complete fucking idiot. That’s how you get a kidney stolen. A desperate gullible sucker born every minute!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:51 PM
3

So basically just hope they get caught out by having to tell more lies, which you can hardly, if ever, verify. Meanwhile most guys are happy to eat up all the dogshit getting sold to them thinking the woman they like is actually into them and being sincere.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:43 PM
3

lol how would they vet in a practical way that gets around her just lying? At least with addicts they will usually tell you because often they'll just stand out if they particularly never drink in social gatherings + as a partner they might need you to lean on, they might go to meetings, or perform their own rituals to get through it. People can go from casual sex sluts to monogamous vanilla without withdrawals and ticks. It's like shapeshifting into another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:32 PM
1

Comparing it to addiction is weird, since most people wouldn't want to date addicts even if they've gone sober.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:08 PM
1

Has men being consistently treated as disposable and the recent independence of women with their education and entering the workforce lead to this low self-esteem of men? No longer being needed means so many of us feel like we have to settle for anything? That we are the ones who have to offer value but are valueless? So many are chasing the women that would be considered undesirable and condemned in the past. Like you said, that shit is the minimum...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:48 PM
0

That's what I'm fucking saying, why are other men denigrating themselves like this? Why the anger at inconsistency? Her being a slut in the past should be their problem, why are they trying to cuff a slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:02 PM
4

LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:00 PM
3

Sucks having to live with this being normalized more and more. But hey, the atomization of society has it's consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 09:59 PM
2

I don't think you were over the top at all, that is the mindset these people have. They see others as sex toys and a means of validation. They detach the intimacy of sex and then try to change the talking points in defending their actions when they try to lock someone long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 09:56 PM
8

This is the mindset people really have it seems nowadays, and they excuse it with "I was young" or by shitting on those they were intimate with. As if that isn't a red flag and something most people just don't do anyway so their excuses aren't some magic disregard button.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 09:45 PM
4

The whole dehumanization I see around casual sex were people just see others as sex toys on legs, just as a means to please them is honestly sickening. Basically just sexual misanthropy, that's despicable. Honestly while using men for resources is also nasty, there's at least often a reason of being dependent on him for her survival or the survival of her family. If she can provide for herself and still does it though, definitely no sympathy. I will usually see the sexual dehumanization as worse…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 09:39 PM
1

lol all good
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 07:00 AM
1

comment was removed, do you still have the link?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 06:56 AM
2

"if you're not in the nba you're defective tbh" If only I could shoot 3s like curry...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:57 AM
1

A push for more monogamy would solve all that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 12:18 AM
1

Yeah, niche demographics are often going to be clustered around each other. The more you zoom out the more you see how much your location, class, race, profession, family and one's standard for the same in a partner do to limit the pool of general options. Even if those aren't the "real" options one would interact with frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 07:43 PM
2

Is there one of these for stats on women? A person can find the numbers themselves but it's more time consuming. edit: nvm found it https://realitycalc.com/ got 18.23% 2/5 red pills down to earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 05:40 PM
1

So in the case of someone “using” the other for consensual sex, it’s not true objectification Rofl. Fucking around dehumanizing people as a means for you to get off like a living dildo, is the definition of objectification, that doesn't change because the person agreed. The excuses lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:43 PM
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