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But you wont ever be fully satisfied with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:21 PM
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I disagree. I went to a 15year high school reunion recently. Im 34 going on 35. All of the hot jocks and cute nerds from highschool aged like me and do not look as good as they did in their teenage years and 20s. (I have gone to all of my highschool reunions) Men and women age the same. Men say they age better but they dont- society is just a bit more forgiving with them aging. But purely from an objective visual point- they actually dont age better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:20 PM
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Not thats your selfish delusional definition of loyalty. They are the same thing for both sexes. Also another flaw of your statement is men expect women to contribute financially now too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:19 PM
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Men over 30 are also less attractive than their younger selves. I went to a 15 year highschool reunion recently and all the hot jocks were not as good looking as they were in highschool.early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:18 PM
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Even when she doesnt gain weight, he usually just takes her for granted but accepts the relationship doesnt feed his superficial ego. Majority of men are realistic and wont blow up a marriage over the feeling of dissatisfaction though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:17 PM
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You over exaggerate the amount of relationships that exist with such an age disparity. They are statistically rare and ones that last are even more statistically rare. Youre a Leonardo DiCaprio wannabe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:15 PM
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But you value your wife less and pretty much just use her for her other qualities while yearning for other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:12 PM
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You are trying to find logic in Red Pill...just stop. There is no logic. Well really the answer is Red Pill men either become Leonardo DiCaprio or they cheat on their wives once they turn 30. If they dont cheat they are miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:10 PM
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Also studies show women are financially worse off after divorce while men emotionally- kinda contradicts your women raping men theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:06 PM
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All that statistic proves is that women are indeed in charge of household management. The majority of divorces are BEHAVIORALLY initiated by men, but they are too lazy to petition the court first. You act like the men of this statistic are men that are getting served papers that been great husbands to their wives, are begging their wife to not divorce them (most actually are fine with it...they just wont petition first) and are actively trying to fix their marriage. Very small % fall into that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:03 PM
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Not me. Not trying to brag, but I do think Im one of the most happily married people in my social circle. Of the few female friends Ive had that have admitted they settled, they do not care. They say its going well but thats because they do not care they settled. Why dont they care? All of these women are the types of women that cannot be alone, dont enjoy dating and filtering through men (they are flabbergasted when I describe all of my past dating encounters) and are the types that would rathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:56 PM
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Yes exactly. Women arent willing to settle because we dont need relationships to survive. Men havent picked up the slack. They think having a financially stable job is enough (even though they expect women to be financially stable now and to have a long list of other traits) Women nowadays in particular are expecting men to bring more socially and emotionally to the table (which men havent always done and will always expect women to bear the brunt of this) and they cannot handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:50 PM
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Its because Western men who are in search of high quality women arent high quality themselves. They are delusional about their self worth. Western men who are actually high quality (attractive, hard worker, compassionate, protector/listener) have no issues finding a quality partner. Men like this are extremely rare and thus, they have the pick of the litter for the best women in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:49 PM
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"In shape guy who works multiple jobs to support his wife and treats her like a best friend - she brings loving mental and physical companionship and a well taken care of home" I am a Western woman and this is my marriage to a Western man. Only difference is my husband works extremely hard at one job (instead of multiple) to offset me working part time to care for a child with minor medical needs. Also, most of my married friends in my closest social circle are like this too...you can find it in…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:47 PM
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providing, protecting, problem solving for women is not enough The majority of American men cannot do that LOL. They are man children.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:44 PM
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This post is weird. The Eastern European female friends Ive had are among the harshest critics of looks I have ever met and some of the most appearance focused commenters Ive interacted with. Its probably because obesity and just being overweight is not common where they are from. Some of these people even say rude things to American women who are at a healthy weight but are simply busty or have large hips too because being curvy is somewhat genetic and there are less curvy people where they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:42 PM
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Any woman who doesnt do the things you listed in your post will have a hard time dating. Im actually friends with females like this- they roll out of bed and just brush their hair and teeth. They dont style their hair, they dont wear makeup, they wear plain nonfashionable clothes. Even the women who are just naturally thin like this with a good personality have a hard time dating. One of my old roommates is like this and she got very very little male attention. Why? Its because women like you de…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:26 PM
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I overheard growing up people telling my brother that you have to sleep with a girl early or she loses interest in you. Meanwhile, I rejected men that pressured me too quickly for sex that I actually did genuinely like outside of their pressuring. I dont regret it because we simply werent compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:22 PM
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Ahhh you have a lower bar for sexually satisfying then. Yeah, this guy was super immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:13 PM
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I used OLD apps extensively for almost a decade, from ages 20-28, even though I hated it. I did it because I had to to meet people (most of my friends were introverted and in serious relationships, I work in a female dominated field and wasnt open to dating co workers anyway, I dont like bars/clubs) I hated it because it was a pressure cooker for getting to know someone and also it has major disadvantages to getting to know someone. If you compare the men I dated who I met organically to the maj…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:55 PM
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There are alot of other legal benefits of marriage. It would take me too long to type all of them...and yes, you can do most of them without marriage but its a lot of work. For me, I like marriage for social and emotional reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:49 PM
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I mean most people, men and women, are serial monogamists today but I think its more once the honeymoon phase wears off- typically between 1-3 years of dating- people do not want to work for their relationship and rather just get a "new thing."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:48 PM
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Yeah I dated men who thought like you and I passed on dating them. I actually once rejected an extremely distant co worker who I otherwise liked ( a co worker who worked for a company my company occasionally interacted with, but I never directly worked with him ) because he thought like you. He got mad and complained about me to anyone who would listen at work. I told him repeatedly I wouldnt be able to sexually satisfy him and he focused way too much on sex for my values. I didnt want to date s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:38 PM
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But in that "lets see where this goes" attitude, which is a pretty vague statement, are you open to a relationship with the person assuming you like them? That isnt casual sex or at least it isnt to me. Yes, sexually compatibility is important but its one part of the puzzle, I am also assessing the person on other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:07 PM
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I agree with your statement- chemistry, common goals/morals/values/lifestyle is more important. Peoples interests change over time anyway and I always pick up new interests while in relationships. "Just be yourself" is overrated. Sure, this is great for someone who is a catch emotionally, mentally and physically. But sadly, many people need to instill more self improvement values and are self absorbed. This is bad advice for self centered, mean spirited and shallow people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:11 PM
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I'd be fine with it. I'd actually probably wouldnt want to date him though...men who take women on very extravagant dates as a first date tend to do it because 1) theyre insecure and overcompensating 2) because they want sex at the end of the night and view it as a transaction 3) they are the type who is rich and sees women as golddiggers. (Unlike most women you describe on here, I'm turned off by men who make significantly more than me and it disrupts the power balance) Most of the men I know w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:08 PM
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For me, casual sex means you know you dont want a relationship with the person and you still want to have sex with them. Going on 6 dates with someone, enjoying them and thinking "oh if this continues I'd like to be in a relationship with them" then sleeping with them as part of the natural progression...and then 2 dates later seeing a red flag or side of them you dont like (happened to me frequently with OLD) then you decide to stop seeing them...that isnt casual sex to me. Going on a date with…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:03 PM
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There are different types of intelligence, but what you are describing in your post doesnt seem to be due to that. So my answer is no.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:01 PM
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You could reverse this for genders and its the same. People want those that THEY want to show interest in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:59 PM
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Exactly, theres no point in giving up video games. Men get into relationships then take advantage of their partner and abuse video games while expecting their partner to deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:41 PM
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Weird All the people I know that like to travel dont post much on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:59 AM
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Yes, it does. If women werent sexual objects, OF wouldnt exist and thirsty pictures on social media wouldnt work. When men stop being desperate and thirsty, these things go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:53 AM
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If the evidence is obvious they absolutely deserve it. It depends because the legal system isnt great.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:50 AM
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This question is beyond stupid. Many men IN RELATIONSHIPS prioritize video games over their partner...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:49 AM
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No, many men ignore their partners for video games. Go to the subreddit /r/beyondthebump So many posts of new parents where the mother is overwhelmed caring for an infant/newborn/toddler and their male partner just wont stop playing video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:47 AM
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LOL. I love this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:47 AM
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It would if you took the energy you spent on games to improve yourself in other ways and to go out and meet women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:46 AM
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I dont treat people differently based on the way they look. I am highly attracted to people who have strong character, for both platonic and romantic, rels, when I realize someones character isnt too great I back off. I actually was kind of known in my younger years for befriending people who were outcasts. I never really did it on purpose (or even realized I was doing this until someone bluntly pointed it out) I did it though because I noticed kids who were outcasts tended to have better charac…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:35 AM
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What if the girl isnt naturally trusting? You know there are some jaded girls who think its weird when a man actually acts interested in them as a person?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:32 AM
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This. I've vetted a few Red Pill minded men in my 20s doing this. Their toxic views on relationships always came out at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:30 AM
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Yes, you need to pass a looks test to be with your partner but needing to exercise for an hour everyday is overkill. Whenever I dated and found out a man exercised that much, it almost always was a red flag because it 99% of the time meant they were WAY too into women's looks. All the men I dated except for one who exercised that amount were way too superficial (and much later, critical of my looks once their guard eventually came down)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:28 AM
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LOL, I used OLD apps for almost 10 years. I dated so many men who made comments I was the more attractive one (I didnt really agree- I also use a pass/fail system and not rating because Im not obsessed with looks unlike men- but others outside of our rel would comment on it too) I never had a problem with this. Like I said- pass/fail on looks, then personality and character is the most important. Actually, most men failed the personality and character part.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:24 AM
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Delusional men who are 4-6ish at best thinking they are settling for a woman who is a 6 or 7 is RAMPANT on OLD apps. The worst part is they think a 6 or 7 is a 4-6 like them...LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:22 AM
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Yep. Go to the askmen subreddit and look at answers to the varying questions of "why are you single" the honest answer of "Im ugly but only attracted to women out of my league" always gets the most upvotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:20 AM
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No men expect you to be having hobbies, social life nor emotional support, this is what women expect from men. What planet do you live on? Being on the thinner side is the bare minimum of looks standards for women. Men have specific body types and body shapes they prefer and very few women have it with little to no work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:44 AM
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Im a weirdo. I prefer to get dumped than to dump someone and dont enjoy rejecting people. I am a nice person, I have too much empathy and dont like making others feel bad about themselves (unless they are really rude to me, then I dont care) I have found when I have rejected perfectly fine men politely they often take it personally and I hate seeing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:45 AM
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Thats because you cherry pick your studies. It affects men too. High n count men dont fall in love and become bonded securely to just one woman for the rest of their life. Studies for both sexes show the more history of casual sex the more likely you are to divorce. A high n count man is a liability, its the same the way men view high n count women. This forum greatly exaggerates the differences between men and women when it really comes down to the individual. Sorry to burst your egotistical fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:38 AM
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Its likely youre more mature and just better at relationships now. Alot of men in their 20s are emotional shitshows and have ZILCH emotional intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:34 AM
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I took this approach with dating simply because I need time to feel comfortable enough to have sex with someone and I havent ran into major issues finding a guy to wait 2-3 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:31 AM
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LOL men willing to wait for a low n count woman...dear god you are out of touch with reality...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:25 AM
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OP, I dated alot in my 20s and literally this never turned me off. 90% of the time when a guy was like this it was because he was busy anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:23 AM
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So basically you're an average woman? Thats what is expected of women: keep your body, keep your 40 hour a week financially contributing job, keep up your energy for a social life/hobbies/emotional support of your husband, do house chores (probably more than your fair share)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:21 AM
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No it doesnt mean that. Go to the divorce subreddits here and people describing growing apart doesnt mean what youre thinking. Its two people losing their emotional connection over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:20 AM
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No, alot of women dont like high n count men because we dont value casual sex. Smart women also know high n count men are emotionally damaged and not really all that capable of true love. There are so many studies showing the more people someone sleeps with the less they can pair bond. High count men cannot pair bond through sex so theyre essentially worthless for a LTR. Theres no point in having consistent sex with a person who doesnt care and doesnt bond through it. They just see women as hole…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:15 AM
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All men can get casual sex consistently. The problem is y'all are too introverted and too picky for it. You're also too low effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:12 AM
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Yep and this reply confirms that Chads make terrible LTR partners. If you can easily rebound from a LTR like you state, then you werent really ever into the person. I dont think Chads are really emotionally capable of being "in love" I'd rather someone less emotionally damaged than a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:10 AM
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Its the same for both genders- it depends on the person
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:08 AM
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Exceptions dont make the rule. You're an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:07 AM
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These men live in La La Land. I did OLD apps extensively for 10 years and rarely had a guy do that, not a single one 5 star. Even ones that call me hot. They take 1% of dating interactions and generalize it to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:06 AM
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The problem with your argument is that the vast majority of custody cases are decided OUTSIDE of court where the father agrees for the mother to have more than 50% custody. Most men who want 50% custody and dont live far away never tried through the court system.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:04 AM
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Yeah its not in her head. I 100% agree with her list and when Ive slacked in any of these areas (because you know I am a human being and I cannot be perfect 100% of the time) Im called out on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:03 AM
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They dont say it out loud to people...they communicate it when they are dating/in relationships and when rejecting and choosing women they see as a catch or worthy of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:02 AM
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Yep. My friends who live in NYC who are more normal values had a very hard time dating there. Same with LA. They had no issues dating other places.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:59 AM
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I agree with this replier except it only applies to young and dumb people. I met older people who are quite mature in other ways but when it comes to dating and the opposite sex, they are very immature. Some people dont grow up. One of my cousins in his 40s is like this, he got married recently but only because he felt he had to. A huge thing this forum leaves out is attachment patterns- disorganized, secure, avoidant, insecure, etc. That is a big driver of dating behavior and many adults have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:57 AM
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Its not really soft- they just dont have character. They usually lean towards being selfish, entitled, "my way or the highway" lack empathy etc. God I dont miss dating at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:33 AM
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It depends on the illness and severity. As someone who worked with disabled individuals for many years, I agree with you on SOME illnesses and their severity. But those people qualified for government assistance and are SEVERE cases. Many people nowadays have quite mild mental illness and are not mentally incompetent at all and it doesnt really affect them enough for you to justify your statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:09 AM
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-One without any stimulating conversation. He doesnt need to be Einstein and know everything, but someone I can just talk to about a decent amount of topics. Doesnt need to be deep intellectual stuff either. -No interest in doing different things. Im introverted and love routine, but even I need to do something different once in awhile. My standard for this is pretty low. -This is the biggest one: I cant be my goofy and random self. This is actually one of the biggest requirements for a relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:06 AM
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Majority of the people here are damaged, searching for an excuse to explain their misery that makes them look good and lashing out. I find this forum to be comedy relief personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:04 AM
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Ive noticed short men are more assertive (sometimes too much so, lol) but I actually appreciate that. Notice I said assertive and not arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:02 AM
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Its because alot of men are inferior. They lack basic traits to make a relationship decent but expect their woman to be overly decent. This worked in the past because women needed relationships to survive. Not the case anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:59 AM
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Yep, then they get mad when women say theyre crap. *insert laughing face*
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:57 AM
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No, its incompatibility issues easily and one person being too selfish to let go. They like the benefits of the person even though they dont want them forever. Sometimes the other person wants them forever and the user knows that. They dont care because theyre selfish. I was once in a relationship where I started to figure out it wasnt going to work for the long haul around 9 months. Since Im the kind of person who tries everything before I break up with someone, I tried for the next 3 months to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:56 AM
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All men can, you just need to go out and mingle and not be so dang picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:53 AM
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Yeah PPD has no concept of grey...its all black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:19 PM
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This is the same for men too. Alot of times what men tell me they want, they dont or they dont certainly value it. I see alot of men on here say they just want a normal kind gal who doesnt need to be hot, like they are so virtuous, and yet men get those kind of women all the time and then take advantage of them/act like they can do better. Also, many men I dated would say they valued certain traits but then would later complain I had those traits. One complained about a clingy ex, yet he complai…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:15 PM
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I actually agree with yours OP. This is similar to yours...but I find it way easier to be friends with the average male than the average female. I have very good female friends now, so its not that I can't be friends with women, but numbers-wise, its easier for me to make friends with men than women. I find women tend to be petty (disliking others for very stupid reasons), catty, more manipulative, more likely to try to compete with me and turn it into a jealous frenemy situation, and I think fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:55 PM
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I think they viewed me as "not good enough" and a liability. Even though our income differences werent super dramatic. (Example: at the time of one of these men, I made around 55-60k and he made 90k ish)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:47 PM
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Everyone I talk to thinks not shaving is weird, and if they say "You dont have to do it" They never choose a partner who doesnt do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:30 AM
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Can you READ? THAT DOESNT CHANGE YOUR GENES.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:26 PM
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Ding ding ding. I wish women working and men doing their fair share of housework progressed equally at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:53 PM
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Feminism is for equality, not power. Though I could see how equality is threatening to men, it means they dont have all the power anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:52 PM
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Ive dated many men who make more than me (easy because I work in an overeducated overworked and underpaid field) Alot of them looked down on me even though my field requires more patience and education than theirs. Its actually one of the reasons I preferred men who didnt make alot more than me financially when I dated. Alot of these men use it against women later on not just in being condescending but to get out of housework and basic relationship skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:51 PM
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Women are expected to -never age and be more attractive than their partner. Their partner can age and let themselves go and its normal -work like they dont have kids and parent like they dont work -do all the housework and childcare on top of working, yet never resent their husband for it and still have enough time for hobbies and energy for pornstar sex -be the more emotionally intelligent, mature and thoughtful partner. Women are held to higher social and emotional standards. Women are expecte…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:49 PM
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You can get a job. Overweight women cannot magically erase their genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:23 PM
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Everybody has different values. Some men get married to the first girl who shows interest then divorce because they need to screw around. I also know men who are married to the person they lost their virgnity to and are happily married. It really depends on the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:18 PM
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Men Ive dated or been around talking freely who have options say women who are low n count will become clingy or will be bad in bed...have heard it many times...average male today doesn't like n count
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:11 PM
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I worked with people who have disabilities for 5 years as a social worker and most of them dated other people who also had disabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:20 PM
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My now husband did this. I asked about it. Turns out his ex was materialistic and required it. Gifts was her love language. I am a simple woman and could care less. Quality time and touch is my love language. Then I moved on in approximately .03 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:13 PM
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Ive actually had this happen and I ask about the circumstances, then dont get mad. Women like this, who have brains and are level headed, arent rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:13 PM
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Also people sleep WAY quicker with people theyve known for awhile before dating, like friends, than people on OLD apps. Which makes sense...because you barely know someone after 3 dates on OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:12 PM
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Men: She must put out by dates 3-6 or I next her. She must be attractive too. Also men: I haTe WoMEn wHo HAvE hiGH n CoUnTS. ShE CaNNoT gET aTTEnTiOn fROm oThEr MEn wHILe I dATE hER eItHER. This forum is pure comedy for me. So basically...she has to be attractive, which means she will get attention from other men. She must NOT sleep with these other men early but be oh so willing to drop her panties quickly for them because theyre "SO SPECIAL" and an exception. If she doesnt do this, oh wait, sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:09 PM
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I know right? I have a longer and more complicated relationship with my Brita water filter than 3 dates with a guy I met off of an OLD app. When I did OLD, the initial dates were short. So Im expected to sleep with someone I've known maybe 7 or 8 hours total...yikes. Ive never done that before, even with guys I was quite attracted to, and I thank the lord for that. Also, the sex would be awful because I wouldnt have been comfortable. -Me, an apparent prude who OOPS wait always had the higher sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:06 PM
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Very false. If you marry under the age of 25 you are 4x more likely to divorce. Statistically speaking people who marry in their 30s are least likely to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:05 PM
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How do you know she changed the rules? Do you ask her about her past sexual behavior? I did a shit ton of dating in my 20s, only one man directly asked me (and he was very insecure+egotistical)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:03 PM
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....most men on OLD apps? Extremely rare to find one who would commit that early.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:01 PM
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You can be a feminist and still value traditional relationships. Feminism is the belief other women can do what they want while you do what you want. For instance, many of my SAHM friends think women should be able to work like men, but they personally didnt want to work with little kids. You also dont know the REASONING behind some relationship choices. A lot of feminist and traditional relationships dissected on here are actually set up for practical reasons in everyday life and arent due to "…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:54 PM
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Overweight woman. According to male forums I lurk, men find it a turnoff if a woman has EVER been overweight (they believe she will easily go back to that if she loses weight and she will pass along overweight genes to their kids if they have any) So shes pretty much damaged goods. In todays economy especially, its not uncommon to be broke and you can always get a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:49 PM
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Be careful with this one. I dated alot in my 20s and Ive been wrong. Once dated a handsome, sociable, extroverted guy who seemed a bit superficial later on and he made me wait for sex. Said he only slept with 1 girl and he needed sex to be "special" An average looking, introverted, sometimes kinda unpleasant guy had a long history of casual sex (turn off for me, he volunteered the info though) and I would have never guessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:47 PM
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N count also makes no sense. I care about the circumstances of the sex as it indicates sexual values. A guy with a count of 10 but they were all girlfriends or he was dating them hoping it to turn into something is WAY better than a guy with 4 but all the women he viewed as casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:46 PM
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If someone only uses OLD apps to date and doesnt date in their social circle, it is so easy to lie. I dont think Ive ever asked a man's n count and have only had one guy ask for mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:44 PM
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I may be biased, but I find my husband quite hot and he had no issues committing to me. Our daughter is extremely cute, also not biased there. Normal, common men satisfy women. They satisfy certain TYPES of women. Alot of men are interested in these types of women. Maybe because they arent usually knockout beauties. I did alot of dating in my 20s and I chose 2. It worked out well for me. Got married when I was 30.5, pregnant at 32. Im 34 and trying for my second.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:45 AM
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90% of men on here who complain average women dont like them overshoot on looks. I used to go through user histories of men who would state this, and many of them had past comments rating clearly above average women as average. But no amount of convincing them would let them see this girl as actually above average...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:43 AM
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You all are so weird. I would in NO WAY consider a 5 ft 11 man short and I wouldnt even know the difference between 5 ft 11 and 6 ft looking at a guy. No f***ing clue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:41 AM
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Yeah men totally overshoot for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:40 AM
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These average guys are an inch UNDER 6 foot, has a nice pleasant non offensive face but ISNT defined or angular or particularly masculine in his features, earns maybe a bit more than the standard guy but ISNT RICH, and has a fit healthy body but ISNT MUSCULAR or athletic. NOPE. WRONG. As someone who dated extensively for 10 years before meeting my husband in 2016. My definition of average is: -under 5 ft 10 (probably a range of 5 ft 7 to 5 ft 10...not sure as despite what men on here say I never…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:38 AM
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PEOPLE do this. Ive met MANY men who pick ill natured women and nobody tells these men they need to "pick better" I think men are also turned off by weakness. There is a sizable portion of the population that quite frankly has baggage and attachment problems mostly from their childhood. Thats why this sort of things usually happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:32 AM
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Yep. Men have very high standards (though they dont perceive it that way, they are entitled) while the women shouldnt have high standards/are demonized for having the same standards as men. It paid off for me though. I have an awesome husband and Ive met very few women as happily married as me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:29 AM
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No studies show it bud. Hey why dont you hop off of here and enroll yourself in therapy? You need it desperately. You give off mass shooter vibes honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:24 AM
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Man keep clinging to this stat man (where you exaggerate) I guess you dont speak English so lets repeat this: ONLY 10% of divorces award alimony (and guess why its usually given to women?? OHHHH thats right WOMEN are the ones expected to sacrifice their careers...or stupid men could just refuse a SAHM situation...it aint hard...learn to just pick better...oh wait only women are expected to pick better, not men, since women are socially superior to men)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:22 AM
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Yep, its the same reason why men justify sleeping around or "sowing their seed" OOPS wait evolutionary excuses only work for men, not for women. Even when the women's excuses have just as much scientific weight as men's excuses. I forgotsies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:18 AM
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That because the vast majority of men dont ask for it. The vast majority of custody cases are determined OUTSIDE of court (which is the mans choice too btw, he can go to court at any time) where the man ALLOWS the woman to have more custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:17 AM
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The majority of couples are evenly matched in looks and socioeconomic status when they marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:15 AM
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Most couples are evenly matched in looks and socioeconomic status when they marry. Thats the problem with your argument. You generalize outliers to all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:14 AM
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So sad, you'll have to get your bangmaid some other way I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:13 AM
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You do realize most couples that get married are in the same socioeconomic status? The income difference between couples where both work full time is usually not very big. Its pretty rare to have drastic income differences without one person before a temporary stay at home parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:12 AM
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Studies repeatedly show women fare worse financially after divorce, while men fare worse emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:08 AM
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All of the men I know who do this couldnt judge a good woman from their butt. They are just fearful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:08 AM
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Mehhh I know several very lazy men like she describes that have SO's. They usually have other things to contribute though (actually several of them are SAHDs)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:06 AM
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My husband works in a job that requires the highest level security clearance and can be quite stressful. None of his mistakes lead to people dying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:05 AM
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OK...ignoring this user after he says "women coming home to do household chores and duties" is an absurd claim. He should start writing for The Onion
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:04 AM
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Men work and then come home and do nothing. Women work and then come home and do unpaid work. In sociology this is called "second hypothesis shift" it actually is a major contributor to divorces. When one person is having more free time and is "grinding" as you put it more, they build resentment. They also dont have energy to upkeep their own mental and physical health. At my last job all the working moms were the most frazzled people Ive ever met for both work and nonwork (I work in a field sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:01 AM
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No, the effects are the same when both people work 40 hours a week. No one with half a brain thinks 25 hours a week if comparable to 80 hours a week. I also know VERY few people who work physically demanding jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:00 AM
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It should continue to be that way too since these same men expect women to sacrifice their careers to raise their kids and upkeep their home. Also, the same men still expect women to do most of the childcare and housework even when shes working full time like him. DUH women expect men to provide more in these situations. We are supposed to be the breadwinner AND still do everything else? What woman would sign up for that? (Sad thing is studies show that is true- women are becoming breadwinners m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:59 AM
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The older a woman is when she marries the less likely a couple is to divorce (DUH older people pick better life partners) Older women tend to make more money, just like men. So I dont buy this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:57 AM
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No, only women are told to "pick better" (which is your argument) since women are held to higher social standards than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:56 AM
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Men are more selfish on average and they are less productive domestically. I dont think its "in their nature" I think society lets them get away with it. Its the reason studies show married women are unhappier than single women yet the reverse for men. LTR's in general are alot more work for women in terms of household management, family work, emotional and mental labor plus physical and emotional expectations on the whole. Women bear the brunt of it whilst in today's society being expected to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:47 PM
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I dated extensively in my 20s for nearly a decade, to the point of burnout. I found ALL men (literally all of them whether they were very cute, average looking, social, introverted, struggling financially or not) expected this of me: -to meet their looks standards. For some men, their standards were too high and they really wanted a woman out of their league physically. -to be financially stable and to not rely on them financially at all. -to be social when I needed to be (such as attending part…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:38 PM
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Yep expecting to find a man easily who met standards that all men expected of me instantly was indeed too idealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:35 PM
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I call myself an "average woman" and people tell me the same thing..."you need to work on your confidence" Like no I am very confident that I am average because I am average LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:34 PM
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Itd be better for you to just date someone who makes the same amount of money as you if its that important. But Im sure you're one of those unintelligent men that gets a woman then tries to change her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:19 PM
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So now women will work MORE than 40 hours a week and STILL do the majority of childcare, housework and planning? No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:04 PM
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Yep, this is why I was convinced I would never marry but I eventually found one of the few rare good ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:01 PM
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Yes. My brother has had some similar struggles to me though. My brother is a way better man than most on here though. He would find you all abhorrent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:34 PM
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Well I guess men dont love women because if a man was doing 60% he absolutely would complain. Heck most complain when it is 50/50 because they want the woman to do more than 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:33 PM
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Women dont care about the pregnancy and birth and postpartum costs. We would just be satisfied with 50/50 (or close to it because tracking it that closely is mentally exhausting) with planning, childcare and housework and house management. Also, men being held accountable for "letting themselves go" the way women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:32 PM
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There is an increasing % of women choosing to have children without being married. Because they never met the right one to have a traditional nuclear family. Theres a subreddit on here for it. Im not in that situation but I think its great as long as the woman is financially set.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:30 PM
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1/3rd of marriages in American involve the woman being the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:24 PM
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Yes. Any man who doesnt think this is a manchild.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:22 PM
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You do realize many fields of work have a cap on how much money you make?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:22 PM
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Sad fact is this happens so much. Many lower cost jobs are actually more stressful too, so they cannot even use stress as a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:21 PM
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Im happily married so this is when I was younger. I was never into "bad boys" and actually found a sizable portion of kind guys I liked didnt like me back or like me enough. Alot of them went for dominant, bitchy women. I dont have a specific type physically so cannot comment on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:19 PM
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I don’t know how women feel, but I’ve heard a lot that women struggle with feeling “good enough”. In the past I struggled with this and struggled with balancing expectations. Things Ive struggled with -working like I dont have kids but treat my family including kids like I dont work (biggest struggle right now as a mom of a toddler who works in a field very negatively impacted by COVID where people have quite high expectations of me) -be pretty enough but not so pretty you're intimidating or see…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 08:05 PM
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Your waist is 30 inches? Thats definitely too big for the ideal that the average man desires (typically 26 inches or less...) if he could choose a woman by a physical size. D Cup doesnt mean much... To be a true hourglass you need .7 difference for both waist to breast size and then waist to hip size, plus your shoulders need to be in line with your hips. Around 5% of women naturally have that shape, the overwhelming majority lean towards pear shaped, probably for childbearing reasons. Im sure y…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:51 PM
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I highly doubt it. I have spoken to many women on the Internet who claim they do but when they tell me their measurements, they are good but still not quite good enough. And even if you do, youre a rarity so go take your bragging elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:46 PM
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No, its because there are a certain % of men that view most women as attractive or are so thirsty they see every woman as a hole. Having an hourglass curvy figure will require most women to have surgery, dont agree its an easy thing to achieve. VERY few women naturally have that body shape and its genetic. The majority of women naturally have a pear shaped body. Men want "some boobs and bum" with a flat cinched in waist...VERY few women have the natural proportions that men would deem as attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:40 PM
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I took this approach OP and its THE reason why it took me so long to find my husband. Being able to have conflict, discuss it maturely and then work to resolve the actual conflict eliminates over 90% of my exes. And this is after when I had to search for basic compatibility too like humor, shared values, goals, etc. Its one of the reasons why my marriage is one of the better ones in my social circle. My female friends did not look at overall emotional capability and conflict resolution when choo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:37 PM
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Come live and date in and near DC. Men judge women for low paying jobs all the time, they do not want to take on the burden of a woman who cannot provide for herself financially. Men do not want to be the sole provider here. Maybe its because of the cost of living, as a man youd have to make an insane amount of money to marry a woman like that. But its more than that, she is seen as "lazy" and men view lazy women negatively. Women are seen as lazy for not working full time 2 years after they hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 04:30 PM
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Depending on how stressful/time consuming the job is, women can work full time and have a great family. It depends on the job and her support. Marriages that are 50/50 in this are ideal to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 04:06 PM
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If I had to pick one thing I'd say selfishness and lack of reciprocity in the relationship for the majority of them (effort, treatment) I dont think it was just "that they werent into me" because they did it with women after me and also with other people around them (but I didnt start seeing that until 3-6 months into the rel) Other reasons: -lying, deceit, lack of loyalty. SO many exes with inappropriate contact with their exes but they'd freak out if I did the same. -overall too immature. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 04:00 PM
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I mean this applies to the other gender too. I have had many female friends do what you describe. Ive also had men do to me what you describe when I open up to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:55 PM
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Im dying reading your post. I did OLD extensively, to the point of burnout, for almost 10 years before I met my husband and the #1 thing I DO NOT MISS about OLD dates is the sheer quantity of men who were very poor conversationalists and never asked any questions about me or showed any interest in me in general. So many dates I cannot even give you a ballpark number where its a huge waste of time. If Im not attracted to someone on a date, I can still make a friend or have a good time, that is my…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:53 PM
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Sounds like you are only attracted to materialistic women. Non materialistic women exist (although they wont spend as much time on their appearance which is why they are invisible to you)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:50 PM
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Not just attractive, but for those who have personality, character, common sense and heres a big one I have a feeling alot of men here SEVERELY lack: emotional intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:47 PM
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No they arent, they'd make fun of her for working at McDonalds and she would just be a forever girlfriend. She would be seen as a liability and not marriage material. I see this in my social circles. Its not the 1950s anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:46 PM
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No. Dating sucks for both genders because of the world we live in and the types of people that exist in this world. Ive been screwed over, used and insulted by so many female friends I know there are good men out there jaded because they came across many females like that. I dont need to make a fake app to get this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:44 PM
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I had this same experience too. When I started first doing OLD I politely rejected people because I thought that was better than ghosting them, around 50-75% became hostile and argued with me or just started insulting me. Around 25% took it well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:43 PM
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You are the average PPD man and I bet your 4 out of 10 woman definitely isnt a 4. I have been roommates for years on end with ACTUAL 4's and there is no way on this Gods Green Earth they got 7 good quality matches right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:39 PM
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"I've came to the conclusion that women probably aren't attracted to people who have it all figured out under the impression they'd be very demanding partners" Ive dated people who I wouldnt consider losers but definitely dont have it all figured out and they were very high maintenance, so no, not all women do this. I find most men are low effort with women in relationships and are high maintenance once they get comfortable enough though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:38 PM
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Yes it is
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:18 PM
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Yeah this I actually know several short girls who don't like 6 ft men. They have said the height difference can cause problems physically
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:38 AM
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FDS is the female equivalent of TRP. FDS is very big on self improvement and learning how to vet and select a nontoxic partner. FDS also does this for friendships too, not sure if TRP does that. People who say FDS doesnt do this dont actually consistently read there. But they do take their hate too far at times and likely will scare off the kind of man they say they want. Same for TRP. The only part of FDS that I personally liked and learned things from is the vetting partners part.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:58 AM
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This. Theres so many studies debunking TRP but they ignore those studies...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:32 AM
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If they are happily married they arent truly TRP material.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:31 AM
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Alot of women arent attracted to TRP men though...their strategies only work on certain types of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:28 AM
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The only thing I think TRP is good for (and honestly, Female Dating Strategy is the female equivalent) is teaching signs of a selfish, manipulative person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:27 AM
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What if the person giving the recommendation has mental issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 09:15 PM
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One thing to keep in mind with "preselection" in your social group is the quality of your social group. A married couple I was friends with for about 10 years (and actually stopped being friends with them a few years ago because the wife was a not nice person and took me for granted over time) set me up with a guy they knew but since both of them lack emotional and social intelligence they did a poor job of prescreening. The husband kinda half hearted admitted later that he knew the guy had some…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 08:22 PM
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Me too for my husband. Its not needed but its nice because I always hated being in relationships where my boyfriend couldnt socialize adequately with my friends and family. It was stressful. (Pretty much all men feel this way about girlfriends- its expected women to be able to do this so I dont feel bad for it).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 08:20 PM
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If a man is standoffish or even rude to a woman, how likely is she still going to be attracted to him just because he has been preselected by another woman? This depends on the woman. Some like rude men due to unhealthy attachment patterns. For me, its a turnoff no matter what his other qualities are/who else likes him. I had this happen in a past social circle- all the women liked this one guy who was conventionally attractive and successful and looked past his rudeness. I didnt and I was the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 08:17 PM
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Thats interesting- all of the women I know that participate in casual sex do not pick handsome guys and I dont think its because they cant pull any.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 07:34 PM
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Yeah most couples are evenly matched with socioeconomic status and in fact, around 1/3rd of married American couples the woman makes more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 07:34 PM
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Knowing what you are doing in the bedroom has nothing to do with your sexual history. Ive slept with virgin men who were way better sexually than men (who I later found out, because I wouldnt ever knowingly sleep with one) who are manwhores. Being good at sex involves communication, figuring out what your partner likes and doing it, and not having sexual dysfunction problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 07:15 PM
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Good luck finding that perfect unicorn who has all the best traits and none of the other bad traits that come associated with the best traits. Selfishness...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 07:13 PM
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I love your flair
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 07:12 PM
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These men arent doing that Patient-Exit. They arent men interested in you as a person, interested in possibly becoming committed if it continues and goes well...they JUST want sex. Yes, before becoming official sexually compatible is important. That doesnt mean you have to sleep with someone where its clear he only wants you for sex. And most women need to know someone longer than theyve known their Brita Water Filter before sleeping with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 07:10 PM
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I did OLD apps for almost a full decade before meeting my now husband and I frequently had men complain I didnt answer them right away during the day WHEN I WAS WORKING. Today's society is for sure "instant gratification" and too addicted to their phones.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 07:08 PM
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Yeah alot of men are crap in bed. It requires communication and learning what your partner likes and its a two way street. Alot of men aint about that life. Youre just a hole and masterbation tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 05:00 PM
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There arent many men looking for a woman like that- thats my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 03:44 PM
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No, men are just harsher and pickier when it comes to rating the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 03:42 PM
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Huh, so yes, you have a very *specific* preference for sex, so you are high maintenance and not as easy-to-please as you think. The girl if she doesnt move is a starfish, if she doesnt move the right way shes annoying, but she has to move in the very specific way that YOU want or else shes bad in bed. Are you KIDDING me OP with writing that men are easier to please???? Men: I am SO EASY to please in bed. Men are SO much easier. Also men: Shes gotta move her hips just this way, shes gotta move he…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 03:40 PM
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The average man would find this to be a turnoff. Luckily for us, most men IRL arent RedPill like the abhorrent men in this forum. Also alot of RedPill men actually arent traditional- they just pick the parts of traditionalism that benefit them while also picking the parts of feminism that benefit them (mostly not needing the pressure to be a sole provider)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 02:30 PM
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LOL, but then when it doesnt work out or she doesnt do something you like, ShES a GolDdIgGER and SheS uSinG Me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 02:28 PM
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Hmmm...nope not really. It depends on the person. I orgasm quite easily from hand/tongue action. Its not strenuous or difficult for the man. Alot of the men I have dated have very *specific* preferences that are strenuous. I have dated several men that take a LONG time to ejaculate from a handjob which they prefer with a very rough technique and honestly, it KILLED my hands. Also, some men state blowjobs only feel good with the woman is literally gagging nonstop and if I didnt do that, then its …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 02:26 PM
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I didnt assume either of those things. But your ratings on looks are very harsh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 02:14 PM
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I agree with this and its the same with any social issue. Yes, it may never go away completely but you should still try to make progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 04:32 AM
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Yes he is, the majority of men who post here are like this- selfish, hypocritical, lack self awareness, victim mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 04:31 AM
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I have no problem with talking about male dating issues. I do have a problem with men talking about dating issues that they say never happens to women and its only men as the victims, as 99.9% of the time that is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 04:30 AM
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You are plenty cute. You probably just havent met your match personality/energy/character wise. Edit: Im a nerd and if you messaged me on OLD I would have accepted a date with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 07:22 PM
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Well alot of men dont genuinely love women either. I see here men say women only love what men do for them/give to them and men do the same thing. No relationship is really unconditional (except maybe parent/child) Alot of men only love what women do for them and give to them. Lots of men divorce (or check out of but not officially divorce due to fear of financial/social reasons) their wives when she gains weight, ages, becomes ill and thus cannot do as much housework, childcare/cleaning/plannin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 07:17 PM
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Yep, dating average looking men (Ive seen pictures of men rated as average on this forum, some of them reminded me of my exes, lol) who are my height or at least an inch taller, who doesnt treat me like shit, who can hold a conversation, and who doesnt want the entire relationship to be about them and their needs...yep those are high standards. I mean...those were my standards in my 20s...on OLD apps good luck finding that as a woman! Edit: Did OLD apps extensively for 10 years before meeting my…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:50 PM
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She doesnt need to re evaluate. She lives in reality not the "Woe Is Me La La Land" that PPD men think exists but actually doesnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:46 PM
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1% of men are shorter than the average female in American (5 ft 4) Its easy for a man under 6 ft to find a woman shorter than him to date. Most women just dont want a man their height or shorter. Height is WAY overblown on here. The average male is overweight but wants a thin woman. Stop focusing on height and focus on weight instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:45 PM
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This. This replier understands the difference between heavy and clown. Men want a perfect face which is heavy " natural looking" makeup. They are oblivious to how much effort goes into this and then want a woman like this but feel tricked if she spends more than 5 minutes a day on makeup. No woman rolls out of bed with no makeup or 5 minutes of makeup looking this good (the picture on the left) Men: Women spend too much time on makeup, they trick us, they are decitful Also Men: (Woman has a natu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:39 PM
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Stay single and hold out for a better woman character wise- it may be your social circle at that time sucked. I know when I was young I had that issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:29 PM
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WOW...wow...this explains alot about your views...jeesh...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:22 PM
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If you are repeatedly rejected, you either are shooting for women too good for you, you arent meeting women compatible with yourself and you just havent tried long enough (finding a GOOD match is a numbers game and it definitely doesnt come easy for either gender)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:00 PM
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All of society constantly hammers in on young boys that if they are not having sex then they are losers. Well women routinely reject and mitigate the stress from society's expectations, so men should do the same. Just because society tells you so doesnt make it right. I resist the urge to focus heavily on my looks and try to look like a model everyday, I also resist the urge to be the "perfect mom" while working full time (2 things nailed into women over and over by society) Grow a backbone and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:55 PM
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I have dated several virgins and none of them told me upfront either, they sprung it on me months after dating. I care more about having dating experience than sex experience because sex can be learned and each guy is different anyway- men who havent dated at all tend to be so much work and you have to have the patience of a saint and often serve as a rehab center. One thing I did note though with male virgins- alot of men want to have sex with multiple women and even if the first woman they sle…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:51 PM
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Yeah, RedPill only works on certain women. It repels quality women. Good quality women I know with healthy self esteem leave men who follow their tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:48 PM
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OP I wish I could kiss you, because your post confirmed what every woman with half a brain cell who lurks here thinks. ​ The average PPD man thinks an above average woman is average. It explains alot of the venting, complaining and "woe is me" crap you see here from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:46 PM
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Stop arguing with these men, they are toxic AF. Thats why theyre here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:45 PM
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The women in this thread should look at this replier. He sums up what is wrong with the average PPD man here...he thinks above average women are just "average" So really, the men here are shooting out of their league, explains all their complaining. Good luck getting them to admit they do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:45 PM
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LOL you think B gets alot of matches off of OLD apps? You gotta be kidding me. One of my old roommates looks very similar to this gal and she was on OKCupid for the entire 2 years we lived together and got maybe 5 messages, 4 of the 5 which were "Hey" You live in LaLaLand where you're always the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:44 PM
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Red Pill attracts selfish men. Red Pill also attracts men who are only attracted to a certain kind of toxic woman (but they are oblivious to it, normal women who defy RedPill beliefs are invisible to them or not good enough for them) I believe Female Dating Strategy is the woman equivalent. Most people have befriended or dated a toxic person, but the average person learns from it and moves on without generalizing to every single person. Women in FDS are mostly attracted to toxic men and ignore t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:36 PM
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women saying the typical basic bitch complaints that "why im only into assholes, why all men are like that, bad boys are exciting", You are attracted to women like that. Theres plenty of women who arent, but you arent into those women. They are likely invisible to you. If you forced yourself to go on a date with a woman not like this you wouldnt be interested in her at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:33 PM
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they did exactly what they were told and despite of that got burned over and over? This happens to women constantly. This is just a fact of life, that life isnt fair and that doing what you are supposed to and being a good person doesnt return your investment. RedPillers just have a harder time with this than the average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:32 PM
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RedPill only works on a certain type of woman. You reap what you sow.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:31 PM
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4, 8, 9, 11, i could take or leave number 4 though Loyal, wanting kids and humor are very important to me. My current husband has these and it definitely is why I fell in love with him. Dont want a Hollywood looking man, I just want to be attracted to him. Alot of Hollywood or top tier looking men either spend too much time on themselves or enjoy alot of attention from other women. Very rare exceptions. Im a weirdo in that I prefer men who arent super wealthy. Most men who are do nothing but wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:18 PM
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Because they... -almost always tell me at some point -constantly talk about other women they find attractive -tell me what a great person I am and how its nice to have a female to be friends with they dont have to worry about sexual desire towards -date other women and they usually want me to be friends with those women or approve of them (the ones that dont do this I usually dont hear from again but its not because they struggle with being attracted to me) -come to me for advice if they are hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:11 PM
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I disagree. Especially in some places Ive lived, if I did that I would have had absolutely no friends ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:04 PM
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Go to sosuave.net They post sometimes horrific stuff about women, including hating women as justification for mass shooters, and no action has ever been taken against them. Theres plenty of other websites like that too but thats the main one that comes into my head. Theres no site like that for women. Heck, even a website that existed once called ihatemen.org (which was just a spot for venting really) got taken over by males and shut down Considering the average male doesnt seen women as people …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:00 PM
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Yes he is. He did this because he prefers a power imbalanced relationship and he was not going to find that here in the USA (how dare women want to be treated like an equal! We should continue to be your 1950's slave!!!) its misogynistic. I feel the same way with genders reversed too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:35 PM
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So? Theres a million and 1 places on the Internet like that for men. I dont like alot of the stuff they post, but in all fairness, it is one of the few places women can do that on the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:33 PM
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Ive friendzoned men most often because we arent compatible personality and values wise, its not always due to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:54 AM
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Most men do want a doormat though...this place is nothing like FDS btw. This forum leans more towards women hating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:51 AM
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This may go against what is taught, but if the person can listen to your communication and follow through on trying and if youre still physically attracted to him, the sex wont ever be bad
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:49 AM
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LOL I mean roles reversed thats most posts here too bud...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:44 AM
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No, I think its weird when they come to the USA too. One guy at my old church (who happens to be kinda misogynistic and egotistical) married a girl from overseas. She came to the USA 3 months before they married and they lived in separate houses until then. I find the whole thing weird and so do alot of people in my social circle. I actually like her as a person but if she lived here in circumstances not knowing this man existed I highly doubt she would have chosen him to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:43 AM
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That isnt heavy, that is "clown" makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:39 AM
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Weed out men who have an arbitrary 3 date rule. Don't sleep with men early
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 09:29 PM
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Most guys like heavy makeup done right. Heavy makeup done well...not to be confused with clown makeup...makes a 5 an 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 09:28 PM
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Tired hillbilly most men here can't be reasonable. Women are the enemy always with malicious intent. 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 09:27 PM
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Funny how most couples are average looking people together.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 09:26 PM
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The decent realistic guys I know usually aren't single for long.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:25 PM
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Most men don't want that much sex once the thrill is over and the intimacy level during the sex goes down. Women want these things more during relationship phases men during courting phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:23 PM
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I think women overall tend to be more loving and empathetic. Men just like what women give them (sex, attention and status boost). Women tend to look at their partners individual needs more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:23 PM
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Good luck finding a man to date on OLD who doesn't spend the dates talking about himself the whole time, they're rampant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:20 PM
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No, women bear the brunt of relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:19 PM
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No, that's extremely common with OLD. It's not considered low effort
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:18 PM
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Very few men plan dates consistently. You exaggerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:17 PM
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Lol OP. EVERYTHING you listed women deal with. PEOPLE don't put forth effort. There, I fixed it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:16 PM
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Hahaha you all are sad. I've been married 5 years and it's rare for me to have sex less than 3x a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 09:59 PM
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Okcupid in early 2016. Cute, humble, funny, intelligent. It felt right. Good and even better. Nope, we have a child with very minor medical needs so I reduced my hours for now but in a few years it's back to full time. We have similar financial habits. Not really but I don't work in a highly paid field in terms of income potential though i make enough. We have saved a good amount. Thank the everlasting lord he's not like men on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 09:50 PM
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Nope. You are another very critical PPD man who rates women on their looks harshly. You're a dime a dozen on here and the fact you're like this is why you're here. I bet all the money in my savings account what 100 other men rate as a 7 you'll say is a 4 or 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 09:44 PM
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It depends on the individual, but yes, this sometimes happen. Some women want security to elicit and explore their sexual arousal and some men rely on variety and novelty for sexual arousal. Im definitely the kind of woman who wants it more in a relationship but I think its more because Im comfortable then. Go to the deadbedroom subreddit here though and men wont agree with you. Its filled with men who have LTR women partners who wont have sex with them. There are some examples reversed genders …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 06:37 PM
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Oh nonono self reported studies that SUPPORT TRP are accepted, ones that go AGAINGST it arent...dont you know this by now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 05:27 PM
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Alot of studies arent criticized enough so I cannot take to heart any of this or really any post here using studies most of the time. For instance, many studies show men cheat more, some show women cheat more (these are cited constantly in the divorce subreddit here as it is mostly men) the most well conducted studies show genders cheat the same amount. Many studies show women do more childcare and housework, a few show men do, the best ones show women still do more but maybe not as much as you …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 05:26 PM
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LOL I went off birth control 3 years ago and dont feel I picked the wrong husband...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 05:20 PM
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Chads absolutely do not make women feel safe. Personally, that is their major downfall and one of the reasons I have never been interested in "Chads" (I dont really believe they exist based on their definition on this forum, hence my quotation marks). There is a lot more to liking someone than their looks and supposed dick size, and many Chads lack in those areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 04:31 PM
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No, I think it was that the girls actually did like them a little bit and they made women feel safe. Chads dont do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 04:10 PM
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No thats not feminism. Those are just selfish women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 04:10 PM
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At the individuals insistence. Ive never been pumped or dumped or knocked up, because I dont sleep around and I vet men. It aint hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 03:05 PM
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You do know there are principled people out there existing, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 03:00 PM
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Michelle Obama.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:58 PM
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It really depends on the person. Ive always made a guy wait but its because of my sexual values and because sex before I am comfortable is terrible for me. There is no one-size-fits-all answer for this. I have dated men who were on the same wavelength as me in terms of waiting, men who wanted to wait EVEN longer, and men who complained and used it against me. One of my exes said he preferred women who slept around. Another said it was a turn off that I seemed virtuous. Again- this depends on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:57 PM
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I agree with this. "A little bit" jealous is cute and a sign he cares. More than that is problematic though. My ideal mate is one who gets jealous but knows he is getting jealous and reigns it in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:55 PM
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They arent lying. Casual sex men are often terrible in bed. They dont care about your pleasure, you're just a hole to them. Theres more single mothers now because our world isnt "marry-who-you-knock-up" like my parents generation was.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:54 PM
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This. Most single people are single because our society is becoming more isolated. Also people are more stressed with work, education and finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:51 PM
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All the women I knew who did FWB's when I was younger picked average men. Alot of them I was like "why?"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:49 PM
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Plenty of interested women hold off on sex and it has nothing to do with a lukewarm interest in the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:49 PM
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I agree- in fact sexual compatibility is a huge factor in making a LTR work...it's better to find out early you are dating a man who refuses to do foreplay than have him meet your parents and then you're stuck with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:48 PM
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Nope, I was always the type to wait months for sex when dating someone and even men who knew my history expected me to sleep with them early. (beCauSe tHeYRE sO SpeCIAL)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:47 PM
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Too logical. But most men here want the benefits of everything without the consequences of those benefits on other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:46 PM
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Beauty is very very subjective- I agree with this for real life...though the men posting here do tend to be very harsh on rating women's looks. Ive also always been thin and called beautiful yet finding a long term match to treat me well was never easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 09:57 PM
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Yeah very few people choose to work less. Your relationship is an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 08:42 PM
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Awww this is so cute. Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:40 PM
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Ooooooooor you can opt out of dating idiots and vet men heavily before marriage and be realistic with what relationships require (alot men on PPD just want the relationship to be about them), then enter a good relationship with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:39 PM
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Ive asked this question a million times on here to repliers and never get an answer. I dated alot in my 20s and only once had a guy outright ask me how many men Ive slept with. How do they know if their dating partner slept with other men quickly and not them? Are women just volunteering it? Most people meet online and dont have mutual friends... So how do they know? Only one person answered and he made no sense...he said when the sex is weird he knows she did that *facepalm* I think alot of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:36 PM
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Your backpedaling is amusing. You meant what you said in your first reply. So, women have to sleep with you to keep you around but then they should just accept it when you pump and dump...gotcha. I have figured out why you're here. I disagree strongly that girls fall in love from just banging. But keep telling yourself that so you have a tool to hurt women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:34 PM
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I am married to a guy who did this. His ex fiance was an uptight bougie person though and required it...he is also more into me than her (for many reasons, including this one) I think it depends on the reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:28 PM
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I think you're confusing chivalry with just being nice/considerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:20 PM
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...that makes no sense. Sex can be weird for many reasons, and thats probably pretty low on the list for why...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:16 PM
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Someone who isnt anal about this is the type who rarely would dictate a 50/50 rule when their incomes are pretty different...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:15 PM
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Not a great example because Roy was a complete and utter jerk who gets no sympathy from the average person for Pam kissing Jim one time. If Roy was actually a good person to Pam it'd be a good example. Heck, if a woman treated Roy the way Roy treated Pam men would be all for cheating. I'd say Rashida Jones' character in the office (she was a great gal whose only fault was that she wasnt Pam, Jim was at fault for leading her on when he wasnt over Pam) was the best revenge. She married a doctor af…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:49 PM
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By healing and moving on. Then eventually finding a good partner. The best revenge is living a good life. Sounds cliche but its true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:47 PM
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As someone with many toxic uncles who have a strict 50/50 rule (with wives who make less money than them) you are right. Also my uncles expected their wives to not work for 8 years at all while their multiple kids were young (because apparently daycare is bad and not worth it) and they also won't necessarily pay for any extras. Their marriages are so toxic and literally everyone Ive met that has figured out this dynamic outside of my family roasts these men on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:31 PM
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Alot of men who think the women should do 50/50 on everything with dramatic income differences (rent, utilities) wont pick up the tab either or at least not consistently...so your past partner is not common. These men have 50/50 mindset because they dont want anyone to depend on them financially and this carries over into random purchases. Really, in order for the partnerships to not be toxic and unfair they just need to be with a woman who makes close to the same amount of money as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:27 PM
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When I lived with my now husband before marriage, we were in that situation. I made 60k, he made around 90k, both full time. He paid a little more than 50%, Im not sure how much, maybe 60 or 70%? but since he tended to work longer hours I did more housework and pretty much all of the cooking. Thats pretty normal...VERY few good paying jobs dont involve longer hours. My husband and I agree its the amount of hours someone works, not their pay, that determines chore division. I am glad we agree on …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:24 PM
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Its going to depend on the man and his values.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:20 PM
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No, as someone who did OLD apps and dated extensively through them for 10 years before meeting my husband, MANY average men are delusional. The amount of average men online with a blah personality, pretty introverted with a normal job, average looks, who do nothing but play video games and watch sports in their free time wanting a hot woman who is charismatic, interesting, has many hobbies and a social life and is financially stable so she cannot rely on him for income is astounding. If they don…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:54 PM
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No I am just like this replier with comfort and it isnt because of hangups sexually. Its because the reality is: after 3 dates you simply do not know someone. I have had a longer relationship with my Brita filter than most men I met on OLD apps after 3 dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:50 PM
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How do you know she is making you wait when she didnt for other men? Do you ask her directly? Most people meet off of OLD apps and dont have mutual friends to ask these questions to early on in dating...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:48 PM
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How do you men know she is sleeping with men on the first date in her past?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:47 PM
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No shes right. Alot of average men only want very high quality women when they arent high quality themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:46 PM
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When I was 25yearsold I tried dating older men because I wasnt having great luck with men from 23-30years old and I thought older men would be more mature. I dated several between 30-35 years old. Most of them werent more mature and in fact there was a consistent theme that they were more bitter and had too much emotional baggage. I ended up meeting and marrying someone 2 years older than me (like the average) at 28. Sorry men in your 30s, us younger 20some women dont want to pay for your dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:43 PM
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if a girl makes 30k a year no man cares, etc. I made that amount of money as a woman 10 years ago, right out of school in an overeducated and underpaid field. Men used it as a reason I couldnt be LTR material. So you're wrong, this isnt the 1950s anymore. Men do care about income now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:41 PM
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Yep, actually alot of 30yearold some men find women in their 20s immature and annoying...the dudes that visit here are just bitter and low quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:39 PM
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Mine as well. In fact, all of my friends who got married in their 20s seem to have the worst marriages by their description. People dont make good decisions in their 20s or they change too much and arent a good fit for their partner long term. Actually, my friends that got married at ages 35+ have the overall best marriages, but Im sure men on here would hate reading that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:39 PM
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Yep, when I first started frequenting this forum years ago I looked into the histories of self proclaimed "average male" users here complaining they cannot get an average woman when they arent introverted and dont have high standards. It took a lot of time. Many of them commented on women's pictures rating them in their history. They were rating above average women as average (sometimes even below average). Then it clicked in my brain and it made sense. They think above average women are average…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:29 AM
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Yes some women do this (notice I said some, this forum doesnt account for or even acknowledge individual differences) because they have heard men judge women who sleep with them early or experienced it themselves (though I dont think those men are worth any energy)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:26 AM
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Not really- most of the people I know who divorced where the man initiated it, he was not the type to go for or to be able to get casual sex. But most of the men I know that initiated a divorce have told me their ex wife has mental issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:25 AM
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"The more time I’ve spent on this sub, I can’t help but to feel like all these “men” are simply just social awkward losers who don’t talk to women at all." ding ding ding. id add character lacking to socially awkward
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:58 AM
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Nah dawg- this depends on your social circle. The example woman you gave has definitely been negatively gossiped about in most of my social circles...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:32 AM
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I agree with you. I think for both genders its fine because it teaches people to not walk all over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:31 AM
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I dont disagree with you. I dont really see much of the things you listed as misandry in actual real life though. -Men dont really "take you out" much anymore- its usually 2 people planning the dates together. I did OLD alot in my 20s and very few men actively planned a real date and when they did it was not frequent. Most of the time if they asked me out I helped them plan the date by picking the restaurant/type of food, activity/movie, location etc...also alot of men nowadays after the first d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:29 AM
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No, its how they are expressed that is the problem. I only have issues with standards when people are unrealistic or hypocritical really. Like overweight men only thinking thin women are good enough for them, an unemployed woman only dating men who make 6 figures, a really mean person only preferring doormats to date, etc. Also, some standards people have are harmful to their other partner and I do take issue with that. I have one toxic uncle who wanted to date a woman who made less money than h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 02:45 PM
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Teach him to respect women and emotional intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 02:34 PM
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Yeah, I'd cringe if my son called women by numbers on their looks ratings...actually thats one of my biggest red flags a guy is a misogynist. Funny how you never hear women doing that. Also, I dont really find that the most attractive people make terrible partners. Attractive people definitely can have a good personality and character. Actually, some of the worst men Ive ever met have been average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 02:33 PM
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-Too much baggage (not over ex, signs of more severe mental illness, insecurity) -Rude manners/rude demeanor or just general bad vibe -If its a date where we talked alot about hobbies and our values, having nothing in common. -No chemistry (this is a HUGE ONE for OLD apps...and it does NOT always correlate with how cute a guy is. Ive felt NO chemistry with men who could be described as out of my league and theres nothing wrong with them, yet Ive felt chemistry with pretty average looking men...)…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 02:28 PM
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Lots of people are struggling right now to pay bills due to inflation and high COL. LOts of poorer women around to date. You may have issues finding them because many poorer people dont want to date. They are too stressed, work alot and don't have money for activities. However, this depends on the guy. If he wants to have leverage and doesnt mind that kind of power dynamic, sure. Most men, around 75%, that I met wanted a financially stable woman, even ones I've met on the poorer side, so you'd b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 02:26 PM
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I dont think so. Many of them dont think Im ugly, but they dont think Im attractive. And Im mostly friends with men who absolutely need attraction for sex and will not have sex with any hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 02:19 PM
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Theres plenty of women not interested in this lifestyle. Alot of men find these women boring, not attractive enough and not compatible enough in other areas though... so they are invisible to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 03:37 AM
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Another NYC poster who is surprised by the nature of people who want to live in NYC...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 03:35 AM
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Yeah, Ive been with my husband for 5 years, dated another 2, he is still affectionate and yeah, Im still attracted to him. I swear most of you PPD men just need therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 03:35 AM
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The public school system failed Louisderouvroy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 03:31 AM
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I have met few late 30's women who had issues trying to conceive. Im extremely open about my fertility issues and thus, it has elicited alot of similar stories from other people with the same problems. Yes, fertility declines in women's 30's and does so a bit more in women's late 30's but it is really being overblown here. Going for a woman who is ages 28-30 versus one who is 35 is really not a guaranteed way to ensure youll have children. So no, im not an outlier! I strongly disagree with OP th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 03:27 AM
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senior citizens can still father healthy young babies That is very rare. You are exaggerating. There are virile men that old but rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 08:20 PM
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Yeah man its the quality of women you date. You need to vet women better and get out of the rural life. I would know I literally had this same issue after I graduated from graduate school and ended up back to my conservative rural hometown (only place that offered me a job). No way in heck was I finding a suitable husband there. I ended up moving to another state.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 08:11 PM
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That wasnt OP's point. He is saying men should focus on dating women UNDER 35 for fertility reasons. Well when I was 30, and probably even younger, I had poor fertility. Yet ALL OF MY FRIENDS 35+ got pregnant quickly. Imagine if some guy picked me because he thinks Im more fertile? Jokes on him. For both men and women fertility starts to decline in their 30s, more so in their late 30s, and even more so in their 40s. Alot of women at the fertility clinic I go to have husbands in their 40s and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 08:06 PM
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Depends on where you are looking. Most couples ultimately end up together that are in the same socioeconomic status. There arent too many couples with dramatic income differences (outside of temporary SAHMs from childcare cost reasons) People on this forum hate Female Dating Strategy. Weird thing is I used to visit that forum and saw tons of posts where moderators told women like you describe they need to make money for themselves and stop being golddiggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 08:01 PM
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Yeah these women are trash and dont represent most women. This is like me thinking one extremely shallow ex I had (he was a tad overweight yet he thought a woman with a 19 BMI was FAT) is like all men. I know he was an extremely shallow exception. Most women want a man their height or taller. Considering that 1% of men are shorter than the average woman I think thats doable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:47 PM
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It is hypocritical for a woman to only date men who make 6 figures when she makes minimum wage...never said it wasnt. Shes unrealistic. I also have maybe only met 1 woman like that in my extremely social life. I also dont see people calling fat women queens ever. They are usually made fun of, way more than fat men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:46 PM
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I have naturally always waited several months for sex and all of them who wanted me for just sex never made it that long. Its a good strategy. I dated ALOT in my 20s. Im now married to someone who didnt mind waiting and in fact preferred it and we are very well matched sexually. Neither of us dislike sex either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:44 PM
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This. I naturally waited 3 months to have sex with my now husband and I knew I vetted him well when we finally did it. It can happen but its pretty rare for a guy who only wants sex to wait this long. I also have never really dealt with a guy being afraid to commit that I dated for months and liked...like alot of my exes were crappy in the long run when the honeymoon phase wore off but none of them were noncommittal...I think its because I didnt go along with a guy who wants to jump in bed right…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:41 PM
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Actually, male fertility declines in their 30s and even more so in their 40s. Quality of sperm goes down. I know WAY too much about fertility since I have had fertility issues. Male fertility is very much underlooked in conceiving a healthy child. Also you should look at my other comment in this thread where 12 of my female friends in my social circle, all ages 31+ , conceived much easier than me and without issue, even though I was among the youngest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:35 PM
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I love these posts. I am about to turn 35. I have an almost 2yearold. In my social circle of 12 other couples with young kids like mine (all couples are in their 30s/early 40s), I am one of the youngest (there is another 34yearold woman and one 32 year old woman, every other woman is 37+) I am also one of the thinnest and probably the most consistently health conscious too. I am the ONLY ONE with fertility issues. Heck, 2 of the women who are 40 and have a 1yearold got pregnant ACCIDENTALLY. Fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:32 PM
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The concept of chemistry on this forum is nonexistant. I have become totally infatuated with very average looking men and ignored other men who are objectively more attractive by alot of people's standards because I didnt feel anything towards them. Women are not automatically attracted to men "in their league" or sometimes even "out of their league." If you go to other forums on reddit, men actually express that issue too, just most of the ones on here are kinda crazy. Go to the dating subreddi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:27 PM
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Who are the men from this study and where can I find them? I very rarely meet men who do 1/4th of what is listed. One very very key thing you leave out is that some chores take way longer than others and are required more frequently- those are the chores that most women do more often. This is the actual reason why women tend to do more housework. Men have a wider range of tasks but the majority of their tasks take little time or arent done very frequently... Example: cooking, cleaning, laundry, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:20 PM
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Uneducated or not like me/different in some way is fine. But toxic, mean, rude family I would judge the guy unless he knows they are crappy and limits their involvement with me (been there many times, many of my crappy exes had crappy families...shocker...however they had NO emotional intelligence and expected me to put up with their family and deal with them all the time) The only time I wouldnt judge in this situation is if you KNOW they are toxic and crappy and stick up for your partner and r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:19 PM
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Yes this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:16 PM
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It depends on the guy. Ive always had more male friends than female friends in my life and I have had some men who are "orbiters" as you all call it, but its a much smaller % than you think. My longest lasting male friendships are with men who like me but not romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:14 PM
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No, most of the women on this forum are against n count dealbreakers from men who themselves are promiscuous and feel entitled to it. They dont care about more traditional men wanting traditional women. Women dont care if a man doesnt want to date a fat woman as long as he isnt fat. The tall thing is way overblown on this forum. Women are calling out entitlement, not preferences. Im that way- could care less what people prefer but when I see broke, nonsocial, overweight, promiscuous-desiring men…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:11 PM
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SO basically men should just stop being jerks?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:09 PM
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Women (and men) want financial stability or to reach a certain level of financial comfortability.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:51 AM
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Morals- plenty of western women have them. I have many female friends that refuse to sleep early on with a guy, in fact, several judged me for sleeping with a man after 4 months of dating. It depends on your social circle. Maybe you should concentrate more on changing your social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:49 AM
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There arent enough high paying jobs to go to men who want them even if men could obtain them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:48 AM
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Somebody got burned bad and is generalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:43 AM
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Ehhh I have a job similar to this and Im totally burnt out at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:41 AM
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Hes not traditional. He is selfish and just wants a doormat. This is typical of American men- they want the benefits of feminism and the benefits of traditionalism. People in general nowadays want the perks of a relationship without any of the work/responsibility. There are very few traditional men left in America. I grew up in a conservative traditional town and there are way less actual "traditional" people than you think. One of my closest extended family members (aunt, uncle and 2 cousins) p…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:40 AM
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Yeah, this applies to both genders of people overlooking other people who are interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:37 AM
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I'm almost 35 with a 2yearold and trying for another, my energy is fine. But I'm physically healthy and live in a healthy manner. No way I'd ever wanted to have kids in my 20s. Less money. Less maturity (with the guy too). More FOMO socially. Ironically I'm one of the youngest of my social circle of 12 other couples (11 of whom have kids too...) I'm probably the most health conscious...yet im the ONLY one not getting pregnant easily the 2nd time. Everyone else who wanted a 2nd (they are all in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:13 PM
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Yeah I dont even understand why body count is so discussed on here. Most people dont go around discussing their body count. I dated ALOT and I only had 2 men directly ask me that question. Most never ask and if I never volunteer the info how would they know for sure?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:52 PM
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There isnt an incentive. Its a catch 22 for women: men wont date you if you dont sleep with them (and they expect it pretty dang early now) but then they judge you when you have a past. So basically you have to be an attractive likeable woman (who of course will get male attention) but you have to not slept with many of the men who express interest in you, and then when she meets you since you are special she HAS to feel you're the exception! and sleep with you early. Yet, if you break up later,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:51 PM
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I wouldnt call that man insecure at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:49 PM
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This is a great comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:49 PM
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I could see that. American society (dont know about other places) is very individualistic and self centered. People are seen as disposable and nobody wants to compromise or work on problems or have a not perfect relationship. People are less likely to want to make their partner happy and want to find someone who just will make THEM happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:48 PM
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Well his ex didnt treat him well so I dont think he cares. She admitted throughout their rel that she had anger issues but refused to get help, my husband gave her many chances to follow through but she didnt. After he called off the wedding she agreed to go to counseling but backed out at the last minute and told him he would have to pay for it because "it is his f***ing problem." He wouldnt consider getting back with her unless counseling was involved, to which she harassed him about- saying s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:44 PM
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Women also bear the planning, entertaining, social and emotional brunt. Women also have to upkeep their appearance more. When a relationship gets into a rut, it is pretty much the responsibility of the woman to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:32 PM
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Yes, women in general already have higher expectations we dont need people to make it even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:30 PM
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Did he already fall out of love with his ex for awhile long before meeting you and was just dragging out the inevitable ? Yes. Actually, both of this have this flaw. We drag out friendships and relationships longer than they need to (although I think Ive gotten better as Ive gotten older...) because we both are the type of people to really try everything before ending it. It is the reason both of us have had no issues moving on from exes though, so its a double edged sword. I literally have no e…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:27 PM
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I hate pick mes (although I have a stricter definition of it than other people I think) because they try to set standards for other women. If your house is clean because you like to clean and its not because you think its the womans job to do all the cleaning to a high standard, cool. But the picks me brag about their overly clean house like they are the ideal women and then men think this is normal. She is anti feminist so no I dont like her (and feminism to me means equality, not man hating)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:17 PM
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Most men in their 20s dont actually want a girlfriend, so thats not true for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:12 PM
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Autism is a huge factor of why you are single. You likely lack the very basic social skills needed for a rel. But you arent the common man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:12 PM
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Hard disagree- have met people like that and people constantly make fun of them. Personality is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:11 PM
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Relationships overall tend to be a net negative for women than compared to men. Relationships are more work for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:10 PM
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Good luck convincing men on here any woman is single by choice. I did OLD apps intensely for almost a decade (I'm in my 30s and married now) starting around 20yearsold. I did take a one year break from apps, right after I turned 25, and stopped looking for someone, and that was a year where I got asked out twice. This is despite being called attractive and having a good personality with my life together. Its because I work in a female dominated field, most of my friends were in relationships and…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:09 PM
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All of my female friends have been the opposite. They got pickier as they got older. My friends who got married at 30+ have much better marriages than my friends who married in their 20s. My friends who married in their 20s, their marriages are often bad or they are obviously not compatible. I have a huge extended family and literally every single person who got divorced remarried within 10 years (most in their 30s, a few in their 40s) and their second marriages are way happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:02 PM
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Im weird but most of the men I dated werent afraid of commitment. I didnt have any issues finding a guy to commit...however, getting a guy to commit who treats me well and with whom the relationship wont eventually become a net negative is a whole other topic...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:00 PM
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Red Pill is utter trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:59 PM
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Ive literally never gone for a man out of my league. Im a realist though so I dont try to. Its also been easy because men out of my league show absolutely no interest in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:57 PM
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Its not possible for everything else to be the same. Men have dominated throughout history because they on average are naturally physically stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:55 PM
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Coming from a man who repeatedly spouts "women just have no morals ever" take your woman hating somewhere else. Perhaps get off of here and get some therapy because you need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:38 PM
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There are women who do, they are just invisible to men and dont get as much attention. I have been friends with all sorts of people throughout my life and I have had several groups of female friends who would silently judge me if I told them I had sex with my now husband around 3-4ish months in. They would think "thats too early" I also have friends that would think "OMG such a prude"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:58 PM
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Hmm...if this is the case why do nursing homes have a spread of STDs and lots of couplings? Ive worked at many nursing homes in the last decade, and every home Ive worked at has had these issues. Ive had over 100 discussions of the implications of Medicare and Social Security when you get remarried at 70-90yearsold. But your statement, I should never have had to deal with these things, since all the women in these nursing homes are old and ugly by today's standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:54 PM
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Except it has never been an equilibrium. What do you call a bunch of people who held all the power and control until recently and now are whining they have to share and be equal? Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:51 PM
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Oh boy, you would have HATED me and many of my friends if you dated us...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:39 PM
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You know you can show emotions and not be weak? The world isnt so black and white...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:38 PM
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It is also the same with women avoiding promiscuous men, because promiscuous men have other offspring they give their time and resources to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:36 PM
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Not anywhere near as high as you think OP. I think the biggest problem of many men here complaining they cannot find a decent girl dont put enough effort into finding normal women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:20 PM
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Wonderful how women always compete for the same men How is what I described competing for the same man? I met my husband 4 months AFTER he called off his wedding/ended his relationship with his ex. There is no competing. All the other examples are the same I indicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:14 PM
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-Treats his mother and sister well -Has empathy towards those who do not benefit him directly -Has emotional intelligence (biggest green flag there ever is from a man) -Is able to calmly discuss conflict -Actually wants to resolve conflict, no passive aggressive/stonewalling/refusing to compromise -Remembers little things about you -Checks to see if you got home okay
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:13 PM
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" they were with a man for 6 years without marriage but after the relationship dessolved the guy found another younger woman and married after like 5 months." I am the "younger woman" (Except I wasnt younger LOL) My husband was dating and engaged to another woman for 4 years and called off their wedding. He met me 4 months after and we got engaged 1.5 years after dating, married about a little less than a year later. His ex was apparently livid as she nagged my ex into proposing and my now husba…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:09 PM
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I mean alot of the people being studied arent very clean and tidy...the majority of the couples had 2-3 kids...you can literally clean and pick up stuff all day long with kids and your house will look good for 5 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:00 PM
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This forum is an absolutely terrible place for a single woman to be. This forum is really just woman haters.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:58 PM
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What an offensive post to all the women I know who continue to love their husbands when they get too sick to work or get laid off. I could write a similar post but switch around the genders too BTW. Plenty of men only love women for what they do for them not because they actually love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:56 PM
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There are studies with observation, not self surveying, that show this. Married couples agree to have the rooms in their house and yard filmed when they arent sleeping (usually a set schedule) and researchers review them...these dont calculate planning into their list of duties though, so if a wife or husband is calling to schedule doctor appointments that time is not calculated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:46 PM
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Thats changing though. I work in social work and in the last 5 years, I have had a dramatic increase in male co workers (which I love btw!)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:35 PM
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This and many lower paying healthcare jobs do. Heck even the average nanny does.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:33 PM
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I agree with this. My husband is an engineer and his current company is not like this, but past companies treated female engineers horribly and didnt take them as seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:33 PM
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Men certainly do care about having a socially pleasing partner though- they want someone with a fun and engaging personality most of the time. When I did OLD for nearly 10 years alot of men brought that up as being a disqualifier for women they met...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:30 PM
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It depends on the individual. Like 90% of posts on here. I am pretty goofy IRL and the majority of men I dated did value humor highly. Thats probably one of the reasons why they pursued me. My now husband agrees with me when I say "most of the people I met from OLD apps are just duds." I know women who dont care at all about humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:29 PM
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No, I'd rather a man reject me if he isnt attracted to me. Why would I want to be with a guy not attracted to me? Sounds awful. Some of your examples involve a power imbalance in relationships where the man really is after being the one in control (older men going for younger women is definitely a good example of this, younger women are easier to manipulate, same with passport bros) so I get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:28 PM
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Dude, I grew up in a conservative hometown with extremely toxic people. The women in this town who need love the most are repulsive to men. Pretty much all of them have severe mental health issues, some are unemployed or get fired alot, are overweight/obese, have health problems at a young age, have anger issues, etc. None of these women have found men. None of them can keep boyfriends, heck most of them couldnt get hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:25 PM
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It can be both. I need more context and to discover the reasoning and intentions of the person requesting the boundary to see if it is controlling. Usually if this is controlling its with other behaviors too...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:24 PM
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It depends on the study. When I say studies I mean actual well conducted studies (not correlation studies or convenience sample studies, or ones with small sample sizes) that go through the rigors of being peer reviewed, that list their flaws in the Discussion portion and provide statistical results (many studies barely have any statistical significance so even if they find a result it barely means anything) These kind of studies are not easily found on the Internet, some can be found under Goog…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:21 PM
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Yep, this is supported by studies that show couples where the woman is the breadwinner she still does over 50% of the childcare and housework...why do both?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:08 PM
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When you live together, you have to match each other lifestyles and it's easier to do with similar incomes. If your partner makes far less, you'll have to either spend more on both of you or downgrade to meet their income. Its interesting you say this. Im a weirdo in that when I was single and dating in my 20s I avoided men who made really good money and this was the 2nd reason why I did so. None of the ones I met wanted to spoil me, despite what this forum tells you, and I definitely could NOT …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:03 PM
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Well its not as important as you think...did you know 1/3rd of American marriages the woman makes more money/is the breadwinner? I think nowadays due to the cost of living and just general prices (UGH inflation), couples care about getting to a certain level where they can live comfortably...its not like people have a set standard where they state "my partner must make *insert salary*" its more "how much do we each need to make to get to this *lifestyle level* and what are our job prospects for …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:59 PM
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Like every other post here, IT DEPENDS ON THE PERSON. Some men slutshame women, some men shame women for not being slutty enough. Same with women doing it to men. Where is the difference between the people doing this? THEIR VALUE SYSTEM. DATE SOMEONE COMPATIBLE WITH YOUR VALUE SYSTEM. ITS NOT HARD. My social circle would *very very* mildly slutshame men or women bouncing around different partners. I say very mildly because my social circle contains mostly people who dont value casual sex, but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:02 PM
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I agree. I have met an extremely small amount of women like this and they are always single.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:53 PM
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Most women end up with average looking men, thats the flaw with your statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:53 PM
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Most women are given multiple high value options so they have no reason to settle at their "league". I dated intensely for a decade bud and never have been on a date with an extremely fit, rich dude or had such a dude be interested in me. So you are wrong. You on paper seem amazing, so if cannot get chicks to look your way it is because your personality is offputting. No amount of money or looks can overcome that. Women dont want to date men who hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:51 PM
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Thats because women dont obsess over looks the way men do. World hunger and cancer would be distant memories if men channelled the energy they spend obsessing over women's looks into something else. For most women, attraction is a pass or fail. None of this "he's a 3.5" or "his eyes are slightly better, but his butt is a bit flatter" "Hes a 5 but on months he works out more hes a 6" Most men here are quite frankly pathetic. Also, women tend to see men as human beings but men dont see women as hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:14 PM
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Most people are average looking people together bud. Thats the flaw with your statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:11 PM
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Not according to men on here, men's looks ratings on here are skewed. 3's and 4's in their eyes are actually average looking women in reality. Obese women are 1's.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:08 PM
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Everything you write makes you seem more picky and critical, you realize that right? You are not helping yourself here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:04 PM
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Yeah, if that chick is a 6.5 you're the problem, you gotta be kidding me...LOL no wonder you all write you cannot find an average gal!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:53 PM
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You dont really know for sure how she'd react if you broke up. She may grieve intensely for a short period of time and move on to the next guy and act the same way. I have a girlfriend who is very intense with every single boyfriend she has had yet I would never tell her current man that. She is just the kind of person who fully loves in general. Your girlfriend likely doesnt like alpha men so no, her next man may not be an alpha man. If youre her type she would likely end up with a guy similar …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:50 PM
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Most of the time the woman naturally will because men who take on more stressful positions almost always work more hours. However OP when I was young and single I weeded out men who viewed relationship efforts very strict in terms of "transactions"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:45 PM
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Im a Lib and I agree with you, but the part where I lose most people is it applies to men too. They have done studies showing the more history of casual sex, the less likely your marriage will last and not end in divorce. For BOTH genders. It isnt the casual sex itself changing peoples brains making them into bad partners. Its the personality/character traits that lead someone to pursue casual sex also make them a poor candidate for a LTR. Specifically: hedonism, egoism, impulsivity, more prone …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:44 PM
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The provider thing for men isnt really the case anymore. Very very few people can have one person not working. Its not sustainable to have a family on one income nowadays. The overwhelming majority of women work. In fact 1/3rds of American couples involve a couple where the woman makes more. When PPD men argue with me they usually cite the top 5-10% richest men. The average man has a wife that works. The only time this isnt the case is depending on where you live, you see a lot of SAHMs for youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:39 PM
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I dont take seriously any looks "ratings" posted by men on this forum. I constantly see men posting pictures of women they consider to be 4s, 5s, and 6s, who are clearly ABOVE average. Your 5 is likely skewed and shes probably way above a 5 in reality. Men on PPD have very harsh ratings for looks. I used to engage with men here who did this rating thing until I realized y'alls ratings are nuts...probably part of your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:35 PM
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No, the woman you want says that. The woman who doesnt do that sort of thing though, well, you never thought she was good enough for you anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:33 AM
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It only works on certain types of women. Ive noticed men doing the things you listed and I immediately stopped seeing them. A couple I called them out on it when I was young and dumb and many seem flabbergasted I would not want to continue dating them. But, hey! Tons of misogynistic moronic men on OLD apps I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:32 AM
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Wow, look, the 23942389091th man on PPD with harsh looks ratings. No wonder you all are single and struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:27 AM
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Good luck convincing any man on here that a "settle down" woman option even exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:27 AM
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Yeah. OP this isn't uncommon, doing things you don't care for in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 06:20 PM
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As you can see OP, men are just as picky as women usually. They tie up everything you listed as dealbreakers by stating they can't exist as they would fall under the other main traits you listed (So they do actually see them as dealbreakers lol) they do actually have a laundry list like women, it's just their main needed traits encompass much more nuance and behaviors than women's main traits. Very interesting to see the mental gymnastics here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:56 PM
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Yeah your first sentence isnt based in reality. Every single female friend Ive had that is considered ugly by todays standards struggles to get men interested in them... period...by ANY type of man. You cherry pick your DV stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:51 PM
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Yes I am saying that- theres no way people can get caught if they are only doing OLD or people not in your general everyday social circle. Me, personally, I very rarely dated within my social circle, but I didnt participate in that kind of behavior. I never multi dated at all except for OLD for the first 1-3 dates a few times, and even then I wasnt a big fan. I also didnt sleep with men quickly and wasnt into casual sex. I wouldnt be a fan of finding out shortly into a relationship our sexual va…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 03:33 PM
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Nope. Ive met many an average looking, disloyal, emotionally cold and unsupportive, selfish, average job men with a blah personality that expect a model looking, loyal, sweet, emotionally supportive, funny, charismatic, more selfless, financially stable (they do care about income) woman. They are VERY common on OLD. This website is crazy and what men write on here doesnt translate to IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 03:27 PM
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Culture is a huge reason why people can cheat. There are many countries like this that treat women literally like cattle and slaves...and its why I laugh hysterically at men that say men have been oppressed throughout history. I guarantee you if there was a country where women held that kind of power over their husbands, theyd cheat too and get a second husband. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 05:52 PM
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They view you as easy (only one I can think of that hasnt been listed)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 05:32 PM
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As I replied to your other post, there are studies that show the same for men that you ignore because it doesnt confirm your narrative. There are exceptions to this of course because I have met them! but people who are promiscuous tend to have traits that dont go well for LTRs/marriage. These people tend to have either some of these traits or all of them: -have a much higher than average sex drive (that may cause a LTR partner to feel they are hard to keep up with) -easily bored (impossible stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 05:31 PM
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Theres a million different reasons why people cheat... ​ I love this forums statements filled with absolutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 05:28 PM
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Very good point, Ive only known a few men like OP describes (OP greatly overexagerates of course, and thinks this is normal, its pretty rare) and they all are gossiped about/judged.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 05:27 PM
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As someone who dated extensively for 10 years to the point of being very very burnout, just no. Men look at all of these for LTRs/marriage: -looks (this is not the main and only factor like you describe) -personality -values/beliefs/lifestyle -character -intelligence -income/job potential I actually find men are just as picky as women, and Ive been criticized by many men in all of these areas. Often with conflicting statements too. 2 men said they thought I was too intelligent for them its intim…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 05:25 PM
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Good luck convincing all the toxic men on this forum this. Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 05:24 PM
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OP like most of the people on this forum is just simply crazy and toxic. I dont know why I bother being here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 05:23 PM
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Really none if you do OLD or date those who arent connected to your social circle. I very rarely dated men who knew all my old friends and older contacts. The only time my past came up is if I volunteered info about it or they directly asked me. Men quote that but they are referring to a time in human history where humans stayed in the same small social circle their entire life...thats not the case anymore... The average dater nowadays isnt blabbing about their past during their dating periods w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 05:21 PM
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I actually dont like sports cars for the gas reason you listed LOL. Im not aware of sports cars that arent like that. If you think there are an ample amount of mature 20yearolds, you're really not worth arguing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 02:36 PM
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Oh boy OP you are in the wrong forum. Men here dont believe in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:25 AM
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Wonderful comment. I do think alot of men on here just view relationships as transactions and dont care for a genuine relationship or connection for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:19 AM
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Thats because alot of people like to feel popular and follow trends. Alot of humans are fake and are followers. Im sure lots of people who would date the Kardashians actually arent a huge fan of their butt...but theyre famous so who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:16 AM
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I must be the not 100% of the time pool- alot of men with status come with headaches. Alot of women I know who were once married to men of status complained frequently about how they had to maintain an image, how exhausting it was, and how they had to deal with certain things (no privacy, their career never got much attention or took precedence, etc) because of their husband's status...I would never want to deal with that...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:13 AM
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Hate to break it to you, but as a happily married woman and with more dating experience than most people that post here, I dont use sex as a weapon. I dont think Ive ever not had sex for punishment. If I didnt have sex or refused I simply wasnt in the mood. Women do love men. Men also love their children. Plenty of men dont see sex as the end goal. Plenty of women love sex (some even more so than their spouse) You should get some therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:10 AM
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Yes they are. Most men dont try hard to learn how to be the best parent possible partially because of the woman will take more of the brunt. But men are perfectly capable of being just as good at child rearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:07 AM
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Most of the men Ive dated IRL dont seem to struggle much with dating anxiety...even the ones who dont date much. I think this only applies to men online...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:07 AM
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Like many studies discussed in this forum, there are studies that show 1) women cheat more 2) some that show men cheat more 3) and many that show they cheat the same amount or a very small difference between the genders (not statistically significant). I would say in my personal life Ive met an equal amount between genders. I still think overall there are more social circles where women are more judged for it and men are more likely to be given a "boys will be boys" free pass- thus, women will g…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:06 AM
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Honestly, they are more sex driven, often manipulative and just willing to sleep with more women or lower their standards. Thats not an answer that will go over well here. Some of them are objectively more attractive but I have met some that are not. Some are also very extroverted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:03 AM
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No, I dont know youre right. They are turned off by immaturity and arent obsessed with superficiality. Just because you are, doesnt mean everyone is. Why did Prince Charles in his 30s pick Camilla also in his 30s (especially over Princess Diana, she is WAY better looking and younger) and this guy could literally date any woman he wanted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 03:44 AM
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Im not sure why Im bothering to argue with you, but there most definitely are men that wouldnt pick the 20yearold. Those men are extremely unlikely to visit this forum. This forum is just the bottom barrels worth of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 06:55 PM
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"The truth of reciprocal attraction is that it’s not fair at all. It’s based mostly on fertility and genetic fitness" What about old couples married for a long time that are still attracted to each other? Yet another post that also in general focuses way too much on looks for determining who gets into a relationship. If looks was all that is needed why are there so many subreddits geared towards romantic relationships with people complaining about intelligence, character, mismatched values/libid…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 06:51 PM
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Good for you for self reflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 06:49 PM
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Im married now but when I was in this situation when I was younger it was always 1 of 3 things. Fear of ruining a friendship. This only happened to me once and if I had dated the guy and it didnt work out I would lose him as a friend and likely our circle of friends. This circle was my main social interaction at the time and was not worth it to me. While objectively they were attractive, I didnt feel attracted to them. Chemistry is not always just physical attractiveness. This was the most commo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 06:44 PM
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There is countless evidence for this in evolutionary biology. Throughout most of human history, if women did not marry a man with access to resources (their version of money back then), her and her children would die.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 06:08 PM
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Its much more rare for women to shame male bodies than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 06:07 PM
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Men on this forum are 100% unrealistic. I got that after reading here for 2 minutes LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 06:03 PM
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Number 2. Although I'd like to point out number 1 isnt realistic: "They don’t love you: however after marriage they will magically act like they love you, worship you as a partner and never have the ability to even think about anyone else romantically, so they will never cheat. It doesn’t matter what you do to this person, they will act like they love you and not be able to express anything contrary to that." Nobody can do that forever. It will come out eventually in behavior or words that they …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:26 PM
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I had the same thought too. And ratings are so subjective anyway...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:23 AM
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You are too level headed to be here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:21 AM
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Eh the women described here just hasnt met the right one, and probably just has had to weed through more crappy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:19 AM
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Not surprised as most states are 50/50 with child custody unless there are certain factors (distance and conviction/hard proof of severe crimes/issues) I await all my downvotes as there are so many female hating men here who love to bring this up over and over and exaggerate how many men get screwed over by the court system.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:12 AM
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I agree alot of people arent marriage material- its because the average person is too selfish, lacks empathy, has a grass is greener attitude, lacks self awareness, decent communication and conflict resolution skills, and just lacks emotional intelligence in general. Relationships are just disposable nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:11 AM
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It shows he is a selfish hypocrite, thats why. Its an unbecoming character trait to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:09 AM
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Most of the men on this forum are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:06 AM
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In modern societies people marry within their own socioeconomic circle, its uncommon to see marriages with huge income and look disparities.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:05 AM
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This is an excellent point. I have had in laws make comments about the state of our house (when we were engaged actually) and the state was due to the fact that I wasnt doing all the cleaning. I got judged more than him. People today dont want to admit they still feel housework is the womans job.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:03 AM
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Yeah no its not. Lots of men complain about cleaning, go visit the parent subreddits countless posts of stay at home moms with husbands who complain and b**** the house is not perfectly clean when they come home... they have certain expectations of cleanliness they just expect the woman to do it instead of them. Ive dated male neat freaks and naiively thought I wouldnt have to worry about chores with them. It was worse because they had higher standards for me to adhere to. If a woman is a neat f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:00 AM
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Ive read alot of posts on this forum, and I feel like you took all the thoughts from my own brain and put it in a post. "I want someone who won’t make me feel pressured to do extra housework, won’t be too intimidated to commit to me, someone who stays with me whether I’m healthy or not, and someone who improves my life rather than detracts from it. " This describes my husband and boy boy boy, did I have to go through so many crappy men to find him. All the men before him that lasted beyond a mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:58 AM
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You are not the only man who thinks this way. Its more common than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:55 AM
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For certain men who have the values for casual sex, it will make them feel happier. Leonardo DiCaprio doesnt have values for an actual adult equal LTR. I always vibed better with men who dont see the point of casual sex. Having a partner with matched sexual values is important to me. For men who dont have the personality/disposition/values for casual sex, it wont make them happier if they participate in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:51 AM
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I understand and you can find plenty of studies showing the same for men and also some showing it for more men and not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:50 AM
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I dont view your example as entitlement. I think you are just devoid of emotion and have no patience for emotions from women. You probably are alot of fun at parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:49 AM
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Its not fault. Extroverted people have more opportunities to date because they put themselves out there and have more social connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:43 AM
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So many factors will influence this its impossible to answer- his looks, personality (sociability, assertiveness, determination, kindness), character and emotional intelligence, income, where he lives, will all influence this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:41 AM
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I dont believe in hypergamy (in fact I think most men want to date up and only feel they arent "settling" if they obtain a girl that is way too good for him, this is in terms of looks and personality. This is just my opinion from my dating days...I found men are very critical and can be quite demanding compared to what they bring to the table, they just dont show it as quickly as women) If I did believe in hypergamy, I would think its hypocritical. Most average people are married to other averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:38 AM
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I have had a lot of female friends and have had very few that say the things you describe. The same thing you post happens to women. During those time periods, celebrities had a more normal body. Celebrities today have to meet a much higher beauty standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:36 AM
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Yes its true. I dont know of any women getting purposefully pregnant by a man and leaving the man out though...I meet a wide variety of people at my very social job and have met 3 women who never met the right man, used a sperm donor and are happy single mothers by their accounts. Id never do that but I dont judge others that do it. However, all of these women were financially set. 2 of the 3 have alot of support. If children were cheaper there'd be more women doing this, its a common reason to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:31 AM
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"Dating for men is competition, you are always trying to outdo the guy that is also interested in her to keep her yours" LOL speak for yourself. I dated a ton in my 20s and never dated multiple men at the same time. Not my thing and never had the mental bandwidth for it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:29 AM
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But then if they could both do that and work as a team, they probably wouldn't be getting a divorce. Ding ding ding.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:27 AM
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There are studies showing the same is true for men, you just cherry pick because you hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:26 AM
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Its not wrong That statistic doesnt account for the fact that alot of men are quite frankly too lazy to file themselves even though they consistently show through their actions they dont want to be married. Men (and likely some women too) dont want to be married but dont initiate a divorce. why? out of complacency as mentioned, fear of changing finances, being alone etc but just because they dont initiate doesnt mean much. They dont act married or have mentally checked out of their marriage Wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:25 AM
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Women are born with value. Men must work to create their own value. This is assuming women only care about income, while men care only about looks. Its a common stereotype and a generalization on this forum that is very far removed from reality. For casual sex, people (both men and women) really only care about looks and that the other person is not being a creep. For a relationship, I find men (and probably women too) care about your 1) looks 2) your income (of yes they do! Gone are the days wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:18 AM
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Nowadays it is way less common for women to require a relationship before sex. Like WAY less common. You are simplifying things too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:16 AM
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It depends on the person (like every answer I give in this sub) Some people dont care at any age if youre a virgin As a woman who lost her virginity later than the average, and had several men point blank tell me it was a turnoff when I am lovely otherwise, I would say 23-25.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:14 AM
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Each sex believes the other sex is crueler. I could write about the incredibly mean comments many men have made about my looks that are completely unnecessary and why when Ive had people say to me "how in the world are you still single, you are pretty?" it would just go right through me and I didnt acknowledge it (not every man thinks Im pretty) "We all inherently know this. When a woman hooks up with a guy she goes and tells all her friends whether he was good or bad in bed, how big his divk is…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:05 AM
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You find a woman you like, who likes you and who you are compatible with and marry her, duh. Dont be like the idiots on this forum and do the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:03 AM
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This is an excellent point. On this forum people dont seem to realize when dating the majority of people dont openly talk about their sexual past. Most people dont really know their past when deciding to be in a relationship and if they find out, they find out later. I made judgments on the person as I got to know them when I dated (and I was very wrong several times mind you...several men that I assumed were players and into casual sex based on a stereotype were the opposite actually, and more …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:02 AM
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Both genders with higher counts are more likely to cheat and be poorer LTR partners. I think its because those with higher counts tend to have certain personality and/or character traits that arent good for LTRs, not because sex is a bad thing in of itself. I dont agree with your statement alot of less promiscuous men arent so because they dont have the opportunity. Some of the less promiscuous men do not value casual sex and are turned off by it. I have met a lot of men with this sort of value …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 02:58 AM
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The women Ive met that are the type to do ONS do it with any guy thats willing, so no. If they are going on multiple dates with a guy while doing an ONS with another guy, its because the date guy doesnt want to. They didnt discriminate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 01:26 AM
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I agree, I make an effort to do this with my husband and he does too. Complacency kills LTRs
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 07:10 PM
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I think the problem is when people arent attracted to what they deserve or is realistic, for example, alot of average men think they deserve this super hot, amazing personality, high emotional intelligence, independently wealthy woman when they have none of those things...but when you say to lower their standards they refuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 07:10 PM
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Im an average person and Ive been throughout alot of people... Ive come across very few mid 30s men with young women...Ive seen more mid 30s men with slightly older women actually...alot of stuff on this forum is just idiotic, you dont see what they write IRL. I think alot of stuff they write is for celebrities and the top 5% of richest men who live in a parallel world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 07:07 PM
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IRL or, choosing not to date. I come across more women each year that are deciding dating isnt worth it because they can get everything they need outside of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 07:06 PM
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The statistical differences in this study are quite small...like most gender studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 07:06 PM
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"When a woman says she’s looking for a relationship but then bangs a dude off of tinder first date, that tinder dude is more often than not a Chad. She doesn’t need social media to know he exists, the guy is in her phone." You know, I read this constantly online but I never have seen this despite being overwhelmingly social in my 20s and early 30s to the point of burnout...I find most women are consistent: they sleep with men early, they wait a few months or they wait until marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 07:03 PM
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I dont agree with the first paragraph- I was attracted to certain qualities they seemed to have in the beginning, but later I figured out werent true and a facade...the 2nd paragraph, I agree with you, and your 2nd paragraph is why I was never a fan of OLD. Most people on there rush, and most men off of there expect sex very quickly when I barely know them. OLD is a pressure cooker. The men I met IRL when I committed almost always were higher quality because I knew them much better...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 02:32 PM
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Not really...who said that they dumped me after they showed their flaws? Also, when I find out they have flaws that result in them bailing, whatever that means, I usually break up with them. But, they dont show that until several months in...Youre an excellent example of the person Im referring to in this forum who thinks you can 100% vet someone...you cant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 02:48 AM
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Ive noticed alot of men and women with a string of failed relationships are very compassionate, selfless and empathetic which attracts the opposite. Its very easy to say they have a broken picker but honestly, alot of people dont show their flaws until later. That is my #1 beef with dating forums on Reddit and really, any gender forum...the majority of people (at least intelligent people) do NOT show their flaws within the first few months of dating/friendship/professional relationship. Even for…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 04:46 PM
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Like most things on this forum, it really leaves out several factors such as social circle. In my current social circle, we would not feel a man who hasnt had a serious gf is necessarily flawed. If we notice a man like this is also extremely shy, lacks social skills or is immature ALONG with never having had a serious gf- it would make sense to us. In some of my past social circles I wish I had never been involved with in the first place, they would assume a guy whose never had a gf is bad. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 04:44 PM
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I didnt say safety. I said rich man (or back then, their version of a rich man) When I said "men stay silent" I was referring to this forum, not Red Pillers. Red Pillers are crazy and a waste of my energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:41 PM
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I do understand that part \^ Im curious how people find this out. Alot of people dont openly talk about their past. Also, people can change how long they wait with each date based on factors having nothing to do with their date...example: some women will sleep quicker with a guy who was their friend first, as they already know him better than a random OLD and feel comfortable with him. They may decide to take a new dating approach after they realize having sex too soon clouds their judgment (fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:08 PM
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they have major character defects or social deficits IRL but we cant tell online they hang with the wrong crowd/pursue the least compatible type of women with them are extremely introverted and give up easily in dating. Not good as it is tough to find the best match so it is a numbers game The most common reason IMO- since they have so much going for them and are a catch, they dont want to settle and thus, they need a high quality girl who is ALSO into them. Not as easy as it sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 04:10 AM
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AKA men have no leverage to force women into relationships with them and make them dependent on them. Why would men want this? its so when they treat women like crap they cant just leave them. Men who say that have control issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 04:08 AM
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Im a woman and before my husband I dated a man for a year who refused to have sex with me (he had sexual hangups from his previous abusive rel that he didnt communicate to me until towards the end of our rel) I thought he would come around, hence why I dated for a year. I was very patient and it did not pay off for me, and he otherwise was not compatible with me anyway once the honeymoon phase ended. The thought of cheating crossed my mind, but I didnt consider it to be an actual option, to answ…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 04:03 AM
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Not a single woman I know IRL, other than one 6 ft woman Ive met, filters men the way you describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:59 AM
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Yes they are, society just oppresses them in expressing their emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:58 AM
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It depends on the person, Id take it case by case if I were single (Im in my mid 30s and happily married). I have met several men and women not married by age that I think are bad catches or have avoidant issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:58 AM
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Not really. Hypocrites are a problem because it signifies they are selfish and entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:57 AM
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The problem I see with this is men pick and choose what parts of evolution to justify their behavior. Whenever you get to the part in evolutionary history where women and their children died if they werent partnered with a rich man (well, money didnt exist, but their version of rich) it gets real silent... And actually, I took many evolutionary psychology courses in college and I remember learning about how women cheat and sleep around, but are just much more likely to do it during their ovulati…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:56 AM
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I havent ever found those type of men to be appealing. I have distinct memories from my early 20s of being annoyed by women who were into men like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:53 AM
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It will depend on the type of woman he is pursuing. For me, being too cold would ruin your chances more but for other women too hot. Ideally somewhere in the middle is preferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:52 AM
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With one it was awkward when it ended but I didnt have ill will towards him. The other one was a douche outside of work, he was nothing like he portrayed himself to be at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:51 AM
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It seems fair to me. Women bear the brunt in pretty much everything else. I'd trade my menstrual cycles, childbirth, lack of leniency for character flaws (there is no "girls will be girls" get out of jail free card like men have), immense pressure to meet beauty standards and the ridiculous second shift hypothesis that is rampant in American relationships (which is when women are expected to work full time like men yet STILL are expected to do most of the housework and childcare like a Stay at H…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:49 AM
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Im dying from your comment. I love it. I wish I had money to give you. Also, Ive dated some men that were more attractive physically than I was used to and they confessed a much lower count than I anticipated. And no, they werent lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:17 AM
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Depending on your social circle size, its likely not a large enough sample size to really draw conclusions. Its anecdotal. I made statements like this all the time (not about looks, but other sweeping generalizations) in my early to mid 20s but the type of people I was exposed to was not very wide and my social circle, looking back, was not big enough to confidently say such things. For example, I use to say that only women were very catty and petty in friendships and that men made better friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:09 AM
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Yes nowadays you are correct- youd have to be super wealthy to be the sole provider. I dont have an issue with that per say, but men expect women to work like them and on TOP of that, to be a 1950s housewife and mom- do the vast majority of childcare, housework, all of the mental load/planning and also maintain their appearance when men dont need to- and women are supposed to do this with significantly less time in the day. Its called second shift hypothesis, and its one of the leading causes of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:27 AM
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I mean to afford being in a relationship, a LTR, nowadays two incomes are needed. If prices were what they were in 50s, then sure I guess with my salary I could have an unemployed boyfriend. Men dont have to do ANYTHING other than be financially stable. They arent criticized as much for not having a personality, having poorer character ("boys will be boys" mentality), dont have to expend emotional energy for your partners wellbeing, for not doing anything to contribute to the household. They jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:24 AM
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The majority of my exes worked 40-45 hours a week like me, same with all of my friends relationships. And yes, they spend money on themselves- video games, going out to eat, electronics, home renovation project goods (I dont know what this is called lol, they go to Lowes and Home Depot alot), golf, paintball, porn, etc. Not saying they shouldnt spend their money but they act like its only women who spend money. Interesting...so are you saying my female friends that are licensed social workers, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 10:28 PM
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I have talked to male friends. I have probably interacted with 5x more people than you have in my lifetime. Thats probably the reason why Im more open minded than you, you have only been around one type of person, very limited type of people and think everyone is like them. Go travel the world and expose yourself to new people outside of your bubble- it will help you realize everyone is not like you and your "friend" Ive traveled to 12 countries, worked an extremely social job for most of my lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:03 PM
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You have a chip on your shoulder and you should talk to a professional instead of fighting random people online. I love how you continually contradict yourself as well. It's not really my problem though You do realize this is what you're doing too? You took it personal and told me to seek therapy, for something thats never happened to me, LOL. Just because I suggested theres virgins out there in very happy marriages that dont feel theyre missing out on anything. Perhaps ask your mental health th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:59 PM
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Sometimes. I have met entitled women like you describe. However, the trend I see is that more women are settling than men, but I think thats because American society nowadays says women need to work like men but men are off the hook still for other things that women are expected to do (such as childcare, housework, mental load, keeping up their looks, being the emotionally intelligent/supportive spouse...men arent as expected to upkeep these traits in marriages/relationships- they are given more…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:35 PM
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Nothing I described was my personal experience. Ive never had anyone dump me to try out other women. LOL funny you assume that though. Perhaps you should go see a therapist? I think thats a good idea, coming from a woman, because you simply cannot handle an opinion that doesnt match yours . All people are not the same. Not all virgins will feel like they are missing out. Im sure some will, but I can definitely attest that not all of them will. Also, not all people who sleep with multiple people …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:28 PM
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Ok, yes, your response just confirmed it: you are projecting and you have the temperament and maturity level of someone to not be satisfied and to be wondering what else is out there. The fact that you think eating pizza and having meaningful sex with someone you love is comparable...pretty much nothing I say will make you see otherwise. You do know there are people who get lucky the first time? I actually know someone with your attitude, now he gets to live his life with regret because he screw…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:15 PM
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The average marriage in the USA benefits men more than women. Its why studies show married men are happier than single men but the reverse is true for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:09 PM
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Women have not been hating on men for years, its actually quite the reverse...Facts, where are your facts? Send me a peer reviewed well conducted study showing the statistic you mention.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:43 PM
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Im not hypergamous. That word means dating UP. I want to date someone AT my level. Huge difference. Since men expect me to work, contribute to the house, remain hot, be emotionally the best person possible- and they feel quite entitled to me being this way- then he better be the same. Its more fair. Luckily, my husband is at my level.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:27 PM
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I think alot of the times it is correct. HOWEVER due to selfishness in today's dating culture being rampant and actually accepted, I think sometimes its not true. For instance, I often observe relationships where the man refuses to compromise and wants everything his way and he treats the woman bad. People say "oh hes just not that into you" yet he treats literally every woman this way, even ones he admits he loves...in this case, its not true, the guy just sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:42 PM
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My thoughts are its not surprising OF is becoming so popular. Most men in the USA nowadays are obsessed with the superficial parts of relationships. OF is specialized porn, no wonder they like it so much. My favorite part of this is the amount of men who watch OF but wouldnt date a woman who has an OF. Another double standard for them to exercise I guess... Im not single but if I was I'd reject any guy who I found out watches OF. Doesnt match my values. I think it blurs the line into cheating as…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:36 PM
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Yeah but what Im saying is theres some women who will be very turned off by your past of having consistent FWBs and that you view women that way. Youd be doing them a favor by telling them this info. I'd immediately stop seeing a guy with a history of FWBs. Those kind of men make crappy long term relationship partners. A woman who doesnt act like me/do this would be more compatible with you anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:31 PM
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Yeah dear, your stat isnt true. Keeping repeating it to yourself to justify your hatred of women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:29 PM
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^^^^^Bunnakay I wish you the best of luck. I had to go through SOOOOO many men that would consistently give me orgasms, and not assume Id do more of the work in a relationship than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:25 PM
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The only man who has ever really appreciated me is my husband. I dated a ton in my 20s and hes the only man Ive met who doesnt do any of these things: -value me primarily for my looks, body. Obviously, hes attracted to me but that has never waned when I gained weight or when I decide to roll out of bed. He was supportive after I had our child and still found me sexy postpartum. The majority of men are very rigid with their looks requirements, they are superficial, including postpartum. -expect m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:18 PM
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Theres plenty of loyal and family oriented women in the USA. I meet far more disloyal men than women. Societal rules in the USA still lean in the male's favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:10 PM
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Its really not hard, men already have it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:09 PM
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I was always turned off by players. I desired someone very compatible with my values. Most men today arent men...theyre boys. Yuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:07 PM
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Maybe you should tell them that when they answer. So that way women turned off by men pursuing casual FWBs can know who you are and help you weed them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:05 PM
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In the average relationship and in the average marriage, the woman puts in more work. Marriage and relationships are not actually beneficial for women. Studies show married women are less happy than single women than vice versa. Which goes against our societys conditioning- pressuring women to want to marry and that men are losing out by marrying. In the average marriage a woman will be expected to: -work full time like a man and make decent enough money to be financially stable...gone are the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:52 PM
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Ding ding ding. Most partners probably arent aware of their partners past. I used to date alot and I only had one guy ask me such questions early on...and I found it a turnoff. Me discovering my partners past came up naturally in conversations...usually months into dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:36 PM
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"It’s a tricky thing for women. Men clearly enjoy and reward women for being “slutty” in many ways - but they also look down on those women, and like you said, find them disgusting on some levels." You can never please a man, aint even worth trying. Damned if you do, damned if you dont. Most lack critical thinking...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:34 PM
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Why are the happiest marriages I know of (people are literally jealous of them) contain one or both people who are virgins, or maybe slept with 1 other person, then? Quite the contrary, none of these couples have "grown out of each other" they got better when they started off great. Only people with a certain mindset/temperament/personality type view it your way. It sounds like you are emotionally immature and would be the type to wonder what else is out there, so you assume everyone else does t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:29 PM
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I agree with you, and I married a man with a lower count like me and he views sex the same as me too. Everytime I found out a guy I dated slept around it was an immediate no-go for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:28 PM
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I care and so do many of my friends, because it often says things about his character and how he views women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:26 PM
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I think people should be matched in their sexual values. For instance, Im not into casual sex and when I dated, I weeded out men into casual sex. For me, casual sex is sleeping with someone you know for sure you dont want a relationship with. Sleeping with someone youre interested in dating more, and then it doesnt work out( they dump you, you find out a dealbreaking flaw they have, etc) doesnt count. Im not compatible with someone who sleeps around or wants to wait for marriage (ive dated both …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:21 PM
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Also, some men are choosey about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:14 PM
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You do know most people in this world are average? Average looks, average income, average personality. This forum is cuckoo for cocoa puffs. I see average couples everywhere constantly. I dont agree age is a factor. Some men will only prefer younger women. But most women I know in their 30s, who arent obese, who have kids are dating and getting interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:12 PM
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"Very few if any men are complaining about women that consistently make men wait" SO NOT TRUE. The average man doesnt want to wait hardly at all for sex. They act like waiting a month is torture. What world do you live in
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:11 PM
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Women have to find something that they admire in a man to want to date him, but the opposite is not true BAHAHAHA Im dying laughing...This does not apply to real life. Y'all are crazy!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:16 AM
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I would not care if my SO had no friends or family, as long as he lets me have alone time. I perhaps would be worried for his social health and might encourage him to make friends or become friends with my friends/family if he is comfortable for that. Its not healthy to have no one outside of your partner unless youre Ralph Waldo Emerson extreme hermit personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 04:01 PM
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No its not all men. People are different. I notice trends in relationships per gender but I think its because of societal conditioning. However, even with this no "all men" and "all women" statements should be made.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 03:49 PM
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I think the average woman who masterbates can do it quickly...they perhaps just dont tell you that because they fear hurting your feelings. Im sure there are some perhaps that cant though they probably just havent tried. I can give myself an orgasm within 5 minutes, sometimes quicker...wow, this is an awkward conversation haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 03:48 PM
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Are we talking about sex or relationships? For casual sex, yes if women lowered their standards and sexlessness would be very rare. So I agree with that. For relationships though it wouldnt affect it, the average man is much pickier than this forum conveys for relationships IRL. In relationships men still have pretty high standards for looks but thats only one part of the pie- they require their woman also to have a great personality, stable income (men not caring about income is not true IRL, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 03:41 PM
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Are you describing who has no friends or family...but gives you your own alone time?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 07:30 PM
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I am going to start a new forum called the Clear Pill. Its where we discuss how we dislike people, or more specifically, people with a certain personalities or dispositions that are undesireable. Most of this gender war crap is just personality/temperament differences. I enjoy reading articles such as "Why Women Make Better Bosses Than Men" (all the negative male boss traits they list- my past female bosses have had) or "Why Alot of Women have Borderline Personality Disorder" (according to this …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 07:25 PM
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This is over simplistic. Sometimes, yes, you are right. Sometimes the person complaining is a high value person who cannot find another high value person available. True high quality people arent common. I find high value men complain about women in dating ALOT as well as genders reversed. I find people who are very emotionally intelligent complain about dating quite a bit because there really arent too many emotionally intelligent people. Major poor character defects needed for a HEALTHY relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 07:22 PM
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I think alot of men could attract women, its just not the women they want (aka the women TOO good for them- super hot, super caring, honest and selfless, amazing personality when theyre a dud, highly emotionally intelligent, independently wealthy). This sub rams down your throat the ideology of hypergamy in women...I laugh because its not reality...the average man nowadays is alot pickier than this forum tells you. The average man seems to think he is settling if he doesnt end up with someone to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 07:08 PM
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This comment is golden. People who are very well matched in personality, values, interests and goals that are attracted to each other and dont have major character defects end up in relationships that are more effortless. This doesnt happen alot though. There is a lot that needs to line up to have an effortless relationship. I can 100% be myself around my husband in terms of my personality and character, and I do not have to worry about my appearance other than not becoming quite overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 07:04 PM
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This is exacerbated in dating by the reality that one group or party (men) is far more invested in the outcome than the other (women). Of course, it therefore goes without saying that women have far more value in the market. Hmmm...why do women seem to care more about dating than men though? The average man is not more invested in the outcome...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 07:01 PM
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It depends on how/where they carry their fat. I actually got more attention when I gained weight, but thats because 1) Im still in a healthy weight range and 2) I gained weight in areas alot of men prefer to be bigger. I guess the jump in body fat % helped me in those areas. Some people are genetically gifted and gain weight evenly everywhere...those people can afford to gain more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 06:59 PM
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I have never thought men are desperate. Alot of crap people think is gospel on this forum Ive never seen IRL, or only less than 1% of the time. My other personal favorite gospels on this forum that are far removed from actual reality today: men only like low body count women (not true) men only care about looks and do not care about a womans income (not true) if a man doesnt commit its simply because hes not into you (can be true but not always, theres just a lot of noncommittal men nowadays in …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 06:47 PM
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I lost my virginity later than average and several men explicitly told me it was a turn off and they wanted a woman with a higher body count. They said this to me while admitting I have a nice personality, am attractive and seem like a good person. This does not apply to all men. Alot of men wrongly assume any woman who is a virgin will become clingy, want to get married right away or she will be terrible at sex, thats why.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 06:46 PM
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Its is weird and contrived. When I dated I never had sex quickly. Why? Im. Not. Comfortable. Enough. To. Screw. Someone. I Barely. Know. Even. When. I. Think. You. Are. Hot. Most men I met off of OLD, by the 3rd date I had spent a grand total of 6 hours with them!!!!!!!! They could have been just released from prison, how the heck would I know that when Ive spent 6 hours with them, never talked to any of their friends or family, never seen them deal with a negative emotion or stress? THE END
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 06:41 PM
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Based on my dating experience, most men want a woman who is too good for him. There are all these average looking, dishonest, boring, cold, emotionally blah men that want a hot, honest, emotionally supportive and amazing, funny, caring woman. Theres a few who are more realistic and would be ok with someone at their level, or they are really smart and try to work on themselves to land their ideal girl and actually be a match for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 06:35 PM
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Hmmm...why do some of the best marriages I know of, that are ideal marriages that everyone is jealous of, contain men who were virgins prior to meeting their wives? They dont desire casual sex and they do not feel they are "missing out" Also, why do I know women with this mentality...who dissolve marriages because they just feel they didnt sleep around enough? Another PPD post that comes down to personality/morals than gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 06:32 PM
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Why in the world do you think women do date Nick Cannon is the average woman? You realize these people are crazy right? Normal people would not participate in this... Oh so since Hitler was a man, I now think it confirms men are sadistic *facepalm*
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 06:30 PM
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Typical entitled answer. Because when a woman asks, its not uncommon for men to not be honest. They know if they are honest, she wont sleep with him. Some men with a good moral compass will be honest though. Also, the woman isnt planning on using the guy, the guy is, so he should communicate it. Anyone with a conscience would do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 05:30 PM
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I agree- few men and women communicate this prior to sex though. In particular I find men wont do this because it weeds out too many women, especially the women they want to sleep with. Its odd they only want casual sex but it has to be with a girl where casual sex isnt her go to...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:41 PM
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Ive had very few men "simp hard" for me. Most think theyre a catch when theyre not...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:40 PM
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"The problem with single moms is unless they were widowed or because their husbands up and left them for other women they became single moms by being irresponsible." Not really true...the vast majority of single moms are single because they got a divorce or their LTR broke up, statistically. Often theirSOs/ husbands agreed to the divorce/breakup or act like they dont want to be married or in a LTR but dont divorce or break up due to complacency... or they contributed to the conditions that led t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:32 PM
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Most of my friends describe their husbands as their "best friend" so I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:28 PM
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Lack of emotional intelligence and certain personality traits were the reasons why my relationships ended...not money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:26 PM
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I'm pretty sure we all start life ignoring bad signs because of attraction. I think we will have to agree to disagree. After my first rel when I was young that was bad, I have become very sensitive to red flags. These men didnt start showing their bad traits until later on. Many of them bluntly admitted it when I called them out on it at the end. Sorry you dated materialistic women that cared about your money- I assure you not all are like that. I have several close female friends that dont care…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:09 PM
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Sure, and I didn't wilfully ignore or try to justify red flags in women because they were hot either LOL, none of them would be described as "hot" I was attracted enough to them but they would probably be rated as average by people on this forum. 90% of hot men I meet have negative qualities that are immediately obvious. You have a bitter view of money, women and relationships. I make enough to live on my own. The HVM I am married to when I first met him, made average money. He was financially s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:16 PM
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They arent harder to get off. (At least for the majority of women, they arent. Theres also outliers for men- some men are hard to get off as well). The problem is the method of getting her off isnt penetrative sex, so men view it as "work"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:42 PM
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Ive met way more women that dont believe in sex before marriage than men...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:40 PM
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She dated a whole bunch of men with the qualities she complained about ( so was apparently attracted to that), planned to become lonely cat lady, and then met a guy who provided and that's all that really mattered (enough to mention). Nope, actually I am NOT attracted to that. All of my exes showed their true colors 3+ months into the relationship at the earliest. I would never agree to be in a relationship with someone who had those bad qualities. You think people show their negative qualities …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:37 PM
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The average woman doesnt benefit from marriage, studies show married women are less happy than married men and single women are happier than single men. Married women are more stressed: they are expected to work most often full time just like the man, (gone are the days where men dont care about a womans income, not reality anymore) while STILL doing the majority of housework and childcare...on TOP of this they must upkeep their appearance while men arent expected to, and women also are expected…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:52 AM
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Huh...upon reviewing my dating history tell me this, why is it in the majority of my relationships the guy committed before we had full blown sex? They could have easily found another woman too. All of them had other women attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:49 AM
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Yeah, I was never immediately attracted to a taken man when dating...it was actually a rather hard turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:48 AM
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I mean you are entitled to your thoughts...but most couples I come across IRL the man is "average" and he is part of a couple...so your statement is not really all that accurate... "The standards are higher and they won't put up with any guy that doesn't need the right criteria off rip." I really disagree with this. I know more women married or in relationships with men that treat them like crap than vice versa. Society conditions women to "put up" with bad behavior more...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:47 AM
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I always preferred men who didnt watch it, and if they did, very little. I dated many men with porn addictions or who watched alot of it. When I was young, I had a free view of it but Ive changed my mind on it. Why? I have never dated a man who watched it regularly that didnt meet AT LEAST 1 of these traits that wasnt very critical of my body and womens bodies that wasnt judgmental and had high expectations of me sexually (I was expected to put on a performance essentially) who didnt start event…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:39 AM
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Differences are more attributed to personality/character/disposition than gender which I think is more accurate. There is more variability between one group of men than there is between men and women overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:36 AM
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DING DING DING. Thank you :) Of course men are hornier. The main reason is they dont reap the consequences of it. (2nd IMO is social conditioning) The human race wouldnt have survived so long if women were very horny all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:34 AM
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I agree with the 87% study you posted...however, thats because the average man is too selfish in bed to actually give the girl an orgasm or for a smaller % of women, they cannot orgasm easily. The majority of women do not orgasm from actual sex, but see thats the only thing men really care about. The rare man not like this usually does better in dating too...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:30 AM
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I dont. I think attractiveness is subjective. I dated alot in my 20s and Ive been rated anywhere from a 3 to a 9. Some men find dramatic curves the best with some body fat, some like smaller body fat with smaller curves, some like girls that I think are underweight. That will influence what "league" they think a girl is in. I also dont think men are good at judging the "league" another man is in. Its weird- Ive had so many men say to me "this girl is out of *someones league*" ( referring to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:27 AM
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I agree with you that women dont need relationships. After putting myself through so many crappy relationships in my 20s with entitled, selfish, emotionally immature, superficial, lazy men... I had your attitude (ironically when I gave up dating is when I met the most HVM I have ever been with) I was planning on buying my own house, had a full social life where I was happy, thought to myself I could foster a kid in the future, was going to get a pet. I disagree with you on the sex part- casual s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:21 AM
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Most states are 50/50 custody by default now. The times Ive seen men not getting 50/50 with custody its because his wife/kids live too far and its not practical for scheduling reasons... or he didnt hire a lawyer when his wife did. Theres a small % of men who honestly get screwed over in these states. (And equal amount of small % of women who get screwed over too) Im awaiting my downvotes. Your issue is in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:14 AM
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As someone who had low self esteem during most of their 20s, men definitely do find it a turnoff and will use it against you. So your statement is not correct. Ive also dated men with self esteem issues where I didnt care, as long as it didnt very negatively impact our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:12 AM
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Ehhh I think it depends on the man, but women feel the pressure to marry more...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:11 AM
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Im a woman. I dont think for the average woman, makeup makes them look THAT much better. Its overblown IMO. Makeup can fix very minor things such as undereye circles and cover a zit or two, but it cannot cover very well someone with bad skin, it cannot fix an asymmetrical face (one of the leading causes of facial attraction) or fix unbecoming facial features...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:10 AM
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I mean that depends on the woman. Some only do it for themselves, some do it really for a partner (see how many posts about "my SO is letting themselves go" "my SO isnt trying as hard for her looks now after 1 year" "my wife never wears makeup" posts you see in the relationship forums here...) and then some (like me) do it partially for both reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:08 AM
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women often talk about their own relationships mostly in terms of sex and consistently say that non-sexual intimate relationships with men do not interest them. I literally have never met a woman like this and Ive met ALOT of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:04 AM
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This was the number 1 reason I was not into casual sex ever. Casual sex benefits men and not women physically. Can you imagine men having sex yet not having an orgasm because of the woman's laziness?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:00 AM
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You do know whoever initiates the divorce (filing the divorce papers via the court for this statistic) does not indicate who actually acted like they didnt want to be married right? Men are more likely to stay unhappy in marriages. They are more likely to go to counselling to appease their wife, but not follow through on the advice there. Men prefer to cheat or just be miserable than divorce. I believe sometimes its fear of financial ruin, which sometimes is not based in reality, or just plain c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:57 AM
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When I was younger and stupid I used to direct message men like this to talk to them...you are 100% right its not "love and affection"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:53 AM
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Andrew Tate was banned because hes misogynistic...not because "people do not want to talk about male specific problems"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:51 AM
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Yes this ^ It hurts too many feelings on this forum. There is a smaller % of men who are becoming more self aware and want an actual partner, my generation is not that great still...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:50 AM
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I find young men in particular dont want a connection, arent lonely, and do really just want sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:46 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:47 AM
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The vast majority of people in this sub and many others are just extremely bitter and emotionally damaged people that think the way they do to cope with their experiences or how they were brought up...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:56 PM
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I disagree- men say a womans vaginal canal feels much better than their hand...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:19 PM
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Yes, happiness is somewhat internal, but its more than that. For instance, when I have a guy consistently insulting me, acting selfish towards me, being too critical, acting superior to me, etc. I wont be happy. Telling me to CHOOSE to be happy in these cases is crazy. Also, me having to NOT act like myself to make them happy...no amount of "choosing to be happy" can overcome that. Men expect women to make them feel happy btw- you reverse these genders and no man would follow you. So I guess its…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:16 PM
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Well they explicitly stated to me part of the reason they DIDNT want to date me long term is because I was a virgin, so their words directly prove you wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:13 PM
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Your ex boyfriend is a boy and not a man. Let his stupid ego be hurt on his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:14 AM
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Our social circles must be different. I have found the opposite in the majority of my social circles. Men can sleep around and be dogs and no one cares, they are "just being men" and "getting it out of their system" and "growing up" but when women do it they arent marriage material and their character sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:13 AM
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Women dont get consistent orgasms from sex, if they did they'd probably want it more. Most casual male sex partners really arent good in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:11 AM
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Dont take anything seriously here. The vast majority of crap I hear the people here say does not happen IRL. These people live in some parallel universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:10 AM
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I have 3 exes that hated I was a virgin when I started dating them, threw it in my face in a manner that conveyed I was "less" than them, and told me they wished I had more sexual experience. So to answer your question- no, definitely not all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:09 AM
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Feminism means equality, so yes, my husband is a feminist. He thinks women should have the same rights as him. If he wasnt a feminist he'd be a chauvinist (unlikely he would think women should have more power than his own gender lol) then I wouldnt be with him. People identify radical feminism as feminism nowadays, thats now what feminism means. It means equality of opportunity. A true feminist isnt a man hater, they want the same equality as men. Its the same thing as people identifying Muslims…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:06 AM
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I judge women who only want men who are 6 ft 2. I think theyre superficial and ridiculous. Most men are taller than the average woman, who cares? Im pretty sure most of my female friends would judge them too. The same way we'd judge a man who only wants a model or a woman too hot for him. Hypocrites are called out because it means theyre selfish. I dont think there is anything wrong with a man wanting a woman who is low count as long as he is low count too. If hes not he is a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:02 AM
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Im happily married and meet a lot of unhappily married people. I was smart after observing this in my 20s and became very picky for a marriage partner. Well its paid off for me. My husband and I are not fatter, love each other more as time goes on and communicate better as time goes on (as it should as you know each other better)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:00 AM
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Alot of men, particularly ones on this subreddit, are hypocrites. They also just like to pick and choose the traits they want in a woman that will benefit them the most. I have also seen both on here and IRL that men complaining there are no good women that meet their standards, land one finally and then eventually take her for granted. Amazing how humans are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:58 AM
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Women strive to be with the one man who makes them happy and whom they are compatible with long term so they can remain happy. It is not an easy task BTW. ​ Both genders have people who are unable to be with the same person for the rest of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:56 AM
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The average man would probably not be and would see it as a red flag...however there may be some that wouldnt care if they really liked you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:55 AM
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Both. Like everything on this subreddit, there is no black and white answer, it depends on the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:54 AM
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Because she was hoping they would lead to a relationship. Most of my sexual encounters have led to relationships. However, some women feel fine with casual sex. They are less likely to discuss this with you though, as society judges them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:53 AM
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Because women arent only interested in hot rich men...good luck to you convincing men on this subreddit though. They live in a parallel universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:52 AM
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"Women call you all the time, force you to talk for hours." Literally have never done that. I think maybe with 2 of my 10 exes I had a long phone calls maybe 3 times total between all of them. Have you ever thought your social circle just sucks?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:51 AM
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My female friends that moved here from Europe think the average American man is so entitled...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:50 AM
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Ok...you do realize the same can be said about men? American men have become more unattractive yet entitled over time as well...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:48 AM
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Hes low libido. It doesnt have anything to do with you. If hes a great person otherwise, let it go.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:47 AM
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I find when someone has unhealthy parents as an example 1 of 2 things happen. They 1) become more like their parents (so in this case, these men have a right to be concerned) or 2) they are very aware of and try to be the OPPOSITE of their parents. OP, these men are missing out on women who fall into number 2. Their loss. BTW my parents never divorced but I recently became a parent and Ive been determined to not make the mistakes my parents did that ended up emotionally affecting me...this appli…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:43 AM
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As someone who lost their virginity older than average, I can give actual good insight to this as many men had an issue with me dating me when I was a virgin...I found with these men that most of them didnt want a virgin because while they do indeed like the ideas you listed, they also: dont want crappy sex. Virgins tend to not give you shatteringly amazing sex experiences. Alot of men want decent sex (that definition will vary upon the man, but virgins are less likely to give it) they are too a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:39 AM
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A certain type of woman does this. -Me, happily married 34 yearold recalling 3+ ex boyfriends whom I dumped or argued with until they dumped me and when they asked why, I told them they were crappy communicators and too emotionally distant for me to desire them long term. Also, my sex drive in those relationships started dwindling once they started their emotional and communicating crap. I think OP what you need to do is to research attachment patterns, specifically avoidant attachment. When I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:33 AM
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Whats the bias reversed for men? There are all sorts of behaviors that women are critiqued for, but when men do it they arent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:47 AM
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Yes thats true, the negative traits I listed above can be in anyone. I just find Im more likely to find them in high count men than low count men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:04 PM
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I agree with number 1. I think gender wars are stupid. Theres more variance between women in the same group, and men in the same group, then there are between men and women overall. Ive seen this confirmed so many times from my research education. Personality/disposition is the number 1 difference between people I have seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:01 PM
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This opinion gets me downvoted IRL and in other subreddits, but, I dont know about on here: Women tend to be cattier, hold more stupid grudges and pettier than men. I have been friends with an equal amount of men and women in my life, and I was much more likely to find a nonpetty and noncatty friend in men than women (though I did meet a small amount of catty and petty men when it came to nonromantic relationships, and same with women who are not catty or petty). Women will dislike you for the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:59 PM
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* No child support and alimony payments so might be cheaper when considering overall cost. * Can keep low commitment dating with multiple women for fun. Especially the promiscuous, polyamorous ones that don’t want children, that I see on dating sites. Gay couples and single mothers dont have this mindset. You should get over your fear of divorce and pick a good woman and treat her well (thats why 50% of marriages end in divorce, not because women are greedy, this along with people not picking th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:25 PM
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No, but these arent people avoiding any responsibility and sacrifice and screwing others over to avoid any potential future negative consequences the way the OP is. Those are people who are doing it because of their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 04:50 PM
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If you are struggling that much dear, you are probably very picky with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 04:22 PM
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I would love this. I think the average man wouldnt be able to handle it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 04:21 PM
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Why wouldnt he...this setup is just to eliminate any possible negative part of having a family...sheesh humans today are WACK.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 04:20 PM
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So basically you want all the perks of having a family without any of the responsibility or sacrifice. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 04:18 PM
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I 100% agree with you. Its very tough to find a social circle esp starting in your mid 20s. I struggled with this just with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 04:09 PM
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He doesnt interview regular women from what I understand. Also in today's world alot of facts and statistics arent really that... For instance, I would never take seriously anything you find off of Google. I'd only take seriously the results of well conducted peer reviewed studies that you wont find easily on Google. (You need a login to view most of these studies, a small % can be found on the Google Scholar tab) The studies also list their limitations, so it is easy to see if they are "well co…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 04:07 PM
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Ive met others that say that, but then when I meet the high count men they are referring to in person, they actually do have negative traits (value novelty or get bored easily, have a "grass is greener" mentality, impulsive, shallow, less likely to resolve conflicts fully, etc). The people with your attitude either dont notice them or dismiss them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 04:02 PM
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100%- emotional intelligence. The average man is severely lacking in this. I also find it interesting emotional intelligence predicts who is more likely to do well in their career, perhaps because so few jobs nowadays don't require some interaction with people. Also, empathy, conscientousness, being a good listener, viewing relationships as partnerships not "getting your way" all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:44 PM
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I have never met a high count man who was a good LTR partner beyond the first few years during the "honeymoon" stage. Im sure they exist but they are kinda rare. The personality/character traits that lead to someone being promiscuous are also bad traits for LTRs. STRs do not count.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:43 PM
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I agree with you- men with a high count that only want a low count women are among the suckiest types of men. They are the ultimate hypocrites. They make all these judgments about "high counts" while of course they are exempt from them. Personally, men with high counts are more compatible with women with high counts. Im not saying that to be rude- they actually are more compatible together. Men with this hypocritical standard are insecure and fearful. They dont want a partner as crappy as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:42 PM
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Leonardo is beyond superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:40 PM
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With exceptions (also you didnt include illness/disability) yes, you are right. Women that do you what posted irritate me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:38 PM
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I would think hes lying or he doesnt have any feelings for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:37 PM
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This 100% ^^^^^ OP is angry but roles reversed men do the same stuff. What is she supposed to do exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:36 PM
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Yes, women arent as obsessive with looks the way the average man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:34 PM
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Yes more women can do this than men realize
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:33 PM
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Well thats because you are self aware and reasonable. Many people today are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:32 PM
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No they arent
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:31 PM
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You are assuming that people teach young men how to treat women. It depends on the social circle. Many social circles dont do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:31 PM
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Depends on your definition of niceness. I figured out recently I define niceness as kindness, but not everybody does.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:30 PM
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I have dated men with high counts before in my 20s (didnt know, I actually used it as a way to weed through men so if I had known I wouldnt have dated them, lol, I always found out at the end) and I found they did ALL of the things you listed. 1)They got bored easier and couldnt handle mundane problems as well, were less likely to resolve conflict and just thought they could find a literal perfect match. People like this arent LTR material. It is VERY difficult to maintain a longer relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:28 PM
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I agree that alot of men (not all) overshoot average on this forum, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:26 PM
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For some women yes. However men do the same thing with "nice girls"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:25 PM
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Men with high emotional intelligence and maturity (which drives a lot of positive interpersonal skills) will act better in their first relationship, whether or not they have 'experience' or not. Experience can be helpful but it is not the end all be all. You can also develop good interpersonal skills from other nonromantic relationships in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:44 PM
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You do you, I do me. I dont want to do that, it doesnt fit my personality. But if thats what makes you happy, go for it. ​ Feminism btw, doesnt mean a woman cant be a stay at home mom. You dont know what the real meaning of feminism is if thats what you took from it. Feminism means women should be given the same OPPORTUNITIES as men. You want to be a stay at home mom? Cool. Do you think other women have to be stay at home moms if they dont want to? No? Thats feminism. I have several girlfriends …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:38 PM
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I agree but alot of men dont share your attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:36 PM
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You probably have unrealistic standards for beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:35 PM
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If you're a reasonably attractive woman, get in good physical shape and get a good degree in a good field. Be a mature, respectable, smartly-dressed, funny and pleasant person to be around. Hang out in places where high-value people hang out. Make high-value friends, and meet a high value guy. Maybe Im reading the wrong thing, but FDS does tell you to do this. It doesnt tell you to be crappy and then get a noncrappy man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:34 PM
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Ego- they cant stand not fulfilling the role society pressures them to fulfill- a breadwinner
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:31 PM
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I have and would do it again for a high quality partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:30 PM
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God dang it OP, you are so judgmental. I would stay as far away from you as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:29 PM
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Im not attracted to emotionless men, in fact Ive broken up with them, citing to them that as a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:29 PM
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Not mine. Ive been on very few dates where the person actively asked me questions about myself, that werent geared to answer things related to how I'd be with him/genuine questions about myself, or tried to keep the conversation going alot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:25 PM
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LOL, men have crazy standards. I dated alot. Here is a list Ive heard from guys Ive dated and exes: -wearing too much makeup. -not wearing makeup. -"crazy eyes" -frizzy hair -whiny voice -being sloppy drunk -being too quiet -having acne scars or dry looking skin -wearing modest clothes -being emotionally cold. -being too emotionally expressive. -having hair on her toes or inbetween her eyebrows. -being flat chested. -having a butt that is too big. -having no curves. whatever that means. -sweaty …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:22 PM
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Men, but I dont think its innate, I think its cultural.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:19 PM
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The best sex is in a good LTR. ​ Hookup/casual sex sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:18 PM
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Nope, tried it twice and could not. Although by the end they werent compassionate and caring either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:16 PM
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Anyone who follows Red Pill theories and advice is an idiot so I wouldnt expect anything less.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:16 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:14 PM
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I think its cute. So many men are thirsty for attention and sex too early on nowadays that when I came across a guy who was interested but seems shy/clutzy it was endearing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:13 PM
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Your non-religious values can cause you to want marriage. I dont think Christian values protect your marriage any better than non-religious values.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:11 PM
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Due to medical improvements, waiting until 35 and older, it is still possible to have children safely. Most of my family was unusual for their time period. My mother and 4 of my aunts, plus 2 of my older cousins, all had 2-3 kids starting at ages 35 and older. I have 2 distant cousins that have 1 child by accident around age 40-41. My family is not the norm though. ​ I wouldnt say it is encouraged to wait, just more to not despair if it hasnt happened yet in your early 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:09 PM
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"All too often, it seems like the burden of being fun and/or interesting falls on the guy because the women are only there to judge on the date's capacity to be fun and interesting" ​ I dont agree with this. As the woman, Ive always felt beyond the first handful of dates, thats my role. Women traditionally are expected to be more emotionally intelligent and better conversationalists. ​ I see men complaining about this all the time on here, I did a ton of online dating for 7 years and I had very …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:03 PM
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"Also since High Value Men are few, it's obvious that a lot of women won't find one. " ​ I realized this when I was 26, hence why I started telling people I didnt see myself ever getting married. It was only when I accepted this, was looking into loans for buying a house, getting a dog and switching jobs that I FINALLY met my High Value Man and I almost flaked out on him because I didnt even want to bother dating at all. However, if I had never met him, I'd be more happy being single than with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 06:57 PM
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" Exactly, generally men just seek to settle down with good women with women search to find the perfect man " ​ Umm....no. One thing I read on this site is hypergamy for women, men do it too. Men always try to date up and if not, they think they can do better. Men want a woman who is: -hotter than them (must be hotter THAN them, not in the same league of hotness, they need arm candy they can show off to others) -more loyal and less disrespectful than them -more giving and emotionally supportive …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 06:32 PM
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That said, most men don't want a submissive and traditional woman. What they want is a woman who treats them with respect and fucks them. Oh they want a heck of a lot more than that! If thats the case, myself and most of my female friends would not have any problems dating whatsoever. That is the bare minimum men expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 06:28 PM
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I agree with you. Its actually one of the reasons why I thought Id never get married. Im not sure if its men wanting to hold onto traditional values so much so as being selfish. I find today, men want the traditional wife/housewife because it creates an easy and nice life for them: they want a woman who is better looking than them, sexually and nonsexually dotes on them, is very supportive emotionally, takes care of them plus their kids. Who wouldnt want that? They want their wife to take on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 06:20 PM
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"tall smart big dick 6 figure income man full head of hair" I think most married women do not have a husband who meets all of these...maybe some of them but not all of them. I think men hold out for the opposite in women though, so what do I know: "Thin, pretty, interesting/great personality, financially stable enough to not be required to be the breadwinner, porn star sex abilities" Perhaps its human nature
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 06:01 PM
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I dont think women "fall" for them. They just arent realizing what theyre doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 05:29 PM
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Most men arent LTR material. When a guy admits to me he pumps and dumps or any similar method, I instantly know he is not LTR material.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 05:25 PM
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Most of them would, or they would try to turn you into a FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 05:22 PM
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I agree- assuming there is no relationship issue, mental health issue or body image issue causing a sudden lack of sex drive after children, it is almost always the woman taking on too much- work, housework, childcare, emotional stuff around kids. However, women are expected to take on more of a role with this, and will be critiqued when they dont or are unwilling, so you cannot win. I get criticized for expecting an equal partner in this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 05:20 PM
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"The primary drivers are simply circumstance, opportunity, and mutual attraction. Beyond that, most people just are not engaging in some consciously meticulous filtering and elimination of prospects. The actual reality is people seize on opportunities as they present themselves, take risks, get hurt, and experiment again. " ​ Maybe when you're young...for me when I got closer to my mid 20s I did start a vetting process. Some of the things I started to look for that caused me to filter out men, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 05:18 PM
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Alot of people, men and women, have little empathy and are not worth being vulnerable to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 05:10 PM
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I dont buy the alpha/beta male/female thing. ​ Very few women and men fall into these boxes...most men are a mixture of the 2 and it will also depend on the factors and context of the behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 05:09 PM
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LOL, i agree with you. Men are such idiots on this topic. I get a huge kick out of the contradiction men frequently portray when you get to know them on this subject. Most men nowadays expect sex early on, lest you dont have a "strong sex drive" or it means youre "not attracted to them" but a good chunk of these men also dont want a promiscuous girl or a high count girl. ​ There are so many aspects to being a woman where you just cannot win and youll be picked apart no matter what you do and thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 05:08 PM
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If you do online dating it is rampant. Alot of the guys that say they are looking for a relationship do this. They dont want to pump and dump women who will openly state they are fine with it because they dont find them as attractive. So they try to lure in the "good quality relationship seeking women" by pretending they arent into this. ​ Also, most men who dont do this, its because they dont have the option to. Give men the option to do this, the majority will do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 05:05 PM
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I find alot of men do care. Normal healthy men nowadays usually want a financially stable woman and not someone they will have to financially support for the rest of their lives. One of the ways feminism has benefitted men is that the role of being a provider has lessened and men are also not expected to pay for dates as much. The only men Ive met who arent like this are conservative Christians who want a stay at home wife the second they get married and thats a small % of the population. ​ I wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 05:01 PM
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" I know that men like to talk about female hypergamy, but the reality is that men are constantly trying to date up." ​ Yep. For fun I read the RedPill and laugh at how delusional they are... because man have I dated below me (didnt realize it of course until several months in when they started acting like themselves) and not a single one of those guys treated me like a prize or even treated me well at all. They also weren't good in bed. Some of them even admitted at the end that I was too much …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:51 PM
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I take it on a case by case basis, but the majority of the time it is a red flag. ​ I see nothing wrong with being cordial and friendly to an ex if you happen to run into them and did not end on bad terms. Thats different than reaching out to them when you dont need to and trying to maintain a relationship when you can just let yourself drift apart. None of the men I have ever dated would actually be ok with me doing this. Ive dated many men throughout my life that kept in contact with exes, a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 12:42 PM
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I agree. People take the friend zone way too personally. It happens in life where you like a person but just dont feel it romantically. I have done it to men and have had men do it to me even though they admit Im not ugly. You cannot really help who you like romantically either, I'm convinced its pheromones or your "genetic material" not lining up. And not everyone who wants to remain friends with someone who likes you like that but you dont reciprocate is "using you" ​ Also, when I say "lets be…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 12:33 PM
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I agree with this statement somewhat- the problem is I agree with it for men too and thats where I lose most people. ​ Guys that have a promiscuous past always feel like they are settling or giving up their freedom and identity when they settle down, even when its with a girl who is too good for him looks and personality wise. He will get bored and resent her later. Men that dont have a high count dont tend to do this as easily. Also, the woman a lot of high count men choose to marry, they dont …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:40 AM
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Certainly. I have several exes with contracts like that. Once you figure out thats whats going on with them, you break up with them. Examples of unreasonable contracts from my past relationships. Ive had 2 serious relationships, about 5 between 2-5 months long and another few about 3 months long: "Youll always be honest with me about your life and have no previous contact with exes/male friends interested in you/past crushes, but I can flirt with whoever I want, lie about my life (school, educat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 10:36 PM
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LTR by far, assuming the LTR is a good one. Men looking for casual sex see you as a masterbation tool and typically do not care if you orgasm (not as easy for women as it is for men, and yes I want to have sex for the orgasm just like men do, much to their dismay.) Men looking for casual sex also often do not respect you, care about your feelings or wellbeing as much which can cause them to be more selfish in bed again and not care at all, they treat you badly afterwards, so the experience will …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 10:22 PM
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I don't think your standards are too high. In fact, are you sure they're not too LOW? Do you make your needs known early and directly in a relationship and immediately next men who do not meet them? Or do you frame them more as suggestions, and are willing to take breadcrumbs from men? How decisive are you with your needs & dealbreakers? A woman in her mid-20s simply cannot understand or empathize with the plight a woman in her late 30s has irregardless of their own, individual relative attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 10:16 PM
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I think in some cases they should. ​ I find it hilarious when men judge a girl who is clearly hot and gets hit on alot for a high count. It is very hard to find a guy that doesnt expect sex quickly, just look at the threads on here, so of course she is going to have a high count. ​ It reminds me of men I meet who expect sex quickly then judge a girl right after when she puts out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 10:13 PM
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When I used to date a lot, I would next guys that dated like this. ​ Needing dating insurance is a sign of weakness and insecurity IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 10:11 PM
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People got married too young and did not find themselves the most compatible but good chemistry partner. You need both. I notice younger and more inexperienced people will marry the first person they feel strong chemistry with but arent compatible long term with or marry the first compatible person they meet who they dont have much passion for- you need both. ​ I have so many friends who married young or barely dated before marrying that have made rude comments or judged me for my dating history…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 10:06 PM
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They want a prince Charming that is a hot bad boy but also a good and responsible father. ----> not me. I am turned off by bad boys. I'd say I like cute men (I think my man is hot, but he'd prob be rated as "cute" by others) but probably dont vibe super well with "hot" men (due to their personality, but there are always exceptions).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 10:04 PM
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What about people who are looking for a relationship as an end goal and ultimately marriage, but sleep often times with the person beforehand? I dont consider that to be a FWB, one night stand or necessarily even casual. If I know I am not going to want to see someone again, I dont sleep with them. And Im very turned off by men who do have this attitude. But I have done it many times where Im interested in someone, sleep with them and if all goes well, it'll lead somewhere....then it doesnt (eit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 10:02 PM
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If having standards or being expected to be treated in a certain way, that is not unreasonable, is a covert contract, then yes. But men do it to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 09:59 PM
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Alot of guys believe they are doing enough because they 1) are more of a slob than their female partner. Some people are just messier and have lower standards. As long as this man isnt expecting the woman to do more work, there is nothing wrong with this. However, the man's mother may judge the female partner and others may too when she adjusts and the house is messy (my ex's family- their standards for cleanliness would have left me with NO life due to how lazy my ex was) or 2) really dont unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 09:55 PM
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