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I'd agree but a lot of what manosphere was saying NOW is what MFS were saying in the 1950s. 1950s was "women are a ball and chain". From then til now apprehension towards marriage was always a thing. That shit would've been here regardless of how women behaved. Women being nice never made men less misogynist before..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:18 AM
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Tbh. I never thought of that. What if she does present a tangible trade for the offer that isn't romance or sex related? Is this still manipulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:41 PM
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They will literally bully you into an emotional reaction. That is literally the definition of bait. Like if you are bullying someone 90% of time that involves some sort of bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:30 PM
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That's not true at all. Most guys don't do foreplay without being asked. Very frequent complaint. If men knew this was important, there wouldn't be a need to ask for foreplay. Guys don't set moods or try to seduce the girl throughout the day while supposedly knowing that female arousal is responsive. But I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:54 PM
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It's moreso that orgasm are actually pretty important to sex. Most guys will orgasm frequently, so ofc you aren't complaining. Men STILL get bothered the few times they can't orgasm. It's so insane that we're now assert that RARELY orgasming is okay. Do we really wanna true for bad sex just because we hate the other gender that much? Wtfm
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:39 PM
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Ugly men don't succeed via being an asshole. I don't see that. I see HOT assholes succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 05:01 PM
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You and I both know that walking away from relationships and issues are difficult for a lot of people. Though it can be easy for some, half of the time it isn't as simple as just ending the relationship and for a myriad of reasons. Attachments often persevere in illogical ways. In theory I'd totally agree with you, in practice I'm pretty ambivalent to the opinion. I don't believe this was an honest or genuine suggestion. That being said these relationships in most cases typically do end eventual…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 04:07 PM
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And well this particular position is one that they are commonly put in. So a complaint being common in this context shouldn't mean much. Complaining about trash not being taken out in a timely manner is massively different from complaining about never getting an orgasm. In LTRs atleast this is a real stressor that has ended relationships if the woman in question wasn't a non-orgasmic one(rare in the female population). You and I both know it's logically flawed to dismiss a complaint simply becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:54 PM
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But we're talking about orgasms specifically right here. So I don't think that logic applies. I mean men typically can have orgasms easier than women. Infact, a man is very likely to orgasm from most of his encounters. So yes they complain less. This isn't women complaining more over a situation they have equally shitty to men. We're saying if men rarely orgasmed from encounters the way women do. Despite this, men still variably put a large importance on having an orgasm. I can tell you rn, most…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:50 PM
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I mean the people most commonly put in this position tend to complain about it so IDK if it would be exciting
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:00 AM
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They don't reward that behavior they reward being hot. Lol. Never seen an ugly guy be more successful because he was an ass. he just becomes ugly and annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:55 AM
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Depends on what you mean by "prove". Women typically talk to men if they're at least interested. So there is definitely something about you that grabbed her attention. But that's not attraction, that's just intrigue. You two start talking then she gets attracted. It's literally what happens during dating most of the time during dating. Even in relationships it never started as a "yes that's it" feeling that was automatic. It starts as a "he seems kinda cool" feeling. People mistake the initials …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:50 PM
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I mean if you look at it that way sure I guess. 😐
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:48 PM
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Yeah. That's how it works, that's what it is. Nature is a beast. Do what you can do. Don't settle but mileage may vary.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:10 PM
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I don't know about "better" I don't think of attraction along that line. I do think about intensity. But it's not straightforward. I appreciate your anecdote but visceral attraction in women (and men) tend to correlate with intensity often. It is an attraction felt in the body and not reasoned in the head. This often is a byproduct of intensity and not timing. This isn't to say that reactive attraction cannot be intense but at the onset of both visceral typically tends to be more intense. In the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:29 PM
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A lot of men tend to report being sexually attracted to a woman upon first observing her. Women tend to only to even be attracted sexually to most men after a point. Women typically start off with this "he's cool, I kinda like em". It's rare that women have a lot of interest especially of the sexual nature initially.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:17 PM
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Edit: I mean the issue with reactive arousal is that it has to be trained to get to naturally high levels where the treatment level is similar. That is all of that the Married RedPill is about. It's a thing. Reactive arousal is a mechanic in both men and women. It's just the standard operating mode for women. Edit: the proper word is RESPONSIVE arousal. But eh. Another edit: I wouldn't try that experiment. It's silly to say. Explaining Redpill stuff to women typically doesn't go over well. The a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:05 PM
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That too. Some women are not that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:03 PM
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Women generally have very reactive arousal. And visceral (visual trigger like men) attraction is generally rare for women by nature. Women have no issue being reactively aroused by average men. They only ever get viscerally aroused by particularly attractive men. But average men tend to be convinced that if she doesn't have visceral attraction for him, then she doesn't like him. Most women historically have never had visceral attractions to their husband. That doesn't mean a real sexual attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:40 PM
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Tbh it's a phenomenon that occurs but most men don't get approached by most of the women who rejected him in old age.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:12 PM
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I mean the FBI and bureau of justice stats actually point out that it's OWN racial crime stats are HEAVILY inflated with discriminatory police tactics. Police generally do not take rape claims seriously and the country has a really bad history of actually catching and responding to sexual predators. I mean we have them in office, go figure. So this absolutely is a large contributor for the disparity in rate and the amount of the population who does it. Also another part is repeat offenders. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:09 PM
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It's not a high standard. Good is exceptionally rare. Most people are just morally normal. In offensive, non-criminal. They still lie and hurt other just as much as any one else most people do. Most people are not overwhelmingly.morslly good or nice in their logic.and this isn't even talking about expecting them to save lives. Just the general level of altruism they have is far above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:35 PM
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Women having that is good but the lady nextdoor getting a man means jack shit to the state of the world.. that's a good outcome for the few who get it. Great even but that does not constitute any win for humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:26 AM
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But isn't it generally true that autistic men also overwhelmingly have a hard time making male friends relative to NT guys? And that a majority of men who lack standard social lives altogether are overwhelmingly autistic? Also women are more picky. I'm sure we all know the set of very real trouble from black and white thinking leading to little compromise, to not reading social cues and accidentally. Often times giving grace to an non-adjusted autistic person means constantly sacrificing your ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:51 AM
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They are as broken as men but here is another catch. Women are generally less socially isolated than men and treated differently than men. Women genuinely have more opportunities to actually LEARN how to mask because they get more social interactions and people are more willing to show them grace for blunders and even explain how things should go. Autistic men often do not have this type of social net.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:38 AM
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You're kinda understating it. We're not going to act like women Don get pelted with sex jokes every 6 seconds. I mean like guys say crazy stuff to each other. But women literally will get hyper focused on and rapid fired with them. And if she doesn't saying anything then the assumption is that she's okay with it and if she does then she's a bitch. Like there is no reason to get upset if changing behavior is simply requesting that she as an individual gets excluded from said behavior. Staring at …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:23 AM
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Coulda swore Alpha/beta kinda encapsulated this dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:13 AM
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Yeah. Hobbies vs spaces is different. Telling a woman she can't participate in MMA over her gender is crazy. Telling a woman she can't compete with men is a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:23 PM
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Oh yeah NOT being hot is a negative. But a lot of people think that if you're male model hot you don't need to know how to talk. I watched King Clav fumble a model by acting like a weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:27 PM
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"huge win for humanity" I hope this isn't a literal statement. Because I can't even be angry anymore. It's just the disappointment and shock that a thought this bad could manifest in someone's head. Revolutionizing how we use electricity is a W for humanity. Modern medicine is a W for humanity. These things shave changed the course of humanity. Not only are PPBros not numerous enough. They don't change DV rates in any substantial way. Also, you're making a broad statement about DV. I mean disper…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:50 PM
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Dude. The amount of people in this sub who will think you can literally do anything if you're just hot is astounding. I'm having a hard time believing you guys are real.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:39 PM
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Me: "if you're making the argument that misogyny is unable to cause the same type of damage and harm you're wrong" This statement pretty much says misogyny can do the same thing. Not that it's inherently more violent. In fact, nothing I said implies that at all. Unless you take the very act of me arguing against the idea that misogyny isn't as bad as the assumption that I think misogyny is worse. Do you? Do you take my very engagement on this topic as proof of belief in a claim I never made. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:10 PM
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It's not about putting value into a judgement that has nothing to do with it at all. It's about the fact that you and others literally claim RP and dating is amoral (that's true,). But will place more assessments upon women's dating behaviors and call them names for it. It's not about valuing a judgement it's about the fact that it doesn't align with the whole "dating is not moral" philosophy. And then instead of acknowledging your behaviors are not in leagues with that claim you excuse it and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:34 PM
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No. No. No. If you're an "ist", you're bad period. Colorists are better than racists by far and often less violent and murderous. YOU SHOULD NOT WANT TO BE A AROUND A COLORIST OR RACISTS. My point with misogyny. Most people who encounter a misogynist or misandry suffer because of their before. If there is an unknowable amount of misandrists that explicitly believe in killing men sure but that's also those misandrists. And that also doesn't mean misogyny isn't violent. Mind you South Korea, is on…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:30 PM
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We evolved the desire to have sex not the instinctive desire to have kids. It's a byproduct of human consciousness to actively desire to have kids but you aren't driven instinctively WITH the intention of having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 01:19 PM
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kids are not a legacy. Kids are custodians of a legacy you already built. When you people say "my legacy" I have to ask if you are A. Delusional, B. even know what a legacy is or C. That arrogant. Fuck "grand" legacies most of you don't even have small legacies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 01:14 PM
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Wanting attention and love from someone is not the same as loving them. In fact, that can flow completely one way. Wanting relationships with someone is not the same as liking or loving them. Wanting the validation of them giving you affection is not the same as liking or loving them. You don't even need to view them as human to want their love and attention. Lol. That means nothing to if misogynists like women. A lot of women do stay with misogynists. Most do not. Fullstop. I don't believe in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 01:04 PM
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To be very honest. Men we're doing that last quote before feminism. During it and now. There wasn't really a time where men didn't diminish or decry women en mass. There was a time after feminism where it was no longer openly acceptable but ask women about the men they personally know. It never stopped or slowed down. It just got quiet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:37 AM
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Misogynists hate promiscuous women because they occupy a role of sexual access and freedom they fundamentally believe a man should exclusively fill because "men and women are different". Their disdain for promiscuous women occurs for reasons that supercede sex altogether Anyway, hating someone is hating someone. Liking them enough just to seek out individuals you may be able to tolerate doesn't negate that hatred. Misogynistic behavior kills relationships. A lot of misogynists can get women, mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:32 AM
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A lot of guys tend to attach their value to how much general female attention they can get. Women just don't care if it's not from a guy they like period. When you attach your worth to attention from a group any statement hits like a pile of bricks. Because what do women say other than "bad in bed", small peepee, not a real man, you're gay, you're short. Like 💀💀💀 it's 99% elementary insults.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/26 11:25 AM
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Probably because she doesn't feel like it. How gender dynamics in the middle east work aren't exactly a secret to the rest of the world. And anyone who has eyes and ears. And is willing to be honest in this conversation knows very well that when it comes to the more morally good aspects of how to treat a woman within their religion, there is an alarming lack of consistency. Most Muslim women are not expected to complain about abuse. Non-consensual marital sex is not seen as rape. Uh. I don't kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:47 AM
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Because this sub has a problem. About half of all redpill identified people know nothing Abt RP. With any given individual in this place, it's never obvious if "bad" is an assessment of quality of a relationship or a moral assessment. About half of this sub treats women particularly whoring as a moral wrong that makes them bad people. Rather than bad partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:08 AM
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I mean a majority of men at your age are not dating or having success with 25 year olds at all. 10+ year age gaps are on the rarer end of relationship types. The most common gaps are 3-5. So I would not say you should recommend men hold out as a general rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:43 AM
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I kinda agree with this. I think about the aging like fine wine statement.. And then I think about Gordon Ramsey whose face looks like an abstract sculpture with the amount of wrinkles he has. He is still considered physically attractive by women and some men. A woman with a proportionate amount of wrinkles would never be considered as attractive or at all. Signs of aging are simply taken more lightly on men. And their appeal actually tends to come from the fact that they're old. This is relativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:37 AM
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That's true. You didn't need to make a post to tell us that us shitting on them for it being weird doesn't matter. We knew it. We will continue. If it's irrelevant, best you learn to ignore well enough to not feel compelled to make posts like this. Lol. So I guess I'll continue on to say what everyone else will. I believe in the good faith of consent just as much as I do legal consent. Meaning that consent is exclusively because they are relatively experienced, with a clear head and good conscie…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:12 PM
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I mean like on the opposite end we're presuming the 19 year old will understand. We can say stuff like this but if we take 100 19 year olds and put them next to 100 80 year olds. 90% of them aren't going to understand life as an 80 year old to any capacity. As a comparison to what you're saying we could assume that a day out of 50 years, the sky will be purple. Right it's not that the sky is regularly blue it's that it CAN be purple right? My God I really hate when people try to really say "but …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:50 PM
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That's very RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:45 PM
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I mean if your lack of value is obviously apparent, noticeably poor social skills or fat or lazy. Or if a girl has spoken to you for a time and managed to get an idea of your general bracket of income. You literally can't fake it and then just look like you're ignoring it. Then your words and reality simply do not match. And frankly, you'll be hard-pressed to find a person who doesn't consider you pitiful in that regard. If you're developed enough to actually fake it sure. But you still need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:30 PM
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Pause. Someone in this sub who claims RP and is actually RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:11 PM
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I am the prize mentality is important when you've become a reliable judge of self(which most people aren't) otherwise, you are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:08 PM
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Most people do not talk to lovers the same way they talk to friends. People say this type of thing so often but there is an entire set of lover exclusively behaviors someone has. A typically nice person, may catch feelings and some ugly habits start to rear their head as a result. Romantic or sexual emotional investment creates an entire environment that's very different from just the platonic one. Maybe they have specific opinions on dating that they hide from the friends group exactly because …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:39 PM
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If the need in return is a companion itself and not a specific lifestyle then everything I said still applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:45 PM
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Sapiosexuals sexual and romantic arousal is directed correlated with intelligence. The female mind and emotional state are not strictly separate from the sexual state. So long as she attracted to that trait in you and doesn't just "lIkE iT" you can convert it into sexual energy. Part of the Redpill is exactly about that. Part of the DEVI sex God method is exactly putting emotions into a sexual frame and creating sexual desire off of that basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:44 PM
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Yes. Culminated can be used as another word for created in this context. Generated, inspired, etc. it can be made over time. It can deepen over time. It cannot be forced or negotiated. "Otherwise it's settling" I already said settling to doesn't mean no desire. It's settling but it can be made to be as fulfilling as a first option.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:38 PM
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That also means she's actually truly attracted to that type. Sapiosexual. Which defeats your argument because my point is that she's truly attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:36 PM
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I mean. That's cool. Deep meaningful and true desire that's fulfilling that be created. People act like just because you get into it that way it HAS to say that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:32 PM
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I mean settling doesn't necessarily mean the person they're with isn't undesirable to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:08 PM
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Lol. Not really. If all she was ever gonna use him for is sex she would have never gotten with him. Women put a bigger onus on the looks department when looking for sexual relationships over romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:06 PM
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Yep completely agree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:17 PM
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Parents get exhausted with children they love. And well if you're putting effort into a child that is simple too disobedient you may send them to a military or disciplinary school or just send them to live elsewhere. It isn't uncommon..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:15 AM
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Tbh passion can be developed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:05 AM
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Agree that there are numerous ways to achieve it but people always want what they want. Don't waste their time lol 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:11 AM
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I mean like you don't need to go all in. But even as a general claim, something spoken in passing. Essentially, on its face it's still nonsensical. 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:12 PM
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Well I mean "SEEMING dishonest" is just that. It still stands that real attraction can absolutely be directed at someone who is not considered attractive. It's also not charity if she was just plainly attracted. IDK why you think acknowledging your partners objective looks and actually being attracted to them are mutually exclusive. No rule anywhere says this. For example: Jay Z is ugly. Beyonce (early solo career) for a majority of their relationship was richer than him, him being the richer of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:09 PM
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I don't think you're actually proving your point or how wide spread it is with that claim. The claim that something exists to an unknowable extent is simple and that's all you've proven. The claim that something is widespread needs a certain level of empirical truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:48 PM
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Settling doesn't mean no attraction. And tbh you can also settle for someone who is above average simply bc they weren't ur first choice. The point remains is that objective attraction isn't always 1 to 1 with personal attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:25 PM
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Kind of? If they can sexually excite you and you can get off from them and are EAGER for it, I'm pretty sure definitionally attraction of some sort atleast from psychological standpoint. That doesn't stop them from realistically being someone to fall short of most expectations out in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:55 PM
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Calculated facts are this: a majority of men in relationships are average. A percentage of 20% or less simply has an ABSURDLY easy time getting female attention. Not that the 20% takes all available women. Just that the 20% are 80% more likely to get attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:50 PM
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???? None of the things you said inherently connect. You're likely never going to run out of practical info to apply. You do one thing but there is always still improvement. You're decades into the RP by the time you've applied all of the info and by that time you've also examined everything you have to be curious about. And a lack of curiosity beyond the info doesn't mean it's a "byproduct that doesnt matter" whatever something like that is even supposed to mean. You'd need to explain why curio…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:45 PM
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Yes, when you speak implicitly you're the only one guaranteed to catch the inquiry. Don't waste either of our time and be direct. I guess. Purpose of the question? Because I've already said men and women aren't too different. Ignoring the fact that women almost never actively pursue friendships with men and it's really only men that do it and for one reason really. Women are generally more likely to use the term friend loosely and literally accept anyone into a friend group on a whim and men gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:39 PM
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I'm sorry but most the comments here will outright tell you they stick around because the information is practical to help their frustration. Curiosity might exist but it's negligible as it's not any motivating factor for most. And if you're looking for information out of something curiosity is natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:28 PM
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I want to know just how much of this sub is autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:25 PM
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Are you less awkward?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:24 PM
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Most of the time if you come in frustrated those feelings linger. They don't suddenly disappear and get replaced with curiosity. Be so fr.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:24 PM
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We already went over this. That's why men bother to befriend women. To hopefully have sex and intimacy. Very rarely do men just have female friends just because.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:17 PM
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Well luckily that's only one woman. And most women don't. But like the "first date" isn't universally paced. Sometimes the first date happens after a lot of meetings and talking. Sometimes the first date is when you two first get to actually know each other at all. Naturally having sex on the first date is wildly different in these two situations. Second. Women as a very generally rule are not viscerally attracted to men. In most cases a woman builds attraction to a guy. And like it's not even a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:27 PM
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Definitely..so everyone knows what's up. Why are we wasting time
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:05 PM
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This too. Women's definition of friend is looser.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:14 PM
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Social media is addictive to pretty much most people nowadays. Withdrawal is real. They'll adjust as the brain's plasticity is such.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:13 PM
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I mean. No. First and foremost that's not a sinister behavior. Second It's just that generally speaking a lot of guys are friends with women because they are trying to date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:36 PM
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It's based on how attracted they are. And tbh. He's not your friend 😭. He was tryna fuck that's how you ended up friends so its definitely not off the table for that type of behavior at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:26 PM
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Tbh. Women like ego boost and I mean love it. But the ability to go long bouts or indefinitely without it isn't mutually exclusive. Lmaooo. Women are really good at going without.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:17 PM
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It's also unfortunately a canon event for all, and I do mean all, women to have ATLEAST one guy who's told her he loved her to get her to smash
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:24 PM
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Women often mean get to know them. When they say be friends. Or she genuinely just isn't attracted to you and wants to see if being friendly can develop that attraction. Or yk the myriad of other responses here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:23 PM
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Reasonable but never fun. Losing a connection is never that. But it's also a logical understandable thing you can't fault someone for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:12 PM
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You can if you want. Settle or don't. I care not what you do. Just that it's not all bad for you and that you have things you can do in any given situation to make the outcome better. If she's low attraction I'm saying you can create high attraction in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:11 PM
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Not necessarily actually loves him but definitely had a more visceral attraction. Yes, women can, without love, be viscerally attracted to a man the way a man is a woman. It's just extremely rare. The craziest part about you redpillers saying this is that the Redpill praxeology agrees that you can create(not negotiate) that same visceral attraction in the woman you're with. Meaning that if she made it easier for him, yeah she was more attracted but that doesn't mean you can't inspire the same in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:43 PM
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When women have insisted they were lonely. The immediate assumption is that she overlooked men without knowing if she's actually particularly desirable or not. Like without fail the men here do not question if she's a particularly undesirable woman. And if she is they just default, you ignored the men in that league. Shit half of the men in that league don't even want the women there. What they do is literally to the effect of saying "real femcels don't exist".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:54 PM
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On the opposite end. If she's putting you in the friends category it's because you weren't attractive, not because you were friendly. You stop being friendly now you're unfriendly and also still unattractive. Being friendly does nothing for you if you're hot. Being mean definitely hurts your chances if you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:18 AM
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How do?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:15 AM
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I mean. There will always be a subset of people who don't reap all of the benefits of society. You can probably gain them if tried. It shouldn't be that way. But as I said, less than 30% of all men out of the 4 billion are chronically alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:12 AM
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None of this matters if we go so hard the human race becomes unable to preserve itself. Which would be the end result of your position. And well the whole mechanic of attraction was given to us by evolution for the sake of propagating. It's kinda useless to prioritize that to the point of usurping it's function in the first place. Ignoring the fact that I'm inclined to think you're under a lot of misconceptions about how attractiveness actually works in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:12 AM
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I think you're mixing up reality with a lot of internet talk. A majority of people in relationships end up between people with relative SMV matches. Men have always had a hard time getting female attention, that's never going to change. But the idea that it's a barren waste with how hard it is, doesn't actually track by any data metric. A majority of the male population does date and have sex. So like the problem actually isn't even so bad that you have to suggest this solution. If anything wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:58 AM
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Bro you're a Redpiller. You already know that it's NATURAL for it to work one way. What are you complaining about? If you were mad women insisted that men didn't get any mockery for this sure. Shy incapable men have been a laughing stock long before feminism and even outside of the company of women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:33 AM
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That's irrelevant. As in desperation itself doesn't automatically translate to a lack of moderation. This assumes that this behavior comes from starvation. Genetic data specifically tracking y lineages, shows that there are certain points in history men in general, as in the general bulk of male populations not the handful of lucky few, didn't have a shortage of partners and had sex a fair bit. That didn't stop men from fooling around and making babies however. So the idea that the lack of moder…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:28 AM
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So you're doing this strictly based on what's attractive to the opposite gender? We're not actually breeding on quality? I mean because if we want to talk about general athleticism the optimal height without becoming unwieldy is like 5'10. Anything taller becomes unwieldy, bad balance and bad speed. Hot doesn't mean smart either. We are already heading towards the Idiocracy. I don't think we need to breed exclusively for physical attractiveness if we're going to focus on breeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:17 AM
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It takes two people to make a baby but you're only asking women to not do the right thing? Women won't choose men that don't approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:10 AM
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Not really? The only reason OP called attention to the interview and wrote this post is be they felt that women's achievements were being undermined by being compared to men. It's essentially a specific example of a general thing OP doesn't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:15 AM
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It's not because they think there is no genetic difference between men and women. It's because most don't want any sort of defined musculature at all. Take a woman like Leanbeefpatty. She's what realistic musculature on a woman would look like. She's nothing insane and very achievable for a lot of women. Looks normal in regular fitted clothes. Most women don't even want to look like that. Lol She would be called too muscular. Beyonce was literally called too muscular in her early career. It wasn…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:26 AM
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Tbhhhhhhh...... Just go to the comment section of women's sports yt vids If someone goes "wow difficult" There will some gremlin going "WhElL a MaN cOuLD, DO iT BetTer", Just saying not letting a person stand on their own without comparison is also putting someone down. But yeah the Serena interview doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:12 AM
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Mind you, Russia's replacement rate was bad but the russo-ukraine war basically fucked Russia they are currently losing the men in numbers to even sustain the infrastructure of their country. There are significantly more deaths than births. So what is Russia going to use its remaining female population? This also seems to be the funny thing with all of these "men stronger societies" most of them as far as the modern day goes are always under risk of collapsing in on themselves before even having…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:17 AM
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Selfish isn't the worst thing to be in the world. It's so massively different from being say self-centered or narc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:08 AM
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Being good at communicating what gets you off doesn't make up for a lack of skill. And the fact that a lot of women actually do communicate and get ignored anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:07 AM
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Just so you know. If you get flagged with a grape case this way you did that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:51 AM
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I mean the attitude predates feminism. It likely would've stayed around with out without feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:18 AM
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I'll say this. As humans we all desire a little bit of worship. It's called validation and getting it in a relationship is normal and healthy to an extent. Men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:17 AM
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Which would you view as a greater "evil"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:14 AM
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I argue against the testosterone guided tendency for men to overwhelmingly desire sex more than women Basically the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:08 AM
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My issue with this always comes back to: Women excluding men is just women actually choosing who they get to date. So like is the solution compromising sexual autonomy and being somewhere miserable to help the man and then what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 11:58 PM
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This doesn't even make sense. You like vetting in reverse. You don't assume an entire gender is a way but somehow all of the people you're talking to aren't until they are. Being mad at a gender almost implies morality. May as well call a tornado or earthquake Satan atp. If you don't operate off of your truths about the genders when you date them then you don't filter the right ones
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 11:54 PM
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I don't think you'll outbreed them. There is a big difference between progressive and conservatives. Pretty much most conservatives have been raised as such. Most progressives have been raised as conservatives and most of the times progressivism.has appeared en masse, it wasn't due to being instilled with those ideals from a young age. Really, interacting with the demographics that progressivism tends to protect, aside from moral pandering, oh and intellectualism is like one of the biggest conve…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:19 PM
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Redpill praxeology gives us this gem: all women are freaks for the men they wanna be freaks for. A lack of performance is if not for obvious health or mental reasons is a reflection of a lack of attraction to the man. Redpill frames this exactly as a failure on his end.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:59 PM
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I mean wanting quality sex doesn't mean you're not a horndog. Guys kinda are horndogs when compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:55 PM
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I never heard of this trend. I think some of you are just on the ragebaiting side of the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 01:53 AM
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I don't get it but you literally repeat most of what I said in an attempt to explain to me. The stats are new, As I've said. The idea that the top percentage of men get most women is not new, AS I'VE SAID. I don't know seems like I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'm not denying the idea of a skew but integrating a normal distribution doesn't naturally give 80/20. Normal distributions are symmetric, so the top 20% never accounts for 80% of the total — the skew isn’t strong enough. Pareto distributions can prod…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 01:46 AM
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The idea the women like the most successful man is an age old concept. Men ideally prefer the best woman in metrics that are considered feminine. That's an age old concept. The idea that 20% of men get 80% of partners is a very new stat. The offset was never as extreme as 80/20 and it's to say 20% of men get 80% of attention in any given circumstance. Not that they get 80% of all available partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:44 PM
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I think that's kind of what the post implies when it says "you were trying to fuck and didn't really value the friendship". The the post covers the basis of this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:20 PM
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We know you're a Redpiller stop lying
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:19 PM
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Anyway you got those studies from her. Malicious compliance is definitely the name
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:16 AM
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I think the patterns you're noticing are colored by pre-existing bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:13 AM
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I mean skeletons in the closet don't have to be rapist pedos though. 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:12 AM
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Tbvh. I don't think I give two fucks about these opinions and thoughts and feelings. I mean I do but I don't think it's enough to be a deterrent. Y'all need to get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:10 AM
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So do you think Andrew tate is a clown or that they should be taking his advice. I mean at the end of the day mostly people consume RO through the worst avenues. It'd be disingenuous to not conclude that random tiktok grifters Tate and FnF are the main ways RP spreads.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 06:22 PM
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Realistically if he's an older man that can actually get younger women. He's above average in some metrics. Which likely means he can attract another in the first place. Not only that but younger doesn't always mean more attractive Young and ugly hurts your odds a lot. And also older men typically have wives and do not engage seriously with younger women to even have that much weight or care about cheating. It's very rare that an older man who isn't attractive enough to have some sort of leverag…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 03:29 PM
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This completely ignores that they are currently the largest source ("follower") of the RP. They are how most people find it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:23 PM
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That joke got my account a mf warning. 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:23 PM
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An LTG pfp and it goes over your head. Anyways I'm not a mf alt. At least not that guy's alt. 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:15 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:12 PM
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I mean RP itself is a thing but if you look at most men RN they absorb it through fresh and fit and look at how they teach sexual dynamics. Nothing about Redpill dictates that you NEED to sleep with 50 women to know how to maintain an LTR. Talking to a lot of women to know their game is one thing. But FnF say stupid shit like that. They pretty much take RP concepts and explain them in the worst way possible, bastardize them. Most guys nowadays learn RP through guys who don't even teach RP correc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:11 PM
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Highest voted of some random internet poll with a sample size of God knows how small because that's definitely a sound way of finding out things about demographics (this is sarcasm btw). Those men are also typically men who were heartthrobs when they were younger lol. Leo D is not nearly as attractive to women today as he was when he was young. Same with Brad Pitt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:02 PM
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If it's by choice, then effect of structure becomes dubious. Regardless of the societal structure, younger people will prefer younger people, because that's their choice. I do not if you're trying to say "if younger people talked to older people more..." They don't want to they generally don't find you appealing enough to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:05 PM
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So the 80/20 rule. Is often misread and misused. It's that 20% of men get 80% more attention from women than the rest of men. It's not that non-20% get no attention at all. It's not that 20% of men get 80% of all partners It's that a small subset of men is specifically more likely to be noticed not that they are directly getting picked 80% of the time It's also specifically a dating APP rule. 60% of all relationships happen online. A little over half. So that still alot that don't. Of that 60%, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:36 PM
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Gang. You're seen that way specifically because you are black. Not just a man you shouldn't conflate your issues with theirs just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:22 PM
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If most women preferred older men, the average relationship would happen with wider age gaps. But they don't. It trends that most relationships occur with people who are around the same age. If older men were a hot commodity this wouldn't be true. There is nothing that suggests women prefer older men. Atp that you don't want to engage with data we're not engaging with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:39 PM
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Yes. And in this free country you have a choice of what you are exposed to as an adult. They aren't being FORCED to stay away from older men. It's by choice younger people prefer younger people in everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:36 PM
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So the older man vs younger man stats are like this. Older men are GENERALLY more likely to have more resources than younger men. But it doesn't track that if you take any older man's and compare him to a younger man that he will almost always have more resources than the younger man. No. Older men trend towards with more. That doesn't mean most older men will have more wealth to are two statistically distinct ideas. But wealth distribution, especially in America is skewed. If there are older me…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:25 PM
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Statistically speaking most relationships occur with a 3-5 year age gap if there is an age gap. Next is 7 years. Beyond that the drop off is extreme anything more than 7 years is very uncommon. Women find older attractive exclusively within the realm that they've developed into attractive men with resources. Which isn't most older men. Younger men when it comes to looks to significantly more attractice to younger women. Raw attraction, essentially. Not any artificial buffs like status and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:38 PM
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A population can think anything. It doesn't mean it's correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:02 PM
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So basically men and women are different and we should hire based on only merit. Simple idea enough. Hiring and educational policies mostly don't have quotas, not hard ones, they have to meet so they aren't FORCED to fill jobs with certain demographics be it gendered or racial demographics. Which is why men still make up most the job force. Hiring and educational policies assert that you cant decriminate on the basis of sex or race or religion. That's it. It's just saying you can't say "no" simp…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:54 PM
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I'm trying to figure out if this stuff is good for you or not. I don't ever see pepe memes or redpillers be honest about any of this. They just deny any of this is true
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:19 PM
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I just wonder what this even means. Because what is equity politics. I mean fairer divorce and custody rulings, cool. False allegation rulings. Beyond that what actual legislation needs to be changed. What does equity even mean in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:16 PM
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And like. From the 1930s-1960s was the only time in human history where a majority of women stayed to the home. Specifically in America and parts of Europe and even then a third of the female population worked. Before then both men and women worked in factories. Women overwhelmingly in textiles factories, match shops and mills. Before then part of domestic work was joining your husband on the fields in agrarian societies. The only reason that the 1930s-1960s economy existed at all is due to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:10 PM
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LMAOOO. Who are you finishing with "rapeslut". That's some shit you say when you don't actually know how to throw insults. 😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:18 PM
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We got the bad man. The slime-you-out guy. The tough guy. The fighter. He'll fuck you up. Call you a ho because you called him slow.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:13 PM
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I mean that's fundamentally different from what's being said with OP. It's pretty much saying that exactly that. It's not all men but if this shit happens to you it's going to be a man doing it. That doesn't assert that all men do it, it establishs a trend. Moreover alot of these situations aren't even describing completely and total outliers in male behavior. Most of it is typically lying and stealing and cheating. Most of the dating population regardless of gender does this stuff if we being r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:52 PM
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This is what I love about PPD. In theory it's true if we look at humans as static and strictly adherent to the SMV logic. In reality women who shouldn't qualify for good men qualify every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:25 AM
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Tbh. No one is subhuman. Incels don't know what an actual lack of human rights is like. Let's not pretend anyone knows what sub human treatment truly is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:06 PM
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I mean the onus is on the rejected to figure if they want to maintain a friendship or not. It hurts so splitting is understandable. I wouldn't judge. Having been in this situation before: I made an active choice to stick around because I still valued the friendship. I just got over it and went to a different pasture. Still friends today. No more attraction though. If I actually valued them as a friend. Then feelings just got in the way of that in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:04 PM
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First ans foremost most women don't maintain male roommates at all exactly for sex and romantically reasons. Atp you're seriously trying to pigeon holes these women into a particular circumstance for a particular reply. I personally wouldn't keep someone as a friend if they expressed a crush for me and it'd hurt too bad to be around me. If THEY make the choice to still want to be friends that's their incentive. I'd advise against it. But if they can carry on so could I.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:00 PM
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You still haven't proven that the claim is false despite all of this. Every single investigation and most criminal convictions on conflict of interests are based on an honest look on the incentives. "By itself", I said. Conflicts of interest by themselves are not used to make rulings. They are used to corroborate already existing (often tangible) evidence of a crime. By your logic we still need prove that the council would do this. Your tobacco analogy would be a fair example if it wasn't alread…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:40 PM
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This logic can be reversed. Why would the administration that cozies up to real self-proclaimed neonazis have an honest stance on immigration? How do we know they aren't lying about the idea that immigrants commit alot of crime? We already have a proof that these people are locking up law abiding legal citizens. Not only that but them being an immigration board doesn't inherently mean that they are pedaling false information in favor of immigrants. That's a fallacy. The immigration council could…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:08 PM
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Yeah. And I was enjoying this one too. Ima have to tap out. 😭 Reddit won't let me send my actual reply. Tried restarting it and all. I cannot be bothered to see what the censors are picking up if that's the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:26 PM
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Reddit hates me x2
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:15 PM
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As I was typing this: I found myself coming back to one thing: logistics. Most prehistoric humans, as I said weren't dumb. Intra-tribal violence was extremely rare. Even if you eradicated another tribe. You still lost a bulk of your very unnecessary and irreplaceable tribe members. Which would cause the slow death of the group at large. You could take the women and procreate but how long before those children are working and not just resources drains? Opportunity cost is not too hot. Most of pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:39 AM
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Reddit hates me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:35 AM
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A lot more than people would like to believe. Foraging wasn't an easy skill. It made up a bulk groups diet. Also was the source of materials that would be use to make homes and tools for their survival. Women were the ones processing this into insulation all sorts of clays for textiles. As well as women's foraging skills being what came to form the earliest form of agriculture in human history. Males mostly hunted. And they'd be out for days or weeks at a time. Both foraging and hunting if you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:20 AM
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Because conservativism isn't just a movement that advocates for a sort of insulation that may ensure protection. If it was JUST that more women might vote for it but it isn't. Mostly because conservativism's most outspoken voices don't even believe women should vote and should stay solely in the home. People in the current cabinet tend to espouse directly or share relationships with people who espouse these ideas. And if you know the history of conservativism, it's ideologically in league with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:53 PM
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Why is the immigration council far-left and why is it unreliable?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:35 PM
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Actually there were studying done on gossiping between the genders. You should look them up. I think you'll see some interesting conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:31 PM
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I mean it's also true that studies use LTRs to fill in gaps exactly because of what I said. Marriages follow LTRs first and foremost. Not the over way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:02 PM
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A marriage is an LTR before it's a marriage. Marriages follow the trends of LTRs. Most studies exactly use LTRs as predictions for marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:46 PM
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I know about the study I was pissing at you saying danger vs likelihood. All assaults are dangerous. Probably not gonna do that again. Hundreds of years ago relationships advice included how to flog your wife. A simple slap. Look up medieval household manuals on how to discipline wives. At the same time "don't hit women" messaging was prevalent. "Don't hit women" messaging is prevalent in Muslim cultures and has been since its inception and even written into the hadiths but it stops nothing. A m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:41 PM
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Over estimating the likelihood of assault or danger? Because I don't know of non-dangerous assault. Either way it has nothing l to do with what you said. There isn't reliable data on how likely a man is to use force on a woman in a conflict. Data of women over estimations of occurrence is a completely different metric.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:32 PM
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LTR trends tend to follow marriage trends lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:52 PM
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There actually isn't data to reliably suggest that to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:50 PM
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Males die to males because they are more likely to be victims of criminals, like thats MOST male on male murder. Like they just get targeted by people who had wrong intent from the jump. And also more likely to run with people who will do that type of thing. Not because males will get into a conflict with other males and are just going to escalate to lethality that much more often. There isn't any reliable data to say a man in a conflict with women won't use enough force to harm her. My whole th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:23 PM
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I mean why would I be talking about casual confrontations? A majority of them don't end up violent regardless of the party. Men are less likely but by how much? Because I see guys deck chicks nowadays. Even still. As a man you're likely to defend yourself from any given male attacker. As a woman that's not given. Trying to say "well he's not likely to use force" isn't really how anyone assesses violence. It's more so "what can I do to avoid or if I get into it what do I do".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:55 PM
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And when I say confront I don't even mean they started it. I just mean the confrontation is occurring. As far as what a woman is physically capable of doing to a man and vice versa. It's more dangerous for a woman. A man against a guy twice his size is still capable of absorbing shock from blows and a whole other set of things better than any woman ever will. Even if he's weaker than the guy he's up against he's still significantly better for it than the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:45 PM
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I mean doing the things men have done for thousands of years and why grandmas even put the feminist talk in women ear...bc they didn't want them to be like them. Is definitely going to make women behave .it definitely will
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:27 PM
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They do but the difference is if you confront a man there is a good chance you'll walk away mostly fine. The odds of that for a woman are low
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:26 PM
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It's 2025 and we haven't figured out they need articles to sensationalize literally anything. And if it's not Ground News it's extremely divisive and biased? News articles will see a few kids put glitter in their eyes then call it a trend sweeping the country. ← this happened. I mean this happens with a MAJORITY of news in America. It's actually absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:25 PM
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"date the avg man" Most do I mean like most people who end up in relationships end up in relationships with someone in their tax bracket overwhelmingly. Let me let you in on a secret. Dating the avg man doesn't mean she'll be compatible with them. The avg person doesn't have relationships management skills regardless of gender. And even better. The social skills of the avg man have been going into the dumpster. And I'll tell you this. People with bad social skills are exceedingly bad to date a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:22 PM
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As most self proclaimed redpillers are. There is a reason why on the RP sub(before it was deleted) and the MRP sub(it's still around) they say "most of you won't make it" A majority of men who end up in the RP spaces never actually come away getting more women or come away a better quality person or anything. They may make superficial changes like getting physically hotter. But they mostly end up staying in the "rp rage phase" and going "Rambo" which actually hurts their success with women. I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:54 PM
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It can. But not exclusively. A Relationships main compatibility can also come from being contrasting in complementary ways that create natural balance. Both are extremely common forms of compatibility. Two people can have core personality traits as with your yin yang but they don't have to. But an alignment in values and mutual respect are literally the BNb that tie most relationships together. Since the post is originally talking about what to look for in dating. All of this personality talk is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:03 PM
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Sure. Whether you identify the "core" personality traits or not they remain the same. Some people genuinely just like energy they don't have. If both are like that then they both provide something to each other they themselves lack. 😭 I dunno what else to tell you. People are all different. Everyone has something their partner doesn't in terms of traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:49 PM
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I am now questioning your understanding of what a "core character trait" is. Because handling responsibilities that are necessary to maintain a relationship isn't necessarily a character trait. Love, respect, honesty, sexual compatibility, financial competency are the fundamental things needed to maintain a good relationship. Outside of this people can be completely different so long as those differences are compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:37 PM
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What if my partner is a high energy person that wants a low energy person to level it out and I also like that dyanmic as a lower energy person? Not all character traits HAVE to be mutual. There are ones like HONESTY that should be mutual. But we're not the same person. We shouldn't all have the same traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:50 PM
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What if my partner is a high energy person that wants a low energy person to level it out and vice versa? Not all character traits HAVE to be mutual. There are ones like HONEST that should be mutual. But we're not the same person. We shouldn't all have the same traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:50 PM
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I'm not denying that. You shouldn't be pushy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:46 PM
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Men have absurdly high suicide rates compared to women. And a big thing about depression is saying you're okay without actually being okay. Edit: depression is also very common now more than ever. Most people are genuinely not okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:42 PM
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Oh. okay I gotcha. Also OP already said in their social circle. They framed it very much as an anecdote with awareness from the onset.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:40 PM
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So according to the data the over 60% of people (using the men's stat as the minimum) care heavily about a job or career they like. And less than 30%(using the men's stat again) care about family and kids as an important thing at all. It also happens to be true that men trend towards caring about family and children more than women. Doesn't that technically mean that men still overwhelmingly don't care about birth rates but simply care more relative to women? And the point of the post is that me…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:04 PM
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I mean what's the point of the question if we're only acknowledging framing that agree with you? It's typically true in MOST topics that go on here that you and other posters are absolutely conflating the extremes of men and women. Hell even redpilled ideology doesn't tell you to go COMPLETELY cold. Proper ideology tells you when to show BP traits and to even it out with RP traits. Feelz is for the relationship. Tingles is for the sex. Feelz is bp. Tingles is rp. You do both to have a rounded dy…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:15 PM
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Nah but if you have enough experience to discern ur def ran through.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:10 PM
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There is a way to come off as detached and cool most of you come off as socially inept if that's what you're getting at here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 03:53 PM
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So pretty much every big person studies big five, mbti data,etc Says men and women experience introversion (and extroversion) at similar rates. Like recharge in the sense of introversion and extroversion is a general isn't actually how after a certain extent they experience social burn out and how do they take a break and come back. Recharge is like how they tend to prefer their time spent overall and how they engage with things and what typically makes them feel high energy. It's not true that …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 12:00 AM
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Okay so do we know what "introverted", means? Because saying EVERY man is introverted is crazy. being shy or unconfident in social conversations is not introversion. That's just being shy or socially inept. Introversion =/= someone who just doesn't know how to socialize.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 09:57 PM
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I dunno man. I hear guys talking Abt their GFs a little too often
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:53 PM
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Not really? Most men will tell you there are women they objectively think are more attractive than their girlfriends. They just love her the most and find her the most attractive because of that love. But pure looks wise plenty of guys would admit there is hotter. Just not to her face.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:18 PM
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Yeah but considering the fact that the overwhelming majority don't want kids at all....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:21 PM
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Only 22% of the employed male population works infrastructure tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:20 PM
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Craziestpart about this is that in most traditional societies. House work and outdoors work intersected for thousands of years. Men doing house cleaning was not an uncommon sight for the commoner. Women working fields was not an uncommon sight for the commoner. Commoner households were rather egalitarian in roles even if there was a work divide. If cleaning and childrearing were too much the men did do cooking quite a bit. Heavy duty cleaning like deep scrubbing floors and ovens and beating rugs…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:51 PM
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I mean if I recall a majority of the male population (US) doesn't have extremely high stress jobs and works largely the same sort of jobs. .most guys work regularly degular jobs same types as their female counterparts and still pay most the bills
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:41 PM
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Most surveys say men want kids Abt like 30% more than women but overwhelmingly no one of either gender wants kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:38 PM
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That doesn't really mean that reflects the entire dating market as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:56 AM
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25% of tinders active user base is female. Women are massively outnumbered for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:42 AM
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So European women only fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 05:54 PM
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Depending on the narrative I want to paint that day, either or. 🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 05:34 PM
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So I'm fallen to wokeness because I want someone to respect themselves enough to not talk like they're trying to write a Bible verse? Edit: I don't know if you're joking or not. I pray that you are but here is this in the event that you are not
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 05:18 PM
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LLLLMMMAAAOOOOO This sub needs to be deleted. I mean I have fun doing the ridiculous arguments but the amount of schizo posting that goes on here is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 05:13 PM
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Yeah but the terms alpha and beta were coined while talking about wolves. In chimp groups the dominant males gets favor with females MOSTLY because he can literally bully other males from mating. THEN it is true that females might choose him for protection and resources. That he gives bc he managed to drive other males away from the resources. In the chimp(our closest relative) societies your alphaness is absolutely dependent on your ability to compete with other males. Females once again do giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:12 PM
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Eh? Using the terms alpha and beta aren't actually complex either. You could replace the word alpha with a natural leader A lot of red pill content actually does. The point remains the same that there is a different reception between those people and those who are not inclined to natural leadership. So you don't actually disagree with anything fundamentally. You just don't like the words used to describe it. But yeah RP does do alot of mystifying of basic psych.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:11 PM
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I mean no not real. Alpha and beta are just words. It's better to say Socially dominant vs socially lower status which can be relative. Whether there are a set of traits that define it or not I don't think matters. Socially dominant people have a leg up on the others in their group. It's not a title that bestowed, it just happens. In every social group someone gets more attention or more say in what the group does. It may not be true that the group literally values that person more than others b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:04 PM
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Tbh. It's more than that. Someone who isn't overtly weak but not particularly strong, not short but not particularly tall, no effeminate but not super masculine, average confidence.. pretty much average guy isn't alpha either. Alpha is a title earned when compared to other males. You're not alpha by virtue of having traits that attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:57 PM
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What does that have to do with what I said? And how is any of that relevant or necessary?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 05:24 AM
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And apparently you can mind read to make the claim that you did huh? Or does this mean that what you're saying simply can't be proven to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:38 AM
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That's not deductive reasoning. Alot of women genuinely think men are monsters or simply aren't worth it if they don't find them attractive. There is also another secret: most people who shit talk and denigrate others don't really have a reason to and when asked they go around scrambling for excuses. It's also been shown that men and women tend not to enjoy being denigrate if they are the subject and it's not a joke. Everyone likes it until it's them. Not only that but group think motivates bad …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:38 AM
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Even if our definitions were different you said: if you denigrate people online it's because ur obfuscating from your own failure and tricking people into fixing them. This is such a specific claim. This needs to be proven true and not just true but GENERALLY true of people who denigrate others. Then you say women do this because their success is exaggerated. Give a bunch of ways as to how women aren't that successful. But do nothing actually tell us how you know that these are the reasons women…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:07 AM
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You making this claim doesn't make it true.. Based on what evidence is this true most or even half of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:02 AM
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This is not true at all. This is fake deep fake psychology talk. Some people can hate for that reason but not always or even most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:29 AM
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I don't think that inherently has anything to do with it. My issue with this argument is that even if those stats you posted are true. There is no effective way to prove that these reasons are why women shit talk men. like they can't be correlated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:28 AM
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Tbh I don't think that's why. I think they just dislike men. Or well anyone who hates on someone is usually just doing it for that sake. Hating on them, not to make themselves feel better or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:15 AM
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There definitely are, more than these two too. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12313963/ https://phys.org/news/2023-04-sexual-restraint-dating-years-linked.pdf And human pair bonding is an acknowledged And universally accepted phenomenon within the scientific community. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37372130/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26146650/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11345585/ It is also well acknowledged that life style can absolutely affect this ability to pair bond w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:31 PM
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My point is that the safety isn't indicative of SOCIETY not giving men chances. It's indicative of men not allowing themselves chance. Because you said the safety net proves men aren't allowed chances in general society. https://www.fda.gov/media/87621/download Women with childbearing potential. This was the average adult woman. All women unless proven otherwise have childbearing potential. This basis was how women got massively excluded. No. Women are often dismissed without standard testing. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:24 PM
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"women are generally more risk adverse than men" That's....my point. Why are you repeating me so much. They're less likely to take chances that negatively affect them. Which is why they fail less. And also no men are actually more financial risk takers than women too. Pretty sure there are stats on this one. Not sure though. Partly because they are less risk adverse. And MOSTLY because the FDA since the 70s has been discouraging female testing. As said, there is more evidence to suggest exclusio…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:50 PM
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Uh? My point is that men get less aid exactly because they partake in it less. My point exactly is that the safety nets aren't skewed towards women because society gives men less chances but because men actively refuse to take chances. I will say women fail less exactly because they are more consistent with seeking out safety nets. First, women are more likely to cohabitate with their parents long term. Second, women are taught to take advantage of safety nets from a young age. They create a who…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:24 PM
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But to be fair on this. "Deep conversations" aren't the role of the romantic partner either. Most of the time this type of thing is allocated to friends and family, ironically enough. Most people male or female who do have a person to talk to will find it mostly in a close friend even if they have a trustworthy lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:36 PM
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There is a VOCAL minority who say this. Or say it to piss at women but like ask most men to be honest about their relationships they hang with their bros but that's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:26 PM
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The sickest part is that we're not projected to have an AI that can simulate humans realistically any time soon as in: don't be certain it'll even happen in the next 200 years. We cant replicate muscles completely. Most of the tech that would make a bot stand up right walk and perform a full range of human motion would be clunky and large. My theory is that it's probably physically impossible to make something completely mechanical that's that small. Then the battery. Whether it's detachable bat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:59 PM
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WHY ARE YOU TROLLING. 😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:50 PM
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"if men were truly given more chances in overall life it's reflected in society's safety net" Depends on how you mean this. Women using more social safety nets is exactly that. Men tend not to pursue them just as much. That's not reflective of those safety nets refusing to include men or not give them chances. Mind you it was men who were most excited about Trump's round of cuts to those safety nets. Like healthcare for example: men are less likely to go see a doctor. Women are more likely but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:45 PM
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If the evidence is there we can't call it garbage anymore. Proof that the female skeleton was denser and stronger in prehistoric eras than in modern eras. Also that they likely carried more muscle. Also bone degeneration and what suggests extreme labor: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29209662/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15022359/ https://cordis.europa.eu/article/id/122724-prehistoric-womens-skeletons-show-impact-of-rigorous-manual-labour To summarize this. Hunting was episodic and could ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:14 PM
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The largest common age gap is 7 years. Anything beyond that is just rare dude. For the most part young girls don't want a guy an entire decade older. Like even in ancient history young girls were mostly being married off to a guy no older than 25. And a guy being 30 and dating young would be the laughingstock subject of a Greek comedy. She often gained sympathy for having an older partner. Wanting nothing to do with older men is common normal and natural. Age aversion is natural. If you can stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:13 AM
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If no one is going to actually explain points this conversation is to utterly useless hang it up
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:04 AM
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It's not splitting hairs though. Men don't typically Ltr women below their league. Whether you say hook up or try out for a few months it's typically not done with the intent of an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:03 AM
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So are you saying this simply because you don't think so or because you know this as a studied fact not to be the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:33 AM
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I'd agree only if anthropology and history pretty much prove that both males and females will create infrastructure in the absence of the opposite sex and without the reasonable expectation of sex. Most humans desire to live regardless of mating opportunities or expectations. You are more likely to survive with infrastructure than without. By a large margin. Humans also have an instinct to prioritize groups regardless of the likelihood of personal benefit like a mate. And I think your premise ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:17 AM
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Tbh. From partying to drugs to sex to masturbation. Anything that has a large oxytocin or dopamine release CAN affect pairbonding if done too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:25 AM
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You're either unattractive and/or unsociable. And they're using boyfriend as excuse because men tend not to back off after a no. That and well that's only twenty times and within what time frame at what place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:23 AM
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It's also because a loss of social skills has been observed for a decade now and it overwhelmingly affects men. Sorry to tell you but the chronically online MFS that don't develop sufficient social skills are overwhelmingly men and men as a whole a becoming more like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:20 AM
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Because the question kind asked the structure of male leadership. How it actually manifests in practice and function. You just said women are passive which doesn't inherently make a guy a leader. Then just mentioned a bunch of general traits all of which can boil down to initiate, have a plan. Not how these things actually manifest in a relationship. Given how they named tasks the women typically do. And tbh some of these aren't necessarily leadership skills like looking past flaws. Moving based…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 05:19 AM
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You can have full agency while still giving """consent""" based on distorted perceptions due to manipulation. I also think everything is a spectrum and depends on age. For example people say brain development but your hormones have a worse effect on your day by day emotional and mental state than simply not having a fully developed brain. Hormonal imbalance can literally drive people to legitimate violence. It's what affects day by day risk-taking, emotional regulation, etc, etc. It's why teens …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 07:24 PM
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But yes. Men did not enjoy these sorts of dynamics either. It was overall miserable. They were however, not punished nearly as severely or not at all for simply stepping out with a woman they did like. Men did have a lot more options for soothing the discomfort of the dynamic than women. How much that worked though? Your milage may vary.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:06 PM
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I mean. Having more say over a definition of a crime isn't the same as making an entirely new definition of crime. The definitions of crime are already made with regard to how they may manifest/with what the victim experiences. Girlrape just isn't a thing 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:04 PM
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This doesn't answer the question at all tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:56 PM
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He's single because he's unattractive. If he's unattractive and an asshole he is now insufferable and she has to hate herself to date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 11:29 PM
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You can absolutely make more friends without status. Dorks manage to find communities of dorks pretty often. It's not status more than it is social band width and skill. And well friendships existing because they're easy doesn't make them fake. Go get out there. Warm up the social muscles
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 11:14 PM
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😭 I mean it's typically easier to maintain relationships when younger. It doesn't really too much
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 10:58 PM
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Tbh... Having third spaces due to being young and more available isn't really proof of social skills or status. The ability to maintain and/or replenish old social connections with new one or convince someone to reignite old ones is more proof. In most situations like this it's the most socially inept or most disjointed person that gets left behind really. Those people definitely have more extra social time that simply isn't being spent with you but with other friends in most cases. Most the fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 10:50 PM
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The likeliness of someone to approach a woman actually isn't determined by something like that psychologically speaking. Why do you say it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 10:47 PM
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Charisma isn't just being a smooth talker. It's the way you walk the way you talk. It's also what you do. People who are charismatic are good at carrying conversations. Being a good speaker is one part of it. Actually being able to carry on about a large array of topics is another part of it. So knowing alot. Charismatic people tend to be good at telling stories and have a lot of experiences to share. More than like through this they have garnered status of sorts with this type of experience. Tl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 10:36 PM
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A woman with a deep silk smooth voice with a southern accent? you seriously don't fw that? I mean I get the Texan twang being strong but the smoother ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 10:27 PM
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I'm ngl. I don't know many people who are genuinely charismatic without some garnered social status
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 10:19 PM
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When stupid people get ahold of facts it leads to haphazarded assumptions like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 05:46 PM
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??? Your personal preference has to align with the people you support?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 05:43 PM
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She shouldn't hate you but I hope she just doesn't explicitly pursue an age gap relationship. The older in that dynamic is typically more competent, and financially stable. The younger is usually not. Age gaps often create power dynamics that make abuse more possible. Not to say its more likely to happen but to say its easier for it to occur.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:49 PM
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I personally I don't view settling always as being with someone you aren't attracted to. Just not the peak of what you desire in someone. They check some of the boxes even if not all. I think Most people settle this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:43 PM
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Most people in life settle. I don't think settling is so bad. Since it doesn't always mean they aren't attracted. Just you weren't the first or ideal option but I don't...see a problem with that? Most marriages in human history were arranged or people had a legal, social or financial pressure to get married. You take the guard rails off and realize most people aren't compatible even if attracted to each other. Most people have always settled and had varying levels of happiness depending on the n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:41 PM
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Men and women have always been segregated socially. That's not any more or less of a problem tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:12 PM
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Uh.....that has nothing to do with what I said. I mean yes the clitoris is mostly internal but the part that is actually visible, the clitoral hood, has around 3k nerve endings like the male penis. What does what you said have to do with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:50 PM
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I did put story in quotes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:47 PM
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Women can masturbate and not penetrate because... Women have two different types of orgasms. Cervical or that little patch of flesh I can't be bothered to remember the name of And clitoral, the clit which has about the same amount of nerve endings as a man's peen head.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:28 PM
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I mean women actually tend to find the bulk of heterosexual porn unappealing and usually tend to explicitly look for tags like passionate and intimate which provides more of a "story" to the sex and psychological aspect girls like. Or just look at gay porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:19 PM
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Already proving the point. I mean most women are usually wet enough to go in without foreplay....foreplay is for making sure she can actually come....not for extra lubricant...i mean it's helpful. But its for her pleasure. I mean its usually wet enough for HIM to slide in without foreplay it's not always wet enough for her not to get hurt. Alot of sex by couples, I'd wager most, doesn't even have foreplay bc that doesn't HIM. But his body doesn't tell him when he's hurt her. Porn sex is mostly u…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:15 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:30 PM
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People say this but will be 20 then vs 40 now and not realize that sex drive and desire almost always decreases more with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:07 PM
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That 80/20 is a dating app stat btw. The user base of any given dating app is 25% female. This means that each woman has at any given time 3 options. That's 180 potential partners every minute. It is frankly unrealistic to sort through all of them and see who's right or not. Too much time and effort dedicated to finding someone over an app who still even with vetting may not be great the moment you see them in person. If you pick the better presenting men off rip. You cut down the amount of actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:17 PM
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Theories by definition arebased in observable realities. Theory is literally an explanation for an observable phenomenon. So the sex market value theory could be completely wrong and it seems to work because it was retroactively made in response to an observable thing. There may yet be a better unmade theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:26 PM
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That's common sense. They also don't mind being hit on by guys who don't come off bad and may even respond positively.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:54 PM
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Women don't even wanna not be hit on. Its just the fact that most people don't actually know how to flirt or approach and come off too weird or too pushy. There is a sort of comfortability threshold you need to meet when talking to girls tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:50 PM
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More realistically she's probably indifferent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:43 AM
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If you live in america most of your everyday problems are like a not even worth half the shit the rest of the world goes through for all that the level of safety you experience is only even comparable in like 19 other countries in the entire world. I think that's what they mean and on that basis they're right. Police that are consistent is a privilege. I mean I live in the us and I used to live in the place that gave me the displeasure of police that were simply liable not to show up or come an …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:15 AM
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I mean thats people period. Everyone is changing partners like clothes nowadays. People are mf commodities now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:34 PM
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This person is not genuinely engaging with you. They're just there for a bunch of pointless quips that don't amount to any actual argument or point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:46 AM
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Case-in-point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:44 AM
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Aka. The Burden of Proof
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:58 AM
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You're disingenuously engaging with the topic. Almost seems more like you want a gotcha bitch or to fuck around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:47 AM
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Bu the time the kids hit 13 you don't really need to be SAHM.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 09:45 AM
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Both genders have both. Men and women favor over Vasopressin also isn't the whole emotional type of bond. Its why you feel the need to guard and protect and be territorial. But the whole "you are my life partner, i love you, your my soulmate" is the oxytocin thing. Moreover. Oxytocin is most often released in very emotionally personal circumstances. And plainly associated with emotional connections and situations. Vasopressin isn't. It's more territorially situated. You actually don't even need …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 10:29 PM
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Hormones are released yes but testosterone and relative dopamine massively dampens that to the point of it being observably true that men have a significantly harder time hormonally pair bonding and damaging their pair bonding abilities is actually harder as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 09:16 PM
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I should point out that I didn't pull you back to try to rub anything in. But because I genuinely wanted to know if what I said changed anything about ur opinion. They definitely had to work but yeah. Life is shit. Social freedom was really the only thing men had up on women. Oh and well they were actually taken seriously in legal circumstances but with how people like that lived in general...that isn't much I found out not too long ago that even today leaving cities and finding 100% integrated …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 05:27 PM
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I just wanna know if you really believe women never worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:50 PM
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Ik ur alive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:47 PM
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The American Myth is a poison truly Guys are really feeling vitriol bc they genuinely think women never had to do shit. When in reality that 1950s wandavision shit is really the collapse of female usefulness by forcing them to over specialize into the home life
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:24 PM
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I mean humans work a particular set of ways that have been observed and studied. I don't really need to be being judgemental. I mean... you're implying a biologic need is an emotional one. If anyone is conflating them it'd be you. Sex is a NEED in a relationship but I wouldn't say its an emotional need. I do think physical needs are just as important. I think it's particularly insidious to frame sex as an emotional need more than a physical need that can have emotion attached to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:51 PM
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The whole part of your first paragraph is quite literally what makes it a fetish vs attraction. They are ONLY into your physical attributes. And any appearance of you as a fully realized person will kill that dream. A smart person dating their fetish would never explicitly admit that like ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:45 PM
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I think men have emotional needs. I don't think sex is that. Testosterone mitigates a large portion of the pair bonding associated with the sex act. Sex ig does much for the man's ego and affirms that his partner is at least mutually attracted. Sex intrinsically is a biological drive that can have emotional significance placed onto it. It in of itself is just not an emotional need. Fucking a chick you love doesn't make the sex itself an emotional need. I should edit and say any biological need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:23 PM
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I mean that divorce stat is inflated by repeat offenders around 60%. So like most women aren't just getting in and getting out. It's afew serial monogamousts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:17 PM
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Something of a preface: If you were writing things to be preserved and analyzed some hundred years later you had the money to be able to write and read. So alot of history is not from the perspective of the average person. Your first paragraph is historically not true its a myth of pop history. Its very specifically high class women that were that way. The average woman worked. And well the whole thing where the average middle class woman was a stay at home mom because the husband could support …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:15 PM
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Sex is important but like its women that actually bond through sex. You're attracted to your partner so you fuck. Naturally you also love but that love is not attached to the act the way it is for women. Its just a feeling you feel with the woman you're fucking I don't think sex is the only thing he wants but framing it like an emotional need is such BS. 😭😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:50 PM
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I mean its more realistically not any one or others fault. The stats initiating divorce are just that. The fact that a lot of the divorcees in the stats are repeat offenders inflates them too. By like ≥ 60% so the amount of women getting into and out of relationships is just not even that large anyway. Cheating is extremely common amongst both sexes. Abuse is usually mutual so there is no telling the amount of reasons it happened. And plain lack of compatibility is also common so the reasons for…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:43 PM
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To be very clear. In a lot of societies women weren't even allowed to own their own riches to exercise any power thru them and could only even obtain power by being married to the right man. Women were very much barred from any direct means to the power of oligarchy so it was definitely patriarchal. And I HIGHLY doubt you weren't aware of this fact when you made that statement. I think ur just tryna gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:20 PM
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To be very fair almost every culture historically has the precedent of men and women not casually socializing and being friends as a general rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 07:45 AM
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Its not even just the recoil. The other wont be able to stay around if that person doesn't reciprocate their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 07:31 AM
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Wrong but im still responding with regard to his og point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 04:29 PM
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Its cool. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 04:06 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:42 PM
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mean yeah. Ik their different. I just honestly didn't care to correct it bc I'm lazy. This low key comes off passive aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:35 PM
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I mean he just gave the court as an example to a more general point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:10 PM
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Be careful. Female pred went largely unnoticed and unpunished. Do we now if those stats dictate they did it more or that they're getting caught more. Bc old attitudes were that women couldn't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:51 PM
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Augh. Your kind have been a nuance to me. The amount of people who've done this to me is insane. I learn as a mf hobby. 😭😭 I will read that whole study
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:42 PM
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They can provide an objective ground provided they were taken through good methodology.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:38 PM
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Tbvh. Conspiracy aren't quite the same as social contagion..aka trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 04:37 AM
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Shortsighted if your end goal is to pass on a legacy(kids). But its simply to build while you're there, then that doesn't matter yeah? Pleasure seeking sure. Toiling to no end, thats all of life. Humans exist to evolve for much of nothing. No reason to perpetuate themselves beyond an urge. It really doesn't matter that you pass nothing on. Its nice that you do. But so long as this mindset doesn't become so prevalent we send ourselves to extinction then its okay. And people think that's happening…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:36 AM
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Simple. Companionship. Like alot of people just want another someone to be with. Guys are the ones who typically are willing to just continuously hook up if they can. Girls will hook up but if they find the guy they like(high standards and all) they'll ideally just be with him. But most people want a special someone. Kids aren't always necessary for these people. Plenty of couples with no kids could've had them but only wanted each other. Is this question intentionally devisive or what? Bc it se…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:20 AM
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Damn...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:12 AM
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Yes emotions are also concepts. Love is an emotion. As a concept it doesn't even have a set definition. Every definition of love defines it as a set of feelings or define love by what people in love might do. Not what love itself is. Because like if she doesn't feel the emotion of love. She doesn't really like you because to love definitionally means to have a "deep affection" for.. another feeling. If you mean you want her to perform as a gf you can do that. It's just transactional and duty bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:49 PM
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Probably not but one can hope. I just need people being equally invested in each other so this bs can end. 🤕
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:32 PM
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Men are willing to die and stay with a woman in hopes of getting pussy because they know it won't be easy for them to get another bc despite most women having pussies its still not easily accessible. If most men were confident in their ability to and another relationship and consistently get pussy, most men aren't hence a lot of these posts, the amount of men willing to stay with women would decrease. See men who get an abundance of pussy, they don't wait up for women. Stop framing your matter o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:27 PM
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I still to if men as a collective stop pursuing women will start. Love drought hits everyone eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 02:24 PM
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Okay you don't have stories of the same of women doing it for men, not as many but you have alot of women doing it for children. Your biological instinctual tendencies to protect is a trait that makes you a better option for females. Your instinct to do that doesn't make it altruistic. Much like the woman instinct to protect her child doesn't mean altruism. You're hardwired that way. If women didn't have a pussy you wouldn't care. The amount of stories of a woman getting a condition that stopped…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 02:22 PM
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They don't fucking realize that everything has nuance how you approach what you say and the woman in question. Like the chick who gives the guy her number is not the chick next to her that would look him in disgust for trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:34 PM
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Not at all. Love is a feeling and emotion. All emotions and feelings are transient. That doesn't make feeling them any less worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:13 AM
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I'm just saying women make bad choices. That should not validate you.
/r/seduction23/03/25 07:32 PM
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If they were fine they'd still be there with you.
/r/seduction23/03/25 07:26 PM
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Rap was on the up with crack which was the 70s. It didn't get bug until the 80s and mainstreamed in the 90s. The gang culture peaked in the 90s and people were citing their favorite gangster rappers as inspiration more than the older two decades. Rap definitely amplified something that was on the fringe of the culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:23 PM
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The truth is that women on a whole do not have the conversations as publicly as men. If you're in all female spaces how to date and get men is a fairly reoccurring topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:16 PM
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The provocation was not as effective in reverse, it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:09 PM
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That's always been a thing but that was on the fringe of highly patriarchal civilizations where women were traded like cards. When the idea of a romantical relationship where love, passion and triangles where central only even became a common trope in literature in 1700s. Before this it was common in real life or literature. After, you hear more of these types of situations raising irl. I think J.W. Goether mentions how the concept of romantical love ruined relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:08 PM
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Media and culture actually influence each other mutually. For example rap was very fringe in black culture. Rap and gangster stuff didn't become super popular in black culture until it started being played all over the tv and radio. Then it became more mainstream. As it became more mainstream the rate at which culturally things influenced it grew. Not related to the topic but I hate when people make the claim that over goes over the other when they inform each other simultaneously.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:55 PM
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Bot on bot violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:48 PM
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"It's only been 10 months" WHAT DO YOU MEAN? 10months of unemployment is WAY past the average duration of unemployment. If you're a fully functional adult that doesn't get significant support from someone or have crazy savings, you couldn't even afford to be unemployed for 10 months without being totally homeless. The fact that you said that like it's the most normal thing in the world is SO much of a self-snitch. I do think women can date men "down on their luck" but i don't always trust that s…
/r/seduction23/03/25 06:43 PM
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You can be privileged without actually directly benefiting from said privilege if it doesn't give you immediate pluses. Most privilege is relative. Alot of guys like alot of girls are just average. People forget how easy it is to be bad to others or just for others without being a bad person. People can mismatch critically in irreconcilable ways and its alot more common than most would think
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 07:16 PM
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"women on reddit" "[Insert] on reddit said it was true!"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:00 AM
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So statistically speaking even amongst women who work. Only 30% of the time are they actually breadwinners. Tldr: women who financially provide for their men. Are rare . You can't use the two one of 100 women who do it then go "we do!".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 04:09 PM
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But you're not isolating a variable given the fact that nice guy and bad boy are a multitude of traits/variables to create an archetype. Nice guys try to be nice by being humble and damn enar letting people step over them. Bc they think passiveness is being nice. Women aren't attracted to passiveness. Women aren't attracted to the fact that these men are bad. They're attracted to confidence. Confidence often implies that one knows what they are doing/competence. Aggression implies an ability to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 04:49 AM
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It still applies. If you do it too often you're a push over. Learn balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 03:02 AM
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Most people associate "nice" with saying YES to almost anything. That's just called being a push over. Nice also isn't necessarily good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 02:05 AM
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There doesn't seem to be mutual agreement on what that exactly entails, as in which behaviors are to be moderated in which way however, hence PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 11:27 PM
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Because if you're going super-RP. Then you're basically calling a tiger a bloody murder who deserves the death penalty for hunting its prey. A dog barking. That type of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 10:32 PM
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Buddy. Them pastors will have half the wives in church preggo
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 07:12 PM
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Pretty practical reply actually. Arguing about whether its cheating or not is pointless. Its slop. Addressing the discomfort and boundaries surrounding it is better
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:32 AM
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I mean you were with her long enough to learn to be deceptive. Lol the question is still valid. 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:29 AM
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Tbh I hear feminists say patriarchy hurts everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 10:38 PM
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This is ironically the type of stuff RPers laugh at women for saying. Actual cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:57 PM
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I was going to make the post saying it's ignoring every other factor of human behavior and economics and even what corp she's working for. Women may not be millionaires because it's actually not that simple. In fact, the red pill gurus call this a "duel mating strategy" and assert that most women cannot successfully have one. Tho it's not easy for men to have one either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:55 PM
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The trick with women or people in general is that when they make claims like that a very particular person or type comes to mind. they may or may not elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 02:16 AM
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These debates aren't really purplepilled at all. They are blue or red pilled with people from the opposite camp trying to beat their ideologies into others heads. They can never be because blue and red pilled people literally operate in two different realities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:43 PM
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I wouldn't say screaming about abortion rights makes them crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:57 PM
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I mean. You're comparing massacres so the systematic destruction of rights. Like a massacre does revoke rights but that's very different from having a right taken via the institution. I'm not even saying one is morally worse. It's almost like you intentionally took the statement in the worst faith way possible
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:55 PM
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Lol. Adding cousins uncles and aunts to the equation doesn't change the underlying structure. Men had roles women did too ✨
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:34 PM
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"culturally monogamous society hid it" This reads as pretty true. To a degree. The 1700s was the start of the normalization of the romantic relationship. Prior to that: necessity first, love second. It reminds me of when people said women were happier in traditional relationships. But back then there was always some legal or social pressure to marry and a husband was the woman's best way to decent living then yeah she'll be happy. Removed ENFORCED monogamy, they don't give a damn to be monogamou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:53 PM
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I'm not mad more than I am explaining 😭 idek how I come off as angry but this begs the question For what purpose? She brought up a fair point. And that's your reply? You came here just to be inflammatory? And to not engage properly? How does this help any constructive conversation? Because the post doesn't literally mean a touchless marriage more than it does just paying attention to her mood so you're technically not even mirroring it and intentionally misinterpreting it, at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:22 PM
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The post doesn't say a touchless marriage. A happy marriage has intimacy but the post, in so many words, is saying that you shouldn't expect her to give it up on command. Which is fair imo. I don't see how you can be involved with them, genuinely like them, and be okay with the fact that they're a deadfish and obviously disinterested in bed. As the man in the video failed to realize she just wasn't in the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:14 PM
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I don't view this as an entitlement to touch their wives or whatever. I also don't think you should always have to ask your partner for non-explicitly sexual touches. Just that you should back off if they aren't receptive. A lot of people get into the mood or signal to each other with long caresses. In a good relationship sex is effortless but that doesn't mean it'll happen on command. I think there should be boundaries regarding the behavior if its just annoying like in the video. No awareness …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:06 PM
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OP says that ths husband shouldn't engage whenever not that there should be no intimacy. This is almost an intentionally bad faith comment. If the relationship is remotely normal there will absolutely be a healthy amount of intimacy. The video is obviously talking against pressuring when she's explicitly not in the mood and preoccupied. If you think the woman has to be intimate on command to make sure he doesn't leave. Eh. They probably shouldn't be together. Partners aren't entitled to intimacy…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:04 PM
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I mean. Rape is a fundamentally hard crime to prove. Its why like only 1 third of all of them actually even gets reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 07:14 PM
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I mean...diddy had 30 years of allegations How do you get pinged for a similar crime by different and unrelated people for over THIRTY YEARS and have it be a lie? Thirty years worth of witnesses. I can understand a lie told every once in awhile but the guy has been getting called a rapist all his public life. Occam's Razor, really. I mean let me say specifically TRUMP'S situation especially don't think it's a lie. "grab her by the pussy", the fact that he has orbited two confirmed predators (Eps…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:05 PM
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I just don't think 30 years of allegations from different people can be a lie. Like Trump has had people claiming this ish in books since the 90s. Found at both Diddy and Epstein parties. There is no hard evidence but the fact that people don't even think it MIGHT be true is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:19 PM
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