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Question For WomenHistorical-Agency334/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:12 PM
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Jay Z isn't that ugly, and he's tall and masculine looking.Hes like a butterface
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 12:39 PM
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lol I try to go on more platonic dates with girls and they make it all sexual. like most girls on there are bored if nothing sexual is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 12:38 PM
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im not trolling. sure some women care about those things but most just want a hot guy. By your standards I would be "swimming in pussy" because of my education and finances, but im obviously not
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 03:49 AM
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girls on bumble 9/10 text "hey" or some variation of that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 03:45 AM
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No, they wouldn't, I know from first hand experience. Also jawline exercises are a meme, your jaw is determined mostly by genetics and hormones. The only way to improve your face is through cosmetic or maxillofacial surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 03:42 AM
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I am amazed at how frequently people on here overestimate the importance of education, humor, and personality for a guy. Those things are probably less than 10% of a guys attractiveness, the other 90% or so being physical features such as facial features, height, and muscle mass.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 03:38 AM
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lol no, most attractive girls dont care at all and just want an attractive guy. As a guy those things are irrelevant unless you are good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 03:33 AM
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No I'm a man, I have very strong education, humor, and finances. It doesn't matter without looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 03:31 AM
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they were all ugly who cares
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 03:23 AM
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Balding is going to be cured via gene therapy or hair cloning within the next 50 years. Right now it is close to a death sentence for guys unless you have a well above average face or height. It won't be a factor in developed countries much longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 03:21 AM
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it's literally all about looks, almost none of those qualities matter for either gender
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 03:14 AM
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LOL no, you wouldn't be. Those things literally don't matter in either gender
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 03:14 AM
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Cosmetic surgery, fancy car and home, curated social media, and fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:11 PM
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good to see mrs degree twitter account is taking off lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:09 PM
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fun, pleasant, personality, low n count, and good looks. thats it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:01 PM
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Of course, I already have trouble finding women why would I be limiting myself lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 01:21 AM
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thanks. ill try. most of my hobbies are male dominated
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 09:08 PM
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I did, this date I got turned off by how she didnt seem interested though. She's cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 08:46 PM
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idk she didnt respond to my last text
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 08:20 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:44 PM
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damn who are you I like it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:24 PM
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2nd date didnt go well, she was kind of distant and I tried but tbh it was turning me off too
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:22 PM
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nah she's not interested in me I think
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:22 PM
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my best friends dont live in the same city as me and the ones that do all are married and stuff. I don't have people to do things with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:21 PM
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fit, cute, and share a similar view of life and goals
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:21 PM
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It gets harder to be single when you get older
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:20 PM
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the sad thing for me is im pretty much maxed out my looks, fashion, job/money, status, and still have no success with women, although I can sometimes land dates. It's such a struggle I see why mgtow is popular but its so lonely all the time. I could get surgery eventually to increase my looks. that's the only other thing I can even try
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:15 PM
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I only go the park, store and work, at work I am way too conservative to date anyone there. Store or park is possible but I would have to randomly approach and its kind of weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 04:08 PM
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I told her im pretty religious, looking for something serious etc etc I think she knows that im not looking for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:39 PM
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Yes if we got along but none of them would want to date me anyway because I am more conservative than they are
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:36 PM
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where should guys even meet women? If I wasn't on OLD I would go entire years without meeting a girl
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:34 PM
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yeah I might try for one more date to see if she changes, it seemed like maybe she was just tired and having a bad day. but im done simping lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:32 PM
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I dont care about hooking up
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:30 PM
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every day
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:30 PM
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second date with the trad girl didnt go as well. not sure why, she seemed more cold than last time. she even said something along the lines that she is cold/distant. She's definitely a virgin, but I'm probably just going to drop it. back to the sweet corporate life grind. I love money
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 02:46 PM
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That's one way to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 11:29 PM
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get rich or die trying boys
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 11:20 PM
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isnt it just an abortion ban after 6 weeks?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 08:56 PM
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yeah if I dont have kids I could retire at 30 lol. kids are great if you can have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 01:33 AM
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yeah coparent you have kids together but aren't married or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 12:37 AM
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never had a hooker Im guessing they suck but its something to spend your money on lmao you could coparent
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 12:27 AM
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yeah. my backup plan if I dont find a wife is to have children through a surrogate and bang hookers when im sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 12:21 AM
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working 15 hour days starting next week fuck my life so fun being BB taxes suck ass
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 12:07 AM
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who cares lol. be the AF if you can, if not be the BB and cheat lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 12:06 AM
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status is irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:54 PM
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Thats so stupid, what if a guy only dates virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 02:00 AM
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it was kinda weird
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 01:54 AM
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I am. Not a fetish but I want to marry a virgin. I am one as well so it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 12:42 AM
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If you ar a virgin then its cool he should be cool with that. Guys dont like when you make one guy wait but not others
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 12:38 AM
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my hot take it that MGTOW (sent) men can live a good life without women, via coping, escorts, and surrogates. The issue is they need money,
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 12:25 AM
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My work recently started in person and I have to say, height is really big advantadge. I'm well over 6 ft and half of my coworkers commented on my height in some way, like they didn't think I was so tall, etc. My date last weekend also commented how she was surprised (pleasantly) at how tall I was. My face is very average but my height helps a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 11:58 PM
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are you conservative or liberal at some point you just have to talk about I t
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 11:46 PM
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lol uh sure I go to church and that is completely false. most of the hot girls are not anywhere near a church
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:50 AM
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How early is early? Like second date?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:50 AM
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Yeah I want to hear her first without me influencing her
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 09:20 PM
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its not that important its more like a dealbreaker if they're too woke to the point its annoying and dogmatic. Like if she's apolitical that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 07:49 PM
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true I guess ye's verse is the bigger surprise its fire
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 07:48 PM
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yep
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 07:47 PM
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lol I might be the annoyingly right wing guy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 07:47 PM
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good point
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 03:09 PM
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off the grid goes fucking hard who knew carti and fivio would absolutely kill it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 02:08 PM
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church but they won't be hot probably time to got mgt*** my bro unless u get a unicorn. See u in hell for the sequel
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 02:06 PM
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when to ask about politics...better to bring it up earlier?? I just can't deal with any liberal woke person so might as well right? Second date a good idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 01:58 PM
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artificial wombs
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 04:22 AM
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post pics lets see you LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 04:17 AM
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holy shit really??hahah thats so cheep. imma have 100 kids
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:44 AM
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she's a tinder girl who cares. ask her about music and then invite her over to listen to it or some shit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:14 AM
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not true at all did you see Jesus is King. That shit was panned
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:12 AM
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...only if you decide to? Lots of trad marriages are not that expensive. Especially middle class ones. I'm sure as hell not spending that much on marriage and any girl I date will know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 11:20 PM
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why would it cost that much to get married to a virgin lol. sounds like you can't imagine finding a hot, down to earth virgin girl and just accept marrying a non virgin. or you just can't get one
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 11:16 PM
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waiting multiple years to marry someone is stupid too
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:56 PM
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I mean yeah thats when you get a new girl
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:46 PM
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you know trad people usually get married fast so they dont have to wait long right
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:45 PM
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lol just give in to what other people want bro
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:43 PM
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reddit doesn't like him because he supported trump
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:38 PM
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I disagree, come to life, pure souls, moon, are all good Kanye songs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:38 PM
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listen to come to life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yblfMrUeiP4 and listen to off the grid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbDMNjT-QpI both Kanye songs from his newest album his new music is a mix of trap, drill, gospel music. its unique
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:35 PM
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thats irrelevant to what you want tho
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:31 PM
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yes people on here just can't imagine it they are so sex addicted
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:30 PM
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you think Kevin Samuels aged badly? he looks incredibly young for his age
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:29 PM
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True, I want kids though. I might go surrogacy instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:05 PM
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My top 5 are: come to life no child left behind jail praise god believe what I say
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:04 PM
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666
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:04 PM
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how the fuck do you marry someone who fucked other people
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:03 PM
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this guy acts like its hard to tell if she's good in bed or something. news flash. if she's hot, likes you, and not a mindless robot she will be good in bed. And most religious couples cheat a little and go pretty far before wedding night. I would be fine with having sex with a virgin wife before our marriage if we were engaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:02 PM
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??? They are all rich still. They were just abusers/cheaters/murderrs, that's completely different. Obviously I would never abuse or cheat on anyone. ​ My point is that once you have enough money, losing half isn't the worst thing ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 09:55 PM
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Yeah I don't like trap music but Donda has some good songs. It's a little too long honestly that's my biggest gripe. Come to life is beautiful tho
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 08:06 PM
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Remarry younger probably
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 08:02 PM
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exactly, the market dictates prices
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 08:02 PM
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come to life is better than ultralight beam, I said it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 08:01 PM
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come to life is the best song by a mainstream artist in years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yblfMrUeiP4 say what you want about Kanye I dont know any musicians who play GD anthem at their concerts who make shit like this
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:57 PM
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only the biggest album of the year besides drake
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:54 PM
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this for my kid kid kids
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:52 PM
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you don't like yeezus?? do you like Donda?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:51 PM
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True Kanye is like purple pill sub in the flesh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:51 PM
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what's your favorite song on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:50 PM
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Me on this sub: dont marry a girl who isn't a virgin every comment: how dare you demand a virgin when you aren't a virgn I literally am a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:49 PM
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Mid tier ye album around 808s level I like the older sound more than trap but this exceeded my expectations. even as just an ok Kanye album its more interesting than most pop music
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:48 PM
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I plan on being rich enough that it won't matter. But you make a good point, however her income would be pretty much irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:43 PM
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yeah its too early right now
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:40 PM
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fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:40 PM
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we all born alone and we die alone, can't take anything to the grave with you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:39 PM
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She's more valuable working at home. I make twice as much as her and she's a year older...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:38 PM
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done
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:37 PM
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im gonna simmmmmppppppp
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:37 PM
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Then leave...you aren't obligated to stay with anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 02:30 AM
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Yeah I think part of it has to do with financial independence, she mentioned she's been working hard to graduate debt free (which is great). This is actually solid advice I didn't think about so thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 02:29 AM
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You are descirbing trad cons not red pillers. They overlap a little but are not mutually exclusive, in fact most trad cons are blue pilled. Some do, but some like to "enjoy the decline" I am more traditional and would like to find a traditional woman. But I don't think modernity is all bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 02:17 AM
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You should have made it clear when you became official that you expect regular sex and that intimacy is important to you. If that's not happening, move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 02:11 AM
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It actually went way better than I expected, she was actually insanely cute and we clicked just like we did over text. Def the best 1st date ive ever had and we already both agreed on a second. Im not sure why, she comes from a more middle class background and she seems really driven to success professionally, somewhat like myself although I come from an upper class background.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 02:02 AM
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This is a long way away but if we get serious I want to talk to her about eventually being a stay at home mom. And I think she knows I make a lot more than she could make in terms of income.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 01:24 AM
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Why would you marry a girl who is not a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 12:38 AM
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How to get a mostly trad girl to be open to being more traditional (aka be a stay at home mom instead of working) or is it not worth it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 12:37 AM
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No, I asked if she had dated anyone in so far in college she said no and I highly doubt she would hookup with a guy. We kissed and made out a little but nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 12:34 AM
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her boyfriend is a HVM hurricane value male it means you dont leave him if there's a hurricane
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 11:43 PM
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date with trad unicorn went well. Not sure what her N count is but im guessing its quite low and hopefully 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 11:08 PM
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Is there data on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 03:41 PM
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religious but idk how religious
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 03:41 PM
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I think a lot of guys would keep their current girl, assuming she has a good personality, but also have chicks on the side. And I think this fo over 50 percent of men. A few would keep their girl, the rest would abandon her and live the bachelor life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 03:40 PM
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why would anyone hate themselves? Disappointed, sad maybe but hate is kind of over the top and emotional. what's blue pilled about it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 04:34 AM
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Not trying to compensate looks with wealth. It's to replace dating with money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 04:33 AM
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not tech, not even close. If you can code C++, functional, know algorithms, security, and OS inside and out, you can get a job at a FAANG no matter what you look like
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 04:32 AM
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are white girls less curvy on average or something? id like to see the research on that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 04:31 AM
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date with trad unicorn tomorrow wish me luck only issue is she's a little less curvy than I like 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 03:49 AM
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It's easier than being attractive for many people, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 03:46 AM
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It's not rigged, although if you were born poor its going to be a lot harder
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 03:46 AM
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I've been reflecting more about my beliefs since my entrance to the corporate world. I think the solution to the b**** pill for inkwells is (drumroll).... Wealth and money and with it, freedom and power. Yes if you are ugly/short/bald you cannot buy genuine attraction. Accept it. But at the end of the day, you can accept that, get dozens of hookers, get a surrogate if you want kids, and kind of just enjoy life as much as you can from a weird, humorist, existentialist, and nihilistic perspective.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 03:05 AM
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No. It's considered part of the job. If you don't like it, someone else will take it. It's the price you pay for wanting to be a 1 percent
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 02:23 PM
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Being thrown into the corporate world has rapidly changed my view on life I didn't have even 2 months ago. Turns out some 6 figure jobs are demanding, working late hours is boring and dull even if my job is more interesting than most. Calling my friends at 1 am and they still have slide decks to do for their boss. Working 80 hr weeks. I can see where guys just focus on work to get away from life. It's a drug. And I have more sympathy for guys who get prostitutes now too. I see how once real life…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:53 PM
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This is completely useless. If you think any billionaire male with a sex drive is not having sex with dozens of 20-30 year old women every month you are delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:45 PM
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if short guys start doing that then tall guys will too
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:44 PM
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...why are you married to her
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:41 PM
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just had a very interesting hookup with a girl afterwards she was telling me how many guys she banged (in the 20s) she said she remember one guy who also went to my college who had a small dick. she saw my look of terror and said I was fine lol. She was chubby too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 04:03 AM
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be 666. im talking to one right now the only issue is im not sure if I find her hot enough
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:26 PM
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honestly this is true. men are probably still attracted to the average woman though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 10:43 PM
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he should have blasted dutasteride
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 09:56 PM
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careful with that language I got banned for that kind of stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 09:23 PM
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idk about how black men are doing (im not black) I can tell black women seem more interested in actually meeting me off a dating app than white women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 09:21 PM
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6'2 white guy with German genes from the midwest here, can confirm I am average among my friends, maybe slightly below average. my mother's side average is 6'4 (German), my fathers side average is 6'0 in the midwest, 6'4-6'5 is considered tall
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 09:18 PM
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depends if she has a better chest or butt but its GOAT tier position along with doggy, doggy is probably #1
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 08:55 PM
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for a normal person you need stellar grades and test scores to get into the ivy tier schools, its assumed if you are applying to these schools you have close to a 4.0 and 1600/36 as well as great letters of rec and extracurriculars However you can get in with less than stellar grades if you are an athlete, have a compelling life story, or have a parent with a ton of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 08:53 PM
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nah its definitely young people lol. my college had tons of secret parties and stuff and its a liberal AF school
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 08:51 PM
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I can already feel the madonna-whore thing coming on to me with this one trad unicorn chick, she's objectively cute and adorable but I couldn't get it off to her photos
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 08:49 PM
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you voted in who? the president? who then runs the entire executive branch. did you vote in the Secretary of State? the secretary of commerce? the secretary of defense? did you vote in your local IRS executives? your local park rangers? local law enforcement? this is not a democracy and its not meant to be. country is way too large to be a true democracy anyway. its only democratic element is the election of representatives which is essentially a demographic poll of senators.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 01:46 AM
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wasn't the original job of the Supreme Court, determining constitutionality of amendments for example. thats just one branch the legislative and executive branches are also mired in bureaucracy. the will of the people is purposely suppressed in the american system. what is there to argue
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 01:40 AM
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obviously not race baiting lil nas x for example is like a 9
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 01:37 AM
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or made a significant interpretation of the constitution, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 01:13 AM
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I love Bradley Cooper, mostly because I can sort of see myself in him (he's much hotter but there is a small resemblance). He's a 10 in my book
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 12:47 AM
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just off the top of my head dred scott roe v wade brown v board plessy smith employment sebelius Lochner v new york Marbury v madison yoder griswold wickard filburn pp vs casey you are the delusional one
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 12:42 AM
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not a 10. he's like a 9
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 12:36 AM
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im not willing to spend more than 100K
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 12:31 AM
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for example the SC self interpreted to have power to strike down laws of congress. mind you SC justices are not held accountable to the people except by recall which has never happened. us hasn't been a democracy in over 200 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 12:30 AM
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the truth is once you are past an 8 or so, it becomes VERY subjective. Some women think David Gandy is the hottest thing ever, some like Jason Mamoa. Both are insanely hot, like 99.99% tile or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 12:21 AM
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how much do they/you care about being from the same culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 12:09 AM
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true. who knows men can be attracted to a whole lot of things
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:59 PM
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do you meet those requirements?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:58 PM
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im a man and I have 0 attraction to her. I dont think I could get it hard with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:54 PM
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because men are wired to be attracted to literally all women ages 18-40. Unless she is super fat, she can have kids, and is fertile = attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:51 PM
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Ironic the US isn't even a democracy or close to one
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:49 PM
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this is gold. thanks for the help. Should I be more masculine around her? I've been way too soft over text, fuck. I think she might actually be a virgin too. I pretty much have already hinted that I think she might be marriage material. do they care more or less about face, height, and income?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:48 PM
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also close to a 9. I think Hemsworth is slightly more attractive than Evans.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:46 PM
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arent they in school...?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:37 PM
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sounds like a plate lol. guessing she's lower class too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:36 PM
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are you poor
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:35 PM
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why were we even there. waste of money. taxation is theft is not a meme
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:32 PM
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would you say eastern european girls are more trad and likely to be a virgin? this girl im going on a date with is from a Eastern European county but moved to the US when she was young (still speaks the language). can you do a Eastern European AMA?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:31 PM
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I'd say Henry Cavill, Brad Pitt, Chris Hemsworth are all around a 9 the only 10 is christian bale. not really but he's my man crush
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:20 PM
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what is it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:19 PM
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ill tell her I want her for dinner
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:06 PM
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it is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:06 PM
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she just texted. im getting laid with a cougar holy shit this is going to be fun
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:56 PM
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I find both of those women to be very hot. you're probably fine I bet you have a pretty face. and worse case scenario you can always put on weight and get a big butt
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:55 PM
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girls looking for husband can message me as well. my requirements are: ages18-22 pretty face OR average face and feminine body (hips, chest, etc) low n count (less than 3, only in relationships) want children, stay at home mom and home school, domestic work, and lots of sex my qualifications im "666" and slightly above average face. income will be much higher in the future with 7 figures a realistic possibility want children loving father and husband (can switch between blue and red pill)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:47 PM
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nice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:43 PM
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guys dont say no to small boobs, they're still boobs, but the preference is pretty much universal. because it indicates sexual maturity and fertility. unless you pull of the cute/hot look like Emily willis.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:41 PM
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thanks bro
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:35 PM
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Upper middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:35 PM
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they would all look way more attractive with big boobs. goes to show how important boobs are for attraction. an average face girl with big boobs could literally be more attractive than Kiera knightly who has one of the best faces in all of Hollywood imo. once your face is good enough its all about body (women and men) also the cutesy look those are horrible examples. Emily willis is a much better example of a small chested girl who is universally considered hot and she goes for the "cute" look m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:28 PM
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drop the income requirement and add a n count requirement and this is a good list. I would date up to 5'9-5'10.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:23 PM
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yeah but do they like innocent boy toys or more mature old for their age boy toys
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:21 PM
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what do you mean lol? im not underage
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:20 PM
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depends on background but for many yes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:14 PM
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no big boobs are really taking off right now im pretty sure most gen z guys are boob guys. I feel bad for small boob women tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:14 PM
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matched with a woman 16 years older than me and we're flirting. should I act more blue pill? cause she expects me to be innocent?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:07 PM
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not true, although they aren't called unicorns for nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:06 PM
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im pretty good at sniffing those out but if she is then ill dump her ass in a second im not a chump
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:02 PM
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date set for next week with trad unicorn
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 08:20 PM
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yeah im about to lose it honestly im done waiting. next time im not stopping at third base.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 04:41 PM
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im a virgin because of religion. im not 26 yet though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 01:03 AM
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No id just get a prostitute if I was.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 12:54 AM
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from the local dating app scene, it seems like Indian girls are the hottest. It's crazy how curvy they seem compared to the other races.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 12:52 AM
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assuming everything else is normal and the couple is young: If there are kids I would first try to make it work with sex outside of marriage. No kids, divorce should be imminent and it sounds like a failed relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 10:25 PM
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texts with potential trad pick me girl are progressing well if she's a virgin she might be wifey material but I won't be simping
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 10:18 PM
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the virgin chad US military vs the chad sigma Taliban
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 08:53 PM
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oh 2011? that makes more sense
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 08:27 PM
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I think it was for blackpill content. it was stupid but I was spending too much time on reddit so I didnt fight it .
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 08:26 PM
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this guy acts like its some amazing thing. its just a normal salary for a college grad. he's not a high achiever at all
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 08:06 PM
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looking for a wife mostly to have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 08:02 PM
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120K at 32 is not good lol wtf im you aren't going to party you might as well try to make some real fucking money not average money
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 07:59 PM
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rule 11 violation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 07:34 PM
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ppd
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 07:33 PM
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1 month ban has been served!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:00 PM
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when you've been lonely your whole life you dont really miss it
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 10:39 PM
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I did a poll on that recently, approximately 33 percent were sent. Look at my post history. In reality its more complicated because a lot of men can get some women but not the ones they want, makes sense?
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 04:36 PM
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So you need a shelter, an energy source, and money for food. Starlink if you want internet. And you also probably need health insurance. You could do it for a few 100K I think depending on where you live.
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 05:55 PM
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You're gonna need a lot more than that. welding is good tho. Good start 👍👍
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 05:44 PM
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Just the amount of money you save from not drinking is enough to make me quit, add on the health benefits, it's just a no brainer. I still have one drink every month or so.
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 05:43 PM
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I would add develop a skill
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 05:41 PM
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one time at a family reunion my grandmother asked me why I didnt have a gf, my female cousin said she could set me up with one of her friends. Then her brother said "I don't think [my name] wants one of your friends" and laughed.
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 04:11 PM
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Surrogacy bro!!
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 03:59 PM
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It's natural but I make sure to never be too attached. I get oneitis when I think a girl is a unicorn. Eventually as you get older it will go away.
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 03:58 PM
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over the years? literally millions.
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 03:57 PM
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Not if he is jacked. Thats where muscle > lean. Roids. One sample size is pretty bad. Lots of guys can look masculine AF bald and slay. Also OLD is always harder than real life. Social circle is key
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:42 AM
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For relationships its clear that things other than looks come into play, particularly income. Education is related to income. This is where the AF/BB narrative comes from because it doesn't seem like those things matter for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:32 AM
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there's an "education" section in the bio
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:29 AM
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Honestly think you are overboard with the baldness, guys I see getting laid all the time have some recession going on. Full baldness yeah is bad but recession is normal af. if you have a feminine face or you are short its bad. I'm tall and masculine looking so im not worried about baldness as much. and lean + muscle is the best look
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:24 AM
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5 years of work for a lifetime of benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:12 AM
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For dating? looks come first. then personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:10 AM
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We can just disagree. I think paying for sex is the ultimate simp move.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:10 AM
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how is a free hookup paying. explain
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:03 AM
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yeah I wouldn't pay for any, reddit is all the entertainment I need
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:01 AM
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One is fixing a flaw in your apperance and one is paying women to have sex. How is that anything alike?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:00 AM
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20K is maybe lowballing, depends if you can get insurance to cover jaw surgery and the like. Some guys just have one or two things that ruin the aesthetics like a wonky nose or something. Hair system is cringe and its better to get more jacked if you go bald than try to hide it. But most guys can preserve with fin and keep a close shave. I dont agree with the just being lean you need muscles too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:55 AM
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Lol thats still simping you are literally admitting to be inferior to other guys who have sex with them for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:51 AM
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cringe and simp weren't you the guy complaining about no matches on OLD?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:50 AM
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its the validation that comes from casual sex tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:36 AM
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paying is simp
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:35 AM
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how tall are you, how much do you make, how much do you bench, and what is your face on a scale of 1-10 would you hookup with a woman over your bodyweight
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:29 AM
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Because most people aren't motivated enough they are satisfied with dull comforts like televesion, weed, or reddit. they aren't spending their time as efficiently as they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:26 AM
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Sounds like a huge waste of money
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:23 AM
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lol hey there
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:19 AM
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Considering you are 5'6 and are a chad in Brazil, things are different here than Brazil ok haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:16 AM
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I lowered my standards because I wasn't interested in a LTR with these women. I bought hinge premium and just started liking. Any girl I thought I found attractive enough, and as a young guy I was liking a lot. I got 200 matches in few weeks. I set up consistent dates with just average looking girls, some were a little chubby. Most were free, walk in the park or coffee. Usually they would be down for a hookup by the end of it or date 2. A few just came over to my place. Then I found one girl I l…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:13 AM
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Of course I take it consistently
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:09 AM
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In the US? Yes or at least get a lot of muscle
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:57 PM
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bwahahaahhaha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:52 PM
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He could do all of this and then go Kenya and get 5000 matches a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:52 PM
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Unironically yes. Luxuries are just that, luxuries. My friends making 170K out of college is working and sleeps in the office lmao you think its easy to just be rich? Unless you are born wealthy you have to work for it or create something people pay for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:50 PM
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I actually agree. Actually I can't decide. I love both
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:47 PM
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Im not a chad at all and at one point I was banging a new girl every week. I reckon my more attractive friends could do 3 a week easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:45 PM
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You aren't as above average as you think then or you are picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:43 PM
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Im not saying it is. I'm saying it's possible. Average men don't want to do the work and would rather just complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:43 PM
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Lol sorry your advice doesn't work for an actually average guy. You have no clue what you are talking about dental care can't fix jaw malocclusions in adulthood
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:42 PM
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Lol sure. You have a good face or something
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:40 PM
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Average guys complain endlessly about sexual frustration. Here is their answer. They don't want to put in the work and time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:40 PM
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This isn't necessarily for me its just an option. MGTOW is a good path too but you can do both.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:39 PM
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Beards my theory is that while some dont like it, the ones that do, really do, and its dimorphic and masculine so its good. I would recommend minox/fin as well but really if hair is taking you from attractive to unattractive you weren't that attractive in the first place. So you need to get jacked. bald and muscular is a good look almost like a porn star lmao Yes minoxidil I should add a disclaimer can age your face so be careful about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:38 PM
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To each their own, im not saying you have to do this, but it is possible
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:35 PM
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not saying you have to do that. Why not steroids first and get muscles?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:24 PM
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r/MGTOW2 But before that you can try surgery for your face Or moving to Asia Or steroids
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:19 PM
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Sure but this is without paying
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:15 PM
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To get laid? definitely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:14 PM
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For dinner dates? a sport coat is excellent. 5K for the gym, protein shakes, roids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:13 PM
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I felt like I was stringing her along so I stopped it. but yeah she loved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:12 PM
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top tier guys no they dont have to middle tier yes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:10 PM
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Age?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:06 PM
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I said 4 years. So save up 30K over 4 years = 7.5K a year. Living on 50K is easy. I never said it was worth it, I said it was possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:01 PM
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What if you make them cum more than once 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:03 PM
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wow I never saw that before Can regnerus be trusted tho and is regnerus taking into account casual sex vs relationship sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:57 PM
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The issue is that when people think monogamy vs polygamy they are assuming it is with the same quality man, in which case I think most women would take monogamy. But if the options for monogamy are frankly worse than the polygamist men then it's not so clear that women wouldn't rather be polygamous. And more women are raising children single.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:53 PM
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True and women are free to reject those men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:43 PM
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is there a correlation between height and facial symmetry
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:27 PM
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45k is actually above the median income reddit is full of UMC people who think the average is like 80k lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:25 PM
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Nah I wouldn't marry an OF girl guys don't like their girls to do that stuff its looked down on
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:08 PM
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Im not red more black pill but I dont hate only fans girls at all. I think the simps that pay for their "content" is so stupid and pathetic though. If I was a hot girl I would be exploiting these weak minded idiotic simps for all the cash I can get. its literally just free money. Any man who pays for sex or porn or anything like that (strip clubs) is a total loser in my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 07:52 PM
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I would def marry A asap
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 07:31 PM
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So Q4Women: Body hair: Sexy? Gross? Does nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 05:05 PM
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That's true. If you are confident and think the market is overreacting, I would advise not investing more than 10 percent of your total investments into your own judgements. Usually this should be in a separate account. Then you can scratch the itch but not be burned.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 05:01 PM
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Well you need money first or a job that you can work remotely.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 04:59 PM
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I like talking to some of the women like smurf but some of them I dont because I feel like they dont understand men at all
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:47 PM
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Sex with the goat
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:44 PM
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A is like my dream girl as long as once we are married the sex is good. Assuming they are both attractive. I wouldn't mind waiting. Not kissing is weird though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:30 PM
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I think monogamy is natural for humans but not life long. Like shorter periods of a 5-10 years to raise children past the child stage. Remember humans used to live shorter lives and women were having kids since 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:26 PM
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Do you have a skill, a degree? A job? Are you in debt? Investing and saving while you are young basically guarantees financial freedom when you are older.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 04:21 AM
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it was a fake apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 03:36 AM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 03:28 AM
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I have my app preferences set for 18-23. I am only a year older than her. I would be fine with an older woman if she is a cute virgin trad at age 25-27. Not sure if I would ever go higher than that but maybe I'll be more desperate then and not enjoying the MGTOW life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 03:26 AM
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the worst feeling is uncertainty if ill ever find one who likes me not getting my hopes up
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 03:13 AM
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well or you could just have more than 2-3 kids. not like you have to follow human nature exactly. if your partner is attractive and or resource rich enough I think the costs of leaving are worse than the benefits of genetic diversification
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 03:06 AM
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got another bite on hinge. looking like a trad girl and she's cute. already got her number. things are looking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 03:01 AM
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Survivorship bias. All the people who tried it, thought they understand tech, and didn't do as well aren't posting. Maybe you are a superior investor, maybe you are lucky. The average guy should invest in ETFs and total market.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 03:00 AM
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Newsweek said it was fake I think Netflix likes the controversy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 02:47 AM
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Thats just how OLD dating is. I have the same experience. you'll do better in person
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 02:39 AM
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Netflix definitely would CGI/prostethetic it to make millions off of stupid thirst
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:45 AM
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was it even real? I heard it was CGI or prosthetic and the show runner wouldn't say its real
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:38 AM
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great content I think you are close to the truth, humans are hypergamously monogamous with polygamous "serial monogamy" tendencies, especially the most attractive males. Something like serial hypergamous monogamy where both sides are with the best partner they can get until they continue on their own ways after sex and a baby or two and find a new partner
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:34 AM
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people overrate themselves. if you aren't getting matches on tinder you are less than a 6 because im like a 6 and I get matches
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:31 AM
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im not even ugly but im not hot. luckily surgery exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:32 AM
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no pun intended ha
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:37 PM
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Obesity is the biggest problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:15 PM
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you're less than 7 bro you are probably like a 5. Tho tinder has gotten even harder for even above average guys dude to Tinder Gold nonsense where they basically dont show you if you dont pay for the premium
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:07 PM
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It's because of correlations. Richer guys are less likely to be obese, taller guys more likely to be rich. ETC. I'm pretty sure this isn't accounting for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:05 PM
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Considering im "6-6-6" actually more than 6 in all those categories and have less than desirable options...it is apparently not unrealistic because all of these women are passing me up Also this site is wrong because of correlations between the categories (not independent events). still funny AF tho im apparently a .06% catch but can't get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 10:59 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/datingoverthirty/comments/okpfhb/started_the_pandemic_at_an_optimistic_33yo_now_35/ How do some people not understand it's not about looking old, it's about fertility. At 35 you are on a biological clock if you want children. If you don't want children, then it's cool, but then a lot of guys are going to say no thanks. "I'm 35 and I'm basically the same I was 7 years ago". No, you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 09:25 PM
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He should divorce and move on unless he got fat or something. If he looks the same then it's over.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 09:14 PM
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probably south Asia or Africa because im tall and I would tower over everyone there and being light skinned is looked upon favorably in those parts of the world so basically women would be more interested in me than they are in my home country
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 09:00 PM
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why doesn't he make 150K a year like billy...he just likes to watch sports and he only makes 50K at his construction job...our credit card debt is never paid and we can't get a new car
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 05:41 PM
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Millenials for sure it's so weird and gen z makes fun of them so much lol
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 05:30 PM
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Id be worried about the STDs honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:13 PM
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Yeah I am somewhat is a death sentence. I sometimes stop but then I get bored or horny and do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:48 PM
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then what's the issue? just fix your flaws and you are fine. my advice still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:52 AM
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tbh you sound like another larping fakecel. get jaw surgery and some implants. 6'1 and not on steroids is a disgrace if you are actually an incel. Get to 225, bench 250 1 rep max and come back again. if you were a trucel you wouldn't be posting this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:48 AM
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It's all good haha. I have learned to never get my hopes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:46 AM
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surgery and steroids my dude. and learn to enjoy chubbier women. you'll be fine. Most men are not trucels after they max with surgery, steroids, fashion, and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:42 AM
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considering she hasn't replied im afraid your theory is correct. I might have to lower my standards to get some more matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:41 AM
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Sort of? At the younger ages its still for hookups, for example Ive met multiple women on it expecting a regular date and they all wanted to hookup. For 18-22 year old women it seems like every app is for hookups. I feel bad for the women who actually want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:37 AM
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lol let me have this one
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:36 AM
2

The worst pill is realizing that most black pill, incels who post that shit online aren't truly incels. A lot are "fakecels" who just don't like the quality of the women they attract. Realizing that you are a "true-cel" amongst a legion of normal ish guys who are more or less faking it. That is brutal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:32 AM
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I don't consider mormons to be christian tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:21 AM
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No as long as she is christian and comes from a christian fam it's good. I'm not too concerned with denominations really. But she might be. Basically if she believes in the Nicene creed then our beliefs are compatible to a large extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:18 AM
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Learn a skill, craft. I know tree cutters making bank, there was a trucker on here who was making 100K. The most tried and true path to that much money is a degree though, preferably in a STEM subject.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 03:16 AM
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I have a filter on so on christian/catholic women can see me but she didnt list it on her profile so idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:21 AM
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Yeah I guess he's slightly above. I think his height halos him too so he didnt ever get surgery or anything
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:19 AM
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Thats jeb bush lol. Younger idk no examples come to my head right away
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:12 AM
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unironically a very average faced white male Maybe he's slightly above average looking? He's like 6'3 and has a full head of hair though so he's above average for his age. Edit: He's not ugly but he's not really attractive, but when he was younger I could see his face being considered cute. His height halos him hard which is why trump couldn't really make fun of him for any physical appearance like he did to Rubio, Bloomberg, and rand Paul.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:04 AM
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Seth Rogen isn't that tall but yeah I agree with what you said. I know a lot of guys who are like 6s? or so facially who have gfs who are decently cute so its not imposisble. but they're like 6 ft tall so that helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:57 AM
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a girl sent me a rose on hinge. and she's not fat. later inkwells chad out /s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:47 AM
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No all men want more feminine women for sex, regardless of how masculine they themselves are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:46 AM
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The problem is that post no one really agreed on what the average guy is. Someone said John krasinski is average lmao. yeah he's just an average guy, married to Emily blunt, stars in action movies and tv shows. The TRM scale is also really messed up because literally Bryce Hall is rated as like a 6 an he is a top tier Tiktok pretty boy who women would call a 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:42 AM
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I think a 6 is around the cutoff where you can possibly get laid. A normal person rated 6, not a true rate me black pill 6. So an average guy is a 5. His face is normal and his height and frame isn't doing him favors. He needs something going for him to get to a 6. Looks or status. Here are a few options: Really good facial hair Long, flowing hair Very good fashion Cool accent Being the frat guy who is friends with the chads Being the bar jester guy who is friends with the bar owner Being a good…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:35 AM
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Damn 6'4 that's the best height imo
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:47 AM
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6'0 and 180 is not fat. Unless he has no muscle mass
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:08 AM
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140 is close to dangerously underweight at that height. 160 and toned is good but 180 and toned is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:38 PM
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You need to gain like 40 pounds
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:32 PM
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Gain some weight bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:07 PM
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Yes. See: ugly frat guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:20 PM
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Eh you could still be very attractive Stacy at 41, trust me. Reminds me of lots of times when I was in grade school like 13 years old my friends and I would talk about how hot some of our moms were lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:18 PM
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At the end of the day those things will lose their luster compared to a girl in the flesh. And they don't give validation either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:05 PM
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Is your daughter actually a Stacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:02 PM
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You can have children without marrying. Surrogacy.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 09:32 PM
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im sorry I couldn't help it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:21 PM
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Do you got it going on?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:37 PM
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It's still possible. Are you talking about yourself? Just having knowledge that you need to improve is a good start.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:36 PM
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US isn't anywhere near implementing actual socialism lol. Once people start feeling squeezed of money they vote out whoever the fuck raised taxes. Thats why so many states have republican Govs. Middle class Americans don't care that much social issues when money is on the line and those are the voters who decide national elections. And taxing the rich enough so that they are in the same social class as middle class people would backfire tremendously.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 07:49 PM
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Depends. The issue of having no degree, no better job, at 25, is not that you are out of time, but that you are probably not smart or wealthy enough to get those things if you tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 07:47 PM
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are you actually a mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 07:41 PM
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Surrogacy is an option
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 07:37 PM
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Luckily if US becomes socialist you can just move countries. Anyone who thinks wealth inequality will ever not exist is fooling themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 07:37 PM
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Is that you ricky? But nah he's average which for Hollywood is ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 07:36 PM
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It's not that bad if you know how to use it. Like not committing, not actually paying for things but showing your wealth, getting surrogacy for kids and getting paternity test and prenup if you ever get married. Getting surgery to correct major flaws in your appearance so you are at least somewhere around average looking. Having a beach house in Thailand. Etc. Having some ugly bros to bond with. If you are going to be the ugly rich guy do it the right way. Don't commit to someone who likes you j…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:40 PM
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what country is she from
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:35 PM
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then you were overrated or you are overrating this guy. He is not a true rate me 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:30 PM
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Yeah I might be balding too. Going to the doctor to see if there's anything I can do. If you go bald then you have to get big muscles. My backup plan if I go bald is steroids and grow out my beard lol.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 03:25 PM
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Haha I know it's a long shot but I haven't completely given up hope. I'm prepared to go MGTOW if I don't find anyone.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 02:40 AM
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Congrats bro thats amazing.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 02:39 AM
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The US will continue to sputter along for at least another century I believe. But if there really was collapse, I would probably move out into the wild somewhere with whatever money I have left, a few friends, and build a new life for myself.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 01:33 AM
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Compared to other subs and forums, this sub has relatively few incel content. MGTOW can seem depressing at first so it's not much of a surprise there is some negativity.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 01:02 AM
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Same here man. I was raised very religiously, still holding out but it seems like there is no point. I've been getting to 3rd base with women just to relieve the sex drive.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 01:00 AM
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Im a virgin because I'm looking for a unicorn, but I did other stuff with a few women.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 12:59 AM
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My face is average but I'm tall. I could use a lot more muscle to fill out my frame though
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 12:56 AM
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Minox for the beard. I thought you were married tho. why are you on the sub?
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 12:55 AM
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$INMD raised guidance again. Crazy record growth for this stock, no debt, and they have 85 percent margin LMFAO. It pays to know that looks are king.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:24 AM
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Damn I had no idea truckers made that much. That can't be the average for a trucker is it?
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 12:19 AM
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depends on the location. in the US? it's not ideal but not a death sentence. Go for 5'2 girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 10:40 PM
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then you are good dude. tell your gf to lose some weight tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:59 PM
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5'7 is right around where it gets really precarious for western males. You can do it if you have good facial aesthetics and fashion though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:57 PM
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Ok I was kind of thinking if she wasn't overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:55 PM
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I agree. He is dating down even if she lost weight, that's my conclusion. Also OP has some form of BDD or mental issues thinking she is better looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:54 PM
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Ok so the whole thread has one scale where he is 2-3 points higher and above average looking and you have your Beverly Hills/LA scale where this guy is average. can't make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:51 PM
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ok so hes solidly above average so he's like a true rate me 6-6.5 which is what I said Do you live in Beverly Hills or the Hamptons or some shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:48 PM
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if she lost weight she would be above 4 for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:43 PM
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OP is the guy in the photo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:39 PM
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this guy clearly has mental health issues OCD or BDD and the thread should be locked
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:37 PM
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yeah she's overweight too which hides facial features
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:35 PM
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are you short? thats the only way your aren't already a high tier normie
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:34 PM
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She's not a 4 are you kidding. 4 is noticeably ugly, obese, getting into weird looking territory. She's 4.5-5.5, he's 6.5-7.5
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:32 PM
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this guy has BDD. im sorry bro but there is no way your gf is more attractive than you. But if you find her attractive thats what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:29 PM
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Maybe on the true rate me scale with normal distribution at 5 with a sd of 1, he's a 6. Which is still more attractive than 2/3 of men. No regular person is going to say this guy is a 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:28 PM
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On a regular person scale, dude is higher than 6.5 less than 8. Somewhere in that range. On the true rate me scale then he's like a 6-6.5 which is still "noticeably" attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:27 PM
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He's not an 8 lol. I'd say she is a 5 if she lost weight, maybe 5.5 if she has a nice body and he is a 7 to 7.5. He's def dating down a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:25 PM
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BDD bro. You are above average. Unless you are really short you have no issues with your lol. Tell your gf to lose weight or go find a hotter girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:20 PM
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I just don't think I could really love a woman that I didn't think was cute/hot/whatever. Yes some women have been into me, I've been asked out a few times by women but I turned them down. I'm not a great looking guy just average "normie" looking but I am tall and athletic which might put me in the above average overall body/looks category. I also bring a lot else to the table in terms of income, smarts, humour. Not that I want to be a beta bux but it does matter if you want to raise children wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:07 PM
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The guy is more attractive. The answer to making them closer is pretty obvious...the girl is chubby.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:50 PM
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That was really sad. It sucks to think that even if you find your unicorn things can still go wrong like car accidents, cancer, pregnancy problems. Not even including the relationship issues. I am not really fully MGTOW, if I find a unicorn I'll happily stop being MGTOW but I think what has changed for me recently is that I am now prepared to live alone which I wasn't before my past experiences with women and dating. I have a plan for kids which I have always wanted (surrogacy) and I am not goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:44 PM
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Really good point. It's about what you do with your time and energy that makes you go your own way.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 07:50 PM
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Either way no way any Only Fans chick is making that much unless she's in the top .1 percent of earners.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:36 PM
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No it's not. 400K is highest tax bracket, and if you have children that takes up a lot of money for tuition. Homes and property tax are expensive AF in nice suburbs and cities. 1 million a year is Porsche territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:07 PM
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Well if I'm emperor I would mandate an obesity tax or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:06 PM
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Surrogacy. You pay a woman to have your child and then you get the rights to raise the child on your own.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 07:05 PM
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This is why simps are the biggest problem in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:54 PM
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400K is upper UMC. You can dunk on your regular UMC neighbors with a new Tesla, but you aren't riding in a private jet any time soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:50 PM
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I have no idea what any of these are lol except I know Jim and pam are in the office.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:43 PM
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curious where you fall on the political spectrum
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:42 PM
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These were very informal polls, I'm not making any scientific claims of accuracy. Just a general sense of what this community is. There are lots of biases.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 06:41 PM
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I disagree with Cicero. I think frugality often becomes its own vice of worshipping frugalness. A healthy medium, like Aristotle suggests, is the way to go. We do not need Lamborghinis but living in a box is not good either.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 06:35 PM
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Mods didn't approve this as a post, but here is my research on r/MGTOW2: https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2/comments/ojlony/what_i_learned_from_informally_polling_mgtow2/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:29 PM
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No ugly women have it much harder getting quality guys
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:24 PM
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facial looks, height, and frame are literally just part of looks lol. saying they settle for a guy who is not facially attractive but tall and stocky is like saying her face is a 5 but she has an amazing body so she's a 7. Lots of guys would be happy with that. It's a huge part of looks. its sexually dimorphic
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:19 PM
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True equality is essentially what we have now. Men and women are able to date and have sex with who they want, provided they are adults. No one is forcing men to get in to LTR with women who don't like them, no one is forcing women to settle with "beta" men, no one is forcing chads to sleep around. Everyone does what they want. Both sexes are free to lobby and vote for their desired legislation. No one is forcing men to pay for dates or women to pay for dates. For example women are free to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:14 PM
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What is your idea of enough?
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 06:07 PM
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well you don't have to be religious to be trad. you can be trad and atheist but considering religion holds up traditional culture it doesn't make much sense. they are gonna have a hard time finding a girl
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:56 AM
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in the first sentence they said "men who want trad women".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:45 AM
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trump isn't trad lol you think trump went to fundamentalist bible camp when he was a kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:40 AM
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Yeah I know, I'm not too old yet. It just gets harder and harder, same with regular dating, as more people are taken off the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:01 AM
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Early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:38 AM
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read my big comment. yes im looking at church.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:31 AM
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well there are some trad virgins who aren't Christian like some anime girls I guess? Idk but it's not going to be easy for them, Christianity is declining but still has the most trad women. Are you religious?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:08 AM
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you sir are a legend. 1 million a year is my goal.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 03:07 AM
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In my experience growing up tradcon, it's great. People are nice, everyone is fun to hang out with, very cordial and polite. Bible camps are really fun, when I was younger I loved going to Bible camp more than sports camps. I have never really experienced any inter-community viciousness. Maybe it's more common with women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:33 AM
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I'm prepared to go MGTOW if I don't find anyone. I really dislike trad relationships where one side is settling just to be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:26 AM
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Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:24 AM
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True that's why I'm cautious unless she is clearly into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:23 AM
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trad girls are usually nicer, friendlier and less judgmental of men in my experience. Maybe that's because I fit in with them better than non trad women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:19 AM
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They are actually more attainable for the average guy imo. Beta bux game works on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:09 AM
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Uhh trad girls are kind and loyal if you are the right guy. My friend is getting married to a virgin trad girl. he has a good face and made olympic trials for the USA in a very competitive sport... You bet your ass she is not going to shit test him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:07 AM
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False, I actually want a traditional girl and a traditional relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:06 AM
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Hinge and Bumble have some trad women, it really depends on the area. In rural areas it's not uncommon at all. Most explicitly Christian apps like Christian mingle for example are full of less attractive people and also women who have children (instant deal breaker for any trad guy) but some are good looking. Yes I'm trad dad/mom approved. That pastor girl's mom was all over me trying to talk me up with her daughter she was literally like "wow historical-agency you are so tall and smart..." I am…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:03 AM
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The perfect question for me lol. I was raised tradcon and although I've distanced myself somewhat, if I ever get married it will be to a trad, virgin woman. Before you say I am hypocritical, I'm saving myself for marriage but I've gone past second base a few times. I have met a decent number of trad women, through church and church groups. Some are obviously interested in me. The problem is I just don't find many of them attractive enough or vice versa. I also meet them on dating apps. Hinge and…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:42 AM
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hahah nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:46 AM
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Congrats. Index funds are smart
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 12:41 AM
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have u heard of surrogacy, coparenting? You do NOT need to commit your resources to a woman to have a child.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 12:36 AM
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Blue collar jobs are great if you aren't doing college. Trades especially. STEM is the best if you can do it though. Work from home and the income is just unparalleled in my opinion.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 12:35 AM
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Inspiration bro. Was your business related to your full time job or was it in something else?
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 12:34 AM
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I think stock ETFs and real estate are the best place to put savings. If you make more than 200K, sorry I forgot to add that option but feel free to put it in the comments.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 12:15 AM
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hate to say it bro, but the way to get over it is not getting attached in the first place. learn from this and move on. don't get attached to anything you can't leave in 30 seconds or less if it comes to it.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 11:57 PM
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Thats literally what about 1/3 of the people on this sub are doing according to my recent informal poll.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 11:56 PM
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consistency is good
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:26 PM
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For some women, yes, men who have had sex before are less valuable for a relationship, all else being equal. Many religious women and men both expect that they are their partner's first- sex after marriage. I am a virgin btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:53 PM
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And you are entitled to yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:40 PM
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I would shut down all immigration into the country except for sexy latinas But tbh I would first focus on getting people to be less obese because honestly that is a huge part of the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:55 PM
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Less valuable as a potential life partner, girlfriend, or wife? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:59 PM
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Not rooted in seeing all the good looking guys have easy success with women? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:58 PM
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No it makes sense for other reasons. Higher chance of fidelity in the future, similar values about sex, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:38 PM
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I don't know, maybe? It depends. That's why only committing to a virgin makes sense so you don't have to deal with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:18 PM
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Could be many factors. I do think penis size can be somewhat important but there seems to be many other factors driving evolution. Especially size and intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:46 AM
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I would be receptive, but I'm not getting into a relationship
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 12:44 AM
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The subreddit MGTOW 2 is mostly Gen z and Millenials.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:42 AM
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Because making one guy wait for sex another not is clearly putting one guy above another. Who wants to be the chump?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:41 AM
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MGTOW is an individualist philosophy that isn't trying to accomplish anything in the government specifically. Although if enough men go MGTOW it could have drastic effects on the economy, marriage rates, birth rates, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:31 PM
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was it women actually selecting for larger penises or other traits? Because there is a correlation between larger penis and height and other dimorphic traits. And how do you know it was women selecting and not just that those men with larger penis, height, androgenic features were better at reproducing? this science seems pretty suspicious tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:16 PM
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How is it not? I am going my own way. staying single rather than settling down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:11 PM
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better single than simp
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 06:45 PM
1

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 06:27 PM
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For sure. But when you are young you want to have good sex lol. My parents didnt marry in their 50s. And you want good genes for your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:10 PM
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That sucks. Yeah I'm thinking surrogate. Cost is slightly prohibitive but so is marriage so it's a wash.
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 04:25 PM
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Nah I wouldn't be attracted to someone that much below me. That's why I'll be going MGTOW and getting a surrogate for children unless I find a unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 04:23 PM
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Well it's both, I think you need attraction for a good part of the relationship, but also the emotional and mental connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 04:21 PM
1

10 is a "few"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:48 PM
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Agreed. There a good number of hot older women. Generally if you are hot when you are young, with some self-care you will be hot when you are in your middle age. That's not the issue. The issue is they cannot have children and trying to start a family with a 34 year old woman is a recipe for disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:47 PM
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Nope. Don't settle for being settled for boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:37 PM
1

Have you been on any dating app? Date includes hookup for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:33 PM
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Well I then told her she wouldn't care if he was nice if he was less handsome and strong and she said no she would still like him. Basically trying to blue pill me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:31 PM
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Yeah it's stupid. If you talk to a girl and say you are depressed because you can't find a woman for a date/relationship, they say "just focus on other things! Life isn't all about relationships". And then when men go MGTOW somehow that's bad too. Though tbf like any large online community there are always people who are more interested in making controversy than the actual movement. Which is literally just being an independent male.
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 03:29 PM
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Good point.
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 03:36 AM
0

I'm a student and already lost thousands of dollars to the government from money from my jobs + internships
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:00 AM
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You would think my mother would be honest to m, but apparently not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:57 AM
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My mom literally says she liked my dad because he was "nice". Hmmm not the fact that he is 6 foot, benches 245 10 reps even in his 50s, and made more money than her?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:37 AM
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Disagree. After anger and depression, acceptance comes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 09:28 PM
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Don't settle for being settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 09:14 PM
2

Can you define what is a good man??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 09:12 PM
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You joke but Kanye has millions of young men as fans, he's kind of like the Taylor Swift for guys. Popular rappers all have a "grind" mentality that resonates with young guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 07:30 PM
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I would add that it is possible to have children without a woman these days. Surrogacy is a viable option for MGTOW men who believe they are family oriented like myself. You don't need a woman for your life.
/r/MGTOW210/07/21 06:32 PM
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They aren't stupid, they know that they can have a child with a genetically high value man for free and get some other guy to pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 06:12 PM
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Did you read my first comment? He is dating a hot girl who goes to a top 20 university in the US and is going to be a doctor. "Worthless as BFs" Not worthless as the father of their children though, considering how many single mothers there are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 05:45 PM
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Yeah for sure. A lot of guys are very conflicted because they like how she was interested in him before but she's not as hot. I think in the end the biological side wins usually and the guy can't resist the hotter women, who then try to use him for his money or fame. And the cycle continues.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 05:16 PM
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We don't see my friend come home with a new girl from a club every weekend?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 05:13 PM
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No, I'm just average looking. I can get women just not the ones I want. It's all good though. 7 figures income is my next goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 05:12 PM
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Yes it's called the "chip on your shoulder". That's why lots of rap songs mention women who didn't treat the guy well when he was on the rise and now he doesn't care about her, but they will rap about girls who were with them before they got famous as a real one. Kanye rapping about women who faked interest on "Put on" "I know hoes that was frontin' when they knew he was brokeThey say, "Damn, Yeezy Yeezy, you don't know us no more?""You got that big fame, homie, and you just changed on me"" Kany…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:57 PM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:41 PM
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that's not what I see happening at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:40 PM
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DPF seems kind of useless without N count also known because for example one girl could have sex with 1 man 1000 times (5 year relationship) but also 100 men 100 times and have a low dpf. The one relationship lowers the DPF. Some sort of scale is needed, maybe the square root function could work. So like 1000 fucks of one guy is only 31x than 1 fuck on one guy rather than 1000x.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:38 PM
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yer a feckless ingrate
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:29 PM
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I have an Ivy League degree make 6 figures and I'm a virgin waiting for marriage. If that's not high relationship value idk what is. But then where are all the women who value my "personal responsibility"? Not a single woman I find attractive, and I have moderate standards, has been interested in me. How do you suggest I self-improve more and what is my motivation for doing so?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:27 PM
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If you improve enough and they start coming, don't forget how they treated you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:18 PM
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the lies PPD will tell you. Imagine thinking a fuckboy will have a hard time getting a relationship. Fuckboys have 10 women trying to be his girlfriend. Every guy has seen it a thousand times over. My friend is a fuckboy and cheats on his hot girlfriend all the time. And his girlfriend goes to a top 20 school in the US and is going to be a doctor. More sex appeal = More relationship options. "Only good for sex" Sex is the most validating, intimate, romantic act a woman can give a man. A guy woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:14 PM
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Some self improved guys are very delusional though and won't realize they are being used. But I agree, in the future women looking to settle down with a stable guy after having a lot of sex are going to have to watch out for guys just looking to pump and dump them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:57 PM
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I disagree. For the average guy getting rich is a much better way to get laid than getting slightly bigger. If you are going to the gym you need to go all out with steroids for it to be worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:46 PM
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Just go to the gym. Grow a foot taller. Change the bones on your face. Regrow your hair. Asinine nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:37 PM
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Fuckboys can get a relationship if they want. Guys with more sex options have more relationship options too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:35 PM
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Yeah, always a desperate guy. Most guys who have self respect aren't lining up to wife up a porn star.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:31 PM
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If you can't get sex you can't get the other stuff. A guy who can get sex form women can get a cute relationship too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:29 PM
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I agree to some extent, but I also think that Gen Z is having a fundamentally different dating experience that Millenials and Gen X.
/r/MGTOW210/07/21 03:19 PM
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I agree, the rage is ok for a little while but eventually we all need to move on and focus on building our lives.
/r/MGTOW210/07/21 02:52 AM
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I mean more like having money to go wherever I want whenever I want
/r/MGTOW210/07/21 02:47 AM
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Who cares? If you want to get girls, then go to the gym, get rich, and get surgery if you need it. But really, it is better to be happy single. Gone or sent your own way, you can live a fulfilling life as a single male.
/r/MGTOW210/07/21 12:48 AM
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just beat the ender dragon for the first time. very satisfying. hoglins suck tho
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:28 AM
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at my heart I am still really blue pilled and would love to find another virgin and marry and have sex on our wedding night and have kids and grow old together and die together
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:24 AM
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We'll just have to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:16 AM
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Idk I guess the saying goes why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free Sex is the most validating, romantic thing a woman can give a man and if she gives it to a lot of guys its not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:00 PM
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I agree, but I want to have the ability to travel whenever I want
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 10:59 PM
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Major in financial independence with a minor in children through surrogacy
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 07:08 PM
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This is eye opening the difference in cost of living. I could retire at age 25 if I lived in one of these towns, but I'm saving up for a more lavish lifestyle.
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 07:06 PM
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Imagine being the guy who sleeps 10 ft away from the couple lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 05:00 PM
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in other words Don't settle for being settled for Should be every Gen Z guy's motto
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:34 PM
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Well I wouldn't marry a girl with an N above 0 anyway so I wouldn't really care at that point, but I think the average guy wouldn't feel slighted if she also made all the other guys she had been with wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:23 PM
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I can't grow anymore but yes I am aiming for 7 figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:16 PM
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He is less unique, special, whatever. The point is it's not just in his mind. She has had sex with these other guys therefore you are less unique to her. If
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:05 PM
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Depends on location. I am 6/6/6 and I have the experiences of an average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:03 PM
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Yes, but I have rarely have seen where my friends and I disagreed about the attractiveness of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:52 PM
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How did you have your son? Were you ever married or did you have a surrogate?
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 03:50 PM
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Straw man again. If N=1 in a serious relationships and you didn't have sex until month 2, then it doesn't insult the guy that you are making him wait that long. Women are free to act however they want and men are free to reject them for whatever reason even if you don't think it makes sense. I would never marry a girl who isn't a virgin, for example, although everyone here would try to tell me I'm crazy/unreasonable/insecure/selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:49 PM
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social media is a big one. asking her directly about past relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:46 PM
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I think it's middle middle class to upper middle class depending on location. it's definitely not something that makes the ladies swoon though.
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 03:42 PM
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How come?
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 03:41 PM
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yeah I know, it's kind of ridiculous. How were the SSRIs? Any side effects?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:40 PM
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"Women better never let their n count get too high, but they also better put out on the first date. " Straw man. Be consistent. That's what guys want. If you are fucking one guy on the first date, don't be surprised when a guy doesn't want to be billy beta and wait 3 months for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:36 AM
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Guys really need to stop wasting their money at these bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:32 AM
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sex is kind of like money if you dont have it you really wish you did if you do then you kind of get used to it and have other problems
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:04 AM
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you are cute and or hot congrats guys just make dumb decisions for attractive women its really cringe sure maybe he is playing 4D chess and trying to get you to pay more in the long run but I doubt bartenders are that sophisticated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 02:47 AM
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And for you older MGTOWers, how is it being MGTOW into your later years?
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 02:45 AM
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are you cute or hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 02:31 AM
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I would add that it is possible to have children via a surrogate too, if you want a family. Chase money not women.
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 02:17 AM
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stock picking? maybe. stocks? No. Total market ETFS are very solid investments
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:42 PM
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So we spend all this time talking SMV this, RMV that. So much talk. How about you put your money where your mouth is?? Stock picks based on your pill color Redpill: $PLNT. Planet Fitness. Gym Chain. Blackpill: $INMD. InMode. Cosmetic Surgery. Bluepill: $GME. If you believe in blue pill you might as well believe GME to the moon. Post your stock picks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:29 PM
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Results: The vast majority of the sub is never married.
/r/MGTOW208/07/21 10:20 PM
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I dont know how it would work but commerce and artisan guilds would be fucking sick
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:03 PM
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Ok, that doesn't mean that women have to have casual sex. It's their choice and they can think about if they care if it might mean some guys reject them for their past. Guys can reject women for any reason. And besides, women can always find some desperate guy for a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 09:55 PM
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I'm free to reject anyone for any reason. I don't even need a reason. I'm sure those women wouldn't even be interested in a virgin guy anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 09:53 PM
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There are plenty of girls who remain a virgin until marriage or until it's an official relationship, she could have done the same. Maybe she learned her lesson, but she's not relationship material in my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 09:28 PM
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Women are free to not have casual sex if they are concerned about that No one is forcing anyone to have casual sex. I'm a guy and I've had situations where I could have had sex and didn't because I'm waiting for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 09:23 PM
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sounds like BS. That's the girl who you don't get into a relationship with
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 09:05 PM
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I'm not whining, it's just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 09:03 PM
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How would you feel if a girl you liked didn't have sex with you until 3 months into a relationship, but had sex with a more attractive guy on the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 09:02 PM
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How do they do the same thing to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 09:01 PM
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it's not hard to guess if she's lying. most people are bad at lying
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 07:18 PM
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I am 6'1 with a six pack and I bench my body weight. I'm not out of shape. I am going to get surgery eventually but not everyone can afford 10K surgeries when they are in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:52 PM
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He doesn't "feel" like he is less special. He literally is less special. If she won't tell you her n count, move on
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:47 PM
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That's why average men who are not sexually attractive need to do everything they can to make as much money as possible and have children via surrogacy. Children give people meaning in their lives after they get old and ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:35 PM
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Exercise your facial bones?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:29 PM
2

Jason Momoa is what is referred to as the mythical "Giga Chad"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:23 PM
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Being too intelligent is bad for a guy if you want to hookup with a girl. When I go to parties my friends will make fun of me saying I went to an Ivy League and im too smart for them and then I look like a douche. Girls shit test me all the time like "omg you must be such a nerd. what was your ACT score teehee? I got 21 lolz"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:08 PM
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Can't easily improve looks, it's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:55 PM
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I agree. However, men don't like being treated differently than other men were in the past. That's where the disconnect is. If she's a virgin or only has sex in serious relationships, then that's great and men can take it or leave it. If she's making you wait but not other guys, it's clear she doesn't value the man and the guy is being played.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:43 PM
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Idk that's just my definition. But I cold see there being traditional women who aren't religious. It's less common.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:41 PM
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Yes, I'm saving sex for marriage (for now) but I have done other sexual stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 04:25 PM
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Men should move out of the west
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:40 AM
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I have also been leaning towards peaceful separation. There can be the two coasts as two countries, the middle, and the south. the problem is that a lot of the ideological differences is urban vs rural vs suburban not necessarily geography
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:05 AM
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because after the second call where me made plans, she texted me back first about following up on the plans and going out on a date. And then when I replied positively she ghosted me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:01 AM
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How old are you??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 11:12 PM
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Haha yeah otherwise she wouldn't be 0 N count. If she's a virgin I would respect waiting as long as she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 11:07 PM
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wages will stagnate behind inflation
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 10:09 PM
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only god knows
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 09:19 PM
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Ivy League -> IB -> PE -> Megafund PE or HF -> 7 figures by age 35. Only 10 percent or so make it to each new step.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 08:27 PM
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Lots of guys. I would never commit to a non traditional woman. I would sleep with one though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 08:22 PM
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TRP will help with attraction but good luck marrying an actually traditional girl if you have a reputation for sleeping around. edit: Tim Tebow for example. He was a 30 year old chad virgin waiting for a traditional unicorn which he found. she was literally named "miss universe"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 08:18 PM
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Yes lifting and social confidence will improve your attraction with all women, including the traditional ones. Some of them won't marry you if you sleep around though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 08:17 PM
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I am in that age range. I know some nice women but the mutual attraction isn't there. I recently got straight up ghosted by a traditional, cute 21 yo girl after 2 phone calls and a date planned which really confused me. Some of my friends are getting married to traditional women tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 08:15 PM
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I think MGTOW is more about no marriage or commitment than no sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 08:10 PM
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No, there are still pockets of traditional culture, some are immigrants and others are religious groups like the mormons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 08:09 PM
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mgtow is the way unless you are very attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 08:06 PM
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Just grow 5 inches and look better bro
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 08:00 PM
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You can figure it out pretty quickly. Social media, ask about past boyfriends and sorority experiences, if she is religious, if she is a virgin. If she doesn't want to answer move on, simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 07:55 PM
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Of course. Traditional women go to church, mosque, synagogue, they have 0 N count, and they don't post sexual pictures of themselves on instagram. They don't have to say that they are traditional because to them that's just how things are supposed to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 07:53 PM
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No, I want my own genetic children. And children don't need 2 mediocre parents. They need 1 good parent. And coparenting is an option if you want them to have 2 parents.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 07:52 PM
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Not if you have signed a legal agreement before. Then she could face jail time, lawsuit, etc
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 07:51 PM
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Yeah, I'm only paying for a date if she is a virgin unicorn. Otherwise she can pay or we can split it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 07:50 PM
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Yes it doesn't slow down but by then you are used to it and the pay ramps up very quickly. This guy is getting ready for private equity recruiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 07:12 PM
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what I find hilarious is that the beta husband is actually a very attractive guy. like how entitled is your life if you can't decide if you really love your hot rich husband or some other random hot rich guy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 07:10 PM
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I agree, most guys leave IB after 2 years. It's just a resume booster. and we were joking about not having time for girls lol. we can't get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 07:02 PM
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yeah of course. thats the point. no one wants to date us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 07:00 PM
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when he's older maybe. younger girls don't care about income or jobs or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 06:27 PM
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lol the girls we hang out around also make 150 K so it doesn't really make any difference. still single AF
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 06:25 PM
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it's not for everyone. lots of guys who have no social life don't know what to do if they aren't working 80-100 hours a week on some shitty LBO model
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 06:16 PM
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Never settle for being settled for. If she isn't fucking you as quick as she fucked chad move on. If she's a virgin give her time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 06:11 PM
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Lowest I've seen yet. You sir are a certified "HVM" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 06:08 PM
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Surrogacy is an option, you have full custody.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 06:03 PM
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I have the same "problem" (it's not really a problem). I want to have 2 children. I am planning on getting a surrogate to have full custody over my children. You need to have a good income or wealth to afford this however. This is possible in various countries including the US. There are also a rise in "co-parenting". Essentially with those is you agree with a woman before hand on how much time both parents get with the children, how much money you both spend. And then do the deed naturally or I…
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 06:02 PM
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Carpenter is the most versatile and useful imo. It depends on what you want to do
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 05:54 PM
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I met with an old friend yesterday, he's an investment banker working ~80 hours a week making somewhere around 150K out of school. I asked him if he had a girlfriend, he said no, he was too busy. I said that's a good excuse and laughed, he asked me if I had one and I said no. We chuckled and kept talking about work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 05:38 PM
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It works by assuming all of the traits aren't related. But height and race are related to income for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 05:32 PM
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I think they are. They grew up with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:46 PM
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The thesis is simple. Dating used to be in local connections, now its global or greatly expanded via apps. more access to top looking people = higher expectations. so even though the average height is pretty much the same as it was 20 years ago, women think 6'0 is short because there are dozens of 6'6 and 6'7 guys on tinder, tiktok, and instagram
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:39 PM
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Pass
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:32 PM
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According to this: https://igotstandardsbro.com I am a .025 percentile catch. LOL ok I'm waiting for my super model. the website probabilities are wrong because it doesn't take correlations between events into account But still, it's an interesting website to see what an average guy really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:29 PM
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except cameras literally distort 3d objects to make them 2 dimensional...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:23 PM
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I watched as my younger brother who is 18 is sinking into depression now that he realizes that he isn't going to be 6 ft tall, he stopped growing around 5'10. He's average looking and now he is getting obsessed with making money. Gen Z and below are ruthless. It's horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 03:58 PM
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with inflation and everything, 400K is the new 100K
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 03:54 PM
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No, it's much higher than .5% because those events aren't independent. I am all of those things, and about half of my friends are in that category, and we aren't hot commodities on the dating market at all.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 03:45 PM
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That's what I have experienced too
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 03:43 PM
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No, tit for tat is the right way to live. Respond how others treat you.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 04:28 AM
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I plan on having kids through a surrogate. But if I couldn't do that I would probably just work until I could retire in the woods somewhere and go fishing, hiking, camping, until I get old and then just end it one day.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 03:06 AM
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Even then, it's not the kind of salary that impresses women. Attractiveness is a bigger deal and also the "prestige" of your job. Doctor making 150K > Software engineer making 200K imo
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 12:46 AM
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upper middle class you are right it is much higher than the national average but adjusted for cost of living it is not that high.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 12:37 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doutzen_Kroes supermodel
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 12:35 AM
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I'm over 6 foot tall and fit, my face is about average. I don't think I am really "below average" in looks overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 12:31 AM
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no, my anecdotal experiences did. There is no other explanation for why I have such a hard time other than my looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 08:25 PM
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I see. It isn't your age then, I'm guessing the popularization of dating apps is what started the new expectations of women.
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 07:47 PM
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I'm from the US, most restrictions have been lifted in most states
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 07:35 PM
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That's amazing
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 07:16 PM
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There is some truth to that. It's hard to be confident when you are rejected so often though, you know? I feel like something is wrong with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 07:12 PM
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250K past age 30 is pretty average for UMC. The top earners are earning closer to a million around age 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 07:10 PM
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Congrats man, glad you found someone who likes you for you. I am also going to stop mentioning my job and school on apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 07:09 PM
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I have been thinking about starting a family when I am a bit older through surrogacy. It's not ideal, I would preferably find a wife, but I decided I won't ever settle for being settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 07:05 PM
2

How old are you?
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 06:53 PM
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the top is so lonely though :(
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 06:46 PM
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lol yeah at this point I might as well be looking for doutzen kroes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 06:43 PM
1

Covid has been pretty much over for a while. I just got flaked on twice last week.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 06:41 PM
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Average men don't get anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 06:38 PM
1

yeah but it would be cool
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 06:37 PM
1

My looks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 04:01 PM
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Work hard for your own enjoyment. It's your life, not anyone else's.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:18 PM
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Dating apps, but because of covid. Before I wasn't on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:11 PM
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Below average women are overweight and I'm just not attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:07 PM
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I've learned that you work hard for your own enjoyment only. It's just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:06 PM
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I'm not Asian. I know some Asian guys who are very attractive and do very well. It just depends on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:04 PM
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hahah time to go Walter white
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:03 PM
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Don't settle for being settled for And btw I am 6 ft and muscular with an Ivy League degree You need to have the looks for it too. No generational wealth I worked for it all. I was on student aid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:02 PM
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I'm not charming but I have a nice personality, I definitely don't have trouble making guy friends and being one of the more charismatic people in the group
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 02:59 PM
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I don't think so
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 02:58 PM
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Yeah a lot of guys its a combo of both. I do know some middle eastern guys who do well but they look like models. Would you consider surgery for your face or is it just not worth it?
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 05:54 AM
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Extremely minimalist.
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 05:18 AM
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I want to have a family, we are blessed to live in a world where you do not need a woman to make that a reality. Through surrogacy and IVF, a man with the means to afford it can have full custody over his own biological children. That is what currently motivates me. I realized that a lot of my past self desiring women was just a way for me to get children. Now I know I can bypass the relationships and simply start a family on my own.
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 05:16 AM
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my type is literally any not overweight, moderately attractive woman with a low n count
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 05:09 AM
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Yeah I am sociable and have good friends, never helped me get a date tho. Yeah worst case I guess I can cry in a Ferrari.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 05:08 AM
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not exactly, more like cosmetic stocks. INMD HOLX CUTR SIEN ABBV are all cosmetic procedure/surgery stocks in one way or another. there are other ones too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 05:07 AM
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No, most men are just normal dudes.
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 04:24 AM
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plastic surgery is only going to get more popular. I put all of my money into plastic surgery stocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 04:10 AM
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A lot of men do put in effort but then stop when they realize their effort isn't worth it. I used to have so many OLD profiles, setting up dates (most of them ghosted on me). Now I don't have any. It's hard to be sociable when you haven't had success- it's like a cycle. And yeah, I can tell that no one cares about school or job success. I would tell my younger self to drop out of school and do steroids and lift instead lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 04:07 AM
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It's not demeaning. Some people are not blessed with being tall, handsome, rich, whatever. You still can live a great life.
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 04:03 AM
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I rarely get dates with attractive women, there is no filtering to do. The ones I do get dates with ghost me or say I'm nice but they aren't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:45 AM
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Not OP but: My personal experience is I worked harder than pretty much every single person I know since I was 13 years old, I used to wake up at 4:45 AM to drive to high school for early practices. I was the only person in my school to make it into an Ivy League, there I would stay up until the early morning doing work for advanced courses, and I graduated near the top of my class with a top percentile income job. I am pretty much still considered very average by women because I look average. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:40 AM
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My personal experience is I worked harder than pretty much every single person I know since I was 13 years old, I used to wake up at 4:45 AM to drive to high school for early practices. I was the only person in my school to make it into an Ivy League, there I would stay up until the early morning doing work for advanced courses, and I graduated near the top of my class with a top percentile income job. I am pretty much still considered very average by women because I look average. I also go to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:39 AM
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My personal experience is I worked harder than pretty much every single person I know since I was 13 years old, I used to wake up at 4:45 AM to drive to high school for early practices. I was the only person in my school to make it into an Ivy League, there I would stay up until the early morning doing work for advanced courses, and I graduated near the top of my class with a top percentile income job. I am pretty much still considered very average by women because I look average. I also go to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:37 AM
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My personal experience is I worked harder than pretty much every single person I know since I was 13 years old, I used to wake up at 4:45 AM to drive to high school for early practices. I was the only person in my school to make it into an Ivy League, there I would stay up until the early morning doing work for advanced courses, and I graduated near the top of my class with a top percentile income job. I am pretty much still considered very average by women because I look average. I also go to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:35 AM
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My personal experience is I worked harder than pretty much every single person I know since I was 13 years old, I used to wake up at 4:45 AM to drive to high school for early practices. I was the only person in my school to make it into an Ivy League, there I would stay up until the early morning doing work for advanced courses, and I graduated near the top of my class with a top percentile income job. I am pretty much still considered very average by women because I look average. I also go to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:34 AM
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My personal experience is I worked harder than pretty much every single person I know since I was 13 years old, I used to wake up at 4:45 AM to drive to high school for early practices. I was the only person in my school to make it into an Ivy League, there I would stay up until the early morning doing work for advanced courses, and I graduated near the top of my class with a top percentile income job. I am pretty much still considered very average by women because I look average. I also go to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:26 AM
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Sadly you can't always improve your looks, but I agree it's best to try. The key is to be content being single either way.
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 03:08 AM
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Well said.
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 03:07 AM
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Its fantasy for attractiveness but very real for fertility. Harder to have kids at 35 compared to 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 02:34 AM
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I believe you can do IVF and select for male embryos in some countries.
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 02:30 AM
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My informal poll of r/MGTOW2 has approx. 33 percent of respondents saying they were largely "sent their own way" rather than "gone their own way". Interesting results. Could biases in the respondents or trolls be skewing results one way or another? It's not clear, but the percent being sent their own way was larger than I was expecting, in any case. edit: and it was removed. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 02:27 AM
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Congrats, that's the way to do it.
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 12:13 AM
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Fair enough
/r/MGTOW205/07/21 10:57 PM
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Sure, but not necessarily one he wants, though, which is the point.
/r/MGTOW205/07/21 10:53 PM
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Not many men are actually "incels" because prostitution is legal in most countries. "Incels" are usually just guys who can't get women to find them attractive for whatever reason, and they can't get sex without paying for it in cash. The definition gets blurry where "betabuxx" relationships come into the picture. Some are bad people, some are good people and just ugly. Just like any large group there are extreme participants, but most incels in the real world are passive and slightly lonely nice…
/r/MGTOW205/07/21 10:20 PM
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unicorns are out there, but they want a unicorn guy (alpha bux)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 10:08 PM
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It's not so bad bro. I have become comfortable being alone and if I want a family I might get a surrogate and have a son, and raise him well. Life is good.
/r/MGTOW205/07/21 09:59 PM
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I don't know why there is such a stigma admitting that you were sent your own way. Fundamentally both are about a life of freedom, adventure, and solitude. I'm interested in seeing what the results are.
/r/MGTOW205/07/21 09:53 PM
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as a guy if you aren't either going to the gym (with steroids) and benching > 225 for 10 reps or becoming a deca millionaire then you are failing in the current marketplace unless you have a celebrity-level face.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:45 PM
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yes to all of these. I get women but just not any that I'm really interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:14 PM
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Dating without sex is simping unless she is a virgin. its all about consistency
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:12 PM
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There just aren't many attractive women there. That's probably what they think of the guys too lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:02 PM
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im looking for an attractive, traditional woman with a low n preferably a virgin edit: also commonly referred to as a unicorn
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 03:48 AM
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No, it's really not much different. What is bad for them is having an incompetent, lazy parent or parents who won't pay for necessary education, health, sports, and that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 02:37 AM
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I want to have children
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 02:23 AM
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neither is better or worse
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 02:16 AM
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a combination of standards and not being hot
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:36 AM
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money
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:32 AM
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thought it might be an interesting topic or if others have similar plans. what an example of "mgtow" might actually entail
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:28 AM
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reposting cause daily thread got updated in the last few weeks I have become more and more accepting of the fact that I may not find a life partner, and imagining my life without one. id rather find a wife but I have some things keeping me going if I don't: I will have children (probably 2 sons) via surrogacy (in Eastern Europe or Asia) I will be a multi millionaire I will do some epic shit and raise my sons how I wish I was raised It's not so bad honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 11:48 PM
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UMC
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 09:50 PM
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lol I know, this is a plan for 15 years from now im going to think it through more than 99 percent of parents
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 09:20 PM
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yeah its not like im going to be changing their diapers for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 08:27 PM
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I might hire a nanny to help raise the children It is possible with a lot of professions if you budget your time wisely. The best software engineers make 150K out of college.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 08:23 PM
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If I'm not going to be married I want full custody over my children and not have to worry about legal issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 07:43 PM
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in the last few weeks I have become more and more accepting of the fact that I may not find a life partner, and imagining my life without one. id rather find a wife but I have some things keeping me going if I don't: I will have children (probably 2 sons) via surrogacy (in Eastern Europe or Asia) I will be a multi millionaire I will do some epic shit and raise my sons how I wish I was raised It's not so bad honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 07:39 PM
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I'm not Chad but I do have a decent number of sexual encounters with women but refrained from sex each time because im saving myself for marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:22 PM
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I dont know how short and ugly you are bro. you are pale so I assume you are white and from what I hear, having white features is a big advantage in a lot of countries so women do genuinely want whiter looking children. they also correlate it with status and wealth. I think some would want you for your money but some would not. getting huge muscles would help. frankly If you are too poor to move to Thailand then that might be a bigger problem. women in the west do care about money and status and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:53 PM
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red pill with black pill knowledge is where it's at. improving yourself (lifting, style, and confidence) but knowing that you may need more drastic measures to improve appearance (moving locations, surgery) is the ultimate red/black pill combo and should be tried before moving on to white pill
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:41 PM
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I believe a lot of men are blue pilled at their core even those who know about red pill. the Disney princess dream is very powerful
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:36 PM
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make a maroonpilldebate!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:25 PM
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thats why im saying there should be a maroonpilldebate where the black pill people can talk
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:24 PM
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move locations to Thailand and blast some steroids bro its not over what do you have to lose. get surgery. get a tan.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:21 PM
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LOL pick 5'10 over 6'5? Only if being 5'10 came with a free million dollars and even then it would be a hard decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:56 PM
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of course people here say height doesn't matter and then they don't realize how many short guys are wearing tall shoes and lying about their height to make up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:54 PM
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5'10 is right on the edge of average/tall so it's a decent height.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:54 PM
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its not a shoe in but it makes it much easier. short guys can't afford to be ugly, tall guys can get away with being sort of ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:52 PM
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much easier to fix face and being lanky than your height.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:50 PM
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It is tall, but not for the men women actually notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:48 PM
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id gladly trade heights bro. imagine going on tinder and saying you are 6'5 thats like 50 matches right away. dating, social interactions are all easier the taller you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:28 AM
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celebrities are on a different planet than regular folks. of course any a tier actor fucks. the taller you are the easier it is, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:26 AM
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beds are still short lol that is a problem. but seriously the advantages in dating and sex (6'5 is playing the game on easy mode) vastly outweigh the cons of short ceilings and such. just compare r/tall to r/short, r/tall is full of 6'2 guys wanting to be taller and r/short is guys trying to deal with having no romantic interests and being bullied. Taller is better until you get to true freak height which is around 6'7
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:23 AM
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even at 6'1 I feel too tall for 5'0-5'3 women, they have to stand on their tiptoes to kiss and seem so small but yeah its not a secret that a lot of short women love tall/big men and vice versa especially in the bedroom
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:21 AM
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lots of guys lie about their height online though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:12 AM
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yeah and he gets crap all the time about it despite being a famous and incredibly handsome actor
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:11 AM
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depends on your location. around college campuses it is not rare at all because of all the athletes. im in the 6-6'3 range and wish I was taller
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:11 AM
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online face is important but go to a party and tall + well built men dominate the room every time face is pretty much irrelevant unless you are very attractive or very ugly. short guys need to get big (lift like your life depends on it)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:43 AM
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im the shortest of my friends at 6'1. when we go out in a group girls always hit on us
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:55 AM
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bro I dont even want to tell you how much better it is being tall because you seem really chill. there is no too tall except over 7 ft. just enjoy life and move to a short country if you have to
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:54 AM
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5'7 is actually the height that I think it close to the cut off where it starts to get exponentially harder for males every inch they drop below. not many respected celebs for example are under 5'7. he should move to Asia or South America for sure. in b4 all the height deniers say that he wouldn't become more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:02 AM
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are you a guy...?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:01 AM
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dang balding at 18 that sucks man. sounds like a job for roids or a lot of protein and some hard gym workouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:07 AM
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true. there's a lot of ways to counteract balding- medications, transplants, plain ol hats, getting jacked and growing the beard out for the classic bald and beard look. very short and having autism for example are much harder to succeed with
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:01 AM
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0:0
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 01:56 AM
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balding is normalized by 30s, short is never
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 01:55 AM
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how tall is he? sounds like a 5'4 or below guy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 01:53 AM
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average is the new short
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 01:53 AM
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how tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 01:47 AM
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I have rarely ever heard of a woman actually disqualifying a guy for being too tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 01:34 AM
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imo it's 6'6-6'7 it gets weird. 6'2 is relatively normal. If I could pick a height I would pick 6'4 probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 01:31 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/o9p4mc/being_6_feet_or_taller_is_significantly_overrated/ height is not overrated, if anything it is underrated. a 6'5 guy is like a god amongst mortals in the normal world as long as he is remotely normal in everything else
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 01:11 AM
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average guys are increasingly sexually frustrated
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 01:05 AM
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just last week there was a thread saying height is so overrated for guys...it's not
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:56 AM
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evreryone men and women alike want hot sexual partners. but attraction is relative and tbh an average guy in the west is taller and stronger than an average asian guy which might make him have a higher SMV at that location.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:45 AM
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not sure how that's related
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:09 AM
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no he moves to another country to raise his SMV
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:58 PM
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yea but he doesn't want to betabuxx that sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:54 PM
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cap bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:53 PM
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you don't think a 5'9 average looking white guy would be much more likely to be attractive in say Thailand than in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:42 PM
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its all looks
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:30 PM
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true, depends on the person
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:26 PM
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Exactly, they have maxed out their financial value and status. they still get 0 dates. they aren't attractive here but in other countries they are. a 5'9 white guy is below average height in the US but above in Asia. Light skin is considered an advantage in a lot of dark skin countries. In India they sell skin lightening products for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:22 PM
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because most guys wants kids for LTR even if they are beta buxx and at age 30 it take 1 or 2 years to get married and start having kids, fertility decline around 40 but some women have other undiagnosed issues which makes it hard to try to start a family past the early 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:18 PM
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attractiveness wall is a myth, fertility wall is not. hard to start a family at age 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:17 PM
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Ill tell my friends making 200K who can't get a date that they need to present more value lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:00 PM
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the average male in the west is sexually undesired and considered ugly. if he moved to India for example he would be richer, stronger, taller, and have a larger p**** than 90 percent of the men there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 08:51 PM
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CMV: the average sexually frustrated western male should unironically consider moving to africa/Middle East/asia
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 08:47 PM
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incels aren't involuntary celibate they inwants or indesires they are involuntarily unwanted or undesired (sexually)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 08:41 PM
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average western men need to get out of the west if they want a sex life, it's that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 08:35 PM
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the puritan thing is a myth tho puritans were pro sex in the context of marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 08:32 PM
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just a joke that you find Sean Opry who is considered a very, very attractive man as not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 05:00 PM
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the attractiveness wall is a fantasy but the fertility wall (ability to have children naturally conceived) is not a myth at all. its important for children minded women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:54 PM
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the attractiveness wall is a myth but the fertility wall is very real.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:53 PM
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attractiveness, nah women are pretty much always attractive if they take care of themselves and don't get fat. Fertility and ability to have children naturally? The wall is very much real and begins in the early 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:52 PM
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you should be blackpilled because there are wholesome low N count princesses out there but they only want chad too
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:30 PM
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idk it really depends on the guy. masculine and tall guys don't really need it. if you are short and or feminine looking its very important.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:29 PM
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id go as far to say that any guy bald in his early 20s should get on steroids ASAP
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:18 PM
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a real redpiller is just black pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:15 PM
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oprycels in shambles
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:09 PM
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there are lots of virgins just most are not very attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:05 PM
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marriage is dead, can't resuscitate it. Birthrate could maybe be saved by encouraging IVF and surrogacy for males who have money and donor sperm for women who want children without marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:03 PM
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if you are hot just shave it and wear a hat lol. otherwise blast some roids and get a tan
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 03:58 PM
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chad can get away with being blue pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 03:49 PM
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yes you are right according to this http://home.uchicago.edu/~hortacsu/onlinedating.pdf its around a 200K income difference, so the 5'7 should be way ahead of the 6'2 poor guy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:01 AM
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nah it's not true, lots of hot, smart trad girls at christian schools for example they just are married to chad at age 22
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 03:48 AM
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I always associated it with right wing politics
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 03:41 AM
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the study was done on HBS and Columbia BS students most can make really good money. HBS is pretty much the cream of the crop in terms of future income
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 03:39 AM
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I went on a date with a HLS woman once and I thought she was attractive but talking about her future it did make me wonder a little how it was going to work out if she wanted to be a big time lawyer, and I wanted someone who wanted to primarily be a mother and/or stay at home mom im also Ivy League educated which is why I think she wanted the date because she was model tier attractive and I am not lol I am open to Ivy League and other highly educated women, I have a lot of them as friends, but i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 03:30 AM
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did you see the MBA study? single women were the only demographic group to lower their ambitious traits (salary, work hours) when told that their answers would be shown to their classmates https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/pallais/files/acting_wife.pdf 30 percent of HBS female alumni are married to HBS alums edit: read the conclusion to the paper it sums it up well
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 03:17 AM
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what do you think it is? left wing? extreme right wing? this is the first time ive read an article on it so idk
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 03:15 AM
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lol yeah it's biased. the government data and MBA study is interesting though. the "model" at the end was very not fitted to actual data and is just like a quantitative version of what he is already saying LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 03:15 AM
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I agree same thing for me with women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 03:13 AM
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MBA is boring and mostly about prestige. People do it to take a break from work, get a raise, put something on their resume, and maybe meet their spouse. A lot of attractive chicks in MBA programs but don't do it just for that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 03:13 AM
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what's MRS?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 03:11 AM
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its like a right wing blog mostly boring politics stuff but someone posted this recent article which was interesting. https://quillette.com/2021/06/28/mate-selection-for-modernity/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 02:54 AM
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the MBA study from the quillette article is really interesting. MBA is half-jokingly referred to as a dating service for a lot of UMC guys and girls. That women there wouldn't reveal their career aspirations to their (potential romantic partners) classmates almost confirms that they sort of know that a lot of men like less ambitious SAHM type of women. edit: also really interesting 2x as many female HBS alumni are married to HBS alums than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 02:32 AM
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one thing that was interesting about the quillete article was the college gap. PPD women who have a bachelors or more, would you consider dating down in education? The article said that up to 45 million more educated women than men by 2040 or something along those lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 02:17 AM
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They both suck. The only way women's is technically worse is that if she has a kid she knows it is hers, but a guy doesn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 08:25 PM
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How attractive does a guy need to be for the looks gate to be passed? Like a 5/10? 6/10? 7/10?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 08:24 PM
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MGTOW is sort of a cope for unattractive guys but it is nice to "disregard females acquire currency" as they say
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:32 PM
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nah that's not me that's my friends. workout is hard if you have a small frame, but I do encourage them to work out. I wish I made 500K lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:00 PM
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it's very risky, if you have the cash then go for it but be ready to lose it all. The safe route is total market ETFs. I like to have a small account to play around with and a larger account that is more safe.
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 04:39 PM
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limb lengthening can cripple you for life and at best adds like 4 inches.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:29 PM
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500K is top 1%. You live in a short country. 5'5 is very hard in the US even if you are rich. Even 5'10 guys are average
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:19 PM
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Not really but I've learned to live with it sort of, I like making money instead
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 03:13 PM
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5'5-5'7 and average looking Indian guy or Asian guy. Not ugly just not hawt.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 02:52 PM
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are you going to college? then take some finance and economics courses. if not, read investopedia to learn about investing concepts https://www.investopedia.com You can read books like One up on Wall Street, a random walk down Wall Street, the intelligent investor once you have basic concepts understood. this is important to know. rich people are smart with their investments poor people usually aren't that's one of the reason the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 02:50 PM
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above average guys on multiple women's roster. average guys on one or two women's roster, below on none
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 02:48 PM
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weak physically or mentally?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 02:46 PM
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how much does income really matter?? someone on here couldn't believe that I know guys making 500K (24) and struggle to get dates (short, average looking)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:05 AM
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Waste of money
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 04:59 AM
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don't think drake really cares that much, he could have 100 children if he wants
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:59 AM
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etf is exchange traded fund, it's a fund that is traded on the market. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/etf.asp SPY is an ETF that tracks the S&P500, 500 of the largest most profitable companies in the US
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 04:58 AM
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I think 2 parents is best but there are lots of single mothers/fathers. Nothing wrong with raising a child on your own if you have the resources and want to pass on your genetics and family name.
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 04:56 AM
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its dramatic but average guys do struggle with dating
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:50 AM
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I wasn't clear, I meant having a child through a surrogate via IVF
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 09:26 PM
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I went 20 years without any sexual or romantic relationships I'm good living without it. saving money and making money instead.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 09:25 PM
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no need to make drastic decisions at your age, but you are wise for reconsidering marriage.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 09:23 PM
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A lot of guys imo
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 09:21 PM
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real estate is all about the location and market. If I were you I'd look into north Minnesota by Lake Superior that area is going to be gaining a lot of value in the next few decades imo and it is a beautiful area. invest in safe ETFS like vanguard total market or SPY have a side hustle on the side that just goes into your "retirement" fund land is pretty cheap depending on location so you won't need that much good luck bro
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 09:19 PM
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lookism is in human nature. if you are an unattractive guy you have a few options: save up for surgery/hair transplant just accept it and excel in other things move locations. a 5'10 white guy is average in Netherlands but an instant 8/10 in India.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 09:15 PM
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A waste of 500. guys want intimacy not someone to pretend
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 09:12 PM
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It depends, looks are important these days if you want an attractive partner. I for example can't find anyone who I am attracted to but I still meet with unattractive women from tinder which is OK.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 09:12 PM
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Curious to hear thoughts on IVF and surrogacy, especially if anyone is planning on using it to have children.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 09:10 PM
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If they lower their standards enough, a good number of incels aren't really incels, but they don't want to waste their time having sex with someone they don't think is attractive.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 09:09 PM
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Let's be honest it is a lot about looks but you need confidence too. If you are very ugly, consider saving for surgery to help. Lifting weights and eating clean is always a good idea too to fill out your frame with muscle.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 09:04 PM
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I wonder if there will be a trend of average guys not getting married (betabuxx) but moving to other countries instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 05:00 PM
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meanwhile the average guy hasn't had a date in 5 years
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:26 PM
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most, no. some from more traditional families are looking for a ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:19 PM
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dont be attached to anything you can't leave in 10 minutes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:45 PM
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Average SMP guys in the west are well above average in other countries, they can get genuine attraction in those countries. A 5'10 white guy in India is easily top 10 ten percent of guys as long as he is average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:38 PM
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Will never work, if all men slowed down then other men would take their place because sex would be easier to get. The only possible way of going back to the old SMP is restricting social media, tinder, etc, so competition is in local networks rather than global. But that's impossible now, so the next best bet for the average western male is to move geographies- Africa or Asia. However this will force the problem down to the average male in those countries and the trend continues.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:36 PM
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I hope zoomer men don't commit and go mgtow in response to the insane sexual market but with all the simps it's won't happen
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:53 AM
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except the women I have FWB with are not as attractive so I don't want a relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:43 AM
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doubt it because after the second call she texted me first asking about our plans for the weekend, then I replied saying we could get a meal or coffee whichever she preferred, and then she waited 2 days to respond and said she actually couldn't make it, and then I said how about next week, and she just never answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:26 AM
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not problem but I think the "big question" is if marriage for average men will still be a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:22 AM
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I agree, I usually don't bother but she was cute. Not gonna make that mistake again
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:39 AM
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for me to get a hook up or casual sex I have to lower my standards a lot and it feels bad
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:07 AM
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yeah I hooked up with a random sort of awkward looking girl from tinder twice, but hook ups suck and I wanted an actual relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:01 AM
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So... the cute, religious girl I was talking to ghosted me after 2 phone calls and after we made plans for a date. this is why I don't take things slow anymore, she wants to call 2 times before meeting in person and then just ghosts me. lesson learned, I am never doing more than 1 phone call before a date again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 02:52 AM
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I think he was red pill but then became black pilled which is usually what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:21 AM
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he was more blackball than red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 12:38 AM
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yeah I agree he didn't even need it, he was handsome actually imo and had good hair too. and he was 5'7 or something so not that short. I think it says a lot that this guy who btw was a millionaire wasn't satisfied with dating (that's the untold reason why he got the surgery) Limb lengthening is orders of magnitude more risky than a nose job or fillers or something like that. Even in the best case you can basically never be active or play contact sports again, in the worst case you can be crippl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 12:08 AM
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read this: https://jezebel.com/stories-about-my-brother-1835651181 edit: im over 6 ft btw. my height isn't a problem for me. for other guys it is a huge problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 11:41 PM
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Dating you are competing against other guys too, it's not much different than a job application. Height surgery gives you 4 inches maximum and can cripple you for life, you can't play sports, and have to take a year of recovery. A lot of people don't try to get into the top 1 percent because they don't have too, they have enough else going for them that they are satisfied with their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:50 PM
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anyone can work hard but you can't change your genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:53 PM
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I don't think it's that hard to get into the top percent of earners. A basic understanding of calculus, linear algebra, and grinding leetcode or hackerrank is basically all it takes. With someone to help you I think most people with a bachelor's degree can get there. Whereas to get a date you need to be attractive sexually. Your face, height and race (people are racist) are not under your control. You cannot change your height or frame at all. Muscle mass is achievable natural with good genetics…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:51 PM
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the group of people who can achieve one (income) is much larger than the group that can achieve the other (looks)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:16 PM
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debate me it is significantly easier to get into the top 1 percent of income than it is to get into the top 10 percent of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:00 PM
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not different, men wouldn't mind except that women aren't consistent, they treat the men who they have pure sexual attraction to much better than the ones they date for other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 07:45 PM
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How is it no actual evidence? I have many friends who work at those places who never have had a girlfriend or a date despite wanting one. Money is not impressive to women it's all about looks. Maybe if you make 1 million a year (which is what my friends and I are trying to get to) then it can help but until then you are just another guy with a stable job. I think it would be significantly easier for me to get you into the 99th percentile income than for you to help my friends get a date with an …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 07:40 PM
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do you mean "witty"? uhhh no they won't lol, you are assuming I am hot or something. and I don't want someone who just likes my money. if you want to see dozens of guys who fit the description of 500K and dateless look up these firms on linkedin and look at some of the guys. the average or ugly looking ones are for sure struggling in the dating world. Jump Trading, Jane Street, Hudson River Trading (HRT), Tower (TTG), DRW, Optiver, Five Rings, Susquehanna International Group (SIG), TransMarket G…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:41 PM
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exactly. However religious blue pilled guys will still be able to maneuver the question because it is more expected that a wife be a virgin. Religion is dying though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:24 PM
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This is about my friends and guys I know through school, not fan fiction. I do not make 500K but I do make good money for my age. According to this https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-by-age-calculator/ I am in the top 1 percent for my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:17 PM
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Height surgery adds 3-4 inches max and can cripple you for life. read this. this guy was actually pretty tall and good looking imo but it's a very sad story of a successful guy trying to be more attractive to women. https://jezebel.com/stories-about-my-brother-1835651181
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:10 PM
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sorry I was reading too fast, you are right. Both look great for their age imo and were never ugly just regular looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:21 PM
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true but he could also get women without spending a dime, just go to a local bar and literally dozens of women would want to go home with him. he's probably gotten so picky he only likes 10/10 instagram model women and your local cute girl isn't good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:18 PM
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average intelligence or income no but looks? these guys are average or below. I love how people think going to the Ivy League and making a ton of money helps with dates. It helps loneliness because you find out that also at the Ivy League are hundreds of other lonely AF guys and you hang out with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:08 PM
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drake isn't ugly though he's kind of average looking with great fashion
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:00 PM
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Solution: Get rich and don't tell anybody and don't spend it on anyone but yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:57 PM
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not for simps
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:51 PM
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if she's not a virgin then why would you marry if other guys got sex without marrying her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:48 PM
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regular Millionaire is not good enough. I think around 1 mil a year is where you get some interest, and none of it is genuine for you who you are
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:45 PM
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I have friends making 500K at age 22. most prestigious and difficult non athlete or celebrity job in the world in my opinion. Not a single date. it's about looks and that's it. I would tell them to get surgery but you can't add to your height and frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:42 PM
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LOL I have friends making 500K at age 22. Not a single date. You are so insanely naive if you think money will help at all. it's about looks and that's it. I would tell them to get surgery but you can't add to your height and frame. edit: and 200K is not very successful it's very average for Ivy League CS.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:40 PM
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LOL it is significantly easier to make 200K than to get an attractive woman to date you are you serious? I would say it's easier to make 500K than to get an attractive women to date you, I have friends making that who are single AF. And there is no plastic surgery for being 5'5 and skinny. Edit: It is significantly easier to be in the top 1 percent of income than it is to be in the top 10 percent of looks. Almost anyone with a college degree can get to the top 1 percent of income. Most men canno…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:38 PM
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what's wrong with that? lots of people have children who aren't ready for it. if someone is prepared and wants children but can't find a woman why is it a bad idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:36 PM
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No, the debate is between "there's no hope for unattractive males" and "there is hope for any guy if he works out, gets surgery, gains confidence"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:36 AM
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thats just about black pill, im thinking more of a red pill vs black pill debate sub. like how much does red pill work? general questions about red and black pill for men and women. sort of like here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:19 AM
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nah for a lot of men he's right
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:04 AM
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yeah thats why 5 guys responded in 20 minutes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 04:59 AM
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besides looks it is number 2 or 3 on the list
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 04:58 AM
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Good for you, for me I think I want to have kids, but it's definitely not for everyone. Enjoy your life! Sounds like you are having a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 04:55 AM
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there should be a maroonpilldebate sub where it's about black vs. red pill, that's what the interesting content is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 04:54 AM
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why pay what others get for free
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 04:51 AM
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for a LTR there is almost nothing as important for a good number of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 04:48 AM
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lie and cover up 10 years of posts on Facebook vsco and insta...no one is going to fall for that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 04:46 AM
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the men who care are usually more reserved, less social, religious, "blue pilled", or had delusions of finding "the one" who they were going to lose each other virginities too. often that means they skip of chances to lose their virginity while watching their peers go from woman to woman in high school taking virginities. others are just ugly and not desired and have a delusional idea that there is a virgin out there who will love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 04:44 AM
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Thanks for sharing. Have you thought about IVF/surrogacy and having a child? Could a great way to be less lonely. Only if you are ready to be a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 04:36 AM
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the men who care aren't lucky or hot enough to have partners when they are young so they are out of luck
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:47 AM
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sure...guys aren't that dumb, they know the kind of guys women usually think are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:02 AM
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this sub is almost amazing there are a lot of great debates but the only interesting content is red pill vs black pill not blue pill vs red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:36 AM
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Yes of course surrogate as well. You can get it cheaper overseas like Eastern Europe or Asia. Lots of software engineers work remote so it wouldn't even require quitting work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:34 AM
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cause they are good looking it's not that hard to figure out lol. what you imagine as an "average guy" is a good looking guy who is poor. What I imagine as an average guy is an average looking guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:43 PM
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No they aren't extremely ugly, one is just a kind of nerdy looking Indian guy. extremely smart guy. He's not "ugly" at all but not attractive either. And I doubt any of them wants to date a girl who just wants them for their money. I am too afraid to bl*ckpill them but I think they already know it because they have gone MGTOW basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:31 PM
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in vitro fertilization
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:20 PM
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ego boost validation and followers on social media
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:02 PM
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true both are short. most average men just want a woman who actually likes them who they like back.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:59 PM
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tons of average men just want a woman who likes them. I know really nice, smart guys who wish they could get one fucking date lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:38 PM
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Thats like telling a poor person that its not liker rich people win all the time. Yeah it doesn't fix your life but it gives you a whole lot more motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:22 PM
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yep I know Ivy League CS majors who can't get a date, have no motivation to work although they make 200K a year. No incentive anymore. I'm going to start telling them to get IVF and start a nice little family to spend money on. Poor, unattractive men are completely screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:19 PM
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Yes, unattractive men should be give the hard truth, that to become datable they need to change their looks via surgery or HGH/steroids. If they want a family they need to go IVF overseas. Need money so start working your ass off for any hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:18 PM
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lol I know Ivy League CS majors who can't get anyone to date them you think being a mechanic is going to help? Should they just become better versions of themselves, maybe become billionaires? It's all about looks the only way to improve is save up for cosmetic surgery, braces, and hair transplant, and if no woman wants you, IVF to make a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:09 PM
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I'm for legalizing prostitution just to make it easy and legal for those who do want to do it. But imo getting a prostitute is pretty lame. You are paying for what others get for free it's like you are admitting you are inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 04:08 PM
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Taxes and demographics are the primary reason why the government would be interested. If middle age men have no families or wives they will simply drop out of society. Economy will be going backwards and we will have an even more aging population.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 04:03 PM
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yeah its more just like a curiosity
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:00 AM
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I actually agree haha
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:47 AM
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depends if she went from super model skinny to a nice cute chubby, no. if she went from normal BMI to obese then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:44 AM
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yeah not at all. I feel like most guys are the same lol. they're like "bro im totally straight" and then they see a fem guy with a dress and makeup on and they're like wait a second what is happening
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:35 AM
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I'm straight but cute feminine guys do make me question sometimes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:29 AM
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damn sounds nice I really hope I find someone like that. and yeah the wall is pretty much a myth in terms of attractiveness, some guys are literally obsessed with older "mature" looking women, but it is very real in terms of being able to have kids and start a family
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:25 AM
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true I think some people wrinkle more than others, a lot depends on skin type, sun exposure, and race
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:17 AM
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how old are you? I always wonder about older people's sex lives haha. do you and your man still have regular sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:16 AM
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its socially acceptable for women to color their hair. I think the bigger issue for women seeing their looks through aging is weight gain and wrinkles.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:56 AM
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if your wife has single, attractive desperate friends they are shooting too high, simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:53 AM
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that includes 40 and 50 year olds though for under 30 its closer to 90 percentile
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:52 AM
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its all about location, in SF its poverty in most of middle America 100K is good money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:51 AM
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yeah it's true, I think wife goggles are a thing too
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:37 AM
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glad to hear it. most have said husband goggles but a few have said no longer attractive 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:36 AM
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well females dont have as much testosterone which causes MPB. but some guys look good bald imo. And yeah if she was hot I would definitely be fine with a bald woman. I appreciate the honesty though, seems like some women do have strong feelings against it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:27 AM
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lol alright nothing else matters as long as its relatively normal
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:14 AM
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take the efficient market hypothesis pill
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:12 AM
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seems like a lot of women have that way of thinking but I guess it really depends if the guy has a good skull shape or not
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:09 AM
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wow that's really sad. I feel like guys should wait to see if they go bald so they know if the girl actually will like them when they are older or not lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:07 AM
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I agree, I'm 22 male and looking for women who are looking for a ring. I'm a conservative religious guy from central US though. Marrying at 30 seems really late to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 12:28 AM
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hinge is the new "slower app" that is "designed to be deleted" but every girl I met on there pushes me for sex after 1 or 2 dates, then I just feel like it's not serious. Almost every OLD app is a hookup app. Some hookups do turn into relationships though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 12:26 AM
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I feel like a lot of people are like that. I definitely feel that way about women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 12:03 AM
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yeah I feel like its just a problem with younger men who are bald like 20s or early 30s. but then again that's where guys like women the most tho
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 12:02 AM
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19-24 year old female, above average attractive face and healthy BMI, good body, low N count, wants to raise children and will be loyal. Religious and good family. Smart enough for a good job but would rather be a stay at home mom. blonde or brunette doesn't matter, but nice long hair is important. 5'4-5'9 but a few inches shorter or taller ok. affectionate, cute mannerisms. wants to have lots of sex. sweet, soft voice. everything else not that important.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:22 PM
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LOL they must think the advice columns in readers digest are real too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:15 PM
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if she does she is literally the manifestation of my dream girl sadly her league is like 6'5 chad millionaire MIT math professors
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 04:16 PM
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well snap is good if you are already attractive otherwise they just want you to orbit. thats why I never give it to girls unless I already have met them in person
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 04:00 PM
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when u match with a cute, smart girl, text a little, and then go to stalk her social media and then you accidentally click on her linkedin profile but you aren't in anonymous mode... RIP and she is hot and knows R and SAS programming I guess that's what I get for simping
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 03:57 PM
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snap is big so many girls lose interest when you say you don't use it (I do, but just for sexting lol) it makes you seem weird not having an instagram also hurts but on the plus side you can't simp when you don't have any apps which is a huge positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 03:28 PM
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I did meet wonderful women, some even asked me out directly, but didn't find them attractive enough so I passed. I was also very busy in school (not so easy to get a 100K job out of college)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 11:20 PM
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LOL too true
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 07:16 PM
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I'm from the central US. I'm not Mormon haha so I don't think it's a good fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 06:51 PM
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I am religious
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 06:14 PM
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Yes UMC. I would prefer to date a middle class woman actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:49 PM
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If it's just face, maybe? I don't know, some women have said I am hot and cute but I think I'm average. Maybe being tall and a growing a thick beard makes me look hot to some women. If she had a really good body then no, I would be fine with an average face but not many women have that so I don't really think it's realistic. In general I think women look better than men so I guess it's relative too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:32 PM
1

Yeah that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:24 PM
0

Fit and average face? maybe if she has a really great body but probably not. I've had women who have fit that and my other criteria interested in me that I've turned down.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:22 PM
2

Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:12 PM
1

For her, everything counts. If she's been with a few (less than 3) guys in a LTR then that's OK but not ideal and then we aren't waiting for marriage. If she's a virgin I'll wait for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:11 PM
1

I'm 22
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:06 PM
2

I'm 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:05 PM
1

depends on how many partners you've had before
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:02 PM
2

I am 22, single and ready to get married and make babies
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:00 PM
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yes I am religious although not as much as I used to be. I'm religious enough to want to raise my children religious if that makes sense. Smart just means she can hold a conversation about multiple topics. Isn't going to make dumb decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 04:57 PM
1

which criteria do you think I would have to settle on?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 04:54 PM
1

religious yes. n count depends on how you define it but mostly yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 04:51 PM
1

dont think its possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 04:47 PM
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here are my standards for marriage or a LTR young, attractive, wants to be a mother, smart, religious, low N count, good family. I am 6/6//6 male, athletic, intelligent. face is average. Not willing to settle what are my chances edit: im 22
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 04:39 PM
4

I don't think prostitution makes as much of a difference as people on here seem to think. It's already pretty much legal via escorts, massage parlors, sugar dating and going to other countries. Men want someone who actually is attracted to them and the emotional connection isn't there with a prostitute. That's why there are stories where a guy hires a prostitute to pretend to be his girlfriend or something. Maybe making it legal would drive down prices and make it safer or something but that's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 09:00 PM
1

3 and arguably 4 of those things can be changed
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:34 PM
1

Those are the women everyone wants of course competition is tough. I'm 666 Ivy League grad, and trying to get a woman like that and so far not having luck even dating down economic class.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:31 AM
5

oh yeah I would know
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:04 AM
3

your mom sounds kinda fun though. its good to laugh at things sometimes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:02 AM
3

Stacy confirmed!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:06 PM
6

fair enough. if you really are a Stacy I don't see why you need a strategy at all? Like 99 percent of Stacies just get whoever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:04 PM
3

what about red pill women? thats also a women space
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 08:57 PM
1

Adam Driver is average or above average looking, he's tall and ripped, and a famous celebrity. It's like if a guy said "well Anya Taylor-Joy has weird eyes but I'd still fuck her"...like she's a fit, normal looking 24 year old actress of course you would edit: just looked up Adam Driver on twitter and there are tons of people lusting over his face
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 05:32 PM
3

Reminds me of when I first signed up for tinder. I got about 25 likes in an hour! I thought I was the next chad. Turns out, they were all grossly overweight or very weird looking. I swiped left on every last one of them. This guy is the guy who swipes right on all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 04:31 AM
1

The problem is that a lot of males have no meaning in their life without sex or a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:42 PM
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Doesn't work like that when she is a religious girl. But we are meeting in a week or so in person and yeah im definitely going to go for some romantic kissing to escalate a little
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:41 PM
2

Being too clingy comes off as desperate and weak. It's a balance between showing interest and who you are and being too needy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 04:20 AM
2

I just did that and wow thats high up lol. I can only imagine how people see really tall guys
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 04:13 AM
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Depends greatly on the location. I'm 6'2 and all my closest friends are within 1 inch of my height.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:54 AM
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Short women can be great too, but yes tall women have it all. Long legs, nice wide proportions. And when they wear big heels they are at eye level which is really sexy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:51 AM
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I'm not much taller. You haven't noticed it because it's all you know. If you were 5'8 then you would realize you get treated a lot better when you are always one of the taller guys in the room. Also depends on location.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 02:43 AM
2

im not that tall but who wouldn't want tall sons. lets face it tall men have it much easier in life
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 02:13 AM
1

seems like you have thought this through, good for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 01:50 AM
1

But women can generally become attractive? Men rate women much higher than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 01:27 AM
1

are you worried your future husband will leave or cheat on you? If not, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 01:24 AM
0

I'm curious. If you want to be a trad wife, what is your N count?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 01:14 AM
1

And black pill. It's not exactly a secret.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 01:13 AM
2

tall women are just amazing, something about a tall woman with wide hips that gets me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 01:12 AM
1

Definitely easier said than done, but I agree 100 percent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 01:00 AM
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yeah a lot of guys do that. I think the red pill advises men not to do that, and to only go for LTR after banging. But guys also simp for women they just want to bang too
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 12:57 AM
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I don't turn into a different person, I just take less risks and seem less confident I think. Like when I had a date a few months ago with a woman I didn't find that attractive. We sat down on the bench and I just put my arm around her, and she instantly started cuddling with me in the park. I would hesitate to do that with a woman I found more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 12:39 AM
1

What is your definition of high value? That's the key .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 12:29 AM
2

I turn to a simp for tall women (I'm tall) who can make chad baby boys with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 12:26 AM
1

What is the pink pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 12:26 AM
5

I had a phone call with a woman yesterday I met on OLD. She is cute, modest, young and religious and slightly awkward which I find really adorable. She is tall and has wide waist to hip ratio too. I may have come across as "beta" unfortunately which often happens when I think the girl is cute. It's true that women treat men differently depending on how attractive they. are but the same is true for a lot of guys. I act super non committed around women I'm not into, which has helped me get what I …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 12:19 AM
1

Some men are, but a lot of men say "AWALT" and that RPW are "unicorns" and it is better to "enjoy the decline"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 12:09 AM
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RPW really only works for religious women (read: virgins) who can go for men who will wait for sex. Anyone else using the strategy is a just "pick me" and will probably be manipulated. FDS probably will not work because a man that will fulfill all their wishes will not want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 12:05 AM
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I like it and I think that a random RPW woman will have a much better shot at getting a "HVM" (whatever that really is) than a FDS woman. a lot of the posts are fake/weird though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 11:55 PM
1

A Norwood 1-2 looks fine and they don't need to regrow a Norwood 0 hairline, which most guys don't have anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 04:11 PM
2

its unclear how much of that is due to finasteride and how much is due to psychological affects of being on the drug. The difference in clinical trials was pretty small I think. A lot of guys give themselves ED because of anxiety about ED, ironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 04:09 PM
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nonsense tons of guys stay around Norwood 1-2 with fin and Minox
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 05:08 AM
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finasteride is billion dollar drug its not ineffective lol. some men are wary of it because of long term side effects (mostly a very small but possible chance of permanent ED), but it is not ineffective.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 04:17 AM
1

exactly 6 figures isn't impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 04:09 AM
1

no it's not over. take the hope pill bros
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 01:22 AM
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Handsome ones can do OK, like tall average look guys. It's the short average looking guys who are in trouble. And the tall handsome guys who are getting all the attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 01:18 AM
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it's not a scam, but is it worth your time? Depends on how much you care and how much effort it takes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 01:02 AM
1

tallest guy was around 6'2 looks like
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:58 AM
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that video is just because they probably have never seen a white person in real life before. if you never saw a different color person before you would probably stare too. they were staring at the guy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:55 AM
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lol yes there are tons of guys making way more than that on tinder, bumble, etc. actors, lawyers, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:49 AM
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5'6 man would have trouble finding an attractive woman for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:48 AM
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He was lucky he is clearly above average attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:45 AM
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yeah definitely but girls are flakey and a lot use it for validation
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:13 AM
2

at one point yeah I was doing it every week, usually had the girls asking me out after we have a good time cold approach is kind of about luck but it does help most men, at least with confidence and being outgoing. I should do it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:12 AM
1

I used the same photos for both apps. Tinder seems to have a higher threshold for attractiveness, which is weird, because I've matched with women on Hinge who wouldn't match me on Tinder. I'm wondering if it's because Hinge they are trying to care less about looks (doubt it, because most of the women I've met on it just want to hookup or casual date), or is it because tinder only shows them the really hot guys and the guys who are paying? imo it's a bit of both, the app dynamics are affected by …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 06:22 PM
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Yes I agree. It is something to consider. When I paid for Hinge, I got dozens and dozens of matches. I assume that when I paid, my likes were getting sent to the front of the line or something. When I use tinder (which is owned by the same company), I get likes in the beginning but then it goes away. Tinder got me to pay once for tinder gold. And sure enough, I was getting more likes. Not crazy attractive women but not fat women either- women who I would consider around my match. Enough that I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 06:17 PM
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No, it's ok to have preferences, but you likely won't find one. I'm in the same boat. We all die alone in the end ya know
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 05:54 PM
1

now its for promoting instagram, and you have to pay to be seen
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 05:43 PM
1

we all die alone...DOA
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 05:42 PM
5

not op but anecdotally I know a short guy with a 8/10 instagram sorority blonde who is way more attractive than he is. He is not hot, but maybe a slightly above average face. and the crazy thing is, he wants to break up with her and she is obsessed with him. I think they met at a bar on college campus. he plays D&D with me lol. he is very outgoing and likable but not like a bad boy or anything. I also know a guy who is just kind of chubby but also just big. like 6'0 and kind of ogre looking. who…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 05:37 PM
2

Ive never cold approached and ive met women on OLD who within 5 minutes we are cuddling and making out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 05:36 PM
1

Tinder is designed to not show you unless you pay. Hypergamy is also true but paying will produce noticeable results because they want you to keep paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 05:28 PM
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tinder is pay to be seen or be extremely hot. no one else is getting shown except to the below average women. when I get the sign up boost I match with decently hot women but then nothing after.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 05:27 PM
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How does that work? The women actually have to swipe in order for there to be a match, right? Which means that at least some women are somewhat interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 05:26 PM
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hinge has a better ratio supposedly, and thats also the one where I get hundreds of matches (and very few on tinder). I also paid for hinge but not tinder so that could effect it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 05:23 PM
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For all the talk of 80/20 or whatever, I agree. When you first sign up you get a boost on tinder/bumble, and I get a large amount of likes and matches because it actually shows my profile to the women. Then, they let likes trickle in by showing you not as much, and hope you get annoyed enough to pay for the boosts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 05:23 PM
1

It's anyone's guess what will happen. monogamous societies are more stable
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:52 PM
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to an extent, but consumerism is partly caused by men not having anything (or a special person) else in their lives to spend money on, not vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:41 PM
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Social circle- be popular and friendly. Online dating - if you are attractive enough (not attractive enough- get more attractive or move locations until you are- will not always work) Random encounters- in the park, at the gym- if she starts a conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:09 AM
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is she attractive? then yes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:42 PM
2

No, men want a low N count woman who wants to sleep with them on second date, but doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:41 PM
1

bro id rather be with a girl for who I was number 1
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 04:26 AM
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I think it's because he has a small jaw. but all of his other features fit together very well. maybe its the halo effect from his body and height, but I would say his face is still above average...I mean have they seen what an actual below average dude looks like lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:38 AM
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eh im 6-6-6 which gets me close
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:14 AM
1

how do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:57 PM
1

Michael phelps he looks amazing. another example of women thinking average is like 95th percentile facial attractiveness. truly average guys are just invisible
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:24 PM
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phelps is almost model tier. Adam driver is also very attractive. whenever those are used as examples of unattractive men I can't believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 10:58 PM
2

for the right guy they are available
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 10:48 PM
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I'll never have a relationship with a single mother but hookups are fine. I also see plenty of attractive women on hinge and bumble ages 22-24 and most of them want guys a few years older
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:58 PM
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no, what's going to happen is international dating. average men here aren't average in other countries. they will move and the cycle will continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:45 PM
1

just get on tinder if you are actually good looking, the girls on there don't care about status at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:41 PM
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nah. im an Ivy League grad making 6 figures and get nothing. looks matter way more than status. everyone wants what they dont have. rich ugly guys would give up everything to be good looking. good looking poor guys wish desperately they were rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:20 PM
2

very well said. take the god pill bros
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:16 PM
2

Yes, if she was attractive, modest, and came from a good family, I would instantly want to date her. I make 6 figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:06 PM
1

that seems contrary to what everyone says about women not settling down until they are older
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:03 PM
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I graduated this year, so I don't make huge 7 figure amounts. I make a lot more than the average guy already though. the average male salary is like 50K. I could make 7 figures in my 30s and 40s if I continue to work hard. It depends, is the guy who went to community college very attractive? he would do better on OLD right now for sure. ill probably do better on OLD than him by the time we are 30 because some women will want to settle down and status will matter more. He can also work to make mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:45 PM
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yeah for the most part people were skinnier than normal status means nothing when you go to a school where everyone else is also "elite". it's all about comparisons. only men getting interest at my school were the athletes and really good looking guys. and being an Ivy League grad has not helped me at all with women so far
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:28 PM
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bro im an Ivy League grad lol. lots of ivy league men are awkward scrawny nerds who get 0 women. sure the lacrosse team is hot but most regular non athlete Ivy League dudes are just average. though the height thing is true im over 6 foot and felt short on campus celebrities are usually way above average, but there are random hotter guys on college football teams and stuff on tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:03 PM
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ive said it before but if a woman wants a "greater beta" provider, then red pill women (RPW) is the best strategy. if you are religious you could find someone of your religion who would respect your wish to stay chaste.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:41 PM
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why would you stick around if she said that to you. disrespectful
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:33 PM
2

I graduated without a long term partner why am I fucked?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:29 PM
0

nah those apps are for rich people and celebrities and hot women not super high SMV men. definitely hotter men on tinder than The League lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:28 PM
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well it depends on the age you put it for and also there are trolls and people just marking everyone ugly or attractive. its not a good indicator at all and also doesn't take height into account which is the second most important thing for attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:23 PM
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idk man photofeeler is known for being shit at actually rating. also its hard to tell height in photos which helps more in person if you are 6 foot tall. ive gotten high as 90 and low as 50. nothing but different angles, setting, and lighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:12 PM
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You could try swimming, it's much easier on the joints. 6'4 is like top 5% of height im pretty sure you could find someone. But if you have kids then I guess you aren't that lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:48 PM
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nah im not top 5% not even top 20 but I get casual sex like that from women. just not very attractive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:23 PM
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photofeeler ranks way too high. subtract 2 from your score.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:18 PM
1

why not drop the wight?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:09 PM
1

yeah he is ultimate pretty boy but compared to masculine guys like Henry Cavill there is no comparison. he is short too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:00 AM
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man that sucks. keep grinding and drop some fat and you will get someone probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:37 AM
2

Zayn Malik he's got a much better jawline than me and a short nose. mine goes out instead of up. maybe I need to lose some fat in my cheeks I agree though, "pretty" is also good looking- im definitely not pretty though. im a weird mix.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:34 AM
3

what about dating asian girls in the states?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:47 AM
1

probably around average, but not attractive enough to get the women I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:46 AM
4

why not move to South Asia? sounds like you would do really well there
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:15 AM
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I struggle immensely with figuring out what I look life. ive gotten as high as 90 percent on photofeeler which would say im above average. ive also gotten as low as 50 which would say im below. photos are all about angles and lighting. ive had people call me handsome, random old people. lots of people say I look like my dad, who I think is an attractive man. at one point I had over 100 matches on hinge but I usually only get a few a week on tinder. using those metrics, that would mean im probabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:11 AM
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that's the plan until I move to Asia and use my height to slay I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:40 AM
1

that's all genetics
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:12 PM
1

yeah sadly. Im a 6-6-6 guy but too ugly for women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:11 PM
-2

Of course you can get men to want to have children with you, but did you want children with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 01:30 AM
1

to some extent
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 01:30 AM
1

I'm not a huge fan of the idea myself, but I will consider it if I can't find a woman I want in the United States. also the cost of living is lower so an average male can live like a king over there
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 01:27 AM
2

6 feet 6 figures and 6 abs
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 01:23 AM
3

what if what makes you happy is a relationship with an attractive woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:44 PM
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I hate to say it but the way for them to get laid is to act beta and pretend to offer commitment, and then get laid and dump the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:22 PM
1

immigration from developing nations with emigration of beta bux men with some money is not enough to sustain an economy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:20 PM
-11

Childfree is a cope that you couldn't get someone to have children with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:44 PM
2

I'm depressed. I am a "666" male but no female wants me, and I don't know why. I think I might be too ugly. I am saving my money for surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:42 PM
1

only works if you are attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:41 PM
1

A lot of beta bux men are going to pump and dump, acting like a provider but never actually committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:30 PM
4

the difference is in the past the unattractive men could generally get a woman through hard work. that is no longer the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:13 PM
3

thats not it. ugly men can pay to get sex. its unfulfilling. they want relationships, a family, etc. - something to work their ass off for. thats over with = less workers in the economy. bad economy leads to all sorts of stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:11 PM
7

males drop out of society, some will first work to become rich and retire in their 40s or 50s. The rest will drop out and collect social security
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:03 PM
2

No, that won't happen. They can have children and become single mothers, like 1/4 of american women are doing right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:21 PM
1

But then won't men from your own culture be out of luck? I can't think that would be a good thing for you guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:12 PM
1

They should, if they want to, and weight the costs and benefits of doing so. I think however a lot don't know what they don't know- they think they have considered all the costs and benefits but don't realize other factors that will affect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:05 PM
5

Getting sex just because you are a walking ATM in the eyes of a woman is not a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:49 PM
1

well a lot of american men would benefit from moving to another country for the height advantage. a 5'10 guy can move to Asia and be seen as exotic (and therefore, attractive)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:21 PM
2

Turkmenistan didn't have internet until like 20 years ago lol. But some asian countries might have the tech and allow it. Japan maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:31 PM
13

War is unlikely, but men pulling out and causing a huge economic depression is very possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:27 PM
10

Top socio-economic status does not make a man attractive. Lots of nerds can't get laid to save their life and have no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:19 PM
2

Logan Paul vs Mayweather going to hurt short men even more. best short boxer in the world looked tiny next to Paul
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:16 PM
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Yes, I agree. Make them wait but not too long so they move on. I think RPW is the best path for women who want a "greater beta". It depends on religious values of the girl and guy too (a lot of RPW are somewhat religious and looking for a religious guy). That's why traditionally, young Christian women and men would get engaged fast (12 months) the guy gives his commitment to a pretty girl and she doesn't have to increase her N count to do it. The question is will they really be happy with a grea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:13 PM
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