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The SPLC intelligence report about the growing misogynist hate movement on the internet. The report talks about the dangerous attitudes held by many MRAs and provides a detailed list of websites the hate movement known as the "MRM" gathers. Included in the list is AVFM and /r/mensrights. Until shortly after the Boston Marathon bombings, the terrorist manifesto of Thomas Ball was hosted in the "activism" section of avfm. It calls for the firebombing of police stations and courthouses as a respons…
/r/MensRights19/09/13 11:15 PM
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Did you check dudebro's overview? Pretty obviously a single purpose alt for a white nationalist. Defending Golden Dawn in one place and spewing racist shit here. Why you sticking your neck out for fucking Nazis bro? The only good Nazis are dead Nazis.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 10:58 PM
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Oh fun! What does LF mean? No one's ever tried to insult me with that acronym before. Doesn't trolling require dishonesty? If I'm stating an honestly held opinion does that still count as trolling? Don't you think that opening up the definition of trolling to mean "anything that questions my manbaby worldview" could be problematic?
/r/MensRights19/09/13 10:42 PM
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Or do you want to just sit around and be outraged at women? What else do you expect? That's literally the only thing mister ever does.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 09:05 PM
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Well it's also largely because the "movement" doesn't really have a reason to exist except to reinforce traditionalism and complain about or belittle women. The goals of feminism are sufficiently broad enough to address the gendered issues men face (and in fact I'd argue that feminists are the only group actually advocating for men), and the "feminism as bogeywoman responsible for things that predate feminism" charade is a tired vacuous joke. Men's Liberation, the movement that existed during th…
/r/MensRights19/09/13 07:04 PM
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Well if this sub was required to post actual men's rights issues instead of "omg what if the genders were reversed?!" horseshit the sub would be barren.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 05:33 PM
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Yeah I wonder why a website listed by the SPLC as a member of a growing misogynist hate movement on the internet, and who have a reputation for hosting terrorist manifestos in its "activism" section would be blocked? Such mysterious.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 03:52 PM
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until shortly after the boston bombings, the manifesto of tom ball was hosted in the "activism" section of avfm. it calls for the firebombing of policestations and courthouses as a response to perceived bias in family court proceedings register-her is a doxxing website owned and operated by elam. who ever said adrien chen was an SRSer?
/r/MensRights17/09/13 02:48 AM
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i don't visit sites known for hosting terrorist manifestos and who use ad revenue to fund doxxing campaigns/websites. sorry bro. i'll read a screenshot if you have it.
/r/MensRights17/09/13 02:06 AM
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it says that the second wave was kind of weird? i don't get your point. you get that feminism isn't a monolith right?
/r/MensRights17/09/13 01:44 AM
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Probably for the best. Wouldn't want to start a shitsingularity.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 10:13 PM
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So you're saying Elam never said he would acquit a guilty rapist? His "jury nullification" pledge was widely reported and is celebrated by misters. And how does saying (paraphrased slightly because I'm on mobile and not interested in chasing the exact quote) "it's unfortunate that parents aren't genitally caressing their young children" not constitute an endorsement of child sexual assault?
/r/MensRights16/09/13 10:02 PM
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Lol. You mean Paul "let's acquit guilty rapists" Elam and Warren "date rape is exciting and fathers rape your daughters" Farrell? Maybe they should be less compassionate to themselves and more compassionate to real human beings.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 09:44 PM
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Isn't this inherently exclusionary? Aren't you engaging in the same behavior you're always whinging about when turned against you?
/r/MensRights16/09/13 08:05 PM
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I didn't even know it was possible to stuff that amount of awful in one room at the same time. Bravo.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 07:51 PM
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lol ur boring.
/r/MensRights08/09/13 06:48 AM
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What's your point asshole?
/r/MensRights08/09/13 05:49 AM
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What, no comparison to slavery? You're getting soft.
/r/MensRights08/09/13 04:38 AM
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Do you need a tissue?
/r/MensRights08/09/13 04:20 AM
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So it's not rape if you didn't witness it? One in five women have been sexually assaulted. I'm sure the percentage is higher for someone serving in the military given the documented epidemic of sexual assault in the military and an environment that generally rewards hyper-masculinity and violence. But in a way I agree... why did you throw reason out the window?
/r/MensRights08/09/13 04:04 AM
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Shut up honkey.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 01:51 PM
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I honestly apologize for Canada on behalf of this fucking whackadoodle up here I'm responding to. I'm from Canada and most men I know aren't like this, but these misters bring down our whole country. I apologize for these misogynist, victim-blaming, anti-intellectual hooligans.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 01:40 PM
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So what's the deal with you and bringing up slavery all the time? It's more than a little weird.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 09:27 PM
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that's an obvious mischaracterization of what i said, but nice try tho. obviously women can participate in reinforcing patriarchy, especially when you consider the result of internalized misogyny. one need look no further than right here to see GWW, TB, and Erin "feminism killed my dog" Pizzey tripping over themselves to earn the title of special-est snowflake. what i said was that the factors leading to the stigma men who have been sexually assaulted face were created by men in the first place …
/r/MensRights05/09/13 04:46 PM
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implying that those concepts aren't from a time when women were still considered to be property instead of people.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 04:26 PM
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you have been kept in an isolated bubble and lack any powers of imagination and reasoning no, it's just that i'm wise enough to separate imagination from reason. Do you honestly believe the world is not how OP described, much less a single incident which took place among 16 year olds? do you honestly think that event took place? in a classroom setting? where was the teacher? you think a teacher, much less a school board, would allow an unmoderated discussion on sexual assault to take place? look…
/r/MensRights05/09/13 04:13 PM
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It is shameful what people believe, i agree. hundreds of MRAs read this obviously fictional story and believed it instantly because it confirmed all of their preexisting biases. shameful indeed.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 03:34 PM
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I don't want to indoctrinate my students, I simply want them to know that feminism isn't the only school of thought on gender equality. You would have to include illegitimate schools of thought for this statement to be true.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 04:57 AM
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Lol. Screw employment inequality, rape culture, systemic objectification, slut shaming, and victim blaming; sexism is having to pay a few dollars more to get into a bar. Menzrites!
/r/MensRights30/08/13 12:20 AM
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True.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 11:14 PM
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I'm not a fan of censorship but I'm totally a fan of censorship.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 07:36 PM
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like i said, there is sound science confirming that the identity of people who are trans is valid. are you willing to dismiss the entire field of neuroscience to retain your transphobia? biology confirms that even sex isn't a binary condition. do you think motherfucking biology isn't real? academically, there is decades of research into gender as a non-binary condition. psychologists and psychiatrists overwhelmingly disagree with your assertion that sex=gender. to retain your beliefs, you're req…
/r/MensRights29/08/13 05:44 PM
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So to have an unbigoted, scientifically sound, and academically accepted concept of gender, we have to consult academically ignorant unscientific bigots?
/r/MensRights29/08/13 04:43 PM
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I'm not obligated to include cissexist assholes.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 04:30 PM
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The consensus is you refer to people how they want you to. If you're that persons doctor you should probably be made aware because people who are trans sometimes have different medical needs.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 04:13 PM
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Did you read the link? I'm not the one saying it. Science is. Brain scans prove that the neuroanatomy of trans individuals matches their gender identity rather than the sex they were assigned at birth. Are you trying to tell me neuroscience isn't real? Where is your stemgod now?!!
/r/MensRights29/08/13 03:57 PM
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That's exactly what you're proposing. You're saying you wish a word existed that she had to call herself so she couldn't call herself a woman. Guess what... She's a woman. She's always been a woman. She was assigned the wrong gender at birth. Take your shitty transphobic boilerplate nonsense and jump off a bridge. You're suggesting that trans* people aren't real. They are
/r/MensRights29/08/13 03:44 PM
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But why do you care? If she says she's a woman she's a woman. Why do you want there to be a linguistic distinction to prevent her from living her life?
/r/MensRights29/08/13 01:46 PM
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Chelsea Manning is a woman.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 12:32 AM
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Why aren't there bus lanes for cars?!
/r/MensRights28/08/13 08:24 PM
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U wot m8?
/r/MensRights28/08/13 08:07 PM
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But if the victim is a student they would have to attend classes with their rapist. You're okay with that? Obviously on the exceedingly rare chance it turns out to be a "false accusation", the expulsion could be overturned.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 07:49 PM
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Wait, so your argument is that rapists shouldn't be expelled?
/r/MensRights27/08/13 07:28 PM
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/r/mensrights, where doxxing feminists is totally a men's rights issue.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 06:05 PM
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That's the worst misrepresentation of non judgemental harm reduction ever bro. Yes, sex workers should have access to specialized care and safe working conditions because they're routinely victimized by dangerous Johns. Johns should be targeted by police because they are routinely violent predators. In an environment where sex workers have to fear and hide from the police, the police can't protect them from gangsters and pimps and johns. Decriminalizing sex workers allows them greater access to …
/r/MensRights26/08/13 06:31 PM
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so putting an equal sign in your logo absolves you from bigotry? lol.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 05:38 PM
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read their FAQ. i agree that /u/Demmian is a complete shitpile, but trust me he bans real feminists at a greater rate than he bans MRAs. i was banned ages ago for documenting why the MRM isn't a legitimate parallel movement because it only cares about hurting women rather than helping men, and that one can't be a MRA and a feminist or an MRA and a good person. that FAQ has a lengthy section that serves as essentially a tone argument, criticizing SRS. it has an entire section on the MRM, addressi…
/r/MensRights20/08/13 03:25 PM
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Don't you mean 1 in 5 for female rape victims?
/r/MensRights20/08/13 03:29 AM
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/r/Feminism is controlled by an MRA. it's not part of /r/ShitRedditSays' Fempire.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 09:36 PM
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wow you just totally nailed it crosshook. that's like the most accurate description of me ever. i love it when you call me cupcake.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 07:16 PM
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oh sorry. i forgot banned for misogyny > banned for trolling. as requested: how feminists don't hate men
/r/MensRights19/08/13 06:54 PM
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says the dude posting from an alt because his main was banned for trolling. drès trôle
/r/MensRights19/08/13 06:39 PM
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yup.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 04:06 PM
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k
/r/MensRights19/08/13 03:48 PM
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When has he ever promoted rape or child sexual assault? I guess you're talking about his incest research, in which he never endorsed anything which he was studying. from an interview he gave in a smut magazine during the late 70s: First, because millions of people who are now refraining from touching, holding, and genitally caressing their children, when that is really a part of a caring, loving expression, are repressing the sexuality of a lot of children and themselves. from "the myth of male …
/r/MensRights18/08/13 08:34 PM
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Have you seen the people who are featured on register-her? you mean the doxxing of feminist bloggers and canadian feminists protesting the appearance of a man notorious for endorsing acquaintance rape and child sexual assault? Haven't you seen that about half of the writers for AVFM are women? Let me guess, those women are traitors to the sisterhood? i'm a man, so it's not really my place or right to call someone like GWW or TB a gender traitor. are they as horrible as people like Elam? yes. are…
/r/MensRights18/08/13 05:36 PM
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They're all objectively awful. They take typical MRA misogyny and crank it up to ∞
/r/MensRights18/08/13 03:01 PM
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Paul Elam's call to acquit guilty rapists surely qualifies as "inciting violence or other highly discriminatory behavior against a group" bro. Should I be called to sit on a jury for a rape trial, I vow publicly to vote not guilty, even in the face of overwhelming evidence that the charges are true.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 03:03 AM
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By misogyny, you mean talking about men's issues instead of women's issues? no... i mean acceptance and advocacy of misogynist language and behaviour. for example: the widespread use of misogynist slurs, tolerance of misogynist hate sites like register-her and AVfM, victim blaming, and ubiquitous calls to normalize violence against women. I have a hard time imagining someone like you being ok with.... someone like who? ... any forum that focuses on helping men specifically. how does this forum h…
/r/MensRights18/08/13 02:50 AM
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But my shitty e-cult uses very potent moderation. Do you even reading comprehension Gary?
/r/MensRights18/08/13 12:07 AM
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implying impotent moderation is a virtue.
/r/MensRights17/08/13 11:36 PM
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this
/r/MensRights17/08/13 06:07 PM
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That's because "misandry" ≠ a thing that exists.
/r/MensRights17/08/13 04:26 PM
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gotten too soft? that's a joke right? the misogyny is off the fucking charts around here and has only gotten worse. not to say that the rest of the misandrosphere isn't as bad or worse... i don't know how anyone here can even feign respectability while doxxing and hate sites like AVFM are linked to and celebrated.
/r/MensRights17/08/13 03:27 PM
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you can't be classist against the wealthy or racist against the white bro
/r/MensRights17/08/13 02:52 AM
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a: why the scare quotes? do you think one can't be a feminist and a journalist simultaneously? b: like i said, the movement is widely accepting of male participation. what happened to you in college to make you feel otherwise? spare me the strawfeminism that's always being thrown around by MRAs though.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 09:05 PM
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Why do you think that? I'm a white cis man and lifelong feminist, I've never been excluded from participating in the feminist movement (though there are some safe spaces that I'm not welcome in which is perfectly understandable).
/r/MensRights16/08/13 07:28 PM
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the significance is that a culture that tolerates toxic masculinity and generally rewards violence is pretty well guaranteed to have a large population of violent and dangerous men.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 05:00 AM
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TIL pointing out that a woman is much much more likely to be hospitalized or killed by an abusive male partner than the reverse isn't a significant conclusion.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 02:08 AM
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Male on female intimate partner homicide occurs at an alarmingly higher rate than the reverse...
/r/MensRights02/08/13 01:12 AM
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Give me a break. The MRM isn't a civil rights movement and it's offensive to suggest your internet circlejerking-clubhouse has anything in common with the civil rights movement.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 01:02 AM
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The problem advocates for financial abortions (henceforth referred to as deadbeating) run up against is that their arguments are predicated on a misinterpretation of why the right to terminate a pregnancy exists in the first place. the argument deadbeaters present is: if a woman has the legal right to choose whether or not to become a parent, men should have an equal legal right to abandon their children this is false. in jurisdictions where abortions are legal it is not because women have the r…
/r/MensRights29/07/13 06:30 PM
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k.
/r/MensRights28/07/13 05:57 AM
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Bahahaha as if you actually need help looking bad.
/r/MensRights28/07/13 05:32 AM
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No, it dehumanizes people by comparing them to female dogs. Since your initial thesis is flawed, everything that descends from that thesis is now suspect. lol. "bitch" as a description of humans was designed as a way to compare women who weren't behaving (read: not being quiet and submissive) to dogs in heat. it was a way to invalidate the concerns of women by saying that they are beholden to less than human instincts and that any agency they express beyond the wishes of their male owners are il…
/r/MensRights26/07/13 06:24 PM
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i know that basic common sense and logic don't really work the same in MRAland what with up being down, rape being totally not a big deal, and misandry being a real life thing that really does exist and isn't the single most cockamamie concept ever, but there's a thing called a "series" which you might recognize from television. what "series" means is that the two videos that have already been released aren't the complete product but pieces of a much larger ongoing production. Anita promised bac…
/r/MensRights26/07/13 06:43 AM
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/u/Gotz_ofthe_Iron_Hand made the laughably false claim that /r/MensRights, the home of misogyny on reddit, doesn't permit misogyny. i merely pointed to an obvious counterpoint that didn't even require leaving the current page. this isn't about whether /u/Gotz_ofthe_Iron_Hand is a misogynist or not (he probz is tho), it's demonstrating that the claim "/r/MensRights doesn't permit misogyny" is completely ludicrous.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 06:21 AM
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Geek culture is "unsafe" for women? Not unwelcoming or even demeaning but unsafe? I'm not sure I'm willing to board that train without some convincing how about the constant threats and harassment women receive if they happen to reveal they are women? what about the credible death and rape threats people like Rebecca Watson and Anita Sarkeesian receive? what about the events of Cross Assault and the resounding defiance of men to make gaming safe for women? Geek culture is certainly not more unsa…
/r/MensRights26/07/13 06:11 AM
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protip: me being a woman or not (i'm not) has nothing to do with the term "bitching" as a replacement for bellyaching being misogynist. so yeah. keep quacking little ducky.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 05:55 AM
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i'm not going to type up a whole new reply for basically the same notgettingit.exe all over again. i'll just quote my other reply and bold the most relevant part. it's a gendered slur that dehumanizes women by comparing them to dogs. its use as a replacement for criticism or complaining is a reference to the misogynist stereotype that women complain unnecessarily. you telling one of your bros to stop "bitching" is the same as you saying "stop being feminine", implying that you think there is som…
/r/MensRights26/07/13 05:45 AM
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it's a gendered slur that dehumanizes women by comparing them to dogs. its use as a replacement for criticism or complaining is a reference to the misogynist stereotype that women complain unnecessarily. you telling one of your bros to stop "bitching" is the same as you saying "stop being feminine", implying that you think there is something about being a woman that makes one less than being a man. is context not a concept you're familiar with?
/r/MensRights26/07/13 05:34 AM
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lolwut... as of right now, 88% of your readers voting on this thread have thus far upvoted a post with a misogynist slur in the title
/r/MensRights26/07/13 05:11 AM
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Hasn't everyone realized that Sarkeesian is just a giant fraud yet? fraud how? she raised money to produce a series of videos and has delivered. it puts the abuse Sarkeesian recieved in a little more perspective is the "perspective" that a subculture notoriously unsafe for women is full of shitty people? misogynist men on the internet will send death and rape threats to anyone and for anything FTFY
/r/MensRights26/07/13 05:01 AM
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whatiscontext.txt Women's only hours/gyms are only required because there's an epidemic of creepy men making gyms unsafe for women. There's no need for men's only hours at gyms because generally women don't make places unsafe for men.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 11:47 PM
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gender roles are coercive though. the child will be raised by people telling them that they're a man and they will be expected to perform as male. by imposing gender and gendered expectations on a person you take away their ability to form their own identity. we don't know what gender the royal baby is, but we can be damn sure that forcing male gender performance on them is going to warp their identity.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 07:22 PM
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That's nice. It also has nothing to do with what I said, which was "Do you think a renowned and influential feminist would condone child molestation?" people who i don't personally believe are feminists call themselves and are refered to as feminists all the time. rona ambrose, canada's minister for the status of women, is anti-choice for fuck's sake, yet people call her a feminist all the time. half the shitty fucknuggets in this sub call themselves feminists while also participating in an anti…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 06:29 AM
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Do you honestly and truly think someone who was, at the time, so heavily involved in the feminist community, both activist and academic, would actually condone parents touching their children's genitals--more specifically, fathers molesting their daughters? a lot of people believe a lot of fucked up shit. most rapists don't even think what they're doing is rape (my rapist doesn't believe that what they did to me was rape). most parents that molest their children think their "doing them a favour"…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 04:52 AM
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was the Liz Library responsible for publishing penthouse magazine in 1979? that entire paragraph is in the magazine article and the digital scans archived by the liz library prove it.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 04:28 AM
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First, because millions of people who are now refraining from touching, holding, and genitally caressing their children, when that is really a part of a caring, loving expression, are repressing the sexuality of a lot of children and themselves this is what he said when asked whether he thought it was a good idea to right a book endorsing incest considering the harm that rape and incest cause. real objective
/r/MensRights21/07/13 03:38 AM
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Yeah and he also wrote an unreleased book about why fathers should be raping their prepubescent kids, so it's provably best to take anything he says with a truckload of salt.
/r/MensRights20/07/13 09:53 PM
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Why aren't there any morgues for alive people?!
/r/MensRights16/07/13 10:35 PM
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yes.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 09:30 PM
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how about 2% of the time, considering that the general consensus is that false accusations are that rare... for every 49 conversations about rape, you may have one discussion about the imaginary epidemic of false accusations. seems fair to me.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 06:31 PM
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This is the entire text of ygr interview published in the december 1977 issue of penthouse This is an article that discusses the broader context of the article and the hilarious attempts at revisionism he and his acolytes have attempted since backlash started regarding his past advocacy. That second link also contains a link to the high resolution scans obtained by the Liz Library if you'd like to see the article as it was published.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 06:23 PM
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I'm a male rape victim and the Ottawa rape crisis centre provided the most outstanding support when I decided to start dealing with what happened to me. The idea that feminist organizations refuse care to men is an insidious lie.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 05:42 PM
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men's rights advocate. The men's rights movement is a radical right-wing anti-feminist reactionary movement notorious for sheltering misogynists and protecting predators.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 05:12 PM
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It's deeply depressing to learn that there are MRAs in Ottawa. GTFO of my town. Edit: I should probably clarify a bit because you're all doing your best to miss the point. I don't have any particular grievance with the student who started this organization, though I'm skeptical of whether it's required given the availability of more qualified and better funded programs. I do have a grievance with antifeminists and MRAs operating within the sphere of my community activism as they tend to actively…
/r/MensRights09/07/13 04:13 PM
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First, because millions of people who are now refraining from touching, holding, and genitally caressing their children, when that is really a part of a caring, loving expression, are repressing the sexuality of a lot of children and themselves. This is what he told smut magazine penthouse about his reasoning for writing a never published book on the subject of incest. Tell me exactly what in that block of text doesn't constitute an endorsement of parents sexually assaulting their children. And …
/r/MensRights09/07/13 04:03 PM
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I won't say anything about solanas, as I'm neither 2w or a separatist and I'm critical of those groups anyways so I don't know why you'd expect me to defend them. If you can't see the difference between your employer saying that physically assaulting a woman gives him an erection or promoting a spousal assault month and an obviously satirical hash tag, there's even less hope for you than I originally thought. Unplanned pregnancies plummet in populations that are given free access to contraceptiv…
/r/MensRights06/07/13 11:41 PM
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Maybe people just find the ridiculous rhetoric of accusing me of being a man hating feminazgul social justice warlock to be off putting because it fails to address the very real concern that MRAs often bring their power fantasies with them, making any real activism they were to do scary. Maybe even some anti-feminists noticed the ridiculous "fuck consequences unless they happen to me" hypocrisy in complaining about the epidemic of unplanned children in one breath and whinging about healthcare pr…
/r/MensRights06/07/13 05:54 PM
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Oh it's you. Don't you have some domestic abusers to defend? Or violent misogynists who refer to women as "fuckmuffins" to shill for? That is, if you're done sticking up for the intellectual honour of the red-pillheads and their totes serious analysis of hamster-carousels or whatever. So many women to hate and so little time amirite?
/r/MensRights06/07/13 05:01 PM
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An article documenting a few of the more egregious examples of Paul Elam's violent and violence-inciting rhetoric He has been quoted as saying he gets sexual gratification from fantasizing about physically assaulting women/feminists. An article documenting register-her, the doxxing website Elam uses to coordinate harassment and threats against arbitrary enemies he selects
/r/MensRights06/07/13 12:37 PM
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that's some handsome infantilizing rhetoric you've got there
/r/MensRights05/07/13 09:58 PM
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the MRM is not an intellectual or academic movement, so by definition it needs a centralized brain-trust (term used loosely). it's pretty clear that Paul Elam, paedophilia-apologist Warren Farrell, domestic abuse advocate GirlWritesWhat, and Erin "feminism shot my dog" Pizzey form a substantial bulk of that brain-trust. that's certainly not the entirety of the MRM's leadershit, but it's a fair chunk.
/r/MensRights05/07/13 09:48 PM
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what's your take on the anti-feminist doxxing website register-her? or the tendency of paul elam to encourage violence against women and his repeated campaigns to harass and professionally punish (often innocent) enemies he selects arbitrarily? is it okay when the MRM does it? you seem to be giving mr elam and many of his acolytes a pass.
/r/MensRights05/07/13 09:06 PM
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lol. you're working to pay for the birth control of canadian men? intriguing. do keep digging!
/r/MensRights05/07/13 08:47 PM
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you nailed it brave redditor
/r/MensRights05/07/13 07:46 PM
0

well it certainly doesn't help that the MRM's leader thinks terrorist manifestos calling for the firebombing of courthouses and police stations passes for acvism we should probably all take comfort in knowing MRAs are keyboard commandos and that the MRM only exists on the internet.
/r/MensRights05/07/13 07:22 PM
1

implying a something non-autonomous has a right to autonomy lol.
/r/MensRights29/06/13 01:07 PM
-5

You're shilling for Paul Elam? Really? A man who until very recently had a terrorist manifesto calling for the bombing of courthouses and police stations hosted in the "activism" section of his website? A man who operates and profits from a doxxing website used to coordinate personal attacks against women and feminists arbitrarily defined as bigots because they stand up to misogynists? A man who has made a public oath to acquit any rapist regardless of circumstance should he find himself a juror…
/r/MensRights28/06/13 04:28 AM
0

this is a joke right? you spend so much time defending misogyny and explaining away the behaviour of chauvinists that i'm confident you wouldn't say shit.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 02:59 AM
0

Yes.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 05:56 PM
1

they've never minimized the crimes that have happened to me...
/r/MensRights25/06/13 04:16 AM
0

you're also playing the distortion game bucko... the response to gabe's transphobia did not stem from his initial faux pas, that's forgiveable. what happened was that someone corrected him, reminding him that trans* people exist and that his language was erasing them and he lost his shit and spewed a ton of gender essentialist anti-trans* hate speech. now, i find it personally reprehensible for an adult to not know that trans* people exist and act that careless, but i understand that most people…
/r/MensRights25/06/13 03:01 AM
-7

so you're saying that being a trans*phobic piece of human garbage is a prerequisite to being a man and/or nerd?
/r/MensRights24/06/13 07:08 PM
1

because intentional false rape accusations are so incredibly rare Exactly! You're starting to get it. So rare in fact that they qualify for the title shitthatneverhappened.txt
/r/MensRights24/06/13 03:20 PM
1

So says him. No editor or original transcript has appeared to defend his revisionism. Also, given the context of the interview, an article about the book he was writing favourable to incest (since abandoned) in a smut magazine, does the word "generally" really change the meaning of the statement much? I'd say no.
/r/MensRights24/06/13 01:36 AM
-2

I'm not going to have the warren Farrell fight with you again celda, because you've yet to articulate how saying that men should genitally caress their children is magically not an endorsement of child sexual assault.
/r/MensRights24/06/13 12:37 AM
-4

non-profit does not mean unbiased i don't even understand what point you're trying to make here... of course the SPLC is biased. it's biased against hate movements. why else would its mission be to eradicate hate movements? ad hominems and character assassination are not arguments i'm stating facts about the movement's leadership, because every time i bring up the dangerous misogyny permitted within the MRM, someone tries to make the case that it's just a few "asshats" and not a stinking disgust…
/r/MensRights23/06/13 10:24 PM
-10

Well let's examine the evidence: The SPLC (the nonprofit body responsible for monitoring, classifying, and litigating against hate movements) has declared the MRM a hate movement. figureheads within the MRM are often unabashed misogynists (john the other, Paul Elam), rape apologists (john the other, Paul Elam, Warren Farrell), advocates for child sexual assault (Warren Farrell), and are time to time loosely affiliated with racist/homophobic hate communities when their interests overlap. anti-fem…
/r/MensRights23/06/13 08:57 PM
-8

uhm yeah actually. she criticizes toxic masculinity in videogames, you lot freak the fuck out and become blubbering manbabies.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 08:59 PM
3

don't bring your facts in here friend! this be a witch hunt!
/r/MensRights04/06/13 07:06 PM
-7

If we lived in a culture that "promotes and condones rape" why the fuck would we need a veneer? sorry, i was doing you lot a favour by glossing over the usual lack of veneer. good catch. i wont make the mistake of presenting the MRM as possessing basic human decency ever again. Most MRAs that I have seen advocate for keeping "beyond a reasonable doubt" as the standard. from MRM brass Paul Elam: Should I be called to sit on a jury for a rape trial, I vow publicly to vote not guilty, even in the f…
/r/MensRights04/06/13 06:45 PM
-23

FemFreq doesn't allow comments on their videos because you people can't handle any shred of criticism and gather giant mobs of villagers and pitchforks to deface any space that appears critical of male hegemony.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 06:19 PM
-13

any proof to back up this claim? or is this just another witch hunt MRAs will gladly get behind with no evidence in one breath while shrieking like a bunch of deranged narwhals about due process and 'innocence until proven guilty' in the next?
/r/MensRights04/06/13 06:09 PM
-11

just because some people publicly condemn something doesn't mean we don't live in a culture that privately promotes and condones rape. i mean, just look at the subreddit you're posting in, MRAs eat rape-culture-ohs for breakfast: -rampant victim blaming under a thin veneer of 'safety tips' -widespread misreporting over the prevalence of false rape accusations -advocating for not-guilty verdicts and hung juries in all rape cases regardless of the suspect's guilt or innocence -bullshit semantic ar…
/r/MensRights04/06/13 05:57 PM
-10

any case .... rape culture is bullshit. [citation needed]
/r/MensRights04/06/13 04:38 PM
-4

I leave it to the sensible people of MR to decide. crickets
/r/MensRights26/05/13 06:06 PM
-7

I'm not going to dredge my internet history looking for the exact article but I'm pretty sure I got most of those stats from amnesty int.
/r/MensRights25/05/13 04:57 AM
-6

But I really really want to hear more fireside tales of what you think "postmodern" means!
/r/MensRights25/05/13 04:41 AM
-9

Yeah says you. Meanwhile in reality-land there facts live: -there have been barely a dozen female heads of state anywhere since the start of the 20<sup>th</sup> century. -legislators and the judiciary is somewhere in the neighbourhood of 80%+ male. -women make up 70% of those living in poverty and own 1% of the worlds property.
/r/MensRights25/05/13 04:26 AM
-11

You can't honestly believe that in our patriarchal world misandry exists in any real sense or on the level that misogyny does. At this rate, it's only a matter of time before you'll be trying to pass off reverse racism and heterophobia as real things too.
/r/MensRights25/05/13 03:57 AM
-15

Thanks scout.
/r/MensRights25/05/13 03:22 AM
-16

ITT: people who think misandry is a thing.
/r/MensRights25/05/13 03:10 AM
-10

sweet tag bro. though i prefer people tag me in purple.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 06:52 PM
-1

Yeah you exist for the rampant misogyny and rape apology.
/r/MensRights18/05/13 04:48 PM
4

So you want to repeal both the right to a public trial and freedom of the press, just to protect rapists? Thatshitdontmakenofuckingsense.bmp
/r/MensRights18/05/13 04:38 PM
0

You're trying to turn me into a strawfem yes, but I've pretty well demystified all that. Anyways, as I said I'm bored of you and your misplaced manger isn't interesting enough to make me want to keep at this. Later buddy.
/r/MensRights17/05/13 01:04 AM
0

why would i as a man fight against men's rights? that doesn't even make sense. i'm against the MRM because it's a reactionary antifeminist counter movement that fails to address any real men's issues because it's too busy complaining about women having agency. sidebars motherfucker, do you read them?! We are not against the concept of men's rights, we are against the "men's rights movement"
/r/MensRights17/05/13 12:04 AM
1

from TVtropes (bold mine): A character whose "feminism" is drawn only for the purposes of either proving them wrong or ridiculing them. you keep saying that word...
/r/MensRights16/05/13 11:39 PM
0

try? i know you're trying to somehow discredit me by infantilizing me, but you should just stop. it's pretty humourless and really isn't working. you should probably know that strawfeminists is something you people do, as in you build fake feminists to fit inside your warped definitions only to knock them down. sorry bub, no straw here. i'm just a feminist. you're a member of the largest hate group on Reddit, the Fempire. won't somebody please stand up for those poor oppressed racist sexist homo…
/r/MensRights16/05/13 10:57 PM
1

how serendipitous! me too! i don't think silly arguments really carry an obligation to respond. it might just be a side effect of the blue pill idk.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 10:19 PM
1

Do you reach out to us? Do you try to build bridges? Haven't seen any attempts. the whole goddamned feminist movement is a bridge to men. deconstructing oppressive gender roles benefits people of every gender. all of the things you people constantly whinge about are the result of male hegemony. also, feminism is an actually coherent movement containing real activists. the MRM is a loose scattering of blogs and forums where people gather 'round to share imaginary microaggressions and rattle off s…
/r/MensRights16/05/13 10:00 PM
0

You're boring. I don't hate all men, just misogynists and predators. Though it makes sense someone who interacts with MRAs almost exclusively would interpret that as all men.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 08:55 PM
1

The point is it's not anyone's goddamned business but the victim. If I feel like I was assaulted I was assaulted. It's that simple.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 06:39 PM
0

well in that case i guess we're all lucky you're not the judge of what is and isn't rape.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 06:13 PM
2

rape is violence on its own, but aggravated stranger rape is the least common. the most common type of rape is partner or acquaintance rape, usually perpetrated by coercion or by introducing intoxicants.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 06:01 PM
-1

Lego = Feminism FTFY.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 01:26 PM
5

don't put words in my mouth shitdick. feminism recognizes female on male rape. of course it does. point me to a feminist author that specifically says that a woman can not commit rape. again, the CCOC makes no distinction between 'rape' and 'sexual assault', only 'sexual assault' and 'aggravated sexual assault'(for when the victim's life is endangered by an increased level of violence or exposure to STI). there is not a single feminist who has ever said i wasn't raped. you're coming across as a …
/r/MensRights12/05/13 10:40 PM
5

an illusion created by defintions[sic]. i'm not conceding to your completely ridiculous paranoia here, but hypothetically, if these terms were somehow redefined for your benefit, you think the majority of rapists wouldn't still be men and the majority of victims wouldn't still be female?
/r/MensRights12/05/13 10:25 PM
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sexual assault and rape are the exact same thing you fucking troglodyte. rape is a term in common vernacular, sexual assault is the term used in the criminal code.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 10:12 PM
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you're being pedantic. according to the criminal code of canada, there's no difference between the two. why do you give a single fuck about splitting these trivial fucking hairs?
/r/MensRights12/05/13 10:02 PM
1

No, consent can indeed be withdrawn after an encounter. This is particularly important when consent has been coerced. Consent must be verbal and non verbal. And verbal consent must be reiterated during the encounter, for example asking 'is this okay?' 'What would you like?' Etc. 'Coercion' is an intentionally broad term so as to include a variety of things like consent given under false pretences and the use of manipulation and trickery to gain consent that would not be granted otherwise. As an …
/r/MensRights12/05/13 08:43 PM
2

mister is a euphemism for /r/MensRights. PS, as an aside, i'm a man.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 08:07 PM
1

enthusiastic consent: consent must be sober, sustained, ongoing, and not coerced. consent can be withdrawn for any reason at any time, before, during, or after any encounter.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 07:57 PM
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this thread is #20 on mister's top threads of all time, sitting at nearly 3200 upvotes, advocating a completely fucked up and dangerous notion of what is and is not consent
/r/MensRights12/05/13 07:40 PM
0

take a look at these responses. this is one branch from one thread and the prevailing attitude is that enthusiastic consent is not important. these people are fucking dangerous and should not be allowed to spread these dangerous as fuck ideas about what does and does not constitute consent. this is the prevailing attitude on mister at all times. to borrow from your deeply un-inventive parroted lexicon: i made no false allegations about these potential sex criminals.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:09 PM
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You need to get your reading comprehension rechecked buddy. They specifically say that an attacker can be from any gender. And again, as a survivor, they didn't attempt to minimize or dismiss my attack. What the fuck is wrong with you?
/r/MensRights12/05/13 05:59 PM
1

i've done no such thing boy-oh. what the actual fuck are you talking about?
/r/MensRights12/05/13 05:31 PM
5

Who Sexually Assaults? - Fact Sheet Sexual assault can be perpetrated by ANYBODY. Sexual assault perpetrators work in all fields, they may or may not be married, they are from all classes, can be any race or age and be of any sexual orientation or gender. Copied verbatim from the fact sheet for the crisis centre that assisted me after my attack Checkmate asshole.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 05:21 PM
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I'm calling bullshit you fucking piece of human garbage. I'm a man who was raped by a woman and no feminist has ever told me I wasn't raped, but you just fucking did you piece of shit. Go jump off a fucking bridge you fucking asshole.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 03:00 PM
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attitudes on consent like the ones promoted on mister are exactly the reason why i was raped. so yes, literally terrifying.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 09:35 PM
5

because starvation ≠ health.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 08:30 PM
3

have you ever talked consent on mister? it's literally terrifying. nothing false about it.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 07:59 PM
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No, the biggest problem you face is that you're a bunch of scary misogynists and dangerous predators.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 07:27 PM
-4

You realize that a public trial is guaranteed by the constitution right? And that the press also has the same right to publish anything on the public record? Or are you as ill-informed of constitutional law as you are of gender issues?
/r/MensRights09/04/13 10:44 PM
-26

As a feminist, you're full of shit.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 07:31 PM
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-every feminist ever [Citation needed]
/r/MensRights08/04/13 06:22 PM
5

Well at least you found the right subreddit this time
/r/MensRights07/04/13 10:48 PM
-2

it says that feminists are actually activists and that MRAs are living in a shitty little bubble. also, direct action and non-violent civil disobedience ≠ violence
/r/MensRights07/04/13 06:03 PM
-1

No we're a counter movement to the men's rights movement. As in, against the MRM or as more common being from reddit, against /r/mensrights and related subs. We work to expose the rhetoric dressed up as research and the violent misogyny that's being promoted in these here parts.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 03:38 PM
-2

OMG i see me!
/r/MensRights07/04/13 12:26 AM
3

mysogyny that's because you can't spell.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 12:13 AM
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drinking at all means you can't consent though. so what you are implying is that at no point can a woman have a drink outside of her home or else it's her fault she was attacked.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 04:07 AM
1

So what you say is that if people don't want to be attacked they are not allowed to drink or have fun, and if they do it's their fault. You're setting a standard for behaviour that's completely ridiculous. People need to be allowed to engage in social situations without being terrorized and victimized, which includes social drinking.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 12:36 AM
2

the reality that your hypothetical ignores is that she's much much much more likely to be raped by brad (or someone else she knows) rather than a stranger. the problem at the core of the "we're just talking safety tips" issue is that stranger assault is one of the least likely ways to be attacked, and the hardest to prevent. you can't tell someone that they can't leave the house, and if they do they need to wear a burkha. this is why we need to talk to young people about rape culture and teach t…
/r/MensRights05/04/13 10:51 PM
-2

Who knew? Work clothes at work? Just imagine the misandry-cleaning bill! first they came for the nice sweaters, but I didn't speak up because I wasn't a nice sweater...
/r/MensRights05/04/13 10:26 PM
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Yes it's called business attire. Collars are a requisite for nearly every work place. This is what you people consider oppression? That you have to wear work clothes to work? I think it's time to raise the bar around here if you ever want to be thought of as anything more than the pathetic joke of a "movement" you are.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 10:16 PM
1

Physical violence is never justified. The fact that you people are arguing over whether you're allowed to commit violent acts against women is a testament to the collective psychopathy if the MRM.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 06:56 PM
0

what are you even talking about? this is on your front page right now advocating for the right to abuse women also way to use words coined by rush limbaugh. isn't reddit so welcoming and family friendly and progressive lolololool?
/r/MensRights28/03/13 02:45 PM
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lolwut. /r/feminism is modded by an MRA. i wear my ban from there like a badge of honour.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 02:34 PM
0

Isn't it against the rules to post screenshots without obfuscated names? Given this boards general endorsement of violence against women this could be dangerous if it wasn't so petty and boring.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 02:03 PM
-2

Classic /r/mensrights, endorsing violence against women again.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 01:53 PM
-2

But prejudice without oppression is like a gun with no bullets. You can spend as much time as you'd like pointing to it, but that doesn't change the fact that it poses zero tangible threat to anyone. That's what's behind the concept that white men can't be the victims or racism and sexism. Being hated by a woman of colour (or anyone else for that matter) is a reaction to your privilege, not an expression of theirs
/r/MensRights25/03/13 08:11 PM
-5

This site, along with a few others such as the site run by the notorious rape apologist Paul Elam, has been recognised by the SPLC as part of a reactionary hate movement against women and other gender minorities. Equal opportunity requires equal footing. You can't spend literally thousands of years building a society that benefits SAWCSMs and then say that no effort needs to be spent reversing that legacy. Don't you realize that you've been immensely lucky to have been working these past 17 year…
/r/MensRights25/03/13 07:58 PM
-3

Have you read that article? It's actually a very accessible introduction to white male privilege and quite clearly outlines why someone succeeding on a higher difficulty setting doesn't qualify as evidence contrary to the fact that society has been organized to grant benefits and efficiencies to straight able-bodied cisgendered sexual men. Though I probably shouldn't expect that kind of introspection and contextual awareness from someone complaining about workplace diversity on a recognised hate…
/r/MensRights25/03/13 03:09 PM
-3

a marked improvement, but you're still working off a fundamentally flawed premise. it's not childish to expect people to comport themselves with respect while in public and be aware of their surroundings. those men were careless at best and more likely (given the prevailing male attitude in most settings) being intentionally provocative. also, i'd be curious to know what the reasoning is for believing that profane name calling and revelry in petty vengeance is somehow more mature than wishing pe…
/r/MensRights21/03/13 06:21 PM
-13

don't worry i'm sufficiently guarded in this pit of vipers, but thanks for the concern trolling anyway. and bravo on the attempt to infantilize me, though the landing didn't stick. please tell me, what part of: The stupid bitch brought it on herself. is logic and which is reason? because surely in such a place this would only be one of the top comments in this thread for containing one or both of those.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 05:43 PM
-21

whoosh I was more making a joke at the expense of your unbelievably overdeveloped persecution complex and penchant for conspiracy theories.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 05:22 PM
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And I don't remember a time where I've personally won against a feminist. that must be entirely because of institutionalized misandry and not because the MRM is an anti-intellectual hate brigade right? right? even the spell check people are against you
/r/MensRights21/03/13 04:42 PM
0

You can't wander in to a pit of misogynist snakes, say that an articulate feminist said "only men can get raped" and then fail to back up your claim. As I said before, shitthatdidn'thappen.txt You're not comfortable telling what town and what university you go to?
/r/MensRights20/03/13 02:24 PM
-1

Well he committed statutory rape, so yeah. The girl was too young to consent and he slept with her anyways. Just because she married her rapist doesn't mean he never raped her.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 04:26 AM
-6

Yeah those poor oppressed convicted rapists! No one should ever have to go through the trouble they got themselves in when they decided it was a good idea to rape someone.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 04:05 AM
-3

Institutional weapons like income inequality, restricted access to positions of power, rape culture, and higher standards of both intellectual and aesthetic performance. As a man you have the ability to exploit those biases in your favour to gain the upper hand in almost any environment against other genders. Sorry no lasers. Maybe you can put a request in the minutes of the next violence against women, gender & sexual minority planning meeting. Also, bigotry is a facet to the wider problem of o…
/r/MensRights20/03/13 02:19 AM
-5

Bigotry is an expression of power one group holds over another. Because PoC are disempowered, they can't oppress whites because they lack access to the institutional weapons of their current oppressors. It's exactly the same as how within the patriarchy, there is no such thing as sexism against men because the power imbalance in men's favour is self-preservative and doesn't allow for men to be structurally oppressed by other genders.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 12:44 AM
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I just wanted to make up a story that appeals to misogynists for internet points! FTFY
/r/MensRights20/03/13 12:02 AM
0

Do you have any proof to back up this story? As in the name of the university, a link to the event hosted on the university website, and the audio or video of the event? Because I'm going to stick my neck out there and say: shitthatdidn'thappen.txt edit: accidentally a word.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 11:50 PM
-3

Yeah, the real victims in the rape capital of the world are creepy men! Another gem of a top post guys!
/r/MensRights19/03/13 04:17 PM
-4

the thread is literally titled "Are you a man? Like tinkering with motors? Congratulation! You're a misogynist!". we are in the same thread right? don't you find that kind of editorializing, and the pointed misogyny of the OP and a great number of the upvoted comments to be detrimental to whatever it is you're trying to achieve? edit: autocorrect dun goofed.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 05:06 AM
-4

Okay I'll spell it out for you. This woman never called her fiance a misogynist, nor did she call all people that like collecting and tinkering with cars misogynists. She (rightly) pointed out that car culture is ripe with sexism and toxic masculinity and that one must be careful not to buy into it. She (rightly) drew attention to the toxic values held by members of her fiance's family and pleaded with him not to choose that path. He chose to ignore the toxic environment his father created for w…
/r/MensRights19/03/13 03:29 AM
-5

congratulations /mr! you've successfully heavily upvoted the story of some poor woman's suffering with a shockingly editorialized and untrue title again! it's completely telling that the intellectual (if you can call any of the content here intellectual) home of your "movement" is constantly overflowing with this kind of crap.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 02:38 AM
1

So you took something from someone without asking and are now mad at both the person you took from and the person who attempted to correct the situation. Also how is this at all relevant to this board other than the obvious link between the MRM and your privileged attitude? Maybe you should develop some social skills and learn to ask politely for things instead of jumping to conclusions and taking without asking.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 09:08 PM
1

Both of those articles contain direct quotes from him. Words he spoke and wrote don't qualify as his work? The second link is a digital scan of an interview he gave (in penthouse, which may be the least favorable publication to feminism ever) about a book he was writing endorsing incest.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 04:35 AM
1

1 2
/r/MensRights14/03/13 04:18 AM
1

He has specifically encouraged fathers to rape their children and gone on the record saying that incest can be a favorable/healthy experience. That is an incredibly dangerous opinion to be allowed to share with current/future parents.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 03:37 AM
1

Blocking entrances and shaming misogynists isn't violence. Punching misogynists is violence and that didn't happen. And like I said, it's a moral obligation of anyone with a conscience to prevent someone from being exposed to someone who encourages fathers to rape their daughters and men to commit date rape.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 09:11 PM
1

Nobody threatened anyone with physical violence. The rally was designed as a peaceful way to discourage access to the talk so that people wouldn't be encouraged to commit date rape or rape their children.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 08:36 PM
-4

Sorry. I guess I made the mistake of assuming you all knew that those were situations where a rape had occurred. I was specifically talking about situations that far too many people never learn are not consensual
/r/MensRights13/03/13 08:25 PM
1

Not up here in Canada. Hate speech is illegal and can and will be prosecuted. For that matter, free speech is an antiquated and deeply problematic foundation for the marketplace of ideas. A much better system is that of protected speech, meaning certain forms of speech, including some speech that is considered controversial, must be protected from reprisal despite people disagreeing. Speech that advocates, encourages, or enables dangerous consequences wouldn't be acceptable with that paradigm. F…
/r/MensRights13/03/13 08:12 PM
1

AVFM iirc has a habit of posting the personal information of their opposition while completely disregarding the potential consequences of providing that information to a community known to hide violent misogynists. I would proudly tear down posters I saw broadcasting their message. Warren Farrell has dangerous opinions on issues such as incest and consent and I completely believe that he should not be given a platform to spread views that could lead to higher rates of family rape and dating viol…
/r/MensRights13/03/13 07:52 PM
-1

A followup comment made hours later, with a magnitude fewer votes than the parent comment I said I was specifically talking about. I said in no uncertain terms, enough people agreed with the statement "man who holds garage sale will be charged with domestic violence" that it was the top rated parent comment. Don't you consider that problematic to your movement when it already has a reputation of being a gaggle of misogynist loudmouths with no real foundation in reality?
/r/MensRights13/03/13 07:14 PM
-4

NO. i don't care about the linked article or the actions of the woman mentioned. i was only discussing the completely asinine manger in the top rated comment in this thread. i was specifically calling attention to the fact that (at this time) 24+ people thought it was a good idea to upvote a comment that made a specific claim that has no basis in reality. the claim the parent comment made, in case this community has trouble with reading comprehension, was that a man who held a yard sale would so…
/r/MensRights13/03/13 06:41 PM
-7

well maybe you should have frank discussions with potential sexual partners rather than assume consent. did you interpret body language as consent? did either of you consume any drugs/alcohol prior to the encounter? did you discuss boundaries/limits before initiating contact? did you behave in a way before, during, or after the encounter that would cause your partner to withdraw consent?
/r/MensRights13/03/13 06:02 PM
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yes, i was saying that the rate false accusations occur should be considered outlaying data and ignored when an overall discussion of rape and rape culture is taking place. MRAs talk about false accusations as though they are more commonplace than actual rape accusations.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 05:16 PM
-6

so you're completely comfortable with a top level comment in a top submission in what is essentially (and embarrassingly) the intellectual home of your movement being a completely fabricated conspiracy theory that has no basis in fact? shouldn't you all be spending time trying to craft articulate discussion points about your perceived oppression rather than sitting around and saying "yeah those feeemales are whores amirite?"
/r/MensRights13/03/13 04:31 PM
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Yes, as it should be. Crimes that actually occur should be investigated and tried infinitely more than crimes that don't even fucking happen at statistically significant rates / at all.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 04:04 PM
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Other than conjecture, do you have any relevant data to back up that claim?
/r/MensRights13/03/13 03:50 PM
0

Care to elaborate? I feel I've been pretty civil (though maybe a little irreverent) in this thread and there's no sense in holding an opinion if you can't defend it or it won't hold up under scrutiny. I would think an MRA such as your self, wanting his movement to become credible, would jump at the opportunity to join a discussion with an ideological foe.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 08:27 PM
1

On that I certainly agree with you 100% Luckily I think at least a few people here are able to speak at length in opposition civilly and don't take themselves too serious.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 08:21 PM
-2

Also, how does one "sound like a man" in writing? Do I need to dot my is with little fedoras?
/r/MensRights12/03/13 08:15 PM
0

My source, as I've said in reply to another poster, is either Wikipedia or an about.com article I read a few months ago but didn't bookmark. I'm not going to scour the internet to satisfy your paranoia. Also, you should know that personal anecdotes don't constitute systemic oppression. Maybe there is an excellent reason you weren't awarded custody that you're choosing not to disclose.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 08:13 PM
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As I said, if you go on a non-SRSPrime board and are polite and on-topic, you won't be deleted or banned. Also, I'm not a mod so I don't know why the moderation is somehow any of my business.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 08:08 PM
-3

Well well well, aren't you just a swell swell fellow. Thanks for participating.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 08:05 PM
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Per child per month in both cases. Also because you keep asking me where I got the figures I read them on either Wikipedia or about.com a few months ago and could be stats from 2011.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 07:54 PM
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SRS is a Circlejerk. We don't have serious discussions there. For serious discussions we have /r/SRSDiscussion which despite being still moderated for relevancy and etiquette is permissive of outside participation. I figured this sub counts as the same for you lot.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 07:51 PM
4

In his defense I'm pretty sure I said that like yesterday. So it's not like there's much distance between myself and that statement. Also I'm pretty sure it was more him questioning why a wild SRSer had appeared on fedora archipelago, which I suppose is fair.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 07:13 PM
-4

Way to completely misread me Buddy. Protip: I'm a man with no children.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 07:00 PM
1

If you drive for five minutes, do you go to jail? No. If you drive for five minutes and fatally strike a pedestrian, do you go to jail? Yes.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 06:42 PM
4

No because abortion is a contraceptive choice and is a layer of a broader safe sex and family planning strategy. Just because men can't force women to have an abortion doesn't mean they are being oppressed. Edit for clarity: it is part of practicing safe sex, not something separate.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 06:38 PM
0

because i believe that people with opposing viewpoints should engage in discussion so as to find common ground and strengthen and flush-out the nuances of their worldview? i can't say i recall anything particularly incendiary i've said here, i just think it's important to remind people in (what i see as) a potentially dangerous subculture that they should look for answers outside the echo chamber.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 06:20 PM
-6

Doesn't really matter since the major costs of raising a child still apply even if you only see your kids on weekends. The mortgage, car loan, car insurance, etc. companies don't give you a break because you live alone 70% of the time. but you clearly get a break on the cost of feeding and housing your child. shouldn't that be equalized between parents so that the custodial parent isn't punished because you're not around? If the arrangement is split unevenly, her responsibilty should be even hig…
/r/MensRights12/03/13 06:14 PM
-5

D: !!! Thanks for the trip down memory road. I tip my fedora to you gentlesir! Swift-edit: just because I'm ideologically opposed to the MRM doesn't mean I'm not bringing up rational counter points that the more reasonable fedoristas may agree with.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 06:02 PM
4

Who cares? You can't duck responsibility just because you don't like it. if you don't want children, practice safe sex and only sleep with people who share your desire not to start a family. It's not that complicated
/r/MensRights12/03/13 05:50 PM
-8

We are talking about custodial parent and noncustodial parents here. Not arrangements where custody is split evenly. If you only see your kid on weekends, the person making career sacrifices to raise your child should be compensated.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 05:08 PM
2

Far less as in far less than half. Which means the custodial parent is responsible for being the primary caregiver and primary financier. It should be one or the other. Edit: also, are you really trying to tell me that Tom Cruise is an ideal poster child for your 'movement'?
/r/MensRights12/03/13 04:38 PM
1

You're completely ignoring the likelihood that the men in those relationships were being shitty enough to warrant wanting a divorce.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 04:33 PM
-8

What incentive? Average monthly child support payment in USA: $430. Average monthly cost of raising a child in USA: $1050.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 03:16 PM
-1

ITT: People who still don't understand that child support payments are far less than it costs to raise a child and who still don't understand that child support is designed to support the child they participated in making
/r/MensRights12/03/13 02:14 PM
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Yeah because no man ever is the architect of their own destiny and they are all completely innocent and didn't do a single thing to sabotage the relationship and everything is the fault of those silly feeeeemales
/r/MensRights12/03/13 02:04 PM
0

Average monthly child support payment in USA: $430. Average monthly cost of raising a child in USA: $1050. Yeah the financial incentive is just staggering.
/r/MensRights15/02/13 04:01 PM
-1

Do you honestly not believe that men are far and away more likely to commit acts of sexual violence and that women are far and away more likely to be the victims of sexual violence? Many men (especially here) don't believe that sex by coercion and taking advantage of someone who is drunk are rape. This campaign helps teach people that behaviors they may not understand to be problematic may in fact be and stop them before they happen.
/r/MensRights19/01/13 07:52 PM
-1

Sorry to interrupt the echo chamber, but please elaborate. The MRM's misconceptions of radical feminism are intriguing. What words are you going to put in my mouth?
/r/MensRights10/01/13 03:55 PM
-1

1: this isn't about excluding men from a lecture. 2: this is about empowering and encouraging women to join a field dominated by men that women have been traditionally excluded from 3: there's no such thing as "misandry" 4: shitthatdidnthappen.txt
/r/MensRights05/01/13 01:50 PM
-2

Average monthly child support payment in USA: $430. Average monthly cost of raising a child in USA: $1050. Yeah non-custodial fathers are the real victims here. Seriously, if you had sex and a child happened you can't just pretend it's none of your responsibility.
/r/MensRights04/01/13 09:31 PM
1

As of this reply, the above comment is at +5 karma. TIL MRAs are fine with doxxing their enemies (knowing full well the potentially dangerous people hiding in their midst), but when a known pedophile enabler gets exposed you flip out about your freezed peaches.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 11:47 PM
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