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They have so many options that if you don’t they’ll find someone who will.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:20 AM
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I think that applies to men and women in civilized countries. But I see what you’re getting at
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 05:32 PM
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I wouldn’t either, but aren’t men the victims of more crimes? Not saying there isn’t ANY truth to your statement, but that one of your main reasons is relatively weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 05:12 PM
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Sure, just weird optics IMO. I’m not hitting up my mom or ex to infiltrate an app and watch women gossip. If it’s a girl who is my friend, I’d look on her profile for entertainment but I wouldn’t need an acc of my own. A SSN also isn’t required lol. People were saying there’s a background check process, but I’ve also heard in this thread they just ask for a selfie. So I don’t know if they do reverse image searching or something to find out who you are before approving.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:29 PM
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I agree, mom and ex WIFE were just odd choices to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:39 PM
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Read my edit in the post, the app was called “Teaborn”. Someone in the thread said it was taken down by the owner, but I don’t know whether or not it’s accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 12:10 PM
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You don’t have to be on dating apps to get put on Tea. You can narrow your search down to your local area and report on anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 12:09 PM
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Getting more popular by the day. I’m sure we’ll see it discussed in more mainstream online spaces soon. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 12:03 PM
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I definitely agree men will use the apps differently. From what I saw it was more so trying to find women who are easy lol. If moderated, both apps could be useful cause there’s shitty people on both aisles.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 12:01 PM
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It was taken down already
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:59 AM
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I see ty for clarification. Did you find yourself? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:03 AM
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Same happened to a friend of mine in college but he was only accused by his ex because he wanted to break up with her. Took it to court and everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:59 AM
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An app called “Teaborn” was created for men to use, but was already taken down from the App Store. I don’t know the implications behind it, but it seemed to function in a very similar way. I’m not mad it was taken down, but why such a major double standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:29 AM
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With great power comes great responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:28 AM
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They made one called “Teaborn”, already taken down off the App Store
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:26 AM
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😭😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:25 AM
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Great question. Idk how they determine, maybe they have to share their license in the background check process.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:25 AM
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Sadly it looks like where it’s heading
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:23 AM
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Not sure but that kind of site sounds pretty niche compared to this app.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:23 AM
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If you have social media look up “Teaborn” apparently they made one for men to use and it already got taken down lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:22 AM
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Your ex wife or mom would do that for you? Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:20 AM
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You have to take a live selfie and go through a background check. You can’t just use static images. Seems like a lot of effort. Even then it takes a long time to get verified
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:59 PM
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😂 Gotta get on the app first. Unless you have a double agent this seems tough to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:31 PM
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I thought so too. The name implies something completely different. The creator, who is a man, knows what he’s doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:36 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:33 PM
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Great point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:30 PM
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That’s why I said hypothetically. Does anything change if you meet someone organically, and two women who saw you with him give you a warning?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:25 PM
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I could be wrong, but I think your approach is unique. I’d presume most women would just move onto the next guy if multiple red flags are raised. Maybe if the attraction is heavy and you’re skeptical about what’s being said, I could see it. But again, in general, I don’t see why most women would waste time on men with multiple red flags when they can go elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:23 PM
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Scary direction we’re heading in, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:20 PM
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A lot of people don’t use that discernment. Especially if multiple women report bad experiences with a guy. Even if it’s just 2 women who red flag a guy and share their awful experience: Why would a new potential woman even risk it after that? I’d argue that even women who share your mindset would be hesitant to give someone a chance if you were to see even a few negative reviews on a guy you found attractive on the app. This is of course if you hypothetically gave it a chance which it doesn’t s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:17 PM
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While I’m sure that’s true and it makes sense, I’d have to imagine it’s legal or there’s a loop hole at least in the States where the app seems most prevalent. Otherwise I don’t see how it becomes to most popular app in the App Store. It’s been available for a while too; I think it’s just now blowing up as of recent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:13 PM
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Many are questioning that, but I’m sure there’s some loop hole. The worst part is that the men posted have 0 ability to defend themselves or even know they’re on the app unless a woman shows them. There’s a photo verification and background check process apparently to verify you’re a woman. Just that process alone brings a ton of questions from me, but basically biological men can’t get on the app.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:00 PM
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Lmao this is insane but real. Pretty much if you’re caught doing anything leisure it irks most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:53 AM
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They have no incentive to be honest if they find someone they want lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:54 AM
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Cooking I fear
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:48 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 10:59 PM
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Like I said, emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:13 PM
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You must think you’re hilarious. I know you typed this with a huge grin 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:08 PM
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I agree with you, but what happens in scenarios he’s falsely accused and it becomes a he said she said on whether or not he asked “is this okay?”. Even if he’s not prosecuted, he’s going to be socially exiled in his community and for the foreseeable future.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:39 PM
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There are women in here who understand the scenario just fine, then there are you who are overrun by your emotions which is the majority. Your inability to debate in good faith has 0 to do with me. It’s a scenario I created, take it at face value and answer the question lmao wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:37 PM
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Literally 95% of women aren’t debating in good faith, it got old quick. And well said, especially with the edit. They keep throwing stipulations about how it could be revoked when the very essence or core of the consent is that it was initially given. But then you’re bombarded with “tHeN hE wOulD rApe mE aNd uSe iT agaInsT mE!”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:24 PM
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This is an outlier of a response, I think you expressed it very well. Perhaps there is no solution that will ever satisfy a majority of both sexes. We can only hope the proportion of these instances stay low or get even lower in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:23 PM
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This was a simple thought exercise and you’re all failing miserably. Please learn what hypothetical situations are. No shit it’s a “fantasy world”.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:48 AM
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Yes. Are you trying to tell me because it takes effort, they won’t do it..?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:45 AM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:35 AM
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Which is the problem. Can men take no preventative measures besides vetting better?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:35 AM
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It’s annoying having to repeat the same thing, and having people purposely ignore context. I get those concerns though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:33 AM
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This makes sense. In cases where women do falsely accuse men, how do you think the man can prove it was consensual?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:26 AM
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The man in this scenario has a valid reason to be hesitant is the context everyone is glossing over. Therefore making it highly unlikely he’s doing it for ulterior motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:20 AM
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Read edit, don’t disagree with you. While it’s unfortunate he wasn’t thrown under the prison, his reputation is undoubtedly ruined regardless of the verdict. Also I’m curious, in the case of a woman actually falsely accusing a man of rape, how can he prove it was consensual?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:57 AM
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I’m the OP, of course I made up the scenario. Like I said, he has his verifiable, and logical reasoning for wanting to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:37 AM
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Please tell me how a man will prove he verbally gave consent, in a case where a woman is actually falsely accusing him. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:36 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:35 AM
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How does a man prove it was consensual otherwise, in the case he’s actually getting falsely accused?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:31 AM
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All good jokes contain true shit
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:30 AM
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“Rare” is hundreds of thousands of cases. The hell are you on about? I guess we shouldn’t give a fuck about the women who are actually raped since those are rare too, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:27 AM
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Again, not everyone has the same perception skills. Especially when blinded by love or lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:25 AM
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Do none of you understand what hypothetical situations are? Just take the scenario at face value lmao. But to entertain you, you don’t know 100%. Only have context clues from dating, and vetting the guy prior to almost letting him fuck you, that made you think “I logically understand why he’d want to do this, and can’t imagine he’s trying to take advantage of me”. In that instance, simply say it’s a turnoff and I’d leave. But you’re all turning it into some dark twisted fantasy. It’s wild to me …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:09 AM
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Fair!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:05 AM
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It’s C, made that very clear. But thank you for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:03 AM
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That’s great, that’s your reaction
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:02 AM
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The justice system is nowhere near as harsh on women as it is on men, for the same crimes as well. She’d get a fair trial.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:01 AM
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Is a text from the accuser explaining that she’s going to extort him enough for you? Happened to Dodgers Pitcher Trevor Bauer where the false accuser said “next victim, star pitcher for the Dodgers” proof. Or my friend’s ex having text messages explaining how she’s going to ruin his life. Let’s see how you flip the narrative. I’m curious to know just what you need to not think an accused man is most likely just a raper who got away. You’re honestly what’s wrong with society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:59 AM
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Who said it’s the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:46 AM
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In the extremely unlikely case a man gets your verbal or written consent prior to raping you and it holds weight in court, I’d imagine the victim would still have a defense as she was actually raped. The consent would just make it harder, but not impossible. Judges aren’t complete morons.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:43 AM
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Because you presumedly went on a date and vetted this man prior to even getting in a situation where he’s about to fuck you? That’s something that can easily come up in conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:41 AM
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I said that cause you make 0 sense. Just painting the picture, love how you never have a response to what I’m saying. Goodbye
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:40 AM
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You were a minute from letting this man ENTER YOUR BODY, before he pulled that stunt. Asking for consent is what scared you about him being a rapist? I’m not saying it couldn’t be a turn off, or raise alarm bells, but the irony is fucking hilarious that you will fuck strangers not fearing rape, but argue tooth and nail when he tries to get consent for an understandable reason to him personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:39 AM
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Many women are still getting in the car 🤦‍♂️ Are we being serious? Especially if he’s attractive or said so in a playful manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:36 AM
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Some of you are saying the form means nothing, some of you are saying he’ll have immunity. Which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:35 AM
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Fair, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:33 AM
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Well you were ready to fuck him, and he had his last minute reservations for an understandable and verifiable reason. You’re so pessimistic you can’t answer a question to a simple scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:33 AM
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The consent form is not to say he didn’t rape you lol. It’s fine if it raises alarm bells, that answers the question. Simple. Hilarious you still had to slip in the fact that maybe the last woman was telling the truth, when I already said it’s been verified she lied 😂 Just say you’re a girls girl and move on with your night. This won’t be constructive if we continue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:31 AM
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You’re hypothetically ready to let this man fuck you, but the second he ask for verbal/written consent for an understanding reason, he’s somehow a monster. You can’t make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:29 AM
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That’s unfortunate. I personally do not think men who would go to that length to get consent would rape someone. You can paint a million different scenarios but it will end up nowhere. As posted in my edit, this particular guy had a valid reason for wanting to get verbal/written consent. It’s a simple would it turn you off or not, everyone is getting dark.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:27 AM
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That’s like asking how did you know guys you’ve hooked up in the past weren’t going to rape you, wtf? You all make it seem like the request for consent is what makes him a predator.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:20 AM
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You still haven’t answered the question. You’re just creating infinite scenarios that make man bad, woman good.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:19 AM
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Because you got to know the dude because you were about to let him fuck you?? The consent thing came last minute. It’s genuinely not that difficult. Please read the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:18 AM
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You’re literally about to hookup, now there are questions about his character? And I quite literally just said he was PROVEN INNOCENT 😂 The mental gymnastics are insane, Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:15 AM
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Because you’re turning it into something it isn’t. The question was quite simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:13 AM
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Determining the man and woman really had sex is important in determining if the woman was raped. Never implied simply taking one would conclusively say whether or not the sex was consensual. If that were the case, none of this would be a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:26 AM
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A lot of you are taking this ulterior motive route, so let me paint a different picture. He was falsely accused in the past by his girlfriend who was proven to be lying because she was emotionally hurt by him. There are text, and other pieces of evidence that prove his innocence. You are aware of this, and he tries to get some sort of consent from you to protect himself, even if it won’t hold up in court. Simply as a means to have anything. The heavy implication, with 99% certainty, is that he i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:10 AM
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Does this not create a grey area then? We can’t go off “vibes” in 2025.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:05 AM
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Ahh, I see 💡
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:03 AM
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Well I said: “In no way am I implying it’s common”. And my friend (thought he) was in a meaningful, purposeful relationship. I agree with your take that the probability is low, but 400,000 people being raped is not something to sweep under the rug, just because that number is out of 340,000,000 people lol (United States). Just like however many people getting falsely accused is still a big fucking number.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:01 AM
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Real rape was never meant to be an element of this scenario. It was actually very simple, but if you want to go there: immediately report him to authorities, take a rape kit, and bring him to court. If it truly happened, like you said a “consent form or recording” doesn’t mean anything and you will be able to build a case despite the consent form. A lot of ladies are throwing out the probability argument against being accused, but I’d argue that thinking a rapist would actually be able to get a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:56 PM
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I understand that perspective and hadn’t thought about it prior to this post. But yeah I was writing this under the impression/understanding that the man isn’t doing it to take advantage of the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:46 PM
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😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:45 PM
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Sure, one could never be too safe though, right? You can say it’s ridiculous, but you don’t know if he’s been falsely accused in the past to warrant that reaction or not. Fair point, but it’s simply an analogy. You’re right, I meant to say cases where men are the bread winners, which is more often than not, even in 2025. There are many reasons why marriages are down, and fear of getting financially fucked is a major contributor.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:45 PM
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I’d agree, as for my friend’s Ex, I saw the red flags. But not everyone is as perceptive of those sometimes small details. Especially guys who think with their small head.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:37 PM
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Via proven consent, rape kit, misaligned explanation or story, etc. Nothing can protect a man before a case is even built like proven consent can though, which is the point. An allegation spreads like wild fire, and by that point it’s too late. If a woman knows she’s documented giving consent, she likely wouldn’t even accuse the man. And if she happened to anyways, the man has that to protect himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:35 PM
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That didn’t even cross my mind, but like you said, the behaviors and reactions leading up to the act all assure you he isn’t a bad person. He’s simply terrified at the potential of getting falsely accused. Women sign NDAs for celebrities all the time, I don’t think most of them experience what you’re implying. It’s to protect the man, same as a prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:30 PM
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Are you implying a consent form, or recording is not better than nothing at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:26 PM
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6’2, fit, can confirm. Maybe wouldn’t say +0 if it’s for attracting women, but for LTR with a quality person probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:15 AM
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Very different things being said. “Responsibility of taking her virginity” and “Not wanting to work extra hard for sex” sound the same to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:53 AM
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Lol this is not true. She’s getting ghosted because these men know it’ll be an uphill battle in trying to hook up with her. Not because they don’t “want the responsibility” being a virgin at that age would imply she’s looking for something long-term and they either don’t see themselves with her long term, or they are looking to hook up and know it won’t be happening with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:48 AM
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Go start a family g
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:47 AM
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If that were true, you’d know the percentage of men who are “unpredictable” is extremely low.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:49 PM
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Chronically online.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:34 PM
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There are a ton of people you’d never expect to have dabbled in it who have. Definitely more common than it seems, especially when guys travel. I’ve heard tons of stories of men in their early 20s to 40 and up. What’s crazy is for each of them I would have NEVER guessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:10 AM
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I’ve had a bunch of casual sex and ONS, it’s not difficult and it doesn’t make me a better man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:11 PM
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Keep telling yourself that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:12 PM
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Pretending to have a low body count by making a guy wait doesn’t work. We have other ways to gauge that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:44 PM
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Another reason men prefer women who’ve had less partners. Their rebuttal to that is that we’re “insecure” when in reality it’s just logic. Imagine thinking you’d be at the far right of a bell curve in terms of attractiveness to a woman with a shit ton of past relationship/sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:18 PM
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That's 66% more than what you're making. While the volume of men making that is certainly higher, when women make more, they expect a similar percentage difference than the one you explained. There was a study for it that I can't remember off the top of my head. But women expect their man to make something like 30-50% more. I don't think you're unreasonable btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:35 AM
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So edgy and cool!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:06 PM
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How does any of this refute my point of "As women in 50/50 relationships, you simply have to make it a point that you will not do all the house work." The studies you're citing clearly show that the man is working more than the woman, therefore does not have the time to do what you think he should. If you are home more, you will obviously handle more of the duties at home. It's complete bullshit in these cases to say that since the man isn't doing the same amount at home or with the kids on LESS…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:04 PM
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It's hilarious how hard you're trying to run from the discussion and playing semantics when you know what I mean. So edgy and cool!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:50 PM
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Majority of men also pay most of the bills, it balances itself out in those cases. A lot of men who don't participate in their kids lives are that way because the mothers make it hell for them to do so. If it's a 2 parent household where the man isn't working more hours than the woman, I'm having trouble understanding why they wouldn't participate. And cite sources instead of making baseless claims about "studies".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:48 PM
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You picked the wrong man then, not our problem. Cite your studies too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:39 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:36 PM
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It won’t hurt everyone. Women are statistically happier and healthier when they are single. The antidepressants are working. Also sure they may be happier while they're young and the world is their oyster, but most women will regret not having family as they enter their 40s or 50s. Women in those demographics say they're happy because they don't want to seem like they were wrong. Most people long to reproduce, it's biology. ​ Everything from snow plowing, transit safety, medication dosage, medic…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:45 PM
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If more women thought like you there wouldn't be such an issue with dating in my opinion. A LOT of women think that her money only belongs to her, and his money belongs to both of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:25 PM
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45% of you aged 25 - 44 will be single by 2030. This is a slow problem that will hurt everyone. Also how is society built for men when you just admitted such an important factor as dating isn't broken for women, and you don't need to put in any effort basically? How is it built for men with the current suicide rates? What rights or opportunities do men have that women don't? What patriarchy? This is 2023 right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:22 PM
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"With great power comes great responsibility", but as you said in an unregulated society that doesn't apply. It's nice we have the freedom to do what we want in the west, but the ugly side of human nature takes over which will ultimately hurt us. ​ But the answer is that a healthy society tends to force them to via various institutions, customs, norms and even laws. Religion, morality, and empathy are all gone from the States and it'll only get worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:19 PM
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Fair enough, if you don't pay attention to this specific topic it wouldn't make sense for you to have an opinion on it either then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:13 PM
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I don't know you so gonna have to agree to disagree. Not saying it can't be the case in some instances, but every time? You have to look at the common variable. I know multiple people in relationships where she earns more and they all have been together 5+ years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:12 PM
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That's on you as a couple to negotiate. Stop acting like it's not 2023 and men do no household chores including fixing broken shit, taking out the trash, mowing the lawn, replacing your tires, picking up their kids from school or daycare, etc. Let's stop pretending that when relationships are genuinely 50/50, the men just go home after work and do nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:10 PM
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The top men are a minority, so the repercussions on society are less apparent. I do see your points however. I'm not expecting anything to change in a way that will actually benefit men, but more so speaking on what I think hypothetically could "save" the current state of relationships and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:06 PM
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We are talking about the West for clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:04 PM
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Politically correct answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:02 PM
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Well said, I enjoy Chris' content so I'll check that out later. Thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:59 AM
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Refreshing to see this perspective from a woman, thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:55 AM
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Is that what you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:52 AM
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And the “single ratio” has already been explained 60 percent of women say “we are together”. Half the dude say “therse not a ring on her finger”. Show proof of this. Or do you somehow think all the women are saying each other OR that there’s 3 women for every 1 man. A combination of women sharing higher value men, and dating older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:52 AM
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Whether or not they want to do it forever, it's still a heavy burden on the man. I know someone whose wife was recently laid off and they did 50/50. She's very lax about getting back into the job market and hasn't been looking. He's stressed to me that he won't be able to afford their way of living for very long without dipping into savings if she doesn't go back to work. They both make around the same amount. While this is just one example, a lot of women think money can just grow on trees for …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:29 AM
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Not sure what to take away from this. People suck?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:23 AM
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Yeah this is delusion. Most men would be happy with 50/50, loyalty, and helping with household duties. Men who want trad wives can generally afford that lifestyle for them. I recently saw a viral video of a woman in her car saying she wanted a left leaning man who would basically provide, be masculine, "traditional", etc. But all the guys like that are conservative and she doesn't want to compromise her morals. Maybe it's not that modern men want to bring little to the relationship, but modern w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:22 AM
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Idk if it's insecurity or the feeling that it's a necessity. If most women didn't care how much a man made I promise you they would not give two shits. I guess it sounds like men are insecure, but I just think it's more engrained in society. Both of the points you made.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:16 AM
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🤣 It's so sad, but true. This is mostly hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:14 AM
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Read my response ^ I'm curious on your take too. Did you treat your current bf any differently? Why do you think a man would be insecure about something unless you give him reason to be? I'm tired of seeing this argument but know that a lot of bread winner women have non-feminine traits that could get annoying in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:12 AM
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As a man I can't tell you why that would ever make me insecure, in fact it wouldn't. There are probably underlying behaviors or treatments you give towards these men without realizing it. I literally wouldn't care if SHE didn't make me feel some type of way about earning less.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:11 AM
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I swear you all act is if all men ever do is come home and sit on their ass. While that's true in some cases, let's stop acting like it's a majority. "Men providing more financially is literally the only thing required" if you make the same amount, it's not his fault. Not everyone can just "make" more money without killing themselves. As women in 50/50 relationships, you simply have to make it a point that you will not do all the house work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:08 AM
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Yes, all Reddit women are unicorns. What do you think of the general population?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:04 AM
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Do we not adapt to survive and get what we need?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:03 AM
0

Is that what you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:02 AM
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I only refuted the sexless point because you brought it up, this post isn't just about sex, but relationships. I don't think sex is hard to get, but that's not taking into account the reality of millions of men. And no one is disputing sexlessness has gone down for both sexes. The ratio of single men to women in the same age demographic is heavily unbalanced. The article made 7 other points and you split hairs for the suggestion that covid could've been a factor which still doesn't explain the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:01 AM
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Expand on your statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:50 AM
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I think that's ideal. Interesting to note.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:49 AM
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Naturally they will have to evolve again, no? Not saying it will happen in our lifetimes. Especially if the concepts are engrained at a young age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:41 PM
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It's not as much using dating to measure their self worth as it is procreating at the very least in my eyes. But yeah, society is fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:40 PM
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Realest answer. Idk, I was dealt a solid hand and still feel empathy. There's nothing I can do but discuss these issues though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:38 PM
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You can't be serious. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/extrapolate#:~:text=%3A%20to%20predict%20by%20projecting%20past,knowledge%20of%20the%20unknown%20area Or in other words, expand on your point of it being bizarre and baseless.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:37 PM
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Historically (pre 1900s) is obviously not the data I'm referencing. If you're trying to be disingenuous for the sake of talking in circles, I can understand why you're acting oblivious. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-state-of-our-unions/202302/why-are-so-many-young-men-single-and-sexless Just because people are invisible to you, doesn't mean they don't exist. I mean, how exactly are men working low-wage jobs, with a lack of social development, and lack of physical appeal supposed to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:35 PM
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That's so incredibly false. Assuming they're earning the same amount, the only difference would be that the woman bears the child or children. I am not underestimating the importance of that, but that doesn't equate to 80/20. If you're talking about domestic duties, the man can handle those as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:31 PM
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It's gonna get ugly for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:30 PM
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Women don't NEED to do anything. They're holding all the cards. I wouldn't expect them to even the playing field for nothing. I don't expect them to care ever, even if it means ending up alone. But our society will begin to collapse just like Japan's which have a ton of repercussions down the line. Of course people will continue to have babies accidentally, but the 2 parent household is dying. ​ Women aren't in any trouble. It's male suicides that are high. It's the men that are lonely. What you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:29 PM
2

How did you and some of those other women meet your partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:25 PM
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However, as is well known: Men TEND to marry or form a sexual relationship accros and down. Women TEND to marry or form a sexual relationship across and down. How do they both go across and down? You mean across and up for women? Men date and form sexual relationships across and down. As a man and I can only speak for myself, I have never looked at a pool of women, and gone "Wow I need to step up my game and earn more because she earns more than me". No in this sense, money does not matter, in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:23 PM
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I said they "can" make good wages. The opportunity is there, so with the market being more competitive for men now, why are they still expected to be providers to more than half of women out here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:16 PM
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Elaborate on why men shouldn't want kids if the majority of women are to adopt the progressive mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:15 PM
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Extrapolate on what else it could realistically be, and don't use things that aren't statistically significant like a gambling addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:12 PM
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Village? Why are you taking it that far back? Do we even have data for that? And what does fucking have to do with anything? Not only are you wrong as 1/3 of young men are sexless - 2/3 being single, but LTR are becoming less common in general. The minority of men are getting laid, don't extrapolate that to all of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:11 PM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:06 PM
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First of all, how would you measure resentment? Almost half of married couples don’t have male breadwinners, so you think all these women are harboring resentment? And half of all marriages end in divorce, the overwhelming majority of them being initiated by women. Secondly, no, financial issues don’t automatically mean that a man wasn’t providing enough, they can mean bad financial habits of one of both partners, arguments about money, gambling problem etc. I agree, it can be a multitude of rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:41 PM
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When comparing it to historical data as well as future projections, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:22 PM
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Non-trad women still want their man to earn more, what are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:11 PM
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Picking up more household duties is not as difficult as 1.5 - 2xing your income, but I see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:07 PM
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First of all, how would you measure resentment? Almost half of married couples don’t have male breadwinners, so you think all these women are harboring resentment? And half of all marriages end in divorce, the overwhelming majority of them being initiated by women. ​ Secondly, no, financial issues don’t automatically mean that a man wasn’t providing enough, they can mean bad financial habits of one of both partners, arguments about money, gambling problem etc. I agree, it can be a multitude of r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:02 PM
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Well then we have to get to evolving.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:57 PM
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This is true but they are hive minded. What’s “in” at the moment is what goes. I’ve seen the hypocrisy first hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:02 PM
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Yes because I bring the same energy in a internet debate as I do to a relationship. Stop acting dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:26 PM
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How many kids do you have and why have you offered each time?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 04:58 PM
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I’m very much aware of those type of women, but my point is they’re all capable of switching up imo. Did you ignore red flags?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:54 AM
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I see. But some people trying to become doctors or lawyers have no choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:43 AM
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That is an insane generalization. He said “college educated” men, are you referencing bachelor or master degree earning men? Or beyond that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:17 AM
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Another horrible take. How is THAT the correlation here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:51 AM
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Wtf kind of take is this
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:44 AM
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That just means the antidepressants are working, alongside cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:46 PM
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Well said. ​ but I don’t allow it to let me become jaded. I still treat the people around me the same way I did a few years ago, long before I got used and treated like crap. Even if it results in bad treatment, I’d rather be myself and know I’m trying to be a good person, than let my past trauma allow me to treat underserving people badly. And only if most of society thought like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 01:08 PM
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Stop being a bird brain and extrapolate a bit. No one is forced to date anyone, but the manner in which women treat men they are no longer interested is more often not disrespectful to say the least. You're acting as if you've never seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:52 PM
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This is insane. I will use it as a cautionary tale, but will still try my best to find someone with good intentions. I just feel like those random switch ups can't be predicted, it's almost like you can never love too hard anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:35 PM
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This is a perspective I’ve never seen, yet it makes sense. I benefit from women’s delusions, but can see and appreciate how this would literally save society from collapse. How would this work hypothetically though? Women would never agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:52 AM
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Society* not men. Life is not meant to be walked alone, especially financially for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:45 AM
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I’m fast af boi
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:39 AM
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RP doesn’t have to be toxic. You can use the info for good or bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:38 AM
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Someone has a crush on me ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:17 PM
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Nah you need to articulate your points better. You’re just rambling nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:59 PM
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It’s the natural reaction, I’m not saying it’s right. And the men who are ruthless have way more “incentive” in becoming the way they did as opposed to women who are mostly superficial, shallow, and think because a lot of men are sexually interested in them they can replace anyone who doesn’t measure up to the next man. I literally see it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:07 PM
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“Become a 5% man, it’s that simple”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:57 PM
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Nah women are pretty ruthless to men in dating. Expecting these men not to get fed up is like telling a kid to just endure the bullying instead of doing something about it that’ll end the bullying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:54 PM
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You said I’m desperate to make a point, where have I been wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:52 PM
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Sheesh where do you live 😂 And you’re right, it is weak because it’s the path of least resistance. It’s called red pill rage. I think men who know the reality of most women and use that information to protect themselves are good example of redpill men, not the ones that use it to rack up bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:09 PM
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Well said, good points.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:57 PM
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We’re talking about modern dating, not events that took place before most of us were alive. Glad we got that cleared up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:38 AM
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Triggered?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:29 AM
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Do you want the men who partake in degeneracy to be your husband? And an eye for an eye turns the whole world blind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:20 PM
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Yeah, this take is getting 0 time from me. Go read the thread thoroughly and stop thinking everything is an attack on women. It’s a cycle as I’ve said where the root cause is women’s treatment of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:12 PM
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All statistics are pointing towards there being way more negatives than positives, especially since women have the ability to be extra selective. Are you a man or woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:10 PM
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Degeneracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 07:27 PM
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And how does that work out for average men? Can it get them laid? Sure, but this isn’t what we’re talking about. The goal for most people is a long term committed relationship with someone whose values align with theirs. You still haven’t told me how I moved the goal post btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 07:27 PM
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She’s just being disingenuous. She’d never go to a misandrist post and defend men how she is here for women. Both sides are fucked, my point is it starts somewhere. “Evil” red pill men don’t spawn out of nowhere. But entitled, egotistical women with too much free time to toy with men certainly exist more with a lot less influencing them to become that way. Not even struggles from the opposite sex lead them to become that way in many cases. I think it’s just a societal thing where we have women b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 07:18 PM
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Elaborate. Both sexes are at fault here, this isn’t a rag on women. But they are still the root cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 07:01 PM
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Elaborate where and how I moved the goalpost
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 07:00 PM
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We’re all victims, it’s a cycle. I’m simply saying it starts with how women treat men as disposable trash, then those men go on to treat women as disposable trash, rinse and repeat. It starts with women because they’re the ones with the power in dating. This isn’t to say they need to be stuck with the first good man they date, but you and I both know that many women play games that can mess with a man’s emotions, especially those who aren’t aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 07:00 PM
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Yeah you’re just like me in terms of mentality and having the ability to be degenerate, but choosing not to. This way will be better for us long term, and thank you. Good luck to you as well 🤝
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:57 PM
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The accountability for men comes after their frustrating bouts with women. Once they understand women better, they use that information and experience to protect themselves in the future. Unfortunately a lot of men take the route of doing onto women as was done to them which continues the cycle. The fuck are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:54 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:52 PM
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Big man is triggered 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:38 PM
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Getting ass isn’t hard buddy, maintaining or getting into a LTR with a quality person is. And college/school women don’t have super high expectations yet, that’s not a flex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:22 PM
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I’m doing fine, doesn’t mean I can’t acknowledge reality. You’re triggered and can’t even refute the points because they’re true lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:20 PM
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If that’s your interpretation so be it, but do you actually have a point of contention? Because it sounds like you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:33 PM
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I do that, I have no problems socially. But I can still acknowledge the issues for men leading to them become unlikeable to women in the sense of playing or using them. I’m 6’2, handsome, young, and have a lot going for myself. But I can think back to when I wasn’t as successful, skinny, less style, with less social skills, and see that how I was treated is how some men still have it, or even worse. If I didn’t have the genetics I do, I can’t say I would’ve developed the confidence to even consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:31 PM
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Both have shitty people, but ignore the point of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:21 PM
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The “wisest” are a minority. And it doesn’t have to be a bunch of women. One to two heartbreaks is enough for most men, then the confirmation bias about their experience from other men only further pushes them in the rp direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:20 PM
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Respectfully, it’s different now. The speed and efficiency in which other men who are your competition can reach women is 100x faster than it was in the 90s and 2000s. You basically had less competition to worry about, and weren’t being compared to 1000 other men pursuing her on social media, her phone, etc. This is not to say men can’t get with a woman, but in today’s day and age it’s often short lived as something shiner can approach her any minute. It’s why men think women who don’t use socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:17 PM
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You can obtain those men for sex, which is not impressive at all. You should know by now that below average women can amass more sexual attention that above average men. It doesn’t mean the people giving her that attention actually want to date her seriously. But if you’re cool with getting passed around by “more successful, better looking men” keep on going!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:12 PM
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So sad it has to be this way, but your concerns are beyond valid. You’re an example of a guy who simply uses the RP advice for discernment and not to take advantage of women if I’m interpreting correctly. Hopefully she’s the one man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:10 PM
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It’s not all about sex. I know so many guys who’ve tried to seriously date women who they have already slept with, but have been simply strung along because she thinks the amount of attention she receives will eventually produce an option better than her current ones. Then these men who wanted relationships become jaded. Getting sex isn’t that hard, it’s the relationship aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:06 PM
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🎯
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:03 PM
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They shouldn’t be, but are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:02 PM
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A lot of women need therapy then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:02 PM
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Every blue pill man I know has a lack of experience, and hadn’t truly been “done wrong” by a woman romantically. Because of that, they can maintain that angelic image society perpetuates about them. You have to understand many people aren’t wise enough to learn from the mistakes of other men. They have to experience it to acknowledge that maybe the red pill actually does have some truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:00 PM
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Thank you 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:56 PM
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You are either the exact type of man I mentioned in the post who naturally had an abundance of options therefore never had to become RP minded, or haven’t been in the dating market for many years/ are old.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:54 PM
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He’s a good example of a man who uses the RP for the “right” reasons. The toxic side of the RP is the one that’s mainly talked about by women, but there are a lot of that use the advice just to better protect ourselves. I like to call us men like that “Red Pill Aware”. Still seeking genuine companionship, but we detect bullshit fast and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:49 PM
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When you’re unrealistic about what you can obtain, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:46 PM
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Did you not read the post? It’s a cycle, perpetuated by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:43 PM
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A man may be good enough to date for the moment until someone else “better” starts pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:42 PM
0

Bingo. Sad that it’s become this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:40 PM
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My intention in discussing these issues isn't to promote a market-driven approach to dating, but rather to understand and address the factors that can lead to the development of certain attitudes or ideologies, such as the "Red Pill" mindset. Ultimately, healthy and respectful connections with others is the goal, but we cannot ignorantly ignore reality. Maybe if you're a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 07:56 AM
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You’re sick in the head
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:32 AM
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You have to look outside your bubble. Average women that put themselves out there have more attention than they know what to do with. I’ve seen it many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:04 AM
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You sound miserable to be around, please stay single for their sake. Btw, when your social circle gets in relationships of their own or even forms families, they will have less time for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:06 AM
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You just made up an argument that no group has ever advocated for. MGTOW has nothing to do with using artificial wombs to have kids, wtf 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:03 AM
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And social media broadening what they see
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:58 AM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:28 AM
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W
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:26 AM
1

Shiver me Timbers 😱
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 05:08 PM
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I think the 6, 6, 6 is terrible. It’s the devil’s number for a reason. 😆 Greed, vanity, lust. 👎 I would focus less on developing yourself for your ability to attract hot, boring women and more for your personal growth/development. You're not wrong, but I'm simply adapting to the modern dating market. Even wholesome women find these traits attractive, so it doesn't hurt. Falling into the 6,6,6 just opens doors for me. But yes, it is mainly for me, the dating benefits will be the cherry on top. ​ …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:24 PM
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Didn't know what you were nor do I care. I can tell you're depressed though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:46 PM
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I’m sorry you hate your life so much, hope it gets better ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 02:36 AM
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Yes, this is what I’m saying. But despite not being above average in looks, these are technically “good women” and men shouldn’t be complaining about a shortage of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 02:15 AM
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Sadly, same.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 02:15 AM
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And you’re the authority on that based on a Reddit post 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 02:14 AM
1

Yessir, waiting to get lucky 😂 the prettiest girls I’ve dated all had issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 08:08 PM
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I agree, this post is simply calling out what I see. While also reflecting on the women I didn’t give a chance because their looks didn’t compensate for them being “boring”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 07:59 PM
1

Read the post again man, I said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 07:57 PM
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There are girls like that everywhere. The attractive ones aren’t available, which leaves the less attractive ones with good traits on the market. Therefore if a man wants an attractive girl she often comes with bad traits because attractive women with bad traits are always (more likely to be) single.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 07:56 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 07:54 PM
1

If you read the post you would’ve seen me say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 07:53 PM
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You’re just being disingenuous. Parties are more fun than staying home and relaxing or going to the library GENERALLY. Most people would prefer the parties, hence making it more fun GENERALLY speaking. I would prefer doing something “boring” myself, but just because I would doesn’t mean I have the authority to say it would be more of a good time for most people. That’s the point. People on this sub hate generalities when it’s quite literally how the world operates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:59 PM
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Someone took this personal. Boring chicks are preferred universally, they just aren’t as attractive and that’s a man’s main appeal to a woman. It’s simply a phenomenon I noticed in why men chase red flag women over green flag ones. I want a boring chick, but she can’t be mid, sorry 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:35 PM
1

That’s relatively available in today’s dating market. You just have to pull.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:29 PM
1

Makes perfect sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:27 PM
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If they’re both hot, I’m going with the religious one. If they’re both average, I’m going for the party girl, but only to have fun with. The reason it would be different based on attraction level is because if you’re “boring” you need to compensate somehow (with looks) The party twin would be easier to get with, probably be better at sex, but the nun would be a better match/prospect for a LTR. She can always get better at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:25 PM
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This is a CMV sir, of course it’ll contain opinions. Attractive women w green flags are often in relationships already, that’s my point. If the single ones were so attractive, there wouldn’t be an entire discourse around the fact that men only going for hoes. Are there men out there who would be fine with the average green flag chick? Obviously, but they clearly don’t have the balls to do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:22 PM
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She’s gotta be hot to compensate. There aren’t that many hot, single, boring chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:18 PM
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I guess it’s the guys fault 🤣, the mean girls are just so attractive, enough guys will still want them. This will make them popular and powerful. And they don’t have an incentive to reform their behavior. 🥺 Exactly. Pretty women who don't have the ego were usually raised well or somehow just have humble personalities. Definitely related to their environment. ​ This is the social dynamic that reinforces what you’re talking about I think. If guys stopped paying attention to and stopped dating thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:27 AM
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Interesting take, care to elaborate? I think I can see where you're coming from with this angle, because I've definitely felt that. But at the same time I chalked it up to me pedestalizing someone I didn't know, just small bits about their habits that scream green flag. When I felt that feeling though, the girl was like a 9 or 10 and had green flags. Had she not been that hot, I don't think I would’ve thought too deeply about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:21 AM
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Wow, this is amazing. Sorry it didn't work out, but 14 years and 20 years knowing each other is amazing compared to most people today. I would like to find someone similar to yourself in my age range, but hopefully have it stand the test of time. I fortunately have the looks and height, so am just working on the career side of things so I can be complete when we meet. It would be nice and reassuring to start dating her before that success comes, but I understand attractive women have options and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:14 AM
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It's attractive an attractive green flag woman or I'd rather be alone personally. So I certainly have my work cut out for me. I'm just observant of what's going on in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:39 AM
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Lol, we have very different views of the world my friend. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:37 AM
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Every now and then is not as frequent as red flag women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:18 AM
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I have no doubt there are beautiful women at your church, but in today's society which is running in the opposite direction of God, I'm simply saying more attractive women will be seen outside at these places versus the library or church. It's really an issue of volume.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:16 AM
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Plus it could have to do with something that you particularly find physically attractive. Cute face (doesn't have to be a model), not too much body fat, and a nice shaped ass does it for me. It's the entire package, so a cute face with a flat butt, or too much ass docks points for me. These preferences are not exclusive to me as many men would agree with my desires. This creates an excess of attention for these girls, which in turn helps them develop red flags if they were not raised with certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:12 AM
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I was about the ask how the hell are you even single until I read the end lol. And I didn't even notice your username, see, I know what I'm talking about sometimes. How long were you together? The only thing I'd say that would hurt you is your age. So if relationships are your thing and hookups aren't, just watch out for people who will try to sell you an image to sleep with you knowing they wouldn't seriously date a 40 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:02 AM
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I'm saying men don't want to. Should they? Maybe, the attractive green flag women are few and far between on a population scale. They don't pick green flag unattractive women though. They'd rather an attractive red flag woman, or even an average red flag woman because at the very least she isn't completely boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:57 AM
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Nah, I've hooked up with a fair amount of chicks. The best looking ones are not fit for genuine relationships. I'm talking 8 to 10s on a relatively objective scale. It seems like you think I'm saying plain or average looking women are ugly which is not true. They can be cute. Maybe my experience simply skew my expectations in who I want as a partner, the same way it does with women. Or maybe social media and the scope of seeing attractive people everywhere online skews it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:55 AM
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I don't think I'm a red flag in the context of relationships or friendships. I'm actually a hopeless romantic and very well liked. I just call things how I see them, nothing more, nothing less.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:50 AM
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Can you elaborate a bit? Kinda confused on your main point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:46 AM
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Of course. These were just examples of where you may run into women with red flags versus green.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:45 AM
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None of the women I've dated were the same, they just exhibited red flags. Some different, some the same. I've also dated women with green flags, but I notice I was not as sexually attracted to them. Nothing to do with their personalities, just their physical appearance. If I could take the body of the hottest red flag chick, and gave her the mind of any "boring" green flag chick I've dated, I'd get on one knee right now. I prefer boring women for their demeanor in a relationship, but the primat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:43 AM
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Very valid points. Even if it's an illusion and these women rate nearly the same, it is still working in terms of garnering attention from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:38 AM
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Most men prioritize looks beyond anything else, yes. It's biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:31 AM
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Haven’t you ever noticed when people are like “man I really can pick them” on their fifth sociopathic conman boyfriend? Never.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:31 AM
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You can keep arguing for exceptions, but that brings us nowhere. I think they're insufferable too, but I also think on average they're more attractive than women at libraries, excluding university libraries. I'd take a hot chick that frequents the library over a hot chick at the bars any day. But I would not take an average, boring, library chick over the hot red flag party girl. The boring girl would have to compensate with her looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:28 AM
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Green flag women aren't giving up the box casually lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:26 AM
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Learn what generalities and exceptions are my friend. No one is saying all men fall into any given category literally. That's impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:25 AM
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I agree 100% it's just that the proportion of hot women who also have red flags is at an all time high in my opinion. Sorry if I was not more clear about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:23 AM
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Boring and hot trumps all. I'm just saying that most boring women are not hot. You would be the unicorn I mentioned that are not on the market long.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:22 AM
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Boring and hot trumps all. I'm just saying that most boring women are not hot. You would be the unicorn I mentioned that are not on the market long.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:22 AM
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I always say I want a boring woman until I'm presented with the opportunity to date one, and their looks can't compensate for them not being outgoing/fun/flirty. It's complicated but there are tiers for me. Attractive and Boring w/ Green Flags Hot with Red Flags Okay looking w/ Red Flags since they can gain points for being fun or freaky sexually Okay looking and Boring w/ Green Flags The only way the 4th option gets attention from me is if I meet her organically, learn about her as an individua…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:18 AM
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I think the problem is that bar and club environments are some of the only places where male and female interest can overlap. Outside of academia, or even within it, I always see more women than men at places like the library. I don't think it's the red flags that attract us, but the hotness. We'd take a hot "boring" woman over a hot red flag woman any day. It just so happens that most of hottest women have red flags whereas the average looking ones don't. I think it stems from the types of atte…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:11 AM
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Whose pants are you more likely to get into? Between red and green flag women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:02 AM
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I literally said universities are the exception bruv. Now these are local libraries and results are definitely different at university libraries, but it's something I found interesting nonetheless because the age demographic is similar, or slightly older. Party girls are physically more attractive, or at least appear to be due them leaving little to the imagination for men based on how they dress out. Women I see in green flag zones couldn't be sexualized if you tried. This can lead to bias, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:59 AM
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Library or church probably, but my point is that you might not like what you see. I wouldn't mind a boring woman if I was hard set on settling right now. But the boring women I see generally aren't that attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:16 AM
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Of course, the world runs on generalities. Tens of Millions of people in any category still make up the minority of our population.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:14 AM
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When I see her being super close with non-relative guys, I know not to take her seriously. Not really an ick I guess because I'd still smash, but yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:35 AM
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Not hard to sleep with low value women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:29 AM
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Yikes, good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 04:50 PM
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He’s a guy who didn’t have many options, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 04:46 PM
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Holy cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 10:17 AM
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Relationships that ended up where?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 09:59 AM
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A lot of times, pretending to be a sex-positive lib will get women to just tell you their count. This works flawlessly. 100% effective. They always tell on themselves, and the relationship prospect sinks with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 09:57 AM
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Men aren't going to ruin the opportunity for sex by being noble and upstanding about his thoughts. He'd rather just smash, and let the situation end when it ends. Men don't have countless options, so they aren't going to push away who they do get just because they wouldn't choose to marry or seriously date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 09:56 AM
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No one (generally) wants to parent with a high n count woman lol. The preference will always be lower according to his standards. Some men 10 might be high, others 30 might. One of the most distressing positions I've seen men in was pregnancy scares. Not because they possibly got someone pregnant, but because she's a hoe. I can personally attest to that to, they're just for fun. I won't sleep with anyone who I couldn't see being the mother of my child now though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 09:52 AM
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Is this a preference for just sleeping with them or dating/relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 09:43 AM
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Because they're A-Listers and their pool is already small enough. Famous men have countless sexual options, not marriage options. Yes, they can find a regular woman and make her his queen, but there are too many risk in doing that. That's why they smash regular folk, and marry other celebrities regardless of past. They shouldn't even be used as an example as their lives are too different to compare to the general population. Also Jada never had a promiscuous reputation prior to dating Will, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 09:30 AM
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Ofc you don’t. Because hedonism reigns supreme,
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:27 AM
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Didn’t answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:10 AM
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Societally is what I’m asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 01:00 PM
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What happens when a large portion of the population ends up not being in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 09:39 AM
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Come on bro, this is why dating is the shit fest it is. Thinking like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:58 AM
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Exactly, it’s c*pe
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:45 AM
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This ain’t a me issue anymore but I understand why men suck cause I used to be confused too. I don’t think instructing someone you’re in a relationship is warranted for slut shaming. If it’s a rando and you’re conscious for that reason then I guess. But most guys who are just hooking up are gonna prioritize themselves unlike a boyfriend or husband who’d hopefully want to make you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 08:48 PM
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Well said. That being said, a lot of people will never get it when it comes to execution.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 06:22 PM
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Had a back and forth on this the other day. They’re going to virtue signal but this is the truth. They settle because he’s just good enough, but if given the option they would’ve went with someone that looks nothing like him. Stay in the gym fellas, eat right, maximize your genetic potential because it’s a scary though not being desired, but tolerated by someone you’re going to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 06:19 PM
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You would never know what I think in real life, same with countless other people. We blend in offline. That’s not to say we won’t stand on our beliefs, but there’s a time and a place for that. I’m not walking around with a sign that says “I think a woman’s body count matters”. You’d never get that from me unless something prompted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 06:03 PM
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Women’s instructions also suck, there’s that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 05:52 PM
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When you're bored and have nothing to do, probably due to a lack of resources: accidental pregnancies happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 01:20 PM
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I take no offense, nothing I'm saying applies to me and I'd do what you're saying no hesitation. Then again I'd never be in that situation, but I'm adding insight as to why most men don't. And I don't know what generation you're apart of, but expecting a woman to be reasonable under the age of 30 is like a woman trying to find a 6 figure man. Sure they exist, but they're rare. It's a big part of why dating sucks, the delusion is rampant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 01:00 PM
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Not to mention it's 100x easier as a woman to get laid. So calling it equal footing with men is even a stretch in that sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:57 PM
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Both genders*
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:53 PM
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Women just aren’t as understanding, but you’re right. In an ideal world men would be able to speak their minds more freely without fear of losing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:30 PM
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Women react emotionally instead of logically more often than not when it comes to relationships. It’s not even worth opening Pandora’s box to see how she would react to you implying she’s forcing herself on you. Something as little as that could spell the beginning of the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 06:20 PM
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Unnecessary drama
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:02 PM
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A man’s ability to earn is a factor in his attractiveness. If he’s going through a down period and she leaves him, she lost attraction. Raw physical attraction can certainly overcome things like infidelity or lying for a period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:12 PM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:10 PM
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It's not as high as it was for Chad, that's all I'm saying. Do you ever rage look at reddit/weddings? what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:03 AM
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They aren't ugly, they just don't compare to others they've been with. Comparison is the thief of joy but it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:02 AM
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That's a component, but it has way more to do with a woman's current SMV when she gets with you. Decent looking women have every opportunity in the world to find a man when they're in their early to mid twenties. When they're in their thirties they are practically throwing hail marys. No man should want to be on the other end of that, but yes, it's inevitable. This is because more women are promiscuous now, and a lot get strung along by guys they desire, or don't stop casually dating until they …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:40 AM
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You psycho analyze (over analyze before you bring out the Webster dictionary) things and that’s why your flair is what it is. How in the world would you know the level of attraction a woman feels towards her fiancé? They would get 0 benefit from telling you her exes were more attractive. Women are great virtue signalers and will say or act however portrays them in the best light. I’d be damned if my bride to be didn’t lie and say I was the best she’s ever had. Because the alternative is literall…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:04 AM
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You can be an attractive BB, Logan Paul for example. And you’re either being disingenuous or just don’t understand what AFBB really means. You say “she is not getting married to him” as if she has a choice. They’d love nothing more than to have the alpha commit to them, but the MEN choose not to commit or string them along by selling a dream. A BB not being attractive can be for a multitude of reasons that she could get over. Maybe they’re not assertive, have a regular physique, or just in gener…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:41 PM
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Why are you assuming the BB is a complete slob who no one would settle for? They are anywhere from 5 WHICH IS AVERAGE to 7 purely on a looks scale. You’re acting like the BB people reference are below average in looks exclusively.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:27 PM
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They are just attractive enough given their biological clock is ticking. But not as attractive as men in her past. Only reason they’d marry someone they find completely unattractive is because he’s filthy rich. I mean, imagine having 8-10s men all your 20s to having to settle for a 6. The 6 is above average, and attractive, he just doesn’t live up to her norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:19 PM
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Why would it paint a target? I’m most these things besides the high income that will come after I graduate and get older. I could not care less if people on this sub know. It’s simply interesting to debate and see other perspectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 08:58 PM
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You should’ve said young women who regularly date older men. No one cares who a 25 and up woman dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 08:05 PM
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Creates the illusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 09:40 AM
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This is true, but only before a man’s first or second heart break. After that he’s tactical.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:18 AM
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You gotta get rich. Throw some social status in there too. Super easy to get tiktok famous if you can laugh at yourself and post consistent quality. I have like 9 videos and 20k plus followers
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:13 AM
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I’m sure the general population knows this. They choose to have kids regardless because they’re not completely hedonistic and see the bigger picture in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:04 AM
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As someone who has met up with a girl, who only showed her face. Fuck no. She was a friend of a girl my friend was dating and thought I was cute but I had never seen her. They sent him pics to show me and we met. She was sweet but chubbier than her pics. Def used old photos. Guys who do the same are lame.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 01:53 AM
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So thin women just don’t deserve to be desired? Got it 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 01:47 AM
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I’m not as fixated on the women being in their early twenties as I am pointing out they want to date women significantly younger than them. Relative to whatever their age is, the gap is still huge more often than not. And like it was mentioned earlier, just because these guys don’t get caught and put on the news doesn’t mean they aren’t fucking young fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 06:05 PM
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We both know that’s a lie
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:41 AM
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The same way you’re saying that user isn’t a woman is the same way I’m saying you’re not 21. Stop the 🧢. Even if you are, I thought high value men don’t want 21 year olds? You damn sure aren’t finding someone in your age range who is rich or willing to deal with your parasitic energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:40 AM
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She’s at the wall and is clinging onto hope, let her be
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:34 AM
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<image> You legit frequent a sub called r/MarryRich and seem bitter af that these young women found out the game when you didn’t. You must be close to the wall and are just hating at this point. Your defensiveness combined with the delusion is only making that scenario seem more plausible.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:30 AM
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So because you don’t know them, they’re not famous or high value, got it. If 24 is old, sure I’m old.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:18 AM
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You’re proving my point genius. Men want young women, Kanye is 45. And the woman I’m talking about is Juliana Nalu who was 22 or 23 when she dated Kanye. Also here’s your list: https://www.sheknows.com/entertainment/slideshow/2504530/celebrity-men-dating-younger-women/8/ Let me see your excuses. Names like Eddie Murphy, Jim Carrey, P Diddy, and Johnny Depp famous enough for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:15 AM
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Don’t care as much as you do. But off the top of my head Kanye was just dating some Brazilian model who was like 23
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:08 AM
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It’s convenient to cheat and have their day 1 woman. Or just stay loyal in the most genuine relationship they could have post success. As a man, a woman who has your back before success is worth 1000 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:07 AM
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Didn’t you just say most of them had been together before the wall? And the point about them wanting younger women isn’t only for LTR. If they’re cheating then they get the best of both worlds. A mother more than likely and sex with younger women. Not saying it’s right though. If they had not been with those women they’d easily be dating young more often than not. I’m sure someone can compile a list just as long proving the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:03 AM
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What
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:42 PM
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And the man handles the masculine duties, like his money being her money too, and her money only being hers. Most women aren’t doing all of those things, yet you’re making it seem like the norm. What I said happens way more than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:23 PM
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Average men are not entertaining a boat load of people at once. Also what ego could an average man truly have?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:21 PM
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Careful reading would’ve saved you a few minutes typing that. I never said women don’t treat me like human, I said men (IN GENERAL) are missing community, meaningful relationships, and want to be treated like human. If anyone is humble bragging it’s you. No one asked about your dick size and eye color, that’s excessive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 06:20 AM
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Most men just want a solid woman, it’s not that much of an ask. They’ve had to adapt to the market though, which is probably why you see what you see. If the majority of women walked around with an ounce of humility or modesty, I highly doubt you’d see the things you do. If men act like that it’s in a reaction to the environment/dating market that women control.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:16 AM
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Yeah I have standards. Being attractive isn’t enough anymore. Don’t get me wrong though, I’m not gonna go for someone I’m not attracted to. But in big cities the chicks are too progressive for me, have a huge ego, or entertain too many guys at once. I’m not fighting a battle Royale for you, i’d rather walk and let whoever wants me come. Then again I burn bridges before I give much of an opportunity for that but yeah, if I’ve had sex with you and find out you’re still entertaining other people sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:06 AM
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NYC is probably easier than it was back then, I live here and it’s pretty degenerate. I luckily got that depressing feeling early on an stopped trying to have meaningless sex. Nothing compared to being with a woman who I genuinely wanted beyond the physical. Looks are definitely an important factor, but being a bearable partner takes precedence over everything for me now. These modern women have fried my brain. Only 24 so I still have hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:06 AM
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In relationships or very young. Rare outliers. Once most women pass their early 20s it’s over. I can’t wait to see updated stats on n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:30 AM
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As a tall, lean, and handsome man, the options for relationships are still in the dumpster unless you lower your standards to rock bottom. Yeah you can have sex with less difficulties, but not everyone just wants that man. OP makes it sound like sex is the only thing men are missing when it’s meaningful relationships, community, and being treated like a human. Sex gets old fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:25 AM
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You’re making blanket statements and ignoring all of the negative repercussions. What good is having a descendant when you’re not even able to see them on your terms? And child support ruins a lot of men as well. What are you even trying to prove?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:16 PM
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I don’t think you’re being genuine. Making stupid points in bad faith the win a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:00 PM
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I wouldn't treat her any way if I wasn't a fan of her past. I'd simply move on from her personally. ​ There are no guarantees in life, relationships, or investments and that's okay. Well said, but I'd be a damn fool not to mitigate the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 09:09 PM
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Because universally, I think 95% of men would think that getting a train ran on you is some hoe shit. Hence, I used it as an example, but the post is meant for you to cater the definition of what a hoe is to you, and how you'd respond. If a guys definition of a slut is her being with 1 or 2 people, that's him even if he's delusional. I already called someone out for that on this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 09:06 PM
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I wish I could pin this for all the women denying that honesty matters and dancing around the question. How did you find out if you don't mind me asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 09:04 PM
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Gambling is risky. Can't believe I'm explaining this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:53 PM
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This is logical thinking. Combination of being realistic and having standards for yourself on a major decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:52 PM
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Why'd you dump them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:43 PM
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Interesting perspective. At the very least I would agree with you, but I'd have to be pretty down bad and feel like I'm running out of time to find someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:39 PM
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Now analogies don't exist. You do realize you are investing a lot of money, energy, and time into a relationship right? That's far more important than gambling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:38 PM
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In my case she was a 10/10 and I didn't think I could get another one. Of course there were grenades or regular girls I could have, but they weren't nearly as hot as her. That's what I mean by scarcity in my situation. I was never a man slut though until recently which I regret, had too high of a criteria for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:37 PM
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Because a woman is a long term investment. In both time and money. Why would I waste either?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:35 PM
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So you would omit that fact without a guilty conscience? Not disagreeing, just wondering. Ik a lot of unsuspecting young men who have paid for it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:17 PM
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Relatable. We had a scarcity mindset back then, live and learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:11 PM
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Is someone who is gambling “insecure” for constantly checking the odds on a bet he’s going to place for 10k? Or is he weighing the risk/probabilities and deciding if he should move forward logically? You’re making it deeper than it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:10 PM
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Oh I know. They always tell on themselves eventually, but like you said, gotta be care free.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:08 PM
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Nah, she’s just ready to settle after having her fun, things of that nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:05 PM
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Because it shows a pattern. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. If a woman is accustomed to frivolously having sex, why would I take on the load of trying to satiate her, and risk getting cheated on? Promiscuous women are the biggest cheaters there are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:04 PM
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Why would the reformed hoe have lost any of her skills? Tf 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:58 PM
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So ignorance is bliss basically? You’re stronger than me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:56 PM
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That’s the extreme brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:54 PM
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If you don’t find her super young you’re gonna die alone then bro. Or at least be looking for a long time. Male equivalent of 6 figure 6 feet 6 inches
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:53 PM
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Women don’t care about body count or sexual history as much as men do so probably. It’s why they’re the ones who mainly have a point of contention with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:50 PM
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The lower partners people have the more likely it is to succeed, or at least have satisfaction within it. It’s easy to see why, you’re being compared to less people in every metric versus more.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:48 PM
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I think there’s a correlation between the success of relationships between men who care and men who don’t. I have no proof though, just what I see and gathered from my circle. In my opinion men who don’t care aren’t super serious about the girl to begin with. Again, there could be no correlation but you not being with “every guy you’ve ever dated” supports that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:42 PM
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What draws you to that conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:39 PM
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I don’t know why some of you ladies think I implied the guy would want every detail. Simply past relationship, body count, and if you cheated more than likely is the extent of what men want to know. No man who isn’t a cuck wants to imagine the positions you’ve been in with other men in detail lol. And I said most boxes not all. All isn’t possible realistically speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:38 PM
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That’s wild. As a guy I’m still in awe at what some of these men say to y’all. But yeah, this post is meant to be a scenario where the chemistry and trust was already built.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:35 PM
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Whether or not she cheated is another piece of information they’d want to know as well, and what do you mean those can be different things?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:33 PM
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Well it’s your definition. So if being a hoe constitutes being a cheater for you, then you’d probably steer clear. I see what you mean though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:30 PM
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W.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:28 PM
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Body count, number of relationships mainly. If you choose to go into more detail that’s on you, but most men who care want to know those factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:28 PM
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For sure, this hypothetical is supposed to be done in a respectful manner. I do think however, women who lie do so because finding someone they’re attracted to is already difficult enough. Also the truth probably won’t come to light for years if at all. So while the relationship would be built on a foundation of lies, she still got who she wanted. I’ve seen post on r/dating_advice about men finding out after long time that their woman lied about her past, and being heartbroken. I generally see t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:25 PM
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😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:20 PM
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Great point. A lot of dudes are fucked, not in the good way
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:20 PM
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Why does it automatically mean insecurity? There are a plethora of reasons one could have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:18 PM
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I don’t think men are out here expecting women to have never had sex, let’s be real. You’re just being smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:17 PM
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This is fair, I respect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:16 PM
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That example was kind of extreme, my intention was for the guys to use their own definition of a hoe. It could even be borderline hoe behavior like having x amount of bodies. Does your answer stay the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:13 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:07 PM
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Perfectly said
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 12:16 AM
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I don’t think it was meant to be taken literal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 11:06 PM
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I don’t see how life goes downhill after 60 if you manage to create a family. Seeing your loved ones grow and figure out their lives must be a joyous thing. If you’re referring to being alone in your 60s then you have an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:57 PM
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Completely ignored everything I wrote, love it. Read the first paragraph. And even the minority of the male population still constitutes “a lot” of men. Your anecdotal example proves nothing because you can’t actually know what kinds of conversations men are having with them. Why would women explicitly tell you if it had happened anyways? Plus your sample size is small given the amount of women who’ve definitely been asked Edit: misunderstood something but fixed
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:17 AM
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Nah, I know a lot of guys who you would’ve never expected, who’ve paid for sex. In long term relationships now too, I doubt they told their partners. They’re going strong so there’s no correlation between being sexist and paying for it contrary to your implication. I asked that because it’s more common than she probably imagines, especially when men travel. All age ranges too, heard of mutuals who are in college who’ve paid for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:55 AM
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Why did you tell ~40 guys you were a virgin? And how the vagina looks and feels isn’t an indicator of a low body count even though most people probably think that’s the case. You just have a pretty vagina probably, I still wouldn’t believe you more than likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 11:46 PM
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It’s crazy how many men are resorting to paying for it. This isn’t a knock on you, I’m just saying I’m shocked. There are people in my circle who I’d never have guessed have paid for sex before. Either illegally in the states or on vacation. Crazy times we live in, wish there were genuine stats on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 11:30 PM
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For men who genuinely want a family and have dealt with “hoes” or just dealt with a lot of female bs in general, a lot of investigation. But men are giving up on marriage and family so there’s probably a large population of them who won’t investigate too deeply. Everyone I know who desires a LTR cares. The ones that don’t are typically not attractive to women in the first place. Just what I see though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 11:24 PM
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This isn’t a 1 on 1 conversation, it’s an open forum. And the information won’t benefit you in any way if that’s the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 11:18 PM
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Deeper than that, this is 101. But if you know you know 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 11:15 PM
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I and many men won’t ask if the intention is casual sex, because it doesn’t matter. A lot of men won’t ask because they don’t have a plethora of options and can’t risk losing her. If it comes down to a relationship, a lot of men will inquire about her past. For those who don’t want to take that risk and open up Pandora’s box, there are a ton of subtle ways to gauge whether or not she’s been a hoe. Although if her count isn’t high she wouldn’t even be offended so it’s not a risk unless you don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 11:14 PM
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I can’t spill the beans lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 11:00 PM
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No doubt, best of luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 10:48 PM
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Well he can be a great liar or omit what I stated. Again, the same way a woman can about her body count or relationship past.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 10:45 PM
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I appreciate seeing things from your side too. It’s certainly one of the worst times to be a modest woman when it comes to sexual discipline because of how prominent the other side is. I saw in a street interview a man explaining the issue with a really good analogy imo. It was something along the lines of good men not being able to discern the difference between “hoes” and “good women” (wife material). He said if you see 10 lions walking up to you, you’re not going to sit around and figure out …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 10:41 PM
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😂😂😂 I misread. The point still stands that men care even if they don’t ask. They can just want to smash. I probably wasn’t even far off given her flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 10:27 PM
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A lot of people are still screwed on both sides. But I don’t think I know a man who isn’t a wuss that doesn’t care about a woman’s past. These are in environments where they felt safe to speak too as no women were present and I think the highest I heard they’d “wife up” was 15. But they’d never know, all a woman has to do is make a number up and act somewhat modest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 10:25 PM
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He can be all these things and have paid for sex or be an Andrew Tate fan and you’d never know just like men would never know your real body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 10:21 PM
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It’s varies from man to man, and probably a lot to do with the woman’s age. I know guys who have limits of 15, 10, 5, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 10:18 PM
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It’s not your fault. So many women are deceiving. Couple that in with social media post going viral about how women lie about their counts only inflates a man’s doubt. If a girl told me 3 or lower I probably wouldn’t believe her either, but there are other factors I think that can confirm or deny what she says.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 10:16 PM
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Good luck 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:56 PM
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Won’t last lol. As someone with a big network of male friends and have engaged in a lot of locker room talk, the guys who don’t care are probably the worst partners. There are also men who care but won’t mention it, so don’t assume that means they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:55 PM
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This is a good thing. While I agree some people take it to the extreme, if you find a genuinely good man you are in a great position if your goal is a LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:53 PM
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You’re not with them anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:50 PM
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I don’t think it’s affected women at all. They will lie to no end about their past anyways, so they will do as they please until they find someone they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:49 PM
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Now most those girls will be looking for a guy of his caliber to wife them until they can’t get him and have to “settle” lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:13 PM
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Men cannot have sex without women granting access to it, so not sure why you're saying men are using women for sex when they give it up. Maybe women need to stop opening their legs without commitment? Can't say you're "being used" then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:56 AM
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It is how attraction works though. Go back to any pre-social media era. Average people got with average people at a higher rate, therefore must've found each other attractive to some degree. Of course they would see hyper attractive people on TV or in person every now and then, but they had no real chance and the frequency was low. Now however, these hyper attractive men are literally a swipe or dm away. I can't tell you how many Chads/Tyrones I know who are volume shooters. I'm talking big man …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:32 AM
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Men are telling women to lower their standards/come back to reality, not to settle. And what you're personally attracted to is heavily influenced by the options you think you have and social media. Yes, you can smash a chad, so can average and even below average women. You seem to be very self aware of this in your flair. What you're indirectly describing is what TRP calls an alpha widow. You got to experience Chad and that is now the new baseline, everything else is "settling". Had you not deal…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:23 AM
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I already told you what happens if we disagree in another thread. It's literally the current dating market. No one person can decide leagues, but many people are objective ratings, or at least within a 1-2 point range. It's why we use words like ugly, average, cute, pretty, and gorgeous. Studies showed babies can identify attractive people, why are grown people struggling? Because delusion. Of course there can be preferences here and there that vary an individual's rating, but if anyone rates a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:13 AM
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Not everyone can be with Chad lol. If these women genuinely found peace with that, I think they'd find regular men more attractive. If they do this at younger ages I don't necessarily see why this would be a beta bux situation but what do you think? As a man, I can want Kendall Jenner all I want, it doesn't mean I was actually ever on her level.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:02 AM
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It's very clear what women are supposed to do. Find out where you objectively rank instead of being delusional, then date men in or slightly above your league. Not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:51 AM
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I think you're having trouble articulating what you're trying to say. You're saying settling is bad for a man like most have a real choice. Wtf is Chad even treated like that average men are expecting of women? My point is that most women think getting with a guy who matches their actual value is settling. For example, a woman who is a 5 (perceives herself as an 8 in her head) thinks she is settling for a man who is a 5, but that's just her realistic match. I'm trying to answer your original que…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:33 AM
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This is so false. They aren't beneath those women, they are eye level in most instances. A woman who is a 6 thinks she's too good for a man who's a 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:24 AM
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Did anything I say contradict your statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:20 AM
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Not really understanding what you're asking. How can she be made to want to lay him, what does this mean? If you're not sexually attracted to anyone that doesn't fit the Chad criteria, that's your fault for being chronically online.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:18 AM
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This is why women need to involve their fathers and brothers when it comes to vetting men. It's actually too easy to expose who's quality and who isn't. But they go with their feelings instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:12 AM
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I don't think it's as much about "lowering their standards" as it is understanding who is a realistic match for you. For example, women who are objectively 5s subconsciously think they deserve the same man as an objective 8. I used the looks rating because more attractive women are typically in LTR with higher status men. Unfortunately, social media has inflated the perception of what these women who are 5s can attract due to the volume of attention she gets (Dating apps, Instagram, Snapchat, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:07 AM
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Neither. If I was forced the 50 yo
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:14 AM
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W
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 04:13 PM
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You’re the equivalent of all these women thinking they’ll find a 6ft+, 6 figure earning, 6 inch penis man. Good luck finding that in 2023 and having her pick you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:00 PM
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The beautiful thing is that a shit ton of men won’t. Might as well level up not only to maximize what you have of this short life for yourself, but to have a better chance in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:13 PM
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Both are unfortunate, you’re just reading it a certain way lmao wtf. I type fast and added the “take their own lives”after I already put “unfortunately” so I can see how you interpreted it like that. But dude just extrapolate a bit, obviously both are unfortunate 😐 And I’m still confused on the “losers fixing them up” portion of your argument. Did I say people shouldn’t travel abroad for a better chance at love? Or did I say it’s unlikely to happen? Let me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:55 PM
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For sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:49 PM
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You're telling me the oldest profession is midwifery like I didn't specifically say "one of" the oldest professions is prostitution. You just sent me a 2013 article, riddled with grammatical errors, whose opening statement was "Statistics about sex trafficking, especially about minors, are notoriously difficult to document.". Please cite a better source. Even if this were true, this has nothing to do with the regulated, controlled, and managed business I had in mind. There are undoubtedly fucked…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:27 PM
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No one is asking for a 0 body count realistically, we just don’t want a slut. There are different thresholds for different men on what that is. I know men who’s limit for wifing a girl up in 20, 15, 10 and 5. If women didn’t think it mattered they would lie about their count so much, deep down they know it does. And the immediate reaction when talking about another woman they don’t like is to either call her a bitch or a slut. There are pretty women with nice personalities that fall below each o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:56 PM
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100% correct. However, how many opportunities will these sexually lackluster men get when she’s probably already used to way better, and more than likely has options outside of him? The answer is not many unless she absolutely adores him by the time they start having sex. On my last post in PPD droves of women said they wouldn’t want to be a man’s “teacher” when I asked how they felt about being his first girlfriend. It’s different than sex but the logic still applies. That’s why it’s important …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:41 PM
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I mean this isn’t about me. But if I weren’t able to get any sex I wouldn’t see it as different than casually hooking up with a girl I don’t really care for. It just skips a bunch of steps. In the past I did not have feelings for everyone I had sex with. So spending $300 on dates to finally smash, versus paying $300 up front to skip the dates and smash is essentially the same thing. Sure with dating, the possibility of retaining the girl is higher but unless it becomes a FWB you’re going to cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:56 PM
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And why is that? Moral code? People finding out? Instead of jerking off to pixels you can have that girl in front of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:37 PM
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Aye man I’m just trying to see what could change the tides even a little bit. If a young man could save up to smash a chick every few months I think he’s better off than being completely sexless like you said. Do you think the situation is just hopeless?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:31 PM
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These incels will stop wasting their money on pixels and go get the real thing instead. A good chunk of them at least. It’s definitely not a great solution but I think it improves the current landscape where there doesn’t seem to be any other one. What would you suggest happen realistically since droves of men are not leaving for a foreign country anytime soon?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:08 PM
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They wouldn’t be asking then. You’re so hurt responding to all my comments 😭 Tell me it what I’m saying hits home without telling me why don’t ya
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:06 PM
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That’s lovey for the night or fwb. But I’d rather have someone who’s not a slut, is hot, and have her get good in bed over time. Omg misogynistic preference for what most men prefer in someone who they’d want their future daughter to look up to and perhaps emulate 😱🤯
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:04 PM
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Men have far less criteria for women, especially when it comes to dealbreakers. The phrase “men are simple” exist for a reason. Most vagina feels the same, and a lot of what feels good, men who have been “sluts” are willing to teach. And a man having a lot of sex is not the same as a woman doing it. It’s as easy as stealing candy from a baby for a woman to have sex whereas a man has to qualify himself for sex. Therefore a man having a lot of sex isn’t frowned upon like it is for woman. It’s a do…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 11:58 AM
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Who said improving their lives is worse than suicide? Are you illiterate?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 11:51 AM
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When have I ever said I would be a passport bro? I will wire you $1000 if you find it. I’m doing fine in America, none of you are wife material is the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 11:18 AM
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Nothing about it is emotional, just observant of reality. Cry ab it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 11:17 AM
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Not only are you pulling stats out of your ass, but Countries like Thailand, Japan, the Netherlands, etc. already have legal prostitution to varying levels. The average age of someone entering the industry is not fucking 14, be real. And in this system things would obviously be regulated like it is in places it’s legal. Men would need to be tested prior, there would be security, etc. Of course there will be cases that slip through the cracks, but do you think it being underground right now is be…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 11:10 AM
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Because the overall discussion isn’t about me. I see a problem and acknowledge it. If I misunderstood your response sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:56 AM
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I agree with you. All I’m saying is the majority of men can’t or won’t put in the effort to uproot their lives just for the chance to be with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:52 AM
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Men also aren’t obligated to pussy or the right to start a family. That’s an opportunity every individual has to create for themselves. If the solution is to go overseas, amazing. If it’s not realistic, prepare yourself for the uphill battle that is western dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:50 AM
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That’s why I said the “urge” to start a family. I think it’s rooted in men biologically to want offspring even if it doesn’t make sense. Almost anytime I have sex, my instincts are literally telling me to impregnate this woman, but logic overrules. It’s like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:47 AM
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Maybe I’m tired, but I’m not entirely sure what you angle is or point of contention tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:42 AM
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You’re right, but like I already said men will never leave the west in bulk. The majority of struggling men will simply exist where they are rather than make a dramatic life change by moving to a Country where 99 out of 100 times they don’t speak the native language fluently if at all. There’s also losing access/proximity to family members, friends, finding stable work, etc. It’s not as simple as you make it out to be. Just because you can hypothetically be a 10 in Japan doesn’t mean you’ll have…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:39 AM
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It’s just a synonym for having children, not that deep. Simply passing on the last name or any traditions a family may have had. You are your grandparents’ legacy even if they didn’t accomplish shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:31 AM
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W, don’t feed them the game 🤝😂 They tried to get it out of me too
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:22 AM
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They aren’t but that’s why I said a modern scale. The west has progressed to a point where average women don’t find average men attractive. Other countries don’t deal with that issue, but had they lived in the same conditions they probably would be the same. Religion is also good in regulating this sort of stuff, but that’s lost in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:11 AM
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You’re mad, I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:08 AM
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I’ve already explained this, look for my replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:07 AM
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I’m sure this is the case in most instances, Jonah Hill or KeKe Palmer’s boyfriend for example, but people don’t care it’s toxic when men have standards
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:41 AM
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Then the men there will become the men here. Everyone is simply not meant to reproduce. In ancient times they were the ones that died earlier. In modern society it’s possible for those who would have died to live long lives now. I am not mad at your solution, it will just not happen in bulk. Instead of being eaten by predators or killed by other humans, these men who are on the opposite side of “survival of the fittest” in the reproduction game are sedated by porn, video games, television, etc. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:37 AM
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You know they aren’t mutually exclusive right? And toys don’t intimidate me because they can’t compare the the real thing. Plus sex is more than PIV. I’ve had a woman send a meme that her body “took a screenshot” from me fingering her. Like I said, just putting on an amazing performance, especially initially increases the chances of her genuinely wanting you and not just settling for what’s left which will always lead to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:15 AM
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What I said literally means I want to please my partner. What are you on about lol. I still need to be one of her best or I run the risk of losing her. That’s what the studies imply.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:02 AM
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I can use your initial logic and say everyone she slept around with is 7+ inches then. Or like the other guy implied, she’s seen a bunch of big dicks due to the quantity and those experiences stick out to her. I don’t think she’s actually calculating the average size of the men she’s been with. And he would know more about her than us, she probably had a certain type of attitude that led him to that conclusion. To negatively comment on a mans size to his face is some hoe shit if I’m being honest…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:53 AM
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Possible, highly unlikely. Girls don’t know how to measure though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:46 AM
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You’re absolutely right. It’s why I as a man feel like I have to drop a monster performance anytime I sleep with someone I think I’d be interested in long term. Sadly all men cannot become a “great” lovers even if they try as the expectations/goal post likely move as she gains more bodies. This varies woman to woman but as you get older it’s inevitable to a degree. What do you mean by that last sentence tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:42 AM
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She’d never reveal the true number lol. Maybe if she was a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:40 AM
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You’re coping because there’s no going back. The correlation is no coincidence, I promise you that. And it makes perfect sense, I’ll tell you why. Women compare past lovers, naturally. When they inevitably settle because their time is running out to find a quality long term partner, he too will be compared. His sex game, penis size, emotional intelligence, general IQ, earning potential, how he makes her feel, etc are all variables that will be compared, even if it’s subconsciously done. Let’s ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:36 AM
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Never said nor implied any of that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 11:36 PM
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Not sure but that sacrifice is probably worth it for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 11:15 PM
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There are plenty of studies that show the amount of partners a woman has had does matter, so it is that deep. And the truth always comes to light eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 11:11 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 10:54 PM
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OP is wrong on that, but it’s not even about what her body feels like in terms of what men are worried about. They simply don’t want a partner who had been slutted out because there are tons of implications that can drawn from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 10:52 PM
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My stomach turns when I see women admit they’ve lied and said their bodycount is 3 or 5 when in reality it’s in the 20s. That is an insane foundation to start a relationship on. Thankfully character traits can help you discern and get a ballpark estimate, but even that isn’t enough sometimes. The most innocent looking women are ran through as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 10:49 PM
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Women just need to diet properly and do at home workouts. Going to the gym isn’t necessary to stay physically attractive for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 05:38 AM
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If a woman isn’t instinctually attracted to you or has a burning desire, you will be facing an uphill battle where you need to compensate in other ways. That means you can’t ejaculate too fast, have sex when she wants to, and not come on too strong in the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 05:22 AM
2

Just don’t take it out on others. Continue to improve and you’ll increase your odds in comparison to doing nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 08:08 AM
2

Thank you for sharing!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:30 PM
1

Thanks for your input!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:28 PM
2

That's pretty much me. I'm 6'2, attractive, and soon will have a great job. But the women I were dealing with ended up less than ideal so I just took a break. It sucks, but a lot of women may think something is wrong with me or I'm a player when I start dating again lol. When in reality I just want someone I'm completely compatible with instead of forcing a relationship despite the red flags I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:44 PM
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There being a disparity between what many see/experience as reality and the data from these dating apps simply shows that massive platforms like Instagram or Snapchat aren't being accounted for. The ratio on Instagram is far more even, and many consider it to be a dating app in itself at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:56 AM
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If you being their first partner meant having everything you want in a man (a super simp) would you deal with the learning phase? I'm presuming you want something long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:48 AM
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With all due respect, I don't think the data in your last point accounts for Gen Z, or even young milllenials. Just from anecdotal evidence or browsing the internet, it seems skewed in favor of women. But you are definitely correct that a ton of matches doesn't mean they're going out with them, however I wonder about the physiological impact. If we go with your line of reasoning that their matches aren't genuine due to lack of filter by men, having a shit ton of matches will create the illusion …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:34 AM
2

Fair points. I've been pretty isolated and definitely feel my social skills slipping since moving to remote school. Conversations with people I know are still fine but interacting with new people has just been weird in general. Will def work on that before I get back into the game, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:27 AM
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For me, it's the stage before being official. Going on dates, getting to know each other, there was casual sex in one of the two cases I mentioned, but the ultimate goal was to still get them to be my girlfriend. "Feeling out period" maybe is a concise way to put it, don't know if there's another term for it. I thought I was using the word correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:25 AM
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Fair enough. Ty
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:21 AM
2

What does the word situationship mean to you, that takes away from anything I've said?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:21 AM
2

How old are you? Do the majority of girls you know (over 50%) also have little to no experience too?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:11 AM
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Actually 🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 09:27 PM
1

Nothing matters, they don’t change. Just do you man while sparing feelings when possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 05:12 AM
1

Andre Tate might do that, but Andrew Tate certainly had no reason to with hoards of women throwing themselves at him FOR FREE. Delusional extreme left cope. He’s innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:18 PM
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You’re desperate. Complete NPC.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 05:05 AM
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Delusional if you think a man worth hundreds of millions is stupid enough to traffic women. Use deductive reasoning alongside the lack of proof, and proof in his favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 05:02 AM
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And you believe it why? It’s already been proven to be false.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:25 PM
0

He and Tristian have made 4 women millionaires, he said that about taking the entire cut to trigger NPCs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:30 PM
1

It’s a joke you femboy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:22 PM
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Social media has raised the standard and they want what they see, simple. It’s no different than only 40% of men historically reproducing vs 80% of women reproducing. It’s survival of the fittest on a modernized scale, but will ultimately just lead to more single women as well, since even most top men don’t have the time or resources to father children with multiple women or even just be in serious relationships with multiple women with how society is constructed. Something that can correct this…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:26 PM
-1

What’s your body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:40 PM
1

Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 06:24 PM
3

You wouldn’t have to be in love, let’s be real.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 10:20 PM
1

This is a horrible post.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 02:25 PM
1

Can’t be mad when others use those same terms then, it doesn’t make sense even if the context is diff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 01:45 AM
3

Women call themselves derogatory terms
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 11:38 PM
1

I’d argue women don’t know what average is and you’re probably over inflating. I know mine isn’t that big but I’ve had girls gasp when they saw it or comment on the size. To answer though, no I don’t think so. Unless it’s really small, then for sure but they’re exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:33 PM
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If you can’t accept that 1 + 1 = 2 then I agree you can’t be civil, and honestly there’s nothing to “debate” about as you aren’t really open to listening to the other side, but are just waiting to shamelessly respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:50 AM
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A lot of them are fed up with clown takes about how they as men are supposed to view the world (ex: body count for LTR) and I see a lot of horrible takes on this sub from all sides. So any hostility you feel from them stems from that. When 1 + 1 = 2 and someone is trying to convince you it doesn’t, the following conversation won’t be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:44 AM
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I’d never base my presumption about an entire community of people on a subreddit that isn’t even dedicated to them. But like I said, you’d rather just be ignorant than do 5 minutes of research because it’s fun to troll “incels”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:34 AM
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Broad generalization that shows you only consume toxic clips your algorithm feeds you. That’s not what the manosphere or rp space is about at all. Simply put it gives men the harsh truths, and the tools to deal with said truths. Ex: You like a hot girl, there’s a high likelihood she’s already entertaining other guys. Don’t get too attached until exclusivity is established. Or pieces on how to become the best version of yourself possible so she wants you over her other options. It’s not a misogyn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:29 AM
2

I love women and disagree with many takes in the RP. This for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:22 AM
2

Quite ignorant of you. Many subgroups simply believe in undeniable facts. You just don’t like how it makes you feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:17 AM
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I’m telling you why he has a low opinion on the manosphere. Any man who completely disagrees with the ideologies of the manosphere is an effeminate beta, I’m just reporting the facts to you. You use the word Incel but beta is where you draw the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:10 AM
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Are you confused about something I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:02 AM
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“Pretty sure he'd have to be financially supporting me to be a beta....?” Pretty sure implies you have an understanding of the meaning dear. Not really as much as an insult as it is a description based on things you say. Society is trying to make most men betas so as long as you’re happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:56 AM
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Beta bucks does not equal beta. It’s just a type of beta, not all betas have money. You don’t even know what a beta is but you’re speaking on it like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:47 AM
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That’s not what a beta is dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:22 AM
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I’ve seen your takes and have even wasted time debating you. Your husband is a huge beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:35 AM
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That’s insane if true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:26 AM
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It’s literally true. I can’t tell you how many regular girls in my circles have had verified men in their dms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:24 AM
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You’re reaching so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:23 AM
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Her money is her money. Your money is hers and your money. Equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:20 AM
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This isn’t an argument about whether or not they lie about count, it’s clearly just a hypothetical where the information is known. I never said anything about women being looser because they’ve had more parents either. The best sex I’ve ever had was with a hoe, but I’d never take her seriously JUST because of that. If this woman is potentially going to be a reflection of my future daughter, or someone I’m supposed to claim in public, why would I take someone who gives their box out like candy vs…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:34 PM
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Why does the 50 count have to be hotter? Why can’t they be equal in attractiveness? You’re completely avoiding the point of my question by moving the parameters. And yeah, the 50 count has more baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:20 PM
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“A bad experience” did not mean she couldn’t improve in time. If you have two girls who are almost exactly the same but one had 10 bodies, and the other 50 bodies, who are you taking for a LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:11 PM
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Why aren’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:10 PM
1

One of the worst takes I’ve ever seen on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:08 PM
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One of the two can make a comeback at pretty much any point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:29 AM
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“High Value Men” shouldn’t be able to cheat just because most women want them and they can’t control themselves. The quote “You’re only as faithful as your options” is an excuse for rich men to cheat. We all understand how hurtful it is being done wrong by your partner, so to think a woman should just accept her man cheating because he’s heavily desired is crazy to me because I know it hurts. I do understand that having the ability to attract women in the same way women attract men is an incredi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:08 PM
1

This is why women want a guy that’s better than them. Stronger, taller, better finances, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:51 PM
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https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Alpha%20Fucks%20Beta%20Bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:20 PM
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The other person literally just told you. Alpha fucks, beta bucks. It takes two seconds to look up on google.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:19 PM
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My bad. I thought you knew what it meant. But what they said
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:00 PM
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The lack of awareness is inspiring
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:25 AM
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I think that’s the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:24 AM
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Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:24 AM
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This is such cap. I recently graduated and not only went to a big university, but partied and visited a ton as well. Most girls were down for anything if the right guy approached them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:23 AM
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Seems to be
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:17 AM
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A huge rack is nice but I could not care less in most instances about the size unless they’re nonexistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:39 PM
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I don’t agree with everything, but sound advice overall. For example, dressing sexy, and at school of all places will just attract the wrong kind of attention. It can also put her in compromising positions. Even if she isn’t asking for aggressive reactions from men, they will perceive her as certain way. So I personally wouldn’t encourage her to go out the way to dress “sexy”. Not to say she needs to dress like a nun, but there’s a fine line. It’s also not as simple as telling men they need to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:13 AM
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Nailed it pretty well. Most men have a desire to leave behind a legacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:34 AM
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Not stupid, unaware of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:59 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:58 PM
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Examples of their behavior or characteristics which I think you mean are that they’re typically leaders, protective, assertive, dominant, charismatic, emotionally unavailable, dismissive of her feelings, and confidence which some can confuse for ego. I’ve seen a lot of women say they like the challenge or chase. Also seen women say they want to fix him. I couldn’t make that up if I tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:33 PM
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How is it mistreatment if they like it? Not understanding what you’re asking for
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:23 PM
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Pure facts. It all comes back to men giving them that ego though. It’ll never go away unless they realize most guys literally just want to smash them which is why they get so much attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:17 PM
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They’re synonymous nowadays. Being nice all the time as it pertains to who you are is being too nice. I’m not saying assholes always have to be that way, but they rarely do nice guy shit. Nice guys don’t throw a wrench in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:14 PM
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This guy gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:12 PM
0

Then learn about it because it’s accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:10 PM
1

Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:10 PM
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May have been true once upon a time, but things have and are changing fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:46 PM
1

Give or take a few qualities of an alpha for bad boys and a beta for kind fellas.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:34 PM
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Plenty of average guys who also happen to be nice are settled for after women gave their best years to the bad boys, yes, very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:28 PM
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Because nice or kind men typically lose their confidence from constant rejection. Not all of them develop the confidence women expect of them. Can I ask why men need all these qualities just to get their foot in the door yet a woman simply has to be a 5 out of 10 looks wise? Maybe the problem is the female ego thinking they deserve more than they are, since attention is free and value is given at birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:16 PM
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You’re again conflating a core trait with a man’s entire personality and existence, for this reason I don’t know why. Imagine the guy you just said, but he makes 50 grand. Now imagine an even more confident, charismatic, funny etc. guy who has bad boy tendencies women find attractive. Second guy wins any day of the week for most women, EASILY.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:05 PM
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I’ve already stated you aren’t the typical woman, so your perspective may be different. Also, women say one thing and mean the other so you’re one of the two in my eyes. Who women date and complain about in bulk is proof enough they don’t date who they say they want to (nice men) unless they have value.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:51 PM
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No one said this is the absolute truth, I said this is true in the majority of cases. My anecdotal information holds more weight than you because I’m literally a man who dates women, and know countless men that do as well who do or used to report similar stories. Until you’re a man who dates women, I don’t think your perspective holds a lot of weight at all. Just like I wouldn’t dismiss a woman saying most men aren’t attractive. I’d listen to her perspective and offer my insight on said situatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:40 PM
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Right back at you. You’re trying to making a circular argument for something evident in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:27 PM
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Do female assholes deserve the ideal man you described?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:13 PM
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Because women say one thing and mean the other. It’s why men should never take dating advice from a woman. I am a man, I hang out with mostly men, I am telling you there’s a difference. You’ve never dated as a man. Ofc there are unicorns of a woman out there who do not like men with asshole tendencies but they are the minority as I’ve already said. You’re asking for stats on something that’s impossible to study, specifically because women will typically not admit to liking bad qualities in a per…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:10 PM
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Do they deserve those guys when they’re the equivalent of a male asshole with or without realizing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:02 PM
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My research stems beyond people I’ve talked to. I already mentioned podcast and social media. Not sure how to quantify the stats on multiple videos of women saying they don’t like nice guys having millions of likes accurately. It simply allows me to make inferences that reinforce my anecdotal information. You have nothing but anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:54 PM
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You’re gonna have to do your own research if you refuse to look outside your own bubble. You also just named 5 or 6 qualities that very rarely any man will completely fulfill. “Too nice” is basically just being nice all the time. You need to throw wrenches in there at times, for no reason if need be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:33 PM
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It's the most common variable. There's 0% chance all of these guys are boring. These women wouldn't entertain them if that were the case. If it's not there, it can't automatically be implied. Most men will be average earners, that's why it's average. Most women cannot be with top earning men, yet the overwhelming majority want them. Doesn't change the fact that regular earning "nice" men are being misled by the notion that women are attracted to kindness. Their odds are better if they become "as…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:01 PM
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Proving my point even further LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:59 PM
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Awwww, you're mad. No reason to lie on an anonymous platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:58 PM
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Women in masses have openly admitted to this being the case. That there being nothing wrong with the guy other than him being "too nice". First off, I know a shit ton of people, and can tell you a lot of these guys are catches even if they aren't the most financially well off or handsome. I also have women friends who have given juvenile reasons as to why they want to move on from someone. If this isn't enough to draw some sort of implication, I've seen countless shorts or tiktoks accumulating m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:56 PM
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"I'm completely triggered and have nothing to add to the discussion" vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:44 PM
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Wtf does that even mean? I'm in the 95th percentile of height, am fit, have modeled, and am almost done with my Masters degree. I have 0 trouble getting women. Try again bum.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:43 PM
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Giving feminist shaming tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:41 PM
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You're also speaking as a woman who uses reddit. This isn't meant to be offensive or anything, but "normie" women who are the majority, not the minority, aren't on reddit. Your line of thinking based on this information alone tells me you likely have different perspectives than the women most men are forced to date. Or maybe most women are just broken and toxic. Hate the game, not the player. And no man is looking for someone toxic, but they can only take so much rejection before they're forced …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:39 PM
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Plenty of nice "hot" guys have fumbled the bag. Women have plenty of options nowadays, being hot is not enough if you aren't bringing more to the table. It will get you laid, but not give you a LTR which is mainly what I'm referencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:29 PM
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I clearly illustrated what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:26 PM
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Completely ignoring the point. Whether or not first relationships work or not is irrelevant, it was to illustrate a point. This is the first time when a man's BS meter starts to tick. I think heartbreak is necessary for a man to understand he was fed lies growing up. It will likely take them a few more relationships of rinsing and repeating treating a woman with the utmost respect to realize that it doesn't work in most cases. As soon as most men switch to not caring or being an asshole, the res…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:25 PM
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I agree, but why do broke or average earning men who are assholes have advantages over kind men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:16 PM
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How are you coming to that conclusion? You just made the presumption that all guys or most of them complaining of fickle women are boring and attractive. How are they even in the talking stage if we're using YOUR logic? ​ But yes, if you take note of all the women saying they don't like nice men and ignore all the ones saying they do it will confirm what you are saying. They are the same women saying those things. They just leave out the part where he has to be a high status individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:12 PM
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I don't think I am. Being kind vs asshole is the common theme for regular guys who get played, versus regular guys who get play.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:05 PM
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You can't control a woman who you like and are dating, losing attraction and not liking you back when all you've done is treat her right/have a good time. It's how most men experience their first heartbreak, we aren't taught the truth. That is getting walked over imo, because it almost feels like being led on for doing the "right things". Those "right things" only apply when you have something of value outside of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:04 PM
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Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:59 PM
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Being nice is probably correlated with being boring and unattractive then by that logic. And I say there aren't hard stats to prove this, but referenced social media for a reason. Download Tiktok and within 10 minutes, you'll see women blatantly exposing themselves by saying the very points I'm making; that they don't like nice guys because **Insert illogical reason**. I can't tell you how many videos I've seen of women saying a guy was perfect but there wasn't enough drama. These videos get mil…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:55 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:49 PM
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No one is out here calling themselves nice guys, but their actions are that of a respectful and kind potential partner. It just doesn't work out more often than not when they aren't bringing more value to the table. ​ “You can’t just be only nice, you have to also be found attractive by the woman” is essentially your last two paragraphs and I am confused why this is shocking? That is not what I'm saying at all, like another person in this thread you are taking it to the extreme. Most people have…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:47 PM
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How poor are we talking? I was never poor and my family went to Walmart all the time lol. While anecdotes are good, I don't think what you're talking about is relative to the general population, specifically the modern dating market. Also, had those women been in an environment to be with more financially well off men, I doubt they marry their current husbands, but their type of love is better, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:39 PM
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Did you read the first sentence of the post? And being nice doesn't mean it's your personality, it's just a component of who you are at your core. i.e., how you treat people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:31 PM
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It varies. Status for instance, in high school or college, are the athletes, people with clout on social media, frat guys, well known guys, etc. They have more status than the regular "floater" or normal guy. Both can be nice, the ones with more status will be chosen. In the real world, it can again be clout or social presence, degree level, job title, anything that can help social proof you. Financially, I'd say the low end to the average guys is 30k, the high end is 60k. For the above average …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:27 PM
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I know, the guys who are actually nice are the ones I'm referencing. Average earning ones vs higher earning ones. I don't think the overwhelming majority of men are some callous assholes that are pretending to be nice for some chance at play. At least not in my circles, so that's where we disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:19 PM
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You are taking it to the extreme with the 0 personality thing. Most people have personalities that make them uniquely them. I know a ton of hilarious guys who I reference in the post that used to get walked over. I also know a ton of genuine assholes that have a lot of women, but not necessarily a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:12 PM
1

Aren't they the minority, or exceptions to the rule?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:09 PM
1

The message is more spread now though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:59 PM
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Won’t be making a million but will be making great money with a masters degree sometime next year at 24 years old so this resonates somewhat or will. I ponder this question a lot, about what I’ll do. I’ve been able to have decent success with women because I’m tall, attractive, and have a good personality. Could never retain the ones I wanted for a LTR though because I was too nice, bluepilled, and didn’t have anything going for myself yet. I kind of look at it as “If they didn’t want me for a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:10 PM
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This is mainly for smashing purposes, not relationships. If you’re 33, single, hot, etc. men will question your past, and wonder why you’re single still. Specifically higher value men. It matters despite the agenda the blue pill tries to push
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:34 PM
1

This is my first response to you, so what is according to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:32 PM
0

Understanding reality and not living in a bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:29 PM
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Because Reddit women think they’re superior and different.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:33 PM
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People on this sub make things more difficult than need be. It was a simple question, likely about initial attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:32 PM
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You can’t say it’s overblown if it’s the majority of cases. No one is saying the short guy can’t ever find love, but if dating as a 6ft+ man is difficult, then the ODDS are as a shorter man it will be even more difficult. The Red Pill operates on probabilities, not possibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:59 PM
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Best post I’ve seen in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:51 PM
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Literally could not care less.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:47 PM
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Being a top 20% man encapsulates multiple attributes, not just physicals. Also I’m 6’2, 220 pounds and am considered “overweight” despite me looking better than most men because I workout religiously and have muscle. Those stats can be misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:44 PM
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Dated a girl and your situation is eerily similar to mine. Don’t want to be pessimistic but just know she’s done that before with other guys, and there’s a chance you won’t be the last. Some girls are serial daters. I thought since she offered to pay (and forcibly did sometimes), initiated convos and plans, made sexual advances, that I found a good one. Few months into dating the “coldness” started showing itself, she wasn’t initiating as much, longer to reply, etc. Everything was perfect until …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:25 PM
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Many different cultures, pretty much all of them, have the double standard of the master key shitty lock, without having even been in contact with one another. Wouldn’t that imply it’s biological? Outside of recent years, what established society celebrated female promiscuity?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 04:04 PM
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Lost me at bisexual
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 04:01 PM
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😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:59 PM
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I agree. He hasn’t actually done anything though, just acknowledged the attention he’s getting and shared some intrusive thoughts. If he does take that route, he should make sure he’s single first. But I told him it’s not worth it in another thread as he has what most men would kill for: a woman who was with him before he found success. Loyalty he knows he won’t find again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 12:33 AM
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The lads are giving up. More opportunity for those willing to put in the work, more concern for lonely hate filled men. That latest school shooting was carried out by an “incel”.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 12:05 AM
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Premium delusion right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 11:59 PM
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When I noticed the same patterns with women who I made sure to be “perfect” for. They lost attraction, ghosted, and never explained why even after building a connection that warranted an explanation at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 11:34 PM
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I see a lot of people saying age, but can that be the case of age fades whereas height is permanent?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:33 PM
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Great day to be a tall man. But can it really be age for women since that eventually fades too?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:32 PM
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This makes a lot of sense actually. Most women also don’t understand what it means to live in the complete absence of sexual attention by or not by choice as men do. Even if not their intentions, they have more opportunities for casual encounters so what I’m saying about being single without any sort of intimacy may seem foreign or not relatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 06:06 PM
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You’re purposefully ignoring the implications made because you have no point to make and are upset. No one is saying they aren’t single, but they aren’t single either. It makes perfect sense to anyone who has no agenda to push.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:59 PM
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Again, argument of semantics. If you can't read between the lines I can't help you. Also, dating/going on dates is what generally leads up to casual sex. I don't know too many women who are just fucking without having been taken out first. Yes they exist, but they aren't a minority. Having casual sex with people you don't even like enough to seriously date as a woman says more about you than anyone. All I'm saying is that if most men have hard evidence that you're sleeping with people and going …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:47 PM
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Your GF can’t help if men approach her / hit on her, so no, you shouldn’t be mad at her for that. But how would you feel if you found out she was secretly conflicted and really really wanted to fuck these other guys that hit on her? So far she hasn’t cheated and she acknowledges you’ve been loyal and don’t really deserve to be cheated on….but it’s a struggle for her because she wants to play the field and she feels like she’s missing out by staying faithful to you. How would I feel? Inadequate, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:27 PM
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He hasn't done anything but simply acknowledge the attention he's getting. Would I be wrong to accuse my girlfriend of cheating because men keep approaching her? Duh. His acknowledgement of this newfound attention has him questioning whether or not he's missing out. As simple as that. Difference is not a lot of men get the opportunity to experience what he is (rare), virtually every woman who's anywhere from a 5-10 on an attractiveness scale experiences attention from the opposite sex (common). …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:18 PM
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I must admit, that's a huge plus for you. In that you have someone who desired you for who you were before you made it. If I don't find someone before I make it, I won't even know if their love is genuine/unconditional to a degree which sucks. I do think you're in a great position but I understand your concerns completely. However, it is cool that I get to "find myself", "explore my options", "have fun", and use all the other bs excuses women use to be promiscuous for myself. I've been able to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:10 PM
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And I know some really ugly men who still get laid regularly, and attractive women who struggle 🤷 but it doesn't actually matter - the point is he made a stupid and untrue tendered distinction, this isn't a thing that's different for men and women. If you're single, you're single. Respectfully, you have no idea what you're talking about. And if these men *are* actually ugly, they bring something else to the table that is enabling them to get laid as opposed to simply existing like most women nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:53 PM
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This is an argument of semantics, there are enough context clues to understand what OP means, but it’s more convenient to be disingenuous and literally fixated on words for the sake of your position. OP obviously is implying women who are labeled as “single”, but are still romantically involved with others. This isn’t that hard to comprehend. When romance is involved, it’s not truly being single hence the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:30 PM
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How many men are having casual sex vs women? I know moderately attractive men who go months or years without getting lucky, and I know moderately attractive women who can have sex on a whim. It’s not the same at all. And by not “truly” being single, OP is implying going on dates and entertaining others romantically without the “title” or commitment. You people try so hard to poke holes when all the context clues needed are in the post. Acting completely disingenuous and literal minded/fixated on…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:23 PM
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Tell me you’re avoiding the question without telling me you’re avoiding the question 🙋‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:16 PM
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I’m on the verge of being a “high value” man relatively young, and despite wanting a LTR, I might avoid it for this very reason. I’ve had to watch women have their cake and eat it too my whole life, so I want to see what the hype is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:14 PM
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What he’s describing is literally what women do in their 20s. Difference is he had to work for that “privilege” and if he’s wrong for considering exploring his options at his peak, then condemn modern women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:11 PM
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Is his clout, status, and being an attention magnet not being accounted for here?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 10:42 AM
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This is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:09 PM
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Well then there’s a disconnect in what we’re talking about. Where are you from?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:41 PM
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You’re a hypocrite though. No one is forcing you to abide by whatever cultural standards you’re referencing. Women can do everything a man can in 2022 if you’re in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:39 PM
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So no, got it. Interesting double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:36 PM
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I’m curious, do most women you know in that age range including yourself have their own place?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:29 PM
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Then lower your standards if you want to date idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:16 PM
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Calling cap unless you attract bums in your circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:14 PM
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People with low end jobs can live on their own, I’m sure they can. Not like you’d know the details of all their lives. Saying all of them can’t is a stupid assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:06 PM
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You can have enough to live on your own and opt to live with your parents. Have you seen rent prices lately? If anything it shows financial responsibility. I’m in that age bracket and a lot of men I know around that age have good salaries and are living at home to save up or pay their debts. Just because they haven’t moved out doesn’t mean they can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 03:29 PM
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You’re the friend huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 03:23 PM
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It very well can be height, you don’t need to run from that. Height is important and people will lie to your face and say it’s not. That makes your journey in terms of romance more difficult, but not impossible. However you NEED to have your shit together, preferably have an aesthetic body which is easier to do at your height, and NEED to be charismatic/funny. It’s sucks, but women have a shit ton of guys entertaining them. The competition is fierce, and if their natural instinct is to desire ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:49 AM
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What can realistically be “wrong” with you for both men and women not having a desire to have friendships/relationships with you? Be honest with yourself. And some people have to work harder than others for the same results.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:04 AM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:44 AM
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I’d be lying if I said I didn’t understand you. But understand you need to be honest and identify what the possible issues could be. Classmates and coworkers are going to tell you what you want to hear, they aren’t your friends and have no incentive to give you harsh truths. I have had coworkers who I knew I could hang out with outside of the job, and coworkers who I knew I would never hang out with outside of the job. It doesn’t mean that I treated them worse than the coworkers I would hang wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:43 AM
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This is easier said than done depending on details he’s omitted from the post. And happy cake day dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:12 AM
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Well, you’re much better off now than you would’ve been had you not done anything. I know a lot of context is missing but it almost seems as if you’re trying to force things. Which admittedly is weird to say because if you don’t take initiative, sometimes nothing will happen. We live in a weird point in time where building relationships outside of school environments is extremely difficult, so I understand your concerns. I don’t think there’s a one size fits all type answer for why you can’t mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:08 AM
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I think this heavily applies to Gen Z women. I know a lot of girls that check multiple boxes here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:49 AM
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Not sure why this is a difficult concept to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:41 AM
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That’s not a high standard friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:07 PM
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What’s stable income to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:13 PM
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What’s your end goal?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:12 PM
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These single women still have romantic/intimate and social lives while the men at most have friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:57 AM
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You’re missing the point on why the percentages matter. Someone has to date these women with what you just admitted can come with unfavorable traits. Most people want monogamy, and all of these women can’t logically end up with the 5-10% of men they’re mainly sleeping with. And these men are such a minority not only because of their value, but because they are DESIRED by women. Back to why the percentages matter, basically 60% of women can’t end up with 10% of men in a monogamous setting. If the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:25 PM
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You’ve just answered you own question. If only 5-10% have it easy, how are they even statistically significant? Whereas in 2022 at the VERY LEAST 60% of young women exercise the ability to be promiscuous. And it’s different because those men had to do something, become somebody, develop themselves financially, mentally, and/or physically; whatever you want to call it, to have the ability to be promiscuous so it’s generally glossed over. Women are born with that power and most abuse it until they…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:39 PM
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I see what you’re saying, but I’m under the impression that these are the men who are settled for. There isn’t necessarily anything wrong with them, they were just never the first choice. Not having casual sex and never having sex aren’t the same. Average men get theirs every now and then, but the frequency is MUCH lower than “desirable” men and average to above average women in 2022. So it’s not that they can wife hoes up easily, but more often than not they’re the backup plan guy if the promis…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:04 PM
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I agree. While it sucks, you need to level the playing field if you want a chance. You can get lucky as a regular guy, but it’s called luck for a reason. A lot of men don’t have the discipline so if you do the work as a guy you will see improvements in your dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:15 PM
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Well I think it’s an argument of semantics here. I don’t literally think it’s “unfair” women get to engage in casual sex easily and men have to work hard for it. Rather it’s more like an observed truth, and women try to deny it by claiming most men have casual sex too when it’s far from the truth. Whether or not that math is understood, I think most people should at least acknowledge it and stop lumping normal “incel” men in with the minority. It leads to presumptions about people with genuine i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:09 PM
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Because having casual sex as a woman is disgustingly easy. No one wants a woman that showed so much lack of discipline for something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:51 PM
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Dating is much different than when you were young. Young women have 100x the options you did and do now. Your friends at the wall get asked out by guys they don’t desire, that’s why they’re single. The guys who they might actually want just want to smash, another reason they’re single. Also I never said all of the only women I know over 30 are relatives, I said many of them are so I have close perspectives of the ones who fucked up and who didn’t. You can’t comprehend anything or you just convin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:44 PM
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Someone with a brain
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:15 AM
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Men are the pursuers, women are the pursued, don’t get it misconstrued. It’s not mutually beneficial when the ratio of men to women engaging in casual sex with each other is not 1:1. In other words a minority of men are smashing the majority of women. This is still tens of millions of men, and that’s what it seems more apparent than it is. Hundreds of millions of guys rarely have luck though and are invisible. It is unfair, a lot of average guys cannot get with average women. Again, only the min…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:11 AM
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You’re at the wall, everything you’ve said up until now makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:17 AM
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I know a lot of women over 30, many of them being relatives, but I hold no biases. I don’t “hang” out with women at the wall because why would I? I’m not dating them. Also great straw man, you’re amazing at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 12:15 AM
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Oh for sure. I have no proof, but I’m positive I’ve lost a couple of dimes to an older, more established man. When I realized that it added motivation to get myself in order. Consistently in the gym and will be making well into 6 figures next year. I already have luck with women because of how I look and game (which is probably rusty since I don’t go out much currently) but being established will make me unstoppable. Glad I figured that out relatively young.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:50 PM
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Getting sex when you’re older is very what? I think you mistyped
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:59 PM
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They’re sick in the head 😂 what decent man would take a hoe seriously? Is my daughter supposed to emulate those type of characteristics and values when she grows up? We are men, we know what they want, but that’s not good enough for them. There’s nothing wrong with having previous partners, but at a certain point it tells me you just don’t value yourself or can’t contain a man for good reason. If the last 30 guys didn’t want you why should I? Being pumped and dumped has become empowering because…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:20 PM
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Why do I have to hang with them to know they settle? Things happen outside of my world friend. I’m 23 so the women I’m around aren’t settling and they’re mostly having their fun. Some will date for a bit before thinking the grass is greener and the cycle continues. Others are just out here casually dating. These women aren’t the ones who settle, they’re decent looking and can “get” any guy they want cause our standards are simple. When they hit 30+ is when they settle because at that point the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:58 PM
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Women settle all the time, your delusion is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:45 PM
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Just like women at the wall settling for men they don’t like to avoid being alone is desperate and unattractive lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:40 PM
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Yes, but men have way more redeemable qualities outside of their face to be deemed as attractive by women. They can develop a great body, earn a lot of money, of develop their charisma and game which is harder than it sounds. Improving these in tandem or even separately can save a man in the dating game. Fat, old, rich men have young hot women on their boats because they have money. Charismatic “ugly” looking men like Pete Davidson can pull a hot woman like Kim Kardashian because they have confi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:15 AM
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These are the men that shoot up public places and take others with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:00 AM
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That just mean your goals don’t align, wanting a kid has nothing to do with them being a low quality PERSON. Where you and I differ is I believe in objective truths when it comes to people. Women who are beautiful and kind are objectively better than women who are average looking and think their shit doesn’t stink. You can say “wEll SoMe PeOple woUld pRefeR thE seCond wOman” but we know 95% of people are picking the first woman so why does that 5% even matter when it’s not significant? And the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:04 PM
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That was sarcasm dear but thank you for making my point. Just because an average guy can deal with women doesn’t mean they’re good quality in some aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:41 PM
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I’m sure your guy friends are swimming in options of attractive women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:33 PM
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Appreciate it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:22 AM
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There you go again. “The average man I know” no one cares about your anecdotes. You definition of average isn’t average. The average man isn’t even getting laid, especially after graduating, so I must be doing something right.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:15 AM
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None of that applies to me. I am not an average man, but I feel empathy towards them. A trait you’re lacking because of your inability to look beyond yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:39 PM
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That’s great for you, but if you notice I’m speaking about the majority, not individual exceptions to the rule because the majority is what matters. If every woman thought like you, we’d probably live in a Utopia. But men have to operate and live in reality, and the fact is that traditionally masculine or RP type men are at the top of the food chain. A lot of women say what you say in terms of desiring equality and a partnership. But what women say and want are two different things typically, no…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 09:58 PM
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Women on every financial earning level initiate divorce but I agree. My future wife won’t be a bum.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 09:44 PM
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You don’t account for the general population of women then, as simple as that. And being in a relationship with you must be insufferable if you think catering to your partner is something to be looked at as repulsive. It should be a mutual thing. You sound like you want a live in friend who you have sex with. I’m sure a lot of weak dudes would happily sign up for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 09:42 PM
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You need to read more carefully, I said they THOUGHT that, it doesn’t mean it was true. I further clarified when I said infatuation and love can cloud our judgements, even the most stoic of people. Not sure why you think you had an “AHA!” moment. I’m not excusing these people’s fuck up, I’m simply stating what it is in response to your points. One of which is “marry your best friend” as if it’s just that simple. Agree to disagree, but a very common trope at weddings is the declaration of being e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 09:37 PM
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That makes sense based on some of the healthiest relationships I know. But I’m not sure of where the stigma of church girls being “crazy” or the “freakiest” comes from. It might just be the opposite population of women trying to make them seem less desirable, and it kind of just worked on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 09:18 PM
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There are gender roles because there are things men are better at than women, and vice versa. It is nothing to be offended about. Are there some things where the line is blurred? Sure. A woman can take out the trash, but generally they’d prefer not to if their husband/bf is around. A woman can be the breadwinner and take the financial load, but many studies have already proven women at every economic level want their men making more than them (GENERALLY). Almost everything about traditional masc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 09:11 PM
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If we’re going with your line of thinking, most people’s “best friend” is someone they aren’t sexually attracted to. For example, my best friends are men, and the women who I consider to be some of my best friends are relatives. As a Heterosexual man with morals, this is obviously not a realistic route in marry one of them. What I meant by people thinking they married their best friend is that infatuation or love can lead even the most logical man to not use his head. They can conflate those fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 09:02 PM
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What is modern masculinity vs traditional masculinity?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:37 PM
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So you’re basically attracted to red pill men. Proving the point of the post 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:29 PM
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It can’t be 100% fine when there are financial and life altering repercussions that typically impact the man, as 70-80% of divorces are initiated by women. And I’m sure a lot of people in the 50% divorce population thought they married their best friend, and did not marry them solely due to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:23 PM
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Where does one find such a creature?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:21 PM
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You’re not understanding how desirable you’d be as a handsome, wealthy, relatively young person. Single 30 year old women would be drooling over you. It’s a simple as walking up to someone you find attractive, getting their number, and taking it from there. Or going on dating apps, where you can little filter for your age preference. Attractive men have a plethora of options on dating apps, especially if they can convey the message through their photos that they live a good lifestyle. That’s why…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 04:41 PM
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Yeah, and enrolling in college at 30 is the most efficient way to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 04:18 PM
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Weak excuse, just say you’d rather have a younger woman. A gun isn’t being pointed at your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 01:38 PM
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I’m fortunate to be 6’2 and fit because it’s a fucking zoo out here. I can’t imagine the extra hurdle of not being tall enough to be naturally desired by women. What’s sad is they think 6ft guys are normal. Sure there are tens of millions, but there are hundreds of millions below 6ft. In the United Stated at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:43 PM
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My bad, I thought you said OP was based lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 02:42 PM
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Wouldn’t women who give their box out like it’s candy be easier to sleep with? I don’t understand how you people come to the conclusion of manipulation when there are grown women with low counts, and 18 year old going on 20+ bodies. Does that mean the younger woman in this case is less susceptible to manipulation than an older woman who has more life experience but not as many partners? Your logic is completely flawed and you’re using sexual partners as a gauge for maturity lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 02:32 PM
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Just one of the many double standards men have to live with sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 02:24 PM
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I don’t think you want to be convinced of anything. Your bio literally has a trigger warning. You pretend you want to see the other side but will continuously give out terrible takes. End of the day, you’re not a man, your brain isn’t wired like a man, and you won’t ever understand if you don’t listen to what the majority of men are telling you. Key word is listen (understand) not hear (in one ear and out the other). Some women are able to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:56 PM
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It’s no deeper than not seeing them as a person we’d want our daughter to emulate. You’re adding variables for no apparent reason, it’s just unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:51 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:48 PM
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You look ridiculous rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:48 PM
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Where did you get that information? That young women are also delaying sex in larger numbers than in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 03:24 AM
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He’s working on probabilities. He’s a smart man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 09:53 PM
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A lot actually. Social media has helped men realized they have the short end of the stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 10:18 PM
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Got em.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 10:16 PM
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Women look at late hoe phase men (again majority) as wanting “revenge” and making other women pay for the hurt and lack of sexual attention women showed him in the past. I’d argue this with it being necessary for these men to find out what they like and dislike, while “finding themselves”. You're literally an NPC. Exactly what he called out in his post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 07:12 PM
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Yeah, because he has an absurd amount of value and can. The same way a lot of women prefer older men, he prefers younger women. He can act on it because he’s fucking Leonardo DiCaprio and I believe he doesn’t want kids/family so one lifelong partner probably doesn’t make sense for him. These women know what they’re signing up for, why aren’t we judging them for dating someone 15+ years older than them? You’re just looking for a reason to be mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:08 PM
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Who are these “a lot of people” saying women over 25 are ugly? You completely pulled that out of your ass to justify your shaming of Leo. Sure he could’ve aged better, but it doesn’t matter for the reason I mentioned above. He’s still able to pull any woman he wants really. Try again. Also I thought dad bods were hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:03 PM
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He’s not ugly for his age If men aren’t the most physically attractive, they can still attract women in a multitude of ways
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:57 PM
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A regular looking man can become attractive through other means, such as financially. Most men make more as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 07:20 AM
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Not sure why you're trying to be condescending, but you're making this way more complicated than it has to be while absolutely avoiding almost all of my points to point out basic statistics. Leonardo DiCaprio has been a hot topic as of late. Would it be safe to say that due to his dating history, his next woman is LIKELY to be under 25 years old? Your answer should be yes. CAN his next woman be over 25? Sure, but most evidence points towards her being 25 or younger. It is literally the same conc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 04:06 AM
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Because there are too many options out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 03:35 AM
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“They can’t prove causation” that’s why they ask many questions that can’t allude to the overall objective of the study. And those variables I’m mentioning aren’t all for one study, so no, the subjects probably can’t tell what it’s for. Therefore the results are less likely to be skewed if the person has some sort of agenda against it, like the people in this thread likely do. And just look at any religion, and culture, society, whatever prior to our modern civilization. None of these cultures h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:40 PM
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One, because we’re on Reddit. Two, many studies don’t actually tell the people in the sample what they’re trying to figure out. Third, there are metric or categorical results in which these studies can notice patterns or come to conclusion on. For example, higher divorce rate among people with higher n-counts, or reports of lower marital satisfaction. Once these results are accumulated, then research can be done into why that is. And everyone knows deep down why that is, it’s why OP laid out the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:24 PM
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Well for one, many people think they have a high count but don’t. Saw some evidence of it in this thread. Two, they don’t want to associate themselves with the negative, studied, outcomes of being promiscuous. I mean, if you read these responses you’d think no promiscuous people do anything you mentioned in the posting. We just know that isn’t true, again, based on studies. Unless they’re just all exceptions to the rule which I believe is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 04:20 PM
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These people aren’t going to be truthful. Take it with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 04:16 PM
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The truth set me free
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 05:34 AM
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100%, women always look at the top guys in the dating scene and presume it’s most of them. The ratio of promiscuous men to women would show the promiscuous guys are statistically insignificant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 08:16 PM
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Precisely, and there are way more promiscuous women than men today. Hence why conversations like this are even happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 08:12 PM
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I can’t tell you what they go for, but if I see a feminine man with anyone, it’s always a modern feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:55 PM
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Soy Boys only hope is a super progressive leftist woman
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:50 PM
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I don’t agree. Women have an easier time finding potential partners, and they know this. It’s why they move on so much faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:53 PM
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Anyone can get a couple of dates, or get lucky once in a while. Can most men retain the woman though? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:28 AM
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Coping with a high count probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:55 PM
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A woman can do what she wants. If she doesn’t want a high count though, she will probably not sleep with more than one man a year and will pick a quality guy over a quantity of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:52 PM
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Based. You too friend!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:38 AM
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😂😂 like what’s her point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:36 AM
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They reference, recommend, and cite countless books. Try again please
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:22 AM
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What’s your point? Did you learn anything by yourself? Do you not have content creators you follow? Seems like you’re implying I don’t have a mind of my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:43 PM
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Reaching again. I’ve been watching YouTube videos for a decade and know and recognize clickbait content vs real valuable content.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:22 PM
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Very hard reach. The time I’ve spent on those platforms were valuable to me. Yes, views and subscribers help them get paid, but I am not giving them money from my wallet which is the point. If anything, I’ve made money listening to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:20 PM
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I found the manosphere relatively young and haven’t spent a dime. Free game. Money I usually see the creators received are from older men who are already established and are reinforcing their message via donations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 06:04 PM
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That’s not that bad if you know them or get the vibe they’re sincere. As a man I’ve been in situations where we had sex early on and I come to find out she’s not serious about a relationship. It can happen to us too. Honestly have given up for the time being but good for you and your husband
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:46 PM
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Your husband waited 2-3 weeks or months? And I respect it, but it doesn’t seem like you’re from this modern generation of dating
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:39 PM
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How long do you make them wait and what age do you date
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:08 PM
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No but in general the bar is low for men to women. Be attractive and loyal. Women on the other hand “need” a lot more IN GENERAL.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:08 PM
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You’d be surprised at how many guys will play the long game
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:03 PM
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Not evil, just bad choices for a man with options or brain cells who wants a LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:02 PM
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W
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:01 PM
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Reverse that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:13 PM
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Beyonce also said she bought all that dudes shit and she cheated. So no fucking shit. This rich woman who furnished all her man's shit, she can replace him at any time. Tbe message wasn't all men are disposable. What an awful take. The point is the most iconic line in the song. Do you really think this is what the average woman took from that song? They too think they can replace their man, because they can. Broke, rich, hot, ugly, doesn't matter. Women have the biggest sense of inflated ego I'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:14 PM
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It's so fucked. But the silver lining in these situations is that by that point she's already been imprinted by so many "bad boys" that she doesn't even really *desire* the man who's good for her at that point. She'll settle for him because her time was running out (Irrelevant if she miraculously got her dream man to commit). It sucks for the guy who falls for the bait, but that's life. It'll end in a divorce when he likely can't satisfy her the way the others did outside of financially then she…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:03 PM
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Of course women are possessive too. They want to claim the best man they can possibly get and keep him to herself. Difference is the man is doing the pursing and courting in 90% of the cases. Women for the most part have all of the leverage and power in dating, and know they can replace a man quickly hence why so many are promiscuous today. Beyonce even popularly penned the lyrics "I can have another you in a minute, as a matter fact he'll be here in a minute". Men are disposable for the most pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:48 PM
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If we based that saying off of your husband, and your husband solely; I'm sure what you said might apply. But the exception doesn't make the rule. I myself and many people I know fall in line with the saying after a few drinks. ​ And probably fortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:40 PM
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It's because they know deep down it's raunchy in a bad way. I saw a reddit post about a woman saying she told a guy it was 15 when it was really 45 or something like that. Jaw fucking dropped. Also it's very manipulative. To base the foundation of your relationship on a lie is disgusting, and when or if these men find out the truth I hope they leave her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:37 PM
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This is grade A straw manning. What does religion have to do with anything I said. Please be specific. Is it because I said whoever designed this world has a sense of humor as a joke?? You're reaching hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:31 PM
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Look at Merriam Webster herself! Always isn't meant to be taken literal.. Kinda more like often... Which isn't a lie. "Probably" is a big word. I don't think we can assume they're just making themselves seem more scandalous than they are. After all we have no proof either way, but I'll take their word. I've seen drunk women say some outlandish shit, and we all know people are more truthful when under the influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:28 PM
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You realize the majority of women not caring about body count proves that women generally don't care how people their man has slept with? So I'm not really a hypocrite if she likely won't care. Do you also realize the majority of men caring about body count proves that men generally care about how many people their woman has slept with? Hence why you and other promiscuous women are mad. Just settle for the guy with no options who "doesn't care" because he has no choice but to not care. Whoever d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:24 PM
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My threshold is actually 10 with a standard deviation of 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:17 PM
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You say that, yet they'll lie about their past to seem less promiscuous and get wifed up by these very same dudes. Explain that for me. I always see women say they'll take some of the things they've done to the grave via social media or irl experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:14 PM
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You can just say "I have a low body count so I want a partner with similar values and experiences". Again you don't need to tell peolle what you want by explaining what you don't want. So you just want men to lie to spare your feelings? Got it. ​ If you've been with 20-30 women, you are an idiot if you think you have a right to judge a woman who has been with 20-30 men and I don't care what sexist rhetoric you use to justify it. I love how you add the disclaimer at the end because you know this …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:11 PM
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I actually misread your response, I thought you said I was implying women can't be raped, my apologies. Honestly, if you're an adult man and get raped by a woman, that's pathetic. I said it. This is in terms of penetrating the woman of course. Yeah, a guy can be pressured into having sex when he doesn't want to, but these cases are statistically insignificant and practically never happen. As a man with a penis, it would be hard for a woman to rape me if I wasn't aroused by the situation. Women f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:07 PM
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Make it make sense man. Can't make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:01 PM
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Never said anything about your personality. Referring to women who have a high count. I'm sure you're a wonderful mother, but even you as a low count will never understand a man's perspective. As a woman, you'll naturally take the side of your peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:00 PM
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What tantrum? Typing well thought out responses on my beliefs are tantrums? How did you come to that conclusion? Can you feel my tonality through my keystrokes? And it is a shaming tactic. You're literally trying to belittle me because you have nothing to add to the conversation. Also, I don't think the world needs to do anything, we're fucked as far I as can see. I don't mind having to do less for sex from women occasionally though, it's literally what most guys want. All I'm saying is a lot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:56 PM
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Obviously that's not being accounted for hence why I used the word consent. Good try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:48 PM
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But it has nothing to do with the man being experienced or not. Saying "I don't want a woman with a high count because to me it shows bad decision making" would be ripped to shreds. You said it in the most politically correct way which isn't even the main reason for why men don't want hoes. Yes it can be a reason, but not the reason most men who don't want hoes think It's repulsive to think that 20-30+ other men have literally been inside of their woman, with varying degrees of difficulty/ease. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:46 PM
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There goes the Feminist Shaming Tactics! I swear, when women or femboys have no real rebuttal it's their go to. Way too predictable. Also this is literally a forum dedicated to discussing these topics, but go off queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:38 PM
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I don't understand why this concept is so difficult for them to grasp. Men need to earn consent, women simply give it away. What's more difficult?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:31 PM
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If women were honest about their past and count, this wouldn't be an issue at all. What woman is going to admit to a man she sees potential with that she got railed by strangers on vacation? Or had a threesome with 2 guys in college? I don't care about it being behind closed doors, that says something about your personality and decision making that I wouldn't want influencing and raising my daughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:29 PM
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I don't care who you want to date lmao, what does that have to do with anything? You realize whatever your preference is doesn't account for the general majority of women? Basic statistics. Also, no one said anything about telling anyone anything. Once a man finds out she was/is a hoe, he has every right to not pursue things beyond sex or at all because he doesn't see her fit to be his wife or long term partner. The same way a woman has the right to leave when she finds out he doesn't have a wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:25 PM
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Yes they are. Because if a man doesn’t want to date or wife a woman who had a hoe phase he’s a misogynistic, toxic, controlling, incel, small penis having asshole who hates his mother. What I like to call Feminist Shaming Tactics. Men have never been able to share their preferences in a woman without some kind of pushback or criticism. Yet women in droves are demanding a high earning, tall, handsome, charming, charismatic, kind, ambitious, spontaneous, adventurous, sexual Demi-God and anything e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:08 PM
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Female promiscuity is laughably easy to obtain in comparison to male promiscuity, especially at a young age. There is no balance hence why I think OP mentioned why men with a low count should be expected to wife women who had their hoe phase, which essentially took 0 effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 02:59 PM
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They aren’t vocal. You’d never guess what I thought irl
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:07 AM
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Redpill, I believe in monogamy and marriage for the right woman. The vetting must be thorough before though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:34 AM
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You’re right, but the wall is more of a reality check that she won’t be able to attract and maintain the man she WANTS.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:32 AM
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Feminist shaming tactics. It’s always the man’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:31 AM
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Also forgetting to mentioned that it’s not necessarily 1:1. Women can match with many people. All 100 of those men can match with all 25 of those women. When it comes to dates and sex that’s a different story, but this logic can also apply to a lesser degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:20 AM
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They can match with any number of men, and given this day and age, hook up with more than 25% as well (as a collective). The goal may not be to find one person for everyone on that app.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:16 AM
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The entire historic oppression argument doesn’t do it for me because the majority of promiscuous women have had equal rights their entire lives and have never been oppressed. I don’t think promiscuity is good for anyone who wants a LTR/Marriage, man or woman. Here’s where things diverge though. Being promiscuous as a woman is like stealing from a baby, whereas being promiscuous as a man is closer to robbing a bank. Practically anyone can steal candy from a baby, whereas people who can rob a bank…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:51 AM
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Those are not the standards. The standards are be tall, make a good amount more money than her, be charming, handsome, funny, and good at sex. Most men aren’t abusive as it seems you’re implying. How can the things I mentioned not be adjusted slightly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:36 AM
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And that’s why it’s repulsive for a ltr, simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:14 PM
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Not really. Said it in plain English, I’m sorry you can’t comprehend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:13 PM
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Well, that is their “ideal” man, the one they truly desire. Not the one they have or can get. This isn’t even rhetoric, I’ve seen thousands of women on these platforms, and have interacted with many in real life who fall in line with the belief that they can get their ideal man. It’s why many play the field and casually date. If a girl went on a first date with you or I, it’d take months to get her to commit. If it were Drake, or more realistically a millionaire, tall, fit, and handsome man, she…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:04 PM
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I understand what you’re saying now, but I’d still have to disagree. What rp content creators share with their viewers is that men in the top 20% have the pick of the litter and are the most desired, this is a fact and many studies back it up. The main message within the RP is self improvement. Even if you don’t reach the top 20%, you’re going to become the best version of you which will also increase the quality of your life in terms of health, dating, and finances. Not making the 20% doesn’t m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:21 PM
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Adding unnecessary elements to a hypothetical scenario. Woman moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 07:45 PM
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I’m not taking any sides. I’m acknowledging that’s it’s extremely easy to be promiscuous as a woman, and very difficult to be promiscuous as a man. Men who are promiscuous earned it, women who are promiscuous simply give it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:56 PM
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Men generally CAN’T monkey branch like women can. The average girl can go on tinder and end the day with 500+ likes. The average man would be lucky to get 10. In other words, almost any girl can be a slut, whereas a small percentage of men can be a man whore. Neither are right, but man whores are glossed over because they’re less common than a regular girl who fucks new people constantly because she can. That’s where the phrase 80% of women want the top 20% of men comes from. It’s also why men i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:09 PM
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It makes zero sense because you don’t want to accept the truth. Women control access to sex in consensual situations. If they do not want to have sex, it won’t happen. So with all of that power and leverage, having a high count shows your lack of discipline. It’s like a kid in a candy shop eating everything in sight. It’s gluttonous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:02 PM
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Bro what are you even talking about atp? No one’s saying she has to be a virgin but here’s what I’ll tell you. Men who have recognized the world for what it is do not want girls with a high count relative to her age because it shows she gives it up to anyone and has no problem monkey branching. How could I feel special if 30 other guys fucked my girl? “For less” meaning you fucked other guys on the first date and are now making me wait 2 months. What sense does that make? And this is under the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:58 PM
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Not everyone can be a top 20% man which is what most women find “ideal”. No one wants to be settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:50 PM
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She gave the most intimate thing she could to others for less and he’s supposed to be flattered?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:45 PM
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This is the one double standard that benefits men, we are not the same. Your husband had to gain consent to get his count, women simply have to give permission. Two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:43 PM
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Every single one of you told your spouse you were promiscuous before meeting them and they had 0 feelings about it? You’re all with simps I fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:11 PM
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Because maybe it’s all you can afford. Need to be real with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:47 PM
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Anecdotal. Stats say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:46 PM
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Or she tries to put on a front to get in the “wifey” category. Act less promiscuous to enter a relationship and stop getting pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:45 PM
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Most of the time she settled bro. Divorce rates are a good indicator of that. I’ve seen people with 0 chemistry get married
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:43 PM
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It’s an example. A good portion of redpill men can enter the top 20% because they are striving for it where’s the everyday man content with life is not. People will continuously enter the top 20%, it’s not some fixed club. Also let’s say 80% of rp men equals 1,000,000 men. If those one million men entered the top 20, almost nothing would change because there are hundreds of millions of men outside of the top 20. There are only a couple 10s of million men in the top 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:37 PM
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With quantity comes the opportunity for quality. Also, you could easily lower your standards a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:31 PM
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And what would that be? Tons of options? Even as a transgender.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:06 AM
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Just look up women who have transitioned to men and how they finally see what we’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:18 AM
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Yup, so ultimately the competition remains the same percentage wise for us who are disciplined.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:20 AM
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The normal distribution never fails. Those who are in the gym because they've seen a few motivational tiktoks won't have the discipline to stick through.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:15 AM
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I had this thought too. That my son or sons' generation will have an absurd standard for what is perceived as average. The good thing about this though is that many people aren't disciplined to stick with it, especially with the amount of distractions we have today. So as long as you keep working, you're moving in the right direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:05 AM
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It doesn't really matter as a RP aware man. But, if she's working absurd hours and never has time for me or puts the career first before starting a family, yes it's an issue. Also, in a relationship, women generally keep their money. In other words, a man's money belongs to both of them, but a woman's money belongs to only her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:02 AM
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How many girls did they go through the find their wives? Are they average earners? You already said they've attractive. Sounds like your brothers very well can fall into what the RP tells men to strive for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:58 AM
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I look at it as every man who watches manosphere/rp content does not equate to every man out there. For example, if 80% of redpill believers became the top 20% of men, nothing really changes. It's a small subset of men who put in the work, whereas the normal everyday man (majority) could be content with being average. Of course normal men can reach the top 20%, but they aren't striving for it like rp men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:55 AM
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Why wouldn’t a man try to lockdown a suitable woman? I’m failing to understand your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 09:22 PM
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It seems like you’re talking about experiences more relevant to a generation quite older than I am referring to. And you being married 4 times literally proves my initial argument 😂. Of course I don’t know the details, but things you say click much more now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 08:49 PM
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How did you quantify the men who wanted to marry you, and why didn’t any of them actually do it with you? If you’re married now, I’m asking why the others didn’t or couldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 08:40 PM
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Men lacking masculinity or ones who have no options are the ones who don’t care about a woman’s past. This is not to say a woman can’t have a past, but the details matter. All you have to do is go out regularly and you can see for yourself that women get sex easier, and more frequently than guy. I know way too many men who are virgins are at 23+. The standard and expectation has been raised by women. These women confuse their ability to get sex with their ability to retain a man for herself. Wat…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:58 PM
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It’s definitely more common than you think, but let’s just use the scenario OP posted. Was this really more than a “spat”? He treated her well, did his best, but for a small period of time she couldn’t have his undivided attention. Is that not just selfish? I think women are too disillusioned by the amount of options they have and are more willing to throw a good thing away. When in reality, the majority of their “options” just want to smash.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:49 PM
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You say that but this “animal” tried to crawl right back to that “trap” as women do in real life outside of this example. I’ve had an ex try to come back myself, it’s embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 01:25 PM
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I don’t know how old you are, but women old enough to have been influenced by the likes or Cardi B or Meg the Stallion (born 1992 and beyond) absolutely think they’re prizes, their shit doesn’t stink, and they can be non-traditional women then expect a traditional man. Older women too, but probably less common.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 12:40 AM
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Are you casting presumed judgement upon their character because they chose to go out in Vegas? Kinda sound misogynistic. I’m sure you’ve been drunk on a strip before. Does that make your opinion any less valid? Plus I’m actively outside, it’s a lot of them. Friends can confirm, social media can confirm, state of relationships/dating/divorce numbers can confirm
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 12:28 AM
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Women like that exist everywhere, case closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 12:06 AM
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Yes it’s fine as in you can do it if you want. I’m not trying to limit anyone’s free will with my statements. But any man with self respect isn’t going to take you back is what I’m saying. I don’t care if you were single. You chose to take a break over something insignificant, slept with multiple men, and still thought you could have me back? Men are territorial beings, and even hearing about a woman’s past rubs us the wrong way. And body count is relative to age. It’s obviously more social acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 12:02 AM
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Here you go if you don’t believe me: https://youtu.be/-9YhPd1kpwQ And don’t hit me with some bs about how it’s only them in the video if you even have the courage to watch. You probably won’t because you know I’m right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 11:42 PM
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So by your logic, taking a break is just an excuse to not feel guilty about getting pounded by other guys. And on top of that, after the break the guy is supposed to act like nothing happened? Are you even reading what you’re saying? “You act like fucking other guys is a negative” No shit, what kind of feminist garbage were you fed growing up? It’s the reason most men care about body counts. A high body count is repulsive, and what’s more repulsive is cheating or using a “break” as an excuse to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 11:38 PM
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The term sleeping around doesn’t imply she cheated. Fact of the matter is she was fucking other guys, realized none of them could provide he the stability she had the Zack, and she tried to pathetically crawl back to him. I’m saying fuck that, too bad, you literally tried to replace me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 11:14 PM
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You can make presumptions about me, so I can as well. Equal rights. And you’re riding the fence if you’re not feminist, but that’s for you to recognize, not for me to point out. Good luck love.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 11:12 PM
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Sorry to break it to you but society accounts for the majority of the population. How you or I think is insignificant at the moment. Ask any modern feminist woman if they are the prizes and they will tell you absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 11:08 PM
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There goes the feminist shaming tactics 😂 I’m good love, you’re just mad me and men daily are becoming woke and understanding we deserve better. I wish YOU luck, I’m great.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 11:06 PM
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I don’t know why you aren’t comprehending my question. I said IF he was single still. Also if that were the case, why does society have terms like “women are the prize?”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 10:45 PM
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Exactly, it blows my mind how they can’t put two and two together. Well I’m sure they can, they just have the need to be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 10:42 PM
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Your answer should’ve been “absolutely the fuck not”. You’re telling him to throw his self respect away and take back a woman who tried to replace him and was sleeping around if he could deal with her impatience? I don’t care how much I once loved her, she’s done. Are there men that would take her back? Of course because that’s what society tries to program to think like, this guys are absolute simps. This way of thinking is why some men and most women will never agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 10:40 PM
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You could’ve just said no. And you’d be right. She didn’t appreciate him then, so she deserves no second chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 08:23 PM
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First of all, the story from OP is implied to be fictional, so it should only be taken at face value. There’s no need to add other variables other than what was written unless you’re making an analogy. Secondly, you took the most extreme turn possible. If anything, people try to make their exes look bad as well. They don’t try to “sanitize” the break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 08:21 PM
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And not everyone is believed. Women are generally seen as the victim even if she or both are at fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:15 PM
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I don’t think you understand my question. If the lack of time spent was the only issue due to school, and now that obstacle is out of the way, I’m asking: Do you think Zack should’ve taken her back IF HE WAS SINGLE? Again, assuming everything was fine outside of the time he could allocate to her before he graduated. Can’t say they weren’t a good match if time was the only issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:13 PM
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What you say and how it’s received are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:03 PM
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If Zack was still single after the degree and ran into her at the mall, do you think he should’ve taken her back?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:00 PM
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My response painted him in a good light. He communicates with her daily, send her flowers, helps with her sick mom, takes her out when he’s free, and goes above and beyond for her when he can. How is that not a good man because he doesn’t have a lot of time due to school/work?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:59 PM
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So in 2022, do you think there’s a larger population of women who settle for something they don’t really want because they’re running out of time. Or women who are glad to be single, seemingly for the rest of their lives? Also for the women who’s standard of buying a car is not as wavering, why are they trying to buy a Tesla or Mercedes Benz when they only have money for a Toyota or a Honda. Then when they realize they don’t have enough money for a Tesla, instead of buying a Toyota they choose t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:55 PM
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I’ve addressed your argument with an analogy. That is not a straw man genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:15 PM
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But you didn’t read the story so how would you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:11 PM
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So this Zack guy in the story is comparable to a liar and cheater, got it. Btw hope it works out for y’all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:04 PM
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How am I straw manning when I’ve addressed everything you threw at me? Do you know what that means? And sometimes shit happens in relationships. Just because there’s an inconvenience doesn’t mean you have to end things. Plus this inconvenience (phd) is going to give both of them a better life, so she just isn’t wise. It’s not like she got with him while he was completing his degree, because if that was the case I’d agree that Zack shouldn’t jump into a relationship. What’s crazy is if the shoe w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:01 PM
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Even if it was once or twice a week, he was doing a lot for her that shows he cares. If he was still single after he got his time back, do you think he should’ve taken Jessica back?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:44 PM
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I think we can mutually agree that there are various different degrees of issues. That’s why there are terms such as “first world problems”. Only entitled brats would feel empathy for Jessica, which seems to be a majority of women in the West. If anyone lacks empathy it’s women similar to Jessica. Failing to put herself into Zack’s shoes, but you don’t want to talk about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:36 PM
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Tell me mackenzie, how is a man supposed to make more time when he’s working a full time job and completing a rigorous degree. Enlighten me on where he’d have more time for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:32 PM
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I agree with you. It’s not much so about exes as it is for my cousins, sisters, friends, etc. I feel bad that they think this shit is the normal thing to do. I couldn’t give a shit about my exes, I just threw them in there because it’s another sample I could draw from.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:31 PM
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What is with you women and instant gratification? First off, she isn’t sitting around for a year, like you can clearly read from the post, he’s always in contact with her and when free takes her out. This is far from “waiting for a year”. Secondly, you’re expecting a man who’s trying to complete one of the hardest degrees to improve both of their lives to stop because she wants to cuddle more? Are you delusional? It’s like if I offer you this proposition: Do not consume anything but water for ON…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:28 PM
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I’m emphatic for real issues. I’m not gonna feel bad for someone who can “only” see her man 3 or 4 times a week out of 7. Especially if he’s putting in the amount of effort Zack was. Like I said, go be with a bum if you want all of that attention. And she is an idiot, she couldn’t learn to compromise for a man she clearly wanted, as she tried to get back with him after it was all said and done. Relationships aren’t supposed to be a walk in the park, and so many women fail to understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:22 PM
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She had to lower her expectations and change her “needs”. Constant attention is not necessary to function by the way, but now she gets none of that so how is being alone better than what she had before 😂? Zack would’ve been happy with her too is what you’re failing to see. Women in this subreddit are making me lose brain cells.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:17 PM
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Her needs made her a 30 year old single woman who can’t find a stable relationship. She also tried to get back with the same guy she had locked down. Hope her needs and lack of compromise were worth it. All she had to do was accept less date nights for a couple of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:11 PM
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Did you even read the story? How is Zack emotionally unavailable or neglecting his partner when he communicates with her everyday, sends her flowers, helps with her sick parent, and takes her out when he’s free? It’s not that he didn’t want to spend a lot time with her, he physically couldn’t because he’s a man who has shit going for himself. Women are so self-centered it’s unbelievable. How do you think she’s rational in any sense of the word? All this pHd stuff was a bump in the journey, it wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:08 PM
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How many good men have you dated in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:04 PM
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Traits of being shallow are being self centered, being bad listeners, and betrayal among other relevant factors to this story. Where did I once dream up a story of revenge? If you’re asking why I’m being harsh on this Jessica character it’s because I see idiots like her everyday. Female family members, friends, exes, all think the grass is so much greener on the other side. If you’re dating a scumbag, obviously leave. But I see women leave good men on or above their level all the time because of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:01 PM
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Zack didn’t only choose himself, he was trying to maximize his potential which would ultimately create a higher quality life for him AND her. Women like this think expect relationships to be easy and want instant gratification. So sad you and many women can’t see how dumb this looks on her part.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:28 PM
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Every man who gets dumped for a reason like this ultimately wins. These women are beyond shallow and would make for terrible life partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:24 PM
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Give it time. She could’ve simply had the uncomfortable conversation in trying to teach him how to make her more pleased in bed. To value something like sex to that regard is crazy. But at least your sister isn’t superficial in terms of materialism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:23 PM
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Zack was chasing his purpose and Jessica couldn’t respect him enough to sacrifice a few additional dates or movie nights.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:20 PM
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It’s not that it’s men’s problem, it’s just amazing how women lack self awareness and try to “buy” something that can’t afford. Just because you see other women with your dream man doesn’t mean it’s realistic for you. And you all think you’ll be fine single until you’re 40+ and people stop looking your way for even hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:17 PM
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Because most women feel entitled to a man’s time, this guy in the scenario is a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:15 PM
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Since when do men get sympathy when a breakup occurs? Women can cheat and the man will still get blamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:13 PM
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Context clues bro
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:59 AM
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Hilarious yet you know it’s true. If you say otherwise you live under a rock.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:43 AM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:31 AM
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You’re coping so hard
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:27 AM
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I can’t tell you how many men I’ve known who were blue pill or “innocent” and got their hearts completely obliterated by women. From being led on, cheated on, used for attention or money, ghosted after establishing an emotional connection, etc. If there was a way to quantify it, you’d see how ruthless women are to men before they give up and become the men you’re talking about. And don’t give me the excuse that these women are young and don’t know any better because it happens all the time from …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:23 AM
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Our future mothers
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