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did you lose your virginity to an escort or know of guys who did that?
/r/seduction18/07/21 04:17 AM
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i know i sometimes envy and am jealous of people who lost their virginity in high school or while still in their teens, thats obviously not true for everyone
/r/seduction18/07/21 04:17 AM
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it wouldn't surprise me if far more men than women died as virgins throughout history, or if not, if guys do lose their virginity later than normal, it seems far more common for guys, men, to end up as 30 year old virgins than for women, or older
/r/MensRights18/07/21 02:28 AM
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well thats awesome, but did you also ask him out first?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 05:25 AM
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how did you and her first meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 01:58 AM
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you asked him out first? how did you and him first meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 01:57 AM
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how about, do you know of any other couples that started off that way besides yourself?
/r/seduction27/12/20 10:27 AM
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i wonder if a relationship can turn out great or successful if a woman approaches the guy or asks the guy out first, is the initiator, have you heard of any couples like that?
/r/seduction22/12/20 12:51 PM
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did your wife also ask you out first?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 10:29 AM
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i have high functioning autism, so as most people know, autism affects a persons ability to socialize with others, ability to read social cues, etc., Thats why ideally, i would prefer it if a woman made it obvious to me that she was interested in me or attracted to me.
/r/seduction22/12/20 04:59 AM
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oh i see, well, thats awesome and epic that you would approach a guy like that
/r/seduction21/12/20 10:52 AM
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besides rejection, a lot of guys don't want to get labeled creepy or stalkerish.
/r/seduction20/12/20 12:54 PM
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wow seriously, this is not a troll post right? just asking because it seems its the last thing you would expect to happen, a woman approaching a guy.
/r/seduction20/12/20 12:53 PM
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normally with their eyes or facial expressions, but they normally won't open their mouth first in front of a guy or be the one to begin an interaction
/r/seduction20/12/20 12:52 PM
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why does it seem like guys, men, were meant to reap or just experience more side-benefits than women do as a result of improving your dating life, what i mean is, when a guy, man, becomes better with women, becomes better at having interactions with them, talking to them or just overall better dating success, it has a positive snowball effect on other areas in his life, such as business, career, etc.
/r/seduction20/12/20 12:51 PM
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"men have to create their value, women have to protect their value" that was a powerful quote i stumbled upon some months ago
/r/seduction17/11/20 06:43 AM
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thats why it looks like, becoming a man is a process, but not the other way around, its difficult to explain, but you always hear that there was a rite of passage for guys but never for girls
/r/seduction16/11/20 01:19 AM
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i assume you feel the asking out part, is the guys role
/r/seduction16/11/20 01:18 AM
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the late Sean Connery was another good example i believe
/r/seduction11/11/20 05:12 AM
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well thats something that the vast majority of women will never do, let alone asking a guy out first
/r/seduction11/11/20 03:49 AM
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thats why i asked a question recently, i wonder how guys, men, figured this out, before the seduction community or PUA industry existed, before the internet existed.
/r/seduction11/11/20 03:17 AM
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so it looks like, sons need to be raised differently than daughters do
/r/seduction11/11/20 03:05 AM
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yes, i wonder how it was done before the internet existed
/r/seduction11/11/20 03:04 AM
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yes but women normally won't start or begin an interaction with a guy first
/r/seduction11/11/20 02:58 AM
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its too bad society doesn't teach social-skills in school
/r/seduction11/11/20 02:54 AM
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it reminds me how my perspective towards dating has changed over the years, but it bothers or annoys me a lot, when people say that women need skills as well, its difficult to explain.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre10/11/20 09:12 AM
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i could have sworn, that arranged-marriage, or something similiar to that, was a lot more common world-wide several decades or generations ago
/r/seduction05/11/20 10:49 PM
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ya thats a good way of looking at it, since most dating coaches are expensive
/r/seduction05/11/20 10:48 PM
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i like to feel that was more common several decades ago or more
/r/seduction02/11/20 05:16 AM
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sounds like, women in their 20s, thats when women have the most options for getting a date or getting a boyfriend, or just thats when women have it the easiest when dating, thats what society, the media, culture, make it out to be.
/r/seduction31/10/20 11:58 PM
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so you never worked with a dating coach or pick-up artist? never paid anyone for coaching on this area?
/r/seduction31/10/20 10:07 PM
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interesting, you have had women approach you?
/r/askTRP19/10/20 10:17 AM
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its a reminder that the history of courship or how relationships, couples were formed, i think it was different several decades ago or more
/r/seduction16/10/20 09:04 AM
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at the same time, its a reminder that too many guys are oblivious to a womans subtleness
/r/seduction13/10/20 09:55 AM
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the word practice gets very annoying with this
/r/seduction13/10/20 09:24 AM
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yes, women normally won't be point-blank with a guy they are interested in or attracted to unfortuneately, they won't open their mouth first or begin an interaction with him. Thats how its always been historically and why do i get the feeling it will be that way until our sun expires and incinerates the Earth.
/r/seduction13/10/20 07:16 AM
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why does it symbolize strength when a guy approaches a woman, in a womans perspective, if he doesn't approach her, does that mean he would be unable to protect her?
/r/seduction10/10/20 12:51 AM
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i feel i look at the word practice in a different perspective now, but at the same time, it does make me mad because it looks like, guys, men, are the only gender, sex, that are expected to get their social awkwardness handled or social anxiety, shyness overcome, handled.
/r/seduction10/10/20 12:49 AM
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oh please, women normally never approach guys or ask them out first, that normally doesn't happen, if it does happen, its very rare.
/r/seduction10/10/20 12:35 AM
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interesting, the last thing you would expect
/r/seduction10/10/20 12:31 AM
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so if a man can't approach a woman, does that mean he would be unable to protect her? what does it display strength in a womans eyes when he approaches, did i answer my own question?
/r/seduction10/10/20 12:11 AM
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tons of guys worldside are oblivious to a womans subtle signs, hence why cold approach is common. The word practice gets very annoying and enraging when it comes to social-skills or conversation-skills, interactions, etc. Its difficult and long to explain. "In the animal kingdom, when a male lion comes of age he begins to make his move to acquire a female lion to breed with. If he’s unsuccessful with one group of females, he goes to another area and meets some more. Unlike us human males, a lion…
/r/seduction10/10/20 12:09 AM
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seriously, you just barely noticed this? life isn't fair, never has and never will be, do i like it? nope, but have no choice but to deal with it, just like we don't always get closure over something.
/r/MensRights08/10/20 08:48 PM
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one thing i never liked, that gets very annoying, is people say that men get to choose women, they make it sound like the woman has no power or say at all in anything during the interaction, seduction, encounter, sure, a guy can choose which woman he approaches, but those approaches mean nothing unless the woman gives consent. You can choose which job you want to apply for, but companies do the hiring.
/r/seduction08/10/20 06:20 AM
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have you dated any men as a result of you asking them out first, approaching?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 08:54 AM
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are you implying you asked out your husband first, asked him out first?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 05:31 AM
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well thats awesome and very admirable of you, if only girls did that more often, i know for sure that tons of guys worldwide feel that way about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 08:07 AM
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thats a discussion i've seen for several years now or more, anytime there is a discussion about being in control of your destiny, its always associated with masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 06:20 AM
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how did you and him first meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 06:17 AM
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i don't really blame women for sticking to a status quo that lets most of them avoid initiating and rejection. Most of us would take that option if we had it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 06:16 AM
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"C'mon...women will never, ever, ever, ever and ever approach a guy! Period! It's not her role to do that despite the progression women have made in society at large; i.e., salary, jobs, positions, women in military, etc...Gentlemen, regardless if a woman is a CEO of company, a government official, 5 star General, department head in a company, women are still women. You can't change that. It's your inner strength, your character, your personality. It's demonstrating you have high value, are self…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 04:35 AM
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this is a comment, quote, i read from a former dating coach, former because, she is now committed to politics, this is what she said: "Do you think over a 100 years ago, guys even needed a dating coach in order to attract a woman? Oh Hell No, this need for assistance has only emerged very recently"
/r/seduction20/09/20 05:01 AM
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i know this is a common sticking point for many guys, is being able to distinguish, if a woman is just being nice and friendly to them, or if she is actually interested, attracted to them
/r/seduction16/09/20 02:59 AM
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so it sounds like, its best to go for the first kiss as soon as possible, you recommend the first date then.
/r/seduction13/09/20 11:59 PM
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i like to use the analogy of job hunting, you can choose which job you want to apply for, but at the end of the day, companies do the hiring.
/r/seduction12/09/20 03:13 AM
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yes, to sum it up, women normally play a passive role in human mating/dating.
/r/seduction11/09/20 11:54 PM
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I feel this changed my mindset and perspective on talking to women, I read it on a forum: A guy was asking for advice on how to get better at talking to women, and people used the word practice "It bothers and annoys, enrages me a lot when people use the word practice, because the way I see it, for women, there is no such thing as practicing talking to men, because women's lives are on autopilot when it comes to talking to men since puberty, due to all of the constant attention they've been gett…
/r/seduction11/09/20 11:49 PM
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i believe teasing is the main form of flirting right? it means that you are playfully making fun of her, but at the same time, not insulting her. I don't know if its like this always, but if a guy doesn't tease women in interactions, he will just get placed in the friend-zone? it seems and looks like, a mans social-skills, conversation-ability, has a much bigger impact on his attractiveness or dating success, than the other way around. Women it seems, are forced to or have no choice but to learn…
/r/seduction11/09/20 11:37 PM
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it gets irritating, when people call it a skillset
/r/MGTOW205/09/20 09:00 PM
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how has your dating life been so far? even before this global pandemic hit?
/r/seduction31/08/20 07:15 PM
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a reminder of what i've always hated
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 08:39 AM
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it reminds me, the way it looks like, if an interaction goes poorly between a man and a woman, its always the mans fault
/r/seduction20/08/20 12:37 PM
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oh i see, so my guess is, there is more than a decade age gap difference between you 2.
/r/seduction28/07/20 05:05 AM
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my guess is, you and her are in your 20s
/r/seduction28/07/20 04:53 AM
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why am i not surprised, how long have you and her been together?
/r/seduction28/07/20 04:42 AM
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did she ask you out first or begin an interaction with you first?
/r/seduction28/07/20 04:30 AM
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i know if an attractive women approached me or asked me out first, was the initiator in starting a relationship, i would have tons of admiration and respect for her.
/r/seduction28/07/20 04:29 AM
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interesting, the last thing you would expect women to do, but at the same time, unfortuneate it doesn't happen more often
/r/seduction26/07/20 03:14 AM
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i sometimes like to feel dating was easier before texting existed
/r/seduction18/07/20 12:38 AM
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social dynamics, human interaction ability, soft skills, conversation ability, it has never been mainstream in society or in the education curriculum unfortuneately
/r/seduction14/07/20 12:42 PM
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so a man approaching a woman first, does that indicate he would be able to protect her?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 11:21 AM
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did you also ask him out first or ask for his number first?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 11:18 AM
1

did you also ask him out first?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 11:16 AM
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do you feel they helped you?
/r/seduction11/07/20 07:35 PM
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it reminds me, I've seen many self-development coaches say, and I highly agree with them, they say they find it too bad and unfortuneate that social-skills are not taught in school or at home, better conversation ability, human interaction ability, social dynamics, etc.
/r/seduction11/07/20 07:34 PM
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interesting, the last thing you would expect a woman to do. Has making the first move or asking a guy out, ever worked out well for you?
/r/seduction11/07/20 07:28 PM
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the way it looks like, if an interaction goes poorly between a man and a woman, its always the mans fault
/r/seduction11/07/20 05:11 PM
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well that's awesome and very admirable, have you ever dated a guy or been in a long-term relationship in which you were the initiator, made the first move or asked him out first? as in, it worked out well for making the first move?
/r/seduction09/07/20 03:57 AM
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well I guess that's not the case for all men
/r/seduction09/07/20 12:54 AM
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have you ever made the first move or asked a guy out before? as in, asked him out first?
/r/seduction09/07/20 12:52 AM
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what does leading the conversation or interaction mean? does it mean that the guy is doing all or most of the talking? I figure a major reason why so many guys don't know what leading is, is because nobody taught them how, they need to see actual examples of it so they know how to implement it in real life. At the same time, its another reminder, how it bothers me, my mindset towards dating has changed over the years, it bothers me a lot when people call it a skillset or learnable skill, what ir…
/r/seduction09/07/20 12:50 AM
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another post I read somewhere, on a redpill community group on facebook, it was saying that women don't have to develop themselves in order to get dates or a boyfriend, but men do, here is what it says specifically: Guys, men, have to develop themselves in order to be seen as guys or men to get dates, a girlfriend or sex. Girls, women don't, which I read in the Redpill community. What I mean by developing themselves is, getting their shyness or social anxiety, social awkwardness handled, overcom…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 10:11 AM
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thats why i feel it hit me hard mentally around the end of 2017, I literally like to feel, think, it's only guys, men, who need to be the ones to know or learn how to get a date, get a girlfriend, get into a relationship, or attract someone of the other sex, not the other way around. Because c'mon, why or how do women, girls, need to know or learn how to meet guys, talk to guys, get a date, get a boyfriend or attract a guy when they don't have to take any action on their part, make anything happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 10:06 AM
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I believe what he means in regards to women not having to develop any dating skill, is that he means, women don't need to have any skills in terms of meeting and attracting a guy, getting into a relationship with a guy, since women don't have to initiate or escalate anything in the beginning, asking out first, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 10:02 AM
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not unusual at all for a case like him
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:16 PM
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a part of me likes to feel dating was easier before texting existed
/r/seduction02/04/20 09:52 PM
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"It is really too bad, unfortunate, that our schools do not teach conversation-skills, or that our society doesn't place more importance on conversation-skills. They are just as important as math or history or any other subject. Hell, to me, they are much more important, thousand times, million times more important, because communication is the way you climb social-ladders." "The better you are at conversation, the easier it is to get a job, promotion, attract people to form relationships, netwo…
/r/seduction23/01/20 04:35 AM
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ya men normally do the heavy lifting in the interaction
/r/seduction21/01/20 10:44 PM
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its just a sarcastic mindset, because the way I see it, the person who has to open their mouth first, needs more social-skills training
/r/seduction03/01/20 12:05 AM
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definetley an understatement, theres a reason why men get labeled "loser" more than women do
/r/MGTOW01/01/20 11:15 PM
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i like to feel if they made improving your conversation-skills as part of the education system in our formative years, it should be mandatory for men but optional for women, since the burden of opening your mouth first always falls on the guys shoulders
/r/seduction01/01/20 01:37 AM
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my brother is 26 and the same
/r/seduction17/12/19 10:48 AM
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it sucks it doesn't happen more often, most women are adamant about refusing to do it, they are like "men are hunters, blah blah blah, or men court women, it's been like that traditionally"
/r/RedPillWomen08/12/19 03:33 AM
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i'm definetley all for it happening more often, tons of guys are, but I doubt it will become a norm
/r/RedPillWomen08/12/19 03:32 AM
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its a reminder that cases, situations like this are male-dominated, for obvious reasons.
/r/seduction19/11/19 08:42 PM
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it truly looks like, a mans conversation-ability or social-skills ability, has a much bigger impact on his dating life, attractiveness, a lot more than the other way around
/r/seduction19/11/19 08:41 PM
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unfortuneately, women won't normally open their mouth first in front of a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 09:01 AM
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because reality is an injustice
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 12:56 AM
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the last thing you'd expect women to do, c'mon, it will always remain this way, guys, men, doing the heavy-lifting when it comes to dating.
/r/seduction22/08/19 11:15 PM
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its a whole growth process
/r/seduction22/08/19 11:11 PM
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well its quite obvious whose expected to open their mouth first
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 10:41 PM
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takes a lot of social exposure to get good at this
/r/seduction22/08/19 02:36 PM
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so many different behavioral or social ability things to know or learn, is what it comes down to it seems
/r/seduction22/08/19 02:33 PM
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an analogy I love, I feel it makes perfect sense, it is "you have to learn how to hunt, but you don't have to learn how to be prey"
/r/seduction22/08/19 06:18 AM
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why do you think so many guys are clueless as to how to lead? don't know how?
/r/seduction22/08/19 05:33 AM
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one thing for sure, a mans social-skills, conversation-skills, the way he talks, have a much bigger impact on his attractiveness or success with the other sex, more than the other way around, for guys, it seems its mostly behavioral-based
/r/seduction22/08/19 05:32 AM
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that's why if they made it part of the education curriculum in the future, improving your conversation-ability, it should be mandatory for men but optional for women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:59 AM
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that's why it bothers me when people call it a skillset, because it reminds me, I don't see what type of skills or see how women need to learn any behaviors or types of social-skill sets when they don't have to open their mouth first in front of a guy, don't have to escalate anything on their part.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 08:44 PM
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that's why it sometimes makes me laugh or cringe, that there is a dating advice industry for women, because I don't see how women need to know or learn how to get a date or boyfriend when it looks like everything simply "just happens" for them, since they don't have to take any action on their part.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 01:30 AM
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yup, a socially-awkward woman normally won't get labeled creepy or stalkerish, weird, the obvious reason is because women don't have the burden placed on their shoulders to take social-risks, to pursue someone or walk up to someone and open their mouth. Another equally as big of a reason, lets say if the roles were reversed, women were expected to make the first move or approach, pursue, they wouldn't get labeled creepy or stalkerish while socially-awkward, because since women are on average phy…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 01:24 AM
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yup, what is the logic behind why it makes a guy look weak in a womans eyes if he can't gather the courage to go talk to her, approach her? does it imply he would be weak to protect her? or other things?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 01:17 AM
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didn't think it would be this many comments, but damn, I definetley feel you man
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 10:00 AM
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yup, stubborn and adamant like most women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 09:57 AM
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can't speak for every guy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 09:44 AM
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unfortuneately, its something that too many parents, people, don't drill psychologically enough into their kids enough growing up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 08:50 AM
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its like so many different behavorial-things guys have to know or learn in order to have success with women.
/r/seduction12/07/19 01:36 AM
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getting phone numbers means nothing unless the girl shows up on the date, because a lot of women give out phone numbers to guys and they end up flaking or ghosting on the guy
/r/seduction05/07/19 02:50 AM
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other men say that, which bothers me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 07:52 PM
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yet too many people say that men have a position of power, as in like we control everything
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 02:34 AM
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why does it make a woman feel safe when a man initiates an interaction?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 06:47 AM
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yup, I don't see it changing ever, that's why it bothers me when people call it a skillset, its a long story as to why though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 07:56 AM
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damn straight, its also probably a huge factor, not saying its the only one, but one of the many factors, as to why the suicide rate is male-dominated, by a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 07:33 AM
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men never get a break from this sadly, almost never
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 07:32 AM
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I don't see this ever becoming the norm in society, or women doing it as much as men do, it sucks, it's probably the main thing I've always hated about being born male, that guys have to be the initiators, initiate the relationship, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 07:21 AM
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that's why I love this analogy, it takes practice, learning, trial and error, training, to become a hunter, but not for being a prey
/r/seduction09/06/19 09:50 AM
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women normally don't open their mouth first in front of a guy
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 01:56 AM
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It seems or feels that men were meant to go through more growth in life than women do
/r/seduction06/04/19 10:22 PM
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it still seems very rare for a woman to make the first move or initiate a relationship with a man
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 01:07 AM
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yup, more than likely, the one-sided burden of making the first move, being the initiator, will forever remain on the guys, mans shoulders
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 09:45 PM
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the injustice part of this, is that its biologically impossible for a woman to reach her 30s or 40s without ever having had a relationship before
/r/MGTOW219/03/19 08:07 PM
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that's because guys have to learn or master, acquire certain behaviors or types of social abilities
/r/askTRP19/03/19 08:06 PM
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article by Jesse Charger, i'd say the only thing I like about it, is Growth, but I never did agree or like the mindset of other guys saying that we have choice:https://www.seductionscience.com/2016/dating-isnt-fair/
/r/seduction11/01/19 07:03 PM
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video by RSD Max:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxkTm-158ec&t=8s
/r/seduction11/01/19 06:59 PM
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RSD Max made a video explaining that, also Jesse Charger of Seduction Science made a video and blog post about it as well.
/r/seduction10/01/19 07:23 PM
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sounds like teasing is the main form of flirting, but I know it's something that is difficult for many guys because they don't want to come across as insulting.
/r/seduction09/01/19 07:21 PM
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could have sworn I also heard somewhere, that girls can tell about the vibe the guy is, before he even says a single word.
/r/seduction09/01/19 05:37 PM
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it truly seems, that a guys social-skills, conversation-skills, conversation ability or social ability, has a much bigger impact on his dating success than the other way around, in other words, guys have to know or learn certain behaviors, behavior-skills, mindsets, attitudes, or just skills of some kind, skills that have to do with behavior or social ability, in order to have success with women, reason why I was specific that way, is because I was speaking on how I observed it, those social tra…
/r/seduction09/01/19 05:13 PM
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ya, that's why it's often said, and I believe there is a lot of truth to it, that guys, men, are meant to go through growth in life far more than women do, especially as a result of improving your dating life.
/r/seduction09/01/19 05:08 PM
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it looks like guys, men, need certain social training in their formative years
/r/seduction25/12/18 12:48 AM
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it does truly seem that a mans social-skills, conversation-skills, impact his dating success more than the other way around
/r/seduction24/12/18 02:14 AM
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in a different way I imagine
/r/MGTOW11/12/18 11:12 PM
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I sometimes wonder if leading the conversation, does that mean doing most of the talking, the one actually speaking the most
/r/seduction07/12/18 06:35 AM
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ya, something men deal with more than women
/r/seduction25/10/18 08:01 PM
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more common than you think
/r/seduction04/10/18 10:25 PM
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ya, its just when it comes to relationships, women seem entitled to men but men are never entitled to women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:35 AM
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I agree with you, but even when women don't want just that, even when women actually want a high quality relationship or serious boyfriend, they can get that as well, whenever they want, but this is key here, only if the guy who is pursuing them, is one they want back in return. Plus this is a true fact of life, most people who surpass their mid-20's or reach their 30's without ever having had a relationship before in the world, are male.
/r/MGTOW02/09/18 01:20 PM
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Charles Sledge has a great blog that discusses a lot of this and other topics
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre30/07/18 09:51 AM
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it's like for guys, becoming good with women is learned behavior, even though i'm aware there is a dating industry for women, me personally, I don't see how for women, becoming good with men is learned behavior for them because women are passive and don't have to be the ones to take action on their part, don't have to approach or initiate, lead the interaction on their part, because typically the way you learn things in life is by applying, doing the action, and since women are passive, that's w…
/r/seduction09/07/18 07:11 PM
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you became very good with women very young, I guess you had good male role models in your family growing up, because I believe it's very common for guys to be even in their 50s and 60s to still kinda suck with women
/r/seduction09/07/18 06:59 PM
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ya that will likely remain on mens shoulders until our sun incinerates the earth
/r/seduction09/07/18 06:56 PM
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men seem to be valued for status the most
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 04:33 PM
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yet people say we are never too old to learn this essential skill-set, that response bothers me, you know why? because it's easy to remind yourself to feel behind with others in terms of social-skills, conversation-skills, and yet people will say never compare yourself to anyone else, easier said than done, I like to feel there is a natural instinctive part in our human minds, maybe more so on guys, men, because people say part of masculinity is being competitive, and the word "compare" has comp…
/r/TheRedPill27/05/18 07:39 PM
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I've heard elsewhere, that women only need to start learning dating skills once they reach 30, or over 35
/r/TheRedPill27/05/18 07:14 PM
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interesting because girls normally don't do that
/r/seduction27/05/18 07:05 PM
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as I have gotten older, certain things about life, reality, society, have changed my perspective, like they change my impact like this, it makes me say to myself "wow, never thought of it that way before but now it totally makes sense". The way I see it, women don't need to know how to get a date or get a boyfriend, or attract a man, it simply "just happens" for them, but men are the only ones who need to know how to get or attract, get, I feel it makes sense because women don't have to do the p…
/r/seduction27/05/18 07:05 PM
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I find it very shocking to hear cases of women reaching their 30's without having had sex before or a boyfriend, because women normally don't have to do the pursuing and initiate
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 03:37 AM
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I feel, or at least it just looks like, it's more of practice for men than it is for women since men are expected to be the ones to start the conversation
/r/seduction21/05/18 05:30 AM
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why am I not surprised, it enrages me as to cases like this happen to men more than women
/r/askTRP13/05/18 09:56 PM
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obviously, men have to deal with rejection far more than women do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 04:28 AM
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the reasons are pretty obvious as to why most people in the world, society, who make it to 30 without ever having had a mate before or a relationship, are almost always male
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 11:35 PM
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well my brother will be 25 in May and he's never been on a single date in his life
/r/seduction27/03/18 02:24 AM
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girls don't really need game because they don't have to do the approaching
/r/seduction22/02/18 07:31 AM
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specifically, what do you think is the cause of more guys entering their 20's and 30's as virgins in this generation?
/r/MGTOW14/01/18 10:05 AM
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wanted to ask you, specifically, why is it that becoming good, better with women, helps you in other areas in life? because I noticed that on your article for KnowledgeForMen, but it got taken down sadly, why does it help a guy in career, business, etc.?
/r/seduction28/11/17 12:20 PM
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cases like you are much more common than you think
/r/askTRP16/11/17 10:40 PM
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find it more shocking to hear of a woman being single this long
/r/MGTOW31/10/17 01:43 PM
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i'm all for it but sadly I doubt it will ever become part of the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 10:20 PM
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why did it not work out well?
/r/RedPillWomen20/09/17 05:06 PM
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that's why I often times resent masculinity
/r/seduction19/09/17 06:54 AM
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you said if you resent what others have, you'll never have it, specifically, why is that the case? is it because if a person resents it, it will prevent them from taking action, or just prevent them from working towards it
/r/seduction10/09/17 03:06 PM
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much more common than you think for guys like you
/r/seduction09/09/17 02:16 AM
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there are many guys out there well into their 20's who are just like you
/r/seduction24/08/17 07:57 PM
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that's why it sounds like men were meant to grow, and become a better person through this far more than women do
/r/TheRedPill16/08/17 02:19 PM
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ya, but a lot of guys have good role models in their formative years that teach or help them how to be good with women, which makes knowing how to get a girlfriend common sense for them
/r/TheRedPill16/08/17 02:18 PM
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just wondering, what helped you the most in becoming good, great with women, as in better at approaching, talking to them, escalating with them, etc.? did you work with a dating coach or pick-up coach back in the day before you became one yourself?
/r/seduction16/08/17 01:48 PM
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what makes you stand out among many other guys is that you got great with women at a very young age, i can tell you have way more dating and sexual experience that most guys around your age
/r/seduction13/08/17 07:29 PM
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ya, as a guy girls are not going to help you
/r/askTRP08/08/17 12:24 AM
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but can a guy still succeed as long as he just goes for it and takes action like that if he doesn't assume attraction?
/r/seduction12/07/17 01:39 AM
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nuclear war you think? but ya i'm sure you can agree with my sarcasm, guys just don't get a break when it comes to this, if you think it's unfair on how girls almost never approach guys, I would imagine that's the same thing on how life is unfair on how animal predators won't show a newborn or baby animal any mercy when it has it cornered and the mother can't defend it
/r/seduction11/07/17 05:17 AM
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specifically, why does assuming she is interested in you help the guy a lot? why does it increase his chances of getting her?
/r/seduction11/07/17 05:15 AM
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the vast majority women are stubborn about this unfortuneately, they always say "because guys are hunters, or he's the hunter", "men court women, it goes back to when men courted women" those are the stubborn responses I always hear
/r/seduction08/07/17 09:26 PM
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I say this with sarcasm, but men approaching women will probably remain the norm until our Sun runs out of hydrogen and eventually consumes the Earth, which is scientifically what most scientists have estimated what will eventually lead to the end of the Earth
/r/seduction08/07/17 09:09 PM
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not uncommon at all for guys to end up as a 30+ year old virgin, more common than you think
/r/seduction07/07/17 10:14 PM
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ya I feel you on this
/r/askTRP05/07/17 01:27 AM
1

never heard of WGTOW before
/r/MGTOW20/06/17 04:55 PM
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powerful quote I stumbled upon almost a year ago, it is "Men either sink or swim, women pretty much float if that makes sense", "Men either rise to the top or sink to the bottom, while women exist somewhere happily in the middle" the first part is my favorite
/r/TheRedPill19/06/17 06:39 AM
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I can't find the article about leading
/r/seduction19/06/17 06:14 AM
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to me it seems most guys have the game figured out by their early 20's it seems, or is that not usually true? there are many guys out there just figuring this stuff out even in their 40's, 50's and 60's?
/r/TheRedPill19/06/17 06:13 AM
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specifically, why do you think it benefits, helps guys in other areas of his life? one of the many examples I've heard of guys improving their dating life, is it helps them in their business/career, such as getting a raise at work or getting promoted at work, and among other areas in life, but it doesn't have the same affect on women?
/r/TheRedPill19/06/17 06:12 AM
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ya, that's why they have dating coaches out there, to show you how to learn from failure
/r/TheRedPill19/06/17 06:04 AM
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ya me personally I don't, I always hated and resented being the hunter but I know I have to live with it if I want to see any daylight in the dating/mating game
/r/TheRedPill19/06/17 06:01 AM
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apparently some people say that for guys, getting good with women is like a gateway drug to life success, when a guy becomes good with women, it helps him in other areas of his life. To me it sounds like when a woman becomes good with men, it doesn't give her the same benefit
/r/TheRedPill19/06/17 06:00 AM
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ya, I bet men approaching women, men making the first move, asking out first, being the initiator in dating and relationships, will remain the norm until the sun runs out of hydrogen and eventually consumes the earth
/r/TheRedPill19/06/17 05:58 AM
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I bet you had to be the hunter
/r/seduction19/06/17 05:47 AM
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I wish it was more common for women to approach men and be the ones to initiate a relationship but i'm not holding my breath for it
/r/MGTOW30/05/17 01:39 AM
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sadly very rarely it happens
/r/seduction29/05/17 03:07 PM
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very common for guys
/r/MGTOW19/05/17 08:35 PM
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what has helped me go on more dates this year than the past several years combined is lowering my standards
/r/seduction19/05/17 08:35 PM
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ya it's just something we have to live with
/r/seduction08/05/17 07:12 PM
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besides humans, are there any animal species on the planet in which the female is the initiator or pursuer?
/r/TheRedPill08/05/17 07:11 PM
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it has been considered for me
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 07:42 PM
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cases like this are much more common than you think, i can sort of relate
/r/seduction03/05/17 07:32 PM
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ya i never would have expected that he lost his virginity at age 27
/r/seduction03/05/17 07:32 PM
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i bet either all or most of your clients are guys, men
/r/seduction03/05/17 08:20 AM
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i would try lowering your standards
/r/seduction27/04/17 03:32 AM
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ya, and the way it is oh well
/r/MGTOW16/04/17 08:14 PM
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ya even Charles Sledge admits it
/r/TheRedPill01/03/17 12:06 AM
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ya, men always have to do it
/r/seduction15/01/17 01:28 AM
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starying being upset about this once you surpass 25
/r/seduction01/01/17 02:50 AM
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i bet she is under the age of 25
/r/TheRedPill01/01/17 02:32 AM
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ya oh well, maybe try online dating as a next option
/r/seduction15/12/16 08:42 AM
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what does leading the interaction mean? because i know leading the interaction means more than just walking up, approaching, it means more than just approaching
/r/seduction30/11/16 02:58 AM
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how do they say come talk to me? does it happen in bars? as in telling the guy to approach them?
/r/seduction30/11/16 02:51 AM
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give examples of leading the interaction, what does it truly mean to lead the interaction?
/r/seduction27/11/16 10:56 PM
1

well don't a guys orgasms, ejaculations get weaker with age? or is their treatment for that?
/r/seduction24/11/16 08:21 PM
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what is the typical age-range of guys you coach, work with?
/r/seduction24/11/16 08:18 PM
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maybe if i was 18 or 21, 22 again, then taking action to improve my game would be more ideal, it bothers me, annoys me, it bothers me whenever people say that us guys supposedly become more attractive as we age, because our sex drive, peak sexual performance is in our 20's as guys, especially 18-25
/r/seduction24/11/16 08:35 AM
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sounds odd because women are usually stubbornly passive
/r/seduction23/11/16 12:46 PM
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wow really? i would have thought that the dating advice industry, as in dating coaches, PUA's, the seduction community, i would have thought it is mainly geared towards men rather than women, because you would think men need more help than women do because guys are still expected to make the first move and be the initiators
/r/seduction23/11/16 09:50 AM
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depends on your age
/r/seduction18/05/16 01:15 AM
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I would be honest about it
/r/seduction17/03/16 10:55 PM
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by the way, what is your height OP?
/r/seduction08/03/16 10:38 AM
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well I believe you, but still, it's just a strong guess of mine, I imagine the number of women who are in that age-bracket who have never had a boyfriend before or are a virgin is smaller than the age-bracket of guys who have never had a girlfriend and a virgin
/r/seduction08/03/16 12:20 AM
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really? these are women who are in their late 20's, over the age of 30 that are virgins, never had a boyfriend before?
/r/seduction06/03/16 12:06 PM
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it seems guys are more at risk of going deep into their 20's, 30+ and never having a relationship before, still a virgin, but it doesn't really surprise me, it's probably because guys still have to approach and be the initiators, and if a guy is still a virgin or never had a relationship by them, he very likely is socially-awkward, has some social-anxiety or shyness, meanwhile that will not hurt women, this video right here says it all:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91SlnIVDFso
/r/seduction05/03/16 04:39 PM
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well if it makes you feel better, there are loads of guys in Japan around your age and older who are still a virgin
/r/seduction04/03/16 07:41 AM
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seems it could be an epidemic in this generation
/r/askTRP25/02/16 11:01 PM
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I can sort of relate to you, and I've gained weight too recently, I feel the lack of a girlfriend or not getting laid has really hindered my motivation for exercising/working out
/r/seduction06/02/16 05:36 AM
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are you implying you have never had a girlfriend before but you have only gotten laid casually? never been exclusive with a girl before?
/r/askTRP01/02/16 11:27 PM
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i'm a few years older than you and I still haven't had a girlfriend yet
/r/seduction24/01/16 05:45 PM
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well that's interesting to her because girls almost never approach guys or make the first move
/r/seduction11/01/16 11:22 AM
1

so you are saying guys should feel lucky to be born male?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 08:31 AM
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ya well since you are a guy, the responsibility is all on your shoulders unfortuneately
/r/seduction10/01/16 02:34 AM
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and why is a person never too old to learn this?
/r/seduction10/01/16 02:00 AM
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what specifically do you think makes some a guys naturals at being initiators/escalators with women? they know how to do it and when to do it?
/r/seduction02/01/16 04:15 AM
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what do you mean? a mans 20's are his sexual peak, peak sexual performance years
/r/seduction13/12/15 07:56 PM
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ya your lucky you got to meet her while in the prime of your life
/r/seduction08/12/15 03:31 AM
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I assume you are still in your 20's OP? if not, I assume you met your current GF while still in your 20's
/r/seduction08/12/15 02:39 AM
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i'm a little older than you and can sort of relate
/r/seduction06/12/15 04:07 AM
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yes but no luck
/r/seduction03/12/15 11:15 PM
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well I wonder why being the initiator, it seems most guys learn how to do that, or just naturally, instinctively, innately know how to do it by their late teens and early 20's it seems
/r/seduction01/12/15 10:32 PM
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it seems there is an epidemic of guys, men in this generation, i'm one of them, who are 25+ years of age and never had a girlfriend before
/r/seduction01/12/15 08:17 PM
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reason why I say that is because women don't have to be the initiators
/r/seduction01/12/15 06:52 PM
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I can sort of relate to you bro, there are times I have had the thoughts if I was born a woman, I would not have been single this long
/r/seduction01/12/15 03:42 AM
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maybe stop fapping a lot, and seriously girls approaching you first? any of them you find attractive? a lot of guys dream of that happening to them, you should feel lucky
/r/seduction20/11/15 08:46 PM
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I feel your pain, i'm 27 and still single as well, I often feel jealous, envious, bitter, resentful towards people that had relationships earlier in life
/r/seduction06/11/15 06:19 PM
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I met a guy recently who told me he got his very first girlfriend at the age of 31, despite being happy that he finally has a girlfriend, he told me he still gets jealous, envious of guys, men, who had girlfriends earlier in their lives.
/r/seduction05/09/15 10:33 AM
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so the 4 stages of competence is what is highly recommended then? another big issue of mine, is I feel I will always be jealous, envious of the guys, men, who were successful with women, or are successful with women that are guys younger than me, I know a guy who did not get his very first girlfriend until the age of 31, despite being happy that he finally has a girlfriend, he said he still occasionally gets jealous, envious of guys that got to have a girlfriend before he did.
/r/seduction27/08/15 07:57 PM
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I don't know if you have heard of this other Dating/Seduction Coach named Jesse Charger, he runs a site/blog called Seduction Science, this is what he says about it being the mans role to lead the interaction with women, he says he believes society, school, the work environment, screws a lot of us guys up when it comes to success with women, one he said this, it made me get angry, bitter, resentful, because it makes me feel I've been negatively conditioned to be this way to lack success with wom…
/r/seduction26/08/15 06:26 PM
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this book, along with another book I strongly have the urge to get and read, is "No More Mr. Nice-Guy" by Dr. Robert Glover, I think, not sure, I think Mark Manson endorsed, recommended that book as well, is that true?
/r/seduction26/08/15 09:12 AM
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ya because I remember one guy said this: "You act like taking the initiative is some kind of burden or drudgery. Most normal, red-blooded guys enjoy taking the initiative and do it automatically. It's not a matter of "have to". A normal testosterone level and, at least, average intelligence, should ensure that a guy has more than enough assertiveness and initiative to get and maintain a relationship." The way it sounds like, or the way i'm interpreting it, it's like as if us guys, men, taking ac…
/r/seduction26/08/15 09:06 AM
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number 21 is the one I dislike the most, I don't know why, it's always been that way, they say men evolved over the course of evolution to be the pursuer, initiator, they say guys are hunters by nature, I don't know why me being born a guy, taking initiative was never something I did naturally innately, automatically. In fact I resented and wishing women initiated interest more often.
/r/seduction26/08/15 02:40 AM
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because they always expect the man to make the first move, do the approaching and asking out, taking the lead, overall, be the initiator of dating and relationships, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 06:59 PM
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still, never like the one-sided general role that us guys have to approach and ask out first
/r/seduction07/08/15 02:09 AM
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sometimes I feel that way too because us guys are still expected to make the first move, do the approaching and asking out, be the initiators, I love this video right here, this guy sums up the pain, frustration guys have to go through: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91SlnIVDFso
/r/seduction06/08/15 03:21 AM
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I just hate how people think men have it easier when women ultimately have the final say
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 07:36 PM
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and women are on the receiving end of sexual attention, dating requests, women are not dealt with the burden that men have in having to take the lead, do the leading, making the first move and asking out, approaching, etc. As a man I resent those cards I was dealt with for having a penis, unfortuneately I have no choice but to accept and deal with it if I want to have success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 06:42 PM
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well I believe there are far more male late bloomers than female late bloomers in the world of dating, relationships, and sex, or maybe women are just less vocal about it than men are, because whenever you hear of a person who is 25+ years of age and still a virgin, never had a relationship before, it's almost always guys you hear of.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 06:12 PM
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I feel your pain, i'm 27 and still single, never had a girlfriend, often times I feel bitter and resentful, angry, frustrated that me being born a guy, I was dealt with the card of having to make the first move, do the approaching and asking out, being the initiator, etc. My lack of success with women for so long now I feel has also made it very difficult for me to focus on other areas in my life, such as getting a career going for me.
/r/seduction11/07/15 08:26 PM
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