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| 3 | What's the reason for why people need a 'hoe phase'?A lot of people don’t want to eat steak over and over and over again, even if they think it’s “good”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/23 01:16 AM |
| 2 | Why do conventionally attractive woman almost always date high status men?You say this like it’s a bad thing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 10:31 PM |
| 1 | Why do conventionally attractive woman almost always date high status men?Nobody wants to necessarily date the town bicycle, but there are many guys (even high status ones) who would take her for a ride if she was attractive (go ask Tiger Woods). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 10:29 PM |
| – | There's a lot of stay at home wife/mom relationships, they just occur under the disguise of the woman having a fun job like a yoga/fitness instructor or running a shop.I know a lot of people teaching yoga that are completely broke. Making “shitloads of money” teaching yoga is definitely not the norm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 12:08 PM |
| 1 | Most women's gendered expectations of men are toxic, and it helped to form the manosphere into what it is today.Hard disagree. Who exactly shapes “the environment” you’re talking about? Gee, I guess it would be other men and women in society… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 01:44 PM |
| 8 | ICK Discussion ThreadIn my case, I encountered a string of women while dating who boasted of how rich there previous boyfriends were. One talked about how some rich guy brought her out on his boat, another talked about how some previous rich BF had an apartment decked out in a specific brand of expensive furniture, etc etc. Every time this came up, I was always like…ok, so? Am I supposed to be impressed by this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 06:43 PM |
| 0 | I regularly see women say on here that men overrate their own appearance, but women are guilty of this to a significantly higher degree.Jennifer Lawrence falls in this category too. Like a 6-7 in real life at best. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 05:17 PM |
| 4 | I regularly see women say on here that men overrate their own appearance, but women are guilty of this to a significantly higher degree.The problem among women, as I see it, isn’t so much the truly unattractive women - I think truly unattractive folks of both sexes generally know it, barring maybe a few delusional people. The issue is actually the 5-6 type chick who thinks she’s a “dead sexy” 9-10, which seems to be a fairly common phenomenon in big cities (doubly so if the chick is educated and has a “big job”). She’s not exactly unattractive, but she aspires to a kind of partner who is simply way out of her league (and who isn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 05:08 PM |
| 4 | American capitalism has destroyed datingI agree with you. People talk about how bad 2023 is, and while there is indeed a lot of bad shit going on at the moment, consider that 100 years ago (1923) you would have just witnessed one massive world war, with the next one coming in 10-15 years after a massive economic depression. Oh, and the rate of infectious disease, etc would still be sky high. And healthcare actually sucked. Things used to be way worse, guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 12:29 PM |
| 4 | American capitalism has destroyed datingQuestion to you: where are you going in America when you visit? If you’re going to very big cities, NYC, LA etc then yes that unfortunately is the vibe you will get. Elsewhere, especially in rural America, the vibe is very different. I used to live in the South, and while I detested the South for a lot of things and ultimately left it, one thing you can’t say about southerners is that they’re not “authentic”. A lot of people from other countries, for instance, tend to visit NYC and think they un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 12:23 PM |
| 8 | CMV: TRP romanticizes men and demonizes womenMy own experiences are very similar to yours | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 02:16 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Dumping awkward or unattractive guys into the Alaskan wilderness in late winter might make them more attractive.Or, alternatively, you can sign up for an actual war where you’ll get shot at. There’s one going on right now - in Ukraine - and I hear they’re taking volunteers. This actually sounds like a hilarious/tragic movie script: a group of nerdy/bored/soft/possibly incel young American dudes go to Ukraine to fight in the war to toughen themselves up. Like an even more demented version of Fight Club. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 11:46 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Approaching Tons of Women as a strategy to not be alone will always workThe problem is whether the girl who goes “sure” is some sort of total nutcase. Which is pretty likely. I think a lot of guys don’t seem to grasp that “screening partners” is a two way process. Believe me, there are some girls you don’t want to be associated with, and some you absolutely do not want to have sex with. You’re not going to find this out without at least one date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/23 06:42 PM |
| 1 | CMV: We have turned relationships into leisure, most relationships are no longer focused on starting a family or working towards a common goal, as a result people are naturally gonna get pickier with their optionsI think even the people who are getting married “for the right reasons” are still prioritizing leisure and entertainment value much more than people used to in the past. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/23 02:44 PM |
| 17 | 90% of what gives women ""the ick" is just men failing to live up to masculine gender stereotypesThis is a better analogy than most may realize. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/23 04:28 AM |
| 2 | Talking to women "as people" first usually gets the guy friendzonedI’ve always thought this was silly, too. In my experience, most women know exactly what’s going on when they get approached by a guy trying to be friendly with them, and they tend to carefully set up the situation so they get everything they want out of those interactions while also deliberately avoiding the question of whether he gets anything he wants. News flash: guys want to fuck, people want to fuck, and a woman should never be surprised if it later comes out that the male “friend” wants to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 12:45 PM |
| 15 | I've had 40 Hinge dates. I firmly believe a woman's initial interest in a man has a window of time to it.Fully agree. Also, a lot of OLD “relationships” have a fast expiration date anyway, and even if you have sex often you’ll find the chick fading out after 6-8 weeks. Sometimes things go longer (or even a lot longer) but the bottom line is that many women in an OLD environment will start losing interest by that time whether sex happens or not. I also strongly agree that the chick’s interest can be gauged by how interested she is in sex. If she delays and delays, she’s probably not that into it reg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/23 10:56 PM |
| 5 | Average men gain nothing from being sex positive and against purity culture.Even if everyone has the right to do something, people are still allowed to hold opinions about other people’s behavior. I wouldn’t change the fundamental rights we have in our society. But everyone is still allowed to have an opinion on how people behave, and to like and not like certain things. “Liberty” largely means that the government won’t interfere in your decisions. It absolutely does not mean that everyone else has to be on the same page with what you choose to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 05:42 PM |
| 2 | Social circles is a "don't shit where you eat" scenario slightly better than hitting on coworkersI agree with OP to an extent, but the thing about social circles is that usually there are “core members” and then lots of people who may join in at times, but are really on the periphery - acquaintances, new members of the group, or even just “friends of friends” who aren’t actually part of the group etc. Usually these folks are the ones you might ask out. (Some core members will go around dating/fucking other core members too, but usually this doesn’t go as well unless it’s a very sexually ope… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/23 10:56 PM |
| 6 | Why do you think male loneliness and decline in dating is finally getting mainstream coverage?Agreed. Data can be misleading, and even if it’s good it can also be misinterpreted or used in ways that don’t actually help move things forward. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/23 11:20 PM |
| 9 | Why do you think male loneliness and decline in dating is finally getting mainstream coverage?In big American cities where everyone is all about their careers and “living their best life (without kids)”, I think this is more common than anyone wants to admit. That DINK phenomenon, and all. I’ve even heard of single child free UMC women refer to themselves as “SINKs” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/23 11:05 PM |
| 21 | Why do you think male loneliness and decline in dating is finally getting mainstream coverage?The pattern I’ve noticed with different economic strata and choosing to have kids is this: Upper: money is no object. It’s all personal preference, especially since you can pay other people to do the entire job for you if you want. UMC - “oh I don’t really want to deal with kids, it would get in the way of my career and self actualization, and kids are icky anyway, and plus kids are expensive!” etc etc, so either they have none or they wait until they’re nearly 40 to have one half diseased, unde… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/23 10:58 PM |
| 2 | Do you think that this whole men vs women , alpha - Sigma terminology, push for trad culture has got increasingly mainstream since last year?Bravo. Nailed it 100% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/23 01:31 AM |
| 1 | Male Birth Control Will Never Be Commonly UsedI have never understood what the big hubbub is about male birth control. It doesn’t change anything about the male/female dynamic whatsoever. Wear condoms, for crying out loud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/23 01:29 AM |
| 2 | In the Old days the Redpill claimed that "Game" was the most important thing, in my observation the Manosphere transitioned hard to Looks/Money/Status maxxing theory, why did the Manosphere abonden game?Having done quite a bit of OLD myself, I completely agree. Look, actually getting a girl from the apps out on a date is just the first step…I met a fair few ladies where the first date went well, and led to more dates and sex, but I also met a fair few chicks where we did not “click” for whatever reason, and it didn’t go any further than that. Some of these “bad dates” were just from a fundamental personality mismatch etc, but in other situations I was definitely tired or otherwise not at the to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 11:39 PM |
| 3 | In the Old days the Redpill claimed that "Game" was the most important thing, in my observation the Manosphere transitioned hard to Looks/Money/Status maxxing theory, why did the Manosphere abonden game?Agreed. You have to meet a certain looks threshold, but outside of a tiny handful of top tier celebrities or something, that’s not gonna seal the deal all by itself. You still need to be able to talk to the girl, be an interesting and entertaining conversationalist, and move things along. Also, even if you meet the looks threshold, you can completely bomb your chances by having no social graces. A guy who looks like an 8 but who turns into an aspie weirdo in conversation and starts awkwardly tal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 11:29 PM |
| – | Women and girls are reading the manosphere forums and subs, that makes them less likely to date.Oh give me a break. There are female sex offenders and my ex wife turned out to have warrants for her arrest in another state that she conveniently never told me about. All men are not violent criminals. In fact, very very few are. Acting as if all men are out to get you is just biased, hysterical nonsense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 02:43 PM |
| – | Women and girls are reading the manosphere forums and subs, that makes them less likely to date.Ok but honestly that has nothing to do with being a man…my ex wife was actually evil, and turned out to be a criminal. I have a restraining order against her and she has warrants for her arrest that she has never bothered to address because she doesn’t live in that state. Is it fair for me to paint all women with that brush? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 02:41 PM |
| – | Women and girls are reading the manosphere forums and subs, that makes them less likely to date.Bingo. This was my very first thought. Reading the “highbrow” feminist screeds in allegedly high culture magazines like the Atlantic, the New Yorker, etc definitely made me want to avoid women at times when I was dating. The difference, as you’ve highlighted, is that the female perspective has taken over the culture and is trumpeted from virtually every media outlet in the country that isn’t right leaning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 01:48 PM |
| – | Being single as a man outweighs being in a relationshipHaving personally seen the shitshow that results when divorced/never married parents break up and then fight it out in family court, I frankly beg to differ. Yes, theoretically that sort of arrangement works, but in reality it just ends up being a disaster 95% of the time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 12:59 PM |
| – | Being single as a man outweighs being in a relationshipWell, this is exactly what a lot of people do, so I don’t see what all the confusion is about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 12:56 PM |
| 2 | The widespread research declaring that women are happier single has long been retracted and refuted by experts as well as the original researcher.The question is - what makes you think you’re so special to be entitled to such a man? Why are you looking for something vanishingly rare…? Well, never mind, I think I know judging from reading the rest of your comments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 04:26 AM |
| 1 | The widespread research declaring that women are happier single has long been retracted and refuted by experts as well as the original researcher.I think it’s such a strange idea that only healthy, wealthy, and already “happy” people are able to get married. I have lived in some relatively well-off towns as well as some rural areas where the average annual income wasn’t too far from the poverty line. In all of these places, there were plenty of people who weren’t wealthy, sure as hell weren’t healthy, and weren’t remotely what I would consider to be “happy” - and yet most of them were married. I think a lot of guys need to broaden their h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 03:04 AM |
| 4 | Sex Tourism/Mail-Order Bride Weekly Discussion ThreadExactly. Female sex tourism is considered 100% ok, but if men do it…hoo boy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/23 04:33 PM |
| 5 | Sex Tourism/Mail-Order Bride Weekly Discussion ThreadI don’t think it’s “unethical” to have an interest in women of another culture, period. I’m Caucasian and, for instance, I find that I’m attracted to Asian and Indian women. I’m not sure how this is “unethical” any more than the fact that some white women are attracted to black men, or tall men, or whatever. (I will note that I’ve never paid for sex, have no interest in paying for sex in America or anywhere else, and am not a pedophile and have absolutely zero interest in sex with children.) And… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/23 04:17 PM |
| 2 | New study finds men are leaving the workforce en masse, why work hard if you are not entitled to a wife nor children? This already happened in Japan by men turning into Hikkikomori and japanese economy is in the brink of collapse, men have left the plantation since there's nothing left for themJapan has a rapidly aging population, and not nearly enough young taxpayers to support the huge number of elderly (who are already on the dole, more or less) and older middle aged folks who are about to be. Giving some people lots of free shit means that other people have to be paying for it. Japan doesn’t have nearly enough “other people” (read: young adults) to make the Ponzi scheme work anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/23 04:33 AM |
| 9 | Dating is just a waste of time and money these days.Back when I was dating before I got married, I had a one month fling with a Brazilian chick who was here in the US for a month on some sort of student exchange thing. It was a revelation. She was so erotic, and so pleasant. Educated, well spoken, and was very interesting to have conversations with. We went back to her place on the first date and had like 3 hours of surprisingly wild sex. I was divorced from a prude at that point, and she introduced me to so many sexual things I’d never experienc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/23 08:31 PM |
| 46 | Seen repeated claims “there are more attractive women then men.”Bingo. And the fact that guys, on average, find a lot more women to be attractive than women do men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/23 05:36 AM |
| 2 | Modern women who want to be treated traditionally…Sustain our lives? Yes Meaning? No. I have a good professional job and I don’t derive my “personal sense of meaning” from this. I’m not sure why women ever started feeling that their “meaning” came from doing corporate drudgework and making spreadsheets for huge corporations that don’t give a damn about them. Why, and how, has society devalued the work associated with raising children so much that people would rather spend their time doing pointless corporate busywork instead? How broken is soci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 07:31 PM |
| 17 | Modern women who want to be treated traditionally…Or rather, she values your ability to pay for things lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Modern women who want to be treated traditionally…When I was dating in between my marriages, I encountered some women who wanted to pay for everything - ie, the whole dinner for both of us - themselves. I’m a professional who makes decent money, and these women were usually also professionals making good money, and so it was interesting to see that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 07:22 PM |
| 5 | Apparently genuine, well meaning guys don't even exist in some peoples worldviewsThere are times in my life where I’ve been starving for sexual attention, and times where I’ve done well in that regard. One thing I can tell you is this: “any woman” is not better than “no woman”. This may be hard to believe when you’re desperate for sex, but trust me - there are some women out there who are a net negative and who will make your life way, way worse than being single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 01:50 PM |
| 2 | Apparently genuine, well meaning guys don't even exist in some peoples worldviewsThis makes no sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 01:42 PM |
| 4 | the "sexualization" of women is a two way street. Women profiting off their sexual attractiveness is part of the reason why some men see them as sex objects.Women’s dating advice? Most of it that I’ve seen - especially in the “highbrow” UMC rags like Slate and the Atlantic - focuses on women whining about how no man appreciates them for their job and education, hand wringing about the “decaying state of men”, and generally is predicated on the idea that women and their personalities are “just fine” - you go, girl - it’s all those dirty stupid uncultured men out there who just don’t get you. I have seen very, very little female dating advice that foc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/23 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Q for men: Do men very concerned with unintended pregnancy come inside women?When I was in my “dating phase”, I dated a lot, had a lot of sex, and religiously used condoms and often pulled out before I came anyway. (The only exception was one LTR during that phase who was on Depo-Provera and went out of her way to do the injections in front of me to prove it - and even then I only came inside her once, as a “gift” of sorts, when she met me at her door in my favorite dress on her birthday and told me she wanted to feel my cum dripping out of her when we went out that nigh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/23 07:23 PM |
| 2 | How do you solve the "The Fatherless Crisis"?Not only that, but in the current cultural cesspool the men who would likely make the best fathers (stable, hardworking, honorable) are denigrated by many women as being “boring”, while men who are going to be terrible fathers (unstable, fuck around nonstop, etc etc) are cherished by irresponsible women who are only chasing whatever makes them wet. When they get pregnant by these irresponsible types of men, the results are predictably awful. Society’s incentives here are all messed up. “More sup… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 11:34 PM |
| 1 | q4men: what contradictions do you see in women?It’s not a “power thing”. This feminist idea that “sex is all about power” is one of the stupidest ideas that has ever been foisted on society at large. It’s actually a “we like diverse partners” thing. We tend to get bored with the same partner, over and over and over. (Women do too, according to studies - perhaps even more so than men.) We also like enthusiastic, wild sex. While you may feel appalled that the “not good ladies” are more down with this kind of sex than you, that doesn’t automati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/23 12:40 AM |
| 3 | q4men: what contradictions do you see in women?That’s not the point here. The question is why men are chastised for doing this when it seems to be a near universal expectation among women that they will be able to dump their emotional disregulation on the nearest man, and expect them to deal with it. It goes both ways. For the record, I have only rarely encountered women who are capable of self soothing etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 11:28 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Telling unsuccesful men that the young women in impoverished countries only want them for their money is pointless, these men believe that women their age in their country are the same. And we can't blame them.I think what a lot of guys find frustrating is that the pattern is so consistent, and also so deliberate. Some people grow and mature, some don’t, but this pattern among women is so repeatable and noticeable that I think it’s only natural for a lot of guys to feel frustrated. Also, it only seems to go one way. I don’t usually hear of women starting off with nerds and switching to bad boys after the age of 30. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 10:46 PM |
| 1 | Anecdotal evidences of the state of men's mental health right now. Please add your own. Discuss.My advice: you need to find a friends group not composed of fuckups, outcasts, miscreants, and the like. While there are plenty of men out there who have mental health issues, there are also plenty who have their shit together and who don’t act like toddlers. Find them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 11:57 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Red Pill dating strategy for men is effective but unfulfillingI think it does - because it makes you aware of basic proclivities in both male and female behavior, and gives you basic approaches to addressing this. I think a “loving” relationship with women is possible, but said relationship will not exist for any length of time if the man is unable to embody the basic elements of masculinity that women find attractive (or, if said relationship does last, the man is usually treated like complete garbage). While not every woman necessarily wants a suave, wel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 04:53 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Red Pill dating strategy for men is effective but unfulfillingThere’s a quote from James Baldwin that goes like this: “Money, it turned out, was exactly like sex - you thought of nothing else if you didn’t have it and thought of other things if you did.” TRP is what a lot of men have turned to when they can’t figure out the “sex game”, and when their own internal sex drive is eating them alive because of it. What I will say is this: I think the “red pill” and the “manosphere” are a lot broader, and their ideologies more diverse, than the media (and most he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 04:21 PM |
| 1 | When women and men refer to the "friendzone", they are each imagining two very different scenarios, which causes the animosity and confusion over the topic.Yes, of course - the manipulation is immoral and should be condemned. Unfortunately, that won’t stop it from happening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 02:26 PM |
| 4 | Does the rise of Joey Swoll support RP’ers claims of female solipsism?Especially when the same society also parades half undressed women through the media daily, as if it were the most normal thing in the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 05:21 AM |
| – | Do men find this lady to be attractive ??I agree…she’s ok, not ugly, but also not exactly a rip roaring beauty either. That she had guys doing things like this for her means that she is probably an absolute psychopath. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 12:50 AM |
| 3 | When women and men refer to the "friendzone", they are each imagining two very different scenarios, which causes the animosity and confusion over the topic.It takes two to tango. At all times, anyone engaging in any type of relationship has the right to maintain their boundaries and also exit when they’re not getting exactly what they wanted from the arrangement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 11:48 PM |
| 1 | Man's burden is woman's choiceThe lower class is going to have kids regardless, because (to be honest) they don’t much care about whether their kids are taken care of or not. Having six kids on minimum wage tells me one of two things: either you don’t care, or you’re expecting the government to pay for it. Regardless, they also don’t have a choice in working - some of those families have two parents each working 2-3 jobs to put food on the table. The UMC types, however, do have a choice. I’m sure a family can get by quite ni… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 06:46 PM |
| 0 | Man's burden is woman's choiceSpending 6 figures on child care is the height of pointless and stupid spending. I’m a UMC professional and I see so many UMC types around me doing this - burning absurd sums of money so that someone else can raise their kids so they can go on acting like the childless professionals they wish they actually were. I do not understand why people bother to have kids if they have no interest in participating in their upbringing. It is beyond stupid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 04:11 PM |
| 2 | Man's burden is woman's choiceTbh, I think some of what happened is that the “powers that be” realized that women are even better suited then men to doing the kind of “sit still, shut up, work work work” drudgework that big corporations, schools, and the government love. Many women are surprisingly willing to sit down and chug through pointless corporate busywork; some of them even seem to crave it. When everyone realized that the other half of the population was even better suited to doing pointless crap than the half they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 04:06 PM |
| 2 | Are there men in your life who are good overall but fail at dating? What does this say about modern dating?I think it also depends on your audience and where you live. A rough looking, masculine guy with a big pickup truck will likely clean up in the rural South. He will probably have trouble in New York City. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 05:13 PM |
| 13 | Are there men in your life who are good overall but fail at dating? What does this say about modern dating?I agree with you. Whenever I’ve met these types of “great guys who just can’t seem to get with women”, the reason is usually quite obvious within 30 seconds or so. Many guys lack the self awareness to sort out what elements of their personalities may be hampering their success with women, and many other guys who are friends with these people may not spot it either (or be willing to call it out). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 05:09 PM |
| 6 | WGTOW Evidence?I agree. There are a lot of women who claim to “swear off men” but when you look closer, what they’re really doing is swearing off relationships or, more specifically, serious relationships visible to her friends and family. Under the surface, most of these types of women are quite sexually active, often with several short term relationships going on at any given time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 12:11 AM |
| 2 | The Lack of Critical Thinking Amongst Red Pill MenYup. Also, look at the mess that “dating in the workplace” has become - now I agree that the whole “don’t shit where you eat” idea makes sense, but there’s also no denying that a lot of couples used to meet at work (my parents met that way). Nowadays, that is very discouraged. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/23 08:54 PM |
| 9 | Why do American women seem to be dissatisfied with the quality of American men?And you haven’t even mentioned rural America, which is a whole other ball game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/23 01:23 AM |
| 4 | Why do American women seem to be dissatisfied with the quality of American men?I think the truth is that Americans, of both genders, tend to be fucked up. We have had an increasingly dysfunctional culture for 30-50 years that has gotten us to this point. As a male who had been dating women, I assure you that the female dating pool isn’t any better - except there I not only encountered many of the same issues you mentioned, but also women who clearly wanted some sort of bailout or “free ride” by glomming onto a more successful man. I’ve definitely heard of “male gold digger… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/23 01:11 AM |
| 1 | I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters.How exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 11:23 PM |
| 3 | Whats your sexual fantasy that will remain a fantasy? WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADLots of stuff. MFM. For whatever reason I’ve always found the idea of DPing a girl to be really hot, and to feel the other guy fucking the other hole while being balls deep myself. Going along with that, MFM with myself and another guy trading off dumping loads in a girl’s ass until we’ve both completely emptied our balls…basically using each other’s cum as the lube for the next round. And after each guy cums, the girl sucks him off and dirty talks him into getting ready again. And after we have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 12:05 AM |
| 1 | How men not being valued for their efforts contributes to societal illsThe answer is simple. Women are taking roles that men had, leaving them with nothing. Women view this as some sort of massive victory, when in fact this process is actually kicking each leg out of the table we call “society” one by one. Women, I’m guessing, will not relish the society that is likely coming down the road | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/23 05:19 AM |
| 9 | Women would do better in dating if they involved the men in their family with mate selectionI mean, this is a good point. The longer I live, the more people I have met whose families are just fucking nuts. I don’t see it as some sort of rare exception to the rule anymore. And it’s not just “male abuse”, it’s all sorts of manipulation and head games played by male and female relatives alike. If you have a good relationship with your family and they’re good people, that’s great. If not, they may not be a good data point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/22 11:05 PM |
| 1 | True wealth is mostly invisible, so how does "getting money" improve your chances if it can't be seen?I simply disagree with your entire premise (and with that of the “researchers” behind the story). Money has been very helpful at every step of the game. The “researchers” claim that you don’t get any more “happiness” (however they’re defining that) after $70k. I make about 3.5x that at this point, and I can assure you that I was happier making more than $70k, and that I’ve been happier and more satisfied making each multiple of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/22 01:21 PM |
| 2 | For men, the social value of sex is always higher than the value than being just friends, but it's not that men don't want to be friendsWhy are you hanging out with your ex wife at Christmas parties? Move on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/22 04:44 AM |
| 2 | True wealth is mostly invisible, so how does "getting money" improve your chances if it can't be seen?This is something of a myth perpetuated by a handful of misleading psychology studies that were further misinterpreted by the media. Between my childhood and my adult life, I’ve had periods where I was flat broke, periods were I was just getting by, and periods where I was relatively well off (solidly UMC, but not exactly what most would call “rich”.) I can say, without hesitation, that life has been much better and much more enjoyable when I had more money, and it’s been much shittier and less … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 11:41 PM |
| 5 | True wealth is mostly invisible, so how does "getting money" improve your chances if it can't be seen?I think it depends on where you live and what kind of girls you’re chasing. In rural areas: the hot guy in his rusted out pickup will clean up. Even if you’re hot, pulling up in Armani and a Lamborghini in rural Alabama will get you a lot of weird looks, as if you’ve just landed in your alien spacecraft from another planet. In urban areas: it’s a toss up. Some urban women will still dig the hot guy, but some on the more “gold digger” end of things won’t be able to see past his lack of money and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 11:33 PM |
| 1 | Sex tourism is only considered wrong when it is done by men because most of society is so sexist it only ascribes agency to men.One thing nobody talks about is female sex tourism. When I was on the apps a few years ago, I hooked up with several women traveling from abroad for vacations or whatever. Part of the adventure was finding a local guy to fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 06:08 PM |
| 7 | How modern capitalism profits from loneliness and isolation.It’s also worth noting that automobiles were generally considered a key ingredient of the sexual revolution, mostly because they allowed young couples to get away from their families and potentially even have sex in the cars themselves. I agree that “car culture” and driving everywhere does trend towards isolation somewhat, but packing everyone into mass transit and apartments doesn’t automatically solve the problems either. Japan has plenty of lonely, isolated young men in dense urban areas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/22 06:37 PM |
| 1 | How do PPD subscribers deal with boredom? Is the future unofficial polyamory?I agree. It’s changing from a “fringe weird people” thing to a “a few of my friends do this” thing. It’s not far off from the mainstream IMO, at least in really big cities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 04:49 PM |
| 2 | How do PPD subscribers deal with boredom? Is the future unofficial polyamory?“When marrying you should ask yourself this question: do you believe you are going to enjoy talking with this woman into your old age? Everything else in a marriage is transitory, but most of the time that you're together will be devoted to conversation.” Nietzche. And I do think he is correct. The current generation has been taught that marriage is supposed to be some sort of adrenaline crazed sex party that goes on for 30-40 years. While sex and fun is absolutely part of a good marriage, it’s … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 04:38 PM |
| 1 | How do PPD subscribers deal with boredom? Is the future unofficial polyamory?Other problem with these “contracts” is that they don’t solve the actual problems that are the central business of family courts - asset distribution, parenting time, and such. Prenups don’t change the asset distribution question as much as people think, because in general prenups only concern assets acquired before the marriage. Prenups also don’t have any weight with regards to parenting time, and other questions pertaining to raising the children. So while you could try to define all these th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 04:34 PM |
| 1 | Do the men in here that struggle to get laid not have any women in there social circles?Not everyone likes drinking, or gets a “pro-social” effect out of the stuff. I have no problem going to bars to hang out with people, and I enjoy it, but if I order a beer or something I take about two sips of it. (This never got in the way of me dating effectively.) Alcohol just makes me sleepy, foggy, and overall less effective at socializing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/22 09:36 PM |
| 26 | Do the men in here that struggle to get laid not have any women in there social circles?Also, nowadays dating among co-workers is so discouraged that a lot of people don’t even try to do it anymore (or, rather, a lot of guys don’t even attempt to ask out a co-worker as they’ve been so heavily conditioned to think it will end in disaster, ruining their career in the process). There’s certainly a lot of truth to the whole “don’t shit where you eat” bit, but there’s also no denying that a lot of couples used to (and still do) meet in the workplace. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/22 09:29 PM |
| 4 | Do you think being a male breadwinner is becoming less of a status symbol?Because it seems nobody associates having kids with financial responsibility anymore. People just have kids whenever they want, and as many as they want, regardless of their ability to provide for them…and if the walls come crashing down then they expect the government to support them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/22 06:55 PM |
| 1 | aspiration seems very high among women in my area. Is this a new norm in big cities?I’ve been around DC enough to dispute the idea that most DC women are “attractive”. Most DC UMC women that I’ve encountered are much like most UMC women elsewhere: like a 5-7 at best, but very hardworking, and the long work hours take a toll on their appearance over time. (One thing I have noticed, though, is that UMC types consistently overrate their looks and those of their comrades.) Working 80+ hour weeks for years on end does a number on the body, and having huge dark circles under your eye… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/22 08:13 PM |
| 6 | The dad bod preference is nothing more than virtue signallingI’ve heard “dad bod” get associated with at least three types of physiques: “Skinny fat” - aka not actually fat, but not extremely lean or cut either (Vince Vaughn. Also, recent Elon Musk pics lol.) Straight up fat dudes (Jack Black) As described above, guys that have a big frame and perhaps once were ripped but now have gained some weight; they still look strong (think Hulk Hogan as he looks now, and I guess some off steroid cycle celebs could fall into this category too. I’d also put Sylvester… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/22 09:47 PM |
| 2 | aspiration seems very high among women in my area. Is this a new norm in big cities?My wife was a grad student in NYC. The immense cost of living in these cities just encourages that type of nonsense, because it’s virtually impossible to live on the shitty stipends they pay you in these programs there. Per her experience, if you’re a young grad student chick in these situations you either live with 4 or 5 roommates in halfway ghetto apartments (what her and about half her class did) or put on the makeup and sleazy dresses and try to fuck Wall Street types until one either marri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/22 06:29 PM |
| 2 | aspiration seems very high among women in my area. Is this a new norm in big cities?Also, don’t discount the fact that a lot of faraway travel among young people of both genders (but especially women, in my experience) is basically sex tourism. On the apps, I hooked up with a number of young women from other countries who were traveling to America for leisure etc - and part of the adventure was finding a local guy for NSA sex. I get the distinct impression that a lot of American women are doing the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/22 06:16 PM |
| 4 | aspiration seems very high among women in my area. Is this a new norm in big cities?You can always tell when you’ve struck too close to home on PPD - all the women are mysteriously silent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/22 06:10 PM |
| 10 | Where did this idea that younger women make better partners come from?The problem (and I say this from experience in the modern dating market) is that the 25-30y/o female virgin in today’s America is quite likely to be a total weirdo, insanely religious, asexual, autistic enough that meeting people and forming relationships is difficult, or some combination of the above. I ran into a couple of these chicks while dating a few years ago. While both were attractive, neither of them really panned out, and both had no interest in sex whatsoever after 6+ months in a rel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/22 05:05 PM |
| 4 | aspiration seems very high among women in my area. Is this a new norm in big cities?Two points on that…my experience having worked with/dated/been friends with these types of women is that they rarely actually “love” their jobs, even if they say they do…what they love is the attention and prestige they get from working a certain type of job, the resources they get from it that allow them to live the glitzy lifestyle, and the image it allows them to present of being a hip trendy highly educated super important workaholic young urban woman etc etc. Most of these types of women ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/22 02:36 PM |
| 4 | aspiration seems very high among women in my area. Is this a new norm in big cities?Agree on all of this. Also, if the money for these ladies isn’t coming from rich parents and they actually are doing all these activities, then they’re probably a sugar baby…which is also way more common in big cities than anyone likes to admit. (I’ve also encountered grad students who were “upscale escorts” or strippers on the side, too.) Needless to say, those types of women aren’t the ones you want to deal with either. Funding your Instagram lifestyle by fucking a bunch of sleazy rich guys on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 10:30 PM |
| 1 | aspiration seems very high among women in my area. Is this a new norm in big cities?Yup. That’s a lot of it right there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 07:47 PM |
| 4 | aspiration seems very high among women in my area. Is this a new norm in big cities?Spoken like someone who hasn’t actually been around many affluent people before. Many (most?) UMC/upper class people I’ve met are basically allllll about their jobs. They work all the frigging time, and in their downtime they’re exhausted. Work-life balance is not exactly a priority for a lot of these people, and they don’t always have the time or energy for a lot of these other sexy “activities” that affluent people are supposed to be out engaging in. Many of them are also not necessarily the m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 07:27 PM |
| 23 | aspiration seems very high among women in my area. Is this a new norm in big cities?I used to live near a fairly big metropolitan area, and I’ve dated these types of women before. They basically fall into two groups, neither of which you really want to have to deal with: The first group is women who don’t actually have that lifestyle yet, but desperately want it. They usually are broke, have a ton of debt, and otherwise can’t really afford to live this way - but they’re trying their damndest to look like they do. They scrape together enough money to travel once a year to somepl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 07:07 PM |
| 2 | aspiration seems very high among women in my area. Is this a new norm in big cities?Lol yeah exactly. I’ve known grad students, and even dated a few over the years. Believe me, being a science grad student is not compatible with this glitzy lifestyle that you see being promoted by women on social media and such. You’re paid a pittance and often worked so hard that you barely have time to sleep, never mind fly to some foreign city to have tacos with your friends. The only way these gals could possibly afford all this is if their rich parents are fronting the cash for it (which, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 06:33 PM |
| 5 | aspiration seems very high among women in my area. Is this a new norm in big cities?Yup. A lot of times, you’ll hear about crazy trips they took once - but later on, when you hear the details, it turns out that trip happened 5 years ago and they’ve been recycling pictures from it ever since, or whatever. Most of these “thot” types are actually broke. The lifestyle they describe is the one they aspire to, not the one they have. (And they hope you’re going to be bringing the resources to make it happen.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 06:28 PM |
| 9 | aspiration seems very high among women in my area. Is this a new norm in big cities?All very true. People living in big cities in the US tend to have very odd priorities. Many people out there spending $$$ on “experiences” and clothing are actually broke behind the scenes, and if they live in places like NYC and LA they’re sharing an apartment with 3 roommates or whatever. It takes a LOT of money to have a truly “high class” lifestyle in most of those places, and trust me - most people on these apps don’t. Also, don’t discount the fact that lots of these people are probably jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 06:22 PM |
| 6 | aspiration seems very high among women in my area. Is this a new norm in big cities?Yup. I’ve encountered a lot of UMC women who are happy to date a hot but otherwise stupid or “loser”-ish man as long as he cleans up well for the Instagram shots. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 06:17 PM |
| 1 | "I'm single because there are not enough good guys for me" is just narcissismAnd even in that situation, the recommendation I’d have is “move”. If you stay in a place like that yet bitch constantly that there aren’t any good potential partners available, that’s on you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 10:17 PM |
| 2 | There's a difference between fear of relationships and risk mitigationThis is absurd. Enjoying certain activities while reducing your own risk is normal, prudent, and frankly not doing so is stupid. The people that don’t do any risk mitigation in their lives tend to have massive problems, and also tend to have lives that are full of bizarre problems that they wouldn’t otherwise have if they had any common sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 10:12 PM |
| 1 | There's a difference between fear of relationships and risk mitigationI’m having trouble following your reasoning. Risk mitigation is done so as to allow people to engage in certain activities while also minimizing certain types of risk. Risk mitigation doesn’t have to derail or otherwise reduce the joy of participating in certain activities. I enjoy driving, and putting on a seatbelt is a worthwhile means of risk mitigation for that activity. Even professional race drivers strap themselves into their cars and wear all sorts of safety equipment. I am not exactly s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 10:02 PM |
| 5 | There's a difference between fear of relationships and risk mitigationAh yes - everyone is always confident that they are the exception somehow. “Yes, a lot of marriages fail out there, but somehow my relationship is above this…my girl isn’t like that…we’re really tight…” Until it all falls apart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 09:37 PM |
| 4 | How do we "choose better partners"?It’s not hard to exclude probably 75% of guys that aren’t going to be good partners with just a few basic criteria: Success: does he have a job? Criminal record? Drug use history? Does he work hard? Does he have his own place/car, or does he just mooch off parents or past partners? Attitude: does he approach a relationship from the standpoint of contributing something to it, or does he just see the situation as something to get as much out of for himself as possible? Does he treat service employ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Why is an average woman more accepted for being single than an attractive woman for choosing to stay single?Agreed. Women judge other women all damn day long. This is why as a man it gets tiring to be demonized nonstop by feminists - apparently I’m to blame for “all the pressure on women” to “conform to beauty standards” or something, among many other things. Nada. Women harshly judge each other, pick on each other, and drive each other to conform to standards, to get married, and such. I could care less if a woman wears a certain type of makeup a certain way, wears certain clothes, etc etc - but othe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 04:03 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers believe trust is earned, Bluepillers believe trust is givenI did. It wasn’t hard. In fact, my wife expected me to stop talking to my exes, and also made a point of telling me that she doesn’t talk to hers. This isn’t unusual, in my experience. What is unusual is people hanging out with exes long after they’re not an item anymore, and people of both genders are rightly suspicious of this. (When you’re done with a relationship, you move on. I don’t go around hitting up past partners that I ended on good terms with - what does that have to do with anything… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 12:38 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers believe trust is earned, Bluepillers believe trust is givenThere’s a difference between incidentally running into your ex in a circle of friends, and deliberately communicating with them over and over (texting, etc). The latter is what is being referred to here. Furthermore, most of my serious female partners have also expected me not to talk to my exes, and likely would have been suspicious if they discovered I was doing so. This isn’t exactly an unusual expectation, and it’s common among people of both sexes to voluntarily do so as a sign of dedicatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 12:36 AM |
| 9 | Redpillers believe trust is earned, Bluepillers believe trust is givenI can’t say I’d expect a new partner to delete all social media - that’s pretty extreme. (Dating apps, on the other hand - yes, I would expect them to delete those if it was a serious exclusive relationship.) I would also expect them to stop talking to exes (the only possible exception, I suppose, would be a partner who is a single mother who still has to communicate with an ex because she is co-parenting - but I usually avoid single mothers altogether). I don’t talk to my exes anymore. Why shou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 05:32 AM |
| 3 | Anyone notice that in a lot of male-oriented space, the general consensus is that they hold themselves accountable for their self improvement, while in female-oriented spaces, they focus on placating their members?Instead, what I see is women ignoring all advice and evidence to the contrary around them to perseverate down counterproductive and self-sabotaging tracks in their lives. Perhaps many women would actually benefit from direct, appropriate, constructive criticism instead of pussyfooting around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/22 01:27 AM |
| – | What was great advice 20 years ago, but definitely isn’t now? WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADWhen I was on Tinder a few years ago before I got married, you could pretty reliably tell if a girl was into you if she texted right after the date, or at most by the next day. Three days to text? Lol. If you heard nothing for 3 days, that was a virtual guarantee that you had been ghosted (and you weren’t going to be hearing from them again). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/22 01:04 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about women who have "no ONS" written in their tinder bio?Back when I was on Tinder, the “no ONS” women were by far the most likely to actually have a ONS with you lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 03:44 PM |
| 2 | Most women don't care about toxic masculinity and actively perpetuate it when it suits them.Also, your sister put out a bizarre strawman argument in your conversation with her, and I’m surprised that it’s causing so much “debate” here. Put simply, most men are not gay or bi. They’re not magically going to start fucking other men if they “be themselves”. Period, end of discussion. This has nothing to do with homophobia or “toxic masculinity” etc. Your sister either doesn’t get out much or has otherwise picked up a very strangely skewed view of masculinity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 04:10 AM |
| 3 | Most women don't care about toxic masculinity and actively perpetuate it when it suits them.There’s a difference between not wanting those type of sexual partners, and thinking they’re “disgusting”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 04:07 AM |
| 3 | Most women don't care about toxic masculinity and actively perpetuate it when it suits them.Can we just set aside the phrase “toxic masculinity” altogether? It really reminds me of the word “unprofessional”, which has basically become corporate-speak for “anything you do that we don’t like - whether or not it was actually justified or ethical or legal, or even normal”. “Toxic masculinity” has basically just become a broad catch-all term for any behavior that isn’t the flavor of the month for modern feminist women. Also, if “toxic masculinity” actually exists, then “toxic femininity” ce… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 04:05 AM |
| 1 | Have you ever turned a woman down for her body count?I also take it for ADHD - but I see his remark as a statement on how frequently it’s abused these days. The people who seriously need it and benefit from taking it don’t usually talk about it. The people who talk about it constantly and boast of having a script are usually abusing it, and doing stupid things while taking it. It does seem to supercharge some folks’ sexuality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/22 02:29 PM |
| 7 | Have you ever turned a woman down for her body count?Yeah exactly…the longer you’re in the “dating game” the more you realize that sleeping with any particular woman isn’t exactly an “achievement”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/22 02:26 PM |
| -1 | CMV: the only thing two people need to have in common to date each other is the desire to date each otherExactly. Some older people are very immature and some younger people are very mature. Sometimes, it works just fine. Sometimes it doesn’t. It really isn’t anyone else’s business whether it does or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/22 02:20 PM |
| 3 | The reason for a decline in social cohesion and relationships in general is due to a collapse in third places.Your experience is not exactly unusual among those I know who have lived in big cities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/22 10:12 PM |
| 3 | Honest conversation about the main topics of this subreddit in real-time.Bingo. And while it was Freud who came up with the whole “Madonna/Whore” thing, I’ve always thought that women do that much more intensely than men. Men will hang around a long time with a slut, and many of them will actually marry said slutty women if given the chance - and treat them quite well. Women treat the “Madonna” men like garbage, and if they actually do marry the men they claim they want for marriage, they are generally miserable and make the relationship miserable too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Honest conversation about the main topics of this subreddit in real-time.Give me a break. You don’t have to have Asperger’s to see the cracks in the modern dating situation, or to question why it works the way it does (and why it doesn’t actually serve anyone, including women, very well). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 02:57 PM |
| 4 | Honest conversation about the main topics of this subreddit in real-time.Bingo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 02:41 PM |
| 2 | Honest conversation about the main topics of this subreddit in real-time.I’ve heard this line of thinking often enough from women to think that there is at least some truth to it. I think different women do this to different degrees. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 02:41 PM |
| 19 | What's the male equivalent of a promiscuous woman?If you follow the reasoning that men are the gatekeepers for relationships/commitment whilst women are the gatekeepers for sex, this is probably the closest comparison. A promiscuous woman is usually one who had a lot of easy sex looking for that to translate into companionship, and/or a relationship. Conversely, a simp is handing out lots of easy companionship, attention, etc hoping that it translates into sex. An incel neck beard is in another category altogether - what I would call the “untou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/22 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Political polarization is a big factor in women and men being less compatible these daysI agree. Many liberal leaning women are finding that their male “unicorn” - ie, one that is masculine and sexy but also espouses deep liberal ideology and is ok with acting like it - basically does not exist. So in some cases, rather than compromise on either set of preferences, they’re taking advantage of the liberal idiot who is “cool with ethical non monogamy” to fuck someone they actually find attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/22 05:02 PM |
| 14 | Women are not wrong in saying that the average guy is an undateable mess. The mistake they make is believing that the average woman is not.Why do you have an issue with it? Back when I was on the dating apps a few years ago, seemingly half the female profiles were like “dog mom, wine 🍷 lover, loves to travel” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/22 04:46 PM |
| 7 | Women are not wrong in saying that the average guy is an undateable mess. The mistake they make is believing that the average woman is not.Another thing nobody is talking about is how much social media has atrophied female social skills. After my divorce several years ago, I dated some “gen z” women and was shocked to find just how little effort they put into social interactions…often times they’re not doing much better than the men at that age. I definitely noticed a difference between women, say, 25 and younger vs 30 and older in terms of socialization and how they interact with the world around them - and it’s not just a maturit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/22 04:37 PM |
| 0 | Political polarization is a big factor in women and men being less compatible these daysIt’s more complicated then that, by far. People of certain income brackets in America often split in different directions politically based on geography. Your thinking is too narrow and is overly focused on how coastal liberals define “UMC”. For instance, I live in Alabama. Big cities in Alabama do indeed have a UMC/upper class population segment. These people hold wealth like the UMC, consume like the UMC and in many ways behave like other UMCs do in America. Are they liberal? No, at least not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/22 11:50 PM |
| 15 | Political polarization is a big factor in women and men being less compatible these daysMy experience in dating in America is that women, whether “conservative” or “liberal”, overwhelmingly want masculinity and will choose a masculine man over anything else when push comes to shove. There are relatively few women who will choose men purely on political preferences, and even most of those women seem to be willing to compromise on the political side if it means choosing a man they actually find attractive. Also, while the Left indeed does seem to have a problem with masculinity these… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/22 11:37 PM |
| 5 | Vetting Mega-Thread7 months? Hell, if 7 days or at most 1 month passes, that’s a very bad sign. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 07:23 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If legal, age doesn’t matterAs long as the younger party is 18, who cares. Some people are 40 and act like immature imbeciles while some people at 20 are much more mature than most people older than them. If the relationship works, it works and it isn’t anyone else’s business. If it doesn’t work, I’m sure the two folks involved will figure that out soon enough. As if all relationships between people the same age work out, or don’t fail because “people are at different places in their lives”… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 07:18 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Wanting a virgin/low body count woman isn't about pussyMy experience lines up with this quite well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/22 12:01 AM |
| 12 | While women are sexually objectified, men are emotionally objectified, they're both wrong.You have completely ignored his original point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/22 03:39 PM |
| 0 | Male VS Female Fitness Mega-ThreadWeightlifting consistently would probably make your job easier | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 04:35 AM |
| 3 | Male VS Female Fitness Mega-ThreadBased on what I’ve heard, this is accurate. One study a while back said most women basically prefer what Brad Pitt looked like in Fight Club - lean, some muscle, fit. Most women apparently don’t necessarily want guys to look like the Rock. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 04:30 AM |
| 6 | Most men that aren't having sex are otherwise fairly normal dudes, not women hating misogynists like reddit and society would lead you to believeClearly you have abnormal preferences with regards to sex. You shouldn’t project these preferences into your fellow men and women, and then act surprised that they want something else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 05:44 PM |
| 7 | Most men that aren't having sex are otherwise fairly normal dudes, not women hating misogynists like reddit and society would lead you to believeIt’s not about “societal pressure”. Sexual release and relationships are a normal part of virtually any human life. On an individual human level, it’s less about sociology and more about physiology. When large groups of people don’t have any access to normal sexual release, all sorts of explosive societal things tend to start happening. Societies in general don’t do well when large numbers of men can’t attain any basic level of success with members of the opposite sex. Historically, whenever thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 05:37 PM |
| 2 | Pros Vs Cons of Marriage Mega-ThreadThings like engagement parties are always interesting “tells” too. I’ve been married twice - never had an engagement party. The only people I see holding those are UMC or upper class types with more money than common sense, and a strong desire to flaunt it and get attention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 04:07 AM |
| 1 | Not one man, of any caliber, would reject an attractive woman because she was “socially awkward” or any number of other frivolous reasons. This is often mistakenly attributed to differences in selection criteria, but ultimately signifies women’s privilege and abundance.Let’s not make strawman arguments by cherry-picking the weirdest, most bizarre situations out there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 04:05 AM |
| 1 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?This is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever heard, and it sounds like it comes straight out of a fundie Christian pamphlet about “the evils of casual sex” or something. You really think “casual sex” has nothing to do with emotion, or that emotions never find their way into casual sex? You really think that the only way people have “deep intimate sex” is with monogamy? You think people in a monogamous relationship never have horny sex? If you really believe these things you need to learn … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 11:38 PM |
| 5 | Pros Vs Cons of Marriage Mega-ThreadUnless your “bestie” is also wealthy, this sounds remarkably stupid. If the wife wants a big ritzy wedding and her rich parents are willing to foot the bill, have at it. Otherwise forget it. And having a 2nd wedding that still costs over $100k after you’ve already seen how fragile marriages really are shows that he has learned nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/22 05:22 PM |
| 8 | Pros Vs Cons of Marriage Mega-ThreadBahahahaha if you think modern marriage is anything like this for men, you’re basically living on another planet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/22 05:18 PM |
| 7 | Pros Vs Cons of Marriage Mega-ThreadI hope this is a joke. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/22 05:14 PM |
| 0 | What even is the "friendzone"?You guys never were “friends”, that’s the thing. When a man comes out with a romantic overture and you don’t like it, that’s all the relationship ever was - not actually a friendship. So at that point it’s time for both sides to run along. Anything else merely leads to the woman whining about how some guy “wouldn’t take no for an answer”, and some guy moaning about being led along (and let’s be honest, there are women who absolutely exploit men in these situations and do lead them along trying t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 01:00 PM |
| 6 | What even is the "friendzone"?My take is that “let’s just be friends” is basically always a bad faith move on both sides of the aisle here. An offer of “let’s just be friends” after a failed attempt to court someone is almost never a sincere move towards friendship on the woman’s part…and let’s face it, no man who actually takes the offer of that “friendship” does it out of a sincere interest to be friends with that woman. The correct move in these situations is for both parties to go on their merry ways…anything else is alm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 12:30 AM |
| 11 | Your Personality is NOT the problem women here are making it to beWhat is worth noting is that even the “most successful guys” in this regard are still likely to be found unattractive by a large fraction of women. Even with good looks and good social skills, it’s still a bit of a numbers game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 06:26 PM |
| -1 | What issues do you actually feel for women about?“My mother always made me come watch TV when there was a kidnapping” Sounds like a great way to instill neurotic fear in your kid for no good reason. I’m sure your mother was a peach. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/22 11:27 PM |
| 1 | "It was the same back in the old days" is a common misconception among the younger posters on hereThe mothers and even grandmothers of the current generation did not come from a time where “women had no rights at all”. Far from it, in fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/22 11:07 PM |
| 3 | "It was the same back in the old days" is a common misconception among the younger posters on hereSo now instead of hearing mothers and grandmothers “spill out secrets about how crappy their lives are”, we hear Millenial women bitch openly on Instagram and Twitter and elsewhere about how crappy their lives are. Old boss, meet new boss. The common denominator, IMHO, is that women are difficult to please and enjoy complaining. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/22 03:23 PM |
| 8 | In terms of Women's Interests, Can Men (and Monogamy) Be Saved?“Post scarcity world” lol lmfao. Not sure what world OP is living in, but I’d suggest he/she ask a few minorities, truly poor people, and people living outside America (or the first world) how they feel about this. Masculinity is still in very high demand in today’s world - even in America. Even the big money making careerist liberal women want a very masculine partner. Masculinity is also under fire in ways it never has been before - IMHO because the same women that crave masculinity also want … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 03:44 PM |
| 3 | Women often like guys who treat them as disposableAnd that’s why there used to be so much paternalism and why families used to vet marriage partners (and still do in some cultures, what with arranged marriages and the such). Women have a strong tendency to get attached to guys who are not good for them - and to be blind to the reasons why certain guys aren’t good for them, at least until it’s too late. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 02:48 PM |
| 9 | The process of 'wooing' a woman is important for men to form a successful relationshipAgreed, any woman who did this I would find highly suspicious | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 04:28 AM |
| 6 | The process of 'wooing' a woman is important for men to form a successful relationshipAll the healthcare in the world doesn’t help much when you’re in your mid 60s when your kids are heading off to college. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 04:26 AM |
| 5 | The process of 'wooing' a woman is important for men to form a successful relationshipThat’s rubbish. Entire generations of Americans were raised largely by parents in their early 20s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 04:25 AM |
| 2 | The process of 'wooing' a woman is important for men to form a successful relationshipThat is the biggest load of horseshit that has ever been perpetrated on women. Yes, there is a pretty profound effect of age on fertility, never mind the fact that the chance of birth defects only goes up and up with maternal age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 04:24 AM |
| 1 | Financially investing in women early on to show that you're not just after sex seems logical. But when women take advantage of this by using men as free meal tickets or giving free sex very quickly to attractive men, men rightfully stop investing in women.Except that it doesn’t actually show interest and effort at all. A “dinner date” is generally somewhat boring for both involved. The most exciting initial dates I’ve been on were activity dates where we actually did interesting things and got to know each other. And that should always be the priority on any date like this - getting to an environment where you can get to know the other person, and enjoy spending time with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 11:16 PM |
| 4 | Financially investing in women early on to show that you're not just after sex seems logical. But when women take advantage of this by using men as free meal tickets or giving free sex very quickly to attractive men, men rightfully stop investing in women.I have dated several career women who actually insisted on paying for the first meal themselves-they didn’t want me to pay anything. Riddle me that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 09:55 PM |
| 5 | Financially investing in women early on to show that you're not just after sex seems logical. But when women take advantage of this by using men as free meal tickets or giving free sex very quickly to attractive men, men rightfully stop investing in women.Here’s the thing: why is “financial investment” being used as a metric of anything early on in the process? If I’m just meeting a girl for the first few times, my priority is to figure out if I enjoy this person’s company, if she has a good personality, if she has obvious dealbreakers, etc. Hell no I’m not “making a financial investment” at that point! The point is to spend time with a person to figure out if I enjoy them, or not. My investment is my time, which is actually the most valuable thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 09:47 PM |
| 2 | Swinging? Would you or wouldn’t you and why? Is there a gendered component to this?I would never do threesomes, swinging etc in a committed relationship. I have seen way too many relationships burn down because of that to think it’s something worth doing. I can (and have) done this stuff with FWBs. For about 5 years, I had a FWB who regularly got together with me for sex weekly - we really had some chemistry but wanted to keep it low key and keep seeing other people as well. She was in the ENM community. Sometimes, I’d come over and surprise - one of her female friends would b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 05:58 PM |
| 2 | Both Men And Women In "Normal" Society Acknowledge Alpha Fux Beta BuxNote how you avoided the point of the post, and responded with an ad hominem attack. I have heard women literally use the phrase “postmortem discussion” regarding a relationship in the past. Also, both of those are respectable professions and I’m not sure why you have a problem with them, or with someone using that lingo. (Usually “postmortem” is associated with medicine, btw.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 04:23 PM |
| 1 | raising a family worth it?“In our 20s, most of us can’t have kids because we’re poor” Go tell that to the working class whites, minorities etc in America who have the bulk of their kids in their (early) 20s. This “we don’t have money for kids” bit is such a uniquely middle/UMC thing to worry about. Rest assured that the actual poor people don’t think about this when they drop their 6 kids into the population before age 25. Meanwhile UMC Sally wrings her hands about her career before having her one kid at 40, with fertili… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 03:32 PM |
| 5 | Q4W: Why some of you withhold sex when dating ltr worthy men?Give me a break. As if most women don’t realize what they’re doing when a guy starts orbiting around them and they start “managing” that “friendship” to get what they want out of it. In my experience, most women can smell an orbiter from a mile away and know exactly what he’s up to. They also know exactly how to string him along to get whatever they want out of the arrangement while carefully avoiding the question of whether he should get anything he wants out of the situation. I have very littl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 01:54 AM |
| 101 | Both Men And Women In "Normal" Society Acknowledge Alpha Fux Beta BuxOh absolutely. The old fashioned, hard working “pillar of the community” male traits basically count for nothing at this point. Women want outgoingness, visceral attractiveness and “sizzle” - “dance for me, boy! I’m bored.” The funny thing is that this new, broad disdain for the kinds of traits that helped build our society and make it pleasant and livable will only make it an incredibly toxic, horrible place to be in the long run. After 20-30 years of all decent dudes trying to “alpha it up”, I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 11:04 PM |
| 5 | Q4W: Why some of you withhold sex when dating ltr worthy men?I agree with this in a sense. Without sex, it’s not actually a romantic relationship. It’s a friendship. I hear a lot of concern from women about commitment, and being “used for sex”. I can tell you that as a man, one way I can fairly easily determine the degree of commitment on the part of the women is if she is interested in having sex. If she isn’t, that’s generally a strong indication that she isn’t very attracted to me or that she’s not really interested in moving the relationship forward. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 09:32 PM |
| 20 | Q4W: Why some of you withhold sex when dating ltr worthy men?Nobody, male or female, is required to remain in any relationship situation that doesn’t serve their needs - whether for sex, companionship, friendship, whatever. Women are the first to bounce out of any situation when it doesn’t deliver exactly what they’re looking for. I think men are allowed to do the same. Also, the idea that women would provide some sort of “infinite support system” of female friendships is absurd. Whenever bad shit has happened to me, women - whether romantic partners or f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 05:18 PM |
| 3 | Women who have careers and RP mindsetThis is regional. In the Northeast, I observed a lot of “power couples” and such. In the South, not so much. “Rich doctor guy marries cute cheerleader who isn’t nearly as smart as him” is a very very common dynamic south of the mason/dixon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 08:13 PM |
| 1 | The Wall Mega-ThreadYeah exactly. I don’t feel that a divorce/kids is nearly as much of a “black mark” for a guy as it seems to be for a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:33 PM |
| 3 | The Wall Mega-ThreadAnd then there’s Jennifer Lopez, who is still astoundingly attractive at age 50 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:30 PM |
| 4 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?You may fit in with the Unitarian Universalists…it’s a “church” that often includes a large number of atheists etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:10 AM |
| 3 | The elephant in the room that women have attempted to get us to ignore: women are not attracted to genuinely nice guysWith all due respect, I think it’s perfectly permissible and acceptable for anyone to criticize anyone else’s choices in any domain. It’s a free country. Women in the modern age certainly have no problem criticizing the traits and choices of modern men - and I don’t hear anyone taking them to task about that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 04:18 AM |
| 3 | What policies would you introduce to incentivise fathers to take parental leave and better support women to chase their career !Yeah, I think this is the best answer. The most “pro family” work policy is that which allows BOTH parents to spend a lot less time working. Currently in America, working hours have gotten way out of control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Getting Muscular Is A Terrible Return On Investment When It Comes To DatingI remember some study a while back saying that the male body habitus women like most resembled Brad Pitt in Fight Club - pretty lean, fit, with some muscle | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 06:19 PM |
| 2 | Getting Muscular Is A Terrible Return On Investment When It Comes To DatingThey aren’t. There are still many, many more fat and “skinny fat” guys out there than there are muscular “gym chads”. I don’t understand where this perception comes from that “all guys go to the gym now, so they all look the same”. First, the average young dude in America now has at least an overweight, if not obese BMI and second, not all dudes who go to the gym know what they’re doing. You can find a lot of guys at my gym who come all the time, work out, and don’t appear to be gaining any musc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Sex, Drugs, and Rock n' Roll Mega-ThreadDefinitely not. I have encountered incels who were drunks and straightedge folks who did really well with the ladies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 06:01 PM |
| 1 | For those who hook up/have casual sex often with different partnersThe upside: It was fun, it was exhilarating, and I did enjoy meeting and connecting with the ladies I was involved with - and the sex was a ton of fun also. The downside: it’s extremely time consuming, and if you have an intense job there’s not a whole lot of time for this. It can also become mentally and emotionally draining at times. Also, the time you’re spending with these sexual connections is not time you’re spending with your friends etc. Also, in some locales and in certain professions, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?The “rage” you cite is not from the “get numbers => apply filters” strategy. It’s from not having any numbers whatsoever to start with. Also, “there’s no good advice to give in that arena”? So we just have to resort to basic platitudes? Seriously? Is it really so distasteful to admit to any degree of “market dynamics” in this dating game that people would rather rationalize themselves into believing all sorts of bullshit instead of just accepting what their own eyes are telling them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 01:07 PM |
| – | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?It’s still a marketplace. Almost everything in at least modern America - from sex to work to finding friendships and more - has become dominated by market dynamics IMHO. Perhaps this is the endgame of capitalism and classical liberalism. Bottom line is that not viewing it as a market, at least for men, is a way for it to be romanticized into some sort of thing that it isn’t - and for all sorts of useless advice (“just be yourself, the right girl will come along eventually”) to creep in that cert… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 12:35 PM |
| 1 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?Lol. All that was happening was that these women were coming over to my place to fuck. Some of them had parents that apparently were more “invasive” than others and demanded they come back each night…so those women would simply come back home at 1am or whatever, after sex. These women certainly aren’t “pure” if that’s what these guys think is going on lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 04:44 PM |
| 1 | What is causing the rise in virginity amongst men? Is it too late for these men to reenter society after becoming a 30+ year old hermit outcast?What I find interesting is that it seems to be ok (or even encouraged) for women these days to date a group of guys at once, but men who do this are still demonized. If it’s totally OK for Sally to fuck three guys a week on a “rotation”, then I don’t want to hear any more complaining about Jack doing the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 01:06 PM |
| 1 | What is causing the rise in virginity amongst men? Is it too late for these men to reenter society after becoming a 30+ year old hermit outcast?I don’t think any man seriously considers porn to be an adequate replacement for actual relationships and sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 01:00 PM |
| – | What is causing the rise in virginity amongst men? Is it too late for these men to reenter society after becoming a 30+ year old hermit outcast?I agree with this. There is way too much superficial pressure on men currently to “do everything right” with the dating process, not step on toes, not do anything that might be misconstrued as improper or “too forward” or whatever. Some guys can’t see through a lot of this and instead disengage altogether. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 12:54 AM |
| – | What is causing the rise in virginity amongst men? Is it too late for these men to reenter society after becoming a 30+ year old hermit outcast?Dude. I know that all incels feel that average looks for a dude somehow aren’t enough anymore. I can tell you that every single day, tons of average looking guys are in relationships having sex with women - and some of these women are actually quite attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 12:41 AM |
| – | What is causing the rise in virginity amongst men? Is it too late for these men to reenter society after becoming a 30+ year old hermit outcast?I agree with this. The vast majority of incels I have encountered are not grossly disfigured or extremely ugly by any means. Most are basically average looking and some are actually physically attractive. What this means, of course, is that the problem is social skills and their ability to interact with others - which is usually well below average. I have found that it’s usually very obvious within maybe 30 seconds of talking to a self proclaimed “incel” as to why they’re in that predicament. I’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 12:39 AM |
| 27 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?When I started dating again a few years ago, there were a surprising number of women I met who were still living with their parents - but this didn’t seem to affect their dating situation much. On the other hand, if I had still been living with my parents I think I would have had a much harder time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 05:27 PM |
| 0 | This sub is toxic for women (as well as men)A few years back, I’d been dating this chick I’d met on Bumble for a time and she showed me something on her phone while we were out…as I’m looking at the pic I can see notifications from other dudes on various dating apps coming in (and it was like 3 different messages in just 30 seconds or so, from 3 different guys to boot). And this wasn’t a super attractive chick, either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 04:45 AM |
| 4 | This sub is toxic for women (as well as men)“Men don’t usually like me” is a strong clue that something about your personality is way, way off (or at least that your selection process for guys is way off). In the sexual desert that modern America often is, it is not hard to find guys who will genuinely “like” almost any girl out there. If you’re striking out with guys over and over again, either you’re trying to get with the wrong guys or something about what you’re doing is really off-putting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 04:17 AM |
| 2 | This sub is toxic for women (as well as men)One thing I’ve observed about the current dating “regime” in modern America is that it actually serves no one. Men are frustrated, and unlike what is usually espoused in this sub, women are actually mostly miserable with the situation as well (you don’t have to look around too far to hear all the griping about “where have all the good men gone”, etc etc). Nobody likes all this atomization. If you took all these posts to heart, you’d think that modern women are a-ok with hanging it up and living … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 04:11 AM |
| 0 | How much has losing weight impacted your dating life?I agree, and I speak from experience. I’m 6 foot 2. When I was just plain fat (280 lbs) I didn’t have much luck. At 230-240 with some muscle mass, I looked like a stocky tall dude with some strength and it went a lot better. Interestingly, my biggest successes happened at a weight of like 200-210 lbs without much mass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 09:27 PM |
| 2 | How much has losing weight impacted your dating life?I lost about 80lbs throughout my 20s (peak weight 282 lbs in college, down to a low of 198 lbs several years later (on a 6 foot 2 frame)). It seemed to make a huge difference in dating, although the weight loss was also accompanied by a big change in fashion sense and much better haircuts as well as a lot of growth in socialization etc. (Notably, even when I was at my thinnest I didn’t have a lot of muscle mass, although I was absolutely trying to build it.) Also, growing a stubble length beard … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 09:20 PM |
| 1 | How much has losing weight impacted your dating life?Being fat is definitely a lifestyle. There is a reason why the medical community refers to exercising, eating better, etc as “lifestyle changes”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 09:16 PM |
| 2 | Sex, Drugs, and Rock n' Roll Mega-ThreadMost relationships borne out of hardcore partying fall apart, in my observation. And I think this also relates to the fact that a lot of hardcore partying types aren’t exactly reliable, conscientious people that have their shit together…and over time that will take its toll on a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 09:11 PM |
| 0 | Not to take away from what women do, but I do think men do a lot of emotional labor than what’s saidI agree completely. I never ever heard anyone whining about “emotional labor” until the last few years or so. It seems to be a very trendy, millenial/Gen Z hip thing to bitch about. And it makes no sense to me at all, because what is being complained about is basically just the normal effort that goes into any human relationship. If you feel it’s necessary to whine about that, then I guess that’s fine, but it’s not some Great Big Symptom of the Patriarchy (TM) that we need to get all worked up a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Not to take away from what women do, but I do think men do a lot of emotional labor than what’s saidScheduling appointments and managing a household is not “emotional labor” - it is simply called “organizational skills” or even…”managing a household”. We don’t need to invent another term to describe things that have been described other ways for decades. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 11:00 PM |
| 7 | Not to take away from what women do, but I do think men do a lot of emotional labor than what’s saidYes, I would agree entirely with that. Women will sometimes listen, and often you do feel “heard” at that point, but they generally don’t do much to act on that afterwards and sometimes seem to forget that the conversation ever happened. My take on this is that when women communicate with each other, they let each other rant and then just “listen” passively without doing anything. Every girlfriend I’ve ever had usually doesn’t want concrete advice on how to make an issue better-she simply wants … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 10:52 PM |
| 21 | I see a lot of "call outs" where women wish men would share their emotions more, and now men are pushing back saying when they do, it's weaponized against them. What's the healthy balance?Ok - so can we then also stop “being the therapist” for our female partners? In modern America, a major part of being a male partner is dealing with a seemingly never ending flood of female anxieties and insecurities, whether rational or not. (And then if you give concrete advice on how to get rid of these, you’re told “I don’t want advice, I just want to be heard” or something.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/22 12:28 AM |
| 10 | I see a lot of "call outs" where women wish men would share their emotions more, and now men are pushing back saying when they do, it's weaponized against them. What's the healthy balance?Excellent post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 11:33 PM |
| 12 | I see a lot of "call outs" where women wish men would share their emotions more, and now men are pushing back saying when they do, it's weaponized against them. What's the healthy balance?These types of women absolutely are out there. The worst situations happen when it’s a woman who is very good at covering these tendencies up for a time - making herself look like someone with a good personality - who then lets it rip when the shit hits the fan. A real sucker punch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 10:53 PM |
| 4 | Jan 6th Hearing Mega-ThreadSo your preferred solution to the Ukraine situation is…? I’m all ears. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 04:26 PM |
| 0 | Jan 6th Hearing Mega-ThreadAmerican here. It’s really stupid and I’m tired of hearing about it too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 03:58 AM |
| 4 | Recent changes to public perception of masculinity have made men, on average, softer, weaker, and less attractive which is partially why so many women are choosing to remain singleBack when those Dos Equis “Most Interesting Man in the World” commercials were out, there was a comedian who did a “least interesting man in the world” routine and it was basically that. “Attends annual medical checkups and is up to date on all vaccines” etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 12:07 AM |
| 4 | Recent changes to public perception of masculinity have made men, on average, softer, weaker, and less attractive which is partially why so many women are choosing to remain single“Beta bux” is when men are selected for their provisional capacity, specifically wealth. Personality, status, fame, skill etc are not necessarily “beta” and could be seen as components of being “alpha” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 11:51 PM |
| 2 | Dating apps make misogynist menEh, it really depends. On Tinder and the other apps, you could absolutely tell when a girl was into you and when she wasn’t. If she was, she often would drive the conversation and sometimes even throw you her number unsolicited. If I had to keep pushing the conversation forward, that was a pretty good sign that “she’s just not that into you” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 10:38 PM |
| 8 | A womans lack of awareness of what actually attracts her can lead to self sabotage of a relationshipIn modern America, you generally won’t lose a bet underrating womens’ self awareness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 03:34 PM |
| 5 | What are you and why? (Also why are you here?)Some of us would like to live in a world that functions well. We see the world lurching towards a dynamic that already appears to be quite dysfunctional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 02:32 PM |
| 8 | How important is a man's physique to women?Uh, what? As others have stated, only bodybuilders and models care about weird shit like muscle insertion points and everything like that (barring some sort of extreme physical deformity that probably isn’t the issue for the overwhelming majority of men). Body fat distribution is a lot less relevant if you, you know, work out and eat properly and lose the excess fat. Height is the only thing that that is hard to change. For most men, losing 30lbs of fat and putting on 15lbs of muscle will do won… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 10:31 PM |
| 3 | Assuming the Tinderpocalypse is real, what happens to the dating market over the next 10 years in the west?Exactly. There’s no reason why someone in their 40s and 50s should be falling apart from a health standpoint. George Foreman was once world heavyweight champion at age 44 - think about that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 06:51 PM |
| 4 | What exactly does ‘expressing one’s sexuality’ mean?You’re forgetting that when Elvis started doing this, it was very controversial. Early on, The Beatles were actually sort of praised in some circles for having songs about wanting to hold a girl’s hand etc - and then their later songs got considerably edgier also. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 03:31 PM |
| -1 | What’s it like to be born hot and remain throughout childhood then losing it in your 20s letting yourself go?There are plenty of ways to work out at home. You don’t need to go to the gym to do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 02:45 PM |
| 3 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?More than you might think. Plenty of people of either gender in our culture are surprisingly OK with this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 02:40 PM |
| 6 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?Read the response. Nobody had computers in Roman times. They were a highly technologically advanced civilization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 02:39 PM |
| 2 | Assuming the Tinderpocalypse is real, what happens to the dating market over the next 10 years in the west?Also FB broke into the dating market…now they have a separate “FB dating” app. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 12:32 PM |
| 2 | Assuming the Tinderpocalypse is real, what happens to the dating market over the next 10 years in the west?People already talk about how trash it is and yet everyone keeps using it, as will as Bumble and Hinge and Coffee meets Bagel and all that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 12:31 PM |
| 14 | Assuming the Tinderpocalypse is real, what happens to the dating market over the next 10 years in the west?I also think that the backlash is already happening. The election of Trump, overturning Roe v Wade, etc etc are all symptoms of a big swing back the other way in American politics. (I’m actually surprised it didn’t take longer given how long we usually let things fester and disintegrate in this country before anyone says and/or does anything about it, but still.) Also, Trump is back in a big way with the Right after his justices overturned Roe. Be prepared for DJT to make another big time appear… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 12:23 PM |
| 0 | Roe v. Wade Mega-ThreadAmen. Thank you. Also: even when abortion was broadly available in every state, this problem still clearly existed. If, say, a woman wanted an abortion but the guy wanted the child, the guy was SOL and had no rights in the situation. If the woman wanted the child and the guy didn’t, then the woman could have the child and then use the state apparatus to compel the dude to pay for it. Either way, women have somehow achieved full dominance of the whole “reproductive rights” situation, and frankly … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 03:14 AM |
| 3 | Roe v. Wade Mega-ThreadThe bluest northern states are still overtaxed and are extremely expensive to live in…so yes, people will still keep moving to cheaper southern states with a lower tax burden, and will probably continue to do so in droves. There is a mass migration from north to south that has been going on in America for the last 20 years or so, and I doubt this decision will end that or even slow it down substantially. At the end of the day, cost of living and affordability are much more serious issues in day … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 02:47 AM |
| 2 | Are there any legit ways for men to learn how to be better with women?This is probably the most useless way to acquire this kind of information. I would not expect these types of women to supply anything other than basic platitudes and nonsense. Here and there, you will encounter a woman who has enough self awareness and openness to candidly discuss what does and doesn’t attract them, and how your own attributes could be changed to increase your attractiveness. However, at least in my experience, these women are quite rare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 03:09 AM |
| 26 | It is unbelievable how hostile the mainstream is to even the most innocent attempt by men to "learn" anything dating, courtship or romance-related“Men who annoyed me” = “some guy approached me and I didn’t like that someone whom I found ugly asked me out, boo hoo” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 02:15 AM |
| – | Roe v. Wade Mega-ThreadHow would you respond to the fact that a large fraction of women (up to 40%, per surveys) are pro life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 10:08 PM |
| – | Roe v. Wade Mega-ThreadAll of these things were already happening even when Roe v Wade was still in effect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 10:06 PM |
| 6 | Roe v. Wade Mega-ThreadI agree with some of what you’re saying. Trump would have never been elected had the left not been so incredibly bold and persistent in driving forward every last bit of what they wanted politically in this country. The American left has never known how to compromise, and certainly not within the last 30 years or so. The election of DJT was not much more than a gigantic backlash against 30+ years of hard lurching to the left in American politics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 09:58 PM |
| 4 | Is it likely that (shallow) men are turned off by domesticity, especially when coupled with aging?Wrong. Many Asian cultures have a long history of “gentleman’s clubs”, “bar girls”, hookers and concubines etc etc. Japan, Vietnam, Thailand etc all have this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 03:40 PM |
| 2 | Roe v. Wade Mega-ThreadI personally find it unnerving-perhaps even disgusting-that your perception of pregnancy is just that it’s a “problem”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 11:45 PM |
| 4 | Roe v. Wade Mega-ThreadWhat a ridiculous strawman argument. Please post actual arguments rather than inflammatory nonsense. That’s not at all what he is saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 11:44 PM |
| 3 | Do women as they approach mid 20s / 30s start to cut out male 'friends' from their life?The funny thing is that it’s always the exact same process on social media: years and years of trashy party pics, and then suddenly there’s a U-turn and you get the “instagramy” carefully posed boyfriend shots and then the monthly shots of their kid growing up after they have them interspersed with glorious HGTV style home pictures that makes them look like they’re the height of domesticity. It’s not real maturation. You don’t suddenly go from endless drunk party and vacation pics in clubs to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 08:46 PM |
| 0 | Today is just another reason why women should be extremely picky about MenAgreed. This won’t be as big of a deal as it has been made out to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 06:52 PM |
| 3 | Here is the one and only advice that will work for you average and even unattractive menAnd plus it’s a gigantic waste of time? Imagine if this guy had applied the same time and effort into developing other “new leads” with single woman who may have actually been interested in him… “Orbiting” and “oneitis chasing” are stupid mostly because they’re extremely inefficient and because they’re generally ineffective. Yes, if you run into a tree with your shoulder enough times you may eventually knock it down…but that doesn’t mean it’s a “good strategy”, and you may hurt yourself in the p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 03:35 PM |
| 3 | So what is being the pillo sphere view of this jonny depp amber herd thing im wondering??She’ll just move to Florida or Nevada or one of the other states that won’t attach most assets to judgements. OJ Simpson still hasn’t paid like $10 million of the judgement in the wrongful death suit against him from the Brown family. He lives in Florida and they won’t take his assets. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 02:34 PM |
| 5 | So what is being the pillo sphere view of this jonny depp amber herd thing im wondering??Lolololol. I don’t think Amber Heard is going to be as threatened by this as it seems. If nothing else, she can use the “thin pretty white woman” bit to glom onto a rich guy who will (at least for a time) tolerate her shit. This woman once dated Elon Musk. She can pull it off again. Google Karla Holmoka - allowed her BF to rape and murder her own sister, among other girls. Went to jail for a time in Canada, got out, and found a dude stupid enough to wife her up. Given the stupidity and thirstine… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 02:29 PM |
| 3 | Women should stop trying to give men dating adviceNo joke - I once dated a lesbian and learned more about the dating process, how to get a woman off, etc in one night than in several years of dating straight women. It was very helpful, and eye opening | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 07:07 PM |
| 1 | I don't blame women for my singlenessBecause someone who is “cold approaching” women in the street might get rejected by 7 women in one hour. To some extent, it is a numbers game and a big part of success with it is just pushing the numbers up further. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 04:25 AM |
| 1 | Dating is dying because Men’s historical value is negatedEvery woman I’ve encountered who talks about “having it all” is at least low key miserable (and often “high key” miserable). And families where the parents are hell bent on “having it all” are usually doing an extremely poor job of raising their children-basically letting daycare and others raise their kids. That’s not actually “parenting”, it’s horseshit. And as we raise one increasingly fucked up generation after another here in America, the damage is obvious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 05:04 PM |
| 1 | Dating is dying because Men’s historical value is negatedBingo on the “abusive employer” bit. When dating I encounter so many “chic professional women” who are being utterly mistreated by their employers…and yet often times they’re going back for more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 03:29 PM |
| 4 | Dating is dying because Men’s historical value is negatedNo. Look, I lean red pill, but I have never bought into the idea that the whole force moving society forward is the male sex drive. It’s much more nuanced and complicated than that. There are, for instance, eunichs who have been highly successful and accomplished throughout history. Keeping men motivated is important, yes, but sex is not the only thing that keeps the world going around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 03:28 PM |
| 6 | Dating is dying because Men’s historical value is negatedLol wtf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 02:04 PM |
| 1 | Dating is dying because Men’s historical value is negatedThose classic masculine roles aren’t actually obsolete. In fact, if you read between the lines on what women are saying when they’re whining about “where have all the good men gone”, they’re more in demand than ever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 02:03 PM |
| 3 | Is Billy Beta happy?Every so often, a woman will drop the facade and speak their “truth” - as warped and mean as that truth actually is. We just saw that happen right here, folks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 03:14 AM |
| 2 | Is Billy Beta happy?How would you like to describe a situation where a man has the majority of his assets removed and then is assigned an absurdly high monthly payment just for the privilege of having once been married to a woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 03:07 AM |
| 3 | Men (and women if applicable) who became successful with the opposite sex after being unsuccessful in their young to adult life, did it make you bitter, cynical, or spiteful towards the opposite sex?Bingo! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 12:46 AM |
| 4 | Men (and women if applicable) who became successful with the opposite sex after being unsuccessful in their young to adult life, did it make you bitter, cynical, or spiteful towards the opposite sex?The best part is when women get treated like crap by one childish loser after another, and then go around like “where have all the good men gone??”. Actually, sister, you passed up hoards and hoards of them on your search for the next douchebag. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 12:46 AM |
| 11 | Is Billy Beta happy?I argue that these arrangements seem to “work”, until they don’t. Billy Beta, who may never see the impending divorce coming, is happy with everything until the divorce papers are suddenly filed and his seemingly idyllic lifestyle comes crashing down. Billy is then thrown to the wolves in biased family courts that are often extremely unfriendly to men, and he is often stripped of any wealth he has managed to accumulate (through asset division, alimony, and often absurdly high child support payme… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 03:34 PM |
| 3 | Is Billy Beta happy?Also, the divorce rates aren’t actually “low”. Most divorce rates are expressed as a % of marriages that have failed cumulatively over time ever since the marriage originally occurred, and the % of failed marriages rises over time as more and more marriages fail. If you plot the % of failed marriages in our generation vs that of the boomers and such, we are almost exactly at the same place they were at the same age we are now. So the “lower divorce rate” is basically nothing more than a media fa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 03:28 PM |
| 0 | What exactly is a "Low value man"?I’ve definitely seen it. I’ve also seen situations where the “criminal trash guy” was a secret fuck buddy she was involved with, either on the side during a relationship or when she was “single”. There are absolutely educated women who get tangled up with these guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 07:30 PM |
| 2 | Is it common for women to have been "Alpha widowed"? Do women have trouble "falling for" new men that havent met the standards of better looking or higher status men of thier past. Do these men have to "work harder" to make up for the failed comparison?Remember in Blade Runner how it was a status symbol to have a real live pet animal? Only the rich had them. Everyone else has robots. Now imagine that with human partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 12:56 AM |
| 2 | Is it common for women to have been "Alpha widowed"? Do women have trouble "falling for" new men that havent met the standards of better looking or higher status men of thier past. Do these men have to "work harder" to make up for the failed comparison?Or “unfinished business” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 12:52 AM |
| 2 | Keeping FWB while in a committed relationship?Usually this isn’t someone you have no contact with for years. It’s someone who occasionally casually texts with you or something, but not to the level of an actual “friend”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/22 08:46 PM |
| 2 | Keeping FWB while in a committed relationship?Some women kinda act like this. Here and there I’ve had a woman look into my phone (without permission) and start asking about this person or that person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/22 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Is it common for women to have been "Alpha widowed"? Do women have trouble "falling for" new men that havent met the standards of better looking or higher status men of thier past. Do these men have to "work harder" to make up for the failed comparison?Yeah a lot of “being young” was actually quite shite. No money, no independence, etc etc - it wasn’t exactly a karmic high. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/22 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Is it common for women to have been "Alpha widowed"? Do women have trouble "falling for" new men that havent met the standards of better looking or higher status men of thier past. Do these men have to "work harder" to make up for the failed comparison?Look, not only is NRE not all that great, but teenage love tends to be especially off the wall insane. After the dopamine and such wears off years later, you usually look back like “wtf was that all about? That person wasn’t even really that special? I went crazy and put so much time and effort into…that person?” (Or at least that’s how I feel about it.) Guys who are hung up about some old partner for decades are usually quite broken otherwise. Also, at least as an adult I find NRE to be more of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/22 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Is there truth in this - If a woman doesn't give you her body, she isn't interested in you?In modern America, it is assumed that a romantic relationship will involve sex. And there is nothing wrong with that. I am not staying around as a pseudo BF in some “relationship” where the chick is not attracted to me and doesn’t want to be intimate. It may not be her “responsibility” to have sex, but it’s certainly not my responsibility to hang around for some asexual “arrangement” that wasn’t what I wanted either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/22 06:18 PM |
| 5 | Men and women, have you ever been the "Chad/Stacy" who she/he was cheating with? What are your feelings on it now?Back when I was dating I made it a point to never get involved with married/attached women…but even then there were a few chicks who were “secretly” cheating on the husband/BF, or eventually claimed that they “had an understanding” with the partner that they could do this, or whatever. I got away from these types of women as fast as I could. Absolutely not worth the trouble - and I was also the guy who had been cheated on in the past too. I don’t want to be part of that. Not to mention that wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/22 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Women CONSTANTLY reiterate the axiom that “the standards for men are at an all time low” and that “the bar is on the floor. ” This is not only total bullshit, but an enormous slap in the face to the vast majority of males who are good people, many of whom are attractive and successful.Lol well keep in mind that there’s a “nice fat ass” (like maybe what J.Lo has, or something) and then there’s the grotesque obesity we see throughout the Americas these days. When the average guy says “I like a fat ass”, he’s not referring to someone who weighs 400lbs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 11:51 PM |
| 0 | Women CONSTANTLY reiterate the axiom that “the standards for men are at an all time low” and that “the bar is on the floor. ” This is not only total bullshit, but an enormous slap in the face to the vast majority of males who are good people, many of whom are attractive and successful.The list of things women want in men is far longer and much more absurdly specific than what men want from women. The only difference is that men tend to divulge their preferences openly, while women generally keep them in a shadowy penumbra where men often can only infer or guess at them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 11:43 PM |
| 6 | Women CONSTANTLY reiterate the axiom that “the standards for men are at an all time low” and that “the bar is on the floor. ” This is not only total bullshit, but an enormous slap in the face to the vast majority of males who are good people, many of whom are attractive and successful.I’ve heard women argue that getting pumped and dumped by chads is “trauma”, basically on a par with being in a plane crash or dealing with an active shooter situation. Women regularly seem to embellish and massively overstate the emotional impact of relatively minor issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 11:10 PM |
| 2 | Is it pointless to argue with women about male dating struggles? Why or why not?How does male birth control change that? If the “meta” is escorts and VR porn, why are their so many places on the internet (like this one) dedicated to bitching about the status quo? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 09:26 PM |
| 3 | Is it pointless to argue with women about male dating struggles? Why or why not?Male birth control isn’t going to change a damn thing about the current messed up dating situation. I still don’t understand why so many guys seem to feel that it will? Sex robots aren’t going to change anything either. Women aren’t suddenly going to start wanting dudes they didn’t want before just because those dudes have started fucking robots. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 07:18 PM |
| 4 | Is it pointless to argue with women about male dating struggles? Why or why not?I think in most of these situations, the girls don’t necessarily even know that they’re “sharing” the guy. With OLD I’m fairly sure that what’s going on (from my own personal experience as a dude on OLD who did reasonably well) is usually a number of chicks match with a dude and start “dating” him, each with hopes of having some sort of actual relationship. (The women usually don’t know about each other, unless the guy is very open about the fact that he is “dating around”.) The dude may or may … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Is it pointless to argue with women about male dating struggles? Why or why not?Does this actually happen? Like have people actually started dating (and maybe even gotten married) of Xbox live? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 06:59 PM |
| 4 | What do you think of women who post sexy pictures on social media while in a relationship?Lol wait so this “project” was to establish some sort of sexual interactions with other people online? Wtf? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 05:31 PM |
| 1 | What do you think of women who post sexy pictures on social media while in a relationship?Bingo. This is the correct answer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Why is mate guarding, even in subtle ways, reviled in western society?A major way to avoid “stepping off the path” is to avoid and/or be kept away from temptation. Ex drug users and sober alcoholics know this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/22 12:50 AM |
| 2 | Is it that hard to be top 20% anyway?Because a lot of men who claim to “do well on dating apps” are actually dating lots of trashy, obese, or otherwise undesirable women. Source: my own experience on the apps. I got plenty of matches and quite a few meetups too - but many of the women who came out ultimately had quite a few red flags. I agree on the “women searching for a bailout” bit also. There were an awful lot of broke single moms and/or women in their 20s/30s who were still living with their parents and clearly wanted a man wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/22 12:21 AM |
| 2 | Men would you trade getting more attention for increase risk of being sodomized, stalked, harassed and being sex trafficked for more attention and special treatment from women?Strawman question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/22 03:38 PM |
| 1 | how confident are you with your body? does it affect your sex life?Show me examples of fat guys on the covers of magazines. Only examples I can think of are possibly Jonah Hill, Chris Farley, maybe Tenacious D or something? There aren’t a lot of truly obese male celebs out there. Maybe Biggie, Rick Ross, John Candy, John Goodman, current day Shaq…that’s about it off the top of my head, and I had to go decades back to point those out. Whereas there are a lot of truly obese women making magazine covers now (cough SI Swimsuit) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/22 07:19 PM |
| 4 | how confident are you with your body? does it affect your sex life?“Dad bod” describes a flabby, unmuscled middle aged dude. Not necessarily grossly obese, but also not a body that really looks “masculine” either. It’s not exactly a compliment and isn’t supposed to be | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/22 07:12 PM |
| 6 | how confident are you with your body? does it affect your sex life?IIRC, there were several studies semi recently showing that the overall favorite male body type for women resembled what Brad Pitt looked like in Fight Club - lean, some muscle, fit, but not necessarily built like the Rock. Some women do like that “mega muscle” look, but not many. It’s sort of like height…yes women do like a 6 foot dude, but they don’t necessarily want a dude as tall as Shaq either. Guys that are too tall are sometimes dismissed as “freaks”, especially if they’re not very propor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/22 06:18 PM |
| 0 | What's the alternative to "be yourself"?The problem is that a lot of women are lying through their teeth about their own issues, pasts, and actual desires. The worst example of this I saw back when I was dating was a chick who, a few months into an LTR, lets it slip that she’s a convicted felon with past charges of drug trafficking among several other big issues. Yeah, no thanks. Men certainly aren’t the only liars out there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/22 06:06 PM |
| 3 | For generations a women’s only worth was her looks. Now it’s mens turn.Or cleaning up after a woman. Having been in several LTRs and a marriage, I can tell you that the old canard that women are always clean is an absolute myth | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/22 04:29 PM |
| 5 | Lack of relevant social circles is bad, here's the main reason.Back when I was dating a few years back, I definitely noticed the same issues with scheduling you did. If you have a decent career, there’s not that much time left in the day to make quality meals and work out, never mind date. The dating time was almost always on the weekend. It’s actually also one of the reasons I was ultimately happy to trade in the casual dating/“spinning plates” thing for an LTR. Casual dating claims an enormous amount of time, energy and effort as you constantly chase new … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/22 11:44 PM |
| 4 | Women aren't meant to be monogamous.Yep! This is it! I’ve encountered a few people who were doing the whole “ethical non monogamy” thing, and the amount of melodramatic nonsense they had to put up with to achieve this just seemed to be absurd and not worth the price of entry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/22 11:28 PM |
| 3 | I keep seeing we have enormously high standards but like what exactly are they? And why does the dating world not reflect said absurdly Hugh standards most women have?One thing I noticed over and over again when I was dating was women boasting about the wealth and other attributes of random men they had dated in the past…one chick mentioned she had been on some guy’s yacht and another talked about some guy who had expensive furniture throughout his apartment. Another talked about once meeting up with a “friend” who lived in expensive apartments near the new WTC. I was always like…ok, so am I supposed to be impressed by this? It was like they thought associati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/22 09:19 PM |
| 3 | Highlighting that there are roughly the same number of women and men in heterosexual monogamous relationships doesn't mean that dating is equally difficult from both sides.The idea that women are being “harassed” on dating apps is frankly ridiculous. Women can easily just delete matches they don’t like hearing from on any dating app. Most women do not easily give out phone numbers to anything other than their top tier of dating contenders. Many of them also seem to thrive on the amount of attention they get on these apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/22 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Is it really that common for men to have bad hygiene that many girls here have to mention it as a disqualifier?Yup. I worked a mom and pop restaurant in college and often got assigned to clean the bathrooms. I can’t remember a single night where the womens’ room was cleaner than the mens’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/22 09:17 PM |
| 1 | Is it really that common for men to have bad hygiene that many girls here have to mention it as a disqualifier?I agree with all this. I have been to a number of chicks’ places that are straight up filthy. Girl looks immaculate out on a date but her place is a damn pigsty. Or I’ve seen chicks get ready to go out and leave behind a super dirty bathroom and bedroom with random stuff strewn everywhere, but the chick looks perfectly put together. There are absolutely chicks who stink as well, or whose nether regions smell godawful. I always find the whole “hygiene” bit to be curious given that a lot of chicks… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/22 09:09 PM |
| 10 | What were you told about attracting the opposite sex as you were growing up?Being polite is pretty useless advice with modern women. Now I want to say that I’m not advocating men act like craven assholes - BUT there is a difference between acting like a good, normal, respectful guy and a cool dude and copping an over the top “Southern genteel gentleman” persona, which comes off as fake, put on, unnatural and even condescending and ridiculous. I see guys trying this excessively polite, fake act around ladies and unsurprisingly it goes absolutely nowhere. Also, most moder… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/22 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Guys, why are you so easily influenced by sex?Where are women’s morals? Nowadays the “commitment” associated with marriage basically means nothing, and women come and go as they please. Please do not criticize us for not wanting to stick with one family when your gender isn’t doing it anymore either. We have simply responded to the environment around us, in which it is clear that “commitment” as it used to be understood basically no longer exists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/22 04:33 PM |
| 3 | Guys, why are you so easily influenced by sex?Yep! Fully agree. Poor farmers in the 1800s United States routinely had >10 children per family, and those families truly had nothing. It’s kinda funny - nowadays the Americans with the biggest families also tend to be the people least equipped to care for all those kids. It’s only MC and UMC types who wring their hands about “the cost of having kids” and decide to have fewer of them. Rest assured, everyone else is continuing on full speed ahead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/22 04:27 PM |
| 22 | Do feminists date differently?Yes. Absolutely yes. This has been my experience as well. They are almost magnetically attracted to the most toxic, nasty, immature men out there, and they use their experiences with these godawful men to push a narrative that all men are like this and need some sort of government intervention etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/22 03:19 PM |
| 4 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesYou argue that most relationships between competent, educated men and women start in the workplace. Meanwhile, asking someone out at work has become such a risky endeavor that many of us avoid it altogether (I certainly have always avoided workplace romances, and after a past close friendship with a work colleague ended in an ugly falling out I tend to avoid making close friends at work too). What say you to this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/22 04:14 PM |
| 3 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesThe problem isn’t that the government will step in when things get worse…the government obviously won’t, and how would they fix this issue anyway? The real problem is that the elites have set up this stupid “battle of the sexes”for the last 70 years or so, and now we’re seeing the consequences. This isn’t about “your advantages” as a women, or “my advantages” as a man. It’s about making a society work, and having each gender keep score and try to pull one over on the other side isn’t helping to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/22 03:57 PM |
| 2 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesBingo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/22 03:20 PM |
| 8 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesI fully agree. Stats like this make the future of western society look bleak indeed. Nobody should be cheering this on. It’s bad news from top to bottom | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/22 03:20 PM |
| 1 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesKids need two parents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/22 03:01 PM |
| 3 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesAs can men. And children can be (and often are) victims of domestic violence by their mothers. We don’t like to talk about it because it’s an inconvenient truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/22 02:56 PM |
| 6 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesThe problem is that you think only men abuse their children, and that women are inevitably better parents. Please know that this is not necessarily the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/22 02:55 PM |
| 2 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesLet’s not paint with a broad brush here. There are plenty of livable, if not even affluent, places in Asia, Africa and S. America. The West has not cornered the market in affluence in this world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/22 02:53 PM |
| 20 | Dating/Trying to get laid is totally a bad ROI for men.What I find disconcerting is the idea that anything normally worth doing in life - building a great career, having good friends and hobbies, etc is only worth doing if it gets you laid or married. As a man who has at times had poor success with women and great success, I find this view to be very narrow minded and honestly, ridiculous. There are so many other things that contribute to “quality of life” other than just access to sex (although I agree that sex is absolutely part of that). The idea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/22 05:07 PM |
| 21 | Solving "Our greatest public-health crisis? The angry young American male"While mental health is certainly a factor, I think it is also very important to not automatically attribute these events to mental illness. A close friend is a psychologist, and one thing he says very frequently is that we need to stop automatically looking for mental illness whenever these things happen, because in many cases this didn’t happen because of a specific mental pathology. (And for the record, autism spectrum disorders are not associated with an increased risk of violence.) It makes … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/22 02:31 PM |
| 0 | Why do some women go through a "crazy" period? (Bad Girls)Look, again there’s a big difference between typical “teenage awkwardness” and “teenage naughtiness” and being a teenager who steals cars and does all sorts of stupid nonsense. There’s an appropriate range of “normal” limit pushing etc as a teenager and young adult, and then there’s full out dysfunction I.e. getting pregnant at age 15, going to juvie as a high school student, being a drug addicted mess, whatever. There are definite “bad boy” and “bad girl” types present even at the preteen years… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/22 12:59 AM |
| 1 | Why do some women go through a "crazy" period? (Bad Girls)Look, there’s having mild difficulty in relationships from lack of experience, and then there’s those out there who have lives of utter chaos and dysfunction. Being a drug addicted, dysfunctional, chaotic mess is not normal at any age. For either gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/22 12:36 AM |
| 1 | Why do some women go through a "crazy" period? (Bad Girls)I have to question the vetting skills of anyone who ends up with someone who has 7 kids by four different mothers and steals prescription meds. This type of tomfoolery isn’t hard to screen for, seriously. Limited sympathy here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/22 12:07 AM |
| 3 | Why do some women go through a "crazy" period? (Bad Girls)I don’t totally agree with this. I know very successful, clean cut, hard working guys who have their shit together and make money - and some struggle with dating. Most bad boy losers as described here actually don’t have this trouble, even though the rest of their lives are coming apart at the seams. There are also “player” types who otherwise have their shit together and do ok in life and dating. I agree that nobody should want their lives to resemble the saga described here, but this sordid ta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 11:58 PM |
| 2 | Love is dead and Hollywood killed itlol. “You don’t like it, leave.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 06:45 PM |
| 3 | Love is dead and Hollywood killed itI read this comment and almost sprayed my coffee everywhere. We have a 50% divorce rate and an absurdly high number of single moms out there, people hooking up nonstop on dating apps etc and I’m supposed to believe that families and marriage and “love” are doing “just fine”? No, bro. lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 06:43 PM |
| 3 | Love is dead and Hollywood killed itSo here’s the big question: is society overall better off now? Or were things actually better then? Certainly our overall levels of happiness seem to have taken a dive nowadays. There are many reasons for why society overall is worse now than it was before, but I think many people were actually happier then than they would be now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 06:40 PM |
| 2 | Love is dead and Hollywood killed itNo fault divorce has been a clear net negative for society. Our society has become worse in almost every meaningful metric since the 1950s, and while there are many reasons for this the utter destruction of the family structure in our society has been a very large part of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 06:37 PM |
| 3 | How will the increasingly large education between the sexes affect dating in the future?I agree. I don’t think marriage and the desire for family is just going to go away wholesale. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 04:11 AM |
| 2 | What’re your thoughts on being treated/giving different treatment after a rejection?Agreed. Tommy is an idiot for thinking that doing things for a girl and giving her stuff is going to yield a relationship. That isn’t how this works. Good, healthy friendships also aren’t built on one person showering the other with gifts and doing lots of random shit for them. If that starts happening to me, I’m going to wonder wtf is up. Sally is also an idiot for not seeing this coming. IMHO, from experience as both being “Tommy” and being the dude that Sally was banging while she told me abo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 12:37 AM |
| 2 | Unpopular Opinion. Guys who are struggling to get women should spend more time getting famous than trying to improve with women.They got the “rock star” part of the act down without actually being rock stars | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/22 11:59 PM |
| 1 | The reason men get butthurt about women making them waitGive me a break. Getting “pumped and dumped” is not “trauma”, at least not on the level that I regard “trauma”. Trauma is when your loved ones die in a plane crash, or when the Russians are rolling their tanks through your neighborhood and shooting your neighbors, etc etc. Modern dating sucks, but it’s not “traumatic” unless someone is being raped or actually abused. Fully consensual sex that didn’t end in the relationship you hoped for is not “trauma”. It’s called “life”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/22 01:08 AM |
| 3 | The reason men get butthurt about women making them waitI agree. During my “dating phase” a few years back before I got married again, the vast majority of chicks that were dragging out the idea of sex eventually ghosted, or I bailed out after it was obvious that the relationship wasn’t actually going anywhere. In general, the chick “dragging out sex” all but guaranteed that there never would be any sex. (There was one genuine exception, and she was an Indian grad student who had recently come to the US and turned out to be a virgin. She also eventua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/22 12:37 AM |
| 15 | The One Standard That Fixes Modern DatingBingo. Very well said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 11:29 PM |
| 1 | In your opinion, what is the difference between a One Night Stand, Friends With Benefits (or F-Buddy), and a Relationship?This is why dating should usually lead to sex within 3-4 dates…if it’s not clearly heading that way, it’s time to move on. If I look back at my dating history…virtually every time a girl tried to delay sex beyond 4 dates (at most), I was basically being played. The one exception I can think of is an Indian grad student I dated who had just come over from India - she turned out to be a virgin and was naive. (I stuck with it because she was very attractive and because her desire to delay sex seeme… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 04:24 PM |
| 8 | Do guys who have success with women really not give a fuck about attractive women they date?On Tinder, that was my experience. Average relationship time was something like 6-8 weeks, and the end of the relationship usually seemed to be predicated on the woman’s loss of interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 04:04 PM |
| 8 | Do guys who have success with women really not give a fuck about attractive women they date?And also because modern women ghost early and often? I was ghosted many times during my most recent dating phase, but I only ghosted someone else once (and I had safety concerns that time). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 04:02 PM |
| 2 | Religion and sexLololol. I’ve met these types of people before. I certainly wouldn’t marry one of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 03:45 PM |
| 0 | Religion and sexMa’am, a lot of people living in the South don’t really have Christian values, either- especially not the ones who shout their piety from the rooftops. These people are often some of the biggest hypocrites I’ve ever met, and they usually mix in a healthy dose of racism, sexism, and other un-Christlike nonsense into their beliefs too. Someone who was just banging a fuck buddy last summer isn’t some sort of deep fundamentalist Christian, it’s someone looking to clean up appearances before they get… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 03:38 PM |
| 3 | Religion and sexLogic in southern fundie type churches is especially hard to come by, even by Christianity standards | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 03:36 PM |
| 3 | Religion and sexI currently live in the Bible Belt. What I will say about “faith” down here is that it seems to be very superficial. There’s what people do to keep up appearances of their piety, and then there’s what’s actually going on outside the view of polite society…and those are often two very different things. For instance, I have encountered a LOT of gay people who simply hide in the fringes of society because they know they won’t be accepted…the rest of society simply thinks these people don’t exist. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 03:13 PM |
| 9 | Are men really bad at over/underestimating a woman's interest?Fully agree. I think the “emotional intelligence” of most women is effectively a myth. Most modern women certainly have a very poor understanding of men and their motivations. They can be effective at manipulating each other (and sometimes of men) but I wouldn’t call this “emotional intelligence”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 01:53 PM |
| 8 | Are men really bad at over/underestimating a woman's interest?Men aren’t bad at reading the signals so much as women are really bad at delivering them. However, one thing I will say as a man who has had both a phase where I wasn’t very successful with women and one where I was…is that when a woman is actually interested, it generally isn’t subtle. Obviously there’s outliers and all, but my guess is that whenever women are doing these super subtle things to put themselves out there for a guy, they’re not really all that interested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 12:38 PM |
| 14 | Do Women Give Their "Sexual Best" To Their Boyfriends or Husbands?Go talk to your female friends and try to tell me that at least one of them doesn’t approach sex in a marriage in this “transactional” way, ie “I don’t fuck him unless he acts right and does everything I need him to”. It is a very, very common line of thinking among women these days. Please do not denigrate the daily experience of literally millions of men just because you don’t want to open your eyes to reality. (And no, describing the reality of millions of men out there is not “gross” either.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/22 03:12 PM |
| 13 | The Johnny Depp and Amber Herd Mega-Thread (Again)Depp had a super fucked up childhood with a broke, abusive mother. He’s a classic example of how abused children tend to end up in the exact same situations as adults unless they go to great lengths to work through their issues (and he certainly has not). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/22 02:24 PM |
| 3 | The Johnny Depp and Amber Herd Mega-Thread (Again)Yeah. The key is to either stay away from the Amber Heard types, or to hit it once and walk (and make sure all sharp objects have been removed from the room first). Much worse are the chicks who are able to cover up the crazy long enough to make you think they’re actually good for an LTR (or even marriage, cringe). But Heard seems like the type where you’d be able to smell the crazy coming out of her pores the first time you met her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/22 02:15 PM |
| 3 | Men also practice dual mating strategyLol no. I’ve seen the guys who try to “treat a whore like gold” before. These are the guys - sometimes even celebrities - who you see wifing up vapid trashy girls, basically because they’re hot (re: every dude who has married a Kardashian). And in the case of the Kardashian marriages, look how that shit turned out. There is not a single man who has gotten involved with a Kardashian who turned out better because of it. Most guys getting away from a Kardashian family member were happy to not end u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 01:34 AM |
| 1 | Men also practice dual mating strategyOverpriced, boujee “resorts” where you can enjoy the Caribbean islands (or other tropical locales around the world) without such icky things as interacting with the locals, dealing with insects, etc etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 01:26 AM |
| 12 | Men also practice dual mating strategyI can’t parse this comment. What exactly is a “sigma female” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 01:04 AM |
| 5 | Men also practice dual mating strategyYeah lol. Pay for the first date, dude! The imbalance in expectations for dating expenses is absurd. I was actually pleasantly surprised/shocked when a few chicks I dated wanted to pay for dates themselves, but that was relatively uncommon | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 01:04 AM |
| 5 | Men also practice dual mating strategyImagine if you’re dating a guy and you want him to take you on fancy trips and buy you nice shit. He throws up excuses about this but does give you a few token gifts every now and then. Later, you somehow find out that this guy has showered his past girlfriends with expensive jewelry and taken them with on luxe trips to the French Riviera and Ibiza. Catch my drift? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 12:43 AM |
| 11 | Men also practice dual mating strategyUse your noggin. If someone keeps promising you something that never materializes - and I don’t care if this is a potential spouse, an employer, the government, whomever - after a while you bail out. If you stay in it and let yourself get strung along, you have nobody but yourself to blame for it. Not much sympathy for this. (And for the record, some women do the exact same thing when it comes to sex in relationships. “Oh just wait a while longer baby, I just don’t feel comfortable yet, blah bla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Q4M What do you tell men who have been hurt by numerous women compared to what you tell women who have been hurt by numerous men?Chick I knew at my last job was like this, except that she only wanted Latino men. And she was also blonde/blue eyed/etc. It’s interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 08:45 PM |
| 4 | Q4M What do you tell men who have been hurt by numerous women compared to what you tell women who have been hurt by numerous men?It “feels weird” because you’re experiencing cognitive dissonance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 08:40 PM |
| 2 | Women say that the bar low for men? Is this really true?And can’t we say the same about women? Getting into a relationship/marriage as a woman and subsequently gaining 50 lbs and stopping any sex is not exactly keeping up your end of the deal either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 08:21 PM |
| 10 | Women say that the bar low for men? Is this really true?So between this story and the Heard/Depp saga, we now know that the litmus test for whether you’re hot enough to get away with anything is to shit on the bed. If you stay in the relationship, you’re good! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Women say that the bar low for men? Is this really true?Actually, these days a lot of UMC women seem to be OK with sexy but otherwise unaccomplished or stupid men as long as they clean up well and look good in the Instagram pics. UMC female dating standards have gone way, way down as far as I can tell. Many seem to want a sexy but stupid guy who entertains them and who they feel they can order around, not an “equal partner”. Looking through my Instagram, I have seen a surprising number of “high powered” UMC type chicks pursuing trashy, tattoo covered… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Women say that the bar low for men? Is this really true?Still one of Kanye’s best lyrics: “But while y'all washin', watch him He gon' make it to a Benz out of that Datsun He got that ambition, baby, look at his eyes This week he moppin' floors, next week it's the fries” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 07:21 PM |
| 2 | Do men over 30 really get higher in sexual market value?Funny thing is that women always seem to start off with sexy, bad boy bro types and then “mature into” the beta types. You virtually never hear a girl say “oh when I was in my early 20s I was so into goofy nerds, but I outgrew that and switched to sexy bad boy losers with no job in my 30s”. There seems to be only one direction this goes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 05:38 PM |
| 2 | Do men over 30 really get higher in sexual market value?Yea, IF you’ve been working on yourself and have become more attractive and a better overall prospect. In my 20s, I dropped 80 lbs, eventually finished training for a six figure career, gained a lot of confidence, became a much better conversationalist, and figured out my personal fashion. All of this helped me immensely. If I had stayed in my parents basement for my 20s, eating chips by the bagful while playing online games and jacking off to Asian porn or whatever, I doubt that turning 30 woul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 05:29 PM |
| 8 | Don't men also consent to relationships?Men absolutely choose who they want to be dating. The worst place you can be mentally for a guy is thinking “well, there’s nothing else coming-so I guess I better go with this one.” I was there once as a college kid who had little luck in HS, and the chick that I ultimately married while in that mindset-whom I wasn’t even all that attracted to - eventually took advantage of me in ways I never would have anticipated. So yes, men need to choose a lot better than they do, and they need to walk away… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 05:26 PM |
| 2 | Is dating actually fun for you?Yeah. Exactly. Something kinda like that happened to me once, except I thought it was a genuine “female friend” and when I started dating someone else officially there was a nasty falling out and she quit speaking to me. (The kicker is that this “friend” was engaged to someone else!) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 03:25 AM |
| 2 | Do you think it's a good thing or a bad thing - or neither - that women dominate college and already have a foothold in dominating the economy? And why?Or could it be that men disproportionately occupy BOTH the high end of wealthy jobs in America as well as the “shit end” (I.e., the coal mines and factories and such)? Because that’s what the data show. Men are disproportionately represented in the most physically demanding, most injury prone, and most poorly compensated jobs in America and this has always been the case. You don’t see too many women down in the coal mines, on the front lines, or doing the other “dirty jobs” that really suck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Do you think it's a good thing or a bad thing - or neither - that women dominate college and already have a foothold in dominating the economy? And why?I feel very strongly that our generation is failing its kids by dumping them at daycare centers and not parenting them. And it’s leading to generation after generation of really fucked up kids who don’t know which end is up. Being a good parent fundamentally means actually being there with your kids, and having both parents working isn’t consistent with that. Then again, my Millenial cohort is probably the most ridiculously selfish and self absorbed generation in American history, so what else d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 09:25 PM |
| 2 | Do you think it's a good thing or a bad thing - or neither - that women dominate college and already have a foothold in dominating the economy? And why?Really depends on which college degrees you’re talking about. Frankly, way too many people are going to college at this point and way to many of the degrees these people are getting are worthless. Spending $160k to get a degree in art history is a complete waste of time and money, and the person who does that and moves back in with mom and dad in shame is not exactly moving their lives forward in any meaningful sense. That person would have been better off being a plumber. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Is dating actually fun for you?In modern America, normal male/female romantic relationships involve sex. It almost goes without saying that a romantic relationship should start to involve sex at some point. If sex is never offered and it starts to become obvious that it won’t be in any reasonable timeframe, then whatever is going on is some sort of half baked friendship that I’m not personally interested in. I have plenty of other friends and people I enjoy spending time with - I don’t need to be paying for “dates” over the c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Is dating actually fun for you?I think much too much has been made of the phrase “emotional labor”, and I have almost always heard that phrase being used by women. A better phrase would probably be “normal mental effort associated with relating to your friends and romantic partners”, which is simply the normal and valid price of having relationships with other human beings. Nobody seemed to be bitching about that until recently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 03:27 PM |
| 9 | Is dating actually fun for you?He doesn’t care if those immediate dates lead to sex that time - but if it doesn’t lead to sex by about the third date or so, he moves on. And from my experience in dating, that’s not unreasonable. Otherwise you will find women who string you along for months, having you pay for dates etc while they have no intention of having you as anything more than a pseudo-BF with a credit card. There is a major difference in vibe between the women who will have sex in a few dates and those who won’t-the fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 01:18 PM |
| 3 | How many relationships are really “successful?”Statistically speaking, the chance of that marriage working out is extremely low. And everyone starts off thinking they’re going to go the distance - but few do in the best of circumstances, never mind a couple that has three divorces between them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 01:30 AM |
| 1 | How many relationships are really “successful?”How does criticizing someone who is trying to understand the emotional dynamics around them serve you? That’s my question here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 01:25 AM |
| 2 | How many relationships are really “successful?”I agree with you. You can see lots and lots of couples out there who clearly aren’t “in it” anymore, and aren’t “in love with each other”. They perhaps tolerate each other, and stay in the marriage out of a sense of duty or inertia, but they’re not passionately in love by any means | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 12:00 AM |
| 1 | How many relationships are really “successful?”You know, it’s not just men that do this stuff. I’m a man who has been on the receiving end of cheating from women…it ain’t so pleasant either. Women aren’t exactly pure as the driven snow with all this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/22 11:39 PM |
| 6 | How many relationships are really “successful?”I think this is pretty accurate. I remember seeing a study somewhere that suggested only about 12.5% of couples were actually happy in the long term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/22 11:32 PM |
| 0 | [CMV] Women get exactly what they want from the options they have.Yep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/22 09:39 PM |
| 1 | Why is the man's interest not as important as a woman's while considering abortion?Good fathers are kept away from their kids a LOT more than you might think. Family courts in the US are very corrupt and manipulative, and many are biased in favor of the female parent. Also, sometimes all it takes is a mother deliberately not complying with a parenting agreement-ie, not turning the kids over to the dad when she is supposed to - and the dad may be stuck. It can be expensive to get a lawyer to go back to family court and demand that the mother comply with the agreement, and if th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/22 05:14 PM |
| 5 | Strategic pluralism: the scientific name for "alpha fucks beta bucks"Oh I think it’s a great idea, and it should be done. I’m just giving the reasons why the ”political will” doesn’t exist for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/22 01:59 AM |
| 29 | Strategic pluralism: the scientific name for "alpha fucks beta bucks"Because if the real percentage of kids who are the product of cheating came out (some say it could be as high as 20%), we’d have a major national problem on our hands and someone would have to figure out where the child support would come from, and all that. It would inconvenience too many people and step on the toes of too many cheating women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/22 11:52 PM |
| 2 | women and men with obvious red flagsI agree with this. “Dealbreaker” is some sort of trait etc that you personally don’t like, but that other people may be OK with or actually desire. It is also any trait or flaw that would cause you to immediately break off the relationship. “Red flags” are things that no sane/healthy person would want in a partner. Red flags can also be dealbreakers, but dealbreakers shouldn’t automatically be red flags. I.e., being a Christian fundie would be a dealbreaker for a lot of folks but not necessarily… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/22 06:49 PM |
| 0 | NY Post - Millennial men want 1950s housewives after they have kidsI can and I would (and I do, as I am married). And at some point, if it doesn’t make sense financially for the other spouse to be working, they shouldn’t be. I see way too many situations where having both spouses working leads to an enormous child care bill every month - to the extent that it basically negates one spouse’s income altogether-but the status quo continues because one spouse says they would “just go crazy” if they could not go out and go work, and had to stay home. Why do women wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/22 12:14 AM |
| 1 | NY Post - Millennial men want 1950s housewives after they have kidsThey earn more bachelor’s degrees, but more of the degrees women earn are essentially worthless (ie, liberal arts) and don’t lead to gainful employment and/or well paying jobs. Simple answer. And if you don’t believe me, check the US Dept of Labor statistics on the subject | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 08:25 PM |
| 1 | NY Post - Millennial men want 1950s housewives after they have kidsMoney has everything to do with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 06:56 PM |
| -2 | NY Post - Millennial men want 1950s housewives after they have kidsHe works 40 hours at $100k/year…she works 40 hours at $40k/year, but she wants him to do at least 50% of the housework, if not more. Fixed that for you. And yes, per my own experience, this is what is happening out there. And please don’t whine at me about double standards and “women make less” and whatever else. If that even exists (and I don’t think it does), it’s not relevant here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 06:47 PM |
| 0 | NY Post - Millennial men want 1950s housewives after they have kidsWhat a joke. “Oh he’s not ‘pulling his weight’, so off to divorce court we go!” Said cheerfully as if it’s the most normal thing in the world. No commitment, no desire to work through anything. Marriage is simply a temporary arrangement that you can throw in the trash at the drop of a hat the minute something happens that you don’t like. Anyone who gets married in modern America is an idiot | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 06:34 PM |
| 1 | NY Post - Millennial men want 1950s housewives after they have kidsMy experience these days is that modern American women want the guy to make the lion’s share of the money and also do the lion’s share of the housework. I have multiple male friends whose wives make only a small fraction of what they make money wise - yet expect the husband to work and come home and do the majority of the housework too. Many modern women don’t actually want “50/50”…it seems they basically want to do nothing, and life well off someone else’s income in the process | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 06:29 PM |
| 1 | NY Post - Millennial men want 1950s housewives after they have kidsThe funny thing is this - this “boredom” is what life was like for everyone for hundreds and hundreds of years. If you think being a modern housewife sucks, imagine what it was like when you had to cart water miles back and forth from the nearest well and go down to the river to wash clothing. Modern “SAHM” stuff is easy sauce compared to what all this used to be like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 06:26 PM |
| 1 | NY Post - Millennial men want 1950s housewives after they have kidsYou have choices. There are parts of the country where the cost of living isn’t ridiculous and where real estate isn’t disgustingly overpriced. There has been a mass migration of people out of the overpriced cities and Northern states to the south and the west (aside from CA and WA) over the last 20 years or so, and it accelerated during the pandemic. You’re not obligated to live in whatever ultra expensive, unaffordable place you’re living now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 05:48 PM |
| 1 | NY Post - Millennial men want 1950s housewives after they have kidsThe only “expectations” that matter are what each man/woman wants in his or her own life. I could care less about what society thinks I should or shouldn’t be doing with regards to my family’s lifestyle. I currently live in the South, and I’m just gonna say that traditional “gender roles” are still big here, and I don’t see any sign of that changing any time soon. There are still a lot of SAHMs and (gasp!) many of them don’t even have rich husbands. There are still plenty of women who grow up wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 05:39 PM |
| 1 | NY Post - Millennial men want 1950s housewives after they have kids“Failing your children to provide for them” is an excellent way to put it. The prevailing UMC (but also MC) idea that you’re going to dump your kids at a daycare regularly so that you can “provide a better life for them” is beyond ridiculous, and imho is a major part of why society is currently falling apart. So are current standards of consumption. In the 1970s, a huge fraction of society was happy to have one car and a “little pink house” etc. Fast forward to the 1990s/2000s, which started thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 05:01 PM |
| 1 | NY Post - Millennial men want 1950s housewives after they have kidsMy take: women are finally admitting that they never actually enjoyed rearing children very much | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 05:01 PM |
| 1 | NY Post - Millennial men want 1950s housewives after they have kids“Failing your children to provide for them” is an excellent way to put it. The prevailing UMC (but also MC) idea that you’re going to dump your kids at a daycare regularly so that you can “provide a better life for them” is beyond ridiculous, and imho is a major part of why society is currently falling apart. So are current standards of consumption. In the 1970s, a huge fraction of society was happy to have one car and a “little pink house” etc. Fast forward to the 1990s/2000s, which started thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 04:58 PM |
| 4 | Being "fwb zoned" is much better than the commonly stated equivalent of being friend-zonedLast I checked, a FWB arrangement is mutually consensual and the woman can leave at any time. I have a hard time understanding the amount of whining women put out about these things when they’re not tied into the situation by any means. As they said in Glengarry Glen Ross…”you don’t like it, leave”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/22 12:26 AM |
| 4 | Whats some legit benefit to a man for dating a woman that is 35+Lol yeah I was gonna say…if you want to “find yourself” in America, California is probably now the hardest place you could possibly do it. You’ll either be in a van down by the river or living with 6 roommates in a shitty apartment in Los Angeles | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/22 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Whats some legit benefit to a man for dating a woman that is 35+But let’s be honest here - while men do have a decrease in sperm count and motility at that point, and there is an increased rate of mutations, it is not nearly as much of an issue as it is with woman. Most men at age 50 are still perfectly capable of impregnating a woman, and the risk of birth defects etc is still comparatively low. Most women at age 50 aren’t going to be getting pregnant, period. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/22 07:06 PM |
| 1 | How might a recession or economic downturn impact the dating market?Yeah, that could be a reasonable strategy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/22 02:25 PM |
| 2 | How might a recession or economic downturn impact the dating market?If you’re a man, don’t rely on money for much if you’re not hot. Even in a recession, at best you’re gonna end up with a gold digger type who was never all that excited to be with you in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/22 03:45 AM |
| 2 | I think the Red Pill and FemaleDatingStrategy are codependent structures of particular types of people who end up dating each-other.There are also a lot of unattractive women who have awful personalities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/22 04:28 PM |
| 4 | If there is a very high chance that a woman will divorce you in marriage is there any reason for men to get married anymore?A 50% failure rate is astoundingly high. And somehow everyone thinks they’re going to be the exception to this. “Everyone else gets divorced, but I know my woman and we’re good.” And then you get served with divorce papers. I have a few friends where the plot line played out exactly that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/22 02:40 PM |
| 1 | If there is a very high chance that a woman will divorce you in marriage is there any reason for men to get married anymore?The problem with contracts in general (and, by extension, marriages) is that they’re only as good as the people that signed them. And most people in modern America aren’t good at being married. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/22 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Most of the men/boys on this sub need to start lifting and eating healthy. That alone will improve their health tremendously & in the long run help them attract women.The “bare minimum” expectations are not batshit crazy, not grossly obese, reasonably pleasant to spend time around, reasonably attractive, no excessive emotional baggage, and no criminal record. These are not exactly lofty expectations for a romantic partner. (And yet, on the dating apps especially, you will encounter a surprising number of women who fail on one or more of these criteria. Often more than one.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/22 05:04 PM |
| 1 | Most of the men/boys on this sub need to start lifting and eating healthy. That alone will improve their health tremendously & in the long run help them attract women.Sounds like you’re a real pleasure to be around. Good lord. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/22 05:03 PM |
| 2 | Most of the men/boys on this sub need to start lifting and eating healthy. That alone will improve their health tremendously & in the long run help them attract women.I’ve been in the gym for years and one thing I always noticed was that there were a number of guys in the weight room who had either goofy or downright weird personalities. Some had pretty good physiques, too, but they emitted a noticeably “weird” vibe. Bottom line is that personality still matters. You can look like the Rock or like Brad Pitt in Fight Club - but if you’re super weird and awkward in all the wrong ways, it’s not necessarily going to help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/22 04:49 PM |
| 1 | Most of the men/boys on this sub need to start lifting and eating healthy. That alone will improve their health tremendously & in the long run help them attract women.Especially if you do any of this at work lol. If a dude approaches a chick and politely asks her out, god bless his soul if she decides that was “unwanted” “sexual harassment”. Never mind that generations of men and women in the past met each other at work - including my own parents. “Don’t shit where you eat” isn’t just good advice in modern America, it’s a phrase that is to be followed at all costs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/22 04:03 PM |
| 2 | Why hate mgtow?I agree. I’ve noticed that especially among millennials and gen z etc, there is this new movement towards saying both that “sex work is really cool” and we need to support our (female) sex workers whilst also demonizing the men that participate in it. This, like so many millennial things, is pure cognitive dissonance. Either we demonize everyone involved or we don’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/22 01:55 PM |
| 8 | Why hate mgtow?There are more women going to college these days than men BUT those women overwhelmingly aren’t getting degrees in fields that lead to high paying jobs. Liberal arts majors and social workers aren’t going to be paying as much in taxes as engineers and doctors, and the overwhelming majority of the workers in fields like that are still men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/22 01:47 PM |
| 5 | Abortion Mega-ThreadThe procedures done to address an ectopic pregnancy are not generally considered “abortions” and are not the same as those done to abort a pregnancy that has implanted in the uterus. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/22 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Abortion Mega-ThreadA good argument can be made that abortion is “indirect eugenics”. Guess who gets the most abortions? Is it wealthy, highly educated people? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/22 09:36 PM |
| 1 | Men also look at women through an af/bb lensThe divorce rate is ridiculously high in the western world at the moment…and you know it. Even 20% is very high in my opinion | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/22 02:41 PM |
| 1 | Men also look at women through an af/bb lensThere are plenty of women who will marry someone they don’t like. Just look around you: | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/22 02:35 PM |
| 1 | Men also look at women through an af/bb lensRight, but then I hear a lot of women leaving marriages and LTRs because “the sex wasn’t good” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/22 02:12 PM |
| 3 | Men also look at women through an af/bb lensRight, because the entire measure of how good a man is is how much money he drops on your birthday… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/22 02:10 PM |
| 4 | Men also look at women through an af/bb lensYeah exactly…virtually any guy capable of getting ONS can get a relationship…not a significant issue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/22 02:00 PM |
| 1 | LDRs are a bad deal for everyone and should not be attempted. Breaking up is always preferrableFully agree. What’s the movie where they say LDRs are “like dating a ghost”? Yeah, it’s like that. I had a “married LDR” for a time (long story that related to professional training) and it was a complete waste of time that ended in divorce. If you have any alternative whatsoever, get out of an LDR. They are pointless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/22 01:42 PM |
| 14 | Most men who don't have "success" with women are a-social. Lack of social skills is a far bigger hindrance than the aspect of looks.These are all choices that you’re making, brother. Good luck to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/22 07:48 PM |
| 5 | Women here constantly insist that “most men are getting laid and in relationships,” that only a tiny minority of us on PPD and other outcast communities are struggling and don’t represent the majority. This is patently false and seemingly used to once again redirect criticism and blame to us.Ask the women in big cities who participate in the “hookup culture” and make it go around. There are a lot more of them out there than you might think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/22 06:26 PM |
| 1 | Is chivalry dead and did Woman kill it?Chivalry as we knew it in the past is absolutely dead in this modern era of dating. Politeness and etiquette absolutely still exist, but are something else entirely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/22 12:50 AM |
| 8 | Is chivalry dead and did Woman kill it?I almost spit out my coffee…well said! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/22 12:47 AM |
| 1 | What percentage of men even want that "High Value Male" lifestyle?Agree completely. There are a surprising number of women these days who don’t want to have a job (or whose job is way less intense than their husband’s) but yet they want the husband to be doing the lion’s share of the housework. That’s a no-go, sorry. Especially if I’m providing 75+% of the financial sustenance for the family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/22 11:18 PM |
| 1 | What can actually be done to improve the dating scene for everyoneI agree. Even among the UMC circles I run in, it seems to be much more permissible now for a woman to marry a hot but otherwise stupid or unaccomplished man than it was in the past. A tattoo covered loser with a marginal job is OK as long as he cleans up well and looks good in the Instagram pics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/22 05:32 PM |
| 2 | What can actually be done to improve the dating scene for everyoneAs I understand it, speed dating was basically the dating app that existed before dating apps. It attracted people that weren’t successful with dating otherwise and because of the limited time you spend with each person it’s similar to “swiping” in that regard. About the only advantage it has is that you can’t get catfished to the extent that you can on the apps because you actually see the other people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/22 05:05 PM |
| 1 | What happens when a married woman goes on tinder?I have no idea how you came up with this lol - but it makes zero sense and doesn’t reflect reality. Having dated on these apps before, I deliberately avoided women that declared themselves as married like the plague. Not stepping into that nightmare, namely where some angry jilted husband shows up with a shotgun to blow me away. And no, unattractive women aren’t suddenly magically more attractive just because they’re married. That’s not how male attraction works. At all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/22 02:06 AM |
| 1 | Women, how do you like being approached/hit onThe other key with cold approach is to expect a lot of times that it isn’t going to go anywhere - even if you do everything “right” - and that you need to be able to walk away from any particular conversation and move on. Also, even if the chick says “no” you should be able to exit gracefully and have the whole encounter still seem positive and relatively pleasant. If you’re having conversations ending in women looking really uncomfortable, telling you to get away etc you’re way, way off | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/22 05:03 PM |
| 1 | Are standards “too high” if they are met?The problem is that traits that in the past would have been considered the bare minimum to qualify as “relationship material” (i.e., not batshit crazy, decent personality, no criminal history, not grossly overweight, and so on) have suddenly become uncommon, mostly because so few people are actually putting effort into improving these things anymore. For most men, asking for these things in a female partner isn’t “high standards”, it’s the least you could/should expect. It’s the least you should… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/22 03:51 PM |
| 2 | Now that abortion rights are overturned, will you be more wary of casual sex?I don’t understand the obsession with male birth control…it’s not going to change anything at all if it ever actually comes out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/22 12:46 PM |
| 1 | Now that abortion rights are overturned, will you be more wary of casual sex?WRT abortions and casual sex…while abortion is theoretically “legal” in every state right now, in reality some states have already made it so difficult to get abortions that for all intents and purposes it’s already difficult if not impossible to get one there, especially if it’s a late term abortion. So on a regular basis women already travel across state lines for abortions. This ruling isn’t actually going to change the state of thing much, IMHO | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/22 12:39 PM |
| 5 | Men are constantly reminded that “women are not a hive mind” yet they consistently demonstrate the exact opposite when it comes to mate selection - they are heavily influenced by their peers and base their opinions of men on what their friends and other women thinkYeah I agree, Post Malone looks like a homeless dude hanging out by the dumpster drinking Thunderbird. Name one celebrity chick that most guys find hot who looks as godawful as Post Malone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/22 12:54 AM |
| 1 | Men are constantly reminded that “women are not a hive mind” yet they consistently demonstrate the exact opposite when it comes to mate selection - they are heavily influenced by their peers and base their opinions of men on what their friends and other women thinkHe’s drawing the comparison because she is atrociously unfunny, even to this day, and so is Pete Davidson | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/22 12:52 AM |
| 2 | Has anyone else observed that women tend to characterize men they find cute or wholesome as being... sexless?Meanwhile, the dude has also become something of a sex symbol and doesn’t want for female attention in his life…meaning that not all women are drawn to the same archetypes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/22 12:11 AM |
| 0 | Women believe they understand men more than they really do, and that is a problemHe is exactly right, honestly. The big thing with women is that their priorities are different and they seem to massively prioritize things that aren’t THAT important to most of us as men, or that objectively aren’t actually that important in the grand scheme of things. It’s not that I don’t think an anniversary is important-it’s that if I’m extremely busy with work, other family issues, etc I don’t feel an anniversary is necessarily THAT important compared to those things, and it could (and oft… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/22 10:59 PM |
| 2 | Women believe they understand men more than they really do, and that is a problemThe funny thing about women is that they seem to be easily “tricked” by men with more red flags than the annual Chinese communist party meeting. Most any situation I’ve heard of where a woman ended up “stuck” with a narcissist could have been easily avoided if she applied even a modicum of common sense (and also a willingness to GTFO when the badness starts coming out). Most of these “evil” narcissistic men are not hard to spot. At all. Why do women seem to have so much trouble discerning this? … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/22 08:08 PM |
| 1 | What does PPD think of the Olivia Wilde / Jason Sudeikis situation?At my last job, there was a chick working there who had a 9-year “engagement” where her and fiancé had been living in different cities for years, and it was obvious that one (or maybe both) of them were fucking other people at the same time. Not sure what the point of the “engagement” was, other than the fact that she did finally marry the guy after another year of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/22 04:21 PM |
| 7 | What does PPD think of the Olivia Wilde / Jason Sudeikis situation?There are definitely guys out there that look and act like Harry Styles yet slay…I knew a couple of them in college. Not every dude who is a sex symbol is of the Sly Stallone/Schwarzenegger archetype. Otherwise, how would we explain Prince, 80s Michael Jackson, David Bowie, Sting etc etc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/22 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How commonly do you think people (especially men) who are obsessed with dating and relationships are lacking fulfillment in other areas of life?While I think this is basically good advice, I also think it’s not the whole story - otherwise there would be no reason why broke bad boy losers (and loserettes) seem to be able to get together with ease and frequency. There are plenty of trashy, broke, sometimes even criminal (but sexy!) guys who have no trouble hooking up and even getting relationships. It’s not necessarily about having the perfect life if you want to date (although it helps improve who you attract) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/22 03:51 PM |
| 2 | How do you see you male friens/family members dating life?It’s not so much that your brothers are “stupid around women” as it is that they’re stupid, period. And many of them seem to lack common sense and any degree of self control as it applies to the rest of their lives outside of dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/22 01:28 AM |
| 2 | Men are not oppressed by women, they are oppressed by institutions.Right…and waiting for the next wave of disease or famine to kill your entire family, never mind roving bands of pirates or other invaders to land and slit everyone’s throats. Or having to go hunt for hours each day, lest you starve…walking miles and miles to carry a small amount of water back to your village…it goes on and on. Ancient life was largely horrible. People died in their 30s routinely. No, I don’t want to go back to that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/22 12:22 AM |
| 7 | Q4Bluepill: In your opinion why do you think more Women iniate divorce than men?I actually completely agree with this. Women tend to push their man away from everything and everyone else he was involved with, and then later circle around and say “why are you so boring - you don’t do anything or talk to anyone but me”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/22 07:42 PM |
| 1 | What do you think is average body count of a "top 20% man" is?There are two more or less verified examples of men who hit the 1-2k range on sexual partners: Wilt Chamberlain (who has a lot of friends etc who will testify that this is true) and Gene Simmons (who has a shoebox of Polaroids of him banging each of these women to prove it). Needless to say, both of these men had day jobs. That said, I agree with you that hitting these numbers if you have anything else to do in your life sounds exhausting at best. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/22 12:06 AM |
| 1 | Do more prudish/absitent societies have more "satisfying" sex lives?I have several friends who live in Saudi Arabia. Suffice it to say that the general sex life of most Saudis certainly isn’t “good” by any stretch of the imagination. Young guys and girls are thoroughly segregated throughout their youth unless they are married to each other…thus per my friends what ends up happening is a lot of almost homoerotic stuff between random guy friends, like guys holding each other’s hands and kissing etc. Don’t know much about the marriages, but it doesn’t sound good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/22 11:35 PM |
| 0 | Men have almost zero opportunity to meet women unless it is organic or through mutual friends, coworkers or in the short window of time they are in college if they go. You can be the hottest guy in the room, but rarely is it fruitful if you approach. This shows men have it far worse than women.Many guys actually look “fine” on a basic physical level. They might not dress well and/or they might be overweight, but they don’t have some sort of massive physical defect…I have seen a lot of incels claim that they’re insanely ugly or have some obscure physical defect with the distance between their upper lip and their nose or something and that’s why they’re getting no attention from women - but you look at their pics and they actually look OK. Elliot Rodger, for instance, actually looked OK… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/22 11:02 PM |
| 2 | Dating in 30s as a woman?I was also freshly divorced in my early 30s when I hit the dating apps a few years ago. I dated a fair number of women in their 30s. Interestingly enough, the need to find “non weird” partners went both ways on the apps. There were a LOT of quirky/weird/socially awkward women out there in that age bracket, as well as a lot of “damaged goods” chicks who had been abused or otherwise carried an entire truckload of baggage with them which would have made an LTR difficult. That said, you will probabl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/22 06:31 PM |
| 3 | Many women are perpetuating rape "culture" by being into aggressive menI think it happens a lot less than most women say it does, especially in the current environment where many men are deathly afraid of making a misstep and getting accused of sexual harassment etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/22 06:26 PM |
| 5 | Many women are perpetuating rape "culture" by being into aggressive menNo, but there is definitely a grey zone and/or cultural narrative where we hear that a guy should “really keep trying to pursue a girl if he wants her”. We are even told of marriages where the woman wasn’t into it for a while but the guy “was persistent” and eventually got the girl. This type of behavior seemingly was once celebrated, while now it is demonized and called sexual harassment and/or stalking. I don’t necessarily blame men for being confused about this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/22 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Why sugar mommas are pretty rare but sugar daddies are quite popular?My guess is that you will still find some hungry ass men out there who will be able to get it up for her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 03:51 AM |
| 3 | Braess's Paradox: Mathematical proof that having more options can be a detriment, even in a situation where everybody is perfectly rational and has perfect information.I hear the FOMO case. Lemme tell you a story… I grew up as a dude who had very little success with women…so much so that when I got to college and a woman (who was quite overweight, and not all that attractive, and also batshit crazy) threw herself at me I went along with it and married her. I had been so desperate with all this as a kid that I thought nothing else was ever going to come my way. Needless to say, we both were miserable, and the ultimate divorce (with two kids, one of which turned… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 03:44 AM |
| 2 | Braess's Paradox: Mathematical proof that having more options can be a detriment, even in a situation where everybody is perfectly rational and has perfect information.Where to begin here… 1) re: Russia vs Ukraine - I’m not sure what (potentially Russian) propaganda you’re reading, but for the most part Ukraine is a very traditional country with traditional values. Russia has turned itself into an authoritarian hellhole that I have no desire whatsoever to live in, regardless of whether anyone thinks it’s “red pill” or not. Tens if not hundreds of thousands of the best and brightest in Russia are leaving right now because Putin’s decisions have frankly left tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 03:20 AM |
| 2 | Braess's Paradox: Mathematical proof that having more options can be a detriment, even in a situation where everybody is perfectly rational and has perfect information.OLD is not going to be going anywhere at this point. Even in countries where some sort of massive internet screening/containment effort has been made (China, possibly now Russia, Iran, etc etc), many people have still figured out how to make social media and other internet driven communications methods work. Short of turning off the internet altogether to discourage communication (what Egypt and some other Middle Eastern countries have done at times) or locking the country down into some sort of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 02:02 AM |
| 2 | Braess's Paradox: Mathematical proof that having more options can be a detriment, even in a situation where everybody is perfectly rational and has perfect information.The bigger point: new technologies have been “breaking things” and making certain established ways of living untenable for literally thousands of years. Technology causes change in society, and as Marcus Aurelius once famously said…”the world is nothing but change, our lives are only perception”. Technological evolution isn’t going away and neither is OLD (in fact, there are likely to be much more disruptive new technologies that appear in our lifetime than OLD). You can either choose to bitch a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 01:46 AM |
| 4 | Men will do whatever is required in order to obtain sex, and perhaps not a great deal moreConfused a lil bit by this statement. You work at a club? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Men will do whatever is required in order to obtain sex, and perhaps not a great deal more“The best marriages of today are better than they’ve ever been”…and yet there is a 40-50% divorce rate. Sounds to me like a lot of people nowadays aren’t “more likely to achieve it”. I’m glad your own personal situation has worked out well, but the institution of marriage in the modern West is not exactly having its golden age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 01:15 AM |
| 5 | Men will do whatever is required in order to obtain sex, and perhaps not a great deal moreThe problem is that men, by and large, don’t see this dichotomy with the women they are involved with. I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that for the most part, most guys would be willing to (at least try to) have a relationship with most women they are willing to have sex with. On the other hand…per various observations (and yes, “red pill teachings”), it seems that women actually don’t share this worldview - there’s the guys they’d be willing to fuck casually and the guys they’d be wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 01:05 AM |
| 4 | Men will do whatever is required in order to obtain sex, and perhaps not a great deal moreThere are several erroneous assumptions here…the first is that any dating situation where the sex happens early is unlikely to evolve into a relationship, which is patently false (I can cite a number of “first date sex” couples in my friends group who are now in LTRs). The second is that a “quality man” is going to be plenty willing to wait around to have sex, which in the current dating environment is generally also false (a man of any quality will absolutely find women willing to have sex earl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 12:52 AM |
| 11 | Men will do whatever is required in order to obtain sex, and perhaps not a great deal moreNo. No man with any degree of options is going to wait around for a woman to that extent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 12:38 AM |
| 3 | What exactly forms a man into a "natural" ignoring uncontrollable genetics and circumstances?Really surprised to see so many people suggesting that things like sociability can’t be learned, or that one’s environment and upbringing don’t have a huge influence on these things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/22 08:17 PM |
| 6 | What exactly forms a man into a "natural" ignoring uncontrollable genetics and circumstances?Virtually anything is learnable, especially if someone is willing to overcome inhibitions etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/22 04:14 PM |
| 1 | Despite advances in birth control technology, the unintended pregnancy rate has remained steady in the US over the past 40 yearsIt’s not actually discrimination. It’s fear of lawsuits. There have been successful medical malpractice lawsuits against OB/GYNs for doing tubals on young women when those women later wanted to have another child. People seem to think physicians are very socially conservative - but most under the age of 50 or so are actually quite liberal for the most part. But what physicians do fear is lawsuits, and they will act quite “conservatively” to protect against them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 09:34 PM |
| 3 | Despite advances in birth control technology, the unintended pregnancy rate has remained steady in the US over the past 40 yearsI completely agree. I am a guy who has had that “big time dating phase” after I got divorced. Condoms were used every time throughout that phase. I already pay an obnoxious amount of child support after the first marriage - I’m sure as hell not going to be paying more unless I’m raising my own kids in the context of a marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 09:32 PM |
| 0 | Yes, many women overwhelmingly do not like it when "beta males" attempt to succeed, improve themselves, or learn to stand up for themselves .I agree. There’s no “genetic” difference there. The “genetic” issue would maybe come into play if one of the guys wasn’t able to build muscle for some reason despite working out hard, or whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 01:11 AM |
| 1 | Question: what percentage of people you have met online dont look like their photos in real life?I would say maybe 25% of the people I met looked different - but many actually did look similar to their pictures, compared to what I keep hearing from other folks. And there was one crazy situation where I was actually very pleasantly surprised that one Tinder match didn’t look like her pics - on the app she was slender and blonde, but in person she was maybe 20-30 lbs heavier. Not good, right? Except that she had a fabulous hourglass figure where all the weight had gone to exactly the right pl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/22 08:05 PM |
| 0 | [Q4W] How much emotionally vulnerable do you want your partner to be in front of you? At what point it becomes "emotional labour" or to you?Remembering things or managing the family isn’t “emotional labor”, it’s organizational skills and/or management skills or whatever. And what’s funny is that nobody wants to have to do these things anymore-not men, not women. Everyone wants to dump this stuff on someone else, to the extent that UMC and upper class families start outsourcing it to personal assistants and the like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/22 07:29 PM |
| 3 | What are the signs of attraction actually?I agree with this. “Don’t shit where you eat” is a maxim for a reason. I have had a relationship like this before and it caused nothing but problems for me down the line at that same job. If the dating situation sours rest assured that the work situation will become extremely awkward and you may become a pariah. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/22 06:51 PM |
| 1 | Is "stealth wealth" a bad idea for someone who wants love?With regards to De Botton’s quote…the Ferrari driver may actually just be someone who likes the way it drives. Not everyone who drives these types of cars is purchasing them because they want a luxury status symbol…sometimes a cigar is just a cigar | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/22 04:23 PM |
| 1 | [Debate] At least for men, "just wait, it will happen bro" is terrible advice.Dude get away from this chick… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/22 01:29 PM |
| 3 | [Debate] At least for men, "just wait, it will happen bro" is terrible advice.I personally think that way too much emphasis is placed on “cold approach” in the red pill “community”. It’s inefficient at best and in a lot of situations can be ineffective too. I think the hyper focus on cold approach happens because a lot of red pillers are lone wolf types who don’t have a well developed social life and can’t hope to find women through social circles etc. I think cold approach only works for a very narrow niche of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/22 01:16 PM |
| 5 | [Debate] At least for men, "just wait, it will happen bro" is terrible advice.A lot of guys need to work on developing those things for the long term because they lead to a better life overall. I’m sorry, but as someone who has been married twice you eventually realize “finding someone” doesn’t actually solve anything aside from the immediate sex/companionship issue. The notion of “happily ever after” is a lot of poppycock…life is a lot bigger than the “dating problem’. And on top of that, if you don’t know how to handle your life well you’re not going to have a good marr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/22 01:02 PM |
| 8 | [Debate] At least for men, "just wait, it will happen bro" is terrible advice.I think part of the issue is that there are plenty of weird, unusual, or even just unremarkable people out there who seem to get together every day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/22 12:56 PM |
| 3 | [Debate] At least for men, "just wait, it will happen bro" is terrible advice.Just go through it and keep going. Once things get to this point, there’s going to be a phase where things are unpleasant before they become pleasant. The alternative is to do nothing and remain the way you are, which I think you’ll agree is the least pleasant of all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/22 12:53 PM |
| 4 | For people who have partaken in threesomes/foursomes; would you date someone who has also had that experience in their past?I agree. And Reddit isn’t exactly the “normies” either. And I highly doubt that most who have claimed to have done threesomes around here actually have | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/22 02:51 AM |
| 2 | First datesThis is the best answer, and how I had the best success on dates in the past. Focus on getting out there and having a good time first and foremost, and on the sense that you’re going out and having an experience and living life to the fullest-and it just so happens that this girl is with you. If anything comes of it, great. If it doesn’t, great (and even if you seemingly do everything right, expect to have a fair portion of times where “it doesn’t”). If you come off as trying really hard to put … | /r/TheRedPill | 18/04/22 09:31 PM |
| 3 | Can anyone give examples of prenups being ignored by divorce courts?I think it’s absolutely ridiculous, and if you leave a relationship with someone who makes a lot of money you should be provided with an amount of money adequate to help raise a child but no more. Nobody should be getting $5-10k monthly child support payments. Not to mention that there are so many examples of the parent receiving the “child support” basically siphoning off the money and using it on themselves. Just giving the parent that chunk of money each month doesn’t mean that any of it is n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/22 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Can anyone give examples of prenups being ignored by divorce courts?The point the poster is getting at is this, I think: 1) common law marriage is fading in the US. There are only a small handful of states that still honor the idea and 2) in many of the remaining common law marriage states, the requirements to qualify as having a common law marriage are very high - usually requiring cohabitation in the same house, consistently for a long period of time. In most states that still honor the idea, this situation would not have qualified as a common law marriage. Sp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/22 04:52 PM |
| 2 | Can anyone give examples of prenups being ignored by divorce courts?Local judges are elected in some states and appointed in others. State Supreme Courts often are very involved in policing/regulating the activities of local court judges, and states with a political climate that leans left will appoint/elect large numbers of liberal judges both locally and to their state supreme courts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/22 04:48 PM |
| 9 | Can anyone give examples of prenups being ignored by divorce courts?In some states, a prenup often becomes essentially invalid after a certain length of time married…ie, it may be honored after a divorce 2 years into a marriage, but after 20 years in the marriage a judge is more likely to disregard it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/22 04:44 PM |
| 1 | What are some apparently contradicting claims espoused by the same people, that you want to point out?“Sluts/good girls” is a totally different concept from “af/bb”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/22 03:02 AM |
| 6 | What every man wants and what very few get….perhapsPlease don’t try to tell me that plenty of women out there don’t have “chronic issues requiring therapy” too. My goodness, the sheer volume of personality disordered and overall messed up women out there seems to dwarf that of men. This generation of women is really friggin messed up in my experience (not to say that the men are much better necessarily) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/22 03:51 AM |
| 20 | What every man wants and what very few get….perhapsWhat I find especially interesting is that any criticism of women for not wanting to tolerate appropriate emotional expression from men is immediately met with claims that men aren’t doing housework and other strawman nonsense that has nothing to do with the original argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/22 03:47 AM |
| 2 | Man finds out fiancé used to be more adventurous in bed. Refuses to explore sexually with him. How should he feel? Thoughts and discussion.How do you explain the women who keep enthusiastically having sex after having children? Not saying that there aren’t challenges towards sex after one has a child (especially when that child is young) but the sexual situation should not automatically go from great to zero just because someone had a child. That’s not normal, and there’s really no physiological reason why that should be happening in typical circumstances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/22 07:19 PM |
| 1 | Man finds out fiancé used to be more adventurous in bed. Refuses to explore sexually with him. How should he feel? Thoughts and discussion.Someone who can’t draw appropriate boundaries with their job, friends, and family is part of the problem they claim to be experiencing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/22 06:58 PM |
| 1 | Man finds out fiancé used to be more adventurous in bed. Refuses to explore sexually with him. How should he feel? Thoughts and discussion.Look, there are a lot of guys raised in this generation who can’t effectively set boundaries and won’t/don’t know how to ask for what they want (and won’t back out if they’re not getting it). This is the downstream consequence of raising an entire generation of emasculated men - you get men that can’t/won’t/don’t properly advocate for themselves and their own wishes/needs, because they’ve been made to feel that they can’t or shouldn’t. And then you get lots and lots of situations like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/22 06:23 PM |
| 3 | Man finds out fiancé used to be more adventurous in bed. Refuses to explore sexually with him. How should he feel? Thoughts and discussion.Sounds to me like the kind of guy who is happy taking whatever he can get and doesn’t think he can ask for more (and is also afraid to leave to go find someone else that may be more compatible). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/22 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Man finds out fiancé used to be more adventurous in bed. Refuses to explore sexually with him. How should he feel? Thoughts and discussion.Dan Savage - the famous sex columnist - once put it best: “If sex isn't an important part of your marriage, you can't beef if your wife or husband does this unimportant thing with somebody else every once in a while, if you have no interest in it.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/22 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Man finds out fiancé used to be more adventurous in bed. Refuses to explore sexually with him. How should he feel? Thoughts and discussion.The bigger question to me is this - why is she keeping videos of her doing sex acts with other partners? I hear of more than a few of these cases around - sounds like the woman in question is keeping mementos of the past. I know women absolutely hate when men keep pics/videos of past exes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/22 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Man finds out fiancé used to be more adventurous in bed. Refuses to explore sexually with him. How should he feel? Thoughts and discussion.Yeah agree full stop. “People shouldn’t be exploring sex acts”? Ok, so I guess in your mindset all sex should be plain vanilla missionary with the lights off? Seriously, wtf. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/22 05:16 PM |
| 1 | Man finds out fiancé used to be more adventurous in bed. Refuses to explore sexually with him. How should he feel? Thoughts and discussion.A lot of people get married for a wide variety of reasons outside of “compatibility”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/22 03:09 PM |
| 3 | Man finds out fiancé used to be more adventurous in bed. Refuses to explore sexually with him. How should he feel? Thoughts and discussion.That’s fine. But then there may be guys who want something else/more sexually, and they also have a right to find that. In my experience, some women abandon relationships at the drop of a hat for the most spurious of reasons…thus, it’s not at all unreasonable for a guy to jump out over sexual incompatibility. (And I’ve heard plenty of women dive out of relationships because “the sex wasn’t good”…this is exactly the same thing.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/22 03:05 PM |
| -1 | Man finds out fiancé used to be more adventurous in bed. Refuses to explore sexually with him. How should he feel? Thoughts and discussion.It still is a compatibility issue. If she won’t do the things with you that you want her to do, get out and move on. It’s very simple and it doesn’t require all sorts of other emotional gyrations. There are plenty of women out there, and chances are you will find one who is at least as enthusiastic about sex as you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/22 03:03 PM |
| 1 | Man finds out fiancé used to be more adventurous in bed. Refuses to explore sexually with him. How should he feel? Thoughts and discussion.Bottom line is that there is such a thing as sexual compatibility, and if you want certain kinds of sexual experiences and your partner doesn’t, it’s time to move on. What I see happening in a lot of these cases is a guy making huge compromises on his own sexual desires/needs because the woman doesn’t want to do XYZ, and he convinces himself that’s ok…when it really isn’t. What she did or didn’t do in the past is less of an issue - point is that she won’t do XYZ with you right now, and if that i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/22 02:34 PM |
| 4 | Man finds out fiancé used to be more adventurous in bed. Refuses to explore sexually with him. How should he feel? Thoughts and discussion.Really depends. There are plenty of middle aged women (and men, for that matter) who aren’t hot by any stretch of the imagination. And I’m someone who does like older women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/22 02:30 PM |
| 5 | Women are the gatekeepers of sex. Men are the gatekeepers of commitment.Modern women don’t even really want the “experience” of being a wife, as many of them seem to hate everything about the job after they get it. They want all the rights and perks associated with the “wife” title with none of the responsibilities. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/04/22 12:03 AM |
| 1 | Can anyone solve this or explain this for me?Would happily go balls deep in LB. She’s solidly attractive, although she gives off big time bitch vibes and otherwise seems crazy. Would be a prime example of a “fuck once and walk” type of chick. MTG? Yuck. No. | /r/TheRedPill | 11/04/22 11:44 PM |
| 3 | The influence of education on female income.There are certainly some trade jobs that can be good, but I am a physical therapist and I can confirm that a lot of tradesman have a lot of injuries, arthritis and musculoskeletal problems. | /r/TheRedPill | 11/04/22 09:02 PM |
| 10 | The influence of education on female income.Why not train in physical therapy, or become a physician and do sports medicine etc? | /r/TheRedPill | 11/04/22 07:42 PM |
| 4 | The influence of education on female income.You can make some very good money underwater welding etc, but it’s a dangerous and unpleasant job | /r/TheRedPill | 11/04/22 07:40 PM |
| 4 | The deteriorating relationships between men and women discussed in this sub are indicators of a society breaking down and about to eat itselfDivorce rates are stabilizing at high levels. Do you seriously think that a stable nationwide >40% divorce rate is a good thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/22 02:40 PM |
| 1 | The deteriorating relationships between men and women discussed in this sub are indicators of a society breaking down and about to eat itselfThe points raised here are not controversial. There is ample hard evidence out there to support them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/22 02:34 PM |
| 0 | The deteriorating relationships between men and women discussed in this sub are indicators of a society breaking down and about to eat itselfIf we don’t have more kids in America, rest assured many other cultures in the world will step up to take up the slack. I have never ever been able to understand this argument. Our declining birth rate is paralleled only by Europe - but elsewhere in the world, the birth rates are exploding for the most part. All that reducing our own birth rate does is reduce our future presence in the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/22 02:32 PM |
| 9 | The deteriorating relationships between men and women discussed in this sub are indicators of a society breaking down and about to eat itselfAnd why is the default assumption that “relationships” have to suck, or consist of people exploiting one another? How did we ever get to that point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/22 02:25 PM |
| 1 | The silencing of TRP on Reddit and social media as a whole proves how enormously biased our culture is against males nowGo read the front page posts on FDS right now and try to tell me with a straight face that all that nonsense belongs on Reddit. If you can, you’re probably not a great person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/22 12:49 AM |
| 1 | The silencing of TRP on Reddit and social media as a whole proves how enormously biased our culture is against males nowReally surprised to see so many around here arguing that FDS is OK. A quick spin through the FDS front page reveals it to be a lot of nasty, warped, personality disordered nonsense that is frankly disquieting to read - much like the old incel subs were. (A real gem: some post about how men are “domestically underfunctioning” because of superhero movies, or something.) Standards are standards, and they need to apply to everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/22 12:45 AM |
| 7 | women are attracted to both looks and personality.The kind of guy who has allegedly done all this “improvement” and is still a virgin usually has pronounced, very noticeable personality or social skills issues. I have never encountered a well dressed, reasonably good looking, well adjusted guy who was one of these never ending virgins we hear so much about. Usually, if I’ve ever met someone like this, it is abundantly obvious within 30 seconds or so why they are still a Virgin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/22 06:42 PM |
| 11 | Do you support a publicly accessible domestic violence offender registry, similar to the sex offender registry?Absolutely not. Such a registry would quickly become rife with false accusations and nonsense, and would serve no purpose other than to be abused by angry ex’s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/22 06:35 PM |
| 6 | We would save a lot of heartache and mental distress for men if we were simply honest about women to them when they were young boysIn divorce court, you better believe women are always testifying against men and are often making bogus alligations against them also. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/22 06:19 PM |
| 21 | Personality becomes more important as you age and it's not because of lack of optionsNietzsche once famously observed that the most important trait to look for in a marriage partner was the ability to have good conversation - because, as he put it, “everything else in marriage is transitory”. And I think this is true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/22 11:05 PM |
| 4 | Regarding the post about women being “paranoid” about assault, what are things that women do in this regard that upset you?Because it’s unhealthy and ridiculous to be paranoid and intensely suspicious of 50% of the population, the overwhelming majority of which are completely harmless. This paranoia is actually destroying the fiber of our society, whether everyone yet realizes it or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/22 05:50 PM |
| 1 | I think it's high time the men in this subreddit learn to accept reality.It literally sounds like that kid from The Catcher in the Rye, updated for the 21st century | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/22 09:49 PM |
| 2 | The threat of violence and sexual assault, while real, is dramatically overblown and overused by women as an excuse for misandrist behavior and to generalize the entire male population, most of which is harmless to themThere is a big difference between being “feminine” and being a doormat for abuse. Plenty of women avoid choosing abusive partners to start, or if they end up with someone who shows their true colors later, they GTFO. There are women out there - a fairly large proportion, in fact - who seem to consistently avoid these types of partners. What does that say about the women who don’t/can’t? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/22 07:02 PM |
| 0 | If you are a man who doesn’t have long term goals or passionate about something, you can’t expect women to be attracted to you.Read what she said again. Being good looking doesn’t mean that good people will stick around. And I absolutely agree with that. I have encountered a fair number of good looking men/women who are attached to partners who are at best useless/not bright and at worst manipulative and awful people. What you’re taking about is a different issue altogether. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 05:31 PM |
| 0 | If you are a man who doesn’t have long term goals or passionate about something, you can’t expect women to be attracted to you.Because 99.9% of all men who play video games aren’t making a killing (or even a career) doing so. For the overwhelming majority of men out there who are doing it, it’s a total waste of time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 05:12 PM |
| 3 | Simps and online sex work have no effect on dating. So why care?Wait, you’re actively dating chicks that are also tangled up in these stupid “sugar baby” arrangements? Seriously? That’s a stone cold dealbreaker for me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/22 12:01 AM |
| 1 | Value is determined by the marketIt kind of is. I think it was Lewis Black (or maybe George Carlin?) who once said that you know you’re famous and powerful if you can fuck someone and make them famous in turn (he was referring to Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky, but there are certainly other examples out there) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 03:49 PM |
| 6 | Value is determined by the marketLoool now we have a word problem. Better bust out the quadratic equation for this one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 03:46 PM |
| 7 | Value is determined by the marketFully agree. Women absolutely seek “trophy men” these days as a marker of their own prestige, and it seems like there is less emphasis placed on success and more placed on physical attractiveness now. In upper middle class circles, it seems to now be much more ok for a woman to select a “hot” but otherwise stupid or unsuccessful man than it used to be | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Value is determined by the marketI wouldn’t be overly sympathetic to a woman who chose a man who behaves like that. She selected this person initially, and now she continues to choose to be with someone who acts like a jackass…it reflects even more poorly on her than it does on the guy imo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 03:42 PM |
| 1 | Men’s worship of women is a MAJOR problem in dating, and it goes well beyond social media likes and can honestly be seen in every facet of human interactionYeah I’ve never been able to understand that either. Working for “the man” sucks ass probably 90% of the time. Not sure why women felt it was worth fighting tooth and nail over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/22 11:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The biggest misandrists I see online are menThe askmen Reddit sub is a truly strange place that seems to have come straight from the twilight zone. The views generally expressed there in no way square with my own views and experiences as a man, or with those of my own peers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/22 06:19 PM |
| 9 | Q4Men: Do you have any positive platonic female friendships? Does it affect how you view women? What do you learn from your female friends? What do you like about those friendships vs male friendships?That’s been my general experience also. I find the “smarter”, “better” women are just more subtle about this. I’ve had a few female friendships that started off ok, they seemed like decent people (and they weren’t the only people I was hanging out with - sometimes even when I was in a relationship) and then at some point all of a sudden they start asking for favors and the relationship becomes obviously transactional. That’s when I nope out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/22 03:34 PM |
| 1 | Being alone is better than being in a relstionship we are not excited to be inThis may be your personal experience, but where I come from (UMC community largely consisting of professionals) the vast majority of people in their 30s have already married and are doing the house/kids thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/22 08:47 PM |
| 5 | Being alone is better than being in a relstionship we are not excited to be inThe point here is that relatively few woman share your opinion. Most women in America are still aggressively, eagerly, pursuing relationships with men. I’m sorry lol hat you had a bad relationship experience recently, but please don’t project your experience (which was at least in part a consequence of your own choices, mind you) on the rest of humanity. Also, my personal experience has been that women who come from generations of other women who claim to have been abused and had their lives rui… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/22 08:43 PM |
| 1 | How do average people succeed in dating if they don't have looks nor wealth?This is the real “Handmaid’s Tale” lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/22 06:35 PM |
| 4 | How do average people succeed in dating if they don't have looks nor wealth?The thing about most “incels” etc that I’ve encountered is that most of them aren’t even really unattractive. Some, in fact, are pretty decent in the physical looks department. But a lot of them have mental blocks, depressed/defeatist mindsets, personality issues, severe shyness, antisocial behavior, or other issues that keep them from succeeding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/22 06:34 PM |
| 3 | How do average people succeed in dating if they don't have looks nor wealth?I really don’t understand some of the fears or assumptions that men are “completely undateable” if they’re not hot or wealthy. In my past line of work, I came into contact with folks from all walks of life and let me tell ya…there are plenty of guys out there who are neither wealthy or “model hot” (including some that are flat broke and also not exactly attractive) that are dating and/or married. Yes, if you want to succeed as a dude in the “Competitive Big City Middle/Upper Middle Class Dating … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/22 06:19 PM |
| 2 | I think Men hyperbolize their "toughness"So one thing worth pointing out is that women - or hell, anyone - would prefer to associate with people who project positive emotions and good vibes rather than people who vomit out negativity, misery, confusion, whatever. In my experience, women can certainly be open to (and enthusiastic about) a guy “opening up” to positive feelings, or even past struggles reframed as “this was tough but I learned a lot, and this is how I moved forward, and how it made me the person I am today” etc. But virtua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/22 03:37 PM |
| 5 | Do you care about a guy's "number" if so what ranges are do you prefer?Wait, almost 25% of women have had an abortion? Holy cow, that was a lot higher than I thought it would be. It kinda speaks against the feminist message in recent years that abortion is an uncommon thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/22 01:21 AM |
| 5 | Women believing that men “command respect” proves that the average man’s experiences to them are invisibleI don’t find it to be “altruistic” or “selfish” either. People communicate with each other in human society, and people are fundamentally allowed to do this. It’s not automatically toxic to talk to other humans. Obviously, if the man is boorish, abusive, persistent to the point of true “harassment”, whatever, then it’s a different story. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/22 08:19 PM |
| 6 | Women believing that men “command respect” proves that the average man’s experiences to them are invisibleBeing approached by a man is not the end of the world. I’m still not sure how we have gotten to the point in this society where having a member of the opposite sex chat you up is seen as some sort of obscenely bad behavior. It’s beyond absurd. If you don’t like what you’re hearing, say no politely and move on. It’s not a catastrophe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/22 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Have any of you Been ghosted in the context of a real relationship?Back when I was still in the “dating phase” after my divorce, I used the dating apps heavily and probably met 3 new women weekly. A significant fraction of these initial dates - maybe 1/4 or more - ended in ghosting (usually what I called “mutual ghosting” where neither of us attempted to contact the other afterwards). There was one - literally just one - chick who wrote out a thoughtful text where she said I seemed like a decent person and everything, but she didn’t think it would work out as w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/22 10:32 PM |
| 3 | Callousness and crueltyAre you kidding me? I was emotionally and financially abused by my first wife, and later it was shown that one of our two kids wasn’t actually mine. I was never a “pervert” of any sort - in fact, I was a stand up guy going to professional school and eventually earning good money while she was whoring around with guys hat worked at gas stations. You do understand that some women indeed instigate divorces with bad behavior, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Would it still bother you if your partner was willing to do sexual acts with exes, but wouldn't with you - but the sexual acts are ones you don't want at all?This is a good example, but honestly your friend is stupid and a bit weird to be holding onto a random set of engagement rings hoping to offload them onto his own friends for a price even jewelry houses wouldn’t pay for them. I might keep an eye on a guy like that to make sure he isn’t going to be doing something crazy in the future | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 04:27 AM |
| 1 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotYes, but plenty of “smart, educated and classy” women also work highly stressful jobs with long exhausting hours that have a dreadful effect on their appearances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 07:20 PM |
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