Heoomun Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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4	Idea for the sub: post a repository of case studies of feminist policymaking that actively harms or dehumanizes men/boys Infuriating. Its like looking for a fish up a tree, the logic is so backwards and yet they're so close at the same time...🤦‍♂️	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	28/07/26 02:23 PM
7	Idea for the sub: post a repository of case studies of feminist policymaking that actively harms or dehumanizes men/boys Ah im not in Australia - but its always nice to meet a fellow psych student interested in this topic. It is so under researched, or the research that is there gets pushed aside or dismissed. Even worse, some research still puts the onus on male victims for the issues they face. But yeah, all the best on your journey, we need more people who understand these issues and can make a difference from the inside.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	28/07/26 02:18 PM
36	Idea for the sub: post a repository of case studies of feminist policymaking that actively harms or dehumanizes men/boys That article was really interesting and shocking. Im in the area of research on male victims of IPV (has a huge crossover with suicidality so I'm interested in that and mens mental health as well) and this was a helpful reference. Its insane how society and policies continuously twist the narrative to completely avoid recognising men as vulnerable and/or victims.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	27/07/26 09:49 AM
4	“Safe Spaces” = “Bigotry Encouraged Zone”. The irony is that if the roles were reversed, he would be absolutely jumped on in the comments.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/07/26 05:24 AM
3	Feeling bad and ashamed of being a man 35 yo trans dude here and same. Couldn't accept myself for damn near 23 years cause of this. Actively hated and rejected it, which I understand now as internalised misandry (strange how that happened even tho i was born female). Also - I still struggle with it so much which is why im here and find these spaces help a lot, and ive had to started letting go of feminist spaces and some mates who hold strictly feminist views for my own sanity. What drives me nuts is no one seems to realise men have …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/07/26 07:08 AM
3	Any shows/movies where toxic femininity is critiqued? That was my point.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/07/26 06:47 AM
4	Any shows/movies where toxic femininity is critiqued? Even so if they were all dumb, Kens were just dumb-er... i noticed a clear differentiation between the Kens and the Barbies in that way - Barbies were still portrayed as being smarter, more independent, able to work cohesively together, more empowered, etc.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	22/07/26 02:27 PM
4	Judging by the World Bank data, the small gender gap in poverty in developing countries (12.8% women vs. 12.3% men) likely exists at least in part (and possibly entirely) because of widows, that is, because of men's deaths. The most common type of poor family is where a man is the sole breadwinner. You're so off the mark I cant even, I dont know where to begin tbh. Everything you just said - and yet no one is fighting to keep men home, to stop sending them to their deaths. No one is fighting to end male victimisation of violence. And youve basically proved the point - all of those acknowledgements glorify "brave men who fought for their country" - how about "fucked up system that killed millions of men and shows men are disposable but no-one else is". Its men who are drafted, and people ac…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/07/26 03:18 PM
6	Judging by the World Bank data, the small gender gap in poverty in developing countries (12.8% women vs. 12.3% men) likely exists at least in part (and possibly entirely) because of widows, that is, because of men's deaths. The most common type of poor family is where a man is the sole breadwinner. Yet your comment was suggesting why female victims are acknowledged and not the men who are dead. So yes, this is the point. Neither experience of being a war victim is worse than the other, but male victims are routinely ignored, thats just basic knowledge, even though they represent a disproportionate majority. Its insane and we see this everywhere. Male victims of IPV are completely forgotten about and actively repressed and blamed, so regardless, there is a disparity there in terms of recogn…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/07/26 07:13 AM
6	Judging by the World Bank data, the small gender gap in poverty in developing countries (12.8% women vs. 12.3% men) likely exists at least in part (and possibly entirely) because of widows, that is, because of men's deaths. The most common type of poor family is where a man is the sole breadwinner. "I often say that the male and female sides of gender inequality are deeply interconnected, and this is a good illustration of that. If we want fewer poor women, we need fewer dead men. We also need a society where men do not carry most of the burden of being the family breadwinner, and women are less financially dependent on them — these are not two separate problems, but two sides of the same problem." this hit, i totally agree. Particularly the second bit - to be mutually protective and respo…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	17/07/26 10:22 AM
15	[2022] A UK-based study has failed to replicate a 2004 study reinforcing the gendered stereotype threat hypothesis in mathematics In IPV research - Johnsons Typology which basically in the original papers suggested women are the overwhelming majority of DV victims, and that men were the basically full majority of perpetrating severe coercive control and dominance such as intimate terrorism. Since then, I believe it was Hines who used the same typology but on a sample of male victims and a population based sample of men and found the exact opposite. Essentially, the paper found evidence that showed johnsons typology does no…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/07/26 04:28 PM
6	Toxic Masculinity, Healthy Masculinity, Positive Masculinity, Toxic Femininity what are they? Fuckin' stupid is what they are. Sorry but man have they been flogging that dead horse for too long. Theres just no way that femininity and masculinity can be toxic in themselves, these are neutral traits, but people can internalize harmful narratives about their gender which turns into some form of pathology about it. They're all just defense mechanisms from being brainwashed into specific stereotypes no one really fits into.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/07/26 12:20 PM
36	The boy mom vs girl dad double standard. "Because in society we are taught that only girls deserve protection" - this is the one that gets me, and the one that caused so much grief when I had to let go of it. Its woven into the very fabric of society and I just want to be deserving of protection and my life inherently cared about regardless of what gender I am.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/07/26 10:04 AM
2	Feeling disconnected Well done for speaking out about something that didnt sit right in your gut. I know its hard when you receive pushback - ive received a lot of pushback - but ultimately I always come away feeling relieved that I stuck to what I felt was right. Misandry does exist, and we need to keep calling it out if we want to start making a difference. Ps. What ive found is the more I call it out, through all the mean or invalidating responses, there was always someone (or a few people) who needed the support…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	06/07/26 07:21 PM
5	Survey of Americans finds the biggest Predictor of being a masculinist is being a male feminist Same	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	06/07/26 08:54 AM
1	Men and Boys Were Constantly Left Out of Workers’ Rights in Ontario Im from Ontario (don't live there anymore though) and had no idea... damn thats shocking.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	04/07/26 04:04 PM
18	The response, after I posted this in a subreddit that calls out sexism and things that are needlessly gendered This is what i came here to say.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	01/07/26 07:25 AM
3	How do you deal with misandry while learning about feminism I didn't deal with it really - it caused trauma which led me to reject who I am for most of my life. But once I began doing more research into boys and mens issues and advocating more for them, that started to change things internally. Im doing my masters thesis on helpseeking challenges of male IPV victims and the whole process has changed a lot inside me. Do I think the landscape will change? I don't know, but its hard to think about it progressing and getting worse.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	30/06/26 08:37 AM
6	How do you deal with misandry while learning about feminism I grew up as a feminist (f) in a feminist household and I have since abandoned that label after transitioning (m). I internalised so much misandry I wanted to off myself, and I was told that even that was men's (and my own) fault. Feminism is inherently exclusive, the claim that it is equality is not what is built into the fabric of the definition, nor is it how people act in its favour. Whats hard for me is what people assume when I say im not a feminist - ive not abandoned equal rights for wom…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	29/06/26 07:15 AM
17	CNN featured a $5,000 camp that 'reframes' men away from their masculinity. Is this #ProgressiveConversionTherapy? I've been thinking this exact same thing for a while now. Please make this a thing.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	26/06/26 10:09 AM
8	Dear men, what’s a myth about men, that most women still believe? Yeah true but my point was it shouldnt be brushed off as a benign genetic component. Men are at much higher risk from having violence inflicted - even when they themselves are not violent, and that should be taken seriously. There is way too much dismissal of men's safety regardless of where the danger is coming from - women (ipv), men (general violence and ipv), workplace dangers, suicide, mortality rate, homelessness, substance abuse, military conscription, etc, etc, etc.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/06/26 10:39 AM
26	Dear men, what’s a myth about men, that most women still believe? This one gets me too. I was born female and was taught all those thigs but as a dude im way more terrified of violence. Rightly so too, statistically speaking. (Not tryna say women shouldn't be afraid too, its just nuts that we are taught women are the ones who should be afraid when men are actually in more danger there).	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/06/26 08:47 PM
3	Class, Not Gender, Was the Primary Driver of Privilege Throughout History All good points however.. "Today an average boy faces similar structural pressures around economic mobility, education, workplace risks, and policy impacts as an average girl" -this is not true, gender does impact these things on ground level.. so though class is the overarching issue, once you zoom into a class bracket, gender plays a factor in many ways, just not in the one-sided narrative we hear all the time. The gender thing is perhaps a secondary factor to the overarching class power dynam…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	21/06/26 07:36 AM
19	Misandry analysis being suppressed online Yep, I really noticed this when I began research for my masters thesis last fall (looking at male victims/survivors of IPV and helpseeking challenges). Ive got a bit to say, so warning this might be long: I noticed any time i tried to research stats on male victims, it would feed me female victims over and over and say that male victimisation wasnt an issue. I essentially ended up having arguments with it where eventually it would slowly recognise what I was talking about and relent to showing m…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	17/06/26 08:12 AM
13	Leaving autism subs due to misandry... How do they know autistic men get coddled or not, theyre not autistic men, all they can know is experiences of autistic women. And its so frustrating because I hear autistic men say all the time how much they mask and fight to survive - its just not in the same way that women do... but no... this must mean being coddled and privileged. I get SO frustrated by this one because im an autistic trans man so i see through that bs and it's just dehumanising.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	13/06/26 07:46 PM
4	Anyone else slightly disturbed by the ending of Kidnapped By My Mum? I just watched this 2 days ago, and I very literally had every single thought you mentioned (as did my housemate who caught the second half of it with me). Nothing to add but the excuses were shocking - saying things like 'shes just being a protective mum as she should be'. I just dont get it, nowhere in a million years would that narrative be used if this was a father. Basically every single person looked the other way, gave her the benefit of the doubt and treated the whole situation like she …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	12/06/26 01:12 PM
13	Dear Men and Boys: Happy Men’s Mental Health Awareness Month ❤️ As a trans man who struggles with queer and men's issues this warmed my heart x	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	01/06/26 11:54 AM
1	Evaluating Female Sex Offenders Without Prejudice Ive noticed this in IPV research across the board. Male perpetrators are documented as inherently violent and need to be criminalized whereas female perpetrators are documented as needing help and care. This stuff has deep roots.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	31/05/26 09:03 AM
14	What exactly does it look like when men are punished for being vulnerable? There are outliers in every demographic/community. Or maybe you never noticed it or you internalised these issues in a different way or somehow didnt internalise them at all. Who knows but like yeah, men overwhelmingly deal with emotional abuse and neglect since birth. I grew up female but I had all male friends and grew up in male spaces and I internalised the same narrative about boys/men just by constantly being around them. Also its worth to note - you say there are ways around it. While tha…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	31/05/26 07:48 AM
5	Casual misandry on social media I totally get it, its had a massive impact on me over the years. Its not just social media like instagram and twitter or whatever, its also just life. I hear casual and sometimes serious misandry everywhere i go. I call it out as much as I can, and im just tired of living.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	28/05/26 10:55 PM
1	A perfect example of Homophobic Misandry 17 is still a child. With this argument of "its not a hard line" id be much more inclined to say still creepy till at least 20 in that case, legal or not.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	27/05/26 07:12 AM
2	What’s behind a ‘boy crisis’ in Canadian schools Im annoyed they still had to shoehorn the manosphere, toxic mysogyny, and "boys should just pull their socks up and work harder to catch up to their female counterparts" ....but at least this is a national discussion that had some otherwise good messages.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	21/05/26 10:41 PM
5	Talking about feelings has been exhausting Yeah ive encountered this narrative and id say this is blatant sexism. Men are devalued when they have feelings, theyre devalued when they dont have feelings. Its a lose-lose game that is unique to men and its fkin traumatizing.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	20/05/26 09:42 PM
8	Child marriage happens to boys but they ignore it Enslaved, beaten, and starved into submission. Then there's physical training and the rest.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	15/05/26 06:44 AM
6	Child marriage happens to boys but they ignore it Yeah that figures, im going to do more digging. Coincidentally, I saw a post on Instagram from the tinmen yesterday saying the numbers were much much higher. Id recommend to check that post out if anyone is interested.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	15/05/26 06:10 AM
15	Child marriage happens to boys but they ignore it Holy shit - i googled the missing and murdered indigenous boys/men stats and aparently men make up 32% of the missing numbers, but 71% of the ones that end in a fatality?!? If this is true... how is this not talked about.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	14/05/26 08:08 PM
3	Child marriage happens to boys but they ignore it Sources? Just wondering where you got the info. Would like to know more about it myself if its true.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	14/05/26 08:00 PM
3	American LWMAs, what is your dream SCOTUS precedent? It is currently impossible (officially) for a woman to rape a man. Being forced to penetrate someone is not considered rape.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	13/05/26 05:19 PM
1	Experience as a (left-wing) male victim of domestic abuse (by a woman) Hey I am doing a qualitative research study on this topic for my masters dissertation. If you feel you want to share your experience, feel free to DM me, but no pressure! Hope you find all the support you need with this.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/05/26 03:27 PM
13	I found a concerning comment on Male Loneliness Epidemic from an Amnesty activist and emailed them about it. Did they just compare men to Hitler? Fuck me that's dark.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	01/05/26 07:10 AM
13	Does this Women’s Aid statement come across as dismissive of male victims, or am I reading too much into it? This. Thanks for sharing - really upset me to read it too.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	25/04/26 12:34 PM
7	Men are Not Born into Criminality, They are Manufactured into it How to construct a unidimensional picture with exactly one brain cell. Let's not forget the literal "kill all men" craze that went viral, mostly perpetuated by women. Or the women telling male suicide risks (one of the leading killers of men) to kill themselves to better the world. So no its not that simple.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	02/04/26 05:28 PM
4	Debate over the term "sexism" Not tmi, this stuff has made me cry too. Its a normal reaction to your very real issues being gaslit, rationalised, and dismissed.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	30/03/26 02:25 PM
5	I Think We Strayed Away Well i got the first paragraph but Im pretty sure im not understanding the second paragraph you wrote (sorry). I do agree that mens rights movements need to be more proactive in their fight for their rights. Id love to see more published work, protests, articles, and people talking about these issues. More people researching this area, more campaigning for policy change. I went back to your original post though and maybe the issue is that it contradicts itself too? You say you arent dismissing m…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/03/26 05:14 PM
22	I Think We Strayed Away What you're not getting is that most are not dunking on feminism - unfortunately there are a lot of systemic issues that disaffect men that many feminists dismiss, or even perpetuate. Criticizing a movement that gaslights an entire demographic by saying their issues dont exist seems a pretty fair and significant part of this whole thing. And im not even trying to excuse those who DO shit on feminism for the sake of it - its not "us vs them" and its not okay to do that. But much of feminism is no…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/03/26 01:20 PM
4	NPR podcasters call 2026 the "year of pathetic men." How can we get these organizations to see this is wrong? This. Honestly.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	11/03/26 01:41 PM
2	Research sources No i wasnt aware of that, ill have a look. Yeah I even found papers that showed men experiencing unidirectional violence at higher rates. And unfortunately even though the argument states that men dont experience as much fear or effects from the abuse, there is evidence showing the development of ptsd/cptsd to be no different between female and male vicitms.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	17/02/26 08:08 AM
2	Research sources Not sure if anyone has mentioned Andreia Machado - she wrote a handbook and many papers on male victims of IPV and how hard it is for them to recognise abuse, be believed if they do, or get help.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/02/26 04:02 PM
2	Research sources Thanks for this list. There are many academic papers as well reflecting the issues of male victims/survivors being left behind, you just need to dig to find them (one of the issues in and of itself). I think one of the sources you linked to (Dr. Elizabeth Bates) wrote one or two of the papers I am looking at right now. One is titled ""walking on eggshells" : a qualitative examination of men's experiences of intimate partner violence". So many of the papers i found show the prevalence of this dem…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/02/26 03:54 PM
3	Reducing male loneliness to the status of being or not being in a romantic relationship is incredibly dehumanizing. Don’t do it. Im not sure if im misinterpreting something, or if the comments are catching something im not, but this is what I took from it - Male loneliness isn't just about romantic relationships, its about people on a widespread level not caring about mens emotions, not really hearing or seeing them as humans, and not acknowledging their struggles. Loneliness doesn't always mean lack of social interaction, it can be lack of care, concern and understanding from people, systems, institutions, etc. Being see…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	15/01/26 11:59 PM
9	Curious to hear from trans men about misandry (I didnt take it that way) but yeah thats just the difference of experience really. I knew some things already that id witnessed other men and boys going through but you cant prepare for what its actually going to feel like. That adds nuance in ways you just cant imagine.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	12/01/26 02:54 PM
20	Curious to hear from trans men about misandry Yeah for sure, and thats a reason I feel bad for a lot of boys now because this is what theyre trained for as if its normal and okay? They shouldn't have to be trained for this, this is pure trauma fuel. No wonder men struggle.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	12/01/26 02:52 PM
11	Curious to hear from trans men about misandry Oh hey sorry, I also wanted to say that I naturally never identified as a feminist either, always as an egalitarian. I think its because I knew deep down I wasnt truly one of the ones it benefitted, and I internalized all of the misandry that existed within it. I also agree with the sentiments on feminism having done good, and also having done harm. Sadly I shut my mouth for most of my life so I could be accepted in those spaces.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	12/01/26 09:55 AM
6	Curious to hear from trans men about misandry This. I relate so much and you worded it well, thanks for posting.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	12/01/26 09:39 AM
44	Curious to hear from trans men about misandry Trans masc person here. Its not just the loneliness. Not 2 months into passing consistently as male i was jumped (along with my cis buddy) by 3 guys and 2 girls in a car. The person I tried to run to for help didnt want to help me. The police officers at the hospital didnt care because "ah its just guys getting beaten up" and my buddy's dad said "why did you want to transition, this is the life youve signed up for". He didnt even mean it in a shitty way - he was just deeply sad and that moment h…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	12/01/26 09:33 AM
2	Countries where same-sex activity is illegal Yes mostly i think - however queer men also face violent physical violence perpetrated by family/community, on top of the violence by law. I get your point and no one is trying to one up anyone (at least i hope not, because "queer women dont deal with violence" should not be the takeaway). Reporting on severity of an issue is just what it is. Especially because the disparity they pointed out in the post has significant societal and social implications and violence against men in general is compl…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/01/26 07:27 PM
3	Countries where same-sex activity is illegal Ah hold on I took your last comment a bit skewed - and thats basically what I was trying to say that the laws against queerness tend to overwhelmingly disaffect and target queer men. Queer women have historically been overlooked. I didnt say the west was the same and I wasnt saying social contracts were the same either. But even socially, im pretty sure on a whole men have historically experienced more violence for their queerness. Its a different kind of violence but its still brutal. Women and…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/01/26 05:28 PM
8	Countries where same-sex activity is illegal Uhm...they just kill the gay men a lot of the time and physically brutalize them? As a former lesbian I never feared for my life as much as i did until I was seen as a queer man. Its widely known that male homosexuality is way more brutalized than female homosexuality, even with the facts you stated. Within western and non-western cultures. So they absolutely do try to control male sexuality, but they do by eliminating or brutalizing those who dont comply.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/01/26 08:39 AM
2	Misogyny, misandry and why one will always worsen the other beyond just retaliation logic Yeah i tend to not even go there unless im just trying to learn wtf these people are saying so I can better understand context for argument sake. They are... something else entirely.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	05/01/26 11:26 AM
1	Misogyny, misandry and why one will always worsen the other beyond just retaliation logic ...why am i lucky? Thats what I just said, Ive seen it from all sides too	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	05/01/26 09:32 AM
7	Misogyny, misandry and why one will always worsen the other beyond just retaliation logic I get what youve been saying and thats true but I havent seen much of that rhetoric here. Equally ive seen a lot of womens spaces constantly assume that men are stupid in a whole other way (emotionally mostly which encompasses a large facet of human experience). I think most people here are angry BECAUSE they know none of us are stupid so the refusal to take any responsibility, make exuses for misandry, and whatever else makes it even worse in a way and more frustrating to deal with.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	05/01/26 09:22 AM
21	Misogyny, misandry and why one will always worsen the other beyond just retaliation logic This. And I'll add another layer on to it - thats even just talking about the men who ask for or search for help and express their pain. The ones who dont have developed such intense masks and avoidance with their own pain and grief and emotions because they were shamed out of it since birth. Thats trauma and disconnection from self. I dont like the way "toxic masculinity" has been used to dehumanize men in stead of refrain what is happening to them on a societal level. When a guy shuts down, ca…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	05/01/26 08:59 AM
3	Misandry and anti-masculinity in queer and trans spaces Thanks for sharing. Sad for your friends husband but its comforting to know someone else has felt this way ive been keeping it inside for yonks.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	31/12/25 06:30 PM
6	Misandry and anti-masculinity in queer and trans spaces It is systemic in wider society. Schools, legal system, mental health sphere all disaffect boys and men. Not to mention men are dissaffected most in terms of homelessness, drug/alcohol issues, suicide, deaths in the workplace, incarceration and violence. I dont see it as a one sided issue anymore. Women have their unique issues and men have their unique issues. I support all of them equally. Also its normal to be angry - im not mad at women but I am mad that ive been told my issues dont exist an…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	31/12/25 06:26 PM
41	Misandry and anti-masculinity in queer and trans spaces trans-masc person here who has medically transitioned and is perceived now as a man. This is absolutely spot on to my experience and I just addressed a similar comment on another post the other day speaking about this. What I have come to learn (contrary to what I was taught) is that misandry is real and pervasive, and affects all types of men and male-born people - the issue is that it's completely hidden. I was taught that everything was boiled down to misogyny, but that side of the story did …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	30/12/25 02:03 PM
13	The misandry denialism staircase Trans masc lurker here - this really hit home, thanks for bringing it up. I have been through hell and back fighting my own self for these exact reasons and I spent years trans/detransitioning. I was always told "why would you want to be a gross horrible creepy man when you could be a woman" and then further being convinced I was getting the better side of the coin for transitioning to a man and was running away from womanhood because im a victim of mysogyny. The hilarious thing is that what I i…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	29/12/25 11:14 AM