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It’s easy mode. Late 30s what shocks me is while I thought I was aging out, I’ve been merely been becoming more and more popular to a large segment of women. Almost more popular with younger girls than older ones But I’m also successful and maintain my health so women all say I look late 20s early 30s
/r/seduction30/06/26 02:36 AM
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An airplane relationship is basically a trope. Fly enough and you’ll experience these sorts of things more than once. Best buds, girl sleeping on your shoulder, etc - ends the moment you get off the plane.
/r/seduction22/06/26 02:59 AM
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Nowhere did I explicitly say that nobody needs a different method. It should be clear that we are talking in generalizations. On the contrary, it appears that you and others are saying some sort of bookish study is that only or best way to “improve”. It is my opinion that I think too many men in subs like this are focused on min-maxing or overthinking details before they have developed more fundamental aspects of themselves. For men who in particular have some learning or social impairments, the…
/r/seduction16/06/26 09:38 AM
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You’re not even going to pass N5 without some flash cards, textbook, or other learning material. Let’s stop being obstinate here. Vast majority of humanity figured out how to get laid without those things
/r/seduction16/06/26 09:30 AM
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I got better simply through socializing more and feeling what worked and what didn’t. It was mostly nothing like how I studied and learned things like language, sports, music, career skills, etc
/r/seduction16/06/26 09:01 AM
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Now you’re just agreeing with me - social skills are absorbed, not studied. There is a simple feedback loop one gets when reflecting a bit about their interactions throughout the day. Again, people do this normally. They don’t need coaches or teachers to realize they’ve said or done something awkward, or said something that people thought was cool or funny. I think you need to go back and read the topic title and OP. Nobody said to not think or reflect. What was said was to not treat interaction…
/r/seduction16/06/26 08:39 AM
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Okay so for one, let’s step back, basketball is a terrible analogy. In fact, most sports are. Talking to people isn’t a sport, there is no opponent. The fact that people on this sub even think this way about talking to women or anyone really says everything. Seriously, people who think this way probably need to socialize way more.
/r/seduction16/06/26 08:10 AM
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Pretty much. It takes a while, but the real lesson most people need to learn is when it’s confusing or difficult, the other person isn’t that interested. Also being completely non-needy is paramount.
/r/seduction16/06/26 07:58 AM
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Except analyzing all these situations is like taking a pencil and paper at home to calculate the physics of how to play basketball instead of just going to play and maybe having some people who are also decent who see you in action to give some feedback. The reality is being a “natural” is just someone who has thousands more hours speaking and interacting with people in social situations. You don’t need coaches or books to do this, you just go do it and you will learn
/r/seduction16/06/26 07:46 AM
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Honestly I think it matters less about these arbitrary ratings and more about people simply liking a certain type. For example, the body type I’m attracted to is probably really different than you and many guys. It sounds like you just figure out more what your type is.
/r/seduction09/06/26 09:19 PM
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Because most people don’t care that much about body compared to face. People would rather be with someone with a 9 face and 6 body than 6 face and 9 body.
/r/seduction09/06/26 08:05 PM
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The shaming and excuses against dating younger women is specifically some sort of odd western or American cope. I’ve been spending a lot of time in China and it’s refreshing how women literally don’t care how old you are and older men are regularly publicly dating, beautiful younger women. Like women won’t even ask your age - they mainly care that you’re put together and successful and kind. Being in my upper 30s, I’ve tried dating women in their mid 30s and while they’re a bit more interesting,…
/r/seduction19/05/26 01:01 PM
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I’ve brushed besides the higher tier a bit and guys who date the higher tiers consistently. The key difference is money and status. Only the youngest girls care so much about perfect looks. There are some average or worse looking guys doing really well because they have and live a baller lifestyle and social status from being rich and successful. It’s made me realize my biggest failing has been not to advertise such a lifestyle myself on Instagram etc. I never post on social media which has arti…
/r/seduction18/05/26 03:25 PM
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Stop overthinking. In fact, stop thinking.
/r/seduction14/05/26 11:22 AM
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That’s not readability. It’s overly verbose and repetitive ways to state a simple idea.
/r/seduction29/04/26 10:45 AM
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A lot of those women straight up suck. I can afford these women, and they are often very pretty, but most of the time they have an arrogant and entitled attitude that’s a huge turn off. Usually spoiled models or spoiled rich girls (from dad, not self made - though not all are spoiled).
/r/seduction28/04/26 03:18 AM
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Almost 40 here. Have been pulling more 20-30 year old women than ever from clubs and apps in the last couple years. Biggest eye opener is how many women don’t mind a big age gap whatsoever if you’re attractive in the right ways. It’s shocking how many girls under 25 who are interested in older guys. I remember when I was 35 and had just gotten out of a long relationship I thought I was too old. How wrong I was.
/r/seduction28/04/26 02:55 AM
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I’m on the other side of this as a guy who dates a lot. Every first date is good because I’m good at conversation, vibe, and choosing a chill place. Girls nearly always would like to see me again. But because I have a lot of options and experience, I basically will only go for a second date if I’m more excited about a girl. Just being attractive or having a good convo isn’t enough. Sometimes a girl will be hot but her personality sucks (common), other times a girl will be interesting and have a …
/r/seduction17/04/26 01:13 AM
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I’ve read a bunch of your responses in this thread and you seem very defensive. Closed to feedback and you think you already know up from down when honestly you’re closer to clueless. So my feedback is to genuinely open your mind and take all advice and try some of it and see what works. Stop thinking you know so much. Stop retorting back with an explanation for why. Insecurity often causes people to be this way. The trick to being less insecure is building confidence by building success in your…
/r/seduction11/04/26 11:13 PM
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Which cultural backgrounds?
/r/seduction10/04/26 05:14 PM
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Night Elf probably
/r/seduction09/04/26 08:47 AM
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So now we’re at the stage of making AI copy paste seem like it’s authentic by replacing “you” with “u” huh
/r/seduction31/03/26 09:24 AM
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"After the date we exchanged a few positive texts" I called once a few days later and sent one follow-up message, but still no response at all. What confuses me is the contrast between how positive everything felt I can tell that you got too giddy and excited about her. After a good date your vibes and energy should neutral. It shows you could take her or leave her. When you act super excited, most people (even men), start getting "this person seems a bit desperate / too excited / can't do any b…
/r/seduction09/03/26 03:34 AM
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A subtle one that I think is good is makeup remover. Have it among your other bathroom toiletries. I think hair ties are decent if they’re among that stuff too but I wouldn’t go out of my way to “plant” them. With things like earrings and more personal items, you’re pushing it a bit with girls with self esteem. Take it further, would you leave out panties on the bed? But I like makeup remover because it’s actually intentional and not something staged or that I’m trying to “fake hide”. I literall…
/r/seduction03/03/26 08:39 PM
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Body count mostly doesn’t matter. What matters is mental health and maturity. Yes, if someone has slept with a huge number of people in a short period, they likely have issues. I stopped counting mine a decade ago, and don’t ever ask women, because I don’t care. Men who ask and care are insecure as hell imo. Date enough and you’ll have a good sense on who is a stable and responsible person and who isn’t (I.e. mature stable adult vs a basket case with BPD).
/r/seduction03/03/26 06:20 PM
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I agree it’s not optimal for men, only because women place too much meaning on these things. What I was pushing back on was the idea of people, men or women, deleting, blocking, etc people because they got emotional or otherwise that someone didn’t “respond in time”, “the right way”, etc. Like, just give people a chance, don’t think about it too much. I’ve gone on dates with people who ignored me then suddenly responded months later. Life happens, you never know if they have a family issue, are …
/r/seduction18/02/26 09:20 PM
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Sure, that’s one way, but not every follows all the same little mental rules that people have made up for themselves My point is that people way over microanalyze these tiny messaging interactions with someone who is essentially a stranger and has zero to low investment. How fast or slow they respond really doesn’t matter before you know them. The only clear message is zero response. The most important thing is action - whether or not someone actually will show up for a date or not and continue …
/r/seduction18/02/26 08:40 PM
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Longer than a day and you give up? People get busy you know. I honestly only like to initiate or have conversations when I have some free time to sit down and give my attention, not just fire one while I’m running around.
/r/seduction18/02/26 06:39 PM
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Number one tip with pursuing women: don't overthink or microanalyze anything. Just shoot your shots and keep moving forward. When someone is interested they will allow you the grace to make mistakes, while when someone isn't that interested, there will be too much friction. Being confused when pursuing someone is a fantastic indicator that it's not really working and that one should remove energy from it. At most, put in no more energy than them. If they end up coming around, fine. But it's far …
/r/seduction15/02/26 06:51 PM
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If anything you’re too young lol. As you get older you’ll be shocked at how women either don’t care that you’re much older or they even prefer it. I’m pushing 40 and still go to bars and clubs here and there. If anything it’s gotten way easier. But you do need to have success that matches or surpasses your age. Women care about status and money more than age.
/r/seduction10/02/26 01:56 AM
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There’s two main ways to generally approach dating. Go with your gut and don’t continue when you sense it’s likely not a match. Or just go with the flow and see what happens. The former saves you time because usually we can tell when it’s not going to work - better if you want a serious relationship asap. The later can give you some interesting memories and experiences - better if you just like enjoying life.
/r/seduction14/01/26 08:48 AM
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Don’t introduce. It’s one thing if girls see you with other girls, there’s mystery and plausible deniability. But when you introduce a girl to another you’re basically saying, this is my girlfriend, and kind of rubbing it in the other girl’s face.
/r/seduction08/01/26 01:18 PM
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Im definitely not against it and continue to do it, but I’d add that ideally guys try to make guy or girl friends at the venue that they can go with in the future
/r/seduction06/01/26 01:40 AM
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Okay, “waste of time” was probably too far. Sometimes I speak to what I think might be true for the average guy. I’ve gone out solo a lot in the past few years, and I just find it to be far, far less efficient and successful than when I simply have one friend. It probably depends on your venue, targets, looks, etc. I tend to go to clubs where social status and groups are more the norm
/r/seduction02/01/26 08:47 PM
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Social status is equally if not more important than looks depending on the venue, like some nightclubs that have regulars. I’ve gone solo tons of times and can safely say it’s basically a waste of time because of the vibes it puts off. Even when you find a guy or two at the venue to be your wingman, people can sense when it’s artificial. Simply going with one or more people who are truly my friends changes the subconscious vibes for everyone involved so much that it’s like easy mode. Women are i…
/r/seduction02/01/26 08:28 PM
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The copium downvotes
/r/seduction02/01/26 07:07 PM
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While you at least say to focus on multiple women, this sounds like too much investment for any one person, and a slippery slope to oneitis for a less disciplined person.
/r/seduction26/12/25 02:45 AM
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Ended up writing a small book of thoughts, don't take this too personally - it's hard to know the vibe and chemistry you already have with this girl from one message. I just have a ton of opinions from tons of experience. * Overall feels overboard - you just met her, keep responses lower energy and casual * Avoid "haha" unless she's also spamming them and response chemistry is high - "how could I forget" specifically sounds like you're already really invested in her * "did a life dump on me" mak…
/r/seduction09/12/25 08:14 PM
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If you have enough experience you won’t believe in strict leagues. I’ve dated tons of girls “out of my league” - maybe that’s most of the girls I date, if you believe in such a theory. If you reduce “league” to mainly about looks, I promise you she was less attractive than many girls I’ve dated. She was a career focused finance girl in nyc, about 30 years old (younger than me), without ever having had a real relationship, except one situationship with a guy who by her words was somewhat abusive.…
/r/seduction07/12/25 08:31 PM
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Feel the same way. It surprises me, but somehow I’ve gotten to the point where 99% of first dates will end up with the girl interested in me, and I can go as far as I want with continuing to date her. Downside is I’ve done so much dating over 3 years and have so much experience that it’s hard to commit due to desensitization or too much comparison. There was ONE girl in the past two years that rejected me after a few dates. Why? Because I actually got really excited about her and I’m pretty sure…
/r/seduction07/12/25 07:42 PM
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This was written by AI
/r/seduction27/11/25 06:59 PM
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You need to prioritize yourself too. Girls who are too nice and patient with men can get strung along for sex. But rather than trying to force things or let out all your feelings, I recommend pulling back. Along with the advice of only going for relationships that are simple and just work, another thing that's good to do in dating / complicated situations is only put in as much effort, energy, caring, etc as the other person - not more. Stuff like "[he] takes forever to talk to me", just means y…
/r/seduction17/11/25 03:21 AM
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This would probably be better in a different sub. But, the answer is simple really. When things are confusing, especially if it's getting to your mental health, it's best to just let it go. Why? Because when people really like you, it will be simple and straightforward. People who send mixed messages just aren't that interested. You're young so you haven't learned this life lesson yet, but the pattern will always be the same. Also, try to avoid people with mental health issues that they haven't …
/r/seduction17/11/25 03:11 AM
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Let me give you some advice. Once you get older, say upper 30s, you're going to realize just how young you were. And dumb to think you were "too old". I'm guessing this effect keeps continuing as we age, at least for people wise enough to realize the things holding you back are in your own mind. I'm in my upper 30s, and the biggest shock is that women in their 20s, yes even as young as 20, will still be interested in me. There are tons of women who find older men very attractive. Focus on improv…
/r/seduction16/11/25 02:10 AM
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And it’s obvious AI
/r/seduction12/11/25 12:03 AM
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I don’t give them money. I just believe in good first impressions. Every date after that can be cheap or free
/r/seduction25/10/25 05:10 PM
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I mean if the only goal is to get laid and go for the lowest hanging fruit due to an imbalance in desire, sure. If you want the highest quality people who have a ton of options, good luck.
/r/seduction25/10/25 12:54 AM
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Sure, but this is a sub for people who need all the help they can get. There’s no doubt an absolute chad can say “hi. Come over” and win, but it isn’t exactly great advice for people who are struggling. The average guy who struggles shouldn’t default to boring coffee dates that every other guy thinks he’s a genius for proposing. Most women really appreciate a date with a little bit more thought let alone expense.
/r/seduction25/10/25 12:42 AM
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I simply believe these things are indivisible and a fantasy of western culture that your “personality” is enough. Imagine taking a job interview holding back by acting half as smart or hiding half your resume. Or a girl showing up for a date with no makeup and wearing a garbage bag. The reality of society is we are competing and have to show our full capacity. In dating you should go all in. If you don’t someone else will and take the spot.
/r/seduction25/10/25 12:28 AM
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Frankly I have a basically 100% success rate with women I meet because the average guy is cheap as hell. Easier for me.
/r/seduction25/10/25 12:10 AM
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Counter-point: many guys dream of type 1 - where the girl likes him even if he’s broke and spends $0 on some pisswater free coffee. While many girls dreams of a guy who is rich and an extravagant date is an afterthought of a casual unplanned moment for him. It’s best to meet somewhere in the middle.
/r/seduction25/10/25 12:07 AM
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I think there’s roughly three choices: become more attractive (lifting, money, popularity, surgery, etc), lower your standards, or change to a different dating market
/r/seduction09/09/25 06:25 AM
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You'll save yourself a lot of frustration and hurt in dating if you focus on people who are genuinely eager to meet you instead of those who make excuses. When someone really likes you, you'll know. When it's confusing, you're either a temporary backup option until they find someone better, or you're being politely declined. People will move mountains to spend time with people they are excited about.
/r/seduction08/09/25 11:06 PM
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Sure, I can add more to my sentence, which would be, “when they aren’t even reciprocating”. It’s not only a waste of time but counterproductive to go all in and be needy towards someone who is showing minimal to no attraction towards you
/r/seduction25/08/25 05:25 AM
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Yes men are different, it’s probably cute for most of us
/r/seduction25/08/25 12:22 AM
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Never focus on one girl. Ultimate advice to avoid being needy and fumbling.
/r/seduction25/08/25 12:12 AM
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It’s because you want a girlfriend too badly. We can all sense it through a few messages here on the internet. Girls will sniff it out real fast. Just look at the way you idealize your relationship by comparing it almost to the high of drugs. You can pull girls, so you’re clearly attractive enough. Here’s a tip: just make living life and having fun your goal; and when you meet the next girl you kinda like, just keep meeting new ones instead of developing a crush. It sucks and dumb that it works …
/r/seduction29/07/25 12:12 PM
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Yeah, it’s just human nature. We’re all selfish with love…
/r/seduction29/06/25 01:21 AM
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“It’s not X; Its Y” is the pattern it can’t help but using.
/r/seduction09/06/25 12:56 PM
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It’s interesting how seemingly every woman I’ve slept with in the first, second date, whatever, hasn’t slept with anyone in like half a year or more. I never ask, don’t care, but they always say this stuff proactively.
/r/seduction05/06/25 05:23 PM
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Technically correct tho
/r/seduction31/05/25 07:29 PM
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The cause and effect are a feedback loop and sometimes the chicken and egg won’t be clear. If you’ve dated a lot you’ve had the experience where you’ve become more attracted to someone immediately after they reject you or less attracted immediately after they got super clingy irrespective of how hot or not you initially felt they were. And you can experience this from their direction towards you as well. Is it rational? No. So we shouldn’t pretend it’s as logical as who is more or less desirable…
/r/seduction30/05/25 09:28 AM
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It just means you’re not in the top choice list. Move on. You’ll know this if you have too many choices of women too. Only so many days in the week
/r/seduction23/05/25 05:56 PM
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Yes this is the only answer. Love yourself first. This means do things to improve your own life for YOU. Go to bed early and wake up early because it means respecting yourself to get proper sleep. Exercise because taking care of your body and health is loving yourself. Dress well because you have a style you want to have and feel. Learn because it’s fun, etc. these things will be different from everyone, but you just have to ask yourself if you’re proud of who you are and the actions you take.
/r/seduction16/05/25 03:39 PM
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She's either been showing you that she likes you for a long time and you're clueless, or far more likely, she the dangerous type of girl who is super coquettish with men who they see as "just friends". The best move is just to go for other women instead of having oneitis. Having some other girl like you and be with you is probably the only way a girl like this will want you romantically anyway. Not that's what you'd do it for.
/r/seduction10/05/25 02:39 AM
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You can still get lifetime? Although I’m not sure I’d prefer that, because deleting and recreating premium accounts gives such a good boost
/r/seduction09/05/25 08:33 AM
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Completely agree with this. Only after you’ve dated countless people can you truly appreciate when you meet someone that truly fits you. I get the feeling that a lot of men who only met a few women before settling down tend to have lingering uncertainty and doubt.
/r/seduction06/05/25 07:07 PM
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Nah, he doesn’t. I haven’t gotten this one in a long time because I’m past my college bar and party days, but a woman saying this was practically an invitation to make out on the spot and usually more. This sub has really fallen off.
/r/seduction06/05/25 01:54 AM
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Don’t forget plastic surgery. Lots of people have no clue or simply in denial about how common plastic surgery is. A lot of these girls were on or below “your level” and still have the underlying self esteem to match
/r/seduction16/04/25 07:32 PM
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Like with everything there is a balance. If most guys only did the nerdy hobbies they like they will meet zero women regardless of how they act. See: video games, trading cards, etc
/r/seduction28/03/25 08:52 PM
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Attraction is based on way more than just looks. And different people find different things attractive. People who judge a couple based on outward appearance come off as either childish, insecure, or uneducated imo
/r/seduction17/01/25 02:12 AM
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I think this is true for men too, we just experience it less often. Have experienced this a few times recently. One girl went from “shes too hot for me” to “uh something is off with her” after getting really needy really fast.
/r/seduction03/01/25 08:46 PM
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Listen to me carefully: get out of Seattle. I’m doing better than dating than I could have imagined right now, yet while I was dating in Seattle I felt invisible.
/r/seduction23/12/24 04:36 AM
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No need to ask them where they live or see if it’s okay for them. Exactly how I word it depends on the flow of the conversation up to that point, but generally something like “how about we chat more over food this X or Y evening?” Then sometimes I’ll just share the Google maps link to the restaurant i want to go to. I usually pick nice restaurants with a good vibe for a date. I would say “somewhere like here: “ then they’ll usually just say “looks good”, “that works”, and if not they’ll say “can…
/r/seduction03/10/24 10:48 PM
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Fizzling out convos is basically why I just ask girls out asap. I have a pretty good question opener that is easy to answer and also implies our intention to meet each other for a date. Gets about 50-50 response, but if they do, odds are high they’ll say yes to a date with me within a few exchanges. I don’t really try to be funny, and I wouldn’t say I flirt. I definitely don’t compliment. Just some mild question about them or statement to at least pass the “this guy is normal” vibe check. Maybe …
/r/seduction03/10/24 10:23 PM
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The answer is very simple. Chill with this stuff. Trust me when I say girls will want you more when you say less after a meeting. You’re way better off saying too little than too much. I’ve learned to basically just say “hope you got home safely”. I don’t say “had a great time!” “Let’s meet again soon!”. Or any of that enthusiastic, or worse, sexual/romantic crap that can too easily come off as needy. I’ll usually message them again in a day or two to set up another date. Leave enthusiasm and pl…
/r/seduction28/07/24 04:58 AM
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Hey it does hurt and will for years. For me it was simply a girl who was super sweet and loving. Time will heal this, even if you don’t want it to. Your post reveals a lot of insecurity about your status and wealth compared to other men. You can do two things: better yourself to a point you’re personally proud of, and stop comparing yourself, because there is always a bigger fish. If you were a multi-millionaire, you’d go on dates with women who have dated ceo founders with billion dollar compan…
/r/seduction23/07/24 12:00 AM
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Oh no! Anyway
/r/seduction20/07/24 10:22 PM
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Therapy is one option. This post says a lot about you, you base your self-worth on superficial things that you want to show off and gain validation from others - your money, your face, your body, the looks of the girl you're with. Were you raised by strict parents who taught you your worth is based on societal accomplishment and their validation? Perhaps you've never done something deeper, for yourself, that only you know about that makes you proud of yourself and you don't need to share on soci…
/r/seduction20/07/24 08:01 PM
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lol I have so much success with dinner and drinks + a walk after or whatever. Time to up your charm stat and have someone intrigued by you just from talking- I can have fun and make it fun even when the girl is shy or not what I expected. Ordering food together and trying food is a great activity. You can serve and feed each other. You can pick restaurants with couches or booths and sit right next to each other. You can pick nice restaurants and show off by paying because most guys are cheap. Ma…
/r/seduction01/07/24 07:19 PM
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Bad advice. You don’t always have go on dinner dates but it’s a very powerful play depending on your style and goals. Filter better - I don’t understand all these guys who aren’t sure about a woman before they meet them. Women actually tell me how nice it is that I take them to dinner when so many guys do a low coffee investment, and it’s obvious it greatly increases their attraction. Yes - if you really don’t like the girl, you’ve saved a bit of investment. But if she’s pretty and cool, you’ve …
/r/seduction01/07/24 07:50 AM
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Honestly Manhattan is easy mode for men. I traveled around to different cities last year and it was crazy how easy dating apps, meeting prettier than usual women, same day lays etc were in Manhattan. What people say about the gender imbalance making it easier for men in NYC is absolutely true. Felt like lots of pretty successful women putting in way more effort to meet up and being excited about guys who would be mid in other places.
/r/seduction12/05/24 06:15 AM
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I dated for a few weeks in nyc and my experience was just like what you describe. So many beautiful, smart, successful women willing to meet. It’s literally the polar opposite of Seattle where it’s thousands of tech guys fighting over a few women. Even mid women just straight up don’t respond.
/r/seduction25/04/24 08:10 AM
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OLD is fish in a barrel if your profile appeals to your target audience. There are plenty of posts from guys who have an endless stream of success from OLD.
/r/seduction07/02/24 05:07 AM
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Yes, I'm curious too, what is your plan with Snapchat?
/r/seduction01/05/14 10:52 PM
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Ah, that wasn't clear to me before, but I can see how that is what was meant. That makes the result a bit less interesting.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 12:25 AM
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What? I think there is some confusion here. This likely means lowest as in least attractive. Why else were they asked to self evaluate? If not, then the data has been presented in a vague and ambiguous way.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/14 10:04 PM
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I think there have been studies that show a certain level of tiredness is similar to being drunk.
/r/seduction19/02/14 07:36 AM
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If you're not sure, she doesn't. And this is how I threw away a number of opportunities in the past.
/r/seduction04/01/14 07:41 AM
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I'm curious, do people here think attractive, interesting guys who are on a date where the woman is into them is going to majorly destabilize their position by paying for a date? (Granted it's not something obviously beta-overkill wining and dining) If anything the bigger gamble is making it confusing and awkward by trying to split. Taking the check and paying is dominate and easy. It's easy enough to say, "hey, I invited you, I got it." If the date went well. By all means, if it sucked, do whic…
/r/seduction30/12/13 09:23 AM
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When someone is extremely attractive, it doesn't matter that much. You can be the most confident fulfilled guy, and the odds of women approaching you if you're ugly is very very low. If you pay attention to even this thread, you'll see success stories coupled with guys saying, "oh I'm tall and really handsome, I guess that helped a bit." The more attractive guys I know have shit, or no game, and mediocre confidence and do fine. Basically, you have to be screwed up fairly badly if you're attracti…
/r/seduction30/12/13 07:36 AM
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Jenna honestly doesn't have a super attractive face as she even shows in her own no makeup vid. I'm not really a fan of hers, but I'd have to give her credit on having an interesting personality, which is largely what makes her attractive. I've noticed a lot of guys are very bad at understanding why a girl is attractive and think it's only because they think the girl is pretty. We're just not as in tune with our emotions as girl, so the fact is we are like girls in that we are attracted to a lot…
/r/seduction24/12/13 04:30 AM
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Interesting, thank you for the detailed response. After your years, I take it you determined you were not an inevitable beta? If one is a beta, the way you have described things, it sounds like struggling to reach higher is not worth it. And you speak of a latent alpha. What traits, or how can one tell if they might have this potential? Sometimes I wonder my nature.
/r/seduction22/12/13 10:28 AM
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Define "ultimately fails". Fails to do what?
/r/seduction22/12/13 07:11 AM
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Honestly, I much prefer directly talking with a girl on the phone, but that's the trick. Many of the girls I know (college age) simply do not use the phone part of their "phone". My ex drove me crazy because her and her friends would take an hour setting up plans by back-and-forth texting on FB when I could do it in a 5 minute call. I think the younger they are, the worse it is. They live in a texting, FB messenger, Line, etc etc universe. I've tried the "getting them on the phone" thing, and th…
/r/seduction20/12/13 09:13 AM
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I'm curious how you can screw up if girls already want you. In what way would you describe they show that they "want you"? Are they constantly messaging you or trying to hang out with you? If they really want you, you should just be able to be proactive towards them with a lot of margin for error so that you won't have to worry that much about making mistakes. Enough pushing and you'll get them.
/r/seduction20/12/13 08:57 AM
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Build a strong social circle and make lots of friends. Facebook makes this so easy. The more events and parties you are going to, the more your opportunities will expand. Be genuinely friendly with lots of people as opposed to just tunneling after pretty girls. Guys who do that have better success in the short term, but can easily become outcast and poison the well for themselves in certain groups. It's better to come off as the king of social gatherings rather than a hunter. Once you have statu…
/r/seduction15/12/13 03:24 AM
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Oh yeah, there are no cool/interesting/awesome men of value who date down 10 years in age. Wait...
/r/seduction13/12/13 11:59 PM
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I'm not sure I agree. Natural Alphas tend to have a DGAF attitude to how they act and what they say, which actually is exposing them and making them vulnerable. And subconsciously they aren't afraid to do this because of their position of power. It's a subtle kind of "come at me bro" that they know won't be answered. One thing I've noticed about my own behavior and others who aren't quite alpha is hesitation and restraint in expression precisely because we're concerned with presenting the exact …
/r/seduction07/12/13 10:27 AM
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How does all of this advice change if the girl is a virgin and/or incredibly inexperienced in general?
/r/seduction06/12/13 11:50 PM
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I understand that following around is creepy. You say to have a purpose, well, I'm in the gym to work out. Do you mean that my routine should just happen to intersect yours and that if I have a purpose to be using a specific machine near the one you are using, then this is okay this is how it should be? Or without following you around, can I just notice you moving from one machine to another and just go directly up to you and say hey. The part that still isn't really clear is: is directly approa…
/r/seduction06/12/13 04:14 AM
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Thanks. I like the infield videos and how you put the captions that point to specific things that you are doing. It would also be nice to see some videos where you get rejected upon approach or things in the conversation fizzle out and you comment on what might have gone wrong (even if out of your control).
/r/seduction06/12/13 01:55 AM
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I used to call because it was "unique and bold" or whatever. Honestly it just seems too intrusive, demanding, and out of place in this modern day. When most young girls only ever text or message people with some app, it's kind of odd when they have to answer a call from someone they don't know that well. It's like you are forcing her to do an action more consuming and intimate than she does with even her close friends. I once read somewhere, "girls these days text, the only guys who usually call…
/r/seduction06/12/13 01:17 AM
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Isn't it kind of hard to start or finish your workout at the same time unless you are like, really closely watching them or their schedule? It basically seems like you need to follow/intercept them. Or do you just wait until the day where you happen to end up in the same space?
/r/seduction06/12/13 12:35 AM
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If you're next to me while i'm stretching, ... avoid following her around or doing something just to be next to her So basically, just happen to "be" next to you. But don't actually move to be next to you? Say for example you're on some big mat area where people go to stretch and you are doing that there. It either has to start with you sitting down somewhere near a guy or the guy intentionally doing the same, intentionally sitting down near you (let's be honest, the odds of this if you are attr…
/r/seduction06/12/13 12:33 AM
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I'm no genius, but for a time now I've been thinking that things would be easier with women if I were less intelligent but with more empathy. I can't help but notice that a lot of the guys I've seen in real life social circles and on facebook, who are clearly admired by many girls, seem to have average to above average intelligence at best. They seem to have a very similar thing going on with the guy in the story that is the "stern/cool look and a big dumb smile with a strong heart".
/r/seduction27/11/13 02:52 AM
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I agree with this and want to echo it. A girl doesn't hang around a guy by mistake. Honestly, it's worst as a fact that "nobody likes him" while your gf sees something in him. It sounds familiar to cases where a girl is actually dating a "douche" that nobody likes or can understand why, but she feels it and that's what matters.
/r/TheRedPill23/11/13 08:28 AM
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Yeah, if anything I'm more guilty of this. A girl who is passably cute, but is pretty smart, super sweet and seemingly not a basket-case. Guess you just have to realize there are more out there.
/r/seduction23/11/13 02:18 AM
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I don't know. I'm 24+, and I do know what the OP is saying. I mean, I've read it before in one form or another. I pretty much know it in my heart. But, it's still interesting to read someone put it in their own way, or hell, even just be forced to read it again, which causes a stream of memories and experiences of how I have changed, improved and act differently towards myself and others. Reflecting again, even on something I've seen before, allows me to view and think from another angle. The pa…
/r/seduction12/10/13 08:57 AM
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Yes, his house.
/r/seduction10/10/13 09:32 PM
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I pretty much just ramp straight to the top with alcohol. 2-3 (tipsy): Can start talking to most people 4-7(level drunk): Can flirt decently, escalate and generally be smooth 8+ (very drunk): Magically find people who are attractive and fun, then hook up. The only thing is that I almost never get very drunk. I almost always just control my drinking so that I stay at the "plateau" of feeling good. Sometimes I've asked myself why I just haven't gotten really drunk more, because it tends to work ou…
/r/seduction22/09/13 10:37 PM
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And multiply any of this by the contrast principle that was in effect thanks to your buddy, JBB.
/r/seduction09/09/13 03:25 AM
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I also think it's important to recognize the difference between this sort of thing in a club versus in the office or on the street, when people aren't usually aren't in the same elevation of mood that you described.
/r/seduction25/06/13 01:48 PM
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Honestly, I think the loophole to this problem is to generally be walking around "smiling with your eyes" like something great just happened to you or you are having one of your usual amazing days. When they see you, your positive and confident state will already be conveyed, and you can add in a slight smile to show it's just for them.
/r/seduction25/06/13 01:42 PM
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Don't immediately just say you're kidding. Be confident amd stick with it. Tofutofu is a hb9, you need to make him wonder for a moment.
/r/seduction16/06/13 01:50 AM
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I'm skeptical about the confidence in the way he presents himself with the large sunglasses and hat covering the important half of his face. He also tends to shift around a lot. Other than that though he generally seems good.
/r/seduction08/05/13 10:52 PM
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They're not canned lines when they are your natural response. I mean, a lot of guys might have arrived at similar statements, but I know I have off the cuff said some similar playful things.
/r/seduction18/02/13 06:41 AM
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Here is an extreme example to illustrate: The world is ruled by one King, and only he is allowed to have sex with women. He does this with different women almost every day for decades. This results in tens of thousands of women having had sex, while only one man has done the same. Say there are 100,000 men and 100,000 women in this world, and 99,999 women have had sex with the king. 99.999% of women have had more sex than 99.999% of men. The mistake you are making is looking at is as some statis…
/r/seduction01/01/13 09:34 PM
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Yes, not declining people is very important. There have been times that I have declined people a couple times in a row because I was super tired or busy, and while I tried to tell them I was genuinely interested and wanted to go/do whatever next time, people basically lose the motivation courage to ask you again. I think a lot of people just assume (especially girls) just assume you are being polite and they end up being feeling rejected. I'll never forget the time when I was a first-quarter fre…
/r/seduction27/10/12 07:58 PM
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Interesting watch. Some of his techniques make me wonder. Why does he always ask if a girl is seeing someone? It's like he's just giving them a chance to give an excuse before they've even warmed up. These girls are used to naturally saying yes to having a boyfriend, and now he's forced them to them to do so and be consistent with it. In addition, he's just building their status/value in relation to his. With one particular girl he asked if he could be her 4th boyfriend or something similar. Per…
/r/seduction03/09/12 05:34 AM
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The barrier is because you aren't "in state". When I get going at a party or some other event where I'm talking to people and having fun it's completely different then when I'm trying to get things done, like getting groceries. I think most of us are like this. Unless you want to working on having your social and charm persona on everywhere you go, you're going to be caught off guard when something slightly out of the ordinary happens. When we buy food, we are in a routine to locate it, find the…
/r/seduction03/09/12 02:53 AM
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Even so, every budding PUA should be spending time at the gym. Not only will it make you more attractive physically, but it boosts your confidence, which is just as attractive. The way I see it, every trip I make to the gym, every set and rep I do, increases the quality and quantity of women that are available to me. This needs to be repeated a lot more around here. For a long time I always took "looks don't matter that much" as a pass to be lazy and too skinny. I've begun to feel it's an essent…
/r/seduction02/09/12 11:46 PM
1

I'm not an expert at all, but since I started getting numbers years ago at the beginning of college before even finding out about any of the community, I don't think I've ever had one girl say no. I got so many numbers, 99% real, but I never did anything about 90% of them, because despite being completely comfortable in person, I hated talking on the phone. Getting numbers is a good and usually necessary step, but it's just that. If any plank on your bridge is unstable, you're not going to make …
/r/seduction02/09/12 11:36 PM
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You basically want to match her frequency of replying, but you also want to vary it a bit, make it a bit random and unpredictable. However your average response time should be roughly her average response time. Seduction is all about calibration, and so it doesn't really matter how women behave in general, what matters is how she behaves and how you react or calibrate to her behaviour. This right here is on point. Some women are shy, some are aggressive, some play hard to get, etc. Experience wi…
/r/seduction01/09/12 08:55 PM
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This needs to be higher. As long as you can approach people and come off okay, getting a phone number is easy but can easily be meaningless. I used to think you could wait around a bit, but now I agree you need to strike while the iron is hot. If you don't leave the venue together, a text the same night while you're still in the same mood is a good idea to establish a bond through texting.
/r/seduction01/09/12 08:53 PM
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That's a good quality to have. It would probably be better if more people were able to self-analyze/reflect. I probably made it seem like I think all girls have a disconnect from their minds and feelings, but I don't think that. It's just easier to not specify that I'm not talking in absolutes every time I say something, but people (not necessarily you) love to read things that way.
/r/seduction20/08/12 04:14 AM
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And if you don't believe this, wait until you find a girl who likes and you've been together for a while, and if you're feeling brave ask her what sparked the attraction. You may be surprised at the difficulty she has thinking about the answer to that.
/r/seduction18/08/12 08:24 AM
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I'd recommend a wizard of burdening over one of lightening.
/r/seduction06/08/12 04:22 AM
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According to my Japanese girlfriend who went to bars and clubs in Nagoya and Tokyo, it's exactly the same here (medium-large US city). She said her first impression of bars and clubs here was that they feel exactly the same: guys hit on her and she doesn't have to pay for drinks in either place. She said it is completely normal to socialize with strangers.
/r/seduction27/07/12 12:23 AM
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Yeah, when I saw your post at first it was at 3 downvotes and no upvotes. I couldn't believe you were getting downvotes for simply being honest and, dare I say, doing the right thing. I thought maybe by mocking the mentally that was downvoting you, others would 'righteously' downvote me and upvote you.
/r/seduction24/07/12 11:05 AM
11

Woah, you legally bought something you could have digitally obtained for free? Downvote.
/r/seduction24/07/12 04:20 AM
4

Four tomorrow, eight the day after. This guy is too hardcore for linear progress.
/r/seduction14/06/12 10:50 PM
2

Seriously. A nice spring day on campus and I see dozens of girls I find more attractive. It's not just an age thing either; I don't really find this lady's face especially appealing.
/r/seduction24/05/12 09:46 PM
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The article has a point though, in that a 10-point scale is too wide and very, very subjective. I almost always ignore HB ratings in writeups because they easily have a personal +/- 2 point tolerance. I suppose within one's own mind the scale will be consistent, but I've never seen the use or need to rate girls in an absolute numerical form. What is the main benefit from doing so? Such discretization makes it just as easy to poison inner game as thinking of a girl as 'hot', as you've said, becau…
/r/seduction17/04/12 01:53 AM
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This is so true about Dale Carnegie's book. It's funny you should mention this, as I am partway through listening to it on audiobook and realized this truth just a couple days ago. I got to the lesson about the value of having people respond only in the affirmative from the outset and building momentum like this to set their state, or attitude, in agreement with how you would like it. I thought, hmm, where have I heard this before?
/r/seduction21/03/12 03:01 AM
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Dude, we all have shortcomings we could talk about when we first meet/date someone, but where is the benefit in that? Be your best self, forget that other stuff, and try to have a good time. If you are having fun, you'll do fine.
/r/seduction18/03/12 07:30 AM
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Um, this is High School he's talking about isn't it? This is more of a social circle thing. A bad blow out in a HS can mean a blow out with half the school. Definitely do not stand in wait for her somewhere. Try to naturally walk out of the room with her at the same time.
/r/seduction06/03/12 09:44 AM
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Yeah, I think this idea could be achieved while keeping it here. Perhaps custom icons or tags can be used to identify members of certain levels, and instead of creating a new forum, just have some specific weekly threads. These threads can target these newer 'pledge' users.
/r/seduction03/03/12 07:32 PM
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Help you get rejected? No.
/r/seduction03/03/12 08:44 AM
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Agree completely. A simple, "I know." or "oh yeah?"(indifferently said) would have been fine. "Dear, I chose to let you be with me tonight" is way too overt of conveying higher status and as such comes off as forced. Not to mention it sounds a bit arrogant when the girl may have just been speaking genuinely.
/r/seduction03/03/12 03:53 AM
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Hey, at least you can have sex when drunk! Whiskey dick has robbed me on far too many occasions.
/r/seduction02/03/12 10:22 PM
1

High Five!
/r/seduction01/03/12 10:23 PM
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I agree that 'why' sounds more like a barking demand to get information and that "what made" sounds like curiosity. I'm trying to think how to say "why is your night good?" without using 'why'. Hmmm... "what makes this a good night for you?" or "what about your day made it a good one?"
/r/seduction23/02/12 01:56 PM
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Exactly. It's like nobody here read the post.
/r/seduction17/02/12 03:43 AM
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Huh? These aren't 'openers'. They're things that people actually said that started relationships. The point being that the very first step in a relationship is saying something, anything. The list isn't meant as something that you should repeat. It's meant to show you the dumb things people have said that have led them to relationships anyway.
/r/seduction17/02/12 12:59 AM
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Here's my detailed 3-Step Plan for the next time this happens to you: Seconds 1-3: Grab the girl by waist and pull her into you. Seconds 4-10: Grind on her while holding her against you Seconds 11+: Spin her around to face you, suck each others faces while groping other parts of the body. BONUS STEP: Bang on the spot.
/r/seduction12/02/12 07:44 AM
1

I just see a guy who is honest and comfortable with himself.
/r/seduction09/02/12 11:08 AM
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I think this has less to do with her being a woman and more to do with her being a person who is very inexperience at age 23. Maybe 'ruin' was a bit dramatic, but I think even as a guy, this experience could cause someone a lot of hurt.
/r/seduction07/02/12 04:53 AM
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Next time, at the end of the date you kiss her. If at this point she says she has a boyfriend, you say, "woah, slow down there, we just met!" Likely she wouldn't, and only said it later because it was an excuse for not feeling attraction.
/r/seduction07/02/12 04:49 AM
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Agree. If a girl really wants you, she could have a boyfriend or other current interests and you'd never hear a word about him or them. The only exception is if they are making fun of or putting down these other guys. Of course, it's still possible for a girl to have some interest in you. She could just be a blabbermouth who has nothing better to talk about than her past woes (some girls are just dramatic), and is waiting for you to sweep her off her feet so she can forget them. Sometimes it's r…
/r/seduction07/02/12 04:45 AM
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So we should execute people we don't like? Take a good look in the mirror buddy.
/r/seduction22/01/12 12:04 AM
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When he came to my university to talk, a few dozen feminists (both male and female) were hiding in wait in the crowd planning to be annoying. Every 5-10 minutes, a few would jump up and completely interrupt him and be obnoxious by using airhorns, getting in his face, insulting him, etc. They would pretty quickly get booed by 99% of the audience and escorted out of the room by security. I should mention that half of the audience was female, and after something like that would happen, as if to cou…
/r/seduction22/01/12 12:04 AM
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If a girl wants a drink I tell her the only girls I buy drinks for are family or girls I've slept with, and she aint pretty enough to be related to me. Let's hope this is an exclusive or.
/r/seduction08/11/11 07:40 PM
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