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The only women Ive known that dont work and do nothing all day/dont do any childcare/cooking/cleaning...are: women married to obscenely rich men, like near-millionaires women married to richer men and have usually severe mental health issues. My SIL is the second. Her ex husband makes 400k+ a year and she has 3 kids 7 and under. All 3 are in school or (expensive) daycare and she has a helper the rest of the day. She doesnt work or do anything all day that is productive. She does spend money on h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:27 PM
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You cannot win. Either a woman divorces (usually after trying a lot, walkaway wife is definitely a thing as men are more likely to become complacent in LTR's) and shes bad for that, or she stays when she is not into him anymore and then she is "using him" or "betabuxxing him" or putting him in a deadbedroom situation when really she is Low Libido for Him. Essentially men who are like this simply want women to be ok with and even happy with bad behavior. Its the same thing with the "pick better" …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:05 PM
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Your first sentence here- right back at you!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:13 PM
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...most of these couples met online. A guys overall attractiveness is more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:56 PM
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I am almost 37 and regularly get hit on by younger men and called a MILF.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:10 PM
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I know of no "height gaps" and really if you are coming across this often with women you meet, your woman picker is off. I know tons of shorter than average guys (5 ft 10 is the average height in my country) that are married or in relationships. Heck, 3 of my tall female family members married men shorter than them. Plenty of women dont care about height as less than 1% of men are shorter than the average female. (5 ft 4)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:09 PM
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I agree. Even men who are wealthy, I found much older men a turnoff in my 20's because I couldnt relate to them and it was so icky they were so interested in me for my inexperience and looks. Also older people tend to hold a lot more baggage and that was a turnoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 03:25 PM
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Yet the overwhelming majority of couples in this world are matched with looks. Go to your local Target. This is also verified and replicated countless times in scientific studies. Its more likely you shoot out of your league and are mad about not being successful. Overweight people get together all the time, overweight women do not have high looks standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 07:17 PM
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Im against pretty much all age gap relationships where it seems its occurring due to power reasons. Which is the overwhelming majority of the ones I have observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 05:02 PM
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Very few men nowadays do the traditional masculine chores, I agree. Very few men chop wood, do harder yardwork, are handy, fix cars etc. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 04:49 PM
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Ive never been at an unhealthy weight in my life (except for the first 3 months after my daughter was born) and have had men nitpick my body no matter what it is, so your first sentence is completely wrong. BMI of 18-20 "Your stomach is great, but your boobs and butt could be bigger" (boob fat is genetic) BMI of 21-23 "Your stomach is good, your boobs and butt are pretty good but could be bigger" (this is after serious dedicated weightlifting for my butt, again boob size is genetic and I cant he…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 04:48 PM
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Hmmm my friends and I do. You likely picked one without hobbies to reinforce your beliefs and also, less for you to compromise on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 01:51 AM
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Yes but you have to do the same for her which requires compromise
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 12:03 AM
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I agree, there is a male user here who posts and replies often that many other people here, mostly women, feel sorry for him as he describes himself as shy and comes across nice in his replies. But once or twice he described having a woman "too good for him" and how he "ruined that relationship" with his bad behavior then gave examples. Then continued to lament "women dont give him a chance."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 06:40 PM
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She cannot win either way. Women are criticized no matter what. They are criticized if they do or dont have kids, they are criticized for having one or too many kids, criticized for being a stay at home mother, part time or full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:42 PM
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"childless women tend to become codependent with their nieces and nephews" Literally none of the childless older women I know do this. Sounds like cope to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:40 PM
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And why men should insist on condoms all the time but they won't. It feels better for them without
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:06 AM
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I'd say this is more likely to be successful but not always. Several of my male friends are completely different people in romantic relationships versus friendships. I dont get why but they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:26 PM
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For me when I was single, I preferred the second or meeting someone at an event via friends, the second one never happened. I had the first happen to me twice. The first time, the guy was wonderful but moved away. The second time, it did not go well but to my defense, the friends that set me up really lacked emotional intelligence and I have no idea what was going through their head when they did it (they even admitted his problems after I broke up with him).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:24 PM
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But they dont want "close friends" they prefer women to fill that void.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:22 PM
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Or reference convenience samples...convenience samples are like the Bible: you can find a verse somewhere that supports whatever you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:20 PM
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Where do you see this as the default? I'm genuinely asking. I dont see it in 95% of places.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:20 PM
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There are a TON of influences involved, thats literally her point. You wish to ignore those influences to support your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:19 PM
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There are way more men on the Internet than women, thats why everywhere, not just here, you seem more bashing of women. The rare cases of not seeing this are women tied subreddits that are liberal based.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:17 PM
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You have confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:17 PM
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There is a ton of nuance in all statistics, its unrealistic to expect a single study to account for everything. I feel the only statistic Ive read about genders where there isnt nuance is regarding sexual violence/physical violence. Men simply are the more violent and sexually violent gender. Everything else has nuance. That divorce statistic has a ton of nuance factors -it only measures who files at the courthouse. Divorce lawyers often advise on if you should file or wait, its a legal tactic a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:12 PM
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Hm I havent really seen that. Knowing a man voted democrat makes me like him more, even if he has other negative traits I really dont like. I think the only time I see this is in feminist subs where men are voting democrat because they want a hookup culture of easy sex to be the norm and view being a father as a burden. Men who truly vote because they feel women should have control of their bodies dont get called "pick mes"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 05:58 PM
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Took 7 years to find a compatible match who ticked my boxes and felt the same. But yes I'm happily married. We met off of okcupid in early 2016
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:56 PM
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For me, yes I needed it and preferred men greatly who did as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:33 PM
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No, it can't hide asymmetry, alter facial features or bone structure very much at all. The average woman is not skilled enough for this dramatic of an effect and if they try it's obvious irl! and looks bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:31 PM
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Those are not 95% of women. 95% of women aren't makeup gurus. I wouldn't let those online videos influence your views of women irl
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:29 PM
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Women work full time like men yet still do the majority of housework and childcare and planning/mental load, women consistently meet the higher emotional standards set in relationships compared to men in terms of social and emotional intelligence and women overall act like better parents (because we are held to higher standards). False. Women do all of this while putting more effort into our appearance because "men are so visual" despite its much easier for us to be overweight compared to men. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 07:20 PM
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Only 35% of men consistently pay court ordered child support. Im a social worker and worked at a Child Support enforcement agency during my graduate school years. The average child support payment does not cover the cost of a child. Y'all focus on top 10% earning men with your statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 06:53 PM
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All the ones I know are, except for a few who have pretty obvious mental health issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:11 PM
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The male loneliness epidemic exists partially because women have figured out they bear the brunt in relationships and that men overall are a net negative on their life/juice isnt worth the squeeze. So they are becoming pickier on who they let in or deciding protecting their own peace is better. Pretty much all of my consistently single friends in their 20s and 30's say this is WHY they are single. They acknowledge if they are less picky they could be coupled up but doing that is a detriment to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:53 PM
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One of the top reasons for divorce nowadays (used to be mainly money, substance abuse and infidelity) is emotional complacency in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:41 PM
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Women's difficulties are consistently worse than men's. Thats why the "male loneliness epidemic" exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:21 PM
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Men physically did, but women provide alot of the services beyond house building in my everyday life. Also many women were involved in the logistics of building my house (I would know, it was custom built and it was a long process of talking to alot of people to get there, many whom were WOMEN) Nobody protects me while I sleep. If I shoot an intruder where I live, I likely go to jail. So my best bet is to hide with my husband, and wait for the police who will take their sweet old time getting to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:09 PM
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Men arent providing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:58 PM
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By 2050, its predicted 45% of women 18-40 will be voluntarily single and childless...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:57 PM
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" They’re expected to provide financially, be emotionally available, contribute to housework, and be involved dads. But if the relationship fails? They’re often stuck paying child support, lose custody, and get minimal time with their own kids. That’s not a win." Yet states show women do everything you listed and more. Women are expected to provide financially too (gone are the days where the man feels the pressure to be a sole provider) 17% of women with kids 5 and under are stay at home moms a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:52 PM
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This is it. HOWEVER- the amount of men that exist where they truly add a "benefit" to the marriage and dont become an overall net negative on the woman is small. There simply is going to be a lot of unmarried single women though if women actually follow this and "choose better" as all the men here love to say, because there simply in terms of math arent enough competent empathetic men to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:49 PM
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"It’s up to women to wait until a man is clearly in love with her and shows an emotional commitment to her before having sex with him." Men regularly write on here they would never wait and its disgraceful, so looks like women cannot win.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:25 PM
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This should say dont tell women to choose better and get mad at women for having standards. They dont even need to be high.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 02:02 PM
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Yes, Ive had this happen to me three times in my 20's and all three times I waited.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 06:43 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 12:28 AM
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Actually studies show when they aren't matched, it's usually the woman who is better looking. So men are hypergamous 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 01:46 PM
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That's because you have a low bar for the first one and a high bar for the second
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 04:30 AM
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I answered it, you just didnt like my answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 05:30 PM
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Wow, average women definitely don't get this attention. You only focus on 10s. Maybe some 9s.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:55 AM
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I very rarely have to wait. It's apparent quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 09:57 PM
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Me personally it's because every bi man I know is promiscuous (they flocked to me in school. I've been friends with alot of gay and bi men). I don't want to date a promiscuous person. I have one gay friend who is monogamous and he has had an awful time finding a fellow monogamous boyfriend. Men like bisexual women because they expect FFM threesomes from it and other open arrangements.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 08:15 PM
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So I guess my mid to late 30s I'm in my prime then. Because physically I look better than I did in my 20s, I'm overall happier, better social circle and job.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 08:13 PM
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This. People in the US often participate in self isolation behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 04:20 PM
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The average person in my country is selfish. It's every man for himself
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 04:17 PM
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Experiences of myself and others aren't projecting. What you write only works when you have nonselfish people around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 04:07 PM
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Naiive. This thinking just gets you taken advantage of. Have fun being a doormat. Leading by example does nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:51 PM
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Pot meet kettle
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:49 PM
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We hope to find a more rare one who isn't like this. But many do give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:33 PM
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Welcome to being a woman! We are used to that comment and expect it here 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:32 PM
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Yeah, this sounds about right. Men always say this sort of thing here, it's a go to response. However, whenever a man here ends up dating a not great woman it's never his picker.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:26 PM
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Can I see these stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 07:44 AM
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I mean that's how men view women too. A masterbatory tool, a therapist they don't have to reciprocate for, a bank account and a domestic slave 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 07:43 AM
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Sex, companionship, someone to help financially contribute to their household and domestically contribute
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 07:32 AM
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Post wall women still have no issues getting dates 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 07:28 AM
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You must pick terrible women to date!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 06:34 AM
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Yep people don't want to hear this but they've done studies finding the more casual sex in one's past, the more likely they are to cheat and divorce. For both genders. Plus in general it makes sense for people of matching sexual values to get together. I when single refused to date men with casual sex history I wanted some one who matched me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 06:29 AM
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I wouldn't be turned off by a low n count. I care about the context specifically how you view sex. I don't do casual sex and didn't want a partner who liked that. So I'd figure you like casual sex and move on, since you've slept with multiple people but no relationship from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 06:25 AM
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Most of them argue with you that your judgment of them is wrong or insult you. In my early OLD days I always gave closure for moral reasons, yeah 10% of men take it normally I was naiive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:37 AM
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It's normal to not be instantly smitten with a literal stranger off of an app. In the old days, most relationships started from "growing attraction" as you so put it, from all the third party spaces. What you say makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:35 AM
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The average marriage has sex twice a week though...so the average marriage is not dead. Women don't get men above them to commit hardly ever. As you said if there's a looks disparity it's the other way around. If that's the case how do you know what effort they'd need to put in? Those couples are suuuuuuuper rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:29 AM
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Thanks for admitting guys usually want to commit to a woman above his league 😊 they get women out of their league yet have it "harder" lol 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:19 AM
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You should visit the relationship and breakup subreddits. Your 2 points are nowhere near enough
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:14 AM
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Attractive women who are older don't have issues finding a date. This is a revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:12 AM
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She sounds like a sweetheart. I'd actually say most men don't prefer a woman like that. They say they do but look at the women they try hard for. Your friend sounds amazing but good girls do often finish last. They don't excite men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:10 AM
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She probably does struggle. Most men IRL are picky and have standards. This place doesn't represent the average man IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:08 AM
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The overwhelming majority of couples in this world are matched in looks, verified in studies. So how does this occur if what you wrote is true? Your statement isn't true. The men in your scenario can get women in their league but they want one above them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:07 AM
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Depends on the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 04:13 AM
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Thanks for saving me from typing out my response 🙂 ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 04:12 AM
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If the people not picking me all suck I don't care. I've lived temporarily in places where I had no friends because the small social circle there was awful. I preferred being alone even though that preference was pretty much chosen for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:50 AM
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Ding ding. Hence why more women are choosing to be single. We aren't forced to pair off with lesser quality men now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:49 AM
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Most men IRL aren't desperate and have standards even if they are lonely. Those standards involve usually ignoring any girl they feel is a 5 or below. Reddit.com is not a good representation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:47 AM
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That statistic isnt correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:42 AM
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I liked interest but not too much before they know me. You're right, it comes off fake and desperate. They typically like the idea of a relationship not actually you. I also lost interest in men trying to have sex too early as well because it comes across bad and likely means they have a promiscuous past. Despite what guys on here say, I did care about that and it turned me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:41 AM
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Men AND women. Are few men like this
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:09 AM
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Agree with this post. Most men don't meet these requirements but expect women to meet these at minimum and to go further than these.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 07:11 PM
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Nope, it breeds resentment when one person is doing everything. That kills the love and sex drive. It's not sexy to be someone's mommy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 01:54 AM
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What people say they will do once married and what they actually do differ greatly. One of the reasons I was afraid to marry. My high powered career wise ex SIL who looked down on SAHMs demanded to become one after marriage and having a kid (and she also went from a research and science lover to a "crunchy" boho anti vax mother too 😳)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 01:51 AM
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Studies show marriages where the woman earns more have higher DV rates. Compared to when they earn the same abd even when the man earns more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 01:49 AM
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I've known many women who make very good money who think this way too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 01:47 AM
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Ehhh they view women by what they do for them (its ironic because they demonize American women who do it) and enjoy holding all the power. They aren't "good" Some know they are correctly viewed this way, so they aren't honest with their intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 01:45 AM
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I'm sure it is for some. They reap what they sow. Especially when that new relationship energy wears off and his ways/wandering novel seeking instincts slowly come out. Then they become kinda desperate insecure women. I've watched this evolution many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:34 PM
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Nope well done scientific studies in Google scholar. You can go read them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:32 PM
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The studies show both men and women who sleep around score higher in these personality traits: hedonism, impulsivity, superficiality, lack of empathy, egoism and tendency to become bored
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 11:09 PM
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Studies show casual sex men are more likely to cheat and divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 11:04 PM
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This. Also most women don't do this to men losing their jobs. That's what OP thinks but it's not reality
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:57 PM
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The majority of couples in this world are looksmatched and in the same socioeconomic status. They are the norm, not outliers
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:56 PM
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Too difficult for men. Men who earn enough want that traditional housewife so they don't have to adjust their life to kids and do housework. They want this AND to never pay alimony in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:29 PM
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Your second sentence is why men are much more likely to realize they aren't into their spouse while married and check out but not divorce due to marriage benefitting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:28 PM
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🤢🤢🤢 you aren't LTR material
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:26 PM
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Not really. More likely those men started sucking later on. Men are more likely to show flaws later on or become complacent
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:22 PM
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Lol I've been on various forms of birth control and had thyroiditis after my first pregnancy. Neither affected my relationship with my husband. Sounds like cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:08 PM
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If you bothered to understand true feminists, they are
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:02 PM
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Nope, all the men I've been really into aren't closed off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:02 PM
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Yep, people walk around with their flaws and intentions stamped on their forehead
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:26 PM
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Attracted to me meaning they were desperate. Didn't actually like me 🤷🤷🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:16 PM
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Nope. Men expect women to do that but they don't have to because they pick traditional gender norms when it suits them. Boomer women were often doormats and expected to be, cause "boys will be boys" and women are expected to be sacrificial caregivers
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:58 PM
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Nope dated several men like that and none were Chads by a long shot. Average to below average doesn't guarantee that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:57 PM
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I wouldn't have a positive opinion either honestly. You sound shallow and like you'd be the type to find most things annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 10:59 PM
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This!I use to work in legal services and every word of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 09:50 PM
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That's pretty much this sub, mostly men crying
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:43 PM
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5 ft 5 or 6. All are married
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:18 PM
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Actually unless it's a very tall girl...facial attraction and body type determines that choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:17 PM
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Yes. If there were no consequences or barriers. Or they'd not be together and she continues to be his maid, cook, planner and therapist as usual
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:24 PM
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Higher socioeconomic status people marry each other the most statistically, not down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:22 PM
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Reproductive meaning she had his kids doofus. Divorce causes loss of money and sometimes a decline in lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:21 PM
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Same applies to men. The amount that chase 9s, overlook or mistreat 5s and just want casual sex (or don't do this but clearly want to) at that age are high and they aren't good quality men. Then they "mature" and want a "good girl" who will make a good mother and wife in their 30s 🤢🤢🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:17 PM
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Men are just more likely to stay miserable or cheat. Plus that stat only measures who files at the courthouse. When you look at other statistics men are the initiators.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:16 PM
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She provides social, reproductive and most importantly domestic benefits. He fears losing money. Some care about reputation
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:15 PM
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False, over 50% of married men cheating have sex at least 2x a week with their wife. Thanks for supporting OPs post. They are cheating because they want younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:13 PM
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Notice how you want an open marriage just on one side 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:13 PM
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Men are 7x more likely to leave if his wife becomes ill, they are more likely to cheat than women even with regular sex, 3x more likely to leave if their wife is infertile
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:12 PM
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Lol, that "look" is a model.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:09 PM
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Most couples in this world are matched with looks and in the same socioeconomic status so false
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:09 PM
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I know several tall guys with bad personalities and character, and nobody likes them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:08 PM
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Every short guy I know gets dates. Most are paired up with taller or same height women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:07 PM
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Lolol if you think those men aren't unreasonable you're unreasonable. Thanks for proving my point. Yall say you don't mind average looking women but then when you see a picture of her you say she's ugly. That's your problem! Also, women have no problems dating 6 or 7 men. Please get therapy 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 10:30 AM
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Right, if I were him I would have said something
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:49 AM
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Not single now but mine were: general selfishness, being too pushy with sex, lack of emotional intelligence. I used dating apps from 2009 to 2016, eventually met my husband off of okcupid
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:08 AM
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It's at the top of this subreddit. Edit: what the? Your link makes NO sense
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 10:13 PM
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For relationships. Some men will screw a bag of flour 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 10:05 PM
-2

Sone men have unreasonable standards too. Plenty of them. Go look at the Looks Dailythread here of men calling average women ugly and above average women average 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:52 PM
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I'd find it offputting. I find guys like this have too high of standards. It's probably rare not a single one of those women wasn't at his level or good enough to even consider/try a few dates with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:52 PM
4

It isn't important? Once a guy passes the attraction and compatibility thresholds, lack of effort in OLD in particular was the number 1 reason why I rejected men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 02:51 AM
1

Nope. We don't keep the "tinglies" long term. If by "happy" you mean suck all the reproductive, social and domestic benefits out of her while not valuing her or having passion for her, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:38 PM
0

Nope, men generally don't want commitment. Women are very limited in their options for commitment. Men only lack choosing power for some of the women they want for casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:58 PM
5

I would never. I don't agree in double standards. I find most,their habits come back once the honeymoon energy wears off in the relationship. Luckily I'm married to someone with similar sexual values.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 04:40 AM
3

That's not an easy thing to find. You overestimate how easy it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 04:39 AM
7

I agree, but lowering your physical standards in the opposite sex to the point where you aren't attracted isn't good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 12:56 AM
4

...how convenient. Yet when women do this, they aren't "preferences" and are judged for it. Preferences are consistent and don't change all the time based on your selfish needs 🤷🤷🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:53 PM
1

Hmmm nope. Most women do not if you look at statistics. People are pretty consistent usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:51 PM
3

No, he does both casual sex and wants traditionalism. That isn't "preference"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:48 PM
-1

Exactly 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:48 PM
1

Stop going for the hottest women. I know no women who talk about dating like that...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:46 PM
1

It's mostly men who just want you for sex (how long this can go on, how far they take it and how you figure it out will vary) or men who don't genuinely like you and aren't compatible with you expecting you to change to accommodate them (like putting a square in a round hole).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:45 PM
2

Hmmm...your last sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:43 PM
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It really depends on the man's age, life experiences and personality. But I was several men's "first" girlfriends (unfortunately i didn't know, they purposefully hid it) and it wasn't a great experience being their training wheels and always having to be the patient bigger person. Then often they feel they are missing out and actually just view you as a starter girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:41 PM
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Yeah, your statement isn't it. This guy is a selfish hypocrite. His "preferences" (which aren't really preferences do you even understand that word? Are you 13) Are him just being selfish 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:39 PM
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They have internalized misogyny. They're rampant in my conservative hometown
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:35 PM
4

But then y'all lament she gives "duty sex" and "isn't into him" enough. Can't have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:33 PM
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So you want casual sex to "have fun" as you say, but judge promiscuous women? Yikes you're a selfish hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:30 PM
4

Yes they were. They had to marry for survival
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:23 PM
8

Hmmm so you want both casual sex and the perks of traditionalism when it suits you? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:23 PM
2

If she's smart, she'll figure it out based on his behaviors and personality traits later.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:21 PM
16

Yup, they also become terrible lovers and have a hard time long term with monogamy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:20 PM
7

Men do the same exact thing 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:10 PM
12

You didn't get the women you wanted (fit and too attractive for you women) when you were average. Because you shot too high
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:09 PM
3

Being a good woman does not increase it, unless the guy is exploitative
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:08 PM
1

This makes sense. That's when women have kids and the man's true ways come out or are cemented.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 09:14 PM
1

The majority of men online are average to below and do this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:55 PM
2

Nope, average and ugly guys are lazy too
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:54 PM
1

Studies consistently show when both the man and woman work full time, the woman does the majority of housework childcare and planning.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 06:52 PM
1

Stats show men want working moms who are also traditional housewives
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 06:01 PM
1

Most women work full time yet still act like a traditional wife. False
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 06:01 PM
6

Since women bear babies and are responsible for their care and upbringing more it makes sense. Plus, the human species would have never made it this far if women weren't wired this way
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 04:51 AM
1

You can't be a blue passport bro. What an oxymoron
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 12:57 AM
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Um.. all couples were once dating 😆 if a guy can't get dates he may be punching above
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 10:17 PM
1

Some people just don't have high sex drives
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:13 AM
5

So now women have to lower their standards yet never have duty sex. We cannot win 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:09 AM
2

Men are much more likely than women to become complacent in LTRs, that drives women's behaviors not her being unattracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:08 AM
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You're a weirdo for not seeing women don't orgasm as easily. The fact that men orgasm from stimuli even when not attracted emotionally is the reason why male rape victims aren't taken seriously. That difference exists
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:05 AM
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Life doesn't always work out that way. You're young sounding and naiive. I've had 4 miscarriages in the last 2 years and somewhat regularly have duty sex with my husband and I'm not resentful about it. If you would have told me 10 years ago I'd be doing this I would have said no way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:01 AM
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How do you tell? (Just so you know...how people act in the first 6 months doesn't matter. They are putting up a facade. Studies have been done on this actually, you know that? The studies are the reason why some companies have probation periods for new hires. The only way to TRULY know someone is TIME!)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 03:46 PM
3

Makes no sense. Most couples in this world are matched in looks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:58 AM
1

Bro the majority of women don't pick men like that. Someone focuses on a small percentage and generalize. You sound like you have childhood attachment issues that need addressing or only like toxic women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:56 AM
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If I only considered looks on apps. I'd been overwhelmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:54 AM
2

Yup, it's IMMEDIATELY apparent what someone's morals are. It doesn't take at least 3 to 6 months for the NRE to wear off and people to show who they are. Lol the guys I dated with the worst morals in the end were mild mannered quiet IT guys!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:12 AM
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I rejected more men based on personality and compatibility than looks 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:10 AM
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Nah. This isn't true. When a man cheats it's because his partner got fat, is a nag, refuses sex and he gets leniency. When women do it it's a character flaw. When men end up with a verbal abusive woman, she did the bait and switch. Thus showed no signs in the beginning. Genders reversed she needs to "pick better."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:23 AM
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Women on average are more empathetic than men, so false.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:21 AM
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Men: pick better. Also men: women need to lower their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:20 AM
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Continue with your convictions. I'll go passionately initiate sex for the 3rd time this week with my husband. We waited 2 months to have sex when we met 🤷🤷🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:08 PM
0

Nope. Women get used so y'all say choose better then we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:25 AM
1

This is my marriage even with kids
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:54 AM
1

Once a man knows it's harder for you to leave he is more comfortable treating you poorly and testing boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:53 AM
7

Your indicators aren't 100% accurate. I've been called both a slut and virgin by men when I wasn't either. So much for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:35 AM
5

He had a girlfriend he said he couldn't replace easily but didn't treat her well. 🤷 That's been my favorite reply of his.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:54 AM
5

That's sad and pathetic. Yes, being in a relationship where you can't be yourself and have to compromise core parts of yourself on a regular basis is harmful. No, they wouldn't but Darwinism apparently still exists today 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:52 AM
5

I'd compare starving to drinking sewer water. Bland food isn't harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:48 AM
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Most women dont want to sleep with men they barely know. After 3 dates with a guy from apps on average, I still have had a longer relationship with my Brita water filter. I've consistently been this way yet in EVERY relationship I've had when I'm treated well I have the higher sex drive. Doesn't match.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:46 AM
3

I work in mental healthcare too and had this problem. Hated it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:40 AM
1

I've caught men doing negging, kino, suggesting early water dates to weed out girls who wear too much makeup, repeating my name, trying to keep me unaware they are "spinning plates" Two years before I met my husband I read alot of pickup artist Red pill material online. Negging was the most common
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:34 AM
5

I'd rather have none honestly 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:10 AM
14

Dates don't mean much. Most dates are with men too incompatible with you, where you cant be yourself really, or they want you just for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:29 PM
9

I had this experience in more densely populated areas but 75% were generic messages showing they didn't read my profile so automatic no. The remaining 25% were filled with men not compatible with me (usually conservative, anti marriage, smokes, drinks alot) and/or I'm not attracted to. Then the 5% I talk to, half cannot hold a conversation or immediately start sexual talk. This was in 2016. After 7 years of this I did meet my husband so it worked eventually
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:26 PM
8

It's a waste of time and bad for our mental health
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:19 PM
6

Thanks for saving me the typing 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:19 PM
1

They rate those women higher yet say anyone with a BMI of 25 or higher is fat and repulsive, which is contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:52 AM
2

I wasn't any of those and called attractive yet lots of average men (never dated a Chad in my life) "fumbled" me as the kids say. OLD attracts avoidant and socially emotionally maladjusted men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:50 AM
1

Plenty of average looking and average earning men do that. Has nothing to do with looks or status or "value"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:48 AM
1

Average looking and earning men treat women this way. Has nothing to do with being a Chad and has to do with dating culture
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:46 AM
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I find relationship virginity to be worse than actual virginity, it's easier to learn sex. Actually inexperienced men I find after the beginning tend to be better in bed. However any guy into casual sex was a no go for me. I wanted a guy with similar sexual values to me and that's what I got. It makes our relationship easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:42 AM
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My exes who treated me the best were not the uglier ones. Character determines how you treat people
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:40 AM
2

Yes they are
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:35 AM
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Nope, there's plenty of girls considered slightly or a bit overweight in terms of BMI that carry it in an hourglass shape who are rated more highly than healthy weight girls with no hourglass shape 🤷🤷🤷 men are clueless
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:34 AM
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No, you didn't understand my comment. They choose the healthier girl with the less ideal body shape genetically (usually anything not hourglass) then berate her. Ask me how I know. Women who have a flat stomach but not the right shape or size for her T and A are settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:31 AM
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Considering men's ratings of women I've seen here, a 6 is more like an actual 8, so you only date 8s and 9s who are super rare. That's your problem
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:30 AM
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This^ mens standards of attractive women are very high nowadays (the looks Dailythread here is trash. Men rating above average women as average 😬) if she's attractive by his standards she's likely in a profession where she has to maximize her looks as a job
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:01 AM
4

Men don't approach irl and want you to pursue
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:59 AM
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They choose her then degrade her body letting her know they think she needs to improve. Not better
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:52 PM
1

Nope, body shape which is mostly genetic is equally as important
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:50 PM
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Only if you have the right body shape. Actually some women who are technically a tiny bit or slightly overweight, according to BMI, with the right body shape are seen as way more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:48 PM
2

Looks, parenting, emotional intelligence and support, all domestic duties men want someone better than them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:45 PM
2

Women never date down? 26% of women are breadwinners and this statistic will increase in the next 30 years
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:44 PM
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Men are already hypergamous. Stats show despite people typically marrying into their own socioeconomic status, women do most of the traditional housewife stuff while working plus are held to higher social and emotional standards in relationships than men. So most married men were hypergamous in selecting women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:43 PM
4

I do but it's because I fulfill many traditional housewife expectations WHILE working they should do the same 🤷🤷🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 11:18 PM
4

Finally an answer from a man here I agree with
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 10:39 PM
0

Yes you are! You have poor integrity and bad morals.
/r/Divorce_Men20/02/25 10:34 PM
1

Over 50% of married men cheating have regular sex (at least 2x a week) and report being emotionally satisfied with their wives. So this is statistically incorrect
/r/Divorce_Men20/02/25 10:33 PM
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Actually studies show over 50% of married men cheating have regular sex with their wives and report being emotionally satisfied. So it's more often than not a character flaw
/r/Divorce_Men20/02/25 10:30 PM
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Most Americans are overweight yet coupled up. Blows your theory out of the water.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:06 PM
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Go to your local Target or Walmart. Not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:05 PM
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Because "without the bullshit" mentality creates a burden fir women and sets a dynamic where they cater to you without receiving anything in return
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:04 PM
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Maid, chef, nanny, planner, consistent sex, therapist, social status boost, someone who likely compromises more than you, often they contribute financially 50% or close to it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:02 PM
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Most couples in this world are evenly matched in looks and socioeconomic status
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:00 PM
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10-20% maybe. But another 30-40% of men put absolutely no effort into their appearance beyond the very basic hygiene (brushing teeth, smelling clean, wearing clothes that arent ripped/5 sizes too big etc IMO) but alot of those dont want a woman like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:05 AM
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Men duh. The average woman would not even stand a chance against violence from a man. Ive been a consistent weightlifter for a decade OP and I wouldnt even stand a chance against 95% of men. Majority of men can take an average woman anyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:04 AM
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Never dated a "top man" in my life nor wanted to, they are full of headaches and would never want such a power imbalanced relationship in my life anyway. Most couples in this world are evenly matched in looks and socioeconomic status, so most women do in fact date, sleep and marry their own match. There are outliers but they are outliers. Other factors cause relationships to not work out long term usually. The women who consistently shoot out of their own league are a small % and take up your me…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:01 AM
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The fact that you think being single is as bad as being raped is pretty much all I need to know about you as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:59 AM
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Men usually want a woman who does both of these things OP. The key is, she has to do #1 on the things he WANTS her to do those things on, and do #2 on the things he does not MIND her doing those things on. And keep in mind, most men dont communicate well enough for the woman to know when to do 1 and when to do 2, so it is trial and error.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:57 AM
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You are an outlier dear. Most depressed people who get into relationships dont improve, and most certainly not depressed people getting into toxic relationships. Good for you on getting better but your experience is not universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:55 AM
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100% agree it is a good thing. We dont need women marrying because they are financially dependent on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:53 AM
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1/3rd of American marriages the woman is the breadwinner and the majority of couples are in the same socioeconomic status when they marry, so its not as huge of a factor as you think it is. People marry people compatible with them usually in terms of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:53 AM
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Its better these men dont find anybody and procreate. The things you mention are big problems in society and we dont need to pass along those genes for the sake of our future society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:52 AM
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Your grandfather had it easier because women back then were more desperate and dependent on men and willing to tolerate things they shouldnt tolerate as human beings. In your grandfather's age, an ugly not ambitious hotheaded/temper problem man got a wife who was cute, nice and stable. This is not a good thing for the woman but is for the man. Sorry but not sorry, I dont feel bad for men who consistently say they try hard to date but keep finding jerk women: the problem is them and they should s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:48 AM
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Women are less superficial in relationships overall and the things women are more superficial on, its easier to work on than looks (which drives the majority of what men focus on, especially in the beginning). Its easier to date as an average man if you want an actual relationship versus an average female (I'm not a casual sex person, if you are casual sex only its more likely the opposite) Men can do all sorts of things to improve their career, personality or charisma. Women date ugly men all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:29 AM
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My god, this is awful. You and OP are ridiculous.
/r/Divorce_Men03/01/25 05:18 PM
6

So glad this is the top answer. Thank god.
/r/Divorce_Men02/01/25 07:02 PM
0

When men cheat they have "flaws" when women cheat they are the devil. Quite a double standard there.
/r/Divorce_Men30/12/24 06:55 PM
1

I hope your wife grew a backbone and divorced you!
/r/Divorce_Men30/12/24 06:48 PM
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Over 50% of married men who cheat admit their wife and sex life is great, so false. BIG false.
/r/Divorce_Men30/12/24 06:38 PM
1

Perhaps your issue is that you reduce women to numbers.
/r/Divorce_Men30/12/24 06:34 PM
1

Hey you can send me to war. I'm 5 ft 3 and 132 lbs. I probably won't be helpful. I'll try to distract the enemy while you shoot them 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:46 PM
5

I'm 36 with kids and married this place is a cesspool
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:40 PM
2

They are all about human nature until it affects them negatively
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:38 PM
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Children over 3 still require alot of work. As someone with young children they have and care for others 3 is a weird cutoff for age.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:36 PM
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I 100% agree with this as a woman who has been all 3: below average (not attractive in highschool and earlier college), average (later college and graduate school, stopped my tomboy style, acne almost went away, filled out a little) and above average (starting about a year after graduate school until early 30s, I got really good at styling myself, doing lighter but flattering makeup looks and most importantly- filled out a bit plus was very into weightlifting and got the ideal hourglass shape. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:21 PM
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No women are more likely to pick fields that have lower earning potential. The rest of your post is great.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:08 PM
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If this is your definition of average, no I wouldnt date someone like that because: The average body mass index (BMI) is 29.23, just shy of obese. (I have been at a healthy BMI all my life, except the first 6 months after having my daughter) Only one in three adults meet the recommended amount of physical activity each week. (Most of the time, I meet this). The average American adult plays more than 5 hours of video games per week (I dont consistently do this) ~Half of Americans read four or few…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 01:28 PM
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Good for you going for the dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 05:59 AM
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There are plenty of misogynistic subreddits filled with men for you to use for support. /r/mensrights and nearly any Redpill forum is your community. Also check out sosuave.net.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 05:55 AM
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Count isn't as important as context. 6 including my husband but all were in relationships. That's way better than 6 FWB or ONS. Yes, I had men make ME wait, no problem
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 05:52 AM
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Average women can't be picky, they don't have endless options. It's why several of my female friends married bad guys (in some ways) and complain. They knew they wouldn't be easily able to get someone else to match their other standards
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 05:39 AM
0

The average woman doesn't have easy options either. Above average people do though
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 05:38 AM
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Most people in this world who are coupled up end up with someone who is a match looks wise and in the same socioeconomic status though. Lots of studies confirm this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:50 AM
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Unfortunately for us ladies orgasming isn't usually as easy. To quote one of my favorite comedians "it requires the concentration of an Olympic hopeful on a balance beam"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:37 AM
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Somewhat, but if it required me to change too much to appease them I didn't care. Also people aren't a monolith. So you will be changing yourself every time if you change yourself per partner. So don't change your core traits and values because the right person will match them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:25 AM
3

Nope nope nope
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 01:45 AM
1

No some men have very little empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:25 AM
1

Average woman in US is 5 ft 4 and around 170 lbs (and it's not carried in a great way) with a non model face. You sure they are messaging truly average women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:13 AM
5

🥰😍😘 100% right
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:06 PM
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Yep alot of divorces in any court docket are Green Card marriages according to my in laws who are divorce attorneys
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:06 PM
0

Which means absolutely nothing. A decent chunk of men swipe and like every woman or nearly every woman, then look at her profile later if she reciprocates. And even if he continues after that, odds are high he just wants casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 04:31 PM
0

I've been a healthy BMI my entire life and I've never had 5+ men GENUINELY interested in me ever. And I was social in my 20s too
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 04:30 PM
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They aren't pulling. Women don't care about casual sex. Having thirsty men want to hit it and quit it isn't attention in our eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 04:29 PM
1

Maybe in dating apps if you include casual sex men. Irl nope...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 04:28 PM
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I can assure average and below women dont
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 05:22 AM
7

👏👏👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 04:46 AM
41

If you're competing with 5 other men you're chasing above average women 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:32 AM
3

As with everything with humans. It's subjective. Red flags and icks vary. Everyone is different for what a red flag and ick is to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:23 PM
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There is no way 100% to vet a person. You either take a risk or be alone forever
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:22 PM
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Men: choose better Women: ok but not you and I'll be single for awhile as a result of learning to embrace being alone Men: 😲 lower your standards
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:20 PM
2

You're too reasonable 😅😅😅
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:18 PM
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Thanks for writing so eloquently what I wanted to. I believe the change OP says he sees is from economical factors and more importantly social isolation and lack of community
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:35 PM
-3

I see not attractive mean and lazy men in relationships all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:23 PM
-7

Like men do all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:22 PM
2

Difficult jobs? Most work in an office
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:21 PM
-4

Then you're overshooting and going for too above you women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:20 PM
-7

In that case I think it means men don't need to bring as much to the table
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:20 PM
0

And parenting too. It's crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:19 PM
1

My ideal man, this was my husband ❤️ I initiated the majority of physical stuff which I greatly liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:27 AM
7

I had this experience my best was a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:58 PM
5

No foreplay (most women don't orgasm from penetrative sex only), being too rough without asking first, not taking the lead or showing me what they like and berating me/saying negative things afterwards for me not knowing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:57 PM
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This !
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:44 AM
1

Yup, birds of the same feather flock together for many traits not just shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:35 PM
-3

I've consistently read this thread for over 2 years, it's not 1 or 2 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:11 PM
-3

No I wish but it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:10 PM
-8

Men are worse judging women so not really. This Dailythread always confirms to me most men think the average woman is ugly. All the pictures of clearly above average women being called ok or mid 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:35 AM
-1

Men don't agree with your definition of nagging
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:18 AM
1

Most couples in this world are in the same socioeconomic status when they meet and later marry so your answer is not totally correct. Despite what the internet says the majority of rich men don't marry middle class or poor women. Nor do middle class men marry poor women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:22 PM
2

Yet men can't do "basic shit" and expect the woman to do it all the time. So you're essentially admitting men are entitled manchilds. I know very few women who don't cook yet tons of men that can't or won't 🤷🤷🤷 Gosh darn us feminists. We don't want to work 40 hours a week and do ALL the cooking and cleaning. We are monsters 👻 👽 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:07 PM
5

There's a huge range between 250 lbs and a woman who is a literal barbie doll. Why are you so dramatic?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:04 PM
5

Just read your insanely long and ridiculous list of standards you have for women. You're definitely the problem and are unreasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:14 AM
1

No, it's because IRL that is what men focus on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:12 AM
8

So a maid and a cook then 🤢🤢🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:11 AM
10

So you're hypergamous and only feel strongly for women out of your league in looks. Got it. Oh and she showed toxic behavior and you didn't care because she was so hot 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:10 AM
-6

Most men don't ever apologize lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:09 AM
1

100% agree
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:24 PM
2

I'm so glad I'm not single because men who like to travel are incompatible with me and it seems that's what most single men do now, at least according to my single friends. I hope my husband doesn't die soon
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:58 PM
14

👏👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:56 PM
3

I don't know any women who want a bad boy man who is a good dad. That doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:56 PM
4

There's not enough emotional mature functioning males for every woman, they're more rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:55 PM
2

Most couples in this world are evenly matched in looks and socioeconomic status so your math ain't mathin.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:54 PM
0

You are 100% right. I realized this after looking at the Looks Dailythread here. Men calling above average women average 🙄 Explains soooo many male user posts here...if you posted an average chick you see at the grocery store most men here call her ugly and get defensive when you say "but she's the average girl"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:52 PM
4

Many of the women in that subreddit are extremely socially awkward, have emotional problems and are very physically unattractive so I disagree. Men IRL would not want them long term, some men would try to pump and dump though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:50 PM
2

I've never thought a man is creepy for approaching or asking me out. I think they're creepy when they don't take no for an answer or lash out which describes over 50% of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:48 PM
0

Nope, below average chicks don't get attention this is false. Men online vent about women THEY want only not wanting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:47 PM
5

I dated lots of average looking men in my 20s. Literally average. Their salary was around the average salary where I lived (not hating, I did too, just stating a fact). They looked average. If I posted their pictures online they'd be called a 3 or 4 (online forums are always a little harsh) I've viewed rating subreddits alot. So I'm VERY confident I've dated alot of truly average men. Now for the kicker: average men aren't content with a girl in their league of looks. They'll take one but ditch …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:43 PM
1

Not me 🤷🤷🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 10:52 PM
1

Only well above average women get the best of men. You are severely overestimating the quality of men that exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 10:51 PM
4

Only women are expected to not make mistakes. Women have always been held to higher social and emotional standards than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 09:47 PM
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A good % of couples that isn't true though. You keep focusing on the smaller % to make men look good though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 09:02 PM
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I'm married to a wonderful guy, but he's pretty rare. 🤷 I've never ever said they don't exist, just that they aren't common. Many women won't have the chance to end up with someone quite compatible with them AND who treats them well AND who truly loves her for who she is and not what she provides for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:59 PM
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I'm only looking at data where they work equal hours. And it shows women are still expected to do the majority of traditional wife stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:32 PM
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Of course you'll just tell me their experiences didn't happen 🙄 I assure you they did and they weren't picky. I actually worried for them they'd end up in abusive relationships because they were so desperate for male attention. Ugly overweight girls don't get attention. When men online vent about women they are only venting about women they notice. Average to above average but judging by the Looks Dailythread here, it's really just above average women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:30 PM
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Nope, they aren't lying. In my 20s I had a lot of different female roommates who did the apps and were very open with their experiences on them. I had 2 different ones who were overweight and did not have a pretty face but lovely personalities. They got no attention other than a couple random "hey" messages throughout the year (which men didn't reply back to them when they responded back, because men spam generic messages after swiping on every woman then look closer at the profile later) I woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 11:53 PM
0

I know several men IRL that say that about women 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:33 PM
0

No, actually they look like the average male pictures that men on this forum post. So even PPD men agree with me apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:20 PM
1

I accept that men who don't do that are very very rare 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:24 PM
2

Yup! Go visit the very active /r/ForeverAloneWomen subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:22 PM
1

That describes all of my married male friends...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:21 PM
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No they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:21 PM
2

Lol you need to do WAY more than that. I've never ever been fat in my life and the most basic average men have nitpicked my looks. Simply not being a b**** isn't it either
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:12 PM
3

Prior to me meeting my husband in my late 20s I could have written this word for word, just swap the genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:11 PM
7

If you're a woman that wants a good decent relationship you have to do the same. I always worked hard on my looks and non physical self improvement when single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:10 PM
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This. We'd never be serious
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 03:23 AM
2

See the extremely strong responses to posts on Reddit when a woman cheats and I'm surprised it's not a crime from their eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:15 AM
4

Studies show women are more likely to stay than men are in these cases...and they are less likely to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:13 AM
3

For the same reasons men do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:12 AM
-1

Most wives in the US work full time and still do over 50% of the cooking, cleaning, planning and childcare so wrong. Men want the perks of traditionalism and perks of feminism with neither camps downfalls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:55 AM
1

Huh, so the studies that show married men are happier than single men yet the reverse for women. I guess women are strong
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:42 AM
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No, it's not selflessness. It's fear of financial ruin and starting over plus losing a chef, maid, regular sex, planner, therapist and nanny...Fear of financial ruin and starting over only is why women stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:12 AM
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Feel so bad for your ex wife, yikes 😬 Imagine you find out your husband was never into you that way
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:31 PM
7

Can pay his bills and save a small amount. Not live literally paycheck to paycheck. His lifestyle and wants varies. When single though I didn't want a guy who made significantly more money than me, I saw that as a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:29 PM
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How awkward 😬 studies show in couples that both work the same hours, very common, women still do over 50% of childcare, household work and planning. So men don't agree to it either 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:06 PM
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Alimony is temporary and awarded in 10% of divorce cases so youre fear mongering. My SIL with 3 kids 6 and under is freshly divorced. She was married for 7 years not working ever. She gets 3 years of alimony (half the length of marriage is common but for really long marriages they don't always follow that). The Sopranos is not real life. My SIL got married right out of college and only has Dunkin Donuts as her work history from her college years and she is completely screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:03 PM
3

Women dont benefit from hookups. It's usually bad sex with no orgasm and a potential for pregnancy. No woman my age uses clubs for fun nor has the other stuff you list. As usual, you focus on the top 10% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:57 PM
3

To be honest, loyal, respectful, good communicator, good conflict resolution skills, nearly perfect socially and emotionally while accepting they lack in these areas and have patience with it. I was also expected to never be moody ever, always emotionally supportive and to integrate myself seamlessly into their circle of friends and family even when they were mean to me for no reason whatsoever and my exes did not want to reciprocate with these 3 requirements. All of these exes would never list …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:18 PM
2

My guy friend does have options though. Still it's better to be alone than with a bad woman, never understood why men here use that as an excuse
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:13 PM
4

Yes, and the one in their 30s I mentioned where they aren't a good couple that didn't happen and was the males fault- great guy friend but he wasn't picky enough.. the guy talked about a "super hot smarta** and harda** co worker" he liked when he was 35, married her and now complains he's whipped. He wasn't smart in picking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:56 PM
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In my social circle the women who married in their 30s have the healthiest strongest marriages (with one exception). ALL of the ones who married in their 20s do not. All are incompatible and several are downright toxic and the subject of gossip. People get smarter as they get older and pick better partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:53 PM
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No alot of men don't bring realistic expectations to the table of their partners especially when you compare it to what they bring. Most of my exes expected too much of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:39 PM
1

Lots of American men don't cook then when they get into a LTR they want their gf to cook all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:18 PM
1

I guess most men aren't grown adults then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:57 PM
7

I had this experience when I did OLD. The men who made comments on me being genuine, simple and having a more natural appearance (and seeming surprised) said and did things to attract superficial chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:42 PM
1

Desperate men who are online alot are like that. Reddit.com attracts them. Most men IRL are pickier and have a type. The dating subreddits are full of men who find 10%: of women attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:06 PM
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If I went only on looks, I'd swiped on alot of men. Having nothing in your profile or near nothing or obvious incompatibility weeded out most. I met my husband on okcupid in 2016 back when you answered a million questions and I almost always gave high match % men who I wasn't attracted to in pictures a shot. Over half of the men I talked to couldn't hold a proper conversation. Over half of my IRL dates the men showed no interest in me as a person
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:40 PM
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Yup, so men are the same as women they go for the top 10%. They also get "tricked" and don't "pick better" the way they tell women to. Another opportunity doesn't apply though. They have girls interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:36 PM
-1

Nope. In my 20s, the nice boring men who were my male equivalent overlooked me or rejected me for more dominant manipulative bi***y women. I didn't stroke their "tinglies" enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:55 PM
-1

Men do this too. They chase after the hot, fun but manipulative woman and treat her like the prize. Then if they want marriage when older, the less hot more stable and caring women he overlooked in his 20s and early 30s become more appealing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:24 PM
0

This isn't true. Studies show a good chunk of men never married in their 30s have dismissive or avoidant attachment tendencies. Those men aren't wanting children strongly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:23 PM
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This. Cue men coming in and saying "when my young wife gets old I'll change my preferences and cherish her due to memories" but we all know that's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:12 PM
1

Well studies show SAHDs do less work than SAHMs and are praised for doing bare minimum. So that's why they think this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:14 PM
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It's so funny you say this. I'm 36 and have a main social group of 8 other married couples. 7 with kids. I went to a party with them a month ago. My husband and the other 7 dad's ALL said no way! To your statement. They all stated they would not like doing that. So wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:12 PM
1

There is if you are a good mom by today's standards. Which are high.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:10 PM
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It depends. Where I live, kids are home from the bus between 3 and 4pm and drop off is at 730am. So the mom gets home at 8am. The next 7 hours are cooking, cleaning, planning and any associated shopping (school aged kids require more planning than you think), errands.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:10 PM
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It's not 50/50 on chores. It's about having the same free time. A SAHM from 7am to 11pm (depending on the ages of the kids, yes this is common) with little breaks, sometimes on broken sleep, versus 7am to 5pm for the working parent is not fair. The rule in my house is we both go until we are done (usually 830pm after they are asleep and house is cleaned up) and split on weekends
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 09:22 PM
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I cared. It's one of the reasons I liked my husband in the beginning and thought wed be a good match🤷🤷🤷 having similar sexual values is important
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 02:44 PM
2

Visit any male oriented subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 02:38 PM
1

You're greatly missing this point: politicians lie about positive things they'll do. To get votes. If they have a diarrhea mouth, they may let it slip some negative things they will do. He said he wouldn't ban abortion but pushed very anti abortion SC nominees. Actions over words.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 02:36 PM
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They did not all easily lose weight and get back to their perfect hourglass shape while 1) being crazy sleep deprived for potentially years 2) having very little help 3) doing all the childcare and nearly all the housework planning and cooking. You're so unintelligent. The idea of a nuclear family where the woman bears all of that has existed for less than 1% of human history
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 03:01 AM
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If we are at his house I ask him to make me breakfast 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 02:41 AM
13

😆😆😆
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 02:40 AM
2

No. It's unintelligent however. I've had men say that phrase to me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 02:40 AM
1

The only one of those that is modern women is 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 02:39 AM
2

I'd add very progressive social views and fiscal spending views, atheist or agnostic, finds women other than conventionally attractive Barbie doll types hot (goths, nerds, etc) and doesn't need a woman to wear makeup necessarily
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 02:38 AM
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They actually didn't. You don't know too much history.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 02:36 AM
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Plenty of women your age and older are just as good as your wife
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 01:33 AM
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You'll pull your weight so she has time?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 01:32 AM
4

Nah there are subs saying marital rape isn't rape
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 06:34 PM
0

Nah, watching sports all day isn't a stimulating hobby
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:18 AM
1

No, men in my life (due to me having 4 brothers) see me as "one of the guys." They speak open and freely around me due to this, so I really get to see their soul. They aren't happy really and feel they settled. I've overhead this alot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:05 PM
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Yup. I didn't even start trying to work on my appearance until 19. And I filled out quite a bit at 21, it caused issues with my female friendships. Then I filled out after a baby, now have a near perfect hourglass figure with weightlifting. I'm in my 30s and should be hitting "the wall" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:48 PM
0

Nah. Slightly overweight Dan who makes 50k a year and has no hobbies outside of sports and video games does it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:46 PM
1

This explains 90% of men here. Every time I read the male comments on women's pictures here, I'm reminded of this. It's why according to men here, the "average" girls have soooooo many options and why "average" girls ignore them lol ("average" is "above average" IRL). They are too harsh with rating women's looks and go for the top 15% while overestimating their own attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:44 PM
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Yes, they mean the woman looks better with natural makeup. To be fair men look better with natural makeup too (why male celebrities look better on tv) but they arent expected to wear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:41 PM
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Yes this. Men here don't realize their peers settle in their partners and make it known to them. Most women have at least 1 example of a guy doing this who later on starts making comments about her appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:37 PM
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Nope. I've been fitter than the majority of my exes, they still nitpicked my looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:32 PM
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I love the downvotes from the triggered men 😆 I'm 36 abd get called a hot MILF and most men my age look worse than they did in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:27 PM
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Welcome to being a woman. Not a great feeling isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:26 PM
1

Men are not truly happy with average girls. They just know they cant do any better
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:16 PM
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No men do indeed overestimate their attractiveness. Has nothing to do with women's behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:15 PM
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Your first paragraph isn't true. The majority of the men I know that are nuts about their partner IRL were hypergamous when picking her. Men are "content" in their league I wouldn't say they are that happy though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:13 PM
2

The internet makes it seem that men have a forever high sex drive. It's not true. Most men after getting married want sex less. Even if they aren't stressed and the woman doesn't let herself go
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:05 PM
2

Sadly alot of men struggle with these though they expect this treatment from women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:02 PM
2

The outliers always think they aren't outliers 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:48 PM
1

Depends on the guy. Some love dependence. Some prefer independence and interpret every little "soft" thing as weakness. I've dated both types. Some want a mixture depending on what it is. The worst one is a guy who wants dependency but then uses your weaknesses against you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:19 PM
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Men have wandering eyes even with a hot wife. Maintaining your looks isn't enough. Neither is doing what he wants sexually
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:13 PM
1

Yeah this. The second paragraph describes my exes from my 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:11 PM
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After the honeymoon stage is over you find out if you're incompatible. Most people you date won't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 04:15 PM
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👏👏👏 they'll ignore you, hard to swallow pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:29 AM
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Nope. The issue is men think above average women are average. Go to the looks Dailythread here and rateme forums. It explains all the "average women ignore me" comments 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:26 AM
0

That's the guys fault. I thought men were more accountable?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:10 PM
1

I'm missing one. Although that may be in my head (11)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:08 PM
1

I'm enjoying the comments from men here who have no clue 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:19 PM
2

Another delusional take 🙄 Toddlers are more exhausting than babies
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:18 PM
1

What a delusional take. They don't sleep for long and it's in short chunks of time they sleep. Can tell you haven't taken care of babies
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:16 PM
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This ^ with the kids it'll be tough for her to find someone. Alot of breadwinner moms still do a good chunk of housework in statistics. But when men are breadwinners they don't want to help with housework and childcare much at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:16 PM
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Few men would want to stay home and be financially dependent on her, it'll be tough. Most want to be in control
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:14 PM
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💖
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:52 PM
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Sure. Men like that usually have high standards or no time for a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:43 AM
1

Most men want a woman who works the same amount of hours, does the majority of housework (chef/maid), women are held to high emotional and social standards (chef, therapist, planner, socially more adept), who maintains her looks better than him. Men have it a bit harder for the initial stages of dating, relationships are more work for women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:48 PM
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In my social circle the healthiest and most compatible marriages are overwhelmingly people who met in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:47 PM
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I did vet- I'm happily married and had several ex bfs who showed flaws between 2 to 8 months of dating. Have had the same issue with friendships too. But men in this forum think if a guy shows flaws on date 4, it's your fault you didn't vet him properly 😆😆😆 utterly ridiculous 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 01:15 AM
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Yep everyone is so genuine and upfront it's THAT simple 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:36 PM
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You are confusing above average women with average women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 06:04 PM
0

I'd give the same advice for women too. Dating apps are built on superficiality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 06:03 PM
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According to the various dating and relationship subreddits here, your first statement is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 05:34 PM
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Casual sex doesn't benefit women at all. It's not "good" for us in any fashion it is harmful. So no your attitude is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 03:41 AM
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👏👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:07 AM
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Doesn't matter 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:07 AM
0

Well yeah men aren't talking about the dynamic you just described 🤷🤷🤷 they're talking about women who do a heck of alot more pursuing than "asking out a guy for ONE date"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:07 AM
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Yes the woman should show interest after that. Don't blame men for cutting off if she doesn't. A woman into you will definitely show interest when you are planning and paying for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:39 PM
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Anxious attachment people are more likely to get into relationships, yes. Actually studies show anxious attachment people in relationships with secure attachment people improve over time. They aren't guaranteed to be anxious forever. The only attachment pattern that is very resistant to change and is the hardest in terms of therapy is avoidant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:33 PM
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No matter what women do, they cannot win.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:32 PM
0

I agree with this. Being that desperate doesn't lead to mutually fulfilling relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:31 PM
4

Yep, they think she's "good for now" and either use her for sex or keep her as a placeholder girlfriend. He usually doesn't treat her well or appreciate her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:30 PM
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I have never seen a LTR where the guy is over the moon for a woman that started because she pursued him. I'm in my mid 30s and have observed alot of relationships. In those relationships it's obvious the woman is more into him, and my social circles gossip about it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:27 PM
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Yes. If one works part time, they do closer to 75% of the work. Money has no relevance. How hard someone works doesn't equal their pay. It's based on time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:17 PM
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Most men online act like this though. Men online are not scrambling online to get a relationship with anyone. You think this because the Internet attracts below average desperate men. It's not real life though
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:57 PM
3

Average women have an opportunity to get casual sex from men that don't like them easily not a relationship this is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:56 PM
5

Agree 100% of this. They want less burden for the biological role in providing resources, then still want sex. Then if they get into a relationship they switch from Dutch bills and feminist sexual freedom to wanting a traditional dynamic 😆 they switch back and forth to whatever suits them best. This is why I say there aren't any truly feminist or truly traditional men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:01 PM
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This must be a geographic thing, where I live men aren't paying in full for the first 5 dates. Anyway, I'd rather be a man even if you did do this. Women bear the brunt for LTRs in terms of effort and work, men just get through initial courtship then coast for years after and society supports this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:58 PM
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Whenever the guy doesn't initiate, he's not into her. It's very rare for a guy to fall for a woman doing the initiating in the beginning. That's why women don't, doesn't have to do with money or power. She knows she will get used for sex and potentially emotional labor, and women have more severe consequences for being used for sex biologically speaking. If men are interested, they will.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:56 PM
2

I find alot of men hold out for a woman better looking than him with better social and emotional intelligence than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:50 PM
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Because their standards are too high and decent women are turned off by his past. I was considered good wife material and rejected those men alot
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:53 PM
2

Most men I've met into hookups aren't attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:52 PM
5

They will still leave bro
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:51 PM
7

Yep everything is down to "picking" Picking humans who are a species who don't make their intentions known 😆 aaaand act different in the beginning 😉 🤔 Funny when women tell men to pick better they get defensive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:51 PM
-2

This is why I feel most men after marriage lose interest and why men tend to make worse LTR partners, hence the divorce rates. The average man lands an average woman because he can't get better and he slowly loses interest in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:52 AM
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It's a bit different though...studies show looks make up more of the pie chart for what is needed for a relationship. This is in all types of partners for men than compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:50 AM
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This forum and men online in general are not indicative of reality
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:13 AM
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Or they don't last long once a relationship starts because they lose interest or the other person grows sick of their avoidance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:10 AM
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This lots of studies show avoidant attachment people make up the bulk of people single over 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:07 AM
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Over an hour a day isn't feasible for working moms of young kids. You're naiive
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:44 PM
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I agree with this. I couldn't lose weight without extremes after my daughters birth. Now I wasn't obese but was heavier than normal and nothing was working like it used to. Turns out I developed an autoimmune disorder...pregnancy is a common trigger for this in females. Glad my husband didn't act like OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:41 PM
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Most men don't want to use condoms. And most don't want no PIV sex. There are outliers but they are outliers. Keep in mind some women have bad side effects from BC. (Not me personally. I loved BC. But many women don't and it can also lower your libido)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 04:30 PM
2

Yes. Standards of raised children have gone up alot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:59 PM
1

Women of all ages face stigma on whether or not they have kids. You can't win.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:58 PM
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I am American and only looked for long term options online. After 7 years I found him been married for 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:32 PM
16

The Russians I know are emotionally cold and unkind. My closest female friend who is Russian is like this and thinks highly of herself yet hasn't figured out the other women in our group avoid her for any kind of emotional talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:31 PM
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I know and agree. My friends from Eastern Europe and generally anywhere from not the US or Canada are more unkind. I also live in one of the most diverse counties on the US east coast and work with mostly immigrants and the crap they and their American born family members say to me once they get comfortable is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:30 PM
1

I'm already social and have fulfilling male platonic friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:07 PM
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I'm not above average so no I don't have 5 male friends pining for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:13 PM
2

Ok, now apply that biological thinking to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:11 PM
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I have fertility problems and regularly look at fertility related and trying to conceive (people with no fertility problems) subreddits and it's already happening. The one and done subreddit is going to get a major boost of users too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 04:32 PM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:53 PM
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Yeah but that describes majority of men on the Internet and they get sympathy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:52 PM
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This replier has told me I can reverse my auto immune disorder with diet, I wouldn't pay attention to his perception
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:49 PM
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When women post it, it's considered misandry. But men, theirs isn't considered misogyny 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:46 PM
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Agreed with this. Margaret Thatcher is a great example of the opposite woman leader OP describes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:44 PM
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Right. The same way they tell women to work on their looks more (going beyond simply being a healthy weight too). I swear, biology only applies to men apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:42 PM
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Average women don't have tons of options. You're confusing above average with average like most men on here. Also options or not, it will not change that everyone puts their best foot forward in the beginning and for many that's not their true selves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:10 PM
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Nah man I used to lurk there all the time. They are straight up hateful
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:37 PM
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Oh yes they do. They say they want women drafted specifically into military roles that rely purely on physical strength in combat and admit later its for revenge... they know they are most likely to die
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:14 AM
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Uh no they aren't. MRA loves to fear monger custody in particular, despite most states being 50/50 in court by default and ignoring that most men agree to less custody in meditation
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:04 PM
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They do it because they are afraid if they don't, they will lose their license. Your mother likely had cut and dry miscarriages where there was no chance of viability and it was obvious. Good for her but that isn't the case for many miscarriages especially second trimester ones and late first trimester ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:47 PM
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They make women wait in tricky miscarriages and women die while they wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:39 PM
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Have you gone to any of the Red Pill or Men's Rights subreddits? They certainly get away with it there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:29 PM
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Stop spreading misinformation- people writing laws don't understand healthcare. There wouldn't be a rise in maternal deaths from mismanaged miscarriages in red states since R versus W being overturned if what you wrote is true. Efit: ahhh saw you're autistic and have trouble maintaining relationships. Explains alot 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:27 PM
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I'll only do that when they enforce miscarriage care, which they never will because they don't care 🤷 people like me are viewed as a sacrifice
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:28 PM
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No I don't want to murder babies. I want to be able to get pregnant and trust I'll get medical care I need. And not go to the ER and be told I have to wait to confirm viability when it's clear it's not viable, and I may die waiting for clearance by stupid laws made by people who don't understand healthcare
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:15 PM
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I'd never be with a guy who thinks anti abortion laws don't affect miscarriage care. 1 in 3 women have abortions and half of those are miscarriages. (Did you know miscarriages are covered as abortions under laws) 1 in 100 women have 3 or more miscarriages (lucky me! I've had 4, 2 of which required emergency care for very wanted children ! 1 was very time sensitive with hemorrhaging, I'd be dead if I lived in a red state. I live in a swing state though unfortunately 😔) did you know my medical fil…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:00 PM
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Hormones. But it's from evolution a woman's 30s and early 40s are her last hurrah to get pregnant. Women with higher libido at this age have passed along their genes more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:33 PM
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They actually do, you don't like their opinions on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:39 AM
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I'm not the outliers though...many friends IRL are like me. Internet is biased
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:49 PM
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Speak for yourself! I still workout to keep my hourglass shape and don't go overboard (prefer more natural) but put effort into my appearance. I'm 36, happily married with a young child. I also have a higher libido- women sexually peak in their 30s and early 40s. It's biological it's the "going out of business" sale as my husband calls it 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:41 PM
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Women who don't remarry usually choose it that way. For a good reason
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 09:53 PM
2

No women prioritize their children first men dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 09:52 PM
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I swear you people need therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:03 PM
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Yep, my brother was accused of being a negligent parent by his ex (who is domineering and selfish).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:29 AM
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She should. Women with PCOS are more likely to miscarry if she accidentally gets pregnant. She could die.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:27 AM
1

No alot of younger white men voted for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:25 AM
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Several of my male cousins are like this and hate Trump 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:22 AM
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Alpha men suck 🤢🤢🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:21 AM
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I've always disliked both men and women. See my flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:20 AM
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People responding here are really naiive. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:15 AM
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If I was single absolutely yes. I'd be vetting harder to weed out Trump supporters. 4 miscarriages in the past 2 years. One ectopic which required time sensitive life saving surgery and another was an early second trimester miscarriage that I would have died from maybe living in a red state. Every Trump supporter can F off. I've already cut off family members who insult me about not having more children KNOWING my history and support Trump. 👋👋👋
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:13 AM
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No it's misogyny. Anytime I've called it out they list excuses that boil down to misogyny. if male subs were equal with what you said you wouldn't see the reverse comments getting the most support based on gender. Also every divorce subreddit does the same thing. Whenever a guy cheats or has anger problems it's the woman's fault she caused it but when a woman had those flaws it's filled with vile comments about her character
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:59 PM
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Whenever you post situations involving disrespect and selfishness, men get more leniency (he has anxiety, he's immature and needs to grow up, it was out of character and he's changed) comments upvoted by the thousands at the top while when women do it she gets called names and immediately she has terrible character (those are the top comments upvoted by thousands) I've read those 3 forums consistently for many years, consistently see men's flaws are seen as salvageable and women's arent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:08 PM
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Nope. Askmen and askmenover30 and askreddit is filled with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:50 PM
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Casual misogyny is accepted all over the Internet. You have confirmation bias
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:46 PM
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No. Women weren't treated well. Abused, cheated on, dismissed etc. Treated more inferior
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:49 AM
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No, women are assumed that they nag too much or don't put out enough. Or they are bad in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:19 AM
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If they aren't off putting and overshooting they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:03 PM
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They have obvious social and emotional flaws, are off putting and have too high of standards but think their standards are normal
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:02 PM
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Yup, and poor men- it's the case for males too!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:01 PM
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Most people marry their looksmatch and SESmatch, so false. Men are certainly not happy with whatever they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:56 PM
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Nope, men expect it and next you. Your logic is flawed. Most women want to wait with every guy. Sex is more risky for us especially now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:02 PM
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Studies consistently show the vast majority of couples are matched in looks and socioeconomic status so wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:33 PM
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Women do more housework and childcare despite working the same hours as men yet we aren't slaves...lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:32 PM
2

Yet 99% of men here expect sex before the woman even knows you 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:31 PM
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Being both a provider and traditional woman with no free time, the sefault parent, being held to higher social and emotional standards than men in relationships, criticized more for simply aging isn't "favorable" oh and now we are losing our reproduction rights. You are delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:29 PM
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I didn't think of the second point but you're right how depressing 😕
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:20 PM
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Being hit. Being cheated on, others find out and it's humiliating. Plus risk of STDs men carry them easily with no symptoms. Also having brothers growing up, I am kinda immune to wrestling, tormenting and some hitting
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:19 PM
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Uh no. Slutty men aren't desirable that's a paradox
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 06:26 PM
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They don't get as much support for the same reasons why white people don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 06:24 PM
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This is my answer! I'll never ever remarry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 05:45 AM
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Yeah this is 16+ married couples I know. Married between 32 and 38. Kids 33-42.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 06:03 PM
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Childfree by choice people are on the rise dramatically
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:17 PM
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BC has a ton of bad side effects. Telling women to go on it is wrong. Your responses are so fu**Ed up. Please don't ever reproduce yikes 😬 you're an abhorrent man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:09 PM
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Apps are not reliable lol so idiotic in your comments here
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:05 PM
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It's not, you're just weak. That's no excuse for their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:05 PM
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Oh, are the countless female versions of this rage bait? Based on your commenting history doesn't seem so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:15 PM
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No they get way too much blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:10 PM
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Funny I'm a woman and have had the same experience with men. My husband is the only one out of many who even brought it up. Men just go for it without even checking the girl is on BC first and don't put on a condom on (most don't want to anyway, it doesn't feel as good as I've often asked) they just assume the girl is on BC and cry as a victim if she isnt. They don't take control of their reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:07 PM
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Nah OP is making a point. Men post the reverse of this constantly. You all are successfully illustrating what she's trying to show- you are biased when it comes to single parents and assume it was the woman's fault
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:02 PM
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You technically can but having it happen, having it happen in a healthy live birth is statistically rare for old men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:44 PM
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Lol every man wants a family...Jesus how delusional 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:41 PM
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I've had 4 miscarriages in the past 2 years likely stemming from DNA fragmentation from my almost 40 husband. The people in this thread are idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:40 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:39 PM
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Extremely rare. I go to one of the best fertility clinics on the coast so my doctor with one of the highest success rates knows more than you. Stop using outliers! If it was that common sperm banks wouldn't have an age cap of 40
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:38 PM
1

Finally an honest answer
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:53 PM
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You don't really know for sure she did though people lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:49 PM
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Lol what a load of horse crock. You my friend are an outlier !
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 08:47 PM
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When dating I never wanted a man who made alot more money than me, despite what the Internet says. Dated many men who made some more, the same or a bit less. I have many reasons for this but it's essentially I don't like unbalanced relationships and think men act worse if they know they have the upper hand. Now 6 years into marriage even when I work full time my husband will make nearly double than me in 5 years. (His field has higher earning potential while mine I'm almost at the top) thing is …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:41 PM
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Does good things without expectation of some reward or return. Happily married to one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:35 PM
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Men want an attractive woman who is awesome in bed first time yet doesn't have a high n count. Make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:34 PM
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It is for some, not all. I don't think men have as many emotional needs especially tied to sex as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 05:30 PM
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Men dislike it for the same reasons women don't like Entourage
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 10:25 PM
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They meet (online, via meet up, via mutual friends) when she's 35 or 36. Married at 36.5 or 37.5. Start trying right away. Get successfully pregnant by ages 37-39, start trying again right after that birth. Then proceed to lecture their younger 34yearold infertile friend (me, while them being overweight and Im not) that "all you need to do is take a vitamin to get pregnant and figure out when you ovulate" 😆😆😆 (wish I was exagerrating, I'm not, kill me now) also 3 of my cousins got knocked up at …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:03 PM
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I haven't found that to be true at all. In fact, all of my friends who got married in their 20s are in either incompatible or downright toxic marriages (the 2 gals in this main group near my age, their marriages suck, everyone in the group gossips about it). Out of the older 10, 1 is kinda iffy the other 9 are good. My other friends I don't see as much, I see the same thing...I think people get better at choosing a better partner for them as they get older. 🤷 it's almost as if people, gasp!, bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:57 PM
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In my social circle of 13 married couples with kids I regularly socialize with, 10 of these couples got married when the women were ages 36+ and they started trying to have kids right away. All were pretty easily successful. 2 of them had a miscarriage but then again got pregnant right away successfully. All but 1 have 2+ kids. Yet I'm the only one with consistent fertility issues. 2 other gals are a year younger than me and have had no issues. I've been younger than 36 for 90% of my fertility j…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:26 AM
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Yet you'd expect your woman to do the traditional stuff in a LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:23 AM
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If this happened in real life they'd be disappointed to learn they are expected to be BOTH
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:57 PM
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Men swipe and then decide later. Matches mean absolutely nothing. Majority of men match most women then make decisions later. They don't decide they prefer the average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:58 PM
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I have, I'm not a super attractive person so I don't get that many back 🤷🤷🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:56 PM
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Your reading comprehension is atrocious. Your screenshot of my comments do not support the statement you think I'm making.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:55 PM
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??? Makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 12:47 AM
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Yeah I 100% agree. The looks Dailythread here is 😬😬😬 its full of men nitpicking clearly above average women and calling them average. It really explains alot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 12:35 AM
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Only a minority of men find alot of women attractive. Most focus on the top 20-30%
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 12:32 AM
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Stop taking social media as real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:27 PM
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If by options you mean terrible unsatisfactory casual sex where she's used as a masterbatory tool and isn't liked as a person, then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:18 PM
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Because when women follow their intuition they are usually degraded for it, so many women don't do it consistently
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:17 PM
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Hmmmm I've had plenty of average looking friends show me their apps and matchs continously (they ask me for advice since they know I did them for a decade, i dont really like it though) none get the amount of attention you state. I once had a below average roommate do the same and she got virtually no attention. If you want a slim and pretty face woman, that's fine, but those are the top % of women and stop generalizing those women's experiences to every woman. Also I don't follow any users and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:08 PM
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The only women who are so strict with requirements are above average women. The only women you pay attention to. Men overlook average and below average looking women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:37 PM
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If men were more picky in the first place this setup wouldn't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:36 PM
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Doesn't matter she can tell. Yall aren't as smart as you think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:35 PM
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Yes many do. I did apps for almost a decade. I definitely had many guys clearly not all that attracted after 2 dates keep trying to push things I found it odd. Many are just desperate and don't care about the actual woman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:34 PM
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Average and below average women feel the same as this. Men are at the mercy of an above average woman choosing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:32 PM
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Lol at the OF models being the most swiped on 🤣 yet men here proclaim they don't go for the top hottest woman 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:30 PM
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That is rather fast. A year is when you truly start to get to know someone as the honeymoon phase is wearing off. Most people where i live 1 year is the minimum to be engaged...its usually 2 years. I wouldn't say a 4 month relationship is casual though I agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:57 PM
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I mean those people were single once and voluntarily chose someone in their league. Perhaps men just need to pick someone in their league? Most perpetually single but looking men irl who say this stuff are too introverted or shoot too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:43 PM
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My husband and I are very very similar so for us, yes. We both are at a healthy weight, have some interesting hobbies, hobbies that overlap, similar sense of humor, extroverted introverts, same sexual values and family plus financial values, make decent money (he makes more than me but not by much), good communicators, kind etc. He said when he first described me to his friends he said I am the female version of him. For everyone else? It depends on what it is. There are basic things needed for …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:01 PM
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The majority of couples in this world are evenly matched in terms of looks and socioeconomic status. So the women you are describing are a minority (I understand why you focus on them though, women like that tend to be the hottest and that's the woman men give the most attention to, and thus they generalize constantly here, they dont give attention to the plain more boring woman who wont do that)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:55 PM
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Most couples are evenly matched in looks and socioeconomic status yet women are delusional 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:53 PM
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Men on this forum say we cannot vet properly if someone turns out bad after 3 dates!!! With a man off an APP! The dude is a literal stranger still yet we are supposed to "know." Bonkers
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:30 PM
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Nah. Usually it's the man not wanting responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:15 PM
5

Agree. Reddit.com attracts childfree people
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:13 PM
3

Wow the first guy is terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:52 PM
2

Yep this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:51 PM
3

Hobbies is nowhere near the most important thing for a relationship lasting
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:49 PM
4

Flair checks out 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:44 AM
3

Submissive means to me not making decisions which means most of the time she will end up doing what the man wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:25 AM
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Most women don't do it regularly men are much more likely to desire it regularly. But after being friends with 2 groups of women who did do it kinda regularly I'd say they did it for validation
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:03 AM
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It's so much easier for men to be at a healthy weight compared to women. God is cruel that he made the sex valued for their looks have much more delicate metabolisms and weight changes for weight loss due to hormonal differences. I used to be really into bodybuilding and friends with alot of personal trainers and trainers into clients they help for shows don't like taking women as much due to this. The trainers who brag their methods are the best find themselves stumped with more women than you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 11:48 PM
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Yeah modern women provide. Please get with the program this is 2024 not 1950.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 11:46 PM
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If we count emotional abuse as abuse this is false. Know too many guys really only into super b****y women because they're exciting
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:51 PM
0

Men have options if they vet. It's low odds she'll be super hot and exciting though 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:49 PM
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Men judge facial features, facial symmetry and body shape (most prefer hourglass which is small waist, big boobs big butt with hips and shoulders in line-9% of females naturally have this shape) which are all genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:47 PM
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I don't know hardly anyone like that. It's more likely you are just harsh when rating a woman's appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:30 PM
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I say this all the time here...over and over. Go look at the Looks Dailythread. It explains all the "no average girls want me" comments lmao. But they're delusional they are really convinced above average girls are average.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 12:22 PM
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Never did.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 12:20 PM
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This casual sex sucks for women not worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:25 AM
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It is a point- it's not fair at all to hold genders to different standards
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:01 PM
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How weird. Men do this and expect women to deal with it then say he shouldn't be judged as a LTR prospect 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:32 PM
2

Honest. Honest. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:31 PM
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Most women I know work like men yet still are the default parent and do most of the housework, are more hard on themselves as they age than their partners despite aging better alot of times, and they strive to be an emotionally healthy partner while their partner just "acts like a man." I know 2 women not doing this, but they have pretty significant mental health issues
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:12 PM
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I don't know any "entitled" women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:07 PM
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I have led a social life, I've been through way more people than the average here, and the percentage of women who do this is abysmally low.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:17 PM
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Women can never ever win that's why. It's a huge waste of time to adjust your behavior to appease men. Be yourself (unless your behavior hurts others) and hopefully youll attract a good match. No matter what you do, men will criticize you. Alot of their criticisms contradict each other too and they lack the emotional intelligence to recognize this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:14 PM
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She's not wrong though. One of my biggest beefs with modern men is they pick out parts of traditionalism and parts of feminism that benefit them and discount each viewpoints downfalls. They don't actually hold any beliefs, their beliefs are they want what benefits them most and is most convenient for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:10 PM
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Literally every one of these is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:04 PM
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Truly traditional men who want to really just be a provider and don't want a woman to be providing, they dont want a woman who puts out quickly. Looks like you just are picking out parts of traditionalism you like 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:01 PM
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Nope. Go visit the Looks Daily thread here and various rate me subreddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:17 AM
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....way wrong! Go visit the Looks Daily thread here and also all the rate me subreddits
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:17 AM
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Hard agree men here only write about attractive women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:18 AM
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Most men marry their safe option. Its one of the reasons i thought id never marry. They chase after and lust for the hottest woman who has alot of bad qualities and is manipulative and/or selfish then settle for the attractive enough gal who treats him well and will be a good mother 🤷 Get alot of men in a situation where they can bare theur soul no consequences and they'll admit their wife should be the love of his life but they usually aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:08 AM
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Poor and ugly men do this too...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:50 PM
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Yep. Yet women can't use the biological nature excuse 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:48 PM
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Minority? Yah no.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:47 PM
5

They are more motivated to advance their career
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:47 PM
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"Especially sons" 🤢🤢🤢 I really hope you don't have a daughter yikes 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:46 PM
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Yep this describes the true nature of the majority. Consistent sex, household labor and someone maybe to split the bills with
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:45 PM
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I'm curious what you mean "not compatible with my ego" can you explain more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:42 PM
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Okcupid used to be good with this. I don't believe they are anymore though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:39 PM
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Not true for women on online dating lmao 🤣 most matches are duds...meaning men who literally swipe on everyone and aren't genuinely interested
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:37 PM
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Only when treated poorly, illness or extreme stress (parent sudden death). I assumed when single if I got married I'd end up in a deadbedroom due to how men act when the honeymoon period is over. Their behavior and complacency kills my libido. So far though my marriage has been better than I would have ever conceived
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:34 PM
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Damned if you do, damned if you dont as a woman here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:42 PM
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No, men here say if we dont want to put up with it our standards are too high,
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:41 PM
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Yup I'm a woman who likes weightlifting and it made my libido go up. Because weightlifting natural even increases testosterone in women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 08:15 PM
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No they have way more standards than that, they just aren't self aware and/or wait until they come up during dating and relationships. An example: every single one of my exes (and i dated alot in my 20s with no Chads) expected me to effortlessly integrate myself into their social circle of friends and appease them (even ones where their friends were rude to me/didn't like me for no reason) and hang out with their friends while they didn't reciprocate for me. Of course none listed this as a stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:28 PM
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No they don't 😆 they say they can't vet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:59 PM
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You are the problem. Men don't think a woman under 7 is human
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 07:27 AM
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So confirms my comment here men want aggressiveness when it benefits them and submissiveness when it benefits him lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 10:38 PM
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It happened to me and I've been married for 6 years to him. He was 28.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 03:26 PM
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She's usually a 3 to a 6, occasionally a 7. She won't wow you with her personality *personality is bad to good, usually meh in the beginning * and she won't do the little manipulative things to lure you in, in the beginning to "excite" you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:08 PM
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They try to date girls in their own league and stop going for the hottest woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:37 AM
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And sex trafficking would go way up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:36 AM
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Yeah that's a generalization most of my exes wanted a better lifestyle than me
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:35 AM
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It's because you don't like the kind of woman who would want 50/50 . No she'd be too plain and boring
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:35 AM
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I lost it at age 25 and agree with this
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:56 PM
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I live in a dense suburb outside of a major metropolitan city and do not EVER meet guys that dont care about a woman's income. A select portion of men are fine with a woman temporarily not working with small children but once they are school aged she is expected to go back to work- even men with more proclaimed conservative views do this. It may be because I live in a very HCOL area though, its really not feasible for men to marry women with no income potential- maybe 1 or 2% of men can think th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 02:27 PM
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I dont think its cheating but I dont think its a good idea for most relationships based on the effects on the brain it has, backed up in alot of scientific literatire.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 04:42 PM
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People here dont live in reality LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 04:41 PM
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Its based on what benefits them- this is the same with questions of feminism and traditionalism I see posted here alot. If a woman being submissive benefits men in that circumstance- they want it. If a woman being masculine/not submissive benefits them in that circumstance (women approaching is a good example)- they want it. OP is coming at this with the wrong viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 04:38 PM
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Men I approached still did what this replier commented on LMAO. It doesnt matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 04:36 PM
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Ehhh go to the Looks dailythread here. Alot of men wouldnt consider her super hot. Men have extremely high standards now I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 04:35 PM
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Studies show the vast majority of couples are looksmatched and in the same socioeconomic status. I think your 2nd point is the only one I agree with- although I find more women prefer men to show vulnerability now, there are definitely still women who dont. (Also Im a woman and have had issues with people taking advantage of my vulnerability, both men and women, so I dont do it very often now). Women are expected to work like they dont have kids, and parent/mother like they dont work so I dont a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 09:57 PM
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If that is your view on things then people can say the same for men- most men arent totally satisfied unless the woman is hotter than him and becomes arm candy, most cant get that so they have to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 09:42 PM
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Most in their 20s are too dear. Its all ages. Its just likely you are very harsh on rating womens looks if you say you dont see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 09:41 PM
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I mean honestly alot of modern men do this. This is why so many women are choosing to be single, especially older women. Alot of men just worry about work. The woman usually works often just as much as the man, then often she still does nearly everything else and has pressure in other ways still that men dont (keeping up her looks/aging, being more socially/emotionally intelligent too as women still get less leniency in this area) Women are still the default parent too when kids are in the pictu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 07:10 PM
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While we have more rights men still hold the power in society. Thus, they get to dictate they enjoy perks of feminism and perks of traditionalism in dating/relationships without either camp's downfalls since they still get to pick whats acceptable. Of course men 1) dont want to pay for dates or be the sole provider in today' economy...I dont blame them on that one. 2) Of course men want to not be valued for their looks but want to continue to value women for theirs...thats the dream life. 3) Of …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 06:58 PM
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Most couples nowadays are evenly matched in looks and socioeconomic status, also most people are average so thus most couples are average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 06:48 PM
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Nope however Im consistent with my past and values. Ive never had a man get concerned over anything in this realm.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:37 PM
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Each woman is different, but I personally have. When I used apps, I gave men 2-3 dates (occasionally even 4) if there was a *little bit* of attraction but not alot. Because of this, I had so many men I went on 2-4 dates with where it stopped that I cannot even give you a number (and sometimes they ended up rejecting me, not always me doing the rejecting). To be fair, sometimes this did lead to relationships. (I had about 4 shorter relationships start this way in my 20s). I very rarely am smitten…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 03:26 PM
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I 100% feel this. A man using escorts in the past would just be a sign we arent compatible with sexual morals/beliefs. These men can date women who have done similar things because they hold the same views as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 02:46 PM
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Thats because casual sex isnt good for women. It benefits men so more men seek it out. Yes, if a woman wants terrible unsatisfying casual sex with a man who is not actually interested in er as a human being, she will have an easy time. There arent too many women like that, thats what men seek not women. I dont blame you- its weird to think y'all go on dates knowing you'll have an O that night. I cant even fathom it honestly. Also, in my experience there are women NOT like what you describe, but …
/r/Divorce_Men10/10/24 05:01 PM
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Women end up bearing the burden later though, so it evens out in the end. I actually think I'd rather pay for the first few dates to a few months than bearing the burden for potentially years. Maybe I dated different than y'all (I always offered to pay on the first few dates but most refused and honestly the ones who didnt ended up never being into me, at least thats my experience) but after the first few dates I usually ended up doing more work later (cooking at my house rather than going out) …
/r/Divorce_Men10/10/24 04:57 PM
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Yep, I love being denied miscarriage care due to Roe Versus Wade being overturned.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:05 PM
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Im married now but when younger and single refused to date men into casual sex. I find it no coincidence that with myself and friends' relationships, manwhores or aspiring manwhores, made lukewarm at best to poor relationship partners. Plus, I prefer someone with similar sexual values to myself. I was not surprised at all reading studies showing personality and character traits that highly correlate with people who engage in casual sex- in fact science isnt really needed. My husband is hot AF, l…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:00 PM
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Speak for yourself- my social circle describes my husband and I as one of the most happily married couples they have ever met.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:59 PM
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Studies show for BOTH genders actually, the more casual sex you participate in the more likely you are to divorce if you marry. Its because people who engage in a good amount of casual sex score highly in these areas: -egosim -superficiality -impulsivity -tending to become bored -hedonism Tell me do these traits make someone a good LTR partner? Ive had female friends marry manwhore men because they bought this Disney idea that a manwhore man will settle down with you, become satisfied with you f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:57 PM
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Yup, I always vetted for manwhores when dating. Men who like casual sex make absolute trash LTR partners. Studies show for BOTH genders actually, the more casual sex you participate in the more likely you are to divorce if you marry. Its because people who engage in a good amount of casual sex score highly in these areas: -egosim -superficiality -impulsivity -tending to become bored -hedonism Tell me do these traits make someone a good LTR partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:54 PM
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Same way so many men on here say a woman at 24-26 BMI is fat but when I send them the picture of the woman they are like "OMG she is SO hot!" (Same men who say no one at a BMI of 25 is not fat...well guess what, if that woman gains weight mostly in her boobs and hips and has done years of weight lifting, she has a small waist and is HOT) Yet men use that as a strict filter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:52 PM
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Its much easier for men to maintain a healthier weight than women. Men naturally have more muscle mass- thats why I hate shows that have weightloss challenges that dont account for this. Biologically speaking, its no surprise the men lose more despite less effort. Women's hormones are harder for weight loss. I use to be super into body building and trainers, usually for bodybuilding competitions, did not like working with women who werent on birth control for this reason- they said their methods…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:49 PM
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"This whole you’ve never seen attractive men sleep with average women is absolutely insane to me. I can’t even begin." You probably see very attractive women (by other people's standards) as average. Explains the difference in perceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:47 PM
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Why all the downvotes? Your comment is true. Its likely the men making these statements are unnecessarily harsh with rating women's looks. Go visit the Looks Daily Thread here and see all the ratings of above average women as "average" it really explains alot of this behavior. They say men who are 9's date women who are 6's, because in REALITY- the woman is actually not a 6 she is at his level. Its just in their very very harsh eyes she is a 6. I mean they call Margot Robbie "mid" PPD attracts v…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:45 PM
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What 7+ isnt going to be a slut by your standards- how delusional. Ive never met a 6 that can end land a guy 9 even for casual sex. Another delusional take. Women dont prioritize physical beauty nearly as much as men- men can easily date up in looks, women cant at all. Men are hypergamous in regards to beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:42 PM
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You do have a chance. Most women are less superficial with looks than the average man especially if he makes up for it in intelligence, charisma or personality. With men, there is no "making up for it" Men prioritize physical beauty higher than women, even on traits listings for marriage material partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:41 PM
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"the equivalent of this would be an average guy barging into a club, picking out the hottest bombshell on the dance floor, approaching her and upon rejection start philosophizing how much of a "shallow whore she is" for failing to see past his looks" I mean the average man here does this. Please go to the Looks Daily Thread here. Men consistently rate "above average" women as "average" then complain no "average woman" wants them. They are actually likely shooting out of their league then if they…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:35 PM
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"Why is this such treated as such a big deal when told to women? Why do a lot of people get very defensive when women are held to the same regard?" Women are held to the same standard. I dont know any people IRL telling average looking women they will find a model man who makes over 100k.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:52 PM
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I care about morality for literally every semi close relationship (not just dating) that I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:11 PM
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Some people absolutely do care about moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:10 PM
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Men do that too. Go visit the LooksThread here, so many rate above average women as average then complain no average woman wants them and everyone once in awhile if they do, she is shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:10 PM
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Why are you one of the few reasonable men here... Being better emotionally is just part of the pie.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:09 PM
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One of the reasons I didnt see my first boyfriend long term is nobody thought he was nice. I want someone who matches my values.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:05 PM
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It is...but unfortunately a high % of American society contains not nice people. But this is what happens when capitalism runs rampant in an already individualistic leaning society.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:05 PM
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Nope, being kind is an absolute requirement for me. Being kind with no other traits (intellectual, attractive to me, not a bum) is a no go. I need all 4 characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:04 PM
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I dont wonder- I know. I work in a social services related job and have been through more people in one year than the average PPD replier has in their entire life- the overwhelming % of "not nice" people got partners who have mental issues/attachment issues, who got duped until later in their relationship and dont break up due to sunken cost fallacy (surprisingly high number of people do this) or who value the jerk person for things other than their character (for example, I know several women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:02 PM
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Amusement park is not the same as dating...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:59 PM
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If you go to the dating subreddits there are actually quite a few women who end up deciding to not have sex with someone they are seeing, or to not return after sex the first or first few times, due to the guy not being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:59 PM
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I agree. I think "nice" is "kind" but the Internet taught me my view is wrong...that being "nice" means you are doing something with an expectation of some return treatment and if you dont get it, you get mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:58 PM
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If women are rejecting you for being rude, unkind and/or for having a more abrasive personality "be nice" is good advice. But that applies to a smaller % of men (I have rejected men for this reason before though- I was attracted to them, we had things in common and I liked other parts of their personality, but I require my partner to have empathy and dont be a douche and that is where several failed).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:57 PM
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Your definition of equality is not most people's definition of equality. Most men dont want equality in that they want the woman to put in more work and sacrifice more than men do, essentially they get to be more selfish and not judged for it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:24 PM
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I dont have any *truly* casual experiences because I didnt have sex with men if I knew I wasnt interested in seeing them again, and wanted a similar partner, so based on my own definition which is where we did it as part of the dating process and then sometime usually shortly after it ended for some reason (major flaw came out, figured out we were incompatible etc) Ive never had a guy have sex with me and literally ghost me after. Best: none, they all were meh or sucked bad. Never had a good cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:15 PM
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"The whole problem with the CB relationship was that they both admitted they were in the wrong, yet no one ever criticizes Rihanna for her role in it." WHAT???? I rarely read stuff that DIDNT say Rihanna caused it LOL you have confirmation bias...If a guy tries to murder a woman and doesnt succeed and people find out once 10 years prior the woman tapped him on the head during an argument playfully everyone says "Mutual abuse!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:02 PM
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If its the man doing the abusing, its always mutual abuse because women apparently "cause" abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:01 PM
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There arent many unique to men other than the draft but none of these men have ever been drafted so it doesnt apply. Ive read alot of Mens Rights and hate on women subreddits and they describe alot of things men have done to me on a regular basis that they claim are only the "male victim experience."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:00 PM
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It limits women way more than men. Patriarchy benefits men way more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:59 PM
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" the first to be taken care off when something bad happens, amongst the first to be shielded from danger, the first to be attended to when injured." Not the case in modern American society.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:58 PM
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Yes, I am not average so I find it unlikely I'd be satisfied with average. Based on your definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 04:48 PM
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Probably not but based on your definition I am not average. I'm goofy, have a wide range of interests including things that are not mainstream, on ratingme forums I get anywhere from a 6-8.5 and I look like the women in fitness forums on reddit, I have a Masters with a lot of additional training and I enjoy learning and reading in my free time. Personality-I am not sure. I think I am close to if not average compared to people around me but it is very relative and subjective. I would say if I am …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 02:39 PM
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Mature women know what they want in bed and in studies, have significantly more orgasms. They also tend to have higher sex drives too. Men prefer younger women because they know women their age are less likely to put up with their sh** and we are harder to manipulate into having an unequal relationship. Sometimes its because they look better although I know alot of women in their 30s and 40s who look just as good.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 02:28 PM
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Society and men shove it down our throats men dating younger women is fine and we shouldnt judge them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 02:19 PM
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Many dont want kids though- an important piece you are missing. None of my 40+ friends in relationships with men (usually mid to late 20s) want kids. LOL at your word "compensate" God forbid any woman mature and evolve. Do you act exactly the same in bed as you did when you were 21? Only men are allowed to mature I guess, everything a woman does is seen as a character flaw or a tactic ridden from insecurity/fear, not simply getting older and changing as a result. Also, women peak sexually in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:20 PM
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*certain* people will, yes. Not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:54 PM
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No, once the people in my circle find out their ages, he gets gossiped about. Also most people look their age so you are talking about exceptions. Most men Ive met who say they get told they look younger than they are by others I dont agree with anyway. But Im polite and dont tell them that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:47 PM
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I agree and despite what society tells me, finding out on a date that a guy made significantly more than me was a turnoff not a turn on. The men probably thought I felt the opposite. I find men that significantly outearn their partner: expect the woman to show more traditional signs even if the woman open says she is not traditional (a more sexually pure woman, a more submissive woman, a woman who wont care about her career in the future etc) use their money to "get out of" or get more leniency …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:33 PM
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"If a guy is handsome and has a great career and dates 20 years younger with a hot woman, that will boost his social status. It’s the opposite with women dating much younger men." In my social circle that guy is seen as scummy and is gossiped about alot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:56 PM
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The average age difference in relationships is 2 years I have a few older female friends (40's and 50's) that date younger men. And get into relationships with them, not FWB. They do this because they are very active and they say men their age cannot keep up with them or have too much baggage. (These friends of mine are never been married or had kids as they had no interest, one accidentally had a kid at 18 but that kid is an adult and never home) I live in a progressive area, but I have several…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:55 PM
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You cannot 100% vet a person. The best way to vet a person is time. No one has a crystal ball. When you get in a relationship, you are accepting the risk that you are committing to someone you dont fully know and/or that they can/will change. If you are afraid of picking wrong and being told "pick better" then the only way to avoid this is to not date. Particularly in the beginning of relationships (friendships, romantic partners and even close co workers) people put their best foot forward and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:18 PM
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I mean you say that until the reverse comes up- this forum is filled with men using evolution to justify their dating preferences and choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:17 PM
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What is the definition of "hook up" Its such a broad term...I didnt read that particular thread. If a hookup is sex before a relationship, I mean most men require that. I view "hook up" as having sex with someone you know for sure you dont want to be in a relationship with. Having sex with someone on the 6th date and things are going well and you havent written them off in the dating process, hope it goes somewhere, then a week later finding something out or it stops for whatever reason, isnt a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:55 PM
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Its becoming more common to shame virgin and inexperienced females now, hookup culture has gone too far. Even if a guy doesnt mind the lack of experience, it will come up in some way later when he uses it against you. Unfortunately the first few guys I slept with when I was young did this, told me I didnt know my own body sexually when I asked them to do something (that they just were too lazy to do)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:44 PM
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Men get sex quickly with women that do choose to date them most of the time (within a month of dating) and if they dont, society accepts them complaining about it. Men, they always get an O from it too. (with none of the risks of pregnancy, more severe side effects of STDs and stigma if you care what others think). I honestly cannot fathom what it is like knowing you'll hook up with someone and get a really good O from it. Its hard for me to imagine that. Its more acceptable to go Dutch now and …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:25 PM
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Mentally ill men find partners and lose them due to illness related behavior all the time. I could write a book about this subject as I use to work in a healthcare field that attracted a lot of mentally ill men (dual diagnoses).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 04:50 PM
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Men could care less about quality it seems. They just want validation and their orgasms. Thats why they equate bad casual sex on the womans end (she is used as a masterbatory tool and isnt even actually liked by the guy) as success in their eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 04:49 PM
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They cant keep relationships though. And my SIL now has 3 kids 6 and under, one with a disability, she has 70% custody of right now. Honestly, with how her mental health issues impact her and will impact her kids, it would have been better for her to never marry. The others cannot keep a boyfriend. That is pretty damaging. They admit their mental health issues deter men. I get you maybe dont think this because you struggle to get anyone...but being alone is much better than a string of short rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 04:47 PM
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I actually know 4 women in your first paragraph in real life and they cannot keep a LTR. Men do not want to support women financially on their own anymore (and I dont blame them in this economy, you need to make ALOT of money) and women are held to higher social and emotional standards in relationships. A woman with significant mental health issues cannot provide that, they cannot even meet very basic standards. My SIL was lucky enough to find a guy to marry her who made bank with money and she …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 04:04 PM
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I mean the vast majority of women do all of that when working the same amount as their man, so men are getting that. Heck, even breadwinners do 50/50 on chores, at least studies show. Good luck getting a man to do 50/50 on chores if he works even a tiny bit more. Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:51 AM
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Only if they want kids and if her income isnt enough to make a comfortable life happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:50 AM
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You should- this kind of advice is what men here give to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:49 AM
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No he wont, its in his "biological nature"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:48 AM
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"Where are these women just blindly accepting the fact that they’re only desired for sex?" Literally everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:47 AM
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Choice of being single- tons of casual (bad, no O given) sex with men who dont care about you...yes. Relationship? Like an actual relationship where he cares about you and is willing to compromise/work with you...no. A relationship all about him where he doesnt care and you're a tool for his life and you must fit into HIS life and hes really with you for superficial reasons...not a full yes, but close to it. If a woman has a choice of getting a good relationship easily and saying no...she is an …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:29 PM
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Thats only for hookups, for LTRs thats not true. Studies have shown Looks are in the top 5 traits of what a man looks for in a wife, but the reverse is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:58 PM
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I rarely see men more attractive than their partner (and usually its because she changed after having his kids, its never from the get go). Most women are fine dating a guy less attractive than her. Men arent even willing to consider it unless they are a small % who are very desperate (unfortunately these are the type of men online alot so they make it seem common, its not in the real world)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:57 PM
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Huh, why are the vast majority of couples in this world evenly matched in looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:46 PM
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Men are picky with looks. Men who are 8's sure as heck arent swiping on women less attractive than them. Men tend to score easier with women too good looking for them as more women are less picky about looks than men are. A woman who is a 9 or 10 has no issues dating an 8, not the reverse is true though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:44 PM
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Im in the USA. Early on, I made 65-70k, he made around 85-90k. We split nearly 50/50 when we lived together, engaged,... after marriage pooled money. He only paid exclusively for the first few dates then we switched after, although we did alot more dates at home after date 3. I find most couples near me follow this pattern. After our daughter was born (and Ive been going through fertility treatments for awhile) I switched to part time. I make 45k and he makes 110k+bonuses due to a promotion wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:40 PM
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It depends on the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:34 PM
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Usually men that want SAHMs as wives, or a wife to reduce her hours so she can take on the burden of the house and kids while he just worries about his career too. Then they reap what they sow when they divorce. And there is no connecting of the dots...all of a sudden when they divorce its likely their soon to be exes are golddiggers and I dont know, didnt screw up their career trajectory for theirs to flourish.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:33 PM
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Oh ok, so if you read my original reply you fall into the second camp. "If you dont sleep with them early ---> "she is a prude/too reserved/not into me enough/low sex drive/too much baggage" So still women cannot win. You likely rejected a woman actually interested in you at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:26 PM
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You say attention like its a good thing. Tons of men who see you as an object, dont give two shits about you as a person and really just want to sleep with you (and itd be bad sex, they view women as masterbatory tools, not people who want pleasure like themselves) isnt really "attention" the way you view it. Its garbage to wade through. For an actual relationship, where this is a chance of mutual connection, genders are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:18 PM
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Men trying to date their looksmatch dont have issues worse than women doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:07 PM
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Please re read the last paragraph of my reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:03 PM
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Women are less picky with looks than men, but men are more desperate. They are probably equal in the end with options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 06:46 PM
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If a woman constantly has a choice of a good relationship, she is not average. Another man who only pays attention to above average women and then delusionally calls them average...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 06:02 PM
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He will eventually, then they screw it up. Alot of male repliers here do this, then come back and complain there are no good gals in their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 06:00 PM
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Depending on how bad these are, I might call you entitled or too self centered for a relationship. Alot of guys want the woman to do all the compromising and changing while they dont. Or they have a list of things they cannot bring to a relationship that they expect the other person to do. Thats entitlement and self absorption, not being an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:59 PM
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Oh and you directly ask women this? When a woman says I prefer to take things slowler...you directly ask questions about who and when/how many dates she slept with men in the past to make this assumption about her? right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:57 PM
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If you sleep with them early---> "she is a slut/dumb/whore/unintelligent/too impulsive" If you dont sleep with them early ---> "she is a prude/too reserved/not into me enough/low sex drive/too much baggage" The line where a woman acts perfectly is verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry thin on this subject and the line depends upon the man (of which women dont know where that line is, we arent mind readers) And for the repliers saying "oh, as long as you are consistent with men you date on when you sleep with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:56 PM
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Welcome to being a woman- where no matter what you do, you cannot win. Refusing to date someone not good for you is not incel-like behavior. They probably called you that for other comments youve made.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:52 PM
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Plenty of men act like him. You are thinking of his mob life, which rarely comes up during the sessions. He talks about relationships with his mother, his sister, his wife and other people as motivating his behavior and how they shaped him. Particularly the issues with his mother. In the episodes with extensive therapy scenes you easily forget he is a mobster, he has very common themes and problems that people today have. Also he was not a psychopath, at least not until the last season.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:47 PM
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I highly doubt it is hardcore incompatibility causing him to do this- whenever something doesnt go his way, because he is incapable of compromising (which every relationship needs, even the really compatible ones require it) he breaks up with them. Explains your other comments about him. Its not an admirable trait in the slightest. "every woman proceeds at her own risk"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:00 PM
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No, self centered people ACT that way in therapy. I work in social work and while myself, am not a therapist, many of my co workers are and they state how he acted is how self centered people act in therapy. They actually use scenes from that show during their schooling to discuss how to work with people like that in individual counseling. Tony also didnt talk about his work during therapy- he used it to delve into his relationships in his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:54 PM
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No they arent- they refuse therapy, dont do the work in therapy and even if they make a relevation in therapy they dont consistently apply it. They also often try to make the therapist agree with them and make the therapy validate what they want. Watching Tony Soprano go through therapy in the Sopranos is so realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:04 PM
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Assholes cant be saved, thats the difference. Avoidant attachment and self absorption are resistant to any sort of psychological help.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:03 PM
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Eww your brother is trash. "Arent going the way he likes it" What a way to sugarcoat a self absorbed tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:02 PM
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This, also likely Adam will eventually find someone. I have so many male extended family members like this and they all met someone later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:46 PM
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I'm in my mid 30s and my friends that are the most career obsessed (I wont use the word smart, because there are many different types of smarts) do not have kids and dont want them or do have one child but its because they got accidentally pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:36 PM
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Men expect women to work and financially contribute (they prefer women to make close to the amount of money they do so they arent the "sole provider" but not more so they arent emasculated) AND to be the primary caretaker and default parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:34 PM
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Well yeah why wouldnt a man want kids. He gets the status boost from it without bearing the brunt of daily work, responsibility and sacrifices (career, free time, mental health, body) from it. Men's lives dont change all that much when kids enter the picture- it rocks the woman's world though. If I were a man I'd want a huge family!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:32 PM
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Im not so sure I was a "loser" when younger but I was not that attractive and had low self esteem, could be very quiet. I was bullied alot. I could be social but only around certain people. I dated some "loser men" then and I dont fully agree...see my notes: virginity: a female loser is likely a virgin (Nope, maybe in the beginning its nice but then they start complaining when you arent GREAT in bed and hang your lack of experience over your head later) youth: female losers are usually young bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:18 PM
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Sorry your parents suck :(
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:14 PM
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Most I know are actually that self aware. Although I really dont like the word "loser"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:12 PM
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I dont agree older men are necessarily better- I find most older men have alot of baggage and hangups. Men in their 30's all seem to be emotionally off in some way if they are single and have had past girlfriends. You will often "bear the brunt" of their past mistakes with women. I also think most men look way better in their 20s and early 30's than men older than that. In my social circle, virtually none of the mid 30s and up men look "just as good" as their younger selves. At my highschool reu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:58 PM
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Overwhelmingly, younger people are more easily able to be manipulated. There are exceptions but these are exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:55 PM
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You are missing an integral part of that argument. Women on average have FAR less free time than men in marriages with kids. Even if men work more, women are still working 24/7 outside of sleep. Add up time spent each day doing housework, cleaning, other chores, planning, childcare and working and women ALWAYS have less free time pretty much. Men might work a bit more but they slack in the other areas so at the end of the day, their net result is they have more free time (and often on more sleep…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:56 PM
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I think the current predicament in America for marriages is what men prefer: men being the one who makes more money so they do not feel emasculated, but their live in gf/wife still works and makes decentish money (or up to what he makes but not more). This way, the guy 1) isnt solely the only provider (this is a lot of pressure...especially in today's economy, so do not blame them for this) 2) he gets to feel "masculine" and lean into his "provider role." Whilst doing this, he can still expect t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:45 PM
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No, people assume virgins have low sex drives (not always true but people assume nonetheless) and they find it annoying having to "teach" someone bedroom skills and believe you will be bad in bed for awhile (again, not really true as with all new partners this teaching happens anyway, one can also know their own body sexually, but again, assumptions!) They also can assume you will become super clingy early on, have sexual hangups, are religious, must have some past trauma or worry you will want …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:54 PM
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Alot of men are actually turned off by women who are virgins or low n counts irl. This virgin lover thing is really on the internet only
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:05 PM
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A doormat is someone that continually allows disrespectful or hurtful behavior. Nothing she said was doormat-y
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:08 PM
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Well I'd avoid that man...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:01 PM
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People with similar sexual values should date each other. The past does matter. It shows how you view sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:55 AM
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For the same reasons why what men say they want in a woman and what they pursue and/or value in a woman in their actions don't align.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:15 AM
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This is the only thing on her list I don't agree with, I concur.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:14 AM
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Insatiably. I met him off of okcupid in early 2016
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:42 AM
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Most women don't get consistent orgasms from sex anyway. That's a huge factor here. Women can easily rely on vibrators as a substitute. Men tell me sex feels better than a flashlight so it's not a substitute for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:52 PM
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Yep men naturally do this anyway in their 20s. They beta bux and settle like they claim women do
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:51 PM
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Yes. Women are held to higher social and emotional standards than men so I agree with this. Men benefit from relationships more than women overall
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:48 PM
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You were married? Yikes 😳😳😳
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:23 PM
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Majority of men are picky. They just aren't aware enough. Their requirements tend to come out more during dating. They don't list all of them outright when asked
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:18 PM
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Yup these co workers are red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:03 PM
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40s alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 01:30 AM
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Sounds too hedonistic
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 09:22 PM
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Perhaps. I don't understand why women would desire an extremely unbalanced relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:03 PM
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Advantages i would like: doctors take me more seriously. I just work but have a wife and kid to boost my status. Meanwhile my wife works and does nearly everything else. I dont have to nag her for this setup either. Less judged for my looks. It's easier to be at a healthy weight due to more muscle mass. People don't judge me for aging. Once I lock in a relationship I can coast and get more leniency for being selfish. Past mistakes are accepted for "immaturity" reasons. If i get married im much m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:54 PM
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Yup and men do the same
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:15 PM
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It's the same as men wanting a girl who is the perfect 10 and the perfect 10 personality too (meaning none of the usual flaws you constantly find with people who are stunningly beautiful)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:15 PM
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I would never go for a guy like that. I've had super rich men ask me out. I find their lives and lifestyles unappealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:13 PM
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Half of my SAHM friends became one later because their husbands only wanted to work. Not work and come home to other duties
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:24 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:29 AM
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I've ended it with men after intimacy due to how they act right after, not due to bad sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:49 PM
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Studies show it does affect how you see others and view sex, especially for people who regularly watch it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:42 PM
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People often do it when their partner is willing though. Actually porn studies show this to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:41 PM
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You have one at least, you're just not being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:34 PM
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No relationship exists where you are 100% compatible 🤷🤷🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:13 PM
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🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:06 AM
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Less than a third of women can climax from just PIV
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:04 AM
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Your studies are wrong. Majority of women cannot orgasm just from PIV 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:04 AM
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Most women I've met that openly talk about their sex lives say they don't consistently orgasm from sex itself so your experience is an anomaly. Statistics back me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:01 AM
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No orgasm gap is because the majority of women don't orgasmvfrom penetrative sex and men either won't do the other work or women don't know their bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:59 AM
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Lmao this describes certain people not men. I have never treated a guy this way but have had several men do this to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:52 AM
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Yikes poor girl. Within a week?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:50 AM
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I live just outside a major city and a woman's earning potential and job status is looked at heavily here. I agree with you. Someone in my social circle refused to propose to a girl until she made 65+k a year (even though he made over 100k easily). He isn't a weirdo for doing it either. I wouldn't describe either person as materialistic either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:48 AM
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Doing only fans, obese, very unattractive face, cheating on a past partner, chronic/out of control hoe phase where everyone in her social circle talks about it, wanting to wait til marriage for sex, severe mental illness, drug abuse issues, homeless and according to men here, being a single mom (even if she has split custody and a good arrangement/relationship with their ex)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:43 AM
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"Many" women? The average woman is certainly not. More proof men here pay attention to clearly above average top 5% of women and generalize. Give the plain boring chick a chance. You won't, you aren't into her, and she will defy your judgments.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:41 AM
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The majority of porn degrades women and the amount of men that think porn is realistic sex and they wish or try to re enact it with women is concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:39 AM
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Statistics don't back this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:35 AM
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I've only had 1 where it was (my first relationship at 19ish. Young and dumb) I don't need to give an explanation for someone who hits me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:28 AM
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I've said we are sexually incompatible, the relationship is not equal/they expect more of me than they are willing to give (I usually gave specific examples), they take out their baggage on me, not over an ex, they lie too much, they don't fulfill my emotional needs (unsupportive, or emotionally distant) etc. For men I've rejected- "you're not my type" (not attracted) or "you don't have the personality I need for dating" (usually men who are too arrogant, critical or superficial, or party types)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:25 AM
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I'm a very honest person. The majority of men I've broken up with, and some men I've rejected only when they ask, I've told them why. Most don't believe me or just argue with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 12:00 AM
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It is if you are realistic and are able to compromise. Some people aren't good at one or both of these.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:58 PM
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Hmmmm some circles do. Particularly well educated people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:17 PM
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When it starts affecting how they view and treat the opposite sex (as many well done studies have shown) I do care.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:00 PM
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Great comment. I view sex the same as her and didn't have issues finding men who waited (heck some made me wait) not all men have sex with anything. I also have a similar background
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:13 PM
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Yeah I don't understand I see here all the time that women should be ok with sharing their man. Not the opposite (red pill)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:11 PM
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I highly doubt any of my close male family members would. They mostly defy male stereotypes. I am very picky with male friends I seek out, so no, i trust them. I have 2 friends married to jerks I'm wary of. Not sure I'd call then "friends" though. I talk to them only because they are my friends' husbands
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:02 PM
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I agree so much with this. Looks, attraction and chemistry are 3 different things and this forum has no concept of them. Especially the last one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:46 PM
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Yup!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:44 PM
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Not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:43 PM
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Nope. My clitoral orgasms have a range. My intense ones give me an all over body shake and are like a drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:42 PM
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He was not my after choice? Only guy I knew I wanted for sure to marry early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:41 PM
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This describes my husband as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:40 PM
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Average married couple has sex twice a week. Once a week if they have kids under 9. So false.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:39 PM
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No. Yes. Yes. You have chemistry with this girl. Chemistry is different than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:38 PM
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Men here want a world where they don't have accountability and women need to understand that they generalize and not take it so personally...yet everything in reverse for this in terms of genders is not acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:24 PM
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I find men do this more than women IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:05 PM
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I've had all sorts of female friends in my very social life. None have been anywhere as bad as you describe, most not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:04 PM
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And? Way more people online do what you wrote just hating women instead. No one cares then. Men don't take accountability the majority pick poor women with bad qualities that are obvious early on then generalize
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:03 PM
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That's because they hate certain types of men. Not all of them. I don't know anyone who hates all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:59 PM
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Social media is a diary- I'll have to remember that one. It's very true. Alit of people irl hold these thoughts they just hide them (as they should)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:58 PM
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I had it said to me when my waist was 26 inches, and you could see some ab lines. Definitely wasn't fat. Most men prefer curvy but not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 03:25 AM
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I had trouble at that age. I met my husband at 28
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 03:15 AM
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I don't have a preference both fine
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 03:14 AM
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Yeah this post proves men aren't good at judging other men's attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 03:11 AM
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Yes this. OLD is like walking through a minefield
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 03:09 AM
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It's interesting because men here are hating on the female responses yet men use the same language when describing how men can sow their wild oats yet make a good husband later when they decide they want a wife. Double standards much?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 03:01 AM
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Men that settle down after having a promiscuous past use the same language to justify why they wouldn't be a bad husband though. Why can men do it if women cant?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 02:58 AM
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Most of the time there is though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 02:56 AM
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What's the point of conversing with you if you don't believe anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 02:54 AM
0

People have different preferences and thresholds for looks. For instance I'm a very short woman and I don't notice height. Every man over the age of 12 is taller than me. Men over 6 foot actually are a disadvantage for me. Some men prefer chubbier women for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:43 PM
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Men are 4x more likely to cheat and 7x more likely to leave when a woman is incapacitated
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:50 PM
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^
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:45 PM
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I'm 37. Happily married for 7 years. I did OLD apps from ages 20 to almost 28, on and off. Did some dating with men I met IRL. Going on dates isnt hard most of the time, a satisfying relationship was difficult. Alot of men don't start thinking of commitment until their late 20s and lie about it, along with other intentions. I lost my virginity card later in life and that scared away men (for reasons about me that weren't true they were assumptions). Finding someone compatible (where i can be mys…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:05 PM
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Depends on your field. Finding a decent paying and not very stressful job in my field isn't easy. So I'm not picking "a partner" right away like some here are. I still think it's harder to find a good partner though by a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:35 AM
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My husband joins me in believing this place is our reality tv
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:33 AM
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Well you had a woman and treated her badly. Your issues go beyond looks. Can't be too invisible if you got a gf, even while being selfish like you admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:09 AM
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Most women bear the brunt of this in relationships 🤣 men can't handle it for 2 months...sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 10:27 PM
4

In general people put their best foot forward in the beginning and true colors come out later once they get comfortable- I see this all the time with both genders in platonic, professional and romantic settings
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 10:16 PM
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Same reason men can't vet women properly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 10:14 PM
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The average American marriage contains two people working full time yet the woman still does the majority if housework and childcare plus planning. Women are also held to higher emotional and social standards plus we are judged for simply aging
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:43 PM
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Go after girls on your level
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:38 PM
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Feel bad for her
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:37 PM
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Men get continuous expected emotional support and get taken care of when they get married. Women don't. Women get more stress and expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:33 PM
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Actually studies show single women on average are happier than married women...the reverse is true though gender wise
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:28 PM
3

Men do this alot too to women lmao 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:26 PM
11

In sociology we call this intersectionality. Someone should also include their socioeconomic status plus sexual orientation because that affects things too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:43 PM
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Disagreeable, dull, unsociable, not very interesting, men with a history of being a douche expecting a girlfriend who is the opposite of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:46 PM
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I agree with this. But I think if Gen Z is already isolated and depressed this culture is even worse for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:15 AM
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Nope. Gross 😝
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:20 AM
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Yup. Once a guy who did this kind of stuff chased me hard for a relationship later and went ballistic and went "but-but-but I'm not that guy anymore" when I rejected him. He thought a good girl would want him 😆😆😆
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:45 AM
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Nope, you're just another hypergamous male.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:30 AM
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Yes, and men with a bad past and bad personality do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:27 AM
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Girl was above average and dating in a city.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:23 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:06 PM
3

What motivates this comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:41 PM
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Men don't have trouble if they are a normal person and date in their league
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:40 PM
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Men do literally the same thing to women all the time. They chase after 9s in their 20s or sleep around with whoever then pick the safe girl to marry when older and even if she is pretty much perfect he takes her for granted
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:10 PM
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No average men here say they won't. They say if she doesn't sleep with him quickly they assume she doesn't like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:40 AM
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Men in Maryland, DC and alot of Virginia want a wife who makes alot of money/works like him AND runs a household like a traditional wife though. Best time to be alive as a man here, life is so easy and most relationships benefit men way more. I luckily snatched one of the few reasonable ones. If I hadn't met him I would have never married
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:56 AM
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So she needs to drop her panties right away for you but none of her past men. K. Have fun being delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:53 AM
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I absolutely do considering all the posts about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:13 AM
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Only men get to do that. Women are judged for it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:04 AM
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Rather difficult when most men write off a girl who doesn't sleep with him after knowing him maybe a total of 8 hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:03 AM
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Not me. I've always been an old soul. I started looking for my life partner young and saw no point in casual relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:02 AM
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Not where I live
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:15 PM
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I live in a suburb outside of Washington DC. They absolutely do care and do not want a dependent
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:11 PM
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I'm 36 and none of my friends in their 30s date women in their 20s🤷 14 married couples I socialize with. All of us in our 30s and early 40s too 🤷🤷🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:10 PM
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Their sample sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:07 PM
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Most people today marry their looksmatch and socioeconomic status even with OLD. I'm in my mid 30s, most of my friends' met their husbands online. Studies confirm this 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:05 PM
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They see you as easy to get with and manipulate. Not very nice women have brazenly said this to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:02 PM
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Men propose to low value women all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:00 PM
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I live in Nova. It's embarrassing you're near me. This tactic is pretty thirsty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:58 PM
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Has nothing to do with women. Men in their 20s are immature and view marriage negatively and like a prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:26 PM
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Not where I live. Men consider women without financially stable jobs to be leeches
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:24 PM
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Literally not a single one of my many bisexual or gay friends in college wanted commitment. Its only slightly better once they get older. Mitch and Cam arent really realistic TBH
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:53 PM
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Most men DONT want to get married in their 20s. So even if she did use that time more wisely it wouldnt matter. Men are much more likely to want to wait awhile for marriage and then they marry whoever they are dating at that point in time. They are less likely to want to marry the best girl for them no matter what age.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:50 PM
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Roe versus Wade? A woman cant walk into an office without permission from her husband to get her tubes tied. Yet a man can do this without her permission (vasectomy) All sorts of reproductive care is not covered by insurance yet insurance coverage of Cialias and Viagra is easy peasy. (since when does Viagra prevent a man from becoming ill? It doesnt).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:46 PM
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The men I know that go for older women arent settling, they prefer financially stable, more mature women who know what they want in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:42 PM
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Another hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:42 PM
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"not giving into the temptation of very easy sex that's handed on a silver platter to them, etc. are getting very rare" Well yeah because most men nowadays pick and choose parts of feminism and traditionalism: they want a girl who puts out quickly (lest she not be INTO him) so yeah...as a result, most women dont have a history of making guys wait. You simply cannot have it both ways LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:38 PM
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Only if the man wants kids. If he doesnt, not really. Being childfree is way more common now so the first happens alot. Probably half of men in their 30s on apps realistically dont want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:37 PM
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Why are YOU so adamant about everything? You seem to think in absolutes. Pot meet kettle.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:31 PM
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Well yeah since men here think "all women bad" and "men good" when actually behaviors they describe describe BOTH!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:31 PM
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Two people with mental illness together can rarely work. The mentally ill person needs more patience shown towards them, and another mentally ill person really cant do that consistently.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:26 PM
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Men do that and use it against you later when they can- it doesnt have to be mental illness it can be anything vulnerable about you really.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:25 PM
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People with mental illnesses are likely to treat others poorly. I have experienced this with several men and several friendships too (mostly female but some male as well). Its a good thing to be cognizant on. Actually RP doesnt support men dating women with mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:25 PM
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Men do this to women all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:24 PM
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The second one has happened to me many times. Men just expect women to uproot their life for them without even having a conversation about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:24 PM
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Not really. Ive always had a lot of gay friends (I dont know why, I seem to attract them, maybe because Im an insane goofball) and 90% of them complain about commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:10 PM
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False- even women who spend time on their appearance get nitpicked to death. Please go to this forum's Looks Dailythread and see all of the nitpicking of clearly above average women being called "average"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:04 PM
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False. My two ex female roommates were not morbidly obese. They were between overweight and obese (and did not carry it very well I might add). Facially they were average. We did OLD apps at the same time and they got one "Hi" message every other month, no actual messages. After a year of this I never talked to them about my OLD experience as I did not want them to feel bad. One of them ended up with an autistic very overweight man with mental issues years later. You are a liar. Also Tindr is fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:02 PM
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Not true. Only the above average women you pay attention to do this. Average and below average have to put in effort. And no, lots of random casual sex with guys who dont like you dont count. Ive noticed PPD men only count the "above average" woman's experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:00 PM
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Boyfriend? No. Meaningless sex with a bunch of gay guys...yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:52 PM
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2 couples in my social circle the man did marry her 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:48 PM
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Yup I've seen this with my single female friends in their 40s who take good care of themselves. Younger men can keep up with them and have less baggage than men their age. Younger men find their financial stability appealing as well. More and more men don't want kids now too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:47 PM
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Men here are only for evolution and biology when it benefits them. And argue against it when it doesn't further their interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:35 AM
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Hm gender neutral ones lead towards men though
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:23 AM
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Most of the internet is xychromosomes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:22 AM
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I'm not burnt. I'm actually happily married but the men here are dumpster fire trash. Op is nuts thinking this place is the appropriate place to post this. She'd have better luck in /r/love and /r/relationships. Men here just love to demean women and use mental gymnastics to support criticizing women. So sorry I actually read here? 😆😆😆 PPD is reality TV not an advice and emotional support forum for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 04:49 PM
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Are you kidding me? Most of reddits social subreddits are male centered 😆😆😆
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:46 PM
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I mean it is. I read here nearly every other day
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:44 PM
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They don't according to here. They become bitter and generalize
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 10:59 PM
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That's a female forum. This isn't supposed to be a male forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 10:51 PM
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It's already in your comments
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 10:45 PM
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Except if you're a man from PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:46 PM
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Lmao at any woman who comes to this forum thinking it's a safe space to share men hurting you. The men here are vicious and don't act in good faith. Any vulnerability you show they use as a way to mock, demean and criticize you and say it's your fault. She must not actually comprehend posts and answers she reads here. Quite interesting when a woman posts this she's the "common denominator" but when men post this they are victims 🤔 and it's not a reflection of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:45 PM
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Same thing men do when they get involved with a girl (that they chose) when she treats him like crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:42 PM
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Except when this scenario happens to men. Then none of your bullet points apply and they aren't the common denominator they are the victim!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:41 PM
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I love seeing this response compared to when this post is posted with genders reversed. What hypocrites
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:40 PM
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Only as a woman. Whenever this is posted with genders reversed it turns into a "woman are terrible" bash fest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:39 PM
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Anyone with avoidant or disorganized attachment style would.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:38 PM
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Funny how when this same post is posted again with genders reversed men don't say that. He's always the victim then. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:38 PM
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Alot of times it's their attachment style. As a secure attachment person that sounds bananas to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:36 PM
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That study has been debunked dude
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:35 PM
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Do you want me to send you 100 posts of men saying they deserve to rape women and a bunch of men agreeing with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:34 PM
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Men here pick and choose whatever benefits them. Hence all their contradictory statements
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:32 PM
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Just choose better. Follow your own advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:31 PM
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Whenever I post a stat benefiting men but hurting women that's 10% men here say it's rare 🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:30 PM
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Actually I studied evolutionary psychology in college and women are wired for marriage to not like high n count men. Because he's a liability- he will cheat and knock up another girl and you'll lose resources for your children. Monogamy exists because it's the best way to ensure children survival
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:28 PM
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Nope and that's for good reasons too. Bisexuality men are highly likely to cheat. Bisexual men and high n count men are liabilities 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:26 PM
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That'll never happen though. People who have casual sex are more likely to score higher in these areas:impulsivity, egoism, hedonism, superficiality and tendency to become bored. All terrible traits for LTRs, hence why they are more likely to divorce if they marry and more likely to cheat too. Most casual sex people aren't going to just wake up one day and not have these traits, especially people over the age of 25 doing this. Their brains are fully matured.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:23 PM
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Nope, I dated a bunch of virgins in my 20s (most of the time I didn't know, they told me much later). I did once dump a guy when I found out his player past though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:19 PM
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No, men with higher n counts tend to have traits that make them poor choices for partners. Studies back me up on this too. So I did vet for that!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:17 PM
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Also PPD men: if she doesn't sleep with me by date 3 I next her! Also PPD men: she needs to be socially intelligent and charismatic! (Meaning shes in high demand and is a catch but never dates and rarely sleeps with anyone) Their math ain't mathin'
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:13 PM
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I went through a phase where I was heavily into bodybuilding and 90% of guys that are into it are straight up douchey. I didn't want to date them and knew while I would have then met their insanely high beauty standards then I wouldn't forever. Prefer to not have dated someone with that lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:10 PM
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Bud your girlfriend is bad news
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:08 PM
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Yup, they are really focused on looks foremost in women and have high beauty standards. What a headache.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:05 PM
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This comes across as douchey, pass
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:04 PM
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The men in your life aren't on average better looking. You have really harsh and overly critical views on women's looks and give your own gender more leniency. Study after study shows the vast majority of couples in this world are looksmatched and begin in the same socioeconomic status 🤷🤷🤷 your personal anecdotes don't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:12 AM
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They're nuanced in that everyone perceives beauty differently. So what you think is a 5 others will think is a 3 or 7. Moreover for many people if you know and like the person IRL that affects it too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:06 AM
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He's not average or does something to repell women, or he gives up after a couple women then becomes an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:04 AM
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I have done this alot as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:01 AM
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Nah most men don't want to commit unless it's a woman out of his perceived league. If he can't get that he will eventually settle for his own league only, not below, in his 30s, i see that alot. Men focus way more on looks even for LTRs which studies do show... though they do care about other things, looks is just weighted more and makes up more of their pie chart for needed requirements. Women aren't as visual and are more accepting for lower looks, even more so if the guy makes up for it in ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:00 AM
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I've been saying this for years. There is a smaller % of people who are willing to date below their league but OPs point is generally true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:07 AM
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I wouldn't want a guy who has sex with random internet women he doesn't know he likes and has known her for maybe 6 hours total. 🤮 he probably has a high n count if he does that. Sex isnt some casual thing. It has nothing to do with guilt or disliking sex either. A guy who has little standards and screws everything is so unattractive. I prefer guys with similar sexual values to me. When single I had no issues with finding men compatible with me. Guys into casual sex are likely to have poor trait…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 05:36 PM
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When you really like someone you don't have sex with someone else. That's why you see my first comment. Also I didn't date men who did casual sex, they rarely make good LTR partners
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:35 PM
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Most of my friends with guys like this are with guys not very into them. And its obvious to others. No thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:18 PM
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Alot of them end up cheating and saying "we disconnected" or "have nothing in common"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:04 PM
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The only woman I've met in my 36 years of very social existence who didn't want to work and also didn't want to do the lion share of domestic labor is mentally ill. She has serious mental health issues. Perhaps men should choose better.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:02 PM
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If it's off of an OLD app I didn't want a potentially long first date so I personally don't agree. Way too many forced long dates with rude men, men who couldn't hold a conversation or talk about anything but themselves and men that don't look like their pictures. Awkward
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:58 PM
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Yeah actually the divorce forums have alot of these relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:55 PM
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My body always looks the best with 1-3 hours of cardio and weight lifting a day. (this includes rest time between sets...) Diet helps lower body fat % but it doesnt help with body shape and tone. For a woman, body weight isnt enough, you need a particular shape. This forum is rampant with men hating just plain thinner women. Also women could spend all day doing other beauty related things to make themselves prettier than men are oblivious to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:51 PM
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I mean most women are 6's and even below..dating would be tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:50 PM
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The emotional, household and social requirements from men are way worse than maintaining my looks. I wish my looks were the only thing valued, life would be quite simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:49 PM
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The emotional, household and social requirements from men are way worse than maintaining my looks. I wish my looks were the only thing valued, life would be quite simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:49 PM
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Nope, once a woman enters a LTR looks are just ONE of the MANY things she is expected to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:48 PM
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Ive never understood why people stop caring once they get a SO. Maintaining attraction is very important. I also dont want to force my husband to be a widow at a youngish age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:48 PM
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Ive not arguing about men versus women in terms of attention. Im stating average women do not get overwhelmed with attention, they get a small amount. If a woman is getting alot of attention, she is definitely not average unlike what men here think. Most of the men here are chasing above average women (which is fine but they arent admitting it).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:46 PM
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When a man describes pumping and dumping, sure, your reply is true. When a woman describes it, no, shes being pumped and dumped. Ive never been described as a cold fish and have generally had the higher drive assuming the relationship was going well, and I'd refuse to participate in phone sex (how awkward) so your test has flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:38 PM
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Well 67% of single mothers using the legal system and not verbal agreement dont receive child support consistently, so not too sure about the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:35 PM
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If men sought women in their own league they'd have 10%, thats why I dont think your experience is worse. Most people in this world are average people paired together.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:34 PM
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"Needing to extensively vet a ton of men who are interested in you is annoying" This only happens to above average women. Truly average women dont have this option, a good chunk are absolutely not actually interested in you as a human. Your second paragraph is so pointless, men do this to women who dont ridicule men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:32 PM
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Average looking men pump and dump women all the time. Its not just Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:31 PM
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I mean the majority of men here spew that to us all the time. We do in fact listen. We are berated if we dont put out early, then berated when we cannot read minds instantly with someone we spent a total of 5 hours with and get pumped and dumped. No matter what we do, there is NO winning.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:29 PM
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Its not an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:26 PM
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Do we have the same ex LOL. Personally I think avoidant men prefer clingy women for egotistical reasons and mental health issue reasons but they'll never admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:24 PM
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Yup, I find it is 1 more often than 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:24 PM
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Nope stop excusing disgusting behavior!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:43 PM
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Alot of married women actually were not happy, hence why now when not being forced many don't want to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:31 PM
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Women definitely were not!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:30 PM
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This is more the result of people becoming isolated from each other. All types of social groups are suffering now not just your mentoring groups. Divorce rates and marriage rates are going down because people aren't being forced to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:29 PM
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Great comment
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:27 PM
8

Actually studies show men are 7x more likely to leave permanently ill or disabled wives than the reverse...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:27 PM
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Men usually only really value women too good for them. They're hypergamous as well just as they accuse women of being
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:10 PM
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Alot of men beta bux or settle for their wife just like they accuse women. I know several men who chased after too hot for them and/or manipulative women in their 20s who weren't good to them and do the hot and cold thing. Yet these men put them on a pedestal and treated them better. Then these men marry a plainer, more stable/boring, loyal woman in their 30s who makes a good mother and wife. But he doesn't have passion for her nor treats her that well...however she benefits him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:07 PM
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I can attest to this. On my old account in my 20s, I posted my pictures on those rate me forums not just on Reddit but elsewhere because I was so insecure and low on my looks. I consistently was rated between 5-8, with a 7 being the most common. And I thought I was UGLY and most men I dated nitpicked my looks in some ways. EVEN men that others said werent attractive enough for me and EVEN men that at some point said "you're too hot for me" It is SO easy as a woman to have low self esteem. Men he…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 08:50 PM
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Alot of plastic surgeons overdo it. There are some celebrities who you really cannot tell they had surgery but theyve been open about getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 08:49 PM
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Then why do most short men I know get dates and are married?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 08:48 PM
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This applies to women too. Men are most attracted to certain facial features (makeup does not help the average person with this, the average woman is not a Youtube beauty guru), with facial symmetry and who has a certain body shape (not just weight). I think OP personally overstates how much makeup iteself helps (surgery does, its why the average celebrity looks way better than the average person, pretty much every celebrity gets at least a little bit of plastic surgery.. But I wont do that) Mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 08:47 PM
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As someone who used to love makeup as a hobby neither one of these is "natural minimal makeup" "Even as subtle as Eyelashes extension make a huge difference to pop out the eyes. Even a small eye liner for the fox eye will change the appearance." Very few women where I live wear eyelash extensions or fox eye eyeliner. "is catered to watching beautiful women then you start to believe the female form is beautiful, so that means even the plain jane is beautiful."---> no it is the opposite. There are…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 08:44 PM
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I want to know this story...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 08:40 PM
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Nope, its not a good thing and its not better than receiving no attention. I'd rather receive NO attention than sexual messages and dickpics thankyou.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 08:40 PM
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" the ones (girls) that did talk were only asking about how much money I made or what car I had or if I was dom. The normal car? Girls wouldnt talk anymore. A high end car? Girls came flocking. But none were interested in me as a person with a life and hobbies etc." I had a similar experience talking to men on OLD apps. The vast majority were terrible conversationalists.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 08:38 PM
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Where did I say every? I said most. And what about rape? You sound triggered 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:04 PM
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Maybe if marriage benefitted women and didn't just create more work and stress with little return investment this wouldn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:42 PM
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Some do, most don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:33 PM
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No one says women don't do these things. Men are slightly more likely to do some of these though due to biological and social conditioning reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:31 PM
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Yup the best done studies show they're the same
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:30 PM
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I agree people focus on outliers. Studies show the vast majority of people date their looksmatch and in the same socioeconomic status when they meet. (We aren't counting temporary SAHMs with children 5 and under.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:27 PM
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Agree. I've never seen it. Probably the man is treating her poorly, and thus the woman responds by treating him poorly, then the woman says she doesn't need to stay in a bad relationship since it's not 1950. Then OP sees it and spins it in his twisted way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:10 PM
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Awww someone can't handle they aren't right 🤣🤣🤣 it has to be he's lying 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:06 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:05 PM
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What an insanely odd comment. He has said I'm the only person he's met, romantic or platonic, he can 100% be himself with. He didn't change he's always had depth
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:02 PM
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65% of American men were overweight when I was single. Some of the remaining 35% were just not attractive (but expected me to be). I didn't ignore the remaining 25% but 25% isn't alot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:55 PM
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They are very boring and not stimulating, intellectual nor self improving hobbies. They're the equivalent of shopping, makeup and Tik Tok loving women. Men like this tend to not be great conversationalists either. Also I found most men expected me to adapt to their sports and video game schedules...no thanks. My husband did some of both of those but he luckily had other more interesting and enriching hobbies. He also has a curious mind which men heavily into sports and video games tend not to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:50 PM
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When I did OLD, it was hard to find men who were good communicators, good conversationalist and had hobbies and interests outside of sports and video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:45 PM
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No it doesn't. None of the sites I used when single did this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:44 PM
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They aren't necessarily. Really if you're attractive dating is very hard. Slightly more so online than offline. Just being at a healthy BMI and not an ugly face will weed out most your options unless you date down. This is true for both genders. When single I had the ideal hourglass shape, good body fat % and cute face. Very few matching men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:43 PM
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You think you know someone is decent based off of OLD site messages???? Truly delusional. Absolutely no way in he** is that the vetting process
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:41 PM
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Women are socialized heavily to value relationships more than men. So most accept it or try to do the nagging thing to get him to stop. Also men often do this slowly over time, not overnight. Most women know it will be difficult to find an equal relationship so she's more likely to tolerate it. The overwhelming majority of equal relationships I've observed are only when the woman is pushy and dominant
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:36 PM
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I 100% agree. Studies show even when women work the same amount as men they do more housework childcare cooking and planning. Even breadwinner women still do alot. Studies also show SAHDs do less than SAHMs and women married to SAHDs do more housework than the gender reverse scenario. I've led a social life and rarely see a couple not like this. I'd say around 10% of couples living together does the guy even cook at all. It's one of the reasons I thought I'd never marry. One study shows just mov…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:31 PM
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What she describes is in line with the majority of married couples I know. I regularly socialize with around 12 couples and only 2 contain men that regularly help with cooking
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:29 PM
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Actually studies show it is true
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:28 PM
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I know plenty of them. Although I'd replace every with "most"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:27 PM
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I actually did this with a very good male friend of mine 8 years ago (I was doing OLD heavily and he wasn't at all... but when I offered to set up a profile for him and help with sending and responding to messages he agreed). It was not as doom and gloom as men on here say and we lived in a suburb. My friend is a good guy but our values are different and he is definitely average looking. He actually ended up married to someone he met online (not okcupid which is the site I helped him with, but a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:21 PM
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Only seeing women for their looks is indeed not marriage material buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:00 PM
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I find most relationships the women pays later on...Ive never dated a guy who paid for the first 8 dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:52 PM
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You arent marriage material, just dont do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:48 PM
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Most women work and 8% of divorces get alimony of which the overwhelming majority last for a few years only. Stop watching The Sopranos.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:46 PM
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Ok, but she is still allowed to assume you'll cheat and your prime years are behind you, and youll get old and fat. Its fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:43 PM
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You're still a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:33 PM
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You can have your paternity test but then your wife is allowed to not trust you/assume you'll cheat and you cant get mad about it. Also she is allowed to say you will "just get old and fat anyways" and your prime years are behind you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:32 PM
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No, do not twist my words. You can easily end up with someone who does not have all the qualifications you wanted, but feel you cannot do better and are enthusiastic. At least well adjusted, healthy, stable, reasonable people do this. Your username indicates you arent like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:13 PM
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You're toxic trash! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:52 AM
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You cant meet too many 19 BMI women in the wild I imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:45 AM
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Yup you are EXACTLY who I am talking about. 19-25 BMI is healthy and actually BMI is not a great measurement, its body fat % Your looks standards are extremely rigid, explains your problems. BTW when I was at a BMI of 19-20 in my early 20's people legitimately thought I was anorexic. It wasnt until I hit a BMI of 22ish that I started getting so much male attention it was annoying and also messed with my relationship at the time. So you are an outlier it seems thank the Lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:43 AM
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LOL ok, keep saying that so you dont figure out the problem is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:34 AM
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Studies show even when working like men, women still bear the brunt of childcare, cleaning, cooking and planning and also that women are held to higher social and emotional standards than men, so I am gonna disagree with you on that one. You just have a bad woman picker.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:33 AM
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Studies show the overwhelming majority of couples in this world are looksmatched and in the same socioeconomic status when they meet, so you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:32 AM
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Most men dont do the stuff you listed in relationships. They expect the woman to do all of that. I dated quite a bit in my 20s and literally no man would ever move his work schedule for me, especially if it disrupted his sleep (in most LTRs it slowly moves towards the woman being more sacrificial) or frequently buy me gifts just because, or help me with my errands. You have a bad woman picker and could easily find a woman who does all of that for you- much easier than the average woman could fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:29 AM
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Particularly for marriage with kids, women get less stress and more free time. American marriages contain women who are expected to work like men, still do the majority of traditional stuff, upkeep her appearance after doing all this or they experience more flack from society unlike men, and women are held to higher social and emotional standards. I mean seriously reread this...men would NEVER sign up for that but expect women to. Every single woman Ive met who has a truly equal relationship has…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:25 AM
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For women being single gives you so much more free time. For American women, they work like men and still are expected to do all the traditional stuff. Its no coincidence that my exes mostly had families where their fathers had time for hobbies and their mothers didnt because they were so stressed doing everything. Single women in studies are rated as happier and I can see why.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:19 AM
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I dont see that as settling. I think its more you dont feel enthusiastic about the person or think you can do better (whether that is correct or not)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:18 AM
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Where I live they are common, but I mean a truly "healthy BMI" Alot of men on this forum only think the lower BMI range is healthy and looks good.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:16 AM
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This happened to me (luckily it wasnt a super long relationship) and 10 years later he is the only one of the social group not married or in a serious relationship, kinda funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:14 AM
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Poor girl
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:14 AM
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If they stick to someone at their level, they have more than they think. Problem is most men want a woman too hot for him and too nice, emotionally adjusted and/or sociable for him as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:13 AM
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Life isnt this black and white...I once had a guy make me wait longer than an ex (he had I think 2 exes when we first started dating) because he saw me as long term material. I highly doubt he didnt have desire for me considering when we broke up shortly after he would not leave me alone and kept trying to get back with me. Even years later. People do this thing as they get older and have more experiences...it is called maturing (and changing/evolving as a person). It does not always reflect the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:28 PM
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Men are more likely to neglect relationships and take their partner for granted. Men on average also play video games more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:25 PM
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Uhh...you do realize that happens to women constantly? Average looking women do not get many offers and below average women get hardly none. And that the average age of marriage is 30s (in fact most men prefer that).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:58 PM
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I messaged average guys on apps all the time first. Being basically incompatible weeded out 90% of men, not their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:55 PM
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Its 2 things 1) You are meeting these women in the same type of places that arent compatible with what you want. For instance, if you told me I had to pick my future partner at bars, football/sporting games and frat parties I'd likely be single for life. 2) Your standards you list are not accurate. Ive known men in real life who list your standards and they are very picky. Which is fine, but just admit you're picky. Not every woman who says something you dont like/holds an opinion you dont agree…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:53 PM
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When dating when I was younger I preferred men to not have friends who were exes unless it was a Ross and Rachel situation where the ex is in their social circle and theres no way to stop talking to them. And then I would vet still. I didnt date men who do FWBs so thats irrelevant (that was something I vetted for, I only wanted someone with similar sexual values to me) Friends of the opposite sex were fine though, unless the chick had interest in him and he had poor boundaries with it. Perhaps b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:40 PM
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Alot of people, both men and women, say "youre jealous" when they have nothing else to add and like assuaging their own ego. Never has anyone said that to me and I was actually jealous. I was usually judging them as all humans judge especially those different than us.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:34 PM
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No actually studies show that the more history of casual sex you've had the less likely you are to pair bond with future partners and the more likely you are to divorce if you marry (for BOTH genders I may add) Its a perfectly healthy boundary for someone not into casual sex and seeking a LTR to be turned off and judge potential partners for having that history.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:33 PM
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"Say there is a smart but socially and looks-wise below average guy. What options does he have?" He dates his equivalent here. I see it all the time. The amount of men who go to other countries to get wives is so small it is insignificant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:28 PM
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You are too reasonable to be here LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:24 PM
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Nope, I was never into alpha males.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:20 PM
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I think some of the traits will be on every man and womans. Other traits vary wildly. Its why during the decade I dated alot I was called every adjective and its opposite ("clingy" "too independent" "too reserved" "not reversed enough/too outgoing" "too smart" "not smart enough" etc) It confused me alot until I realized it happened because people vary in what they want and how they view others is very subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:19 PM
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Number 1 has not been my experience at all. Ive been in those kind of situations alot in my 20s and (unless the very rare case of all the women looking the same which happened once or twice) the most attractive women were the only ones men asked out/showed interest in. The quieter, plainer ones were ignored. I remember these instances because the ignored girls always commented on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:15 PM
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I find more often gaming gets in the way of spending time with women rather them neglecting life responsibilities. The second one is a sign of addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:57 PM
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Yep, I dont ever speak into a mic. I get harassed. When my husband and I play and he is in the game with me, he talks to me like Im a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:56 PM
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Yeah this. In the beginning when I met my husband, we played games together a small amount of time and the rest of the time while he was gaming I did my other hobbies, some in the same room as him. However, we always spent quality time together so I couldnt care less he gamed. As I have gotten older and my life has shifted, what little free time we have together we spend gaming. Some of my exes expected me to ONLY play their games and they played them excessively plus they expected me to adapt m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:54 PM
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This comment is real funny. Whenever a woman says this on here, we are told its not true and we just need to "pick better" LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:53 PM
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See, this comment is one of the behaviors I listed above so this is your problem. Let others exercise how they want. Your way is not the best way and not everyone needs to follow you. I would immediately pass on you if I were her. Also, it seems you expect her to adapt to your schedule. When I was dating, I usually only did one weekday date a week. If a guy cannot skip the gym one day a week to spend time with me, or adjust his schedule that one day, he is not for me. This is exactly what I am t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:51 PM
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Video gaming activates dopamine more than other hobbies so its like a drug. For women, a good comparison is that for some of them shopping can activate the dopamine center.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:48 PM
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Yes, men seem to struggle with video game addiction though. I get it- Im a female gamer and when I was younger, I sometimes had to actively force myself to do other things when I got REALLY into a game. Im like this replier and married with a young child so I dont play very much each day anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:47 PM
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Im sure thats true. Humanity sucks. I wouldnt know though Im not a lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:34 PM
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"The housewives with happy husbands aren't making reddit posts." Around 20% of couples with young kids (5 and under) overall have a stay at home mom. Of that 20%, very few are men happy with the situation and not having negative feelings towards their wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:28 PM
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That is a very small % of couples...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:12 PM
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Women suffer from this sort of thing with feminity expectations. We are told to be feminine but cannot do it too much because then we are called too emotional, too vain, too dependent, not smart enough etc. Its a fine line to walk on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 11:52 AM
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I unfortunately had this experience ALOT when I used OLD apps off and on for 8 years in my 20's. Egoism is rampant in men today.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 11:27 AM
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Well I no longer visit r/beyondthebump even though I have a small child. I use to visit that subreddit for support postpartum but stopped because 50% of the posts are about crappy husbands who are able to afford a stay at home wife/mother and later complain about it or make the woman feel bad. Alot of men who can afford a wife like this apparently regret it or lose respect for their wife over it (even though they agree or suggest it in the first place). Those men do like the perks of having a st…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 11:24 AM
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The percentage of introverted people like this is not very high though so I see what OP is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:46 AM
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No, whether you are shy or awkward or creepy is dependent upon physical attractiveness. Shy unattractive women are not seen as cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:44 AM
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Other than the visibility things described here, introverts are more likely to not want to spend as much time with you, IMO they often have solitary hobbies that consume them and might affect your relationship (video games is the most common one) which is bad because my top love language is Quality Time, they are more likely to lack social and emotional intelligence due to not interacting with people as much which are traits I absolutely needed to be happy in a relationship. In my early to mid 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:36 AM
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