It does, women frequently complain when things don't go their way. It's indisputable they have the overwhelming advantage in dating; women are the sexual selectors. It's their choice who they date etc., so they need to take more responsibility for the outcomes of their choices.
bullshit. women initiate divorces ~70% of situtations. divorce rate is 50% women routinely (depending on the state) get custody in excess of 90% and men pay alimony in excess of 90% of times. prenuptials are routinely thrown out in court; the wife's lawyer only has to hint at 'duress'. women wouldn't do so if the motivation isn't there.
you haven't actually refuted his argument. you've just made a blanket statement that he doesn't know what he is talking about, without going into specifically WHY it's the case.
I've lost count of the number of times I've seen a women want someone a certain height on her dating account; I've never seen a man list a certain weight requirement.
Women never cease to amaze with their mental gymnastics. I have not assumed attractiveness is equally split, I've literally said the sexes perception of attractiveness is unbalanced.
Women give out plausibly deniable signals to protect their ego and their social reputation if things don't work out. This is well known. If it wasn't the case you wouldn't see hundreds of articles on 'how to read women's signals'.
Try this experiment: post a profile with false pics of a physical fit gym rat or a model. I've done it before and the level of interest from attractive women in meeting up for fun is night and day.
The issue is when women talk about men they are 'not attracted to', it inevitably gets into the relative valuation of the woman compared to the men she deems 'not attractive enough'. Studies show women rate 80% of men to be less an average attractiveness. Where men rate 50% of women to be less than average attractiveness. This also aligns with men's experiences dating. So it's the woman's lack of awareness of HOW they are perceiving attractiveness and whether a man is attractive enough for her, …
Agree with this. In my younger days studying in a European country, I hooked up with a woman who was on the cover of her country's edition of Vogue. A year prior to that in my home country, I was having a relationship of convenience with a chubby woman who stopped it so she could chase a MUCH older man whose listed hobbies were drinking, smoking and sleeping and had disgusting teeth and hair. Go figure.
Why they do is irrelevant to the point i'm making; the point is they do and so if I wanted to, i could take advantage of it and engage in shitty behaviour without consequences.
You're splitting hairs. a woman's looks are ~80% of her SMV, so for the purposes of illustrative discussion, rather than an academic dissertation put before a peer review committee, yes LOOKS equal SMV. Your hypothetical scenario misses the point. You're missing the analysis that women frequently run on their value relative to the value of the men they are dealing with, which is the crux of the issue OP is discussing: i.e., how women falsely perceive their value and evaluate their 'level'. The f…
Again, you're missing the point. No one is coming up with some formula to create some rule of dating that people must follow. What IS being pointed out is that over the journey, i.e., many experiences, women are frequently expecting men that are reasonably objectively of higher value as being 'on their level', while shunning men who are reasonably objectively on their level. People like to say things are subjective as a way to dance around the subject, but some things do have a degree of objecti…
This is correct. When an environment shifts, your expectations do also. When you can get more and their are no social or economic consequences from doing so, your standards increase and your behaviour becomes increasingly entitled and shitty. It's why men go crazy in places like Thailand and Bali. Literally unlimited numbers of attractive women on tap. I've gone global on dating apps to place my location there. If I actually lived there, I'd have time for nothing but sex and dating.
The numbers are true, but at the end of the day, as women are so fond of saying, "my body, my choice". Right? Women are the ultimate choosers because men have to make the moves. Women will choose what they deem to be the best option that puts itself forward. This gives women a false impression of their true value.
You're missing the issue. How are you defining your 'league'? Women frequently don't even realise themselves what they consider in their 'league'. Men's experience time and time again (As well as data from studies), demonstrably show women perceive their 'league' as actually those of same or higher value. Men generally consider their league as someone 'around' their value (i.e., a bit lower to a bit higher). Studies show that women find 80% of men unattractive, men only find 50% of women unattra…
you're almost there, but not quite. "Men are way hornier than women so of course on average women will have higher SMV." this is not quite correct. the average woman has more options, but it doesn't mean she has more value. the two are not quite linked. her INNATE, OBJECTIVE SMV is not necessarily higher. in fact, it speaks to men's biological willingness to have sex with women on a wider value scale ('spread their seed'). the rest of what you say is correct however.
Again, you're wrong. Firstly, I have not explicitly referenced 'looks' - please point out specifically where i have referenced 'looks'? Besides that, a woman's looks ARE her SMV. Please refute point by point where my analysis is flawed. in particular this section: "a '9/10' male will equally have sex with a '7/10' woman as a '9/10' woman, yet if the man was to see the two women side by side, he would be clearly making a judgement on the difference in the value of the two women, yet still would h…
Christ, women never cease to amaze with their failure to grasp logic. You've literally proven the point that women have an inflated market value: "Women seem to be okay with man-sharing as long as the man is of high market value, and women are okay with being single and even sexless if they don't gain access to high market value men. Women don't lower their standards to settle down for an average guy so the demand for these guys is abysmal." Facepalm.
Or maybe it's the only way to bring logic and rationality to a discussion? And maybe your statement is completely misrepresenting the purpose of it's use? Tell me, why is it 'absurd'?
Your analysis is good, the conclusion not quite. Women ARE going for men out of their league and women ARE going for men based on looks. Their is a divergence in the market as women increasingly split their dating/relationship approach. They will segment men into 'fling', 'sex' category much more often than in the past because there are no social or economic consequences from doing so.
no this is wrong. like what has been said above, a '9/10' male will equally have sex with a '7/10' woman as a '9/10' woman, yet if the man was to see the two women side by side, he would be clearly making a judgement on the difference in the value of the two women, yet still would have sex with both. put it another way, if a man had the two women standing in front of him and he had to choose just to have sex with ONE of the aforementioned women, he'd choose the 9. the 7 would get a very clear in…
Bullshit. Women frequently say they want men taller than 6 foot. Try as a man to say you prefer a women under 105 pounds and see how much shit you catch. Women label anything that isn't beneficial or points to the reality of dating dynamics as 'offensive'.
Agree with this. In my younger days studying in a European country, I hooked up with a woman who was on the cover of her country's edition of Vogue. A year prior to that in my home country, I was having a relationship of convenience with a chubby woman who stopped it so she could chase a MUCH older man whose listed hobbies were drinking, smoking and sleeping and had disgusting teeth and hair. Go figure.
here's the issue: you have no way of knowing who she truly is on first few meetings. as a man, after a while, you have heard all the bullshit excuses. so if it looks like a bullshit excuses, sounds like a bullshit excuse....you get the picture.
