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If you believe that you are gonna need an abortion in case of an accidental pregnancy while having sex, then only have sex with people, with whom you are comfortable with having an accidentally conceived baby. Pregnancy is karma or consequence for having sex, so women shouldn't have sex, if they don't want any risk of getting an unwanted pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:51 AM
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Men cannot afford to be as selective as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:31 AM
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Maslow Heirarchy is fake and debunked.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:29 AM
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Crying about abortion bans is pathetic. Be more responsible regarding who you have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:28 AM
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Male orgasms are of vastly inferior quality and obviously don't offer the psychological effects as actual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:25 AM
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But functional societies have existed where they didn't, like the good ol 1950s. It's not something without which society cannot function, i.e. it's not a basic need for existence of a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:20 AM
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If it's not a fundamental need then there shouldn't be a problem regarding abortion bans.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:17 AM
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Even after the industrial revolution, it took WW2 for women having jobs outside the home to be a norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:35 AM
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If the majority of men in society are incels, then they have no women in their lives which they care about. AI can replace the service sector jobs which employ most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:19 AM
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Is Earth even worth saving without humanity in it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:03 AM
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Middle class started to exist as a concept only when mating competition wasn't left unchecked and people also had enough surplus to think beyond their basic needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:02 AM
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It is effectively polygamy, just polygamy through time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:00 AM
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They would have to date men if they aren't financially independent or if there are no jobs available for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:58 AM
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You say this as if men in third world Islamic countries or countries where sharia is enforced don't have daughters. In Iran itself, tons of men have daughters. Men also have sons besides daughters and a father would obviously feel more connected to his sons that daughters. I can ask the same question and swap the genders, what do you think about mothers with sons ? There are still countries out there where female workforce participation is very low, in single digit percentiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:56 AM
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Why do you think women are disproportionately being affected in comparison ? Maybe it's an equal trade off ? Why do you think that men being affected is more justified than women being affected ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:52 AM
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In some societies, sex is associated with mostly pleasure, in some societies, sex is associated with mostly reproduction. Both suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:13 AM
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India and China finally have some competition.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/24 06:03 AM
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Why not fight against the bullshits of feminism, liberalism and leftism instead of opting out ? Seems cowardly. Tradcucks believe that the world was a better place for men in the 20th century in some ways.
/r/MensRights23/03/24 06:02 AM
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Threaten Treason and siding with the enemy ?
/r/MensRights21/03/24 04:37 AM
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That's why those left out women are going gay
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 05:14 PM
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"Women's and men's sexualities are not the same." And that sucks. If only there was a way to fix the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:40 AM
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But sperm donations are wrong too. Just because sperms are cheap and easy, doesn't mean the child will not be affected by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:22 AM
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Actually it was theoretically legal until recently, now the govt outlawed these things as foreigners were coming to use cheap surrogacy services and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:12 AM
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And that's why you should reproduce only with people who are "nice". Rights are entitlements and don't get compromised just because someone has bad nature. No court would compromise a mother's right to her children just because she has multiple affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:15 AM
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Where are you from ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:07 AM
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Just because they are gay does not entitle them to have children who will never ever meet their biological father or know his family. You should not be able to sign away your responsibilities towards the child without the child's consent, which is basically never. The child still has 50% of the genes of his father no matter how much the mother earns and not everything can be purchased. The father is entitled to know it even if she does not tell him. No matter how much gay the mother is, genes wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:05 AM
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Force the parents to be connected to the child even before the child becomes an adult. You should not be allowed to sign away your parental responsibilities under the guise of sperm donations. Surrogacies are already hard to find, the mother decides who she will get pregnant for and way expensive to be an apt comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:01 AM
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And making incest illegal is also eugenics, but acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:59 PM
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India. India is one such nation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:58 PM
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Outlaw sperm donations for single parenting/surrogacy ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:57 PM
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Women's greater financial independence, dating apps, women would rather stay single than settle, the ability to provide losing it's value, achievements becoming harder and harder to obtain.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:53 AM
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Prostate problems do result in bladder problems. I am suffering from high bathroom frequency because of enlarged prostate. There are men who couldn't grow taller in their teens because of reasons unrelated to genetics. A man who is below 5'10 is not tall at all. Not all men have significant achievements. Men's aesthetic choices such as fashion are boring and you cannot even use makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:49 AM
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It's the most common basis in patriarchal third world countries. A successful guy can easily get a poor class woman as his wife even if he is not good looking at all. Well, there are no such options besides insanely expensive surrogacy with limited options in western countries. Even if a guy is not himself very successful here, then he can easily utilize his ancestral wealth to get married to a poor class woman, so that at least he can continue his bloodline. My own parents have this dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:03 AM
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Well, men need women to start families.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:27 AM
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What is a telationship ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:26 AM
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Why not punish the women for having reckless sex without thinking about consequences ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:47 PM
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That's what I was expecting. Such relationships are stable only when the children are out of question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:48 PM
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Equality is meaningless without things being fungible or replaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:12 AM
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No children, am I right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:10 AM
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My question is why we should ? (Now don't use the bs enlightenment argument). People are different hence they should be treated differently. Men and women are not fungible or replaceable with each other. All such policies are not justified because equality does not make sense if one cannot replace the other. Yes, Ethnic and racial equality makes much more sense because of this reason. When both can replace each other with no difference is the day we think about equality. Equality without the abi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:44 AM
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Communism is that devouring mother which will engulf her children in the name of protecting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:32 AM
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Same thing in Asian societies as well. Just replace white. That's something which benefits all, not exclusive to men, at the expense of all taxpayers. Policies aimed at Women, exclusively benefit women, at the expenses of all taxpayers, with some trans inclusion perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:30 AM
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They are still under same banner and intersectionalism. Great, when women more in numbers, policies to favour them, are justified, when men more in numbers, policies to favour women, are also justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:24 AM
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Laws to protect women, which give them way way too much power (by assuming guilt) and are one sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:22 AM
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So that means, political, personal and professional, no division between these three now ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:20 AM
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Men are easier to date because of their low expectations ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 01:10 PM
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Except that women can still start families without men and society still exist with a very bad male to female sex ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 01:08 PM
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Perhaps but fapping leads to weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 11:41 PM
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Men who have generational wealth are very hypergamous. Men were hypergamous back in the Feudal Times. When the most rewarding reproductive strategy is to have as many kids as possible then men lose their hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:11 PM
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Yeah, the fertility rates are going down too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 07:25 AM
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Women can get companionship from other women easily too. A want is not a need, a need has significantly more power than a want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 08:16 AM
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Option 1 also ignores the fact that even after you have controlled your sex drive, women are still needed for reproduction and single independent father Isn't gonna be a reality anytime soon. Option 1 is not sustainable until and unless babies could be created in labs or humans develop life extension technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:37 AM
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Great, that means the SJWs, and govt policies should be on the side of men, now ? Because they are the underdogs because of low biological value ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:24 AM
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If men sexualize you so much perhaps it is you who don't have much else to offer that they would stick around ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 04:29 AM
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Yeah, that's the unfortunate reality. You cannot really compensate for your being less physically desirable with much more effort into the gender role. Since women now have to work too, they want a man much much larger or good looking than them. Since, they have their own money, having money is no longer a great appeal. The submissive/dominant was earlier compensated by gender roles, now it's about physical attributes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 09:28 PM
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Good thing that schools and colleges are largely becoming irrelevant, so when women totally outcompete men in schools, it wouldn't matter in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 09:25 PM
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Royally fuck the "PoLiTe" society. That's one of the main point of RP, to shatter the myth that there is an actual polite society, it only looks polite on the surface, almost everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 09:22 PM
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Not so much if we are also counting social and cultural capital as wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:37 PM
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(1) Lauren is hottie (2) Lauren is nearly as tall as Besoz. (3) Besoz is short. (4) Besoz already had kids with his ex wife. (5) Not all men want to fuck around, some prefer women of quality like Lauren over quantity of young women in 20s. (6) Marriage with Lauren would help him preserve generational wealth. (7) Yes, successful men can also indulge in hypergamy, marrying a woman above your own looks is kinda like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:35 PM
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No, at it's core, TRP was never ever about sex It was about a mass male awakening from socio cultural brainwashing. It was about exposing the below the surface phenomenon to men and open their third eyes or something about how they view society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:58 PM
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The Red Pill is dying because influencers are turning Red Pilled people towards other Pills (BlackPill, ChristPill, WhitePill, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 12:57 PM
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If all women are Bi, then that means they are hetero by choice ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:46 PM
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And that sucks. Our goal (as equality advocates) is to change that right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:31 PM
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Their behavior doesn't resemble men and women, because men and women have pregnancy expectations and reproductive dependence upon women involved in their dynamics. In a female female dynamic, the other woman won't make you pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:30 PM
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Oh, nearly all women are bi, isn't that somewhat homophobic ? Are you a woman yourself ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:23 PM
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Not true at all, at all. Earlier women needed men's protection, in a lot of ways. From the environment, animals, other men, etc They also needed men to provide for them, because there was nothing besides sex, which they could actually offer and gain significant amounts of resources. Then they needed men's superior physical strength to do the physically hard labour, it was also highly valuable even in industrialization. Now, guns and the state have replaced men when it comes to protection and sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:50 AM
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Winners stand alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:40 AM
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Power dynamics between men and women are obviously different because of men's greater reproductive dependence upon women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:36 AM
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So, are you claiming that there are different biological drives for gay sex vs straight sex ? Drive for pleasure vs drive for procreation ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:34 AM
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That's like saying not every man is physically able bodied or well earning.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 09:34 AM
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Yeah and men are tired of their unhappy lives and want things to change in whatever way possible, that's why so much political crisis in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 10:06 PM
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Such countries deserve to lose and if I was a part of such a country then treason would be justified. You know about a country called Vietnam ? Women were truly equal participants in the Vietnam War, unlike War in Ukraine. Russia treats men better than Ukraine.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 10:03 PM
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Totally Giga Chad based opinion. People cannot have Rights without the associated Responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 09:56 PM
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What makes you think these low tier people won't unite and rebel ? To overthrow the current status quo and decrease polygamy as well as hypergamy ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 09:51 PM
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And nothing wrong with being one. This manchild needs a Womanmommy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 09:45 PM
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We call them "paying guests" in India.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 04:34 PM
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Or.....women can be a 24x7 stay at home housewives, like it's in most parts of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 04:01 PM
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I would not. I would be either in a hostel type accommodation for adults where we pay other people to cook for us or daily food from outside. In that accommodation, you also pay them to clean the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 04:00 PM
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Relationships where no children are involved ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:59 PM
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The best argument is that society protects women just for inherently being women, even if men are inherently more violent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/23 11:29 AM
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Yes, but that still doesn't mean 1% of genetic difference is insignificant because 3% of genetic differences still resulted in different species.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 04:48 PM
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Great. Now expand that view of what people are entitled to, into the state and public relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 09:17 AM
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Those dudes could have a lot of money in their bank, you cannot tell. Also, those dudes might be quite tall in the first place too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 09:15 AM
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The only difference between a species and a subspecies, is the fact that members of a species will always have fertile offsprings with each other, but not always between members of two different species. Dogs and wolf hybrids do exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 09:01 AM
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I was opposing your point about human genetic diversity. Being 99% same does not mean difference of 1% is insignificant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:57 AM
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So ? That is happening only with your spouse, not casual sex or premarital sex even.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:55 AM
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You can do it without involving labs or do it in different countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:53 AM
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Even Wolves and Dogs are 97% same. Genetics are like multiplying numbers, it is about combinations, you cannot compare them linearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 04:25 PM
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Sperm donors are having 500 children what do you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 04:23 PM
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Birds probably ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 04:21 PM
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You are forgetting hypergamy in physical traits though. Nerds have a disadvantage in those systems. The physical traits of men are even more valued when women can support themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 04:20 PM
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Except that nobody would like children to be treated how lion cubs are treated by other male lions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 04:17 PM
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Indian Brahmins.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 04:16 PM
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India and Asia have very strict monogamy and marriage systems to control hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 04:15 PM
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Power dynamics have to be in favour of the man, for a heterosexual relationship and marriage to be stable. Even in normal relationships, if the man is way more physically stronger than the woman or has access to more wealth or networks, the power dynamics are indeed in his favour, and that makes nearly every such relationship to be exploitation. Sex tourism by women is also exploitation along similar lines. The only valid reason I see against it, is that it is an unfair competition against the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 04:11 PM
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Laws can be challenged and removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 02:10 AM
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Exploitation of foreign women ? Isn't that the whole point, of power dynamics being in your favor when you are abroad ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 02:10 AM
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That's why most countries want married women to be covered.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 07:22 PM
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Yeah, only men should lower their standards not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:49 AM
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Because..... Hypergamy. Women won't be able to find someone better because they already live in the best country in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:50 AM
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Revolutions do not happen peacefully, so obviously it is a huge threat to their status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:45 AM
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Even the opinion of the average man would matter if they had the conservative institutions in place to do something about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 12:59 AM
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Any way to undo the sexual revolution ? Asking for a friend
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 12:55 AM
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Low self esteem men don't make the cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:20 AM
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Women are biologically privileged because they are the female of the species, there is no denying that. So they don't need to do theas bullshits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:08 AM
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Human Rights without any responsibility were a flawed concept to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 03:29 PM
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Yeah, sucks to be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:31 PM
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It feels bad to not have the power of sex appeal. Unironically, I believe that having a lot of sex appeal is also a type of power fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:43 PM
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Childfree movement is literal death of civilization. South Korea moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:46 PM
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King. Don't settle for less guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:43 PM
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It is going to be a son or an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:21 PM
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You can just have sons and no daughters, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:39 PM
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Redpill to Blackpill to ReactionaryTrad pipeline.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:38 PM
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There are societies out there where women don't get to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:37 PM
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Educated women can be housewives
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:36 PM
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There can be no other category of women in your life. You can be a man without a mother, daughter or sister. Like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:36 PM
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There is the r worded act which gets women pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:34 PM
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It is a son or an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:33 PM
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Nobody has any empathy for young men in society, when these men get older, they won't have any empathy for anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:17 AM
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All my life, either the uneducated women in our family did the housework or we had female servants to do it. I see it as an insult to my insanely hard education and level of intelligence, if I were made to do housework, I would rather do some overtime work and then use that money to pay for these services. Men pulling their weight could also be in the form of working overtime and outsourcing these services to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:29 PM
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No HR is going to penalize that stay at home parent for being bad at their work unlike in an office job.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:24 PM
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No, it gets a pass because women produced their children so they are kinda the owners of those lives, according to the societal subconscious.
/r/MensRights19/02/23 06:46 PM
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Source ? So that I can spread it.
/r/MensRights19/02/23 06:44 PM
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The problem lies with career Betty and the concept of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 07:00 AM
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Both the current classrooms as well as boardrooms are not necessary for the existence of society or civilization. Society can radically change the nature of classrooms and the economy to accommodate the changing gender power dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 05:00 AM
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Reject the Dating market. Embrace the Arranged marriage market. If women don't want to deal with men, they then can also choose not to go to work or participate in the economy either. Society can easily function if just one sex did the work and the other looked after the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 04:57 AM
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Because it destroys the notions of equality and that you just need to be a nice guy. It also brings attention to a bological essentialist worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 08:13 AM
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Gay dudes do not behave like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 06:51 AM
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If there is fear of HR getting involved then either pursue ex coworkers or have backup jobs or simply have the HR as your buddy or something. Even better idea, have something against the HR himself/herself so that they don't have enough guts to pursue action against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 05:38 AM
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As a guy, you should have enough networks and assets to NOT care about social acceptance. Social acceptance is something for those who are either just born or don't have assets and networks or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 05:36 AM
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The system is stacked against young men getting success with women. It's the older men and the elites which want to intentionally make it harder for young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 05:32 AM
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Throuples have also been increasing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:38 PM
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Adoption can never replace blood related children and should not be seen as something equivalent. Passing on your genes or bloodlines or lineages, never happens through adoption and someone must have abandoned the children for you to adopt them. Tackle the issue of child abandonment if you want to decrease the number of orphans in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 10:51 PM
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Why would she choose you when she could have gone for a sperm donor or the single motherhood path ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:56 PM
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Men do need women to have children. Women just need frozen sperms
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 01:49 PM
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Or have some street power and threaten people with dire consequences.
/r/MensRights21/01/23 10:41 PM
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That's only true for the western world, not the rest of the human societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 09:32 PM
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Assumes that the women of the invasive country are not complicit in supporting the war effort. On the verge of literal genocide, with nowhere to go, there have been societies where a significant number of women fought. Women did fought in Vietnam. Nazis did not spare women. Allowing women to leave is actually even worse, because they will start families in other countries if the war drags on longer and the defending country wouldn't be able to rebuild itself. Assumes that women are above Tribali…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 09:31 PM
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People at least mention the name of the sub or something without posting a link.
/r/AntiFeminists21/01/23 05:25 PM
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Source.
/r/AntiFeminists21/01/23 04:57 PM
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No, the value of wombs and eggs is much much more compared to the value of sperms.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:38 PM
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Unions are often illegal, have restrictions and cracked down upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:14 AM
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No, as an Indian man, I totally disagree that men are Individualistic at heart or cannot act collectively. Such a statement is laughable in South Asia itself. Men in South Asia are extremely collectivistic and capable of acting together.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:56 AM
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Women were literally allowed to flee Ukraine while men were forced to stay and fight. Women of Vietnam fought in the battle, they didn't leave for refugee in some other country. Both sexes being forced to stay and fight would be true equality as well as better for Ukraine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:55 AM
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Men are already oppressed by Nature, because it is they who have to compete for the opposite sex, not vice versa. Men are much more disposable in society and the value of their lives is far less.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:53 AM
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No, those jobs offer protection and privileges to the person doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:51 AM
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Yeah, it would be incredibly lonely and isolating, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:49 AM
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Well, there have been examples where large groups of women have lynched rapists or something similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:49 AM
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Nah, the whole world would be a High Tech version of Afghanistan, not Afghanistan. Education, technology and knowledge will still be retained.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:47 AM
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Others can have their own countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 01:56 AM
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Nah, American women have to work harder in their economy compared to others. Man working more and women working less are not a possible dynamic, either she works a lot too, or she does not work at all. Women want independence, so they would prefer to work a lot rather than not work at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 12:59 AM
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Doesn't matter, college and universities in themselves are way too influential in our times than they should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 12:57 AM
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I am 23/24 but will to date a 10 year older lady, if she is very fit and agrees to have one or two children. I believe that, since women live longer than men, it's somewhat justified to get paired up with an older but sporty lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 09:25 PM
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Yeah, because intelligent and high IQ individuals are also 0 01% of all people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 09:23 PM
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Btw, being bi, how does it compares when being with women to being with men ? I believe your preferences are radically different when it comes to women as compared to men, right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 08:17 PM
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Perhaps everything would be much easier for the average man if the world could go back to the 1950s ? You see where I am going ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 08:13 PM
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There is something called intelligence and IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 08:05 PM
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Polygamy is also present in Apes, is that because of slavery too ? Single mothers probably didn't survive in the wild, unless given the protection of society. It's not slavery if you cannot survive alone in the wild and other guys aren't better options either and are more likely to kill your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:06 PM
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It's justified when the woman was expected to produce children and look after them. Mother Nature itself is misandric, Tradcon values are still a huge upgrade to Feminist values.
/r/MensRights19/01/23 01:27 PM
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But you wouldn't have to work outside and could commit yourself to domestic duties only, if there was a man willing to enter such an arrangement, no ? Like, even if the man doesn't contribute much to household duties and the expectations around that are less even, he could still make up for that, by doing overtime on job or something and bringing in more money for the household ? Perhaps, at this point in your life, such men go for younger women ? At 43, you probably haven't undergone menopause,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:07 PM
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Have enough power to threaten the litigator with dire consequences if she doesn't take those fake allegations back.
/r/MensRights19/01/23 01:36 AM
1

Prehistory then. Patriarchy probably didn't exist before agricultural civilization and Polygamy was still rampant among late stage hunter gatherers. Women were still happier in harems compared to whatever was outside and didn't try to escape them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:34 AM
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If you are that much dependent upon antidepressants just for mere bare functioning then your body is trying to tell you something which you are ignoring and/or suppressing. Anti depressants are called as the painkiller equivalents for mental pain, while painkillers are for physical pain. Nobody in their right mind would think that continously taking antidepressants or painkillers or even antibiotics for a very very long time wouldn't have any chronic effects on their own health.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:55 AM
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Women would rather share a HVM than settle. History shows this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:51 AM
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Why it wasn't similar as being with women ? Their expectations and gendered socialization ? How old are you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:50 AM
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Today's women are sharing those high value men with each other, instead of competing with each other. Polygamy doesn't have to be legal for people to have multiple baby mamas and single baby daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:02 PM
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Hvm will simply start having harems and be shared by multiple consumers. Unlike women, a man can easily have children with multiple women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:01 PM
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But why are you assuming monogamy ? Hvm have no problem with polygamy at all or keeping those extra women as side chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:00 PM
1

You don't think that you could have maintained close relationships with some of the men in your past, just outsource the sex thing from outside ? How do you view open relationships and Poly ? Another thing, because of your masculine personality, have you ever thought about going for a more effeminate/feminine man ? Perhaps such a combination would be more suitable for you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 08:58 PM
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Nah, some men do want the traditional set up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:04 PM
1

Who was the perpetrator ? Was it your own family or some outsider ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:18 PM
1

Not straight territory. Straight sex between men and women involves his peen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:09 PM
1

Omg, you are literally entering gay sex and pegging territory when you talk about prostate simulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:56 PM
1

You mean you suffered from child sex abuse ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:53 PM
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Male orgasms are shitty as fuck, last for a very short period of time, totally centered around the penis and you don't get multiple. They are of way inferior quality compared to women's orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 11:18 AM
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Most of our mental health issues are just a normal reaction to the fucked up modern industrialized world and we are supposed to accept this world and learn to cope using meds, instead of trying to change the world for the better. That's literally what modern psychiatry is built upon, to make people accept and cope with a shitty world using meds instead of making them acknowledging the fault in their current reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 11:11 AM
1

Like ? Do you have children ? Btw why are you on purple pill debate ? Aren't you LGBT ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 11:07 AM
1

Have you thought about or tried managing those chronic diseases through radical changes in what you eat and do for relaxation ? Like going for a radical yoga and meditation journey by taking a break from work for a few years or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 04:27 PM
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It's like saying painkillers allow some people to function, that's why they are good and should be normalized. You shouldn't require anti depressants in the first place, if there is no underlying problem. It's like fixing the symptoms instead of the problem. Fixing the symptoms doesn't make the problem go away. "More people taking antibiotics doesn't mean that more people are down from infections". See how that sounds ? Not to mention, the link between Alzheimers and antidepressants. How about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:40 AM
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Anti depressants are literally one of the worst things one can take.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:50 AM
1

Intelligence is very very hard to have, but is it even attractive ? Literally nobody actually gets turned on by Intelligence, most sapiosexuals are liars.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:26 AM
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Intelligence means good genes in today's society but nerds are still highly unfuckable. Western nerds do have the good genes, but women's instincts still want that hunter gatherer guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:19 AM
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Just like every other society basically ? Why does the Anglo Saxon society finds it repulsive ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:14 AM
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Prostitutes are class traitors to womankind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 10:40 PM
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Women don't deserve to decide the reproductive future of the human race, as the human race also includes men. Women don't deserve to decide the future of men, the collective future of a society and whether some traits/genes deserve to exist or not. They are simply unqualified for it as individuals, because they didn't do anything to earn this power. Women don't get vetted for fitness by society and whether they deserve to pass on their genes or not, unlike men. Men must prove their worth to thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 10:36 PM
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Women aren't entitled to feelings of safety and protection provided by others.
/r/MensRights15/01/23 10:09 PM
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I was talking about special interests, not common interests. Feminism is a special interests group.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 05:27 PM
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But it's something non excludible, in the sense, that you can have sex with someone else, after you had it with someone else previously. Your ability to have sex isn't finite and it doesn't decrease if you fuck 100 people in a month, unlike money, which is finite.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 05:26 PM
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But he would have less money to spare. It is still, using some % of your body by taking your labour value.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 01:15 PM
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Yeah, so the solution is that men also learn to fight and start fighting for their interests ? Is that what you are implying ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 01:08 PM
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They would fuck all of them, what do you mean ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 01:04 PM
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Security and protection, not romance. Women aren't entitled to having higher value of life, just because they produce life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 01:04 PM
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Society has no ways to weed out unfit women and doesn't even think about evaluating the fitness of women. Women still get to live a far better life than men, just because they have the Womb and their reproductive resource is more precious. Unfit women give birth to unfit men and continue the cycle of male suffering. You see that meme of the woman cop fired recently for having sex being spread everywhere ? That literally sums up all the advantages that women have in society. A man of equivalent w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 01:03 PM
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If you believe that the system is rigged them try to change the system, simple as possible. I would advise you to learn more about other societies and cultures, how they work, their social norms and social structures, etc, also try visiting them if you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 10:06 PM
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True, but what are rights anyways ? What makes them legitimate in the first place ? If humanity didn't have them from the start then why are they justified now ? Having children isn't a right either, but nobody questions women when they become irresponsibly pregnant and do decide to keep the baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 09:37 PM
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I am a male raised by a single male and a failing old woman (his mother).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 12:59 PM
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As if they are declining elsewhere too and people are not immigrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 05:02 PM
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Radical change in their worldview about how society works and who is their friends/enemies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 05:00 PM
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No mother figure, mommy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 04:59 PM
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They also used to discipline and guide the children.
/r/MensRights13/01/23 04:45 PM
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Fathers were highly important in traditional societies.
/r/MensRights13/01/23 01:11 PM
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Revolutionaries are not seen as the bad guys, after their revolution becomes successful. Do you see the French Revolutionaries as the bad guys ?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/23 09:06 PM
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Violence has been used to get past Ogres in almost all social movements in history, including Feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/23 08:35 PM
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Not all societies have a dating culture. There are still societies out there in the East who have the system of arranged marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 05:41 PM
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Why don't you look at it this way.... Men need women more for reproduction and child raising than vice versa. This gives women a much higher bargaining power and leverage, when it comes to sex and relationships. This power difference also translates into one sex being forced to take all their chances and the other sex being able to afford to have standards without affecting them in equal proportion.
/r/AllPillDebate09/01/23 12:37 PM
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That's why religions and cultures which cause men to have solidarity and bonding with each other and have an in group bias, will end up dominating.
/r/MensRights09/01/23 12:26 PM
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Modern schooling itself is an abomination and should be changed completely or abolished. There are plenty of male teachers as private tutors in private teaching institutions.
/r/MensRights09/01/23 12:25 PM
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They don't have to earn their opportunities for sex with men, period, it's like something God given and a privilege which they get by birth.
/r/AllPillDebate08/01/23 07:37 PM
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Not to mention women going homo if they cannot find a suitable match.
/r/AllPillDebate08/01/23 07:34 PM
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It's about sexual ad reproductive inequality wrt womankind.
/r/AllPillDebate08/01/23 07:32 PM
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But you eventually expect the world to become better for you or people associated with you in the long run when you do the right thing, so in the end you are supposed to get benefitted by it, just in the super long run. Right and wrong are more about aligning your time preferences with the rest of the society so that it becomes more sustainable.
/r/MensRights18/12/22 02:13 AM
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Hegemonic Genghis Khan Masculinity for the world. Enough with this Self Sacrificing Masculinity.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 11:19 PM
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The right thing is supposed to make your status better. On what basis, is it the right thing, when your society is not better for you, except when it comes to wealth ? Which itself has much more to do with science and technical education than all this bullshit. Else, China wouldn't be a great power It is NOT the greater good if you keep on being treated shitty, by your society. Hell, even Russia is better in some aspects.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 11:18 PM
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That just means it was not the right thing, all along.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 11:01 PM
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Yeah, but I was talking about excluding women, which is a crime, not excluding men which is totally acceptable.
/r/MensRights11/12/22 11:15 PM
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Nah, it is the "gay" factor which pulled them towards you. Having the "gay" card means that they are not threatened by you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 08:38 PM
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Those who don't fight when the time comes, must run.
/r/MensRights09/12/22 07:30 PM
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Isn't it illegal to exclude women from commercial or public spaces ?
/r/MensRights09/12/22 07:25 PM
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Just convert to Islam.
/r/MensRights09/12/22 07:23 PM
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They have turned into "bad men".
/r/MensRights09/12/22 07:23 PM
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And all I am saying is that unattractive/average looking women have starter boyfriends too unlike their male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 01:32 AM
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The problem is that they would rather have wine than spend the money on getting some boytoy or have a partner below their social class. Hypergamy is crazy and women's unwillingness to date down is crazy as well. Like, if men and women, were actually equal, like feminists claim, then these women would be getting mail order husbands, but they don't. I think this probably has to do with women who wanted children, using sperm donor or something instead of requiring an imported wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 11:58 PM
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There are countries where women are forced through the force of law.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 11:45 PM
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There are countries (Iran, Russia, China, etc) where only one side wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 11:42 PM
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Umm....no, women are probably staying single or going homo to satisfy their sexual needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 11:42 PM
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Exclusion of women is not violence towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 11:38 PM
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Religion is gonna return baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 11:33 PM
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Average looking or physically unattractive men don't have those starter girlfriends, they get chicks only after reaching a certain point of achievement, through their intellect or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 11:27 PM
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Only attractive men get those starter girlfriends. Average looking or unattractive men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 11:23 PM
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They merely had to exist to have value in society, but they can still increase their value in society by learning things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 10:29 PM
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Well, we can also do the same you know.
/r/MensRights06/12/22 09:58 PM
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They don't date men of their same age bracket, they either date older men or go homo.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 09:34 PM
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A person's total value in society is the sum of these values and LTR is based upon total value.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 09:34 PM
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But first world no longer needs physical strength, and the world avoids war.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 09:33 PM
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That was only because the economic revolution and feminism liberalism leftism individualism etc etc did not happen in these places yet and women could still not provide much economic value to society, unlike now. Rise of service sector and decline of manufacturing empowered women and dis empowered men. Now, women are leaving those places in mass numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 09:31 PM
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The system is against them, what they can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 09:08 PM
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Giga Chad move : Take the child away with you to another country (away from the mother) where it is much more affordable to raise them. Motherhood is a privilege and it is high time women are made to understand that.
/r/MensRights25/11/22 05:02 PM
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I don't think men should identify with their female ancestors, as the female ancestors don't make a lot of difference ( it is only the male ones who built the things, taught their sons and provided opportunities for their sons), neither is there something special about them unlike male ancestors who had to prove themselves in order to breed. The same can be asked to women, half of their ancestors (male) were better off in the past, but women never identify with their male ancestors.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 02:53 AM
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Sex is still a far stronger distinction than class, and good luck trying to enslave nuclear armed nations with science and technology back again. Sure, white americans can say that and start asking for an ethno state just like tons of other ethno states which exist out there. Whereas things like the Iranian revolution and rise of patriarchal states actually happened. The narrative of Progress is about everyone being better off than in the past, if only some groups are better off, but the others …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 02:50 AM
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Yup, because (1) they don't want the tag of the female of the species (2) The tag of the female of the species comes with privileges which they don't want to acknowledge that they have (3) they want to create a social distinction coupled with the state of being female, so that they can distinguish themselves from the males.
/r/MensRights25/11/22 02:45 AM
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I mean, men in today's societies are having a worse deal when it comes to marriage, etc as compared to their ancestors. Why should we accept this downgrade ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:32 PM
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No, I don't think you should call that status as single. It is like integrating small pieces of being with different people in a time period and still calling it being single, despite the fact, that the only difference is that it involved tons of different people in the same time period, whereas the other case involves one person only over the same time period.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:31 PM
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The system needs to be changed, it is so much different than what our ancestors experienced. It is just an experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:28 PM
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Based. Barbarians will rise again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:27 PM
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Yes, literally no romantic or sexual contact with the opposite sex. Living like a monk.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:24 PM
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Why should we have a worse deal than what our male ancestors enjoyed ? Doesn't sound like progress to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:23 PM
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Why should we have a worse deal than what our male ancestors enjoyed ? Doesn't sound like progress to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:22 PM
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What happened in that case ? Can you elaborate or give a link ? Are you talking about the TERFs ?
/r/MensRights09/11/22 01:30 PM
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It makes sense, female sexuality is quite different and more demisexual, less visual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 01:26 PM
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Just like there is no porn for women, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 01:24 PM
1

Wow. Never say it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 01:22 PM
1

Are you a woman ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:38 PM
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Remove democracy.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/22 11:26 PM
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Everything is not about women. There are significant benefits for men to move away from the status quo, at least to the period between the 50s and 2000s. It is progress that men have lesser benefits in society than their ancestors even if things have improved in other areas ? Whereas everything has improved for women.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/22 11:26 PM
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Juggalos ? You meant Gigolos ? Being marriage material and husband material is not about just fucking, in fact, fucking or sex is not even that much necessary in a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:12 PM
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(1) You have to admit that the costs of all post 9/11 wars were dumped on the younger generations. You have to admit that the costs of old people wellfare is dumped on younger people, and it is being dumped more now, since the society is going to have more old people and less young people. (2) You have to admit that de industrialization and decline of manufacturing in the US and outsourcing of service sector jobs have hurt the economic prospects of men. (3) You have to admit that even if wealth,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 06:27 PM
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You can have sex with a man without getting pregnant, no ? More people also means more workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:10 PM
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Nah, you just have to be decently fit and decently successful. Average looking and young women might.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 02:39 AM
1

Adoption will never be equivalent to your own blood.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 02:37 AM
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Your child will still carry the DNA of the man. His genetic influence will always be there on the child. It is only the legal system which doesn't recognize his rights. A sperm donor is still the biological father and sex still happened just in a laboratory. Imagine if you were a male instead of a female and you wanted a surrogate, lmao. Good look trying to easily have that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:55 AM
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I on the other hand, would almost always want my wife to need me. I don't want to be with a woman who doesn't need me, it may cause me more existential crisis. Your dad is also a man. You think he is an exception ? You think there are no men out there who are like him ? You think he has been great to your mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:53 AM
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You would always need someone to have sex with a man to have a kid. Now that someone may be you, or someone else, and if that sex happens in a laboratory then it is IVF/sperm donor.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:51 AM
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In India, the courts literally force people to look after their old parents and nursing homes is for those without children.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:49 AM
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Depends upon the traditional family. In traditional families, old people have power and prestige over younger people, and they prefer living among their children and grandchildren over randoms in nursing homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:49 AM
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Yes, but the system can either jail them for it or make them pay. Else, it would have to become like China.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:47 AM
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You are just starting your life and you may want to settle down once your career achieves stability. It is not about, what you already have, it is about having more helping hands. Even if you are a multibillionaire one extra person to depend upon is a plus.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:46 AM
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The thing is, Older men still have the option of going after younger, much younger women. Older women don't really have that option.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:34 AM
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You are a woman in 50s and your circle is literally those in their 50s/60s who grew up without the internet. Anyways, why are you on reddit despite being this old lmao ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:32 AM
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No, the benefits of identifying as a non man in society. They don't, MtFs are so much more in numbers compared to FtMs and FtMs have a very high detransition rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:30 AM
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Ivy leagues are literally the height of credential inflation and one of the key reasons behind economic inequality in the USA. Not all smart kids go to Ivy Leagues, some cannot afford it and not all kids at Ivy Leagues are smart, some are Brock Turners. Are you LGBT or something ? What is your relationship with your dad ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:28 AM
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Hey, what if that worthless dude later on becomes very successful ? Why would he then want to look back towards you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:25 AM
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Nursing homes are so much shitty compared to traditional family settings. Anyways, when financial institutions will collapse, so will your nursing homes. A society cannot sustain itself with lots of old people and very few young people. Adopted or sperm donor kids might hate you later on. There are legit kids who hate their moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:24 AM
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But not all human societies have enough liberty that people are free to destroy themselves. Sperm donors are unethical and it should be illegal to bring a child into this world and intentionally deprive it of the biological father.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:21 AM
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Perhaps, but once you have the baby, you have the baby and nobody can reverse it. After children are produced, the guy can easily live alone, as he no longer has to depend upon women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:17 AM
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Duh, of course they keep on insisting that they are women in every sense because they don't want to lose the benefits that come with the woman card. It is still lapping as a man, just like how becoming a femboy is larping as a woman. Everyone wants to become the woman, because it is currently the identity which has the most benefits in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:52 PM
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I personally view them as competitors, as I believe that most women are capable of homosexual relationships because it was evolutionarily selected by the Polygamous environments of the past. Women capable of homosexuality and homosexual relationships had it much easier living in a harem and sharing an Alpha male among them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:50 PM
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Just because people in their 50s don't want to return doesn't mean that people in their 20s feel the same. Indians have more civilizational experience compared to the Americas, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 10:45 AM
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Western men who are older than 40 probably don't feel that way. I would like to claim that men belonging to Gen Z and those still in their 30s definitely feel that things were much better for them back in the old days. Sexual emancipation is enjoyed most by a small number of men, not the average man. Advanced tech civilization can happen even without a lot of participation from women especially average women. Only the highly intelligent women need to be given a pass and that's enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 10:09 AM
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Bisexual women can be used to create a harem and Polygyny has a very strong history in humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:38 AM
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If women aren't going back to shittier times then why the men should accept these shitty times when things were much better back then for their ancestors ? You think only women are capable of changing the world ? You think violence cannot be used to change the world even if a significantly large group of people don't want it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:30 AM
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Yeah, if you believe in mandatory child support then be prepared for mandatory pregnancy too. Having the choice to abort but mandatory child support is having the cake and eating it too. Personally, I am a pro natalist and believe that children are inherently entitled to some parental investment, thus I would rather reduce the choice to abort unless it is absolutely necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 08:41 PM
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That is what marriage used to be like for western countries too, before the sexual revolution, etc took off and this is what things will return to if the laws around marriage are focused on stability and thus saving marriage than preserving liberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 08:35 PM
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I was talking about reproductive and economic cost to the marriage. Love was not always the primary reason to be in a marriage, eros love especially. People married for breeding in the past and social compatibility was the main focus instead of eros love or sexual desire. Assuming that the illegitimate children won't get any inheritance, the consequential costs of men cheating on their wives are still far lower as compared to wives cheating on their husbands because sperms are cheap and abundant…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:05 PM
-2

men cheating does not cost wives anything unless men are forced to pay for their illegitimate children.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:40 PM
-1

Duh, that's because men have no say whether baby will be kept or aborted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:39 PM
1

They would rather do that than fight the system to change it ? Pathetic, just accept something like Islamism at this point.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 01:11 PM
1

Sperms are cheap, which is why insecurity as a guy has way higher chances of having much more severe consequences, as your competitors can very easily cuck you and you won't even find out about it until it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:52 PM
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The female sex is the more privileged sex in nature, hence a social political compensation for the males is quite justified.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 04:36 AM
2

How do you think it happens in case of female homosexuality? Do they behave like gay men or like straight women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:45 PM
2

I think you are not seriously factoring in the physical attractiveness gap in your analysis, I personally believe that if the physical beauty gap between the female and the male is huge and in favour of the male then the woman is definitely going to be sexually crazy at the sight of the naked male body. Just look at how ugly and average looking women behave towards male models. The male in this situation may not want to have sex with or at least commit to her though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:44 PM
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Yup, this is literally why being a straight male may be one of the worst combos of gender and sexuality, no? What is your opinion of bisexual/homosexual women, do they also see other women in the similar manner, as heterosexual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:33 PM
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The separation is very big for the average women as compared to the average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:30 PM
1

Yup, demand and supply problem of sperms and wombs. One man willing to dance very furiously is enough to impregnate a shit ton of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:27 PM
2

Being a starfish is a thing, The peacock has beautiful patterns for a reason. If men are desperate enough to rape or pay for it then they are desperate enough to do all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:25 PM
1

No, not at all. Competition is good only in places where it is not resulting in a zero-sum game, i.e. economics. A rising tide can also result in tsunamis. The number of potential partners available to you and in your generation, are in fact, a zero-sum game, this has been severely amplified by the fact that the fertility rate and population has been severely decreasing since a long time. War can be good for the survivors of the winning side, they get to have access to the losing side's resource…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:43 PM
1

Well, we do test our medicines on them...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:10 AM
1

Men need to understand that they can form a Syndicate to reduce competition, just like how corporations do, instead of competing with each other under the intense free market competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:09 AM
1

Also, this is an international sub, and there are also people from non-western societies here. Mate guarding still exists in many parts of the world and it existed in the western world even in the latter half of the 20th century.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:08 AM
1

That is simply not true, males don't get easy sex (the type of sex which results in children, PIV basically), from females in bonobo societies. You should read the book "The naked bonobo". What bonobos have is that the pre-pubescent males and females get to play with their genitals, after that the only easy access to sex, are same sex encounters where they rub each other's genitals, but more to prevent conflicts rather than seek pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:06 AM
1

Bonobo females are also quite violent in order to exert their dominance over the males.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 09:04 PM
2

Reverse the sexes, the man wants to keep the baby, but the woman does not, she just has to endure 9 months of pregnancy instead of 2 decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 10:27 PM
1

She has tons of options besides him, if she just wanted a baby. Sperms are cheap, abundant and men would even give them for free,
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 10:25 PM
1

She has tons of options besides him if she just wants a baby, sperms are very cheap and abundant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 10:23 PM
2

It is sometimes a zero sum game.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 10:12 PM
1

Which is economically the same thing, because time = money and he could have spent that money on something else or he could have worked less if he did not have to pay that child subsidy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 10:09 PM
2

Nah, it is just another extension of hyper individualism, hyper liberalism and a society so obsessed with liberties and rights, that it has forgotten responsibilities and duties.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 10:07 PM
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It is only fair that both women and men get an equal amount of choice, because both women and men contribute an equal amount of DNA to the child and are equally responsible as parents for the child, after the child is born. Either provide men, with an equal amount of choice, in some way or the other, or decrease their parental responsibilities, at least, to those, which they are legally obliged to. It is personally acceptable to me, that this equal amount of choice, is achieved by reducing the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 10:06 PM
1

Rising female Homosexuality ?
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 02:19 AM
0

But women can still get impregnated by those dudes and end up as single mothers...or they can simply opt for sperm donors instead of dealing with the bs of the dating culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:46 AM
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"Dick is abundant and of low value".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 07:32 AM
0

Or women are having more homosexual relationships ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:29 PM
9

When there are few opportunities for everyone even then women get a large share of those few opportunities through quotas and all that ?
/r/MensRights03/10/22 02:54 AM
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There is no such thing as rights. It is a fictional man made social construct. By rights people usually mean power now, and power is very much real.
/r/MensRights03/10/22 02:52 AM
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Are Gay men emasculated by your logic ? You are still a functionally capable male. Wow didn't know that about Hixler
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:17 PM
1

We were comparing it losing your balls in an injury especially injury inflicted by others, sounds traumatic af. Imagine the damage losing your genitals would do to your self esteem and sense of self. People do consider chopping off someone's pp as equally (if not worse) bad as rape. If course it is definitely worse than anal rape for males, because of our biological hardwiring. I was not comparing it to rape experienced by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:28 PM
1

But why would such a man want you ?? If a man is going monk then he would likely go full monk...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 06:39 AM
1

Bi women literally have the best sex and love lives, no ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 06:34 AM
1

True, but as if you won't have trauma, scars and even body image, identity issues after losing your nuts....there have men who wanted to kill themselves after losing their genitals, I think this is definitely way worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 01:33 AM
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Ambition is not Desire. Ambitions are quite different and the actual force behind achievements. You don't like Buddhism ?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/22 01:31 AM
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Yes because it would be the same deal from my end. I myself mostly have needs not desires.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/22 01:29 AM
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"Desire is the root of evil" Not everyone would feel that being wanted is more justified than being needed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/22 01:27 PM
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I am talking about the future prospects a few decades down the line. We are talking about males who don't really have to go through the process of becoming pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 01:25 PM
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Not everyone supports adoption. If that were the case then there would be no reason for sperm donors or surrogates to exist. Why do you need a sperm donor or surrogate anyways ? Just adopt a kid. Adopted children won't have the similar genetics as you, your partner and your parents, grandparents, etc... Blood related children make many people come closer, in a multi generational environment. Retarded Individualistic societies won't get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 10:44 AM
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If she refuses to join the women's group then she is basically saying that she doesn't want the women's group demographics, achievements, status, potential, etc to increase. Kind of an enemy to fellow women...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 10:41 AM
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Friendship with me is special and comes with special privileges which I am not willing to provide to the members of the opposite because of the gender and sexual dynamics in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 10:38 AM
1

Was Genghis considered to be highly masculine ? Would he still be considered as highly masculine ?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/22 01:08 AM
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You cannot be friends with some group of people when the whole point of the type of friendship you want to have at that time, is to benefit collectively and be more appealing to that particular group of people
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 01:07 AM
1

The victim and his/her future prospects of starting a family ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 01:05 AM
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Not if the entrances were objective and test based (like campus based).....Basically no shady backdoor type recruitment by HRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 09:38 PM
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Yeah, sure, a lot of Tribal societies are poor as well as egalitarian. I would claim that US is quite sexist and rich at the same time. Singapore, Japan, China, etc are Asian conservative societies (conservative therefore kind of sexist) but quite wealthy at the same time. My point is that, after reaching some certain middle income levels, it is the wealth of the elites which grows much more and the economic growth post middle income threshold is mostly the wealth increase of the elites.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 09:36 PM
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Does wealth really matters after a point ? It's all in the rich pockets after a point....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 05:16 PM
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I am just comparing it....losing an organ and fertility is definitely way worse man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 05:15 PM
1

What if they have a brutal breakup halfway in high-school ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 05:14 PM
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Yes, you can have other masculine pursuits to compensate for it... Be an MMA fighter, adventurer or something..
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 05:13 PM
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No, datas and surveys do claim that the female of the species is much is more visually appealing to the general public or.....the general public says something else and finds something else beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 12:58 PM
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Perhaps because she was your girlfriend throughout your school years. I was bitterly rejected in middle school and it significantly destroyed my schooling experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 12:56 PM
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That's because men are visually aroused much more easily. Women also have a special category of literature erotica dedicated to them. There is no male equivalent of literature erotica. There were attempts to create equivalents for women, but women would simply not pay for them when they could easily get the same for free. Most of those services ended up being used by Gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 12:54 PM
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Even if we remove the sex work thing, female aesthetics are much more valued by society as compared to male aesthetics. The Halo effect basically....a presentable looking woman has much more opportunities than an equally presentable man. You are also forgetting that women's lives are much more valued by society because they give birth and they don't need to rely on men to have children, it is they who are the birth givers of the species, and it is they, who get to have the greater choice when it…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 12:51 PM
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In my country we have arranged marriages, so no need to get a girlfriend. There are college years to socialize with women and make friendships with girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 12:44 PM
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What is the need of women friends if no romance/sex is involved ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 12:21 PM
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Why the fuck is it a right for women to be included in each and every thing ? Anyways, there are definitely going to be some female teachers in male only schools, no ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 12:18 PM
1

Well, jail is also single sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 12:17 PM
1

I am pretty sure losing your testicles is way worse than sodomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 12:14 PM
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They also benefit those boys by having no distraction during their development years, so that the boys can devote themselves fully to their studies. Teen love is one of the biggest damaging force towards a young person's career.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 11:52 AM
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Those can be made illegal and society can easily exist without them. Society already existed before those inventions. Women have 1000s types of vibrators and sex toys designed for them, whereas men barely have 1 or 2 types of sex toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 11:50 AM
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Sounds like entitlement... Those male groups are also held to much higher standards and the entry barriers for men to join such groups are also higher, as compared to entry barriers for women to join their own groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 11:48 AM
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What if it is a men's group but is full of men who don't like to have fun....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 11:46 AM
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Sexist and patriarchal societies have higher birthrates though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 11:44 AM
1

Title IX should be removed altogether
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 11:40 AM
5

But same sex schools and colleges are still legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 11:38 AM
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But are they really unfair, when women have the upper hand too, when it comes to using their sex appeal to easily gain resources and opportunities ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 11:36 AM
1

Religious groups ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 11:35 AM
3

Damn, didn't know those details about weinstein...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/22 02:07 AM
1

M. Delhi, India
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 09:58 PM
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They are liberals first...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/22 09:53 PM
1

Adventure ? They find a sense of Adventure and Alone time in it ?
/r/MensRights22/09/22 09:49 PM
1

Eventually can mean anything from 10 years to 200 years. The threat of a harmful AI is still there. Immigrants will cause political tensions just like it is happening in the UK between the Pakistani Immigrants and Indian immigrants. We can prevent the climate crisis by switching to better technology but we would need a larger pool of highly skilled workforce to create technology which doesn't harm the environment. Civilization is fundamentally and inhrently disruptive to the environment, some so…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:41 PM
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No, fewer births than replacement levels should not be acceptable. It would be fucked up to be a young person in a society full of old people and where the burden to look after them comes from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 01:29 PM
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Even Loans are given willingly by that logic, doesn't mean that the creditors should just suck it up if the debtors go bankrupt. People who were homemakers also receive alimony from their parents, that is also unjustified because they willingly chose to become homemakers ? They should require legal acknowledge upon reaching adulthood and a reasonable repayment when the person becomes an adult. Govts can easily start doing this and a legal process can easily exist to transfer the future income of…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 01:26 PM
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We are Reactionaries not Conservatives. Reactionaries are against the System.
/r/MensRights21/09/22 01:01 PM
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Power is a zero sum game man. Rights are about Power.
/r/MensRights21/09/22 01:00 PM
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My aim was to simply increase the incentives for people to have children. Trauma is good. Trauma is the driving force for a significant number of people, it is the matchstick which is required to burn the midnight oil.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 12:13 PM
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No, they should not, ungrateful people wouldn't obviously acknowledge the sacrifices their parents made for them. It is a conflict of interest because adult children would want to claim abusive parents to avoid paying them back. If the kids are getting what the rest of the kids in the society are getting, then things are quite fair. There is a reason why family law and CPS exists in your country, no ? Doesn't the CPS, etc get to decide whether the parents are abusive ? Anyways, in my country, pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 12:12 PM
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You people are wealthy but at cost of your fertility rates being so abysmally low. High skilled Immigration is a huge loss for the home country and results in brain drain from developing countries, thus slowing down their growth and preventing them from becoming developed and wealthy nations. If nearly all countries become developed one day then you won't have any place to import people from. Besides that, people are not just workers they have their own political leanings and value systems. I wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 12:46 AM
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We are not asking them to take care of any random old people, but their own parents themselves, who raised them, spent every dime of their savings on them and even took loans for their college education. In Asian societies such as India, parents spend a lot more on you, as compared to western societies, so it seems quite justified. I am not talking about abusive parents and it is not the children who solely get to decide whether their parents were abusive or not. If the courts didn't find the pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 12:34 AM
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It is still fairness, as the laws are still gender/sex neutral. Let's be honest, besides the case of men assaulting men, the system would very very rarely take those things seriously. Even in case of men assaulting men, nobody gives a fuck about sexual assaults which happen in male prisons. Even if that is true, the power dynamics are still important despite the accusations not making it to courts and resulting in convictions. If you remove the male on male rape statistics, then I seriously doub…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:31 PM
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Giving you more power in the legal system against hostile wahmen is meaningless ? At least it's still far better than the other side. Interests are subjective. Economic interests are only a subset of the larger Darwinian interests and the Republican Party appeals to the Non economic aspects of the Darwinian interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 08:51 PM
1

Yup, this actually justifies the anti abortion movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 08:49 PM
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My point is that pro male policies don't necessarily have to be economically pro male.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 08:21 PM
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Yes, it is. Republican/Conservative politicians and their social policies have been all abbout making it easier for men to have wives, prevent unnecessary divorces and all that. So, it is still benefiting men as a group of people in society, even if it doesn't benefit them financially. They literally wanted to remove the no fault divorce thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 08:21 PM
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Money is not everything. Coochie also matters. I am pretty sure, having a wifey would also significantly increase a man's happiness even if he remains middle class. I am pretty sure there is a dude out there swimming in pussy, who is satisfied about life despite not making the big bucks. I am also pretty sure there is a dude out there who makes good money but is sad because he cannot score any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 08:15 PM
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So fucking what ? If they didn't ask to be born then aren't they free to commit suicide ? Rampant Anti Natalism is so cringe. People should be much more Stoic towards life. Life is a gift and parents gave that gift to their children. We inherit the world from our ancestors and we are indebted to our ancestors to leave behind such a wonderful world for us. There are literally tons and tons of festivals in indigenous and Tribal cultures to honor ancestors for similar reasons. Now, it would eventua…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 08:13 PM
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He changed campus rape laws which made it much harder to have false rape cases (obviously such cases would be against men). He changed the domestic violence definition into a much less manipulative one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 08:10 PM
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By this logic, only women who have given birth should get the benefits of being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 08:09 PM
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If there are Politicians who genuinely have women's and LGBT interests in their minds then same goes for some politicians who have men's interests in their minds. The elites also fight each other, it's not like class warfare is the only kind of warfare happening. There are many types of Tribalism such as Racism and Religion based Tribalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 08:08 PM
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The problem is the existence of these financial policies which allow people to invest money and stil be under the belief that they will have a good retirement even without any children. A society with a large number of old people and few young people will not be able to afford to look after it's old population, no matter how good those retirement policies were. Children should owe financial support to their parents when they get old. Wellfare schemes for old people are an illusion, their value w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 08:06 PM
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If you believe that, Nature is inherently favorable towards the female of the species then some level of patriarchy seems justifiable as a justice and equality measure for the males.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 07:25 AM
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It is obvious that the females are the superior sex in Nature as they get more choice. We are obsessed with how much benefits women get just because they are merely existing. "You wants benefits just because you have a penis ?" "Bitch, you are getting benefits just because of having a Uterus and you don't even plan to ever use it." When Nature decides to get rid of one sex, it will almost always be the male sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 07:12 AM
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A lot of them, do care about men's interests such as Trump. Donald Trump reformed the college rape laws so that men won't be easily accused or rape. Donald Trump also, reformed the domestic violence laws so that "psychological/emotional abuse" won't be used to jail someone instead of actual physical violence. Republicans cared a lot more about men, as compared to Democrats. Do women in power take care of each other ? Why is it different in case of women ? Our problem is not just that men have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 07:10 AM
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The point of existence depend supon what philosophy do you follow. There is obviously some pleasure in suffering for some people if it gives rewards. States should be as powerful and competitive as possible, no point in anything else if they cannot secure resources to divide amongst their citizenry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:57 PM
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If there was no solution to that, then Religion wouldn't have been invented. If there was no way around it, then Revolutions wouldn't happen before Feminism. Competition is not only Individualistic, there has been group competition as well. It may be labeled as Racism by some people. Beta males can work as a group for their overall benefit, just like it happens in Apes, obviously the Alpha males wouldn't care about the group and would obviously be supportive to hypergamy and greater sexual compe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:56 PM
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Iran is an extreme example. I would claim that East Asian levels of Feminism are reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:50 PM
-1

Equality is a false God. Reject it. Become a Neo Reactionary Traditionalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:42 PM
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Equality is not an ideal worth pursuing like the western world does. There are far better ideals which conflict with Equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:42 PM
2

What about emotional support from blood relatives and bio family ?
/r/ExRedPill19/09/22 01:40 PM
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I don't like that terminology, it assumes that quality of life is everything and promotes liberal Individualism. Superpowers and powerful states can still exist despite not having an insanely high quality of life. Progress is a Myth of the Enlightenment and a product of Meliorism, hence no such thing as backwards or forward countrie.,
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:38 PM
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You can have debates on information, theories, axioms and data. Debates on values and principles are useless.
/r/MensRights19/09/22 10:14 AM
3

They already look after housewives and tradwives...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:06 AM
0

Just limit their choices by regulating dating apps and all that. It is ridiculous that the competition is in such a large pond right now, as compared to the guys who live near you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:04 AM
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Create a religion or something once again. Monogamy was created by the beta males.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:03 AM
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It did came to women, you wouldn't disagree with that, right ? Feminism was not an Individualistic movement about only benefiting women who wanted to do efforts to make things better for themselves. It was about benefiting all of the womankind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:03 AM
2

When the violent Revolutions and Civil Wars start happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:01 AM
1

This is literally how things happen in Asia, especially India. Here courts claim that it is immoral to abandon old parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:44 AM
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They can easily achieve that, if they achieve in destruction of the political establishment and laws, policies, etc which made all this possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:43 AM
1

Men can spend more time in the office to compensate for that, women can take up jobs which consume less time. Women should be less career driven than guys and not spend all day in office.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:42 AM
2

How is not falling in Love, ever dangerous ?
/r/ExRedPill19/09/22 07:29 AM
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My brother in Christ, American men being more Liberal AND Egalitarian are the reasons why things are like the way things are I would call, an "In Group", preference, a virtue not a vice. Where is the Will to Power in all of this ? Seems like a bunch of people without any drive, just mindless hedonistic nihilistic existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:10 PM
1

What about those who use sperm donors ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:05 PM
1

She can leave her work to become a full time homemaker, that's on her. Or she can hire a maid to do the housework. The hardworking guy might make more money than the guy willing to share the house chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:01 PM
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I am an Indian and we highly value bloodlines and lineages in India and Asian countries. You can value the shared bloodline of your Clan and Caste without extending it to include the whole Race.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:58 PM
1

Amazon's were definitely a tribe of women and it is well documented that Amazon were inspired from real female Tribes which were observed by the Greeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:57 PM
1

They are not a financial burden if the State forces them to pay you back when you get old.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:56 PM
1

Yes, it is about two individuals only in Western liberal societies, which is the root cause of a lot of social problems such as a fragmented society. They are not just about two individuals in countries like India and other Asian countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:55 PM
1

Life is a gift in itself. If you agree with the above statement then parents don't owe anything for bringing children into the world. (If you don't, you should have the balls to kys) Since, they don't owe anything to their children, for bringing them into this world, the children are indebted to their own parents for looking after them and raising them. This debt must be paid when parents become old. Not looking after your old parents must be dealt in the same way as defaulting on any other debt…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:52 PM
1

But there are also people who don't realize that and have those kids anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:47 PM
1

Just because you won't equally divide housework with your wife doesn't mean you are lazy and entitled. She wouldn't get attached to another guy, "just" because he is hardworking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:46 PM
9

That's because they are most of the journalists and educators. Those who control media and academics, control the society.
/r/MensRights16/09/22 11:05 PM
1

Who decides whether someone is fit to be a parent ? They themselves or the govt ? Does anyone asks women whether they are fit enough to be a parent even if they consider themselves to be ? Is this a form of eugenics ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:02 PM
0

It is not. A society which values Bloodlines is not an Individualistic society. A society which values Bloodlines will not support surrogacy and sperm donations. It is also cruel to intentionally bring children into the world and deny them any access to their biological father/mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:01 PM
1

That's because the climate crisis is being used as an excuse to further nefarious ends, such as economic policies associated with it. Reducing emissions alone will take us a long way towards saving the planet. There is nuclear energy but they would rather support useless renewable. Also, climate alarmism is a problem too, it is way better to invest in better technology rather than cutting down on consumption and going the Greta Thunberg way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:59 PM
2

What about savings ? Investments ? I think the reasons to care about the future decrease if you are a single, childless person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:56 PM
2

Aa if people didn't have kids before the concept of human rights came into existence...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:54 PM
0

That they steal secrets and technology for their country ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:53 PM
1

Sorry, I don't support the concept of adoptions and same sex marriages. Marriage should be a privilege given only to people who can reproduce with each other without involving a third party. Since, I believe that the State should incentivize marriage, it makes no sense to have same sex marriage (not talking about legal unions) as there is no point in legally incentivizing them. (Surrogacy and sperm donations should be outlawed on ethical grounds, unless it is a gestational surrogacy or the donor…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:52 PM
1

The larger collective would have Joint families not Nuclear families. Intergenerational families require one to have grandchildren and grandparents not single childless people. That community of care was almost always related to you by blood, they were distant relatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 07:51 PM
0

What Indians and Asians do. Get married, have children, maintain strong blood relations and family ties. Create social networks using marriage, etc from which you can help each other out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 07:49 PM
1

It's bad for the dudes because nobody would settle for them... It's a horrible fate for what could have been an otherwise beautiful thing, had people settled with the good enough instead of looking for the best and not accepting anything below it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 07:48 PM
1

What if their fertility rates also fall as they become developed countries ? What then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 07:45 PM
0

Yup, have immigrants from countries which are hostile to you like China, what can go wrong ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 07:44 PM
-5

No, they shouldn't be respected. A person with children has more reasons to care about the future than a childless person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 07:44 PM
-1

Marriage is a union of two families not just two individuals. Compromise and get married to the son of your dad's friend if the two families are very very close to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 07:43 PM
4

If other countries also become like this, then from where will you draw in the immigrants ? It is not a long term solution at all. This is a literal brain drain for countries like India as they are losing precious human resources to western countries. This is a literal exploitation of developing countries. More people the merrier. More people means more high skilled labour and more doctors, engineers, scientists, etc. People are a resource not a problem. Human society should almost always try to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:17 AM
5

Individualism will be the bane of a society, as this is what it has lead to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:10 AM
-2

There are other reasons to have a wife besides just having a happy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:08 AM
2

Yes, a lot of Tribes have gone extinct. The Amazons went extinct and a lot of female only or matriarchal societies were conquered by the patriarchal ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:07 AM
11

Individualistic as hell, with no regards to the wellbeing of the larger collective.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:06 AM
7

The country would not lose it's workforce, the labour of housewives and mothers is simply not counted in the formal economic calculations.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:04 AM
3

This has very serious consequences for society in the long run, such as falling birthrates and an aging population.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:03 AM
5

They will end up as single Cat ladies or as highly expensive sex Industry workers or in a Poly relationship with an high value man or in a same sex partnership or wellfare single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:02 AM
0

Why would they oppose it ? They seem to be benefiting from this as individuals, even though it would lead to incest and unstability in the long run. Only men can oppose or change the system, as only men are at the receiving end of the new system, they are worse off, whereas the women are better off (in the short term, not the long term).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 09:59 AM
4

But they would have quotas for women...
/r/MensRights16/09/22 03:13 AM
1

Not true for all cultures, it is not true for South Asian culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 03:12 AM
8

They will all either become single mothers or lesbians. Sperm donors have been normalized to a huge degree.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 11:06 PM
1

You aren't being sarcastic ? I thought wahmen enjoyed the cock carousels and the sexual attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:16 AM
1

People are not an island. Individualism is flawed. Marriage should be a union of two families and communities, to maximize it's networking potential. Marriages have long lasting and wide reaching impact on the whole communities and low fertility rates negatively affect ethnic groups in the long run.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/22 12:02 AM
1

Not a fair argument when men can only appeal to women through Gym, surgery and resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:59 PM
1

We are discussing marriage and why people married back then ? Olden times influence our genetics and biology.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 07:01 PM
2

So why you called yourself a Cow, lmao.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 06:31 PM
1

My claim is that Polygamy would be the natural conclusion, the more sexually liberal and socially free a society becomes, and we all know how Polygamy is highly correlated with unstability and violence in society. You can observe the Islamic countries. Those terrorists are just incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:30 PM
2

Society can easily exist with far fewer men than women but not vice versa. It is about "replace ability", a man is more fungible or replace able compared to women assuming everything else to be the same. Look up on Germaine Greer.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 06:27 PM
1

I like Vishnu and Shiva. I absolutely dislike Shakti Nice, I am also into physics.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 06:23 PM
1

Breeding was the primary purpose for marriage in olden times. If the husband died then the wife would have been married off to his brother.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 06:21 PM
2

Surrogates are insanely expensive as compared to sperm donors. Surrogates are also very hard to find and an average woman is not willing to become a surrogate even for money. Surrogates get to choose whether they want to provide their services to that family or not. They get background checks, etc. It's not like they don't have a choice, whereas sperm donors don't get much choice, after they have donated their sperms to the clinic.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 02:46 PM
-3

That is the point, you are a woman, you don't need a man to have children. There are tons of men willing to give you their sperms for free, even if you cannot find a man you like, you can still end up becoming a single mother. Even if they aren't free, sperm donors offer a lot of choice to you to select from. Undesirable, unlikable, unfit, ugly, broke women can still become mothers, nobody is stopping them. I am a man, I need a Womb haver to have children. I don't get the option of surrogacy wit…
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 02:42 PM
1

No, the levels of Poly allowed varied from culture to culture. Hindu culture allowed minimum Poly compares to Islamic one for example. Yes, but you don't seem to understand that competition is not only at an individual level. There is group level competition too...or basically Tribalism. There is Group selection vs individual level selection. If Individual level selection is totally justified then so Group selection, period and Group includes Casteism, Racism, Nationalism,, etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 12:48 PM
0

Women own the Uterus. Women get to select the sperms and their baby daddy out of so many options. Whereas men get selected, even by surrogates, surrogates enjoy a lot of choice, unlike sperm donors since sperm donors are plenty. Women don't need men for resources, they can earn on their own. Women don't need men for sexual pleasure, they have a lot of sex toys nowadays and are free to indulge in homosexuality and Poly relationships. Poly relationships are more easy and practically possible when …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 12:45 PM
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They are as worthy as men and men are worth less than a fertile woman. We would be settling for them instead, whereas we want a woman to breed with, unlike women who don't need or want a man for reproduction. Women have the option of not depending upon a man to become mothers, they have the choice of single motherhood via sperm donors, which many men don't.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 12:39 PM
1

Maybe, but breeding is a significant reason for men to pair up with women and we aren't getting that with older women easily.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 12:34 PM
5

Single women can still have kids using a sperm donor and often chose to be childless, unlike men.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 12:34 PM
-5

Passing up infertile or women with kids is not unjustified
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 08:22 AM
-8

How are they contradictory ? A fertile healthy woman who doesn't have any kids from other men is almost always have it easy until they lose their fertility or health or have baggage in the form of kids.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 08:20 AM
1

True, I am against female evolutionary success, but on the similar lines, I am against male evolutionary success too, as I am pro monogamy for the elites. Evolutionary success is Anti Species as it requires Humanity to cease to be Humanity, Civilization is a revolt against Nature and Humanity's attempt at evolving their environments to suit them better instead of adapting themselves to the environment. If you want everyone to live decently and comfortably then you essentially means that selectio…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:14 AM
3

As if that power imbalance is unjustified ? Power imbalance among men and women because of access to hard earned resources is quite justified as women already have the upper hand in power when it comes to owning the Wombs. Women already have the sole power to create life, so you must one up that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:17 PM
5

What's best for Individuals vs What's best for community ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:15 PM
3

What about women resorting to sperm donors and homosexual relationships ? The fertility industry is also booming in a lot of countries as more and more women opt for these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:13 PM
1

Large Family. Blood related. Same background of partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 09:25 PM
0

I think "stealing a man" from someone else, especially someone they don't like, boosts the ego of young women. The female sexual hierarchy is based upon who can score better quality of guys and who can score greater number of guys, as it proves who is prettier and more feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 09:20 PM
1

Fuckin based and then you are seen successfull because you get seen as strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 09:12 PM
0

But....what if the guy pursuing her is the biggest caveman in town ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 09:05 PM
1

They are not immoral according to me, it is female entitlement that they should be provided for despite not offering any value to rest of the society in return. If resources were not a constrain to women, at all, as in, they have always have sufficient resources, for all their basic needs, then I bet that only 10 to 20% of the men will be able to attract women. It is Nature's fundamental design that the male and female desire should clash with each other. They are unwilling to do hard jobs and l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 08:59 PM
1

You compared situations where men were very desperate, isolated, dependent upon each other and sexually starved to normal, healthy society where women have plenty of options. Why don't you compare a bunch of isolated male sailors to a bunch of men and women stuck on an isolated island or something ? When women are under similar circumstances, then their standards for whom they find "fuckable" change too. If the repulsion, is not due to a disease or deformity, then the best available male is bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:23 PM
1

Lmao, this is not a good argument at all, since men are not the sex which chooses, they get chosen by those with wombs not vice versa. Women don't need to rely upon men for sperm unlike vice versa. If you won't fuck a woman, then someone else will, the supply of sperms is infinite compared to the demand and even frozen sperms from a sperm bank are a viable option nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:34 PM
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What is the point to argue when there is a fundamental difference in values and principles ? Why should we men not try to be selfish when women are no longer ashamed in being selfish ? It is against my selfish interests and the interests of men, as a whole to oppose your liberal lefty values in my Indian Hindu society and maintain our system of arranged marriages and oppose the introduction of dating culture. If your values and principles are directly opposed to each other, then only brute force…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:29 PM
1

Not to me, this is literally worsening the consequences of inequality in society without fixing the economic inequality first, also, assuming that we should even fix the economic inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:41 AM
0

But we have nuclear weapons in this day and age. The crime is not being anti social, the crime is asking for the same benefits as womankind in society and competing with the elites when it comes to having access to women. If the kings didn't get rid of them, then it would have resulted in him losing his throne to the rival and the rival would almost always promise more benefits to these extra men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 08:07 AM
1

Monogamous was a great deal for the average man. What is gonna happen is that the highly attractive men are going to be polygamous with most of the chicks and others will end up as incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 08:05 AM
1

Yup, the genetics of toxic women are the ones which result in toxic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 08:04 AM
0

Terrible women give birth to terrible men. There is a reason that the genetics of terrible men and incels are still around, they get passed on by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:05 AM
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Men are much more dependent upon women for producing babies and becoming fathers than vice versa. The cost of orgasms and ejaculation is much more for men and becoming a bottom means many health problems if you are crossing lines. Women can easily get sperms and have a lot of choices regarding that, whereas it is the surrogates which exercise choice regarding their client families.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:30 PM
1

But going LGBT has more benefits for women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:25 PM
2

Why would you want him to be gay ? Surrogacy isn't such an easy and viable path.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:21 PM
2

I am a male but I believe in sigma supremacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:20 PM
1

If you are a man, then it is not...a wonderful time to be alive..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:00 PM
0

"More important things" ? What is the point for these to exist if they aren't benefiting you. Woman not needing a man, is a social issue for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:59 PM
1

"More important things" ? What is the point for these to exist if they aren't benefiting you. Woman not needing a man, is a social issue for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:59 PM
1

No, societies which were insanely homophobic did not even have that. Sailors did not exist in Asia (except Southeast Asia), Africa, Americas, etc. Sailors were mostly European. Prisoners are the lowest of the low in society to take as an example. Soldiers are much better example for Gay sex, but they did that to abuse, humiliate and hurt their enemies. Minimal ? Semen is literally the carrier of most of the STDs and human ass was not meant to be used in sexual intercourse, as it lacks self clean…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:33 PM
2

This is why some societies deserve the worst and deserve to be outcompeted by others. Humanity is too immature to be left without any Religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:57 PM
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Except women are still heterosexual and faking whole sexuality is totally different.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:05 PM
3

Return to Religion. Religion was the best men's group and therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:21 AM
1

New Age Religions ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:18 AM
-1

A lot of wahmen say that they would rather die than settle for a life like this. I believe that those who absolutely are uneilling to accept this situation will walk the talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:09 AM
0

The guy can fight feminism, and a push for traditionalism and economic protectionism, in his own country instead of taking this losers way, settling for women below his league. Unlike women, men don't have menopause, so it's quite likely that he will have enough resources, power and control to land himself a wahman, at least by the time he turns 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:07 AM
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Choice is relative. By that logic, women would almost always have much more choice compared to men belonging from the same socio economic background if we equate choice by power. We still punish people for drunk driving because they chose to drink alcohol and drive. A woman like that doesn't have much of a choice, but it also helps them move up in the socio economic ladder, so it's not a total exploitation. This type of dynamic is quite appealing if you just want to have a traditional family and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:55 AM
0

As if other subs are not ? The very foundation for Reddit's existence is to create circle jerk echo chambers.
/r/MensRights12/09/22 06:22 AM
0

I am not assuming that he brings anything else to the table, even though such guys do have other great qualities.
/r/ExRedPill11/09/22 10:56 PM
0

Even before RP, it is has been traditional knowledge that a man with physical strength equivalent to women, doesn't have very strong chances of finding a mate.
/r/ExRedPill11/09/22 03:13 PM
1

A lot of them do, in non western countries. Also, even if they don't explicitly feel, it's somewhat obvious that their instincts would want them to have a partner who can protect them during pregnancy or protect them from other hostile men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:40 AM
2

(1) I am personally a guy a of average height (2) There is no reason to claim that the children won't be taller than him if his growth got constrained because of bad childhood or economic reasons. (3) He may have studied a lot in his schooling years instead of playing and exercising, thus he may have unutilized genetic potential for much more growth. (4) You cannot grow taller later on, unlike growing muscles or growing breasts or growing thicker.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 10:35 PM
1

Because my genes will help their children become more successful and will eventually humanity become a much more successful species ? Also, besides body, face also counts, no ? I do believe that I have an significantly above average face and body frame. There, that is one of the key problems about female attraction, they are still stuck in the hunter gatherer times and their sexual tendencies (whom they are attracted to) wouldn't be suitable for the industrial society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 09:41 PM
1

So, if you are an average height dude like me, but don't have the required genetics to make that much muscle, i.e. you are a STEM nerd like, me, are you bound to be an incel, since you can never make them feel significantly "protected" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 08:38 PM
2

Tall people are not the ones getting admissions at MIT, jobs at NASA, CERN, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 08:26 PM
1

What about intelligence and other traits mister ? Why should a short king be celibate if he literally has a genius level of intelligence or something like that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 08:19 PM
0

I cannot do much about, I am insecure because I have strong reasons to be insecure. You cannot be respected as a man if you don't have physical strength. Short and weak men are literally seen worse than children. I am of average height though, as tall as most women. You cannot be seen as a potential partner if you cannot be superior to most women in physical strength. You cannot expect some white knight to help you either, you have to be on your own and responsible for your own security as a man…
/r/ExRedPill10/09/22 05:05 PM
-1

How will such a workaholic get free time for that ?
/r/ExRedPill10/09/22 07:50 AM
-2

So fricking what, their advice is still right, if you want to be a successful man, just not in terms of purely romantic success. Study like crazy, work like crazy, save and invest like crazy...then one day, when you wake up in your 30s, you would see a totally different guy than you were in your 20s or teens. A guy whose presence radiates power in anyplace. Since male puberty covers a larger window and since men mature late, they actually have much more growth potential, as compared to women, wh…
/r/ExRedPill10/09/22 06:58 AM
0

You would to be a serious underachiever to grind that hard in your 20s and still Not end up, at least as a millionaire in your 30s.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/22 06:54 AM
1

Which is a very very long time, longer than Nuclear Fusion
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 12:27 PM
1

They may not, supply would be fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 09:03 PM
4

The Chinese literally used to wipe out whole families for treason. The fear of their children getting hurt keeps people in check.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 11:58 AM
4

In reality, things would end up like Ukraine situation lol.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 11:57 AM
1

Moving on to other pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 10:30 PM
1

Incompatible with imperial ambitions.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/22 10:18 PM
3

I am a man looking for a woman 😑
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/22 10:07 PM
2

Allowing women to leave simply proved that they value the life of women more.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 10:05 PM
2

Some "heterosexual" guys are also into that...
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/22 04:29 AM
3

I am a man with a tiny frame, so am I bound to be a single virgin despite having great educational credentials and IQ ?
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/22 04:28 AM
1

Swiss Cheese Masculinity ? I only know about Hegemonic Masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 04:23 AM
1

Butch lesbians ? Trans men ? Robots ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 05:28 AM
2

Or one can perform sex selective abortions in order to have only girls. Femals only species exist and it is quite possible to have Female only human societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 04:37 AM
1

You are ignoring the significance of group selection and in group out group competition which was also heavily responsible for ensuring that homo spiens outcompete their other hominid cousins. Sexual selectivity of females is only one way through evolution happened, the other way was through Tribalism, war and stone age genocides.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 04:56 PM
2

That was a huge thing in itself, besides that, the invention of abortion, contraceptives and sex toys meant that women were much less dependent upon men for sexual pleasure and were also free to pursue casual sex for pleasure at the same time. Men were becoming more and more obsolete in the economy and society at the same time, as guns, weapons, etc were becoming more and more advanced and automation came into existence to replace the physical laborers. The centers of power in society also shift…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:05 PM
1

The same sex partner cannot impregnate you though, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:26 AM
1

I would feel worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:25 AM
5

In the past, women used to settle and compromise, so it was much more better for the men in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:22 AM
1

Just like there is no point in debating with Nazis, there is also simply no point in debating with Feminazis.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 08:41 AM
1

As if violence is bad ? It is about the returns on investments of the said violence involved. Disagreed, USA is having the advantage of high quality immigrants which wouldn't exist for any isolated Individualistic society. You can look at China as an example. Duh ? That's literally what I said ? But you also get to the rights of others ? It is nuclear weapons which ensure that not just capitalism. Duh, because Ukraine doesn't give any benefits to men to fight unlike the traditional benefits men …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:08 AM
1

If humans were by nature Individualistic, then we wouldn't have so much Tribalism throughout human history. In fact, it is only western societies which don't have any agricultural past which are Individualistic as hell, even Greco-Romans were quite anti Individualistic, whereas societies in Asia and Africa are the most Collectivistic societies. It also doesn't make any evolutionary sense to be an individualist, group selection or kin selection are very strong effects after all. I am not talking …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 09:28 AM
0

Disagreed. It is not good at all, as nobody cares about the well being of the collective, which ends up shaping the individual and the policies of the State. You cannot be Individualistic in politics or war. It is Capitalism which is somewhat good and Capitalist societies don't always have to be Individualistic. You can look at Singapore, Japan and China as examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:20 PM
2

The black pill seems to control women though, but also men at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:03 PM
-2

No point in such a reply when the whole culture is centered around liberalism and Individualism unlike Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:02 PM
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If you want to promote equality between the sexes then women should live a life without the hoe phase in their youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:01 PM
1

"The naked bonobo".
/r/ExRedPill14/08/22 02:26 AM
1

There are many myths on bonobos, one of them being that they are egalitarian and don't have any hypergamy. The fact is that bonobos display very different behavior when in captivity vs when in the wild.
/r/ExRedPill13/08/22 02:22 AM
1

First world country problems. No sex till marriage or outside of marriage here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:01 AM
3

I am afraid that reddit will ban this sub
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 07:01 AM
2

They also indulge in routine genocides of other Tribes and betas revolting against the alpha, just saying.
/r/ExRedPill07/08/22 06:20 PM
1

True, but biological and evolutionary incentives are stronger for males to pursue females than vice versa. In before, the pair bonding argument. Pair bonding is no longer very useful post industrial revolution as single mothers can also provide for the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 06:49 PM
3

At least in jail
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 06:00 PM
1

Not true, girls flirted with me in high-school but I was too dumb to notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 05:56 PM
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How can you like someone without knowing them and how can you want to know someone without liking them first ? What if someone X may not like someone initially and hence may not want to know them further, but if they were to know about them more, they may start liking them in other ways ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 05:53 PM
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I don't believe high skilled males are the majority in fact they are minority among males. A lot of skills have become obsolete because of artificial intelligence and automation. Robotic strength has made strength of men, obsolete, guns and drones have reduced the value of men as soldiers and guards. Dildos and sex toys have eliminated the need of men as lovers and sperm banks have eliminated the need of men as fathers. True, the inbreeding factor is there, but still, you get my point regarding …
/r/MensRights02/08/22 05:51 PM
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Men may have testicles but sperms are abundant, cheap, plenty and often given away for free. It is your replaceabity which determines your value in society and even one male is sufficient to replace nearly all the males in reproduction with multiple females. Perhaps, but if we use EvoPsych logic then males have more reason to do that, as they face much more sexual competition whereas women can simply share the man with each other in Polygamy.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 05:05 PM
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Society cares much more about Man rape on Woman because Women have the Uterus and incentives to do it are stronger.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 09:48 PM
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Even if she becomes a tradwife out of desperation ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 04:43 PM
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Bisexual 3somes ? Or some type of gang bang ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 04:40 PM
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Modern wars are like a tiny fraction of human existence and are the exception not the norm. No, I believe that women are the naturally superior sex, which is why it is "fair" that patriarchy exists, so as to equalize things between both the sexes. Womankind is the sex privileged by mother Nature, they are the less disposable and replaceable sex. So, to make things fair, it was justified that society benefits men more. Society can function with a lot of women and very few men, but not vice versa …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 12:42 AM
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Start a chain of men only clubs where men can do a large number of things including increasing their fiitness. Wait, it's called religion or something.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 10:15 PM
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The old societies also had extra men or surplus of men and not all men went to war, women were not needed to work outside as plenty of men still remained behind. Also, why are you ignoring the fact that there are tons and tons of private as well as Govt entities and policies which are aimed at helping women succeed in academics and jobs ? Why should we accept this difference as justified and a natural outcome, when we know that your success may not be self made but a result of female quotas ? Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:46 PM
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Not true, TRP is a theory and a place where people having similar beliefs meet. A certain faction associated with TRP promote all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:40 PM
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Do women wield too much power in whether a man will find a partner or not ? You want children or are going childless ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 11:50 AM
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Those women were being provided for by their spouses even if they weren't being paid directly. No country required all able bodied men to serve in the Wars (unlike world wars) simultaneously, also, young and single men used to serve in the Wars, the surplus men basically, were enough most of the time. Other civilizations such as India and China came up with their own solutions to this problem. Porn, gaming, etc are escapism and refuge for young men who cannot deal with the modern world and canno…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:30 AM
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I was just trying to explain why people are right when they say that modernity has lead to much more fierce sexual selection for men (as compared to past) and how a lot of incel genes or let's say, the non 20% of the dudes managed to pass on their genes in the old times (that's why incel genes exist) unlike today, for the people who claim that things were always like this and incels are whining for no reason at all. By incel genes, I mean genes which don't result in you being a top tier hunter g…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:25 AM
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Pregnancy is literally a self changing experience where the person undergoes metamorphosis and men can never literally have any equivalent of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:15 AM
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Sounds like being emotionally dependent upon someone else for your happiness and peace of mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:12 AM
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Not true, adults don't always have to live a self sufficient lifestyle. A lot of them can be inter dependent upon their family members. For example, people in Asia live in Joint families. What you are saying is like hyper independence and hyper individualism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:11 AM
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I guess your parents didn't support you enough that you had to start working that early ? It didn't affect your education ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:08 AM
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200 years is a huge stretch, it can happen in a few decades, even less than a decade if demographics shift very fast in the favour of RWers. Huh, then I wonder how come it happens in other areas of the world. You are ensuring that both the families are on good terms with each other and social compatibility of the marriage is much more emphasized as people marry this way only in their close social networks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:32 AM
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Why do you believe that it will never happen ? Morals are socially constructed anyways 🍻, I support Moral Relativism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:22 AM
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That's because of the laws surrounding it. Bring back the old laws and they may want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 09:47 PM
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If the said ugly men already managed to earn decent amount of resources, then they have already improved themselves. "Work on themselves", nobody can improve their aesthetics like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 09:46 PM
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He should not be allowed by the rest of the society to try to get with other women. Society should be quite strict against infidelity and sex outside of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 09:29 PM
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Balls are a liability, they are a disadvantage. The reason we call having balls as being tough, is because it takes toughness to maintain those balls, whereas the weaker ones get neutered. Privileges, rights, blah blah blah, it is all about describing power and who has it more. I would say that people who are less replaceable have more power as compared to people who are more expendable, thus in free state of nature, women have more power as compared to men, if we assume everything else being eq…
/r/TheRedPill29/07/22 07:54 PM
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She compromises, adjusts and accepts it, just like I will.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:49 PM
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Merely sleeping =/= marriage. It would make it easier for ugly dudes to get married if they have other things going. Hey, if you assume that we are making life of women much more difficult, then you would also have to accept that we would end up making life much more easier for men. Men would easily find partners in their prime, instead of having all of that only much later in life. The average age of marriage will decrease as women will marry men who are closer to them in age, instead of settli…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:22 PM
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And who is the state essentially ? The State is just a manager of lower class men and uses them as labour to do the dirty work, the risky jobs and as a cannon fodder. If all the lower class men unite under a common banner and revolt against the system then there won't be any state to protect you from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:10 PM
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Because it gives them more power in society. In patriarchal societies, the women are forbidden from capitalizing on their beauty, that's why the covered up culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:13 PM
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How about this, we maintain a DNA database and trace the biological fathers of the children and specifically force them to pay for their sire ? If it happens again, forced sterilization. Go the China way. The cuckoldry is that people are paying for children which aren't related to them in any way whatsoever. And if it happens again and again, then it is unfair to people who pay for their own children . Agreed, the women are getting cuckolded too, but these mothers could have lowered their standa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:06 PM
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How about this, we all go back to the good ol days of the 20th century and men get their rightful place back in society ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:50 PM
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The fertility rate is below replacement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:49 PM
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How about this, she becomes a good virgin tradwife just like it happened in the good ol days ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:48 PM
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Men were built for War not Love.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:47 PM
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Why should, dudes who are unable to score girls be forced to pay for the tons of illegitimate sires produced by the few promiscuous males ? Sounds like state sanctioned cuckoldry. Let the Darwinism kick in and people wake up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:46 PM
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To be frank, in the old days, consensual sex was the exception not the norm, that's actually one of the reasons why our ancestors were successful in passing on their genes as compared to today's men, it was because they didn't actually had to deal with natural selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:44 PM
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This is one of the many reasons why so many people aren't happy with the current socio economic order and either want to go back to the good ol patriarchal times (1950s) or want a socialist/communist utopia Imagine if the women participating in the suffrage movement were dealt with an iron hand just like it happens in Islamic countries or if they had to face something like what happened in China to the pro democratic protestors. The truth is that a lot of success and achievements of the women's …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:38 PM
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The Womb and Eggs. Sperms are cheap, abundant and are often given away for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:31 PM
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OOW ? UMC/UC ? Upper middle class and Upper class ? Lower class men can be protectors if the environment is very volatile.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:30 PM
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How though. Elaborate please.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:28 PM
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Sperms are cheap, abundant and given to free. It's like they don't need men for reproduction anyways, so not many incentives for them to be heterosexual. There are also evolutionary reasons for female bisexuality such as making polygamy easier and more young women are self identifying as biisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:14 PM
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They still have the choice of becoming single mothers and indulging in bisexual/homosexual relationships, as they don't rely on men for starting a family, unlike men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:31 PM
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It is not. You can look at Non Western countries to see similar pattern. India ? Pakistan ? Afghanistan ? Japan ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:23 PM
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I just want to restore the Old World where the Men had the privileges.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/22 12:13 PM
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Does it work for you as a homosexual ? You sure that Tinder is working ? Just because it works for dykes/gays/LGBTs doesn't mean it works for everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:05 PM
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Why are you in this sub, as a dyke ? Just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:37 AM
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They don't need drugs to have sex or feel alive ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:45 AM
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Yup, they turn to lesbianism later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 01:28 PM
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Asia exists ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:55 PM
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The unlovable can't breed in a free and equal society, no ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:28 PM
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Sorry, not sorry. I don't support it, there are other alternative possibilities too. Also, one can ask, why not get a sex change instead of becoming homo ? Simple solution ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:43 PM
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No, people became more free and it didn't result in better choices as we can all see in the consumer world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:40 PM
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Likewise there is a huge demand to have quotas for women on boards of successful companies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:35 PM
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It worked in Germany of the 20th century.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:35 PM
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Men rely upon women to breed, so it is quite fair that women also rely upon men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:33 PM
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Those were better times for men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:30 PM
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No, people would rather breed than be loved if they cannot both.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:06 PM
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Basically India and China ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:02 PM
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Sure, but never women of your same age. Older women friends can actually be great, by older I am talking about a 10 year gap or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 10:59 PM
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What about celibate men who haven't done any kind of sexual activities for years ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 10:56 PM
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Revolt against the modern world. Organize. Find like minded people. Rebel and destroy the elites and the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:40 PM
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Society didn't deny poor people money, they couldn't obtain it. You know how that sounds ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:39 PM
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Why not try to reform your country instead of leaving it ? Do the LGBT, feminist and other activists immigrate from third world countries into first world countries or they try to implement change inside their countries ? Just like some people want to go forward, some people want to go back to the good old days.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:37 PM
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It's probably high-school or teenage love. No dude would probably be like that for any other type of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:15 PM
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Not true, it won't be same for others. You are only competing with other men when you are approaching a straight woman. You are competing with both the sexes when you are approaching a bisexual woman. You literally cannot even try to compete or replace with what the same sex has to offer, as a member of the opposite sex. There are literally, both women and men, competing for women, in the bachelorette, love island, etc type of franchises. There were also cases, of bachelor's vietnam and australi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:13 PM
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The high reward is when you trap a higher status guy. The wives of powerful people were not always from good backgrounds. Having more options and ease of access is also high reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:07 PM
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It's as real as men hating their own gender. Internalized misogyny is women realizing the flaws of Feminism and their own inherent biological advantages in most of the cases, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:50 PM
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It is my anecdotal experience on their spaces, such as websites, blogs, books, sub, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:21 PM
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It's fake. It's the female equivalent of being a male feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 11:14 AM
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On the contrary, feminists claim that wlw relationships are much easier because no pregnancy, gender roles and because the same sex people understand each other more easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 11:06 AM
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No, feminists claim that wlw relationships are much easier because no pregnancy, gender roles and because the same sex people understand each other more easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 11:06 AM
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The risk is worth it. Dating life for women is a high risk high reward thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 11:04 AM
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Were those lesbians or Bisexual women, just like you ? Do you plan to try dating men once again in the future ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 11:02 AM
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Men need women much more than women need men so that's one of the reasons why the guys need to make much more efforts and dating men is way easier than dating women. Most male orgasms from the dick are not very pleasurable. They are short, non repetitive, centered around the dick and have a refractory period. BTW, isn't dating Bi people much more difficult because you would now face double the competition and have to compete with the opposite sex at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:58 AM
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I think that's only for women who have a huge huge difference in physical attractiveness as compared to those males. Men are more visual creatures compared to women. Women are less visual creatures and also care about things like Male voice which we don't really give much fucks about. They have huge crushes on singers nit just because they are popular and rich but also because they genuinely are attracted to good and deep male voice. I also don't think it's something which is unhealthy, for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:21 AM
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It is a totally flawed comparison because the nature of female sexuality in itself is very very different from male sexuality. Males also have very low cost to have sex with someone compared to women. They lust after women and want to have sex with as many of them to spread their seeds. Basic R/K selection. Tbh, normal, healthy female sexuality would not seem very different from those women who identify as Aces/Aros. Men simply lust after women who they think can have an easier time in pregnancy…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:29 AM
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Asian societies choose stability over freedom, which is why they are still not Individualistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:12 PM
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Yup, female biology isn't really designed to appreciate that, so perhaps the situation should have been reversed and you should have been the stay at home parent ? I don't think a lot of other people also make any significant connections outside of their own relationships either. They have family and distant blood relations for needs which cannot be fulfilled by their spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:51 PM
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I believe that children are already indebted to their ancestors because of what they achieved before them and the kind of world they built for them. So it's not unreasonable that children are indebted to their parents in this manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:48 PM
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Eventually is a very strong word for a species which barely explored space and still cannot have clean sources of energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:45 PM
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So, you divorced because you guys had to travel away from each other, very often ? Sounds like something which won't be a problem in a single income household and a society where most of the women can easily become tradwives and stay at home mothers. The problem is that it's simply impossible to have that lifestyle in Western countries right now, because of financial institutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:43 PM
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You exist on different sides of the political spectrum, mostly because of your upbringing and environment. I don't think it had a significant genetic component in this case. Psychology is a scam and a lot of Psychology institutions are ideologically motivated to promote independent, liberal and Individualistic culture among the masses, as it benefits the financial institutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:42 PM
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When I was talking crisis, I was talking about Adult children helping you out. Yes, I know that western societies are strongly Individualistic, which is actually a recent development and wasn't something which existed way back in the middle ages. I am strongly against individualism and I don't think it's overall better than Asian collectivism. Well, that's one of the key problems, if everyone believes that they have only one life to live then nobody would reproduce and there won't be any more ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:37 PM
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As in ? Explain ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:23 PM
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It is rarely the first option. Why does such a big fertility industry thrives if adoption is a legit good option ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:21 PM
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What if that gets canceled or reduced ? Do you seriously trust the system enough ? The world has gone through a pandemic and a lot of crisis in the past. What if the next crisis is an economic crisis and crumbles all the financial institutions ? I see children as an investment, just like all the other Asians. Hell, even our own Govts see children as an investment. You invest money into a child and they are supposed to repay you back and take care of you, when you get older. If children refuse to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:12 PM
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No, blood is totally one of the most important things. If that's the case then what is the difference between friends and family ? You share a lot of similar traits and features with your blood relatives, but not with your friends. I don't see co dependency as a bad thing at all. The couples are still equal. People should be inter dependent upon each other, to hell with this culture of independence and Individualism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:08 PM
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Hey, I am not saying that males should be entitled to breeding, all I am saying is that equality should be followed and shitty, low tier, low status, poor genetics women shouldn't be allowed to breed either. The fact that the female equivalent of low status males can easily breed, by getting sperm (either through casual sex or sperm donors) is mind blowing. A lot of single mothers through sperm donors literally failed to get a partner. They are the female equivalent of Incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:05 PM
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Adoption is never ever the option. Those are not biologically related to you and don't carry your bloodlines or lineages. Not true, there are tons of sperms in this world, and less demand for them. Sperms are cheap, abundant and often given away for free. Uterus and eggs on the other hand, are a real constraint to the human fertility. Surrogates are insanely expensive and a lot of women won't become Surrogates even for a lot of money. Gay couples and infertile straight couples visit developing, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:03 PM
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Nothing is really necessary. Even sex is not necessary either. A lot of people live sexless lives and a lot of people don't have much sex on their marriages. Part time siblings are not real siblings. Real siblings are bound by blood relations, part time siblings aren't related by blood in any way. They are just close friends, that's all. Couldn't you have compromised a little bit and still lived with your male partner for a few more years ? Until your kids were 15/16 teenagers or something ? Did…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:53 PM
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It literally has no future when you are not in the working age population and you are suddenly unable to afford things. Financial plans can only save you upto a limit, the world will eventually treat you badly and see you as a liability.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:47 PM
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It is a fact that only the male sex needs to pass the tests of nature in order to be eligible to breed whereas the female sex has a nearly guarantee that it will breed. It is a fact that humankind has much more female ancestors than male ones. It is a fact that Polygamy has been the norm in prehistoric societies and human ancestors where only a few males and majority of women got to breed, whereas the majority of males didn't get to pass on their genes. Yes, being the privileged sex in nature, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:46 PM
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There is no such thing as actual sexual attraction then. Women are attracted to the peak hunter gatherer male body type only because their biology tells them that this guy has plenty of food, this guy can provide for you and your children, thus guy's genes are good and if your children have his genes then they will survive on their own easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:41 PM
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Basically you don't want any attachments so that you can keep on having a hedonistic lifestyle ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:39 PM
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You are Bi ? How old are you ? Why did you settle so early ? What do your children feel about their biological father and mother ? What do they feel about their biological mother being in a polygamous bisexual relationship ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:38 PM
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Not true at all. Men still need women to have children, whereas women don't need men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:36 PM
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What happened in the West before the World Wars happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:30 PM
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The resentment exists for the same reason for which women have resentments from having successful opportunities denied to them by the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:29 PM
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They just adjust, settle and compromise whereas wahmen don't need to do that to have a good 20s ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:27 PM
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What if the guy was super busy in his early 20s and/or had other problems (such as problems related to family) preventing him from doing all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:18 PM
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A lot if reptiles are capable of partheogenesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:45 AM
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Reptiles are still capable of all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 11:06 PM
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So what ? Are mammals really that special ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 12:34 PM
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Nope. Nature vs Nurture. You still get poodles.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:14 AM
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Take the Trad pill. Help restore society to it's glorious past.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:40 AM
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Legal equality is connected with other types of equality too. Abolish legal equality to achieve some other types of equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:39 AM
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That it's not necessary that they will end up with men despite having impulses ? Or that they will still keep their impulses for men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:02 PM
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There are plenty of species where only females exist and plenty of women are bisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:17 PM
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Good enough money is not Will Smith money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 08:16 AM
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Money cannot buy respect and a lot of things, sure it is important, but there are other ways to get it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 06:16 AM
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That's what happens in non western countries though, marriage is not primarily about Love.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 06:13 AM
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I think he is unable to leave because he would get a really bad deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 06:13 AM
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This just shows that even Alphas are not in a good position in society because of Feminism and if something like this can happen to Will Smith then forget about the average man. You can also look at Kanye West as an example of an Alpha getting cucked. I think you are ignoring the fact that Will's extra marital affairs were more of a reaction or let's say it mostly happened as a tit for tat after Jada started doing the cheating. The children of Mr. Smith were themselves supporting the lovers of J…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 06:12 AM
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Well, Polygamy exists in Apes, so that kind of supports the Poly theory in hunter gatherers too. What does being in charge means ? They were in charge of their own Wombs and that was enough. Even if they were pushed into Poly by the Alpha male, they learned to adapt by developing sexual relations with fellow wives. My point is that the Bisexual adaptation for Polygamy still survives to this day, even if the Polygamy was not intentional or consensual. The Beta males were not really needed in soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 10:56 AM
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I think you need to look up on Anthropology once again. Even before the start of the agricultural revolution (which started the patriarchy), hunter gatherer humans were likely to be Poly too (females reproduced much more than the males). Women are still being evolutionarily monogamous in a Poly household, they are being married to one high value man only. It's just that sexual attraction or sexual relations with fellow wives results in better bonding, cooperation and less infighting. Same sex at…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 11:26 AM
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Sorry, it was just a small town in Michigan. They maybe in a relationship with one person at a time, but Poly definitely would have more chances to fulfill each and every sexual romantic needs of a Bisexual person from a long term perspective. Tbh, I am of the opinion that most women are innately bisexual to a significant degree and that female sexuality is much more flexible and changeable as compared to male, hard visual sexuality. Even neuroscience validates this. More and more women are also…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 11:03 PM
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The EvoPsych and evolutionary explanation for Bisexuality is that Bisexuals females had a much much easier time living in harems and hence evolution incentivized Bisexuality in women. The vast majority of human history is full of Polygamy by high class males and monogamy is a post agricultural invention.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:52 PM
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Bisexuality is rising rapidly and more and more women are now identifying as Bisexual. Bisexuality also subtly promotes the idea of Polygamy and it's acceptance, aren't there a few states in the US where Poly people can now enter into civil unions ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 08:39 PM
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I get these ideas from Queer pages and from data on people under 30. There are also people with secret families which don't know about each other. I don't think people over the age of 40 should really be counted when we are talking about rising trends and change in patterns. Sure, a lot of 40+ people are still monogamist but since the TFR is low, they end up defining the trends even though they don't really represent social change. Even serial monogamy can be like polygamy because the divorced w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 08:38 PM
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I mean, the white Americans and the Black minorities, which have been a part of the US even before the second world war. So what ? Cultural assimilation or accepting the culture takes time and people immigrating from western countries into the US have very easily accepted it's culture because it is very similar to their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 08:32 PM
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I mean a rising number of many families are Poly with women being bisexual. Just because I am using family here doesn't mean children are involved, I couldn't find a better word to replace pairings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 03:47 PM
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Overpopulation is a gigantic Myth. It is plain old Malthusian thinking of the 20th century which lead to the world wars. Economics and wealth is not a zero sum game. We can go nuclear and significantly decrease our emissions. We can create more eco friendly technologies. We can build taller and taller buildings and floating cities. We are not even a Kardashev scale 1 civilization yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 07:58 AM
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What do you think will happen to the USA and the West when the immigrants outnumber the native population ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 11:39 PM
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It will still have better demographics than the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 11:38 PM
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There is, you don't have children with concubines.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 11:37 PM
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Quality vs quantity. Below replacement TFR means that it is unsustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 11:36 PM
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I don't see how a childfree woman needs to care as much about the future consequences of education policy as compared to a woman with 4 children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:41 PM
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Or you can indirectly penalize people who choose to remain single and/or childless with more taxes and less voting rights
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:40 PM
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Does your current state of society and politics agree with you ? Also, not to mention if immigration is stopped, you will also suffer an economic decline. I think a reverse gear to the 80s and 90s would be quite enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:39 PM
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As an Asian, I don't. Clearly our genes are very different. At least I don't value freedom above everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:36 PM
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We can penalize women with taxes, no voting rights, etc if they choose to remain single and/or childless.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:35 PM
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Men want children too, not just hedonistic sex. Those who get laid frequently may struggle to find women to have a family with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:34 PM
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Remove Democracy or at least change it drastically to give monogamous people with children much more political power in society, such as more voting rights compared to single people and childfree people. Else China and Russia are gonna win the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:33 PM
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If that were true then no elite man should have been pro monogamy. The fact is, monogamy also benefits elites, but only certain type of elites. Elites which want to intermix only in other Elites instead of doing Hypergamy, are very much in favour of Monogamy. R vs K selection basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:32 PM
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Unlike the Economy, Sexual Market is a Zero Sum Game.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:31 PM
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I see some enlightenment brainwashing over there. Freedom vs Stability. Freedom vs Utility. Freedom vs Equality. Freedom vs Duty and Responsibility. Freedom vs Social Cohesion. There are a lot of values which should not be ignored in the pursuit of Freedom. It is a great mistake of Westerners to prioritize Freedom above all else, tbh. Even Western Conservatives value freedom above everything else now, making then indistinguishable from Libertarians. Also, Individualism doesn't work in very large…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:30 PM
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Libertarianism will never work. Individualism will always fail in Diversity. In terms of Stability vs Freedom, Stability is also equally important.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:25 PM
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Also are you sure that you cannot make a society which benefits men more without sacrificing any benefits for women ? Power is a zero sum game, no ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:24 PM
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I just gave an example how some societies enforce monogamy and regulate the sexual market.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:18 PM
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Not true, in Asia and India, Polygamy was very rarely practiced even among Kings and Nobles. Kings and Nobles took mistresses occasionally. The Caste system was a compensation for that perhaps. The Caste system gave guarantee that your children will be at least as successful as you, so there were less reasons to practice Polygamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 06:21 PM
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No, take a look at Bajrang Dal, India. They don't let unmarried couples be together with each other in public space in India. They either forcibly marry them or harass, beat them. They also have routine protests against Valentine's Day. Most of their members are single, young, unmarried men of lower classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:39 PM
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The libertarian in you ignores that humans are Apes and have Ape like needs to maintain society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:37 PM
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It was your class match, not your looks match. People married in their own social classes, no hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:37 PM
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The path of Force is the only thing men can do against Nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:36 PM
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Marriage today is not necessary to have babies with someone, be in a relationship with someone or be in a live in relationship with someone. There are many Poly 1 male 2 female families in the West and they don't need to formally get married to get what they want. Marriage has become obsolete and it needs to be given more and more teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:36 PM
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You can look at Asia. Anything new and potentially hostile can be creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:34 PM
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Those types of Govts are mostly liberal democracy. Dictatorships benefit men in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:33 PM
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Opposite in case of China, Russia, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:32 PM
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Polyamory is just Polygamy in most cases. One woman multiple men are very rare, it's mostly one man paired up with two bisexual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:14 AM
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Having access to highly attractive dudes made you desire Johnny Depp less ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:10 AM
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Because Neoliberalism and elites wanting to break down the family units.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:08 AM
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Explored hormones, steroids, supplements and other bio chemical enhancers yet ? Anyway, through which you can become even more broader, in order to compensate for your large hips ?
/r/ExRedPill08/03/22 12:44 AM
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Have you thought about trying to be more masculine by going to gyms and taking testosterone supplements ?
/r/ExRedPill07/03/22 09:24 PM
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Just leave the Western world. The Western world is very very hostile to male happiness at this point. Go migrate to some decent second world country like Singapore, Russia (oops), etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 09:32 PM
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Women benefit more from homosexual relationships right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:27 AM
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Great, so we can finally agree that feminism, liberalism and movements for equality are bad cuz they mess with the monkey brain ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:23 AM
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Can't men do something about it, like ban female friendships or something ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:05 AM
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Wahmen use their friends even for fulfilling sexual and romantic needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:04 AM
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Maybe it's true for men in their 20s ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:03 AM
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Contraception is a recent invention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:01 AM
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A lot of people do care about their community/ethnicity/genetic ancestry/ race group. A lot of people are reactionary traditionalists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 12:15 AM
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Enough is a relative term here, are you enough even if you are a majority minority ? Do you understand what TFR below replacement means ? TFR of 1.0 means your society is halved every generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 11:01 PM
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Because ethnicity and outbreeding is connected to patriarchal values and culture. A feminist, childfree, pro choice utopia, will almost always be outbreed by pro natalist, anti abortion, patriarchal traditional conservative society as the latter encourages breeding or doesn't allow women to opt out of breeding. Imagine those countries running the world instead of the liberal west. If they outbreed you and you rely on them way too much for immigration then they will end up imposing their values a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 10:36 PM
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if women like you are more and more common in the West, then I totally believe that it was a mistake that women can now choose not to become pregnant, you will simply end up being outbred by more pro breeding societies like let's say India.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 09:34 PM
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Well obviously you would not get a choice if you were not financially independent or were born in some third world country. You won't even become a surrogate or it is just about raising them ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 09:33 PM
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Duh, men need to be hornier else we won't end up passing our genes, this is Evo Bio 101
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 09:26 PM
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Wow, so what it will require ? Not even having more legal or voting rights ? Not even if you would get massive tax exemptions and would otherwise have to pay a lot of taxes ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 09:25 PM
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This !!! Same phenomenon with wealth and education. We are going the Time Machine way and creating different classes of humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 09:20 PM
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It shows lacks of willingness to commit to her, or making that even a factor. Women don't have strong incentives to hookup, unless the man is very very very attractive or very high value compared to them. Female sexual attraction is also not very visual right ? Women fear you won't stick around after having children with them or after they lose their beauty as they become older. After you had children with them, the deed is done and you just need to do the minimum effort and she is now stuck wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:48 PM
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Yeah, but women fear you won't stick around after having children with them or after they lose their beauty as they become older. After you had children with them, the deed is done and you just need to do the minimum effort and she is now stuck with the children unless she gives them up for adoption. This is basically about impregnating as many women as possible, at least some of your children will survive strategy, it is highly R selected.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:45 PM
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Well, that is a highly individualistic and selfish take, yeah sure, your uterus does not belong to them but then again, people's wealth does not belong to others, yet we tax wealth to provide wellfare and stuff. Also, adoption is never a substitute for one's own biological children, at least for a man. Women also adopt more because they either made a conscious choice not to have their bio children or can almost always have them later on, very easily, unless they hit menopause. Men on the other h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:17 PM
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Make it illegal to divorce your wife if she is behaving nicely and you have children..Men behave badly they go to jail. A little authoritarian measures can easily fix the damage done by socially and sexually liberal policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 12:10 PM
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Western tradition predates democracy and there have been thinkers like Joseph De Maestre and Hobbes too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 11:42 AM
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F Fukuyama is wrong. End of History doesn't factor in AI and a lot of other upcoming technology. Why are you measuring authoritarian states on the basis of freedom ? The whole point of having a China like govt is that you value other things more besides freedom. Even the wealthy Chinese elite openly claim that they value Stability much more than they value Freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 11:41 AM
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America is a nation run by immigrants and immigrants will take over it and impose their own values, instead of America dying just like those older examples. American progress is largely driven by Globalism, outsourcing things to developing patriarchal countries and bringing in high skill immigrants from developing patriarchal countries. If we remove everyone having Asian origins from America then you would end up losing a lot of smart and successful people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 11:34 AM
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But deception is fair game.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 11:30 AM
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Human history of Polygamy and hunter gather women becoming mothers through casual sex encounters like in animals, turns them into sperm donors.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 11:27 AM
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It is a market and functions like any other market.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 11:25 AM
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Well, there's another way which involves completely changing the marriage, divorce and family court system. Also why don't women take some risks, get married and get pregnant by their husband ? Why are women so risk averse ? It is still worth the risk because you still get childsupport.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 11:19 AM
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It's awesome for you, but not for the overall society. It is decreasing happiness among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 11:14 AM
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Being with single moms means raising someone else children not your own DNA.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 11:11 AM
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Well, it does, if they are mandate by the law to be around you like in some Asian countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 11:10 AM
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Not in Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 11:09 AM
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Overpopulation is a Malthusian Myth. Our species is threatened by lack of clean sources of energy. Happiness index are often wrong. Also, you are ignoring the overall impact of the society. Men with children may be happier than childfree men and they cannot have children without women obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 11:09 AM
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To sexually satisfy women easily and give multiple orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 11:12 AM
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Because of their inherent biological incapacity to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 09:33 AM
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So that it could benefit men just like it historically had. The discovery of female pleasure, arousal and female sexuality, has only brought disadvantage to the majority of males of the species.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 11:59 PM
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Two unpopular opinions I hold : (1) Male and female sexuality are very fundamentally different. Even straight and homo sexuality are different, it's not just the preferred partner being changed from one sex to another. (2) Female sexuality is way more programmable compared to male sexuality. Males are more programmable in other areas though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 11:58 PM
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Wow, so it has finally been released, is it available to torrent now ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 11:55 PM
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By we I obviously meant the men...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 11:53 PM
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Are you white yourself though, just asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 11:00 AM
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Well, we can return to tradition and teach wahmen once again that they don't have any sexual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 10:27 AM
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Asia and India basically ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:33 PM
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A single digit number is perfectly acceptable to me. Double digits may be acceptable. Triple digits, no way unless you are a pornstar.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:29 PM
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Patriarchy is non existent in the West compared to Asia or Africa or Middle East.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:28 PM
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Asian and traditional societies have been more fairer to losers than current western liberal ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:26 PM
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Conservative dating is an oxymoron. Dating and sexually liberal societies cannot be Conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:23 PM
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Don't adjust yourself to the current environment. Fight politically to change the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:22 PM
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"Peope need freedom" Can't agree with it as an Asian.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 06:22 AM
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Umm....your education is also an excuse to find work in your economy, industry and get a citizenship or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 06:21 AM
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No, they want tall men because they now have greater choice as they have more power in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 11:08 AM
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But women are now increasingly becoming financially independent and economically successful too. Women are outearning men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:31 AM
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MBA and JDs are not mathematically rigorous though. MBAs are social sciences for capitalists. I can agree for engineering, tech, computer science, physics related courses. Also, I believe that western education is quite easier compared to the education system in Asia. Not just that, it's very easy to get admission anywhere in the West if you are rich enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:25 AM
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Monogamy has been the norm in agricultural societies and post agricultural revolution. Polygamy still exists in Tribes and isolated communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:20 AM
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Yeah, but it still won't exist in a society where it's not easy to have sex outside of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:19 AM
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Both are interrelated, that's like saying single motherhood problem is the problem with those people not society. Incels wouldn't even exist in India, South Asia, etc because we still have a functioning patriarchy, women have low standards and arranged marriages still exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:18 AM
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A nerd can have a healthy body too through Yoga, meditation and such things. Healthy body =/= physical strength and athletic prowess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:14 AM
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DNA is still finite and genes work in combinations not isolation. If you are adding genes to be good in X then you may be losing genes which would have made you good in Y. Why are you assuming that their wealth will be equally divided ? I bet that their favorite sons will get most of the resources in most cases. As I already said : (1) women don't really have the capacity to determine which is the best one since they still get impregnated by dumb unsuccessful dudes who are just good looking. (2)…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:12 AM
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Perhaps but women are now outearning men on average in the liberal West, no ? (Perhaps it's because of govt benefits and programs but still).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:01 AM
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MBA is just social sciences for capitalists. It doesn't have any mathematically rigorous subject except perhaps economics. I only see STEM as intellectually demanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:59 AM
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He isn't a STEM genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:58 AM
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Are those STEM degrees ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:55 AM
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I ain't no trusting western standards of education. Your exams are easy as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:54 AM
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chemical engineering. I would agree that Jocks are more hardworking. Stephen Hawking wasn't a Jock.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:53 AM
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Billionaires can very easily afford to have harems. Millionaires can very easily have more than 1 wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:04 AM
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But he would run out of women from elite circles if he wants a harem, so he would be willing to compromise ? Also, a shit tin of wealthy successful men marry actress who grew up as middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:52 PM
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So, you believe that people can simply train their way into physical capacity and win medals at the Olympics ? No, Arnold literally has special genes which result in his muscles being much more developed with far less exercise. He has far less biological inhibitors to muscle growth compared to the average person. Forget Arnold, the athletes which win medals in Sprint, have far more amounts of fast twitch muscle fibers compared to the normal person. Or those who play some physically demanding spo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:50 PM
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Okay, fair enough, but the people which are gifted in both are probably rarest of the rare I will get back at you after getting some data to back this claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:44 PM
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Every Jock puts in hours of work agreed. But not everyone can be a Jock just by putting in more hours to exercise. That's like saying, study more and you may become a Physicist some day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:32 PM
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We arguing about Nature vs Nurture now. The whole point of Jock vs Nerd distinction was to separate the Naturally athletically gifted from the Naturally intellectually gifted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:31 PM
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It is only fair though, because women are much more necessary and important to the act of reproduction than men. Women have a shit ton of advantages in nature and traditional roles seems like an equalizer. When men realize this, then perhaps they would be able to reward traditional women much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:28 PM
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Well, the West does have a recent infamous problem of incels and rising male virginity ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:25 PM
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High Conscientious behavior is not just about putting in more hours though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:24 PM
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Jocks aren't just attractive people. They are attractive people with stronger bodies. The hunter gatherer body type. Nerds can be cute or have a good face too, but they are bad at physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:23 PM
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Dudes like Hugh Hefner existed. Why that's not analogous to partners ? The women involved just need to be wives for their fertility windows anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:22 PM
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We still live in societies where people stay at the same location for a very large amount of time. We don't keep on migrating or live like nomads.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:20 PM
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They cannot manage if everyone does the same thing. Take the ratios, numbers, etc and simply scale them up. You get the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:17 PM
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Wow, what a bad study to refute my claim. The study says that people who exercise more are more fit and more intelligent too. It is about correlation of exercise with IQ levels and anyone can exercise. The study doesn't say that people who are inherently good at athletics because of athletic genes, more muscle mass, are naturally physically superior can also be highly intelligent at the same time. A jock isn't a person who exercises. It is a person who is naturally gifted with superior physical …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:15 PM
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My point is that if your brain is always filled with dopamine you won't have motivation. They release dopamine too but in far less amounts and they aren't addictive or create dopamine loops. You can look at the Aborigines Tribes in Australia. They used to practice a lot of Polygamy and now they are highly inbred. Sharing same father makes the children more inbred compared to children whose fathers are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:12 PM
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Fair enough but both are intersecting sets and you would eventually need a filtering criteria to separate the intelligent from the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:09 PM
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It would result in inbreeding in the long run and what about the rest of the guys ? You think they would be okay with it ? Are you sure, it's just attraction which matters, not evolutionary incentives ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:08 PM
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Okay but they need to be productive enough if we still want to maintain the current rates of R nd D, prosperity and consumption levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:07 PM
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What reasons do women have to refuse the offer ? How is consent involved here ? That's like saying consent still applies when a company is offering you a shit ton of money for work which would otherwise give you average pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:06 PM
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No, it isn't. You can clearly look at the kids who win the maths, programming and spell bee competitions, and see that they are all nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:04 PM
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Pre nups exist ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:03 PM
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Dopamine rush is the motivation and sex gives Dopamine rush without an productive outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:03 PM
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Consent still applies but women are hypergamous ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:02 PM
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Whereas way more FtM detrans than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:00 PM
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Yes, because women have an inherent utility and have the monopoly over baby making. So they don't need to appeal to men. Also, men can lose their masculinity very easily in the biological sense of the word too, those tools are fragile as fuck lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:59 PM
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Yeah, like male feminists..
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:56 PM
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Butch lesbians are also similar but they are literally the opposite of pickmes ? Perhaps because they are now competing with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:53 PM
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Anti natalism ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:50 PM
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So cucks, submissives and masochists shouldn't exist ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:47 PM
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A lot of those women do go homo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:43 PM
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To have my own children, give my children their biological mother and start a family. I personally don't find sperm donors and surrogates as an ethical option. I believe that it's pretty cruel to deny a child, any sort of contact or relationship with their biological parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:43 PM
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Wow, that seems superhuman. Are they whole body, multiple orgasms ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:38 PM
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No, I would rather have an Islamic patriarchy than that kind of world, no thanks. I owe my loyalty to the cause of benefiting mankind and humanity. Not all situations can be win win. Somethings are and will always remain as zero sum games.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:37 PM
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Toxic masculinity means selfish male behavior to gain something X which then results in gaining access to women. It is basically about gaining power to secure pussy and power is a zero sum game. For example, if you are a dude competing with 2 woman and 2 men in a job market then it would make sense to bring the other men down, if you cannot lift yourself up, so that, at least you can have better chances with the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:11 PM
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Male orgasms from the dick suck anyway, at least make them a more pleasurable experience as a trade.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:07 PM
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It's because we have an inherent fear of the uncertainty that we may never be able to pass on our genes and die without ever having children. This fear of genetic death severely decreases our disgust threshold. We would rather pass on our genes and then die, as compared to dying for free. Another reason is cuckoldry. Cucking some other male has huge genetic advantages from an evolutionary perspective, so we would like to cuck someone even if their female partner is not very attractive. Women on …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:03 PM
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Men need women not really vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:51 PM
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Make them more visual creatures and make men better looking as an adjustment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:50 PM
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Nearly all would end up in Bi Poly relationships with High Value men then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:48 PM
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But then it would be unfair to males as our dick orgasm are so bad compared to yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:47 PM
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They can simply go homo or become single mothers through sperm donors or casual sex. Men are actually much more dependent upon women for reproduction than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:42 PM
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Basically remove everything about feminity that benefits men. Same goes for toxic masculinity. Toxic masculinity is just masculinity which benefits males. Traditional masculinity minus toxic masculinity is just Chivalry and Simp behavior, Basically things which benefit the females. To summarize, basically the end goal of redefining both masculinity and feminity is to redefine them in such a way, that both of them should benefit women in society, and none of them should benefit men in society. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:38 PM
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Only if you leave out the possibility of Group Selectuon and K dominant models. Males who share a shit ton of genetics are actually not in very strong competition with each other, compared to unrelated males.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:51 PM
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In Western liberal societies, basically the Anglosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:49 PM
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Why are you assuming that mutations won't happen ? You believe that humans still undergoe a huge degree of sexual selection and sexual competition ? It will be nearly the same as a man and a woman producing a girl child. That's my point, but females don't really need males, so it won't make a huge difference even if they go extinct. There are a lot of female only species, but they only produce clones of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:48 PM
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That shouldn't be more important than education itself though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:37 AM
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BTW, what do you think about a possible scenario where someone develops a technology which allows women to reproduce with each other ? Would that result in males going extinct or something ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:48 AM
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Yaaay. Resources aren't a problem at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:34 AM
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*existed. It no longer exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:34 AM
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Don't underestimate the Chinese.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:33 AM
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There are some universities which only have STEM courses though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:28 AM
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I'll join a far right outfit and go beat up some couples doing PDA in public. Just kidding.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 03:30 AM
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"At least in college", perhaps true but lige continues after college and college is expensive. Are we talking about STEM courses or social sciences or universities in general ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 03:07 AM
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Female virginity has increased only post covid 19, seems like a temporary phenomenon. Male virginity has been constantly increasing much before that while female virginity was constant at the same time. Data shows that almost all sexual orientations have it better than straight men, as in they have more average partners and have longer average relationship size, etc. Gay men had the highest number of average partners whereas straight men had the least number of sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 03:30 PM
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I beg to differ, a shit ton of high value men are secretly engaging in Poly behavior or casual sex with multiple women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:27 AM
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I think he's making a list of what not to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:25 AM
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The bi women are already open about it and people find it sexy, an added bonus if the girl is bi, not the same for dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:02 AM
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Can't say. Those dudes who skip pussy for video games either never hope to score it or have already scored enough to call themselves experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:58 AM
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Yeah, STEM folks do find it hard to smash, at least till they complete their studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:56 AM
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A lot of gay men do report that they have sexual encounters with bi men who are still inside the closet, married to women, have girlfriends and don't come out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:53 AM
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But it's not a good time to be a man right now, at least in the modern liberal world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:50 AM
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Sex workers are always an option ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:49 AM
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I don't believe that most bisexual men are out. The bi and trans men prefer to be in stealth mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:48 AM
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Same goes for bi men, no ? Basically everyone likes women over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:45 AM
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I don't agree with the bisexual men part. Bisexual men don't exist out of the closet because they won't benefit from the patriarchy and they don't need to come out either, if they want to enjoy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:44 AM
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Wow, that's good for the men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:29 AM
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Well, society does give lesbians a pussy pass compared to straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:27 AM
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They like women as incubators, they mostly like their physical and biological aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:26 AM
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Unlike gay men, Straight women don't like hypermasculine men, they rather prefer like tall and thin men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:24 AM
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Because they are women themselves. Also, men have the evolutionary reasons to objectivify women and they view women differently because of the nature of make and female sexuality is different. Hell, even the nature of male and female homosexuality is very very different. Male homosexuals have a shit ton of partners and short term flings, casual sex, etc throughout their lives and objectify other men just like how men objectify women. Whereas lesbians have way less number of sexual partners but h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:22 AM
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How do lesbos and Bi women do it then ? Or are they exceptions ? Or these rules of behavior only apply when women deal with men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:18 AM
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Men are the gatekeepers of relationships but relationships aren't necessary to produce children. In fact, relationships were just a means to produce and raise children. Other animals and our ancestors just had casual sex and mother takes care of the children. Casual sex is the norm in Nature and relationships are the exception. No, nobody makes women pay money to men except in celebrity cases. Yes, the state does provide to poor men, but it also provides to poor women, no advantages there. In fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:16 AM
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The levels of virginity among young males are only on the rise even before covid 19 and literally every other sexual orientation has it better in the dating market, in terms of number of partners over a lifetime and length of relationships when compared to straight men. Among young women it is actually bisexuality which is on the rise and women make up the majority of bisexuals and bisexuals make up the majority of the LGBT community.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:10 AM
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Yeah, it's actually the society which programs them to like men as it associates their own status to the status of their male partners. The lesbos call it comphet or something. All the programs and policies which were meant to make women financially independent and empower them, absolutely made it much more difficult for men to land a wife and keep her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:07 AM
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I don't really believe in the existence of straight women. Nearly every other woman has some homo tendency, probably due to evolutionary reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 06:46 AM
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You cannot sustain capitalism level of inequality when majority of men neither have women nor money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:34 AM
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Can't earn if nearly all women get taken asap they reach adulthood. There must be something left to earn in the first place. Also, women who already had children with one man would often not want to reproduce again even after a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:34 AM
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That will lead to tons of inbreeding bro. Aborigines are quite inbred because of Polygamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:29 AM
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Obligations are socially constructed
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 12:50 AM
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Ram.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 12:48 AM
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No, it isn't a coincidence. I'm an Indian.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 12:47 AM
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My child grows up without having contact with biological mother ? Isn't that cruel ? Also, many countries are now banning surrogacy because of misuse by foreigners.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 12:47 AM
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You cannot breed with robo women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 11:42 PM
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You cannot breed with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 11:41 PM
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A man may build his own house if he doesn't have one, a man may build his own computer if he doesn't have one, a man may build his own car if he doesn't have one. However, a man cannot build his own woman if he doesn't have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 11:29 PM
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A man may build his own house if he doesn't have one, a man may build his own computer if he doesn't have one, a man may build his own car if he doesn't have one. However, a man cannot build his own woman if he doesn't have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 11:29 PM
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Because women with opinions like you and who are simultaneously aware of this whole redpill thing are rare. Another thing which I would like to add, the decline in childbirth and global fertility levels is also making matters worse as guys now are competing not just with guys in their age group but also with much older guys. The much older guys who couldn't secure women in their own age group, will almost always go for younger girls then, because they easily can and have more assets too. Older s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 11:24 PM
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I think this strategy is only good for women who are either average or below average in terms of physical attractiveness. The above average guy won't easily commit to these women that's why it makes sense for them to approach the other sex too or at least initiate things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:21 PM
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They won't get the man to commit to them..lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:19 PM
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It also works if you are a woman who is below average in terms of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:18 PM
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Women can also get their dead partner to impregnate them, there is a process called "post mortem sperm retrieval" or use the frozen sperms of someone who died.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:06 PM
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But for mother, the ultimate decider of the pregnancy, even though child support is much much better than getting a sperm donor, they still have the option to get a man to become their sperm donor as opposed to men who have to either convince a woman to become their wife or partner. Either way, if they want to become mothers, woman still get money, if not from the father, the state provides, or they can get a sperm donor for nearly free. In some countries like Sweden, the man can sign away his r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:04 PM
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Well, single mothers still get child support, which is much much better than getting nothing at all and rarely will any random man who impregnated you in a one night stand, want anything to do with his children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:12 PM
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I mean it costs really nothing to guys to donate their sperms for free and they also get to spread their genes for free too. Yes, child support and child custody exist, but one just needs to make the sperm donor or the potential father sign a form that they are giving away their fatherly rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:10 PM
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Just a curious question, to which community, ethnic group or religious group do you belong to ? (Not personally, as a family background or something).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:41 AM
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Can't relate. I'm an Indian. We have arranged marriages. Women are a privilege mostly in the liberal west.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 08:59 PM
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Sperms and dicks are cheap, abundant, low value and often offered to women for free. You wouldn't find it happening vice versa because of biological costs of motherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 08:57 PM
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You don't always need to date women to marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 08:55 PM
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Surrogates are expensive, hard to find and you don't get a lot of choice as very few people want to become Surrogates. Compared to sperm donors ? Nearly every guy can donate his sperm for free without any serious consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 08:55 PM
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You want to please women because you have to or need to please women in order to be with them. This isn't something necessary for men living in patriarchal societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:17 PM
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Btw Why are you assuming that current liberal societies benefit HV women to the max ? HV women now have to share their HV men instead of having exclusive right over him. Also, they now have a harder time securing his commitment, investment, etc since he can easily have mistresses and easily get another wife after a divorce. Polygamy harms HV women as it prevents them from having exclusive control over the resources of their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:42 PM
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Agreed on nearly all of that you said. But I would like to believe that current trends show sexual freedom being overrated (for the collective, at least) given how it has lead to the unintended consequences like single motherhood, teenage pregnancy. Also, since there is already a huge resentment in Western societies regarding economic inequality, the element of Polygamy would make the comparisons even worse. I'm pretty sure that at least improving the dating market for LVM would make them more a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:11 AM
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Traditional Conservative philosophy and ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:36 AM
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Wow, that's great to hear. Can you elaborate more on unwilling to support themselves thingy ? They still want providers ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:34 AM
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Red Pill explains why Trad societies were better for men and also better in some ways fir women. You cannot understand Tradcons without going through TRP first.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:32 AM
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Yeah, but now your only argument against the so called sexual protectionism is that it doesn't benefit me. Whereas capitalists have a much more Utilitarian and neutral argument against economic protectionism. Human DNA is still having the same finite length. You are making a trade off in terms of genetics not an overall improvement. I kinda agree about the collapse but I am very optimistic about Asia. It is mostly Western countries which may see a collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:31 AM
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You do realize that promoting economic capitalism also benefits LV men since HV men may not be able to stay wealthy and stay powerful for long ? And that most women support Socialism because they only want to care about looks but are forced to consider the providing aspect too now ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:05 AM
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Quite impressive views you have there, rare to find in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:59 AM
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That would be fine if women's preferences got updated since 10,000 to keepup with the times. They still want the hunter gatherer not the ece engineer. Humans undergo cultural evolution now not the biological one as the latter is way too slow. If it is moral to make evolution happen then even eugenics are justified. The main arguments against protectionism was that economy is not a zero sum game. If we do consider it as a mating market then protectionism seems like fair since it is zero sum now. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:57 AM
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Ok fair point, men shouldn't cheat either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:45 AM
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Power comes from bottom to top more often than it comes from top to bottom. These dudes cannot do anything without support from the masses. Women won't take enough risks to stop them as they have much more to lose compared to LV men. You would rather risk revolutions by LV men than make things fairer ? HV men cannot control large number of mobs of LV men unless they fool the LV men. Basically what the media and the system keeps on doing. There is no comparable free market here because mating is …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:43 AM
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Also LV men didn't control those societies for free. They had to sacrifice their blood, face violence, death, danger, etc and engage in risky things which current LV men aren't capable of.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:37 AM
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Perhaps, but the intellectual dude looking bad ans having poor physique is much more closer to reality than you think. Women cheating their husbands harm the husbands much more as compared to men cheating on their wives. Cuckoldry goes only one way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:34 AM
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You can almost always start aborting the male babies if you want to. That's an easy way to reduce the number of males without violence. LV men are almost always going to be the majority of men. You are fighting a losing battle. The only solution for women is to go homo and/or make men obsolete or have a female only society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:27 AM
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As an early 20s male who is automatically LV cuz of age and a person who believes that your system rewards "dumb jocks", instead of "intellectually gifted men", I would like things to change. Also, the fact that even older men cannot easily have wife n kids because of how normalized cheating is and how very few women want to have children, I don't see myself winning anywhere in this system. Neither as a young man who wants to have fun nor as an older man who is pretty serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:24 AM
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Also, it is mostly dumb dudes who are breeding the most in liberal societies. Intelligent and educated people are breeding a lot more in Asian countries compared to the West. Even if their TFR is low, their average intelligence may become higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:12 AM
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Korea, agreed. But China is an exception. Their birth rates declining are a temporary phenomenon because of recent 1 or 2 child policy. At least their population is somewhat getting better in terms of quality whereas children being born to single mothers, etc don't have things good.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:08 AM
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Both. Having a society where women are in majority will mean easy time for the men which exist in those societies. Equality under the law is a novel concept and so many other societies like China don't follow it. You are at War with those societies. If LV men become the majority and have unity then they can achieve what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:04 AM
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There is something called group selection and you are at a cold war with other societies, many of whom practice forced monogamy. China. The TFR of non forced mono societies is also declining.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:01 AM
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I dislike that fact that it can be a huge gamble but only for men. Women get a free pass to have a bio family without much competition. I just wish men had some sort of a minimum guarantee or something like that. We can make extremely monogamous society through authority, which has k selection as dominant. Also you are assuming that all selection happens at individual level. There was group selection in the past through Tribal warfare. Ironically this involved women to a great extent. Satis. Wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:59 PM
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I don't like that being a male is such a huge gamble. I would rather take the k dominant society where even the best of the males can only have 1 woman through social interventions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:50 PM
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Yes which is why it doesn't make sense for men and women to be 50/50 in society. Also you are assuming absence of strong socially enforced monogamy. We can make a K dominant society through authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:47 PM
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Very few animals lean towards K. Most lean towards R.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:36 PM
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But since it is easy to spread seed they get impregnated anyways, no ? Also you are assuming that Poly is not possible or animals like Bees, Praying Mantis, Partheogenesis, Lesbian lizards, etc don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:35 PM
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Yeah, but most female celebs still look decent after pregnancy. Also we have Caesarians now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:33 PM
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But male virginity among younger males and sexual inequality in society is also rising up. The graphs claim that men are getting less sex, partners, relationships, etc even if these things stay with same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:26 PM
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When most guys read the theory of evolution and sexual selection for the first time in their lives, a kind of huge resentment kicks in (either subconsciously or consciously). It makes them feel like they have been given the short end of the stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:23 PM
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Those standards are very high for short term sex but quite low for long term sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:18 PM
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There is inequality in society, so of course they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:44 PM
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Alt Right will always be connected to TRP because of their origins and resentment towards feminist movements. Redpill was just the birthplace of the new atheist right wing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:42 PM
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Some men become trad after redpill I became more trad after going through red pill and tradcon theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:40 PM
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Well the products of the Manosphere such as the Alt Right, Neo Reactionaries, Paleo Conservatives did care about that in fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:38 PM
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Because it gives meaning to their lives and a strong reason for them to be with the woman and care about her. Even if a man wants to be with a woman for LTR, there isn't strong enough reason until children are added to the equation. The only exception are soulmates, who are like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle, fitting well into each other (pun intended).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:44 PM
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No that's not the actual black pill. Actual blackpill is that you cannot win against nature when it comes to sex, plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:36 PM
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He has lots of children now, right ? More than 2 at least ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:11 PM
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Those attractive men want children and families then, if they don't want casual sex. Which very few women offer in modern societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:10 PM
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Society doesn't reward people who have children. Women don't need a man anymore to have and raise children.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 07:40 PM
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That is a heaven compared to having a society of mostly cat ladies and incels. The average woman can also look great because of tech, these people have no idea what they have just lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 07:36 PM
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Traditional Dating is an Oxymoron. Dating cannot exist in a Traditional society. A Traditional society would have arranged marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 10:32 AM
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No, resources matter too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 04:58 AM
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The hard part is finding a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 03:57 AM
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Men get cucked not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 03:56 AM
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Ever since humans started walking on two feet two major things happened : (1) Human birth canal shrunk dramatically. Babies needed to be softer now. (2) Humans developed permanent breasts. I don't know whether it happened before or after, but humans are the only primates with no mating season and permanent breasts. Perhaps this leas to some change ? (3) Maybe nutritional differences from agriculture are also a reason why women had to be more attractive ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 03:13 AM
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Sons get their X chromosome from their mother. So, maybe their ugliness also comes from them ? You mean to say that everyone should be Sexier after some point of time because of attractive men spreading their genes ? Maybe the rising attractiveness in women is not caused by selection from men, but by unattractive women dying in childbirth easily or unable to nourish their babies successfully in the past ? The problem is that humankind shifted to Monogamy instead of Polygamy and ugly women too ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 03:04 AM
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Physical attractiveness in men from a straight female perspective is not the same as attractiveness from a general perspective. Straight females are much more into the faces of men and care less about how big and strong they are and how big their dick is. Gay men and Straight women have vast differences when it comes to their tastes in men. This shouldn't happen either, if we believe your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:54 AM
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Women also have the technology and makeup to fake the beauty if they lack the genes. Men don't really have any options to fake their attractiveness. Since men have more variation, the sexiness doesn't really express itself even if more men have the genes for it ??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:52 AM
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Men don't have the privilege of the world treating them like women because they aren't very essential to reproduction and lack the Uterus. Simple as that. Even women wouldn't be treated like women if they didn't had the Uterus privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:37 AM
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Another problem is that the recent financial independence and power to secure resources on their own, makes it harder for men to do that, even if they want to. Those men you dated were probably highly selected and were the cream of their societies. If you compare the men of those places to the western duded dating them, then it's still a win from the perspective of those women. Well, women simply have too much freedom now. They can get themselves treated like women as well as live like a man if …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:36 AM
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You sure, it's about Y chromosome but not a lack of another X chromosome ? Having 2 X chromosomes is unique to women and already gives them some health benefits. Genes responsible for secondary sexual characteristics are on our X chromosomes. You can look at Trans people as evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:27 AM
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I mean to say that those same set of genes would result in daughters being sexy. Sexy people pass down their sexy genes, you can easily take a look at celebs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:25 AM
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facepalm I mean, your dick and sperms will get the job done for 99% of men quite easily and effortlessly. The only problem is finding a willing woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:22 AM
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Yeah, it's just boys and men with female biology. Well, even if one is angry at feminism, ruining video games should literally be the last priority. Also, Nietzche >>> Stoics. Your comment implies that being Stoic means more mature and manly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:19 AM
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I mean, still....nearly all men can easily impregnate someone with little to no effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:15 AM
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Your liberal feminist society will lose the power game against patriarchal societies. There is something called, "Group Selection".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 01:52 AM
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Women today are more of a man with female biology than they are a woman. The modern world has only the female man and male man now, there are no women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 01:51 AM
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They have an aversion to modern women. They like women from developing countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 01:50 AM
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It's a Game which nature intended for men to play. Blame the Game not the Player.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 01:49 AM
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What's that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 01:45 AM
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There is a hypothesis regarding why women like physically attractive men. It's called "The sexy son hypothesis". They want these men to impregnate them so that they can get a sexy son too and can then very easily spread their genes far and wide compared to women having unattractive sons or daughters (because daughters have limits to fertility). This hypothesis makes, sense but "The sexy daughter" hypothesis actually makes even more sense. The hypothesis states that women chase attractive men bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 01:43 AM
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This is one of the only few remaining Red Pill related subs on reddit, and that too while being quite neutral instead of being biased unlike other subs which talk on similar topics but lean left/lib/feminist, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 01:00 PM
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Depends. I would say, give them enough rights that women in China, Japan, etc have and the ban feminism like China has banned it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:58 PM
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They also have the easy way out, using sperm donors and becoming a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:09 PM
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Very few women are unfuckable if one purely judges on the basis of looks
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:05 PM
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I think it would be far more better to be a short, thin and weak woman than to be a short, thin and weak man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:05 PM
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They need feminism so that those societies also become like the West ? No, they don't need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:04 PM
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Totally on point 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:58 PM
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Basically Islamic countries ?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 02:06 AM
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A society should look after it's own collective selfish interests and should try to preserve itself. Giving women that choice (without limits) will lead to either tons of single men or very low fertility rates like the West. All rights are established through power struggle and violence. The single men as a consequence of this, may start their own ISIS, Taliban, etc. I would rather go the China way and have an authoritarian state instead of letting people have dangerous choices.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/22 08:10 PM
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Single men without wives and jobs is a recipe for a disaster. Most Polygamous societies including Islamic societies are highly violent because men over there don't have a fair chance to breed and hence they don't have any strong reasons to support the existence of the society. Those societies experience frequent revolts, instability, etc as you can see in Iraq, Syria, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. Ensuring that maximum number of men get access to a partner and are able to start a biologicall…
/r/ExRedPill26/01/22 08:05 PM
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"Breeding is not a right, it's privilege". So, it is perfectly fine that the State denies some people to breed ? Is eugenics justified if breeding is not a right ? "These are not dark ages anymore" The dark ages happened in the West and also, they are exaggerated. That is just a period for which no written records exist and people didn't care about intellectual pursuits. Hindu society is highly conservative, collectivistic and patriarchal. It is nothing like the West. Hindus have arranged marria…
/r/ExRedPill26/01/22 07:57 PM
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All rights are man made and subjective. Rights are socially constructed entitlements. They are artificial just like anything else, for example, gender, justice, the concept of money, etc etc. Having the Uterus is a privilege in itself and women should be held accountable for that. Having the Uterus means that they get to have the ultimate choice regarding baby making and aren't dependent upon men at all to produce children. They just need some frozen sperms, even frozen sperms of a dead person w…
/r/ExRedPill26/01/22 07:52 PM
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If patriarchy prevents women from going after sexy men then perhaps intelligent men would have tons of children too, if the intelligent men have enough resources.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/22 05:22 PM
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Not always, when intelligent men had power in society and when patriarchy didn't allow women to freely select men, intelligent men had a lot of children. Peak example, Brittain and the huge number of children which their upper classes had at some point in recent history.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/22 05:21 PM
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We can level the playing fields by simply banning the concepts of sperm/egg donors, or in other words, taking away the power of biological parents to sign away their rights. The law can step in and prevent men from being much more replaceable than they should be.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/22 05:11 PM
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The crisis of intelligent people being the exception not the norm.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/22 05:09 PM
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In the old times, people didn't get with each other for intellectual connection, but it the reverse had restrictions. People couldn't easily get into each other's pants just for their looks alone. The society before sexual revolution was more or less equal for both highly ood looking people and others.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/22 02:00 PM
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True. Which is why our species and society is in a crisis. Society claims to value Intelligence, but never values intelligence when it comes to allowing someone to get into your pants.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/22 01:58 PM
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Those countries don't support the idea of Love in the first place. They have a clan like structure and have arranged marriages.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/22 01:44 PM
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The fact is that sperms are so cheap, abundant and many men are even willing to give them for free. Surrogates on the other hand are expensive and so many women aren't willing to become a surrogate even for money. There is a huge supply problem compared to sperm donors. Using a sperm donor to become a single mother is not only legal but also socially and culturally acceptable. Lesbian couples regularly use sperm donors to have children. Gay men on the other hand, visit developing countries to fi…
/r/ExRedPill26/01/22 01:39 PM
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Same goes for the price of sex, yet prostitutes have a rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:29 AM
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Also the physical strength of men and their ability to protect is replaceable nowadays. There are guns and machines to do the heavy work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:56 PM
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Perhaps but men don't want women just for their hole, they want the whole body package. But they have casual hook ups mostly with a minority of men, right ? So, it is indeed about looks, how handsome and daddy ish a guy is, but most men aren't like that. It's like how only very few women are called as cool chicks and get their personality like by dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:35 PM
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That's because : (1) You can replace men easily through sex toys, machines and sperms are very cheap and abundant. You can easily get a sperm donor for free and always have the option of becoming a single mother. (2) You cannot replace women easily, neither in the sexual sense nor in the reproductive sense. Female sex dolls and sex robots of quality are also very very expensive for the average man. Surrogates are also very very expensive and are very hard to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:41 PM
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Red Pill men create FDS women.
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 06:37 PM
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Yeah, so it's not really about males being inherently bad in bed or not making equal efforts, basically what feminists make it out to be ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:21 AM
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It's more about the financiers in a 2 party system rather than the voters. Voters will only have 2 options, but it depends upon the financiers which candidate they want to give money to, out of the so many options that exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 11:20 AM
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Should gay women be even compared to straight women to begin with ? Do they even have similar neurology ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 11:08 AM
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And it has been disastrous as fuck for the rest of the people and society as a whole. The birthrates of western societies are way too low below replacement making them much more dependent upon immigrants than they should be. It is one thing, to welcome immigrants which are talented and add to your economy. It is another thing to be dependent upon them because your own birthrates are very low.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 02:52 AM
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She was assuming that money remains the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 08:31 PM
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Yeah, agreed, it just goes down way slower. The only difference is that their assets and resources value also goes up over time (till a limit obviously) and there is a point where the resources and assets value of men more than compensates for their decline in fertility and health value.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 08:30 PM
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Well then what about the prostate orgasm ? I tgought that the prostate orgasm was an evolutionary leftover.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 08:26 PM
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Yeah, humans were meant to be Polygamous if that's what you are implying. There's a shit ton of myths regarding bonobos out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:44 PM
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The female orgasm. If it was meant to incentivize women to have sex then it would be far more easier to achieve than it is now. It would be as easier as male ejaculation. But since pregnancy is so hard to experience and consumes a lot of resources, it wouldn't be very beneficial for women to desire sex (and bear it's associated risks) that much solely for the sexual pleasure given by the orgasm. In fact, the female orgasm serves the reverse purpose, it's aim is to select the males and sort them …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:45 PM
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Your statement is the female equivalent of : "No, I don't want to abolish the patriarchy and give righte to women. I'm living my best life as a male and it's so great."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 10:05 AM
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It is a Myth that Bonobos are egalitarian. Bonobos just have very different behavior when it wild compared to when in captivity. The major differences between bonobos and Chimps is that in Bonobos, the females are a significant part of the Tribe and take active role in their Tribal warfare. The female mother bonobos are also very influential in having their male sons hitched, that's it. Bonobos too have displayed hypergamy and preference for mating with the alpha male in Polygamous way. Also, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 10:04 AM
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Duh, obviously women wouldn't want that, but this period of history is not very good for men. So, of course, we would want to change things and change the status quo. Everything is not about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 09:56 AM
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You can look at human history, the history of human evolution and our Ape cousins and Ape like ancestors to see that most females used to live in harems dominated by the Alpha male.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 09:07 AM
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No, Eunuchs weren't supposed to be married at all. Most Eunuchs were in fact members of the Chinese imperial court and harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 07:00 AM
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Actually it wasn't really a shower thought, it was a late night thought before going to sleep. Of course, you bother me, you own the monopoly over the reproduction process in human society. Seize the means of reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:59 AM
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We want women to primarily become homemakers like in the good ol 20th century and then take on a secondary job or work, which doesn't consume a lot of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:57 AM
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Excuse for not having a wife/gf even if you want one ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:56 AM
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A few shower thoughts : (1) Only a strong military state can prevent society from going in the direction of left liberals. Liberal Democracy will almost always yield to feminism, liberalism, leftism and SJWs. Only a strong military state can safeguard the values and ideas of the right wing and conservativism, these values and ideas can never win in liberal democracy, because "Tragedy of commons". (2) Even Eunuchs in Acient China had wives and their marriage was called as a "vegetarian marriage" …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:26 AM
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A healthy dating market is an oxymoron. There would be marriage markets not dating markets.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:09 AM
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Huh, friends are comparable to family now ? I don't think friends would do as much for you as blood related family. Well, it feels to raise a little version of your wife/husband, small kids are as cute as pets. It is a Lifelong commitment but not everything is in your hands, a lot depends upon luck and how your child turns out to be. The genetics of your children are not in your hands, even their environment is partially in your hands. After reaching adulthood, kids shouldn't require helicopter …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:32 AM
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Also, children are a great investment for your middle age and old age. Even if you don't have any partner or husband or lover or friends, you would still have your adult children as a family if you choose to have children. It is a big commitment but I believe that it is definitely not very hard to make a marriage work decently for at least 10 to 15/20 years. It also feels bad on a biological level, not to pass on your genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 07:15 PM
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Well, you could also remove no fault divorce and allow divorce only in very serious circumstances. Also, if their ex husband is still paying for their children then there isn't really a lot of reason to go marry another man until and unless they need only romantic and sexual satisfaction which they can no longer get from their ex husbands. I see romantic and sexual dissatisfaction to be a bad reason for divorce in the first place, at least after you have already produced children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 07:12 PM
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Well, it suppressed their sexuality just like how bisexuals probably suppress their same sex attraction in anti lgbt countries. Even if women cannot change their sexuality they can at least suppress some parts of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 07:06 PM
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True, but I was talking wrt morality and possibilities
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 07:04 PM
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Well, women do live in Islamic countries
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:13 PM
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Red Pill men want traditional society back, they want women to have their own kids, they don't want to raise another guy's kids. The single moms hated on, are the single moms who get pregnant irresponsibly, not the ones who planned it, and had kids traditional way through marriage. Opting out of motherhood altogether means not having kids even if your male partner wants to have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:10 PM
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Well, I didn't like that, at least they shouldn't have been public about it on that show. Instead they chose to go homo on a show, that is meant to cater to male viewers. The show Bachelor is literally about women competing with each other, over a man and men would like to see it for the same reason. Going homo "with another contestant" is literally breaking the terms and insulting the premise of the show.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:06 PM
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Good for them, but what about us ? Attempted again ? There wouldn't be another attempt if they fail and males don't exist in enough numbers to return to the old ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 01:52 PM
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But I doubt that it's just a sex what they really want and whether they will be satisfied with just sex dolls or not... If they only wanted sex dolls then they could easily pay rent to access one. Hell, even prostitution already exists, yet, you still see the incel problem.... These men want validation and feelings of worthiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 01:33 PM
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Still, Bisexual women are a huge number and there are significant evolutionary incentives for women to be Bisexual, such as ease of being in a Polygamy with the Alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 01:27 PM
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You are also ignoring the fact that male variability is also about how genes are expressed not just the genes themselves. Sure, bottom tier men are below bottom tier women, but those bottom tier men probably got their genes from their mothers, as there are no filters for women. Nearly all women get to breed if they want to, because of lack of filters. To think of it, so many women got to pass on their bad genes into humanity, which wouldn't have happened at all, if they were men with those same …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 01:18 PM
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I think those are basically other words to describe eugenics.... You are assuming that women have the capacity to determine whether a man's genes are beneficial to the species or not. You are also assuming that their preferences have updated over time. They haven't. Most of the females are still looking for their ripped and athletic male hunter gatherer (but low intelligence) even if they live in industrialized high tech countries. Sapiosexuality is bullshit, it doesn't really exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 01:10 PM
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Women don't want to compete, neither with each other nor with men. It's not in their biology. They would rather be in a polygamous bisexual relationship with other women and an alpha male instead of competing with other women for a monogamous relationship with the alpha male. The contestants of the Bachelor Australia and Vietnam chose to go homo with each other instead of compete over a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 01:07 PM
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Of course, duh....but wouldn't some of them wish that they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 01:04 PM
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Who determines fitness ? The women who are still attracted to cave men with no brains, big dick and tons of muscles ? Is that really fitness in today's time ? Have women updated their selection filter with changing times or are they still looking for the same old hunter gatherer male ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:59 PM
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Males want a wife and children not a sex doll. A sex doll cannot produce children for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:55 PM
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But the thing is....they don't need to rely on just incels, if they can convince most males besides the elites (top 10 to 20 %) that (A) There is a serious problem with the current system (B) There are at a disadvantage because of that problem or because the system is rigged against them (C) A better system with these XYZ changes is definitely possible where they would be having less disadvantage, then I'm pretty sure that a shit ton of males will join the Bandwagon. The theories, hypothesis and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:51 PM
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BTW the imbalanced sex ratio really prevents feminism from gaining ground in China.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:43 PM
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It's not a modernizing direction. It's your country being hijacked by Liberals and globalist businessmen. Become a Neo Reactionary already
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:56 AM
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Well, Asian countries seem to violata that pattern because they have technology as well as their traditional patriarchy. China, Japan, Singapore, Korea.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:56 AM
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Can't say, some lesbians are very much man like, minus the chromosomes, testosterone and genitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:13 AM
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The opposite of anarchy is the solution. A massive central govt which ensures that maximum number of men get the opportunity to mate. They can do this by policing and regulating the interactions between the people of opposite sex instead of letting people do as they please.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:11 AM
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Women still need men in non western countries. Don't assume that the West is the only place where humans exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:09 AM
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That's literally what the Communist Revolution has been about....find the wealthy and powerful Chads and eliminate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:08 AM
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Producing people is not what makes humans special, every other female can do the same for it's species. What makes humans special is civilization and being organized to achieve their goals. It is organized warfare, industry, system of ownership, knowledge and trades, which make humans special. Roman Military general did much more for their civilization than what the average Roman housewife did. I'm pretty sure the history of human civilization is prime facie evidence that men can very well be an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:07 AM
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Progress might diminish the female need for men, but clearly the Govt and the economy still continue to be in the need of men and in the end, the behemoths like the institution of the organized central govt and powerful corporations will eventually win over the will of the average individual feminist. It's just that currently the corporations find it more convenient to support the feminists because they believe that immigration is the answer to low fertility rates and they aren't currently facin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:03 AM
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Well, you can go the China way and establish an authoritarian central govt which takes absolute power in exchange for regulating the dating market and making things better for the average man. If not then you are going to lose anyways, because patriarchal cultures would continue to have high fertility rates whereas the western world would suffer from below replacement population growth. You might also expect something like the Taliban to arise in the western world because the tons of single and …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:59 AM
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They are correct about the nature of society when everyone is free and how men and women don't have it equal when it comes to wanting to have a partner, children and family. They are right that women have it way easy when it comes to having children and finding a dude to impregnate them. Human history is full of Polygamy and humankind has a lot more female ancestors than it has male ones. It has been accepted that in hunter gatherer times, very very few men were successful in passing on their ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:55 AM
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Umm.....there are tons ways to instantly kill tons of people without making then feel any pain. Take cyanide for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:45 AM
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Yeah, quite a stretch, but theoretically, it would be much much easier to produce zygote using two eggs than two sperms because of mitochondria and other issues. Single sex species also exist in some reptiles like Lizards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:38 AM
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Men becoming obsolete and replaceable is the problem. Thanks to industrial, sexual and medical technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:35 AM
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Let's imagine a hypothetical scenario where Science has found a way for women to reproduce with each other, i.e. use two eggs to create a zygote. Now lesbians and bisexual women use this technology to create their own biologically related families and feminists are advocating for the existence of some female only societies like the island of wonder woman. The number of males in society eventually start declining as most women wouldn't intentionally want to have them, the few who do, would be for…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:33 AM
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Well, let's imagine a hypothetical scenario where Science has found a way for women to reproduce with each other, i.e. use two eggs to create a zygote. Now lesbians and bisexual women use this technology to create their own biologically related families and feminists are advocating for the existence of some female only societies like the island of wonder woman. The number of males in society eventually start declining as most women wouldn't intentionally want to have them, the few who do, would …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:18 AM
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OLD ? Online Dating ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:45 AM
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Yeah, the problem is that they are having a monopoly over the child production in human society. Whereas sperms are cheap, abundant and can even be obtained for free. We can simply ban sperm donations and such procedures until and unless the artificial wombs technology is developed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:35 AM
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All rights are man made and artificial. Desiring a wife, biological children and a continuation of your lineage/family name is not the same as getting your dick wet. Islamic countries and authoritarian, conservative societies already exist. The liberal west is not the only place where humans live. There is also East Asia with soft patriarchy like China, Japan, Korea and Singapore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:33 AM
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Such societies will lose out to patriarchal societies having good fertility. Another solution is a massive central govt like China which regulates dating apps and how people meet the opposite sec.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 01:44 AM
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So why are they ashamed of being identified with collectivists ? Why do they have to pretend to be individualists ?
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