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Honestly i’m just blocking you. You’re odd and seem to have some sort of personal vendetta against me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:45 PM
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Uhh, no i am not lol. I am not apart of any female fitness subs. I don’t know what you’re going on about at all. I am on r/dating and this sub… What i am posting isn’t “suicide fuel”. Imagine thinking saying that maybe men should not center women in their lives and find another reason to live is suicide fuel. What the actual fuck. I have not DM’d any “female fitness user” i have no idea what you’re talking about 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:41 PM
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I do not need female validation. I’ve given up dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:36 PM
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I didn’t ask for physical stats? What are you talking about? I’m not justifying anything. I literally just said i don’t hate women. I’m not posting pics on dating subs. Whatever honestly. Again, why not just block me? I don’t have anything against you and why you’re airing out your personal grievances with me on a thread is a bit odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:35 PM
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Stats on what? If I dm’d you trying to have a good faith convo and you chose not to accept it that’s fine. I’m here to debate, if you do not want to do that and continue to troll my posts, again, just block me. Also, that still doesn’t explain why you’re choosing to engage with me if you find me so repulsive lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:31 PM
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Got deleted, i did not delete it. I don’t spend “most of my time on dating subs”. Look, in complete good faith, i’m going to explain something to you. I don’t want other men to constantly go through the mental trauma i had to go through by having me self worth reduced to nothing when trying to date. I’m trying to help men who think their only option is to continue to try dating in this toxic dating environment. I don’t know what your personal problem is with me, but if you want to keep attacking…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:30 PM
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Well well well, you’re back. Thought you weren’t going to engage with me anymore? Men teaching other men how cruel and unforgiving women and the dating market is isn’t setting them up for failure. It’s teaching them to not get their expectations up and that they may or may not be better off not trying to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:19 PM
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Absolutely not, that’s laughable, but keep white knighting, if it works for you it works for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:43 PM
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Regardless of a niche, they are not killing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:43 PM
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You definitely are, but it’s okay to you because it’s an issue that you have no stake in and you’ve already made it clear you have nothing but contempt for us so i’m not surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:58 PM
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And yet women continue to do it…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:58 PM
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Yes you are delusional because you come to a debate sub with zero intention of debating and instead just hurl personal insults at everyone whose opinion you disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:13 PM
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Hell, they get resentful just having loads of options and chad chasing. Can’t imagine how they would be as an average dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:12 PM
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Countless women are also sub optimal. Most women just think they’re entitled to chad. Women are wonderful effect in full force once again. Most women are also not that desirable as partners for relationships. Yet men are still the ones expected to chase and seek them out. Women conflate SMV and RMV ALL the time. They chase chad and get burnt and complain about it but are more content with that than the average dude. It’s laughably pathetic. Men are hopeless because women would rather chad chase …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:09 PM
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And yet when the source of that pain and despair is women why would these men even want to partner with them? Some don’t care anymore and just want their pain to be inflicted on others. Life is unfair right? Why should men care about women’s problems? They have zero empathy nor ability to understand why so many young men are hopeless, it’s just “be a man, pull yourself up by your bootstraps” bs. No, the dating game has fundamentally shifted and is leaving more and more men out of it. Women will …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:56 PM
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God forbid they ever stay within their own realm of average and find an average guy, but nah, they’ve shown time and time again they’re more content to share chad and complain about it than be in a fulfilling relationship with a guy on their own level in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:51 PM
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They will never, ever relinquish the victim card. I’ve lost count of how many times women have told me i’m just playing victim and want to be a victim blah blah blah when that’s all they ever do. They know how valuable it is so when the sense an arguement might chip away at that ever valuable victim status they’ll just start screeching about how you’re trying to be a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:50 PM
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This is what i’ve been saying. Just stop playing a game where you’re chronically disadvantaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:48 PM
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She’s a misandrist, why you’re even bothering to debate i don’t know. It’s admirable what you’re doing i’m afraid you’re just wasting your time. She has nothing but contempt for men except the ones she’s wants and thinks she’s entitled to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:44 PM
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Truly crushing realization.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:41 PM
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Most men will not experience women initiating conversations as even women here say they don’t do it unless they find a guy attractive enough. Most average looking men know not to interpret anything a woman does as romantically now if it ever does even happen because they know they are not the type of man women find desirable. A lot of men shy or not know the situation as far as dating goes is pretty much hopeless for them. Some of them will self improve to the point to where they’ll become desir…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:38 PM
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I love when they say just “man up” and accept the rejections, “life’s not fair”, “foots keep getting rejected before you find a girl that likes you”. I don’t know who they think they’re convincing, but most guys here aren’t that stupid and the BPs and women of this sub just completely ignore the damage to one’s mental health of being rejected again and again and again. Humans have evolved to seek approval and not be out casted as that could very well equal death and paleolithic times.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:24 PM
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I don’t think niches find unattractive or average men sex or love. Too much experience to the contrary. Why do you think so many younger men feel hopeless in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:21 PM
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Yes short ugly balding guys are killing it. Every woman here seems to have this anecdotal experience of ugly short men killing it in dating while all of the men don’t. Wonder what the disconnect is 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:03 PM
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Because she is very wealthy herself and is also a celebrity. Celebrities are not normal people…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:36 PM
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Exactly, you wouldn’t have approached your husband if he already wasn’t conventionally very good looking. This is not most men, and most men will never experience that. By the way, men don’t even interpret kindness from women as flirtation anymore, we know better. There’s always something else they want if you’re an average guy. My point is you tried to paint your husband as some shy introvert when if you’re a very attractive man that’s irrelevant. You can be a shy introvert as a chad or a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:40 PM
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Celebrities might as well not be real people. I hate when people use them as an example. They live in different realities than us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:38 PM
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Yeah hasn’t been my experience. There are always exceptions to rules but women don’t want to”absolute trash” let alone average guys, it’s not enough for them anymore to find someone who is compatible and works with them to create a loving relationship. The thrill and chase of a chad she wants to domestic is what the true prize is. Trying to chase and find a relationship is a game not worth playing for the majority of men now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:37 PM
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Riiight, here we go again. You think you know me based on my REDDIT posts. My reddit posts have nothing to do with why i’m single. I just dislike particularly arrogant people on here like you. Many of the women on here, like you, don’t come to debate in good faith. You come on a sub about dating dynamics when you’re already married, brag about your marriage, and wonder why it’s not well received. You are really not self aware at all are you? Nothing you said went over my head and i’m not put out…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:32 PM
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I could’ve sworn you referenced the same sex marriage rate rather than the hetero marriages. Maybe you edited it, maybe i mis read, doesn’t matter. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/05/18/intermarriage-in-the-u-s-50-years-after-loving-v-virginia/ Most of the interracial marriages are from asians, specifically from asian women. Hispanics are next even though they are considered an ethnicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:28 PM
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Oh no more insults. You seem to be the man hater no? Men’s personalities annoy you too much to date them? You seem to me to be the one here that commented on my post to start a fight. Fortunately i don’t feel like getting into a personal insult match with some random woman on reddit. Sad you felt the need to do so though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:21 PM
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The way you’re talking most definitely points to you systematically going through my comments. Nah, i just like trolling the women on this sub when they stop actually debating in good faith because at that point there’s nothing to actually debate. You just overestimate how much i care about you opinion, i’ll do whatever i like thanks. I’ve come to expect nothing less than personally insults and vitriol from the women on this sub, that’s why idgaf if i’m upsetting you. The women on this sub in re…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:37 AM
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Back to the personal insults, i’m glad you think you know me so well. nOnE oF ThEm wIlL WaNt tO DaTe YoU. Just shut up, you sound so stupid thinking you know the person you talk about it’s pathetic 😂 I can do fine for myself if I really wanted to put the effort into dating. You’re literally the one that omitted that 19% and cited the same sex marriage as the interracial statistic which isn’t relevant to this sub really. Since the topic of this thread is immigrants…. no i’m not lol. YOU are the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:32 AM
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Because again it’s a debate sub? I never said i couldn’t be wrong just like my point in commenting on posts is because my experience and the data i believe points to that poster being wrong. Who are you? Are you just going through my comments or something? Thanks for the insult, you can come up with something better though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:25 AM
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This is a debate sub. You’re welcome to try and change my mind, but like everyone else on this sub it’s just not likely i will. I didn’t even comment on one of your posts, is there a point you’re trying to make? You’re the one dating is impossible for apparently as you find male personalities “annoying” lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:21 AM
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So odds are he is really attractive and that’s why you were hitting on him. The vast majority of guys don’t happen into opportunities like this with women hitting on them. So in other words, OP wasn’t wrong at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:16 AM
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Oh come off it. Men want relationships. Not just to pump and dump. The whole men being the gatekeepers of relationships is not true anymore. Now chad pumps and dumps because he has enough options to. Unfortunately for us normal guys, i think we all understand at this point most of us are invisible when complaining about men like you’re doing right now, you’re talking about the men most women want. Men bend over backwards for women for much more than sex lmao. They want relationships and fulfilli…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:07 AM
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There are not as many arab white marriages as you claim there are, you just have social circles where apparently it’s extremely common, congrats i guess? You literally are the one that keeps bringing it up! I said one thing about immigrant men and you went and started again with talking about interracial marriages! It’s very weird… Interesting you have nothing to say about those studies now lol. Yes it was about having more options. I honestly think western men are fine with western women marryi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:04 AM
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Lmfao, yes that’s exactly what i was trying to do, you got me! 😂😂😂 I was obviously making a point, of which it flew completely over your head. Said point was about attractiveness being mostly facial. I wasn’t commenting on your life at all, i couldn’t care less about your life. You were literally bragging about being attractive (assuming this is true) you did not earn that at all. You having an easier time dating and finding someone has nothing to do about you earning anyone, it’s simply an unea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:00 AM
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Do you have some weird thing for interracial marriages? You know arab and north african is considered white in most census data right..? Also it’s less than 20% for straight couples, which is what this sub is primarily concerned with… Sexual frequency has been on a downward trend according to your source… let’s see… Average age of a man in marriage is much older than the gen zs that struggle to date today. Well, what do you know, your sources don’t help you as much as you think they did!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:43 AM
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Standing up for your husband on reddit? So brave. Not once did i say something specifically negative about your husband, you just think i did because your ego is sensitive clearly. Plenty of people care about me just fine, continue to c*pe, it’s not a good look and does not convince anyone here of anything you said, which you obviously care about doing to a great deal evidently. Again, for the love of god, i do not care about your life. Stop explaining your life or what you’re going to do, I DO …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:21 AM
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Because the fraction of men women want to get wife’s up by are not available and/or won’t commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:55 AM
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Oh no 😱 yeah let’s just take your anecdotal experiences about immigrants and women and take it as fact! Problem solved guys wrap it up and close PPD 😌
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:52 AM
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Just the fact that you had to throw in you were in debate in high school. Guarantee i earn more than you ever will, and i can tell you already you’re older than me. Must be embarrassing trying to talk down to someone mostly likely 6+ years younger than you who earns more than you now and will be in better shape than you ever will be. See? I can troll too. Not backing down to you is apparently giving an unrequested auto biography about how great you are that no one believes nor cares about lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:49 AM
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POV: Woman that supposedly has a great life tries to get into pissing match on reddit said life is so great she needs to brag about it on reddit. Hmm, something’s off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:35 AM
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Okay. Well mine and plenty of men’s experiences disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:29 AM
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Those same studies you’re vaguely referring to also show men work more hours on average. Most men are doing more outdoor work. So i don’t think you’re correct on that front. Doesn’t change the fact that apparently the only thing that’s good enough for most women are top tier men, then they don’t have to bring anything to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:57 AM
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I disagree. What exactly are women supposed to bring to the table other than sex and their affection?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:49 AM
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And yet they have the money to do it. They literally import fresh water from the west. They are buying up and sportwashing preparing for the end of oil. Coming to control quite a few assets. Sorry, you’re c*ping.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:39 AM
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Women don’t love anyone unconditionally other than top men, and that’s just because she knows other women want him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:37 AM
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Oh people have done experiments on tinder where people create profiles with a chad and say it literally supports nazism, they still throw themselves at him. You’re delusional. No surprise, it is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:35 AM
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This is such a tried narrative. Most women don’t want normal guys. As in average looking, average job, average build. They truly want to be with top tier men and think they can hand out sex and maybe just maybe chad will stay with them. Once late 20s early thirties roles around and she decides she might want marriage or a family then Average andrew gets to jump through circus hoops while they’re on fire and pay for every date in order to have the “privilege” of being with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:06 AM
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Oh you mean women in general who are only attracted to who chad is? Of course they’re only attracted to chad because of who he is on the inside 😌
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:02 AM
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If only this were true. I used to believe women were content finding someone they were compatible. Fortunately men younger and younger increasingly are realizing who the only ones women find compatible are. And some of them will even share unwittingly because they’re so “compatible”. That compatibility is called chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:01 AM
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Women have to bring much, much less to the table, not just for sex but also for relationships. Many men crave women not just for sex but their attention and affection as well. It’s ironic because she is showered with affection and attention but regular dudes all the time but the only one she is going to shower with affection is Chaddington Thunderstroke the third.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:59 AM
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If women are getting pumped and dumped, well we know who most likely is involved in that equation. His name starts with C or T. Moral is right, women can always find someone to love them and shower them with affection and try to make them happy. This is not true for men. You have to check of a laundry list to have women want to show you affection, and honestly the truth is it’ll never even be possible for a good chunk of men no matter how much self improvement is involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:56 AM
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Yes being yourself tends to work when you are already conventionally attractive and what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:53 AM
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Men bend over backwards to gain women’s approval and to be wanted by them. Most (Not all) men have constantly tried to improve a woman’s life/make her happy because women choose and men are the candidates. It’s more than just her body. Her affection and love as well. This is why women only chase chad, they are too desensitized to men’s affection and attention to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:52 AM
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And how did you meet him?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:44 AM
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Hardly fuming lol. The guy just moves on because he respects himself and isn’t going to tolerate that disrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:36 AM
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Except most western women already are not marriage material. Someone coming from a conservative cultures would realize this even more starkly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 10:31 PM
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And that arrogance is what is so revolting about you people. Regardless, men shouldn’t accept this status quo the way it is. More men should check out of dating completely and let women chase the top men all the want. Your entitled arrogant attitude would leave you with little if you didn’t happen to be born with something you’ve never earned, girl. I’m sure you get told all the time about how hot your husband is, sounds like some sort of reddit c*pe tbh, but either way, people like you are why …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 10:30 PM
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Yeah i did? Thanks for the personal insult though. Still don’t see what it directly has to do with what i said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:01 PM
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Not i don’t see many “hot” women dating non chads. And can you be more specific as to what that has to do with my point just for the sake of clarity?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:14 PM
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No one cares what your husband looks like lady. The amount of cognitive dissonance on this sub is astounding. Get on here to brag about your husband who is evidently conservative, but then say men being conservative and their attitudes are why they fail . No, they fail because of women’s hypergamy and preference for only chad. I’ll give you an example, i’m 6’1” good chance i’m also stronger and have more muscle than your husband, but, if he really is a “10” (not gonna take you at face value on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:02 PM
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It’s the temptation. Coming from a conservative culture and wanting to have fun but not wanting to create a family where there’s a strong chance it falls apart due to western values destroying a traditional family lifestyle. As i live in the west of i want a woman to marry and start a family with i have to mostly go after western women. Women from traditional cultures don’t move to the US like men do so that option is out for most guys, unless there is an influx of younger twenty something women…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:47 PM
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Except women do rewards racists in the west all the time with sex, just gotta be chad…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:38 PM
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A shit hole that’s literally building cities where everyone in the world wants to be… riiight. Doesn’t matter if they get their standard of living from subsidies or not. The infrastructure is still really good, most people are somewhat wealthy, and western women prostitute themselves out there via social media all the time. Oil isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:33 PM
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Vote for politicians that are unfavorable towards women’s causes, refuse to pay for first dates, stop bending over backwards to accommodate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:29 PM
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Right, what we have is sooo much better now. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:05 PM
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A small amount of guys do indeed get on tinder and get some regardless of whether they are married. All of the other guys are the ones who get nothing out of tinder or dating apps in general or to a lesser degree even dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:55 PM
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I am bringing up the point that in a lot of cases men from conservative cultures will see western women as ez and will chase for sex but won’t marry one because of the headache they bring and don’t want their kids to grow up with influence from a western woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:53 PM
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It’s ok, you can keep dismissing it and deny reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:52 PM
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What in that sentence contradicts? The men women choose DO often lie, but they’re given a free pass and get away with it. Most men have to be on top behavior to even have a chance to date bc they’re not chad. Chad or chad lites are given a pass to behave how they want. Those are the men women truly want and they show it time and time again by excusing poor behavior from them but having a laundry list of things that need to be met before even letting a guy take her out and pay for her dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:51 PM
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He was.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:36 AM
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Many muslim societies understand the social decay western values will inherently bring with them. I didn’t say all of them care. The more secular ones who weren’t very religious to begin with probably won’t care. But most of them understand on a baser level hypergamy and women’s true nature minus all of the pill lingo. Also they couldn’t actually prove causation in that study and found no correlation between disease predisposition, just a very modest increase in height (1.3cm) and cognitive abil…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:01 AM
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Or its the fact that women have attention and relationships on tap
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:47 AM
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Clearly not if they’re getting on tinder and women keep matching them and having sex with them… not sure what your argument is lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:44 AM
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Mods find any reason to remove posts they don’t like. See “OP abandonment”. What a joke. Just shut the sub down at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:17 AM
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One of those is a broken link, one is cbs, and one is psychology today which is not a reputable source on geneticism. Any more “sources”? Also the fact is many muslim immigrants come from much more conservative cultures and won’t accept “independent women” like a lot of the women here seem to spout off about. Cultures where women are much, much more traditional. They somewhat understandably view the west as decadent and weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 01:38 AM
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It’s really not that hard to comprehend. It’s hilarious when women say the male loneliness crisis is because they “don’t have friends” or some bs. Nah, if women weren’t constant showered with attention and options they’d be just as lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 01:08 AM
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I know not every man, but plenty of guys who have at least SOME options are not going to be like “ohhh okay i’m not desirable enough for casual sex but it’s okay if i take you on 5 dates and expensive restaurants and then we get to have mediocre sex before i provide you with emotional and financial stability”. Nah, honestly fuck that. Shit is so unbelievably insulting and you guys act surprised when men voice that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 01:03 AM
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I find it hilarious all these women complaining about guys being married or in relationships on tinder. The guys do that know they can fuck and tinder works for them and that’s why they do it. Women keep choosing these men and over and over we get this bricking and moaning about the bar being low. Dating in the modern day is a losing game for a large number of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:58 AM
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You were always gonna look for an excuse to hate men. It’s okay, there are increasingly more ways for men to satisfy their sexual needs and not need to be in a relationship. More and more men are opting out once they realize they don’t need women and relationships are often more torino’s than they are worth. It’s why the HVM fuck around without getting into a relationship, it’s just that more men that don’t have this option are also starting to realize this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:56 AM
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It’s really not that prevalent dude lmao. Most women of all races marry in their own race so i don’t know what racist fantasy you’re going on about but sounds like some white replacement conspiracy nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:52 AM
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Pretty much. The dating dynamics have tilted in so far in women’s favor a lot of guys who aren’t incels just getting tired of hearing women whine about their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:20 AM
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Don’t get butthurt when women who wanted those kinds of guys for casual sex has issues with guys taking issue with that then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:18 AM
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Why are you acting like white women are some prize that foreign men are seeking out…? Doesn’t this contradict your “women aren’t prizes to be won narrative”?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:54 PM
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They’re not in the race, they wait at the finish line…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:53 PM
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You seem to be racist and have some fantasy about white women wanting to be with brown/black men, ngl it’s kind of weird. Sure some white women don’t mind being with ethnic and brown/black men but it seems like you’re obsessed with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:52 PM
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All of the sudden all of the women on here are now married to immigrants just like they’re married to short dudes or balding dudes or not conventionally attractive dudes, funny how who they are married changes depending on the point they’re trying to make…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:51 PM
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The genetic thing is a really weird arguement and does not hold that much weight in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:50 PM
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Yes we know women love to date foreign men and will treat them as play things. Honestly no matter what kind of guy you are in the west regardless of race it’s a lose lose. Best to passport out if you’re a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:49 PM
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Yup, living in the west is lose-lose situation for very many guys regardless of race.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:47 PM
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Where tf are you getting this from? Most white women get married within their own race as do most women of all races… 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:44 PM
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You are actually ridiculous lmao, get a life 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:52 PM
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Looks are important to dating, and a lot of men are losing out. What now?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:49 PM
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Many red pill beliefs overlap with black pill beliefs. We’re just not calling them black pill. Also even blue pillers admit how important looks are and that ugly guys might just be screwed. Are they getting their posts removed because i’ve never seen it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:43 PM
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And yet you shut down any points your blue pill agenda personally disagrees with. Just literally happened 20 minutes ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:28 PM
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Nah, there are valid points brought up. BPs just like to label any point they don’t like as a pity party or circle jerking
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:12 PM
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Thankfully more men are starting to understand this and ignore these complaints.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:57 PM
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Yup, it’s completely nonsensical
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:54 PM
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And that’s where a lot of men’s lives experiences will highly disagree with you. When one person disagrees with another and they try to find a reasonable middle ground, that’s called a debate. There would not be so many single men that can’t find dates who are giving up if women’s standards in looks have not gone up significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:07 PM
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Then what’s the point of discussing anything? If we’re discussing why increasingly large numbers of men are excluded from dating how is that not relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:03 PM
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But what is woe is me? Simply stating what many men to believe is true? I agree if someone’s throwing a pity party i agree remove the post, but if they a re just skiing a point? How is that woe is me?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:00 PM
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Feeling despair over how modern dating is for men is wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:55 PM
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Ah yes, looks don’t matter in dating. Thanks PPD and reddit, that means it must be true! Reddit is a shill for post modern feminism and is proactive against anything that might paint women in a bad light, we know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:12 PM
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There are a lot of people that don’t identity with black pill but hold a lot of black pill beliefs. Same with red pill. All the pills have done was give them a name.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:09 PM
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The fact that there are so many blk pillers shows you something is very wrong today with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:05 PM
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Not as much as you think. I know several people that do not know what black pilled is but in effect believe in most of the core tenets of it, and they are normal people who don’t live in a basement. Plenty of people are reasonable enough to enforce basic rules of civility that are conducive to a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:02 PM
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Okay, then enforce the rules? Don’t allow spiraling black pill. If a point is to be made, make it, the mods of this hypothetical sub don’t have to allow a black pill takeover. And doesn’t the fact that there are so many black pillars tell you how relevant it is to modern day dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:57 PM
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Subs that don’t devolve into threatening incel revolutions or violence won’t get banned. Explaining that looks are the primary factor in dating won’t get a in banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:48 PM
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The lookism and circle jerking rules are ridiculous and someone should start a sub where ALL aspects of dating are actually discussed. The arbitrary enforcement and non consistent application of the rules as well as shutting down various discussion that are extremely relevant to dating make the stated purpose of this sub at least partially untrue. Edit: Example A gentleman. Wtknight immediately removes any post/comments unfavorable to women. Go to the lasters post that was removed about the bar …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:43 PM
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Except you can’t claim you’re a sub to discuss dating dynamics while shutting down all discussion on the very significant role looks play. Disingenuous at best and pushing a narrative purposely at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:05 PM
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the ideas of black pill get discussed daily here, it’s just people don’t throw in the term “black pill” and no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:54 PM
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My dude, put on some more muscle and you’ll be fine. Your face is average not ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:17 AM
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Saying something is true is not akin to endorsing it nor advocating on its behalf, it’s merely an observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:15 AM
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No, not at all. We can analyze things objectively and say something’s are true based on objective evidence alone. Dating app studies largely will confirm at least some black pill views. If you are promoting something, you are actively saying it is the right way to view things, not that some parts of it are true. The concept of nuance is lost on both the mods and the people of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:09 AM
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I just want to ask, anyone else see the blatant censorship of anything the mods arbitrarily decide “support the black pill” to shut down any discussion they personally don’t like? Literally all i said is some black i pill points have merit and my comment and all of the discussion and engagement below it are deleted. We need more mods that are going to not be so biased and actually allow ALL dating dynamics in this sub. You can literally say an entire group of people are trash (men/women) but can…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:50 AM
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Oh hop off dude. I’m not promoting it, i’m saying some of its points have merit. Damn this place and its censorship is getting out of hand. I rarely complain about mods but some of the mods on this sub are actually ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:40 AM
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No i agree, i don’t think it’s misogyny as much as it’s self loathing and bitter resignation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:11 AM
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Black pill unfortunately does have some merit. It’s spoken about as some boogeyman, but a lot of the time these dudes aren’t even incels. They’ve actually just accepted dating is in effect over for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:48 PM
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I act like much more of an adult than you when you go on rants.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:45 PM
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Yes i called you out on what appeared to be an emotional tirade. Stop giving them the satisfaction of appearing to let them bother you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 12:28 PM
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Well abort them more like, but yeah, extremely brutal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:16 AM
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There’s more to life than women brother. If sex work alleviates the depths of your despair then i won’t say stop, but is it really over for you? You’ve exhausted all options for finding a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 12:03 AM
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i’m not here to be a red pill yes man dude lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 12:00 AM
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The fact that you think i’m trying appease butthurt women here is hilarious. Go through my comments bud lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:54 PM
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Oh i’m the furthest thing my guy. I don’t agree with most of the women on the sub. I’m frequently getting into it with them, i’m just not emotional about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:32 PM
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Yeah you sounded butthurt af, deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:11 PM
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I know that’s what a lot of women want to blame. I’ve never really lacked in any of those things other than confidence, but that was AFTER i realized women do not want me and probably never will. That is a disheartening thing to contend with when you do in fact want a relationship, but the only way forward is to accept that and try to move on the best you can. I’ve never said women should be with someone they don’t want to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:40 PM
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Women care about looks far, far more than they admit. That’s where watch what she does not what she’s says comes into play. That’s been the experience of many, many, average guys including myself. And before you presume i have some chip on my shoulder or i hate women, i don’t. i’ve accepted my situation and have largely given up on trying to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:32 PM
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Most guys aren’t fixated only on women that aren’t an option. It’s just that for average guys the vast majority of women aren’t an option anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:23 PM
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Men are much nicer in general to women because they seek and pursue relationships with them. A lot of you on here over estimate how many of us are going for very attractive women. Many guys here, myself included, would be more than happy with a girl that is looks matched with me. I don’t need a very conventionally attractive girlfriend, just a girl i find attractive and i’d like to spend my time and life with. Just reinforces the fact that human beings are abhorrent treating people better based …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:18 PM
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No. A decent man will not fuck you over. The nice guy trope is over played. Most men try to be decent guys and would likewise try to find decent women they can invest their time and energy into. Most guys would not hesitate to protect/defend their partner even at significant cost to them. The average decent guy who is actually nice does not want to “fuck women over”, that’s just a dishonest counter imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:06 PM
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Yet women continue dating people who mistreat them because “hawt”. Women are more open to sharing than most people on this sub think, they’d rather just not acknowledge what is actually going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:04 PM
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Brutal truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:02 PM
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No, bad men do that, just like bad women also do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:01 PM
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While this guy clearly sounds upset and is being a little too hostile, why would decent guys continue to be nice to people who show them nothing but scorn and make it clear they’d rather be with guys who treat them like garbage because they’re just more conventionally good looking? We’re not talking about basement dwelling neckbeards, we’re talking about average decent guys who there is nothing inherently wrong with. The only crime was being born with an average face. I don’t think many women re…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:00 PM
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They don’t think they’re owed anything. It’s just disheartening to see women that would rather be used and treated like yesterdays leftovers rather than be with someone who ISNT ugly, just chad but would be more than willing to treat them well and pour love and devotion into a relationship. At some point as one of these guys you have to look at it and say “no, no more. i don’t care anymore. i need to move past this”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:49 PM
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Conception is simply the process of a life being created. It’s a shame that many men will not get to experience life because women most men are not good enough for most women. It is indeed unfortunate to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:46 PM
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Just conception starts the process of creating a life. I’m not a hardcore pro life by any means, but there is without a doubt A difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:05 PM
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Because of the countless men that will never get to experience life before being aborted
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:53 PM
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That is extremely depressing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:05 PM
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So your issue with it is you believe comments like this are making more young men hate women on here?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:49 PM
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I’m trying to point out that we should not hate women or force them to be with women they don’t want to be with. That’s not the solution. I think modern dating is stacked against most men but the solution isn’t to force women to be with men. A lot of us do in fact wished we could have relationships with women but the only thing to do now is to move on and accept it’s not going to happen for a lot of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:48 PM
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I wasn’t talking to you, was I?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:37 PM
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We do work on ourselves. We just remain invisible. There not something wrong with most average guys. A lot of them are well adjusted, they just aren’t who women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:00 AM
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I get it, but so many men are hurt and upset on this sub. i don’t think they mean have the things they say. i get frustrated sometimes too, yet i still wish i was desirable enough to have a partner and don’t dislike women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:57 AM
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Okay well i don’t completely understand what you mean when you say “vulnerable” and How are we ever supposed to understand you if you don’t want to explain your perspective? isn’t that making it more of an echo chamber? I’m trying to engage with the women here, at least the ones who aren’t trying to kick men who are already down
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:36 AM
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I understand that. But that is NOT why most men fail at dating, it’s responsible for maybe a SMALL fraction. I’ve listed the reasons why most/average men fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:33 AM
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Yes, we know most men are unattractive to women. Trust me when i say the gym aspect doesn’t work, i know. I’m more fit than most guys. Dating doesn’t work in most guys favor. It’s not shameful to admit this isn’t a game that’s meant for most men these days and back out to preserve your own mental health and not be resentful and sad all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:32 AM
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I never said i look down on your perspective because you’re a woman. I’m here to engage in good faith debate, i won’t dismiss anything out of hand, but all i have to go on is what i’ve seen and experienced. I never said you were wrong or i didn’t believe that’s not how you are as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:29 AM
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In an age where most couples meet online, and third spaces to find new social circles is shrinking and more people would rather stay home, that’s easier said than done. I’ve been down this route, it involves either being very attractive, or very lucky. Usually a combination of both even.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:19 AM
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Yeah, and so are a lot of women. I don’t know why so many of you act like there’s something inherently wrong with the average man other than that not being what most women want. Most of us work, don’t live with our parents, aren’t obese, wash and brush our teeth. The truth is a lot of average men are currently, and will continue to get left behind because that is not what most women want now. That is fine, i’m not going to soapbox and shame women for their preferences, women can have whatever pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:16 AM
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Unfortunately dating is pretty much over for a lot of men. Women somewhat understandably only want the best looking men-which is not a lot of men- and if/when they can’t lock one of them down, the response to that differs. Some will share in hopes he will commit, some will remain single, some will eventually begrudgingly settle for average men. Just keep in mind there are more than a handful of hopeless young men on this sub and they are most likely here because they have failed at dating in som…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:13 AM
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I mean yes the way he said it was brash and not conducive to debating, but his general point is how a lot of men feel and observe, and of course Not all women do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:06 AM
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What does this even mean…? Expose themselves to what, women, their flaws? I’m not sure what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:05 AM
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I swear more and more of you just come on here to troll. No intention of having good faith arguments whatsoever. If you disagree with him why can you not point out why he is wrong to make your point? This is a debate forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:56 AM
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I’m sorry, but time and time again this is just shown as wrong. There is definitely something that makes a man a desirable partners to most modern day women, but it doesn’t not predominately have to do with either of those unfortunately. I wish it were true, i really do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:54 AM
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If what you say is true and assuming you aren’t lying, this is actually all the proof needed to show exactly why guys need to move on from women and figure out another way in life or they are going to give in to despair. I mean fuck, if women are okay with being a side piece rather than in a committed monogamous relationship with someone who cares and loves for them, honestly at that point more men need to just walk away or find a peaceful and passive way to sabotage that society however they ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:53 AM
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Okay, are you going to make an actual argument or…?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:49 AM
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See, the way humans evolved, looks really were not the most important thing for men, really probably not even women for the most part either. Humans have no adapted psychologically and biologically to societies where women no longer literally depend on men for their and their offspring’s survival. I think at the end of the day this has at least somewhat to do along with birth control why women simply don’t have kids as much either the more advanced an economy gets. The less a woman has to depend…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:49 AM
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More men are finally realizing most women despise most men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:45 AM
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Women are sharing men they wish they could have in relationships. Men are wishing they could have any relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:37 AM
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Part of is the fact that dating is over for a significant portion of men now. It’s extremely depressing and demoralizing to realize as an average guy myself, but i’m also interested to see how this is going to have an impact on a societal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:27 AM
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Choosing to share chad
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:25 AM
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Or they’re aware how bad it makes them look.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:24 AM
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Dating is pretty much over for a LOT of men. The psychological impacts on a societal level are just starting to be felt from this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:23 AM
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Right the average guy doesn’t shower or is completely unhygienic. It seriously feels like the women on here just come on here to troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:22 AM
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So many men are deep into despair. Some have even committed suicide over realizing how undesirable they are. Mating and belonging to a family unit are deep biological imperatives. It does serious damage to the psyche when you are effectively locked out of this. We evolved for women to be dependent on men. Now that society has moved in a direct opposite way of this (i’m not saying this is good or bad, it’s just how it is) men have lost the primary reason they were attractive to partners. Now that…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:21 AM
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The divorce rate isn’t “way down”. Most women are objectively average as are most men. Those are some serious mental gymnastics to make it sound reasonable that women don’t have to settle for anybody but chad. Also amusing how you paint average men as “losers”. They seem to be fine enough once a woman decides she wouldn’t mind average joe now (we’re talking about an average woman) that she wants a family. Regardless, i encourage men to let go of the bitterness and sadness that comes with trying …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 08:05 PM
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That’s wasn’t the point, apparently it flew over your head. Yes it’s their off spring. When a woman decides she wants a family and stability, she begrudgingly steles for average joe 4-6/10 and then will divorce rape him/cheat on him whenever it suits her once she has gotten what she wanted. Stability will keep coming in the form of alimony babyyyy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:53 PM
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Yup that’s it. Notice if you go through my comments i’m still being ridiculed for saying men should walk a way from dating even though i thought that’s what they wanted. Men who are not uber desirable taking themselves out of the dating pool is advice i see spouted by women here all the time, now that a man is saying it all of the sudden it’s defeatism, suicide fuel, sociopathic etc
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:41 PM
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We live in a gynocentric society. Society needs to cater to the whims and movements of women. I literally got called a sociopath because i said men should both drop out of dating and advocate that their tax dollars be used to fund programs and initiatives that only help women. Unless there was a reasonable opt out option towards what you want your tax dollars to go to (never will be) they need to vote for candidates that refuse to fund these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:37 PM
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It seems more men here are like minded than i first thought. I am glad there are those lurking that don’t fall for TRP or blue pill bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:35 PM
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You know nothing about the men here. You’re just projecting a narrative you’ve already made in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:28 PM
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Yes, call my paragraphs nonsense without giving any substantial argument, fantastic. I’ve laid out my reasoning and arguements in a profoundly reasonable way. Feel free to refute them if you’d like, but just saying they’re “nonsense” makes you look lazy and like you cant actually refute them. So essentially you’re calling me abhorrent, and devoid of empathy and humanity because you don’t agree with me, riiiight.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:26 PM
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They care about themselves and their off spring. As soon as they can split from the man at cost to him she probably will. She got the family and stability she wanted, now time to have more fun on his dime.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:21 PM
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Dating is irreversibly damaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:18 PM
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Enjoy your copium sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:17 PM
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They would love to turn this space into another TwoX. They were never here to debate anything, that much is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:16 PM
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No, we don’t need to be better men about this. We need to be better men for ourselves. Women need not play a role in this. More men will benefit from checkin out of dating and fulfilling their lives in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:14 PM
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It’s not just perpetually online dudes that struggle with dating, but i get it, you desperately love to cling to your just world.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:12 PM
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That would be you, m’lady. I have quite a bit of empathy and have laid out my arguments with thoughtful reason. I’ve never hated on women in this sub or tried to dictate who they should or shouldn’t be attracted to/date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:06 PM
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That’s exactly what you say women should do. You endorse the extremely entitled and selfish behavior from women. I agree with you, most men will be better off quitting trying to date and letting women share chad. What most men attempt to deal with when trying to date now is akin to insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:05 PM
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This is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:03 PM
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Does anyone even reply to you anymore? I feel like at this point everyone knows you are a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:03 PM
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No, i don’t think men need women that badly anymore. They have been taught to think they need women. Like anything, with the proper role models and societal shifts, this can and evidently is changing, as more men are starting to see what a raw deal this is and opt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:02 PM
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There’s plenty of men who just share their observations about women in general. Not even talking about specific women, just how the game is what their anecdotes are, and then they get personally attacked and called an incel. Literally most women on this sub are married or in relationships by their own admission, i’ve seen few that come to debate in good faith. They just have disdain for all men who dare speak against what they view as hypocrisy and say anything that is perceived as unfavorable t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:00 PM
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No, it does not make me a sociopath whatsoever. I’ve repeated numerous times you go for who you want. I’m saying the exact opposite of “force women to be with men they don’t want to be with” or better yet “women need to change their attitudes” where have i said that at all? can you quote me please? It’s perfectly reasonable not to want to subsidize women in a society where you are deemed undesirable by them and in turn have decided to cut women and aging out of your life. Men should not be respo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:41 PM
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Example A.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:32 PM
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Agree. They always respond to this with B B But they deserve it! Literally almost all of the women on here are in relationships or married (so they claim) and sole purpose is to shit on men who struggle dating and tell them they deserve it and it’s obviously because they’re terrible people. Even the ones that will admit dating is pretty much all looks have a “i only like chads and there’s nothing you can do about it so shut the fuck up incel” attitude and talk about how men think they are entitl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:31 PM
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It is a shame. Men are taught from a young age women are the end all be all really. It’s quite sad and pathetic. There is no reason for this when this doesn’t have to be how one has to live. Unfortunately, a lot of men have a lot of internalized misandrist and willfully go along with the priorities set in our gynocentric society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:59 PM
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I was despair pilled. I’ve moved past it to fulfill my life with other things. The data shows more and more men being considered undesirable and voluntarily checking out of dating. A lot of these men would like healthy relationships, but they aren’t, and will not be a chad able to pull at will and have to suffer from an abundance of rejection and a drop in their self worth upon realizing that women do not find him good enough for sex/a relationship. This is where my thinking with the RP splits. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:58 PM
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Thank you, it’s such a stupid leap of logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:54 PM
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Yeah, myself and many men who struggle with it. What exactly was the point of your comment again?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:51 PM
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You make several great points. I’ll just add this myself. Numerous women here even admit the majority of men aren’t attractive and they are so glad they don’t need to be with men whom they find undesirable (apparently the vast majority of men) and tell me to deal with it they’re not entitled to sex and relationships and they can’t force women to be with men they don’t want to be with. When i say okay… i agree, don’t be with someone you don’t want to be with and say men aren’t entitled to anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:51 PM
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you mean my flair? i mean it is partly a joke but partly because i empathize with the men in these situations because i’ve been there and know how disheartening it can be. Your attempt to mock me doesn’t carry much weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:20 PM
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I believe the hypergamy of women and their preference to be single than to be with >80% of men is becoming more and more apparent to a lot of men. But believe what you will, i don’t think either of us will change our minds here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:03 PM
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See, why are you saying what i’m saying is suicidal fuel? How? I know a LOT of men whose self worth has been destroyed by trying to date because they are just “average” men that women don’t find particularly appealing, like myself. How is trying to accept one’s situation and come to peace that this is how the dating market is and letting go of the frustration and sadness that comes with being undesired? Like i legitimately don’t get it and i’ve asked you to explain this so many times but you’d r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:59 PM
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Many Women come on here to shit on men who struggle dating because apparently it makes them feel better about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:55 PM
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This is what I don’t get. Why is men they don’t want in the first place (let’s be honest most men) disengaging from women and dating so offensive to them? It makes no sense. How is advocating for men to replace women being the center of their lives to something that doesn’t depend on another human being a suicide mission. Just makes zero sense. I’ve tried debating her in good faith but she just isn’t interested, clearly i’ve offended her in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:52 PM
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Yup because you don’t agree with it, it has flaws. If you’re not lazy you can look up other studies that show more men are voluntarily leaving the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:45 PM
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And yet, you say i’m wrong for my views when i say if the majority of men who are not attractive to most women give up on this pointless pursuit of women. Maybe they’ll get a woman that will begrudgingly settle for him once she wants a family and stability and weaponize sex because she’s not viscerally attracted to the guys she can land for an actual relationship other than just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:44 PM
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It is actually important they do give up when playing this game comes at a greater cost than the potential benefits, which is becoming the case for more and more men. I don’t know if you’re a guy, but if you are, we don’t need a woman brother. There are other ways and other things in life that can allow us to ascend beyond a simple biological urge to chase women and become truly great men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:42 PM
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This is the correct attitude more men need to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:39 PM
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More men are opting out. https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2023/02/13/for-valentines-day-5-survey-findings-about-singles-from-pew-research/?sh=3d0bd35b288e I don’t expect you to being open to changing your mind however, so i’m okay with leaving it there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:04 PM
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Some of them actually admit the dating market is well against men today, but even then, the typical addition after that is “oh well, deal with it”. Or you know, we could could just walk away and not deal with any of it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:02 PM
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Suicide mission? What are you talking about? You are the one refusing to engage with me, i’m arguing in good faith unlike many people here. I’ve come here to engage with both men and women in a debate forum. Is there something so egregious i’ve said?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:59 PM
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And i’m getting such pushback on here from the women in this sub. I thought that is what they wanted? It’s the opposite of wanting to force women to be with men they don’t want to be with or entitled to women. Why is walking away to preserve our mental health while advocating for our resources not to be used towards said individuals who find us so desirable something that’s so bad? Makes zero sense. Seems like they will disagree with men no matter what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:57 PM
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I agree with you. They should. They don’t need women in their lives and they can find a purpose beyond dating. There is no need to play a game that devalues men to the degree it has. Sexual urges can be filled in other ways, and connection with their fellow men can do more than most of the men here think it can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:55 PM
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More men are walking away and more men are involuntarily celibate. More men struggle to date, i mean at this point it’s well known and is what the data points to. The younger generations are the ones experiencing the brunt of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:54 PM
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I’m not associated with a pill. You want to block me when i’m arguing in good faith? Seems par for the course here unfortunately. How am i “defeatist”? Seriously what about what i’m saying is defeatist? This isn’t “woe is me” or self pity at all. Nothing i am saying is. I don’t know why women here keep saying that. In fact, most of the women here finally are finally beginning to admit really only a small amount of men are ever going to be attractive, and it usually is the men most of the other w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:51 PM
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Or just walk away and not play a game that’s not meant for most men like i’ve been saying. This never seems to be brought up as a potentially best option for a lot of men, when it realistically is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:45 PM
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I both agree and disagree to en extent. A lot of men pedastalize women and make them out to be more than human and create ideal scenarios about these women. It’s not healthy and really should stop. At the same time the onus is still usually on men to approach and create conditions that allow for romantic connections. We are the ones reaching out and for the most part playing by the rules that women create. I’m not going to whine about how’s it not fair, even if it is true to an extent. Instead m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:44 PM
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Unfortunately some of the women here are down right malicious. It’s as disheartening as it is pathetic. There are some women here that engage and good faith and i sincerely thank them. It seems like most of them just like belittling and talking down to men who struggle with dating to make them feel better about themselves, I hope guys here don’t take it to heart too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:41 PM
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I said self improvement for oneself is worth it. Doing it to impress women and find a partner only brings disappointment. I’ve accepted my fate as average guy, i just wish more men would to preserve their mental health. I’ve accepted not being good enough, i’m not angry at women for it anymore, nor do i feel any sort of bitterness. No one should live their lives like that holding on to that constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:26 PM
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No, i’m willing to engage with you in good faith. I’m here to talk and debate with others, i don’t mind hearing women’s perspective on it. As i’ve said so many times on here, i don’t hate women at all. That has nothing to do with it. The “despair pill” flair is really a joke but also showing i know what it’s like to hold on to that frustration and sadness that comes with being an average guy. I’m by no means ugly, i’m somewhat tall, in really good shape, but trying to date destroyed my mental he…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:54 PM
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Already replied to someone else, but i’ll give a short version. Walking away from dating altogether and advocating that their tax dollars are not used to fund causes that only affect/address women’s issues while also voting for candidates antagonistic towards women’s movements. You thought you were gonna get me there didn’t ya? No, this has nothing to do with enslaving or forcing themselves on women. I know all of you like to assume that’s what we talk about when we say we need to do what’s best…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:41 PM
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Ah see, but if more men joined a movement that advocated not sending their tax dollars to movements that only helps women they would shriek about it. They can fund their own programs. Women’s causes are not public goods in the same way roads or a police force is. Why should these apparently “undesirable men” (most men) duly accept that situation? No, that would not be in their best interest m8.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:38 PM
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Perhaps. The fact is many men were culled in wars throughout history. It wasn’t enforced monogamy as much as it was there were less men to pick from, so that alone made relationships and marriage more in men’s favor. I love when women here go on about women picking the best men and now that they can those genetics will be passed on, i’m just like, before you couldn’t pick the genetically best men because a lot of them died in wars, and define “best” anyway. Having an attractive face might ensure…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:36 PM
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I just don’t see paying for fake interaction with women you’ll never meet is going to survive AI getting more and more advanced and having hyper realistic conversations and being able to create any fantasy a man desires to watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:32 PM
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You still get treated like children, you just subject yourselves to it voluntarily now for certain men. The ultimate irony. Yet most women were not killed, and what you would define as abuse we have no way of knowing if 1000 years ago that’s true or not. Life sucked for everyone, not just women. Stop trying to turn it around and expect sympathy for women when none is given for men, that’s nonsensical. No, you can go around chasing whoever you want, just stop complaining about getting used and ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:30 PM
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Yes on you go about what men don’t deserve. Here, i’ll give you a little information you may not understand because you think the men on this sub are real life, men shockingly do not believe they are entitled to sex or relationships. Pointing out women’s delusional standards and hypocrisy does not mean they believe they are entitled to anything. It is simple, if a man busts his ass in the gym and is in very good shape, most likely he won’t not care to go for a woman who is obese. You can argue o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:25 PM
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It is pretty sad to see so many men feel left behind and lonely and isolated and some even turning to self deletion. I don’t want any more young men to kill themselves. That’s exactly what i’m saying, if more men put an emphasis on other reasons for living and forming more connections with their fellow men they’ll see they don’t need a woman. Unfortunately society does not give a lot of good role models of boys and men and there is little to not emphasis put on male brotherhood and solidarity, u…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:09 AM
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Actually they are. Studies have in fact shown more men are single and not looking to date. The handful of men in this sub do not represent reality. To be honest i could say the same thing with the women on this sub, starting with you. All you do is come on here to spew vitriol and bitterness towards men, no better than the men on here you hate. Sounds like you place way too much worth on women. Men are finally realizing they in fact do not need women, and prostitution, AI porn, escorting will fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:01 AM
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Not at all. This is not bitching whatsoever. This is logical reasoning for why men should be leaving the dating market for their own well being. I know logic and reasoning probably go over your head so no worries if you don’t understand. I’m not obsessing over your dating habits at all, if i was, i would be telling you why YOU need to change your dating habits. I am not doing that, i am saying MEN should change their dating habits. Also, this is a debate forum, not sure exactly if you know what …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:52 AM
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One, untrue. I do no shame men who are growing and self improving. On the contrary, if you look at several of my posts i have said men should self improve, but not for women, for themselves. Men should seek to become the best men they can be, for themselves not because they want to attract women. Work hard and make something for yourself, and part of that self improvement for many men, is taking care of their mental health by not feeling worthless by trying to participate in modern dating (obvio…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:44 AM
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Firstly, one anecdote on reddit changes literally nothing. Your attempts to make it sound trivial as if men just want to sit there and be assigned a wife is so disingenuous and bad faith it’s frankly ridiculous. I’m not talking about men who sit inside their houses and sulk like losers, i’m talking about the very real experiences of many men running the self improvement tread mill trying desperately to be good enough and attractive to a woman to find a relationship, but lo and behold, since he w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:40 AM
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Get lost, you are the one that initially responded to me. Men get the raw deal in dating and we simply don’t have to play by their rules or dance to the tune they set. More men need to understand they do not need women and can live fulfilling lives without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:34 AM
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Nor do we feel sorry for any of you. I assure you, the entitlement rests with the females of this equation. Thankfully, more women are making their misandry open for men to see. It just further pushes the point home that they need to leave this toxic game and entitled women behind for good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:31 AM
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Difference of opinion I suppose. More men need to wake up and voluntarily leave something that is not a good deal for the average man, pendulum be damned. At some point the pendulum does start to swing back and equalize in mid to late 30s, but at that point there is really no point to accept such a bad deal at that stage of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:27 AM
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Not at all. Very strange comment. I want more men to find peace and prioritize their well being over women. Even the women here acknowledge they don’t find most men attractive. There’s plenty of evidence now that most women do not find most men attractive. Very odd that me arguing men should opt out of a market that is very unfavorable to them and find peace in other things amounts to me hating men, but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:25 AM
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No discussions are being stopped here. I actually have debated in good faith quite a bit and get only anger and bitterness in the replies to me. Arguing that plenty of men’s best choice is to walk away from this is a reasonable argument not one woman or blue pilled has yet to truly say why that’s bad or not something that makes sense. Also, i highly doubt you actually know what the black pill is, it’s just a boogeyman to you. I don’t identify with any pill, otherwise i would’ve put it in my flai…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:16 AM
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Yes, just the response and vitriol to saying that more men should not participate in a game that the costs to their mental health and wellbeing are greater than the payoff is telling. Thankfully, more men are realizing this and figuring out the juice isn’t worth the squeeze and voluntarily leaving the dating market. That’ll only climb as women get more and more picky. You’re allowed to have whatever standards you want, i did not imply anything otherwise. You guys always go to “wE dOnT HaVe tO Da…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:11 AM
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That was good you got rid of that last part. Your narcissism was showing through full force in that one. You live in your fantasy cope land where you believe you’re entitled to greatness, you are not. Men are the ones that live in reality and thankfully are coming to terms with what women are really like when there is little consequences or accountability for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:42 AM
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Yes most of us are now aware of the reality of how women act despite what they say. Not gonna settle for anything less than chad because that’s what she deserves. No, no more. More and more men are coming to the logical conclusion that this is simply a game now that is no longer worth playing. Why play by the rules of a game that disadvantage you? That is the illogical course of action. For a few men they can clean up and women will thirst over them, they can share them. More men hopefully are f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:39 AM
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Oh i’m not whining whatsoever. The pendulum has swung far to the other side. Just like women apparently shouldn’t tolerate unfair dynamics, neither should men. It has nothing to do with whining, unlike white knights like you, men that choose to walk away and stop caring about women and dating are the most grown and mature. There are ways to satisfy sexual urges, and pedastalizing women and making them the center of men’s life is clearly not a good option for a majority of men. Walking away from …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:35 AM
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Not particularly sensitive. Just am going to follow the rules of this sub. I’m not insulting you as the probability a HVM will commit to you is somewhat low in general. Has nothing to do with you personally, they just have too many options. It is amusing to see how much of a misandrist you are though, who hurt you? 😳
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:32 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:30 AM
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Oh okay sorry. 85% “aren’t good enough for women to date them”. Sounds a whole lot better doesn’t it? I’m glad more men are prioritizing their mental health and walking away from this insanity and disengaging from women and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:30 AM
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I don’t suck that much at dating. Stats show that apparently a large number of men suck at dating if that’s the case. Nah, i know you love to white knight but the small minority of men like you fortunately won’t change the fact that RP and manosphere content and even just tiktok content is making more and more men realize they should just walk away from the insanity that is modern day dating for very many men. Men do not inherently need to chase and make women the center of their lives, and that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:28 AM
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That is the reality. hypergamy never fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:24 AM
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Quite a few men are becoming aware of this reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:23 AM
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Wouldn’t know, i’m not an incel, i’ve slept with a fair amount of women. i’ve voluntarily left dating as i don’t find it worth the trouble anymore, although i still occasionally hookup. also i’m gonna have to report you for that personal attack, i’m sure you understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:22 AM
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I’m not glorifying anything. That is how almost ALL societies operated until the 20th century. And the domestic slave bit is way over played. Second class citizens to a degree i would agree. It doesn’t matter it’s not fair does it? It’s not fair to men now and that doesn’t matter does it? Like will never be fair, men need to do what’s in their own best interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:15 AM
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It’s the case of another man thinking he can be honest with women he’s romantically pursuing. Some take longer to learn this lesson, but i am somewhat concerned for OP that he’s in his mid 20s and thinks that saying something like that would not be a turn off for women…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:12 AM
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“Fellas, is women thinking 85% of men are beneath her bad?” I’m guessing most of them would say it’s at least stupid as fuck, but they can share chad while more men would rather just leave the dating market altogether than get begrudgingly settled for once a woman wants a family and stability lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:06 AM
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Username checks out. A lot of high tier men probably wouldn’t commit to you anyway, so don’t worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:04 AM
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Funny how for almost all of human existence enforced monogamy and controlling hypergamous female nature was always a consistent theme. They never have an honest answer for why this is other than “patriarchy”. The real answer is almost every single society in the past understood that a society without enforced monogamy will eventually become unstable. I agree male frustration and losers complaining about it online won’t change anything, but this issue is not going away and political extremism and…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:02 AM
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So keep that same energy when men do what’s best for them, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:04 AM
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Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:30 PM
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Attractiveness is looks. It’s not nonsense at all lmao. I’ve made several relevant points.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:46 PM
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I’m trying to help other men to realize there is another option other than being treated like this in the dating market, and that’s to walk away from it. No reason most men have to put themselves through this when women have made it clear they’d rather get used than to be with someone who isn’t in the top echelons of attractiveness. Plus, this is a debate forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:09 PM
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So you’re going to be treated like an “average” in a relationship with a girl who supposedly loves you. No wonder why more men are opting out of this, this is how women think gentlemen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:03 PM
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This is an excellent post. I truly believe the entitlement the women on here always screech about that men have is actually much more prominent in women. They think they have more inherent value than men because men are horny and want to fuck, and maybe in a way, that’s true. But they are always the ones saying it’s not a privilege to be used as a sex object so that agreement kind of goes right out the window then. The reality is because of how stacked against men the dating market is it feeds i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:58 PM
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Since most men do not fit that definition they’d be doing themselves a favor of leaving women alone and not dealing with the whole “breaking rules” hypocrisy that many men by now know is real. There’s no reason to constantly subject yourselves to the whim of this bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:50 PM
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Yes we know women’s delusional entitlement to a top 5-10% has been getting more and more prominent. What i have been saying all along while the dating market is very titled against and unfair to men, this is okay long run. It will be a long and painful process but men discovering their own inherent value that is separate from that of a woman and they do not need women in their lives as romantic partners is good for a lot of men. Some men will lose all drive (which we are seeing with more men not…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:46 PM
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They blame a dating market that is not in most men’s favor, and that is not unreasonable at all. You think that’s what they deserve, fortunately not so many people are full of contempt and disdain for average men like you have. It’s not entitled to point out that a broken system that is not working for most men is not a system most men benefit from being in. Hence I go back to my original point when you decided to comment on my post that you should have no issue with what i am saying. Walking aw…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:05 PM
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I didn’t say it was something be proud of, i said that’s just what’s happening, it’s a natural reaction. All of you freely bash “undesirable men” (most men apparently) for being entitled (most aren’t) when you never say what they’re actually supposed to do. Just accept their fate with glee that they’ve been shut out of the dating market and not do what’s in their best interest like women who chase chad do?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:54 PM
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Yes men do have it worse and most of us are considered un desirable. Yes we know women don’t care about men, i’m just saying in turn men should not care about women or their issues in society. This is why i said more men need to walk a way from something that is not working for them. The modern day dating system breeds resentment and depression in men and makes them feel worthless. More men need to find other purposes outside of women to fulfill their lives and to preserve their mental health li…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:59 AM
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Toxic social media? Everything you just said was toxic as fuck. You basically admitted non chads are irrelevant and average guys don’t matter. I am saying to these men, why would you want to subject yourself to this? Women care of nothing but want benefits them, think of no one but themselves and evidently would rather literally be used by chads than give the average guy a chance, what about that is not “toxic” to you? Ridiculous. More men need to realize this is a losing game and walk.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:34 AM
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I’m no a monster at all, i don’t fail with women at all. I’ve walked away from dating. I’m not a monster because i’m advocating on behalf of men. Get a grip, you’re delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:18 AM
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Right, whatever you say bro, i don’t care. Men don’t need to support things that are fair if they are told “deal with it life’s not fair”. Imagine thinking men should just be okay with that and accept that with glee, nah, most of us are good. You are either the ultimate white knight or are a woman larping.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:11 AM
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Yes you’ve already made it abundantly clear they care they care an out nobody but themselves, so we shouldn’t either. This is why more men need to step away from this toxic bullshit and ask themselves if they want to keep subjecting themselves to this level of anguish and disrespect. It’s no longer worth it, and more men are seeing that thankfully and taking the first step of waking away to preserve their own mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:10 AM
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Okay so you decide who deserves what, got it. Nah, they don’t deserve anything just because women decided only want 10-15% of men. Yeah being unlucky enough to not be born attractive is such a sin. How dare they be upset that the dating market is stacked against most men, how terrible! But i agree anger is not the way, we should not care what women think and simply leave them alone. I’ve stopped trying to date so that’s completely irrelevant. I know it’s a typical female tactic to shame men who …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:03 AM
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Yes you come on here in your free time to make fun of men that struggle to date, clearly projecting how great of a person you are. Vagueness about what exactly? You were the one who replied to me initially in case you forgot, i don’t care if you care or not. Most of my replies aren’t meant for you. I’m not whining whatsoever, that’s your projection. I’m telling men that they don’t need to play a game that doesn’t benefit them to play. That’s not complaining and that’s not woe is me. you’re liter…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:42 PM
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You project bitterness lmao. I’m up and down this thread while i relax during my free time today. I’m sending a message that women like you are exactly why men would be better off not dating, they’ll be much happier. where am i “woe is meing” huh? for saying obvious truths? You even agree with me, most men do not want most women and most men should leave the dating market and they’ll be better off. it’s fine when you say but when i say it it’s woe is me? odd… Yes i’ve felt the despair of trying …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:31 PM
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I do have a case. Society caters to women’s issues and problems all the time. Their reproductive issues, career issues, social issues. I just don’t feel like arguing with people who are going to ignore an obvious truth because they benefit from it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:27 PM
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You seem like a bitter and miserable person in general tbh. And that’s great, once again i don’t care about your life or what the intentions of a no body in the internet are :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:23 PM
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I figured this is what you were doing. Always has to have the last word, truly toxic. Stop obsessing over me and get lost. You too have amused me with your childish entitled behavior. Not having a meltdown, you sound bitter af rn. I am not concerned in the slightest with your life, just figured you’d have better things to do like you said, guess you don’t after all 😳 you are projecting hella bitterness and i find it hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:16 PM
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You are in fact a nobody. Yet instead of spending time with your “boyfriend” you continue to rage post, it’s quite amusing. Yes, get what you deserve as well 🤡😘
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:10 PM
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Sure buddy, whatever you say. Not going to argue with someone who has no intention of being open to changing their mind. get lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:07 PM
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I’m not trying to punish anyone. i’m saying men should what’s in their own best interests. Congrats? I don’t care… what you do, again you’re a nobody, but the more you reply the more the other men on this sub can see the spoiled entitled thoughts of the women on here! i truly do not care about your dating life at all, i can assure you. Here i’ll take a page from your playbook I…Do…Not…Care 😂🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:06 PM
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You sound like the bitter one lmao. Nope life isn’t fair remember. men have no obligation to help or support women, you can stay mad about it… I’m not projecting anything? you’re a no body, i don’t care if you mock me, you are not my target audience, but your behavior is helping to prove my point to other men on this sub about female entitlement and disdain for men, which is good. the more men that opt out of a game that is inherently stacked against them, the more men that are able to find peac…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:59 PM
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No, i promise you. women are the ones who think too highly of themselves, that is the exact toxic behavior men need to get away from, they will be so much better off for it. while also advocating for reducing affirmative action for women, gov funding for Planned parenthood, and prevent their tax dollars to be funneled towards programs that by large only benefit women. no more welfare just because they are single moms, life isn’t fair! gonna keep copying what im saying too? how pathetic and child…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:51 PM
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I’m not trying to “stick it to women”. I’m saying men should de center women from their lives and walk away from dating. The juice is no longer worth the squeeze for most men and watching it make mainstream news how men are increasingly not looking to date and opting out is hilarious. I know you guys love to pretend these guys are all basement dwelling neckbesrds for the sake of your argument, i promise you we are not. we are men that have had enough of society telling us to center women in our …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:45 PM
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Uh, yes? if most men aren’t good enough for dating why in the world would continue to subject ourselves to women’s whims? No, they disengage from dating and women and their problems/issues. Life’s not fair right?oh right that only applies to men when the unfairness benefits women. in all other cases we need to make things fair. that sounds like illogical thing to me, so no, my position is not in anyway illogical. it’s in the majority of “too average to be desirable” men’s best interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:37 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:21 PM
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Time to walk away from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:13 PM
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Looksmaxxing indeed can put some men in that desirable category, but not most. The self improvement hamster wheel should be for themselves. Women will never care unless you cross over that threshold that makes you a desirable man, which most men can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:07 PM
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Y-You’re a misogynist! You HAVE to be nice to women! NO WE WONT SLEEP WITH YOU JUST BECAUSE YOUR NICE THOUGH. They’re fucking delusional if they think the majority of men seriously think being nice gets them laid. Funny for how certain men being nice or not is completely irrelevant 🤔 Keep waking up to the fact that the rules they set for you are the rules they’ll break for chad, then ask yourselves if you want to be with a woman who does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:04 PM
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What’s with the sudden onslaught of these kinds of posts. Stg i’ve seen basically the same post like 4 times in 2 days now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:01 PM
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Unattractiveness is not the same in men compared to women. That is the reality. Men face a bleak existence in the dating world. More and more of us are completely locked out of dating, even unattractive women have plenty of options. Men have nothing. Society has pampered women and taken their issues seriously, men are told to just sack up. I just think it is no longer necessary for most of us to suffer through this and anguish in this dating market. We need to leave it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:33 PM
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If you’re really going to play this ignorant i don’t see how anything i say to you will get my point across to you, so this co versatile is pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:25 PM
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Okay so men should leave the dating market if they’re not chad and dis engage from women and dating. I agree. Women have nothing business disdain for non chad men. women are completely hypocritical. enjoy sharing chad, the rest of us will find our own way because we don’t want to be treated as worthless because we weren’t born with the right features. You’re all ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:55 PM
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OH okay the onus on those men to act better, not women stop only chad in those men. Got it. Women would rather have a system where they share only the top men than be with even a guy in her one looks match. That’s not fair to men either, why should we want to be in a dating market like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:48 PM
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This is what they want to pretend isn’t true. Guys are becoming more and more aware of this though, thank god.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:25 PM
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Wow, could not have said it better myself. Seems like i’m not the only one here saying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:23 PM
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Chad is not going to commit. And you’re ironically showing why more men need to walk away from dating altogether as this what women truly think. Disgusting behavior. Men need to stop participating in a society where this behavior is common place among women and they all get ran through by chad and think they are more valuable than their looks match.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:21 PM
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I know i’m right. I’m proof of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:09 PM
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Yes. And more men would benefit from this as well. Stop playing a rigged game. There’s no reason to deal with the frustration and anger that comes with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:04 PM
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Already have. Not wasting anymore of my time. I’m telling other men they should stop bashing their heads against the wall and stop wasting theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:58 PM
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No. No more. What men need is not becoming more selective, it’s to walk away from a rigged game, not “try harder”, or “become more picky”. Not much men do will ever make them attractive enough for most women. Time to cash and cut the losses. Hard to have self worth when you’re playing a game that shows you how worthless you are constantly. Who the fuck want to keep playing a game like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:53 PM
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What are you talking about? I don’t think i’ve disagreed with anything you’ve said?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:51 PM
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Affirmative actions and women demanding society mobilizes to fix their problem is not equal opportunity. More and more men are starting to drop out of the dating market thankfully and finding their own way and seeing women are not more valuable than them and they don’t need a woman. AI created porn is just around the corner to fill in the gaps of sexual urges, and prostitution inevitably being legalized or even “escorting” will also help to solve the sex issue. More and more men are realizing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:43 PM
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Don’t hate the player, just stop playing the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:35 PM
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More and more men and struggling to date. Men that are in happy relationships with women should not leave. They do need to take note if they were settled for by a woman in her mid to late 30s because she wants a family and stability now, and not hesitate to cut the relationship/marriage off if he’s not satisfied with this arrangement. Instead of being angry and depressed about women’s hypergamy and insane attitudes about only wanting a minority of HVM, they should make their own way and find the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:34 PM
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I’m on here trying to show men the hypocrisy of women and why they should and need to walk away. One this is a debate forum, i’ve checked out of dating, and two, there’s plenty of frustrated men who derive their self worth from women when they need to realize women are not inherently more valuable than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:31 PM
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You’re the ridiculous one, women are by far the net recipient of tax dollars and men are the net contributors. You’re only concerned about “fair” when it comes to women. For men, they get the old “life’s not fair, deal with it”. Nah, men shouldn’t subject themselves to that in a gynocentric society. They need to stop dating, get away from women and stop centering them in their lives. Only way to win an unfair game is to not play. Or in women’s case, bitch and moan so much that society does somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:30 PM
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And why should men continue to suffer this current system, hm? Guess we should all just do what’s best for ourselves. Men need to disengage from women and not worry about them or worry about helping women at all. It’s not fair for most men right now and you’re okay with that, but you want everything to be fair when it concerns women. Just goes to show women only care about “fair” when it affects them. Also i love how women always say this and act like there was never consequences for doing any o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:26 PM
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Okay if you want to use the >1% of planned parenthood’s resources that go towards this, if that is your argument i’ll just take that as you agree with me and not waste anymore of my time. That is fine if the tiny fraction of that also goes away as well. These men can pay for these services themselves like most already do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:24 PM
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Okay, looks like we are in agreement. I’m glad we could come to an understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:21 PM
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Men contribute the majority of the tax revenue of the US. I don’t care what men who choose to get women pregnant want, if they want one they can pay for one, themselves. Life’s not fair babyyyyy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:21 PM
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Nope, just no funding things that’s specifically even for women, like how it you know, already is for men. Men who pay taxes to fund the common services and goods EVERYONE uses, not just women, should not have to fund abortions or solutions to women’s problems in society. why should men vote for candidates who are going to push a pro woman narrative or affirmative action programs that come at the expense of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:17 PM
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Affirmative action, money for women’s programs/movements, funding planned parenthood, welfare for single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:13 PM
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Not giving a woman affirmative action isn’t treating them badly. Life isn’t fair, women should not get help from society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:08 PM
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Thank god more men are waking up and relaxing they need to walk away from women. We just need to lobby for ourselves. The economy and job market does not need to be fair either. Women should not benefit from affirmative action programs at the expense of men. More politicians with these ideals will be voted in, aka Trump, what’s happening in Korea
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:08 PM
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Enforced monogamy existed for millennia for a reason. Now that the society we’re in favors women at the expense of men, men need to walk away and contribute to society as little as possible while creating their own path away from women and dating. No sympathy should be given to women if we’re gonna go down the free for all free markets principles in dating. The economy doesn’t need to be fair, the job market doesn’t need to be fair, women don’t need to be helped getting to leadership positions, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:06 PM
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I agree, I just don’t want my resources to be used for women’s issues in society as do many men who have disengaged from women and dating. We should have no responsibility to do so, there needs to be more lobbying to prevent this. That is exactly what i’m saying, play the cards your dealt by folding , walking away from the table, and cresting your own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:02 PM
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More men who aren’t at the top need to walk away and leave women alone. Find their own paths and fulfillment outside of women, while also advocating for society to not use their resources to fix women’s issues. There is absolutely zero reason men should engage in a dating market that treats them as worthless. Really even a society that does that is not worth contributing to, but seeing as most men dont have the ability to leave en masse they have to make do and find other purposes and disengage …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:01 PM
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As long as we apply that to women’s issues in society as well. They aren’t entitled to have society fix their problems or help them! 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:57 PM
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Okay, so long as we’re applying this to other social issues and things in society, particularly things that affect women, then i 100% i agree! I agree most men need to walk away from women and dating and find their own away.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:55 PM
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Oh actually Adolf Hitler had to keep Eva Braun from the public eye specifically because women fawned over him. Be needed to be the supreme leader and bachelor. Have you ever watched videos of hitler going the streets in a car and women absolutely losing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:54 PM
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It a system that existed for most of human history. We don’t need a fair anything else if dating isn’t fair either 🤷‍♂️ How is this even so bad? This is just the proof women want their cake and eat it too, everyone else be damned, unless we’re talking about issues that pertain to women in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:49 PM
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Darwinian even. I just had a mind numbing back and forth with a woman yesterday explaining why wanting to be respected and not be treated as a sex object is hypocritical if it’s okay if only some men do it to you, it is defeats the entire women are more than sex objects of they’ll literally allow themselves to be treated like a hole only for some men. I’m sure they’re not happy about it and would prefer to be with these men and they’ll get upset when he doesn’t want to commit, but they’ll accept…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:47 PM
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Exactly like women complaining about HVM using them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:44 PM
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Exactly this. I wish this was at the top. You only get the “life’s not fair, deal” response when someone is benefiting from said unfairness. But when it comes to something not being fair for women, all of society needs to mobilize to correct it and deal with it and “make it fair” be essentially discriminating (affirmative action) and taking resources from others to correct it. The let them eat cake attitude when it comes to men and dating is well known at this point. That’s why i tell men to jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:43 PM
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No, because dating is mainly based on looks, and women think they are entitled to HVM.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:36 PM
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Don’t even bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:33 PM
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Men who do not have this privilege should not be trying. It’s like trying to win a 400m race with 5 lb ankle weights on. Women will only approach men they find exceedingly attractive, and most women will not reciprocate the effort average men put in to court them, even if they themselves are average.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:32 PM
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They’ll never understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:29 PM
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Most men know dating is not fair now. You should all be thanking me for encouraging the type of men you hate so much (ie average guys) from exiting the dating market and leaving the pathetic rat race that is trying to chase women. Men can achieve much more unhindered by the shackles of centering women in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:01 PM
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Have you seen her other comments? Why bother engaging with her? She’s a troll and hates men, better off just not replying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:58 PM
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You are delusional. And yet when i say the opposite you pitch a fit and and cry about how i’m misogynistic too, can’t win!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:57 PM
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The just world fallacy never fails. It’s actually ironic because this whole post was about dating not being fair and the comments are already filled with just world fallacies out the ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:56 PM
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That’s because men who complain about dating are monsters, has nothing to do with looks, they just haven’t showered 15 times a day or used tactical soap bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:53 PM
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And hence gentleman, they prove the point of why i say to walk away from this. I’ll admit this sub isn’t reflective of women in real life generally, but this is how fairness is applied to you even IRL, and anyone who denies how stacked against most men the dating market is now is either delusional or has an agenda. Ever seen the straight darwinian arguments even the most blue pilled or liberal women on here will go to when it comes to dating? At some point if you didn’t luck out genetically or c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:49 PM
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You PPed out? Why do you pay a lot in taxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:28 PM
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I’m engaging in a debate and conversation in an anonymous forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:24 PM
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It’s like i told another guy on here. I don’t think there’s some grand conspiracy, but it certainly is better for society and the economy to keep men constantly working to impress and attract mates. As is often pointed out, if more men were just content with their lives, economic output would drop dramatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:23 PM
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No, i said men should stay away from women because this dsting game is no longer worth playing for most men. Oh i do, i’ve accepted my reality. i’m not on here preaching something that hasn’t worked for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:14 PM
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That is a sad existence. No, not all men have vanishingly small will power like you. The juice is no longer worth the squeeze and thankfully more men are waking up to this fact. They don’t need to prostrate themselves and lose dignity desperately and pathetically chasing women, that is a sad existence. Thankfully, women themselves are speeding up this process as they continually chase after only the most desirable men and even after getting burned again and again will not adjust to find someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:12 PM
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I agree. Prostitution needs to be legalized and more emphasis on male brotherhood needs to be present in society. With these two things, i believe more men would be willing to walk away from a rigged game and stop acting like women are inherently more valuable. It’s not worth it anymore for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:06 PM
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You’re now arguing in and faith. You know what i meant, i was talking about relationships but you choose to ignore that for the sake of your argument. At no point did i refer to women as objects so try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:48 PM
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Yeah, i don’t think at that point it’s on men when 75% of them need to be making up for “not being as attractive”. Sounds to me women just all are entitled to have to most “hawt” men. And we all know about the rules for joe but not chad, now, thank god.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:34 PM
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Yes most men get the consolation prize of being the “next best option” after the woman they were with was chasing the small minority of guys they find attractive. Even now that’s becoming apparent more women won’t even settle for that. More and more men will become sexless and relationship less. Walking away is the only answer
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:14 PM
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I’m not salty or bitter. Why should most men who aren’t “hot” (most men) enough for women to talk about them like this play this game? At what point does this not become worth it? I think for most we are well past that point and women need to be de centered from our lives. Find another reason to live and disengage from dating and leave women alone, they only thing it brings most men is destroying their self worth and subjecting themselves to the whims of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:12 PM
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I never said there was no value in a woman unless they were dispensing sex. In fact, i specifically said in the confines of seeking relationships, not just a sex. Why are men so wrong for wanting what women can easily get? Men want fulfilling relationships too. But obviously most women don’t care for most men which leads me back to my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:02 PM
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I do not think most of the women here are reasonable at all. Most of them come to brag about their relationships and marriages and talk down to men who struggle dating. I don’t know if it make them feel good or something to trash on people who are already down but it’s pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:00 PM
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I don’t agree. How does the “wording” make it misogynistic? Plenty of men have suffered enough at this game because women have shown time and time again who the ones the really want are, and it’s not most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:57 PM
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You just missed my entire point. i’m not saying enforced monogamy is right, i’m saying it balanced dating and relationships a bit. it’s a moot point because it’s gone and it’s not coming back. if that’s really all you took from my entire post i don’t even mind what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:47 AM
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I can appreciate that. Us fighting each other is only what the women of the sub want to see. I in no way mean to patronize anyone. I mean it when i say i’m trying to help. I am not talking down to anyone, i have been there before and i know how it feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:34 AM
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That’s what i mean. The society we live in now is a joke. We are given empty platitudes that people say to make themselves feel better and morally superior about how being a good person and this and that and whatever bullshit. No, that is not what determines your attraction to the opposite sex. You either got lucky at birth or you didn’t, and while there are things you can do to self improve and become more attractive, there is a finite ceiling to this. The lower your start, the lower the ceilin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:31 AM
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patronizing to who? I don’t expect blue pilled men or men that have a naive and overly optimistic view of women to take me serious. That’s not who i’m talking to. I’m talking to the men who understand how hard dating can be for most guys and have had very bad experiences trying to date. How is it patronizing to suggest to the men who are angry and frustrated that it’s okay to be frustrated, but they need to move past it and live their lives for themselves, and de center women from lives and deta…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:07 AM
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It’s useless. Most of them will never concede this. It’s ridiculous we still have to point this out. And you know, it’s not even a big deal. I get it, no one wants to date an ugly person. The issue comes in where guys that aren’t even ugly are literally considered not suitable for sexual relations or relationships until a woman is in her mid to late 30s and wants a family. Then she’ll take whatever is a stable option that will make the good foundations for a family. Women only really want the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:04 AM
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Yes, funny how it works when you’ve been deemed undesirable by women you tend to have low self esteem. There is no therapy that will make you instantly more physically attractive. How you are perceived is directly linked to your looks. It seems we agree on one aspect. Men need to stop chasing women and focus on themselves and what they want to do with their lives and disregard women. Cutting women and dating out of their lives is the best thing us “averages” can do. Removing ourselves from the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:59 AM
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TRP was born out of despair. Of asking the question of “why am i not good enough despite doing everything i can to be a good person and be like able and presentable”. A lot of poor bastards ask this question when they haven’t even realized all of that work and self improvement bullshit that they’re doing means nothing to the ones they’re doing it for, women. These men want a relationship and still have a naive and unfortunate view of how the reality of women’s attraction and desire works. These …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:52 AM
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TRP was born out of despair. Of asking the question of “why am i not good enough despite doing everything i can to be a good person and be like able and presentable”. A lot of poor bastards ask this question when they haven’t even realized all of that work and self improvement bullshit that they’re doing means nothing to the ones they’re doing it for, women. These men want a relationship and still have a naive and unfortunate view of how the reality of women’s attraction and desire works. These …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:52 AM
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Nope. Plenty of men just don’t want a woman that’s given herself to other men freely. The idea just grosses plenty of men out. Sorry that that is the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:10 AM
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It does appear that most men are treated like disposable garbage other than a minority of HVMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:05 AM
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No, to you it is. You can pm me if you want to continue arguing over my personal reasons for trying to help men on this sub. otherwise, we are way off topic and what we are talking about it irrelevant to this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:58 AM
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That’s the impression i leave on you. I have articulated myself and my thoughts very well in my responses. I have nothing to gain from attention. We are way off topic from this thread anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:51 AM
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No, I am not looking for attention. That’s extremely insulting. I’m telling me to walk away from dating and de center women form their lives. I don’t know what your problem with me is but i couldn’t care less about attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:43 AM
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I don’t need attention from people i’ll never meet in real life. I’m trying to help young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:36 AM
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Men need to walk away and use their political will to advocate for themselves and prevent their resources and tax dollars from being used for women’s causes. Men need to de center women form their lives and walk away from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:00 AM
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Not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:57 AM
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You said women and men, indicating all of each respective sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:54 AM
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What? Why would I be a grifter? I’m trying to help men? I’ve known someone who committed suicide because he thought he was so ugly and undesirable. I just don’t want any more young men to kill themselves. I’ve experienced this hurt from not being desirable too. Men are humans with emotions too. I don’t understand why you’d automatically assume i’m over 30. I’m 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:44 AM
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Oh it is. We can choose to not show respect to a woman who is hypocritical. I will won’t, and plenty of men won’t, show respect or care for women that make different rules for different men. You are not entitled to respect if you don’t even respect what you say you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:29 AM
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To a degree I agree. So more men should stop prioritizing women and drop out of dating and find other pursuits that don’t involve women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:26 AM
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You seem like you hate men and value women much more than men. Be suse of that, i have nothing else to say to you. Nothing you say will make me agree with you. I don’t find women inherently more valuable than men, and women like you are the reason men increasingly dont care to date. All do the men looking at this comment thread should take note, this is what women think about you. Absolutely disgusting example of misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:25 AM
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Some men can, most can’t. Either they are born with a highly attractive features or they aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:14 AM
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Because women tend to be the object of desire. Men without prospects for romantic connections are going to be tempted to try to form romantic relationships with women. Then said women will get mad. I agree men who have no problem getting women can be platonic friends with women. Why hang around women who talk about their dating lives and their sex lives if you as a man can’t form romantic relationships. it’s degrading and disheartening.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:13 AM
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You can. There are a small amount of men who are highly desirable. Personality is always second to looks for most women. Most men can’t become that desirable in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:10 AM
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What exactly is your issue with me? I do not have resentment towards women, i just explained this. I bear no ill will towards women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:48 AM
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Incorrect. Women are not inherently more valuable or more attractive, in quite frankly the fact that you’re spewing such nonsense makes me feel sorry for your son. Society conditions use to see women as more valuable and attractive. That’s why i said before, men need to walk away from women, stop catering to them, advocate against their tax dollars being used for women’s issues, stop supporting women’s causes, and find something else in their life to live for. You’re the perfect example of femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:44 AM
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No, i don’t think so. I am here to help men learn to stop being obsessed and resenting women, and to find self worth outside of women. That is a worthy use of my time to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:40 AM
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MGTOW is the way. More men need to cast off the shackles of “pursuing women” and making women the center of their lives. That’s what the truth is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:39 AM
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It is hypocritical to offer conflicting narratives about being a sex object. You are not entitled to respect if the rules change depending on the man. You will just be seen as someone who is a sex object when it benefits her 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:38 AM
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Imagine deriving so much self worth on women. Just sad dude. Women are not more valuable than men. I guess enjoy constantly making women the center of your life. Besides, women getting picked and pickier isnt helping the case for most men. Walking away from this and disengaging from women and dating, aka, not playing a game where the rules are rigged against you is the best choice. Enforced monogamy offered a solution before. I’m not saying it was right, but now that that’s out the window, more …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:34 AM
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Why should they? Do they need to? I don’t see how disengaging from women and dating is sabotaging when the cause of so many men’s distress is there apparently undesirable ness from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:28 AM
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It is not a myth. Men are lonely and most of them do want female companionship and a healthy relationship with a woman. Since that is not possible for a lot of men, and they center women in their lives, they feel like failures because most women don’t want them. Male friendships will never completely replace the love of a partner, but there can be other things to dedicate one’s life to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:09 AM
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I have. I practice what I preach. I no longer seek romantic relationships with women for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:03 AM
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I told you, looking at women as sex objects is not the goal here, and is the exact opposite of what i’ve said. That is not the way. The alienation is of no matter. Friends of the opposite sex is fine, but checking out of dating is the solution here. Just stepping away from dating and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:42 AM
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What did I just say? There is no objectification if you walk away is there? You don’t get it. It’s not about alienation or objectifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:41 AM
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A lot of men start down this path because of the looks issue my guy. The red pill does feed resentment however, and i am not a fan of that. Men should improve for themselves, not women. If you look at my other comments, i want more men to just walk away and let go of all of this hatred and sadness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:36 AM
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Women do leave them out in the cold, but there’s no conspiracy. A lot of these men are sad and frustrated and trying to figure out why they are so undesirable. They turn to hatred to cope. It’s sad it has to be this way, but we need to walk away from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:35 AM
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Did I say i wasn’t? I’ve acknowledged my situation. It’s unfortunate and at one point in time i sought out a woman i could start a relationship with and build something with but that only brought me disappointment and pain. I’m doing exactly what I described to you and trying toward other men away from resentment and hatred towards women towards finding another way. Carrying around all of that suffering and hate is not a way anyone should live.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:32 AM
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Some of the manosphere is indeed obsessed with women. We are in agreement. I also want this to stop. This fuels more and more resentment and anger. There is no point in holding such sadness and hate in one’s heart, no one should subject themselves to live such a miserable life. Demoralized and destitute men are flocking to these because society has not given them healthy ways to explore their identity outside of women. Because women are increasingly finding most men undesirable, these men go ful…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:36 AM
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It has actually gotten markedly more difficult. That’s why the blue pill advice late 30 something’s and up give here is so tone deaf. More and more men are single and unable to find a partner. As I’ve said so many other times within the span of two days to other users, men need to just start walking away. Stop touching the hour stove, stop setting yourself up for anguish and disappointment when you realize time and time again (for most men at least) you’re not the desirable one most women want a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:29 AM
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RP is for the most part not conspiracy. It gets some things wrong but mostly right. It’s simply seeing the dating world for what it is and advises men to improve at all costs to become more desirable. Increasingly, despite self improvement, more and more men will be left out of what’s considered desirable. This is where other things come to fill in the gaps. These men should not turn towards hate but MGTOW. And i’m not talking about mgtow forums where men go to talk about women and bash them, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:23 AM
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I think there will be a slow shift of men accepting the faux human interaction they pay for is just that, fake. AI will undoubtedly be able to create any manner one fantasy that men want to see/beat off to while being even more inexpensive. OF will not be able to compete against VR porn that can create any scenario they want to see in minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:20 AM
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There’s a ceiling on how attractive any one individual can become. The lower you start the lower the ceiling is. And it is an increasingly moot poot anyway as women increasingly will not even consider anyone but top tier men. They’d rather be alone. That is fine, i’m telling men they should accept this and move on, they don’t need women. Why keep anguishing yourself over a game that does nothing but hurt you. I don’t want to see other men have to fall into the hole of despair and climb out like …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:09 AM
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And yet the red pill is getting more and more popular, where as flat earthers have remained a small minority of individuals for centuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:00 AM
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This is much my view. I don’t bear any ill will towards women at all, i just don’t know how this isn’t obvious to anyone that’s dated. Like EVERYONE knows men that struggle to even find women, i don’t think i’ve met many women who actually struggle to go on dates, just not get used by the men that actually want to be in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:56 PM
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Yeah except for the vast majority of men it’s not a simple as ordering a buffet or a slice of pizza no matter where they go. Average joe is not getting many opportunities with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:55 PM
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I didn’t say that biology dictates everything. If more men were willing to be disciplined enough to move their lives past women and detach themselves from this notion they need women and sex, their lives would be much betters What is the point of all of this suffering if you’re an average to below average man? You most likely will not be desirable to the vast majority of women, even the women in this sub have made that clear and i do not believe women have inherently more value than men. That is…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:42 PM
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No I agree. But becoming physically more attractive is the key to all of this. Sure, being charismatic is right behind that, but it will only get you so far without the looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:38 PM
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Average and below average women don’t want average and below average men. You just basically admitted that. The ones getting flirted and actively desired/pursued are a small fraction of men. I don’t think women have inherently more value and it would greatly benefit men from moving away from this mindset. A relationship is comprised of two parts, neither is less of value than the other. Even having the mindset shows you why more men need to step away from this ridiculous mindset and the dating g…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:36 PM
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Thank you, I have made my peace. I do hope they turn to solutions that will not continue to anguish them. I wish you the best as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:18 PM
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Agree. I think men need to cast off women as well. Most men would be better off disengaging from women completely and leaving them alone. It’s not worth the self sabotage and frustration playing their game and dancing to their tune. It’s a game stacked against most men, so they should just walk away. Don’t throw the board out of a fit of anger or become bitter, just walk away, it’s that simple. Men don’t need women anymore than women don’t need men, and more men need to understand this. If they …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:13 PM
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Men have always been the pursuers, in the past and still today men have desperately wanted women for sex and relationships and to start families. In the brave new world we live in, more guys need to cast off that shackle and urge and live for something else. I’d hate to see more and more men in despair over being undesirable. Believe it or not they do in fact have feelings and should not continue sacrificing dignity and self worth to find a woman at all costs. If they find a girl that treats the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:10 PM
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This is not new information to me. Which is why like i said in my other reply to you men should stop playing a game they’re not going to win. Men have more will power than they give themselves credit for. They can let women share the most desirable men, while they focus their time and energy on other purposes for living. Sexual urges can be fulfilled via masturbation or prostitution if that becomes legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:07 PM
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The same way unremarkable women shouldn’t get attention from men right? No, they don’t face that problem whatsoever. Most women will never have issues finding sex OR a relationship. This is why i advocate for men who are average and below in terms of attraction to stop playing a game they are getting shit on in, de center women from their lives and ignore them, and find another purpose. They should also seek to avoid contributing to help women’s issues in society and lobby for their tax dollars …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:05 PM
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Okay, well most people don’t care about “pills” IRL. The entire RP movement MGTOW movement is just a response to the issues men face with women’s increasing selectiveness. It’s almost like when men face significant problems they go looking for answers and bad actors fill in the empty space society has left.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:02 PM
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Okay dude/lady, whatever you say! I’ve made my point and i don’t think anything you’ve said refutes it. Most of the men here know what the real standard is for getting sex and relationships, and most of it has nothing to do with basic hygiene or attitude. Everyone knows being an asshole or unhygienic will pose problems when trying to date, but all of these so called “flaws” can and will be overlooked for certain men. That’s why it’s hard to take the “it’s your attitude, women don’t want to be vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:53 PM
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And how do you know every single woman reports and every man doesn’t again?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:51 PM
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I meant the women here, I apologize. No I don’t think the average woman is out harm most men. It will just be completely useless as even they are loathe to admit what and who they are actually after in terms of dating and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:16 PM
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Women don’t have to do much to be hot apparently. As women love pointing out females are just more attractive, right? and men have sought out women for not only sex but relationships as well even when dating dynamics were far more in men’s favor, so not really the argument you think that is…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:13 PM
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Not particularly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:12 PM
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That has not been women’s existence for centuries. This seems to be a re-occurring theme with you guys. NO ONE had it good in the middle ages besides nobility and maybe some merchant classes. There was a very good chance every man at some point would be levied to go fight and die in a war he had no knowledge of, not exactly a great existence either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:11 PM
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I apologize but that flew over my head. What exactly are you referring to? Many women do not smell good in the genital area.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:10 PM
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Become hot is not really actionable advice. Sure some men will be able to do it, but there’s only so much an individual can improve, and there’s not a whole lot of improvement to be done on the face aside from a haircut and skin care routine. No human being wants to feel completely undesired, it hurts. So that leads down the path to toxic ideologies. I’m not saying that’s right, i’m just saying a person scorned is more likely to adopt anything that makes them feel better about their shit situati…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:08 PM
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Imagine needing an endless buffet when you all you want is a slice of pizza.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:06 PM
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And what exactly has been debunked?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:05 PM
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This is the only answer. Lock the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:04 PM
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That’s the point though. Even the advice they give is usually done with malicious intent, or they will just talk down to you. If you struggle with dating, take a shower, get a haircut, stop being loser and talk to people. Notice how they jump to serious defects they automatically assume are present that is not true for most of the male population?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:04 PM
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I mean at the end of the day, why would you ask people you know are going to be dishonest or gaslight you for advice? Why ask people who don’t like you simply because you are unsuccessful at dating and you’re a man? The women here are just as toxic as the men. No dude is going to get good advice from 95% of the women on this sub. They’ll continue to dance around the real reason the majority of guys struggle with dating, and we all already know what it is. God forbid i mention it or my post will …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:02 PM
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I doubt like most men, most women understand or have even heard of any sort of pill ideology. You guys just so desperately want to dance around the issue and blame everything BUT the real reason very many men fail at dating and it’s amusing to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 09:59 PM
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And for every third woman that has a fish smell to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 09:58 PM
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Fails at dating=Must be unhygienic. lmao. a lot of women i’ve been with have smelled horrible once the underwear came off, so i don’t think women are as hygienic as the women here like to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 09:57 PM
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Remember, the default for men failing is it must be because they don’t shave/shower/get haircuts. It’s impossible for a guy to be below average-average and struggle!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:48 PM
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Yes, average women do no want average men, but most men would be fine with a woman on his own level. Women do not date down, men do. It has nothing to do with shrieking. Maybe some guys it does, but most men who are not on reddit it can’t get dates it has everything to do with many women don’t desire someone who isn’t very conventionally attractive. You can point out however many flaws you want in the dating app studies, but it’s the simple truth. Edit: “Sounds like he needs to fix his face and …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:45 PM
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I agree below average and even average men need to strive to become one of the desirable ones or they need to exit the dating market and cut women out and dating out of their lives. Only way to win a game where the rules are stacked against you is to work hard and with some luck you can become one of the “winners” or just stop playing the game. They can help themselves by not engaging with women like yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:43 PM
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The minority of men who can become desirable will not longer to desire the majority of women who want him. That’s the difference. Women have to put zero effort in and still have opportunities, the same is not true for men. Average women do not want average men, and there is a ceiling to how much one can realistically improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:40 PM
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The majority of men have not been a candidate to receive it. That’s just the way it is. I’ll take that as your acknowledgment that women only pursue the most attractive men 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:37 PM
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I strongly disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:34 PM
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I shouldn’t need to call out that the mods selectively enforce their own rules and make it my job to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:22 PM
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The majority of men definitely do not experience this, and it’s not lack of social awareness, most men are reminded that they are undesirable/not good enough for most women on a somewhat frequent basis so they’re not even going to bother expecting anyone to flirt with them. That’s kind of what happens when most women don’t want most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:21 PM
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What you described is the treatment a small minority of men will ever get, i’m glad we agree on principle even if the wording is a bit different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:04 PM
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Didn’t say that. I said if a woman is choosing a guy who sucks in bed BECAUSE he is hot, that’s her problem. I did not say hot guys are selfish in bed. Women choose poorly sometimes, sounds like you’re trying to cope around that :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:49 PM
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I disagree women are going below their league for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:35 PM
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I’m not the direct cause of circle jerking lol. I don’t circle jerk so your point is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:25 PM
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“Like minded men” lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:06 PM
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To succeed both biologically and socially. That’s not being petty at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:59 PM
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To sum it up, if she wanted to she would. If you’re not “chad” dont expect this treatment fellas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:53 PM
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I never said there was a grand conspiracy, you just made that up. I said there’s an anti male bias and a disdain for male opinions regarding anything that involves females or how society could improve to benefit them as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:50 PM
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I just want it to be enforced fairly 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:48 PM
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Men don’t “cum every time from sex”. That is untrue. If women choose men that don’t sexually satisfy them but they’re “hawt”, that’s on that woman, that’s not the man’s issue. Choose better 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:47 PM
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I simply do not agree with you as at this point certain viewpoints are at least publicly acceptable to have and some aren’t, even if the majority doesn’t support it. Political biases seep into every corner of leadership at any company. Many companies at this point are too big to fail unfortunately. Companies have been effective at creating monopolies for the past 5 decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:46 PM
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So walking away from a system that no longer benefits men is engaging in the “petty games of lesser men”? Shows your bias right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:41 PM
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So you agree then, political bias plays a role in how companies choose to market/what they do. At the end of the day these companies are still ran by people who show their own thoughts and biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:39 PM
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and I agree to an extent. Society puts a lot of value on a man that can get a lot of women though. So don’t be surprised if he does things that you think are stupid that he thinks we work to get him women. I think more men should disengage from women if they are not in the minority of men that women lust over and find other things to fulfill his life and cope with the loneliness. That includes advocating for their tax dollars not to be used on women’s problems/issues in society other than the ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:37 PM
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I don’t think women want to get treated like shit. The difference is women will tolerate it from some men, the old “breaking the rules for some men” argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:27 PM
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Political biases will seep in. Several companies have pulled ads or made business choices that negatively affected their business. Bud light?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:26 PM
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And was FDS banned? Also yes we know it’s acceptable for there to be platforms for man hating. The inverse is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:18 PM
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I don’t agree. Agree to disagree 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:14 PM
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The different between what? Masculine and just plain asshole behavior? Yes plenty of men do. I’m trying to have a good faith argument, why are you being rude?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:11 PM
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I agree, however social media was time and time again shown to be censoring conservatives more strictly than liberals. It’s the same with men’s issues. The non threatening/violent red pill takes are being censored because the organization of reddit has leadership that disdains men complaining or coming up with solutions to their issues in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:05 PM
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I believe the political bias of social media leadership has been show time and time again, so most likely, we’re just not going to agree on this. Have a good one m8.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:03 PM
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Okay. Well i’m not going to try to fuck and dash because i’m not going to disrespect her, but i also do not respect the way she views it and for that reason as well as the fact she seems self obsessed i’ll take Amanda.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:59 PM
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Not necessarily true, i think plenty of women like masculine behaviors, not toxically masculine behaviors (whatever that actually means). Women like very attractive men, THAT is the point. The toxic masculinity issue comes after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:58 PM
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Believe it or not organizations leadership can have political biases. Many of the elite of social media companies have heavy liberal biases and will not allow discussions about ideas and things and society that will benefit men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:57 PM
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Talking about lookism and hypergamy won’t lose you anymore sponsors than porn will.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:49 PM
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That’s what i mean, if they were that concerned with looking bad that shit would get removed. So it’s clear who they are targeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:44 PM
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I don’t need any sort of “fix”. I think there’s a few black pill points that merit discussion in a dating sub. We can just strip at the phrase black pill and we’d be allowed to discuss half the shit besides the “looks” argument. It’s simply understated how much it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:44 PM
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Reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:39 PM
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It’s not going to take money out of their or their investors pockets. Subs that have a zero tolerance policy towards threats or advocating for harm would be fine, it’s the bias towards anything that has to do with men speaking out about something that does not benefit them and they think is an issue in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:39 PM
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Yes, we know reddit bans anything approaching discussion about how dating dynamics could be based on looks and this impacts most men. I can understand if the mods are doing it out of an abundance of caution, it’s more of a reddit censorship thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:33 PM
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Whatever boogeyman the people here want it to mean that day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:31 PM
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It seems like it happens quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:30 PM
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I don’t report things unless i see egregious violations because i’m not a baby that needs to report everything i see when i don’t agree with it unlike most of the people on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:28 PM
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Untrue and bad faith argument. If women are choosing men that don’t make them cum that’s on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:28 PM
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I’ve seen numerous instances of women (and sometimes men) circle jerking in threads so…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:26 PM
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Perhaps that is correct, just sad that simple realities can’t be acknowledged in this sub. Rational and reasonable people that subscribe to the blk pill are not pushing for women’s rights to be removed or to force them to do anything or even for all men everywhere to give up and die, to paint all blk pillers like that is dramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:26 PM
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I am aware, what did i say that was so inflammatory? I’ve never said anything along the lines of that women should be forced to date anyone they don’t want to, that they should do this or that etc etc. I’ve said undesirable men should leave women alone and focus on themselves and de center women from their lives while advocating to remove themselves from women’s issues, how is that inflammatory exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:24 PM
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I do not agree with you so i’ll just agree to disagree on that. I believe the black pill has a place in the discussion as looks are incredibly important. Having a zero tolerance policy with no nuance is just stupid, i’m sorry. Of course guys that are saying you have to look like a literally male model should have those posts removed but black pill definitely has a role to play in modern dating dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:23 PM
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I’m not making inflammatory red pill comments, you just take offense to what i say because you don’t want to listen to other people’s points. All of my points i’ve made i explained in detail why i believe that is the way it is, it is not inflammatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:17 PM
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Oh i agree. Straight doom and gloom i agree should not be allowed, but someone making a post trying to start a discussion about how it seems like most women don’t want most men getting removed should tell you all you need to know about the mods. This is a sub discuss dating dynamics in the modern day, even the bad side of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:16 PM
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Depends on the personality if each and if we mesh well. Also what does “theological N-count” mean? On top of all of that what are either of them good in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:11 PM
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CMV: The “no woe is me or blk pill content” and “no circle jerk” rules are extremely vague and used to shut down any discussion the biased blue pill mods that run this sub don’t like.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:10 PM
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Women like masculine traits and sometimes domineering men. However what most men in this sub don’t get is women don’t “like” toxic masculinity, they’ll just give a subset of men a pass to be toxically masculine and give them sex and relationships anyway. I don’t think many women like being objectified or treated as inferior, some of the men on here are mad that certain men can get away with it but most (or they) can’t. It’s hypocritical and unfair, but that’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:37 PM
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Okay well one, you just proved you may be an abusive parent, and two, if a guy is trying to level up to become the desirable man that women want, why would he not take that route? You guys are always the ones saying parents should not be involved in their kids sex lives nor teach them how to interact with the opposite sex when it comes to dating. They are simply going to do what they think is seen as attractive to the opposite sex, and that does indeed make them high value, as per the biological…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:35 PM
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His point is men should stop listening to women and do their own thing that they think will get the end result they desire. How is that complaining? I agree complaining is counter productive, but a blueprint for how to get what you desire is not complaining whether you agree or disagree with him. What he doesn’t acknowledge is that the only men who can act toxically masculine and get away with it are the high value desirable men. A Low value guy being toxically masculine will just get him shunne…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:32 PM
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Are you going to make a counter argument or just contribute nothing to the discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:26 PM
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I’ll agree with the sentiment that women aren’t a monolith, however, there are general patterns of behavior most women follow. You don’t need to understand anything other than hypergamy and whether you are seen as a desirable male or not. If that is true they’ll make it very easy to understand them and they’ll do just about anything to make sure that effort is reciprocated and to understand you as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:25 PM
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As unfortunate as this is it is a solution. However, i don’t know how prevalent it will become. Parents aren’t going to want to abort their male fetuses because of “dating dynamics” in modern day society. It would definitely balance out the dating issues but i just don’t know how realistic that is en masse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:22 PM
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This is true. Also war got rid of a LOT of men in the past. I don’t think people really understand how many men have died in wars in the past millennium alone. Having much less men around means women simply can’t afford to be as choosy if they want to start a family. The power in the past wasn’t the patriarchy imo, it was the shortage of men that allowed men to act terrible and get away with it. It is overstated on here how often women would have to tolerate being in a relationship with an abusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:23 PM
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Maybe, but some people are genuinely just more happy individuals when they are with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:21 PM
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I think more men are attracted to non physical features once a looks threshold is crossed than this sub gives credit for. I look for intelligence and compassion in a woman. I would be with an average looking girl who has those traits than a super model looking girl. I also don’t believe in any sort of hard wall either for either sex. People usually get less attractive the older they get, but that works both ways. If i was in my late 30s, id be looking for someone in her 30s. The initial attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:42 PM
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If he acts in a way that is antithetical to how she believes women should be treated and is a feminist, that is counter. I’m talking about mostly social issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:38 PM
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If a woman wants a man that represents things that are inherently counter to the political views she’s supports it is somewhat suspect. Then again, for most people biological imperatives override social and political ones. Meaning for a “chad” (i hate that term) she will tolerate behavior that is inconsistent with her political beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:34 PM
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I agree but so are most of the topics on here. Some of the men on here are chomping at the bit to point out hypocrisy, that’s all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:32 PM
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Self centeredness. I am a very thoughtful person and go out of my way to learn about and do cute things for the girl i’m seeing. A lot of the women i’ve seen and been on dates with seem to love talking about themselves and the other dates they’ve been on (pretty rude) while ordering 4 margaritas on my tab.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:31 PM
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I agree that women are becoming more picky but it is on the wrong characteristics. I’m truly glad that women no longer have to tolerate being in relationships with men who are dangerous and that they don’t want to be with. However, it is my experience that women WILL tolerate this behavior from men if they are very attractive. The typical rules go out the window. It is antithetical to not being viewed as a sex object if it’s tolerated only for a small portion of men, it still hurts the cause of …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:23 PM
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For the most part I agree. I’ll add the caveat however that some people’s lives, both men and women markedly improve when they are in a healthy relationship with someone the truly desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:37 PM
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I agree. This can be overcome with will power. It is not an ideal outcome, but most men are no longer considered desirable. The only way to win in this situation is to not play.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:36 PM
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I agree. Chad doesn’t chase, women chase chad. This is known. That’s where a lot of women’s inevitable frustration comes from when she says “men are trash”. Most men are not chad however, this is where mgtow was right. Men need to find another purpose for living. If a woman comes along who really wants him and desires him, treats him like a top tier man, and the attraction is mutual, fantastic. Otherwise i think most men are better off single than dealing with being settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:35 PM
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It’s usually less the sex and more the drive itself and also having a fulfilling relationship with a female companion. But i agree this is not a vital need to continue living, but some men do not take the absence of these things well. A lot actually. I believe willpower can overcome this. At the same time these undesirables or men who have disengaged from women need to begin lobbying to prevent their tax dollars being used towards issues and movements that concern primarily women, it’s only fair…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:29 PM
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Actually i have been saying men that are not top tie need to disengage from women and find another purpose in life that gives their lives meaning. Masturbationen and prostitution are helpful stop gaps, but more men should find something else that gives meaning to their lives. As i also said before, these undesirables need to lobby to prevent their tax dollars being used for women’s issues and movements.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:24 PM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:20 AM
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This is EXACTLY it. This what the don’t get about the body count arguement as well. It’s not just that it’s undesirable that you’ve slept with a LOT of men, it’s that you’re inevitably going to get going to get compared to some of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:54 AM
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Women are becoming more and more picky. Even the women on this sub say most men are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:52 AM
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Still a privilege in the sense most of them could get relationships next week if they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:37 AM
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I agree. Men need not subject themselves to this. If prostitution would be fully legalized i’d say the easy solution is to de center women from your life and pay for sex when you really need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:17 AM
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Uhh i could say the same for women. Women act like them settling for their looks match is doing the guy a “favor”. Men need to disengage and stop seeking women and also disengage from having their tax dollars used towards women’s issues and movements. No more funding planned parenthood from “undesirable mens” tax dollars. Instead of being angry since most men aren’t desirable they need to find another purpose in life that does not include women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:46 AM
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It does and will affect that. The more men a woman is with the more likely the current guy she is with does not stack up to a previous guy, and at that point she loses a degree of respect for him but just won’t tell him that because she wants a family kids etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:21 AM
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Some men would rather stay single because they do not respect that 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:19 AM
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It’s hypocritical to not want to be treated like a sex objects only SOMETIMES.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:18 AM
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I believe in the willpower of men. I choose to believe we can rise above our base instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:27 PM
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If you look at my comments on another thread, I point out how specifically there’s a subset of men women do not mind being sexually objectified by, and will even encourage it, but for all other men it’s extremely offensive and misogynistic. It is just blatant hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:26 PM
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Maybe for the men that want casual sex? Also these men are most likely frustrated at not being a chad or the extremely desirable men that women reserve their hookups for. It’s unfortunate but jealousy is a human emotion that applies to men and women. If you as a man weren’t desirable enough for a hookup but are for a relationship you will never experience the raw sexual attraction that a woman can have for the man she truly desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:13 PM
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Thanks for your pointless input, but that’s pretty much what i was saying. I’m not demonizing them whatsoever, just saying it’s not a good idea for most men to date women like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:03 PM
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Okay, and what do you suggest then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:47 PM
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Increasing numbers of men are becoming unsuccessful. Women can be content with sharing the minority of successful ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:46 PM
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The desire for women does not inherently equal the need for sleep or food.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:30 PM
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Yes, both men and women can be entitled. What i am saying solves that issue as well. There’s no entitlement to women if more men just disengage from dating and women altogether. Again, focus energy on political movements to not use single men’s tax dollars towards women’s issues and focus on becoming the best man you can be filling up your life with various meaning and hobbies that have nothing to do with women inherently.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:29 PM
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You’re attacking the wrong guy. I think it’s harmful for men to continue going down the path of centralizing women in their lives rather than finding another reason to live and disengaging from women altogether. Women have made their opinions and “preferences” clear, nothing we can do but not play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:27 PM
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How is this a “me” thing? Average men are no longer desired by most women, they even say it themselves in this sub. Men should be allowed to lobby for where they want their tax dollars to go/not go. That’s democracy. Men need environments/role models to teach them to disengage from women and find some other purpose in life. Most men don’t get weird or dangerous ideas about women, not of the harm done is to themselves and their self image. Men are the ultimate losers from this, not women. That’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:26 PM
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I am aware, i am a man, but am telling you as a man it can be overcame. We aren’t simpletons, men just don’t have many good role models/environments that can teach them how to do this. Society looks down on men and their sexuality and therefore this should be a net positive for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:23 PM
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A woman doing everything she can to be with a man and showing genuine desire for the man she’s with, willing to do stuff that she normally wouldn’t do, willing to make exceptions let stuff slide etc. And not that i’m not saying a guy who desires this woman back should take advantage of any of this. If the desire is mutual the man will want the woman to be as comfortable as possible and not want her to do something she doesn’t want to even if she’s willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:22 PM
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And if your stated goal leads to you being treated like a sex object, then it is in fact hypocrisy and you are not entitled to being treated like anything else even by the men you don’t want to be treated like a sex object by. I’m not saying disparaging anyone is good? I didn’t say relationships are settling necessarily, but most are to a degree. I want to either be the one who is the object or desire or not participate at all. I don’t know why that’s so surprising. You’re right, society doesn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:20 PM
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I see, i correct myself then. I still believe that only to be true as most women know they can be in a relationship or have sex tomorrow if they wanted. What seems like men centering their lives around women is really men wanting what most women have the option of, and i agree that’s not healthy and there needs to be more movements to de center women from men’s lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:13 PM
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Well when one is not an extremely high value guy, that insecurity naturally comes. I’ve done everything i’ve can to be generous in bed, attentive to my partners. But at the end of the day i’m still average and not many women are going to show me the ultimate desire they show for high tier men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:11 PM
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Condemning someone for hypocrisy is perfectly valid. Jealousy is a human emotion, stop pretending like it only applies to men. No, plenty of men are shut out of dating. Over a majority of men are no longer seen as desirable for anything other than settling. I think men should work to become more desirable so they can be the ones women break their “rules” for, or should drop out of the dating market and disengage from women while lobbying for their tax dollars not to be used on women’s issues or …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:06 PM
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I am not currently in a relationship, but i have not had much issue pleasuring the women i have been with. Men’s ultimate fear in modern day society is not being desirable enough to their partner. Few men will ever truly be as desirable as the other men his partner has had. That is where this comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:04 PM
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People have deprioritized biological desires all the time. Society actually controls the very negative aspects of biological desire, it can most definitely be done. Worst case scenario prostitution will fill in the gaps while finding other wholesome reasons for one’s existence puts things other than women at the center of a man’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:02 PM
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I’m not. I think more men should completely disengage from women altogether. It will save them a lot of heartache and hardship. There also needs to be movements preventing single men’s tax dollars from being funneled towards women’s issues and causes as well. Seeing as how over a majority over men are no longer suitable for anything other than being begrudgingly settled for once a woman wants a family (ie, not desirable) is think this is the best for all involved come what may.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:01 PM
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A lot of men unfortunately yes. Until a movement takes root that tries to steer men into overcoming their biological urge to seek out women for relationships and sex, it won’t happen en masse unfortunately. There’s just too many men now - a majority - who the average female sees as undesirable for anything other than begrudgingly settling for once she’s getting up in age (not talking about any sort of wall) so i think this is for the best for all involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:56 PM
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The point was women are not necessarily happier single than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:53 PM
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Yes prostitution should be legalized and that should take care of the problem. More men need to disengage from women and dive into a journey of self love, many of the men in modern society need it. They don’t need women, humans have adapted to overcome our evolutionary tendencies before, we can do it again. With that change there also needs to be movements that also disengage men’s tax dollars going towards women’s issues and causes as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:49 PM
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They need to accept their fate by dropping themselves out of the dating market and not subjecting themselves to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:46 PM
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Please don’t burn out and leave this sub, we need some people with common sense here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:44 PM
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Yep, they’ll never be the object of genuine desire in that relationship. They’ll always be fighting to keep the relationship alive while she is non chalant. That’s why these men need to level up to become highly desirable or find a girl who really does desire them like that, or drop out of the dating market and find something that will absorb their time and effort in life that isn’t a woman to preserve their sanity or even (in the cases of extreme despair and suicidal thoughts)their lives. It’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:42 PM
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You literally assume every man here who disagrees with you is some frustrated incel because he can’t get laid. And besides the fact, if a man is shut out of the dating market why would he not be frustrated? Do you expect him to not be a human being and have feelings? Exactly what you’re accusing men of doing to women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:37 PM
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I said with how many others, not how many times with ONE person. Men don’t want to be second rate and generally want to be the best a girl has had. She will inevitably compare him even if it’s subconsciously. It is why i advise men not to seek women with exceedingly high body counts. You won’t be the one she fantasizes about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:36 PM
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That is in fact hypocrisy. Stop saying “move on”, it’s cringe when you say the same things in every response. Women will allow themselves to be treated like sex objects for certain men because they want those men for relationships. They will allow themselves to be treated poorly depending on the guy, that defeats the entire respect me as a person arguement. I’ve seen you try to shame men for not be sexually appealing enough numerous times now on this sub and it’s not going to work on me sweetie.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:31 PM
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Men also think women are pathetic so not sure what your point is there? Men do have friends and a social life, that also are the ones who the onus is on to seek out women to start relationships. Women can just wait and they know they have the option to be in a relationship next week if they wanted to. Funny how when you know you can have something you don’t put as much of an emphasis on it! I’m not upset at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:28 PM
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Uh yeah? Plenty of human beings are afraid of being compared, that’s not a man thing. Women are the gatekeepers of sex, they decide by and large who they have sex with. Whereas most men will have sex with many more women. A man IN A RELATIONSHIP wants the sex to be meaningful and special, it’s much less so when she’s had that with many other men, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:26 PM
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Attitude has little to do with dating and sex. Different rules for different men 🤷‍♂️ women do not like me because i’m average and not extremely conventionally handsome. I don’t have a chip on my shoulder about it, i’ve accepted it and moved on with my life
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:24 PM
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Nope, plenty of women will allow themselves to be objectified depending on the guy. That’s why we call you out on your hypocrisy. As long you change the rules for different guys, expect to be called on your hypocrisy. You either want to be respected as a person or you want to be viewed as a sex object, if you change that depending on the man then your entire arguement is BS. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:22 PM
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Despite what women on this sub say, average men are for the most part not chosen by average women in the first choice, and a good chunk of time even when they are, they act is if they’re doing a favor to the guy that’s ON THEIR LEVEL attraction wise by “settling” with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:20 PM
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YUP. As much as the word entitled is thrown around to describe men, it’s far more applicable to women. Even you as an above average man would have to work hard to get an equally desirable woman, the other way around? not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:18 PM
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Because a lot of men don’t want a woman that has freely shared her body with other guys that may be more desirable than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:17 PM
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Yup, this will be things most of them simply won’t admit because of how vapid it makes them look. I’m no longer mad that i’m undesirable, i’ve just accepted it, i just wish the lies would stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:15 PM
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Actually women being alone and not having families is not healthy for very many women either. Yes it’s almost as if human beings evolved to be in the companionship and to raise offspring with the opposite sex and when that doesn’t happen because of changes in society the brain gives off signals that something is wrong 😦
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:13 PM
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Okay and i’m saying you’re wrong. OH NO WHAT DO WE DO???
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:11 PM
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The same as having children socialize is an absolute requirement for them to be alive, but not doing so makes mal adapated adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:52 PM
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No, I didn’t say every woman is getting laid. I said that option to the vast majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:50 PM
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Nope, not only the women who are visible. Most men are not going for 9/10 stacy believe it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:32 PM
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Romantic companionship is not the same as platonic companionship, try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:31 PM
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Women just have the privilege of having access to that and or sex whenever they want it, so of course they don’t see it as a need
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:20 PM
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Companionship and social belonging is in fact a human need that will damage people psychologically without.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:19 PM
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You mean like talking down to someone and resorting to ad hominem? that’s most of the women on this sub i agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:52 PM
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Ahh trying to copy the other woman huh? That’s a tired tactic unfortunately for you. Maybe you should in fact close the app and stop seething, it might be good for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:47 PM
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Because the points made are being made by 1. a data scientist and 2. if you looked it up are known flaws in survey data. I’m emotional? 😂 you’re the one that tweaked out earlier, maybe choose your insults a little more carefully 🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:44 PM
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I do not in fact hate women. Regardless of whether the source is unreliable, the points he makes are valid, which still passes the point. It does seem like you hate men though, so maybe you should talk about your misandry with YOUR therapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:41 PM
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It lists numerous reasons from a data scientist why survey data is not reliable, it’s not my problem if you choose to read things that you don’t agree with because they make you mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:37 PM
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Full of crap because your source is not reliable, riiight.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:36 PM
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Read this if you’re done being ignorant. https://towardsdatascience.com/survey-says-why-information-based-on-surveys-is-not-always-trustworthy-17b079bc20c9
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:35 PM
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Do you have non survey data? Oh wait, that’s why these studies are inherently flawed and don’t prove anything 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:34 PM
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I’ve listed several reasons why survey data is unreliable AND why your source is a non profit who advocates for women’s issues and is therefore biased. Also the sample population is small.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:33 PM
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Nope, i’ve made valid points. Survey data IS in fact unreliable, which is why topics like these you’re usually able to spin the data in a way that gets the results you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:31 PM
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It’s by a me too non profit. Not gonna say tell you why that’s biased. Survey data in notoriously unreliable so… and again the vague definition of sexual harrasment is absolutely a confounding factor. AND 1,000 women don’t equal all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:21 PM
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That source is extremely biased and it’s a survey of 2000 individuals, so really probably closer to 1,000-1,200 women. So no, I don’t think you can definitively claim 81% of women experience assault or harrasment. By the way, the definition of harassment is so vague i’m not even going to bother explain why that’s problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:15 PM
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I said a lot do the time this includes financially being traditional as well. AKA, being in more money. Without that component it’s hard to have a traditional dynamic i agree. But there is far more than just the monetary part. Acting chivalrous, doing things the woman does not want to do etc. I never said the finance part was not a part of it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:02 PM
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Alright, well if you’re back to this we have nothing to talk about. I’m not upset whatsoever for the 10th time, and if you’re going to continue to try to talk down to me to make yourself feel better it’s kind of pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:47 PM
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And like you guys EVER try to understand why the men here feel the way they do? You just label them as incels, entitled, etc etc. Jump straight to personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:41 PM
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It’s because at some level that is still what is acceptable in society despite the move to change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:40 PM
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It’s an entire range of responsibilities and behaviors in a relationship. You know this, it’s about more than money although often the man in these situations is making more money, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:39 PM
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Well first, even if a guy is traditional” he may still have no problem with his girl working and being in her own money. Many guys like traditional gender roles because that’s the society we were brought up in and even women knowingly or unknowingly confront to these roles just like men do (although they would be loathe to admit it, especially the women on this sub so take these replies with a grain of salt.) You can want traditional gender dynamics without having this weird power play that they…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:36 PM
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Apparently not lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:29 PM
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Bad faith argument. Many men want traditional gender roles without your described power dynamic. If i took the women on here seriously id assume all males hate women and simply want to control them 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:29 PM
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I think they’re referring to the much higher on average male sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:27 PM
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Yes that is commonly used tactic when someone has no arguement and feels like belittling another person because they don’t have the capacity to debate like an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:23 PM
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It’s absolutely asinine. The amount of bad faith arguements and straw men i got lobbed against me was unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:55 PM
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It is in fact, not false. Women expect less consequences for the same actions men take.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:52 PM
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This won’t be addressed but it’s true. Sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:44 PM
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Yes so could i have, it’s entertaining watching an adult act like an elementary school kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:43 PM
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Uh oh, you’re making too much sense and now they’ll say you’re victim blaming for acknowledging people are gasp sometimes responsible for putting themselves es in dangerous circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:41 PM
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Based on a study of a few hundred women or…? you’re just trying to justify being a misandrist, not a good look…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:39 PM
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Can you provide a source please before you keep going with you faux outrage?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:39 PM
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Every time 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:38 PM
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I love how you assume women don’t like me despite not knowing me at all based on reddit posts 🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:37 PM
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Enough with the fake outrage, is that a yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:03 AM
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A man being masculine and having traditionally masculine features is what leads to respect from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:02 AM
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Yes because I found it amusing and fascinating that an ADULT acts like this. Again, the internet turns fully grown adults into petulant children and i find that amusing, so i don’t mind engaging with delusional trolls. Good night schizo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:59 AM
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Yes I have seen a few studies that survey a couple hundred women, of course what actually counts as harassment isn’t take into account. Is assault drunkenly sleeping with someone and regretting it? There is no need for me to be part of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:58 AM
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It’s in full effect fs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:52 AM
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Plenty of the men on this sub are used to the women on this sub being hysterical about every man being a potential predator to the point to where it’s extremely over stated and saturated, like the women of this sub have done on this thread, so they are in fact proving his point .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:52 AM
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Also you’re acting like i’m so pressed when i’m literally not, like i don’t know how many more ways to get across to you that i’m not upset or frustrated at this moment in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:48 AM
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I love how you say all of that and talk about being productive when you’re literally talking down to me 😂😂😂 yes a very productive way to get someone to engage with you lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:47 AM
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Okay, you know what? Let me put it like this, in what way can I articulate that i find that you are being ridiculous without apparently offending you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:45 AM
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Want to help me WHAT?? What is your point even???
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:43 AM
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Im being rude because gasp women’s delusional paranoia MIGHT be slightly ridiculous. I promise you, you’ll be okay, there’s not legions random men planning on how they’re going to rape you. Have you ever considered painting and entire 50% of the population as rapists might not be particularly healthy or productive to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:39 AM
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You’re literally talking to yourself, you’re trying to win some sort of comment battle by talking to me as if i’m upset and i’m finding it actually somewhat amusing and comical if not beneath an adult woman 😂 and i’m not even insulting you like i find this genuinely surprising adults act like this. I guess the internet makes people act very odd, no surprise there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:26 AM
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Okay, im not engaging with you anymore as you’re blatantly choosing to ignore all of my arguements. Have a good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:21 AM
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Maybe take a step back and choose to exercise the advice you’re giving me? It certainly seems like you’re coping with losing our arguement earlier hard by pretending i’m mad to make you feel better 🫣
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:19 AM
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You’re just completely going off about how upset I am while not making any actual points, Congrats. i am not upset whatsoever. I expect dishonest arguements and replies from many of the women on this sub so… don’t know what to tell you, this fantasy about me being upset is your own fabrication lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:10 AM
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“They often times are” You’re basically saying men are oftenly predators. You’re just proving his point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:07 AM
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I’m 0% emotional. You appear to be the one hysterical about your paranoia.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:06 AM
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Yes we get it, rapists everywhere, around the corner, bush, every second man, we get it rape is what you assume that every wants to do to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:04 AM
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No it’s just women don’t want the same consequences for the same actions that men get.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:59 AM
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Like aggressively telling them off like someone who is upset that someone just stole their hat would?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:59 AM
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I can agree with you there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:58 AM
1

Okay if you’re acknowledging that then you know most women expect different treatment for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:58 AM
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Right, men and women aren’t equal so there should be no attempt to make them so then is what you’re saying? No affirmative action then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:57 AM
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They’re not too different than incels in terms of their delusional fears/ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:56 AM
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Okay whatever you say dude. Take your faux virtue signaling elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:55 AM
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No attitude. I’m simply explaining I don’t want to have an entire other comment thread when i’ve already done this like 3 times, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:53 AM
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Being told off like if a guy did it to another guy..?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:52 AM
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I’m not on a campaign. I’ve said numerous times proportional retaliation is legal if you are assaulted. Your dramatic verbiage defeats your own argument. Where did I say i was seeking a fight at all? you’re making up arguements as per usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:51 AM
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Consequences for assaulting someone is often proportional physical retaliation, deal with it. You proved nothing, you changed the goalposts. Unless the act is occurring it’s not self defense. Also these cases get dropped all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:50 AM
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Okey dokey, no equality for men and women then. 👍 Heard it here folks. Scrap the affirmative action programs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:47 AM
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Not really, you assume she didn’t leave a bruise and he did. Again you’re crafting a narrative in your head. And yes even so in that case there’s a good chance you would not be labeled as the aggressor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:46 AM
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I’m not going to explain why you are entitled for wanting to have the same conversation i’ve had with numerous posters already. Read the other comment threads or don’t i don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:45 AM
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You’re now switching the topic to, the girl is “just playing with him”. I’ve said numerous times OPs specific example isn’t good, but it boils down to women don’t expect to get treated like men when acting like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:44 AM
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It states what is proportional force. Slapping someone after you’ve been slapped as long as you didn’t slap them hard enough to break their fucking jaw is proportional force and would most likely not be charged/ be dropped.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:43 AM
1

Nope try again. First we weren’t talking about murder. And second, the distinction in ALL of those cases is that it wasn’t done in self defense. It happened at a separate time, that is not legal and not what the subject was.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:42 AM
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Explained this in detail so i’m not going to bother telling you why you’re wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:39 AM
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If a woman physically assaults him. With the hat thief the consequences would most likely grabbing it back and telling her off, but again, most women would say that thats unreasonable when that’s exactly what a guy would do to another guy. That is OPs point, it’s 2024, equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:39 AM
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Except in a social setting she thinks sexist double standards will work in her favor, when increasingly, that is not the case, as per equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:38 AM
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Slapping a girl after she slaps you is proportional force. The example cited is that you CANNOT break a woman’s nose if she slaps you. Slapping someone who slaps you is proportional force and while the woman would be charged for battery, the charge against the man would most likely be dropped in a claim of self defense. Stand your ground laws make it so the man in this situation would not even be charged.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:35 AM
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Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:32 AM
1

Okay so you use a buzzfeed article where as I use a law firms definition of self defense. I’ll use my source, thanks. Are you conceding?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:30 AM
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Actually no, Actually no, you don’t have to be in fear for your life. “Hitting a woman in self-defense only applies when harm is imminent. This means that the woman is using physical violence and attacking the man. A man can legally be in “imminent danger” if a woman is hitting him.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:29 AM
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Literally go on my other arguement in this thread, i’m not re hashing the same things because you’re being lazy and don’t want to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:27 AM
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https://www.thehivelaw.com/blog/can-a-man-hit-a-woman-in-self-defense/ A man is allowed to legally defend himself if a woman physically assaults him. So yes, it is indeed a consequence of physically assaulting someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:26 AM
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His example was bad, i’ve said that numerous times in other posts. Others are arguing me that men def ending themselves is not acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:25 AM
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When did i say she should be hit over stealing a hat? never said that. only said it’s acceptable in self defense, you’re strawmanning.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:25 AM
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Literally not what was said at all. Women expect NO physical retaliation for assaulting someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:24 AM
1

From my source: “Yes, a man can hit a woman if she hits him first. “Use of force” (hitting someone) gets excused if it’s in self-defense.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:23 AM
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Actually you’re the one off point. We we talking about a man physically defending himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:21 AM
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Or not…? You can assume like everyone else in this thread is doing. It was a poor example, doesn’t make the premise of the arguement wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:21 AM
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Women don’t want to be treated like men is the point. Plenty of women want social bonus points for being a woman and don’t want to be treated with the consequence of acting how men act. I said you DIDNT mention the part where i said a man would most likely take his hat back and tell her to get lost, you immediately jumped to he “pushes her” when i said thats not what should be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:20 AM
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Not at all, you’re purposely not actually addressing many of my points. If you continue to imply i want to “beat women consequence free” you’ll be reported and blocked as that is not at any point what is being said. Defending yourself is the topic at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:18 AM
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I agree 100%. That’s literally the point i’m making in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:15 AM
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Physical retaliation is indeed a consequence of assaulting someone in many cases if you didn’t know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:15 AM
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And yet that happens very, very often with men. You know this and you’re being disingenuous. Funny how you didn’t mention the part without the pushing that i mentioned might happen. I literally even said, i’m not saying you should push her. Just grab your hat and tell her to fuck off, but again, i’m guessing most women would say he’s being an asshole for telling her off and retrieving his property.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:14 AM
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Where did I see a guy should hit a woman for being rude? I said explicitly IF she uses physical violence and you literally just agreed with me, so….
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:11 AM
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You can’t attack someone no, but you are allowed to physically grab it back and tell them to fuck off. You know like a guy would do to another guy? Or probably even push them? I’m not saying a woman should be pushed for taking a guys hat, but the dude can definitely tell them to fuck off and grab it back, guarantee you he’d be “being a jerk” though because it’s “just a woman”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:09 AM
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Like social consequences? Women are far more often allowed to get away with being socially inept/hostile because they are women. Physical consequences? Like not expecting men to defend themselves if they physically assault a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:07 AM
1

Okay, you’re going to craft the scenario you want it to be for the sake of your arguement so i don’t really have anything to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:04 AM
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That is the part I agree with you with. That was very oddly worded and i don’t know why he would pick guys at the street at night, but he’s saying the risk of physical retaliation (if a woman assaults a man for example) he may be much more willing to use physical force (WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT SAID MEN/MAN RAPING HER) to reasonably defend himself rather than in public
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:03 AM
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https://www.thehivelaw.com/blog/can-a-man-hit-a-woman-in-self-defense/ If a woman is hitting a man, it is considered an active threat and you are allowed to use reasonable force to stop said threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:59 AM
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Shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:56 AM
3

Okay so woman acts rude and he’s talked about social consequences and you immediately go to: “ah yes clearly he’s talking about raping us in retaliation” Honestly, quite a few of the women on here are completely disingenuous and delusional when it comes to any sort of argument like this, so i don’t ignore them, i’m just not going to take most of it seriously unless there’s an actual argument laid out other than, “rape”. I get why the whole women would not want to be close to random group of men …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:55 AM
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Legally speaking a man defending himself would not be in the wrong, and why do you keep insisting that this proportion has to be so damaging that it severely harms her? If she’s trying to knock him unconscious for example i expect the man would incapacitate her to stop her, that is not unreasonable. If a woman gives a guy a firm slap most guys would not do anything, hence why they know they can do it, but a firm slap back is defending yourself. You keep acting like you have to go mach five blast…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:52 AM
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Physical retaliation is not in fact illegal in a lot of the US if you are defending yourself within reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:50 AM
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I see you left out the physically assaulting part, of course. You just go straight to twisting my argument like you’ve been doing this entire time. Actually have never physically harmed a woman in my life because i don’t beat women? also personal attack so reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:49 AM
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Actually in the majority of US states that is not against the law, try again. Defending yourself is a right in the vast majority of the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:47 AM
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If a woman assaults a man, he has the right to defend himself, there is no rationalizing it, that’s the law. If a woman slaps a man he proceeds to beat the shit out of her then he will be arrested which is the right thing in that case. It’s called proportional retaliation, if you are assaulted, you can defend yourself within reason, full stop. It has absolutely zero to do with me “wanting to put my hands on a woman” and everything to do with equality and being able to defend myself if attacked b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:46 AM
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He lists one example. It’s not in bad faith at all, if a woman assaults a man, especially in public, often there is no expectation of retaliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:44 AM
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Oh know i’m 100% arguing for proportionality but you already know that, you’re just choosing to ignore it. Women should not go around assaulting men if they don’t want to be in physical confrontations, it’s as simple as that. The basic reality is that men do in fact have the right to defend themselves if assaulted, even by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:43 AM
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And you have to swing for a home run to break a woman’s jaw? You are arguing in such bad faith it’s hilarious. It’s called proportional retaliation, you don’t have to break a woman’s face if she slaps you, a firm slap back is not inappropriate. You just keep going to the extremes to make yourself sound more reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:42 AM
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He’s talking about rude behavior/women physically assaulting a guy and expecting zero response because she’s a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:40 AM
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Nope, it’s called equality, if women don’t want to be slapped back, don’t slap someone. Nowhere did I say a man should slap/hit a woman first. You keep spinning that narrative boyo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:38 AM
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Not what was said, you’re literally fucking making up your own story, if a woman slaps a guy, she may be slapped back. If a woman punches a guy, she may be punched back. Stop with the one sided extremes lmfao. You go to, “oh girl slaps guy so he hits her” because “girl slaps guy guy slaps back” makes your entire argument stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:37 AM
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She’s not going to give you a reasonable answer. Didn’t you know? If a woman assaults you, you’re not allowed to defend yourself otherwise you’re “rationalizing hitting women”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:35 AM
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She opens herself to potentially being slapped back, that’s how equality works. Where was punched said? You’re just taking to the extreme to try to invalidate my point, try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:33 AM
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Okay, if a woman gets PHYSICALLY VIOLENT with a man, a man should be able to employ violence to defend himself. I never said if they act up men should hit them, so let’s go back to, where was that said? Yes i know most of you love delusional paranoia about every third guy on the street assaulting you, every guy here knows. Get help.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:31 AM
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Fear of consequence of poor behavior does not equal fear of rape. No one is going to fucking rape you because you act like a terrible person and don’t think social consequences apply to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:28 AM
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Okay let’s play a new game. Every time you accuse me of something i’m not advocating or saying i’ll simply ask, “where was that said?” 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:26 AM
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No these replies are in bad faith and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:25 AM
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um, if a woman gets physically violent with a man, she can expect to for a man to defend himself and also get physically violent. I’m not obfuscating anything. Women act poorly a lot of the time because they think they can get away with it. A lot of the time it has to be other women who call out their BS because most men don’t want to seem like they’re “picking on the woman half his size”. You know this is true, stop pretending you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:24 AM
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Oh my god, every single woman on this thread is going to be going full paranoia “THEYLL RAPE US” mode. Where was that said? Where was sexually violence mentioned anywhere? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:22 AM
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We all know plenty of men will get confrontational if another guy takes their hat for example. Why is it women always go to “oh men always threaten to rape us”? Come up with something new honestly, no one is saying if a woman does something a man doesn’t like he’ll rape her, completely delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:20 AM
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Strawman. That’s not what he’s saying. There are consequences for poor behavior, but where the hell did he mention rape? Tf?? It’s a little quick to start with the strawmanning.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:17 AM
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