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| 60 | MensLib shut down this topic, but I think good discussion was going on, feel free to continue here. | Honokeman | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/07/20 02:52 AM | |
| 11 | The Dose Makes the Poison (or, how toxic masculinity can be transformed into a useful concept) | Honokeman | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/05/20 09:05 PM | |
| 2 | Asking for parental leave at work | Marriage/Children | Honokeman | /r/MensRights | 16/01/19 02:07 AM |
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| 0 | Issue Number One: Male Infant CircumcisionYou do know they use anesthetic, right? They didn't always, based on wrong assumptions about how infants feel pain, but standard procedure now includes anesthesia. | /r/MensRights | 27/04/22 08:23 PM |
| 2 | Would you guys appreciate an Opposite World? Included the female privilege checklistYep, the female orgasm never appears in porn. No siree, no female orgasms in porn. But if anyone has any counter examples to prove me wrong, feel free to share them. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/21 12:24 AM |
| 9 | Do you think the undersexualization of men is a barrier in the conversation about the oversexualization of women?It's also self amplifying in that a guy receives little attention, and thinks "this sucks, other people probably want compliments, too. I'm going to compliment women more!" Which leads to women getting an excess of attention, and thinking "this sucks, other people probably want less attention paid to physical features. I'm going to compliment men less!" Ad infinitum. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/03/21 09:01 AM |
| 14 | The guardian tells men how to make women feel safe"White people tell black people how to make them feel safe" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/03/21 08:40 AM |
| 4 | Does anyone here have an academic background who would like to take a shot at revising Mary Koss' wikipedia article?The WERS recording would probably work. That soundcloud appears to be an official WERS recording, and they probably qualify as a reputable source. According to their web page, "You Are Here" is an AP-award-winning program. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/21 01:53 PM |
| 6 | Does anyone here have an academic background who would like to take a shot at revising Mary Koss' wikipedia article?The problem isn't academic background. The problem is 'verifiability'. Koss's rape apologia would need to be discussed in a reputable second-hand source. You need to find a (reputable) news source that says she made the quote. If the only place you've seen this reported is AVFM, that's not going to cut it. The Koss quote in question was made during an interview, right? If you find that source, that would work. What we would need is someone to write an article ("Uncomfortable Truths about Feminis… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/21 11:45 AM |
| 3 | Does Feminism support male issues?Feminism is much too broad a term to give a useful answer to your question. It's like asking "Do Christians support gay marriage? Transubstantiation? Women in the clergy?" There are schools of Christian thought that fall on contradictory sides of these, and many other, issues, but they all can legitimately be called Christian. Someone telling you "I'm a Christian," tells you very little about their beliefs and goals. Likewise, if someone says "I'm a feminist," there is very little you can gleam … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/02/21 03:43 PM |
| 13 | Never forget that the NOW has a proven track record of actively opposing shared parenting and demonising fathers' rights groups.How dare father's prefer to support their children in person rather than monetarily from afar. The nerve! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/21 02:38 PM |
| 3 | AbortionI see abortion like any other invasive medical procedure, for example, open heart surgery. Ideally, you don't need one, and we should be giving people all the information they need to avoid needing one. If you're in a situation where you might need one, you should discuss with your doctor the possible risks and benefits, as well as possible alternatives, so that you can make the right choice for you. So yeah, I'd say I'm pro-choice. I don't think I would ever get an abortion (I mean, I'm a guy, … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/12/20 09:35 PM |
| 6 | AbortionThe earliest pre-term birth to have survived is 21 weeks, 4 days. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/12/20 09:25 PM |
| 22 | seriously how there is no laws to protect men for FAKE rape accusations ?More than the chilling effect, just like proving a rape is difficult, so is disproving one. Just because someone files a rape change that doesn't result in a convection doesn't mean that person is guilty of filing a false claim. Just because you cannot prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a rape did happen doesn't mean you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a rape didn't happen (and that the accuser knew that they were filing a false claim). Good luck finding a lawyer to take that case. Yo… | /r/MensRights | 26/11/20 12:48 AM |
| 1 | When did not wanting to wear female clothing become toxic masculinity?There is the slightest hint of truth to what your sister is saying, but that truth makes her statement 100x more shameful. Not wanting to wear a skirt isn't toxic masculinity anymore than not wanting to wear any other specific clothing item. It could be interpreted to be toxic masculinity if you think you're not allowed to wear a skirt because you're a guy. BUT! What this means is that her movement is proposing to kill men who are victims. In the toxic masculinity paradigm it would be equivalent… | /r/MensRights | 13/10/20 10:15 PM |
| 4 | I'm confused by this threadI think a good way to put it is that MensLib is a safe space for certain groups of men. And that's ok. I have no objections to the existence of safe spaces, as long as people understand that the world at large is not a safe space, and that established communities are not forced to become safe spaces. However, by being a safe space for certain groups of men, MensLib is, almost by necessity, not a safe space for men as a whole, or rather, for men as men. If someone has an issue as a gay man, or a … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/10/20 02:34 AM |
| 6 | I'm confused by this threadI've had this discussion with an ML mod before. They have a policy of heavy moderation to make a welcoming environment for marginalized people. Which I get, and I'm glad places like that exist. But I'm also glad that it's not the only place that exists. I think their moderation is overly restrictive. I think they sometimes misidentify marginalized groups, and even when they have correctly identified marginalized groups they seem to think there is only one correct way to help them and any other w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/10/20 08:56 PM |
| 7 | Starting a new men's movement to address several issues that aren't being tackled currentlyIt's cool if you want a specific sub to discuss specific issues, but I'd encourage crossposting or reposting here, too. I think you'll get positive engagement. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/08/20 12:05 PM |
| 12 | "Achievement isn't why more men are majoring in physics, engineering and computer science"There is a matter of socialization in childhood. More boys play with Legos than girls => more boys go into STEM than girls. Another factor that I've heard, but haven't confirmed, is that when girls have a high aptitude in quantitative reasoning (like math or science), they tend to also have a high aptitude in linguistic skills. That tends to lead them to law and medicine more than engineering or pure science. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/08/20 11:46 PM |
| 2 | So true and why is it that way?Yes, in effect if not in fact. There are multiple issues, all interwoven, so it would be inappropriate to point to one thing. I do think that, on average, men have a higher libido than women, but I think this difference is smaller than people think. We also need to consider that women tend to have higher standards. Men see women's attractiveness approximately on a bell curve, while womens view of men's attractiveness is much more skewed, so even if men and women had equal libidos, we would still… | /r/MensRights | 30/07/20 09:40 PM |
| 8 | So true and why is it that way?Maybe, but the assumption is usually that a woman doesn't want a man, not that she can't get one. But you make a good point, that these assumptions could be interpreted differently because they have little backing. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/20 05:50 PM |
| 98 | So true and why is it that way?There is a social explaination (note not a justification, just an explaination) There is an imbalance in sexual desire, there are more men that want to have sex than women that want to have sex with them. An oversimplification, but sufficient for now. Given this, if a woman is using a sex toy it is assumed she's using it by choice, that should could be having sex with a man if she wanted to, she's just choosing not to. She is asserting her autonomy, an admirable trait. But if a man is using a se… | /r/MensRights | 30/07/20 04:52 PM |
| 7 | Waaaaaaaaaaah. For the College-Educated, There Is a Man Deficit in the U.S. 🤧😥😢😭😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣I would be curious to see the breakdown amongst degrees. I'd believe that women with engineering or hard science degrees have little challenge woo-ing a man of their choice. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 24/07/20 03:08 PM |
| 1 | So about AOC being called a bitch...if women can call me a dick, prick, asshole, etc, why is it "sexist" or "misgogynistic" to use to the word bitch?Point of order: asshole is a gender neutral insult. I recommend it for all of your insulting needs. I think it's an Eleanor Roosevelt quote, "Don't call a woman a bitch, call her an asshole. You get the same point across without being sexist." But to your point, yes, 'dick' and 'prick' should not be used as insults. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/20 12:08 PM |
| 2 | Tradional masculinity is exactly what is attractive to women and I feel so dumb because of it.I would call vindictiveness a good outcome. It's a litmus test: if they treat you derisively just for asking if they want to make out (in or near the proper context, of course) they're not someone you want to be with. Bullet dodged! And, yeah, physical escalation is a tricky thing. People have different comfort levels, and that's hard to navigate. I guess the point I was trying to get at was communication: I was bad at it, and then got frustrated no one could read my mind and interprete my emoti… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/07/20 06:07 PM |
| 12 | Tradional masculinity is exactly what is attractive to women and I feel so dumb because of it.If I could tell younger me one thing, it would be to learn and use this question: "want to make out?" I spent a long time hiding my more physical urges, hoping that an emotional connection would give way to a physical one. I was so worried about being pushy, being rapey, that I tried my darndest to hide physical attraction. In hindsight, it's obvious why this didn't work. If I had just asked, I would have made my desires clear in a non-intrusive way. Best case, they reciprocate and we get our ma… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/07/20 05:56 PM |
| 2 | [long post] A response to the suggestion of "Abolish Gender Roles" that is often repeated in Vaush/menslib type areas.But they do not need to succumb to said pressure, and we can do what we can to not activity add to said pressure, and we can tell people that it's ok to not respond to that pressure. The fact the the pressure exists is not a problem. The issue is that we should not be actively adding to or enforcing that pressure. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/07/20 04:37 AM |
| 2 | [long post] A response to the suggestion of "Abolish Gender Roles" that is often repeated in Vaush/menslib type areas.I could see this being the case in a primitive society, but when it comes to gender roles I think we have surpassed biology. Our society is such that the division of labor is not and does not need to be divided on gendered lines. Through sociological and technological advancement we have made gender roles obsolete. What is ideal for men is now also ideal for women, and there are ideals for both men and women that we should recognize as my longer necessary. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/07/20 03:37 AM |
| 1 | [long post] A response to the suggestion of "Abolish Gender Roles" that is often repeated in Vaush/menslib type areas.Yes, they can be separated. Let's take your pants example. It's normal for men to wear pants, and not dresses. But, just because it's not normal for men to wear dresses doesn't mean they're not allowed to wear dresses, and we shouldn't socially penalize them for wearing dresses. The norm (men wear pants, not dresses) is separate from the expectation (men MUST wear pants and not dresses). Maybe expectation is not the best word. Let's try 'rule', which has the added benefit of sounding kind of lik… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/07/20 03:29 AM |
| 1 | [long post] A response to the suggestion of "Abolish Gender Roles" that is often repeated in Vaush/menslib type areas.The norm doesn't need to be abolished, just the expectation. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/07/20 01:04 AM |
| 2 | [long post] A response to the suggestion of "Abolish Gender Roles" that is often repeated in Vaush/menslib type areas.Yes, but now we're talking about people, not men. We're not talking about gender roles, just human roles. You seem to be saying that gender roles are inevitable and good. I'm saying that what gender roles that are worth keeping are worth having regardless of gender, making them not gender roles. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/07/20 12:54 AM |
| 2 | [long post] A response to the suggestion of "Abolish Gender Roles" that is often repeated in Vaush/menslib type areas.Ok, then let's phrase it more usefully: "People shouldn't actively force other people to adhere to gender stereotypes, and people should strive to avoid unintentionally holding people to gender stereotypes." Yes, there will be pressure to act certain ways and do certain things. But when these this have become obsolete in modern society we should not enforce them consciously. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/07/20 12:51 AM |
| 1 | [long post] A response to the suggestion of "Abolish Gender Roles" that is often repeated in Vaush/menslib type areas.No, I'm saying A) if strength is pursued to an extreme it's harmful And B) in moderation, it is equally good for men and women. And C) not being strong doesn't make someone less of a man | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/07/20 12:43 AM |
| 3 | [long post] A response to the suggestion of "Abolish Gender Roles" that is often repeated in Vaush/menslib type areas.You are right that there are biological and historical reasons why gender roles exist, but that is not cause for us to enforce them. Just because men trend towards competitiveness doesn't mean that all men must be competitive. If a man wants to be competitive, that's fine. But he shouldn't be forced into competitiveness by society because of his gender. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/07/20 06:16 PM |
| 4 | [long post] A response to the suggestion of "Abolish Gender Roles" that is often repeated in Vaush/menslib type areas."Falling short of ideals is hurtful, therefore we shouldn't have ideals." I think this is a misrepresentation. A more accurate depiction would be "some of what we consider to be ideals are not, in fact, ideal. Therefore, we should not be emphasizing those ideals," and "what is ideal is ideal regardless of gender." Take your example of physical strength. If someone pursues this ideal over-zealously, they will end up hurting themselves. And what about people for who physical strength is not a prio… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/07/20 06:10 PM |
| 2 | [long post] A response to the suggestion of "Abolish Gender Roles" that is often repeated in Vaush/menslib type areas.Nothing about abolishing gender roles means than everyone needs to live neutral. Men who want to be what we would consider now to be traditionally masculine still can. But if a man doesn't want to be that way, he's not forced into it because of arbitrary norms. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/07/20 05:51 PM |
| 1 | MensLib shut down this topic, but I think good discussion was going on, feel free to continue here.I think you're right that this exceeds the scope of this conversation, but it's interesting and I encourage you to make new post to explore this more throughly. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/07/20 12:53 PM |
| 6 | MensLib shut down this topic, but I think good discussion was going on, feel free to continue here.Anything taken to an extreme is toxic. Consuming too much water will kill you. To your specific examples, strength, aggression, independence, and pride are positive, useful traits in moderation. Likewise, gentleness, affection, prosociality, and humility are negative traits when taken too far. I also think it is unreasonable to expect people, especially casually, to not conflate masculinity with men. We can declare all we want that men should not be bound by the gender roles of masculinity, but … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/07/20 11:10 AM |
| 26 | MensLib shut down this topic, but I think good discussion was going on, feel free to continue here.I liked the discussion going on, but ML mods didn't. To summarize, the speaker seems to think the "toxic masculinity" is not a useful term. I agree. The mere fact that there can be so much disagreement about it's meaning is proof enough for me, especially when I think there are better terms that would be less easily misconstrued. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/07/20 02:56 AM |
| 1 | New Lawsuit Tells of 16-Year-Old Boy Allegedly Forced By County Officials to Take Estrogen as Behavior Control “Medication”"I think it's possible to ethically do experiments with prisoners mostly by just following standard medical research ethics (informed consent, ability to withdraw at any time, etc.)." Access to a lawyer is just an additional requirement that I think would be necessary to ensure the prisoner is truly giving informed consent. | /r/MensRights | 16/07/20 04:12 PM |
| -4 | New Lawsuit Tells of 16-Year-Old Boy Allegedly Forced By County Officials to Take Estrogen as Behavior Control “Medication”I think the power imbalance between a doctor and a patient is only marginally smaller than between a doctor and a patient who happens to be a prisoner. Extra precautions need to be taken, yes, but I don't think allowing prisoners to participate in medical trials should be taken off the table entirely. For example: consider a prisoner with cancer. They happen to fit the profile for someone who could be benefit from an experimental new treatment. I think if the prisoner is able to give informed co… | /r/MensRights | 16/07/20 04:09 PM |
| 2 | New Lawsuit Tells of 16-Year-Old Boy Allegedly Forced By County Officials to Take Estrogen as Behavior Control “Medication”And informed consent, part of standard medical ethics. | /r/MensRights | 16/07/20 04:05 PM |
| 3 | New Lawsuit Tells of 16-Year-Old Boy Allegedly Forced By County Officials to Take Estrogen as Behavior Control “Medication”... that's what I said? | /r/MensRights | 16/07/20 03:41 PM |
| -6 | New Lawsuit Tells of 16-Year-Old Boy Allegedly Forced By County Officials to Take Estrogen as Behavior Control “Medication”I think it's possible to ethically do experiments with prisoners mostly by just following standard medical research ethics (informed consent, ability to withdraw at any time, etc.). I think all you would need to add would be A) the researchers need to be entirely independent of the prison system, and B) the potential research participants are given free access to lawyers specialising in medical law. Still, the power dynamics make this non-ideal, and if minors are involved that would necessitate … | /r/MensRights | 16/07/20 02:57 PM |
| 4 | New Lawsuit Tells of 16-Year-Old Boy Allegedly Forced By County Officials to Take Estrogen as Behavior Control “Medication”I think this article over emphasises the mood disorders. Prisons in general, and especially juvenile detention centers, are biased samples. Kids with mood disorders, especially ODD, are more likely to end up in juvie. ODD has a specific definition in the DSM, it's not an umbrella term that could be applied to anyone. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK519712/table/ch3.t14/ Also, the article doesn't specify what percent are diagnosed with ODD, just that a large percent are diagnosed with mood … | /r/MensRights | 16/07/20 02:06 PM |
| 16 | New Lawsuit Tells of 16-Year-Old Boy Allegedly Forced By County Officials to Take Estrogen as Behavior Control “Medication”That the complaint exists is not in question. The unverified part is whether the complaint is accurate. I'd believe that juvenile detention facilities have a wide berth in deciding medical care for minors in their facilities in their role as legal guardian. However, as written this does not appear to be a standard, best practice treatment, and experimenting on prisoners in general is tricky from a medical ethics standpoint from the power dynamics alone, only magnified if the prisoner is a minor.… | /r/MensRights | 16/07/20 01:55 PM |
| 13 | r/MensRights is a right-wing hate sub – true, or "misandrist"?... I think I missed a step. It looks like you're saying: "Men have problems in a male dominated society, therefore men's rights don't matter." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/07/20 04:56 PM |
| 7 | r/MensRights is a right-wing hate sub – true, or "misandrist"?more sophisticated, more stealth version of a hate group It seems that you came here with your mind already made up about r/mensrights. Are you looking to have your mind changed/view challenged, or just to see if people here agree with you? If you are looking for a more feminist approach to male advocacy, you might enjoy r/menslib. There is sometimes good discussion there, but a) I find the mods there to be over-zealous, and b) I think insisting on being a feminist sub turns away the men who wou… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/07/20 04:47 PM |
| 15 | r/MensRights is a right-wing hate sub – true, or "misandrist"?r/mensrights is... angry. Not hateful, but definitely angry. Not saying they don't have plenty to be angry about, but the sub is (usually) a perfect representation of "I don't want a solution, I want to be mad!" And there is value to venting, to pointing out injustices. But r/MR does that to the exclusion of anything I would consider productive. As for right-wing, I don't think that's an accurate description. It often gets lumped in with right-wing because it takes issue with modern feminism, wh… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/07/20 02:53 PM |
| 2 | Interesting take on strip clubs and healthy relationships from psychologist Shawn T Smith.I have no moral objection to strip clubs, but I do have a financial objection. Tipping is awkward. I'd much rather strip clubs worked like Disney World: flat rate to get in, you still pay for food and drink, but the, uh, "rides" are free. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/05/20 01:08 AM |
| 3 | Why do users here seem to largely concur with popular transgender ideology?I'm confused on what you take issue with. Are you arguing for a genderless society and don't like that trans activists use gendered language? Or are you just pointing out hypocrisy? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/20 04:55 PM |
| 2 | Progress......Few things frustrate me more than self proclaimed feminists using virgin as soon insult. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/05/20 12:45 AM |
| 5 | Well aren't we flexible: NY Times - "Believe All Women" is a right-wing conspiracyI've seen this put similarly with "if someone says 'save the rainforests', you don't respond 'save all forests'". And by itself I agree with that. But if someone did say "save all forests" and was told that meant they hated rainforests, I would doubt the 'too' nature of the rainforest movement. And I think you bring up a good point, that someone championing a cause will see generalizing the issue as being callus towards the specific. I agree. All I'm saying is that to an outside observer it can … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/20 11:36 AM |
| 5 | Well aren't we flexible: NY Times - "Believe All Women" is a right-wing conspiracyAnd how do your expect someone to react if they are called racist for saying "all lives matter"? Even taking into account race relations in America, how is someone supposed to interpret that as anything other than 'only black lives matter'? It is frustrating to me that you bring up white people again. My arguments are independent of race, so if yours are white people specific, it feels like we're talking past each other. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/20 12:34 AM |
| 8 | Well aren't we flexible: NY Times - "Believe All Women" is a right-wing conspiracyA) I have not mentioned white people once. My analysis holds true regardless of the observer, so I would appreciate if you did not base responses on "white ignorance". B) History of a phrase has little bearing on current usage. Regardless of initial intent, "A and Not (A and B)" only resolves one way. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/20 12:16 AM |
| 5 | Well aren't we flexible: NY Times - "Believe All Women" is a right-wing conspiracyI don't see how context changes "A and Not (A and B)" For the record, I believe that BLM has, the vast majority of the time, represented itself as Black Lives Matter, Too. All I'm saying is that Only Black Lives Matter is not an unfounded interpretation. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/20 12:04 AM |
| 10 | Well aren't we flexible: NY Times - "Believe All Women" is a right-wing conspiracyI don't think it takes any mental gymnastics to think "if stating the importance of a general group instead of a subset of that group is evidence of holding animus towards the subset, then only the subset is important." A and Not(A and B) only evaluates true if A is True and B is False. If this is gymnastics then I'm Simone Biles. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/05/20 11:55 PM |
| 10 | Well aren't we flexible: NY Times - "Believe All Women" is a right-wing conspiracyI don't think so. If Alice says "$subset is important" and Bob responds "$set is important", to which Alice responds "you must hate $subset!", it's not unreasonable for Bob, or neutral observer Charlie, to interpret "$subset is important" to mean "ONLY $subset is important." If it meant "$subset matters, too," there would be no conflict with "$set is important". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/05/20 11:39 PM |
| 6 | Hurray for the nice guysI feel like for every article written about nice guys or the friend zone, the author had this exact thought: "What? I male is having feelings other than angry and horny? That can't be right, they must just be angry horny." | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/05/20 11:33 PM |
| 11 | Well aren't we flexible: NY Times - "Believe All Women" is a right-wing conspiracyI think it's less intentionally muddying the waters and more describing practice as opposed to theory. I think an appropriate analog is Black Lives Matter. It's supposed to be interpreted as 'Black Lives Matter, Too', but in practice it often comes across as 'Only Black Lives Matter', even if unintentionally. In theory, 'Believe Women' should be interpreted as 'sexual assault is a thing that happens and claims of such shouldn't be dismissed out of hand'. In practice, it comes across as 'raising … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/05/20 11:24 PM |
| 2 | The Dose Makes the Poison (or, how toxic masculinity can be transformed into a useful concept)I like your alternative terms, especially macho bullshit :) My wife took an OSHA 10 hour course, and one of the things that stood out to her was the various ways and times they said "there's nothing macho about insert unsafe activity here. As to your point 3, similar to how I think anything toxic is just something good or neutral taken too far, I don't think there is anything good that doesn't become bad if taken too an extreme, but if you have a counter example, I'd be interested to hear it. Yo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/05/20 10:14 PM |
| 1 | The Dose Makes the Poison (or, how toxic masculinity can be transformed into a useful concept)That is true, I approached this from an individual behavior mindset, somewhat intentionally steering away from societal influence. I find it disheartening to think of this in terms of "society made me this way" instead of "this is how I have reacted to/internalized societal messaging." While I agree that a large part of what drives people to toxic gendered behavior is societal influence, I don't think it's productive to discuss it as such. Very rarely does society change because of people saying… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/05/20 10:06 PM |
| 5 | Nearly 100 celebrities outspoken against Kavanaugh are now silent on Biden, study findsYeah, but that's Trump's brand. Flying off the handle is on message for him. Biden is trying to run as the adult in the room, I'm guessing it will backfire (and I'm saying this as someone who would prefer Biden to Trump). | /r/MensRights | 13/05/20 03:07 AM |
| 5 | My friend got demoted from his company for getting s*xually harassed. Is this fair?Assuming your friend lives in the USA, that sounds like possible retaliation. I would recommend your friend contact an employment lawyer. The state bar website should be able to point you in the right direction. Regardless of your friend's location, I would recommend that they start looking for other employment. The job market is tough right now, but it's better to look for a job while you already have one. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/20 05:14 PM |
| 8 | Hawaii's feminist department in government (actually real) is proposing a "feminist economic recovery plan" that unsurprisingly discriminates against men and single fathersThe paid parental leave one is an easy fix: give it to both mothers and fathers. The assumption that mothers will take time off work to spend with a newborn is a good one. The problem is assuming fathers won't. | /r/MensRights | 24/04/20 02:38 PM |
| 0 | Guy's kid gets aborted, the lack of empathy is deafening.That baby didn't exist. | /r/MensRights | 29/02/20 12:36 AM |
| 4 | If the pay gap is largely accounted for by women's tendency to choose careers that pay less and take time off work due to pregnancy, and women are the only member in a heterosexual couple that is allowed to determine if a pregnancy goes to term...then why is the pay gap considered the doing of men?This is one of the things that frustrates me the most about workplace """"equality"""". The problem isn't that companies are assuming that women will take time off to spend with their kids. That is the correct assumption. The problem is that companies are assuming that men won't. | /r/MensRights | 26/02/20 02:06 PM |
| -13 | Now women can use special apps to anonymously report “harassment” at work. Men won’t even know who their accuser is. Orwell would be proud.Eh, I'm ok with anonymous reporting. I wouldn't want anyone, man or woman, to not report out of fear of retaliation. Reporting is not the end of the process. It's up to HR to investigate claims. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/20 02:26 PM |
| 5 | It's men's fault that woman can't sleepNot bothering to read the article, but I believe the most recent statistics show women getting more sleep than men, in the US, at least. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/19 11:25 AM |
| 34 | New York: 'Activists' Get Shelter for Homeless Men Axed, Replaced with Women-Only ShelterBecause men on the street are less dangerous than men in a shelter. Because reasons. Yeah, reasons. | /r/MensRights | 01/10/19 10:09 AM |
| 6 | I am a feminist. At least I thought so.Sorry, I did not mean to compare suffering or to imply the women are the cause of men's ills. All I was trying to demonstrate was that the current paradigm clearly doesn't advantage men. Because of this, I think it's odd and misleading to label our paradigm as a patriarchy. | /r/MensRights | 30/09/19 02:03 PM |
| 9 | I am a feminist. At least I thought so.Look at the homeless and prison populations. These are overwhelmingly men. And these populations are much bigger than the populationd of power and leadership. Do we conclude from this that a system exists that disadvantages men? Also, posting suicide stats does more for equality than posting about manspreading. | /r/MensRights | 30/09/19 01:43 PM |
| 1 | Trump to guarantee equal public funding for men's and women's birth control.You're right, but as I said, we're not willing to let babies starve. So, baby food. | /r/MensRights | 08/10/17 02:41 PM |
| -5 | Trump to guarantee equal public funding for men's and women's birth control.Because we're not a society of monsters, we've decided that we're not going to let babies starve, even if their parents are dumbasses. But you know what's a lot cheaper than baby food? Birth control. In an ideal world, yes, women would pay for their own birth control. But it makes fiscal sense to subsidize birth control. That being said, I would like to see a push for male birth control and for the ladies a shift away from pills and towards IUDs. | /r/MensRights | 08/10/17 03:36 AM |
| 2 | Google memo guy Sanity SundayI recommend you read "Hogfather." Aside from being thoroughly entertaining, it makes a great justification for these type of fantasies. To summerize, it's important to teach people simple fantasies early so that later they can believe bigger fantasies, like justice or mercy. | /r/MensRights | 28/08/17 02:48 AM |
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