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Meh
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 12:29 AM
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Such as? And how?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 11:42 PM
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It all depends on the situation. I barely consider what happens at bars “approaching” because I often just get myself in conversations with women without any means of “approach.” In the daytime I’m actually reaching out to women directly more. In general though I don’t really have an approach. Or at least not overtly. If I bump into a woman I’ll say sorry, and if she’s cute I keep talking. Things like that are my usual MO.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 05:10 AM
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Lol k
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 03:52 AM
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Neither does a fulfilling marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 10:48 PM
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A liability for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 07:56 PM
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100% of divorces happen for a reason. No divorces happen between couples who are compatible and communicate their needs to each other. So that’s why I’d marry. If you feel it’s not good for you, then great. But to pretend it’s a universal law that all men would be better without women is living life with blinders.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 07:55 PM
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Divorce isn’t just a thing that happens though, it’s not like a chance occurrence. And as far as the #metoo thing goes, isn’t the main way to avoid it just, I don’t know, not harass a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 06:06 PM
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I don’t get where the joke is
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 05:21 PM
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What about the women who want to share your hobbies? Or who like your friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 05:20 PM
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The risk of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 05:20 PM
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I love how you’re so eager to respond until you’re proven wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 06:06 AM
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Yeah, I have. And i think it’s quite silly. In my real world experience it doesn’t match up at alllllll.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 10:36 PM
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You should really stop lying. It’s getting old. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/86eegx/comment/dw4f4es
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 02:11 PM
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Your initial comment to the initial statement mentioned nothing of obesity. Don’t lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 06:11 AM
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Let’s make one thing clear: you initially received criticism for claiming it doesn’t count or is a big deal if the woman isn’t attractive. Only later did you qualify obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 12:05 AM
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Become the American Standard you know you can be
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 11:05 PM
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I mean it can feel like a bummer. Bad wording.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 11:04 PM
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I know it's hypocrisy because I wouldn't love a fat/ugly woman for who she is "on the inside" either. I mean, that’s it right there. It’s not a bad thing, attraction is visual. Humans are shallow. It’s a bummer, but you’re more attractive and therefore get more attention. Same with the fat girl who loses weight in her 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 09:11 PM
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It’s a quote from The Office
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 09:09 PM
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It’s a quote from The Office
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 09:09 PM
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be real here...how hot? Your original point seemed to make attractiveness a qualifier to number of women he had sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 09:05 PM
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Fair on both counts, but that straw man is one that you seemed to build. My argument is that the attractiveness of a woman doesn’t negate whether the consensual sex happened, which seemed to be the original point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 05:17 PM
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Right. It depends on whether your happiness is dependent on who you are portraying yourself as. I know that I play a part to get what I want on occasion, and it’s because I choose to and I’m happy doing it. But I know if I want to pick up certain types of women I have to act a certain way, and while I might find the women attractive I wouldn’t be happy acting that way. It’s about finding that medium
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 03:09 PM
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Depends on who your true self is and how insecure you are. If your true self is the best version of yourself, then obviously it’s better to just be who you are. If your true self is someone that doesn’t get you as far as you’re trying to go (introverted when you want to go into sales, awkward when you want to get dates, loner when you want to have friends) then it’s in your best interest to work on that. The caveat is if you are uncomfortable not being someone who you feel is a false version of …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 02:45 PM
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Right, but that has nothing to do with your college major. Only with your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 01:41 PM
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What, in your mind, is acting like a king?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 01:41 PM
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They’re treated like children.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 12:20 PM
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That’s a false equivalency. Sex with women is sex with women. There is no woman you can have sex with when it doesn’t count. Your analogy makes sense if the scenario is he said he had sex with lots of women but it was only 5. But apparently the qualifier is who you find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 12:14 PM
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Unless they didn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 12:12 PM
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Do you know this? Is it always the case where they’re a stability option or is it something else? Is it someone who grew into their looks? Is it someone who knew how to start taking care of themself after graduating? Is it someone who stopped being awkward and got more confident?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 02:54 AM
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“Most everyone.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 02:53 AM
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Is having sex with a woman you don’t think is unattractive somehow not actually sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 02:51 AM
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how hot? Negates pretty much your whole argument
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 08:21 PM
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First, being in CS/engineering isn’t some lady repellant. Being socially awkward/unkempt is. Now, generally are those in tech fields generally worse with women? Yes, but to say that men in engineering/CS leave college as virgins is hilarious to me. Second, anyone looking for companionship will get more desperate as they get older. Most everyone settles, that’s just a fact of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 08:21 PM
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Eh, no. I wouldn’t say that. At least I didn’t get that impression. One particular girl I’m thinking of is someone I’m still close with, and she’s not going to bullshit me. I made her finish just fine PIV. We don’t have sex anymore, so there’s no reason for her to continue telling me she doesn’t get off as easily from clitoral stimulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 08:24 PM
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I mean, I don’t know if I’d say “quite rare.” My list isn’t long by any means and I’ve been with two. Moreover, there are other women who just altogether liked it, even if they didn’t necessarily cum from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 08:22 PM
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No, he’s not. The world doesn’t work like that at all, generally. Has this kind of situation happened before? Maybe. But to pretend it is any semblance of the norm is egregious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 08:21 PM
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I would say it’s easier in general, since most of the pleasure that women experience is with the clitoris. But it’s not a definite. I’ve been with women who insist on PIV because it’s easier for them to cum that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 02:52 PM
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A real basement dweller, from what I can gather. Dude obviously has a lot of fears about how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 02:50 PM
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No, I mean an abortion. An abortion isn’t a side effect of too much x or not enough y. It’s a procedure that a woman chooses to undergo. No, you don’t always choose to get pregnant by having sex. Preventative measures may be taken to avoid it (birth control, condoms, pull-out) that don’t always work. Pregnancy is not a definite result of having sex. Getting fat is l, however, a definite result of eating more calories than you work off. Your false equivalencies are off the map, my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 02:09 AM
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The fact that we’re comparing men today to the plight of black people in the 1960s is ludicrous as it is. I don’t think I’m going to entertain this thought any more than I already have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 02:04 AM
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Again, there were restaurants, water fountains, seats on the bus that were whites only. This is incredibly well documented. There were schools that black people couldn’t attend, and yet they were required to take literacy tests to vote according to some states’ laws, which wasn’t deemed unlawful until 1965.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 10:00 PM
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It literally was not equal, law or not. There is no situation like that between men and women today.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 08:48 PM
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...but they didn’t have the same rights. There were things they literally weren’t allowed to do, restaurants where they literally weren’t allowed to sit down and eat. That’s a terrible example.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 02:45 PM
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Not really. The man is responsible for the child’s life if the responsibility has not been relinquished. As in, a man is not responsible for a baby put up for adoption. Similarly, the woman is still responsible for the life of the child unless relinquished to another caretaker. Your argument illustrates limited understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 12:44 PM
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Again, you make fine points, but at this point the discussion is based on assumption. You’re assuming one usage of right, I’m assuming the other. So we’re not having the same debate
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 12:07 PM
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All three of these are terrible terrible examples. An abortion isn’t something that just happens. A woman chooses whether to have it or not. In fact, your food example is the worst one because you absolutely do choose how fat you get by eating more. An abortion is not a possible consequence of pregnancy without the choice of the mother. It is more in her hands, because the pregnancy affects her body.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 12:05 PM
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The woman has the right to choose what happens to her body. While, yes, the baby cannot be there without the sperm of the man, the body housing the pregnancy is the woman's alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 02:43 AM
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I'm not gonna dig around, but thanks for the offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 02:40 AM
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How do you know what usage they were using? I get what you're saying, and your argument is a good one, but I'm looking for the rights that women have that men do not. There don't appear to be any beyond biological differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 01:00 AM
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You posted no links to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 12:58 AM
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The pregnancy is hers. As much as I hate to parrot the slogan, it is her body, and what she does with it is the choice for her. If the man insists that the abortion not take place, does that not infringe on her right to abort?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 12:58 AM
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He used the word rights. To me that should be interpreted literally. Now you're making it symbolic?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 11:55 PM
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You mentioned "circumcision," which I'm not really following your logic on what that means as a legal right. I also said besides the draft, and your hospital room right isn't one either. List the legal rights that women have that men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 11:53 PM
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Does the pregnancy not primarily affect the health and body of the woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 11:49 PM
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I said the original comment, as in the one you replied to. What legal rights do women have that men don’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 05:49 PM
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What are these legal rights? The original comment said besides the draft. A patient not allowing a visitor in the room is a right that everyone has.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 09:33 AM
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The vast majority of feminists recognize that consequences exist and are necessary. There are self proclaimed feminists out there that think women should get a free pass just like there are people fighting for equality that think that black people should get a free pass. Those people are disillusioned. Have a conversation with a few real life feminists and you won’t hear a lot of talk about ridding women of consequence
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 09:30 AM
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I’m not following that one...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 09:14 AM
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Do you have the science behind the claim that more testosterone = taller/broader man?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 09:14 AM
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I’m glad that you’ve taken the good aspects of TRP and made it your own. But to call the angry RP posters a loud minority is not genuine. They are very much a loud majority. Unless there’s another congregation I’m not seeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 01:05 AM
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Woof, very much not the same at all. Islam is very much a religion of peace and violence is denounced as a whole by the community. If you go to a congregation at a mosque you won’t hear anything about violent jihadism. It appears you’re very out of touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 11:36 PM
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How does testosterone relate to bone structure?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 09:20 PM
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I would not call that the average man at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 09:19 PM
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and I disagree. The core of RP, from what I see, goes beyond the self improvement diatribe. You can tell me it’s not until you’re blue in the face, but regular top posts say otherwise. Therefore, the core is BS. If you’re telling me the core is “find your faults, improve yourself, seek happiness, feminism is fine,” then I agree that itself is not BS, but it doesn’t seem to be the core of RP
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 09:17 PM
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Fundamentally, I disagree. Improving yourself, accepting feminism, being a more attractive person, is not a new thought. That’s what everyone does and thinks and wants to be. If you’re saying that’s all TRP is, it’s not unique. If you take the added flavor (the “plate spinning,” AWALT, dread game, etc) then you’re getting to BS territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 06:03 PM
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Me: Are you saying the core principle of TRP is self improvement and being responsible for your own happiness? Or does it have to do with feminism? You: Both, it is about self improvement in the context of attracting women. Me: (In reference to your response)...what you just wrote has nothing to do with feminism. You're being totally inconsistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 05:17 PM
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Do you define being a man by his physical appearance?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 04:43 PM
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Women not necessarily wanting to date their hookup is unsurprising. As much as the opposite is talked about, it’s incredibly common for women to just want to get off. The reason I suspect it’s not as prevalent with men is that women generally require a bit more effort from the man to get off, and generally hookups won’t give that effort, so they'd rather have a night alone than a night of okay-at-best sex. I bet men are unhappy because drunk sex can be sloppy. There’s less likely to be emotion/p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 07:15 PM
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You said the red pill core philosophy includes “a little of both” self improvement and feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 07:10 PM
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Spicy meme mate
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 05:23 PM
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I said red pill is not unique because up until this conversation I understood that the core principle of it was improving ones self to be more attractive to women, and that it’s your own responsibility. This was confirmed by other people I’ve spoken with as well as once, by you, in this conversation. Only now is feminism in the loop.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 05:21 PM
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Why is a woman being more dominant a fucked up pairing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 03:46 PM
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this quote still shows that the core principle is that happiness is your own responsibility, and feminism is an added, weird clause. This paragraph wouldn’t be any different than if it were saying “men, our happiness is our own responsibility. Black people have the right to pursue happiness.” If you took out every mention of feminism, does the overall meaning of the paragraph change? Does the theme change? Because it doesn’t appear to me that it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 12:24 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 03:03 AM
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But what you just wrote has nothing to do with feminism. It is about self improvement with the side goal of attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 02:46 AM
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Men can’t look androgynous?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 12:07 AM
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Don’t need it, been doing all right without it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 12:06 AM
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What does that have to do with feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 12:06 AM
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It’s not that uncommon for an average man to get laid multiple times. Being in the right time, right place, and having basic charm can get you places no problem. I can’t think of a movie that is an unrealistic representation of the sex life of an average man. Do you have examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 08:46 PM
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Are you saying the core principle of TRP is self improvement and being responsible for your own happiness? Or does it have to do with feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:44 PM
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It’s everywhere. Search the idea that happiness is your own responsibility and it’s in every single self help book you can get your hands on. If you’re moving the goalposts by including feminism and other specific verbiage you’ve already lost
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:45 PM
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Holy shit your worldview is beyond warped
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:08 PM
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Holy hell, no. That’s the furthest thing from my mind. I’m sorry that you have had bad experiences, but to pretend all men would molest a woman in a “no rules” scenario is looney tunes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:06 PM
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I would hardly consider this a rare mindset. Men who think like this are a dime a dozen. A good friend of mine looks and acts like the kind of guy who would have sex with any warm body he could, but when an opportunity literally was presented to him once he walked back downstairs and said “no, man, that’s fucked up” when someone asked if he had sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:04 PM
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Sorry. I’m on a debate sub and I assume people replying to me are refuting points. Happiness being our own responsibility is something I 100% agree with. I just can’t attribute it to TRP at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:01 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 01:48 PM
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I enjoy it. I feel completely in control, and it’s fun to make the woman squirm. Every so often I get a woman that tells me “you don’t have to do that” and I can confidently say that it’s because I want to. I find it attractive making a girl orgasm. Most women I’ve been with either can’t finish from PIV alone or, admittedly, I don’t last long enough for them to. So because I want to get her off, giving head is a great alternative, and it prolongs the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 01:47 PM
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Glad that’s happening then. Betters my odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 01:44 PM
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So you go to work, and then go home and don’t talk to women? That’s on you then. You’re actively not seeking out women in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 12:30 PM
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Doesn’t matter who agrees and who doesn’t. The fact is that it’s what’s being perpetuated in TRP sub and therefore is associated with the ideology. You’re essentially just cherry picking the good parts and showing them off to say “this is it! This is what it is!” while willfully not acknowledging the overwhelming sourness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 12:29 PM
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I’m not talking about you. I’m talking about what I’ve seen in the red pill universe get talked about and upvoted many many times. You don’t have to believe it yourself, but to deny it’s existence in the plane is ignorant
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:52 AM
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There is no “most important quality” for women as a whole. To pretend that being honest and sensitive is all it takes is ridiculous, just like to pretend being alpha and dismissive is ridiculous. The red pill seems to preach what you’re saying, that certain traits are “beta” and certain traits are “alpha,” and the right combination is what you need to be irresistible as long as you pass “shit tests.” As if woman sex is a safe to crack. It’s insanity to me. Women are attracted to different men. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:36 AM
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Aside from online, where do you talk to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:41 AM
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That’s not a red pill principle. That’s just life. You can’t say something like “bosses like good employees” and pretend you’re projecting some new great philosophy. That’s how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:18 AM
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As in many of the principles I’ve seen posted on the sub, the whole thing regarding “female nature,” the whole AWALT bs. Not a lot of it is very realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:07 AM
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Yes, but my in person interaction is not decreasing as a result. As long as you’re out, you will see other people. There will never be a point in your lifetime when you will be out at a grocery store, or a bar, or a restaurant, and be the only person there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:24 AM
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That’s where we disagree. People can and will get by more conveniently with cars/computers, and will often never need to encounter wood block printing or horseback riding through means other than hobby. People will always meet in person unless actively avoiding it. People will flirt and meet and date. Comparing this with horse-based transportation is lunacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 11:08 PM
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Oh yeah 100% they are. That’s not to say that there is nothing said that’s correct. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 11:06 PM
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They aren’t “just that.” Meeting people in person is always, and will always be, an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 09:13 PM
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I mean what’s the point of you asking me about the generalizations?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 09:12 PM
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Do what are you working towards with the generalizations?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:24 PM
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I’m not saying online dating isn’t some myth. I have a lot of experience online dating. What I’m saying is that how people are judged through their dating profile is not reflective of how people are judged in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:22 PM
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The original question is about an absolute, not a generalization. So in this case, no we don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 04:31 PM
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How is flirting necessarily objectifying? How is asking a woman out or back to your place not feminist friendly? This reads like someone who just isn’t good at talking to women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 05:00 PM
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So what was the context that led to the assumption that she hasn’t been slapped and degraded by a high smv man?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 11:46 AM
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Whether it’s true or not, it’s again judging pictures and words, not real life interaction. It is not reflective on how things work in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 05:09 PM
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I’m talking percentage wise, about the study that women only find 20% of men attractive or whatever. The online study is not reflective of real world attraction levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 04:35 AM
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So...then the online study is not reflective on the real world then, since guys might have terrible profiles?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 02:34 AM
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Okay and if a woman says she’s into getting slapped and degraded, do you doubt her similarly or do you just take her word for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 02:33 AM
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So what was the context when the woman who said twice that she wasn’t into it that led you to continuously doubt?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 11:42 PM
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Okay great, we agree. How does that translate to the real world then?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 11:13 PM
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Skeptical about what? That she knows what she likes sexually more than you do? Take it this way: if someone immediately told you she was into being slapped, would you be skeptical? Or are you only skeptical when someone diverts from your idea of how the world works?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 11:12 PM
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HEY WHAT’S THE GODDAMN RELEVANCE ALREADY
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 09:55 PM
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Man, you really can’t accept that some women may not like your style of sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 09:54 PM
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It reflects attitudes regarding online profiles. Who’s to say men notoriously make shitty profiles? Because I gotta tell ya: I know a lot of good looking men who take real dumb pictures for their tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 09:50 PM
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There are very few instances where one tinder message leads to sex, but I’ve seen it happen to a guy who I would in my own biased opinion say is uglier than I am. Everyone puts in some sort of effort, be it long term (getting in shape, buying the right clothes) or short term (knowing what to say and when). Nobody has an effortless time. I’d like to see this research. I am friends with plenty of guys who are rich and/or fit. They have an active sex life, but even they will have weeks of dry spell…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 09:49 PM
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I think that social media development has made it easier for the average man to have sex, much easier for the attractive men to have sex, and much easier for women to turn down the unattractive men. Based on nothing but my own theories, unattractive men are having a much harder time with apps like tinder/Snapchat. However, despite what people might say, it’s actually a lot easier for the average man now. Obviously if a very attractive man on tinder matches with five women, and those five women e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 05:30 PM
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I don’t think the OKC study is at all reflective on the sex that men are getting. Obviously what happens online is not reflective of the real world, more than a small degree. If 80% of women are having sex with 10% of men, then those men, mathmatically, have no time to themselves or work, and if you look around, most men have their own lives to keep up with. The average guy has significantly more sex than people may let on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 05:25 PM
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Yeah. Because it’s not a universal attraction. There are many men who like big breasts, you could most likely argue that it’s a vast majority, but not all men are into the same thing. The only thing you can really be confident in is that all straight men like vaginas. It’s a generalization, and if you pick out a random person on the street you’re probably likely to be correct, but it’s not a catch-all
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 02:03 PM
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My blue is not your blue, your red is not my red. Based on my interpretation of red and blue pill, I would be 100% blue, no question. However, what you’d perceive of me may lean either direction. The pills, at their core, are bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 04:17 AM
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Started as guess culture, have become ask culture. I’ve learned that 9 times out of 10, asking does no harm. In fact, people generally appreciate the ask and have no issue saying “yeah that’s fine” or “no don’t do that.” I feel no shame in asking, and I very much value open communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 04:15 AM
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I’d say yeah. I don’t think there is a sexual habit, short of rape/pedophelia, that is unhealthy. Humans are horny, and amount/style of sex, or lack thereof, doesn’t really have any negative connotations to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 04:13 AM
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If a woman wants to lie there and do nothing, I’d rather have the bed to myself. I’m cutting that shit off quick. Any man who is cool with a starfish as long as he cums is more desperate than they think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 08:12 PM
1

So why is my experience in the minority?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 11:11 PM
1

Why is that? Because a sub that is about incels has a user base? How does that put your experiences in the majority? There are many others I know in my shoes. Most recently I watched an open mic where a man talked about still being a virgin, and people liked him. Nobody made fun of him for his lack of sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 05:50 PM
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I can safely say as a man who was a virgin to his mid 20s, I was very rarely, if ever, shamed. I would say I was outright rejected once for being a virgin, maybe 2 more times with a girl I was dating because she wasn’t comfortable being my first (but in both cases we stayed in contact). The shaming, in my experience, is nonexistent in adulthood
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 04:14 PM
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The dieting bit is a terrible analogy, for starters. As for dating advice, it comes down to self awareness, and both men and women aren’t always great at it. I’ve told people that I like when a woman is straightforward and makes a first move, but I’ll only respond to it maybe a third of the time, regardless of physical attractiveness. However, a woman might be super honest about what works for her, but it’s not always going to work on the girl on the other side of the bar. In general, I’ve gotte…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 04:11 PM
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I like women who are direct, and subsequently I have tended to date women who say what they want when they want it. It makes life easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 07:55 PM
1

How does this tie into the “brutal black pill” then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 12:45 PM
1

But you just said people value different things in cars. Some people only care about looks, and some care more about what’s on the inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 03:23 AM
1

So...what you’re saying is that looks matter to some people but not others?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 12:47 AM
1

So you’re saying that some people in relationships value high maintenance?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 09:12 PM
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Whether or not you’re a “good” or “bad” person ultimately doesn’t lead to much difference regarding sex in general. What I have seen among my female friends is this: charming guys get laid. Good guys and bad guys can be charming. Bad guys are shameless enough that they don’t care who gets upset, so by volume they’re more likely to have more sex since they don’t care if they’re hurting the girl from before. However, as far as consistent happy relationships go, the good guys have the edge. I’m fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 07:17 PM
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Yeah but the point of the post is “they’re a lot of work with little upside. I’d rather just put energy into a guy who is more attractive.” Would you rather put in a lot of work to get a beater or a lot of work to have a nice car? She didn’t say no upside because he was ugly, she said no upside because there are no redeeming qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 07:12 PM
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If you leave things up to my interpretation it always depends. I have multiple coworkers with various traits, and a whole myriad of situations they could fall into. I can’t give an answer based on nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 05:35 AM
5

How is this black pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 05:32 AM
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In my experience most marriages begin with both partners being sexually attracted to one another. I don’t know any woman that’s keen to marry a man solely for cash, though I know that does happen. But every woman I know draws the line at “must be sexually compatible.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 08:43 PM
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I think I’m many couples you’re possibly going to find one or both partners saying that the best sex they ever had was not with the person they’re currently with. However, while I would say the same thing at the current point in time (single), I would never want to be in a relationship with my “best sex.” In fact, after knowing more about them, sex with them was no longer attractive to me, so i wouldn’t even want to call them up for side action if I was getting regular, more passionate sex with …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 03:40 PM
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If you say anything, it’s going to be a fact for any dating scenario. It doesn’t make it a universal truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 03:36 PM
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I’m not dropping my child off with any stranger without a more thorough vetting. I’ve known shitty people who are teachers and great people who were strippers, and vice versa. I can’t judge how well they’d watch my kid on occupation alone
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 03:34 PM
1

Then go your own way and let it be. Why waste your time with it? Not only rent free, but your space is overcrowded with people who you're needlessly angry about.
/r/MGTOW14/12/17 09:29 PM
1

So guys attack you and you blame the woman. Rent free man. You’re clearly in an anger phase.
/r/MGTOW14/12/17 07:05 PM
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I never understood the need for prostitutes, so I guess it’s whatever. But she’s still occupying your time indirectly.
/r/MGTOW14/12/17 06:12 PM
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Why are you letting it affect you so much? Just leave man. It’s “go your own way” for a reason. You let this woman live in your mind rent free you’ve lost.
/r/MGTOW14/12/17 05:01 PM
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You also, as you said, left out part of the story. I’m just saying that people don’t pay attention to every individual person all that much, so i feel like to many you’re just a face in the crowd. But again, this is after you posting a partial story.
/r/MGTOW10/11/17 10:10 PM
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I mean, did they want his attention though? Maybe they didn’t care all that much if he talked to them or not. The only interaction was one saying “goodbye.”
/r/MGTOW10/11/17 03:15 PM
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So what are the demands that women are making? Because I don’t think I’ve seen anything like this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 01:28 AM
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What does this have to do with hypergamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 09:19 PM
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I’ve seen them work out, but I️ don’t think it ever takes into account the woman’s feelings, of often the man’s. It’s primarily the interest of the parents to gain status by saying their child is married into such and such family. However, your title is asking about women’s “demands.” Where does this factor into your final question?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 09:18 PM
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I guess you have nothing. Why start a discussion when you have no points?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:42 PM
3

...so what's so unbelievable about it? Why can't you just say where you hear about the sex lives of many women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 06:57 PM
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You're essentially the kid who says "you don't know my gf. She goes to another school. In Canada." Why can't you just say where you're getting so many women telling you about their sex lives? What's so unbelievable about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 06:19 PM
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It seems like a pretty standard casual fling. I don't see him necessarily being particularly red or blue. He's casual about it, and she made it clear initially that she also was. When her feeling got in the mix, so did his, and he seemed to keep separate. He's bouncing back and forth between casual and serious as well. To me it's a pretty standard casual thing where feelings went a little too far. I don't see where the red pill qualities are overshadowing anything here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 08:40 PM
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I mean it's a stock photo. It's not like that's how everyone looks working out.
/r/MGTOW23/10/17 03:10 PM
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You're goddamn right I was
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 10:30 PM
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Jesus. I'm 6'7 and once weighed 185
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 08:06 PM
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Ahhh got it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 01:05 PM
1

Where are you getting "clingy" from OP's post?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 11:47 AM
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I would say they're not mutually exclusive. A woman who is looking for a relationship might have one night stands with a guy she doesn't see as being LTR material. Sometimes a ONS is just because they're looking to get off, and it doesn't necessarily have to be with their dream man
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 12:29 AM
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This is a giant straw man...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 09:59 PM
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Why wouldn't it? Is it that unrealistic that a man meets a woman at a bar, has a fun night, which leads to sex then brunch then a date the next weekend?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 09:57 PM
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Why wouldn't it? Is it that unrealistic that a man meets a woman at a bar, has a fun night, which leads to sex then brunch then a date the next weekend?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 09:57 PM
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Yes, but it is not what you assumed I would say. You based your responses on things I never said, only what you thought I would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 01:50 AM
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You made faulty assumptions, and then when they proved incorrect you twisted the words to make your assumption correct
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 07:32 PM
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I didn't. And when I pointed out that I didn't, you twisted it to fit your narrative. You're almost intentionally giving yourself tunnel vision
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 05:37 PM
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I would disagree. I have found a few girls like this without putting myself in a certain environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 04:09 PM
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I know a few girls like this, one of whom comes to mind since we talked about it this weekend. She's been with only one other man and she's near 30. She just really values an emotional connection a lot more than casual hookups. I wouldn't call it a turn off, but it's intimidating getting with a woman like that. There's just an added degree of pressure, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 04:06 PM
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I'm saying that you assuming what I say before I say it doesn't make you correct, and it's hindering your reading comprehension of the things I actually do write.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 03:04 PM
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Look I think you're really reaching with a lot of things, and pretending you're super aware or something by saying "this is where you do XYZ" but at this point you're just reading what you want to read. You're dismissing points before you even hear them based on your assumptions. It's weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 03:59 AM
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I fail to see how your assumptions were proven here. We haven't discussed this before, and I never said you were a terrible person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 03:44 PM
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My thought is that it's more mature to end it instead of rebel by cheating. To say that he's not at fault for what he himself does after the conflict is ludicrous. Your assumptions of me are silly though. They don't make you look good
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 09:25 AM
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You said he's not at fault for the conflict, which I guess is whatever happens before the cheating. Do you believe a conflict justifies cheating, and possible STD spreading?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 10:41 PM
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You're being unnecessarily defensive from something I didn't even do. I think you're mistaking me for someone else. Why is he not at fault for the cheating he willingly did?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 10:05 PM
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Can you link to when this happened? I don't remember this conversation. I'm aware of dread game, but I still don't see how this man is not at fault for doing what he's willingly choosing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 08:35 PM
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...still here from what? Should I not be? Can you answer my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 07:32 PM
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Why is it not his fault in this context? He's doing the cheating consciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 07:25 PM
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Absolutely. I have several lady friends (and some women I've dated) where we've been super up front with each other. Yes means yes, no means no. It can absolutely happen, but I will say that generally it's not as easy to find as it is with male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 06:31 PM
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The last girl I was dating was because we got along extremely well socially. We laughed at each others' jokes and she was an extremely engaging and sweet girl, added onto being very sex positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 06:28 PM
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I don't think anything about my sex life has "sucked," other than sometimes I don't get it when I want it. Other than that my sexual experiences with women have been perfectly enjoyable. Why do you think that it's not as good? What makes it different, in your experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 06:26 PM
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Yeah I've seen plenty of people do that. Men and women alike.
/r/MGTOW09/10/17 08:32 PM
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Mostly really outgoing, mom-like-attitude women. Those girls who are the first to introduce themselves to a group and try and get everyone included. Generally in the middle ranks of physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 06:35 PM
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Do you think that many people on this sub even know anybody who was a cam girl, let alone dated one??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 06:33 PM
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That's a bit dramatic. Petty people seem to be people who do that. Thinking about it I know a few people who'd say things like that, similar to those who would be bullies in grade school. Those types of people don't amount to much anyway, so they're worth ignoring.
/r/MGTOW09/10/17 06:01 PM
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Who would mock you for repairing something? That seems like such a strange thing to make fun of someone for.
/r/MGTOW09/10/17 03:08 PM
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Have you talked to women about other subjects? I have conversations with women about work and sports and hobbies all the time. Sure there are women who only talk about petty shit, but it's not hard to avoid them.
/r/MGTOW09/10/17 03:06 PM
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I'm just confirming, are you saying that women get raped because there are stronger men that overpower them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 01:55 PM
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So, you're saying that women are raped because they are overpowered by a stronger man?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 07:59 PM
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If it's truth, you should be able to support it with more than "because I said so." You obviously can't, so this is no more than a strong opinion that you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 11:29 AM
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Hence, "trying." I know women who gossip, and that's one of the first they'll say if they're talking bad about a woman, is bringing up a sexual past. To me, it doesn't matter. To the gossiper, they think it might be a bigger deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 10:44 PM
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Gossip is largely done to spread dirt, not praise. Most gossip is centered around how "X is sleeping with Y" or "Z got real drunk and puked in the taxi." It's to bond over something that someone else did that makes them a little more imperfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 09:11 PM
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I notice that you decide not to reply to any comments that refute your point, or at least a very small number, and even those are without any tangible evidence. You should come to a debate sub more prepared with actual arguments and supporting evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 09:09 PM
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I like you you ignore questions that you can't answer because you'd have to explain your irrationality. If I'm 14th best, why is she a repeat customer?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 09:07 PM
1

What makes you so bad to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 04:06 PM
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If your house gets broken into, it's your fault. You should have been home to defend yourself. You have valuable shit in your house, so you were basically asking for it. Learn to have a better security system in place. If you get mugged, learn to fight pussy. Way to be afraid of a gun. What are you, 10? Take responsibility for your physical fitness and learn how to effectively disarm a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 04:05 PM
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Great. Luckily you aren't the one who conducts surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 04:02 PM
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Essentially putting a sexual threat in a negative light will put the original woman in a positive light, thereby decreasing the chance of the person having sex with the person being gossiped about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 11:46 AM
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Why do you assume I was 7th best? What about when she chooses sex with me again? What about when I get a text in the middle of the week planning on meeting up that weekend? Why are your assumptions somehow more grounded than my reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 11:42 AM
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Where is the nuclear anger? Why are most of these articles just with observation? Why are they being published by third tier sites and not plastered over every woman's Facebook? Possibly because most women don't care that much?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 08:44 PM
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I wouldn't agree with that. Average men get casual sex from average women all the time. I know plenty that do, myself included.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 06:11 PM
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Do you have examples of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 06:08 PM
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How many people do you believe this applies to, who are above the point of caring?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 06:07 PM
1

All women stay up late thinking of ways to kill as many men as possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 01:30 AM
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How many women does this apply to, you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 01:44 AM
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The times of success I've had is when the winger makes a good relation to the other person before introducing them to the wingee. I've had guys go up to women for me and say things like "hey, do you think my friend is hot?" Or the dreaded "Settle a debate for us..." Wingwomen, for me, have often set up an initial dialogue like "oh I love your purse" or "oh my god did you go to Central?" Generally women I've been winged for have been more likely to stay and talk to me a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 01:12 AM
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I've had good wingmen and bad wingmen. The good ones have been both male and female. However, if the woman is good at it, she's reeeeally good at it. At least that's my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 08:28 PM
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A woman who orders that is not after sex with a man. She's after sex with a bull moose
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 05:14 PM
1

Would I be intimidated by a large dildo? Likely not. I'm not sure why the link you posted is relevant. That's clearly a baseball bat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 12:14 PM
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What does getting cucked have to do with your daughter? Isn't getting cucked when you let someone have sex with your wife? I'm missing the link here
/r/MGTOW18/09/17 12:23 PM
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That was rarely my experience. Ratios were about 50/50, and they were never picking through groups looking for a ratio. When some houses tried that, they mostly got made fun of for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 02:00 PM
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I've never seen more whining though than from groups like these
/r/MGTOW09/09/17 04:19 PM
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I don't know if I've been with many inexperienced women, or if I have they didn't say. What I can say is that for most women I've been pretty satisfied. The last girl I was seeing was very open about her sexual past, and we only scratched the surface of shit she wanted me to do. I have never seen the whole trope that wild girls will lose their sex drive when they settle. If anything I've found it ramps up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 06:59 PM
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Because I wear condoms. And my male friends use condoms. And my female friends use birth control. It doesn't spur as much outrage because it's completely preventable. It's like getting outraged that you're getting robbed every week when there's a security hub down the street who will install alarms and have patrols come by for an incredibly small fee if you just sign up for it. I've made my case as well, but somehow women can still benefit from a system where men practice safe sex, as you seem t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 03:03 AM
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I don't believe it is a sexist fucked up system. But you seem to, and other men seem to. So, I proposed that an easy way to combat that is to not be part of it, since nobody has ever been forced to provide child support for a child that doesn't exist. "Enslavement of males" is such an overblown statement. If this were the case, why haven't I been enslaved? Why haven't any of my safe sex practicing friends been enslaved? Why haven't any of my safe sex practicing female friends enslaved anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 08:52 PM
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Why is this a fact? There are lots of sources that dictate the average cost to raise a child through 18 years, and that seems to be more that what you're paying. What are the conditions of those children growing up without the father's child support? What is the mother making? How good is the child's living situation? What about education? How many jobs is the mother taking on? Are the kids working? If men would like to avoid this system that supposedly screws over men, then the men should do so…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 07:34 PM
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I gave you numbers. And logical steps on why it makes sense that a woman still uses her income to help raise a child through 18 years. I'm not really sure of your question, that child support fails to raise a child. This is not something I'm arguing. I'm saying that child support that a man may owe does not pay for 100% of raising a child through 18 years. Frankly, my original argument was for people to use protection and they don't have to even get involved with child support at all. You've kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 05:48 PM
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You have no facts, then. Only speculation. Therefore you can't reasonably say that men's child support is paying for 100% of the funds to raise a person through 18 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 02:12 PM
1

I honestly have not laughed harder. "Discussion over." Well done man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 08:32 PM
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What is happening in this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 01:42 AM
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These "biological truths" of women having a lower sex drive, or branch swinging, or going for a certain archetype, i see all the time women not doing this. I see some women doing it, because in the extremely vast spectrum of human archetypes of course some will fit the mold, but I see so many others not fitting this sort of mold of AWALT that I see established. If you would like me to address anything in particular, I'm happy to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 07:16 PM
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You have not once asked for "evidence" of this, but if you had I would point out that that's one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. "Point out to me that's it's easy to spot when someone is enjoying their food." You see how stupid that sounds? That's not something you ask for evidence of. If a woman looks like she isn't into it, stop. If you yourself just aren't sure if she's into it, and you need more "evidence," stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 07:13 PM
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To me, basing interactions around stereotypes, even based on "statistics," is childish and illogical. Human nature is so varying and complex that thinking a person will do X because they're Y is incredibly short sighted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 06:46 PM
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Right, but I'm not seeing it at all, despite my many interactions with women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 06:40 PM
1

Cheers to you. I don't always agree with you, but at least the steps you seem to have taken to get to your points have some logical consistency. Which makes for the times I do agree with you fun to watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 09:35 PM
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That's where we diverge, I think. Countries with more strict gun laws have historically had fewer gun-related fatalities by a long shot. I'd much rather see lives lived than lost. I'm saying this as a gun owner myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 12:23 PM
1

Well good point. I still don't see what a proposed solution would be from you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 11:58 PM
1

Do you have data on those homicides being caused by natives?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 07:21 PM
1

so when the respective state changes their gun law, or we have a national regulation, how do you expect that it won't affect the city? Moreover, what about Alaska? You vaguely mention "natives," what does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 06:13 PM
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I wasn't aware gun control laws don't affect people of different races
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 04:04 PM
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Sure, don't read the links at all. I'll post a couple of bullet points for the top two states: Alaska Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 19.7 per 100,000 Total firearm deaths 2005-2014: 1,401 (10th lowest) Violent crime rate: 635.8 per 100,000 (the highest) Permit required to carry handgun: No Poverty rate: 11.2% (6th lowest) Louisiana Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 19.3 per 100,000 Total firearm deaths 2005-2014: 9,448 (13th highest) Violent crime rate: 514.7 per 100,000 (6th highest) Permi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 03:23 PM
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With limited research, I found an article written in 2015 detailing the states with the least restrictive gun laws: 1) Louisiana 2) Mississipi 3) Arizona 4) Kentucky 5) Wyoming 6) Missouri 7) Alaska 8) South Dakota 9) Vermont 10) Kansas Then, I searched for most gun-related fatalities in America. Here is list of ranked states: 1) Alaska 2) Louisiana 3) Mississipi 4) Alabama 5) Montana 6) Arkansas 7) New Mexico 8) Wyoming 9) South Carolina 10) Oklahoma There's definitely some shared states in thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 03:15 PM
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I'm sure I could, but that's a tall order to give to someone when civilizations already exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 02:02 PM
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American neighborhoods without gun control.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 02:01 PM
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Just because it doesn't happen in your neighborhood doesn't mean it doesn't happen
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 12:57 PM
2

Just because a civilization is built, does not mean its principles are good
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 12:56 PM
3

Just because a civilization is built, does not mean its principles are good
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 12:56 PM
1

You're adding an unnecessary beaurocracy to sex, when really why isn't it enough to say "if she freezes up, stop."? Do people really need training for that? Are you suggesting sex partners be certified? You literally said that the threat of violence is rare, in a previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 12:54 PM
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I don't agree at all that it's oppressive. That's a completely overblown word for literally choosing to be doing something you don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 10:08 PM
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So, only in retrospect can you truly determine validity of "freezing." Meaning that pre-evaluation determining readiness for sex is entirely useless. Meaning your argument is bunk. Where do you get the idea that physical threats, inadvertent or otherwise, is so rare?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 10:06 PM
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At least you're weirdly consistent. I 100% disagree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 07:32 PM
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okay, so how can you verify that the person's perception of a physical threat is valid or not? Third party observers at all times? What makes you think that it's limited?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 06:00 PM
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So am I being oppressed when a coworker asks me about my day when I don't want him to?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 04:53 PM
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If she freezes in terror for unwanted sex, no I don't see how it's a sign that they are not ready. Can you explain further?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 04:52 PM
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Why is it terrible to tell women? And how in the hell is it oppressive? How is it forcing a woman to do anything? What's stopping her from walking away and not saying anything if she doesn't want to? Where are you getting this feeling of "oppression"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 03:56 PM
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Okay so...how can you say that freezing up means she's not ready for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 03:55 PM
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"Almost everyone freezes when presented with a clear credible threat of overwhelming, irresistible violence. The interesting kind of freezing up is the type where no threat of violence, overt or implied, is made." You imply that the woman doesn't believe that a threat of violence has been implied. To a woman, a large man forcing their body somewhere is an implied threat of violence. If you're unhappy with a woman freezing up around you, she probably doesn't want you to fuck her, and you can just…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 03:49 PM
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That's dandy and all, but if that's true that's not a woman I want to have sex with. I'd rather have sex with someone who says yes and keeps saying yes, than some woman who's trying to "test" me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 01:50 PM
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I don't agree at all. How is it forcing women to do anything? How is saying something like "you're so funny," arguably a flirtatious statement in the right context, treating a woman as a sex object? Belittling a woman can be, yes, funny asshole behavior, but I fail to see the oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 01:05 PM
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I can see how it can be seen as creepy. I don't see how it can be seen as oppressive, which is why I'm asking you to clarify how flirting can be oppressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 08:17 PM
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You didn't answer my question. Why is flirting with someone oppressive?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 07:47 PM
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Maybe you're just friends with trashy women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 07:39 PM
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Why is his flirting oppressive?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 07:30 PM
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That doesn't make a person any less capable of performing. Less willing, maybe. Not less capable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 03:50 PM
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You think this, but I'm not seeing numbers that support this. From the numbers I've seen, and youve shared, child support doesn't cover the entire cost of raising a child to 18 years. This means that the woman needs to compensate the remaining balance with her own income. If you don't agree, id like to see data that shows that single moms who get child support spend none of their own money on their child.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 02:49 PM
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The one where the Burger King wakes up right next to the other guy. hnnnnng.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 02:46 PM
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risk != capability. It's very risky for a man to fuck his secretary, but that doesn't make him any more or less capable of it. As for cost, there are women willing to fuck for the cost of a video game, so I don't see that diminishing the capability aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 02:45 PM
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Sometimes shit isn't worth delving into. The type of porn someone watches can be indicative of greater issues, but generally it's just a way to get off. Hell I've gotten off on a particularly saucy ad for burgers before.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 02:39 PM
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The difference lies when it's someone you know/trust vs someone who you don't know/don't trust. And easier way to look at it, is that you like it when you want it and you don't like it when you don't. Everyone does this, even with minor things. A boxer plans and expects to be punched in the face repeatedly during a match, and will (generally) respect his opponent afterwards. But a stranger punching him in the face on the street will not be met with any sort of humility. I enjoy it when a woman c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 02:37 PM
2

Why no? Is that not cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 08:39 PM
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So, by both of our numbers, financial burden is not lifted from the woman from a man's child support, provided that monthly average is fixed for all 18 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 07:47 PM
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Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 11:43 PM
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Sunscreen?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 09:35 PM
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Do you not go outside?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 07:59 PM
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I'm not sure what I'm supposed to have seen or should see now, or what "female nature" is, but I see people as individuals, and how they independently treat me and others around me. Women who I've witnessed or reliably heard about be selfish, antagonistic, untrustworthy, ignorant, or otherwise rude in life are not women I choose to associate with. Same goes for men. Women who I've seen be kind, generous, giving, interesting, honest or supportive I try to surround myself with. Same goes for men. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 07:58 PM
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In order to challenge a view, a view needs to be established. You haven't done that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 07:51 PM
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A quick google search yields that the average cost to raise a child to 18 years is about $13K per year. Is child support more or less than that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 02:52 PM
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I defended it, you didn't like my defense. Which is fine. We're at an impasse. I think my defense is adequate enough to choose male.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 02:50 PM
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If you can my articulate your own points then why bother trying to debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 02:48 PM
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So is that a yes or a no, does child support cover 100% of the cost to raising a child? Through 18 years? I'm not trying to learn the details of your wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 09:57 PM
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When men pay child support, does that cover 100% of the cost to raising a baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 10:40 PM
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im not going to argue about the law, as you clearly have more experience regarding it than I do. What I do have experiencing in is preventing that mess from happening in the first place, and that's having safe sex. By practicing that, and being smart, I don't have to worry about unplanned pregnancies. So, to me, if there is a strong feeling about getting screwed over by the system, the best way to prevent this is to not have any reason for the system to be after you. For a man's case, that invol…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 08:02 PM
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I'm telling you, as a man, to wear a condom, because that's in your control and you, theoretically, aren't ready for a child. If a woman were to tell me she's not ready for a child, I would tell her to use birth control. Your argument is about if a man isn't ready, so I talk about what's in a man's control. If a baby is conceived when a woman wasn't ready for it, she should have taken more precautions to prevent it. Same goes for a man. If a woman has unprotected sex and has a child when she was…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 06:45 PM
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I'm not moving goalposts, you're changing your arguments. You're upset about men getting squeezed out of child support money, so I say to wear a condom. Now you seem to be upset that this will encourage women to have a bunch of sex. I'm not sure why that part is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 03:11 PM
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But...men can't also fuck whoever whenever? Why is women having sex a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 01:34 PM
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How can you suffer the consequences of a child when there is no child? How can there be a bad decision when you're practicing safe sex? What consequences other than that are men suffering?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 12:26 PM
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Yes, because it can very easily prevent that behavior. How can anyone take advantage when there is no baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 09:56 PM
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So how would she get a baby from you when you're wearing a condom?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 09:32 PM
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It was clearly a mistake to stop wearing the condom. Regardless of whether or not the system protects, wearing a condom would have prevented this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 09:11 PM
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I mean I'll tell you that sucks that that happened, but if I were in your shoes I wouldn't have stopped wearing rubbers. Pregnancy protection aside I'm not one for STD's. As you said, she abused the system for personal gains, but she didn't force you to stop wearing condoms. You made the choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 08:49 PM
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Christ. These aren't mutually exclusive. A woman has her birth control pills, a man has condoms. If you aren't ready for a pregnancy, you should do all you can within your own control to prevent the possibilities. In your case, or any man's case, that means wearing a rubber. You can't force a woman to take a pill, and, sure, there are women who might be dishonest about taking it, and that's shitty. Why doesn't that just make you more inclined to wear protection?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 08:23 PM
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So...I guess men should wear a condom then? It's a pretty easy step to avoid all this hassle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 07:56 PM
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It depends. I admire passion in most fields. I'd find a woman with amazing skills in the kitchen as attractive as an esteemed artist, or a talented surgeon. A woman with skills is a woman with drive, and I admire that in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 07:40 PM
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Both parties are financially on the hook for 18 years. A baby costs time and money for both parents. The woman has 9 months of gestation, and after that both parents have 18 years of time and money, should they choose to care for the child themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 07:33 PM
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Why is cheating imperative to happiness?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 06:50 PM
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I'm still picking man, 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 06:47 PM
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There are forms of female and male contraception. Both parties are responsible for using them. If both parties elect not to, both parties are responsible for the pregnancy. You're really harping on the woman not keeping her legs closed when it's just as (not more or less than) irresponsible for the man to not wear a condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 06:29 PM
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No, not because women have a uterus. Because she carries a child for nine months, having complex effects on the body and can carry risks. The decision for which men have to shoulder the consequence is not wearing a condom. Why is that such an unfair step?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 04:00 PM
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Again, there is surely a correlation between low IQ and jail time. But a person's low IQ will not cause them to go to jail, their actions will. If I were in this new alternate RPG with a lower IQ, that alone won't make me more likely to wind up in prison, just like being black, or being male, won't make me more likely. It's the choices I make.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 02:35 PM
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Except, you know, the whole effects on the body part. There's a bit of inequality there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 02:11 PM
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Wow, you've made a great case for men to just wear a condom. That's a pretty easy decision. And even still, how does caring for a baby not affect the mother's life?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 05:13 PM
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I think the person who undergoes a 9 month gestation period, having tremendous effects on the body, has a bit more say in whether or not she wants to put herself through it, wouldn't you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 11:12 PM
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Choices for both parties to practice safer sex to avoid a pregnancy. Consequences for both parties from when the pregnancy is dealt with, either termination or follow through. If a man isn't responsible enough to wear a condom, then yeah, sucks to suck but you're now part of that pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 09:38 PM
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Again, the correlation does not equal the cause. Do people with low IQ get sent to prison, or do people who get sent to prison often have low IQ? There is a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 09:36 PM
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Because he helped make the child. If he wasn't ready he should have taken measures to help prevent the pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 12:08 PM
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Probably, since IQ and income don't affect likelihood of getting shot and going to prison. Those who go to prison or are involved in gang violence are more likely to be low income, possibly lower IQ. Not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 12:06 PM
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I think a woman who has sex and accidentally gets pregnant isn't "retarded." What is would be trying to take care of it before you're ready, but an accidental pregnancy is a far cry from being some sort of untouchable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 05:27 PM
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...Not really. I think lots of people will agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 05:26 PM
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This is your last chance to turn back, and leave this link blue. https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/6rr6ay/tifu_by_cumming_into_a_coconut/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:13 PM
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I considered sense of humor in with rapport, compatibility with sexual attraction, and hygiene with good health. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:00 PM
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Male, hands down. THinking that women have life on "easy mode" is a bit of a farce, and I think I'd be more likely to spawn somewhere where being a man will be more advantageous to my surroundings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 03:48 PM
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I actually, physically wretched.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 03:46 PM
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One of a couple of things: 1) She's not ready to settle down with anyone, which is fine. I've been there. I'm okay for a few NSA romps. 2) I'm not what she's after, I'm just the guy for now. 3) She'll never settle with anyone. In any case, it's whatever to me. If I'm not right for her, then she's not right for me. We'll have our fun, then move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 03:44 PM
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In a sense, yes. But typically the connotation with harassment comes from repeated action.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 08:28 PM
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In what ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 08:26 PM
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You're making some pretty dramatic leaps in logic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 07:16 PM
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Harassment is defined as unwanted and repeating. If it's wanted, then it isn't harassment. If it's a one time occurrence, it's not harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 07:13 PM
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It's absolutely not tangent. It's two different topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 07:10 PM
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No it's not. This is a lie. "Nice Guy" is a catch-all term for basically anyone experessing any frustration that their percieved agreeableness is being disrespected in the face of people less agreeable. You saying otherwise is a bold faced lie. I'm sorry you think this way, but this is who I mock when I think of the niceguy trope. This is also a lie. Most reasonable men do not complain that they lost a girl to a better looking man. That's the most obvious thing in the world. They're complaining …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 07:20 PM
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If you're that worried how other people perceive your emotions, and are afraid of feeling "beta," then you're probably "beta af."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 07:11 PM
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1) Generally, yes 2) Yes 3) Yes 4) Yes 5) No, but it has in terms of women's rights 6) Yes 7) No for gender, yes for racial 8) Usually yes 9) Yes Tone is neutral, and I'm not sure what your point is going to be, so I'm interested to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 07:09 PM
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This is a chain that evolved from your original point, and has only become unrelated from your own doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 07:03 PM
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Implying that women are either madonna or whore implies that there are two ways a woman is, and furthermore that there is only one two dimensional spectrum on which to traverse. Similarly with alpha and beta men, when neither of these are the case. People are more complex than that. You yourself says it takes someone with social intelligence to see this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 07:03 PM
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You seem really pressed on jawlines. That's not all that defines good looks, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:32 PM
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You went from strip clubs (presumably in America) to brothels in a poor country. You're fighting at least two different battles here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:28 PM
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"Here's what you actually find attractive. Not what you said you find attractive."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:20 PM
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I guess contradiction is the wrong word, unless you're considering yourself socially intelligent. But you point out the "dichotomy of women," which generally implies that women are one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:15 PM
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So I'm thinking it's a combination of LA, which is widely understood by most as an extremely superficial city, and what you are or are not bringing to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 03:06 AM
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Being from the midwest, I've never had any problem with dating culture or talking with women in general. Everyone has bad dates or dates that fail, that's just a fact of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 10:40 PM
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Because you're contradicting yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 10:32 PM
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Sure seems like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 08:08 PM
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Your second part of the combination seems very chicken/egg. Wouldn't her type be somewhat established by the time she gets into her first relationship? So wouldn't it make more sense that her type sin't being affected by her first choice, but her first choice is being chosen based on her type?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 08:06 PM
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But, are you not speaking in black and white terms for men and women with this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 03:58 PM
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I didn't say exclusively. I said from my observation. From my observation, this is generally the case, since, as you said, it's not socially smart to think of things in shades of black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 03:49 PM
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Do you have a link?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 03:34 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly. But those people, from my observation, are the ones who believe in the alpha trope, and who classify themselves as such. Therefore, are they not socially smart, and therefore not alpha, by their own metric?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 03:16 PM
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Where do you get the information that women end most relationships? Just personal observation? Because that is easily biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 03:15 PM
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Sure, but the bachelor is heavily edited. You can't gauge accurate personalities from that show. The people and decisions are as real as the producers want them to be. They coax contestants into drinking more, and intentionally stir up drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 03:12 PM
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Lol man maybe I'm just not as cynical as you are, and maybe the world isn't as harsh as you think. Also, what aspect here is harsh? That some strangers took care of someone, or some strangers went home with a guy who barfed on himself? Nothing here seems all that harsh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 03:07 PM
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What would be a true equivalence then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 10:27 PM
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Why do you think this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 10:27 PM
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M/Purple?/24
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 10:03 PM
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Gonna stop you right at the Bachelorette, which is scripted reality at worst, coaxed at best, and definitely edited by the producers to tell the story they want to tell. Somewhat artificial is an understatement. I'm not gonna take that as any support of any argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 09:27 PM
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I still doubt your scenario went as you described. I've seen lots of people get helped when they boot on themselves, regardless of attractiveness. And they often will get helped out into a cab, or home by an acquaintance. I have a feeling you're just seeing what you want, but I don't know the full scenario. I just don't believe it's the way you're saying, and speaking in strawmen won't help your case.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 09:25 PM
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You're the one who brought up intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 09:23 PM
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You've never seen a smart person make a dumb decision? One of the smartest engineers I know knows jack shit about the human body. A girl I know who is an incredibly intelligent brain doctor knows nothing about cars. The smartest one in the room is not always going to be the smartest one in every room.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 07:38 PM
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All people are necessarily what?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 07:34 PM
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How do you know they were strangers? How do you know that he went home with her? How do you know they weren't just helping him into a cab? If the dude was blacked out, would you expect everyone to just leave him to his own?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 07:12 PM
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The idea I've seen of the stereotypical alpha male is rarely the type of guy I've seen with legitimate success, but that's just my perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 06:57 PM
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I think there are so many shades of grey that it kind of does, though. Most people I've seen who do use the terms alpha and beta and take it seriously do seem to see it in more black and white, so I cannot associate them seeing things in situational sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 06:55 PM
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I agree, which is why I don't believe there is one person who will always be alpha. Plus, as you said, finding something engaging is totally subjective. In any sense, in most situations, you will be more drawn to one person over another naturally. Not everyone will be drawn to that person, but they will be naturally drawn to one or the other. Hence, to you, or to me, they will have the more dominant personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 06:54 PM
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I disagree with this. Even well-to-do guys will say that effort is always required when meeting/getting with a woman. In that scenario you witnessed, were the girls total strangers? How do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 03:38 PM
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Because it just won't happen. You can't sit there and tell me that an "alpha" will always control the room in any scenario. That just won't be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 03:37 PM
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In any situation one person is going to be the more dominant personality. That's just nature. I'm using it like I'd say in any situation one person will be a bit taller, one person's hair will be a bit longer. One person will have a more animated and engaging personality. That's just the truth of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 03:36 PM
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I don't agree with those comparisons though. One is a belief, the other is a behavior. Everything is situational. A man who is an alpha dog in one situation won't necessarily be in another. In fact, he could be in the background entirely to two other guys who might be taking lead. I'm not saying their behavior is radically different, but they are not always going to be taking the head role in all circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 03:32 PM
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In my school, it was really easy to find a guy who would lament how women would always go for "jerks" and not "nice guys" like him, while he sat there not making a move, not being interesting, moping all the time, and dressing like a schlub. I think it's more common to find the guy who isn't even friends with a lot of women saying this. I knew plenty in high school and a handful in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 03:00 PM
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An alpha today could just as easily be a beta tomorrow. The faster you are to box someone in that label, the less likely you are to actually learn anything about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 11:01 PM
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I just disagree that they're good or bad. I prefer brunettes just because I'm more attracted to them generally. I won't turn down an interested blonde or redhead, but I am more inclined to talk to brunettes. It's just how I'm wired. It's not about morality in what I'm more attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 11:00 PM
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So do you have zero preferences when looking for a woman to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 10:50 PM
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Why do you think this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 09:54 PM
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There's a guy I know who said it at a party, when things were kind of at a lull. He came up to me and said "Look, we're all alphas here. We should be able to get this party to the next level." He's a decent dude, but I had to cringe as well. I feel like he's always gotta be the best, the dominant one, the "alpha," and it can be uncomfortable to watch. Luckily after a few drinks he loosens up and just rolls with the group, and that's when he's a lot more fun to be around. Sober he's good too. I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 09:54 PM
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There are more dominant men and less dominant men, in different scenarios. But to classify one man as always alpha and one as always beta is childish and illogical. Frankly, most everyone I've met who uses those terms unironically is usually really insecure and, by their own definition, "not alpha." In any sense, every man is on a spectrum of leadership, confidence, and dominance, and there is not one trait or action that can classify a man as purely alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 09:29 PM
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What are we including here? I've dated a girl with medicated anxiety, a girl who was bipolar, and a a girl narcolepsy and OCD. The bipolar girl wasn't great and she cheated on me, but I also attribute that to immaturity with relationships (this was when we were in high school). The girl with anxiety and I are actually still friends. We broke up because of how she dealt with various situations (not always well). I was and still am very laid back, rarely in a negative mood, and can roll with the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 08:21 PM
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That's fine. I'm not sure why you posted your subjective post if you're just going to get mad at others posting their subjective posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 07:18 PM
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What is your stance? Is preferring one or the other immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 07:17 PM
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Okay, then let's say democrat. Or republican. Would preferring to date one over the other be morally wrong as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 06:10 PM
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I more agree with this statement than others. A man who is unattractive can go through his whole life without being seen as creepy. However, it's more likely for creepy behavior to be negatively seen if the person is unattractive, and more likely to be brushed off if the person is attractive. Not definitive either way, but likelihood is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 05:32 PM
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I couldn't agree more. I really hope my future lady has this viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 05:28 PM
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Uh, please. I'm currently dating someone who, honestly, is a decent cook. But there are certain skills I'm better at than she is. Plus, I like to cook. If a woman can't handle me crossing that stupid gender line, then smell ya later.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 05:26 PM
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A buddy of mine may currently be in one. Once, after a night of drinking, I saw his phone screen was shattered. When I asked what he did, he got real solemn and said that his girlfriend got super pissed at him while he was asleep, started hitting him, and hurled his phone across the room. He passed me a note once during a friend's party asking me to help her feel included (she didn't know many people), but notto text him about it because she reads his messages. He's cited several times she just …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 05:22 PM
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But why is one morally wrong, and the other not? Or are both morally wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 03:19 PM
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So if you say you're more attracted to blondes, is that any more or less moral than you saying you're more attracted to white people?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 09:33 PM
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What about based on hair color?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 08:43 PM
1

I rarely see "be nice" as the only advice given, as it's usually partnered with several other things you should be, but maybe the people I know are just better at giving advice. The thing is though is that it is a thing. In fact, you admit yourself that there is a subset of men that act this way. This is who we make fun of. Moreover, your quote of "I'm nice, I'm myself, and I'm emotionally available, so why does she keep rejecting me in favour of getting anal fucked by Derk the jerk at every par…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 01:44 PM
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I mean in his world where abortion would be illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 01:18 AM
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Right it takes a strong willed mindset to do it. It's pretty admirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 01:18 AM
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I see that. Making that sacrifice to do what you truly enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:01 PM
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How well does that go for, if you don't mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 10:17 PM
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If a wife isn't in the mood, then, and the husband forces himself on her, and she pleads for him to stop, Is that rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 09:32 PM
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How do you make money?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 09:31 PM
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If a single man has sex with a single woman, and an accidental pregnancy occurs, what happens to the man, given that abortion is off the table? Is he then responsible for providing for the child?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 09:30 PM
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It's not wrong for anyone to have preferences. Yes, it can be seen as close minded if they claim they'll never ever date a black person, but for someone to generally skew towards white people I wouldn't argue that that's immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 09:28 PM
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And quite a few people disagreeing. That's still considered to be controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 08:12 PM
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Are you just purposefully an antagonist? You put out a controversial assumption about other people, other people come out to say that, no, your analysis doesn't really apply to them, and you can only respond with "it's just an opinion lol why are you so mad?" You're basing an assumption about others on nothing. How do you expect people not to try and debate that, on a debate sub no less?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 07:41 PM
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An opinion about yourself is one thing, an opinion that assumes qualities about others will likely be challenged. You're dropping away from actual discussion by saying "relax, it's just an opinion" is just so you don't have to back up what you're assuming about others. It's a cop out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 07:13 PM
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To me this all sounds like a nightmare relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 07:07 PM
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i do think if you're a woman and in love, 'happy' means satisfied. its not really a successful relationship if you aren't feeling a passive undercurrent of anxiety or dread on a regular basis or in my case, all the time. This isn't you having an opinion, this is you stating how other women are in relationships are/should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 07:04 PM
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What do you mean here?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 06:35 PM
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What do you think trolling here is? Regardless, there are nicegirls and there are niceguys, but the niceguys are generally more common
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 06:33 PM
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There are types of women, and types of men, that can easily be agreed upon by most people that they are attractive/dateable. For men, you've got the 6'2, chiseled, taken care of man, for women it's the 5'9 curvy model with legs for days. These two people will be found attractive for the vast majority of people. However, this is not to say it always will be, nor will it be the most attractive for some people. Not every woman will be attracted to that man, and even of those who are, they might pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 02:29 PM
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Sure, but a woman who is fit can still be E cups. To what extent do BP men think differently? Why do you think this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 07:47 PM
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Do you think BP men must think differently? You realize breast size has little to do with fitness yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 02:40 PM
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Do think that's because you're RP or just because it's what you like?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 03:15 AM
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I don't consider breast size that important, really. Why do you ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 09:22 PM
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No, I mean down as in "I'm down with that." We friends now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 02:37 PM
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Down
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 02:33 PM
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Good glad we agree
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 01:59 PM
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If you think money wins over anything else you're delusional. Just because a few super rich ugly assholes have a woman proves nothing other than money wins over anything for those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 01:12 PM
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You've done a lot of paraphrasing my answers, and you've done it wildly incorrectly. It's apparent that nothing that I said really stuck and you're, again, making assumptions. I corrected you several times when I said that a guy who is frustrated at being rejected is NOT a "niceguy," but apparently you chose to ignore that. So we can all agree that people should be basically nice, and, arguably, the vast majority of people are at least this much. These are people who say please and thank you, mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 06:36 PM
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My friend's parents, and my friend and his wife. Total unconditional love and understanding, but super adventurous and risk-taking. Challenge themselves, challenge each other, and have been devoted throughout.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 12:23 PM
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Same with smoking ads in the 70s. Or axe body spray ads in the early 2000s. Just because you see the images everywhere doesn't mean it's a healthy obsession.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 08:56 PM
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What freaks of nature? You said all men would be asexual. Who are the freaks? So now you're realizing what's wrong with your scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 01:49 AM
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Opinions really can't be right or wrong, but okay. So why don't you ask some specific questions you need to have answered? Because obviously there's something that you want to know that I've yet to provide. If you can wrap your head around it, then you shouldn't still be in the dark about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 08:04 PM
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I'm sorry you can't wrap your head around it. I've been very consistent and clear with what the term means, and you've made countless assumptions about how I actually think, taking things a step further and writing things like "you would probably..." That, to me, is what's intellectually incoherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 03:43 PM
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Okay just making that clear. In that case, I agree wholeheartedly
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 03:18 AM
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I wouldn't necessarily say it's a let down. I wouldn't say "I love you, but I'm not in love with you," to just anyone. I have a couple exes where I'd say that, and several friends, but I wouldn't say that to some girl interested in me at a bar
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 02:57 AM
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Well what I mean is are you only doubting it because you think women only lie, or because men will always ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 02:52 AM
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I mean I know you're being facetious here, but why is it so unbelievable that she's never been asked?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 04:39 PM
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Legacy will likely not have nearly the same effect when it's not a child that you yourself have created. Although some, I'm sure, may feel that. Adoption rates may soar for a time, but eventually the number of children needed to be adopted will plummet even more, since no surplus children will be made. You said all men are asexual. Not most. Now you're changing it? What children are being raised when very few would be actively producing any? You're acknowledging the rise of homosexual relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 03:26 PM
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Do you ask every woman that you date?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 01:30 PM
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The person is asking for logical clarification on your proposals, and you haven't said "yes" or "no." So you're talking in circles. You say premarital sex and fornication should be illegal. Does this mean that those who have no plans to be married should be legally bound to remain virgins/non-fornicators?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 01:28 PM
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That I recall, the only times I've been asked for my count are by friends, both male and female. I don't think I've ever been asked for my count by women I get sexually involved with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 01:23 PM
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So then in this pretend world all or most have to also identify as heteroromantic for mother-father pairings to flourish. Similarly, a lot of the appeal of having children is having created them. Do you think sacrificing that aspect won't have too much of an effect here?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 03:59 AM
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I still would consider those "niceguys." That's a pretty easy choice there. They just also happen to be sexually successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 03:57 AM
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Every post by this guy is homework
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 03:39 PM
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How do you figure you make men asexual while keeping them wanting a romantic relationship? Furthermore, why would gender matter? Who says they would want romantic relationships with women over men? Are you familiar at all with how asexuality works?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 03:32 PM
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But where are the kids coming from? Edit: sperm donations would be a first thought, but that would likely lower population and a need for adoption, since the likelihood of having unwanted children would be diminished. Women would likely only be hitting the sperm bank once they are sure they want a kid. In any sense, they would still likely want a partner to raise the child with, and that again poses my question of how they would get a man (if they were straight) to fall in love with and marry th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 02:01 AM
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I had planned a whole road trip for us to take. We had stops, hotels, scenic getaways, all that. When I got home they day before we took off, she, totally unbeknownst to me, bought and packed a cooler filled with all kinds of road trip essentials, and wrote a very sweet letter and "instruction manual" for all 20 or so items in the cooler. Very thoughtful, unexpected gesture.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 01:00 AM
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I actually encourage you to construct this poll, see what the results would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 09:42 PM
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But doesn't romantic companionship require some sort of physical attraction? What keeps a man from just marrying his buddy from high school? Obviously gender doesn't matter if they're both asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 09:39 PM
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Why do you think men would adhere to those standards? Marriage rate and religious population is currently falling. Furthermore, what draws an asexual person to be married in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 09:05 PM
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But the men wouldn't want to have sex with the women. How do you suppose that gets addressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 08:31 PM
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I mean, I wasn't sure that the problem you stated needed to be directly addressed, but I'll see if I can further illustrate. There are people who are nice for niceness sake, and people who are nice only to get what they want. Now of course everyone is trying to better themselves in some way or another, but take for example a much smaller gesture. A man who holds the door open for a stranger is obviously not going to get anything out of it. This is most certainly someone who is just being nice to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 08:26 PM
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well it seems like you're enjoying your life just fine. I don't think I'd see much value in it, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 08:07 PM
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Okay, is it just about you then and the stories you tell? Do you honestly only have 5 or however many stories you can rotate through? Are your experiences that limited? Do you really not learn anything unless it has to do with your bank account?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 07:32 PM
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I mean, to me that sounds incredibly boring as well. I'm not in finance so I have no interest in talking about that day in day out. There's much more to conversation than money. What's wrong with talking about aspiration? Or recreation? Or interests and hobbies? You legitimately don't find interest in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 07:18 PM
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I mean I don't consider it a game. I like small talk. I like getting to know people and drawing in conversations with substance. Most times out I end up talking with women about way more than just the weather
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 05:33 PM
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A girl planned a double date with a coworker/best friend while I was overseas on vacation. She essentially confirmed she was going to dump me and already planned a new date before actually breaking up with me. The three of us ended up working together for two summers (breakup happened in the middle of the first). There's more to the story, but they ended up dating for about 6 months and broke up before the second summer. The first day of next summer he profusely apologized and understood why I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 03:10 PM
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Meet.com often has social groups of all different kinds of interests, depending on the city you're in. Some of them are singles oriented as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 11:42 AM
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And sure, with some women that will work. If you're a good looking dude and she is DTF then that's a question that will yield positive answers from a percentage of women. But you realize that many others enjoy actual conversation. The fact that you feel you have to fake it is sad to me, but that's your life. It's not about "rules." It's about someone enjoying themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 11:39 AM
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I agree, and I touched on that in other comments. I'm not sure where the "she rejects 90% of men" part comes from though. Why is she less likely to choose him if she's DTF? I don't know if I'm following.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 12:43 AM
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Attraction aside, most women will appreciate a good rapport with a man they might sleep with. A physical attraction can be as important as an emotional one, even just for a one night stand. A hot, boring dude who only speaks in sexual compliments isn't as exciting as a cute dude with a personality. Some women will be perfectly fine with an opener like "nice ass." For the majority of women, this won't fly unless you're someone she already was looking to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:54 PM
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Eh sometimes it's nice just to keep debate skills sharp. If this guy becomes aware, great. If not, he'll just stop responding. No harm no foul.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 10:12 PM
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Honestly I'd find that funny, but I'm a guy. It's so absurd. I wouldn't doubt that with a humorous delivery that could go over well with more women than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 08:35 PM
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Sure, in the bedroom. I'm talking as an icebreaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 07:56 PM
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The thing is it will inevitably work on a certain percentage of women. I know a guy who does shit like this to every girl at a bar. It will eventually work after the 30th girl, well into the night when everyone is too drunk to care. He usually gets laid. Based on this, he's likely to assume that it works every time. However, based on the rough numbers I gave in this scenario, it works on ~5% of women. He's increasing his odds of finding the women who are into that kind of talk, rather than looki…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 06:18 PM
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Some women, sure. The majority of those I've seen don't, no matter who it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 06:11 PM
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Then there ya go.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 06:10 PM
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Not gonna post pics on a public forum, and I'd hate to pull pics from their Facebook that can risk being traced back, but if I get/find a good pic of the couples I'll PM.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 06:05 PM
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I mean if you honk being fat is all it'll take, you might be disappointed. Otherwise go ahead and move to Cincinnati. Cost of living is way cheaper there anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 06:04 PM
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Thin woman dating a fat guy, who isn't rich. The women I know are all very attractive, the men include a brewer, a candy store clerk, and a mid level accountant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:38 PM
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Man I can point out three of those types of couples in my personal life right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:39 PM
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I don't believe it's that hard for an average guy to get laid at all, provided he isn't an ass about it. In my college experience almost every guy who was average and up had a pretty active sex life (compared to the "once or twice a year" metric I see come up here). I'd say most guys would get it around once a month or so. Even some below average looking guys got theirs with average looking women. So no, based on my eyewitness accounts, I will never believe that average guys have some impossible…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:38 PM
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How is being verbally gross and demanding not fucking it up though? I've seen some of my friends tinder profiles and the messages they get. It's some heinous shit that I wouldn't blame anyone for rejecting outright.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:35 PM
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Good to know that you acknowledge your lack of book smarts, or knowing the subject deeply.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:26 PM
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*can't. You're like a snowflake tumblrina that refuses to provide answers, and just tells people to look it up themselves. A sure sign that they have no actual answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 12:54 PM
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So you can't point out any differences between the two then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:48 AM
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It's not relative to themselves, but relative to the availability. A man who is 7 feet tall who demands his future SO to be at least 6'9 has high standards because there aren't many women who fit that requirement, even though he also is over 6'9
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:46 AM
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Can't argue with that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:44 AM
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I am, because that's akin to what you were suggesting, which is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:57 AM
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But it can be tough to distinguish, you know? Some people are socially inept, unattractive, and will take anything, but has a tough time but nobody's looking their way. That sucks. I feel for them. The ones who are bitter assholes with too high standards? Those are the losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:57 AM
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What defines knowing it deeply? I feel like this is an arbitrary definition you're using just to discount smart women. I'm not saying your example should include all spectrums, but if you list four a person would at least expect four varying degrees. It's like saying "I have tons of different colored clothes. Red, dark red, blue, and navy blue." You're effectively naming just two colors and making your list seem longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 12:25 AM
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In any case, I disagree. Some of the smartest people I know are women. I've met and dated women of all sorts of walks of life. I can pick out several women in my life who are so incredibly opposite. Why are your two metrics crime and intellect? You named four categories, and all fit in one of those two bases. Men also cover a similarly wider spectrum than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 12:13 AM
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Are we talking about cheating or just the variety of people in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 11:58 PM
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And all men can be cheating bastards as well. All humans can be murderers. Doesn't mean they will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 11:42 PM
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I don't know man. I've seen a lot of incels with some super high standards. Not fat, not ugly, virgin, no male friends, white, etc. Not fat and not ugly are perfectly reasonable, mind you, but what I've seen called ugly on that sub is insane. Moreover, the lack of trust is prevalent. Any woman seen looking at another guy must be a cheating slut. Any woman without a perfectly tight vagina must have ridden the CC through her 20s. It's a bit ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 11:26 PM
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Well whoever finds it emotionally exhausting has some serious paper skin
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 10:46 PM
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I still don't get exactly what emotional labor is. Isn't that just remembering something? Task management? What's emotional here?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 08:27 PM
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I think emotional labor is being defined many ways in this post...is getting milk emotional labor?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 07:08 PM
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The thing is that's such a fluid definition that I've seen change to fit a narrative. Some users I've spoken to seem to put any man who gets laid in a "Chad" category. But let's go with the stereotype: 6'2, chiseled jaw, ripped, rich. I've actually got two good friends who ticks all these boxes (one recently engaged). These guys would go out specifically to chase women. Their bar time was more dedicated to finding a hole, rather than just having a good time with friends (generally my MO at bars,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 06:48 PM
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Yeah...that wasn't the case. The goods for both parties looked to be sex. And the payment was sex. This isn't some sex-for-grades prostitution ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 06:35 PM
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Hahahah what? What assignments? They would fuck women on a weekends at parties. Where is the assignment help coming into play in that scenario? Nobody is talking about work on a weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 05:39 PM
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Takes one to know one, by the looks of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 05:38 PM
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I know it's hard. I was there. One was overweight, and maybe about 5'7, but he's probably shorter than that. Average hookup probably once a month. Some guys were pretty good looking, most were pretty average. One guy actually had a bunch of scars on his face from a car accident and women would throw themselves at him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 02:58 PM
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I don't think you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 02:42 PM
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Either way, most guys I know did as well or better in school.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 02:41 PM
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I don't see how being good looking helps you do well in school. In any sense, nobody had an easy time doing well in their degree. From my limited view, I think most of the people I know did better than I did, and I made good grades generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 01:26 PM
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Then I believe you don't get out much
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 11:57 AM
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So...did I go to a school of outliers? It was an engineering school, and I had many guy friends who had an active sex life. Several who you would not say had natural good looks. Even beyond my own friend circle, there were plenty of people hooking up on weekends
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 11:56 AM
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Mechanical engineering, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 01:49 AM
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It's not really that far fetched. One guy I went to school with was a skinny dude from Mumbai. Kind of an annoying dude in my opinion, but partied a lot and was somehow always good with women. I believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 01:20 AM
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I wouldn't say so. My degree was a lot of work and I busted my ass for it. Still could casually hook up with girls on the weekend because everyone is trying to blow off steam.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 01:18 AM
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Male
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 12:52 AM
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Again, anecdotal, but I just don't see this. I was among a group of guys in college all walks of life, shapes, sizes, and race. Any of them who put it any sort of effort was able to get casual sex fairly regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 09:52 PM
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Why can't they be?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 01:12 PM
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College is typical, but I've seen it happen at lots of stages. Through early 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:30 AM
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Anecdotal, sure, but most everyone I've met who is reasonably social has a slut phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:22 AM
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Most everyone has a slut period in their life, men and women alike. I'd put around 3/4 of my friends have done so at some point in their life. And that's likely conservative
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 11:55 PM
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And what if the videos that don't have that justification? Surely those are evidence that all cops are aggressive brutes. That one must just be an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 11:53 PM
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A keyboard costs 60 bucks without even looking hard. Take an hour a day and learn through books or videos from the library. You don't need that many advantages
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 06:12 PM
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What is the context? I meant the quote, or soundbite, or sentence, of the other person. I know they didn't quote anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 02:16 PM
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You're the one who used the word behavior, not me. I'm just clarifying. There do exist men who attempt to pick up women while actively thinking that all women are worthless. They put on an act of chivalry and at the slightest hint of disinterest will lash out. I mean to say you've never seen this happen would be surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 02:15 PM
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So, you're assuming my behavior? Is that not assuming my actions? This seems very similar. Have I done things in the heat of the moment? Sure. Have I judged groups of people or assumed things about a gender in the heat of the moment? No, I can honestly say I have not. And if I were to, I wouldn't blame someone for judging my character based on that. A man can attempt courtship and resent women, sure, but that seems backwards. What's false is when a guy pretends he's nice while calling all women …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 05:55 AM
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Why is it not black and white with one thing, but is with the other? I said sound bite to describe the terseness of it. The quote was specifically saying the viewpoints of other articles, not expressing their own opinion, at least not evidently.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 05:51 AM
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I'll rephrase: Just like there's loads of videos of police brutality and ignorant christians? Once again, that person was describing the points of someone else's viewpoint, not giving their own. In any sense, there was still more to the comment than "nope."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 04:40 AM
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Which I get. Obviously any situation is different and it's valid. I have nothing to base this on so it's possible he has more than just 2 hours of free time. But regardless, it's fine whatever way he chooses to spend his time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 04:13 AM
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Do you have a response?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 04:11 AM
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Oh I know a bunch. Hell most of my guy friends in their late 20s don't see themselves dating much younger than 24.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 02:11 AM
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Studies shown that it wasn't as much warpaint as it was literally makeup to make them look more flawless. Cover up blemishes and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 12:56 AM
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Hiking, piano, lifting/cardio, cooking, looking to take up handy skills (woodworking etc) and acting. I absolutely prefer my partner sharing some of those hobbies. Bonus if she has more that I haven't learned yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 12:54 AM
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But what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 12:12 AM
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Just like there's loads of videos of police brutality and ignorant christians? Once again, that person was describing the points of someone else's viewpoint, not giving their own. But in either sense, there was still more to the comment than "nope."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 11:57 PM
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Trust me, I know it. Those are the days I'm right there with you, cooping up with tea, weed, and Xbox.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 08:35 PM
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Maybe so, and that's fine if you'd rather be on your own for that reason
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 08:34 PM
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Very true now, but my last home was a far cry from a Chicago lifestyle. And then it was still easy to just walk around and poke into shops. Ride a bike. Go through the woods. It's something at least, more than sitting around and playing video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 08:15 PM
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I mean that's you, and that's totally fine. Most women (in my experience), or frankly most people, like a little more activity than that. But for your preferred lifestyle I wouldn't necessarily say that going without a relationship is a bad idea at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 08:14 PM
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Chicago. But before then I'd just walk around my neighborhood when I was landlocked. Hell there was one girl I would date where we would get stoned and just walk around, ducking into shops just to browse. It was at least doing something.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 07:18 PM
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I mean doing things doesn't have to cost a month's rent. I go bike riding, or walk along the lake, or go through street festivals for minimal dollars, definitely less than the cost of an eighth of weed or a fifth of cheap booze.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 07:14 PM
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Oh absolutely. At the very least I'm hopeful that they are if I'm attracted to them. I usually go about by asking leading questions to see if they don't have a relationship or they might actually be interested in me. For the most part though I take niceness for niceness and work from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 07:12 PM
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But it doesn't seem like the guy wants to do anything at all, even if the girl wasn't involved. That seems like such a boring way to go through life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 07:04 PM
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Essentially you're sounding like anyone who says "most cops are power hungry brutes" or "most christians are ignorant gay bashers." It's easy to find videos of things that rile up emotion, as these will often be the most popular. It is far from robust in an objective sense, but compared to "nope," which is less than a sound bite, it at least has substance. 5th law has said nothing regarding the original video posted. Either way, that other user was only remarking what other reviews talked about,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 06:55 PM
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How can you possibly discern the metrics of that? There's no way you can accurately tell me the numbers there. That comment illustrated actual arguments, albeit in a soundbite of a few sentences. Even still, infinitely more robust than an argument of "Nope," that was expressed by 5th law.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 04:59 PM
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I've done multiple threads on the same topic with the same person before. It's cumbersome, unnecessary, and it always winds up into us having the same conversation in two different areas. Pick a thread, say "this one" or "that one," and I will give my thorough answer. You: "lol no you won't." Yes I will. You obviously aren't satisfied with me picking, so it's up to you. If not, I'll go ahead and just let this die. You can mock and make any excuse you want, but it's all in your hands now where yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 03:27 PM
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You had every opportunity to pick. Would you rather me respond to that one? I will do that instead if you'd like. Or I can continue with this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 01:19 PM
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Because it offered no substance, and it was just as immature as the people you mock. It doesn't teach a lesson of "this is what feminists do too," it only makes you look as immature as feminists who cry sexism at every turn. Now, you could alternatively make your point by saying "if I were a feminist, I would cry 'sexism' and leave it at that, but here is my response..." and that would be perfectly well rounded. Instead, you give the same terse, ignorant response as shitty people do, and it only…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 01:03 PM
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Not mentally taxing. Unnecessarily complex. Pick one, I will respond in full. Your call. If you feel like instead being a little baby about it and pretend "I wasn't gonna respond to either," then yes, we can call it over. Totally your call here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 11:58 AM
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The difference is you have no idea what I do vs what I say. You can't tell me I'm lying when you have no idea whether or not I "beat dogs," so that is totally irrelevant. Unless of course you have proof of me not doing what I say? No. Again, "niceguys" are guys that are feigning a nice persona and show true colors after rejection. Slight difference. Guys who get rejected and say "man I'm sick of getting rejected. This sucks." Those aren't "niceguys." Those are guys who are rightfully upset becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 11:56 AM
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This is the strangest shit test I've ever experienced
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 11:52 AM
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And then there's also videos where nobody mentions anything, and you have no idea that the woman behind the screen is actually a feminist or not. I've got friends who are diehard feminists and you really wouldn't know it unless you really asked about it, because they aren't as militant as the stereotype. Hm, maybe I didn't call out that user because I literally have no clue what you're talking about because I don't know who that user is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 11:49 AM
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Again, pick one. I'm not having multiple threads at the same time. Otherwise I'm just gonna not respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 11:45 AM
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Then either way, that's not the type of girl I'm looking to be with
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 02:28 AM
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I ROLL AGAIN
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 02:27 AM
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Very interesting shit test. I choose to punch a smaller man in the face and flex my muscles. Did I pass?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 01:59 AM
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Wow those are pro shit tests. I bet I could get through to you. So when am I taking you out?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 01:34 AM
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If a woman is being cold and unresponsive, then she's not worth my time. I know women who do that, and it's genuinely because they don't like meeting guys at bars if they're out with friends. Women who are consciously using that as a strategy to make men work for it are batshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 01:32 AM
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See now the thing with people behaving normally it's hard to say if they're a feminist or not unless they expressly say it. Feminists, unlike cops, don't have a uniform, or a badge letting the world know what they are. And if they do, they're likely a militant feminist who doesn't always act with a lot of civility. That's the rub. Once I see it I'll be sure to call it out. I'm not here reading every single comment on every single thread, so pardon me for my lack of vigilant patrolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 01:29 AM
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I'm not gonna have three separate conversations with you at the same time. Stick to one thread, you can choose, and we'll go from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 12:48 AM
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The problem with "some videos" is that nobody takes videos of normal behavior. I can find "some videos" of cops using excessive force. Does this prove that most cops are violent and power hungry? Of course not. Who says I don't call out everyone for not providing constructive arguments? I call out shit I see and is easy for me to reach out to the author. I'm not gonna whine about some girl on Jezebel because I'm not gonna get a conversation with her directly, but here it's at least encouraged to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 12:47 AM
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most Debatable. But regardless, I've pointed out the point that he's acting like an idiot because "they started it." It's a childish way to go about it. If he wants to make a point, he has every chance to look like he knows what he's talking about, but instead decides to plug his ears and say "nope" just because some other group does that sometimes. He's not teaching us a lesson. He's showing us that he's just as bad as the feminists that you also don't like. If he wants to make a real point, he…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 08:06 PM
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I mean you can't just go out full force Galesburg and say "you have a nice ass" to every nice ass woman you see. In 99% of cases, that gets you nowhere. Flirting just kinda has to flow naturally. Someone chatting with you a while and you toss them a compliment, but with an added bit of tone to make it playfully suggestive. Not creepy, not crass, but with an implication of more that just a "nice shirt." You like the shirt on them not just in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 06:20 PM
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Flirting is really just the complimentary, friendly conversations between two people. It happens...a lot. I mean what are you looking for here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 05:48 PM
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I'm not saying they don't exist. I'm saying you're acting in an immature fashion reacting only to Ill-thought out arguments. You even said in another comment you're gonna "play the feminist card and call it sexist without watching it." You and I both know there are feminists and non feminists alike who will give thoughtful negative reviews on that movie, but because of a few shitty ones you stomp your feet and declare any other opposing viewpoint similarly sexist without watching/listening. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 05:41 PM
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This thread is ripe with men saying "well there are some women who plug their ears and cry sexism whenever I talk, so I don't feel like putting in a counter argument or even listening to your viewpoint here."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 03:30 PM
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You're cherry picking arguments that just say "nope" and refuting those. You're fighting immaturity with immaturity. There are plenty more in depth analyses on that movie. So, you can sit with the tumblr feminists and just yell "nope" and "sexism" all you want to each other without getting anything done, or you can hang out at the big kids table where people can actually discuss countering viewpoints with supported arguments and thorough reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 03:27 PM
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Okay, brain function aside then you still say that it's relating to winning a competition?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 02:38 PM
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So, the dopamine release comes from winning then? That's what you're saying in the last paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 11:48 AM
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So, let me see if I have your argument right. In the past, those with power typically would have their frequent pick of the best women to sleep with, and for the women, it was thought to be an honor to be impregnated by the high king. Therefore, those who wanted power did so because they too wanted their pick of women. This is something that we can generally agree on. However, nowadays that divide isn't there. However people still yearn for power, and they do so because of the sex driven motivat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 11:10 AM
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Not being a provider? You can live your life and be around women without paying for it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 01:21 AM
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This is assuming there is only the option of one or the other
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 12:54 AM
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Social awkwardness and general gangliness in appearance 24, nearly 25 Now I might put myself at a generous 8, realistic 7. When I was 24 I was about a 6 6'7, white Probably about an 8. We met when we were drunk at a bar and became friends over the next few days. In that time before we met I had been working on my appearance and social skills. Over the next few days we got close, and on a particular night I was looking especially good. We talked, I told her I was a virgin, and she offered to take…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 11:06 PM
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But who says the motivation is sex and not just power and wealth? What justifies that sex is the end game?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 03:56 PM
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And I ask you again how do you figure the drive is still there? You only give examples of how it used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 02:13 PM
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Before, yes. Would you have stronger and healthier offspring the more resources you have today? Likely, yes. But the divide is not nearly as prominent today, not by a long shot. People's goals are largely driven by ego and desire for power, and that's the end goal. Not "be the most powerful so I can have the best sex," or "be the most powerful so I can have the most kids," but "be the most powerful so I can be the most powerful."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 01:59 PM
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No? Again, to my point before, you don't have to be rich and powerful to have sex, even quality sex. And yet people still work for those goals. Similarly, many top positions in certain fields arguably give minimum (at best) help in the realm of sexual attraction, yet people still work for those goals as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 01:31 PM
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How do you figure we haven't? Also, let's leave that whole "alpha begets alpha" bullshit for another discussion. We aren't wolves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 12:25 PM
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Christ pal you don't have the authority to tell me what is a lie and what isn't, regarding what happens in my own life. What reason do you have to believe that I am lying? And yes, I get the difference between those two things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 11:56 AM
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Sure, back then it was more prevalent that the high kings and leaders would have more sex. Or, like Ghengis, would (likely) rape his way across conquering nations. Today doesn't really have that divide though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 11:55 AM
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During my omegle phase in life, the majority of the fulfilling conversations I had on that site were people who were, or at least claiming to be, women. Can you detail why you think I'm falling prey to the "women are wonderful effect"? Is it just because I sided against men on this one argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 05:51 PM
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Considering that it's a subjective opinion, then the user is absolutely correct that they find men more boring. I also think men are, overall, less exciting than women. That's my opinion on the matter. I don't need science to support an opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 05:23 PM
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Yeah, and you know what I do? Apply critical thinking and self control to cut her out. I refuse to have people like that in my life, so it's not hard to avoid senseless physical outbursts. To fall to petty shit like that is to admit your inferiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 05:19 PM
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It's easy to see that being the leader is not a requirement to having sex, and yet people still reach those goals. Because of ego and desire to be the one with control.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 03:27 PM
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But sex is a result of any behavior, history has shown. It's not only leaders that get sex, and that's especially true today.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 03:16 PM
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Selfishness, yes. It's not crystal clear. You can assume it all you want. Yes some people's goals are motivated by sex. But to say it's the root of everything is a farce.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 02:59 PM
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Ego. It's motivated by ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 02:21 PM
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Immortality. Being remembered. Fame. I just talked about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 01:24 PM
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And I believe that it's all rooted in the desire to be recognized as the best, not sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 11:50 AM
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...what in the hell are you talking about? Where is this coming from? You're making so many leaps in logic I can't keep up. Listen, I'm just gonna make it real easy: once a guy does something that is "niceguy" behavior (calling women cunts for dating someone other than him), then that's a "niceguy." That's it. It's that simple. It's not "those I feel are beneath me," or "those that don't share my ideals," it's guys who take a rejection immaturely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 11:48 AM
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I really don't see where you're getting such extreme viewpoints from my post. Blaming men for everything? At war? Laughable. As I said, most people are nice people. Now nobody is any certain thing 100% of the time, this is true. People are fluid. Nice people have moments of temper flares or get a little dickish when they drink. That happens. All I'm saying is that the stereotypical "Niceguy" behavior stems from guys who are putting women on a pedestal, and saying things like "why don't cunts lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 10:36 PM
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Who's that and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 10:24 PM
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Who tells you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 08:11 PM
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Of course not. Not being fat is like being nice. It's the base of what a person really should be. If I asked my friend to describe a guy she met and the first adjectives were "nice, and not fat," I wouldn't be impressed. You have to be interesting. You have to be intelligent. You have to look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 08:10 PM
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How do you figure that most women can go years without sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 07:57 PM
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You might be lame
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 07:56 PM
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I'd draw the line at multiple solo outings. Other than that I put trust in my partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 06:28 PM
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To be recognized. To be "immortal." To have people know your name. We're ego driven.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 04:09 PM
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People desire recognition through success. We are competitive to be the best. I don't think that's rooted in sex, I think that's just a fringe benefit. I think it's just rooted in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 02:23 PM
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...men like video games because sex? That's a hell of a leap.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 12:27 PM
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Inexperience
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 02:00 PM
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Says who? Not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 02:00 AM
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 06:10 PM
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Brunettes, on the taller side generally, but not exclusively, slim/athletic build, and smart. That's my usual type. Also a sucker for glasses. As far as beauty, I mean a woman who takes good care of herself is usually beautiful to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 03:35 PM
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What I'm saying is there's no hero in this tale, but if he's getting bent out of shape about a shitty handjob he's got a long tough life ahead of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 03:33 PM
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I mean it's just an awkward scenario created by both parties. Nobody necessarily should apologize, but it'd be a lot nicer to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 02:53 PM
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He coerced doing it in the bathroom. Look I get that he got hurt from a handy and that's awkward and it sucks. And yes on the surface you might expect her to apologize for hurting him. But you can't expect her to be some handjob goddess when she hadn't even touched a dick before. Shits gonna be awkward and hurt. It's happened to me too. She shouldn't really have to apologize, but it might be nice to for hurting him. It'd also be nice for him to apologize for creating a painfully awkward scenario…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 02:45 PM
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I mean these are kids. If she was coercing him into something that he's never done before then yeah, it's gonna suck. My first time was shit too and she apologized to me because it was weird and she got frustrated and had to do it herself. I apologized to her because it was weird and she didn't get off. Both of them were being awkward. She understandably gave a shit handjob because she's never done it before, he's upset with her for not knowing how to do something she's never done. Both contribu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 02:26 PM
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Because of mob mentality, I guess. People are laying shit on him hard, he deserves a fraction of it. However I would say if I were in his shoes I would apologize for how awkward it was. The girl was probably fucking mortified, and it's not her fault she gave a shitty handjob.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 02:14 PM
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I mean, the way he writes about it is super weird and "letter to penthouse", but I digress. Dude had a lot of expectations for someone who had no idea what she was doing. He expected this woman to have perfect handy skills and already be naked when he comes in the bathroom and not be fucking terrible her first time? They were 18 and inexperienced. Shit's gonna go wrong. Nobody is really "blame worthy" here, but he's complaining about nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 01:55 PM
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Yeah. I think there's three real definitions here: 1) Guys who are fun to be around, generally well-liked, and polite to his friends and strangers, are guys who are being nice. Those are nice people.this is where most people generally fit. 2) "Betas" who don't have a lot going for them, whether they be unattractive or boring or antisocial or some combination of the three, but otherwise well-intentioned guys, may be given a sympathy comment of "well, he's a nice boy." These are the guys who will …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 01:50 PM
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Wow I couldn't disagree more with all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 01:14 AM
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If you're not responding to them in hopes that he starts second guessing their own sanity, then yes. It's about intention. Good spin on my words though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 01:09 AM
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It's not just by being, but by actively deciding to when there's something you do wrong in order to make her question shit. I mean I'm unresponsive when someone I don't care to talk to says hi to me, that's not gaslighting. But smirking and saying nothing when someone's pissed at me just to make them mentally break is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 12:33 AM
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How is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 12:24 AM
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As I said, I'm influenced by society, but when I care to do something I won't let the opinions of others stop me. I have little desire to wear a skirt every day, but I've worn skirts before a number of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 08:59 PM
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ENFP male. Prefer to learn through experience. A story tells me a specific situation, instructions are for IKEA furniture. My own trials in my own life among the people I associate with will give me the best knowledge to use later on. Anyone else's instruction/story can only take me so far, but since any interaction with any person on any given day will be different, these won't help me as much as my own processes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 06:57 PM
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I don't feel affected by expectations at all. I'm fine to be my own man, date and act how I please. I'm definitely influenced by society, but I never really got the phrase "that's what a man should do."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 06:54 PM
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It's douchey when you're putting on a front. It's douchey when in the back of your mind or to your friends when she walks away is talking about your next move on what "nice thing" you're gonna do next to get her home. It's douchey when you turn around and say "well you're fat anyway I was just looking for an easy lay."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 04:46 PM
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When I was last in love it was just a total dopamine rush and mind fuck. I couldn't not think about her and I wanted to talk to her every day. It's a great feeling and I can't wait for it to happen again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 03:32 PM
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This sub isn't here to talk about sexual strategies solely. I'm here to debate with people. Also, the point of TBP is only to make fun of TRP. That's why it was created. Not to exchange tips. Everyone wants sex, yes. But not everything that everyone does is rooted into getting it. I don't say thank you and tip my waitress to have sex with her. I don't hold the door open for the family behind me to have sex with them. I don't compliment the party host's house to have sex with him. I do that becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 03:31 PM
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I've seen posts where guys intentionally act unresponsive and cold and state their strategy is to make their partner question whether or not there's anything to be mad about. So yes, gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:11 PM
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Being nice isn't a "strategy," it's just something people should be. People who are nice will usually find themselves in good company because those people are enjoyable to be around, sure. People who use it as some sort of "strategy" though aren't actually nice. They're being douchey. If you want to put everything in boxes as good and bad "strategies," then by all means carry on. I choose not to live with that sort of unnecessary mental work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:09 PM
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lol what a load of crock.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 11:47 AM
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If you're taking it more center then I can appreciate that. I think there is some value to the base level principles, but I think a) you could learn those anywhere and b) the fans turn me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 03:28 AM
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I've seen mind games talked about that are actively attacking, not "dealing with shit tests." Also the fact that almost anything a woman has said is labeled as "shit test" is retarded. You're great at twisting words into your meanings, and if this is what you believe it is then yeah that's good. But when I read "emotionally cold and distant" then that's what I see t meaning. If it means "be mature and don't get too heated up," then call it that. If that's what you see as the world, in this two w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 02:35 AM
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But it's advocated and many guys talk about it and exchange tips on how to be better. I don't care if not all do it. Not all are fucking women either. Mind games aren't something that all collective women have a guide for. Immoral is something unquestionably wrong to do. Douchey is just things I don't like and it makes me cringe to see. I would describe murder as immoral, or burglary as immoral, or poison someone's drink as immoral. I would call actively separating girls from their friends, call…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 02:32 AM
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No man. Nice men are nice men. The nice men who are secretly douche bags who are just seething with misogyny after rejection are "niceguys." You can be nice without being a fucking weirdo who is doing it as a sort of act. And yes, it's pretty easy to spot the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 02:21 AM
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Yes, it is the equivalent. But this isn't all women doing this. The couples who play mindgames can go fuck each other and I'll be just fines with the level headed women who remain Immoral is strong. Douchey is a better word. And I also don't think they work on the women you'd want to be involved with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 02:19 AM
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Yes I guess that's true. And frankly I do it too, but I think the description of it and the process of it just never registered positively with me. Yes I have casual sex, but actively trying to "spin plates" just seems so asinine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 02:17 AM
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Lol pretending that life is some warped shit where everyone's playing mind games. "If you're not playing them you're losing them." What a joke. Gaslighting has often been used in posts where you lie and manipulate to make the wife/girlfriend question her own sanity. Being unresponsive and cold when she's pissed at you so she gets emotionally confused, instead of talking like actual adults. Objectification is used very blatantly by using HB# or plate or slut to refer to women. It's so commonplace
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 02:15 AM
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Eh, no I wouldn't agree. My friends and I normally are out to have fun, not necessarily get laid. I don't get what you mean by women not liking it though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:43 AM
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It isn't. Which is why it's not trademarked by TRP. This is advice you can get anywhere. The difference is the objectification, plate spinning, mind games and gaslighting. Those are aspects talked about in TRP that I don't agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:41 AM
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Women, like many people, so enjoy the company of those who are nice to them. They'll also enjoy sex with someone who is physically attractive. So someone who they want to have sex with and still spend the morning after with is going to be sexually and emotionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:39 AM
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Nice isn't sexually attractive (at least I wouldn't think it would be, I'm no lady), but it is emotionally attractive. And if you are a sexually attractive nice guy, you'll do wonders.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:32 AM
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What the flying fuck. It feels like sticking my wiener in a microwaved ham sandwich. What do you want from this? Am I taking the SAT?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:29 AM
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Be attractive, be fun, be interesting. There are always ways for you to look more attractive, whether it be by diet and exercise or by dressing in nicer/better fitting clothes. Be engaging and the light of a party or conversation. Be someone with ideas and someone who keeps energy high. Be social. Get it with friends, join organizations, socialize with everyone, not just women you want to plow. Build a network of people you can connect and go out with. A fun guy in a group will always be more at…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:28 AM
1

What? I'm not sure if you missed a word but I'm not sure what you're saying
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 01:19 AM
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I see guys acting like the field reports all the time getting rejected by plenty of women until he finds one drunk enough. If that's what you call success, then sure, but I have a bit more dignity than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 12:43 AM
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I take them with scores of grains of salt. They sound very much like the conversations you have with yourself afterwards in the shower.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 12:42 AM
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The latter. Not long ago I realized I'd look better with a fuller frame, so I started lifting. I saw clothes that I looked better in, so I worked harder to make more money so I could afford a wardrobe full of them. Things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 12:41 AM
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I've seen it before, but not often. A few women I know have dated men 15+ years their senior. One led to marriage, the others were temporary and the next guy they dated was closer in age. It happens with some women for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 12:15 AM
1

I don't really see this at all. Can you point out some examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 12:13 AM
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"Being nice" isn't being nice. The niceguy trope is mocked because it's someone who feigns being nice just to get in someone's pants. Being nice should never be a sexual strategy, it should just be something that you do for everyone. Similarly, being a raging douche isn't the same as being confident. Many field reports I've read, if they proceed exactly as described, is being a cock rather than being smooth and confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 12:13 AM
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I don't really use other men as inspiration. That doesn't really work for me personally. But that is generally good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 12:10 AM
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I mean, I'll recognize men for being more in shape than I am, or that the dress well/shitty, but I wouldn't say I use them as a sort of inspiration at the gym
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 10:55 PM
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERES NO CHEAT CODE
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 07:09 PM
2

People watching I mostly use for entertainment, rather than a form of study. I sometimes can learn things about couples or about individuals, and I guess maybe I subconsciously let it affect my behavior, but I'm not actively taking notes or thinking things like "that looks good, I should do that."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 06:51 PM
3

So essentially it's just reading a room?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 06:48 PM
1

So someone who's charming and interesting?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 06:36 PM
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Both have their negatives, but I think someone who's emotionally distant has potential for more damaging and long term effects. Being in a relationship with someone emotionally distant can really cause self esteem issues that will hurt more in the long run, and especially if they're someone who still wants to keep you at arms reach it can be pretty manipulating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:31 PM
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I get what you're saying, but I just don't agree with it from my own observations. I see tall, successful, fit guys strike out all the time to women who go in favor of men who don't have that kind of high status look to them. Immediate attraction is going to be caused by looks for both parties, but I've found that women tend to be a bit less superficial as interactions progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:28 PM
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Your opinion is "if it's the law then yes, if not then no." But the question is do you think it should be the law for men to know if they are the father of their child?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:00 PM
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Actually after I wrote that I was tempted to put taxidermist in the category with cellist/CEO/climber. The difference is dedication. Being a great climber doesn't happen overnight. It takes training and discipline. You need to work out regularly and keep yourself fit. Being a CEO requires being good at your job day in and day out, and making the right moves. Being a concert cellist requires constant practice and dexterity, and the end result can be quite moving. Meanwhile I have one friend who l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 12:13 AM
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Right. Drive shows having their life together and organized, but drive towards something like being a CEO or a concert cellist or an elite mountain climber is likely going to be more attractive than drive towards being the best rubix cube solver or taxidermist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 10:45 PM
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I don't think it's about money, it's about dedication to something meaningful. Art, to many, is meaningful. KD ratio in Call of Duty, to many, isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 09:52 PM
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Someone who is successful at video games is not what I mean. But an artist or someone who works for non-profits, jobs that do not exactly rake in the dough, are still attractive if the person is showing their passion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 09:24 PM
2

Not necessarily. Some jobs do not have a six figure paycheck but will still be attractive to me for the drive they're putting in.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 09:22 PM
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For me, a four year degree is not a requirement, but I'm looking for my partner to be successful and driven. With many careers, that does not require a four year degree so their passion and drive can still very much be on the table, but someone who has gone through higher education to get a respectable career is going to get my attention a bit easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:46 PM
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Right. I think there are plenty of reasons to deny that request, whether it be drugs, distance, or money. She should have done a firm no.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:34 PM
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Reading the story, a person who is uncomfortable doing something is in no way obligated to fulfill the request of another. If I were the man, one instance of her saying "no, not happening" means I'm dropping the issue. The only problem I have with her reaction is that she eventually caved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:54 PM
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I can't fathom a reason why I wouldn't. Do you have any reasons why it'd be a good idea not to?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:46 PM
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I'm a man, but I may. It depends on the relationship. I don't buy shit for people until there's an established trust that I'm not just gonna be getting mooched. The purchase isn't the issue. I'm giving the same answer if my SO asked if I'd buy her lunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:44 PM
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I've been groped at bars, but I don't think I've ever been catcalled (by a woman at least). I will say that the times I was groped I did not appreciate. And in one particular scenario, she did not appreciate me reacting negatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 04:45 PM
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It's not that it's necessarily "noble," but the base of it is some women like you and some women don't. It's not that complicated. I don't see what the issue is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 04:43 PM
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I lost my virginity at 24. At this stage in my life, I have no regrets regarding this and am totally satisfied with the amount of women I've been with. After my first time, I guess I gained confidence, but it's hard to say/perceive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 12:13 PM
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Odd? Shallow? Maybe. Immoral? Not by a long shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 12:11 PM
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No, not just physical. My next sentence illustrated that. Again, I'm not saying that these things are not valued. I absolutely believe though how much money a man makes is not the primary concern for most women. I believe it based on the relationships I've seen in my life and every day around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 12:01 AM
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People are social creatures. There is always a desire for connection, and shared intimacy. While that intimacy can be shared physically, and these may stem from physical stimulation, people stay in relationships for the shared intimacy with each other. Of course there are more superficial relationships rooted in just sex or money, but not most.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:15 PM
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I didn't say that at all. I said that people don't just get in relationships for sex/status. I think that's a very shallow view of things that hardly applies to the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:09 PM
3

What do you mean get a girl's time?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:08 PM
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It's a laughable one. Sure that's the case with some but to think that's the majority is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:59 PM
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Lol how do you figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:58 PM
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The assumption that a person is only in a relationship for sex/status is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:35 PM
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Sure I do. I have every right to pick and choose. But for me a perfect woman could still be quite short. I tend to prefer on the taller side, but I've definitely dated as short as 5'1
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:33 PM
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I'm a 6'7 male. I don't know how into a taller-than-I girl I would be, but I would definitely date a woman over 6 foot. Maybe cap it at 6'2? There's no minimum requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 08:25 PM
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Yeah from what I've gathered my dating league is pretty solid. Girls who I've taken home after drinking on the other hand...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 08:23 PM
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Slang for a loose woman. So when you say whore you mean actual prostitute?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:13 AM
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When was 30?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:12 AM
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I'm a late 20s male. I'm 22-25. I can name (almost) every woman I've had sex with, save for the one who wanted to keep it discrete. I honestly have never regretted the number or wanted any more. Sex is great, sure, but I hardly consider it contributing to my overall status or happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:05 AM
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You also don't seem to respond to anybody's points.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 05:38 PM
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I don't believe it to be a critical aspect of existence by any stretch of the imagination
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 05:36 PM
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You know, I only experience that from one side
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 02:29 AM
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Very much agree. There will be a highly upvoted comment with one idea, and a similarly agreed upon post detailing the opposite. The times I quote top RP posts I've often heard "that's not really RP"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 04:07 PM
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No I mean what suffering does it lead to? It's not suffering just because it's suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 02:03 AM
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Why does it lead to suffering?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 01:04 AM
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I think the "shouldn't it be..." is more along the lines of "doesn't it make sense that..." Why doesn't the situation allow for you to be hypergamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 11:28 PM
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Of a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 10:55 PM
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Are you saying you don't seek the best option available to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 10:49 PM
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Mentally yes. Physical gifts can give you height and bone structure, and maybe a slight edge in metabolism. Nobody is "naturally" a gifted athlete. Nobody "naturally" has friends. Nobody "naturally" gets good grades. You worked for it, believe it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 10:25 PM
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Sure sure. And they just naturally dress well? Their muscles are just genetic? They were born with a social network?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 10:14 PM
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What's not on here? Here where? This sub? The internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:48 PM
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I don't think anyone would say it the way you did, but men are more likely to brag about how much they make a girl cum than her gagging on his dick. I don't think I've ever heard anyone in real life brag about that, and I was in a fraternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:39 PM
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I couldn't disagree with you more. But what does this have to do with your "I ate her out all night" comment? What's the tie in?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:20 PM
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So what's the point of your comment then? What's the argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:07 PM
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Is that getting away with something at someone else's expense? You're off your rocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 06:47 PM
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The cream of the crop don't get there by not trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 05:34 PM
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I don't see how this is specifically men viewed by women. Everyone likes to be around charming, funny, and interesting people. Men will like that about other men, men will like that about other women, women will like that about men, bosses will like that out of employees, and so on. I don't see how being interesting and charming is "dancing monkey" behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 05:34 PM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 11:58 AM
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Hahahaha you don't talk to a large amount of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 12:11 AM
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Hard disagree on this one. I'd be much more into it knowing she enjoyed it. In fact, if I knew a woman didn't enjoy it and was just faking it I'd end the relationship real quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 09:22 PM
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These threads are only going to be met with responses saying "no she's not pretty you idiot"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 06:44 PM
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Mid-late 20s man living in Chicago, engineer. Enjoy booze and pot. Very social, but lately have been keeping it to myself at home just to recharge. Into film, music, and the outdoors. I find certain viewpoints fascinating, particularly I enjoy questioning those who's views I see totally backwards from my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 06:10 PM
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I choose to disagree with your hypothesis. I've known people who lives that lifestyle for a bit, and in most every case they aren't actually happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 02:17 PM
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As someone who took that route for a while, it's not as great as everyone thinks it would be. Some would thrive, sure, but it sucks. I could retire right now if I wanted to spend my life eating rice and beans, but that's not what I want at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 01:26 PM
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Oh give me a break. You can't sit there and tell me that nobody truly enjoys what they do and enjoys being successful in a workforce that they chose willingly to be apart of every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 12:02 PM
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Pass, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 02:46 AM
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6/10 troll. Good not great.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 02:24 AM
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Well...you sure do sound interesting...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 01:48 AM
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Doesn't everyone want to feel special?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 01:09 AM
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I stand by my previous statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 12:06 AM
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Every woman who disproves RP/Incel's theories are just exceptions that prove the rule. Or at least that's what they tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 11:42 PM
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Everyone I've talked to in person who says that is far from the best version of themselves, purely in a physical sense. I have little reason to believe people online are any different.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 11:40 PM
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For watches, shoes, or cars, sure. If there's something I can get for free by just being a better version of me then it's a no brainer
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 10:44 PM
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Not a chance. I lost mine when I was coming up on 25. The thought of paying for it never crossed my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 07:07 PM
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You're getting off track here. The article you posted has very little to do with men being around a child and much more to do with the parent of the child overreacting to seeing her with a stranger. There is a stark difference here. When I say sharing responsibility, you dating a single mother and walking around with that child will have less likelihood of problems arising, as the girlfriend/friends are all aware that you are a familiar adult. You won't have a father beating you up for taking hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 05:15 PM
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How do you figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 05:07 PM
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Everyone wants to fuck, very few want to fuck someone they're unattracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 05:06 PM
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Everyone wants to fuck, very few want to fuck someone they're unattracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 05:03 PM
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But a man dating a single mom is then sharing responsibility of this child. The reason for the story is that the parents who were actually responsible freaked out and overreacted. When dating a single parent, you are partly responsible. Any third party who overreacts seeing a man with a child would likely not react any differently if the child is actually yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 03:15 PM
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I fail to see what this story has to do with dating single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 02:21 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 02:18 PM
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That's far from the definition of entitlement. People who think they deserve something without doing anything for it are entitled. Incels exhibit this, as well as (admittedly) some unattractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 02:18 PM
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There's fun sex, and then there's passionate sex. Both are great in their own right, but it's two different kinds of enjoyment. Personally I can't have passionate sex with someone I'm not emotionally connected with, and I tend to enjoy passionate sex a bit more
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 01:51 AM
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Correct. But I can consider non related women to be physically attractive and still not feel the need/urge/want to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 04:25 PM
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Not really the same for me. I consider my sisters to be objectively attractive people, I can recognize my male friends as being attractive people. I have no desire to fuck any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 03:49 PM
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IF. But the user said "all male friends," so I fail to see why I'm an orbiter if the condition you pose doesn't apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 03:39 PM
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In what sense? I have many female friends, several of which I'd consider attractive. How am I an orbiter?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 03:21 PM
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I've seen it only in the sense that there is a guy who does that with everyone. He essentially tries to buy favor by paying for meals/extra rounds of beer. He's more likely to do it with women, but he does it for everyone because I think he knows deep down his personality sucks. I've seen men try and do this with women I know, but most all of them refuse these gifts or don't let it last long (a few beers here and there is no big deal, but if it's persistent she lets him know that she's not inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 03:20 PM
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She may not have ever been exclusive with this guy. Dating in your 20s is going to be filled with unserious flings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 05:52 AM
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Having sex seems like a win to me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 03:18 AM
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I mean you failed to illustrate your point at all when I asked. it's not far fetched to believe that women are chasing casual sex because they get pleasure from it, and you responded with a laughing emoji instead of offering a counterpoint, so logically it can be assumed that you don't agree that women are seeking physical pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 12:40 AM
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Haha what is this. How in the world do you figure that 80% of men are objectively unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 11:45 PM
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Wait where are you jumping to misogyny? Sex can be used for leverage just as any favor, service, gift, or whatever. But generally speaking sex is an enjoyable activity for both parties (provided both parties are good at it). In most circumstances, sex is had because, and solely because, both participants are horny and want to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 09:51 PM
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This implies there is some loss or deserved cost for the sex that women are experiencing, and that isn't the case. If you want to give something away, and someone is willing to take it, then yes this is a good deal for everyone. This applies to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 09:17 PM
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"Women don't enjoy sex because they aren't calling me back."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 08:33 PM
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I did. Do you genuinely not think that women enjoy sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 08:32 PM
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Do you think women don't enjoy sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 08:01 PM
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Probably by getting sex. I don't think the answer is any more complex than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 07:24 PM
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I do talk to non liberal women. I'm from a pretty conservative background. So the top 10% of women are the only ones getting good men then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 05:22 PM
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Generally, though, it is. Now women may be more attracted to higher status men, and any person can agree that they'd rather have sex with someone they're attracted to, but people, on a general scale, have sex because sex is enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 05:07 PM
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I see it plenty. I have a large population of male friends from college and now, some attractive some not. Obviously some are better than others, but nearly all of them have had flings with women at some time or another who are arguably more attractive. Similarly, two of my close male friends are in serious relationships with significantly more attractive women. And before you say what most everyone else says in response, on both cases the woman is making more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:48 PM
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I'm not following.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:45 PM
3

...well women are women. Men are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:37 PM
1

How do you explain men having casual sex with women out of their league?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:36 PM
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So I'm not sure if I can picture what you mean here. Because differences will make people unequal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:36 PM
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Women don't just want sex from someone because they're higher status. Generally, women want sex from someone because they like sex. If every man was lower status than every woman, they would still find some men attractive enough to have sex with them, because people enjoy intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 03:24 PM
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Hard pass on that. I fuck women i am attracted to and care to spend time with. If every girl was the same I'd get bored rill quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 03:21 PM
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The people who it "works" on are likely to have sex with your regardless of your "technique." Being sociable and interesting, as well as physically attractive to the woman, is typically enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 01:26 PM
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Couldn't disagree more. My friends circle are many guys who are non white and/or shorter than 6 feet. Some of them get laid twice a week. The sooner you stop blaming it on things you actually can't change, the sooner you'll learn how to actually improve yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 08:28 PM
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One girl I dated in college I'd say was below my league purely on looks alone. It didn't work out for other reasons, but she's still one of my best friends to this day so it didn't make anything change from my end at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 06:49 PM
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Free will is the ability for a person to choose what they wish, freely. Outside influence does not change free will, only affects what a person is more likely to choose. This doesn't negate free will, as a person is always free to choose one option over another.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 05:38 PM
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I mean, sort of. You wrote a lot of fortune cookie bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 01:52 PM
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You're stoned. Also you're weak. No denying either of those at this point in the night.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 05:56 AM
2

Depends if you're someone who would be fun to be committed with. What makes you(r friend) interesting?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 03:24 AM
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You assume I don't have free will? Tell me what is controlling me, if not my own decisions. Is it women? Tell me it's women. That'd be hilarious. Please say your answer is women, since that's what this thread is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 03:09 AM
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If you can't control your animalistic nature, then you're weak. If you can't control a rumored aspect of yourself dictated by ancient text, you're weak. You're weak. It's fine to admit this. But to blame the lack of success on the existence of women is not only weak, but also a cop out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 09:01 PM
1

Damn right
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 08:59 PM
1

Oh wow what a red flag to keep in mind!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 05:34 PM
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Man you really can't control yourself. You sound weak as shit. This doesn't apply to every man, thankfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 01:59 PM
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But no self control. So...weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 01:40 PM
1

It's absolutely a joke. OP isn't gonna derive anything from this
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 12:44 PM
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I put the whole thing down, lid and all, every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 12:43 PM
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Intelligence, drive, humor, desire for adventure, long legs is a plus
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 10:49 AM
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I have no idea how this makes sense. You're high value when a woman is attracted to you, I thought. If what you say is true, incels would have no trouble getting casual sex, as they are self proclaimed low value men. I've been with women who are insatiable for sex and want relationships with me. Am I neutral value then?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 02:16 AM
2

So you're saying men are weak?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 12:12 AM
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On top of everything, he preaches his philosophy on how women in relationships are and how they're so superficial, when on the surface he's gross and personality wise he's worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 08:50 PM
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Easily the best date I've ever given for anyone. For both of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 08:49 PM
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A buddy is mine is unsuccessful because he's unattractive, dirty, dramatic, clingy, and he shoots way higher than he should. Dude is unkempt and fat, and fixing those alone would do him wonders. He's broke and refuses to learn how to manage money and improve himself, despite many trying desperately to help him. He makes mountains out of molehills and will get physical if things don't go his way. On top of all this, he goes for nice, gorgeous women who give him any sort of smile or show kindness.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 05:10 PM
5

Why is happiness and rape so tightly related to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 03:59 PM
2

A 300 some dollar trip snorkeling in the Georgia Aquarium followed by a very nice seafood dinner when I was in college. Whole night probably cost me between 5-600.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 11:55 AM
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Average men will have to work hard to have sex with above average women. This should not be news.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 11:54 AM
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I mean, in high school I just started to not do things for others and do things for me. Start getting into shit I enjoyed because I wanted to do it. After that I started making real friends who liked me for who I was instead of trying to be someone and feeling like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 01:52 AM
1

"My view is right, and if it's not, then you're just the exception."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 01:28 AM
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Holy fuck these posts amount to zero. Here's the thing: if you're posting these threads, you're insecure. You might also be ugly. Suck it up and just be more interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 12:55 AM
1

Then you're likely to be victim of confirmation bias. If you see someone as an untrustworthy person without knowing them, our will likely seek reasons or actions that will support your point rather than looking at the person as an individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 12:53 AM
2

Of life in general? Sure. I've done some good work, made a good career path for myself, established a solid network of friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 12:52 AM
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In what sense? I feel positive about where I am in life right now. I'm comfortable in my current financial and living status.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:34 PM
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Yes. If she were male, would you take the words at face value?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:26 PM
5

I for one feel totally neutral about my history. I lived it and it's part of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:25 PM
2

That there are women who are direct? Yeah it's not as uncommon as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 09:33 PM
2

That's becoming increasingly less so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 09:32 PM
2

How you treat them shouldn't really affect how they act in general, but it very well may change how they act around you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 09:31 PM
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Nothing is ever just you, in any single characteristic. But what they are saying is that your opinion is your own. Other people may share it, but it's just yours (and, respectively, theirs). A woman is devalued for a reason to you. Maybe also to him, or to him, but this is not something you can be certain of just because of your own opinion or even the opinions of a small online community.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 08:37 PM
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I think your findings and viewings come from paranoia. I don't see it happen nearly as often as you think. If you honestly can't take what someone says directly, solely because of their gender, you're paranoid of what they secretly mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 08:32 PM
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It's probably because you hang out with women who do that. I don't need practice with frustrating people to be good at it with people who matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 08:07 PM
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Again, that just sounds like total paranoia. But you do you man. If you feel like every sentence has some cryptic meaning, intentional or not, have fun easing the extra mental energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 07:54 PM
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Trick question, no situation is a dealbreaker
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 07:37 PM
1

Depends on the situation
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 07:32 PM
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Whoever created it and whoever enforced it is just insecure, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 07:32 PM
2

...I'm not sure I follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 07:10 PM
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My life in a relationship is not like this, so I'm equally confused. In past relationships, I treat my girlfriend to things, and she treats me to things. We would keep things relatively equal based on status.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 07:04 PM
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Some women do, some women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 07:02 PM
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I'm not looking for a woman who is aggressive, as if she's super high T. But there are shades of it I can tolerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 07:01 PM
2

Hahaha holy shit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 06:55 PM
1

But i do, because I've gotten it from many of my relationships with women, romantic or otherwise. I'm not going to settle for something negative and pretend it's fine because it's the only option.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 06:28 PM
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In my opinion it does, but that's you and that's me. If you believe that women are inherently sociopaths that's pretty paranoid, I think. Your second paragraph is just so contradicting to me, but if it works for you then have at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 06:27 PM
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I couldn't live with myself being that paranoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 05:54 PM
2

The nice thing about mind games is I can recognize them and I don't tolerate them. I don't care to be around women who consistently play them. Strangely enough I still have plenty of non-butch non-lesbian friends and hookups to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 05:37 PM
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Lol well I wouldn't call the women I've been with butch lesbians by any stretch of the imagination but you believe what you want. Any person has some moments of irrationality, sure. But consistent logical fallacy and willingness to intentionally play mind games are women I've chosen not to be with. There are women I've been with/know who don't exhibit those traits that are common enough that I've deduced that this is not an unreasonable ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 05:24 PM
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If I were gay, then yes. There are women I've been with who don't play mind games, so it's not like they are some non-entity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 04:52 PM
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A woman who tests is not a woman I'm concerned with having in my life, so that's where we likely deviate. I don't care to have irrationality in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 04:17 PM
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According to your proposed system, you mean. I consider myself average to above average in looks, so maybe that's true, maybe that's not. The point is still that another person who sees my picture might say that 50 woman would, and another person may say that 90 women would.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 03:47 PM
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The rating system, especially online where we can't see each other or the people we talk about, is bunk. I might rate myself a 7/10, but I've had an incel tell me I may as well end it now because of how ugly I am. Not out of maliciousness, but he literally told me to give up hope because no woman would love me, and that he hoped I'd end the pain soon. No matter how you slice it, numbers are shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 03:39 PM
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Seriously the times I've been compared to him I've been I compared to him I've been so flattered, but it happens enough. The man can do no wrong. Except the TV show that we do not speak of.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 01:50 PM
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I've heard it and laughed in their face. If they're so concerned with what I drive they're probably insecure themselves.
/r/MGTOW22/06/17 12:15 PM
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1) physically I'd probably rate myself a solid 7, maaaaaaybe an 8 on a good day. I've been compared to John Mulaney in the past in looks and demeanor. 2) not overweight 3) sex with 20 or so women 4) I've had probably 5 serious relationships. I say probably because high school doesn't really count. 5) I'm pretty active in rec sports. I'm in a softball league and am looking to join another sports league soon. Also am signing up for acting classes and/or learning piano. 6) I did hookups in college …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 11:55 AM
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Belittling/not taking them seriously is such an immature way to go about a relationship, in my opinion. Direct communication has always been the way to go in any relationship I've been in. It's a woman, not a dog that needs to be "trained."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 11:42 AM
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Then we're very opposite. Wanting a burden/resource sponge sounds completely illogical and borderline contradicting. I wouldn't want a woman who views me as faultless or superhuman, because I'll just stay content to remain who I am. Who I am is great, but there are always ways to be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 11:40 AM
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I'd rather have a bossy woman than a meek one, if it came down to it. I don't need to be bossed around or nitpicked, but a woman who holds me accountable is a good person to have in my life. A woman who is afraid to speak up, or is content with me working minimum wage, does not inspire me at all. I like someone with the courage to say "these are the dreams you want to pursue, what can we do to make this happen? Let's start now."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 09:16 PM
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What I want out of a girlfriend is a woman who pushes/inspired me to be better. A woman smarter than me and/or more well traveled is ideal, as they are going to be the ones who look for and get more out of me to become a better man. Plus, a woman who travels is not going to shy away from adventure, and will push me to bite the bullet and go on the adventures I don't push myself to go on even though I want to take them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 08:45 PM
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In my history, a man who has a bunch of shirtless pics in his profile, regardless of attraction, is seen as a fucking douche and won't get a positive response out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 08:43 PM
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Because that's usually my standards for a relationship without actually knowing anything about the other person. I know zero about how OP and her partner function, so this is the baseline best advice I can give.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 05:46 PM
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Man, an affluent white cis male such as myself scores a blistering 55/100. Surely the writer of the quiz would agree with these results.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 05:44 PM
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Don't suck, be attractive, have positive experiences together. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 01:56 PM
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Sure, why not? Beauty is very much in the eye of the beholder, and people can be very attracted to the person behind the looks without feeling the need to cheat or use him as an ATM as I'm sure many guys here would suspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 11:47 AM
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I wouldn't think much of it. A lot of people are natural/unintentional flirts, myself included. I recognize when things cross the line with my partner, and I trust them enough to know the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 11:34 PM
1

Man I'm disagreeing with every single side of you now... this is remarkable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 06:44 PM
1

Fair, but it's still not shredded
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 01:48 PM
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I mean I believed my ex too, don't get me wrong. Her reaction to "finally having another guy" get her off was pretty genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 01:21 PM
1

Yeah that's not shredded. That's just skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 01:17 PM
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There is no such thing as natural six pack abs or being naturally shredded. Anybody who thinks they know anyone like this is delusional. It's not possible. You don't get muscles from doing nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 11:54 AM
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Not saying it's gonna be the case for you, and not trying to humblebrag, but I once got a woman off who allegedly had never gotten off before. So maybe with the right guy (or gal) you'll get something going.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 04:01 AM
1

Who the hell is this guy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 10:38 PM
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How do you know they're getting pumped and dumped with just observing them for a few minutes? Is she looking for a relationship or not? Is she just using the guy for sex? Is she expecting a relationship? Did she dump him or he dump her?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 08:50 PM
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Couldn't disagree more. Do taller people have more of an advantage? Sometimes. More in shape people? Yeah definitely. But to say average doesn't cut it is a joke. Seeing these relationships and knowing the people I can confidently say that of the relationships that apply the woman is outearning the man in most scenarios. I also see plenty of average, nice, and interesting dudes have no problem getting casual sex. If I showed you pictures of these guys, you'd probably judge them as one of those g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 06:54 PM
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The constant complaint of "women don't care if you're nice and you have to be 7 feet tall with 3% body fat with 7 figure salary" is such a lame trope at this point. If you take ten seconds to look around at couples it's not hard to find attractive women with all kinds of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 06:40 PM
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Some women may want something more, some women can be looking for some fun sex. Women are probably being perfectly honest about it, but not every woman is after the same thing at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 03:57 PM
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So then...are you answering your own question?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 03:42 PM
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They're not trying to get pumped and dumped. They're trying to find an attractive man to be in a relationship with, and will have sex with them. However, sex with an attractive person is fun, and in many cases a woman can walk away saying "well at least I got a good fuck out of it." Women trying and failing with one guy, sure I can see where you have a question. She's chasing someone who isn't giving her what she wants, and is willfully ignorant that nothing will come of it. Men and women alike …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 03:25 PM
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Odd as it may seem there are hot guys who will not "pump and dump." Not all hot guys are assholes who are just out to use women for sex. Some are looking for a relationship just like anyone else, and women want to find a man like that. It's not unlike men chasing hotter women for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 03:09 PM
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Most definitely prefer no sex. 100% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 07:08 AM
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Subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 07:08 AM
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Some women aren't as cautious, and maybe many of those women are more in the obese category. Desperation could play a role
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 04:26 AM
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In general, men are more willing to have a warm place to stick their dick. Fat, skinny, black, white, some men after enough drinks have no preference. Women tend to be a bit more cautious (for good reason) of who they let penetrate them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 04:15 AM
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Oh my goodness no question about it yes. Women who I've seen as the hottest woman in the room will easily fall out of my range if I hear she's dumb/vapid/petty/needy/etc. similarly, women who are cute enough will get hotter in my eyes if I learn that we jive well together on a deeper level, in conversation, or hobbies, or interests. The explanation is that physical beauty is a primal reaction. We see, we like, we want. But the rest of attraction comes from the desire to spend more time with them…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 09:24 PM
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Not really, no. There are men and women alike who can agree that someone is within the range of 8-10, or 6-9, or whatever. But one woman's 9 is another's 6. Hell, my celebrity crush, bar none, is Judy Greer. Everyone who hears that, at best, will say "oh she's pretty attractive." I don't think anyone has agreed with me. But yeah, the men you posted may very well be seen as a 10 by more women than see me as a 10, but there is no man or woman who everyone will agree to be a 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 09:18 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 05:38 PM
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Any incels in Chicago are welcome for a few rounds on me and some friendship. I've been in your shoes and if you're willing to take advice I'm willing to lend an ear.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 03:57 PM
1

"Nice guys finish last" and all that drivel.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 03:44 PM
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But it's not wanting you. It's seeing someone single and latching on. Nothing about you is actually being wanted at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 03:44 PM
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Online relationships are tough. I've seen on incels men saying "date me then if you're an incel woman," to which she will, sensibly, respond "I don't know anything about you, except that you live far away," which will in turn get venom in response.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 03:30 PM
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Physically, men are generally stronger, by genetic makeup. In situations where a stronger person is needed, generally someone will side with the man. However, situations like these will really depend on the chooser. Realistically the advantage is being stronger, so a stronger woman should logically be chosen over a weaker man. Preconceived notions though will cloud that logical choice in many situations. Similarly, women tend to be more on the creative side, so designer/illustrator requirements …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 03:12 PM
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Nothing in that video gives examples about men in relationships or men you've observed in your own life, unfortunately. A man who succeeds cannot be logically inferred to be a bad man just because he succeeds. The video stating this can only say it's a theory, not fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 03:05 PM
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What about the man who succeeds makes him a bad man? How are you sure that the men who are succeeding aren't good? What examples can you give?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 02:59 PM
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That's about right
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 02:55 PM
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The fact of the matter is getting attention is about looking put together, for both men and women. I'm sorry you can't get by on charm alone, but thems the breaks. Be stubborn all you want, be defiant and true to yourself, and that's all well and good, but it's not fair for you to be frustrated when you're willingly not changing something you easily could. Even in the countryside you're going to find women who like a man put together.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 02:42 PM
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Okay so it doesn't answer my questions: What, to you, defines a good man? The video theorizes why a good man may not succeed, but it doesn't tell me what you define as a good man. What makes you think the men you see succeeding are not good men? Do women like you more?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 02:41 PM
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I'm asking for your answers. A YouTube video is somebody else's answers. If you can't be bothered to support your own arguments then you can just say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 02:28 PM
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If you're looking for the attention of a woman, and surveys have shown that women appreciate a man who dresses well, then by definition fashion isn't a waste of time, by logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 02:25 PM
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What in your mind defines a good man? How do you know the men you do see succeeding are not this definition of good? Do women like you more now?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 02:23 PM
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Do women like you more now? Do you never see characteristically "good" men succeed with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 02:09 PM
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So you're intentionally not a good person. Why is being a good person beta? What aspects about it are beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 01:58 PM
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It's all based on preference. It's important to me. Four women out of five will have a voice that doesn't affect me either way, but occasionally there is a woman with a voice that really can make or break. This may contradict how I'm saying it's important, since the majority of women won't affect, but when it does affect me it's fairly strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 01:45 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 01:42 PM
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That much is very clear
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 01:20 PM
1

Couldn't disagree more. I love voices like that. That vocal fry is really sexy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 12:51 PM
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The basic answer is that it's better to be your own best self. The most successful man in the world and the most successful woman in the world each had their difficulties. Maybe each path was different, maybe it was due to their sex, but being a man will have edge in certain situations as will being a woman. It's moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 11:58 AM
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I think it matters a fair amount. The most attractive woman in the world isn't going to do it for me if she sounds like a valley girl. I couldn't put up with that shit for long. I've turned down women for reasons that mostly include her voice before.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 11:56 AM
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1) data is going to be all over the place. But the assumption that it's only the top 5% of men or whatever having all the sex is ludicrous. 2) blue pill male, 27, n count somewhere in the 20s. All your other questions, some things are easier for men, some easier for women. If you're going to compare everything to how much harder it is due to things you can't control, then you're gonna have a shit time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 04:01 AM
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"I don't find them attractive so therefore you shouldn't find them attractive" is basically what you're saying. And that's ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 01:23 AM
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But wouldn't a logical man see that as manipulation and overcome this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:39 PM
1

But your logical framework depends on others having the same opinions as you perceive them to have, which is illogical in and of itself
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:38 PM
1

What does wit have to do with making babies?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:19 PM
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Bud it's not a jab against you, but there are some super intelligent guys I know that just don't have wit. You do, your friends do, that's great. Some don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:18 PM
1

But that's your logical framework...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:15 PM
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I don't agree with your assessment. Mechanics and politicians differ by social norms in their circles. Blue collar vs white collar comes from upbringing and surrounding culture. A white collar woman and a white collar man would be a better argument, but my conclusions between the two of them don't match yours at all. Women who are professional fighters are strong and athletic, not manly, sorry. Yes people use masculine and feminine language to describe things, that doesn't make it law. People ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/17 07:07 PM
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Preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 03:26 AM
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I'm gonna disagree really firmly on that assessment. Unless you can provide proof that male and female brains as a whole literally process words differently. Directness can often be associated with masculinity, but that can be argued to be affected by social constructs. People who are direct are acting direct, not acting like a man. I didn't say I don't see truth in any religion. There are aspects I agree with and others I don't. Gender roles are ones I don't agree with. Truth != control. Hitler…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 10:36 PM
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Just because I understand someone, doesn't make us alike. I agree entirely with your characteristics. Someone sane is acting sane, not acting like a man, or acting Asian, or acting Lutheran. They're acting sane. So based on creation stories written hundreds and thousands of years ago, you determine what is acting like a man and what is not?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 09:16 PM
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Judging by our exchange I'd call 99% very generous. I think every person has varying degrees of directness and indirectness. To call one "acting male" and the other "acting female" just because one sex may be perceived to exhibit the traits more often is blanketed. If you're saying it's "idiots" calling it "acting like a man," then why do you use the description that idiots do?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 08:34 PM
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Sure, I see that all the time. Not calling the gym rat a whore, but saying he's some roided up douche gets equal scorn from comments. The only difference is the scorn on the comments against a woman get comebacks for being a white knight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 08:30 PM
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What designates this? Why is that not just classified as a woman who is direct? Is it less effective at eliciting desire in general or just from you? Because I've never heard a man complain about a woman being "not cryptic enough."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 07:30 PM
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Actual women that act like women don't fit into the first category? Why would a woman be an idiot for being direct with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 05:22 PM
3

I always roll my eyes at the usage of the term shit test
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 05:20 PM
2

In my LTRs I have this rough lineup, as a man: 1) Began on mine, ended on hers 2) Began on hers, ended on hers 3) Began on mine, ended on hers 4) Began on mine, ended on mine 5) Began on hers, ended on hers 6) Began on mine, ended on mine 7) Began on mine, ended on hers 8) Began on mine, ended on mine, began again on mine, ended on hers 9) Began on mine, ended on mine Some of these are pretty short (around 3 months at the shortest), but all were exclusive. It all depends from what I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 05:19 PM
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Being a white night has lost all meaning though. It's how the term "cuck" is currently evolving. Man A gives criticism of some demonstration video that a woman does. Man B tells Man A to not ever criticize a woman. Man B is called a "white knight." Man C calls a woman a whore for posting multiple makeup vids. Man D calls Man C an asshole for being an asshole. Man D is now a "white knight." These are two different scenarios and, imo, man D has every right to deny being a white knight. The stereot…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 05:07 PM
1

Shortest was probably a couple of hours, maybe three or four. Has happened several times. Currently single but with my last SO it was about 8 weeks, mostly due to travel. With a girl I'm currently trying to possibly date steadily it was about 36 hours, but I'm not really counting the extra six weeks where we met at a party and didn't really talk to each other at all. Male, purple, lean blue. Pill association sounds fucking stupid, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 03:31 PM
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I wouldn't agree. Two of my friends are black and nerdy (one short, one tall). They often have women approaching them without them even doing anything. They get pulled away from guys nights all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 01:17 AM
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I've lived in two of the most major cities in the IS, and I don't see this. Some women won't always be good to be approached by strangers, but for the most part I've had no trouble having conversations with strangers at bars. Some women are open to it, others are more into sticking with their own friends for the night.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 01:15 AM
2

As someone who's lived in three major cities, I've never really had this problem. But they are arguably friendlier places than New York
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 01:12 AM
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I haven't negotiated sleep, and I won't in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 10:42 PM
1

Yeah. It's those little differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 09:09 PM
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Essentially ones that can easily be brushed off as general compliments. "I like that shirt on you" or "you look really nice with a beard." There's an extra bit of a personal note to it (I like that shirt on you vs just simply "nice shirt), but I write all those off as people just being nice. However, some cases they'll outright tell me that they were just trying to get me to talk to them because they were into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 08:35 PM
1

What different things?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 01:01 AM
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I never accused you of not listening. I was asking if that's legitimate to feel disrespected if she says no. There may be no reason to you, but what about reason to her. shouldn't respect be mutual?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 10:37 PM
1

Suit yourself man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 05:20 PM
3

I'm sorry that you're so jaded that the chance of something going wrong based on arbitrary feelings is preventing you from trying something out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 04:09 PM
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Just because you don't feel love or devotion to others for an extended period of time doesn't mean nobody else does. Some people, believe it or not, legitimately enjoy spending the rest of their lives with another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 03:58 PM
1

Okay, so what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 03:14 PM
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What's there to gamble on? Who cares if it's a majority or not? What is the point of your argument here? I'm talking about the majority of the relationships in my personal life, that I've seen, where the woman is arguably significantly more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 02:49 PM
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Yeah I don't think that's the case. Judging by his family his habits were going to catch up to him. He was overweight to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 02:44 PM
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This will definitely be one of multiple cases. In the majority of them (three off the top of my head, more if I think about it I'm sure) the woman is definitely the breadwinner. If you want to base relationships on what is supposedly more likely to happen, you're missing out on a lot more variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 02:37 PM
2

Maybe, maybe not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 02:35 PM
1

"No is not in the vocabulary" is a rapey sentence when referring to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 02:35 PM
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Attraction in most cases is more than just physical. Small example I was at a wedding recently where, since getting together, the groom gained easily 100lbs while the bride was smoking gorgeous. The way she looked at him the entire night showed that she was still absolutely smitten.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 01:41 PM
3

Thanks for defining the word for everyone. We all appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 01:08 PM
1

Shit yeah I would, that dude sounds rad. And I'm straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 02:06 AM
3

So if a woman is being raped, and she says "no," is she disrespecting her rapist? If a woman at a party is too drunk, and a stranger starts to undress her, and she says no, is she disrespecting him? If you and your girlfriend are having sex, and she starts to feel pain and is getting hurt, and she says no, she's disrespecting you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 12:51 AM
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Having a safe word and using it properly is responsible no matter who you are in a relationship. I never thought "rape" before the word submissive was defined as the word no not being in the vocabulary. Having a dom/sub relationship is common and perfectly healthy for the couples it works for. Not having a safe word or not being able to say "no" is rapey.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 12:49 AM
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I just did
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 12:08 AM
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I don't consider that a part of being submissive. I consider no to always be in the vocabulary, submissive or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 12:08 AM
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No it's not. Saying "no" to anyone during sex is not disrespectful in the slightest. There is no obligation for one party to always obey the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 12:00 AM
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I'm sorry what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 11:59 PM
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Really what? My thoughts of "rape" come into play when I read "no isn't in the vocabulary." You changing the verbiage of the original post doesn't change that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 11:58 PM
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I didn't think about rape there. I thought about rape when I read "the word no isn't in the vocabulary." Frankly I'm thinking about it again when I hear that "she says no all the time."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 10:53 PM
1

I would laugh at the blatant disrespect. Unless I was looking for something new and interesting, then why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 10:14 PM
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Tend to be is never law. Smarter girls can tend to be more plain looking, but as a result I'm not going to assume that any hot girl I meet is a dummy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 10:13 PM
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I'm thinking I want a direct answer from you. When she says "no," what does the man do?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 10:11 PM
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I mean does the man stop when she says "no"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:51 PM
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Your bullshit started a long time ago man. I'm not gonna bother wasting any more time with your pseudo-cryptic responses. Later.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:18 PM
1

"The word no is not in the vocabulary." So what happens when the woman says no, in your scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:17 PM
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...I'm really not following this analogy when it comes to having sex with your partner. If you're bringing "gun to the head" into the mix, then you're just trolling for a rape response from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 08:59 PM
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Hahahahaha don't pretend you're some wise man ghandi-like oracle. I ask people how they feel and they tell me as such. How you treat a person has no bearing on how they feel about a concept, unless they're just trying to fit in with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 08:57 PM
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So then "no" is in the vocabulary.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 08:17 PM
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Uh, no. People don't feel the way about something based on how I treat the person. That's lunacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 08:17 PM
2

Them cuuuuuuurves
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 08:16 PM
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No should always be in the vocabulary for even the most devoted of couples. Safe words exist for a reason, and for either partner to exclude them is blatant disrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 07:48 PM
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Yes, generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 07:47 PM
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That shit ain't right
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 07:38 PM
3

Those exceptions are everywhere. I'd be willing to bet they're a vast majority. At least, from my experience most women I meet don't feel much different from men about being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 07:33 PM
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I see this 90% number thrown around a lot by groups with weak arguments. That way, it's easy to find your confirmation bias and cling to it representing the majority, and anyone who defers is just an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 07:04 PM
3

I really didn't think 4.5 was that small but I don't really have much to compare to so whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 06:35 PM
3

Is being single boring for women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 06:34 PM
2

And you keep on with your confirmation bias. No worries.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 06:25 PM
3

You're making some incredible theories yourself. Look at any A-list celebs Instagram. I'm sure you'll find it just as interesting. Just dumb selfies in exotic places or memes. But there are others who are interested in those kinds of pictures. Is it you? No. Interest is not universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 06:20 PM
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Oh please. People follow celebs on Instagram all the time because they like to follow them. You don't always follow because you think they're hot, it's because you think they're interested. 39 million followers most of them are likely bots.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 06:03 PM
3

How do you know they don't just like his music?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 05:21 PM
2

Do they all think he's attractive or do they just like his music?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 05:16 PM
1

Or being a burglar. Then I'd finally be cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 04:59 PM
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That depends on if you think the standards are unrealistic. One can consider him/herself a viable option, but is not a suitable partner for the man/woman. They are in no way obligated to give everyone a chance. Just because a woman doesn't choose a certain man, doesn't make her picky. Just like you not choosing a certain woman doesn't make you picky, it just means that you have other qualities you're looking for. If a man declines an option, wouldn't that make that person not a good option? How …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 04:56 PM
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Sure, all kinds of people want them, but it's your choice to settle for a relationship that you don't want. Nobody is forcing you to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 02:49 PM
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Right but the key difference there is you need a job to make money. You don't need to date someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 02:31 PM
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Sorry, meant to write "just because hey don't choose you doesn't mean they are picky."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 02:30 PM
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But nothing is forcing you to date anyone you aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 02:10 PM
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Biological thirst is a new cop-out excuse I haven't heard before. Credit for originality. Also just because they don't choose you doesn't mean they aren't picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 02:09 PM
3

Who's forcing you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 01:29 PM
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Most everyone loves adventure, I'll give you that. And I'm sure your life is plenty cool and interesting and adventurous. But what also should be taken into account is the adventure partner. Yes you lead an adventurous life. Are you the most exciting person to share adventures with? Because there's always someone going on similar adventures as you who could be more interesting and exciting to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 01:11 PM
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I think those top endorsed contributors do get some women on occasion for fuckbuddies and nothing more. I think part of that would have to do with the women themselves only looking to fuck them for a bit, not necessarily the men only looking to fuck them for a bit. However, in most cases I don't think either party would settle with the other one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 11:52 AM
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If your argument is boiling down to "women won't date a man she's not attracted to," then why are you surprised?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 11:50 AM
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It doesn't make them a bad person for not having sex with you. Being manipulative and going behind the other persons back objectively makes you a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 01:29 AM
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You're absolutely right. But that doesn't make you a good person. In fact, it makes you the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 01:19 AM
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Sex isn't a right. It's not the decent thing to do just because someone has done it before. If a person gives you something once they are never obligated to give it to you again, bar none.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 12:50 AM
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From the beginning, you mentioned a woman bringing up a dealbreaker that applies to you, unbeknownst to the woman. I said the decent thing to do would be to leave her and find someone else, so you would be the one breaking up with her. Why does she owe you sex just because it meets your needs? You know what else meets my needs? Money. Give me money. It's the decent thing to do, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 12:29 AM
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Why is breaking up with a girl hurting your self esteem if you're the one breaking up with her? What makes having a girlfriend that you're trying to cheat on make you less desperate? Why is her having sex with you the decent thing to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 11:59 PM
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The decent thing is moving on from a girl who wouldn't want to be with you. Believe you me, it doesn't help either party keeping that relationship going. If you have the ability to get backups, then you should be able to get girls and leave the woman who doesn't want to be with you behind, so self esteem in this scenario shouldn't really play a role. Why is her having sex with you the decent thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 11:29 PM
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I had some friends who tried to wingman me or teach me game. I had no interest because I wasn't comfortable acting the way they wanted me to act to score with women. After a few nights at the bar doing fine on my own, they quit with the "mentor" shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 09:50 PM
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Why is having sex with you the decent thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 09:08 PM
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So you're asking why should you do the decent thing and walk away if she's not going to continue to have sex with you? I'm not following this question. Also, Why is having sex with you the decent thing to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 08:50 PM
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Being that some of the women there were without their S.O.'s and were still enjoying themselves without cheating. It's not hard to see them not flirting with other dudes, not to mention it would kill their reputation anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 08:49 PM
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As someone who has parties with law students and am good friends with one (who is a woman), the single ones are no worse or better than any other single college student. The ones who were taken were faithful from what I saw.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 06:58 PM
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In more cases than you think, yes it does
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 06:57 PM
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I don't really see a certain group (gender, race, etc) as playing any sort of role or providing a use to me. I spend time with people because it brings me joy. In some of those cases the joy is physical/sexual, and in all of those cases that's with a woman. I also have friend that are women. I could be just as close with men, but the relationship I've built with the particular friends I have I wouldnt want to just trade away just because they are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 06:55 PM
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Can you explain why her not having sex with you would be the decent thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 06:41 PM
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23 at the youngest, I think. Women younger than that typically don't have the same ideals as I do. Though there are always exceptions, as I met a 21 year old who was pretty even keeled.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 06:00 PM
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I'd like a source on that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 05:58 PM
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What about doing the decent thing and just let her go? It's obviously not going to work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 05:57 PM
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In general I can agree with this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 12:02 PM
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Oh whoops I misread. I thought your first line was a quote from OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 11:41 AM
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What makes you think you know the woman better? OP knows the woman personally and describes her as such, but you claim to be so sure she's just a child putting on a façade. Why does he only know the partial story, but you're more likely correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 11:20 AM
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Why don't they seem realistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 11:18 AM
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Women will flirt with me on occasion, but a lot of times it's real subtle and I'll only learn after the fact. But occasionally I'll get a blatant "when will I see you again?" Or "you're cute" from some comment I'll make.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 02:32 AM
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I'm sorry, but not bringing a plus one to a party and have everyone believe that you must be gay is not something I see in a work environment. I don't think you're replying to the right person on this one, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 02:30 AM
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Exactly. It always depends. It's totally subjective what the best option is for a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 12:18 AM
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I fail to see what the price is. Do you think other people know what's best for you, or do you know what's best for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 11:09 PM
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What you think is the best for a person and what the person thinks is best for themselves are likely two different people
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 10:50 PM
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I'm not sure if you quite understand what it's actually like...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 10:41 PM
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Good god I cannot fathom a work environment that is this hung up on petty gossip. Do you not work in an environment where people talk face to face about stuff? Or, more likely, let your personal life be personal?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 10:40 PM
2

What if the best all around option is a man who doesn't happen to be a provider?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 10:36 PM
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Thanks for having no tangible argument. It's always fun to debate with someone who just uses the cop out of "you're just an exception that proves the rule."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 10:34 PM
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I guess the primary earner is the alpha of the pairing, thereby making the man the beta. But if he's buying everything for her, then he's also a beta. Also don't let her do her own thing, because then you're a cucked beta. But don't try and stay by her side the whole time, because then you're a beta orbiter. Make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 09:55 PM
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Couldn't disagree more. I am much more attracted to women with ambition, and that typically carries into professional life. Am I attracted to the six figure salary? No, but I'm attracted to the drive and intelligence it usually takes to get to a higher earning role. You can go ahead and say "well you're a beta, so my point still stands" without knowing who I am, but I can assure you that I'm plenty successful and have no interest in being any sort of provider. I find it much more engaging being …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 09:35 PM
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Male. My high school experience was a good turning point in my early years. Before then I was bullied a lot, and the new school I was in was all boys and bullying wasn't really a thing there. The best insight I learned was how similar everyone really is deep down. I was one of the weirder/floater kids, I guess, but I'd still eat lunch with football players, band geeks, burnouts, whoever I felt like hanging out with. Everyone was pretty respectful of each other, and I think it helped develop a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 07:23 PM
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I agree that not everyone will smoke/drink to moderation. However that statement admits that some people will use moderation, thereby negating the original claim that drinking and smoking 100% will damage your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 11:35 AM
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Can you explain where moderate beer consumption or marijuana usage will guarantee damage?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 01:08 AM
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Probably. In most relationships I've been the one who makes more money, so I've arguably spent more. I've never put much thought into it, and I don't really see my exes in values of currency. I'd probably do it again I suppose? Maybe not consciously, but I'm not gonna withhold spending because of anyone else. In my experience, it's been pretty equal I feel. I often am faster at reaching for the bill, but generally things even out, or she will insist on paying, or she'll actively treat me to some…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 04:09 PM
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Until they start advocating abuse and/or active doxxing, there's really nothing bannable that they've done. I think it's an unhealthy sub for the most part, and any positive advice I've seen there you can get anywhere else, but it doesn't need to be banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 03:26 PM
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I'd hardly say 75%. There is still keeping them interested and also getting them to realize that spending time with you overnight is also worthwhile
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 07:48 PM
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I assume you've run out of rehashed autism insults, so I guess have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 03:26 PM
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With most I try and imagine ways it can best be delivered, and none of them ever seem right
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 03:15 PM
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True, but again, the direct quotes and movements said on the field reports do not sound anything like something that would work on the women I know. At that point it's not about subtlety, it's about what is said and done.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 02:52 PM
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But they are being used nonetheless
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 02:29 PM
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In my experience, the PUA/manipulative tactics have never worked on the women I know, who overall I'd consider to be rational and emotionally mature. Now I realize RP strategy is more than that, but a lot of guys and tips I've seen exchanged and field reports posted would never fly with the women I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 02:21 PM
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If those are the type of women you want, be my guest. It's also never any guarantee
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 03:50 AM
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Any strategy works for certain types of women. I have no doubt that some women will be into any sort of RP tactic you use. But it depends on the type of woman you want. In my opinion, RP tactics will not work on most emotionally mature women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 02:49 AM
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All kinds of people getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 01:51 AM
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No I mean I don't see the top whatever percent of men getting all the sex and women avoiding sex with anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:17 PM
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Unfortunately it doesn't change what is actually happening around me. But glad your arguments are limited to "nuh uh."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 08:05 PM
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Oh that's weird. Didn't know you are the authority of what I witness. My mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 07:58 PM
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Why look for it when I'm already seeing the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 07:15 PM
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I always see this theory passes around and I just don't see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 06:51 PM
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You're very focused, it seems, on the women lying, but not the men, I notice. Do you not like to give examples of men lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 06:50 AM
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No I'm not saying that people should lie, but to pretend you are faultless is silly. Odds are a man who is asking a woman on a first date if she's ghosted someone is highly insecure about any relationship he's in anyway, but if the woman wants to give him a shot it's better if those subjects aren't brought up. Nobody is blameless in the dating scene, so why dig up that dirt early on?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 06:48 AM
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I mean you literally just supported the insecure atmosphere
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 03:09 AM
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That it'd be miserable? I've been with insecure women. It's not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 01:34 AM
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If the sex you're after is with shut in insecure women then have fun with that. That's some miserable shit
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:47 PM
1

So was I correct with my interpretation then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:42 PM
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It obviously will always depend on reading the room and seeing if the person is actually interested. In my opinion, I would very rarely and very cautiously hit on someone while on the clock. I would be more likely to hit on someone while as a customer, but again, only if I feel like they are actually interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 08:24 PM
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I likely wouldn't. Maybe if it's something that is very reoccurring, but if I'm on the clock I'd never ask someone out. Being asked out by a customer is a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 07:01 PM
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It's a metaphor. As in, someone is wearing something to disguise who they are before settling into the relationship. I figured it'd be clear since it's a more common metaphor than "uniform." Sorry that changing one word seemed to throw you off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 06:58 PM
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How is this any different from what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 06:53 PM
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You're saying that men who are paying attention to a woman is a mask, and will stop doing it as he gets more comfortable in a relationship. Same with women and sex, because in both cases this is just a front to seem more desirable. Am I wrong that this is your claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 06:09 PM
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What makes you think that fucking more is a uniform for women? What makes you think that paying attention to someone is a uniform for men? That doesn't make sense to me. So you continue to put effort into your relationship, which is good, but you're saying this is a uniform that you're wearing? And your wife is tending to the house and fucking "in return," not because she wants a clean house and to be fucked?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 05:45 PM
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Thanks? So your anecdotal evidence are equally qualified to being discarded, so we sit at an impasse. Now, what could be a viable argument is that after marriage, sex life can falter as monogamy doesn't have as much of a thrill. Sex with the same person again and again requires added spice, such as toys or extra people or partner swapping, but according to you the woman only becomes more frigid, based only on your anecdotal evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 05:08 PM
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By dating around, meeting women, having sex. With a what, it'd be good to at least have a theory why, but we can forget that. I just doubt in my experience that the "what" is true. My observations have been totally different.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 04:44 PM
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Sure, one day I'd like to have an LTR, as many do. However, without that at the moment I'm being fulfilled in my love life well enough. Why do you think a woman decreases her enthusiasm? Is it intentional? Why do you seem to believe this happens so regularly?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 04:13 PM
1

So worst case scenario you're in better health and you don't look as good as you had hoped. Not a bad deal IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 04:11 PM
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What makes you think I'm stuck in serial monogamy? You've said yourself that women will be sexually promiscuous, but will claim to be "not that kind of woman" with the man she settles down with. To that I've posed two questions: 1) How does the woman suddenly curb her personality for the "last man"? 2) How does a woman know that the last man is the "last man" with whom she no longer will be sexual? You gave an analogy regarding "full price" but haven't explained it very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 03:27 PM
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I don't get this "full price" analogy. Do you mean paying for everything? What you're saying is then that a woman's sexuality will fall off as the relationship progresses, then, not that she'll be super sexual with some guys but not with the last man?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 03:15 PM
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If I wanted to use examples of others "not succeeding" (I really wouldn't call any of those three examples failure) then I wouldn't have tried. I could say that I had shit genetics and I would never have improved, but then I did. My frame filled out and, most of all, I feel better, physically and psychologically. Will it work for everyone? Maybe not. But if you're not going to try just because others "failed," then you don't even qualify to be called a quitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 03:09 PM
1

Hah well then I've been there, man. It gets better, believe you me. Just keep at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 12:15 PM
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Absolutely man, keep at it. My sister told me the other day that my head looks smaller, which is nice to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:38 AM
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Question: have you ever lifted to the point where your body looks anything like the two pictures posted above? Because if not, you don't know. Before I got into lifting, I never would describe myself as "broad shouldered" by any stretch of the imagination. As I filled out my frame, I definitely saw improvements in how I carried myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:35 AM
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I'm not asking you why my relationships didn't last, I can answer that easily in any case. I'll break it down: you claim that women in general will curb their sexual side with the guy they settle down with. If there is a budding relationship where the woman is very sexual, does that imply that she's not going to settle down with them? In which case, how would they know? Surely you can give a general answer there if you're so sure of how a woman will behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 11:30 AM
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I can't necessarily deny this behavior occurs, because I'm sure in such a vast number of possibilities that it could. I'm denying though that it is common. I'm not asking how they know it now. That's obvious. But how did they know, while I was with them, that I was not the last guy? Because you said the only reason they were still sexual was because I was not last.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 03:48 AM
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Cool man well I'm not here to talk about migraines either, so I'm happy to stay on topic. Where have you observed this behavior? In your personal life? Do you know of promiscuous women who pretend they're totally plain on the sack with certain men? I just find it very interesting that you claim the only reason I've dated women who still have an active sex life is because I wasn't the last guy. How would they know I wasn't the last guy though?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 03:36 AM
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Considering I'm close friends with a neuropsychologist and I just texted her about this I'm not really guessing. But we aren't talking about migraines. We're talking about behavior. You're predicting the behavior of a group of women with nothing to back it up but your own assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 03:27 AM
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I mean neuroscientists have a pretty good idea of how migraines happen...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 03:16 AM
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So you're saying it happens, but don't know how?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 02:29 AM
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Neat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 02:29 AM
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I don't think that happens all that often. Even your minor case I've never seen happen before. To take it that many steps farther seems incredibly high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 09:52 PM
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Yeah I wouldn't be too worried about my reputation with that. My blurry picture is dancing around Snapchat for a day? I'm sure that will ruin my chances with exactly zero women. I honestly cannot wrap my head around that having an actual effect on your dating prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 09:16 PM
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She posted your name? You researched her and saw it on FB?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 09:01 PM
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You must deal with some shit individuals. I can't fathom someone acting like that unless they were in their mid teens
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 08:54 PM
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What I'm asking is how a woman is so sure she is going to spend the rest of her life with a man, and will therefore most likely curb her sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 08:53 PM
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I suppose it's a combination of larger cities and more mature partners. I've just literally never ever seen anyone publicly shamed for something less than actual violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 08:16 PM
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How I interpret it "end" meant possibility of spending the rest of my life with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 08:14 PM
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What makes you so sure I was "never the end of the line"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 07:58 PM
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In my experience, the kind of woman who will publicly blast a man for something insignificant is not one that is trusted by others. Conversely, the kind of woman who doesn't who suddenly does publicly shame a man likely is speaking of a man who did something pretty significantly shitty. I'd counter by saying this might be a big deal in high school, but in adulthood this shit is nonexistent among actual adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 07:53 PM
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Is that also saying that same sex relationships are harmful?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 07:48 PM
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Right, but if she's like this early on with me, and the next man she dates, at what point does she throw away all of the sex toys before dating the last man? Obviously she can't be "that girl" anymore for him for your theory to be sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 07:42 PM
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So the next man this girl dates, she's gonna never put on the lingerie again? Throw away every set she has? Just turn into a completely new person for boyfriend number n+1?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 07:26 PM
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Whoop de fuckin do. Some weird psycho dropped my name in some smear campaign. I doubt that the people I meet are gonna be that affected by it. Is my name and face plastered all over the city with the tile "Tiny Dick Boy"? Did she rent out ad space on a billboard about how I'm spineless? No? Then I don't see the issue. You think with one post that many people are going to read it, memorize my name and face, and be able to pick me out of a lineup in a crowded bar, and still take this one girl's wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 07:23 PM
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But I could have been. It's not like this was a fuckbuddy, these are relationships that were monogamous and could have progressed if it weren't for one reason or another. What if I was that man at the end of the line?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 07:20 PM
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I've dated girls who have been open about their sexual exploits, and if anything I've gotten more out of it than their ONS from way back when did. I was in a relationship with a girl not too long ago who talked about how she lived in a frat house in college, and surprised me wearing lingerie and doing some R rated shit spontaneously one night. We then laid in bed and talked about potential threesomes down the road. I don't see any women who are this hyper sexual person in college and become June…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 07:09 PM
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I see this straw(wo)man all the time but from my experience this has never really rang true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 07:04 PM
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If someone cares that much about some stranger's slander on an Instagram post, I have no interest in dating them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 07:01 PM
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I don't see what's mentally ill about general second wave feminism. The third wave feminism is the crazy shit you're likely thinking of, and I don't see this much unless I actively hate read it on certain subs. The women I know who identify as feminists do not act out of line or demand anything egregious, from my perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 06:54 PM
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I fail to see where I've used this tactic before. Your anecdotal evidence is perfectly valid, but my conclusion would be divided between that you have shitty friends or what you specifically said could have been entitled. I mean in the instances with people I've known, they've said "it really sucks being single. I just want to have a girlfriend to take out." Usually that gets met with people saying "hey, let's go out and see if we can set you up" or "I know someone you might like." I've never sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 06:28 PM
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If the reason you aren't providing evidence of it happening is how you think I might react to it, that's a pretty piss poor reason. I'm told that something happens, and I doubt it. The burden of proof is not on me to provide evidence, it's on you. I will readily admit (yet again) that the evidence is in my real life, so I don't have any to show you. Anything I may have seen online I likely glaze over because a man saying "I'm bummed I'm single" and getting the harmless reply of "hang in there" i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 05:09 PM
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Oh, I saw it as "easy to pretend you don't act like this when I know you do."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 03:24 PM
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"Easy to say on the internet" implies that they're not saying what they're actually experiencing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 02:23 PM
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I guess so, but I don't think that's necessarily true. Up until my early 20s I would consider myself below average. But there are always ways to make yourself more presentable and desirable to people that you want to be with. Am I scoring 10/10 runway models? Nope, and I doubt I will. But I'm meeting women more easily and have made myself more interesting to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 12:08 PM
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That's a pretty ridiculous way to view the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 11:31 AM
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I don't see the similarities. There is disagreeing with a statement, and there is saying that the other person is straight up lying about their experiences. There's a pretty clear line drawn there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 11:31 AM
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Loving her younger brother proves that she hates men? I'm not sure if I follow the logic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 11:29 AM
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What do I think it is and what is it actually?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 11:28 AM
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I wasn't here to see it myself
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 11:28 AM
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Why go on a site for debate if you just discount anything someone else says as a lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 01:52 AM
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Uh, no. Not the same. You posted data, and I pointed out data on the same page. On the same table, no less. You're bringing up the war of 1812, and I'm bringing up the burning of the capitol. I brought up a perspective of the data that can show that, if it's the case that men are having sex that seldom, women are having less of it. But you commented that women underreport, and men overreport, essentially saying "hey, this is all garbage - people lie sometimes!" My point of this is why do you thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 11:47 PM
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You want me to look at data, I'm gonna look at all sides. If you complain about men not getting as much sex, don't post data that shows women get less. Moreover, if this survey is full of under/over reporting, then this data is null and doesn't support your point to begin with, since it's impossible to tell who is lying and who isn't, and how much the numbers are affected. Either the data is correct, and men are having more sex than women, or the numbers lie, and you can't use it to support your…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 09:40 PM
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I could not disagree more. The people in my life I care about most I respect a great deal. If I don't respect a person, I don't see how I can accurately say I have love for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 09:14 PM
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What does that prove?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 09:12 PM
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