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Anything but blaming yourself, yet again
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:50 PM
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Let's be real, 99% of the topics on this board is "100% men bad, 100% women bad". Sometimes people have good points, but the angle and energy they come into the topic with is, respectfully, trash. You can't come in here acting snarky yourself and expect no one to return the energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:02 PM
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If one party (you) just blames the man, and another party (them) just blames the woman - That's a fair 50/50 no?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:16 PM
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no, it’s not “somehow always a man” yall are just saying shit. you all repeating it doesn’t make it any more true or logical. So you’re saying no man would have a reason to hate ANY woman? and then ignorantly project that hate onto all other women? cause that’s exactly what you guys are doing. it’s stupid as fuck either way and i hope yall grow up. i’m not going to waste my time trying to convince you of the fact that checks notes “some women do crimes” cause if we can’t agree on that babyyy you…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:52 PM
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i mean, yeah, when you point to ALL men instead of the men actually doing the shit. it sounds just as goofy as hating ALL women. just stupid af
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:32 PM
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i think men can easily say that men are, at the moment, causing the majority of harm in the world. cool. but that doesn’t mean that women don’t cause a large amount of harm as well. this should be obvious. but ig we’re throwing away critical thought in favor of group power dynamics
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:04 PM
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100% agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:00 PM
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Ever see a man turn a woman down for sex? They usually don't take it well
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:19 PM
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>No, men who “can’t pull” and base their entire personality around being the bitter guy that “can’t pull” while blaming and insulting women for not being willing to be “pulled” by them are moral failures. The issue is, not pulling makes a lot of women think that they're not pulling BECAUSE of these perceived character flaws. Whole time he could be a great dude, just awkward. But they usually all get lumped under the same umbrella
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:16 PM
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>The other kind wouldn't. I understand what you're saying and what you want. I reallly don't think it works like this though. Dudes looking to start shit typically don't shrink away because a "protector man" is around. Never seen anything like this. Respectfully
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:50 AM
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Then they're going to make every one feel safe. Like men are not just going around afraid of other dudes unless he's giving weird aggressive vibes. The same exact ones that would weird women out
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:37 AM
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Uh, yeah, but the majority of people who really don't want children are taking precautions and measures to not. Come on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:35 AM
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If other men are feeling unsafe, pretty sure the women are gonna feel much more unsafe
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:20 AM
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Cool, what about all of the people not having kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:14 AM
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Most of my girl friends have no issue approaching men. Whenever we talk about it they say that the girls who don't usually are scared, and rationalize it by bringing up that they want a man who takes initiative. Or that it's not a woman's job. etc. Long story short, they don't take rejection very well, especially if they feel like the man they want should be happy to receive attention from them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:11 AM
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nah its really not. he never said that she had to do anything. he said i want this, if you’re on board, cool. if not, cool. people have certain wants during dating. some want to be wined and dined. some want help on their bills. some men and women want sex. not everyone’s as pragmatic, but that’s what they want. if the other person disagrees, they’re free to cut it off. it really shouldn’t matter at that point - you should be able to be okay with your wants not lining up his biggest crime was be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:49 PM
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I agree, but men and women both pick and choose when they wanna like this pedestal setup. When people are benefitting from mess like this, everything's fine and dandy. Can't take ts seriously when people want to keep the benefits of gender essentialism and think they're gonna have no downsides. Like no, letting men essentially baby you is not going to coincide with them respecting your autonomy more. The oath to that is working towards true equality
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:05 PM
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this is one of the weirdest posts i e seen on here and ive seen some shit. idk how to tell you this but you just hate men bro. don’t have sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:07 AM
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yall are doing too much. skill issue
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:24 PM
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not to put those ladies down or anything but are they in relationships? it seems like once that happens a lot of women and men throw their hands up in the face of certain responsibilities because “that’s the role of their man/woman” now
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:58 PM
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If a man has female friends, it proves many positive things about him respectfully disagree. i used to think so but then i grew up lol. and this is coming someone with a lot of women friends. this is assuming wayyyy too much, and there’s really no reason to. like, you’re even assuming these are “good” women. a know plenty of pos men who are surrounded by pos women group consensus is sooo far off from being infallible. critical thinking >>
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:51 AM
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I've tried to have legit good faith discussions but once you present your point and back it up a few times it seems like they just stop responding and goes on to post basically the same topic over and over and over and over If OP was a dude I feel like she'd be branded an insane incel and permabanned
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:53 PM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:24 PM
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I have a super honest question. what percentage of feminists today do you think are satanists, lucifereans, or generally insane people? you talking about people who have done insane things and are also feminists. the gag is, we can find insane people literally everywhere. man haters. woman haters. christian’s. satanists. no, i dont think the core of feminism is worship of the devil. like really?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:13 PM
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separating races of feminism isn’t splitting hairs, especially when half you guys on here jump to the conclusion that all feminism is about hating men. like i can’t believe this has to be said. feminism at its core has always been about equality - that’s what most feminists believe. you can use arguments like “all feminists hate men!!” when that’s literally a small SUBSECTION of feminism - radical feminism you asked - what is traditional feminism. you literally asked for a definition. what posit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:07 PM
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Unless you have a specific example, this just sounds like a segway into eugenics lite bullshit. Also where the fuck is the agency of the mother in this argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:45 PM
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Is there an info that says that this is a legitimate tenant of tradtional feminism, cause I'm that's not what im seeing edit: read that wrong, that's a fair point
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:06 PM
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https://www.humanrightscareers.com/issues/types-of-feminism-the-four-waves/ https://politicalreview.byu.edu/november-2023/feminism-vs-femininity-the-battle-of-womanhood (It's BYU, ignore the tone) Or you just asking for the literal definition? I hope you ain't one of those people on here that wanna argue semantics for ten replies cause I ain't doing that 😂 letting you know now
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:27 PM
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Weird way to ask your question. When has it said it was okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:24 PM
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but definitely a monolith if it’s something positive
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:15 PM
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Only radical feminism. different from traditional feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:14 PM
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Thank you for your thoughts. That’s usually in line with what i hear from my girl friends that have dated women. coming from a guy who doesn’t mind doing a bit extra for his girl, i grew up just thinking this was the norm. happy wife happy life type deal. but topics like this just lowkey irk me because we’re all human - and instead of being like “oh, yeah, i see that you go through that too. i guess it’s something we can all work on. that way we can all improve relationships” you get met with “n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:20 PM
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>If everyone smells like shit, check your shoe. If these guys weren't the problem, they wouldn't be complaining about little success they're having or how every woman they know is shit.. I mean like I said we agree. I just don't believe in attaching this quality to any certain group of people. No reason to > you can’t just say “women are more valuable Okay, cool. I was confused as to why men were being singled out for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:21 PM
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Yes, people PRETEND they don’t or ignore it. Do you not see that this is exactly what you’re doing? yall know 99.999% of the mess yall complain about here are just negative HUMAN actions? and people don’t have set “value” - that’s all up to the beholder. you can’t just say “women are more valuable so it makes more sense when they do it” - like cmon
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:21 PM
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i think my point is he comes across fine to some. first time i heard of this situation was when a lady made a video saying that she doesn’t see what the issue is. people want different things. at the end of the day it really doesn’t matter how either of us feel he came across. it’s all in the woman he sent the message to. she didn’t like it, cool. no, i’d don’t think there’s an issue with having casual sex or prioritizing sex while dating. plenty of people hookup without even dating. im not some…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:18 PM
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He wants sex AND a date. Date AND sex. People have dating requirements all the time. If they don't align, they can do their separate ways. That's not an issue in my book, but I guess we just see it differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:40 PM
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Why would I wanna jump to conclusions instead of approaching the situation like an adult, communicating, and not taking it personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:27 PM
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>A lot of men spend all their time evaluating women’s value while never considering their own. They want to be treated like the prize without offering enough to justify that treatment and they want women to overlook their flaws while insisting that women must constantly prove their value to them. THAT is what’s unfair. So just people being people What's the argument here? That men do this more?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:27 PM
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>and he's not interested in emotional connection Yall are adding shit to try and make his angle look worse. If you gotta do that, consider your arguement aint standing on the legs you think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:11 PM
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Drug for being socially ungraceful? Sounds insufferable as fuck, but yeah okay dude, whatever makes yall feel better
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:10 PM
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self-respect, yup
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:39 AM
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well i have. and i also don’t really need to prove anything to you either tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:28 PM
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I care enough to say they're dumbass opinions and comment, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:04 PM
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I mean shit, women say the same thing about all the shit we want. How bout we just don't listen to dumbass opinions regarding what we should or shouldn't want
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:31 PM
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yeah, no i didn’t. seems like you’re having a convo by yourself so i’ll leave ya to it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:32 PM
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pretty sure i said a whole lotta nothing about being unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:00 AM
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“Women lack the extreme narcissism and entitlement to take someone else's life” yeah more men have the will to kill - sure as hell has nothing to do with women lacking extreme narcissism or entitlement, the fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:39 AM
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in the us? “i’m liberal but my boyfriend voted trump” is so common it’s a trope by now, especially in the south
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:36 AM
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many women still prefer to be “submissive” and have “their husband lead”. whenever you ask what exactly either of those things mean they can never fully explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:24 AM
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it’s still a notable phenomenon that “liberal” men observe all the time. this isn’t just popping up out of nowhere
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:21 AM
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"The individual men who did take on the mantle of a feminist notion of male liberation did so only to find that few women respected this shift"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:16 AM
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the audacity of people saying what they want out of a dating relationship? would you have rather him implied it non-straightforwardly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:01 PM
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i think you’re misunderstanding the difference between guys giving attention and having intent. More male attention does equal more, or better, intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:48 PM
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Women’s EVERYTHING is nowhere near as much as men’s EVERYTHING and not one mention of violent crime in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:31 PM
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so, you moving the goalposts kind of backs my point. you know what you said was wild, right? you said Women’s everything is nowhere near as much as men’s everything. like a statement like that isn’t normal but it’s being normalized. so is it everything or is it just violent crime now, for the purpose of your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:12 PM
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i’m all for feminism but some of you guys have got to stop and think about your beliefs, they’re becoming unhinged
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:13 AM
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"Hey everybody! Look at this guy! He's trying to get a date!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:57 PM
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really feels like you guys are projecting your individual experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:56 PM
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cept no one said i was single and not getting laid. my girl does not agree with you guys. 😂😂 i follow the advice of, and listen to, the women i’m close to. whose opinions i value. who don’t have some weird vendetta against men and understand that women are just as infallible as men. who value direct communication and don’t jump as shadows. there are some ladies here that i’ve had wonderful conversations with, where we could identify issues and common ground. but most of yall here? yall are diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:35 PM
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some of you guys want to be handled as children. you are not. stop trying to make it seem like “all women” share your sentiment
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 01:20 PM
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Wrong, people who say men and women can't be friends are idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:34 PM
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He didn't threaten anything. He put it on the table. Yall are jumping at shadows becauase you're cowardly and probably love feeling like a victim.. maybe because it makes you feel powerful? That's just my guess. You seem to think that you not being pleased with something means that people (men in this case) need to take care to bend to your whim. Uh uh. Not how that works. If people's opinions don't align, then yes, as adults, that's when we shake hands and go opposite ways. But im not super sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:04 PM
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Prolly wouldn't date a woman who gets bent out of shape over something like this, so sure
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:01 PM
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he asked said he wanted sex and asked if their desires aligned. if not, he doesn’t want to date. like people do all the time in dating. not even close to a demand. just say he was cringe and be done with it. yall are dragging this shit
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:46 PM
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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8Gp9Qhr/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:27 PM
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he’s being transparent and honest. about wanting to hook up. if she’s not interested in him, why tf are they going on dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:24 PM
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yeah, laughing turned to accusations of coercion and manipulation real quick which one is it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:23 PM
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what’s the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:21 PM
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is that what he said or what you extrapolated
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:20 PM
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he didn’t demand shit, are yall unfamiliar with men expressing their desires or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:13 PM
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wanting to have sex with someone =\= seeing them as a sex dispenser
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:12 PM
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Autistic as fuck yeah, but I see that a lot of people here seem to equate autism or awkwardness with evil. This shit is insane
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:26 PM
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>Any woman who doesn’t have rose tinted glasses on would have gotten the ick and blocked him like the woman who posted the voice memo did. Why don't you guys just give your opinion instead trying to validate with the "any women would've" mess?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:23 PM
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Dude yall are weak as fuck. He wanted sex, so he propositioned. Clear as crystal. If their interests don't align, he's free to decline, and they go their separate ways. This has been how ADULTS communicate, not this childish plausible deniability thing some of you want
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:21 PM
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Yall need to touch grass. Yall are literally saying the same thing about each other You approach relationships with the idea that you're practically perfect, and it just happens to be all members of the opposite sex that's the issue. That is MENTAL
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:59 AM
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Opportunistic predators use power dynamics to influence weaker (younger usually correlates) people in order to get what they want. Unfortunately power inequality is present everywhere, at all times. Money and sex are at the top. Men hold more positions of power, hold more social power generally, and are generally stronger physically. So more of these predators are men. Although the power gap is shrinking, women predators usually go about it differently. More go unreported and skate that line of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:24 PM
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>Men naturally have an interest in most women women don’t naturally have an interest in most men where did any of this come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:45 AM
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not many, but that wasn’t your topic at all, right? also i saw that you went from “shy guys” to “weak shy guys” 😂😂 so lemme ask this which, out of the serial killers and the weak shy guys do you feel women are more attracted to? which is more likely to be fantasized about?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:54 AM
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i know the women are wonderful effect is a thing, but i feel like you guys wayyyy underestimate the number of “trashy” women. it’s sure as hell a lot bigger than the .1% you talked about😂😂 if the serial killer is more attractive, more women are gonna want him. same with men. some people are more attracted to mess. we keep trying to moralize attraction and end up in the same spot
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:22 AM
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They don't care if they're undesirable. Most men know they're undesirable, regardless of who they are. In this case, they're bartering their money for the company of younger, more attractive women. Cause they know these women are looking for money/status. Both sides are getting what they want while playing a game Also this can be applied to like 99% of shit on this sub but men and women are SO much more similar than they are different. Men may do the "pay for play" thing more often but that's be…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:51 PM
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It's supposed to be for equality. Some people just misunderstand
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:18 PM
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We're in a time where they're getting a lot mixed signals. That's the entire point. They're being told that socially they generally should act a certain way towards women - that leans unmasculine - and then seeing that the masculine side they suppressed is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:38 PM
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You're making a lot of assumptions and generalizing women. You are acting like women can't see a man and wanna smash. Most people are scared to approach. It's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:32 PM
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Sure, I think it's because men aren't really "valued" based on kindness when it comes to status and attraction. Our society doesn't value it the most. And that shows up in dating of course. It's just not important to most women when compared to physical attractiveness, money, charisma, confidence, etc. ESPECIALLY when those women are not kind themselves. But many people are still stuck in the "women are wonderful" cloud, which is actually dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:28 PM
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you gotta ask women youre pretty close with (family, very close friends) not randoms or online videos. they actually care about you as a person
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:19 PM
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I think I know exactly what you mean. I think that's great that you do that, you sound amazingly supportive. He may just be used to being valued / think he's being valued primarily for what he can do for others (learned from other sources).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:12 AM
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I've noticed many men give up on receiving "love" and settle for "needed" . It's not that they don't want it, they (I think, wrongly) believe that the unconditional love doesn't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:02 PM
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I just think it's weird when people try to push their personal preferences on people they're trying to date, or other people that are dating. Like don't try to guilt trip people into paying with "that's how it should be", etc , and don't try to tell other people that they're dating wrong by having standards that are different than yours, calling them "low standards". It's weird, like people are trying to push very hard to normalize what they personally want
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:59 PM
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big true
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 04:25 AM
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>The women that abide by women’s traditional role are also working full time. Those marriages end in dead bedrooms and divorce frequently. The vast majority are, yes, but some aren't. And contrary to popular belief many of those stay at home wife/mom relationships encounter the same problems with divorce and infidelity. >Men want all the traditional roles but the woman to pay half the bills too. It’s not working. And it shouldn’t be a surprise. Yes, one-sided traditional approaches are definitel…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:20 AM
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>I think the data is pretty clear that most women are unattracted to manosphere or right wing men. Many women voted right wing in the U.S's last presidential election. Against a female left wing candidate btw https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/33408.jpeg Many women still choose to abide by beneficial traditional gender roles Many women judge men for not being masculine enough, compared to the past (which is like, a big point of the manopshere) I personally don't care for the manos…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:25 PM
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Yeah, I think it does give a kind of a window into people's inner thoughts. BUT I think it's also misleading in multiple ways. Like I've seen people I know post complaints and hot takes that are actually in whole relationships in real life. There was this lady who built her platform on being anti-consumerism and saying that marriage was a trap to exploit woman - that got got engaged not too long ago. And started waffling when people called her out on it. I've seen men with platforms bash women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:33 PM
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Average is up to interpretation. Theres no real “scale” to quantify someone on. This isn’t pragmatism… it really only serves to try and put people down. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:41 PM
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Its very much “girls have cooties - no, boys have cooties” unfortunately. This post is a good example
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:24 AM
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same here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:22 AM
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You gotta speak for yourself on these man, this just isn’t reality for everyone. If you wanna go anecdote for anecdote, i have a good bit that tell another story. People just want different things across the board and at different times
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:20 AM
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Because it’s usually not used in a favorable context when it’s used for men. It comes off as patronizing. To most men. Same flavor as when guys talk about their girls like “yeah she takes care of me, does all the chores, and doesn”t ask for anything in return man i love that girl”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 10:56 PM
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shit, same
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 10:44 PM
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I don't remember sending you this
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 10:29 PM
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I mean shit a lot of the women in my area still do. Im always surprised when I come on here and some people offer that all women are super chaste and reserved. It reeeeaally depends on your area / circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 08:31 PM
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thats seems healthy as hell. im trying to get like you but its tough! i never wanted to be the jealous type so im trying to find balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 07:14 AM
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I agree that it's wrong. Totally bad vibes. But it's lowkey socially acceptable to dog on men that don't want to do certain sex acts. This is my favorite example cause I thought what he said was crazy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbyrIcrGQ3c It's the lack of total consistency that's always been weird I just feel like we can say, "Hey it's wrong to try and persuade or guilt trip people to do things they really want to do. It's understandable that you might be jealous, but this makes me deeply …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:00 AM
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Yes, jealousy is the issue of the person feeling jealous. And typically in relationships we care about our partner's feelings. There should be no less care given to men male partners than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:28 PM
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The takes I've gotten is that head is seen as " submissive"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:46 PM
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I would agree with it being pretty basic as well. but many people actually see head as uncomfortable or degrading. It all depends on perspective. We might be a little more on the liberal side, but there are plenty of adults that feel like it's completely alien. Shit, I have family and friends in Jamaica. Good luck getting a Jamaican man to give his woman some head
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:15 PM
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Yeah, that's my whole entire point. We can't say that it's empowering or understandable for women not to want to give their man head, while any man that doesn't want to give their woman head is weird or gay. Like it's so obviously hypocritical. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbyrIcrGQ3c Like tons of people (myself included) drug DJ Khaled for talking about how he doesn't want to give his wife head. But at the end of the day it's his choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:04 PM
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Head
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:48 PM
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Yeah we can give you the benefit of the doubt, but that probably ain't flying with most women. Good luck to the guy who mentions he's done stuff for his ex that he won't with his current girlfriend / wife
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:40 PM
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Not redpill or for manipulation at all, but do you feel men allowed to be jealous? Why is this such an alien topic when it comes to a man being jealous? And why every time is the worst possible example used? Physical pain? Trauma? You feel like this is the norm for this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:35 PM
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I’ve listened to a lot of men talk about these issues and think empathy and encouragement is very underrated. I feel like it’s less what people are saying and how they’re saying it. Less “do better men! That’s what men do!” and more “hey man I feel you, dating can be mad weird and confusing, but not finding a person doesn’t equate to there being something wrong with you. Try these things if you’re comfortable with them.” I think most troubled men would settle for not being ostracized and being c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:50 AM
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I agree I think using "sex" confuses people in these discussions. Because it makes people uncomfortable and it's hard to get past the gender tribalism. I usually see "people(men) are not owed sex". "You don't need it to live." What if we sub it for "validation"? No one's owed validation. No one needs it to live. But can we stop acting like we're robots and admit that rejection causes real damage to people's psyche? I really feel for people in their 20's plus that are struggling with dating only …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 12:33 AM
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Just a tad biased
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 10:04 PM
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If they're hot enough, all that other stuff comes second. For men and women. There are plenty of maladjusted men in around that get plenty of attention because they fit the general model of physical attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 09:59 PM
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You haven't seen the dms of an attractive dude im guessing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 09:53 PM
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>Because women don’t view men as bodies first in the same way many men view women. Respectfully
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 09:52 PM
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I mean some of us still care enough to not sleep with people we don't really fuck with - definitely the minority though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 01:36 AM
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I think personally it just says that character isn't really on people's radar when they're looking for hookups, or even relationships sometime. A lot of the time, attractiveness is going to trump all. I think most people would be okay with accepting that, but there honestly seems to be a lot of people who fight for the image of all women being pure honest souls. Which I think is why we're in this situation in the first place. If we can agree that both men and women make a lot of mistakes and can…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 12:52 AM
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I don't really agree with OP with putting the blame on women but this is take is equally off
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:54 PM
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A lot of young men don’t mind doing the work… they have been doing the work and getting nowhere. Or in a worse position than before. Not saying they’re entitled to anything through work but when legit dudes are looking for guidance and only have people saying they’re not doing enough, or people laughing at them, or redpillers / lookmaxers / whatever they’re bound to get discouraged
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:38 AM
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Hell yeah, they give the best advice
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:31 AM
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The royal you. Not you in particular. There were no insults to you in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:04 AM
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>A woman who cares more about character is not interested in a guy with that type of attitude. They typically want a man who is pleasant, considerate, and respectful as a default, not part of a transaction. Just about everyone wants this though right? But it comes off as weird whenever people take it upon themselves to tell the other gender how to act. This is basically what Kevin Samuels always said. But my thing is... you're telling people to mold their personality based on the wants of the op…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:09 AM
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Great answer!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 07:01 PM
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Besides the terminally online weirdos who talk about aborting male babies, the virtually no mothers are out here conspiring against their own sons for the sake of some “evil woman mind control” agenda. They might instill tenants of Patriarchy, like all parents, because they know it’ll give their kid a better chance to succeed but maliciously? There’s no way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:10 PM
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Yeah people don't reply like that when they don't give a shit. Try the bullshit with someone else babe
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:45 PM
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Do you converse with other people on a regular basis? Cause it's giving you don't. Touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:55 PM
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>Women are less interested in male validation than you seem to think. >We have loads of friends and other relationships that men don’t bother to foster on their own, which is why they are more lonely without women. Making positive generalizations still falls under "women are not a monolith"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 05:11 PM
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>That's bullshit. I am actually in a committed relationship but I mourn losing my single life. I will never break up with my fiance because I love him and our lives are too interconnected to break up but I admit I miss being a hoe. How stable are other aspects of your life? This could just be an example of wanting what you don't have at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 05:08 PM
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Everyone around him was telling him to stop messing with the types he messed with. But bros old and ex-nfl. He doesn't understand he’s not gonna just pull young women the way he used to. It’s probably a pride thing. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AjGrRzHSykg Instead of an equally yoked partner he was looking for (extremely) young women to have under his thumb. 100% a power thing, I have no doubt. Unc can’t let go of the glory days. With her, she probably traded her pride for the $$, and I feel li…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:33 PM
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Talked about it over a few months with some of my girl friends and we came to the conclusion that if the "attractive" factors outweigh the "bad" favtors initially, the girl will think she he'll change for her, or that she can change him. Then she gets too deep in, gets her self confidence broken down and made to be reliant on his approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 02:59 AM
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I'm with you on this one. People have always argued over this shit. The internet / social media is just the newest platform. The people in here commenting, liking debate tiktoks, and arguing in the comments of youtube videos are the ones that don't say anything in person unless it's to friends/relatives. I think part of people's issue in here is that they're so bent on "othering" themselves - in a good way or bad - that they never realize that they're just another normal ass person. Just neuroti…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 12:42 AM
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I don’t think it’s too hard to be kind to each other and keep in mind our own biases. But sometimes that seems too much for people. There shouldn’t be any “well cheating is different if a man is doing it” or “well sexual assault is different if a woman is doing it”, yet we see it all the time. It just comes off ignorant and insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:30 PM
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People do a ton of shit that doesn’t make sense, including lead people on. Not uncommon at all
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:34 PM
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Whether she likes you or not, if your preference is someone who moves fast then yeah on to the next
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:31 PM
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Not a safe space huh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:52 AM
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Ladies, I swear I'm not trying to talk shit. Unless like, you specifically do this. But why in the world is it so popular for some women to flex the power they have over their husband? Is it like dick measuring type shit between women? https://www.instagram.com/p/DWcUXIHD9Nr/?img_index=4 It's cringe as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:46 AM
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Maybe not dumbasses. Just unaware. I honestly don't think most people think beyond what they're comfortable with. So they end up in familiar situations, or a similar arrangement to the ones they know. Men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:38 AM
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Yes, we live in the world where society lies. Deal with it. That's not an excuse to not observe, and if you do observe it's not an excuse to now know the limitations of observation. Be smart. Did you maybe get the idea that I was looking to barter or reason with women’s attraction personally? Cause I’m not. It sounds like you just agreed with what I said but told me to deal with it? 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:19 PM
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Men believe that because that’s what people are told a lot of the time. Like: “Work hard and you’re guaranteed a great job with a great salary”. So no, women are not rewarding goodness on its own. That has never been enough by itself. Social ability is a necessary component. Saying things like this, no offense, is also part of the issue. By saying “that has never been enough” it kinda gives that “goodness” is always something that’s considered attraction wise. It just ain’t. Part of the reason p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:36 PM
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This is the exact thing a lot of the guys on here say about women. The result is a bunch of good-hearted people walking around with low self-esteem because they got treated like trash by people who treat EVERYONE like trash. There are trash men and women. But don't ruin your life or self image by being like them, we got enough of them as it is
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 10:45 PM
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>This is the core of the problem you have... You view having sex/a partner as a man as having a rightful place in society/being socially accepted. This is the entire weight behind the incel insult. And we both know the main use of the insult, by far, is women to men. Women support the belief that sexual attention from women = being accepted just as much, if not more, than men do. Is it because of patriarchy? I really think so. But that doesn't change the fact that we still perpetuate the bullshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 12:03 AM
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One thing I see a lot of guys on here speaking on is that society assigns you value. Maybe this is easier to understand as a minority, because you "learn" early that you intrinsically have less value, but not only is this system bullshit - you can assign your "value" to be whatever you want it to be. You don't HAVE to be or do anything you don't want to be or do. You don't have to treat others as if they're "above" you in value. Sure, the majority of people will subscribe to the system but part …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:52 PM
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Are a lot of you here more religious or conservative? A lot of the stuff you guys say in here doesn't track at all, especially this point. I can't name a single women I know in real life that would back that statement up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 01:44 AM
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Only if you determine if it’s okay or not by whether it’s hard or not. But most people don’t. And what if it’s insanely easy for the guy. Does that make it not okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:14 AM
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You're giving your personal opinion as if it's a fact though. You feel like it's "different" if you're a man but other people don't feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:47 AM
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That ain't true at all lmao. Men that fuck a lot of sluts don't respect them a lot of the time. They talk all kinds of shit about them - if she has a rep he might not even wanna be seen in public with her. Do i think that's the men's issue? Yes. But that's how it usually goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:42 AM
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>Because it gives other people pleasure. Sluts are good. Having lots of sex is good. This is true for men and women Some degree of hedonism is great for most of us, but iont think most people are gonna be impressed by it. Binge eating, gambling, heavy drinking, partying every weekend... is cool in moderation, but relationship-wise? Self control, temperance, good standards... that's the kinda shit you look for in long term relationships. Sluts get their praises sang, but at the same time... that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:39 AM
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>A man will have to make up a story for the woman because most women don't go out with men just for sex, since we don't have that much of a libido, and generally, sex is bad anyway. Men still pay for drinks and have to give women validation and attention for a woman to even consider sleeping with him. Female and male sexual desire isn't the same in most cases; women don't sexualize men's bodies on the street or in a video where they're dancing, but men do with women. You're kinda painting a very…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:23 AM
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>The messaging on what women should actually do in the context of dating is very mixed. It seems like no matter who a woman dates, men will find something to be mad about Yes the messaging on everything ia very mixed. Including on what men should actually do in the context of dating. That's why you shouldn't focus on other people's dating opinions lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:53 PM
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Do yall actually date people you like? If you did, you'd see how insane all of this sounds. Y'all begin the relationship with a stick behind your back
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:39 PM
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Brainrot
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:22 AM
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Integrity and morality seem low generally. Men aren't really rewarded or required to be "good people" by society as a whole. Stuff like status, posturing, general "masculinity" are usually high on women's lists and do a lot of heavy lifting for a lot of men. I feel like both men and women's standards are soooo misplaced
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:28 PM
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I think it's kind of weird that so many people here jump to the worst possible scenario when it comes to people who do porn. I know it's not likely that you guys know any sex workers that do porn, but the information - things like interviews and testimonies - are out there. There are sex workers that describe bad working conditions, and sex workers that describe good working conditions. To say all of them are trafficked or something is ignorant and is low-key insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:24 AM
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I don't think boiling stuff like this into these precise flowcharts really does any good towards arguing a point. Some people just choose to have sex on the first date and it works out. Maybe they've known each other for a while previously. Maybe they make each other feel safe and are properly prepared. Etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:05 AM
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Man tbh most people don't fit those standards period. Because not only do you have to find someone with those traits and values, but they have to want to provide that for you. And not only do you have to find someone with those, that's willing to provide for you, but you have to find someone who's going to CONTINUE to provide them for you. Now with people going around that may feel similar to OP, who can drop a relationship on a near whim - who's gonna feel safe with that? I honestly don't think…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:22 PM
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So when men do it you see it as lying + manipulation, when women do it it's being true to herself + following happiness. Men are responsible for women's feelings, but not the other way around. Is that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:12 PM
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I guess part of the issue is for some reason, people take shit like American Pie as a documentary on men's sexuality. It's not representative of the average man's sexuality. So you have both men and women looking at media or things like this and internalizing that "this is how men are" and that's really not the case. There seems to be a trend of women wanting to "otherize" the average man as borderline savage and that just ain't the case. It just reminds me of men doing the same to women... just…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:57 PM
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There are a ton of socially awkward women. I feel like they make up a large part of the group that doesn't want to be approached. Too much pressure
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:49 AM
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Our "culture" was never great. Both men and women (western) were ushered into roles, and not enough people had the means or bravery to defy gender roles. Many ended up miserable and/or in loveless marriages because they didn't know any better. I feel like people need to be able to learn and grow on their own to some degree. If you want a traditional marriage with tradition roles fine. That's between you and yours. But trying to push it on other people is crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:47 AM
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Putting money over something like a relationship is definitely gonna trigger alarm bells to most people. It's extremely pragmatic, kinda lacking soul. They'll probably gonna question your values. Not that I'm trying to tell you how to live or nothin.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:05 PM
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I mean replace sex with positive attention and many will understand. People keep talking about food/clothes in here. You don't need any positive attention to live. But are you going to enjoy going without it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:00 PM
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You can do whatever you want. But you’re communicating like you want to express your point without any pushback. On a thread you labeled as a debate. On a debate sub. Do you have reasoning to back up everything you posted? I already asked, before. I’ve had plenty of great conversations with people here. I’ve had my mind changed on some things and have come to common ground with some people. How many times have you done that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:43 PM
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You can’t type six paragraphs under that title and try to finesse a debate with one sentence of - “And no, women aren’t perfect either” Like let’s be real.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:48 AM
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I'm talking about your own thought process that leads you to believe that this is just a man thing -
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:02 AM
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Oh my goodness. This is exactly what I'm talking about. WHY would you think that? Can you explain your thought process?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:53 AM
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""Why can't you just choose someone who wouldn't insult you at all?" And the answer is, those men basically don't exist. They all do it." "There's also the constant issue of their expectations and entitlement. In my experience, the overwhelming majority of men act this way." 99% of the stuff on this sub applies to both genders. Like y'all say the same exact things about each other. Over and over again. Which is kinda ironic given the subject of your post
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:46 AM
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I guess, maybe in the short term sure. But we need the majority of men to be mentally healthy for a healthy society to exist. Not radicalized. Like dudes just thinking of having access to more women. Great. What about the rest of society, it's gonna be a literal hellhole. What about our women friends and family? Daughters? Wouldn't you want them to be engage with healthy men and not worry about dudes with a chip on their shoulder at best? This is how you end up in weird ass ethno-religious state…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:22 AM
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If it makes you feel better (idk how "scientific" this sounds) but sex is a "love language" to a lot of men. The same way many women value a man spending money on them, a lot of men value a woman having sex with them. That isn't to say women don't value sex, but I guess men do more on average? This doesn't mean they don't value the relationship or like each other as people. That's just what they've been conditioned to think is important in a relationship. Most of it boils down to insecurity I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:57 AM
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Depends on how young maybe, past 25 my girl friends say they get hounded to settle down and have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:24 AM
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The "unsafe" choice is usually seen as more valuable for most women. Like by definition. But another issue is the fact that most dudes, hungry for the validation of women - base the majority of their self worth off of appealing to women. Because both men and women respect a person who appeals to the other gender
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:45 PM
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This sub is honestly the only place i've seen this
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:07 AM
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I mean we listen to the wisdom of others / others older than us so we dont repeat their mistakes and have to learn the hard way. Or we don't. Younger or older, if you need life to teach you the same lesson over and over before you stop being hard-headed, thinking you're the exception, and get it - that's just a straight up character flaw. And it's okay. But it's also okay to acknowledge it and grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:58 AM
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Kinda just sounds like ChatGPT in hologram form, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 10:44 PM
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Sure, some, but I’d argue that that’s just a straight up men’s violence towards women problem. I’m sure the amount of incidents of partners/husbands attacking their women eclipse incel violence
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:17 PM
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In terms of dating? Honestly I think the course of action is up to the individual. You can dump a whole bunch of time in effort into personal development you’re interested in, which will help your life and may or may not improve dating stuff You can mold yourself to fit different dating standards- which will most likely work for a while, but if you value your individuality, you may be disappointed when you’ve found you kinda lost yourself / find you had to do that to find someone Or you can kind…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:11 PM
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Nah I agree to an extent. Maybe it'd be more accurate if I said that personal development isn't always correlated to improved relationship success
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:45 PM
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Not even close to red pill, but I think you're identifying a problem that covers... the vast majority of people. Not just red pill. Young, old, woman, man - I haven't seen anyone that hasn't had dating trouble of some sort. It's not a meritocracy. You could listen to all the advice in the world, improve yourself in every way and you still not end up with the result you want. So people are not going to feel better by you offering advice... to better serve other people. While they're feeling hurt.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:28 PM
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No one’s arguing that “people never get horny”. You’re acting like most women don’t have a period of time of time every month where they don’t get stupid horny. Yes, people resist animal urges all the time. We don’t all just let the switch flip every time we wanna fuck or fight. And those of us that do usually get dealt with one way or another. Like we don’t need to have Jordan Petersons version of the modern office space, where women aren’t allowed to wear lipstick because “it’ll distract the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:49 AM
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She clearly doesn't have anything close to a logical train of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:49 AM
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Not a damn thing. And the fact that people are trying to tell you what you do and don't deserve is insane. What kind of person would be mad about someone adding a net positive to a situation? A negative person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:32 PM
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>Also, they think actually being a good moral polite person is pussy beta male behavior, which tells you their definition of good/nice is performative and with an end goal in mind, not genuine. OP, 99% of your posts are about the integrity or kindness about men. What makes you think you're a good judge of character? How would you rate your own?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:28 PM
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We do that all the time. It's called self control lol. We're animals, but we've progressed quite a bit past whatever you guys are imagining
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:23 PM
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Predatory? You wanna act like a victim while being a lame ass bigot? Why would I understand someone who can't even explain themselves? FOH
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:00 AM
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The fuck does "the likes you mean"? And yeah, don't talk shit if you too soft and scared to expound on said shittalking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:53 AM
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Don't throw rocks and hide your hand, now. No one's stopping you from explaining yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:21 AM
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This is just the no true scotsman argument. People do and say dumb shit all the time. Their behavior doesn't follow a line of perfect, or even near perfect, logic
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:17 PM
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If someone freaks out on you for developing feelings that's wild. They're treating your feelings as an "inconvenience" to their optimal version of the relationship, and probably don't care about your feelings. A friend who cares for you would let you down gently and respectfully. Regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:23 PM
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Definitely, I see people trying to do the revised history thing, nah that shit was always lame
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:35 PM
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Part of the issue is this “I’m right, you’re wrong” elementary schooler ass mentally a lot of people have going on here. Like we’re tribes or something. I noticed that despite your title, we didn’t take care to address some of the weird stuff said by some of the women here.. Men, women can have good points Women, men can have good points And EVERYBODY can have bad takes. If you think you’re right all the time, and don’t care to listen to anyone with a different opinion, you got mess to address. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 12:48 PM
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Yes definitely. And I appreciate you sharing your view and typing this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 06:46 PM
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I mean I feel like I completely agree with you. I also consider myself feminist, and have held the same types of ideals since i was a little kid. We have similar perspectives on how we think people should be able to live their lives. It probably has a lot to do with environment. I was born and raised in the southern US. Gender roles are VERY affirmed here. As a young boy you could get picked at or be criticized for being in the kitchen when the women were cooking, or using an easy bake oven (mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:56 PM
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Yesss 100% I’ve said this same thing!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 04:18 PM
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I think many more men would be open to doing away with traditional gender roles if more women were more open to it, but I don’t think we’ve hit that point yet. We’ve just started and while I agree that it will happen eventually, most women don’t share your pov and it’s going to take a whiiiiilllle till most do
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 04:13 PM
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Approach when you want. As long as it's respectful, whether they choose to be kind about it or not is on them. I'd try looking at less as "approaching" and just talking. Less as "win or lose" and more as - either you make a connection with someone or don't. Don't rush it, you both deserve to be comfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:45 PM
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Nah I think far off the deep end is reacting mad defensively every time a man has an opinion of a women. But of course I ain’t telling you how to live and I ain’t trying to be mean. And I know there’s some context behind the reaction. Just an observation
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:42 PM
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Girl dads always shit on dudes. Just like a lot of boy moms. Noones good enough for their baby. Not the flex y’all think it is. I think the issue is the comparison to women. For some reason many women think that women as a whole are leagues beyond men. But ask people who date women - male or female - and they’ll say otherwise. It’s okay to have flaws. None of us are perfect. But there seems to be a need for many women to believe that women are on a whole nother level. So it boosts their own self…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:35 PM
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I think there are some pretty valid reasons to be annoyed with men but some of y’all have gone far off the deep end
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:29 PM
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Honestly in their defense I think it’s a bit more nuanced than lying most of the time. I think because of conflicting signals, people telling them that’s how they need to be attracted, a lot of women really BELIEVE that instant, straight up, physical attraction / lust is only a man thing. In reality they’re just repressed as fuck, just like a lot of men, but in a completely different way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:47 PM
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I've done it for women i've dated and had the same done for me, it's probably rare but realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 09:52 PM
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It's just semantics and mixed interpretations. You interpret to mean subservience, many people interpret it to mean super thirsty
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 08:31 PM
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I swear some people want to lower these bars just so they can compete. Good lord. So worried about what makes people happy in their relationships and can't get into one of their own
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 08:27 PM
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Would you like some recent examples of women going feral? Why are y'all fighting so hard against it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 08:23 PM
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It's not realistic at all. There are women lust over dudes the all the time. Like publicly. Maybe you don't, that's fair, but I was just talking about this in another thread. https://www.tiktok.com/@ramaitheoneandonly/video/7585979986205494550?_r=1&_t=ZP-92T4oLBSXnC https://www.tiktok.com/@sarahjessikadarker/video/7586732898150059295?_r=1&_t=ZP-92T54pl4yDO There's not a ton of substance necessary. If a man or woman's got it, they've got it. People are gonna look.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 08:16 PM
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I think both of those are reasonable, but I feel like people either don't date the people they really want - or once they get the people they really want they kinda drop in value in their eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 08:12 PM
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Y'all are so weirdly terrified of gay men its hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 09:15 PM
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I think they just have a different idea of what "muscular" means in terms of men. Like some men don't know what "no makeup" looks like. I've seen a lot of muscular physiques get pinned as "dad bods" by (usually) young women who's only real comparisons are Hollywood actors, like you mentioned. Fit and slim, big and muscular (plus tall with either) I feel like these are the body types that get the most positive attention
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 09:12 PM
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“Yes you do have a choice, stop acting like a helpless victim to your hormones” You gotta understand, this is “Men, suck it up and stop complaining” part 87. Who exactly blew up your heads for y’all to think that it’s your place to tell men they don’t have the right to “wallow”, complain, or vent? Y’all say all this while accepting when women vent, or “supporting women rights and wrongs” Do you listen to random men in the internet when they say you can’t do something?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:23 AM
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Yeah I think you expanded on this better than I could
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:43 AM
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For sure
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:48 AM
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"However the mere fact that a rape couldn’t be proven does not prove bad faith on the part of the accuser." I definitely understand what you're saying and appreciate your write up. This is a very hard subject for multiple reasons, but here's kind of a recent example of a mess like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqTLDc7ySEA The accuser, a young woman (kind of a known clout chaser - who brands herself as asexual) who runs in streamer circles said that she was sexually assaulted by a streame…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:38 AM
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It just depends on who the partner prefers. "Casual sex has always been the theatre of the party goers and fun havers. It was always for the vibey people who created serendipity for themselves by the nature of their prosocial buzzy lifestyle and interests. I’m stumped at how a man can claim to hate music, functions, gatherings, kickbacks, beer, wine, cocktails, people in general, and kinetic energy… and expect to magically be the “hook up” guy" Not to sound rude or anything, but there are plenty…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:14 AM
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I think it's really cool that a lot of women are able to find themselves more and are gaining more agency - but honestly views like this are cringe, and makes it seem like you're trying to milk some validation out of thin air. The fact that you're needlessly talking down to people exposes how weak your mindset is. You're moving just like men who flaunt power/fame/wealth/etc. Have respect for those who paved the way for you and move with gratitude. No one makes it through the world alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:10 PM
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To all the guys who feel some type of way about not having a girl in your life, remember that no girl is better than one like this - https://packaged-media.redd.it/tp32hlx63z7g1/pb/m2-res_720p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1766138400&s=de5b7288bcda4fc2a8381b41d36400f8acc9a75d
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:31 AM
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I think the point is the commenter can replace it with “I”. But saying “women” lends more validity to the statement because it sounds like a law instead of just an opinion. It’s on the commenter to use the right words
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:12 PM
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Anywhere if she likes you, nowhere if she doesn’t I say shoot your shot regardless and ignore what the idiots online say, unless it’s like.. a dark alley in the middle of the night Where would you like to be approached? Maybe start there
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:27 AM
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God forbid someone gives you the benefit of the doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:00 PM
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I’m gonna choose peace and wish you mental and emotional healing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:41 PM
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Most people have trouble dating one on one, and most people know dating someone with a child is a whole nother ballgame. Let’s not pretend a child isn’t a massive responsibility. But pretending most people have hate for single moms seems ignorant. Many people won’t care or will be closer to “no thank you”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:42 PM
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Can’t relate, and there’s a pretty big difference between doing favors and raising someone else’s kid. Single fathers also run into women who don’t want to be involved with a man who already has kids. If that’s their personal preference what’s the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:37 PM
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As someone that agrees with your view that men (and women) who lean to hard into gender essentialism / focusing everything into molding themselves into a representation of stereotypical traits of their gender - That’s just what they want to do. Thats how they want to live. If a guys top priority is being more sexually appealing to a large margin of women he knows how to do that. Be fit, feign total confidence, have game. We can think it’s juvenile all we want but it really doesn’t matter. We jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:34 PM
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I’ve had some good conversations with a few of the people here, and have heard good points that have changed my perspective from both “blue pill” and “red pill” posters. But honestly I don’t feel like this place is any different than other parts of the internet. You can see the same back and forths on places like YouTube and tiktok. Everyone is just getting real prisoner’s dilemma-y with each other and not really listening beyond words. Nothings gonna change my mind that we’re wayyyy more alike …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:20 PM
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"More women would get the ring that they want if they held back some of the value that they provide in the relationship in order to incentivize the man to take the next step." Yeah pretty sure most people aren't thinking like this. And the way you say it makes marriage seem like the ultimate goal rather than a healthy loving relationship. Do y'all even like the people you're aiming to marry, or are you too busy trying to gamify every interaction?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 05:49 PM
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I agree with tossing some of the worst attributes linked with peoples view of “masculinity” BUT most women love that shit. They just do. So you gotta be comfortable with that as well. And what women you’re around but around me women are quick to call you gay (yeah as an insult) for ANYTHING, including things like rejecting them or … cheating… Don’t get me started on drinking margaritas or not getting a parallel park on the first try 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:23 AM
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Right, you probably wanna steer clear if she's moving like that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 01:19 AM
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Is this your personal opinion? Cause why the fuck would someone's attractiveness or wealth give them purchase on having a bad attitude? lmfaoooooo unintentionally reads like some deep redpill shit
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 11:38 PM
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But just like men, there are plenty of emotionally immature women. Worse, plenty think they're emotionally mature but just aren't, plain and simple. There are plenty of women that feel ostracized in places like work or school because they've been targeted by a clique of women. or are surprised to find out that their best friends have been talking shit about them or sleeping with their man. There are plenty of women that are homophobic. Not only to gay men, but to straight men as well, using bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 11:11 PM
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I played ball while I was in college so we had to be in-shape in-shape. And the amount of attention some of us would get from younger women, older women (ESPECIALLY), and every type in between. Bear in mind at the time they don't know any of us from a can of paint and most of us were broke af. Some of them were GOING off of looks ALONE... https://www.tiktok.com/@mvrukh/video/7557922649779866935 BUT, and this is important, looks can only get you so far!! Those relationships/hookups that are based…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 09:40 PM
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But tons of women also want young, hot men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:33 PM
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^ This is one of those hyperbolic comments you should ignore
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:59 PM
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Now we’re talking
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:55 PM
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I think I hear what you’re saying, but at the end of the day you need the confidence to ignore this mess. These opinions are so dumb they’re probably barely putting any thought into them. Probably don’t even really believe half of them. And they’re trying to set rules for you? Are you kidding? They don’t get to tell you how you live your life. These are not perfect people. They probably go around doing dumb/creepy shit all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:52 PM
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You out here policing other peoples behavior like you a shining example of what a woman should be? Ain’t no positive reason to be calling people shit like “pick me” and “simp” - all it does is display your own insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:32 AM
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Plenty of women have, I think the issue is you're looking for accountability from "women's spaces" (groups) instead of individuals. You're gonna drive yourself crazy looking for that. And because of this dumbass ongoing gender war, every incident is a gotcha on one side and an accountability dodge on the other. Nobody wants to say "Yo, you're right, i see what you're saying"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:29 PM
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Yeah I’ve seen plenty of women claim they’re progressive and then when it comes to dating - “I’m more traditional when it comes to that. A man should do x, y, and such and such.” But be mad when a man asks her to do something. And I’ve seen men claim traditional and then when it comes to dating- “well women make money now, I shouldn’t have to pay for x,y, do this for her, treat her this way.” The labels are usually not very accurate when looking at people’s beliefs. It seems like people use them…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:54 PM
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Reading hundreds of posts where guys are talking about that lowkey suggests that you're seeking out those kinds of posts from men. Do you frequent incel forums or some shit? What kind of posts do you expect to see there? And how exactly are these men bothering you? Is it different from anyone else venting or posting about their misfortune online?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:28 PM
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This is one of the outcomes of patriarchy - We should all be aware of both the benefits and pitfalls that come from our position in the system, and why they've come about, because for some reason it seems like whenever this topic comes up people forget to factor in cause and effect. There are some people who use this phenomenom to their advantage, and abuse people while getting away with it or pushing blame somewhere else, but I think in order not to dehumanize each other we should keep in mind …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:25 AM
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Never the girls you know maybe Idk why y’all try to speak for all women like it’s gonna affect your reputation or something. It’s okay to have different personalities and experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:28 PM
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So now they’re just doing it for the love of the game or…?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 01:50 PM
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You’re thinking about benefits and cost analysis and shit, while sometimes people just wanna fuck lmao Guys and girls sometimes have sex with people that they’re not super attracted to. But they’re attracted enough to have sex with them at the time. That’s it that’s all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 01:46 PM
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I’m as left as can be, surrounded by left leaning woman, lots of feminists by name - and one thing a lot of us noticed is that most of that goes out the window when it comes to dating/relationships. Lots of feminist women go for dudes they see as more traditional. bell hooks kind of mentions this in one of her books. We’re still in a transitional period in terms of attraction. And I don’t ever know if feminist type dudes will be in style with the majority of women. When I spoke to some friends a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 02:30 PM
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I think if that was the case you’d have no women saying they left a guy cause he was soft or emotional, or saying they were turned off by him sharing insecurities ,or that there’s just something about a toxic dude that gets them off. I feel if you’re speaking from your experience and maybe your friends but saying that’s all you see… what kind of environment are you in? And do these women’s dating choices reflect what they say?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 09:48 PM
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I agree that Andrew Tate doesn't represent all men - but he does represent a large portion of them. I think it's fair to say that these people do exist - not to just shit on people, but to be aware that online social media does influence real life. There are plenty of common people that believe these things. And that affects other people that see them. And so on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfQDhqUbvLY
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 06:18 PM
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Other than you not exactly defining everything you want in an "attractive" partner I don't think that list you made is that bad. But realistically, people have their list, and then they have the bunch of other things that come up when they realize they want it. Also, there are some people who base what they want off of what they see on social media. If you're someone who goes "my standards have been raised" every time they see something fantastical on social media, your standards MAY be unreacha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 06:12 PM
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Then I shouldn’t even have to say this. You should know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:05 PM
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Do women rape and abuse? Do you think women raping and abusing men is taken as seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 08:57 PM
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Half the time y’all don’t even take internet comments and videos as proof of anything, and preach about women not being a monolith, yet you wanna use a couple weird ass comments by a small number of the dudes here as proof of something? Gimme a break dude
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 08:44 PM
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LMFAO some of us aren’t even white - when you guys go on and on about patriarchy remember some of you benefitted more from it than us brown men. Those systems in place are also designed to keep us down, top to bottom. And also for my white brothers - poor white men aren’t exactly eating off of patriarchy either. It’s designed for a VERY small group of men to benefit the most at the cost of everyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 08:41 PM
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Best case scenario - it should be exactly what you’re saying, but it isn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 08:36 PM
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The importance of a good, healthy personality should supersede anything related to dating people tho. If some women/men don’t like you - and you have a legit amazing, beautiful personality and are happy, who cares. There will always be people who don’t like you. Try to surround yourself more with people who like you. Hard? Yes. But that’s the only way
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:33 AM
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Luckily there are plenty of well-adapted women who want the best for themselves and their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 02:19 PM
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saying that she does him a favor because initially she wasn't attracted to him, You’re saying she’s making a major life decision - partnering with a man she lowkey doesn’t even like - as a favor to him? Does she not value herself at all? Why can’t she enter a relationship with someone she actually likes? And how does a person wanting a relationship automatically make them desperate? Crazy how such a terrible person can see themselves as god’s gift to the world
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 02:17 PM
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The point of the comment was “she’s doing him a favor”. That’s what I responded to. You’re shifting the goalposts. Needlessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:58 PM
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She’s doing him a favor by letting him take care of her?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:44 PM
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I feel like this is fine if people were able to stay aware that this is a fantasy for entertainment purposes and keep it relatively separate from their real life. But MANY people, men and women, see fantasy, look at their partner, and go - “Hey, why can’t you do that?” Or “I need to leave and find someone that can do that”. I think that’s the issue - some people can’t separate fantasy from reality and push that problem onto their partners https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8Ao3uKQ/ This video kind of to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:52 PM
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Kinda slick how y’all started reducing being treated well to “princess treatment” to argue that men don’t deserve to be treated well 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:46 PM
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As someone who thinks he did it on purpose - Your lack of nuance when it comes to anything positive related to men is notable… I’ve never seen you take men’s side on any issue. Now I think he’s most likely a creep and she’s lowkey a weirdo for the videos she posted. I also noticed you didn’t call out the scores of women who were against her. You specified men over and over again. Stop trying to push a narrative like this is a straight up gender war thing. It seems like you pride yourself on bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:22 AM
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Yeah, ask bi girls how they feel about women’s emotional intelligence lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 11:55 AM
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I agree with your example, but I feel like there's more going on on the guy side. Speaking in general for this one. Like you said, pretty privilege obviously isn't just for women. But I still think we're underestimating how much of people's actual perception of other people's behaviors tends to correlate with how attractive they find the other person. Attractive men can be abusive, rude, etc and still get away with murder vs someone who's just straight up unattractive. These are behaviors that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 03:11 PM
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"I think you should date men." Fake as fuck. It's aight tho
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 08:57 PM
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Accusing someone of being gay because they display traits you see as negative is stupid. Especially when the traits involve a heterosexual hookup. This is the same shit as a dude cheating on a woman and people coming to the conclusion that he's gay. It just means they're not a great person. Not respectful maybe. The issue is between heterosexual people. Leave gay people tf out of it. This new age "ohhh nooo im not homophobic, i wasn't actually using gay as an insult" is weak. At least stand on y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 05:27 PM
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Boredom. She's used to her husband. No "tingles", no "excitement". Women have sex with men/husabnds who treat them poorly, don't have a job, don't do chores, cheat on them, don't love them, etc. all the time. Because they're not bored of them. Sexuality doesn't follow morality. Same reason someone can be head over heels for someone that does nothing for them, and disgusted by someone who does everything for them. There are people saying it's because he wronged his wife in some way are using mora…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 05:25 PM
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This is such an ignorant, immature fallback. Homophobia is lame as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 05:13 PM
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As a dude with a good little number of girl friends, they are. I don’t mean to sound rude, but you think they’re just not going to do things because it might sound offensive? Cause I see it all the time. And honestly I wouldn’t even count these phrases as offensive. I’m not saying your anecdote is wrong, but I think a lot of people on this sub live in a very different environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 11:33 AM
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It’s definitely everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:34 AM
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Do y’all think most women don’t have dumb or shallow thoughts or something? Truly? Everytime someone brings up something weird you guys straight up deny or deflect. It’s so weird because Reddit is social media and so much of what guys say on here is taken as evidence of men being terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:25 AM
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Seems like there are a lot of men that want to strip women’s right to vote and a lot of women that want to give up the right to vote. They can all go into the bin. Don’t gotta be a man to be a misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:09 AM
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Most of us don’t think that. We say that and some women feel the need to try and speak for all women and tell us “women’s sexuality is different from men’s. We’re not very attracted to looks.” Like we know, we’re all human
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 11:50 AM
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That said, if you’re married and you guys acquire assets and money TOGETHER, then it isn’t HIS MONEY anymore. It’s SHARED ASSETS AND MONEY Yet in a marriage, you consider shared assets and money earned while together to be “HIS MONEY”. I think you completely misunderstood what I was saying but go off sis. I’m not gonna have a good convo with someone clearly in their feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:55 PM
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What are you talking about? Why would “dating down” have anything to do with virtue? Men aren’t trying to lift you into a higher socioeconomic bracket when they’re marrying you - marriage is a sign of devotion. The money aspect is literally put to the side. Men know you can divorce him and take all his money and yet he hopes you don’t. No one goes into a relationship looking to get fucked over. Men are “dating down” (stupid term anyway) because more women make less/want to be homemakers more. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 09:20 AM
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I agree to an extent, but social media is a reflection of reality, and a pretty good window into what people really think. People may not always live the lives they portray, but those feelings and ideas don’t magically disappear when they leave the internet space. People usually feel more comfortable sharing their true thoughts in a semi anonymous platform than in person, where they can be judged or face social repercussions. Take here for example. Not to mention, agendas like the new age trad m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 09:08 AM
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Heard
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 09:17 PM
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Why do some women get mad and offended when a guy says wants he wants a pretty, mentally stable girl that ain’t for the streets? Same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 10:59 AM
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I think you guys are probably more concerned with showing off your partner than we are. If she's pretty and with us cool, what's the point of us showing her off in public? That's more stressful than anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 05:09 PM
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Actually true, and at this point why are we even in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 10:20 AM
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She is aesthetically pleasing and she's an eye-candy, so you're proud to have her on your arm I think you guys may overrate how important this is to most men. Unless he’s a bum he’s probably not going to be too concerned about being seen in public with good looking women Also no, I think it’d be odd to date someone who finds part of you repulsive. A dude that’s repulsed by a vagina would probably just get called gay and told to go to therapy. Respectfully
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 10:08 AM
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Seems like we all pretty much have the same problems. Vast majority of the issues men deal with, women have to deal with from men as well. Other than some outliers like “a man should always pay for everything” or “women are so much more emotionally intelligent than men, yet men should carry the emotional baggage in a relationship” The problem is whenever we bring these issues up, a lot of woman wanna run defense on the entire gender, like - “Women would never do that” “You’re lying” “She did you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 12:20 PM
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Issue is you’re using logic to try and understand their emotions lol. I agree with you, but that’s not how they’re thinking. They’re thinking “I can get a dude whenever I want, I’m desirable” bonus points if the dude is high status
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:13 PM
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Google is free, books are cheap
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:42 PM
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Unless she’s avoidant. Then that’s exactly what she does. Peoples words and actions are mismatched all the time. Peoples feelings in terms of relationships are rarely simple
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 11:53 AM
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Women use sex for ego boosts and validation too. In some cases, way more than men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 12:31 AM
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Yeah pretty much, they don’t feel they have to do anything really, aside from appearance and showing up in public spaces. They’re not doing all this self improvement stuff guys do when they’re trying to attract more women. You have girls on here telling guys to jump through all these hoops just to be able to date a woman - guys, you don’t have to do shit. Because when you show up in a relationship at your best, and they come as they are, you’ll realize how much time and effort you wasted trying …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:42 PM
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Close girl friends, family, or bi girls only for dating advice!!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:49 PM
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How often y’all see women asking men how to attract a man? Why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 01:32 AM
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I think everyone agrees it’s underhanded by definition. But if you think it’s unfair for men to do this, you gotta say the same for women. Also, having a rainy day account? Same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:02 PM
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Also we have whole systems within us trying to get us to feel that emotional attachment even when we’re just hooking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 03:43 PM
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I think I understand your approach but I think this new pragmatic approach to dating is going to land us in an even worse situation as before. I think you’re probably someone who this works for because of your overall idea of what a relationship is, but I don’t think it’s exactly in line with most people. We underestimate our biology sometimes when we talk - we have specific mechanisms working within us in order to carry out certain tasks, like mating. Having sex ain’t just wham bam. We have shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 03:41 PM
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The fact that this is even a dating talking point in the first place is horrific. Like why are we saying shit like this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 01:56 PM
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>a good parent will accept that maybe their kid isn't cut out for a romantic life. And be fine with that. Dawg no parent is going to have that thought process. And yes they are selfish expectations. Universal selfish asks by parents. Doesn't change the fact that they're going to have them. This is in line with the OP's topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 01:09 AM
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Parents are usually worried about their children's dating lives. It's not about "sex" "Why can't you find a nice girl/guy and settle down?" "When are you having grandkids?" "I just want you to be happy" Ain't new. A parent's worry doesn't end at their children not being homeless or psycho.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 12:52 AM
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Not saying you’re wrong, but plenty of women get cheated on by straight men and still date straight men. There’s something else there, like being cheated by a man with another man is an even bigger blow to the woman’s self confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:25 PM
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“Learning to wear a mask (that word already embedded in the term “masculinity”) is the first lesson in patriarchal masculinity that a boy learns. He learns that his core feelings cannot be expressed if they do not conform to the acceptable behaviors sexism defines as male. Asked to give up the true self in order to realize the patriarchal ideal, boys learn self-betrayal early and are rewarded for these acts of soul murder.” “We need to highlight the role women play in perpetuating and sustaining…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 02:59 PM
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Even in this sub a lot of the time men try to express their problems or concerns it’s met with “Ohh wahhh, you gonna cry? Stop bitching”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 02:21 PM
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Yeah it’s just dumb new age homophobia aimed at a typical guys weak spot. Straight men are valued and judged based on things like that, so a woman that’s looking to hurt a man will go for fake gay rumors. And if you call them out for the weird shit they can throw up their hands like they didn’t mean it as an insult
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 07:44 PM
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Standards don’t have to be physical or monetary, they also include how he treats you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:59 PM
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Holy deflection, not even a good one
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 12:15 PM
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No standards??
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 12:14 PM
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I feel like this is mostly an internet rhetoric kind of thing. Notably this sub and those spaces of tiktok. Some people just like to bully others, and the only thing they like more than bullying is bullying while feeling entitled to do it. Incels are just an easy target right now. The thing is, I'm pretty sure most male incels don't even hate women. Some for sure, but I think that's a very loud very small minority. They're just young, lonely and frustrated, just like there are young, lonely and …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 09:19 PM
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Man this is insightful as hell. Thanks for writing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 01:57 PM
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Annoying in their insecurities? Like every other human being on the planet?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 12:44 AM
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Why do you guys use the term ick like some kind of moral weapon? It's as silly as dudes announcing if they're turned on or not by women's behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 12:33 AM
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You think boy's dad's don't warn them about women? You think boys mom's don't warn them about women? (Most) parents care about their children. They don't care about the stupid gender war shit. Also, some of your fathers are the exact type of dudes they warn you about. Over there like "ohhh I could never have a daughter" cause they did hella women dirty in the past. It's always the worst guys talking the most shit about how all men are secretly evil or something. See: Derick Jaxon
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 09:52 PM
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Try not moralizing it. You'll live.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 10:08 PM
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Welcome to our world
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 09:07 PM
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You need to get to the point you're not willing to change yourself based on a woman's whims. ESPECIALLY purposely hamstringing your own character just so they'll like you or whatever. If you wanna lean into that persona, sure go for it. Plenty of redpill dudes do and it works to an extent. But is that really what you want? Unless this is just venting
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 01:37 AM
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You know how many times we see "nice guy" complaints on this sub? Ya'll will be aight
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 01:32 AM
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I think more women are feeling that they don't have to give the same old . They are a bit more free to voice their real opinions and wants with less fear of being ostracized. I've seen some of my homies that are girls give one type of answer in public and give the opposite in private. This isn't just unique to opinions about attractive men. And in terms of dating, women are put into boxes based on what they say, and that can result in (unfairly) unfortunate situations socially. I think it's grea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 09:28 PM
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Yeah that just sounds like an insecure person, sure as hell ain't unique to men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 10:24 PM
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If you’re really locked in with the woman she’ll straight up tell you things like “giver her attention but not too much attention”, “don’t do much for her”, “don’t fk with her she’s for everybody” - I think women give great advice if you’re a close friend or family cause they legit care about you more than they do the other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:57 PM
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We're in the middle of a big culture shift. Men are becoming more open to adopting traits that are considered traditionally feminine. Vice versa for women. And while a lot of of us see this as a good thing, it's kinda obvious that not everyone is going to be able to rapidly adapt. Women are not all gonna wake up and suddenly feel comfortable with men doing things like being househusbands, expressing moderate emotions or insecurities. Some women think they're an exception until they see their hus…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:20 AM
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Absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 07:11 PM
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I’m guessing you probably don’t live in a major city No shade, I just think that exposure - both through social media and the crowd they hang with - kinda cultivates the mindset op is talking about. Some ladies use the men approaching them and the “quality” of the dates they go on as barometers for their self worth. Because they have nothing else to go off
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 01:19 PM
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Being a doormat wife also works. This is what normal woman have been doing for forever. 🙄 See how dumb that sounds
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:59 PM
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Calling me emotional and desperate isn’t gonna help you deflect the argument lol. Let’s keep it cute And please, show me where I’m trying to “shame” you with a personal attack. What in those three sentences made you fell “attacked”? I don’t have to make a compelling argument for anything. I’m not trying to speak for all men or women. People should be free to define the value they receive from their relationship themselves. Everyone, men and women, are more free and independent when they’re singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:05 PM
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Staying single is best for you maybe. Why are you trying to speak for all women? You’re projecting hard
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:37 PM
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Your obsession with height needs to be studied. Also there are plenty of women who care about height that definitely don’t want kids - and out of those, not all of them are thinking of having sons. And out of those, even fewer that would even think about worrying about their sons height.No moms are going around disappointed their son is short. Wtf Why are trying to desperately rationalize shallow preferences. It’s okay. You can like tall men and not feel the need to moralize it. You are not perf…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:28 PM
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Says who?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:08 PM
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Tons. How many women do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 04:30 PM
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Facts, honestly same with most things here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:45 PM
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Do you think telling a woman she may be being a hypocrite, or wrong, is the same as being misogynistic? Cause that’s all it looks like honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:44 PM
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We're comparing our anecdotal evidence. You gave yours, i'm giving mine. I'm not saying you haven't seen what you've seen. I respect it. But that's literally why I said "Maybe not you and yours". I've seen way more women pop off, or get into fights. From high school up. Where I'm from. But it's usually looked at as less serious because when the guys do get into it can get real lethal real quick. The people panic a bit less, the cops are called less, it doesn't register as much with people. The w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:31 PM
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You can think it's unfortunate that he's been borderline bullied, probably his whole life, by his dad. And think he got embarrassed and humiliated publicly in front of thousands of viewers due to a mistake. He probably lives in fight or flight mode. It probably triggered him and made him snap. But you can feel bad for him and think he went completely overboard. If you are to the point where you black out when someone embarrasses you, to the point where you wanna beat them so badly you borderline…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:05 PM
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Plenty of women lash out, many times violently when they feel helpless. Put on a mask of annoyance and rage after a lifetime of being forced to have thick skin. Maybe not you and yours, but it's pretty common from where I'm from.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:02 PM
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Saying men don’t compromise has to be y’all trying to save your ego lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:42 PM
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Asshole women like asshole men, sure - I think the rub is an increasing number of people are blind to the fact that they're assholes. They just think they're surrounded by assholes, all their friends are assholes, family assholes, and of course everyone they date are the biggest assholes. The kind women I meet aren't into assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 10:13 PM
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Many women and men are attracted to dysfunction and are unaware. You guys are arguing this point in defense of all women but there are plenty of people that straight up make bad dating choices again and again and again. No women do not always make good choices. They are human. It’s fine to admit. It doesn’t mean all women are evil or something. But y’all argue down people on dumb, obvious points for the sake of defending women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:24 PM
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She has to be trolling. Or completely insane to the point where she’s out of touch with reality
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:01 PM
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Alright I just wanted to know if you were good faith or not but this definitely answers it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 04:59 PM
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That’s fair
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 01:54 PM
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Is Elliot Rodgers the “usual unattractive good man” ? 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 01:53 PM
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You guys keep trying to moralize or rationalize women’s sexuality when no one’s asking for you to. It’s weird, it’s okay. So is men’s. But i’ve talked to multiple women who’ve said they rarely, if ever actually sleep with someone they actually like. There’s men they regret sleeping with. Men they only slept with because he was around. Men they only slept with because drugs and alcohol were in the equation. End of the day neither men or women know what they’re doing. There’s no rhyme or reason, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 01:51 PM
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Y’all are just making up people based on.. nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 01:18 PM
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No I don't think they're severely underestimated. Not even comparable really. But I know that they do happen and should be taken seriously. But that's another issue
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 03:26 AM
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Why seek everyone else's approval in terms of your relationship? You're never gonna get that. If you don't wanna get a ring don't get a ring. Half the people here probably didn't even see that post.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 02:46 AM
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I wouldn't put money on it being the the majority but I also wouldn't be surprised. Many of the women that I know have experienced some kind of sexual abuse. And that's only counting the ones that have shared with me. Many don't share it with anyone, or even have anyone they can trust to share it with. Many don't report to the police because they get no justice and they end up even more troubled. Also, EVERY single women i've talked to about this topic knows multiple women who have gone through …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 01:24 AM
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Nothings being weaponized and this is a serious issue to the vast majority of people. Apart from an EXTREMELY small fringe group of people pushing the "all men are rapists" angle this is not a thing. At all. And to this day the issue has not been properly solved by law enforcement and the courts, to where victims are helped properly and given justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 01:02 AM
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So you want it, and you feel like everybody should adhere to your standards. Why do so many of y'all do this? Is it because you want bad deals like this to be normalized so you have a better chance of getting what you want? Cause why try and push this on other people when the only people who needs to know this info is you and your unfortunate partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 12:48 AM
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??? 14 to 20 percent is a fukton and most definitely an undercut. Not counting all other forms of sexual abuse and harassment. If you have no empathy just say that, how you gonna blame a women for that happening to them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 12:45 AM
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Im not ignoring anything, I think it's insane to assume that women don't care about connection when you're literally dating someone. People weigh things differently so everything might not be of the same importance to everyone but to think this is... wild
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 09:36 PM
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>If one dinner is this much of a concern for a guy he shouldn’t be out dating he should be out earning. If a dudes this concerned about the women he’s getting to say yes dude shouldn’t be out dating he should be working on finding better people in his life If a dude is this afraid that all he will be is a wallet to a girl then he shouldn’t be out dating. He should be working on becoming something more than just a walking ATM I got nothing against spilt checks on dates, but if it’s this much of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:59 PM
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Well there are plenty of women that don't mind helping out with paying. People are looking for better options. Just like there are women in here that don't want a parasitic man forcing them to clean the whole house and pay all the bills alone. No one wants that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:42 PM
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Look at his history, how he treats people around him, how he treats his living space, what he thinks about traditional gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:38 PM
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That's great. Just like guys who threaten to leave a girl who won't have sex with him on the first date. The entitled people will always move on to some insecure person who'll give them what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:37 PM
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My viewpoint is that it is ever changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 02:37 AM
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It matters because it’s not concrete as you implied. Based on the environment, timing, and the status of the person it’s straight up not true. And us keeping the idea alive that guys would fuck anyone is harmful in many ways, including nudging guys to believe that they need to wanna fuck everyone People here point out that many of these guys wishing for someone don’t just want sex - they want a connection that includes mutual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 01:43 AM
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Women don't care about friendship and connection. When they say that they're just virtue signalling. Come on now. This makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 01:42 AM
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Your personal view of friendship and boundaries regarding it doesn’t have anything to do with theirs. All you did was tell us what you personally do. They’re not trying to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 01:39 AM
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Trust, y’all don’t seem much better
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 01:35 AM
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Many women aren’t that way because of more/perceived sexual options. That’s where the standards come from - this is environmental, not internal. If you changed the environment and options, those standards sure as hell wouldn’t stay the same
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 01:30 AM
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A lot of people find “darker” traits sexier. Probably because of conditioning growing up. It’s for girls and guys though - only reason girls can get away with it more is cause patriarchy is so ingrained in women’s heads that dominance flips a switch
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 01:24 AM
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all women are beautiful, sexy and exciting. Huh? I mean I guess if you have very low standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:35 PM
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Anthony Edwards never hid who he was. Dudes a player and on track to be the highest paid NBA superstar. She knew what was going on. He knew what was going on. Anyone with a brain knew what was going on. But this is the reason they give literal seminars about ts to us in college. You would think by the thousandth time an opportunist baby traps an athlete some of you would realize this is an MO. She knows what she’s doing. She doesn’t care that the baby will likely grow up without a father as long…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:30 PM
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That’s not real feminism tbf
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:33 PM
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I think we can under that the issue stems from how women are commonly treated - but unfortunately the idea doesn’t really make sense in context. Of course romantic prospects are going to want to have sex with you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:59 PM
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A lot of women are blissfully unaware, sure. They want everything. But plenty of women are more down to earth and understand that life ain’t always a fairy tale and understand (and act like) guys are human as well. And sure it goes for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:52 PM
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And you're definitely entitled to your opinion. But there's loads of shit people do that's pathetic and normal
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 07:20 PM
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Yeah I'm calling bullshit on that one. And people coming on here to vent doesn't mean they're any less human. Men venting and wanting people to empathize does not make them any less anything. But we can agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:52 PM
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The guys here are normal. It's kind of hard to believe that you're arguing in good faith when you, at base, don't believe that they are. Having struggles or mental health issues does not mean you are not "normal". You, me, the others here are not perfect. But perfect is not "normal".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:27 PM
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It ain’t that deep. I’ve had women say they just wanted dick from a dude. Doesn’t necessarily mean they hated them or saw them as subhuman or whatever. They just had urges and wanted to do what they wanted to do. Noncommittal sex isn’t… what you think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:55 PM
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10-13, sometimes younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 09:19 PM
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Most guys that get preyed on are young boys when they get targeted by older women. They're not going to the police for a variety of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 08:51 PM
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People ain’t just gonna be cool with being treated differently based on y’all’s dumbass social ladder system. Is it really so hard to treat people fairly? You gotta cope with ideas like this? Insane
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:19 PM
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Sounds like the calls coming from inside the house on this one
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:08 PM
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Man or woman, no one likes a cheater fr. Sign of no integrity. You're in a relationship, move like it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 03:05 PM
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Sounds like you’re saying “just pick better”, and these women are your version of your “nice guys” - women who think they’re better picks but aren’t.. because I’m the end they aren’t much different from the other women at all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 01:56 PM
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I said what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:15 PM
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Who tf said I was nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:06 PM
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I got a question, why do y’all never have all this energy for the dudes that actually do you wrong? Like you gotta project it on random dudes that don’t know you from a can of paint. Thinking being a good person should always be rewarded instead of being a good person for the sake of it. Stop with the “ohh nice guys can also do bad things”. No shit. We know. But it seems like y’all are too pussy to clap back at the dudes that do you the dirtiest. So you gotta beat down on dudes you perceive as w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:33 PM
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😂😂 fair
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:32 PM
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I think the internet is swaying peoples opinions a bit - maybe it’s cause I don’t run trad circles but it feels like we’re a long way from the 50s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:07 PM
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Crazy how you think there aren’t plenty of relationships where the girl is a slob and the guy picks up after her all day
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:25 PM
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I don't think you guys are as emotionally intelligent as you pride yourself as being. Cause wtf is this mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:03 PM
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Nah dude they’re in there despite the info. They just don’t gaf. Water seeks its own level
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:41 AM
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No one wants to get drug publicly and Scarlet Letter’d. It’s not even a responsible way of keeping women safe. It doesn’t even seem to be working cause if the guy is good looking there are women in the comments lining up to meet him. Doing this type of shit in retaliation doesn’t make you any better. Y’all all weirdos for invading peoples privacy. Didn’t we see the dangers of doing this shit in school?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:34 AM
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Why do you doubt that it’s common amongst women? And how do you come to the conclusion that men are more likely to develop these relationships? It seems like when we talk about stuff like this there’s more bias than substance in the convo. Also, why do you feel like money is the tipping point for y’all? Is it because it resonates negatively, because we are in a patriarchal society? Like a reason other than it just feels icky. Do you feel differently about women paying for porn/hitting the strip …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:30 AM
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What exactly is not the same? You're implying it's better when women do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 03:43 PM
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Maybe not exactly following male onlyfans accounts but have you been to an attractive man’s social media page? Plenty of unashamed, proudly married women going feral in those comments. One dude I know as an acquaintance who is gay has had to tell them to chill once or twice because of the comments
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 02:20 PM
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This is just a super shallow way of saying you value hotness over actually trying to determine depth of character. Which is cool, as long as you don’t go on about how the dude you picked treated you - or grill dudes for being shallow
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:06 PM
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So men shouldn’t have to answer for or police other dudes either , right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:02 PM
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Returning the same energy means you're the same. Y'all are playing hatred tennis on the same shitty court. You ain't no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:53 AM
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You look to be in the same category with all due respect. Healthy well adjusted individuals don't go around bashing the other gender like you're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:14 AM
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Have you guys seen screenshots of the male app where they post nudes of women? Cause iont think I’ve seen any ladies in here too pressed about evidence for that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:37 AM
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The fact that you’re taking comment sections like these as any kind of evidence makes you sound no better than an incel. Y’all need to touch grass expeditiously
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:35 AM
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Brother you going back and forth like this is a conversation. She made up her mind before you started talking
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:27 AM
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You guys can look on tiktok where there are other women have been calling the women that did this out. If y’all are really being good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:07 AM
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The dudes I know that have done and continue to do women the dirtiest STAY with a roster. Anyone trying to moralize dating or women’s preferences is lost. Women are not perfect. So they won’t make perfect dating choices. Men are not perfect. So they won’t make perfect dating choices. People can see a great option and not click with them cause they’re addicted to chaos. Still in love with their ex. Want someone richer. Want someone taller. Want someone who talks more. Want someone who talks less.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:59 PM
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Real
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 03:20 AM
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The average ppd woman isn’t super appealing either
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 03:17 AM
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Do y’all feel like you see a woman as something to be “achieved”? Like through certain behavior? Cause that’s the way it sounds sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 03:13 AM
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Trying to see what’s up with the guys in the posts, despite the point of the post being that he probably isn’t the best candidate.. Most of the posts with screenshots of the users have been taken down by now, but there a lot of posts about the aftermath https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8khwadP/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8kk8TfM/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8khgoAQ/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8khEdrK/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:42 PM
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Yes man, people have been posting vids of the comments. They may be still on certain tiktok pages if you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:57 PM
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You gotta speak for yourself man. There are plenty of those types of people on there
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:46 PM
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Everyone’s worried and offended because it’s a clusterfuck of dumbassery. Everyone from the outside looking in is saying the same thing. The guys and the girls. There’s literally no reason to create a “nice guy” boogeyman in this situation
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:45 PM
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By top percentile you just mean top percentile in terms of pulling women though. Top percentile in terms of pulling women = \ = top percentile in terms of salary, looks, etc. The dudes that had women fighting over them on that app were bums… and people were mad confused until, unfortunately, the female users’ pictures came out. Surprise. Dumb bums dating dumb bums
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:41 PM
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You only got one life don't change your hobbies based on some rando woman or man who'll be annoyed with whatever you do eventually Someone who really cares about you will want you to do whatever you want, and enjoy. Not whatever impresses them or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:30 PM
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You’re thinking of the trad movement types, or those who co-opt the label of feminist to push a message. Not real feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:43 PM
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I’m sorry, maybe I didn’t write it correctly, but I didn’t mean to imply “all”. Just that these instances exist
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 09:56 PM
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Well I don't exactly share your experience but I do respect it. No harm in agreeing to disagree. Maybe you've hit the goldmine, but although I would've agreed with you as a teenager, I've seen that women really ain't much better than men in terms ... just about everything. Personally. I think we value the average woman's approach to friendship more - but I think that has to do with a lot of shit, and partly because of how it looks from the outside looking in. I've seen girls' friend groups flip …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 07:58 PM
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Most guys don't see the majority of women they're attracted to as options. And people will fuck people they wouldn't date. Men more so sure. But that gap is probably closing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 07:46 PM
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I think his gripe is probably that most women don't see it as an issue when women do it. So it becomes more normalized. And then that's another annoying, weird ass behavior people have to deal with in dating. Yeah, we can avoid people who do things like this but everyone's tired of running into weird shit when they're dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 07:43 PM
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>This is absolutely true and anyone denying this is not living in reality. Men are terrible friends to each other, at the very least they're terrible at being emotional soft places to land. >They're just "suck it up," "be a man," or they're just so emotionally stunted themselves they can't process anything lol. You don't think female friends tell men to "suck it up" or "be a man"? Or think there are men who are the best friends in the world? This men bad women good shit is lame. It doesn't even …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 07:30 PM
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Lol right back at ya I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:14 PM
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Libel
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 01:04 PM
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There have been plenty of men who have came with receipts after being posted to the app and lied on. There are women there that want to be messy or vindictive without good reason for doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 01:03 PM
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Trashy dudes. And a bunch of trashy women arguing over some of em. Can’t help em - shoutout to the women and men calling it out for what it is though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 01:00 PM
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Sorry enjoy or want? I truly think men and women enjoy sex the same. It can be harder for a woman to get off, but they sure as hell enjoy it when they do. Now want, I think hormones definitely play a large role in when we want sex - men can be most of the time, but when a women's hormones tell her it's go time, from what I've seen, they're meter goes wayyyy past the average man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:09 AM
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I didn't misunderstand a word. The reason your comment doesn't hold water is because obviously the risks aren't "so much higher" that they dissuade the majority of women from enjoying casual sex. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:54 PM
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Well that’s what I mean. You’re not a part of the group that’s gonna lie to save face
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:16 PM
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Yet so many still have no problem enjoying it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:14 PM
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I think it’s disingenuous to act like the only benefit of casual sex is brief physical pleasure, for one And second, you gotta speak for yourself. Plenty of women love casual sex. What are we even talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:13 PM
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You can put your mind at ease by just listening to the women that admit that there are plenty of shallow women lol. But there will always be a group that claim they're not interested in the physical at all. But you're gonna drive yourself wild waiting for everyone to admit it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 01:39 AM
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Treat others as you want to be treated, pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 10:32 PM
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Using the golden rule would solve so many problems not only in terms of dating, but in general. It seems like so many people don't mind it anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 10:02 PM
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There are weird men and women that get mad when people of the other gender say they want to be single. Buuuuut it’s in your best interest to ignore them…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:00 PM
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Same way anyone else when they get led on or misled period. You get over it. These are the girls who are using you for a distraction cause the guy they want doesn’t want them at the moment, or they want to get over their ex (they won’t) or they’re too indecisive to enter a relationship. Most dudes have a story about a girl like this. Idk why y’all think it’s only guys that do this. This ain’t nothing new or uncommon. One of the reasons why most guys think they’d like this is because a lot of guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:25 AM
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>Okay...and? while I understand that hurts, isn't the other person perfectly within their rights to do that. Respectfully, it really just seems like most of y'all don't understand how to treat people with respect. EVERYONE deserves basic human kindness. It seems like it's become a trend to rationalize why it's okay to treat certain types of people badly, out of fear of being "the bad guy in the situation". Stop it. Get some help
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:26 PM
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I think the positive angle is you shouldn’t try to put a whole bunch of extra effort to impress someone that doesn’t like you, in an attempt to make them like you Does it work all the time? Yes. Sure. Is it a healthy dynamic? I don’t think so
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 01:18 PM
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The Love island discourse going on right now can end the gender wars i swear.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 02:38 AM
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I think it’s weird and telling who cares that much about what other people are doing in their bedrooms. Women obsessed with men watching porn, men obsessed with women using sex toys, etc The shaming is weird. Mind your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:58 AM
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Other than some mild rudeness not much. But that was like freshman year of college. I think the worst was when I asked a friend out and she accused me of wanting to sleep with her. Like damn I got to know you, think you're cool and I'm trying to make you my girlfriend eventually. It sucked then, but I eventually learned that she just had a weird take on dating. Some people prefer the friends to lovers route. The girl i'm seeing someone now and I have been friends for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:07 PM
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This is a self fulfilling prophecy. If you have to act like this in a relationship, you don't need to be in a relationship. Standards in a relationship don't just mean physical shit, you need standards in terms of how you are treated and how you treat your partner
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:41 PM
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What possessed you guys to think that men and women should be telling each other what they should and shouldn't be asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:15 AM
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Gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 04:46 PM
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That’s fair and congrats. I personally think break ups are fine as well, but it usually depends on what happens / perspective - who was the break upper and breakuppee.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:35 AM
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I’ve personally seen the opposite from lesbian couples I know. A lot of the time they break up a lot and get back together, partly because their dating pool is so much smaller
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:17 AM
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We probably define it differently. Have you had a lot of dating experiences period? Have you tried? Cause everyone I know seems to have had unrequited crushes, trouble finding someone they really like, breakups, ghosting issues, etc.. Like sure, if you’ve never had a car you probably ain’t gonna have many car issues
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:02 AM
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Imagine having reading comprehension 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:31 AM
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We need each other Many do care about male validation, and as you can see from this sub, many men really care about female validation as well We tell men to be better all the time and women and men are suffering from a lot of the same issues. Let’s be real here. Every living adult has had dating troubles. This seems disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:30 AM
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Instead of the us vs them mentality I think you should be more inclined to go for people who go for you as well. In that respect I’d say yeah, no one should be “chasing”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:27 AM
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A sometimes, and sometimes they pay for me. But anyone EXPECTING you too aint a friend. That's weirdo shit
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:49 PM
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I think it's more relevant than we think. Knowing people, especially women, know and can relate to your dating woes can keep a lot of men out of real dark "women are the enemy type places". And the same goes for women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:54 PM
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I'd figure it leads to a better mindstate, along with the thoughts that people care about you and that you're not alone. Better mindstate leads to better outcomes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:49 PM
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>Society cannot help you in dating though I understand where you're coming from, and I don't think society usually "directly" helps, but more indirectly. Being part of an ecosystem helps. The more people you expose yourself to, for lack of a better term, and the more people who expose themselves to you, the higher chances you have. I hate things like singles mixers, but there are all kinds of opportunities to mix organically with people in public spaces. Clubs, events, bookstores, card shops, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:11 PM
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>Dating apps show men want women more than women want men Coming to this conclusion from "dating app data" is... not it. There are a lot of lonely people of both genders that are stuck in a cycle and making themselves more lonely by absorbing all this second-hand trauma and incel/femcel rhetoric online. Touch grass
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:56 PM
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>As a grown man you need to fix your own problem No one here fixes all of their issues alone. Especially not social ones. Believing this is the literal reason so many men and women are fucking their head up right now >Crying and complaining to society to show sympathy really doesn't benefit you at all. Y'all please take a step back and consider if you know what you're talking about before saying stuff like this. You'll have a real negative impact on someone's life
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:51 PM
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Is this when we say “not a monolith, they don’t speak for me?”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:10 PM
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Everything you said can be attributed to a subset of women as well. This gender war shit is dumb. Again, not a gendered issue
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:07 PM
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Except - women will do the same thing. I’ve seen plenty of women say they just slept with a nearby guy cause they were drunk and/or horny “Male attention” is no more worthless than “female attention”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 11:01 AM
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Cause what happened to “we are not a monolith”? Not every woman is even looking for the same thing. Y’all are acting like the vast majority of women are these self-actualized pictures of mental health that just can’t seem to find a man on their level. The women out here are struggling just as much as the men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:00 AM
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Great comment
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 12:26 AM
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I can’t agree. I know plenty of dudes that struggle with casual sex who are surrounded by women they love and vice versa. And a lot of the dudes who claim to have a ton of casual sex are shitty to women. We keep tryin to moralize or put casual sex on a pedestal like you need to hit a certain bar to be worthy. Like it’s a secret club. But that ain’t it. All this “punching down” on “incels” is perpetuating the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:48 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:45 PM
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She’s an “online life coach” dude. Let’s be real. She’s online to make money - and does make plenty from her followers. You think she’s doing this for fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 12:10 PM
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As social media becomes more and more influential, yes. Just like Andrew Tate influences young guys, she influences young girls. We have to deal with the consequences of online actions
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 12:08 PM
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It's insane how many men hate this woman because she makes them feel inadequate when she talks about dating men with money. As someone who hates Tate it’s crazy how some of you guys make excuses for these grifters. All they do is come online and spout nonsense and vulnerable, traumatized people flock to them. I saw Liz’s first video a long time ago talking about manifesting and all that and years later she’s shifted into the same tired grift. Yes this shit is annoying. They’re pissing in the dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:57 AM
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Weird take, if your only reasoning for getting marry is monetary, maybe do your potential future husband a solid and don't marry him. Like this gives major "women dont cook anymore" energy, just reversed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:47 PM
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First off, I agree with your sentiment. Not even gonna touch OP’s scenario. But you guys don’t seem to understand that many women get MORE attracted to men according to their personality. Most of us do get it. That happens to most people. But it’s being treated as something we should be happy for. Like a consolation prize from the love of your life. Like “she doesn’t find you handsome but at least she finds you handy!” Most people don’t want to hear that lol. Not men, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 01:14 PM
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Some people just have a different way of communicating. Lots of women refer to dudes as “dick” all the time. They drag men in group chats. Unless you’re made of glass you’ll be okay. If it offends you, cool, let them know - but it’s just not gonna bother most people
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:55 PM
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>At 400 an hour (that’s 400 20 years ago!) You were making bank fr!! Thanks for sharing your perspective. I think if people weren't so quick to dehumanize each other we could learn a lot and empathize much easier
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:17 PM
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Gotcha. Has your attitude towards sex changed before, during or after that time? I have a friend who used to do sex work under the table but her attitude towards sex actually seems to vary wildly. Sometimes she seems very confident in terms of sex, lots of hookups, lots of talking about it, and posting a lot about sex on social media but other times like when she's talking about her past experiences or talking to her younger sister she mentions dudes "using" her. She has a lot of shame around it…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:52 AM
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I don't think the dudes frequenting sex workers the most aren't unattractive, they just have the money and desire. From what I've seen. Not my cup a tea personally, but we're not slut shaming other people in here right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:24 AM
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Man honestly, as a dude that's not super into casual sex myself but have no qualms about other people having it I don't see the issue either. But aside from obvious slut-shaming from men, I see it all the time from women too. I also see men routinely called things and shamed when they approach women for casual sex respectfully (disrespect doesn't count). I think it's because of the way we view our status and the status of others. But I feel like everyone should mind their business for the most p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:22 AM
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What lies exactly are getting women to bed?the promise of a relationship? Anything else? Cause we keep hearing how some dudes are these master manipulators but when we see these dudes… they ain’t that. Would it be fair to say that many women (and people period) just aren’t as good at reading people as they think? Also.. don’t think you’re leaving out the part that many women grew up with dysfunction so dysfunctional is their type? And being manipulative in terms of dating is definitely not just …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:47 AM
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It’s funny how most 40,50,60 year olds that we know tell us not to get married 😂😂😭
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:07 AM
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Ain’t no way you’re that dense dude lol. Let’s just cut it here
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 11:01 PM
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Wanting to enter a relationship with a partner =\ = wanting to get your dick wet
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:50 PM
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Definitely
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:49 PM
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I don’t exactly know why some of y’all expect people to know if they like y’all like that so early into knowing you. Like they don’t even know you flyer forreal. This seems to be an internet thing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:48 PM
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You’re spitting imo. I don’t wanna say that “women should help” because I know that women are (in the west) just beginning to reach similar status as men in terms of rights and respect, and not everyone will be up to the task yet. And simultaneously y’all have some parties of men (and women I guess) trying to take your rights and respect back from you. But I think the world is better the less anyone has the suffer and there are some kind downtrodden men that are kind of getting whisked away by t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:29 PM
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What you mean blamed? You mean held accountable when you complain about him later or what? Cause otherwise how is anyone going to know your business? And how often is this happening? Like damn if you running into the same shit over and over, fuck other peoples opinion, don’t you want better for yourself? You don’t think the pattern has anything to do with you at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:12 PM
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I completely agree, they wouldn't
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:48 AM
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Shit from what I've seen most dudes will jump at the chance. No-strings-attached sex without having to deal with her otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:08 AM
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>. Your value is directly affected by your social standing. If every woman in your city thinks you're a disloyal cheat, that isn't going to help you. Problem is you're trying to use your logic regarding a person who dosn't care about the things you care about. Some people have completely different (or no) values. I definitely don't think most people see it as a positive, but not everyone sees it as a negative either. Especially if they're wealthy/famous? You know how many women go after married …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:01 AM
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You're saying men should be humble... cause most women aren't tripping over them? You think its up to you to gate keep men's self-confidence? The irony lmao. Humble yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 12:51 AM
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>Nice guys always, ALWAYS will Adding stuff like this to your post is gonna have people not hear your point out But sure, yes, this dynamic also happens a lot with some guys and their female orbiters. Girls will even try to use sex to win him over. What's your point
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 12:46 AM
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They co-opted it, was around and popular way before them though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:43 PM
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I love this subreddit cause we all seem to have to tell each other our gender isn’t a monolith constantly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:39 PM
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Nah there was a miscommunication here. I was talking about older women predating on teenagers. And also, stop putting words into my mouth and lumping us together. You don’t know a thing about me or what I’ve seen. I know wtf I said and meant. I don’t give a good god damn who else you been talking to about this topic - you crying about “all of you are all the same” makes you look like a dumbass. You keep talking about “new definitions” and shit and you’re starting to sound the same as some bigot …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 06:09 PM
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Dude fuck all that. Men get SA’d too. Men are predated by older women. “Teach him the ways of pleasing women?” My G my friends were RAPED by older women. Y’all that romanticize this shit are weirdos and are keeping this tape culture shit alive. Just like men, if people can’t navigate communication prior to sex correctly, with someone age appropriate, it doesn’t need to happen. Like grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:18 PM
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Oooh you’re spitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:39 PM
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I mean... there's plenty https://np.reddit.com/r/datingoverthirty/comments/1huci3a/guy_i_went_out_with_said_show_me_a_guy_who_doesnt/ https://np.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/1dqh0in/im_newly_single_and_trying_to_weed_out_men_who/ https://www.lovepilled.com/should-you-date-a-man-who-watches-porn/ Plenty of women blame porn for things like unrealistic standards in the bedroom, or "death grip" and all that shit. You've never seen any of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:01 AM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:46 AM
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I don’t think that’s charisma drawing you in. There’s plenty of charismatic people with good intentions that aren’t serial killers n shit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:42 AM
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People ain’t talking about those guys. If you get tricked, you get tricked. Most people are talking about the dudes waving a fukton of neon red flags, attracting a certain type of woman - that complain about them doing them dirty afterwards. Only these people. Yes they exist. Yes most grow out of it. But some take much much longer than others. (Forever) I don’t think it’s their fault, I think if they want better circumstances then it’s their responsibility *yes men do this too
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:28 AM
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The fact that you called it little is helping to proving my point. This is a highly publicized example of bias. This is a well documented example - Most instances aren't. We could bring up hundreds of examples and each time you'd move the goal posts. You guys' understanding of statistics is a bit lacking if you're reading off numbers and conveniently ignoring context when it suits you. No one is absolving men of anything. Our point is that you guys are, conveniently, WAY underestimating women's …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 09:42 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karla_Homolka Example
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 07:16 PM
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Like I discussed with another commentator, I think believing this in a vacuum is actually pretty harmful to women’s safety. Most women don’t see other women as possible perpetrators, so they let down their guard, or turn a blind eye when they hear about it happening. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karla_Homolka
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 07:16 PM
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Firstly, I'm not going to engage with this without pointing out that you were using minimizing language by using things like "your perception of i" its not my perception that men pose a greater risk to women women do to men in regards to serious physical violence and sexual assault. That is a factual reality. We are not going to use minimizing language. Everyone has their own perception and bias. If you don’t want to talk, cool, but yeah that doesn’t fly over here either. If I was being pedantic…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 06:54 PM
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I think certain expectations are way too high and others are way too low. For both
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 06:36 PM
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I was never looking to engage your point about men. I even said that - like my second or third sentence. What I’m trying to bring attention to is how we reach that conclusion. Perception is important. Perception is what skews our viewpoint in relation to what’s really going on. Perception is what’s having men and woman pointing the finger at each other calling each other evil opportunists. Taking the stance that men are a greater risk to women than women are to men is fine - but again, the conte…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 06:34 PM
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>The average man is less likely to be seriously harmed or sexually assaulted by a woman than the reverse. I think context when using "statistics" is important. I personally don't think what you're saying is wrong. But many people will take this as the majority of men don't get seriously harmed or sexually assaulted by women. But it happens all the time. Women are not likely to report, but men are ESPECIALLY not likely to report. Many women don't realize what they went through until later but MAN…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 04:41 PM
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>Men are not easily replaceable. Only dick and pussy are easily replaceable. Faaacts
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:53 AM
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>You will be replaced by someone better who will do those things. She is the one with options, not you. I am not saying that you CAN't hold those opinions, but just be aware that it can cost you. Come on. All of this is so goofy and divorced from reality. No offense but your friend sounds like she's just helping to spread piss in the dating pool. -Someone who doesn't take the time and care to treat people like people is not going to make a good partner. -Someone finding someone else that they ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:47 AM
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When has a rape joke ever been funny People have the right to tell unfunny jokes, and people have the right to express how lame they think they are. Especially if it’s one about violence against an oppressed group of people 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 01:51 AM
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Im blocking anyone that even begins to agree LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:02 PM
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Ain’t nobody ask you to be a therapist did they? But nobody asked you or anyone else to take potshots at people expressing their trauma here, yet people do that on this sub on the daily 🤔 acting like you’re better than them cause it’s easy, right? If you wanna combat misogyny, great. But if you come on here talking about that’s what you wanna do, but all you’re doing is beating down on people who are obviously at their lowest, be open to people calling you out as well
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:37 PM
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Bashing So y’all both bashing victims? And in what other cases do we give people shit when they express frustration about their parents choices when we were kids? Instead of having a degree of sympathy both you do what you’re doing. After he shared their experience. Y’all literally adding to the mess
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:06 PM
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Right so what makes you think seeing that would turn him away from redpill, instead of steering him towards it? I don't think it's a huge assumption to guess he was hurt by that. Most likely still hurt by it. Those events probably shaped his perception. You know how they say despite people's efforts, a lot of the time they end up like their parents? Or end up modelling behaviors they saw in their childhood? Know any women who had grown man after grown man run through their mom's house when they …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:05 AM
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Still exists, will always exist. It just changed shape a little in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:54 AM
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This is a great point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:54 AM
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Nah, but why do you think some people could easily tell and some people couldn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:48 AM
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And you're yelling at another victim
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:43 AM
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You identified his problem, why he's a victim, and are still beating him over the head with it. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:41 AM
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I don't think they're always easily spotted - I think that it's hard for us to identify where our own defenses are weak, where "abusers" can "target". Once they aim for someone's low self-confidence, or body issues, or daddy issues, or codependency they can string you along without trying. As a guy, we can usually identify abusive guys super easily. Like without trying we could pick em out of a lineup. And I think it's the same for women too. But something happens when it's the opposite gender. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:34 AM
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Is someone posing nude or semi-nude "objectively bad" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:47 AM
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More often than not women don't either
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:49 PM
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Lots of people are stupid and shallow. Women are about as stupid and shallow as men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:46 PM
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Most people are shallow as fuck, yes, men and women - I think women are more likely to cap about what they're looking for based on who they're talking to. Talking to my female friends about their dating standards when we first met is wayyyyy different than talking to them now
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:42 PM
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How are they easy to meet when so many women are saying next to know guys have all of these attributes?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:36 PM
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>Bully apologist always throw this platitude out to abused people trying to whitewash the reality of evil. Reality is what doesn't kill someone physically can kill them mentally.; For every person strong enough to be all forgiving and kind, a hundred more are ground and destroyed. Evil shouldn't be excused or forgiven. It should be destroyed. Sooo are you advocating destroying people or what? Who's setting the standard? Everyone has negative qualities - all of us qualify as "evil" in someone's b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:42 AM
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>Sometimes you have to be a bad person to survive the other bad people. How? Strongest people I know are the ones with the strength to be kind while also setting boundaries and having the sense of self to maintain their personality. No one with any sense expects anyone to be perfect. So why exactly are you concerned about the men that want to you to be this or do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:10 AM
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>If you want anything to change for the better, change male behavior for the better. Weak excuse to be an asshole. The world's never gonna be perfect. If your're in a space full of assholes and you become an asshole, congrats. You're just another asshole!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:01 AM
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Dumb shit like this is exactly why we're in the position we're in now. Holy shit you guys pick the absolute WORSE traits of WORSE men to emulate
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:26 PM
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Oh you're preaching. By far the most shocking thing on this sub. Like you're married or whatever and still neurotically post here and argue? I know you're a miserable ass person. This sub is probably the only place they can larp as "normal" There are some people here that are great though, imo. A lot of them don't think so but you can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:30 AM
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This sub is light, even for reddit. It's especially light compared to some internet spaces. And it doesn't even come close what you can find in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:24 AM
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As someone who interacts with a few this is common. And people accept. Are you trying to say that a celebrity asking for an NDA to be signed is weird?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:24 PM
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TL;DR - 53yr old podcaster celebrity and former NFL player preyed on vulnerable 22yr old girl whose prefrontal cortex is still underdeveloped, he is being sued for $50M He made the mistake of playing a game he could easily avoid playing. But unc wanted to think with his dick, probably because it’s worked out in the past. But this ain’t the past. You’re a 53 year old buff black ex-football all star podcaster. With infinitely more to lose. She’s a 20-something year old tiny white girl. The deck is…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:14 PM
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I feel like this is coming from a place of frustration, which is understandable. But I’ve kind of gone back and forth with this with a fe ladies on this sub in terms of women’s dating choices. This is the quickest way to solve many of men’s problems, but it’s also a great opportunity to create a ton of new ones. I don’t think don’t need more blind mistrust. We need ascertainment and resilience. Ascertainment to make good choices. Resilience so when something doesn’t go your way, you don’t break …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:59 PM
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The real issue here is how a person reacts when someone approach them, no one should force them to like that other person but they shouldn't response in a rude way. For sure
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:37 PM
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By the way, humans are visual creatures. So we can clearly see who looks conventionally attractive or not My argument is that this there’s definitely not a universal standard of beauty. “Humans are visual creatures” is a statement that holds no weight. It doesn’t mean anything. You can give an example of women you think are conventionally attractive and not everyone’s going to agree. And vice versa. Our tastes differ from person to person, and more broadly, gender to gender. Men and women seem t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:31 PM
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Honestly man you're just going off of bias here. There are plenty of women that don't take no for an answer. I've had multiple women literally TELL me they "don't take being told no well" after being rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:02 PM
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>I guess it's due to the fact that conventionally attractive men only show interest to conventionally attractive women. I think we see conventionally attractive men with conventionally unattractive women all the time - the hurdle is, who are yall willing to admit is a conventionally unattractive woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:43 PM
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GOOD FOR YOU Seriously dude I'm so happy for you, especially as someone who felt similar to you (although the relationship was much much shorter)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:28 PM
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>Women are bad at violence Someone definitely lied to you - I don't know where yall are from but the women get into it wayyy more than the dudes. On top of that, they're better at dragging their dudes into fights that they don't even want to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:34 PM
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I mean personally would take a "modern" woman with a great personality over a "premodern"(?) woman with a great personality any day. I feel that modern women have more agency, freedom, and are more open about their ideas and desires. My kinda gripe is that there are many that straight up aren't trying to grow as individuals, which is fine I guess, but they're blaming that on everyone and everything but themselves. Some of the weird stuff I've seen lately - -Not taking accountability for their ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:28 PM
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They're like the women version of soundcloud rappers
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:51 PM
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I think part of the issue is putting people in “boxes” like this and all. I don’t understand what things like “chad” are supposed to be. In reality there are no “chads” and whatever the opposite is. But some of us are relatively physically “attractive”, make good money, etc. We just like to argue about how dumb the gender wars are, and maybe have some positive conversations about self-improvement with someone feeling down
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:55 PM
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Yeah this is bunk, there seems to be an interest in moralizing female sexual attraction here. There are people with high body counts that hate women, as well as plenty with low body counts that hate women. No, a dude being hot doesn’t mean he treats women better. You think that man’s nicer cause he got abs. It’s okay!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:22 PM
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Try thinking about it not as “approaching” but interacting I think everyone should approach if they’re feeling it - yeah you’ll run into terrible people sometimes but you’ll also probably run into good ones. Sitting around cause your only options are the people who come up to you is wild. The best options probably are not gonna fall into your lap. This goes for men and women btw
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:25 PM
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Yea gay men def love going on dates with women Y’all love to reach for homophobia when a guy makes you feel insecure, damn
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:22 PM
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Men and women fought together to loosen the grip traditional gender roles had on women, in many parts of the world. Against men and women that wanted to maintain that grip. Working together so that everyone is in a better position is not only beneficial for us, but the next generations. "I got mine fuck everyone else" is the same lame pile of shit we keep running into
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:06 PM
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Some women can empathize cause they're the same type of person. There are plenty of women that don't empathize and will say better choices start with you. We see examples of good relationships all the time. What's stopping those people from choosing one of those people as a partner, or stopping one of those people from choosing one of your example people as a partner? The disconnect is happening around the "women just keep picking poorly" part. Some women (and men) make great choices in and outs…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:45 PM
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The majority of dudes that use prostitutes are the ones that have a whole bunch of extra cash to blow on prostitutes - it's convenience and laziness not desperation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 12:25 AM
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Hate to answer for any women, but some have told me it's the dude's demeanor / danger that's a turn on, not exactly the "violent acts".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:10 PM
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I think a guy feeling entitled to a date is crazy but I also think that a women thinking she’s too high class for someone and* being outwardly rude or offended is wild. Maybe it’s cause I grew up poor and have money now but it’s so cringey. Both parties should be courteous and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:20 PM
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/thread
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 05:24 PM
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I mean there’s multiple women in here saying that too, so their opinion means as much as your right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 05:13 PM
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but I assume the women saying this are high maintenance and likely beautiful. Because why would you, a man, bother with their content at all if they weren't? Well, those women expect a ROT for all their self investment. This new age economizing of dating is wild. Why do y’all feel the need into breaking down social interactions into “self-investment” and “self-interest”? The guys approach a random women they think looks good (their opinion) and that they think is interesting enough to get to kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 05:10 PM
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For good partners yes, but some people… https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8juLga3/ Not all women are so progressive either. Just like there are men who want their wives to work a job AND totally take care of everything at home (cooking, cleaning, kids)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:13 AM
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🤣 id say you got a 50/50 chance at best for a respectful response. Not every person is respectful lol. It is what it’s is. The issue is some dudes on here that aren’t considered “conventionally attractive” get the worst of it because some people start talking to hem sideways cause they’re actually OFFENDED certain unattractive people are approaching them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:17 PM
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If you got 100% power and 0% looks I don’t think women are gonna be checking for you lol. Will you get women? Yes. Will they really want you? Probably not I kinda agree on the kindness thing. I think the issue is dudes thinking kindness has anything to do with sexual attraction. For the majority of people, probably doesn’t. I know there are some people in here like “well I did t find my partner attractive till I got to know their personality” - cool. But there are people you can look at and be i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:14 AM
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As someone else from the Bible Belt I’ve seen it both ways - but everyone’s mixed together and everyone wasn’t raised the same. You got people who think men should be served plates first by their wives, people who think men should always open the door for ladies, people who think that women shouldn’t touch household bills, people who think men shouldn’t touch dishes along with people who think gender roles should be kicked to the curb. So yeah people usually react weirdly when they encounter som…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:25 PM
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Ain't nobody got time for that, hah Facts. Also these coworkers are women my b for not clarifying
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:43 AM
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I actually had this discussion with a few coworkers. They're college educated, smart, kind, and progressive. We're all near 30. They asked if I'd fight a dude if he said some slick shit to us. I was like I'd say something slicker and keep it pushin. Why fight? They said it was about "protecting your girl's honor". I was like is your honor really worth going to jail over? Somebody getting killed accidentally? They were like it is what it is The dating pool is rough out here man. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:45 AM
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Depends on where you’re from I think lol. Where I’m from your girl is fs calling you a bitch for that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:27 AM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:22 AM
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Respectfully, you think this is the case for the majority of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:18 AM
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As much as it disgusts me and aint my cup of tea, I feel like banning things like this for ADULTS - won't do squat in terms of reducing prevalence. We don't want to get into banning media anyway. The people that want access will get access one way or another. Obviously most of us don't want people becoming more comfortable with stuff like this, but hopefully we can reach a space where few people desire it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:23 PM
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Gotta point out the obvious - this is just a people issue - to some point we all use some source of positive reinforcement for our self confidence But how much of it does someone need? And how will they act if they have to go without it? Have they become addicted? Or are they at least resilient enough to survive without having someone constantly kiss their ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:47 PM
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Probably a mixture of both. Human nature to want everything without putting work in I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:27 PM
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Most women know their body changes around 35. But they don’t want random men or their moms getting up in their face like “BeTtER FInd A MAn qUIck YoURE exPIRing” Like it’s annoying and I’m a dude. Leave them alone. We are moving into a new age socially. Not everyone needs or wants to have children. If they regret it, so be it, but let them have their choice
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:03 PM
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So women say dumb shit, they’re dumb women or kidding - men say dumb shit they’re literally the worst. Tf
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:56 PM
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The “kill all men” people are around, but it’s a very small percentage that goes that hard People are just more insular and awkward now. Everyone is - men approaching less is just an obvious marker
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:13 PM
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I mean they had kids with him to get to the bag. Losers playing losers. Happens all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:04 AM
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Men and women seem to do this about each other nonstop. It seems that both sides are unsatisfied with their options. Dassit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:53 AM
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True, defeats the purpose of a partnership too. You’re starting off with deception. Everyone ain’t for everyone and that’s okay
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:46 AM
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Even in terms of something like misogyny, your viewpoint still manages to be super hyperbolic. I feel you just have an issue with men in general, honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 10:22 PM
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??? I’ve never been apart of that group but I have read some posts and the majority of them are men venting OR saying mean, misguided things about women But it seems like you’re lumping in “men whining” (god forbid they have a place to express themselves) with shit like violent misogyny, rape apologists and bestislity..? We both know damn well them aren’t on there talking about all that shit - and the ones that are get called out in it. For some reason men in a group talking shit about women see…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 11:44 AM
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This guy? “Bad opinions don’t exist because I don’t see them, and if you do see them, those opinions are your fault, anyway” is textbook female solipsism and why men will never take women seriously as rational actors. Or OPs post? I don’t agree with the second half of the post above but based on the first half I think that my answer was pretty topical. What the redpill guy said specifically here wasn’t wrong was it? OP seems to argue that calling people out is a duty. People have argued that in …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:16 PM
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It’s not about the algorithms, or the fact that he can’t handle the videos. It’s the fact that they exist. I can ignore racial diatribes online, but they still exist - it’s a problem. Female friends of mine see and experience misogyny on everything from YouTube videos to online games. I don’t have to deal with misogyny, but I know it exists. I see it too. How would it look if they came up to me and asked me about it and I was like “uhhhh just turn off the screen dude lmao”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:04 AM
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This way of thinking is everywhere, especially now. Politics, gender relations, anything where some people have an “us vs them” mentality. It ends up pushing people to one side or the other and galvanizing those people in those groups. We’re all guilty of it. At least the vast, vast majority of us. So yeah that’s why being fair and thinking critically is important. I’m sure there’s a name for it but I’m not a sociologist
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:59 AM
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Feeling some type of way cause a type of person wanted to approach you respectfully is weird, sorry. Get over yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 06:33 PM
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I agree there - as someone who’s seen a woman be treated badly in a terrible relationship, by a terrible partner, it’s relieving that more are taking the steps and having the agency to leave. I’ve also seen instances where one party is carrying the relationship on their back and their partner leaves cause they don’t know what they want out of life and they see their partner as a sudden roadblock. That’s life ig
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:51 PM
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I literally just argued with someone about that in a thread like yesterday lol. I see a lot of weird shit here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:10 PM
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Being miserable doesn’t prove you’re in terrible conditions. It means you’re miserable. There are plenty of people who are miserable and want to be single when in a relationship , and miserable and want to be in a relationship while single
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:24 PM
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This, they're talking about the characteristics of the man. Vacation dick as in a guy they want to have sex with but not lock down
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:27 PM
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It's about honesty... values... etc. Not feeling good. Are these foreign concepts or something? This WILL break her heart and it WILL be bad. It's not about you looking like the "good guy" you already wanna fuck someone outside of your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:29 PM
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Idk how you managed to misconstrue the point so we’ll but goddamn you did it. If you wanna fuck someone other than your wife, the least you can do is give her the decency of the truth and a break up first. Who said anything about anything being okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 08:59 AM
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Dude w h a t Idk where to start honestly. I don’t want to jump you for asking a question though. I guess to start- it seems like this guy has been idealized and put on a pedestal by you, but also you’re accusing them of being “secretly different” outside of a work environment? It seems like you’re saying people have obligations to act like you’d like them to act… which isn’t how we work. This is just a lot to respond to.. I really think you need to give dude space and respectfully, not mind his …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 02:21 AM
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Yup, see it mostly in couples where their partner had some degree of mental Illness or are attending school. We rarely hear about it cause those men rarely complain about it unless she ends up doing him dirty
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 01:28 AM
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It’s a fkn relationship lmao if you don’t have the self control to keep it in your pants why the hell are you in a relationship?? Sometimes I think the ladies are overboard in their distaste for men and then you see mess like this? The fuck we talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 10:10 AM
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So we should ignore all the dumb redpill mess on the internet too right? Just jokes right. To claim that the internet doesn’t influence offline social trends is super off
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 12:35 PM
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There's no defense for cheating. If someone wants to be with someone else, they should have the balls to break up with their partner. Cheating is just trying to have your cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 12:17 AM
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This is something that should be looked at on a case by case basis. Otherwise, you're just in your feelings and looking to blame men on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 12:12 AM
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>I think it's better to admit to boys and young men that moral character has nothing to do with success in dating, and that developing a virtuous character is best developed not out of utility for dating, but for other reasons (e.g. preserving your conscience, philosophical/spiritual ideals, creating an emotionally healthy family environment, etc). YES, i love when people can put my thoughts together better than I can. Spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 02:53 PM
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Yes, for some people relationships for the opposite sex is their be-all and end-all. This blocks them from forming healthy relationships outside of romantic ones, and keeps them in a terrible cycle. I've never met a healthy well-rounded person that also made getting girls/guys their top priority. Honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 02:51 PM
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I’m so sorry for your loss. She sounds wonderful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 07:49 PM
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He's not getting called incel cause of perception - getting a little jacked or being above average in looks will do that, regardless if they get with any women or not
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 01:26 AM
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Getting a job is mostly about who you know, not what you know
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:54 PM
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Plenty of them don’t, and have a lot of hatred for women. They just don’t “seem” like it on the outside. Plenty of average or even above average dudes that either don’t do well with women or have been done dirty and harbored heavy resentment
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 04:28 AM
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I think the problem is some of y’all are trying to assign virtue to the ability to attract women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 04:23 AM
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>Men feel attraction all the god damn time. Women need some ineffable alignment of the stars in order to feel attraction. Not the attraction she's talking about. I think that's rare for everyone. Men might feel horny a lot of the time, but true attraction? Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 03:32 PM
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I feel like that implies the only thing limiting it is access - so when given access, "80/20" is the move?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 03:28 PM
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Damn straight
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:04 AM
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Same as women talking about how good their pussy is. We ain't gotta do the lame anti-gay shit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 10:38 PM
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If anything I can agree with women that men in the past definitely did start the penis size bs. If men weren't interested in dick measuring competitions then I dont think that women would care. But I think women care and talk shit because men cared/care so much - it's a good example of toxic masculinity that both men and women commonly uphold.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 10:38 PM
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Dude certain people on here post the same weird shit almost DAILY
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 10:32 PM
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No, there is no 100% solution. To anything. People, if they have good intentions, don’t give advice saying “yeah dude this’ll work 100%”. I’m giving easy examples of things that will MINIMIZE the chance of you running into issues down the road. So if you don’t take those or other steps that MINIMIZE the chance of you being in a situation you don’t want to be in, is that not partly due to you? We don’t have time machines. What exactly are you looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 05:06 PM
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If you're living your life not taking care to avoid bad decision making, because it's possible for bad things to still happen, you're helpless. Like honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 04:51 PM
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If only there some tools that we could use, along with our good decision making to get the likelihood of getting pregnant as low as possible. If we can't get it to 100%, fuck it amirite
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 04:30 PM
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Get married if you want to deal with kids. The way some of y'all see marriage as a bigger deal and commitment than bringing a whole ass life into the world is WILD. It's unfortunate if the dude you deal with doesn't want anything to do with you and the child you both made - but that's the trade off of... getting pregnant by that man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 03:39 PM
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Yall act like it's impossible to have sex and not have anyone get pregnant. Did you guys not have health programs in school that taught you about safe sex? Condom commercials? Parents? Anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 03:27 PM
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I think everyone should prioritize self improvement and then pick better dating partners. More long term thinking less short term pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:59 PM
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The gap is closing on cheating percentages though. People are becoming more insular and selfish period. You're saying things plenty of men are saying about women. People need to stop with the groundless stereotypes and assumptions. It just makes everyone look dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:24 AM
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Everyone is attainable if they're a real person. Okay, so Aaron Taylor Johnson pops up in your grocery store and thinks you're cute. He wants to go on a date. He's now attainable. You're saying because he's attainable now, it's less harmful? Because in your mind you're going to flip a switch and stay away from him? What if you were single and he popped up?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:59 PM
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>I’m pretty sure no non crazy woman is actually seriously physically lusting over a celebrity crush. Maybe men are Respectfully I think you guys' vision of the average women is a bit off. I feel like this sub leans conservative relationship wise. Women absolutely lust over celebrity crushes and all that. Just as much as men, I'd say. Have you seen a comment section for a famous attractive guy? And it might be a bit much but I don't really think it's that big of a deal unless the guy is asking pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:50 PM
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If the only reasoning for your partner not jumping ship for a celeb is them deeming them "unattainable" there's a problem. People feel slighted by their partners checking someone else out too long in public and watching porn. As is their right. You should be mindful of your partners' feelings if you care about them. Like what are we talking about lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:38 PM
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There's a difference between you being grateful for a man treating you on a date and you saying it's embarrassing for a women to pay on a date. I have zerooooo problems with paying a women's way through. But that's my opinion. I don't go around telling others how they date. You're talking about what YOU want. For YOU. Stay in YOUR lane. What's so hard about that? Why are you sitting here telling other people what they should and shouldn't be doing? If you need traditional relationship dynamics g…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:41 PM
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Do you care if men pay for first dates with you? If so, maybe your money ain't good enough yet
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:32 PM
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The women who make good money aren't broke enough to care about any of this mess. And no self-confident man is going to be "embarrassed" by a women... using money... they're a whole adult? They grown enough to pay bills? Grown enough to go grocery shopping? Also no sane adult uses the terms "alpha" or "beta" or whatever. Fuck we talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:51 PM
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Oh damn y’all are truly on some bullshit today. Plenty of outwardly beautiful women understand reciprocity. And that makes her even more attractive to the vast majority of men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:36 PM
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We do, trust me. Idk why people can’t mind their business
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 04:15 PM
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Learn some social skills, practice flirty banter, take a shower, trim your nails, go for that promotion, have a salad instead of a 2nd chili dog, be funny, go to therapy, put down the controller and read a book, be emotionally vulnerable, floss, learn about consent, wear clothes that fit... Men are free to live as they choose, as women are free to live as they choose. You give women a list on how they should improve like this and they’re gonna look at you crazy. Your list should be for YOUR man …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 12:33 PM
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Y'all are simultaneously saying the women who date horrible man suck, AND saying it's not the fault of the women who date horrible men - because they are getting manipulated by these horrible men. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:22 AM
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Other than being whiny as fuck, no, he's literally not part of the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:56 PM
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Never said it was all women ... And idk why you keep pulling kink into this... but you can keep that over there. Not every social / dating / power / gender dynamic is kink shit. Dead it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 10:46 PM
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There goes the deny / deflect lol. Stop wastin my time dude
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 10:36 PM
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Nah, I actually grew up in two areas like this. This story ain't rare. The dudes that fall into this camp are usually bums and /or deadbeats, (maybe he has some pull in the neighborhood) and the women they get with might have some family / mental issues. The vast majority of them don't touch drugs, aren't homeless, and aren't sex workers. They're just poor and have been dealt a bad hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:12 AM
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Faaacts
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:22 AM
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I think the gag is if dude A looks decent, plenty of people would choose to be baby mama number 6 over getting with guy B
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:12 AM
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Idk what that is big guy But why do y’all bother responding if you don’t even have any type of argument? It’s cringe. Ain’t even gonna try the deny/deflect move? https://21ninety.com/turning-off-your-brain-with-your-man https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8YWvwR9/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8YWHNht/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8YWCLBS/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8YWQrEE/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8YW4XBF/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:45 PM
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Also: "I want to be able to turn my brain off and revert to my inner child when I'm with my man" This is... our low bar? The one that's in hell? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:04 PM
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Definitely, some of us have posted this before. This is good for men and women, especially those that subject themselves to a constant cycle of get into relationship - it fails - carry more baggage because you weren’t healed up and jumped into to the first relationship that came along - repeat. Like maybe take a step back and chill.. wanting a relationship is understandable but damn. There are other areas of life you can focus on
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 02:43 PM
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I said why do YOU think you’re qualified to say or determine what a nice guy is or isn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 01:49 PM
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You looking for examples or guides? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BbeTKAoV1go This video is from a thread someone posted recently. You got sugar babies and the whole sprinkle sprinkle thing, guys treating their female friends, girls who put their cash apps on their social media pages for donations, “can I buy you a drink, miss?”, etc. There are whole guides, subreddits, tiktok pages about begging men for money. Full of positive reinforcement from other women. The bars pretty low, but you can’t j…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 12:55 PM
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You can't be feminine and masculine at the same time. Y’all have actually gone full brainrot with this shit. Work and chores are “masculine and feminine”… I’ve seen it all
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 11:42 PM
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A guide on how to beg? Are you not embarrozed?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 11:35 PM
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Definitely takes something to grill some of the men here for their dumb takes about women and post this 😭 y’all please pull your heads out from where they’re stuck - why do women and men both think they’re qualified to say what a good member of the opposite sex should act like? I hope you’re happily married the way you’re talking.. cause this mess reminds me of the YouTube redpillers who’ve barely had girlfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:56 AM
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Some men don’t like it when women like sex toys - usually cause they’re insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 11:11 PM
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Nah. I feel the same. And I was just talking to some friends the other day about this. They said personally sometimes they might feel somethings a bad idea and do it anyway to get a taste of it. I was like... aight. Thanks for being honest lol I think the issue people run into is what they're looking for. Some people just date to date, cause it's a thing to do or they're bored. Not a lot of thought put into who they engage with. Not too worried about the outcome. Then there are people who are sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:53 AM
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>And if another woman shows you real desire, why hesitate? She’s already treating you better than your current girlfriend. Even if you have to put in effort to get with someone new, as long as she’s more attractive and genuinely wants you, you’re upgrading. Your girlfriend has already shown you she doesn’t desire you, and committing to someone like that will only hurt you in the long run. If another woman wants to hook up with you, why not take the opportunity? If you meet someone more attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 11:44 PM
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If only we could, you know, look at the comments. Lemme guess, the women that leave comments on these videos are also men... for the purpose of... talking shit about men. Brilliant
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 12:16 AM
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I hate that these creators mix obviously good advice with terrible advice. All they're doing is preying on vulnerable people to fill their pockets.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 12:13 AM
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And disingenuous. Of course the vast majority of women don't follow or like these creators. Not even close. But the vast majority of men aren't incels. And we sure as hell talk about them regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 12:12 AM
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Circular Reasoning. That was the term i was looking for. Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:16 PM
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Your idea of "good men" seems pretty idealistic. From what you post, it seems like you're working backwards in your logic to try and say what a "good man" is to you - instead of the fact that they're actual humans with positive and negative ideas and traits. Extremely unrealistic - and super presumptuous really
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:14 PM
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Reading comprehension goes crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:43 AM
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Not trying to stir the pot with negativity, and I definitely don't think this is everyone, but it's so weird how some posters here will go so hard with the gaslighting. There's a lot of weird shit that exists in the manosphere but this isn't really one. I think they're doing themselves and others a disservice by straight up black-and-white denying the phenomenon. I'm just gonna leave this here - ignore the click-baity title: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4FhArHbiD0&list=WL&index=18 I think th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:30 AM
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You could bring all the evidence in the world to them and you'll still gonna get some form of "Well, actually, I don't believe that" or some other excuse - just know when you're arguing with a wall lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:09 AM
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Love to see happy stable relationships. This knife behind the back shit is lame
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 09:40 PM
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Don't marry a man if you're this scared of men - some of you guys are pathological. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:15 PM
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This is just one of those instances where guys have to pick better. Communicate your wants to your partners. I won't say that this isn't a common phenomenon, but people gotta stop having this "it is what it is" attitude when it comes to relationships and stand on something. If you want a partner that will make an effort for you on valentine's day - don't date anyone that won't make an effort for you on valentine's day. Who cares about what the rest have to say? Ignore them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 12:33 AM
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It’s just manipulation. People like to strike people where they think it’ll hurt most to exemplify some form of control- maybe control they don’t have in other areas of their life. Best best is to let it roll off like water on a duck. Probably not a good idea to let most negative things people say affect you deeply. You’ll be a sad puddle, permanently
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:15 PM
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Threads here? You mean to tell me you've never been exposed to this trope culturally? Never seen it in books? Cartoons? Like damn, you’ve never seen mean girls? The stereotype of the Quarterback/head cheerleader being mean is extremely common and that’s just an easy example. Like to the point where people purposefully subvert it in fiction now. A lot of the time people who look good can get a big head or think they’re superior, but of course it’s its a stereotype. To imply you never encounter it…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 11:23 PM
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The first one yeah - but the second one no. Shooters shoot, period. The dudes that really run game are approaching any and everyone - mostly women they only want to run through and dump. Rejection is nothing to dudes that approach anyone. Love bomb for a few weeks, smash, repeat. A dude approaching a woman definitely does not mean he's more interested in a long term relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 11:34 PM
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I think I'm missing what that has to do with the above comment chain
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:15 PM
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"Unconditional love" is about as useful for defining something as any other buzzword term now. What exactly does unconditional love mean to you? Because I'm sure not everyone in here has the same definition in mind. Unlimited patience? Unlimited forgiveness? Endless catering? Acceptance of any of all flaws? Many people can do all that and more for their partner. But it seems a lot of people here see their partner as less of a teammate and more of an opportunity. If you can't - or don't want to -…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:57 PM
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This is about as bad as red-pillers trying to dissect women's behavior. Guys do not work how some of you think they do (also not a monolith, etc, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:50 PM
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Yeah that ain’t what’s usually implied by playing nice but aight
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:43 PM
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Ay it’s rare but I just can’t do it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:13 PM
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Why you gotta manipulate women to get their panties to drop though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:31 AM
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I mean as a man I don't wanna be around a woman that complains all the time either
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:20 AM
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Damn, great comment
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:40 AM
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That’s fair.. I think sometimes people expect to be able to dumb all of this on their partners routinely with no resistance. I don’t think that’s realistic at all. It gets tiring
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:38 AM
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I definitely don't think mistreatment of men is the primary goal of feminism but TRUE
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 12:12 AM
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Dude, I see you slipped in sexual abuse. Ya'll are the most insincere bunch, I swear. Please feel free to argue with someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 11:43 PM
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There's no lock on any space. I think you're misinterpreting my meaning of "space". Just use "forum" instead then. Also, you're wrong. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:37 PM
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Not a fan of the red pill stuff, I think it mixes a lot of self improvement with a lot of false truths. But - I think what hooks a lot of young men is the fact that it'll supposedly land them in a better spot than before. They're desperate, and people turn to whatever when they're in that position. Some spaces that are not necessarily redpill(?) like looksmaxing forums still fall under the umbrella. But I also see this on the women's side as well. Although they're usually downplayed here, there …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:36 PM
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You hurt a few feelings in here, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:03 PM
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I gotta agree with the poster above you, it really seems like the fun guy from your example is gonna fall in the friend category 9 times outta 10 if you compare him to the other guy - especially if the other guy isn’t completely devoid of social grace
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:45 PM
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Nothing wrong with that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:36 PM
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I feel like the negative aspects outweigh the majority of the aspects that could be seen as good personally - we shouldn’t need any sexist or manipulative aspects packaged with: “Hey, value and take care of yourself no matter what your social norms say.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:12 PM
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>To confirm, you think these highly intellectual researchers focus on male online rhetoric just because “bias”? I think you somehow squeezed the worst possible interpretation from my post lol. But yes - as a scientist who's had to mess with statistics, including statistics that include race as a factor - yes, modern science is STILL nowhere near and never will be, bereft of bias. It's actually expected. These "highly intellectual researchers" are not infallible. And it's not like they have a "to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:58 PM
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I didn’t even quote the violence section of your comment though right? We can both agree there. Why the hell would they focus on male rhetoric and not female rhetoric if it were equal? I think you’re using logic to go from a conclusion to a reasoning. Not a great idea here. Something can be a problem and not be taken seriously by most people. A man could say something harmful to a women and a woman could say the same harmful thing to a man - would you agree most people would see the man has doin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:42 PM
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I wouldn’t be the one that needs to prove anything - you made the initial claim. What could possibly be your source? That’s why it’s insane when people pull the “men are worse / women are worse” card and purpose it as fact
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:04 PM
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Her point is that the incel pipeline evolves to more violent and vile statements more than the women pipeline does This is just straight up bias dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:49 PM
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You wrote this up better than I ever could
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:42 PM
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Members of the other gender that you’re close with usually tell you to watch out for the worst possible things they’ve seen from their gender. Of course. Dads tell daughters watch out for men and moms tell sons to watch out for women. Most of the time they’re projecting. The people that run rampant the most always have the most to say about the “true nature of men/women) Like you didn’t notice your bf said he said he had sex with a girl early on and HE lost interest? Dude he’s talking about hims…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:39 PM
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>And also a crystal ball to make sure her personality and/or values do not change in the future. This is the big one
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:16 AM
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Wasn't this just posted like a week ago? Anyway, some questions, for anyone that agrees with this - What exactly is a long-term relationship to you guys? Just a fun opportunity to entertain yourself? How much do your partner's feelings matter to you? What if kids are involved? If there was no abuse involved How do you know your relationship won't get better? What are your time-frames? Whenever this topic comes up here it seems some people are more worried about being labeled as "the bad guy" tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:10 AM
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>Biblically, even looking at another woman with lust is cheating on your wife. Interesting line of reasoning. I think I might see where a lot of the disconnect on this sub is coming from. >Very regularly, I say I am conservative. It brings men outrage when I say conservative women don’t want to be with men who hate women. Personally I definitely have a lot of respect for people that stand with their beliefs. I understand the thought process, but I don't think watching porn means you hate women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 05:47 PM
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I'm sorry that happened to you, but that isn't relevant to our comment string..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 05:29 PM
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Women being killed is obviously insane and terrible, but the need to insert it every time men bring up that women don’t take rejection well is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:49 PM
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Never said it doesn’t happen - I think it’s terrible when it does. The perps should be under the jail. But these are grown adults making grown adult decisions. When it comes to porn it seems like most of you have a straight black or white hood or bad picture in your head. It’s not immoral to be able to actually look at individual instances and determine if a situation is bad or good. What about porn that isn’t M/F? What solo porn? Is every solo onlyfans creator being coerced or manipulated? I be…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:56 PM
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Aww thank you 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:38 PM
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Some of you guys' tendency to associate porn with women getting abused says a lot about your views on women's sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:14 AM
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Room temp iq is being unable to conceptualize other people needing advice you wouldn’t necessarily need. If it don’t apply let it fly, you doing too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:27 PM
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He’s not saying “stop trying” he’s saying shift it from the majority of your focus - the way it seems to be for a LOT of people. The way the ladies say decenter men - decenter women. Put them on peripheral (relationship wise)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:06 AM
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The literal next sentences: But with the basic ratings so out-of-whack, the two curves together suggest some strange possibilities for the female thought process, the most salient of which is that the average-looking woman has convinced herself that the vast majority of males aren’t good enough for her, but she then goes right out and messages them anyway. Just to illustrate that women are operating on a very different scale, here are just a few of the many, many guys we here in the office think…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:37 PM
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Yeah I’m pretty sure women do that way more than men. The majority of men aren’t even rated as average to many women (in the US). A movie is… a movie, idk what that has to do with this
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 12:40 PM
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There are plenty of women who say things like that. But some of us have the mind to not attribute these people to the majority. Every time I come here I see men and women doing the same paranoid shit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:18 AM
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From what we’ve seen I don’t think most women’s idea of looks match =\= most guy’s idea of looks match…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:02 AM
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I'm not romantically swayed by someone being kind. I'm not swooning for Trader Joe's cashier because he was kind to me. 🙄🙄 That’s not what I was saying at all. That happens with some people but it’s not even a gendered issue… And is it the bare fuckin minimum if there are so many unkind people? Real kindness is rare and valuable. What’s it less than? Looks? Intelligence? Everything can’t be touted as “the bare minimum”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:34 PM
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That… doesn’t correlate at all, I think you misunderstood somehow. Also, imagine thinking that looking for good character traits is crazy 😂😂😂 like tf do you do? Your track record gotta be crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:42 PM
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Seems like many equate “able to get laid/ get a partner (especially girlfriend)” with “good”. “Not able to get laid/ get a girlfriend” with bad. Then they’ll logic backwards from the conclusion. “He pulled her, her must have ______, money, good dick, status, etc - because she chose him” “He pulled no one, must be because he _____, nothing going for him, is gay”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:14 AM
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Good shit, nice write up
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:13 AM
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Yes, kindness is an attractive quality to most men. The hell? 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:06 AM
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Like what? You want us to post r/nicegirls or something? What’s the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:22 AM
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Could you define what “real kindness” means to you personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:19 AM
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Don’t mean to slut shame but yeah, there does seem to be some weird correlation with a higher body count and mental stability and a good relationship track record. For guys and girls. Yes my source is anecdotal
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 03:29 PM
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Yeah I’m not trying to downplay it, just sharing a pov - I do think trying to constantly live according to other people’s standards (which literally constantly change) is a greater nightmare, personally
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:34 PM
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>They’ll fill out a few “easy” prompts (f.e. height) and copy-paste some cringy one-liner in the bio and leave it at that. Either completely skip the “hard” questions (politics, religion, wanting kids or not) or choose the most wishy-washy option possible (moderate, agnostic, not sure). >I’m gonna be honest, I don’t get it. Do you really think this helps you with matches? Or is it just you truly just don’t think that stuff matters / don’t care about it that much? LOL meanwhile, in the dudes feed…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:41 AM
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What breed?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:24 AM
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Honestly at the end of the day with dating it's the luck of the draw. You've been blessed with a good personality, morals, and it seems like a good degree of self-confidence. Many people will try (or not) for those things their entire life and not hit the mark. Validation from women is cool and all but yeah it's definitely not a barometer for "good" of a person you are, but unfortunately many great guys will base their "value" on that. And vice versa for many women as well
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:02 AM
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Do you think you're a nice girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 03:40 AM
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Exactly, it’s everyone. And no one exists in a vacuum. A drop in men’s mental health affects women, a drop in women’s mental health affects men, a drop in adult’s mental health affects children, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:59 PM
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Literally all it takes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:54 PM
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Didn't make what? When'd I ask you for advice? You can be in a relationship and still notice the weird bullshit single people have to go through
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:27 PM
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Source: Literally seeing that mess all the time Shit my female friends say they don't find the the vast majority of men attractive INCLUDING many of the men they go on dates with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:19 PM
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Your looks? At their peak. Men are most attractive when they're young, and that’s the cold, hard truth. After 25, it’s downhill.. Find a woman OR man above 18 that finds no one 30+ attractive. This seems like one of those posts that are retaliatory but end up in the same slop heap with the “women’s peak are early 20” posts
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 03:03 PM
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I feel like most of us wouldn’t even touch a rollo podcast, dudes a manchild
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 01:11 PM
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Nothing's stopping you from looking for these clear examples that are readily available for you... but I know none of y'all will. We see most of these behaviors day after day. Claiming it never happens just makes you guys look bonkers
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:55 PM
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Again, you can do the same with women on social media platforms. And you can find videos of people calling them out for it. Men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:37 PM
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Y’all say this about any negative behavior. You’re biased. Simple as
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:35 PM
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Spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:11 AM
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When someone wants to try and hurt a man and they can’t fight him for whatever reason, they’re gonna go for his manhood. -Doesn’t have a lot of sex -Gay -Short/Small dick Idk what planet the people who say “I never see this” live in but just know it happens all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:00 AM
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Nah, I’ve definitely done it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:06 PM
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Some people only fuck people they actually like, or think are cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:01 PM
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Yeah I feel 9 times out of 10 the bio rating ain’t outweighing the looks rating, for most people
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:00 PM
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If the two people have different wants in terms of when they have sex then they should just split amicably. This doesn’t even have to be an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 01:25 PM
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Negative spin was in your first and third paragraphs. “Okay just ignore what people say then. I’m sure that will work out great for everyone” This feels like a bit much “So most people are lying by default until proven otherwise” I don’t think many people would leap to that conclusion from what I wrote. But let me add an “always” to the “most people don’t”. “Most people don’t always.” Better?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 10:54 PM
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Seems like you put a real negative spin on my comment. It was supposed to be pretty neutral. But whatever works for you dude, I’m definitely not telling you what to do. I was just giving a personal anecdote of why relying on receiving direct, honest communication might not be the best solution here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 10:04 PM
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Why would this even get brought up? And if you’re afraid to be honest with a future partner, what are you dating them for? Go talk to therapy. Some of y’all are way too jaded for the dating pool
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:49 PM
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You know we have this thing called "language," yes? IRL we can use it to ask what people are looking for It’d be great if people said what they meant and meant what they said. But the majority don’t. People lie. Some don’t even know what they want. It’s a stereotype / running joke in the dating scene for a reason. Words mean next to nothing without action to back them up. You can determine how people feel about things by watching what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:45 PM
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You did this to yourself!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:07 PM
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I think it’s very easy. You just have healthy boundaries and self control. Good communication so you’re on the same page. If people can’t do it I think they may just need to work on those things
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:09 PM
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Completely agree OP. People can’t separate the want and the need. The desperation is partly what drives people away
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:06 PM
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If you cherry pick a place with examples like that, you can make anywhere fit your accusation
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 11:59 AM
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>It shifts all accountability from the abusers and places the accountability for the abuse squarely on the survivors. I don't think the vast majority of people do this. We (typically) hold ourselves and others accountable for our actions, behaviors, and the result of those. I don't think this is exactly the same, but most people acknowledge that people with substance abuse problems are engaging in harmful behavior, and still feel sympathy or want to assist them if they can. Also I can understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:29 PM
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There are many women that approach, but yeah most won't. Nervousness, massive ego's, (selective) adherence to old-school gender roles. Do you count online interactions or DMs as shooting a shot? Cause social media really opened the floodgates on women approaching. Go online to a comment section of a video with a conventionally attractive man. Bonus points if he's got money
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 12:35 AM
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I hate to be someone that brings in the opinion that it’s superficial - but yeah. Just like people feel offended when an unattractive person approaches them in public or on dating sites, a friend she considers unattractive is more likely going to get a negative response. Fuckbuddies exist. If she finds you attractive enough to have sex with and is someone that has casual sex, you’re not going to run into that issue
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:28 AM
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Where is he bragging? Claiming that he's attractive isn't bragging. Also, for the other three questions - he never said any of that. The jumping to conclusions is wild. He said if you're attractive you don't have to be good in bed to get partners. Thats it. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 09:38 PM
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It doesn't have to be a flex to tell it like it is. You don't have to be good in bed to get men if you're an attractive woman either
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:51 PM
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There are very few “points” in life. I’m guessing you mean “what does she get out of staying”? What’s the “point” of doing anything you don’t enjoy? Or anything that doesn’t provide instant satisfaction? Do you only do things you enjoy or that help you? Enrichment? Growth? Patience or grace for her partner? That’s up to that person. Their choice. My issue with OP is that she wants women to also be congratulated and patted on the back because they left a relationship in which they’re treated well…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 07:50 PM
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“If you have no kids, there´s honestly no reason not to leave your boring, unappealing husband/boyfriend and seek a better life Debate I am tired of women being shamed for leaving their boring "nice guy" boyfriend. Trying to FORCE yourself to be attracted to someone in the 21st century is just silly. We only live once.” This is what OP said. This is the scenario she described. Not what you very generously interpreted from what she wrote. One partner finds the other boring and unappealing. That’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 07:35 PM
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An opportunity for two loving people to make a promise to commit to each other. It really isn't that hard, but apparently half the people in here can't fathom the idea of putting another person over their own immediate desires. Wild
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:58 PM
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Huh? That's literally the point of marriage? Why wouldn't yall just stay single if you don't want to commit to a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:52 PM
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To be fair all she said was boring and unappealing, idk if it's reasonable to interpret it as miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:51 PM
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If you personally want to live selfishly and without any concerns for anyone else, including your partner, you can - nothings stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:42 PM
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I think it's wrong, but I don't think most people have the capacity to take things on a case by case basis. Easier to lump everyone together out of ignorance
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:27 PM
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I think most men will probably prioritize the woman who gives them signals above anyone else, at least initially
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:15 AM
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And even more still don't have any charges or complaints files against them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 10:20 PM
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>How is this any different from feeling like it's your responsibility to put down imaginary women you don't know anything about? Who? Where? Why? What women? >go back and forth with me about shit i've seen in person Read above - also add mothers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:15 AM
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Ma'am I don't know why y'all feel it's your responsibility to explain away the wrongdoings of women you don't know anything about but I assure you, plenty exist in real life. I'm not gonna sit here and try to make any of y'all believe anything you want to cause I know it's about as useful as talking to a brick wall, but I at least ask you show the same respect and not try to go back and forth with me about shit i've seen in person
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:39 PM
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I sure as hell don't hang with em, I'll continue to watch from a safe distance
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:24 PM
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The vast majority of women will grill a man for crying. That's bunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:09 PM
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I’m not implying your last paragraph, at all, where did you see that? I just know some aspects of sex aren’t something people delve deep into early on in the relationship. So how is he gonna know any thing until later?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:47 PM
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That’s fair, I guess guys going through this need to look at it as fundamental sexual incompatibility and assuming their partner finds them unattractive. Ido think a lot of the time it probably comes more from people comparing themselves to their partner’s exes and filling in the blanks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:45 PM
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Question for the ladies, if you found out your well-to-do man used to get his partner lavish gifts, cook gourmet meals, and never let her touch a bill - and with you he chooses to do none of that because he doesn’t see the point, how would you feel? Or for the ones that’ll say “oh well I don’t care about expensive things”, say he made handwritten love letters, or gave you massages every day or something else you enjoyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:10 PM
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Wanting your partner to change is weird, and per usual, y’all don’t blink an eye unless it’s the guy asking the women to stop doing onlyfans or something
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:48 PM
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Same. Sorry you gotta deal with that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:57 AM
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I think a big hurdle that many people run into in their late teens and early adulthood is trying to find a niche. Like women may be encouraged to get married quickly and have children, men are told that they need to work hard and make money so they can provide security for their family. A lot of them are told to put their head down and grind. It's probably harder to develop a strong sense of identity because it's built for them and shoved into their hands. Interests are usually tossed to the way…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:22 PM
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Men are told they have a greater responsibility to get their own mental health in order Also a big part of men's mental health struggles come from lack of identity / clashing ideas about whether or not they need to fulfill a specific role or not Also money
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:00 PM
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Have y’all tried not being boring yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:22 PM
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Male stalkers are more likely to inflict violence- but female stalking seems to be very normalized. There’s a girl that was stalking Jim Carrey for years after a (presumed) mental breakdown and a lot of the comments from the girls are like “Aww she seems great though” https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8FjP7fJ/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:00 PM
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I’ve had a good number of female friends confess, and I still can’t imagine feeling much more than bummed out and guilty that I couldn’t return the feelings, much less like they “betrayed” me by telling me how much they liked me. Like what
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 04:00 PM
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There are women with kids that haven’t been on a single date in their life
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 07:30 PM
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You all do it constantly. Don’t be hypocritical 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 12:46 PM
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Half of this mess isn’t even true. Love the incel energy coming from the women lately though, y’all are really killing it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:27 AM
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Y'all would be in for a rude awakening if you woke up as a man and went around looking for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:10 AM
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Damn, TRUE
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:07 AM
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In this sub are the only people i've seen that thought telling people to vet was akin to victim blaming. But we don't have to agree
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 01:17 AM
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None of these are unreasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:51 AM
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You don't know me from a can of paint tbh. I'm always there for my people. But you can have empathy for others, and yourself - while acknowledging issues and taking steps to making the change. Unless you're like, a kid. Then you got a pass. Get out your feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 08:32 PM
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Idk much about red-pilled but I think it's weird that so many of you could have such a negative response to "choose better". It's like getting bad grades consistently and not making a change. You can't just blame other people and not reflect on your own behavior or choices every time one of your relationships go to shit. A lack of accountability is going to see you in the exact same position over and over again. Some people straight up just don't practice discernment when it comes to dating. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 08:21 PM
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I don’t think feminism =\= this, misandrist idiots are not the whole of feminism. But I do agree with the deny, deny, deny tactic. This is so common. Also there’s a ton of content by women about men on tiktok that would be labeled beyond redpill if dudes made it. With hundreds of thousand if not millions of likes
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:11 PM
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Nah. My comment was that you seemed to think female arousal is much more complex than men’s. And okay
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 06:51 PM
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This is how your attraction sparks maybe - plenty of women and men can look at someone and be attracted. Some women and men don’t feel that level of attraction until something is “sparked”. It seems like some of you want to be on the men=sexually simple, women=sexually complex, but I think that may be coming from a place of ignorance
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 06:37 PM
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It seems like every time we bring up things we’ve seen we get ladies in here saying “I’ve never seen this, women don’t do this” verbatim. Idk if this is some kind of desperate gaslighting but I’ll give some of y’all the benefit of the doubt. If you don’t see this in person you can find plenty online. I gotta do stuff so I’ll try to type this in quick bullet points. This is obviously NOT ALL WOMEN -Looks: Pretty self explanatory. Women rag on men for putting weight on women’s physical experience.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 10:55 PM
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You'd be surprised. I've met a lot that end up married with a daughter, then are overprotective cause they're trying to protect her from guys like him
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 09:50 PM
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>or develop a deep-rooted hatred for men if that desire is not met. They do not say “men are irrational beings with unrealistic standards that only 5% of women meet. I am a wonderful woman that men should be fighting for. I will not change anything about myself because it is men who must change what they’re looking for.” Be fr. We've LITERALLY seen and heard this
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:44 PM
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This is the new form of coping that tiktok has enabled
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:35 PM
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Come on now. That statement has more holes than swiss cheese
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 05:45 AM
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We can remove that specific scenario then, and there would still be a ton of examples
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:22 PM
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“I hate men cause _” “I hate this man cause _” still obsessed with him, still trying to date him, still trying to hookup with him, still trying to make him jealous This is friends, associates, coworkers, online posts, online videos, etc People talk a lot of smack but behind closed doors a lot of them are slaves to their insecurities. And biology I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:19 PM
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Your guy friends are idiots, and probably seriously misogynistic. No offense
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:12 PM
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Must be human nature, I see it from women daily
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:10 PM
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When y’all are this cut and dry with other women about their issues more men will probably more receptive to your advice - I think your post is mostly right though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:07 PM
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Be financially celibate. Your wallet your choice
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:08 PM
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You can try and say “let’s eat healthy and exercise together” but most of the time they’re self-conscious and already very aware of their weight. For many that turns into “you think I’m fat? You don’t love me because I’m fat? I don’t have to change for you”. Your partner helping is cool, but we gotta be responsible for ourselves
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 12:33 AM
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I feel like the worst is if she really isn't in the mood for it - like imagine a guy really gingerly and hesitantly going down on you. Bad vibes! Definitely don't let anyone persuade you if you don't want to!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 01:44 AM
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You're free to handle your pleasure as you like. I'm not gonna argue with you there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 05:54 PM
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>No one would expect men to stimulate their own penis during sex. I'm thinking we might be from different backgrounds. What I'm hearing you say is something I've heard from people from more religious or conservative backgrounds that have a disconnect with their own body. If you aren' t comfortable, maybe you'll need to learn to get comfortable with your own body. Many men do stimulate their own bodies, especially the lower region, during sex. That's like, the point of sex toys. And many women DO…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 05:10 PM
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Every sexual encounter doesn't have to end an orgasm. Neither of you can have an orgasm and you can be fulfilled. I told someone else here, if your sole idea of sexual contact is penis in hole till man gets orgasm you're doing yourself a disservice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 05:05 PM
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I wouldn't look at C stimulation as masturbating. You're just providing additional stim yourself. It's necessary for some people, and not for others. Everyone's body works differently
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 04:49 PM
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I'm a man and im telling you your partners just suck. So you can feel right and unfulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 04:18 PM
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>Orgasms are the goal of sex. Men wouldn’t be satisfied is sex ended before they orgasmed. That's a very simplistic view of something that doesn't have to be simplistic. If your idea of sex is "Penis in hole go in and out until man orgasms" yeah your sex life is probably going to be boring and unimaginative. Building sexual arousal with touch and other senses, foreplay, fantasy are all sexual tenets/acts and aren't orgasm. But your sex life is what you make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 04:07 PM
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Cumming is not all men have sex for. Y’all are making the disconnect about people’s pleasure and sex very apparent. Many of y’all (men and women) don’t care about your partner’s enjoyment
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 03:27 PM
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It is, and yet so many do it. AND complain. Like pick a struggle
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 03:16 PM
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-not good at blowjobs -can’t ride for more than ten seconds I know a lot of you have said “but men can’t take feedback” have you eeevveeerrr heard of a women taking feedback in terms of sex well? Ever? Even once? They will shut down forever, or feedback will be flipped on us. And everyone thinks they’re fire 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 03:08 PM
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No father and daughter love? Sibling love? Love for parents? Happy couples? How do you rationalize this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 02:16 AM
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No, but that alone definitely won’t make anyone like you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 03:56 PM
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I think maybe we’re more sensitive to being repulsed by a terrible personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:18 PM
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Hell yeah they do. “I let him smash”, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:51 PM
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Your average man isn’t hot enough to get women based on looks alone. Where are y’all every time we bring up the “average man looks” talk? The threads are always full of “I’ve never seen a woman say that 🙈”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:47 PM
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Right, we agree there
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:47 PM
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I think he’s pointing out that it can be seen as weird that when it comes to having sex, one of the most intimate acts to most people, many people are good with laying down with someone who treats them like nothing. And when you’re going on a date, something laid back and fun, many people are expecting to be treated like they’re royalty in 1800’s Britain
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:19 PM
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Just the ones that aren’t worth dating, if you don’t have terrible self worth
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:59 AM
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You can not mind doing it and all and think it's dumb that it's expected. And think that other men shouldn't have to do it if they don't have the means. Do we like gender roles or do we not like gender roles? All this picking and choosing is predictable and cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 02:54 PM
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You're not a challenge. You're a brick wall. I can just walk around you. Don't need or want anything from you. We done here?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:01 AM
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You want someone to go back and forth with you on an internet forum? For what ma'am? To convince you specifically? You want us to beg you to care about a cause? What good will that do? Less than a drop in a bucket. There are plenty of people that don't that listen in good faith and give constructive feedback that my time would be better spent on. Much less arguing. And no offense but you seem like the type to argue just to argue. Look elsewhere if you're looking for someone to beg for empathy or…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 01:51 AM
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You coulda saved all that. No need for me to participate in the petty. Have a good one
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 11:36 PM
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>Who is y’all? Guys here keep whining about men’s rights, but dont ever want to face that the men in charge are the problem. No, they would rather bitch about women. What men in charge? We don't elect men's rights leaders >When women, gays, and minorities had problems, stood up to the government. We are not seeing that with guys. Who stood up to the government? Many of us were there and are here STANDING WITH YOU - you mean to tell me whenever there's dumb shit like prop8 or the overturning of R…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 11:21 PM
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Why are y'all so insistent on playing petty olympics with each other? You can't expect people to want to fight for you and treat you well if you don't want to do the same for them. Full stop. Y'all are backwards rationalizing why you don't want to support the rights and feelings of the other gender, starting from the fact that you straight up don't like them or care about most of their struggles. We learn the golden rule early on as kids
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 10:23 PM
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I definitely agree there
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 09:10 PM
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We see those sentiments everywhere though. It's not just even TwoX on reddit. I'm not understanding how people see incels and online misogynists on reddit, tiktok, and youtube as such a big problem but are somehow blind to the femcels and online misandrists on reddit, tiktok, and youtube. Suddenly it's "not all women" Also, women are much more comfortable with going in on men in public than the reverse. It's common to hear it from friends and family and none of us bat an eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 08:29 PM
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Some may have an advantage in sex, relationships, and dating - but there are plenty women around the world that don't, to say the least. And there are some important areas of life where they get the short end of the stick (safety comes to mind). I think we are still adjusting socially in the US. Women have a lot of new benefits and much more freedom from traditional gender roles, but men are still trying to get there. One thing I am surprised to see is many women's insistence that men adhere to …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:47 PM
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Any issues that dudes commonly face. Girl problems are like the number one problem all men can relate to. (And I'll stick to dating to stay on topic) Most problems guys talk about here - aside from straight up "I hate women! They're dumb!" - are not just like "Incel problems" or things only a subset of guys face. MOST guys run into these problems. Young, old, poor, rich. We talk at work, the bar, family gatherings, over the phone, same as anyone else. Same way anyone else shoots the shit and de-…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:00 AM
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Yea, we are
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:42 PM
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Complaining is just another way people get heard, unfortunately. It's a type of communication - this one of an issue they're facing. You said complaining as a man will lead to nothing - okay, but you can BOTH complain and take action at the same time. I see a lot of people touting that "real men don't complain" mess and I don't think that's cool. Some people may be focused on themselves and that's fine, but there are young men growing up that shouldn't have to deal with mess either. If someone d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:38 PM
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Most of us don’t even want all of this. I swear the way y’all talk about men’s preferences sound like redpillers talking about Gigachads. Can we touch grass please? Christ
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:37 AM
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Context clues dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:35 PM
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Sentiment
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:16 PM
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I hear the same from my girl friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:05 PM
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>My thinking is: if less guys are in the dating pool, there are less options for women. Less options mean less competition among males. Less competition means males put in less effort to woo, to approach, to make a move, to plan dates, to impress, etc. it's a race to the bottom and that's bad for society. Seems like market correction. We're swinging the other way from a long history of women getting shit on in relationships. But younger men now are just seeing "Holdup. I'm expected to do a lot f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:41 AM
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>She’s openly promiscuous, but she also seems like the kind of woman who would take care of her man. The kind of promiscuity men usually complain about the sleeping around type, not the wearing skimpy clothes type. Skimpy clothing usually gets women unfairly characterized as someone who sleeps around. >Promiscuous women tend to be more attractive and, honestly, a lot more caring. They’re often more accepting of vulnerability and don’t put you on a pedestal the way many tradcons do. This is just …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:28 AM
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That's be great, but we're still stuck arguing over whether paying all of the bills is the bare minimum for a man in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:19 AM
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Many men would take bad sex over nothing (can't say I would, but yea) - and do. There are a good bit of women aren't good at sex and think they're the shit. They just see sex as the man performing, and them playing the passive pretty pillow princess role. Some actually think them being good at sex = them being physically attractive. And yes this is men's fault - men want sex so badly they will almost never bring up the fact he thinks she can do better
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:18 AM
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Feminism =/= man hating. There are feminists who hate men, but there are non-feminists who hate men too. Some people have understandable reasons, some people don't. Best case scenario all men don't get lumped into one box, but some people straight up lack the empathy, intelligence, or foresight not to be sexist or racist. Being interested in women's rights and social development does not mean you hate men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:59 PM
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How did the backlash (hundreds of videos of other women hating on her)skip onlyfans creators and conveniently land on a girl that twerks for like four seconds in her videos. Now everyone wants to whinge on about chastity and decorum It’s completely unhinged. Pure mean girl jealousy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 03:15 AM
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That’s sarcasm friend
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:21 PM
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You’re JOKING. There’s no way that’s how you interpreted that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:42 PM
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I’m talking to a friend right now going back and forth with him about whether or not he should send this paragraph to his girl about how she’s been making him feel. I feel like the fact that we’re even trying to figure out if it’s worth it or not is wild
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:15 AM
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You can say too many people do it and leave it at that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:48 PM
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Can’t it be possible she’s shitty as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:48 PM
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I’m with you on both and I’m also still sighing at the stupidity to do this, cause visible harm to yourself, and then wanna bump it up to 1000 men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:47 PM
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Probably on men and women, since when they try to call it out (just talking about the times they’re respectful) they usually get called misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:43 PM
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"We all" meaning both men and women deal with these types of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:24 PM
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Women definitely have it harder in terms of safety. I think men have it a bit harder in terms of everything else - but many of these things we gripe about in terms of the other sex, we ALL go through. People cheating. Abuse. People wanting to be taken care of financially. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 03:45 PM
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I agree about many redpill beliefs reflecting it pretty bad. To the point many are obsessed with women and their behavior. On the flip side, as a guy it’s hard to believe that it doesn’t exist after seeing things go down. It’s weird because it actually does damage to women as well. Socially and possibly even legally - most of us have probably seen bias toward women. I don’t think that it’s women’s fault though. This is definitely one thing that’s on men. And just like most men both knowingly and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:21 PM
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Hence "as well..." ...?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 07:53 PM
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It doesn't seem like most of us don't attach to romcoms like most women do, no. Some of us havn't even seen one
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 07:49 PM
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“hygiene, obesity, not living in their parents basement playing fortnight at 36).“ A lot of women hit these marks as well
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:26 PM
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Fuck no
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 12:17 AM
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I think too many people don't see their partners as fellow humans with flaws. Just objects that can do things on their checklists. People's icks outweigh actual detrimental red flags
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:48 PM
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Why come on here to be bad faith and low effort? Why not let the people who want to give actual answers talk?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:53 PM
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What do compassion and empathy mean to these two people? Holding your partner and reassuring them when they need it? Always being available to listen to their day without issue? Ready to help them with any problem without complaining or judgement? Being able to intuitively know your partners needs without them saying 100% of the time? Being forgiving? Giving grace? Being kind to everyone you meet? Feeding the homeless on the weekend? All of the above? None of the above? Communication is needed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:02 PM
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Most words have standard meaning and can be interpreted a ton of different ways, based on who's doing the interpreting, their situation and viewpoint. You know this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:56 PM
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Being a man’s peace doesn’t mean she cant raise her concerns, share her opinions, argue her point, and push back whenever something is on her mind. These are very broad and can be interpreted just about any way. Do you have examples? Because there are good and bad ways that we as partners can do these things. Being a partner’s peace is not a gendered idea. Women say they want a man to be their peace all the time and a lot of us look to do that. But every time we ask for something that might even…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:32 PM
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Yeah pretty sure the issue is that you guys see as that, and what we see as that are totally different
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:26 PM
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I see it all the time, and I've seen other men frequently talk about it too. Same ones saying that the average men isn't on par with the average women. Can't give you evidence of the in person talks, but you can probably find a lot of instances on social media or blog sites
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:29 PM
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But friend, the majority of women say the bar is on the floor for men's looks. They have zero issue critiquing men's heights, weights (under or over), imaginary dick size, bad skin, choice in clothing, choice in hairstyle, etc, etc, etc But people are preaching up and down this thread that women are just naturally nice and agreeable? That women are kind to each other just because they were raised better or conditioned by society to? And on the flip side, if a women decides they DONT like a women…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:52 PM
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Yeah many of these same people would tear into most men with no hesitation right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:30 PM
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We don't get it nearly as bad, but yeah, we're frequently told women don't want community dick either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 04:07 AM
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I used to before I realized it was such a stupid way to live 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 09:21 PM
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Guess it depends on the circles you run in. Most of the people around me don't want kids
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 04:05 AM
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Isn't the percentage of adults in the US without kids around 50% and growing? What about all of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:58 AM
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Some definitely do, but I think because of the some of the traditional gender roles - I've met women who couldn't wrap their head around that their boyfriend might want these things too. Planning dates, giving gifts, providing emotional support. They were so used to not giving and not hearing anything about not giving. Same with men and their gender roles. People even still go back and forth on the dumb 50/50 vs provider man thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:10 AM
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Agreed. It hurts women for all of those reasons, and hurts men in some ways too. It knocks us all back in terms of progress. Less partnership, back to traditional gender roles. Women less free, less connected to the world, vulnerable to abuse - men angry, overworked, feeling unappreciated, more abusive https://www.snf.ch/en/HTIYFmVEjJyqgfkE/news/conforming-to-roles-increases-mens-risk Probably higher rates of suicide in both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:36 AM
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You never said “only men” but you only talked about men in your post. When you make a post about a certain behavior and introduce gender, you imply that you’re talking about certain genders doing certain things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:16 AM
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Why do y’all think that only men complain about the friendzone?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:22 AM
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Thought this was implied by my first post. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 09:23 PM
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It doesn't help her case, but I actually like cleaning and having my place spotless. I don't mind doing the vast majority of household work. But like I said, the positives outweigh the negatives for me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 04:13 PM
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That could be true, I don’t doubt you. But know there are plenty of people that complain just to complain. And if there’s nothing, something will be created
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:33 PM
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Everything except not having a job i can deal with - the other things make her her 10/10 status
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:21 PM
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I’m guessing you’ve never had to spend a lot of time around a nagger. It’s not always about things not getting done, it’s about them always wanting something to nag about. You could be carrying the relationship in your back and they’ll still say something (this is not gender specific)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:16 PM
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“Even when the relationship can survive reaching that breaking point, guys like that go back to not listening when he thinks the relationship is safe.” Yeah unfortunately so many guys do this cause it works. Like every time. Just had a friend that went through this. We told her too
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:13 PM
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I have once, thought she was going through a rough patch. That tough patch started way before me, eased when we were together, and started right back up after we broke up. Never again. Side note - if you date a broke girl, don’t complain when she does broke girl things 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:27 PM
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You're right. Young men really need more dick discipline. (Although I don't think all of the wanting for a partner is sexual - a lot of it is emotional longing) They do it to themselves unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 06:07 PM
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Men doing better will result in even less relationships than before. They're going to be financially independent, emotionally and mentally stable, reliable, confident, a protector, someone who takes care of their family and friends, and aware of their traumas? Why would they want to deal with someone who isn't even close to their level?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 05:14 PM
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I definitely wouldn't, personally - but I think the issue a lot of people go through is competing against the idea of a perfect relationship. Doing that over and over can't be fun, especially when they sing your praises, cant be fun
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:32 AM
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To be fair though, a very popular thing going around now is the "It's okay to leave him even if he's perfect" position
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 02:18 AM
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“My snatch is drier than the Sahara” Speaking of cringe ass shit I need to know why some of y’all feel the need to say shit like this. Seems like you ain’t so far removed from high school yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:32 PM
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This is one of the best answers I've seen here if not the best. Thanks for your thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:21 PM
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Accused of not having sex with women specifically. Don't like a man? A man won't have sex with you? He's obviously gay
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:08 PM
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You aint wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:38 PM
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I'd personally would go for everything she wanted, and then add a little extra so there's some semblance of surprise and it doesn't just feel super unnatural, but honestly what I would do isn't a very helpful point. I wouldn't compare what I would do to what my partner would do, or what this dude did. I don't know their financial situation, time situation, or anything else about logistics. I don't know if he had something else planned or anything. Before a few days ago I didn't even think that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:38 PM
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One thing that got me about this story was all of the video responses with women saying that him not doing what she wanted was the equivalent of and I quote "Him hating her" and that she deserves someone "that does everything she tells them to" Like does this not seem terribly off to anyone? Treating your partner like a butler? Do y'all even love each other? I can understand being disappointed, but honestly as a dude I can't even fathom a situation where I'd be mad at my SO over not doing exactl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:55 PM
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Yeah but if you have a good head on your shoulders you can do like women and still greatly reduce the real estate that has in your head. Bringing balance to your life and getting a rein on your impulses sure as hell doesn't hurt, and the ones that can do it will benefit If you're a slave to your impulses then you've lost
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:48 PM
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That's one of the coolest things I've heard of in a while
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:57 AM
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Most are probably frustrated because they want to leave but are taught to cope and manage early in life. Most have some sense of duty - but some men's sense of duty comes a good place like care of family, and other's comes from wanting to adhere to masculine standards. So some, in an unhealthy way, try and push those feelings down until they bubble or rush to the surface in various unhealthy ways. Which almost always leads to an even worse situation than before. A lot of men, and a lot of people…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:51 AM
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Now that’s facts. I do it sometimes because some people un-ironically think things don’t work both ways but at the end of the day it’s just adding mess to the pile. I’m getting a lot better though 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 06:10 PM
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You don’t feel you’re coping just a but by claiming you’re only here by moral crusade?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 06:04 PM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:55 PM
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Thanks for sharing bro
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:38 PM
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I wouldn’t say fail, but just like how not all learning styles may work great for all people, the some of the more common modes of therapy (talk therapy) can see many men not respond to it positively. Because of how we were raised / environment we grew in we all have different challenges
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:37 PM
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Dirty macking Sabotaging you and the new girls relationship either by trashing your or her reputation to you, her, or people in you guys’ vicinity Sabotaging you and the new girls’ relationship by making things awkward by being overly pushy “You guys are all over each other! Are you gonna kiss!?” Etc Bringing up either persons old relationship info to make things awkward “He/She doesn’t deserve you” all the while trying to get with he/she Etc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:45 PM
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Agreed, but I think we have to admit that context is important, because a lot of men do expect their women to cook for them. So it can come off as a weird question , especially if people jump to conclusions Not saying what anyone should do in their relationship, that’s their business
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:49 PM
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People getting cheated on is one I guess. People you don't like - "they're trash, once a cheat always a cheater etc." People you like - "You deserve better anyway. You were already mentally checked out months ago so it doesn't count. They weren't paying you the attention you deserve." A better one could be hints/signaling. Somebody likes somebody, or want attention, so they flirt. If that person addresses the flirting, that person can hit back with "I don't know what you're talking about" - if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:05 PM
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Nah, a lot of people just get straight up lied to and gaslit. A lot of people (especially women) don't want to feel like the bad guy in situations, and play the plausible deniability or victim card
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 03:58 PM
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This is kind of a side note but seeing people’s comments about the dating show for autistic individuals is interesting. Most people agree they come off as great, kind people but if you took a poll on who’s actually date them - I feel like it’d be pretty low.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 02:57 PM
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I've definitely seen this. Although I think this is more of an opinion right? I know a lot of us younger men cringe a bit when women our age talk shit about us, and prop up older men that are more established or have deeper pockets. But I don't think it's that deep. They're free to think how they like I guess. We don't have to fuck with them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:40 PM
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Echo chamber filled with people who are suffering from neurosis, just like the incel subs
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:00 PM
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I think consideration of your partners needs is great and necessary, but feel like there also should be a consideration that your partner has a whole life of their own, and their own problems to deal with - so they may not ALWAYS be totally in tune with your needs when you want them to be. So in those cases I think it's messed up to be mad or frustrated with them, especially when you have the ability to communicate your needs. Also, we DON'T anticipate all of the needs of a baby or pet - because…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:49 PM
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But you’re not a pet nor infant, and shouldn’t be looking to be treated as such
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:45 PM
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We hear it all the time. Even from women who aren’t our significant others 😂 I do want to say anyone saying this is only* a woman thing - is bullshitting. It’s an immature thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:44 PM
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Huh?? This comes off more as “this isn’t my problem so I’m not going to really worry about possible outcomes” Like, great for you, happy for you,everyone isn’t so lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:16 PM
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At all?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 02:50 AM
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Reddit has subs like TwoX, created to give women a safe space on a male dominated site, that unfortunately turn into hate-fest echo chambers - and also... the classic he-man woman hater clubs. Honestly it just looks like the girls are trying to catch up. It sucks to see but I hope it helps people see that both genders are equally stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 02:02 AM
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Nope. Those who get it get it I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:07 PM
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Nah, they barely know you, and they’re judging you off of something stupid and shallow. Using how much women you can attract as a legit metric to judge someone is obviously insane when you think about it. And if those people are dumb enough to use that to judge you, what value is their opinion really? Thankfully not everyone is like that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:15 PM
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You don’t need to change people’s attitude. Do you value your well-being or people’s view of you more?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:28 AM
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Men have to like the woman more than she likes him or he has high odds of attempting to cheat on her. One of the ways to know a man likes the woman more is he is willing to ask her out. Sounds like podcast knowledge tbh, I’ve seen insecure men and women say this trying to avoid getting cheated on. If they’re gonna cheat, they’re gonna cheat, trying to determine “who likes who more” in a relationship is wild. If you have to do that, why not stay out of relationships? And then people get cheated i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:25 AM
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Feel you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 07:08 PM
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That's fair. When i've talked to some friends about it they mentioned they still have conflicting feelings about attention from men. On one hand it can be detrimental and dehumanizing, on the other sometimes it can feel good and you can gain from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 06:59 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 06:56 PM
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I guess some men put it in hell for women, and some women put it in hell for men. The people who have standards are the ones losing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 06:47 PM
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Plenty do, with good looking dudes (ain't hating, as they should)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 06:36 PM
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Underrated
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 06:30 PM
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I agree that we shouldn't care what the other gender thinks like that... but let's be real - most women care about their image in men's eyes, like most men care how they look in women's eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 06:30 PM
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What you said earlier is perfect, if she’s vibing with you she’ll love that. I think there are a bit more withdrawn women on Reddit so they kind of have a view of what they and their friends would do and project that over most women. You’re the the one steering the interaction, so you shoot the shit however you see fit, since you seem respectful. How they respond is on them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:27 PM
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Are you good with the man divorcing the wife and trying to care for the child afar/part time?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:48 PM
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Righteous cruelty is the worst. Ironic seeing as you’re jumping to such a dramatic judgement of them off of a few comments
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:43 PM
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This topic and the responses in the thread seem way more rooted in biological determinism than most of the other topics here. For some reason the comments give really weird cuckoo vibes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 04:42 AM
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It seems like one woman’s “good casual partner” is another’s “playing boyfriend”, even if you’ve said the same to both about not wanting a relationship, unfortunately. Some are okay with texts, eating together, checkups as a casual partner and some aren’t. I feel like if people stopped trying to look past explicit verbal communication we could solve like 99% of these issues. If we say we’re not looking for a relationship, and we were in the same page, whyyy does “what are we” keep popping up?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:49 PM
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Honestly it’s so common it just seems like something gen z / millennial women use to bond. I don’t even think it registers anymore (for some) they could be affecting men. Whenever I’ve seen a man in real life say something if something said offended him, they usually act shocked, make an exception for you or men in their family, or act mildly annoyed and say that men’s egos are fragile. Or if you ask them to explain their arguments come apart pretty quickly. I don’t think most of it is malicious…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:34 PM
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Many teach based on strong religious or cultural tradition, but many fathers here don’t know exactly what to do - neither did theirs. They may teach their son based off the the trauma they received from their father or lack thereof. But with this, dating, most older guys are usually lost because there seems to be no pattern when dealing with women. Most of our fathers have completely given up on trying to make women happy. And minus the sexism that probably stems from decades of rejection, what …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:19 PM
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I think a lot of people feel backed into a corner right now, and are looking for any avenue that might offer relief. Especially now that a lot of blame is going around. People's worldviews aren't vibing with the election results and statistics. Although its rarely the move in todays world, we love lumping big groups of people together and slapping labels on them. I'm definitely guilty of it myself. But I think that this is just another one of those moments. Many women can't fathom such a large p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:31 AM
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I definitely agree. Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:31 AM
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Treat it like you would any other situation with someone that you're not dating. If you offer to make plans, and they do nothing to help you schedule around their busy schedule, drop the plans. If they don't offer an alternative, consider dropping them. You wanna pull the eject early on or deal with that mess throughout your marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:18 AM
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If snide remarks made you choose DT over Harris…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 11:17 AM
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I don't see anything wrong with feminism and feel that misandrists should still be helped/protected. But misandry is still cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:50 AM
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It could be that most of these men and women are meek in real life and use the internet as an outlet to bully people because they feel powerless. But these are our neighbors, friends, etc. People’s in public persona / behind closed doors, in a relationship persona
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:42 PM
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You’re not inferior. Things like RP have little nuggets of truth hidden in a swamp of trash you have to wade through. Same with most of the dumb “dating advice” women listen to offline. They target vulnerable people and break them down so they can build them up into followers. Divorce from the online dating advice, and id also advise leaving here if it’s anything but shits and giggles to you. This shouldn’t have any bearing on your outside life
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 01:43 PM
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In the US? At least between the ages of 20-30? Absolutely They usually don't (as in far less than men) communicate it directly though. They love the indirect stuff, swear to god. Also many who have, unless you're close friends, will say they haven't. I guess it's a reputation thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 07:35 PM
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I think the wording is important - we can argue it's okay to do almost anything but... Placing that happiness over the wellbeing of your relationship, family, etc. is probably not something most of us would consider "ok". When most people make vows, they promise to be there through sickness and health. That goes way beyond "I just wasn't feeling it". Seems like loyalty, accountability, and sacrifice has left the building. If they avoid development and growth, that person will likely just jump in…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:42 PM
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We all know that there are plenty of men that are "bad" at sex, especially if they don't prioritize their partner. But how many of yall have heard a woman say that they're bad at sex? Is that not an obvious part of the problem? Many women don't even know their own bodies, let alone how / be comfortable enough to communicate what gets them off to a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 09:42 PM
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Does your husbands friend have extremely low self esteem? Or did she begin to be abusive later? Seeing nice people in that position is the worst. It’s like puppy getting yanked on a leash
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:55 AM
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Most married men claim that their happiness becomes, by far, the least important thing in the household (especially after you have kids) Usually I hear if you keep your wife happy maybe she’ll yell at you less. Sounds… lame
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:32 AM
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🗣️🗣️🗣️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 06:30 PM
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Prioritize yourself after you identify who YOU want to be. Place less weight on other’s opinions if you’ve thought them through and they don’t make sense for you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:14 PM
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I think you’re 100% right. A lot of young men are getting a lot of mixed signals at an early age, and that surely makes it harder for them as they get older. I can’t even fathom what those from deeply religious households go through. Looking for validation from women will ironically mess you up
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:13 PM
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Well that’s up to the individual to decide ain’t it? Not that the judgement is gonna be useful for anything than.. judging
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:36 AM
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Everyone is free to determine what is and what ain’t attractive to them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:15 AM
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They also say she's one of the hottest women on the planet. Different strokes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:57 AM
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This is not everyone* One thing I hear a lot from men is that many women feel like they basically do not need to bring any effort to a relationship. So if you’re independent, and have all of your needs met, a relationship feels like more of a job than a privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:13 AM
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Holy gaslight
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 12:26 PM
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No ones arguing with telling people to brush their teeth or exercise occasionally. This is obviously not about health tips you learn as a child. "Posture, Hygiene, Voice, Effeminate physical gestures, Desperation and neediness, Communication, Assertiveness, Temper, Being too emotional, aka, inappropriately over emotional and investing too much without cause, Child like physical gestures, Indecisiveness" Voice? Effeminate physical gestures? Child like physical gestures? You telling me you didn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 10:14 PM
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That's fine, if you speak for yourself. It makes no sense for you to try and claim that for everyone. There are plenty of men and women that are pushing things like gender norms or roles on other men and women, and are getting the appropriate pushback in return, depending on the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 09:46 PM
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The whole issue is y'all trying to enforce your preferences on random people who ain't even trying to talk to you 😂 why not keep your preferences between you and the people that are actually interested in you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 09:32 PM
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Only thing I believe are the exact things I wrote
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 03:42 PM
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This the mess dudes be talking about… who are you to say how men should be acting? Men and women should not be telling each other “you’re too feminine” and “you’re too masculine”. “I don’t like that behavior you’re doing, it’s a turn off”. Y’all sound insane. Mind your business. You ain’t perfect
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:41 PM
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Southern US. Plenty of sugar babies and IG model types around but I ain't interested and the people I know don't run those circles like that. The women that are treated are just "regular" women. Regular jobs. Healthcare, IT, etc. I've personally never asked a woman for a dime in my life, and have always paid 100% of dates. I can't knock your experience.. but I guess my environment is extremely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 06:57 AM
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Idk who the average women you know are dating, but the ones that i've dated and know have dated men were treated to dates nearly 100% of the time. The guys usually do the asking, so the guys usually pay. This sub is the only place I've ever seen a claim like this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 04:53 AM
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The majority of women don’t get a dime from the men they date Come on now..
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 10:22 PM
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There are extremely toxic female dating channels / pages that are on par with redpill. For those of you that haven’t seen them, they’re usually short form, low effort, more popular in apps like tiktok. But while those exist, there are plenty of positive male and female dating channels. The positive ones usually don’t focus 100% on dating (hint), but self improvement. There is a skew from female channels where it seems like the message is more to love theirselves more than the male ones, but I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:20 PM
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There are extremely toxic female dating channels / pages that are on par with redpill. For those of you that haven’t seen them, they’re usually short form, low effort, more popular in apps like tiktok. But while those exist, there are plenty of positive male and female dating channels. The positive ones usually don’t focus 100% on dating (hint), but self improvement. There is a skew from female channels where it seems like the message is more to love theirselves more than the male ones, but I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:20 PM
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Honestly I think this is one of those topics everyone’s just not gonna agree on. Just don’t get into a relationship without discussing these things if it means that much to you - and don’t switch up and expect your partner to fall in step when you change your mind. It feels like both this and the body count topic come from similar places of insecurity, but to each their own i guess
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 11:53 AM
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I’m guessing people attack others moral failings like that because it’s more socially acceptable, and gives some social credit on top of that. It’s devious imo And my bad * NotAllWomen
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:57 PM
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On a similar note, when pushed on the whole “women want bad boys” topic, guys just admit they want the quantity of women that bad boys have. So how are you gonna complain about women not wanting actual nice guys when all you want to do is be the bad boy? Agree with most of your post. But you just answered your own question - they don’t wanna be the “bad boy”, they want similar attention from women without having to be. Same way women want similar attention from men as women they call vapid bimbo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 12:10 PM
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That’s true - game isn’t even the same for everyone. Some guys go blank slate and turn into a straight up chameleon- not giving off a until he can reflect what the woman wants based on personality culture, age, etc. That probably works on the super impressionable. Some guys bulldoze the situation with their personality. This then dude that comes off overbearing. Def the type to rely on getting girls drunk. Weird af to see, this mess works but usually he’s the guy women says they say they regret …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 12:32 PM
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There are plenty of confident women.. VERY confident
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:08 AM
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You right
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:26 PM
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No, you WANT men to want to meet your standards. You can set whatever standards you want - for your own relationship. What's weird is you trying to coerce other women into shifting standards with you as sort of a power play, to affect men that have nothing to do with you. Now if men aren't meeting your personal standards, according to your "rules of nature" mess, YOU are doing something wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:23 AM
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Yes, plenty of low income households. I didn't say they were well off. The norm for a lot of people. We probably grew up in vastly different circumstances. Still doesn't change the point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:15 AM
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That's fair - but that seems more unlikely than unrealistic, especially if you're fit yourself. Don't know many fit people that want an overweight/obese partner
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:11 AM
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It's not. And yet I still know of plenty of households making under 100k. And again, many women are looking for a man to make the majority of the household income. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:08 AM
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It's giving old man yells at cloud. The attributes you brought up for people to improve themselves are all conveniently tied to men attracting women. Gatekeeping sexual pleasure so that men act how you want is weird. If you really care about people improving themselves, you'd probably find a better avenue. Again, Otherwise stay outta people's bedrooms. This ain't the 50's
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:02 AM
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Nearly 1 in 3 adults (30.7%) are overweight. More than 1 in 3 men (34.1%) and more than 1 in 4 women (27.5%) are overweight. I just pulled that from google And $100k is not even enough to support a family. If my family’s net income (dual income) is not above like $200k, then I am not having kids because our kids would have a lifetime of struggle. In my area, most people make well over $100k. If I go to the backwoods of Arkansas then that changes. All we're talking about is the standard for men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 03:52 AM
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Lowkey weird that you're relying so much on shaming tactics here. The dudes that get these are not gonna give half a damn anyways. The life-sized dolls are a bit creepy but people use sex toys. If you wanna cry out about banning some, stay consistent and try to ban em all. Otherwise stay outta people's bedrooms. This ain't the 50's
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 03:37 AM
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Wanting someone not old or overweight is not unrealistic, especially if you're not old and overweight yourself. Those are nothing. You never brought up any of the other common standards, when you brought up your percentages - Salary - What percentage of men make over 100k? Hear that one a lot Height - What percentage of men are over 6ft? This one too Living Situation - Men are also usually expected to have their own place more often right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 03:30 AM
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I think that if they’re judging compatibility for a relationship, anyone should be able to look at their partners past and judge it as they like. Just respectfully reject them. It’s not for anyone else to say “you can’t judge them on that! Have some compassion!” Nah, you can judge them on whatever. It’s your relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:43 PM
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This only seems to be a debate on this sub, I don’t think I e seen anyone anywhere else argue that sexual contact isn’t a human need
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 12:35 PM
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They’re appealing less to the women that they’re in contact with, that’s it. The issue is, a lot of men equate that with being inadequate. A woman/ women liking you shouldn’t be a barometer for your self-worth. And same to the ladies that feel that way
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:44 PM
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Orbiters are manipulative and feign a deep and personal interest in their female friends’ lives while attempting to weasel their way in or change their minds. They also spend a lot of time attempting to undermine their friends’ relationships and talk badly about the men those women like. Do you feel this way about all female orbiters as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:52 AM
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I think we need to dump this female gaze mess before it continues to spread. Men can do helpful things that will improve their lives and make them appeal a little more to -high quality- women, but curating photos on your OLD profile.. ain’t that What you gonna do when y’all meet face to face?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:36 PM
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But the male voters cared about their families which included wife & daughters. Doesn't mean they all supported their right to vote Did it? I just looked up the suffrage movement. Seems it took 70 years. The plight of women's right to vote didn't begin with the U.S women's suffrage movement
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 09:24 PM
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No, especially not in a vacuum. As long as people are respecting their partners and not using sex as a coping mechanism that’ll bite them in the ass later on I don’t see what the problem is
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 08:21 PM
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This, we (usually) take steps as a whole to ease our neighbor’s suffering. We can care / make moves on topics that don’t directly impact us. I don’t think women’s choices in terms of sexual partner should be placed on this weird pedestal where people orbit around it and measure their worth based on it, but I’m definitely not for throwing “unselected” men into a pile where no one cares about their lack of connection unless it about their connection to making money
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:27 PM
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Says Victoria Woodhull ran on the platform of women’s suffrage. She was one of the first, if not the first to run for a major political office in the US. She probably knew she had no chance of winning. She got no electoral votes. She was running in protest Why would it take all that hundreds of years of activism and protests if no one cared of women voted or not? The right to vote wasn’t just simply handed over. Politicians care about their VOTER base. If you can’t vote, you hold little politica…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 12:10 PM
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Took us hundreds of years to have even have the chance of having a female president, let alone other significant roles in government. A whole ass gender with little to no representation. There are definitely numerous significant roadblocks that women have to go through not only to be seen as a viable enough candidate by enough people to be elected, and that’s just talking politics. Plenty of people, men and women, just straight up won’t elect a woman for office. I volunteer for political canvass…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:11 AM
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This thread ain't gender warring enough for you or sm?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 09:30 PM
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Nah I don't think so at all. I've been to a few places and talked with more than a few people for work. Toxic people are everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 09:24 PM
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Is sexual compatibility all of a sudden only important to men now? You don’t even have to touch grass to know this is bunk. Men are guilty of a lot of things, but this ain’t one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 08:04 PM
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Yeah, they are. And will continue to
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 01:51 PM
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Not at all. My bad
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 01:51 PM
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The people in self pity mode aren’t looking for the means to be as attractive as possible to the opposite sex at that time. They’re looking (sometimes unknowingly) for empathy and encouragement
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 12:55 PM
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Raise your self esteem and you won’t see it as cope
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 12:20 PM
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unstable men act IN AND OUT (hurting themselves and others) unstable women act OUT AND IN (hurting themselves and others)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 11:48 PM
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There’s no acceptable reason to cheat. None. It’s selfish and honestly, cringe af. If you’re unhappy, leave. NOBODY - man or woman, good partner or bad no matter how y’all wanna try and spin it, deserves it. And claiming it’s usually less “bad” when woman do it gives cheaters another avenue to try and be why they’ve done nothing wrong. Chill with that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 10:10 AM
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We know y’all are obsessed with porn and pedophiles but the subject of paternity fraud literally had.. nothing to do with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:05 AM
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Yeah? There are amazing depressed people and terrible happy people. Just using happiness as a metric is wild
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:43 AM
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exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:19 AM
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This is an even better analogy. You cooked here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:40 AM
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Why not just use the literally equivalent example of her being paranoid about her man cheating? How often do you think that happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:37 AM
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So no shit tests when someone's feeling insecure in the relationship either right? Cause you're doing a lot of grandstanding about an extremely common relationship dynamic
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:35 AM
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Only if the only thing he cared about was having more sex - which going off the description, it ain’t. Caleb’s a loser to anyone with sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:34 PM
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And i'm sure your cues will get you the appropriate response
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:33 PM
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If you tell someone to leave you alone - expect them to leave you alone Communicate like an adult - share the issue, or say you don't feel like talking right now. No one, man or woman, wants to deal with a toddler as a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 08:57 PM
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Thank you, master of rhetoric 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 04:22 PM
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Some people call it Giving them a chance Not that rare
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:38 PM
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I don’t think of them as rejects as all. I have relatives and older friends, men and women, met through work that have been through bad relationships or situations, who were hurt bad enough that they gave up indefinitely. Abuse, bad divorce, cheating, etc. Most of them are extremely kind and insightful. Desirability doesn’t really even factor in. It’s just an aspect of life that they don’t want to deal with anymore. Fairly sure it’s a much larger percent of the population than most would think. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 12:20 PM
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Such a balanced, well-thought out answer
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 12:11 PM
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Gotcha. That’s fair imo
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 11:07 PM
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Isn’t that the same as whining?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 11:05 PM
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You all are assuming she’s an ideal girlfriend. That he still managed ti get a girlfriend. No one is considering that the TYPE of woman that would be with a man like that long term is not going to be the cream of the crop. I actually assumed the opposite, going off of the guy she picked. I was going to type out a sentence on that but thought it would kind of obvious from what I wrote, cause I didn't want it to seem like I was attacking her directly. My comment was just that her decision to stay …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:21 PM
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But, here’s the thing. She wouldn’t still be with him if he wasn’t capable of changing. Nah. Only way you could determine that if is you assumed she was definitely making the best choices relationship wise. Which might not be true going off of the original comments. People pick and stay with shitty partners all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 01:54 PM
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I can’t believe I’m defending her but you think she’s trying to get picked… here? This is common knowledge to most adults. We’ve even discussed this topic here
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:26 PM
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I’m convinced this is less about and morality and more about people trying to date their own anxiety and paranoia. And the tighter you try to hold control over someone, the more likely they are to wanna squeeze out. You’ll more likely cause your own nightmare
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:08 AM
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There’s so much porn that’s just… a picture of a naked women or man. Nonviolent to say the least. But if I the argument isn’t that someone’s getting exploited there’s another reason it shouldn’t be viewed. And another reason. And another reason. And “oh yeah I read erotica but that’s totally different and high brow, unlike the degenerate filth others engage with” I’ve never heard of and the rage against it always seems disproportionate to the problem. The war on porn from the church.. the church…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:48 PM
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I think the reasoning and the way it’s gone about is important, but I think it can easily be a sly way to introduce sex as manipulation into the relationship dynamic. “Treated right” to some people means lavish dates and getting their bills. If you’re honest about that, and that’s what both parties want, cool. But if the person can’t be honest to their partner about their intentions, I feel like that should set off alarms. And if you have to dangle sex over the guy to make him act right, maybe h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:09 PM
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Yeah, for you guys, agreed. Being comfortable in a situation should be bare minimum for everyone involved. But some people straight up say ~Yeah I’ll make a man wait because that way, I can get him to treat me better. Not everyone has pure, heartfelt intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:21 PM
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nobody makes a man wait I believe you guys here, but plenty have said that they do I recommend to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:37 PM
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I think these are good ideas, but only for people with the best intentions. The rest would just go back to Tinder or w/e
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 12:21 PM
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This is basically the equivalent of a guy saying women never pay bills. Ya'll gotta touch some damn grass
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:56 PM
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If it was the only the posted content, sure. But the loads of comments agreeing say otherwise. Social media can cause so much brainrot, but it's also good for showing how many people believe it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:49 PM
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At what point do you personally feel it becomes fetishization, rather than someone expressing (or just having) attraction towards someone? It seems like there are more men that are attracted to a larger percent of women than the reverse. So I can understand some negative feelings. Is it when it comes with lack of respect? A disregard of the person’s feelings? Or when you’re not attracted to the person supposedly fetishizing you? Is sexual attraction always fetishization? I don’t mean for this to…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:19 PM
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If you see a dude that you know can walk in a room and just about every women, including those with partners are gonna just about break their neck to stare at.. that's what they're talking about But he also has to have masculine traits that women like. No squeaky voice, confident, etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:04 PM
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A lot of guys get worked up when they see things like the trends of women saying a guy is too nice or something as well. Looks get you in the door, easy, but the guys are also having their career, car, living situation, (determined by the individual) un-masculine mannerisms picked at pretty harshly. It can be hard to find someone and not be discouraged when you're looked at like a very long list of boxes to check. But I DO think if guys stopped caring about what most random women thought about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:12 PM
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Well It’s not the arguement I was making either. And of course “picky” is somewhat up for interpretation. But it’s not a total crapshoot. We use context and comparisons to gauge things and use the appropriate adjective all the time. Opinions are valid, but I think people can generally also sus out delusion pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:11 AM
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Having a few standards for a partner isn't the same as being picky
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:31 PM
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Most people can easily give both encouragement and help with tangible changes, if they care enough about the person. And some people don't even want tangible help. Like the people that get mad at their partners for offering concrete solutions to their problems instead of letting them vent. But I think we usually give encouragement so that people can begin to moves to better themselves. Not everyone needs it, but yea if someone's in a low place they're gonna need someone to be emotionally empathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:25 PM
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People asking for acknowledgement about issues they face is bitching?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:05 PM
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Sure happens all the time in certain countries. Women come to have “relationships” with much younger, more attractive men with less money than them. And honestly, ask how many teenage guys were introduced to sex by women in their 20s/30s. Ain’t nothing new. If the guy can’t offer money or stability, guess what he’s around for? And dooont hit me with the “Well maybe she’s just attracted to his youthful outlook and flair for life” y’all cap way too much on here. Now the uptick thing, im skeptical …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:49 PM
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Age ain’t gonna change that much - you might be considered less attractive than before, but now you’ll probably have less-attractive-than-before men hitting on you instead of whoever’s hitting on you now
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 11:47 AM
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Most people are not going to be apathetic enough to completely ignore every insult thrown their way, even if it's untrue. That's just not how the vast majority of people work. You'd be hard-pressed to find someone that agrees with you on this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 05:46 PM
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True true, no idea why
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 05:28 PM
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This is just a shitty situation you have to deal with regardless of gender. It's common for like... everyone. One think to take note of is your own behavior, and if there may be destructive trends in your own behavior (if you're constantly in this same situation), but another thing to note is that people are not going to like you more the more you're devoted to them. People want what they want when they want it and that's it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 08:35 PM
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SUCH A DRAG I think if we all were a little more honest and secure we’d be so much better off
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:14 PM
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I think people are hypocrites. Dumb statement I know. The difference is I think men are a hell of a lot more likely to acknowledge this and make changes. It’s like most women would rather go to the grave with a lie to avoid admitting fault and looking bad/being shamed, but most people can clearly see through the bs. So now you’re at fault, bsing, and weird. Like most of us grew out of that as young kids. Please get out your feelings and look at your behavior! You’re stunting your growth
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:57 PM
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Fr. I think these games people play come from insecurity. People need to stand on their shit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:44 PM
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It is your duty to shame overweight women into changing themselves for the benefit of society Nahhh come on now 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:41 PM
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Man y’all are literally proving his point
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:36 PM
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You don’t have to doomscroll to find incel content, or racist content. These expressions aren’t obscure, and they really shouldn’t be surprising unless you’re legit new to the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 10:13 PM
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Nah he’s right. People legit say this. The men not existing thing is a hell of a lot more common than the baby harming one but I’ve seen all of these and more. People are unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 10:10 PM
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Most people aren’t as well versed in sexual health as they think they are. Many issues like this are psychological and get compounded because the person think there’s something wrong with them. In reality, peoples bodies just don’t all work the same. Unfortunately as a man, you may run into people who think you’re not totally on go all the time there’s an issue. Give yourself the grace you deserve
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:03 PM
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As it is, tons of men still believe in chivalry / benevolent sexism. Whether or not benevolent sexism / treating women special is a net good or not is a discussion for another time. Chivalry is still expected from men although it’s probably taken a downturn due to the social climate most of us here are in - a major one according to online posts where many women saying that men are no longer jumping up to help them with their bags, or always offering their seats on transport, or walking street si…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:43 PM
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People are more likely to help their neighbors and friends than strangers. I don’t think we should be comparing modern standards of community protection to past standards. People have their own families to go back to- and it seems like this is something that is extraordinary, that is now somehow another example of “bare minimum” for a lot of people
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:23 AM
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Just stay away from the women who complain all the time and are attracted to conflict. Vet before you get involved. Is it easy? No. Doable? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:00 PM
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Honestly yeah, when it comes down to it. I don't think it's exactly a great standard to stand on, but I think things like this are good to have in the back of your mind when you're vetting someone for intention. I think it's the same kind of thing if we're talking about a dude that wont commit over a certain period of time. Taking everything into account, if they ain't making the leap, they're probably just not into you. Save yourself some time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:06 AM
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Nah, I think it’s a great point. But I do also think that whether it’s the girl or guy approaching, it’ll play out like it plays out. It’s not like the guy approaching first means he’s any more interested in anything beyond sex. I’ve seen women approach and get played, and guys approach and then woman gets played (guys get played sometimes to but that’s not what we’re talking about) Also, happy relationships can come out of either. And I shouldn’t even have to mention this but we don’t all have …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:36 PM
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Yes and they’re amazing people
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:26 PM
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🗣️🗣️🗣️ I’m with you, if you don’t want to break up a family don’t start with a broken family
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:28 PM
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Honestly in the spaces I'm in, most of those people ain't even socially awkward. Just loud and wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:34 AM
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Maybe, but it seems so common. It's weird because I rarely encounter people who have super extreme viewpoints like this offline. Idk if it's people trying really to make a point, venting, or what
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:16 AM
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There are women who unironically believe this though
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:05 PM
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I think it comes down to shots taken as well. I think most women are going to take flirting as interest even if there’s no interest on the guys side. So if he’s popping off at everything he’s bound to hit something. Based on attractiveness they’ll miss some shots, but also hit some maybes and yeahs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:46 AM
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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNc3QdFA/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:15 AM
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But if you want a relationship then it's better to wait with sex because you want the guy to stick around and not just leave once sex has happened. Which happens a lot. I feel like that's just baiting him like a donkey with a carrot though. If he wants to stick around because he likes you beyond having sex with you, he will. If sex is the only thing keeping him around, why would you want him as a partner that much?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 11:11 PM
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Most of the comments think her reasoning is insane, first of all, and.. If this was a true story (it isn’t) She ends up having to pay FOR THE BOTH OF THEM just so she could get out of the situation. Nah, she chose to pay and leave. Because she thought he was cheap. Cause he didn’t get cheese on his burger. That’s it. She wasn’t in danger, he wasn’t a creep or offensive. In terms of the story, who tf wants to date a rude, socially-inept person who acts like a child? In terms of real life, who wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 04:14 PM
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People argued over this dumb tiktok like a year ago. The situation doesn’t make sense because she made the whole thing up for the followers and engagement she knew she’d get from the fake outrage
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 03:59 PM
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