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How did it end?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:17 AM
2

You don't think a guy has bragged to all his friends after getting with you? Maybe not specifically mentioning you, but that he got laid yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:14 AM
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She at least won't have the comparison to literally know the guy is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:13 AM
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I mean why not? If they like how I look and they're down to meet why won't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 05:09 AM
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Basically, I'll add some girls from Instagram from my local area to snapchat, and then it'll lead to it recommending me other girls from my area on the recommended friends list thing. So, I'm just adding them because they're mutual friends with some other girl that I don't know, but I know we're from the same area. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:57 AM
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That just makes me feel like, okay go out there and be for the streets. Like it's fine, we can have sex in that framework, but why would I be the guy to be your man if you feel no obligation to be exclusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:40 AM
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I would say it's my philosophy specifically in the anger of rejection. When I go to sleep tonight and get 10 hours of sleep, my mind will be rejuvenated and I'll wonder why I was so stressed about that. I don't think that 24/7, but when I try to pursue a woman and it fails, I start to just shut down and revert back to my virgin mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:31 AM
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It's not like I would take her back or anything, but I feel like my entire red pill journey was the result of her. She thought I was a loser and I want to prove to the world that I'm the baddest dude there ever was. I want to do stuff with my life so glorious that she will regret doubting me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:29 AM
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The trouble is I can easily better myself in other areas and then I'll go approach some woman and then she'll reject me regardless and it'll lead me to this mindset again and I'll flip out on myself on the inside. Rejection is worse than any physical pain that could be inflicted on me. When I do something like going to the gym, I make progress. I'll lift a little bit heavier weight, and it feels nice not worrying about women. But then eventually I'll come back and want a woman, and I'll get reje…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:23 AM
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I don't know how people can take rejection on the nose. That's the biggest thing that makes me flip out and say things I might not necessarily believe and only really believe when I'm hurting. Every rejection after a nice conversation feels horrible to me. It's like I just get flashbacks
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:20 AM
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To be clear, I have had one fwb since that point and some one night stands. It's almost like I feel so scarred from it, that I would prefer to have a big harem to make up for the type of damage I feel the first girl did to me. Of course, a harem isn't realistic, but it would show that girl "Hey look at all these girls that like me. You thought I was lame? Look at this!" lol yeah it's unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:12 AM
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I will say I would date someone who's not pretty if they have a nice body, because I'm also in shape. Except, most women who aren't pretty who are in shape use makeup that makes them look really pretty. So, it's hard to find a girl who's ugly but also has a nice body who hasn't raised her standards because she's increased her league through makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:06 AM
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Eh, I don't really want a pretty woman with no body count. I want a pretty woman who makes me feel like I'm just as good as any man she's ever been with and preferably the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:03 AM
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I guess another factor is a lot of girls having domination fantasies, so my girl getting dominated by another man in the past is not a nice thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:01 AM
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I welcome women to have sex with me very open mindedly. They just don't most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:58 AM
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I don't see why people want to sit around in a relationship being 2nd place for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:55 AM
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I would never date a single mother though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:53 AM
1

Sometimes these thoughts go away when I actually meet someone. This line of thinking mainly pops up when I'm in a dry spell. It's a response to the bad treatment I've gotten lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:31 AM
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You have to understand that this motivation from ego comes from the fact that it's not made simple for me. If I had sex like I eat food and breathe air, I'm sure I'd acknowledge the other person and think about their pleasure from an empathy perspective, but women have not shown any empathy for me, so my only reason to make them happy is the glory of it. They never gave me the time of day easy so why should I pour my heart out when they just throw it away?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:29 AM
2

I think maybe if you're stressed about it a lot it might.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:26 AM
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So, technically we did "have a relationship" because I asked her out and she said we'd try it out, but we basically did nothing we didn't already do as friends and she gave me an awkward pity kiss and that was that. Then she ghosted me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:24 AM
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I don't really have the audacity to demand a celibate woman now, but I'm not going to love the girl if I know there's a chance she has fantasies of dudes better than me in her past.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:23 AM
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I don't feel entitled to it; I just wish I was such a stud that I never get rejected. By getting rejected, it breaks the illusion to me that I could be anyone's first choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:45 AM
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That's the way my mind is stuck on perceiving it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:43 AM
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I just wish I would have been born such a stud that I never get rejected whether I want casual sex or relationships. I wish I could just be this fun chill guy that never even has to think that a girl will say no because they just don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:42 AM
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I think women by nature are conquered by sex, and if they think that when they fuck a guy, he doesn't have a cheeky grin on his face in his mind thinking about how much of a stud he is, they are naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:36 AM
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I've been able to articulate it better in my mind. By getting rejected, I'm not the best man in the world. Pretty much I see casual sex as me not claiming a woman. When I claim a woman, I run the risk of the best man in the world coming around to steal her. This is the dilemma I'm in. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:34 AM
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In a lot of ways, I have moved on. But a part of me died with the end of our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:31 AM
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That is true. That's another part of it that I'm now able to better explain. Basically, if I get rejected, I'm not the best man in the world. I could choose two paths, either have casual sex and not claim a woman, or I could claim exclusivity to a woman, and run the risk of being betrayed when the best man in the world comes to steal her. So, I'm just afraid of this hypothetical man that's better than me coming along and screwing things up. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:30 AM
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I was just friends with her for 2 years man. I believed in the whole "slow burn of friendship" approach. I just feel like I failed the main quest and every girl I meet is just a side quest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:28 AM
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It is a weird contradiction, but I think I can explain it actually. In an ideal world, I would be a gigachad that never gets rejected. But, since I get rejected, that means I'm not the best man in the world, so if I claim a woman, the best man in the world might come around and steal her. At least if I don't claim a woman by having casual sex, I don't have to fall victim to the best man in the world stealing my girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:26 AM
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I mean, if women consider me inferior and delete me on snapchat every time I show them what I look like, maybe it's not a complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:19 AM
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No, I asked that crush out, she said "we'd try it out" for a couple weeks. After the couple weeks she ghosted me, and I remained a virgin. I lost my virginity to an escort at 19 after high school because I was frustrated at not being able to navigate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:18 AM
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Yeah, why would I want to even open someone up to the opportunity of hurting me? My past has shown they'll take it if the opportunity is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:15 AM
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I mean, a car remains mostly undriven until you get to it if you buy it new.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:14 AM
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I don't believe that there's a reasonable number of women to choose from who don't do casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:12 AM
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I guess now I just would like to feel like I can talk to women in good faith and have fun casual sex with them. Right now, it feels like I try to ask women for sex and they just make me feel like a freak for it when I know they don't give everyone that same treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:12 AM
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Now that I think about it, her being picky to a point that it would disqualify me is actually worse than if she was specifically attracted to a bunch of dudes who look just like me. I'd prefer her to have a high n-count of dudes on my level rather than feel like she had one dude who was the greatest dude ever and I could never compete. Preferably, I would be that dude for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:09 AM
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I've honestly been open to multiple dates, but most of my experiences have been one night stands. It wasn't my choice. I think it could be partially because with having no experience I'm not that good in bed, and so they ghost after one night, but that doesn't really help my experience, and the process continues itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:06 AM
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I just haven't seen anything to suggest that a good relationship is worth all the struggling and suffering a guy like me has to go through to get it. It can't be that good. Why risk my dignity for something that's just meh?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:04 AM
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It would be hard for me to trust that she's in the same boat as me, because when she decided that she'd get her fair share, she probably did a way better job at it than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:02 AM
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I just don't see how love is so good that it's worth risking your dignity. Better to strive to be Chad than actually have that happen to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:01 AM
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That is how it feels sometimes. 😔 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:00 AM
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I think it's more about situations where she's having casual sex in the courting process.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:58 AM
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I get that it's hypocritical, but for me it's a lot like the prisoner's dilemma. If no one's having casual sex, that's great and I'll gladly not have casual sex. If there are people having casual sex, and I'm trying to go about it in a romantic way, I'm just cucking myself. Basically, after my first crush that I wanted to marry rejected me, I decided that I'd rather have casual sex than be the romantic dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:57 AM
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That actually happened and I don't have a cuck fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:54 AM
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It's mainly about how dudes conceptualize their sexual conquests. I wouldn't want to be in a "one man's trash is another man's treasure" situation with a woman. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:51 AM
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If I could ever feel confident that it was her true motivation, then I would definitely at least feel for that woman. I don't think women sleep around for the same reasons as men though. Thinking about it now, it's more about the man winning against me than the woman. I don't want a dude to get one up on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:49 AM
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My dad is definitely a little OCD and he even self identifies as that. Is it not rational though? Like, you're not with someone 24/7. They could easily be cheating on you and make your lovey dovey dumbass into a fool. Not you personally just to be clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:44 AM
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I just don't feel comfortable with it. Even in the perfect scenario where you don't know she's cheating on you; she still could be and making a total fool of you. I'm just too paranoid now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:41 AM
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I would like for the pretty ones to be a little less hard for me to get, but maybe I wasn't born to be able to do that, which is stupid. I work so hard on my goals, so it's frustrating to think that there's something that I can't brute force effort myself into being good at lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:39 AM
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I don't care what other people think, I just don't want people to get one over on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:37 AM
0

I've just had some snapchat conversations where I'll be trying to flirt or tell a girl she's pretty, then she'll send me her with a picture of a dude she's with unsolicited. Like one time I said how pretty I thought this one girl was, then she sends me this picture of her and two other black dudes with their hand over their mouth like I'm a simp for calling her pretty and they're absolutely shocked. I've just had some dumb situations where dudes that women are seeing will randomly come out of no…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:34 AM
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I would have married my first crush, but I saw her as the one who got away. Then I had casual because I felt like I would never love again. And I still have never loved again because I feel like it's naive considering the wild shit people are into.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:31 AM
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When I was in high school, I wanted to marry my first crush, but when I found out she wanted to sleep around, I thought I should get my fair share because otherwise I'm just a romantic cuck. So, I did end up having some casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:30 AM
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Yeah, I know what that is. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:26 AM
3

For me it's not about the woman's past. It's more about the feeling that the dude getting slept with got one up on me by getting to you first. That especially feels true if he did some weird kinky stuff with you without much effort in the romantic date department. I don't want to be the romance guy for someone else's booty call. Can you understand how that's a humiliating situation for men to be in?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:24 AM
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I'm not a cuck fetish dude. I just have an obsession with avoiding being cucked. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:20 AM
3

I used to be a romantic guy. That was my natural state before I figured out that most other people weren't. I guess the generalization that men are the ones that want to sleep around all the time I think is silly. I would have married my first crush. It was her that wanted to sleep with more dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:13 AM
1

I think it goes beyond lying about transition status. Lying about being trans even post-op is included in the other commenter's reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:09 AM
1

I pretty much agree, but one question I would have is, does not having sex make your lifespan shorter?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:05 AM
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For me personally the physically sensation of sex is meh if I'm really honest with myself. It's the ego boost of getting with a hot girl that really does it for me. Sex makes men feel like "the man". It makes them feel like gods. Otherwise, they feel like they're just a boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:01 AM
3

You're coming at this all wrong. Men are the pursuers because they have less leverage in relationships. You can "deny your gender role" but unless if you look like a male model and are a celebrity, you probably aren't going to get "pursued" by women. When women complain about not getting approached, they aren't talking about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 11:25 PM
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Imagine you're Einstein and your girl goes and cheats on you with this hot nobody. How much does Einstein's prestige matter then? He still got cucked. Not saying Einstein ever got cucked, but yeah you could still be admired for your achievements, but romantic prowess is an entirely different category from every other achievement in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 11:14 PM
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I got most of my girls in college. I guess for me, I never felt like I made it, because it was never easy. I had to talk to tons of girls before I'd find one, but I did that enough to get with like 15ish girls and some of them were pretty attractive. I never felt like I truly "made it" though. Maybe I just never got to a high enough level to make it easy for me. That's pretty crazy to grow 3 inches in college though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:20 PM
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I don't think you can truly experience every category as one man. Some of this is probably in your head. If you are capable of being attractive, you're probably more attractive than you think even out of shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 05:06 PM
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I disagree that men have more influence in the LTR realm than in the casual sex realm. I think both categories are about the same. If you struggle on one front, you'll struggle on the other. If you don't struggle, you won't struggle on either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 05:03 PM
1

I myself really like when girls have wings on their eyeliner, and then, the "natural" look on everything else. hehe
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 03:49 PM
2

I would say a 5'7 dude can definitely be really strong compared to most average men, but 5'3 starts to get into the territory where you're reallllly lightweight and lightweights aren't very strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:01 AM
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Taller dudes have a higher capacity for putting on mass as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:01 AM
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Those men aren't lying, they just don't know what they're talking about. They think makeup is heavy eyeshadow and that's it. Now that I think about the average man though, I do think that sometimes they fall for the halo effect. Sometimes I'm thinking of the people here as representing society as a whole, but men and women outside of this subreddit aren't intellectuals like us. hehe
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:17 AM
0

Women are weak and need strong men to protect them. Taller people tend to be stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:11 AM
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I've thought about this. On some level we are all human, and women are like a small, weak, littler version of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:05 AM
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If they have a bunch of hot guy options, then I guess it could happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:01 AM
2

I would argue in some cases that "the ick" is actually just an excuse to not like a guy, but I do think an otherwise good looking guy can mess up his chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 11:48 PM
1

Honestly, I consider myself pretty crafty socially. The problem I run into feels like a leverage problem when I try to seduce women. They just have so many options when it comes to what I'm trying to offer them, that it's hard to come up with the right way to sell it. At any moment they could laugh you off and there's nothing you can really do because they have 5 guys lined up willing to offer the same thing. I try to be humble with this in mind, but I don't know if they really want me to presen…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 10:12 PM
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There is still a huge strength gap between men and women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:36 PM
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The thing is, I did want to be romantic with my first crush, but then she rejected me and made me jaded about it. Now I would prefer not to be made a punk again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:04 AM
3

And I think they actually believe they are justified in their awfulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:02 AM
2

For me it's only on the woman side of things. Have no problem with male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 09:33 PM
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They should make a university degree on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 09:24 PM
1

So, I should just walk up and be like "Hey I wanna fuck you and if it leads to a relationship that's fine with me as well." I don't think that would go over very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 09:18 PM
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This is a whole different topic, but I feel like women are actually more forgiving of dudes being a little chunky than being too skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 07:53 PM
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I'm saying that the illusion of better social skills comes from the woman essentially letting the man win. It's not because he's actually better at socializing. It's because the woman lets the jokes land and encourages him to keep going. Anyone is going to look socially inept if you give them a weird look whenever they tell a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:39 AM
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I don't think men think a fat woman is a bad person for being attracted to them though. Women will think that an ugly man is evil if they have the audacity to be attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:33 AM
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That's why I feel like going after Asian women sometimes because, beyond fetishizing race, they're just smarter on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 04:25 AM
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I have no problem being generally friendly to women and they seem to like me when I do that, but as soon as I reach out to try to pursue something romantic all of a sudden, I become a horrible person. When there's nothing on the line, I'm pretty chill. When I want to bang someone, suddenly there's high stakes and girls become closed off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 04:17 AM
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For sure, but I feel like I have no problem being charismatic to men, and if I built up a following, suddenly the clout chasing women would come.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 04:05 AM
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I think it's more that they gather an audience, and now people want to leech off their clout.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 04:03 AM
-5

I have above average intelligence, so maybe that's another reason I have trouble relating to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 04:02 AM
2

I agree with this. Women will treat a dude badly enough to make him tempted to pop off on her and a lot of them will take the bait. Then she'll be like "see! this ugly guy is a bad person too!" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:58 AM
24

I see a lot of comments on YouTube where somebody's like "omg that guy has so much rizz!" when really, he won from the start and almost anything he could say would work because the girl's feeling him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:56 AM
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The few times I've vibed with someone, they like my more extreme dirty talk. Then with some girls, I can't even make the tiniest innuendo before I get called out for being a pig.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:54 AM
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I'm more on the nature side when it comes to this. Some people just seem to have the good will of women for whatever reason. It's not even always looks. It eludes me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:45 AM
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I think this is a more established stereotype in men, but it's understated in women. Donating to those live streamers is a whole different issue though that I don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:37 AM
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That's pretty crazy. I feel like that's one of the problems I have with dating, I feel like I always embody the "pig" archetype in women's mind, rather than whatever archetype that girl's affair partners embody. For whatever reason I don't seem to inspire the goodwill of women a lot of times when it comes to pursuing relationships. They let the dudes they're having affairs with get around their strict moral compass, but then me it's like I'm walking on eggshells over here. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:33 AM
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You know what, I actually had a different thought. I don't necessarily think it's always about looks or lack of looks, but in my experience, trying to date women has always felt like an uphill battle where I have to find some trick or exploit to make it happen. For some reason, I feel like women would choose to be against me in almost any conflict. It's just constant. On the other hand, some guys, no matter how they look, for some reason women feel more relation to them and for whatever reason, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:27 AM
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I feel like charisma is the result of the whirlwind of self-fulfilling prophecy of being well received so you feel good, and feeling good makes you more well received and so on and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:23 AM
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I feel like society tells men enough times that they're horny bastards for them to have a little bit more self-awareness around this sort of thing than women. On the other hand, society tells women that they are pure-hearted and pick men based on personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:17 AM
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In a story/fantasy, but not in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:15 AM
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Yeah, men will laugh at an attractive woman's joke and know that they're being a cheeky bastard. It feels like women are under the delusion that hot dudes are actually funnier. There's lots of cases like that where I feel like men are more aware of their true motivations.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:14 AM
0

If I was a judge an attractive woman might even get a worse sentence. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:11 AM
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I consider this post more critical of men's desire for there to be some form of magic rizz that works every time than it is of womankind. In fact, you could even give women the benefit of the doubt for giving the cold shoulder to men they aren't attracted to by saying that they'd rather look rude than be perceived as "leading someone on" which is fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:09 AM
1

If you're a bigger girl, and your extra weight is distributed nicely, there are plenty of men that like that sort of build. A girl like that was my "one who got away". lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 05:00 PM
1

Women like who they like and give them positive reinforcement. Whenever I've had a girl who liked me, I could act as autistic as I wanted, and it still wouldn't have messed things up. On the other hand, when a girl doesn't like you, she will do everything in her power to make you look like a dumb dumb. When your friend tells a joke you don't think is funny, you can choose to laugh a little because it's your friend, or you can give this stone-cold look like it was a horrible joke. Women give the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:34 PM
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You can't publicly show it because it would make people who aren't getting it even more angry than they are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 05:36 AM
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Let's say you post you clubbing on your social media. A man will see that and think for sure you all went home and got banged by a random man that night. Even if you didn't do that, the energy in those types of posts is very boisterous and audacious. It's not hard to imagine that a night of hard partying ends in a night of naughty sex. I think a lot of men don't even understand the concept of having fun in that type of environment for the sake of just having fun. For me at least there's so many …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:56 AM
0

Well, the flattering clothes and Instagram posts part seems pretty obvious. Whether it's right or wrong to want this is beside the point, but basically, he sees your flattering clothes and Instagram posts as advertisements to other men. He thought you were done advertising your hot body when he met you. Now that he's with you though, he doesn't want anyone else knowing he stumbled upon a booty gold mine. Being drunk leads to bad decisions in general. I wouldn't recommend it even just from a heal…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:49 AM
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I somewhat agree, but no one ever really talks to your face about those things. If they think you're a creep, they'll probably just chatter a bit amongst themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:32 AM
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I think the problem was more that I approached very hot women that probably had lots of options. My philosophy was basically that, if I'm going to be seen in public with a woman, it may as well be the hot ones. haha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:26 AM
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I'm pretty sure most of the time I would do it on the same day. I had this strategy though where I would say "give me your number" rather than saying "can I have your number?" and I think when you ask that way it's easier for them to just give you the number and ghost later rather than say, no thanks. haha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:38 PM
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It's a funny thing to say lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 03:59 AM
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I was born in the late 90s, so I sorta remember the feeling of that time versus now. haha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 03:55 AM
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Mostly yes, but now you have to sift through lots of bots and my bot sniffer has gotten pretty good so I will swipe left on pretty attractive looking women if it's obvious they aren't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:44 AM
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There wasn't really any desperation with the girls I just met. I'd just be like "Hey it's *my name* from the *place we met*" and then they just wouldn't respond. I think a lot of girls find it easier to ghost rather than to reject to a guy's face.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:41 AM
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Do you think Chad would have better luck in person than dating apps? I feel like he actually would be better off on dating apps to an even greater extent since he can't possibly screw it up through his in-person conversation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:39 AM
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I did go on OkCupid for a while, and it's crazy it's like every Filipina was down to drop everything to date me lol. Considering that, but idk I think I can find a nice lady here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:38 AM
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Yeah, you're right. It's still kinda more brutal to face those rejections head on rather than what you don't know not hurting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:36 AM
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Haha yeah, I'm not a big believer of the women getting stretched out by multiple partners, but of course preferably she's gotta flex those muscles on it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:35 AM
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Haha in one comment you sell black women and the other one you sell obese women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:32 AM
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I know some people who have taken this approach. Not sure if they intentionally sought out someone like that, but I do think you're more likely to find a traditional big person or someone who will reason with you easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:31 AM
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I mean, I thought that would be an endearing quality, but just putting myself out there was not enough for the hot girls I was approaching lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 07:27 PM
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Isn't that kinda blue pilled? Just kidding I get ya. I just believe in trust but verify after delving into all this sort of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 07:26 PM
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Can you see how it's hard to find a balance point there though? Especially if you're a dude who gets rejected 9 times out of 10. It's easier to just shut down emotionally until you find someone who likes you back rather than getting your hopes up every time and being super interested from the get-go.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 07:23 PM
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You're right and maybe you find a girl who says she wasn't the town bike, but you never know if she's lying though man lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 07:19 PM
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There's also another perspective of the guy maybe even being a little bit more on the good-looking side, but the girl would rather pick the more exciting caveman looking biker gang dude or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 07:16 PM
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I basically agree and I think this is mostly a semantic issue. When men talk about good men struggling with dating, they're saying the dude probably helps Grandma cross the street to church every Sunday and donates a quarter of his salary to help cancer victims' recovery. On the weekends he volunteers for the homeless shelters, and he makes sure to call home to his family, so they don't miss him. The catch is, the dude is probably maybe like a 6/10 in the face, so you probably feel meh about him…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 07:12 PM
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Well for me as long as she remains loyal and cleans herself down there and it doesn't feel like throwing a hot dog through a hallway, it's fine. The reason I choose paternity fraud as the line is because I feel like that's the whole evolutionary reason we are concerned with high body counts. We just don't want to be literally cucked with offspring that come from another man. I can understand your thought process though, I just think that these days it's unrealistic to find a perfect virgin girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:54 PM
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Good in this context means "not causing any trouble or harm to other people".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:47 PM
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I've actually experienced this too and it messed with my mind. Like, I really want to put some magic moves down that blow every girl's mind, but it seems like they just let me win if they're interested and do everything in their power to make sure I fail and look awkward if they're not. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:45 PM
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I think one problem is, if you're a fit guy, you think, oh I just need to find a fit girl to match me. But unless you're a male model in the face, a fit girl is pretty hard to come by.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:39 PM
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So, I had a crush in high school that I was interested above all others, and I had been building feelings for her for 2 years, I wanted to marry her and be done with relationships... and she rejected me. It was traumatic. Could you imagine going through that process for every girl you're interested in? Just putting your heart on the line every time to get totally destroyed? At a certain point you wait for interest from them before you get your hopes up. Even with little investment, it still suck…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:35 PM
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One thing I would tell you is don't immediately think that you are this way. Try to be fluid and don't identify with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:27 PM
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If they're in the back of her mind you kinda are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:19 PM
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I've sorta accepted that women have high body counts these days. With that in mind, as long as I don't get literally cucked through paternity fraud, I've become content with the fact of high body count women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:12 PM
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When men say good, they're saying good in the way you'd say to a dog: "good boy!". Even if I inverse it to say what I think is a good girl, it wouldn't be in the context of dating, and I'd mostly think of how "well behaved" they are. Like when I think of the phrase "good girl" I think of a father being proud of his daughter and not anything sexual. Sure, if you say "good for sex" it's an entirely different connotation, but for me just the word "good" followed by guy or girl implies more of a mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:33 PM
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I mean, I've had some pretty normal conversations with some hot women when approaching them. What would happen is I would get their number and instead of rejecting me to my face they just wouldn't text back lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:13 PM
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All I know is I approached them, had a polite conversation, asked for their number at the end, they gave it to me, and then they didn't text me back.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:07 PM
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It was in college, and I would just approach them around campus. I do think the caliber of women I was approaching could have been making the rates a little harder for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:05 PM
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I've actually had that experience. Talked to this girl from my class, invited her to lunch, invited her back to my room after lunch to play video games, and then I lean in to kiss her and she backs away and I apologize. I offer to walk her back to class, and then expecting to never contact her again anyways, she got a no contact order against me with the school authorities. Like, I was just going to leave it be anyways. Why would she do me like that? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:51 PM
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I mainly got one night stands out of it. There was one good friend with benefits that was basically my closest thing to a relationship. We're still on pretty good terms even though she moved away. I used to do my cold approaches at the college buffet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:46 PM
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Usually, it would be a nice conversation first, and then I would ask for their number at the end and then they would just not respond when I went to text them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:45 PM
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Usually what happened was I would get their number at the end of the conversation and then when I went to text them, they just wouldn't respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:43 PM
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I used to approach women at the college buffet. We would have a nice conversation, I would get their number a lot of the time, but then they just wouldn't text back.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:41 PM
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I can relate to this line of thought lol. I've honestly been focusing on myself for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:40 PM
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You talked about men being more tactful when stating their preferences. I'm saying that men almost want the opposite from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:31 PM
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Yeah, you're right. The times I have had success, it almost felt like the girl was just letting me win, no matter how autistic I acted. I just wish it was more skill based rather than RNG based. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:17 PM
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I was just making the argument that I think the odds are better on dating apps than cold approaching, even though people claim otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:56 AM
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I don't think I completely disagree with you. It's just that, a stereotype about women is that they are more relationship inclined, so theoretically they'd be more willing if you actually wanted a relationship and to get to know them versus if you were just a hot guy who wanted to have sex with them for a night. What some dudes start to realize is that women want both at different times, and then all of a sudden, they feel cuckolded if they're the relationship type. At that point, they aren't th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:54 AM
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Kids in general are an ick for a lot of men, but when the kid doesn't look like you, you assume that she must not like guys like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:01 AM
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This might not be an example of that, but sometimes an otherwise normal relationship can be justified as abusive if she's looking for a better partner and needs a reason to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:53 AM
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I feel like that's an important aspect. If the man can make believe it's his kid, it's better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:25 AM
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This is probably too controversial to say for reddit, but in the case of a white woman having a half black baby, it's probably going to be harder for her to find a white guy that wants to shack up with her. Just saying it how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:24 AM
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I feel like cold approach luck is worse than dating app luck. I've gotten laid somewhere in the 10s of times and most of it has been from years of grinding dating apps. The one time I got laid from cold approach I lowered my standards facially, but she still had a killer body, and she was short so that was cute. I literally approached 100s of girls though and that was the one time I had success with cold approach. I feel like at least on online dating, you can get rejected that many times and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:59 AM
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Are the 2 kiddos the same race?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:50 AM
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Is the baby the same race as the guy she's dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:49 AM
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Usually, the only reason guys are virgins beyond religious or ethical reasons is just because they haven't found somebody who finds them attractive enough yet, which usually means they are unattractive for other reasons too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:43 AM
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I sorta agree, but in a shared activity where you come together over the mutual love of the activity, I feel like not much sales is involved in those interactions. At least not effort-wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:41 AM
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Part of my implication of morally good is that they're non-confrontational and not jerks. I think most men when they say "good partner" are referring to morally good. You basically look at them and say, they deserve more because they never did anyone wrong. That might be something in male culture that doesn't translate. Men like other men to be non-confrontational, but a woman might like a man to be confrontational because he'll scare off other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:12 AM
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I feel like I was kinda like this, but I've always had male friends for the most part. I don't think it's socialization I have issues with. When that socialization involves persuasion is the problem. Most people can talk to people about things if there's no goal in mind, but the second you enter salesman mode, "socialization" becomes much harder. That's the situation men are in, in dating. The salesman has to at least act like they're interested in their client beyond what they can get out of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:06 AM
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He's good because he's morally good. He's pure hearted and intentioned. It's either that or a guy who's jaded and not a "dumb dumb" because he's seen all the tricks before.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:49 PM
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I think men actually dislike the inverse of this when women talk about "finding themselves" when really, they're talking about getting spit roasted by 10 Chads in a foreign country. When men say "I want to find myself" it's genuinely a journey of self-exploration and it would be icky to include sex in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:21 PM
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I've had this problem, but I wouldn't say I see women entirely as objects to acquire. I just see sex as an achievement I want to unlock, but ultimately if the woman happens to be a nice person to be around, it's not like me feeling achievement from sex is mutually exclusive with having a proper relationship where I respect them as a person. I would prefer though that the sex comes upfront as a gesture of goodwill. I typically feel like women who want to have sex with me are on my side in life an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:16 PM
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