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My comment literally says don’t neglect your children. The burden of childcare should not be placed solely on your wife
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:32 PM
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Ok my bad I misread what you were saying. I apologize, I misread it and didn’t think to question it because a lot of people were being bad faith I will write an actual reply: No man your situation is not unique. My situation is unique in the sense that I am uniquely motivated to pursue sex in this way because I am mentally ill. My obsession and my desire comes from child trauma and rape. This is not normal. Most men, even the ones who aren’t part of the communities you listed would never be moti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:05 PM
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The very real opinion of “just don’t be fat” or “unless she’s obese” is true. It can’t be that real. You can have sex on a frequent basis with men you’re attracted to. I get guys who have pretty much given up. I get so very little effort. They don’t talk to me. They don’t ask me any questions about myself. Ok I think this is also bad. I think it’s bad. It’s bad. I don’t know what you think my views are but if I saw a man doing this I would call him out on it. I just see way more women doing thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:39 PM
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Yo ask me if I’m mentally ill and in my last reply I literally explicitly state They don’t. I have mental health issues. You’re not listening. You’re not reading what I’m saying. You’re trying to use my personal experience to refute my claims when they are irrelevant and exist independent of anything I experience. I will no longer be taking this thread seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:31 PM
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Ok. So the answer is you and you again. Look I’m not invalidating your experience and I really don’t think you don’t deserve to be ghosted but if I were to tell you my personal experience you would probably be appalled. What you have experienced is literally a pipe dream for me. I have been using bumble since September and I have gotten one like. Not match. One like. It’s very clear that the way men approach dating allows you to have more experience than me and lots of other men. My point is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:18 PM
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Ahaha so funny 😐
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:59 PM
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Ok I have a question. If you truly believe the disparity in likes can simply be explained by men liking women they don’t want. Who do you think could have more sex by the end of this week, me or you? If you’re going to say you, but you don’t want sex. Who do you think could go on more dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:54 PM
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It’s women acting like they are attracted to men they aren’t attracted to. I’m not taking you seriously and neither should anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:51 PM
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OK, I am now also publicly blaming men for swiping on profiles they aren’t interested in. It’s not even that I didn’t think it was an issue. It’s just that I think that the problems that women are causing are a bigger deal because they are so much more widespread and don’t lead to connection. Look if a guy who isn’t that interested in you swipes on you, at least there’s a chance for that relationship forming. That seems like less of a problem to me than what I outlined.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:45 PM
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OK, I will take this as an opportunity to just label you illiterate I literally said explicitly in a post I do not expect any woman to date any man she’s not interested in and this is your second sentence. If the woman doesn’t find a man who meets her standard, she doesn’t have to date that’s it like obviously, I never said she had to. I’m sorry I don’t have the energy to go back and forth with retards
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:42 PM
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OK cool keep doing it. Do you think I’m in support of those men matching with you and they have no intention of talking to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:39 PM
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Women have no agency bc controlled by biology?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:38 PM
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Because when I read this all I get is the typical resentment of the effort you have to put in to access sex that you need to satiate your obsession with women (yes it’s not healthy and it’s not unique making the title of your op a bit redundant). Women who likely don’t share that obsession with men. So I don’t set you off again I mean that in a broader sense. Huh bro. This isn’t even about me lmao. My situation is not unique. I’m a man obviously a lot of the things that I mention in the post I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:37 PM
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Ok so tell me why my comment has negative upvotes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:25 PM
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Ok why are you telling me this. Shes the one saying men go for the top 1/3 of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:23 PM
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No it’s not. You’re stupid. Re read my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:19 PM
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I did answer, not only in another thread but also in the edits I made in the post. Take a look
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:18 PM
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You can have inequity in a free market. What do you think wealth inequality is lmfao 😭😭. Anyways I made edits to the post outlining everything that you needed written out in crayons.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:17 PM
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I made edits to the post that clearly explain what my complaints are at the bottom please re read
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:15 PM
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Read my post. I made edits that clearly lay out the issues for people who struggle like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:15 PM
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Calling people pathetic for yearning for human connection and doing things at a cost to themselves for the sake of forming in relationships in the only way they know how to is honestly disgusting. But hey what do I know. Honestly it sounds like you don’t even believe it’s not a problem you just don’t care. Which is ur choice but I can’t take someone who has a clear lack of empathy and convert them as an individual so enjoy ur day
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:14 PM
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I’m sorry I genuinely thought I re replied to you with a more substantive answer. I added edits to my post which you can read at the bottom that answer your questions
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:11 PM
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Check my post I added edits to the bottom
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:10 PM
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I edited my post please read edits
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:09 PM
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lol ok don’t answer. but hey read through my edit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:08 PM
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Dude, I don’t know what you’re fucking stupid or just illiterate. I didn’t ask you if you wanted to live in a world where men only date women they want to. I asked you if you wanted to live in a world where **the only women men wanted to date were women with hourglass figures and natural asses that look like BBLs*** These are SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT THINGS. One is advocating for forced marriage and rape and the other is advocating for realistic beauty standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 11:03 PM
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A woman in the same thread as u just claimed only 1 in a million men are attractive enough to date. Most people don’t even have that many people in the city they live in let alone their age bracket. How is that not problematic. Or do unrealistic beauty standards only apply to women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:57 PM
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To exploit: to make productive use of : UTILIZE to make use of meanly or unfairly for one's own advantage Please explain how women having men text first due to what they view as desperation and the willingness of any man who wants them to reach out to them isn’t women unfairly making use of means situation for their advantage?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:23 PM
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Maybe because you are an outlier on most women; I mean I know my case specifically doesn’t say much bc I’m below avg female height where I’m at. Having those traits is not enough for me to get any women on dating apps. 4 matches per month most of which rarely respond to the first message. Go talk you your guy friends ask them how many matches they get on tinder. I’m assuming you know some guys like that considering we agree that’s most guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:06 PM
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No one is asking these women to manage the desire of other men. I’m just asking for these women to treat other men like people that they’re dating if they’re dating. To stop appealing to what were patriarchal ways of life because they benefit them that are actively destroying society. I have a genuine question. Imagine there was a person who, for their entire life was deemed undeserving of friendship. Not even necessarily because he was a bad person but because no one liked him because he had bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:01 PM
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What do you believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:54 PM
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No, it’s not one of these individual behaviors that I would abusive. The abuse comes from the fact that is a position of power in order to exploit men and force them to comply with these asks despite not doing them at all. The abusive part is going “ I’m worth more than you and you’re not worthy of love unless you do these things” that is abusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:54 PM
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Those were 3 separate years or no questions and you only answered the first one. I’m particularly interested in your answer to this question Is that the world you want to live in or does this only work one way?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:33 PM
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Most men are this young men are this guy outside of maybe being intelligent or hardworking lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:31 PM
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Oh really? Because u/UnstableHotspot says she would swipe on these me on dating apps interesting. I wonder which one of u is wrong. Either she is just superficial and lying or you just don’t use the tools at ur disposal to date these men… Hmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:31 PM
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While there are 50 percent more likes sent by straight men under 20 than straight women under 20, that ratio gets more and more skewed as people get older. In the 55-59 demographic there are 800 percent more likes sent by men than women. Lmao and less just ignore this part I’d say that the biggest dating challenge men face on apps is, as it is in real life, the burden to initiate. On Hinge, men send a first like more than three times as often as women. But more than that, when women do initiate,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:48 PM
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Where? Quote me. Please quote from my OP where I’m whining about women not choosing me specifically and not the topic as a broader social issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:23 PM
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Find me something that gives another point and I will use that instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:21 PM
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Listen, I did not say your situation was analogous. I don’t know anything about your situation. I depicted hypothetical scenario in which it could be an analogous. If you live in a society ( which yes, does count at school), and you are seen as someone who is unworthy of friendship due to some form of prejudice or unreasonable standard that leads people to take advantage of you. Yes it is society’s job to fix ITSELF in order to make up for the injustice you are experiencing. That is the morally …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:20 PM
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This is just not true. where do you get off blatantly lying that women are liking a broader range of men than vice versa? Like seriously. It’s not true empirically. It’s not true based off of anecdotes. why lie? Please, we can do an experiment ourselves, where we make two profiles, one with a morbidly obese woman and the other with an average man. You tell me which one you think is gonna get more likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:14 PM
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If you’re spending disproportionate amount of money on your kids compared to your husband, I think that’s a problem as well. That should not be normalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:11 PM
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You can reply again if you want, I fucked it up and had to edit it because of the markdown is diff on Reddit I didn’t realize that l lol. Women feel entitled to effort from men they want "due to the effort" of men they don't want? Yes Women should put as much effort into dating men as men put into dating women Why? Because it produces relationships built on mutual attraction, appreciation, reciprocity, and respect which are likely to lead to healthier relationships. It also allows more relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:09 PM
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Please point to any part of my post where this was implied or don’t so everyone reading this comment knows you are a bad faith dumb ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:05 PM
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Men want women more than women want men, so men put more effort into dating than women do. Women put less effort into dating than men do even when talking to men they do want, not because they want those men less than the other men that want them, but because they feel entitled to the effort due to the effort of people whom they want less. Women should put as much effort into dating men as men put into dating women. No one is saying date men you don’t want. In fact DO NOT DATE MEN YOU DONT WANT.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:52 PM
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OhI have a question I really want to ask you. Do you think it’s possible that a thoughtful guy who doesn’t want to approach random women in public out of the fear of making someone uncomfortable who has the qualities of being a kind hearted person, who’s in shape, has hobbies, is amicable, has friends, is intelligent, hard working, to not be one of the 20% of men that women are liking on dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:49 PM
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Oh you’re ok with men having unrealistic beauty standards for women too? Should all men only vow to date women with hour glasses and natural butts that look like BBLs? Is that the world you want to live in or does this only work one way?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:44 PM
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Women using men’s lack of access to relationships and their higher sex drive in order to create a culture where women are looked at as a prize and something to be earned rather than approaching relationships with the sole intention of trying to produce something built on mutual appreciation. This is why women don’t approach men. It’s viewed as the man’s job to go out of his way and put himself in an emotionally vulnerable position. This isn’t something merely preferential is is mentioned as a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:42 PM
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OK, well it’s something so intuitive that I just assumed that you would come to the answer yourself based off of what I outlined in the post by looking at every problem, I identified and looking at the opposite. I point to this thread it’s kind of exhausting explaining this multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:32 PM
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No, I don’t. What I’m saying is that people have the ability to form relationships with people. They have access they simply don’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:26 PM
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Dude i’m not refusing to answer anything . But I’m refusing to do is engage with disingenuous bad faith actors. You can go read other comments I clearly have no issue answering or replying to active. Her first assumption was literally that my main issue was that woman have the ability to choose with nowhere in my post did I ever infer that. Then she wanted to try to tie that to how I’m somehow advocating for women to be forcibly married again, that’s the era I want to go back to because I have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:18 PM
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Why do you say this like there hasn’t been an entire movement dedicated to breaking down unhealthy and unrealistic duty standards for women over the past four decades because we asked us to society, realized how unhealthy and destructive they were. I want you to answer this question. Do you think that world would be a better or worse place if men only dated 10/10 women, and told women who weren’t 10/10s they should just look better and that they simply weren’t good enough to be dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:13 PM
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Dude, you people are so obtuse. Social prosecution and inequity isn’t limited to going to jail, assault, or not having access to certain career opportunities. I want to give you the exercise of trying to take a genuine effort in trying to guess what I mean. If you can’t come to any sort of reasonable guess I will not reply to you again.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:08 PM
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There’s no way you actually believe this. Please tell me in what world racist legislature can predate the racist. Also, in your example of the friend group you can definitely argue that you are being an oppressed. hypothetically speaking if you went to a high school school, where nobody wanted to be your friend because they simply thought you weren’t good enough enough, and instead, those people chose to either remain neutral or berate you or use the fact that friendship was something that you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:05 PM
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Absolutely in each case you have mentioned the reason why women don’t do these things is because they know men are more willing to because men want them more. They don’t approach men because they know they don’t have to. Men want women more so they’re more likely to do that means “I don’t have to, if he wanted to he would” The reason women don’t ask men on dates is because she doesn’t have to because me want women more. He’s supposed to show effort not her and so on and so on. All of this stems …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:49 PM
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What no one is saying this. Please point to one comment where I said women should be hooking up with men they don’t want 😭. You guys are just saying shit. I’ve already explicitly stated what I wanted multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:59 PM
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No, trust me I believe you believe this lmao. That is my point. The fat that you believe 95% of men on dating apps aren’t worth looking at is indicative of a bigger issue, and one that needs more examination.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:58 PM
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Oh ok I understand. The only reason I’ve been able to get myself out of this situation is because I have an unhealthy obsession with women due to my younger years of inceldom. I went through about 5 years of actively trying to get a girlfriend before I lost my virginity to a girl who raped me. This led to a lot of my self worth being reliant on whether or not I could actively have sex. I am very social I approach a lot of women on and off the internet and I have a success rate of about 1 in roug…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:54 PM
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It’s funny that you think only 5% of men aren’t slobs. Dude the majority of these men aren’t even getting to the point where their effort in conversation can be used as a valid point of criticism when rejecting them. Like dude seriously, why do we have to demonize men. I’m giving you shit that is empirical. What percent of men looking for a relationship where the girl is a bang-maid and if that number is lower than 80% please try to take another more realistic look at why this is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:38 PM
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No it’s my understanding that even if you don’t want someone as much as they want want you, that’s not something you try to use to your advantage to try to get what you want out of people. You don’t find it appalling in the slightest sense that I’m getting downvoted in this exact thread for what is basically “treat people how you want to be treated”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:32 PM
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People being at home on their phones is not what is preventing people from being in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:28 PM
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I don’t even understand why do you think this is a gotcha. Obvious men are going to match less if women like less men…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:10 PM
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Dude, I don’t know if you even read what I said, because the first two paragraphs don’t even matter. I I don’t even know if you’re actually trying to have a conversation. I really don’t know what else there is I can say. I guess I’ll just restate it. Men wanting to hookup with women doesn’t stop women from doing any of the things I’m asking for, and it would not only produce healthier relationship relationships, it would decrease the amount of men looking for casual sex. Also, I don’t deny that …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:09 PM
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No one said this either. Like you guys are completely incapable of having any sort of good discussion. No one should take you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:00 PM
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You are already well aware that only swiping right on 5% of profiles does not mean women are only swiping right on the same 5% of profiles, but you ignored it because it's inconvenient to your narrative. Where is this ignored? I’m sorry. I didn’t women were liking the same 5% of men. I inferred that they were liking the same 20% of men. Also, you falsely claim that "ugliness" is the only possible reason for a woman to swipe right. There is nothing to support that assertion. What when did I say t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:59 PM
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Dude, where did I mention submitting or having kids in my post. Like are you guys just incapable of having any real conversation without it degrading into a smorgasbord of unrelated, talking points. Like obviously the context of the post is within dating. Nobody’s talking about woke and liberal societies. Can we lock in? Like holy shit what does assault have to do with anything you just took that out of your ass for some random emotional appeal at the end of the unnecessary paragraph you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:54 PM
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Dude, you act like this shit just comes from nowhere. Why are men desperate? Why are men willing to go to such great lengths to appease women even just to fuck? It’s almost like if you don’t engage in the behavior, you’re not going to produce any positive outcome. It makes absolutely no sense why you look at these people and go “stop trying to date women in the only way that works”. Please stop acting as if men trying to fuck is the problem. Even men who don’t try to hookup with random people st…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:49 PM
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It is so incredibly absurd that you would ask people who are being exploited to stop engaging in the only way they know how to in order to produce relationships instead of just asking the people who are abusing their power to stop abusing it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:39 PM
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Yeah, but I would fit within your generalization, right? Whether it was target or not the implication was that I was meant to be caught within the wide net u cast. Or at least that was my understanding. And I have no idea what you mean by the second sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:36 PM
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If these are the only forms of social injustice you can fathom you might not be capable of having this conversation. The implication was not that these two forms of social inequality were comparable… it was that that society can be oppressive, and it is not simply the fault of the individual for being in a bad position.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:32 PM
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Why? Because you don’t think the levels of harm rise to anything you deem valid or because you find the idea preposterous? It’s definitely the case that women rely on the current state of dating in order to exploit men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:29 PM
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Yeah bro, that’s what I advocated for in the post is forced marriages and rape. /s I’m sorry i genuinely can’t take you seriously.😭
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:26 PM
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I want women to humanize men. This means that they need to take a deep look and reform a lot of their patriarchal dating standards as we move towards a more egalitarian society. A lot of which are centered around that woman the prize and something to be earned. Women need to stop this line of thinking specifically “I’m not doing that, it’s a man’s job to…” This means women need to be less judgmental of men who approach them, they need to start approaching men themselves, they should start asking…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:24 PM
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I agree with your first point, but I think that our society has reached the point where that idea of it being social suicide needs to disappear. The “ misogynist” being anyone who brings any criticisms towards women is an outdated idea and if we want a truly equitable society, we need to get away from that no matter the consequences. As for your second point it most definitely will something. No one is saying that these women are forced to date people. No one is saying that these women are force…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:14 PM
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OK, so your argument is to say what I get no hoes? Obviously the people who complain about it are going to be people who struggle with dating. This is so stupid. Is my argument invalid because in the world you imagine I don’t get pussy? If I show you screenshots of women begging for my cock, does that automatically make everything I say valid. These issues are empirically proven, regardless of people’s anecdotal experience. Trying to rely on whether or not the person who makes the argument is so…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:07 PM
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I don’t message first because too many guys just swipe right in everybody and filter from there. I’m an undesirable. Obese. I know most of my “matches” are bullshit. Respectfully, dog shit rationalization for why you don’t have to put an effort. If you’re going to assume nobody is interested in you then don’t match with any one at all. You’re just lazy bro. I’m not saying your concerns are real but this whole “if they were interested they would text first” approach works both ways and if everyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:03 PM
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Over 30. That’s the demographic that’s normally complaining right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:00 PM
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No, no that doesn’t work. We should have never told people that being racist is bad. There is no such thing as social reform. That’s just something that you read in fairytale books. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:59 PM
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Making the issues apparent allows for people who are already empathetic to stop engaging in the behavior Advocating for empathy will allows those who don’t have empathy for men’s dating issues a bridge to get to the point where when an issue is made apparent they will stop engaging in the behavior And finally shaming people for engaging in the bad behavior will cause people who have no motivation to be empathetic to be disincentivized from engaging in the behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:58 PM
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OK, I have a real question for you. Imagine you live in a racist society one where due to people’s own prejudices you are socially prosecuted for simply existing. Do you believe in any form of social reform in this situation or is the fact that everybody hates you just “your own problem”.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:54 PM
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I don’t think it should be disproportionate in the sense that only one side is being held accountable for things that they do wrong. I just seen an overwhelming amount of people who under play the effects of behavior that women engaging because they want to go “ oh well everyone does bad things sometimes”. A diminishes the severity way too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:52 PM
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Because to someone who doesn’t know whether or not the woman is attracted, they basically have to try the risky behavior and hope it sticks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:58 PM
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The solution is that women just approach men but most of them don’t even want to text first so good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:40 PM
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Did you need to live through Jim Crow in order to know that living without it is better?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:14 PM
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Ok but tbf it’s less about being arrested and more about just making women uncomfortable. Like one time I was in the car with a girl after we had gotten food and give on a nice walk. She was intently making eye strong contact and then she pulled out her lip gloss and looked me in my eyes while she put it on and did this thing where she licked her lips slowly. I was so sure she wanted me but when I went in for a kiss she pushed me off and then said she would mace me if i tried again. That’s just …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 03:05 PM
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The only difference is that I don’t see anyone begging for someone to convert them to a different religion. There are women who beg for these demonized traits in men. Obviously ppl are only going to want interactions they want. That’s tautological. I’m talking about women shaming men for engaging in behavior they said they wanted or for men saying they want to engage in behavior they’re asking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:29 PM
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I don’t know why you blame the internet. Dating apps would function perfectly fine if women actually texted men back and they weren’t so picky. The internet just exacerbated problems that already existed. Women swipe left(no) on men 95% of the time. 95% and still text back at lower rates than men when they do match. As someone who has approached plenty of women on and off the internet with good intentions. Respectfully, the internet is not the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:26 PM
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Oooh nice way to seal the deal that you were never good faith with the incel inference at the end very cool 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:38 PM
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If you cant understand the concept of an analogy ur not worth talking to have a nice day
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:13 PM
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Oh so it’s no longer logically congruent bc a black woman told me not to say it. Get over urself. It’s the same logic that people use to justify their fear of black ppl. “B-b-but they make up 13% of the population and do 50% of the crime, am I wrong for being afraid of them. I mean, every time I see a crime committed it’s one of those ppl, and everyone I know who has been robbed had it done to them by a black person” All of a sudden it’s prejudice that doesn’t affect you and you don’t care lmfao…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:00 PM
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Alright well if ur consistent id love to hear ur takes on black people and being around us 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 08:31 PM
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You do realize that the safety level of cars at the current level is what led to the 1 in 3 number. The serious crashes with cars being this safe occurs at the same rate as ur stat as female rape victims. But for some reason now ppl shouldn’t be afraid bc we’ve made them as safe as possible? If ur saying the rates is what justifies the fear then the fears should be relatively close. Ur argument is nonsensical
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 08:30 PM
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Again ignoring multiple variables in order to support your case. Also no it doesn’t stop you. Roughly 30% of people have been in a car accident resulting in serious injury and that doesn’t stop you from getting in a car
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 05:38 PM
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It’s not irrelevant at all. It’s the same reason you’re not paranoid at the device in your hand is going to explode. Phones blow up. The handheld device that is most likely to blow up a phone. That doesn’t stop you from buying a phone. Why? Because you know for a fact that most phones don’t blow up. Even if phones are the things that are most likely to blow up. That doesn’t mean that they are likely to blow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 05:30 PM
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What is your basis for believing this? I don’t honk you could possibly evaluate this likelihood, and are just making a guess based on your feelings. You’re right there really isn’t a study to prove this. I just haven’t really seen any videos of men shooing or laughing at women trying to approach them in bars and clubs ir on the street i have seen plenty of the women doing this to men. I hear men often complain about it and not women. Also men are just more likely to approach women as a whole and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 05:26 PM
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It’s not that women are more likely to commit assaults it’s what % of men are assaulters is being argued as a whole. Hence the statement men as a demographic aren’t likely to assault women That isn’t the same as saying men commit the most assaults Just, most men haven’t and won’t assault women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 05:09 PM
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I agree and this makes sense. However like I said in my post this fear is based on dehumanization and it doesn’t women fear men in their life any more than random men on the street despite the likelihood. The number of men who would rape is different than the men who have and more rape would occur if women where in more positions for it to occur. However regardless of the accuracy of my estimated number which could be diluted even more by looking at more variables, my point still stands. Most me…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 04:20 PM
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This is the most valid counter argument. It’s like people being afraid of being bitten by sharks when they go swim. The truth is just that people don’t engage with men like this on a daily basis unless the conditions allow for it. They don’t assume the average man like a rapist. Women routinely interact with men in ways less harsh than they would a date even if judging them the same. Let’s assume that a woman assumes all men are rapist she doesn’t refuse to engage with male doctors or male uber …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 04:02 PM
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I 100% agree. I just don’t think it’s fair to use it as a universal excuse to make yourself seem less shallow than you really are 👍🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:51 PM
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Why would you feel vindictive about women not being attracted to nearly every man? It just is the case that women are shamed for being shallow and women are more likely to reject men more harshly. If some woman goes “oh I just ignored him because he was ugly” it makes her sound like she’s a bad person and men would judge her for that and say “ok you could’ve just told him u weren’t interested instead of …”. This approach removes responsibility and allows for women to be more harsh because by ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:48 PM
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There doesn’t. But saying “I rejected him out of fear for my safety, sounds better than I rejected him because he was ugly”. It’s purposely depicted in this fashion so you’re not the bad guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:40 PM
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I’m sorry about your experience and wouldn’t wish it upon anyone. I would be careful when making statements like this though because if it is the case that you encounter someone who is rape-minded, however troubling this sounds, they can be feel incentivized to do so if you display yourself as more sexually forward. It is a common occurrence for women who dress in slutty clothing to get more sexual attention and as a result suffer from more harassment that could open them up to unfavorable scena…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:38 PM
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Not going to write to you in paragraphs to argue about stuff I already talked about because you didn’t feel like reading. Enjoy your day 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:32 PM
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Ok bro enjoy your day
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:30 PM
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Social conditioning, less sexual ideation, and less of a positive weight on physical traits unless they are in the extremes. Men can extract a lot of sexual value out of an average woman but it isn’t the same vice versa. Physical attraction is known to lead to rose tinted glasses and a higher value on non physical traits and because the initial push isn’t there for women because they don’t find men attractive to the same degrees as men they aren’t as motivated to pursue relationships in general …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:29 PM
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If u said the moon, was made of grated cheese, and were attempting to explain why that’s the case. Yea, I would listen to you. Why? Because it could be the case that the moon is made of grated cheese even if initially it seems outlandish. If you have a valid and sound argument that follows why wouldn’t I believe you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:26 PM
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I mean it’s fine. It’s the second time I’ve been cheated on. It just is what it is. Onto the next woman we just pray she’s finally a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:24 PM
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Old tag. My ex gf cheated on me. I had added it up to show that despite my takes I wasn’t repulsive to women bc I constantly got “u are incel so everything u say is invalid ” comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:21 PM
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Great, thank you for being so tolerant 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:20 PM
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You say that women should have sex with you on the first date to show that they are attracted to you so that you don't waste money on a drink on a date. If they’re not putting in any perceivable kinds of effort. If a girl is I’m not going to expect her to sleep with me on a first date. Why would a woman do that? Because she wants to. Women can be attracted to men and like sex as well. These feelings are not exclusive to one gender. What she gets is a pleasurable experience that she wants to enga…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 09:57 PM
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Can you try and explain my argument to me after reading the post. Just a simple TLDR, and if u don’t understand I will clarify.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:49 PM
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I don’t want sex. I don’t care about sex. It’s not about swx
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:12 PM
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I just said I’m not wanting sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:11 PM
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It’s not about sex, I don’t care about sex. Sex is nice, sex is fun. It is not the purpose of this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 10:51 PM
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Ok. I can’t tolerate your antics anymore enjoy the rest of ur day 👍🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 07:09 PM
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Bruh 💀. Will you just say you were wrong about me you don’t have to do this BS sophistry. You’re wrong about me saying I would apply this to all women, you’re wrong about me saying the only contribution I think women can make is sex. The sarcasm and mockery are rhetorical tools to take a jab at how stupid the shit is that half of u are saying. Get off ur soap box. This isn’t a real conversation for you. Like bro: “purely logical” stance. If you can’t recognize your own emotional investment here,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 06:50 PM
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There are several issues with this. You don't seem to grasp the concept of supply and demand. I do. When did I suggest that every girl is just going to be ready to drop her pants for u or that there weren’t going to be 40 other guys trying to fuck her. I’m not stupid. What I’m saying is that if ur talking to a secular woman who is not putting any effort into trying to form a connection with u and she does not want to sleep with u, just don’t even do a date. It’s not worth it. I've never seen som…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 06:38 PM
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“Truths about all women” I literally said multiple times that I was talking about two specific types of women on dating apps. Please see the first sentence in the third paragraph. This is all extremely logical. In multiple other comment threads I said this wouldn’t apply to women who put in effort. Instead of exploring why you’re attracting (or pursuing) the kind of women you describe I’m introspective enough to have already processed that on my own. It’s more of a tangential thing more than som…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 05:06 PM
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What you offered is absurd obviously, but I was thinking, in the dating app age, how should people navigate the still existing gender expectations of men paying for the first few dates to show their pursuit, with the easiest than ever access to dates. You shouldn’t. It’s not an expectation that you should uphold. We’re human being we have an effective communication system. You’re saying you’d assume a guy isn’t into u but would u seriously tell me that if I a guy didn’t pay and sent u a text tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:23 AM
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Go on r/tinder and look at the post from women about men making sexual advances. Most of them are titled “why do men 🙄” not, I’m so grateful for honest men like this lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:01 PM
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I’m not using these women for sex. It’s not like I’m dropping them as soon as I get some pussy 😭. If they don’t want to have sex anymore I respect that and I’m not going to hold that against them. The only thing I will hold against them is if they are going out with me with no intention of ever taking me seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:24 AM
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Yeah. If she is genuinely putting in effort and is not putting all the work on me to carry the relationship and I can see that she is trying I probably wouldn’t even use this “litmus test”. My first relationship I didn’t do anything sexual with her at all because of really don’t care about sex. Even if she wanted to wait until marriage and I genuinely enjoyed her as a person and it felt like she valued me I would wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:22 AM
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You don’t need to explicitly say the word hate it’s what you’re implying with ur statement. You bitch about women so much…(surely you don’t like them so)… just stop dating. It wasn’t just a random string of words that you pulled together with no reason. You having a husband doesn’t mean shit. Is someone not racist because they have a black friend? The way you talk about things just shows a complete lack of empathy and understanding. There’s no way in ur right mind as someone even pretending to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 09:30 PM
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and you don’t see the irony because?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 09:21 PM
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and if u don’t ask her out for drinks then what happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 09:18 PM
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I won’t ask to split the bill, I will ask for sex. When did I say I wouldn’t ask for sex. The entire post was about doing just that. Why do you people feel the need to make shit up to feel better at ur vitriol that stems from my lukewarm take that early on in relationships most women don’t want to contribute shit. Most men know this a woman in this thread literally admitted to it and I’m crazy for pointing it out? I’m literally not dating that type of person, I don’t want to, my point is that I …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 09:16 PM
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Make a hinge account and show me what it looks like for u. I would be very surprised if ur experience does not line up with those of the female friends that I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 03:31 PM
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Ma’am I’ve had broke women ask me for $20 within the first hour of meeting them. You don’t have to be rich to be used. Not every woman using someone is simultaneously looking for a sugar daddy. Money is not the only thing I can offer women in a relationship it just happens to be the thing that people don’t get to experience often and it is very easy to cling urself to. Money opens u up to a world of experiences and allows u to do things you couldn’t do without it like eating out all the time or …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 03:23 PM
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This is an ideal situation but at the same time I hope u are an outlier. For attractive young women in my age bracket someone who would split AND offer is basically non existent. It’s not about showing the other person u care in most situations it’s about feeling catered to. Does this guy make me feel better than everyone else I could be talking to rn.I will say though I think a lot of women do purposefully withhold sex though. Mostly for the purpose of safety which is a valid concern but a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:57 PM
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I was going out on dates before I met my ex. I did not go on dates with my ex because it was not possible but I did plan cute stuff for us to do over the phone so she felt valued and cared for. It’s not about gifts, it’s not about money, it’s about nothing at all. In both cases with my exes they would never text first, never pay for shit, never plan shit for us to do. All they would do is just show up when I asked them to. The first one barely did that. The courting phase of my first relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:50 PM
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Yeah begging to get a match with a girl who doesn’t even want him to begin with. Just ask any guy about his conversion rates on tinder they’re basically non existent. The part I’m getting at is that even those women who do not like u will lead u on for fun. These matches were never real matches. If she ghost him on the basis of audacity fuck it she was probably going to ghost him anyway. It’s a recipe to ensure straight men aren’t being used and bread crumbed for female satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:45 PM
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I do enjoy conversation and I do enjoy dates, as long as it’s not with the soulless ppl who put literally no effort in like im talking abt .
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:36 PM
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Why do u think this is about sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 06:48 AM
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Yeah r u gonna tell me how all ur matches are dog shit too?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 06:31 AM
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Oh my bad. Me disliking people’s behavior must mean I also hate them. I’m not seething like u are lol. Just because u hate men does not mean I have to hate women. I’d just prefer that women contribute a little more. But u want to sit here and act like I’m Satan because I’ve acknowledged the fact that most women won’t/don’t split a bill. You are genuinely so insufferable it’s pathetic. “I need women so much”. Yeah oh how horrible that is that I’m attracted to women and I want to be in love and in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 06:29 AM
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OP here, I would exclusively take women out on dates, had a long distance gf who I never did anything sexual with because I was trying to be respectful and non-pushy. I spent money on her all the time because I was simply a giving person. She did not offer back even 0.00001% of the effort or money I put into the relationship and from what I can see this is a normal experience. I’ve only had 1 other gf and she behaved the same way. So me not asking for sex doesn’t really help the matter either. “…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 06:25 AM
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Yeah u are an example of someone who would take it the wrong way. I don’t mind paying I genuinely don’t gaf. But for some reason ppl here want to act like the type of guy who would ask such a question isn’t going to lose their date and however much they date cost. I will say it’s hilarious how it’s always don’t date if ur poor when ur the one expecting someone else to pay for u lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 06:18 AM
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My guy it’s not about money, it’s about being used
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:58 PM
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You just criticized me for caring about money. Then once I told u money wasn’t the problem then u wanted to tell me I had a spending problem. This isn’t criticism these are random jabs at me because you want to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:49 PM
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Re-read until u understand bc me explaining it again isn’t going to help u anymore than it already has. Ur just moving the goal post atp. It’s just not enjoyable to have this kind of conversation where u refuse to understand. If u disagree that’s fine but u actually just don’t even understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:40 PM
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If after all I’ve said what you’re getting from this is $40 is too much why even reply man.? I spent about $200 every time I went on a date with my ex money is not the problem. I don’t understand why so many of u want to warp this into something it isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:32 PM
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Not when I’m talking about being lead on for two weeks though. Why are you conflating to separate parts of the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:29 PM
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Going on a date is not the most intimate thing u can do with a person. You guys just want to argue. You won’t even try to comprehend what I’m saying. When I said getting lead on for two weeks I’m talking about putting an emotional investment in a girl who has no intention of actually going out on a date with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:26 PM
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When did I say anything about social media?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:23 PM
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“Just be fine with being used guys it’s only $40 why do you care bro, not like it suggest the future dynamics of ur relationship or how women see u, lol ur giant baby for whining about money and there is no nuance to ur point at all”. Thanks for your riveting response.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:06 PM
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She should. But that’s my point. You should both have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:48 PM
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I wouldn’t even say this is redpill. Redpill would actually make tell u to go out and make more money and let them use you because that’s your role as a man. I truly don’t understand how my thinking is black and white, maybe if you could explain a bit better I could come to my own realizations or understand your perspective better. If I just wanted to fuck women why would I feel the need to announce this. It doesn’t make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:47 PM
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It’s going great 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:38 PM
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I laid out a very logical argument and then you chalked it up to “maybe, maybe not”. I’m sorry but I refuse to take u seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:37 PM
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Yeah, if they’re going for other women within their league. Most women who are 10s aren’t going to go through with this but that’s kind of also my point most 10s aren’t going to date u anyway. I think a lot of guys are afraid of this approach because of FOMO thinking that “if i was just more respectful maybe she would have taken me seriously”. It feels better to feel like u have a chance regardless of whether u do or not, than to know u don’t have one at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:35 PM
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Until what? I’m desperate enough to pay for a woman’s time or pussy again? If I get to that point that’s how I really know I need to take a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:31 PM
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I would personally rather get a no within 24hrs, than a no with 2 weeks worth of time and emotional investment down the drain, then have to pay for the meal of a girl who is never gonna speak to me again. Think of it this way, this woman has gone on 9 other dates all with men who just paid without asking questions. What do you look like as the sole outlier asking her to pay. Even if she’s completely fine with splitting if all else is equal and ur not better than the 9 other guys she talked to ur…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:29 PM
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Oh no, definitely not. My first like first relationship was long distance and I never pushed anything sexual on her. The reason I ended up with someone so far away is because I was trying to find someone super emotionally compatible with me. That relationship was not superficial on my end at all. I can’t really speak for her though. I date to marry and would not have sex with a woman I’m not genuinely interested in. I’ve gone down that path before and it just wasn’t fulfilling for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:24 PM
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How is this thinking black and white. Can you actually elaborate. You asked me a question and I literally said this method does not guarantee you a gf or someone who won’t use u. It fella like the opposite of black and white to me but maybe from my pov I just don’t see something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:20 PM
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Yeah I guess you’re right, but long term partner wise as long as she’s not a gold digger explicitly using u for cash I don’t think it’s crazy that most women want a guy with money. It’s just not sustainable long term. Men should feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:18 PM
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because she will expect you to use them on her lol. Whether u tell a girl u have money or ur broke most of them are going to sit there silently and start looking at the ceiling acting oblivious when the check comes out. They don’t have to ask and most never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:16 PM
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Ahh yes, so men are incompetent for playing roulette and having to guess whether or not he should ASK her to split the bill. Putting himself in an awkward position and potentially ruining his chances with a girl he wants to be with bc she won’t be forthcoming about whether she is willing to contribute or not. It is quite literally the opposite of incompetency. There is nothing to go off of. You shouldn’t expect ppl to be mind readers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:13 PM
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I explained this in the post. I agree this fail safe isn’t 100% indicative of whether or not a woman will take u seriously but the truth is that sex is an important thing to a lot of people and she will without a doubt take u more seriously and work harder for u than the other guys she has in her phone whom she has basically sacrificed nothing to obtain. There is no investment so she doesn’t feel the need to work for returns. Which tbh is just not what you should want for urself as a man looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:10 PM
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Nah, ima be so real with you I wouldn’t even do that nowadays 😭. It’s just not for me, but I understand why some people might have to live within the constraints of what they can get. I am just over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:07 PM
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By being the type of men that most girls say they despise. Be clear with your intentions, don’t waste your time or theirs. I used to be extremely chaste and I was utterly dumbfounded by the disconnect between what women say online and how they behave. A significant portion of women have been accepting of my sexual comments. I would rather a man lose all 3 matches he had this month because he was too overtly sexual rather than he him getting lead on for 2 weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:06 PM
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Yeah cheap dates aren’t bad per se but they will inevitably lead to most women thinking that you either don’t value them or you’re cheap. Which is fine if it just tarnishes your standing with a lot of women who otherwise would have dated you. Which to be fair, the same thing could be said about sex, I just would rather that than jumping through hoops just to take a woman out for coffee and a walk through the park.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:01 PM
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Yeah it actually sucks but in a country where most men are afraid not to just cave to women who would never offer out of fear that they will be emasculated there is no incentive on either side to stop such a thing. Women like free things and men want to be likeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 08:56 PM
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What do you mean a couple? 78% of women think men should pay on the first date. Statistically more men ask women out than the way around. That is not a couple… I do agree that it’s in his court if she said “we should do something sometime” No tf it isn’t. If a guy posted about how he told a girl “we should hang out” and he was upset the girl didn’t ask for his number or plan a date and get back to him literally everyone would laugh. There is nothing aromantic about a girl asking a guy out casual…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 06:28 AM
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That doesn’t mean everyone does nor does it mean you have to do it every time
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:59 PM
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It is society’s fault because they perpetuate the lie that women don’t care about looks when in reality they are just as shallow if not more shallow than men. Why do you think guys have defaulted to using language like “look at what she chooses not what she says she wants” I’ve genuinely heard women say some stuff like “I don’t care about looks as long as he’s emotionally mature and cares about me that’s enough” when now I know obviously it’s not. Call me stupid for believing it but don’t deny t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:25 PM
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The extent of women frothing over a dude to me was Justin Bieber, and I just assumed girls liked him because he was famous. I posted a comment yesterday abt this but I was scrolling and not even 5 min after u made that reply I found someone doing the exact thing I’m complaining about. https:/np.reddit.com/r/short/s/1NDthIZ292
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:00 PM
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No, I’m saying you can find someone to be in a relationship with. If you want to talk about sex, yeah more people want to do that with you too. I don’t know why women insist on lying and act like everyone they talk to just wants to get in their pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 01:57 PM
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When you are dating someone, you are not doing housework. Most people are not moving in with each other that fast. I don’t think k the emotional investment part is true either
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 01:54 PM
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The ironic part is that you can, as a woman, find your prince by just breathing. You can exist in a grocery store and if someone likes the way you look enough they’ll do the work for you. I also didn’t say anything as simple as breathing. I was told that if you build yourself as a kind person that women will flock to you. Or if you have good hygiene. None of which is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:28 AM
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So you feel comfortable calling it nonsense in another reply but won’t when it’s a direct response to you? Seems like u just want to circle jerk kinda odd and. I was told there were certain things you could do to attract a woman, having a chiseled jawline was never one of them. It’s not nonsense at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:26 AM
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Sorry let me reword that, you’re out of luck if you don’t want to be single. Obviously if you don’t care then it’s fine but if you want a SO then you’re going to have to work harder to get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:54 PM
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When did I say this wasn’t this case?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:32 PM
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Or maybe it has nothing to do with that, and like a lot of women she just has a sense of entitlement. I think what you said is true but you left out a key part. girls will bend over backwards for a guy who is exactly their type. … if the guy isn’t chasing her. If a girl is being chased by a guy who is her type and she doesn’t have to try she probably won’t. Only time I’ve seen this happen is when a frat guy is unsure abt whether or not he wants a relationship or hot dude on tinder is taking a bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:10 PM
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You’re the one who asked for 2 ppl other than ones in this comment section on Reddit. Do u need confirmation from dudes ik irl? Why don’t you just post a poll in a diff community and ask ppl urself? You have to come to terms with the reality that you are claiming that men asking women out on dates and paying for the bill means that most women are lazy and relationships and contribute little— and the fact that you draw line between those two things reveals something a lot more telling about your …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:09 PM
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Or maybe it has nothing to do with that, and like a lot of women she just has a sense of entitlement. I think what you said is true but you left out a key part. girls will bend over backwards for a guy who is exactly their type. … if the guy isn’t chasing her. If a girl is being chased by a guy who is her type and she doesn’t have to try she probably won’t. Only time I’ve seen this happen is when a frat guy is unsure abt whether or not he wants a relationship or hot dude on tinder is taking a bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:03 PM
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What if her type is a guy who tricks and does everything for her, she’s still not going to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:43 PM
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Well at first it was a question, the mods made me make it a debate flared post and made me assert something. Tbh I didn’t want to make a claim. Just curious if it was actually the case and most people seem to agree it is. Why don’t you read the other comments and take a tally of who agrees with u vs me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:43 PM
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I’m not saying they’re awful I’m just saying that is what is normal and I don’t have a choice but to deal with that type of behavior even if I wanted something different. I am doing this out of survival lol. I tried to bungee jump with a non elastic cord around my neck because of how lonely I was. I would cry myself to sleep because of what it feels like to be truly unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:03 PM
1

I didn’t say anything about a 3 in 4. I will say that women on average do less than their male partners do for them. They expect more out of their men. In the first post a guy wants to enter a new job because he thinks it will make him happier and his wife berates him because she doesn’t want to be the breadwinner because it will affect her status. Even accused him of being a creep. https://www.np.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/s/o90gdMxuYu https://www.np.reddit.com/r/dating_advice/s/QkqMF3M0er htt…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:55 PM
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Chores aren’t the only way to contribute to a relationship and have little to do with a romantic aspect of doing something to show your partner you care, it’s more so done out of necessity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:54 PM
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That’s not what I said at all. I’m just explaining why people would get out of chores if they can, I’m not saying that people always get out of doing chores. I know that in most marriages women do more chores but that has to do with how task are delegated more than anything else. Chores are easy but someone may not have time to do them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:30 PM
1

Ok so then you just agree but blame men for the problem? This will never happen btw for the simple fact that men desire women more so women have more leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:27 PM
1

I wrote a post acknowledging that it is the case. Not once did I say it was a problem. I’m not going to lie and say I wouldn’t appreciate being taken out and receiving gifts but I’m not saying it’s so wrong that I would leave someone over it. What you’re describing is a relationship where two different people value different demonstrations of love to each other. No, what I described is a woman who gives her partner sex and thinks that is enough to make up for all of the things he provides for he…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:25 PM
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She pays attention to me. Like I said I was an incel before. I approached thousands of women and they all rejected me. I’m just grateful I have someone to talk to who acknowledges my existence. She’s very cute and it makes me happy that sometimes I can make her happy. It’s good enough that someone opens my good morning text and says “ i love you too” when I tell her I love her. I like being able to be there for someone because it makes me feel good knowing I can help her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:10 PM
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I didn’t equate them. It’s an analogy to illustrate the problem with your advice. A lot of men would much rather be in relationships where they are not valued as much just for the reason that they are valued at all. Lmao, do you not realize that last sentence is “just get more women to like you”. This is one of my biggest problems. You give this advice like your world view simply snaps into mine. More than half of the my country’s single female population don’t even want to speak to me because I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:06 PM
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because people would rather opt out of a laborious task if the option is available to them regardless of difficulty. If you didn’t have to do something you slightly disliked even if it was just slightly, you wouldn’t do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:00 PM
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I say it’s not so common in marriage mostly because I hear about women doing a lot in the home to make their partners life easier, *but before you have kids and you’re doing someone else’s laundry what are you doing? * ** That story continues even when people are official. Who plans the majority of the dates in relationships? Who gets taken out on Valentine’s Day and anniversaries? Who pays for the elaborate gifts on such occasions and puts the rose petals on the floor? Who gets random flowers a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:57 PM
1

Not putting up with this means being single. If you don’t do it someone else will and you’re the person who ends up out of luck. When men stop putting up with this type of behavior the only people who suffer are men. One of the last dates I was on before I basically walked away myself had the same dynamic. I just moved to a new city and didn’t know shit about the place yet the woman I was dating who grew up there expected ME to plan all of our dates. I was supposed to know where all the cool new…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:47 PM
1

If the majority of men are suffering from this “you problem” is it really a “you problem” both of the guys in this thread you’ve talked to about this you’ve accused them of it being their problem. Don’t you think that’s disingenuous in the slightest?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:43 PM
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That’s the entire point, most men aren’t lucky enough to have high enough standards to be with a more assertive woman. If men had the same mindset as women when it came to forming and maintaining relationships the vast majority of men in relationships would not be in relationships. The majority of women don’t have to do anything but be seen and someone will go talk to them. Someone will offer to take them out to dinner. The fact that relationships form that way create a standard for how the rest…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:42 PM
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Yeah because she’s that type of girl. I don’t know what’s sad about that because I don’t necessarily have a problem with it. It’s not something I’m willing to fight over until it causes the destruction of our relationship because I value other things more than getting a gift or her taking me out. Like I said in other comments she is not the only woman I have talked to who behaves this way. Every single girl I’ve gotten close to forming a romantic relationship with has been this way. It’s not a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:29 PM
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You can vet all you want but if there is no alternative then you take what you can get. If you tell a homeless man who can’t afford food “maybe you should think harder about eating out the dumpster” and his only alternative is to starve, no matter how hard he critically analyzes the pros and cons of dumpster diving for food that’s what he is going to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:22 PM
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But it’s not a “women who don’t care” thing. There are women who genuinely think that are entitled to this type of behavior and don’t think the responsibility lies on them because they have 2 X chromosomes. I don’t know a single relationship where a woman cares about her man, and she just does nothing. No true Scotsman fallacy . You can’t just say people who actually care try when there are plenty of people who love and care about their partners but don’t do anything to benefit them whether it’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:18 PM
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When did I ever mention tinder on my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:44 PM
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Dude I’m an ex incel. Last time I complained she threatened to break up with me. If I get broken up with then it’s extremely hard for me to find someone else who will take me. I’m replaceable and she’s not. I love her and I’m happy not getting anything else for the rest of my life because no one gave me anything before.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:15 PM
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I didn’t mention my girlfriend a single time in my post. I could’ve made the same exact post before we met, plenty of men in the comments agree that they’re expected to foot the bill and do things for their partner they will never be the recipient of just because they’re men. Even in relationships men plan and pay for more dates. Even in relationships men are expected to be the givers and providers not receivers. Women in the comments are genuinely arguing they make their men feel loved by sleep…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:26 PM
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Is that what I said my conclusion was based off of, or did I write an entire post with multiple paragraphs telling you exactly what my conclusion was based off of?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:14 PM
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Are there not adult women who spread misinformation about how the bar is so low when in reality it isn’t? Even in books and movies the girl ends up with the nice guy. it’s the plot of half of the newer Disney princess movies. There’s some rich extremely handsome prince who turns out to be a jerk and she ends up with the guy who saves/helps her instead. Just my experience but women were never presented as being shallow to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:12 PM
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I was told being kind was enough
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:05 PM
2

Most women aren’t sexually attracted to other women…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:02 PM
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Uh no not at all. I was told countless times growing up that as long as I was kind to women and a gentleman women wouldn’t be able to resist me. That women aren’t as shallow as guys and they choose whoever has the best personality. This is not true. Literally the other day I was in a thread with some guy saying it will be easy for you to date if you have good hygiene and have a hobby. People lie all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:01 PM
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It’s not just courting though. It’s the constructs that allow for courting and how influence the rest of the relationship. Also, if you don’t want people to be flabbergasted then don’t lie to them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:23 AM
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Only people who I can go on dates with are the ones who say yes and show up. No one has showed up trying to take care of me. That’s my reality and plenty of other peoples in the comment section.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:21 AM
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Ok cool, I never said a woman needed me. Women are attracted to men who take charge and lead. The same way men are attracted to women with certain physical attributes. If a woman doesn’t have those, why does he need her? Women don’t experience physical attraction now? You say “The same way men are attracted to women with certain physical attributes” as if they don’t. The truth is that women are attracted to physical attributes just like men are. Don’t try and use women not being shallow as an ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:14 AM
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How long are babies actually babies? Nobody is having sleepless nights all the way up until their kids are 18. Also if a baby starts crying in the middle of the night I’m pretty sure it’s going to wake up everyone not just the woman. Why do you guys want to act like raising a kid is so much more painful than it actually is. Do you not realize that children have to go to school for the majority of the year? If you have them in extra curricular activities they’re not even home most of the day. Who…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:11 AM
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No, try again. Maybe you should have convos with ppl instead of trying to invalidate what they said before you even critically think abt it. Do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:03 AM
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I’m sorry I don’t know how to put this. This is so stupid. Your logic is “other people lie, so it’s ok if I do” why would anyone want to have a convo with you if you’re being dishonest?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:19 AM
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Do you think more people think men should be providers or women? Who asks the other gender out more? If one party were to pay for a date which one do you think is more likely? Who is more likely to get a candle lit bath and rose petals laid down for them on Valentine’s Day? Hopefully answering those questions will give you an idea that this is not based on a singular post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:13 AM
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Ok, a woman can pace or stop the developpement of a relationship by refusing your advances or not doing anything but thats YOUR priviledge to start anything at all. And a lazy woman has technically less chance to enter a relationship This is just a lie, a lazy woman can go on tinder. Never message a guy first. Never ask a man out on a date. Never pay for her own food. AND SHE WILL STILL GET MORE ATTENTION THAN SOME MEN GET THEIR ENTIRE LIVES. My advice, if a person (man or woman) don’t give that…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:01 AM
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They aren’t driven, not bc they’re low test, but because they risk nothing and only gain by not trying. Like you said they can replace a man at any time they want. If they start trying, then they have to give something up. Why would you give something when you don’t have to and You don’t want to.?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:57 AM
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I already told you I don’t believe any of that status garbage, just like you don’t believe it either. The only people who would benefit from that type of thing are the people flaunt their gf like a trophy and those people normally end up having a negative experience with that because they look cringe. He doesn’t. He gets far more orgasms, far more caring words and attention, more affection, and that lovely status you don’t wanna address. Like I said, I’m sorry if your partner is bad at making yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:54 AM
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She didn’t initiate the next conversation, he went up to speak to her first. She just stood there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:47 AM
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Dude, I don’t know about you but as soon as the kids aren’t toddlers anymore, you honestly honestly don’t have to do that much. Especially if you’re raising your kids to be independent. I was seven years old, making myself dinner because my mom was working a lot. By the time kids are in school, you don’t even see them for the majority of the day. There’s no mess being made the most you have to do is make breakfast and dinner and clean up on the weekends after the kids have made a mess because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:44 AM
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So the men who use those types of correlations are arguments are wrong and we shouldn’t just believe them. Your argument that other people are allowed to be wrong. You should just lie too?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:41 AM
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My guess is that you receive flowers before having kids. Also most people who have kids don’t do it just because their husbands asked them to it’s because they want kids too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:39 AM
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I was simply saying that a lot of women complain about how much they have to do after getting married. I was simply asking what are you doing for your partner before you’re taking care of kids and doing house work. The two things I see the most often complained about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:37 AM
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DM me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:11 AM
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She’s not the first girl I’ve spoken to. Every single girl I’ve spoken to has been like this. She’s not unique in that sense. I’ve already talked to her about it and absolutely nothing will change. I’m also ok with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:00 AM
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Never met a woman eager to pay for her own food, let alone mine lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:58 AM
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It’s just rough as a dude period. A girl will reject u even if she likes u and finds you attractive just because her friends are nearby. I’ve had girls reject me because of my height countless times even when they liked my personality. Most dudes don’t care about height unless they feel like they’re going to be demeaned by others for dating someone taller. Women just 100% are allowed to sit back and let relationships be formed for them. Some don’t choose that option but it’s available to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:41 AM
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Yeah I just mean to her. I don’t complain to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:38 AM
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You don’t want to admit that people have different methods of showing and receiving love? If she loves flowers, and gratuitous blow jobs warm your heart, isn’t that a fair exchange? If the alternative to her is loneliness and a lack of warm words, affirmations, and affection, isn’t she adding significantly to your life? No, it’s not a fair exchange. You’re literally saying that he’s doing everything that you do except he does more things on top of that. When I asked you what you do for your boyf…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:33 AM
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It is when men are struggling to find women to date them. You have the option to do nothing or approach a man if you end up not wanting to be single. I have to go speak to someone, no one will ever just come to me. Which means if I go on a streak of rejections I’m out of luck. I have no way of knowing if someone likes me other than some hints that can easily be misinterpreted as someone being nice. You have the upper hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:24 AM
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Fun stuff that in most cases he’s planning, little adventures that in most cases he’s planning, If you don’t like the sex, I’m sorry you have a bad partner. Mentioned the social boosting in a sarcastic way, so I feel like you don’t believe that. So he is giving u everything u give him plus some more?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:13 AM
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What are you talking about ? I lost my virginity to a lesbian who pretended she wanted a relationship with me. Don’t act like things are the way they are because women get used for sex because men will get used for their wallets, emotional , or whatever else the user thinks that he can provide and still have to approach people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:10 AM
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Dude, I’m gonna be 100% honest with you if I could be a stay at home husband and play video games all day as soon as my children reach the age to go to preschool I would take that over anything else. I already cook and clean for myself. If I have to do it for three more people who aren’t even home for 80% of the day I’m OK with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:05 AM
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Dude, nobody said to do all that all she had to say is are you free next weekend? I want to go to x place. Why are you trying to introduce an absurd situation in order to make it look like she’s doing way more work than she actually has to. Why can’t she just do what she expects him to do
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:56 AM
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Wait, you say that but they unironically do. Do you think that women have such a social standard for things that should be expected? The sayings “ if you wanted to, he would”, and “that’s the bare minimum”, exist for reason, right? Women have gotten together and come up with a list of things that they expect to be mandatory when they enter a relationship just because it doesn’t apply to women doesn’t mean it’s not the majority. it’s the same way. The majority of women probably don’t feel the nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:54 AM
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OK, can you give me an example of a single thing that she provides for me that I don’t provide for her like I said you’re just speculating a bunch you don’t know anything about my relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:50 AM
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Yeah, that’s why I did mention it being more variable post marriage but even still I just feel like the responsibility is always on the guy to plan and do things for a girl rather than the other way around. The only instances where I’ve heard this not being is where the guy turns into an absolutely lazy bum after they get married, and the wife is forced to doing or else she ends up a single mother. I’m going to be honest I don’t know a single a girl who has approached more than 5 men and been re…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:49 AM
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Because she’s my girlfriend and I love her lol it’s not like I do these things expecting anything return I just do it because I want to make her happy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:44 AM
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I don’t complain about it because I’m a dude. I was literally never raised to expect anything from a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:44 AM
4

Are you guys only reading the first paragraph?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:36 AM
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I literally have a girlfriend. I still plan everything. When Valentine’s Day comes around I will be expected to plan that too, and anniversaries. Ask before u assume dude. Edit: Lmao did you block me instead of just continuing the convo?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:35 AM
1

There’s a necessity for someone to take a more assertive role and when both are women obviously the only option is for it to be a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:19 AM
1

If a girl actually likes you she sees you as chad
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:37 PM
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You don’t have to be condescending because I’m pretty sure the type of “should” op uses allows the for an option. He didn’t say women had to. Should to me sounds like “you ought to do this thing if you want to be in a healthy relationship”. Not “men have a right to women’s body” which is what the “should” you have a problem with sounds like. I asked a polite question there’s no need to be that abrasive
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:27 PM
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This is not always true. I think a lot of women do want more emotionally intelligent and available men to talk about their feelings with without it being weird. There are some things though that guys do that will be too feminine for them even if it’s as simple as knowing what they want from Starbucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:49 PM
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Yeah but that doesn’t equate to a bad relationship. Bad communication is something that can help lead to an unhealthy relationship with some people but it doesn’t mean that these people have bad relationships. It might not be a good relationship for you but it can 100% work for others
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:54 PM
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What do you think should means?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:45 PM
1

Why, because you wouldn’t do it? That’s not a good metric.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:37 PM
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Ma’am if you want to interpret the words differently for both genders then do so but I can’t have a conversation with you if you yourself are going to load the words with a connotation then then spin that back on me and say I’m doing the same. I did not once use the word shallow as an insult A man doesn’t have to give an answer for not approaching because it’s a non-action. Does it make more sense if I ask you “why didn’t you slap me in the face” or “why didn’t you gouge out my eyeballs”? No, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:04 PM
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Ok… I never said you didn’t make the first move. I just said you would make the second move. Yes I would date these women. Asking this question to a man is like asking a man would you date a woman who didn’t ask you out first, it feels like a stupid question. Most men understand that dating wise a lot of women don’t want to do shit. A lot don’t very clearly reciprocate interest and honestly 9/10 early on even if she isn’t saying no, early on a woman in one way or another a woman is making you fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:55 PM
2

Why do you want to oversimplify this and not acknowledge this with the nuance that it needs. There are many women who initially said no but are now married to men who were persistent enough to be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:47 PM
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Huh… what are you talking abt??? Yes it is shallow but there’s nothing wrong with being shallow. How have I shown even in the slightest way that might react poorly to rejection?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:59 AM
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I’m confused are you saying this doesn’t happen? I can send DMs with a girl I got in a confrontation with and she literally says things like “women aren’t shallow like men are”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:58 AM
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The only reason there is a double standard is because women lie and perpetuate the idea that 90% of the time they reject someone it’s because they’re a bad person to seem like a saint more honesty is better for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:45 AM
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It has nothing to do with being dumb or the dehumanization of women and more to do with a lack of experience. They view women as humans, just as humans that are vastly different than them. “Women can’t be shallow like men”, “women aren’t sex hungry like men are”, “women care about x thing more than men do”,etc. These men have been taught that women are vastly different. You have to realize that when everyone tells you that is the truth you will believe it. I’ll even say to these women, “the bar …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:37 AM
2

Yes, why would this be different for specific genders? Like I said nothing is wrong with being a little shallow
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:26 AM
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Believe it or not as crazy as this sounds just because you make the second move it does not mean that every other woman will. I’ve met some women who have explicitly said “no” and got upset that the guy didn’t keep trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:57 PM
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Shallow because it’s superficial boing being made. I don’t know why as humans we started to put out this idea that shallow/superficial are bad, because a lot of the time it’s things that matter whether it’s physical attraction or financial security. It’s just shallow. It’s not a bad thing. It’s just shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:08 PM
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Well then that’s that. People shouldn’t judge her for that but some might. In my experience women aren’t really honest about how shallow they are though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:49 PM
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It’s not the fact that you’re rejecting that’s the problem it’s the fact that you lie about why you’re doing so as an attempt to demonize the other person so you have no responsibility for the action. If you simply say you rejected him because you though he was ugly people might call you shallow and look at you as the person who is wrong. But when you present this with “i rejected him because he was a bad person” there’s no room for anyone to judge you, and everyone will judge him instead. It’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:51 PM
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I also like to add that a lot of the time “nice-guys” are also just people who believed lies they were told. The idea that women just date people who are nice has been spread forever and some ppl really think that if you’re a kind person who holds open doors then girls will swoon over you. When the reality is women will gladly settle for men who aren’t kind at all. It just leads to a lot of confusion and the oh so common “I don’t know why girls don’t like me I’m nice”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:48 PM
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