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He does raise a good point wrt boobjobs
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:50 PM
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Wall e is from the POV of a trash packing robot
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:50 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:48 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:33 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:23 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:14 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:10 PM
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How dare I expect quality content when deciding what to do on my free time?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:03 PM
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Which goes to prove my point further. If even I'm telling you porn is boring, how can it cater to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:56 PM
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If that was it, wouldn't that mean I'd have no standards for porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:18 PM
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I would've noticed by now if it catered to men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:07 PM
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Either way, the argument of it being catered to men is very shaky given how boring it is
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:56 PM
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They could at least try making it look real
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:47 PM
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No, I want to be viewed as a sex toy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:46 PM
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And even if that did happen....what would that accomplish?? It would make porn not boring. Maybe even get me to watch it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:23 PM
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Myself. And OP, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:54 PM
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Finding hot women and showing them turned into a panting mess sounds like a good start
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:03 PM
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I meant George
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:53 PM
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And how it shows the woman is so boring
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:37 PM
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That doesn't mean it caters to (straight) men. I'm not into men. Why would I want to watch men getting reduced to a panting mess?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:22 PM
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As a man, I'm qualified to tell you porn is quite boring. Maybe porn is made for lizard people then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:00 PM
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many gay guys still date ON GRIND That's the difference. There's a reason why whenever an user here says dating as a man is hard, others will chime in to say they could log on Grindr. Which is true, because gay men actually are into men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:51 PM
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Don't know, I don't really watch porn, so I'm just talking off of stuff out of curiosity. But what I've noticed is there's rarely a focus on anyone's pleasure. Plenty of sad excuses for foreplay that involve zero erogenous zones. Even when the penis does get some attention, they neglect the frenulum.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:43 PM
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you have the kind of views about women that ASSURE me a woman will never see you as a fellow human being Mission accomplished, then
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:35 PM
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Then I would've noticed that it isn't boring
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:44 PM
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Angry? I feel like a gigachad knowing I'm more intimidating than a bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:26 PM
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Most porn is made for men I would've noticed by now if that was true
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:20 PM
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nice guy getting the girl I'm sure that was Back to the Future
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:17 PM
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I'm not sure the porn industry is built around men's sexual interests either. I would've noticed by now if it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:15 PM
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Are you queer by any chance? I've noticed non queer leftists are often very anti porn, while queer leftists are generally supportive, even if both groups agree on pretty much the same issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:10 PM
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We all know Neil Gaiman never existed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:54 PM
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have long/feminine hair, high voices, feminine mannerisms, shave in all the “woman” places, and wear exclusively women’s clothes Bullshit. Good luck getting me to be into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:24 PM
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Guess so
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:10 PM
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If you can't find a gf it's probably your personality. Comphet is literally everywhere. Ever tried taking a shower?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:32 PM
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Send him my condolences then
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:20 PM
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not trying to be with you But you are with other men, and how you proceed affects the incentives they have. Only having sex with men who prove to be safe is effectively an incentive for "good" behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:57 PM
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Why isn't it worth it in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:45 PM
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It's not a privilege to have the bulk of your prospective partners not actually be into you and only pursue you due to comphet. That shows during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:39 PM
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Then only have sex with men you're attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:34 PM
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Then you literally are incentivising asshole behaviour. If you're treating access to your body as a prize for good conduct, I have every reason to act in a manner that will filter out women like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:33 PM
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They don't need to
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:31 PM
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If you don't enjoy sex as it is Then either have different sex or don't have it at all. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:22 PM
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If it's a part of it, she never deserved me in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:20 PM
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But it's not other people having sex for you. You're having sex, and you decide what to do during it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:17 PM
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Then they'd be having sex that leads them to orgasm instead of looking for excuses
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:15 PM
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Rooting for it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:14 PM
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It must be so flattering that she chose me simply because I seemed like a safe option
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:13 PM
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If you keep acting like sex is so terrible, then you sreally shouldn't be having it then
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:08 PM
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So you don't need to
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:59 PM
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With a Z score of 8.6? Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:57 PM
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That's only because women have sex with men they're not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:56 PM
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There's no such thing as actual sex. Sex is just people deriving pleasure from each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:55 PM
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A part which you don't enjoy. I think people should do stuff they enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:53 PM
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Like I said, he enjoys anything we do But you don't
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:50 PM
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All claims are valid if you ignore every single exception
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:49 PM
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If that was true, I wouldn't care if women are only having sex due to comphet or not, yet I clearly care enough to challenge you on this
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:47 PM
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Is divorce an option? I don't really think staying is healthy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:45 PM
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If you're not orgasming, then you don't need to be having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:39 PM
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Men will never be pregnant Many actually do, and those who do face a lot of systemic discrimination by the healthcare system
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:30 PM
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Then what you're after is the relationship, not the person. You're not into men; you're into heterosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:21 PM
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Ok. In your example, why wouldn't I get pleasure from it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:19 PM
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Not what I'm doing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:17 PM
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If you get to have sex with someone you're ostensibly attracted to, and still compare it to giving stuff away for free, you were simply not into that person
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:38 AM
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If you expect mutual attraction, the only option for men will be other men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:30 AM
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Sure they aren't dangerous but they do make me disgusted and makes me not want to date. Huh
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:28 AM
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I guess if she's always acted shy, not just around me, I could make some concessions. Good luck working on your confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:00 AM
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I think an importan question is whether she only started performing attraction after getting to know me for a while. If she needs to personally care about me as a person, that's a requirement that exists in lieu of desire as an excuse to maintain the myth of heterosexuality. Next, let's say I give her a chance and we end up having sex. Is everything supposed to be about her? By this I don't mean her pleasure, but about her attractiveness. Is it only her who's supposed to turn me on, and not the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:43 AM
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What I'm after is a woman who can reciprocate my desire for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:32 AM
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I've had the chance to be in comphet-driven relationships before. I'm sure I still could if I created a Bumble account.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 11:52 PM
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That's exactly my point. For previous generations of women, it was easier to believe men were superior. Now that young single women are outearning men in several cities, the illusion is no longer believable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:23 PM
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Because of comphet
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:47 PM
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Because women's economic position is better now, but they are still socialised with the expectation of male superiority
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:27 PM
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Society has been founded on heteronormativity and the expectation that women should partner up with men. Additionally, the notion of male superiority made women need to find a man to be superior to her in any shape or form before performing interest towards him. This used to be easier to believe before most women had a job. So there are two factors driving this phenomenom: As society has become more progressive, more women are coming to accept that they never liked men in the first place. Try lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:11 PM
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Well, I am
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:20 AM
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What else would the other traits be for?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:16 PM
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Yes, this is because they're not actually into men, and thus look for other traits as excuses to perform heterosexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:05 PM
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I’m not even sure how to debate this huh
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:51 PM
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That's unrelated to my question
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:32 PM
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Ok, but are these attractive women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:49 PM
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So you can literally be hanging feminists while also having propertied women AND also having a state where 100% of the positions of power are women? Very interesting indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:48 PM
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And why women were legally allowed to have a bank account or buy a vehicle without a man's signature in the 1960's and 1970's That already was a thing in the Netherlands centuries ago. I could also find sources on Ancient Assyria for propertied women. So where were their feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:44 PM
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Literally when did feminists ever support that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:40 PM
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Ok, then what in particular about those games is objectifying of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:37 PM
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They completely missing the point of why feminism is important to begin with. Which is?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:36 PM
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I'm looking them up and none come close. Anyway, The Witcher is a great w in my favour here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:33 PM
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Oh, that totally explains why they harass trans and GNC women!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:30 PM
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I'd struggle to name 10 games that objectify women more than BG3. I know I'm not much of a gamer, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:25 PM
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Where does it say so?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:21 PM
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Fanservice aimed at (straight) men is quite uncommon. You yourself admitted BG3 was the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:20 PM
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Completely unrelated but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:17 PM
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Exactly, which means male fanservice is still more common
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:16 PM
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Baldur's Gate had equal opportunity fanservice and thats why it was seen as so revolutionary. That's exactly my point
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:15 PM
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Horror film: Nosferatu Video games: eh, I guess there was a lot of female fanservice in BG3. That one's an exception though. GoT: you mean the show where Jason Momoa appears?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:11 PM
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Ok, that still doesn't answer where the supposedly ubiquitous female fanservice is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:08 PM
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Literally where is the sexual objectification of women you're talking about? Until very recently, men were more likely to be sexually objectified. The Street Fighter series always had more male than female fanservice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:05 PM
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Would you happen to have any sources on trans women seeking abortions?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:52 PM
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Where are you learning all this? Reading feminist literature
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 10:37 AM
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That's not even peer reviewed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:02 AM
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Ace women are valid
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:22 AM
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None of that is a contradiction. In fact, such bonds are often the result of such socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:18 AM
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Where is the contradiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:11 AM
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If you're being chosen for long term qualities why would you think you're her only option? The only option with those qualities, probably. Those can be kind of specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:10 AM
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They totally can and do cry. That's because of comphet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:03 AM
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Women totally can develop emotional bonds to men. In fact, it seems to be the only thing the majority of women ever manage to do wrt men within their partnerships. They believe wanting to want someone is the same as wanting them, and men generally never realise until their wives become r/latebloomerlesbians users.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:59 AM
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It means women are socialised into seeing partnered life (namely, with a man) as ideal, and thus form emotional attachments to the idea
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:53 AM
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Compulsory heterosexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:48 AM
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If women toss men to the side with no emotions, why have I personally cried over at least 6 men? And have consoled and supported friends through their breakups at least 100 times by now. Because of comphet
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:45 AM
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Why are so many men desperate to be seen as disposable and indistinguishable from each other? Because it's not fun if I'm her only option and just get picked by default
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:41 AM
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mainstream preference for all women to have entirely hairless prepubescent bodies from the eyebrows down [citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:35 AM
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idk I feel old as fuck at 27
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:09 PM
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I'm sure everything gets old fast. That's how dopamine works.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:51 PM
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You can’t fall in love with someone if you don’t like their personality I'm not sure lust has to answer to personality
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:48 PM
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Because I don't want a woman who is comphet-driven. I don't want her to need excuses like my personality for why she should be into me; I want her to be into me. Ig that would be easier to avoid if I had none of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:24 PM
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Well, you said you what you cared about was personality, style and kindness. I have every reason to want to drive that kind of woman away.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:48 AM
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Why should I be obligated to be with a woman who only cares who I am as a person?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:39 AM
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That wasn't what we were discussing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:30 PM
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I really don't see the connection therr since spending time at the gym is not mutually exclusive with wanting to eat. In fact, you nerd calories if you want the gym to pay off.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:18 PM
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Either way, you didn't mention any of it when I asked what you were after
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:59 PM
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Hairy fat strong guys, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:49 PM
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I think that's just known as a fat guy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:45 PM
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But you didn't mention bears when I asked you what you look for. And it's not like a bear build is easy to get without hitting the gym either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:34 PM
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Because you don't see men as sex toys. You're not into men; you're into heterosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:21 PM
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And that's exactly why I should dismiss your objection to hitting the gym as irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:14 PM
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Then what do you look for in men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:53 PM
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I believe there's a small subset of women who are into men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:30 PM
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Where's the contradiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:03 PM
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None of that addresses my point, which is that attraction to either set of traits is not indicative of sexual orientation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:25 PM
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That will only serve to induce comphet. I'd be shooting myself on the foot by making it harder to filter out women who are not into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:21 PM
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There are masculine women and feminine men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:20 PM
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men are sexually and physically attracted to masculine traits and features more than they are feminine ones That has nothing to do with being heterosexual or not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:07 PM
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I just started hitting the gym and I can tell you I'm not at all trying to appeal to men. I already appeal to men quite well, so there'd be no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:38 PM
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We have enough straight identified women trying to convince us Margot Robbie is anything but mid, so that's only fair
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:26 PM
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Unfortunately, I think words should have a meaning
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:18 PM
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But they don't spend time making themselves more attractive, which is what we're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:41 PM
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All they cared about was who I was as a person, so it was not actual desire. They just expected me to be an excuse for why they'd perform heterosexuality. When you actually are heterosexual, you don't need an excuse, because you have desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:46 PM
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What I'm saying is women rarely ever do stuff that improves their attractiveness. It's generally men you'll find hitting the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:08 PM
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Gender affirming procedures don't always make you hot. There are ugly masculine men and ugly feminine women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:38 PM
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Maybe that's because you just admitted the men you know want to pretend tbey're the main character
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:21 PM
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What you listed is entirely unrelated to attractiveness at best and an attractiveness handicap at worst
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:01 PM
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None of those have anything to do with attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:56 PM
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Nice try. The reason I'm most likely to reject a woman for is if it feels like she cares about me as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:55 PM
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We do more than women do, at least. It wasn't women who invented looksmaxxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:53 PM
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I'd call it more of a symptom of the issues than anything else. This dynamic can only happen if women are much less likely to be into men than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:43 PM
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That a woman, especially one attractive enough for me to be interested, wouldn't have a sizeable pool of dicks lined up for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:38 PM
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It's not my problem if other guys have issues of their own to work through. Especially since that would require women to pretend something that isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:34 PM
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There will always be undue advantages in sports. No matter how well I train, I'll never be as good as MBJ at basketball, because I'm significantly shorter than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:28 PM
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What do you mean by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:26 PM
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I recommend garlic bread
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:16 PM
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Men literally do not see the women they find sexy as people, they see them as entirely interchangeable If only women could be like that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:15 PM
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They assimilate until they don't. The healthcare system is known for structural discrimination against masculine-presenting people who need gynecological treatments. If you think society is harsh against women seeking an abortion, wait until you hear about men seeking an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:13 PM
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Yep, femme trans women are the most oppressed group of all. Meanwhile, masc trans women are doing amazing!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:02 PM
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Tomboys are not at all accepted. Imame Khelif got harassed to hell for not being feminine enough. This is because it's masculinity that our society is biased against.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 11:58 AM
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But from the moment a girl is born people talk about how pretty she is and put her in pretty clothes and all the story books stress stuff about girls’ looks and there are very few cues about what makes a boy “handsome.” It’s literally fucking everywhere. Every aunt comes over with “pretty clothes.” Every cartoon has a male character going NUTS over a beautiful female character. This is totally unrelated to attraction Megan Fox was super hot in that scene [citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:12 AM
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That men actually are into women. Women will rarely ever perform attraction if they don't already personally care about the man in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:11 AM
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What I'm saying is I know what the performance of attraction women make looks like
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:00 AM
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Parents don't know shit about that stuff. I know this for a fact bc my dad swears my sexual awakening was when I was 10 and I saw the Megan Fox scene in Transformers 2 at the cinema with him. I literally don't remember any of that. I mean, I do know what scene he's talking about, it's THE scene people bring up when bringing up the movie. But I really don't recall myself watching the scene at the cinema. The film was very confusing, in my defence. But I'm sure I defenitely wouldn't forget somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:59 AM
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They acted interested in me. Looking for excuses to be near me, listening to whatever music I said I liked, the usual fare. But that didn't mean they could think of me as an object. I'm sure they did want to want me. But that is not the same as wanting me. What they actually wanted was heterosexuality, and I simply was the vessel through which they managed to convince themselves they were heterosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:48 AM
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Interested in me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:37 AM
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I do. I just don't recall ever being trained.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:36 AM
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What you're describing as depth simply is what needs to exist in absence of attraction. It's women clinging to any trait they can pretend to be interested in to fill the gap left by comphet. What most women will do is look for excuses to perform attraction towards men. Men generally don't need an excuse, because we already have attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:05 AM
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For instance, does she only begin acting that way after getting to know me for a while? If so, she most likely only cares about me as a person and expects that to be enough to carry the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:59 AM
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all of us - ALL of us - are trained from infancy to know what a pretty woman looks like I must have missed that part. Help, the Men In Black erased my memories!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:31 AM
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Most Women want to have sex with men That's called comphet
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:29 AM
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the world of straight women is very very diffent from that of queer women So women with enough self awareness to notice they're not into men and openness to experience to try out stuff they weren't socialised into behave different from other women. More news at 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:29 AM
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I've seen what that looks like. Some of those women have even performed attraction towards me. It's not actual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:27 AM
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You get the comphet-afflicted women to leave me alone too and it's a deal
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:25 AM
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Might be wanting them to have aex within hours of knowing/spending time with you There sure is a reason for women not liking that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:24 AM
-2

That they're most likely not straight
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:23 AM
-5

A lot of my straight female friends are pretty open about wishing they were attracted to women Tell them I have great news And there just isn't the stigma about female homosexuality that there is about male. And yet guys generally have no problem finding other guys willing to have sex. In fact, it's significantly easier than finding women willing to have sex, even in some very conservative areas. This is despite gay and bi men already being a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:06 AM
1

Yes, it's women who describe men as the worst
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:47 PM
0

It's not, that's why the go to markets for less desirable women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:51 PM
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We didn't start the fire
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:34 PM
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Or, we could do both options. Not mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:25 PM
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The only reason warm apptoaches are more likely to work is comphet. Men who do only those are bound to end up with women who can't reciprocate the attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:12 PM
1

It just means women are not into men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:50 PM
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So you literally have men leaving women alone, which is what you asked for, and you're still complaining? There never is a way to win as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:20 PM
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I’m not going to prioritize your feelings over my safety That's your prerogative. It still doesn't mean nice men owe you any attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:06 PM
2

14% is easily achievable even for sedentary men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:41 PM
1

No, I care too much about looks and she's also a feminist, which might be dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:34 PM
1

It truly must be an achievement for me to have a porn rotten brain without watching porn
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:26 PM
1

women get wet when seeing women with aspirational bodies They definitely don't need to be aspirational most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:30 PM
1

No
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 12:15 PM
1

A lot of people lack basic self respect
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:22 AM
1

So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:47 AM
-1

What evidence do you have of her actually being into me when she clearly only cared about who I was as a person?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:28 AM
0

Where did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:22 AM
3

Why would I be hurting?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:04 AM
2

Because of comphet
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:51 AM
1

There is no indication of any of that in your comment above
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:50 AM
0

Ace women are so valid
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:28 AM
0

A conclusion which I came out on my own way before ever being anywhere near yellow pilled, and also before being aware that she was interested in a relationship with me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:25 AM
5

If by dating success, you mean getting to validate a woman's comphet by letting her pretend she's into me, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:23 AM
-7

Men hate us Quite the projection
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:15 AM
7

Women will say the worst things about men and then wrap it up with "totally straight btw"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:46 AM
0

Or, just maybe, it's about finally finding out what romantic success actually looks like and realising there never was attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:45 AM
-11

You know how men love to taunt women by telling us we become expired and old and dusty and disgusting after 25 or 30 and cry out “where have all the good men gone???” This is literally made up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:36 AM
10

Very telling that the only way to orgasm was with a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:35 AM
-1

*Straight-identified women are everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:31 AM
0

I'd be more afraid of her staying when she was never into me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:29 AM
1

How the fuck is that devaluing women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:11 AM
1

Literally where?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 12:40 AM
-1

So your claim is true because some rando said it on reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:00 PM
-2

I'll take thar as a no
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:19 PM
-5

So no APA citation, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:14 PM
-5

Our RMV/ SMV goes down with every new partner Source: trust me, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:59 PM
1

That has no relation to the post but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:34 PM
1

Coming
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:32 PM
-1

Source: trust me, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:31 PM
1

I'd most likely not be attracted to men anyway, so no
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:57 PM
5

I'm personally not one to be that much into gift giving. It's certainly not about being more or less, but I might simply think we're not compatible if it's too often.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:56 PM
1

why are they seeking out prostitutes and sex workers, women who they know do not love them I think that's the point. Love is one of the cheat codes of all time. The other, of course, being money, so I find neither alternative categorically different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:43 PM
1

I'm pretty sure that's because women their age are not interested, so they go to less competitive markets
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:41 AM
2

Question: why should men over 30 give a fuck about what some mid 20 year old thinks about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:33 AM
2

Because I actually expect a woman to be attracted to me if we're going to date instead of having comphet drive the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:06 AM
1

Same goes for women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:28 PM
2

You could be the funny guy who makes women laugh, the muscular guy who built his body in the gym, the smart guy with a great degree, the guy who's financially skilled, the fun guy who has a range of hobbies, the tattooed guy etc etc etc. All of them still have comphet make up at least 90% of all attention (from women, that is)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:20 PM
1

I didn't know HRT was cheap
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:16 PM
1

straight cis men don’t go for rough butch lesbians Those are some of the hottest women out there
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:11 PM
12

The wall actually does apply to uterus havers who want biological children of their own. If this is not you, then it might as well not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:13 PM
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That I am currently logged into a vast network of users that is organised around distinct forums, which generally have a specific theme
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:40 AM
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him hitting and choking women That's actually what appeals to women: https://aella.substack.com/p/women-prefer-more-violent-porn-and
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:24 AM
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Very perceptive, aren't we?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:20 AM
2

It's all sunshine and rainbows until you realise your gf isn't actually into you either
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:33 AM
-1

We do because there's little evidence to support the notion of women's performance of attraction being tied to actual desire
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:31 AM
-1

It actually is taking what had been found by Charles Moser to be present in 93% of cis women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:28 PM
-1

This is exactly why I don't think porn is meant to appeal to (straight) men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:28 PM
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I agree that autosexuality exists in people of any gender identity. What does stand out in most straight-identified women is the lack of any meaningful externally targeted attraction, meaning that for them, it only ever is autogynephilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:27 PM
0

My cock
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 08:35 PM
-12

If we think biologically these phenomena make sense - a man can impregnate many women, whereas a woman can only carry one pregnancy at a time If we decided to go along with your TERF narrative of reducing women to a uterus, then your objections still shouldn't apply to infertile women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:01 PM
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I sure love when gender essentialism
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:58 PM
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If women simply ignored me I wokldn't have reason to agree wiith OP. Instead, women do occasionally perform interest towards me despite no underlying attraction. So definitely something is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:57 PM
1

Then you should see what they say about MGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:32 PM
1

Didn't you hear men who are not female centric are misogynists?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:04 PM
5

I'd rather die an incel
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:18 PM
1

Correction: a nice guy can easily find a woman willing to be with him entirely out of comphet. If you actually have standards and expect your attraction to be reciprocated, you're in tough luck. Not even chads find that most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:48 PM
-1

If Sydney Sweeney wanted to date you, would you really be worried about whether she wanted a deep connection centered on emotional intelligence? Either way, it's lose-lose
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:57 AM
1

It's not my business if they do
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 11:47 PM
0

Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 11:57 AM
-1

Source: trust me, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 12:47 AM
1

…is getting a tongue on your clit even painful?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 12:10 AM
4

That it's all comphet
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:51 PM
4

Women like that do exist in some capacity, but are so few and far between that most of the attention chads get will still be comphet
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:40 PM
1

Bi women aren't real most of the time either
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:36 PM
3

Incels believe in chadexuality. Try going on that sub claiming chads get genuine desire and see how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:35 PM
0

Wouldyou happen to have a guide on how to be the perfect chaser?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:33 PM
0

Then women would simply be having forms of sex that don't lead to pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:31 PM
1

So do a lot of aces
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:26 PM
1

That's called comphet
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:25 PM
-3

Projection sure is weird
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:24 PM
4

The fuck does hugging have to do with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:24 PM
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I don't feel like I need to engage with people who are fine with ace erasure
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 08:26 PM
5

I already told you aces are valid
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 08:15 PM
2

They'd behave like it if that was true
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 08:15 PM
4

That's not the same as attraction. The women in question simply like LARPing as heterosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 07:35 PM
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He is, but it's comphet most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 07:10 PM
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So sad
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 07:09 PM
5

I cannot imagine a majority of women on the dating market, actively dating men, are lesbians... True. Aces are also real.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 07:08 PM
1

New? The concept is from the 80s.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 07:05 PM
0

Women will still perform attraction for men. Doesn't mean they're into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 07:04 PM
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And of course, becoming worse means not pursuing relationships with women. Because we all know what we think of men who are not female centric.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 07:03 PM
1

Sounds like comphet but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:56 PM
2

Correction: most men can induce comphet in women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:55 PM
1

You said I wouldn't be getting laid, which isn't true
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:46 PM
2

If it was, my body count would have three digits. Of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:42 PM
0

The claim is backed by decades of feminist scholarship. Anticlimax by Sheila Jeffreys lends a lot of support.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:41 PM
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we would be begged men horrible men to take us as sex slaves Either that or you dismantle comphet. Your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:39 PM
1

Most of the time it's through comphet
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:38 PM
-3

Would you lust after him if he was an Andrew Tate fan?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:38 PM
1

Straight men aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:37 PM
3

Comphet be strong
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:25 PM
-2

It sure is weird when that perform attraction towards me nonetheless. What reason would I have to believe other men are actually getting real attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:23 PM
4

Chadsexuality isn't real bruh. Incels made it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:22 PM
1

They'll be gone once you start taking Zyprexa
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:20 PM
3

Straight women actually do exist. There are, in fact, hundreds of them. Literally hundreds. Throughout the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 05:57 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 05:56 PM
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“The manosphere constructed an elaborate fiction of a world that doesn’t exist, and convinced people they must engage and do battle with the fictionalized women within it. “ You misspelled feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 03:26 PM
1

Run the numbers yourself. That's a Z score of 8.6 for it being the majority
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 02:48 PM
5

Okay man? Never heard of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:33 AM
0

I see attractive men all the time, but I only see like one attractive woman once a month. I think it's just that men are expected to care about our own appearance more. It wasn't women who invented looksmaxxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:26 AM
-1

Not my problem
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:13 AM
1

Maybe women simply are the default target of attraction and a minority of people, for any unbeknownst reason, happen to be attracted to men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:50 PM
3

Would you happen to have a death certificate citing misogyny as the cause of death?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:29 PM
3

Is misogyny in the room right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:27 PM
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The share of women interested in men is a lot lower than the share of men interested in women. Gay men already are a minority and, excluding comphet, it is significantly easier for me to draw male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:54 PM
5

I'm literally being pro women anti men. No worries.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:47 PM
1

No. How about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:23 PM
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Because as we know, single men are never decent. Men who are not female centered are equal to scum.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:49 PM
1

Based
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:48 PM
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You seem to be imposing your own standards of what a decent man is. If it's not you dating them, it hardly is your call.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:36 PM
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I'm happily married to Chad Then maybe this wasn't about you. Though it's not like chads never enter comphet-driven marriages either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:54 PM
2

I always stood by believing women, especially when they say they wear makeup for themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:53 PM
4

If I'm going to be completely alone otherwise, B. I can have enough fun by myself when it comes to sex. Not to mention whatever high tech sex toys the aliens have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:11 PM
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Women suffering from compulsory heterosexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:14 PM
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Many men refuse to perform oral on women or if they do they will only do it for a couple of minutes but demand a woman do a BJ for 30 minutes. [citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:41 PM
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Men are struggling to get out of the starting area, but if they can manage to, they will not deal with as much hordes of bullshit chasing them around Comphet-afflicted women have entered the chat
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:13 PM
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give us orgasms Women would gey those if they actually were into men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:11 PM
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So your argument literally is that you get messaged by men you're not attracted to. Might want to check r/latebloomerlesbians
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:07 PM
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Hookups are usually bad Huh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:55 PM
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We might as well be talking about Bigfoot here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:49 PM
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trying to figure out which attention is actually genuine Yeah, that's one men generally don't have to worry about. We already know it's most likely comphet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:15 PM
1

Sounds depressing but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:00 PM
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Locking down a guy who can fuck multiple women is the ultimate femdom fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:52 PM
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Chadsexuality is an incel myth
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:44 PM
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But hookups are much less valuable for women This is because they're not into men in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:40 PM
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If only wom*n could be relied upon to see me as an interchangeable dildo
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:38 PM
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It's not genuine most of the time. Even for chads, comphet will always be most common.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:36 PM
1

We have to create our own content. I sure as fuck would've never opened my ao3 account if we had content for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:32 AM
1

I would've noticed by now if it did
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:25 AM
2

Then where is the porn that caters to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:21 AM
5

Sounds like ace erasure but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 10:06 PM
3

Wonder why that is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:53 PM
1

Tried?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:46 PM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:22 PM
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Because I don't think normative relationship structures are fair to men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:20 PM
1

Can hardly argue against the results: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19591032/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:59 PM
0

Your entire reason for being with him is that you care about him as a person. I know I'd feel miserable in that position.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:56 PM
1

I'm so sorry for your husband
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:50 PM
2

Men have never been known for having high standards. If we organised, we could start demanding studios make high quality porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:50 PM
1

Charles Moser also found evidence of autogynephilia in 93% of cis women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:46 PM
3

my sexuality depends on being the object of desire Huh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:36 PM
1

I doubt that appeals to men either
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:35 PM
1

You were saying non visual mediums tend to cater to women, which I'm not sure of
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:25 PM
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Men will put up with low quality porn and studios know that, so they're complacent. So they don't really produce stuff catered to men in any meaningful way. Men have never been known for high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:21 PM
1

But that's a visual medium
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:20 PM
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Women need narrative buy-in. Historically, that narrative has been heterosexuality. Women love sexual roleplay, and the main way societies have managed to get them to pair up with men is having them RP heterosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:19 PM
2

Beggars can't be choosers. If men organised we could've started demanding quality porn by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:16 PM
-1

Literally autogynephilia
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:14 PM
-2

Women are not into men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:14 PM
2

About that… ever heard of Adrienne Rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:13 PM
1

One look at pornhub frontpage will tell you everything. Tried that. I hardly saw anything that seemed catered to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:09 PM
2

porn generally isn't made for women to enjoy I doubt it's made for men to enjoy either. Surely I'd havd noticed by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:08 PM
2

Most non visual mediums are geared towards women I really doubt so. There's not a lot of women in my ao3 authors discord server. Maybe it's just that they're on the consumer side.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:01 PM
0

They "care about the whole person" because they don't actually desire men. It's comphet all the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:00 PM
1

She's thinking about herself in the form of Stacy. Women are, generally speaking, autogynephilic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:59 PM
1

Uh-huh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:47 PM
1

Women performing attraction towards me without any underlying desire sure is evidence that something weird is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:47 PM
1

First I told you there's no evidence out there; you told me I should actually see how women behave. I told you I already have experience on the subject, and your answer is that it's not indicative of anything. Meaning your conment above is actually irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:46 PM
0

Women care about the whole person AKA they're looking for excuses to be with a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:43 PM
1

Except I've come to notice the lack of it exactly by interacting with women. Not least of all women who performed attraction towards me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:33 PM
-1

I thought red pill men thought we all were riding the cock carousel? If only. It's mostly blackpillers who believe in chadsexuality bs. And that is too optimistic of a reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:32 PM
1

There'd be evidence of it if it were true
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:31 PM
0

The fact alone that you need to use the slutty prefix is an admission that you're a minority. Otherwise it'd be just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:29 PM
2

And where is that supposed evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:27 PM
1

But there's no evidence of there being anything to repress at all in most cases. Men whose attraction for men has been repressed still show very clear signs of that attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:21 PM
4

Men are also raised to repress their sexual urges towards men. Grindr is still a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:06 PM
1

You don’t believe women. I do. And they say they prefer bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:05 PM
2

They've been raised to repress their urges towards women, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:50 PM
1

At least it means women are into men at lower frequencies than men are
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:50 PM
1

This is a self esteem/cope issue for you If it was, I'd also think attention from men is performative. I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:49 PM
2

women are raised to repress their sexuality It's actually the other way around. Women are socialised to perform heterosexuality regardless of their actual orientation. If it was like you say, as society has become more accepting of overt sexuality, the share of men who can't enter relationships would have dropped, but it's the other way around. Once you give women freedom, that will inevitably be freedom to break out of comphet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:33 PM
0

Because we actually are into the people we claim to be into
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:26 PM
1

Men just want to get laid Wonder why that might be
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:12 PM
0

In that case, Grindr wouldn't be the only functional major dating app
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:56 PM
-1

I strongly doubt most women you know are actually straight. I sure would've noticed if most were.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:51 PM
-1

My sister in Christ, you just admitted to being an outlier
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:46 PM
1

Most are not. I receive way more male than female attention. And the female attention I get is often comphet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:34 PM
-5

Because they're not into men, by and large
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:24 PM
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Maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:47 PM
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Cool, so it's just comphet
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:32 PM
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Ugly women generally don't have a shortage of simps. If you're a woman and you struggle to attract men, it's probably your personality. Maybe you should try getting a shower.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:17 PM
1

So it's either pairing up and getting derided for it, or staying single and getting called a failure. You can never win as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 09:15 PM
1

Apparently, the only way to not be female centric as a man is… to acknowledge your duty to pair up with a woman. Men can never win.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:28 PM
-1

So of course they're all asking for it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:23 PM
0

Doesn't seem like it from the way this thread is going
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:42 PM
1

That has nothing to do with my comment but ij
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:37 PM
1

Can MGTOW go their own way already? I'm tired of hearing their misogynistic bullshit about women everywhere. Hmm
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:37 PM
2

Exactly! Great example.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:16 PM
1

And apparently, not having your life revolve around women is misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:11 PM
1

https://np.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/search/?q=mgtow&cId=e5712dd7-561b-434f-9945-94d1c285b208&iId=10063bda-c840-4c28-bd8b-2a4e7373aa94
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:11 PM
1

Then look it up
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:55 PM
1

"Well, what were you saying when you got called a misogynist?" "Maybe he did deserve getting accused of misogyny." "He probably asked for it."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:50 PM
5

Then try looking up MGTOW inside 2XC
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:47 PM
0

I sure love when people blame the victim
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:42 PM
2

And getting called a misogynist for it. You really can never win as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:39 PM
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Men want to be valued as people Speak for yourself, weirdo
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:37 PM
2

Have you even read the comment section here? Also look up MGTOW in 2XC and see for yourself how women think about men who aren't female centric.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:36 PM
1

"Well, what were you saying when you got called a misogynist?" "Maybe he did deserve getting accused of misogyny." "He probably asked for it."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:35 PM
1

Must have forgotten how often MGTOW get called misogynists
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:31 PM
3

That 20 years wasted where a deep or meaningful connection could have been made We don't owe women a relationship. Unfortunately, women seem to think they have the right to control male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:30 PM
1

You are in a place where some women will be attracted to you rn unless you are extremely ugly. Even there, one needs to be able to tell when they're doing it out of comphet, which is most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:27 PM
-8

The point was how men are expected to have our lives revolve around women. Everything else is minutiae.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:26 PM
-1

Must have forgotten how often MGTOW get called misogynists
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:25 PM
1

I sure love when people blame the victim
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:25 PM
-8

[citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:25 PM
-8

Both get stigmatised for not being female centric
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:24 PM
-1

Must have forgotten how often MGTOW get called misogynists
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:47 PM
-2

Must have forgotten how often MGTOW get called misogynists
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:46 PM
-4

Yes. MGTOW get called misogynists all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:44 PM
1

Already did lsst night
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:56 PM
4

If only w*men were capable of that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:38 AM
-2

Source for men prefering younger women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:52 AM
1

The only thing cishets have on their side is numbers Cishet men have the numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:37 PM
0

N=30 is enough to be treated as infinite values in statistics, so 29 is near infinity. Now, let's actually test the hypothesis that the majority of women is autogynephilic. That's a 43% difference, with a standard deviation of sqrt(93%*7%/29)=.05, giving us a whopping Z score of 8.6.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:49 PM
-1

She just admitted all that matters is if how she feels about the man in question
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:17 PM
1

*you My bad
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:13 PM
0

It literally is in the abstract: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19591032/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:10 PM
1

[citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:07 PM
2

So you're happy about the women who have sex with yoi not being into you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:51 PM
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how I felt about them is what mattered Most blackpilling comment of all time
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:38 PM
4

I'd rather be alone. I've never been the one to care about love anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:14 PM
-1

Most men want the woman they are fucking to give shit about them Bullshit. The reason I'm most likely to reject a woman for is if it feels like she cares about me as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:57 PM
-2

That's just the autogynephilia talking
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:51 PM
1

I never got why people like paizuri tbh. It's surprisingly popular on ao3.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:46 PM
0

And I also love getting robbed, but robbers rarely make sure I enjoy it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:50 PM
0

k
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:29 PM
-1

So you’re saying women should only have sex with Chad? Pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:45 PM
-3

They're bad because they have sex with men they're not attracted to and later complain about not reaching orgasm..At some point, you are responsible for your own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:37 PM
1

Maybe try having sex with people you're attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:34 PM
1

By that metric, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:43 AM
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So do MLMs
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:27 AM
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Because as we know, Disney Princesses are no longer a massive media franchise
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:35 PM
2

I sure love when biological essentialism
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:31 PM
-1

Or maybe I've just paid attention to what they actually do instead of taking them at face value
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:09 PM
0

I did, literally and figuratively. I just told you I've witnessed women performing comphet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:04 PM
1

I'm sure there are hundreds of them who actually do. Literally hundreds.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:01 PM
2

I'd be able to get fooled by them if it didn't happen only after they've known me for a while and come to personally care about me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:59 PM
0

They could at least try to make it believable
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:34 PM
1

The principle is the same. You don't need to take everyone at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:29 PM
-1

Ok, does that have anything to do with wom*n describing sex as degrading?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:28 PM
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If an internet rando tels you they're a Nigerian prince, do you choose to believe them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:26 PM
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They'd be if they were straight
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:16 PM
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I really doubt the majority of women are into men. There's a reason why Tinder and Bumble are failures but Grindr isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:00 PM
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When they're not attracted to me, yet still make the performance of attraction towards me, something weird is definitely happening
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:57 PM
1

Aces are also valid
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:43 PM
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Sounds like ace erasure but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:42 PM
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Would be harder if women at least made an effort to make their straight LARPing believable
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:32 PM
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You're describing matters of intensity, but not frequency. Most men genuinely are attracted to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:29 PM
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I'm sure it's the other way around. Women are conditioned into identifying as straight when they clearly don't feel attraction towards men most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:23 PM
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Probably. So is Christ, for He is the Alpha and the Omega.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:19 PM
1

I'm just stating what is obvious. Why else would women shield themselves on a totally unsourced claim to explain why they actually don't care about sex that much?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:46 PM
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They don’t say that, but they do act as if it was less important. There literally is no source for that. Wasn’t that a debate post? Women who agree are not even allowed to comment. They're allowed to reply to the automod and top level comments Please provide sources that women have no desire for sex with men. Anticlimax: A Feminist Perspective on the Sexual Revolution, by Sheila Jeffreys
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:27 PM
1

Just read from Crafting Essentialist Rationales for the Gender Gap in Orgasms onward. It's women who're talking about them not feeling like they care that much. You do not find men saying the female orgasm is less important. That a journal of such note couldn't manage to find one man who subscribed to that narrative, on a paper that quite specifically was looking for exactly that, is wild. Same with the reddit link. It's women in the comments talking about why they expect PIV, not men. This brin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:11 PM
1

I've just read too many AO3 stories where there's no PIV at all. Some I've even written myself. It's also interesting how the last time the subject came up in this community, it was women who said they definitely did expect PIV. I also recall one of the most thorough papers on the subject of the orgasm gap blaming it on the issue you discussed, but it only managed to find women claiming they saw their own orgasm as less important, but not men saying their own was more important. Which makes sens…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:43 PM
1

I've just read too many AO3 stories where there's no PIV at all. Some I've even written myself. It's also interesting how the last time the subject came up in this community, it was women who said they definitely did expect PIV. I also recall one of the most thorough papers on the subject of the orgasm gap blaming it on the issue you discussed, but it only managed to find women claiming they saw their own orgasm as less important, but not men saying their own was more important. Which makes sens…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:32 PM
1

Well, my experiences confirm you totally can get a job you applied to on LinkedIn. Surely this is enough to draw conclusions from about how useful it is for unemployed people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:57 PM
1

Do you have sources for the last claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:28 PM
2

What makes all or most women being secretly or subconsciously gay feel right to you? Personal experience. Basically all of the attention I get from women is comphet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:59 PM
2

I really don't see evidence of PIV being treated as most important, even if, as you noted, happens quite often in media. Movies also have people shooting a gas tank until it explodes, but that doesn't mean people do that irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:29 PM
1

You seem to be bent on not having me believe you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:46 PM
1

I strongly suggest you read the lesbian masterdoc
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:31 PM
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Mostly about it limiting how people act. I'm also curious into the claim of media being a transmission mechanism. I definitely don't recall the Bee Movie promoting the centrality of PIV.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:18 PM
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It's a concept developed within second-wave feminism that suggests that women are socialised into seeking relationships with men, regardless of their actuak attraction. Anticlimax by Sheila Jeffreys is a good exploration of its ramifications.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:15 PM
2

I'd have less reasons to believe women are not straight if I got no female attention at all instead of specifically getting comphet-mediated attention
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:51 PM
3

Do you have any source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:35 PM
2

You keep treating attraction as degrading
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:43 PM
2

I am attracted to men You sure don't sound like it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:37 PM
1

It's ok to not be attracted to men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:33 PM
2

It’s degrading And yet you claim to be attracted to men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:23 PM
2

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:22 PM
1

The thing is it hardly works if you only act like that during sex. Which goes back to the question that triggered your post. If you don't act like you can see men as objects for your pleasure, the way men largely are able to do when it comes to women, then it'll be all too obvious that you're being performative.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:17 PM
1

The counterpart of that is that you should also have a responsibility to at least pretend like you desire the man you're having question. And women are often bad at hiding the fact that the entire reason they go after men is comphet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:57 PM
2

That could simply be solved by having other forms of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:55 PM
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They're still married, which is relatively uncommon among their friends
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:52 PM
2

Then you'd simply have forms of sex that are more likely to lead to orgasm
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:50 PM
2

[citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:47 PM
1

Maybe it wouldn't exist if women didn't have sex with men they're not attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:42 PM
3

What you described are roles. Either might be part of self-directed attraction insofar as they are part of a script in which one is participating. So for instance, a woman's typical fantasy, under your description, would be being a submissive woman (LARPing as heterosexual by having sex with a man, might I add). This is wholly unrelated to externally target desire, which is mostly absent in women, at least towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:38 PM
1

Then women in general simply shouldn't be having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:28 PM
1

Then don't have kids. Maybe don't even have sex in the first plsce if all you'll do is complain about it. Men are way better off having partners who are into us.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:23 PM
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What I want is mutual attraction. I definitely would enjoy to have an attractive woman turn into a puddle of sweat under my touch. But from what I can tell from the amount of female attention I've received, women generally do not desire men in such a way. It's comphet all the way, with some autogynephilia mixed in (women think about how a man touches us, how he makes us feel wanted and desired). So women simply expect a man to serve as a prop for their own self-directed desire, without doing the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:17 PM
3

Men who were already doing well for themselves are more likely to get married, scientists find
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:12 PM
1

Probably, if they're fine with it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:48 AM
3

Trans exclusive radical plebs, probably
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:52 AM
0

Ara ara
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:48 AM
1

Twillight was incredibly male positive
/r/MensRights13/05/26 01:39 AM
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This is why I prefer antivaxxers. It's only 5 years of child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:26 PM
1

women usually sleep with men within a few dates How often does that happen? I thought those were just incel beliefs about what wom*n do with Chad!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:03 PM
1

Because women almost only ever perform attraction once they personally care about the man in question, since they need an excuse for the performance
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:57 PM
1

I have observed what they do. I already said I'be been the target of comphet, and can tell none of it is attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:47 PM
1

I simply believe in paying attention to observed phenomena instead of going along with what people make up about themselves. Otherwise you might tell me you're a Nigerian prince tomorrow and I'd have to believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:38 PM
1

Because as we know, men have never in human history faced negative repercussions for having sex with men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:30 PM
1

Even if that were the case, you'd still need to account for why the thresholds are so different. Men will occasionally come in my DMs asking for my dick pics, but not women, despite the latter ostensibly being majority male-attracted. So at least it's much easier for men to be the target of comphet than actual attraction from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:22 PM
1

So you're basically agreeing with the black pill chadsexuality argument
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:14 PM
1

Incels are a thing for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:11 PM
1

Yeah, I must have missed the part where there's a phenomenom of women who want to have sex with men but are not anle to
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:32 PM
1

Except men, by and large, do show signs of being into women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:16 PM
-4

Natalie Wynn is the closest I can think of
/r/MensRights12/05/26 08:48 PM
1

Or maybe, feminists were right and comphet is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:38 PM
1

What I'm asking is why would they need to care about me personally
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:13 PM
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Ok, why does it only happen after they have a feasible excuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:54 PM
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They look up to single men with no prospects We do not need women to not be losers. We are Kenough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:40 PM
1

I sure love some good old gender essentialism
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 05:10 PM
1

Sure, expecting women who show interest in me to actually be attracted makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 05:10 PM
1

Because it only ever happens after they've come to care about who I am as a person. Meaning they need that as an excuse for why they are performing that attraction in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 05:01 PM
1

Nah, I have occasionally gotten the kind of comphet attention I'm talking about, and it's so obviously performative
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:50 PM
1

I doubt they're attracted to men at all. Gay men already are a minority, yet I occasionally get requests for my dick pics on my inbox from them. So it follows that straight/bi women are an even smaller minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:35 PM
1

Because of comphet
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:22 PM
0

At leasts chads would get something out of it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:19 PM
1

You're not, and so you don't choose men based on that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:18 PM
1

That you see him as a sex toy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:48 PM
1

So that's your entire reason to be with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:38 PM
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Yet women keep pretending to be into men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:36 PM
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I sure love some good old biological essentialism
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:29 PM
1

Then why does she need to care about who he is in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:15 PM
1

Don't forget Anticlimax
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:14 PM
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women are all dating the same men Even when that happens, it's still comphet. Chads too are being ripped off.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:45 PM
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It plays into the comphet fantasies they've been socially conditioned to fulfill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:43 PM
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That she's not actually into him, and only looking for excuses to perform attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:19 PM
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Compulsory Heterosexuality and Lesbian Existence, plus Anticlimax: A Feminist Perspective on the Sexual Revolution
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:19 PM
1

I hope comphet makes you happy, then
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:48 PM
1

k
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:47 PM
1

Sounds like a miserable existence for him if that's all you care about
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:34 PM
1

If your "attraction" is fragile enough to be affected by that, it might as well have never been real
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:21 PM
1

Would you act the same way if the man in question was an Andrew Tate fan?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:16 PM
1

Love is just the justification people give for performing attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:12 PM
1

You sure disguise it very well
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:12 PM
0

Go choose the bear then. Men deserve better than comphet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:09 PM
0

Correct. I expect nothing less in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:06 PM
1

The truth that you just admitted to being that you literally just chose a man because you like who he is as a person? And he's supposed to be happy about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:06 PM
0

That's what one needs to remind themselves on to justify wny they are performing attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:52 PM
1

Definitely comphet
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:50 PM
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Ok, would you be saying the same if he was an Andrew Tate fan?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:44 PM
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Why would it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:43 PM
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I simply have read too much feminist literature to believe otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:37 PM
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Sounds like comphet but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:36 PM
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Makes sense once you notice women aren't actualliy into men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:24 PM
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There are always signs. The main one is if it only ever happens after she's gotten to know you enough to like who you are as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:13 PM
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Showing interest in someone, regardless of actual attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:11 PM
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Or maybe he simply found one too many woman who performed attraction for him but it was so obviously fake
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:09 PM
0

k
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:50 PM
0

I don't owe shit to women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:09 PM
1

What I'm saying is that being a decent person is terrible dating advice
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:30 PM
0

Given everything you've admitted to, that's clearly false
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:22 PM
1

Because women keep choosing men they don't like in the first place. It wasn't me who invented comphet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:21 PM
0

Would you be satisfied to know your partner isn't actually into you and can't see you as a sex toy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:18 PM
0

No; I simply don't want women to pretend they're into me when they're clearly not
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:13 PM
1

When that happens, not being nice is the only way to ensure a woman actually is into me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:03 PM
2

Ok, so when you say sex simply happens because a man was nice, that means he is entitled to it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:56 PM
1

That you got scammed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:46 PM
4

That has nothing to do with my point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:29 PM
5

Seeing it as a prize after I fullfill the necessary conditions is what would actually be entitled
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:19 PM
2

Then we don't need to do PIV. I definitely plan on getting a vasectomy before trying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:15 PM
4

So you're saying I should be satisfied if she treats her body like a reward for me being a decent person
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:06 PM
1

No 10 with small boobs and high body count. Terrible service.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:58 PM
3

It teaches men to believe women simply give sex to men who are allies™
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:56 PM
2

see women as stupid teenage level creatures I wish women weren't doing their own share of the work to make men believe that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:54 PM
0

Your point being that access to sex is a man's reward for being nice to women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:31 PM
7

They typically want a man who is pleasant, considerate, and respectful as a default, not part of a transaction If she only chose me because I was a nice guy, she was never actually into me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:06 PM
1

Comphet
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:31 AM
1

It's also been found in 93% of cis women: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00918369.2010.486241
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:40 PM
0

That's just called autogynephilia. It's socially learnt instead of inborn.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:45 PM
0

boo!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:48 PM
13

If she's actually into me, that's enough. Not everything has to be about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:08 PM
1

The question wasn't what would happen if women were cis men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:44 PM
1

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s12884-017-1491-5 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0266613823000232 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8040683/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7518170/ https://www.npr.org/2022/10/18/1129736018/getting-an-abortion-as-a-trans-person-is-hard-with-or-without-state-restrictions https://www.guttmacher.org/article/2020/11/not-debate-lgbtq-people-need-and-deserve-tailored-sexual-and-reproductive-health https://transequality.org…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:37 PM
1

Because some do, and they in fact may be even more harshly affected than women are
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:41 PM
1

Dunno. I think of being wife material as the same as being husband material, so maybe it's not worth it that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:05 PM
1

That wasn't what we were discussing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:17 PM
1

Many do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:32 AM
1

Why would I be pretending?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:36 AM
1

Then risking pregnancy is a problem men face, and in fact may pose more of a problem to the men who do than to the overwhelming majority of women. So switching things up may, in fact, make pregancy even worse for you if you're a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:28 PM
0

Physically disabled men will also have plenty of dating experiences which able bodied men will likely not face. They're still men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:25 PM
1

Trans men are men. The question never said it was about cis men in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:21 PM
-2

That wasn't the question but sure
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:58 PM
-5

Then don't have forms of sex that lead to pregnancy. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:54 PM
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That shit already happens to trans men. You're not switching anything up. You jusy want to pretend you're number one on the oppression olympics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:52 PM
2

Many already do
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:50 PM
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Sounds like the dream
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:04 AM
0

If your [sic] straight They aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:59 PM
1

Comphet is a bitch, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:53 PM
5

Of course, things never are women's fault
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:51 PM
1

Women being actually straight is a very rare phenomenom. If it wasn't, there would've never been demand for PUA methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:50 PM
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All I'm saying is I know how supposed female heterosexuality works. I've had women perform attraction for me and it's obviously all fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:41 PM
5

So, men are only allowed to do shit if you personally find a point in it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:37 PM
0

It wouldn't be comphet if it lacked the performativity. I'm confident they would do none of that shit if the men in question turned out to be Andrew Tate fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:36 PM
0

Case in point: the overwhelming majority of straight-identified women having sex with men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:29 PM
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Comphet has entered the chat
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:10 PM
1

being used for sex by "straight" women Imagine my shock
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:08 PM
6

Next time you'll tell me to make money without ever getting to spend it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:33 PM
5

Good to know all women care about is tone policing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:09 PM
1

She has a boyfriend and is quite obviously not into him. It was actually pretty easy to figure out when she had sex for the first time because she'd often talk about female orgasms and how they actually weren't that important for the few weeks afterwards. She's still with him. So it very obviously is all comphet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:21 PM
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I've women actually wanted men to do our share of emotional labour, they'd be pleased to find out about all of the PUA strategies
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:03 PM
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My guess is 95% of the female population
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:35 AM
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They're not. They're generally not attracted to men in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:58 PM
1

I've just seen all too many times how, when women have a terrible idea, people are much less likely to cut them off than when men say terrible ideas. It's simply seen as more aggresive to give the same treatment to women (even I've noticed I need to remind myself to treat women with kid gloves more often when they're saying bs). What happens then, at boardroom meetings, when everyone has to go along with a terrible idea, just because it was said by a woman? I have experience in things like that:…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:42 AM
0

I agree that the kill all men rhetoric is quite marginal but entitlement culture is not. And from entitlement culture, you get divine feminine talk and so on. Feminists really seem to have stuck their heads on the ground regarding where all of these issues come from. It was because of a culture that was all too happy talking about what women deserve without the expectation of them ever having to prove themselves, because expecting women to be competent is, of course, patriarchy. I legit believe …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:54 AM
0

I totally would support feminists if they actually tried to get women to improve themselves and break away from comphet. I wish there was something like the red pill for women, but instead all they get is messages of how they already are perfect the way they are and deserve everything without needing to work for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:12 AM
1

You should've asked that 10 years ago. Anyway, maybe you should try taking a shower.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:51 AM
1

If the alternative is a miserable relationship with a woman who only cares who I am as a person, it's not even worth it, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:12 AM
3

Who is this majority exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:27 AM
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You are not the CEO of healthy relationships. If that advice gets me to filter out women who would only be with me because they like who I am as a person, then it achieved its purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:30 PM
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What I'm saying is I am content with that set of expectations. But, as you discussed, this feeling of loneliness actually feels quite burdening to a lot of people who idenify as men. I don't think people should have to subscribe to any identity that only feels like a burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 10:56 PM
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I really don't think being loved would solve shit. I believe your gender should spark joy. To me, it does spark joy knowing I'm not expected to burden others with anything I'm going through. The notion that my failures are mine only to worry about; the last thing I'd want is to have to think of how what I'm going through is affecting others. And I think it's fine to not want this for yourself. But if the kind of expectations that exist for your gender don't spark joy, maybe it wasn't made for yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 10:46 PM
1

I definitely wouldn't care. I know for a fact those women are rarely ever attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:17 PM
1

Literally me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:44 PM
50

I really can't relate to the people doing that shit. I even struggle to relate to chatbot users.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:24 PM
0

I think so. I wouldn't feel satisfied if she couldn't see me as an object either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:40 PM
0

I consider them synonyms
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:13 PM
0

That's just called comphet
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:48 PM
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It's all autogynephilia
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:33 PM
1

The comment section here begs to disagree. Can't say I saw it coming, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 04:02 PM
1

for the individual, but bad for society if the guy goes too deep wdym?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 11:45 PM
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The existence of straight men is the surest proof that sexuality isn't a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:41 PM
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Funny how any acknowledgement of the problems with socially sanctioned arrangements make others go "then why don't you become gay?"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:32 PM
1

Where does it say so?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:26 PM
3

It's surprisingly easy to get one. I don't doubt OP on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:16 PM
0

Why would that need ever be understandable? If anything, I think it's more likely to lead to mistreatment of women than the need for casual sex. Most sexual abuse happens within committed relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:15 PM
0

Why would it be any less healthy than obsessing over a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:42 PM
0

Dude, why? Because it's true, and I'm in no obligation to reciprocate any comphet
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:27 PM
4

Which is wrong, because aces also exist
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:25 PM
0

You just arrived too early. Plenty of late bloomer lesbians out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:24 PM
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It's an excuse people make for why they're forming partnerships which align with socially approved scripts
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:18 AM
3

Abortion bans hurt men too; trans men most of all
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:58 PM
1

And I'm a vegan, just not dietetically abstaining from animal products
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 10:30 PM
1

Good. I'm all for women who aren't straight deciding to not pretend
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 09:32 PM
1

Then they shouldn't complain about the sex when they clearly aren't going for that. It's like me buying a phone, getting a gift card as part of my purchase, and then complaining about the gift card.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:55 PM
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Since pheromones are the proposed link, my guess is HRT status
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:22 PM
3

Feminism is a thing, too
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:02 PM
1

k
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:33 PM
3

Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:31 PM
1

That's hers to figure out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:28 PM
1

No
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:25 PM
1

That they shouldn't have sex with men if they're not into them and won't orgasm
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:42 PM
1

And they should start behaving accordingly
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 04:48 PM
7

I'd rather be chosen for my dick or die an incel
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:25 PM
2

They would orgasm just fine if they actually had it with people they're into
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:44 PM
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If by using, you mean engaging in an activity the women in question ostensibly enjoy, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:30 PM
8

I might be young, but I sure am looking forward to dying alone
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 12:33 PM
14

I simply realised I respect myself too much to be content knowing a woman only chose me because she likes who I am as a person
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 12:32 PM
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I've only read the first one and it is extremely telling how, on the side of men, they only manage to cite them describing their own orgasms as necessary, but none about women's orgasms being unimportant (closest was Anthony, who gave an opinion on why others would find it as such). All of the quotes on the female orgasm holding less importance come from the women themselves. That one of the top journals in women's studies would've failed to find men admitting to neglecting their partner's orgas…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:35 AM
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Guess that's valid
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:12 AM
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On the one hand: congratulations, you're a real one. However, no offense, but are you chopped or something? Again, I don't mean to insult you, but AFAIK most women can get regular access to sex regardless. I really am just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 12:24 AM
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It is an operational bottleneck, to say the least
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 12:15 AM
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Well, if I cared about him, that would hurt. Maybe don't go for men you care about
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 12:06 AM
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Men don't get to be used
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 12:05 AM
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Sure thing, Jan
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:58 PM
-2

Source: trust me, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:58 PM
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And using a woman, in this context, means engaging in activities she ostensibly enjoys
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:16 PM
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I'm sure they'd orgasm just fine if they actually were straight
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:10 PM
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Well, the right guy is just the one who manages to induce comphet
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:09 PM
1

Because they're not into men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:01 PM
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Employers will also tell you it's better to be minimum wage material
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:35 PM
2

I really loved Fleabag; she nails down the literally me energy. PMMM is also one of my favourite anime ever; I'm hyped fpr Walpurgisnacht: Rising later this year. And of course, there's the Barbie movie, which is my favourite depiction of the Yamnaya invasions ogf the Balkans ever. As for novels written by women, the last one was The Fountainhead, over 10 years ago (I don't read novels that often). Though I do guess some ao3 authors I read might be women. Does music also count? I was a huge Aman…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:58 PM
3

fr I wish reverse conversion therapy was a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 07:45 PM
8

Most men totally can be desired. By men, that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:16 PM
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every year more and more women opt to stay single and away from men Good. It's better if they drop the comphet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:53 AM
1

Guess heteronormativity was never a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:06 PM
1

Women are socialised to perform heterosexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:15 PM
1

It's not at all a good deal to only get sex due to women's comphet
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:02 PM
1

So you just agree women don't want sex from men unless it plays into their autogynephilic fantasies or there's money involved
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:40 PM
1

Shocking how they wouldn't get sex otherwise. Women were not into them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:09 PM
1

In The Matrix, the red pill is how Neo comes to see the normative life he'd been sold as a lie. Thus, it is red pilled to reject the gynocentric structures which expect men to be satisfied in stifling marriages with women who are not attracted to them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:08 PM
1

I'm sure as fuck against violating consent, but women should also stop pretending to be into men while complaining about being manipulated into activities they ostensibly enjoy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:44 PM
1

And viruses kill people. Therefore, you're going against biology by taking any antibiotics.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:25 PM
1

Cool, nice biological essentialism there
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:10 PM
0

I simply believe in holding people to the same standards
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 03:56 PM
1

And being taken advantage of, in this context, means having sex with men. Truly one of the takes of all time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 03:41 PM
-4

Just admit you're not into men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:12 PM
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You see, they don't actually like sex with men, or else they wouldn't see it as degrading
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:49 PM
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I'm sure I would've noticed by now if it was for me. Maybe it is for enbies then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:00 AM
-1

I think it's ultimately better this way. Hypergamy is a force for good. We might've still been in the Stone Age had men never had a reason to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:30 PM
1

A partner I can have reliably good sex with. Even if I had easy access to hookups, it'd be hard to get a woman compatible enough to make sex more enjoyable than masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:57 PM
1

Or, get this: men who already are successful have more chances of getting married
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:54 PM
1

I already have one. I'm a war criminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:00 PM
1

That sure is a way to incite hateful rhetoric that only serves to pit men against each other
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:59 PM
3

IDK, trollsfrom WoW can be pretty hot
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:04 PM
0

People get turned on all the time without any target of who they are attracted to. Just head over to r/askgaybros to look up femdom and you'll find a handful of them can be into it without needing to be into women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:54 AM
1

They only want the sex because they've been socialised to understand it as part of what constitutes a healthy relationship. Just look up stories about pregnat women over on the dead bedrooms sub and it rarely ever appears like the women actually are sad about the lack of sex itself, but the fact that their pregnancy is disrupting the desire they'd been the target of from their partners. It is so glaring that you really can't unsee just how much of what women actually care about in sex simply is …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:55 AM
1

Um, yeah? Women also That's just autogynephilia
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:26 AM
2

This is how 99% of married women feel about their husbands
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:22 AM
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