HappyFlowers Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
-1	Quantification of fear/pity language among feminists Are the wailers framing themselves as victims, or are the victims being framed as wailers? Is it better for us to err on the side of withholding our pity? Quite frankly I don't know or give a shit about these Butterflies & Wheels folks, but if the author was truly genuine then from the beginning, he would have just asked "How many, if any, of these wails being made can actually be shown to be genuine themselves?" That would have involved a whole lot of effort, and a real study though.	/r/MensRights	19/11/12 08:40 PM
-4	I think young men should grow up exposed to stories like this (Comic) I have seen and tested both sides of the issue. I have been a feminist. And I can use facts and reasoning to show that feminism is just a cesspit of sexism that harms women rather than empowers them. This is what someone blinded by dogma would have to say. How can you imagine feminists as people worth arguing with, if they espouse such a blatantly damaging core belief? Actually, men are punished more harshly for being ugly. You just haven't been shown the other side of the story. And I doubt you…	/r/MensRights	09/11/12 08:59 PM
-3	I think young men should grow up exposed to stories like this (Comic) Truth != majority opinion Is that what I was implying? Sorry for being vague when I knew that you are the one who is helplessly blind in your dogma. (My implication) You don't get to choose and control what others like about you. Just as they might prefer to be valued for something else, they themselves are also valuing people based on one dimensional parameters - probably more so than men if you take an honest look. You do however get to choose how you deal with it. And women have largely made …	/r/MensRights	09/11/12 06:42 PM
-2	I think young men should grow up exposed to stories like this (Comic) No one has innate value then. An ugly boy can become a doctor, but an ugly girl can only become an ugly doctor. Looks are tied much more harshly to the value of women, I see that reality everyday in the way they behave. My personal maxim is all people deserve to be treated better. No one needs to be worse off than anyone else for that to still hold true. The existence of misogyny is not a denial of the existence of misandry. I'm sure you won't disagree with that. Have an enlightful day. ;) /~s	/r/MensRights	09/11/12 06:17 PM
-6	I think young men should grow up exposed to stories like this (Comic) Women already won, that's why I find it hard to entertain this line of argument. I'm willing to lose if you're willing to win. Please rebut the rest of my argument at your convenience.	/r/MensRights	09/11/12 05:15 PM
-2	I think young men should grow up exposed to stories like this (Comic) IMO it's a stretch to say they are vomiting up dinner for any one (or more) person(s) love. The reason they are most likely doing it is in their own eyes they aren't physically desirable enough. The thing about being desired is it doesn't usually come from 1 or a few people, it comes from everyone. Society values a wide range of things in males. Whether you're a Male Model, or an ugly Fireman you can still hold yourself in esteem. A girl can be anything too, but she has to be a Pretty Model, or …	/r/MensRights	09/11/12 04:47 PM
-1	I think young men should grow up exposed to stories like this (Comic) Then perhaps you should be asking questions instead of just blurting out feminist dogma. Understand that neither you, nor the folks at SRS are of the majority opinion. Lots of things will seem like "feminist dogma" to you. First of all, objectification is something that most women want and see as very positive. The injustice is that men hardly ever get to experience it - not that women can experience it. They want it because by and large that's what society value's out of them. You probably feel…	/r/MensRights	09/11/12 04:34 PM
-6	I think young men should grow up exposed to stories like this (Comic) I'd imagine that patriarchy is damaging to many male's esteem too. There are teenage boys destroying their body with steroid abuse right now. Also I don't think you can honestly say boy's are just as insecure. We're not in a race to see who feels the worst about themselves. Boys are insulated by the fact that they can be lots of other things than pretty, and still feel valued by society. You can be Fabio, or a scientist, or the goddamn President. Girls, can be Barbie, or Barbie scientist, or Bar…	/r/MensRights	09/11/12 04:23 PM
-13	I think young men should grow up exposed to stories like this (Comic) Teenage girls are vomiting up dinner for our love right now. Anyone's love really. As long as society objectifies and degrades women, then female esteem will be cheapened. How can we expect them to love us, when they can't love themselves? I think it's wonderful that you yearn for this, we all do deep down (I hope), and it's much more positive for women than what patriarchal society expects a man to want out of a woman. I'm new to these gender discussions, and I probably belong lumped in SRS, bu…	/r/MensRights	09/11/12 05:44 AM