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ConversationH8beingmale/r/seduction28/05/22 10:59 PM
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DiscussionH8beingmale/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 02:24 AM
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ConversationH8beingmale/r/seduction21/11/21 10:04 PM
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ConversationH8beingmale/r/seduction26/11/21 12:38 PM
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ConversationH8beingmale/r/seduction09/01/22 01:39 AM
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DiscussionH8beingmale/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 08:29 PM
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FundamentalsH8beingmale/r/seduction23/04/22 11:27 PM
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yeah 23 isn't so bad, for many people, it seems to be end of 20s and over 30 when people start to feel the most ashame or out of place if still a virgin by then
/r/seduction07/06/26 03:11 AM
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i misunderstood this post then, are you saying your dating life has been unsatisfactory?
/r/seduction07/06/26 12:04 AM
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yeah but women don't approach guys thats not the norm and never will be
/r/seduction06/06/26 04:57 AM
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are you saying you never dated?
/r/seduction06/06/26 04:56 AM
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yeah because humans are unfortuneately not owed intimacy and sex, relationships, as enraging and cruel as it is though
/r/seduction18/05/26 09:37 PM
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true that, but its just what i've noticed over the years
/r/seduction12/05/26 09:50 PM
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yeah i wonder if you are on the autism spectrum because autistic guys sure seem to have a high rate of becoming wizards or don't have sex until 30 plus or later
/r/seduction12/05/26 08:43 PM
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yeah nature doesn't care if men don't get results, it only does for women
/r/seduction26/04/26 01:15 AM
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i would say the age number i have started to hate and resent the most in regards to the 40s decade is 42, because of testimonials or clients from the mens dating coach community over the years, even though ideally, most people and most society, they have the attitude or mindset that people are supposed to celebrate or feel happy or feel accomplished even if they get results even if is results later than the societal norm or what is socially acceptable. Counteractual grief is the word, but yeah i…
/r/seduction23/04/26 01:03 AM
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yup, i will never understand why people and society still think men have the advantage
/r/seduction05/03/26 01:23 PM
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it won't matter or never will matter, more than likely, men will forever be stuck with this gender dynamic whether they like it or not
/r/seduction04/03/26 08:24 PM
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yeah i think its common for men over 40 to still be able to attract women in their 20s
/r/seduction28/01/26 03:53 AM
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he never had a girlfriend until his early 30s?
/r/seduction28/01/26 03:52 AM
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yup men will more than likely always be stuck with that
/r/seduction18/12/25 05:31 PM
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reminds me of a long post
/r/seduction18/12/25 05:30 PM
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thank you for stating the obvious
/r/seduction27/11/25 01:55 AM
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autistic guys also have a high rate of reaching later 20s or still being virgins at 30 plus and older, i figure it just comes with the territory, many will think cold approach is not recommended but meeting people organically through mutual friends or online dating is the better way for them
/r/seduction19/11/25 11:49 PM
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yup, somethings will always be the same in regards to the state of affairs between men and women, as much as it fills me with anger and resentment
/r/seduction03/11/25 07:11 PM
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never gonna be normalized or i just highly doubt it
/r/seduction24/10/25 05:12 PM
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i would think its a prank or be skeptical too since 99 percent of women don't do that
/r/seduction24/10/25 05:11 PM
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will always be controversial, there will always be people who say they do a good service for humanity, others are repulsed by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 12:06 AM
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thats what it seems like
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 12:02 AM
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yeah, i think there is a rise in single lonely men more common than ever before
/r/seduction14/10/25 11:41 PM
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yup, another reminder on how my mindset and perspective has changed towards how the world works, nature and reality is designed in which simply by default, just existing as a guy, human male, you are NOT guaranteed dating options or attention from the other gender, interest from the other gender, for simply just existing.
/r/seduction08/10/25 09:38 PM
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i highly doubt this will ever be normalized
/r/seduction06/10/25 02:07 AM
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yeah it seems guys, men, were meant to reap and experience more side-benefits than women do as a result of improving your dating life
/r/seduction24/09/25 08:16 PM
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specifically, why does it have a massive benefit affect on other areas of the rest of your life? why so?
/r/seduction22/09/25 02:23 PM
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i agree with another user, it doesn't matter unfortuneately because i'm sure men will forever be stuck with the role of having to approach and make the first move all the time, hence i'm sure the FA community will always be male dominated
/r/seduction22/09/25 12:20 AM
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yeah i wonder if you are autistic
/r/seduction29/06/25 01:37 PM
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i assume your BF was the one who asked you out and courted you
/r/seduction23/06/25 05:44 AM
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i'm open to considering it, keyword though
/r/seduction28/05/25 07:27 PM
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you get hit on by girls? shocking, because girls normally never hit on guys
/r/seduction24/05/25 12:16 AM
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yeah lots of men feel embarassed and ashamed on this, because it seems most men naturally figure out how to get women without having seeked help from a mentor or dating coach, pick up artist
/r/seduction23/05/25 11:56 PM
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well thats awesome and very admirable of you, how did you both meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 12:42 AM
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you as a woman have you asked a guy out before?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:53 PM
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i don't disagree but it normally never happens, even handsome good looking high status men normally never have women hitting on them or have women making advances on them.
/r/seduction07/05/25 02:15 AM
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yup that is a luxury men will never have
/r/seduction07/05/25 02:15 AM
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i will always be a broken record on this, but obviously mental/social/cognitive disabilites that impact or affect people socially, are obviously going to impact mens dating lives more than womens dating lives because of for all time and probably for all eternity, men always having to be the ones to make advances on women and do the pursuing, asking out
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:08 AM
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shocking, last thing to expect, did you and her continue seeing each other after she approached you?
/r/seduction22/04/25 06:10 AM
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to sum it up, if a date is boring, its always the mans fault
/r/seduction22/04/25 06:08 AM
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basically just being sarcastic and speaking of my lifelong resentment of men always having to be the ones to make the first move all the time and having to be the ones to shoot their shot, we all know that for all time, women normally never shoot their shot with men they like, i'm sure it will be that way for all eternity
/r/seduction04/04/25 08:03 PM
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oh please, men will always be stuck with that role whether they hate it or not
/r/seduction04/04/25 04:26 PM
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yeah lots of guys with autism feel its hopeless for them with dating/relationships, women. Even those that don't feel that way, still have a high rate of becoming wizards
/r/seduction02/04/25 03:45 AM
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yeah it's not unusual for autistic men to become wizards, or lots of them feel its hopeless for them
/r/seduction23/03/25 10:49 PM
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interesting
/r/seduction17/03/25 03:46 AM
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oh, how would you say you figured the dating game out? would you describe yourself as a natural? naturals refers to guys, men, who never needed help or guidance on this
/r/seduction11/03/25 01:20 AM
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did you work with or have a dating coach, mentor?
/r/seduction10/03/25 09:50 PM
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shocking question
/r/seduction04/03/25 11:31 PM
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yeah because people in the mens dating advice community, refer to guys, men that are "naturals", they are described as guys, men, who never needed to seek help from a dating/relationship coach, mentors, or pick up artist or never needed to read a book on seduction, attraction, they for some reason, always knew how to successfully interact with women or just figured it out right away without any of the sources i mentioned. However, lots of people say those guys are in the extreme minority.
/r/seduction26/02/25 05:07 AM
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would the OP consider himself a natural with women? as in, he never needed a mentor or guidance, help on this?
/r/seduction26/02/25 04:50 AM
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yeah the burden of testosterone is the reason
/r/seduction26/02/25 04:48 AM
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yeah ASD men have a high rate of becoming wizards
/r/seduction24/02/25 09:55 PM
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valid points
/r/seduction23/02/25 11:29 PM
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even though i haven't gotten any results with this opener, its a favorite sarcastic opener if she is looking at me, it is "i saw you looking at me so i thought i'd walk up to you and open my mouth because i'm a guy and thats what we guys do".
/r/seduction23/02/25 11:27 PM
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nothing new
/r/seduction23/02/25 06:19 PM
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yeah it has been a sarcastic mindset of mine for years now, it seems guys, men, were meant to reap or just experience more side benefits than women do as a result of improving your dating life, and brutal fact, if you as a guy want her to open her legs for you, you as a guy have to open your mouth first, men will more than likely always be stuck with this role whether they like it or not, hence why the forever alone community, wizardy community will always be male dominated
/r/seduction23/02/25 06:16 PM
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yeah just a brutal mean fact of nature, i believe throughout history, more women than men have passed on their genes.
/r/seduction16/02/25 02:16 AM
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Embrace rejection, awkwardness, "cringing moments", sometimes be labeled as a creep and etc. There's no way away from this. It's part of the game. Part of being a man and part of life. It doesn't matter your level, you'll always face rejection. It's better to grow a tick skin for all these things sooner rather than later. reminds me of a long written statement from the founder of girls chase that ways very eye opening
/r/seduction07/02/25 01:11 AM
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very shocking question, for all time, all eternity, women normally are never the ones to make a move on a guy they like, and why do i get the feeling that will never be normalized
/r/seduction07/02/25 12:40 AM
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very moving comment from the founder, wish someone told me that in my teens or early 20s
/r/seduction07/02/25 12:24 AM
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yeah men are the only gender that were meant to reap rewards
/r/seduction24/01/25 11:33 PM
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yeah, the struggles that women have, normally never involve having a hard time meeting someone or getting into a relationship with someone or having options, yeah its just that me and lots of guys, men, have had awkward interactions just from approaching, awkward interactions, in which sadly the women labeled or thought of us as weird, creepy, or made her uncomfortable just for approaching, which is embarassing and hurts to think about, makes us feel stupid, it makes us men not want to try anymo…
/r/seduction21/01/25 04:54 AM
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yeah but even if men get awkward interactions with women like i described? Yeah, its another reminder that, men, not women, men are the only gender it seems, keyword seems, that have to go through the painful learning process of how to successfully interact with the other sex and not make them uncomfortable, women obviously never have to worry about making men uncomfortable or creeped out, weird. But yeah, for men, there is no escaping this role or burden unless they want to be forever alone/cel…
/r/seduction21/01/25 02:05 AM
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doesn't matter, men will always be stuck with the burden or role of initiating interactions with the opposite sex, and that means even men risking making women uncomfortable or getting thrown the creepy/weird label, accidentally bothering women when those men have no clue what they were doing wrong and they had friendly intentions going into the interaction
/r/seduction17/01/25 04:11 AM
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at the end of the day, it doesn't matter because no matter how messed up or screwed up the social dynamics between men and women become from the description of this post, question, men will more than likely always be stuck with this role whether they like it or not, hence why the FA community, wizard community will always be male dominated
/r/seduction15/01/25 02:55 AM
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most shocking question ever
/r/seduction27/12/24 01:38 AM
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yeah just a sarcastic comment, its quite obvious that men have always had to work harder to get laid or to get into a relationship than women do
/r/seduction23/12/24 03:32 AM
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yup, another reminder on how my whole mentality has changed on how men and women interact with each other
/r/seduction23/12/24 03:28 AM
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"most foundational reasons on why most people don't get laid.", instead of people, it should say "men", not people, because obviously for all time, its men that have to do the heavy-lifting in dating/relationships, seduction, courtship.
/r/seduction23/12/24 03:27 AM
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a question that will always be asked
/r/seduction20/12/24 10:39 PM
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men on the asd spectrum do seem to have a right rate of becoming wizards
/r/seduction19/12/24 09:02 PM
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why am i not surprised
/r/seduction18/12/24 11:51 PM
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i assume you had to be the one to ask her out
/r/seduction18/12/24 12:11 AM
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your a woman, do nothing, the man will do everything
/r/seduction08/11/24 09:22 PM
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i assume your BF was the one who asked you out and hit on you
/r/seduction08/11/24 09:21 PM
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wrong subreddit
/r/seduction08/11/24 03:28 PM
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what men always have done, walk up to them and open your mouth
/r/seduction08/11/24 03:27 PM
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women can get away with feelings like this towards men and they will still have options, men who overlook that in them, but not so much the other way around, cruel fact.
/r/seduction31/10/24 11:19 PM
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duh, for all time, walk up to them and open your mouth, men will always be stuck with that whether they like it or not
/r/seduction27/10/24 11:09 PM
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men are the only gender that have to practice
/r/seduction26/10/24 08:55 PM
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your own place, a home owner? or you live in an apartment?
/r/seduction25/10/24 11:16 PM
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hopefully you have had some good experiences with escorts
/r/seduction25/10/24 10:38 PM
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lots of guys, men, hate or resent having to deal with the burden of courtship and having to lead interactions with women, having to do the approaching and making the first moves all the time, escorts or sex workers doesn't require any game or courtship, seduction, social-skills, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 11:47 PM
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for number 3, another reminder that, men tend to experience more side benefits than women do
/r/seduction11/10/24 12:19 AM
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"Nobody cares, get to work. No one but you is gonna provide what you want from life." yup indeed, for men yes, women, they just have to exist and they are guaranteed interest from men
/r/seduction09/10/24 11:04 PM
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doesn't matter, men will always be stuck with this whether they like it or not, hence why there will always be more male wizards than female wizards
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 04:43 AM
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why the hell do women need skills for dating and attraction? it doesn't make sense
/r/seduction29/09/24 02:32 PM
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i assume with your GF, you were the one that asked her out and hit on her
/r/seduction29/09/24 02:31 PM
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another reminder that, it seems mens overall lives improve more than womens do as a result of improving your dating life
/r/seduction08/07/24 01:18 AM
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yup, i've had the mindset for years now, men are the only gender that have to practice when it comes to learning how to or just getting better at interacting with the other sex
/r/seduction30/06/24 11:54 PM
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i went to one to end a long dryspell and when it became clear that a woman i was involved with, was not interested in having a sexual/intimate relationship.
/r/seduction30/06/24 11:52 PM
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in my case, normal true girlfriend, the only woman i feel that was a true girlfriend for me, a situationship from 2017, even though we were not exclusive, she was the closest thing to a girlfriend i ever had, the previous one, however, i kinda refuse to call her that since it was a mostly sexless relationship. As for what i feel will prevent me, is autism.
/r/seduction30/06/24 10:54 PM
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i'm sure lots of men would avoid doing this if they were never pressured to
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 09:28 PM
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what i meant is, guys always having to make the first move and ask the girl out, be the initiators, i'm sure that social dynamic will always remain the same, i like to think that, thats normal and natural as lions and tigers eating meat instead of plants and vegetables.
/r/seduction27/06/24 09:42 AM
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well i'm sure the social dynamics of dating and courtship will always remain the same
/r/seduction27/06/24 09:28 AM
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well cold approach will never die, thats a fact
/r/seduction27/06/24 09:20 AM
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99 percent of women will never do this
/r/seduction20/06/24 02:31 AM
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a lot of truth to that, well if she is mute, lots of guys would choose not to pursue things further with her, but she will still get plenty of offers though
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:24 PM
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yup even some male dating coaches say that, men are in default scarcity, women are in default abundance
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:24 PM
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well even if a woman gets into a relationship with a man she wants, the man is still normally the one that initiates communication with her and is the one that asks her out, takes the lead
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:03 PM
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how so? are you saying you have had women approach you or hit on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:00 PM
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well women still 99 percent of the time will never approach a guy or shoot their shot with a guy they like
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:00 PM
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i like this mentality of what some male dating coaches for men say, they say that men are naturally in scarcity with women but women are naturally in abundance with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:57 PM
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i assume every guy you dated, he was the one who asked you out and courted you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 04:34 AM
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lots of autistic men become wizards
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 04:34 AM
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in this post, are you saying that women with autism, don't desire sex as much? are they more likely to be asexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:20 PM
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i assume you met your dream guy while in your 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:06 PM
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why am i not surprised, and im sure you have had plenty of boyfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:53 PM
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well women don't really have to do jackshit to make a relationship happen since the man is normally the one asking her out
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:08 PM
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well i assume every boyfriend you had, he was the one that asked you out and made a move on you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:07 PM
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there is no denying the fact that the vast majority of heterosexual couples are together because the man made the first move and asked the woman out
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:06 PM
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well i assume every guy you dated, he was the one that asked you out and started the interaction
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:05 PM
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thats not the norm, most men will never have women throwing themselves at them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:02 PM
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i assume your husband was the one who asked you out and courted you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:55 PM
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i've heard some say its part of the process of getting better
/r/seduction23/05/24 01:09 AM
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yeah because plenty of guys say that is inevitable, that its bound to happen with approaches
/r/seduction22/05/24 06:47 AM
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were there ever times you got labeled creepy or weird by women, or had interactions with women in which the women felt uncomfortable?
/r/seduction22/05/24 06:32 AM
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i assume with your GF, you were the one that asked her out
/r/seduction06/05/24 08:13 AM
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yeah because men are the only gender that were meant to have a mentor
/r/seduction04/05/24 01:01 AM
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yup i assume the advice from the book in regards to approaching is still helpful for today im guessing
/r/seduction01/05/24 01:10 AM
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that book is from the late 90s, i wonder if it is still relevant today
/r/seduction01/05/24 01:07 AM
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yeah men are naturally in scarcity with women but women are naturally in abundance with men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:30 AM
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yeah i always resented how its always been up to the guy to do the asking out
/r/seduction28/04/24 02:58 AM
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why am i not surprised
/r/seduction25/04/24 12:23 AM
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i assume with your GF, you were the one that asked her out
/r/seduction25/04/24 12:17 AM
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99 percent of the time this never happens
/r/seduction16/04/24 03:49 PM
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i think a lot of men feel this way, because they feel that men are naturally in scarcity with women but women are naturally in abundance with men, because women always have options since they are the ones that get chased/pursued, hit on
/r/seduction16/04/24 03:37 PM
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that book was published in the 90s, i wonder if what is mentioned in that book is relevant even today
/r/seduction06/04/24 02:58 AM
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i know its not for everyone, to each their own, works out well for plenty of guys, others no, but a lot of guys pay for sex, or go to an escort or sex worker, or prostitute for their first time, but not for everyone, to each their own, for a lot of guys, they say it counts, for others it doesn't, but at the end of the day, escorts, sex workers, prostitutes, are still real people, real human beings.
/r/seduction21/03/24 02:40 AM
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reminds me of a mindest i've had for years now regarding this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 12:39 AM
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shocking question
/r/seduction18/03/24 01:32 AM
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yup, men are the only gender that have to do all the learning
/r/seduction13/03/24 10:04 PM
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yeah just being sarcastic because me and tons of guys worldwide have always hated, resented, how its always been up to guys to make the first move and be the initiators, ask the woman out, why can't women go after men too right?
/r/seduction13/03/24 08:23 PM
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because for all time and likely all eternity, girls normally never make a move on a guy they like or never shoot their shot with a guy they like
/r/seduction13/03/24 08:06 PM
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shocking question
/r/seduction13/03/24 06:41 PM
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another reminder on how i get irritated that there are even dating coaches for women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:44 AM
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why would women need skills to attract men when they don't have to do the courting or the making advances?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:43 AM
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its amazing what a healthy childhood can do
/r/seduction08/03/24 01:00 AM
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got out of a failed relationship that didn't feel like a true relationship, resent having to go through the drama and burden of courtship, seduction, all over again
/r/seduction02/02/24 10:48 PM
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BFE, stands for, Boyfriend Experience, as in, do these male escorts, male sex workers, do real kissing and making out, physical intimacy with women as in actual couples do?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:50 PM
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what about male escorts, male sex workers that offer "BFE" for women? it should be obvious what it stands for
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:14 PM
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well it is socially accepted by most people that women can get sex a lot more easily than men can, especially since for all time, women have always been on the receiving end of sexual attention
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:13 PM
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reminds me how my mentality has changed
/r/seduction29/01/24 09:32 PM
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even if men stopped approaching women in the masses or droves, i highly doubt it will cause women to start approaching men for once
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:39 PM
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99 percent of women will never ask a guy out first
/r/seduction08/01/24 11:46 AM
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i assume with your GF, you had to ask her out and start talking to her
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:43 PM
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arguments i hear as to why people say women have it harder, they will say: They know that less men will be inspired to pursue them, approach them as their looks fade. They’re also aware that their fertility starts dropping once they reach their 30s, so they often feel rushed to find the right man before it’s too late. That’s got to suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 02:47 AM
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perfect understatement
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 04:13 AM
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women seeking A.I. Boyfriends? i find that very hard to believe, seriously, but guys, men, seeking A.I. Girlfriends, very believable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 04:13 AM
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historically, its past 25
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:04 AM
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has you making the first move as a woman, ever worked out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:01 AM
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sadly its not unusual for a lot of men on the spectrum to feel or think their case is a death sentence for being forever single, celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 09:40 AM
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i assume with your GF, you had to be the one to ask her out and hit on her
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:07 AM
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were there ever times you got uncomfortable reactions from people in social situations? as in, people thinking you were either weird or annoying even though you had good intentions when trying to be social?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:07 AM
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and people and society expect guys, men, to have common sense or just the social intuition, social calibration, social intelligence(a word i don't hear used that often, barely becoming familiar with), for being able to read womens minds(for knowing if a woman is interested or not interested), for knowing how to NOT behave or act creepy or weird, uncomfortable around women. Because a lot of guys, men, get thrown those labels when they were never trying to hurt anyone, they never meant any harm, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:04 AM
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and a lot of times, for guys, men, its not so much rejection that hurts, its the way that it happens, these guys, men know, that not every woman will like them and they know they won't like every woman either, but they are angry that women can get away with being socially inept, socially awkward, not understanding social cues or bounddaries when talking to, interacting with the other sex, because if a guy makes awkward advances on a woman that are in violation of the womans boundaries, that guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:50 AM
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these people you know, people to, the guys, men, they told you that if they had to do it all over again, reborn again in a different life, they would choose to be born a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:36 AM
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and if women have jealousy or bitterness, resentment towards men, tons of men will overlook that in a woman and still be willing to date her or sleep with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:33 AM
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interesting, and unexpected, did you also ask him out first or ask for his number? i made that comment because i was expressing sarcasm due to my lifelong hatred of guys having to make the first move and court women, take the lead and be the initiators
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:38 AM
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well i picked my username due to my lifelong hatred and resentment of men always having to make the first move and court women, taking the lead, be the initiators in terms of starting a relationship, asking her out, etc. Reminds me, i read this comment, statement from a guy on a youtube video, who was expressing his anger and rage, frustration, due to the cards he was dealt with for being born a guy, human male. He got a response from a guy, saying: "Boo fucking hoo. We also don't have to go thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:20 AM
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but i assume your husband was the one who asked you out, pursued you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 11:18 PM
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and i think most of society and people expect guys to have that figured out in high school
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 09:03 PM
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A guy who joins a social group and starts hitting on all the women there indiscriminately is a sign of an undesirable mindset ya but thats kinda dumb and stupid for people to get on the mans case since guys are doing what nature and reality expects of them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 09:03 PM
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i know i side with the OP when i get mad and angry whenever people and society think men still have it better than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:52 AM
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well women are never expected to make a move or make moves or make advances on a guy they like, or towards men in general, and because of women not being viewed as a danger or threat due to men being the more physically stronger or slightly bigger gender, thats why it feels or seems like women can get away a lot more than men can when it comes to not understanding social cues or social boundaries much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:51 AM
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that makes me more mad and angry whenever people and society say the statement, quote "theres someone for everyone"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:12 AM
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thats what it seems like, i agree in which women can get away with what you mentioned but men can't
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 11:36 PM
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ya but i don't see that ever changing, women normally will never approach a guy or ask a guy out
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 09:24 PM
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a part of me likes to think, for all guys, men, there is the inevitable type of response from a woman in which he will either be labeled or perceived as a creepy or weird, or be made uncomfortable, i'm aware that we can't please everyone, i'm aware that not everyone will like us, but for tons of guys, me included, making social mistakes when meeting women that causes us to get labeled creepy or weird, bothersome, is very painful, makes us feel very stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 09:24 PM
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yup and people expect guys and men to have common sense for knowing when to back out or leave the interaction, conversation, understand and be aware when the woman is interested or not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:52 PM
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and not just rejection, but unfortuneately the risk of accidentally making the woman feel uncomfortable or creeped out, scared, violated her boundaries, and the guy, man, never meant any harm, never knew any better, and people and society expect guys to have common sense for knowing what is creepy and what is not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 07:14 PM
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and not just for sleeping only, even if the guy wants a girlfriend or wife, mother of his children, just wants to have a dating life in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 06:55 PM
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not just solely for getting laid, but same thing for going or getting dates, getting into a relationship, due to nature and reality dictating that men have to do the pursuing and lead the interaction, court women, initiate and take the lead in things, women can literally just sit back and let it all happen to them. If your a guy, women are never going to fall in your lap, but if your a woman, men there will always be an option of a guy falling in your lap.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 06:54 PM
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well its far more common for men than for women to reach a certain age and have always been alone, never dated, than the other way around, i'm sure no doubt most 30 and 40 year old people in the world who have never been with anyone, are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:13 AM
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seems to work well for plenty of guys
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 02:22 AM
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i think for many women, it gives them an ego boost, pride boost
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:42 PM
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well a lot of people feel that way since women don't have to do the pursuing or be the one to ask a guy out, make a move on a guy they like
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:38 AM
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yup, just like with sex workers, escorts, there are women that offer men "GFE", but i don't really hear of male sex workers, escorts, that offer women "BFE", because women normally never struggle to attract men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:34 PM
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absolutely, the typical woman has the pull of a male famous star athlete or celebrity
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:37 PM
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i see nothing wrong
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 05:26 PM
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well the one sided dynamic of men always having to approach
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:39 AM
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i wonder if male BFE sex workers actually exist for women out there, which i started a thread about
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:30 AM
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men initiating an interaction has always been and more than likely always will be remain the norm, same thing with men having to ask the woman out, and do the pursuing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:29 AM
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i assume late bloomer, as in, someone who has never been in a sexual relationship by the time they have reached 25?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:28 AM
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what type of career do you have?
/r/seduction12/09/23 04:23 AM
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well most people in the world i have noticed over the years, who go deep into their 20s, enter their 30s and older, and have never dated, been single their whole lives, those cases are male-dominated
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 10:06 PM
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yup, people argue and say that the reason why it makes a guy weak if he can't approach a woman, is because, women know that men have to risk rejection by walking over and talking to them, introducing themselves, and women feel if a guy is unable to handle the possibility of being rejected, then he won't be able to handle the world for her
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:52 PM
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"C'mon...women will never, ever, ever, ever and ever approach a guy! Period! It's not her role to do that despite the progression women have made in society at large; i.e., salary, jobs, positions, women in military, etc...Gentlemen, regardless if a woman is a CEO of company, a government official, 5 star General, department head in a company, women are still women. You can't change that. It's your inner strength, your character, your personality. It's demonstrating you have high value, are self…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 02:52 AM
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did you ask him out first?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 02:51 AM
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hence why there will always be more male wizards, why there always have been more male wizards than female wizards
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 02:51 AM
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but i assume he was the one that asked you for your number, and that he was the one who asked you out, planned and set up the first date and first couple of dates
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 02:43 AM
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men on long dryspells, or very touch starved, or still a virgin, i see nothing wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 01:48 AM
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how so? girls normally never ask guys out or never are the ones to pursue a guy
/r/seduction02/09/23 02:22 AM
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could be one or the other, but i believe that lots of men who are autistic, who are not misogynists, have good intentions, many struggle to get girlfriends, attract women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:33 PM
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yup, thats why most people who are Forever Alone at 30+, are male, that community will always be male dominated
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 08:46 PM
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but women will never walk up to a guy and start an interaction first, or let alone ask a guy out
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:50 PM
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i doubt it, women still normally never approach guys
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:39 AM
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is testosterone the main reason why men do the approaching?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 06:07 AM
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yup there will always be more male wizards than female wizards
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:47 AM
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its like men have to earn sex more than women do
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:45 AM
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did your wife ask you out?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:45 AM
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and most of people and society expect guys to have common sense for knowing what is creepy and weird behavior around women, which is sadly not true for many guys, many guys have to go through a painful trial and error process
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:44 AM
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well its more common for autistic men than for autistic women to have always been alone well into adulthood
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:36 AM
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well this is nothing new
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 02:33 PM
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im guessing he was like 33 or 32 when he had sex for the first time? why am i not surprised that he asked you out, how did you and him meet
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:20 AM
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i wonder how he feels about not having had sex until late in life
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:43 AM
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college sweethearts?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:26 AM
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did you also ask him out first or ask for his number?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:32 AM
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are you saying he was a virgin into his 30s? or older?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:32 AM
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did you ask him out first?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:23 AM
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did you also ask him out first?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:23 AM
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this is nothing new, even if men stopped approaching women in the masses, droves, i doubt it will cause women to start approaching men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:45 PM
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was he still in his 20s when he met you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:35 PM
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and i assume your husband was the one that asked you out, hit on you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:56 PM
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i assume your recent ex was the one that asked you out, hit on you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:55 PM
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i assume your husband was the one that pursued you, asked you out
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:55 PM
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it becomes a red flag once the guy is past a certain age, 25 seems to be the panic age, 30 and above is the point of no return it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:54 PM
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a lot of truth to this
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:04 PM
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ya but i think not having it until late in life can damage a person mentally and emotionally
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 12:48 PM
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i think for many guys, men, who don't have their first girlfriend until late in life, depends on the guy, they feel forever permanently damaged mentally and emotionally, scarred, sad, depressed, and bitter over their lost youth, that their youth was stolen from them
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 09:29 AM
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that movie is an insult to men who haven't had sex by the time they have reached 25
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 09:25 AM
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yup because even after the relationship is formed, the burden of leadership still falls on the mans shoulders
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:16 PM
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have you ever asked a guy out before? or has making a move on a guy ever worked out well for you, did you end up dating him?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:56 AM
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but she made the first move on you intimate wise? i'm referring to that video you sent
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:34 AM
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how long you both been together now? i watched that video, so she sexually escalated on you the first time?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:32 AM
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i assume you are both in your 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:26 AM
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well men are far more likely than women are to reach a certain age and to have never dated, never had a relationship before, most 30+, 40+ and older people than that who have never been with anyone, are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:58 PM
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interesting, where did she approach you? but i assume you had to ask her out
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:25 PM
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i like your mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:24 PM
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well its a fact that socially inept, socially awkward, or socially retarded women are far more likely to have had boyfriends before than men like that to have had girlfriends before
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:24 PM
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as in, a woman that approaches a man, or asks a guy out? oh please, never in a thousand or million years, i don't see that ever changing, men will more than likely for all time, have to do the pursuing
/r/seduction14/06/23 08:46 PM
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well majority of people in the world who reach their later 20s, 30s, 40s and older and have never been with anyone, are mostly male
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:53 PM
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yup, perfect understatement right here, as for all time, women normally don't go after men, nature and reality dictates that men have to go after the woman
/r/seduction01/06/23 12:13 AM
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well some people think that men are approaching a lot less today
/r/seduction01/06/23 12:00 AM
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well even if mean went on a world-wide union strike of no longer approaching women, i highly doubt it will cause women to approach men more
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:35 AM
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i assume your BF was the one who hit on you, asked you out
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:33 AM
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it would be helpful for incels, and make it easier to focus on other areas in life
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:17 AM
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as in, girls that will overlook a guys social awkwardness or social ineptness?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:06 AM
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well womens awkwardness is often seen as cute or adorable, or just people won't care, as in, it won't be perceived negatively, however, a guys awkwardness if seen as creepy or weird or uncomfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:06 AM
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ya, i never got it, i never understood it, i never understood the logic behind why going after what you want is a masculine thing, or part of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 01:15 PM
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ya i never understood the logic behind why the man is meant to go after the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 09:46 AM
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well with autistic women, they normally are at least able to have had boyfriends by a certain age, for lots of autistic men, many of them reach 30+, 40+ and older and have never had girlfriends before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:53 PM
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how do women get rejected when women normally never approach guys or never ask guys out? but ya, i agree with the OP that women can get away with being socially inept, socially awkward or just doing poorly socially and still be able to date, have dating options, but not really the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:05 PM
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well i figure the only way a borderline autistic, socially inept, socially awkward guy can get a girlfriend is if the woman pursues him, if the woman asks him out, but that normally never happens, i assume your boyfriend hit on you, was the one who asked you out
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:59 AM
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well i believe the OP is basically saying, that women can pretty much get away with having poor social skills, being an awkward or boring conversationalist, not understanding social cues, social boundaries, and still have dating options, will never risk being labeled weird or creepy since women don't have to make advances on the other gender like men do, and if women did make advances on men, women will never be labeled as creepy or weird since women won't be seen as a threat in a mans eyes, not…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:57 AM
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its like the modern world has basically exposed or just made it more obvious now, on the difference between men and womens lives in regards to human mating, dating
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 05:47 AM
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because women never have to worry about getting labeled weird or creepy for their social awkwardness or social ineptness like men do, if a woman is like that, she can be seen as cute, adorable, or just people won't care, if a guy is like that, he is seen as creepy, weird, or dangerous, annoying, etc. So you are saying that men have to, or just get to earn what they have, while women don't, that things are simply just given, handed to women on a silver platter? Why does that make a womans life co…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:43 PM
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i don't know of any cases like that, but i have heard of plenty of cases of guys, men, getting kicked out of bars or clubs from bouncers just for approaching women, or gets getting labeled creepy, weird, or stalkerish
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:37 PM
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if that is the case, then why are extreme cases of people who have always been alone, single, never dated, are mostly male? as in, most people who are 30+, 40+ or older, and never been with anyone, are male
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:16 PM
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and the only way he is going to get or have women in his life, its not much different in online dating or dating apps either, men still expected to start the initial interaction
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:33 AM
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technology, and i see plenty of new videos on youtube of people saying that men don't approach women as much anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:09 AM
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it would be interesting to see if it becomes more common for men to approach women a lot less than ever before, to see if that would have an affect on that gender dynamic
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:16 PM
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ya but you can't deny the fact that women who approach men are still in the extreme minority
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:02 PM
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well duh this is nothing new
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:15 PM
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ya thats a huge perspective changer, i think a lot of women enjoy labeling men creepy or weird, stalkerish, just for approaching and making advances on them, not because the men were actually doing that to them, but because it gives those women an ego boost, pride boost, it makes them feel on a power trip, because they know that being a woman, being the more vulnerable gender, they can use that to influence people to get them to do favors for them, to come to their rescue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:56 PM
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and i get annoyed and irritated, enraged whenever people and society say to guys, men, "well don't be creepy or weird", because society sends the message to guys, men, that we are expected to have common sense for knowing what is creepy and what is not creepy when interacting with women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:52 PM
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not just teen years, but early 20s, beginning of 20s as well, seems to be 25 is the panic age button if someone has not dated, never been in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:49 PM
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so men do the choosing and women get chosen?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:29 AM
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a depressing and irritating reminder that, its not unusual, not unheard of for lots of men, to reach the end of their 20s, even 30 and older and still be a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:16 AM
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don't try and observe others to learn from them, ya men have to know or learn all of these behaviors, skills, talk a certain way, behave a certain way, and learn that from guys who are better than them, or men are the only gender that were meant to have a mentor
/r/seduction15/04/23 09:11 PM
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the US should legalize and decriminalize sex work
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 08:09 PM
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ya but men still being expected to approach women, i don't see that ever changing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:44 PM
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and what has always made me angry and enraged about this gender dynamic for all-time, is people and society, will always make arguments and say things like "men have it better because we don't have to wait like women do", the reason why that argument pisses me off, is because thats like saying guys, men, can literally get results with women, get a date, get a GF, anytime they want, which is bullshit, guys normally will have to do tons of approaches, ask lots of women out, until one accepts them,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:01 AM
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i think a lot of women use the creepy and weird label as a way to boost their ego, a pride boost, because since women are kind of the vulnerable of gender, they use that to get people to do favors for them or come to their rescue, gives them a feeling or sense of power, control
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:05 AM
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as in, are there women out there who just label guys weird or creepy just for approaching them, even though the guy didn't do anything wrong? it had more to do with the woman herself and not the guy?
/r/seduction08/04/23 05:39 AM
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well a lot of women will still label a guy weird and creepy just for approaching them, even if the guy does it in a respectful manner
/r/seduction07/04/23 01:25 PM
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well this is obviously nothing new
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:46 PM
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interesting that normally never happens and normally never will, that will no doubt be the norm a full century from now
/r/seduction02/04/23 11:33 PM
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women can be borderline autistic, retarded, and still able to get guys, get men, not as much the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 01:42 PM
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will no doubt be a continued asked question for all-time, ya, a lot of people wonder what makes some guys naturals, as in, these guys, men, seemed to easily or naturally, quickly figure it out very early in life, such as their teenage years, or by the beginning of their 20s at least, on how to successfully interact and court, attract, seduce women right away, they never needed to seek help from a PUA or dating coach
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:04 PM
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i get even more annoyed when people say women need skills to attract a man or to even get guys, since women don't have to do the pursuing or escalating
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 01:39 PM
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ya i like to agree with that, even though people will argue and say that women who are like you described, they will say, women like that are at risk of being used or taken advantage of, however, guys, men, who have either never had a girlfriend before or still a virgin by a certain age, or little dating/sexual experience, a lot of these guys, men, would love to get used by women just to end the single streak, rid the virgin label. Plus, the thing that makes me mad the most about this, is that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 01:37 PM
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gradually, as in, slowly?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 12:46 AM
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you think it will change eventually? a part of me highly doubts it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 05:28 AM
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well if a guy is handsome and good looking, it definetley helps him, but even if a guy is in good shape, is a chad or a stud, but he doesn't do well socially, is socially awkward, socially inept, he will still likely struggle to get laid or get a GF, more than the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 05:26 AM
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ya women are always in the game
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 05:24 AM
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Frank Kermit, who coaches adult male virgins on how to lose their virginity without paying for sex, he says he is not against prostitution, he supports it being legalized and decriminalized, however, at the same time, he doesn't strongly encourage guys to lose their v-card that way: https://www.franktalks.com/blog/should-a-virgin-pay-for-sex
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 03:52 AM
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not really because the man is still expected to be the leader in the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:42 AM
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i would have thought that the primal evolution reason is because, a large part of a womans attractiveness is being of certain age due to fertility reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:29 AM
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even if men are on womens side when it comes to actually want a relationship, because tons of men want a relationship as well, men have to know or learn so many damn skills or behaviors, talk and behave a certain way, act a certain way, have a certain lifestyle, in order to just stand a chance with women, just to get their foot in the door. Women just have to exist and they automatically have men lined up wanting to date them, i will forever, for all-time, get annoyed and irritated when people a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:27 AM
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tons of men actually want relationships as well but they struggle to get into one, and women will never have go through what men struggle with since women have always been on the receiving end of sexual attention
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:18 AM
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but i assume he was the one that asked you out
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:46 AM
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i assume you are in your 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:45 AM
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well i assume you had to approach her, ask her out
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:45 AM
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women still normally are never the ones to ask a guy out, that still normally never happens in todays modern world
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:12 AM
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i assume you are both in your 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:11 AM
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you forgot to mention that men are expected to still begin or start the initial interaction, conversation when first meeting each other, ya thats why it makes me mad and makes me laugh and cringe that there are dating coaches for women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 04:03 AM
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you have asked a guy out before?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:14 PM
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"C'mon...women will never, ever, ever, ever and ever approach a guy! Period! It's not her role to do that despite the progression women have made in society at large; i.e., salary, jobs, positions, women in military, etc...Gentlemen, regardless if a woman is a CEO of company, a government official, 5 star General, department head in a company, women are still women. You can't change that. It's your inner strength, your character, your personality. It's demonstrating you have high value, are self…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:13 PM
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or they would rather pay for sex with a prostitute, escort, sex worker, because they are still at least real human beings
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 04:48 AM
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are they expected to become a reality someday? and they gonna be close to the real thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 04:47 AM
1

well a mans social skills impact his ability to get a girlfriend or attract women, a lot more than the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:23 AM
1

its still very rare for a woman to approach a guy, i don't see that ever becoming normalized
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 07:26 PM
1

you as a woman, did you ask him out first?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 07:22 PM
1

as in, the women asked you out? made the first move on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 06:25 PM
1

i don't see this gender role or status-quo ever changing, i'm sure even a full century from now, or even a full millenium from now, it will still be expected to make to make the first move and be the ones to approach woman, ask them out, initiate things, of course no one can predict the future, but it just doesn't seem possible for this to change
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 06:12 PM
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ya i never liked it either, but women normally never get labeled weird or creepy if they are socially inept, awkward, but guys, men, obvious are
/r/MensRights09/02/23 05:24 AM
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women normally have safety nets from society, men don't, and women normally have an easier time getting sympathy and emotional support than men do
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 08:49 PM
0

well that gender dynamic, if it stopped being so one-sided, no doubt there would be less single people in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 10:00 AM
1

how long you been with him now?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 04:32 AM
2

well i assume every guy you dated, he was the one who pursued you, approached you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 04:32 AM
2

i assume your husband was the one who asked you out, hit on you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 03:59 AM
2

i assume you are in your 20s, and your BF was the one who asked you out, hit on you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 03:58 AM
1

i agree with this video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjYICxQnjls&list=FL8JePbvTAIc8qdN5ue1_wOQ&index=2&t=49s
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 03:58 AM
3

have you as a woman, has asking a guy out, ever worked out well for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 03:55 AM
2

ya i thought i heard some dating coaches say, women are more likely to give "nice guys" a chance, once they have less options and their SMV declines, or as women get older, they are more likely to be the agressors, initiators
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 02:05 AM
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i believe its called the worst oldest profession, it should be legalized and decriminalized, so that way more men don't have to deal with the unfairness of men always having to approach women and do the pursuing, initiating interactions with the opposite sex, burden of courtship
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 02:04 AM
1

ya of course its obviously going to affect men more
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 01:58 AM
1

well men being expected to make the first move all the time never helps
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:39 PM
1

those sadly seem to be the magic age numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:38 PM
1

i don't see this gender role or status quo ever changing, of course i could be wrong though, its just that i hear some people say, the world is slowing changing in this regard, but that just doesn't seem possible, women who ask a guy out or make the first move, approach a guy or are the initiators, will for all eternity be in the extreme minority, just doesn't seem possible
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 09:52 PM
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do you think you making the first move had an effect on getting divorced later? just asking, because it seems a lot of women have the mindset, that relationships are bound for failure, disaster, if a woman is the initiator or asks the guy out
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:48 PM
1

its still very rare for a woman to ask a guy out or for a woman to be the initiator in starting a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:47 PM
1

i assume he was the one who asked you out, hit on you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:42 PM
1

and men obviously have to work through it more than women do
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:42 PM
1

so you lost your v-card in the teenage years like most people do it seems, if it doesn't happen in teenage years, then its at least expected to happen by beginning of ones 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:41 PM
3

well it seems there is a rise in lonely single men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:35 PM
1

ya he caused quite a stir on social media, a lot of dating coaches reacted to him
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 02:44 AM
1

well men being expected to be the initiators will never change, i highly doubt it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:28 PM
1

well when it comes to getting or setting up a date, starting a relationship, then you are definetley right
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 02:41 AM
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effort in dating can be interpreted different ways, but i know what you mean, and i'm sure many guys world-wide think and feel this way, due to how women can basically just let it all happen to them: the 2:45 timestamp, i agree with that part the most: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMFjgWwapj0
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 02:37 AM
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"For a girl, "improving her dating life" would probably just mean making herself more accessible vs any kind of growth. I'm honestly not sure how a girl would become better with men other than just being prettier and maybe learning how to be slightly more engaging" that was a powerful statement i read somewhere, i agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:54 AM
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but what you previously said before this, it reminds me of something else, its a sarcastic mindset, but it seems guys, men, were meant to reap or just experience a lot more side-benefits than women do as a result of improving your dating life
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:39 AM
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yes but in that journey, a guy, man, will have to deal with a lot of awkward interactions, interactions that can easily go horribly wrong, get perceived as weird or creepy, annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:09 PM
2

with your husband, did you also ask him out first?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:41 AM
4

women approaching men, why do i get the feeling that will always be in the extreme minority, i don't see that status-quo ever changing unfortuneately
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:41 AM
1

i assume with your girlfriend, you still had to be the one to ask her out and hit on her, initiate things
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:37 AM
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and for many men, they are like this and its outside of their control, it makes me more mad, because there are lots of guys, men out there, who are normal looking or decent looking, their looks are not a problem, but many of them have still never had a girlfriend before or still a virgin, it makes me mad that nature and reality has to be this way. The reverse is not true as much, ya many guys don't like having to through the journey of getting rid of their social awkwardness, ineptness, because …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:36 AM
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because of men always having been expected to be the ones to approach women or make a move, thats why far more men than women end up reaching a certain age, certain decade, still being a virgin and never having been in a relationship before
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 10:55 PM
1

do research and studies confirm this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 10:51 PM
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probably because women are virtually always chased and sought after, always have options, always get validation in anyway or any form, that most likely most contribute to women being less likely to become like guys such as Elliot Rodger or George Sodini
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:25 AM
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sadly, this must be becoming an epidemic
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:24 AM
1

nevertheless, i highly doubt this will change anything
/r/MensRights18/11/22 12:30 AM
1

ya but women normally never do and never will approach guys
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 02:54 AM
1

yup, why am i not surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 03:39 AM
1

well women who make the first move or ask guys out or are the initiators when starting a relationship, why do i get the feeling those type of women will forever be in the extreme minority
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 03:36 AM
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well i know i'm not the only guy thats always resented how guys have always been expected to pursue and court women or be the initiators
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:59 AM
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yup, sounds like you are just like the typical woman like how women will be typically for all time, who are stubborn and adamant in which they feel, believe, a woman should never pursue a man or go after a man
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:51 AM
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yup, and what makes me even more mad, is that men get old more often than women that the other gender doesn't owe them anything, i don't recall the last time i heard a woman be told "men don't owe you shit, don't owe you anything". Its difficult to blame men for feeling that way, because they feel women are the only gender that are simply given things to them for just existing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:49 AM
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reminds me of a very long statement i read about this industry, was very moved by it, if i could find it, i would post it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:30 AM
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girls normally never approach guys so you are in the extreme minority
/r/seduction01/11/22 04:44 PM
3

ya, kinda makes me have envy and resentment towards his sisters boyfriend because the way he described him, he sounds like a guy who became naturally good with girls at a very early, very young age, like had his first girlfriend, lost his virginity in his teenage years, because the manifesto mentioned that he had been with other girls before his sister. Because not every guy gets to experience having a girlfriend, getting laid in their teenage years, lots of guys enter their 20s as virgins, stil…
/r/seduction30/10/22 11:58 PM
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ya, i wonder why tons of men get labeled weird or creepy or risk making the woman feel uncomfortable just for approaching them, making advances on them, yet its what nature and reality dictates of men to do, that makes me mad, because its another reminder that, men need to understand social cues or social boundaries, have a better understanding of social interactions than women do
/r/seduction30/10/22 11:48 PM
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a huge benefit to the world and society, is that women never risk being labeled weird or creepy in social situations, social interactions, like men do unfortuneately
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:28 AM
1

how long have you been single now?
/r/seduction30/10/22 01:01 AM
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i'm sure tons of guys wish a girl would be the initiator with them for once
/r/seduction29/10/22 12:02 PM
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the part of his manifesto that got me mad the most, was when he expressed anger and rage, jealousy, when he found out his younger sister got a boyfriend and lost her v-card before him(which never happend for him), because its a reminder how the game is different for men and women when it comes to finding, attracting someone
/r/seduction29/10/22 12:00 PM
1

well it wasn't until after 25 for me sadly
/r/seduction25/10/22 06:51 AM
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not that bad, for many years i've heard that 25 seems to be the panic age button, the key age in which people start to panic if they are either still a virgin or never dated, never had a relationship before
/r/seduction25/10/22 06:49 AM
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when was your first long term relationship? i meant i'm not surprised that you had to be the one to hit on your ex, just speaking of my resentment of how its always the guy that has to ask the girl out
/r/seduction25/10/22 04:15 AM
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yup, thats why social advice industry or dating advice industry is getting bigger it seems
/r/seduction24/10/22 05:56 PM
1

yup, things are given to women but not for men
/r/seduction24/10/22 05:50 PM
1

yup because men are the only gender that have to try and fire the first shot
/r/seduction24/10/22 05:03 PM
1

why am i not surprised, and i assume you are in your 20s
/r/seduction24/10/22 05:03 PM
1

well its something i've noticed for many autistic guys
/r/seduction24/10/22 03:59 AM
1

i assume with all your girlfriends, you had to ask them out or pursue them
/r/seduction24/10/22 01:55 AM
1

from what i've noticed, its not unusual and unheard of for a lot of autistic men to be 30 year old virgins or older
/r/seduction24/10/22 01:26 AM
1

i assume with your ex-girlfriend, you had to ask her out, hit on her
/r/seduction24/10/22 01:25 AM
1

understatement
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:58 AM
1

yup, for men its an option or voluntary when it comes to learning how to interact with the oppossite sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 11:43 PM
1

i assume paying for sex, an escort or sex worker is out of the question for you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 11:42 PM
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I like women but women(not all but a majority) are either afraid, jealous or hostile towards men. They put in no energy into forming a relationship. I have to put up all the energy and resources. Women have supplied nothing outside of occasional sex. Nothing. It is sex or nothing. I like sex. It just isn't all I want. Never was. Whoever lied to women needs shot. I want a relationship. I want to share in lifes ups and downs with a committed partner. I don't want a partner who is going jump ship a…
/r/seduction23/10/22 08:53 PM
1

are you attracted to him despite the age difference?
/r/seduction23/10/22 07:48 PM
1

i assume you had to hit on her
/r/seduction23/10/22 07:47 PM
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wouldn't surprise me if men are growing tired and resentful of having to court women and initiate with them
/r/seduction23/10/22 07:46 PM
6

25 seems to be the panic age button
/r/seduction19/10/22 03:40 PM
1

yup a reminder of what will never go away
/r/seduction19/10/22 03:39 PM
1

the times it did work out when you made a move, did you and the guy end up dating each other?
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:50 AM
0

well welcome to the world of being a guy
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:42 AM
0

has making a move on a guy ever worked out well?
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:32 AM
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just being sarcastic, because i know i'm not the only guy in the world thats always resented that its normally on guys shoulders to make a move or do the asking out
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:30 AM
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a girl making a move? last thing to expect
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:23 AM
1

women starting to do what? i don't understand
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:27 AM
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another thing, women never risk having their social awkwardness or social ineptness being dismissed or labeled as being weird or creepy, whenever you hear of someone that gets labeled weird or creepy in social situations or social interactions, its pretty much always, 99 percent of the time, a guy, male.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:24 AM
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well duh this is obvious, this is nothing new, this is the way it has always been, and probably forever will be, hence why the forever alone community will always be male dominated, or just more common for men than for women to reach a certain age or certain decade without ever having dated anyone or had a relationship before
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:08 AM
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well its a win-win for women since they get to avoid rejection and they get to do the rejecting instead of being rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:55 AM
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The increasing lack of in person interactions is causing an increasing lack of social skills and an increase in social anxiety, social awkwardness, social ineptness etc. You can quote unquote "get away" with poor social skills as a woman and still date, be able to get a boyfriend, attract men or have options, but as a guy, you really need to have strong social skills since you're the one doing the pursuing and escalating, initiating everything and you need to be able to make women feel comfortab…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:54 AM
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there is a lot of truth to this
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:41 AM
1

i assume with your ex girlfriend, you had to be the one to pursue her and ask her out
/r/seduction15/10/22 06:34 PM
1

well men always having been and probably forever being expected to make the first move and be the initiators, approach and take the lead, doesn't help autistic men either
/r/seduction15/10/22 06:32 PM
1

well women it seems tend to judge or assesment on the behavior portion a lot more than the other way around, and making changes to yourself or learning how to act or behave in a different way that attracts someone, is usually harder than working on yourself physically
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:25 PM
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why do i get the feeling this status quo will never change, hence why it will always be more common for men than for women to reach 30+ years of age without ever having dated or had a relationship before
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:57 PM
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but was he the one who asked you out? thats just my guess, wouldn't surprise me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:56 PM
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yup, i can believe that, probably because of testosterone, thats why the FA community will always be male dominated or more common for men than for women to remain virgins later than normal, never had a relationship later than normal
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:52 PM
1

getting better how?
/r/seduction10/10/22 11:31 PM
1

tons of people think it is the aging aspect
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:30 PM
3

well men still being expected to approach women, why do i get the feeling that one-sided status-quo will never change either, always make the dating game unfair
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:29 PM
1

its not for everyone, but thats why escorts or sex workers or prostitution exists
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:28 PM
1

well i don't see this ever changing, women always playing a passive role in courtship
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:25 PM
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i am being sarcastic and speaking of my lifelong resentment, and i'm sure tons of other guys in the world feel this way, how they hate that guys are always expected to approach women and make the first move, be the initiators
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:10 PM
1

interesting, a woman that wants to approach guys? that will never become normalized, at least i highly doubt it
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:08 PM
3

a girl is far less likely to be called creepy for approaching a guy at the gym than the other way around
/r/seduction07/10/22 04:34 PM
1

historically, it seems 25 is the panic button age
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 03:21 AM
1

yup because men firing the first shot, that will never change
/r/seduction04/10/22 11:47 PM
1

well its a fact of life that women will never or won't ever get to experience even close to the amount of rejection a man has to deal with if he/she wants to have a successful dating life
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 09:44 AM
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a never ending discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 09:44 AM
1

well i don't see this ever changing and i'm sure tons of people, guys mainly, would like to see this change, but once again, very doubtful, that is, which gender makes the first move or does the approaching, being so one-sided. Should be obvious as to what i'm talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:30 PM
1

a lot of people say that women get things handed to them just for existing but not if you are a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:29 PM
1

i can see the sex worker industry getting bigger, since research and studies confirm that young men are having a lot less sex in the 21st century
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:27 PM
1

pay for sex?
/r/seduction27/09/22 04:17 PM
1

yup, for men its an option or choice, voluntary, not the other way around, i know it will forever make me laugh and cringe when people say women need skills to interact or attract men, i would think the part of men knowing not how to act weird is the most painful part, because then they will get a lot of negative or awkward reactions from people, even offend people without being aware of it, makes them feel like a social retard
/r/seduction27/09/22 04:14 PM
1

"I feel like maybe I'm missing the gene that allows me to understand how to attract women or something." reminds me how i look at that from a different perspective now, it pisses me off a lot, makes me enraging mad when people call it a skillset or learnable skill or something you learn, because then people will say that women need to learn or have skills as well, which makes me laugh and cringe.
/r/seduction27/09/22 04:05 PM
1

not really, even ugly women have options
/r/seduction27/09/22 03:59 PM
1

its sadly not unusual for autistic men to remain virgins later than normal or never had a girlfriend by a certain age/decade, oh well, nature and reality is different for men and women, in the sense that, guys, men, things are not given to them, but for women, often times they are
/r/seduction26/09/22 11:17 PM
1

ya but men being expected to approach women, i don't see that tradition ever changing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:12 AM
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reason why that argument makes me mad and enraged, is because people make it out to be like guys, men, can literally get results with women anytime they want, they will say things like "men have it better because men don't have to wait like women do", which pisses me off, just because a guy takes action, initiative, there is no guarantee the woman is gonna be receptive to his advances
/r/seduction16/09/22 12:43 PM
2

yup, no one is coming to save you if you are a guy, man
/r/seduction16/09/22 02:26 AM
1

i wonder if it will become more common for guys, men, to pay for sex, to visit escorts or sex workers, prostitutes, won't surprise me. Also, women have the luxury of never having their social awkwardness or social ineptness be dismessed or labeled as weird or creepy, but men do unfortuneately, and men it seems are the only gender that need to go on a painful journey of getting rid of those social deficiencies in which they will no doubt get negative or rude, mean, awkward reactions from people
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:32 AM
1

seems to be a red flag more if a guy is like that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:56 PM
1

interesting question
/r/seduction03/09/22 12:08 AM
1

girls approaching you? interesting, that normally never happens and normally never will, some people think the world is slowly changing in this regard, however, i think it will forever be in the extreme minority for women to approach a guy, the burden or damn testosterone will keep it that way
/r/seduction01/09/22 11:49 PM
1

men initiating interactions with women will no doubt still be the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 09:42 AM
1

well is it a good relationship even though it was arranged marriage?
/r/seduction30/08/22 09:33 AM
1

why am i not surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:58 AM
1

a long heated debate
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 03:16 AM
1

i can see it becoming more common for guys, men, to pay for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 03:09 AM
1

i assume lots of them pay for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 02:23 AM
1

i assume he was the one who asked you out
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 02:23 AM
2

well many think unfortuneately, the incel community getting bigger or growing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 02:10 AM
8

ya this is nothing new
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 02:03 AM
1

why do i get the feeling women like this will forever for all eternity be in the extreme minority
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 06:04 PM
1

why do i get the feeling this tradition will never change
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 05:36 PM
0

i would think more guys out there are growing tired and resentful, bitter, of men always still being expected to make the first move, approach women
/r/seduction26/08/22 05:25 PM
1

so first ever relationship at 25 i'm guessing, i assume you had to hit on her, ask her out
/r/seduction25/08/22 02:57 AM
1

i bet you had to hit on her, ask her out
/r/seduction25/08/22 01:29 AM
1

how long were you with your ex? she was your only ever girlfriend?
/r/seduction25/08/22 01:29 AM
1

they will probably just move on unfortuneately
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 08:49 PM
1

sadly its much more common than people think
/r/seduction05/08/22 09:54 PM
1

its a question that will be asked for all eternity
/r/seduction05/08/22 09:38 PM
1

going to assume you never had a girlfriend before
/r/seduction05/08/22 09:35 PM
2

nothing wrong with that, great for the reference experience
/r/seduction01/08/22 08:04 PM
1

well far more men than women remain perpetually single later than normal it seems, its far more common for men than it is for women to go well into their 20s, reach 30s or older and never dated, never had a relationship before or still a virgin, seems is the keyword.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 10:06 PM
1

i assume he was the one who asked you out, hit on you, pursued you
/r/MensRights31/07/22 09:52 PM
1

because nature and reality is meant to be cruel
/r/MensRights31/07/22 09:51 PM
2

wouldn't surprise me
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 09:51 PM
2

you lowered your standards looks-wise with women in order to lose the v-card?
/r/seduction31/07/22 08:33 PM
1

the game is cruel, always will be
/r/seduction26/07/22 12:36 AM
1

i would believe many don't
/r/seduction23/07/22 01:32 PM
1

sadly i'm going to assume you are a virgin as well
/r/seduction23/07/22 01:16 PM
0

you said you lost your virginity to an escort or sex worker right? i hope no regrets about that
/r/seduction23/07/22 01:15 PM
3

i assume you had to ask her out, hit on her
/r/seduction21/07/22 08:28 AM
1

has pursuing a guy or asking a guy out ever worked out well for you? did any of those guys end up as your boyfriend?
/r/seduction19/07/22 03:40 AM
1

i assume every guy you dated, he was the one who pursued you, hit on you or asked you out
/r/seduction18/07/22 10:26 PM
1

ya, besides, the main benefit of paying for sex, is that it doesn't require any game, requires no courtship and no seduction, no social-skills, no leading or leadership, no attraction building involved
/r/seduction13/07/22 01:56 AM
1

i always hated this
/r/seduction11/07/22 08:37 PM
1

if its a sexless relationship, then sure
/r/seduction11/07/22 08:28 PM
1

sex work should be legalized in the US
/r/seduction11/07/22 08:24 PM
1

the game has always been brutal and cruel
/r/seduction11/07/22 08:16 PM
1

i see why not
/r/seduction11/07/22 08:06 PM
1

well men always have the burden of having to do all the fuckin work in social interactions between men and women, and yet people and society say men are not supposed to view it as a chore or burden
/r/seduction11/07/22 07:23 PM
1

were you a late bloomer in dating? because a lot of guys with autism are like that
/r/seduction11/07/22 07:20 PM
1

ya i get annoyed when people say us guys are supposed to embrace that role, i also get very mad and pissed off when people and society say comments such as, guys have it better because we don't have to wait, we don't have to wait around like women do, because thats like saying guys, men, can literally get results with women anytime they want, thats like saying guys, men, can literally get a girl into their lives anytime they want, which i'm happy to disagree with, because its not like the first …
/r/seduction11/07/22 06:21 AM
1

i will forever hate and resent taking the lead until the day i die, i hate how thats expected of men so damn much, it fills me with dark, violent thoughts at times, it makes me feel like wanting to beat someone up to release my anger and rage over the unfairness of what guys, men have to do if they want to be successful with women. It makes me think this of women, i have no sympathy for women who are victims of domestic violence, why should they get sympathy when they don't have to lift a finger…
/r/seduction11/07/22 03:18 AM
1

another depressing reminder
/r/ExRedPill10/07/22 11:56 PM
1

ya i get annoye when people and society say women need skills to attract or get a guy, it makes me laugh and cringe
/r/seduction10/07/22 11:55 PM
2

ya, why do i get the feeling that will forever, for all eternity, be the expectation of guys, men, i'd say there is a better chance of Dinosaurs coming back to life than there is of women approaching men more often, or just women approaching men just as much as men approach women
/r/seduction10/07/22 11:54 PM
3

well if you are a guy, then yes its what men have always been and probably forever will be expected to do if they want to have a girlfriend or get laid
/r/seduction10/07/22 11:51 PM
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you think is becoming more common for guys, men, to enter their 20s and 30s as virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:14 PM
1

can't speak for everyguy
/r/seduction03/07/22 09:10 PM
1

well pregnancy is a big one
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:29 AM
1

ya, sometimes i like to think that women are the only gender that are owed or entitled to dates, a sexual relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:27 PM
1

maybe this might force the US to finally legalize and decriminalize prostitution, sex work, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:16 PM
1

ya, since it seems majority of people in the world who become 30 and 40 year old virgins, are male
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:05 PM
1

yup, very valid points, even though women are always far less at risk than men are at reaching a certain age and still being a virgin or never having had a relationship before
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:05 PM
1

ya good question, since the majority of people in the world who go deep or late into adulthood without ever having dated anyone, never had a relationship or still a virgin, are mostly male
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:59 PM
1

well no doubt asking someone out, will forever be on the guys shoulders
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:48 PM
1

when you say risk, are you referring to legal trouble or the risk of STD's? or both?
/r/seduction01/07/22 10:08 PM
1

so i assume going to an escort or sex worker, paying for sex, is something you would never consider?
/r/seduction01/07/22 09:55 PM
1

so 18 or 19 then, those are still common ages for people to lose the v-card, for quite a long time, i've heard that 25 seems to be the panic button age number, i assume going to an escort or sex worker is out of the question for you, because a lot of guys do that to either lose the v-card, or just to break a long dryspell
/r/seduction01/07/22 09:39 PM
1

you lost your virginity in high school?
/r/seduction01/07/22 09:02 PM
1

well with your ex-girlfriend, you no doubt had to hit on her and ask her out
/r/seduction01/07/22 03:10 PM
1

well ya, building or sparking the attraction has always fallen on the mans shoulders
/r/seduction01/07/22 03:09 PM
1

are you a virgin or been on a long dryspell?
/r/seduction01/07/22 03:08 PM
1

so you think men have the better end of the stick in the human mating game? when it seems that there are always far more male wizards in the world than female wizards
/r/seduction27/06/22 08:12 PM
1

so the experience in Tijuana was good, enjoyable?
/r/seduction27/06/22 07:16 PM
1

i get even more resentful when people and society still think men have the better end of the stick
/r/seduction27/06/22 01:16 PM
1

how or why does taking the lead show the woman that the man can protect her?
/r/seduction27/06/22 01:15 PM
1

how was the experience paying for sex?
/r/seduction27/06/22 01:13 PM
1

huh?
/r/seduction26/06/22 10:49 PM
1

high school and college age couples, or just teen couples and early 20s couples, couples in the 18-25 age ranger especially, i didn't get laid until i was 28
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:30 PM
1

i envy couples of a certain age range, age bracket, since i didn't get to date during those years
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:17 PM
1

i assume both of you are under 25
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:04 PM
1

i assume you are both in your 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:59 PM
1

was she the one who asked you out?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:30 PM
1

so i assume you haven't had much of a dating life
/r/seduction26/06/22 06:41 PM
1

well better than many guys, many guys have reached your age and still never had a girlfriend, how long was your longest relationship?
/r/seduction23/06/22 01:37 AM
1

sadly, not unusual for guys to go well into their 20s or older and never dated anyone
/r/seduction22/06/22 10:49 PM
1

sadly, this unfair status quo will never change, guys always being expected to approach
/r/seduction22/06/22 10:48 PM
1

well i believe its only normal or natural for guys, men, to feel like its work if they suck at it or sadly mess up, screw up interactions
/r/seduction22/06/22 10:27 PM
1

how long have you been single now?
/r/seduction22/06/22 10:26 PM
1

how long have you and him been together now? shocked you would ask this question, since girls are normally allowed to be passive
/r/seduction17/06/22 06:37 PM
1

it reminds me, there is this quote by Zan Perrion that i'm not a fan of, it kind of makes me mad, but i know its something that will never change, and its a reminder how i view interactions between men and women from a different mindset, perspective now
/r/seduction15/06/22 08:05 PM
1

i agree with ecto, i get even more mad and enraged when people and society say that women need skills to attract a guy or how to get a boyfriend, it makes me laugh and cringe, because it doesn't make sense, how do women need to learn when they don't have to initiate or escalate anything, everything simply "just happens" for the woman, if you get what i'm saying. I also get mad when people and society still think men have the better end of the stick, especially when its a fact that far more men t…
/r/seduction13/06/22 09:25 PM
1

ya men go through more growth than women do
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:49 PM
2

ya, because guys, men, can easily unfortuneately be labeled creepy or making women uncomfortable just for making advances on them, hitting on them, even though guys, men, are just doing what nature, intended of guys, men. It makes me resentful because, the room for error for messing up or screwing up an interaction, making the opposite sex uncomfortable, is much bigger for men than it is for women
/r/seduction10/06/22 11:27 PM
1

well even if a lot of women find it cute if a guy is shy to approach them, that basically means nothing since those guys still normally end up in the friend zone, since women normally will never ask a guy out
/r/seduction10/06/22 10:49 PM
2

interesting that she was the one who approached
/r/seduction10/06/22 10:44 PM
1

eye contact is she giving?
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:09 PM
1

25 seems to be the starting age number
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:28 AM
2

yup, men need to understand social cues or social dynamics more than women do
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:15 AM
0

scared to hit on guys you like? your a girl, your not expected to hit on guys, they do that for you
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:11 AM
1

ya, it sucks that men can easily make a woman feel uncomfortable or creeped out even if those guys, men, were never trying to hurt anyone, and the same time, its a risk that always happens since men approaching women will likely forever remain the status-quo
/r/seduction07/06/22 09:03 AM
2

thats probably the main reason what i resent about guys always being expected to approach, is the risk of being labeled creepy or making the woman uncomfortable
/r/seduction07/06/22 01:40 AM
1

why is it wrong for a guy to apologize to a girl if he made her uncomfortable?
/r/seduction07/06/22 01:39 AM
1

i like to feel women choose both when sex happens or when a relationship happens normally, since men are normally still the ones to have to make advances towards a woman or ask her out first, so that puts the woman in the position of accepting or declining
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 09:33 PM
1

oh please, baloney, men will never get a break from this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:26 AM
1

reminds me of a quote that made me mad from the alabaster girl, and some other statement about vikings
/r/seduction06/06/22 06:24 AM
1

but i assume you had to ask her out
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:05 AM
1

when asking the dad for permission, that was before dating existed? dating is kinda a modern thing then?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:04 AM
1

whats the origin behind men having to court women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:03 AM
1

ya because men initiating an interaction will never change
/r/seduction06/06/22 06:03 AM
1

as in, a small percentage of men are having sex with all the women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:01 AM
1

don't know if you would consider paying for sex, as in, with an escort, sex worker, if you remain a virgin longer
/r/seduction05/06/22 02:59 AM
1

yup, they say men have the burden of performance
/r/seduction01/06/22 01:27 PM
1

what is your disorder or condition?
/r/seduction01/06/22 01:26 PM
1

well girls normally never approach guys, you are in the extreme minority of guys
/r/seduction31/05/22 09:34 AM
2

in another comment, i feel if the governments of the world or societies everywhere placed more importance on this, i feel it could prevent a lot more mass shooting incidents, it would reduce them a lot, because sadly, the motives for a lot of these perpetrators, is they feel lonely and don't fit in with anyone, they feel like a social outcast, socially isolated, etc.
/r/seduction29/05/22 09:19 PM
1

and it naturally makes sense that men need to be taught this stuff more than women do since men have always had and likely always will have the burden of performance, being expected to open their mouth first in front of a woman if you get what i'm saying
/r/seduction29/05/22 09:10 PM
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it would reduce the suicide rates a lot worldwide, it can possibly prevent schoot shootings or mass shooting incidents, because the motives behind a lot of those perpetrators, is that they struggled socially, they felt socially isolated, etc.
/r/seduction29/05/22 08:25 PM
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and men need it more than women do, because the way i see it, the person who is always expected to open their mouth first and lead the interaction, needs a hell of a lot more social-skills training than the person who responds and follows
/r/seduction29/05/22 08:16 PM
1

reminds me how i look at this from a different perspective now, and i know i get annoyed, it makes me laugh and cringe when people say women need to learn how to date or how to get a boyfriend, attract men
/r/seduction29/05/22 05:40 PM
1

well then if a guy doesn't learn the proper social skills in school growing up, he must have done something wrong then
/r/seduction29/05/22 02:12 AM
1

ummmm but i figure it would be valuable if people were properly instructed on how to socialize with others and build relationships with others, there is an art to it
/r/seduction29/05/22 01:52 AM
1

well a lot of dating coaches are scam, according to many clients who sought help from them, ya, it reminds me i also get very annoyed when people say women need skills to meet or attract, get a guy as well, it makes me cringe.
/r/seduction29/05/22 01:49 AM
0

ya but i believe its possible that people can be correctly taught on how to succeed socially, improve their social skills correctly
/r/seduction29/05/22 01:48 AM
1

people have conflicting views on this
/r/seduction23/05/22 03:16 AM
1

well men have always had to work harder to get pussy than women need to work to get dick
/r/seduction20/05/22 04:58 PM
1

i know this is not for everyone, but lots of guys lose their v-card to an escort or sex worker
/r/seduction20/05/22 04:56 PM
1

she has a kid from a previous relationship?
/r/seduction20/05/22 04:54 PM
1

so a lot of times, when a guy gets labeled creepy by women, a lot of times, its the woman herself, not the guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 01:10 PM
2

well men always having been expected to pursue and do the approaching, is the main difference between how men and women are different when it comes to being able to get a date or into a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:08 PM
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well i figure a lot of people in the world, society, are too hard or too harsh on guys, men, who get labeled creepy when interacting with women, a lot of these guys, men, were never trying to hurt anyone, sadly, unfortuneately, so many guys, men, they just sadly never learned what makes a guy creepy or weird around women when interacting with them in their teenage/adolescent years, they just never learned, besides, most guys are not given an instructional manual as to what makes a guy creepy or …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:26 PM
1

ya reminds me of a long statement that changed my mindset and perspective on talking to women, interactions between men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 05:33 PM
1

i'm sure tons of other guys feel this way, i relate to the most your previous post on here, its guys, men, getting thrown negative labeles by people and society, women included, just for doing their role what nature or reality, dictates of them, men having to pursue or approach women. As in, lots of guys, men, get labeled creepy or weird, sometimes even stalkerish just for making advances on a woman, and whats even more cruel about this, is that that reverse is never true, tons of women are cree…
/r/seduction18/05/22 03:27 PM
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ya, thats probably the main thing i always resented about men having to approach, men getting thrown negative labels for making advances on women by the women, and yet women expect men to approach them, its like damned if you do, damned if you don't
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:25 PM
1

ya, its just us humans, we are not here just to solely reproduce, we don't have sex just for solely reproducing, that makes us different from many other animals
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:24 PM
2

ya, why do so many women get creeped out or weirded out by male attention and yet still expect guys to approach them, hit on them or make advances then? for many guys, men, its like damned if you do, damned if you don't
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:19 PM
1

ya, so men in their 30s have more SMV value than women in their 30s i'm guessing
/r/seduction18/05/22 03:00 PM
1

reminds me of a popular image meme i see go around when it comes to this, i know i'm not the only one annoyed or irritated by it
/r/seduction17/05/22 04:44 PM
2

i figure thats why more men out there than are willing to admit, end up paying for sex, it requires no game and no courtship, no social skills, etc.
/r/seduction17/05/22 03:50 AM
1

i assume going to an escort or sex worker is out of the question for you
/r/seduction17/05/22 03:44 AM
1

well women don't have to pursue like men do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:06 PM
1

its not for everyone, but there are escorts, sex workers, sadly its illegal in most of the US except for certain areas or regions of Nevada
/r/seduction16/05/22 05:37 PM
2

what type of crime did you committ?
/r/seduction16/05/22 05:34 PM
1

unfortuneately, tons of guys in the world end up going later into their 20s or older and still never had a girlfriend before, cases like that are definetley not unheard of
/r/seduction14/05/22 06:33 PM
1

lots of people view dating coaches or pick up coaches as scam
/r/seduction14/05/22 06:32 PM
1

make them uncomfortable as in how? its impossible for a woman to be labeled creepy by a guy
/r/seduction13/05/22 07:06 PM
1

its a debate and topic of discussion that will sadly never die
/r/seduction13/05/22 03:01 AM
1

how does it give the guy control? i never understood
/r/seduction10/05/22 05:20 AM
1

i hate taking the lead with a huge fuckin' passion, i hate it, gosh, it just makes me get very mad, it makes me really pissed off
/r/seduction09/05/22 11:21 AM
1

ya, its just that a woman being pretty, doesn't really take effort or its just a different type of effort in what a man has to go through in terms of a social growth, transformation that makes him get women.
/r/seduction09/05/22 11:20 AM
1

if you feel insecure about being a virgin at your age, its much more common than we think for people to enter their 20s as virgins, 25 seems to be the age when people panic the most
/r/seduction09/05/22 07:57 AM
1

an unexpected question that you would never hear about a woman wanting to ask or try to get advice, what was negative about your ex-boyfriend that you mention?
/r/seduction09/05/22 07:47 AM
1

so i assume he was the one who hit on you or asked you out
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:22 PM
1

since he is a passive type, i wonder, were you the one who made the first move and asked him out first?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:24 AM
1

i highly doubt this will ever change or become more common, i extremely doubt it, but women approaching men far more often, women asking men out more often. Or, social-skills, conversation-skills being taught in school in our teenage years, adolescent years, or just social dynamics, how to understand social cues and social boundaries with people, just be able to successfully connect with others
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:20 AM
2

well women are still normally passive in the beginning
/r/seduction07/05/22 05:04 AM
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can't stand cases like this
/r/RPChristians06/05/22 09:44 AM
1

ya, i never understood the comments when people and society say about guys, men, having it better by saying "guys don't have to wait like girls do or do the waiting around like girls do", i never got it, because its not like a guy can literally attract a girl or get a girl into his life literally anytime he wants, just because he approaches or asks a girl out, theres no guarantee she will say yes, a guy will still have the play the numbers game, and even high value, high status men, i still thin…
/r/seduction06/05/22 01:34 AM
1

yup, reminds me how my mindset and perspective towards this gender role or status-quo has changed, one thing i've always hated and resented, is how lots of people and society, they say things like "men have it better because we don't have to wait like women do, we don't have to do the waiting", the reason why comments like that piss me off, is because, thats like saying guys, men, can literally get results with women anytime they want, get a woman or get women into their lives anytime we want. W…
/r/seduction06/05/22 01:14 AM
1

i bet you had to hit on her
/r/seduction06/05/22 01:03 AM
1

a woman wanting to make advances towards a guy? interesting, normally never happens and normally never will, why do i get the feeling that girls asking guys out will never become normalized
/r/seduction04/05/22 08:26 PM
2

well you can't speak for every guy
/r/seduction04/05/22 08:25 PM
1

oh please, i do agree with you but i extremely doubt this status-quo will ever change or go away, this burden will forever be one-sided
/r/seduction04/05/22 08:22 PM
1

was the child unplanned?
/r/seduction04/05/22 08:02 PM
1

it sounds like, a guy can be handsome and good looking, or his looks are not a problem for him at all, but if he is socially awkward or his social skills are not that good, the way he interacts, behaves in social situations, he will still struggle to get laid or get a girlfriend it seems, keyword seems
/r/seduction04/05/22 08:01 PM
1

ya because i've heard of some guys ending up with asexual girlfriends
/r/seduction01/05/22 09:40 PM
1

what do you mean you didn't do physical activities together?
/r/seduction01/05/22 09:19 PM
1

interesting, i assume you figured out how to attract girls quite early in life
/r/seduction01/05/22 09:02 PM
1

i assume you are in your 20s
/r/seduction01/05/22 09:00 PM
1

for a lot of guys, they can be great for the reference experience, practice, and many people say that using girls and that isn't fair for the girls, well newsflash, life isn't fair, and the game isn't fair either, and since the game has always been one sided, this will benefit guys more than women
/r/seduction29/04/22 09:43 AM
1

25 is when it seems to become a breaking point
/r/seduction29/04/22 09:32 AM
2

ya, some guys have a certain upbringing, or just something goes wrong in some guys teenage years, formative years, that causes them to not learn or miss out on the key flirting behaviors or social skills that guys need in order to have success with women, attracting women, and then it later causes a snowball effect which causes guys to still not know how to successfully interact with girls well into their 20s, 30s and more. Thats why a lot of guys wonder what makes some guys naturals
/r/seduction29/04/22 09:28 AM
2

in order for a guy to be playful in his interactions, does that mean the guy has to playfully make fun of the woman, which means teasing her?
/r/seduction28/04/22 08:42 AM
1

i was being sarcastic and speaking of my lifelong hatred of how guys, men, are normally always expected to make the first move and court women or be the initiators, ask them out first, etc.
/r/seduction28/04/22 01:41 AM
1

well anyway, i hope no regrets for you about paying for sex, i would think more guys, more men out there do that than are willing to admit or disclose, so overall, no regrets about having been with escorts?
/r/seduction27/04/22 05:33 PM
1

interesting that a girl would ask for advice in a section of reddit like this
/r/seduction27/04/22 09:47 AM
1

well i assume every girlfriend you had, you had to be the one to hit on her or approach her, ask her out, ya i've heard some people say, women have no choice but to be in the game, women are forced to be in the game from the moment they hit puberty whether they want to be in it or not
/r/seduction26/04/22 09:21 AM
1

well men approaching women i doubt will ever change, so sadly there is no other way if a guy wants to get or have women or a woman in his life, i never liked it but the game is meant to be brutal and cold
/r/seduction26/04/22 04:45 AM
2

yup, building or sparking, igniting the attraction, is the mans role it seems, i feel the reason why women don't need to know or learn how to attract a man, or be the ones to build or ignite the attraction with a man, is because it seems for the most part, men are instantly attracted to women straight from the get go, from the moment they see her
/r/seduction26/04/22 04:44 AM
1

ya, keyword is seems, that men need to focus more on the behavorial aspect than women do it seems
/r/seduction26/04/22 04:43 AM
1

ya, a lot of guys simply just don't know what it is that makes their approach creepy or weird, awkward, for a lot of guys, it feels depressing having to seek help from a dating coach or PUA
/r/seduction25/04/22 10:18 PM
1

ya, leading never came natural or innate for me
/r/seduction24/04/22 07:45 PM
1

ya, women have normally never done anything to make a relationship happen or start with a guy
/r/seduction24/04/22 07:32 PM
2

i figure any womans vagina is worth way more than even a high status, high value mans dick as well
/r/seduction24/04/22 02:40 AM
1

ya i've heard that because starting in a guys childhood, it doesn't help at all that the teachers, staff in elementary school, are almost entirely women, so my guess is, that has a major effect on a guys masculinity development, leadership development, he basically practices being a follower his whole life i'm guessing
/r/seduction24/04/22 02:36 AM
1

i never understood why its a freedom
/r/seduction24/04/22 02:33 AM
0

ya, for guys, men, its a process to become those type of men, for women being pretty and beautiful, its not really a trial and error process for them to become that way, for guys, men, its an option or choice if they want to know or learn how to attract women, not the other way around though.
/r/seduction24/04/22 02:32 AM
1

and the way it looks like, seems is the keyword, the man has to talk or converse, behave a certain way when talking to people, women, in social situations, that makes or breaks his success with women a lot more than the other way around it seems, as i saw another guy post, it seems that a mans social-skills, social behaviors, impact his ability to attract women or to get laid a lot more than the other way around it seems. It doesn't help that i have autism, so of course that gives me a good reas…
/r/seduction24/04/22 01:11 AM
1

ya, i do hate and resent the role or expectations of guys, men, in dating/relationships, being able to attract someone, there are times i hate and resent it so damn much, it fills me with dark thoughts at times, and when people say comments to guys, men, such as: "don't be a pussy, or your a pussy, man up, grow a pair or be a man", it literally makes me feel like wanting to sometimes beat them up to a bloody pulp, make them squeal like a puppy as i break their neck.
/r/seduction24/04/22 12:48 AM
2

thats why i sometimes envy male lions, or other species of animals, in their mating dance or courtship process, it involves testosterone for them and just more point blank, straight to the point with them compared to humans
/r/seduction24/04/22 12:36 AM
1

ya, i just don't know or understand why the guy, man, or just men, are supposed to enjoy and embrace this role, see it as a joy
/r/seduction24/04/22 12:16 AM
1

ya, it reminds me of a long post i read somewhere about interactions between men and women, i thought the guy hit the nail on the head, it was kind of a rant, but it changed my perspective on talking to women, ya i get very annoyed when people say that women need to learn how to date or attract men, have skills for that, which never makes sense for me and tons of other people, i don't get why women would need to learn skills or learn how to date or get a way when they don't have to initiate/esca…
/r/seduction24/04/22 12:13 AM
1

how does testosterone do that? like lets say if someone injects testosterone in a lab rat, it will make the rat want to take more risks, the rat will be more aggressive?
/r/seduction23/04/22 11:54 PM
-1

why would a woman post a question in this forum, when she doesn't have to be the one to approach or take the lead in anything?
/r/seduction23/04/22 08:22 PM
1

ya i never liked it either man, reminds me of a comment, that i will never forget, that pissed me off so much, because thats why i picked my username, i always hated and resented my position, my role as a human male, in the human mating game, men always having to take the lead and approach women, be the initiator, and this what you explained, is the main role reason why. The comment that enraged me or pissed me off, was this: "Boo fucking hoo. We also don't have to go through child birth and we'…
/r/seduction23/04/22 08:08 PM
1

ya but the guy always has to approach, men walking up to women and opening their mouth, that burden or onus will never change, at least i highly doubt it, and so often times, i feel men don't deserve to be labeled creepy because their just doing their role as what nature or evolution dictates of them
/r/seduction23/04/22 07:59 PM
1

a lot of guys, men, just don't know what it means to be creepy, no one taught them how, they just never learned, and ya, its reminder how my mindset and perspective towards dating has changed over the years, its men have to learn or they get nothing, women don't need to learn because they are the ones that get pursued, hit on, and i get even more enraged or annoyed when people say that women need skills to attract a man
/r/seduction23/04/22 07:48 PM
3

sounds like your a guy who thinks men have the better end of the stick
/r/seduction23/04/22 05:02 PM
1

posts like this make me mad, because it reminds me that a guys social skills impact his ability to attract women or to get a girlfriend a lot more than the other way around it seems
/r/seduction23/04/22 05:20 AM
1

virginity it just a social construct, so if you put it that way in your perspective, your no longer a virgin in the physical sense, but you feel like one mentally and emotionally? well hopefully the paid sex was still enjoyable
/r/seduction19/04/22 04:38 AM
1

oh ok, so he was a guy, male
/r/seduction19/04/22 02:34 AM
1

you said "He", don't you mean "She"?
/r/seduction19/04/22 02:31 AM
1

well since you had a girlfriend very young, a lot of guys with autism will wonder how you got her
/r/seduction19/04/22 02:27 AM
1

lots of guys don't get a date until well into their 20s or later, you were an early bloomer, are you sure you have autism?
/r/seduction19/04/22 02:25 AM
1

was this in your teens? just asking, because it seems to either be common or not unheard for a lot of guys with autism, to never have a girlfriend or remain a virgin later than normal, when did that 5 year relationship happen or start?
/r/seduction19/04/22 02:21 AM
1

so you have paid for sex before?
/r/seduction19/04/22 02:20 AM
1

despite paying for sex, you still feel like a virgin? at the end of the day, its still sex
/r/seduction19/04/22 02:19 AM
2

don't know if that also applies to women since women don't have to be the ones to pursue or approach, ask a guy out or initiate with a guy
/r/seduction19/04/22 02:12 AM
1

yup, the world doesn't care if a guy never gets laid, but it does care for women though
/r/seduction19/04/22 02:07 AM
1

so in other words, more guys out there in the world have been labeled creepy by women even though those guys, men, never meant any harm towards the woman, never wanted to hurt her? no guy, man, is 100 percent creep proof?
/r/seduction19/04/22 02:07 AM
1

oh well, to each their own, the thought of paying for sex disgusts you?
/r/seduction18/04/22 06:17 AM
0

i'm going to assume you haven't had much of a dating life then
/r/seduction18/04/22 02:10 AM
1

well it requires no courtship, no social skills, no game
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 09:10 PM
1

i assume losing the v-card to an escort or sex worker is out of the question for you
/r/seduction17/04/22 04:53 AM
1

game requires much more of men
/r/seduction17/04/22 04:53 AM
1

losing the v-card to an escort or sex worker works out well for many guys
/r/seduction13/04/22 04:24 PM
1

ya but men being expected to make the first move or approach women, ask them out first, why do i get the feeling that will never change
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 12:26 AM
1

interesting, women normally never take the lead with a guy, even if they like him or are really attracted to him
/r/seduction08/04/22 05:32 PM
1

thats why there is an entire dating coach or pua industry that only seems to be growing or expanding
/r/seduction07/04/22 02:41 AM
1

ya it may not help guys get better with women in terms of attracting them, but it can possibly help them improve their sexual confidence or sexual skills in bed, in the bedroom, or guys who are touch-starved
/r/seduction07/04/22 02:40 AM
2

well duh, thats an understatement, women have always played a passive role in seduction or human mating, forming relationships
/r/seduction07/04/22 02:33 AM
1

i would believe so
/r/seduction07/04/22 12:27 AM
1

how long were you with your ex?
/r/seduction05/04/22 11:12 PM
2

are you sad or depressed over not having lost your virginity late in life? just asking because i know that happens to a lot of people who don't have sex until late in life
/r/seduction05/04/22 09:46 PM
1

25 from what i've noticed, seems to be the starting age number in which people are viewed by society for being in the extreme minority for never having had sex yet
/r/seduction05/04/22 09:38 PM
1

lost virginity at 26 or 27?
/r/seduction05/04/22 09:38 PM
2

early 20s or beginning of 20s, lots of guys are still virgins around this age, if you get older and still a virgin, i don't know if losing the v-card to an escort or sex worker is out of the question for you
/r/seduction03/04/22 06:57 PM
2

be glad that as a woman, the burden of taking the lead doesn't fall on your shoulders
/r/seduction03/04/22 06:54 PM
1

if it was legal, would you do it?
/r/seduction02/04/22 05:17 PM
1

i believe it will affect men more than women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 03:33 AM
1

well it works out well for many guys
/r/seduction02/04/22 03:28 AM
1

sounds like you have done a lot better than many other autistic guys when it comes to dating
/r/seduction01/04/22 06:23 PM
1

so men want vagina more than women want dick?
/r/seduction01/04/22 12:47 AM
1

"In the animal kingdom, when a male lion comes of age, he begins to make his move to acquire a female lion to breed with. If he’s unsuccessful with one group of females, he goes to another area and meets some more. Unlike us human males, a male lion has to fight and sometimes kill another lion to take over the pack and territory so he can then breed with the female (s). As a human man, you simply have to walk over and talk to women and if you’re able to get her attracted by displaying confidence…
/r/seduction30/03/22 03:35 AM
1

well i assume it was better than not sex at all
/r/seduction29/03/22 09:18 PM
1

how come? hopefully the sex was still enjoyable
/r/seduction29/03/22 07:21 PM
1

well there is an escort client section on reddit, that gives helpful advice on how to avoid the legal trouble, and in Vegas, Nevada, i think its easier to avoid the legal trouble there
/r/seduction29/03/22 04:06 AM
1

21 and never been kissed can definetley feel too late for that, but for sex not as much, more people enter their 20s as virgins than we think, well early 20s especially, 25 seems to be when people panic the most, its not for everyone but plenty of guys have no regrets losing their v-card to a sex worker or escort
/r/seduction29/03/22 03:13 AM
2

cool, lots of guys don't get laid for the first time until later in their 20s or more sadly
/r/seduction29/03/22 12:17 AM
2

i assume you are in your early 20s
/r/seduction29/03/22 12:13 AM
1

i know this is not for everyone, but going to an escort or sex worker has worked out well for many guys
/r/seduction29/03/22 12:11 AM
2

well its how sex was meant to be
/r/seduction29/03/22 12:09 AM
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"Definitely, women are attracted by confidence (which is largely soail skills) and status in social hierarchies and not much else (they want to protect their limited offspring). So if you're an average or below average looking guy, there is much hope with high level social skills skills and confidence. Us men aren't as worried about all that stuff. We mainly focus on a woman's fertility (ie youth and beauty) as we can hypothetically father hundreds of children Ask 10 male friends who they would …
/r/seduction29/03/22 12:08 AM
1

the guy in the first link, i could have sworn i have seen him somewhere before, on a few youtube videos, that guy is from Brazil right?
/r/seduction22/03/22 08:23 PM
1

well yes they are obviously, normally, how often do you hear of heterosexual couples being together as a result of the woman asking the guy out or the woman making the first move, approaching a guy? that still normally never happens despite how modern the world has become, why do i get the feeling that will forever be rare of women to do
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 11:24 PM
1

what if they don't grow up with a single mom? could it be how their Dad raised them as well? or the type of friends they had growing up in their adolescent years?
/r/seduction20/03/22 07:00 PM
1

a lot of guys wonder what makes some guys naturals or just what makes them seem to learn it easily or figure it out easily in their teenage years, or that getting a girlfriend, talking to girls the right away, how they figured it out very early in life without having to seek help from a dating coach or PUA
/r/seduction19/03/22 04:47 PM
1

oh please, this onus will never change in regards to being on guys shoulders
/r/seduction17/03/22 06:11 PM
1

still seems very rare for a woman to approach a guy or make a move on a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 06:01 PM
1

interesting, still seems rare for a woman to be the initiator in starting a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 06:00 PM
1

which is why prostitution or escorts, sex workers should be legalized in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:59 PM
1

i like to believe men are assessed on that more than women are it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:59 PM
1

well social awkwardness has always been and always will affect men and womens dating lives differently
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:57 PM
1

will probably forever be rare
/r/seduction16/03/22 02:34 PM
1

more common than you think sadly
/r/seduction16/03/22 02:21 PM
1

women like this will always be in the extreme minority
/r/seduction13/03/22 04:02 PM
1

i went through this as well man, sometimes i feel life is not worth living you don't have a normal youth, social progression
/r/seduction13/03/22 03:59 PM
1

no regrets about having sex with an escort or sex worker? did it improve your mood or self-esteem or just make you feel better in anyway?
/r/seduction11/03/22 03:31 AM
1

i would believe plenty of guys have no regrets
/r/seduction10/03/22 04:40 AM
1

interesting, the last thing you would expect a girl to do, this will more than likely forever be rare
/r/seduction10/03/22 04:39 AM
1

never had any women express interest in you your whole life?
/r/ExRedPill10/03/22 04:35 AM
1

oh, are you a gay man? or a heterosexual woman who didn't have her first boyfriend until 28?
/r/seduction06/03/22 05:19 PM
1

well ya, women will always play a passive role, i doubt that will ever change
/r/seduction05/03/22 02:39 PM
1

for many people, its good for the relationship practice and experience
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:46 PM
2

are you saying you didn't have your first girlfriend until 28?
/r/seduction04/03/22 06:09 PM
1

its a reminder that guys, men, need to have a much better understanding of social dynamics or social skills, social boundaries, than women do, its long and difficult to explain, but thats how i feel
/r/seduction04/03/22 05:50 PM
1

well some aspects of evolutionary biology remain the same and probably always will, as in, guys approach girls or ask them out first
/r/seduction03/03/22 12:33 AM
3

what has? women making the first move or asking guys out? women being the initiators?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 10:39 AM
3

and women asking men out will probably always be rare, in the extreme minority, i don't see it ever becoming more common
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:11 AM
2

did you ask him out first?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:10 AM
1

unfortuneately, why do i get the feeling that women making the first move or asking guys out, being the initiators will forever be rare, in the extreme minority, i'm talking in terms of starting the relationship, meeting someone, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:06 PM
5

well i would think most of us guys are never taught how to successfully talk to and interact with girls growing up, or were we supposed to be taught by male role models among our friends, social circle or family members
/r/seduction01/03/22 10:37 PM
2

a lot of those people are socially inept or socially awkward beyond their control i imagine, assume
/r/seduction28/02/22 05:50 PM
2

so you are still able to attract women in their 20s despite being in your 40s?
/r/seduction28/02/22 05:50 PM
0

the game is brutal
/r/seduction25/02/22 04:10 AM
1

what type of deformity?
/r/seduction23/02/22 05:46 AM
1

older virgin seems to be over 25
/r/seduction23/02/22 05:45 AM
1

what type of deformity do you have? post pics? if your not comfortable, you don't have to though
/r/seduction22/02/22 07:14 PM
1

even if my attitute or mindset improved, changed, there is still no denying the fact that guys are still expected to make the first move and be the initiators
/r/seduction21/02/22 11:41 PM
1

well guys deserve to stand up for themselves if they feel their masculinity is under attack, and hate, resent how they always have to initiate and make the first move
/r/seduction21/02/22 11:17 PM
7

ya the sexlessness, or virgin rate in Japan is much worse than the US, i wonder how the UK is compared to the US, and other European, Western Countries are
/r/seduction21/02/22 11:09 PM
1

what made you come to that conclusion? i first had sex at 28 with a one night stand, at a party, nothing really since then
/r/seduction21/02/22 11:05 PM
14

i believe social media such as instagram, and dating apps such as Tinder, has had an effect on this, i know its worse in Japan, but is it also affecting Europe and Australia, other countries as well?
/r/seduction21/02/22 10:39 PM
32

so is the incel community only growing, on the rise?
/r/seduction21/02/22 09:14 PM
1

well people are entitled to their mindset
/r/seduction21/02/22 08:55 PM
1

oh please, the game will always be cruel
/r/seduction20/02/22 08:58 PM
3

men initiating interactions with women, thats nothing new, that burden will always be on the guys shoulders, and i get mad when people and society say we guys, men, should embrace that role
/r/seduction20/02/22 06:38 PM
1

how long was that relationship?
/r/seduction20/02/22 05:11 PM
1

i know this is not for everyone, a lot of guys, men, would rather remain virgins later than normal or go on decades long dryspells, but escorts or sex workers have definetley done wonders, saved many peoples lives
/r/seduction18/02/22 10:27 AM
1

will never become normalized, i doubt it
/r/seduction17/02/22 11:05 PM
4

well people always say that men want to get laid more than women do, hence why women normally never approach guys, even if they are attracted to him, so i'm not sure if i buy that women are just as horny as men are
/r/seduction17/02/22 06:02 PM
1

i wonder if there are more 20-something male virgins today than ever before
/r/seduction17/02/22 12:02 AM
3

well it has to be dealt with whether you like it or not as a guy, since the burden of men initiating interactions with the opposite sex will never change
/r/seduction16/02/22 08:26 PM
2

25 has long been the standard age number in which people are seen for being in the minority for never having had sexual intercourse yet
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 08:24 PM
1

it wouldn't surprise me if its more common for there to be 20-something and 30-something male virgins today than ever before
/r/seduction14/02/22 04:58 PM
1

25 seems to be the magic age starting number
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 04:56 PM
1

25 is the starting age number it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 07:25 PM
1

oh please, this will never become normalized
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 07:23 PM
1

this will be controversial, and i figure more women will disagree with it than men will, probably because women don't know what men have to go through in order to get a date or attract women, for men, they can gain valuable dating/relationship experience from practicing on women they are not that crazily attracted to, practice leading or taking the lead, being the man in the relationship. For men its a matter of practice far more than women will, because women don't really need to practice their…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 07:21 PM
8

25 is when it seems to become a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 07:18 PM
1

what age did you lose the v-card?
/r/seduction13/02/22 04:28 PM
1

a guy can easily go much longer than this without ever dating anyone more
/r/seduction13/02/22 04:26 PM
1

seriously, it makes me feel like beating someone up to bloody pulp due to the certain unfairness of life
/r/seduction10/02/22 06:00 AM
1

i get so mad and enrage, pissed off, when people and society think we men have the better end of the stick
/r/seduction10/02/22 05:58 AM
1

another reminder of what i can't stand
/r/seduction02/02/22 03:12 PM
1

thats a normal age, because it was still in the teenage years, lots of people enter their 20s as virgins
/r/seduction01/02/22 02:44 AM
1

ya because lots of guys still struggle in their early 20s or well into their 20s
/r/seduction31/01/22 10:41 AM
1

looks like you figured out the dating game quite early in life
/r/seduction30/01/22 08:22 PM
1

ya but women normally will never ask a guy out or will never be the ones to approach a guy despite constant change in the world, society throughout the centuries, millenias, etc.
/r/seduction30/01/22 08:05 PM
2

interesting, since women normally will never approach a guy
/r/seduction29/01/22 12:56 PM
1

are you in your early 20s?
/r/seduction29/01/22 03:45 AM
1

was the sex awkward? because i know its that way for many people if they are new to sex
/r/seduction27/01/22 06:03 AM
1

interesting, i thought that would improve your self-esteem a lot
/r/seduction27/01/22 02:48 AM
1

are you still in contact with the girl you lost your v-card to?
/r/seduction26/01/22 05:29 PM
1

college student i assume
/r/seduction26/01/22 12:06 AM
3

i assume she's in her early 20s
/r/seduction25/01/22 11:40 PM
1

in your later 20s or later?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 09:31 PM
1

are you saying your a woman who didn't start dating until later?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 09:01 PM
1

something you don't expect to happen to women as much because women are next expected to make the first move or be the initiators
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:27 AM
1

usually i hear its 25
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:30 AM
1

i didn't have sex until 28, that felt late sadly, since it seems common for people to lose their virginity between ages 16-18
/r/seduction24/01/22 10:52 PM
1

oh i see, where you are originally from? i assume you are in your 20s
/r/seduction24/01/22 04:15 PM
1

you are from Austria?
/r/seduction24/01/22 04:13 PM
1

virginity is a social construct
/r/seduction24/01/22 04:00 PM
1

i assume you are in your 20s
/r/seduction23/01/22 11:56 PM
1

well hopefully it works out
/r/seduction23/01/22 05:03 PM
1

i believe theres even a famous book on this
/r/TheRedPill23/01/22 05:01 PM
1

i was being sarcastic and speaking of my lifelong hatred of how its normally always expected of guys to approach and make the first move, do the asking out, be the initiators in terms of starting a relationship, i doubt i'm the only guy in the world who resents how one-sided that is, tons of guys love it when girls make the first move or ask them out first.
/r/seduction22/01/22 07:57 PM
0

interesting to hear about a girl wanting to approach a guy
/r/seduction22/01/22 04:51 PM
1

interesting, girls normally don't do that
/r/seduction22/01/22 04:43 PM
1

the burden of testosterone will always make this one sided, and a penis as well
/r/seduction22/01/22 04:31 PM
1

i figure its more important that men get psychologically told in their formative years that life isn't fair more so than it is for women
/r/seduction19/01/22 07:48 AM
1

i see, are you on a long dryspell?
/r/seduction19/01/22 07:45 AM
1

seriously, i hate the way reality is so damn much, it makes me feel like getting into a fight with someone and beating them up to release my anger, rage, stress over the unfairness of this, and when people and society think we men have the better end of the stick, it makes me even more mad, it makes me feel like wanting to hurt them so bad, i want to make them squeal like a puppy as i break their neck
/r/seduction19/01/22 04:42 AM
1

it reminds me i get mad and enraged when people and society think we men have the better end of the stick
/r/seduction19/01/22 04:41 AM
1

well it doesn't fuckin' help that i have autism, i feel a person with autism has a right to resent the reality of this, since that condition affects a persons ability to socialize and connect with others beyond their control
/r/seduction19/01/22 04:41 AM
1

well a person with autism has a right to hate and resent this, since autism affects a persons ability to socialize and connect with others and that is usually beyond their control
/r/seduction19/01/22 04:40 AM
1

if you got to experience having a long-term sexual relationship in either your teenage years or by your early to mid-20s
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 04:21 AM
1

looks like social skills were less neccessary back then, or socially awkward people stood a much better chance at attracting someone
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 12:27 AM
1

are you saying you are a virgin?
/r/seduction18/01/22 10:51 PM
1

losing weight can help a lot
/r/seduction18/01/22 10:50 PM
1

well sadly, women will never start approaching men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:19 AM
1

have you ever paid for sex or had sex with an escort, sex worker? or know of guys, men who have?
/r/seduction17/01/22 05:44 AM
2

it would be nice and awesome if the government or society taught us guys, men, this stuff in our teenage years, formative years, and its obviously more important for men to have a better understanding of the dynamics of dating than women for these reasons you say
/r/seduction14/01/22 10:28 AM
1

it seems that couples meet or get together in their 20s more so than any other decade in life, how long have you been with her now?
/r/seduction14/01/22 04:20 AM
1

i assume you are in your 20s
/r/seduction13/01/22 08:55 PM
2

tons of guys enter their 20s or more like this unfortuneately
/r/seduction13/01/22 12:42 PM
1

i feel a mans social skills matter more than a womans in order for a woman to become attracted to a man
/r/seduction11/01/22 01:24 AM
1

reminds me how i read a long post somewhere, that changed my perspective on interactions or on talking to women, i thought the guy hit the nail right on the head, its another reminder of something that will never change, and can't do anything about it, as in, its unfortuneately the way the world works, as in, its just as natural as an earthquake or hurricane, as in, a mans social-skills or conversation-ability, the way he talks, the way he behaves around people, impacts his ability to get laid o…
/r/seduction11/01/22 12:33 AM
1

so my guess is, it was easier for people to find a partner back during those times, it wasn't so much as the guy approaching the woman the way it is today?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:19 PM
-1

WELL I FUCKIN' HATE THE WAY IT IS GOD DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!, seriously, it makes so mad it has to be this way, i hate messing up, i hate making mistakes, i don't care if its part of the process, i don't like going through that type of pain
/r/seduction09/01/22 03:35 PM
1

yup, for guys, men, its an option or choice if they want to become better with women or not, not the other way around though.
/r/seduction09/01/22 05:54 AM
0

well i have also heard, people say, guys, men, are meant to go through growth in life far more than women do, as a result of improving your dating life
/r/seduction09/01/22 05:36 AM
2

ya it's just that us humans, we don't solely have sex just for reproducing, i believe, along with dolphins and chimpanzees, could be some more animals, also have sex for fun and pleasure, and it doesn't help that i have autism, so it makes me kinda socially awkward by nature and it makes it feel beyond my control.
/r/seduction09/01/22 05:03 AM
2

i like to believe women choose more than men do
/r/seduction09/01/22 04:53 AM
1

i guess guys, men, were meant to reap more side benefits than women do as a result of improving your dating life
/r/seduction09/01/22 04:28 AM
1

one thing i also never understood, is that, why is it that when a guy develops game, or becomes better with women, why does it help or benefit him in other areas of life besides dating?
/r/seduction09/01/22 02:42 AM
-8

i hate the word learn and practice when it comes to this, because it reminds me of a long post i read somewhere that changed my view on talking to women, sadly theres no other way, well thats i picked my username, i get annoyed when people think we guys, men, have the better end of the stick
/r/seduction09/01/22 02:02 AM
2

so to sum it up, no regrets all, do you feel your mental or emotional health would be much worse now, if you hadn't gone to the escort?
/r/seduction09/01/22 01:22 AM
2

awesome, glad to hear that man, so i assume having sex with an escort, or despite paying for sex, it boosted your confidence or self-esteem a lot?
/r/seduction08/01/22 03:49 PM
1

tons of guys go well into their 20s and are still single like this, and yup, the burden of making things happen is one the guys shoulders, and i hate how us guys are supposed to embrace that, because thats like saying we as guys, men, can get results with women literally anytime we want
/r/seduction06/01/22 10:39 AM
0

i don't see how women need to know or learn how to meet or attract a guy, how or why so when women don't have do the pursuing or take the lead, make the first move or ask a guy out, etc.
/r/seduction06/01/22 10:38 AM
1

but very rarely, there is no denying that fact, so rare that it feels like it never happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:58 PM
1

i hardly ever hear of women admitting or posting about reaching their 30s, 40s or more without ever having had a boyfriend before, but i can think of plenty of guys, men, who have disclosed that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 10:39 AM
2

my guess is, it was easier for people to find partners back then
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 10:36 AM
1

well a lot of men feel they are forced to approach women, because they know that most women will never approach a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 10:06 AM
1

well posts on forums online, i hardly ever hear of women reaching their later 20s, 30s and more and never dated anyone, but i hear of lots of men like that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 10:05 AM
1

do you have any regrets about going to an escort? just want to get inspiration from guys who have done that
/r/seduction05/01/22 06:05 AM
1

so in other words, guys, men, were set up with women back then right? people played matchmaker?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:58 AM
1

then i wonder why there is now a huge dating coach industry out there now, it only seems to be growing or expanding, as in, a lot of guys, men, seem that dating coaches are their only hope for learning the social-skills for getting a girlfriend, it makes me wonder how did guys, men, learn or figure this stuff out before dating coaches existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:57 AM
1

well it makes sense for guys, men, to be the main or only gender, in which too much rejection can destroy ones mental and emotional health, since obviously guys are still expected to pursue and make the first move, you say you asked a guy out and the guy said he had a girlfriend, welcome to the world of being a guy. If women dealt with rejection a lot just like guys, men do, in terms of meeting someone for establishing a relationship, then i'm sure tons of women would have a different perspectiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:14 AM
1

so arranged marriage was more common? that didn't require the guy to approach the woman or be the one to spark and build attraction with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:12 AM
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one thing i never liked about this debate or argument, is that if a guy feels women have the better end of the stick, he gets labeled as being a baby, a whiner, an incel, but if a woman feels the same way about guys, men, she will more likely get sympathy and emotional support, and far more men than women end up forever single or forever alone, virgins later than normal it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:04 AM
1

are studies and research confirming, that men don't approach women as much anymore in western countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:46 AM
1

was a late bloomer, until 28, one night stand
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 09:42 AM
1

hopefully no regrets
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 09:42 AM
2

probably because what makes a man attractive to woman, a lot of it is social behavior based or just behavioral based, or just game requires more from men than it does of women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 09:41 AM
1

reminds me, when people call it a skillset, i get very annoyed
/r/seduction04/01/22 01:14 AM
1

why do i get the feeling it will always be extremely rare for women to do this
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:23 PM
1

i would believe that then
/r/seduction01/01/22 11:32 PM
1

hopefully she doesn't flake or ghost you
/r/seduction30/12/21 08:41 PM
1

i assume he was the one who asked you out or hit on you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:13 PM
1

people will always say that no one is entitled or owed dates or a relationship, the world owes us nothing, but it feels thats how it is for men only, women look like they are owed it since they don't have to pursue, always have options coming their way
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:11 PM
1

lots of people feel the movie is an insult to people who have not had sexual intercourse by the time they've reached 25
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:10 PM
1

25 seems to be the starting age number
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:05 PM
1

well a lot of guys seem to figure it out without getting advice or help from a PUA or dating coach
/r/seduction28/12/21 06:48 PM
1

sounds like you figured out how to get laid quite early in life
/r/seduction27/12/21 09:11 PM
1

my only motive is to end a dryspell and gain more sexual experience, i don't have experience with all the basic sex positions yet
/r/seduction27/12/21 08:37 PM
1

only reason i'm considering going to an escort, paying for sex, is to end a dryspell and gain more sexual experience, but i don't want to make it a hobby or an addiction
/r/seduction27/12/21 08:22 AM
1

sounds believable, that far more men than women remain virgins deep or late into adulthood like that
/r/seduction26/12/21 10:07 PM
1

do you have any regrets about paying for sex? if not, did it improve your mood or self-esteem despite paying for it?
/r/seduction26/12/21 10:07 PM
1

well since your a woman, be glad that you don't have to initiate or escalate anything with a guy
/r/seduction26/12/21 10:06 PM
1

i would like to believe that women love penis just as much as men love vagina
/r/seduction26/12/21 07:24 PM
2

yup, and as always, women play a passive role
/r/seduction26/12/21 05:04 AM
3

i never understood why men are supposed to enjoy or embrace this role either
/r/seduction26/12/21 05:03 AM
1

girls literally come to him? interesting, because girls normally never actively pursue guys or initiate with guys
/r/seduction24/12/21 01:59 AM
1

i didn't have intercourse until 28
/r/seduction23/12/21 12:01 AM
1

i was 28 unfortuneately, one night stand at a party
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:02 PM
1

well women normally never approach guys
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:01 PM
2

well the way it looks like or seems, the way a woman talks or communicates, it looks like or feels, it doesn't affect her chances of getting a date or getting a boyfriend than the other way around, maybe because the way the man talks and interacts with people, impacts his attractiveness more than the other way around and women don't have to be confident because nobody cares about a womans confidence since thats not how men are attracted to women
/r/seduction20/12/21 06:14 PM
3

ya, women are basically forced to learn how to talk to guys pretty much on auto-pilot from the moment they hit puberty, they have no choice but to learn social skills, and they gain it right away by doing nothing since they don't have to open their mouth first like guys do.
/r/seduction19/12/21 09:18 PM
2

it will never change, but i hate with a huge passion, that why does it always or seems it has to come down to a guys social-skills or certain social-behaviors, behavioral-based or trait things, the way he talks, walks, interacts or behaves around people, is what determines most of a guys attractiveness to women or his ability to get a girlfriend, because confidence and leadership or just taking the lead, is obviously a mental or social behavior or social-skills based thing, etc. For women it see…
/r/seduction19/12/21 07:13 PM
2

ya it seems the way a guy talks and interacts with people has a much bigger impact on his attractiveness than the other way around
/r/seduction19/12/21 06:21 PM
2

the way i see it, its only men who need to practice talking to women, not the other way around
/r/seduction19/12/21 06:19 PM
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well in real life, i don't know if its possible for a woman to end up as a 40 year old virgin involuntary, but easy for a man involuntary obviously, Lolo Jones doesn't count because for her its obviously by choice and she could have easily a long time if she wanted to
/r/seduction15/12/21 05:37 AM
1

i guess the reason why it seems or feels that way, a good example, and i made a post about it, the movie The 40-Year Old Virgin with Steve Carrell, its quite obvious the main star of the movie was a guy, male, i highly doubt there will ever be a movie like that in which the main star of the movie is a woman, female.
/r/seduction15/12/21 04:52 AM
1

it seems that way, because it doesn't seem possible for a woman to be an incel, women normally don't end up going deep or late into adulthood without ever having had a relationship before like a lot of guys, men do
/r/seduction15/12/21 04:38 AM
3

reminds me of a powerful quote that changed my view, it is: "men have to create their value, women have to protect their value"
/r/seduction15/12/21 04:13 AM
1

ya i always hated and resented the dynamics of dating, i put it in my new thread post, in the "Vent" section on reddit
/r/seduction15/12/21 02:38 AM
3

i think it was a woman from Canada right? she wasn't straight or heterosexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 12:37 AM
3

well men are the only gender who need to take or accept responsibility for their lives, thats how it seems
/r/seduction14/12/21 05:59 PM
1

some people say it has to do with the way guys, men, are raised and brought up in todays society, it all starts in their childhood, elementary school, they unfortuneately learn and develop passive permission seeking behaviors that repel women, such as raising your hand for permission if you need to use the restroom, gaining approval and praise from turning in your homework
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:54 AM
1

regardless if it is or not, women approaching men will always be extremely rare, but you can't say all guys will be turned off by that, can't speak for every guy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:50 AM
3

ya i don't understand why the U.S. makes prostitution illegal or sex workers illegal, meanwhile thats not the case in Australia or most of Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:47 AM
2

so people are not dating as much as previous decades?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:45 AM
18

well thats why what i meant by my post, is its impossible for a woman to be an incel, well thats how it seems, i could be wrong, but i doubt there are women 40 year old virgins that are that way not by choice, but who knows
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:34 AM
3

i kinda agree, even women who are not even close to looking like a model, just average or plain jane women, are far less likely than men are to end up as 30 year old virgins or more, i guarantee there will never be a female version of that famous Steve Carrell movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 02:42 AM
3

being socially awkward or socially-inept, if a guy has poor social skills or is socially-awkward, socially-inept or socially clumsy, he can easily unfortuneately make social mistakes when interacting, talking to people that can cause him to easily be labeled or seen as being weird, creepy by people and society, be labeled stalkerish or just someone who is annoying, weird, women can be just like that, make those exact same social mistakes like men do, and they are far less likely to get labeled c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 02:41 AM
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i guarantee there will never be a female version of the movie The 40-year old Virgin, its quite obvious as to why the main star of the movie was male.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:26 PM
1

well its different for you as a woman, because your not expected to approach guys or make the first move, not expected to initiate anything
/r/seduction10/12/21 10:17 PM
1

why don't you go to a bar? be glad you don't have to hit on guys since your a woman
/r/seduction04/12/21 08:08 PM
1

ya, my mindset has changed but i get annoyed and enraged, irritated, when people call it a skillset or learnable skill, it makes me mad
/r/seduction04/12/21 08:07 PM
1

well i assume he had to be the one to pursue her or hit on her
/r/seduction03/12/21 10:17 PM
1

people say for men, the main hurdle or burden in getting their dating life handled, is knowing how to build the attraction, mens dating advice revolves around building the attraction with a woman
/r/seduction03/12/21 08:19 PM
1

ya something must go wrong in a guys teenage years that makes him not develop the proper social skills that are essential for success with women
/r/seduction03/12/21 08:18 PM
1

and obviously thats going to affect mens dating lives more than womens dating lives, since it has always been and likely always will be up to men to initiate interactions with women
/r/seduction03/12/21 08:17 PM
1

so sounds like he didn't lose his virginity until later than normal
/r/seduction03/12/21 08:17 PM
1

this human gender dynamic is probably the main reason why far more men than women end up forever alone or end up as virgins far later than normal
/r/seduction03/12/21 07:55 PM
2

i would assume there are twice as many male virgins as female virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 05:00 PM
1

i have considering paying for sex, having sex with an escort
/r/seduction30/11/21 11:43 AM
1

i like to believe and think that its only men who need to know or learn how to attract a woman, not the other way around
/r/seduction29/11/21 10:09 PM
1

thats why my feelings have changed towards escorts and sex workers
/r/seduction29/11/21 09:13 PM
1

makes sense there is much more for a man to do, i assume what you mean is, a man has to do a lot more or have more going for him, in order to attract a woman than the other way around right?
/r/seduction29/11/21 09:10 PM
1

thats why i sometimes like to think or feel that guys, men, are the only gender in life that were meant to have a mentor in their life, you don't really hear of women having a mentor
/r/seduction28/11/21 06:49 PM
1

something must go wrong in a guys teenage years or adolescence that causes him to not develop that correct confidence
/r/seduction28/11/21 06:48 PM
2

i've also heard that it doesn't help, or just make things worse, due to how guys, men, starting in their childhood, in elementary school, the staff members, teachers being female-dominated, it has a major effect on a guys masculinity development growing up, it stagnates it, etc.
/r/seduction28/11/21 06:47 PM
1

yup, another reminder, its like the way it looks like, men have to develop themselves to be seen as boyfriend material or be attractive to women, but women are attractive to men simply by default
/r/seduction28/11/21 06:46 PM
1

yes, because women don't know what the average guy has to go through or deal with, or all the self-improvement men have to do in order to get a girlfriend
/r/seduction27/11/21 09:43 AM
1

thats possible
/r/seduction27/11/21 03:14 AM
1

yup, my feelings have definetley softened towards escorts and paying for sex, i see nothing wrong with only under certain circumstances
/r/seduction27/11/21 03:13 AM
2

i wonder if their fathers or male siblings taught them how, i like to think that, something must go wrong in a guys teenage years or puberty, adolescent years, if he doesn't learn or figure out the correct way how to talk girls or successfully interact with them, attract them, that sets him up for a long downward spiral into 20s or even much later sadly.
/r/seduction26/11/21 05:40 PM
1

i wonder if he is forever mentally in pain over not having had sex until late in life
/r/seduction26/11/21 12:44 PM
1

ya i've heard of some guys on reddit, they say they have no regrets losing the v-card to an escort or sex worker, of course this varies or depends on the guy
/r/seduction26/11/21 12:43 PM
1

i doubt its possible for a woman to end up as a 40 year old virgin involuntary
/r/seduction26/11/21 12:41 PM
1

i believe they call it the GFE for guys, men, or girlfriend experience.
/r/seduction26/11/21 12:40 PM
1

ya i believe it varies for guys
/r/seduction26/11/21 12:40 PM
1

also, another reminder of how cruel nature can be
/r/seduction26/11/21 07:53 AM
1

my guess is, losing your virginity by paying for it or to a sex worker has been out of the question for you, for many years now
/r/seduction26/11/21 07:52 AM
1

reminds me of a long post i read by another guy, i thought he hit the nail right on the head, it changed my perspective on talking to women
/r/seduction26/11/21 07:49 AM
1

i've always hated it when people say that women get chosen, while men get to choose, yes men get to choose who they approach, talk to, but those approaches don't mean jackshit unless the woman consents, the woman is in the position of consent if you get what i'm saying.
/r/seduction26/11/21 07:49 AM
1

if it was easy, then the dating coach and pick up artist industry wouldn't be so huge, it seems to be growing and expanding
/r/seduction26/11/21 05:20 AM
1

ya sometimes it angers and pisses me off so much of whats expected of men when it comes to getting a girlfriend or attracting women, i don't know, hard to say, sometimes it makes me mad when people say we men have the better end of the stick of the human mating system
/r/seduction26/11/21 05:20 AM
1

a lot of guys feel that some guys are just not meant to have a girlfriend
/r/seduction22/11/21 11:36 PM
2

women still normally play a passive role in human mating or almost never ask guys out or are the initiators
/r/seduction22/11/21 02:28 AM
1

yup, i'm a fan of the belief there are more male wizards than female wizards
/r/seduction21/11/21 11:10 PM
1

ya it bothers me a lot when people say that women get chosen or men get to choose, they make it sound like men have all the power and control
/r/seduction21/11/21 11:01 PM
1

do you think there is any truth behind the caveman analogy i mentioned?
/r/seduction21/11/21 10:18 PM
1

my guess is, a PUA helped you out?
/r/seduction20/11/21 06:00 AM
1

how long was your longest relationship?
/r/seduction14/11/21 01:37 AM
0

are you implying your first time having sex was paying for it?
/r/seduction14/11/21 01:34 AM
1

most people will say no
/r/seduction14/11/21 01:33 AM
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