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| 72 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces? | mental health | Historical_Bet | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 04:53 PM |
| 26 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge) | General | Historical_Bet | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 11:29 PM |
| 8 | Seeking Input from Men on Emotional Regulation and Political Identity | Social Issues | Historical_Bet | /r/MensRights | 19/05/25 01:53 AM |
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| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Thank you sincerely for this kind and generous response, it really meant a lot to read. I’m trying my best to come from a place of empathy and bridge-building, even when the conversations get messy or emotional. What I found troubling, though, is that I posted almost the exact same message on a feminist board, same tone, same honest questions, and was outright banned. I wasn’t trying to provoke, I just genuinely wanted to understand both sides and build dialogue. Here's what I wrote there: No an… | /r/MensRights | 27/05/25 01:39 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I get what you’re trying to say about correlation and causation, but you’re misrepresenting how causality is actually established. Yes, all causation involves correlation, but not all correlation is causation. The distinction matters. Causation is established when multiple criteria are met: statistical correlation, temporal precedence (cause precedes effect), a clear mechanism linking the two, replication across studies, and ruling out alternative explanations through controlled analysis. That’s… | /r/MensRights | 25/05/25 02:15 AM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I appreciate you taking the time to write a long and passionate response, seriously. You clearly care about what’s happening, and I get that some of these issues are deeply personal. That said, I think we’re interpreting the same reality through different emotional frameworks. You say feminism has failed because women are more anxious, depressed, or in debt. But correlation doesn’t equal causation. Life got harder for everyone, not just women, over the past few decades due to economic pressure, … | /r/MensRights | 24/05/25 11:35 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Appreciate the detailed response, genuinely. I’ve actually read a wide range of material on this, including critiques of feminism and some of the anti-suffrage arguments. But historical nuance isn’t the same as historical revisionism. Yes, women could inherit property in some cases, and yes, legal responsibility often fell on men, but that doesn't mean women had equal agency or autonomy. Being exempt from legal consequences isn’t the same as being empowered. In fact, it often reflected the belie… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/25 06:31 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?You made the claim. If you can’t point to what you’re accusing me of, then we’re done here. I’m not going to play guessing games or comb through my own posts trying to read your mind. If you’ve got something specific, say it. If not, let’s move on. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/25 02:35 AM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?There are nearly 400 posts in this thread, I'm not going to dig through every single one to guess what you're referring to. You're the one making the accusation, so the burden’s on you to back it up. If you can't do that, maybe it's not the solid point you think it is. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/25 02:17 AM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?That’s the irony, you keep accusing me of manipulation while avoiding the substance of what I’ve said. I’ve stayed respectful, open to feedback, and asked for clarity. That’s not manipulation, that’s maturity. You don’t have to like me or agree, but don’t twist my intent just because you’re uncomfortable with a different perspective. Take care. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/25 02:09 AM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?You’re the one making the accusation, so it’s your burden to prove it. That’s not manipulation, it’s basic accountability. I’ve shown up in good faith and I’ve stayed open. If you’re done, that’s fine. But don’t blame me for asking you to back up your words. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/25 02:00 AM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Appreciate the honesty, but it’s telling that you made the accusation and then tapped out when asked for examples. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/25 01:50 AM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Fair enough. I’ve said my piece and meant it sincerely. If you ever want to come back to the table, I’ll be here. None of this is about winning an argument for me, it’s about trying to understand what’s breaking in people and how to help fix it. Peace to you. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/25 01:48 AM |
| 0 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?If you’ve got specific examples of where I contradicted myself or denied someone’s reality, I’m open to hearing them. I’ve tried to be clear that male pain is real and deserves to be addressed, not dismissed. But disagreeing with how we frame that pain isn’t the same as gaslighting. I’ve spent time in these spaces because I care about where that pain goes. If something I said came off as invalidating, let’s talk about it. But just calling it gaslighting without pointing to where doesn’t move the… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/25 01:33 AM |
| 1 | The mockery of male lonelinessAbsolutely agree with everything you said. I’ve been researching this exact pattern, how emotional starvation and cultural invalidation are driving young men toward grievance-based identities. It’s not about defending hate—it’s about understanding how it grows. I wrote about it here if anyone’s interested: 🔗 https://ericlane11.substack.com/p/brotherhoods-of-blame-how-lonely Not a hit piece. Not sympathy for extremism. Just a real look at what’s being felt, said, and repeated, and how we might in… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/25 12:06 AM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Yeah I only came here to try to understand the anger and pain behind a lot of the posts I was seeing. Thanks for the comment. I'll look into what you mentioned. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 06:55 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Fair questions. I’m not saying critique is off limits, I’m saying let’s be precise. If we’re going to point to feminist influence, we should name which policies, which institutions, and whether those policies were rooted in malice or outdated assumptions that now deserve to be re-evaluated. I’ve called out the Duluth Model myself, it’s narrow and outdated. Same with Mary Koss’s framing on male victims. Critique is valid. Blame isn’t always. Where I push back is when “feminism” becomes a catch-al… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 02:35 PM |
| -1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Just because some men in power made protective (and yes, often patronizing) decisions toward women doesn’t mean women weren’t systemically excluded. That’s not benevolence, it’s paternalism. Being barred from voting, serving, owning property, or opening a bank account without a man’s permission wasn’t “help.” It was control dressed up as protection. You don’t get to call it support when the very thing being denied is autonomy. That’s what feminism challenged: not men caring too much, but men dec… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 02:21 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Hey, I get where you’re coming from, some of the examples you listed are definitely worth questioning. But respectfully, this doesn’t really prove that feminists control the system. Most of what you cited are individual feminists expressing views or media flashpoints, not widespread institutional dominance. There’s a big difference between “a feminist said something I disagree with” and “feminism runs the courts and media.” We can call out bias or legal gaps without pretending there’s a monolith… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 02:14 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I hear what you're saying, but if the claim is that extreme feminists are dominating media, academia, and law, can you give a few specific examples? Not fringe blog posts or out-of-context tweets, but actual policies, mainstream coverage, or legal decisions that show a widespread anti-male bias? I’m genuinely asking because that doesn’t line up with what I’ve seen in real life. I think we need to be careful not to mistake louder voices online for representative ones. If we’re going to call somet… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:47 PM |
| -1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Totally fair to bring up. But that raises another question, who made it so women weren’t included in the draft or discouraged from combat roles? It wasn’t women lobbying to be excluded from national responsibility. In fact, a lot of early feminist activism pushed for women to serve, work, and be seen as full citizens. But society, largely run by men at the time, chose to keep women out of those roles. Not because they thought women deserved a free ride, but because they believed women were too f… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:41 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Appreciate that take, it’s honest and grounded. I think a lot of us feel the same way but don’t always know how to say it without getting labeled or shut down. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to feel strong, but if the only version of strength we celebrate is loud, aggressive, or performative, we’re cutting off a whole range of what real strength can look like. Quiet strength, emotional clarity, self-respect, that matters too. And like you said, if someone finds healing elsewhere, more power … | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:32 PM |
| 1 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Wow, that actually sounds really close to my last relationship, minus the court stuff. I didn’t go through the legal side, but the emotional chaos, the walking on eggshells, the fear of being misrepresented... yeah, I felt that. Sorry you had to go through it. That kind of power imbalance can really mess with your sense of safety and trust. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:27 PM |
| 2 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Totally get that. I think a lot of people underestimate how much damage it does when you don’t even feel allowed to name your experience without being torn apart for it. That’s actually part of what made me start speaking up more, realizing how many guys were just carrying stuff they never got to say out loud without being called toxic or bitter. Spaces like this can be rough sometimes, but for a lot of people, it’s the first place where they feel heard, even if it’s messy. Appreciate you sharin… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:25 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?That’s fair, feminism and women aren’t the same thing. I’m not saying every woman is a feminist or that every feminist is a woman. I’m saying that in actual day-to-day life, most of the women I’ve met don’t walk around spewing anti-male hatred like some people here seem to assume is the norm. Yeah, there are extreme feminists. There are extreme MRAs too. But most people, on both sides, are somewhere in the middle just trying to make sense of the mess. If we only focus on the worst voices, we’re … | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:24 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Hey, fair enough to challenge details, history is complex. But saying women didn’t get the vote until around 100 years ago isn’t a wild claim, it’s a documented fact. In the U.S., the 19th Amendment was ratified in 1920. In the UK, full equal voting rights came in 1928. That’s not a “simplified” view, it’s just historically accurate. Yes, there were class and property-based restrictions on voting for men before that too, and that nuance matters. But to act like women weren’t systemically exclude… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:23 PM |
| 2 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Yeah, I can see that. They perm banned me from r/Feminism without even saying anything bad. Just for trying to ask thoughtful questions and understand both sides. It’s frustrating when you come in with openness and get labeled or shut out just for not aligning 100%. Makes it harder to build bridges when both sides are busy throwing each other out of the room before the conversation even starts. Thanks for sharing! | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:20 PM |
| -1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?That’s a complex historical framing, but it’s not accurate to say the U.S. has unequal voting rights today. All adult citizens, regardless of gender, have the legal right to vote without being subjected to conscription. While it's true that military service was historically tied to certain civil privileges, especially for men, that link no longer determines voting access. Also, the idea that feminism’s “first big victory” was the creation of a two-tier citizenship ignores the broader context. At… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:17 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I hear that, and I appreciate the clarity. You’re absolutely right, men and women are wired differently in some ways, and a lot of conversations miss that. I’m not here to talk to men like they’re “damaged women.” I’m here because I’ve been that guy, shut down, stoic, pushing through, and I know it can work. Until it doesn’t. For me, healing isn’t about sitting in a circle crying about your dad. It’s about learning how to stop carrying weight you didn’t even realize was there. It’s about not let… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:11 PM |
| 0 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I get that you’re angry, and I’m not here to argue with that. But disagreeing with a worldview isn’t gaslighting, it’s just having a different take. I’m not saying your experiences aren’t real. I’m saying they’re not the only version of reality, and we all carry different scars that shape how we see things. I came here because I care about where men’s pain goes. I’ve lived it. I’m not trying to troll or take up space, I’m trying to understand and offer something back that helped me. If that does… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:10 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Hey, I get where the frustration’s coming from. I’m really not trying to gaslight anyone here, I know it can feel that way when you’ve been dismissed or talked down to before. My point wasn’t to erase anyone’s struggle, just to ask if the broader narrative always matches what’s happening in real life. Some men absolutely face real barriers, emotionally, socially, economically. I’m not denying that. But I think the solutions start by naming the pain, not pointing fingers. That’s what I’m trying t… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 05:57 AM |
| -1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Hey man, I hear you. And just to be real, I’m not here to deny anyone’s lived experience. I’m definitely not trying to gaslight or troll. I’ve spent a lot of time in these spaces myself, and I know what it’s like to feel overlooked and dismissed. My post wasn’t meant as an attack. It was an attempt to name something I’ve seen over and over: that a lot of the anger starts from pain. Not weakness, pain. And if we can talk about that without jumping to blame, maybe more guys could actually feel see… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 05:56 AM |
| 1 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Sure. I mean something like: what personal experience made this feel real for you? Was there a moment where something happened, at work, school, in your relationships, in court, that made you step back and say, “Yeah, the system is stacked against men”? That’s what I’m trying to understand. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 03:42 AM |
| 1 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)yeah those are pretty dumb rules that just increase the divide. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 03:32 AM |
| 1 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)I appreciate the thought you put into this, but a lot of what you’re saying feels really abstract and hard to connect with. I’m trying to understand people’s real-world experiences, what’s something concrete you’ve lived through that shaped these views? That helps way more than theory. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 03:31 AM |
| 1 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Wow, that’s pretty shitty. First I’m learning about this. I get trying to protect communities, but banning people just for where they’ve commented feels like a lazy way to avoid real conversations. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 02:59 AM |
| 0 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Damn man, that’s rough. Sounds like the whole thing hit a nerve, especially with what you were already going through. I’m sorry you had to deal with that, especially when you were just trying to speak honestly. That said, it’s still hard to tell what you actually said that set things off. Not trying to poke—just genuinely curious, because from the way it’s framed, it sounds like the original comment must’ve touched a sensitive spot for people. If you're open to sharing it, I’d like to understand… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:59 AM |
| -1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Those situation are horrible, no doubt. But I think we’ve got to be careful about using isolated, extreme acts to justify fear of an entire gender. There are messed up people of every kind out there, doesn’t mean everyone like them is a threat. If we want to talk about violence or rhetoric, I’m down, but generalizing like that doesn’t move anything forward. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:55 AM |
| 0 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Yeah that’s wild. Just for commenting here? What kind of stuff were you saying that got people so bothered? Was it anything specific, or just guilt by association? | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:41 AM |
| -1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Hey, I’m not trying to be combative, but I know nothing about this, and that’s a serious claim. Do you have any reputable sources to back it up? From what I’ve found, the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse did uncover that male victims were underserved and often ignored, which is tragic and real. But I haven’t seen any credible evidence that “feminists were responsible for excluding them” from mental health services. That feels like a heavy accusation, and if it’… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:39 AM |
| 2 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Huh, I’m not the one who was making those claims, so I wouldn’t know. I wasn’t trying to argue that men have rights women don’t. I was just responding to your point about double standards and asking for examples so I could better understand where you were coming from. If your point is that things are more unequal for men in certain ways now, cool, let’s talk about that. But I’m not here to flip the conversation into some “who’s more oppressed” checklist. I’m just trying to have a real convo, not… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:35 AM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Nah, I’m not mocking anyone. I just type kinda shitty and it takes me a while to go back and fix everything, so I use tools to help tighten it up. That last post was me being sarcastic, not trying to insult anyone here. I respect the people engaging with me. I’m just trying to have real conversations and save time while doing it. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:34 AM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Fair question, why does it feel like you’re not talking to a person? Just because something’s clear or well-structured doesn’t mean it’s not real. I’m the one behind the screen, reading your words, thinking through my responses, and choosing what to say. I use tools to save time and help with flow, but everything still reflects me, my thoughts, my intent, my voice. If you really think it’s just AI, try dropping your own comment into an AI tool and see if it gives you the same kind of response I … | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:32 AM |
| 3 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I get the pushback. Terms like “systemic” can definitely sound like jargon, especially when people feel like they’re being used to dismiss real personal experiences, and I’m not here to gaslight anyone or deny the sacrifices men have made. But I also think we can’t ignore structure just because it’s uncomfortable to talk about. The draft, for example, wasn’t about men individually choosing it, it was enforced by systems that decided whose lives were expendable. That’s not a “male privilege,” tha… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:26 AM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?That’s fair, I’m not trying to twist your words or suggest you hate women. I hear what you’re saying, that men often get criticized for things women are praised for, and that double standard does exist in some places. I’ve felt it myself. But I’ve also seen men and women both get dragged for the same behaviors, depending on the context. So I guess I’m wondering, could you give a few specific examples of what you mean? Like where you’ve seen men attacked for doing the same thing women are celebra… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:21 AM |
| 2 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Damn man, that sucks. I’m really sorry you had to deal with that, especially when you were just trying to be open and honest. No one deserves to be talked to like that, let alone on a date. I know how that feels in a different way, my weight’s fluctuated a decent amount over the years, and I’ve noticed how people treat you differently when you’re carrying a few extra pounds. It’s subtle sometimes, but it’s real. Like you’re not allowed to be vulnerable and not fit the “ideal” at the same time wi… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:18 AM |
| 0 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Yeah, that sucks. I think the anonymity of being online brings out the worst in some people, they’ll say stuff they’d never have the balls to say in person. It’s like the second you express anything real as a guy, someone’s ready to slap a label on you just to shut it down. Glad there’s at least one space where that doesn’t happen. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 01:00 AM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?would it be bettter if I talkjed like this with a bunchh of sopeelling errors and misttkaes? | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:58 AM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I get that. Just to be clear, I’m the one asking the questions, thinking through the ideas. I use AI to type faster and help structure thoughts, not to fake anything. Everything I say still reflects what I believe and what I’m genuinely trying to understand. But I’m curious, why does it bother you? Is it the tone, or does it just feel less personal? Not trying to come at you, just want to have a real convo here. I am a very busy person I work for a fortune 10 company and try to save as much time… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:55 AM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Yeah, I hear you. That foundation in early education really does set the tone for everything that comes after, if boys feel misunderstood or shut down from the start, it’s no wonder so many check out later. What kind of changes would you like to see that really cater to boys? Like if you could redesign early education to actually support them, what would that look like to you? Curious what ideas you’ve got. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:50 AM |
| 1 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Yeah, honestly I think we’re mostly saying the same thing, I just framed it in terms of how guys are trained, and you framed it in terms of how they’re treated. Either way, the point stands: a lot of men don’t show vulnerability because they’ve learned through experience that it gets them dismissed or devalued. And I’m with you on the bigger question too, why aren’t more men speaking up or getting involved? I think part of it is that same fear: that if they say something, they’ll just get mocked… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:43 AM |
| 1 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Yeah, totally. It’s nice having a space where you can actually open up without getting pre-judged or side-eyed for just being honest. A lot of places shut that down real quick. Curious, what kind of hostility have you run into, either on here or just in life in general, when you’ve tried to speak from that male point of view? | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:40 AM |
| 1 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Yeah, I get the frustration. I’ve been in a lot of relationships, romantic and friendships, where people didn’t keep their word or follow through, and it eats at you after a while. But I also think that’s just a human thing. We’re all wired to chase our own desires, and sometimes that leads to selfishness, even if it’s not intentional. I respect what you said about accomplishment too. There’s something grounding about just doing what you said you’d do, no drama, no excuses. Even the small wins m… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:38 AM |
| 1 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Yeah, I can agree with that. If a guy decides early on that it was a mistake and the woman still wants to carry it to term, he should have the option to opt out financially. That’s not about dodging responsibility, it’s about fairness. If we’re going to talk about choice, it should go both ways. You can’t say one person gets total control and the other just has to live with the consequences no matter what. Making it a package deal actually makes sense if we want real equality in how parenthood i… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:35 AM |
| 2 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Yeah, that’s how it should be, call out the actual shitty behavior, hold the individuals accountable, but don’t take it out on whole groups of innocent people. That just creates more division and stops any real progress from happening. I’ve noticed the same thing in this group, most guys here aren’t trying to hate anyone, they’re just trying to speak the truth and find some kind of balance in a world that feels stacked against them. Fairness shouldn’t be a radical idea. I get what you’re saying … | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:33 AM |
| 4 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Thanks for that. And no worries on the downvotes, I’m not here for points, just honest convo. I’m definitely not trying to minimize our pain, or what men are going through. I’ve felt it too. I just want to see us channel that in more productive ways, where the people who actually did the shitty stuff get held accountable, and we don’t end up punishing entire groups or turning pain into identity. Men’s spaces should be where we grow stronger and more clear-headed, not just louder. If we can build… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:31 AM |
| 1 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Yeah, I hear you. It really sucks when some women take advantage of serious issues, especially ones where real victims exist, and make false claims, sometimes tied up with alcohol, shame, or regret. That kind of thing doesn’t just hurt the men being accused, it also undermines trust in actual survivors and makes it harder for everyone to be taken seriously. I respect that you’ve questioned what you were taught and looked into things for yourself. That takes more guts than people realize. What wo… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:28 AM |
| 2 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Yeah, I really agree with that, at the end of the day, it should be about equality, for everyone. That includes calling out real abuse and injustice, but also knowing where to draw the line. Some parts of the MeToo movement were necessary and long overdue, no doubt. But I think it definitely went too far at times, where it started turning into blanket suspicion, like all men were predators unless proven otherwise. That kind of thinking just creates more division and fear, not understanding. We’v… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:25 AM |
| 1 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Wow, man. I’m really sorry you went through that. No one should ever have to experience something like that, and then on top of it, not get the support they deserve. That’s seriously messed up. I’m glad this space gave you some of that support back when you needed it. That’s what it should be for. Just real people showing up for each other without trying to score points or push some agenda. Thanks for sharing that. Takes guts. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:23 AM |
| 2 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Yeah, I hear that. Sounds like you went from a place where being a man meant standing on your own two feet and speaking your mind, to a world where just saying something blunt gets treated like a crime. That’s gotta be frustrating as hell. I get that a lot of guys just want to feel like they can be men without getting shamed or neutered by corporate culture or soft social rules. Out of curiosity, what does being a man mean to you? Like, what are the traits or values that matter most? Not trying … | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:21 AM |
| 1 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Totally fair points, man. I get that fear too, even just the chance of an accident was enough to mess with my head sometimes. And you’re right, women have way more options post-sex. Guys basically get one shot to not mess up, and after that, it's all out of their hands. Out of curiosity, where do you personally land on it now? Do you think men should have the legal right to opt out of parenthood (like a financial abortion) if both people agree it was a mistake? Or do you think abortion itself sh… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:19 AM |
| 2 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Damn, yeah I’ll check that out. And I totally get it, what bugs me most is when people try to get you banned just because they don’t like what you said, even if it’s not actually harassment. Feels like disagreeing is treated like violence now, especially if you're pushing back with facts that make people uncomfortable. That kind of censorship just makes things worse and drives people deeper into extremes instead of actually talking about stuff. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:11 AM |
| 2 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?get why you feel that way. A lot of the K–12 system is dominated by women, and I do think boys often get misunderstood or penalized for just being boys. That’s a real issue. But I’d also say higher education, especially in fields like engineering, tech, econ, etc. is still pretty male-dominated. So it’s not like the whole system is stacked against men from top to bottom. It’s more complicated than that. As for feminists, yeah, I’ve seen some loud voices who seem to celebrate male suffering or tr… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:08 AM |
| 1 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Yeah I get that, seems like every girl asks if you’re a serial killer before going on a date, like that’s just normal small talk now. It’s wild how fast guys get painted as dangerous for just existing or disagreeing with something. I’m all for safety, but it’s gotten to a point where just having a different opinion gets treated like a red flag. Definitely makes spaces like this feel like a breath of fresh air. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:06 AM |
| 2 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Yeah, I feel that. I’ve had a bunch of close calls and honestly some women just messing with me, trying to trap me into a relationship or playing games with pregnancy scares. It messes with your head after a while. That constant anxiety definitely made it harder for me to trust people, and yeah, it ruined a few good things too. You’re not alone in that at all. And it’s wild how people just deny your experience when it doesn’t fit the narrative. Eight doctors? That’s ridiculous. I’ve heard that s… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:05 AM |
| 1 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Yeah man, that’s what I noticed too, feels like you can actually talk here without getting labeled or shut down. Do you feel like that kind of judgment happens mostly online, or do you run into it in real life too? Like at work, school, dating, whatever. Curious how deep it goes for people. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:03 AM |
| 3 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Yeah, I think that’s one of the worst things someone can do, lie and make false allegations. It destroys lives, and the damage doesn’t go away even if you’re proven innocent. Just the accusation can follow you forever. I’m glad you found this space and started learning more. A lot of people don’t realize how real that fear is until it’s too late. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:02 AM |
| 2 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Yeah, I hear you. I watched my dad, who was a genuinely good guy, get completely screwed over by the court system. It was brutal, and no one seemed to care. That was one of my first wake-up calls that the system doesn’t always play fair, especially for men. I get the anger. A lot of guys are carrying pain and feeling like they’ve got no voice, and history shows what happens when that gets ignored for too long. I just hope we can find a way to fix things before it gets to that breaking point. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:01 AM |
| 2 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Yeah, that makes sense. Everyone needs at least one space where they’re not constantly made to feel lesser. Do you feel like that mostly happens online, or does it spill into real life too, for example with family, school, work, relationships? I’m curious because I’ve heard both, and I think it matters how deep it runs. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/25 12:00 AM |
| 2 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Totally get that. I don’t agree with everything either, but I stick around because some of the stuff guys go through just gets ignored everywhere else. There is a double standard, and it’s wild how few people even acknowledge it. And yeah, seeing some of the stuff certain feminists say about men, it’s hard not to feel like there needs to be a space that pushes back. Doesn’t mean we have to hate anyone, just that we deserve to be heard too. Appreciate you sharing that | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 11:59 PM |
| 4 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Yeah, I’ve noticed that too. Reddit definitely has a hate on men by default vibe sometimes, especially in the bigger subs. It’s like you’re not even allowed to say men struggle without getting jumped on. That said, I try not to lump everyone together. I get pissed off at the white-knight types too, but I also know not every guy trying to bridge the gap is weak or brainwashed. Some of us are just tired of the echo chambers on both sides. I’m not trying to water anything down. I’m just here to tal… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 11:58 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?That sounds brutal, man. I can’t pretend to know what it’s like to live with that kind of judgment, but I hear the exhaustion behind what you’re saying. People love to make snap judgments, whether it’s about disability, gender, or just someone’s tone online. And yeah, some of the loudest critics are the ones carrying the least self-awareness. I’m not here to label anyone or defend people who treat others like shit. Just trying to understand the different ways guys are getting overlooked, judged,… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 11:56 PM |
| -1 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)You’re wrong about me, but I’m not here to argue. I actually do care. I’ve been through my own shit and I’m not here to play therapist or score points, I’m here because I empathize with how isolating and unfair life can feel, especially for men. I’ve read a lot of the older posts. I asked because I wanted to hear real people’s stories directly, not just read general threads from strangers. If that’s not something you’re into, cool. But don’t assume I’m fake just because I speak with respect. Not… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 11:54 PM |
| 0 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Fair question. Honestly, my own mom didn’t really give a shit about my education. She was emotionally checked out, and I paid the price for that. But I’ve also seen other moms who fought tooth and nail for their sons, showing up to every parent-teacher meeting, helping with homework, pushing schools to do better. So I don’t think it’s as simple as “women don’t care.” Some don’t, yeah. And that hurts. But others do, deeply. And if we lump them all together, we push away the very people who might … | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 11:53 PM |
| -2 | What First Drew You to This Space? (Genuinely Curious — Not Here to Judge)Hey, I appreciate you being direct, and I get where you’re coming from. To clarify, I’m not saying men’s rights advocacy is just about emotional pain or that men are broken and need fixing. I fully agree, there are real, structural injustices that men face, especially in family court, false accusations, mental health, and how male victims get treated. But I also think your response kind of highlights something deeper, how most men don’t want to be seen as vulnerable, even when they’re talking ab… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 11:50 PM |
| 6 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Not yet, but I plan to. Right now I’m just trying to understand both sides better, where the pain is coming from, how it manifests, and what’s actually being said when you strip away the anger. I think both men and women are carrying a lot of emotional weight from systems that weren’t built for healing. My goal isn’t to defend one side or attack the other, it’s to listen, reflect, and maybe help move the conversation toward something more honest and constructive. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 11:44 PM |
| 3 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Yeah, that’s horrible, I’ve seen cases like that too where a man ends up paying child support for a kid that’s not even his. That’s not just unfair, it’s a betrayal of trust and basic justice. I’m genuinely curious, have you experienced something like that firsthand? If you have, I’m really sorry. No one should have to go through something that gut-wrenching, especially when the system seems to look the other way. It’s stories like yours that should be taken seriously, not dismissed. And I mean … | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 11:42 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I hear you, and I’m really sorry you went through that. What you’re describing, betrayal, feeling unheard, seeing double standards, that’s not trivial. I've been there being cheated on and it really sucks! That stuff cuts deep. And when the system seems to turn a blind eye, it can feel like the world is stacked against you just for being a man. I’m not here to deny that unfairness exists, it absolutely does. There are legal and cultural blind spots when it comes to male victims, especially aroun… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 11:37 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I know this space gets a lot of outside heat, but I wanted to ask something honest and human: What brought you here originally? Was it: A painful experience with a mom who didn’t show up for you? Feeling betrayed or manipulated by a girlfriend or wife? Losing custody or getting steamrolled by the court system? Feeling like no one gave a damn when you were struggling? Just feeling alienated and like the world stopped making sense? I’m not here to argue or debate. I’m here to listen, and to better… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 11:34 PM |
| -2 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I hear the frustration, and I don’t doubt that a lot of boys are falling behind and feeling invisible, I care about that too. But I think we’ve got to be really careful about turning valid pain into a blanket narrative that paints all women or all feminists as the enemy. That kind of framing might feel cathartic in the short term, but it won’t build anything lasting. Yes, boys are struggling. Yes, some male spaces have been disrupted. But that’s not just because of feminism, a lot of it has to d… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 11:33 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Just out of curiosity, do most of you here lean more right or left politically? Not trying to start a fight, genuinely just wondering where the majority of folks here stand. The tone of the discussions often sounds more right-leaning, but I’d love to get a better sense from the people actually posting. Totally cool if you're somewhere in the middle too. I'm center left. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 11:20 PM |
| 0 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?There are women who’ve faced real accountability, my ex, for example, lost custody of her kids because of her drinking, and their father was awarded full custody. It happens. Not all systems are automatically stacked in women’s favor like people assume. I get the frustration, some situations are deeply unfair, but we’ve got to be honest about the fact that accountability isn’t one-sided. Plenty of men and women are held responsible for their actions. If we only focus on when that doesn’t happen,… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 11:17 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I’m not denying that some guys have had bad experiences, but I think it’s important not to assume all women are like that. Most people, men and women, are just doing their best. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 11:14 PM |
| -1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I'm sure the extremes on both sides have caused harm, and I’m not here to excuse that. But that’s exactly why I’m trying to promote a different path: one that helps us heal without needing to attack. Men do have real struggles that deserve serious attention, boys falling behind in school, mental health, fatherlessness. I talk about that because I care. But I don’t think we solve those problems by mirroring the bitterness we’ve felt. It’s not about being on “Team Men” or “Team Women.” It’s about … | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 11:00 PM |
| 0 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Thanks for the reply. I’m familiar with the Seneca Falls Convention, it was largely about securing basic rights like voting and legal personhood for women. I know some modern critiques focus on the rhetoric or assumptions of the era, but I’m curious, what specifically in that history do you think qualifies it as “cancerous”? Is it the language used, the goals, or how it evolved over time? I’m open to hearing more if you’ve got specific examples or points to unpack. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 10:58 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Clarifying the Intent of This Post Just to be clear, for anyone still unsure, the point of this post was never to bash men or promote feminism as some flawless ideology. It was to introduce nuance into a conversation that too often turns black and white. Yes, some women are harmful, dismissive, or even misandrist. That’s real, and it deserves space. But most women aren’t like that, just like most men aren’t abusive or oppressive, even if some are. Reducing either side to caricatures doesn’t help… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 10:56 PM |
| 0 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?You're right that voting rights for men were historically tied to class and conscription, that was unjust too. But asking what women gave up to earn the right to vote feels like the wrong question. Rights aren’t something people should have to trade suffering for. The idea that any group must first “earn” humanity through pain reinforces the very hierarchy we're trying to dismantle. Women didn’t ask to bypass hardship, they asked to be treated as full citizens, just like men. Why should anyone h… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 10:50 PM |
| 2 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Why do you think that? | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 10:48 PM |
| -1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?That’s just not true. There are plenty of women who care deeply about men and boys, as sons, brothers, partners, and fellow humans. And the Boy Scouts didn’t shut down simply because women “raided” it. That’s revisionist. The organization faced serious internal issues, including widespread abuse scandals and declining membership. Yes, there are real crises facing boys and men, in education, in purpose, in mental health. I’ve never denied that. But blaming women or feminism for every challenge do… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 10:47 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I’m not asking anyone to accept anything, just sharing a personal observation based on the conversations I’ve seen here over the past few months. If it doesn’t resonate with you, that’s totally fair. But I think it’s worth reflecting on why some of these patterns keep showing up. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 10:43 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I write all my own ideas. Sometimes I use a tool to help clean up grammar or phrasing, but everything I post comes from my own experience, as a guy in his 40s who’s lived through a lot of this pain personally. If the only way to dismiss someone’s perspective is to call it AI, maybe that’s a sign the argument itself isn’t so easy to refute. I’m here to talk about how we break the cycle, not win a contest for who’s the most bitter. If that makes people uncomfortable, maybe it’s worth asking why. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 10:42 PM |
| 2 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Appreciate your honesty, Peter. I don’t think we’re as far apart as it might seem, we both care about the wellbeing of boys, girls, men, and women. I just see emotional health and equality as shared goals, not a zero-sum game. You're right that not all burdens have fallen evenly. I’m not pretending male pain isn’t real, I’ve lived it. But to me, the answer isn’t to pit struggles against each other. It's to ask: what kind of future are we trying to build, and do we want it shaped by competition o… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 10:40 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Totally get that, it’s fair to feel weird about it. But I did write it. I just used AI to help with clarity and tone, the same way people use spellcheck or ask a friend to look over a text before sending it. Every point, example, and personal detail came from me. If the wording feels polished, that’s the tool; if it feels honest, that’s me. Happy to keep talking as long as it’s human to human. I’m not outsourcing my perspective, just making sure I say it clearly. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 10:31 PM |
| 2 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?You’re free not to believe me, but these are still my thoughts. I use AI like some people use Grammarly or a second pair of eyes, it helps me sharpen how I say something, but it doesn’t decide what I say. The personal stuff? That comes from lived experience, not a script. If I wanted to hide behind something, I wouldn’t be this open about where I’m coming from. If the ideas still stand, does it really matter if I used a tool to help me express them better? | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 10:26 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Why don't you tell it to write a post about what is going on in the men's right space and see if it gives you exactly what I posted. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 10:19 PM |
| 2 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Look at my posts. Some of them have personal info like saying I am a guy in my 40's and that I have been hurt by women too like my mom and shitty relationships. AI doesn't say that stuff unless you are actually putting in personal context. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 10:17 PM |
| 0 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?LOL so instead of engaging with my thoughts you just want to discredit it because I use a tool to help write faster. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 10:15 PM |
| 2 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?LOL. I type what I want to reply and AI just formats and edits it for me. Still my thoughts. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 10:12 PM |
| 0 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I use AI to help write faster and for editing, but the thoughts are still mine. Should I shame you because you don't write your messages by hand and mail them in or use a type writer? | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 10:09 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Why not engage with the content instead of the style? | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 10:07 PM |
| -1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Do you know how to google? lol | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 10:06 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?look it up yourself. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 10:05 PM |
| -2 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Noooo I'm REEEALLLLLL!!!!!!!!! | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 10:04 PM |
| 0 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Appreciate the follow-up, Peter. You’re raising fair points, but I think we’re looking at the same issues through different lenses. You’re right that emotional labor, childcare, and even nursing aren't exclusive to women, but the expectation of who should perform those roles historically has been heavily gendered. The burden on men to be providers was very real, just as the burden on women to be caregivers was. Both are products of a system that assigned roles based on gender rather than agency.… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 10:03 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I'm a guy in my 40s, and honestly, this post hit hard. A lot of men in these spaces are hurting, I’ve been there too. I’ve felt ignored, shamed, emotionally sidelined. And yeah, I have a lot of anger toward my mom for things that shaped me along with some shitty relationships. But I don’t take that out on all women. That wouldn’t be healing, it would just be projection. What I’ve learned is this: pain that doesn’t get processed gets passed on. And too often, these spaces turn that pain outward i… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 09:59 PM |
| 0 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?That’s a valid concern if what you’re seeing is cherry-picking, but the idea that feminism is “a la carte” ignores how much all social progress is negotiated. No movement takes on every burden perfectly, and men haven’t either. Men didn’t rush to demand emotional labor, childcare, or nursing work. Feminism isn’t about saying, “Let us skip the hard parts,” it’s about asking, “Why are these the rules in the first place?” Wanting to avoid the draft doesn’t make someone unserious about equality, it … | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 09:41 PM |
| 2 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I get why you feel that way. When you've been ignored or hurt, it makes sense to want to protect yourself by getting louder, harder, more guarded. But here's the thing, fighting might get attention, but it rarely gets understanding. And healing doesn’t mean pretending it’s not bad. It means refusing to let the wound define your identity. What if the strongest thing isn’t striking back, but being able to feel without flinching, to speak without shaming, and to build something that doesn’t rely on… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 09:39 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?That line stings because it's true. Too many men are trained to compete with each other instead of connect. We turn our pain into armor, then blame anyone who tries to reach past it. And instead of healing, we end up lashing out, at women, at each other, even at ourselves. But what if the real power isn’t in fighting harder, it’s in feeling safer? In letting ourselves be human without needing a villain? Men deserve support. We deserve love. But we won’t find it by copying the same dominance game… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 09:28 PM |
| -2 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?You keep insisting I twisted your words, but I never said you were generalizing all women, I asked whether your framing might come across that way in this context. That’s not a strawman, it’s a fair follow-up. You volunteered a stat, 40% of women you've met said something misandrist, in a broader discussion about feminism and society. It’s reasonable to ask if that observation is part of a larger claim or just anecdotal. If it’s the latter, cool, but that still doesn’t mean people are wrong to e… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 09:25 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?You keep saying you’re interpreting my argument, but interpretation doesn’t excuse distortion. You claimed I was generalizing about all women, when I clearly made a personal observation in response to a direct question you asked. I clarified that, yet you continue framing it as a sweeping claim, that’s not dialogue, that’s a setup. Calling something a ‘reflection worth examining’ doesn’t absolve you from misrepresenting tone or intent. If my words landed in a way you found broad, fair enough, th… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 09:13 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I’m not here to twist your words, and I’ve never claimed to represent every woman or invalidate male concerns. My point has always been that when you cite a stat like '40% of women I've met expressed misandry,' it naturally raises the question of whether that observation is being used to support a broader generalization. That’s not a straw man, that’s a question of implication. If your intent was purely anecdotal and not meant to reflect on women more broadly, then I appreciate the clarification… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 09:10 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I’ve asked you multiple times to clarify your position, responded directly to your claims, and quoted your own words, not to distort them, but to engage. If you think I’ve misrepresented you, you’re free to explain why instead of repeating the word ‘strawman’ like a magic spell. Interpretation isn’t misquotation. If the way your argument lands to others sounds broad or hostile, that’s a reflection worth examining, not a debate error. If you're done engaging with ideas and just want to play logic… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 09:04 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Thanks for confirming, it sounds like you were answering a personal question with a personal observation. Fair enough. But here’s where we disagree: If you say 40% of the women you’ve met have said something misandrist, it’s reasonable for people to ask if you’re drawing broader conclusions from that. That’s not twisting your words, that’s exploring their weight. If your point was purely anecdotal, cool. But when you share a stat like that in a conversation about feminism and gender dynamics, it… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 09:01 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?If you believe I misunderstood your intent, that’s exactly why I gave you space to clarify it. But I didn’t say you explicitly said “all women are misandrists,” I said your framing sounds like a generalization, and I asked how you reconcile that. That’s not a straw man. A straw man would be if I invented a totally different position you never stated. I quoted you, responded to the tone and implications of your actual claim, and invited clarification. That’s engagement, not misrepresentation. If … | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 08:56 PM |
| -15 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?That’s fair to raise, but it’s also worth noting that most men didn’t want the draft either, it wasn’t a privilege, it was a burden tied to systemic power structures, not personal agency. Saying early feminists didn’t want the draft as proof they didn’t want “all” responsibilities assumes that equality means adopting every societal injustice men endured, rather than working to challenge and improve the system for everyone. Feminism wasn’t about swapping burdens, it was about dismantling double s… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 08:50 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?If you're that confident I'm misrepresenting you, then clarify this directly: What exactly did you mean when you said “40% of women I've met have said something that indicates misandry”? Because that’s not a neutral stat, it implies a pattern. If you're saying it doesn't reflect on women more broadly, then explain how. But you can't keep making sweeping claims and then say everyone else is distorting you for pointing out the implications. That’s not fallacy, it’s basic accountability. So here's … | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 08:47 PM |
| 0 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?You're quoting the definition of a straw man but applying it in a way that doesn't match what actually happened. I didn’t distort your position, I quoted your own words and asked how they might come across to others. That’s interpretation, not invention. A real straw man would be me making up something you never said at all, then attacking that. But I’ve been engaging directly with what you did say, asking you to clarify if the implication wasn’t your intent. That’s what honest dialogue looks li… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 08:45 PM |
| 0 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I’ve responded directly to what you said, clarified what I meant when needed, and invited you to do the same. If you feel misunderstood, explain your point better. But just saying ‘fallacy’ over and over doesn’t make disagreement go away. That’s not how debate works, it’s how it stalls. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 08:42 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I’m not trying to win some semantic battle here. You said “40% of women I’ve met have expressed misandry,” and I asked how that doesn’t come across as a generalization. That’s not a strawman, it’s interpreting the direction of your argument and giving you a chance to clarify it. Strawman means inventing a fake version of your argument. I didn’t do that, I quoted you and asked questions based on how it reads. If I misunderstood your tone, you’re free to clarify it, but calling every critique a fa… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 08:38 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I’ve asked clarifying questions based on the implications of your words, not twisted them into something you didn’t say. If you felt misrepresented, I’ve repeatedly invited you to explain, so let’s be clear: this isn’t me putting words in your mouth, it’s me responding to how your framing sounds to others. That’s part of real dialogue. You keep saying ‘fallacy’ like it’s a shield, but calling out a generalization or asking someone to own how their claims land isn’t a logical flaw, it’s accountab… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 08:34 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I quoted your own words and asked a fair question based on how they land to others. That’s not bad faith, that’s called engagement. Saying 40% of the women you’ve met have shown signs of misandry isn’t just a casual stat, it carries weight. When someone hears that, it naturally raises concerns about broader generalizations, even if you didn’t mean it that way. If you're confident in your argument, there's no need to accuse others of misrepresenting you every time they ask for clarification. Dial… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 08:33 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Just to be clear, I wasn’t accusing you of saying all women are ideologues, I was pointing out that your framing makes it sound that way. That’s not a strawman, that’s called interpreting tone and implication. If you feel I misunderstood your tone, that’s exactly why I asked for clarification. Honest dialogue includes calling out implications, not just quoting words. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 08:31 PM |
| 2 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?That’s a fair point to clarify, but a couple things seem off. For one, the idea that “young men vote Left” isn’t as true today as it was in the past. Recent data shows young men have been trending more conservative in the U.S. and parts of Europe, especially in contrast to young women. Also, if women voting more left-leaning is a problem, the solution isn’t to blame them for participating in democracy, it’s to engage the ideas shaping those views. Democracy means disagreement, not demographic bl… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 08:29 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?You're trying to make sweeping claims without being accountable for how they land. You say 40% of women you’ve met have expressed misandry, that’s not a neutral observation. It leads people to reasonably ask, “Are you implying women are the problem?” That’s not a straw man. That’s someone tracking the logical conclusion of your words. If you don’t like how it sounds, maybe it’s worth rethinking how you’re framing things, not blaming people for hearing what you’re implying. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 08:22 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?That’s fair, and I appreciate you pointing out where you feel misrepresented. To clarify: I didn’t say you said “all women are ideologues.” I said you’re making it sound like that. There’s a difference between saying “this is your explicit argument” and “this is how your argument comes across.” I was challenging the implication, not putting words in your mouth. And that’s not a straw man. A straw man would be if I fabricated an entirely different argument just to tear it down. What I did was res… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 08:19 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?You keep calling my responses “fallacies,” but what I’ve actually done is quote your own words and ask you to clarify them. That’s not misrepresentation, it’s engagement. Saying that “40% of women you’ve met have said things that indicate misandry” is not the same as me claiming “you said 40% of all women are misandrists.” What I did was point out how that kind of language sounds and invited you to explain your intent, not accuse you of something you didn’t say. Same with the “feminist theory of… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 08:16 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?That wasn’t a straw man. I didn’t say you claimed all women are ideologues, I said your framing makes it sound like that. There’s a difference between repeating someone’s exact words and pointing out how their words are likely to be received. If that’s not your intention, then clarify, but don’t accuse me of distortion for giving honest feedback on how your argument lands. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 08:08 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Rare-Discipline3774•1h ago I don't talk about politics outside of reddit, and I'd say about 40% of the women I've met have said something that indicates misandry. But that is strawman, no one has stated in this discussion that women are the problem, you are only insisting that's what's being said. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 08:01 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?You keep saying I’m misquoting you, but I’ve quoted your words directly and asked for clarification each time. That’s not a fallacy, it’s engagement. As for ‘ad hominem,’ pointing out the implications of someone’s argument isn’t a personal attack, it’s called accountability. If you’re going to make broad claims about women or feminism, expect people to ask hard questions. That’s how dialogue works. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 07:58 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?That’s fair, to a point. But if you’re arguing that a movement should be judged solely by its loudest or most extreme actors, that logic cuts both ways. Would you want men’s rights judged entirely by incels or Reddit rage-posts? Probably not. Most movements have nuance, and most people in them aren’t writing manifestos, they’re just living their values quietly. So if we’re going to judge feminism by outcomes, let’s also look at the rights it helped win, not just the tweets it didn’t write. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 07:53 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?If you think I’m being fallacious, feel free to name the exact argument and explain the flaw. But just repeating ‘fallacy’ doesn’t make it true. I’ve been quoting your words, asking for clarification, and staying on topic. If that’s too much for you, maybe it’s not the logic that’s the problem, it’s the discomfort of being challenged. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 07:42 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?You keep tossing around words like 'strawman' and 'tu quoque' as if naming fallacies ends the conversation. But pointing to a fallacy doesn’t automatically make you right, especially when you haven’t shown where the logic actually breaks down. It just sounds like you’re trying to sound smart to avoid engaging with the point. If you really believe in reasoned debate, show it. Don’t just drop debate club terms and walk away. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 07:38 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?If asking questions and quoting your own words is trolling, maybe it’s not the questions that are the problem. I’m not here to ‘reconnect’ anything, I’m here to have an honest conversation. If that feels threatening, maybe ask why | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 07:34 PM |
| 2 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Interesting how the argument pivots from "women didn’t want rights" to "women getting rights destroyed society." Which is it? You’re connecting cherry-picked history with fear-based predictions, not cause and effect. Women didn’t push society left, technology, globalization, and inequality did. And men voted too, so blaming women alone for policy outcomes is just scapegoating. Also, saying modern feminism leads to communism or invasion? That’s not analysis, that’s alarmism. The world is more com… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 07:29 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?If you believe I’ve misrepresented you, I’m open to correction, but saying “feminist theory is an institution” and throwing out a list of fallacies doesn’t actually answer the core point: Why do you think naming male struggles requires denying female ones? We can talk about both without rewriting history or turning this into a blame war. That’s the whole point of real accountability. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 07:21 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?You’re right to want precision, so let me clarify: I quoted your words directly, “40% of women I’ve met have said something that indicates misandry.” If that’s not the same as saying 40% are sexist, then help me understand the distinction you're making. I’m not trying to misrepresent you, I’m trying to follow your logic. If it came off like an attack, that wasn’t the intent. I just think if we’re going to talk about these issues seriously, we have to be able to own the weight of our own words. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 07:15 PM |
| -4 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?It’s like saying “not all white people owned slaves” in a conversation about slavery, it distracts from the structural injustice by pointing out a narrow exception. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 07:13 PM |
| 2 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?That’s true, early voting rights were restricted by land ownership and class, not just gender. But the key difference is, once those barriers were lifted for men, women were still excluded solely because of gender. That’s what made the feminist movement necessary. It wasn’t about special treatment, it was about catching up to rights men were already gaining. Let’s not erase that context. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 07:12 PM |
| 3 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?If “most” pushes for inclusion are misandry, that’s a pretty broad claim, one that sounds more like resentment than reason. And “feminist revisionism” isn’t a magic eraser. Historical oppression of women is well-documented. You can disagree with modern takes, but denying the past doesn’t make your argument stronger. Accountability means we can name injustice without needing a scapegoat. That goes for both genders. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 07:10 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Not a strawman if I’m quoting your own words. You said 40% of women you’ve met showed signs of misandry. I asked how that doesn’t amount to implying women are part of the problem. If you meant something more nuanced, just say that. But don’t accuse me of misrepresenting you when I’m literally asking for clarity. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 07:08 PM |
| -5 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Totally agree, men’s spaces should be both supportive and strengthening. We need room to process pain, build each other up, and learn how to navigate the world with integrity. But I think we’ve got to be careful not to slip into a siege mentality. Not every critique is an attack, and not every feminist space is trying to erase men. Some are just tired of being blamed for problems they didn’t create. The real strength of a men’s movement isn’t in defensiveness, it’s in modeling accountability, em… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 07:05 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Rare-Discipline3774 "I don't talk about politics outside of reddit, and I'd say about 40% of the women I've met have said something that indicates misandry. But that is strawman, no one has stated in this discussion that women are the problem, you are only insisting that's what's being said." | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 07:05 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Sure, those positions come with responsibility, but they also come with power, wealth, and influence. If men hold nearly all of them, it’s hard to argue society is “anti-male.” That sounds less like oppression and more like discomfort with changing expectations. Nobody’s saying men don’t struggle. But framing every push for accountability or inclusion as “gynocentric misandry” just keeps us stuck. Growth isn’t erasure. It’s evolution. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 07:02 PM |
| 3 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?YouTube shooter? That’s your example of modern feminist terrorism? One unstable individual with no confirmed ties to feminism? That’s like blaming all men’s movements for every mass shooter who felt rejected by women. Your logic swings wildly, first claiming women didn’t want the vote (ignoring how many fought, protested, and were jailed for it), then suggesting land ownership was too stressful for them, as if centuries of legal exclusion were just a choice. That’s not historical analysis, it’s … | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 07:00 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?You literally said 40% of the women you’ve met said something “that indicates misandry.” That’s not me distorting your words, it’s me quoting them. If that’s not implying women are the problem, then clarify what you are trying to say. Because from the outside, it reads like you’re projecting online frustration onto half the population while dodging accountability for how it sounds. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 06:51 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?"Anti-male" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Men dominate government, tech, finance, law enforcement, media ownership, you name it. Most CEOs, presidents, and billionaires are male. If society truly hated men, it’s doing a terrible job of showing it. Sometimes what feels like oppression is just being asked to grow. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 06:48 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?If calling out overgeneralization is a strawman, maybe the argument wasn’t that strong to begin with. You said 40% of women you’ve met expressed misandry, but then claim “no one said women are the problem.” Feels like you want to say it without saying it, then cry foul when it’s repeated back plainly. That’s not a strawman. That’s holding the mirror up. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 06:44 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Just interesting how calling out generalizations gets labeled as a strawman, but claiming 40% of women are misandrist based on vague Reddit-level impressions is fair game. Kinda feels like the narrative only flows one direction here. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 06:37 PM |
| 3 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?That’s fair, but if you’re not having these conversations in real life, how can you be sure your perception isn’t skewed? Reddit isn’t a mirror of the real world, it’s a megaphone for extremes. I just don’t see the broad anti-male hostility you’re describing in my offline life. I think we have to be careful not to confuse internet noise with actual cultural consensus. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 06:36 PM |
| 3 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?That’s a pretty selective reading of history. If debates alone were enough, women wouldn’t have been excluded from voting, owning property, or attending university for centuries. Peaceful paths only work when those in power are actually listening. But here’s a question: if feminism today is really the threat you say it is, how many modern feminists are bombing buildings? You don’t see that anymore, not because women changed, but because society finally gave them basic rights and a seat at the ta… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 06:28 PM |
| -1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Totally honest question: how many women are you actually talking to in real life who say this stuff? I date, I listen, I engage, with feminists, non-feminists, politically active and apolitical women, and I rarely, if ever, hear the kind of sweeping misandry you’re describing. Online extremes don’t represent the whole. Sometimes we confuse the loudest voices for the majority. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 06:21 PM |
| 2 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?That’s real, and I hear the pain in it. But I think we’ve confused strength with armor for too long. Teaching men to fight is valuable, but so is teaching them how not to fight everyone, including themselves. Wholeness isn’t weakness. It’s what lets us survive without losing who we are. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 06:20 PM |
| 3 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Totally agree. It’s about reclaiming something healthy that got lost, not exclusion, just space to be honest without performance. Respect for building that back. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 06:17 PM |
| -3 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Curious, how many women do you actually talk to in real life? I date a lot, have close friendships with women, and I rarely, if ever, hear them say the kinds of things you’re claiming are mainstream. You’re making it sound like all women are ideologues, but that’s just not reality. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 06:15 PM |
| 4 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?You’re right that violence deserves scrutiny, no cause is above that. But historical context matters. The suffragettes weren’t bombing to spread fear randomly, they were fighting to be treated as full citizens in a society that gave them no peaceful path to that goal. That’s not the same as terrorism for domination or profit. And no, I don’t condone violence. But I do try to understand what drives people there, because if we ignore the root causes, we just repeat the cycle with a new label. That… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 06:12 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I hear that, and I get the frustration with what mainstream feminism sometimes becomes. But just because certain feminists have said harmful things doesn’t mean the whole movement is irredeemable, or that every woman agrees with those extremes. I’m not saying men should take responsibility for misandry. I’m saying we model what responsibility and strength look like, instead of mirroring the same kind of bitterness we’re pushing back against. Because when we lump all women or all feminists togeth… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 06:09 PM |
| -3 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Calling the suffragettes “terrorists” without context is like saying American colonists were terrorists because they rebelled against British control. Both groups used extreme tactics, yes, but driven by a desperate demand for rights, not destruction for its own sake. It’s easy to judge from comfort; harder to ask why people are pushed that far. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 06:05 PM |
| -12 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I think it's more nuanced than that. The MRM and early feminism weren’t mutually exclusive ideas, they emerged from different responses to systemic gaps. Feminism formed because women literally couldn’t vote, hold property, or access education. That’s not hate, that’s advocacy. Yes, some radical tactics existed in both movements, but defining an entire movement by its fringe is like saying all of MRM is incel rage, which I know isn’t fair either. There’s space to acknowledge both: that men’s iss… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 06:02 PM |
| -38 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I get the point you’re making, but I think that framing oversimplifies history. Early feminists wanted the responsibilities too, they fought to work, vote, serve, and be held as full citizens, not just beneficiaries. The push was for equality, not supremacy. Yes, modern movements can lose the plot sometimes, but let’s not rewrite the origin. Wanting dignity and agency isn’t the same as dodging responsibility. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 05:55 PM |
| 2 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Appreciate you doing that, man. Creating real spaces for men to talk and feel without judgment is rare and important. We need more of that, not less. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 05:51 PM |
| -3 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I get that you’re passionate, and I’m not here to dismiss the real issues men face. But saying “no one is angry” while using language like “animals” and “bourgeoisie” shows that this is emotional, even if we’ve been taught not to admit it. Pointing out injustice is fair. What I’m questioning is how we do it. If we tell young men their pain can’t be healed until an ideology collapses, we trap them in permanent victimhood. That’s not empowerment. That’s paralysis. We can still stand up for ourselv… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 05:50 PM |
| -1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?And for any man reading this who’s struggling, I see you. I know what it’s like to feel alone, dismissed, or like no one gives a damn what you’re going through. That ache is real. And it doesn’t make you weak. But here’s why healing, real healing, matters more than rage: because it gives you your power back. When we just react to pain by fighting or blaming, we stay tethered to it. But when we process it, name it, and start to release it, we stop needing the world to change before we can breathe… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 05:39 PM |
| -4 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?I hear the frustration behind this, and I don’t think it’s fake. But pain doesn’t equal oppression. Men do face real issues: in family court, in emotional repression, in being unheard. But framing it as a zero-sum war with women isn’t healing. It’s projection. The Men's Rights Movement could be powerful if it focused on healing men without hating women. If it told the truth about male pain without needing to cast women as the enemy. Because the truth is, we were all raised in systems that fail b… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 05:33 PM |
| 1 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?This is heartfelt, and I think you’re naming something real: a lot of men are grieving in silence, and that silence hardens into distrust. But the answer can’t just be building immunity to pain. That’s how you end up emotionally numb and isolated. What men need isn’t just protection from hurt, it’s the courage to heal without needing to prove that the world cares first. Safe spaces are essential, but so is allowing those spaces to soften us, not just steel us. Yes, it sucks when people don’t und… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 05:26 PM |
| -59 | What’s Actually Going On in a Lot of “Men’s Rights” Spaces?Feminism didn’t start as a hate group. It started because women weren’t even allowed to vote until about 100 years ago. The core of it was about wanting the same rights men had. When you let rage take over, you risk becoming exactly what you claim to hate, just in reverse. It’s not strength to mirror the very hostility you’re fighting against. It’s just recycled pain. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 05:11 PM |
| 30 | What’s something a woman did that instantly made you feel unsafe, even if it wasn’t aggressive?When someone tries to emotionally control you through guilt, shame, or silence. It’s not aggressive on the surface, but it rewires your nervous system over time. You start to second-guess your truth just to keep the peace. That’s when safety quietly disappears. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/25 04:19 PM |
| 2 | This is why boys are continuously lagging behind in education than girlsYeah, this is a really important set of data, and it lines up with what a lot of people have been noticing anecdotally for years. Boys are falling behind, and the system isn’t adapting. Schools need to do a much better job meeting boys where they are, in a way that’s backed by neuroscience, education research, and emotional development, without pathologizing masculinity or reinforcing outdated stereotypes. We need solutions that are fact-based, compassionate, and inclusive. Not anti-female or re… | /r/MensRights | 19/05/25 02:45 AM |
| 6 | Article: pre-nups actually prevent divorceAbsolutely agree, especially for anyone with significant assets or a high net worth, a prenup is just smart planning. It’s not about expecting failure, it’s about creating clarity and protection for both parties. Ironically, having that clarity upfront can actually reduce conflict down the line and lead to stronger, more honest partnerships. | /r/MensRights | 19/05/25 02:38 AM |
| 0 | Seeking Input from Men on Emotional Regulation and Political IdentityHey, just to clarify, I’m actually a guy myself. The survey isn’t affiliated with any group or agenda. I’m doing this as part of a broader behavioral research project I started on my own, and I’m genuinely trying to understand how emotional patterns (including things men often don’t get space to talk about) can influence political and social identity. I’d never use this data to attack or stereotype anyone, I’m trying to humanize, not demonize. Totally understand the skepticism, though. Appreciat… | /r/MensRights | 19/05/25 02:06 AM |
| 0 | Seeking Input from Men on Emotional Regulation and Political IdentityAbsolutely, I’d be happy to share the results with the group once I have a decent sample size and run the analysis. I’m already getting some really insightful responses, and I think the findings could spark some meaningful discussion here. Thanks for your interest! | /r/MensRights | 19/05/25 02:00 AM |
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