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No it isnt. Less than 15% of prisoners are kept at for profit prisons. "For profit prisons" are kind of a soft conspiracy theory
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:05 AM
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I responded to your argument. You lied and claimed I didn't. That is dishonest. I'll rephrase it in more explicit terms in case you misunderstood: In the vast majority of cases, it is not true that women left coed spaces and turned them into de facto "mens spaces". Women do not attend ONLY women's-only networking events. There is a general one for everyone, and then a special one for women. I'm actually having trouble coming up with a single space that used to be coed but has become men-only as …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:45 AM
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how do you possibly go through life being this dishonest
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:23 PM
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When women create a "women only" networking event, that does not mean they are no longer attending the "coed" networking events. Downvoted for the disrespectful tone. Not the content.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:23 AM
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Do men get spaces to discuss their issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 06:51 PM
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hiring discrimination against men is significantly more common today than the reverse edit: thank you for the sources, I spoke too soon. I would partially retract what I said and leave it at "its ambiguous, depending on the role and industry"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 06:50 AM
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How does the exclusion of women from the franchise 106 years ago still negatively affect you today? Can you explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 06:49 AM
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I agree, but I think things women-only networking groups in fields where women now outnumber men are unjustifiable discrimination and should be dismantled.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 06:47 AM
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Having a higher sex drive doesn't excuse any actions that come from it. And no, we don't fucking have free will anymore than a tree, an amoeba, or a rock has free will.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:32 AM
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your not a serious person. smaller gametes=lower cost of reproduction=higher sex drive it's basic biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:11 AM
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Anyone who denies that a libido gap exists between the average man and the average woman or denies that it is mostly biological rather than cultural is not a serious person. Men pay for sex. Women don't. Men commit sex crimes. Women don't. Men obviously, in general, want sex more than women do. This is very obvious and predictable from basic biology. Basically every other sex difference is downstream of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:17 AM
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Most "age gap" relationships are a sleazy old rich guy with a sleazy young woman. It's a transparent exchange of wealth for beauty. Usually both parties understand the deal. No one is getting "exploited", but yeah, it's a little slimey and not something to be encouraged. If someone told me they were in a relationship like this I'd think a little less of them, but I wouldn't go freak out and call the police or make their relationship my business. This is different when the person is literally und…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:24 PM
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Men don't care about other men. It's men who push misandry, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:24 AM
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it's similar to people saying "I don't date black people because they're ghetto" yeah it's racist, yeah it's a little bad, no it's not the end of the world, and no one can or should force them or shame them to do otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:21 AM
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so much of this is just blatant virtue signaling. no one fucking cares if you don't find young women attractive bro. I don't. I think age gap relationships are a little weird but I feel no need to feed this crazy neopuritan moral panic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:11 AM
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which posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 05:41 PM
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the only scenario I can possibly imagine this being true is for a divorced woman looking for a man in a similar situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:05 AM
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You're actually insane if you think a messy divorce makes a man MORE attractive. Do you go outside, or just read manosphere theory all day?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:53 AM
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I think a major part of it is just that people are afraid of getting attached to a kid who they could find themselves totally and permanently separated from against their will at any moment through no fault of their own. Which there's nothing you can really do about, that's just the reality of the situation. But it's a major reason to be cautious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:52 AM
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Opposite of my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:18 AM
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women are more interested in making friends in general. lots of men seem to be uninterested in human companionship beyond what's necessary to get their dick wet. and then complain about the "male loneliness epidemic". the number of times I read reddit sob stories from lonely men who seem to take pride in not liking people and then are confused and dumbfounded about why other people don't like them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:17 AM
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Most conservatives are not religious. Trump is the first post-christian president of the US. He does not even pretend to believe in traditional Christian virtues the way Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc did Conservatism is based on racial/economic resentment now, not Christianity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 09:40 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:27 AM
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I plan on ending my life around 40 if I'm unmarried and 75 if I'm married. Being old and alone doesn't really seem like a life worth living.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 04:15 AM
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touch grass. this is not how the real world works. the internet is full of misandry, but the misogyny of the real world puts that to shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 07:25 AM
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Men are generally more selfish and less responsible than women. Exceptions exist but that's the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 07:24 AM
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98% chance I would bail. I would hear her out and maybe look up the case myself, if I thought she actually was legitimately innocent I would be open to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 08:09 AM
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Like any other skill. Read theory, implement/practice it in real life, analyze what you did well and what you did wrong, repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:07 AM
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It's easier to improve your looks. Romantically unsuccessful people should focus on that first.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:05 AM
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Agreed. Contrary to what popular discourse says, looks are actually highly controllable and easy to improve, while personality is largely fixed and unchangeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:03 AM
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Examples: -Men claiming they don't like makeup on women -Men claiming they don't care about women's hair, clothes, or nails -Men claiming that cosmetic surgery is a turn off -Men claiming that their preferences are rational -Men claiming they won't date whole categories of women -Men claiming that dating "games" (running hot and cold, inspiring jealousy, etc) don't work on them -Men claiming that they don't care about a woman's education or career or finances -Men claiming that they are good jud…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:18 AM
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Oh yeah, that podcast is so dumb lol. it's literally a grift all the way down
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:14 AM
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Men consistently report higher self esteem than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:14 AM
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No, I think men are probably less self-aware and have poorer insight into their behavior than women, in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:36 AM
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You are completely correct. Now apply this same logic to what men say. And remember, protecting our ego with lies isn't only about wanting to seem like a "good person" (particularly for men). We also lie to ourselves and then to others to make ourselves seem tough, intelligent, independent, rational, etc. It's not that the red pill is wrong about women, it's that the red pill is wrong about men. Other people who have no need to validate our ego actually can understand our motivations better than…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:30 AM
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Ahhh. I mean, I don't really watch manosphere podcasts. The ones I've seen the women usually seem to express amused contempt towards the interviewers, not spiteful resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:26 AM
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the male ego is the most irrational thing on the planet
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:19 AM
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It's not that your wrong your just taking it way too seriously. The reason the drunk women on these "street interviews" say crazy shit is because they know it's bs just to rile up an audience. But they have fun with it nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:18 AM
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Men have much larger egos than women, are you serious??? The average man thinks he's a genius who could win a streetfight with ease. My understanding is that psychological studies show women have more accurate self-perceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:17 AM
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you guys are actually insane if you pick option a
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:09 AM
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Of course! The "black pill" is actually sort of half right. Looks are incredibly important for men, more important than any other single thing. But looks are not just a genetic "you either are born with it or you arent". Fitness and leanness is HUGE of course but so are hair, skin, clothes, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:31 AM
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A lot of men really can't distinguish between "natural attractiveness" and all the little things women do to increase their attractiveness when they go out. It's crazy how men will swear up and down they don't care about makeup or hair or nails. Its obviously bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:53 AM
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"I wish the women I was attracted to were as into sports as I am!" "Therefore your only attracted to women who aren't into sports, and your lying about wanting a woman who likes sports too!" easy test for red pill rhetoric-- switch the roles of man and woman. does it still ring true?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:16 AM
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You guys invent the most insane shit to be insecure about. It's comical. "Fellas, is it gay to pursue women?" You could literally have a supermodel throwing herself at you and you'd psych yourself out imagining Chad and how she must have thrown herself even harder at him in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 06:27 AM
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It's really interesting how the red pill evolved. In the 2000's, it was for normal, well-socialized but underachieving men to share advice and strategies for dating more successfully. The assumption was that a guy listening to RP advice had a job, had friends, had ~some~ romantic history, etc Then in the 2010's, it gradually morphed into reject weirdo autists sharing bizarre theories that self improvement is futile and they should just give up. The audience is shut in virgins with NO (irl) male …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 06:26 AM
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I dont care. The world has gotten too soft on people with autism. The cold reality is you have a disability on par with blindness or deafness. You speculating about social dynamics is like blind man critiquing paintings. You have no fucking idea what your talking about. Hopelessly unable to comprehend basic things. That's why you believe in stupid red pill ideology. Your opinions are worthless. And everybody who listens to you speculate about this instantly knows that you are totally clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:06 AM
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hotel rooms?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:04 AM
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So? If some random woman "gets creeped out", how does that impact your healthy relationships with other women? If you don't "creep women out", at least occasionally you aren't trying. Or you are lying, or autistic and can't tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:01 PM
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not anymore than rocks are a failed experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 07:59 PM
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The red pill says this but personally I'm sick of always being option 1 and not option 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 07:58 PM
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That is not true. Studies are more mixed on benefits of marriage for women than they are on benefits for men, but its very unlikely that married women are worse off than single women. It's just that they aren't as much better off from marriage than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 07:56 PM
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That is not true. Studies are more mixed on benefits of marriage for women than they are on benefits for men, but its very unlikely that married women are worse off than single women. It's just that they aren't as much better off from marriage than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 07:56 PM
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The postmodern right and their hatred of science and objectivity
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:15 AM
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"The science" says this true, but only for short term relationships and only more attractive to dark triad women. making yourself into a narcissist or psychopath is not a winning mating strategy, let alone a winning life strategy. what's really going on here is envious men devaluing their sexual rivals by claiming they are antisocial assholes. the internet incel troll is just as likely to be dark triad as the douchey frat bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:14 AM
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People marry people like them. Hot rich people date hot rich people Ugly rich people date ugly rich people. Hot poor people date hot poor people. Ugly poor people date ugly poor people. the rare exceptions are hot poor people dating ugly rich people. those relationships are rare and unstable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:08 AM
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the red pill is just depraved girlboss feminism for men. "Don't have a family, don't build community, go get hammered and get fucked by randos instead! That's what a real man does, honorable family men are losers!" I can't emphasize enough how much I hate the new right. The old Christian right was a million times more tolerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:05 AM
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this entire sub is people debating vibes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:02 AM
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The US is EXTREMELY class stratified. There are numerous social circles where everyone makes that much money, and it leads to a kind of myopia about the state of the rest of America.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:50 AM
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because they don't need to. women have it easier in dating because eggs are rarer and more valuable than sperm. that's not fair, but it's also not fair that an average guy could easily beat the shit out of a trained athletic woman in a fistfight. biology doesn't care about people's feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:47 AM
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no you have autism
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:45 AM
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Friends of friends. That's the normal way to meet partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:40 AM
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why do you even care that much if you "creep them out"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:39 AM
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the main problem for most unsuccessful men is they are undersocialized and have a kind of "acquired autism". you shouldn't have to explain to them that women make it pretty clear through nonverbals whether they are open to being approached or not. they never got the 10,000 hours of practice in childhood and adolescence to learn this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:38 AM
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It's not about it "feeling nice", it's about the actual benefits social connections have. Here's an analogy: there are two football players. One really, really, really wants to be the best football player ever. He really cares about the result of every game. When things go wrong, he obsessively studies and practices to do better. The other doesn't really care that much. Sure it's nice to win, but he doesn't depend on it. He's chill either way. Who is going to be a better player in five years? Be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:40 AM
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Maybe your life would be better if you did need constant validation from other people. That's my point. People have a hard time with all this because they're attached to this free will mindset where we consciously choose our desires. No. You can act as you will, but not will what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:46 AM
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Okay? Who cares, social capital is more intrinsically valuable than 90% of "hobbies". Live your life the way you want it, I'm just pointing out that trait extroversion is objectively advantageous in the vast majority of cases. You can cope about it if you want. High IQ is objectively advantageous in the vast majority of cases, and people engage in endless copes on that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:45 AM
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I really think it's just practice... probably only the top 20% of men are as extraverted and social as the average woman. You need hours and hours of social interactions along with the drive to be liked to get good at it. Many people, mostly men, aren't really interested in other people, and this comes across in their persona. And they are SHOCKED to discover that this makes other people not want to be interested in them. So many men who complain here are like "I hate other people and think I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:38 PM
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Yeah... men on average have much worse social skills and are much worse conversationalists. Far more likely to ignore the other person and drone on and on about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:32 PM
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For me personally at least, I don't have any issues dating but I have extreme difficulty making new male friends. I get ghosted by men, not women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:53 AM
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Evolutionary psychology has many insights that directly go against the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:47 AM
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I mean. It was. Not to mention there's no possible physical mechanism in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 07:36 PM
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a huge study recently basically let "professional" astrologers set up their own "experiment" to prove their predictions have validity and all of them failed to predict anything more accurately than randomly guessing would.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 07:33 PM
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it's the female version of the red pill/alpha male/pop evo psych that men like. just a confirmation of their ego-driven beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 07:31 PM
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tf? Why do you write like rupi kaur?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:36 AM
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you can't respond to questions or speak in full sentences instead of dumb haikus. you're a retard, bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:10 AM
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Nah the (actually high IQ) oversystematizing autists are right about everything, as much as we hate to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:56 AM
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Emotional intelligence isn't any more real than "the red pill" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:54 AM
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It's hilarious, pop psychology has done a great job lying to the public about the science. Actual psychology research is not very friendly or feel-good. It tells us that IQ is real, stereotypes are accurate, genes determine a great deal, personality disorders are untreatable, and that so much of our perception is clouded by self-deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:54 AM
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no. they really believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:50 AM
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Sort of a shifting of goalposts thing going on here. People claim words like these are only used metaphorically when in reality a lot of people seem to believe in "vibes" and "auras" as metaphysically real things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:50 AM
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More precisely, I'd say a lot of vulnerable narcissism goes undiagnosed. (Which tends to be more often the pattern in narcissistic females, as opposed to narcissistic males who are usually grandiose). literally a pretty reliable litmus test for narcissism is in conversations who always brings the topic back to themselves, whether to brag about how great they are or to complain about how much of a victim they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:44 AM
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How is that eugenics. And if it is, why is that bad. I'm supposed to be smarter than utilizing a medical procedure to make my life easier?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:37 AM
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It does not neuter you. A vasectomy cuts the tube that adds sperm to the semen. Sperm is less than 2% of semen by volume. It does not remove your balls. It has no effect on testosterone, no effect on sexual function. Literally, all it does is prevent pregnancy. If you are absolutely confident you don't want (bio) children, get it. Otherwise, don't. I don't get what else there is to say on the subject. Also, it's really funny to see a red piller drop the "just claim something is "eugenics" to ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:24 AM
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I genuinely think a large proportion of men erroneously believe that a vasectomy is surgical castration.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:19 AM
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the red pill is basically girlboss feminism for men. it spurns the things conservatives value (family, tradition, nation, etc) and tells men to be radical individualists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:35 AM
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Something like this gets posted like every 3 days here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:47 PM
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Better mentally unstable than fat and out of shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:46 AM
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I guarantee you are dumb as a bag of rocks and have never once seriously considered the world from other people's perspectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:44 AM
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Why are you so obsessed with grammar? Decenter grammar and get a life, it's so pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:43 AM
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Imagine needing a wall of text to tell people "you should live a balanced life." Like no shit. Such a retard. These posts are the definition of room temperature IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:42 AM
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"Stop basing your life around reddit, decenter it and get hobbies" -me, patting myself on the back for being so much smarter and more interesting than you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:41 AM
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Who are you talking to? Of course people come here care about other stuff. Can you name anyone in particular? No? It's like logging on to a canoeing forum and saying "wow you guys are so obsessed with canoeing, you need to decenter canoeing and get hobbies". It's patronizing stupid and derivative Your not smart and above it all. Your a fucking retard.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:41 AM
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It's just a dumb post. A lot of nothing. To the extent it's true it's redundant and unnecessary and to the extent it's profound it's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:38 AM
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"Man is free to act as he wills, but not free to will what he wills." telling people to "just stop" wanting something is pretty dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:58 AM
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Wow man your so cool and impressive and above it all, no one has ever come up with the idea of telling people to "just stop trying lol"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:57 AM
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just because you are financially independent and not looking for a man to "take care of you" does not mean status doesn't play a role in your dating decisions. I assume you'd be unlikely to date a plumber of carpenter? This subreddit always downplays and ignore the class element. "Mixed attractiveness" pairings are way more common than "mixed class background" pairings. The red pill for instance claims that rich upper class men would be eager to settle down with a "low n count traditional" haird…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:49 PM
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hmmm. I guess it's a matter of statistical rather than categorical difference? "Physical attractiveness" can be the single most important thing while still being less than half the total pie. Similar to the relation between IQ and life success. More important than any other single thing, still not as important as other things combined. Maybe I'd call myself dark blue pill. I think black pill becomes more applicable in certain contexts (online dating, young+upper middle class people) and is not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:44 PM
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Short hair on a woman can look great if she's hot, but it doesn't mean it looks better than long hair on the same woman would. A self-absorbed douchebag whose into anime can still be attractive if he's physically hot, but the kind attentive athlete who is also physically hot is way preferable. in fact the second guy just needs to look "above average" to beat the first guy, which 90% of people can do by dieting, working out, getting a haircut, and wearing clothes that fit them well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 12:10 AM
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He might be an asshole to other people, but he's amazing to her. Supernaturally dedicated, obsessed, and self-sacrificing. RP men would deride him as a pathetic simp
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 12:06 AM
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The black pill is usually "if you aren't born genetically perfect, you can never hope to have any kind of positive relationship with a woman". My view is more "looks matter more than any other single thing, for sure but A. Looks are highly controllable and improveable B. Many other things do matter too (being kind, being interesting, being attentive, having money/status etc in combination with maximizing your looks is more than enough) and C. A lot of men just suffer from high standards, they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 12:05 AM
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doed this claim; "Women prioritize looks too, if not quite as much as men" really get aggressive push back in blue pill spaces? Where are these supposed blue pill spaces that claim that women don't care about looks at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 12:02 AM
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Not necessarily. Tall people are more likely to have health problems than short people. Does that mean if you have health problems, people will automatically think you are taller than you are? There's such a thing as negative feedback loops in the world too. People cream themselves for the celebrities who are supposedly "down to earth" and "humble". No one likes the behavior that emerges when people know they are desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:13 AM
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Oh definitely, physical attractiveness matters more than "niceness" by far. What the "red pill" gets confused is cause and effect. People aren't desirable because they're mean and aloof, they're mean and aloof because they're desirable. When everyone is clamoring for your time and attention, you A. Have more bargaining power to exploit people and B. Have to be colder and more standoffish Hot people are made even hotter when they are nice too. Hot and nice>hot and mean>ugly and nice>ugly and mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:06 AM
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your not high intelligence if you seriously can't tell the difference between statistical and categorical claims
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 01:35 AM
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lol hope you aren't planning on receiving any social security
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:46 AM
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nihilist
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:45 AM
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Correct. Norms and rules exist for a reason. The vast majority of people who violate norms are not badass innovative trailblazers, they are scummy lowlife criminals and dropouts. That's the problem with the internet tough guy. "I do as I'm told" guy is actually more impressive and higher status than "I'm a free thinker" 99/100 times. The average man actually thinks he's Napoleon, Albert Einstein, Alexander the Great, and Martin Luther King rolled into one. It's hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:45 AM
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eh. child singular maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:43 AM
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Please stop telling people to support MAGA.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:29 PM
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Could potentially be okay and even charming, depending on how it's worded. 1,2, 3, and 5 are pure psycho. Breakup.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:24 AM
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There's no difference. It's navel gazing narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:20 AM
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Why the fuck would you tell someone to "buy your red cap"? Are you retarded? Do you want to lose? Do you want children stripped of their citizenship, the planet to burn, the social safety net gutted, trans people thrown in concentration camps, women dying of coathanger abortions, and Trump made a dictator? Usually someone telling other people to support MAGA wants those things. I have to assume you do, too. I don't want those things, so as much as you desperately want to radicalize me into a far…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:16 AM
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Our side is full of people who want to lose. Why the fuck else would you spend your time convincing people who disagree with you that they are "actually far right maga supporters". It's insane. Actually insane. We need to be a big tent that has room for everyone. Agree with us on one thing, your in!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:13 AM
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Even aside from Trump, the right has far more delusion, incompetence, and irrationality than the left. The lefts problem is fecklessness in the face of their crazy activists. The right doesn't have anyone anymore who isn't a crazy activist. I'm also of the opinion that January 6th is permanently disqualifying for Trump. And anyone who would excuse or minimize it. He attempted to lead a coup to overthrow the republic. He should have been imprisoned or executed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 01:26 AM
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lmao literally no one on earth is more anti-trump than I am. you can be consistently pro-reality and anti- "alternative facts", surprising I know. also you do realize calling people bigots for disagreeing with you on every little thing doesn't work? The fat rapist retard won, I think we need to re-examine our tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 11:46 PM
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"pansexual" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 11:11 PM
1

Flair checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:04 PM
1

you could do a comedy routine off this. ever considered it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:04 PM
1

That's usually how the early stages of dating go. Don't like it, consider joining an organized religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 07:59 PM
1

does that line work for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:52 AM
8

Or maybe just likes sex? Do you like sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:49 AM
4

Well if she's concerned about slut shaming then she'll make a guy wait. Yes. Idk what point you think we disagree on
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:48 AM
1

I don't agree with TERF's but I respect them. That's the consistent position.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:36 AM
1

do you understand what a "comparison" is?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:35 AM
2

I didn't grow up watching football either. I still don't really either. But I get the appeal. It's fun and exciting and there's way more going on under the surface than guys running into each other. "Not understanding " something is a sign you should learn more about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:30 AM
1

Great point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:29 AM
3

He's just a male pickme. If this was 40,000 BCE and we were out hunting mammoths and you got injured, he would not hesitate to leave you for dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:24 AM
1

I agree. I'm most comfortable around my platonic female friends. The pressure to perform and impress is the least with them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:22 AM
4

LMAO. Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you a male pickme.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:19 AM
9

yes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:18 AM
10

I don't think women are systemically less rational than men. Men are feeling-oriented too, just in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:56 AM
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because she wants to...?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:54 AM
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Bruh what have you ever been around black women? They definitely have their complaints about men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:54 AM
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Most bi women end up dating men. I would much rather be the man dating a bi woman than the lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:51 AM
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Because he's more likely to be desirable in other ways? A hot charismatic rich man probably has other women willing to sleep with him faster. He's far more likely to commit to one of them than he is to the woman he isn't sleeping with. Common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:46 AM
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Withholding sex is a "playing to not lose" strategy. Lowers your odds of getting played by a fuckboy. But a guy with options is probably not going to stick around and wait when other women are having sex with him faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:31 AM
1

I don't disagree. Who does?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:55 PM
1

you could have said this in two sentences. to the extent it's true it's trivial and to the extent is powerful it's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:13 PM
1

oh no won't someone please think of the oxycontin-americans
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 05:56 PM
0

Okay? I agree. Systemic disadvantages don't absolve you of personal responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 05:54 PM
2

It doesnt matter whether it's controllable or not. Life isn't fair. The point is its undesirable. You can't bitch about women being superficial if you are superficial. And your actually insane if you believe that. Absolutely not true. I mean in theory a 400lb woman could probably have "more" casual sex than the average man but she is definitely lower status and definitely has much worse options and choice of partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 05:51 PM
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Whats funny is that teachers literally are biased in grading in favor of girls. https://www.forbes.com/sites/nickmorrison/2022/10/17/teachers-are-hard-wired-to-give-girls-better-grades-study-says/ I think its benevolent sexism/infantalization of women. "You can't fail little Suzy, she'll cry!". Patronizing and hurts both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 08:56 AM
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Patriarchy and racism are NOT the same. Black people are stereotyped as both less competent and less trustworthy than white people. While women are stereotyped as less competent than men, they are NOT stereotyped as less trustworthy. There is literally no measure anywhere or possible contexts where black people do better than white people. That is not the case for men vs women. Men face more violence, incarceration, suicide, drug abuse, homicide, etc. I'm not saying there is no oppression of wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 08:53 AM
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I'm very much radically pro choice but the idea that abortion restrictions are first and foremost an expression of patriarchy rather than religion is just wrong. Religious belief predicts views on abortion FAR better than gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 08:44 AM
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Mencken anticipated Trump a century in advance: "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 08:43 AM
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For the white middle and especially upper middle class, yes, it is just about fully dead. It's still very much alive for the poor, for ethnic minorities, for immigrants, and for the very rich and powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 08:41 AM
1

yes some people are crazy. did you know there are two people in that story?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 08:31 AM
1

Easiest? No, it's bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 08:27 AM
1

Of course. "Drunk people can't consent to sex" is social media acquired autism-brain that no one with 5 minutes of real world experience believes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 08:27 AM
2

Are you approaching ugly 400lb chick's?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 08:25 AM
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happy to sweetheart
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:58 AM
3

That's not up to you. That's up to the woman who decides to date him. Besides, plenty of normal and high achieving men go to clubs from time to time. It's a very normal and even healthy activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 07:03 AM
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I meant long term mating as well. People do meet long term partners in bars and clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:57 AM
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yeah to the extent women actually say that, they're wrong. one of the only correct insights of the red pill is that people (unconsciously) lie about their own motivations repeatedly and egregiously, but for some reason the red pill thinks only women do it and men are rational sigmas who should always be taken at their word.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:56 AM
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They're not trying to get impregnated by random nightclub guy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:50 AM
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Where do you see this. Who says women don't want sex? I've met very few maybe no women who are totally uninterested in sex. Women want to be approached and flirted with and want to date and have sex with men. They just want their boundaries respected and for men to handle rejection like adults and be able to read cues. I think a lot of men are actually disabled or something lmao. Why does this need spelling out
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:50 AM
2

It's mostly not college girls who freak out about frats as supposed rape dens, it's bored 40 something women writing for liberal rags.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:47 AM
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I was in a frat at a progressive liberal arts college. We prided ourselves on not being "one of those frats". In some ways this was true, in some ways it wasn't. There was no homophobia, racism, or misogyny. Pledging and initiation was not physically dangerous. There was more of an academic and service component. There was less (but not no) sexual assault. There was just as much alcohol and drug abuse, it was seriously insane and out of hand. I kind of doubt that there was ~no~ sexual misconduct…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:45 AM
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It's called "getting lucky" for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:42 AM
2

I've never bought a drink for a woman I didn't know
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:42 AM
3

Never seen that happen
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:42 AM
3

Envy!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:41 AM
1

define "fuckboy"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:41 AM
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most guys at night clubs are not fuckboys. think about the evolutionary biology here. keeping yourself safe is important, but it's wasted if you don't reproduce. Men are willing to accept more risk than women for mating opportunities, but women are also willing to accept risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:40 AM
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Women want to be pursued for sex. (Respectfully) this isn't complicated lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:38 AM
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It's not so much that ambitious women are undesirable, it's that men fear that ambitious women won't desire them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 01:09 AM
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Well... I don't fully agree, the evidence is pretty strong that most traits are very heritable and hard to change. But complaining about the cards you were dealt doesn't seem like the best way to use your limited time. There's always someone who got a worse shuffle and someone who got a better shuffle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:23 AM
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The DnD fallacy, that people have a "limited number of points during character creation" and any advantages in one place have to be counter balanced by disadvantages elsewhere. Part of the just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:16 PM
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Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:15 PM
3

You have cause and effect backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:14 PM
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One major thing TRP gets wrong is that sexually successful men A. Hate women and B. End up marrying chaste virgins No, men who are liked by women like women more in return (we like people who like us--one of the most basic findings in psychology) and people end up pairing up with people like them across almost every domain (including promiscuity)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:21 AM
3

Kate Moss was a genius when she said "nothing tastes as good as skinny feels". Words to live by.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 08:47 AM
4

at least 25% and up to 50% of incels would immediately be "cured" by dieting down to 12% bodyfat
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 08:45 AM
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Have you tried being thin.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 08:44 AM
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No. It's lust paired with entitlement and callousness. They don't get off on the fact that the victim doesn't want it, they just don't care either way. It's not deliberate sadism, it's just lazy objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 08:43 AM
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You misunderstand rape. As most people do. Rape isn't something incels do, they're too anxious and inhibited to do it. It's something sexually successful men who grow lazy and entitled do. When you're used to everyone saying "yes", you become emboldened and more likely to ignore and blow past someone saying "no". The average rapist has more consensual sex than the average non rapist. Rapists aren't psychotic depraved men behind bushes or ideological patriarchs, they're average men of a more call…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 08:42 AM
1

Well it's literally true of like 70% of women so
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 08:38 AM
2

She doesn't really look good blonde imo
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 08:36 AM
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poverty probably
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 08:35 AM
0

Lol what? Is Hillary bad because she intervened in Libya or because she WOULDNT intervene in Libya?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:15 AM
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The French pushed for the intervention. The US followed. How was Clinton responsible for Benghazi? Fox news brain rot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:14 AM
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Based! Love Hillary.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:13 AM
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Women need to reject victim feminism. You can't be both the strong independent girl boss and the traumatized victim who needs to be sheltered and coddled from the scary world. Personally, I don't have nearly as much a problem (none at all really) with women using their sexuality to get ahead as I do with women playing the "cry when I'm criticized" card. Do that, and I lose all respect for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:12 AM
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Shit I'm a 25 y/o male and I periodically feel a sort of "baby fever"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:09 AM
1

Fellas, is it gay to satisfy a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:07 AM
1

I agree with your first three paragraphs, I don't think that stuff is "red pill", I think most everyone outside university sociology departments or r/2x chromosomes agrees with that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 07:04 AM
2

8.5
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:51 AM
3

Attraction is heavily affected by a person's self-assesed options and value
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:50 AM
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It's kinda dumb, it's based on the "I'm a uniquely good person" delusion. I dont get mad about the fact that the world is incredibly superficial because I'm honest enough with myself to admit that I'm incredibly superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:49 AM
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The best hobby for making friends and meeting women and getting laid by far is drinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:01 AM
2

didn't just "happen" that way, takes deliberate effort. anyone (with maybe a few exceptions) can do it. it's definitely much harder if your coming from a culture/subculture with worse health practices/information.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:41 PM
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True. That's actually a universally applicable dating tip with significant results
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:22 PM
0

Assuming they live in an industrialized wealthy country and aren't in a religious cult, they are either disabled or have never tried
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:00 PM
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LOL. Rp is all vibes, no facts
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:59 PM
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Men believe they are less emotional than women because they just don't define anger as an emotion. Or they think it's so rational and so macho to explode at people for cutting them off in traffic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:57 PM
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Women are children, but so are 99.9% of men (including me, and anyone else commenting on reddit in their spare time, to clarify)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:56 PM
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It's possible to never have a successful relationship/marriage, but never a first date?? No way. Its so easy to get a first date
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:52 PM
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It would get deleted. TwoX sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:50 PM
2

False. Do you know any "chads"? And why does it even matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:49 PM
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fat detected
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:31 PM
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sure, you need enough money to be able to buy a $5 beer once or twice a week. you can't date if you're actually completely destitute. that's usually not what people mean when they claim "money is the most important thing in dating"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:31 PM
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Oh got confused with a different thread, my b
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:29 PM
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Also "face" is largely a function of low body fat. Seriously people don't grasp how much even being a little fat holds them back. You might have a sharp jaw and cheekbones and not even know it. I read as "hot" even though I have a kind of disproportionate and asymmetrical face just because I'm below 12% bf and so have a defined jaw, brow, and cheekbones. If you haven't dieted to 12% bf you can't claim you have an ugly face
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:22 PM
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You need to have like at least two 2 out of 3 of being physically disfigured, having an intellectual disability, and having a social disability to really have no chance of anyone being interested. Most incels aren't incels because they're ugly, they're incels because A. They don't even try B. Their standards are too high or C. Their personality is incredibly unpleasant and offputting
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:19 PM
1

You literally admit you don't ask women out on dates how could you possibly know any of this
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:05 PM
1

I dated women when I was dead broke in my parents basement lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:04 PM
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Not false. You did not demonstrate that there's a hobby better than drinking for getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:04 PM
1

You've been to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:56 PM
1

Have you tried it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:55 PM
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On the internet sure, I agree with you there. Not in real life. Remember that "the discourse" is disproportionately mentally ill shut ins who don't actually know how the world works. It's a huge problem that young men have to learn from that instead of real life friends and mentors.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:31 AM
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Mentally ill women on the internet complain about a lot of things. You aren't supposed to take it all seriously. Just communicate and make an effort and that's enough. Besides, women definitely do not expect to orgasm the first time, especially if it's with some rando they pulled from the bar. Virtually unheard of tbh. Women have sex for reasons other than orgasms. The men women complain about are the ones who don't even try and don't even care. If you communicate, are respectful, and make an ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:27 AM
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that's sad
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:22 AM
3

nah being fat is the worst sin a person can commit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:15 AM
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no, that's objectively a terrible hobby. Just pure consoomerism of the most base and degrading type.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:13 AM
-2

how insecure can you be
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:10 AM
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lmao WHAT 99% of women definitely do NOT expect men to go down on them every time lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:10 AM
1

Why are you complaining on the internet to strangers about your sex life
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:09 AM
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How do you plan on getting dates if you don't ask women out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:08 AM
1

Is this really true. I kind of doubt it. Is every meetup.com thing really just a bunch of autist single men trying to get pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:03 AM
1

You don't need to be chad
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:03 AM
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The single best predictor of mating success is mating effort. No fucking shit. The guys who get laid the most aren't the prettiest guys, it's the guys who care the most and spend the most time trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:03 AM
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Yes. Look good and talk to women. You don't need to look that good or be that charismatic. the bar is so low jesus
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:02 AM
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Are you dense? Because if a guy asks "how do I get laid?", maybe he wants to know how to get laid, not how to "do new productive things", just a fucking thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:01 AM
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beats me. better advice by far is "make yourself look good". I don't get why mainstream dating advice is so afraid to say that. It's literally easier as a man to make yourself look good than to fix your autism (your "personality") or pick up a totally new hobby. Looks are MORE controllable than personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 09:59 AM
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Drinking will get you laid. That's by far the best hobby for meeting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 09:57 AM
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Yeah, but it's a terrible ROI if your goal is to meet women. Spending hours mastering some hobby to impress a girl is a waste of time. Your time is better spent lifting weights/dieting and just you know, TALKING to women Hobbies are great. Do the hobbies your interested in. But don't pick up a hobby purely because the internet told you it'll get you laid
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 09:55 AM
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Where does the "have hobbies" bullshit come from? No one has hobbies. It definitely doesn't get you laid. Neither does "style" really matter. (Beyond clothes that are clean and fit) Here's how to get women: 1. Lift weights. Lose weight. Be shredded. Most important thing by far. 2. Talk to women. Ask them out. Try. 3. Be nice. Don't be too weird. Don't be a misogynist. Or if you are keep that shit to yourself. Just look pleasant and act pleasant and I guarantee you'll have women interested. Maybe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 09:53 AM
1

Do you ask women out?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 09:50 AM
1

They're lying when they say that. You're right. Men don't need gynecologists. And men spend FAR less on clothes than women do. Hell, I probably dress a little better than the average man and virtually everything I wear was either a gift or thrifted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:30 AM
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Makeup, clothes, hair, female healthcare, etc are a lot more expensive than men think. And yes, men do care about those things lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:00 AM
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The weirdest hill RP men die on is the idea that personality doesn't matter to men. Vivacious, confident, passionate women are so much more attractive than timid and reserved women and it absolutely can partly offset physical unattractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:59 AM
1

Lol this is not remotely true. I've slept with women within like two hours of meeting them, don't think that was the case for my grandfathers lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:52 AM
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prob as long as we have a healthy sex life I wouldn't really care. but if it's an escapist thing where she's spurning me to goon alone I prob would.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:49 AM
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So this should be the taxpayers problem? I don't know about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:21 AM
2

If you live in a city it literally doesn't matter at all
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 08:05 AM
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Women are less visual than men but far more visual than a lot of people are willing to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 08:04 AM
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This is true. It's not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:21 AM
3

I don't know about all that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:18 AM
1

An easy and less controversial place to start where you could build a wide coalition on a policy to benefit men would be reversing the legalization of sports betting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:11 AM
0

we found the ultimate leftist here. ensure equality by having maximum misery for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:43 AM
2

The entire libertarian enterprise kind of falls apart when you reject supernaturalism and free will. "We" are patterns of electrochemical activities in our brains. Nothing more. There is environmental influence and there is genetics and that's all. A given sensory input will produce a given motor output 100% of the time. The neuron can't just "decide" not to depolarize. Anyone could be manipulated into a heroin or gambling addiction. There's no such thing as "self control", and allowing business…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:40 AM
0

I wouldn't really ever go to a bar on a "ladys night" or even to a bar that offers one. Feels grimy for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:35 AM
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https://www.richardhanania.com/p/anti-woke-as-autism This relates to your point in the last paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:32 AM
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having a tough time deciding which side to take here because I hate both bar culture and ambulance-chaser lawyers. really tough to choose the most detestable of the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:30 AM
1

I respect that this is your experience but my experience does not back this up at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:57 PM
1

Age and class play a role too I imagine. Older and lower class women might prefer larger/bulkier men than do younger and upper class women (same as for men)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:53 PM
1

I mean if your social skills are atrocious being ripped won't be enough to save you, correct. "Get ripped" is better advice than "fix your personality" because it's actually easier to honestly evaluate and easier to fix your body than your personality. A lot of these incel posters fail because they're spiteful self-absorbed awkward or creepy, but they genuinely don't realize that they are and get offended at the suggestion so it's not very helpful advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:52 PM
1

No shot you look better fat
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:17 AM
1

Amerifat moment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:17 AM
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Yup. Women are very shallow. Only slightly less shallow then men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:17 AM
0

Getting "huge" is male gaze. Getting "ripped" is female gaze. If your a man and you've never been at 12% body fat, you've never hit your potential with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:16 AM
1

The average man is far more selfish than the average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 08:15 AM
0

Instead of women striving to emulate man's selfishness, men should strive to emulate women's compassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 08:15 AM
1

Men and women should both prioritize their children over each other and themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 08:14 AM
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Where do you live? In the progressive urban area I live in prpb 3/4 of the age 22-27 women I go out with split.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 08:12 AM
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The opposite of my experience. The more politically left a woman is the more insistent she is that we split. Probably 3/4 first dates I go on we split the check at her insistence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 08:10 AM
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You're completely right. Classism against working class whites is suddenly made okay if you claim that it's actually "anti white racism"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:23 AM
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As I recall the US and EU decided not to get involved in Syria and the result was the worst refugee crisis in history. If the only geopolitical actors you hold to have any agency are the US/EU, you can literally blame all of the dysfunction in every corner of the world on them. Fun political trick
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:20 AM
2

Yes. "Party girls end up alone" is wishful thinking by the envious. Extraverts tend to have better life outcomes across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:59 AM
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100% of his knowledge about the world comes from "alpha male" youtube shorts
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:04 AM
1

Only possible for someone in the PMC or above who rarely or never drinks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:42 AM
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You'd be wrong, violence in one domain correlates with violence in all domains.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:40 AM
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If both sexes have problems finding "quality matches" then both sexes need to look in a mirror and lower their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:41 AM
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No one actually believes this. It's a consolation prize for losers. https://www.richardhanania.com/p/anti-woke-as-autism
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:20 AM
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Autistic men on the internet don't understand social subtext, so they literally can't see what's blindingly obvious to everyone else: NO ONE believes in "body positivity", EVERYONE prefers thinness. https://www.richardhanania.com/p/anti-woke-as-autism
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:20 AM
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Agree. We need more humility from the prideful, not more pride from the humble. The facts of the matter is that far more people overestimate than underestimate their intelligence, beauty, virtue, importance, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:46 AM
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Where are obese women celebrated?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:45 AM
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Anyone saying they don't is either autistic or lying or both
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:48 AM
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Everyone does.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:47 AM
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Could not agree me. "I don't give a fuck what other people think of me" is a vice, not a virtue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:47 AM
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Men do not actually want you to drop out of school. That's an internet incel thing born out of resentment. PMC or upper class men are not likely to date a woman without a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:46 AM
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It's basically looks x social skills. not much else matters. if your at zero for either quality no amount of the other can make up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 08:44 AM
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I shave my armpits and my chest hair and trim/manage hair in other places too. I just prefer the look and feel of it. I really don't like leg/armpit hair on women but that's just my preference, there's nothing "unhygienic" or objectively wrong about it, and women aren't required to modify their bodies for my aesthetic taste. Not wanting to date/sleep with someone doesn't mean you think their dirty or immoral or evil. Also I understand some women prefer men with a lot of body hair. That's their p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:52 PM
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While it's true that liberal women still largely expect a man to conform to the traditional "masculine" role, they are FAR more forgiving of temporary lapses. A liberal woman is not going to tweak out at you for not opening the door or not covering the check or being afraid of something or whatever, but a conservative woman very much might.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:59 PM
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Especially in light of the discourse that claims conservative women are "traditional" and therefore "feminine", while liberal women are "ambitious/nonconforming" and therefore "masculine". In my experience it's the opposite. Liberal women tend to be normal people with a universal care ethic and genuine compassion for all people. A more easygoing, live-and-let-live attitude that's actually more "feminine". Conservative women, at least in America in 2024, adopt the political rights "oppositional c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:55 PM
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Because they have no other friends
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:15 AM
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In my experience liberal women are far more pleasant to be around. Conservative women tend to be confrontational and judgemental.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:15 AM
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lol women literally did/do this (the "Are we dating the same guy?" FB groups) and RP men HATED it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:01 AM
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How well a man does with women (at least in the early stages of dating) is basically the simple product of how good-looking he is and how bold/confident he is
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 08:57 AM
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Hmmm. Yeah, autistic women learn to mask better because women tend to be more perceptive and exclusionary towards people seen as "off" or "weird"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:52 PM
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People's standards for looks are too high but their standards for behavior are too low.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:37 AM
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I've read that a major reason people find autistic people so offputting isn't that autistic people can't read other people's nonverbals, but because autistic people don't give off the expected nonverbals. This causes them to seem insincere and creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:33 AM
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Promiscuous men love promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:30 AM
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I've heard from female friends that tons of men do actually ask, often very early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:29 AM
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A male model getting matches without a bio doesn't "prove" that bios have no effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:11 AM
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Actually your right this is a valid point (not sarcasm). And its the evolutionary reason why women have lower sex drives
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:05 PM
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Like 90%+ of people with HIV in the population in the US are men who have sex with men. Considering that's less than 5% of the population, the relative risk for hetero women is near zero. HIV is not a serious concern in the US unless you are a gay/bi man, a sex worker, or an IV drug user. The odds of getting it randomly from hetero sex is astronomically low. Different situation in the developing world of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:01 AM
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the answer to this whole problem is that a child should not be a "burden" or "liability". we as a society have a massive interest in ensuring the creation of new people. literally every kid a person has and raises provides hundreds of thousands of dollars in value to everyone else. the parents themselves are punished. the state should massively increase financial and other support for the parents of children
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:43 AM
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Oh I agree the average woman has too high an opinion of herself too, but even on physical attractiveness, men are more delusion about their appearance than women are. Virtually everyone rates their own attractiveness much higher than a group of anonymous strangers do. It's hilarious. There's all those ads about people not knowing their beautiful, but in reality that never happens. In order for someone to self identify as ugly they have to in reality be extraordinarily ugly. I've always hated the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:03 AM
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LMAO have you ever heard of grindr? Gay men fuck total randos all the time. Who uses gloryholes? Also, it's just the opposite of the truth that lesbians are as sexually active as gay men. Lesbians are always complaining about how hard it is to find hookups and the most famous lesbian stereotype is that lesbians immediately jump to commitment and moving in together. ("U haul lesbians") Do you know any gay people? I'm asking because you don't seem to know anything about them. Gay men have more sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:59 AM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:43 PM
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I don't believe in "lived experience" as a valid epistemology for anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:41 PM
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Funny, I don't fuck my female friends so please explain to me what these women I'm sleeping with are because they're definitely not my friends. Maybe this is just a statement about the women you date. Have you considered dating more liberal women who don't believe in enforcing stifling gender roles on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 08:49 AM
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This is so dumb touch grass lol. I deal with some substantial anxiety issues as well as really bad ADHD. If anything it helps me with women because I can make common conversation with them abt mental health, therapy, whatever. Sure, maybe it would be a "turnoff" if my anxiety was so bad I couldn't leave the house or would scream if I saw a spider or some shit but then dating would be the least of my worries. I've never had a woman reject me because I offhand admit that I think about nuclear war …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:49 AM
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If by "crazy", you mean dangerously mentally ill, there are far more crazy men than women. If by "crazy", you mean the standard human irrationalities and neuroses, there are more crazy women than men. This is because only a tiny portion of humans are truly rational, and that tiny group is overwhelmingly men. A story of extremes, as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:34 AM
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Due to the misplaced and harmful activity of anti-psychiatry activists, it's now exceedingly difficult to treat the seriously mentally ill against their will, no matter how much they objectively need it. Mentally ill women are way more likely to be sane and rational enough to realize they need treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:34 AM
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The male ego is the most irrational thing on the planet. 45% of men (compared to 20% of women) self-identify in surveys as "a genius". Women across the board more accurately assess their own abilities. Men always overestimate and overexaggerate. Every male human on the planet seems to believe on some level that he's Julius Caesar, Albert Einstein, and Martin Luther King rolled into one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:27 AM
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It's not the deciding factor. Gay men meet up with strangers for sex all the time, and if anything, it's even more dangerous for them than it is for straight women. (Considering they also have to contend with AIDS, homophobes, hate crimes, being "outed" if they're closeted, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:38 AM
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False. Men are just as wary of strange men as women are. Because the common denominator is male violence, not female vulnerability. (Men assault and kill more men than women) Gay men however, push past this (mostly rational) fear of other men and meet up with strangers all the time because they're just as horny as straight men and much hornier than straight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:35 AM
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This is a statement about the men you choose to spend time with. Not men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:32 PM
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Fat people date fat people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:41 AM
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Theory I might expand on in a full post: people don't actually prefer mean or inconsiderate partners. Mean and inconsiderate behavior is instead a product of a perceived imbalance in value/status. It's a matter of getting cause and effect backwards. The fuckboy doesn't have five women in his orbit because he's aloof and disrespectful. He's aloof and disrespectful because he has five women in his orbit. (I've you've ever been in this position, you know how naturally that kind of behavior comes ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:33 AM
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"Watch what people do, not what they say" is universally true advice for understanding people, both men and women. Men are not any better at faithfully understanding their true intentions than women, and just as likely to provide pre-made socially desirable rationalizations for them. A lot of RP claims about "female nature" are true, they just also apply equally so to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 09:11 PM
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Trying to connect with women is not viewed as harassment. You are freaking out about things that don't happen
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 06:49 PM
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Clubs are pretty bad for meeting women actually. Quieter bars are better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 07:07 AM
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This is false. You are just rationalizing having an anxiety disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 07:05 AM
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This is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 07:03 AM
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Major reason why I'm "blue pill". My life experience just doesn't corroborate the red pill claim that casual sex is harder to get and more desirable for men than relationships. I've had a long string of ONS and situationships that go nowhere despite my best efforts to turn it into a relationship. A lot of women genuinely do just want casual sex and have higher standards for boyfriends than casual sex partners. Which the women here constantly affirm is the case, if only the RP men would listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 07:02 AM
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No. Ever seen wolf of wall street? Rich attractive guys in finance love sex workers. They're probably the biggest consumers of their services. A few hundred or thousand bucks is a much cheaper price to pay to arrange a sexual encounter then a few hours trying to seduce a woman at a bar or party. Plus the sex worker is discreet and leaves afterward with no further demands or complications. "You aren't paying her for the sex, your paying her to leave afterwards".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:50 PM
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Correct, no one who is popular withthe opposite sex believes the opposite sex has poor taste lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:02 AM
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Depends. Why aren't they still together? If he reappeared, am I confident she wouldn't ditch me for him? How do I compare to him in other ways? How is our relationship otherwise? the best sex I ever had was with a girl who I never dated and who I now hold in complete and utter contempt
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:01 AM
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One obviously holy shit. Someone genuinely caring about you and being deeply loyal to you is so much rarer in this world than someone really wanting to fuck you, come on
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:57 AM
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Remember that men are raised from an early age that literally nothing is more important than projecting the attitude that they "don't care what other people think of them" None of the men here are gonna admit the truth here about this. Least of all to themselves. It's crazy how RP men correctly understand that much of what women say is self-deluding ego-protective rationalization but then never consider the possibility that much of the shit they say and believe is the same. Don't listen to what …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:55 AM
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Most of the men here are lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:51 AM
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Who is telling men to stay in abusive marriages. Who.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:50 AM
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yeah there is, it's this: lose weight
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:47 AM
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Men with dark triad traits are more attractive but only for short term relationships and really only to dark triad women. In every other way, dark triad traits are detrimental in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:46 AM
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Empirically false.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:45 AM
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You are correct physical appearance is the single most important thing in making a man attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:45 AM
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Social skills are learnable like anything else. Study, practice, evaluation, repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:42 AM
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The serial killers who aren't great at masking don't succeed in finding many victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:41 AM
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yeah people can tell generally when someone has poor social skills/unaallibrated mannerisms. But no, there's no "womanly intuition" beyond that lol, people are pretty dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:40 AM
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Is this really the case? Do you have any legitimate evidence for this besides "this one abusive guy does well with women"? There's always tons of confounding factors. Abusive men who do well with women do well in spite of being abusive. Not because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:39 AM
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I can give solid universal dating advice for men: Lift weights Talk to women Be nice
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:36 AM
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Norm in history was marriage in the late teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:35 AM
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never underestimate the male ego
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:33 AM
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Holy shit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:31 AM
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Men absolutely do care about other men's opinions of their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:30 AM
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Don't listen to what men say, watch what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 09:26 PM
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I don't think any of this will happen but there's no way for us to know for sure except to wait and see.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:11 AM
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My point is that every other example of large scale social strife (French/Russian revolution, Chinese cultural revolution, civil war, etc) happened in societies where the portion of the population that was fighting age young men was many times larger. It's a great predictor of stability. Seperatist violence in northern Ireland and basque country for instance peaked and declined as the portion of young men in the population did. Not saying it's impossible. But it's an important variable that usua…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:42 AM
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The thing is, we really don't have this problem. Western countries have a very high average age. Men aged 16-30 are at an historic low as a % of the population compared to world history. Which is a significant reason why our countries are so stable and why minor social unrest (BLM/January 6th) is self limiting and doesnt spiral into general revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:27 AM
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Found another one that's dependent on validation from strangers for being some kind of badass whose "so above" needing validation from women. No one cares. Men post this stuff all the time all over social media. It's just virtue signaling. The male equivalent of saying "I dress in revealing clothes for myself, I don't care about men" or whatever that women say for the same purpose. Every healthy heterosexual young person is concerned with how the opposite sex views them. Thats biology. Your not …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 02:50 AM
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dumb cliched advice
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:00 PM
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adopting radical responsibility in dating would help both men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:14 AM
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Most of the men here complaining are just low status men upset at how high status women treat them. Low status women have the exact same experience with high status men, if they bothered to listen
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:12 AM
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Maybe? yeah people will laugh at you sometimes? usually this doesn't really happen unless the guy is super un-attuned or whatever. And as if men don't do this? ever seen how "attractive" men reject unattractive women who approach them? they're generally much harsher and less kind about it than women in the same situation. Just look at how bullying fat women is a passtime for a lot of men. This is coming from my experience in Greek life and at a college bar when my "circles" were ultra mainstream…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:09 AM
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No. Men love sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:52 AM
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2-4 dates to "make something happen"? In my experience, you have literally 1. I got so much better at dating when I realized that sexual tension comes first, "getting to know you" comes second. Like it's dramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:07 AM
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They do because they have more experience because they have more opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:57 AM
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Murder in the US at least is driven by gun and drug proliferation. More aggressively clamping down on both would lower the murder rate substantially.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 07:02 AM
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Upper middle class American, average age of virginity loss was probably ~17
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 07:00 AM
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It's at least 50% and up to 80% looks in every scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:53 AM
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I actually had way more fun (not to mention success) with dating when I fully embraced the masculine "leading" role. You mean I get to pick the activities I enjoy and the schedule most convenient for me and lead the interaction where I want it to go? Splendid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:51 AM
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actually one of the few things I agree with TRP on that women are worse on than men. it's really irritating how even very intelligent, even-handed, independent-minded women will reflexively close ranks and defend "team woman" in every single instance without really considering the facts when in a group of other women. men in a similar situation are somewhat more likely to dissent/consider the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:48 AM
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women posting ragebait on twitter five minutes after getting dumped are not reflective of women generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:45 AM
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Agree with TRP here. Universal paternity testing at birth is a good idea. No man should be made to unknowingly raise a kid that isn't his.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:36 AM
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Exactly! And, generally speaking, women are more compassionate and less selfish than men are. Who commits the vast majority of violence? Who tends to care for the young and old? The red pill "men are wonderful" belief makes even less sense than the "women are wonderful" effect they criticize. They go off about how "cruel" women supposedly are to unattractive men, but in all of my experience women don't bully low status men half as much as other men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:54 AM
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it's not that red pill men are wrong about women per se it's just why do you limit these "reality bombs" only to women and dating? like yeah, people only want to be around you when you provide them a benefit. why is that such a shocking realization? "Unconditional love" is a semi-incoherent concept anyway. Why does this fact bother you so much? Did you actually think some incredibly beautiful woman would throw herself at you and be utterly and irrevocably committed to you no matter what you do? …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:58 AM
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Misandry rules the internet but misogyny rules in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:54 AM
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Every single guy I know who gets laid a lot has a ton of girl friends. But, not every guy with a ton of girl friends gets laid a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:24 AM
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not that the points you made are wrong. they're very much part of it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:33 AM
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old people vote. children don't. (america is in fact a democracy, but its a democracy only for the people who show up to vote in elections. that's old people.) the greatest sacred cow in politics is social security and medicare. the most powerful lobbying group is not lockheed martin or BP or amazon, it's the fucking AARP. (not an exaggeration-- well documented that AARP is the most powerful political lobbying group) we live in a literal gerontocracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:32 AM
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I'm not so much criticizing specific choices specific people make as much as overall social policy. We spend $7 on welfare for seniors for every $1 we spend on welfare for children. I wonder why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 08:55 PM
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Chastity kind of implies virginity. I guess maybe someone could be "more chaste" than someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 08:53 PM
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did you just discover the concept of "socioeconomic status"? also "chastity" is barely of any real status benefit in the contemporary west. Maybe in religious communities, but not in the highest status secular upper class.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:33 AM
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Not at the cost of crushing the birthrates. Besides, the elderly and terminally ill were never meant to live as long as they do. We keep people around way past the point they stop having a good QoL purely out of our own fear of death. The contemporary west is the most thanataphobic culture ever probably
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:55 AM
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No one wants to care for kids because they're too busy caring for the elderly. A sane society would prioritize childcare instead of artificially extending the life of the demented.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:15 PM
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Bulking is dumb unless your competing or on steroids. There's no fitness or aesthetic goal that involves intentionally getting fat
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:47 AM
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it's really dumb advice. better advice for men wanting to date: Look as good as you possibly can Talk to as many girls as you possibly can Know how to gracefully take "no" for an answer
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:27 AM
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yeah basically, that's the level of intellectual rigor of public "discourse" most shit people say is just to signal a political agenda. it's not a rational argument about how the world works
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:41 AM
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The most replicated finding in human mate selection is that people pick partners who are as similar to them as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:41 AM
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I worked as a bartender too and this is definitely not my observation at all. Plenty of women don't get picked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:39 AM
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People fetishize the taboo. Left wingers/blue pillers are into BDSM. Right wingers/red pillers are into non-monogamy. The red pillers obsessed with calling everyone they disagree with a "cuck" and the blue pilled feminists who can't stop talking about how everything is rape are both projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:17 AM
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"Incels" has two different definitions. You have to be specific on what you mean. A specific internet subculture of virulence misogyny and mental illness Someone who doesn't have sex despite wanting to
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:03 AM
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Because they don't know how to present themselves and don't go outside and try enough
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:01 AM
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We're a society actively committing suicide for no reason at all. Future historians will be astounded. We objectively live in the safest, richest, and freest time and place in all of human history by far, and somehow, the general opinion in the air is that everything is going to shit and we should all kill ourselves or maybe try some objectively disastrous political experiment like fascism or communism. I blame for-profit sensationalizing mass media and social media algorithms. People are too du…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:17 PM
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Yikes I hate that the endpoint of political discourse on both sides is coalescing around "you don't owe anyone else anything ever and selfishness and narcissism are virtues" we're doomed
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:34 AM
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Most modern wars have MORE civilian deaths than military deaths. The Ukraine War is actually an aberration in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 09:41 PM
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Really fucking depressing how many people here not only have no sense of collective or civic responsibility but see said absence as a virtue. If you are a man who lives only for sexual/romantic gratification that's incredibly sad. I'm technically not qualified for military service but in the event of a national emergency where they really just needed able bodied young men I have little doubt I would answer the call, although I would be scared shitless. Kind of hard to imagine such a scenario in …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 09:39 PM
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Never underestimate the male ego
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:24 AM
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They're less obsessed with a man's income than any other group of women in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:31 PM
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you definitely know a guy who has committed SA
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:13 AM
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Agreed. The best dating advice is Lose weight Talk to girls (/guys) it's not complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:20 AM
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Elaborate on the study. I'm curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:21 AM
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the appropriation of gay culture by straight women is really weird and kinda inappropriate
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:54 AM
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Liberal women tend to underestimate how many conservative women there are. Gender is not nearly as big a divide in politics as much as race, class, or education
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:49 AM
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People fetishize the taboo. Theres studies that show fetishes correspond to political ideology. Liberals like BDSM (because they love kindness and equality) and conservatives like non-monogamy (because they love "traditional family values") It's really funny how people tell on themselves. Conservative men call all their opponents "cucks" and feminist women freak out about "right wing misogynist" men being into "violent and abusive" sex. They're all just projecting their own shameful desires onto…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:29 AM
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schizo posting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:17 AM
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you have cause and effect backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:27 AM
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Why are you guys letting mentally ill terminally online women live rent free in your head all day long. I've never met an open sex worker of any kind in my day to day life (that I know of) and can't imagine anyone being judged for saying they wouldn't want to date one. In fact someone would be judged FAR more for actually dating one. I'm a young person in a deep blue state. The "normalization of sex work" is an internet thing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:10 AM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 04:33 AM
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even easier. lose weight + talk to girls that's it for 80% of guys
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:00 AM
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empirically your wrong but nice "opinion" man
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:58 AM
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no one owes you sex. everyone owes you respect and kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:53 AM
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Autism (and even ADHD) are serious disabilities that impair every aspect of life and are associated with negative life outcomes across the board. Assuming someone's diagnosis comes from a licensed medical professional and not tiktok, it's not something to trivialize. People with these disorders were not "quirky" in the past, they were "lazy", "criminal", "antisocial" "possessed", etc
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:53 AM
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Yes there is. Most men have no clue how brutal female bullying can get. Men are way more likely to tolerate the "kind of weird" guy than women are to tolerate the "kind of weird" girl. And women also have a way higher drive towards social harmony so being ostracized is so much more painful and the drive to "mask" is much stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:43 AM
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That's just because "bullying" is a thing people mostly do to members of their own sex, because its about reinforcing status. Men bully men and women bully women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:25 AM
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Why is this a women issue? Men bully autistic and other socially "off" men FAR more than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:23 AM
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it's not controversial at all to say people are way too harsh and unforgiving towards people whose only crime is being socially awkward. I don't know how you can't see it. I'm careful to only bully and ostracize people's whose behavior has actually harmed someone (which includes you know sexual harassment) but most people seem to be perfectly happy bullying and ostracizing people just for being weird or ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:21 AM
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This is what the message should be. Just like what the "body positivity movement" message should be. It shouldn't be "you have to find us attractive or your a bigot" it should be "you have to treat us with common human respect and consideration whether or not you find us attractive".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:18 AM
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The prognosis for even "high functioning" people with autism is pretty grim. A majority (according to some study i read, i think it was like 60-70%) can't hold down a full-time job or a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:14 AM
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Thank you. The fact that people expect to be rewarded for being virtuous is so sad. No one is gonna thank you for the doing right thing, but you gotta do it anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:34 AM
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I used to listen to whatifalthist as a "reasonable conservative voice" for the sake of viewpoint diversity in my media consumption but at a certain point he lost his fucking mind too and it's all just "why the incels will rise up and kill the WEF" psychosis. Dude actually seems go thijnk the world is gonna end in the next six months, and his reason why changes every week. hoemath might be even dumber lol, his most popular video is literal pseudopsychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:33 AM
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In the short run, mostly only with other people with dark triad traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:28 AM
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Most sociopaths don't win in the end. They end up broken and alone, or often straight up dead or imprisoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:27 AM
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Some, but not much. Certain types of "bad people" have worse sexual success but other types have better "sexual success". There are lots of ways to be evil and very few ways to be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:27 AM
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Life is brutally unfair
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:28 AM
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Objectively, despite what the red pill claims, men overrate their appearance even moreso than women do. Lots of the guys complaining here are delusional about their "tier"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:26 AM
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Bars and clubs shouldn't be lumped together. Bars are good places to meet women. Clubs not so much. Go somewhere where the music is quieter and you can actually hold a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:23 AM
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Same experience. Literally 80% of being hot is being lean. Thats great news because it's so controllable. But the fats insist it must be something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:14 AM
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Stop fear mongering. From a "false accusation paranoia" perspective, there's literally nothing safer than approaching strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:09 AM
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bleak that you actually believe this
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:02 AM
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How you say it and most importantly of all that you say it matters so much more than what you say. All the guys I've known who have been very successful with women used a line like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:00 AM
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No they dont
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:29 AM
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Incel humor is mad underrated
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:27 AM
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Stop listening to what people say and start watching what they do
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:25 AM
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You really think women don't have to market themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:25 AM
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Yeah some men here seem to be convinced that talking to strangers will get them killed or worse, "cancelled". Like no, actually most people's lives are boring as shit and they're excited to talk to a stranger. At worst maybe someone will be a little rude but assuming your well adjusted and not creepy it's just a reflection of their own issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:24 AM
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I work at a bar. The vast majority of men never approach strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:20 AM
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Cold approach is dumb. Meet women through your friends and social circles like your supposed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:20 AM
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Interestingly, at least in America, dancing is considered to be an expression of masculinity to black men while it's considered to be gay and effeminate to white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:37 PM
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Telling people to take some responsibility for their own suffering and put aside their pride and emulate the successful is so toxic and ignorant
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:35 PM
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Okay? I'm sure I would've wrote the same thing at some point in my teenage years Autism /=/ being sad or being interested in things
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:34 PM
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Better adjusted at least
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:33 PM
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Your conflating one off hand essay he wrote "On Women" with his entire corpus. In actuality, Schopenhauer lived a pretty good life. He was a lover of fine dining and had numerous romantic affairs. He didn't really live out his ascetic ideal at all. Ironically, Nietszche, the philosopher whom pop culture depicts as the say-yes-to-life "chad" was a psycho loner incel who had no friends and was rejected by every women he ever pursued.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:33 PM
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Taking the word "autism" out for a moment, if your point is that "obsessiveness" is a necessary compent of genius, I can agree on that. I just don't agree that any of social awkwardness/isolation, emotional instability, or repetitive and bizarre behaviors/rituals always go along with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:38 AM
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Schopenhauer, in spite of the shit he wrote, lived a pretty conventionally "good" life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:30 AM
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Marie Curie I believe was pretty well adjusted
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:29 AM
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Bertrand Russell? Dude had four wives
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:29 AM
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bro what did you literally just use "german culture is autistic" as an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:28 AM
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Most young men aren't doing either of going out and talking to women or focusing on advancing their career/life because they spend all day scrolling on their phones and playing video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:44 AM
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I don't know too much about the personal lives of these figures but two that come to mind immediately as people who were known to be popular and jovial and socially and romantically successful are Hume and Goethe. I'm sure there are countless others. I also vaguely recall either Schroedinger or Heisenberg fitting this description. Not sure I remember which one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:37 AM
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Agreed. Read my response to the other post about why "finding some hobbies" is bad dating advice
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:02 AM
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Yes, I agree it's extremely beneficial for yourself. But thats not "how do I attract women". When someone asks "how do I attract women" they want the answer to that, not "how do I develop myself as a person". As I said, the most direct and general dating advice I'd offer to a guy is "lose weight" (for like 80% of the population) and "talk to as many girls as you can in as many contexts as possible" also "be normal and nice, make your intent known but respect boundaries, don't try to "be chad" or…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:01 AM
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Not many single hetero men are interested in theater or dance and the ones who are probably don't need to ask reddit for dating advice lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:51 AM
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And the people who are (as in perpetually not a "phase") typically have pretty apparent issues
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:46 AM
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To other fat people. For a lot of people it really is just that their standards are just too high. (Note: I'm not saying "date the abusive guy/girl" I'm saying "date the ugly guy/girl" or "date the broke guy/girl") Dating apps and our modern society more broadly feed this delusion. Everyone always thinks something better is just around the corner Contrary to popular culture that tells everyone they have "imposter syndrome" and that "actually they're beautiful" the vast majority of people are stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:15 AM
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Yeah, I don't think we disagree much
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:09 AM
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you're disposable to all random strangers. we live in a sociey bro. If anything women are more compassionate towards downtrodden and unlucky men than other men are. people (including dating partners) want something from you and don't just care about you out of the goodness of their heart. if you can't provide it they'll eventually walk away and find someone else who can. asking yourself how you can make other people in your life not feel disposable and how you can stop putting yourself in situat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:08 AM
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Dancing comes to mind. But I don't think that's a very popular "hobby" for a single heterosexual man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:59 AM
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What hobbies is a single man realistically going to have that will be of any interest to the average single woman his age.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:58 AM
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that's generally true, but the red pill often asserts that 30 something men are physically more attractive and not just wealthier/more mature than 20 something men. Also women are somewhat less shallow than men but physical attractiveness is still the single most valued thing for both sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:51 AM
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The only person your irreplaceable to is your mother
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:03 AM
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Terrible advice. Most young men want to make friends and meet women. Telling them to defy their instincts and lock themselves in a room and "just grind bro" is going to leave them as an awkward and weird 25 year old trying to relive the youth they never had. Besides, the way you learn "conversation and social skills" is by trying and failing hundreds of times I see guys like this all the time. It's not pretty and their not happy. Enjoy your youth while you have it (within reason)cand don't liste…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:01 AM
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Yeah, it's a bullshit self delusion. Men are in their physical prime at the same age as women. Even when you go from early 20's to late 20's a lot of guys start gaining weight and losing hair. It takes good luck, consistent effort, and a bit of money to actually age "like fine wine"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:57 AM
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The average gap is 2-4 years if I recall right
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:54 AM
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no it wouldn't. you sound like a radfem. writing off as evil half the species would destroy our civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:54 AM
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Men should shut up and learn from women how to have fulfilling friendships. The social support women but not men offer each other is one of the main reasons for all the inequalities people point out here that favor women, especially as people age. You don't even have to be a feminist ir whatever to think this. "Traditional" men in like every culture used to do this, but not today! I'm amazed how many adult men struggle with social reciprocity or other basic social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:52 AM
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I've been in the greek life and bar scenes for awhile and definitely agree. This is supposed to be the epicenter of "hookup culture", but the number of people consistently racking up new partners is always a small minority, like 20% or less even in these spaces. They just naturally draw more attention. Just because hooking up has widespread approval and support doesn't mean everyone is actually doing it themselves. Most people are either in committed relationships or celibate
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:47 AM
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The impact of losing weight on your overall appearance cannot be understated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:42 AM
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Ever heard of the "just world fallacy"? Because we want to believe the world is good, we automatically assume someone with good luck did something good to deserve it, and that people with bad luck must have done something bad. When the concentration camps were liberated a common reaction was to think the inmates must have been horrible criminals to have deserved it. Look at how scornfully we treat the homeless. Or look at the legions of people who venerate Musk for no coherent reason. People are…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:40 AM
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The average guy is not skinny. Being skinny in our world awash in specifically engineered hyperpalatable food available at the press of a few buttons is a real accomplishment, especially past ones teens/early 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:35 AM
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losing weight is the exception that's applicable to almost everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:32 AM
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lol what are you even talking about no one cares if your improving yourself for sex and/or validation, it's the assumption. They might test you to see if your embarrassed or insecure about it and that is off putting but no, actually it's not easy to tell when someone is lying
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:31 AM
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do you know what "probability" is? If I am driving with a seatbelt and slam into a concrete wall at 80mph and die, would you conclude that seatbelts don't work and they aren't worth using?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:29 AM
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Why is "getting some hobbies" always mentioned in the same breath. No one I know actually has hobbies anymore. Almost everyone is a mindless consumer drone. And whatever hobbies they do have are usually solitary/unpopular with the opposite sex. No one is impressed by having hobbies either. Like its good life advice but it shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as "lose weight" and "talk to people" which are by the far two most important for getting your foot in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:27 AM
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You can't change your personality, and certainly not through any wholy self-directed enterprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:06 AM
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In some very limited contexts autism can be an advantage but in the vast majority of instances it's not Theres a big emphasis to play up the "madness" or "neuroticism" of various historical geniuses and I think its generally overexaggerated. Lots of scientists and inventors and artists are fairly normal well adjusted people
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:45 AM
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Theres a hypothesis about this. Called the "imprinted brain". Holds that autism and psychosis are opposite ends of the same spectrum, with extreme systematizing on one end (treating people like objects) and extreme empathizing on the other (treating objects like people). Without empathizing, we'd be unable to form strong social groups. Without systematizing, we'd be unable to spot patterns in nature and develop technology. Autism and schizophrenia are the extreme and pathological manifestations …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:42 AM
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Wow, different people value different things crazy. And yeah, it is elitist and classist. Correct. You can earn as much money as you want, but you still won't have upper class values. Life isn't fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:27 AM
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IQ generally predicts increased earnings but not perfectly, and only up to a certain point. Smart people make a killing in business, the extremely smart write books or do research. The average tenured college professor probably has a higher IQ than the average billionaire. (That doesn't mean the professor could be a billionaire if they wanted, many other skills go into that)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:23 AM
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lying to yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:12 AM
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Education is an (imperfect) proxy for IQ, conscientiousness, and socioeconomic status. People openly value education because it's taboo to openly value those things. it's not true that every person with a degree is smarter than every person without a degree, but it is true that in general, most people with degrees are smarter than most people without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:12 AM
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Would you refuse to date a man who was a legitimate autodidact who read widely and was interested in culture and world affairs and literature and worked in a white collar occupation, solely on the basis he didn't have a degree?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:10 AM
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yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:08 AM
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Same. Not formal education necessarily but curiosity about the world and a belief that knowledge and learning is inherently valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:01 AM
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most of the negative traits the red pill ascribes to women are accurate, it's just they apply even moreso to men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:59 AM
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in romance stories by/for women where the focus is raw passion the guy is still consistently rich as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:58 AM
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envy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:56 AM
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Most people are children with fragile egos who find the idea that there are significant numbers of people who are objectively superior to them across the board emotionally intolerable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:55 AM
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Not necessarily, but typically.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:54 AM
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That is not "most" of what you find at the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:54 AM
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yes this is all factual Evolutionary biology does not cleanly support any single ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:52 AM
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I've never heard anyone in real life say that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:35 AM
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Okay? Exceptions don't disprove a general tendancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:31 AM
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The entire first paragraph contradicts the predictions of evolutionary theory. I'm inclined to think it's our interpretation of the archeological evidence that is wrong, not evolutionary theory. When a hard science and a social science diverge that means the social science is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:34 AM
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I'm not really going to get into the details here but I systematically disagree with that narrative of what life in prehistory was like. Numerous lines of evidence suggest patriarchy, violence, and oppression are as old as we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:32 AM
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I do agree though that it is somewhat amenable to social pressures. Obviously men today are more tolerant of it than men in the past. I'm just pessimistic on it ever "going away" and I think the continued pushback and resistance you see is evidence of that. (And the proof of my previous statement is that the "arguments" men push for aversion to promiscuity are often nonsensical and incoherent, like muttering stuff about "locks and keys". The preference comes first, the rationalizations second)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 11:17 PM
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These aren't conscious rational thoughts. They're imprinted preferences through evolution. People might manufacture rational bases for them after the fact, but the reason they think they prefer one thing to another is not the actual reason. A man in pre history who was more averse to provisioning resources to offspring of a woman he knew to be promiscuous was somewhat less likely to end up provisioning resources to offspring that weren't his. That's all it takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 11:15 PM
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I'm not bemoaning women's (somewhat) greater reluctance to engage in casual sex. OP is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:16 AM
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Complaining about people's preferences rather than their behavior is a waste of time. You don't control the former. I think female "selectivity" is also largely biologically driven and wouldn't change much even if men en masse somehow decided to stop putting negative value on past promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:15 AM
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I'm pretty pessimistic on men ever being able to "lose" this preference given that it's a cultural universal and pretty clearly an adaptation to avoid paternity fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:29 AM
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Poor social skills/potentially autistic or else he isn't as attractive as you are claiming he is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 11:07 PM
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Have you actually talked to women in real life conversations? Or do you just listen to the reflexive internet feminist talking points? I work at a bar. Young heterosexual women go out primarily to meet men. This shit is not complicated. Men and women are way more similar than they are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:33 AM
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Virtually everyone stops going out nearly as often when they settle into a committed relationship, so I'm going to say yes, this is the actual motivation for most people despite what they may outwardly claim or inwardly believe. Yes, there are many exceptions and different situations, but in general the main reason people go out is to find a mate, broadly speaking Don't listen to what people say, watch what they do. People are not consciously lying about their motivations but actually believe th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:26 AM
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there is no perfect way to predict a person's future behavior. no amount of scientific psychology or personal "gut feeling" can do it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 09:19 PM
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"Further analyses indicated that these associations were due to the shared variance among narcissism and extraversion in men and narcissism and physical attractiveness in women, respectively. " Can you read?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 09:17 PM
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Lmao what
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:59 AM
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https://datepsychology.com/is-the-dark-triad-really-attractive-a-review-of-the-literature/ Dark triad men do have more sex partners, but thats mostly because they prefer short term relationships over long term ones, put more effort into mating, and are more likely to use deception or coercion. Dark triad traits might make you more attractive but only in the short run and only to other people with Dark triad personalities. And it's not even clear that this is the case. When nice guys say "women o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:52 AM
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No, most do not. Perhaps a disproportionate number do, bust most do not. Plenty of great mathematicians, scientists, philosophers, etc enjoyed an active and fruitful social life. Most ivy league students (even if you throw out the ones who got in by legacy, donation, affirmative action, or sports) are not awkward nerds, they are polished and put together.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:29 AM
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Blatantly incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:03 AM
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Fair enough. Looks like I am (partially) incorrect on that. Still, it's inarguable that the vast majority of high IQ peopls are neurotypical with no disability or mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:22 AM
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This is not really true. Maybe great scientists but not so much great writers or statesmen. We fixate on geniuses with obvious deficits elsewhere because that doesn't threaten our self-esteem nearly as much. Plenty of geniuses are popular, sociable, good looking, mentally stable, and financially successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:27 PM
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Where's the perspective on age gap relationships that while it's kind of sleazy and almost always transparently superficial and immature on the part of both parties no matter what they may claim that the people who go psycho about it and claim its abuse or grooming need to shut up and let other people live their lives? That's my position. I have the same reaction to seeing a 50 y/o man with a 24 y/o woman as I do when I hear about someone's polyamorous "throuple". I roll my eyes and cringe but d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:01 AM
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My understanding is that one of the major differences between primates/hominids and "lower animals" is that the "alpha males" are no longer the males that are themselves the biggest and strongest but the males most socially adept and able to create a coalition of other males that together command more force than any single one. The alpha isn't the biggest chimp, it's the chimp who has the most friends. (Don't take this as a claim to specific truth-- also please correct me if I'm wrong.)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:19 AM
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Social status is real, but its entirely context dependant. A guy could be the "alpha male" in one room but be an irrelevant loser in another.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:14 AM
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social hierarchies and social dominance exist, but the idea of "alpha males" and "beta males" as two distinct classes of people is total pop psychology nonsense. Social status is entirely context dependent. To the extent that being an "alpha male" is a real thing, it's a role that you play in specific situations. Not a permanent part of your identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:12 AM
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OF WOLVES.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:10 AM
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so glad you never need emotional support from another human being in any way ever. what a sigma chad we have here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:09 AM
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As opposed to the 20 something guys, who only want to talk about what football teams tied last week, call of duty, or how much they drank last night. both sexes have a majority boring low iq people with shitty interests and a minority of interesting people with higher brow interests. to say one is systemically more interesting than the other is usually just misogyny or misandry
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:08 AM
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Ikr? I have mostly female friends. Sometimes they'll try to get me to buy them drinks or whatever. I tell them no. If they stop being my friend because of that, no major loss. Just like many men aren't capable of having platonic female friends, I've found some women aren't capable of having platonic male friends. (Obviously context is important-- I'll buy drinks for friends (male and female) all the time in a "you get this round, I'll get that round" kind of way. but if it's one sided "you alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:04 AM
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At this point in my life probably. Ask me a few years ago maybe not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 06:59 AM
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I don't care what you think you would do. You're probably wrong. Peoples self reported expectations of their future behavior are worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:59 AM
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Exactly. People act like "testosterone" is a spiritual vibe-y magical force instead of just a molecule like any other
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:19 AM
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I think your just being affected by selection bias or only listening to the loudest voices. Remember gen z is having less sex with fewer partners than previous generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 07:27 AM
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18-24.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 07:26 AM
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I just fundamentally don't believe the number of politically celibate people of any kind is all that high at all. It's usually a case of sour grapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 07:07 AM
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In general single women fare better than single men at every age because they have more and deeper friendships
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 07:04 AM
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No shit. In almost every respect people tend to prefer other people similar to them. Theres not a shred of evidence anywhere for "opposites attract"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 07:03 AM
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Introspection illusion. People are actually terrible at predicting their own future behavior and understanding their actual intentions and desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 07:01 AM
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uncertainty builds attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 07:00 AM
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Men love bitches at least as much as women love assholes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:59 AM
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Lmao this is not true
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:59 AM
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Love bombing only works when they believe (truthfully or not) that you are attractive/high value. "Feigning low interest" is more of a personal ego defense thing. Or how to act before you've established that your attractive/high value. But also yeah, sort of a mix of both is what "works" the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:58 AM
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Damn looking into it some more it appears you and the other commentor are right. I stand corrected. I had in my head conflated what I had seen in wikipedia and a few other more continuously updated sources with what general biology textbooks show.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:41 PM
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I'm not "blue pill" because I think literally everything the "red pill" says is wrong but because I think much of what the "red pill" claims is "forbidden knowledge" is well known and widely understood. The "red pill" is a mix of obvious truths repackaged to sound edgy and controversial combined with insane obviously wrong BS pushed with it for a specific agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:31 AM
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Literally any lol what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:28 AM
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I fully subscribe to capitalism but at the same time I have this sort of visceral belief that the people who provide goods or service essential for life to exist (farmers, healthcare workers, childcare workers, and sanitation workers primarily) have an inherent value to society that people in much higher paid occupations don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:27 AM
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I work at a college bar and its well understood that business has been declining from year-to-year for the last decade or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:23 AM
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Disagree. I've been in greek life and now I work at a college bar so I'd say I have a pretty good idea of how the gen z hookup scene works and I'd say the people who genuinely maintain multiple casual relationships at once are a small minority, even among those who have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:22 AM
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Yes. The women interested enough to want to date me are also interested enough to want to sleep together asap. I've never seen a shred of evidence for the red pill claim that "women make the boyfriend material guy wait"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:20 AM
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In my dozen or so casual sex experiences I've never had a woman leave immediately or kick me out right after. But thats mostly because these situations arose because we had some kind of not purely physical connection in the first place. I have heard of this among friends who do engage in casual sex out of pure physical attraction and nothing else though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:15 AM
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Who cares how they go down? It's a statement about the intent of another person. Not a statement about the morality of those intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:12 AM
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Lmao I relate. Like I have no qualms about sleeping with someone on the first date, but I want to have the first date first damn it!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:11 AM
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Who denies this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:03 AM
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I think its important to point out that the feeling of limerance/love itself, the "intense and overwhelming longing to form an exclusive committed bond with another" is NOT socially constructed but a human cultural universal. People in every time and place experience it and IT will occur in two people when the conditions for it are right. It derives from an evolved instinct to create an optimal environment for child rearing. How the feeling is interpreted, whether society endorses or condemns it…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:59 AM
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Agree on this front. "You have to be perfect and have fixed every problem in your life before you date" is stupid advice
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:53 AM
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This is still somewhat the case, but true less and less. I think many women are more willing to "date down" in terms of income if the man brings other things to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:50 AM
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Yes there literally is, having low bf is crucial for an attractive face. You literally don't know if you have a sharp jaw or defined cheekbones if they are covered in a layer of fat. People consistently underestimate this. I'm not saying it will necessarily always work, but if you haven't done it you haven't tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:22 PM
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A "blue pill" youtuve channel I watch that focuses on the actual academic studies on dating/attractiveness has three pieces of advice for men who want to be more attractive: Lift weights Get a degree Be nice to people
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 06:40 PM
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How to get attractive: cut to 12% bf
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 06:38 PM
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Was the United States taken over by the Taliban? "Hanging on long enough in a guerilla war in your own backyard for the occupying power to give up and leave" is not the same as "military defeating and subjugating the occupying power" South Korea could easily stave off a North Korean invasion. But South Korea invading and occupying the North? Not so simple
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:51 PM
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Also have you ever heard of drones? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:16 AM
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That's assuming Samsung doesn't take over the role of childbirth and rearing in society
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:11 AM
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Where are these social media posts of men getting flamed for being awkward? Is this a real phenomenon? I've never seen this happen. You can still be a creep lol, it's a free country.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:09 AM
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The north Korea that has tanks and artillery and fighters literally decades behind what South Korea has? Tech is everything in modern war lol, just look at how the Iraqi military got eviscerated and humiliated in the gulf war by a coalition that was 20-30 years ahead in tech. it was embarassing. if I have 2024 jet fighters and you have 1974 jet fighters, I'm going to destroy you and suffer zero casualties.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:53 AM
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Tard logic. The enemy of man is nature. Smallpox and plague have killed more people than every war and genocide combined. we won't get taken over by high birth rate societies, we'll produce babies out of test tubes. Socially conservative societies are economically and intellectually repressive and have no chance of competing against the modern west. look at how pathetic the trad cons in russia and 95% of the Islamic world are by comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:49 AM
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Also there's no such thing as "nature doing its thing" or "objective reasonable numbers". That's a projection of human desires onto nature. A 100 mile asteroid could annihilate all life on the planet tomorrow and "nature" wouldn't care
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:46 AM
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The problem isn't a decreasing population, it's an aging population. People sounding the alarms about birthrates are not all just social conservatives with a hidden agenda. The cold and brutal truth is that with an aging population, the government is going to have to cut off the spigot of retirement benefits for the childless generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:45 AM
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force women to be baby factories!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:43 AM
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If they are looking around the room, they want to be approached. If they are fully engaged in a conversation with their friends, they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:32 AM
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maybe once or twice. crying is weakness and makes people respect you less. I'm a bleeding heart liberal blue pill and I've always grasped this pretty intuitively. are there actually straight men who don't? politically incorrect I guess but the world isn't particularly nice or fair
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 07:29 AM
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Lol i don't think this situation happens to you very often
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 07:17 AM
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I've literally never had a rejection worse than "no thanks". but I think that's because I can read cues enough to know which women obviously don't want to be approached
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 07:16 AM
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lol if men actually consistently approached women tactfully and respectfully and knew how to read cues and leave at the right time women would not need to be nearly this standoffish. if you were consistently harassed by people who wanted to take far more value from your life than they were offering you would get cold and standoffish as well. considering how they're treated most women are actually way too patient with random men. most men with any sort of options will react far worse to being app…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 07:13 AM
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-improve your appearance -lower your standards -approach more people literally every dating problem is solved by doing some combination of those three things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 07:10 AM
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Actual ADHD (not that most people are faking it) is a much greater and more debilitating disability than most people think
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 07:08 AM
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He should lift weights and seek to enhance his appearance as much as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 07:07 AM
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free will doesnt exist so sure
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 07:05 AM
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It's definitely gotten BETTER over time. Casual cruelty towards low-status people is much less accepted now. Our society is in general more compassionate than it was in the past and it's a good thing. Just look at how acceptable bullying people with mental disabilities used to be. That stuff just doesn't happen today. High-status high school kids will not openly bully and harass those of low-status, they'll typically just ignore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 07:03 AM
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How many fucking black billionaires are there anyway lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 07:00 AM
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No one thinks this. This isn't what white privilege means. Even the most batshit brain dead woke ideologues like Ibram Kendi or whatever explicitly deny this
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 06:59 AM
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People who say this NEVER actually want to talk about class, they just want to silence conversations about race and gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 06:58 AM
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Both are true. Women generally have better social skills across the board. Because they have a higher drive towards social harmony.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 06:57 AM
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7 mill net worth is top like 0.1%, just lol if you think there's no cultural difference between a person like that and the working class
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:54 PM
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Someone who grew up poor on a small farm is going to be uneducated and uncultured. They are probably going to be into religion, superstition, and other more base interests rather than art, science, higher culture. Obviously there are many exceptions to this rule but it's generally true. Sure what I'm saying is pretty classist but it's really just the politically incorrect way to say "people are compatible with people who grew up similar to themselves"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:51 PM
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You said that the existence of some disabled men with partners proves that disabled people aren't in general sexually selected against. Is that not what you said?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:07 AM
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Thats literally the category of argument that your response falls into
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:40 AM
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diet down to 12% bf. if you don't do this you aren't trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:08 AM
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water is wet
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:06 AM
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The worst thing about it is it usually comes from well meaning left-liberals who are motivated by the false belief that endorsing evo psych means endorsing the right-wing caricature of evo psych. actual evo psych has a ton of findings that are very inconvenient for right wingers and the red pill in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 03:55 AM
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"this general tendency in behavior isnt real because sometimes there are exceptions" if you can't distinguish between categorical and statistical claims you have no business arguing about anything "on average men aren't taller than women because sometimes women are taller than men"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 03:52 AM
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to support my claim that everything is social conditioning i'll only cite the guy chiefly known for claiming that everything is social conditoning do you think this is some kind of argument? it's literally just me saying "i know jesus rose from the dead because the gospel said so" it's very well established that mid 20th century psychology/sociology dramatically underestimated genetics/biology as a driver of human behavior compared to socialization/environment. if there's any human behavior that…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 03:44 AM
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the female version of "women need to be submissive trad-housewife virgins to ever find a man"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:42 AM
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men and women are equally likely to end relationships, what are you talking about lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:38 AM
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Individualism is overall better than collectivism, but that doesn't mean it's better in every way or that there aren't specific elements of collectivism we were unwise to let vanish.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:33 AM
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"you can't argue with postmodernism because actually you don't know what it is" most boring and typical defense for people infected with french theory brain rot to defend nonsensical bullshit the fact that "postmodernism" is nothing more than a floating signifier isn't a defense of the theory lmao, it's a massive blow to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:29 AM
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Bars are way better than clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/24 07:00 AM
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Lol I know plenty. Promiscuous women are probably less likely to have mental trauma than internet misogynists
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:47 AM
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The only reason an attractive and non-religious woman would be a virgin past her early 20's in 99% of cases is mental illness/social impairment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:36 AM
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Not sure what you mean here. I'm not taking a position on whether this is good or not. I'm just making a prediction about what I see as most likely, barring a worldwide catastrophe or radical transformation that upends the world system.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:34 AM
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Corporations. You ever read brave new world? Or even seen the movie WALL-E? Just like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:09 AM
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The problem isn't a smaller population, the problem is a shrinking population and especially an aging population. If the population was shrinking not because of declining births but because of randomly selected people disappearing, it would not be as disruptive (well in this particular way)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:59 PM
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"forcing behaviors" doesn't mean what you think it means. regardless, yeah, it's a dumb thing to say and this guy is a greedy ego driven prick, but that doesn't mean he's the 1984 puppet master you know what would happen if I walked down the street and shouted "fuck you fatty!" at the first fat person I saw? Abso-fucking-lutely nothing. Touch grass
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:52 PM
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Yeah I'm agreeing with you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:45 PM
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to some extent. it's really easy to overdo it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:22 AM
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Thank god.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:21 AM
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LMAO who do you think is imposing "body positivity" from the top down??
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:20 AM
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Unless your on a liberal arts college campus or certain urban neighborhoods, actual "woke" leftist activist types are few and far between.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:19 AM
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All of the women I've dated have been vaguely left-liberal but mostly apolitical and very secular. There's no shortage of women like that. I wouldn't date a woman who was religious, conservative, or communist, but that's never been a problem, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:18 AM
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Why should you care what random women on the internet think about your preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:12 AM
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If you have very few sexual prospects, it makes sense to try to keep the ones you have around longer. I promise you most (not all) of these guys would probably change their tune if they actually had a lot of sexual options. Again, don't listen to what people say, watch what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:11 AM
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You've got to be kidding me lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:08 AM
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Most likely, we eventually revert to producing babies in artificial wombs. They'll be raised by corporations and/or states. The alternative is economic collapse or the rollback of women's rights, neither of which either the general population or the elites will tolerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:07 AM
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Fun fact: men consistently overestimate how attracted women are to them. Men are far more likely to see flirting where none exists than to "miss the hints".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:59 AM
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Yeah, no, that first point is definitely specialized knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:34 AM
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Eh. It's rarely as bad as "I want to make sure your rich so I can exploit your money", it's usually "I want to generally size you up on the society wide socioeconomic status ladder"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:27 AM
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The only context I've seen it IRL is when the two people are geographically separated for a while and it's usually a lowkey understanding of "look, we both have needs, just please be discreet and mature" Never run into people doing it openly and proudly really
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:24 AM
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Also remember that the further someone lived in the past, the more descendants they'll have. And also that there are many, many, people it would be notable to be "descended from" Let's avoid the Texas sharpshooter fallacy here. I'm sure virtually everyone is descended from multiple ancient/medieval rulers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:58 AM
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Yeah obviously I'm not saying conspiracies never happen just that its less common than people think and usually the simplest and most direct explanation for something is correct
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:56 AM
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women are more likely to be socially savvy enough to avoid it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:22 AM
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The whole "this is a psyop" thing is so overplayed. Society mostly evolves organically due to the mass decisions of the great many people. Not because a few people at the top control everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:20 AM
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Reddit is a distraction from the real issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:20 AM
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Idk man, maybe the fucking one that kills the other at 10x the goddamn rate?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:18 AM
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Young men with options typically want casual sex. Older men or men without options are more likely to want relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:18 AM
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conspiracy moment. I disagree with a lot of the "identity politics" and "postmodernism" stuff but the ever-paranoid right winger sees threats and conspiracies where none exist. all of the people pushing this genuinely believe it and argue it for its own sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:22 AM
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it's not social programming
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:20 AM
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Yeah, it's typical "women aren't perfect, therefore they're evil and worse than men" logic "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" isn't true for anyone. Even babies can identify attractive faces in adults in less than a split second.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:20 AM
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We all need to run our partners by this guy to make sure we're all in the right leagues
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 07:26 AM
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Unless you have an actual physical deformity, you can get to "above average" by working out, losing weight (cutting to 12%--the last bit matters), clearing up your skin, getting a good haircut, and dressing better. The incels here claim they do all this but I call BS. I see guys all the fuckiny time in my day to day life who not only aren't trying but look like they have no concept of what "presenting yourself" even means. From there it's just about going out and talking to women in an at least …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 07:25 AM
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The industrial revolution was the best thing to ever happen to us. The "akychuqlly it was a bad thing" take is so dumb and everyone knows it. Including the people who say it, I suspect. (The unibomber might have been q great mathematician but his forays into politics are just schizophrenic nonsense) Go ahead and fucking live in the woods and do everything with your hands and if you really believe this. No one's stopping you. Why don't you do this? I think we both know why. Because life is easy n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 07:16 AM
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Monogamy is polyamory because your including another person in your sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:07 AM
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No it hasn't. It's not a one to one correlation because obviously many "attractive" traits impose a health burden on the organism but looked at broadly healthy mates are generally preferred to less healthy mates. Ome counter example does not disprove a general observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:09 AM
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Watching porn or reading erotica doesn't mean you want someone else sleeping with your partner lol What a huge moving of the goalposts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:07 AM
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https://www.thoughtco.com/marriage-3026396 You haven't updated your sources in fifty years. Sociology has backed off big time from "literally everything is a social construct". I never said marriage is always monogamous in every culture. Just that some form of official recognition of a persistent relationship between one and one woman is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:06 AM
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because it's not fucking true. you can't pray the gay away and you also can't socially engineer the straight and monogamous away either. what a dumb fucking take. you think sexual preferences like heterosexuality and "healthy=good" has nothing to do with the whole "evolution" thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 10:36 AM
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The average man is overweight bordering on obese. It is absolutely not true that most men already do what they need to do to be attractive. The vast majority of the time when I see "ugly" people its pretty obvious what they could do to "fix" it. Rarely is it unchangeable. Actually ugly faces are kind of rare. Most people only think they are ugly because fat obfuscates their facial bones.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 10:31 AM
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Polyamory is very much NOT natural for the majority of the population. The vast majority of people are serial monogamists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:57 AM
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In surveys its consistently about ~20-25% of people who are cheaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:55 AM
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Widespread polyamory will never happen. Millions of years of evolutionary programming can't be undone by being told "akcyhually jealousy is toxic". Thats not how people work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:54 AM
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This is absurdly false. Humans evolved to date multiple people over their life in a row not at the same time! We're serial monogamists. A minority of people truly are lifelong monogamists. A tiny minority maybe genuinely polyamorous, but the near-universal experience of sexual/relational jealousy proves its not realistic or desirable for the vast majority of people. Some form of one-man-to-one-woman "marriage" exists in every known culture. It's clearly part of our biology and not something you …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:50 AM
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facts. never seen a hot person into polyamory. it's always fat androgynous (androgyny isn't always ugly but very few people can pull it off) weird looking people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:38 AM
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Indias population isn't predicted to peak until after 2060
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:36 AM
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I agree here. Humility used to be one of the core traditional Christian virtues. I'm an avowed atheist but I think Christianity was dead right here. Our culture now worships narcissism, and every side of the political spectrum wants to tell us how "pride" is a good thing now. It blows my mind that trad cons don't talk about this more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:21 AM
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It's more than just testosterone, I'm pretty sure. But that plays a role. Part of it is just that smaller people tend to live longer than larger people. Less stress on the body and less surface area to pick up toxins. Although I'm no expert here. Can you explain what you mean by those last two things? Edit: got different threads confused
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:04 AM
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women live longer than men in every time and place in human history, even controlling for violent deaths. its biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:29 AM
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Your perpetuating myths about witch-hunts, at least how they were carried out in medieval Europe. They were not widespread, executions were not the norm, they did not generally target midwives and herbalists (who were highly respected--as they are in most cultures), they did not only target women, and plenty of people at the time thought they were dumb and criticized them. "The idea that those accused of witchcraft were midwives or herbalists, and especially that they were midwives possessed of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:25 AM
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Violent crime rates. I rest my case. even most non-violent crimes are committed at much higher rates by men. (Iirc the one exception is shoplifting). Men seem to have a much harder time playing nice with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:07 AM
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No and it's not true for women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 07:59 AM
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No one says this stuff in real life. You don't need to justify your sexual preferences to strangers on the internet lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 07:58 AM
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I hate blank slate sjw leftists but I really fucking hate right-wing racists and misogynists who butcher evolutionary psychology to say things it doesn't. A huge portion of the left is so fucking terrified of hitler's ghost that they deny obvious empirically proven facts just because they think anything short of "reality itself is a social construction" is a slippery slope to aushwitz. Just because genes have a gigantic effect on outcomes does not mean we need to go all nazi on the unlucky, it m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:00 AM
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No. In statistics, what your referring to would be the strength of the correlation/association. Positive vs negative refers to whether a rise in X is related to a rise in X or a fall in X
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:24 AM
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plenty of "weird kids" learn/choose to fit in rather than "avoid the bully". you just don't realize it because they aren't weird kids anymore. literally everyone will tell you about "weird" behaviors they used to engage in until they faced negative social feedback and changed. bullying is a normal and usually constructive human behavior taken to a pathological extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:10 AM
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genetic component is huge. not tiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:04 AM
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lol at thinking that's how anyone makes decisions about these things
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:50 AM
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can you tell me one time ever this happened
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:49 AM
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Wrong. Your conclusion does not follow from your premises. The proportion of women who have "reported" a man for "approaching them with romantic intent" says little or maybe nothing about the probably of being "reported" for a particular "approach". It's like saying that because say, 20% of cops have ever used their gun in any interaction with a civilian, that therefore, if I walk up to a cop and ask him for directions that I stand a 20% chance of being shot. There's clearly a lurking variable h…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:55 AM
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Well first of all, most of the poorest countries in the world are in sub saharan Africa (combination of vety poor geography, relative historical isolation, tropical diseases, the legacy of brutal colonization, ethnic conflicts, corrupt institutions, and leftist ideologies) the part of the world the US clearly has the least interest in. Second of all, the "countries we bomb" we do so because they harbor enemies of the US, and we are able to more effectively fight them and do so with fewer civilia…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 09:52 AM
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I never said my country was perfect. I said that its pretty undeniable that some countries have a more negative impact on the world than others. You really can't argue they are all "equally evil". Therefore, you have to grant that some have a relatively positive impact. I also completely agree that US foreign policy is more motivated by our interests than our values. However, we shouldn't make the mistake of thinking that because the US doesn't always live up to its claim of "defending freedom a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 09:44 AM
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there's no such thing as free will for anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:45 AM
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Testosterone does not promote aggressive and violent behavior. Common misconception. It promotes status-seeking behavior, which is often but not always aggressive and violent. In the right social millieu where men gain status from pro-social behavior, higher testosterone encourages men to do good things
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:43 AM
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"Demisexual" is not real lol. It's just a label for people who want to feel special for having the "normal" sexuality. (Normal as in most common, not "better"). The vast majority of people do need some kind of emotional connection to have sex. There's nothing wrong with being a "slut", but its a small minority of people who actually want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:33 AM
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How? It's true that the French system was better than the monarchies Napoleon fought against, but at the end of the day he was just an imperialist warmonger like his contemporaries. Especially by the end, his actions were pretty obviously motivated by an out of control god complex. Wielding power for the good of the masses is positive masculinity, doing it for self-aggrandizement is not. He was definitely one of the most impressive people who ever lived, but while he wasn't truly a villain, he d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:15 AM
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What's his war crime? Do you even know what war crimes are?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:14 AM
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Yes bombing islamist terrorists in a calculated informed manner is not "for fun". If you refuse to fight evil because you're more concerned about keeping your own hands clean than about the suffering of innocents, you are self-centered and a coward. Do you think every war ever is the fault of the US? Would you have opposed US intervention in WW2?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:13 AM
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We don't "bomb poor countries". You have a two year old understanding of international relations and world politics
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:10 AM
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The alternative to drone strikes is letting the armies in the area artillery blitz insurgent compounds as well. You might as well ask why Roosevelt didn't cry about all the German children he blew up. Except that was different, because there were far more civilian deaths from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:10 AM
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Politicians are nor really morally worse than normal people. We just refuse to believe that we'd do the same shit in their position. Also every single politician gets shit thrown at them by the other side and insults and negatives always draw our attention more than compliments and successes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:06 AM
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So? Being the world superpower requires it. You literally cannot be a pacifist president. Politics is ultimately deciding who lives and who dies. The alternative to targeted drone strikes is letting the Pakistani or Iraqi military use ww2 artillery to level the entire town surrounding an insurgent compound. The US carries out these strikes because we can do it with fewer casualties. These strikes have the lowest collateral damage rates in the world. But sure, just pump out the "he bombed 200 gaj…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:05 AM
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I mean, continuing to treat cruel and selfish people kindly is itself unkind and antisocial.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:46 AM
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No. This idea that anyone actually prefers being treated badly is absurd, totally unsupported by evidence, and usually a cope by "nice guys" who aren't actually as kind as they think they are. (Actually "kind" people are not always romantically successful, but they are almost always socially successful. If you have no friends, chances are its because your an asshole) A better explanation is "both men and women prefer kind partners, but they just prefer hot partners even moreso".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:45 AM
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Fair, my bad
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:28 PM
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He would literally sleep with women (usually in the context of threesomes/orgies-- I don't doubt that he was fully gay)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:18 PM
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Women have more value (especially young/non obese women... maybe only these women) and more leverage, but they do not have all of it. Women absolutely do compete over men, I don't know how you can possibly deny that. I've rejected women all the time at varying stages in the "dating game". Is it true that I'm more often the one being rejected? Sure. But its definitely not the case that I'm desperate to marry the first woman who looks at me. Most of the time "being rejected" is just "ending a conv…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:26 AM
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I mean the fact that attachment theory as you describe it posits that "people either emulate their parents behavior or swing to the complete opposite" should raise serious skepticism. It's basically admitting the theory is unfalsifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:01 AM
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The most charismatic (in terms of "able to get people to do the things he wanted them to") man I ever knew was literally gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 07:56 AM
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"love" in the Hollywood sense doesn't exist at any age
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 07:54 AM
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guy 2
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 07:54 AM
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Parenting style has almost no effect on adult personality. https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/200809/the-50-0-50-rule-why-parenting-has-virtually-no-effect
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 07:24 AM
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It's largely genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 07:24 AM
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Not remotely true. I was literally unemployed living in my parents' basement for a year at age 20-21 and dated a string of reasonably attractive women with full time jobs and their own apartments. There is no way this would have been possible for my grandfather. Dating has never been easier for heterosexual men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:47 AM
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Agreed. People should complain less. Plenty of women don't expect me to throw money at them for literally nothing, so the women who do should understand that that is their competition. Either compete or don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:36 AM
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Men who expect that are also entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:23 AM
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Throwing money at a woman your not sleeping with is really dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:22 AM
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Never thought I'd agree so strongly with a communist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:01 AM
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Especially if you're willing to compromise on looks, as you said. People value different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:55 AM
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I think your missing the point here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:48 AM
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yikes at "girls" and "men" in the same context
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:46 AM
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Not in my experience. Whether I pay or not for a first date has almost nothing to do with whether I "get" a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:42 AM
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I do those things for everyone, not just the women I date. It's called "being a kind and considerate person" and doesn't need to be gendered at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:38 AM
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I have no problem with people expecting the opposite sex to perform their traditional gender role, as long as they do so themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:34 AM
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No. Not on a first date, at least. In my dating experience, most women do offer to split, and many actually insist on it because they do not want the guy to feel like he's "owed" something. Although the women I date are almost always UMC/liberal and I explicitly avoid "traditional" women, so maybe it's different elsewhere. It really is sort of an awkward part of modern daying because at least personally I won't ask the woman to split (although maybe I should--haven't been on a traditional date i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:23 AM
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No. Maybe the socially autistic women who complain loudly on the internet about it do, but the vast majority of people like being talked to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:10 AM
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everyone is so obsessed these days with "their rights" but no one talks about responsibilities. it's all "what can I take from society, what does society owe me?" and never "what do I owe society?"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:04 AM
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No. The right to abortion is not a right to "only be a parent when you choose to", it's a right to control your own body. Once the child is out in the world, the parents are going to foot the bill, not the taxpayer. Is that unfair that a man could be forced to become a parent against his will, while women (where abortion is freely available) can not? Sure. Just like its unfair that 90% of men are stronger than 95% of women. Biology isn't fair or equal. I do think there should be paternity tests …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 08:56 AM
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Yes. Men and women are both extremely illogical. People don't think and then act, they act and then rationalize. Most of your beliefs are probably post-hoc justifications for behaviors you were going to do anyways. The proof of this is that while humans have an extraordinary natural talent for socializing with and understanding each other, we spent hundreds of thousands of years without figuring out one fucking true fact about the natural world because "logic" and "evidence" hadn't been invented…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:33 AM
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The human condition. We stand miles above the other animals in our awesome splendor, but we can't escape sharing the same fate as the rest of them. We're self-aware worm food.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:31 AM
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Eh. Thats not all that red pill teaches. I do agree that a significant portion of "blue pilled" people are blank-slate ideologues with a far too rosy view of human nature, but that doesn't mean that what the red pill teaches is true. Red killers frequently butcher and misrepresent evolutionary psychology to say things that it doesn't, and always leave out the parts that don't go along with their narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:29 AM
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Yeah the vast majority of people are incapable of it. There is way too much evolutionary programming against it. Humans are serial monogamists. Not giving a shit if the parent of your kid runs off with someone else and abandons you is a good way to get removed from the gene pool. The vast majority of open relationships are super one-sided, with one partner demanding it and the other acquiesing because they have no self-respect. There's this weird tendancy now for people to misunderstand sexual j…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:24 AM
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Exactly. If censorship doesn't work, why do people do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 01:13 PM
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Yeah? Isn't this kind of a general cultural expectation of people in all anglo-teutonic cultures? To be stoic, dignified, and restrained? I think it's largely a good thing, and a part of the reason this culture has dominated and been spread around the world. I admire when others express these traits, and I lose respect for people who are unable to keep a cool head. Constantly forcing other people to tiptoe around your anger or sadness or whatever is parasitic and selfish. Maybe it's contrary to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:44 AM
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don't you have some discredited 19th century french social theory to be reading?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 01:30 AM
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Typical internet commie behavior. Thinking it's more important to tell people to "read more theory bro" than to actually do any thinking themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 01:25 AM
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Okay? I agree. I don't think think your very good at listening. I literally said I think eliminating poverty is much more important than reducing inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 01:22 AM
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I'm being sarcastic
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 01:20 AM
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Drug assisted sexual assault isn't real. Not a shred of evidence backs it up as a widespread phenomenon. The date rape drug is and always has been alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:16 PM
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yeah because SARS-CoV-2 totally has my best interests at heart
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:38 PM
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Your right ill stick to deep insightful analysis like "capitalism is a disease!!", thanks dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:18 PM
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yeah its so sheepish to trust vaccines. not like they've saved a billion lives in the past century. total retard move to fear your government more than disease
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:18 PM
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You know there's a huge middle ground between "environmentalists are in a religious doom cult" and "the world will in fact literally end if we do t do everything they say"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:18 PM
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seriously? wasn't that supposed to have like killed us all by now?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:17 PM
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Life is infinitely better now than in 1500.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:16 PM
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why "suppress innovation" when you can use it yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:15 PM
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There's not a single non-military technological advancement that genuinely created more problems than it solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:12 PM
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there are more poor people in the United States than in Haiti therefore the United States is a poorer country and needs foreign aid more
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 11:29 AM
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Commies don't want worker protections. Thats what social liberals want. Commies want to kill the most productive people in society and make the economy collapse. It's a hateful and violent ideology based on envy of the rich instead of concern for the poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 11:19 AM
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No it doesn't. Inequality and poverty are not identical. "Extreme poverty is disappearing" and "inequality is skyrocketing" are 100% compatible claims
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 11:14 AM
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It's a very fair question. If you claim you hate humanity and want us to go extinct, you better put your money where your mouth is. Or else what you really want is for everyone else to die, which by definition is basically pure evil. If hating a race and wishing for their annihilation is evil, why would hate every race and wishing for all of them to be annihilated he better? "Humans are a cancer and need to die!!" types are ideologically mini hitlers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 11:10 AM
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just stop eating and sustaining yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 11:09 AM
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petroleum penicillin and fertilizer are the greatest and noblest achievements of humanity by far
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 11:08 AM
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The industrial revolution didn't take everyone's jobs so I'm fairly certain AI won't either. People have been claiming that technology would bring us a work-free utopia in the very near future for thousands of years but it has never happened. Because people want to work. When technology advances and people have the choice of more free time or a higher standard of living they almost always pick the second
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 11:05 AM
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revealed preferences doesn't really support the "id have kids if I was richer" claim
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 11:02 AM
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It's not really. A degree of femininity makes a man more attractive to women and a degree of masculinity makes a woman more attractive to men. Obsessing over being as masculine as possible is about impressing and intimidating other men, not attracting women. (assume it's similar with femininity)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:56 AM
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matters less to men for sure but the guys here claiming they don't care at all about validation from their friends (or strangers) for getting with the "hot girl" are lying (to themselves probably)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:52 AM
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if you meet someone trashy, they're trashy. if everyone you meet is trashy, you're trashy!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:49 AM
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One night stands? Not really. Casual dating? Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:43 AM
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Yup. Virtually no one with an actual choice prefers to be alone. "I'm a lone wolf sigma male/a strong independent women who doesn't need a man" is always a cope for being rejected. Sour grapes and all. Millions of years of evolution has shaped us to fear and loathe loneliness and isolation more than anything. A solo human was easy prey for the big cats that hunted our ancestors.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:42 AM
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"Trashy" is just a negative term for low SES indicators. Smoking is one of them (in the US, not so much in Europe)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:35 AM
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We're talking about our culture. In the US in 2023 piercings on men are objectively a low-class fashion indicator. That's not necessarily bad. People by and large dress to match their company, not to impress the rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:29 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:27 AM
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lack of emotional restraint
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:26 AM
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who cares. it's only on the internet where people actually hate straight white men. we're still pretty popular in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:34 AM
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random violence against anyone is a super rare experience and both men and women are irrationally afraid of it. a stranger can benefit by stealing my wallet or robbing my house, but what do they possibly stand to gain from killing me? most criminals are quite sane and commit crime because they think they stand to gain from it. the only people who gain from killing strangers are the people who get off to it, which is what serial killers are
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:32 AM
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Doesn't answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:24 AM
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male privilege exists but not in the simple unnuanced way white privilege exists. you really can't speak of the two in the same way. patriarchy and white supremacy function very differently. there are virtually no positive stereotypes about black people (in the US) and being black almost always results in worse treatment than being white. there are many negative stereotypes about being male and numerous instances where being male results in worse treatment than being female. obviously men also e…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:18 AM
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Agreed here. I think social-justice oriented white women often don't grasp that a lot of the harsh and unfair treatment black men experience for being "threatening" and "dangerous" isn't because they're black but because they're men, and white (as well as hispanic and asian) men share this experience to some extent as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:10 AM
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Jesus christ, what's with the victim complex? Are you either very physically small or totally lacking assertiveness? I've had plenty of experiences with unwanted attention from women and yeah its annoying and kind of uncomfortable but at the end of the day what exactly is a 5'5" 125 lb woman going to do? I'm not going to act like this is just as threatening as the reverse situation would be for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:02 AM
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The real reason "no one cares" is the cold truth that men are much bigger and stronger than women so unwanted male on female attention is much more threatening than unwanted female on male attention. Might be politically incorrect to tell a certain type of anti-feminist this, but its true. The best parallel for a straight man to understand why sexual harassment is a big deal to women isn't to ask them about their experiences with pushy/creepy women but from pushy/creepy gay men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:55 AM
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As someone who works at a bar and has a lot of time to observe these things, while I can confirm there is a lot of female-on-male sexual harassment that flies under the radar, there is no way in hell it comes close to male-on-female sexual harassment, sorry. A major reason for this I think is that, while still a small minority of men overall, socially uncallibrated males far exceed socially uncallibrated females.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:47 AM
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I guarantee you no one thinks it's "unmasculine" to care about your appearance. You might have some autistic kind of misperception of what people mean when they say "well dressed". It does not mean dressing in flamboyant colors or wearing a tux to casual functions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 12:34 PM
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Especially amazing because "the blue pill" is completely compatible with evolutionary biologist. Ask any actual evolutionary biologist and they'll tell you all about the central role that altruism and cooperation played in our species' history.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 12:18 PM
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When I was younger, I was surprised by all the ways women differed from men. These days, I find myself surprised by all the ways women turn out to be the same as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:34 AM
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Who told you this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:31 AM
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people assortively mate by a variety of factors. IQ is a major one. thus people on either extreme of the distribution have a much harder time finding partners. especially so for men because there is somewhat more variance in the IQ distribution for men compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:47 AM
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a few years older? absolutely. a few decades older? absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:44 AM
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well, I guess we have different anecdotal experiences then
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:36 AM
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status is entirely context dependant because it is a social construction. the "high status person" in a room is whoever everyone in the room thinks is high status. for every "high status" person in the world, you can imagine a situation in which they become nobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:32 AM
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for both men and women peoples standards for how their partner should look are too high while their standards for how they should be treated are too low
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:25 AM
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a handful of things I've read on the subject suggest that bisexuals usually have a strong gender preference one way or the other for long-term relationships. of the many bisexual people I have known in my life, almost all seemed to be willing to sleep with people of either sex but only really dated people of one or the other. (i'm not saying they always end up in "straight" relationships--i've known bi men who would sleep with women but only date men and bi women who would sleep with men but onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:23 AM
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if everything else about my birth including location is random? heterosexual male
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:18 AM
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No we fucking aren't what the actual fuck are you talking about. We're the most social and most cooperative mammal that ever existed. What other mammals cooperate in groups larger than ten? What a bastardization and mischaracterization of evolutionary psychology. Every single evolutionary psychologist would emphasize the profound impact of cooperation in humans and would argue that humans have an innate biological sense of fairness and equality that is nearly nonexistent in other animals. You do…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:24 AM
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No, this would not happen. Ants have different biological incentives and programming. This is the kind of question a person whose entire education is in the humanities or social sciences with no understanding of natural science would think is important or meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:18 AM
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What an ignorant and sentimental view of the world. DNA is the programming of all life. "You" are an extremely complex biochemical machine. Just like you aren't consciously aware of your own digestion, you aren't consciously aware of everything driving your behavior. You are only conscious of the things that evolution deemed it useful to be conscious of. Your consciousness isn't fucking real. Its like the screen display of a computer. A dramatically oversimplified stylized representation of cert…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:14 AM
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"Community" for most of human history was never about "shared interests." It was about physical proximity. Instead of trying to find other people who share your interests, maybe try taking more of an interest in the people who happen to be around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:53 AM
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its really not that risky unless the women is mentally deranged or you are socially disabled
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:47 AM
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most people can pick up social cues and back off when they get signs of disinterest. the people getting accused of sexual harassment either have social impairments where they can't tell or moral impairments where they don't care. women get hit on all the time. do you really think they accuse every man they aren't interested in of sexually harassment?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:45 AM
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yes if you want to have sex with someone you should probably try flirting with them first to signal your interest and gauge theirs. crazy realization there!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:42 AM
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jesus christ you can flirt with someone without dehumanizing them. "Treating women as regular people" doesn't mean all your interactions with them have to be desexualized and inert. It just means that you treat them with respect and honor their boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:41 AM
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Men socialize and drink together in groups with no women present all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:35 AM
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I'm not sure what to tell you here. Maybe a mental health professional could help you deal with what appears to be narcissistic tendancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:35 AM
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Because relationships are based on overall similarity and compatibility, and people are usually very dissimilar to and not compatible with people of much different ages?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:16 AM
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We're not intimidated by you. We're embarassed of you sincerely, a "mid" guy with female friends who "gatekeeps" them from certain poorly socialized male acquaintances. The world isn't as zero sum as you think it is. When I make friends with an attractive, well-socialized cool guy, I'm happy to introduce him to my female friends. That raises my value and status in their eyes and makes them MORE likely to introduce me to their attractive single friends. The male friends I keep away from my high v…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:45 AM
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While it's true that women have a small intrinsic advantage in socializing compared to men, most of the difference comes from specific behaviors women engage in far more successfully than men do. Women by and large know how to make themselves look good, be pleasant to be around, and to be interested in other people in their lives. Most men who are social rejects have no idea how to look good or do and don't care, are unpleasant and disagreeable to be around, and are uninterested in other people'…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:27 AM
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Its true that it comes naturally to some people and for a small group of others it is virtually impossible. That said, social success is easily attainable for most people if they are willing to put in the work. There are probably specific things that you could do differently that you don't even know or think about. A lot of self improvement advice on the internet for men is terrible because the person giving it is trying to manipulate you in to buying a product or subscribing to an ideology. (Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:10 AM
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If you think making friends is harder than making a lot of money, getting jacked, or getting a college degree, then there's an >90% chance you have autism. No negative judgment there, just saying you are not a "normal" person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:58 AM
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The "male loneliness epidemic" is caused by men being needlessly hostile and competitive towards other men. Until we start treating each other the way women treat each other, we'll keep being miserable. I hear virtually no cultural critic/social commentators saying anything along the lines of "men: be nicer to each other".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:56 AM
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This is just not true. Autistic men on the internet are not men in general. The majority of men like socializing with other people and find it enjoyable. Do men not enjoy going to bars and parties and kickbacks? If you really think the only reason men ever go out and socialize is the possibility of sex, you'd be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:50 AM
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Obviously. I think a huge problem for a lot of the men here who complain about their lack of romantic/sexual success is that they are introverts. The more outward your personal orientation and the more you enjoy socializing for its own sake the more you'll end up doing it and the more people (men and women) you'll meet, befriend, and potentially date. In my experience, extraversion is just as important as looks and status for male sexual success. (And female too, just to a slightly lesser extent…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:48 AM
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I don't know, maybe for the same reason you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:35 AM
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Of course. The redpill line that women are more emotional and delusional than men isn't remotely true. The majority of people of both genders are irrationally narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:31 AM
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Classism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:29 AM
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Belief in conspiracy theories is highly associated with lower levels of education. Not sure where you got the idea that it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:28 AM
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A college degree is the best indicator of socioeconomic status. Thats what people are really looking for when they say they only want to date someone who is "college educated."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:26 AM
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Yes. A large percentage of college educated women (and men too, honestly) will be extremely unlikely to consider a serious relationship with someone who doesn't have a college education. A college degree is the simplest and most socially acceptable way to ascertain someone's economic class, intelligence, and conscientiousness. Thats what people are actually looking for when they say "college degree required," even if they don't fully know it. If you can plainly demonstrate high socioeconomic cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:23 AM
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Back when "community" was strong and loneliness was much less of a problem, said "communities" were based on physical proximity and almost never on a shared common interest. The idea that we should never compromise our individual identities for the sake of connecting with other people is absurd. You need to strike a balance. Just like how you shouldn't totally lose yourself just to fit in with the crowd, you also shouldn't get so lost in "being true to yourself" that you are left alone and adrif…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:08 AM
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This is not remotely true. Touch grass. Far more women will reject a man for a criminal record than for playing video games. What planet do you live on?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:02 AM
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"Traditionally masculine" and "toxically masculine" are not the same thing Its not at all obvious that all women prefer "traditional masculinity" the way you state it as a given Seriously, is every part of your persona and character based around conforming to (what you perceive to be) the female gaze? That sounds like a really sad existence. There are certain parts of my persona I would never change even if I knew they were sexually unappealing to every woman existence. Besides, how trad and mas…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 05:23 AM
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For the same reason the average joe of today is less happy than the average joe of the past. People don't base their sense of well-being on an objective analysis of their material living standards but base it instead on a vague perception of what sort of standard of living they feel they are entitled to. If we were rational, we would all (in developed western countries) feel euphorically happy that we had the divine good fortune of living in a time where modern science has almost completely bani…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 07:55 PM
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why am I even arguing with an actual incel? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:22 PM
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I wasn't "gloating about genocide." I was stating in stark terms what happens when magical thinking goes up against materialist thinking. Would you have preferred I used the example of 80 y/o Qanon types who refused to believe they were dying of COVID because muh orange man told them it was impossible?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:21 PM
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I'm not arguing that science is important, I'm arguing that "spiritual knowledge" has zero value. NOTHING was accomplished in the 200,000 years without science.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:19 PM
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The "materialistic paradigm" brought us to the moon, split the atom, and eradicated smallpox in less than 200 years. "Spiritual beliefs" and "ancient knowledge" accomplished literally nothing in the >200,000 years they were practiced. Just lol. You can choose to ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality. How well did "ancient knowledge" help those native americans who charged into gatling guns thinking their ancestral spirits would protect them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:37 AM
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If you believe that every woman would cheat for a man of sufficient "objective" value, that requires that there is at least one man who is never rejected and can have sex with every woman he desires. This is obviously nonsense. Pick up artists near-universally acknowledge that over 80% of "approaches" do not translate to sex. Most people are NOT cheaters. Population studies generally depict that about 20% of married people cheat and the rate is similar for both sexes. Female infidelity is a pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:56 AM
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I've spent lots of time among men in both groups (guys who get laid and guys who don't), and I'm not sure I could make a judgment, which is "more misogynistic." In each group, there is usually a range of attitudes towards women. Some are misogynists, most are not. The misogyny looks a little different, but I don't know if there's much of a correlation overall. Actually, re-reading this, I can't say I've ever heard actually heard anything close to that bad said, and I was super involved in greek …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 08:42 PM
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Yes. I'm saying that a state merely having nuclear weapons doesn't mean it's powerful. Japan is far more powerful and influential than North Korea, which despite being non-nuclear. You aren't responding to what I'm saying, you're responding to a caricature in your head of what you are told "people like me" say. What race are the Russians? Do you think I have a positive or negative view of Russia?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:02 PM
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So? Nuclear weapons generally serve a defensive purpose. They are fantastic at guaranteeing the security of a regime against foreign power. They are much less useful at coercing other states offensively. This is because the threat to go nuclear over something that doesn't pose an existential threat to a state isn't credible, and everyone knows this. Notice how the threat of nuclear weapons has succeeded in keeping the US from directly aiding Ukraine (which would invariably involve attacking targ…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:54 PM
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this person believes in anti-US propaganda that intentionally mischaracterizes the US political system. there is a two party system due to first past the post. candidates are chosen by primaries. not by party insiders.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:40 AM
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this person can't differentiate the ability to do evil from the inclination to do evil. his understanding of the world is based on anti-US propaganda that opportunistically casts the "adversaries" of the US as noble and righteous just because they are too weak to enact their agendas.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:38 AM
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evo psych makes no normative claims. evo psych tells us that murder serves an adaptive function when directed against intrasexual rivals. that doesn't mean its therefore okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:33 AM
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what does "preferentially polygnous" mean? My understanding is the majority of societies practiced both. Monogamy for most male, polygamy for the handful of highest-ranking males.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:32 AM
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Polygamy was practiced in most societies only for the very highest ranking males. Most people formed monogamous pair bonds.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 09:06 PM
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The "average" person is wired for serial monogamy. A small proportion are "wired" for lifelong monogamy and an even smaller proportion for varying degrees of polyamory. Some amount of sexual/relationship jealousy and some form of one man to one woman marriage is a cultural universal found in all known human societies worldwide. Of course the exact way these manifest vary by culture. But yes, overall, the vast majority of people have the innate reproductive strategy of "Find the best partner you …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 09:04 PM
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You will not find a secular woman who is physically attractive yet voluntarily a virgin. Secular women do not get into the bizarre right-wing political ideologies that secular men get into that convince them to be voluntarily celibate. I have never encountered a socially conservative atheist woman. I'm a secular liberal hetero man. I remember being repulsed by the idea of sleeping with/dating a non-virgin woman while I was myself a virgin. It was insecurity. I lost my virginity, dated a number o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 06:51 AM
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Well I agree thats bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:39 PM
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Mental health issues are primarily caused by genetics or adult circumstances. Parenting has very little to do with it. Very common misconception based on Freudian theorizing that modern science is correcting. https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/200809/the-50-0-50-rule-why-parenting-has-virtually-no-effect
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 08:18 PM
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Yeah. I have enough humility to understand that when liars exist in the world, it's incredibly selfish to demand that people just trust me. If this scenario happened and they wanted DNA from all the men in the area, I'd provide it, and I'd view any man who refused not necessarily as a rapist but as a selfish and prideful piece of shit who put their own feelings above justice for victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:58 AM
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Completely agree. Opposition to it is largely just a failure to empathize with the point of view of people of the opposite sex. Like men who think sexual harassment is no big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:50 AM
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Our society should put more focus and emphasis on children and childrearing. I don't think everyone should be forced or pressured into having children, but everyone should recognize that they might be inconveniced by the needs of children, but thats a price they have to pay to live in a society with other people. The "childfree" people who hate children and cheer on the collapse of birth rates are some of the most narcissistic and nihilistic people I've ever met. The contemporary west is basical…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:30 AM
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Oh I agree I meant birth rates are below replacement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:22 AM
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In the past, the weak would just die. You aren't soft because of modernity. You only exist at all because of modernity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:16 AM
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I'm not anti red pill because I'm anti-systematizing, I'm anti red pill because its just schizo nonsense poorly supported by empirical evidence that's more or less just astrology for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:14 AM
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Where did you hear that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:13 AM
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2.1 children per woman would be an increase
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:12 AM
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Never heard someone articulate this better. Nice. Also do children haters realize they were children once? Do you really want to live in a society where everyone hates children?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:11 AM
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Yes I'm turned off by excessively agreeable people
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:19 AM
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This is not a women thing. It's human nature in general. Introspection is an incredibly unreliable source of information. Peoples beliefs about their own motivations are almost always invented self-serving ego defense. People don't think and then act, they act and then rationalize. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introspection_illusion
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:07 AM
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I'm a feminist, but not a libertarian. I support a universal draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 01:23 AM
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I guess if your balding, that's another story. I see lots of autistic men with full heads of hair but who keep it long and greasy, and its very off-putting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:48 PM
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Completely agree. Just be consistent in which pair you use.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:18 AM
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Are you sure you have cause and effect in the correct order?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:35 AM
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Looks are heavily, heavily controllable. You probably aren't as ugly as you think, but because you are neurodivergent you don't know how to make yourself look good to other people. Almost all the autistic men I know who struggle with dating had disasterous hair, skin, or bodies or dressed badly. All four of those are highly controllable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:31 AM
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Rome wasn't built in a day but neither did it collapse in a day. It took hundreds of years of decline for Rome to go from its peak of power and influence to its total collapse. Generation after generation was born, lived, and died in an empire that was "in decline" while still a military, economic, and cultural juggernaut. People still can't even agree on whether or not the US/western world is in decline and if so, when it started. People who espouse the "US is in decline" theory usually point t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:47 AM
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Lol this is such terrible advice. "One sided friendships" are not a gender specific thing at all. I've had both men and women friends try to take advantage of me at varying points. In both cases, I've dropped them as friends when the pattern became clear. If you are keeping a female friend around who is clearly using you just because you secretly want to sleep with her, thats on you. "Don't socialize with women" is like the worst advice you could give unsuccessful young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:08 AM
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This stuff is super easy to find. Accidently coming to the wrong conclusion on this would be like coming to the wrong conclusion on whether cheetahs are mammals or reptiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:56 AM
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I don't know why its so hard for people to clearly state this when they talk about body positivity. You aren't being asked to change who you are or are not attracted to. You are being asked to change your behavior towards the people you don't find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:54 AM
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"Why would an older man want to date a younger woman?" is a rhetorical question. People who ask it know exactly what the answer is, they just don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:51 AM
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Depends on your social circles. Obesity is heavily linked to class.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:34 AM
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You weren't actually "doing well" with her. She was looking for an out, and you didn't notice or care. When she actually does like you, her friends 9/10 times will vanish
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 06:08 AM
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The ideal way is to have a large and varied social circle and to date people on the periphery of it. People close enough that its not a "cold approach" and you can ask around about their reputation but not so close that a breakup would threaten your established friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 07:50 AM
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Dark triad traits make people initially more charming and popular, but this wears off fast. In the long run, dark triad people have much worse social outcomes than healthy people. Either way, trying to consciously "become dark triad" makes no sense because these traits are largely unchangeable and genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 07:12 AM
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You can't, really. Personality is largely genetic and immutable. "Working on your personality" should be replaced as a phrase with "setting better habits".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 07:10 AM
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"Female inuition" doesn't have to be perfect to have any value. I don't think anyone claims it is perfect. If they do, they would be wrong. But not as wrong as someone who claims its worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 07:08 AM
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Just because intuition isn't perfect doesn't mean its useless. Normal pro-social people have been in an evolutionary arms race from the beginning with psychopathic exploiters. They evolve to become better at decieving us into relations of trust with them, and we evolve to become better at sniffing them out. Peoples "intuition" thus does have some utility in keeping them safe. Of course we can use our rationality to become consciously better at it, but its a good baseline. OP just looking for ano…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:40 AM
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Yeah you are going to get rolled by the commune next door that produces to excess and values strength and power over peace and generosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:28 AM
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In a pre-industrial society with massive mortality rates, giving my people personal freedom would not be a high priority. In order, I would focus on rule of law (a constitution, courts, and police), public health, military strength (not for expansion but to dissuade outside aggression), technological advancement (focused towards rapid industrialization), and productivity (of whatever good we have a comparative advantage of) for export. I actually would not change that much. Western civilization …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:23 AM
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Read (popular mainstream) books and talk to (popular mainstream) people. Spend less time on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:20 AM
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the dual mating strategy theory has been rejected by the psychologist who first formulated it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:18 AM
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Because those are somewhat gendered insults in the first place. A low status woman is "ugly" or "a slut". A low status man is "useless" or "a loser". When have you ever heard someone call a woman "a loser"? (In general reference to her life situation, not at a specific contest)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:16 AM
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lol at humble bragging to strangers on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:11 AM
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literally no true scotsman
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:10 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:09 AM
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Obesity has made men equally unattractive, but most of us just don't think to notice it. Guys who think that having a dad bod is no big deal are dead wrong. You have no idea how much you are leaving on the table by not dieting down to a low bf%. One of my less publicly palatable opinions is that a huge portion of the population is too fat and it is hugely detrimental to their health and appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:08 AM
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This is a huge part of the message that young men need to hear. Every person, man or woman, has an equal inherent value independent of how hot they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:03 AM
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Really? Do men actually care more about the problems that average women face than vice versa? Or do they just care long enough to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:01 AM
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No. They are "militant and unforgiving" because women face a huge burden from pregnancy and so evolved to be hyper-aware of problems in their mate. (Especially signs that he will not stick around)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 05:59 AM
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That is not the reason smart people don't have kids. Its just a ridiculous and self-serving post hoc justification. Not surprising you hear it endlessly on reddit from people who can't distinguish people's stated rationalizations from the actual drivers of their behavior. Smart people have more money and more of the career and life opportunities that they would have to sacrifice or put on hold by having kids than less smart people. A person who in school until they are 26 is going to have fewer …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 05:51 AM
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"I want the state to forcibly commandeer womens bodies to push my weird political agenda" Why don't we start by fixing all the environmental issues that bring down population IQ like toxins, neonatal nutrition, and stable early home environments first before we start thinking about eugenics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 05:46 AM
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A friend of mine who does very well with women literally uses just that as his opening line. When your approaching women in a bar or club whether or not they will be receptive to you is almost entirely based on your appearance and even moreso their own availability. What you say doesn't really matter that much
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:34 AM
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Sexually desiring anything is hedonistic. Thats like the definition of the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:24 AM
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Do you think that people who swallow a handful of acetaminophen pills are just as sure on every level that it will end their life as people who put a gun up to their temple?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:22 AM
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Yeah? And virulently anti-white rhetoric has been present since the start of abolition through to the civil rights movement through to black lives matter today. People act like the civil rights movement was all peace and kumbaya totally unlike BLM today! but there was actually tons of "kill whitey" shit present then too. Is that bad? Yeah. Is it as bad as the oppression the whole group experiences? Of course not. Just because some oppressed people develop an unjustifiable and destructive hatred …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:12 AM
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Young men are far more pro-feminism than old men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:05 AM
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I don't think the main societal narrative can be categorized as either "feminism" or "red pill".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:01 AM
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Really who is asking men to change their standards of attractiveness? Most of the dialogue I hear on the issue is telling women not to base their self worth on whether or not men find them attractive. This is positive. I also think our culture should encourage men not to base their self worth on whether or not women find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:59 AM
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Sexually successful men have more positive views of women, empirically. One major blow to the red pill worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:57 AM
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Lol at thinking the tens of millions of german and russian teenagers who died in eastern europe in ww2 were engaging in "voluntary risky behavior"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:55 AM
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Change your view? Okay. Harry Styles is the Ultimate Example of Why the Blue Pill is Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 08:51 AM
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You become "creepy" when either the context is inappropriate or you don't take "no" for an answer. Thats it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 08:31 AM
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Fun fact: both men and women place a negative value on female promiscuity. Women also place a negative value on male promiscuity, but men for some fucking reason put a positive value on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 08:20 AM
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Confirmed. I work at a bar. I have no issues at all meeting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 08:18 AM
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Why would I go overseas and pick a life partner with a completely different upbringing and culture than me? Sounds alienating and lonely. I'm just fine with "western women". I don't want a "traditional woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 08:17 AM
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Agreed. I'm pro "men going to therapy" but I don't think its one size fits all advice, and I think men shouldn't do it just because women tell them to. Theres this weird idea now that people who have no mental illness and have good and healthy coping mechanisms for their problems still need to "go to therapy!" for some fucking reason. No!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 09:42 PM
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m i s o g n y
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 09:39 PM
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Like the worst analogy I've ever seen lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 09:38 PM
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No, it isn't. Having uncommitted sex when you are younger does not mean you will cheat in a committed relationship. What an absurd comparison. Sex offenders are harmful criminals. Consensual casual sex is victimless. I've had casual sex. Does that mean I could never be a faithful husband? Or is it only women we apply this bullshit to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 09:38 PM
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"Go to therapy" is one of the biggest circlejerks on the internet and popular culture right now. I don't believe all therapy is bad or pointless, not even close, but "go to therapy!" is a dramatically misleading oversimplification that ignores so many crucial things. Not all therapy is the same! There are tons of different kinds of therapy for different situations and ailments. Just like drugs, some people respond better to some therapies and don't respond better to others. Not all therapists ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:35 AM
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seeing an athlete (in college) rn and she fits that description
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:17 AM
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Pretty sure castrated men still work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:14 AM
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I would not reject Mrs Perfect just because she had a high body count but I probably would reject her because she's married.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:11 AM
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Do you think it's possible to just tell men to have lower sex drives? Do you think that's how humans work? That we can solve pathological thoughts just by telling people they should stop having them? Go into a mental hospital and tell all the suicidally depressed patients to stop being depressed. Do you think that would help them? Obviously, you can't do this. What you can do is tell men that even though they have high sex drives, they do not have the right to act in ways that harm others. And b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:09 AM
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Explaining someones behavior does not mean excusing or condoning it. If I say the statement "hitler orchestrated the holocaust because he hated jews" that doesn't mean I think the holocaust was a good thing or that hitler wasn't responsible for his action Likewise, if I say "men commit more sexual assault than women because they have higher sex drives" that does not mean I think sexual assault is a good thing or that men who do it aren't responsible for their actions What on earth is so difficul…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:04 AM
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Yeah. That proves his point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:01 AM
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Obesity rates in men and women are similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:56 PM
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Its bs cope. Women at all ages prefer men their age to a couple years older. The average 21 year old womans dating range is 21-26. Women who prefer men decades older than them are super uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:35 AM
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You'd rather have the taxpayers covering for deadbeat dads?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:30 AM
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The male equivalent to "backpacking through europe as an excuse to fuck a lot of foreign guys you meet at bars and clubs" is not "going to thailand to fuck impoverished trafficked underage prostitutes" its "backpacking through europe as an excuse to fuck a lot of foreign girls you meet at bars and clubs". Literally, no one cares if a young man does that. They'll cheer him on the same way they do his female counterpart.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:26 AM
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I see no evidence at all that men en masse are higher value than their woman counterparts and therefore will need to "settle". I don't really see much evidence the other way either. Men and women basically deserve each other. (Not meant to exclude gays, to clarify)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:22 AM
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Are the side effects "inevitably happens to everyone who takes it?" or "possibly could happen to some?" "Side effects" typically means the 2nd and if so I'm still totally on board.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:08 AM
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This is not true at all. Women in my experience discussing dating with them as platonic friends admit to be very pragmatic, significantly moreso than men. I dont think the difference is huge though. There are plenty of hopeless romantic women and plenty of "get the best deal possible" men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:06 AM
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"meth addict" is a super broad term. if shes high functioning and stable, this is basically the same as being on an adderall prescription.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 09:04 AM
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Mostly? High agreeableness. That's like 75% of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:55 AM
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Well my view is informed by actual research on climate change, nuclear war, asteroid impacts, supervolcanos, pandemics, etc and not just a "gut feeling" or cynical desire for contrarianism at any cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 11:01 AM
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the two are strongly related but the relationship is not causal
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:59 AM
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Men are inherently more violent. Its not social conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:58 AM
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Women have a hard cap on how many offspring they can have so taking risks is not incentivized.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:57 AM
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The hegemony of white people is drawing to a close but the hegemony of western culture just gets stronger and stronger by the year.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:57 AM
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By the standards of world history, the US is like the most meritocratic society to ever exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:55 AM
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One of the first things women want to know about a prospective mate is their height. I have both male and female friends, and I promise you the women talk about male height (at least in a romantic/sexual context) more than the men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:53 AM
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Almost all the most significant people were men, but at the same time, almost all the men were insignificant. Just pawns in some more powerful and interesting mans war machine or economic scheme.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:51 AM
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Don't think I've ever heard a woman use the word "misandrist."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:41 AM
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And it wasn't obvious they were being facetious? And you never heard women talking about their desire for "hot guys"? Idk what to say. I am far from neurotypical, but even by 15/16 this was all apparent to me. I think your bigger problem is social skills deficits in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:39 AM
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I'm really curious where you guys got the message that "looks didn't matter." I grew up in a left-wing feminist family, and I can't recall ever being told that. Honestly my parents didn't really give me much advice one way or another, but I learned from popular media and observing real life that looks are very important very fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:32 AM
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America is more feminist than Poland, yes. But more feminist than the UK, France, or Germany? Not so sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:30 AM
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"I don't think humanity will literally go extinct soon" isn't exactly "optimism."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:25 AM
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Remember, most men are not obsessive misogynists and have similar dreams, feelings, and problems that you do. This is similar to young men finding the most spiteful "feminist" diatribes on the internet and deciding that, therefore, all women are manipulative man haters.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:24 AM
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I only really hear people say this as a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:22 AM
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Science alone can't tell you how to behave. It tells you what the effects of your behavior are likely to be, but it can never tell you whether those effects are desirable or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:21 AM
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A paranoid incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:20 AM
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Having multiple FWB's at the same time? Wouldn't say it's common, but it's not at all rare. I've been involved in college greek life and now work security at a high volume college bar, so I have a pretty good idea of how these things go. A good portion of attractive/high status guys in the party scene are in this position. Having a detailed transparent scheme where all the women know each other and "schedule themselves"? Thats super rare. Maybe for celebrities or pro athletes. Good chance this g…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:15 AM
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Humans are not going extinct any time soon. Even if modern industrial societies dwindle and dwindle from lack of reproduction, there will still be large pockets of people who intentionally produce enough kids to keep the species going. Also, there is no plausible natural or man made disaster powerful enough to exterminate humanity through killing everyone. It would take something like a 50 mile diameter asteroid impact or a very nearby direct hit from a gamma ray burst to do it. Nuclear war or r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:07 AM
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Really? I'm pretty sure wealthy capitalists and world governme ts pay psychologists informed by evolutionary theories to figure out how to manipulate people for their own benefit. No intelligent person believes in real free will.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:02 AM
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Everyone acknowledges that its a complex interaction of both, but the genetic side is very frequently underestimated. Lets take "racism" as an example, as a mix of a genetic and learned behavior. The tendancy toward racism is genetic. Humans inherently have a strong in group bias and in a complex variety of ways are prone to separating out an "out group" and negatively stereotyping them. This was most likely a product of kin selection. (If I can't pass my genes on myself, I should help someone e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:00 AM
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because they want to believe their own lies
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 10:23 AM
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Women prefer men a couple of years older, not decades older.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 09:41 AM
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Like ~80% of "ugly" people of both sexes could make themselves straight up attractive if they fixed their hair, skin, and clothes and worked out enough to get lean and build some muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 09:38 AM
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Its true if "emotional skills" means "understanding others emotions" but its not true if "emotional skills" means "placing others well being ahead of your own". I suspect that the studies these are based on meant the former but the popular article try to invoke the latter, because it supports the just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 08:27 AM
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Single men have the worst life outcomes of any group. A small number of men are single because they can have uncommitted sex with multiple women, but most men are single because they cannot attract any women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 08:26 AM
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Stupid advice. "The fox couldn't reach the grapes, so they must be sour!"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 08:24 AM
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Men AND women desire self-esteem (mostly through social validation) more than anything else. It's what makes humans human and different from animals. Animals exclusively want food, sex, and safety, but humans will sacrifice any and all of those in favor of self-esteem granted through adherence to symbolic worldviews. The desire for self-esteem is NOT entirely instinctual. It's a defense against the massive anxiety produced by our awareness of our physical limitations and our inevitable death. A …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 08:51 AM
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The less political, the more successful. I don't really think there's much of a correlation beyond that. Of course, people on both sides of the political spectrum are going to come up with self-serving arguments to explain why men on their side are more attractive. If I had to parse it further, I'd say centrist men > center right > center left > far left > far right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:13 AM
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Anyone who says "drunk people can't consent to sex so its rape" are just revealing their total ignorance of both the law and everyday common sense social awareness. If drunk sex was rape, like every single college student would be a rapist. (Which to be fair, maybe some people believe, but at this point, you're devaluing the horror that actual rape is) You can be really drunk and still consent to sex. You might regret it the next day, and it might be wrong for someone else to have sex with you k…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:45 PM
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Are your social skills at least average?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 07:51 AM
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Yes they do. Average IQ for people with down syndrome is <70 and a certain amount of intelligence is required for making correct social judgements.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 07:43 AM
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Tough choice. Assuming my brain changes so I am comfortable with my identity, I might honestly choose to become a woman. Longer lifespan, less risk of almost every disease, less risk of violence, and more positive reception in almost all social situations. Not that being male doesn't have its own advantages. I don't really want to give up the size and strength, nor do I want to deal with misogyny from men with regressive values.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 07:38 AM
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Are you neurotypical?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 07:34 AM
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Northern Europeans (either in situ or in the US/anglosphere) are the wealthiest people on the planet with the most time for leisure, exercise, and self-care, so this isn't surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 07:34 AM
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Truth. A rich and powerful man who is also young and hot is going to be much more attractive than an aging man. The red pill idea that men somehow benefit from aging itself is completely wrong and based on fantasy. Men have the advantage of being punished somewhat less harshly than women for aging, but it's still a negative. Older men can stay attractive, but they are attractive in spite of being older, not because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 08:03 AM
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Not really. It's pretty easy to make friends with women. Once you communicate your intent (and its believed), most women are more than happy to be platonic friends with a man who isn't creepy, and will actually put way more effort into being friends than men will. I have more female friends than male friends and often find women to be easier to hang out with. This is a combination of my dislike of the implicit status jockeying that goes on in male social interaction and my more feminine interact…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:51 AM
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I don't think the reason men are less afraid of crime than women is because boys shove each other on the schoolyard.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 10:17 AM
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Almost never lol. I think I remember Camille Paglia arguing that the most attractive men have an element of femininity in their personality and the most attractive women have an element of masculinity in theirs. People are fundamentally narcissistic and like seeing their traits in their partner. (To some extent obviously)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 09:45 AM
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Men are less anxious about crime and violence, not because they are at lower risk than women but because they value their safety less. (A combination of biology and socialization)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 09:41 AM
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Easier! You learn what you like and can communicate it easily. "Sluts" are a thousand times "easier to please" than virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 09:39 AM
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I think the men in here are downplaying the role that "shit tests" play in male-male social interactions. Most men shit test each other routinely to implicitly differentiate their places in the social hierarchy. It's not girls who bully the "sissy" or "queer" boy on the playground. Its the other boys, for being insufficiently masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 09:01 AM
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Second
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 07:07 AM
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That's what most people are. Introversion-extraversion is roughly normally distributed with most people in the middle and fewer as you approach the extremes. It is not a binary.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 11:13 AM
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High openness to experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 10:44 AM
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No, that's not what it is. Even under your formulation, it really is "I don't want to pay the cost of my body/my resources so that you can propagate your genetics at this moment in time." There's nothing there about thinking . No one else should propagate your genetics ever. "I dont want to hire you right now" doesn't mean "I dont think anyone should hire you ever."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 10:10 AM
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The replacement of partners/kids with pets is a sign of mental and societal sickness. Agree there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:50 AM
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First number: men Second number: women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 10:41 PM
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The only real thing I'd do differently is push my sons much harder towards team sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 11:19 AM
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No one wants to confront the brutal unfairness of life in any arena
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 11:14 AM
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No, because if they were so unattractive or deformed that I'd be concerned about our "genetic legacy" it would be impossible to hide via plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 10:59 AM
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What worked for me is realizing that 99.9% of people are anonymous mediocre trash with no accomplishments, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 10:43 AM
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Develop charisma. Way better ROI for social status than lifting lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 10:41 AM
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I'm a bouncer at a popular college bar in the northeast, ratios average around 1.5 to 1, but range from 3:1 or 4:1 at 2am on a saturday night to 1:2 at 4 PM on a saturday when the schools football team is playing. If anything, the clubs I've been to in big cities are more male-heavy. I don't think I've been in a packed bar that was an irredeemable "sausagefest," tho, I assume people leave before it gets to that point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 10:34 AM
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True for terminally online losers. Most healthy people in the real world still despise victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 10:30 AM
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Masculine women and feminine men have existed since the dawn of time, hardly the "victims of woke brainwashing." More often the "victims of societal hatred"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 10:28 AM
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Terrible fucking advice for poorly socialized men. Almost all sexually successful men in the real world have numerous female friends. I don't know how you would even be "high status" without actually having a lot of friends, many of which will be women lol. But this is the manosphere, where everyones a lone wolf sigma male who is somehow effortlessly cool and attractive while never leaving their house and having no friends. That archetype is an invention of fiction. Its wishful thinking for intr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 11:52 AM
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just tax childless people lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 11:24 PM
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drink (non-diet) soda. ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 10:47 AM
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A huge number of therapists don't actually practice evidence-based methods. Some are actual medical practitioners, others are quacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 07:17 PM
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Really? You'd prefer an arranged marriage for purely political reasons to someone you've never met?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 06:49 PM
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Define "souls"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 06:43 PM
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Did women fight wars prior to capitalism?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:41 AM
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"the russian war machine"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:41 AM
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false
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:24 AM
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I wish people would use the term "yellow flags" to distinguish between warning signs and disqualifiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 10:25 AM
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If you really believe theres zero correlation here your wrong. End of discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 10:22 AM
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Emotional intelligence is not the same as moral sense. Lots of people are extremely emotionally intelligent but also cruel and exploitive, and lots of others who lack emotional intelligence are kind and generous. Emotional intelligence is good insofar as it makes a person more powerful. It does not guarantee a person will be moral anymore than non-emotional intelligence does. (Side note: emotional intelligence is extremely poorly defined and isn't nearly as real a thing as "non-emotional intelli…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 10:20 AM
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Humans have an innate tendency to remember the past as being better than it was and to focus on the negatives of the present instead of the positives. People who think the world is about to end don't remember the massive social divisions of the 60's and 70's or the constant threat of global nuclear holocaust during the Cold War. Global disease, war, and poverty are at an all-time record low and continue to decline. Obviously, if you continue predicting disaster forever, you'll eventually be righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 12:36 AM
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Congrats, your an intelligent person who can see past our pessimism bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 12:31 AM
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Yeah, no serious researcher is going to try to look for genetic links to peoples self-reported thoughts. Biology deals in animal behavior, not animal opinions. Science can also never "prove something as a fact." Science assesses evidence against a null hypothesis. In this case, the null hypothesis, which you espoused until just now, is that genetics play no role in peoples decision to forgo reproduction. There is substantial evidence against this. (Perhaps not yet to a 95% confidence level on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 11:33 PM
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"the only"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:02 PM
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I hate that misconception! Evolution occurs at the level of genes, not "the species." People are so wired toward understanding the world in terms of agents and intentions that we have a really hard time with blind mechanistic processes like evolution, so we rephrase it in teleological terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:59 PM
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The bigger issue is that it takes place on much longer time frames than OP suggests. Maybe the tendancy to have no kids will be selected out of the population, but that will take thousands of years at a minimum and making a prediction that far out given the evolution of technology and society is extremely questionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 07:38 PM
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https://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-01-genetic-link-children-grandchildren.html
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:42 AM
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https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jun/03/genetics-plays-role-in-deciding-at-what-age-women-have-first-child-says-study but theres no way genes play a role in deciding whether women have any kids in the first place. (This was based on a five second google search, but I'm happy to dig for scholarly articles if your ideology demands you be obstinate in the face of conflicting evidence)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:41 AM
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Lol at anarcho capitalist types who profess a belief in ethical egoism but then get pale in the face when other people realize its in their rational self interest to kill them and take their shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:39 AM
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Pedantic and trivial. Of course there's no single gene for any complex behavior, but that doesn't mean there isn't a huge genetic influence on any such behavior. Ever looked into identicial twin studies? Genetics has a massive effect on our behaviors and all sorts of specific behaviors that seem totally environmental have been found to have genetic links.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:35 AM
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Idk, in a lot of ways 2023 is radically different from 1923, but in many ways it isn't thaaat different. I suspect that there will be new technologies by 2123 that utterly transform our lives in some respects, but in others people will live in much the same way we do today.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:27 AM
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Evolution is imperfect. We enjoy sex because it leads to kids, but we engage in a constant struggle to separate the two to get the evolutionary reward without the consequence. Like artificial sweeteners.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:24 AM
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"I dont understand cause and effect"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:22 AM
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Not how nature works. The world isn't overpopulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:21 AM
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The world is the best it has ever been and is only getting better, but people are having the fewest kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:21 AM
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Its a proxy for socioeconomic status and to a lesser extent IQ and conscientiousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:27 AM
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Yeah, you're not a serious person. Debate over.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 12:18 AM
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An essentialist theory because men and women are biologically different. She has not been "vindicated". Evidence of cultural universals including warfare and patriarchy continues to accumulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 02:18 PM
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They've found weapons and skeletons suggesting violent death prior to the "steppe barbarian invasion" https://books.google.com/books/about/Warfare_in_Neolithic_Europe.html?id=0_m3AQAACAAJ I don't know why you are so hung up on a discredited decades old theory and so unfamiliar with contempotary views.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 02:17 PM
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"A belief that women's rule preceded men's rule was, according to Haviland, "held by many nineteenth-century intellectuals".[4] The hypothesis survived into the 20th century and was notably advanced in the context of feminism and especially second-wave feminism, but the hypothesis is mostly discredited today, most experts saying that it was never true." -wikipedia article on matriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 02:14 PM
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There never was a "peaceful commune". Humans at every level of social development wage war. Chimpanzees wage war. Put down the 19th century armchair theorizing and pick up an ethology textbook
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 01:53 PM
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Basic stuff, thats now outdated. A ten second search reveals that Gimbutas is considered to be a second rate thinker outside of the mainstream consensus of anthropology, which holds that there are no known matriarchal societies. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Matriarchal_Prehistory The beliefs people had in the 19th century about prehistory were often wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 01:47 PM
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Again, matriarchy means "a society where political and economic power is held by women". When most people claim ancient societies were matriarchal, what they really mean is that women were respected or venerated or that names/property were inherited through the mother, but this is not a matriarchy! A society can culturally and religiously elevate women and the feminine while still denying them actual political power. There has never been a society anywhere where women made the political economic…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:28 PM
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Nope, that was a story invented in the mid 20th century. Look at citations 59, 60, and 61 on the wikipedia article about matriarchy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matriarchy Also: Neolithic farmers definitely werent matriarchal The vast majority of early cultures had a female Earth diety I don't even know what that last sentence means, either you are making things up (chariots werent heavily used in Europe and no one "brought" patriarchy) or you are schizophrenic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:25 PM
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*always
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:06 PM
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In which society did women make the political, economic, and military decisions? "Taking your mothers name" or "living with your mothers family" does not a matriarchy make.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:50 PM
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There is no known society anywhere at any time that was unambiguously matriarchal. Hunter gatherers were patriarchal, agriculturalists were patriarchal, and pastoral nomads were patriarchal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:49 PM
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"less complex" hunter-gatherer societies were MORE violent than complex agricultural/industrial civilizations. Shockingly high proportions of hunter gatherer men died from deliberate violence. It was more dangerous to be an 18 year old male hunter-gatherer in 10,000 BCE than an 18 year old male Pole in 1939. The idea that there was a matriarchal proto-commmunist utopia at the beginning of history and that violence and war didn't come into being until there was wealth to fight over is wrong on ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:46 PM
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Still waiting for Kiev to fall in 72 hours
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:19 PM
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Troop losses are roughly equal. I dont know where you heard or came up with the 10:1 figure, but I suggest you think about it a little more and realize how laughably improbable it is. Ukraine is "destroyed" but Russia has seriously damaged itself in the process. And unlike Ukraine, they dont have rich friends prepared to bankroll their recovery.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:25 AM
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"Energy" is a specific concept in physics. When new age people refer to "energy" they ascribe properties to it that it does not have. They use the word "energy" as a sneaky motte and bailey to make their nonsense sound more legitimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 08:05 AM
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the government can prove these conspiracies to a group of 12 non mentally ill people beyond a reasonable doubt in a moderated forum against a well educated opposition "conspiracy theorists" are without exception unable to do this. there is no equivalence here except the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 08:03 AM
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capitalism's been "late stage" for like 200 years now
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 03:43 PM
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There was never a federal law requiring vaccines.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:04 AM
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"Man is free to act as he wills, but not to will what he wills" -Schopenhauer (I think)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 05:32 AM
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You are absolutely right. Saying that "the meaning of life" for humans or rabbits or beetles to reproduce is like saying "the meaning of life" for a planet is to orbit a star or "the meaning of life" for an electron is to move towards positive charge. "meaning" and "purpose" are constructs of human language. they don't refer to anything that actually exists in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 05:25 AM
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"There are two kinds of people in the free will debate: determinists, and those who don't understand what the debate is over".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 04:51 AM
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On a similar note: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliminative_materialism People often speculate about what today's flat earth theory is, i.e., what commonly held view now will later be disproven by the advancement of science. I think the existence of most mental states is a good candidate for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:07 PM
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"The introspection illusion is a cognitive bias in which people wrongly think they have direct insight into the origins of their mental states, while treating others' introspections as unreliable. The illusion has been examined in psychological experiments, and suggested as a basis for biases in how people compare themselves to others. These experiments have been interpreted as suggesting that, rather than offering direct access to the processes underlying mental states, introspection is a proce…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:19 AM
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Chimpanzees don't have any concept of anything. Language is a prerequisite for conceptual thinking. But that returns us to semantics. Are we talking about gender itself, or the conceptual understanding of gender? If its the second, by definition, its socially constructed. What we do know is that our closest evolutionary cousins show strong behavioral differences and according social roles between males and females, not solely attributable to socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:42 PM
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"The role of biological and social influences on sex differences in human child development is a persistent topic of discussion and debate. Given their many similarities to humans, chimpanzees are an important study species for understanding the biological and evolutionary roots of sex differences in human development. In this study, we present the most detailed analyses of wild chimpanzee infant development to date, encompassing data from 40 infants from the long-term study of chimpanzees at Go…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:54 PM
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Pre-civilization humans and higher primates don't exhibit gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:05 PM
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Yes, and no. There are an assortment of measurable traits that are distributed in a more or less bimodal distribution across the population that correlate with each other to varying degrees. This is an obvious and measurable fact. If you plotted "number of penises" for a population, you'd see a (near) perfectly bimodal distribution with peaks at 0 and 1. Similarly, but much more roughly, if you were to plot traits like "height" or "visual reasoning ability" you'd find that they also are somewhat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:59 AM
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What findings, if they could be presented to you, would you concede as strong evidence that gender is not a social construct? Seems to me its more of an issue of semantics than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:36 AM
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brain=body. thoughts and feelings are purely physical in the same way contracting muscle or flowing blood is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:31 AM
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Sociologists are not scientists lol. Science involves making falsifiable predictions about the natural world. Sociological theories do not make falsifiable predictions. Sociologists are not scientists. Social science has its place, but when the findings of sociology or economics diverge from those of biology or physics they should be immediately discarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:30 AM
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climate change denial for leftists
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:21 AM
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I'm a blue pill feminist. The one thing I agree with the red pill on is the favoring of biological over sociological explanations for human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 08:36 AM
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Fun fact that's a little thorn in the side of anti-natalists and the pro-death crowd: the majority of people enjoy their lives and feel their lives are worth living. Even people in dire poverty. Even the mentally ill. Even the abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 08:24 AM
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2022 still believing in peak oil I don't disagree much wrt to limits to growth. I just disagree on exactly how it will play out. Middle class and up people in western countries will be just fine. Someone is going to be getting the limited resources, and it will be them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 08:22 AM
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I agree. Sanction China. The Chinese genocide of the Ugyhurs is absolutely abhorrent and the west needs to take a much stronger stance against it. I'm optimistic that Russia's international pariah status puts authoritarian regimes everywhere on shakier ground. China of course is the largest and most dangerous authoritarian regime in the world. But if you actually think what China is doing is even close to as bad as the holocaust, I reiterate that you should touch up on history. Nazi Germany syst…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 08:51 PM
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read some history. the past is absolutely unbelievably monstrous. the violence now doesn't hold a candle to what the world experienced during world war two, world war one, the napoleonic wars, the tiapaing rebellion, the mongol conquests, the conquests of tamerlane, the fall of rome, the thirty years war, the coolonization of Africa, the crusades, and on, and on and on. Total deaths from armed conflict have been in precipitous decline since 1945. I don't disagree that those are massive problems.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 08:37 PM
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I partially agree with you. Not all evolutionary psychology is the same. red pillers almost universally have no actual education in it and just make up pseudoscientific post hoc justifications for their preconceived bigoted beliefs. I also adamantly maintain that evolutionary and biological explanations for human behavior have far more explanatory and predictive power than (generally left wing) academics/activists like to admit. Besides "rationality" and "forethought" are most epiphenomenal just…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 07:42 PM
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Regulated? Don't you mean repressed? Liberalism and modernity >>> religion and traditionalism The world is richer, freer, and more peaceful now that any point in the past. It's objectively better in just about every way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 07:32 PM
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lol if you think people didn't have premarital sex in the 1950's
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 07:29 PM
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might as well be talking about astrology
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 07:28 PM
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Wait until you guys learn that men benefit from marriage MORE (happiness, longevity, etc.) than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 07:27 PM
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DIsagree. The obsession with evolutionary psychology is the one thing the red pill gets right
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 07:26 PM
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I like to say it because it sounds like a conspiracy to people who don't actually know anything about politics or history.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:58 AM
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Nuclear energy is the real science-backed solution to climate change, pollution, and energy security. If we had mass adopted it 70 years ago, none of these problems would exist. Instead we fell for the usual fallacy of thinking a danger was much greater simply because it was exotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 07:30 AM
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There are virtually no credentialed climatologists without ties to oil and gas who wholly reject the scientific consensus. The supposed falliability of science is greatly exaggerated by those with a political interest against it. Most of the examples of "dead wrong majority opinions" either predate the modern era of scientific rigor (geocentrism) or were never actually the majority position ("global cooling" in the 1970s). Once strong evidence was produced, the consensus in almost all cases rapi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 06:16 AM
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no one in the US is doing any fighting
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 03:29 AM
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Thank you for the clarification. I painted with too broad a brush.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 03:05 AM
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you deny that climate change is politicized and rejection of the scientific consensus correlates strongly with a number of other identifiable positions? none of this is "faith". faith is belief without evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:59 AM
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Lol at the redpill tradcons praising Russia and revealing themselves as the 5th column they are. The response from the free world to Putins aggression has been overwhelming. Even China is distancing themselves from him. I'm sure their designs on Taiwan have been pushed back decades. The collapse of the liberal world order has been greatly exaggerated. Hilarious that liberal democracies are not only freer than Russia and China, they are richer and stronger as well. Authoritarianism is a losers ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:49 AM
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Since when is believing on the basis of evidence "faith"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:44 AM
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whether or not you take it as fact, it is true. Its absurd that physical science has been politicized like this. its never good for society when large segments of the population become disconnected from material reality like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:43 AM
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stratospheric cooling is only explainable if the warming is caused primarily by greenhouse gases and not any other source.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:40 AM
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yes we do. carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. increased emissions=warming planet. not complicated. stratospheric cooling is proof that greenhouse gases are the main driver of the warming troposphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:39 AM
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warming is caused by humans but will not be the doomsday of our species. scientific facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:38 AM
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only very briefly, overall trend is dramatically upward.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:38 AM
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its true whether or not you accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:37 AM
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Checks out. I've been lifting consistently for five years and weigh about ~210 at 6'0".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:40 AM
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No shit. The reality everyone across the political spectrum refuses to acknowledge is that the real oppressor is nature and biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:37 AM
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I'm fascinated by gender politics and despite the fact that I adamantly reject 99% of the "redpill" worldview I still find the debates here insightful considering how absurdly out of touch with reality academic gender studies is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:36 AM
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Hmmmm selfish gene theory is vindicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 07:02 AM
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you're conflating is and ought.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:03 PM
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False. "Species" are loosely defined constructs. Evolution happens at the gene level. Serving the "human species" is a sociological construct, not a biological one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 08:05 PM
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Try actually offering a reason wanton destruction benefits anyone, asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:36 PM
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Literally no one stands to benefiting from destroying the world. People in power act out of rational self-interest, not sociopathic sadism. Easy to believe conspiracy theories when you genuinely don't understand how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:02 AM
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Sounds like you just moved your position from "I'm right" to "It doesn't matter if I'm wrong lol"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:17 PM
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that's obviously true and completely besides the point
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:01 AM
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Because they are subject to the male gaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:57 AM
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Absolutely. You don't even have to do or say anything against the party. China is in the middle of attempting to "re-educate"(to put it mildly) millions of Uyghurs for the crime of not being Han Chinese.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:50 AM
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Liberal world order as opposed to illiberal countries like Fascist Russia or Communist China where you can be arrested and "re-educated" (or just killed) for having the wrong beliefs. Liberal norms are under attack right now from both sides but the threat from the populist right is dramatically greater, proven by their attempt to overturn a democratic election. There was no similar attempt by the left to overturn the 2016 election.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:48 AM
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Liberal world order=developed countries and their international institutions that are based on democracy, rule of law, limited government, and market economies. Remember, in most of the world a "Liberal" is a centrist. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_international_order The fact that you don't know this and your mind immediately jumps to absurd conspiracy theories just shows that you should probably reevaluate the media you consume.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:42 AM
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I think we're talking past each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:59 PM
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Nihilism gets you nowhere. Its not valid as a position or argument
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:58 PM
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You know I'm a broken record here but its worth repeating: You aren't obligated to be attracted to anyone. You are however obligated to be respectful to everyone regardless of whether you are attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:38 PM
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Women 100% use "virgin" as an insult incredibly casually. I've even seen it used to insult other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:35 PM
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You really think we're better off not existing? What about you? I hope you don't feel that way about yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:42 PM
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Fake news and racism okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:29 PM
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even if this is true (highly dubious overgeneralization), men don't exist to titilate you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:29 PM
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oh? what do you think it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:26 PM
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If by "human ego" you mean promoting human flourishing and minimizing human suffering, then sure, everything we do is because of "human ego". You still haven't provided an affirmative reason of why we shouldn't "continue".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:26 PM
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yeah cuz everyone knows men never engage in conspicuous consumption
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 08:29 PM
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then why do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 08:29 PM
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You still haven't connected that to population decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 08:21 PM
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sparky?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 08:21 PM
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Diet and exercise is easily enough to explain that. The claim about other countries banning those chemicals is patently false. People in developing countries are exposed to FAR MORE pollutants than westerners
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 08:20 PM
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