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| 1 | "Misandry doesn't kill men"Well, maybe, but you can spend forever arguing definitions, especially in identity politics. People tend to adopt whatever definition is most convenient to the current argument. | /r/MensRights | 20/05/26 01:42 PM |
| 18 | Has anyone noticed that there’s a correlation about the treatment of men and racism from the left?What you're outlining is most straightforwardly called double standards. Lots of people indulge in double standards in matters of identity politics. It's widely accepted. To play devil's advocate, the only real way to justify it is on the basis of historic injustice and group experience - to claim that the situation of different people is different based on their family history and that this justifies double standards. And sure, it is hardly controversial to suggest that different people have di… | /r/MensRights | 13/05/26 09:42 AM |
| 1 | Interpol runs initiative to identify unidentified murder victims (not men, obviously)Well, I think I understand more or less what you're saying (apologies for not replying in French). I'm not really sure why they make the differentiation between men and women here. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/26 08:14 AM |
| 3 | Outside of male genital mutilation, is it ever legal to mutilate someone without their consent (if it's not medically required)?Legitimate self-defence, although I think in most cases one would be well-advised to do as little damage as possible. | /r/MensRights | 13/08/25 07:27 PM |
| 1 | UK: Undercover police officers pose as joggers to crack down on men catcalling female runners. OP: The government and society appears to be at war with men and boys.Obviously this is pretty laughable in a world where you can't get a bike or phone theft looked into and I can't disagree with much of the commentary in this thread. That said I do wish they'd gone out and got no reaction whatsoever. I would never yell at women I happened to find attractive, not least because it's just... christ... do we not think it's pandering to popular prejudice? A bit low brow? I've never once witnessed it happening myself but I can't imagine I'd think anything but "that guy… | /r/MensRights | 13/08/25 05:47 PM |
| 11 | Let’s set the record straight on false accusations; what’s the deal? Should a man really be worried about this ?The problem is not that you are likely to be convicted. Even just as a matter of statistics, that is unlikely, because rape is so hard to prosecute in any event (and nobody likes that reality, much as it is a reality.) The problem is what will happen to you anyway. You will be publicly pilloried as an accused rapist, and there is very little you can do about it. You will lose huge amounts of money, your home, your relationships, your career, access to your kids (again: access to your kids) and i… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/25 10:32 PM |
| 2 | Do you feel it? The pushback is gaining traction.I think this is true of identity politics in general. I worry it isn't happening fast enough. I also worry it will overshoot - just like other aspects of identity politics did. We don't want to end up in a situation where non-straight-white-men are being shit on as acts of performative revenge. That has, at least in part, been what's happened over the last twenty years with straight white men as the target. We do not want yet another overcorrection in the opposite direction. Right now that might… | /r/MensRights | 07/05/25 09:01 PM |
| 2 | Turns out! Girls are actually more likely to show gender-bias than boys.See this video. | /r/MensRights | 07/05/25 01:42 PM |
| 0 | Turns out! Girls are actually more likely to show gender-bias than boys.Possibly it is more likely that girls will express gender bias more than boys. Boys know that if they express prejudice toward girls, they'll be burned at the stake for it. Girls know that if they express prejudice toward boys, they'll be congratulated for being a positive role model. I think it'd be difficult to tell who actually holds more prejudiced views though I wouldn't be surprised if women were nastier, for the same reasons. | /r/MensRights | 07/05/25 01:41 PM |
| 3 | Why is the majority Reddit opinion overwhelmingly feminist?Because it sounds good the first time you hear it and most people want to feel like they're doing the right thing. A lot of culture-war stuff has become expert at presenting itself as the right thing to do, and social media is very, very good at pushing ideas at people. People probably should be forgiven for being taken in, at least to an extent. | /r/MensRights | 06/05/25 07:08 AM |
| 2 | Twisted middle school teacher who ‘raped 12-year-old student for YEARS’ caught after cops uncover chilling textsNot to quibble, but how can you do anything to a twelve year old for years? | /r/MensRights | 02/05/25 11:21 AM |
| 2 | Women thinking they're entitled to physically assault men and get away with it.Get professional legal help. Say absolutely nothing more to anyone on this until you have that. Bear in mind what you've said on here is probably enough for the police to identify you, and they will use your posting history against you, as they will use everything else against you. Again: shut up and get a lawyer. Do nothing else. | /r/MensRights | 02/05/25 09:04 AM |
| 46 | (US) Is it really that easy for a woman to get a man thrown in jail over just words alone and no further investigation? For example, false allegations? (R*pe, domestic violence)In many jurisdictions, yes, you will very certainly be arrested on the basis of one person's accusation, especially concerning such a serious crime. When this happens you will be publicly named as a rape suspect, even if there is absolutely no evidence beyond someone's word, even if you're let out the following day because there's no evidence to support holding you. This goes for a lot of crimes, not just rape. Either way, the process is the punishment. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/25 12:05 AM |
| 2 | Do you think it's right for feminists to use men's rights issues to support their ideology?This is not a new issue. These arguments are based entirely on the claim that (for instance, in this case) homosexuality is seen as feminine and society sees femininity as negative. I don't think that's true (I think society puts femininity on a pedestal) but no matter what anyone thinks, it certainly isn't established by the argument you mention. It's all based on people's underlying thinking about how society works and as such begs the question, in the strict sense of a logical fallacy in whic… | /r/MensRights | 30/04/25 07:19 AM |
| 43 | Im a half feminist in the sense that i agree with the term and the overall meaning but not the fact that most female feminists in the 21st century are such horrible peopleThe problem is that nobody controls what the word feminism means. The meaning most often given for it is not objectionable. What people actually do in its name is, too often, highly objectionable. It's a wolf in sheep's clothing - people who self-identify as feminists often say one thing, and do another, and it is frequently used as a flimsy cover for some extremely unpleasant prejudice and revenge politics. I hesitate to make absolute claims, but I am largely an egalitarian. That makes me a bet… | /r/MensRights | 29/04/25 07:43 PM |
| 6 | What are the most and least talked about double standards?Personal physical safety. Obviously, nobody wants to see anyone get hurt, man or woman, and the kinds of risks that men and women face are often very different. All of that is important and worth bearing in mind. But the idea that women in general are less safe than men, whether we're thinking about crime, disease, workplace safety, or other issues... is an absolute fantasy. More or less the entire world seems to work on the assumption that the world is less safe for women than it is for men and… | /r/MensRights | 27/04/25 04:30 AM |
| 2 | "Misandry doesn't kill men"It's so easy to respond to this it's barely worth doing. The suicide statistics. Deaths in war. Deaths in the workplace. For decades, in many jurisdictions, women retired earlier, but lived longer. The problem is that anyone raising these arguments knows all this. This stuff is so obvious it's barely worth saying. If this has not affected anyone's thinking to date (and it really hasn't) then it's barely worth raising. You are very unlikely to get an honest, meaningful discussion out of the situa… | /r/MensRights | 29/12/24 10:36 PM |
| 3 | How many other gay men are here?I suspect there's lots of people here that you'd call liberal. I'm from a major developed country that isn't the USA and as such my politics is probably vastly left of centre from what the average American is used to. I take the view that much of modern identity politics is neither progressive, liberal, nor left-of-centre. Making everything about race, gender and sexuality is not a liberal position. It's a hard right position. | /r/MensRights | 05/12/24 05:00 PM |
| -3 | Women =/= feministsMuch as I understand your general thinking here, I think you need to be a bit more careful how you describe things, because you risk alienating otherwise supportive people. Nobody really controls what the word "feminist" means. A lot of people will self-identify as feminist without really having given it much thought, and many of them will not hold the most unpleasant views which have been espoused by people claiming to be feminist. I mean, I'm happy to be described as an egalitarian, which make… | /r/MensRights | 03/12/24 06:28 PM |
| 1 | Walmart says "goodbye" to DEI policy. What are your thoughts on this?I'm glad you've said some of that because it needs discussing. I live in the US and the UK might be different but that very grim history is still the present for many people. Someone refusing the pull up the proverbial ladder when people like them have worked hard and are trying to get an opportunity isn't a revenge trip. This gets to the very core of the issue. The problem you're creating is that the people who are being denied access to (say) training or advancement are not going to be the peo… | /r/MensRights | 03/12/24 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Walmart says "goodbye" to DEI policy. What are your thoughts on this?The last straw for me was a situation I encountered in a union. For a long time the only group of people they would not train were white men. They ran several initiatives described as "for women and minorities," which sounds good unless you state it the same thing in the negative case: "no white men." This was actually against the union's own rules on equality, but it went on for years. I was a committee member with responsibility for new entrants to the industry and as such I was often approach… | /r/MensRights | 02/12/24 03:39 PM |
| 1 | Walmart says "goodbye" to DEI policy. What are your thoughts on this?What you're saying simply isn't the position I'm taking, and I think most people are taking, on this. I'm here mostly because I saw young guys being excluded from things like training programs on the basis that they were white and male. There was plenty of room on these courses - the people organising them just wanted to make a political point. The attendees would typically be in their early twenties and it's obviously impossible for them to have contributed to or benefited from a situation whic… | /r/MensRights | 02/12/24 09:27 AM |
| 1 | Walmart says "goodbye" to DEI policy. What are your thoughts on this?I wish someone would tell me what they're objecting to, here. Use your words! | /r/MensRights | 02/12/24 01:15 AM |
| 5 | Sen. John Fetterman says fellow Democrats lost male voters to Trump by ‘insulting’ them, being ‘condescending’For what it's worth I'm moderately left of centre even for the not-the-USA country where I live, which makes me the next best thing to Karl Marx in a USA context. When this stuff starts to piss me off, something is wrong. I don't like the monodimensional, left-to-right way people talk about politics anyway. It's ludicrously oversimplified. Either way, though, I don't think modern social justice can really be described as a child of traditional socialism. Obsessing over people's innate characteri… | /r/MensRights | 02/12/24 01:11 AM |
| 5 | Sen. John Fetterman says fellow Democrats lost male voters to Trump by ‘insulting’ them, being ‘condescending’I've been trying to clue people in on this for years. Don't get me wrong; Trump is horrifying, and if you want to downvote me for that, do your worst, but that's not the point. The point is that the actions of the people who most dislike the guy have almost certainly played directly into his hands. It's mad, even from their point of view. I think it happens with race more than gender, but the result is the same. Generalise about people, berate them for holding views they don't hold, claim they'r… | /r/MensRights | 02/12/24 12:59 AM |
| 8 | Walmart says "goodbye" to DEI policy. What are your thoughts on this?I'll vote that back up one. It's true. One of the things that irks me most about this is that it could not have happened without the support of straight, white, able-bodied, middle-class men. I've met many successful men who are more than willing to say all the right things. What matters is that they are high earners in a very secure position who will not face any disadvantage from the policies they are implementing. In short, they are rich, successful people, parroting the required political li… | /r/MensRights | 01/12/24 04:41 PM |
| 0 | Walmart says "goodbye" to DEI policy. What are your thoughts on this?I never had much faith in humanity to begin with. If you look at it with a bit of historical perspective, it's shockingly clear that DEI is just the latest in an apparently endless chain of tribal unpleasantness which has characterised our society for at least several thousand years, and probably as long as there's been anything recognisably human on this planet. The thing to realise about DEI is that it's not special. It's not unique, and the people who push for it are not innovators. They're j… | /r/MensRights | 01/12/24 04:35 PM |
| 13 | Walmart says "goodbye" to DEI policy. What are your thoughts on this?The goal of DEI is to eventually create a situation where merit trumps all The problem is that this just isn't what a lot of people actually experience. What most people experience is that DEI means implementing policies specifically and solely to disadvantage white men, which is not fair. There is a big gap between what people argue for, and what people actually do. We need to find a middle ground on this and that is going to start with the DEI lobby accepting that the term has been misused and… | /r/MensRights | 01/12/24 04:30 PM |
| 12 | Walmart says "goodbye" to DEI policy. What are your thoughts on this?The problem is that what you're saying has long been the ideal, but it isn't what's actually been happening in people's real lives. I've been part of organisations which excluded people on the basis of race and gender, where race meant "white" and gender meant "male". That's nothing to do with accepting anyone or helping minorities. That's unacceptable bigotry, and I'd argue the same if it meant "black" and "female." The world has to find a middle ground on this stuff. That will involve both sid… | /r/MensRights | 01/12/24 04:27 PM |
| 1 | Attractive Female Students’ Grades Plummet When Classes Go Remote—Here’s Why - Sinhala GuideI'm not so much thinking of the confidence, but the looking tidy. Whether it helps any person feel confident or not, it still has an effect on how other people see you. I'm not here to say that's good - actually it's shallow - but it remains a reality. I know several good, capable people whose careers have been limited by their unwillingness to crank it up beyond the jeans-and-hoodie level. | /r/MensRights | 28/11/24 10:34 AM |
| 0 | Attractive Female Students’ Grades Plummet When Classes Go Remote—Here’s Why - Sinhala GuideWhy would anyone downvote that? | /r/MensRights | 27/11/24 10:45 AM |
| 5 | Attractive Female Students’ Grades Plummet When Classes Go Remote—Here’s Why - Sinhala GuideI don't know for sure, but I would speculate that probably it's largely a subconscious thing. If you're marking a math test, that's pretty objective. If you're marking an essay, it's extremely subjective, to the point where you might not know you were showing favouritism, and you certainly wouldn't know why you were doing it. I doubt most teachers are deliberately doing this and would probably react pretty negatively if they were accused of doing it deliberately (there probably are a few who are… | /r/MensRights | 27/11/24 10:43 AM |
| 4 | UK: Drink Spiking Will Be Made A Criminal Offence Under Labour Bid To Protect Women And GirlsAs ever I'm a bit concerned by the use of the word "feel." Women and girls already feel a lot less safe than men feel, whereas on average, they are a lot more safe than men are. There can be, and often is, a difference between what people feel to be true, and what actually is true. Men and women face different risks and it's completely reasonable to address those risks, but if we keep pushing the narrative of female victimhood, then women will continue to feel at risk, no matter what happens to … | /r/MensRights | 25/11/24 11:53 PM |
| 33 | As a feminist I might be over looking the men's issue. So tell me what are they?You're pretty much listing the standard talking points of men's rights. I actually avoid discussing those points, not because they're wrong, but exactly because they're the standard talking points. Everyone knows this stuff. It's hardly news. Like at least one other person in this thread has said, I'm an egalitarian, which makes me an activist for everyone's rights. It also makes me a feminist, by the common definition of feminism (I'd argue a lot of people who self-describe as feminists don't r… | /r/MensRights | 25/11/24 10:53 PM |
| 7 | UK: Drink Spiking Will Be Made A Criminal Offence Under Labour Bid To Protect Women And GirlsIt is. Oddly enough the UK has laws against poisoning people. Pouring laxatives into people's coffee, like you see in dimwitted American comedies, is also illegal. People have been prosecuted for doing that. On one hand, I'm astounded people don't understand that poisoning people has been specifically illegal for much longer than any currently-living person has been alive, and illegal as an assault even before that. On the other, the way this is being talked about suggests that it's somehow been… | /r/MensRights | 25/11/24 10:37 PM |
| 29 | UK: Drink Spiking Will Be Made A Criminal Offence Under Labour Bid To Protect Women And GirlsIt is illegal. It's been illegal since at least 1861 when they passed the Offences Against the Person Act. It would also be illegal under various other laws. Oddly enough it's illegal to poison people and has been for a very long time. Nobody should be surprised. Enacting specific legislation to ban things which are already illegal is some of the worst and most damaging kind of virtue signalling. | /r/MensRights | 25/11/24 10:33 PM |
| 8 | mensright supporters: whats your least favortie mensright leader/poltical/spokes person?Andrew Tate. The man hands endless ammunition to some very unpleasant people and it's completely unnecessary. Ultimately he does nobody any good, least of all men. | /r/MensRights | 16/11/24 03:36 PM |
| 9 | Turns out there's a huge double standard in the UK a woman can't be charged with RapeStrictly speaking sexual assault is gender neutral in the UK here. There's also an offence of "assault by penetration" which in theory could be committed by a woman. The word "rape" is only used in relation to penetration with a penis, though, so you need to have a penis in order to be a rapist, by definition. You might ask the question why there needs to be a separate offence of rape when we have an offence of assault by penetration, and you'd be... well, asking a pretty sensible question, ther… | /r/MensRights | 16/11/24 03:35 PM |
| 1 | whats your experience with Misandry in your life?There's not a hell of a lot you can do. If you want to push against it, you can do that, but you do it very, very gently, and very, very politely, so as not to play up to the stereotype of the out of control angry man. But until you have some seniority, I'd caution against even that. If you happen to have your eye on a job that's stereotypically done by men and you know it's being targeted by some group or organisation which wants more women in it, well, that's going to disadvantage you. What's … | /r/MensRights | 16/11/24 03:32 PM |
| 8 | whats your experience with Misandry in your life?I encounter it a lot at work; they're usually careful to get around the law (I've watched them plot to get around the law) but the degree to which modern women are willing to plot to keep men out of things is absolutely revolting. I should say - this doesn't really affect me, I've been in it long enough, but I watch it affecting younger guys all the time and it is horrible. These guys are totally blameless and have done nothing wrong. | /r/MensRights | 14/11/24 08:26 PM |
| 16 | One third of American Adults Have Never Been MarriedI think a lot of people (including us) are doing long term, effectively-marriage stuff, just not putting a ring on it. | /r/MensRights | 14/11/24 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Study that shows male nursing staff work overtime and longer hours is reported as gender pay gapI mean, to be fair, that might be because the women had childcare responsibilities. I don't associate women with laziness. The point, of course, is that childrearing is a choice. | /r/MensRights | 13/11/24 01:39 PM |
| 1 | Study that shows male nursing staff work overtime and longer hours is reported as gender pay gapThere's constraints on everyone. The issue is why, how, and whether or not anyone thinks that's okay. Personally I take the position that so long as nobody's being coerced into doing anything they don't want to do, it's all good, and that is largely the case in the developed world. The objections really arise from why people are in the situations they're in, how much of that arises from personal choice and how much of it is imposed on people by society, and how fair anyone thinks any of it is, w… | /r/MensRights | 13/11/24 01:31 PM |
| 3 | Keeping it togetherClarification: strictly speaking, a man can be raped in the UK. The point is that a woman can't be a rapist, because it's described as "penetration with the penis" per the Sexual Offences Act 2003. A man can rape another man. In principle, a woman could be convicted of a very serious sexual assault in the context of an effective rape of a man, because there is a separate offence called "sexual assault by penetration" which can be committed by a woman, but you can imagine how often that happens. | /r/MensRights | 12/11/24 08:17 PM |
| 13 | Young men facing high unemployment are "unable to adapt": a new emerging anti-male narrative around the economic issues affecting menDoes it strike anyone else that this woman is likely to be provoking exactly the opposite result to the one she claims to be going for? That conclusion is so obvious that I'd almost interpret what she's doing as a grift. Radicalise a load of men by being inexcusably impolite about them, then get paid to undo it. | /r/MensRights | 12/11/24 08:11 PM |
| 17 | “I’m just a girl” is the new “boys will be boys”I was just commenting below to this effect - I think it's a caricature of a not-so-golden age that barely existed in the first place. These people seem to think Pleasantville is a documentary. It's barely within living memory at this point. Even the youngest young adults in the 50s will be in their nineties by now. Yes, it got gradually less bad, roughly between then and now. World War 2 was possibly the watershed. It's totally valid to say that everyone's impression of this will be different an… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/24 07:39 PM |
| 1 | “I’m just a girl” is the new “boys will be boys”Ehhh. I'm not so sure. The sort of cultural spaces you mention, which are predicated greatly on stereotypically macho behaviour, do exist. I'd accept that they're vastly less common. There are very specific enclaves of it in my industry, and my partner works in a field which is soaked through with it. She just laughs about it; she rises above it, which of course is exactly the right response. I'm not sure I could do that, or that I'd want to work in a field where that was the case (is she more m… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/24 07:30 PM |
| 5 | Warren Farrell: Trump won because Democrats keep telling young men they’re dangerous and don’t matter | OpinionThis stuff is bad for everyone. I can't go into the details for reasons of identifiability, but my (female) partner does a very stereotypically masculine job that's widely seen as attractive and exciting. She is occasionally asked to give talks on that subject to youth organisations and she often meets young women who want to do it. Almost exclusively those young women have been put off actually applying for this role, which they are entirely free to do, because their brains are full of a narrat… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/24 06:03 PM |
| 2 | Warren Farrell: Trump won because Democrats keep telling young men they’re dangerous and don’t matter | OpinionI haven't seen the terrible commercials. Well, I've seen some terrible commercials, but being not-USA I have to go and seek them out. What were you thinking of? | /r/MensRights | 12/11/24 01:14 PM |
| 27 | Warren Farrell: Trump won because Democrats keep telling young men they’re dangerous and don’t matter | OpinionYou're absolutely right. I'm not an American, so I don't get a say, but given the importance of the USA on the world stage, the US presidency effects us all. Being a non-American first-worlder, I am also a very long distance from right-of-centre on politics. By American standards, I'm the second coming of Marx. I'm utterly horrified by the buffoon Trump and the violent swing to the right he represents. The USA always seems alarmingly right wing by the standards of the rest of the developed world… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/24 12:43 PM |
| 7 | "How women are bearing the brunt of the male loneliness epidemic"To be fair (fairer than they deserve) they honestly wouldn't see it like that. You can call it cognitive dissonance, and you might be right, but I suspect that most of this stuff comes from one person's individual experiences, which they're generalising completely grotesquely into every guy in existence. I suspect if you addressed your question the author of this, you'd get a "oh not everyone is like that," which is about the most ringingly ironic response possible in the context of not-all-men,… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/24 12:35 PM |
| 1 | Is AI actually unbiased until it is taught to have bias?AI has the bias of the training data it was fed. How you select that training data makes a very large difference to how the AI will behave. That's genuinely a very significant area of concern and a lot of research is done on it. Even identifying biased or unbiased training data is hard because "bias" is a very woolly term. Most current AIs come out of the USA which (at least politically) has a very, very hardline anti-guy, pro-woman position on issues of social justice and as such they often sho… | /r/MensRights | 06/11/24 10:15 AM |
| 5 | The crisis of men and boys: TheTinMen meets Richard V ReevesIs it even true that women make less than men on an hourly basis, at least in the cohort that's young enough to have grown up in the last few decades? | /r/MensRights | 04/11/24 12:15 PM |
| 2 | What’s it really like being a man in today’s workplace?I'm only here because I was essentially thrown out of my union over this stuff (no, it didn't affect me professionally in the slightest, I just don't do much voluntary work anymore). | /r/MensRights | 04/11/24 02:34 AM |
| 3 | Literally almost beat up for taking pictures on the sidewalk at HalloweenI'm 6'3". This very rarely happens to me. That's probably a good thing, since I'm actually made out of damp, uncooked pastry and wouldn't have the faintest idea what to do in a physical confrontation. | /r/MensRights | 04/11/24 02:33 AM |
| 8 | Are MEN to blame for the UK fertility crisis? Women want children but are forced into freezing their eggs due to the 'mating gap' - where they can't find a partner to commit OP: More male hate!Somewhere in that photograph, behind the wall of makeup, is a woman. I'm sure many people would consider her conventionally attractive, but I wouldn't go within ten feet. If I met my partner one day and she was wearing that much slap, I'd ask if she was okay. | /r/MensRights | 30/10/24 12:40 PM |
| 1 | Initiative named "... For Women" has equality policyOh, I understand. I would say to both groups of people that their problems are probably not really with members of the opposite sex, but with just some of them, or often one of them, so segregating things still isn't really a good idea or necessary. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/24 07:54 AM |
| 5 | Initiative named "... For Women" has equality policyThey do run a limited number of integrated events at which men are welcome; most of their events are segregated. (They don't like it when you call it "segregated.") On that basis I'd agree with you to an extent, although the idea of "men's sheds" in the UK has faced stern criticism on the basis of its name, despite being perfectly happy to admit anyone to any event (actually - edit - I discover some hints that some of them don't admit women, which is idiocy and entirely counterproductive. Sheesh… | /r/MensRights | 23/10/24 04:41 PM |
| 3 | "Dutch feminists campaign for national monument to ‘witches’"... No, really...!Couldn't agree more. I think it's fine to put up a memorial to people who were killed in these ludicrous situations. At least some of the people killed for being associated with the occult were likely to have been mentally ill and what was done to them hardly bears thinking about. This is not necessarily a bad idea, though as ever it does overlook male victims. | /r/MensRights | 05/10/24 08:34 AM |
| 1 | Why does this article seem to go against boys succeeding in real life?I thought making women obey, to use her term, was a bad thing (and obviously it is, in general). | /r/MensRights | 05/10/24 07:17 AM |
| 1 | I don't feel bad for her at all. She was basically bashing men the whole time but when got called out, she started crying56%? Christ. I think that requires a really uncritical definition of what's a mental illness. But yes, what's really critical here is that the sort of victimhood we're talking about actually does hurt people. If you persuade people the world is out to get them, they suffer psychologically for real. When most of these people claim to be having a horrible time, they're probably telling the truth. Unfortunately, phrases like "it's all in your head" don't go down very well, true as they often are. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/24 08:48 AM |
| 3 | Describe your experience of bias as a boy in favor of girls.Mid-90s. I was at school. "Girls only" day in the school computer lab during the lunch hour. Result: empty computer lab. Little did I know how bad it would get. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/24 08:36 AM |
| 21 | So in the world, if girls outperform boys in school, it's because they are smarter but if it's the reverse, it's patriarchy?Not exactly the most recent references, but it's not a new issue. For a start, we know that teachers mark girls higher than boys for the same work (source, source), so it isn't even necessarily true that the girls are doing better, or at least not by as much as people think. It's quite possible that at least a part of this is due to the fact that the girls are being patted on the head and told they're clever when they're not, which is pretty patronising on the face of it. But even if that wasn't… | /r/MensRights | 04/10/24 08:34 AM |
| 1 | UK: Extreme misogyny to be treated as terrorismA number of reasons, including but not limited to: It won't make anyone safer. Deciding to use a more loaded and emotive term to refer to something doesn't make it less likely to happen. Most of the things we call "terrorism" in a wider sense are already crimes. Law should be as simple as possible (it's already way too complicated). Complexity creates loopholes and unexpected outcomes we may not want, especially when it's being done mainly for political reasons (see point #1 above). Some people … | /r/MensRights | 19/08/24 08:00 AM |
| 4 | UK: Extreme misogyny to be treated as terrorismThis is a government which tolerates this woman. Her hypocrisy is eyewatering. This is no surprise. | /r/MensRights | 18/08/24 01:07 PM |
| 8 | UK: Extreme misogyny to be treated as terrorismTo answer your question directly, because of exactly the sort of thing you've just said. The idea that posters to r/mensrights on average oppose positive steps toward anyone's safety is absurd. That's not the view that is being proposed here and I think you know that. When you say things like that, you add fuel to the fire in a way that doesn't help anyone, men or women. | /r/MensRights | 18/08/24 01:03 PM |
| 13 | Yes, men's clothes is still much more restrictive than women's - in all cases.I'm not sure I entirely agree with this. It depends whether you consider what people wear to be entirely a choice, which clearly it isn't, for either men or women. In principle there are no rules about this where I live and I could wear girls' gear if I wanted to. There's nothing formally stopping me. Women certainly have more choices. In many areas, from expressing feelings to clothing to choice of work, it is more socially acceptable for women to behave in a stereotypically masculine manner th… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/24 09:08 AM |
| 4 | Women Aren't Happy With Australian HealthcareI dropped by with the intention of posting about this article, if someone else hadn't already. It's actually one of those things I'd rather discuss over on r/feminism because I think the line being pushed is as bad for women as it is for men, but I don't think that'd be a very productive idea. What you say is entirely correct, but I'd go a bit further. The opening section, talking about a woman named Heidi Metcalf, is particularly disturbing. Obviously, the situation Metcalf was in was horrible,… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/24 11:29 AM |
| 1 | Women aren’t talking to men because of “poor conversations skills”My partner of fifteen plus years and I bonded over our jobs, which is how we met. That would have been seen as very inappropriate now, of course. | /r/MensRights | 04/06/24 01:05 PM |
| 5 | We should wear the man vs bear as a badge of honour.Next time a woman asks you to do something, say "get a bear to do it." It's a decent bit of wit if she's in the mood for a laugh, and if she's inclined to take offence, well, you've discovered someone you'd rather not have anything to do with. | /r/MensRights | 04/06/24 12:32 PM |
| 2 | Even though the "WASPI" women in the United Kingdom were not discriminated as a result of their sex but simply due to the incompetence on behalf of their own government, "Radical Feminazis" in the article's comments section are still complaining about the supposed "Misogyny" of the entire ordeal.To be completely, scrupulously fair, this is not entirely about that. The claim some of these women are making is that the rules were changed after they'd been paying into pensions for a long time, and they may not have had enough time to take corrective action in order to get exactly what they'd always planned to get. There is some truth to that. The problem is, this is sort of inevitable. If anyone's going to ever change the pension rules, this is going to happen, unless there's somehow a way … | /r/MensRights | 22/03/24 09:42 AM |
| 4 | Nothing #inspiresinclusion like bragging about the vast majority of counsellors not being menWhen women aren't present, we must ask: "If not, why not?" Let's start here. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/24 09:28 AM |
| -6 | Has anyone noticed a lot of homophobic insults about gay men from woke people, including feminists?Not really, I have to say. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/24 09:27 AM |
| 1 | Male SA - What are your experiences?I can't claim to have been severely assaulted but I work in an industry which is perpetually full of very touchy-feely people who like to greet even comparative strangers with a hug. I don't like it and often have to fend people off. I suspect many women would consider an unwanted hug to be inappropriate touching and thus sexual assault. I suspect many of those same women would argue it doesn't count when they do it. | /r/MensRights | 15/03/24 08:22 AM |
| 2 | Did you used to consider yourself somewhat socially liberal until you got older and realized how toxic and misandrist the left was?I am socially liberal. I'd argue that what considers itself the left these days increasingly doesn't represent a socially liberal point of view; I don't entirely agree with u/duhhhh, who suggests "the left" has changed, but I think certain people have co-opted part of the left and made it into something awful. As far as I can tell the traditional left does still exist and is still campaigning for workers' rights, which is fine. Still, people can't realistically start enacting policies which excl… | /r/MensRights | 15/03/24 08:11 AM |
| 27 | My teacher's career ruined by a false accusationMost men are very aware of this sort of situation. It reduces the willingness of adult men to have anything to do with women, particularly young women, particularly where there's a large and visible imbalance of seniority. I work in an industry which is widely seen as interesting and fun. It's largely run by freelancers and training has long been ad-hoc, based on informal internships. Interested youngsters may feel they have little choice but to work long hours for little or no money under the a… | /r/MensRights | 12/03/24 10:06 PM |
| 10 | Robbed and won’t press charges on the womanThere is a large and unfortunate crossover between people who perceive modern critical social justice for what it is, and what you refer to as MAGA loons. I don't like the left-to-right characterisation of politics, but for the sake of brevity I'm a moderately left-of-centre individual by European standards, and thus a very left of centre individual by USA standards, and, well, here I am, posting on /r/mensrights. I honestly don't want the MAGA loons involved in this because it makes our concern… | /r/MensRights | 09/03/24 03:23 PM |
| 2 | A recent scientific study actually concluded that women(especially the ones of reproductive age), prefer men with more "Masculine" facial features, debunking "Feminazi" notions about men supposedly enforcing specific beauty standards and traditional gender norms.Hang on, is this a story about how a majority of women find stereotypically masculine men sexually attractive? What next, sky blue, film at eleven? | /r/MensRights | 07/03/24 09:56 AM |
| 2 | At CalArts, while completing an MFA and having my films broadcast on PBS, I was denied access to become a faculty member because I was a man who was raped by a woman.Well, my experience wasn't in a university, which is sort of the problem. One of the issues we face here is that our views will be mischaracterised as an expression of some pre-existing right-wing political bias, which in my case at least it certainly isn't. This stuff is getting so nasty, so mean-spirited, so directly prejudicial, that it's starting to seriously irritate very moderate people. It has been called the soft fascism of the new left, but I don't think it's much to do with traditional… | /r/MensRights | 07/03/24 12:37 AM |
| 13 | At CalArts, while completing an MFA and having my films broadcast on PBS, I was denied access to become a faculty member because I was a man who was raped by a woman.I can't claim to have been seriously sexually assaulted by anyone and my experiences are trivial in comparison, but your conclusions mirror mine. I was part of an organisation with responsibility for protecting workers' rights and induction of young people. We had spent years (literally) planning training and experience days for the youngsters and in the end the organisation was running those events for young women only. I saw all of the arguments you mention deployed in defence of it. I left. A… | /r/MensRights | 06/03/24 07:27 PM |
| 3 | Why young men are being pushed into the mens rights movementI've also said Tate (and Trump, etc) are a symptom, and made many of the same points made in this video. It's not necessarily plagiarism. It's not even a new idea. | /r/MensRights | 02/03/24 07:52 PM |
| 2 | SO Sick Of Hearing About The "Patriarchy"Female gender roles have not been completely eradicated. The issue is how much anyone (or most people) want to eradicate them, inasmuch as men and women, on average, have different life goals. Still, you can't say it's gone entirely. It isn't, for good or bad. | /r/MensRights | 01/03/24 12:15 PM |
| 1 | SO Sick Of Hearing About The "Patriarchy"Oh, you're fine. I suspect what you'll find here is that there's occasionally a post from someone who's had a bad breakup with a girl and wants to blame all women for the hideous blot of agony at the centre of his soul. Similar things happen over on /r/feminism and much as it is not right, I think level-headed people should try to ignore it in both cases. Beyond that I'd be really interested in what your impression is of this place. I'm never quite sure how to react to it. Some of it I like, som… | /r/MensRights | 01/03/24 12:14 PM |
| 0 | Debunking the "Feminist" narrative in regards to the so called "Orgasm Gap":While Heterosexual men are indeed significantly more likely to experience orgasm(92%-95%), the overwhelming majority of Heterosexual women do so as well(65%-68%).I'm with /u/KA_82205. I guess my question would be... even if the claim is true, what on earth am I supposed to do about it? | /r/MensRights | 28/02/24 10:01 AM |
| 1 | Why do women defend guilty women ?For the same reason that my own mother deflects concerns about the huge rate of violence against men by saying "it's men doing it!" I don't think there's a lot of actual consideration going on here. You could say they don't really mean it, although they're willing to say it a lot, which suggests to me that they do mean it, they just don't care. In short, the world has taught these people that they are forever victims (which is as bad for them as it is for anyone else, and it's pretty bad for eve… | /r/MensRights | 28/02/24 09:58 AM |
| 0 | Genuinely the most insane article I have ever readPoe's law applies here, I think. | /r/MensRights | 24/02/24 12:18 PM |
| 18 | Teacher attitude about ‘Mediocre White Boy Behavior’This is a very important truth. I've said it a million times, and I'm going to keep saying it: the problem is not the real hardline feminist extremists, the hardcore crazy people. There are more of them than there have ever been, I think in part thanks to social media, but there's still not really that many overall. The problem isn't the extremists. The extremists will always exist. You can't entirely rid the world of crazy people. The problem is that in this particular branch of politics, a lot… | /r/MensRights | 23/02/24 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Menopause warriors can sue you if they don't get what they "need".I think the point is that /u/TopDownRunner really was saying that people with legitimate health issues shouldn't be allowed off work, which is what I was disagreeing with. Really bad periods are a legitimate health issue, as I'm sure everyone agrees. Everyone picks up extra work when someone's off sick, that's life. | /r/MensRights | 23/02/24 07:06 PM |
| 17 | Menopause warriors can sue you if they don't get what they "need".That's actually how it works pretty much everywhere except the USA. Most of the rest of the world is slightly nonplussed by the American concept of numbered sick days. "OK, I'll get over my shattered pelvis according to the company timetable." Where I am you'll be off work until you're well enough to return, unless it really goes on for months and months (over a year, often) in which case they'll start looking at whether you are likely to be incapable of working long term and need to be on some … | /r/MensRights | 23/02/24 03:58 PM |
| 2 | Menopause warriors can sue you if they don't get what they "need".I have had very much the same reaction. I'd appreciate your perspective on the following. I work in an industry which is largely freelance and therefore people don't really get paid maternity or paternity leave. It's also very, very difficult if people go off sick - obviously at some point if someone's too unwell to work so be it, you have to get someone else at short notice and get them to where the job is who happens to have the right skillset. This can be genuinely hard to do. I would say tha… | /r/MensRights | 23/02/24 03:51 PM |
| 5 | Menopause warriors can sue you if they don't get what they "need".I can't support that. Some women do have an awful time and it is not their fault. If a woman is really made unwell because of it, taking time off is entirely reasonable. It's also pretty rare for it to be that bad so it's not likely to involve huge numbers of people. If everyone else has to pick up a (really tiny) bit of slack, fine. I'd say the same about anyone with any other sort of issue, be it disability, long term illness, call it what you like. | /r/MensRights | 23/02/24 03:42 PM |
| 10 | Menopause warriors can sue you if they don't get what they "need".This reminds me of someone I met during an unfortunate sequence of events which actually led to my posting here. This particular woman complained of severe discomfort during menstruation, lots of bleeding, feeling terrible, and generally having a horrible time every month. I think everyone's aware that some women are very unlucky in this regard and if that's the case then so be it. It's very unfortunate and everyone is sympathetic, but if you're too unwell to work, take some time off sick. Not a… | /r/MensRights | 23/02/24 03:38 PM |
| -1 | Women sexually harassing men in media is permissable, but never the other way aroundTo be fair, Harley isn't exactly the most stable-minded individual, and you could argue that nobody's presenting her behaviour as good, exactly. | /r/MensRights | 23/02/24 07:17 AM |
| 1 | Feminism is inherently anti maleI wouldn't necessarily say that, exactly. Men and women face, on average, different challenges because they have, on average, somewhat different goals and desires. There is of course much crossover in that and none of this should be assumed to apply to absolutely everyone; so long as we aren't using the statistical norms to make assumptions about people it's not a problem. Personally I find it difficult to say who's doing worse at the moment. We've achieved something like equality, at least in f… | /r/MensRights | 22/02/24 11:50 AM |
| 2 | The Misandry Myth: An Inaccurate Stereotype About Feminists’ Attitudes Toward MenThe biggest question here is what they mean by feminism. It's regularly claimed that the term has a single, widely-agreed meaning, and I don't think that's true. I think there's some truth to the idea that the worst of it is a vocal minority - probably a very small minority. The problem is that other people, particularly women, will often publicly support that minority on points they would never say themselves and without really thinking about it very much, or perhaps treating it as a joke. That… | /r/MensRights | 22/02/24 01:22 AM |
| -1 | Feminism is inherently anti maleNo, it doesn't. The problem is, though, that if we start bashing anyone who thoughtlessly, self-describes as a feminist, we risk alienating otherwise sympathetic people. That in essence is what they do to us - treat all men as the worst possible example of men - and it does not help us to do the same to them. | /r/MensRights | 21/02/24 02:59 PM |
| -2 | Feminism is inherently anti maleI tend to agree and I think it's a shame you've been voted down. A huge number of people instinctively support ideas of equality, which is obviously fine. The problem is that some - many - of those ideas have been horribly corrupted and misused, which is not so fine, but wider society is hesitant to object to it for fear of being seen as some sort of bigot. It's a complex problem. Also, the alot is better than you at everything :) | /r/MensRights | 21/02/24 10:39 AM |
| 14 | Feminism is inherently anti maleDeep, heartfelt sigh. This is a semantic argument. I would certainly agree that regardless what anyone claims, in practice, feminism overwhelmingly manifests in ways which are intended to benefit women at the expense of men. I have personally met and conversed with lots of people (almost exclusively but not entirely women) who approved of that. Mostly they laugh it up as a sort of revenge, even if they're wealthy, successful, middle-aged women taking their petty frustrations out on a bunch of la… | /r/MensRights | 21/02/24 10:27 AM |
| 1 | Men and women's brains do work differently, scientists discover for first timeThat's not exactly a new discovery, is it? | /r/MensRights | 20/02/24 03:26 PM |
| 8 | Women have always hated me and I’ve grown to love itI’m bout to give up as I’m getting older and don’t care about sex anymore I realized it’s a amazing feeling cuz they r only able to use the female mystique against you if u want sex otherwise why would you want them around Well, you might want someone (anyone) around for companionship and mutual support. That said, a lot of the lower level griping we get on /r/mensrights is about relationship woes, which I have always viewed as offtopic absent any specific men's rights issues. I think a lot of p… | /r/MensRights | 19/02/24 12:20 PM |
| 5 | Academic career becoming increasingly unfeasible to menIt's not just in academia. My industry has several invitation-only societies for particularly accomplished professionals. Traditionally, it has been genuinely difficult to gain membership of these organisations, requiring the sort of work history that only comes after many years of high-level accomplishment. You'll already have figured out where this is going: these societies are mostly in technical fields and have historically had overwhelmingly male membership. That's perhaps something we shou… | /r/MensRights | 18/02/24 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Women make men feel guilty for existingI can't tell if you're kidding. | /r/MensRights | 18/02/24 10:55 PM |
| 0 | Women make men feel guilty for existingI'll vote that back up one. The point is not that what this woman did is right. It's not. It's demented. It's also fairly uncommon and, as /u/Geselshaft correctly says, not something we should take that seriously in the moment. The more seriously we take it, the more it encourages people to do it. The wider issue, that women feel free to do this sort of thing, is a problem. The fact that it happened one situation to one person is not really the problem. Nobody can make anyone else feel anything … | /r/MensRights | 18/02/24 02:57 PM |
| -11 | Women make men feel guilty for existingWhat you're describing there is one specific woman making one specific man - you - feel guilty for existing. No, it's not fair, but it's not a very good idea to make generalisations about it, not only because you're wrong in a lot of cases, but because those generalisations will be used whenever someone wants to make /r/mensrights look bad. Personally, in this situation, I'd have been trying to stop myself laughing. It certainly wouldn't have made me feel guilty. Nobody should be able to make yo… | /r/MensRights | 18/02/24 02:39 PM |
| 2 | We REALLY need a counterpart to askfeministI've said much the same myself. | /r/MensRights | 18/02/24 10:42 AM |
| 1 | We REALLY need a counterpart to askfeministBy UK standards I'm a vaguely left-leaning person, which means that by American standards I'm basically one of these guys, but - y'know - I'm here. Part of what's important about this stuff is that it's starting to piss people off across traditional political divides. What's often called modern social justice is not a left-of-centre political position anymore. It's become another excuse for another kind of bigotry; it's sometimes called the soft fascism of the new left. | /r/MensRights | 18/02/24 10:39 AM |
| 1 | We REALLY need a counterpart to askfeministWell, that's constructive. | /r/MensRights | 18/02/24 12:57 AM |
| 13 | Stay at home husbands just can't win.I've said it a dozen times on /r/mensrights but I make far less than my partner and if that means I'm living off her, so be it. If that's a problem, you're not with the right person to begin with. If we had kids (and we don't and at this point likely won't) I'd very certainly be the stay at home husband, not only because she makes most of the money doing a conspicuously awesome job, but because I can largely work from home and could likely continue generating at least some supplementary income. … | /r/MensRights | 17/02/24 06:02 PM |
| 2 | We REALLY need a counterpart to askfeministMy observation is that they ban people for being rude (which is reasonable) but they also ban people for presenting good arguments that they find politically inconvenient. My suspicion is that they ban people who cause them to feel emotions they don't like. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/24 04:49 PM |
| 6 | This is whataboutism the post on Quora. Jesus christ man the amount of closeted radfems in the comments is insane.Like a lot of gender politics - including may of the things we see posted here on /r/mensrights - this probably has a grain of truth underlying a lot of anger and frustration. Some of that anger and frustration is forgivable; some of it is less forgivable. The author seems to vacillate between a (reasonable) interpretation of isolated unpleasant experiences as just that, isolated, and a far less reasonable assumption that her experiences are common to all women. I don't think both of those thing… | /r/MensRights | 17/02/24 10:54 AM |
| 13 | This is whataboutism the post on Quora. Jesus christ man the amount of closeted radfems in the comments is insane.Women have commented on my body and groped me too, but I'm supposed to laugh it off. Happened just yesterday. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/24 09:10 AM |
| 21 | We REALLY need a counterpart to askfeministfrom the outside, MensRights looks closed-minded, and we appear afraid to be challenged by different opinions I don't disagree on what it can look like, but considering this subreddit is extremely tolerant of contrary views, up to and including comments from and discussion with the worst kind of anti-male feminist extremist, it's hard to see what more can be done. The opportunity for debate is there already. One of the biggest problems is that, as you say, the views of people here are often wild… | /r/MensRights | 16/02/24 08:55 AM |
| 4 | Get a TheRaPIsTThat's a hell of a thing to say about someone you've never met and know nothing about. I'll be the first to admit that this subreddit is too often full of people complaining about relationship issues which may be valid but really aren't on-topic. Even so, to make an unequivocal statement like that in the absence of any information is neither fair nor useful. | /r/MensRights | 16/02/24 08:49 AM |
| 1 | Do feminists really believe they are inferior to men and have less rights and that life is unfair for them and that world is against them?Men and women are, on average, not psychologically identical, in ways that occasionally benefit and disadvantage members of both groups. Either way, this creates a situation where they will inevitably achieve different life outcomes, again, on average. So long as this is not used prejudicially against individuals, by assuming those individuals' behaviour must and will match that average, it is not morally incorrect. However, it will always be possible to cherry-pick statistics about those life o… | /r/MensRights | 16/02/24 08:20 AM |
| 2 | Boys in poor urban areas suffering more than girls from violence, abuse and neglect, international research saysThe problem here is not so much that there are man- (and boy-) specific problems in the world. That much is has been well known for decades. Certainly, where I live, white boys are the least successful at school. The problem is that we have a large and powerful political lobby, in the modern social justice movement, which seeks to deny, justify, or otherwise find ways to overlook that reality, and to oppose any measure designed to alleviate these problems. We're gifted an example in this very th… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/24 12:42 AM |
| 5 | Why don't feminists care about male victims of homicide?The answer from a stereotypical academic feminist would be that it is impossible for men to face problems because any negative situation faced by any man under any circumstances is inherently a result of his own privilege. You will note that this is not even internally logically consistent, even if we accept the (ludicrous) premise that all men, as individuals and without exception, are unfairly privileged over all women, as individuals and without exception. Even under that ideology, and even i… | /r/MensRights | 14/02/24 11:44 AM |
| 2 | Dating apps are really getting out of hand with demands... what about us?Maybe it's an age thing, but I couldn't see myself actively wanting to pursue someone who just wants to use me for my resources for the slight hope that here might be some intimacy involved, or that I'm just "grateful" to have found someone. Well exactly. We get a lot of posts on this subreddit from people complaining about the dating experience. Some of it cites things which could, perhaps indirectly, reasonably be considered men's rights issues. Some don't; some are just whining about a bad ex… | /r/MensRights | 13/02/24 03:28 PM |
| 8 | Why is reddit so full of angry, insecure women that hate men?There's one main reason why Reddit, or any other social media outlet, attracts this sort of thing. It is designed to show you things it thinks will keep you on the site, whether that's something you love or something you hate. In the last decade or a few, politics in general has realised it's far easier to affect people with things they don't like than things they do. This is the result. I don't think it was specifically designed to do this; I think people were just trying to make the website su… | /r/MensRights | 13/02/24 02:45 PM |
| -7 | How are you supposed to meet a girl if approaching them is “cat calling and sexualizing them”. But men are supposed to make the first move?It's what some women have said when they have had a bad experience with a guy and want to demonise him, and by extension all men. The fact that they can often get away with this is not good, but it's also not very common and generally doesn't go much beyond online whining exactly like the whining we see here. Where it does go beyond that, it's a men's rights issue. When it doesn't, it's just dating. | /r/MensRights | 13/02/24 09:20 AM |
| 1 | How are you supposed to meet a girl if approaching them is “cat calling and sexualizing them”. But men are supposed to make the first move?Couldn't agree more. I'm here because I saw people being invited to job interviews they were never going to get because they were men, not because someone had a bad experience chatting someone up. This stuff does not help. | /r/MensRights | 13/02/24 09:19 AM |
| 1 | How are you supposed to meet a girl if approaching them is “cat calling and sexualizing them”. But men are supposed to make the first move?I tend to agree. This place ends up being a place for people to complain about unpleasant relationship experiences. So do the big feminist subs, to be honest, so I guess it's at least equal-opportunities bullshit. | /r/MensRights | 13/02/24 09:17 AM |
| 3 | UK: Met Police drops rape and sexual assault case against Tory MP Andrew Rosindell after two-year investigation finds he has 'no case to answer'It is a deeply awful situation. The problem is that I'm really not sure what anyone expects to happen, given that the vast majority of people have sex in private. | /r/MensRights | 12/02/24 07:11 PM |
| 3 | UK: Met Police drops rape and sexual assault case against Tory MP Andrew Rosindell after two-year investigation finds he has 'no case to answer'In order to meaningfully comment on this someone would need a lot more information than is contained in either the post or the report. As such it's one of those dangerous situations where nobody has any idea whether it's a false accusation or not, which is the stink of it. | /r/MensRights | 12/02/24 05:16 PM |
| 19 | Anyone not get a job because of being a manThe main reason I'm here is because I saw young men being denied job opportunities for being men, including being invited to job interviews to create the appearance of a fair hiring process, but then being told directly, to their faces, that they would not be selected for the role. This was absolutely and unequivocally illegal. I also saw unions running training courses from which white men were banned from being white men. This is just barely not illegal although it was against the union's own … | /r/MensRights | 12/02/24 09:47 AM |
| 1 | Are women allowed here too?Please try to overlook some of the less polite responses you're getting here. I get the impression that a lot of posters are here because they recently went through a bad breakup (and I get the same impression about some of the hardcore feminist subreddits). I think what these guys are trying to say, rather inarticulately, is that women enjoy some benefits in modern western society which are often overlooked. This is true to some extent (longer life, but earlier retirement, shorter prison senten… | /r/MensRights | 12/02/24 02:29 AM |
| 2 | Are women allowed here too?Absolutely, please do. Diversity of opinion is crucial. I've tried to bring some of it here myself. | /r/MensRights | 12/02/24 02:26 AM |
| 5 | Anyone feel like men are being viewed as one dimensional in relationships?I make less than half what my partner does. It's fine. If it's not fine, you're not right for each other anyway. | /r/MensRights | 11/02/24 07:35 PM |
| 1 | 71% of UK men have experienced some form of sexual victimization by a womanAs so often, it depends what you mean by "sexual victimisation." It's been claimed (source) that one in thirty women are raped in any calendar year which I suspect would require such a broad definition of rape that the term is almost meaningless. If sexual victimisation includes unwanted hugging from near-strangers, which I suspect most of modern feminism would gleefully claim when the putative victim is female, then I am sexually victimised several times a week, in which case the statistic is c… | /r/MensRights | 11/02/24 12:18 PM |
| 2 | what is this notion that the average man will kill a woman over a rejection?To answer the question directly, I don't know, what is this notion that the average man will kill a woman over a rejection? I'd say it's clearly untrue - it's not common - and even the staunchest hardline feminist would probably accept that. I recognise some of what you say as common in my experience, but that's just my experience (and yours) and I don't see why you think this belief is widely held. | /r/MensRights | 11/02/24 12:04 PM |
| 1 | In the workplace, incompetent women fail upwards while competent men are kept downI can't comment on the exact conditions at your workplace, but I think your topic heading is a bit unfair. It's clearly not the case that all women somehow fail upward, and much as I find the scenario you describe completely plausible, it's an n=1 anecdote which does not in itself justify the topic heading. I am sympathetic but I'm concerned that's the sort of headline which will be quoted out of context by people we don't much like and is perhaps better reconsidered. | /r/MensRights | 11/02/24 12:01 PM |
| 3 | Washington State Lawmakers dismiss concerns for well-being of boys, menCan anyone summarise what the arguments against this bill actually were? In the broad strokes it sounds bad but I would like to hear the objections of Ramos and Hunt and their political allies. The linked article states only that neither of them has seemed willing to answer questions about it. I mean, if there was some genuinely awful clause in this bill, then that might be a reason to oppose it, although if that were the case I would expect those involved to simply say so. Until I hear differen… | /r/MensRights | 11/02/24 11:58 AM |
| 7 | UK: Fathers who fall behind on child maintenance payments could lose their home and driving licence as ministers demand parents 'take responsibility'The problem isn't really that people should have to pay for their kids. They should. The problem is that the reporting of this - from firmly right-leaning publications, no less - is made almost entirely about fathers. It may legitimately be almost entirely about fathers, which opens up another can of worms as to why that is, but it doesn't help anyone to use this as another political tool to bash men. | /r/MensRights | 11/02/24 11:55 AM |
| 3 | Americans, mostly women, are becoming more liberal: GallupWell, quite. I think it's even more complicated than that, though, because someone with left-of-centre political views might be someone who's interested in - say - economic policy, market regulation and workers' rights. Those are things most people understand are required to at least some degree and we can at least have a sensible conversation about what we're going to do. Someone else might self-describe as holding views on the political left and yet support at least some degree of special trea… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/24 06:49 PM |
| 6 | Women are upset that Aussie men have stopped approaching themThey can and they do, they're just taking a risk, though not much of a risk. In general it's incredibly difficult to have police officers held accountable for almost anything they do, under any circumstances, and I suspect that protection would probably apply here just as well. The wider issue is that men are increasingly afraid of women in the same way and for much the same reasons women are afraid of men. The difference is that women's fear of men meets with nothing but support and assistance … | /r/MensRights | 10/02/24 02:15 PM |
| 5 | Americans, mostly women, are becoming more liberal: GallupWhat I take from it is that bread lines are better than starving, which is pretty inarguably true. To make that into some sort of boogeyman statement you have to assume that Sanders thinks food shortages are a good thing overall, which is pretty obviously untrue. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/24 11:37 AM |
| -4 | Americans, mostly women, are becoming more liberal: GallupBit more context would help, I think. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/24 11:23 AM |
| 2 | Americans, mostly women, are becoming more liberal: GallupJeez. Cite that? Put it this way: I'm reasonably sure I've heard Obama's healthcare reforms decried as "communism," whereas in fact they require people to deal with a commercial entity and would never fly in Europe because they'd be seen as hopelessly right wing. American politics does come off as a bit demented, sometimes. I think all foreign political systems seem a bit that way to people from outside the country, but I guess my point is really that Americans have absolutely nothing to gear fr… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/24 11:10 AM |
| 30 | Women are upset that Aussie men have stopped approaching themThis is one reason I've avoided doing a first aid qualification, which is common in my industry. It's often been proudly stated that nobody has been successfully prosecuted for sexual assault as a consequence of trying to administer first aid, though it's hard to prove a negative, and there have certainly been people taken to court, as with this guy who was charged with sexual assault during a training session. Yes, he was cleared, but he was charged, and I have no intention of putting myself in… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/24 10:23 AM |
| 25 | Americans, mostly women, are becoming more liberal: GallupIt depends what "liberal" means. I think a lot of Americans would do well to bear in mind that, in the rest of the world, it doesn't generally mean the same thing as it does in, say, Nebraska. Still, if "liberal" means a permissive attitude to living any way you like so long as it doesn't affect anyone else, equality of opportunity, affordable access to healthcare, and so on - fine. If "liberal" means the sort of divisive identity politics which is in fact hideously illiberal - not so fine. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/24 09:23 AM |
| 2 | Americans, mostly women, are becoming more liberal: GallupThis is the problem with this sort of discussion. It ends up being dominated by Americans whose idea of "the left" is Bernie Sanders, who would be viewed as something of a moderate in much of the rest of the developed world. The result is that reasonable ideas which lean even faintly in the direction of traditional socialism are decried as adjacent to Marx and Lenin and much as I like to spend time in the USA, I don't think it's helping them. It doesn't help when a lot of modern social justice i… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/24 09:19 AM |
| 2 | UK: Woman who acted out depraved schoolgirl fantasies with her boyfriend faces jail after pouring bleach over his face before trying to stab him in the penis for rejecting her for sexTend to agree. It's worth bringing up when we find out what the sentence is, particularly if it's unduly lenient, as would not be any great surprise. Still, until that time, it really is just rage bait. | /r/MensRights | 09/02/24 04:20 PM |
| 1 | A classmate said she thought I was gay because I didn't leer at her. It's not the first time a woman has complained for not being stared at.Nothing anyone here needs to be associated with, is the point. It's been deleted because it doesn't and shouldn't represent the views of most of us and that's where it should stay. | /r/MensRights | 09/02/24 12:26 AM |
| 1 | A classmate said she thought I was gay because I didn't leer at her. It's not the first time a woman has complained for not being stared at.To a degree, yes, but what was said here does not help us regardless. | /r/MensRights | 09/02/24 12:26 AM |
| 7 | Let's discuss the "Feminist" concept of the so called "objectification theory".It's one of a group of terms ("lived experience," "my truth," "made to feel," "coming from a place of") which are intended to lend weight to something very vague and poorly-defined. It's sophistry. Mostly it's a more flowery way to say "I didn't like the way that guy looked at me." Like a lot of academic language, there are completely reasonable interpretations of objectification theory which are mostly useful in a degree-level discussion of sociology. Many of these terms are widely misused by p… | /r/MensRights | 08/02/24 08:00 PM |
| 5 | A classmate said she thought I was gay because I didn't leer at her. It's not the first time a woman has complained for not being stared at....and that's the sort of comment that will be quoted next time someone wants to demonise and trivialise the concept of men needing a rights movement. Bad idea. Really, really bad idea. Yes, they do it to us, endlessly and publicly and without anyone saying a word. I know. It's terrible. But we need to be better than that. | /r/MensRights | 08/02/24 07:49 PM |
| -1 | BDE and SDEthe terms BDE ( Big Dick Energy) and SDE ( Small Dick Energy) are confidently and regularly used by women to judge men Take heart; the word "cunt" is used almost universally as an insult, by anyone, to refer to anyone. Which, I guess, is a vaguely sexist reality in itself. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 06:16 PM |
| 6 | There Is No War On Men And Feminism Is “Good” For BoysA lot of what the article says when it compares groups of people is probably true; there probably are studies that show it to be correct. What's important is how narrowly specific Bates is being when she writes about those statistics. She compares white boys specifically to black Caribbean boys in the UK. The black population of the UK divides very roughly into two groups: people who arrived in the UK from the Caribbean in the mid-to-late twentieth century (see Windrush generation), and their de… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 06:11 PM |
| 2 | Is being a male a disadvantage in the workplace for both hirings and promotions?It depends where you work. Smaller companies are less likely to do this to people. Big companies which are sufficiently profitable and high profile to care about the politics, and to be able to afford to have people in human resources to engage with the politics, are more likely to be a problem. It's a searing irony, if you think about it; I've never once come across anyone trying to use gender (or race, or disability status, etc) as a factor in a hiring decision who did not claim to be on the s… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 05:48 PM |
| 7 | Feminism demands you sacrifice your pride on the altar of their skewed historical perspectiveStrictly speaking /u/antlindzfam is right; /u/Extension-Moose-4662's statement is not an accurate description of CRT as it was originally described. Critical race theory (or critical gender theory, or critical paving slab theory, or any other critical theory) is a pretty well defined bit of what I'd call experimental thinking in how human power structures work. Like a lot of sociology, it is not nearly so testable a theory as the theories of the harder sciences, things like chemistry, biology or… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 05:01 PM |
| 2 | Feminism demands you sacrifice your pride on the altar of their skewed historical perspectiveWhy would anyone need to be in a more favorable position because of something that's in the past which is totally unrelatable to them or to the present time. I guess in extremis (and I mean, in extremis) then the things that happened to one's ancestors might have an effect on a person. It's not completely ridiculous to point out that the kids of rich people have a head start in life. Where it becomes ludicrous is to assume that (for instance) all non-white people are the offspring of poor people… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 04:51 PM |
| 5 | Feminism demands you sacrifice your pride on the altar of their skewed historical perspectiveI thought the new world had never burned anyone at the stake - I thought that was an old European thing. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 03:22 PM |
| 1 | The forgotten voice of sexual violenceI was going to say exactly the same thing (in fact, I'll probably go and post it as a top comment). Lived experience are anecdotal evidence. That may be awful for an individual but it's not something we should be using to run society. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 12:39 PM |
| 3 | BBC Newsnight: "Every day women will face misogyny and microaggressions", says Caroline Nokes, Chair of the Women and Equalities Committee in the UK ParliamentI dunno, if it caved to their every whim, we'd have imprisonment on accusation for sexual assault. Just most of their whims. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 12:34 PM |
| 1 | Feminist NSW education minister pushes for Newington College boys school to go Co-ed, despite parents objectingAll kinds of things are natural. Eating food raw is natural, but nobody's campaigning against baked potatoes. I challenge you to describe in any terms other than an appeal to traditionalism why socially separating men and women is actually helpful. I think there are a few isolated cases where it's inevitable, but not many. In short, we live in a world where a lot of people find a lot of ways to divide and separate humanity into groups. If we're going to claim to be in the side of good and right … | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 11:31 AM |
| 1 | More male hating drivel by the Guardian.A common feature among them was not giving a toss what other women thought. The article's author is still in the crab bucket those high performance women escaped. Couldn't have put it better myself. There is a huge amount of commonality between women who obsess about the politics and women who do not do very well. I think the reasons behind this are blindingly obvious: nobody likes a prickly activist. | /r/MensRights | 06/02/24 10:26 PM |
| -1 | Feminist NSW education minister pushes for Newington College boys school to go Co-ed, despite parents objectingI don't think this is necessarily a question of somehow disadvantaging women. I don't think it's particularly helpful for either sex to be segregated. | /r/MensRights | 06/02/24 10:17 PM |
| -3 | "We need to adress men's issues, otherwise they will vote for Donald Trump!"I think there's some truth to the basic statement underlying this. I am not a conservative, especially not an American-style conservative, and compared to the rest of the developed world, American politics is skewed significantly to the right in a way I don't think helps anyone very much. Modern politics often gives us a choice between bad and worse so my disdain for Trump is not an endorsement of anyone else, but still, I'm not going to celebrate a conservative win in the USA. Considering Trump… | /r/MensRights | 06/02/24 06:46 AM |
| -17 | Feminist NSW education minister pushes for Newington College boys school to go Co-ed, despite parents objectingI don't know about the statistics, but having attended both co ed and segregated places my subjective impression was that the integrated approach produced more well rounded people. The boys school was noticeably more full of slightly immature kids, even at the age of seventeen or so. It wouldn't be surprised if there were something to what /u/BeeInevitable8541 says. | /r/MensRights | 06/02/24 06:37 AM |
| 16 | Feminist NSW education minister pushes for Newington College boys school to go Co-ed, despite parents objectingSimilar things pertain in the UK. I attended several schools but the last and best one had been boys only until not that long before I was there. Having mostly attended co-educational places I think that the general attitude is better and I'm not a huge fan of that kind of segregation on general principle. The place I went is a selective intake school. It is not a fee paying place but achieved exam results comparable to places that are, which naturally makes it extremely desirable, hence the int… | /r/MensRights | 06/02/24 06:31 AM |
| 2 | More male hating drivel by the Guardian.Christ, that really is a pretty unpleasant read. If you really wanted to, you could probably generate some sort of very feeble and incomplete justification for a lot of what's said, but it would still involve a huge number of generalisations that nobody would or should tolerate if it had been a piece aimed at criticising the behaviour of women. One thing the author does repeatedly is to assume that all men are helpless prisoners of their own egos, and can't handle being with successful women. My… | /r/MensRights | 06/02/24 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Help me understand, what are the law-related issues that men face?The thing is with a lot of that you can, if you want to get political, claim it's not about gender per se, which is sort of the point I was making. Strictly speaking, for instance, making legal aid contingent on domestic abuse allegations would not be a gendered law, it just becomes one when you consider that those allegations tend to go very much in one direction only. Or, at least, that's what the counterargument might be. I should say, I've never even heard of that being a rule, so it's just … | /r/MensRights | 05/02/24 09:31 AM |
| 3 | Rape and SA are hated more during to most victims being womenMaybe, but I'm not sure it's very healthy or productive for us to be virtually sitting here discussing how bad something awful is considered. I'm fairly convinced it's pretty awful whatever the reason. | /r/MensRights | 04/02/24 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Not wanting to eat other person's vagina is some how an offense now?Why is this complicated? If you're not getting what you want out of a relationship, break it off - politely - and find someone else (in that order). That goes for oral sex, taste in music or anything else. Maybe sit down and have a chat about it, perhaps, because that's what adults do, but if it's really not fixable, then perhaps it wasn't meant to be, and that's normal and fine. It happens. Isn't this normal relationship stuff? | /r/MensRights | 04/02/24 02:33 PM |
| 5 | Further basic evidence for the dark-ego-vehicle principle: Higher pathological narcissism is associated with greater involvement in feminist activismThis is blindingly obvious to anyone who's encountered this stuff in person. A lot of the discussion on this subreddit arises from internet links and pieces of video. Find yourself in the room with the sort of unpleasant feminist extremists we often discuss here, and you'll probably know from the first introduction that you're talking to someone who is abrupt, disagreeable, frowning and engages in introductory courtesies only out of sheer social pressure. The cliché of the scowling activist is w… | /r/MensRights | 04/02/24 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Going Against the Current as A WomanHonestly you could say much the same thing as a reasonably moderate man these days. I'm a middle-class, middle-aged guy who works in a stereotypically progressive industry. I don't like the normal left-to-right description of politics as I think it's a massive oversimplification, but by european standards I'm mildly left of centre, which means by US standards I'm practically a socialist. I've always taken the position that everyone's entitled to absolute equality of opportunity until they show o… | /r/MensRights | 04/02/24 01:37 PM |
| 0 | Further basic evidence for the dark-ego-vehicle principle: Higher pathological narcissism is associated with greater involvement in feminist activismWhat shocks me is that they expect gender to moderate that relationship. What, they're going into studies expecting certain results? | /r/MensRights | 04/02/24 01:29 PM |
| 2 | Man accused of rapeIs the punishment for that more or less severe than the punishment for rape? | /r/MensRights | 04/02/24 01:26 PM |
| 18 | Man accused of rapeHonestly, "staggeringly" could mean it happens at all. The woman who accused Mark Pearson is still strolling around free as a bird. | /r/MensRights | 04/02/24 01:25 PM |
| 31 | Man accused of rapeIt could be, but there's nothing here that is particularly unusual. If someone's accused of a crime they're pretty much going to get arrested and all their stuff seized and that happens for crimes way less controversial than rape. Assuming we've been told the whole truth here (which we may not) I would suspect, and I'm no professional, that it's unlikely this guy will be convicted - but it could still ruin his life. | /r/MensRights | 04/02/24 01:24 PM |
| 5 | Men are more interested in women's sports than women are: 31% of men and 22% of women reported watching or attending women's sports the previous month globallySurely that's because men are, on average, just more interested in sports per se than women are. I appreciate that these population-level statistics are only allowed to exist when it benefits certain political viewpoints, but none of this is a big surprise. | /r/MensRights | 04/02/24 02:29 AM |
| 6 | Is there any country where men actually "have it better"?I doubt it. There are places where very traditional attitudes to gender persist, but I'm not going to celebrate that, obviously. Nobody wants to live in, say, Afghanistan and nor does any sane human being who's experienced better think that's a reasonable way to run a country. In places where things are fairer, well, things are fairer, and there's less differentiation between genders. | /r/MensRights | 03/02/24 08:29 PM |
| 2 | Help me understand, what are the law-related issues that men face?There's not that much left in actual written law that separates people by sex, in either direction, at least where I'm from (where abortion is reasonably accessible). The exceptions are either unavoidable (medical care naturally differs where it must) or the obvious stuff (military draft, etc) which needs to be looked at. Many people have given great examples of adjacent issues which affect a lot of men but I'll give two concrete ones. The big issues are generally in the way those laws are imple… | /r/MensRights | 03/02/24 01:32 AM |
| 11 | The loss of men's spaces, and who it hurts most."My truth..." "Was made to feel..." "Speaking as a..." "Comes from a place of..." I mean, look, I don't want to come off some sort of political spawn of Shapiro, here. I do care how people feel, but I will withdraw that care, as frankly will anyone, if I don't think that person's feelings are justified by their experiences. Yes, that is a very subjective thing, but a lot of people are speaking their truth about being made to feel that they came from a place of oppression when that place of oppre… | /r/MensRights | 03/02/24 01:01 AM |
| 19 | The loss of men's spaces, and who it hurts most.Personally I'd avoid the use of "lived experience." Lived experience is just another term for anecdotal evidence. It is a way of making what someone happens to think sound more persuasive, regardless of why that person holds that view. All it means is "I think this because this is what happened to me," which may be true, but it may not be representative, for all kinds of reasons. If your lived experience experts are really experts, then I would expect that expertise to come from work, research, … | /r/MensRights | 02/02/24 04:00 PM |
| 2 | TV shows makes a comedy out of a 29 year old woman sleeping with a 17 year old boy. She gets pregnant and he is the bad guy!Well, they could, and it might actually have a purpose, if you think about it. | /r/MensRights | 01/02/24 08:42 PM |
| 10 | TV shows makes a comedy out of a 29 year old woman sleeping with a 17 year old boy. She gets pregnant and he is the bad guy!That stuff varies internationally, as well. I buy my Chinese and Japanese cooking supplies from a place with a sign that reads "Oriental Supermarket." The owner, whose family is from Hong Kong, chose the sign. It's fine. | /r/MensRights | 01/02/24 07:19 PM |
| 4 | Remember when female students got more time on the STEM tests because that math was too misogynistic of a subject?Well, that's no great surprise, is it. Evidence of women doing well is evidence the special favours are working and evidence of women doing poorly is evidence more special favours are needed, so in either case, special favours are good. It's hardly a new argument. | /r/MensRights | 01/02/24 02:55 PM |
| 2 | honestly for those who defend the mutilation of boys because "religious freedom" should be asked if people should be able to cut on girls genitals(FGM) in the name of "religious freedom"I don't think it is, I think it's arguably more damaging. Still, as I say, it's not an argument I'm that inclined to get into. Both are ritual child abuse with a deeply unpleasant sexualised motivation. | /r/MensRights | 01/02/24 02:52 PM |
| 3 | honestly for those who defend the mutilation of boys because "religious freedom" should be asked if people should be able to cut on girls genitals(FGM) in the name of "religious freedom"Regardless of any of the gender issues at play here, we do not provide unlimited freedom to everyone on the basis of religion to begin with. For instance, people are required to educate their kids and that education is required to include a reasonable (fsvo reasonable) curriculum, which is to say, in many western countries you can't send your boy to an Islamic madrassa which teaches only aspects of religion, because that wouldn't be a sufficiently rounded experience to count as "education." On t… | /r/MensRights | 01/02/24 09:42 AM |
| 23 | Remember when female students got more time on the STEM tests because that math was too misogynistic of a subject?Hang on a second, I think you may have grabbed hold of the wrong end of the stick, here. The way I read that, they didn't give solely the female students more time, they gave everyone more time. Yes, they justified the decision by suggesting it helped women more than men, which is odd in itself, and I think it's a little odd to imply that women are somehow no good under pressure, which is the conclusion many people might very reasonably draw from this. There's also the issue of women and girls g… | /r/MensRights | 01/02/24 09:29 AM |
| -1 | In heterosexual relationships most women opt for preferential treatment over equal ones. And when they say they are feminist, it’s only for this reason.I couldn't agree more. One of the reasons I even post here is that the anti-man attitude that's being pushed by the extremes of social justice will encourage more people toward Tate or Trump, and that's a disaster. Extremist feminism appears to have no idea of the precipice it's pushing us toward. | /r/MensRights | 31/01/24 11:26 AM |
| 0 | No matter how much women’s sports is pushed on society. It will never be as popular as men’s.Whether or not I agree with you, I do question whether this is much to do with men's rights. | /r/MensRights | 31/01/24 09:48 AM |
| 7 | Scheme to jail Britons overseas ‘should only apply to men’ because 'Data shows that women prisoners are predominantly victims of domestic and sexual violence', says Labour MP Jess PhillipsYes, it might be that the female prison population represents victims of domestic violence. On the other hand, that, along with the tiny number of women in prison in general, might just indicate that we're simply bad at detecting crimes committed by women. I'm not saying that's true, but it's an equally plausible interpretation of the same data. I don't know which is more accurate, and neither does Jess Phillips. My suspicion - and this is a speculation - is that Phillips' choice of that particu… | /r/MensRights | 30/01/24 05:36 PM |
| 2 | Feminist hypocrisy about Ryan GoslingI think the point here is that five women were nominated in the category of best actress exactly as usual. It's not like any gender is being particularly snubbed, here. There is no sexism involved. It's just that a bunch of people wanted Barbie to win all the awards for political reasons, which is... er... not how it works. I tend to agree that a bunch of Hollywood politics is pretty trivial in the grand scheme of things, but it is a perfectly valid example of some pretty unpleasant politics. Th… | /r/MensRights | 30/01/24 11:55 AM |
| 1 | Feminist hypocrisy about Ryan GoslingI don't really get what's going on here. There are five nominees for Best Actress, just as there always are. Listening to the reaction to this you'd think that they'd abolished the category and banned women from competition altogether. With that in mind, I suspect Annette Bening, Lily Gladstone, Sandra Huller, Carey Mulligan and Emma Stone would love to hear why their nominations were somehow improper. The position here appears to be that Barbie is a feminist movie, which is a questionable propo… | /r/MensRights | 30/01/24 11:44 AM |
| 2 | The 6 feet thing is very weirdMuch as I agree I wonder if this is fairly specifically a USA thing. I'm not there and at 6'3" I tower over most women, but I've never felt like it was a particular advantage. | /r/MensRights | 30/01/24 10:42 AM |
| 28 | Do we really "slut shame" women more than men?I see a lot of excuses being made for women who engage in stereotypically negative aspects of masculine behaviour, things like narcissism, promiscuity and violence, on the basis that it somehow represents a levelling-up of people in a previously-unbalanced situation. Or, to put it another way, it's OK when they do it. | /r/MensRights | 29/01/24 06:48 PM |
| 19 | Hard pill for women to swallowIt depends what she means as well as what he means. Her opening statement really only makes sense if we're talking about single women who find it harder to attract men as they age. I don't think his statement is really about the happily-married mothers who are content with things. They've got no reason to complain about things becoming harder with age because they're not looking for the things that do become harder. As such I think it's explicitly clear this conversation is about ageing single w… | /r/MensRights | 29/01/24 06:00 PM |
| 1 | “I think most men struggle when they have to do a variety of tasks,” she says laughing. “I think us ladies have more faces, we can adapt to different situations much better."Like so much of this unpleasant stuff, which would be decried as prejudice if said by men about women, there is a grain of truth behind it. Humans can't really multitask; our brains are single-core processors (we only have one prefrontal cortex). There's science out there which suggests women are better at task switching, or at least more willing to do it. This is perhaps one reason that women often make (for instance) pretty good fighter pilots, because that task often involves doing several th… | /r/MensRights | 29/01/24 10:52 AM |
| 3 | Therapy most of the time doesn't work for men, and here's why.I don't know enough about the subject to talk with any authority about the training, but what you're suggesting would be a reasonable explanation for the results we see. What's certainly true is that psychology is a real black spot of double standards, involving a preponderance of women with little willingness, and practically no concrete action, aimed at getting more men involved. Even over on the left wing male sub, men involved in the field have said things like: I was going to go to grad sch… | /r/MensRights | 29/01/24 10:39 AM |
| 2 | New Reeves article: We must pay more attention to young menI've been saying it, here and in other places, for years. I don't want to see (for instance) a Trump presidency. But if extremist social justice (which has little to do with justice) wants to see a Trump presidency, it's doing everything it can to make one happen by pushing people away from a moderate point of view. There is a rather smug idea that using claims of social justice as a platform for political revenge by proxy is something that people can get away with doing indefinitely, that it's … | /r/MensRights | 28/01/24 12:48 PM |
| 1 | I’m tired of seeing men dating younger women as predatoryI guess I'm fine. She's a few months older than me. | /r/MensRights | 28/01/24 12:41 PM |
| 1 | The global GENDER DIVIDE is widening. Young men across the world are becoming more conservative while younger women are becoming more liberalWell, okay, fine, but I think this stuff is fairly universal. If a certain political movement pisses people off, they're going to vote for the other guys, and from what I've seen that is absolutely happening in the USA. And for what it's worth, I don't want to see a Trump presidency, which will affect the whole free world to a degree. Downvote me for that if you like, but it's a classic case of the enemy of my enemy, and that is often not very smart thinking. | /r/MensRights | 28/01/24 12:40 PM |
| 7 | How politically united is the Men's Rights Movement?Couldn't agree more. I see stuff posted here that I disagree with, and which I have argued with. That's mostly on the basis that I'm a fairly moderate slightly-left-of-centre individual from Europe, whereas a lot of the people here are Americans, which inevitably shifts the political perspective sharply to the right. That doesn't make the underlying issues invalid. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/24 10:56 AM |
| 4 | The global GENDER DIVIDE is widening. Young men across the world are becoming more conservative while younger women are becoming more liberalHere's the answer for leftists. If you're not sitting down, take a seat because this is going to be a doozy. Here we go: Just stop being pieces of shit. Stop spitting on men, stop rejecting literally any suggestion that men have disadvantages to women, stop focusing exclusively on women's issues in every single solitary way, stop spewing vitriol on social networks, and actually make the slightest modicum of effort to sound like you give a shit. If someone like Andrew Tate, a mouth-breathing fuck… | /r/MensRights | 27/01/24 10:35 AM |
| 7 | The global GENDER DIVIDE is widening. Young men across the world are becoming more conservative while younger women are becoming more liberalAnd this is the inevitable outcome. I've been warning of it for literally decades, since I was a kid. I am not a conservative, not in the European sense and certainly not in the American sense, and I do not celebrate an increasing interest in conservative politics. As such I also do not celebrate the things which have caused this to be the case: prejudice, in many cases outright and with official support, against men in general, though I suspect a lot of this also goes for race in places where r… | /r/MensRights | 27/01/24 10:28 AM |
| 1 | Women would rather blame the patriarchy than accept that people liked Ken more than BarbieThe fact that she conflates it with appearance issues suggests to me that this largely comes from her personal insecurities. Personally, I'm entirely aware I'm not the most tempting catch from a sheer physical attractiveness point of view and I've long since made my peace with that, so I would never under any circumstances make it about whether or not I deserved some sort of handout. That's just pathetically sad and needy, but it's also incredibly self-centred. America Ferrara is clearly the sta… | /r/MensRights | 27/01/24 10:16 AM |
| 2 | Women are celebrating the deaths of American men in ColombiaOh, no. The link is a comment in itself... | /r/MensRights | 26/01/24 01:47 AM |
| 2 | Women are celebrating the deaths of American men in ColombiaYou weren't joking, were you. I believe watching the first thirty seconds of that may actually have made me measurably less heterosexual. | /r/MensRights | 26/01/24 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Feminists have LIED to You about Male Sexual AssaultI think that's kind of the point, though. If two people get loaded and decide to jump into bed together, that might be personally and socially awkward, but absent any other considerations I'd hesitate to consider that anyone is being forced to do anything in that situation. I'd say that goes both ways. I'd stand on the idea that people actually being forced, at metaphorical gunpoint, to do something they really don't want to do in the moment is fairly rare regardless of the gender of the people … | /r/MensRights | 26/01/24 01:36 AM |
| 3 | Women are celebrating the deaths of American men in Colombia...who? (Seriously. I'm not from the USA.) | /r/MensRights | 25/01/24 07:55 PM |
| 4 | Feminists have LIED to You about Male Sexual AssaultI would speculate that the issue is not really that many men are being "made to penetrate." I suspect that is, while quite possible, probably fairly rare, much as women being dragged into the bushes and raped by complete strangers is fairly rare, representing a small number of total reported incidents. The only way you get to statistics such as one in five women being raped is to define rape to include, for instance, sex while drunk. As such, a fairly decent proportion of all sex had in the worl… | /r/MensRights | 25/01/24 07:21 PM |
| 1 | Masculinity carries a negative connotation thanks to terms like “toxic masculinity”The popularity of unpleasant individuals such as Trump and Tate is a consequence I've been warning of for years. The same thing applies to - for instance - people trying to police people of certain races having certain hairstyles. Criticising harmless, innocent, well-meaning people doesn't help anyone of any race or gender. What it does do is to alienate moderates - people who find the hard core of conservatism absolutely revolting, and who would otherwise instinctively support any initiative ai… | /r/MensRights | 25/01/24 05:03 PM |
| 2 | Women are celebrating the deaths of American men in ColombiaWho was that? It'd be a great example if we knew the details. | /r/MensRights | 25/01/24 04:41 PM |
| 5 | "Margot and Greta making a billion dollar movie but Ryan getting nominated is exactly the point the Barbie movie was trying to make"DigitalSpy reckoned AMPAS was only about a third female in 2023. At the same time, about 75% of authors are female. There are on-average differences between men and women which drive them to interests in different things and so long as that isn't used to disadvantage anyone that is not a controversial reality. | /r/MensRights | 24/01/24 12:43 PM |
| 1 | This some bullshit. Manslaughter sentencing = 100 hours if you’re femaleNo great surprise. It's official government policy in the UK to imprison fewer women, because... er... women are wonderful. But the reason I say this is that there is nuance here, which is often overlooked, and which the sentencing in this case seems to ignore. The nuance is that short term prison sentences don't help much and the majority of prison sentences served by women are short. There's another layer of complexity beneath that in which we could consider why women end up serving short sent… | /r/MensRights | 24/01/24 12:35 PM |
| 4 | Woman spared jail after groping a man's genitals as a "joke"...imagine if the genders were reversedI take a slightly different position to a lot of people here. I don't think this is unreasonable. Grabbing someone in an awkward place is impolite. It's not something that should see someone in jail. This sort of level of fine (and of course the record) is not unreasonable. The problem is that if a man did this to a woman it would not be the same result. That's the problem. | /r/MensRights | 24/01/24 10:36 AM |
| 2 | Man’s gym act exposes ‘insane’ problemI'll ask you again. Seriously. What are they going to do? The sad reality is that you don't have a right to never feel discomfort, but sometimes putting up with that discomfort is actually useful. If you want to make it a gender thing, it's both practically and statistically more likely that they'll actually do something to me than you. You might get looked at. I might get smashed in the face. If this is the oppression Olympics, I'm claiming gold. | /r/MensRights | 24/01/24 02:38 AM |
| 4 | Feminism Was Never About Equality : Dr Janice Fiamengo / The Fiamengo File 2.0All I'll say on this is that every self-describing feminist I've ever heard talk about this stuff has claimed that feminism is about equality. At the same time, I have never once seen any self-describing feminist take any action based on her beliefs which was not expressly and solely intended to benefit women at the expense of men. It's an approach invariably defended by claiming that men should engage in their own activism, although when we do that - as we're doing right now - we find that mode… | /r/MensRights | 23/01/24 09:09 PM |
| 2 | Man’s gym act exposes ‘insane’ problemI guess I'd have had to be there, but honestly, if this comes down to people looking at you, I'd be inclined to look right back. I mean, seriously: what're they going to do? I wouldn't feel like backing down, I don't think. | /r/MensRights | 23/01/24 08:47 PM |
| 2 | Man’s gym act exposes ‘insane’ problemDefine harassment? People actually approached you and said inappropriate things? | /r/MensRights | 21/01/24 09:24 AM |
| 1 | Man’s gym act exposes ‘insane’ problemI tend to agree. I think the objection people have is the spinning of this into a political issue when there's precisely zero reason to see it that way. | /r/MensRights | 21/01/24 09:21 AM |
| 3 | Man’s gym act exposes ‘insane’ problemThe woman interviewed there says "As someone who is prone to be fairly wary of the opposite sex..." How would it be if someone said "As someone who is prone to be fairly wary of black people..."? I think these people are the stars of their own private movies and a lot of what they see as staring is all in their heads, but I can only speculate. I've never once seen it happen and I ride the subways in a major city all the time. | /r/MensRights | 21/01/24 09:19 AM |
| 1 | 100% Honestly, if I’m wrong I’ll apologize.Er... Cook your own dinner, then? But in general, my experience is that some people like to take a martyred air and describe themselves as the victim in ways that are simply counter to reality, and yes, it's my impression (though it is just an impression) that women do this more than men. If she's doing that a lot, I wouldn't hang around and absorb it. | /r/MensRights | 21/01/24 08:48 AM |
| 5 | Do feminists fixate on what you can and can't say while avoiding the actual point of of an argument to limit and silence men?Lots of political movements do that. It's always easier to win an argument by trying to ban the counterargument than by showing it's wrong. I think there's some truth to the idea that movements claiming to work for social justice (but which in reality sometimes represent nothing more than another sort of prejudice) do this a lot but that's just my impression. I've often thought that school should involve a mandatory class called "logic and critical thinking," which would insulate at least some p… | /r/MensRights | 21/01/24 08:44 AM |
| 19 | Sharon Stone says her biggest fear for her teenage sons in today's society is online pornography as she claims men are 'rabid' after the Me Too movementSometimes people say things that are so absolutely abstruse and incomprehensible it's hard to know how to object. Take this: I think men were so intimidated by #MeToo that to punish us they decided to cancel Roe v. Wade What? The vast majority of men I know would be very, very happy to know that their partners would not be forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term. Medical necessities aside, most of us are just as concerned about becoming unwilling fathers as most women are about becoming un… | /r/MensRights | 19/01/24 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Man who walked by a "well known actress" charged with sexual assault. It wasn't until 6 months in that his defense team was allowed to see the CCTV that exonerated him, showing his hands full and their passing being less than half a second.I'm not sure what the situation is in the USA. I think in the UK you'd need a named accuser. I'm not entirely sure. | /r/MensRights | 19/01/24 08:20 PM |
| 4 | Man who walked by a "well known actress" charged with sexual assault. It wasn't until 6 months in that his defense team was allowed to see the CCTV that exonerated him, showing his hands full and their passing being less than half a second.As far as I know, they didn't. That's sort of the issue. The video showed nothing of any import and everyone involved knew that. They just sort of... went ahead anyway. Beyond the awfulness of it, the whole thing is just weird. It's not clear why any of it happened and it seems nobody will ever find out. Very possibly people from within the justice system were involved in setting the whole thing up for political reasons. If that's true, then they have committed serious criminal offences and they… | /r/MensRights | 19/01/24 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Man who walked by a "well known actress" charged with sexual assault. It wasn't until 6 months in that his defense team was allowed to see the CCTV that exonerated him, showing his hands full and their passing being less than half a second.It depends what mechanism they're using. I guess we have to be super, ultra-clear that we all agree rape is a hideous and appalling crime and the report-to-conviction rate is objectively much lower than other types of crime. My concern is that when people talk up the idea that false accusations are rare, that's in the context of that low conviction rate which, if we take the courts as arbiters of absolute truth, would actually suggest a fairly high false accusation rate. That's not my position b… | /r/MensRights | 19/01/24 05:57 PM |
| 10 | Man who walked by a "well known actress" charged with sexual assault. It wasn't until 6 months in that his defense team was allowed to see the CCTV that exonerated him, showing his hands full and their passing being less than half a second.Hang on; he'd have known who she was in court, presumably? Just not allowed to talk about it outside court. Either way, can't sue if you're not allowed to make the name of the person you're suing public. | /r/MensRights | 19/01/24 12:35 PM |
| 2 | Man who walked by a "well known actress" charged with sexual assault. It wasn't until 6 months in that his defense team was allowed to see the CCTV that exonerated him, showing his hands full and their passing being less than half a second.I'm painfully aware. I'm not quite sure how any psychologically normal human being can countenance that. It's one of those instances where any sane human would have to stand back and go "hang on, there's stuff where there's arguments over whether it's OK, but this is just beyond insane." When I found out about that was the point at which I started to think there really was a serious problem with gender politics, at least in the UK. This is how we slipped into some of the worst stuff that's ever … | /r/MensRights | 19/01/24 12:33 PM |
| 7 | Man who walked by a "well known actress" charged with sexual assault. It wasn't until 6 months in that his defense team was allowed to see the CCTV that exonerated him, showing his hands full and their passing being less than half a second.If the prosecution rate has fallen,I wonder if the conviction rate has actually gone back up. When they started putting through all these poorly-evidenced cases, they were warned it would actually lead to a drop in the proportion of all cases that led to a conviction, which it did. | /r/MensRights | 19/01/24 09:44 AM |
| 7 | Man who walked by a "well known actress" charged with sexual assault. It wasn't until 6 months in that his defense team was allowed to see the CCTV that exonerated him, showing his hands full and their passing being less than half a second.That's the scary thing about it. We'll never know why she did it because it's illegal to ask her and publish the answer. Theories abound. One is that she's just so full of herself that being brushed past on a railway station seemed like such a horrendous insult that this seemed like a reasonable response. One other speculation (and it is speculation) is that the legal people basically put her up to it. Perhaps she'd have some sort of lower level complaint about a very trivial collision on the st… | /r/MensRights | 19/01/24 09:40 AM |
| 23 | Man who walked by a "well known actress" charged with sexual assault. It wasn't until 6 months in that his defense team was allowed to see the CCTV that exonerated him, showing his hands full and their passing being less than half a second.Can't. Not allowed to reveal the identity of sexual assault victims. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so horrendous. | /r/MensRights | 19/01/24 09:29 AM |
| 31 | Argentina: ‘All feminists are under attack’: ultra-right threat in Milei’s Argentina forces writer into exile.it shuts me up ...she said to a Guardian journalist who then quoted her in a major newspaper. | /r/MensRights | 18/01/24 08:28 AM |
| 1 | Feminists argue that misandry is ok because misandry is harmless. But misandry kills more people than misogynyMuch as what you say is true I can't say I like the title. This is not a competition nor should it be. I would criticise anyone, of any political persuasion, who put it like that. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/24 11:26 PM |
| 3 | Debunking "Systemic Misandry"? - Dr. Taylor's 37 Questions ChallengeHonestly, don't engage. You'll never change her mind and you'll make yourself unpopular. Obviously, her argument barely qualifies as an argument, particularly for the reason u/rslashgigi mentions below, but in the end this mainly boils down to what the word "systemic" means which is not particularly well defined in this context. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/24 08:18 PM |
| 10 | Women posting about hating short men on social media. Why does the mainstream ignore this?I'm your height and I feel exactly the same way. I should probably be clear that I'm also an ugly, awkward guy who's been with the same person since 2007, she makes vastly more money than I ever will doing an almost stereotypically masculine job, and as such I guess if I had any insecurities I'd be a gibbering wreck by now. Being an ugly nerd has its advantages, height be damned. I just do not care. I'm told it's my most attractive quality. Find someone you're friends with first, folks. | /r/MensRights | 16/01/24 05:59 PM |
| 14 | Katarzyna Kotula: Unequal retirement age discriminates against menMy mother and father are unusually far apart in age, so this is something that struck me comparatively early in life. For most of the time there has been an officially-established age for pensionability, in most countries, women have lived longer but retired sooner. This has never made sense. | /r/MensRights | 16/01/24 05:53 PM |
| 10 | Women posting about hating short men on social media. Why does the mainstream ignore this?Are there any women behind those walls of makeup? (and, er, I'm six feet three. Since I'm neither rich nor attractive, I'd still expect any one of those shallow, vapid losers to walk past me on their determined journey to single motherhood.) | /r/MensRights | 16/01/24 05:12 PM |
| 2 | All roads lead to "Patriarchy"Christ, I hope not, she makes way more money than me. But seriously - no, they're not, not really. Nobody should be totalling up what each person has done for the other in a relationship. Inevitably we like people for their behaviour to an extent, but in extremis that sort of thinking is not likely to lead to a worthwhile long term relationship. People need to be friends first, to value each others' company for its own sake. I think that's too often overlooked. | /r/MensRights | 16/01/24 11:55 AM |
| 5 | Why are feminists[feminists, NOT WOMEN], so obsessed with poking fun at men's insecurities as a form of ad hominem during heated arguments? Why can't they just argue like sane grown adults instead of resorting to high school level insults?The reaction is "OK, if you say so," and carry on with what you were saying. | /r/MensRights | 16/01/24 11:52 AM |
| 4 | All roads lead to "Patriarchy"I've certainly met people, in person, who attributed both the successes and failures of men to something loosely referred to as "the patriarchy," yes. It's not unusual if you talk to the right people in the right circumstances. You'd think that it would only happen over widely-spaced periods of time - people often forget what they said last week - but I could name the people in one meeting who claimed within half an hour's time that the disadvantaged position of men in education and the preponde… | /r/MensRights | 16/01/24 11:20 AM |
| 8 | All roads lead to "Patriarchy"I think it depends who you talk to. I have met a lot of people who prefer not to think of themselves as feminists because it's increasingly associated with the points of view I describe. Others, less so. I won't go out of my way to disagree with anyone until I understand that person's actual views, so if you want to discuss it, I'm absolutely ready for dialogue. | /r/MensRights | 16/01/24 12:46 AM |
| 5 | All roads lead to "Patriarchy"Sounds a bit transactional to me, I don't know. In the end it's a matter for you and your partner. I do think people should talk about this stuff more openly, though. And that doesn't mean "start an argument," it means "have a discussion over coffee." | /r/MensRights | 15/01/24 04:21 PM |
| 9 | All roads lead to "Patriarchy"I think the problem here is one semantics, of how words are interpreted. For instance, many people who identify as feminists would claim that it is a movement directed at equality, but I think it's very clear from their behaviour that many (perhaps not all) self-identifying feminists hold appalling prejudices based on gender. Similarly, various sources make various claims about what the word "patriarchy" means, but in my experience it is used almost solely as a means to express a form of bigotry… | /r/MensRights | 15/01/24 04:16 PM |
| 40 | All roads lead to "Patriarchy"I think I've put it similarly: If men do well, it's because they're evil. If women do well, it's because they're wonderful. Truly it is the universal justification for everything. | /r/MensRights | 15/01/24 04:11 PM |
| 10 | All roads lead to "Patriarchy"My partner and I have discussed this at length. Personally I wouldn't want her to lose her family name. She is who she is. I love her for her individual identity and I would not wish to compromise that. Now, you can argue about how much of that is really tied up in a name - arguably not much - but even if we were married, which we're not, we've agreed that she would keep her name. | /r/MensRights | 15/01/24 04:10 PM |
| 7 | All roads lead to "Patriarchy"To anyone who's looked into this at anything more than puddle depth, everything in that presentation is patently obvious - the sad thing is that it's still necessary to say it, and that there are huge numbers of people who will argue with it nonetheless. Not because they think it's untrue, but because arguing with evidence of problems being experienced mainly by men is just... what you do, isn't it? In the end, despite their claims of a dedication to equality, I have never, ever seen anyone who … | /r/MensRights | 15/01/24 04:07 PM |
| 3 | Ecosexual doctor thinks it's cute when 5 year old sings along to Taylor Swift lyrics "fuck the patriarchy" in front of 70k fansThat made me laugh so hard that coffee came out of my nose. Thanks, I shall file that in the back of my brain. | /r/MensRights | 15/01/24 10:54 AM |
| 6 | Woman Admits to Lying About Rape, her father spending 15 years in prison, no Charges Filed. Says she did it because she was "disappointed in father after he divorced her mother".It does pop up if you Google the name. One complication is that this kid was eleven (or possibly twelve) years old when she made the accusation. She should have known better, very certainly, but that does affect things. | /r/MensRights | 15/01/24 10:27 AM |
| 1 | Eliminating factors for dating?On the contrary, I think recognition that some issues are complicated should be a lot more common than it is. It shouldn't be an excuse for excessive moral relativism, as you say, but one of the things about politics - particularly those discussed on this subreddit - is that they're almost always complex issues. If they were simple, there wouldn't be a subreddit about it. This is why soundbite politics (such as popularised by modern politicians and social media uses alike) is so damaging. Almost… | /r/MensRights | 14/01/24 07:21 PM |
| 9 | My school recently had a "modern thinking day"I'd be interested in their explanation of "Men are a protected class". Yeah, so would I. As far as I can see it's the exact opposite of the truth. Straight, white, able-bodied, middle-class men are the only remaining group in society about whom it's almost universally acceptable to hold outspoken prejudices. Where laws, rules and guidelines are written to protect any particular class, they are almost never (absolutely never in my experience, but that's the benefit of the doubt) written to protec… | /r/MensRights | 14/01/24 07:15 PM |
| 3 | Considering how the average man is treated by society nowadays, is walking away from marriage, children, and other stuff men are supposed to have legitimate/comprehensible? What do you think?I notice the top comment here makes this about dating which isn't really what I take from this. I have to say that I've taken an unconventional path through life and I couldn't be happier. We are not married and don't have kids, we both have busy careers we love, and it wouldn't be very fair to bring a kid into that situation. In my mid-40s it is theoretically possible that could change but I see no evidence of it happening. I don't feel particularly put upon by society. Yes, we've both had peop… | /r/MensRights | 14/01/24 12:40 PM |
| 1 | Eliminating factors for dating?Wearing makeup is not really a societal expectation because the vast majority of men don't give a shit If you wear makeup and actually prefer if you don't. I don't know how true that is in general, but I don't think that's really the point. Confront many women with this and they'll claim they don't do it for the sake of men. Again, I don't know how true that is, and given that a lot of makeup, at the most basic level, is designed to simulate (or frankly charicature) traditionally-recognised indi… | /r/MensRights | 14/01/24 12:20 PM |
| 1 | Should paternity tests be mandatory?I would point out that the title of that video, alongside the picture of that woman, is misleading. She absolutely did have to prove it. The judge behaved entirely correctly (as did the man, strictly in the context of the hearing. Sleeping with a much younger receptionist while married is another matter). | /r/MensRights | 13/01/24 06:47 PM |
| 4 | Eliminating factors for dating?Oh, I wouldn't argue for a heartbeat. I just made it about makeup because I'd had a discussion with someone about it (another conclusion we reached is that considering most makeup is pretty much just various combinations of talc, some sort of mineral or vegetable oil, and pigment, it's also ludicrously expensive.) I think the point is if you don't want to do it, don't do it. I wouldn't see it as my place to make a woman, or women in general, do or not do anything, and I'd rightly get told off fo… | /r/MensRights | 13/01/24 05:57 PM |
| 2 | Might be in midst of a false rape accusationHang on, this woman called the police to complain about you, and your father, and you continued a relationship with her, and now she's done that again? And you're still talking to her? Get a lawyer and follow that lawyer's advice. | /r/MensRights | 13/01/24 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Eliminating factors for dating?Nobody said anyone needed makeup, just like nobody needs the gym (I've never been in a gym in my life and I'm not sure anyone I know has either). The degree to which anyone benefits from either of those things depends, I'd speculate, on exactly what that person does for a living and who they associate with, and that goes both ways. In the end I think women are under a greater expectation to wear makeup than men are to spend time in the gym, and on average spend more time and money on it, but I w… | /r/MensRights | 13/01/24 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Eliminating factors for dating?I don't know if I entirely agree with you. Let's just take makeup as an example to discuss. I think it's probably fair to say that fulfilling some societal expectations is more work for women than it is for men. Even a basic daily makeup routine takes longer and costs more than going over your face with an electric shaver. I draw this conclusion from several places, but one good example was a discussion I had with a young woman where we compared how long we needed to leave between the alarm goin… | /r/MensRights | 13/01/24 03:03 PM |
| -1 | Young men are accomplishing less than ever before. Experts point to 'male malaise.'To an extent, yes, but regardless I wouldn't lead this sort of discussion with consideration of relationship status, because it gives a lot of ammunition to people who'd like to write off everything said on this subreddit as the complaints of frustrated suitors. | /r/MensRights | 11/01/24 04:09 PM |
| -10 | Young men are accomplishing less than ever before. Experts point to 'male malaise.'Is this (or should it be) solely about sex? This isn't so much about relationships, it's about people being economically productive, useful members of society. The relationship stuff is perhaps a consequence of that, quite understandably, but there's more to this than just how much people are getting laid. | /r/MensRights | 11/01/24 01:28 PM |
| 5 | Radical Feminists encourages Women and Girls to be angry and rude, seek attention and power, and be lustful and violent when appropriate.Why do clearly self absorbed crazy people get lauded all the time? Simple answer? Because it makes us read the article. Which it did, to be fair. | /r/MensRights | 11/01/24 10:56 AM |
| 4 | Radical Feminists encourages Women and Girls to be angry and rude, seek attention and power, and be lustful and violent when appropriate.This is a large part of why I think this is an important subject. What I'm about to say is not really a men's rights issue inasmuch as it deals with the hireability of women, but if I tried to say this on any of the feminist subreddits, where it would be valuable on-topic discussion, I'd be banned in a heartbeat, so I guess this is the only forum we have for the discussion. The article quotes a number of unfounded allegations, given with no evidence. Even so, if we take it at face value, people … | /r/MensRights | 11/01/24 10:34 AM |
| 3 | What would your response to this post be?No. And neither does anyone else, on the basis nobody has psionic powers. | /r/MensRights | 11/01/24 10:24 AM |
| -5 | Most transgender people who detransition are FTM. On the detransition Reddit, it's mostly women realizing being a man makes you invisible and that the privilege is not real.Are you responding to me, or someone else? I didn't use the word compassionate. I think what you've done there, anyway, is to make it clear that what's really important is that when this is done, it's done correctly. The problem is that it's being rushed, for all kinds of extremely terrible ideological reasons. No matter what anyone thinks, it's always going to be necessary to treat people at some level. Yes, this is to some extent a Faustian bargain, but that's medicine. | /r/MensRights | 10/01/24 08:44 AM |
| -5 | Most transgender people who detransition are FTM. On the detransition Reddit, it's mostly women realizing being a man makes you invisible and that the privilege is not real.There's not necessarily a problem with doing this to children. We do all kinds of awful things to kids. Kids who have meningitis get their hands and feet amputated, sometimes. It's horrific, but it's sometimes necessary. The problem is that in the circumstance you describe is that it's sometimes being done without due consideration. That's the problem. Not that it's being done to kids. Kids who transition early, when that's appropriate, are likely to get far better long term outcomes. It's impor… | /r/MensRights | 10/01/24 02:38 AM |
| 5 | Most transgender people who detransition are FTM. On the detransition Reddit, it's mostly women realizing being a man makes you invisible and that the privilege is not real.That's more or less what I read, and I think that's reasonable. My understanding is that's broadly what most of the clinicians wanted to do, but there simply wasn't the time to do it given such a huge number of patients. The problem here comes when it's rushed, when people go from presenting with potential gender dysphoria, to blockers, to hormones and surgery without the proper procedure having been followed. It was being rushed. I'll be the first to object when people start to use that as a re… | /r/MensRights | 10/01/24 01:35 AM |
| 2 | Most transgender people who detransition are FTM. On the detransition Reddit, it's mostly women realizing being a man makes you invisible and that the privilege is not real.I'm sure there are, but it'd generally be places where there's no mechanism to diagnose or treat it, which is a pretty miserable situation in itself. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/24 09:34 PM |
| 5 | Most transgender people who detransition are FTM. On the detransition Reddit, it's mostly women realizing being a man makes you invisible and that the privilege is not real.I would say I don't think anyone is being deliberately targeted, to use your term. Perhaps the algorithms of social media are targeting people, but then they target everyone with things the algorithm thinks will interest them and keep them on the site, regardless whether that's good for anyone or not. I don't think many living people are really deliberately targeting young people and trying to make this happen. There are always extremist nutjobs, but I think the general push here is to support p… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/24 09:04 PM |
| 10 | Most transgender people who detransition are FTM. On the detransition Reddit, it's mostly women realizing being a man makes you invisible and that the privilege is not real.I'm not sure this is to do with some sort of direct trauma associated with being a man. I think it's probably because young women are disproportionately becoming convinced that they're suffering from gender dysphoria to the extent that drugs and surgery are a reasonable treatment, and they're later realising that was a mistake quite independently of gender politics around men. This is complicated. Someone might not enjoy being a man because that person is not psychologically male. Someone might … | /r/MensRights | 09/01/24 08:10 PM |
| 5 | Female conscription not part of Ukraine's new draft law -parliament memberIt's almost as if it's become a way of justifying anything, while simultaneously making any negative outcome the fault of people they're bigoted against... | /r/MensRights | 09/01/24 03:24 PM |
| -14 | I'm a really great, caring, generous, loving guy.....and at 39, I've already had 2 women try to falsely claim physical abuse or sexual harassment. Is this normal?To be scrupulously fair, we only have your side of this and presumably she would also have a side. I am not necessarily unsympathetic to your cause but in the end everyone here only knows you as a username on the internet. I question the value of posting this here because there will inevitably be a lot of subtleties that we can't possibly be aware of. I'll say it again: if you're being as truthful as you know how it sounds terrible. You've been unlucky (or you have a regrettable weakness for thi… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/24 02:17 PM |
| 2 | A right we need...I sympathise. That's incredibly poor behaviour on her part and more than enough reason to excommunicate her from your life and have nothing to do with her ever again, although it sounds like that point was moot by the time you became aware of it. Shit behaviour. But, unfortunately, a situation forced upon us by biological reality. That biology screws us all (pun entirely intended) in different ways and the solution to that is communication and even-handed fairness, which unfortunately is difficu… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/24 12:21 PM |
| 5 | UK: Sunderland footballer, 23, Jack Diamond is cleared of raping a woman he met on a Tinder date OP: Should never have gone to court.Well, maybe, but how's he going to take this woman to the civil court when he's not permitted to publicise her identity... It's positively Kafkaesque. I don't know and I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice, but I suspect he would have to pursue some sort of petition to a competent court as specified in S1 of the act given above, in order to get the naming restriction lifted, presumably based on the argument that the case was utter pigshit from the word go. That might be a hard argument … | /r/MensRights | 09/01/24 12:08 PM |
| 1 | Why do feminists blame beauty standards on men? They say things like "we have to wear makeup" and you "wouldn't make it a day in heels"First time I met my current partner she was wearing olive green overalls and military boots... It's been fifteen years now! | /r/MensRights | 09/01/24 11:33 AM |
| 0 | Man threw a smoke bomb at girl as a prank, and she threw a pot of boiling water in his faceLooks very much like dry ice to me. Steam wouldn't hug the floor like that. You can see the mist falling. Yes, dry ice can in theory cause frostbite. To cause injuries it would have to sit against the skin for a couple of seconds. It is a solid and in that situation I would expect it to mostly bounce off and I would not expect it to cause an injury. If a chunk of it went down his shirt and was stuck against his skin, it might cause a small area of frostbite, depending how big a chunk it was. It'… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/24 11:27 AM |
| 5 | A right we need...You do have a say, assuming that you're having conversations with the mother. You don't have the final say. That's the sad reality. We can't be forcing people to have, or not to have, medical care. Nobody has to like this reality but it is reality. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/24 11:17 AM |
| 4 | I got accepted as an MFA to one of the top art schools in the world. I intended to make a film about being abused by my mother but none of the feminists would allow it.That's a really good idea. Make a docco covering what happened and covering the reaction to it. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/24 11:16 AM |
| 9 | UK: Sunderland footballer, 23, Jack Diamond is cleared of raping a woman he met on a Tinder date OP: Should never have gone to court.The problem is (and this is legitimate) that the court's job is not to prove that something didn't happen. That sounds like a difference without a distinction, but it really isn't; it hasn't proven that this didn't happen, it's shown there wasn't enough evidence for a reliable conviction, which is not the same thing. I mean, sometimes it might be more or less the same thing, but in general it is not, and that's where this gets difficult. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/24 11:15 AM |
| 3 | Why do feminists blame beauty standards on men? They say things like "we have to wear makeup" and you "wouldn't make it a day in heels"I posted this over on r/stupidquestions just a few minutes ago, before I was aware of this thread: I was having a conversation with a female acquaintance about this a couple of weeks ago. She wasn't wearing makeup, it being a day of hard physical work, and more than one person had asked her whether she was OK, as she looked "tired". We barely know what people look like bare-faced these days, which is insane. My position is that this will continue until people (women, let's face it) decide they'r… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/24 11:11 AM |
| 6 | Woman can use being drunk as an excuse while men cannotThat's fine so long as we're happy to tell everyone, men and women, to just walk away from situations like this. Which, honestly, we probably should. Being touched up is unpleasant, massively impolite, and at least arguably criminal sexual assault, but I'm not sure it helps society much to turn every incident like this into a police matter. I'd say the same about catcalling, etc. The problem is not so much the behaviour, it's the double standards. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/24 11:29 AM |
| 1 | Woman can use being drunk as an excuse while men cannotNo idea why anyone's voting this down, sounds completely reasonable to me. I would say that what's being discussed here isn't violence. It's impolite, it's sexual assault, but it's not as if anyone's being put in hospital by this stuff. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/24 11:28 AM |
| -2 | UK: Vengeful wife, 39, jailed for 27 months after burning down the marital home when court awarded it to her husband in their divorce - before trying to frame him for the crimeOkay fine, but I think we need to be a bit clearer than that, considering it threw me and there were a lot of people just looking for a reason to attack us. | /r/MensRights | 07/01/24 02:45 AM |
| -1 | UK: Vengeful wife, 39, jailed for 27 months after burning down the marital home when court awarded it to her husband in their divorce - before trying to frame him for the crimeOh c'mon, that's the sort of reactionary bullshit that gets this sub a bad name. No, the average woman in UK society is not this kind of dangerous, destructive criminal. | /r/MensRights | 06/01/24 06:27 PM |
| 22 | UK: Vengeful wife, 39, jailed for 27 months after burning down the marital home when court awarded it to her husband in their divorce - before trying to frame him for the crimeI went to school with someone who knowingly and deliberately murdered her husband and got less than that. | /r/MensRights | 06/01/24 06:26 PM |
| 1 | British police are planning to use LIE DETECTOR machines against men accused of domestic violence to deny them due process. Government intends to back them....No, really.There's an even more disturbing interpretation than that, if you want it. I hesitate to give this the oxygen of publicity because it is, and is likely to remain, wild speculation. We should not indulge in wild speculation. Still, it's interesting enough, even in principle, that it seems worth airing even with that huge caveat. There is speculation that she was put up to this by the CPS. At the time - and now, as far as I know - the criminal justice system in the UK was under a lot of very specif… | /r/MensRights | 06/01/24 06:02 PM |
| 4 | British police are planning to use LIE DETECTOR machines against men accused of domestic violence to deny them due process. Government intends to back them....No, really.What I don't get is why she did it. As far as I know they'd never interacted before and had no connection. What on earth does it take to be walking across a railway station platform one day and arbitrarily pick someone out of a crowd. I mean, people gripe about unlikely events here sometimes, but that's just utterly terrifying, to know that any woman can do that to any man at any time for any reason or none, and the system will pursue it. | /r/MensRights | 05/01/24 11:10 AM |
| 13 | British police are planning to use LIE DETECTOR machines against men accused of domestic violence to deny them due process. Government intends to back them....No, really.Nothing can solve everything. Consider the case of Mark Pearson, who spent (as I recall) a bit more than a year under suspicion of what would have been a particularly horrible sexual assault - if it had happened, which it didn't. What actually happened was that he passed a woman on a railway station concourse. He didn't know her, she didn't know him, there's no evidence they even touched each other, she failed to pick him out of an identity parade, there were dozens of witnesses and multi-camera… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/24 01:55 AM |
| 1 | Feminists make things worse for sexual assault victims just as much as someone who victim blames them.The reality here is that in developed countries, the criminal justice system is desperately keen to convict rapists because (if nothing else) the politics around it are overwhelming. The issue is that it's not a matter of desire, it's a matter of process. They're so keen to achieve convictions for this particular crime that they changed the approach a few years ago to increase the number of complaints which actually went to court. Because they were already prosecuting as many cases as they reaso… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/24 02:28 PM |
| 1 | "Masculinities" at UMASS Amherst. WTF?There was a girls-only day in the computer lab at lunchtime when I was at school in the mid-90s. Wednesdays, if memory serves. The result was a completely empty room, which was apparently some sort of victory for feminism. It's not a new thing. Those were the roots of what we see now. | /r/MensRights | 04/01/24 09:43 AM |
| 7 | (Minor) BBC Radio 1 news highlights—sounded more like celebrated—number of weeks women were number 1 in music charts in ‘23. I don’t recall them celebrating anything similar about male achievement: when men are doing better, it tends to be given as an example of bias & something that needs to changeWhen men do well, it's because they're evil. When women do well, it's because they're wonderful. The women-are-wonderful effect is in full swing here. | /r/MensRights | 04/01/24 09:35 AM |
| 1 | Found some evidence with my partner, on how feminism hurts men. "Huuur duuur feminism HeLpS EvErYBoDy"Oh, fair play, then. I can't imagine who would object! | /r/MensRights | 03/01/24 02:48 AM |
| -2 | Found some evidence with my partner, on how feminism hurts men. "Huuur duuur feminism HeLpS EvErYBoDy"Christ, you're voting me down for correcting your spelling? Men's rights really are doomed. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/24 12:24 PM |
| 1 | Found some evidence with my partner, on how feminism hurts men. "Huuur duuur feminism HeLpS EvErYBoDy"That's not how you spell "Duluth." | /r/MensRights | 31/12/23 09:02 PM |
| 7 | Females are far creepier towards males, on average, than vice versa, but society mostly looks the other way.I keep saying this, but if unwanted hugging is sexual assault, as I've been told it is on more than one occasion, I'm sexually assaulted a couple of times most weeks. No, I don't like it. No, just because I'm a man does not mean I constantly crave physical contact with women I'm not romantically interested in, and no, I'm not romantically interested in anyone but my long term partner, which is why she's my long term partner. Yes, it is forced upon me by people who laugh at my reluctance. Yes, I'… | /r/MensRights | 31/12/23 05:54 PM |
| 2 | I'm not British but, this is appalling.I can't disagree, although the problem isn't really the specific description of the offence. It's still quite possible for a woman to be convicted for perpetrating a serious sexual assault in the UK, although you can probably imagine how often that happens. If the definition of rape were to be widened to make it possible for women to be convicted - as it should be - it probably wouldn't make much difference. We'd still live in a world where it was still incredibly difficult to get women punished… | /r/MensRights | 31/12/23 05:48 PM |
| 0 | Found some evidence with my partner, on how feminism hurts men. "Huuur duuur feminism HeLpS EvErYBoDy"It'd look better if whoever made it knew how to spell the name of the town after which the model is named. C'mon, we can do better than that. | /r/MensRights | 31/12/23 05:42 PM |
| 14 | Please be carefull. Subs general directionAgree completely. The problem is that the other side generally will not tolerate discussion in places they control, and will not discuss things anywhere else. This is a huge part of the problem in general, at a societal level. | /r/MensRights | 30/12/23 10:23 AM |
| 0 | Please be carefull. Subs general directionI don't necessarily agree with a lot of OP's claims here - I don't see a greater-than-usual number of posts talking about how people dress, for instance - but I have always been concerned that some of the more radical elements we see here are not good for anyone, us included. That's particularly the case when a decent number of posts seem to be about people's recent relationship problems, and even when it's not, I question whether some of the stuff that gets posted here is really a men's rights … | /r/MensRights | 30/12/23 10:03 AM |
| 5 | Newsweek steps up and speaks truth to ♀👸👁⃤ : "the migration of young men away from college can be explained by a growing and widespread skepticism over higher education and the high student debt it often leads to"If all that stuff about college not being worth it was true, you'd expect it to affect women equally. And - to drift off topic - for what it's worth, I think there's a pretty good argument that college isn't worth it. Unless you're doing something for which you need paperwork that absolutely requires a degree as a formal prerequisite, I'd give it a miss. I work in a field that's often seen as interesting and desirable (I hasten to add, it really isn't) and I am occasionally approached by people … | /r/MensRights | 28/12/23 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Airlines moving men away from unaccompanied childrenHell, I'll vote you back up one, at least. When I read the title of this, I assumed the men were demanding to be moved away from the kid, which, honestly, I hadn't even considered was an option. Will now, though... | /r/MensRights | 27/12/23 06:33 PM |
| 3 | Your Journey To Mens Rights? What opened your eyes?You talk about it silencing young women and you're right. One of the reasons I am here is that I see this stuff disadvantaging both young men and young women. The men are being barred from doing things; the women are being discouraged from even trying by a narrative that relies on pushing the idea that they are likely to face horrible prejudice. I think that's untrue, or at the very least far less true than is often claimed. My (female) partner does an almost stereotypically masculine job and is… | /r/MensRights | 26/12/23 11:56 AM |
| 1 | Your Journey To Mens Rights? What opened your eyes?I watched young white men being banned from events by my union for being young white men. As if it makes any difference, there was more than ample room at these events for everyone, we desperately needed more people to attend, and it was brazenly political. And this was the union. This is the organisation that's supposed to be helping people out. You don't see the employers doing that, because their feet wouldn't touch the ground. | /r/MensRights | 26/12/23 11:48 AM |
| 1 | In an online survey of 1124 heterosexual British men using a modified CDC National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey, 71% of men experienced some form of sexual victimization by a woman at least once during their lifetime.If being hugged by someone you've specifically told you don't want to hug is sexual assault, which I suspect it would be in the minds of many, then I'm sexually assaulted a couple of times a week, on average. Nobody seems to care. | /r/MensRights | 26/12/23 11:45 AM |
| 3 | Is this article true saying that female feminist are narcissists?I think you're fine, made sense to me (native English speaker). | /r/MensRights | 26/12/23 11:44 AM |
| 2 | Is this article true saying that female feminist are narcissists?And they're not. But honestly, enough of them are that it's not a great look. What I'd like to do is make sure that they can't say the same about people who post on this subreddit, which is, regrettably, not always guaranteed. | /r/MensRights | 26/12/23 11:43 AM |
| -21 | False rape accusation. Scott Espinosa spent 19 months in jail. His accuser, 22 year old Leslie Peterson is a drug addict, prostitute and single mother of 3 (no custody). Scott let her stay in his house as she told him that she was homeless. Scott's mother killed herself because of this ordeal.Depends on the circumstances. It's the prosecutor's job to push for a conviction. It is not nice. That's how this works, and I'll say that in exactly the same way that I'd say that complainants in a rape trial are going to get cross examined. That is not nice either, but that's also how this works. Whether the case gets pushed forward at all is the decision of a whole chain of people from the police down. It does sound like this was a pretty constructed case but you have to be careful who you're… | /r/MensRights | 24/12/23 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Why is it looked down upon to say "not all men" but people are accepted in saying "not all women?"Well, nothing in language is really defined; things change constantly, and meaning is to an extent a matter of opinion. It's a matter of degree. Feminism is not well defined. There are more than a few people calling themselves feminists who are just a bit misguided. The problem is that your approach seeks to tell them what they think, and you will often be wrong, and they are likely to harden their views as a result - with some justification. That's not a matter of opinion, and it does not help … | /r/MensRights | 24/12/23 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Why is it looked down upon to say "not all men" but people are accepted in saying "not all women?"You're saying that we should believe that people who call themselves Nazis are Nazis, and people who call themselves flat-earthers are flat-earthers, but people who call themselves feminists are not actually feminists. No. I'm saying that the word "feminist" as used by (at least some) people who call themselves feminists has no very reliable meaning. As such, someone can be actually a feminist, to use your phrase, by their own definition, yet have little in common with other people who self-desc… | /r/MensRights | 24/12/23 04:21 PM |
| 1 | Why is it looked down upon to say "not all men" but people are accepted in saying "not all women?"Same answer, I think. Someone who claims to be a flat-earther is pretty much unequivocally stating that they hold provably counterfactual views. Someone who claims to be a feminist isn't - necessarily. Again, for the avoidance of doubt, I'd never describe myself as a feminist because the term is so frequently associated with outright bigotry, but some people will, and it's political foolishness to annoy those people (I wouldn't refer to myself as a men's rights activist for similar reasons, thou… | /r/MensRights | 24/12/23 12:00 PM |
| 1 | Why is it looked down upon to say "not all men" but people are accepted in saying "not all women?"I take your point to a degree. I think the operative point here is that there is a lot of disagreement over the meaning of the word "feminist," whereas there's practically none over the meaning of the word "Nazi." This matters because we should not seek to alienate moderates who may proudly self-describe using the term "feminist" without having looked very deeply into what it is being used to describe. Many people who support feminism, as with other things which have become associated with criti… | /r/MensRights | 24/12/23 01:41 AM |
| 2 | Many women are absolutely "Sexist", in spite of "Feminist Fundamentalists" claiming otherwise. According to a recent scientific study, women were found to be happier in their relationships when their partner had more "power".It happens because there is no downside. Women are largely free to say whatever they want about men, in much the same way the most appalling, outspoken, direct racial bigotry is expressed by anyone who isn't white about anyone who is. There is no control over it; it is not disapproved-of. Both my examples kept their jobs; my first example later reinforced that she was not joking and the latter only got in serious trouble when she was accused of antisemitism after years of intermittent racist out… | /r/MensRights | 23/12/23 06:10 PM |
| 7 | Four men discussing "Men's Rights" with Pearl DavisI have to raise an objection to the references to secularism, many of which are made in the opening. I'm as secular as they come, but I don't think anyone is blind to the value of a dedicated, long-term relationship, and the desirability of having that in order to live a happy and fulfilled life and do the best possible job raising children. That's not some trad-con religious worldview; we're not married and we don't have kids, but we do have a long term relationship which is very valuable. Inst… | /r/MensRights | 23/12/23 04:20 PM |
| 2 | Many women are absolutely "Sexist", in spite of "Feminist Fundamentalists" claiming otherwise. According to a recent scientific study, women were found to be happier in their relationships when their partner had more "power".It's all a big quid pro quo. She doesn't steal my chocolate cake, I don't steal her broccoli and toenail smoothie, or whatever that hideous gunk is. For the scowling pedants among us, yes, we share a lot of fun over this stuff, and that is a normal interpersonal relationship. | /r/MensRights | 23/12/23 12:13 PM |
| 2 | Many women are absolutely "Sexist", in spite of "Feminist Fundamentalists" claiming otherwise. According to a recent scientific study, women were found to be happier in their relationships when their partner had more "power".Eh, c'mon, that's not true in general and I suspect you know it. It is very important that we do not fall into the trap of generalising our negative experiences with certain people into assumptions about every member of the group they're part of. That's what they do. If you have had negative experiences with women which were exacerbated by the extremes of modern critical social justice and extremist feminism, then I'm sure you have the sympathy of everyone here. We know: people lose their homes,… | /r/MensRights | 23/12/23 11:04 AM |
| 3 | Many women are absolutely "Sexist", in spite of "Feminist Fundamentalists" claiming otherwise. According to a recent scientific study, women were found to be happier in their relationships when their partner had more "power".To be scrupulously fair, that is an apex fallacy, just like the claim that men are on average more violent than women (true) therefore all men are more violent than all women (not true). Only a tiny number of either gender are murdering their kids. I would believe women are more supportive, caring and nurturing in general. | /r/MensRights | 23/12/23 11:00 AM |
| 3 | Many women are absolutely "Sexist", in spite of "Feminist Fundamentalists" claiming otherwise. According to a recent scientific study, women were found to be happier in their relationships when their partner had more "power".I'm only working on a sample of one here, but we have a rule: if my partner says she doesn't want a dessert, she's not having any of mine. Not one spoonful. That's my hot chocolate fudge cake with ice cream. Order your own... | /r/MensRights | 23/12/23 10:51 AM |
| 1 | Why is it looked down upon to say "not all men" but people are accepted in saying "not all women?""Feminists believe..." Much as I agree with you in general about the hypocrisy and double standards, let's not fall into their trap. The word "feminist" is not a controlled term (like "doctor" or "lawyer" are to some extent controlled terms) and no one person gets to define what it means; as such, some people who refer to themselves as feminists may simply be egalitarians. Not many, and even fewer on Reddit, but a few, and we should not annoy them by making generalisations about them. | /r/MensRights | 23/12/23 10:43 AM |
| 3 | Why is it looked down upon to say "not all men" but people are accepted in saying "not all women?"You're outlining the major problem with a lot of what I'd call critical social justice. People would argue with that definition, but terms like "feminist" are not controlled (like the term "doctor," for instance) and anyone is free to argue for any definition they like. But whatever definition you use, the problem, as you correctly outline, is the hypocrisy. Nobody should be campaigning to justify (for instance) women's fear of all men unless they're also okay with justifying (for instance) fear… | /r/MensRights | 23/12/23 10:39 AM |
| 4 | "Only 2% of SA allegations are false. Trust victims!" Bullshit.Nobody has any idea how many accusations are false because - notoriously, but inevitably - the court system is imperfect. Also, nobody has any idea how many accusations are never made, because people (of either gender) have no confidence they'll be taken seriously. This is not good. It is, however, this way for a reason. In most free-world countries the justice system is set up on the basis that we'd rather the guilty go free than the innocent are unjustly punished and as such it would really be… | /r/MensRights | 23/12/23 10:28 AM |
| 4 | Got into a quarrel with a feminist about dangers of generalisation.She faces threats of rape on a daily basis? Where the hell does she live, in a dystopian sci fi movie? Or does she actually live in a small town outside Portland where the last actual crime was in the 90s, and it's all in her head? | /r/MensRights | 23/12/23 09:11 AM |
| 4 | Education not responsible for the wage gap.The experience which finally pushed me over the edge on this (and prompted my earliest posts here) has something in common with this. I had been a union member for nearly two decades in a field which is probably second only to the fashion industry in its mistreatment of new entrants. There were and are very few formal training programs, and access to work was pretty much dependent on working for free, potentially for long periods. It wasn't great for anyone - and, yes, there was ample room for a… | /r/MensRights | 22/12/23 09:48 AM |
| 1 | How Is VAW "Systemic?"With a few exceptions, I've found that the terms "systemic" and "institutional" tend to be rolled out whenever someone wants to claim that something's true without needing to provide any evidence that it actually is. The problem with the various -isms that reportedly pervade society in 2023 is that quite a lot of people feel that they really ought to claim that various things are racist, sexist, and so on, but because most things really aren't, you get claims of institutional prejudice, which me… | /r/MensRights | 21/12/23 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Another California Father Loses Custody of His Son for Refusing to Affirm His 'Transgender' IdentityAs I say I have little or no information about this specific case so I restricted my comments to a hypothetical, on the basis it's more interesting and informative to discuss the general case. Is there anything in particular about my view of this that you disagree with? | /r/MensRights | 21/12/23 07:57 AM |
| 2 | According to the "Office Of National Statistics" in the United Kingdom, even though women reported they were more likely to be "worried" about being victims of crime, men were still more likely to be victims of crime.It's hardly surprising; there's a whole a belief system, practically an industry of political thought dedicated to maximising the victim status of certain groups. Oddly enough, if you do that, members of those groups are likely to end up believing themselves to be victims. I'd gently disagree that this is about, or at least entirely about, people's willingness to share their concerns. OK, this is all about what's going on inside people's heads and that's not something we can objectively assess; … | /r/MensRights | 20/12/23 05:57 PM |
| 3 | Another California Father Loses Custody of His Son for Refusing to Affirm His 'Transgender' IdentityI know nothing about this specific situation and therefore come at it with a completely open mind. The first consideration concerns the extent to which this guy has "refused to affirm" anything. For the sake of argument, let's deal with this as a hypothetical. Let's assume that they've had the kid assessed by a qualified gender identity specialist who has (without political influence) expressed the view that the kid might have gender dysphoria. I think that would be fairly rare at that age, but … | /r/MensRights | 20/12/23 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Johnathan Majors situation shows you're damned if you do damned if you don't.Not from the US, never heard of this guy. Where's this video, for those of us not in the know? I found some stuff of some guy pushing some girl into a car. Didn't look like he was deliberately trying to be violent, came off more than he was trying to get a drunken girl home safely, but I'm basing that on one twenty second piece of video. I could be entirely wrong. Could be a kidnapping. I dunno. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/23 07:05 PM |
| 2 | Your biggest criticisms of the word " Toxic Masculinity?"In theory, in the strictest possible sense, it would be possible to defend the term, in the same way one could refer to "rotten fruit;" it doesn't strictly imply all fruit is rotten. However, that's very much a logical pedant's interpretation. Nobody would tolerate a reference to "black criminality," even though arrest rates are higher among black people than non-black people, because that's a very complex issue with a lot of considerations. Similarly, nobody would tolerate a reference to "femal… | /r/MensRights | 19/12/23 09:12 AM |
| 2 | Men and women in 20 years. Where do you see it?It'll be a process, I'm sure. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/23 02:18 AM |
| 16 | Men and women in 20 years. Where do you see it?Uncharacteristically, I'm optimistic. I think that misguided efforts at social justice have a fairly short shelf life. In effect, modern critical social justice has become an extremism competition intended to establish who can make the most outrageous, prejudiced claims about anyone not of a traditional victim group, and that's only going to piss off more and more people as time goes on. Recent newspaper articles have suggested that DEI policies, in the sense of expressly disadvantaging non-vict… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/23 03:14 PM |
| 32 | What can the largest database of domestic violence research tell us?It's not really that surprising. Men hitting women is massively stigmatised and the vast majority of men know that. Women hitting men is not stigmatised - quite the opposite, often, it's seen as funny or empowering. We also know that women suffer negative emotion at a higher rate than men, and given there are few if any penalties for female-on-male violence, it's no shock to discover these numbers. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/23 03:06 PM |
| 6 | Article mentions that men who call themselves feminists, are the real mysogynists. And also cheat on womenI can only agree with people who've commented that this appears to be an article about people who are easily manipulated. Oddly enough that's not a trait I'd instinctively associate with women, who on average tend to score higher on social awareness, but I guess anyone's capable of getting all starry-eyed over someone they find attractive. Personally I'd be very suspicious of anyone (male or female) who self-identified using the word "feminist" on the basis that they're at best going to be a hig… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/23 07:59 AM |
| -2 | Whether you are pro-life or pro-choice, you have to agree that the modern Western discourse on the subject is completely gynocentric and screwed up.Well, sure, but if you want to grant the father the right to choose whether to become a parent, if he doesn't want to be, the only way you can make that happen is to forcibly abort the kid. I presume we're not talking about strapping some poor woman down to undergo an abortion she doesn't want. | /r/MensRights | 17/12/23 10:35 AM |
| 6 | Real sick of hearing feminists decry that they work and also do more house duties/choresMy experience of this is that, on average, women spend more time tidying and cleaning because they simply have higher standards for cleanliness and tidiness than men do. Obviously that's not going to apply to every woman or every man on the planet, but I think that may be a big part of it. I think that female standards for tidiness typically (again, not always) differ in the details from male standards. Men are in my experience less likely to care about a stack of dishes in the kitchen sink, but… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/23 10:31 AM |
| -5 | Whether you are pro-life or pro-choice, you have to agree that the modern Western discourse on the subject is completely gynocentric and screwed up.I think the problem is that you're conflating choice in parenthood, which sounds like a good thing, with requiring people to have abortions, which is the only way you can realistically implement choice in parenthood for men once a woman is pregnant. Regardless anyone's position on abortion in general it is not reasonable to forcibly require anyone to undergo a medical procedure, or even to coerce them into doing so, perhaps by threatening withdrawal of financial support from the father. You can'… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/23 10:21 AM |
| 2 | Are feminists and gynocentists evil? Or are they just stupid?Obviously all of this is dependent on your semantic definition of the word evil. Evil is a high bar. I think a lot of it comes from young, inexperienced women whose lives have been heavily influenced by modern identity politics, and who lack the life experience to recognise the problems with it. You only have to find someone who's suffered a bad relationship breakup; they're likely to be very receptive to any ideas that it isn't their fault. Men and women do this and we see it here on /r/mensrig… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/23 10:11 AM |
| 12 | Whether you are pro-life or pro-choice, you have to agree that the modern Western discourse on the subject is completely gynocentric and screwed up.The echo chamber is savage. Having witnessed the standard of discourse on /r/askfeminists I wouldn't waste my time; consulting reveddit on the subject reveals that, like many places which are heavily influenced by third- and even fourth-wave feminism, they control the debate by suppressing views they find inconvenient. In my view this is not the behaviour of people who are confident in their position and operating from a perspective of logic, but either way, it defeats the entire stated purpose … | /r/MensRights | 17/12/23 10:03 AM |
| -3 | Whether you are pro-life or pro-choice, you have to agree that the modern Western discourse on the subject is completely gynocentric and screwed up.I think it's a stretch to boil abortion down to female comfort. Having a kid you don't want, as either a man or a woman, is a bit more than uncomfortable, it's a potentially life-ruining disaster for many reasons. Yes, a lot of what's said on this subject relies on a centuries-old tendency to require men to accede to the whim of women on certain subjects, which is just as wrong as the centuries-old tendency to require women to (for instance) stay out of certain jobs. If there's an objection to m… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/23 09:58 AM |
| -1 | Whether you are pro-life or pro-choice, you have to agree that the modern Western discourse on the subject is completely gynocentric and screwed up.I think you (and a few other people) have perhaps misinterpreted what /u/DiskoFeever is trying to say, here. It's not that clear, but I certainly didn't take it to be against your thesis. | /r/MensRights | 17/12/23 09:37 AM |
| 6 | For the “by other men” argument that feminists love to use,It's true. The answer is "So?" If you want a comeback, the comeback is that most FGM is perpetrated by women, so does that make FGM okay? | /r/MensRights | 17/12/23 12:05 AM |
| 8 | I'm female. These are the only times I've faced any form of sexism or gender based inappropriate behavior.My partner spent 17 years in the military and tells much the same story. Did they kid around with her on the basis she was often the only woman present? Sure. But they also kidded around with the guy who had big ears, the guy with flaming red hair, the short fat guy, the tall skinny guy... if they hadn't done that you'd have felt left out. And that's something which we've heard complaints about in the past: particularly in traditionally male-dominated professions, people are becoming so careful … | /r/MensRights | 16/12/23 12:05 PM |
| 1 | Are younger women raised to be "sassy"?Not here they don't, at least not commonly. In a lot of countries that sort of discrimination is specifically illegal. In the UK, one police organisation requested an exemption from discrimination law on the basis it was the only way they were going to be able to increase the representation of certain ethnic groups. No matter what you think of that sort of initiative, it is against the law and the request was denied. I think it's reasonable to suspect that discrimination law is regularly broken … | /r/MensRights | 16/12/23 11:51 AM |
| 5 | Narcissists may engage in feminist activism to satisfy their grandiose tendencies, study suggestsNot surprising in the slightest. Honestly, though, I'd be happy to believe that anyone who's a hardline political activist for anything probably has some life experiences which pushed them toward it. One of the most horrible, outspokenly-bigoted people I ever personally met identified as a feminist. She had suffered some genuinely horrible gynaecological problems in the past. Cervical cancer is often described as relatively treatable, and it is, but the treatment is horrible and the side-effects… | /r/MensRights | 15/12/23 07:46 PM |
| 2 | Are younger women raised to be "sassy"?I can only speak subjectively, but I've been noticing something which may be related to this more or less since the pandemic. Young people in general are often encouraged to cultivate a forceful personality, to be outspoken in asking for what they want, to be go-getters. As with so many things this is valuable, even a necessary life skill, but only to an extent. Some young people - women, in particular - are taking it too much to heart and really just becoming abrasive, displaying a lot of what … | /r/MensRights | 15/12/23 07:38 PM |
| 4 | As MRAs, we've got to start talking to people and identifying openly.I couldn't agree more. I would avoid the term "activist" as it beckons unflattering comparisons to tedious, single-issue political bores. The term I think works best is egalitarian. It's a useful term because anyone who claims the most liberal definition of feminist is by definition an egalitarian, and the question is, if that's their definition, why they don't just refer to themselves as egalitarians. The true answer, all too frequently, is that many people who self-identify as feminists are at… | /r/MensRights | 15/12/23 07:25 PM |
| 1 | She just won the Nobel Prize in economics for work on gender pay gap proving no conspiracy exists by men.I guess the argument is that choosing to have kids shouldn't ideally make such a serious imposition on people's earning potential, men or women, and that isn't necessarily wrong. I mean, there are lots of people - men and women - who'd love to have families but right now don't feel like they can afford to. Whatever anyone thinks about this, having birth rates below replacement in many advanced economies is not sustainable. Here's my view on this. On one hand, we have people saying "well, people … | /r/MensRights | 10/10/23 11:29 AM |
| 2 | Is this sub becoming more infested with feminists?Not for a minute. That creates an echo chamber which is easily criticised as such. That's how r/askfeminists behaves and the result is that it's really just a chanting circle of terms from a fridge magnet set called something like "tropes of amateur feminism 2023." r/mensrights must not go that way. That's a disaster. | /r/MensRights | 08/10/23 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Is this sub becoming more infested with feminists?Eh... not really. Honestly I'd rather it was left absolutely as open as is reasonably possible. I've happily made myself unpopular here by introducing a bit of nuance, and that's exactly the kind of nuance that isn't tolerated over on r/askfeminists, for instance. I think as a result that subreddit is the very definition of an echo chamber and I would strongly encourage r/mensrights to avoid the same trap. We all need input from people we don't agree with and there is absolutely no benefit to so… | /r/MensRights | 08/10/23 08:34 PM |
| 20 | Men are more sexualized in media than women.The phrase you're looking for is "euphemism treadmill." No matter what term anyone uses for anything, if the thing you're referring to attracts any controversy, people start policing the language around it. It never helps, because people just come up with new ways to use language pejoratively. What it boils down to is that nobody can force anyone to like anyone by banning specific types of insult. If humans dislike each other, they'll find a way to express it. | /r/MensRights | 06/10/23 09:30 AM |
| 2 | Men and even women are uncomfortable critiquing womenI don't want to lecture anyone on what "natural femininity" is or should be. I know people who work in defence and they have various reasons for doing it. I'm just concerned that pushing people to be performatively self-assured, without taking a lot of care over how we do that, risks creating a self-fulfilling propehcy. I think it's happening more to women than men right now because young women are being advised to exhibit what often comes off as unpleasant parody of self-confidence. This is oft… | /r/MensRights | 06/10/23 08:38 AM |
| 3 | Men and even women are uncomfortable critiquing womenDisagreement obviously isn't illegal, per se, but I agree wholeheartedly that a lot of modern identity politics are often quite bad for the people they're aiming to protect. Not only do they encourage people in narcissism, as you say, but they lead people to believe they're at more risk of crime than they really are, and at greater disadvantage professionally than they really are. Worse, though, there's a terrible risk (in my direct experience) that modern gender politics is pushing at least som… | /r/MensRights | 05/10/23 06:18 PM |
| 2 | Feminists are crying again... this time about women being tried for murder in England for killing their newborns.I'm not quite sure what I'm being criticised for, to be honest. I conclude by agreeing with the court's decision to convict. | /r/MensRights | 03/10/23 08:11 AM |
| 4 | Landmark research study finds clear evidence of pro-women/anti-men bias — The Centre for Male PsychologyMuch as these results match my subjective impression of the world, I'm cautious. This appears to have been at least some sort of implicit association test, an IAT. IATs are a favourite approach to supporting critical race theory and they are, frankly, a load of balls; they've been used for years to inform us that we are implicitly racist, implicitly sexist, and so on. There are serious problems with IATs in that they do not generally predict behaviour - that is, IATs will predict that people dis… | /r/MensRights | 02/10/23 08:57 AM |
| 0 | Feminists are crying again... this time about women being tried for murder in England for killing their newborns.Well, that's kind of what I was saying about the original article. I tend to agree with what you're saying about a man not being given a similar benefit of the doubt, though I'm not sure how comparable the situations could ever be, given the guy is never going to find himself giving birth in a bedroom. Naturally people have successfully used the insanity defence in the past. And in the end, she wasn't given much benefit of the doubt: they convicted her. We're all painfully aware of the sentencin… | /r/MensRights | 02/10/23 01:58 AM |
| 3 | It's funny to see a Man himself tell us the we Men are the ones are always Bad and Fragile.This is one of those situations where you can, if you stand back a mile and look at the scene through one of those gauzy glamour filters they used to use on 1940s movies, come up with some sort of vague justification for all of that. She won't do anything? Well, OK, most men are mostly bigger than most women, so you could say men are at less risk from women than vice versa, so long as she doesn't pick up a weapon. I'm not sure that's actually stopping women from getting angry with men, though, i… | /r/MensRights | 02/10/23 01:50 AM |
| -6 | Feminists are crying again... this time about women being tried for murder in England for killing their newborns.It's worth saying that this kid's situation sounds completely horrendous. I don't particularly want to spend my thoughts grading deaths as more or less severe, but the justice system more or less has to do that when it chooses what crimes to charge people with, and judges do that when they sentence people, and I don't think most people would disagree that there's a hell of a lot of mitigating factors here. I could go on like that all night and people would still accuse me of not caring, so let i… | /r/MensRights | 02/10/23 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Male suicide discussion on the BBC. Or rather.....To be as generous as possible, it's difficult to say "feminism is no friend of men." It's not a controlled term (like "doctor") and anyone is free to use it to describe anything they can get away with. As such I don't think this is a very useful conversation; it just becomes a semantic argument. In the end, there are definitions of feminism which are substantially indistinguishable from egalitarianism, and egalitarianism is a fine and worthy philosophy. That said, I would accept that most of the… | /r/MensRights | 01/10/23 08:25 PM |
| 2 | Male suicide discussion on the BBC. Or rather.....I hope I've got a reputation for taking a reasonably moderate stance on this subreddit, but that really is particularly nasty. This whole discussion is one in which it's often very enlightening to put oneself in the position of the opposing party, to work out exactly what chain of thoughts might justify what's being said. You don't have to end up agreeing with anyone, but it's always a good idea to try and work out how people end up feeling okay about saying what they're saying. Here, I find mys… | /r/MensRights | 01/10/23 10:04 AM |
| 4 | The ridiculous arguments people make to deny discrimination against males.Ah, I think I get your meaning. Diagnosing autism is used as a means of attacking one group, while simultaneously, not diagnosing autism is used to attack another group, firmly establishing the truth that being autistic is good and bad simultaneously. ... Do I have that right? (Sarcasm emoji) | /r/MensRights | 30/09/23 11:52 PM |
| 31 | The ridiculous arguments people make to deny discrimination against males.Help me understand the thesis here. When women did worse, it was because of discrimination (and I tend to agree). When men do worse, it's because they're so stupid? | /r/MensRights | 30/09/23 08:29 PM |
| 2 | Why are men more likely to leave sick partner? Is this study legit?Let's play devil's advocate. Let's say men do divorce more during sickness and it's all for selfish reasons. Okay. Do women have any right to criticize men for that? HELL NO. Why? Because in EVERY OTHER SITUATION women are FAR more likely to divorce men than vice versa. I can't agree, I think that's a terrible thing to say. We're slipping into a common trap here which is to treat individuals as if they'd exhibited the behaviour of the majority. Women in general might initiate more divorces for s… | /r/MensRights | 29/09/23 10:04 AM |
| 5 | Response to an argument against misandryGood grief, how obvious does it have to be! A little bit of hate online is trivial. The huge suicide rate isn't. Access to education isn't. The vast disparity in imprisonment rates isn't. The offset in lifespan isn't. Need I go on? | /r/MensRights | 28/09/23 08:00 AM |
| 1 | Have you noticed men seem to be the one group who liberals don’t mind discriminating against, and actively encourage it?It’s really irritating. No, it isn't. It's just... not an insult. Calling me gay is no more or less accurate, and no more or less relevant, than calling me short, which would also be inaccurate and irrelevant. It's not the case, but it doesn't matter either way. So the proper response is "well, I'm not, but what does that have to do with the price of bread?" I don't see those insults as being that widely used, anyway. Stay away from the parts of social media inhabited by teenaged girls. | /r/MensRights | 28/09/23 07:38 AM |
| 2 | Out of curiosity…Much appreciated. If you want to read about a particularly good and very recent example of what I'm trying to express, Google up the recent case here in the UK of the right-wing commentator Laurence Fox. In my view he's a particularly unpleasant piece of work who has been dismissed from his job at GB News (a rough British equivalent of Fox News, with all that that implies) after broadcasting a sexualised personal insult aimed an interviewee, Ana Evans, of the left-leaning YouTube channel Politic… | /r/MensRights | 28/09/23 12:25 AM |
| 4 | Out of curiosity…I've tried to make this place a bit less controversial, if it helps. I'm just one voice, but what else can you do. When people start using /r/mensrights as a place to blame women in general for what sounds like a bad experience with a specific woman, or other issues not directly related to the legal and social treatment of the average man, I start to hold my head in my hands, because that doesn't help anyone. This place should not be a place for sexist-adjacent griping. We have bigger issues tha… | /r/MensRights | 27/09/23 10:43 PM |
| 4 | The biggest mistake I see men who get into LTRs and Marriages makeIs this even a men's rights issue? This just sounds like relationship advice. Perfectly decent relationship advice, but nothing more than that. So sure. If you are finding undue pressure from someone with whom you're in a relationship to change your behaviour in ways you'd rather not, that's a signal the relationship may not be working. These things always take compromise, obviously, but this sounds like normal relationship stuff. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/23 10:06 PM |
| 4 | "AI girlfriends are ruining an entire generation of men" - Let's Blame MenYes, it's tricky. If that's true we still wouldn't know whether they're delaying because they're waiting for the financial situation to be better, or for other reasons. I wouldn't leap to blame anyone, anyway. I think people still want to have families. I certainly don't think it's much to do with AI girlfriends, as the clickbait suggests. If AI dropped off the face of the planet tomorrow, lonely people would still be lonely, just without a chat bot to talk to. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/23 08:05 AM |
| 5 | "AI girlfriends are ruining an entire generation of men" - Let's Blame MenSure, that's no surprise, but it's not instinctive to me that would explain that scale of difference. Are we saying it does? | /r/MensRights | 26/09/23 11:56 PM |
| 9 | "AI girlfriends are ruining an entire generation of men" - Let's Blame MenI can only reiterate /u/EduBA's conclusion that the article doesn't actually blame anyone; it's a clickbait headline, although the word "choose" is poorly, er, chosen. My suspicion would be that the plummeting birth rate is probably due to a combination of factors. If the US cost of living situation is anything like it has been here in the UK recently, and more importantly for the last decade or three, then a big factor is that people aren't setting up home and having kids because it's become im… | /r/MensRights | 26/09/23 11:12 PM |
| 3 | The right to walk to my carI think you're outlining exactly the point I'm trying to make. To interpret each and every interaction between any woman and any man as a potential preface to murder is paranoid to the point of complete absurdity. That said, I'm not completely adverse to your point of view - in moderation. I've posted before about the fact that I don't like women I don't know approaching me for a social hug, mainly because I just don't enjoy it, but also because of the potential for being accused of some sort of… | /r/MensRights | 25/09/23 10:17 AM |
| 2 | The right to walk to my carOh, absolutely, though in this particular case I suspect both sides have a point to make. What saddens me is that I get the impression people on both sides are often misinterpreted by people on the other. | /r/MensRights | 24/09/23 11:47 PM |
| 5 | Unpopular Opinion: MRA does not fit the left/right political spectrum... and neither does feminism.I'm not really sure you can succinctly differentiate those things in a way that has any useful meaning. All you'd end up doing is arguing endlessly over semantics and it's not a useful discussion. What's useful is what people do and the positions they push, not how we choose to group them together and describe them. | /r/MensRights | 24/09/23 09:18 PM |
| 6 | Unpopular Opinion: MRA does not fit the left/right political spectrum... and neither does feminism.I've said a million times that I don't like the traditional one-dimensional, left-to-right axis of describing political thinking. Partly that's because it's a ludicrous oversimplification, but specifically because it leads to exactly this problem. Even without considering gender politics, there are examples in history of both the extreme left and the extreme right of traditional political thought creating authoritarian hellholes. I barely have to give the examples they're so obvious. In this ins… | /r/MensRights | 24/09/23 09:16 PM |
| 2 | I'm a woman and I'm against feminism. And I'm so judged because of this. So I just want to say I'm here with youI'm a non-feminist going to a London university doing a social sciences degree which is full of Feminists including the lecturers. Brave. My concern would be that it's going to affect your education. I'm sure we'd all love to hear about the shit they chat, but honestly, it'd probably just get people even more wound up. | /r/MensRights | 24/09/23 06:27 PM |
| 2 | I'm a woman and I'm against feminism. And I'm so judged because of this. So I just want to say I'm here with youThe problem is, if you out and decry feminism in general, you're going to get a negative reaction from an enormous number of people, as you've found. Possibly you can find another way to express it. I'm an egalitarian - I would never refer to myself as either a feminist or a men's rights activist because too much bad has been done under both those headings. If you want a point of differentiation: I'd go post this sort of thing over on /r/feminism, where it would be just as relevant, but I've a s… | /r/MensRights | 24/09/23 05:23 PM |
| 13 | The right to walk to my carTo be completely fair, the modern media - particularly social media - is incredibly good at pushing specific concepts into people's brains. Various algorithms on various sites (including this one) will put things in front of your eyes which it thinks you'll be interested in. That's done to keep you on the site and I don't think it was intended to have the effect it has. The problem is that it creates incredibly effective echo chambers. Let's be crystal clear: we are at risk of exactly this right… | /r/MensRights | 24/09/23 05:11 PM |
| 10 | Any of you turned evil or stopped giving a f*** after society continuously betrayed you?I'll vote that up, /u/WisePlant1164. There are fragments of truth in parts of what /u/walterwallcarpet says, but much of his comment is overwrought. I don't think most of what's being done is being done on purpose nor is it unique to people in relationships. Some of it is being done without due care and attention to the consequences of certain actions. It's very clear that some particularly vocal modern feminist extremists have absolutely fallen into exactly that sort of unpleasantness and take … | /r/MensRights | 24/09/23 04:47 PM |
| 27 | The right to walk to my carWould you say any of that to a black woman who had suffered a similar reaction on the basis of race? Accept that you come across as creepy? Can you hear yourself? | /r/MensRights | 24/09/23 10:25 AM |
| 203 | The right to walk to my carWomen go through so much bullshit And the question is: do they? Is this an example of the bullshit they go through? It amounts to walking, by chance, in the same direction as a man and exchanging a few comments. It's trivial. Clearly it was seized upon by at least one woman as an example of something awful happening when in fact nothing had happened at all. This is why people start to question this stuff. | /r/MensRights | 24/09/23 10:20 AM |
| 3 | "Women die in wars created by men" but sources say otherwise?Even if it were true the answer would be "So? What on earth do you want me to do about it?" I suspect that the answer is that they want me to go and die in a war so they don't have to, but that's another matter. | /r/MensRights | 24/09/23 08:03 AM |
| 1 | Women who hug (again)Having spent time in the US - California, even - and UK, I know what you mean. But yes, she does. So do a lot of people I meet. To an extent it's the industry I'm in (it's not hard to work out: London, California, touchy-feeling luvvies everywhere). | /r/MensRights | 23/09/23 10:58 AM |
| 1 | Women who hug (again)Ah, I see. I'm not sure this is really in the British lexicon, so it might not come off very well. I'm also a bit concerned about getting greasy makeup all over my hand. And that would be touching her. | /r/MensRights | 23/09/23 10:38 AM |
| 1 | Women who hug (again)The what of the face? | /r/MensRights | 23/09/23 08:12 AM |
| 1 | JustPearlythings and other female creators are a net positive to men’s rights as they spread heaps of awareness on issues even if they’re just doing it to ‘grift’. Awareness and knowledge on men’s rights and issues should be spread as far and wide as possible! Thoughts?Couldn't agree more. This is supposed to be about equality, not pushing for a return to some imagined traditionalist golden age which probably never existed and would likely be the ends of invention if it had. It honestly sounds like hell for both parties. Even if you look at it from only the perspective of relationships, the companionship of a smart, educated, accomplished woman is massively more valuable than the adoration of some simpering snowflake in a pinafore. I guess that may not be true… | /r/MensRights | 22/09/23 10:23 AM |
| 13 | Russell Brand: Cancelled everywhere, career ruined... Lizzo: .....not. Hmm, if only there was a possible reason for the hugely different way these two people have been treated...... because he might not be guilty? I mean, I could accuse you of sexual assault right now. Would that make it okay to take your livelihood away? Oh, what's that you say? You didn't do it? Neither did Kevin Spacey. Look. I'm no fan of Russell Brand. He comes off as an absolute shit. If he's found guilty in court, so be it. But he's as entitled to the presumption of innocence as you, me, or anyone else. | /r/MensRights | 22/09/23 07:47 AM |
| 2 | How do you deal with feminist who justify sexism against men because of supposed patriarchy or male privilegeThat's pretty much the short version of what I posted, yup. Enjoy this upvote. | /r/MensRights | 21/09/23 04:04 PM |
| 2 | How do you deal with feminist who justify sexism against men because of supposed patriarchy or male privilegePeople for all of history have been giving themselves excuses for exactly this kind of prejudice, on the basis they felt they'd finally figured out who the undeserving people really were. For Hutus, it was Tutsis. For Bosnian Serbs, it was Bosnian Muslims. For the Ottomans, it was Armenians. For Pol Pot, it was pretty much anyone who wasn't an ethnic Khmer. That's four, and I haven't even invoked Godwin's Law yet. None of these people felt they were the bad guys. All of them felt they had a just… | /r/MensRights | 21/09/23 03:55 PM |
| 1 | Women who hug (again)I've done the handshake thing in the past. It works sometimes. About half the time they step past it. | /r/MensRights | 21/09/23 03:42 PM |
| 1 | Women who hug (again)Depends what it says, really! | /r/MensRights | 21/09/23 03:40 PM |
| 3 | Women who hug (again)I'd have refused a hug from Kesha, whoeverthefuck Kesha is. I'm a middle-aged non-American. I didn't even recognise a photo when I looked her up. | /r/MensRights | 21/09/23 07:31 AM |
| 2 | Who actually benefits from VAWG?In my view this whole debate jumped an entire school of sharks at the moment the government started considering all domestic violence to be "violence against women and girls," which as u/TheTinMenBlog correctly puts it, is utterly bizarre. In some ways, it's almost creative genius: somehow it's a document which makes it clear that violence against men is, in fact, actually, violence against women, while simultaneously talking up the need to recognise that violence against men is violence against… | /r/MensRights | 21/09/23 07:28 AM |
| 3 | Women who hug (again)Yes, although my now sixteen-year, live-in relationship says otherwise :) | /r/MensRights | 21/09/23 07:23 AM |
| 10 | Women who hug (again)I don't hate the woman I refer to in this instance. I think she's a bit of an idiot, but hate is a strong term. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/23 03:39 PM |
| 10 | Women who hug (again)Aw, boo, I'd love to have known what was said! | /r/MensRights | 20/09/23 02:22 PM |
| 47 | Women who hug (again)Well, precisely. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/23 02:21 PM |
| 19 | Women who hug (again)Well, that's sort of the thing. I'm concerned about meeting a crazy woman for exactly the same reason they're concerned about meeting a crazy man. The difference is, nobody's downplaying their concerns, whereas you... | /r/MensRights | 20/09/23 02:20 PM |
| 54 | Women who hug (again)My thoughts precisely. I mean, she was pretty much reading directly from the Harvey Weinstein playbook. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/23 10:10 AM |
| 1 | Why can't people discuss men's issues without it devolving into whataboutism?I call this "statistics bingo" and regardless what language is used, it's common in all branches of politics. I find the best approach is to simply state one's position - generally one of strict equality, I'd expect - and deal with the examples anyone brings up. The problem is that a lot of the more unpleasant, hardline feminists are experts at the straw man and will spend lots of time telling you what you believe then attacking you for it. There's really not much that can be done about that and… | /r/MensRights | 20/09/23 08:41 AM |
| 21 | I think the 2% false accusation statistic myth need to talked about moreI don't think anyone has any idea what the false accusation rate is. Any report of sexual assault that doesn't result in conviction is either a false accusation or a genuine claim for which there wasn't enough evidence to convict. There's no way to tell the two apart and as such we have no idea what the rates are for either false accusation or reports that go nowhere, and nobody should try to use either statistic. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/23 08:14 AM |
| 0 | Does patriarchy actually existLike all this stuff, it probably does at certain times for certain people in certain situations. It only takes one crap situation, one unpleasant encounter, one memorable incident to radicalise some people. People take advantage of the situation they're in and both men and women do that. The difference in my experience is that men taking advantage of their situation is seen as bad, whereas women taking advantage of their situation is seen as good, even though both are about as close to objective… | /r/MensRights | 20/09/23 07:23 AM |
| 2 | Why is loss of libido a bad thing? Is it not freedom?I've never had a particularly high sex drive and I make no apology for it. I'm unattractive, but I think that's largely unrelated (I'm not overweight, I'm a tall, skinny streak of shit at the best of times). My long-term partner (who is female and was born that way) has always wanted it way more than I do. I've never had any sort of hormone assessment done, but I wouldn't be surprised to find it was lower than average in me. It is what it is. Last thing I want is the distraction. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/23 07:16 AM |
| 9 | Should we be defending Russell Brand or chastising him?Or... the third option. Which is reserving judgment on his private behaviour until anyone has the faintest idea what's gone on. Personally I find him entirely abrasive and offputting based on the work he's put out and the public persona he maintains, but that's nothing to do with it. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/23 11:33 PM |
| 3 | Can you think of something positive about feminists or feminism?The problem is, you're asking people to come up with generalisations about a very diverse group of people, and a group which is very difficult to define. A lot of people who call themselves feminists do so without doing very much hard thinking about it, and while being unaware of some of the worst excesses of the movement, which are not widely reported. Some of those people are reasonable; many aren't. Generalisations about feminism (or many other controversial political movements) will just cre… | /r/MensRights | 18/09/23 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Is there any credible evidence to support the Feminist Fundamentalist notion that men are more "likely" to abandon their spouse in case of an illness?Well, no, I wouldn't necessarily say that either. You know. Moderation. Nuance. I think one of the references given was the Telegraph, which is not something I'd usually choose to pay cash money for, but it at least exists within the realm of right-of-centre politics that's at least vaguely in the realms of acceptable sanity. | /r/MensRights | 15/09/23 06:45 AM |
| 3 | How to quantify male and female privilege?You can't. The problem with this stuff is that all of the controversy around it it isn't really so much about how things are, it's about how people feel they are (and yes, both men and women do this). Because different people will have different reactions to different situations depending on their life experience, you can't really express it very objectively. This is actually one of the most important principles undermining identity politics as a concept: perspectives on life vary at least as mu… | /r/MensRights | 13/09/23 10:08 PM |
| 22 | Woman here! How can I help more men have their voices heard?It's not really about any specific issue. For instance, u/Earth-lover93 isn't wrong about the horrifying male suicide rate, but that's not likely something that u/spicyputa can personally do much about. We can't make that her problem, any more than the behaviour of some specific unpleasant guy is every man's problem. Nor does anyone have to go around telling anyone else they're appreciated. I would hope most people in a loving relationship would do that as a matter of course. Really it's about p… | /r/MensRights | 13/09/23 09:05 PM |
| 2 | Is there any credible evidence to support the Feminist Fundamentalist notion that men are more "likely" to abandon their spouse in case of an illness?There are various links in that article. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/23 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe there is one set of traits that makes women objectively attractive?I hate to stuck-record here, but is this even on-topic? Or in particularly good taste? | /r/MensRights | 13/09/23 05:33 PM |
| 9 | Is there any credible evidence to support the Feminist Fundamentalist notion that men are more "likely" to abandon their spouse in case of an illness?There are better links than that. That's Deseret News, a firmly right-leaning mouthpiece. The retraction of that study was reported elsewhere by less partisan editors which is a much more convincing rebuttal, regardless what you or I happen to think about Deseret. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/23 05:06 PM |
| 6 | Is there any credible evidence to support the Feminist Fundamentalist notion that men are more "likely" to abandon their spouse in case of an illness?I've mentioned this before, but someone I work with spent two years trying to make time for work around looking after his wife as she died of cancer. When she finally did go, which happened as he watched, he spent months sitting in their house in a storm of grief, trying to get his head together, and trying to figure out when it was OK to start getting rid of her stuff. At some point, like a lot of research, you have to ask what behaviour this data would or should provoke in anyone even if it's … | /r/MensRights | 13/09/23 05:01 PM |
| 3 | Just out of curiosity as MRAs what companies should we be actively boycotting and never buy from or use their services again?Discriminatory DEI policies are so common now that you'd be boycotting probably most large organisations which exist. I don't think it's practical. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/23 02:29 PM |
| 1 | Men, does religion help or hurt men’s rights? Or is atheism/agnosticism more freeing? (I’m hoping for a diverse range of opinions)The thing is, ultimately, anyone who isn't religious is entirely free to pursue the worthwhile things that many religions propose - generosity, kindness, sobriety - without being beholden to the less wonderful things. I'd be the first to point out that the reason that religion is a bad idea is not because it's unpleasant. All kinds of things are unpleasant realities. Religion certainly is unpleasant, but that's not the reason it's... well... bullshit. But the point is, you don't have to believe … | /r/MensRights | 13/09/23 12:23 PM |
| 0 | The Mind of a LeftistWell, I think that's fine, but if it's about what we might call the new left and its amateur proto-fascism, then people need to be careful to limit the scope of their criticism to that. As I've said elsewhere on this thread, the last thing we need is more tribalism. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/23 08:29 AM |
| 1 | “Men Deserve To Be Lonely!” Responding To Backlash Over ‘The Male Loneliness Epidemic’ (this is just gross and sad)Well, you're certainly not speaking for everyone, and it isn't your place to presume to do so. In any case, that's exactly the sort of tribalism we should be opposing, not indulging in ourselves. The idea that a group of people have to agree on everything in order to work together on anything is a large part of the problem with identity politics in general. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/23 08:28 AM |
| 5 | The Mind of a LeftistI agree with most of what's said here with regard to identity politics making victims out of people. Still, there's a we should be cautious about applying oversimplified labels. When people start capitalising words like "leftist" I worry that it's being used divisively and improperly. I don't normally use the traditional left-to-right description of politics specifically because it is an oversimplification, and that's never been more true here. I'm not here to defend any particular position, but… | /r/MensRights | 12/09/23 09:52 PM |
| 18 | “Men Deserve To Be Lonely!” Responding To Backlash Over ‘The Male Loneliness Epidemic’ (this is just gross and sad)Speak for yourself. I don't think the tendency to divide all of political thought into a single-dimensional, left-to-right axis is very helpful as it represents a terrible oversimplification. Still, if that's the way you want to look at things, I think that once an issue gets as extreme and as awful as the mistreatment of men by women in the modern first world, then it starts to transcend traditional political thought entirely. In short, men's rights, or anyone's rights, are really not a feature… | /r/MensRights | 12/09/23 03:52 PM |
| 3 | Fellas do you guys think there's some truth to this comment?Oh. Right. Old news, I thought. Though I don't think it's still so true as people age. If all the pretty young women have married all the handsome young men before they're thirty, then there will be a lot of middle aged, lonely women, who will settle. Which is what we see, I think. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/23 04:40 PM |
| 2 | How to debunk the unsubstantiated and biased feminist assertion that the overwhelming majority of men engage in "victim blaming" against female rape survivors?This is so ludicrous that it needs nothing more than a straightforward denial. Nobody is blaming anyone for being the victim of crime - any crime - and it's absurd to say so. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/23 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Feminists are cowards who run and hide from men's rights.They very often are, but I'm not sure what the hell we can do about it in a situation where anyone making statements in support of traditional victim groups - whether or not accurate - will be believed out of fear. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/23 01:28 PM |
| 5 | Fellas do you guys think there's some truth to this comment?I can't say it's that obvious to me what's even being said here. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/23 01:27 PM |
| 26 | I coach a girls and boys basketball team, this year something odd happenedI coach... girls Brave. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/23 10:44 AM |
| 1 | If men really are the priviledged sex, please give me some examples..Well, I guess you could start with not having to put up with menstruation and go from there. This shouldn't really be about the fact that there are no benefits to being born with XX or XY chromosomes. Men and women are - in ways which are both trivial and meaningful- not identical, and there are pluses and minuses on both sides. What matters is not pretending that we're identical - we're not - or that there are, or should be, any overall winners, but but ensuring that people are treated as fairl… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/23 10:17 AM |
| 3 | Question about the movementI don't think anyone who posts here is required to claim anyone or anything. One of the problems with modern politics is the idea that groups of people should agree on everything, or else they can't be expected to collaborate on anything. That sort of thinking is a large part of the reason there's ever been a problem between men and women, the left and the right of politics, people who are white and people who aren't... Tribalism is bad. Very, very very bad. | /r/MensRights | 01/09/23 08:04 PM |
| 1 | What right(s) men have that women doesn't have (in the west)?Ultimately it can become an argument for whatever that particular person wants and doesn't have, if they can come up with a reason connecting it to gender. This is one of the biggest sins of identity politics: it's attractive to people because it gives them a ready justification for all of the things they don't like about their lives. Sometimes that justification will be completely valid. Often it will be an excuse. Still, telling people that the nothing's their fault is a very seductive bit of … | /r/MensRights | 01/09/23 01:31 AM |
| 13 | Double Standards Between the Sheets: The Orgasm GapI endure a lot of criticism from both men and from because when this comes up in conversation - as it doesn't much, obviously - I will be completely honest about the fact that I really just don't care about sex very much. I'm a guy and I have a low sex drive; society seems to want me to apologise for that, not that I'm particularly inclined to. In the end, I'm a guy in a long-term relationship and she wants it way more than I do. I'm happy to oblige but 75% of the time it's going to be on her to… | /r/MensRights | 28/08/23 11:06 AM |
| 3 | Double Standards Between the Sheets: The Orgasm GapNot in normal, healthy, communicative relationships, no. When it's youngsters who are inexperienced and embarrassed to discuss it, things may be trickier. When one or both of them have been brought up in hyper-conservative families, that doesn't help either. The inability to consider sex a normal, healthy part of the human experience, whether you've done it much or not, tends to worsen these issues because it makes people unwilling to discuss things. In the western world, the American religious … | /r/MensRights | 28/08/23 11:01 AM |
| 1 | Would you continue to date a women who proclaimed herself as a feminist?A lot of people, particularly women, will describe themselves as feminists without really having given it much thought, and the word "feminist" has no universally-agreed meaning (no matter how much anyone claims it does). As such I wouldn't necessarily reject anyone who self-identified with the term as either a romantic partner or just a friend, but it would make me cautious. It's not something I would normally expect to come up in conversation, especially early in a new acquaintance, and I'd be… | /r/MensRights | 28/08/23 10:33 AM |
| 3 | why is it misogynistic to protect young men against brainwashing?Dishonesty, that's why. If everyone's being upfront about everything, all's fair. Of course, the reality is, people aren't. | /r/MensRights | 19/08/23 04:54 PM |
| -1 | why is it misogynistic to protect young men against brainwashing?I don't know about shameful, particularly. So long as it's all consensual and people are smart about taking precautions, it's all just good fun. I guess the problem really is that we're concerned that people won't be particularly smart about it, especially when they're young. | /r/MensRights | 19/08/23 11:01 AM |
| 1 | Anyone else uncomfortable working around young women now?by who? Who is it committing the violence against men? Other men, mostly. On a similar tack, who's responsible for most of the female genital mutilation that happens in the world? Women. Look, I regret having to say that, because this is not a competition, but this is a point worth making well. You do not save anyone from anything by trying to score points from me or from men in general. Again, this is not a competition. I would presume it's not your position that the epidemic of violence agains… | /r/MensRights | 18/08/23 06:03 PM |
| 1 | Anyone else uncomfortable working around young women now?I sympathise with the situation; as a kid of that age I'd have gone to my parents with it. In extremis, you take something like that to the police. You're describing an assault, probably a sexual assault, against a minor, by someone in a position of authority. Nobody's pretending that's OK. So, not to put you on the spot, why didn't you do something about it? I have absolutely had discussions with women about this - often people around my age, mid-forties, as well as my parents' generation (seve… | /r/MensRights | 18/08/23 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Anyone else uncomfortable working around young women now?Well, fine, but let's do our best to differentiate the two. | /r/MensRights | 18/08/23 09:41 AM |
| 2 | Anyone else uncomfortable working around young women now?What you describe is completely appalling, obviously, but in the end I wasn't there, and I can't do anything about it. I've never seen anything a tenth that bad happen, I would never do anything like that, and I wouldn't associate with anyone who did. You have to understand that this is not a problem of men, this is a problem of complete nutcases. Those exist everywhere. We're concerned about insane women for exactly the same reason you're concerned about insane men. The difference is that compl… | /r/MensRights | 18/08/23 08:39 AM |
| 1 | Hotel accuse man checking in with his daughter of being a paedophileI'm not trying to prove anything, nor have I said anything that even hints at that. The point I consider most important here is that I suspect a woman with a young boy would be likely to face less suspicion than a man with a young girl. I hold that suspicion based on everything I know about the world, the different status of men and women within it, arrest and charging rates for various related crimes, and other factors. It is, always has been, and will remain a suspicion, because there isn't ne… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/23 11:52 PM |
| 1 | Hotel accuse man checking in with his daughter of being a paedophileWell, sure, I'll do my best, but there's not exactly a lot of data either way on the general subject of how likely anyone is to be directly and unequivocally accused of a paedophilic kidnapping by the front desk at a Travelodge. I will go so far as to say that everything else I know about the world tells me that a guy has a lot more to fear, but if you really want to push it, yes, that's difficult to prove. Quite what the average guy is supposed to do about any of this is another question; if th… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/23 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Hotel accuse man checking in with his daughter of being a paedophileThe line you take indicates very strongly that you have already decided the men are more likely to be accused of child abuse in a budget hotel than women I think that's probably true, but - you don't? | /r/MensRights | 17/08/23 05:47 PM |
| 6 | Found An anti-men article written by a manMisogynists like Andrew Tate hold sway over thousands of men and boys precisely because of the behaviour of people like Humza Yousaf. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/23 05:10 PM |
| 1 | Anyone else uncomfortable working around young women now?Oh, come on. We can't solve these problems by actively pursuing division. That's why we let anyone post here, that's why we have dialogue. Men and women need each other. The only solution to any of this is cooperation. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/23 05:06 PM |
| 1 | Hotel accuse man checking in with his daughter of being a paedophileOh, I'm not going to disagree with most of it. I think almost all corporate training is a sinecure and unlikely to be helpful to anyone at any time, let alone in a tricky situation such as this. As a purely practical matter I would query whether any gentle enquiries were made which could have ID'd the kid and the dad, or whether someone went directly to defcon none. I would also invite you to reflect on whether a similar situation would have arisen with a woman and a young boy, and compare the s… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/23 04:59 PM |
| 3 | Man in jail 17 years for wrongful rape conviction: Police KNEW DNA in saliva was not his 13 YEARS before his release.Yes, the redefinition of "successful" to mean "a conviction" is particularly frightening. A trial is successful if the jury returns a verdict which is legally watertight and on which it is confident, regardless of what that verdict is. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/23 09:06 AM |
| 3 | Man in jail 17 years for wrongful rape conviction: Police KNEW DNA in saliva was not his 13 YEARS before his release.The situation where they start demanding more rape trials, so they start sending stuff to court where they haven't a hope of getting a conviction, was so catastrophically stupid it makes me weep. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/23 09:05 AM |
| -3 | Man in jail 17 years for wrongful rape conviction: Police KNEW DNA in saliva was not his 13 YEARS before his release.Let's be fair; this is manifestly untrue, which is one reason why the vast majority of reported rapes go unpunished. Can't avoid that reality. We could talk endlessly about why that is. Part of it's because some of the things which are reported as rape boil down to a woman having consensual sex with someone then, months later, deciding she doesn't like him any more and wanting revenge for some perceived slight. A much larger part of it is the fact that rape is genuinely very hard to prosecute on… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/23 09:03 AM |
| 43 | Anyone else uncomfortable working around young women now?Somewhat uncomfortable. I'm middle-aged and strange-looking, and I've no illusions that I'm going to be made the subject of an unexpected advance by anyone. I've also been in a very committed long-term relationship for more than a decade, so I'm not interested. My concern is that I occasionally find myself in approximately a boss role. If anyone gets annoyed with me, which obviously one tries to avoid but which is more or less inevitable at some point, then there's a risk of being accused of som… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/23 08:48 AM |
| 7 | MISANDRY: Why Do Women Hate Men?Speak for yourself. I've never thought or behaved that way and nor would I ever. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/23 01:34 AM |
| 10 | MISANDRY: Why Do Women Hate Men?Strikes me as an odd thing to say to one's husband. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/23 01:33 AM |
| 4 | Undercover police squads targeting catcalling men likely to roll out across LondonWell, let's be fair. Catcalling is impolite. People say they don't like it and people shouldn't do it. It reflects far more on the caller than the callee; anyone who does it is a knuckle-dragging low-brow. That said, you can't hold most people - most men - accountable for something they've never done, would never do, don't approve of, and wouldn't associate with anyone who did. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/23 06:45 PM |
| 14 | Undercover police squads targeting catcalling men likely to roll out across LondonIt's not violating. It's a bit rude. It's impolite. That's all. Choosing deliberately overwrought words to describe things doesn't help. It just devalues the term. In the end, like any sort of unwanted verbal interaction, it only has the power you give it, and by using that sort of language you're giving it way more power than it, or the people who do it, deserve. In the end, regardless of how common it is, there's absolutely nothing I can do about it. I would never do it, and I would never asso… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/23 05:30 PM |
| 14 | Hotel accuse man checking in with his daughter of being a paedophileScared of being wrong? You were wrong. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/23 11:55 AM |
| 7 | Undercover police squads targeting catcalling men likely to roll out across LondonThat is a concern, I guess. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/23 11:54 AM |
| 74 | Undercover police squads targeting catcalling men likely to roll out across LondonUm... okay. Given I've been walking around London for the last forty-plus years and I've heard someone catcalled exactly once, I would imagine that's going to turn out to be a fairly cushy assignment. Bad as catcalling is, though, I would gently query whether it's more important than, say, all of the dead men that result from the 10:1 murder ratio of men over women in the UK. I mean, sure. Okay. Maybe it's just me, but while that's the case, I'm not sure I'd necessarily agree with the idea that … | /r/MensRights | 16/08/23 11:41 AM |
| 4 | Mary Daly (and a glaring hypocrisy in her already deeply flawed worldview)One hundred percent of Adolf Hitlers were men, too. What the living shit does that have to do with me? Sorry. Godwin. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/23 11:29 AM |
| -7 | Hotel accuse man checking in with his daughter of being a paedophileThat's fine, I'm just a bit concerned that there's a tendency of social media (and Reddit is social media) to concentrate together all of the bad things that happen in the world, and all of the bad things which have ever happened in the world, and make the situation look far worse than it is. My hope is that this guy would have sued the living shit out of this hotel chain, but I can't find any indication that happened. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/23 10:51 AM |
| 3 | About the ongoing stereotype that ALL men are a risk to women and childrenThe sad reality is that there's not much anyone can do to protect themselves from such a rare event which arises in such a large number of complex ways, and that goes for anyone who's been assaulted either sexually or otherwise, or anyone who's been accused of such an assault. Sometimes it's necessary to accept that the only reasonable response to the world is to take a reasonable degree of caution against reasonably foreseeable circumstances. Almost by definition, the sort of events you're talk… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/23 09:40 AM |
| -15 | Hotel accuse man checking in with his daughter of being a paedophileTwo thoughts. First, terrible as this was, it was five years ago. It's not a new story. Second, they booked a double room, because it's all that was available. That is a bit weird. I wonder if the same thing would have happened if they'd got one with two beds in it. I suspect it probably would have, but honestly, I'm about that guy's age, and I wouldn't want to top-to-tail it with my hypothetical fourteen year old daughter. Presumably they were in a tight spot as regards finding somewhere to sta… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/23 09:15 AM |
| 25 | College textbook issues warning that calling out feminist's sexist and bigoted behaviors' is WRONG because the "patriarchy" "oppresses" them so they have an excuseI agree with the book to an extent. There is no such thing as reverse racism or reverse sexism. There is no reverse bigotry. There is just entirely normal, everyday, honestly pretty boring and standard normal racism, normal sexism, and normal bigotry. I would not patronise women by suggesting they are any less capable of it than anyone else. In a wider sense, honestly, anyone taking Robin DiAngelo seriously is the architect of their own downfall. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/23 09:03 AM |
| 32 | Apparently, borderline sexual harassment = prank if it's done to men?That's not borderline sexual harrassment, that's just quite normal everyday sexual harrassment. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/23 08:34 AM |
| 5 | Does anyone else find the constant misandry humiliating?My position on this is that nobody can make anyone else feel shame unless that person begins to agree that they've done something wrong. Personally, it makes me sad, because it represents such a reversal of the social progress of the twentieth century and creates bad feeling between people who often have no real reason to argue. I'm mostly even too tired of it to be angry, at this point. Most of the unpleasantness you're describing has its most profound effect on younger men who are less establi… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/23 08:00 AM |
| 1 | We need to be more radicalCouldn't agree more. This is crucial. It's not difficult to seem less insane than the crazier fringes of feminist extremism and we must. | /r/MensRights | 15/08/23 06:29 PM |
| 5 | What would Violence Against Men and Boys (VAMB) look like?Possibly. The issue is that people have tried to do it before - even decades ago - and been made the victim of horrible political reprisals. Look up Erin Pizzey in the UK, who opened up a women's shelter - fine - then immediately said "Right, now let's do one for the guys." She held other views which were considered counter to the popular narrative, including that a lot of domestic violence is reciprocal. For this she was made the subject of death threats and defamation campaigns and effectively… | /r/MensRights | 15/08/23 03:44 PM |
| 33 | What would Violence Against Men and Boys (VAMB) look like?It's hard to disagree with any of this. The problem is, none of this is a secret. It's been well known for years - decades, even. The problem isn't that people don't know this stuff. It's that nobody cares. Khan, for instance, knows all this very well. He made the statement about a nonexistent epidemic of violence because, well, that's just what you do. It's just words to say. It's the current realpolitik. You prattle out those lines, and others, because doing so brings you approval. Who cares a… | /r/MensRights | 15/08/23 11:28 AM |
| 2 | The patriarchy is so strong that 5 cops are needed to handle an 18 years old femaleNot quite sure what on earth this has to do with men's rights issues. With respect to the title, one reason there may be five cops there is so that they can witness for each other; the likelihood of a young woman being able to bring some sort of legal action against them is reasonably high. | /r/MensRights | 15/08/23 08:27 AM |
| 1 | With The Anti-Woke Backlash Against Women Escalating, Efforts To Increase Diversity Must AccelerateThere's all kinds of things one could say in response to this, but my take is that even if this is all true - and I suspect it's more or less the exact opposite of true - it's not something one would even be permitted to say the other way around. But to address the elephant in the room, does this seriously propose that men are the creators of the more Machiavellian social interactions? Christ, has the writer met a woman? Or a man? | /r/MensRights | 15/08/23 08:21 AM |
| 2 | 'Study' finds that 'Men's brains are more greedy than women's ' Let me show you how they try to fool people.The argument that I've seen the psychologists, gender studies people, and feminists put forward is that babies are born with identical brains. My understanding was that even in neonates (very, very young kids, days or weeks old) there is already a well detectable difference between the psychology of girls and boys. It's been shown with functional MRI: girls react more to pictures of people, boys react more to pictures of things. I may not be describing the study perfectly, but it was something l… | /r/MensRights | 14/08/23 11:05 PM |
| 3 | Thoughts on the idea that women are excluded from male dominated jobs?As with so much of this stuff, it goes both ways. The key principle here is that not everyone, male or female, is capable of doing every single job in the world, but nobody who can handle any job should be discouraged from doing it. We need everyone operating at peak effectiveness. So, to answer the question: are women excluded from male dominated jobs? Sure. Some people are idiots, and will do that deliberately. Society probably does discourage certain people from doing certain things, and that… | /r/MensRights | 14/08/23 11:00 PM |
| 5 | 'Study' finds that 'Men's brains are more greedy than women's ' Let me show you how they try to fool people.I think you may need to take a bit of a deep breath and calm down a bit. You're not helping anyone - least of all yourself. Still, you can argue the evidence if you like, and if you're able to poke holes in some of the bigger studies, that's absolutely something we can usefully discuss. Perhaps start with Stoet, O'Connor et. al. in BMC psychology - their conclusions weren't that enthusiastic, as I recall, which lends to your position. There are other studies with more differentiated conclusions.… | /r/MensRights | 14/08/23 01:19 AM |
| 6 | 'Study' finds that 'Men's brains are more greedy than women's ' Let me show you how they try to fool people.I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say. /u/Dry_Personality7194 has posted some interesting supplementary info here in this very thread. I'm not sure if a meta-analysis has been done (please let us know if you have seen one). Still, from what I've seen, it's likely that there is at least some on-average difference between the performance of men and women in task-switching, or at the very least their relative tendency to choose work which requires task switching. If it makes you feel any bet… | /r/MensRights | 13/08/23 11:48 PM |
| 12 | Paternity test results: a sobering number.Well, yes, but if they've got a kid, he's stuck with her. If he tries to leave her, short of her literally trying to murder him in front of a dozen disinterested witnesses, he'll lose everything financially. | /r/MensRights | 13/08/23 08:08 PM |
| 6 | 'Study' finds that 'Men's brains are more greedy than women's ' Let me show you how they try to fool people.I wouldn't argue with that. My point, in any case, is to establish that men and women are different in ways which affects both of them positively and negatively, and that's not abnormal, controversial, or wrong. Presumably at least one person disagrees with me as it's been downvoted. I'd be more than happy to discuss the details but it'd be nice to know what that person disagreed with. | /r/MensRights | 13/08/23 08:07 PM |
| 9 | 'Study' finds that 'Men's brains are more greedy than women's ' Let me show you how they try to fool people.As far as I know the assertion that women task-switch more readily than men is not particularly controversial. It's possibly one reason a lot of roles which require a narrow focus on one issue end up being held by men; think of high-level university professors. Conversely, it's been proposed that the (rare) women who train to be fighter pilots tend to do well because it's a role which often requires switching concentration between different issues rapidly in a cycle of attention, something men a… | /r/MensRights | 13/08/23 07:41 PM |
| 88 | Are there any response to this argument? "it's other men"The answer to all of this is as follows: Yes. So? | /r/MensRights | 13/08/23 05:28 PM |
| 46 | Paternity test results: a sobering number.Not a bright move. My sympathy is muted (present, but muted). | /r/MensRights | 13/08/23 01:07 PM |
| 3 | Men And Boys Have Just As Much Right To SafetyIt's endless. Of course men face more, and worse, violence than females when the entire politico-legal system of the country exclusively prioritises the safety of females. Recently, a set of security cameras was installed on a path through a nature reserve where I live. While the installation was going on, a police officer and assistant were giving out leaflets about women's safety and talking to passersby. I asked - knowing what the answer would be - about the purpose of the cameras, and was to… | /r/MensRights | 13/08/23 11:10 AM |
| 77 | Paternity test results: a sobering number.Why are you having kids with someone who was unfaithful to you? | /r/MensRights | 13/08/23 11:01 AM |
| 59 | Paternity test results: a sobering number.I came here to say this. Obviously, massive selection bias going on here, but it's worth bearing in mind that nearly a third of suspicious fathers are... well... right. | /r/MensRights | 13/08/23 11:01 AM |
| 2 | Men And Boys Have Just As Much Right To SafetyNote my reply above. I'm not sure it was not a serious suggestion. I think there's every chance the vicious old baggage was so wound up by the Everard murder she felt she could get away with it. And to be fair she did. | /r/MensRights | 13/08/23 09:44 AM |
| 5 | Men And Boys Have Just As Much Right To SafetyIt was said by Jenny Jones in the house of lords on 10 March 2021. She later tried to claim she'd been trying to draw attention to advice from the police that women shouldn't go out alone in certain circumstances. I'm not sure whether I believe her. I think there's a good chance it was a histrionic tantrum provoked by the emotional impact of the Sarah Everard murder. I think there's every chance she was serious, albeit in the grip of an emotional outburst she couldn't control. But since we can't… | /r/MensRights | 13/08/23 09:40 AM |
| 2 | Gen Z women are painting on ‘unapproachable makeup’ to ‘reject’ men | cosmetics, man, woman | Gen Z women are painting on ‘unapproachable makeup’ to ‘reject’ men | By New York Post | FacebookSure, yeah. Honestly, I've seen people do this here, too. Moderation and nuance are... eh, something we could use more of. | /r/MensRights | 13/08/23 01:53 AM |
| 3 | Gen Z women are painting on ‘unapproachable makeup’ to ‘reject’ men | cosmetics, man, woman | Gen Z women are painting on ‘unapproachable makeup’ to ‘reject’ men | By New York Post | FacebookI get it, although at some level when the consequences are so horrendous (being dragged into an alley and raped or killed, let's say) then it's not necessarily unreasonable to take extra care. We have to be careful with this one, because in the end, it's also pretty unlikely that any given woman will turn out to accuse us of things we haven't done in a fit of pique, but the consequences are so bad, effectively life-ending, that we too exercise an abundance of caution. Both sides are probably gui… | /r/MensRights | 12/08/23 10:58 PM |
| 3 | Gen Z women are painting on ‘unapproachable makeup’ to ‘reject’ men | cosmetics, man, woman | Gen Z women are painting on ‘unapproachable makeup’ to ‘reject’ men | By New York Post | FacebookWhat concerns me about this is the safety of the women concerned. Report mentions that women using this style of makeup feel safer. The problem is, they're not actually any safer, they're just wearing a load of face paint. Also, to be honest, to me this doesn't make them look unapproachable. It makes them look shallow, vain, and insecure. So, they're still likely not to be approached. But not, perhaps, for the reasons they're imagining. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/23 01:38 PM |
| 5 | "women only" scholarshipsI think you're making the same argument I am, and I'm not sure how you're logically reaching different conclusions from the same premise in each case. You need to be very careful about the word "equity" in this context. Like so many terms in the field it's not very well defined, but generally it tends to mean that (for instance) we should expect half-and-half representation of men and women in each field, which is simply not the case, because men and women don't have precisely identical psycholo… | /r/MensRights | 12/08/23 11:46 AM |
| 2 | Hiring issuesI'm concerned about the negative outcomes for both of us, although I'm somewhat more concerned about the wider outcomes for society in general of the politics we're discussing here. This is a microcosm of a much bigger, society-wide movement which inevitably provokes gender segregation without really realising that's what it's doing. It's probably worth being clear, though, that it's not a good idea for you to try to tell me what I think or what I'm worried about. I'll tell you what I think, not… | /r/MensRights | 12/08/23 11:22 AM |
| 5 | "women only" scholarshipsIf someone comes from a disenfranchised community that does not have the same level of access to resources as the average person, I understand how it is a mechanism to encourage and try to level the playing field. There are many factors here - social, economical, psychological etc that contribute to the inequality. The problem even with that approach is you end up taking someone who's the child of two doctors living in the parents' city centre weekend apartment with a fat allowance from mum and … | /r/MensRights | 12/08/23 11:14 AM |
| 2 | Hiring issuesSure, it's a small risk. But would you say the same thing to a woman who's concerned about getting the late-night train home? The risk is low, but the worst case is horrifying. Men are worried about crazy women for the same reason women are worried about crazy men. Let's be clear - this is not about me fearing she's going to be into me, somehow, which is what you seem to be leaning toward. If she turns out to be a highly politicised hardline feminist activist and I as her boss manage to even sli… | /r/MensRights | 12/08/23 10:51 AM |
| 12 | Time for Some Positivity About MenMen are more likely to be nerdy, which in this situation I guess means that they have, on average, a higher tendency than women to concentrate very specifically on one thing to the exclusion of all else. This is why people like high-level university professors in the hard sciences are largely male and are always likely to be. In order to develop advanced technologies, we need people like that with that attitude to what they do. It's not always that easy to talk up stereotypically masculine chara… | /r/MensRights | 12/08/23 09:32 AM |
| 1 | Hiring issuesI think the example I heard was from women operating at high levels in the world of high finance, where they felt (though, as ever, let's be careful about feelings...) that they were being overlooked for promotion in a world where promotion is based on who you're buddies with. Senior men were (understandably) reluctant to engage in the necessary after-work hanging out or closed-door office conversations with women. It's worth being painfully clear that of course we all accept that this stuff is … | /r/MensRights | 12/08/23 09:28 AM |
| 1 | Hiring issuesI guess that's exactly the problem I'm describing here. The vast majority of the time everything would be fine, but right now, in 2023, I cannot realistically spend a hundred hours in a small room with this woman. It almost certainly wouldn't cause a problem. But for much the same reasons women don't like riding home alone on the subway at 3am, I'm just not going to do it. If that's a reasonable fear, so's mine. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/23 09:22 AM |
| 1 | Hiring issuesWhat's my self-description got to do with what I have to worry about!? | /r/MensRights | 12/08/23 09:18 AM |
| 1 | Hiring issuesOP is already, in spirit, breaking equality law. If the applicant had been male they would have been hired. /u/Huffers1010 seems ok with breaking the law in spirit but not in any other way. That's clearly their choice to make. I am emphatically not okay with any aspect of this situation and my solution represents the least bad outcome I can possibly fathom. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/23 09:16 AM |
| 1 | Hiring issuesCouldn't have put it better myself. | /r/MensRights | 11/08/23 10:33 PM |
| 2 | Hiring issuesOf course not, but that's not the problem. I can control my behaviour. I can't control hers. | /r/MensRights | 11/08/23 10:31 PM |
| -2 | Hiring issuesI think I'd still be constructively breaking equality law. And honestly, I don't want to be the guy who's making up reasons not to hire based on gender. That's why I hate this situation so much. This is why the politics here are not a victimless crime. | /r/MensRights | 11/08/23 10:45 AM |
| 0 | Hiring issuesI'd love to. Problem is, we're all freelancers, and it's all just personal email and zoom. | /r/MensRights | 11/08/23 10:31 AM |
| 0 | Hiring issuesBecause then I'd be breaking equality law. | /r/MensRights | 11/08/23 10:27 AM |
| 2 | Vice isn't niceTo be fair, I've seen insane stuff posted here that I didn't agree with. People who post insane stuff need to understand that they give articles like this credibility. | /r/MensRights | 11/08/23 10:09 AM |
| 2 | Women at my university used to “womansplain” male sexuality to male students. They would tell us guys what we like and what we want but it was often incorrect.No person should ever presume to tell another what their feelings are on a subject. That said both of the long term relationships I've had (and greatly valued) were based on women approaching me. What the hell was I supposed to do - reject them? We've been together more than a decade! | /r/MensRights | 11/08/23 10:06 AM |
| 2 | Shamed because I picked up a 6 year old girl.Other people's kids? Sheesh, wouldn't have gone anywhere near. This sticks in my mind, for some reason, but about a year ago I was asked for the time by a couple of mid-teenaged schoolgirls. I blanked them, kept my head down and kept walking. Brrr. You are a man, and it is societally acceptable that all men are viewed as sexual predators in 2023. As such you do not get to interact with children very much. As we've seen in this thread, even interacting with your own is now viewed with suspicion, … | /r/MensRights | 11/08/23 09:13 AM |
| 1 | Has anyone married in the recent 5 years with the marriage turning put OK?Not married, but met in 2007 and still cohabiting... No kids, though, which I think helps. I consider myself spectacularly lucky to have met someone who wasn't into kids when I wasn't either. We have both laughed over the idea that we have jobs that keep us apart for anything up to a couple of weeks at a time and that absence really does make the heart grow fonder. I'm a tall, skinny, ugly, not particularly personable human being who watches sci-fi movies and never wanted kids, and I make a lot … | /r/MensRights | 11/08/23 09:06 AM |
| 1 | The Guardian Gas LightingI'll upvote that. Both sides need to stop doing... that. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/23 04:25 PM |
| 3 | Transgender man - do I fit in here?I think everyone, without exception, is welcome here, so long as they're willing to discuss things in good faith. Aren't there a few regular posters who are female? We've seen too much of /r/feminism to fall into the same echo chamber they have. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/23 04:19 PM |
| 3 | Discrimination of men for the greater goodAgreed. This is not unusual in the history of human beings. It's exactly the same psychology which causes most prejudice. The lack of self awareness would be comical if it weren't so bigoted. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/23 09:11 AM |
| 5 | Why is society surprised or being doomers about AI girlfriends but refuse to help men?Imagine being a real-life woman and realising you're not enough to out compete AI or digital porn. Ouch. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/23 09:28 AM |
| 6 | Men work fatalitiesMy union became a nexus of anti-man bias. I left. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/23 09:01 AM |
| 2 | Can someone help me understand as a black conservative why do white female liberals hate white men so much ?Very little, that's part of the irony of it. A good friend of mine is a white Zimbabwean, which in the modern politics makes her the very spawn of satan in terms of colonialist expansionism (and sure, there's some grim history there, though possibly the grimmest part of it was after the white people left). The sad reality is that the colonisation of Zimbabwe happened a mere twenty years after what Wikipedia calls a "violent power struggle" between the native people of the area, so it wasn't as i… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/23 08:12 AM |
| 2 | Can someone help me understand as a black conservative why do white female liberals hate white men so much ?I think they've just been taught to. A lot of younger women - mid-twenties and younger, let's guess - have grown up in a world which constantly reinforced in them the idea that they were being horribly disadvantaged. To be as nice as possible, that idea is, at the very least, not nearly as true as it's often made out to be, but there's an extent to which it's not really their fault. Now, you could argue that people should be smarter than that, and they should, but they've grown up in this religi… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/23 08:07 AM |
| 1 | Women and minorities have bills to payNo, it's pushing 15% now, or even a bit more, depending how you count it. It also depends where you live. In London it's a lot more cosmopolitan than north Wales, say. UK non-white population 2011 heat map. I suspect you're over-interpreting it a bit, anyway. She's waving the virtue flag as hard as she can, but I'm not sure there's enough of a thought process behind it to engage in some sort of pro-girl subterfuge. She's talking up women and minorities because that's just what you do these days … | /r/MensRights | 02/08/23 07:25 AM |
| 1 | Women and minorities have bills to paySorry, but that's an incredibly insulting and wildly assumptive thing to say. Try again. Depends on your definition of "crazier fringes," I guess, and I'm not really inclined to argue. What's really important is that there are extremists on both sides of this debate and none of them help anyone. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/23 11:21 PM |
| 1 | So where exactly are those male privileges I have been promised?I don't doubt there have been people who've felt that way, although I think that is a ludicrously extreme overreaction. I don't feel like I'm really capable of being the sort of guy a lot of society expects me to be, but my reaction to that is to erect a middle finger and do my own thing and ignore what a lot of society thinks. Obviously, that's not an excuse for bad behaviour but it's also pretty psychologically healthy. This is social media. Absolutely do not let it get under your skin. Anyway… | /r/MensRights | 01/08/23 11:19 PM |
| 1 | So where exactly are those male privileges I have been promised?The amount of male to female gender affirming surgery vastly outnumbers the amount of female to male surgeries because women are taught that they can be whatever way they want and still be women. This is a bit more complicated. As far as I know there are no absolute answers on this, but the scientific understanding of the biology is such that we would normally expect to see more trans women than trans men. So, this may be true in part, but as with so much of what you say, it's a bit more complic… | /r/MensRights | 01/08/23 11:03 AM |
| 10 | How do I debate to a brick wall?My position on this is that it's absolutely worth extending the olive branch on every possible occasion. If we do that, we've done what we can. When the shrieking starts, as it will in a lot of cases, well, you are under no obligation to talk to anyone. Other posters in this thread are absolutely right in that the sort of people you'll meet online are unlikely to be particularly receptive. It's worth being aware they are not representative of the average human being, and probably if you met thes… | /r/MensRights | 31/07/23 09:42 AM |
| 50 | We're the Gen Z women doing 'lazy girl jobs': The TikTok influencers sharing their tips on earning 'decent pay' from doing the bare minimum while WFH OP: Very few women work on building sites or as refuse collectors!I meet quite a few PR people in the course of the work I'm doing right now. They're almost exclusively very middle-class young women who are clearly on a very solid income, often more than the engineers who built the devices they're selling. All they actually seem to do is sit around in offices wearing high heels, organise launch parties and write very poor-quality press releases which do nothing but reveal how little they actually understand the product. I may not agree with any particular pers… | /r/MensRights | 30/07/23 11:02 AM |
| 1 | I’m a masculine man, and this current society has made me feel ashamed and guilty about it.There's a lot of ways to bring women true equality without attacking men - and vice versa, too. The problem is that a minority of really loud, unpleasant people, mainly women, are abusing the banner of equality to attack people they don't like. Personally I think that's a problem for everyone and we should really have no argument in opposing it. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/23 08:36 AM |
| 4 | I see all these “he won’t marry me” postsI've been with the same person since the late 2000s and we're very happy. No interest from either of us in marriage. If we had kids we'd do some sort of paperwork to look after their interests, but there's nothing particularly special about marriage. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/23 08:13 AM |
| 4 | Why does society do nothing about toxic and hateful women?I'm running out of ways to express this, really. The level of hypocrisy and double standards is absolutely mind-blowing. The hard core of modern feminism makes ludicrous generalisations, baseless accusations, tries to tell people what they think, and makes absolutely horrendous statements about killing and violence more or less as a matter of course, and society tolerates it. I hope in a few decades time this will be looked back on in the proper light, because right now it beggars belief that it… | /r/MensRights | 29/07/23 11:18 PM |
| 4 | I’m a masculine man, and this current society has made me feel ashamed and guilty about it.I'm a not particularly masculine man, and society has always done its best to make me feel ashamed about it too. Don't worry, there is no way to win this game. The only winning move is not to play. Instead, here's what you do: You do whatever the hell you want, so long as it isn't causing problems to other people. If other people don't like it, they can fuck off. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/23 07:01 PM |
| 40 | Man wrongly jailed for rape he didn't commit faces paying prisonThe background to this is hideous, but it's worth being clear: anyone who's been in prison and is then cleared might end up paying for the accommodation. That part of it is not specifically a gender issue (clearly it's bollocks, and there are all sorts of stats about women and prison to throw around, but that is not a gendered rule.) Obviously the wider issue is a cautionary tale to us all: he mainly ended up in prison because he agreed voluntarily to take part in an identity parade. Presumably … | /r/MensRights | 29/07/23 04:11 PM |
| 10 | The Hollywood writers strike is going on and all i can think is how do people with a social media like this even got hired in the first placeChrist, did someone touch a nerve? | /r/MensRights | 29/07/23 12:07 PM |
| -1 | My problem with some of this subreditI've spent quite a bit of time on /r/mensrights trying to inject a degree of moderation into the debate and I've been yelled at for so doing, so I have something in common with your general approach here. Particularly, the competition to see who's got it worse simply means people endlessly playing statistics bingo in order to somehow identify some sort of anti-winner of unpleasantness and suffering. What causes most of the bad feeling, and the reason you're getting a bit of kickback, is typified… | /r/MensRights | 29/07/23 10:23 AM |
| 1 | Do we downplay misandry?I'm not blind to that, I'm just a bit concerned that people might respond to /u/TheTinMenBlog by complaining that the examples are a little dated. | /r/MensRights | 28/07/23 03:22 PM |
| 30 | Do we downplay misandry?So what? Most female genital mutilation is done by women to (by definition) women. It doesn't make it OK. | /r/MensRights | 28/07/23 11:15 AM |
| 7 | Do we downplay misandry?The fact that you're using decades-old statistics to support what you're saying is completely valid, of course, but I think it could have been even more persuasive by using more up-to-date examples and things which continue on a daily basis. We all know the numbers: society's attitude kills men by downplaying or ignoring violence against them in a large number of ways. I might have used those first, much as they're less specific. You do use the suicide statistics, fine. Other than that minor qui… | /r/MensRights | 28/07/23 11:14 AM |
| 1 | UK: Backlash builds against Sadiq Khan's campaign encouraging men to call out misogyny on public transport by saying 'mate' - as TfL's own consultant brands it 'offensive in its naivety'. OP: More male hate from the UK.Couldn't agree more. The problem with a lot of this stuff is that it's preaching to the thoroughly converted. I wouldn't associate with anyone who made that sort of joke and I have never seen anyone make that sort of joke - in my entire forty-plus years on the planet. This is certainly not as big a deal as people seem to want to think it is. And yes, it is offensively naive. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/23 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Can anyone explain why I am seeing some saying "oh they are not a "real" feminist"?No true Scotsman fallacy. Very easy. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/23 09:30 AM |
| 1 | UK: Backlash builds against Sadiq Khan's campaign encouraging men to call out misogyny on public transport by saying 'mate' - as TfL's own consultant brands it 'offensive in its naivety'. OP: More male hate from the UK.As ever the main problem here is that you'd have to actually see some misogyny on public transport, which in forty-four years on this planet I never once have. The unspoken assumption that this stuff is in any sense commonplace makes the whole thing look completely insane. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/23 09:17 AM |
| 1 | I don't do casual sex, and I feel like less of a man for it.I don't do that either. To be completely fair, I've been in a very conventional, very stable heterosexual relationship for more than a decade (and yes, at the suggestion of my partner, I will point out that I have never even thought about been anything other than completely faithful to her). However, even during the periods I've been single, I have never felt drawn to sleep around. The chance would've been a fine thing, anyway - I'm not good looking, rich or particularly personable, and it's lon… | /r/MensRights | 26/07/23 08:22 AM |
| 1 | I seriously don't feel safe in the gym anymore.I don't entirely agree. If you caught her gaze entirely by chance, her attire is irrelevant. Someone (of either sex) who dresses provocatively can expect to be looked at. Anyone is allowed to look at anyone else for any reason at any time. Once it goes past a look - staring for long periods of time, for instance, or certainly verbal commentary - then you become the bad guy, and her attire does not justify it. Your accidental glance is fine. You seem to be trying to justify something you don't re… | /r/MensRights | 13/07/23 05:31 PM |
| 3 | Opinions (Washington Post) "Why can’t we hate men?" - By Suzanna Danuta WaltersI always feel like getting a teddy bear and saying "show me on Mister Fluffles where the nasty man touched you." | /r/MensRights | 12/07/23 04:21 PM |
| 15 | Abused Men Get No HelpWhat does your lawyer say? Because you do have a lawyer, right? You didn't just rock up to a real live court with a bunch of evidence and expect to win on the facts. Did you? | /r/MensRights | 12/07/23 04:14 PM |
| 1 | Actual Criteria ExposedI think the reason we're differing on this is that I simply don't accept the term "emotional labor" as reasonable in this context. There are lots of things that anyone in a relationship does to further that relationship, but you are entirely mischaracterising what is being done and why. Your terminology implies a transactional motivation which cannot exist unless someone is keeping score. Yes, absolutely, problems often arise when people suddenly do start keeping score. Overall, though, your ent… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/23 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Actual Criteria ExposedI'm honestly trying to introspect what that would even mean. For instance, she's working away right now, and we have phone calls at least every other evening. I guess I could refuse to talk to her, but I don't know: this is the woman I love, and I haven't seen her in a couple of weeks, and I don't really want to do that. Everything I know about the situation tells me that she's as anxious to talk to me as I am to talk to her. What exactly should I be denying her? We're different people and we ha… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/23 01:52 PM |
| 8 | Opinions (Washington Post) "Why can’t we hate men?" - By Suzanna Danuta WaltersThis article has been talked about on /r/mensrights at least once before, though I guess it bears repeating. OK, fine, we're used to this: the author has written editorial filled with outspoken, direct, unequivocal, out-and-proud sexist bigotry and got it published, and is still complaining she's not capable of "stand[ing] up without being beaten down." The lack of self-awareness gives me a headache, but mainly, it just comes off as dim-witted whining. The fact that she could write this and get … | /r/MensRights | 12/07/23 10:32 AM |
| 10 | Woman calls a guy misogynist for calling his wife a devoted wife and mother. Does that word even mean anything anymore?I was once directly called misogynistic, right to my face, for pointing out that men and women do not have identical psychology. I would never use that fact to disadvantage anyone, and nor should anyone else. Still, even if you don't agree that's a fact, and a fact which doesn't necessarily benefit or disadvantage anyone, man or woman, any anti-man position held by modern hard-line feminism intrinsically relies on the idea that men and women differ, invariably on the basis that women are superio… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/23 06:26 AM |
| 1 | "Are Men Obsolete" by Hanna RosinEven if you agree with the thesis, the question is "what if they are?" What would this woman suggest is the proper response to male obsolescence? | /r/MensRights | 11/07/23 09:34 AM |
| 2 | Men are apparently privileged in healthcare and general mental health? Where are the facts?If medical misogyny is a a legitimate claim, it doesn't seem to be working very well, considering men's health is generally considerably worse than women's, including both mental and physical health, leading to shorter life spans. As an aside: note that women still generally retire earlier, despite living longer. In the UK, changes since the mid-90s have sought to equalise the retirement ages for men and women. There's actually an argument women should retire later, given they live longer, thoug… | /r/MensRights | 11/07/23 01:04 AM |
| 5 | why are men blamed for everything like what the fuck happened to the other 60 somthing gendersBut they use it this way: ...yerrrrs, I got that impression. | /r/MensRights | 11/07/23 12:47 AM |
| 12 | why are men blamed for everything like what the fuck happened to the other 60 somthing gendersLinked thread includes the word "whataboutism." This is a relatively new term to me, but it seems to be an attempt to pre-emptively deny the existence of any counterexample against the point at issue. I'm not quite sure how desperate someone has to be in order to develop a neologism specifically designed as a blanket denial to the very concept of disagreement, but this is a new low. | /r/MensRights | 10/07/23 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Actual Criteria ExposedWhat, you mean, work-wise or interpersonally? | /r/MensRights | 09/07/23 07:38 PM |
| 3 | Actual Criteria ExposedRelationships don't have to be transactional. I'm in my mid-forties and I've enjoyed two long-term, live-in relationships, one of which ended very amicably (we're still in touch) and one of which continues. I've never felt either of them was transactional. My current partner makes far more money than me and always will (she didn't when we met). Neither of them were marriages and none of us ever wanted kids, which simplifies things. | /r/MensRights | 09/07/23 10:40 AM |
| 1 | 28% of men at 40 have never been married.44 and never married, though I have been in two long term, live-in relationships. No kids and no interest in kids. | /r/MensRights | 09/07/23 10:37 AM |
| 5 | how do ya'll feel about all superheroes being replaced by women?I'm not that into superhero movies so I find it hard to get that personally involved, although I think the big problem is not so much the excessive concentration on female characters, it's just the fact that they're making such terrible movies with them. And some of them aren't that bad. I don't think anyone would have had so much of a problem with Captain Marvel if the actress hadn't been such a piece of poison about it. The movie itself is forgettable but it's not that awful. | /r/MensRights | 09/07/23 10:37 AM |
| 3 | The forceful inclusion of women into Male only clubs or groupsIn the town where I live there are two well-respected selective schools, both segregated by gender - one for girls, one for boys. The boys's school has been taking girls for decades; the girls school has never taken boys. Obviously, it's a hypocritical double standard and is unfair. Both these schools are highly desirable ways to get a very good, government-funded education for your kids and entry is very competitive. Girls are getting preferential access to that, even as the statistics show boy… | /r/MensRights | 09/07/23 10:15 AM |
| 1 | Since when was Women having all the power feminism? I thought feminism was about equality.Precisely. As I said in another comment, the hypocrisy, the double standards, are absolutely mindblowing. I hate to accuse the late Ginsburg of lacking self awareness, but christ on a bike... | /r/MensRights | 02/11/22 09:48 AM |
| 1 | Since when was Women having all the power feminism? I thought feminism was about equality.Nobody's ever raised a question about that Er, isn't that exact question a principal guiding principle of this whole society, and has it not been for decades, hence your ability to leverage your extremely privileged position to lecture us specifically about a claim you propose has never been made precisely as you make it? Honestly, I hate to dump on this woman, but again and again the problem I find with modern feminism is the staggering, brain-melting, mind-blowing hypocrisy. | /r/MensRights | 02/11/22 09:42 AM |
| 7 | I'm sorry, but the idea that men's rights and feminism can "unite" is an absurdity. The solution lies elsewhere.I'm clinging to the word "egalitarian" which should ideally cover all the good things in society. | /r/MensRights | 30/10/22 12:39 PM |
| 1 | PSA: Men-Are-Human Reddit account suspended.Do we know why? | /r/MensRights | 29/10/22 11:14 AM |
| 1 | UK: If you see a man harassing a woman... give him a 'disapproving look': Home Office launches campaign to combat sexual harassment OP: More male hate from the British governmentThe problem with this (or at least the main problem of many, many problems) is simply having the opportunity. In my experience, most people prefer not to air their interpersonal grievances in public. Perhaps because of that, I've never once in my forty-plus-year life actually witnessed a situation which might be relevant to what's being proposed here. As so often, the people behind this seem to be working on the unspoken (and completely unjustified) assumption that we live in a world where haras… | /r/MensRights | 26/10/22 08:08 AM |
| 1 | "Tom Brady And The Selfishness Of Conventional Masculinity" (Warning for Sanity: Buzzfeed)If it helps, fame sometimes has very limited geographical reach. I've never heard of this guy or his wife. | /r/MensRights | 26/10/22 07:51 AM |
| 2 | Question from a woman to MRAsOne of the things I do is hang around here when I get a few minutes and try to calm people down when they get a bit crazy, which doesn't help anyone, on either side of the debate. A lot of the men here are very, very angry. At least some of them will have lost relationships, careers, homes, their life savings, access to their kids, or even their freedom. Sometimes that will have been justified. Sometimes it won't. Either way, calm heads help, and it's worth reminding people that this is Reddit, … | /r/MensRights | 25/10/22 09:02 PM |
| 2 | How do you guys find a wife who’s not always entertaining attention from other men?Depends what you mean by comfort around other guys. My partner of more than fifteen years does a very stereotypically masculine job which constantly surrounds her with men. Obviously, anyone in that position is going to have friends at work. What else would anyone expect? Totally normal. Security comes with time in the relationship. When it's all very new, I get it. But after fifteen years, yes, I feel more secure, so until and unless I walk in on her getting a foot-rub from someone... | /r/MensRights | 25/10/22 06:35 PM |
| 7 | We're collecting some of our favorite due process quotes from judges who have made favorable decisions for accused students. We're putting them on some high-rez images with some extra formatting and effects. Here is a sample of four. Do you like the format? Any suggestions? Thank you.I would point out that the people involved in the Doe v. Brandeis case mentioned by OP were both gay men, so it isn't quite the same sort of political situation we'd usually discuss here, but that doesn't really change much. It still horrifies me that someone in a position of judicial authority actually has to point out that "it is not enough simply to say that... victims of sexual assault have not always achieved justice in the past." This is the sort of behaviour that leads to people interpret… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/22 09:48 AM |
| 3 | Looking for examples of feminist policy going too far (example: suggested male curfew UK)A senior officer in the Royal Air Force recently resigned after being ordered to implement illegal positive discrimination in an attempt to fulfil what were basically impossible diversity quotas. It concerned both race and gender, but it's a concrete example of identity politics gone horribly wrong. | /r/MensRights | 24/10/22 10:13 PM |
| 13 | Wikipedia is funnyI don't know that we've necessarily lost much; most of the good stuff is still there. The issues we're discussing here tend to exist on pages which discuss political issues or controversial people or companies. The piece on barium sulphate is probably fairly safe from attack. Yes, there's a residual problem in that it may be many grey-area articles where it's difficult to tell whether they've been the target of this sort of shenanigans. I find the use of language is fairly identifiable and you c… | /r/MensRights | 23/10/22 12:37 PM |
| 16 | Wikipedia is funnyI was going to say exactly the same thing. | /r/MensRights | 23/10/22 09:06 AM |
| 27 | Wikipedia is funnyI was once asked to be responsible for "curating" the page of a company on Wikipedia. I refused, and not only because it would have been a miserable slog of endlessly arguing with people. | /r/MensRights | 23/10/22 09:06 AM |
| 7 | criminal records don't affect women muchHang on, are we seriously downplaying the affect of a criminal record on women on the assumption they never wanted to work anyway? I have no doubt things are different between the genders but good grief, that's just mad. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/22 02:13 PM |
| 2 | What Are The Odds That These Two Things Are Related?Okay, but what do we mean by "senior officers?" I would assume they're mainly interested in aircrew, which most senior people in the RAF will be because of the (absurd) pseudo-rule that you can't be in charge if you're not ex aircrew. However, many ex-aircrew will be flight lieutenants (and thus junior officers) or squadron leaders (the lowest level of senior officer). I can't imagine they're hiring retired air vice marshals, are they!? | /r/MensRights | 21/10/22 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Satire: Dad Bod Positivity vs Mum Bod Defensiveness?Who? Linky? | /r/MensRights | 21/10/22 01:27 PM |
| 42 | What Are The Odds That These Two Things Are Related?Aaargh, there's so, so much I could say about this, but it would make me way, way too identifiable. In short: the story in both these cases is exactly as bad as you fear it might be. I'm not sure they're necessarily linked, though. The people who are going to China are ex-members of UK forces and almost certainly recruited long before the current insanity. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/22 10:50 AM |
| 1 | Satire: Dad Bod Positivity vs Mum Bod Defensiveness?Skimming the piece again, doesn't that piece also make a repeated implication that black women are more likely to be fat than anyone else? (I believe statistically that's true, at least in the USA, but I wouldn't choose to make this sort of oblique implication about it.) I guess if you really wanted to, you could try to justify it by implying some link between ethnicity, poverty, and diet, but I wouldn't want to be the one trying to make that justification, and medically qualified people have su… | /r/MensRights | 21/10/22 10:48 AM |
| 0 | Satire: Dad Bod Positivity vs Mum Bod Defensiveness?I call shenanigans. I initially assumed the headline was kidding around and the article would be about the hypocrisy inherent in it, but apparently it's serious. Although on even a second's consideration, I doubt it is: this has to be a bait. There's no way anyone on the planet is this lacking in self-awareness. Is this someone filling a website with outrage bait? I fear we are being played like a fiddle, here. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/22 10:27 AM |
| 9 | Most Feminist Anti-Incel Rhetoric is HyporticalI've heard a lot of women claiming they aren't prettying themselves up for men, anyway. They'll claim they're doing it for themselves, in which case fine, but, er, you can't see your own face, most of the time, so I must admit I don't really get it; I suspect this is actually a convenient way of saying "I'm doing it so I can feel self-satisfied about the way other people see me," which is a semantic differentiation at best, but that's up to them, I guess. It's also been suggested that they're do… | /r/MensRights | 21/10/22 09:53 AM |
| 3 | Tell me about a time when dating someone who made more money than you was detrimental to the relationship.When we met, my partner and I made similar amounts of money - above the national average, but not enough to be completely careless with cash. Since then she's moved into a parallel career which makes her several times what she made before. I guess because we were already together it was relatively easy. The result is that we're mortgage-free in our early 40s and probably both quite likely to retire early (although actually neither of us is particularly keen to do that as we have careers we've wo… | /r/MensRights | 21/10/22 08:45 AM |
| 2 | Which woman hasn’t been bombarded by unsolicited help from men? | Rebecca SolnitTry being a guy who occasionally needs to do some needlework, as I am. Walk into a needlework store. Watch the (almost universally female) staff ignore you stone cold, then look surprised when the woman they're serving walks out without you - "what, she isn't your wife?" I guess that's sort of the other end of this. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/22 08:43 AM |
| 0 | Who is responsible for abortions? According to ‘Ejaculate Responsibly’ author Gabrielle Blair, it's men of course. Never mind that men literally have zero say in whether an abortion happens or not."They're like, well the woman just needs to ask the man to wear a condom. Insist he wears a condom. Why? How is that 50-50?" It's not, but what on earth is anyone going to do about it? At least women can tell if a guy is wearing a condom. So she's responsible for her own body and you're asking her to be responsible for the man's body. No. No, I'm not. And I don't think you have any reason to say anyone is doing that. I thought the whole feminist perspective on pregnancy is that it's always, co… | /r/MensRights | 21/10/22 08:37 AM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on Billie Eilish (21) dating Jesse Rutherford (31)? Because most of the comments on Twitter and Reddit have already made him gross, even predator and paedophile.I care about them no more or less than I care about any other person I don't know personally, but I'd have thought it's up to them, isn't it? I know of other relationships with a big age gap, I'm not really sure what the big deal is. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/22 08:31 AM |
| 23 | Female colleague at work told me "Imagine how great it would be if all men stopped existing for like, a month..."For the sake of an interesting thought experiment, I suspect that most responsibly-designed nuclear power plants would probably fail safe, least if they were left in the normal running mode. They are supposed to be reasonably idiot-proof and should down-regulate themselves fairly automatically if there's a serious problem. Even if we imagine a sudden emergency scenario in which all men blink out of existence, there are female nuclear physicists and female reactor techs (not many, but some), and … | /r/MensRights | 19/10/22 01:43 PM |
| 2 | Hilarity of diversity hiringMy opinion precisely. I think that if there is any man posting here who's lost his relationship, his career, his home, his life savings, all experience of his children (let's say that again: lost access to his kids) and potentially even his freedom, very unfairly and simply because he's a man, and then had some very unpleasant hardline feminists take great pleasure in laughing in his face about it, I would forgive that man for being consumed with anger. Not to take things to an extreme, but it's… | /r/MensRights | 19/10/22 01:33 PM |
| 5 | Hilarity of diversity hiringI've tried to behave in much the same way, and I've occasionally been downvoted on r/mensrights for posts which propose a more moderate approach. I don't think extremism does anyone any favours, either way. | /r/MensRights | 19/10/22 11:31 AM |
| 62 | Teachers Are Hard-Wired To Give Girls Better Grades, Study SaysI thought this has been common knowledge for years. | /r/MensRights | 18/10/22 09:54 AM |
| 1 | "Kill All Men" is a female supremacist dog-whistleTo some extent, I'd have thought. I think the bigger issue here is that a large amount of the controversy over this sort of politics (and many sorts, frankly) is about miscommunication, and people looking for ways to demonise the opposition, particularly by misinterpreting what they say. Both sides of many political debates do this, and as such I take the firm position that interpreting things as a dog-whistle is not generally very helpful. | /r/MensRights | 18/10/22 09:54 AM |
| 13 | Falsely accused USMC veteran wins $25,000,000 Title IX lawsuit against Columbia University (Interview)Is there a precis of this somewhere? No offence to anyone, but I don't have three hours to watch this thing. | /r/MensRights | 18/10/22 09:50 AM |
| 5 | It is annoying when feminists say they are not anti-menSome feminists aren't anti-men, if only because the word "feminist" is not a controlled term. Lots of people, particularly but not solely women, will describe themselves as feminists without really thinking about it very hard or properly understanding what that might imply in various situations. They shouldn't do that, of course. It's lazy thinking and betrays a poor awareness of the state of the world, but it's not necessary or useful to alienate those people. It might be reasonable to gently s… | /r/MensRights | 18/10/22 09:42 AM |
| 2 | Men of reddit - Do you find it frustrating that female co-workers can wear a broader selection of clothes compared to men in the work place.Not really, I work in an industry where anyone can wear anything he or she happens to want to wear. On a related note, I did go to a school (many years ago) where girls were required to wear skirts, which I thought was fairly ludicrous. So did they. Especially in December. | /r/MensRights | 17/10/22 09:30 PM |
| 8 | Help I think my mum is a feministnot many men get assaulted/ abused Lots of men get assaulted - many more than women - but nobody cares. If these are the opinions of your mother, consider whether she actually cares for you. | /r/MensRights | 17/10/22 08:03 PM |
| 9 | Men are loosing interest in fatherhood in the United StatesOne of the reasons I assumed I was a confirmed bachelor in my late twenties was that I knew I definitely didn't want kids. Almost all the women I knew (and still know) definitely do want kids. Conversely, it's my observation that most men are at best ambivalent about it and will do it because their female partners want to. I do know a couple of very enthusiastic dads - or let's say I knew them, because the moment they became such enthusiastic fathers, they basically ceased to exist socially. So,… | /r/MensRights | 17/10/22 08:02 PM |
| 2 | "Kill All Men" is a female supremacist dog-whistleMy understanding of "dog-whistle" in that context is a phrase with a widely-known alternative meaning which will be taken as the actual meaning by many of the intended audience, used to say something controversial without having to state it explicitly. "Kill all men" is, well, stating it explicitly. | /r/MensRights | 17/10/22 07:48 PM |
| 6 | Thoughts on this article? Most man not worth the effort?Female version of MGTOW, surely. And we've recently discovered that MGTOW is unacceptable. | /r/MensRights | 17/10/22 07:43 PM |
| 3 | "Kill All Men" is a female supremacist dog-whistleIt's not really a dog whistle, is it. It's a direct statement. But I take your point. | /r/MensRights | 17/10/22 07:32 PM |
| -5 | Not being in a relationship with women now makes you a terrorist.There is some accuracy to at least some of what's said there. Yes, people use online fora (including r/mensrights) to say stupid things about women sometimes. We help ourselves by not doing that and I have tried to call it out where I can. At the same time, though, it's trivial to find people - almost exclusively women - waving "#yesallmen" banners. Like so many positions taken by hardline feminism, this is a term that is taken to mean more or less whatever's convenient the feminist concerned at… | /r/MensRights | 17/10/22 07:30 PM |
| 1 | How do I (a woman) support my boyfriend so that he feels that his rights (in terms of men's rights) are being respected?If you'll put up with my going on about this a bit more: People end up hurting people sometimes. I don't think it's commonly much to do with gender, race, or any of the other things that I think modern politics have made into much bigger deals than they should be. You're in a relationship with the guy; you know what he's like better than any of us do. I suspect in general you will find most people here are into treating everyone (male and female) as an individual and not trying to generalise. If… | /r/MensRights | 17/10/22 12:29 PM |
| 60 | How do I (a woman) support my boyfriend so that he feels that his rights (in terms of men's rights) are being respected?I don't know you or your other half, but if you've actually given this stuff enough thought to come here and post about it, I'd hazard a guess you're probably already behaving like a reasonable human being. | /r/MensRights | 16/10/22 07:48 AM |
| 31 | I made a post in mildly infuriating about a piece of mens clothing on Amazon having only women wearing it. This was the response.I wish you didn't feel that way about other people who look like me. I don't. It's personal. I have long suspected that anyone who uses the phrase "people who look like me" is both a fool and a bigot. | /r/MensRights | 15/10/22 11:34 PM |
| 4 | Tackling Male Suicide A New ‘Whole System’ ApproachI've skimmed the document, and most of the stuff in it is blindingly obvious and common knowledge to anyone who's made an honest attempt to consider the situation. The fact that it's been published at all is pretty astonishing to me, although I notice it's received almost no publicity. The problem with this is that most of the recommendations in that document are things which cannot reasonably be expected to happen given the current political reality. For instance, it recommends doing several th… | /r/MensRights | 15/10/22 06:51 PM |
| 2 | I spent my night watching “The Red Pill” by former Feminist Cassie Jaye this is how i feel about itThe reason Jaye had the experience she had is that she took a very traditional approach to documentary-making (I have some professional experience in the field). In short, she transcribed everything her interviewees had said, word for word, into a written document, as part of her editing process. This is sometimes helpful because it makes everything searchable, which is handy. However, it is not something that everyone does in these situations. Most people just dump everything into the edit soft… | /r/MensRights | 14/10/22 08:17 PM |
| 4 | Why do so many men continue to blindly endorse the notion that feminism is about equality, despite overwhelming objective evidence to the contrary?Short answer - because some people who describe themselves as feminists are into equality, and because the word "equality" has a lot of interpretations. Now, you may say that any particular person will flip-flop rapidly between claiming feminism is about equality and then going on to say things which directly contradict that, and you might be right, but society doesn't seem very interested in the contradictions and hypocrisy that so frequently attend this subject. For what it's worth, if there's… | /r/MensRights | 14/10/22 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Feel like I'm being Gaslight by society to think I'm some insane abuser...Get a lawyer at any cost. If you try to defend yourself you will lose. I won't comment on the specifics as I don't know either of you nor what you've said and done to each other in the past. All I'd say is that if you have various orders out on each other, you should not be within a hundred feet of each other, let alone cosying up at a social event. Have nothing to do with her. Do not open the door. Do not respond to contacts. Do not discuss. Block, mute, avoid, ignore. Not out of spite, but bec… | /r/MensRights | 14/10/22 08:07 PM |
| 14 | Rampant misandry in the AirBnB sub: I wanted to understand why they wouldn’t rent out to men. Turns out all men are disgusting and destructive.If I were a single man living in a house on his own, I wouldn't rent a spare room to lone women, either. Too much risk to me. Suspect AirBnB would take a dim view of that decision but I wouldn't be too public about it. I have stayed in AirBnBs owned by lone women, but, randomly, only when they weren't there. I remember mentioning to one of them that I wouldn't necessarily want to give a complete stranger the keys to my place while I wasn't even there, and she responded that it felt like a risk, … | /r/MensRights | 14/10/22 08:03 PM |
| 1 | First time posting here, so it's going to be rant-ish. But I really don't get this. I posted something on the polls subsection. All I said was: For younger guys, do you feel valued by society?I'm trying as hard as I can to remain neutral, or perhaps better, to retain a degree of distance from these issues. That is very difficult to do, and many won't. The people who see it as their job to oppose any thought of men even having rights that are worth observing are often very good at making things extremely personal and I don't blame people for occasionally being goaded into displays of anger; it's hardly unjustified when you're being personally accused of things everyone knows it is imp… | /r/MensRights | 12/10/22 03:57 PM |
| 6 | I literally can't go online in almost any regard without seeing sanction, celibrated belittling or straight hatred of men.. Starts off with an AITA post being posted in a similar group, leads me to shit like this. the irony of rule 3 of the hate group would be comical if it wasn't so messed upI'd always take a very cautious approach to commenting on things like this. The reasonableness of either his or her position depends very heavily on precisely what was said by each person at what time, what the history is, how much the writer is filtering... this is an interpersonal dispute between two people and we simply can't possibly know enough to sensibly comment. Of course, responses to this which immediately assume the man is the baddie are inappropriate, but then again almost any side-t… | /r/MensRights | 12/10/22 07:43 AM |
| -3 | First time posting here, so it's going to be rant-ish. But I really don't get this. I posted something on the polls subsection. All I said was: For younger guys, do you feel valued by society?It's weird and creepy of society to react like that, and that's what's causing the problem. I'm a moderate. I'm never going to start throwing around accusations against all women, or even all feminists, in the same way that really nasty hardline feminists do about men, and I'd never refer to myself as a men's rights activist because too much bad has been done under that banner, just as much bad has been done under the name of feminism. But more and more people who aren't usually particularly pol… | /r/MensRights | 12/10/22 07:39 AM |
| 2 | The average woman is not an innocent brainwashed victim of feminism!Honestly, that's a pretty good response in context. | /r/MensRights | 10/10/22 12:13 AM |
| 1 | Why is it that anytime a man voices frustration with anything in regard to Men’s Rights it is suggested he “hates” women?The sad reality is that morality has never had any absolute characteristics. So, no, it's not always obvious to all people that obviously bad things are obviously bad. If that seems like a sop to believing and doing anything we want, well... actually, that's shockingly close to how humanity in general has been operating for millennia. All we as individuals can really do about this is try to see everyone as a human and try to treat others as we'd want to be treated, which is about as close as you… | /r/MensRights | 10/10/22 12:12 AM |
| 2 | Feminists attack churches in Mexico and South AmericaI assume they'll be catholic churches who don't much like birth control. Find it hard to figure out who I like least in that fight. | /r/MensRights | 08/10/22 04:16 PM |
| 8 | Why is it that anytime a man voices frustration with anything in regard to Men’s Rights it is suggested he “hates” women?As u/DavidByron2 correctly says, because it works, as both an interpersonal and political attack intended to silence opposition. If there's a fundamental problem that underlies all others, it's that society has for some reason decided to accept this accusation, and others, without question. I think the principal frustration that drives a lot of the anger we see on r/mensrights is not that a large number of women are actually inclined toward the sort of politics we often find ourselves opposing. … | /r/MensRights | 08/10/22 04:14 PM |
| 2 | She hulk fans blame menWell, quite. That's the concern with a lot of these things. They wreck something that could have been fine. There's nothing wrong with a lightweight comedy about the things thirtysomething women go through - Ally McBeal was a perfectly serviceable example - it's just that She-Hulk probably wasn't the right platform for it. | /r/MensRights | 07/10/22 07:43 AM |
| 3 | What do you think feminist gets right?There's a very important distinction to make here. I don't see people blaming women and feminism for the existence of those problems. I do see people becoming justifiably angry when really hardline feminism is used as a platform from which to play down those problems, suppress attempts to solve those problems, and, in every possible way, jealously guard victim status for themselves. That might seem like splitting hairs, but that's the issue here. | /r/MensRights | 07/10/22 12:42 AM |
| 6 | She hulk fans blame menWell, it had the lead character walk into the bat cave, point at the suit, say "it will be [perfect] when it fits a woman," and then practically in the same breath say something along the lines of "I won't let a man take credit for a woman's work." I mean, I don't like to nitpick the politics of comic book movies, but in the name of any available deity, that's so self-contradictory that it can only really be expressed by drawing an n-dimensional fractal through fifteen parallel universes of hypo… | /r/MensRights | 07/10/22 12:26 AM |
| 4 | She hulk fans blame menI come at all this not being particularly a Star Wars fan in the first place; it's too storybook, too simple (my heart belongs to the first two Alien movies). To be honest, the reason that I was not a big fan of Star Wars was that the lead character was too much of a whiny little boy scout ("but I was going to Tosche Station to pick up power converters!") who was too good at everything too fast. I remember very distinctly, even in single digits of age, thinking oh, come on, now he's a fighter pi… | /r/MensRights | 07/10/22 12:08 AM |
| 54 | She hulk fans blame menI suspect there's more than that. If you include movies, you've got at least Ghostbusters 3 and Charlie's Angels (director is still whining about that), and that's before you even get to Hulk, Batwoman, etc. | /r/MensRights | 06/10/22 02:56 PM |
| 18 | She hulk fans blame menIt doesn't. What makes the show "woke" (a word I don't generally use) is making that character's minority status a bigger part of the storyline than his or her identity as a human being. | /r/MensRights | 06/10/22 02:54 PM |
| 8 | Help this feminist understand.I don't think the traditional political spectrum is a very useful way to describe situations or people's views. It's ludicrously oversimplified and can be divisive in itself. Still, if you were to absolutely insist, I'd describe myself as being mildly left of what's probably the centre here where I live (which, by American standards, would make me the reincarnation of Lenin). And I'm here. So yes. | /r/MensRights | 06/10/22 10:10 AM |
| 10 | Father killed himself after being asked for £11,000 child support, inquest told | UK news | The GuardianSo you don’t think he should have been held responsible for taking care of his son Nobody said that. Well, you did. Why? | /r/MensRights | 06/10/22 10:08 AM |
| 1 | Help this feminist understand.Hello, and good for you for being willing to post here and ask these questions. For context, I have long tried to be a voice of reason here and strike something of a balance; I refer to myself as neither a feminist nor a men's rights activist because bad things have been done under both those banners. If you want a label, I'm an egalitarian (and I really don't see why that doesn't cover most bases with regard to ensuring people are treated fairly, but that's another matter). With that in mind th… | /r/MensRights | 06/10/22 08:29 AM |
| 2 | Most women see very few men as attractive: devaluation of male attractivenessOne thing to bear in mind about this is that the question refers solely to looks, not about general attractiveness, though that does get somewhat blurred in the comments. If it's part of normal human sexual dimorphism that women, on average, aren't really bothered so much about looks, so be it. It's not really clear whether this ends up being about women having ludicrously high standards, or whether it's just that they don't often have their heads turned by a particularly visually attractive man… | /r/MensRights | 05/10/22 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Apparently, we shouldn't make misandry a hate crime, and if you think so, that should concern you.Sure, very possibly. I'm not here to argue that it's good law, although as I say, it's pretty much a restatement of the status quo that's existed for years. As far as I'm aware courts are generally quite careful about letting juries know about someone's past, on the basis that they're supposed to be considering what someone's done on this occasion, not what everyone thinks that person is likely to have done based on what's happened in the past. This is one reason that rape complainants are somet… | /r/MensRights | 05/10/22 08:25 AM |
| 1 | Apparently, we shouldn't make misandry a hate crime, and if you think so, that should concern you.Framing it in the language of protected classes is still questionable because unless the law is applied equally across all forms of hatred towards groups of people, then the law disproportionately targets certain forms of hate over others and may not criminalize other forms of hate that are equally vitriolic Well, quite. If there's a problem here, that's it. | /r/MensRights | 05/10/22 08:18 AM |
| 1 | feminist tries to justify misandryIn person, I've heard women say that in jest, if only fairly limited number of times. Obviously it's trivial to find a million examples online, from Pauline Harmange's book down. | /r/MensRights | 05/10/22 08:16 AM |
| 2 | Question for all you men.It just becomes a semantic argument about what "feminist" means. Lots of people will claim that feminism is simply about equality of opportunity, and in that case, I'm a feminist, as are the overwhelming majority of people. Personally, I think way too many things have been done under the banner of feminism, using feminism as a justification, which are not consistent with equality of opportunity, and as such I would not generally refer to myself as a feminist. Similarly, too many questionable thi… | /r/MensRights | 05/10/22 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Apparently, we shouldn't make misandry a hate crime, and if you think so, that should concern you.Not necessarily. What I'm talking about here is the severity of and motivations behind a crime affecting sentencing, which is completely normal. It was already quite possible to punish someone more severely for a crime up if the perpetrator was motivated by (say) racism. We never really needed what's been called hate crime rules to do that; it's a sort of legislative virtue signalling. Now, you could say that a woman assaulting a man based on the fact that she's a hardline feminist fundamentalis… | /r/MensRights | 05/10/22 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Apparently, we shouldn't make misandry a hate crime, and if you think so, that should concern you.Well, that's what the court case is for. Ultimately sentencing is in the gift of the judge; I guess the clue is in the name. Either way, I'm not taking a position on the state of the law, or whether this is good or bad, fair or unfair; I'm just stating what the law is. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/22 09:24 PM |
| 7 | Apparently, we shouldn't make misandry a hate crime, and if you think so, that should concern you.Clickbait, that's how. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/22 05:52 PM |
| 2 | Apparently, we shouldn't make misandry a hate crime, and if you think so, that should concern you.There's something worth understanding here. In most jurisdictions where terms like "hate crime" are used, the implication is not, usually, that hating something is a crime. What it usually means, as here, is that evidence of some kind of prejudice is taken as a significant exacerbating factor, leading to harsher sentencing, etc. In many ways there's nothing wrong with that, even if only on the basis that it's the sort of thing that any judge would take into account when sentencing someone anyway… | /r/MensRights | 04/10/22 05:50 PM |
| 6 | feminist tries to justify misandryThe reason why men say "I hate women" Er... do they? I've never once heard anyone say that, even in jest. I have, however, heard many, many women proclaim an undying hatred of all men. | /r/MensRights | 04/10/22 05:46 PM |
| 2 | why is it when a man can't do something it's "weponized incompetence" but when a women can't do something everyone turns a blind eye?Women are ASKING men to put the dishes away, put the toilet seat down, and little things like that. I never hear men asking women to mow the lawn or do an oil change. I'm not sure I really recognise what you're saying, here, in that I grew up in a house where either of my parents (or me, when I was old enough) would mow the lawn if it needed mowing. You seem to be concerned that not being asked to do things is somehow discriminatory. (Also, good grief, is the toilet seat thing really an issue fo… | /r/MensRights | 03/10/22 08:31 PM |
| 8 | looking for opinions on this messI tend toward u/tyjuji's view that everyone involved in this is mad. Who would ask for a deposit on a date? Who would pay a deposit on a date? Who would set up an evening out with a new acquaintance and then stand that person up? If that's common behaviour then the world is broken. When I was a young man I'd have moved mountains not to miss a date, and I know the women I saw would have done the same. That's not special. That's not amazing. That's normal human politeness. There are only idiots in… | /r/MensRights | 03/10/22 09:00 AM |
| 3 | Men under 30 are less accepting of women’s rightsIt's very important to draw a distinction between equal rights for everyone, which I think more or less everyone fully supports, and special benefits for special interest groups, which are sometimes very far from okay. One of the problems here is that articles like the one cited here don't make that distinction and spend a lot of time accusing men in general, or at least one subgroup of men, of not being supportive of equality. In my experience, that's not what's going on. I find basically every… | /r/MensRights | 03/10/22 07:23 AM |
| 2 | Woman jailed for more than five years for making 10 false rape claims against two different menLet's not get too excited. Depending how long she's been on remand, if at all, and if she doesn't start arbitrarily smashing people over the head with chairs while she's inside, she'll probably only do 18 months. | /r/MensRights | 02/10/22 10:26 AM |
| 2 | Do you guys also get called incel all the time just because you partake in this sub?Well, I'm in a long term relationship, and most people I know are aware of that, but I'm not really sure why I'd actually be in circumstances where people would be throwing that sort of term around. Do people actually talk like that in real life? | /r/MensRights | 02/10/22 10:10 AM |
| 6 | I’m genuinely tired of seeing men being put down just because of our gendermen couldn’t last a day in our shoes and it shows Based on what - her experience of being a man? This is a tremendously common tactic that's often wheeled out whenever someone feels they've already got the moral authority in a discussion, and can therefore state opinion as fact. The weasel phrase here is "lived experience," and while people's experiences are a naturally a formative influence on their psychology, in any sort of serious discussion the term is effectively equivalent to "anecdotal e… | /r/MensRights | 02/10/22 10:05 AM |
| 1 | Men's problems are menI'm torn on this because at some level I agree that a significant amount of what's said on r/mensrights makes it harder to talk about men's rights, and that people should try to be more moderate and more willing to engage in debate. On the other hand, it's hard to avoid the reality that the forces of really hardline feminism will not do us the same favour. They seem almost singularly dedicated to avoiding debate, possibly because they're actually quite aware that some (many) of their positions a… | /r/MensRights | 02/10/22 09:54 AM |
| 15 | why is it when a man can't do something it's "weponized incompetence" but when a women can't do something everyone turns a blind eye?He knows that if he doesn't learn it, his wife will just do it for him. Men aren't out there asking their wives to mow the lawn or clip the weeds or change the oil. You can't have it both ways. You're working on the assumption that if a man doesn't do something it's because he's lazy, whereas if a woman doesn't do something it's because he won't let her. Formally, this is a begging-the-question fallacy, or circular reasoning; all you're really claiming here is that men are bad because of the b… | /r/MensRights | 02/10/22 08:05 AM |
| 13 | Please refute the "flawed" study that everyone quotes saying men leave their partners when they get cancer.Less than a month ago a very good friend of mine lost his wife to cancer in her early forties. He spent most of the last two years missing work in order to look after her and his life currently consists of wandering around the house they used to live in, wondering when it's okay to start packing up her stuff and getting rid of it, in an absolute horror show of grief. It's horrible enough to watch it happen. What it's like to live it, I hardly dare imagine. Meanwhile, he's being pressured to get … | /r/MensRights | 02/10/22 06:57 AM |
| 26 | Billie Eilish Says Ugly MEN DON'T DESERVE A CHANCEOK, Billie, stay at home, then. What's the problem? | /r/MensRights | 30/09/22 11:39 PM |
| 4 | How do I respond to women who say "We're repulsed by men's emotions because we've been brainwashed by the patriarchy?"If someone said that to me, my response would be (with a knowing smile) "OK, fuck off and talk to someone with a vagina, then." And then, if she didn't, I'd make it very clear I was serious. I'm not here to take that sort of shit from people. | /r/MensRights | 30/09/22 11:36 PM |
| 5 | Facebook post deleted because it contained FACTS. Men are more likely to be the victims of violent crimes.This is the point at which critical social justice - or at least the thing which is referred to as critical social justice - entirely jumps the shark for me. The insistence that only one group must always, solely and exclusively be the victim is very obviously absurd, and probably pretty damaging to more or less everyone, especially women in this instance. It's also the point at which the mask slips, particularly with regard to the real hard core of modern feminism. Try as I might (and I have do… | /r/MensRights | 30/09/22 11:22 PM |
| 8 | Why do that even bother THEM?A lot of that is in how you choose to spin it. You can choose for yourself as to whether any of the following statements are devil's advocacy or not - I would not personally choose to throw these arguments in anyone's face because they are divisive and inflammatory in ways I don't think helps, but for the sake of argument, here it is. - At least some of the gender bias in research is down to differences in the willingness of men and women to volunteer in studies. In general this is, like a lot o… | /r/MensRights | 29/09/22 02:57 PM |
| 16 | Update: Complaint about banning men from swimming pool.The big problem here is not really about access to the pool. It's about women's prejudiced attitude to men and the fact that the council are enabling that prejudice. If someone were to say that they wanted a session solely for white people, that person would be told, quite correctly, that their attitude was unacceptable. If someone were to say that they wanted a session solely for men, that person would also be told that their attitude was unacceptable. And that second example is actually not a … | /r/MensRights | 29/09/22 10:26 AM |
| 3 | "Men are TERRIBLE by nature" -College Professor(audio)Strictly speaking most of what he said is true. The problem is how that is used to demonise all men. If he'd gone on to say that women are the majority of child abusers I'd have more time for him, but that's not... that's not... ...that's not permitted to be true, I guess. | /r/MensRights | 28/09/22 03:25 PM |
| 4 | Absolutely heartbreaking article about male rape in wartimeOne of the issues here is the same as with many other kinds of violence against men. The response will be "but the perpetrators are men!" Of course, any sane human being would respond with "So what?!" Modern society, on the other hand, and particularly the more hardline feminist parts of it, tend to nod sagely on the unspoken but absolute and inviolable assumption that the only type of violence that matters is that where the victim is female. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/22 09:43 PM |
| 3 | Prison hurts women more than men — so England is trying a new approachI'm not quite sure how some of the logic is supposed to work there. One claim given here is that women are less likely to be violent. Okay. Sure. But it then suggests it's a good idea not to imprison them even when they are violent. That might be true (I suspect it isn't, at least not all the time, but it could be). The thing is, that's got absolutely nothing to do with the prevalence of violent women. In short, if it's a bad idea to imprison violent women, it's a bad idea, regardless of whether… | /r/MensRights | 25/09/22 10:15 AM |
| 2 | How is this okay?!He was daft to initiate it, I suspect we all agree. But regardless the cicumstances, if he'd put any girl in hospital, he'd be spending time in prison. | /r/MensRights | 25/09/22 09:42 AM |
| 2 | Sheryl Sandberg Says Female Leaders Don’t Start Wars. Here’s What Research SaysOn the basis that the overwhelming majority of men and women are vanishingly unlikely ever to be in a position to start a war whether they want to or not, this would be of limited relevance to most of us even if Sandberg were right. There is a wider issue, though. Really unpleasant hardline feminists - and even the less-hardline fringes - frequently cite the propensity of men toward (for instance) risk-taking and overconfidence as a justification for the fact that men are (for instance) injured,… | /r/MensRights | 25/09/22 09:30 AM |
| 22 | What does circumcision actually take away?Difficult to clean? Seems fine. I shower. | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 11:08 AM |
| 1 | The amount of mental gymnastics to avoid putting a weight filter on dating apps is astounding. (See here)It's certainly true that muscle is denser than fat, although unless someone is a really extreme bodybuilder that's wildly unlikely to make enough difference to alter their attractiveness to any particular person. People have repeatedly tried to invalidate body mass index as a measure of health with this argument, but for most people it's unlikely to move the number by more than plus or minus one. BMI would be a reasonable thing to list. | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 10:49 AM |
| 28 | "If Gender Doesn’t Matter, Why do Female Politicians Say They’re Better Because They’re Women?"This is one of the core hypocrisies of hardline feminism. Here's the simplest expression: They want 50% men and women in each role*, which would require that men and women are, on average, psychologically identical. Simultaneously, they're fine with the much higher murder, suicide and imprisonment rates for men, which would require that men and women are psychologically not identical. By identical in this context, we mean not just equal, which is of course fine, but identical, which it's very ea… | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 10:35 AM |
| -1 | When bringing up men's issues, how would you respond to a feminist who claims "patriarchy hurts men too"?In extremis, she's probably right, for at least some values of patriarchy. The problem really is that the sort of patriarchy a lot of really hardline feminists are talking about doesn't really exist, at least not to the extent they claim it does, and certainly not in all circumstances. Personally I'd say that outspoken anti-guy prejudice hurts men a hell of a lot more, and I see mainstream feminism pushing for that as much as they possibly can get away with (which, these days, is quite a lot). W… | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 10:22 AM |
| 12 | “It’s not the same.” I have no words. Absolutely disgusting.Tell that to several tens of thousands of dead Ukrainian conscripts. | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 10:18 AM |
| 3 | The rise of lonely, single everyone; “A recent article… its thesis is that men are entirely responsible for being single due to their general uselessness and toxicity.”When my partner of a more than a decade takes an eleven-hour flight home that she's had to run to make after a long day at a moderately physical job in a very hot country, she doesn't always smell nice. | /r/MensRights | 23/09/22 07:46 AM |
| 6 | Getting groped by women and then being treated like I did something wrongI've said this a lot myself; I work in an industry where we see a lot of people from all over the world, which is generally interesting and great, but it does mean there's a lot of unexpected touchy-feely hugging involved. Unexpected hugs from complete strangers are not normal in my society, my profession, or my life experience and they make me very uncomfortable. I often feel I have no bodily autonomy to speak of and if I object it's generally laughed up. The level of hypocrisy here is just abs… | /r/MensRights | 23/09/22 07:39 AM |
| 1 | “She-Hulk has a lot of problems, and outside of its blatant misandry, its biggest one is that it just has no direction.”I think it's worth sounding a slight note of caution here. The quality of this show is not in itself a men's rights issue. Any anti-guy prejudice that may come up might be a men's rights issue, but honestly, my shoulders are broad enough to shrug off the views of some trivial piece of Marvel-based fluff. It's certainly an issue of gender politics more generally, inasmuch as it's increasingly hard to deny that the quality of this show and others like it has been affected by desperate virtue-signa… | /r/MensRights | 23/09/22 07:34 AM |
| 7 | Men have fewer friends than ever, and it’s harming their healthOne argument I have with that piece is the repeated claim - well, not even claim, statement - that the characteristics of men which make them lonely are entirely created by society. I suspect they are, to at least some extent, much as the stereotypical characteristics of women are also probably created by society to at least some extent, but that's certainly far from the whole story. Another concern is that some of the things which make people (particularly men) lonely are discussed solely in a … | /r/MensRights | 21/09/22 09:57 PM |
| 2 | American boys and men are suffering — and our culture doesn't know how to talk about itI think Reeves is being pathetically gentle, here, but there is something to say about it. If he went any further than this, if he was any more robust than this, if was any more outspoken on behalf of men and boys, he would be unable to get his book published and might lose his career. That's certainly not an excuse not to care, but it is a reason to do what he's doing. I don't know what's going on in his head, but it's quite possible he's doing literally everything he can here. Try to do any mo… | /r/MensRights | 21/09/22 07:23 PM |
| 2 | The cognitive differences between men and womenEh, there are sometimes a few, but there are a few both ways. | /r/MensRights | 21/09/22 09:34 AM |
| 1 | Feminist Logic: Insead of actually asking MRAs what they want, ask other feminists and then circle jerk to their own strawman responsesI find it hard to take /r/askfeminists seriously when they restrict comments to feminists, where their definition of "feminist" appears to be anyone they agree with. Strikes me they don't have much confidence in their position. Frankly, though, I'm on the fence, and by that I do mean I'm neither a men's rights activist nor a feminist, because neither term has a well-defined meaning and that's half the problem. People on both sides argue about the very worst examples of people on the other and th… | /r/MensRights | 21/09/22 09:31 AM |
| 28 | Biden administration guts due process protections for students accused of sexual misconduct; "Under new regulations, Title IX investigators can deny students access to the evidence against them"I don't think they understand what it's like to be a guy, no one helps you at all. Of course they don't. That's not their lived experience. That's your lived experience. But somehow it doesn't count... | /r/MensRights | 21/09/22 09:13 AM |
| 1 | Opinions on feminist MRA’s?Sure, fine, but I think that's the operative point - that's not a very reasonable definition, considering what people sometimes claim it's supposed to be about (it may be an accurate definition, but that's another matter entirely). I don't generally like describing myself as anything ending in -ist, at least in a political context, because history has often not been kind to people who do. | /r/MensRights | 07/09/22 01:23 AM |
| 8 | Opinions on feminist MRA’s?In the end it just becomes a semantic argument about what the word "feminist" means. By any reasonable definition of the word, I'm a feminist, and so are the overwhelming majority of people in the developed world. At the same time, there's a lot of people - feminist extremists, I'd say - who get a lot of their self worth from the exclusivity of their in-group, who are thoroughly dedicated to their own victim complexes, and who don't really want you to agree with them. They don't like you, emotio… | /r/MensRights | 05/09/22 11:07 PM |
| 68 | Normalisation of sexual harassment against menI'm in an industry which is very touchy-feely, and women often approach for a hug. I don't like it and usually hold out a hand to shake. I reckon about a third of women walk straight past it, saying something along the lines of "oh, come here!" and grab me anyway. It probably happens weekly, I'd say, and not always the same person. I should add, most of these people know I'm married and absolutely all of them can see I'm extremely unattractive, physically, so I'm emphatically not claiming they'r… | /r/MensRights | 04/09/22 02:42 AM |
| 5 | I'm afraid to be accused as a pedophile because of my work.I hear you. I can only compare it to my own situation. I work in an industry which is widely seen as desirable and interesting (by people who don't work in it!) and for a long time I was involved in outreach and training work, which often involved young people and sometimes school-age kids. We stopped doing it for very much the same reasons you mention, because it had started to feel like a bad risk for a largely male team. At the moment we have a serious lack of workers in this field and there … | /r/MensRights | 03/09/22 01:28 PM |
| 3 | So apparently male suicide is caused by toxic masculinityLink is broken. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/22 08:24 AM |
| 44 | So apparently male suicide is caused by toxic masculinityThey were doing quite well until they described self-reliance as a negative trait. I'm not quite sure how anyone expects this stuff to be taken seriously. It seems designed to vilify and attack anyone who's ever striven for anything or had any form of ambition. I'm completely aware of the point they're trying to make and it's not necessarily wrong, but the way it's framed turns the entire thing into an attack on men in general which would never be accepted against women. They'd claim otherwise. … | /r/MensRights | 03/09/22 08:21 AM |
| 18 | I'm afraid to be accused as a pedophile because of my work.Sorry to say it it, but I simply wouldn't be willing to do that kind of work. It is possible to be too paranoid about this kind of stuff and we do see people taking it a bit far sometimes, but if you have already experienced unwanted physical contact from the kids and the parents clearly don't like it, I think you're at huge risk. Find something else to do, seriously. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/22 08:16 AM |
| 5 | the entiltement..Doesn't that whole exchange make the female into more or less a will-work-for-food worker in the world's oldest profession? I smell shenanigans. Is this made up? | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 02:33 PM |
| 2 | UK: Middle-aged 'Sugar Daddy', 50, is cleared of raping 14-year-old internet date after judge ruled the girl 'told so many lies' the trial could not continueChrist on a bike, there are no nice people in this story. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 02:30 PM |
| 3 | Gawd - can’t a guy even watch a documentary about cute kitty cats w/o jabs about men?As far as I was aware, early witchcraft more or less WAS a stupid superstition of uneducated people. So're most religions, to be fair... | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 02:29 PM |
| 2 | When I was involved in an accident first responders were women and they were afraid to help me. They had to wait for men to arrive.To be fair, the idea of any modern military having any realistic option to keep certain demographics out of combat is pretty thin. What's going on in Ukraine right now is actually pretty atypical, in that it has at least something of a traditional front line. Most of the wars that have happened in the last few decades have not been like that, and a lot of the combat has been ambushes on supply convoys and things of that sort. In some cases part of the (pretty reasonable) rationale for integratin… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 02:27 PM |
| 3 | The most irrelevant Misandrist Argument aroundAren't all service people, which I take to mean anyone working in customer service, expected to maintain a pleasant demeanour? | /r/MensRights | 29/08/22 03:20 PM |
| 22 | When did being a simple man become demonized?If you've ever been a loser with a girlfriend there's *always* someone who says something about it, it outrages them that somehow a male slipped through the system of exploitation and in into someone's pussy. Hello! She out-earns me at least 3:1 and barring a minor miracle always will. The thing that strikes me about it is how much better-adjusted and happier she is than the average hardline feminist. | /r/MensRights | 29/08/22 11:45 AM |
| 1 | Competence isn’t the same as misogyny/mansplainingI've never been personally accused of it, but I think my response would be "Well, OK, I won't tell you why you're wrong, but you're still wrong." | /r/MensRights | 27/08/22 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Man launches legal case after he was sacked for not being a feministWell, yes. It's actually not even a problem specific to gender politics. Anyone who's ever taken legal action against any employer, for any reason, is always going to be that person who went after their employer, and other employers in that field are going to be aware of it, no matter who won. You'll always be the troublemaker. It's a big step to take, and honestly, you'd be forgiven for not wanting to stick your neck out. Also, we're not in the USA. People here are not quite so extravagantly li… | /r/MensRights | 27/08/22 03:17 PM |
| 10 | Man launches legal case after he was sacked for not being a feministI don't think the UK has anti discrimination hiring laws based on gender It does; it's a hard equality of opportunity law (great!) but it is broken constantly and it's more or less impossible to have it enforced on behalf of men. I'm currently in discussion with a group of about 15 men, all of whom have been invited to job interviews and then told they're only there to create the impression of a fair hiring process, because the employer is only interested in hiring women. And that's just the one… | /r/MensRights | 26/08/22 09:46 AM |
| 4 | Endlessly pointing out double standards is not a winning strategy in and of itself.Much of this is valid but I'll agree with many other people who have said that rational argument doesn't really work here. I've often thought about how we address all this stuff sanely - in a way that works for everyone, that leads to a society that's fair for everyone. The problem is I don't think that's the goal of the really hardline feminists. In that group I do not include the overwhelming majority of women, though the overwhelming majority of women are probably guilty of tacitly supporting… | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 08:01 PM |
| 3 | Civil servant launches legal case over claim he was sacked for not being a feministIf I had a placard that read "Take everyone seriously but believe no-one," I'd wave it. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 05:39 PM |
| 16 | HBO's 'House Of The Dragon' Has A "Feminist Grooming Agenda"I wouldn't put it like that; claiming to be tired of female leaders invites accusations of misogyny. Aliens is a fantastic movie. The first Tomb Raider is a laugh. I can't say too much that's good about the Resident Evil series, but people seemed to like it, and it wasn't dripping with pointless politics, neither are the Underworld movies, and while I've only seen the first Hunger Games, and it certainly is political, it's not political in the same way as Admiral Holdo is... political. I don't r… | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 10:33 AM |
| 5 | Tired of height supremacistsI'm 6'3" and believe me, you don't want to be this tall. I had back problems at 19 and I stick out embarrassingly in a crowd. Clothes barely fit me and I usually look like a complete streak of shit. 5'1" women laugh at me as I tower over them - "what's the weather like up there?". It sounds good, but it sometimes isn't. Point is, if a woman wants to have a go at you, she'll find a way. Similarly, if she's into you, she'll find a way to overlook the obvious stuff. I come from a culture where peop… | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 10:26 AM |
| 2 | Yesterday and today I was treated like a piece of meat by an older woman, something feminist say men don't have to deal with.I can't draw any direct parallels but there is a social dynamic at work here to which I don't think there's really an answer. I have had a few poor interactions with friends of my mother's on the basis they presume too much of me, based on their relationship with her. Never something this unpleasant, it's usually more what I'd call boomer humour, those sad little jokes that were funny and new in about 1965 (I'm old, and my folks are, by definition, really old). I find it impolite, presumptive, a… | /r/MensRights | 25/08/22 10:19 AM |
| 1 | UK News: RAF recruitment head refused 'unlawful' order to 'prioritise women and ethnic minorities over white men'Point of order: not a soldier. Soldiers are in the army. I mention this in order that one day I may prevent someone calling a marine a soldier, which will not make said marine, regardless of nationality, very happy. I'm actually not sure what the term for a female RAF officer is in that context. "Airman" would imply enlisted rank, as far as I know, and it's gendered, so... I'm done thinking about this! | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 07:54 PM |
| -4 | Women are more likely to cheat than menI guess that might be mainly a men's issue but is it really a men's rights issue? This shouldn't just be about clobbering women. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 07:24 PM |
| 1 | An honest wish of a Dad.OK, sure, in theory you're absolutely right. I've said this myself on a few occasions: what people call critical theory now is a shambling zombie of what it once was. I'm sure Max Horkheimer is probably rolling in his grave at what people have done with some of his ideas, and I believe that some prominent commentators in that field of philosophy have begged people to stop misusing critical theory in the way it's currently being misused. I'll go back and add clarification to that effect, no argum… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 04:10 PM |
| 2 | An honest wish of a Dad.Er, okay, what's your objection? My position is that all of those things have led to the creation of similar narratives that risk provoking people to self-select out of things they desperately want to do. I have met people to whom I very strongly suspect that has happened, and it is a tragedy. That's not good, whether we're talking race, gender or anything else. What's the problem? | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 12:58 PM |
| 5 | Why are still here floating the area?What on earth are you talking about? Responses like this don't help anyone. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 12:23 PM |
| 1 | An honest wish of a Dad.For what it's worth, I can anecdote about this all day. I work in a traditionally guy-heavy trade. My wife works in an extremely guy-heavy trade that was one of the last in the developed world to open up to women. Both of us are often approached by young people who want to do what we do, and both of us are keen to help. Both of us have met young women who claim they'd like to do what we do, but are afraid to try because they've been told - well, indoctrinated into the idea - that the world is ou… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 12:14 PM |
| 21 | Civil servant launches legal case over claim he was sacked for not being a feministI'll wait for the outcome of the court case. On one hand this could be a horrendous example of prejudice promulgated by hardline feminists. On the other, it could be sour grapes from some guy who had made himself unpopular and wanted to have a go at his boss. You really can't tell without all the facts, which is what we have courts for. I'll say it passes a smell test on the basis that claiming unfair gender discrimination is actually not very likely to work for a man, and his legal representati… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 12:03 PM |
| 2 | Why are so many churches affirming of LGBT, yet they still shame men for looking at porn?Can't agree, formally speaking. Looking at porn is a choice, being gay, trans, or whatever else isn't. That said, I would agree that a lot of religions, particularly catholicism, are obsessed with sex. Man of them try to control reproduction. Others promote routine genital mutilation of boys in a way that would be seen as deviant paedophilia if it didn't have the backing of religious people. I'm not here to defend the church (any church). That said, as I say, you could build an argument that por… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/22 12:00 PM |
| 1 | Overview of the rise of woke cinemaI don't know why they didn't get Naomie Harris to do a Moneypenny TV show. She'd already been shown working in the field, she was popular, it would have made complete sense, and yes if you want to tick boxes she ticks boxes. If they'd just done that, and avoided getting political about it, I think they could have done very well. | /r/MensRights | 23/08/22 11:47 AM |
| 5 | Overview of the rise of woke cinemaI think there's a note of balance to strike here. I watched The 355. I didn't particularly see a lot of overt politicising in it, I just thought it was a pretty generic, not particularly interesting spy thriller. I actually thought it was quite good about not politicising things. I'd say much the same about Black Widow. I mean, it's a female lead, that's fine. I don't see her dunking on men that much. Here's the controversial one: I don't really see it in Captain Marvel. Now, I see it in Brie La… | /r/MensRights | 23/08/22 11:39 AM |
| 6 | Telling a feminist the truth.I keep on saying this. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/22 06:28 PM |
| 1 | Circumcised soon-to-be dad looking for hygiene and general care advice for non-circumcised son.I'm not in the USA and we don't generally circumcise. No special technique required here. Pull back, once it's possible to pull back, and wash like you'd wash anything else. Don't force it, obviously. Shower gel. No big deal. Does need washing out, like any fold of flesh. No special technique required, though. Tip 'o the hat for not circumcising your son! | /r/MensRights | 21/08/22 09:43 AM |
| 2 | Circumcised soon-to-be dad looking for hygiene and general care advice for non-circumcised son.Very much so, I can't imagine it'd be that great not to use some sort of detergent and shower gel is fine in my experience. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/22 09:42 AM |
| 17 | Been blackmailedIf she posts it online she'll be guilty of distributing child porn, so there's that. I'd agree with others here: take it to your folks. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/22 09:37 AM |
| 1 | I’m a woman and the worst type of women to deal with are feminists.One of the biggest problems with this is that like a lot of political ideologues, really serious hardcore feminists, in my direct experience, tend to be pretty abrasive, unpleasant people. Not only does this lead to people not hiring them, not wanting to work with them, and not wanting to advance them, all of which justifies their negative expectations, it also leads to a self-fulfilling prophecy in which they see unpleasantness everywhere, expect it constantly, read it into every situation then… | /r/MensRights | 21/08/22 09:33 AM |
| 3 | "Madonna Doesn’t Want ‘Misogynistic Men’ Directing Her Biopic, So She’s Doing It Herself"Strikes me as shockingly narcissistic, almost to the point of total sociopathy, to be honest. Speaking as someone who's had some contact with the film and TV industry, when she's whining about not being able to cut her script down to a reasonable length, that's really a first year film studies undergrad problem. That's a problem real screenwriters fully understand and deal with without a second thought. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 02:30 PM |
| 1 | I Was a Feminist Until....I just don't see the need to discriminate. Why would anyone need to organise to make any of this stuff happen? We don't need this to be tribal (in fact we need exactly the opposite). | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 02:28 PM |
| 1 | what do you think about women refusing to help men?I'd say it's pretty rare and we shouldn't allow ourselves to be duped by social media's tendency to concentrate together all the things that wind us up. When it does happen, of course, it's profoundly sociopathic. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/22 10:03 AM |
| 2 | When someone is debating over financial abortion, some people argue against it saying that they should just not have sex. But for normal abortions, they don't say that.I dunno, I think more or less everyone regrets the necessity of abortion; I don't think any woman in her right mind wants to undergo any of the various procedures that are necessary to make it happen. Even the early-stage pharmacological approaches can be a pretty unpleasant experience. I think it's worth separating "obviously we'd all prefer this wasn't necessary" from "sometimes it's necessary anyway." Both can be true at once, of course. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/22 09:57 AM |
| 8 | How do we protect ourselves from false accusations?You can't. Given one man was arrested for walking past a woman at a railway station, in the presence of absolutely exculpatory CCTV and hundreds of eyewitnesses failing to noticing a sexual assault which was supposed to have happened right in front of them, it's pretty clear at this point that in extremis, any woman can have any man arrested at any time for any reason or none. As I've often said here, let's keep this in perspective: this is not common, or at least it's not clear it's common beca… | /r/MensRights | 08/08/22 10:24 AM |
| 8 | Imagine if it said boys...That was my reaction too. I'm not sure why people are objecting to what you're saying! | /r/MensRights | 07/08/22 05:08 PM |
| 2 | Men = bad. Women = "victim-survivors"...What I find most alarming about that is the way the article, and the training it's describing, seem keen to describe how normal abusive relationships can look, to the point of encouraging more or less everyone to be suspicious of more or less all relationships in more or less all circumstances. That may be fine to an extent, but there doesn't seem to be an awful lot of caution over what you might call false positives here, situations where genuinely ill-intentioned women might take advantage of … | /r/MensRights | 07/08/22 09:39 AM |
| 0 | Wage GapWhat we're discussing here is more or less forensic statistics, and there is quite a large margin for error. This is why we have professional statisticians, who do their best to take a reasonable number of things into account, but what's reasonable is inevitably, to some extent, a matter of opinion. I have no idea why people vote this sort of thing down; it's pretty well known and not in any sense controversial. The Google phrase you're looking for is "unexplained pay gap." Really, we should be … | /r/MensRights | 07/08/22 09:24 AM |
| 6 | Wage GapIs that one of those things that's true in certain age ranges? I think younger women actually do better than men in a large number of categories. | /r/MensRights | 07/08/22 01:00 AM |
| -5 | Wage GapThere are statistics which show a small residual pay gap of about 5% which is often called the "unexplained pay gap." We don't really know why it exists. It could be prejudice. It could be a lot of other things. All of this is dependent on what any particular person thinks is reasonable behaviour by any involved party. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/22 09:29 PM |
| 14 | Wage GapI've seen statistics which suggest in many advanced economies there's an unexplained pay gap of perhaps 5%, which may be what you're thinking of. It could be discrimination. It could be a lot of other things. We don't know. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/22 09:26 PM |
| 4 | Wage Gapif they could really pay women less than why don’t they just hire all women to lower expenses? To play devil's advocate, it might just be that whoever's making these decisions is just so convinced that men are better they're prepared to pay more for them. No, that doesn't really pass a smell test. But yes, in general, earnings gap rather than pay gap, personal choice, etc. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/22 09:24 PM |
| 2 | THE BIG REVEAL. Texas A&M and OCR are engaged in a conspiracy to cover up Title IX violations at the school.What I see in what you're referring to as the story document is that this course continued in existence in some sense after the 2019 dates you discuss. For what it's worth, it still seems to exist: https://integrityftc.com/events/self-defense-for-women-2/ That said, I'm not sure if the "Integrity Firearm Training Center" is a part of the university and thus subject to the rules you're working with here. I'm not sure it's made clear whether the university is still making that women-only course pa… | /r/MensRights | 06/08/22 08:41 PM |
| 2 | THE BIG REVEAL. Texas A&M and OCR are engaged in a conspiracy to cover up Title IX violations at the school.In principle I agree, but if you're not going to publish the emails showing what's going on, it's hard to form an objective view of the situation. I guess you'll have to spend a bit of time redacting them (or publish and be damned). In the end they weren't required to end this course, they were simply required to admit men. Is that what they did? | /r/MensRights | 06/08/22 07:06 PM |
| 2 | THE BIG REVEAL. Texas A&M and OCR are engaged in a conspiracy to cover up Title IX violations at the school.So, I've skimmed the materials you linked, which look like PDF files, one seven pages long and one 29 pages long, just to be sure we're talking about the same thing. We agree the university should never have offered a segregated course, so I'm playing devil's advocate here - help me understand. Anyway - at first glance, it looks from this like the university offered the course, became aware it was noncompliant, and stopped offering it. The lawyer Ortiz then pointed out that it looked like they w… | /r/MensRights | 06/08/22 03:47 PM |
| 2 | Can men be oppressed?This sort of linguistic chicanery is a big part of the sort of politics we're here to oppose. A simpler example is the common assumption that successful women are successful because they're brilliant, whereas successful men are successful because they're evil. This arises from the very core of critical theory, leading to critical gender theory and critical social justice in general; this is the Frankfurt-school stuff which prioritises how people feel about things over how things actually are. It… | /r/MensRights | 06/08/22 11:00 AM |
| 6 | What is your response to "But men had done that to themselves!"Even my mother says this. "You do know that men are attacked much more than women, right?" "Ah, but that's by other men!" Well, I guess that makes it OK, then. That's my mother, talking to her son. The forces of hardline feminism happily laugh themselves silly at this sort of thing. When it gets to the point of making excuses for violence you have to ask what political reaction these people expect. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/22 10:53 AM |
| 1 | I need help figuring out where I went wrongI wouldn't even do this. If you can possibly do so, get out of that situation - find another job. If he's somehow managed to piss her off, he's a dead man walking. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/22 10:48 AM |
| 2 | I need help figuring out where I went wrongNever, ever, under any circumstances approach people at work. Yes, for much of recent history it's been common for people to meet at work and that's been fine and normal, but in 2022 it's very much no longer okay. Yes, that's ridiculous, but you have to protect yourself. Personally I think if management has become involved you're a dead man walking. Leave. Find something else. If it's a temporary summer thing there should be very little difficulty in doing that. I wasn't there and I don't know h… | /r/MensRights | 06/08/22 10:47 AM |
| 2 | In the USA how are things looking like in the future for men?I can't really comment on the American college situation as I'm not in that part of the world, but in terms of the general situation my impression is that it started getting really bad about ten years ago, and it's ramped up since then. I'm in my early forties, and when I was in education twenty-plus years ago it was just beginning - girls-only day in the computer room at school, and so on (result: entirely deserted computer room every Wednesday. Gather from that what you will.) What's new in th… | /r/MensRights | 06/08/22 10:36 AM |
| 1 | "Men should not be making laws about women's bodies" is full of fallaciesIt would help if politicians were better-informed and not so pathologically narcissistic, but OK. The point about poor arguments weakening, rather than strengthening, a case is a very important one and something that's constantly overlooked by people people commenting on issues addressed by critical social justice. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/22 10:14 AM |
| 19 | THE BIG REVEAL. Texas A&M and OCR are engaged in a conspiracy to cover up Title IX violations at the school.Am I to understand from this that an American university is being pursued for offering some sort of voluntary self-defence course open only to women? Christ, if you could pursue this sort of action in the UK it'd be a full time job! | /r/MensRights | 06/08/22 10:12 AM |
| 1 | There is a hypocrisy in straight women taking over gay barsThat's fine, but don't be surprised if people in general don't take it very well when you accuse them of not wanting to hang out. This happens with a lot of minority groups - there's two desires which can't both be satisfied simultaneously: - We're special, and we want to be treated differently and to have special exclusive things that are private to our in-group in order to demonstrate our uniqueness, and - We want to be treated precisely like everyone else, at our option, and if you don't do t… | /r/MensRights | 03/08/22 02:50 PM |
| -4 | There is a hypocrisy in straight women taking over gay barsI don't disagree in the broad strokes (I don't frequent bars of any kind, so I can't, really) but I would say that "robbing people of a space" is a slightly daft thing to worry about. I don't think anyone should be groping anyone else, unannounced, in a bar, under any circumstances. Presumably you can happily sit in a bar and have a drink and a chat with someone where there are straight people in just the same way I can do the same where there are gay people; I couldn't care less. So, I'm not su… | /r/MensRights | 03/08/22 11:01 AM |
| 6 | "Kill me now": Jealous Ex-Girlfriend attacks her boyfriend with highly concentrated sulfuric acid while he slept - The boyfriend Mark Van Dongen unfortunately made the decision to go ahead with euthanasia in January 2017, due to many physical and mental problems | Acid attacksThe video doesn't show the injuries. It does show what the acid did to the presumably-cellulose in the presumably-cotton bedlinen, which is pretty much what you'd expect sulphuric to do to a carbohydrate. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/22 10:40 PM |
| 8 | Just because I'm a trans woman, doesn't mean that I don't support men's rightsThe question you'd have to ask is how "why are you supporting men's rights" is a question any normal person should ask. Why wouldn't you support anyone's rights? I'd support the rights of the nastiest criminal to humane treatment in prison, fer chrissakes. Who the hell criticises someone for supporting rights? | /r/MensRights | 02/08/22 10:38 PM |
| 1 | MEETING THE ENEMY A feminist comes to terms with the Men's Rights movement - Cassie Jaye TEDxMarinthose three form maybe 15% of the population I doubt it's even that, but otherwise I agree wholeheartedly. There will always be a hardcore who are beyond reaching (though that's not a reason not to try). The problem, as has been clear for a long time, is not that the really unpleasant people are that common. That's never been the issue, on either side of the debate (are there really that many real, actual, outspoken racists or misogynists left?) The problem is that they've very carefully program… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/22 10:22 PM |
| 2 | MEETING THE ENEMY A feminist comes to terms with the Men's Rights movement - Cassie Jaye TEDxMarinIt's been posted a million times, but it's probably the most accessible speech I've heard on the subject. What astounds me is that there are people sat in the audience at the end pointedly not applauding her, still determined to find fault and have a problem with it. I'm not quite sure what sort of approach we can take to people like that. You've got to be pretty hardcore to let that whole speech bounce off your brain. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/22 12:13 PM |
| 1 | "White men can't experience racism"In the end it just becomes a semantic argument about what racism means. That matters to the extent that the rest of the world agrees on the definition. Personally I'd avoid getting involved in an endless debate over the meaning of words, which in the end is somewhat in the eye of the beholder (or more accurately the ear of the listener) and consider the acceptability of the behaviour. I find words like "bigotry" and "prejudice" are much less easily redefined to suit one's own cause. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/22 01:53 PM |
| 2 | We are going to have an epidemic of Depressed women in the next decade or soTend to agree. One of the reasons I'm particularly interested in this area is because of some experiences my wife has had in encounters with young women who want to do the very stereotypically masculine job she does, and some similar things I've seen in my more mainstream but still somewhat guy-centric career. Both have been completely open to women for decades, but a lot of these young women have been thoroughly convinced they're going to face constant unending prejudice that means they'll neve… | /r/MensRights | 31/07/22 11:51 PM |
| 0 | We are going to have an epidemic of Depressed women in the next decade or soFurther to earlier. As I say I suspect you're right at least in part, but I suppose this whole point could be dismissed as being presumptive of the idea that no woman could possibly be happy without a man. In reality it'll probably be a bit of both, I guess! | /r/MensRights | 31/07/22 01:27 PM |
| 16 | There is No Gender Wage GapHonestly I think this has been talked about enough and most of us are familiar with the arguments. I think most of us are familiar with the difference between a wage gap and an earnings gap. Most of the statistics I've seen suggest there is a small but genuine wage gap in advanced economies which is unexplained, and might be due to prejudice, depending what you mean by prejudice, or it might be due to a bunch of other things. Often this is 5% or less. An earnings gap is due to people's choices a… | /r/MensRights | 31/07/22 01:19 PM |
| 3 | We are going to have an epidemic of Depressed women in the next decade or soI'm not sure this is true in the general case. It may be somewhat true, but I think the people who're actually likely to be depressed by critical social justice in general are mainly those people who are most into it, who in my experience are a majority (but not nearly exclusively) female. That doesn't mean that a majority of women are into this stuff, which is a very important distinction to make. What I think we will see is a lot of very pissed off women who have reached middle age, desperatel… | /r/MensRights | 31/07/22 11:29 AM |
| 6 | Be careful at the gymThe recent spate of posters on public transport in London did suggest to a lot of people that there is some sort of law against looking at people but there isn't. Almost anything can be a crime under UK law because of the extremely broad definition of harrassment, and that's not good, but there's no specific law which makes looking at people a crime and it is not helpful to suggest there is. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/22 11:24 AM |
| 2 | How do you percieve Women's modern problems?Based on both my experience and particularly that of my wife, the biggest problem women face in the developed world is being told constantly that they're going to face horrible prejudice and discrimination when they aren't, at least not to anything like the extent people claim. That's causing them to self-select out of things they want to do which is an absolutely tragic betrayal of the entire progressive project. I could give you a dozen examples. The other risk is that identity politics makes … | /r/MensRights | 30/07/22 09:25 AM |
| 1 | I labeled someone as a sexual abuser when it wasn’t the caseYes, I would. What have they said? It's a shame you felt the need to remove the original text as I don't think there was anything wrong with it, and it puts the rest of the discussion rather out of context. It's not like you're identifiable from it. Maybe reinstate it? (Oh - edit - apparently moderators removed it. I have no idea why.) | /r/MensRights | 30/07/22 09:13 AM |
| 3 | I labeled someone as a sexual abuser when it wasn’t the caseI would imagine most sane jurisdictions would consider the described situation to be sexual assault, and any reasonable person (male or female) would take the same view. I won't make excuses for it for a heartbeat, but I guess in extremis, to really stretch a point, if someone did that once it could be seen as a horribly misjudged attempt at foreplay and you might be inclined to ignore it as a bit of stupidity, but to do it repeatedly? That's not OK and I'd have thought that was blindingly obvio… | /r/MensRights | 28/07/22 10:24 AM |
| 8 | Help! I’m a father in need, going to trial court for custody. What are the best questions to ask during cross examination?Get a lawyer at any cost. If you try to oppose a real lawyer yourself, you will almost certainly lose, and you will probably lose for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with the facts of the case. | /r/MensRights | 28/07/22 10:16 AM |
| 2 | Serious Question here, why do we allow people to argue here with views that oppose our rights?Because refusing to listen to the opposing point of view is the sign of someone who isn't sure of their position. Also, I quite value being aware of the opposing point of view. It's not always completely mad (though the people who post on reddit are probably madder than the societal average). I genuinely want to know what both sides think so I can hope to form a view that's likely to satisfy everyone. It's an education. If we listen to the opposing point of view, we're more likely to be correct … | /r/MensRights | 28/07/22 10:14 AM |
| 134 | Why do feminists talk about cutting dicks off?A lot of the problem with all this stuff is not really that there's large numbers of people who think like this. The issue really is that sane, normal people don't say "hang on a minute..." I find myself saying "hang on a minute" a lot, these days. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/22 10:07 AM |
| 2 | Women unfairly failed their driving tests because the pass rate is higher in males. Gender should be taken into account according to the article ie women should have a lower bar needed to pass than men.I tend to agree. I would, though, say that the fact this article got published, with this girl's airheaded opinions, says something about society, or at least about the BBC. | /r/MensRights | 25/07/22 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Women unfairly failed their driving tests because the pass rate is higher in males. Gender should be taken into account according to the article ie women should have a lower bar needed to pass than men.Yes. Everyone has testosterone. I'd have thought that was common knowledge. What's your point? | /r/MensRights | 25/07/22 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Women unfairly failed their driving tests because the pass rate is higher in males. Gender should be taken into account according to the article ie women should have a lower bar needed to pass than men.To put it in simpler terms. Lots of people agree with anything said in the name of social justice, even completely insane things. It's so bad, even people who were enemies now agree it's bad. | /r/MensRights | 25/07/22 02:05 PM |
| 3 | Women unfairly failed their driving tests because the pass rate is higher in males. Gender should be taken into account according to the article ie women should have a lower bar needed to pass than men.Am I the only person who's mildly shocked that the main import of this thread, on a forum widely derided as horribly prejudiced, is to object to the article, and to argue that that women are perfectly competent drivers at any time of the month? This stuff is eating itself so enthusiastically it's gone entirely around in a circle to meet itself coming back the other way, to the point where everyone is starting to object to it as a corrosive blot of evil gnawing at the very soul of society, mens' … | /r/MensRights | 25/07/22 11:52 AM |
| -1 | Women who say they want absolutely nothing to do with men are heralded as stunning and brave. Men who say they want absolutely nothing to do with women are deemed toxic and misogynist. Got it.This seems like a bit of an overstatement to me. I'm not in the USA - I think this is very much an American thing, and things may differ there - but I don't particularly see women being feted for a lack of independence. I think perhaps there's some difference between "being celebrated as strong" and "not being laughed at." I think men are probably laughed at more for a lack of independence and that's not fair, but eesh, I'm not sure this sort of overstatement helps us. Or, again, maybe this is a… | /r/MensRights | 25/07/22 09:18 AM |
| 48 | Women unfairly failed their driving tests because the pass rate is higher in males. Gender should be taken into account according to the article ie women should have a lower bar needed to pass than men.What's the logical conclusion - women can't drive while they're pre-menstrual? Olivia is an extremely talented and outspoken misogynist, isn't she! | /r/MensRights | 24/07/22 10:32 PM |
| 7 | Women unfairly failed their driving tests because the pass rate is higher in males. Gender should be taken into account according to the article ie women should have a lower bar needed to pass than men.There's all kinds of things one could say about this, from the obliviousness of Olivia to the fact that she's tacitly pushing the (incorrect) idea that women are worse drivers "because hormones" to the way the BBC happily publishes that opinion without apparent irony. But hang on. By that measure, what makes men into risk-takers? Testosterone. Which is a hormone. | /r/MensRights | 24/07/22 09:46 PM |
| 1 | If men and women are equal in society, how come men still have to do all the work when it comes to dating?Speaking as someone who's in his mid-40s and in a very valued long-term relationship, I'd say a lot of this is changing. There are women out there who have some self-respect and want to pay for their own damn lunches, to be a buddy, a confidant, a friend and a companion, to support you in much the same way most men want to support and befriend the women they love. They do exist. Even if you have to find one using a long-range telescope, I promise you, they exist. One thing I agree with hardline … | /r/MensRights | 24/07/22 11:30 AM |
| 1 | Why is there so much hate for this sub?Couldn't agree more. I think I've tried hard to inject some moderation into r/mensrights and I've occasionally had similarly negative reactions to what I view as reasonable, moderate attempts to even understand the opposing point of view, regardless of whether we agree with it. I've had a lot of people yell at me for doing that. The downvotes on u/gamerlololdude's post actually answer the question as to why there's bad blood: because moderation and understanding does still get shit on here. Not … | /r/MensRights | 24/07/22 10:05 AM |
| 1 | I used to be a feminist and now I dont know why I wasTrue enough. I could give you a couple of names, come to think of it. I'm not quite sure how they square that with themselves internally, but there you go. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/22 09:31 AM |
| 10 | I'm so tired of seeing "Educate your son" posts in the media.Fine, so make sure you state it like that. Jeez, I can't shift the feeling half the problems that exist in this area are down to this sort of grammatical laziness. If ever there was a time to be clear and precise it's on massively politicised issues of civil rights. | /r/MensRights | 22/07/22 09:46 PM |
| 201 | I'm so tired of seeing "Educate your son" posts in the media.I hesitate to say it even here, but on the basis that certain demographics are arrested for crimes more than others, nobody would ever say "educate insert-demographic-here not to be criminal," because it would be inexcusably prejudicial and bigoted. You could make similar points about other demographics and the less-than-lovely things which are statistically true about them, and it'd be just as wrong. So why is this OK? | /r/MensRights | 22/07/22 03:25 PM |
| 7 | I used to be a feminist and now I dont know why I wasPeterson is interesting. I don't agree with everything he says, but he's a model of not usually losing control to anger in the face of extreme provocation. Probably the most interesting thing about him - or more accurately the most interesting thing about people's reaction to him - is that his words generally don't have any hidden or coded meanings. A lot of the politics we're here to oppose is based on assuming the worst of people just like Peterson based on the assumption of hidden or coded me… | /r/MensRights | 22/07/22 03:23 PM |
| 5 | I used to be a feminist and now I dont know why I wasI've been attacked on the basis someone here thought I was behaving like a stereotypical hardline feminist, and I'm a guy. Don't sweat it. It's the standard insult from more, eheh, opinionated posters. You're fine. We need more moderate thinkers on both sides of this debate. | /r/MensRights | 22/07/22 03:19 PM |
| 18 | This post is not really about Mens rights, but quite frankly I'm terrified.What you say is true, although I'm not sure that's really the core problem. The issue, as I see it, is not so much the behaviour of individuals as the reaction of society to that behaviour. Bad behaviour of men in a relationship is harshly punished on little evidence. Bad behaviour of women is not, which doesn't exactly incentivise good behaviour. I think this is making it worse than it needs to be and tends to justify u/Manux005's concerns. | /r/MensRights | 22/07/22 11:08 AM |
| 5 | I used to be a feminist and now I dont know why I wasYou probably described yourself as a feminist for some fairly supportable reasons. At the most basic level, if you ask anyone what a feminist is, they'll tell you the whole thing is purely, only, and solely about equality. If that's as far as it goes, why wouldn't you sign up? Under those rules, most of us are feminists, though a lot of us probably wouldn't choose the term by default because it's become so loaded. That's not what feminism often means in 2022. You also probably grew up in a world… | /r/MensRights | 22/07/22 10:30 AM |
| 3 | Does anyone know what I can do about patent misandry in UK advertisement?The answer is that I very rarely see sexist hate anywhere other than the seedier corners of the internet, so there's really not much I can do about it. That said, it's a poster themed around English football (isn't it?) which absolutely does attract the sort of... oh, screw it, let's engage in snobbery... the sort of blue-collar attitude that might easily harbour some genuinely unpleasant, prejudicial attitudes. It's still a poster that's likely to make a lot of men (and a fair few women, frankl… | /r/MensRights | 22/07/22 01:18 AM |
| 4 | What made you wanna stand up for mens rights/join this sub.I'm self-employed, which removes a lot of the problems. That said, I still need clients who are willing to deal with me, and though I dislike the term, the fastest way to explain it is that I am a straight, white, able-bodied, middle-class man in a painfully woke field, so my career remains at risk. What I meant by "action any of this" is how we execute any sort of fightback at a societal level. Honestly, I do not want to see a world in which all of the backlash on this builds up to the point wh… | /r/MensRights | 22/07/22 01:15 AM |
| 6 | What made you wanna stand up for mens rights/join this sub.I feel your pain, and I don't even have kids. If you figure out how we're actually supposed to action any of this in such a hostile political climate, let me know... | /r/MensRights | 21/07/22 08:00 PM |
| 0 | Do feminists even realize how narcissistic they sound?Well, given how often I see feminists claiming MRA's are all misogynistic incels I think that the terms MRA and Feminist SHOULD be controlled as there are obviously misandrists who loudly proclaim to be feminists to use feminism as a shield to protect them against criticism for their misandry. Yes, there absolutely are. There are people misusing the term to hide awful stuff. I agree completely. What I'd say is that we can help ourselves by being specific about what we're criticising. One of the … | /r/MensRights | 21/07/22 03:03 PM |
| -2 | Do feminists even realize how narcissistic they sound?I'm going to keep saying it. Anyone can self-identify as a feminist. It is not a controlled term like "doctor." By many measures I'm a feminist and you're a feminist and so are lots of other people if we're into strict equality, as many of us probably are. Yes, I'm fully aware that it's very odd to call something "feminism" if it isn't principally concerned with women, and I'm not sure why we don't just use the term "egalitarianism," but them's the breaks. Unfortunately, no matter what we might … | /r/MensRights | 21/07/22 11:20 AM |
| 4 | Feeling frustrated and confusedI don't think you're alone in a lot of this, particularly being concerned that a lot of people who post here, who would probably think of themselves as activists, take things way too far. I share your concerns that the politics we're discussing are causing massive amounts of unnecessary unpleasantness and that even where there are still concerns about everyone being treated fairly, the solutions which are being proposed are not necessarily fair, effective, or well thought out. Something I've sai… | /r/MensRights | 21/07/22 09:55 AM |
| 1 | How are men supposed to break out of inceldom when we don't even have the right to interact with women.You seem to think that men are entitled to a relationship with women and that is just not the case. I've said nothing of the sort, nor even vaguely hinted at such a belief. To restate things as simply as possible, my concern is that both the following statements are simultaneously true at least some of the time, and much more often than they should be: - Men are required to make romantic propositions or risk being socially isolated. - Men are required not to make romantic propositions or risk be… | /r/MensRights | 20/07/22 11:53 PM |
| 11 | Women already live longer than men. What more do you want?To u/ThreeBaggsFull's point below, I hope everyone's health improves, but the headline and the way the story is framed is hilariously inept and tells us a lot about the laziness of modern journalism. The writer seems keen to whitewash the article with approved politics having given no consideration to what's actually being said or the effect it's likely to have on people. For a start, the headline at the very least risks suggesting that there isn't already "mandatory training" for doctors in wom… | /r/MensRights | 20/07/22 10:37 AM |
| 0 | How are men supposed to break out of inceldom when we don't even have the right to interact with women.a random romantic proposition in the street Sure, but that's not what we're talking about (it's not what I'm talking about, anyway). Title of the thread talks about the "right to interact with women" without specifying circumstances. You can argue about specific bits of behaviour in specific circumstances and I might agree. Still, I think there are reasonable questions to ask about how men, who are generally the people who have to initiate relationships, are supposed to do that under circumstanc… | /r/MensRights | 20/07/22 10:13 AM |
| 4 | How are men supposed to break out of inceldom when we don't even have the right to interact with women.Can't agree with the downvotes; what u/Imaginary-Luck-8671 says is reasonable. As ever, criminals are the ones who don't much care about the law. | /r/MensRights | 19/07/22 08:36 PM |
| 1 | How are men supposed to break out of inceldom when we don't even have the right to interact with women.Okay, could we maybe compromise at "common courtesy?" I take the position that absolutely everyone owes absolutely everyone common courtesy unless some reason otherwise has been established, and even then it's rarely very useful to start being overtly unpleasant. What we're discussing here are circumstances where: - Most reasonable observers would agree the man has done nothing so bad as to warrant anything other than a polite refusal from the woman, and - The woman has enthusiastically seized t… | /r/MensRights | 19/07/22 08:32 PM |
| 9 | How are men supposed to break out of inceldom when we don't even have the right to interact with women.You're right to an extent. I think the problem here - and the problem u/cokelite is trying to highlight - is that the consequences for a man who approaches a woman who isn't interested have become, to put it mildly, unreasonably extreme. The word "consequences" is beloved of the current politics, where it's sometimes used to excuse the most outrageous overreactions, and that's what I think people are concerned about. A young man who approaches a young woman now risks being accused of almost any … | /r/MensRights | 19/07/22 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone else feel like Men can't have any interests?Oh I'm not worried on my own account, thanks for asking! But yes, in general, it's almost as if we need a variety of people in the world! | /r/MensRights | 19/07/22 03:15 PM |
| 3 | Girl Power in Movies Kinda Sucks NowI suggest older movies. If you haven't seen them, and can stand a bit of a scare, watch Alien and Aliens, which depict their lead female as intelligent, practical, capable and effective. Definitely watch the director's cut of the second film, Aliens, which (without wanting to spoil too much) plays heavily on a traditionally feminine societal role without being unsubtle or sermonising. The original release deletes some of that storyline, to the film's overall detriment. Almost any pre-2000, or ev… | /r/MensRights | 19/07/22 01:17 PM |
| 1 | Men are abused by women at an equal rate of women by menThe thing I don't get is why anyone would want to prevent a romantic partner from having a job. Er, more money in the pot? More dinners out? Better time off? Maybe I'm coming at this from a direction of prosaic normality, which I'm sure somehow makes me a bad person these days, but I guess that's probably an advertisement for healthy, long-term relationships. | /r/MensRights | 19/07/22 01:10 PM |
| 4 | Does anyone else feel like Men can't have any interests?You know what really fucks me off about nerd bullying, from anyone of any gender, but particularly from the younger generation? The fact that they often do it using social media. On their phones. Using code. All of which were created entirely by nerds. I'm a bit old for all that stuff and I don't use social media anyway, other than here, but I've seen youngsters in training have a horrible time. | /r/MensRights | 19/07/22 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Women Transitions Into A Man And Doesn't Like Being A ManWhat you're seeing there is to a large extent amplified by culture shock, I suspect. It's not as bad as all that. It's not great, and it should be better, but I don't think we have much chance of improving things in a society which is drifting ineluctably toward a redefinition of "man" as "bad person" and which probably interprets this sort of social shunning of men as necessary, desirable, and triumphant. | /r/MensRights | 19/07/22 01:02 PM |
| 97 | Simple rules for protecting yourself in the workplaceThe one you're missing is avoid being alone with any one other person. Honestly, better to apply it to both men and women these days, but the risk factor is much larger for women. | /r/MensRights | 19/07/22 01:04 AM |
| 1 | As a woman, I feel like all the women I meet who openly hate/bash men ALWAYS happen to share a lot of physical/character traits. Do men notice this too?Actually yes. There's the stereotypical rainbow-haired social media activist who's usually pretty ignorable because they're regurgitating such predictable bilge, but they do have quite a bit of influence en masse. These people make me think first of hypocrisy, because they're almost inevitably people living off someone else's money, using an iPhone, in a major western country, and are thus among the top few most privileged percentage points of modern humanity by any reasonable standard. I skip a… | /r/MensRights | 18/07/22 02:32 PM |
| 11 | Does anyone else feel like Men can't have any interests?True to an extent. I'm a huge technology nerd - it's my living, to an extent, but I love it. If a woman had my interests she'd be praised for being a trailblazing woman in tech. I'm derided as a nerd. I mean, it's not the end of the world, it doesn't bother me, and I'm not going to pretend it's a life-altering issue. I'm doing a lot better than a lot of people I went to school with. Still, there's certainly some truth in this. I guess one thing that's worth adding here is that there's also some … | /r/MensRights | 18/07/22 11:00 AM |
| 2 | What’s it called when women or minority groups tell men that: White men have called us this or that in the past, so now it’s okay for us to tell them what to say or how to behave!Hypocrisy. | /r/MensRights | 17/07/22 01:19 PM |
| 3 | My male friend just received a reply from a job posting that they're looking for a female, sorry but not sorryThis is already illegal in many places and they're often quite upfront about it. Being aware of it happening, having evidence of it and being in a jurisdiction where it's illegal is irrelevant if the authorities turn a blind eye to it. Which they invariably do. Workers' rights organisations such as unions also generally ignore it. I don't think many people actually agree with or support this stuff. Most people ignore it on the basis it isn't that common (I think it's becoming fairly common) and … | /r/MensRights | 17/07/22 12:56 PM |
| 2 | My male friend just received a reply from a job posting that they're looking for a female, sorry but not sorryIt's becoming increasingly normal. I'm not sure what to say about it at this point. A nasty little example of this happening is a large part of the reason I'm on this subreddit. File the complaint. It won't get you anywhere, but it'll at least start building up the opposition. | /r/MensRights | 17/07/22 12:55 PM |
| 5 | From a Woman; I don't know why this group popped up on my feed. But I hope you all get the fair societal treatment you want.This is certainly very true. There is some legitimacy to it in that probably the majority of direct prejudice faced by men is promulgated by, and justified by, hardline, extremist feminism; it's difficult to divorce the two. It's dangerous because a lot of people describe themselves as feminists without holding these extremist views and it tends to stoke division and unpleasantness where that's the last thing we need. My prediction for the future is that the hardline element will actually end up… | /r/MensRights | 17/07/22 12:08 PM |
| 0 | Wife just asked if I would be opposed to paid menstrual leave. I'm indirectly opposed. I'm curious what do you think.The problem with this is that it legitimises - in fact, institutionalises - the idea that women are less capable of work than men, which in the general case isn't true. Some women have really bad periods and if that's the case, deal with it as part of normal sick leave. The problem here is that we're seeing a grab for some new right or benefit they haven't thought through. It's already a solved problem - if you need time off for a medical reason then that's sick leave. And if you do get that new… | /r/MensRights | 16/07/22 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Is it possible that a lot of people on this sub have an exaggerated perception of feminism?I think it's very easy for social media (and this is social media, I think) to blow things massively out of proportion, yes. My suspicion is that not many people in the world actually like or wish to implement the hardline feminist approach to this. That's not the problem. The problem is that there are a large number of people who will tolerate the hardline feminist approach, enable it, and vote it up as an act of groupthink, pack mentality, or so as not to seem like the bad guy. There will alwa… | /r/MensRights | 16/07/22 04:23 PM |
| 1 | The 30 articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and their application to men's human rightsThis is all great, but it isn't really the problem. Critical social justice has been fairly successful in controlling the definition of words like "equal," so that rules like the ones given above appear to support, or even require, anything the CSJ enthusiast wants to claim. As such quoting the rules at people doesn't really help. If you define the word "man" to mean "bad person," which they more or less have, suddenly everything seems fair and reasonable. At risk of invoking Godwin, I know of a… | /r/MensRights | 15/07/22 08:40 PM |
| 4 | Does anyone remember the Male curfew here in the UKMy wife and I are in early middle age and we have a cat. You keep talking like this, I'm going to start to wonder who she's going to love more in the near future... | /r/MensRights | 15/07/22 11:23 AM |
| 5 | I was a juror in a case where the prosecutor admitted that he prosecuted a man because he is a manI tend to agree, although none of that implies that the UK is much better. As recently as 2018 there's been criticism of the number of rape trials that collapse, which was more or less happening because they were pressuring for more rape cases to actually go to trial. So, they pushed more cases to trial whether they were well-evidenced or not, which pisses off more or less everyone, because it wastes public money, reduces the conviction rate for rape, and puts alleged victims through the mill, e… | /r/MensRights | 15/07/22 11:18 AM |
| 5 | Does anyone remember the Male curfew here in the UKI didn't know this until recently, but actually she can. It's a very recent development so it's not widely known-about. The House of Lords (Expulsion and Suspension) Act 2015 allows them to throw people out for breaching the Code of Conduct for Members of the House of Lords. Surprisingly, that code does not say very much specifically about equality and diversity, but it does require that "holders of public office must act and take decisions impartially, fairly and on merit, using the best eviden… | /r/MensRights | 15/07/22 11:07 AM |
| 4 | I worked in an office for 2 years with 24 other employees, and I was the only man.I remember once being on a shuttle bus back from an airport which broke down to the point where the door wouldn't open. There were only half a dozen people on board, but one of the more emotionally labile passengers immediately broke down in tears at the prospect of perhaps being trapped aboard this vehicle. "Not to worry," I said. "There's a fire escape at the back." So we clambered out of the fire escape, which involved exiting through a window and down a rather abbreviated ladder on the outsi… | /r/MensRights | 15/07/22 10:55 AM |
| 17 | The war against men and boys continues in Australia, identifying gamers a subculture of white masculinity that is open to radicalisation by the far-rightWhat's potentially radicalising people toward the far right is the subculture of anti-male prejudice that's putting up posters and making outspoken statements which (to put it very, very mildly) imply blame of all men for things they absolutely haven't done. There is a huge arrogance implicit in a point of view that does that and seeks to tell people how they should react to it. Apparently people shouldn't feel blamed. Personally I think it's inevitable that a large number of people will feel bl… | /r/MensRights | 15/07/22 08:48 AM |
| 2 | Does anyone remember the Male curfew here in the UKI posted about this a couple of weeks ago. This did happen a while ago but somehow this woman still has her job. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/22 08:32 AM |
| 4 | I was a juror in a case where the prosecutor admitted that he prosecuted a man because he is a manAt the end of the day someone has to make a decision and it's very often a judgment call. Usually it's the job of these people (district attorneys in the USA, the crown prosecution service in the UK) to decide what's actually worth taking to court, usually on the basis of the likelihood of actually getting a conviction. This is why so many rape cases don't end up being prosecuted - not because nobody's taking women seriously, as is often claimed, but because they're just incredibly hard to prose… | /r/MensRights | 15/07/22 08:12 AM |
| 1 | Book on how to use false allegations to ruin a man’s life I don't really know the best 'way' to achieve it is, without making one group or another feel as though they're suffering. Neither do I. If we're converging on the conclusion that this stuff is incredibly difficult and complicated, I couldn't agree more. In terms of solutions? Jeez. I don't know. I fear the biggest issue is that it's very difficult to tell how bad the problem is or if the problem's solved, because of this: What is wrong with allowing them into the workforce in a number that … | /r/MensRights | 15/07/22 12:34 AM |
| 3 | Beware the Gender Gap Index 2022 is outThis reminds me of the estimates of racial equality in the USA which gave the NFL a high rank for being nearly 70% "of color" in a country that's only 40% non-white to begin with. | /r/MensRights | 14/07/22 11:39 PM |
| 6 | Gender Pay Gap is...BSWhat I've read is that in a lot of first world economies, going through the statistics often does reveal a small residual pay differential that isn't easily explained by anything other than outright prejudice, but it's not much - often on the order of five per cent or so. These are complex statistics and there's a certain amount of interpretation involved in that. What worries me most of all is when I see young women self-selecting out of things they desperately want to do because they're convin… | /r/MensRights | 13/07/22 08:52 AM |
| 2 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.I think u/DavidByron2 could have put it a little more gently, but it's hard to disagree in the broad strokes. As I said above I would never refer to myself as either a feminist or a men's rights activist because the terms are now so loaded, and I don't want to be associated with the worst of what they've done. I don't think anyone needs the label, to be honest. I'd rather have a chat with someone about what their views are. | /r/MensRights | 13/07/22 01:44 AM |
| 2 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.I should probably preface this by saying that I'm not very interested in endless semantic arguments that, by their nature, can't ever really reach a useful conclusion; some people will claim to be certain things and we can't stop them. Suffice to say that I would hesitate to refer to myself as either a feminist or a men's rights activist because both terms are now so hopelessly loaded for many people (I might go with "strict egalitarian," but even that's easily misinterpreted). I hesitate to get… | /r/MensRights | 13/07/22 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Book on how to use false allegations to ruin a man’s lifeYou're not telling one guy he can't have a job because of things he didn't do to people he's never met To put it bluntly, I don't know if you've ever had hiring responsibility, but I have. If you want to implement positive discrimination, at some point you are going to have to preferentially pick someone for something based on a protected characteristic, otherwise I wouldn't say you're really implementing positive discrimination. There is no having our cake and eating it on this. So yes, that is… | /r/MensRights | 13/07/22 01:15 AM |
| 3 | Book on how to use false allegations to ruin a man’s lifemen having unpleasant experiences with losing jobs to women...how often is that happening versus how often women lost jobs to men? I don't think most men are very concerned about losing jobs to women so long as that happens under fair and reasonable circumstances. In the same way, if I found that a woman of childbearing age was being rejected from employment on that basis I would disagree with it just as much as you would, and I suspect most people here would agree. The issue you're going to fac… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Girlfriend tells me she hates men; it hurts me, but what am I supposed to do?Run, don't walk, to the nearest exit. If she's had a bad time in the past then that's awful and as a potential romantic partner then you can and should at least offer become part of the solution to that. Everyone fails to respect someone else's boundaries at some point, everyone disagrees, everyone has things to discuss, and yes, everyone has their demons. But if she's accepted this is getting to you and won't desist, that's a problem. Outspoken anti-male prejudice is a character flaw. I'd be ni… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 10:38 AM |
| 6 | Book on how to use false allegations to ruin a man’s lifeI think the reason you're getting pushback on this is mostly to do with the claim of eighty per cent ownership. Let's reflect that most of the men who are reading your comment are not wealthy, not CEOs and not senior politicians. I don't want to make excuses for anyone, but consider that some of them are likely to have been people who have had very unpleasant experiences with women - losing careers, their children, their freedom, under circumstances you and I might agree that wasn't right. Those… | /r/MensRights | 11/07/22 11:40 PM |
| 1 | Sexism- It’s all men’s fault (U.K. advert)I said enlightening, in that people who may not have looked outside the political system of the USA might learn something from looking at other places. They might not learn anything nice, but it's informative. I'm not proposing any particular course of action, and certainly not a system of government like that in France (though beware Le Pen). I'm illustrating the point that there are political approaches that are a light year to the left of anything the USA is ever likely to generate, and not n… | /r/MensRights | 11/07/22 11:17 PM |
| 2 | Men Going Their Own Way are an 'Aromantic' minorityIn a general sense I'm not sure how young men, who are generally required to initiate relationships, are supposed to do so in a way that would be considered univerally appropriate by everyone. People have asked this question of hardline feminists and the response generally comes down to a triviality along the lines of "just don't be a creep." I think if everyone was completely clear on what's acceptable behaviour, then starting a relationship with someone would be a lot easier than it is. | /r/MensRights | 11/07/22 10:10 PM |
| 7 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.I'm going to keep saying it. The word "feminist" is not a controlled term and anyone is free to self-identify as a feminist. Some people who do that hold entirely reasonable views. Some don't. The history of it is somewhat murky but that's largely irrelevant to the situation now. What matters here is that there are people around who will happily call themselves feminists who we really don't want or need to upset; it doesn't help us to do that. Yes, there are some people who describe themselves (… | /r/MensRights | 11/07/22 10:04 PM |
| 6 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.I dunno, I've seen a few people who were perhaps asking deliberately simplistic questions. I think the best response is just to answer them. What else are you going to do. Beyond that I don't actually see much deliberate shit-stirring. | /r/MensRights | 11/07/22 09:57 PM |
| 9 | Woman thinks men can’t be stay at home husbands and are meant to workWhile I can't disagree with the general direction you're going in here, this sort of response is why it's not a very good idea to speak in general about a political movement when you're talking to just one member of it. Better to ascribe the statements you're quoting to people who've actually said them. Barely affects your argument in this case. For what it's worth, if we had kids, I'd be the stay at home husband as my wife makes way more money than me, though I think we'd both probably like to … | /r/MensRights | 11/07/22 09:53 PM |
| 2 | Book on how to use false allegations to ruin a man’s lifeHave to say, my first reaction to this is that the very hardest core of feminism seems more than happy to exist in a constant state of frustration and victimhood, and as such has more or less destroyed its own life chances without anyone having to lift a finger to make it happen. | /r/MensRights | 11/07/22 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Boy, 14, is stabbed to death in Manhattan subway station by three teen girls.Is there any indication that this is in any sense connected to gender? | /r/MensRights | 11/07/22 01:33 AM |
| 1 | Sexism- It’s all men’s fault (U.K. advert)I had to check twice to make sure what you've written there wasn't one of my own posts. Yes, there is a huge risk that this sort of publicity actually creates extremists as much as it addresses the problems they create. I have two main concerns here: first, that this may become a self-fulfilling prophecy. If we allow a society that constantly expresses this sort of anti-male sentiment, it's going to create more and more genuinely unpleasant men who really do have the views that many hardline fem… | /r/MensRights | 11/07/22 01:28 AM |
| 4 | my sister"Do you hate me?" "Do you hate dad?" Or insert other male acquaintance you know she likes and would hesitate to diss. | /r/MensRights | 11/07/22 12:25 AM |
| 1 | So there is a poor soul trying to talk to feminist in twoxchromosomes. He's trying to create a sub where discussion between genders can be regulated. He's finding we're a lot nicer than expected.In practice, perhaps. As I've said elsewhere on r/mensrights in the last half hour, a lot of this just ends up being a discussion of semantics, as you suggest. Equality is fine until it becomes (what is often meant by) equity, and then you're arguing about what equity means. It's almost as if it's better to treat people on their individual merits. But yes, in general, I don't think I've ever used the word "semantics" as much as I have on this subreddit. | /r/MensRights | 11/07/22 12:00 AM |
| 2 | Sexism- It’s all men’s fault (U.K. advert)This is an important differentiation that a lot of Americans don't get. You have democrats, who by the standards of almost anywhere else in the first world, are very right wing. Then you have republicans, who are insane. This is why the USA in general sometimes gets the evil eye for being a bit scary right wing, particularly in the southern, religious, tea-party-member states. For anyone who wants to be able to claim to hold considered, moderate views, stepping back from an American-centric worl… | /r/MensRights | 10/07/22 11:53 PM |
| 3 | So there is a poor soul trying to talk to feminist in twoxchromosomes. He's trying to create a sub where discussion between genders can be regulated. He's finding we're a lot nicer than expected.I wholeheartedly support this sort of idea. It's been clear something like this needs to happen for a long time. The impression I get is that a lot of the most extreme disagreements that happen are largely semantic in nature and the only solution to that is dialogue. It pains me to say this but dialogue is likely to remain very difficult when people are willing to claim that anyone who posts on r/mensrights doesn't "see [women] as human." If I saw that sort of commentary here, aimed at men, I wo… | /r/MensRights | 10/07/22 11:48 PM |
| 4 | So there is a poor soul trying to talk to feminist in twoxchromosomes. He's trying to create a sub where discussion between genders can be regulated. He's finding we're a lot nicer than expected.I've said it a million times: the word "feminist" is not a controlled term. Anyone is free to refer to him or herself as a feminist and not everyone who self-describes in that way will have the same beliefs. This is one of the most pernicious problems we have. I try never to generalise about women, feminists, men or men's rights people, but even then, referring to "hardline feminists" is barely an improvement. It leads to people feeling attacked and alienated on both sides of the argument. Yes, … | /r/MensRights | 10/07/22 11:11 PM |
| 2 | Sexism- It’s all men’s fault (U.K. advert)The problem is that I don't see a lot of whatever-they-mean-by-hate directed against women. I just don't choose to spend time with people who would be deliberately and knowingly unfair to other people in a way that could reasonably be characterised as "hate", whether that's men on women or women on men or anyone on anyone. I think this is one of the bigger problems with this sort of politics. If you're a female soccer player, I wouldn't find it that hard to believe that you're going to face some… | /r/MensRights | 10/07/22 11:27 AM |
| 7 | Enough. Stop. I am so sick of having this messaging rubbed in my face. It's EVERYWHERE.The main issue with this is it's so vague. What story about women? Even if you read into it what they want you to read into it, that is, that women are a perpetually downtrodden and overlooked part of society, it's actually a bad idea even for women, even in the short term. It plays into a victim narrative that is at least a lot less true than is often assumed. Even in situations where it is true - where some women, or a woman, has been treated unfairly - you'd need to be a lot more specific abo… | /r/MensRights | 09/07/22 10:06 PM |
| 1 | if women are allowed to abort a kid or put it out for adoption, why do we have to pay child support?As happens quite a lot when we discuss this issue on r/mensrights, you're conflating abortion with killing when a majority of people simply don't have that interpretation, which doesn't help. But to the wider point, no, it's not a fine explanation, and no, it doesn't justify anything. The fact that we're forced into this situation doesn't make it nice and neither you nor I has to like it. I don't think most women particularly like it, either; I know someone who's had two kids and let's just say … | /r/MensRights | 09/07/22 08:27 AM |
| 1 | r/men's rights is the complete opposite community of this. Both of you are constantly arguing. I propose that every one in a while, every single member of each subreddit will visit the other one, no matter what. You don't have to agree, but you would listen and consider a opposing opinion, unbiased.This is a very good idea and I applaud u/Longjumping-Thing227's initiative. I regularly read subreddits with which I disagree - part of the reason I'm posting on r/mensrights is because I too often see extremism here that I don't agree with. I'm here to inject a big dose of moderation and I get the impression that's what you're trying to do too. That's a very good thing. It's my observation that a lot of the vitriol and unpleasantness in all this arises from what are basically semantic arguments… | /r/MensRights | 08/07/22 09:26 PM |
| -2 | if women are allowed to abort a kid or put it out for adoption, why do we have to pay child support?Short answer: because they carry the kids. You can't reasonably force someone to have a medical procedure nor can you reasonably abandon a kid you fathered. I wish there was a good solution to this and if you have one, I'm all ears. Unfortunately nobody in their right mind is going to support the sort of initiative often referred to as a "paper abortion," which is so open to that sort of abuse it can't possibly work. This is the sort of stuff that gets MRA a bad name. | /r/MensRights | 08/07/22 03:20 PM |
| 3 | "I'll be honest, I'm starting to not like men at all." - once again broadbrushing all men over the acts of a deranged few. Yet at the same time, "NAFALT!!!"I've said astoundingly similar things myself. I see echo chambers and extremists on both sides of this and it does not help anyone. | /r/MensRights | 08/07/22 09:34 AM |
| 2 | Yup, not particularly my cup of tea to talk about menstruation cycles, on the other hand….As so often I'm kind of mystified as to what people's objection to this is. I have no objection to being downvoted as long as you explain why. All I'm doing here is demonstrating that certainly not all women are shy about discussing menstruation, and giving an example of someone who was so upfront about it, that it actually made her quite unpopular. What exactly is the problem with any of that? | /r/MensRights | 08/07/22 09:32 AM |
| 1 | Sexploitation - Bureaucrats won't help if you are wrong genderI have to say my first reaction is that by the time I was a teen, I was more than aware that doing that would be a tremendously bad idea, and my main reaction is that said teen boys have been incredibly stupid. I hate to think what the consequences for them would be, for a moment of teenage stupidity, though. | /r/MensRights | 08/07/22 09:30 AM |
| 1 | Why is it perfectly acceptable for women to ask for female employees/professionals, but it's not when a man asks for a male?In most jurisdictions it's illegal, as it should be, for people to select on gender for employment outside incredibly specific circumstances, and I've been involved with a couple of situations where men have been turned down for work on the basis of being men. It's absolutely against the rules where I live, but the reality is that it's almost never enforced. It's extremely expensive to bring any sort of enforcement action, and organisations which exist to solve that problem, such as unions, ofte… | /r/MensRights | 08/07/22 09:16 AM |
| 1 | Yup, not particularly my cup of tea to talk about menstruation cycles, on the other hand….I dunno, I have female friends who are very upfront about it. Had a conversation with someone today about how she hadn't been running for three days because she just didn't feel up to it. "Why?" "Really bad month." "Ah, that blows." Honestly, it's better to have that conversation than to expect someone to be leaping about at her physical best and not be able to. Some people have it a lot, lot worse than others and I think that's part of the problem. One particularly unpleasant hardline feminist … | /r/MensRights | 07/07/22 10:41 PM |
| 9 | Why isn’t misandry treated the same as other forms of online hate?In all seriousness, I'm absolutely mystified by that original post on r/TwoXChromosomes. Ignoring any associated men's rights issues for the sake of argument, how is it possible to interpret current politics as being in any sense ignorant of women's issues? OK, fine, a lot of the commentary on that thread plausibly comes from people who have spent a lot of time reading Reddit threads; it's echo-chamber stuff. I fear that happens here, too, and we should do something about that. Still, reading th… | /r/MensRights | 07/07/22 06:37 PM |
| 6 | When you have a femdom fetish but need to dress it up with morality platitudes.To be fair we regularly do; there are ceremonies of remembrance at least yearly for that sort of thing in many countries. I could actually see a case for a yearly ceremony of thanks to our ancestors for the fact that we now live in a society where - no matter what anyone thinks of the status quo - both men and women have it better than anyone ever has in the entire course of human history. | /r/MensRights | 07/07/22 03:28 PM |
| 3 | "Men are whining"I think the term here is "tone policing." The appropriate response is "if you say so. Do you disagree with what I'm saying?" | /r/MensRights | 07/07/22 12:12 AM |
| 12 | Major backlash after Toronto's "no-beards rule" leads to over 100 Sikh security guards being laid off | NewsTo be completely fair, at least some jobs do. And not many jobs prohibit beards. Not that either is great. | /r/MensRights | 06/07/22 03:31 PM |
| 5 | There should be an equivalent to “mansplaining” for womenNo, there shouldn't. If you disagree with what someone is saying, state why. Don't criticse anyone on the basis of their gender. It's wrong when women do it, and it's wrong when men do it. It's my experience that a lot more women do it than men because they know they can get away with it, but hypocrisy hardly helps us. Isn't that why we're here? | /r/MensRights | 06/07/22 11:22 AM |
| 6 | Name single right men have that women don't?Nothing where I am, but internationally things vary. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 10:27 PM |
| 2 | This affects little boys as much as it affects little girls...Given the hideous, appalling record of the catholic church in looking after people in difficult situations, I'm not particularly encouraged by that excuse. Quite the opposite, in fact. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 10:19 PM |
| 0 | This affects little boys as much as it affects little girls...I find myself repeatedly having to point out that conflating abortion, to use your words, with murdering children is not a widely accepted point of view. You can keep making statements which imply that as a basis, but you're probably not going to get much traction with it. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 08:33 PM |
| 1 | This affects little boys as much as it affects little girls...What she's effectively talking about here is the fact that there isn't nearly the number of foster carers or adoptive parents that the world needs to accommodate the number of kids who need them right now, let alone what it's going to be like in a world without safe abortion. Yes, she beats around the bush and blathers on, but the point she's making is hard to avoid. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 08:32 PM |
| 84 | Name single right men have that women don't?Some places allow men into certain roles, particularly in the military, which are still closed to women. That's dwindling, though. If you asked a hardline feminist, she'd probably tell you that men enjoy a lot of unearned privilege as a result of the patriarchy. You might suspect that represents a more or less unknowable, unprovable, vague and generalised objection to the status quo which could be used to demonstrate more or less anything, and you'd be right. But if people want to believe that s… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 08:11 PM |
| 10 | “Women want rights so bad, so where’s my foreskin?”I'm from a place where we don't routinely genitally mutilate our male children, and people know this. I've actually had American women ask if I'm "cut" and be quite interested when I confirm I'm not. So actually... | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 06:10 PM |
| 2 | This affects little boys as much as it affects little girls...You're working on the assumed basis that life begins at conception, which is, to put it mildly, not a universally-accepted idea. Thus the rest of your argument rather falls apart. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 04:20 PM |
| 30 | USAID' plan against boys' underachivement : The real issue is women's oppression, beware of masculinityOne of the many core problems with this is expressed in the first footnote on page 1. We use the term “gender” throughout the paper, except when referring to biological traits at birth, in which case the term “sex” is used, with reference to the definitions provided in Athill and Jha (2009): “Gender means the socially constructed differences between men and women. They differ from one culture and society to another, change over time and define who has power and influence over what. Sex means the… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 10:04 AM |
| 6 | USAID' plan against boys' underachivement : The real issue is women's oppression, beware of masculinityCan't agree. This stuff is horrible but you're overreacting; you could say that about any proposal involving the word "solution." Beware Godwin's law here. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 10:00 AM |
| 1 | Diane Abbott needs to be sacked and investigated.She didn't do that much when she was giving speeches over zoom during the pandemic, largely because she was reading them from a piece of paper just out of shot. And she isn't even very good at doing that, stumbling over her words constantly. Agree entirely that she seems to constantly be training for the role of world's most patronising woman. I think the closed eyes thing is just her way of concentrating on forming words, which is, as I say, not something she finds very easy at the best of time… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/22 02:24 AM |
| 9 | The popular lie of “MRAs don't help men, feminists do”Let's get clear on this, there's a lot more to communication than what's being verbally spoken. Much as I agree in principle with a lot of what you've said, including this, you need to be very careful. The problem is that you've given yourself permission to assume that a certain group of people mean to say something they aren't saying. That may be true, but the problem is that what you think they mean is made up by you, so it ends up being a universal excuse to criticise someone you don't like f… | /r/MensRights | 04/07/22 10:51 AM |
| 2 | Outrageous or not: is it possible to be a feminist and not hate men?I should preface this by being clear that I don't find the traditional left-to-right characterisation of mainstream politics particularly useful on the basis it's a horrible oversimplification and often provokes false-dilemma thinking. I particularly don't care about the largely (but not exclusively) American tendency to pick a side and then attempt to find ways to sort all the things one does not like into the other side. But for the sake of the discussion, OK. In many ways I think what you're … | /r/MensRights | 04/07/22 10:12 AM |
| 2 | Outrageous or not: is it possible to be a feminist and not hate men?Much as I accept much of what you're saying in theory, the practical reality is that people who consider themselves feminists will react to criticism based on their definition of feminism, not yours or mine, and their own beliefs. It isn't useful to us to alienate people who hold reasonable (that is, egalitarian) views. I would not describe myself as a feminist precisely because it lends comfort to views I don't like, and I would consider any genuine egalitarian foolish for doing so. But the res… | /r/MensRights | 04/07/22 09:54 AM |
| 7 | Diane Abbott needs to be sacked and investigated.Diane Abbott is an appallingly hypocritical race-baiter who has made disparaging comments about white people on at least two occasions. She once wrote "white people love playing divide and rule," and complained about some immigrant nurses on the basis that "blonde, blue-eyed Finnish girls [have] never met a black person before." She has also claimed that "West Indian mums will go to the wall for their children," which would reasonably be interpreted as a racial supremacist statement if a white p… | /r/MensRights | 04/07/22 09:23 AM |
| 1 | Book on how the separation of genders + sexes as unequal left men without reproductive medicine. 15 pages free on publishers websiteI'm with u/JustMissKacey on this; you can take an purely anti-woman stance on the basis it's often what we face going the other way, but in the end it won't solve much. At some point we all have to cohabit the same planet and meet occasionally. | /r/MensRights | 03/07/22 01:11 PM |
| 3 | Book on how the separation of genders + sexes as unequal left men without reproductive medicine. 15 pages free on publishers websiteThe reason people are being a bit cautious about this is that we've seen things like this before - more or less every organisation or committee that masquerades under the banner of "equality and diversity" ends up being the anti-guy club. People should maintain an open mind and it's not great when they don't, but frankly, we've been burned before. | /r/MensRights | 03/07/22 01:10 PM |
| 2 | Would you like to see more female construction workers?I found my body burnt out extremely quickly. Sad reality is, human beings are really only supposed to live to be about 35 in the wild. We've pushed that right out but it's no surprise people start losing their high power abilities after that age. | /r/MensRights | 03/07/22 01:27 AM |
| 6 | Feminists are intolerant of men. I will not tolerate those who are intolerant of me, just because of my gender.If you're talking about abortion, someone recently ran a poll here which showed that most people supported abortion on demand with caveats, usually a time limit, or to preserve the life of the mother, generally without time limits. That's how most of the first world does it right now, in reality, and while you can argue about where the time limit is set (I suspect we can agree there is a grey area) I think that's reasonable in principle. We have some social conservatives who don't think like tha… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/22 01:25 AM |
| 1 | Are most here big on traditional gender roles?Hell no; my partner does an extremely stereotypically masculine job, and if I was the slightest bit threatened by that I'd be in very much the wrong place. I try to avoid the labels too, and I applaud your doing so. The underlying question seems to be whether there is a conservative-leaning majority here and I wouldn't be surprised to discover there was, but it doesn't represent me if so. I'm mildly left of centre by European standards, which makes me practically a communist by American standard… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/22 12:32 AM |
| 6 | Feminists are intolerant of men. I will not tolerate those who are intolerant of me, just because of my gender.Reasonable for some specific types of highly politicised feminist. There are people out there who describe themselves as feminists who are really just egalitarians and that's fine, so be careful about your definition of terms. | /r/MensRights | 02/07/22 10:51 PM |
| 1 | Would you like to see more female construction workers?A huge amount of that depends on semantics. By competition, I mean nothing more than the situation which inevitably arises when more than one person applies for a job. This occurs whenever two people desire anything that they aren't willing to share - a job, a a romantic partner - and that will inevitably happen to everyone. That's a normal part of the human condition. That's what I mean by competition. I assume it's not what you mean by competition. Even so, I'd say that conflating interpersona… | /r/MensRights | 02/07/22 10:49 PM |
| 5 | Would you like to see more female construction workers?I think that's an interesting choice of words. A man might be described as not being able to cut it. A woman might be described as a victim of a deep-rooted, society-wide misogynistic cabal dedicated knowingly and deliberately to keeping women down. Both might have experienced exactly the same thing. I think a huge, huge majority of the complaints we see are down to misinterpretation, especially when the situation involves highly people who want certain conclusions. | /r/MensRights | 02/07/22 12:03 PM |
| 6 | Would you like to see more female construction workers?Yeah, although people really shouldn't do it, even so. I personally don't really enjoy those sorts of environments and it'd be great if people could be a bit less... like that... but in the end I accept there are certain jobs I am never going to do because of the sociopolitics that goes with them, and that's a shame. I don't think it's particularly a women's issue. The assumption that it is solely a women's issue, which is the position promulgated by hardline feminism, is somewhat prejudiced. | /r/MensRights | 02/07/22 11:28 AM |
| 1 | Would you like to see more female construction workers?For what it's worth, my wife makes a huge amount more money than me, and barring a minor miracle she always will. We spent much of our lives making vaguely similar amounts and it's never been an issue. I mean, great - mo' money! This sort of situation has not been unusual for a couple of decades, and I think your claim about men being poorly adapted (which is a generalisation, and I'd prefer you didn't do that) is increasingly out of date. Some people, sure - but a small minority, at this point.… | /r/MensRights | 02/07/22 10:54 AM |
| 8 | Would you like to see more female construction workers?Mine too! That woman is cut. | /r/MensRights | 02/07/22 10:45 AM |
| 12 | Would you like to see more female construction workers?I hope that's true. It's certainly true of me and of at least some other people. I think we are at our worst when it's least true. | /r/MensRights | 02/07/22 10:45 AM |
| 1 | Would you like to see more female construction workers?Everything that u/Ferbuggity and u/Viesegel have said here is entirely true and I wouldn't query it for a second. That said, if you were to list situations where you really would expect to find the world's last few people who really are likely to make make-me-a-sandwich jokes, I wouldn't have too hard a time believing it'd be fishing boat crews, road repair gangs, oil rig workers, or on a construction site. There's a big grey area between recognising the reality of those situations and turning i… | /r/MensRights | 02/07/22 10:44 AM |
| -7 | Would you like to see more female construction workers?Well, some of them are, sometimes. As I said elsewhere on this thread, I've met more than one woman who doesn't really want to take advantage of these things as it becomes impossible to claim you got where you are by effort and ability if you... didn't... | /r/MensRights | 02/07/22 10:36 AM |
| 11 | Would you like to see more female construction workers?I'd be careful using the word "many." You'd need to be able to substantiate how many, which would be a complicated bit of research to do, and it would depend which trade you were specifically talking about. But yes, at least some of the women currently entering stereotypically male trades have used positive discrimination to do it. I hesitate to blame them, personally. I can't blame anyone for taking the breaks they can get. That said, I know women who avoid taking advantage of these schemes on … | /r/MensRights | 02/07/22 10:35 AM |
| 5 | Would you like to see more female construction workers?Where I am, plumbers, carpenters and electricians are currently in demand and well paid, as are several other stereotypically male trades, such as truck driving. You can do quite well financially in this sort of work and as such it's no surprise to find more people moving into doing it, including more women. As if it needs saying, nobody in their right mind has any problem with this. It only becomes a men's rights issue when people start implementing positive discrimination in pursuit of some ar… | /r/MensRights | 02/07/22 10:27 AM |
| 2 | When i first realised that feminism is not about equalityOne of the main reasons I'm here is because I see more and more of this direct, outspoken and unabashed prejudice. Similarly, I live in a country wherein South Asian people tend to do considerably better than average (probably because they work their kids to the bone getting exam results, which is a dubious idea, but it seem to work). Quite often, South Asian men are not excluded from things, whereas white men are. I can't tell whether these people can tell that what they're doing is wrong and d… | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 11:12 PM |
| 28 | Feminist Strategy: Insult Men While Demanding Our HelpProposing, even in jest, to end male suffrage is probably at least a divisive and polarising as anything Rogan has said. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 06:54 PM |
| -2 | Let's not let this sub be anything like r/TwoXChromosomes.Entirely, and I've no idea why you're being downvoted. Honestly, not a clue as to why what you're saying is so objectionable. If people are going to downvote something, I wish they'd take twenty seconds to outline their objections in a post. Otherwise it invites the conclusion that nobody actually has a logical objection and is simply reacting emotionally, which doesn't help anyone. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 06:49 PM |
| 3 | Outrageous or not: is it possible to be a feminist and not hate men?It really depends what conclusion you want to draw from that. As I say, there are people who refer to themselves as feminists who hold entirely egalitarian views. It's not your place or mine to dictate to these people what they believe. Mischaracterising people, often knowingly, is actually a favourite tactic of critical theory enthusiasts, and we should be better than that. You can complain that by referring to themselves as feminists, some people risk seeming as if they are lending support to … | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 06:46 PM |
| 5 | Outrageous or not: is it possible to be a feminist and not hate men?One of the things to understand about this is that the word "feminist" is not a controlled term and lots of different people have lots of different definitions of it. This matters, because some of those definitions describe perfectly reasonable things, such as strict equality between men and women. I would query why we can't just call that egalitarianism, but what's important is that there are people in the world who hold that exact view, refer to themselves as feminists, and who we do not want … | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 03:50 PM |
| 4 | people blaming man for crimes in post about a poll on woman only city where most didn't supported itLet's not generalise. It isn't the case that literally no woman would be able to do those jobs. I would expect fewer of them, proportionally, to want to, but that's a very different consideration. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 09:08 AM |
| -1 | Let's not let this sub be anything like r/TwoXChromosomes.We're nowhere near as hateful as any of the feminist spaces, and yet we're the ones who are always being told that we need to calm down? I don't know if I'd say r/mensrights is objectively less hateful, to use your term. I've seen some unpleasant commentary here. The thing is, it's not a competition. The current political reality is that it's very easy for women to characterise men as out of control, angry, and potentially violent. We do ourselves no favours by playing up to that stereotype, reg… | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 09:05 AM |
| 25 | Let's not let this sub be anything like r/TwoXChromosomes.It's not anyone's job to look after anyone else's mental health unless that person is a mental health professional. But good grief, why wouldn't anyone do his or her best to help out anyone else, just as a matter of normal, reasonable human interaction? We need to be careful we're not promoting division. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 09:03 AM |
| 1 | if a woman has lost the opportunity for an abortion they have the same reproduction rights as a male.You haven't really provided a single argument against it To quote my previous reply, your solution allows any man to effectively abandon a pregnancy for any reason or none. That's ripe for abuse and as such I don't think it's reasonable (to put it mildly). And frankly, whatever you or I think, we can be fairly confident that wider society isn't going to find it reasonable and as such it's very unlikely ever to be implemented, so it's never going to be a solution to the problem. I'm sure you and … | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 08:59 AM |
| 1 | Gefer women now have to pay 20% less entry into public placesYes, I'm not surprised. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 08:52 AM |
| 1 | The "Provide Solutions or you have no complaint" TrollOther problems might be solvable, but not in a straightforward way Yeah. The problem with modern culture is that we increasingly demand solutions that not only work, but sound good in a pithy soundbite. That's making difficult problems even more difficult in a way that's really completely unnecessary. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 08:51 AM |
| 4 | Let's not let this sub be anything like r/TwoXChromosomes.Some of them are. I agree that there are absolutely people who are never going to be worth talking to. There are many others, though, who are worth the effort of trying to communicate. The problem is with the way you're expressing yourself, which risks making us all look angry and out of control. That's not helpful in the long run. | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 12:42 AM |
| 3 | Let's not let this sub be anything like r/TwoXChromosomes.Yes, I get it. It's just... sheesh. What I'd say to u/Zubecci is - what do you think it looks like when feminist subreddits link to things like this? | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 10:58 PM |
| -1 | Let's not let this sub be anything like r/TwoXChromosomes.Likely very true. But unfortunately it is very bad for the cause because it gives people ammunition. To paraphrase a popular 80s movie, we need to be doing it better and cleaner than the other guy. | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 10:38 PM |
| 7 | Let's not let this sub be anything like r/TwoXChromosomes.I think this is a miserable example of exactly the sort of exchange we need not to have. People need not to start these things, and people need to not react to them. | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 10:34 PM |
| 1 | if a woman has lost the opportunity for an abortion they have the same reproduction rights as a male.at bare minimum the man should not have to pay child support if they do a paper abortion I think we pretty much understand one another. The reaction you will get from a lot of people is that your proposed solution allows any man to effectively abandon a pregnancy for any reason or none and that isn't reasonable. We're a men's rights group but we are not required to support this sort of stuff, and it does not help us to do so. In the end, it is OK to admit there is no good solution. | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 10:30 PM |
| 16 | Let's not let this sub be anything like r/TwoXChromosomes.I don't notice that much of either of those things. What I do notice is people making hasty generalisations and cruel jokes about women in general, and that does not help us. | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 08:51 PM |
| 2 | Lets talk about a book!sorry that we can't have the connection that queer (again her word not mine) people do. The question being, how does she know? Which generalises into a more or less universal objection to all of the complaints we hear about how women feel they are treated compared to men. Compared to what? How do they know? | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 08:41 PM |
| 6 | What are the real reasons woman value abortion so much?Your post contains unfair generalisations. "Why do they?" They don't, not all of them. We should try to do better than this. Maybe insert some caveats? I haven't done the research, but I would safely assume that most women want access to abortion for the same reason most men (and it is most men) want women to have access to abortion - to correct a bit of bad luck or a moment of carelessness. That's totally reasonable. It'd take a very unpleasant human being to - in your terms - baby trap someone… | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 07:18 PM |
| 3 | Lets talk about a book!views heterosexual relationships through the lens of being queer Ah. Is that what we're calling prejudice these days? | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 07:12 PM |
| 5 | The "Provide Solutions or you have no complaint" TrollIt is, of course, completely reasonable to consider something a problem without being aware of a solution to it. Someone who's fallen off a hundred-storey building is entitled to consider his predicament a problem and he has no solution to it. But it actually gets worse, because some problems are more or less intrinsically insoluble. The issues around the responsibilities of fatherhood caused by the fact that only women (inevitably and correctly) having the option to abort pregnancies is one suc… | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Gefer women now have to pay 20% less entry into public placesCouldn't agree more. The title of this thread is misleading. Horrifying it could even be proposed, I guess, but this sort of posting doesn't really help anyone. | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 10:58 AM |
| 15 | I told an HR administrator to stop saying that I (and male coworkers) belong to the Patriarchy. In fact I told her if she says it about me again I would sue.I am a one of the much more left leaning MRA's. Me too - and that's by non-US standards, so I'd probably come off as the ghost of Lenin to most of the people here. I think it says something that these issues are starting to attract the attention of people like me, because I'm really, really not coming at this from a point of confirmation bias provoked by preexisting conservative politics. | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 12:56 AM |
| 1 | On the "if men could get pregnant, there would be abortion centers on every street corner" claim: nah. A rant on why I disagree with this recent feminist talking point.I don't think it's psychologically healthy to be religious because it requires believing in things without having, or even wanting, a good reason to do so. The valid question then becomes whether people who believe in nice things without a good reason will also believe in not-so-nice things without a good reason, and history repeatedly shows us that... yes. Yes, they do. I agree entirely on your stance re the death penalty; the question is simply over the definition of "human being." I'm clear t… | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 12:52 AM |
| 0 | Gefer women now have to pay 20% less entry into public placesWell, quite. I'm not disagreeing with the general thrust of the argument that the proposed law is horrendous. Just cleaning up any misunderstanding over the status of Switzerland, which is probably the country most often assumed to be in the EU that isn't. | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 12:26 AM |
| 1 | So I Talked To A Toxic Feminist...I CANT be a misandrist, there’s no matriarchy behind me. Bigotry requires organized enforcement, This requires some very large and specific assumptions with which you are free to disagree. We get people all over r/mensrights constantly making blanket assertions like this ("life begins at conception") is a good one. The answer, as to "bigotry requires organized enforcement," is... "Does it?" | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 12:22 AM |
| 1 | In my experience, how an argument goes when talking about men's rights and the crossover to abortionThis is not a very smart argument to get into, sadly. No, her final reaction was not reasonable, but that doesn't make this a very useful conversation. Unless we're going to either a) force women to get abortions, or b) allow any father to arbitrarily abandon his unborn child and its mother, neither of which is reasonable, there is no good solution to this. I don't like the fact that dads get no say. The biology forces it upon us. This is not great. I don't like this reality any more than anyone… | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 12:19 AM |
| 7 | Why are we being labeled is mysogonistic?I tend to agree with a lot of comments here that hardline feminists have learned that accusing someone or something of misogyny gives them a lot of power. Actually this is an incredibly bad idea even for them. My perception is that more and more of the world is starting to see this as crying wolf. The meaning of words tends to metamorphose to represent what people are actually talking about and as such I think the word "misogyny" may simply end up being at least a widely-understood code word for… | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 12:15 AM |
| 136 | I told an HR administrator to stop saying that I (and male coworkers) belong to the Patriarchy. In fact I told her if she says it about me again I would sue.I would imagine OP would be best served not to object too strongly, to allow it to happen a lot, to establish that pattern. True? | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 12:09 AM |
| 2 | Gefer women now have to pay 20% less entry into public placesThis is nothing to do with the UN. The UN is not based in Geneva. It's based in that massive office block in New York. It has an office in Geneva, but then so do a lot of international organisations. | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 12:08 AM |
| 9 | Gefer women now have to pay 20% less entry into public placesSad fact: Geneva is in Switzerland. Switzerland is not an EU member and I don't think it is bound by the charter you mention. The situation is slightly complicated as Switzerland has a lot of treaties with the EU which require it to behave in some respects as if it were an EU member, but it isn't. The reason I'm not entirely sure about this is that I don't know if any of those treaties require Switzerland to implement the charter of fundamental rights. I don't think they do. I have no idea if Sw… | /r/MensRights | 30/06/22 12:06 AM |
| 2 | Gefer women now have to pay 20% less entry into public placesPoint of order - the UN is not based in Geneva. The UN has six main departments, five of which are based at its headquarters, which is actually in New York. The other is the international court of justice in The Hague. It does have an office in Geneva, but then again so do a lot of international organisations. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/22 11:57 PM |
| 1 | The double standards in this thread are annoying. All the arguments used against men having reproductive rights can be used against women having freedom with theirs too. I'm all for women having control over their bodies but the cognitive dissonance in this thread is annoying. you believe that life begins at conception. No, I don't - did I give that impression? I support unrestricted access to abortion up to a reasonable time limit, where "reasonable" is probably twenty or more weeks, but I'd have to do some more reading to form a more specific view. To be clear, if there are jurisdictions where people are charged with murdering unborn foetuses at a time earlier than the time limit for abortion, then that doesn't make sense, and I don't support the foetal murder sta… | /r/MensRights | 29/06/22 11:55 PM |
| 1 | The double standards in this thread are annoying. All the arguments used against men having reproductive rights can be used against women having freedom with theirs too. I'm all for women having control over their bodies but the cognitive dissonance in this thread is annoying.Quite often it's more than three months. Various criteria have been used. It's not really a scientific question in the manner you seem to propose. My approach to this is that there's a fairly well-defined period, which is probably at least three months, during which what we're talking about is not by any reasonable measure a human being. Then there's a very large grey area, then there's a point at which even very experienced doctors start to find the process of performing an abortion unpleasant.… | /r/MensRights | 29/06/22 11:51 PM |
| -2 | The double standards in this thread are annoying. All the arguments used against men having reproductive rights can be used against women having freedom with theirs too. I'm all for women having control over their bodies but the cognitive dissonance in this thread is annoying.I don't know. I don't support that law and it isn't the case where I live. You could reasonably support that law if it applied only after a certain duration of pregnancy, which would have to be no earlier than the latest allowable termination date. That might make some sort of moral sense, although you'd have to be very careful about inadvertently criminalising doctors who were forced by circumstance to perform late term abortions to preserve the mother's life. Most first world abortion rules ar… | /r/MensRights | 28/06/22 01:18 PM |
| 17 | The double standards in this thread are annoying. All the arguments used against men having reproductive rights can be used against women having freedom with theirs too. I'm all for women having control over their bodies but the cognitive dissonance in this thread is annoying.Yes, it's a straw man. Concern over one thing does not exclude concern over the other. Both these things can be true at once. For what it's worth this sort of logical fallacy is very common in politics and I don't think it's specifically a feminist thing. People who post here often make the same mistake. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/22 12:09 PM |
| 11 | The double standards in this thread are annoying. All the arguments used against men having reproductive rights can be used against women having freedom with theirs too. I'm all for women having control over their bodies but the cognitive dissonance in this thread is annoying.That would require a fairly specific interpretation of the word "child" which is not widely recognised. You're free to disagree, but that's the reality you're facing | /r/MensRights | 28/06/22 12:07 PM |
| 3 | On the "if men could get pregnant, there would be abortion centers on every street corner" claim: nah. A rant on why I disagree with this recent feminist talking point.TLDR. But in general I don't think that the religious objection to abortion is particularly gendered, is it? Why would anyone claim that? Seriously interested in what the opposing point of view says here. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/22 09:23 AM |
| 5 | From a dad in a Facebook group: I was so outraged and shaken by the heinous lies my ex told of me. I had incontrovertible proof that she was a liar. I wanted to defend my good character. Where did that get me? Nearly bankrupt, my siblings & parents completely poisoned/estranged, and I see my kid 2-4We're not married, but we've been together since 2007 and might as well be. No kids, no interest in kids from either of us. We both count our lucky stars. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/22 09:22 AM |
| 1 | if a woman has lost the opportunity for an abortion they have the same reproduction rights as a male.It's often worth bearing in mind that if you're disagreeing with someone using the phrase "you're saying..." then you're very likely to be constructing a strawman argument, as you are here. So, to answer your implicit question, no, I'm not saying that, nor have I given you any reason to assume I am. To the point, though, if a single mother finds herself in financial trouble then many jurisdictions absolutely will support her, both financially and in other ways. Whether that's reasonable depends … | /r/MensRights | 28/06/22 09:18 AM |
| 1 | if a woman has lost the opportunity for an abortion they have the same reproduction rights as a male.They are. I've given you no reason to think otherwise. One of the problems we have on both sides of this is exclusivity. Hardline feminists frequently claim that by highlighting the issues of men, we are somehow "erasing" the issues of women. Obviously, that's untrue, in the same way your claim that I'm overlooking the issues of delinquent mothers, about which I've said nothing at all. Please, let's step back and look at this in a more general sense. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/22 10:22 PM |
| 0 | Oklahoma Democrat proposes mandatory vasectomies for boys until they reach "financial and emotional stability"I take your point, to a degree. That said, I would confidently assume Dollens has said this in the full confidence it won't actually happen. Yes, to an extent this is brinkmanship, and brinkmanship is dangerous and hard to control, but I would assume that in his brain it's a bit of political posturing he doesn't expect to come to pass, and he will have done it on that basis. Yes, he's shatteringly stupid, on several levels, and I say that in the knowledge that he's on the side of American politi… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/22 09:51 PM |
| -2 | if a woman has lost the opportunity for an abortion they have the same reproduction rights as a male.Well, it creates exactly the risk I outlined - that it would be used by genuinely deadbeat dads to abscond without taking responsibility for their kids. I don't think there's a great solution to this and I'm happy to accept that any conclusion we can come to would have huge drawbacks for someone, but let's not pretend it's an easy question to answer. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/22 08:30 PM |
| 2 | Reproductive anatomy health “sex ed” shown to improve social relationships between gendersLike a lot of research in this area, the high level conclusions - the sort of thing you see in the abstracts of academic papers - often make lots of sense. I suspect that's because the high level conclusions are fairly obvious; it's a good idea for everyone in society to have the best possible understanding of everyone else in society. Who could possibly argue. I don't want to fall into the trap of assuming that people are using coded language, but I would be interested in knowing more about wha… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/22 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Do you think the way women choose partners is an MRM issue?Is it a valid rights platform to judge how the other sex chooses their partners? You're free to judge anything you like; you don't need a license to have an opinion on any subject you like. You're not allowed to actually try to force other people to do things they don't want to do, obviously, but you can form a view on their reasoning just as you'd form a view on any opinion they expressed. As far as it being a valid rights platform you'd need some good data, and in terms of choosing a partner t… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/22 07:39 PM |
| -1 | if a woman has lost the opportunity for an abortion they have the same reproduction rights as a male.I'm aware of the idea. The (pretty obvious) problem is that it is ripe for abuse; I'm not sure how you would allow that without creating a risk that it would be used by genuinely deadbeat dads to abscond without taking responsibility for their kids, and much as we want to be fair to both men and women here, that's probably not a situation we want to create. You would have to require the consent of both mother and father, and what mother is going to turn down the free money? Possibly a few would,… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/22 07:28 PM |
| 14 | Oklahoma Democrat proposes mandatory vasectomies for boys until they reach "financial and emotional stability"I agree entirely that people don't look smart by addressing this as a serious policy. That said, I think two things are important. I should preface these remarks by saying I fully support access to abortion as it exists in many developed nations and I find the recent changes in the US horrifying; don't assume I'm saying this because I have some hidden anti-abortion agenda, because I don't. So. First, if you did take this seriously, you'd have to admit that vasectomy is an active surgical interve… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/22 07:19 PM |
| 4 | Oklahoma Democrat proposes mandatory vasectomies for boys until they reach "financial and emotional stability"Discussion of the actual medical implications of this are a mistake, because it's never going to happen. OK, in extremis, crazier things have happened in history, but I don't think anyone, including Dollens, actually intends this to be a serious policy, and we make ourselves look credulous by discussing it as a serious idea. In short, he's very nearly kidding around for political gain. What matters is that if someone made this sort of statement, even in the pursuit of some sort of political iron… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/22 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Sex strikeNot a conversation to have at work, these days. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/22 05:39 PM |
| 11 | Why can women ruin our lives and nobody even questions it?I would hesitate to comment on your specific situation as I don't know you or her personally, and I hope you'd understand that. That said, it's my understanding, based on both personal experience and writing I've read, that women are much more likely to indulge in the sort of bad-mouthing you refer to, and to rely on spite and gossip if someone pisses them off. I suspect that women do this to other women at least as much as they do it to men, it's just that we're less used to it and less prepare… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/22 09:56 AM |
| 0 | Mandatory Vasectomies Are a HORRIBLE IdeaOne wonders if this is some sort of elaborate troll, to be honest. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/22 07:00 AM |
| 0 | if a woman has lost the opportunity for an abortion they have the same reproduction rights as a male.Er... yes, I think I made all that clear. I don't see an acceptable solution to it. What would you propose - strap the woman down and do it by force? Nobody's going to tolerate that and I wouldn't want to live in a world where that was OK. About the best solution you're going to get is some sort of male contraceptive pill, which I think is a pretty good idea, but as I understand it there are problems with doing that too. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/22 06:58 AM |
| 0 | Woman beats her boyfriend, runs from and then assaults cops. Witnesses explain she did it, both are arrested. all charges on her dismissed.. I am just.. So done with this. I'm ready to give upTitle states all charges were dismissed, which they weren't. Personally I'd have likely made a point of pressing charges if there had been any opportunity to do so, but if this guy didn't then they may have had little choice. If you really want to make a political issue out of this you could point out that some places (particularly American college campuses with their kangaroo courts) have pursued people for rape even when the alleged victim didn't want them to, and not just in circumstances whe… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/22 06:44 AM |
| -1 | 90% of feminist memes about Roe v Wade attack menNo, just don't make up statistics. Sheesh. | /r/MensRights | 26/06/22 11:49 PM |
| -3 | if a woman has lost the opportunity for an abortion they have the same reproduction rights as a male.if a woman has lost the opportunity for an abortion they have the same reproduction rights as a male. I think that's crazy. Comparing the reproduction rights of people who can get pregnant and people who can't is madness, and tends to make r/MensRights look insane. It's a totally invalid comparison. I'm not blind to the fact that women have the option to abort whereas men don't. My opinion is not particularly man-friendly here, because I don't think you can reasonably force someone else to have … | /r/MensRights | 26/06/22 10:23 PM |
| 3 | What does MGTOW mean?Like a lot of things (including r/mensrights) it's a movement with a grain of reason at its core, but which is often used by extremists as a platform for some stuff that is absolutely not OK. The idea, roughly is that men being involved with women is not worth the risk. I don't personally think that's true in general, although it's probably more reasonable in situations like American colleges where the situation can involve unflinching bias and hostility toward young men by the institution itsel… | /r/MensRights | 26/06/22 10:16 PM |
| 4 | Woman beats her boyfriend, runs from and then assaults cops. Witnesses explain she did it, both are arrested. all charges on her dismissed.. I am just.. So done with this. I'm ready to give upTitle is not quite accurate. They didn't charge her with assaulting the guy, though they did charge her with other things. Them charging her with assaulting him would possibly have required his willing cooperation which often people refuse to give - which in this sort of case, where no serious harm is done, is the sanest solution for everyone unless you're feeling really vindictive. There is never any winner in this kind of situation. I would agree that the woman's behaviour was beneath contempt… | /r/MensRights | 26/06/22 10:08 PM |
| 3 | Mandatory Vasectomies Are a HORRIBLE IdeaLinky? | /r/MensRights | 26/06/22 09:18 PM |
| -2 | 90% of feminist memes about Roe v Wade attack menI just made up a statistic based on my own personal experience swiping through facebook. Look, I get it, but let's not do this... | /r/MensRights | 26/06/22 08:01 PM |
| 6 | Mandatory Vasectomies Are a HORRIBLE IdeaWho on earth is proposing that!? | /r/MensRights | 26/06/22 06:30 PM |
| 1 | i feel like modern western feminism is more about bashing men than considering the ACTUAL problems of women in other countriesI tend to agree, although I'm not sure the average behaviour of people on r/MensRights makes us look much better sometimes. | /r/MensRights | 26/06/22 11:08 AM |
| 12 | females acting like you are harassing them when you are just walking? (what to do about it?)Much as insulting other people isn't very nice, honestly, we're talking about women here who are assuming really awful things about some guy based on the gender difference between them. This is actually the very definition of prejudice; what would the reaction be if I started behaving this way toward black people on the basis I'm white? What they're actually doing is gravely insulting to him - an implication he intends violence or worse - and an angry reaction, while ultimately unhelpful, is cer… | /r/MensRights | 26/06/22 11:06 AM |
| 1 | What does feminism want men to do about creepy men?This is an aside, but I think something that might be worth discussing separately is this concept of people feeling shame at having been made the victim of something. Perhaps we're engaging in a semantic argument over the meaning of the word "shame," but I don't think anyone can be made to feel shame over something unless that person feels he or she has done something wrong. In general, though, idea that alleged rape victims are somehow overlooked or disadvantaged by the current political realit… | /r/MensRights | 26/06/22 11:00 AM |
| 1 | All women that said "no uterus, no opinion" and are now begging for mens support on abortion can go shove it.However there’s no acknowledgment that these boards that are filled with sexism towards women also pushes women to not care about your causes either. Couldn't agree more, and that's a large part of why I'm here. If I were in charge I'd take a far firmer stance, and I wish someone would. It'd make this subreddit a lot more useful. I do wonder if it'd scare off extremist elements to some other subreddit or another platform. At some point we do have to persuade everyone on both sides of this. | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 09:40 PM |
| 1 | What does feminism want men to do about creepy men?You mischaracterise me; I would not refer to the situation you describe as withdrawal of consent. What I'm talking about is a situation where there is absolute, unequivocal and universally understood consent, then the woman becomes frightened of something and becomes unable to communicate. I'll reiterate that we're now well down in the weeds of a vanishingly improbable corner case, but in that situation I would call it withdrawal of consent in a manner the man could not reasonably be expected to… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Why do mods allow incel to be used as a slur?You cannot make people like you by controlling the terms they use. The pejoration treadmill sees to it that no matter what term anyone chooses for anything, if it's used by people who don't like that thing, it eventually becomes an insult. The classic examples are "idiot" and "moron" which were once terms used by mental health professionals with no intent to be pejorative. Back when my parents were kids, the polite term for black people in the UK was "coloured." Now that term is considered inapp… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 03:56 PM |
| 1 | All women that said "no uterus, no opinion" and are now begging for mens support on abortion can go shove it.Couldn't agree more, and that's one reason I'm here. I hope if we keep injecting large doses of the moderate viewpoint into this place we can at least head off some of the worst excesses. I would note that if you go to r/Feminism and try the same thing, it absolutely won't be tolerated. I hate to say it because it's such a divisive statement, and I would emphasise that I don't view classical feminism and men's rights as being mutually exclusive; quite the opposite. Still, I think that is an impo… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 03:47 PM |
| 1 | All women that said "no uterus, no opinion" and are now begging for mens support on abortion can go shove it.This in my view is one of the biggest problems of what we might call extremist feminism. It's going to cost them the support of reasonable people on reasonable issues like this. People are going to say what OP says, even when the feminist position is reasonable. And that's not a world I want to live in. | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 02:01 PM |
| 20 | All women that said "no uterus, no opinion" and are now begging for mens support on abortion can go shove it.I must admit the phrase "pathologically unfuckable" brought a smile to my face. Do let's be polite, though... | /r/MensRights | 25/06/22 02:00 PM |
| 12 | Roe vs Wade has been Overturned; If we truly believe in Human Rights, we must support a Women’s Right to ChooseTax goes toward all kinds of things that we might not like. In this particular case, though, you'll find that the relatively low cost of a hopefully very early abortion is a lot less than even the sociopolitical fallout of a family trying to raise a child it really can't handle. Having kids is a responsibility a lot of people know full well they can't handle or don't want and forcing them to do it is insanity. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 09:00 PM |
| 3 | Roe vs Wade has been Overturned; If we truly believe in Human Rights, we must support a Women’s Right to ChooseIn the end you're both correct to some degree. Yes, this gives it back to the states, and yes, some of them will use that authority to make it difficult to get an abortion. As ever, I find myself head in hands at the entire situation. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 04:43 PM |
| 3 | Confirmed woman, Got invited to a group on FB, called 'I MISS THE DAYS MEN WENT TO WAR AND NEVER CAME BACK' I'm gonna say pretty confidently-There's about a 0% chance a group called 'I MISS THE DAYS WE COULD LOBOTOMIZE WOMEN FOR HAVING OPINIONS' would be allowed.To be fair I haven't earned anything other than the fruits of my own labour. I'm not a military man and I have no regrets in that regard, no matter what Samuel Johnson says about it. I've never been to war. The thing about this, though, is that it doesn't really matter whether anyone in particular wants to go through the mental gymnastics of trying to justify it. What matters is that, whether anyone likes it or not, this stuff will tend to alienate and radicalise people. The people who put this … | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 04:41 PM |
| -17 | Roe vs Wade has been Overturned; If we truly believe in Human Rights, we must support a Women’s Right to ChooseI think you might find there's a little bit of contention over that position, at the very least. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 04:27 PM |
| -24 | Roe vs Wade has been Overturned; If we truly believe in Human Rights, we must support a Women’s Right to ChooseAs a non American with good friends and colleagues in the USA, and as someone who very much likes the place, to the point I'm in the middle of immigration paperwork to move there... ... What the fuck, America? Are you actively trying to look backward? What next, reinstate slavery? | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 03:20 PM |
| 5 | Confirmed woman, Got invited to a group on FB, called 'I MISS THE DAYS MEN WENT TO WAR AND NEVER CAME BACK' I'm gonna say pretty confidently-There's about a 0% chance a group called 'I MISS THE DAYS WE COULD LOBOTOMIZE WOMEN FOR HAVING OPINIONS' would be allowed.I shall send a link to a woman I know who in the last decade or two has deployed to at least three warzones we've all heard of. Wonder if they feel the same way about her. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 01:34 PM |
| 1 | Things college students accused of sexual assault should know.So they don't actually have any legal standing. I think my reaction would be to refuse to engage with it until I'd had something approaching disclosure, at least. If they're going to throw me out of the college they've probably already made the decision to do that. I've read too many accounts of young guys being made to defend themselves against allegations they know almost nothing about. And why now? I read that the law which created title IX was enacted in the early seventies. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 08:07 AM |
| 3 | Things college students accused of sexual assault should know.What on earth is going on in American colleges? It sounds like they've got their own parallel legal system set up. How did any of this emerge? What was the genesis? The whole setup stinks of being a kangaroo court for charges that wouldn't otherwise make it through court, as we've said before. Looking at it from the alleged victim's point of view, even, it looks like a setup that might end up not taking your rape allegation to a real court, which can't be what anyone wants... Is it? To what exte… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 01:04 AM |
| 1 | What is your story? What got you into men's rights? I used to be a massive supporter of feminism. I am not now. I do not hate women. I support them. I wish they would do the same. Let's tell our stories.I have no idea why it would make anyone feel powerful to ask questions and have people give reasonable, considered answers. I suspect it won't keep feeling that way for long. I'll see what happens. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 02:59 PM |
| 1 | What is your story? What got you into men's rights? I used to be a massive supporter of feminism. I am not now. I do not hate women. I support them. I wish they would do the same. Let's tell our stories.The thing is, if she keeps asking these simple questions that bring up the basics, it's no bad thing to have answers to them here. I'll happily keep answering them. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 01:48 PM |
| 1 | Radical Feminist Demands Chivalry! Wants Men to Help Fight “Transgenderism” - The New AmericanWell, quite. I have nothing to add to your post, which seem considered and well-meaning. Isn't this more or less what Rowling is being penalised for saying, though? | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 01:04 PM |
| 3 | Radical Feminist Demands Chivalry! Wants Men to Help Fight “Transgenderism” - The New AmericanNot enough cases in either camp to warrant mass panic, imo, but enough to make a discussion about it worthwhile. Yes, I think that's a pretty reasonable summation. There's another aspect to this: if someone's willing to commit rape in the public conveniences, is that person really likely to be concerned that they might have to enter the wrong public conveniences? I mean seriously. "I did brutally do her over, your honour, but in my defence I do have a gender recognition certificate which allows … | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 01:00 PM |
| 3 | Radical Feminist Demands Chivalry! Wants Men to Help Fight “Transgenderism” - The New AmericanI would say that I have in general enjoyed the few of u/bottleblank and u/Ferbuggity's posts that I have seen, though there's something to say about this: reinforces the idea... that men are so desperate to hate women, to attack women, to exploit women in female spaces, that they would willingly undergo serious medical procedures and extensive hormone treatments to gain that access. On the face of it, couldn't agree more. I think the problem that people are concerned about here is connected spec… | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 09:24 AM |
| 3 | Before even THINKING about putting a ring on it, do this...Been together since the late 2000s. Not married. Neither of us want it. Couldn't be happier. We did sign something concerning the house in case one of us gets killed. Can't imagine why anyone would want shared bank accounts. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 08:43 AM |
| 3 | the bashers try to bring up your participation in MRThis is crucially important and should be a big, bold sticky. We need to behave properly and take care to exclude people who don't. Yes, this means we may have to treat them better than they treat us. So be it. This is not a sprint, it's a marathon. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 08:42 AM |
| 7 | Just because I produce testosterone, doesn’t mean I must be physically strongI'm a six foot three, ugly, skinny guy in his mid-forties. I take daily exercise but it's all running; my arms look like twigs. A few months ago I arm-wrestled a twenty-eight-year-old girl for fun. This person is very in shape, really in peak condition, with defined musculature. I beat her easily. Hard to deny guy power is a thing. (By the way, don't do this. It's incredibly easy to spiral fracture people's arms.) | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 08:39 AM |
| 3 | Proposal: all men after the age of 18 should carry a pocket recording device and record their goings on to prevent/strike back against False AccusersI'm currently involved in a discussion in another thread on this subreddit in which it's being seriously proposed that women are sometimes so terrified during sex that they become unable to move or speak or in any way express concern. If we take that seriously, even recording everything is not enough. I have no idea what the solution is. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 08:36 AM |
| 1 | What does feminism want men to do about creepy men?Though there is also a lot of rape and assault not prosecuted For the sake of painful levels of clarity, I think it's worth discussing why that happens. You'll be aware of all this, I'm sure, but I'll write it out for the avoidance of doubt. Most people have sex in private, and as a result a huge number - almost certainly a large majority - of rape cases come down to one person's word against another. A decision not to take such a case to court does not indicate that any part of the criminal jus… | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 08:30 AM |
| 1 | Men have the right to have boundaries in a relationship without being labeled as “controlling”I agree, but I can't say I've ever felt the need to. Normally you'd get to know the person you're partnering up with well enough to know whether that person is likely to do things that you don't like. If someone really likes wearing incredibly revealing gear and you'd rather that person didn't, maybe that's a sign to find someone else. I mean, you could have the conversation and come to a compromise - that's a normal bit of adult interaction - but if it gets to the point where you really aren't … | /r/MensRights | 22/06/22 10:55 PM |
| 9 | Men have the right to have boundaries in a relationship without being labeled as “controlling”You can have preferences. I would expect those preferences to influence who you chose to spend time with. Beyond that it's a matter of degree. Every relationship involves something one person does that irritates the other, from failing to load the dishwasher up. That's inevitable; that's life. Talking about that stuff is normal. Trying to fundamentally change your romantic partner's approach to life is another matter. I know people who've said - "Oh, he spends all Sunday watching sports." "Did h… | /r/MensRights | 22/06/22 10:51 PM |
| 18 | False AccusationsShould the victim that “falsely accused” the rapist be hunted as a witch? If the prosecutors think she deliberately lied, and they have enough evidence that a court will convict her, sure - and I'm sure you'd agree with that. You presumably don't want people using false rape claims as a weapon because it devalues genuine reports. I wouldn't expect it to become common, though, even in a perfect world. It's hard to get convictions for rape because most people have sex in private. For exactly the s… | /r/MensRights | 22/06/22 10:41 PM |
| 5 | False AccusationsI'd be a bit careful about publishing the one in twelve number. Do we know where that data comes from? The reason I ask is that the most widely used false claim rates are based on the number of people (mainly women) who are criminally convicted for making false rape claims. This is vanishingly low because they're just has hard to prosecute as the rape itself, and because many jurisdictions avoid prosecuting them for political reasons. Simultaneously, it's common to hear people complain (probably… | /r/MensRights | 22/06/22 10:31 PM |
| 0 | Woman let’s 16 year old daughter post sexual content on TikTok, loses custody goes to the media, falsely claims rape to pressure judge to reverse custody decision.Neither would I. Also I'm not it any US state. | /r/MensRights | 22/06/22 08:12 PM |
| -13 | Woman let’s 16 year old daughter post sexual content on TikTok, loses custody goes to the media, falsely claims rape to pressure judge to reverse custody decision.In principle I agree. Unfortunately the statutory rape laws don't, and you can downvote me all you want. I don't make the rules. | /r/MensRights | 22/06/22 06:39 PM |
| 1 | What does feminism want men to do about creepy men?Women pulled into the bushes and raped in the park are told the same thing by male judges as the attacker is set free. You didn't scream or fight back, how did he know, you'd need to communicate it. You were running in shorts. Most of what I'm about to say should be redundant but let's be very, very clear about this, then perhaps we can have a sensible dialogue about it. I would have to see some examples of judges in any first-world country saying anything even remotely comparable to what you su… | /r/MensRights | 22/06/22 11:22 AM |
| 2 | What does feminism want men to do about creepy men?The male version of that is "she threatened that she'd cry rape if I didn't do what she wanted." No woman has to get physical herself. The state will obediently do it for her. I would say that the very common claim that people have been raped on the basis they became unwilling halfway through but didn't say anything "because they were scared" is utter pigshit. Contrary to popular opinion, most men are at great pains to be the good guy during sex, to ensure the woman has a great time, feels safe … | /r/MensRights | 22/06/22 01:31 AM |
| -1 | UK Man, 34, who was arrested for stealing a sausage roll hanged himself after he was beaten up and abused after police wrongly named him as a paedophile on his custody release papersI see no evidence of that. In the main, the police are as terrified as any other public sector employees of being seen as -ists or -phobes and will toe the line of critical social justice, at least in public. Behind closed doors most police officers lean well right of centre politically; it should be no surprise that it's a job which attracts conservative authoritarians. I would expect to see more actual, genuine prejudice among police, on average. What we're seeing here is, I suspect, nothing t… | /r/MensRights | 21/06/22 11:50 PM |
| 27 | When Women become menThat, of course, is the memoir of one person, someone who we might reasonably expect to be predisposed to perceive all those things whether they're real or not. We should be cautious about accepting this at face value simply because it confirms our own suspicions. That said, it has often occurred to me that many of the things hardline feminists complain about are explicable by either an overarching, all-consuming patriarchal conspiracy, or by some women being massively self-absorbed and having c… | /r/MensRights | 21/06/22 02:30 PM |
| 3 | What does feminism want men to do about creepy men?it’s not personal Police officers stop and search black people disproportionately. "It's not personal?" Think again. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/22 11:43 AM |
| 4 | What does feminism want men to do about creepy men?I think that's more or less what I said, although I'd expand on it and say that bars where "the entire purpose is to get drunk" is probably not a great idea, for this and a million other reasons. People do things they regret when drunk. All kinds of people, all kinds of things. Mass intoxication as a hangout pastime isn't a great idea, let's face it. More than with you on the responsibility thing. Obviously if some guy has plied some girl with drink and dragged her comatose form off by the hair,… | /r/MensRights | 21/06/22 10:03 AM |
| 0 | What does feminism want men to do about creepy men?Don't overanalyse it. Perhaps she was just looking for a friend. I understand your concern but if we're going to start reacting to situations like that, we can read bad intent into almost any circumstance - which is what a lot of women are conditioned to do. Safety-consciousness is fine, paranoia doesn't help you or anyone else. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/22 08:57 AM |
| 3 | What does feminism want men to do about creepy men?It often isn't really expressed like that, hence phrases like "yes all men." That's not a safety concern, that absolutely is a desire to shame men. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/22 08:55 AM |
| -1 | What does feminism want men to do about creepy men?Grim as that is, if someone's so drunk that they aren't going to remember what the hell happened the next morning, that probably isn't a great time to be jumping into bed with them. I would be the first to admit this is a matter of degree and if we banned anyone who's a few beers into the evening from having sex (as some people seem to want to) then I suspect the birth rate would plummet to near zero. Still, zero-recall-the-following-day is pretty profoundly intoxicated, and I'd expect that to b… | /r/MensRights | 21/06/22 08:54 AM |
| 1 | What does feminism want men to do about creepy men?Oh come on, if you disagree with her please at least explain why, rather than throwing that sort of shade. Use your words, etc. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/22 08:47 AM |
| 11 | What does feminism want men to do about creepy men?Approaching a girl in a club is not a sin or creepy. In an ideal world I would agree. I should emphasise, I've been in a long term, live-in relationship for almost fifteen years, so I'm not pushing a personal agenda here. Still, I recognise that the situation for young men is grim; it is the social fashion in 2022 for young single women to treat young single men with more or less bare-faced hostility, on the assumption that all men are insert-awful-stereotype-here. I have no idea how young guys … | /r/MensRights | 21/06/22 08:39 AM |
| 10 | 'The fact that we're considering making misandry a hate crime should concern everyone who believes in equality'men are the privileged class A lot of people have put a lot of effort into arguing with that proposal, and they might have a point. But even if we accept that men are somehow privileged on average - so what if they are? Statistically, black people commit more crime than white people, but nobody in their right mind is calling black people the "criminal class" or campaigning for police brutality against black people to somehow be OK. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/22 07:23 AM |
| 4 | 'The fact that we're considering making misandry a hate crime should concern everyone who believes in equality'It's the kind of article about which I find myself questioning more or less every other sentence - "is it?", "do they?" and "are you sure?" At the end of the day the author thinks it's propaganda, but I suspect the editor of that website probably published it knowing full well the reaction it would get. Smith is, to an extent, already the punchline of a joke at her own expense. What I would say is that anyone who feels the need to go over there and comment on it should do so politely and reasona… | /r/MensRights | 21/06/22 07:02 AM |
| 1 | FeminismI try not to hate anyone, but I do think that everyone has a responsibility to examine their assumptions and to be aware of the damage their beliefs may be inflicting on other people. The more convinced people become of the rightness of their views, the less flexible those views become, and the less liable to modification. Social media has a lot to answer for here, as it very efficiently creates echo chambers that entrench people's views. Even so, I'm not going to in any sense excuse someone who… | /r/MensRights | 20/06/22 11:43 PM |
| 1 | FeminismI'll vote that up. I'm constantly dismayed by the fact that very few posters want to accept that a lot of the deepest, nastiest disagreements we discuss here are basically semantic arguments anyway, and that multiple reasonable conclusions exist. It makes agreement and any long term solution very difficult. | /r/MensRights | 20/06/22 10:47 PM |
| 6 | FeminismNo, it isn't. | /r/MensRights | 20/06/22 07:14 PM |
| 0 | UK: Women's rights activists are 'silenced' by trans-rights mob clad in black as Bristol anarchists tell feminists they are 'next' after Feminists held a rally verbally attacking men on fathers day. Op: Crazy world.I'm not sure which side to cheer in this scenario. I say we let them fight it out - maybe run some sort of book? | /r/MensRights | 20/06/22 09:41 AM |
| 6 | men "hate" foreplay because they get nothing out of it.Christ on a bike, I despair at the quality of sex some people must be getting for these complaints to come up. | /r/MensRights | 19/06/22 09:41 PM |
| 1 | oh jeeeeeeezusIt's always worth caveating that stuff. It's all true to a degree, but I personally don't want to be tarred with the brush of men being violent, because it doesn't describe me. That's sort of what I think we're here to push for (it's certainly what I'm here to push for). None of us are slaves to the statistics, men or women, and that's what's so often misunderstood. | /r/MensRights | 19/06/22 07:01 PM |
| 5 | oh jeeeeeeezusRead the rest of it. He does give the kid what the kid wants in the end. | /r/MensRights | 19/06/22 07:00 PM |
| 6 | Be picky. Very picky. And remember you don’t owe anyone a relationship.My wife is two weeks younger than me. We've even had comments about that, but honestly, it's just funny at that point 😀 | /r/MensRights | 19/06/22 11:57 AM |
| 3 | So this happened lol it was a discussion about men being better at saving and setting themselves up for retirement it was going pretty good until this weirdo showed up. She tried to blame the patriarchy of course so I called her out with numbers and she flipped quick af😭🤣Yes. I know. I'm just pointing out the fact that the complainer can't even spell the term. | /r/MensRights | 18/06/22 03:11 PM |
| 1 | You're getting a partner, not a credit card co-signer. Money is a requirement for love now? This is hilarious.Eh, well. I'm well west of you and it's not uncommon. We have friends where she's a doctor (rich) and he's a software engineer (less rich). Someone's always going to earn a different amount to the other. I can't get worked up about it. Can't see what vows have to do with it. | /r/MensRights | 18/06/22 03:10 PM |
| 5 | Majority of American Men Fear Being Deemed “Creepy” According to New ResearchIt can be. Obviously, if a woman is attracted to a guy who approaches her, she's less likely to react negatively to his attention. | /r/MensRights | 18/06/22 02:55 PM |
| 1 | Majority of American Men Fear Being Deemed “Creepy” According to New ResearchAs ever, I won't vote you down for asking. No, I don't think the situation is as you describe. I think most adult men in 2022 are painfully aware of what you might call women's issues and have been for decades. The fact that it's not a good idea to bother people who've asked not to be bothered, touch people without permission or refuse people jobs based on characteristics they can't change is not a new idea. It's an old and well established idea. Essentially everyone knows about this, has for de… | /r/MensRights | 18/06/22 02:52 PM |
| 9 | Majority of American Men Fear Being Deemed “Creepy” According to New ResearchThe real question is how one is actually supposed to start a relationship. Any approach by any man to any woman under any circumstances (including speed dating and dating sites can be deemed "creepy" if the woman doesn't like the guy. If she really wants to stick the knife in, she can report the guy for more or less anything, and he'll spend at least a night in jail and have his reputation ruined (considering that's happened to people who've barely met, it's not too much of a stretch). | /r/MensRights | 18/06/22 02:34 PM |
| 1 | You're getting a partner, not a credit card co-signer. Money is a requirement for love now? This is hilarious.The answer in our case is that our incomes used to be much more comparable and she encountered a few strokes of good luck, but hey, I'm not going to complain! | /r/MensRights | 18/06/22 02:32 PM |
| 5 | So this happened lol it was a discussion about men being better at saving and setting themselves up for retirement it was going pretty good until this weirdo showed up. She tried to blame the patriarchy of course so I called her out with numbers and she flipped quick af😭🤣Genuinely laughed in the line for lunch at that one 🙂 | /r/MensRights | 18/06/22 11:11 AM |
| 6 | So this happened lol it was a discussion about men being better at saving and setting themselves up for retirement it was going pretty good until this weirdo showed up. She tried to blame the patriarchy of course so I called her out with numbers and she flipped quick af😭🤣The hell is a patrichorial (sic) society anyway? | /r/MensRights | 18/06/22 09:23 AM |
| 3 | You're getting a partner, not a credit card co-signer. Money is a requirement for love now? This is hilarious.I make more than the national average, but my wife makes a lot more than the national average. Several times more, in fact. People constantly ask her embarrassing questions about why she's "dating down" (We own a house together and have been together for more than twenty years). | /r/MensRights | 18/06/22 09:21 AM |
| 2 | What is your story? What got you into men's rights? I used to be a massive supporter of feminism. I am not now. I do not hate women. I support them. I wish they would do the same. Let's tell our stories.For crying out loud, why are people voting u/peaceful-domination down? There's no reason to assume bad faith here, and even if there were, dialogue is crucial. | /r/MensRights | 18/06/22 09:14 AM |
| 3 | What is your story? What got you into men's rights? I used to be a massive supporter of feminism. I am not now. I do not hate women. I support them. I wish they would do the same. Let's tell our stories.I was a member of a union which began excluding straight white men from events because they were straight white men. I had no interest in attending these courses, but as a committee member of many years standing, saw it as part of my responsibility to object. I was treated as if I'd spoken up in support of Hitler, cursed at and lied about, with official support from full-time union workers. Even before that, I'd been volunteering at an event when a female union official walked up to me and said … | /r/MensRights | 18/06/22 09:11 AM |
| 1 | Why does this woman think is it mens duty to help this woman?To me this isn't even a men-women issue. I would hesitate to get involved in anything like that, especially in a public transport situation where there's no easy escape for anyone. | /r/MensRights | 17/06/22 09:32 AM |
| 1 | it's hard to tell if alot of the nonsense that we see in feminism is here to stay or if it's just young women who haven't gotten past us vs them yet and will overcome this in the future.I think you may be right in that a lot of the most vocal online unpleasantness is coming from young women who aren't very experienced in life. These people are very easy to radicalise and social media is a very, very, very powerful way to do it; I think that the popularity of critical social justice is just one way in which the likes of Facebook are an absolute blight on society. The problem is that most negative behaviours - racism, sexism, etc - are frowned on by society. Conversely, a lot of … | /r/MensRights | 17/06/22 09:28 AM |
| 2 | 'They can go to hell!': Right rejects push to force women to register for the draftThis sort of thing is why I think it's a huge mistake to try and brand certain sexist or anti-sexist rhetoric or campaigning along political lines. It's a distraction from the real disagreement, it just obscures the real division, and causes people to just bitch at each other for being the colour of politics they hate. Couldn't agree more. The concept of trying to fit all politics into a simple, monodimensional left-right spectrum has always been a ludicrous oversimplification. Modern critical s… | /r/MensRights | 17/06/22 09:16 AM |
| 9 | How do feminists reconcile demands for male allies while stereotyping all men as prowling creeps?I was going to say - the very worst of them will believe anything they feel nice about in the moment. Reconciling contradictory beliefs is a waste of time if that's your mindset. | /r/MensRights | 16/06/22 08:59 PM |
| 2 | Was called misogynist at work this week for keeping my door open when alone with girls and women.Until I've established a level of trust (which takes a long time, months, and I don't do lightly) I will never under any circumstance be alone with any woman other than my long-term, live-in partner or my mother. Younger, attractive women who make a more plausible claimant make me even more cautious. Sorry, ladies. If you don't like it, speak out against false claims. | /r/MensRights | 16/06/22 08:57 PM |
| 6 | “most men are lazy, selfish, thoughtless, lying…”: Blatant man-hating post on feminist subreddit highly-upvoted. Conveniently ignored by subs that monitor hate subreddits because hatred of men is culturally celebratedWe're both self-employed, but I work from home, so I'd inevitably end up doing the childcare. I'm very pleased that one of the things we agree on is that kids don't look like a fun time. | /r/MensRights | 16/06/22 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Victoria coffee shop faces backlash for 'deprioritizing the hiring of white cis males'My partner hits these issues. She's an African-born woman from a family which escaped sectarian violence in their homeland, losing almost everything they owned. She's also white and of considerably higher than average income. Critical social justice people really don't know how to react. It's sort of hilarious. | /r/MensRights | 15/06/22 08:54 PM |
| 1 | In major victory, Colorado court finds that accused students at private universities are entitled to fair hearingsThe problem is that schools don't want news stories about crime on their campus popping up Er... tough shit? The fact that one of their students might have committed a crime is no reflection on the institution, anyway, or at least it shouldn't be. You see, the problem is that none of these claims would be provable in an actual criminal court. Well that's mildly horrifying. | /r/MensRights | 15/06/22 11:19 AM |
| 11 | Tried to tip a waitress where I work. Got called in for “flirting” with a female staff.I actually couldn't give a shit about the paranoid nutters. There will always be a certain nonzero number of paranoid nutters. Nothing you can do about it; just avoid them. The problem is the non-paranoid, non-nutters who (for perfectly understandable reasons) are terrified to oppose even the most paranoid, nutbag ravings of the paranoid nutters because they will (and they will) risk career and pension if they do. We're trapped in a hellish situation in which the vast majority of people know ver… | /r/MensRights | 15/06/22 09:57 AM |
| 1 | In major victory, Colorado court finds that accused students at private universities are entitled to fair hearingsNo kidding. That's what I'd assumed was the case. Horrified to find that there are kangaroo courts trying to handle horrendous sex crimes at that level. Honestly I think if I really was someone who'd been raped I'd find the whole thing completely patronising. Why would one not simply go to the police? | /r/MensRights | 15/06/22 07:12 AM |
| 17 | Tried to tip a waitress where I work. Got called in for “flirting” with a female staff.This is my reaction precisely. I've never been referred to by any of the terms you mention in person or online, but I've been called "beta" on this very subreddit. My reaction? Well, I guess you don't have to talk to me... | /r/MensRights | 15/06/22 07:07 AM |
| 22 | Victoria coffee shop faces backlash for 'deprioritizing the hiring of white cis males'I would be interested to know if anyone ever has been fined for discriminating against straight white men. The reason I ask is that as recently as a few years ago, barely pre-pandemic, in my part of the world, people were being quite careful about not breaking the letter of the law in this regard. I saw several group emails go out to people advising them how to come as close as possible to discriminating against white men without actually coming into conflict with the law. Often this meant disgu… | /r/MensRights | 14/06/22 10:52 PM |
| 2 | In major victory, Colorado court finds that accused students at private universities are entitled to fair hearingsI take your point, and people have lost their livelihoods over potentially-bogus YouTube rulings. That said, YouTube is not generally ruling on criminal cases, much less extremely serious criminal offences such as rape or sexual assault. My understanding is that in most jurisdictions, anyone becoming aware of a criminal offence being committed is required to report it to the police. Either way, I would take the firm stance that no university has any business attempting to adjudicate on potential… | /r/MensRights | 14/06/22 10:44 PM |
| 11 | In major victory, Colorado court finds that accused students at private universities are entitled to fair hearingsThere's something I don't understand about the USA approach to this stuff. Universities seem to operate a sort of strange parallel legal system there. If one was a student in most of the world and had a complaint about another student, one would go to the police. Regardless of where anyone might be studying, a crime is a crime and the people who deal with crimes are the police, not some educational institution. In the USA it seems to somehow be the colleges that deal with even very serious crime… | /r/MensRights | 14/06/22 08:13 AM |
| 2 | According to r/Feminism women don’t commit domestic violence.I would imagine (because they've given me no facts) that what they're saying is a reasonable interpretation... some of the time. The assumption that it's part of an ideology is completely unsupported and, in my view, absurd. I suspect there's a bit of projecting going on there. A lot of people who see themselves as politically active do their best to see everything through the lens of ideology, sometimes twisting reality into a Mobius loop to make the facts fit their preconceptions. And sure, ev… | /r/MensRights | 13/06/22 07:35 PM |
| 4 | Many comments mentioned how this defense is brought up by racists/sexists who like to generalize. Amazing they couldn't see how 'all men' is the same thing.I think the best response to this is simply "why are you telling me all this, if it's nothing to do with me." | /r/MensRights | 13/06/22 03:51 PM |
| 2 | Men, have you experienced sexual harassment/assault from women that was downplayed because of the gender roles involved?If you consider unwanted hugging to be sexual assault, and I'm honestly not sure if any court ever has, I've been sexually assaulted dozens of times, often by people who laughed in my face as they did it. | /r/MensRights | 13/06/22 03:40 PM |
| -4 | Literally portraying Johnny Depp as the Devil. How delusional can you be?I don't know nearly enough about either of the antagonists in this case to make any specific comment about either of them; my impression is that they deserved each other, but I hesitate to say even that. One thing that may be worth bearing in mind is that courts, particularly civil courts not bound by the beyond-reasonable-doubt standard, sometimes make decisions which many people would not consider in line with natural justice. I have no idea what happened here as I haven't followed it nearly c… | /r/MensRights | 13/06/22 08:49 AM |
| 2 | Lets talk about the argument "men commit more violent crime"I've used that example myself. Nobody should be talking about "white privilege" or "toxic masculinity" unless they're also willing to use the phrase "black criminality." Which, to be clear, nobody ever should. | /r/MensRights | 13/06/22 06:38 AM |
| 5 | Lets talk about the argument "men commit more violent crime"This is the problem with quite a lot of what we might call hardline, fundamentalist, wannabe-progressive politics. Not only is it not actually particularly progressive, not only is it divisive, it's horrendously polarising, as is a lot of modern political rhetoric. Politicians, which is a word that now includes people like the lovely Michele Dauber who we recently heard about who treat academic appointments as a soapbox, have found it's very easy to gain political capital by treating the world a… | /r/MensRights | 12/06/22 06:47 PM |
| -2 | Stanford Professor and Amber Heard defender Michele Dauber on menNo need to put the blame back on men. Crucial distinction: not men. A man. This is why we need to be very, very hard on people who actually do misbehave around women, to any degree, simply because it creates people like this and (even though it shouldn't) it reflects on the rest of us. And, yes, because if this woman has been made this way by a horrible experience, she did not really deserve it. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/22 04:39 PM |
| 3 | Lets talk about the argument "men commit more violent crime"Yeah, and that ambiguity of wording is exactly why we don't put things that way. It's not as if we have any reason to play word games here. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/22 03:58 PM |
| 8 | Lets talk about the argument "men commit more violent crime""Men commit more violent crime" implies that the average man is more likely to commit violent crime than the average woman (this may just barely be true, but not by a lot). "Most violent crimes are committed by men" allows for the possibility that a small group of men are much more likely than the overall human average to commit these crimes, which certainly is true. All of this comes from the fact that men's behaviour in general - for better and worse - is on much more of a curve than women's, … | /r/MensRights | 12/06/22 01:43 PM |
| 13 | Men, how do you feel about the argument “men created society so men can’t complain about society”?It's an intrinsically sexist statement, on the basis that it holds men responsible for things for which they have no responsiblity on the basis they're the same sex as the people who did. That's what prejudice is. And even that relies on the assumption that "men created society," which is a can of worms in itself. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/22 12:29 PM |
| 2 | Stanford Professor and Amber Heard defender Michele Dauber on menYou have to wonder what happened to this woman. Someone needs to find a plushie and take her through the "show me where the nasty man touched you" process. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/22 12:24 PM |
| 9 | "real men"For what it's worth I think a lot of people agree entirely. It's always worth bearing in mind that what we see on r/mensrights are the outliers; the way people react to them is telling, but you're seeing a slice of society selected more or less only on its interest in social media. My wife and I have what I'd consider to be a very balanced partnership. She works away a lot and when she's coming back for what may be just a few days, I'll work my tail off getting the house in order - not because s… | /r/MensRights | 11/06/22 10:09 AM |
| 5 | Hey guys: According to Australia you can all stop worrying!The idea that it's somehow good for society to have people live in fear of being accused of something they did not do is utterly repugnant and anyone making that claim should be ashamed. On a more general note, what's not often discussed is that there are at least three possible conclusions we could draw from any allegation of rape. Usually, we discuss allegations in the context of two possible outcomes: either it happened, or it didn't. The truth, though, is that there are at least three realis… | /r/MensRights | 11/06/22 09:50 AM |
| 0 | Misandry experience at collegeDepends what was being discussed, really, but as u/63daddy puts it, it's about the weakest argument anyone can ever make. | /r/MensRights | 11/06/22 09:32 AM |
| 2 | British MP to parliament: "A third of domestic abuse victims are male, yet male victims are defined as victims of 'violence against women', semantic nonsense, mockery of equality, will gov publish a specific strategy?" Minister: "If done, there will be complaints from women's organizations".Sure, but you don't want to do that in the middle of central London. If you're in the USA, think of midtown Manhattan - you just don't. | /r/MensRights | 11/06/22 09:31 AM |
| 17 | Lets talk about the argument "men commit more violent crime"The two statements "Men commit more violent crime" and "most violent crimes are committed by men" are subtly but crucially different. | /r/MensRights | 10/06/22 09:29 PM |
| 8 | British MP to parliament: "A third of domestic abuse victims are male, yet male victims are defined as victims of 'violence against women', semantic nonsense, mockery of equality, will gov publish a specific strategy?" Minister: "If done, there will be complaints from women's organizations".Possibly there should be a law against it, but that's what it should be - a law, subject to all the checks and balances we have on the creation of law. What it should not be is a series of vaguely-worded posters which could mean anything. The reason people become concerned about this stuff is the potential for misuse and mistakes. Consider Mark Pearson, who was dragged through the courts for walking past someone on a railway station platform. The problem was not so much that the woman who accuse… | /r/MensRights | 10/06/22 05:35 PM |
| 12 | British MP to parliament: "A third of domestic abuse victims are male, yet male victims are defined as victims of 'violence against women', semantic nonsense, mockery of equality, will gov publish a specific strategy?" Minister: "If done, there will be complaints from women's organizations".I actually put in a sentence about that then deleted it as unnecessary, but you're absolutely right. There is that quote from White, the police officer, who claims they're going to "record them as crimes" even though they are not crimes, which is why I concentrated on that. Similar concerns attend things which people refer to as "hate crimes," which is a terrible bit of weasel wordery that seems to make certain kinds of behaviour a crime, whereas in reality what it really does is make certain ty… | /r/MensRights | 10/06/22 03:40 PM |
| 56 | British MP to parliament: "A third of domestic abuse victims are male, yet male victims are defined as victims of 'violence against women', semantic nonsense, mockery of equality, will gov publish a specific strategy?" Minister: "If done, there will be complaints from women's organizations".It's not quite clear that it's a law. On the London Underground, there are now posters which read, and I quote, "intrusive staring of a sexual nature is sexual harrassment and is not tolerated." It gives non-emergency hotline numbers for reports. It is not clear exactly who defines "intrusive" or "staring," what they mean by "a sexual nature" and by whom this behaviour is is "not tolerated". Several other posters exist which warn against upskirting (well, fair enough) and catcalling (okay), but … | /r/MensRights | 10/06/22 01:26 PM |
| 5 | Men’s Issues are a Joke.Even if what you're saying is true, it'd still be crucial that we continue the dialogue. It's incredibly rare to have people turn up and ask questions like this and we need to respond as reasonably as we can, almost regardless of the question asked. Remember: refusing to discuss the issue is one of the favourite tactics of critical social justice, and we should not stoop to that level In any case, I'm not sure that what you're saying is true. From what I read of u/peaceful-domination, she's aski… | /r/MensRights | 10/06/22 01:08 PM |
| 6 | The real reason why most men in my life have always regretted opening about their emotionsI suspect u/Abstract_Knight is pointing out, correctly, that the so-called patriarchy has somehow led to many advantages for women, including a longer life (and typically an earlier retirement). Arguing over who has it worse at this point, at least in reasonably well-run free-world countries, is not a very good idea, because we're now way past the point where "worse" is a dependent almost entirely on what you want out of life. | /r/MensRights | 10/06/22 08:34 AM |
| 22 | Men’s Issues are a Joke.Yes. And if you start salami-slicing those subcategories thinly enough you'll always be able to find some sort of disparity. | /r/MensRights | 10/06/22 08:28 AM |
| 17 | Men’s Issues are a Joke.On so many levels, yes (though I won't vote you down as some people have. It's a completely reasonable question.) There are lots of examples of specific benefits which other people have given. The fundamental one, though, and the benefit from which I think all these others arise, is simply that it is much more socially acceptable for women to act in a stereotypically masculine manner than it is for men to act in a stereotypically feminine manner. I'm a nerd - a tall, ugly, skinny nerd. I'm not a… | /r/MensRights | 10/06/22 08:25 AM |
| 2 | Woman stabs man in the back of the head in unprovoked attack because he rejected her, doesn't get sent to prison lolInevitably, it'll be interpreted as anything some woman thinks it is. The accused man's experience of this will be having a perfectly normal day with nothing out of the ordinary in it, and then months later the police will turn up on his doorstep and arrest him for staring at someone he has, to his knowledge, never met in his life. It's the Mark Pearson situation all over again. Prove you didn't glance at one of the tens of thousands of people you've passed on the tube in the last few months. Ho… | /r/MensRights | 10/06/22 07:26 AM |
| 3 | Woman jailed for 3 years over false rape claim against ex-boyfriendWell, maybe, but then you have to deal with corner cases such as obviously meritless stuff being reported by nutjobs. This is the Mark Pearson thing and it's happening even under current rules. The police in most jurisdictions (despite claiming otherwise) absolutely have the discretion to disregard certain reports of crime and they often do that in order to avoid wasting massive public resources investigating things that will, for whatever reason, clearly go nowhere. It's obviously ripe for abus… | /r/MensRights | 09/06/22 12:55 AM |
| 7 | Woman jailed for 3 years over false rape claim against ex-boyfriendBetter yet, listen to all alleged victims. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 11:58 AM |
| 1 | The censorship/banning is realWell that's sort of what I mean. "Maintaining strict hierarchies" sounds a lot like critical social justice. "Dismantling power structures and oppressive hierarchies" also sounds a lot like critical social justice, depending on how you define those things. My real purpose here, though, is to take the pragmatic approach. I don't find the traditional left-right political spectrum particularly useful for exactly these reasons and I try not to use it. I have a little more time for the quadrant thing… | /r/MensRights | 07/06/22 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Mods here should be a little more active and stop extremists and radical feminists / trolls who act abominably.Unfortunately, people are allowed to be unpleasant to you, and even to your son. Banning the opposing point of view is half the problem with what we're fighting against. It's worth it. | /r/MensRights | 07/06/22 08:53 PM |
| 1 | The censorship/banning is realI'm pointing out that hardline feminism (and critical social justice in general) is not really something that associates very well with traditional political positions. Enthusiasts of it would probably claim to be on the left, but I question that claim. Historically the people most likely to be authoritarian and to divide people based on their immutable characteristics were viewed as being on the extreme right. After all, even the people who ran Germany after the mid-1930s called it "national so… | /r/MensRights | 07/06/22 07:31 AM |
| 0 | The censorship/banning is realI'm also leftist trash and I'm still here. This stuff is not really an issue of traditional political positions. The political horseshoe (look it up) makes this everyone's problem. Critical social justice is practically fascistic. | /r/MensRights | 07/06/22 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Join Our Campaign — #UberHatesMen — Fight Uber’s Discrimination Against MenYou know what, you're absolutely right. I'm reminded in this instance of the way exactly that sort of Persian Gulf-style Islam (the hugely enclosing clothes, etc) is being imposed on places like Afghanistan where that kind of cultural setup was never traditional. Should have kept that more in mind. | /r/MensRights | 06/06/22 11:06 PM |
| 18 | Woman stabs man in the back of the head in unprovoked attack because he rejected her, doesn't get sent to prison lolI think I'd probably go with this: A conventionally attractive young woman is standing on the tube. We hear her inner monologue as she obsessively enumerates all of the terrible things she assumes the guy opposite is thinking - he's objectifying her, he's planning to attack her, he's a terrible human. It's not fair - she should be able to wear this outfit without people staring! She's going to post on facebook about this. She knows her friends will all agree with her and the guy deserves all the… | /r/MensRights | 06/06/22 08:31 PM |
| 4 | Join Our Campaign — #UberHatesMen — Fight Uber’s Discrimination Against MenI'm sure that's going to do my Uber feedback rating a lot of good. | /r/MensRights | 06/06/22 03:28 PM |
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