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“get courted” why can’t you do the courting?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:47 AM
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80/20 rule is for dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 08:32 PM
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Disliking men who cry is not the same as being uncomfortable when someone is crying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:48 PM
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I’m assuming you’re a woman by your response. Imo most women aren’t “ruled by” it because they can satisfy their sexual biology wants/needs easily, whereas many men are unable to do this, which is why things like porn and onlyfans are so large, they’re an outlet for their sexual biology, even if not healthy outlets.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 09:47 PM
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What sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 08:26 AM
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I believe there are also more scholarship opportunities for women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:13 AM
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It’s hard to find a woman nowadays that doesn’t have a ridiculously high body count relative to my own because they participate(d) in hooking up with guys out of their league. The difference is, guys can’t do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:52 PM
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How does that validate them? It is not hard at all for a woman to get casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:50 AM
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They wear makeup constantly because they have body dysmorphia. They have altered their views of themselves through makeup, casual sex/OLD, and social media/filters. Many do not feel normal if they go without makeup because they are not comfortable with how they actually look. Big difference between self confidence and painting a new face on top your current one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:19 AM
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They wear makeup constantly because they have body dysmorphia. They have altered their views of themselves through makeup, casual sex/OLD, and social media/filters. Many do not feel normal if they go without makeup because they are not comfortable with how they actually look. Big difference between self confidence and painting a new face on top your current one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:18 AM
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N counts and promiscuity are relevant to relationships though
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:21 PM
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In those religions the woman also isn’t racking up double digit bodies or even fucking anyone before they get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:08 PM
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Convince men it’s all women’s fault they’re alone and unhappy, mobilize them as a voting base. I want to preface this by saying I think political parties are stupid and that both parties are not in the best interest of those who voted them into office. What politicians are even talking about male loneliness? Further, which politicians are blaming that on women? I just don’t think I’ve ever heard a politician talk about those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:54 PM
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Survival of the human species relies on sex. Our brains constantly tell us to reproduce. When someone can’t reproduce their brains indicate something is wrong and they turn to other outlets to satisfy their monkey brain, such as porn. These other outlets are typically not the healthiest and lead to mental illness. Reproduction is at the base of maslows hierarchy of needs, along with shelter, water, air, etc. While I don’t necessarily agree that it is important as those things, biologically speak…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:11 PM
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Maybe we should focus on the societal conditions that have made it so men have higher rates of dropping out, suicide, and loneliness compared to those of women. These men didn’t just wake up one day and decide to drop out of society and smoke weed and play video games all day for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 09:45 PM
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Men have the privilege of not being able to be raped in the UK. /s of course
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:02 AM
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Both can be issues. I very rarely see people talk about how large the human trafficking industry is. I don’t think this is exclusive to men or men’s issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:52 AM
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If you haven’t seen this video yet you should check it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:48 AM
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What specifically do you find hateful about him?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:43 AM
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What do you mean by threat of violence? Also, humans are sexual beings, our monkey brains tell us to reproduce once we hit a certain age. On the very bottom of maslows hierarchy of needs (most important) and on par with air, water, shelter, etc., is reproduction. In the middle is friendship, intimacy, family, and a sense of connection. So while you can technically survive without it, it can be detrimental to one’s health to go without these things for extended periods of time. Women don’t strugg…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:10 AM
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you can’t teach a man emotions, feelings, love affection and friendship is only available via women Nobody really thinks that way. A guy can have a ton of friends that are supportive and still be lonely in a romantic sense. But women on this sub think men only want sex. They disregard their needs to be validated as a sexual being who also requires intimacy from the gender that they are biologically attracted to. There’s a massive difference between getting love from your friends and romantic lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:41 PM
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I don’t think being tall guarantees that they will be able to protect you. I think them being in good shape or knowing how to fight are probably more relevant in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:39 AM
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Being in a relationship doesn’t necessarily mean the couple is in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 03:26 AM
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Key word “their” man. Men in general though, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 12:55 AM
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There’s women on this sub that have said that a man having a lot of bodies is like social proof that he is desirable to other women. So who knows, that may be a high-value trait to some promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 09:54 AM
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Again, you are generalizing. I’m not asexual or homosexual and I want an emotional connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 11:02 PM
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I think we misunderstood each other, I thought you were saying that you’d rather be an ugly/average man, not that you’d rather be in a relationship with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:48 PM
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It’s funny because women don’t have to have any of this social confidence (which only matters for a man if you’re attractive enough). They just have to exist and pick the most attractive man that ticks their long list of requirements and enjoy the performance that the man has to put on for her (taking her out, picking the place, driving her, initiating, initiating kissing/sex). You’re delusional if you think that all is required to be sexually successfully is to have “age appropriate social circ…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:43 PM
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You’re saying you’d rather be an average/ugly man?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:35 PM
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Pretty generalizing and just wrong statement to say men don’t care about any attraction but sexual. Some men might, but some women also might. There’s a lot of people who don’t care just about sexual attraction tho and if you genuinely think that you need to go outside and meet some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:29 PM
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I don’t understand why women can’t “build attraction over time and through actions” (do men not do the same thing? I surely do) and still do some of the initiating themselves. Actually I do, it’s because they don’t want to and don’t have to because dating largely caters to women, so they choose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 09:28 PM
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Why can’t women initiate in men they’re interested in? Instead of trying to get guys to understand how to do it correctly?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 08:42 PM
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Imo can I kiss you sounds better
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 07:56 PM
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It’s funny how you change it from catcalling to cold approach. You want to be right so badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 07:50 PM
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Why don’t the women just do that touching themselves instead of “teaching guys”? I mean, the guys are the ones that have to do the initiating 99% of the time anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 07:42 PM
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I don’t feel comfortable touching someone who doesn’t want to be touched. Not just gonna randomly touch them. I think verbal consent is the move.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 07:37 PM
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The answer is that you’re a woman and you don’t have to be “exciting.” You just have to exist and not be obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 02:30 AM
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What is so exciting about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 02:27 AM
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Yeah you massively underestimate how difficult dating is for men. Being well-socialized and having a good upbringing isn’t enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 02:11 AM
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Must be nice to never have to initiate
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 02:08 AM
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There are so few women that match this list that your son would probably die alone searching for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 02:04 AM
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I do empathize with that and I think many do. What sucks is the people bickering amongst one other about what party is better (nowadays, less worse), when in reality, it’s the same people on both sides who keep screwing everybody over. Agreed. The problem is that the amount of sexless men is growing, yet women are still having the same amount. Implying that few men are having sex with most women. Which is known to be true and has popularized because of OLD and hookup culture being more normalize…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:33 AM
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Many people see abortion as murdering a kid basically, and on top of that, 99% of men aren’t writing that legislation and passing it, it’s more just lobbyists and career politicians. Also, I know you just wish all men that couldn’t get sex would just give up, but that isn’t realistic. Like the person you’re arguing with said, lack of intimacy (in this case, romantic intimacy) can lead to feelings of low self-worth and then mental health issues. You don’t realize how craving romantic intimacy may…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:14 AM
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The majority of those people that are left out are men. Just say it as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 07:07 AM
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I think the advice is improve your looks, finances, and status as much as you reasonably can. Not be Chris Hemsworth. You’re over-exaggerating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 07:05 AM
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This is extremely generalizing and I’d say it doesn’t even apply to most men. Just because a man hooks up with YOU and doesn’t want a relationship with YOU, doesn’t mean they don’t want a relationship with another woman. It just means that at the time, they preferred to sleep with you than masturbating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 07:01 AM
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Is it really that challenging? Why not just ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 06:53 AM
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They stoop so low because at the time hooking up with them is more appealing than going home and jacking off. They wouldn’t ever consider that person for a relationship but inflate the ego of the woman they’re hooking up with because they now think they’re higher value since they were able to hook up with someone that “could be with attractive young women their own age.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 06:57 AM
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The guy might think the same if you aren’t escalating/initiating anything. It makes you seem uninterested.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:14 AM
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You know that someone can be interested in a conversation and not be sexually interested in the person they’re having it with, right..?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:13 AM
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There’s a massive difference between “someone” and 30 other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:33 AM
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It doesn’t bother you that your partners body count might be high because you yourself were promiscuous. For someone who wasn’t promiscuous though, I don’t want to be with someone who was. Like I’m not saying you should ask or that everyone should, but I also don’t think it’s an offensive question or a particularly weird question, especially when asking someone that you might spend the rest of your life with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:20 PM
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I think the question is geared towards women because they are much more easily able to have a “hoe phase” and sleep around compared their male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:08 PM
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Has he asked you what your count is? Or is he being willfully ignorant because he doesn’t want to know how high it is? It’s a question that takes a second to answer, I don’t see why it would be childish or wrong to ask your partner what their count is, considering you probably just want to get to know them better. For you maybe body count doesnt matter, but for me I don’t plan on entering a relationship before knowing their body count because I don’t plan on dating someone who was promiscuous an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:00 PM
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You act as if women have personalities that are at all more appealing. You think that because you are a woman. The majority of men would likely also think that men have more appealing personalities. Your personal biases are clouding your judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:31 AM
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Thick skulled comment. Men take on like 99% of the manual labor jobs that maintain society. There are plenty of women that are unlikeable, in fact in my experience men are usually more easy going and less self-entitled and annoying. Most women’s personalities nowadays are just Netflix, social media, drinking with their friends, makeup, and shopping. It honestly sounds like you just want to hate men because you feel entitled to a better man than you are able to get, making you despise all the men…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:15 AM
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You’re overcomplicating it. If you’re attractive enough you can be an asshole and get away with it, but if you aren’t then not likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:10 AM
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Maybe you are asexual. There are plenty of women that are attracted to men. A counter argument to your rant: women’s standards have been inflated by hookup culture, makeup, and social media. They believe they deserve higher value men than they are able to date. This is because they are able to hook up with these higher value men at parties/OLD and whatnot, usually because of alcohol and lowered inhibitions by the male. She thinks because she is sleeping with these men (who are just using her, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:01 AM
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What does OPs post have to do with racism? Also facts aren’t racist..
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:01 PM
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Found the person who gets child support money
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:50 PM
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I don’t see what this has to do with racism and incarceration. However, 13% of the population counts for 50% of the violent crime. I would except that group to be incarcerated at higher rates. Also I don’t see why they would go to rallies for it or anything, considering the violence perpetrated towards white men and destruction that these rallies have created. I guess that makes sense though considering it was that 13% group that was participating in the rallies. That’s my understanding at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:47 PM
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I don’t think they hook up with girls that are disgusting, they just lower their standards and hook up with women that they wouldn’t otherwise have a relationship with
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:44 AM
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Lol yea and by the time they find each other she is ran through and he’s still a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:30 AM
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It’s much easier for women to be alone because they don’t have to deal with the lack of intimacy. They can practically get a guy delivered to their house for free lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:27 AM
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For me it’s a low standard. For others it may not be. Doesn’t matter if it’s a low or high standard to be honest because people can have whatever standards they would like to have. Why don’t all the fat people just date the other fat people?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:24 AM
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If you’re fat yourself then it’s not a low standard. If you are not fat then it’s a low standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:15 AM
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“I know plenty of women that should be able to get a great guy that are just magnetically drawn to degenerate assholes.” No offense, but those women are likely the exact ones I was talking about. The guys they go for are likely out of their league. Those guys know that and knowingly decide to not commit since he could do better, but still fuck her anyways because at the moment it’s better than masturbating. Combine that with peoples inhibitions being lowered by alcohol/drugs at parties and it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:08 AM
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You’re spot on. They don’t want to admit that they are being used by those HVMs and continue to have casual sex with them in hopes that they will be able to tie one of them down for a relationship. When in reality, he would never be caught in public with her since he doesn’t want people to think they’re together as she isn’t up to his standards. It’s actually crazy how shit these women let guys like that treat them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:02 AM
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It’s not that the Chad decided against the other women. It’s that the woman he chose was a better choice than masturbating for him. Which they may only be because the guy is drunk/horny. Make no mistake though, he would never be caught in public with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:35 PM
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How did you come to this conclusion? Do you know how male anatomy works? Genuine question.. it seems like you’re trying to troll. You’re either trolling or you’re just that thick skulled lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:54 PM
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Because it’s easy for them to sleep with those women and if they’re horny it’s just the easiest and quickest way for them to get their dicks wet. A good example is parties because their inhibitions are lowered by alcohol/hormones, however once the post nut clarity kicks in and the alcohol wears off then he realizes his mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:11 PM
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This is kind of disproved by women who are attracted to the k-pop band member type guy and the thin/tall pretty white boy look. Both are relatively new too
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 11:03 PM
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What do you consider as sleeping around?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:52 PM
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The point is that the men he’s talking about have to put in much more effort in than most women to achieve similar results.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:45 PM
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Because women who opt out of the dating pool still have no issue finding ONS or a FWB. They don’t struggle with the “misery” because they still have access to intimacy. The men, on the other hand, that you are saying should opt out of the dating pool, obviously don’t have access to this. You’re basically telling them to ignore a biological innate desire. That’s how you get men that are depressed and destructive to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:40 PM
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He’s comparing the effort men must put into dating to women who don’t have to put much effort in besides deciding if they want to say yes or no to a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:32 PM
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I’m not talking about Instagram models with thousands of followers. I’m not saying others should be treated poorly but lying to a 4/10 and telling her she is gorgeous will probably inflate her view of herself and possibly cause issues (eating disorders/body dysmorphia ) down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:29 PM
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I said perceived SMV
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:10 PM
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What a naive generalization
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:08 PM
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Many low value women overestimate themselves because they think how they look with makeup and filters is how they actually look. They think Chad drunkingly hooking up with them makes it so they are in the league of Chad, when in reality, he just wanted an easy fuck. They get flooded with comments from their friends on social media saying how “gorgeous” they are, even if they are a 4 looking like a pig with lipstick. Women’s egos/perceived SMV has definitely been inflated for many.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:02 PM
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I don’t think the majority of men see women as “sexy by default” or how history books affect that. They may be hornier for a hookup or something, but once the post-nut clarify hits they realize the mistake they made. I think many women’s perceived sexual market value has been inflated by makeup, filters, and the instant gratification of social media and hookup culture. They see themselves in makeup and filters every day, giving themselves a false view of their bodies and faces. Hookup culture ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:57 PM
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You are both wrong. They should benefit both the man and the woman. If not it’s not a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:38 PM
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The difference is, most women dont have to do any of this. They just have to say yes or no to the advances.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:36 PM
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I don’t think the inflated ego part is disconnected tbh. Makeup, filters, and validation from hookup culture and social media has inflated the egos of these women and given them a false image of themselves and how they actually look. That is why body dysmorphia is an issue with many young women, they are in denial about how their bodies/faces actually look, especially when they compare themselves to other women on social media who use the same makeup and filters.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:19 PM
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I deleted what? I haven’t deleted anything on this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:04 PM
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I didn’t say that they’re getting sexual too fast or that they make inappropriate jokes. I also didn’t say he was entitled to her time. But if she is to accept the date and go, she should give him the decency of at least not ghosting him. Of course there are exceptions, that isn’t what we are talking about. Re-read everything you seem confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:31 PM
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Good for you, you keep doing that, but that isn’t good enough reason. If you have to ghost that many people then you are the problem not them. You can break off contact without ghosting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:35 PM
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Most men cannot just decide to wake up one day and start dating like a woman could. I think that is the disconnect that is hard for you to understand. I don’t see the “issue” you were trying to point out. Your comment made barely any sense and idk how you got to that conclusion from what I said. Have a good one
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:49 AM
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You’ve missed the point entirely. Maybe re-read everything. No point in arguing with someone who can’t understand or is willfully ignorant. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:38 AM
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I never said I was doing everything right, I’m not. I’m also not like those men who give that attention, I don’t want to just be another guy competing for their attention. In terms of biology, reproducing is an instinct that species use to ensure the survival of their own species. So you could argue that because the population is so large, there is no need for reproduction, so it’s not a need. That isn’t the case though, we’re still animals who are driven by our biological needs, whether they be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:12 AM
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Doing everything “right” as a woman, in terms of dating, is not very difficult. You don’t have to approach anyone. Forget worrying about approaching a person to dance, if you’re a woman they approach you 99% of the time. Men are expected to do all the work, all the approaching, all the initiating sex and whatnot. You doing “everything right” is not hard by any means for a woman. For men, women are extremely selective, so it’s harder for us. I know women who are 4-5/10 in attractiveness who have …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 11:39 PM
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When I said “tying down” I meant dating/commitment, sorry for any confusion. This inflated ego makes them think they deserve higher value partners in general because they believe they are more attractive than they are. It’s not only because of hookup culture, it’s also due to things like nonstop use of makeup and filters, warping these women’s sense of how they actually look. Statistically, I think you could find a Tinder study or an online dating study that supports that. https://thebolditalic.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:21 PM
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They hook up with the guys who are higher value than them and then think because the guy had sex with them that they are higher value than they actually are. The guy almost never commits to her, because he was just using her for sex, then the woman rejects the guys that are her looksmatch because she thinks she deserves a guy like the higher value man she was with. So a lot of these women will just hook up with guys who are out of their league (because that’s the only way they can be that intima…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:08 PM
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If you are attractive enough
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:57 PM
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Strawman argument. I don’t necessarily agree with OP though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:42 PM
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You’re doing the same exact thing. Looking at the surface of these men and nothing else. How do you know that they don’t dress well, are fun to be around, etc.? Its Reddit, most people don’t post their entire lives on here. It’s a pretty dumb generalization you’re trying to make because it has almost zero logical credence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 08:34 PM
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That would be women’s feelings for these men (attraction, “the tingles”, etc.) conditioning them. Makeup in many cases has granted women access to men out of their league because of how much it can alter their appearances. Thus, they enjoy the extra attention/getting men they would not be able to get without makeup, conditioning them to further wear makeup. Then, they are so used to wearing makeup that they feel hideous without it and have to apply it every day to feel normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 11:50 AM
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Can’t tell if you’re being intentionally thick-skulled or if you weren’t taught reading comprehension..
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 11:36 AM
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This sub typically says that women are more attracted to men with options because it shows that they are desired by other women. If I remember correctly, most women agreed because it’s proof by other women that the guy is desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 11:19 PM
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Where in this post does OP say that Chads are inherently bad people?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 02:13 AM
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You’re yet to refute a single point. Please enlighten me. Show me the evidence that says this sub thinks Chads and Stacey’s are inherently bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:44 PM
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I just assumed it just meant someone who can easily get sex or a relationship because they are more desirable than majority of their competition. And obviously there are still bad Chads and Stacys as there are just bad people in general. I think you’re talking about this sub talking about Chads pumping and dumping women. In most cases, the Chad did nothing toxic in the interaction and the women are mad they couldn’t get him to commit, so they talk bad about him and say he’s a piece of shit. If t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:40 PM
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The rhetoric isn’t that Chad or Stacey are bad. It’s just that they are most successful in terms of dating and sex. Some people resent them because they have what they cannot themselves get, but that’s another issue and doesn’t mean they are inherently bad people for being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:27 PM
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Attractive people can also be awful people. You’re trying to make generalizations about something that cannot be generalized because the variety of people is so different and unique that it wouldn’t fit under your personal definitions of “good” and “bad” unless you believe in objective morality. I don’t see why you’re trying to argue that people think attractive people are inherently bad because I would argue that it’s the opposite way around and most people perceive attractive people initially …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:17 PM
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You understand how generalizing those statements are right? This sub is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:46 PM
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True, however, someone can also be attractive while not being very social and not meeting people so they dont know how they’re perceived by others at least in terms of looks (not in all cases of course)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 06:51 PM
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Men have to do 99% of the courting, approaching, making moves, etc. while the woman usually just has to show up. Men want to feel desired too :’)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:01 PM
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Do you not consider militaries forcibly conscripting men in their country to fight in wars throughout history as genocide? Imo it is most definitely androcide and still happens to this day (see Ukraine). I don’t think “more widely liked” would be the term for it. Women are inherently valued while men usually have to provide something to be valued. There’s a reason women don’t have to fight in wars. There’s a reason for the women are wonderful effect. They are just more valued at their base level…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:56 PM
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Coercion: the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats. How is asking for dating advice equivalent to using force and threats? You could replace “force or threats” with unethical means. Even so, how is it unethical to ask for dating advice? Women here and on social media complain about men and how they aren’t good enough, but now it’s considered coercion to even ask for advice on how to get better? Just file this as another case of women not knowing what the fuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:22 PM
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And she will always compare him to the other guys she has hooked up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:18 PM
1

From when I’ve heard it in conversations and whatnot I’ve heard it referred to as body count most the time
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:56 PM
2

N-count matters to a lot of people and is a dealbreaker for many if it’s too high. The ones complaining if a body count is too high are likely not the ones contributing to it because then they themselves would have a high body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:44 PM
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I’d rather my future 18yo daughter dates a 18yo healthy student than a 30yo man who has no other 18yo male friends and just wants to fuck a 18yo. The 30yo is also likely more manipulative and acts as a sugar daddy to the 18yo. 30yo dating a 18yo is gross even if legal and I would not be happy if I had a daughter and that’s what she brought home.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:05 PM
1

You say you wouldn’t care but you literally don’t know if you would care or not. You’re just assuming you wouldn’t care but you’re judgment is clouded by your past experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:29 PM
1

Much, much less active than r/ForeverAlone
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:27 PM
-2

“I also don’t think I would care that much tbh.” Wow. Do yourself a favor and check out r/ForeverAlone . So many of those men are miserable. You don’t think you would care because you’re so used to getting attention all the time. You would definitely care, but your judgment is so clouded because of your past experiences that it’s hard for you to see from a perspective of a man who doesn’t get any attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 12:09 PM
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How is that a nasty comment? It’s the internet on a discussion board for fucks sake. They’re not obliged to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 11:33 AM
1

You’re not obliged to sleep with men who don’t make you/don’t try to make you orgasm. Why have sex if your partner isn’t going to try to make you orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 07:04 AM
4

It helps determine whether you would be compatible with your partner in the long term or not. A too high body count can definitely be a deal breaker for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:42 AM
1

How many bodies from casual sex have you had?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:39 AM
1

For someone who is 20, in my opinion, 10 bodies would be “ridiculously high.” Interesting that you’re 20 and for you it’s 50-60 bodies. I guess for women it doesn’t seem as much because the amount of options they have to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:59 AM
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The men who control that amount of wealth account for like 0.001% of the population. Saying “the great majority of men” are comfortable using that power doesn’t make sense, because the great majority of men do not have that type of wealth. You’re just dodging taking accountability for taking advantage of men who were lonely and desperate for a woman to take interest in them. It’s like me saying the vast majority of women do this, even though it’s likely much less than that. Just because there’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:27 AM
1

That’s what women say all the time in the sub in regards to male sexlessness. Male sexlessness is on the rise, male suicide rates at all time highs, loneliness and depression are rampant among modern day men. When these issues are brought up on this sub, women often say “why should I care?” or “it’s a man issue created by men so why should women care?” He’s just using their argument against them, because women do not sympathize with the men on this sub who struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:37 PM
2

The man could want to go to the same place but didn’t bring it up because they thought the woman didn’t want to. This would be fixed if the woman said where they want to go. I don’t think what you said is unique to men. Also this is PPD not r/TwoXChromosomes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:27 PM
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Imagine being able to choose when you have multiple people in your “sex rotation” and them all being people that you find attractive and able to please you in bed. No offense at all, you’re just taking advantage of a system that benefits you, but talk about women’s privilege. Being able to be this selective of who you get to be with, being able to have so many options in dating/sex, and being single on your own terms are definitely privileges that women have much more so than men. Yes there are …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:10 PM
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What “fairytale” says that? Statistically, if you are a man, you are more likely to be a virgin than if you were a woman. I’m sure there are some guys that want a virgin woman to settle with, however I would assume a portion of them are religious and the others make up an extremely small percentage of the male population. Maybe this “fairytale” is more widespread in other parts of the world where women do not have as many rights/respect as they do in the west. In the US, at least, I’m pretty sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:53 PM
2

Doubt I’m the only one. The people I see most talking about men acting this way on this sub are women and not the men saying these things. I think because they are negative they stick with you more and you tend to remember it more. Idk. It isn’t worth arguing but I feel like there isn’t as much of this sentiment by men as y’all are portraying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:39 PM
2

I’m not like that and I am a male on this sub. There is sooo much generalizing on this sub it’s actually ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:31 PM
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A common theme I see on this sub is a man posting about men’s issues relating to relationships and women (similar to this) and women in the comments turning it entirely into an argument of “we shouldn’t be forced to have sex with those men!” even though it was never a talking point in the original thread. Nobody is saying to force women to have sex with people they don’t want. Women on this sub just constantly bring up how men only want sex or how men only talk to women for sex, and I don’t doub…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:24 PM
1

You keep quoting that line but keep misinterpreting what he means by it..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 12:02 AM
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No, because he is not saying these men have a right to sex/relationships with these women. He is stating why many men feel frustrated in this regard, nowhere did he say that these women should have to accept the advances of those men. Women would also feel frustrated if they were in the same boat and couldn’t have a lengthy list of requirements for the men they wanted and actually had to be with men in their own league, however hookup culture, social media, and online dating has inflated the ego…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:57 PM
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No, that is not what OP is saying. He was simply explaining where the frustration comes from and the misconception that these men feel as if they “entitled to sex.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:40 PM
1

Again, OP is talking about it in terms of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:32 PM
1

That doesn’t mean that women crave for sex. It means that WHEN OR IF they crave for it, they can have it. You are reading it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:14 PM
1

I didn’t say that. But men on average get rejected a shit ton more than women when it comes to dating. Many women tend to have a lengthy list of requirements for what they want in a man and will only attempt for the top percentage of men, meaning their rejection would be fixed if they dated someone within their own league. Men on the other hand have lower standards and will date varying types of women, yet they are rejected at a much higher rate. What seems to be common is women getting pumped a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:19 PM
1

Less success may stem from a lack of attempting or putting yourself out there, while repeated failure comes from being rejected repeatedly while attempting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:07 PM
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This only works if you are attractive enough. If you are introverted and not attractive enough you’ll have none of those experiences with women that you described and you’ll just be invisible to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:59 PM
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Whatever you say bud. Personally, I don’t feel the need to act like I’m smarter than I am to internet strangers, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:55 PM
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r/iamverysmart Not like you would know if they are all easy because you likely took one easy major with easy classes throughout. Not every school offers the same classes, and many of the same classes are taught differently depending on the professor. You’re just coming off as pretentious now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:49 PM
3

I would say the difficulty of university varies depending on your major and classes. Maybe it’s really really easy if you’re doing a general business degree, not sure how easy it is for students who are aspiring doctors though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:41 PM
1

Relying on your money to get women is a great way to get shallow women that don’t give a fuck about you and use you for your wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:55 AM
3

I have friends and I am involuntarily celibate. What now?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:53 AM
3

Interesting that you generalize all those men as creeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:50 AM
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The post is about dating. Are you assuming that men do not desire an emotional connection in a relationship either? I don’t see why men wouldn’t desire the same things that you listed that women desire. Only difference is that women have more options to choose from while many men have none. I’ll be honest that I’m a virgin; I don’t desire casual sex but I want a relationship where there is a strong emotional connection and where she is my best friend. Why is it so hard for so many people on this…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:41 AM
1

What’s it have to do with being horny? OP is talking about women having more opportunities in dating, not casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:24 AM
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OP wasn’t saying that women “crave to have sex anytime.” He said that they can have sex whenever they crave it. So, whenever they want it, meaning they may/will not always want it, they can have it. You twisted his words into saying that he believes women are constantly craving sex. He also was talking about dating, though you tried to turn this into an argument about casual sex. Not sure if you don’t have reading comprehension or if you’re trolling, but you should read a bit closer before comme…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:21 AM
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I was talking about the first link. Why even include it if it isn’t relevant to self-help coaching?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:47 PM
5

Do you even know what a self-improvement coach is? The link you gave is just Instagram influencers/models. Big difference between a social media influencer and a self-improvement coach.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:32 PM
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Those are just Instagram models. OP meant self-improvement coaches with actual substance, not women who post themselves half-naked on Instagram and post vague captions about motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:26 PM
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If you genuinely think that is the case, it’s probably a problem with you. Women have so many choices, just sounds like you need to better yourself if you want a man of higher value. Either that or be with men in your own league rather than trying to be the 6th woman that chad pumped and dumped that day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 05:29 PM
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I assume most assaults and murders in general are done by someone known to them. Not specific to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 04:41 PM
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It’s because they have more opportunities than men do when seeking relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 04:33 PM
2

Logically, if men are more afraid of being alone, they they would also be more afraid of separating as that would lead them to being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:32 PM
2

It is because men do not have the abundance of choices that women do when it comes to sex/dating, so if they lose their partner then they are less likely to find another one. Women would be less scared to lose a partner because their abundance of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:01 PM
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It’s a classic case of women not knowing what they want but pretending like they do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:53 PM
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Women should fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:50 PM
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It’s easy to not give a fuck when you’re a woman and are able to get dates by default. As a man, if you want a relationship with a woman, and you have never been able to have one, then yes, you are likely going to try to gauge how attractive you are to women. Believe it or not, most men do not have the same privilege of having a plethora of options like women do when it comes to dating, so they actually have to better themselves in order to get into a relationship or to garner any options at all…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:01 PM
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Common sense. Evolutionary psychology in relation to reproductive success. You think that a guy that is a 2/10 has the same chance of falling in love as a guy who is a 8/10? You have not refuted a single one of my points and keep pointing to marriage as an indicator of love. I’m done responding to you as you clearly have no intention of having an insightful discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:52 PM
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Did I say none? Im saying attractive people are more likely to fall in love than unattractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:45 PM
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I disagree. I don’t see why you think unattractive people have the same odds of falling in love as attractive people. Many women literally become more interested in a man when they see that other women are also interested in him. Check out r/foreveralone , I think you’re vastly underestimating how hard it is for unattractive men to find a partner and fall in love. I think it is easier for unattractive women as they still have many options, but unattractive men tend to go many years if not their …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:34 PM
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Marriage does not equate to love. There are many marriages that consist of couples who do not love each other. Perhaps unattractive people are less willing to divorce as they do not believe that they’ll ever be able to find another partner? I honestly can’t tell if you’re trolling or not, it’s not rocket science that being more attractive gives you more options.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:26 PM
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Talk about privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:03 PM
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More options = more chances to fall in love. The more attractive you are, the more likely someone will fall in love with you. I feel like it’s not very complicated. Obviously you can still experience love if you are not in the top percentage of looks, but someone who is attractive is more likely to fall in love than someone who is not. It’s just a numbers game and you garner more interest the better looking you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:58 PM
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You are delusional if you don’t think attractive people are more likely to experience romantic love, or just love, than unattractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:50 PM
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People enjoy pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:56 PM
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It’s because you don’t interact with the men who are the sexless, forever alone type. They aren’t invited to parties, they aren’t talked to at class/work, they probably just do whatever they do and go back home to wallow in their depression. Male depression and suicide rates are at all time highs I believe. I’m just saying just because you don’t personally interact with them doesn’t mean they don’t exist in the real world, people like you just (maybe subconsciously) choose to ignore them as they…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:39 PM
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Because no matter how much they mutilate their bodies, they’re still the same gender. You chose to bring transgenders into a discussion that had nothing to do with them. You said he sounds immensely bitter over women while not refuting a single point he said. I don’t think you could understand what it’s like for men and instead of expressing at least empathy you call him bitter. Ask a man who has been a man his whole life and has experienced life as a man and you’ll see how life is like for a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:24 PM
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How many of the other 80% of men are settling for the other 20% of women? I’m a virgin and I could probably get laid if I lowered my standards, however I have no intention of doing so which I assume is the same case for some other men. I think 80% of men settling for the other 20% of women is very plausible. Not the entire 80%, because there would be outliers like me who don’t want to lower their standards to fuck the women in the bottom 20%. I agree that the average man can have sex but that do…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 11:50 PM
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I don’t think you bothered to even look up what evolution psychology is. Biologically, the goal of most living organisms is to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 03:07 AM
1

Wow you are insensitive. Men cannot control the high standards of women when most of their prerequisites are genetic that cannot be controlled, such as height and facial structure. For the second point, you pretty much just ignored what I said and changed goalposts so I’ll ignore what you said. For your last point, I don’t see this really. There has definitely been a push for woman body positivity where I haven’t seen the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:49 PM
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I actually see the opposite most times with it being an attractive male and less attractive female. This is probably subjective considering women find 80% of men unattractive. Because they sit on social media all day staring at these Instagram models who have bodies altered by filters, makeup, and plastic surgery, yet they don’t take a moment to realize that it’s not natural and become insecure. They also have more things to get plastic surgery on (boobs, ass) and are obsessed with looking like …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:40 PM
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You’re delusional if you don’t think the large majority of people who exercise are men. Just like there are men who get fat eating chips and watching tv, there are women who do the same thing. Difference is, standards are much higher for men and they have to physically change their bodies to appear more attractive while women are told that they are perfect and are showered with body positivity and compliments regardless of their body shape/size. Again, you’re delusional or just only oblivious if…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:24 PM
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What do women do in terms of putting effort into their appearance that men do not? Most of the people I’ve seen in the gym are men. I don’t think putting on makeup for an hour each day counts as putting effort into their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:11 PM
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And what do women do that men do not in terms of taking care of their looks? Most people I have seen in the gym are men. Most women do not have to go to the gym to maintain their attractiveness, they just have to not get fat and keep applying makeup. Men have to put much more effort in than woman in terms of taking care of their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:08 PM
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The men being forced to fight in those wars also didn’t have any say in if the war would happen. Just because they’re the same gender doesn’t mean that they can telepathically tell Putin to stop the war. I can’t tell if you’re trolling or if you genuinely think that men being drafted is the fault of the man because of his gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 11:32 PM
1

You know what entitlement means, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 12:56 AM
3

I don’t think Tim Tebow is the only exception to that..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 12:23 AM
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I don’t think I’ve seen one person on this sub say they feel as if they are “owed” a virgin woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 09:17 PM
1

It’s definitely the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:43 PM
8

normal range for Gen Z males*
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 10:48 PM
3

I am a man. I disagree with your part about men and sex. That’s a blanket statement that doesn’t pertain to all men. Many generalizations are made on this sub but people need to realize that just because you’re male or female doesn’t mean you have the same values as every other person in the gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 06:59 PM
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It’s different for men and women because women have a plethora of options to choose from while men usually have none. This means as a man if you want to date you can’t be passing up on some options because they may be the only ones you get. Women however hook up with guys that are out of their league who would never commit to them. This creates a false level of self worth for these women making it so they don’t see their male counterparts/looksmatch as their equals but as less than them. Then th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:25 AM
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You’re delusional if you think you can easily become an 8. Majority of it is just genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:09 AM
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I doubt they all think the same. You are probably both right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:07 AM
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Man, you need to break up with her. She fucking cheated on you. Come to your senses.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 12:54 AM
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Opposed to women who don’t approach at all. Y’all are calling incels pathetic when most of them don’t have negative views on women and just haven’t had success with women. Most of these incels just don’t feel like competing with the other 30 dudes in the woman’s dms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:16 PM
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Notice how she replied to the other two people but not you. She knew you were right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:50 AM
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You made it sound like all men have an idea of what their looksmatch is, however in comparison to women, men are less experienced in general and have less to go off of when determining their looksmatch. It makes it hard when trying to find a partner because you don’t really know what league you’re in so you don’t know if you’re selling yourself short or going for girls you’ll never get.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 12:05 PM
2

I think makeup plays a role in this because in the US the majority of women wear it which greatly alters their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 11:56 AM
1

As a man I honestly have no clue who/what my looks match is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 11:28 AM
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That’s not a uniquely woman problem. I’d argue that men are impacted more in regards to your last sentence. Lots of men, probably most, have and never will be approached by a female who is looking for a relationship/hook up with them. Imagine how frustrating it must be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:29 PM
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By this logic, most men’s relationships are low effort because they are the ones who have to approach the majority of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:22 PM
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This seems like something that if the guy is attractive it’s flirting but if they are ugly it’s being a creep and stalker
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:18 PM
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True but id say 45 is much more mentally mature than 20 than 20 is to 16 in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:46 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:40 AM
3

Why no?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:22 AM
2

Yes but if you need to first hit that threshold before status matters that means that looks are valued more.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:53 AM
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But if the lead comedian is 5’6, overweight, and balding, his status wouldn’t matter nearly as much. If the guy you’re talking about is already attractive then you’re going to say status because he already meets your attractiveness standards, therefore you now want the best status out of all the guys of similar attractiveness to him. I disagree with your point, I think that most women would value looks over status. I just don’t see how the obese 5’6 lead comedian has anything on 6’2 chad who is …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:10 AM
2

Maybe but in relationships you should be able to open up about that stuff to your partner and vent about your feelings. It’s not always about fixing/identifying the issues like what a therapist or psychologist may try to do. Being able to vent to your partner is therapeutic on its own for many id assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 01:10 AM
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What men are requesting that you be their personal therapist or psychologist? The closest situation I can see to this happening is a man opening up and talking about their issues and it was overbearing to the woman or they did not care about their issues, so they say they do not want to be their personal therapist/psychologist to get out of the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:08 AM
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How so? Who creates these beauty ideals? In my honest opinion, everyone here is looking into the celebrity part too closely when they should be looking at things like testosterone levels of men today versus the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:56 PM
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I’m not justifying them wanting sex so fast but the stringing along thing is used by women usually so they have fast replacements for the current guys they’re talking to if things don’t work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:30 AM
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I don’t think they’re killing themselves because they can’t get laid. I think loneliness is a factor for a lot, but there’s also addiction, depression, etc. If you wanna generalize all those men who have taken their lives as doing so because they couldn’t get laid then you’re just being inconsiderate and a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:47 PM
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People are at the least indifferent towards female virgins but virginity in males is seen as undesirable and as a negative trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:40 PM
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I don’t get what you’re arguing. Obviously you’re not forced to date anybody and are free to choose who you spend your time with. Nobody is disagreeing with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 08:01 PM
4

..it’s a movie not real life
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 12:10 AM
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I personally don’t act like a piece of shit to others like that but it doesn’t change whether they will to me or not. I agree with what you’re saying because I think people in general need to be better rather than just blaming it on a gender, however I do feel like with women as the gatekeepers of relationships have more responsibility in that area. To each their own though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 10:05 PM
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I don’t really see what you think you’re getting at. Women for most part are the gatekeepers of relationships and sex. I don’t get why you think they should get off with being shit people but it should be up to men to fix it and to just be ok with how they act?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 09:51 PM
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Yes, because one person on Reddit made a comment where he used all caps, all men who aren’t getting sex are scary. I think he’s spot on with them fucking chad and then being salty that they can’t lock him down for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 03:45 PM
1

Why do you think the FDA is attempting to hide the extent of the vaccine trial results until 2096? 75 years of hiding data.. why would they do that if they had nothing to hide?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:12 PM
1

Because they’re the ones who make the vaccines..?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:31 PM
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I would be more likely to agree if pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer didn’t have billions of dollars of fines for disregarding the health of those who used their products for profits. Or maybe if they weren’t the ones fueling the opioid epidemic. I don’t think the vaccine is completely safe and I do think it is beneficial to some, but suppressing other remedies so their vaccine could be distributed under emergency authorization is classic pharmaceutical shady tactics and has cost people their…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 12:28 PM
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Imagine how hard it is for men then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 07:00 AM
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They break those boundaries for more attractive men who they could never lock down for a relationship in a million years and then complain that they used them for sex. All they have to do is properly vet them before having sex rather than acting impulsively.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:55 AM
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No, but you probably would be flattered if the guy was one you deemed attractive enough. If he wasn’t then you’d consider him creepy. The guy who is more attractive and a worse person is more likely to get laid than the other guy because these women who are under his league fuck him to try to get him to be in a relationship with them, when in reality they should vet them properly and make sure they want something more before fucking them. That is the job of women because they have a plethora of …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:53 AM
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Being pushy about a product that is bad is much less likely to work than for a product that is good and fits the needs of the customer. Basically if the guy is attractive it’s bold and confident of him, if he’s not attractive enough for the woman then they call him creepy and scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:48 AM
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If you’re talking about the covid vaccine then I think you would be naive to believe those who are against it aren’t logical. Like you said, work with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:45 AM
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You can vet the dude before fucking them you know. You can have a conversation about what you both want from each other before having any sex. The issue is women fucking dudes who are clearly out of their league in hopes of locking them down and then cry when they say they don’t want a relationship. Literally just communicate if you want a relationship or not, I don’t get why that is so hard to understand. Meeting chad at a party and fucking them an hour after and then being surprised when they …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:42 AM
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I would say men’s standards are overall lower because the lack of options they have. Women on the other hand are used to having many options and then complain when not all of those guys are Prince Charming. If men have high standards for love then the bar set for men by women must be in outer space. Also I would say for the most part that women are the gatekeepers of sex since they expect to be approached and for the man to do all the initiating. The problem is women who aren’t attractive enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:28 AM
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You just ignore the fact that it’s an extreme minority. I don’t think you realize how many involuntary celibate guys there are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 04:58 PM
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Those countries also have more sex trafficking issues and less rights for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 12:36 PM
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You realize incel just means involuntary celibate, right? The large majority of men who are incels are not violent as you make them out to be. They’re just regular people who haven’t had luck in relationships for one reason or another. Where is this community you talk about? Just admit you’re wrong and stop doing mental gymnastics to justify demonizing men who you dislike.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:49 PM
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Incel = involuntary celibate. Nothing about being violent or wanting to rape people. The comment I was replying to did not make it clear they were talking about this “community” which I am still yet to find. They were talking about incels in general and saying they are all violent rapists is both incorrect and harmful to those who don’t partake in whatever communities you are referring to. You say classic men but I feel like you either failed to read the comments before or are making up context …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:45 PM
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Look it up
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:32 PM
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I disagree, look into the women-are-wonderful effect. I think you’re right for some people but not the majority
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 12:54 PM
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There are shitty people in the world in general, that won’t change. There are many people in this thread demonizing incels when in reality the majority of them are normal people who do not wish harm on others. Those communities you are referencing (which I have not seen even though people talk about it like they are common) are the extreme minority, and while what they are doing/saying is definitely bad, there are too many people grouping in all involuntary celibate men with them in this thread.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:50 AM
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You are spot on but they will continue to call them people who want to rape and murder women because they would rather suppress the issue and make these men drop out of society than express sympathy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:07 AM
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Are you done “laughing” to answer the question? Or are you going to dodge it again?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:00 AM
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Why have men had issues with these problems but not women? I assume most trades are occupied by men and the work force is near half and half. Also, I agree with the sexual access point, but I also don’t see who is saying to just mandate women to fuck these dudes because it is nobody or an extremely small minority. The issue is the lack of intimacy, you can masturbate in lieu of having sex but you can’t get the other things a relationship brings, making one feel as if they have lower worth and ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:59 AM
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They weren’t talking about sexual assault/rape victims. They’re saying they should vet the people they sleep with so they know that they are decent enough people to respect their boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:09 AM
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It’s mostly women because they know if they treat their partner poorly they still have plenty of other options to choose from if their partner decides to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 03:14 PM
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This is something u/throwingwearethrowin would do
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 08:31 PM
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u/Sarkbee - 1, u/throwingwearethrowin - 0 You want men to put you on a pedestal and respect you but won’t even do the bare minimum in regards to dating
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 08:26 PM
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That doesn’t mean that every guy with a weak jawline will look better with a beard though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 11:33 PM
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Most women nowadays see men as disposable and as trash. It is a very small minority of women who advocate for men’s rights. The draft is an example of this. Women will advocate for equal rights for all, sure, great, but they conveniently ignore the draft. If men are able to be drafted for war, but women are not, then either women need to be able to be drafted, or feminists need to advocate for the abolition of the draft. You can be open to looking for positives all you want, but the majority of …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 12:05 PM
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I disagree, she just sounds pretentious with the whole “I don’t owe you conversation.” Like, it’s Reddit for crying out loud. She didn’t have to reply at all, and nobody cares about getting her “time, effort, and frustration” but she thinks everyone does because she is a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 11:55 AM
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I never said anything about random men on the street catcalling. But I get where you’re coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:31 PM
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I don’t support that, I’m just saying it’s not really the majority of males fault that their rates of violent assault and whatnot are so high compared to women. But yea I agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:16 PM
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You can have a ton of guys interested in you and most are shit, but there’s a good chance there’s some that aren’t bad. At least you have the option to be able to do that when a lot of men have no social life or any women interested in them for long periods of time. People can be validated in many ways, but I mean in regards to relationships and intimacy, or even being able to have those things, it is much, much easier for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:14 PM
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Depends on the guy, but I appreciate whenever someone gives me a compliment just because they went out of their way to tell me and they could’ve just kept it to themselves. Like my friends will sometimes hype me up in video games and compliment me on how I’m playing, and that definitely makes me feel good. I get where you’re coming from on the compliments seen as flirting thing though because that seems to be a pretty big issue
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:00 PM
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I think you meant to reply to the other guy, but you’re vastly overestimating how much attention guys who aren’t in the top ~20% of men get.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:57 PM
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Sounds easier when you have plenty of options to choose from at all times
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:53 PM
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But still more likely to be the victim. I’m a male and I didn’t contribute to any of the violent assault by other men. Not downplaying the sexual assault issue, but just because we are male does not mean that we contribute to the issue. Men are more likely to be homeless, divorce raped, killed in war, the list goes on. But because we’re men we probably deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:51 PM
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A lot of guys are lonely. They want to be reassured, by the gender they are attracted to, that they have at least some worth in their eyes. For women, they don’t need that since they have that validation already with dudes throwing themselves at them. Compliments can be associated with intimacy which relationships are all about. Imo it isn’t about anything sexual for most guys, we are often the biggest critics of ourselves and don’t voice these things to anyone. We don’t get nearly as much valid…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:46 PM
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This is the same as some men thinking that a compliment from a woman is flirting. Just because you got a compliment doesn’t mean he wants to fuck you. It could, but just assuming so every time will continue to make you not “feel good.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:39 PM
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Is this satire? It’s because straight men are into women. If the answer wasn’t already obvious enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:34 AM
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Women are 😉 slaves to 😉 men 😂 it’s so entertaining 😂 screw women they are all I think about 😉😂 This is what you sound like
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:12 AM
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Acting this conceited isn’t helping anyone take your side, you’re just coming off as toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:06 AM
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Wow you are projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:02 AM
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No, you just need to be attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 08:52 AM
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You say it as if there are no women that care for muscular men. Being in shape is typically attractive, no? If you stopped focusing so much on men, which shouldn’t be hard because you clearly have a disdain for most, then you probably would have to come to this sub to complain and boost your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:10 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/q3by7h/most_men_dont_actually_find_most_women_attractive/hfr4wgy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:03 PM
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Woman moment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 08:45 PM
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I agree with the women’s standards part. I’m not sure where the person you replied to is from if the average women’s standards are “pretty low as it is.”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 06:54 PM
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There’s a difference in being a snowflake and in pointing out logical fallacies in your statement
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 01:35 PM
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You’re literally putting men down and just insulting men, but the second he says that not all women are angels you attack him. So hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 11:06 AM
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The 99% trash is based on both how attractive you are and you standards. If you’re looking for people who are your own standards, then yes I think it is extremely easy to find a partner as a woman. You’re comparing being able to sift through tons of options to not knowing if you’ll even ever find someone. I’m sorry about what has happened to you, but you’re probably better off vetting the men in a place where they could not rape or sexually assault you. Get to know them and if you’re comfortable…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 04:57 AM
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Yes, it’s a luxury to not have to worry about finding a partner and to be able to have so many choices. Men can be harmed too. Nobody said you are having the time of your life, but yes it is a luxury, or at the very least a privilege to be able to have such an easy time finding partners. Especially when men are the ones who are expected to approach the woman, pay for meals, and guide the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 04:44 AM
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But why go to the porn shop to masturbate when you could just do it from the privacy of your home?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 11:44 PM
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Well, if they’re sleeping with you I wouldn’t expect them to sit there and nitpick your body. Hormones as well play a part as they may feel less attracted once post nut clarity sets in
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 08:01 AM
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It depends how attractive the guy is considering a guy with access to 7s and 8s won’t care about getting with a 4. At the end of the day there will always be someone more attractive than either person in the relationship, I think it impacts men more though because they are the ones who usually have to lower their standards where women can get with men out of their league much easier. I don’t really see how this is an exclusively female issue tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:56 AM
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Either could, but not like it’s an issue for women considering they typically get with guys leagues above them while guys have to settle for less. Plus a guys hormones may make him think he is attracted to a girl who is less attractive, but once post nut clarity hits he will likely regret his decision
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:41 AM
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True, they fuck chad over and over again but complain they can’t find a man when he won’t commit to her since she’s not the only one he’s sleeping with and bc he’s out of her league
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:20 AM
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Of course those needs don’t vanish, but someone who has never had those needs met will probably desire them more so than someone who has previously imo
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:09 AM
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I’m not, I’m basically just saying that if you’ve never experienced it, or have experienced a limited amount of it, then you are more likely to want it, and because it is easier for women to get relationships and casual sex then they are likely less interested in those things since they have experienced them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:40 AM
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I am, it’s easier for women in general to have causal sex and whatever else comes with it, but for many men it feels impossible and it leads to touch starvation, loneliness, a feeling that you’re missing out on the prime years of your life in regards to relationships, and a feeling that you are not good enough for someone else. A lot of women take casual sex and relationships for granted because they are so easy to obtain, but for a guy that’s never been in a relationship it’s easy to fall into …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:16 AM
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There’s dozens of them!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:11 PM
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Biology tells us to. People get touch starved and lonely. You act as if there are no women who actually want to date men that aren’t being brainwashed by “society.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 07:36 PM
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Entitled to having a relationship? I wouldn’t want to enter one unless the other party expressed they wanted to and were really in to me. I don’t think men are entitled to relationships I just think a lot of us are probably lonely because girls would rather chase after chad who has ran through their friend group nine times and try to lock them down for a relationship but just getting used in the end. It goes back to the whole 80% of women going for the top 20% men, people will get left out and p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 07:31 PM
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So you all wait for your turn with the chads in the group while they fuck your friends. Just kind of creepy, everyone of you fucking the same dudes, I don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:20 PM
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I can’t imagine not being able to track the number of people I have slept with but to each their own
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:16 PM
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You and your friends getting straight passed along and shared sorry. That’s just weird. Do you talk to your friends about it and compare it to how their time was with the same dude? Bc you say you aren’t sharing but that’s the definition of sharing lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:10 PM
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You can’t just generalize an entire gender saying they all want one thing. I would rather have a healthy relationship where we put in the same amount of effort than whatever human fleshlight stuff youre talking about. You have to realize it isn’t as black and white as you think and that different people, male and female, have different preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 08:32 PM
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I don’t take virgin as an insult really as a man. But it’s to each their own opinion, I guess the longer you are sexless and the more you want it, the more it becomes an insult if it is put in that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 08:01 PM
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This has the same energy as blaming slavery on the people alive today
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 07:48 PM
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Of course you don’t “deserve” one, but I’m just saying it’s much harder for men to find a relationship or intimacy which leads to loneliness and depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 02:09 PM
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Again I think it varies, but guys that think like that are just asshats. If you’ve had repeated experiences like that though then I get why you would see this how you do. But just know it’s not all guys, same as not all girls could be generalized for something similar I’m sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 03:02 AM
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As I said, there will be bad people in the world but that doesn’t make everyone a bad person. You don’t see 100% of people going around and breaking every law, same as not every man is not as bad as you make us out to be. Is it impossible to have empathy for one group of people, but also acknowledge the wrongdoings of another group of people? Obviously not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 02:39 AM
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I hope you don’t see the world like this. It’s like saying all the murders in the world makes everyone in the world a bad person. It doesn’t, but it also doesn’t mean there aren’t bad people out there still. Hope you can see what I see. I can’t tell if you’re trolling/messing with me honestly but it doesn’t invalidate my experiences. I don’t need your sympathy, but it doesn’t hurt to be a nice person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 12:50 AM
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I’m not sure how accurate your statement about half of men getting laid often is, but I can guarantee that women on average are much, much less lonely than men and have much more leeway when it comes to dating and picking partners, whilst many men feel they aren’t good enough for any females or feel as if they will be alone forever. I don’t think that men who are getting laid often feel left out. I think it’s men who see these women constantly choosing the same guys, whether it be in the workpla…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 11:56 PM
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Why so
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 11:14 PM
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Lol what? That’s a very generalizing statement, and you are clearly missing the point. You have the luxury of being able to find someone to either have a relationship with or fuck extremely quick, while many men feel they will be alone their entire lives. It’s clearly some shit dudes you are talking to, but at least you have the ability to go out and search for a partner and be met with multiple men to choose from. A ton of men can’t even remember the last compliment they got from a girl, much l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 11:08 PM
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Well she’s definitely more attractive to me, so I would say she is more beautiful in my opinion. But everyone has their preferences and whatnot, so it could definitely just be that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:53 AM
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Looking at pictures of Adriana Lima, I would say Scarlett Johansson is more attractive but to each their own
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 01:32 AM
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I guess I’m just insecure about it because I had one experience where I kissed a girl and it was pretty obvious it wasn’t great and then they stopped seeing me after. Regardless of if it was related to that, I think it has made me overthink my inexperience, but thank you for your comment. It helped my perspective on this whole thing. I guess it’s hard to be patient to wait for the right person. I’ve just never applied myself very much in getting girls I don’t think, and I worry that if I do some…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 06:37 AM
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Thanks for this, I don’t think people talk about the experience part enough. I’m near my 20s without really much experience with females and it’s honestly embarrassing. Sure I’m still young and I have time, but there have been no signs of my loneliness stopping, and the lack of experience only compounds the possibility that I won’t find someone. I don’t know, maybe I’m just being pessimistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 02:50 AM
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I feel like I definitely regret having no experience. Sure if I have a partner in the future they may not care, but odds are anyone I find will have plenty of experience. Like I don’t even know how to kiss someone properly. It’s embarrassing to an extent, sure, but I would still rather find someone and overcome this. I guess my love language would be physical touch because I just crave thing like cuddling and physical touch w females (who I am attracted to). That makes it especially hard for me …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:30 AM
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I’m in a similar boat as the guy who is 20. Similar age, never relationship with a girl or done anything really with a girl. At some point you just feel like you aren’t ever going to be good enough for a girl and feel as if you are missing out. It gets really lonely and I wouldn’t consider it lucky by any means. If anything it feels like I’ve failed at this whole thing and that I’ll never be good enough for someone. I know that’s probably not true, but there are people who never meet anyone and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:11 AM
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Lucky why? Just curious
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:02 AM
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Yea but I didn’t know if that meant completely or if it meant limit the amount but still keep them in touch. Because if it’s the latter my point stands, even if it is less contact
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 07:26 AM
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I would understand the jealousy if you have continued contact with these other guys while they aren’t talking to any other girls. It makes them feel temporary and as if you will leave once you find someone better
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:04 PM
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I mean or at some point you just tell her you like her and ask how she feels about you. That way you can avoid the squad car part. And consent as well. If you’re leaving in a squad car it’s probably something you did wrong lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 04:40 PM
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It definitely goes both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 04:36 PM
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I mean it shouldn’t be hard to keep a number in your head of how many people you have slept with, and a higher N count could mean higher promiscuity and that they’re just easy. It can say a lot about their character imo. I also think that someone with a low number could just struggle with getting any partners/hookups, so that is also a factor, however of course it could just be them being conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 06:04 PM
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Curious, what has it done?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 04:45 AM
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I mean females have plenty of options. I think they’d just choose someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 09:19 PM
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It disproportionately affects them because more of them use it. That’s their fault
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 11:54 PM
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