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16	Do you agree with Iliza Schlesinger's take on hateful undesirable saying that it's "natural selection"? Misogynistic ultraconservatives have higher birth rates than more progressive men, so by her own logic her views are being eradicated through "natural selection"	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/25 08:54 AM
2	Men understand the concept of aggression significantly better than women. whats baffling is that people are slightly more confident in their odds of beating an elephant than a grizzly. So there are people walking around who think "i couldnt beat a grizzly, but an elephant should be doable"	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/24 10:43 PM
1	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Holy fuck that kid's gonna be fucked up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 10:42 PM
4	There’s nothing wrong with high standards. But historically, 40% of men didn’t reproduce and there was no “incel uprising” Thats because primitive society was actually a constant form of "incel uprising", in which men were expected to go out and pillage and attack other tribes to take their property and women. Many died before they could reproduce, but those that did had plenty of women to do so with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 12:27 PM
1	A lot of society does not appreciate motherhood until no one wants to do it. Hard labour was overwhelmingly done by men. In Amish circles, which in many ways are a time capsule to 100+ years ago, men consistently do more intense work than women. For starters, of the 98 Amish pedometer-wearing adults surveyed over a week, men averaged about 18,000 steps a day, women about 14,000. Most Americans do not come anywhere close to that, struggling to get in the recommended 10,000 steps a day. Amish men spent about 10 hours a week doing vigorous activities, women about 3 1/2 hour…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/24 11:02 AM
1	A lot of society does not appreciate motherhood until no one wants to do it. Well that's too bad, you're not gonna get a large extended family when everyone has either no children or just one. They made their bed, now they get to lie in it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/24 10:58 AM
1	The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issues That comparison doesn't really fly, because you can take both forms of advice, they are not in direct competition. They could even be complementary. Why tell your customers that there are easily accessible, healthier resources when they don't have to? Because Those are often not actually easily accessible (Therapy waiting lists are extremely long) Therapy isn't always as healthy or effective as it is said to be, and many men have sotries of therapy being ineffective. I can vouch for that myself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 08:42 PM
1	The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issues No one said it's your job. Plenty of men will fill the void instead. It's not their job either, but they do it anyway. Of course, you cannot complain that the advice they give is too "misogynistic" or whatever when you're not doing anything yourself. You've forfeited that right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 08:25 PM
6	The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issues There's a shitton of money to be made in therapy, what the fuck are you talking about? The real reason is that classic therapy is just very limited in what it can do; Going to a therapist and talking for an hour aint gonna cut it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 08:19 PM
12	The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issues No, people refuse because Menslib is an awful subreddit that only pays lip-service to men's issues, and has glaring blind spots when it comes to feminism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 06:28 PM
15	The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issues No, people refuse because Menslib is an awful subreddit that only pays lip-service to men's issues, and has glaring blind spots when it comes to feminism. Any time any discussion gets just a bit too close to criticism of feminism or women in general, it always ends up shut down. Menslib just cannot handle that, and any man (any who hasn't drunk the kool-aid yet) will see this and recognize Menslib just doesn't have their best interest at heart.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 06:19 PM
11	Liberals politicians support adding women to Selective Service Men get (sexually) assaulted in the military all the time, yet no one uses that as an argument for making men exempt from the draft.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/24 11:08 PM
3	Korean men are turning to AI to get dates for them as men haven’t made the necessary changes to themselves and society Men in Korea are still forced into conscription during the prime years of their lives. Maybe first force women to do so as well, and then you can start to talk about men "needing" to change.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/24 11:05 PM
1	A good way to incentivize more women to have children. Would be guaranteeing that women could continue to chase their dreams as well. integrity, empathy, care for others -- those things that give you self-respect and make life worth living Parents should have all that for their children, and that is why they should put their dreams and ambitions on hold for the benefit of their children. You are basically asking random people to sacrifice their dreams in the name of "empathy" while letting parents off the hook for having none for their own offspring.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/24 10:53 PM
–	Does Agreeableness Actually Matter? Agreeableness covers a lot more than just being "submissive" and it's also used as an actual term in psychology. Women consistently score higher on agreeableness than men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/24 09:17 AM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse No, I said the culture needs to change along with the need for a double income as its currenlty not sustainable, which results in the low birth rate. Correct, and as traditional patriarchical cultures will become more and more influential, we will see a return of men being (sole) breadwinners.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 03:59 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse There’s no specific reason why we can’t have a feminist progressive society that deeply values and supports having children. Sounds a lot like this magical real communism that is never able to materialize. Plenty of attempts have been made to reconcile feminism with high birth rates. All have failed. The only consistently effective method is strong patriarchical and religious values. Is it possible in theory? Sure, but i'm not holding my breath.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 03:57 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse As I said if you believe women are less valued due to pregancy don't moan they don't want to get pregnant which is what you are doing. I just said that cultures that value women as lesser employees havge higher fertility rates. Do you live in a mirror universe or something? Is your version of Somalia and Afghanistan very unfertile because woman arent valued enough? Tell me of this fantasy world you inhabit. Does Sweden have a sky high birth rate because women are so valued there?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 03:53 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse In Israel even the moderates have a fertility rate of around 3 due to a strong patriarchical culture, and those "religious nutjobs" are the patriarchs that i was talking about. Their birth rates still count very much. America has the Amish and Mormons to prop up its birth rate for the foreseeable future. Once the oil runs out, lots of patriarchal Middle East countries that appear to be doing okay will be fucked Israel doesnt depend on oil, and most of those oil states i wouldnt count as modern e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 03:50 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse This might come as a shocker, but I could have more. Oh really? How old are you and how easy was your pregnancy? Let me guess, early 30s and difficulty to conceive? Your ideals discourage women from wanting to have children and your inability to hold yourself accountable instead of trying to blame someone having children looks laughable. What why won't these women have children I just said they are unemployable and suggested thier only worth is via children. Look, i've come to realize from our c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 03:46 PM
-2	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse Better save money and put yourself in a nursing home That money wont save you when the problem is that there simply arent enough people to work in nursing homes. You're gonna rot away on a waiting list instead.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 03:34 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse Although i have little hope for Afghanistan, the abysmal birth rate of South Korea will pretty much destroy their economy. The best case scenarios are modern economies that retain strong patriarchical cultures, like Israel; those are the ones that aren't doomed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 03:31 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse I just don't see why a system that requires reproductive slavery (for that is what would be necessary to raise the birthrate up to 2.1) should be allowed to continue existing Who's to dictate what should be "allowed"? You could just as easily say "why should a system that cant even perpetuate itself be allowed to exist?". And it's not a matter of what "ought" to exist, but what will exit. Patriarchical breeding societies will continue to live; progressive ones won't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 03:24 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse You have 1 child, you havent really done your bit then. Amish have 6 to 9 kids, Hasidi Jews have 6 on average, Mormons have four. You're not even at replacement rate. Also, what problem am i causing with my ideals? If you think addressing this problem is an issue of itself, you're just blinding yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 03:20 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse True, which is why patriarchical civilizations will outcompete and replace non-patriarchical ones.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 03:20 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse I worded it incorrectly. What i mean is that the if you start this generation with 100 people, you will only end up with 5 grandchildren. The older generations obviously don't immediately die after 75 years. It's actually worse than just a 95% population decrease; you also have a massively greying population that has to be propped up by a minuscule amount of young people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 03:17 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse If you want to ignore it, then fine, but dont start whining when things like abortion and divorce end up on the chopping block. It's the future you wanted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 03:14 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse Because i'm torn between wanting on the one hand to adhere to progressive emancipation because i feel it is morally the right thing to do, yet on the other hand, i see no future in which traditional conservatism doesn't overtake it in a purely darwinian struggle. I suppose i should just accept that progressivism is doomed and that patriarchical theocracies are the future, but i'm not quite willing to do that yet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 02:45 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse So what do you think is gonna happen 80 years from now, when the only groups that breed are religious fundamentalists, while the geriatric homes are filled with childless progressives? What do you think they're going to do gender equality then? Who's going to defend your rights? Don't have such a myopic view of this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 02:39 PM
-4	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse Men generally work more hours than women do already.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 02:35 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse My point being that the less progressive a country is, the healthier their birth rates are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 02:35 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse Because it's a massive economic disaster looming on the horizon. Also i'm an atheist myself, and i'm not too fond of living in a future dictated by religious fundamentalists purely because those are the ones who actually breed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 02:34 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse Oh sure, theyre free to do that. Theyre not free to then complain that groups who do breed will eventually replace them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 02:31 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse "Better decision" on an individual level? Sure. Better at a society level? Absolutely not. It's a tragedy of the commons, that those who make the best decisions for their offspring will also cause their country to spiral into economic stagnation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 02:30 PM
-4	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse Men already share the burden by having to work. What's gonna happen is that those cultures that value women mostly for making babies will outbreed those that have more progressive views on women. It's the central paradox within liberalism that it cannot solve through material means alone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 02:29 PM
2	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse It's not the smaller population that's a problem, it's the inverted young/elderly population collapse that will cause collapse. You are right that we will adapt, but every indication thus far means a replacement of any progressive values by traditional religious ones, as those groups far outbreed progressives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 02:19 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse Someone has to raise these children in two incomes families. If you want more children and people can't afford to do this, then mat pay needs to happen. The effects of financial incentives on birth rates are extremely limited; the most effective incentives are cultural and religious, aka the non- or anti-feminist ones. On maternal leave; even if mat leave could be taken by men, it's obligatory and longer for women as they have to carry and give birth, which still makes them an objectively poorer…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 02:17 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse They are very westernised. Theyre more progressive than countries like Afghanistan, which has a much healthier fertility rate. Feminists in South Korea are also generally more insane than the types in the West. But if you want a more western feminist country, you can look at the EU, which has an average fertility rate of 1.43, which is not quite collapse-tier yet, but very close to it, and partially off-set by important (non-feminist) immigrants.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 02:14 PM
-5	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse You're basically demanding extra privileges for women from employees, while also lamenting that women are seen as a worse choice by any employer. If women need extrea paid maternity leave and other detriments to their productivity, then employers will simply just hire men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 02:07 PM
1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse South Korea has a fertility rate of 0.68. That results of a population decrease of 95% in just two generations. That is an apocalyptic scenario that will basically completely destroy the social fabric and economy of South Korea.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 02:03 PM
-1	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse Some (Western) countries are seeing a collapse, not just a decrease.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 01:59 PM
10	Late stage feminism leads to population collapse Once the boomers are dead, the population issues will calm down. No it won't. The current population crunch is going to hit the current young generations (Millennials and Zoomers) the hardest. Look at South Korea's 0.68 birth rate; that's a population contraction of 75% each generation	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 01:32 PM
4	Do men feel less guilty about dating autistic people compared to women? There is evidence that male autists reproduce at far lower rate than female autists. But that's fertility, not so much dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 10:01 PM
21	Men shouldn't dismiss so quickly the idea that unequal distribution of housework/childcare contributes to divorces Taking subreddits as an accurate representation of reality is baffling. You could just as easily conclude that women simply complain more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/24 06:48 PM
1	Why do people pretend the only thing men had to offer was a paycheck? Not having to be drafted to fight and die, for example.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/24 10:54 AM
6	Why do people pretend the only thing men had to offer was a paycheck? Collapse of birth rates followed by a return to traditional gender roles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/24 10:50 AM
1	Immaturity is a bigger problem with guys than they think. It's astonishing that people think girls are being held accountable more, when by every indication boys are treated harsher for the same things as girls are, especially in the education system. Girls mature faster physically, that's it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/24 10:03 AM
13	My explanation of the manosphere popularity I agree, it would be great to not have to do that. Unfortunately, men's rights advocates and red pillers have so thoroughly tainted the pool with virulent misogyny that men feel the need to distance themselves from them. Doesnt really matter if they have or not, them being unapologetically male will have gotten them labeled "misogynistic" anyway. Theyre not any more vitriolic to the opposite gender than TwoX is, yet that gets a pass. Menslib doesn't need to distance themselves from those groups,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/24 05:38 PM
23	My explanation of the manosphere popularity B) I have repeatedly offered r/MensLib to men here only to get screamed at about how terrible they are because they don't allow posters to just baselessly blame women and feminism for all of men's problems. No, Menslib is terrible because it barely offers anything in terms of solutions, and it's filled with groveling auto-flagellants who have to preface everything with "i'm not a MRA, but" or "I don't want to invalidate women's experiences, but". But the main issue with Menslib is that it simply…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/24 04:06 PM
7	Do most women really dislike being approached in general? It's why you should just disregard their advice completely. Sure you might make a couple uncomfortable by approaching when they don't wnat to, but it's better than never risking anything and thus getting nothing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/24 02:10 PM
2	CMV, women have a low tolerance for male vulnerability which perpetuates men not expressing their thoughts and feelings Hmm well i have a lot of experience with female delusions and i think you would really benefit from seeing a psychiatrist. They're very advanced with treating female hysteria nowadays.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/24 09:47 PM
–	CMV, women have a low tolerance for male vulnerability which perpetuates men not expressing their thoughts and feelings You really are just making baseless assumptions based on absolutely nothing. Are you seeing a psychiatrist for this?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/24 09:40 PM
–	CMV, women have a low tolerance for male vulnerability which perpetuates men not expressing their thoughts and feelings He showed vulnerability and was naturally punished for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/24 09:31 PM
2	From a cold, practical perspective isn't women's emancipation bad for society if it leads to low birth rates The cultures i was referring to don't see women as "breeding machines" either; they simply see childbirth as its own reward and natural. But that is enough to already make them more fecund than secularized and more progressive populations. It's not a conscious effort for them to "outbreed" others; it's just a natural consequence of their way of living.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/23 11:56 AM
–	From a cold, practical perspective isn't women's emancipation bad for society if it leads to low birth rates I mean, there are plenty of cultures who do believe that, and they will outbreed liberal ones. If that means progressive values die out as a result of that, then oh well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 03:04 PM
1	From a cold, practical perspective isn't women's emancipation bad for society if it leads to low birth rates None of the attempts at increasing birth rates through economic means have succeeded. Even if some communist utopia would be achieved, it's unlikely it wouldn't just get outbred by cultural conservatives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 03:02 PM
2	From a cold, practical perspective isn't women's emancipation bad for society if it leads to low birth rates Amish double every year and their retention rate is 90%. The only way they can feasibly stop this is when they have pretty much taken over all of the US' farmland, at which point they will already be a majority. There is also very little incentive for the US government to curtail their birthrates, because new manpower will be desperately needed as global fertility rates drop.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 02:44 PM
3	From a cold, practical perspective isn't women's emancipation bad for society if it leads to low birth rates Population decline is a massive economic issue. Look at South Korea's 0.8 fertility rate, for example. That number spells complete disaster for any society.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 02:33 PM
1	From a cold, practical perspective isn't women's emancipation bad for society if it leads to low birth rates The link between birth rates and economics is very weak, it's mostly a cultural issue. Even the most generous support programs can barely cause an increase in birth rates in western social democracies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 02:32 PM
1	From a cold, practical perspective isn't women's emancipation bad for society if it leads to low birth rates It is, which is why such societies will be outbred by societies that are vehemently against emancipation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 02:31 PM
–	Question for men who want "traditional" gender norms Because the universe will die its heat death before that happens. A lot of men are no longer that sympathetic towards feminism, simply because they realize that all those male gender norms are here to stay, so they might as well act in their own interest and go for women who will act on female gender roles as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 11:44 PM
1	What really changed I spent three paragraphs on it because you spent three paragraphs talking about something that supposedly doesn't concern or bother you in any way. But sure, we'll leave it at that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 05:48 PM
0	What really changed It's not aimed at you personally, but more at progressive in general; you have to realize that there are consequences for emancipation. You can have your sexcual freedom, you can be free from the yoke of reproduction, but this also means you are surrendering the future to those who do reproduce at high rates. Also this isn't really far in the future; it's like a couple of generations away. This "after me the deluge" attitude is perfectly fine by me because i don't particularly care about progres…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 05:20 PM
1	What really changed Yeah i don't really get it either. People keep saying "oh conservatives need to adapt to modern dating or else they won't reproduce, you need liberal values nowadays to have a woman interested in you". Mean while progressive fertility numbers hover around 1 while the Amish population doubles every 20 years. I suppose Amish aren't contributing a lot to global warming.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 05:01 PM
2	What really changed That's fine, but you have to realize that this means that the future will belong to populations who do reproduce, which will be religious ultraconservatives. Once those groups reach a significant population, they will have enough political weight to start abolishing progressive constructs like abortion, no-fault divorce, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/23 12:00 PM