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It would appear they think you're part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:42 PM
1

It would appear so
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:34 PM
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I've come to realize most of the people on this sub think reddit is representative of the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:33 PM
1

No, it isn't. I critiqued your cognitive dissonance and because you will do everything but admit it, you've resorted to straw manning what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:35 PM
1

I never made that point. It shows how much youve actually been paying attention to the conversation. You're just waiting for your next opportunity to post an emoji and meme. I guess you need pictures with so many words around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:27 PM
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Upgraded to using tired memes to pretend that makes your point better now. A point you've supported with nothing but emojis and memes. But please, tell me more about how an unsupported statement has credibility without making yourself look even more ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:22 PM
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Add some more emojis so you can pretend it supports your point harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:18 PM
1

No, you can't. They are opposing ideas. Edit: to be clear, we are talking about the context of using it to refute the OP. You can say either one and it can be true. You can't say both and not contradict yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:11 PM
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u/thatbitcha was successful in distracting you from my original point by attempting to focus on the definition of generalization. Had she been arguing in good faith, she would have addressed my point that you cannot say everyone is unique and also say that you can draw general conclusions about a population. I asked her which one is it because both can't be true. As expected, she never addressed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 08:44 AM
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Bravery in men can be expressed in a different way than bravery in women. I don't think genders are tied to personality traits. Cognitive dissonance
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:13 PM
1

You essentially said most people don't go to sex clubs. HTH.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:54 PM
1

Generalize (Merriam Webster)- : to put in the form of a general rule : to derive or induce (a general conception or principle) from particulars : to draw a general conclusion from : to give general applicability to How is that not a generalization?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:40 PM
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most people don't attend sex clubs. I'm going to assume you're arguing in good faith and ask the question you are dodging. How is the first and now second quote, not a generalization?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:29 PM
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Maybe, or maybe it's the other way around. You haven't refuted what I said. Just saying "nuh uh" doesn't cut it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:20 PM
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Thanks for confirming my original statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:16 PM
2

...in reality, it's not a large portion of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:12 PM
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You say everyone is a snowflake out of one side of your mouth and then appeal to a generality out of the other. Which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:08 PM
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Used LMAO to cope instead of another tired meme. Very creative.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 11:04 PM
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Like I said, you can't grasp the concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:27 PM
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I guess you don't grasp the concept of having enough empathy to know when someone has been put in an embarrassing situation. Regardless of whether they recognize it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:38 PM
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You don't have to feel embarrassed to be embarrassed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:25 PM
4

You think being gay is a choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:02 PM
3

He wasn't talking about himself
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:59 PM
10

Someone posed this question a few weeks ago. Almost every woman said they don't think about sex unless there is a non-physical attraction trigger. I think this reinforces my assertion that reddit users and PPD participants in particular shouldn't be trusted to represent the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:24 PM
0

They didn't make that assertion at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:58 PM
4

I'm going to need a source on gay men being attracted to women. That would be a bisexual...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:35 PM
6

That behavior being insecure is subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:36 PM
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IMO, we should be pushing for women to stop those behaviors. Everyone should come as they are and stop the fake advertising.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:15 AM
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You're just confirming what I said. Immediately try to call me a predator for calling you out on misuse of the word rape. Using hyperbole and ad homs to try to make your own points appear stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:10 PM
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You arbitrarily throwing around the term rape does a disservice to actual rape victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:59 AM
0

Peak arguing in bad faith
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:58 AM
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Bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:55 AM
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She sure does like trying to call men rapists for exercising choice
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:52 AM
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She didn't misinterpret it, she is arguing in bad faith
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:34 PM
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Great insight here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:27 AM
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I feel like the point you're trying to make is the physicality of men will become trivial, so men will be less needed, but I'm not sure. Mind expanding on your comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:24 AM
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The simplest answer is usually the correct one
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:37 AM
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Saying men aren't a monolith while actively trying to discuss men as a generalization is intellectually dishonest. Are you trying to have a discussion or do you believe everyone is a snowflake and are wasting everyone's time with the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:32 AM
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You're right. The OKCupid study did show men targeted the top women. I stand corrected. It is always a pain finding that study again, so for anyone in the future: https://gwern.net/doc/psychology/okcupid/yourlooksandyourinbox.html?hl=en-US
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:43 PM
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u/certain-pattern-8802 said he disagrees. I also disagree. Where is your proof overweight men don't go after overweight women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:09 PM
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There is a difference between existing and being statistically relevant. Nobody makes population level determinations based on a singular data point. Except you, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:01 PM
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Trying to pivot the conversation to whether the red pill offers mental health advice now? Anything to draw attention away from your inability to engage with the original point of blue pill grifting. Continued bad faith, as expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:37 PM
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The same thing happens from the blue pill side. It's a problem for any amorphous movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:57 AM
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Comparing physical health advice to mental health advice. How expectedly bad faith of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:44 AM
1

Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:57 AM
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This isn't school. If you want to teach, nobody is stopping you though. I don't see many people holding hands on this subreddit, so you're in the minority on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:39 AM
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No, it doesn't mean they aren't correct, it just means they aren't able to actually get to the part where they prove their correct. It ends up being a waste of other people's time. If your definition of a lay person is a high school education, even high school English teaches you the basics of supporting your opinion with sufficient analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:37 AM
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Certain spaces aren't for people who can't articulate themselves properly. This has been the way of the world and will continue to be so. Just because there is no gate and these people can participate does not give their words the same weight as those that are better suited for debate. What you're doing is advocating for a participation trophy. It's hard enough getting intent across in the short format of reddit. It doesn't need to be made harder trying to decipher the words of people who should…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:28 AM
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You were doing great until you started advocating for people who don't know how to debate to engage in debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:23 AM
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Raw data from a reputable source, peer reviewed journals, meta-analyses, white papers, academic textbooks, encyclopedias, government reports, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:29 PM
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Yes, I've been told to my face I wasn't tall enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:45 PM
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If the hourglass shape is unattainable, by default, my point that you're trying to use a medium often used for embellishment that shouldn't be used as a reflection of reality is confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:28 PM
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If you're healthy, anyone can have a crazy physique if you try hard enough. I don't think we need to get into the statistics of how many actually get there; which reflects actual desire. The point is that your analogy doesn't work because you're comparing a medium regularly used for fantasy that is disconnected from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:08 PM
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People make drawings that can reflect reality or be a caricature. This is completely disconnected from the range of people they are willing to date. Men draw super heroes with crazy physiques. Using your logic, they think the majority of men should be superheroes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:53 PM
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I personally think we should be pushing for women to be more authentic without makeup, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:49 PM
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You would think you don't need to point this stuff out
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:47 PM
4

Some things you can prove. Some things you can't. That doesn't justify using reddit as a source, that's for certain.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:39 PM
2

So referencing worse data than anecdotal evidence is supposed to be a good idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:51 PM
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I regularly see people on here referencing other reddit posts as proof for their opinion. Especially if it's one of those top 1% posters. It's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:47 PM
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You're an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:59 AM
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Being an introvert doesn't mean you never tried to directly approach women. It just means you're either not good at it or have scaled back because of being unsuccessful. Let's compare that to women, who most likely have NEVER tried, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:48 AM
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I think you've now turned introverts into this caricature of a troll. They have lives. They talk to people. They're just not approaching women directly for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:33 AM
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You can say you like vegetables but if you never eat them, it doesn't matter. Actions speak louder than words. If you are never exposing yourself to introverts, you are not attracted to introverts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:08 AM
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Isn't a generalization a personal opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:03 AM
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She tried hard with that whataboutism and strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:01 AM
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Still supporting the OPs position. Women want men to approach so they don't have to. Inherently selects against introverts. They are attracted to men who approach. Introverted women don't have the same level of problem as their male counterparts because men aren't selecting for that behavior. Their attraction is not dependent on women approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 10:54 AM
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It’s not that they’re more attractive because of those traits, Anything that attracts is attractive...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 10:47 AM
1

And my comment addressed that. Companies can and do already do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:53 AM
1

Also, what game are we playing where an analogy needs to be a 1:1 comparison in every regard. People always think they have a gotcha when your analogy differs by the smallest amount. As if that isn't innate to analogies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:52 AM
1

Maybe I'm misunderstanding. What did you mean by... Most companies won’t spend money to not do something, that would be rather unprofitable What money is being spent to not do something.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:48 AM
1

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 03:46 AM
1

The practice of having job postings open without the intention of hiring is well documented.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 01:25 AM
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A strategy not working doesn't mean it isn't being implemented. Are you saying this sub doesn't have white knights because people with balanced opinions exist? It goes the other way too. Some people have balanced opinions that are pro men but get labeled red pill on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:05 PM
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This. They will never admit it though. It's the same reason slaves used to betray their own. Trying to appeal to their owners for preferential treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:03 PM
1

I agree with everything you said. I'm just here because I like debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:06 PM
2

I provided examples. I'm talking on reddit, not writing a dissertation. If you want to refute it, provide your own data showing they are focusing on only toxic or a minority of women. We made the agreement, stick to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:27 PM
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Ok. I wanted to find quotes that specifically said most women but most of what I'm finding is references to women as a monolith. While definitely greater than the majority, it is slightly ambiguous and leaves it to you to assume whether they mean all women, some women, etc. I specifically found Rollo Tamasi's book, the rational male, to discuss "most women" throughout his discussions of PUA and female psychology. (https://dokumen.pub/the-rational-male-1492777862-9781492777861.html?\_\_cf\_chl\_t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:05 PM
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I don't think I've seen straight hate speech. You might think it's that, but saying mean things is not the same as hate speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:49 PM
2

Ok, I already know what I'm looking for but I don't have time to actually look right now, so could be a little bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:33 PM
2

So they can't be optimizing for the majority of women. I get that's why you said it. I was just repeating back your strategy And I dont see that shit at all. I have more proof they dont do it, but you called them trolls. Ok, since you want to be coy about it, I'm going to link some data. If you don't have legitimate sources to counter it, you concede. Deal? Otherwise. I'm not going to waste time with someone who is going to ignore the data anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:30 PM
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So WTF are you doing claiming "The redpill is about optimizing for the majority of women". There ZERO PROOF of that actually happening. You're on this subreddit every hour, so I'm not going to waste my time linking the usual data red pillers talk about, like dating site data etc. You already know. TRP influencers also claim themselves that what they are saying is to target the majority of women, so at a minimum, that is the intent, even if there wasn't data; which there is. And we weren't talkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:22 PM
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We aren't talking about feminism. We're talking about women. "People see" isn't a valid data source.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:06 PM
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I don't know where you would get reliable data proving either way. All you can really go on is the TRP ideology, and the ideology doesn't preach bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:01 PM
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There are plenty of topics that get started on both sides. I won't fight you on that. However, the downvoted and counterarguments are profemale dominated. Your point just means there are a bunch of people who think this is a fair subreddit, despite that not being the case when you drill into the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:58 PM
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You disagree because it doesn’t fit your “women are victims” narrative. See how unproductive that was.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:24 PM
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I don't know what "with zero they do" means but I brought that up to point out that by saying red pillers mainly target toxic women, you are also saying the majority of women are toxic, because red pillars optimize their strategy to work on the majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:22 PM
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People disagree with you, including me, and your evidence is to accuse male mods without naming them and saying trust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:19 PM
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I don't know, are you trying to date red pill gurus or are we debating red pill ideology?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:18 PM
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*made up what you wish they said
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:12 PM
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I don't think witch hunting means what you think it means A trap for what, verifying you aren't defaming mods?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:10 PM
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The proof is what they advise other men about in their channels.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:53 PM
1

Ok, no making things up, nice attempt at lying though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:51 PM
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Behavior in their personal lives has nothing to do with TRP ideology. Sort of like how a pedo priest has nothing to do with what the church teaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:50 PM
3

No, I said redditor's are a bunch of trolls
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:35 PM
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And is conservative. Most LGBT are liberal. So now we stop talking about majorities? You're just being lazy and can't or won't articulate your point. So now any analogy has to have everything exactly the same as what it's being compared to? Disingenuous argument. I've now watched the video. It was irrelevant. Just as I said. I noticed you didn't address you using reddit comments like a credible source. We both know why. You haven't shown where TRP preaches bigotry, just pointed at some reddit tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:19 PM
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Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:59 PM
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No, I still can't watch it and it's still irrelevant. It's been that way since the beginning. You're just being lazy and can't or won't articulate your point. Referencing redditor's for your source on reality is misleading at best and disingenuous at worst. Milo is the G in LGBT, just like your supposed bigot is your shining example of Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:13 PM
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Your video is irrelevant. I don't have to. A singular event with 1 individual as evidence against TRP is ridiculous. Milo Yianopolous is a bigot. I guess that means I just need to post him behaving that way to establish the majority of gay people are bigots, using your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:59 PM
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Again, I can't watch the video. Either give the full context or leave it because I can't argue against that which I don't know. Even if you found a guy calling a woman or trans a man, that still doesn't mean TRP actively preaches that as a strategy. Tenet, whatever you want to call it. It just means you found a clip of a bigot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:26 PM
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I can't watch your video right now, but I'm pretty sure a one off YouTube video of what looks like pop the balloon by the thumbnail, isn't going to move the needle on this topic. Also, I've never seen anyone in TRP preaching you need to be a bigot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:13 PM
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I didn't say they supported everything women care about. I said they were optimizing for the majority of women. Women say they support LGBT just like they say they support women's athletics. Look at actual support and ticket sales though. Look at actual support and LGBT rights constantly under attack with women as the largest voting block. There is a reason a fisherman doesn't ask a fish how to catch fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:07 PM
4

I think you may have responded to the wrong person
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:58 AM
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The men in red pill are optimizing for the majority of women. If you want to call the majority of women toxic, so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:53 AM
1

See, you're moving the goalposts like I said. Coercion isn't solely about physical threatening. You conveniently cut off the rest of the sentence because you know you can't defend anything you said. You're full on manipulating direct quotes to avoid conceding. But there would be legal consequences and other factors involved due to her situation of being in a country where she knows no one else More platitudes and nothing to back it up, as I predicted. ...which would likely affect her decision-ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:43 PM
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I gave specifics about compromised consent Your specifics didn't show physical threats, blackmail, or any other type of threat that could be enabled by a policy like this. The immigrant could, at any time, exit the relationship and there is nothing the other party could do about it that is enabled by this policy. Simply saying the person would have to return to their previous situation is not coercion. There are countless programs that require immigrants to return to their country when it has en…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:58 PM
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Your argument is merely "I refuse to acknowledge it as coercion, because 'reasons', even though there are measurable legal repercussions directly affecting consent and otherwise healthy relationship dynamics." I'm not the one engaging in bad faith here. You refer to it not fitting the definition of coercion as "reasons". Another example of bad faith argument on your part. I asked you to show where people would be forced or threatened into a relationship. You gave none and then claimed victory. E…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:51 PM
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I get it, there are bad actors everywhere. Saying there is the existence of bad actors isn't a counter for not doing something. Further, this is a discussion of whether it is coercion or not. The fact still remains, these are adults making the decision to move to a foreign country for a relationship. People make this decision WITHOUT government programs RIGHT NOW. There is no force and there is no threat for them to enter into the relationship or for them to leave it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:42 PM
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If you couldn't (or refused to) comprehend my adequately outlined arguments, that's on you. Same to you. See how that works when you refuse to engage in good faith? You already agree with OP and don't want to question your stance so you're basically doubling down with with what amounts to "Nuh-uh!" You already disagree with OP and don't want to question your stance so you're basically doubling down with what amounts to "Nuh-uh!"; see how that works again? Did OP give any indication there would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:17 PM
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No, I addressed problems with OP's stance in concrete terms and specific questions. "Repeating a falsehood doesn't make it true." And that's clearly not what's going on in OP's scenario. No, it's not clear. We are currently arguing about it. I never claimed it is. Nice strawman though. You literally brought up sex as an example. How much more red handed can you get. Nah, you just don't want to call it slavery when coerced-at-best trafficking-at-worst sex is involved. Referenced sex as a main rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:21 PM
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If you have an issue with Visas in general, I can accept that argument. I don't need to bother defending what has been agreed upon by the US Congress and has been a part of the US giving immigrants an ability to chase th American dream since 1990. By the way, still doesn't fit the definition of coercion. Missing out on a beneficial opportunity in relation to your previous status is not being coerced. Using that logic, anything is coercion if it is worse than your previous living conditions. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:16 PM
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So you're literally arguing for sex slavery. Thank you for proving my point. More baseless conjecture. Do those other revocable visas include sex slavery as a legal requirement? No? Then they're not the same thing. Don't pretend otherwise, you're just embarrassing yourself. You keep loading assumptions like they are facts and building your argument on it. Someone who is willingly doing something and has the ability to remove themselves from the situation whenever they want is not a slave. A rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:11 PM
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A relationship isn't just about sex Someone willingly coming to a country who has the ability to leave whenever they want is not human trafficking. You really want it to be for some reason though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:07 PM
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No, only the men who are in favor of arguments like OP's. And it isn't solely about immigrants either; those men tend to view all women as objects. But they view immigrant women (whether accurately or not) as easier targets, especially when the women at home aren't tolerating their abuse. Baseless Ad hominem Would there be legal ramifications such as (but not limited to) deportation if the woman wanted to leave the "relationship?" Would the woman have freely chosen to be with that man in the fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:19 PM
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Do you believe intelligent people can't possibly be coerced? Not even when there's literal government pressure for them to prostitute themselves in order to move to a better place than where they currently are? A government offering an opportunity is not coercion. Coercion is based on force or threat. Explain how the government would be forcing or threatening anyone. Not when said "pArTnEr" is treating a person like an object with the government's approval (and enforcement.) Begging the question…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:49 PM
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The simple fact you're saying it is coercion means you're the one saying it. OP didn't mention coercion, you did. ...they aren't offered proper opportunities; Isn't finding a partner and moving from 3rd world to 1st an opportunity?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:26 PM
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You're implying either these women don't deserve their own agency or don't have the mental capacity to make educated decisions about their life. Don't know which one is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:16 PM
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I'm no guru and I've been locked down and out of the game too long for my strategy to be relevant today. That being said, in college, the name of the game was house parties. Even if you barely knew anybody there, women lower their guard more because it's implied you are safer by virtue of being invited. People are already there to have a good time and be looser. I imagine this can still be achieved with local hobby groups. I only know what I actually lived though. Edit: I will also add, I applie…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:24 PM
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You're right about that being the reality of a lot of women. That doesn't mean you have to play that game. Any woman who thought I was a second option was instantly relegated to non-serious relationship status. If that is all you care about, your strategy works great. I look for something more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:17 PM
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Waiting for someone to settle for you isn't the way
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:12 PM
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That doesn't extrapolate to being shamed for giving men a chance. It means what it says, choose better. Kind of like the thing you would tell a guy who tried to date homeless women. The reason they are homeless is most likely a huge red flag and the simple fact they are primed to take advantage of you is a red flag in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 12:44 PM
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I've never seen anyone looking unfavorably on women giving men a chance. You're just making things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:45 AM
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A man seeking to date homeless women would immediately be labeled as "preying on a desperate woman." Someone in desperation is also way more likely to just be taking advantage of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:31 AM
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Good insight. Hadn't thought of it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:28 PM
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Apparently, if u/aikendrumstick isn't experiencing something, it doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 11:11 AM
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Finally, someone keeps it real.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 11:08 AM
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I'm getting your point, I'm just trying to convince you there is a better way to look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 07:25 PM
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You can acknowledge someone is past their prime without thinking less of them. Think of any hero or celebrity. Would you consider them lesser just because they can't do what they once did in their prime? Or do you acknowledge that everyone degrades, including yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:31 PM
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This is actually pretty zen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:14 PM
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People like to reduce men to just lusting after young women. The reality is, once you are in a relationship, more factors are taken into account than looks. Will young people always be more attractive physically? Of course. However, just like your favorite shirt, you won't leave your partner just because she isn't what she once was. This is assuming we aren't talking about weight, which is usually in her control and an indication of other things going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:00 PM
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Not going to answer the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:19 PM
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Here is your source. Once again, I provide evidence, you provide conjecture. https://richardfelson.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/sex-assault-archives_onlinepdf.pdf?hl=en-US
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:18 PM
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This is a total non sequitur. ​Saying that men rape women purely because they hate them ignores a huge, basic fact, sexual attraction. Most men are heterosexual. When a predator commits a terrible crime, he targets a woman because that aligns with his sexual orientation, not because he is motivated by an ideological hatred of all women. ​To see why this argument breaks down, look at it like a bank robbery. A bank robber targets a bank because that is where the money is. They don't rob a bank bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:59 AM
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Only you didn't justify anything. You provided no evidence. Case closed. You have no argument to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 01:12 AM
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You're making an affirmative claim. The onus is on you. Not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 01:10 AM
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You didn't meet a burden of proof by any reputable metric. It's absolutely wild you're asking for evidence without providing any yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 01:02 AM
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I can't tell if you're trolling or are in a debate subreddit with no idea how to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:58 AM
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That isn't evidence. That's conjecture.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:55 AM
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You provided no evidence. If I somehow missed it, please quote it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:54 AM
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Let the record show, I called you out on having an unsubstantiated affirmative argument and you responded with nothing; then tried whataboutism against nebulus reddit claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:47 PM
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The rest of your comment doesn't support your claim. While it's a true statement on its own, it does not support your claim that most rape and murder of women is automatically based on misogyny. You're just making an adjacently related point with no data to connect it to what you're saying. Peaches eventually go bad. Sometimes a worm gets inside and causes it to go bad faster. That doesn't mean you get to say most of the peaches go bad because of worms. You need to show where that is the case wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 07:47 PM
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The rest of your comment doesn't support your claim. While it's a true statement on its own, it does not support your claim that most rape and murder of women is automatically based on misogyny. You're just making an adjacently related point with no data to connect it to what you're saying. Peaches eventually go bad. Sometimes a worm gets inside and causes it to go bad faster. That doesn't mean you get to say most of the peaches go bad because of worms. You need to show where that is the case wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 07:09 PM
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Yes it is Low effort response. Just like all of your comments. You never have anything substantial to back it up. Just low effort rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:54 PM
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>Correct. You went from "the vast majority of women are going after the same small percentage of top men" to "dating is not perfectly balanced." I never changed my position. Pointing out that dating apps are heavily unbalanced is just how you describe the structural bottleneck where a small percentage of men get most of the attention. According to the SwipeStats tracking data, the median right-swipe rate for women is under 10%, while the male match rate drops to around 5%. That isn't a retreat; …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 11:25 PM
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There's the motte and bailey fallacy. A motte-and-bailey means switching to a completely different, safe argument when challenged. I didn't change my position or switch up the argument at all. You claimed that the idea of women going for a small percentage of top men was total bullshit, and I responded by pointing out the mathematical imbalances built into how these apps operate. Providing actual context and reasoning for my original claim isn't a fallacy, it's just backing up my point with fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 09:43 PM
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No you can't, because the "majority of women going for the same small percentage of top men" is bullshit. You see what you want to see. Saying the digital dating market is totally balanced ignores how apps are built. Real data from dating apps shows huge imbalances. The vast majority of likes from women go to a small percentage of male profiles. Denying that these apps create intense competition and leave a lot of men out ignores the math behind how modern dating works. I love how many red pille…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:18 PM
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Oh my bad, I was talking to her in your defence
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:53 AM
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Where did you get 80% from? The study doesn't mention anyone 34+ either. That is called making things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:35 AM
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People love twisting the word coercion to mean whatever they want in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:06 AM
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You're right, she should have to defend against arbitrary statistics you've made up. What was she thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:05 AM
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All of the above
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:27 PM
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Lying to yourself is never the way. Lying to her isn't the way either. You don't have to be mean about it, but maybe phrase it to being more about her overall health.
/r/Divorce_Men31/05/26 07:24 PM
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I hate to break it to you, but 135 is already overweight for 5'3" the writing was on the wall when you met her.
/r/Divorce_Men31/05/26 01:07 AM
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Whatever you need to tell yourself I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:14 PM
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Never thought I would see you concede a point. Kudos.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:27 AM
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"I'm just asking questions"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:24 AM
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The female aspect of dating is currently wait for the man to approach
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:17 AM
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The same can be said about the woman who is also refusing to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:30 AM
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She's having a hard time coming to grips she agrees with OP
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:27 AM
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This sounds like you're calling women large, ape-shaped jellyfish, since the dynamic is currently flipped.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:25 AM
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I don't think what I said has anything to do with the OPs statement being false. You're proving my statement right with your follow-up comment. You already admitted you do it on purpose so I don't know why you're trying to play coy now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:38 AM
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She loves pointing out the autism as much as possible too. Makes me wonder if it's just made up to use as a shield.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:23 AM
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Can confirm. Seen her try to stroke flames on here all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:13 AM
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u/brief_mongoose_7291 is not u/Inquiz_
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:41 PM
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You aren't responding to the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:28 PM
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Seventh Day Adventists believe the apocalypse is coming any day now while reformed Presbyterians believe the rapture is a metaphor for the gradual reclaiming of the world through people accepting Jesus, but they're both still Christians. Your analogy is comparing the manosphere to religion, how else do you refute the analogy being bad other than showing the manosphere is not like a religion? You're comparing water to asphalt and pretending me saying asphalt isn't water at a fundamental level is …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:31 PM
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You're trying to prove the manosphere isn't a religion, which I never claimed it was. I'm claiming your analogy isn't a good analogy. You've failed to defend its legitimacy so now you're trying to weasel out of it. No, they pretty clearly challenge institutions. I disagree. You're going to have to show me where. Edit: Actually, pointing to a few edge posts isn't going to fix anything. We just fundamentally disagree on how that sub functions. I said I never made the argument you claimed, I didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:03 PM
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First, this is a requirement you invented from whole cloth. You're deflecting from the fact that your religious analogy was a bad fit. Religions are organized, centralized, and self-identified. The groups we are talking about are none of those things. The overlap you keep insisting on is heavily exaggerated by critics who want to treat an entire internet ecosystem as a single hivemind. An MRA dealing with custody law in a courtroom does not share an ideology or a guru with a red pill fitness coa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:05 PM
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You can laugh at the phrasing all you want, but accusing me of using AI is just an easy way to dodge the actual points. Let's look at the logic here. First, your comparison still fails. Red Pillers, MGTOW, and MRAs do not share a foundational text or a central figure. Jordan Peterson openly criticizes MGTOW, calling them pathetic, and Andrew Tate is roundly mocked by old-school MRAs for being a grifter who monetizes loneliness. They do not agree on solutions, methods, or philosophy. The only thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:00 PM
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Your Christian denomination analogy actually highlights the core flaw in your argument. Seventh-Day Adventists and Presbyterians both explicitly claim the label of Christian, share a foundational text, and acknowledge the same central figure. The groups bundled into the Manosphere do not share an organization, a foundational text, or a self-identity. An MRA arguing about family court statistics in a legislative hearing is not operating from the same framework, goals, or texts as an anonymous tee…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:18 PM
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You're proving the original poster's point about linguistic bundling, just from the opposite side of the fence. ​First, claiming the Venn diagram between MRAs, MGTOW, and Incels is a "perfect circle" is a massive oversimplification. Materially and ideologically, they are vastly different. An Incel operates on fatalistic biological determinism, believing it is over because of genetics. A Red Piller operates on hyper-agency and sexual capitalism, believing that if they lift, make money, and game t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:52 PM
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I'm not saying your points are wrong. I'm not saying your examples don't happen. I am saying your examples are extreme. Chores have gotten easier and a lot of people misrepresent the amount of effort their putting into family work. However, most people are spending significant time doing things other than drinking wine and scrolling TikTok. Most people don't enter relationships looking to lure others into lovelessness and abuse. People aren't having sex behind a dumpster 10min after meeting some…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:07 PM
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Stay at home mothers spend most of their drinking wine and scrolling tiktok ...a woman who lured him into a loveless, settling, exploitative, and abusive relationship with the intent of weaponizing the corrupt family and criminal courts against him and divorce "graping" him from the start ...all of that humiliation in order to get what she gave to a top-guy behind a stinking garbage dumpster 10 mins. after meeting him
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:55 PM
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Giving the same answers does not mean giving all of the answers. You're strawmaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:51 PM
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He has a point. His graphs show what women are doing. Your study is just what women are saying. Weaker evidence from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:49 PM
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Constructive criticism so don't shoot the messenger. Your points would land better if you cooled the hyperbole a little. Detractors feel like they are still correct when you're pointing at extreme examples, even if your point still stands under reasonable conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:40 PM
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I disagree with that take. Blue pill has a specific meaning. Generally someone who accepts mainstream societal narratives unquestioningly. It is naturally at odds with TRP. I agree with a lot of things TRP has to say but I don't consider myself red pill. I don't consider myself blue pill either. If you think TRP is generally accusing outsiders as being blue pilled it's probably because you're blue pilled and accurately get called out for being so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:33 PM
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I guess your definition of criticism is avoiding addressing the topic all together.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:29 AM
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Funny, I'm thinking the exact same about your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:24 AM
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Your argument was based on a hypothetical and his was based on reality. That was the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:50 AM
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I gotta ask, what about my comment were you downvoting exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:27 PM
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I noticed you never answered how one can not act desperate but have desperate energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:41 PM
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I'll leave you to enjoy all that copium you're on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 02:19 PM
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I watched you pull the DARVO bit on here before when it was obvious you were losing the debate. It was a cry for help then and it's a cry for help now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 02:13 PM
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This only made you look even more unhinged. I'm here to keep you digging the hole deeper at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:59 PM
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I have no idea what you're talking about. You've let delusion take over. I've been on PPD for a while. Never seen it this bad. You might actually need help.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:50 PM
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What evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:48 PM
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I didnt have to, you didn't say anything backed with evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:39 PM
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Mathematically, .002% is bigger than zero. Come back when you have more to offer than zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:38 PM
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No, that was my counter to the OP. Unless you have something to back up what you're saying, take a hike.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:37 PM
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If someone justifies a point with data and you are countering it without data, your point is irrelevant. Data > no data, when it comes to supporting a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:29 PM
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As opposed to your data of zero?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:21 PM
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No, I'm not saying that. I am saying it's better than basing it on nothing, which is what you're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:06 PM
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Stating the population means nothing. You have nothing associated with it. You're just blurting out a number. What is your adjacent industry? Also, we started this talking about data and you are already trying to steer it toward your supposed anecdotal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:57 PM
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I stated something that is a verifiable data point. You answered with nothing but conjecture. I didn't ignore anything. If I did, point it out. You can't handle being challenged on your own post. Go ahead and tuck tail "mate"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:49 PM
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This is a different thread, stay on topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:44 PM
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Thanks for verifying everything else I said by not addressing it. Also, you tried to say OF wasn't real. If it wasn't based on the fact it's on the Internet, then what did you base that on?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:43 PM
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What variables did I remove exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:39 PM
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Data > your conjecture
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:38 PM
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As opposed to your data set of how much?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:38 PM
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Nice source
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:07 PM
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It actually did address your point. Directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:04 PM
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That's the whole point, they aren't dating them. Most people don't pay for porn either. So yeah, it does mean you're desperate. Of course my comparison doesn't make sense to someone who thinks all things are fake because they're on the Internet. Where are you getting this assertion that so many men have multiple accounts? How much these men are paying is irrelevant, they are paying someone to give them which they cannot have otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:55 AM
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OF isn't real people engaged in a transaction? You think because things happen on the Internet they aren't real? I guess you're going to tell me news networks are fake because they are on YouTube and money in your bank account isn't real because you can't touch it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:41 AM
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This is false. One needs only look at the degenerates lining up to throw money at OF models and strippers. In particular, OF girls are selling more than sex, they sell fake companionship. They prey on lonely men and business is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:35 AM
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You can say I'm gaslighting to make yourself feel better I guess. You just don't want to accept you were jumping to conclusions. I think we've both laid our cases out as much as possible at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:38 AM
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I think you might think you're disagreeing with me in this statement. You aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:49 PM
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You're still making an assumption about their motivation. If you truly weren't making assumptions yourself, you would have just taken them at their word that they were clarifying. Asking probing questions to see someone's thought process does not automatically mean someone is trying to argue in bad faith. If a doctor asks you if you drink regularly, you wouldn't launch into a diatribe about them accusing you of being an alcoholic. You would recognize they are determining the type of person you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:41 PM
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You conveniently left out the preceding and following words in the sentence... ...I asked because I did not assume anything in the first place, I notice some women here say they want equality but expect men to pay for dates which is a double standard, it is important when someone throws words around to make sure it means the same thing or at least understand what the word means for the other side you are debating otherwise there really is no point we would be talking different things past each o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:24 PM
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Except just because you did something to earn a reward doesn't mean you just stop doing things that got you the reward. You're operating on a non sequitur
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:04 PM
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No. They didn't admit. You just assumed. Now you're so desperate to argue in bad faith you're making things up. Pretty wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:00 PM
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You accuse her of assuming and then justify it with nothing but your own assumptions. The hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:04 PM
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Why is the assumption the man doesn't give good sex because he is being rewarded?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:00 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:51 AM
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Some do, some don't
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:46 AM
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One of his points was that men need to just drop their standards and date heftier women. My counter is that is already happening and even fat women aren't having an issue getting men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:24 PM
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And it doesn't refute the fact that those women are dating a 600 lb man. That's irrelevant You did just as I said. Didn't provide anything to back up your original statement. Just endlessly filibustering. My job here is done. Nice try "blue pill man"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:01 PM
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Wait, you think the entire relationship is made up because it was on a reality show? I just want to see you say it. And? The dudes had partners before the show too. This doesn't refute the fact those men are dating a 600lb woman. I pointed out OF girls are real people running a business because you attempted to say they were fake because they were on the Internet. Again. I've given way more actual evidence than you have. Which is nothing. You haven't even attempted to. Because you have nothing. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:49 PM
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Reality TV is based on reality. They had boyfriends before the show. OF girls are also real people running a business. Using that is leagues better than referencing troglodytes on reddit. Just because reddit is on the Internet and other real things are on the Internet does not make them equal. The fact you don't realize that is concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:43 PM
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I literally referenced my 600lb life. Pretty strong indicator. You can also just look at any OF girl and see the men fawning after them. Or actually go outside for once. Your turn, since you've continued to provide nothing and we are 3 comments deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:31 PM
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Referencing reddit comments to prove your point is absolutely wild and just strengthens what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:28 PM
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It sounds like you're the one who has no idea what they're talking about. All of your examples have dudes simping after them. Don't believe me? Even the chicks on my 600lb life have boyfriends. Other than that, you managed to use just as much conjecture as the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:14 PM
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The whole discussion is about generalities. If I say humans have two arms, do I need to clarify that paraplegics exist? Pointing out the exception to a generality is just arguing for the sake of arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:07 PM
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Humans love punching down. "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." Lyndon B. Johnson
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:33 PM
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Being too picky is part of failure. Nobody has sympathy for the millionaire who starves because they couldn't eat caviar.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:19 PM
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Okay, that sounded smart at first but there are reasoning mistakes here and there. Bateman’s Principle and Trivers’ Parental Investment Theory explain mating behavior. Together, they demonstrate why males are almost always the competing sex and females are the choosing sex across the animal kingdom, including throughout human history. Triver's theory has a simple rule: the sex that invests more in the offspring becomes a scarce resource for the sex that invests less. The female is biologically f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:12 PM
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Dehumanizing the other side of a debate isn't the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 07:50 PM
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She's only here to search for someone she thinks is an incel to dunk on
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 09:26 AM
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You can focus on how the OP structured their main statement. However, they framed the entirety of their post around the next two sentences after their opening statement: struggling to participate in dating versus struggling to get your ideal outcome from dating. Those are not the same thing, and men and women experience them very differently. This is the part I am talking about. Perhaps we have been talking past each other the whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:16 PM
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I think we need to look at the intent of the words. Everything OP mentioned were not problems that existed outside of the initial dating phase for men. To the contrary, everything you listed were problems that exist for women either outside of dating completely or in the relationship phase. That is the difference. Think of it this way. If a rich man complains about how much he is being taxed, is it comparable to the poor man who isn't able to earn that amount of money in the first place? The pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:36 PM
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Yeah, dating related. It also exists outside of dating though. That is his point. Men have dating issues that are strictly about dating. Not dating related. Dating centered.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:26 PM
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Notice how you had to say car in front of accident, workplace in front of sexual, and sport in front of injury? It's because those are separate things when you don't add the qualifier. I see his logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:51 PM
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I think your train of logic is flawed. TRP isn't for people who already are having success IRL. If you're already having success you don't need it and probably aren't seeking out advice on it. Like all online advice, it is sought out and used by people who have been unsuccessful or don't even know where to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 01:51 PM
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You just described shutting down the whole subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:37 PM
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A lot of men tried that before going to TRP and failed. I'm an interesting case because I already found out a lot of what TRP says through personal experience before I even knew what it is. I also see the toxic part of it very easily because of that same experience. For sure TRP has devolved to have people preaching the wrong thing. The same can be said of feminism and other movements though. I think it is just something inherent to large movements. You can't keep the crazies out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:08 PM
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Like you said, it's about more than self improvement. It's about understanding female behavior and how to operate in the dating scene with success.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:01 PM
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TRP doesn't hate women. There are people who turn it into that though. By the nature of the pipeline. People looking for answers after becoming jaded by initial attempts are steered toward a darker world view. Influencers are more than happy to capitalize on this, just like any other movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:49 PM
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IMO the self improvement is largely included as a means to support the dating advice. That is probably why you think it sounds so bland. You're right. There isn't anything particularly novel about it. I still don't see anything no true Scotsman about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:38 PM
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You're going to need to explain how it is a no true Scotsman fallacy. Sure, some of TRP says is nothing new. Maybe even most of it. It's still packaged in a way that gained notoriety. Much in the same way equal rights movements were around long before BLM or feminism. Using your logic, neither should exist because the concept was already around.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:17 PM
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Red pill doesn't say to forget about everything else. It's specifically focused on the dating world and self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:01 PM
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Life is about more than sex. Being fulfilled in other ways makes you happier regardless of whether you're also having sex or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:59 PM
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I disagree. I have females that are friends that I don't find attractive. I'm perfectly fine being friends with them as if they were the same sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:52 PM
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Think of it this way. You're perfectly fine being close friends with those of the same sex. They even probably understand you better than someone of the opposite sex can. So why seek out a relationship with the opposite sex over the same sex? There is only one reason ...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:41 PM
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Friends can have deep meaningful relationships very close to a romantic one IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:01 PM
2

Yes, living with a friend alleviates loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:59 PM
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Thats like paying full price for a luxury sports car that looks beautiful in the driveway but has no engine. Sure, you can make it work, you can make anything work if you really want to, but it isn't going to be fulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:51 PM
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A romantic relationship contains many things, to include sex. If you can't have a conversation without straw manning someone's position, perhaps don't engage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:35 PM
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That's called a friendship
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:11 PM
1

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:04 AM
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No, you had to prove you actually know what you are talking about. The fact that you couldn't and immediately resorted to ad hominem attacks just shows to everyone the level of ignorance you're operating on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:10 AM
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You didn't define the term. So you've confirmed my assertion. You don't actually know. I will make it easy for you. the process of attempting to influence another person through the use of threats, punishment, force, direct pressure, and other forms of power. -APA Let's say I endorsed nagging, which I didn't. It still wouldn't fall under threats, punishment, force, direct pressure, or a form of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:07 AM
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You have no idea what coercion means and are trying to engage in debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:55 AM
1

Where did I say to persist and nag? Again. Strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:53 AM
2

If you are saying it is a matter of can't rather than won't, you can have a clear conscience on your end. Either way, your partner now has to make a choice of whether they want to stay in a relationship with a libido mismatch and they would be justified in leaving as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:52 AM
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Where did I mention coercion? Take your strawman elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:49 AM
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I think you're missing the point. Sometimes you can become aroused after the activity starts. You don't know if you don't try though. A partner who is unwilling to try is a selfish partner. An example might be going on a trip with a partner that they are excited about but you aren't. You liked it in the past though. If you go, you might like it. You don't know until you go though. Being unwilling to even try in a relationship is selfish. If you’re so sexually incompatible, just break up instead …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:07 AM
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I disagree. Sometimes it takes for an activity to get started and you can get in the mood. If sexual activity with your partner is such an issue, it comes back to whether you should be in a relationship at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:28 AM
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1 a week seems reasonable to me if people are busy but it isn't for others and I'm not going to say they are necessarily wrong. The issue is a large mismatch in libido and an unwillingness to try to adjust for your partner. Also, if you want to be in a healthy relationship, yes, you must compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:24 AM
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As you've said, resentment works both ways. That's why both parties must compromise. One might make an attempt to get in the mood sometimes. The other might use their hand sometimes. Always acquiescing to denial is unhealthy though. Shows a lack of commitment from the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:17 AM
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A relationship being healthy with only one party benefitting is a wild take.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:58 AM
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Even if I were to agree, which I don't, that doesn't make it healthy for a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:54 AM
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I agree. If this is happening, someone needs to reevaluate. It isn't healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:49 AM
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A relationship takes compromise. If you think engaging in an enjoyable activity with your partner is something you have to be forced into, perhaps you should reevaluate your commitment to the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:32 AM
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Being offended that someone is not giving you their best has nothing to do with who the person is that they previously gave their best to. What matters is that they aren't giving it to you. They don't see you as deserving of it. I once found out my employer was paying someone who had worked at the same place for less time than me, more money. I was upset with the employer, not the employee. Same here. You are upset with the person making the value determination.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:43 PM
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Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:31 PM
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u/leosandlattes is a mod?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:01 PM
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Nice strawman you built there. I see you have practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:57 PM
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Saying effort and boxes does a lot of heavy lifting. That can be anywhere from buying you a soda to a full on relationship. Please elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:24 AM
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How can you both be for casual sex and also don't want to sleep with people you're attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:48 AM
6

They say/said the same thing about drugs and alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:45 AM
2

Militaries can create violence. They also serve as a deterrence to violence or can stop it (See WWII).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:24 AM
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You said: Why do some men claim they don't hate women but do nothing to stop men killing and raping women? I said men do and gave you examples of such. That's it. You either have me confused with someone else or you're building a straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:32 PM
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Like?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:46 PM
3

What pivot? Violence is the only defense against violence. You've provided nothing to refute this point. Meanwhile, I have the entire history of humankind behind me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:44 PM
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What do you think happens when someone brings violence to your door and you don't stop them? Honest question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:37 PM
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You stop violence with violence. What other way is there? You will never eradicate violence, it is human nature. You can only hope to beat it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:49 PM
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We aren't talking about me, we are talking about men in general. If you think police and military don't stop violence I'm not sure I can continue a conversation with someone engaging in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:44 PM
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This right here
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:37 PM
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Men make up the majority of law enforcement and military. Who do you think is stopping those evil men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:32 PM
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I don't think simping or being a chubby chaser inherently means they are settling either. It does mean there's always a line of guys waiting in the wings though. No matter how low value a woman might sink in the court of public opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 07:56 PM
2

Who says I don't do it on other comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 05:43 PM
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I'm not disregarding. I'm calling you out on not having anything else other than rhetoric. Big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 04:06 PM
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The McNamara fallacy requires complete disregard for which cannot be measured. That doesn't translate to basing your entire argument on the unmeasurable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:49 PM
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Because of people deciding to rely on rhetoric instead of actually backing up what they say. What you are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:37 PM
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You realize the opposite view can just say the same thing, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:30 PM
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Nothing says you're right like not backing it up with anything
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 02:34 PM
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False dichotomy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 02:15 PM
4

She sure did turn to the ad homs fast
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:16 AM
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And women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:11 AM
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You have my attention, how is air conditioning sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:54 PM
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You say that like women don't have the same problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:56 PM
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Nice story bro
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:02 AM
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Now she's resorted to comparing men who struggle with dating cues to rapists. Should tell you all you need to know about what she really thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:14 PM
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I've never seen someone straw man so hard they forgot what the original argument was, then proceed to concede the original point because of it. I'm not going to waste my time reminding you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 07:35 PM
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Sounds like you just conceded
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 06:56 PM
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It's already been said what else they do. The fact that you don't understand, still, just bolsters my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 06:18 PM
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At this point, it's pretty clear you're the one that doesn't understand how they work
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:59 PM
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It's always the ones who feel the need to say that who care the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 11:04 AM
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Ironically enough, calling something ultracringe is just as lame. You might get a pass if you're Gen Z.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 10:14 PM
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I can second psychacks with Orion Taraban. Good stuff there.
/r/Divorce_Men01/05/26 06:00 PM
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Two different people have tried to explain to you how it is. Do with that what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:05 PM
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Reading a fail comment twice doesn't unmake the fail
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 04:48 PM
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It's not about liking it. You just failed to provide a counter argument in general. I will be fair, perhaps I misread your comment. Bring it forth again if you feel you still did.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 04:45 PM
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Nice try at quoting it out of context. Here is what you missed: One of the biggest rebuttals people love to pull on here is the claim that “oh xyz men are in successful marriages”. Keep in mind many of these polls on successful marriages do little to actually interrogate the happiness of the couple. In the first three sentences, OP establishes merely saying the existence of marriages is not enough and elaborates on why. You had a second chance to read the OP and still failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 04:09 PM
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That's a statement that doesn't support your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 09:27 AM
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Would you say a physically abusive marriage is successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:40 AM
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Did you even read the OP....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:35 AM
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You think sex workers cost more than a wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:33 AM
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If your doubling theory were true, wouldn't that be cancelled out by gay men? If it isn't, it would be because women still command the prevailing stat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:58 PM
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You find it weird that some people view flippant sex as a fault? Specifically, your choice to call it weird makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 07:44 AM
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Great responses here
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:50 PM
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It's not as simple as that when you're talking about social interactions
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:18 PM
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If she hasn't gotten it by now. It's pretty clear you're talking to someone who is part of the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:04 PM
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Damn dude, you countered her uno reverse card with your own
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:02 AM
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You're an incel if you try your best to look good?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:04 AM
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You can change the terminology, my point still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:03 AM
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Most of the women on those obese TV shows have boyfriends. There is always a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:10 PM
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Don't believe this guy, "people are wrong on the Internet." Wait, that means you can't believe this statement either. The only way to truly get it right is to do the opposite of what I said; which is trust this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:50 PM
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Get a personal trainer
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:27 PM
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This right here. A lot of women pretend like looks don't come first for them; just like it does for men. It's a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:09 PM
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Don't forget it merits repeating endlessly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:48 PM
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They actually didn't forget. It was literally included in the last sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:22 PM
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This is reddit, nobody asked for your opinion either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:48 PM
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Grabbing my popcorn for this one
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:48 PM
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OP acts like men don't have to vet just like women. We are also expected to approach. It is actually worse for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:28 PM
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You can try to fit it in a silo all you want. The OP was clearly talking about feminism holistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:21 PM
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And still, you agree with his point that feminism largely feigns equality while simultaneously having the same lopsided expectations of men as pre-emancipation. At this point, I've tried to explain it all the ways I can. You've just decided to be disagreeable, despite agreeing. Edit: Just realized you're someone different. Point still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:28 PM
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You say you don't but then do every time you try to explain your position. Seems like you don't actually understand his point or you're stuck in some kind of cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:32 PM
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So you agree with him. Why are you continuing to respond like you don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:27 PM
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His point was that men historically do not date dependent on their partners financial status and women mostly date up, even after doing well themselves. Please show where you addressed this if you understood the point. Saying women don't want to degrade their standard of living is just agreeing with him. If you want to say we didn't like your response in that we were expecting you to attempt to refute it, OK. At that point though, why bother responding with the word salad and just say he is righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:23 PM
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The point of your comment whooshed right over her head or she is straw manning because nothing about her response addressed your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:02 PM
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u/responsibilityAny217 knows how to socially lubricate! I need to step my lubrication game up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:16 PM
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Nice story bro. Reads like AI wrote this. Locked in a bedroom? Doors don't work that way in most houses...
/r/Divorce_Men24/03/26 01:03 PM
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Tell me more about social lubricant
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:18 AM
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I don't get why some people bring up edge cases and then go "NoT eVeRyThInG iS tHaY wAy". No shit. There is always an exception. We are trying to have an academic discussion, pointing out the sky is blue is wasting everybody's time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 01:16 AM
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Just because you acknowledge black people can be racist doesn't mean you don't "get" the systemic oppression part. They are two distinct things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 10:12 PM
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There is no nuance. The definition of racism includes beliefs, attitudes, and behaviors. Full stop. There doesn't need to be a systemic backing for something or someone to be racist. It goes down to the individual level.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:38 PM
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Being able to enforce your racism doesn't mean you aren't racist. It just means you have no power. Down voting me because I disagree with you, then claiming mental superiority while not even understanding the meaning of the word is rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:20 PM
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Saying that someone can't be racist if they don't have the power to exert their will is a wild take
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:01 PM
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Your logic doesn't make sense. Women are still using it as an insult. Using your logic, calling someone gay the F word is OK as long as it's because they are weird and not because they are gay. That's ignoring the fact the two things will go hand in hand a lot. The men not getting laid are often awkward. Using the awkwardness as justification is just a cop out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:40 PM
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Great job bolstering his point
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:36 PM
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Great advice that applies to women as well. More men, but also women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 12:53 PM
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Add some more laughing emojis so you can pretend you refuted what I said harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:57 PM
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Exiting because you have argument is conceding.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:53 PM
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I'm here to school you on proper discourse. You're the one who went on a thread about dick and decided to get offended enough about someone speaking on topic to start commenting. Look in the mirror. We are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:47 PM
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I disagree. I think him sharing his personal experience in a debate is fine as long as it is on topic and is tastefully worded. You just think because it is associated with a dick that somehow changes things. If this was about his leg you wouldn't bat an eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:39 PM
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You're right, an insufficient explanation is still an explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:13 PM
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Funny, I was thinking the same about you. I'm glad you decided to concede you were personally attacking him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:12 PM
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Been here a while. Deal with disingenuous debaters like you all the time. I enjoy calling you out on your BS. The floundering is entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 07:57 PM
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He brought studies. You ignored them and pivoted to launching ad hom attacks. It's clear what you are doing to everyone but you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 07:55 PM
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You can say that, but that isn't what your previous comments say. You just use the word "you" when responding. Additionally, saying he is doing something other men do is still talking about him directly and still a reach, so it isn't the dodge you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 07:50 PM
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Please explain how it is unnecessary to share your personal experience in a debate about dick size. Unless you are saying you just shouldn't debate about the subject at all. In which case, I would have to wonder what you are doing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 07:09 PM
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Only you did change. You went from speaking about him directly to saying you were talking about men as a whole after I called you out on how hard you were reaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:40 PM
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Pivot in the context of debate: Technique where a speaker shifts the focus to a different, more favorable topic or talking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:33 PM
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Ok, now you're not pivoting. Good on you for standing on what you say. Now actually address the fact you were reaching so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:30 PM
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Another pivot from personally addressing him to pretending it was about men in general again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:26 PM
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You went from personally accusing him to now saying it is about men in general. Let's not be coy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:24 PM
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You're clearly interested or you wouldn't be debating dick size on reddit. Sharing his personal experience is on topic for a reddit post about dick size.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:04 PM
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Expert level pivot there
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:02 PM
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He waited over several comments and then decided to share his personal experience. You're reaching hard here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:45 PM
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If you think finding less than 5 people for every hundred you comb through on a dating site before you even get to know them is a good use of your time, of which will be limited from all the swiping, have at it I guess. It's even more of a waste of your time if you're talking about giving less than 5 for every hundred you meet in person a look as well. That's a lot of outings in person... When I said commenter, I was referring to the person responding to her. It sounds like we have both clarifie…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:02 PM
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After your further explanation of your logic, I think I see where our disconnect is now. When the commenter said she assumed 5% wants a relationship with her, I interpret that as showing the chances of finding a partner are actually slimmer than 5%, so it is a bigger problem than she is letting on. At what point does lowering your chances of finding a partner become absurd? I don't know. Less than 5% sounds like a pretty low number to me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:18 PM
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I explained my logic for this before: By default, that 5% includes men who are not attracted to her, as you have no way of knowing one way or the other based on attractiveness of the man. Think of her 5 percent selection like a stack of lottery tickets she has hand picked from a convenience store. While she only chose the specific tickets she believes are winners, which represents the men she is attracted to, the physical stack in her hand still inherently contains losing tickets (men who aren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 06:19 PM
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I don't know how else to explain it if you won't accept her own words showing she includes the full 5% of all men she is attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:49 PM
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I'm not following what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:30 PM
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She said... If you find only 5% of men attractive, then you focus to filter through a smaller pool of men as the overwhelming majority was ruled out already. It's a lot less effort to filter through 5% of men than let's say 40% of men. She establishes she only 5% of men are attractive in the first sentence. Then establishes filtering begins at that 5%. By default, that 5% includes men who are not attracted to her, as you have no way of knowing one way or the other based on attractiveness of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:14 PM
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The original statement says they are attracted to 5% of men. That necessarily includes men that are unattracted to her. Which invalidates your statement it can simply be ignored. It is already part of the data set.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:54 PM
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I think we are still talking past each other. Whether it is an issue for the original commenter isnt what you refuted. You refuted the statement that they are assuming the 5% of men they are filtering from includes those that aren't interested in them. Where have you shown that this is not included? You cannot filter something that was not available to you in the first place. It would be like me saying I chose not to fly in the sky today, I chose to walk instead. It would be absurd. Flying is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:23 PM
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Sounds like an accurate recount of events. I don't see where your analogy backs up your statement though. Filtering choices has no bearing on what choices are available to you. You can say you have narrowed down the pool of men to 5%. That is not a correct number if many of those men aren't even interested in you. Just like saying you've narrowed down your pool of houses you want to buy and include houses that aren't for sale in that percentage. The moral of the story is, the percentage you've n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:05 PM
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I don't see where you are pointing that out. You're stating the selection process. That has nothing to do with what is available for choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:46 PM
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I think you are misunderstanding the statement. If you narrow down choices to 5% but 3% of that 5% isn't actually available to you, it isn't actually 5% you're picking from. It is 2%.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:17 PM
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Wow, a mod with nuance, Kudos.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/26 05:45 AM
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We can tell
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:51 PM
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Not when it makes them look like their trying too hard
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:49 PM
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I would expect that kind of behavior from someone who thinks adding laugh emojis to their comment gives it more credence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:40 PM
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We wouldn't know how proud you were of your comment if you didn't add the fake laughing emojis
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:34 PM
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Why are you interpreting something I outright said in my post? You read something and you interpret it. The two go hand in hand. Where did I say I was talking about everybody? When you said you were talking about the subreddit. Because if you’re going to talk shit about me on my own post, I expect accuracy. You aren't expecting accuracy, you're just trying to change the narrative retroactively so you don't have to concede anything. Case in point, you referring to the subreddit as a whole and now…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:06 PM
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You would have known that if you had actually read the post. That is what I interpreted from the beginning so I'm not sure what the point you are making is. Again, how does that translate to what you're claiming about me? I said all women because that's what the particulatr type of guys I'm talking about are saying. You didn't say you a were talking about a particular type of guy. You said you were talking about this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:10 PM
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So you just confirmed it was a compendium. I literally gave you the quote from your post that said "ALL women" I'm not going in loops with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:58 PM
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Maybe I misunderstood, but it reads like you're listing a compendium of arguments from the subreddit. Is that not the case? If it is, you were saying that the argument that pops up in the subreddit is "ALL women..."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:53 PM
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Saying "all women" is an absolute
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:37 PM
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Reread their words. I'm not going to rewrite what they said.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:36 PM
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That's exactly how debates work. See, I can only supply a statement like it's fact too. Implicit belief: I believe all women have had hookups before, and that quick sex with other men that they desire is the default.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:34 PM
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Dismantled the dissertation using a fraction of the words. She also loved saying everyone speaks in absolutes when the majority of people speak in general/averages.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:19 PM
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I think either I am misunderstanding you or you are misunderstanding me. She said she assumed the person served and you said they COULD have gotten discharged. I interpreted that as you saying she could have been wrong. But if you served, she would still be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:26 AM
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You said you served first so you didn't actually post an exception
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:32 PM
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I don't agree with this. Change comes from the people who drive it, not from circumstances. The only way for people to gain traction with the masses is through charisma. Can circumstances make your ideas more attractive? Yes. You still need charisma to sell it. The Industrial Revolution exploited workers for thirty years without significant legislative change. If misery alone drove reform, labor laws would have existed by 1880. Change only occurred when Teddy Roosevelt sold it, through charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:52 AM
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Circumstances are always at play. Either you're charismatic enough to use them or you're not. Using your logic, literally anyone could have done what he did because of "circumstances."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:30 AM
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It even says that no one liked or agreed with him until after ww1 Sounds like he still became charismatic then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:06 AM
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Reddits finest
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:11 AM
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Once you realize Lilith uses purple pill debate to Karma farm, it will all start to make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 07:42 PM
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Trying to draw the line between power and sovereignty is a fools errand. They are intertwined in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:24 PM
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Was this supposed to be a counter? You just bolstered his point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:22 PM
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She's just a karma farmer. Very sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:02 PM
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I didn't object to condemnation of it either. I didn't give any opinion on its usage other than acknowledging it exists in relationships as a strategy. You could just ask me what my opinion on it is but that wouldn't be conducive to your attempts to straw man my position. I will go ahead and answer the question you refuse to ask. Although the point at which asking for something becomes nagging is debatable, in my experience, once someone begins to nag over something, it is ineffective and I woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:10 PM
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Talking about nagging is not the same as saying people should nag
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:52 PM
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That's not what I'm arguing. I made that hypothetical because nagging is a common occurrence. You just need a straw man to argue against.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:48 PM
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A hypothetical counts as me saying people should nag?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:45 PM
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I never prescribed people should nag, nor did I opine on its effectiveness. Regardless, it is something both men and women engage in when in a relationship, for more than just sex. As a reminder, my point is that the efforts of the higher libido person should not be deemed as being any more or less ill intentioned than the other party.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:38 PM
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You continue to not read what I said and try to misrepresent what I said. To the point you have accused me of being pro wrape. We have nothing left to discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:35 PM
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But staying in a relationship with someone who isn't getting their needs met by you is being considerate and unselfish? Everyone has things they want out of a relationship. If you are in a relationship and receiving things you want out of a relationship from the other party, yet refuse to reciprocate on something important to them (assuming it is within reason), what else would you call that other than being selfish and inconsiderate?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:00 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:55 PM
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Like we've been talking about, there is nuance. It most definitely can be a lack of attraction. Or it can be the other person's standards are unreasonably high. Neither party is necessarily in the wrong, which goes back to my original statement. You have now indirectly agreed with what I said for two comments straight. I'm going to close this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:16 PM
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I will also add, most people have a requirement for sex in their relationships. Just like most people expect emotional support, compromise, the sharing of resources, etc. These things have to be worked through if they aren't being met to someone's standards. Sometimes it can't be reconciled, sometimes it can.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:31 PM
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Nothing I have said involved forcing yourself on someone. What a reach. You've just confirmed you have no intention of engaging in good faith. We don't have anything further to discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:27 PM
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I agree, there are a lot of men that stay in relationships they shouldn't. Just like women do. This goes back to my original point. It is just as much the woman's fault for staying in a relationship in which she isn't attracted to the other person as it is the man staying in the relationship. However, sometimes there are extenuating circumstances, like when kids are involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:15 PM
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See my comment above
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:00 PM
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Regularly, too much, and too little is subjective. Anyone would agree too much or too little of something is not good. This is, in effect, the Crux of our debate. You've said nothing of substance with this statement. Edit: Adding more after you edited your comment. It could demonstrate they only care about themselves. But using that logic, any time a party has a requirement in a relationship they are bad. Relationships are based on requirements. There is too much nuance to make a general stateme…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:56 PM
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So if your partner wanted to go to Disney world and nagged you about it (not the only way to go about it but we will go with nagging for now), if you went, the absolutely only way to feel about it would be bad. Using your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:47 PM
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Baking in negative assumptions to your response doesn't make it stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:33 PM
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Trying to convince someone to do something means you are trying to get them to want it. Obviously, the way you go about it can be counterproductive, but that goes for any time you are trying to persuade someone. Not just with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:40 PM
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Coercion involves using a threat for this. It is also a crime. You're telling me you walk around assuming most people in dead bedrooms are trying to coerce their significant other for sex? Another alternative is that you tried to hijack the negative connotation associated with coerce instead of using an accurate word, like convince. Which wouldn't be in good faith and calls into question whether you are trying to debate or just grandstand. A third alternative is, definitions aside, that you thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:32 PM
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Expand on what you mean by coerce please
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:37 AM
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Just to be clear, you are agreeing with the premise that the asking party is no more guilty than the party saying no, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:33 PM
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Ok, and if you don't want to have sex with someone, they are not pressuring you by asking. You also have 3 options after saying no if you don't like them asking. Why is the person asking in the wrong and the other person isn't in your eyes? Isn't it just 2 people who have 3 options in a relationship instead of this blame game you're trying to play?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:38 PM
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Ok, thanks for that statement, now address what I actually said. Requesting something does not mean you think you have a right to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:13 PM
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Can't the whole pressure thing be viewed in the opposite direction. The other person is pressuring you to have less sex and they are free to break up if they don't like having more sex? Saying someone "isn't allowed" is kind of pointing a finger at one party when both share in the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:15 PM
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Amazing how many times you had to rehash a simple concept because of the intellectual dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:17 PM
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Calling it now, her next comment is to move the goal post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:53 PM
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You're the police on what is weird I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:47 PM
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Bless your heart for assuming redditors are intelligent. Yes. I know, I'm included in that group.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 09:55 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 09:52 PM
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I disagree. So you need to provide more than "I said so" to back up your affirmative claim. As evidenced by your previous comments, I don't think you have the capacity to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:13 PM
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Yeah. I guess that would be worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:22 PM
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Dude was so proud of himself when he typed up that 2nd grade response.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:18 PM
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They aren't the ones asking for advice, so they aren't even in the context of what is being discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:14 PM
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She thinks saying the other person is wrong without any counterpoint is debating, it isn't worth your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:10 PM
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You're right. He projected that claim on you. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 02:28 PM
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I think you're right. I also think you can't pull off backing up your claim either. It's a waste reading both of your responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:49 PM
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At this point I think the guy you're responding to is arguing in bad faith. It's pretty obvious something that is entertaining is a benefit to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:28 PM
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This is what happens when you allow people with no idea of what it takes to formally defend a point into a debate. They think the braindead standards they use with their other braindead friends is legitimate because they're too ignorant to know otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 09:39 PM
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Someone made a generalized claim without data. You also made a claim without data, using even less specificity. Then try to tell me you need to have data to make a claim. I can't communicate with someone as disingenuous as you. Go learn how general debate discourse works before engaging in a debate sub or at least have enough self awareness to know when you're speaking outside of your knowledge base.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 03:26 PM
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The fact you think a comparison is supposed to be a 1:1 equivalence says everything about why you also think pointing out an exception is a sufficient counter to a generality. I already did my best to explain a basic concept of debate to you but you're more worried about pivoting your own original point to avoid feeling incompetent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:58 PM
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That's literally what most discussions on purple pill are and is the ONLY way to discuss most of the topics on it. Not only that, You wouldn't even be able to have a conversation about most things at scale without it. Laws and so much more are based on generalizations. You're just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:46 PM
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Making a point using the fact that it's possible rather than probably is barely making a point at all. We are speaking in generalities. Using the word "some" is useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:19 PM
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Men not fighting for joint custody is a whole different topic from chores. Women complain more than men, so self reporting of who does chores from women is dubious. Personally, I think women skew to doing more chores because women skew more toward staying home. Neither of us has anything solid to back our claims up though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 11:07 PM
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Where are you getting this notion that women are so much more reliable doing chores, all things being equal (which they usually aren't).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:34 PM
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I agree with secret, your counter to his responses was to say you don't know what he is talking about. You pivoted several times (he did too, but less), and you generally are just here to say your opinion rather than actually being open to debate or changing your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 10:28 PM
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If a guy will have sex with you, he has physical attraction on some level. Like you said, he might not want a relationship, but he, at the very least, has some attraction. You're kind of making OPs point for him. Men generally have lower thresholds for physical attraction, so when horny, they have less barriers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 01:44 PM
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It's almost like he is talking about the physical attraction that precedes to love. You don't get past this step first, you don't get the love.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 01:06 PM
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Do you want to be the generation that suffers so the next generation can adjust? There is a reason the can keeps getting kicked.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 11:05 AM
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I can't tell if this is a bot post or not. Can I get a bot check?
/r/Divorce_Men06/11/25 12:44 PM
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I'm asking you this because I genuinely want to know the answer: what does that have to do with anything that was said in this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:09 AM
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When someone talks about their struggle and you say everyone struggles, you are by default downplaying their struggle. True statement or not. Regardless of your opinion on men and women, don't try to be obtuse about your intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:16 PM
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He already addressed this point. Read the thread before you waste people's time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:45 PM
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You shoot down Tate because his experience is anecdotal, OK, acceptable statement. Your original response then used your own ANECDOTAL experience as a counter, not OK. You have now stated there are women who have sex without getting anything in return, most people wouldn't dispute that. However, it starts to be tricky to quantify how many actually do. Is it because they are young and don't yet value their sexuality enough to offer it in exchange for something? One can argue that is part of the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:05 AM
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I'm not defending Tate, but OP makes the statement women will mostly only have sex in exchange for something, then you make the statement women had sex with Tate for money; and think you defeated his argument. The inability for people on reddit to form a cohesive argument never ceases to amaze me. Couldn't do it, even when arguing against a slam dunk like Tate. Edit: grammar
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:51 AM
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You haven't attempted to engage with the topic of the thread in any meaningful way from the beginning. You're weak appeal to supporting a premise at this point is rich. Go back to eating crayons and let the adults continue the discussion, uninterrupted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:28 AM
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The voice of reason
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:18 PM
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You're clearly dealing with a child. She thinks using "lol" every other sentence and calling you upset because you disagree with her is some type of gotcha. The cope is obvious to adults but invisible to the socially underdeveloped.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:51 PM
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It's almost like there are degrees of acceptance and most things in life aren't binary.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 09:36 PM
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You do realize most jobs necessary for society to function aren't dream jobs, right? I'm going to be charitable and assume you do. Which would mean you're calling the people who enable you to enjoy many luxuries pathetic. Your username is fitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:17 PM
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You can throw around the word pathetic all you want. The truth is, most people aren't working their dream job man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:54 PM
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From my low effort research, Navada can get as cheap as $150. I would guess that is a handy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:13 PM
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We already have a test case, Nevada.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:11 PM
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As you said, legality would be the showstopper. Nevada needs to be the new law abiding incel mecca.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:00 PM
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You were saying prostitutes are expensive. I would argue they are cheaper than playing the dating game.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:57 PM
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I guess the legality would depend on where you live. You think dating enough to get to third base is cheaper than a prostitute?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:54 PM
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I've never agreed with the incel definition. As long as prostitutes exist, there cannot be an incel. It is likely they want more than that, to be wanted in some capacity. Even in a situation ship, you're at least receiving some type of validation, which an incel wouldn't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:49 PM
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Isn't that what single means,not in a committed relationship ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:40 PM
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I like this take
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:31 PM
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Thanks for clearing that up
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 02:44 PM
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I see this comment and also a graph from the NSFG that contradicts it in the comment right above it 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 01:36 PM
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So bringing up Carlin was a ridiculous comparison at best and boils your response down to "that wasn't creative enough for my taste." Brave and stunning take. Considering your discourse thus far, calling something bullying is pretty rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 03:04 PM
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Wait, you think comparing professional comedians to a rando's reddit post is some kind of own?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:26 PM
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7:1 you say. What city is this? Asking for a friend...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:39 PM
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I see what you did there
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:28 PM
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That is a better response, GJ
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:59 AM
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On the one hand you say you can't trust anyone (worst scenario). On the other hand you say don't worry about the worst things in life. Which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 08:46 AM
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You have to keep saying it because you aren't actually addressing the topic, you're just pointing out the obvious. People can do whatever they want it, great news. Let's try to meaningfully address the topic, which if I'm paraphrasing, is people being lonely and wondering why they can't find a sufficient partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 08:43 AM
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I think you're getting some men hitting on all the women, ugly or not, confused with hypergamy. They are not driven by the same motivations, nor do they have the same outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 03:19 PM
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Your comebacks have all been pretty weak, you should quit while you're behind. The sunken cost fallacy is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:56 PM
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Just give up, u/offtheredsand will never admit his logical inconsistency. Probably lied about being gay just to try to "win" too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:16 PM
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U/obviousredflag accuses you of arguing in bad faith then proceeds to leave snarky comments to your rebuttals
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 04:24 AM
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Under that definition, I agree, you would have trouble with women. Nobody wants to be controlled. An issue is that some people view bending to your partner's wishes as being controlled. Flexing to meet your partner in as close to the middle as possible is part of a healthy relationship. Obviously, the amount of flex is situational. Edit:grammar
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:59 PM
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What is your definition of objectifying?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:46 PM
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It's interesting you weren't this nuanced in your original comment. You were very comfortable talking in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:43 PM
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Isn't the hating women part the result of being unfuckable? Obviously, it creates a feedback loop, it still has an origin though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:34 PM
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Nice dodge
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:32 PM
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Owned u/yamb97 then they try to pull the "I'm more Vietnamese than you" card
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:52 AM
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I don't have anything to tell, you're the one making the assumed accusation. The burden of proof is on you. You just proved what I already said to be right again. Another attempt to avoid confrontation by framing your comment as a question too. I don't even need to say anymore, you've made my point for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:57 AM
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Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:51 AM
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Why would it be getting to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:46 AM
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Putting a question mark at the end of a sentence doesn't magically turn your assumed accusation into something else. If you're going to call the guy and orbiter and then call sarcastically call the guy an expert for not being an orbiter, grow a spine and state it plainly. You aren't fooling anyone anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:39 AM
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I don't think kinks are an exception, we all have them. You also moved the goal post, nobody is arguing whether an orgasm is about mental gratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:57 PM
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Being wanted can be part of it but I don't think it is necessarily a requirement. Your logic doesn't explain kinks or things like the "R" word.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:14 PM
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The topic is whether "pre-gaming" eliminates false perceptions and whether post nut clarity can be achieved by it. You just conceded that your mind gets something different from orgasm depending on context. Which means that there can be a difference. Defeating your original point that there is no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:08 PM
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You think a hand isn't different than a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 09:52 PM
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As a woman ages she loses physical beauty (in 99.9% percent of cases). A 40 year old might think that her value hasn't diminished or act like it hasn't diminished but in reality it almost certainly has. A divorced woman who is 40 who most likely has kids, is not as valued as a 25 year old girl who has never been married. I hope we don't need to argue that point. Not to mention, at 40 years old, your pool of men who are 40+ who are not currently in a marriage is very low. The men who are unmarrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 01:21 PM
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They think there'll be a point where they're more in demand than the women that are turning them down now are in. Doesnt seem like it was the point you were refuting, but OK. I agree that older women don't have zero options. The point is so obvious it's almost not worth mentioning though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 11:54 AM
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You think women don't have equal opportunity to be physically worse off? Which hurts them more since men lean more heavily on physical attraction. All things being equal, a 40 year old woman whose looks have declined with age but has acquired more status and wealth has had her options decline more than a man who is the same. That being said, if we are talking about inherent value, women always win because there are just a lot of thirsty guys out there. Easier access to sex means easier access to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:37 AM
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I don't think this is the gotcha you think it is. You're talking about the extremes. A normie in their 30s who has had a steady progression will have more money and status as they get older. 2 important metrics women are vetting for. Their stock has gone up from when they were younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 11:35 PM
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Have my unborn child
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:44 AM
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Fatality
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:43 PM
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Your words, not mine. Very telling about yourself that you would jump to that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:43 AM
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I know this is hard to imagine in your black and white world, but friends can also have utility and be an asset in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:19 PM
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Having a female friend gives you more social credibility with their friends. They are your spring board to other girls. I had a lot more success when I figured this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:35 PM
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At this point I think you're just upset I called you on not engaging the argument in good faith. Considering how you've engaged, I'm sure you'll respond to this so you can have the last word and "win" I got my answers, so I'm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:40 PM
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Do you even take a second to realize it's possible to have a neutral stance on something and see both sides or are you so wrapped up in virtue signaling and being the moral authority that things are only black and white for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:18 PM
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I'm not going to fight you on that one 🤣 That being said, I think other people share the sentiment of u/barely-moral in TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 11:09 PM
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Currently, u/barely-moral is disagreeing with you. So that is a false statement. Objective morality is a debated topic; so that the fact you think it's on your side and automatically negates their opinion affirms the fact that you think you are a moral authority. I'm not here to debate the concept of morality though. You've already answered my question about your moral stance as well. No need to derail any further.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 10:47 PM
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I never said you can't or shouldn't give your opinion. To the contrary, that is the whole point of PPD. I was just wondering why you were speaking with such authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 10:14 PM
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I'm not here to give my opinion. It's pretty clear you think you're the authority on morality here though. You answered my question without answering my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 09:49 PM
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I'm not here to give my opinion. It's pretty clear you think you're the authority on morality here though. You answered my question without answering my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 09:49 PM
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I'm not making a determination about whether the topic is immoral or moral. That being said, what makes you so sure you can engage with such smugness about whether it actually is immoral. There are obviously a lot of people who both agree and disagree on this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 09:35 PM
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Your response reinforces my statement that you're in a privileged position and can't see the forest for the trees. I'll rest my case here for the readers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:09 AM
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Using hyperbole shows your disingenuous engagement with the debate. Or perhaps you're just that out of touch that you think coffee for 2 people is $5. It's more likely the former is true. Coffee might work on the first date, but if it works out, people usually plan on having more than one date. The dating burden is almost always on the man. Finding people to even go on a date requires a certain amount of investment. Again, more than "$5" on a sustained basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 12:26 PM
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You're speaking from a privileged position of not having to pay to play. It has substantial impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:16 AM
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Why would you think a man's prime is 18-25, you need money to go out for dates etc. That is an age when people are still building their career, in college, etc. Women can get by broke, men can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:38 AM
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Wow, you actually silenced the OP, congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:27 AM
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Got em
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:17 PM
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FATALITY
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:15 PM
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People hook up with those around them. Ambition might help the women get in the same social circles but that doesn't mean they were chosen for their ambition.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 11:29 PM
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Got em
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 01:55 PM
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Using your logic, there are a lot more non-degenerate simps than you realize, mon ami.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 09:24 AM
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"it's usually a guy looking for casual sex"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 01:02 PM
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You're saying contradictory things. You can't both not be getting hit on and also turning down men who only want sex. I think the person you are responding to is pointing out that some people don't get hit on at all and don't have the option to even turn away others. If you're turning people away and aren't actively pursuing others, being alone is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 08:34 PM
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Real wisdom right here
/r/Divorce_Men10/04/22 10:58 PM
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Underrated comment
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:50 PM
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You got her on the straw man 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:11 PM
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This conversation was wholesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 03:33 AM
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ANIMALITY
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 02:06 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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