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AFBB in a nutshell
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:45 PM
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However many women are attracted to men for reasons other than looks such as their status, wealth, ability to provide, etc. These things are just going to make a woman like a man more as a person, and potential husband. These things are not going to make a woman sexually attracted to a man; otherwise women wouldn't be thirsting over good looking men on TikTok but rich guys like Elon Musk, Bill Gates, etc. .
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 12:42 AM
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I can tell you in detail since this happened to me. ​ Imagine being a woman that wants to have a particular type of man, a man sought after by a lot of women that simply won't commit because he can acquire sex without it. Naturally you would get your heart broken because you are simply not enough for the guy to want to be exclusive, yet the desire for romantic affection persists. This feeling is so strong that you take a look at the men that are wiling to commit, despite the massive difference i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 05:52 PM
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Is this a question straight out of your life? If so I am already mourning for your boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 05:19 PM
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So why not do them indefinitely? They require far less effort than actual friends. Problem solved I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:25 PM
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Sex is not just sex. ​ Men decide what sex means to us. Please try telling a man with an ounce of self respect that sex is just sex and that he should just masturbate instead of desire actually being with a woman. ​ Just admit that you are unatracted to 99% of the male population and stop telling us that we should not value the things that we value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:14 AM
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Just outsource socialization through the internet or talk to an AI, that should be enough instead of talking to your friends! Just envision being in another country and fantasize about travel instead of paying all of that money and time actually doing the thing! ​ Do you see how deranged you sound?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:11 AM
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I love it when closeted lesbians, women in general, and people with low sex drives try to tell people that sex, lust, intimacy, etc., are unimportant and that they can be just ignored. ​ Sex, intimacy, lust, physical touch from a woman, are all things that can't be substituted by other means; just as much as hobbies can't be substituted by the desire for sex. ​ Sex is only important for women when it is with Chads, showcased by their reactions for when a woman can't get Chad to commit but still …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:04 AM
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How do you hope to achieve romance without desiring sex all that much? Are you going for men with low sexual drives; all other men would surely not be very keen on being with someone that could care less about the things they desire the most?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:43 PM
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There is no wrong reason to break up with someone. If you like sex and they don't, despite every other factor that might complicate a breakup, you can easily terminate the relationship. You are responsible for yourself, because no one is going to rescue you out of a situation that does not benefit you. The solution for deadbedroom people is to stop complaining and end the transaction at the spot for when the initial agreement made of steady sexual access gets revoked by a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:08 PM
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Debates about these things are actually easily solved. If someone does not want sex for whatever reason, and you do, with the reason being either impossible or not worthwile to be overcome TOGETHER, then you can just easily break up. Obviously break ups aren't as easy when you are living together and having kids, but that comes with the territory. Thus independence and the ability to discard people should they not be able to meet the commitments that were made at the beginning of the relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 07:48 PM
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Except for the FWB and ONS; thus we know that that is just women stating indirectly that their husbands and boyfriends are BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 07:37 PM
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REMEMBER THE FOLLOWING: Women will never admit to the duplicity of their dual mating strategy and their inherent superficiality. They hide their true selfs (the one they are with Chad) and will spin, lie, and deceive collectively to never EVER reveal the truth of their brutal nature. If someone does not desire sex with you it is most likely due to a lack of physical attraction. My ex-girlfriend (a relationship of 6 months) always claimed that she was stressed and depressed, stating that as her r…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:01 PM
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Yeah these social conventions women put into place are only ever meant to dissuade unattractive men further, up to a point at which these men hopefully give up entirely. Good looking men know that these rules women claim to be of importance, are nothing else than lies and deceptions in order to create a realm in which women are never ever "harassed" by the advances of unattractive men again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:45 PM
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When they realize that the guy they can have sex with will definitely not commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:18 PM
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He opened up to me to the extent that he told me that his ex used to abuse him (even tho he is 6’ feet tall) A quote from the post. I guess being below 6 feet is all about getting abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 12:32 AM
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Most people are not good, they behave only due to the laws punishing them if they choose to act against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:12 PM
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Power, or control as they say sometimes, can mean a lot of different things. In this case power is the control taken back again of the mans own biological imperative; it is the will to go against the judgement of women that deemed the man unfit to propagate his genes into the future, transforming these urges from a request into a demand. The victims of male to female rape are nothing more than a means to an end, a vessel to take control of and achieve what these men deem to be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:09 PM
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Rape is an expression of sexual aggression, influenced by the drive to fulfill the biological imperative of reproduction at whatever cost. This is the reason for why rapes decrease when prostitution has been legalized, and why women 30+ years of age only make up a single digit number in rape cases indicating that fecundity and youth are primary characteristics of the victims of rapists, with the modal value being 15 years of age. 27% and 35% of men also stated in two seperate studies examining w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 04:16 PM
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Love and lust are two different things This is simply a justification for the dual mating strategy of women. ​ If she ain't having sex with you she does not love you. The love that is valued is defined by men for men, and women for women. No man can go and tell a woman that she ought to love her man for being short, ugly, broke, bald, ethnic, etc., just as women can't tell a man that he should love his wife for being undesiring of him, ugly, fat, broke, dumb, etc. . ​ Men see love as being luste…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 07:46 AM
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This is just a justification for a dual mating strategy and women dead bedrooming men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:59 PM
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literally 10 minutes after we fucked for the first time she told me all about the sexy hot guy she hooked up with on vacation while she had deliberately had me and her wait to have sex. Jesus fucking christ dude, I am so sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:01 AM
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Because he wants a woman to be attracted to him...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:54 PM
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If a woman ain't fucking you very early on (3 date rule) than she is not physically attracted to you and trying to settle. ​ If this is the case I strongly advise any man in this predicament to just stay alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:28 AM
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Good looking men with options are not going to stick around a woman that is not having sex with them, as they have other options providing everything else the nonsexual women are giving while also obtaining the perks of sex. ​ This is something women are aware of, as women that are quick to have sex have a decisive competitive advantage. The only women that can pull off the waiting game are beyond above average themselves, or are dating loser men that would have had to wait no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:57 AM
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Being single is preferabl.e The exruciating feeling of being rejected, knowing that your S.O. finds you sexually unattractive is beyond gruesome; tearing you down ever so strongly until nothing is left of your self-esteem. This is especially brutal when you know that your girlfriend was into other guys before you, fucking them on the first date, but making you jumps through all sorts of hoops and giving nothing in return. If I want the companionship without the sex I will look for a friend, not …
/r/AllPillDebate14/06/23 06:49 PM
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Trust me, I've tried having a long term relationship several times with men I felt no raw sexual attraction to. What exactly was your thought process behind that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:12 AM
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What is not true though is that the majority of men hate high n women as people, majority of men are okay with them, they even allow them in their friend group, thats why you see many high n women saying they only have male friends, because they get rejected from girl groups a lot (it seems women frown female promiscuity more than men for some reason) ​ Because promiscous women take away the powerful weapon of sex from women that are not promiscous and demand a relationship from a man before giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 10:48 PM
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It is a big deal because no man wants to end up in a dead bedroom. What we desire most is our woman desiring us sexually, literally nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:52 PM
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Looks aren’t the biggest factor, either, at least for men. By losing weight, going to the gym, doing jaw exercises, grooming their face, dressing nice, and getting a nice haircut, you can go from a 2 to at least a 6, and if you have hobbies, discipline, and a good personality, the rest can carry you. I don’t get why people won’t put in the effort and instead sit on Reddit or 4chan complaining. That is the most delusional take I have ever seen concerning looksmaxxing. You can't get a haircut when…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:12 PM
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Also I (F26) would have casual sex with my husband if I was single and saw him at a bar, because I’m attracted to him physically. Start dating women who actually like you I am very happy for your husband. Dating women that actually like me is a rather big challenge as I outlined physical attractiveness to be the number one determinant of attraction, something I rather lack but have hopes of fixing due to surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:14 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:10 PM
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Yes both parties should be willing to submit their part of the transaction in good faith and under the condition that they actually enjoy the transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:53 PM
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Yeah all married woman be fucking on the side right? That's just what we women are, disloyal whores. Seriously, what the fuck is this argument style? You're just regurgitating borderline incel rhetoric with no regard for how little it reflects reality. I did not claim that all women are cheaters, you are interpreting my viewpoint wrongly; women are more than capable of loyalty and I never even remotely said anything about cheating. ​ What I am saying is that women are having casual sex upwards i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:26 PM
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I don't agree with him at all. I am BlackPill, not RedPill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:21 PM
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Interesting perspective, thanks for the comment!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:08 PM
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The closest examples to “attractive” mean girls I can think of , although they had the body— there was something about their faces that just gave off a disagreeable look. Attractiveness can be seperated into high (neotony) and low trust based on the androgenicity the face received. You perceive these women to be mean because your ability to accurately read their facial cues has diminished due to the emotions they display being of a constant negative, irrespective of the actuality. You also inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:41 PM
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I never said they are, but it is a significant contribution one can make towards their partner; something no one should be ashamed of since it provides benefits towards both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:13 PM
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She faked her desire pretty well early on, but the signs of disgust and comparisons to men unlike myself revealed themselves eventually in her contempt she had for me, unable to accept that she was not able to get a man of better stature, literally and figuratively, into a relationship with her while all her FWB fuckzoned her. ​ Ultimately my lack of options due to my looks are the biggest problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:55 PM
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I believe that this conclusion is able to be extrapolated towards the majority, I am aware that their are outliers. But if you choose to overcome these problems simple hope of becoming an outliers is often times not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:52 PM
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I believe that this conclusion is able to be extrapolated towards the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:51 PM
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If you need to be the most physically attractive person your partner has ever been with, you're going to be disappointed quite a lot. Yes and unrealistic expectation to have. The only thing you should be aiming for is being one of the men she was so sexually attracted to that she is willing to have casual sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:50 PM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:48 PM
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That could possibly be the ideal if her character has good qualities and since her sexual desire is then of actual sincerity; something I personally deem more than unrealistic for myself since it would require a man to be extroardinarily good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:47 PM
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It is not the act of sex itself, but being desired by a multitude of women you yourself desire and the freedom that comes with being non-committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:46 PM
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Emotional support, dealing with her family, having to spent money on her in most likely an uneven level compared to her, no variety, etc., all things that are in my opinion not worth the hassle at all if you are able to genuinly acquire regular casual sex, in regards to the benefits you can get from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:45 PM
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Probably due to aiming for a family at some point, having to endure all of the things like giving the woman emotional support, dealing with her family, etc. just so that he can fulfill his desire of reproduction; negatives that heavily outweigh the benefits in my opinion (especially since I myself would not like to have children). This problem would be fixed if he was able to do all of that without committment, something most men are not able to due to their lack of physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:42 PM
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Very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:38 PM
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I agree with a relationship being required if a family is meant to be a goal. ​ But love is rather measurable in the actions another person takes, although their are shades of grey in their of course, which can be seen when comparing a man or woman and how they treated their FWB in comparison to their now partner. My point is that a girlfriends love for a boyfriend for example does not exist if she treated her FWB better than the boyfriend, measurable in the most influential factor of all being …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:37 PM
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This is very true. ​ Relationships are a goal for women because evolutionarily they are less prone to the dangers of the world if the man sticks around, while the man gains little to nothing from a committent towards one woman if he is able to garner the attention of several.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:32 PM
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I don't believe I ever favorably argued for the wall, due to it being a false concept. Everyone ages and loses their looks through time, but most women granted with them having at least an average face, can remain hot until their 40s if they hold onto a slim figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:30 AM
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I see now that having a woman in a relationship that genuinly sexually desires you (and would theoretically have given you a FWB) is the best deal you can get, especially if you like her. Although I believe the fact still stands that an average relationship where the women is kind of "meh" or straight up repulsed by her man sexually is a worse deal than a FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:15 AM
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It is not projection but simple calculation that I was able to notice after I got burned. A good looking man has a better deal in a FWB than a average looking man in a relationship because the good looking man gets all of the benefits of a relationship for free, while the average man has to "negotiate" to a minimum in order to even get remotely the same amount of benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:08 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:07 AM
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Not having to pursue women, try to meet women, try to impress women or wonder if I'll get sex this weekend. Sex regularly with no real effort. You can have that if you are good looking. Knowing that the good looking man your girlfriend was in a FWB with got all of that for free while you have to committ is gut wrenching. Having a person who loves and supports me through difficult times. Being able to let my guard down and be myself because I have no one to impress. Up unto a certain point until …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:05 AM
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I was actually, and as a matter of fact with a woman that was not physically attracted to me that for the whole 6 months we were together refused sex, labeling her reasoning as "stress", while continously attacking my height and looks; only for me to find out that she immediately put out for her two FWB, one having known her for only two days, ultimately ending in her breaking up because of my height.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:01 AM
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Can't really get sexually aroused by someone you are not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 04:19 AM
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Neurotypical
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 05:12 PM
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Their ignorance is bred about by their solipsism. Everyone quickly forgets about the plight of others. These talking points though are a blessing in disguise; quickly revealing their lack of understanding and empathy. Women often times do the same when saying that "the bar is in hell", complaining about the personality of the men they are getting treated indifferently by; forgetting that these men are actually attractive and not representative of the male population at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:57 PM
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Can't change tens of thousands of years of evolution in a few decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:13 AM
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Honestly the better looking you are, the less obvious hints you get How exactly do you come to this conclusion? Wouldn't a higher attractiveness warrant a higher rate of obviousness in terms of hints, due to the woman being far more excited and desperate to bed the guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 01:53 PM
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Happened to me. ​ The reason, at least in my case was, that she was rejected by two FWB for a relationship which shattered her self-esteem. She then settled for me, having no sexual desire for me whatsoever and making my life a living hell for 6 months strait, leaving me to think about this for every single day for 1 1/2 years now. Generally speaking it can easily explained by their Dual-Mating-Strategy. ​ This is why you are most likely a BB, if you were not in a FWB with a woman before commiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 06:17 AM
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That's the reason why many men will know girls through their social circle or work and one day these woman start acting standoffish and cold. Well, what happened is that the women were sending signals to them who either didn't recognize them or ignored them and she FELT rejected and now hates his guts for making him feel this way. This is one of the most accurate things that I have read on this sub. ​ This even extends to their friends who will more likely than the rejected woman start disliking…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 04:16 PM
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I am aware of my pedisposition. Yet I still do not understand how others can't think like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 03:15 AM
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Yes I thought about that before.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 02:29 AM
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Emotional comfort and intimacy goes both ways I disagree that emotional comfort goes both ways. If you are a man and you start complaining about things in your life, or actually display negative emotions outside of anger, she will start to loose interest over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 07:51 PM
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Women will fuck literal criminals, guys in jail, drug addicts, rock stars who just got done fucking 10 other chicks backstage and she's number 11. But what makes these men similar? Their prime genetics = looks. Bad behaviour always gets ignored if the desired person is physically attractive, no matter if it is a woman or man. Although this effect is far larger with women when they see a man of good genetic quality, but far rarer since most men don't meet the looks threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 10:33 PM
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So your FWB is probably the one you would really like to have in comparison to your future husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 08:26 AM
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Women do approach. But they only approach men whose genetics are of high quality. Women and men that do get approached do not want ugly men to know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 11:17 AM
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Doesn't make a difference. Guys that ask girls out still get rejected if they are not physically attractive enough. Those women that still take these men are settling and will eventually resent and deadbedroom them. Effort, love, respect, admiration will not exist for these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 11:14 AM
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Amazing comment! I truly appreciate you taking the time to write that out. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:53 PM
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What you please name me some examples that you would consider as flirting?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 10:02 PM
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That age does not make you more attractive as a man. Statistically you will get fat and loose your hair, making you age worse than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 07:44 PM
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Women should ONLY date men they're attracted to You are right; and this goes for everybody. Men would not want to date a woman either that they themselves do not find physically attractive. When men complain about women only going for guys they're attracted to, they're not considering the miserable alternative. Religion, arranged marriages, men choosing their daughters boyfriends and so on were all born out of a need for sex by unattractive men that had to literally force women through societal …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:23 PM
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Ended a friendship with my second best friend because he cheated on his girlfriend. Betraying someone that close to you means that no one is safe from his selfishness. ​ Making good and moral decisions is easy, he chose to be evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:32 PM
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They should just stick with men they want to fuck immediately; everything else is her settling and thus torturing him.
/r/seduction23/10/22 05:03 PM
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It may not be actual "consequences". Often times it is a man having different values revolving around sex, viewing it as something meaningful and intimate only to be done with someone they love. They would obviously reject a woman that engaged in casual sex and does not hold the same values as he does; which is more than fine. It only becomes a problem when a man does not like it when women engage in such behaviour at all. ​ The solution to all of it is finding someone that you share the same va…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:14 AM
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Thats gonna be an expensive divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:43 PM
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Most women go into relationships with men they don't find physically attractive because there are not enough physically attractive men to go around but the need for a relationship persists, and thus begin to resent the man due to an expectation of deserving better (mostly stemming from the fact that they can get casual sex from physically attractive men but no commitment) and eventually dead-bedrooming him and cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:49 PM
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Because these men don't have to bring anything else to the table because they usually have good genetic quality. Your genetics (Looks, Height, Frame, etc.) hold by far the most value when it comes to sexual attraction and are the only deciding factor on whether she will sleep with you unless you are autistic or behave in some other extreme type of way (even though some men might get away with that). stable, healthy, sane, respectful, etc These are factors that in the case of pregnancy won't get …
/r/seduction06/09/22 04:30 AM
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And some DHT.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 11:44 PM
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Introversion is not something bad; neither is extroversion. And it is impossible to change the makeup of a persons brain and personality. You cannot force an intuitive to view the world through lived experience and the relation to the past, just as you cannot change a person that makes decisions based on what they feel is right to them making rational decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:12 PM
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"Focus on yourself" is a phrase intended to weed out men with undesirable genetics from the dating market and thus to stop wasting the time of women by talking/approaching/chatting etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 10:07 AM
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Understanding black pill fundamentals about the importance of looks, and how your attractiveness level dictates how you escalate and navigate dates How would my attractiveness level dictate how I would escalate? Wouldn't it only determine whether I escalate at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:01 PM
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Sexual selection does not care about someone being an intellectual. "Intellectualism", haircuts, showering skills, money and so on do not get passed on to the next genetic line; looks do. Every single species on planet earth mates with partners based on physical characteristics alone because they ensure the survival of the genetic line the most. Research has established countless times that humans are not different. https://www.youtube.com/c/QOVESStudio There are countless scientific studies tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:24 PM
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Thanks for the answer! Although I would warn you not to think that these ones are IOI's. laughing at my jokes, showing interest in what I’m saying I am interested in what women are saying and laughing at their jokes if I found them to be funny, but that does not mean that I am interested in them. But if you like to take some risks and initiate based on these things then go for it; some men tend not to express their interest and you might hit the mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:08 PM
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Someone with some common sense around here thank god.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:58 PM
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That depends in my opinion. If she has sex with a genetically superior man and gets a kid, she "should only be allowed" to have a daughter, since daughters are less likely not to reproduce and end the lineage. Her low genetic quality could be a death sentence for her possibly average son and make him suffer throughout his life, while him being below average will definitely end the genetic line.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:58 PM
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What types of IOI's did the men that were actually interested give you? I am a man who has no idea how to flirt with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:31 PM
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Are you just cuddle buddies now or are you trying to attempt a FWB?
/r/seduction18/08/22 07:16 PM
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You are a "Pink Pill Woman"? The Pink Pill is the counterpart to the Black Pill correct? Is there some sort of forum for it; I would love to dive into it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:15 AM
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Thanks for the answers! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 11:33 AM
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And would the husband material man, since he would be right in the middle between the seducer and "innocent-cute" guy, be less of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 05:19 AM
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What would a man look like (physically, personality) that meets the sexual desire in the extreme (the seducer)?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 02:11 AM
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I love how the Blackpill is taking over every dating-sub in existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:27 PM
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This is the best explanation regarding this topic that I have seen. I hope that the topic can now finally rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:31 PM
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The Halo- and Horn-Effect can be described as the things you just mentioned. Scientific facts cannot be argued against by feel good advice and social conditioning to make you fall in line. The absolute denial most of the people in this sub are in is mind boggling. I can guarantee you that the guys that claim their success with women here are either: Physically attractive, lying, or only engaging with physically unattractive women. Even though some incels are highly misogynistic and enacting a do…
/r/seduction09/08/22 12:16 AM
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So my best friend is a tall (6'2) good-looking dude And because he’s getting attention from Women (because of his high confidence) it’s giving you a jealous vibe Women are not capable of mind reading. They don't know your values and how you feel about yourself (unless you behave in an extreme type of way). Your face is your personality, your height is your confidence!
/r/seduction08/08/22 09:37 PM
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Wanting a fit partner though is an artifical standard not created through biological impulses since finding a woman of a higher body fat percentage is still enough to experience physical attraction for that woman. Only finding tall men attractive is a biological standard created by dimorphism and should not be lowered. Settling for a man of shorter stature, a man that the woman won't find physcially attractive, is immoral and unjust towards the man and the woman. That is why I am trying to advoc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 08:43 PM
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People can talk about friends, family, job, financial, emotional, mental, physical, and health related topics from the past but cannot talk about sexual history? How are you going to find out their values in regards to that topic? ​ A person not giving another information is ironically giving them information about their lack of transparency and openess. If a woman would not tell me about the aspects of her past that I am inquiring about I can make the informed decision to leave her, just as she…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:04 AM
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They dont like men that have to put in the work. They want a man that is naturally all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:47 PM
2

You think that a man would not replace his wife with a younger, better looking, more successful woman, if it were safe to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:06 PM
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How did that come to pass? Did you take your clothes off and they noped out or what?!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:31 AM
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Interesting to see that their are more people that believe that there are different kinds of women. "The kind of women men marry" stands out to me the most and is extremely true. Where did you find this information?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:02 PM
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Same happened to me mate! We were just Beta Bucks for them...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:48 PM
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Thank you! That is mostly what I am here for. :)
/r/seduction08/06/22 01:51 PM
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What are you talking about? She is looking good. Her looks are definitely not the problem.
/r/seduction08/06/22 04:22 AM
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That is a list of IOI's. Employing several of them in order to create a framework and pattern for him to recognize is needed though. There are strong ones and weak ones, so try finding a balance and which ones to employ in certain situations. • If you're talking to a cashier and she tells you for any reason when she gets off work, she wants you to come back. • If a girl gives you her number, on some level she is interested. Meaning she gives it to you without you prompting her first, though ofte…
/r/seduction08/06/22 04:18 AM
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AF/BB
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:16 PM
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You are pretty much screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 01:06 PM
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Social circle game is indeed everything in Germany. Cold approaching is literally a thing only foreigners do, and it is frowned upon quite heavily. Yet I would not describe germans as social people. Most of them are introverted actually, and the extroverts have the upper hand when it comes to mate choices. Only Berlin (which is not german in the slightest as said by germans) favors the extroverted people/social-lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:18 PM
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Is Berlin really that sexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:36 PM
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It is an analogy, not something to compare it to 1:1. That is the purpose of an analogy; it is sometimes easier to illustrate an abstract concept by comparing it with something concrete. Trying to argue against an analogy without adressing its fundamental purpose within its specific context makes no sense. The analogy is about values, morals, and past behaviour. You would want someone that had the same type of mileage (morals, values) as you have yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 09:53 AM
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The analogy focuses on morals, values, opinions and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 08:53 AM
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So in essence, it didn't/doesn't matter to some men if there is no attraction on the woman's part. Yes it is indeed terrifiying. ​ I wish you a very happy future. I appreciate the kind words; I wish you all the best as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 06:33 PM
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I've experienced a relationship like that myself. She was never physically attracted to me. Physcical contact was very limited, sex was completely of the table, and love non existent. Often times she would criticize my looks (which are above average actually, but not enough for her apparently). A crushed self esteem was the result of that. I do not recommend something like that. I often times wonder how anyone (especially redpilled men) could want the old times back where women would be housewiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 06:52 PM
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Yes the examples that I used were a little extreme to get my point accross. What I was trying to say is the following as I stated in another comment: "Why all of that outrage? Values people! Is this so hard to understand? Everyone values and judges things differently, which is in their very right. If you do not value the same things as the other person, then you are simply not compatible. Some people view sex as an intimate bonding experience that should not be shared lightly, and others simply …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 09:28 PM
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Why all of that outrage? Values people! Is this so hard to understand? Everyone values and judges things differently, which is in their very right. If you do not value the same things as the other person, then you are simply not compatible. Some people view sex as an intimate bonding experience that should not be shared lightly, and others simply as a funny way to pass the time. Being on the same wavelength in regards to the most fundamental part of a relationship is of the utmost importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 09:16 PM
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The past matters because it creates the present and predicts the future. Imagine having a cheater or murderer tell you that their past does not matter, and that you should judge them for what they are now in the present. Honestly, what does that even mean? What constitutes present, something that is defined only by the individual and subject to change in its very definition on a whim in order to suit a persons needs? You do not get to tell people what they should value and how they should judge …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 09:11 PM
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Trying to improve my dick game over here! What did he do that made him so amazing?
/r/seduction16/03/22 10:19 PM
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You should be ashamed of yourself! That poor husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 02:19 PM
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Why would you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 02:16 PM
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If he is uninterested because you make the first move you are not compatible. And making him pursue you will prove far more difficult than taking the reigns yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:58 PM
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This can be avoided by being the most physically attractive man she has ever had sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 04:56 PM
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Most women don't qualify for Chads and get pre-rejected without getting laid with them. Are you sure? Wouldn't most women that have a healthy BMI be considered good enough to atleast be fucked?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 04:55 PM
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It is not bullshit. Sex is pure and utter intimacy for me. There is nothing more connecting and emotional for me. That is why I wont have casual sex and expect a woman that I am dating to have never done the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 07:40 PM
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Preselection. Make it look like you have a good time together, maybe even make it seem like you are in a relationship with one of your female friends.
/r/seduction20/02/22 09:45 PM
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How are they supposed to detect that? Women ain't mind readers.
/r/seduction04/02/22 06:25 AM
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But the question who which type of man is doing the pumping and dumping. Is it one of the 10% of men, or 90% of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:16 AM
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Glad to hear that you are standing firm when it comes to your values. Same over here!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:20 AM
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If you were to make it out as ruin. Having a relationship can also be something beautiful, since not every relationship has the woman settling. Of course you never know if you are really BB in her eyes, but sometimes the risk may be worth the reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 06:10 AM
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Being a fuckbuddy sounds appealing because you know for sure that she is physcially attracted towards you. Being a boyfriend does not guarantee the same, since she may be settling for him, prostiuting herself in order to get resources, stability, emotional support and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:52 AM
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That cartoon is funny as fuck. ^^
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 07:33 AM
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Shit test maybe? Sounds like it to me. Her major intention is probably finding out whether you are insecure about it. But maybe she is just checking because she has a preference.
/r/seduction26/01/22 07:10 PM
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Men really respect other men that put in the work to look good. Putting on a descent amount of muscle and loosing weight are things that require years of effort and hard will. Since nearly every man at least tried to gain muscle, and have a basic understanding of it, they will see the amount of hard work you are willing to put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:11 AM
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But good looking men come in all sorts of personalities, intelligence levels, etc. So why would good looking men be less intelligent than ugly or average men? It has nothing to do with looks. You would not be ashamed if the guy was good looking, reliable, funny, and intelligent right? What would deter you from these men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:04 PM
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Why would you be ashamed to be ssen with an attractive dude? Wouldnt that increase the value of your social standing? That is an interesting take coming from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:51 PM
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So boyfriend material is still worse than the hookup-material?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:56 AM
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You can build and preserve a mental connection which makes the sex even more passionate and meaningful while you are having sex. You do not have to wait for that. ​ Everything is more meaningful because you’re the one who is present in their life now. You need to ask yourself why you are in their life. Sometimes they had no other choice and settle for you, something no man wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:35 AM
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This happens more often than expected sadly. The term is called "settling" and makes the women resent her man more and more over time, because she thinks she deserves better (there are multiple convoluted, unlogical reasons for that). Insecurity is quite often also a part of that. Guys that are highly sexually accomplished are more good looking and charming and thus have more opportunity to cheat and monkey-branch. This is why women settle for men below their own sexual market value, often times…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:25 AM
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Men do not necessarily want to get treated better then the previous guys. This would indicate that they themselves do not get treated the best, since it is likely that she has "treated a previous guy the best before", and that she is just telling him some sweet sugarcoated lies. Most men simply want to be treated the exact same as the other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:18 AM
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There are more than enough men that would believe you. Those that are active in casual culture are probably those that won't believe you. Quite a lot of men themselves prefer to let things develop over time, and getting to know the person better. With all things in dating, it all comes to finding someone who shares the same values and outlooks. A like minded person, who will see themselves in you will most likely believe you. Since I do not know you, it is very hard for me to ascertain why men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:13 AM
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That is the nature of dating. Everything is a leap of faith. His/her loyalty, transparency, commitment, etc. are all leaps of faith. That is what makes cheating so horrible. It breaks the trust you had in the person. And trust cannot possibly be verified, that is what makes it trust. You have faith in the other person to be good. You just have to choose well and hope that the person next to you is a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:27 PM
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They could of course (we wont have to debate about whether that is amoral), but there are other indicators that show that she is lying. Indicators that she is not interested: - Low sex drive <-- this is important. No one has a low sex drive generally. They only have a low sex drive with men they find unattractive. They won't sit their and decline sex from Henry Cavill or Harry Styles - No frequent initiation of sex - Vanilla, unenthusiastic sex - Her ex-boyfriends, fwb, etc. look better, or she …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:39 PM
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Then they should not do it at all. Having one strategy and sticking to it with every man she has been with/will be with is the only viable option unless you want to make your boyfriend despise you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:55 PM
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Reality: That is why the only TRUE relationships are either those born out of FWB, or HookUps <- having sex quickly (under the assumption that the woman plays two different strategies and treats men differently/unfairly), or those where the woman sticks to ONE SINGLE STRATEGY, either having sex quickly, or taking their time with ALL MEN she has/is seeing. If she makes you wait for sex, while others did not have to, she is not attracted to you. Men do not want a woman that put out for other men q…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:21 PM
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Dont worry too much please. Most people going into stripclubs are most of the time lowlifes and scumbags. So your sample is obviously scewed. I myself have never and will never cheat. I have even broken off my second best friendship that was going on for years, because he cheated on his girlfriend. Cheating is outright vile and despicable behaviour that should get punished severely. Unfortunately, this is rather hard to realize within the law, yet my judgement still stands. Public humiliation th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:01 PM
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That is not the problem. The problem is women making the men that they are interested in having a relationship with wait for sex, while jumping into bed early on with the guy they can't see themselves to commit to. Women need to understand that a man will never feel good about knowing that he had to buy the cow, instead of getting the milk for free. When the man finds out that his girlfriend made him wait, while others did not have to, and he will find out at some point, he will resent or outrig…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:43 AM
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But why would you wait to get to know someone? Can't you have sex while/before getting to know someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:08 PM
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You are BB. The other guys did get sex earlier than you, thus she was more attracted towards them. Women do not wait for sex with men they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:23 PM
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This is unfortunately not true. A lot of women do not desire their partners in a physical sense. Sex for these men is often times either non existent or treated as a chore.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 03:16 AM
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Thank you for the suggestions! :) Talking about those tendencies early on, the way I see intimacy, relationships, and so on is the best, probably even the only bet I have. Dating people that I have known casually for some time (not friends since it is hard to progress out of that perception of the previously established dynamic), also reduces the time it takes to feel comfortable, since an early rapport is already existing.
/r/seduction01/01/22 10:12 AM
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Months as in 1-2, and 3 as the absolute maximum. ​ The reason is me having to need a deeper personal connection in order to feel sexual attraction to another person (it is called "Demi-Sexual"). The thought of getting intimate with someone I don't know deeply enough revolts me. But as soon as that connection is made it is game on, and that quite intensly. Unfortunately, something that I can't control or circumvent in a way that leaves me satisfied. Talking about those tendencies early on, the wa…
/r/seduction01/01/22 10:07 AM
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Ah good point!
/r/seduction01/01/22 08:39 AM
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Not a single bit of advice when it comes to dating is helpful when you are unattractive. Rule #1 and #2 are everlasting.
/r/seduction01/01/22 07:07 AM
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Sex and masturbation in front of a screen are two very distinct things for me. One requires trust, comfort, and so on while the other does not. Giving in and letting her have sex with me even though I do not want it seems to be the only option I have left as it seems. Making out and kissing are things that I can get into way earlier, even within the first three meetups, but sex is of another caliber entirely.
/r/seduction01/01/22 07:06 AM
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The thing is that I need some sort of emotional connection to a woman first (the term for it is "Demi-Sexual" I believe). So the only solution for me is to have sex with her even though I do not want it? Should I not be true to myself and what I want (something that is preached in this sub all day long)? ​ I have been dwelling on this thought for a while. Sex is something highly intimiate to me and the thought of just sharing myself in such a way, with someone I do not feel comfortable/trust wit…
/r/seduction01/01/22 07:03 AM
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Spending Too Much Time Getting To Know Her/Not Being A Mystery. How am I supposed to circumvent this problem if I only feel comfortable sleeping with a woman after I have gotten to know her for quite some time? It takes a few months of dating for me until I can see myself getting sexual with a woman. Sleeping with her without her having gained any sense of trust whatsoever is not an option for me.
/r/seduction01/01/22 06:13 AM
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That could also be it, since we were dating for 6 months (3 months without a relationship just getting to know each other, 3 months in a relationship).
/r/seduction27/12/21 04:55 AM
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Yes it is incredibly unfair and mischievous. What type of crazy rationalizations do they conduct within their heads to even get this far?! We were probably viewed as "attention givers" and "safe" by them, especially if (at least in my case) they have been burned by some fuckboys in the past. It completly shattered the confidence in myself. Fortunately, I am better now! How are you doing after this deception?
/r/seduction27/12/21 02:38 AM
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Same happened to me my man! Girlfriend of 3 months never wanted to have sex with me, but did with men prior to me. Lying about your attraction towards someone else truly is something despicable isn't it?
/r/seduction27/12/21 02:13 AM
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I feel you my man. My ex-girlfriend also never wanted to get physical with me, even though I am still unsure what the reasons were entirely (comment below for more information on that).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 07:54 AM
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They are attracted to them..these women are attracted to the men who they’re with but they may not like them because the guys might not be likable. The same happened to me as the guy above. My girlfriend of 3 months (3 months of simple dating prior to that as well) never wanted to have sex with me. Physical advances were usually shot down quickly. I tried talking to her about it but she would have none of that. The relationship did not last long after that. My confidence was completely evaporate…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 07:50 AM
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Thank you! :)
/r/seduction26/12/21 05:47 AM
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What is the sub called?
/r/seduction26/12/21 05:04 AM
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Could depend on the girl, your wording and the type of relationship you two guys are pursuing.
/r/seduction21/12/21 05:53 PM
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Agree on point 8 with you. If you do not tell her that you are a virgin she will assume that you have had sex before. Since you never had sex before you will be bad, which will make her believe that you are a bad lay by default and can't improve in the future making her loose interest.
/r/seduction21/12/21 05:34 PM
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Disagree on point 8 though. When you are getting intimate with a girl and you have no experience I would tell her, because she will probably assume that you have experience which will backfire eventually. Since you have no experience you will most likely be bad. When you get intimate she will notice your lack of training, knowledge, experience and so on and just assume that you are a bad lay by default since you have had sex before in her mind. This will make her think that you are not able to i…
/r/seduction21/12/21 05:32 PM
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No? Why would you ask?
/r/seduction15/12/21 02:45 PM
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Fake it till you make it unfortunately. Even though you might not feel confident, you still have to be confident in order to have success. So in order to get that you have to just fake the confidence until faking it becomes obsolete because you have now gained actual positive results and feedback, generating true confidence within yourself.
/r/seduction15/12/21 02:22 PM
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What do you mean by luxury?
/r/seduction10/12/21 09:49 AM
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