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| 8 | “Women peak at 18, men peak at 50” does anyone else find this extremely creepy, delusional, and hypocritical?My wife's peak was when she started out earning me this year. That said every year with my wife has been a new peak of one kind or another. And I'm sure there will be another one next year. That's why a fucking married her. | /r/ExRedPill | 29/06/22 10:25 AM |
| 1 | Stop looking up "research, studies and statistics"My significant other spent years doing this and it was an absolute fucking drag. Having to listen to them drone on and on about these mind numbing minutia on the human psyche. That said, they were studying for a PhD in psychology. Don't pretend watching YouTube videos from some NEET is the same as developing your sources to max your associated IMPACT factor. Also fun fact she literally wrote a paper on hikikomori. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/04/22 02:33 PM |
| 6 | Is there a better way for men to talk about their problems outside the manosphere?So if you've ever read the standard relationship subs there are plenty of discussions involving relationships where the woman is the issue. What i suspect the difference you're looking for, and what the problem here is, is that those discussions are about individuals and their experiences, and (please correct me if I am wrong), it sounds like you are looking for discussions more broadly about the gender as a whole? Or at least, if not issues across the entire gender, issues that are common enoug… | /r/ExRedPill | 22/08/21 06:19 PM |
| 6 | Theory: Most of the Red Pill Community and the Broader Manosphere are Incels.One of the challenges is that these communities have a fairly toxic view of masculinity with regards to confrontation and discourse. Coming in with a soft hand to try and help can be perceived as "weak" or "beta" or whatever and gives them an easy route to disengage. Not saying that shitting all over them works better, but they are a tough group to engage. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/04/21 04:39 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Women sexually objectify themselves.But you're not judging her based on what she's saying, but on what she looks like. Maybe I misread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 12:55 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Women sexually objectify themselves.Yea if they are kind of shy or a nerdy asian girl or something. Why asian? This seems like a charicature dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 12:38 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Women sexually objectify themselves.Because she isn't showing anything about her as a person Lol, should be she wearing a sandwich board with her credentials on it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 12:33 AM |
| 7 | 80% of rapists with anger disorders, 70% of gang members, and 85% of youth in prison come from single mother homesThe very idea you think someone needs to prove feminism wants to reduce violence against women is a bit ridiculous. What does this have to do with your presupposition of causality? Your presume that single motherhood, being raised by a single mother, causes an increase in violence. That is the error of your assumption. What you replied with is not an assumption needed to make the claim either way. It is however clearly a bias that was necessary for you to take a correlation and make a huge leap … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/17 12:26 AM |
| 3 | 80% of rapists with anger disorders, 70% of gang members, and 85% of youth in prison come from single mother homesHey man, report away. If that part of the argument is against the rules then so be it. Are you going to respond to any of the rest of my statements? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/17 11:00 PM |
| 6 | 80% of rapists with anger disorders, 70% of gang members, and 85% of youth in prison come from single mother homesGiven the data, should women be discouraged from becoming single mothers? This question presupposes causality. Which is what I was criticizing. So you didn't just ask a question, you made a statement. Given that feminism wants to reduce violence against women, does supporting single motherhood make a contradiction? (80% of angry, violent rapists are raised by single mothers) Again, you presuppose causality. Personal attacks are against the rules here. You must be new here. 1) I attacked your arg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/17 10:38 PM |
| – | 80% of rapists with anger disorders, 70% of gang members, and 85% of youth in prison come from single mother homesSo, you take a really undertermined model that is remarkably confounded, and pull out a conclusion that seems to very nicely fit your worldview. And you blame "political correctness" for the criticism? Bro. Do you even science? I'm guessing you're one of those "STEM MASTER RACE" folks that couldn't even tell me the difference between a type 1 and a type 2 error. Science isn't your fucktoy. There are rules. People can get away with bending them at times to fit an agenda but your argument here is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/17 10:25 PM |
| 12 | 80% of rapists with anger disorders, 70% of gang members, and 85% of youth in prison come from single mother homesThis is really bad science. Not the stats. But your interpretation of them. This is the definition of an underdetermined model. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/17 08:23 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Although most men have a higher sex drive than women, most do not have 'sadistic extreme rape fantasies' like women do.From what I've seen online I would argue that a LOT of men like that kind of stuff. Not exactly unpopular material. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 05:10 PM |
| 2 | CMV: A woman's high n-count has at least 5% relevancy to her fitness for a relationship.And that is a fine opinion. Frankly I tend to judge people's morality largely on how they behave sexually, although not necessarily in the "traditional" sense, as well as how they treat others in a more general sense. So what you're saying is that different people have different values when it comes to finding a relationship/partner? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 07:27 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A woman's high n-count has at least 5% relevancy to her fitness for a relationship.How is what I mentioned above an illogical way of thinking? Because you're approaching human interaction as some kind of template filling exercise. People are incredibly complex and subtle, and their relationships are even more so. For one woman/man pair a high n-count may account for massive incompatibilities. For another pair it may have zero effect. And for another pair it may actually be a positive. This is so much at the core of what is wrong with RP thought, the idea that relationships are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 07:21 PM |
| 0 | Q4All: Do you think Rowling's doctor husband would have married her, despite her being 6 years older and a single mother, had she not been rich? So does money/status sometimes help a woman's SMV?Lol yeah cause no men are attracted to power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 06:56 PM |
| 7 | Blue Pill AlphasNo I know, I get that, it's not just that it's systematic. It's like...I dunno...what someone who played a lot of video games would think actual rigor looks like? I can't put my finger on it. It looks like an overly pedantic forum post on a wow forum where someone breaks down the different phases of a raid boss fight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/16 09:18 PM |
| 7 | Blue Pill AlphasI dunno, highly systematic? I mean it sounds like he's talking about different methods of evolving a fucking Pokémon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/16 09:08 PM |
| 14 | Blue Pill AlphasReading this stuff sometimes feels like people are applying video game logic to real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/16 06:25 PM |
| 1 | CMV: "Don't talk about fight club" not because people don't want you to improve, because The Red Pill is creepy as Hell.What about that Lost Prophets guy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/16 10:18 PM |
| 2 | Do men really like smart women?Some men look for a woman who will challenge them. Some men don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/16 10:16 PM |
| 2 | What is behind the recent push to rebrand Marilyn Monroe as plus sized?Wtf does this have to do with RP/BP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/16 10:51 PM |
| 8 | Q4women. Would you exchange fidelity for a higher smv maleThis thread highlights the choice most women have to make: Commitment from a low(er) SMV beta; or an alpha who gives you what he wants to, when he feels like it. Most women have to make the choice. That's a false dichotomy that really says a lot about the person making it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/16 07:51 PM |
| 2 | Does anyone else find that TRP lacks clarity?It seems we're in agreement about attractiveness, so I'll drop that. And I'll concede status for the moment. Instead let's look at the statement on divorce. So, first off the 60-80% stat for women filing for divorce has some issues that are outlined in a 538 article, but it's not that far off, so let's go with it. The problem is that the issue isn't divorce itself, or who initiated it, but a specific kind of divorce. In fact it would be ironically absurd to accuse a wife of being hypergamous for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/16 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone else find that TRP lacks clarity?For income sure, I'll agree with that (although it's a fairly complex issue with a lot of differing conclusions). But attractiveness? I'm pretty sure that's similar on both sides. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/16 04:47 PM |
| 4 | Does anyone else find that TRP lacks clarity?I'm not so sure about the evolutionary side of things, but the practice of men "trading in for a newer model" is fairly well established. The value system that leads to the infidelity/relationship switch may be different between women and men, but I'm pretty sure it's not uncommon for men to leave their partners for a partner with a higher percieved value. Ed: and if your ideas based on evolution lead to a different conclusion, maybe you should reconsider your assumptions? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/16 04:15 PM |
| 4 | Does anyone else find that TRP lacks clarity?Hypergamy is not a particularly fuzzy concept - the idea of women ditching less attractive, lower-status guys for more attractive, higher-status guys is pretty much vindicated scientifically. I have to ask, what about this is specific to women? Isn't this true for men as well? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/16 03:34 PM |
| 5 | CMV - Men are losers. Women aren't.And this is exactly why women are almost never interesting and almost never accomplish anything worthwhile. That...seems like a fairly broad statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/16 03:34 PM |
| 0 | Rape Hysteria only exists on western college campuses and as soon as youre an adult all of this is mootIt's a good thing for his sex life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:31 PM |
| 6 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?I mean honestly if you've really actually tried all the things you've mentioned, and I mean really honestly tried, then maybe it's time to consider divorce. The issue though is that a lot of people think they're communicating when they're really just talking past each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 03:17 PM |
| 2 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?That age range isn't the best example of what real relationships are like though. Most men in that period are either still in school or very early on in their careers so there aren't many expectations of economic stability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 03:09 PM |
| 5 | What percentage of core red pill teachings do you think are correct?The point is that single mothers actually experience a pretty severe consequence for their actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 05:50 PM |
| 3 | What percentage of core red pill teachings do you think are correct?Women are as children in there reduced consequences for their actions when compared to men. That one doesn't really jive with your first one though does it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 05:03 PM |
| 2 | Do you see TRP as a cause of a problem or a symptom of a deeper problem?I see it as both. It starts as a symptom of a larger problem, namely men feeling disenfranchised and disilusioned and left behind etc, but I think it also reinforces negative and dangerous belief systems as well that only make the problem worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/16 03:32 PM |
| 3 | Why do Blue-Pillers have an intense hatred for older men dating younger women?Can I ask you something? It's just sort of confusing me. As a 19 year old why did you ask this question? Not only are you not an "older guy" (you can fuck/date 18 year olds with impunity, and I hope you're doing it as much as you can), but according to the whole "sexual marketplace" concept you should actually be against older guys hunting girls your age right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/16 01:33 AM |
| 4 | Why do Blue-Pillers have an intense hatred for older men dating younger women?No offense bro, but you're 19. How many 35 year old women do you even know? Not that you aren't wrong. Not every 35 year old woman has matured. Similar with men. But more of them have matured by 35 than 18. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/16 12:21 AM |
| 4 | Why do Blue-Pillers have an intense hatred for older men dating younger women?You mistake quality with quantity. For one you could have only had 5 partners but spent years fucking them regularly and developing your sexual experience. But more than that it takes real emotional maturity to get good at sex. You need to have the empathy to experience it through their skin to make it better for them. And you need to have enough maturity to know how to be honest in bed. I can guarantee you that there are plenty of 18 year olds with 50 partners who think that screaming like a po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/16 12:07 AM |
| 3 | Why do Blue-Pillers have an intense hatred for older men dating younger women?If you think age is a defining factor on how many dicks someone's taken I have some a bridge to sell you. And fwiw, the whole n-count thing is the most transparently insecure nonsense I've seen on TRP. When I'm with a woman I don't spend my time obsessing about her exes. I spend my time making her forget them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/16 11:56 PM |
| 5 | Why do Blue-Pillers have an intense hatred for older men dating younger women?I don't hate older men who date younger women. I feel bad for them. Throwing your dick around is one thing, but actually dating an 18 year old when you're 35 or something...that's just kind of sad. For a well adjusted 30 something there is very little attractive, relationship wise, about an 18 year old. They have incredibly limited life experience and will have little in common with you. They have incredibly limited sexual experience and rarely know what to do in bed, or how to do it well, and a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/16 11:53 PM |
| 2 | Is it fair to judge some people for making different choices in life?The lack of self awareness in his post is fairly interesting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/16 02:24 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about people who don't want kids?My point is that even without SS the government will help you in retirement. The government will provide infrastructure that will be incredibly important for when you are no longer working. Even if all your retirement savings are handled privately they won't be worth a damn if the government oversight of the necessary markets collapses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/16 03:01 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about people who don't want kids?At some point you won't be working. And at that point you will still be receiving benefits from the government. Be it through SS or Medicare or simply in there being repairs done to the highways. Thinking that the world can stop when you do is incredibly shortsighted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/16 02:40 AM |
| -1 | What do you think about people who don't want kids?It may or may not be a thing when we are older. But it will be the next generation that funds the entitlements and government investments that we will need when we retire, whatever form it takes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/16 08:35 PM |
| -1 | What do you think about people who don't want kids?Of course. Not planning for retirement because of misguided youthful cynicism is incredibly irresponsible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/16 07:38 PM |
| 3 | What do you think about people who don't want kids?Hey, guess who pays for social security when you retire? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/16 05:25 PM |
| 0 | What causes men to become RP? How did TRP come to be in the first place?A few questions. How long have you been doing it for? How much porn and gaming were we talking about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/16 12:05 AM |
| 2 | What causes men to become RP? How did TRP come to be in the first place?This sounds like a TOTALLY unbiased description of the two groups. Look man. BP is coming from a ton of different angles. Many of us disagree on many different levels about what's right or wrong with TRP. Me personally? I think there are many fundamentally troubling issues that men these days have to deal with, and I don't think they're being properly addressed. Here's the one place that BP does agree. Whether there really are issues or not, BP agrees that TRP is a fucking terrible philosophy fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/16 12:01 AM |
| 2 | Is a Woman who has been raped still a "Virgin"?I am really curious why you are asking this. Ed: never mind. Reading some RP replys here. Holy fuck some of you guys are creepy as fuck. Like expert level gross. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/16 02:46 AM |
| 2 | Does the link between TRP and racism concern you, and do you think it is and will be detrimental to the 'manosphere' as a whole?I don't think you know what "confounding" means in a statistical/scientific sense. Your misuse is actually fairly ironic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/16 12:15 AM |
| 4 | Does the link between TRP and racism concern you, and do you think it is and will be detrimental to the 'manosphere' as a whole?It's a fairly helpful example for anyone else in the thread asking for evidence of this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/16 06:13 PM |
| 0 | The end goal of SJWs is to replace religion (which is currently dying painfully) as the new unquestionable rules of moralityWhat the fuck does this have to do with RP philosophy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/16 01:08 AM |
| 2 | CMV: You won't ever know a girl's N-count unless she wants you to know.There are none so blind that won't see. Uhm...should I believe this quote is as reliable as your other references? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/16 05:15 AM |
| 3 | CMV: You won't ever know a girl's N-count unless she wants you to know.I also don't see the N-count of male partners being addressed either, which is quite telling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/16 01:46 AM |
| 3 | CMV: You won't ever know a girl's N-count unless she wants you to know.Dude that is not a reliable source. If you could link to the Teachman paper then maybe, but without that I have a very hard time accepting the analysis presented in that blog at face value | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/16 01:45 AM |
| 5 | Is Deadpool an Alpha/Chad ideal to aspire towards? (WARNING SOME SPOILERS)Oh come on man if we're going to apply that standard of realism across the board then TRP would be decimated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/16 03:21 AM |
| 1 | I think the saddest part of the Redpill vs Blue pill argument is that the Redpill is motivated by the fact that hetero men need female affection to feel normal, and the Bluepill mocks them for this.What you're saying is that you know it works because there are willing adherents. . That's not what I said at all. . Hypothetically, if BP is right and TRP is wrong, TRP will die by itself because the stuff doesn't work. ... But if TRP doesn't die, it's because it works. . Maybe I misunderstood you, but it seems pretty clear here. You understand a straw man fallacy, good (Ed: actually you don't but at least you're familiar with the term). How about we look at another. It's called an argumentum a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/16 08:07 PM |
| 1 | I think the saddest part of the Redpill vs Blue pill argument is that the Redpill is motivated by the fact that hetero men need female affection to feel normal, and the Bluepill mocks them for this.What you're saying is that you know it works because there are willing adherents. That is not the measure of success for something. Many terrible philosophies or schools of thought or whatever had plenty of adherents and many still do. Does that mean they are fundamentally sound at the time they had the adherents? To this day there are still many people who believe in a flat earth, in fact this belief has been around longer than TRP. Does this mean that flat earth is a more sound philosophy than… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/16 06:04 PM |
| 0 | I think the saddest part of the Redpill vs Blue pill argument is that the Redpill is motivated by the fact that hetero men need female affection to feel normal, and the Bluepill mocks them for this.Now take a step back and apply that logic to Scientology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/16 04:58 PM |
| 1 | What do Red Pill men bring to the table (and what do you expect women to offer)?Opening a penis is generally not recommended according to webmd | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/16 04:00 AM |
| 2 | TRP knowledge appears sound on the SMP but the vast majority of TRP dudes/leaders don't appear to be at a high SMV level. Will this lead to anger/false bravado like BP describes?i think the great explicators of ideas are rarely also the great practitioners Except for in an actual science. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/15 04:28 PM |
| 15 | Why does PPD believe that most TRP 'field reports' are exaggerated/fake?Ok, a few points. First off bragging about anything is a good indication of insecurity and not actually getting/having what you claim to have. Like people who brag about how much money they have usually don't actually have it. To be fair, these "field reports" aren't supposed to be bragging, it's supposed to be anecdotal evidence of different styles of game and how they did/didn't work, but human nature is an everpresent underlying force at play here and it seems far more likely that this is the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/15 08:32 PM |
| 6 | CMV: There is more of a "vilify men and yell rape culture" than there is a "rape culture"The stuff about the school and whatnot covering it up is really the worst of it. Compare that to child abuse. Even the hint of there having been a cover up (agree or disagree with that assertion) caused a MASSIVE shakeup at Penn State. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/15 08:15 PM |
| 3 | CMV: There is more of a "vilify men and yell rape culture" than there is a "rape culture"So like if you beat someone at a game or whatever and you said "I just bad touched you like your uncle did when you were 7", that would be considered kind of fucked up right, because joking about child abuse isn't cool. But with "I totally raped you" it's not as big a deal because rape isn't taken as seriously. That's my take on it at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/15 08:13 PM |
| 1 | Can you argue that TRP doesn't work?what exactly would you define as "the blue position"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/15 01:31 AM |
| 1 | Can you argue that TRP doesn't work?ah ok. Well, I mean there are definitely men who have abandoned RP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 11:19 PM |
| 1 | Can you argue that TRP doesn't work?You understand BP isn't actually a group right? People there don't subscribe to any particular ideology. People have pretty broad POVs there. The best you can get for grouping them is that they aren't RP. That's it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 07:00 PM |
| 2 | Can you argue that TRP doesn't work?And before I started learning the ancient arts of healing powers uh...wut? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 06:11 PM |
| 6 | Can you argue that TRP doesn't work?Every RPM has been a BP male, and has been an RP male... Every bloop has only ever been a bloop. That's a pretty big assumption you've got going there Cotton | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 06:10 PM |
| 3 | Can you argue that TRP doesn't work?Ah ok, rhetorical question then, my bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 04:40 PM |
| 4 | Can you argue that TRP doesn't work?The point I was making is that both sets of anecdotes are ultimately meaningless because like you said the TBP stuff could be made up and so could the TRP stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 04:39 PM |
| 5 | Can you argue that TRP doesn't work?Nothing. Because there's no magic keys to unlock every woman's panties. It's something you have to earn on an individual basis. There is no game genie code for this shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 04:12 PM |
| 7 | Can you argue that TRP doesn't work?First you need to define "works". Can it get you laid? Sure, I don't think anyone is denying that. Is that the only metric of success? Because if so then you would have better luck just tackling drunk bitches. But that is of course super immoral, so then do we define "works" within some moral framework? Like it can't cross certain ethical lines? Also, how do you define proof? I don't think either side has any real claim to proof one way or another. TRP may feel they are closer to having evidence… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 04:10 PM |
| 1 | Thought experiment for BP: If Elliot Rogers and that Oregon guy got unlimited access to pussy, do you honestly believe they'd still shoot up places?Honestly I think if he had access to an unlimited amount of pussy he would have found some other grievance and still gone on and killed people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/15 04:42 PM |
| 49 | Western men are forgetting how much they suck, tooJesus Christ you people need to socialize more. You have these remarkably fucked up myopic generalizations on people that are laced with more cynicism than a high school goths views of the world. And the best part is you call this insight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/15 12:59 PM |
| 2 | Thought experiment for BP: If Elliot Rogers and that Oregon guy got unlimited access to pussy, do you honestly believe they'd still shoot up places?Yeah, good chat. OP has some issues that he needs to look into though which is a bit concerning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/15 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Thought experiment for BP: If Elliot Rogers and that Oregon guy got unlimited access to pussy, do you honestly believe they'd still shoot up places?FYI I'm a dude, just saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/15 01:23 AM |
| 2 | Thought experiment for BP: If Elliot Rogers and that Oregon guy got unlimited access to pussy, do you honestly believe they'd still shoot up places?Yeah hell I'll admit empathize may not have been the right word here, but the original author I was replaying to said he totally understood why someone went on a shooting rampage. That shit aint right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/15 01:18 AM |
| 1 | Thought experiment for BP: If Elliot Rogers and that Oregon guy got unlimited access to pussy, do you honestly believe they'd still shoot up places?You linked to an article which was based (very poorly) on the article by James Prescott that I linked (ed: quoted. I didn't link it). Am I missing something here? How is THE ORIGINAL SOURCE unrelated? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/15 01:15 AM |
| 2 | Thought experiment for BP: If Elliot Rogers and that Oregon guy got unlimited access to pussy, do you honestly believe they'd still shoot up places?Criminologists have long known that unmarried young men commit the bulk of the crimes in the United States You chose to interpret this as saying being unmarried/sexually unfulfilled leads to violence. It also could be that there is a deeper issue at play here, like poor socialization, that leads to both. Also, fwiw, the guy this article quotes concludes with the following: For all of the above reasons, I have concluded that Western Civilization and other similar human civilizations that are char… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/15 12:14 AM |
| 2 | Thought experiment for BP: If Elliot Rogers and that Oregon guy got unlimited access to pussy, do you honestly believe they'd still shoot up places?Maybe empathize isn't the right word. I can empathize with feelings of isolation and helplessness that ER and the others felt. But that doesn't mean I can "totally understand why Elliot and all those other guys did what they did". There is a HUGE difference between those statements. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/15 12:05 AM |
| 11 | Thought experiment for BP: If Elliot Rogers and that Oregon guy got unlimited access to pussy, do you honestly believe they'd still shoot up places?Why would you say that? You don't think I can empathize with RPs? I understand the motivation behind TRP. Shit man I was there myself at some point (motivation wise at least). Just because I vehemently disagree with the methods RP uses doesn't mean I don't understand their goal. And truth be told I really do empathize with you guys. I may laugh at some of the more ridiculous statements that are made, but I really don't agree with the some of the shaming TBP does because I find it just reinforces… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 09:32 PM |
| 4 | Thought experiment for BP: If Elliot Rogers and that Oregon guy got unlimited access to pussy, do you honestly believe they'd still shoot up places?Perhaps you are relying on other people too much to define yourself. One of the (very) few things I took from Ayn Rands writings and have never forgotten is the value of a self-sufficient ego. Never let others define you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 07:28 PM |
| 18 | Thought experiment for BP: If Elliot Rogers and that Oregon guy got unlimited access to pussy, do you honestly believe they'd still shoot up places?Hey dude if you can seriously empathize with what those two did then, and I say this with all sincerity, you should consider talking to a therapist. It seems like you may have some serious anger issues, and they can help with that. Forget the whole red/blue/purple nonsense for just a second, that's really not a healthy mindset. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 07:25 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Are modern American women of lower relationship value than women of the past?Baseball is my favorite game to watch live. It's feels so much more acceptable to get blackout drunk there then at a basketball game. Much more relaxed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 07:11 PM |
| 5 | Creating Relationships From Thin Air? "Be Nice, Be Yourself"A couple points. -go talk to people, harder than it sounds. Yeah, it is. It's fucking hard to meet people. It's hard to find (good) friends. I will not deny that for a second. There are lots of newer things these days that help with that, like Events and Adventures. But still, it's difficult. People will reject you. People will disappoint you. But sometimes people will surprise you in a positive way. And at the end of the day the only way you can make it to those positive surprises, meeting frie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 06:56 PM |
| 33 | Thought experiment for BP: If Elliot Rogers and that Oregon guy got unlimited access to pussy, do you honestly believe they'd still shoot up places?It's not really a fair question because the issues are not independent. It's not just the case that the reason he shot up a school was because he was sexually frustrated, it's also the case that the reason he was sexually frustrated was tied to deeper causes that are also responsible for him being someone who would shoot up a school. Put another way, those guys were both severely mentally ill. And women can detect that. And they will avoid those guys. So for them to be in a position where they a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 06:40 PM |
| 3 | Do you criticize women who idolize or reward bad behavior in men as vehemently as you criticize TRP?Well, I'm not a woman so I try to limit my judgement of their actions. As a man though, I feel fully capable of seeing TRP for what it is and criticizing it. Don't take this as me "giving women a pass" or whatever. The truth is I just don't care as much about women and their issues as I do men. It's actually fairly sexist now that I think about it. Let women work on women problems. I'll work on men problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/15 06:31 PM |
| 2 | Would you support divorce laws that favored whichever spouse was more loyal, regardless of gender?It's almost like they've taken complex relationships and oversimplified them to the point of absurdity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/15 02:42 PM |
| -1 | Does TBP really believe that ALL of the guys on TRP NEVER get girls, EVER?or they use some RP techniques but simply avoid spelling it out as to not repel the BP women they try to attract I think this is actually not far off. The difference between us and RP though is that we appreciate the value of a little game and whatnot without going completely overboard and joining a cult that stickies a post calling 99.9% of single mothers scum of the earth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/15 11:00 PM |
| 3 | Does TBP really believe that ALL of the guys on TRP NEVER get girls, EVER?Seriously, spend some time and try and figure out a way you could post a comment about the benefits of sincerely complimenting your SO without coming across incredibly manipulative or referring to her as a "plate", without getting downvoted to oblivion. If you can find one post like that with positive upvoted I honestly might slightly change my view on that sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/15 10:55 PM |
| -2 | Does TBP really believe that ALL of the guys on TRP NEVER get girls, EVER?Dude I sub to BP. I am incredibly sex positive to the point of possibly being a sex addict. I can't stand limp dicked college freshman Marxists. Californication is one of my favorite shows. Apparently when I took a survey I ended up being closely aligned with Donald Trump (I really did some soul searching after that one...) Maybe I'm an outlier, I dunno, but honestly I feel like TrP is a lot more "clustered". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/15 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why is TBP not an actual alternative to TRP? Was it always this way?So let's start with what my previous statements said: 1) taking generalized statements and using them to develop strict rules for indivudual interactions 2) taking broad research and then expanding on it well beyond the original intent of the research to fit your specific belief system Both of those apply in spades to TRP appropriation of Buss's work, which actually seems quite fascinating. For instance, I don't see any mention of a females desire to ride the cock carousel with a bunch of chad t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/15 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why is TBP not an actual alternative to TRP? Was it always this way?We'll help me out here. You think that none of the ideas in TRP are backed up by experts with PhDs? Yes. This is exactly what I believe. I do not believe a single licensed psychologist would ever back what you guys say. And I think the lack of awareness about basic scientific princiPles in TRp is pretty severe (and) ironic sometimes. You guys rely almost entirely on anectdotes or "cult of personality" experts like Roosh (or whoever the new less rapey equivalent is) who have no real claim to expe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/15 05:28 PM |
| 0 | Q4BP: Why is TBP not an actual alternative to TRP? Was it always this way?Do you guys have peer reviewed literature in your sidebar? I must have missed that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/15 01:24 PM |
| 0 | Q4BP: Why is TBP not an actual alternative to TRP? Was it always this way?Self help books are by and large complete crap. Counseling is not (I can ony speak to individual therapy I don't have any professional experience with couples counseling), but it's not really based on generalizations and what not. They do significant studies of individualized interventions to see how they work. The development of assessments may be generalized, but the interventions are not. Also, counseling is not the best example because it has really only recently (like the last 20-30 years o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/15 12:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why is TBP not an actual alternative to TRP? Was it always this way?Normalization and generalizations work great when you're talking at the sociological level. Far less well at the individual level, and that's where TRP makes it's mistake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/15 01:51 AM |
| 2 | Q4BP: Why is TBP not an actual alternative to TRP? Was it always this way?You do have a point that TBP just laughs a people and that doesn't really help. There are some slightly more constructive posts, like some of the ones in the sidebar. Some of it is just about exposing just how far off the rails some of these guys are, like some of the ones at redpillortaliban (where you try to guess if it was said on the red pill or by the Taliban. They were all said on the red pill.). I really am sorry to hear that you have had such a hard time of it with the ladies, people don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/15 08:42 PM |
| 4 | Q4BP: Why is TBP not an actual alternative to TRP? Was it always this way?Well, I guess I have to ask, what would it take to convince you? I know my wife loves me and have many stories to prove that. Many many people would tell you that women are capable of love, would that do it? My guess is that you need more personal experience and exposure to it to really appreciate it's existence. The problem is that you have already sort of decided a viewpoint based on what seems to be a recent and singular negative experience with a woman, and because of that you are now settin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/15 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why is TBP not an actual alternative to TRP? Was it always this way?How many times have you been in love? (Not being sarcastic or trying to be a dick here) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/15 05:39 PM |
| 9 | Q4BP: Why is TBP not an actual alternative to TRP? Was it always this way?The problem is that you think there's some kind of dichotomous answer. Real successful relationships, there is no single answer to how you create them. They are complex. They require immense amounts of work. There is no single fix. There is no alternative/counterpoint to TRP. People in TBP probably wouldn't agree on how to manage a relationship. The only facet of relationship complexities they can agree on is that TRP is a terrible way to go about it. To put it another way, you're asking us to p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/15 05:36 PM |
| 3 | Do women really just randomly stop maturing after a certain age ?Because you're complaining about the priveleges experienced by severely impoverished women while you enjoy priveleges that are fed to you on a silver platter. In your mind this is internally consistent because you fight for the impoverished men to get them priveleges they've lost to women, but have you ever considered that the priveleges they've lost to you are far more damaging? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/15 11:23 PM |
| 4 | Do women really just randomly stop maturing after a certain age ?Wait. Aren't you the dude who's rich dad pays for all his shit and gives him money whenever he texts? Like you were born into money and don't support yourself....and you're talking about how poor women are priveleged. Wow dude. You got more issues than a news stand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/15 11:03 PM |
| 7 | Do women really just randomly stop maturing after a certain age ?Questions like this just kind of baffle me. Why would you think this is true? Of course women can still emotionally develop as they age. Edit: wow. Ok so apparently based on other replies this is a REASONABLE QUESTION to some of the redpills here. Seriously wtf is wrong with you guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/15 03:04 PM |
| 1 | Why are most RPillers so sure there is no other way?No. And I have to ask, is your narrative based on any personal experience? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Why are most RPillers so sure there is no other way?I'm married and have been with my wife for almost a decade. What exactly is your experience? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Why are most RPillers so sure there is no other way?There was never a patriarchy that would say things like No lay? No pay. No sex? No checks. No fucks? No bucks. Maybe for the ultra-elite, but that kind of logic would only apply to concubines. Not spouses. Patriarchy of the past was remarkably sexually stifling for both parties. Can't believe anyone would want to go back to that. I enjoy keeping my dick wet, I thought that was at least one view I shared with TRP. I really can't figure out what you actually want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/15 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Why are most RPillers so sure there is no other way?Ok sure. Both partners should have stuff protected in as much as it can be. You'll never get back your time. And there are other more ephemeral things that will be lost, but for the things that can be protected sure, let's see them protected. Thats a far cry from your desire for whore island. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/15 09:36 PM |
| 0 | Why are most RPillers so sure there is no other way?Well yeah: go meet a nice girl who is sexually appealing, have sex with her and spend time with her to see if you really care for her, and if it makes sense get married all while maintaining a good balance of power between partners through consistent communication of each partners wants and needs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/15 09:26 PM |
| 1 | Why are most RPillers so sure there is no other way?So you want us to go back to the good old days where women were domestic. But you also want them to be as promiscuous as today. Except for money. I think what you need is a one way ticket to whore island. Seriously though. Back in the good old days men would spend a lot of money on courtship, and there was zero sex involved in that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/15 09:18 PM |
| 2 | TRPers: what's your reaction when you see a talented woman?Men arent ATTRACTED to womens accomplishments...with their boners Speak for yourself there buddy boy. Some of us like a woman that can challenge us. Bedding a woman who can equal you in merit is sexy as fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/15 08:41 PM |
| 1 | Are BPers here because they don't agree with TRP or because they think TRP is false?To be clear I'm not saying it doesn't have some superficial self improvement comments. Work out for instance. Good advice. But lets talk specifics. Why not just sort by top? First up (not counting the top one since its more meta): 1) https://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/20owa2/getting_ready_to_blackknight_a_high_school_girl/ This story is specifically about knocking down a woman. In this case a high school girl. For what? Its not to make her life better. Its not to make his life better. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/15 01:29 AM |
| 1 | Are BPers here because they don't agree with TRP or because they think TRP is false?Mich of what I have seen is focused on psychologically manipulating women to increase the relative position of the man in the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/15 11:01 PM |
| 1 | Are BPers here because they don't agree with TRP or because they think TRP is false?It's hard to know for sure the real long term value of this philosophy right now because it's relatively new. Time will tell. But my belief/observations tell me that TRP encourages weak behavior and I don't see how that will produce happy men. Not in the long run. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/15 10:49 PM |
| 0 | Are BPers here because they don't agree with TRP or because they think TRP is false?Well, it's going to be different for different people right? There's no one size fits all recipe, that's exactly the problem I have with TRP. But ultimately the goal in all of life is to be satisfied and happy though right? Red pill focuses on sexual strategy as being the solution, and theoretically it can superficially address (if you believe the rhetoric) that by dropping dem panties. But it misses a lot of stuff in the process by focusing on a superficial aspect of happiness and self satisfac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/15 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Are BPers here because they don't agree with TRP or because they think TRP is false?I won't deny it's a tempting sales pitch: "Follow these rules and watch the panties drop!" But in reality it's not unlike some fad diet. It may show some superficial gains but never addresses or appreciates any of the true underlying issues at play and doesn't lead to any meaningful self improvement. Worse still, since it doesn't actually look at the far more complex underlying issues it may put people in positions where they are harming their fundamental self value in the mistaken attempt to im… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/15 09:06 PM |
| -1 | The most common problem between TRP and TBP?That's a fantastic analogy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/15 08:59 PM |
| 3 | The most common problem between TRP and TBP?I really don't give a fuck about morality. I simply find RP lifestyle to be self-destructive for men. I mean no doubt I feel for the women who have to deal with some of this shit but at the end of the relationship she can more or less go on and live her life. But someone fully subscribed to RP philosophy could be permanently ruined. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/15 05:37 PM |
| 3 | Are BPers here because they don't agree with TRP or because they think TRP is false?I'm here because I find RP to be incredibly self destructive to men and ultimately I want to see men become stronger. TRP has always struck me as a philosophy of weakness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/15 05:16 PM |
| 5 | Banned from /r/feminism: Close-minded, irrational, unavailable to dialogue.Ok, how about this. You misused the No True Scotsmen. No true Scotsmen doesn't mean you can't say a group isn't representative. It means you can't make exceptions for the group by removing mbers of the set. Yes, r/feminism represents a portion of feminists. Some feminists are like this. Undoubtably a fact. However, No true Scotsmen is not an excuse to extrapolate that sample to the broader population. That's not even bad philosophy, that's inexcusably bad statistics/science. But it becomes bad p… | /r/MensRights | 16/07/13 09:01 PM |
| 4 | Banned from /r/feminism: Close-minded, irrational, unavailable to dialogue.If redditors tossing out No True Scotsman zingers isn't representative of actual academic philosophy then I'm not sure what is. | /r/MensRights | 16/07/13 08:43 PM |
| 3 | Age of consent should be 13 to stop the witchunt of old men claims leading female prosecuter - radical feminist group and r/mensrights outragedJust saying how often I see it on FARK. Take it how you will. | /r/MensRights | 10/05/13 04:35 AM |
| 2 | Age of consent should be 13 to stop the witchunt of old men claims leading female prosecuter - radical feminist group and r/mensrights outragedAccording to FARK it's like 9:1 women to men. | /r/MensRights | 10/05/13 04:22 AM |
| 2 | Age of consent should be 13 to stop the witchunt of old men claims leading female prosecuter - radical feminist group and r/mensrights outragedI think there were two today, so you may be right | /r/MensRights | 09/05/13 09:11 PM |
| 16 | Age of consent should be 13 to stop the witchunt of old men claims leading female prosecuter - radical feminist group and r/mensrights outragedIn fairness it's also based on how people are replying in this thread. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/13 04:09 PM |
| 3 | Age of consent should be 13 to stop the witchunt of old men claims leading female prosecuter - radical feminist group and r/mensrights outragedYou should read FARK, there's a new female teacher going to jail every week for sex with a 16 yr old. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/13 04:08 PM |
| 0 | The hell, Louis C. K.?If you've never accidentally made a woman cry like an animal then you're either a perfect man or you've never been in a serious relationship. | /r/MensRights | 29/04/13 08:40 PM |
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