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It's okay - you're still in the dudebro gym coper phase. I remember being in my 20s too. Give it a decade or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 10:31 PM
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But the key part you’re glossing over is why those men are more attractive beyond just their height and looks. It’s not just about genetics; Yes it is. This is what the science says. The rest of your post is just you yapping about unsubstantiated bullshit redpill "hold frame brahhh" theories. Science is clear - it's not about "personality" or any other redpill evopsych babble. It's about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 10:29 PM
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A well-built physique Ooh, the gym! Just LIFT LIFT LIFT BRAHHHHH!! The final and favorite cope of physically undesirable men. News flash, bud: women don't care about how "shredded" you are or how much you can bench if you're 5'4" and have an ugly face. There is no gym for your height or your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:44 PM
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No. Women want good looking, tall men. Doesn't matter whether they're "hard to get" or not. Good looking, tall men happen to be "hard to get" for women because they have many, many, many options. It's not that women want men who are "hard to get", it's that good looking, tall men are hard to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:41 PM
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But the problem is that you’re short and not making 6 figures Yes, it is. Men who are short and facially unattractive can only hypothetically rage about women expecting them to pay on dates. Women already don't date men who are physically unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:38 PM
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Overall sending women to battle isn’t a great idea because they have a limited number of eggs and men have a near endless supply of sperm. There’s also the physical strength argument. Both stupid arguments. Number of eggs or sperm doesn't matter. You aren't being sent to a battlefield to bear children. Physical strength differentials don't matter. You don't need to be a man to hold a rifle.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:32 PM
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I see bluepilled clowns orbiting and simping and pretending to be feminists in futile attempts to get pussy and failing miserably.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:11 PM
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Men will decenter women the second sex robots become commercially available. And the better those machines are, the more women will be "decentered". The majority of men are only looking for relationships because they want sex, and they only want sex that badly because of societal expectations and their testosterone-fueled sex drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:10 PM
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men overestimate how masculine women actually want them to be. How masculine women CLAIM to want them to be. Don't listen to what women say - look at what women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:07 PM
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Wagies still gonna wagie, though. Are they, though? https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/21/why-more-men-are-dropping-out-of-the-workforce.html Men have been steadily dropping out of the workforce, especially men ages 25 to 54, who are considered to be in their prime working years. According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, the unemployment rate for prime-age working men was 3.4% in August 2024. This number primarily includes those who are unemployed and looking for a job. But about 10.5% of men …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:06 PM
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You can’t force the world to want you, but you can become the kind of person the world wants. The kind of person the world "wants"... wants for what? You cannot just "become" the kind of man who attracts women, because you can't just "become" good looking and tall. It doesn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:51 PM
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News flash: Women don't avoid approaching "men" writ large. They avoid approaching men who aren't good looking. Good looking tall guys get approached all the time. If women aren't approaching you, it's because you aren't attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:48 PM
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women simply avoid the men they don’t desire. ...Until they're old and need a meal ticket. Then suddenly Eugene's beta buxx look a lot more appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:44 PM
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You bringing up ONE YEAR means nothong You: "Suddenly when men look bad, we want a nuanced look at statistics." You, when statistics that make women look bad are brought up: "That doesn't count!" You are the worst poster on this board and should be permanently banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:43 PM
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"As usual with your gender" Hilarious how women play the victim on this board when this kind of blatant misandry is allowed without repercussions
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:36 PM
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In a self reported study, It's funny how feminists and their sympathizers will post study after study about how attraction is based on """personality""" and other blue pilled bullshit based on women's self-reports, but when the statistics are about female-on-male violence suddenly "self-reports" are worthless
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:32 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:14 AM
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Attraction also has so much more to do with personality and acts of love than does looks. No, it doesn't. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-017-0092-x Prior research investigating the mate preferences of women and their parents reveals two important findings with regard to physical attractiveness. First, daughters more strongly value mate characteristics connoting genetic quality (such as physical attractiveness) than their parents. Second, both daughters and their parents report …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:11 AM
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It's not about what anyone "thinks". It's about what the data shows and the fact that it reflects observable reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:06 AM
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Ahh yes, the guy who takes it personally if she did other things with other men or slept with someone faster than him. Ahhh yes, the guy who takes a personal affront personally. A sure sign of narcissism, surely. Definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:02 AM
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"Promiscuous Woman" "How DARE those SEXLESS SCROOGES want sex every day no matter what?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:01 AM
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Plenty of women love short guys. Plenty of women enjoy small dicks. Prove it. Because every time someone on this website says this, their only evidence is "I know a guy..." or some such bullshit. Other than that, we're expected to take it on faith that the statement is true despite overwhelming observable and scientific evidence to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:54 AM
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You're gonna have to take my word for it No. That's not how science and evidence work. Rational people base their beliefs on evidence. "Trust me bro" isn't evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:24 AM
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How are the men on this sub this pathetic? You can literally go to the gym every day [...] Even if you're short with an ugly face, women will still take notice because ripped men are HOT. Wrong. https://www.psypost.org/interactions-between-height-and-shoulder%e2%80%91to%e2%80%91hip-ratio-influence-womens-perceptions-of-mens-attractiveness-and-masculinity/ The researchers found that women tended to view taller men as more physically attractive, more masculine, and having a greater fighting abilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 01:38 AM
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The real inconvenient facts which are ignored by everyone are the other sources Nuancepill is a bullshitter and cherrypicker who selectively cites sources when it's convenient for them and doesn't when it isn't. There are no "facts" to ignore. It's propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 01:30 AM
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You're concerned young men will be "brainwashed" to.... be OK getting hugs and having close friendships? Really? I don't have a "beef" with hugs. Why are you so fixated on men touching each other? It's weird and off putting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 01:26 AM
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The men who complain about being "lonely" don't want friends. They want sex with women. This is obvious in the OP. Ignore their attempts to obfuscate their real grievance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 01:24 AM
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Yes they do to a degree as they signal competence and good social skills which come from specifically high status as opposed to a wealthy programmer for example. No they don't. The scientific data proves that looks are what matters. Not "status and money". Money also gives you the excess ressources to hire a personal trainer and put more time in your fitness. No personal trainer for your face or your height. Fixation on fitness is a male thing, not a female thing. It is men projecting what they …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 01:23 AM
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Many men on here want women to go out of their way to fulfill their emotional and sexual needs, is that not brainwashing by your own definition? I don't care what "many men on here" want. I am not the one telling women to "go out of their way" to do anything. I am here to counter dumb "redpill" and "bluepill" propaganda that runs counter to the looks model of attraction, which is the scientifically supported point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 01:20 AM
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What about "eat food so you don't die"? That's clearly just useless advice because it doesn't make women fuck you. And "wear a coat when it's cold out," how will that make women fuck you? Are you a hormonal 13-year-old boy? Why is being fucked by a woman your life goal? Your perspective is childish. yOuR PeRsPeCtiVe iS ChIlDiSh Here is what YOU said: This isn't "be ok with these things and give up on sex". You are the one who brought up sex first. I'm the childish one? Get off your high horse. i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 01:18 AM
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This isn't "be ok with these things and give up on sex". Except it is, because "improve your looks" is nowhere on your prescriptive list of behaviors. None of those "skills and habits" are going to make women want to fuck men. Only looks can do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:59 PM
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Young women live and breathe beauty (hence the billion dollar beauty industry directed almost entirely at them) from age 12 and up. It's easy to enjoy the privilege of being able to "live and breathe beauty" when all you have to do to "live and breathe" it is paint your face on every morning. Call me up when men can magically make themselves taller, enlarge their penises, widen their collarbones, make their hands bigger and all the other genetic traits that women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:57 PM
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What does it matter if i have options if theyre non-starters anyway? "What does it matter if I have a mansion if it's not made of gold?" said the millionaire to the homeless guy The empathic gender
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:55 PM
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women are wired differently and don't want sex with random strangers who aren't Chad? Fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:52 PM
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If men collectively stopped treating singledom as some unbearable curse and actually built fulfilling lives outside of dating, they’d naturally have more leverage. [...] Desperation is the real killer here, not just lack of access. No. Your looks are your leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:50 PM
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Money and status These things do not create physical attraction, which is the kind of attraction men want. "Money and status" will attract gold diggers. Men who are unsuccessful in the sexual marketplace do not want a woman who is physically repulsed by them and just sees them as an ATM.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:43 PM
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Anyhow, teach your young men to be ok with hugs and planning get togethers and to be social and to check in on the friend who is sick with a quart of soup. "Just brainwash young men to act like I want them to act"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:40 PM
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I used to be 260 pounds... You were obese. Your bone structure was always there. It was being obfuscated by your deformity caused by your obesity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:22 PM
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Yeah, when you're a bigot people are allowed to be a bigot against you. Shocker, I know. Imagine a world where people treat you like you treat them. This is all the patriarchy's fault!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:56 PM
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We have done scientific studies showing physical declines in health when people don't have companionship. Post them. Because I strongly suspect these "studies" will be of the same quality as the studies showing decline in health when men don't ejaculate enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:55 PM
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It doesn't matter what I or anyone sees "in the supermarket". I'm not interested in anecdotes, I'm interested in scientific data. Anecdotes aren't science.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:51 PM
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Yes it helps to have a certain baseline level of good looks. It doesn't just "help". It is a requirement. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-017-0092-x Prior research investigating the mate preferences of women and their parents reveals two important findings with regard to physical attractiveness. First, daughters more strongly value mate characteristics connoting genetic quality (such as physical attractiveness) than their parents. Second, both daughters and their parents report …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:49 PM
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"They do into mine - trust me bro" is not the own you think it is. Womp womp.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:44 PM
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"You can see it IRL. trust me bro" is not a study. It's not science. Show me actual evidence. I don't care what you claim to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:41 PM
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So what was your point? You said something is needed and then admitted it's not. How is that any less "bullshit" than talking about "Chad"? You're just yapping for no reason
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:34 AM
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Again, nothing you said refutes my core argument. "It does not need to be an obligation" is not an excuse. If a society isn't TRYING to meet people's needs, it doesn't have a reason or justification to exist. If sex is a need, society should be doing everything it can to make it available to its constituents. Societies fulfill their constituents' need for transportation by providing infrastructure like buses, trains, etc. Whether they're free to use or not isn't important - the point is the soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:32 AM
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Complaining is counterproductive, but self-delusion is also counterproductive. When a game is unfair, the only rational options are to cheat or not to play. Playing a losing hand is an exercise in self-flagellation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:25 AM
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The gym is not an alternative to cosmetics. Fixation on physique is a coping mechanism that is founded on men's desire to believe that they are in control of how attractive they are to women. There is no gym for your face or your height or your shoulder width, etc. But no one wants to accept that, because it's depressing and demotivating. The male alternative to cosmetics is cosmetic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:22 AM
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A need does not have to be a societal obligation. That has zero relevance to what I said: A society that fails to meet its constituents' needs is a failed society. If meeting its constituents' needs is not a societal obligation, then what the fuck is? What exactly do you think the purpose of people living in societies is? Safety is a need - that is why laws exist. Food is a need - that is why food banks exist. Water is a need - that is why it is freely available in public spaces. Even children w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:18 AM
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. A survey with a far higher sample size showed a much more mild rise in the same timeframe, and no sign of a gendered rise in sexlessness. nUaNcEPiLl "A survey with a far higher sample size showed men CLAIMING to be having sex at the same rate as women"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:14 AM
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For every 1 male that isn't in a relationship... Isn't there (approximately) 1 woman who is single too? Why the focus on only on the males? Lol, no. You've accidentally stumbled on a pill of a certain pitch-dark color that is not appreciated on this board. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/08/for-valentines-day-5-facts-about-single-americans/ When looking at age and gender together, 63% of men under 30 describe themselves as single, compared with 34% of women in the same age group.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:12 AM
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human companionship "Human companionship" is no more a "need" than sex is. Ridiculous to claim the former is a need but the latter isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:07 AM
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A healthy, meaningful relationship is needed in order for women to have sex with a man. Before anyone comes at me, this obviously excludes women who are only looking for casual sex. ? "A healthy, meaningful relationship is needed, except when it isn't" No shit. Thanks for saying nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:06 AM
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needs are not societal obligations or entitlements. ? A society that fails to meet its constituents' needs is a failed society. Without the promise of having their needs met, the only impetus for a person to participate and contribute to society is the threat of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:05 AM
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"I'm not conceding, I'm just going to condescendingly say GoOd LuCk STaYiNg SinGle" instead of responding with a rational rebuttal (because I don't have one)." Nice cope. You lost. Thanks for playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:02 AM
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Women aren't necessarily lying so much as not acting in the precise manner you want. No, they are lying. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-017-0092-x Prior research investigating the mate preferences of women and their parents reveals two important findings with regard to physical attractiveness. First, daughters more strongly value mate characteristics connoting genetic quality (such as physical attractiveness) than their parents. Second, both daughters and their parents report v…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:00 AM
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This is the biggest self-report I've seen in this entire thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:57 AM
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I accept your concession. Thanks for playing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:54 AM
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Imagine whining about "the patriarchy" when you're body shaming short men by calling them "manlets". I have zero sympathy for your "oppression" by "the patriarchy".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:52 AM
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You asked for proof and got it, then moved the goalposts. Comical for you to accuse someone else of "intellectual bankruptcy". Just sit down and shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:50 AM
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Men whose appearance is above average are above average. "Kindness" and "pleasantness" do not factor into attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:48 AM
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Studies show women date at or below their looksmatch Post them. I don't believe you. - Who was rating the participants? - What controls were used?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:47 AM
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Lots of small things add up to make someone attractive. If by "lots of small things" you mean face, height, penis size, shoulder width, etc. """Personality""" isn't one of the things. Period. The science is settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:43 AM
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The oligarchy isn't "literally" freaking out about shit. It's mostly politicians and doomsday copers being really loud. By the time declining birth rates become an actual problem in terms of declining productive forces, automation will have replaced low-skill human labor and that population deficit won't matter anyway. It's just another cope. The world is not going to end. There's not going to be some glorious communist revolution where less people fucking results in oligarchs being overthrown o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:02 PM
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If you're breaking the rules by posting "contentless rhetoric" (like you are), then it's not for you either. Post some studies or falsifiable claims instead of sexist misandrist femcel dogshit. It's not my fault you can't construct an actual argument and you can only regurgitate femcel dogma.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:41 PM
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the other party can be compensated for their labour above & beyond “50/50” If you want it that way, then women must provide services without complaint and constant bitching and whining about "uneven division of labor" in the home. You don't get to have it both ways. If you're getting paid, shut up and work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:35 PM
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That’s not what happens in practice Which is why I said "SHOULD be contributing". Read my post or don't respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:26 PM
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You are being extremely disrespectful Your entire thread is deeply disrespectful and sexist. You should be banned for posting it. It's not a subject for "debate", it's just you self-righteously regurgitating femcel axioms copypasted from misandrist shitholes like RedPillWomen, which is just as bad as other femcel shitholes like FDS and lipstick alley.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:12 PM
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The outcome of decreasing birth rate is more resources to share amongst the population. This would be true in a communal society. Modern society is capitalist and concentrates wealth and resources at the top. Nobody is going to be "sharing" resources with 99% of people and depopulation isn't going to make you any better off or wealthier.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:08 PM
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This does not actually debate the topic at hand Lol, the arrogance and pretentiousness to call your misandrist femcel screed a topic for "debate". You weren't trying to "debate" anything and you didn't make any falsifiable points in your OP. It's just a shitty man-hating tirade that reads like it came right out of lipstick alley or FDS or whatever other femcel shithole.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:05 PM
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just go gay ? "Just go gay"? Do you think being gay is a choice? What kind of homophobic bullshit is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:54 PM
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3-6 dates is still a stranger and is too early to spend money on a woman. Those dates should cost the man 0 dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:51 PM
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It's not about making women wait for relationships. It's about setting boundaries so if you don't like it please leave. Men don't need to be doormat and give their money and time to women just to be "considerate" for women I mean what for?🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:49 PM
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Then it means that almost all men gonna pump and dump if they have options. Then you should not be thier easy options by having sex with them early. Almost all women are fine with being pumped and dumped BY CHAD. Why should I be their easy option for a relationship and wait for sex when Chad didn't have to?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:47 PM
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Are you scared of women having equality? No Do you resent it? No The 1950s pretend ideal seems pretty popular with lots of men, is that a time you wish you could go back to? If so, why? The 1950s are popular with WHITE men. I am brown. In the 1950s, I wasn't considered a full human being. The further back in time I go, the worse that gets. So no, I don't want to go back to the fucking fifties. What do you see as the benefits for men in particular? There aren't any FOR ME. Would you be happy with…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:43 PM
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Men should protect themselves from female resentment Be exceedingly choosy with women and stay away from women who place great value onto height and facial aesthetics, especially if you notice him calling other men short/ugly. Date women who are less likely to experience retroactive jealousy. This means confident, self-assured women who don't expect you to spend as much money and attention on her as you did on your exes. If a woman is overly interested in your finances or social status, leave he…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:40 PM
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Yes women do care about physical attractiveness, I never said they didn’t. Yes you did. Reminder, here is what YOU said: Men and women are attracted to different things. Men tend to be attracted visually. Women tend to be attracted psychologically. "Men and women are attracted to different things" and then immediately following up with "men tend to be attracted visually" makes it pretty clear you think women AREN'T attracted to looks. This is not a reach, it's clear from the context of what you …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:33 PM
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If one party is a stay at home parent Being a stay-at-home parent is a personal decision. A bad one. Don't want to give up financial independence? Keep working after marriage. There's nothing "logical" about making a stupid decision and expecting someone else to shoulder the burden for it when it doesn't work out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:28 PM
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What world are you living in where ALL child-rearing is communal? I said it SHOULD be communal, not that it already is. Read my post or don't respond if you're just going to spout faux outrage garbage. And how do you make pregnancy, child birth and breastfeeding communal? Fucking ridiculous how people include these things as something women should be compensated for, as if it's a job they're being hired to do. News flash: unless you're offering surrogacy services, pregnancy and childbirth aren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:26 PM
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"Domestic labor and child rearing" aren't and shouldn't be exclusively women's responsibility in a marriage. All involved parties should be contributing. Divorce shouldn't involve anyone being "compensated a fair hourly rate" for raising their fucking children. Get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:22 PM
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Asset division is typically based on principles of fairness and equity Even if this were true (it is not - there is nothing fair or equitable in divesting another person of their assets as a result of a no-fault divorce), it is women's responsibility to ensure they are not in "vulnerable positions" as a result of marriage. The "fair and equitable" thing to do in marriage would be to have both parties produce income for themselves so they can keep their own assets in the event of a divorce, and A…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:09 PM
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This is common sense. "It's common sense" is not evidence. Redpill bullshit is not scientific fact. The science proves women are just as "visual" as men, if not more so. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-017-0092-x Prior research investigating the mate preferences of women and their parents reveals two important findings with regard to physical attractiveness. First, daughters more strongly value mate characteristics connoting genetic quality (such as physical attractiveness) than…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:06 PM
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Redpill "philosophy" is so stupid lmao. This is pure naturalistic fallacy shit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:58 PM
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"If I have to choose between starving in rags and starving while wearing Gucci, that's not even a question for me" It doesn't matter. You're still starving.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:57 PM
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>women bully and abuse physically unattractive men and worship physically attractive ones >unattractive men want the same treatment attractive men get >ask what they can do >"just IMPROOOOOOOOOVE bro!! hit the gym! career! PeRsoNaLiTy!! CoNfiDenCe!!!!!" >Do all that shit >Still don't get treated like Chad (because their looks haven't changed) >"It's your fault! No woman on the planet is strong enough to pull a woman hater away from his captors!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:55 PM
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"Community property" is the scam, yes. There shouldn't be any "community property". Both parties should work for a living and both parties should keep THEIR earnings and property after divorce. Because "community property" in a society where men choose to work higher-paying jobs than women always ends up with men losing money and women gaining it in divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:51 PM
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Even if that were true (gonna need a citation on that claim), ONE SINGLE instance of it happening is one too many. There should be NO women getting free money and assets upon no-fault divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:45 PM
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Men and women are attracted to different things. Men tend to be attracted visually. Women tend to be attracted psychologically. [citation needed] The science does not agree with this claim at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:33 PM
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Yes, it's fine. Now let's fix divorce laws so women don't get to take half of a man's assets when they get bored and decide to divorce a man without "a reason or an excuse".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:32 PM
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The fantasy of Christian Grey is just short hand for wanting to feel desired and loved above all others BY CHAD. Fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:30 PM
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Women aren’t obsessed with looks like men Stopped reading your post here. This is not only a sexist statement, it's demonstrably, provably false. Women are just as obsessed with looks as men, if not more so. This is what the science says. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-017-0092-x Prior research investigating the mate preferences of women and their parents reveals two important findings with regard to physical attractiveness. First, daughters more strongly value mate characteris…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 04:58 PM
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Because men have started to realize that women find 80%+ of men unattractive and when they say they want to be approached, what they mean is they want to be approached by tall, good looking men. Not oofy doofy gym rats who are trying to compensate for their short height or facial unattractiveness by getting shredded. "Me paying $270 a month at equinox to dress in cute workout clothes and walk on the treadmill for 30 minutes so I can find a gym boyfriend... I've been going here for 7 months and n…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:06 PM
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"I want Chad who also treats me like a queen"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:47 PM
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None of us are saying All of you are saying it. You backpedal and deny, deny, deny when someone posts scientific evidence to the contrary. "Looks don't matter" was the single most common piece of female propaganda until people started reading scientific studies proving that they are the only thing that actually matters. Things like "looksmaxxing" going viral was the beginning of the turning point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:46 PM
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Who tf is out there saying looks don’t matter? The only way you could ask this question is if you're being disingenuous. "Looks don't matter, it's about personality" is the single most commonly held belief in society when it comes to discussions about attraction and the sexual market. It's the single most common point of view held on Reddit. Women only admit that looks matter when they get cornered by people like me posting studies and scientific evidence proving that they are in fact the only t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:44 PM
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Meanwhile the brilliant, geeky Valedictorian is stuck with a passel of morons because the CS majors and D&D guys ignore the smart students because they trained their dicks to respond to porn cues??? I want women to stop spreading propaganda and disinformation about what physically undesirable women want. "Geeky" women do not want "geeky" men, they want GOOD LOOKING men, and if those good looking men are also into whatever "geek" bullshit she's into, it's a plus. Real life isn't a rom-com movie. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:41 PM
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Women don’t care if you’re Chad. lol, lmao even https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-017-0092-x Prior research investigating the mate preferences of women and their parents reveals two important findings with regard to physical attractiveness. First, daughters more strongly value mate characteristics connoting genetic quality (such as physical attractiveness) than their parents. Second, both daughters and their parents report valuing characteristics other than physical attractiveness…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:01 PM
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It's funny how incredulous and defensive women get when physically unattractive men talk about how they've been verbally abused by women in the past "What did you do? You must have done SOMETHING to deserve it, women don't act like that without provocation!!!" The solipsism and delusion are so intense. It's like women just tune out the hordes of other women on the internet mocking and berating short men, ugly men, men with small penises, etc. They swear these women just don't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:47 PM
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I think we should normalise alternative lifestyles that dont focus on finding a partner and getting married. Having strong friendsships is jist as important. It doesn't matter whether this "alternative lifestyle" is "normalized" or not. The mistake you're making - and the reason men "get their pitchforks out" when women like you talk about how it's "possible" to have a "fulfilling life without a partner" is that those men don't want that lifestyle. They want partners. YOU think life is fulfillin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:44 PM
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I’m curious where the idea some bloke who sleeps with 100 women in a year is high value? Isn’t that a low value fuck boy? Promiscuity doesn't work the same way for men and women. Women are the sexual selector gender. Sexual promiscuity is social proof for men because it means they were selected by 100 women for sex. Men who are low-value do not get selected for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:42 PM
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Dudes on here want soooooooo badly for women to be the villains;the victim complexes are so overblown "Men don't have any real problems, women are perfect angels and never mistreat men, any evidence to the contrary is just men having a victim complex" Just say you hate men instead of doing all these mental gymnastics
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:34 PM
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And NO ONE wants fat/ ugly women. Wrong. The Pig Woman experiment is a perfect example debunking your claim. Undesirable men are absolutely desperate and will take any woman, irrespective of whether she is attractive or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:51 PM
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Lol. This is what women can't understand. NO ONE wants ugly men. Not fat women, not ugly women, nobody. Ugly women have limitless options because men are desperate for ANY female attention they can get. Ugly men have NO options.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:37 PM
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To pass up an opportunity to date a woman u like and want because because she has a child like most healthy functioning fertile women and dated someone else n the past like most adults is foolish Desirable men don't "like and want" single mothers or to raise Chad's bastard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:33 PM
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I don't take offense Who said I took offense? All I did was repeat what you said back to you, but with your gender substituted where mine was placed. Are you saying your statement was meant to be offensive?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:29 PM
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Rejecting someone who has lost value since you were interested in them is not "holding a grudge"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:28 PM
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Because the man's value has increased, while the woman's value has decreased. Why should he "give her a chance" now that she's old and used up when he can look for a better, younger, more attractive model? After all, that's what she did when she was younger, right? Everyone wants the best deal for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:27 PM
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Believe it or not, I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:21 PM
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"I just don't have the ENERGY or TIME to give you the lustful sex I gave Chad (because you aren't attractive)! GOD, I'm just not THAT much of a sexual person (for you)! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:20 PM
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According to the latest national survey [...] when surveyed about having sex [...] the same survey also showed that the lifetime sexual partners of the top 15% and top 5% of men lie [...] according to a recent survey on kinky practices Into the garbage it goes. Surveys aren't science.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:18 PM
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Read my post again. "Egalitarians" do not enter immoral contracts where one party has outsized power over the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:06 PM
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So do women have a sixth sense for "assholes" and that's why physically undesirable don't get sex (not because of their looks), or are they unable to detect abusers? Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:46 PM
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Lmao. Tell that to the absolute broke ass creatures I have witnessed lie, cheat, and abuse. Sorry, but it's not just "top tier" women who suck. Most of y'all do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:32 PM
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It absolutely would affect women. Women would start asking men out and being more active in relationships to get one. Women already ask good-looking men out. Average and below men would not get "asked out" by women if they dropped out of the sexual market. This is a ridiculous claim. One woman's high tier man is another's low tier or average, etc. ? Do you seriously think a 6'4" male model is any woman's "low tier" or "average"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:31 PM
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single by choice Lmfao. "It's not that women don't want me, I'm just single by choice! I swear!" Definitely believable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:26 PM
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Cautious, sensible women go for safer men, [citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:22 PM
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As of 2023, half of American women are married or living with a partner by 26. The average time from first date to marriage is 4.9 years. The average from first date to moving in together is about 2 years. It's cute how you think this is some kind of "checkmate". News flash: just because a woman married or moved in with some oofy doofy loser doesn't mean she's attracted to him or that he was her first choice. All you've really done here is point out the beta buxx phenomenon. At 26, the woman has…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:21 PM
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wah wah wah woe is me women don’t like me because i don’t have a jawline end of the world KIM THERES PEOPLE THAT ARE DYING. So what are you doing to save the world? Because it looks to me like all you're doing is shitposting on this board just like those "whiners" are. Get the fuck off your high horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:18 PM
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Beta buxx deluxe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:14 PM
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Egalitarians don't get married because they do not enter into legally binding contracts that place one party (men) at an extreme disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:03 PM
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She also came from a wealthy family loaned him money to start the company but that doesn’t fit the narrative. Loaning someone money doesn't entitle you to take half their wealth, and this loan has nothing to do with the actual reason she was able to take half of Bezos' wealth, which is the gynocentric family court system
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:02 PM
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How do you know whats genuine attraction and whats not? Science tells us. Do you think personality traits (like being funny, charming, etc) and displays of competence (good at sports, playing an instrument, etc) can't create attraction? Your looks are your personality. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4873083/ Research on personality has shown that perceiving a person as attractive fosters positive expectations about his/her personal characteristics. Literature has also demonstrated a si…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 11:35 PM
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You get better looking women gold diggers if you flex lifestyle and have a good career.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:30 PM
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We all know some broke guy that’s charming and has looks and still gets women. This is genuine attraction. However, most women will easily go down from their looksmatch to have a guy that makes 100k+. This is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:29 PM
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"Chad isn't real" but women lust for him on social media and real life, make memes about him (6'5", finance, blue eyes, trust fund), worship male models, etc. Lol. Get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:25 PM
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"I want Chad who is obsessed with me and lives a rockstar lifestyle and will entertain me 24/7/365"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:23 PM
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Marriage is a joke because it allows people to use "leaving" as a threat, like you're doing here The legal and financial repercussions of no-fault divorce are an unjust sword of Damocles hanging over people's heads, and most of those people are men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:21 PM
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If you're tossing your "nice guy" boyfriend in the garbage because he doesn't give you pussy tingles, you didn't "love" him any more than a man trading in his aging wife for a younger model "loved" her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:19 PM
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I am tired of women being shamed for leaving their boring "nice guy" boyfriend What a ridiculous post. What "nice guy" boyfriend? Who are the women dating these "nice guys"? Where are the tiktoks of women worshipping and lusting for "nice guys"? Because I haven't seen any. I've seen plenty of social media posts worshipping tall, good looking men (Chad). "Nice guys" aren't getting shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:18 PM
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yOu aRe LitEraLlY- Lol, shut up. Do you have any actual rebuttal? Or are you just going to admit you're a historically illiterate Christian apologist?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 03:14 PM
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Underestimating the importance of our own personality/behavior and overestimating the importance of our looks is a pretty common coping mechanism. Lol. You have it backwards. The coping mechanism is that people overestimate the importance of """personality""" and underestimate the importance of looks. Because we all feel “good personality” is harder to grasp First, who is "we"? I don't feel "good personality" is hard to grasp at all. The science tells me exactly what it means: good looks. "Perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:13 AM
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You can meet a girl, think to yourself "yeah she's fine but not really my type" and as she demonstrates attractive personality traits throughout the friendship, your romantic sensors start to tingle and you grow to find her attractive in that way. Question: do you have any scientific evidence to substantiate this claim, or is this basically just "trust me bro" shit? Because the science is pretty clear on this matter: your looks are your personality. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC48730…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:09 AM
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The US and many European nations (that you guys love to rave about) which have "equal rights" have been Christian in their majority for centuries. And Christianity was (and still is) used in those nations to justify stripping rights from (or outright denying rights to) women. Christianity and "Christian" Bible doctrine is behind phenomena like slut shaming and the """pro-life""" (anti women's bodily autonomy) movement. European nations have "equal rights" in spite of Christianity, not because of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:02 AM
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When do women really start lowering their standards? Lowering their standards for what? If you want to enter a betabuxx relationship, women in their 30s and 40s are definitely more open to that. Genuine attraction and desire? Women's standards never drop for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:53 AM
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You misspelled looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:52 AM
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Exactly what I said when I read your dumb ass fucking post. Hold this L.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:51 AM
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So you're attracted to your stepsister, your sisters in law, your friends' girlfriends, your married coworkers, and your stepmother? Are you sure you can't control who you are attracted to? What kind of idiotic analogy is this? Do you think people consciously decide who they do and do not feel attracted to? Do you think physical attraction is a choice? Do you think no one on earth is attracted to their "stepsister" or "stepmother"? Do you realize that those people aren't actually related to you …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:48 AM
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Which is why women aren't required to entertain the unwanted, unsolicited, uncomfortable romantic and sexual attention from men who they consider brothers and platonic friends. So glad you figured this out. ? Who said they were? My post was a response to this question: Would you imagine that you would feel a sense of betrayal? I know it must come as a surprise to a misandrist bigot like you, but normal, well-adjusted people don't feel "betrayed" when someone develops feelings for them, irrespect…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:40 AM
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where if a woman wants to be respected and not be relationship-baited This is such an idiotic sentence. What the fuck kind of nonsense is "relationship-baited"? How do you "relationship-bait" someone? This reads like such entitled pissbaby whining. The same women who complain about men talking about "the friendzone" will turn around and say dumb shit like "relationship-baited". Incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:33 AM
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Unless or until you claim you care about your female friends happiness as much as you care about your own, Literally what the fuck does this have to do with you being a raging misandrist who bases her misandry on quotes by internet strangers? Get a grip, you unhinged freak.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:27 AM
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Could this be central to single unsuccessful men resentment toward single unsuccessful women? Even if single men may understand that sex is not everything, but since they lack everything (both relationships and sex), then statements from sexually unsuccessful woman The answer to your question is in your own post. Single sexually unsuccessful men resent single romantically unsuccessful women because those women have infinite sexual opportunities, but whine about not being able to secure a relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:23 AM
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You and 90% of the men in this thread confirm your ulterior motives "These random strangers on an internet forum confirm that all men everywhere are just like them, therefore I can say bigoted shit and I'm not a misandrist because women are just realists at this point, realists who base their reality on what a handful of men say on the internet" Did you even read what you wrote before you posted it? Your "reasoning" works exactly like the redpill "misogynists" you hate so much
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:15 AM
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Think of a female friend of yours. Now imagine that she confessed to you... Would you imagine that you would feel a sense of betrayal? ? No. Why the fuck would I feel "betrayed" by that? People can't help who they're attracted to. What the fuck is wrong with you? Seriously, the level of fragility it takes to feel "bETrAyEd" by an involuntary chemical reaction happening in someone's brain is unreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:08 AM
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She thought she had a REAL friend. Instead it turns out he loved her. She's in her car crying, feeling what I imagine to be: Betrayed Duped Disappointed Disillusioned Upset Lmao. What a disgusting post. An unattractive man had the GALL to develop feelings for a woman he was friends with - now she's crying because she BETRAYED, DUPED, TRICKED, ABUSED Fucking absurd lmao Just say you hate unattractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:04 AM
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Your problem is that you're a misandrist in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:01 AM
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1.) I don't think it's all repressed resentments the two parties have for each other. I think it's just some light ribbing. This was back in the day when everyone wasn't so fragile and weak that a little joking and teasing would be labeled "repressed resentments." It was nothing to run to the shrink about. Are you really making a "all you fragile snowflakes" argument here? Lmfao, ridiculous. People who respect and desire each other don't mock each other's bodies. It has nothing to do with "fragi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:26 AM
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Blame the men willing to pay for setting the norm, not the woman for accepting the offer. "Blame the people buying stolen goods from a criminal for creating a market, not the criminal for stealing the goods"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:13 AM
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With sugaring, you aren't paying directly for sex, though. [...] I would frame it like a consistent escort where you also spend time together outside of the "job". This is a distinction without a difference. You're just paying for sex AND a "gf experience". It's prostitution deluxe. The bottom line is the man wants her and she wants money in exchange. That's prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:11 AM
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are you kidding me? yes, there's millions no, do the research yourself, this is like googling "is water wet?" "There's MILLIONS of studies proving my argument is correct!" "Ok, post them" "No" You lose. Thanks for playing. EDIT: Maybe you might want to "Google" the concept of Burden of Proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:03 AM
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There have been generations of people who came before us who accepted the fact that not everyone woman is a super model, and not every man is a 5 star athlete. They accepted this to the point that they could joke that the man was never going to get the pin-up on this wall and Mommy was never going to get her favorite player on her favorite sports team and they married and had kids and without them none of us would be here. These "cute little jokes" are born from repressed resentment these two pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:01 AM
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Well according to you and the OP there is NOTHING society can do to make these people attractive. They are doomed from the start due to their genetics. Read my post. "If there's no way to do it right now, then that society's job should be to look for a way to do it." People with cancer were "doomed from the start due to their genetics". Does society just throw up its hands and tell cancer patients "sucks to be you, better luck never"? No. Society works on developing better and better treatments …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:36 AM
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I'm pretty sure there's millions of evidence that non verbal communication helps engaging people and it can be taught Really? Millions of peer-reviewed behavioral studies backing blue pill ideology? Post them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:31 AM
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The scientific evidence shows that it's about looks, not "sOcIaL SkIlLs" or other abstract nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:13 PM
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I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:11 PM
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So, what's your solution? If this is your offy doofy beta bullshit worldview- what's your solution, Mr. Alpha Sigma High Value Red Pill Real Man? Acceptance and spreading of the "attraction is based on looks, not personality" reality leading to the development of better and more advanced cosmetic procedures that allow everyone to live in bodies that they are aesthetically satisfied by This is a far superior alternative to making up bullshit fantasies about "plain jane" angels who are so virtuous…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:10 PM
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Maybe this is impossible Not "maybe". It is impossible. It's unreasonable and childishly naive to believe the "unlucky" people are ever going to be okay with you basically just telling them "oh well, sucks to be you, get over it" and then demanding that they become contributors to your society. A good society's job is to make life better for ALL its constituents, not just the "lucky" ones. If it can't do that, it's a failure of a society. If there's no way to do it right now, then that society's…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:02 PM
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If that's all PPD women's fathers did to raise them to adulthood, it explains nearly all their social and emotional problems. And the only "grift" is blue pill bullshit about """therapy""". As if paying some charlatan $200/hr to blow smoke up my ass and talk about our fee-fees is going to make my life better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 10:54 PM
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Males aren't taught that their wives owe them children, sex, meals, and a clean house? No, and it's absolutely ridiculous to claim otherwise. There are no parents teaching their children that their future wives are supposed to be their chattel. This belief is radical feminist brain rot with zero basis in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 04:41 AM
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Physical attractiveness is a factor, but its not all that is when it comes to SMV. Wrong, and the rest of your post is pointless, because your entire claim is based on this false claim. SMV stands for SEXUAL market value. Your sexual value comes down to how sexually attractive you are, which is synonymous with how physically attractive you are. Redpill PUA manosphere bullshit about relationships and commitment or whatever other bullshit don't apply. It's about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 04:39 AM
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Love is really just a tool used by the matriarchy to keep men subjugated. Men have been taught from a young age that they need to love their wife and their children. That love should be the sole driving force behind men sacrificing their time, effort, and labor providing for their wives and families. They should not expect nor receive compensation for all this. Women on the other hand are let off the hook because they're emotional creatures who don't need a sexual connection to enjoy relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 04:31 AM
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One study doesn't disapprove most of the studies stating the opposite Post them or concede the argument. This isn't an opinion forum, it's a debate forum. If you make a positive claim, you need to substantiate it with evidence. P.S. I expect BEHAVIORAL studies. The scientific evidence showing women only care about looks are behavioral studies. I'm not interested in surveys where women CLAIM they care about "personality" or whatever abstractions and not looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 04:14 AM
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Because if you believe you can succeed you will spend more time on working towards that direction There is no "work" you can do. Attraction is about looks. You cannot "work" on your height, facial bone structure, shoulder width, penis size, etc. And looks to a point can be improved. There is no significant improvement that can be made to your looks without cosmetic surgery. The things that matter most - facial bone structure and height - are not improvable through effort. Women care about other …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 07:34 PM
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My point is, if this were a game, your odds of success will always be better if you believe you can succeed. That's not how it works. Your odds don't increase just because you believe something. Your odds are based on material reality. They're based on your looks. Not your beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 06:08 PM
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All this redpill dudebro manosphere bullshit is nonsense. It's about looks. Not about how you act. Do you think women become less attracted to good-looking, tall men when they do things for them? Get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 11:44 PM
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Are you seriously arguing that a tribal nomadic group was a stateless society? It’s literally tribalism, it wasn’t a fucking democracy. They had a tribal head, which made decisions. By definition it’s not stateless. You keep saying "by definition", but the definition of the term is never what you think it is lmao The most common and widely accepted sociopolitical definition of a state is given by the sociologist Max Weber in his 1918 work Politics as a Vocation: a human community that (successfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:48 AM
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How is that hurting you in any way? You're the one whining about "gooners". It's okay for women to be gooners and write/draw porn, but when men do it they're a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:00 PM
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The only way to be attractive to the opposite sex is by being physically attractive, intelligent, competent and being a decent person. Fixed. "Intelligence", "competence", "being a decent person", and any other abstraction of the like does not factor in with respect to physical attraction. Your looks are your personality. The scientific evidence shows this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:55 PM
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This does not require violence or anything super-radical, but simply ideological propaganda concerning appearance (body positivity + increasing the number of "traditionally" attractive appearance archetypes) and the restoration of social norms. This will not work, for several reasons: Attractiveness is not purely subjective. The human hindbrain is not a political arena. Who will be in charge of creating and disseminating this "ideological propaganda"? Who gets to dictate what is and is not attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:54 PM
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I will argue that we haven’t ever seen it because it doesn’t actually work. It’s just frankly impractical, And any actual attempt at a stateless society has collapsed ? Do you think paleolithic hunter-gatherers were statists? lmao The oldest known society that had a functional state is Sumeria, which dates back to 6,000 BCE - the modern human species has existed since 190,000 BCE Considering humans made it all the way here, stateless societies have a longer track record of success than statist o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:40 PM
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By definition, capitalism will have more competitors buying for the same power, The definition of capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately (as opposed to collectively) owned. There's nothing in capitalism's "definition" that involves competition for the same power - power struggles are universal to any sociopolitical or economic system Name one communist state This is a contradiction in terms. Communist societies are stateless by definition…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:18 PM
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besides give you general advice on how you can help yourself by making you more attractive. Unless that advice includes cosmetic surgery, it's worthless. And that's where society fails, hard. The "advice" people give regarding attraction is founded on the fallacious belief that attraction is about abstractions like """personality""" instead of looks, which is what the scientific data says.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:27 PM
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Communism works for like five seconds until one of them becomes a powerful leader You say this like capitalism doesn't work the exact same way lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 09:57 PM
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Getting an STI that is easily treatable? You've probably had a zit that took longer to heal. Yeah, it's still hilarious to me that she's disgusting and dirty. What's not clicking, Susan? "Being disgusting" is your personal opinion. Do you think she gives a rat's ass? She's crying and whimpering like a little kid while I'm laughing my ass off at her. I already won. Stay mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:58 PM
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We always tell women that unattractive, overweight women can’t get the same treatment as a VS model.. Who is "we"? Unattractive women get TONS of support from society. Anyone who says anything like what you said gets labeled a toxic misogynist and shamed into oblivion. And yes, unattractive women DO get treated just as well as VS models. Their problem is they don't want that treatment from average (unattractive) men. They want it from Chad, and Chad doesn't need them because he has options.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:34 PM
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Ok? Everyone already knows that. It isn't going to stop them from complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:31 PM
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Getting a sexually transmitted disease and being disgusting. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:28 PM
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If you truly didn't give a shit (which you claimed), you wouldn't have felt the need to add the last part. I do give a shit. Her getting gonorrhea and crying like a baby is hilarious to me. It made my day better. Why wouldn't I give a shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:52 PM
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How is it sour grapes to laugh at someone for facing the consequences of their actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:30 PM
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Attraction is not "earned".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:58 PM
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The scientific evidence substantiates my belief system. Where is your evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:55 PM
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The scientific evidence substantiates my belief system. Where is your evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:55 PM
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There is no "stepping up". The problem with your ideology is it falsely conflates sexual success with personal effort. There is no "effort" that will make women attracted to you. You either have the looks, the height, etc. or you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 01:51 PM
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But if the man says no, would you agree that women can't do anything? Goalpost shifting. Here is what YOU said: Men initiates, correct? If men do not initiate, women cannot do anything about it. Men makes the first move while women simply reacts You are wrong. Women do initiate, with Chad. Whether Chad says no or not is immaterial to you being fundamentally wrong. The bedrock of your argument is flawed. Just stop. You're making a fool out of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 12:57 AM
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"Astrology is real. Sorry you're not a Virgo" - you Lmfao. Keep coping
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 12:54 AM
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Men initiates, correct? Incorrect. Women initiate all the time... when the man is good looking. Women will flirt with Chad all day long. They don't initiate with unattractive men, which for women, is most men. The studies show this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:40 PM
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Women's sociosexual orientations often do change with age "Sociosexual orientation" lmao, your evopsych tag is really appropriate. Like all "evo psych" pundits, you just make shit up and pretend it's real
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:37 PM
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One of the main pieces of advice that I give myself and I give to others is very simple: do not spend too much time focusing on the things you cannot do. Don’t spend all your time worrying about the money that you don’t make, the physical features you don’t have, the weight that you can’t lift in the gym yet, the sports that you’re not good at, the skills that you don’t yet have, etc. Instead, focus on the things that you are good at Ok, sure. Don't focus on the looks you don't have. That's grea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:58 AM
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Like clockwork. It's always the same meme stats. This is contradicted by all other sources which show gaps in the range of 10-15%, easily explained by age gaps in relationships. These results just don't make headlines because they don't fit your narrative. A survey with a much higher sample size shows that single young women were underrepresented in the Pew survey. Like clockwork, indeed. Read my post again: Even if we ignore this fact and use junk science like "surveys", you're cherrypicking wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 01:27 PM
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Why do you think people would people lie on a survey? The Hawthorne Effect. The Hawthorne effect is a type of human behavior reactivity) in which individuals modify an aspect of their behavior in response to their awareness of being observed. Whether the survey is anonymous or not, the person knows they are being observed. Observation connotes judgment. That is why men lie to other men to "save face". The shame of admitting their sexual failure to anyone, including an "anonymous" observer causes…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:17 AM
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I know what my league is and I intend to stay within it, even though I may be physically attracted to completely different features. I acknowledge that I don't have the looks to attract that kind of person, so I want to experience a relationship with a man within my league. "I'm not attracted to you, but I'm not good looking enough to get the men I am attracted to and I want to experience a relationship, so I guess you'll do". I pity whatever man ends up with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:54 AM
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Boring. There is at most a small difference in attractiveness among men and women in or not in relationships (it's not larger for men and it hasn't risen since what it was 60 years ago). Um, no. You don't get to regurgitate a propagandist's talking points and then just casually dismiss the fact that all their studies are from the late 80s. A supermajority of young men are sexually active. Do women have varied enough taste to find 80%+ of men super good looking? "the 2022 data from the General So…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:16 AM
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Ugly men are getting used for money and attention by aging women past their prime who aren't really attracted to them. What now?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:48 PM
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Why would I buy women anything? What's in it for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 03:18 AM
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bordum Lmao. Goodbye indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:42 AM
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You can be ugly, unpleasant, or ugly AND unpleasant Distinction without a difference. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20179314/ The authors posit that the attribution of desirable interpersonal qualities to physically attractive targets is a projection of interpersonal goals; people desire to form and maintain close social bonds with attractive targets and then project these motivations onto those targets. Three studies support this model. Tendencies to see attractive novel targets depicted in p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 12:32 AM
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Let the undesirable ones go extinct. Survival of the fittest. So glad there's finally an honest woman here. I completely agree - I don't care about women's problems either. Let the cream rise to the top. Survival of the fittest, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 12:18 AM
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being a good person This is duplicitous wording. A "good person" according to who? You? In other words, it's not "being a good person", it's "acting how I want you to". In that case, yes, absolutely, you need to offer compensation. No one is going to act like you want them to for free. The world does not revolve around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 12:05 AM
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You can look that up yourself if you care so much. I'm not here to convince people who are hard set in their own beliefs. This isn't English class, I did my time citing all of my sources in all my papers I've written. You can do the extra work of confirming what you already don't want to believe You: enters debate forum and makes positive claim Me: Source? You: I'm not here to convince people! Do your own research! I don't need to prove my claims! I did my time citing my sources in all my papers…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:59 PM
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So it IS about how attractive they are, not about "emotional intelligence" or whatever smokescreen bullshit, once again substantiating the research that I've posted a billion times already.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:57 PM
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If I'm sexually attracted to men and romantically interested in them, then obvi I like the gender in general. "I can't be racist, my wife is black!" - what you sound like I just have my qualms about certain sub groups of men, like ones who exploit women. But no qualms about women exploiting men - those are "liberated" and a-ok I used to debate academically It doesn't show. Lastly, I do not think you know what true feminism is. All feminism is, are womens' rights, freedoms, and bodily automony. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:56 PM
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You guys pull out all these articles and BS, Scientific studies aren't "articles", you illiterate luddite. Go to school. I don't give a fuck what you SAY you want. I care what the scientific evidence proves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:06 PM
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Unreal the mental gymnastics you "people" will do to keep your lies up. "Unattractive men were never rated as more desirable partners for daughters, even when they possessed the most desirable trait profiles. [...] We conclude that a minimum level of physical attractiveness is a necessity for both women and their mothers" Like, it doesn't get any clearer than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:05 PM
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But far more will say this kind of thing when feeling discouraged by a recent rejection, despite the fact that’s highly unlikely to be the case [citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:28 PM
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Its not "instead" of looks, its everything. There must be attraction Yes, and that attraction must be physical, because that is the only real form of attraction. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-017-0092-x Prior research investigating the mate preferences of women and their parents reveals two important findings with regard to physical attractiveness. First, daughters more strongly value mate characteristics connoting genetic quality (such as physical attractiveness) than their p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:27 PM
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It sounds like women aren’t lying about their preferences but rather you just don’t have those things. No. The science is settled and the deniers are wrong. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-017-0092-x Prior research investigating the mate preferences of women and their parents reveals two important findings with regard to physical attractiveness. First, daughters more strongly value mate characteristics connoting genetic quality (such as physical attractiveness) than their parent…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:22 PM
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But even when you factor these types of people out, there are still a great number of people in loving committed relationships with companions they are emotionally and physically attracted to. [citation needed] So no. I didn't "commit a fallacy" by strictly focusing on the demographic of people who are in happy and loving relationships. Yes you did. First you assumed all "committed" relationships were "happy and loving", which isn't true, and now you're cherry picking only those who are in "happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:18 PM
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Buying a mail order bride is exploitation. If a man feels his only success with women is thru buying their attention, even from those who are believed to have lower standards from impoverished nations, this says more about the dude, and his lack of social skills LOOKS to pull a woman naturally. It's not about """social skills""". The research has proven this already. Your looks are your personality. It's ironic that a man leads with money to get a bride, but yet fears getting taken to the cleane…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:06 PM
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Lol whatever point you were trying to make as a "Gotcha" moment- You failed miserably. I'm sure in your mind, where you can say you care about "emotional" attraction and in the same breath talk about how "middle aged men" will be alone forever, that makes sense. But in reality, everyone can see what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 12:57 PM
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I'm sure when u get into the real.world and find a woman that likes u, your world view will change. Condescension isn't an argument, and doesn't make you look any smarter (unfortunately for you, since you desperately need it)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:49 AM
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You can not say ugly women have it easier just because they get sex, I can and I will. It's not a "debate". The person who wants to eat filet mignon but only gets ground beef is better off than the person who is starving.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:47 AM
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When a person thinks change is worth doing they do it. In other words: "People change when change is incentivized." I'm really not sure what woman you come across but women generally don't care that much for looks, the way men do. This belief is so antiquated and out of touch it's comical. It's 2024. The scientific data has debunked the notion that women "generally don't care that much for looks". https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-017-0092-x Prior research investigating the mate p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:45 AM
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This is a fallacy. There are a great number of men who are in committed relationships with women. No, you are committing a fallacy by assuming that being in a "committed relationship" implies and necessitates physical attraction. There are PLENTY of relationships where the woman is not attracted to the man and is only in it for attention, financial stability, or because he's a convenient tool to be used for whatever other purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:38 AM
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They know if those women became Americanized she has access to a life where she does not need to serve a man, nor depend on one, good looking men Fixed. "Passport bros" are traveling to third world countries because their passport and wallet allow them to buy (yes, buy) attention from desperate, impoverished women who aren't physically attracted to them. When those physically unattractive men bring those women to the US, the women know that they can take the man to the cleaners in divorce court …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:35 AM
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can you give an example of those lies? Claiming that what they are attracted to is "personality", "emotional intelligence", or similar red herring abstractions instead of looks, which is what the scientific data shows. and what will they achieve with them? Preventing men who are not physically attractive from becoming misogynistic when they realize that women consider them unworthy of the Chad treatment. It also has the bonus effect of allowing them to retain credibility when they're in their la…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:28 AM
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I mean, people tend to not want to be with people they don't like ugly people, and the only people who seem to have a problem with that seem to be the people who appear to be unlikeable are ugly, sooo...dunno what to tell you. Say what you mean. Don't hide it behind passive language.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:25 AM
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Ofc women will ignore ugly men. The same way men will ignore ugly women. Yes, of course they will. This isn't a "gotcha". Ugly women do have it easier than ugly men and can at least find someone to have sex with them, but in general, no one wants ugly people. Men scrutinised women since the beginning of time about their appearance, now woman are just returning the favour. Lookism wasn't exclusive to women before the modern age. This is just more bitter radical feminist rhetoric. Women have been …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:21 AM
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People change when they are ready. The ones that don't get left behind and cry about being lonely. People change when change is incentivized. No one is going to change without a reward involved. These men have grievances, whether you want to consider them justified or not. They're not going to change if those grievances aren't redressed. What you're doing is basically just demanding they shut up and expecting them to comply. When men learn what emotional intelligence is, they will get better rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:17 AM
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young men and women's sex partner distributions remaining virtually identical, Nuancepill is a bullshitter. Surveys are not science. The vast majority of young men remain sexually active. The vast majority of young men CLAIM to remain sexually active. Surveys are not science.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:12 AM
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there is a reason the gender ratio is so insanely skewed on dating apps with way more men than women. Yes, it's called gender roles. Women are culturally the sexual selector gender, so they get approached in real life. Men do not, unless they are extremely physically attractive, so physically unattractive men (the rest) have to resort to using the shotgun method on dating apps to maximize their chances of getting ANYTHING at all. Women do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:10 AM
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No matter how attractive he is. [...] Those middle aged men In other words, unattractive men contacted you and your libido "fell off a cliff". So it IS about how attractive they are, not about "emotional intelligence" or whatever smokescreen bullshit, once again substantiating the research that I've posted a billion times already.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:08 AM
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snip at everyone who explains confidence to them What you actually mean by this is people call you out for regurgitating red pill manosphere Andrew Tate bullshit by bringing up scientific studies and statistical data that debunks it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:57 AM
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What unsuccessful men need is to be around successful men learning and observing Just "learn" how to be 6 feet tall and facially attractive - easy as pie!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:55 AM
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The men need to want to be willing to change. Nobody is going to "change" just because you don't like the way they are now. Women have started to ignore men because they are sick of the one sided labour of trying to get men to understand emotional intelligence. Unfortunately the majority of men will be lumped into that, as we cannot distinguish the good vs bad men. Women have started to ignore PHYSICALLY UNATTRACTIVE men. Not good looking ones. "Emotional intelligence" is a red herring intended …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:51 AM
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when you say something not based in reality (such as “I’ll never find a partner” ? How is that "not based in reality"? Do you think all physically undesirable men eventually find someone? You cannot be this divorced from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:37 AM
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won't do the most basic of things you have control over I've been lifting since I was in high school, you dunce. You're just making idiotic assumptions because you have no actual rebuttal and your ideology is based on the just world fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:43 AM
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A man who works out, The gym is not a magic wand. It isn't going to fix a man's receded chin, weak jawline, infraorbital volume deficiency, short height, small penis, etc. but just about everything else can be improved through effort No, it can't. You named TWO (2) things, both of which are largely irrelevant because ANYONE can go to the gym, ANYONE can "dress well", and these things do not address the physical flaws a person can have. They are examples of red ocean markets. It's like, women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 03:25 PM
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invest the effort It's not about "effort", it's about looks. No amount of "effort" will make a short guy 6 feet tall, or facially unattractive men look like male models. No amount of "effort" can fix aesthetic flaws that are innate and essential to a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:24 PM
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or have to put in the work, to get it The foundation of attraction is LOOKS. Not manosphere garbage like "game" or whatever other nonsense. You can't "work" your way to being 6 feet tall and having male model looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:23 PM
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I disagree That's fine - I don't care. The scientific evidence agrees with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:24 AM
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All those studies prove is what we all already know: being attractive helps you in life in many areas. [...] What I’m saying is that other factors also matter NO, you dunce. Are you illiterate? We conclude that a minimum level of physical attractiveness is a necessity for both women and their mothers and that when women and their parents state that other traits are more important than physical attractiveness, they assume potential mates meet a minimally acceptable standard of physical attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:21 AM
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Chemistry is what it feels like when you have great emotional and intellectual compatibility with another person. When you feel like you can speak the same way to each other. When you can make each other laugh and be yourself around them. The only people who don’t believe in chemistry are people who project their own physical insecurities onto others, and reject the evidence all around them in real life that contradicts their misinformed understanding of human interaction. Speaking of evidence: …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:35 AM
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End capitalist society, Lol Women aren't suddenly going to start clamoring for sex with 5'4" men in a communist society, bud. That's not how it works. Some people are just physically unattractive, and when it comes to men, women find MOST of them unattractive. Switching to a different economic mode of production isn't going to change that. The human hindbrain is not a political arena.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:24 AM
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"Chemistry" is a nonsensical rationalization people use to explain their physical attraction to someone's looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:22 AM
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People should be free to enter and leave relationships at will with no legal repercussions for either side. "Girlfriends" and "boyfriends" are fine as long as there are no common-law marriages or equivalent laws artificially imposing government control over the union.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:17 AM
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I do not have time to wade through all these irrelevant profiles. If a man who has liked me hasn't put a lot of thought into his profile and asked me a deep question or shown he's read my profile in an intro message, the chances of me seeing his profile are slim, no matter how compatible we are. This is in nobody's best interests! In addition to wasting everyone involved's time, this is surely driving women off the site. There has to be a better way than this. In the meantime, if you are one of …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:14 AM
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It's not about "masculinity" or any other bullshit like that. It's about looks. Face, height, shoulder width, etc. Good looking men can act however they want. They don't have to adhere to some rigid concept of "masculinity".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:03 AM
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Nothing. Marriage is an antiquated joke and men do not benefit from doing it in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:59 AM
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It’s not easy to find a man that’s attractive, dependable, loyal and has a provider mindset. And in fact when a guy has those qualities he becomes far more attractive than any ig model looking guy could ever be. Lmao. I love how even in your hypothetical, the "dependable, loyal" guy is physically attractive, but then you go on to say that if he's attractive AND all those other things, he becomes more attractive than a guy who's just attractive. Translation: "Nice, loyal Chad is so much better th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:52 AM
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The 6/6/6 thing was literally invented by incels. It’s not something that women require. Do you want to say this to the hordes of women on social media bleating out the "6'5", finance, blue eyes" song for the camera?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:45 AM
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Most women prefer to have casual sex with men we already know You forgot to mention the part where those men you "already know" have to be attractive, and if they aren't attractive, you're not having sex with them, whether they're "classmates", "co-workers", in your "friends circle", or whatever other bullshit. Add in the fact that women consider 80% of men physically unattractive and you immediately see why it makes sense that they would look on apps for casual sex. A bigger pool and they can s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:38 AM
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Sure but a lot of women are intimidated by attractive men and date guys who are much more average [citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:35 AM
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You just need to be the Chad for one woman! That's not how it works. Beauty standards are called STANDARDS for a reason. Chads aren't just Chads for "one woman". They are Chads because they are desired by MOST women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:33 AM
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Because your question is stupid and you're being willfully obtuse. The problem isn't "teaching respect", it's assuming that ALL men need to be taught what they should or should not do while women get to be individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:29 AM
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There is no such thing as a person who does not care about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:27 AM
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The apps are also fully visually determined. Real life interactions are so much more varied and dependent on limitless factors If by "limitless factors" you mean facial bone structure, height, shoulder width, hand size, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:25 AM
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The problem with the concept of "self-improvement" is that the foundation of attraction is looks, not """personality""" or other abstractions, and the things that women are physically attracted to are not attainable through effort, they are innate and essential. You can go to the gym as much as you want - it won't make you taller, change your facial bone structure, clavicle length (biacromial/shoulder width), hand size, penis size, etc. For men who are short, facially unattractive, balding, smal…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:09 AM
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Why the FUCK would I want to go to raceplay forums?! Because you think only men fetishize races, and you are absolutely wrong. Also, love how you didn't respond to me pointing out that women "blurt out" their hatred of unattractive men just as often as men do the reverse. Seethe. Your gender is just as bad if not worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 03:04 PM
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Empathy gap..this what women are talking about. Waaah! Women don't have "eMpAtHy" for physically unattractive men. So why should those men show it to women? And why men should stop calling themselves protecting when they do no such thing. I have never and will never call myself a "protector" of anyone but myself. And outside of redpill manosphere blowhards, I have never heard any other man call himself a "protector" of all women, either. Its should be human and empathetic behavior to help to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:37 PM
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My question is about men selecting women they don’t even want. Yes, men use the shotgun method to try and match with virtually any woman, because most women have infinite options and aren't going to give him the time of day (because he isn't Chad). For the average man, sex with a woman he isn't very attracted to is all he can hope for and better than the alternative, which is permanent involuntary celibacy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:46 AM
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If you correct men but don't correct women, then that's called a sexist double standard. Not that I didn't already know you're a sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:37 AM
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If no one asked you, shut up. The biggest issue is that guys will blurred out their preference when no one asked. Nobody: Men: I hate single moms! Nobody: Men: Younger women are better! Nobody: Men: I like (insert race)! It comes off as attention grabbing. The biggest issue is that women will blurt (that's how you spell that word) out their preference when no one asked. Nobody: Women: I hate short men! Nobody: Women: Small dick energy! Nobody: Women: Balding men are gross! Nobody: Women: I hate …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:35 AM
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So? What's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:23 AM
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So you think people should be hypergamous? Because if you work hard, you deserve an equal or better partner? No one "deserves" a partner. That's not how it works. And you don't seem to understand the concept of hypergamy. A man with high sexual market value (Chad) having multiple partners or high standards isn't "hypergamy". It's supply and demand. Chad is in low supply, but high demand, so he can be as picky as he wants and have a harem if he wants it. But the fact that he's able to do that isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:19 AM
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you’re meant to create a strong social network that trusts you and sees you as the sort of man they’d like to recommend to their single lady friends. Which is idiotic, because it only works if you're physically attractive, and if you're physically attractive then you don't need to join a zumba class or whatever other cringe bullshit to find a woman. At the end of the day, it all comes down to looks. The black pill remains undefeated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:13 AM
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So here’s this woman, clearly feeling unsafe, and she simply asked you to be NEAR her- she didn’t ask you to take a bullet or anything- she just knew she would be safer if she was not alone; she assumed you give a damn about other people. Her mistake I guess? Why is her safety a man's responsibility? It's 2024. If she feels "unsafe", why didn't she remove herself from the situation like OP did? Why is OP required to feel "unsafe" too just so she feels better? What has she ever done for OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:01 AM
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Do you correct men when they say this? Let me guess, you don’t. Why should I be responsible for every stupid thing that comes out of every man's mouth? Do you correct all women when they say misandrist things or shame unattractive men for being unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:58 AM
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but men are still more likely to reject a woman for being a virgin than for not being one. Most men’s reaction is more along the lines of “oh that’s great, but I’m not gonna open that can of worms, bye!” Post a non-anecdotal source for this. There is no logical reason why a man would reject a woman for either a short or long term relationship based on her being a virgin. Being a virgin does not carry a social stigma for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:52 AM
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Men have control over virginity too for themselves ? No they don't. Unless they're willing to commit a crime, no man has "control" over whether or not he's a virgin. No one can control whether any of the people they meet want to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:48 AM
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Because males are not a monolith. "Not a monolith" is a stupid phrase because it pretends that trends and social norms don't exist. This goes for men and women. This whole question feels more like you trying to look for men who would say seeing their female partner get beaten down is an "ick" so you don't have to feel bad that 99.9% of women feel the way the woman in the Joe Rogan video does ("men do it too!")
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:44 AM
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Why is this never brought up when certain men complain that women get so many matches on dating apps. We know men far outnumber women on the apps but many men also seem to just swipe right on every woman, even ones they really don’t want. Do you understand how the sexual market works? Women are the sexual selector gender, not men. The average man does not have infinite partner options like the average woman does. When you aren't Chad, your best chance at finding a female sexual or romantic partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:39 AM
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...And? What is the "gotcha" here? Do you think women aren't swiping right on Chad infinitely more than they do on less attractive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:39 AM
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But it doesn’t matter to them that there are literally millions of average to below average women living in Arkansas or Nebraska working at Wal-mart that would be happy to meet a decent man that simply showers, has a full time job and a working vehicle, that will treat them decently and commit for life. They don’t give a shit if he is 6 foot or has and lmao (I mean maybe if the women are like 5’10) News flash: It doesn't matter where they live. It's 2024. These women all have social media accoun…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:37 AM
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If you saw video of your SO catching a beat down and at some point she clearly gives up on winning and instead goes into a protective survival mode, would you lose respect for her? Lol. It doesn't work that way. No man is going to "get the ick" or get "turned off" if he sees a woman get beaten up. That only happens to women when they see men get beaten down. There's no social expectation for women to be physically dominant or strong or good at beating people up. Why would this even be a question…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:23 AM
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That's not how it works, bud. Women are the sexual selector gender. The sexual market value of even an unattractive woman is astronomically higher than that of her male looksmatch. Women are not starving for partners in such a way that they need to adopt a "first come, first served" approach to their sex lives
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 10:40 PM
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Now, I'm no Chad, Found your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 10:37 PM
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"Good" and "bad" guys are pointless terms. Sexuality and attraction are not based on morality or value judgments.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 10:30 PM
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Platonic interactions and "working on social skills" are red herrings when it comes to interacting with women on a sexual or romantic level. It's founded on the fallacious idea that attraction is based on metaphysical nonsense like "personality", "chemistry", etc - all nonsense that has been thoroughly debunked by behavioral research. Attraction and sexuality is founded on LOOKS. If women aren't interested in you, the problem isn't that you don't have enough female friends or that you're "saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 10:29 PM
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No, she's not going to want you to start randomly flirting with her, but depending on he personality, she might be up for some roleplay, ? Do you seriously think pretending to flirt with someone who isn't interested in you is going to make you any better at real flirting? I don't even know where to start with this. Flirting isn't something you can "roleplay" to learn how to do. This is an idea that might make sense if you're deep in the spectrum or something. It's not how human beings work. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 10:25 PM
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It doesn't prove what you think it proves. Here is what you said: Women value kindness and fairness more That's what I want you to prove. The study you linked does not prove that. Here is what the study "proves": the neural reward system appears to be more sensitive to prosocial rewards in women than in men So there MAY be a neurobiological basis for saying that women's brains are more sensitive to "prosocial rewards". MAYBE. This doesn't prove your positive claim that women "value" kindness and…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:12 PM
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Option 1: Nothing - Men continue complaining about and debating women's standards among themselves, but ultimately, nothing changes. This is what will happen. Option 2: Male self-improvement and community support - Men work together to either grow into the kinds of partners that women want or build connections that support single men. You cannot "self-improve" into the kind of man a woman wants because the kind of man a woman wants is a Chad first and everything else second. You cannot "self-imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:50 PM
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Women value kindness and fairness more Prove it. Crying "misogyny" and citing surveys is not proof. Show objective, reproducible evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:34 PM
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You made a ridiculous assertion so I pointed out how it was ridiculous. You didn't. You made up a strawman and refused to provide evidence substantiating your beliefs. They aren't. PROVE IT. Post social media reels of women thirsting for men with physically unattractive traits and getting the same kinds of reactions and comments as the ones for tall, good looking men. Again, if what you say about women's tastes being diverse is true, THESE SHOULD EXIST. So post them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:09 AM
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Here's a man who survived an execution attempt via lethal injection. Does that mean death by lethal injection isn't a death sentence? Please be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:07 AM
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Don't deflect. If what you say is true, why are women only thirsting over tall, good looking men? Where are the tiktok reels of women worshipping short men? Ugly men? Balding men? Men with bulging eyes? Men with small penises? Men with other traits that we both know are considered undesirable, but that you're pretending aren't? If women's tastes are diverse, those sources should exist, right? So where are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:58 AM
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(which is easily explained by women having narrow, but diverse tastes) Please post some examples of women thirsting over short, balding, receding-jawed, men the way they do over tall pretty boys. If their tastes are diverse, there should be a comparable amount of both, right? So where's the proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:54 AM
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? You mean to tell me you think that if men who are in the top percentiles of other parameters can have sex despite being bald, this somehow disproves that balding is a death sentence in the vast majority of cases? Are you kidding me?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:49 AM
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No, it doesn't. Men here, who complain endlessly about not being able to get dates or sex, frequently write long, unsolicited screeds about how sexually repulsive they find these women. Several problems here: This board has less than 200,000 members, and who knows how many of them are active posters. Just because men here SAY they wouldn't have sex with fat women or single mothers doesn't mean those women wouldn't be able to find willing partners on literally ANY dating app. Speaking of what men…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:45 AM
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It depends. What does his face look like? How tall is he? If he's a model like Jeremy Meeks, he'll be fine. But most men aren't. The fact of the matter is most men do not look good bald. There is a reason why men panic when they start balding and why basically no man WANTS to be bald.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:34 AM
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Judge for what? Attractiveness and sexual value? If so, there's a much easier way to think about this. What are the sexual death sentences for a man? - Short stature - Small penis - Bald or balding - Receding chin - Receding jaw - Suborbital volume deficiency (congenital dark circles/"raccoon eyes") - Eye ptosis List goes on. What are the sexual death sentences for a woman? Virtually none. There is no such thing as a woman that can't find a willing sexual partner or relationship partner because …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:10 AM
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While men are somewhat more libidinous than women on average due to men's testosterone-fueled sex drive (we know that testosterone modulates libido), you are ignoring several key factors about women's sexuality: Women would have no reason to have sex with men who are at or below their looks level even if they were MORE libidinous than men, because they would still be the sexual selector gender due to sociocultural gender norms. Why wouldn't a turbo-horny girl just boot up Tinder and swipe right …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:50 AM
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When it comes to sexlessness in the past year, the rate is closer to 20% for men and women. There are many problems with this "nuancepill" user. I've seen anti-blackpillers cite this poster again and again as some kind of trump card against the black pill, and it's actually kinda clever, because this person clearly knows their way around statistical methods, so it's very convincing on its face. However, here are just a few of the issues I mentioned: Selective source citation: This person uses on…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:39 AM
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I really doubt any woman would rather get an STD, unwanted pregnancy, Neither of these risks are unique to women or assault Assault is not manipulation to have sex under "false terms". It is an application of physical violence. Someone who is assaulting you is not "tricking" you into having sex with them, they are physically forcing you to do it by using violence. The equivalent scenario for a man would be getting beaten by a woman brandishing a baseball bat and having his wallet stolen so she c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 12:11 AM
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This is subjective. You think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 11:45 PM
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multiple studies have shown women are more likely to express and value kindness and fairness, Surveys. Multiple SURVEYS have shown it. From your links: https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2020.1201#d1e459 In Study 1, the data were collected on an online research platform (YourMorals.org) for research on moral and political psychology. [...] Study 2's dataset included 11 969 participants in 19 countries. The data were provided by individual researchers from these countries, having…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 11:41 PM
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Become a good looking guy then. You know that exercise That's not how it works, bud. There's no gym for your face or your height. What matters is your bone structure, not how many hours you piss away lifting weights. I say this as someone who has been lifting for over a decade. I can't help but chuckle when "redpill" types instantly respond with "go lift bro!!!!" when people bring up looks. It's adorable. "Redpill" manosphere 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 10:59 PM
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“Porn abuse disorder” may not be psychologically recognized, but porn is most definitely addictive. Anything that produces dopamine can be. It may not generate physical dependence, but it definitely has the potential to create an emotional and psychological dependence - very oftentimes indicative of something underlying. You can repeat that 'till you're blue in the face, but scientists and psychiatrists do not agree. The data does not agree. I'm not concerned with pseudoscientific conjectures ("…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 07:16 PM
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Yes, men with stepsister fetishes would absolutely have sex with their stepsisters if they had one and she was attractive. You keep asking what you think are "gotcha" questions that actually have very simple answers. It's laughable. IQ of a sea urchin
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 07:13 PM
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Whether it's common or not is irrelevant. You are shifting goalposts. There is a subset of a men who do want to have sex with horses. It doesn't matter how big it is. The broader point is that those men masturbate to those things because they are genuinely sexually attracted to them, just like women masturbate to Christian Grey because they're genuinely sexually attracted to men like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 06:53 PM
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in real life, men wanna fuck horses, they wanna fuck bunnies, they wanna fuck their stepsister, and they wanna fuck 7 foot women who kidnap men to drink their blood? There are people in real life who want to have sex with animals, yes. Zoophilia is a real thing. Attraction to anthropomorphized animals is also a real thing. Furries dress up in fur suits and have sex in real life, yes. And yes, there are plenty of men in real life with femdom fetishes who want to be dominated by tall women. Any ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 06:51 PM
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A bunch of guys also like sexualizing fictional ponies, does that say something about what they’re attracted to? Yes, it absolutely does. Zoophilia is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 06:47 PM
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There is. The place is saying there’s no porn addiction just plain there’s an obsession with porn, which is not different. https://fherehab.com/learning/pornography-addiction-stats A blog post on a single, very marginal "rehab clinic" is not scientific evidence. Did you even read your "source" before you cited it? Here is a direct citation from it: Pornography addiction and sex addiction aren’t listed as mental health disorders in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 06:47 PM
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And alot of guys jack off to: What's the point of this whataboutism? Yes, those men are attracted to those things. That's why they masturbate to it. What point do you think you're making here? Millions of real-life women furiously masturbating to a story about a billionaire BDSM Chad dominating a woman absolutely says something about their sexual tastes and what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 06:40 PM
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The most common form this ‘fiction = reality’ thing comes in is men using 59 Shades Of Grey to say ‘women like bad boys’. Like, how many women you see in real life dating abusive rich men. Another bizarre, idiotic take from you. First, women being unable to date men like Christian Grey in real life does not in any way prove that they aren't attracted to those men. Second, the real argument about 50 Shades of Grey is not that women like "bad boys". It's that women like Chad. The book describes hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 06:28 PM
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How are you going to deny that porn addicts exist when former porn addicts talk about their addiction to porn? This is begging the question. "Porn addicts" do not exist. There is no scientific evidence that they exist. "Former porn addicts" are really "people who BELIEVE they were addicted to porn" talking about how they BELIEVE they were addicted to porn. Prove that "porn addiction" is real first. I don't care what a bunch of scientifically illiterate puritan luddites believe. I care about hard…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 06:15 PM
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And yet most men get pussy. Incorrect: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/08/for-valentines-day-5-facts-about-single-americans/ Roughly six-in-ten young men report being single. Overall, three-in-ten U.S. adults are single, meaning they are not married, living with a partner or in a committed romantic relationship. This share has not changed since the Center asked this question in 2019. [...] When looking at age and gender together, 63% of men under 30 describe themselves as single,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 06:08 PM
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No it affects men far more by feeding into a porn addiction. "Porn addiction" is junk science peddled by right-wing manosphere ideologues. There is no such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 06:05 PM
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Being manipulated into paying for someone’s drinks on false terms isn’t as bad as being manipulated to have sex on false terms. This is subjective. You think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 06:01 PM
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4873083/ Research on personality has shown that perceiving a person as attractive fosters positive expectations about his/her personal characteristics. Literature has also demonstrated a significant link between personality traits and occupational achievement. Present research examines the combined effects of attractiveness, occupational status, and gender on the evaluation of others’ personality, according to the Big Five model. The study consisted of a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 05:55 PM
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he told a woman who is unattractive that she has no other options but to be attractive. The same applies for men. They don't have any other options either. What is the "own" here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 03:12 PM
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Women give men a chance though ? What are you talking about? We live in the age of social media. Physically unattractive men are more undesirable and sexless now than ever. Women are not "giving men a chance".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 03:09 PM
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"Chemistry" is looks. You calling it anything other than looks is rationalizing your attraction to his looks. My partner was objectively not the most attractive man in the room when we met but his grin and easygoing vibe This is exactly what it looks like when someone is trying to rationalize.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 03:05 PM
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Lol. None of that matters. It's about looks. Women approach good-looking, tall men a lot. Women hound good-looking tall men's every step on any platform they can find them on. If you're not getting approached by women, it's not because of any of the things you're saying. It's because you're not attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:37 PM
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Women have fangirled Matt Smith and Benedict Cumberbatch, ugliness is no barrier. Cumberbatch isn't ugly. The fact that anyone thinks he is indicates how ridiculously high the standards are for men's facial aesthetics. Also, "fangirling" about celebrities is not what I am referring to when I say: social media reels of women worshipping tall, conventionally attractive white men. What I am referring to is women posting openly lustful, thirsty messages about facially attractive, tall men who are ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:31 PM
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Show me one average woman (no 21-25 yo ig models or bottle girls) who doesn’t have to reimburse her boyfriend/fiance for the things he gets for her. "I cannot prove that X exists, so you prove that it doesn’t. If you can’t, X exists." That's not how burden of proof works. Is this really a debate forum? Are you a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:19 PM
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Go work at a date night restaurant. This isn't an argument Ask women. Or just ask any server. Unsubstantiated claims and anecdotes are not evidence. I can't believe I even have to explain this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:16 PM
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It’s similar to how when a man gets her flowers, she will venmo him back for it. It doesn’t come “free”, she essentially pays for it. Congratulations - this is the single most delusional, laughably ridiculous claim I've seen posted on this board.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 04:44 AM
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Men are the ones who are upset that they don’t appeal to women [...] Men routinely say they’re unhappy with their lives so I think they should try making their house look nice. Did I miss something? Men are upset that women don't want them because they aren't physically attractive... so they should go out and brainlessly buy a hoard of worthless trinkets and baubles to fill their house with? What kind of incoherent, garbage reasoning is this? How is vapid consumerism going to make physically una…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 04:41 AM
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No they don’t because they ask for separate checks Do you have any evidence of this or are we just supposed to take your word for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 04:31 AM
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Ok, and what happens when no "girls in their own league" want them because they're too busy getting their backs blown out by tall, good looking guys they met on Tinder or Bumble or whatever?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:38 AM
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Women aren't entitled to a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:35 AM
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Men don't owe women anything either, but you're all over a bunch of different boards' comment sections whining about how men need to be better for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:33 AM
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So what standards are men here always complaining women have? Height and facial bone structure, wide shoulders, etc. All immutable physical traits that are genetically determined. Why is the evidence a flipping Tiktok? 🤔 Stop falling for rage bait. Tiktok reels are being used as an example here. Don't derail the conversation. Stay on topic. It's a simple ask. if women's tastes are so diverse and actually amount to character traits rather than immutable physical ones, please show me tiktok reels …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:41 PM
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why is women drooling on tiktok the metric you are using to determine whether women like a man's character? It isn't. It is the metric I am using to gauge women's attraction to men. It's not complicated. Women enthusiastically worship physically attractive, tall men on Tiktok, openly flaunting their attraction to them. Since women claim they are attracted to "is nice to me", emotionally intelligent and takes care of himself. Then there should be similar phenomena for those type of men. I'm askin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:03 PM
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America is a christian nation This is such a dumb dogwhistle lmao just say the 14 words or whatever other white nationalist bullshit instead
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:20 PM
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What’s the point of sex if not to connect with another person? Pleasure. You people are just hedonists using people as fleshlights So what if they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:13 PM
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It's infinitely cheaper to try to date girls your age then blow money on escorts. Ok, and what happens when no "girls their age" want them because they're too busy getting their backs blown out by tall, good looking guys they met on Tinder or Bumble or whatever?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:42 PM
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The irrefutable fact is most men date, have sex, form relationships, etc. [...] You can wheel out all the "abundant evidence and statistics" you want (which in practice, is the same Psychology Today article posted over and over again), but if you are struggling to date, then you are in a minority, I'm struggling to understand how you derisively dismiss "abundant evidence and statistics" that don't conform to your worldview, but at the same time feel confident making a positive claim like "most m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:27 PM
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Those aren't women's actual standards. The problem here is that women CLAIM their standards amount to "is nice to me", emotionally intelligent and takes care of himself. But neither the behavioral nor anecdotal/observational EVIDENCE supports these claims. Simple challenge - if women's tastes are so diverse and actually amount to character traits rather than immutable physical ones, please show me tiktok reels of women drooling over and worshipping conventionally unattractive, "emotionally intel…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:24 PM
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Society has decided otherwise. ? What are you talking about? What society is this where people are entitled to food and water? Last I checked, I have to pay for those things when I want them, and if I can't pay, then I can't have them. So how am I "entitled" to those things? And many societies around the world do not guarantee their constituents the same set of human rights that are taken for granted in places like the United States - even in the United States, those rights are not guaranteed fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:21 PM
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The fact that the majority of blue pillers not only downplay but outright deny [...] Are you the majority of bluepillers? No. So how is it a "no true scotsman" fallacy? The claim isn't that "only actual bluepillers" do what he's saying. It's that the majority of them DO.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:15 PM
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