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PPD is turning me into a misandrist. I've never met a group of men that inspired such instinctive revulsion in me. It's corroding my respect for men generally. Presumably this forum is a reflection of what all men are like, to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:00 AM
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Me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 01:41 AM
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I don't really understand what you mean by a "feed", to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 12:41 AM
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c: <3
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 11:42 AM
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Aww, aleks. Are you saying I'm one in a billion? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 11:36 AM
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Sounds like you have just described FDS. How do you feel about FDS. You like it, right? It's about female empowerment and women telling each other the truth. Not all RP men sit around saying women are liars and generally shitty Not all FDS women sit around men are liars and generally shitty. Some of them use FDS for self-improvement. FDS is about getting women to work on themselves and set boundaries for themselves so they don't fall for the men who try and manipulate us. Just because you see wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 11:35 AM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 11:31 AM
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STATISTICALLY SIRRELEVANT?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 11:27 AM
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some women actually desire their partner and dont have sub negative libido. This was my point. You seemed not to understand that this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 11:17 AM
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Let me ask you something. Imagine you looked at my posting history, and saw I was posting in a community called The Pink Pill. TPP is a wonderful community. It exists to educate and empower women. Women gather there and discuss men - what they're like, how to interact with them, how to get things from them. Men are graded on a series of criteria - their looks, their finances, their dick size. Perfect 10 men, handsome, rich and endowed, are highly sought after. Women share strategies for isolatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 11:14 AM
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Thats assuming the information given is a lie and well it isn't the basic info on how women act is accurate. It is a lie. Dishonesty isn't a female trait. It provably isn't. Framing it as one is a LIE. How many more times do you need it explaining it doesn't mean that, it is not an absolute. Doesn't mean that TO YOU. I have met many, MANY red pillers who disagreed with you. There are redpillers IN THIS SUB who think that ALL WOMEN ARE LITERALLY LIKE THAT. It doesn't frame negative behaviour as f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:59 AM
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No worries.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:44 AM
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You're being weirdly hostile. I'm not telling you to get married. I actually don't think you should. I just like science.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:35 AM
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because a lot of men are in the "women are wonderful" effect they don't realise that women lie just as much as men do, this is what TRP does it shows these men that hey women can be just as shitty as anyone else so watch your step. That's manipulation. Framing information dishonestly to make a point. That's what manipulation is. You're being manipulated. No it isn't, you have been shown the original from an actual RP source the idea that AWALT is an absolute is the modern version. AWALT means "A…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:34 AM
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Marriage for me is the brief bliss before it all comes crashing down on a divorce where she takes everything Okay? I don't give a shit if you get married or not, dude. I'm just pointing out the science.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:31 AM
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Happier than woman? Happier than unmarried men... It also proves that marriage after 7+ years is worse than not being married. I'm not sure where you got that from. The study actually says: "Figures 1 and 2 show the positive effects of the marriage relationship, with the comparison group including respondents who remain unmarried and those who become married more than 2 years later. The whisker lines showing the 95% confidence intervals of the estimates reveal highly significant life satisfactio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:20 AM
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Do I need to link the posts of you calling men shitty names( like the weak comment just up there)? Yes, the men are weak. They have to be, in order to be vulnerable to TRP's manipulations. Sorry, but it's true. The philosophy is based on identifying and understanding womens nature and what men can do to better their chances that is not inherently misogynistic. No. It isn't. Lying is not "women's nature". It simply isn't. We've done studies on this. Women are about as dishonest as men are. Framin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:17 AM
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Married men are happier though... https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10902-017-9941-3
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:07 AM
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Because you are taking your experience of the shitty men who happen to be RP (and they would still be shitty men even if TRP didn't exist) and labeling all men who follow TRP as shitty. I'm not labeling the men. I'm labeling the philosophy. The philosophy is inherently misogynistic. Other have explained what AWALT is, it was laid down very early in TRP timeline Some redpillers define AWALT as you do. Others define it more literally. That's the beauty of AWALT. Two men with very different attitud…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:54 AM
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They also say that all of these are a product of good marriages. Good marriages only come about very very rarely. There are way more bad marriages than good marriages in the world But the average married man still lives longer, so you must be wrong about something there...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:52 AM
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He thinks news articles from respected sources can't be anecdotes... such ignorance... yet he's male? Perhaps he's actually female. Yes. Yes, that must be it...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:50 AM
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He doesn't seem to understand the difference between "anecdotes", "facts", and "reality"...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:45 AM
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https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/marriage-and-mens-health
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:42 AM
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What you are doing here is the same as those RP men who have unk to low and labeling all of a group as bad, plenty of RP men (and I suppose I fall into this) are not like those men who hate on women but we recognise that women are not wonderful (like a BP) and they can be just as toxic and shitty as any man. I'm not saying the men are bad. I'm saying the men are weak. The philosophy is bad. I don't think all women are liers I think all people can be liers so you are better watching what they do …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:31 AM
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The first ones i posted are not my anecdotes, they’re facts. He thinks anecdotes can't be facts... this is so strange. He doesn't seem to understand basic science terminology...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:26 AM
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He doesn't seem to understand what anecdotal evidence is. Such ignorance, coming from a man. So weird, I must be misunderstanding...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:19 AM
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More anecdotal evidence... But, you're a man? You're supposed to be inherently rational. I think I need to lie down...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:07 AM
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There is a lot of common sense that people should have but don't, thats why we have the darwin awards. Yes, that's the danger of the red pill. It's one part useful advice, one part toxic garbage. And the people who are susceptible to it aren't sophisticated enough to distinguish one part from the other. They get a little bit of success, and think it all must be true. So you equate criticising women as misogyny? Is all criticism of women misogyny? No. Is the red pill's criticism? Yes, extremely. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:06 AM
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You do realize that when you edit a commentary you get a little tick on it saying that you edited it right? You could’ve at least say that it was a typo, nothing wrong with that, instead you are lying. Lying about what? What are you talking about? Are you okay? You're not making sense. Then you have the 50 wealthiest men in the world. Out of 50: 4 are single by choice. 4 are widowed 2 are widowed and have REmarried 9 have divorced 11 have divorced and remarried 20 are married (out of these 20, 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:00 AM
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Yes it does. No, it doesn't. There is nothing new or unique in the red pill. It's common sense that everyone should have, with a sprinkling of positive psychology, and a huge boatload of misogyny. Nothing good that you're getting from the red pill is unique to the red pill. It's all other people's ideas, repackaged with woman-hating to appeal to insecure men. What parts do you find misogynistic? Literally all of it? Every single concept exists to demonize women. Hamstering. Hypergamy. AWALT. Shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:56 AM
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TRP doesn't tell you anything about female nature. It tells you a little bit of common sense, dressed up with a misogynistic flourish. The common sense part is good, and men who are attracted to TRP tend to lack common sense, so it feels revelatory to them. They apply the common sense parts to their lives, and it makes things better, so they assume the rest of it must be true. It's a scam. They suck in vulnerable, gullible young men like you and implant them with a mind virus. Slowly it poisons …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:47 AM
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Except non of them are going to tell you the truth about "female nature" Yeah dude, that's a good thing. TRP dresses up blindingly obvious insights with a side of misogyny and calls it self-improvement. It's one part common sense, one part misogynistic horseshit, which as it turns out is a lethally seductive ratio for gullible men. It's DANGEROUS.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:42 AM
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If only there were self-help resources out there that aren't misogynistic. Like, maybe even an entire field of psychology dedicated to the goal of personal development.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:37 AM
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You just said that what I said is objectively true. No I didn't. Are you okay? My question is: can you tell me how many times those billionaires you’re talking about have divorced and how much money have they lost in the process? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:34 AM
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The link you gave literally says “why working-class marriages are more fragile” in the title and yet you’re here championing that billionaires are married Read the link. You'll discover there's a a hierarchy of marriage. Poor people are the least likely to marry, middle class people are slightly more likely, and upper class people the likeliest of all. And why is exactly this relevant? Did you forget the conversation you were having? It's relevant because you said this: "Most of the most success…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:30 AM
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Divorce statistics are also inflated by serial divorcees.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:25 AM
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yeah :(
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:22 AM
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Hm. Strange. More anecdotal evidence. I don't understand why I'm seeing such irrational behavior from someone who claims to be male.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:17 AM
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It's so strange. You keep engaging with somebody who can't possibly have a productive conversation with. Like you're compelled to, by some kind of emotional drive. It just doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:12 AM
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you're being weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:10 AM
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Link whatever studies you want. I’ve seen it happen too many times already. Hm, curious. You're male, right? So you must be rational and scientifically literate. Yet you seem to be prioritizing anecdotal evidence over science and data. This doesn't compute. I must be misunderstanding something.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:10 AM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:02 AM
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What an odd question, women can't stop being emotional. I guess at least your irrational questions makes sense, now that I know you're not redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 08:00 AM
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I’m not redpill. Oh, thank God. I thought I'd encountered an irrational redpiller, and that simply cannot be. I'm so relieved.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:56 AM
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Phew! For a second there I thought I'd met a redpiller who wasn't utterly loathesome. The universe makes sense again! n_n
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:53 AM
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I don't get it it. You're a purely rational redpill male, yet you keep wasting your time trying to explain things outside my grasp to me. Me! An irrational bluepill female! It makes no sense. It's almost like your behavior is driven by something other than rational self-interest. Like you're motivated by some kind of... feeling??
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:51 AM
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Seems pretty pointless for you to sit here explaining this idea to me that I'll never understand. Almost like you're irrational, or something...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:46 AM
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Lol, that's what I thought ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:43 AM
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Why don't you explain the point you think I missed, since you're a big rational man and I'm a tiny emotional woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:40 AM
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No, I didn't. I don't think he's trolling, I think he's sincere. I actually proved that he's wrong about at least one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:37 AM
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You seem too nice and stable to be a filthy redpiller.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:36 AM
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But it IS "most" women. It's "most" to you, because you're slightly less gullible than the average redpiller. For your more gullible brethren, it's "all." The same term satisfies you both, because you can't see when you're being played. Our experiences tend to reflect that, especially if you end up spending any amount of time at the bottom of the barrel Yeah, this is exactly who TRP preys on. Men at the bottom of the barrel. Poor men. Ugly men. Autistic men. Men with poor social skills. They spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:35 AM
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I already said this earlier Paying attention is not your strong point, huh? I'm making a point about the deceitfulness and vacuousness of redpill philosophy, not about your personal reading of it. Yes, you have a more measured understanding of AWALT than some. Good for you. The point is that AWALT is specifically designed to appeal both to you and to the hyper-gullible. That's why it's AWALT. Because some people will believe literally anything about all women. Sure it is, because self-reporters …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:15 AM
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I think that's horseshit tbh. I've seen the way you guys argue. You're absolutely trying to convince the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:04 AM
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"All" won't be true, but "Most" can be Ahh, yes. The beautiful, necessary elasticity of AWALT. Is it "all"? Or is it "most"? It's both. It's whatever you need it to be. It's an extreme as it needs to be to satisfy your insecurities, and as extreme as your credulousness will allow it to be, but no more extreme than that. Studies are self-reported "Self-reported" is not the same as "anecdotal". Like most redpillers, you seem to be fairly scientifically illiterate, and you use that illiteracy to so…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 07:03 AM
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:(
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:54 AM
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So you're cynically distorting the truth to defend an ideology you don't even believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:53 AM
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He’s also on the spectrum, like his father. Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:49 AM
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Don't worry man, nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:47 AM
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Like what ? I've never heard of a single benefit. I mean unless the woman is richer of course. Married men live longer, are healthier, and report generally increased levels of life satisfaction. Marriage is generally thought to contribute more to male happiness than to female happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:46 AM
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I wonder if there are any groups that are like purple-pill healing. There's /r/exredpill. Lots of reformed redpillers in there, trying to heal. I think both Red Pill and Blue Pill, and any other extremist group does humanity a great disservice by preaching to people their own versions of false promises as fictional keys to happiness. You can't build a lasting future on lies and sand. It just blows away in the wind eventually. Haha, well I don't agree with you that TBP is extremist (and certainly…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:35 AM
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From a million other places. I'm serious. None of the wisdom in the red pill is unique to the red pill. I can give you a reading list of self-improvement resources that won't subject you to the drip-feed of misogyny, self-loathing and misanthropy you're getting from TRP. TRP is garbage. If you want self-improvement resources, look literally anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:30 AM
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What makes you king and what’s good/bad for men? Never said I was the King. I'm a person with an opinion, making a case. If you think my case is poor, attack it. It sounds like you can't, though. It sounds like you have a horrible feeling I might be right. Listen to that voice. That voice is your friend. Also no one said anything is law or an absolute. Yes actually, the red pill does. AWALT stands for "All women are like that." AWALT is an absolute. We can agree to disagree but if that’s how you…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:27 AM
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TRP is one part blindingly obvious common sense, one part virulent misogyny. That's it. That's all it consists of.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:19 AM
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Yes. TRP preys on men who don't know how to be men. We agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:18 AM
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You actually said "many women". Not "all women". But I know "all" and "many" are interchangeable terms for redpillers, so I'll forgive your sloppiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:17 AM
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No, I understand. It's like when Scientologists learn the awful truth about all those pesky thetans. You wish you could go back to not knowing, but you can't...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:15 AM
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Was there a point buried somewhere in this comment? Are you saying I'm being too mean? Poor baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:10 AM
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TRP preys on vulnerable men and then aggravates their despair. It's called a feedback loop.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:09 AM
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Oh, women lie sometimes? HOLY SHIT. YOU REDPILLERS JUST DON'T LET UP WITH THESE INSIGHTS ON THE HUMAN CONDITION.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:08 AM
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Yeah, redpillers live in a prison of their own construction. I'd feel bad for them if they weren't so universally unappealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:07 AM
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AWALT - All Women Are Like That. Here at TRP we use generalizations, because most of us recognize patterns that we have read about here and also observed in our lives regarding the behavior of women we've known. This is doublethink. Is AWALT a generalization? Is it an absolute law? It's both. That's the point. It's whatever you need it to be. That's why it's sticky. It's deliberately designed to be precisely as extreme as your insecurities demand and your credulousness will allow, and no more. D…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:02 AM
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AWALT just means all women are capable of behaving in such a manner but it doesn’t mean they will act on it 100% of the time. AWALT means whatever the redpiller needs it to mean in the moment. Does it mean all women? Does it mean some women? Does it mean women can be reformed? Does it mean they're beyond help? It depends on the needs of the moment. RP is doublethink. All women lie. All men lie. It’s easy to point fingers. And this is why redpill rhetoric is so seductive. Whatever vicious narrati…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 05:21 AM
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TBH I think most redpillers are men who've been traumatized by borderline women. What TRP calls "female nature" reads like a laundry list of borderline tendencies. I do feel that she wouldn’t cheat on me for some reason although I guess I can never be too sure. Yeah. You can't know. It's hard enough when you're dating a normal person, and significantly harder when you're dating someone with mental illness. My advice would be to focus on yourself. Get help for whatever borderline tendencies you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 05:16 AM
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Again, at minimum top 20% of dicks, bigger is better is what they clearly think. Like I said, I don't believe it. They're overestimating. I remember a post here from not too long ago about a study to see how often people lie on such studies, and it effectively told everyone what we all though of as common sense. Many women do in fact lie to make themselves seem more modest/pure. You can use this kind of logic to demonize any population. Many men lie about their sexual conquests to seem more acco…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 05:10 AM
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Tbh you sound generally way too sensible and well-adjusted for TRP (or, indeed MGTOW). I'd advise you not to steep yourself too heavily in those communities, because I really don't think it would be good for you. TRP and MGTOW are both very toxic in a way that's hard for men to see. There are broadly sensible ideas contained within them both of course, like self-improvement and independence. But I don't think you need /r/TRP or /r/MGTOW to help you develop those qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 05:01 AM
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Just because the posers say it means one thing doesn’t mean it actually means that. Look. Anything you take from any philosophy can mean anything you want it to mean. Christianity can just mean being nice to people. Scientology can just mean talking about your issues. Flat earth can just mean doubting what the authorities tell you. Death of the author. It's up to you. But any honest reading of redpill philosophy is going to very quickly run up against the reality that redpill thinking is by natu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:49 AM
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Okay, I'm just operating on a hunch here, but does any of this sound familiar to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:41 AM
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Ahhh. Yeah, that does sound a little worrying. Not like, super concerning, but there are a couple red flags. The question really is, what are you going to do about it? What is the red pill strategy that you think might save the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:34 AM
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Oh jeeze, I don't know. There are multiple denominations near the top and the bottom of that chart. I assume that tallied together they make up a sizeable percentage of the US population.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:32 AM
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And you're monogamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:30 AM
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Yeah, I can see why you feel anxious. Are you both quite young?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:28 AM
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But in this case, I wouldn’t even validate those people with the privilege of piggy-backing on a Matrix phrase to push a biased agenda with disregard for the philosophy behind the phrase. The philosophy behind the phrase is universalist. It doesn't make room for exceptions. You're thinking in shades of grey; true red pillers think in black and white. You're red pill lite, they're the true believers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:27 AM
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So your fear is that she's pining for an ex? Or that she's trying to seduce your friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:18 AM
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Just because someone says they’re something doesn’t mean they actually are that thing. This is very No True Scotsman. AWALT is redpill dogma. AWALT is universalist. It allows for no exception. People who believe AWALT are redpillers. You might not believe AWALT. You are, at most, redpill lite. True redpillers don't understand or desire nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:18 AM
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You don't need to read the whole graph. Just read the topmost and bottom-most few values. Anglican fourth from the top, Church of God at the very bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:15 AM
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Then I argue those people aren’t red pill. People who believe redpill dogma wholeheartedly aren't redpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:10 AM
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And honestly, I think it ignores a mind-blowing piece of evidence. If an individual can learn the truth and see beyond — then any other individual has that potential. I agree, but this observation is inconsistent with redpill dogma. AWALT. No woman can ever be rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:07 AM
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This source claims otherwise, it states that college students can be divided into 3 nearly equal groups, 32% are true believers, 32% are spiritual but not religious, and 28% consider themselves secular. The data is being thrown off by polarization. Christians are both the most and least educated Americans. This supports my theory of the competing pools of protestants.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:05 AM
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What are the red flags?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:00 AM
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Okay so then they can notice a bigger dick much more and be stimulated much more? This just isn't how it works for most women. Bigger simply isn't better. It just isn't. I don't know what you want me to say. Getting your research into the big leads is a no no if it doesn't work out, I remember the people that did the whole alpha and beta thing with the wolves fought tooth and nail to get their names removed from it so they wouldn't be associated with it. The alpha/beta thing was bad science. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:59 AM
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:D
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:52 AM
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Bitch I will FIGHT YOU
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:47 AM
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Yeah cos I definately used AWALT xddd. You talked about my "female nature'. That is AWALT, whether you're too chickenshit to use the term or not. Yet red pill is garbage? So far seems like its proving against you from what you are typing out lately more and more. Yeah, TRP sure is useful for soothing your ego after mean women calls you a dumbass. Don't feel bad dude, she's just a woman. AWALT. Hypergamy. Female nature. It'll be alright. Shhhh.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:47 AM
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Interesting thing is that atheists seem to have some of the lowest divorce rates, also Protestants have some of the highest. There are confounding variables here. Atheists are more likely to be college educated and middle class, protestants are more likely to be uneducated and working class. Basically, there exist competing pools within the protestant cohort, that are throwing off results. One pool is hyper prone to divorce, the other pool gets married as virgins and doesn't divorce at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:44 AM
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Gay men are part of the average. Excluding them distorts the average. No they're not, here's a source The average is the sum of all values, divided by the number of all values. Gay men are a part of the whole, so yes, they are a part of the average. Any average that excludes them is inaccurate. Yeah that's fine, as I said in that paragraph, though you cut out that part in your quote, that the vast majority wouldn't do it. I'm still acknowledging that some of them would (or at least claim they wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:39 AM
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Well, tell me a little more. Who, specifically, is disappointing you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:27 AM
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You’ve failed to point out what exactly does your positive psychology say that is better or more useful than what RP says. It's better because it's all of the good things of TRP, minus all of the bad thing. You think TRP is the only philosophy that tells men to lift or get out of their comfort zone? Jesus Christ man. Get out of your bubble for a second. Stupid? Sometimes, irrational ? Yes women tend to prioritize how it makes them feel over rational. Selfish? Yes woman are naturally selfish. Lol…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:26 AM
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Absolutely not.. I'm saying you should expect better and be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:22 AM
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Is TRP philosophy any more empathetic? It coddles you, but it isn't empathetic. It's cold and toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:18 AM
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Oh, I'm clearly wrong? Wow, LOGIC'd. You're so fucking rational it's blowing my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:15 AM
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Unfortunately, mods are gay and women keep coming. What are you gonna do? The rational thing to do would be to stop debating them. Funny how none of you do that...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:14 AM
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So be less guilty. Man up. Improve yourself. Stop blaming other people for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:14 AM
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So in the case of Evangelical Protestants, they make up 28% of all divorced or separated adults. Right. Because Protestants are the largest group of Americans. Not because Protestants are more prone to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:12 AM
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"They hated her because she told the truth."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:09 AM
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What does he say? Lift? Dress better? Groom better? Get out your comfort zone? The same shit TRP says .. what exactly does he say that Trp doesn’t ? You're making my point for me. TRP is self-improvement philosophy, with a side of woman-hating. Everything that's good in the red pill exists somewhere else, but better, healthier, and without all the baggage. And I’m sorry.. pointing out the realities of female sexuality isn’t demonizing women. redpillers in this sub routinely call women in general…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:07 AM
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Are you really accusing a blue piller of black and white thinking? As a red piller? Wow. You've got some double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:04 AM
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Guess you just proved my point about AWALT and how you dont fully read, I already explained most rational RP users don't believe in that from the get go. This is No True Scotsman. Red pillers as a rule are not rational. Majority don't because its stupid and not real to say say 100% of women/men do this/that. Yes, it is stupid. You're rejecting it because you're less gullible than the average redpiller, but you're not insightful enough to see that the philosophy is built to rope in the gullible. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:02 AM
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He's not a troll. He's very earnest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:54 AM
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You stating that this is “useless” is simply reaffirming my beliefs that you’re not understand why it is being mentioned here. To me it’s a reflection of their selfishness. Yes, this is the true use of the red pill. It doesn't exist for the reason that real theories exist, to make useful predictions about the future and thus increase utility. It exists to soothe the egos of men who have been rejected by the opposite sex. It's not a means of improving the world. It's a way of reassuring yourself …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:54 AM
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I guess you've never met Aldabruzzo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:43 AM
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Good bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:42 AM
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Riiiiight. I'm sure it's really all about the intellectual challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:41 AM
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"Redpillers like being angry". From the same research group that brought you "water is wet."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:39 AM
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Realise how you purposely dodged my offer in posting examples of what exactly is BS in RP,? Because you know you want to defend your ego. You CANT make up a claim and not back it up, then spout bs how it won't matter because of such and such... then what's the point in this post if you refuse to open up and debate correctly, stupid. lol, nice ninja edit. Shall we break out the scientific studies? We can do that if you like :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:36 AM
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Lmao at the flat earth, engineers that belive in that are not real engineers, they failed with their knowledge somewhere down the line... Lmao at redpill women, women that believe in the red pill are not real women, they failed their knowledge somewhere down the line... Politicians, can you name more then one apart from the sole one that made a fool of himself? I don't know who you're talking about, but I assume most flat earth politicians have made a fool of themselves at some point. I'm sorry …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:33 AM
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He is saying that women take any opinion that doesn’t cater to them as a troll Well that's just more redpill confirmation bias, isn't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:28 AM
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Lol, my "so called" positive psychology? Do you think positive psychology is some kind of optical illusion? Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi. There's a name for you. Does great work teaching people how to improve their lives, doesn't demonize women. Turns out you can have one without the other. Isn't positive psychology magic? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:27 AM
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You're not wrong LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:18 AM
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I did research and found a great source that effectively proves religiosity doesn't really prevent divorce all that much. I don't understand what I'm looking at. Is this all divorces as a percentage of various religions? Great site, they have a lot of interesting stuff there lol yeah, the Pew Research Center is aight.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:18 AM
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His point is demonstrably incorrect. He does debate women. He can pretend it's trolling all he likes, he's not fooling anyone with eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:15 AM
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I guess you're right. There is no value in debating women. What is the outcome? They will never admit or own up to the chaos they cause in the SMP. Then you shouldn't do it. You're being irrational just by posting in this thread. Be more rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:15 AM
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No, like actual positive psychology. With science behind it. Sorry you're mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:14 AM
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I'm glad you're who you are :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:13 AM
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Nope. Feminism and the civil rights movement have created measurable social improvement. The manosphere has created measurable anguish. They're not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:13 AM
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The objective is to get an average Gay men are part of the average. Excluding them distorts the average. For example, lets say you wanted to find out the average wealth of average American citizens, does it make sense to throw in Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates and all the other billionaires whose combined wealth surpasses that of the bottom 50% of American society? Yes, ideally you would survey Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, and every other citizen. That's the only way you could find the real average. Excludin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:11 AM
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That's not watering down. The link I had sent says basically the same thing and it's 6 years old. Yes, because theredpill is amorphous and it always has been. It means whatever the redpiller needs it to mean in the moment. Does AWALT mean ALL women or does it mean MOST meaning? The answer is whatever it needs to be in the moment. It's slippery and vacuous. People with a natural brain for science and logic can see through it immediately. Every woman is going to tend to replace her partner if a be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:07 AM
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You seem like a nice person :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:02 AM
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In direct opposition with their own fundamental beliefs. That's irrationality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:02 AM
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So the redpill stating that most women like tall guys which are backed with decades of surveys/research/stats/interviews etc. Is distorted in reality? Yes. Because the red pill line isn't that MOST women like tall guys. The red pill doesn't speak in generalities. It speaks in absolutes. Because it's vacuous. Oh dear god, you are one of them, rer-ead my post and see what you missed. I'm not reading your comment, dude. It's too long-winded. Be more concise. How can you claim none of it is simply t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:01 AM
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I tried to read this comment and I literally couldn't. It was just too boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 01:54 AM
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Fundamentalist Christians are the largest single religious group in America, and they heavily proscribe both premarital sex and divorce. It's weird to me that you aren't aware of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 01:49 AM
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What I mean is that as a part of the overall male population, gay men and bisexuals are too small of a minority to hold any significant sway and can simply be ignored Yeah, all minorities can be safely ignored if you want to have a less accurate picture of reality. My thoughts as to why the male porn stars have big dicks is likely as a method of pushing the whole "she is enjoying it" thought into men. I'm no expert so take it with a grain of salt. Yes, exactly. Men associate larger penises with …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 01:45 AM
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AWALT is delusional thinking from the get go it makes no sense as if to categorise everyone 100%. Everything in the red pill is delusional. It all has to be distorted to make it resemble reality. None of it is simply true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 01:38 AM
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So the binary part. Every woman is going to tend to replace her partner if a better partner comes along. However then there are layers upon layers which make us individuals which make it more or less likely to happen creating a spectrum. Those layers include everything, genetics, upbringing, history and commitment of the couple. Yeah, what you're doing right now? Watering down the red pill to make it true? That's what you have to do with EVERYTHING in the red pill. NONE of it is simply true. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 01:36 AM
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AWALT means "All women are like that". All of them. It's a foundational text of theredpill, and it's an absolutism. You're saying redpill philosophy isn't absolutist, and you're simply wrong about that. Is IS absolutist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 01:28 AM
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I just believe the resentment and anguish holds the manosphere back. Resentment and anguish is what the manosphere is based on. Without those things, there'd be no manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 01:23 AM
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Are you unfamiliar with the term AWALT? You must be. You seem very new.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 01:21 AM
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Sort of, the most common preference among women still knocks out +80% of men. Yes, but scientifically speaking, it's a different 20% for every woman. My argument about this is that you're talking on behalf of too many people. I'm talking on behalf of most women. As we've established pretty rigorously, most women either don't care about penis size, or prefer average sized men. Your assumption that most of us want big dicks is incorrect, according to the evidence you yourself provided.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 01:20 AM
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Divorce is heavily destigmatized among even the religious. There are plenty of religious communities that don't allow divorce. Easily enough to throw off the general numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 01:19 AM
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I'm not someone who believes AWALT unconditionally You can't believe ANYTHING in theredpill unconditionally. It ALL has to be distorted in order to resemble the truth. Theredpill is doublethink. That's what it runs on. Those studies rely on personal anecdote so ¯|(ツ)/¯ You don't seem to understand the difference between "science" and "anecdotes". I guess it shouldn't surprise me that a redpiller would be scientifically illiterate. Generational thing. Young women are all over social media, showin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 01:18 AM
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So, there's a minority of women who initiate every day. So, it's not something that happens every 15 years, is it? It's something that happens every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 01:12 AM
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I just read your link now. It's redpill doublethink. So you had simply decided on your own what AWALT is and you will simply stand your ground. OK have a nice day. AWALT means "All women are like that". That's what it means. Saying it only means "some women" is doublethink, which is what the red pill runs on. You are engaging in doublethink right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 01:11 AM
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It doesn't hold people accountable. Saying "all women are liars by nature" is the opposite of holding people accountable. If all women are liars, then you can't blame a woman for lying. There's no accountability here. There's not even the possibility of accountability. I also don’t want to be biased to the point of downplaying how much the RP has helped some men. Of course TRP has helped some men. Any philosophy will help some men. Scientology has helped some men. That doesn't mean Scientology i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 12:53 AM
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I perfectly understand what AWALT is, but it's kinda obvious that you do not. So take this 6 years old link and read the replies. AWALT means "All women are like that". That's what it means. Not some women. All women. If there are exceptions, it isn't AWALT. And wrong again, there is a shit ton of truths in TRP, but your own way of thinking seems to wander too much into absolutes. AWALT is an absolute
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 12:46 AM
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The red pill is inherently toxic. The people making it toxic aren't "hijacking" anything, they're taking the philosophy to its natural and inevitable conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 12:44 AM
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You can nail general behaviours down. Exceptions don't disprove rules. Yes, because your axioms are broad enough and contradictory enough to encompass any behavior. No matter what a woman is doing, she's AWALT. It's unfalsifiable. (I know you're probably scientifically illiterate, so you think that "unfalsifiable" is a good thing, but it's not. Unfalsifiable theories are pseudoscience.) Why would their be a study of female gamers in the '90s? They were barely a thing so not worth studying in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 12:41 AM
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Well, you don't really debate with women. I have absolutely seen you debate with women. You're hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 12:33 AM
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So AWALT doesn't say that all women are cheaters I don't think you understand what AWALT is... The thing is that a lot of blackpilers (this includes people who label themselves as redpillers, but are actually blackpillers) spent too much time circlejerking and didn't do their homework and they take AWALT as a binary thing or all women are the same, which is simply not true. AWALT is a binary. That's literally what it is. If it's a spectrum, then it's not AWALT. All redpill terms are like this. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 12:31 AM
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Remember, autism is rarer in women. They're more likely to go off of how they "feel" than the scientific method. All of which is just a big apology for the fact that there's no way to predict female behavior using the red pill. It's a useless theory. You were proving one thing by anecdcote and demanding another thing be proven by PEER REVIEWED STUDY. Not very scientific now, are we? There's nothing inherently unscientific about using anecdotes to understand the world in the absence of scientific…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 12:07 AM
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lol. I mean, personally I have no use for an ideology that doesn't work, and I think it's kind of irrational to cling to a philosophy that doesn't work, but that's a matter of personal choice I guess...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 12:01 AM
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Well yeah, that's how the majority of ideologies and religions are. I mean, not really. Humanism is a theory you don't need to contort into strange positions to make it work. It just works. That's how you know it's a good philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:59 PM
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Again, most people are not autists, they don't treat life as the scientific method. Oh, I'm sorry for my autistic insistence that you predicate your life on a theory that actually works. You're right, that is spergy of me. It's much better to base your life on a theory that makes no sense and makes achieving your objectives harder. REDPILL LOGIC! "I knew tons of girls who play video games" "Nope I need to see a peer-reviewed study." Something something contradicting yourself Uh, I wasn't asking …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:57 PM
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I mean, you're describing a spectrum. AWALT is not a spectrum, it's a binary. Women are, men aren't. This is the thing about all redpill truisms. They're only true if you twist them into shapes they fundamentally don't want to exist in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:48 PM
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:)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:47 PM
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Not everyone is intelligent or an autist, so assuming everyone is going to scientifically pick apart everything until they reach the natural way of doing something is itself flawed. Do you understand what a theory exists for? A theory is only as good as its predictive power. If your theory has no predictive power, then it's a useless theory. The science is self-reported. If you have a better study that shows the opposite, I'd love to see it. Nope, the generational differences don't account for i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:47 PM
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I mean, if AWALT has exceptions, then it's not AWALT. That's just, like, straightforward logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:40 PM
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Like, trp says that women are irrational. But it doesn’t say that women are cursed to forever be irrational regardless of their experiences. No, it absolutely does explicitly say that. Are you new here?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:39 PM
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The goal is there, the strategy and understanding of how to reach that goal is not always there. Assuming a particular goal only makes sense if the behavior aligns with that goal. If the behavior makes the goal less likely rather than more likely, then you have a poor theory and you need to rethink it. If there's no connection whatsoever between what women want and what they do, then their motivations are unknowable. TRP is disproved. Your argument is fatally flawed. And yet they remarry just as…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:37 PM
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A little disappointed that you have no answer to this, tbh. Self-reflection is a good thing.
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 11:31 PM
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They all believe AWALT, don't they? AWALT is a pretty fundamental redpill principle. If you don't believe AWALT, you're not redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:30 PM
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Well then I’m saying that it makes sense to debate with irrational people in hopes of changing them I agree, if those people are capable of changing. But redpillers believe women aren't capable of changing. So by their own admission, debating them is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:29 PM
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Why are we assuming women are all rational and intelligent again? We're not. But your explanation requires such persistent irrationality that it beggars belief. If women are all so irrational that there's no possible way to infer anything from any of their behaviors, then how do we know anything whatsoever about what they actually want? Your explanation is completely self-defeating. If we assume it's true, then nothing else about your philosophy makes sense. If there's no connection whatsoever b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:27 PM
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Doesn't matter if the strategy is effective or not, just the goal If she's spending all this time and money for a few half-enthused compliments, she's an idiot. And I know her, she's not an idiot. Your explanation for their behavior makes significantly less sense than their explanation, and requires more assumptions. She'll just make it up with the next guy having a few extra thousands. Hypergamy, yo Like most women her age, this woman is absolutely done with dating, I never said they weren't ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:19 PM
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The behavior of wasting you time debating women when you consider them fundamentally dishonest and irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:16 PM
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It's clout she cares about. Then she's going about it poorly. "Wow, you're such a good, strong person for doing that." So that's why she's doing it? Years of her life, thousands of dollars of her resources, so that a couple people will say "wow, you're such a good person." Does that seem like a good return on investment to you? Way more nerdy men played video games than nerdy women even back when it was a nerdy, virgin thing. The ratio imbalance was massive. I don't know what to tell you, man. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:13 PM
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I'm examining a behavior on its own terms. On its own terms, this behavior looks irrational to me. Am I wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:10 PM
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Someday she'll get some clout for it She's not getting anywhere near the amount of clout her efforts merit. It's a bad ROI. This explanation makes no sense. She could chase clout in any of a million other ways and get a better return. "Wow, you're such a good, strong person for doing that" and she will be when he dies and she gets everything to herself too. She's supporting him out of her own pocket. He's a significant drain on her financial resources. Whatever little money her ex has left when …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:06 PM
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Mother Theresa had a lot of social clout. Right, but I'm not talking about Mother Theresa. I'm talking about Jenny who runs the food bank. She doesn't have a partner because she doesn't have time. Or Sharon who's caring for her sick ex-husband. She doesn't go out with friends because her ex-partner can't be left by himself. These women have made enormous social and personal sacrifices for the good of others. Trying to explain their behavior in terms of clout-chasing makes no sense. It's not an e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:00 PM
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What do you mean? This sounds like a “true Scotsman” argument. “Sure they’re illogical, but not fundamentally illogical”. The redpill argument is that women are fundamentally dishonest and irrational. There's no talking them out of it. It's their nature. A leopard can't change its spots. If this sounds like No True Scotsman, that's because the red pill is predicated on obvious logical fallacies. Ok, maybe I picked a bad example, if you say so. How about you replace antivaxers with flat earthers,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:56 PM
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No it doesn't. Lying is so they don't look bad and hypergamy is so that their social clout can increase I know lots of women doing quiet, thankless, necessary work for the good of their communities. It eats up their free time and makes them less socially powerful, not more. It comes at the cost of their health, their relationships, and their social existence. This is not how you would organize your life if you only cared about social clout. And yet they're now forced to accept video games as a t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:50 PM
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Antivaxers are illogical. But they're not fundamentally and inescapably illogical. If they were, engaging them would be irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:44 PM
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Lol, I mean. Theoretically, they must be out there, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:42 PM
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Women do shit for social clout first and any other reason second, this is something everyone knows This explanation creates a more complex picture of the world, not less. I've seen other things change with just a little extra push from a majority of men. But you can't change female nature. So that objective is irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:39 PM
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Not really. If I think the red pill is a toxic and deceitful philosophy, it's absolutely rational for me to try to talk people out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:36 PM
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I know a female eingineer, she's an absolute nerd. Waxes engineering at the slightest provocation. You're telling me this is all an act? If she's not autistic, then yes. Occam's razor isn't really on your side here, friend. The primary one is not, because the moment you stop talking about the shit, you make the drive to push back against the blue pill a little weaker The primary objective to convince women to not be hypergamous liars anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:35 PM
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Women in engineering don't care about engineering? Women love money because it makes them look really good to others I know a female eingineer, she's an absolute nerd. Waxes engineering at the slightest provocation. You're telling me this is all an act? Completely irrelevant, because this thread isn't going to prove or disprove anything I'm not interested in proving or disproving anything. I'm interested in hearing your opinion. Do you think this behavior is fundamentally irrational?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:32 PM
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No, they care about how things make them look to others, they don't really care about things and most people You're telling me women in politics don't care about politics? Women in finance don't care about finance? Women in engineering don't care about engineering? Irrelevant if it is or not. It's not irrelevant, it's literally the subject of the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:27 PM
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I don't care about the things women care about, so it would just lead to me doing everything just for the sake of women Women care about all kinds of things. Irrational is how women roll, so I don't see the problem either way. Fight fire with fire So we're agreed that this behavior is fundamentally irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:24 PM
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That just isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:23 PM
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I'm not a red Why not? if the technology works, why not use it to improve your lot? We'd prefer the world where it isn't true But it's always going to be true. Wasting your time trying to change it is irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:22 PM
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What about when the subject is literally "are women all liars?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:21 PM
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There's 80,000 readers here and a third of them have red flairs. I think your math is a little off.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:20 PM
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A redpiller who isn't totally deluded. Never thought I'd see one in the wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:18 PM
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There are way more than 10 redpillers here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:17 PM
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A bluepilled world is worse for us, because it means hypergamy and men getting treated like disposable wallets is rampant That's not worse for you, that's worse for them. Also, hypergamy is also supposed to be one of those immutable characteristics of female nature. You guys sure do spend a lot of time trying to talk women out of their nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:16 PM
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That's the red pill line. Redpillers are rational, women and bluepillers are emotional and irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:15 PM
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I think you're choosing not to see it, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:14 PM
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I'm not pretending to be motivated by pure rational self-interest though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:13 PM
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Every bloop thinks that even if the dude is just having a discussion Not at all. I'm taking people at their word here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:12 PM
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What things are debatable and what things are not?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:12 PM
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Just seems like a waste of time to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:11 PM
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are you sure those are red pillers? Yes. Remember this is not TRP sub I've also seen multiple admissions of absolute anguish in trp. "TRP ruined my life, I wish I could go back to the way things were before" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:10 PM
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I want to know what you think is fun about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:10 PM
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Reinforces the position of the underdog red pill, possibly converting lurkers or readers to it. So you're trying to win lurkers? Why? A bluepilled world is objectively better for you. Less competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:09 PM
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What's fun about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:08 PM
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Also, you might be overestimating how many here are actually angry and despairing. I don't think so. I've never seen so many visibly unhappy people in one place before, minus the incel forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:08 PM
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So you're spending your time here trying to appeal to other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:06 PM
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Explain further.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:04 PM
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What about the redpillers who are clearly not having fun? The ones who are visibly angry and despairing?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:04 PM
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Because blue pill is still the dominant form of society. So? What's the value of asserting your correctness in a BluePill context? I never said hope was logical. So you agree that this is irrational behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:04 PM
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Main objective, reinforce position of correctness. What's the utilitarian value of this objective? How does it improve your life? Secondary objectives, to get admissions of their lying and/or convince them to change their ways. What's the value of an admission? And if all women are liars by nature, then definitionally they cannot change their ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:00 PM
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Are redpillers who debate women behaving irrationally?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 09:58 PM
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I initiate several times a week, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 09:36 PM
1

Gen z women are more sexless than their predecessors, dude. You're wrong, get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 09:23 PM
1

So it's not being inflated by women with a high partner count. It should be lower...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 09:20 PM
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I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 09:19 PM
1

It's the median, not the mean
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 03:09 PM
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The question isn't "are they equivalent", it's "are they acceptable"? There are people on the sub who want both. Are they both being reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 02:03 PM
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What a pointless comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:18 PM
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Hell of a difference between the three And she's allowed not to tolerate a single one. If you move the goalposts, it's impossible The goalposts never moved. There were three goalposts the whole time, and they stayed right where they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:02 PM
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"Yes, you are. And if you're not a rank hypocrite, you'll also rip into the men in this sub who say they want to marry a virgin." Riiiight. Because if one of those things is okay, they both are. This really isn't hard, friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:00 PM
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Or I'm following the ones relevant to me, my clan and faith. That's great. I'm going to continue celebrating Christmas, attending Chinese New Year celebrations, and practicing yoga without giving a shit if some snotty guy on the internet thinks that makes me a hypocrite. Google No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:51 PM
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Pssst: it's "pastime"
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 12:49 PM
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80% of the men I know are getting regular sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:48 PM
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I'm sorry, I thought I was talking to adults who know something about the world. My mistake.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre25/06/21 12:47 PM
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Okay. Have fun with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:46 PM
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She was always discussing all of those things. Those are three things she will not tolerate in a boyfriend. This isn't complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:44 PM
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I'm sorry that's how you interpreted what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:43 PM
1

lol, sorry for trying to help you out, you little ingrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:41 PM
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Arguments splinter, try to keep up. I've only presented one hypothetical. You seem to be having trouble following very simple threads. Like: "...redpill men who want a virgin bride, versus bluepill women who want a porn-abstinent boyfriend...." You're slightly hypocritical and all over the place, try to keep up. Uh, I didn't say either of those were hypocritical. You really are having trouble following this discussion, aren't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:41 PM
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Alright, kid. You're right. Your situation is hopeless. Have a nice life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:36 PM
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Where did I say that? If you're not following all traditions completely, then you're picking and choosing the ones you want to follow. Ah the SIGN language and general bullshit appears I don't know what this means.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:34 PM
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Firstly Horseshit. She did. Several times. I honestly don't understand why you're having trouble keeping up, she's made it very simple for you. Try understanding English without projection, it's really easy. That's not what projection is...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:33 PM
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I cant work on women wanting to fuck me. You cant change people`s thoughts and desires. You can make yourself a more attractive prospect. And lets not talk about what you just did. A massive fucking flaw. What did I just do?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:32 PM
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Firstly, who's referring to red pillers? I am. That's the entire hypothetical. redpill men who want a virgin bride, versus bluepill women who want a porn-abstinent boyfriend. Try to keep up. Binary species... So then you agree, it's acceptable to want qualities in a partner that you don't possess yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:31 PM
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It is a flaw. Flaws aren't necessarily your fault. A person with depression has a flaw, that doesn't mean it's their fault. A person with PTSD has a flaw. That doesn't mean it's their fault. A flaw is just an issue you need to work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:28 PM
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And if I follow that tradition completely? You follow all traditions completely, do you? Christian traditions? Jewish traditions? Hindu traditions? You must keep a very busy calendar.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:26 PM
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Look it up, dude. I'm not here to do your homework for you.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre25/06/21 12:25 PM
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She's outlined them to you clearly. Several times. Try to be better than this, dude...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:24 PM
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If those men are virgins, offering a traditional marriage, then no, they aren't hypocrites. How many redpillers are virgins, you disingenuous slimeball? It means you analyse ALL expectations and only demand from others what you do yourself. Oh, okay. I demand that my boyfriend have a penis. I guess that's unreasonable, since I don't have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:23 PM
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I never insulted nor hurt women physically. I never said you did. Me having a unhealthy relationship with a KID AND A WIFE BEATER IS MY FAULT. I didn't say it was your fault. But it's your problem. It's going to impact your future relationships, if you don't clear it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:20 PM
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1)List them You're surly. You're bitter. You're resistant to change. You spend too much time on the internet. You have an unhealthy relationship with the opposite sex. You have an unhealthy relationship with your father. Want some more? Been doing that for 6 years now. Great, how's that going for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:18 PM
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I said many not any. Being pessimistic is a major one but none is perfect. You have many more flaws than that, son. I can tell from here. You:Ancedotes of ugly men finding love to dissprove what i said. Me:Ancedotes of men with horrible personalities finding love. You:But you cant compare those things,mating is a crapshoot! I'm not telling you not to compare those things? I just don't understand why you would. Yeah, some ugly people find love. And yeah, some unpleasant people find love. But you …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:16 PM
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What's this? You exchange wedding bands, but you don't slaughter a newborn calf and drink its blood on the eve of Samhain? What are you, trying to pick and choose the traditions you follow?? You hypocrite!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:13 PM
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Many deformed people find love? many disabeled people find love? Yes. I know several of both. This isnt even bragging but i litteraly dont have many flaws. I don't know you very well, and I could list maybe a dozen of your flaws. The fact that you think you don't have any is really worrisome. Therfore muh deformed guy found love therfore you can suddenly doesnt apply when i say my father found a wife?Because its personality i am questioning here? I don't understand what you're trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:08 PM
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I'm talking about AntWill's boundaries for her relationship. Come on, man. Keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:06 PM
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Secondly, when they publish those expectations, I'm free to rip them apart, as is anyone. Yes, you are. And if you're not a rank hypocrite, you'll also rip into the men in this sub who say they want to marry a virgin. Thirdly, you DON'T have a right to unrealistic expectations without criticism. I agree. Not me, and not any man who wants to marry a virgin. I'm not becrying the same for men. Evidence to the contrary What "evidence to the contrary"? I've literally never said men shouldn't marry vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:05 PM
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I 100% agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:58 AM
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I am pretty confident. Okay, good. Now start working on other aspects of your character. Confidence alone isn't enough. Yet my father found a wife. Weird how that works. You can't base your expectations on that. Mating is a crapshoot. What worked for your father might not work for you. You need to throw everything you have at this, or you're going to lose. AND YET my best friend is getting all the glory and attention when both of us do the same thing. What a great life i am so grateful. I dont e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:56 AM
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Sigh. Kid, you've got some problems. People are telling you to focus on your confidence out of kindness. Because you can change your attitude, but you can't meaningfully change your looks. And if you spend your whole life bitterly resenting your ugliness, you'll never develop an attractive personality, and nobody will ever want to go out with you. These people really are trying to help you. You just have to be the best version of yourself and hope it's good enough for somebody. That's really all…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:49 AM
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Did you see the part about unrealistic expectations? AntWill is allowed to have as many unreasonable expectations as she sees fit. To whom? You set and uphold unrealistic expectations, but becry the same from men? I'm not becrying the same for men. Men are entitled to hold out for a virgin. AntWill is entitled to reject men who use porn. Those things are both equally reasonable. You're being a hypocrite by supporting one and not the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:47 AM
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Women absolutely struggle to attract men. Are you kidding me? I've known so many lonely women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:43 AM
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It is unfair. That doesn't mean you can't get a girlfriend. Most of the ugliest men I've ever met have been married, it's not that hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:35 AM
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They tell quite the opposite. They say that women cant struggle with attracting men. Yeah, they say a lot of contradictory things. That i am probably abus1ng women and a rap1st in the making because since my scumbag of a father found a wife and i cant i am worse than him (: ...do you have an alt? I feel like I might know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:34 AM
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Men in PPD tell to women that if she is not getting dates she is not entitled to anything Yep. Are you new here? Or far worse stuff that i got told on bluepilled subs. What worse things are they telling you in BP subs?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:31 AM
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Yeah i am better of not having any girl friends and a GF!What a happy life!!!!!!!!! Oh come on. You can get a girlfriend. You're very young still, stop being so hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:30 AM
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I see men in PPD doing that all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:29 AM
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Well, I'm not sure what to tell you except that those women sound uncool, and you're better off not having them in your life. I know it's unfair that your friend is popular and you aren't, but, well, life is unfair. And it's unfair to ugly women as well as ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:27 AM
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This is the answer I was looking for, finally. It’s all rooted in insecurity. Sure. And the expectation that your bride be a virgin is rooted in insecurity. People are allowed to have insecurities, and turn them into dealbreakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:25 AM
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The sexual revolution happened in the 70s, dude. Older women are pretty fucking liberated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:21 AM
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Classmates from college,some older women and girls in my HS from the past mocked me as well. Well you know, sometimes people will playfully tease their classmates to try and build rapport with them. Are you sure they were being mean, and not just trying to get to know you? Yet they never made fun of my best friend being a nerd in that sense either. Are you saying your friend is more attractive than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:19 AM
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She saying she just wouldn't date someone who watches porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:08 AM
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If it's okay for redpillers to only marry virgins, it's okay for AntWill to only date men who abstain from porn. Enough of these redpill double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:04 AM
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Normal everyday women...? WHO? Are these classmates? Work colleagues? Neighbors? Sisters? Girlfriends? Who is doing this and what's the context?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:01 AM
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I never said otherwise. My point was you saying thousands isnt close to 4 bilion was wrong way to put it. I was mostly kidding, dude... Women IRL mock me for my hobbies and women on reddit(And bluepilled men) say that the reason i dont get the same thrist as Henry(when that thread was made i pretty much vented out) is because of lack of confidence while building PC. Okay, well, there's a lot to unpack here... who are these women irl who are mocking you for your hobbies? Can you give me some cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:59 AM
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Hypocrisy still gets us. Especially when someone doesn't want us to look at other women, but won't take our name in marriage.... That's not hypocrisy...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:52 AM
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Men understand boundaries, we understand them decades before women do. Clearly not. You seem to be struggling with this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:51 AM
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me Give me a more accessible example, I don't know what you look like. This is kind of funny to say because a lot of women dont even know about henry cavil(and men too) and a lot of people dont use twitter and then there are people without internet lol. You tried to sound smart here but fact is saying muh 4 bilion isnt relevant. Just like saying:But bro only 100 women rejected you there are 4 bilion women in this world-you wont even meet 99.9% of those women. All women aren't attracted to Henry …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:49 AM
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Silly, only men are allowed to have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:43 AM
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You're setting a hard limit, thus you are inadvertently bringing force to bear. Are the guys here who refuse to date virgins "bringing force to bear" by setting a hard limit? This is very self-serving logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:43 AM
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Nah its just funny because i dont see ugly short guys with CONFIDENCE there. What's your idea of a short ugly guy? And yes the tweets got thousands of likes of him just building a PC. Yes, he's attractive to a lot of women. But still not most of them. Do you think thousands of like represents MOST women? There are four billion of us on this planet, you know. But me doing the same is considered a hobby of a loser Okay, this is kind of a non-sequitur. Are you angry that women in general find you l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:38 AM
1

It's wrong to kiss someone on the cheek?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:29 AM
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Instead, it's much more likely all of us rural types would set up small communities of farming, food prep, and livestock communes to survive. That scenario doesn't allow me to feel superior to women though :(
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:21 AM
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Every woman on social media isn't simping for him. You're only noticing the ones who do. It's called confirmation bias. Why does it just so happen that he is at the top of ladyboners What do you mean? Somebody has to be at the top of ladyboners. Who do you think it should be?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:19 AM
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Also, how many financial crises have there been since feminism started? Why weren't any of those crises the end of feminism? I think this guy might be kind of a dumbass
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:04 AM
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HAHAHAHAHAHA are you serious???
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 09:57 AM
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Like such a high 90% that you are statistically irrelevant. No... it's not 90%. I don't know if you're too dumb to understand the study or if you didn't read it. What it said is that even the most popular man just isn't popular with that many women. Even if we assume Henry Cavil is the most attractive man on earth, he's still only attractive to like 60% of women. I don't find Henry Cavil attractive, and I know lots of other women who don't. I actually only know one woman irl who is attracted to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 09:51 AM
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Every man I know who's getting regular sex is making some woman a priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 09:42 AM
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Yes, but the 20% they like is different for every woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 08:48 AM
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My God you're long-winded.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 08:15 AM
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So your dazzling insight is that poor women are more likely to turn to prostitution?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 08:03 AM
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and even hopefully legislate against attractive people r/persecutionfetish
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 07:59 AM
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Studies here showed that waiting for sex until marriage makes the marriage stronger (and the strongest or all couplings). No they don't. They show that people who don't have sex before marriage are less likely to get divorced. The obvious confounding variable here is religion. Religious people don't have sex before marriage and they also don't get divorced. Postponing sex until your wedding night won't save your marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 07:53 AM
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20-30 would presumably be even lower?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 07:20 AM
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So I should feel entitled to judge people based on their religion too right? That's their company, am I right? Of course. If somebody follows a religion where gay people are executed and women are mistreated, and they aren't actively fighting those norms, it is absolutely fair to judge them harshly. We wonder about if we can accept androids as people in a near future and then we are at each other's throat for something as stupid as saying "I don't want intimacy with women". You haven't been judg…
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 07:08 AM
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Women dominate "caring/helping" professions because it's easier to get into those professions. It's easier to get educated, licensed and certified for those professions. It's easier to build a job/career in those professions. The science, disciplines, and bodies of work in the caring/helping professions do not require the exacting standards, rigorous training, and intellectual demands of STEM, law, medicine, business, banking, finance, marketing, etc. (I mean, come on. Social work is NOT as exac…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre25/06/21 07:02 AM
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Maybe you don't read and you just like cherry picking, but I will take the hassle to explain this again: everyone sees others as NPCs. No. They don't. I don't see people that way. It isn't necessary to see people that way. Its when we find comfort in these labels and we use them to judge others preventively and assume everything about them, that's when we dehumanize the most. She didn't judge you preemptively. She judged you by the company you keep. That's a fair way to judge someone. The compan…
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 06:53 AM
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It's clear that she sees any MGTOW as an NPC as well Why is this a bad thing? That's how all MGTOWs see her. Why is it okay for you to see things this way but not for her? I am disappointed that we just played a game that is supposed to teach us about humanity, kindness and dialogue but we just treat each others like androids. I agree, that is sad. Which is why I make an effort not to see other human beings as NPCs. What an awful, dehumanizing way to look at people. I can't fathom why you'd want…
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 06:38 AM
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So you're complaining that women see you as NPCs while calling women NPCs. Makes sense.
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 06:20 AM
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Music is very powerful. It speaks to your heart, not your head. If a man writes a song that touches you deeply, you feel like that man understands you on a soul-deep level. No politician or athlete can create that kind of intimate bond with someone they've never met.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 06:03 AM
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Elliot Rodger hated men who were successful with women. That's a sentiment I hear relatively often among incels and MGTOWs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 05:34 AM
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Muh overused, unfunny "muh" joke
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 05:28 AM
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Looks come free to some guys. And philomexa's husband didn't have to invest any money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 05:12 AM
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Also, you guys weren't talking about general rules. He said: "You have never been with a man where the relationship is actually free." That's what you were discussing, your personal experience. He's the one confusing the personal with the general lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 05:08 AM
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This is the millionth time a woman responds to a post about general rules with their personal experience You weren't talking about general rules. You were talking about philomexa's personal experience: "You have never been with a man where the relationship is actually free." This was the matter in question. Not whether men generally pay more for dates than women. You're the one who can't distinguish between the personal and the general.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 05:05 AM
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Half the redpillers in this thread are whining about it...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 04:58 AM
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That isn't true, American women have a median of 4 lifetime sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 04:57 AM
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It kills motivation period, for everything, not just women. Where did you get this idea from? Apparently she's right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 04:52 AM
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LMAO Jesus Christ. If they had the slightest fucking clue...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 04:04 AM
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This would improve the sub dramatically tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 03:35 AM
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Basically
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 03:28 AM
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It's such a childish way of looking at potential partners. Do any of these people ever get married or have happy relationships? I can't imagine that they do if they see their partners as happiness pumps, which they seem to. What a sad, lonely way to go through life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 03:13 AM
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It's definitely true for some women. Some. Not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 02:47 AM
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I mean "one shouldn't complain", not "you shouldn't complain." I'm saying it's hypocritical for redpill guys to whine about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 02:44 AM
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However, the vast majority prefer well above the average size and I would say all women want no less than a top 25% to top 20% penis. I've written quite a lot in my other comment about why this isn't true. I'm glad you've seen sense at least a little. Most women are average, you're just saying that you're speaking for all women except those on the extremes. Uh, yes? That's more or less what "average" means. The people who aren't on the extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 02:38 AM
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Gay men are an abnormal minority, studying them is worthless lmfao Wrong on both counts. Gay men are not abnormal, they are within the natural distribution for male sexuality. And they absolutely have something to tell us about male sexuality. When scientists study female sexuality, they don't just study straight women. They study straight women, gay women, bisexual women, and asexual women. Because that's how you get a complete picture of female sexuality. And then, as a bonus, interesting simi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 02:31 AM
1

I've learned that men will let groundless insecurities fester inside them for years, then lash out at you viciously when you try to correct them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 02:17 AM
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So don't complain that redpill women don't see men as human beings, then. They aren't supposed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 02:16 AM
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The best relationships are when people who have issues learn to help each other out. This is a beautiful way of looking at it. It's nice to see people in this sub who have a healthy attitude towards dating :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 02:00 AM
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Wait, Men have to accept Women who have high number counts This is rpw. Nobody there thinks men should accept women with high body counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:52 AM
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Nobody on rpw thinks that's okay, so this is a false equivalence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:50 AM
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lol right? Why is it ok for redpill men to say this, but not okay for redpill women to say the things in the op?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:49 AM
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Any woman who actually believes this doesn’t see men as human beings. Just as utility objects and supporting actors in the movie about her life. That's kinda the vibe I get from RPW, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:45 AM
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Stay single. A woman's MO is to latch on to their host and extract their status, money or resources. That is their purpose and the reason why you even want a HVM. A man can change a woman's life overnight, outside of sex women offer literally nothing to men. Jesus Christ, the way men talk to women in this sub. And then have the nerve to complain that PPD women are unpleasant. The fucking cheek...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:33 AM
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The men I know aren't like this either. idk what these other guys are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:28 AM
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Can't say I agree. I know a ton of handsome, pleasant, interesting, well-adjusted, dateable men. Could be that I'm spoiled for choice because I live in the city; but I think it's more likely that the ladies over at RPW are just attracting a bad crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:26 AM
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Woooooooord.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:22 AM
1

Henry Cavil isn't attractive, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:06 AM
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Jesus Christ, this is a prime example of why debating with women here is pointless If it's pointless, then stop doing it. Don't choose to spend your free time debating women while simultaneously whining about how pointless it is debating women. Do the rational, adult thing, and stop engaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:01 AM
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I don't think you understood his comment...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 11:56 PM
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Depending on the guy, it can make a huge difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 11:15 PM
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I'm not talking about men before you. I'm talking about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 08:33 PM
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Maybe take that logic to its natural conclusion and learn something about why women are being unpleasant to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:32 PM
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Haha, I guess people wouldn't be posting there if they didn't want to be talked out of their position c:
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 11:05 AM
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I've actually seen it fairly often in the female-dominated subs. Definitely way more common than on reddit at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 11:00 AM
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They would be gay then. Sorry fam, you're wrong about that. A lot of straight men are turned on by the very sight of a penis. Scientists think that's where the male attraction to trans women comes from. And proof that women dgaf and would gladly take micro penises? I didn't say women didn't care about penis size at all. I said they care way less than men do. Most women care enough that they wouldn't be thrilled to encounter a micropenis, it's true, but they don't care a hell of a lot more than t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 10:57 AM
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I didn't say anything about looks or height. I also didn't say straight men were sexually attracted to dicks (although a lot of them are).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 10:38 AM
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gay or straight. If straight men like d....they arent straight. Straight men like THEIR OWN dicks. Way way WAY more than women do. Women just aren't that interested in penises. Why would men be insecure about it in the first place? It's just the way you're wired. Men naturally want to be big and scary and imposing. They want to be able to ravish a woman and leave her permanently altered. Women know that, they know you have this insecurity, and they use it against you ruthlessly and cynically. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 10:27 AM
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So straight women like a dick therfore they are obsessed over it? Straight women don't like dick anywhere near as much as men do, gay or straight. That's my entire point. Women in general are vastly less interested in penises than men are. Gay men like D because they have...the same prefrences as straight women. No... no they really don't. I'm a straight woman with gay friends, trust me, this isn't true... I wouldnt care less about my height or dicksize if women werent shaming those 2 things 24/…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 10:22 AM
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I'm not entirely sure what you mean by emotionally explore, idk what that guy could really do to change his view on this subject lmao. He could ask a woman he trusts how she really feels, and then trust her to tell him the truth. He could ask many women he only kind of trusts how they feel, and trust that the truth will reveal itself in the average response. That takes a degree of maturity most redpillers simply don't possess though. Redpillers need to believe that all women are liars by nature,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 09:49 AM
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But they see the evidence in the "pros" for big dicks and don't see any of the evidence in the "cons" for big dicks. Yeah, of course. On some level, every guy wants a big dick. These guys have that same nagging insecurity all guys have, but they don't have the emotional maturity to actually explore it and see if it's valid. They'd rather hang out on forums like this one, writing self-hating fanfiction to justify their insecurities to each other. It's so utterly pointless and childish. I have zer…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 09:20 AM
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Hahahaha oh my God, it's like a receding horizon of bullshit that NEVER ENDS D:
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 09:07 AM
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I don't get it either. How many sexually active men and women have to tell them this is how it actually works before they believe us? It's so weird how committed they are to their self-hating blackpill fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 09:04 AM
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So as utterly marinated in bullshit as a redpiller, then. Just a slightly different flavor.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 09:01 AM
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I mean I think generally even a man being groped by a woman probably won't feel the same level of fear as the reverse, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 08:01 AM
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haha, np.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:44 AM
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I'm a woman, lol. The topic is sensitive to me because sexual assault is inherently a sensitive subject to me. It arouses powerful emotions. I agree that it isn't inherently more sensitive than many of the things said here about women, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:38 AM
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I mean sure, but come on. Some issues are more sensitive than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:24 AM
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I agree, they're being reactionary. But I understand why they are. It's a sensitive subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:15 AM
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I generally agree with you that men probably aren't affected by hetero assault in the same way women are. But I think you're receiving pushback because you sound dismissive of men who were traumatized by their experiences. Basically, I think it should be okay to say that there are differences between how men and women process assault, without writing off all male victims of female assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:09 AM
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I don't think most women actually wanna experience being raped or pseudo raped via some roleplay. To be exact, a third of women do, per the study I sent. So, not most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 06:49 AM
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You longing for those past guys when you’re with the supposed one you love is a prime example of this. I'm not longing for them. I'm longing for a time now passed. By default you longing for that is, whether you consciously mean to or not, comparing your current to your past. Not at all. The different men made me happy in different ways. There's no comparing them. If your current was the best you could do/ever do, thoughts like those of your past wouldn’t even come up. My current is WAY out of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 06:29 AM
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Yes, she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 06:27 AM
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No, it was about women’s inability to take accountability for their faults and it always was that; you’re the one who shifted goalposts and projected. I didn't shift the goalposts; I just pointed out the very same faults in the men of PPD and your own inability to take accountability for them. It's more of a complementary point than an opposing one. I just think it's ironic that you accused the opposite sex of doing something you were doing in the very same comment, that's all. It doesn't make y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 06:24 AM
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You’re not above your biological wiring to be hypergamous. You’re not some special virtuous snowflake who’s above doing this No, you're right. I'm not. That just isn't my wiring. Maybe it's other women's wiring, but it isn't mine. I don't know why redpill men need to believe that all women are constantly comparing our current lovers with our former lovers. But it just isn't true. When I long for an old lover, I'm longing for something quintessential about his energy and about our relationship. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 06:18 AM
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Yes, you've shifted your argument to be one you can win. At first it was about the meanness and unreasonableness of bluepill women. Now I've made a pretty good case that you also are mean and unreasonable, so you've decided that isn't your argument anymore. Now it's about, uh, the futility of arguing with bluepillers, or something. Very consistent. Much logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 06:10 AM
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For that to be supported, we'd have to look at male loneliness before and after the one child policy. Did it really increase that drastically? Yes. Chinese culture is pretty similar to what you described Japan as IME. They are just less organized. This is a very Western perspective. East Asian cultures vary enormously. It also assumes that Chinese society would be static. No... it doesn't. The one child policy is one factor in a myriad of ever-changing factors. The point is, it's a large one. Ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 06:04 AM
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My point is that you're accusing other people of doing things that you yourself are doing. It's kinda shameful that I need to break down such a simple point to make it digestible for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 05:59 AM
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Women are wired to compare. It’s in their nature to do so and question if she has the best she can get, so she will always (even if it’s the last thing she’ll admit) compare. No, we aren't. This is something insecure manosphere men tell themselves to justify their own internalized paranoia. If your girlfriend is happy with you, she isn't comparing you to anyone. If she's unhappy with you, you have problems you need to solve.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 05:58 AM
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Nah, a bit of practice and you'd be okay and would probably prefer it. I've had well over a year of practice. It's fine. But if my boyfriend were smaller we'd probably have sex more often, because I wouldn't need to be hyperaroused for it to happen. That's what I mean when I say I prefer average sized dicks. Beyond a certain size, anything bigger is just a chore. If you're against AWALT, then you can't hold this stance. Women aren't a monolith, you cant speak on behalf of them all. lmfao I am sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 05:56 AM
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I specified straight men so I'll ignore the gay men part. You shouldn't ignore it. Gay men are men. Studying them tells you something fundamental about male psychology. Men are much more preoccupied with the penis. Practically just casual body dysphoria, not really lusting over it like I said. Men absolutely lust over large dicks. When you watch porn, do the men have small dicks or big dicks? Women lie about sexual things like all the time, part of that is that if they are in a relationship they…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 05:51 AM
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Looking at the men of the Western world and Japan, that is likely to happen whether the one child policy is enacted or not. This is so tenuous, on so many levels. Firstly, the epidemic of male loneliness just isn't a problem in the West the way it is in China. Japan and China are a more fair comparison, but you run into problems there too. Yes, Japanese men are doing badly, but that's down to a complex web of social problems. Japan is a rigidly hierarchical, rule-based society where mediocrity o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 05:46 AM
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That's not comparing. That's enjoying separately.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 05:41 AM
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Fair point; women on this reddit are more likely to be the unattractive, older and bitter kind. But to some degree, women in general are more likely to shift accountability away from themselves. The fact that you can say this, and then in the same breath call women "harsh" and "unaccountable", just shows you have no self-insight whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 05:41 AM
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The point is, the so called female infanticide due to the one child policy isn't as big of a deal as people would like to pretend It's a big deal because it means a lot of lonely men. Some of those men will get wives from abroad, but that's an expensive solution. It's definitely not a measure available to all. The poor men will simply go without, and that's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:49 AM
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:)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:41 AM
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But it hasn't been a disaster for them like some people on this forum have claimed. You're saying it "hasn't been a disaster" because it hasn't brought the economy to a grinding halt. Nothing's going to bring China's economy to a halt. Economies are more resilient than that. But it's absolutely been a disaster for the millions of men who can't get wives, and those men matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:34 AM
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Rather than to say "I don't like electronic music" I would've said "I don't know electronic music" That's EXACTLY WHAT SHE SAID. You asked "what's your favorite size of dick" and she said "I DON'T KNOW". That is an absolutely valid answer to an utterly moronic question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:23 AM
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like you probably actually tried to have sex with a big penis, and found out the hard way that it wont work out for you. I was excited for the sex because I loved the man the penis was attached to. That's it. His dick size made zero difference to my excitement. And it worked out fine, it just would have been easier if the guy was slightly smaller. I could almost bet money that whenever a woman doesn't like big she has some condition or whatever the prevents her from enjoying it You're just wrong…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:22 AM
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Uhh, men absolutely lust over dick size. Are you kidding me? Gay men are often massive size queens. Straight men fantasize about having huge dicks, tell jokes about huge dicks, watch porn with huge dicks, worry that their partners' old lovers had huge dicks, etc. Women who do this kind of thing are the vanishing minority. The vast majority of women do not care about dick size. Louder for those in back: The vast majority of women DO NOT CARE about dick size. They just don't. The fact that you thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:18 AM
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Or is your vagina just small so a big one hurts too much? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:06 AM
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No, it's absolutely a direct answer. The answer is, "you're asking a stupid question." That's a direct answer. If I asked you "which is your favorite Dark ambient or Ambient industrial electronic band", you would be giving me an absolutely valid answer if you said: "I don't like electronic music." Rejecting the premise of an invalid question is valid. That's what chubbybutt did. She rejected the premise of your question. It's an invalid question, when applied to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:05 AM
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Oh no, many women prefer larger penises, there is no such thing as a woman that desires average sized or small penises at that without having some condition such as you do. You are full of shit. I can tell already that you get all your knowledge about women from the internet, and not from talking to actual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 03:58 AM
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:)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 03:54 AM
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And women do care about size quite a lot, perhaps more then men because they're the ones that have it put into them This isn't true. Men care about dick size more than women, 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 03:52 AM
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I've never in my life heard of a woman happy to see an average dick Well now you've heard of one, because I prefer average dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 03:49 AM
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Can I just say that you sound like an honest-to-God grownup, and it really makes you stand out against the white noise of manchildren and sexually-stunted degenerates that populate this sub? I think that's why you're confused. Because you're approaching the problem as a grownup, and nobody else is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 03:48 AM
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lol no she didn't, she answered quite straightforwardly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 03:43 AM
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No. She said the opposite of that, that she will appreciate them in different ways rather than grade them against each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 03:41 AM
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Bingo. PPD women show full and well the harsh realities of how women operate, and it is that they a lot of them take no accountability. They are wired to do so This is such BS. The men in here are at least as nasty and relentless as the women. Manosphere men in general are super unpleasant. Also, has it occurred to you that there might be a selection bias regarding the kind of women you see in here? That women in this sub probably aren't representative of women generally? I know scientific liter…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 03:31 AM
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:( *hugs*
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 03:28 AM
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Yes, but I've been keeping score for over a decade. You've been keeping score for six months.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 02:55 AM
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When did I say that they were against men's rights? You implied it by equating /r/againstmesnrights with /r/againstwomensrights. The first is anti a particular community. The second is anti the concept of women having rights. They're not equivalent. Pretending they are is disingenuous. I'm saying the title alone would get it yeeted Yes, because there's no sub called /r/womensrights, so /r/againstwomensrights can only be opposing the concept of women having rights. There's only one possible inter…
/r/MensRights24/06/21 01:34 AM
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I've been on reddit well over ten years, in that time I've seen maybe two men admit that they were wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 12:25 AM
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Men dressing up absolutely matters. My boyfriend looks edible in a suit. He's also delightful in athletic wear or pajamas. There are men that can't really be helped of course, but they're a minority. Almost any man is improved by a well put together outfit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 12:22 AM
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Not an equivalent. /r/againstmesnrights is against mensrights the sub, not the concept of men having rights. You are being deliberately disingenuous by pretending to interpret the sub name that way.
/r/MensRights24/06/21 12:20 AM
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Sex expands the vagina. What is it with MGTOWs and believing long-debunked myths? This isn't true. Sex doesn't expand the vagina. Arousal expands the vagina, but only temporarily. Seriously, you could literally just google this.
/r/MGTOW11/06/21 06:05 AM
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there's just a lot more so they do a lot more damage as a whole i think There's a lot more of them because women tend to take care of their children whereas men are much more likely to abandon them.
/r/ExRedPill11/04/21 06:01 PM
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This is a good way to identify if an ideology is bullshit. When the enemy is both very smart and sneaky and evil, but also stupid Literally a defining feature of fascism.
/r/ExRedPill11/04/21 05:36 PM
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Well yeah, no shit. Did you really need this guy to tell you being attractive is a good thing?
/r/ExRedPill11/04/21 04:51 PM
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Did you miss the part where he was fat and still got girls?
/r/ExRedPill11/04/21 02:35 PM
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Why are so many people complaining about this? Did none of you read the part about him being fat and still getting girls?
/r/ExRedPill11/04/21 04:45 AM
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Most girls rejected him, some people bullied him, one girl slept with him. What are you not getting?
/r/ExRedPill11/04/21 04:44 AM
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This guy has some great advice.
/r/ExRedPill11/04/21 04:42 AM
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It’s like Bill Gates coming to an impoverished community and saying “money isn’t everything! Just live your life.” Sure, that’s easy for you to say No, it's like a self-made millionaire coming to an impoverished community and telling them how to make money. This guy has some useful insights for you if you'd just listen to him.
/r/ExRedPill11/04/21 04:40 AM
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Did you miss all the stuff about reading books, cultivating a carefree attitude, and learning self-love?
/r/ExRedPill11/04/21 04:30 AM
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Give this guy's channel a gander.
/r/ExRedPill11/04/21 04:25 AM
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This channel has some pretty good advice.
/r/ExRedPill11/04/21 04:24 AM
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Thanks for posting your experiences. I hope things are getting better for you, and that you are learning to overcome your issues. Maybe relevant, I saw a post in another sub about a youtube channel that teaches social and dating skills without the misogyny of TRP, here's the link if you're interested. It looked pretty good to me. Hopefully you can get something useful out of it.
/r/ExRedPill11/04/21 04:00 AM
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You can tell women what women find attractive, but this boy can't tell you how to escape a cult that draws in people of all ages and genders. Interesting.
/r/ExRedPill11/04/21 03:10 AM
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...as does any skeptic forum. It's a good way to avoid groupthink Well let's do an experiment, shall we? Go to /r/skeptic and write a self post titled "should women be allowed to vote?" Tell me if you get upvoted. I think that will determine rather definitively whether TRP has more in common with /r/conspiracy or with /r/skeptic. Also, speaking as someone with many years experience moderating forums, you are completely wrong in your assumption that allowing insane posts prevents groupthink. What…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 03:56 PM
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They're both as valid as each other man, simple as that. Well, it's difficult to argue with that kind of logic. Neither is based on solid fact and both are exaggerations. One is a mild exaggeration at worst, or indeed statistically accurate, depending on precise wording. The other is simply wrong. They are by no stretch of logic "as valid as each other". You are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 01:32 AM
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They're both factually wrong. 10% of men aren't rapists One is illustrating a valid and provable point, the other is demonstrably not. The numbers are changeable and immaterial. You are more many times likely to end up in a car accident than be raped This is irrelevant to the truth value of the M&M analogy. You don't like the conclusions that some people draw from it. That doesn't make the analogy untrue. It's used literally just to troll people This is not true. No one is meant to actually thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 01:21 AM
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I'm trying to explain to you what we think and you're like, "no way that's not what you guys think!" Why would you do that? LOL, this is hilarious. TRP delusion and hypocrisy literally knows no bounds. Please, wise redpill master, explain to my feeble female brain what the truth is. Ahahahahaha. We all know full well that there are good women out there. This is not true. You are simply wrong. Would you like me to link to a comment where I've said those exact words and been upvoted?? Would you be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 01:11 AM
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It doesn't matter. The analogy is still intended to illustrate the dangers of a minority. AWALT is still the precise opposite, and still factually wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 01:07 AM
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FYI I've been here, in /r/purplepilldebate longer than you've known about reddit. I've been on reddit since it started. Don't patronize me. The truth is that the core of TRP is perfectly scientifically sound. How scientists approach a topic: "Here's the data. Let's see what conclusions it supports." How redpillers approach a topic: "Here's the conclusion. Let's see what evidence we can find to support it. And that's not the only problem. The other problem is that the conclusions TRP decides on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 01:06 AM
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The M&M analogy is meant to illustrate the destructive potential of a tiny fraction of men. The point is that good men and evil men are visually indistinguishable, and that choosing the wrong one can have devastating consequences. AWALT is literally the exact opposite. It's the assertion that good women are rare to non-existent. It doesn't matter if the two memes are (very) occasionally used in a similar way. One is right and the other is wrong. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 12:32 AM
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The TRP approach to science is to look at a complex phenomenon, choose a single explanation for it, cherry pick data to support that conclusion, and dismiss all conflicting data as feminazi propaganda. It doesn't matter if you have peer reviewed evidence or not. When you boil a complicated issue down to a single factor, to the exclusion of all other factors, you're still wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 12:23 AM
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None the less, we use "awalt" the way they use "what about the menz" You use AWALT for whatever the situation demands. It can be literal or rhetorical. It means nothing. You might also want to look up the M&M meme. I'm familiar with the m&m analogy, sweetie. It isn't relevant here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 11:46 PM
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Actually, I don't need to do that. I pointed out an inconsistency in his argument. That in itself undermines the argument, without the need for any extraneous proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 09:53 PM
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Jesus christ. Stop circlejerking already. Its an anecdotal fallacy If you think anecdotal evidence is the sole evidence against TRP, you don't have a very good understanding of science. Also, anecdotal proof is in fact perfectly good evidence against braindead assertions like "AWALT". I'd suggest you read up a little more on formal logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 09:51 PM
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I'm guessing you just didn't understand the point, hun :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 09:27 PM
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I love how uptight you guys get when you run into a point you can't refute :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 09:24 PM
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Ever been in a feminist forum? We use "awalt" the way they use "what about the menz" Right, except that those actually mean completely different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 09:22 PM
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AWALT is a generalization used for teaching purposes. Yes, exactly, AWALT is whatever it needs to be in the moment. Which most often is a blinding device used to filter out reality and assimilate more easily into the redpill matrix. Plenty of fish in the sea... and not a single one is a unicorn. Hahaha, right after calling it a "teaching device". You literally couldn't make this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 09:17 PM
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It's all just generalities. Except when AWALT. Then it's universal. But that's harder to defend, so sometimes it's just generalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 08:57 PM
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You are seeing what you want to see. Yes, you've successfully identified the personality defect that allows trp to exist. No amount of logic, common sense or contradictory information can override this imperative. I'd advise you not to waste your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 08:53 PM
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You're really surprised? Isn't that all they ever do?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 08:48 PM
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Don't bother, these guys believe what they need to believe in order to get through the day. Any information that threatens their world view will be dismissed. Imagine you're talking to a cult member, and suddenly their behavior will begin to make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 08:46 PM
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Ahh, redpill hand waving at it's finest. AWALT, except when NAWALT. Unicorns are as rare as the current situation requires them to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 08:42 PM
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That's great, but most women insult men for being virgins. Women call men virgins because they know it's an insult that hurts. It has nothing to do with what women themselves actually find attractive. Much like when women attack men by implying that they are poorly endowed. That works as an insult because penis size is something which matters a lot to men. Women themselves aren't typically that interested in the size of partner's dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 06:25 PM
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Don't you think men do this as well? Even to the same degree? Wow, it's almost like men and women are actually kind of similar. So women generally place more importance on character, even when they don't? There's nothing actually paradoxically about those statements. They simply exist on two different levels of generality. It just sounds like every consideration a woman makes [according to you] is on a higher tier than the considerations men make. I don't think so. Women in general are taught to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 06:19 PM
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We're talking about low partner counts being an attractive quality in women, yet this is not so for men Yes, this is the part where you confused cause with effect. You then try to change directions by insinuating they are not virgins by choice and that this must be linked to their low levels of attractiveness physically. Actually I didn't say anything about physical attractiveness. I referred to attractiveness generally. You took from that what you wanted to hear. Stay focused, the question is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 05:12 PM
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which is itself a generalization that doesn't have any basis in facts or logic. You have no idea what it's based on, because I haven't told you. But even if that were true, then the common existence of women who enter relationships with men for their money or status, women who enter relationships with men who are abusive or otherwise treat them poorly, These may have any number of explanations. It may be that women simply balance the importance of character against other important considerations…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 05:04 PM
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The insincere smileys suggest otherwise. Regardless, it's immaterial. We have nothing more to discuss, and you don't seem to be in the right frame of mind for a discussion in any case. Cheerio.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:52 PM
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Not really, you could simply express your points in a straightforward, detached manner, as I have been doing. It takes a little effort at first to focus on facts and logic rather than emotion, but I think you'll find it produces a higher quality of communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:47 PM
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It wasn't meant to be a rebuttal, it was an observation. You seem angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:40 PM
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So these sugar babies, escorts, and gold diggers are more interested in character? That's a false dichotomy. These women may comprise a small subset of women who consider character to be of secondary importance. Which must be why women are so adept at avoiding abusive people and very rarely get into abusive relationships [NOT VICTIM BLAMING]. The "assholes get girlfriends" trope must exist because women are so interested in character and not other things like looks, status, and wealth. This is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:38 PM
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Feminists in my experience are much less likely to use 'virgin' as an insult that other types of people. I suspect that you have decided that this must be true because it feels likely to you, not because it is actually more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:34 PM
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Go to his website and look, I'm sure he's written about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:33 PM
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You're ignoring the reality that 'nice guys' usually are not virgins by choice. That suggests that they are inherently undesirable, and cannot be compared to men who choose to wait, who may be more desirable because of the fact. Your entire point is based on the rather inevitable fact that attractive men tend to have more sex. You are concluding from this that having sex is what makes these men attractive, rather than considering that perhaps attractive men get more opportunities to have sex. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:32 PM
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Usually feminist men, in particular manboobz.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:22 PM
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Right, because women are generally more interested in character than are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:12 PM
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I hear MRAs using 'virgin' as an insult more often than any other group.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:11 PM
3

Yes it is. You're saying that if men with lower partner counts were considered generally attractive, then this particular subset of that group would also be in demand; without considering that this subset may have other attributes working against then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:05 PM
-1

Only rich men who can't get a real nice girl. Which admittedly is most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:01 PM
4

How does this not apply to men as well? It does. Source: am a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 03:53 PM
-2

That's a false dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 03:52 PM
7

I'm a woman, and I much prefer a man with a lower partner count. I also hear men using the word 'virgin' as an insult way more often than I hear it from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 03:51 PM
3

Yeah, this is about the standard of debate I expect from PPD. "DOES ANYBODY ELSE THINK MURDERERS ARE BAD?? CHECK MATE FEMINAZIS."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 07:59 PM
1

What's that got to do with anything?
/r/TheRedPill24/08/14 10:48 AM
-1

Nobody think you're the bad guys, dude. You're just the sad guys.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/14 07:03 PM
-1

Hahahahahaha you redpillers are hilarious. Yes, of course my wife can sleep with whoever sure wants. Why shouldn't she? She's a highly desirable woman with an insatiable appetite for all things carnal. Why should her sexual adventures be limited to only one man? She can sleep with anyone she finds attractive. As can all of my girlfriends. As can I. You guys love to talk about your sexual prowess, but it's hilariously obvious from your infantile jealousy that you're all painfully aware of how cra…
/r/TheRedPill23/08/14 06:51 PM
-1

Mmmmmm, lovely angry tears of jealousy and loneliness. Yum yum, feed me some more n_n
/r/TheRedPill23/08/14 04:19 PM
-9

Don't worry, my wife was a lot kinder about it than I am. She felt slightly bad for you and said hopefully you'll grow out of it. Nice to have such a kind, supportive woman by my side :)
/r/TheRedPill23/08/14 04:09 PM
-5

My wife and a couple other people I'm dating.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/14 03:49 PM
-2

Is that supposed to bother me? My wife and girlfriends can sleep with whoever they like. As long as they take precautions and keep themselves clean, it's none of my business.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/14 02:31 PM
-7

:) I have to go now. Keep posting updates on your life in trp. Your story is bringing joy to more people than you know.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/14 02:05 PM
-11

God, existence is so depressing. So much beautiful despair... Please, promise me you will never leave the path you're on. Never stop being as angry and unfilled as you are at this very moment. The thought of you still fighting this same grim battle for the next thirty, forty, fifty years is just indescribable. Your suffering is heavenly to me.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/14 01:30 PM
-11

You redpillers are hilarious. You're going to sabotage every decent relationship you ever have and spend your life needlessly miserable and alone, out of pure stupidity. It's like a beautiful train wreck happening in slow motion. I only wish I knew you in real life, so I could see the delicious misery unfold in front of my very eyes :D
/r/TheRedPill23/08/14 01:15 PM
-11

Haha yeah, redpill really improved your relationship bud.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/14 01:01 PM
1

Suck my dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 05:35 PM
2

lol, of course you post to foreveralone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/14 05:12 PM
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