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Of course that's why all women need to ignore red pill nonsense and automatically exclude men who talk such shite from their consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 09:27 PM
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I am pretty introverted and a bit of a loner. I guess I can be shy at times but I’m not painfully shy or anxious. I feel confident eating out alone, travelling alone an so on. I do have some issues with sensory processing although I’m not autistic. I hate parties with loud music and flashing lights and if I have to attend due to family obligations I wear earplugs now and sit in a corner away from the lights. I remember in my teens when I’d be standing in the queue with friends from college to go…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:36 PM
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I'm glad to hear it, as long as you can keep calm and don't let it get to you then cool but do take a break if it does get to you! Take care!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 05:16 PM
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Personally I think it would be better if this sub was just banned but I do see your point of view. I agree that it is good to challenge your own position on things but I just think this is a bad place to do it and those that most need to hear it never actually do. However it sounds like it isn't harming you in any way so that is reassuring. I think there are women who come here with good intentions and end up negatively affected by engaging with this kind of discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 11:15 AM
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I just don't think the audience here is at all receptive to what women have to say. If women didn't respond this sub would be die a death, men on here post specifically to get attention from women and to a rise out of them not to debate or entertain different points of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:34 PM
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You’re totally right but what else would you expect from this sub and the kind of man who frequents it? Do yourself a favour and stop responding to them and their ridiculous posts. I remember reading one comment about how a woman rejecting a man was “reverse rape” and worse than when a woman was actually raped because at least in that case the woman got to have sex, I mean seriously? That is the mentality we are dealing with here so please just save yourself and let them stew in their own juices…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:26 PM
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Yeah it’s a lie that women are attracted to older men and that they are more attractive as they age this is simply not true at all. I can’t think of any of my female friends or any women I know who are attracted to older men and I don’t know any who are married to men more than 3 years older than them. I do though know personally of 5 long term marriages where the woman is 12 -18 years older than her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:13 PM
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Lol, you don't even get invited to parties, now why not do as I say and go and explain to any woman in your life how she lives life on easy mode, assuming that you know any and assuming that she will even want to talk to you and get back to me with her actual response?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:26 PM
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I think it maybe why men like the kind of guys who post here are so hell bent on shaming and devaluing women because they hate that we now have a choice to look at them and say, no thanks I prefer to be alone rather than sacrificing my time, energy, money and body making their lives easier. They are just pissed someone took away their easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:34 AM
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This is possibly the most clueless thing I've ever read on here "the enemies and bosses are easier to overcome and do NO damage, and there will always be something or someone to hold your hand through the toughest of mechanics and puzzles." Did you actually write that and think to yourself, yeah that's how it is for women? Tell me you know nothing, and have no empathy or understanding of the lives of women without saying. I'm fucking clueless about the experiences of women and there you have it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:30 AM
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"womens lives are easier because of a man" There is so much projection in that isn't there? Because in reality is the more often that the reverse is true and that women's lives are harder when they involve themselves with men. In an ideal situation both men and women would be better off in a relationship than apart, I mean that is the point of a relationship. Its interesting that so many women, given how easy it is for them to have so many men thirsting over them and doing anything for them are …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:54 AM
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Don't you know that woman living in her car, terrified for her life most nights is living life on easy mode???? Grrr men have it so much harder they need to ask a woman out and think of a place to take her, have some compassion!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:48 AM
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Its a myth some men like to tell themselves. Do young beautiful women get some benefit from that beauty, sure. So do young, attractive men. So do people born rich, who went to the right schools, have the right contacts, have social and cultural capital, have sporting prowess or some other talent. Just because men want to stick their dick in a woman's hole doesn't mean he'll do shit for her. Men on dating apps easily like a woman but will not lift a finger to actually meet or agree a date. Also a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:44 AM
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You’ll have to define what you mean by comfortable and extravagant for this to mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:58 PM
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Yeah money isn’t arousing or sexually attractive. Having enough money to survive comfortably is good But it isn’t a turn on. It just signals your a responsible person, same could be said for women. Life is tough and nobody wants to carry dead weight for no good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:57 PM
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Well the statistics I see are for 40% end in divorce and 60% don't. Like I said you don't care about actual facts you just want to believe what you feel to be true because like a lot of men on here you refuse to accept any accountability and just want to protect your fragile little ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:36 PM
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That isn't even true for a start as around 60% of marriage do not end in divorce. People get divorced for lots of reasons, they may love a man but he's unfaithful or has addiction issues for example twice as many men as women have substance addiction issues, more than twice the number of women are abused by their partners as men are. Many women are blinded by love when they marry a man and only realise down the line that they and their children would be better off without him. Its also true that…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:24 PM
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He's probably just pissed that women have rights and access to their own bank accounts and can earn their own living now because without the threat of destitution hanging over them women are free to reject his sorry ass. He could take some responsibility for himself but its so much easier and feels so much better to blame feminism and be mad at women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:13 PM
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Sucks to be you I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:09 PM
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Honestly save your breath (or fingers) this guy doesn't care about actual reality only in making it all the fault of the women, he can't get a girlfriend or a woman to like him, well god forbid its his fault its all because of those dammed uppity women and their lack of accountability, this is the clarion call of the manosphere and this guy is drunk on the proverbial Kool Aid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:03 PM
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"I don't think women have the capacity to truly have love and real feelings for your average guy" and yet look around you and you will see literally millions of marriages that disprove this. As for the rest of your post, I don't even know where to start, this sub and the many of the men who frequent it are quite seriously messed up, its the same shit over and over. OP its quite possible that women aren't interested in you for reasons that are fairly apparent but don't extrapolate that to everyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:51 PM
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But it isn’t about what we choose to do rationally I am talking about it’s about what is baked into us biologically as a species. I am also a married, childfree woman but that doesn’t change the basic principle that in our desire to find a mate that women hold more cards than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:37 AM
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If you really boil it all down women are just more valuable in terms of reproduction and men are cheap so it’s a no brainier that men have to compete more fiercely and prove themselves in order to gain access to a mate, while women can pick and choose from a list of hopefu suitors. The sooner men here accept that and quit bitching about it the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:11 AM
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Yeah it’s fine to put your best foot forward that is normal but faking a persona is just weird and creepy and not actually conducive to finding and maintaining a genuine relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:07 AM
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Yeah I love my husband and am very happily married but if anything happened to him it would one take me a long time to get over losing him if I ever did and two I don't think anyone would ever come close to how I felt for him. I'd just focus on my friends, family, work and hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 08:21 PM
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Something like 75% of relationships don't make it past 2 years and many don't even make it that far. There is the infatuation phase which lasts like 18 months at the most and then after that we are left with the reality of the relationship and person. Sometimes that person is just not our person and the relationship ends, its nothing to do with the value of the other its just how it goes. Really the real love doesn't start until after the honeymoon phase that's when it gets really good, with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 08:17 PM
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lol don’t bother, it doesn’t matter what you say to them you will still somehow always be in the wrong to them so let them stew.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:04 AM
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It’s not the truth it’s the lie they tell themselves to protect their fragile egos from the truth because if the accepted that they might actually have to put some work in and change. Obviously many of them would rather die alone, untouched and unloved, angry and bitter that do that, sucks to be them I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:02 AM
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Yeah he’s finding out that all that talk about women loving older men was a lie men tell each other and not the truth at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:55 AM
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Yeah, sounds more like the OP has some major character flaws which his partners are unable to look past once the rose tinted glasses of infatuation come off. Rather than take responsibility for himself and work on his own failings he makes it all the woman’s fault that she is only interested in chasing the high of a new relationship and then he applies his self serving, false logic to all women and all relationship in spite of massive evidence to the contrary. Talk about mental gymnastics, this …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:32 AM
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I think its more likely that men with lots of options feel no imperative to be a decent partner while a man who is punching above his weight probably recognises his good fortune and makes an effort to be a decent partner. But nice try making it seem like women are somehow in the wrong and that their desires to be treated with decency and to have someone who is an actual partner to them as opposed to a liability is nothing but a foolish whim, as you put it. Most amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:39 PM
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Well I agreed with you on that but more often attractive women are with less attractive men, in fact there are studies which back this up and even suggest women are happier in relationships with less attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:28 PM
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Well your anecdotes aren't that compelling, but get back to me when men have a monthly cycle, menstruate can get pregnant and carry and birth a child and breastfeed and we will tally up who does the most work then shall we?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:54 PM
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Neither is my response.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:49 PM
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I don't know but I've heard red pill men talk about how gross vaginas and women are in general which makes me think they are all in the closet or something, which is sad because there is nothing wrong with being gay man, if you love dick embrace it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:43 PM
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I think you are right that people do pretty much go for others at their own level so to speak but it isn't as simple as that with women a conventionally attractive woman who was attractive to most men could still easily like or prefer a man who are is as conventionally attractive, I see it all the time. With my female friends I'm like why would she choose him when that other guy is into her and she could easily be with him, it doesn't compute but we all have our little idiosyncrasies. As for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:41 PM
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Why would anyone be applauded for doing the bare minimum I.e. earning a living and doing a a decent job at wiping up your own shit but you better believe that men expect a pat on the back for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:05 PM
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I wasn’t angry, I was having a laugh but it’s even more amusing to see how much I’m winding you up. Also I can’t imagine anyone is as miserable or pathetic as you for getting angry at a wee married women just enjoying some laughs at you when your supposedly a big strong red pill man. See this is the thing, you all talk a lot but have zero to back it up, your all very sad little men who I am not surprised have no luck with women. It would be quite tragic if it wasn’t so funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:49 PM
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Suck it up loser, and stay mad, I’m just having a wee laugh at you all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:19 PM
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I personally don’t think that status and money are super important in that I’d want a man to be high status and rich but more that a man who is hard working, reliable, uses his gifts, it trust worthy, doesn’t succum to addiction is more likely to attain a better income and perhaps some status in his field and community. The same would be true for a woman. We don’t all want the rich man with a garage full of flash cars we want someone who isn’t a bum, who contributes as we do, who is reliable and…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:18 PM
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lol, I am married you idiot. Being married doesn’t mean I don’t get a laugh out of reading this Sub though, but keep at it you‘re only digging your own grave in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:01 PM
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Nobody male or female should be getting their self worth from their appeal to the opposite sex. Unfortunately for most of us we very much do couple our value to how much we appeal to the other. It usually take until later in life to realise how futile and worthless it all is. It’s partly biological and partly societal. We should all strive to be more internally directed, not just men or women. After all we only need that one person to love, respect us and share our lives, what true value is ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 04:58 PM
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lol, the only thing I ever learn from this sub is that a lot of guys here have a screw loose (which is putting it kindly) and that women are right to avoid any guy who is red pill or red pill adjacent or even right wing traditionalist like the plague. Thank goodness for the internet so we know who and what to avoid 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 04:47 PM
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Also in reality if you ask a man to do a job like cleaning a room, vacuuming or even washing dishes nine times out of ten they do an incomplete job. They run the vacuum over the floor but don’t actually look to see if they are picking stuff up or use the tools to get the edges. They will wipe visible surfaces but let dirt accumulate under appliances or rinse the tub but not actually scrub the tub first so it’s still dirty. They will wash dishes but not scrape the plates first and leave the sink …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 04:39 PM
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I think a lot of men expect a woman to look after him and to recapture that sense of being loved and taken care by mommy as a young child. I do think that we all both men and women are to some extent seeking to recapture that feeling of being safe and loved and looked after in a partner. You lose me on the men expe partnership and women don’t offer that. On the contrary women seek a partner and an equitable partnership but then feel left high and dry by the men they enter into relationships with…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 04:25 PM
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I low agree with this, Ive never experienced or known women going after the guy to work out well. If a guy really wants you then he’ll move heaven and earth to make it happen and make the relationship work. That’s the guy to go for, the one who is totally and genuinely into you not some guy who thinks you’re better than nothing. The cost of relationships is much higher for women then it is for men so they need to know the guy is all in and he has to be the one to put his neck on the line, it’s t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 12:41 PM
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Yep, RP content creators are baldy, fat, old men who are like “don’t simp for her, simp for me” and the idiots lap it up. Most amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 01:58 AM
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True, as a European I grew up thinking the US was "the dream". Now I thank my lucky stars I wasn't born there and don't have to live there. Its not even that great to visit, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 09:35 PM
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It is ultimately a personal choice by the women doing so, many are angry and lashing out at men but really it’s more about protecting themselves from unwanted situations with unwanted people. I agree that it won’t make too much difference like all those Mgtow guys whoever the fuck they are? I’ve never missed them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:56 PM
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Yeah I kind of agree with my parents it was my mum who would actually apologise and my dad would do stuff like buy flowers and try to make it up to her without actually apologising. I saw the same thing with guys I was dating they just never said sorry and so many would have just ended up finished after the first argument if I wasn’t the one to make peace first. Are therecwomen who don’t say sorry sure but is this a gendered thing, I don’t think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:53 PM
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If your not sucking his dick then in his book your not contributing I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 10:55 AM
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I also think most women (except those who have been traumatised know most men aren't trying to harm them it is just that you never know which one will so it ends up that you treat all men with caution and keep them at arms length and are not especially friendly. It sucks but it is genuinely something women learn from a young age from experience i.e smiling at that guy on the bus that time you were 14 got you assaulted or harassed. Its hard because men complain women are cold and unfriendly, acti…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:57 PM
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I think it is more about values and both politics and religion play into that. People are more likely to be compatible with and align with those they share values with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:42 PM
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I agree no man in their right mind would say, yeah I’d rape a woman if I’d 100% get away with it, you’d look like a psychopath. However Gisele Pelicot was raped by at least 50 men when encouraged by her husband and they were from all walks of life with at least some holding professional jobs. So unfortunately it seems that at least some men would do such a thing given the chance, unfortunately we can’t tell who. Also see recent cases here in the UK where men happened across a woman unconscious i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 11:28 AM
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I’m glad to be aware of the red pill manosphere crap some men buy into. If a man displays even a whiff of that shit (and they always do) then he automatically disqualifies himself from my time and attention, a man like that just doesn’t exist to me, he’s nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:19 PM
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I met the man I’d marry quite young but I kind of agree. I was rejected by guys for being too quiet and not cool or edgy enough with some trying to shape me into dressing and acting like the kind of girl they wanted to be with. Some of this was just affectation on their part they wanted a certain kind of girl to enhance their own image of themselves, at that age they didn’t know who they were really and they thought they might be one of these cool party people with a huge gang of mates doing wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:19 AM
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There is a lot of nuance here. You can be a quiet introvert who enjoys reading and being at home while still enjoying adventures like travelling to interesting places and hill climbing (I know I do). Also this kind of woman (or man) doesn’t have to be boring or clingy, in fact introverts are often pretty self sufficient and like to be left to their own devices on a regular basis. Having said all that it is important for people to consider compatibility. I don’t mind a bit of socialising and the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:10 AM
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You're still utterly spineless but I guess your ok with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:11 PM
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Exactly this, I'd hate to think I was as spineless and miserable as the OP seems to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:52 AM
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I think in that situation she would have went to sit next to anyone (male or female) who was there who seemed normal and none threatening. I'm a woman and have had other women ask to sit with me in situations like this and on another occasion a woman who had just broke up with her boyfriend of several years approached me and asked me to walk with her to the train station as she was afraid of what her now ex would do as he was following her and shouting, crying and acting is a scary way. The diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:41 AM
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I feel like every post on here is just the same guy posting the same thing over and over in a slightly different way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 08:12 PM
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I think the OP should really abstain from all sexual contact with women just to be on the safe side!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 08:10 PM
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I think it is more that a man who has a lot of attractive traits and appeal to the lowest demographic i.e. a rapper or a footballer for example will attract multiple women who have little going on internally and so they fall in line with what their peers are into and getting a particular man is a way of proving their value especially if it means beating another woman out for the attention of a man. However most women are not like this, but women who aren't are just less visible in general they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:43 PM
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I kind of agree, women like the women men on here seem obsessed with do exist, my Sister in Law is one of them once very beautiful, a bit toxic and capable of incredibly shitty, entitled behaviour, thinks that she is literally the main character in every bodies life and throws a fit if anything happens to shatter that illusion for her. Gives it the whole "I don't need no man" schtick while desperately trawling for a man online. She's dating some guy now she'd have you believe was gods gift and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:26 PM
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I’ve only dated guys I’m attracted to and no I didn’t sleep with them in the first few dates at all, I didn’t always sleep with them full stop. I always dated with the long term in mind, even as a teenager I approached each potential boyfriend as possibly my future husband which is pretty ridiculous in light of how immature we both would have been but that’s how I saw things And if I was single now I’d probably feel the same. I consider myself a woman who enjoys sex very much and who has always …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:40 PM
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Men who use escorts are not part of my reality, I wouldn't touch them with somebody else's.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 12:31 PM
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I'm not a shag bag for some guy who is bored with his wife or can't get her affection to relieve himself into. I get that a lot of men would be into this set up but I can't think of any decent women who would be regardless of how much they may have once liked the guy. The whole thing is gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 12:28 PM
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I think people can move up the class system in the UK but not in a single generation it takes at least two, maybe three and a ton of support from the parents. Still what else is there? If you're having kids and can't provide that chance for them you're pretty much damning them to a life of misery unless things drastically change.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:55 PM
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I think there was a bit more possibility of class mobility in the immediate post war era but that has been on the decline since the 70's although the myth of meritocracy still persists. From a middle class persons point of view I think it makes sense in that in the UK at this point it takes more than a good education and a good job to provide what would be considered a middle class lifestyle and upbringing for any children it also now requires intergenerational wealth, which always existed but i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:39 PM
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I agree with this, I am from a working class background but I went to a good university, and dated boys from middle class backgrounds there. In the end they always ended up looking down on me and my family background. I'm in the UK where class is probably more of a sticking point than in other places.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 09:01 PM
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I've been with my husband since I was 18 and only had one boyfriend prior to him. I still have a few things my ex gave me a couple of non fiction books which I still refer to, a carved box and some jewellery. Non of it is out of sentimentality for that guy its just because I liked the items or found them useful, its probably that I told him what I wanted if he asked anyway. The other things he gave me I just got rid of in due course as I was done with them. I don't have any photos of him althoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:11 PM
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You should become a drug addled alcoholic then, live on the streets and get with a homeless junkie woman! Nobody is stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:57 PM
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We are both Scottish living in Scotland, been together 28 years (since I was 18 and he was 20) married for 25. We both contribute I'm an artist and sometimes I have a great year or month and make more than my husband who is an engineer so his income is more steady. We could live on his income alone, so money is never an issue. All our money is pooled and joint. I plan most of the dates find new restaurants to try, movies, plays, festivals or concerts to attend. I also do most of the holiday plan…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:37 PM
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Actually I remember reading (it may have been that study or another one) that women prefer men their own age up until they hit about 40 and after that they start to prefer younger men and it stick at about mid 30's for the most part. I think many women are realistic and know younger men aren't the best match for them across the board so they weight finding men their own age after 40 against being a similar life stage, same cultural memories and so on. I think this is about right most young women…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:15 PM
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Thanks!
/r/ExRedPill14/09/24 05:01 PM
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Thanks, that is interesting to hear I think many guys who start believing the red pill stuff and trying to put the advice into practice probably do end up losing the woman they are trying to keep by controlling them. I'm sorry you had to deal with all that in reality that must have sucked but glad you are now free!
/r/ExRedPill14/09/24 05:01 PM
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Thanks for those links I will look at them for sure.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/24 04:58 PM
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Yeah I think that is true, I saw that a few of these guys have been exposed one way or another and for a lot of them its just about the money. I think there is this one guy called sandman who just gets paid by men to rip into women in which ever way he's been directed to by his paying customer. Its very creepy.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/24 04:56 PM
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I suppose it is possible that people have been affected by online dating in a way that isn't easy to understand if you aren't doing that.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/24 04:55 PM
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I think I know who that is, I saw his videos and yeah that advice to women to be as slutty as possible with men in order to audition for the role of girlfriend or wife is the worst advice I think I've seen. That man also was interviewed on Diary of a CEO where he spoke about how he didn't need a woman he was with to have anything to talk about or a connection because he had friends for that he just needed her to be hot and sexual. He's also a man who looks to be in his 50's and is unmarried and …
/r/ExRedPill14/09/24 04:53 PM
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I do logically know that but sometimes that kind of negative energy can have a pull. I can't imagine how much of an effect it must have on young men.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/24 04:24 PM
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Thanks I have saved his channel and will watch some of these videos later!
/r/ExRedPill14/09/24 04:23 PM
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Yes thank you this is helpful indeed.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/24 04:22 PM
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Really I didn’t even know that, my Dad is Jewish so that’s just a big no non for me.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/24 11:20 PM
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Yeah I think you are right!
/r/ExRedPill13/09/24 09:19 PM
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Yeah I'm trying to do that!
/r/ExRedPill13/09/24 09:12 PM
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I know that but it does get under my skin at times like I read the crap on purple pill debate and it just really angers me at times. If I could just always ignore it 100% of the time I wouldn't be posting here.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/24 09:09 PM
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Logically I know that but something in that content is definitely triggering me. I'm not in danger of becoming red pilled I just end up giving it too much head space.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/24 09:04 PM
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Did you read the post at all? That isn’t what his post is about if you actually read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:40 PM
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I hope so to!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 10:08 AM
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I told him I thought he was living in a fantasy world and never to say anything like that to me again. He didn’t make a physical pass at me and honestly the guy doesn’t have the best mental health and so I kept what he said quiet as my husband and his brother are this guys oldest friends and he needs them. Now we just stay out of each others roads and he seems to have a nice girlfriend now so it’s all in the past but yeah it must have been embarrassing for him and it was uncomfortable for me. Ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 10:01 AM
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I really don’t know, it was just after one of the lockdowns and to be fair many people went a little crazy at that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 09:51 AM
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Yeah big declarations of love to someone you aren’t with are kind of a form of oneirism, strictly in the realm of fantasy and it can be quite disrespectful. Like my husband’s friend telling me he loved me while my husband is upstairs on a teams meeting, like dude what are you thinking??? Same could be said for women who do this, it actually smacks of narcissism that anyone would think that would be appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 09:41 AM
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When my husband is emotionally vulnerable and expressive to me a I love it and I definitely think it brings us closer. I do recall a few years after graduating university a guy on my course who I’d been casual friends with sending me a package for valentines day containing chocolate and various trinkets along with a letter where he detailed a revelation he’d had that he was and had always been in love with me and that we should be together and all the ways in which he wanted to express his “love…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 09:34 AM
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Thats why I prefered to meet me though friendship groups, university and so on. not on apps or online. That provides a kind of pre-vetting. Also a guy who has the balls to ask you out even if he is shy in a situation where people you both know will know about it, that’s also a green flag about the guy. It doesn’t matter if you buy it, this is advice for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:14 PM
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I think you are probably right.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 03:53 PM
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My husband is really shy by nature but he liked me so so much he knew he couldn't afford to let me slip away so he asked me out. That's all you need to do. That and don't be a dick if she says no. I don't generally advocate women asking men out because if a woman isn't interested in a relationship with a guy she will usually reject the man but men who aren't interested in a relationship with a specific woman are much more likely to accept the woman's advances even if he isn't interested in her a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 03:53 PM
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You don’t get it do you? I’m not trying to debate him or you or even talk to you at all, your take on what I say or how I respond is irrelevant to me. I’m only talking to women who might make the mistake of listening to men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:21 AM
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I get that you want to be able to take me down a peg or to and two and hurt me but I have no respect for you or anything you might say or think so don't even bother. For any woman who might be reading, do you see what is happing here? Can you see how pathetic and inconsequential these men and their puny little ideas are? Do yourself a favour and block them all out of your life, just don't given them any of your time or energy, don't waste a moments worry about their opinions of you because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:53 PM
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Like I said above, I really don't care about what you think or say so you can save your breath, I'm only here to warm woman not to listen to what you say or to care about what you think and to stay away from men like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:49 PM
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What you think about what I say is of no consequence to me, I'm only here to warn women away from men like yourself and to remind them to pay no heed to anything you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:02 PM
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I don’t hate men I‘m very happily married and have good men in my life which means I’m good at avoiding losers and abusers, the kind of men who mainline red pill shit. It’s my advice to all women to wake up when they smell the red pill shit off any man and high tail it out of there. That man will never will never be any good to her or be able to have a healthy mutually satisfying relationship. I’m not surprised you don’t like me saying that when men like you want women weak so you can victimise …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:33 AM
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OP don’t worry about it, you don’t want the men who think like this anyway, it is dehumanising so if you are seeing a guy and get even a tiny whiff of red pill type shtick just dump him, block him and move on, only losers and abusers go for that crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:36 PM
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This is 100% my findings as well, there was even An attempt to find a biological urge to reproduce and they couldn’t find it because for millennia the urge for sex and to pair bond took care of that and babies were a reliable outcome of those drives. There is also mammalian urge to care for their offspring in females but this only occurs after conception and birth. What they found that when people spoke of an urge to have a child was that it was really more psychological i.e. Social pressures, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 11:46 AM
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lol, someone make a skit about this https://www.tiktok.com/@contentmachine/video/7314713031357861163?lang=en
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:50 AM
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lol, another self own from the OP 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:55 AM
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Yeah, he’s really not interested he just wants to bitch and moan about women. His OP is the biggest self own I’ve seen on here in at least a couple of days 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:08 AM
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If true general artificial intelligence were to be achieved there is no way it would have any interest in chatting to an average human. These "AI companions" will always just be language model chatbots, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:19 PM
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That's up to you of course perhaps look into negative attachments if you ever start to feel differently. But you really cannot change these men its all only stirring anger which perpetuates and feeds their hatred. The best way to annoy misogynists is to not give them the oxygen your your attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:44 PM
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This sub is a very negative place and there is enough negativity in the world for women without engaging in it here. I would gently encourage any woman to stop coming here because it is pointless by coming in and trying to engage we are only encouraging them and its time to stop, Let them stew themselves and lets focus on our own joy and happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:38 PM
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I just think no woman should actually be here interacting if I am honest. These men are right in some ways we women all have better options and better things to be doing than allowing the negativity of the sub to taint us. Why would any woman give these men the gift of her time and attention is beyond me, I am only here to encourage women to walk away and disengage from this space.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:35 PM
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I think this can happen, for example this sub could be infuriating if you let it be but you have to just let it go. There is zero point in engaging in debate here or trying to change anyone's mind online. The fact is the kind of people who say stuff on here are irrelevant to me, my life and my goals. If some people are bitter, resentful and angry then let them be, let them stew in their own juices, it isn't my problem. That goes double for real life interaction with people who spread negativity.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:32 PM
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Maybe if she is over 40, in which case many women are choosing to be single after being stuck with crap husbands for potentially decades but we are talking about young women who end up single in their late 20's to early thirties, those women can find new partners and husbands without much issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:45 PM
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I don't know most of the women I know are educated to Masters level or have doctorates so I don't know any who are looking to be housewives, I suppose it may depend on the circles you move in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:48 PM
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Your personal arrangement is between you and your spouse. Most women work and want to work and are often times the higher earner these days and are still expected to do the majority of the domestic labour and childcare, that is unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:35 PM
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I know quite a few childfree couples in their 30's, 40's and 50's who have been together since collage and they seem pretty happy to me. I know this is a hard fact to understand but not everyone wants the same things out of life. I wanted kids and I had them and I love being a mum but not everybody does, here is another shocker for you some people have kids and straight up regret it, like hate every minute of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:35 PM
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Well then men need to do 50% of the domestic labour.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:31 PM
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I know quite a few age gap couples which have been really successful but they are all couples where the woman is significantly older than the man so between 8 and 18 years age difference, all long lasting, happy, many with kids and married. I don't know any where the man is significantly older, there was one where he was with a woman 7 years younger in his early 30's (he left his wife he had kids with for her) but she left him after a few years and married someone else he is on his own now as hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:27 PM
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Well I met my husband when I was 18 and we married out of college but that was very rare, even then. I am in Europe and I would say that across the western world as a whole most young people going to their parents at 21 and saying they wanted to get married to their boyfriend / girlfriend of 3 or 4 years would be strongly advised to wait. So anomalous areas or individuals don't really change the conversation for the culture at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:58 PM
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lol, nice try!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:40 PM
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What is different about that from a woman seeking a man with the wherewithal to provide for her and her kids. If your going to call women gold diggers then I can just as easily call men gold diggers which they are. Why is it only gold digging if a woman expects the man to offer something in return for all she does for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:19 AM
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Their beauty, their fertility, their domestic labour, their emotional labour, their childcare, their money, the social status they impart on men just by being with them, if the woman has any property or assets then they look to make use of that as well, the list is endless. These are all values and resources a woman has or may have that a man wants to use for his own benefit, men are the original gold diggers. Whatever a woman has a man will take it and use it to better his own life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:01 AM
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Except this isn't true at all is it? Women come out of one long term relationship and then get married to the next guy all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:43 AM
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I know they just change with the wind on here, I actually think women should just stop engaging with the men here because it doesn't matter what the situation is the woman is always in the wrong and undeserving of any sympathy, they will do a 180 on what they just said so that they can hate on the woman under any circumstances, they just hate women so why do we even bother with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:40 AM
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I don't think you know what consummate means and if the sex is a no go the annulment is on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:36 AM
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I am not sure I agree, I know loads of couple who were together through Uni then their 20's and finally after a bit of wrangling get married in their early to mid 30's and go on to have kids, it is pretty normal actually. The issue is that the women who wait it out and the guy then leaves after 10 - 12 years together loses in a big way. Not only is she now single in her early 30's with her fertility counting down but she is also burdened with a huge amount of emotional baggage. That woman is in …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:32 AM
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There is always annulment, if you can't consummate the marriage then you were never really married.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:27 AM
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People have always been having premarital sex, anyone with an education who has read fairly widely will know this. The difference is that a pregnancy would usually result in marriage. Was it better back then? Probably not, although we have different difficulties now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:26 AM
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Perhaps she loved the guy? We're always hearing how ruthless women are and how they don't truly love men and only care about men for what they can give them but if she actually loves someone even though she is getting shitty deal then she is stupid dope who doesn't deserve any sympathy. Women cannot win with men here. In reality many women are like Emily and get strung along for 10 years and eventually the guy does marry them, and they get the family and the life long relationship but its a big …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:22 AM
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In my observations it is much easier to get a man to commit and marry within the first 2 years of dating i.e. the honeymoon or infatuation stage that may not be the wisest move but it is one of the best ways to ensure marriage. If people could actually be rational then they would be able to see reality as it is and then make a rational choice for themselves but unfortunately people are driven by fear, or what feels good in the moment or are just plain lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:16 AM
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I think this is true, many men complain about women's standards being to high when they themselves are delusional about the kind of women they could get.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:12 AM
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Like men aren't also gold diggers looking to mine a woman for every resource she has to offer him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:11 AM
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In the specific case of couples that meet when very young so late teens and early 20's culturally in the west it isn't really acceptable to get married very young anymore especially for degree level educated people. Men are much more amenable to marriage in the earlier stages of a relationship i.e. the honeymoon stage which lasts around 18 months to 2 years. If you look at the past it was pretty common for couples to start courting then be married with a baby on the way within about 2 years. Now…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:59 AM
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True but a lot of men are delusional about what they can get, there is a good chance that the cute girlfriend who can make nice muffins is the best he will ever get but he still this fantasy of himself scoring with Instagram baddies if only he get jacked enough, had a different car or a better paid job. By the time he realises that is never going to happen his cute girlfriend is long gone and hopefully married to someone else or as can happen is now messed up and bitter over how he used and disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:40 AM
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I've certainly seen a good deal of this in my peers i.e. the college couple who are to all extent and purposes loved up, committed and compatible but the guy has to be pushed pretty hard to finally pop the question. I'd say that most of the time the guy in question does finally propose especially if the long term girlfriend actually breaks it off with him and he realises he's about to lose the woman he loves unless he acts to make her his wife. I'd say that it could be in a woman's interests to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:28 AM
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I think women just need to stop engaging the men here, its a total waste of time and energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:59 PM
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This place really is pointless, you are all locked in a prison of your own making, enjoy the rot sad sacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:47 PM
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I never gave her a rating as you put it, I said she was beautiful and she is. The guy she is with now is short 5'7 or 5'8 at the most, balding, has a very average body type with a bit of extra fat on him, not muscly at all. He works in an amazon warehouse, lives in a house share, not a lot of money and is an immigrant to this country. He seems like a nice guy though. Sorry I know it must upset you to know that your black and white view is what is holding you back as opposed to what is actually h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:24 PM
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This is exactly what I thought as well, I am like huh? Some of the guys my friends are with, I don't find them at all attractive and I've heard others say the same about my guy, but seriously I'd never say what I thought of my friends male partners looks that is just rude. My cousin especially is very beautiful and has her pick of men but has the oddest taste, l feel like she really picks the worst looking guys to date but at least her current guy seems like a decent person. So in short the OP i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:44 PM
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I suppose a woman might be in an abusive marriage with a husband who treats her like crap and doesn't lift a finger around the house but she feels like she couldn't cope alone then her cousin or workmate gets a divorce and is ok, struggles a bit but is no longer being treated like crap or left to do everything around the house for her kids and another adult. So that woman sees that it is possible to leave and be ok, I can see that happening. What isn't happening and what the OP implies is that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:13 PM
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I think its when someone only sees a woman though that lens i.e. her sexuality, to them so that is all that counts in their mind perhaps or that is what they would do if they felt they had the option but for most women it is just a part of life not the whole of it, we have lots of other things we want to do with our lives!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:28 PM
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Yeah yours too! I don't know what some people image we get up to, we have more in our brains than just getting male attention!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:49 PM
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I also got my BA and MA degrees, I moved to Prague, lived in Dublin and London, travelled everywhere. Trained and worked as a cinematographer. Met many people, got fit and strong, I was in a band, I built a telescope, learned how to cook, read many books, retrained as an illustrator which which is what I do now. I wasn't "slutting it up" I have been in a relationship with the same guy since I was 18, not that it would be any bodies business if I had.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:45 PM
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In a relationship you want things you both enjoy like enjoying similar holiday destinations, liking some of the same music, films, tv shows, books, food and so on. They there are things that your partner isn't into as much as you but they enjoy it enough to do it with you sometimes such as gaming, sports, visiting an art gallery, a nature reserve or whatever. Then it is also nice to have things that are separate and you do with other friends or on your own. I am not into sports at all but I enjo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:03 PM
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This is the dumbest shit I ever heard and I've seen a ton of dumb shit on here. Now only will women cop on to this immediately but they will hate it and it will instantly negate any change a guy would ever have had with them, its like these guys just doubled down on being everything women were rejecting them for in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:55 PM
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This is literally the hottest guy on PPD!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 01:22 PM
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Also social class, in the UK where I am it is quite unusual for people to marry outside the social class they come from regardless of where life takes them, performers and artists are the main exception to this I'd say.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 08:59 PM
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There is no point in worrying about what random men think of you, their opinions on you and your appearance are totally irrelevant. You are fit and healthy and have a partner who finds you attractive so what randoms on the internet or irl think of you or your body type is unimportant. Even if you were single it is still irrelevant, you can't change your frame size even if you wanted to so all you can do is be yourself and find someone who likes you as you are. The men who reject you or think you…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 10:27 AM
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Well my background is Catholic so that may be a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:23 PM
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I think about 90% of adults I know over the age of 25 are coupled up and most have kids. Even at younger ages most still have long term boyfriends or girlfriends and will probably get married at some point. So I think that most people are still getting married and having kids where I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:20 PM
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As a woman if you do say to a guy I like you a lot and I'd like to go out with you get to know you better then 9 times out of 10 that man will use that opportunity to get what he can from you whether he likes you or not. Even if he isn't all that into you, if he doesn't think you are especially attractive or cool, even if he hates you he'll still be interested in having sex with you and getting what he can from you, using you as a place holder or whatever until he can get a girl he really likes.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:51 PM
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I think most people can be attracted to a variety of types and aren't restricted to one exact body type, skin tone or look.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:44 PM
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You do understand that these are both fictional don't you OP? You do understand what fiction is? I hope the OP is just trying to wind us up here otherwise, yikes!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:07 PM
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My Husband and I were both broke students when we met, then he worked a warehouse job for a couple of years after graduation before he went to Dublin to get work in his field. It meant that we had to be long distance for a year but we saw each other every 3 weeks and made it work. It was years before either of us had any money, we are both from working class backgrounds and first in our families to go to university. People here will tell you different I think but many women don't need or want a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:33 PM
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Look you are missing the point and you don't want to get it so I'm done here. Poor, uneducated women even if they are very pretty do not typically marry middle class, wealthy, educated men, those men may use such a woman for sex, have an affair with her but only a vanishingly small number will actually marry them. I'm sorry but you don't know what you are talking about, talking about "queens, kings and peasants" your living is a stupid fantasy world. You have no clue what real life is like it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:22 PM
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You are wrong on this, I know this little argument is convenient for men on here and perhaps many men on here are lower class and have low education levels, many perhaps do not even work so there isn't really anyone to date down with. Middle class people, people with a high level of education, with assets and so on tend to marry those like them. Sorry but reality doesn't back you up, Everyone wants a partner the are attracted to and women are heavily socialised to conform to the beauty standard,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:05 PM
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You are just going round in circles entertainment is entertainment it is escapism not real life, if you can't see the difference then I don't know what to say to you. Women are not all the same, shocker I know but it is the truth. As I said most women just want to receive some affection and appreciation, sadly many men do not even provide that. Finally you don't get to make put a label on me, you do not know me and I doubt you are qualified to make such assertions. I'm done talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 08:57 PM
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Well as a woman I can tell you it isn't true that women want to be continually romanced, throughout the relationship. I am married and so have plenty of experience in how a long term happy relationship is conducted. Your assertion was that women want to be "chased" to have peace being chased and romanced means uncertainty and while such conditions may generate excitement for both men and women in the early stages for a relationship it isn't conducive to a long term relationship. Showing affectio…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:50 PM
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Everybody wants someone roughly on their level, that isn't hypergamy (which is a misused term in this context) but it is about compatibility or if you want to use sociological terms we could say assortative mating, which is what most people do. I've certainly know plenty of middle class, university educated (average looking) men turn their noses up at lower class, uneducated women regardless of how pretty they are, at the most they may sleep with them but they don't want a relationship with them…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:43 PM
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Not all women watch that stuff, I certainly don't, sure some women may watch is as escapism just as other watch horror movies or sports but it is just entertainment, if you enjoy slasher movies does it mean that you want to be stabbed to death by a man man? No, TV and fiction books aren't reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:09 PM
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I dislike the whole alpha male schtick myself, it never feels genuine it always comes across like a performance and reeks of insecurity rather than just being upfront that you may not know what to do in a particular situation. I like someone who is an equitable partner, someone who has the initiative to make a decision on his own if he needs to and as I can but who will also discuss and talk things though with me most of the time. If someone just assumed they were boss, well I wouldn't be in a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:11 PM
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"Most women want to be continually romanced/chased to have peace" Sorry this is utter nonsense and doesn't even make any sense, most women just want to be shown some affection and appreciation now and then and to feel that they can truly trust their male partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:28 PM
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I think red pill gives some men who have had bad experiences lets say a sense of control and a way to externalise blame, that is why it is seductive to so many men and that is why so many predatory men make monetised red pill content because they know confused, angry men with give such content their time and attention. There is some good advice in there to be fit and healthy as you can to develop skills and grow as a person without being bounced about by what you think others want you to be is g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:51 PM
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Lots of women also like peaceful lives but they need a partner who will at least be a grown up and not treat her like an unpaid skivvy and will show her some love and tenderness. I agree its unreasonable of women to expect the princess treatment and if they need that to feel into a relationship then its kind of a bust anyway but quite a lot of men do put on an act of to get a woman then just switch off and expect her to take care or him his home the kids to contribute financially and be availabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:43 PM
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Not every woman does its nice to know you are liked but that works both ways and what really counts is what happens after that point. Women who expect to be wooed in a big way with loads of extravagant romantic dates, gifts and so an are unreasonable to expect that. It isn't a natural way to be and if you need that to feel invested then you probably don't like the guy all that much. Sure its nice to push the boat out once in a while but when you really love and enjoy each others company an eveni…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:37 PM
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When a woman gets into a serious relationship and especially if she has kids she is basically signing up to a life of servitude and in many ways she is putting her dreams and desires on the back burner for potentially decades, not to mention the potential for serious harm to her body and health. For many women this is worth it, motherhood may be their dream, but parenthood is hard and can unfulfilling drudgery in the day to day. Single women side step all this and have more autonomy to live as t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 09:39 PM
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I agree and even when I did like a guy it wasn't ever like "oh I want him" sexually it was more that I thought he was nice, cute and sweet and wanted to get to know him better it wasn't overtly sexual, it was more romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:59 PM
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I think most women's concerns about this kind of thing are more based on them looking back and remembering times when they felt they were taken advantage or or manipulated when they were young and put in positions where they felt things were out of their control. Its do do with how women are socialised as well, so making excuses for people and to be obliging, women know that many younger women will end up going along with things that aren't what they really want or are not in their best interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:48 PM
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Personally at 25 I would have found men that age way too old for me and so would my friends, I certainly remember we would share horror stories of men that age trying to hit us up and cringe about it. Even if they are attractive men most women just prefer men around their age so if you are 35 and want to date a 25 year old you need to try and find the very rare young woman who would be prepared to date a man approaching middle age as this is what 35 is to a 20 something. To be honest I can not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:19 PM
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Isn't this one of the reasons married men live longer because their wives basically pester them to go to the doctor when something isn't right? Left to their own devices many men, not all but many just don't see a doctor when they need to. I know a few (single) men who actually died because they didn't see a doctor in good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:39 PM
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Bingo!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:22 PM
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So assuming that he isn't too much younger my expectation would be that it isn't going to go anywhere, that if I got involved with someone younger and got attached, fell in love I'd probably only get hurt when they left due to being at a different stage of life and not wanting to settle down at the same point as me or I might think that while I would be happy cosying up at home much of the time they would want to be out partying which is fair enough but I would anticipate that as a source of pot…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:22 PM
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I don't think its hustle and grind or women's standards to just be out in the world, that used to be normal for everyone. If you wanted to study you went to college, in person, evening classes in person, you hung out with friends in person, hobby groups were in person even if you were a geek you'd be at your battle re-enactment group or astronomy group. If you worked you'd be there in the flesh. Now its easier for people to be in their own little bubble and yes it is a comfortable place to be bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:29 PM
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I do agree with you in many ways although I'd say that promiscuous people can be successful male and female and they may be stable in other parts of their lives. I do think though that people will be happier in relationships where they are on the same page about this and across the board, that is what compatibility is. I also think you can say "not for me" without condemning how others live their life but equally they shouldn't get bend out of shape for getting knocked back.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:14 PM
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Well I think that the "insecure" aspect is that a lot of men are worried how they will measure up to the woman's previous partner or at least that is the perception and it is something I've seen echoed online spaces it is also often issued as a judgement, that a woman is trash because she is promiscuous. For me it isn't about worrying how I'd compare and more a concern for my health and common sense about where someone is at mentally and emotionally at that time of their lives. It may not bother…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:04 PM
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Yep, I've been actively put off dating guys I know are promiscuous, it isn't a moral thing but more that I suspect they are more likely to have STD's and that they are less likely to be a good partner at least in that "phase" of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:12 PM
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Yeah I think we all need to cut each other some slack over stuff that happens when we are young as relationships at that age are a way to learn, to begin to understand what we want or don't want. Most of us will experience getting dumped, rejected and so on and at that age it seems so intense but really its just cause its all new and we're all learning. When you get older you can see how those experiences were useful but not all that important in terms of the actual relationship. Its not always …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:37 PM
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I do think some men do like women who will take them in hand and boss them around and push them. I remember Dustin Hoffman saying that a man has to be afraid of his wife. Personally I disagree, I think a "different strokes for different folks" situation. Some men like that others prefer someone more easy going or someone who will be an equal partner. I do think that in a healthy relationship couples should be able to talk and that its not unreasonable for either party to being attention to harmf…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:21 PM
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I think it can be easier for a woman to get a date but as far as getting a relationship not so much. I think sometimes as men will cast quite a wide net when it comes to women and they will get involved with girls they might not actually like all that much and so they seem really keen until you actually start dating them and then they are like you should dress like this, wear your hair like that, be into this stuff, I wish you were more like so and so, you're too fat, you're too skinny, you aren…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:15 PM
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Very well said for domestic and family stuff the buck always stops with the woman, when my partner had joint pain I tried to make an appointment with his doctor but the receptionist told me sorry the patient needs to call himself (UK NHS) so I told him to call himself but you need to call at 8am to get an appointment (UK NHS) and would he do it? No he wouldn't. So weeks go by of me reminding him to make an appointment and we are at his families for his Mother's birthday so everyone is there, he …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:51 AM
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Spot on, the apps cannot mimic that irl chemistry that is what really counts. Its tough new because people are more and more in their own space / bubble where we meet less and less people in the flesh and have less opportunity to get to know them over time so these connections have less chance of happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:22 AM
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Yeah I'm the same, I need to get to know someone in a kind of neutral context to know if I am attracted to them which is why app's don't work. I don't know if all women are the same mind you but I typically only get attracted to and want to date men I have gotten to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:35 PM
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Yep same here I was out today in town for about 4 hours running errands and I can't say I remember any male I saw but I didn't really remember any women either, I was just focused on what I had to do. I think in every shop I was in I used the self service till as nobody was on the serviced till. I also work from home so I don't see people day to day and like another poster on here said I am not really attracted to guys just by looking at them. When I've been attracted to men in the past its usua…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:22 PM
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I don't either, what do they mean by "romance" anyway? If I cook my boyfriends favourited meal is that romantic? If I make a playlist for him is that romantic? If he brings in my favourite cheap but hard to find chocolate bar or strokes my ankles are we watch TV, are those things romantic? I'm not into big romantic gestures to be honest, nor am I into romance films or books, to me its all about just being together, being kind, affectionate and showing you are thinking of the other to me its that…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:13 PM
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I think women just want a guy who isn't a bum, who has some wherewithal and is able to contribute to a basic standard of living as she is doing as well, it doesn't matter who earns more its just about making an effort and a fair contribution to the domestic set up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 07:02 PM
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I think this is a good point, people like different things some people thrive on drama on conflict while others hate it and prefer a quiet peaceful relationship others who find boring. Different strokes and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 08:10 PM
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I think you can be low maintenance without being submissive. Often women and men who appear to be undemanding and less confrontational are just smarter at getting what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 08:08 PM
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That woman is just saying sound bites, things she heard online elsewhere to get views. How is she an expert on relationships? She looks to be in her late 50's and single. Besides that saying "low maintenance" obviously means different things to different people. For some people low maintenance means that most of the time they are happy with a relaxed simple life, enjoying the little things together and having a fancy date or holiday once in a while. Honestly going out all the time, having to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 08:06 PM
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I think most of these videos are made by people (probably men) who don't care much about this at all. These video's are made specifically to pander to a certain audience, men who are angry and bitter at women due to rejection and find some kind of catharsis in these videos that show women crying, wishing for a good man or being angry that they can't find a man. Its really playing into a negative emotional state and is really unhealthy but like lots of things that are bad for us it can feel good …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 11:11 AM
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So you read all that and only left one little comment which doesn't even say anything? Okay.
/r/ExRedPill24/03/24 06:29 PM
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Seems like a lot of red pill stuff seems to be about teaching men how to abuse women in general but this video is grim.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/24 04:17 PM
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Mostly these women will be displaying bravado for the camera, as these videos spread it become a trope and I suppose some women might feel like if they don't say stuff like that it means they are not valuing themselves or have low self esteem. It's also true that these content creators go out and ask 100 women this question and maybe only a few on anyone night say this rubbish about my money is my money but your money is our money or men need to pay for me just for existing and so on and then th…
/r/ExRedPill22/03/24 03:25 PM
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have a reliable "breeding hole" at home you can access when you want, who will also raise your fetid spawn and cook you dinner. There is the dating profile right there, lol.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/24 03:14 PM
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I think you are right that it is obviously appealing to some on a very emotional level, even when you disagree and even find it pathetic its hard to stop watching. I'm not so aware of the history of the red pill and how it evolved but yes there does seem to be a victim mentality and perhaps that is something that is prevalent in society in general at the moment. Not that I am opposed to anyone having a voice or being able to talk about injustice in a productive way but I do see what you mean abo…
/r/ExRedPill22/03/24 03:11 PM
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On your final point that men do all the work in relationships from asking to proposal to sex. So on the sex, that just isn't true at all, if that is how it is for you then your having sex with the wrong people. Something I hear from other women is that sex is often too short to get into properly and that the man is finished by the time she is just warming up. The answer to this is good communications and a generous approach. Another factor maybe that men especially those with limited experience …
/r/ExRedPill22/03/24 02:49 PM
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Isn't this just a case of only seeing things from the point of view of the man as that is what you most easily identify with? Women do file for divorce more often but they often do that when they are at the absolute end of their rope after many years of a toxic home environment. Now this could be because both partners have emotional issues, lack relationship skills, treat one and other with disrespect but many women also divorce men they may still love and have feelings for but who has serious i…
/r/ExRedPill22/03/24 02:49 PM
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I think that the teen years are a really difficult time for both girls and boys, they are going though puberty and their brains are changing and developing in a way that literally effects our ability to be rational and objective at that age and these changes are ongoing until your mid 20's. They are figuring out who they are, their place in the world, what they want, doing exams, figuring out relationships, sex, adulthood and independence at a time when they are mentally going haywire and still …
/r/ExRedPill22/03/24 01:23 PM
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When I dated as a teenager a common issue would be the guy would be so into you and desperate for you to be his girlfriend but when you did say yes and were with them after a week or two they'd start up with all the comments and demands. Stuff like, why can't you dress like this, I like girls who have their hair, make up, clothes like this, why aren't you more like this or that girl, why don't you get into comics, video games so on and so on. One even suggested I change the shape of my nose, lik…
/r/ExRedPill22/03/24 01:10 PM
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Well I don't really know what you mean by "high value" as we all value different things and I wouldn't just be randomly having sex with anyone but if it was someone I liked and they told me they liked me but not in a romantic, sexual way then I'd respect and appreciate that. If someone I liked and they said they wanted to sleep with me but didn't actually like me I'd have zero interest in that situation, although I suppose I'd still appreciate their honesty in telling me so that I didn't make so…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:31 PM
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We don't have to stalk your profile its right there in your flair, its hard to give any credence to someone displaying such a lack of integrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 03:14 PM
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I've only been dumped once because my teenage boyfriend thought he had a better offer, so he was being hypergamous and thought someone cooler, hotter and older with a higher social status them me was into him. When this turned out not to be the case he tried to come back to me not just once but multiple times over the next 6 years including one very embarrassing occasion where he had a total meltdown screaming and crying, blaming me for his flunking out of university (this was years after we bro…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 12:10 PM
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Yeah, I love my husband so much, love our marriage and life together but if anything happened to him I'm not interested in anyone else. I have two aunts who were widowed in their 50's and one was really beautiful and could have passed for 35, lots of men were interested in dating her but she just wasn't interested and instead has a great life with her friends and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 05:35 PM
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I don't know if the OP is correct that single older women specifically are the highest users of antidepressants, I think older women in general are but a large part of that is that some antidepressants are used as first line treatment of vasomotor symptoms that accompany peri-menopause and menopause so hot flashes for example, so many women in that age group will be using these medications for that kind of thing as opposed to low mood. However it seems some people get a thrill out of imaging and…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 05:23 PM
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I also think the concept of hypergamy makes a convenient scapegoat for a lot of men and can easily be made to explain just about anything. Its not even a scientific fact its a sociological theory. It does seem that women find fewer men attractive than men find women so any woman who is healthy and not ugly will be attractive to a greater or lesser degree to a good percentage of men. While women might only find a few men out of any cohort attractive. The thing is that not all women find the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:56 PM
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But this seething rage at women is the ultimate turn off for any but the most psychologically damaged women. Sure life isn't fair, I had quite a few boys ask me out and seem very keen as a teenager and then bitch and moan that I wasn't hot or cool enough for them and pointing out how they'd really rather be with this or that girl who had no interest in them, I mean why bother asking me out then shit all over me like that? I could have become bitter and cynical about men but I just moved on and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:00 PM
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Women aren't a monolith, there isn't some code if you want an authentic relationship you just need to react to each person you meet as an individual. Some women read 50 shades of grey, but I didn't and most women didn't read it either. I also think that if in a relationship where the women feels valued and safe, where communication is good and trust is high, if she isn't achieving orgasm she will say so and her male partner and her will work together to make that happen so they both enjoy intima…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:46 PM
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Very hard to say, I haven't been single since I was 13.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:31 PM
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Yes they do just because it doens't fit your narrative and you only consider one demographic of woman doesn't mean it isn't true. In addition many if not most women also carry babies and give birth which is a lot more dangerous then any man's part in having children, women die and are left like life altering injuries from pregnancy and birth all the time. Sorry pal, your empty rhetoric doesn't wash with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 07:25 PM
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You are cynical if you really believe that, still people reap what they sow so enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 09:48 PM
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That's fine, women who don't want a man who doesn't find them being their authentic butch self attractive are happy to repel you. We all just need to be who we are and not pander to what we imagine this or that person might find attractive. Its only by being authentic and true to ourselves will be find the best match.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 09:04 PM
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No but you are being disingenuous by claiming everyone is as cynical as you claim to be, it is simply not the case and is literally a choice you are making.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:34 PM
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No you don't care about that and you don't care about other peoples integrity but that's up to you. Like I said my life works out for the better when I live with integrity and associate with others who do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:55 PM
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You're wrong, it works for people who value living with integrity over gaining superficial outward displays of success that they hope will impress others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:59 PM
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People, including traits you consider as "feminine" are largely shaped by culture, the culture changes and people change, its as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:45 PM
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Yeah sure, keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better but you are can't expect to be taken seriously by anyone spouting such drivel.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:31 PM
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I met my husband when we were both students and working for the summer in a factory to make some money. All the students would sit together at lunch and we got to know each other over weeks of eating lunch together. We were both really shy but it was obvious there was some kind of mutual attraction between us. When I was leaving he got my number from a girl I was friendly with there and he called me up and asked me out. It was respectful, direct and sincere and was built on a relationship built …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:29 PM
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You do know that woman do tons of heavy labour jobs like cleaning in factories and institutions, kitchen work, housekeeping in hotels, silver service waitressing is in many instances heavy work and somewhat dangerous, serious burns are not uncommon, working in factories, in laundries, in farming in nursing, and as carers (work done primarily by women) which can mean trying to lift grown men to help them toilet and wash. Lots of men also have office jobs or jobs that require little physical exert…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:12 PM
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It makes me chuckle, I can't take this kind of thing seriously at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:02 PM
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There is nothing wrong with feeling how you feel its how you act that matters, if you fall for a friend but they are already taken or not interested in you in that way then don't make them feel bad for your feelings or pressure them into anything more. Also just being friends with someone because you are attracted to them and hanging around them hoping for your chance is a shitty play.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:22 PM
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" In my experience" This is what you base your post on, your own personal (limited) experience which is in turn influenced by you, your personality and choices and circumstances. Personality, integrity and relationship skills on both sides are vital to keeping a relationship going and staying healthy. Sometimes one person slips up or struggles and the other has to pick up the slack, other times its the other. Lots of people end up with someone perhaps not as hot or more hot than them due to bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:20 PM
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I think it all depends on context. Many people meet partners through situations like school, work or other friends. In those situations its more relaxed as you get to know the person over a period of time and to some extent they are pre-vetted by the company they keep. Anyone male or female is wise to keep their guard up meeting a stranger online or in a bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:46 PM
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I've always found life works out better for me when I live and act with integrity but then life and love isn't a game for me and I'm not trying to "win" or beat anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 10:22 AM
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Not everyone is highly sexual and that is ok, its over hyped in society that people want sex all the time but lots of people both men and women have moderate or low sexual drives. Lots of people with higher sex drives also don't want to just have sex all the time with just anyone who takes their fancy, they also want a deeper emotional connection and trust with a sexual and romantic partner and lots don't want to pack on the PDA and prefer to keep that side of their relationship private. I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 10:18 AM
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I read this also, a woman (afab) who started transition and taking male hormones reported that she felt less nuance in her emotions and felt more irritability and anger and felt unable to articulate her feelings as she had before. She gave up transition and went back to being a woman and she regained her previous sensitivity to what she was feeling. I don't think this means all men feel this way but that it does show how hormone balance or lack of it can affect how we deal with emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:54 PM
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People are just different its not right or wrong, I'm more introvert and a bit of a loner in many ways, its just how I am built. Sometimes I wish I was more motivated to socialise as it would probably be helpful in many ways but I am far more motivated to seek time alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:25 PM
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Yeah to me having sex doesn't make you a good person it could easily mean your just a sociopath or something. I suppose to some men having tons of sex might mean you're perceived as successful but take some pro-footballer, having lots of sex with different women, its almost guaranteed that he's a total asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:23 PM
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I think the very popular idea that women get lots of emotional support is kind of false. In general when I have tried to open up to people including friends and family who I have previously been very supportive to I've been silenced, told I am burdening them, rejected, had people say I am lucky compared to this or that person, essentially they shut me down and its fair that they do, 99.9% of the time its unfair and inappropriate to dump your trauma on people. The main difference I find is that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:18 PM
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I suppose for some people they might meet people who can't do those things, I agree being able to keep a clean home, cook healthy food, look after yourself, hold down a job or raise your kids is like the bare minimum anyone should be doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:38 PM
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Too bad for your wife you didn't stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:36 PM
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" She'll give you 101% of her heart " You do realise that the situation you describe isn't love don't you? Nobody will ever love you that way, they won't even really see you. All you will be doing in the very few who actually respond to such a crude manipulation is tapping into some childhood trauma which will set them off chasing shadows, at best all you will be is an object, and I mean that literally for them to project their own personal psychodrama on to. There are no pros to such a situatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 02:00 AM
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There is a world of difference between claiming authority and being left to do all the shit work because many men deem it beneath them even when the work is essential. Again with the this was "my personal experience" so it must be true in general, that is textbook solipsism. If your experiences with relationships have been poor then fine but again its totally irrelevant and unimportant here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 01:46 AM
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Women don't "claim authority" over the domestic arena as you put it they are left to take care of it and bear the weight of the whole families expectation for the smooth running of the home because nobody else will take that responsibility. If a couple live together and pool their resources, have children together then of course it will be the woman buying the food, the clothing for the kids, cleaning products, and other things needed for the home from the couples joint income. You had a bad exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 07:11 PM
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But your personal experience is just that, it doesn't really mean very much in the context of national or global behaviour patterns. It doesn't extrapolate a larger cohort. There is actually research that suggests growing up poor does affect a persons spending patterns potentially for life. Growing up without ample resources means that a person is less likely to consider things like money, education, networks and so on as a resource that can be utilised in the service of a long term goal and mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:59 AM
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The thing is that a man's kids and his house is just as much his responsibility as his wife's. If a man's wife died he would have sole responsibility for both his home and his children, that's just how life works. Sex in a relationship is not quid pro quo for housework and childrearing, that is a homeowners and Fathers responsibility anyway even if his wife never had sex with him again. Paternity fraud is rare, and men also father children to other women while married and married men have more a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:52 AM
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Yeah its pretty grim how he speaks like that I typed up a heart felt response to his post as he sounds unhappy but he doesn't seem like a very nice person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:17 PM
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I wouldn't put off dating until you think you are ready for it because to me that sounds like an evasion tactic. I saw it a lot with both male and female friends when younger they fixate on a person who isn't available to them for example thinking only they will do when in reality they are just using that as a way to hide. The same goes for those who think they need to fix themselves. Nobody is ever perfect and putting off dating for sex improvement is just another form of deflection. Sometimes …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:15 PM
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It depends on what you value I suppose but my original post is correct though, it won't make you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:36 PM
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This isn't the case at all for many or even most women perhaps she was just lucky or had the kind of bubbly personality that people felt would fit easily into their usual group. For most women its hard to find a new group of friends when they move, and on forums for women there are many posts about how hard it is to make new friends when you move to a new area and how people already have established social groups that they don't have time for you. I had to move to London for work for 9 months an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:07 PM
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Keep telling yourself that, its clear you already lack integrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:50 PM
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I think attraction that is actually "actionable" develops in tandem with a closer emotional connection. Its two different things to find a man attractive or even sexy and actually wanting to sleep with him. Seeing a very attractive man doesn't make me want to go to bed with him, its just noted that he's a good looking guy. I'm much more likely to want to sleep with a man who I have a genuine connection with, who I feel emotionally close to and who I believe I can have a proper relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:34 PM
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I guess that is fine if you want to live without any integrity and become a low value person who preys on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:29 PM
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People give that advice because it is something potentially productive to say same as any advice given to people for anything. The reality is that online nobody knows what that persons actual problem is in attracting a woman who wants to date them. They could be ugly, unkempt, smell, stand too close, stare, be rude or unpleasant to be around or perhaps they just haven't been lucky yet to meet someone they like who likes them back. That is really the situation for everyone, there is a lot of luck…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:19 PM
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I think men often go after women who they find sexually desirable, beauty can be a part of that but it isn't essential and not all genuinely beautiful women are sexually desirable to the extent that a man would notice her. The biggest part of being sexually desirable is to appear sexually available and women who want to be noticed and approved of in that way will signal their sexual availability (real or merely projected) though various methods including things like plastic surgery, fillers, hai…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 09:01 PM
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Well I agree not everyone has good relationship skills but that isn't really "competition" as the OP claims it is people with impulse control issues, poor communication skills, unrealistic expectations, a lack of empathy, trauma, substance abuse issues. They are looking for excitement and an easy fix because it feels easier in the moment to sleep with someone else or get high on the emotional surge of a new infatuation than face up to your problems but if you never learn to deal with the issues …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:41 PM
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I'm a woman and yes men make their interest in me known on a regular basis, even very attractive ones but its irrelevant I'm taken, I love someone else and wouldn't throw a good relationship I am happy in away on a whim. I trust my DH to do the same. Is it a possibility, sure, I could also fall down a sink hole or be hit by lightning doesn't mean its going to happen and that I should let it control my life or thinking, that would be very unhealthy. If you have a good relationship, and good relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 10:58 AM
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Once you are in a good relationship it really doesn't feel like you are competing at all. Perhaps in the very early stages it might feel a bit like that especially if you know other people like them but to be honest that doesn't happen much. You are more likely to come up against what kind of girlfriend or boyfriend the other person hopes / imagines they could get or deserve regardless of how realistic that is either by their own potential to draw such a partner in or the existence or accessibil…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:04 PM
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