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The gender pay gap is mostly from 2 things: 1) men are assumed to be more competent even when resumes are identical, and are offered higher starting salary, This is illegal, feel free to get a lawyer and sue if you think this is happening at a business. esp after there are kids, men start shafting women with all the childcare and domestic labor, and women who have careers suffer at work and need to work less hours and become less productive. I'm sorry but if you can't handle domestic labour, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:52 PM
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sense of superiority. Delete this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:28 PM
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It's only admitted when there's a hard screaming fact I'm sorry but in what clown world is this statement supposed to be problematic?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:17 PM
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Date rape? OP talked about blind dates, date rapes mostly occur with acquaintances you already know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:17 PM
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Like 99% of assaults against women don't occur during blind dates where you're in a nice, public restaurant or a park. You can't realistically look at me in the face and tell me that the risk of getting assaulted during a blind date is so high that we should now label dating "easier for men" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:15 PM
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Yes, I'll proudly admit to being one of those retards who puts facts above their emotions, unlike the enlightened feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:11 PM
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Men? So? We're looking at victimisation rates, right? Women are less likely to be victimised than men, therefore women have it easier, it's not that hard to understand man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:10 PM
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I'm sorry but you do understand that the current hierarchial system does indeed have a bias towards people who are better looking and/or taller? The caste system already exists, there is no scenario where ugly people or short people as a collective will end up dominating with the current blue pill system. Children should be taught the concept of SMV responsibly, like when you teach them any complex topics, because at the end of the day they'll end up learning it as they grow older and get more e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:09 PM
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You just contradicted yourself lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:07 PM
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I mean the data is there, which gender can get sex more frequently? Which gender can get into relationships more easily? Which gender is more likely to divorce and more likely to benefit from it? Which gender is more likely to bare the financial burden of the dating process? Which gender is more likely to take less risks and still be successful? Etc etc. There's many measurable statistics that can be used to determine that women have pretty blatant advantages when it comes to dating, it's not th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:05 PM
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So trans men who claim that dating is harder than men clearly don't know what it's like to be a woman, all the women in my circle who aren't delusional and understand that dating is objectively more difficult for men are also Not True Women™ too?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:03 PM
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Most disadvantages nowadays are purely down to biological circumstances and women choosing to remain at a disadvantage because it benefits them (for example, sex-segregated sports, and women refusing to take up labor intensive trade jobs or C-suite positions. In West, I can think of 0 institutional disadvantages that were created purely because men think women are inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:01 PM
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That risk is very exaggerated, in addition men are far more likely to be victims of assault. So even in this hyperbolic scenario women do in fact have it easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:57 PM
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Women also have an easier time getting into relationships lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:56 PM
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That's true if you were born in the 1950s, women my age (18-20) are definitely not being conditioned to be humble bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:56 PM
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Right, men don't accept their "privilege" because it isn't backed by facts, for example the gender pay gap. However, I'll gladly to admit to something that is factual, like for example women not being able to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:54 PM
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I don't think you understand that a caste system already exists and that the blue pill is teaching men to pretend like it doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:52 PM
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That's basically the blue pill and it seems to be slowly failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:24 PM
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Is it worse or better than the blue pill which is currently being given to most young males?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:24 PM
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Idk what you're on about but here in the middle of the richest part of Paris it took me about 300 EUR to find a quality escort, and that's with illegal prostitution which is bound to make things more expensive. 300-400 dollars is within the reach of the average man with an average income that's starved for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:51 PM
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Lmaooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 05:19 PM
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Of course it's better, but OP is saying it's not worth it, aka the reward Vs the effort put in us not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:39 PM
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The confidence that comes with knowing that you can accomplish a goal, and knowing that your body objectively looks good to most girls who will talk to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 02:58 PM
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Thanks for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:33 PM
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We're not discussing sexual satisfaction, we're discussing sexual activity, quit posting irrelevant studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:30 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian_bed_death#:~:text=Only%20about%20one%2Dthird%20of,once%20a%20week%20or%20less. Among the results, Blumstein and Schwartz concluded that lesbian couples in committed relationships have less sex than any other type of couple (heterosexual married, heterosexual co-habitating or gay male) and that they generally experience less sexual intimacy the longer the relationship lasts. Also According to psychologist and scholar Letitia Anne Peplau, research studies ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:26 PM
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JJ Walker wasn't ugly when he was young, he was average. He's also a celebrity, for women status>looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:25 PM
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Check the number of times gay couples have sex Vs the number of times heterosexual couples have sex Vs the number of times lesbian couples have sex. Statistically, the more women there are, the less sexually active a relationship is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:29 PM
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How is refusing to get married governed by emotions, exactly? There's literally a statistical risk involved that you can't just magic away with your feels, not getting married because of that risk is purely rational lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 10:32 PM
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Umm no? If a judge literally ignores the law then you can appeal it and likely win, that is guarantee. However there is no law protecting prenups, if a family court tells you fuck your prenup then you don't really have much of a choice. The only true guarantee to not get fucked during a divorce is to not sign a marriage contract in the first place, in addition to being registered under two separate home addresses (some states will consider you married under common law if you live in the same hou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:54 AM
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No a lot of them are absolutely aware they're misogynistic, if anything it's their experience with women that make them this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:49 AM
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Prenups aren't guaranteed either, a judge can throw it out at any time. Don’t have a SAHW and you won’t have to pay out. Easy. What if I love this person? Am I supposed to get fucked by the government for their life choices? Also did you seriously imply divorce isn't spontaneous and can be planned for lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:55 PM
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https://jnylaw.com/what-are-the-odds-of-being-injured-in-a-car-crash/#:~:text=Two%20million%20people%20in%20our,in%20a%20crash%20gets%20hurt. Your statistics are pulled out of your ass. Also your comparing a fucking car crash (which can range from a scratch to a full blown fatality) to a divorce, I'll leave you to guess which one is more likely to affect your livelihood severely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:39 PM
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Not planning on having kids, but I will be getting married without a contract. You do know you can enjoy a long term relationship without requesting the government to get involved, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:24 PM
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Bruh even a 20% chance is too fucking high.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:23 PM
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The last time I checked anything I had acquired prior to the marriage stays mine. Depends on the state and a judge can definitely consider pre-marriage property to be marital property especially if the court sides with the woman, which they often do. Also even then, if a man spends all of his earnings acquiring assets that didn't require any input from the wife, why should he be forced to give up half of it? Sounds like complete theft. Also don't marry a stay at house moms, if woman does have he…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:22 PM
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Yes but it also majorly includes single men who aren't in relationships, your statistic is useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:16 PM
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I trust the 40% figure You can go ahead and gamble half your assets with a 40% risk of failure though, trust issues? Seriously? Why is it that women freak when I suggest getting "married" without a marriage contract, surely our relationship is more valuable than the government's approval? Sounds like I'm not the one with the trust issues to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:13 PM
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Yeah except I need a car, and a car is under my control. I don't need a marriage contract, and if I have to sign it to please my wife then it's no longer under my control. Also I'm 99% sure the risk of being in a car accident is much lower than experiencing divorce if you're married.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:11 PM
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Bruh, what you're claiming is pretty subjective and impossible to quantify. You know what's not hard to measure though? That 40% figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:07 PM
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Would you go into a casino and willingly bet 50% of your life savings when you know there's a 40% chance of failure? No, you wouldn't, what kind of rational actor would do that? Women are lucky that marriage contracts are signed with love, lack of foresight and clear stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:05 PM
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You mean to tell me sexually successful men aren't most of the time misogynistic as fuck? Lmaoooo ok
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:42 PM
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You're assuming that for every 1 man, there is 1 woman, when in reality it's for every top man there are 10 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:40 PM
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That is such a cop-out, there is such a thing called a general consensus, you know
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:37 PM
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She's more known on insta though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 04:50 PM
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Hell of an assumption, I'm not that selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 04:43 PM
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Seriously what kind of retard thinks this phrase isn't commonly spouted in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 01:48 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 01:32 PM
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Who said she was young? And also depending on his social circle that can be entirely acceptable behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:53 AM
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Umm, blue pillers are out here thinking that personality matters so much that your looks shouldn't matter either, so yeah there are some humans trying to make that claim, especially women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:52 AM
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Vulnerability is part of the red pill, have you never read Models?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:50 AM
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The average ugly person is not gonna achieve O'Neill's comedy, status or wealth. If you're saying you basically have to belong to the top 1% of men in order to become attractive if you're ugly, then you're basically saying they have no chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:48 AM
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I mean yeah, check lesbian couple's sexual activity compared to gay couples and heterosexual couples. Gay couples rank the highest followed by hetero couples followed by lesbians, clearly men are not the gatekeepers here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:46 AM
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You can definitely talk about Jordan Peterson and Mark Manson, who's books sold tens of millions of copies. Yeah sure, the red pill hasn't taken hold of the cultural zeitgeist like Marvel, or the Karshadians have, but it's pretty fucking popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:43 AM
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You can’t hide what you believe and if you actually believe women are trash or that women will only date chad that shit shines through in everything you say and do. Nah, if women had this supposed sixth sense they would sniff out all the abusive assholes they're in a relationship with before shit started hitting the fan for Stacy and Kimberly. Unfortunately they don't, women are stupid and easily manipulated, I know so many sexually successful men who think women are trash, do you think the aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:40 AM
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What "rapey shit" does the red pill promote exactly? The red pill goes out of its way to say that blaming women for their shortcomings is an incorrect way of thinking, it literally abstains itself from making moral judgements quite explicitly, it very clearly states that it's here to help men get around those shortcomings and nothing more. If you want an ideology that deducts observations and makes moral judgements based off of these observations, check out feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:33 AM
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Oh please, you don't have to use the red pill terminology to understand that the red pill itself is genuinely popular. Ask any sexually successful above average looking men what their "dating tactics" are, watch them flood out red pill-esque strategies without even knowing what the red pill is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:27 AM
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Red Pill works for all men but the blue pill is objectively easier and thus high value men have no reason to not seek the path of least resistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:23 AM
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Getting into relationships is also easier for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:11 AM
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Same here, because it's one of their few "struggles" that doesn't make me laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:11 AM
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I mean he was confident enough to do that loudly in public in front of his social circle and not feel ashamed? Clearly he has status, which far outclasses yours. I don't know about looks but since he rejected you I'm gonna go ahead and assume he thinks he deserves better, and he's getting that confidence partially from his looks too. So yeah, sorry not sorry, this is what I would tell men too lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:07 AM
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We're not saying your filters don't exist, we're saying they're complete trash as soon Chad shows up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:05 AM
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This, women are absolutely oblivious to assholes that men can spot a mile away unless if if they're beaten over the head with it (literally and metaphorically).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:02 AM
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Rejection can take my forms. One time, I spread it through the grapevine that I thought a boy was cute. He called me a whore in front of everyone in our grade using his native language for the next year. He was very popular. Guess he thought he was cool. Yeah that's not asking out, the boy was an asshole but that's not asking out. Another time, I wrote a boy a note and told him I was growing to like him. He spat on my note in front of a bus of people, and he told me I tried too hard. This boy wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:00 AM
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Jesus Christ I'm sick of women pretending like trends don't exist, yes it's obvious not every woman likes to be catcalled, can most of these women live with the same level of attention men get though? Doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 03:20 PM
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So umm you agree it's not the same thing, right? Men have no matches, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:52 PM
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A female 10 is not only super attractive but also has wealth and status, I think the probability is so low that a random redditor would never meet or know an 10 who uses dating apps regularly and gets zero matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:40 PM
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I go online and see the exact same thing women who are 10s saying they don’t get matches, no one asks them out, they keep getting ghosted, Caaaaaaaap, it's either that or your friend is actually a 2/10 lmao But then again you say they're so attractive that they get harassed constantly, yet they can't land a single date and they keep getting ghosted? Yeah ok
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:38 PM
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Men are sexually frustrated and because the object of that frustration is women, they get blamed and attacked when the reality is dating is just shitty in general for both genders because of various social factors. Denial is at an all time high, even women who transitioned are claiming that dating for men is objectively harder than it is for women. Women are crying about starving in a grocery store, men are crying about starving in a desert, there's no way they both have it equally as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:37 PM
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Women are very aware of being a booty call 🧢🧢🧢
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:34 PM
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Asia has herbivore men though, being a neckbeard who doesn't go outside is socially accepted there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:33 PM
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I honestly doubt women don't want to be objectified either. Like yeah, I'm supposed to believe you're wearing a pound of makeup, skin-tight clothing and revealing outfits because you don't want to show off your body? Big 🧢 I'm not saying catcalling is okay, just stop pretending like you want zero attention please.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:30 PM
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They are, video games, social media porn and Netflix, trust me without them either the sexless rate will go down or social strife will fucking skyrocket, ain't no in-between.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:23 AM
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Lmao 50% of women in the US are pro-life, you underestimate the amount of women in the country who absolutely loathe the sexual revolution and its consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:22 AM
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You underestimate how easy life is in the West compared to literally any country in South East Asia. Also it's a status symbol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:53 PM
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I thought you misunderstood OP, he meant to say that extreme situations require extreme solutions if all the other solutions don't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:51 PM
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My grandma was quite happy in her marriage lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 01:06 PM
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Try to stop me 😳
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 10:48 AM
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I honestly think most women back then were looking for these type of relationships, it's ridiculous to assume they didn't perpetuate the patriarchy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 04:14 AM
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Women talk this much shit but then bitch and moan when you talk about using monkeybranching tactics on them, it's fucking hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 04:10 AM
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He just said he wouldn't lmao are you okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 04:09 AM
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Girls that are ignoring you on text tend to respond well to being ignored back, just how it is (also who said the goal isn't being passive agressive? She's being an asshole, have some fun with it) Texting 20 minutes later after she ignored you for a week is some beta shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 03:59 AM
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You really think the average young girl is out there working 12 hour shifts in a job that doesn't allow phone usage? Like cyber security or some shit? Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 03:55 AM
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Okay? You're telling me middle schoolers don't have time to text? Because they fullfil all the requirements you mentioned for it to be permissible to ignore someone. Motherfucker you are simply not high on the priority list, the average girl who's taking ages to respond is actually having a back and forth text conversation with her best friends, again, and I can't stress this enough, if she's ignoring you or taking time to answer, it's not because she's busy, it's because she doesn't give a fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 03:51 AM
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Third response: ignore them once they reply back, watch them cry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 03:49 AM
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Anybody saying "they're too busy to text" is lying to you lmao Trust me if it's their best friend of their mother texting them they'll respond in a heartbeat, that means they saw your text and are just ignoring it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 03:45 AM
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I swear I wish I was born a hot woman, fuck this shit is so unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 09:12 PM
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Yes, there is lmao You can quantify attractiveness to an extent, there are some things that objectively make you more attractive to a larger pool of women; height, status, social proof, money and dick size being the most easy to calculate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 09:12 PM
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Women get killed when they try and leave. Lmaooo ok, this is such a statistically unlikely event that it's not even worth bringing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 09:08 PM
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Of course preselection only works in your social circle bruh, do you think ugly girls don't have moderately attractive or hot girlfriends? Do you think men don't have any attractive acquaintes that preselection wouldn't have an effect on? Also you clearly don't understand the concept of monkeybranching, you branch by waiting until the relationship runs its inevitable course (or you do your best to make sure it ends speedily) and then you use your increased desirability to bag a hotter girlfriend…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:33 AM
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Well then say it like it is and don't call it cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:27 AM
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Monkey branching happens in real life with a ton of people who don't use Reddit too bytheway. Literally ask any sexually successful man you know if preselection works and they'll you yes in a heartbeat (unless if you're a woman, in which case they might lie to you lmao)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:26 AM
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Right, but if you saw him in real life being all nice with his girlfriend you would absolutely not think this. Do you people seriously believe that preselection doesn't exist or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:21 AM
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That's only if you're trying to bag obscenely beautiful women using a hot chick, you have to do it gradually, ie bag an ugly girl then move up to an average girl, average girls are pretty much as high as you need to go for preselection with hot girls to start taking effect, average girls especially have a ton of hot friends lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:19 AM
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Why does this even need to be explained, like why do blue pillers automatically assume the man will do the most garbo thing possible and cheat on his girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:15 AM
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Women are people, people are dumb and easily manipulated by the most retarded things. What's your point? That's preselection doesn't work? Because that's also a retarded ass point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:14 AM
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Men and women in creative fields are pretty equal, minus sports of course. Actresses = actors, female and male singers, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:54 PM
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Please explain how society values men more if they're the ones being sent to die in battle across history. Clearly, biologically, humans are built to put women and children above men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:53 PM
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Yeah, it's called a statistical bell curve, the top 1% of men are more valued than the top 1% of women but the bottom 80% of women are more valued than the bottom 80% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:52 PM
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Doesn't matter, it's been in effect for over a generation, there is still a stigma around having female children over there
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:35 PM
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Yeah, Russian culture in general is a-okay with cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:32 PM
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I don't get it, saying Mark Manson is not associated with the red pill is like saying Jesus is not associated with the Bible. Like yeah, he didn't directly write the damn rules, but his books and his personality in general are what the red pill mainly consists of, there would be no red pill without Mark's and Corey's works.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:15 AM
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Excuses, the United States has some of the best weather on earth, you don't have to walk to work, but just walk in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:16 PM
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I don't see how your comment relates to what I said lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:06 PM
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have any ulterior motives And now let's see if any of his female besties are ugly as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:40 PM
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He wrote Models, it's mentioned in the red pill sidebar as a cornerstone of the philosophy, so yeah he's a red-piller. He also wrote the Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck, which I think is a must read for any man trying to improve themselves. He's not a blue piller or a black piller that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:44 PM
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You're allowed to enjoy food once you shed the fat, I also have NO idea how a man eating less is gonna affect your relationship in any way, unless if your entire life revolves around eating fatty food which would be pretty sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:42 PM
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There's a difference between an end-stage fully red-pilled person and a beta who just recently discovered the red pill and is trying to adopt it. I have no idea how I can simplify this idea for you any further.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:40 PM
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Man, it means that I wouldn't mind looking like them 20 years later
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:49 PM
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Mark Manson and Corey Balrog are pretty attractive for their age
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:41 PM
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Desirable men are already red pilled, men who are in the process of becoming red pilled are the ones still hanging around on the online forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:40 PM
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MGK bagged Megan Fox and Sommeray, I'm not sure he's the counterexample you want to be using
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 01:41 PM
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Untrue, hot women don't have a hidden sixth sense, and the proof is I've known many women who fell for real assholes and only after months of abuse did they realise what was going on, you can absolutely fake it till you make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 01:35 PM
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This is why modern political correctness is absolutely retarded. OKAY, a woman is an intangible, incalculable being, anybody can be a woman, but if anybody can be a woman then how do you identify a woman? If anybody can be a woman then why do men feel the need to transition, to act more feminine, to take puberty and testosterone blockers to change their voice, to have longer hair, etc, etc, in order to become a woman? This is what happens when you start breaking down definitions without having a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 01:08 PM
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I can also get an anime bodypillow, put a hole into it and fuck it, after all if it looks like a woman then it must be a woman right? I am attracted to biological women, if I see a person who looks like a woman, and I later find out that they're actually trans, I would be instantly 100% turned off, there's no explanation for it, it's just human nature, and your gender reassignment surgery isn't gonna change that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 01:02 PM
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Superstraight? You mean normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 01:00 PM
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There's literally no other way to lose weight to ripped levels at an acceptable pace without cutting down your calories significantly below maintenance level. You can always eat like a pig and workout like Dawyn Jhonson though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:26 PM
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You don't need to exercise more than the average person who goes to the gym. And yes every single one of these fit/slim bodies were achieved by not eating like a pig, humans looked like that well before the gym existed. Also eating a pizza once a week is not a big deal, especially if you're young and you're going to the gym the next day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:23 AM
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Eating low calories takes literally zero physical time out of your life, it takes mental effort sure, but how in the fuck does it obstruct you from socialising lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:17 AM
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What you're referring to are aesthetic gym muscles, basically you make the muscles look big by working out with a lot of reps and a low weight. They look huge, and they're still somewhat strong, but not as strong as muscles cultivated from primarily strength exercises with low reps and high weights or high reps and high weights.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:15 AM
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So like, strongman dad bode or an actual dad bode?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:11 AM
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the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:31 PM
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Coercion? Who is being threatened or blackmailed here? Bruh words have meaning, lying about your virginity is not coercing a woman to have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:19 PM
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Or you can fucking become relationship material. I hope you see now why the male suicide rate has skyrocketed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:46 PM
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You are a human being, at some point, the lack of male companionship/sex will weigh on you, so no, you won't rather never date again.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:45 PM
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The dating market has determined that you are not worthy of green, stop chasing green until you improve yourself enough to qualify for LTR with green men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:36 PM
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Reality is brainwashing? Lmao keep living in dream world where high value men will marry average or below average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:33 PM
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Who says feminists aren't also being delusional?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:25 PM
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Pretty much every girl at the gym is like 8 minimum so yeah the looks threshold is huge.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:46 AM
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Bruh short tight shorts allow skin-on-skin contact, which is the biggest cause of chafing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:43 AM
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Categories will exist until the end of time as a general rule of thumb
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 08:23 PM
2

Are you saying my fear is irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:14 AM
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Really? You would only be a little upset if your wife started flirting and telling another man "I love you"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:42 AM
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Yes, women don't do seek men out or agree on dates unless they're at least a little sexually or romantically attracted, just the way it is with 99% of women who aren't family.
/r/newTRP29/06/22 12:33 AM
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What? Have you ever heard of a statistical probability? It is far more probable that the number will continue to go down and not up, especially as generation Alpha, the gen that was born and raised with social media, eventually enters adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:24 AM
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https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/11/23/saudi-arabia-poet-sentenced-death-apostasy Do you legit think apostasy doesn't get punished in the middle east? Do you actually think Islam is a religion of peace?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:14 AM
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Literally so triggered because someone misgendered them they end up dying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:13 AM
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Number has been objectively going down, it probably won't be a majority two decades from now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:10 AM
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Did you seriously mention, rich, high-status men to try to convince us that average men aren't struggling lmao. People on this sub are something else, there was another dumbass that said she likes to go for "conventionally unattractive" men like Benedict Cumberbatch and Adam Driver a couple of threads ago lmaooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:09 AM
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Bruh it's not that hard to understand what he meant, the rate of sexless men is going up every year, reaching a record high of 30% for men below 25 in 2018, and it's been hovering around then ever since, it was 4% two decades ago just fyi. It's not a fucking threat, it's a statistical probability that's very likely to happen, do you really want to live in a society where half the men you see have never fucked a girl at the age of 25?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:08 AM
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RP men and men who are reading TRP to eventually become RP men are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:54 PM
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That's because women are privileged now, men don't want to be men if they don't get rewarded for doing so, considering being a man takes a lot of effort and pain, and society is doing the best it can to make it harder and harder by the year.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:52 PM
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What does that even have to do with what I just said
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:50 PM
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I live in Saudi Arabia, the only reason I'm not getting hanged is because they don't know I'm an apostate lmao, fuck off my fear is not irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:44 PM
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islamophobia What's wrong with fearing a religion that explicitly wants to murder me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:24 PM
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Go skydiving since you already paid, don't pay for any of her shit, don't fuck her if you're honorable, fuck her if you don't care about her boyfriend after you skydive, don't speak to her again afterwards.
/r/newTRP28/06/22 10:55 PM
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A little, an ugly chick checking you out is still a complement, a hot chick doing it is gonna stick with me the rest of the day lmao It's like injecting confidence straight into my veins.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:54 AM
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No, but 30% is not a minority you can ignore, that's tens of millions of men walking around without having fucked a girl at the age of 25, that's fucking insane, and the number has been steadily increasing. It'll get much worse in two decades, we will literally have herbivore men like in Japan.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:39 AM
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I would say the younger generations are super westernised.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:36 AM
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Using Latin America as an example of something being "fine" is peak comedy. How about you compare to actual American communities with high rates of single mothers? Like for example the African American community, the members of which represent the majority of criminals per capita lmao in addition to representing the highest rates of high school dropouts. Or you can look at Japan, who are ahead of us on this demographic shift, and how their birth rate is so low that they're experiencing the equiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:32 AM
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Oh so you're just gonna ignore what's happening in Japan, bruh just fucking face it women's standards are gonna end up causing a shit ton of negative externalities both economic and social.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:27 AM
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Paraphrasing Marxist viewpoints I see?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:24 AM
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Because all men also encompasses 40-70 year olds, the generation that grew up without social media, online dating and easy access to pornography, and they're likely dating women who haven't been infected by third wave feminism and an inflated sense of ego. Their struggles are not comparable to ours, in addition they lost their virginity way earlier and were far more sexually active than our generation at the same age.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:22 AM
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Wanting submissive women is literally human nature and has been the status quo until very very recently, or are you implying that your grandma's generation was slaving away to their husbands lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:19 AM
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Ah yes, being indifferent and indirect, totally an Red Pill tactic lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:17 AM
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Less I checked the unemployment rate was at record lows, most men take a fucking shower and get a haircut and have friends. Like 90% of men should fill your criteria but I'm gonna go ahead and take a wild guess and assume they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:14 AM
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It's possible, but then I ask my female friends how some stranger was being creepy and they say and I quote; "he was walking behind me for an uncomfortably long time" lmao At some point your fear stops being reasonable and starts being hysterical, like if you're that fucking terrified of going out in public please internalise your irrational fear and stay indoors for the rest of your life, spare the rest of us from your hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:10 PM
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Women on this sub just reinforce my belief that women in general are immune to rationality and nuance lmao Jesus Christ can you imagine if someone made that analogy about men and I came in here bitching about misandrism, women are insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:07 PM
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Lesbians and bisexual/transexuals. They're literally going through what the average straight male is going through.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:04 PM
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Either they lie or they're completely oblivious of their hyperboles.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:52 PM
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No one's asking you to force yourself on her, but you have to take charge, you should not be asking her for permission, she should be wanting to be with you naturally, you said she froze up like a statue, why don't you ask her why? If it's a mental blockade then at least you know she's just mentally ill and that she's actually in to you. But if it's anything else you run like hell because that girl is not worth your time or energy, let alone your fucking love and devotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:21 AM
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No? Men are much more disciplined and honourable, not just in the sexual market but in life in general. Women are emotional creatures, they tend to make their decisions based off of what they're feeling, which means their promises hinge almost entirely on how they feel. Of course this is a generality, some women are super rational and constant with their decisions, but the majority, especially young attractive women, are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:12 AM
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I don't know how to explain the concept of unconditional love to you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:42 PM
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There's no guarantee that Chad gets her orgasm, she's after him mainly for the status and for the off-chance that she'll rope him in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:07 PM
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Oh Jesus you actually think the wage gap exists lmao https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.csmonitor.com/layout/set/amphtml/Business/Saving-Money/2014/0917/Who-pays-With-money-matters-traditional-gender-roles-stick The NerdWallet study asked more than 1,000 people across the United States who have been living with their partners for at least six months a range of questions regarding attitudes and responsibilities about cash. Despite changing times, old dating customs die hard: 77.4% of people in a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:05 PM
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Millennials completely broke down the family structure, now Gen Zers who are in their early 20s are plagued with absent fathers and abusive mothers. If your dad constantly flaked on you, you will find it normal to flake on men when you grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:54 AM
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Women don't have to provide anything for men, there are a lot of women who maintain relationships for the sake of maintaining relationships even if their S.O literally doesn't care about them. This even happens to high status men, i.e Will Smith
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:51 AM
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Literally just lose weight and you'll have a gym body. Assuming it's true that you've been building on muscle for two years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:35 AM
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J-Cole literally lied about his virginity the first time he had sex. It's completely possible to fake it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:25 AM
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I'm talking about them when they were younger, they were still conventionally unattractive. James Gandolfini is actually a perfect example because he looks like every man's worst case scenario; balding, morbidly fat and ugly face, but due to his charisma, confidence and status, he still lands the hottest women on the show.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:11 AM
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Nah, 95% of men already make the first move, and women still get used for sex all the damn time, so clearly this strategy isn't really as efficient as you think it is. The only thing that works is to a) become relationship material, which for most men would be; no whoring around, no psychopathic tendencies, non-neediness, and emotional maturity, as well as a pretty face, and b) actually seek men who are compatible with you, letting them come to you is just inviting men who know nothing about you…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:02 AM
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Countless opportunities to be pumped and dumped. Then you're asking out the wrong kind of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:44 AM
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It's the sad truth, women are not your friend in the dating market, and you should stop treating them like they're one. At most, you can get away with asking your sister or you mother, they may be the only women in your life who will help you with no ulterior motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:39 AM
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Because ownership of wealth gives an advantage if you actually own the wealth, most of the wealth you're referring to is hoarded by the top 1% of men. Otherwise the average woman is actually likely more wealthy than the average man lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:09 PM
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It's also irrelevant if you're poor, the only thing that really matters is your socioeconomic class in the modern west. We're also talking about revenue, these immigrants work more hours on average, and get better/harder degrees, that has nothing to do with generational wealth, it's just a symptom of their good work ethic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:02 PM
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I don't know, and I don't think this person is aware that pEoPlE oF cOlOuR (Nigerians, Indians, Chinese, etc) outearn white men by a pretty decent amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:52 PM
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We will continue efforts to close the gap, as we’ve had considerable success over the past 150 years. As of 2018, women represent the largest and most powerful economic group in America, they comprise 80% of the total purchasing power of US citizens, in addition to outearning men as a collective post-college graduation. Quit complaining just because some men are able to collect more wealth than any American, you privileged fucks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:49 PM
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Under the Equal Pay Act, it is literally illegal to give women less money than their male counterparts for the same jobs. Read carefully; it's I L L E G A L, meaning if you see an employer doing that, you have the right to go to court, sue them, and win. The gender pay gap, as is assumed by Western feminists; meaning a lower salary for the same job mainly because the position is being held a woman, is an absolute and complete fairytale myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:47 PM
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Women have it easier, male suicide rates, victimisation rates and poverty rates in comparison to women speak for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:41 PM
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His point is that women don't need those degrees to succeed, they literally have a backup plan in the form of settling down with who has to provide. In addition to that, women have institutional advantages in sectors such as college.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:40 PM
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Ah yes, conventionally unattractive men like fucking Adam Driver and Benedict Cumberbatch lmaoooo When you say "conventionally unattractive", I think of celebrities like Joe Pesci or James Gandolfini, not fucking modern day male models who were legit hired by modeling agencies. https://www.thefashionisto.com/photo-shoot/adam-driver-covers-w-magazine-new-royal-to-benicio-del-toro/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:24 PM
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The nuclear family + extended family, ie, uncles, aunts, grandparents, and cousins.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:41 PM
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Donald Trump and Ronald Reagan managed to win the presidency despite having zero political background, what exactly is the problem? If you have money and fame you're pretty much over the two biggest hurdles of winning the presidency. The third biggest would be convincing either party to let you run on their ticket, since there's no chance in hell you're winning independently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:38 PM
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High quality prostitutes usually clean themselves so as to continue to get hired, they also tend to be more careful and adamant on using a condom, otherwise they risk losing a majority of their clientele if they end up catching a disease, and with 99% of them you can request their latest STD check-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:17 PM
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Tbf the way I see it you're going to get called a loser regardless for being inexperienced, so might as well tell society to go fuck itself and do whatever you can to beat everyone at their own game. In less than a year you'll get more pussy than 99% of the assholes who thought you were a loser. And morally speaking? Personally, I paid for a service, the girl is a fully grown adult who made her own life decisions to get here, she can back out of this deal at any time, and you should always be re…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:24 AM
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just buy hookers. This the easiest way out I don't understand why men with any financial capabilities don't just do it. If you consider it a monthly expense (average 320$ for an hour with a high quality, read: no STD hooker) by the end of the year you will have fucked twelve different girls, nobody will be allowed to call you inexperienced lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:06 AM
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Imagine waking up to that https://images.app.goo.gl/dN4Pz7F6LUmDUzAK9 Literally beautiful
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:30 PM
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Overpopulation is not the term I would use for countries with birth rates that are falling below replacement rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:38 PM
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What assumptions are faulty lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:37 PM
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Bruh https://images.app.goo.gl/q6KMJnFRzVR2Yss37
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:28 AM
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Bruh, I'm an 19 year old college student, either these women are lying or serial monogamists are fucking rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:21 AM
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And to preface this, lowering your standards does not necessarily mean dating people you find ugly, it's just dating people who will realistically end up with you or who are your looksmatch. In other words, women's relationship standards are overinflated, men's relationship standards are "I just want a cute one who's not a psycho please".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:10 AM
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Bruh, I'm more excited to meet people's families than people themselves, the family thing is a horrible vetting process lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 11:36 PM
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Do you emphasize with Nazis, Commies, and racists? No, but you understand their ideology and why they would follow it, do you not?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 11:49 AM
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Are you seriously trying to claim that unreported rape exceeds the reported number by like a factor of 10 or something? Cause that's what you need for it to stop becoming rare. Society would fucking collapse if >20% of women were getting raped yearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:57 PM
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Thanks man I'm aware tho, I would complement you too but I literally don't know anything about you lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:16 AM
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But if this is the case why’d you say another average male should imagine never be able to make sexual moves until your mid-thirties? Because it happens lmao, and average people who this doesn't happen to should count themselves lucky, not consider themselves part of the majority, let alone mock others for not being as lucky as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 09:04 PM
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I'mma send you a picture of how I look like, trust me I have no trouble getting women. I hate how people automatically assume you have to be ugly or a shit person to not be accessible lmao, I know plenty of people better looking than me and who have an arguably better personality still struggling out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 12:56 PM
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You need to stop blaming women and work on yourself. Porque no los dos? Yes, why wouldn't they be? Get your life on track before laying all the blame on women. My life is on track, get plenty of sexual attention, don't give a fuck, women as a collective are still to blame in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:51 AM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:34 AM
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Women are just as horny as men though, there's tons of reasons for the imbalance, the main ones I would assume are the population difference and the difference in standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:33 AM
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I'd like to think that only ugly people don't rate themselves on a number scale lmao, but that's just me, I haven't seen you but the fact you refuse to give us an honest rating is very sus. Also, it's not like you're demeaning yourself by giving yourself a number, what does being realistic about your looks have to do with self-respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:29 AM
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Oh my god, sexual and attention seeking creatures feel miserable without both? Truly an enigma to our modern day psychologists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:28 AM
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Why? I ain't OP
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:24 AM
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And probably lying lmao, nobody likes being the chaser
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:23 AM
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I have plenty of social circles, dozens of friends I can call on to hang out whenever I pleased, and the 15 years I spent without a girlfriend were absolutely miserable. Friends work sure, I'm not saying they don't help with the loneliness, but not having any romantic/sexual attention from the other gender at all takes a huge toll on you. Women have plenty of friends just by virtue of being women, and yet go to subs like r/femaleforeveralone, and see what it's like when a woman with friends has …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:09 AM
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Since I was 11 years old, I haven’t received a single catcall, sexual comment, grope, proposition, pick up attempt, grand romantic gesture, exposed erection, or dick pic that I wanted, needed, valued, or appreciated. So you're telling me you never liked any sexual attention from any guy at all? Are you a robot?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:05 AM
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I don't believe that, you don't see Alpha males complaining about the abundant attention they get or their constant objectification by women and men alike. There's clearly only one side with greener grass, and it would make for a healthier discussion if some of the women here were honest about it. We're humans who crave attention, wether you're a man or a woman, so you will absolutely resent not having options regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:03 AM
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female figures in our life, spaces either online or offline which will never make us lonely or invisible after one year. When men tried to do that, they get shunned, pretty much every major male figure has been accused of being a misogynist/threat to society at some point (see: Jordan Peterson and Mark Manson), and online spaces, like the Red Pill, again, shunned, whereas women are perfectly allowed to be misandrist on places like r/AskFeminist and r/TwoXChromosomes with zero consequences. Also,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:00 AM
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female figures in our life, spaces either online or offline which will never make us lonely or invisible after one year. When men tried to do that, they get shunned, pretty much every major male figure has been accused of being a misogynist/threat to society at some point (see: Jordan Peterson and Mark Manson), and online spaces, like the Red Pill, again, shunned, whereas women are perfectly allowed to be misandrist on places like r/AskFeminist and r/TwoXChromosomes with zero consequences. Also,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:00 AM
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Don't, you're gonna regret it, imagine never being able to make any sexual moves until you're mid-thirties because you're just that uninteresting and/or ugly. You will feel miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:54 AM
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Nah, you have no idea the level of damage it does to your self-esteem, you're in complete control of your perceived attractiveness, you can choose to get into a relationship with a decent dude whenever you want, and have sex with your looksmatch whenever you want. You're purposefully starving yourself in a grocery store, whereas men are starving in the empty desert, it is not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:52 AM
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I care about their looks lmao, the people who share my hobbies don't tend to attract me, sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 01:04 PM
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I'm supposed to force myself to like shit I don't like? Yeah no, I don't expect women to fawn over my hobbies neither. The only solution is to fake it, which seems to be pretty damn effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:03 PM
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Most women my age are unlikeable tbf. It's not my fault I'm attracted to people who I rarely vibe with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:09 AM
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Well getting skinny is objectively withing your reach, just put down the fork.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:00 AM
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Bruh, at about the 12% range is when you start having chiseled abs. 8% you're basically in a bodybuilding competition, anything less and you're gonna need to be on constant medical supervision. 18% is just healthy weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:30 AM
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Never put soap on your face. Just moisturize and water. My skin looks clear as hell, and never gotten acne or a bump since I was 16, even when I shave.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:18 AM
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Bruh it doesn't take her three days to send a message to her parents or closest friends, you're just low on the priority list.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 09:40 PM
1

It's even legal in the US: Nevada.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 09:32 PM
4

Well they were usually right, the Black Plague collapsed society, the world wars collapsed societies, the communist revolutions collapsed societies, the fall of Rome collapsed societies. The only reason why we've managed to avoid societal upheaval is due to the popularisation of democracy, the existence of nation states and comforting technology. We're far past schedule for a societal collapse, but inevitably it's gonna happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:43 PM
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We still haven't fully understood the effects of social media, Facebook literally came out only 12 years ago, that is nothing in the field of psychology. I feel like social media will become prohibited or at least age restricted in the future, and we will look at the social media the same way we look at cigarettes now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:39 PM
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Good luck with that, as an average man, really if you can find a unicorn I salute you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:35 PM
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If they aren't then why have they given up. Is that a serious question? Just like people giving up on the dream of becoming a millionaire, that doesn't mean they're happy about it. This comparison doesn't even do it justice, because connection and empathy with another woman is a much more valuable and basic need than getting rich. People who give up on it tend to be resentful and full of misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:34 PM
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She's skinny, that makes her above average, but she's not that hot at all lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:37 PM
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Most young men are in fact either working out and trying to reach women's ridiculous standards or completely checking out. It's in their nature, that does not mean they will be successful and aren't prone to giving up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:37 PM
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We, for one, don't take life and relationship advice from gym bro meatheads I don't know what mystical view you have of Europe, but just like the US it is a continent filled with human beings who are very capable of looking up to gym bro meatheads.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:50 PM
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I can't stand my sister either, I feel like this argument works better when the women are young and in their attractiveness peak, which is why mothers are usually excluded from this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:48 PM
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Is this the same reality where women get mad once you disconnect from them after they reject you because they thought you were their friend? Cause if so it's pretty hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:56 PM
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Because people don't like to have relationships with people who are closed minded, dishonest, immature, childish, and disrespectful. This the blue pill on steroids lmao. Plenty of women date dishonest men only because of their looks and/or status
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:16 AM
4

I disagree about is EQ. Looks/height will get you interest from girls but EQ is what allows you to actually be successful once you're actually talking to and spending time with them in person. How you make a girl feel when she's with you and your ability to appropriately decide when to say/do what socially will dictate whether or not she sticks around. That's only if you're like a 7/10, just on the verge of being Chad-levels hot, attractive but not to the point where the girl will lust over you,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 02:01 PM
11

Definitely. I think on average, women have higher emotional intelligence. Nah, have you seen the way the average young woman reacts to rejection? Or just not getting her ass kissed in general? Good lord Men, by virtue of not getting a free pussy pass by society, are kind of forced to become more emotionally mature, or else shits not gonna fly. With women, for better or for worse, society sort of absolves them of that responsibility, therefore they get it into their heads that acting with the emo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 01:06 PM
3

Most young men groom themselves, telling them to get a haircut or dress better is not the catch-all you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:37 AM
1

No, even Chads have to pursue, women have chads pursuing them they don't really need to do shit. I know I'm attractive since I land 8s and 9s, I know they're attracted to me, but shit man they're never ever gonna make the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:59 PM
1

What exactly is unfair? Women are the ones who risk their life in order to reproduce. Take it up with mother nature if it makes you so angry. Lmao take this shit argument back to the 19th century, the average modern woman is not at risk of dying from pregnancy. The reality is only women get pregnant so only women can have abortions. Nobody contested that, what we're arguing is the fairness of it. Of course a man can’t have a say in it just like he can’t force a woman to get an IUD he can’t force…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:57 PM
0

No, he's only the father if the woman decides to give birth to it, if she decides to abort it suddenly the man has no say in it whatsoever and it's the woman's right completely. Sorry but that is the definition of unfair. You can't just have your cake and eat it too, you want abortion to be under your total control without the man having a say in it? Fine, but then you're also 100% responsible if you give birth to the child, the road goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:29 PM
3

I consider giving financial aid as part of "raising the child", is that really your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:37 PM
5

That's not opting out, what happens if you don't pay child support? You go to prison, what happens if you refuse to go to prison? You get dragged there at gunpoint. That's not a choice now is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:33 PM
0

But she's the one who decided to have a child with a father who doesn't want it, when she could have simply aborted. Her choice, therefore the consequences should fall on her, it's completely fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:28 PM
4

Agreed as long as the man is allowed to opt out of raising a child if it's born since he didn't have a say in that neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:27 PM
0

The fact that she still can decide to abort flies in the face of everything you're saying, the woman has multiple choices, she can have the baby or not have the baby, if the father doesn't want it she can still have the baby and deal with it, it's her choice after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:26 PM
1

You're right, men and women aren't the same, men approach and women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:51 AM
2

Eyeing you up and laughing at your jokes (acting sweet and silly) certainly can be making the first move: that is one way feminine women attract men. That's an invitation for you to make the first move, because as I said before women will never ever make the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:50 AM
3

That's female models, a male's face is much more robust and visible and it's not like you're fooling the jury with a haircut.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 06:24 AM
5

Yeah no, have you seen the entrance exams that male models have to go through, the juries tend to pick the one with the best facial features not the one who hired a stylist before going to the fashion show.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 06:17 AM
3

You either underestimate your looks, your girlfriend's looks, or you don't know what a first move is; I don't consider her eyeing you up or laughing at your jokes as a first move lmao, she has to explicitly prove that she likes you at the very least. It's either that or you got extremely, unbelievably lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 06:15 AM
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The vast majority of young men get haircuts, dress relatively nicely and do some level of physical exercise, women in this age range are not gonna be even remotely impressed by you doing this, let alone impressed enough to actually approach you. What you're proposing is a fantasy, even Chads have to do the approaching because most women simply never approach at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 06:10 AM
5

Are you a woman? Cause even I as a pretty attractive guy who has no issues hooking up with plenty of women, can tell you right now that this is a hell of a unreliable strategy, most women who like you won't ever pursue you because they don't need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 06:08 AM
2

You keep bringing up them being sexist like it matters lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:59 PM
1

Most promiscuous men I know are also sexist, so what gives? Seems like sexism is not really the barrier you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:58 PM
2

I ain't having that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:25 PM
1

It is absolutely one of them lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:51 PM
-1

out of your control. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:46 PM
18

Bruh how many promiscuous guys do you actually know? Cause I can tell you right the people with the highest n count are usually super charming but behind closed doors objectify the shit out of women 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:56 AM
0

He clearly meant that they're maliciously ignorant, not manipulative on purpose, they clearly don't know better, and why should they? Women are the fish, men are the fisherman, why on earth would you to the fish when asking for advice about how to catch them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:30 AM
7

It's delusional to assume that the woman is 100% unattracted to the guy that's abusing her. Something, some desirable quality is luring her, or else her brain would force her into fight or flight as soon as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:26 AM
2

It doesn’t sound like you actually think “both.” When a man is subtle in approaching women, people say that he’s too passive and cowardly to do the work himself. In most cases he is, what you should do is let your attraction known, only be subtle if your goal is to know if she likes you, if she doesn't then move on, if you feel her reciprocating then open up the flood gates.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 08:47 PM
2

Both, you have to be utterly stupid to not understand that she's hitting on you, but women's way of approaching is not an approach at all, it's just an invitation for you to approach them, that comes with the advantage of giving them plausible deniability.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 08:35 PM
1

There's also this other teensie tiny hanging chad that's commonly referred to as the "fear of rejection". Luckily for women, they're free to not experience it, not so much for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 08:32 PM
1

You can not live in fantasy land while still wanting a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 08:10 PM
0

Even worse bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 08:03 PM
2

Legit tho, lots of redditors would go up by a couple of points automatically if they just dress better and get a good haircut. Two things that can be done instantly without much effort (as opposed to losing weight, hitting the gym, getting rich, or becoming charming). Most men are average because they're lazy enough to remain average, which is a good thing otherwise above average men like me would be 100% fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 08:01 PM
7

Objectively the worst thing they can do is publicly humiliate you, the second worse thing is keeping it vague and not giving you a direct answer in the hopes of keeping you as an orbiter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:40 PM
2

I know the same type of guy except he's not a virgin and actually lands a shit ton of women. Most of y'all don't realise that being a misogynist is not a barrier to most women, even the feminist ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:31 PM
4

Considering most men can spot other asshole men a mile away, one has to wonder about the average woman's standards lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:27 PM
12

Because they have no other option usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:23 PM
4

Guess who was making most if not all that money during the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:08 PM
3

Yes, I'm misogynistic, watchu gonna do about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:05 PM
2

Because what? Women are never wrong? Women are not angels buddy, they can ruin a marriage too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:04 PM
4

God forbid someone makes a joke about a "real issue".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:01 PM
1

Not true, many a insurance companies lost billions due to the obesity crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:24 AM
1

If I take a shower my beard will stay on my face, I won't come out of it looking like a different person, cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:46 PM
4

Make-up and beards are incomparable because one is an actual part of your looks while the other is meant to disguise your real look. It's like saying the growing and maintaining eyebrows is the equivalent of doing make-up lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:38 PM
1

Well when in a lot of young lack a father figure that ain't a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:39 PM
2

Based around what? Debating and being nuanced in your takes? Yeah, I would sure hope not, in fact it's a good thing that he's levelheaded to maintain his brand lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:34 PM
4

Yeah, I literally have them as friends but guess what nobody likes to admit to being a degenerate lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:19 PM
2

Yeah no, most celebrities are richer than him and not that calm
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:19 PM
3

I've never seen Peterson publicly freakout woke-style, have you? He's always calm and collected, I don't know what you're on about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 04:24 PM
1

Making assumptions much?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 04:12 PM
4

So I just don't exist, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:53 PM
3

What was confusing in that sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:49 PM
13

There's literally no other point to have an open relationship other than to avoid accusations of disloyalty once you have sex. Me personally, I think open relationships are nice way of saying you're only here for the sex, if y'all truly loved each other you would not willingly allow yourself to hook up with another person, let alone let your SO do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:42 PM
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I think they're far less effective though, considering the self help icons of men really get put through the grinder by feminists; the ones that make it out have to be literally Jordan Peterson-level intellectuals about life in general, and super level headed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:39 PM
1

I don't know if you bothered reading the link but the percentage keeps going up yearly, it was literally 8% less than a decade ago, so clearly the 18 year olds growing up are in fact still not having sex until at least the age of 25, which is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:33 PM
1

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/ But among the 23 percent of adults — or nearly 1 in 4 — who spent the year in a celibate state, a much larger than expected number of them were 20-something men, according to the latest data from the General Social Survey. Nearly a quarter of the population aged 18-29 did not have sex at all in 2018, that's dozens of millions of Americans walking around without ever touching pussy right now…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:25 PM
3

Cool, doesn't really change my point, if all women thought like you we would be in a sexless epidemic, oh wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:19 PM
1

Nah but keep making assumptions. Y'alls argumentative capacity doesn't go any further lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:09 PM
2

Go ahead and become ripped and go to the gym almost daily for two hours at a minimum. Oh and make sure you have a stable income because it's not like I'm gonna pay for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:34 AM
1

I have yet to find a young woman that I find attractive that hasn't ridden the cock carousel and isn't batshit crazy/just an asshole. Settling down is easy if you lower your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:29 AM
1

Most of those marriages are unhappy, and the risk of divorce is far too big. Plus if you only account for the younger generations 18-39, first marriages only happen to a minority of men now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:26 AM
2

Why is it that you have never once attributed blame to women as a collective in this entire thread? Like seriously there's no way men are responsible for all the statistical discrepancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:23 AM
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I mean the fact that women find 80% of men below average is very real and not a delusion, it's literally a statistical fact. What's delusional is thinking the average woman in the US today has reasonable expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:20 AM
3

Anorexia (an-o-REK-see-uh) nervosa — often simply called anorexia — is an eating disorder characterized by an abnormally low body weight, an intense fear of gaining weight and a distorted perception of weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:07 AM
3

What does that have to do with weight loss? Anorexia implies he's already skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:22 AM
0

So is she supposed to under-eat when she works 10 hours a day? Lmao thank you for admitting that she just finds it inconvenient to lose weight, and not impossible, yes that's what you should do, I started my own company, went to the gym, and studied in uni while I lost my weight, no excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 07:22 AM
1

You don't need to be an expert to understand calories in, calories out, you just admitted that your mom is eating at maintenance level, yeah no shit she's not losing weight, nobody has ever lost weight while eating at maintenance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:39 AM
2

Calories in, calories out does not always work. Yea it fucking does, there is no body on earth that runs on spontaneously materialised energy, the energy will always be syphoned from your fat or muscle stores if you don't eat enough calories to supplement them, this is literally basic physics and no hormone-affecting disease can affect this process without killing the person or turning them into a walking nuclear reactor. And sometimes the body sends chemical signals in the form of cortisols tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:37 AM
1

Caloric restriction for anybody will feel exhausting my man, your mom isn't unique in feeling like shit if she starts a weight loss journey. What I have a problem with is you saying she can't lose weight, she absolutely can, she finds it too inconvenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:33 AM
1

Ask her to measure her calories and then ask her doctor to check her maintenance level. If her body is not losing weight after having her caloric consumption>maintenance levels then please ask her to donate her body to science since she's the only human ever recorded that can materialize energy out of nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 10:33 PM
2

Answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:24 PM
7

Loneliness rates have increased, and sexual activity has decreased amongst the youngest generations, with both being true then the number of non-married/married couples remaining the same would be very out of place.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:50 PM
2

Are you aware of the laws of thermodynamics? Do these diseases break them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:48 PM
9

There is no reason to doubt that that number didn't go down too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:40 PM
29

Sounds good on paper, what ends up happening is that he took what he could get this week and moved on to another girl the next week lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:39 PM
1

What do you mean "healthy food", eating healthy is not what matters, it's eating less, your mom can gorge on 2000 calories worth of veggies and lean meat, while technically she's eating healthy she's still not gonna lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:25 PM
1

Medical conditions defy the laws of thermodynamics now? You will lose weight if you eat less than you burn, ain't no disease that doesn't kill you can stop that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:24 PM
1

No, what makes you fat is the calories you willingly choose to eat, unless if you're implying that they're eating 2000 calories worth of meds lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:22 PM
5

There is no uncontrollable health problem that defies the laws of thermodynamics. You can throw the most obese-prone fatty in a concentration camp and he'll still come out looking rail thin by the end of it. People are just lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:21 PM
5

Just put down the fork lmao, you think men don't struggle when losing weight? I literally burn more calories than you but that's because my body is stronger than yours and needs more of them to function. I felt miserable the entire time yet still did it anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:19 PM
1

Do you agree that the girl in the picture has a lot more fat than Kim Kardashian?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:16 PM
1

People tend to laugh, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:14 PM
1

She's very very very slightly overweight, and she hits the gym, she's not overweight at the level of the girl in the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 02:23 PM
2

Platonic friendships between genders will never work without both "friends" being taken or considering each other ugly. Anyone telling you otherwise is lying to you, there's always one party that's miserable because they can't evolve their friendship into a relationship if one of them is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 12:48 PM
2

I know but it's pretty funny lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:56 AM
1

Why do you care? These women are psychos, you should thank them for rejecting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:53 AM
4

My biggest problem is that my humour is incompatible with most women. I'm a fan of dark offensive humour, which is super rare amongst women (although I've met women who liked it a lot and were pretty attractive too), but for guys it's not a problem at all lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:39 AM
1

The average is the bar + 20 pounds, most guys haven't even lifted the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:47 AM
2

Cause it might reveal their identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:41 AM
2

Well I'm literally a Chad and I have to say it's super rare when I talk positively about the women I know behind their backs lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:03 PM
1

They have the option to make the other person leave though
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:47 PM
1

Which sex do you think is more capable of being forgiven by society? Like women have damn near zero incentive to take personal responsibility for anything, they can hit a man and get away with it, cheat on a man and take his money in divorce courts, spread rumours and people would believe them without question, sexually harass men and get away with it, etc, etc. This is not the case for men, therefore men are more likely to be personally responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:37 PM
3

Y'all have no idea huh? This is tame compared to some of the shit I heard from the chads I know in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:23 PM
0

You can survive on poisonous food, you can't survive on nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:17 PM
1

I mean the stats don't lie, women cheat just as much if not more than men, so I doubt they care about companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:17 PM
1

But why do that when you continually get it from different sources?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 06:48 PM
2

Bruh first off she's very overweight, which automatically puts her at 5 at best, and second off her face is completely unattractive. So a 3-4 is adequate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 06:32 PM
12

The strawmanniest of the strawmen
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 11:43 PM
5

Y'all dig your own graves lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 03:12 PM
2

It doesn't matter if you see it as a strength, 90% of women out there will not see it as a strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:57 AM
3

Most men pay for dates, it's fucking retarded that you would use that as a metric when it has 0 correlation with how "good" a man is. You do realise that no man wants to pay because he likes it, right? He pays because he wants to fuck you and he knows it's part of your stupid vetting process, he's doing it begrudgingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:46 AM
3

Uh huh, if you don't like it you can leave and find a better a man, nobody's forcing you to stay in a relationship or live in the same house as a man that you're incompatible with. And if you chose to have kids with this man, that's your fucking decision, and therefore your fucking problem. The main problem with feminists who keep bringing up the patriarchy boogeyman is that they literally assume women have no agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:52 PM
3

Please tell me just what the fuck is the "patriarchal expectation"? Tell me exactly how western society in 2022 is forcing women to take care of most of the domestic work against their will.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:49 PM
5

Basically for all the sane people reading; it's easy to score points with entitled women by just paying for the dates, it's horribly sexist, but such is life if you wanna deal with women on the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:47 PM
4

Women aren't forced to get married or have babies, those are life choices. Or do you want a woman with a child to get paid the same as a man despite working less hours? Cause that would be considered sexist and thus illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:46 PM
1

From what I hear from my friends: that's considered "being too woke" in programming spaces. If you can't handle the sex talk...just walk away. Or maybe you are just too fragile. We weren't talking about work anyway? Why are you here? Just go do your own shit. If I'm having a conversation with a friend at work, who the fuck asked you to get offended and throw a fit? In the real world, most people shut the fuck up because it's not their problem, and rightfully so.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:42 PM
1

Nah it wasn't lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:40 PM
26

Bruh I get interrupted all the time too, I don't use it as an excuse to avoid doing the hard work it takes to succeed in a STEM field. Y'all have literally every advantage in life but you bitch and moan about stupid, petty shit and hold yourself back in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:37 PM
23

Because it's likely that it will, this has nothing to do with nihilism or morbidity, it's statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:02 PM
3

Bullshit, if your crush approached you you would not hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 11:32 AM
2

This my friends, is why the red pill is the way to go
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 11:24 AM
1

That's the difference between the left and the right. The right wants to control how private business run. The left wants to maintain private business are allowed to control themselves. Jesus H Christ, this is why economics need to be taught in high school, because some absolute dumbasses will grow up believing this is how it works lmao Leftist economic beliefs range from Keynesian economics and the welfare state through industrial democracy and the social market to the nationalization of the ec…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:27 AM
1

These people are beyond saving, they read George Orwell and think he wrote a guidebook.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:24 AM
2

Because I can tell you with 100% certainty that Arab women and women from other traditional cultures expect a man to provide financially and commit legally before sex occurs. Financial commitment is not a requirement no, that's moreso the family of the girl's requirement, but marriage is. And premarital sex is only heavily discouraged among the older generations in super conservative countries like the Arabian Peninsula. Assuming you're talking about Arab women living in the West, the first poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:16 AM
5

it just needs some socialist tweaking to really shine Nothing's socialist about these countries, workers don't own the means of production.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:16 PM
3

Margaret Thatcher or Hillary Clinton, take your pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:14 PM
1

Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:13 PM
1

How can it be straight yet frizzy in the morning? That can only happen if the hair is naturally very very wavy/curly and she blow dried it or brushed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:04 PM
1

You know if free speech isn't controlled your people are going to do bad stuff. Right, right, and war is peace and ignorance is strength, keep going.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:39 PM
1

I'm not conservative but that's not gonna stop you from making assumptions lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:38 PM
1

That's not even true lmao, I know plenty of Arab women who aren't like that despite living in the West for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:37 PM
1

Yes lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:36 PM
7

I see waaaaaaay more bad coming from this fetishization of free speech than good. It's not aUtHoRiTaRiAn to not want neo nazis to recruit kids on minecraft. Bruh your self awareness is lacking, the enforcement or advocacy of strict obedience to authority at the expense of personal freedom. Appealing to content moderation is doing just that. Call a spade a spade. Why are you so intent on not allowing any sort of moderation on any website? Is that really the internet you want? Does every place hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:30 PM
1

Also a different culture, women in Eastern Europe for example are not as prone to the feminist entitlement you see in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 11:04 AM
1

You just fried my brain with that racism accusation. As if all Western women are one skin colour.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 11:03 AM
5

The new funny term for me is LGTV lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:58 AM
0

No cap though one of my female friends legit cried because she got rejected. It was hard to sympathise to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:57 AM
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The most first world of first word problems. Couldn't care less if my problems don't compare to the starving African child tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:40 AM
2

like she stuck a fork into the 110v socket next to the bed. That means she's straightening curly hair? What a waste.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:31 AM
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How is it impossible? We know that happened with r/incels. If it were impossible, we wouldnt. Because innocent before proven guilty, we have no evidence that it happened with TRP, therefore they are presumed innocent. And for the record, your reason about islam is no different when applied to christianity. I don't care about your whataboutism, my argument still applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:21 AM
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Free speech, by definition does not just apply to the government; the right to express any opinions without censorship or restraint. That's the actual definition. If we follow your definition of free speech, then LGBT people getting banned from private spaces, ostracized and verbally assaulted in the middle east for expressing themselves would not be considered a violation of free speech because technically it's not the government doing it. It’s all subjective. If you think it's all subjective t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:19 AM
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Has there been an r/Islam user who killed people because their views were validated by the sub? Let's just ignore the gaping hole in your logic which is that it's clearly impossible to prove that somebody got motivated to kill due to r/TRP, why does it matter if somebody got murdered specifically because of the subreddit's content? r/Islam harbours and supports a religion that caused the deaths of millions, by virtue of its existence it is validating the belief of thousands of terrorists. Also h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:02 AM
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Twitter doesn't owe me anything, my basic rights were given to me at birth, the government has chosen to respect them whereas Twitter has chosen to violate them, therefore they do not have free speech on their platform. Simple as. And I absolutely have the right to criticize them until they reverse their Orwellian censorship policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:52 AM
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But here’s the problem, private companies can do wtf they want with the platforms they developed and the information stored on their servers. I'll bite, but before that let's see if you're consistent with your reasoning, do you think it's free speech if the company censors LGBT and BLM content?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:49 AM
5

God how westerners have fallen
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:47 AM
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Ah, you're one of those idiots who thinks a company's agency supercedes your human rights. News flash, free speech does not end at the government's doorstep, it applies to every entity, especially powerful megacorps that control 99% of the flow of information.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:46 AM
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Man, I can't wait until Elon buys Reddit and you censorship-happy capitalist bootlickers collectively lose your shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:43 AM
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I'd like for you to guess the net worth of the owners of twitters (before Musk bought it) and Reddit. You clearly have no problems with billionaires banning people because their feelings got hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:41 AM
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Also free speech doesn't apply to social media, it has never has. It did back when the founders of Reddit and Twitter believed in free speech. The current state of content moderation should be reverted, and currently the only person soimr that is Elon Musk, so I don't really give a shit how "out of touch" he is, old school in this case is better than new school.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:39 AM
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Lmao fuck off, Jordan Peterson legit helped me stop being a loser, what gives you the right to mock the way people better themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:06 AM
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For starters I wouldn't date anyone that drinks alcohol (even casually) or smokes anything. Are you Muslim or something, that's like saying you wouldn't date someone who eats candy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:40 PM
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It's not shady, I'm just following her logic, she thinks getting married is a proof of commitment since the person "invests" in her and he pays if he divorces, therefore a marriage prenup should be, again if we follow her logic, "shady".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:35 PM
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Ah the truth comes out, you want him to put his money where his mouth is? Why don't you go ahead and write in your prenup that you'll share 50% of your assets (or your parents if you don't have any) in case of a breakup. The number of women wishing for marriage would fucking collapse if this was actually enforced.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:30 PM
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Doesn't getting a prenup just prove that he doesn't trust you anyways, if we follow you logic; that signing a marriage contract is a proof of commitment, then getting a prenup should be just as "shady".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:29 PM
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Y'all need to understand that marriage is not a gift, it's a risk to take for men. Why would any rational actor take a risk with a near 50% chance of failure?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:28 PM
0

Mark Manson has slept with hundreds of women and he literally endorsed the red-pill. Clearly you haven't caught up on TRP, when it comes to LTR the red-pill does not prioritise looks. Correction: it’s formed by men who SAY they’re experienced. They provide little evidence of that. Not everything on the internet is fake, in any case, redpills advice is fundamentally incompatible with incelism, it is based on taking personal responsibility and understanding the true nature of women in order to per…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:32 AM
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Or virgins tend to wait for sure, but they're so rare anywyss
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:25 AM
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Misleading statistic, only 30% of men's children survived, that does not mean that only 30% of men had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:23 AM
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Red pill was founded by experienced men and its biggest icons (Mark Manson) are definitely not incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:12 AM
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You want expensive energy and small cars? Ah, good old annoying ass EU
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:11 AM
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5 weeks for sex is too long, most of the women I dated would not wait more than a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:05 AM
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Look up the definitions of the words you're using lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 11:53 AM
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Bruh are women children or can they not ethically consent? If they can then they can say no, as long as you're not using threats then you're not coercing them, simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:10 AM
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Oh so simply convincing a girl (or guy) through words to have sex is now coercion, got it. The delusion finally came through, please look up the definition of coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:47 AM
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What actions can be construed as applying pressure or coercion?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:16 PM
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Less dense responses please, what actions define coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:49 PM
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Bruh you just switched words, define pressuring
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:08 PM
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Define coercion Because a lot of women seem to think that both parties drinking and having sex or the guy talking the girl into having sex is now "coercion".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:31 AM
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Your study is flawed in that it deliberately misleads the men and women being surveyed with trick questions, nowhere does it actually use the legal definition of rape (forceful penetration without consent) when asking these men about it. Even your own study highlights this, and adds that replicating this study would be difficult if not impossible. But of course, an article from a website called "thinkprogress.org" decided to run with the most blatantly inflammatory conclusion as always.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:30 AM
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Monks and priests, well known for being mentally stable functioning members of society
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:24 AM
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Because the number of average women getting hot men is way higher than the number of average men getting hot women, it's not really rocket science that the dating market is unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:23 AM
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I didn't say it's reasonable, I said it's doable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:10 PM
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Did you even read the part where I said the idea was trash
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:59 PM
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according to a telephone survey Lmao 125$ is about one-tenth of 1000$, one-twenteith if both couples are paying, and 0/20 if the government subsidised it as part of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:51 PM
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A DEXA scan is 125$, and can be included as part of the multitude of marriage benefits sponsored by the government. You seriously telling me that it's too costly for the average married household? Also, Olympic athletes get a DEXA scan, it's pretty damn accurate. The idea is complete trash but it's not hard to enforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:31 PM
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Tbf getting fat (and eating unhealthy/not working out) is the biggest reason why you look like shit the older you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:28 PM
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I don't like the proposition but seriously it's not that hard to implement, have a doctor measure your body fat percentage every year, there, problem solved. Losing a leg does not factor into your body fat, did you seriously think that's what's wrong with this idea lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:25 PM
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Ultrabased
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:24 PM
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a gay acquaintance of mine announced that his n-count was around 3000. I'm not sure there are that many gay people in a city/town that he can fuck without all of them knowing who he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:17 PM
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But in OP's hypothetical the women take up the role of the man in the dating market, forcing them to act like men when it comes to looking for partners, so the dynamics are not that different.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:15 PM
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Be careful with the last paragraph there or the blue pillers will accuse you of wanting women to go back to being slaves. Truth is in a post-feminist society a woman has no incentive to control herself, considering their actions rarely have social consequences (because men want to fuck them and are too scared to call them out, and because other women want to empower them), the end result is that women in general, especially when they're young, literally behave like grown up children in adult bod…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:13 PM
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Ah you thought meant that girls do that because they're consciously scared of getting pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 06:08 AM
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It's not that we don't know, it's that the risk of rejection is too great to bother, and you don't want to get serially rejected by people in your social circle. (Fear of rejection is not something totally irrational you know?)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:54 PM
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3-5 men get women all the time with humor and confidence. Lmaoooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:45 PM
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This would make sense if we were in the 1900s. Do you really think the average western woman below the age of 25 gives a fuck about risking pregnancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:40 PM
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it has nothing to do with men being desperate but with supply and demand, there is a rather large supply of sperm and thus less demand for it, there is a much smaller and rather fixed amount of eggs and thus more demand for them. There's an equal amount of men and women, where do you think this tilt in supply in favour of women comes from? Nobody demands for eggs and sperms, people demand for hot and personable mates. It's just so happens that due to men's high sex drive and lack of attention, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:39 PM
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Going through a process to make him legally next of kin when we can just… get married… is unnecessary. Like if we’re going to be together forever why doesn’t he want to legally bind us together? That’s shady af. Why does he need an out? The point is til death do us part. Nice naïve end point right there, 41% of all first marriages in the US end in divorce. Would you be comfortable going into a casino and gambling half your assets (including your house, your cars, your savings) in a game that car…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 04:07 PM
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You're right, but women can accuse men of sexually harassing them, being creepy, etc. So while it's not the exact same kind of attention, it holds the same amount of danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 12:18 PM
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Women don't truly get how isolated and lonely the average man is lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 12:06 PM
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Alpha men who the get the same attention a regular woman does don't seem to want to go back to not receiving attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 12:01 PM
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I want my future husband to be legally considered next of kin in the event of an accident. I want him and I to be able to pool our benefits for our future kids. And I sure as shit would never have kids with someone I wasn’t married to. You can do all that without a marriage contract in case you didn't know. If he can’t even sign a piece of paper saying he wants to be with me for the rest of his life, then how can I trust that he wants to build his life with me the same way I want to build my lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 11:24 PM
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If we end up in a situation where she leaves because there isn't a piece of paper signed by the government saying that we're married then that next step in our relationship was never about actually advancing or maintaining the relationship, it was just about her securing herself financially (at least that's the only rational proposition). If we would still live together, still have a wedding ceremony, a ring and everything, but just not have it officially licensed by the government, then there's…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 06:05 PM
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Why do I have to fucking sign a contract for her to stay with me? Is she only with me for my money or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 05:56 PM
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I don't it's healthy to take a risk that has a 50% chance of failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 05:30 PM
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Be careful though cause if you share the same address for a long time the government will declare you unofficially married under common law.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 05:20 PM
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But I didn't? In this scenario it ain't even my fucking kid. Even if it was, abstaining from sex is a retarded ass solution that goes against our very own biological instinct, it's not a reasonable take. It's also discriminatory since the law allows women to have as much sex as they want consequence free.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 04:03 PM
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TRP doesn’t understand how women want to be treated. That was the original point I was making. They think women want to be treated like crap because they see women dating guys who treat them like crap. I already told you that TRP perfectly understands this, but it also tells guys that being an asshole is a viable solution, meaning it's far better than being a Nice Guy™. I think you misunderstand, assholeness can be defined as being "confident", "brash", "narcissistic", "selfish", and "uncaring",…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 04:02 PM
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Yes, it is, I didn't ask for this shit, why am I responsible? Fuck that kid, literally not my problem, but the state is forcing it to be my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 03:48 PM
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The concept behind marriage is sound, the legal enforcement of it is horrible and frankly veering on dystopian.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 03:46 PM
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Solution is to never get married legally then, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 03:38 PM
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TRP does not say that, TRP says to treat women how they truly want to be treated, which is not by being Mr.Nice Guy, often times being an asshole to women is a good way to accomplish this if your goal is purely to fuck. But TRP also says that being non-needy and decisive is a valid tactic for weeding out poor quality women (see: Models for reference, written by an author who endorsed TRP).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 10:56 PM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 04:06 PM
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Some do yes, but over half blamed their partners so when you say most of the time it's not the partner's fault, I doubt that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 01:20 PM
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When I say preplanned, I mean actively sought after and the man is consciously spending time and effort looking for someone when he's in a relationship, which only uncaring psychopaths do. Most men (and women) cheat spontaneously, it happens unexpectedly without the man really looking for it. It's only afterwards that they try to figure out a way to hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 01:15 PM
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OP literally quoted statistics that disprove exactly what you just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 01:06 PM
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Usually they do so after they cheat, the action of cheating is not exactly preplanned.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 01:06 PM
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This is one hell of a naive take, both men and women need to be placated/coddled/have their needs taken care of in a relationship, if you completely ignore men's sexual needs then don't be surprised when they cheat on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 11:47 AM
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Cheating cannot be excused but it has its reasons, it's not like it occurred in a vacuum where the woman he was in a relationship didn't exist. And no, that answer of yours is a very blue-pilled "fuck men" type of answer, if the man was sexually satisfied the likelihood of him cheating drops significantly, by a factor of 2 in fact, so women have their part to play in their man cheating on them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 11:45 AM
0

Have you ever seen Kylie Jenner?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 11:32 AM
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Except that wasn't the excuse the Nazis used to commit the Holocaust, just like OP said, the Nazis did in fact overcorrect for a very small minority of Jews who did in fact do the things that the Nazis accused them of doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 04:30 PM
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Most people, as you can see in marriage data, settle with people closer to their age. And the overwhelming majority of marriages happen when people are above the age of 25, high value men will not only ever settle for women who haven't hit the wall, but they are nevertheless very likely to do so. Besides, who's talking about settling? These HVM are definitely gonna pump and dump the young bimbos lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 08:03 PM
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Good for you my man, but unfortunately your opinion is that of the minority, and I say this sincerely, as I wish more people thought like you. The looks thing is just objectively false though, statistically speaking the most sought after and sexualised female age group is the one between 18-25 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 07:55 PM
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Do you agree that a woman's beauty gives her innate value? Do you also agree that a woman's looks fades with time? If you say yes to both, then you're literally contradicting yourself, and objectively speaking, the women do in fact become lower (not low) value as they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 07:47 PM
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How is culture responding/reflecting appropriately Lmao, you can literally excuse Nazi Germany with this line of reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 03:06 PM
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Truly, if popular opinion was always the moral one then I'm sure you have no problems with how LGBT people have been similarly silenced and ostracized in the Middle-East, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 03:03 PM
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Maybe you weren't born during the Islamophobia period in US history. There is scrutiny and criticisms towards muslim people for their religion, the severity of that scrutiny ranges from condemnation to murder depending on the country. Also some muslims do actively renounce islamoc terrorists. Islamophobia is a retarded ass term, as an atheist, how the fuck is it irrational of me to be scared of a religion that literally wants to murder me and that explicitly instructs its followers to ruin my li…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 03:00 PM
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I'm a libertarian and I can tell you right now that a free platform where people can say whatever they want is far superior to a platform that's moderated by biased mods/admins. I don't trust the authority figures to know what the fuck they're doing. Also, you make the claim that moderated platforms are not cesspools of hate and bullying, have you ever been on Twitter or r/politics lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 02:48 PM
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Any platform built on free speech inevitably turns towards the right It's fucking depressing that the left no longer supports free speech, it used to be them fighting the righties to try to abolish blasphemy laws, but now they literally have their own versions disguised as "hate speech laws".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 02:45 PM
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They do lose their innate value by the age of 40 or so (who the fuck says 25?)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 11:02 AM
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I know I'm gonna get crucified for this but I think Rihanna is a 7/10 at the most, ASAP is a way better catch
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 11:00 AM
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Isn’t it crazy how one of the most enjoyable acts in life can have some of the most negative impacts on an individual’s well-being? That's the case with everything, including for example food and video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 06:16 PM
2

There are situations when you can explicitly say it, but you have to be hot as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 06:10 PM
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You have to be hot as fuck to get a girl at a club, luckily for me I'm hot lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 05:51 PM
2

What you just said also applies for women, when you control for entertainment factors it doesn't really explain the massive discrepancy since women don't seem to be getting any less valuable in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 02:01 PM
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The current scientific consensus is that men's sex drive is more frequently activated and at higher levels than women's sex drives mainly thanks to higher T levels, absolutely zero studies have concluded that psychological conditioning is the main cause behind women's low sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:51 AM
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What you should be doing is limiting it to people aged 20-25, and thus the people who are currently in the dating market and the age of most people on this sub. Unsurprisingly, once you consider only this age group, the 80/20 rule ends up ringing true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 02:25 PM
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OP is responding to everybody but she keeps ignoring people bringing this up lmao Just another delusional blue piller
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 02:23 PM
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University sure isn’t teaching that. Some tutors are, I know my psychology and anthropology teachers did. The only popular teacher who actually tackles these issues in a reasonable manner is Jordan Peterson back when he was in UoT.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 01:34 PM
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Emma Watson is also noticeably skinnier and I don't think she's even hit the wall yet
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 12:49 AM
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Europe was even worse off lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:23 PM
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Even for the majority of urban white folk, most people weren't rich or upper middle class, but people today seem to think the average boomer could afford two cars and a house, while feeding a family of 4 on an average salary lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:45 PM
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And a mail man could afford a family of 5 and buy a house on one income. Ya I'll take that pls, even willing to go to war for it. So you'll take a fantasy? Because that never happened. Average salary was 5600$/year. Average mailman made about 1/5th of that. https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uiug.30112113391301&view=1up&seq=398
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:44 PM
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TRP also tells men to improve themselves though, it just doesn't sugarcoat the reality of dealing with women on the dating market, which tends to paint a very negative picture of women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:23 PM
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Ah yes, the famed 60s, back when men were getting drafted in the Vietnam War, the blacks were juuuuust finally receiving their equal rights, misogyny was at an all time high, the national poverty rate was 22.1% and we lived under an omnipresent threat of nuclear war. What a time to be alive lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 10:55 AM
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I think if men collectively stopped simping the women would die from a lack of attention lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 10:05 AM
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1- Not necessarily, I've had friends hire lawyers over this type of shit and courts will definitely not always side with the girl. 2- I was literally stating a fact but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 09:57 AM
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If both parties get willingly drunk I ain't even putting it in the same planet as rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:07 AM
1

Ever heard of hookers or drunk frat parties lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:55 AM
2

Yep literally, women's standards fucking collapse when drunk
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:54 AM
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They're getting showered with attention by other men and have less incentive to maintain loyalty, meaning the threshold for fucking up is much lower for men than it is for women. Put simply, a woman can be a complete asshole and still maintain her male friendships because of the abundance mentality, this dynamic can exist in men-to-men friendships as well but for some reason only women choose to exploit it en masse. The only way to get through this as a male is to simply raise your standards on …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 09:35 PM
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Be more selective if you're scared, but if you go around sleeping with abusive assholes and then cry to the public when you're inevitably assaulted then I really don't have any sympathy for your lack of screening capabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 09:29 PM
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I don't in fact, carefully pick my male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 09:27 PM
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Didn't you in a previous comment implicate that it was my fault that I went into friendships with women expecting it to be similar to befriending men? Yep, here's the comment in question Like I said you’ve chosen poorly in the women department. You’re also expecting friendship with women to be just like friendship with men, and that’s a faulty assumption. Women tend to do lots of acts of service for each other that men reserve only for relationships Why are only men expected to conform to satisf…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:59 PM
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Oh shit looks like your ONE STUDY isn’t conclusive, oh no, oh jeez. How embarrassing for you Lmao, did you just skim read through the parts where they said that the previous studies done on the bystander effect which concluded that it is heavily present are also unreliable? Oh damn they said in the article you posted that there’s a lack of evidence to topple the bystander effect, aw shit Bruh, way to not read their methodology I guess? This is the first bystander effect study that actually uses …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:01 PM
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https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/if_youre_in_danger_will_bystanders_help Most recently, researchers from the U.K.’s Lancaster University, the University of Copenhagen, and elsewhere captured a series of real-life conflicts on surveillance cameras and found that at least one person in the vicinity came forward to help about 90 percent of the time. The more people who were observing a conflict, the better the chances were that someone from the crowd would step in. Got anything else to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:49 PM
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Did you not open the link showing US government stats of the bystander effect that I sent?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:46 PM
3

Reality statistically disagrees with your assertion
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:43 PM
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I've seen plenty of videos where a woman getting her shit rocked by a guy gets defended by dozens of other guys. Bystander effect diminishes greatly if the gender being assaulted is female
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:16 PM
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It is unfair, and they should be more wary, what the fuck are you even saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:13 PM
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Thing is with women, I do things, they don't do anything back, with men I do things and they're over the moon excited to repay the favor with something else. Plus, with male friends I don't have to do something to maintain the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:11 PM
1

I call bullshit, in America if somebody is just beating on a random woman in a crowded street he's gonna get his ass kicked
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:10 PM
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Lmao most women don't even put near that amount of effort to guarantee their security, you have no idea how many women agree to go to a guy's apartment on the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:09 PM
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It doesn't really matter, it's just annoying plus it'll disappear with time anyways, thanks for the reply though
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:08 PM
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Go make yourself some ugly friends then. Nah, my solution is to befriend older women, they tend to be less retarded and entitled. Or just stick to family members, cousins and such. Bold of you to assume that ugly women don't have a sense of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 03:17 PM
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Did you not read the examples I gave in my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 03:14 PM
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What I meant was I need to provide her with something valuable to maintain the friendship, as opposed to simply existing like with most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:50 PM
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Women don't have to carry a weapon to steer clear of men they find creepy. You're right they don't, but the particular woman above seems to fear for her life every time she goes on a date lmao The problem men seem to have is being labelled as creepy. And big whoop. From a woman's perspective, she has nothing to lose by avoiding creepy men whereas giving them the benefit of the doubt could be a huge risk. I don't disagree, what I find disturbing is how powerful the label is even if it doesn't app…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:41 PM
1

I'll state that the women who exhibit these traits the most tend to be relatively attractive...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:38 PM
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Lmao you are literally proving OP's point, if you have an irrational fear of being assaulted while you're on a date surrounded by white knights in a very public space, then feel free to arm yourself. If however you are scared rationally of being assaulted once you're in a relationship, then the onus is on you for picking (and staying) with a shitty partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:36 PM
2

That's not a female friend, that's a female prospect that you befriended temporarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:27 PM
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But what if I don't have those problems with my male friends? Why is it that the pattern keeps repeating itself everytime I befriend a woman my age, but not with men? Truly, the only women I can get with that don't treat me like shit are family members, girlfriends, and 25+ older women. The general flakiness of my generation of women is sooo goddamn annoying and disrespectful
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:26 PM
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I don't think so? I've never had these problems with 90% of my male friends, the majority of my friendship issues stem from all my female friends plus a few token men who act like entitled assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:24 PM
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For anyone reading this exchange, this is a beautiful opportunity to teach you guys to always ask the fishermen for advice and not the fish, cause as we've seen here the fish are clearly ignorant as all hell as to how any of this shit works.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:23 PM
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I have a sister, trust me I know how long it takes, basic bodily grooming + putting on make-up does not compare to basic bodily grooming + going to the gym + working a job, which is the bare minimum requirement to get your foot in the door with someone you find attractive in today's dating market. The really attractive ones get expensive fillers/sauna treatments and an array of other things you have no clue about. Lmao, what the fuck are you talking about? I've dated 9/10s, they absolutely don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 01:56 PM
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Seeking sexual validation is not normal? Okay you monk
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 12:42 PM
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I resent the implication that it's "obvious", clearly most men here only seem to complain without really doing anything about their situation. Lol @ being accused of being a neckbeard, such is the nature of outwardly expressing red-pill mentalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 11:06 AM
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Women can think whatever they want about red pilled men, the truth is the 20% of men they're gunning for are all red pilled anyways lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 11:03 AM
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It’s hard to make female friends. If I held both genders to the same standard I would drop too many of my female friends and that would just hurt me. Look having flakey female friends is better than having no female friends. So i think you should reconsider that part of your advice, I think the right thing to do is give them how much priority they give you. I'll be honest with you, I've actively stopped making female friends since I was 16 or something, whenever I would talk with a woman and we …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 11:01 AM
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Oh we understand, even in this men-centric sphere there's a term called "the wall" for wgemt women start losing their inherent value by their mid-thirties. This is also the most effective time period to start dating these women, since they usually have been coasting on their beauty most of their lives and suddenly need a man to help them "survive" as you said, as a result they will usually settle for a "lesser" (read: a more realistic) match.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 10:47 AM
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But you need to realise that women’s efforts and investments happen outside of dating (ie she comes into dating already having made her investment). If a woman spends a considerable amount of time and money on getting herself ready for the date (this is normally a much bigger investment than most men will make - not good or bad, just how it is), Completely disagree, putting on makeup or spending the time to buy a well fitting dress is not something that takes more time or more mental/physical ef…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 10:44 AM
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So you're scared to the point of writing off dates as inherently dangerous but you're unwilling to protect yourself? Either check out from the dating market, arm yourself to mitigate your irrational fear, or stop complaining lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 10:40 AM
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What the fuck else are you supposed to do? Again, the three options you have are to get over it and keep working, leave the game, or hire hookers. You have the right to complain, but if that's all you're gonna do then you might as well give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 10:36 AM
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Excuse me, I sir behind the wheel of a car all day blasting Don toliver thank you very much
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 10:25 AM
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Self growth to impress women is a valid motivation, plus it has a biological precedent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 01:31 AM
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Damn that's actually an accurate representation, I'm proud of that ngl
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 12:54 AM
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Well that was a totally useless comment, I just need to remind you that most "alpha" males in real life follow the red pill even if they don't know what the term "red pill" actually means. You have yet to tell me what specific characteristics of the red pill enable simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 12:50 AM
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How is it not winning? You are improving yourself, even when you lose, you win, it beats being a blue pill and actually simping for women expecting something in return, or a black pill and cowardly stagnating because you refuse to care. Plus, end-stage red pillers are super unlikely to only get crumbs of affection lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 12:47 AM
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"Laziness" = do everything and expect nothing in return. How do women actually expect us to respect them when they're so selfish by default? You are not forced to respect them, quite the contrary, establishing boundaries with young women these days is a great way to have them lose your respect. The dating market is materially, objectively unfair, your opinion and your high-self esteem isn't really gonna change that reality for most men. Life's not fair for men because simps accept women's frame.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 12:44 AM
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The opposite is not true. Good to know that women are forced into accepting these dating requests lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 12:40 AM
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Well that was a useless comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 12:39 AM
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Lmao at thinking that the red pill enables simping. What part of plate spinning and holding frame is simping to you, genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 12:39 AM
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How the fuck is "shut up and work on improving yourself to meet women's standards" not quintessentially red-pilled? Furthermore how is anything I said related to pick up artistry? Are you replying to the correct post?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 12:37 AM
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You aren't even aware the dollar symbol (in this case the Euro) belongs on the left side of a number as it has since antiquity, so forgive me if I proceeded with caution while reading the rest of your diatribe. Lack of culture I see? In french-speaking countries the currency symbol is written after the amount. Most men, even sexually unsuccessful ones, understand everything you've written, but the problem is one of effort vs reward. Personality flaw: laziness, I never said lack of awareness is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 12:35 AM
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But why shouldn't these men when they're not responsible for making the rules? The game is rigged, no harm in admitting that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 12:08 AM
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My TL:DR was quite concise thank you very much
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 12:04 AM
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What do you mean "offer for free", dating isn't a a fucking Netflix subscription, it's supposed to be a fun time between two people who agreed to go to a location together because they both think that they might be compatible for sex/relationship, it is a fucking mutually agreed upon process where both parties benefit or lose. The man paying for everything would indicate that one side is benefiting more regardless of the outcome of the date, that's the definition of unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:59 PM
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Men aren't a collective and neither are women, most men will value women for their looks above all else and the supply will adjust to the demand accordingly, ain't nothing the men who don't value looks above all else can do about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:56 PM
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You're right, obesity is seen as a problem, decadence when it comes to food is seen as a problem. Now do you honestly decadence when it comes to sex is seen as a problem in the modern west? Lmao hell nah
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:39 PM
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If I were to ask someone to lunch that was a stranger to me for a platonic reason I would expect to pay. I am asking for their time. They are agreeing as a favor to see what I have to say, not bc they are equally interested. That's a societal expectation that favours women (because women are very unlikely to approach), that doesn't make it fair. If you don't feel like paying, don't agree to the date, but women will never do that cause they know the man will pay anyways. Regardless, I myself do p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:38 PM
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Meh I think MGTOW is the pussy way out and unlikely to work for the average looking man if he's still planning on getting into a relationship. Honestly, red pill>MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:33 PM
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Paying on a date (which most men don’t even do) vs how dating is unfair to women (rape and murder) Bruh, paying on a date is in no way, shape or form fair on the men, both parties consented yet only one party is covering the bills? Not to mention that the man is not even guaranteed sex or a second date, so he's essentially gambling his money away. It's an outdated tradition that came from a time and place when women couldn't afford to do anything without a man's help, the reason why it wasn't ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:29 PM
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Sex robots that perfectly imitate humans but that's like 100 years in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:24 PM
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Men are biologically incentivised to value looks over anything else when it comes to mating, this has been the case across every culture and society on earth, I really don't see how this is even up for discussion lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:21 PM
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Bruh, you can complain about the rules while still playing the game, telling men to not complain at all is not the solution I proposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:20 PM
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Women are only valued for their beauty because that’s all men choose to value. Yeah and?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 09:51 PM
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I would wager that a small minority of men will actually become dangerous, the rest will just adapt or live with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 09:50 PM
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I feel like I already answered this didn't I? If you are a beta male then exercise your problem solving skills to figure out a way to fix the issues that make you as an individual, a beta male, again, it's either that, or completely giving up. Reality sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 09:36 PM
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Let him elaborate then, the flair says discussion not patronize.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 09:31 PM
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I feel like you got something to say lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 09:28 PM
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I don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 01:26 PM
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Bruh, how about you ask them about what they think of a person who is of low social value but acts confident, there's a myriad of ways to figure out how other people around you think you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 01:13 PM
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For you it's good, but others will see it as fake regardless if it's genuine or not, because you are undeserving of being that confident due to your social status; "why should this ugly dude with no friends act like he's the life of the party?" <--- this question will inevitably pop up in most people's heads. Again, that's why I said it's 50/50, simply being confident is not enough, you have to have enough social capital to justify your confidence as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 01:10 PM
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I think it's 50/50, certainly if you go around acting like you're hot shit when you're objectively not hot shit, people will not really care about your confidence and it will be seen as fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:14 PM
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Buddy, that's literally what I said in my initial comment, the other person thought salaries decreased because they were no longer tied to productivity, not due to inflation, I was arguing that it was due to inflation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 10:03 AM
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We can start by not having the printing machine go brrr whenever there's a slight economic recession. But what we really need is to bring the US government budget back into a surplus, if you want do that without increasing taxes and thus diminishing PPP, you need to cut spending, especially welfare spending which makes up damn near >65% of the whole country's budget, oh and cut corporate subsidies and let the market correct itself. Abolish Medicaid and Medicare and either go full private like in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 09:49 AM
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Looks 18 and is 18 is a very big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 09:45 AM
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Why would we factor in inflation when we're comparing nominal values? The whole point of my argument if that inflation is the only factor that's causing the diminishing PPP, if you want me to compare real prices it's still not gonna change my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 09:45 AM
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What about a 50 year old and an 18 year old? Technically an adult but come the fuck on man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 11:07 PM
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Google “red pill” Google what is "onus of evidence". Gay people don’t exist? Bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 03:20 PM
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It will handicap their ability to form relationships with women, romantic and otherwise. Ffs can you please fucking start saying how the red pill does any of this, just tell me what the fuck you think the red pill even is in the first place, and what does it tell men to do that constitute child abuse. It also will leave them with zero ability at best to navigate their romantic relationships should they turn out to be gay. This is such an extreme outlier lmao, and shows that you know nothing abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 03:16 PM
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This is not you elaborating, this is you repeating yourself. Justify exactly how red pill is child abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 03:11 PM
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You can't just drop a nuke like that without elaborating lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 03:08 PM
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I invite you again, to answer my question
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 11:44 AM
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Your pattern is inconsistent with reality, and these "outliers" are the biggest economic forces of the EU. Italy and Spain also show the same data as Germany.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 11:42 AM
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So you're arguing to increase minimum wage? What do you think will happen to prices and unemployment when the minimum wage goes up? I don’t understand how someone can argue that? Because when you have the most basic understanding of economics you understand that nothing is that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 11:38 AM
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Germany has the highest homeless population in the EU despite having the fourth highest minimum wage of the continent, conversely Switzerland has one of the lowest homeless populations on earth despite having 0 minimum wage lmao Try again
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 11:37 AM
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Ok, so you aren't for equity, that's good, now in a market where price is dictated by demand, if the majority of people who work 40 hours per week work in high paying jobs, how do you propose prices be controlled so that people who work 40 hours per week in low paying jobs can reap the same benefits without equalising their salaries and without causing a recession?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 11:28 AM
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Is that your response? Really? Don't go calling it a European thing then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 11:26 AM
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Let me get this straight, you think an employee who stocks cans for a living and a police detective, a teacher, or a mechanical engineer should have the same salary?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 11:21 AM
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Skip to TL:DR if lazy lmao https://www.census.gov/library/publications/1971/demo/p60-79.html#:~:text=The%20median%20money%20income%20of,the%20same%20as%20in%201969. The median money income of households in the United States was $8,730 in 1970. https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2021/demo/p60-273.html#:~:text=Median%20household%20income%20was%20%2467%2C521,median%20household%20income%20since%202011. Median household income was $67,521 in 2020, a decrease of 2.9 percent from the 2019 medi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 11:20 AM
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Can you answer my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 11:11 AM
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In the EU, there are over 700 000 homeless at any given night, in the US, there are 500 000 homeless at any given night. https://endhomelessness.org/homelessness-in-america/homelessness-statistics/state-of-homelessness-report-legacy/#:~:text=There%20are%20an%20estimated%20553%2C742,people%20in%20the%20general%20population. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/headlines/society/20201119STO92006/how-parliament-wants-to-end-homelessness-in-the-eu 700 000/447 000= 156 homeless for every 100 000th …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 11:07 AM
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Let me get this straight, you think an employee who stocks cans for a living and a police detective, a teacher, or a mechanical engineer should have the same salary? Assume in my hypothetical that all four of these people are working 40 hours a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 10:58 AM
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It is a myth that wages haven't increased in the 70s, the average household/individual income has gone up significantly since that time period, the main problem is the diminishing PPP thanks to out of control government inflation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 10:55 AM
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It's funny, it ain't even like the female perspective is all that useful lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 11:15 PM
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Bruh, life isn't fair, the world is sexist, women underperform at being friends compared to other men, the only thing unique they bring the table is social proof for fucking other women, this is the reality, and it quite literally doesn't care about misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 11:11 PM
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Social proof when it comes to hooking up with women, other than that, nothing lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 11:08 PM
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Ironically taking advice from a woman about dating is just about the worst thing you can do. The only real value female friends bring is social proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 11:07 PM
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Explain how this is not a longer way of saying “women are as fucking stupid as fish” Explain how saying women in the dating market don't know what they want is the equivalent of calling women stupid as a fish. Oh you mean basically the exact same advice a woman would give? Interesting Lmaooo, no young woman today tolerates blunt honesty, bruh, the average woman will freak the fuck out if you tell her you think they're incompatible because she's too fat, or because she's too unlikeable, or becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 10:43 PM
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TRP does not make men cynical, it is the process of breaking out of the blue pill that turns a person cynical. Which will happen to your son eventually unless if he's a natural red-pill, which is super rare. Just reminding you that both the terms red pill and blue pill aren't made up of unfounded characteristics, they represent ideas that are adopted by the public at large in the dating market, even if the public doesn't know what the words "TRP" or "TBP" means. The current post-feminist society…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 10:32 PM
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What, you think a woman who goes around saying the she wants a bf who respects her and treats her well will suddenly fall in love with some dude who slaps her around the first date? How do you think women end up with men who aren’t what they say they want? An egregiously large amount of women fall in love for outward narcissistic assholes that men can spot from a mile away, stop taking away a woman's agency on this matter, it doesn't take me a first date to see that a guy is not worth it. Your a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 10:23 PM
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Either you teach him the red-pill, or he grows up and painfully learns all of its virtues anyways (the third option is that he naturally becomes a red pill, but that's like only applicable to 10% of all men).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 10:18 PM
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the skills required to become famous almost are invariably the same types of skills required to be socially competent and date normally. There are a lot of socially awkward (Travis Scott) and unlikeable famous people out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 10:12 PM
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Bruh are you dense or do you need me to explain what an analogy is? Men always show their true colors on the first date of course. What the fuck does this have to do with anything I asked? Stay on point
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 10:09 PM
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Do you think women know what they want? Genuine question. Do you think the stereotype that women explicitly wish for nice guys but end up with assholes who abuse them came out of nowhere? I will say it again, fish are too stupid too understand how they were caught, don't fucking ask them how to catch other fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 10:02 PM
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Never ask a fish how to catch a fish, ask the fishermen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 05:47 PM
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They don't have to do anything, but since women are the gatekeepers of sex, then the answer to that question is logically going to be yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 10:30 PM
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Feel sorry for the wife lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 08:29 PM
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Liberalism in the "American sense" is fucked beyond belief to the point where the average liberal in the US is actually the complete opposite. I mean, seriously, Cali liberals are out here supporting hate speech laws, increased taxes, increased governmental regulations, and gun control, how are ANY of those things liberal in the conventional political sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 08:28 PM
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Correction, republicans are neoconservative/populist, Democrats are neo-liberal/corporatist. Both parties have no incentive to care about the workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 08:25 PM
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This the same party that still hasn't increased minimum wage or removed student loans despite promising both of things? The same party that proudly perpetuates the narrative of white privilege, completely unaware that the average working class white person in the US is in no way, shape, or form, "privileged"? The same party that unabashedly wants to regulate the 2nd amendment and increase federal taxes in order to supplement their overbloated welfare system, two things that directly hurt the ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 08:23 PM
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Why though? Them simply associating with these ideologies is a red flag? Why not hear them out instead of instantly ostracizing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 07:04 PM
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There is no point, but it happens, which is why unconditional love exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:45 PM
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For myself and a majority of people in the United States, yes. Only ~20% of the US population actually voted for Biden, just saying, most people don't give that much of fuck. Of course. I'd wager you'd get up to 75%+ against when you explain what this is to the general public. I mean yeah, the red pill is "problematic" in the sense that it completely breaks down the blue pill mentality that is adopted by the mainstream, however, the red pill itself is not problematic, and people who follow it we…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:22 PM
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Lmao, simply supporting or voting for Donald Trump is problematic for you? Also, the red pill? Really? The only decent online resource to help men increase their value and is probably already followed by the majority of non-beta males? This is what the other commenter meant he said leftists can't fathom someone disagreeing with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:13 PM
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Wokeism is the new religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:07 PM
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What, in your opinion, is a problematic point of view?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:06 PM
2

What's the condition to loving people who have died?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 01:10 PM
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This woman is lucky she is hot as balls lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 12:53 PM
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I'd like to think most women are also just shy and don't share anything out of fear, which is obviously socially unacceptable for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 12:44 PM
1

How is traditionalism part of blue pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 10:39 PM
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That's male red pill, although I would expand and say that the male red pill focuses more on maximizing men's happiness, female red pill is about femininity and traditionalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 09:48 PM
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You think modern mainstream dating encourages tradwives? Do tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 09:39 PM
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The exact fucking opposite lmao, she's s tradwife.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 09:33 PM
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Define "harmful", female red-pill encourages women to get more in touch with their femininity and to fullfil more traditional gender norms, if these women want to do it and like doing it, then to whom is it harmful to?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 10:39 AM
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Women literally invented the red pill for themselves but sure thing buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 10:38 AM
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Third world countries are not in the same economic market as first world countries when it comes to poor and working class for the most part. I don't even know what this means, are you saying the definition of poor changes across countries? Well, that's true, still doesn't mean that your average broke American isn't living like a king compared to most of the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 12:45 AM
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They got you to talk to them, that's already 80% of the job done thanks to TRP. The Red Pill hasn't been and never will be socially acceptable, these men were stupid enough to reveal it to you, in reality had they just continued following the red pill without saying it explicitly they would have probably done just fine. TRP's teachings have been proven to work, they literally force men to improve their value which has been the recipe to success for women for a looong time, but they also open the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:12 PM
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Mainstream dating and society in general does not instill common sense in men when it comes to attracting women, this is why the blue pill exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:07 PM
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We're just making up our own definitions now? a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:05 PM
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I thought you were talking about men's red pill, female red pill is more traditional in nature yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:09 AM
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Men wish they were froendzoned like that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:58 AM
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Lmao this is ridiculously true, so many women overreact to an astonishing degree
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:57 AM
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This is an oxymoron, how can a patriarchal society allow men to dominate the bottom rings of said society? The patriarchy doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:55 AM
2

Lmao if a women in public spaces gets assaulted that man will be white knighted to death, even if the woman deserves it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:53 AM
2

Jesus fucking Christ he's saying men fight over women and the women are fully aware of this happening
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:51 AM
6

Being a pussy doesn't excuse ghosting or standing up someone on a date, which an uncomfortable amount of women try to justify as "fearing for their safety".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:41 AM
3

Ah yes, the super dangerous redpill cult famous for creating literal Nazis lmao Any woman worth her salt is probably looking for a red-pilled man without both of them even realising it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:36 AM
3

Nothing wrong with it though, I would rather a man follow TRP than become an incel school shooter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:35 AM
1

Lmao many of the people you date are one or the other, they just don't say it because they don't know what they are even they exhibit the characteristics of both pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:33 AM
4

It's astonishing that you think TRP is about attempting to bring back old gender norms. TRP is mainly about waking up the modern blue pilled man into taking advantage of the current gender norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:33 AM
5

Some pathetic virgins might benefit from it though, especially those who never had a social life or anything. Either it's bullshit or it's not my man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:29 AM
5

TRP is for people who didn't have those advantages when they were children, you're one of the lucky ones who grew up practicing TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:29 AM
1

Doesn't change what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 10:00 PM
2

Seethe at reality lmso
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 09:56 PM
4

Hey Alexa, define assault. make a physical attack on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 09:40 PM
5

Getting mad at a comedian doesn't give you the right to assault him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 08:52 PM
7

Bruh just stop, will smith said it was an open marriage AFTER she cheated on him, fucking lol It's like when Kylie said that she and Travis were in an open relationship after mountains of evidence came up proving that Travis cheated on her multiple times. Celebrities do this shit all the time to save face, in reality, both Kylie and Will Smith are cucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 08:51 PM
2

Yeah no, Will Smith was literally laughing before he bitch slapped Chris Rock, he's a hypocrite. Also fuck that woman she doesn't deserve his love after what she's done.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 08:46 PM
1

I love how to you the opposite of sexual liberalism is rape lmao What the fuck do you think it means? It means going back to the 1950s conditions of sexual expression, slut behaviour? Taboo. Promiscuity? Taboo. High n count? Taboo. Etc, etc. I ain't for it, I'm just saying it's gonna happen if we don't fix this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:52 PM
1

Lmao where, you've been all over this thread with delusional takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:41 PM
1

How did any movement get popular? How did feminism take over? Why was sexuality liberalised? Because there was a demand for it and slowly but surely over the decades these movements grew in popularity, legitimacy and influence. I have no idea how it can occur but my best guess would be through the men's rights movement or by coopting "woke" movements and demonizing sexuality, but again we literally can't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:41 PM
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Very red-pilled, I like it, unfortunately this is a temporary bandaid on the macro-scale, undesirable men will start dismantling the sexual revolution in the West if this persists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 05:00 PM
1

Where did he say women are all the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:56 PM
2

They do, but women have the upper hand in this situation and thus deserve the full burden of having orbiters, although males who are aware that they're orbiters and still choose to continue being orbiters are fucking pussies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:55 PM
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Women also have to work hard for a lot of things. Not in today's post-feminist western world, and certainly not in comparison to men. I say this as a generalisation since I know there's gonna be that one CEO woman working impossible hours frothing at the mouth after reading this comment. So women have less chance of finding sex or partners when uglier. You do realise this is statistically wrong, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:48 PM
0

Probably ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:34 PM
1

These are terrible odds unless if you're saying you're guaranteed a LTR or sex for every 200th woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 11:25 AM
1

Yet the number of shy and meeky men has grown over the years? Confidence is learnt, not biological, really doubt women are hard-wired to be attractive to confident men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 10:18 AM
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Because it's usually men who hurt women and not backwards. That is a hell of an absolutist statement even with the word "usually" included in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 09:34 PM
1

Feminism shouldn't preach about equality when the members it's supposed to render equal to men actually have numerous practical advantages over them now. Feminism gets mocked/taken less seriously as a result of this hypocrisy in its platform, I mean, in addition to the fact that the seriousness of the issues being addressed by feminism diminishes by the year (seriously, the biggest problems of the past half decade were the wage gap, and mansplainging...), it's not really surprising. If feminism …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 06:54 PM
-2

Why are you commenting when you're off the dating market lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 11:09 AM
0

Oh we're supposed to guess your worth lmao, trust me if these men don't ask then they don't know and they likely don't care to know (aka they're just here for your pussy)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 11:04 AM
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If I'm being asked that question, I'm dipping out, since whatever I reply with isn't good enough. Good, the quicker the woman dips out the more time I have to invest in women that actually have something to contribute in my life beside their pussy. Like seriously, your initial instinct to a question like that is to fucking run?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 08:17 AM
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UK has a similar dating market, I don't know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:56 PM
2

So? Communist basically?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:54 PM
2

Everything he just described happens in France (source: I live there), maybe this shit doesn't happen in the East.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:53 PM
1

Any subject that tries to study a group of people is gonna end up dehumanising them, literally any sociology major will tell you that. Dehumanisation isn't really that big of a deal in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:46 PM
3

What about your mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:40 PM
2

I think when TRP talks about women it's not talking about close family members or people older than 30. Young women who are not family members absolutely fit in the sweeping generalisations of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:38 PM
1

Are they telling you those "candidates" are attractive? Or is that your assessment? I literally know these people, they're not incels nor are they weirdos, they're fucking attractive, physically and personality wise at least 7/10s lmao, and they do think they're hot. What's up with the ending there? Are you gonna actually try to answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 03:27 PM
1

Hey, we have that in common! I, too, haven't been approached by a man I find attractive in precisely 7 years. But I'm approached frequently by men who startle me, gross me out, are incredibly weird or incredibly old, men who share zero in common with me, and frequently, self-styled pick up artists who clearly have no idea what they are doing. Uhm, you're not the norm then, 99% of the women I know receive at a minimum a healthy dose of attractive candidates throwing themselves at these women (wet…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 03:24 PM
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Yes, you do realise I haven't gotten approached by a woman I find attractive in over 7 years? I doubt the average ~7/10 man is doing any different, and I know for a fact that I'm at least an 8/10 since women that I approach and hook up with (and my female friends) consistently give me this rating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 03:18 PM
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In the context of what we're talking about, nothing. But as a whole they're pretty interlinked.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 03:07 PM
1

Yed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 03:00 PM
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I know, which is why I laugh when people say feminism is about equality of both sexes. And I do think it's changing, only because more men are checking out of the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:10 PM
3

A tradition which feminism doesn't seem too keen on dismantling.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:42 AM
3

Man I wish I was a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:39 AM
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See, "probably" does not compensate for the social consequence of rejection, I personally don't care I'll go for any opportunity I see, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:33 AM
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More like women don't need to do it cause men will approach them anyways. Trust me if men collectively decided to stop pursuing women would start getting off their asses.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:26 AM
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Soft approaching is just inviting someone else to approach you, it doesn't count as making the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:24 AM
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Isn't it nice having the option to do that? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:23 AM
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https://www.webmd.com/sex/features/sex-drive-how-do-men-women-compare#:~:text=In%20a%20survey%20of%20studies,more%20frequent%20and%20varied%20fantasies. Well, yes, they do. Study after study shows that men's sex drives are not only stronger than women's, but much more straightforward. The sources of women's libidos, by contrast, are much harder to pin down.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 09:14 AM
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It's not impossible considering it already happened, there are ways to enforce it it's just that those ways are unpopular for now (and I don't support them myself).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:17 PM
0

1950s USA wasn't a theocracy if I recall
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:11 PM
1

Make slut phases taboo, for men and women, it ain't that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:04 PM
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No, it means they got lucky, leagues work in a general sense, and there are exceptions to literally everything. A fat 300 pound gamer nerd who smell like shit is not gonna end up with Madison Beer, this is what we call "being out of your league", and the chances of getting someone out of your league decreases in proportion to the distance between both person's arbitrary "rank".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 09:58 PM
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There's a difference between horniness and liking the act of sex. Of course women like to have sex when it happens, they just don't have the drive to fuck as much as men do, it's this disparity that gives women an advantage in the dating market despite their population being relatively equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 09:44 PM
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Lmao, could have made your point without mentioning a conspiracy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 09:41 PM
1

By right do you mean austerity or trickle down? Cause both parties follow neo-liberal economic policy. With the exception of Trump who was a protectionist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 08:01 PM
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How was I being uncivil though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 10:44 PM
2

I mean, the GOP is still fighting against gay marriage First off, not really, the majority of Republicans approve of gay marriage, an even larger majority doesn't approve but doesn't think the government should intervene. The GOP in this case doesn't represent the American right anymore even if they are fighting against same sex marriage (which they're really not). red states are banning books about anything they find scary. It's been all over the news lately. Books getting removed from a school…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 06:12 PM
2

Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 01:11 PM
1

Centrism is is when you have too many political affiliations from both sides of the aisle to lean into one, it's a convenient way to describe someone who believes in a relatively equal amount of policies on both sides. It's not taking the middle for the sake of taking middle, no one becomes centrist out of thin air, it's similar to how a person who majorly believes in leftist policies leans leftist and rightist policies leans rightist. Lots of redditors are actually centrists in denial because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 11:56 AM
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Not really? Many of them don't believe in the family unit, support abortion, support immigration, support the legalisation of drugs, etc. If by conservative you mean homophobic then I don't know what to tell you, liberal communities aren't immune to prejudice neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 11:49 AM
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It annoys to no end when redditors call themselves liberals then in the same breath support the abolition of the second amendment and the criminalisation of hate speech. Don't expect political intelligence on this website, most of the dumbasses here call themselves liberals because they think liberals = good side, and authoritarians = bad side, regardless of whether the policies they support are actually liberal or not. It's this black and white thinking that allows them to call centrism apathy,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 03:25 AM
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It's liberal communities where people think men can be different—probably because it's those same educated liberal communities where men are less possessive, less controlling, less violent, and more involved in child care That less violent statement is off, the most liberal cities in the US have the highest rates of violence compared to the most conservative small towns. Also when it comes to childcare, single mother households are an epidemic in liberal areas, so I don't buy that one either. Re…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 03:17 AM
5

Well if the left is actively hostile against young white males then what's wrong with them identifying as right wing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 03:10 AM
6

You can admit that the rules are unfair while still playing the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 04:41 PM
6

Net negative man, social media (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and Reddit) should not be allowed to children under 18 to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 04:37 PM
1

In any discussion that depends on generalities, so basically any scientific discussion or any debate that utilises maths and statistics as empirical evidence necessarily requires that the subjects being discussed be dehumanised (in this case, it's women and men). Otherwise you end up with a whole slew of uncountable variables and the discussion turns meaningless since there's always this and that exception to the rule, as is the case with any study revolving around humans. I really can't explain…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:40 PM
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If you're not willing to dehumanise the members of the dating market then there's no point in discussing anything that is tangibly related to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 12:53 AM
2

So you argument is necessity? I want it for protection. My personal safety>>>your irrational fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:24 PM
2

Like saying cars are positively correlated with car crashes lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:14 PM
1

How about you get a gun yourself instead of fearing others for having it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 08:49 PM
2

Please explain to me how paying for everything on a first date allows a woman to do any of those things, you're acting like >95% of men in the dating market, wether they're compatible with the woman or not, don't pay for dates. The only reason why it exists is because it came from a time and place where women couldn't provide for themselves, sure as shit isn't the case now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 04:22 PM
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I pay for all my dates because it's simply more practical, unless she physically stops me and pulls out her wallet (which never fucking happens) there is no pragmatic point in not paying, it's an easy way to score points. However, it is a completely unfair burden on men and I refuse to concede that it's ideologically unjustified, it's not, it's blatant sexism, but reality is sexist and fuck me if I'm going to become a feminist and cry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 12:15 PM
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The whole point of TRP is to differentiate itself from the blue pill by asking men to stop ignoring reality and understand their position in the dating market. This is not comparable to FDS, which literally preaches that a woman is valuable no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 12:12 PM
1

Bruh, population birth rate in the West is a lot higher than in China, like at least by a factor of two higher. Plus the West has immigration helping it, China does not see as many immigrants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 11:57 AM
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Why not? Why is it that women initiate a supermajority of divorces? Hypothesis; they're less commited.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 11:08 PM
1

Them existing is not a condition that they have to fullfil through action or effort though. Although I agree if you meant romantic love.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 10:13 PM
3

Divorce statistics would indicate that that's true for the majority of settled men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 10:12 PM
1

Loving people who died? Loving unborn children? Loving children in general? What's the condition there?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 10:08 PM
2

Who is this "we"? China's demographic problems do not compare to those of the West, China not only has an aging population but they also have a birth rate below that of the average developed European country, their population pyramid is literally going to invert, China is absolutely FUCKED beyond belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:28 PM
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China is facing a huge demographic crisis that'll cause the complete upheaval of their economy, rivaling that of the Great Depression, and keep in mind that the current generation of Chinese have yet to experience a recession. Plus the West is working on cutting them off too, and EU is gearing up it's military again, China ain't no threat for the next half a century lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:23 PM
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Even India is supporting China/Russia against the West. India is absolutely not supporting China, wtf are you talking about? The West is getting older and weaker. It can't win militarily either against these countries so the power dynamics are changing. Boy, the US alone can curbstomp both Russia and China without help for the foreseeable future (read: 100 years), with the help of NATO the East's military might as well not exist. Also, China is facing the largest demographic crisis since the Bla…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:20 PM
0

Back in the day you could be a pizza delivery driver and have enough for rent, car, girlfriend. This is literally pure bullshit lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:17 PM
1

You mean to tell me these women get so much obnoxious attention from men that they'd rather be completely ignored despite their disfigured face (visibly missing teeth? Fucking seriously?). I do have plenty of interactions with ugly women, they absolutely call bullshit on "getting too much attention" lmao, sorry don't buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 09:42 PM
-1

Being sexually attractive or used for sex is not disrespectful, it's a mutual decision that you participated in, men would die to be disrespected like that lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 07:30 PM
0

What? These women are lying, let's prove their tenacity then, have them purposefully put terrible make-up (or no makeup) and cover up their hair with a hijab (or completely shave their hair), have them purposefully wear shitty unflattering clothing, have them gain some weight, etc, etc, you can see where I'm going with this; have them look as ugly as possible. Let's see how long they can survive without the attention (which if you're telling the truth, they should be fine prioritizing over looki…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 07:28 PM
1

How exactly has the goal post been moved lmao The conversation is still about why paying for sex is better than going on a date
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 04:00 PM
2

What do you consider a good accomplishment?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 02:57 PM
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Most of the time what women consider "accomplishments" is what men consider "basic level shit that I need to even get you to look at me".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 02:57 PM
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Would you rather be completely ignored? Lmao, y'all objectively have the better end of the stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 02:55 PM
3

Are you guaranteed sex after one date? Lmao There's also a risk factor to consider, 50$ is guaranteed sex, 50$ spent on three different outings cannot guarantee sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 09:33 AM
1

In those countries is prostitution socially accepted? Similar to how the easiest options for sex for women are socially accepted?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 09:27 AM
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The problem is it's socially unacceptable, even though it's the easiest way men can get sex, whereas women have plenty of socially acceptable options to get sex easy, that's one of the primary reasons why the dating market is fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 09:24 AM
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Disgusting dms after a bikini pick saying you should die and you’re a worthless whore? Being laughed at and having the word slut shouted at you in school assemblies before you present a notice because some one said you were easy? What about ny friend who had it keyed into her car after her ex found out she’d moved on? I'm just gonna go ahead and say your experience does not represent even 90% of how women are treated for their sexual degeneracy here (France), like bruh this shit is far too extre…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 04:53 PM
1

Slut shaming would be to go around berating the girl about her sexual activities, what you're talking about in private conversations is not comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 04:51 PM
1

Well yeah that's what I mean
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 09:13 AM
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The same thing that's been happening for centuries lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 12:13 AM
3

Because robots can be programmed to imitate a relationship theoretically forever. I'm sure most men would be happy if the prostitute they paid for treated them the same way 24/7 for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 11:03 PM
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The thing is none of those things are humanoid robots that are so indistinguishable from humans that you can legitimately fall in love with them. It sounds dystopic but I'm pretty sure we're going to reach the point where forming relationships with robots is more valuable than forming relationships with another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:54 PM
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In europe even my ugliest friends get laid. Cap, western Europe is just like the US with it's sexual market. Source: lives in France
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:50 PM
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That's the thing, women expect you to be pretty, rich and fit, you don't fill all three criteria in one way or the other you are literally sexually fucked in the West. In Asia, money is the most important thing, in Arab countries honestly looks matter more than money, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:47 PM
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China? They're about to be hit with one of largest demographic crisis in human history specifically because they tried to regulate the sex market. Russia? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:42 PM
2

Or just go into a different country. Or save money and get hookers if your goal is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:37 PM
6

They probably have the same dynamics as female-to-male friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 08:27 PM
2

or want to fuck your friends So basically force your brain to suppress your biological urges? How on earth does that lead to a happy, healthy friendship? Sounds like the man will just end up feeling miserable long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:48 PM
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I guarantee you most male friends are actively supressing their urge to fuck in order to not ruin their friendships assuming they're actually physically attracted to their female friends. The only way a man and a woman can have a healthy friendship, is if both parties are physically unattracted to each other; if the man is unattractive, the woman will simply friendzone instantly, or completely ignore him, if the woman is unattractive, the man will befriend her without dying inside every time she…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:47 PM
2

She would sleep in my bed and I would sleep on the floor. I'm sorry but this is peak retardation lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 05:52 PM
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Women tend to be gold diggers far more than men, the latter are often too embarrassed to ask for favours like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 05:51 PM
2

Joking around is not flirting, making sexual/sensual comments disguised as jokes is flirting however.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 05:42 PM
1

That's simply not true otherwise like less than 20% of men would have sexual/relationships and everyone else would literally get nothing or be forever unhappy. The average person can be attractive to women, it's just that they don't approach because why expend all that energy when you can let him come to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 09:44 AM
2

You underestimate the time the average woman spends doing her make-up lmao, my sister does in fact take an hour, most of my female friends take minimum 40 minutes, and if there's a party or any kind of social gathering where male attention is prioritized, they're gonna spend the better part of their day making themselves look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 09:40 AM
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Messages? Yes. What? You think men receive the same amount of messages? https://www.businessinsider.com/online-dating-message-statistics-2013-7 This is literally statistically incorrect Complements? No. At least we can agree on that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 09:35 AM
3

I would say no, although it can creep her out. Nah I know for a fact it didn't creep her out so... (For the record this particular gift is basically a pair of boots she's wanted since forever).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 09:33 AM
1

So we're both in agreement
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 01:09 AM
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https://youtu.be/AsdM0KPbRbw https://youtu.be/SM7l-ZT9seo I mean bruh there's a billion dollar industry around this shit, trust me it fucking works.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 01:08 AM
3

I forgot about women being incredibly lazy and unaffected by things like rejection and disapproval. Are you seriously gonna pretend that it's comparable to the level of shit men receive? And how much fun it is to have to reject someone. Again, are you seriously gonna say that rejecting someone is equal to or worse than chasing somebody and then getting rejected? I don't understand why you even responded. If you didn't then you wouldn't have responded.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 01:06 AM
2

https://youtu.be/1CUNUZ2OOVY
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:56 AM
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Why are you acting like sex doesn't happen in prison lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:56 AM
1

I genuinely think you're trolling or you're half blind, you can absolutely tell when a woman has make-up on her face, and you can most definitely tell when that same woman takes it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:55 AM
1

Why is this seemingly "biological" issue only a relatively new occurence that never existed in both patriarchal and non-patriarchal societies?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:54 AM
2

The same study also says that men find 65% of women above average, so your last paragraph is probably pure bullshit lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:52 AM
5

Who the fuck calls doing your family a favour simping?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:38 AM
2

Does buying my female friend a birthday gift without the expectation of receiving anything in return count as simping?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:35 AM
2

Depends on the dinner, what if it's just a good restaurant with decent pricing? If your goal is to get laid then taking her to chipotle is ain't exactly stimulating material
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:33 AM
12

Have you ever been to a college dorm or interacted with any groups of young women in the past ten years? Being slut shamed is the least of their concerns, an STD test should be a higher priority if I'm being honest with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:27 AM
3

Sure thing, can you post me a picture of a celebrity you consider attractive? I really don't care about plastic surgery though, I ain't fucking her natural body after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:25 AM
4

i cannot think of one flaw you can hide with makeup. it’s literally just colors it doesn’t change your facial features and proportions and sizes of your features. men are so stupid about this stuff it’s unbelievable. Do you live in fantasy land? https://youtu.be/lH-76zluqQU https://youtu.be/CMCkvW6GSMg https://images.app.goo.gl/ooZxjbJiKPwTg9PV6 https://youtu.be/1CUNUZ2OOVY Your comment fried my fucking brain lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:22 AM
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Most women wear make-up in much more subtle ways lmao Second date recommendation; take a girl out to the goddamn swimming pool, suddenly the girl you're dating has racoon dark undereye circles and puffy cheeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:19 AM
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Nobody wants to look ugly at any social gathering, that doesn't refute OP's point, if anything it enhances it. If said women knew for a fact that they were the last person on earth, do you think they'd be going around wearing make-up for themselves? Hell nah
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:11 AM
1

Do you seriously believe that men are getting bombarded with messages and complements like women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:09 AM
7

I'm happy you fully support it, I'm just not happy that most women don't seem to give one iota of a shit, or worse, actively put down men who break gender norms (see how long you'll last in the dating market without direct approach as a man).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:03 AM
2

Men as a collective aren't united compared to the feminists, lots of them have been brainwashed into the 3rd wave.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:02 AM
3

Really? https://www.instagram.com/p/CavGt9SK4ic/?utm_medium=copy_link You think this is ugly? Your standards must be through the roof then, I ain't going to even mention the Jenners. Like bruh this is what I would actually consider ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:58 PM
4

It's not paranoia, it's literally a statistical fact. https://www.google.com/amp/s/techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/amp/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:56 PM
6

Eyeing somebody is not hitting them up ffs, it's inviting them to hit on you, two different processes that are completely incomparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:55 PM
14

The vast majority of men don't get hit on because the vast majority of women were raised to believe that good girls don't lust. Or have casual sex. Or hit on men. Fucking good one lmao, the vast majority of women don't hit on men because the process requires effort, and why go through all that effort when you can just sit back and pick the hottest guy you didn't reject? We live in a post-feminist society, young 18 year olds today are far from getting slut shamed, they just don't do it because be…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:53 PM
1

Social media is what's causing women's overinflated shallowness, not their biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:49 PM
8

Are you acting like MSM on a 24hr cycle designed to make you glued to the screen is in any way representative of reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:43 PM
3

Feminism as a movement began when those seniors were children, so yeah...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:38 PM
0

Except becoming a prostitute does not require a degree, the barrier of entry is so much lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 08:53 PM
4

Most escorts bang like three dudes a day anyways and make 300-400 $ each time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 08:51 PM
3

same as you'd expect guys to do. I'm sorry but normal weighted, well dressed men still have a hell of a harder time picking up girls than similarly normal weighted, well dressed women have picking up men. What you did is basic shit, every man needs to do that to even be viable in today's dating market if he wants to pick up people he finds attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 03:28 PM
3

What did you have to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 11:01 AM
7

Bruh, women even under the protection of men already act like savages, imagine them left to their own devices in the middle of the forest
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 10:54 AM
7

This is a lie, women are innately attractive regardless of what their personality is like
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 10:52 AM
1

I agree, there are many facets of attractiveness for example people who talk about landing a woman as is she were a fish are not attractive. Lots of 9/10s end up hooking up with these people though, that's why I said a good personality being what you need, let alone all you need to land these women is a delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 10:39 AM
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If she thinks her time is so valuable then she can fucking say no. Do you not understand how retarded it is to expect a woman to pay for my meals even though I accepted to go out with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 10:29 AM
4

No one made you ask her out. No one made her accept, this is a two-way transaction. Paying to score points is beta Lmao nah You risk losing respect with some women if you don't propose to pay the whole bill, if your goal to maximize your chances of sex or relationships, then there is literally no pragmatic reason to not pay, worst case scenario you paid for a fast answer to the question; "are we gonna be a thing?" and can move on quickly. So that's why I always propose to pay unless if the girl …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:58 AM
2

The men here are so fucking entitled. He says as he picks the solution that's by far more convenient for women than it is for men. I'm not one to complain, I think the man should pay simply because it's more practical if your goal is to score points with the woman you're dating, not because of "equality" or "how dare you interrupt a woman's time and not pay her" or any feminist bullshit like that. Seriously, y'all need to be a little more pragmatic with your "solutions".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:39 AM
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Or they think the woman will think less of them even if they offer to split the bill
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:35 AM
0

Goddamn lucky bastard lmao, hold on to her for dear life if that's true
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 06:04 AM
0

Most young attractive women are insecure as fuck, if your goal is to date hotties that's what you have to contend with, if your goal is to wife up a decent human being with long-term till-death prospects, good luck on your quest for the unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 06:02 AM
0

America is associated here with wasting money, guillable tourist and guns. Based, based, and unfathomably based. Tbh I think knowing how to shoot a gun is a more attractive trait than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 06:00 AM
1

Doesn't really matter, women are completely star struck over here (Paris) when they hear a guy walking around with an American accent, to be fair so am I, we only see you guys in movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:59 AM
2

He's not in his prime yet, I'd agree with you if he was 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:50 AM
2

Agreed, although a base level of respect is recommended if you don't want to turn into the stereotypical player asshole and attract the most horrible women for relationship prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:46 AM
1

Right? Like do these people not understand that if this girl is remotely attractive she will get bombarded with far more attractive men on the weekly? You have to have the mental fortitude of Bruce Wayne to not fall into the pit of shallowness as a decently attractive woman in 2022, or be isolated from Western society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:41 AM
1

Also known as Plan Bs, friendzones, and orbiters. Personality being the only thing you need to land 9/10s is a fucking delusion or such a statistical anomaly that it might as well be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:38 AM
1

seems to be women from western nations. You mean the group that has to put no mental effort into the dating market is also the group with the most warped expectations? Careful now I think I see a feminist frothing at the mouth over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:36 AM
1

I can tell you in conservative countries like Saudi Arabia or Egypt, having game doesn't matter in the slightest, the women there are actually far shallower than in the West, and they tend to have a lot of inexperience which comes with the package of them lowering their expectations. Imagine the western dating market back in 50s, that's the current reality in these countries, having good career prospects and taking basic care of yourself is literally all that is needed to become somewhat of a Ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:34 AM
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Personality + physical attractiveness + interesting lifestyle is attractive, personality alone is very meh, if your goal is to have as many relationships as possible, having a good personality alone without some level of cockiness is a good way to net you a lot of female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:28 AM
1

The thing is you don't really know what makes a man attractive if you're not attracted to other men. Are you saying women know what they want in men? Lmao this is hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:25 AM
0

Women are not known for reciprocating kindness with attraction, honesty is a far more attractive trait, letting her know that you can walk away from her at any time is also a far more attractive trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:23 AM
1

Women are even hotter than they were then too. This is entirely subjective though? Plus I feel like your perception has been warped by social media, as have women's perceptions; which is probably why Chad is becoming a rarity. Has nothing to do with society improving In looks, has everything to do with the overabundance of data our brains are getting spammed with. Men can only do so much, at some point you have to understand that women simply have unreasonable expectations that cannot be realist…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:17 AM
1

Not enough evidence to conclude that it's only due to social conditioning. Regardless, even if there was that wouldn't change the reality that women are more emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:12 AM
1

Because not everyone's an incel, and I bet you Chad was far more common a few decades ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:08 AM
1

It could be 0.5% but the image itself doesn't account for decimals. It could also be correct, I mean, you can read up on the study yourself, women have ridiculously unattainable expectations, it wouldn't shock me if Chad was so statistically unlikely that the chances of finding him are nearing 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:06 AM
2

This assumes that all 70% of the men on the website are unattractive, most likely the top 15% that are being chased are not going to be 6/10s, women would rather give up on Tinder than chase after 6s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:04 AM
1

https://m.imgur.com/L9Vu4Zo Men's expectations are literally far lower with ~65% deemed above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 04:58 AM
2

Women have reasonable standards in terms of what each man can offer. Hey Jarvis, pull up that OkCupid statistic that says that women find 80% of men below average
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 04:58 PM
1

Well congratulations, but your point did not come across well, and in my counterargument, I never dispelled the notion that hormones mostly affects behaviour (to pretend otherwise is actually pretty retarded, like you do understand that our emotional states are a result of hormones flooding our nervous system, right?)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 01:56 PM
1

Men's high level of testorone manifests itself more in physical/phenotypical differences than emotional ones. Men also have higher levels of serotonin than women, which is the main hormone behind happiness/non-agression. The only thing stopping women from being just as physically violent as men is their lack of physical strength; Research consistently reports that women use indirect aggression to an equivalent or greater extent than men (Archer and Coyne, 2005). Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 12:45 PM
0

Blow jobs are overrated imo
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 01:17 AM
1

Please shut up if you don't have an argument to make on god
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 01:15 AM
1

I ain't playing with my words, how hard is it for you retards to stop making assumptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 01:14 AM
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Do like my dad did, focus on education, last I checked getting a General Education Degree is free, and getting super high grades gives you scholarships. Or you could get a loan if you're in the US and work your ass off, make yourself valuable to companies. You could do all this even if you're dirt poor and forced to work a shitty job just to pay rent. Nobody said it was going to be easy, but to pretend that it's impossible, especially in America, is delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 12:44 AM
2

Women are biologically more prone to be emotional. https://stanmed.stanford.edu/2017spring/how-mens-and-womens-brains-are-different.html
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:39 PM
0

Please, if everyone quit their low wage, yet essential jobs society would fucking collapse Yes, thank you for pointing out the obvious, what's your point exactly? EDIT: r/PCM, that explains a lot. Not my fault that it's the most reasonable subreddit on this shit hole of a website.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 09:18 PM
1

I'm responding to your point, other than that I really don't care if they're destroying their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 09:16 PM
2

Except that many (if not most) social justice movements are started by and led by the victims. I'd call that agency. That specific part is them taking agency sure, but that doesn't change the fact that these movements end up adapting a noble savage archetype when defending the minorities they protect, they literally coddle them and treat them like children who can do no wrong, and then proceed to blame an out-group if they do commit anything wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 09:16 PM
1

Even people prone to weight gaining don't defy biology, put them in a concentration camp and they'll still come out of it looking like a stick. They just need to eat less, but they don't cause they're lazy, undisciplined, depressed, whatever...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:54 PM
4

I see it as a sort of backlash as a result of thousands of years of women keeping opinions to themselves, To say this is to believe that the same women who existed thousands of years ago still exist now, truth is a few generations ago being treated like a servant was accepted, normalized and even encouraged by women. The women who grow up today are surrounded by feminist propaganda, this is why they end up behaving with an innate hostility towards men, it has nothing to do with them "finally let…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:41 PM
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The thing is, so as long as you don't disrespect women in real life, they tend to not disrespect you back, and even if they do disrespect you for no reason, which tends to happen more often than you think, treating them like you would treat children is often the best course of action. Reality is quite sexist and unfair unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:33 PM
5

True/end-stage red pillers are by definition not simps. The whole point of the red pill is to stop you from being Mr.Nice Guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:31 PM
2

No longer will they have to put up with unwanted attention from men. Tbh women probably are fans of the unwanted attention and would rather suffer from its side effects than receive no attention at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:26 PM
2

Progressives tend be pro-dogma, not pro-science, they believe in science as a method until it disagrees with their worldview, that's why a lot of people call wokeism the new religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:23 PM
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https://stanmed.stanford.edu/2017spring/how-mens-and-womens-brains-are-different.html Discoveries like this one should ring researchers’ alarm buzzers. Women, it’s known, retain stronger, more vivid memories of emotional events than men do. They recall emotional memories more quickly, and the ones they recall are richer and more intense. If, as is likely, the amygdala figures into depression or anxiety, any failure to separately analyze men’s and women’s brains to understand their different susc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:19 PM
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I feel sorry for your delusions and baseless misogyny. As usual the feminist faced with the painful realities of the advantages women have in society and how it negatively affects them retreats back into accusations of misogyny and sexism, nothing new to see here folks. You are literally a danger to women. Tell that to all my female friends, you people specialise in making baseless assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:15 PM
3

That is always what red pill men imply, every time. You're speaking out of both sides of your mouth on this one: women aren't inferior, they're different... in ways that mean we should treat them and view them like they are subordinate. Who says that we want to treat them like subordinates? You're making the assumption that we want to dominate them, we don't, we want to get through society's challenges, and one of those challenges includes dealing with women, expecting them to act like adult men…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:12 PM
-5

That someone doesn't have to do it for life, this libertarian crap is the reason my father went from a poor man in a third world country to earning more than 90% of Americans do today. Stop with the victim mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:37 PM
12

Nobody's talking about warzones FFS, you picked a very extreme hypothetical. Nothing is a bigger turnoff than this shit. The turnoff is acting like a victim, you can understand the reality of your position in society as a man (which is objectively on a downwards trajectory) and not cry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:33 PM
9

Do you have an actual argument to make? Cause casual dismissals ain't it chief
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:16 PM
2

I'm sure the criminal dealing with an unarmed populace favour that too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:08 PM
8

Hey Siri, what is hyperbole and straw man. Man's point was that women are coddled like teenagers, so they in return act like teenagers, how hard is that to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:06 PM
0

Based
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:05 PM
6

Any social justice movement tends to treat the people they're protecting like they're innocent children with no agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:04 PM
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Pretty much, this added level of protection allows them to act like children, men would do the same if this was happening to them too, but it isn't, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:03 PM
8

Correction : women act like spoiled brats (obligatory; not a blanket statement for all the feminists frothing at the mouth), until they hit their late 20s, that's when their pussy pass starts expiring and people stop putting them up on a pedestal. This isn't really a female problem though, moreso a societal problem, if men and women started treating me like I'm the second coming of Christ, it'll be hard for me not to fall into the pit of narcissism and attention seeking too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:02 PM
10

Their brain chemistry tends to make them more prone to think with their emotions, like teenagers. Nothing here implies that women are inferior for doing so, simply that they're different.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 05:57 PM
1

Bruh moment
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 06:44 AM
2

I have actively rejected many girls in these past few months. If I wanted a girlfriend I could have gotten one, now stop attacking my character and bring some actual arguments to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 08:58 PM
1

Women are inferior to men in terms of independence because their entire biological role is to be the child's caregiver. Nothing wrong with that, just the way nature works and it's only due to technology that we managed to change this recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 08:04 AM
6

Boy, statistically speaking in western society men are worse off in the legal system, in the dating market, in the job market, and in therapeutic and welfare systems. You don't have to cry and act like a victim to understand these realities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:36 AM
2

If you have another word to describe an alpha person please use it. For now I think I got my point across.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:34 AM
3

Nope, since I'm working on myself right now first and foremost, but all my friends that do have girlfriends and are in a happy relationship are pretty alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:41 PM
1

Sweet Jesus do you honestly think that any pregnant woman more than 100 years ago could easily survive without her husband? Let's go all the way back to the hunter gathering societies, that way you can't use the patriarchy card.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:37 PM
1

most of them settle down for caring, educated, attractive men Throw in confident and non-needy and you got yourself a traditional man lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:24 PM
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Lol nobody WANTS "traditional men", Lmao, confident, honest, non-needy, physically asserting and economically valuable men are always going to be at the top of the food chain until the end of time. Traditional men>Modern effeminate men always every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:21 PM
4

I mean you can believe that and not cry about it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:18 PM
2

Most women are like this.
/r/seduction20/01/22 01:46 PM
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But I definitely don't need you, a man who is around the same age as me and a virgin, to explain to me-- a woman-- what women will and won't do. I agree that the guy above should switch up his tactics when it comes to seduction but please don't say that just because you're a woman somehow your opinion is superior. If anything, I'd honestly rather take advice from the guy above than from you, because you don't ask a fish how to catch a fish, you ask the fishermen.
/r/seduction10/10/21 06:10 PM
3

As a normal chad, I concur that instantly kissing girls is a bad move.
/r/seduction10/10/21 06:03 PM
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