and that black guy living in korea with his single mom wife and daughter Specialist-Action-33 the seawitch from romania who liked smoking and reading who i can't recall the username EqualSea
woman to step up to the plate that a bunch of the guys find attractive to be super active here, and get dudes to start acting normal here again Basically any woman who's young, single and doesn't have much dating history lol
These are just a bunch of performative males nothing more. Likes I've said before, it's always the white knights who are angrier than the women themselves because it's all just a performance. They're trying to pretend to be someone they're not.
That sub has a lot of creepy old men trying to get attention from women half their age. If I remember correctly, one of their mods was caught grooming a girl.
Girlfriend status I guess can work too? New woman at work suddenly got a lot more interested in me after she heard my co workers talking about my GF when we went out for a team lunch. Interesting
<image> https://np.reddit.com/r/kitchencels/s/sGJ0h8624A "She DMed me after my post before last here just to talk and say how relatable it was and we found we actually had a lot in common"
and it's not about women, the whole social sphere right now is too much individualism and not being social. This is a good example of women are wonderful effect on display.
https://np.reddit.com/r/GirlDinnerDiaries/comments/1vqsw6p/i_dont_get_approached_at_all_and_i_dont/ “I don’t understand why men don’t show interest in me at all.” “we hooked up and he wants to hook up again but I don’t want a sexual relationship.” Fascinating....
https://np.reddit.com/r/GirlDinnerDiaries/comments/1vqsw6p/i_dont_get_approached_at_all_and_i_dont/ “I don’t understand why men don’t show interest in me at all.” “we hooked up and he wants to hook up again but I don’t want a sexual relationship.” Fascinating....
https://np.reddit.com/r/GirlDinnerDiaries/comments/1vnh34f/broke_up_with_my_age_gapnewly_poly_bf_and_men_can/ He sent me a photo of him crying, which has made me feel immensely better. Because yeah, I think you should feel bad. And I’ve laughed looking at it because.. what the fuck 😂 This is sad and embarrassing. Just look at all the men approaching her after her breakup. No wonder it's called easy mode.
The only time I ever personally found good dating advice for myself was when I googled, like a cavewoman: bisexual women dating advice for women trying to date other women Lol
Main Thread Debate posts seem to prioritize ragebait This seems to be the case with lot a of subreddits. Ragebait works because it gets people more emotional and makes them engage with it more. Online there's no better way to get attention than ragebait. The same is true for platforms like X and Instagram.
At the end of the day, it's their subreddit so they can do whatever they want. But it is true that some specific users are allowed to get away with whatever they want. There's a reason why some of them never argue outside of this sub.
Why is it that on Reddit, whenever women talk about a guy who's thoughtful, caring, funny etc he always end up being treated badly or being told that he's not good enough 🙄
The men who complain have yet to shown they even tried to. Would you date a man who's much younger than you? I mean almost everyone knows women don't want to date guys younger than them. They don't even show any interest in a guy who's younger than them how hard dating was by using an experiment, the guys dating age range was 18 to 24. No surprises there.
But then when I brought up dating older responsible women, the response was basically “why would I do that? Or more likely that older women wouldn't date him themselves. I mean older women are still women, and they don't usually date guys younger than them.
I can't find a logical reason why someone in a fulfilling relationship would feel a compulsion to assume another's unhappiness or insult a woman simply enjoying her life. The same can be said about the women on this sub. They're all in happy relationships or happily single, yet they spend a lot of their time here being passive aggressive and making negative generalizations about men. I also can't think of a logical reason for that.
This is so performative seriously. Being loved for your body is still being loved for who you are, especially if you don't fit conventional beauty standards.
I always thought the concept of 'the wall' didn't make much sense, since women are loved for who they are and are desirable no matter what. Now some people on this sub (married men and Pink Pill women) argue that these women have options they don't want, so they aren't really options and therefore don't count as options. But on posts like these, they start counting those options as options lol. I hope these people never say that men don't find older women unattractive as a gotcha in some other p…
<image> "So, it's been roughly a year since i've been active here" > Is there a male that I haven't offended yet? All the self proclaimed good men on this sub who old and spend all their time arguing on behalf of women
But if it does we know there’s a big possibility because that’s what most men desire The chances are so low that it's not worth obsessing over. Women already don't approach, and chances of a woman who's young, fit and bubbly showing interest in you is even lower unless the guy goes out of his way for it. And just because you find some other woman attractive doesn't mean you've lost attraction to your partner.
And I think all combined leaves women with the prospect of dating as this invitation to find a man who likely doesn't see her as special But she is special to him because she chose him though.
That could be true, but this fear is way overblown. Most women who look like that don't give their attention easily, so this situation may never even come up.
doesn’t mean you won’t drop us the minute a skinnier, younger, prettier, more bubbly woman comes along. And that skinnier, younger, prettier, more bubbly woman would want them because?
Don't you know it's for some higher cause like saving young guys :3 Funny thing is, they accuse others of consuming RP content and following influencers, when they're the ones who seem to know everything about those influencers. It's all a case of projection.
There are never women rushing to defend men?? Yes. There are no women on this sub who've made it their life's mission to defend men online like some of the men here have, who only argue with other men. This sub is full of girl dads, old white knights and dudes who are pro FDS.
There are certain male posters here (I can think of at least 2) who will troll, argue, and challenge male posters all day but never engage with anything that a female poster says in a negative way. Basically all the old men on this sub. They don't get enough attention from their wives at home, so they need it from women half their age online.
Have we officially reached the point where we can acknowledge that when men talk about how hard it is to have casual sex there's an implied "with hot women" going unsaid. No
You should be happy that she loves you for your personality. Women aren't as visual as men, and it's only been three months. She treats you so well too. Why do all men just care about their egos? 😡
Do you guys think the looksmatch of a short (but fit) dude is a fat woman? Only girl dads and people who are obese themselves think that. Ironically, these people never apply the same logic to women. If a supposedly attractive women is with some unattractive guy, then that's her league too by that logic. But there, they'll come up with crap like she gave him a chance blah blah
No surprise that a blue pilled man finds this ethical. These women are selling their services by implying that they're the ones behind those accounts, when in reality the accounts are being managed by an agency. But this doesn't matter, since being ethical was never the point. Yeah, we understand how different you are from other men 👍🏻
They're infamous for hiring chatters and agencies to manage their accounts. Basically, they're lying to their subscribers. If we're going to talk about what's ethical, does this really sound ethical? People are against parasocial relationships and the deception behind those accounts.
There are no bluepillers on this sub. They're formers users of subreddits like IT, FDS and NiceGuys. Ask them what they think about FDS, and you'll find out how blue pilled they really are.
<image> > However, rich and famous women also wouldn't have any trouble attracting men. Men love women for who they are, so women never have to compensate with money or fame.
<image> Ain't this true. You can be extremely obese, make no money , have no personality and you'll still have options simply because your dating pool is men. You don't even need to "compensate" in any way.
while at the same time people clearly use romantic success and failure as information about someone's personality. This only applies to men. Women aren't judged for that
https://preview.redd.it/4abz3gk79aih1.jpeg?width=892&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0bc035acd76c783ae04bf11de971a57691c27939 Women shouldn't approach men because men don't appreciate it and only try to use them 😢
It's easy to be 'single' when you're single by choice and rarely celibate. Comparing single men and single women doesn't make much sense at all. A fairer comparison would be between straight single men and lesbian women, since both are often not single by choice.
I thought tinder wasn't supposed to be representative of anything. This just seems like another case of projection. There's one group that literally prioritizes casual sex over relationships. They're the real casual sex chasers.
Casual sex chasers accusing others of being potential cheaters will never stop being funny to me. They think everyone is a cheater like them. It's always projection.
I know several men that insist men get better with age while women lose their appeal. Women will never lose their appeal because men like women too much, and some men may get better with age because they were involuntarily celibate in their youth, so getting any results later is an improvement.
The sentiment of some men on this sub about women doesn't matter much. The reality is even on this sub, women who spend all of their time shitting on men are either married or in a relationship. It pretty much shows women are loved for who they are.
Women can never understand that because they're loved who they are. Having options definitely matters. Are lesbian women as selective as straight women? If not then why? Is it lack of options?
<image> The ability to reject people. Also, it's a good reminder that women who allegedly don't get approached aren't always going to have lower standards because of that.
Aren't you the one who constantly claims that you don't have any friends, and now all of a sudden you have female friends? Was is just lying for attention or just making up shit for the sake of arguments?
There's no one more performative online than a girl dad. If there's some older guy online who spends all his day arguing on behalf of women, there's a good chance that he's a girl dad. All these self proclaimed good men always seem to argue only with dudes half their age.
How does she know that he's not violent? We are no mind readers. Very surprising. There are some people here who go out of their way to claim that women have some sixth sense for such things lol
Soon this post is going to be filled with comments like they already approach chad or they show obvious signs of interest (which aren't obvious), which just derails the conversation.
Most “nice guys” aren’t For the 100th time on PPD, nice guys aren't nice and bad boys aren't bad. How many times is this topic is going to get repeated here, with people criclejerking over it in the comments? Sometimes it feels like even some dudes here have crush on these bad boys or f boys lol You are not entitled to anything This only applies to men on this sub. So boring
<image> Without rage baiting, trolling or personally insulting other people. You should display the badge so people know that even wholesome users get upvoted here too, not just rage baiters or trolls.
Some of them are active in every n count thread and go out of their way to announce how secure they are lmao. Some of them have been doing this for years now but apparently that's completely normal.
At least half of the men on that forum have a post history of dick pics and ads soliciting sex. What about men who don't have any of that in their post history? How do you plan to blame them? And what about men in dead bedrooms who still white knight for women online (basically alot of the old dudes on this sub)?
I don’t understand all the revenge fantasies in the comments. There’s a high chance she’ll end up with the kind of man she wants or at worst have something casual, while he remains involuntarily celibate.
I always wonder how do you imagine an average man express their "anger and bitterness" in a way that affects their possible future relationships Apparently, it means venting on Reddit in a way that some people don't approve of. And you're single because of views you express about women online, and people irl can "smell" your bitterness. So basically a bunch of nonsense.
You should know when someone is baiting. It's also funny how YouTube, Instagram and TikTok videos are used as proof on this sub when they support a particular narrative. Otherwise they're dismissed as rage bait, boys, bots, it's your algorithm blah blah
Not all men. But on 1 man who said things from my post there are 5 who supported him, and 10 who kept quiet, and they might as well just say same thing. Yes, there are still exceptions, and less than men want to believe. Even on this sub, you have a lot of male pick me, girl dads and dudes who've made it their whole personality to argue on behalf of women online. Self proclaimed good men who only argue with other men. There will always be men who go out of their way to cater to women, so it does…
You think quoting a few incidents makes incels harmful as a group? Do you see married men as harmful too? And what makes you think the last two incidents were committed by incels? Maybe I missed something, but I didn't see anything indicating they were inspired by incel ideology. Your second link even mentions this So far this year, 35 women have been killed, according to the Counting Dead Women project - many allegedly by current or former partners So it doesn't make sense to me why some women …
Its funny how you can call men on this sub cruel, even though it's overflowing with male pick me and girl dads. But if anyone else calls women cruel, it's misogyny.
Men just like women too much. No matter how a woman acts or looks, there always will be some men into her. Among men, only g*y men have that privilege.
Eventually they resort to personal insults and on the main sub you have people who constantly insult others and break the rules, but for some reason they're never banned. Some people are there just to troll, rage bait and personally insult others, especially performative old dudes who've made arguing on behalf of women their whole personality.
because we are biologically more loyal. Don't women on this sub go out of their way to say that most of the options that women have are men they find unattractive? Women not sleeping with men they wouldn't have slept with even if they were single isn't proof that they're loyal :)
Like you know you're a bad faith actor when you make these ridiculous fallacies. That's expected from a guy with blue pill. Somehow they have to make everything about the manosphere and how big of a male feminist they are. Don't try to make too much sense of it.
I’d drop so many men I’m talking to Why am I not surprised? Just using other people as placeholders for validation and attention. No wonder no one wants relationships there when people with a mindset like this exist.
Some g*y men think all straight men have options as they do or that women they find unattractive have no standards. But even women who are considered unattractive still have standards. He won't get it.
Nothing guarantees your success as a man. It only increases your chances, and that video is probably staged. Can't say more or I'll break some rule (that doesn't apply to certain users)
but idk why anyone would wanna be super hairy, more prone to acne, smellier, and have a very localized orgasm - the full-body experience is just so much better as someone having gone from the former to the latter Damn
Another one https://np.reddit.com/r/GirlDinnerDiaries/s/Ff7pQ13yPd He was soooo sweet otherwise (this isn’t me coping, he genuinely was!! I don’t understand why it couldn’t translate over to sex) but im still sad
The big difference is that women do it for men they like, while dudes will do it even for random women. I know that when a woman genuinely likes a guy, she'll make excuses for him.
You know there are a lot of old dudes, girl dads and male pick me too on this sub who've made it their whole personality online to argue on behalf of women and talk about how bad women have it right? These kinds of posts always attract them.
the guys they’re looking for So it's their standards that are keeping them single? And there are plenty of men who are into overweight women, but that gers dismissed as just a fetish.
Men do reject women at similar rate You seriously don't believe that do you? Do you really think there are a lot of women getting sex zoned lol. I don't really get this sub obsession with trying to create equivalents for everything. Women also approach men, but they do it differently. Men also reject women, but they do it differently. Not everything has an equivalent and that's ok. While I'm not denying these things happen, they don't happen anywhere close to the same rate. Whether men want to a…
Yeah according to some people on this sub, overweight women don't have any standards and will take anything they can get. At the end of the day, they're still women and will be picky. It's even funnier when some of these people pretend to be women's saviors online but always portray overweight women in a bad light.
Don't you know there's a woman who's secretly interested in you, but you just don't know it yet lol. And equating unattractive men with overweight women doesn't make sense because overweight women still get approached and have far more options. Not everything has an equivalent. There will never be a female equivalent of a guy who has no options for sex or relationships.
This is really hilarious. You're trying to argue normally and the other guy is obsessed with bringing the red pill into the argument. Don't you know if you're a single guy complaining about dating, then you're automatically red pilled on this sub.
struggling males could date single moms, fat women, older women, no one has absolutely zero options. Do you think these women have no standards? Are older women willing to date guys younger than them? I know this is a low effort gotcha but try to be logical. Your options are only the people who want you. These women still have higher standards than most g** men.
And just because he broke it off doesn't mean he was only there for sex. He went on dates with her, had sex, realized they were sexually incompatible and decided not to continue, even though he could have strung her along if he just wanted sex. FDS followers would cry and bitch in either case.
When people say “just be happy single” or “wait until the right person comes along.” The advice lands very differently depending on your reality. This advice works for women because they're the ones who get approached. Ironically, the people saying "just be happy single" online are never single themselves or they have some fwb or similar arrangement. This is usually said just to shut the guy down.
Can't go on this sub without some blue pill guy bitching about the red pill lmao. They have to bring up the red pill in every comment. It lives rent free in their heads.
It just means they don't need a checklist to fall in love with a woman. They can love a woman for who she is. She doesnt have to compensate for anything.
Only people who think men have high standards are dudes with blue pill flairs or people arguing in bad faith. Everyone knows men's standards are women nowhere close to the standards women have for men.
<image> A woman commented on her post, and the mods removed her comment. The post had over 110 upvotes and now it's at 0, so I feel a little sorry for her 😅
<image> https://np.reddit.com/r/hatethissmug/comments/1ueaeea/the_i_hate_men_situation/ "I’ll say it again YOU ARE NOT CUTE , QUIRKY OR ICONIC FOR HATING MEN!!" Say it louder for the people whose whole personality online revolves around hating men and who think it's funny. There are lots of them and they're fishing for attention in the worst way possible.
Even if what you're saying is true that's just one mod. What about female mods on this sub? And if this was an anti women sub then how come you have the top 1% Commenter badge? This badge is a indication of which kind of comments get upvoted and supported on a sub in general. Not to mention that there are a bunch of old men here who have dedicated their entire accounts to arguing on behalf of women, though you could argue they're just trying to get validation from women half their age.
but shy girls know this is shite, if she’s not hot she’s invisible, and if she’s not bubbly she’s a bitch Are those shy girls in the room with us? She still has options and will be approached. You're projecting women preferences onto men.
Honestly I'm just quite tired of Reddit gaslighting people into thinking actually nice guys are the bad guys because they lack assertiveness. On Reddit, no guy is worse than a nice guy. Serial killers, wife beaters etc are nowhere close to being as evil as a nice guy. I think it's partly due to the women are wonderful effect. If you show them a guy who actually has done bad things but has a partner, they'll start searching for positive qualities in him because he was chosen by a woman.
and that only happened when I started making six figures. I stayed with her for exactly a year, but I’m not spending my life with a woman who is essentially prostituting herself to me Damn
Not really. And don't forget that a lot of mods on this sub are women who are clearly very anti RP. If you see most upvoted comments, top 1% commenters and which people get banned while which people are allowed to get away with whatever they want, you'd realize this place is far from being a RP echo chamber.
it just feels crappy? i guess? my current bf also has a type, which i am the exact opposite of, so that feels awesome Why does it feel crappy? If he's with you, then he obviously finds you attractive and that's all that matters right? Men may have a type but that doesn't mean it's the only one they're attracted to. Being attracted to only one specific type is a woman's thing.
It seems like you don't understand what echo chambers look like. I don't think this sub even has any male mods who are RP. If you want to see what echo chambers look like, go to GirlDinner or TwoXChromosomes. What the top 1% of commenters do indicate is that this sub leans heavily towards the blue pill (pink pill in disguise) and the pink pill.
They marry men with retroactive jealousy and who are from red pill and incel forums. This doesn't make any sense at all lmao. Do you have any source that says married men who are abusers are somehow redpilled? Or are we just making up scenarios in our heads
Can any guy claim to be a volcel if no woman has ever shown any interest in him? In that case, it doesn't matter whether he's putting in the work or not. If no woman has ever shown interest in him, then he doesn't have any options and is therefore an incel.
I wonder why women don't apply the same logic to married men. Most violence against women is commited by their intimate partners, but I don't ever see women saying that they're cautious of married men 🤔
How? Most top 1% commenters on this sub are either blue pill/no pill white knights or pink pill women. Most threads on the main sub are basically just them circlejerking in the comments.
Yes. Incel just means being celibate not by choice. If he can't find anyone else, then he's an incel. It doesn't matter whether he had a girlfriend in high school or not. In this case, he isn't celibate by choice. Anyone who isn't celibate by choice is an incel.
sure there is an overlap since we both date men No there isn't. Most women aren't chasing casual sex or hooking up with strangers. The experiences of gay men and straight women are very different, and they're not comparable in that regard.
<image> "Man, I feel so worthless, asked a girl out she rejected me and then the next day I see her making out again with the ex who,she said was only using her for physical pleasure." He has a great personality.
Nope. I basically have two types of dreams. Ones where I'm myself, and ones where I'm an entirely different person. The ones where I'm a completely different person feel very real. The other people in those dreams are strangers too. It feels like I'm living someone else's life.
If I'm being shallow, I'm way out of his league OP seems really angry in the comments. Funny how no one is saying that her entitlement and personality are the problem :)
To be fair, the mod of the sub has already said that it's a subreddit for ugly women, not just femcels. They did a survey and found that around 40% of the women there had already been in relationships.
Why on earth would women ever approach in real life when they can get a date from their pocket without having to risk rejection? This is actually very true.
Yeah that's a risk you opt into when you open up about deeply personal struggles with strangers on the internet I guess you're right. Tbh, as a man there's not much point in venting on Reddit because most people will just personally attack you. The only time you'll get support is when you're posting against men lol.
Dating is a good example here because it sucks for almost everyone. Men get almost nothing while women are swamped with people, a lot who are low effort or actually deceitful in attempting to get sex You don't really think this is somehow equivalent right? In that supposed equivalent, men by default become low effort liars who only want sex. Not everything has an equivalent. There are some risks that women face in dating that men don't. In the same way, there's no female equivalent of a guy who …
They used to sing his praises for years, and now they pretend that he never existed Lol. These self proclaimed "good men" never talk about violence against women in relationships, creepy old men harassing women in real life and online etc. They only ever focus on one group. Very interesting right?
Most violence against women is commited by their intimate partners, but think of EL. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these white knights are actual criminals in real life. It's very easy for criminals and pedos to larp online.
I feel so lonely, I only have my boyfriend :( The thing is, this can happen to men too. You can have a partner and still feel lonely. But being lonely because you have zero romantic options is something that is mostly experienced by straight men and sometimes lesbian women. Straight women can't really relate to that. "Casual sex and situationships aren't what most women want." But some of these women clearly engaged in them multiple times, so they were definitely getting something out of them.
How many of them would you say are on this sub, roughly? On this sub, apparently old old dudes with blue/no pill flairs who are trying hard to get validation from women half their age are considered good men, and everyone else is bitter and a bad person.
Men being misogynistic, always wanting to hurt women and all that is way too overblown online. There was a survey that showed most men view women positively.
I’ve never claimed someone sent me links Lol I was giving you a suggestion. Some people here have started using this excuse that other people are sending them links so you can't question their algorithm hahaha Also omg why did I lose my badge? I need to bait harder Be active in the main sub, only argue with men, and agree with women (like you always do) and you'll get enough upvotes. Nice circlejerk they've got there.
Maybe it's time to spam YouTube links and claim that other people send them to you so no one can question your algorithm 😯 And where did your Top 1% Commenter badge go?
average men will pump and dump be and use me so why not do it with chad anyway? But you support this view and have repeated it multiple times, and now you're trying to pull a lame gotcha. You're literally a walking contradiction.
There are very few genuinely blue pill people on this sub. A lot of users with blue/no pill flairs are actually former posters from subs like IT, FDS, NiceGuys etc
they'll vent about no matches / dates This is a problem that will almost always be exclusive to straight men and sometimes lesbian women. There are no women who can't get matches or dates unless their standards are very high.
You're missing out on all the circlejerking and karma farming. Just make sure to only comment on posts made by men, and if a woman makes a post, make sure only to argue with the men (if you aren't doing that already).
It would get posted on NiceGuys sub as a proof that 'nice guys aren't actually nice' and he should have been patient with her instead of acting entitled. Then you'd have some people posting it here, pretending to be mad on behalf on her behalf and using it as proof of something. But being contradictory is part of some people's online persona.
Some old dudes think they're some kind of savior online, when in reality they're just chronically online and want attention. They've dedicated their entire accounts to arguing on behalf of women and being trolls.
Isn't it funny how some users here are allowed to personally insult other people? It's like they're allowed to say whatever they want and are above any moderation?
Except it is the minority of women who experience Women on this sub say that it's very common though. Do you think only minority of women experience violence and abuse in general? The way some men on this sub talk to women or fantasize about harming women does not make them any better. I think we can all agree that actions speak louder than words. No one should be fantasizing about hurting women, but people who go out and do those things are obviously worse than those who merely fantasize about …
If you want to date a woman who likes shitty thing Are those guys in the room with us, or were we going to keep making imaginary scenarios in our heads and declaring gotchas as facts?
Most violence against women is committed by their intimate partners, but for some reason some people on this sub seem more obsessed with proving that men who haven't done anything are potentially bigger abusers than men who have actually done bad things.
As I said before, my country is a common sex tourism destination and I don't see stuff like that. I don't deny that it happens, but it feels like it has been blown way out of proportion It's just a reminder that what people say on Reddit isn't always a reflection of real life. This is what algorithms and echo chambers do. And exaggerating things is how content gets engagment.
Did he also tell you to smile more? Lmao. But yeah, sometimes it's better not to take things too seriously and just relax. I feel like you love arguing, but it can get draining. Funnily enough, people at my institute think I'm the most unemotional nonchalant person, they even get irritated by my lack of energy. Very interesting 😯
<image> “Oh my goodness. You look adorable this morning!! Take my money. I’ll drop a cheque off tonight and you can fill it out for whatever amount you feel is appropriate.”
In their hypothetical scenarios, guys who haven't done anything are treated as potential killers, while guys who have actually done bad things are either misunderstood, have hidden good qualities or masked it too well.
Yeah, I don't know why she feels it's a gendered thing. As if there aren't enough posts on X and Reddit about how beauty standards for women are so high and how porn has ruined men's brains lol
If you look throughout history, there have always been single men and women, and many of them were probably because they couldn’t find a partner. Yeah, that's true, but there's a difference between being single by choice and being single not by choice.
Just imagine how many women would be killed and abused if instead of "you're such a nice guy but we're not compatible" they said the truth "you're such a nice guy but I don't see you as a man". Most violence against women is committed by their intimate partners, but go on and keep making hypothetical scenarios in your head about guys you don't find attractive 👍🏻
This can happen with men too. You can be in a relationship or surrounded by people and still feel lonely. He's also talking about the loneliness that comes from having zero romantic options, and this is something most women on this sub can't relate to. That's why the discussion always gets redirected to "you can be in a relationship and still be lonely" which is true, but it shows that many women on this sub have no idea what it's like to experience loneliness that comes from having no romantic …
And again, I agree that friends and family fulfill some of social needs, but not the romantic one. I don't want to argue how important it is They know that, and the ones who say it's not that important are rarely single themselves or have some kind of FWB arrangement. The reason they want to downplay it is that having no romantic options is something most women here can't relate to at all. This problem is much more common among straight men and, sometimes lesbian women.
A lot of them are very young, but they'll eventually enter into relationships where the man approaches them first :). It's not very surprising that some of them have already been in relationships or are currently in one. Basically, being a femcel online is more about aesthetics and a lifestyle label than actually having anything to do with celibacy or being single.
If women can't make men feel desired in the way they want to feel desired, then it doesn't mean much. In the same way, if a man isn't making a woman feel desired in the way she wants to feel desired, it doesn't mean much either.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/myths-of-desire/201812/5-ways-partners-can-make-a-man-feel-desired when I asked men if there was anything they wished their partners were doing more of to help them feel desired, only 12 percent of participants indicated their partner made them feel as desired as they wanted. The other 88 percent of participants indicated that they wished their partner did the things described above Yes sure
<image> One thing I've noticed on this sub is that some people love making equivalences where none exist and don't really understand the concept of rejection. You cannot reject someone who doesn't want you. All these made up scenarios where short, unattractive men reject unattractive or obese women as a gotcha to prove that men reject women on a large scale don't mean much if those women weren't interested in them in the first place. If there were actually women showing interest in those men and…
They're the ones who DM her first, and she isn't replying. Everyone can see who's rejecting whom. And again, a reminder that you cannot reject someone who doesn't want you in the first place. If that woman has no interest in the guys who DM her, then those guys rejecting her in your hypothetical scenario doesn't mean much either.
On this sub, unless it's an attractive guy chasing an unattractive woman, everyone assumes men only want sex and that these women are constantly being rejected for relationships. In reality, a lot of these women are the ones rejecting men.
once they reject these women for their looks after seeing them this will make these women even more insecure than they already are. Don't make scenarios in your head.
A lot of women on that sub have already been in relationships, and the moderator herself has said that it's a sub for ugly women, not necessarily just femcels. Not everything has an equivalent. There never will be a female equivalent of a guy who has no options, and women who supposedly only have options for sex but not relationships (overblown rhetoric online) aren't their equivalent either.
But it's so crazy to me how many men shame women online for working in these industries, then proceed to go watch porn online. How do you shame women for showing their nude body online then actively watch those same kind of people They're not the same men. I also don't think there are many guys who subscribe to a woman's OF, send her money, and then turn around and shame other women for doing OF. These guys are more likely to be male feminists or have a blue pill flair. The only pornstars I've s…
ladies remember, make him work for it and basically beg for it Sometimes I feel you want women to stay single like you, hence these rants that make no sense. Women shouldn't take advice from those who don't apply it to themselves.
Not everything has an equivalent. There are some risks that women face in dating that men don't face to the same extent. In the same way, there's no female equivalent of a guy with no options.
Yall don't believe we women can be lonely and expect us to listen to yall and have empathy. It's not like women on the internet have any empathy for men anyway (except a specific group of men) . Not really missing out on something that doesn't exist anyway.
The men who struggle with lack of options means there is not a single person he can realistically and consistently talk to with romantic intent and there won't be one for the foreseeable future. Not even an odd Instagram text or matches on an app truly nothing. No the ugly girl don't want him either. Ain't that the truth. Some people on this sub are obsessed with making equivalents out of everything when simply there isn't one. And no, women who supposedly only have options for sex but not relat…
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This is the second time I have almost been at a place that was exploded or bombed. This is so scary 😰 I hope your hairdresser and his family are okay. Stay safe.
while also saying how hard it is to date now since women are dating their childhood heroes. Different men have different opinions. How shocking, right? 😨 It's seriously lame trying to do a gotcha with everything.
I mean, people who are literally obsessed with his penis and how his livestreams are doing should be the last people accusing others of that. But this is PPD.
Do you ever look at your own post history the same way? You didn't answer this I genuinely wish he could get help, professional help. Why not comment on his post then, instead of trying to do a gotcha here?
People with no friends mocking others for not having friends. People who've been chronically online for years repeating the same points while telling others to touch grass. I guess a lot of people are just projecting.
Research in the field shows that the vast majority of incels are neither physically violent nor aggressively misogynistic online, but a significant minority of incels (~10%) engage in misogynistic hostility online, and there are rare instances of incels lashing out in physical violence, most notably Elliot Rodger, who in 2014 killed six people and injured 14 others before killing himself. https://liberalarts.utexas.edu/ Actual research instead of just cherry picking posts online. But nothing get…
The purpose of this post is basically to say that only women are allowed to complain online. Complaining is okay as long as it's about nice guys, RP etc. but if you complain about women, suddenly it's 'not masculine' and you need to man up.
But they dont speak in real life like they do online Do you complain about men this much irl like you do online? And it's the usual 'you have the worst red flags, but I've assumed the worst about you so I automatically win the argument' thing. The thing about assumptions is that you can assume anything. I can just as easily assume you randomly start ranting irl about nice guys, RP and how men complain online, and that you have red flags that you can't identify yourself.
Lesbians are the exception because they tend to be more aroused to their preferred sex than the other sex, a pattern typically seen in men. Very interesting 🤔
You know there are certain people online who just want to rage bait and act corny. You can't make them understand anything. Do you really think you can make a guy understand who only posts vile shit about a particular group of men just for engagement?
That thread has the same 2-3 people making more than half of the comments and personally insulting others. Weird, obsessive behavior and some of them have been doing it for years now.
What women do not like is the complaining, usually, especially if it seemingly targets them as the ones who are at fault Now men can't even vent online without women getting offended lmao. Tbf more than women, it's the performative older men who get offended and start arguing on behalf of women. Maybe it's some 'girl dad' thing or just trying to get validation from women half their age. Otherwise, why wouldn’t women take offense if they feel like they are being attacked? Wish people kept this sa…
Some people will say it's just Tiktok rage bait and go on a rant about the algorithm while quoting obvious Instagram and Twitter rage bait posts as proof of something.
Also, there's a difference between PPBs and sex tourists. Sex tourists have existed for many years now. Some people intentionally confuse the two to portray men in a bad light. Many sex tourists are divorced older men.
And now you're saying women always have options as if it means something :3 And for some reason you always relate options to casual sex. It might come as suprising to you, but they have options for relationships too. It isn't just casual sex like it is for gay men.
Women will ALWAYS have other options period. But don't you spend a lot of time seething about how those options don't mean much since they're not the guys she wants? Some gay men really seem confused about how things work with straight people.
Yeah it would be very weird and come off as obsessive behavior. Or imagine if there were a lesbian women who got obsessed with how straight women date and made it her whole personality.
Some people don't have any power in real life, so they try to feel powerful online by being corny and irritating. It's about trying to be someone they aren't. Some of these hypocrites will never see their own views as toxic and hateful.
My dad wanted to abort me and has nothing to do with me. My mom trafficked me with her boyfriend when I was young. My sister is no contact with me. My boyfriend of over 5 years uses sex workers. Ive never even gotten a promotion This is really sad...
Another thing is people say it’s better to be alone than in a bad relationship It's just to shut the guy down. Most people on this sub who say that are never actually single themselves or they're in some kind of FWB arrangement, while also telling you that casual sex doesn't mean much. Also, get ready for the 'You're not entitled to a relationship' comments.
It's funny how many of these self proclaimed 'good guys' with blue flairs always end up resorting to personal attacks, and their whole personality is arguing on behalf of women online lol
Do you form all your opinions from Instagram and TikTok posts? I thought you'd quote some study, but an Instagram post lmao In reality, fat women, single moms and unattractive women still have enough options, and their standards are higher than all gay men combined. It's not the gotcha you think it is. Also funny how some people scream that men's standards don't matter since women don't approach, then suddenly start quoting men standards they made up in their heads as a gotcha.
If you’d sleep with 60 women out of 100. But only number 58 says yes. You’re settling. She’s just good enough Nope. If I find her attractive, then I'm not settling. I would be settling if I didn't find her attractive like that and needed to spend more time with her and for her to make up for the lack of attraction with other traits.
Men settle. Women are just one of any. If you’d have sex with 60% of the women you find attractive Based flair, but that's not what settling is. Men just have higher variability in what they find attractive. If they end up with a woman they genuinely find attractive, it's not settling. Settling would be ending up with a woman they don't find that attractive.
Isn't it funny how the 'self fulfilling prophecy' argument only seems to apply to one group? Some women and gay men can make hating men their whole personality, but any bad outcome they experience is blamed entirely on the other person rather than their own toxic views.
fat women are desired, small breast women are desired, tall women are desired, muscular women are desired. all of these women are desired, They'll try to dismiss it as guys just wanting sex, and if you say most of these women also end up in relationships where the guy approached them first, they'll dismiss that too by saying that just because they're in a relationship doesn't mean it's a good one.
which is why men trip overthemselves to date undesireable fat women and single moms and ugly women? LMAO All of these women have enough options, and they have higher standards than all gay men combined.
That’s a small group of the female population that seem to have most men chasing after them. In reality, most women get chased and most women who are in relationships had men approaching them first. Most women have options, and women who are single are usually single by choice. Some people here have a complete disconnect with reality. Both groups above don’t want a ran through slut, don’t want a single mom and don’t want her fat. And don't people here constantly cry and scream how women are the …
https://i.redd.it/o3livbpjgv5h1.gif There's a possible explanation, but it would probably go against the rules of this sub, and only certain users are allowed to break the rules anyways so...
So you guys want a woman who’s OK with misogyny? For women on this sub, any guy who's even slightly critical of women is a misogynist. And most people don't act the same way irl as they do online. Pretty sure the women on this sub who keep ranting about RP, nice guys and men in general don't talk about men the same way irl either. And there are many women here who constantly post and comment against men, but don't see themselves as misandrists. Point is, women on this sub calling a guy misogynis…
Funniest one is that some guys are supposedly single because of their comments on Reddit, as if sex and relationships are some sort of reward women give men for posting nice comments about women online. And PPD can't go one day without a 'nice guy' post. Wish women posted this much about cheaters and abusers too.
On the contrary, I want to see more liberated, lustful women around me. I think it will increase my chances of getting laid. Lol, it doesn't work like that. Women suddenly won't start finding you more attractive just because they're more liberated. For some guys, it wouldn't change a thing.
People just don't take therapy advice seriously from performative males who've never been to therapy themselves despite clearly having many issues. They advocate for it online to look progressive and farm upvotes, not because they believe in it, otherwise they would have taken that advice themselves. And sex thing again sounds like a projection since some people literally use sex as their main way to even socialise lmao.
Nah, worse is someone not being over their ex and making it their whole personality. Imagine baggage being so bad that everything reminds you of them. And then these people take out their frustration on another person because they're too immature to move on.
imagine if young guys get the ability to sleep with most women, would they not? they would. now imagine if women did the same. this would result in a lot of sex but less relationships, because why settle down when there is a new guy out there to fuck?this is why male/male libido don't work for relationships, see gay guys. it usually results in open relationships. Even most attractive straight men settle down, but many gay males prefer being single or in open relationships. And it's not necessari…
Reminds me of this https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/myths-of-desire/201812/5-ways-partners-can-make-a-man-feel-desired when I asked men if there was anything they wished their partners were doing more of to help them feel desired, only 12 percent of participants indicated their partner made them feel as desired as they wanted. The other 88 percent of participants indicated that they wished their partner did the things described above.
So, if women allegedly always want "more" than what they, would an average woman dating someone "in her league" always mean that she's settling? What do you think? Don't a lot of women on this sub and white knights constantly complain about how relationships and marriage benefit average men more, while women supposedly don't get much out of them? They're the ones who imply that average women settle because there supposedly aren't enough 'good men' out there, and they no matter who they date, the…
i still wanted relationships then but i was young and didn't know what i liked, wanted, and disliked and now that i know i want a relationship more than casual sex. How convenient. Most people don't need to engage in sec that many times just to figure out what they like and dislike. You still had a choice, and the choice you made was to engage in casual sex.
How much of it is actually because of location and risk? You can't really say it's completely voluntary. And since you're engaged in casual sex a lot in the past, it's fair to assume you've chased it a lot and enjoyed it.
So somehow fat gay males can be chased and genuinely desired even after being minority within a minority, but fat women cannot be? Why 80% of men want the top 20% of women, the other 20% of men are the ones into older women and fat women So it went from all men chase the top 20% of women to 80% men chase top 20% lmao. At this rate, this percentage will keep shrinking even more. The reality is all kinds of women get chased attractive, fat, ugly etc . Maybe gay males are actually the ones chasing …
<image> "all males are going after the same top 20% of women, thin, young and cute and nice." At least put effort into the bait. And isn't it funny how you say gay males and straight men are the same, but somehow gay males can chase fat men and be genuinely attracted to them while straight men supposedly only chase women who are thin, cute blah blah.
How many times are you going to post the same thing? You've posted this multiple times in the past too. Male causes don't get support because there are insufferable male pick me online who want to show how different they are from other men, along with performative old white knights whose whole personality revolves around arguing with other men :3
<image> "Lied to me and said his yard was enclosed and my cat was safe and couldn't get out. Said I was crazy and refused to let me get an enclosure for my cat. She got run over and died"
The most common strategy was telling a woman whatever she wanted to hear and this was used by the majority (78.1%) of the 2,557 men reporting any history of forced or coerced sex. The following strategies were reported by order of frequency: asked her repeatedly to have sex (48.6%); had a friend, partner, or group of friends help you get what you want (46.6%), had a female friend make the woman feel safe and convince her (43.8%), told her you knew she wanted it (39.3%), focused on a stranger to …
Men who viewed themselves as better than same-aged male peers “at getting what they want sexually from women” used more forceful strategies. No surprises there, but women will still see those men in a positive light because they get women 🤷🏻
They don't mean it. It's just venting 💅🏻 Jokes aside, it's probably because of WAW effect and a lot of white knights who've made it their life mission to argue on behalf of women.
Well, would you want a best friend that says offensive things to your other friends when he should have known it would be offensive and isn't even apologizing for the offense? How common do you think this is? Is it always necessary to exaggerate everything in the worst way possible and try to equate it to a group of guys you don't like?
Guys here have admitted they care about male validation via being desired by women, so this is a tic-for-tac situation. Are those guys in the room with us lol? This is clearly an exaggeration and an attempt to create an equivalent where none exists.
The wall is very real but women can avoid it by taking care of their skin, avoiding sun damage, diet, exercise (particularly in the face). Even if they don't take care of their skin or diet and never exercise, they'll still have options. Men just like women too much. There'll always be some 'hear me out' dude. Whether they actually like their options is another discussion though, but even then it's usually women rejecting men, not the other way around.
Yeah yall see what you want to see Like y'all don't right? Idc how many TikTok’s you’ve perused with women “smelling misogyny”. Point being “women” aren’t doing that. If you'd spent more time on this sub, you'd know it's other women and dudes who get angry on their behalf constantly saying women can smell misogyny. It's not something I came up with. It's something they came up with and repeat across multiple posts.
You're condemning them for avoiding men they have noticed exhibit sexist/narcissistic traits while not catching EVERY sexist/narcissist No, I'm criticizing them for being immature and constantly trying to paint men they don't find attractive in a bad light. It's not like they found those men attractive in the first place anyways, so how does it matter whether their so called misogyny checker picked up anything or not Seems like you're upset other dudes do a better job hiding than you do. Are you…
No. Because men feel the need to constantly blame women for “choosing wrong” Women can't claim they can smell misogyny, narcissism and all that from miles away and then also say they shouldn't be blamed for their choices. If women didn't try to act morally superior and come up with all these theories to paint men they aren't attracted to in a bad light, maybe they wouldn't constantly be told to choose better.
If you got a woman, you’d honestly be happy with whatever she gives you Yeah, there absolutely aren't any men who feel unsatisfied with their sex lives right or undesired by their partners right? 🤷🏻 https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/myths-of-desire/201812/5-ways-partners-can-make-a-man-feel-desired when I asked men if there was anything they wished their partners were doing more of to help them feel desired, only 12 percent of participants indicated their partner made them feel as desired …
There's no logic in your comment since men generally aren't the choosers. 'Pick better' doesn't really apply since men aren't the ones doing the choosing, but you can believe whatever you want 🤷🏻
You don't get it. Aren't women the ones who claim they can smell misogyny, narcissism, desperation and whatnot from miles away? Are we seriously going to pretend women never say stuff like that? This is exactly why 'choose better' is always said to them and probably always will be :3
Men in general are never going to have options like women. 'Choose better' will always apply more to women because they have options, and they're also the ones who claim they can smell misogyny, desperation, narcissism and whatnot from miles away.
Women are the choosers🤷🏻. To pick better you need to have options in the first place. Not really a gotcha like you think unless you believe women approach men. There's not an equivalent of everything and that's ok
I'm talking about the dudes here who make it their whole personality that they're male feminists and see themselves as green flags. They believe they're morally superior to other men and different from other guys, but everyone knows that when a guy goes out of his way to show how good he is, how much he cares about women, pretends to get mad on behalf of women and how big of a male feminist he is, there's usually something else going on
OP’s point is that only women apparently are expected to always pick up on it Because women and dudes who pretend to get mad on behalf of women constantly say how dating is much more unsafe for women than it is for men, and how women can smell misogyny, narcissism and whatnot from miles away. Also not to forget that women are the choosers. Maybe don't say things like this and women won't be expected to pick up on it 🤷🏻
Only the dudes who pretend to get mad on behalf of women and make being a male feminist their whole personality on this sub are considered green flags 👍🏻
These people constantly scream about how dating is dangerous for women and how women can smell misogyny from miles away. They want to make ridiculous claims like that but get mad the moment women are held accountable. He probably thinks he made some genius gotcha, even though not everything has an equivalent.
Women are the choosers, not men. People on this sub talk like as if women approach men and men are the ones choosing them. These are bad gotchas trying an establish when there isn't an equivalent for everything.
These dudes who pretend to get mad behalf of women forget women are the ones who claim they can sense misogyny from miles away and what not. Maybe don't make claims like that then. Men aren't the claiming they can smell misandry from miles away lmao
Then men women complain about are never going to be lonely since they're still desirable to women despite all the complaining 🤷🏻. I remember seeing a post there where a guy cheated on his girlfriend, got another girl pregnant and women started commenting this is why the male loneliness epidemic exists, when in reality men like him will always be attractive to women.
You'll probably see some male pick me soon saying they don't want to be valued for their height or looks, but for their wonderful personality, because they've been approached by women so many times over it and didn't like it (basically humble bragging)
Do you think women stop talking to their friends about this after high school 🙄? Most people tell their friends about this kind of stuff IF THEY HAVE FRIENDS
Most men are never going to have options like women anyways and you can believe whatever you want but men in general have lower standards than women. I think we both can agree to that and do you think men only realise what they find attractive after PNC lol. how are we supposed to take them seriously when they say they’re attracted to almost every woman? Also interesting how when those guys say they find a lot of women attractive, they can't be taken seriously. But when some of those guys say me…
You know what the problem with this sub is? Some people here will say that certain groups for women are invisible to men, but when men do show interest, it here reduced to they just want sex. And even when those men want relationships, it still here reduced to them just wanting sex. There are also many men on this sub who say they don't have high standards and would be happy with any woman. There have even been men here who openly admitted they're very attracted to fat women, but y'all convenien…
It's projection. They can't see beyond conventional standards, so they assume men can't either. It's also a way of implying that interest from men isn't genuine while interest from women is always genuine.
Yeah that's fair, but some women on reddit literally suggest breakup or divorce for every problem which I don't think is reasonable. Some of them even give advice on how to extract more money from the man.
https://preview.redd.it/xizhqye6wz2h1.jpeg?width=461&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e733aa1ede0aef2148698969ce4d9ad3fa5e7008 I remember seeing this. Don't know how true it is, but we can probably all agree that a guy being feminine is a major ick for most women.
woman who sleeps with a dude but then he's like "i've had so much fun last night you were amazing but i don't think i'm ready for a relationship however we can do this again if you want as friends!" This isn't as common as you think. That's why I said this is more common with gay men. Don't people on this sub constantly say that most women aren't interested in casual sex and don't engage in it? Then how is this supposedly common lmao 💀
