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I generally don't bother
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/24 10:10 PM
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It's funny for a while I was hearing about all sorts of dudes at Sweat Lodges - I think it worked as an undeclared male space because (1) women didn't want to sweat and (2) didn't want to be near men in partial undress. But also most dudes don't want to either. Folks have to get creative. In general, yes any male only space will be called sexist or incel, but spaces that address the best aspects of men (without the negative ones) would still tend to exclude woman wanting to be there, without any…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/24 10:24 PM
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To their point (which I do think is BS) they are describing the way BLM was consistently refuted. All lives matter etc. Neither of those sides of the argument are valid without looking at context. Male victims are ignored and this is what women used to say about themselves - there is no contradiction other than people who pretend they care about everyone and demonstrate it by erasing whole classes of people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/24 03:19 PM
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This is why men should choose the bear - and when women whine about incels, tell them women choose the bear.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 09:24 PM
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99% of statistics are made up
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/24 01:15 PM
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You're supposed to want to put your tongue all the way up someone's bunghole until it comes out their nose Making yummy slurpy noises during also gets you points So you're also required to love the tuna palace. As well as the sausage factory and whatever else ... You do you - try not to worry about anything else except making the one(s) ya love happy
/r/MensRights04/02/24 12:40 PM
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Yes, but it would be good if it's not just a gender who doesn't understand. Just imagine if it wss suicide in women and was investigated only by men. It would be an earth shattering crisis but this difference is illustrative of the peoblem
/r/MensRights03/02/24 04:26 AM
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Until all healthy people within a certain age range are as likely to be drafted as any other than if unconstitutional under equal protection
/r/MensRights02/02/24 08:36 PM
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Notice here the expert on male suicide is a woman. When this issue came to my attention 15 years ago as a public health researcher I tried to find better information and it was all women talking about what men need and that kind of introduced an obvious quote from a movie I do not want to repeat. But when I tried to figure out what research is being done for men the way it is being done for women especially research done by men for men which women would demand be by women for women or else call …
/r/MensRights02/02/24 05:05 PM
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Buddy of mine who loves the show said George lied about his age before she had sex with him. Idk
/r/MensRights02/02/24 04:20 AM
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We don't see the point in working anymore - we have had our kids taken away for no reason, bankrupt supporting family only to be hated - why bother? Younger men saw this happening to their fathers etc. so decided not to bother with taking on responsibility.
/r/MensRights02/02/24 04:03 AM
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I used to teach in public school. Was shocked how many teen guys said they are never getting married or having kids because they saw what happened to their dads, uncles, friends, etc. when they got divorced - never got custody of their kids, always treated like a villain no matter what they did.
/r/MensRights02/02/24 02:45 AM
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This was completely the case when I was in high school - other girls would say it. If a guy said it he'd usually get punched by some guy, friend, brother, random dude in class. Guys generally didn't do it.
/r/MensRights29/01/24 11:16 PM
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Naming becomes illustrative here - why don't they call it bigotry or gender based discrimination - why feminism?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/24 06:48 PM
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We should definitely put in a petition to the United States Department of Grammar (USDOG) immediately!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/24 12:15 AM
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I'm sure that's what I meant to write for some reason I didn't
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/24 08:30 PM
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In my law degree family law was taught by a child support prosecutor in our state capital he used to always try to keep it light and laugh saying that all of this is why he never got married or had children. He told one story where he was standing in front of a judge prosecuting a man who was behind on child support The man had hidden a razor blade underneath his watch and slit his throat in front of the female judge he said she didn't even miss a beat merely looked over the bench as the guy was…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/24 06:40 PM
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Repost of my rambling post on another thread. Trying to wake up - stressed over a law paper. I'm struggling this week to finish my final paper for my law school degree. Largest, 2nd oldest oldest law school in my state - graduating presidents, US senators etc. This degree is where the OP issue really hit home. After the first year it seemed pointless to continue. Women were lauded, after that first year all male staff mysteriously left - now it's been a revolving door of minority women and in th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/24 06:31 PM
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I'm struggling this week to finish my final paper for my law school degree. 2nd largest oldest law program in my state - graduating presidents, US senators etc. This degree is where the OP issue really hit home. After the first year it seemed pointless to continue. Women were lauded, after that first year all male staff mysteriously left - now it's been a revolving door of minority women and in the time I've been there we have dropped 23 spots in US News. The last good dean was first year, a mal…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/24 06:21 PM
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I think it's a cultural thing. For example, I was living in Bloomington Indiana when Bobby Knight got fired. As one event leading to his termination, one of his players called out "Hey Knight!" - he reportedly calmly took his elbow and said "That's Coach Knight" - he always held such respect was critical for a successful coach. That story is debated but not much.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 08:28 PM
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Lot of folks I know use your last name as a nickname so I can see the need for an honorific when you're a teacher etc. but better as gender neutral like Professor Smith or Coach Smith instead of Mr or Ms for teachers. Since this is debated hotly in schools it's too bad something like Teacher Smith can't be used - like Sensei in Chinese which simply means someone older or more respected. India also has words like this deriving from Hindi etc and sometimes Islamic languages.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 07:57 PM
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I don't think they're going to phase out either but as I said in another reply professional and academic writing tends to be the first to try to set a trend and is sometimes successful as exemplar of ideals. The reason I find the question interesting is because it tends to strip away the false justifications that right wing or bigoted people tend to use. And also it brings up issues such as the fact that referring to a woman as Mrs Miss or Ms tends not to honor such women but to disrespect them …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 07:33 PM
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Absolutely I completely agree. This is not at all reality It's more a question of whether ideologically it makes sense to people to move in this direction which is an ideal that could never be fully realized but could be explored at least in certain circles. For example about 10 years ago professional writing such as legal academic etc began to use the gender-neutral pronoun she and her instead of he him which was very confusing to everyone because you would begin to backtrack to see if you miss…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 07:31 PM
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I'm not sure I know what you mean but think I agree. I think showing respect can be done the way for example some Asian countries do always referring to a teacher as teacher I'm not sure if that's gender neutral or not in those languages. There could be a generic sort of sir or ma'am or Mr or Ms that could show respect without specifying gender. I agree gender is something people will always notice but it doesn't have to be addressed in pronouns or title. In fact the fact that it is so clear to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 07:11 PM
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It isn't really matter to me I just think the whole situation is absurd and when you suggest to these bigoted right-wing people that let's just get rid of all gender pronouns they begin to make even more absurd arguments showing that it's really all about bigotry not about whatever false justification they use. What about it seems not left-wing to you? Why should a modern society care about gender pronouns? Isn't it more equal just to refer to everyone with a gender neutral address? I personally…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 07:07 PM
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Seems a good solution to me, especially in English, where we don't typically use gendered words.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 03:18 PM
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I always thought this was largely true and I still think it is however several years ago I left my wife and children or rather she left me and I explored the fact that I was always bisexual and am now in a long-term commitment relationship with a man. We go everywhere together and look about as scary as a couple of dudes who are middle-aged can look. People respond very well to us exceedingly so in fact. Even though we are in places where I wouldn't expect it. I think it has to do with feeling c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 05:47 AM
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BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAASA I got a "concerned Redditor" turned you in for reddit censorship message before any replies Congrats men We won't survive
/r/MensRights03/01/23 10:20 AM
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Meanwhile in the US private youth prisons profit judges who get kickbacks for sending elementary school boys to prison with grown men. Gotta love American Capitalism. A few years ago my state (Indiana) had the youngest male in prison for life - I believe he was 12. https://www.npr.org/2022/08/18/1118108084/michael-conahan-mark-ciavarella-kids-for-cash
/r/MensRights31/12/22 07:47 AM
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But these private prisons do disproportionately more damage. I'd find the articles but doubt anyone cares. A few years ago there was a youth prison shut down. The warden was also the mayor of this tiny (I think Missouri town) where the entire towns economy was the prison - even tho it was a youth prison for kids like 12-18, they didn't move them to adult prison when they aged out and when closed down there were 12 years olds in prison with guys in their 30s, supposedly rape and severe bearings f…
/r/MensRights31/12/22 07:44 AM
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It's in the Washington Post - but heck I literally have been in the Washington Post and I didn't deserve it either (but my dog did, who was also photographed - he's a good dog)
/r/MensRights31/12/22 07:39 AM
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Of course they do - are you trying to get feminists to agree with you? Pointing out their hypocrisy is for everyone else not them.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 02:21 PM
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If someone said a woman has small tits energy - do you think anyone would make the distinction you just did?
/r/MensRights29/12/22 02:18 PM
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I just saw that south park for the first time this week! Was so funny
/r/MensRights29/12/22 02:17 PM
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Very true. I was married to a woman for 20 years - now me and my husband don't hardly buy anything - there is not this constant pressure to keep up with the Jones' or compete via status. Me and my husband are dirtbags (clothes from goodwill because why not) but we don't create any debt or drama - if we don't have the money, we simply don't buy it - and even when we do have the money we usually hang onto it and invest in repairs on our house or car (singular) (paid off). Jesus I can't even explai…
/r/MensRights29/12/22 02:16 PM
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Every time I see this kind of garbage I say something like "This sort of anti male hate speech is unworthy of an important discussion like Climate Change. The Environment is not a gendered issue." No point trying to reason with these people - sometimes using their own tactics against them works. But they are hypocrites in the extreme so usually not short term - but can work long term.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 02:10 PM
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These are the same women who would say that real men cry, have emotions and then use slurs to debase men in the same way they say men debase them. Their hypocrisy is starting to show to the mainstream. No worries.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 05:09 AM
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One thing you learn after being on this planet as absurdly long as I have - everyone (male or female) is insecure - it's the most insecure people who act the most confident and also fiercely attack as if they are - they do this to protect this insecurity. Confident / healthy people will admit their faults and doubts plainly and listen calmly to others arguments - these people are truly rare and becoming more rare. But even in the midst of this there are people relearning the art of confidence an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/22 04:48 AM
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I'd like to read all of this but trying to study for next semester, older student who barely cares trying to graduate. But I'm running into more and more people (even women) who never would have seen the hypocrisy. So I expect no one will ever see the double standard - and with that expectation I'm often happily surprised. Also don't waste breath on ignorant people - only people who have the ability to think and honestly evaluate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/22 04:45 AM
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I'm a perfectionist too so I don't even start anything - I get hung up on stupid things - first it was marriage and kids - now it is this 8 year law degree I intended to get done in 3. Ugh. I have had to subscribe to the idea that anything worth doing must simply be done - I will beat myself up infinitely. I am determined to write and finish and attempt to publish at least one novel or non-fiction and at least one short story or article before I die. With that I think I may have the courage to w…
/r/MensRights16/12/22 05:44 PM
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Yeah yeah and The Burning Bed was a famous movie / book / true story (movie that me and many boys were shown by our single mothers) about a woman who deliberately and premeditatedly got her husband passed-out drunk, poured gasoline all over him sleeping in bed and then set him on fire while her kids watched in horror. She was found NOT GUILTY https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Burning_Bed https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francine_Hughes Her mother later said "you did what was best for your husba…
/r/MensRights08/12/22 04:05 AM
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And if she doesn't she will fantasize about it - and can't be upset when he retreats to porn and video games rather than feel attracted to her. But she will say "he is so unambitious - I just can't respect him and am not attracted" not admitting she made him this way
/r/MensRights08/12/22 12:59 AM
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My point just is that no man feels virile staying at home while his wife brings home the bacon (and gets the salami away from her husband) and no woman wants a wimp So if anything society is changing such that both should work - not make men into women
/r/MensRights08/12/22 12:42 AM
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Yeah I'd say it's the feminizing steamroller for sure - even the way they make him look in the pic - not really a good likeness
/r/MensRights08/12/22 12:10 AM
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Yeah I always say "yeah she says she wants a sensitive man and to the second you become what she says she wants, she will lose respect for you and fuck some dude who is the opposite." I mean men often do that too - as soon as the woman becomes mom he often doesn't want her anymore - but that doesn't mean men should make the same mistake
/r/MensRights08/12/22 12:03 AM
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It's funny - you'd like it
/r/MensRights07/12/22 08:47 PM
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The internet is an amplification of how humans can be such assholes but also there are gems - like meeting friendly folks like yourself. I had the makings of a great writer and now at 48 I know there is little chance I'll be good. I am trying for a Fulbright Scholarship but my friend, a professor, had to tell me my writing isn't good enough at this point - so I'm putting it off until I graduate. But there is always hope - I'm open to any kind of writing so surely I'll find something What writing…
/r/MensRights07/12/22 07:02 PM
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It's funny - I just finished a class in family law. The professor is a prosecutor of a major city in the Child Support Enforcement office - he is a libertarian so is glad to talk about injustices in the system. He mentions things like all the revenue the child support enforcement acts bring in and how states count every case of interstate collection twice, once for the state that collects and once for the state that receives. Making "enforcement" look successful when it really isn't helping anyo…
/r/MensRights07/12/22 06:57 PM
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I KNOW you're not exaggerating
/r/MensRights06/12/22 05:49 AM
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Oh yeah you are completely right. After my divorce I waited a few years before even thinking about dating. I kept working to restore my marriage since (long story) my kids were in trouble. Finally got on various apps Christian Mingle, Plenty o Fish, Tinder and maybe more The women were almost all completely full of shit Their profile would say "Christian woman - don't even think about sex - I'm a woman of substance" bla bla bla I'd respond more to the ads where a woman sounded intelligent, self …
/r/MensRights05/12/22 08:37 AM
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I wish I could. Unfortunately, I think many such groups are like the cult my ex wife has my kids trapped in. They tend to be some very artificial idea of what men are and the more "manly" they try to be, the more "unmanly" they become. I have found support just by being myself (and sometimes by myself) and it has led me to some pretty strange places and unlikely friends. Some examples: Local redneck bar - started going Thursday nights after gruelling work weeks working two jobs and going to law …
/r/MensRights05/12/22 08:28 AM
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There are tons more in every area of law and life. Laughing is better than crying.
/r/MensRights05/12/22 08:09 AM
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Oh yeah but I've had some fun when a woman is yelling at a man to be the one person who will walk up and say "sir, are you okay?"
/r/MensRights05/12/22 06:30 AM
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Thanks - well and I'll bet you have a ton more talent than you think. Oddly I was more surprised when I taught high school than college. One of my students (long tragic story here) was from a very poor family (here in the US) with tons of abuse that they all suffered. Statistically he should have been dead at 20. I noticed he didn't think much of school or himself. With a tiny bit of encouragement he took off - literally. He joined the Air Force after funding his interest in my class and became …
/r/MensRights05/12/22 06:28 AM
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Keep believing. I get so down sometimes but I still say to myself "while there is still air in my lungs I'll keep fighting" Worst case scenario we can all speak up or write or think - all have hope in them I hope to write some books someday - I finish grad school in a year and hopefully then I can start living again
/r/MensRights05/12/22 06:14 AM
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I used to try to teach my kids from the words of great men (aka also women) - one quote they often heard me repeat was MLK saying "in the end we will not remember the words of our enemies but the silence of our friends" Powerful words. Words can change the world - and often from the most insignificant seeming places etc.
/r/MensRights05/12/22 05:57 AM
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We should do this for all people
/r/MensRights05/12/22 05:48 AM
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You're doing it! Speaking and connecting. That stuff encourages the hell out of me and surely countless others. Every time I tend to get depressed some former student of mine or millennial I meet online - often female - speaks about men's rights and I'm shocked and encouraged that maybe true gender equality is happening
/r/MensRights05/12/22 05:44 AM
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Exactly - it would have gone down merely as gun violence perpetrated by men at public buildings - statistic - made to sound like male domestic terrorism. If we men want our voice to be heard we must speak and use our narrative - not let others take it over - and that is difficult - and I belive more effective than some grand Greco-Roman mythological death which no one would see as noble. Thank you for your kind words
/r/MensRights05/12/22 05:39 AM
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This happened to me 10 years ago. I've thought of suicide many times. None of my five kids talk to me and I've never met my grandkids. 20 years of investment into a marriage and a life and career thrown away. My daughter was basically given sasy to human trafficking in her mother's cult church - I showed the judge in court the text where my 17 year old daughter was being sent to live with a cult leader to "be prepared for marriage" and because she was "too much like her father" and needed to "le…
/r/MensRights05/12/22 04:37 AM
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https://www.npr.org/2022/12/03/1140529078/research-sheds-light-on-the-dramatic-rise-in-gun-related-deaths-since-2004 Male suicide? Meh. Black female deaths BAD BAD BAD - thanks for clarifying, NPR "MCCAMMON: And you look at how these firearm deaths affect specific populations, specific groups. So in the past decade, you find that homicide rates for Black women in particular have tripled. The rates of suicide by firearm for white men have increased by more than 40%. And the rate for women as a wh…
/r/MensRights05/12/22 04:14 AM
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Please oh please oh PLEEEAAASEEEEE - sniffle cry beg grovel
/r/MensRights05/12/22 04:12 AM
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SPECIAL REPORT: 99% OF ALL STATISTICS ARE MADE UP. "There are lies, damn lies, and statistics." -- Mark Twain
/r/MensRights05/12/22 04:11 AM
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Such a joke - the stats are easily found but kinda buried but there is an exponential rise in middle aged white men committing suicide. Doesn't sound like a lack of "white male privilege" problem.
/r/MensRights05/12/22 04:09 AM
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I literally today heard an NPR article about gun deaths and they did say there's a old huge growing amount of male suicides by gun - but then went on to dominate the segment with the NEW problem of black women dying by guns. Ya know, because the MANY DECADES LONG EPIDEMIC of male gun suicide deaths is just not important at all.
/r/MensRights05/12/22 04:07 AM
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100 percent
/r/MensRights04/12/22 08:26 PM
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Men do not exist in a vacuum
/r/MensRights04/12/22 05:49 PM
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You can sue this woman in civil court for what she did to you. I may be a lawyer in a year - someday I hope to take such cases pro bono. There have to be consequences for people who do this to others.
/r/MensRights03/12/22 10:21 PM
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I appreciate you trying to bring this up. As a man I am less able to bring it up - but I was kind of shocked that several years ago NPR which is certainly not known for this sort of reporting, had a segment which included a young man talking about his girlfriend and possibly her friend tying him up, I think while sleeping, and raping him. The young man cried during the interview and talked about his body betraying him, such a chilling echo of the descriptions women have given and the deep stigma…
/r/MensRights03/12/22 05:23 AM
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Update - now that I'm into the show it just sux in general.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 11:47 AM
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Yeah Discovery was horrible.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 11:24 AM
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Agreed but I don't mind anyone who is a truly good lead. But bad writing and acting is just bad - doesn't matter what junk they got.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 10:24 AM
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The article says According to the complaint, the programs supporting women are outdated because women now outnumber men in college programs. Women in the United States have indeed earned more bachelor's degrees than men since the mid-1980s. Women also outperform men academically, earning higher GPAs in high school and college. Even in male-dominated STEM fields, there's evidence women's grades are better than men's. Regarding graduate school, women have outnumbered men in law school since 2016 a…
/r/MensRights01/12/22 09:50 AM
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This needs to happen more. I used to work at a Title IX major research university (believe it or not some universities decline federal funds that put them under Title IX). I was and am supportive of women in the workplace and even helped a woman file a sexual harassment complaintbabout one of my male employees (who was creepy AF but who I was friends with at first - he should have been fired) but the way merely an accusation can destroy a man's career even after he is cleared by such an investig…
/r/MensRights01/12/22 09:46 AM
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Yeah lot of younger men say things like "if anyone hits me, even a woman, I hit back - I don't discriminate" I can't really disagree
/r/MensRights01/12/22 09:43 AM
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It was very empowering tho - especially with what my ex wife was doing to me then -and had done in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:55 AM
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Yup but I think it is finally changing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:54 AM
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And this woman was neurotic as shit. She once went on a rant about how she was always the fat little girl and her mommy would make her cookies (she was still hefferish) and she had a literal 5 foot x 5 foot poster on her wall of her daughter/ only child that she worshipped and spoiled. Her husband was a fireman and any time she needed anything done she would call him to come over from the firehouse and he would run around terrified trying to please his queen and earn her approval. One time a co …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:42 PM
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Yup and that day I said to myself "I've had to be manipulated by women my whole life - I am so fuckin over it - I've got my own damn problems while this lady is a pampered bitch but she doesn't care - narcissism is okay on women but not men" so I quickly decided what would be a way to talk to her my female bosses would completely agree with and turned the tables - bam! Success!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:38 PM
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Agreed - woman at my job pulled this. I had just gotten divorced and she used emotional manipulation all the time at our job which was a renowned academic psychological public health research center where we all knew better. She had this tactic of sending messages to everyone's supervisor to intimidate them so whenever she asked for anything I copied my supervisor. She called me into her office to say she was very angry I did this and began yelling at me. Knowing if I did this she'd say I scared…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:33 PM
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Give it whatever name you want - I tell my brother sometimes when he is being King Kong and no one can deal with him "hey bro, put on your big boy pants and use your words"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:22 PM
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Great unproductive stereotype
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:21 PM
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No offense but I'm calling bullshit on this while also agreeing. Men often do not have "emotional intelligence" but this is not really our fault - society pretty much makes it impossible for us to have it. Men are learning emotional intelligence and doing better all the time. It's not productive to call men's emotions juvenile - it's part of the fuckin problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:19 PM
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I'm not completely sure I'm getting your main point here. My take is that PEOPLE vent this way and men have been dehumanized by others and each other that we don't do this healthy normal thing. So my friends know that they can bitch to me and I can bitch to them, but also we kinda process a little on our own so we don't give someone both barrels of the firehouse when we are gonna rant about some bullshit we gotta deal with. We also try to remember to sincerely say something like, "Thanks for lis…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:13 PM
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It is pretty idiotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:49 AM
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It IS interesting that man's civilizations seem to be more like insects than mammals.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:49 AM
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Yeah we are functional, often at being dysfunctional to a very functional degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:48 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:47 AM
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I no longer believe man has a soul or spirit but I use this term anyway to denote that the human mind is also not completely natural - something further from the merely animal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:47 AM
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And that's an interesting point. It's pretty easy to see, through the lens of operant conditioning and evolution, how our seemingly highly advanced civilization is still very firmly rooted in the animal world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:45 AM
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Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:44 AM
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Or the curse of reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:44 AM
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By virtue of our civilization and technology have we begin to bring ourselves out of nature to be other than merely animal?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:43 AM
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Agreed. There is a very interesting idea out forward in many books - Escape From Freedom by Erich Fromm in particular. Makes a great case that man is no longer in nature and also not free from it. We are sort of in this twilight or purgatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:42 AM
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That last point is a big one. I used to be completely against man engineering our own evolution. I'm not anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:41 AM
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From a natural perspective absolutely. But by nature of our purely animal mental evolution haven't we also positioned ourselves outside of nature, our technology, our creating an artificial environment called Civilization that now largely controls our evolution?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:40 AM
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I think it's a question of if we aspire to be more. I guess that theoretically is civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:38 AM
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Agreed but people love to be reductionist about this - throwing out glob statements like "we are all just animals" to justify whatever bad behavior they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:37 AM
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I've been reading about the elephant rider paradigm an old idea that people's rational mind is like a person riding an emotional elephant. Was good to have a term for this in pop culture. It seems accepted that humans are not rational creatures except that we rationalize.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:36 AM
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Yeah humanism - it's too bad that movement won't take off - hell even the word is almost completely absent from the lexicon
/r/MensRights03/07/22 08:50 PM
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Well one thing that I found fascinating is that RISE and many other family shelters will not allow men or boys as young as 10 saying that the other women there will feel threatened by men in their home / apartment complex. And of the boys who are allowed to stay they cannot visit with male relatives there - and they are often required to participate in rabid toxic feminist group activities or their mother and siblings will get kicked out. These boys grow up thinking they are monsters.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 08:48 PM
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Doesn't really matter of feminists speak for most women or not - it's the dominant social theory that is causing infinite damage to men AND women. It's not the only severely destructive social force in society today but it's one of the top. Almost worst of all is how little people realize how it has influenced them - like the "patriarchy" it's often an invisible poison.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 08:46 PM
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Absolutely label cut and throw away - the level of discourse is appalling.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 08:40 PM
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I tried to look up this very issue once. Told some women they have no idea what it is like for men unless they could walk in our shoes. Well here we are.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 07:04 PM
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Cardi B says it was the men's fault: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-47718477
/r/MensRights03/07/22 06:56 PM
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Cardi B's answer "Whether or not they were poor choices at the time, I did what I had to do to survive"
/r/MensRights03/07/22 06:54 PM
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Good points - are you saying that we are sort of in this twilight area or hahaha "no man's land" or purgatory or sweet spot between the two - between the natural world and transcending it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 08:56 PM
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I could believe this. Like I said earlier on any debate about relationships, dating or sex there seems to be this very pervasive overt or unspoken premise that man is an animal as product of evolution. I guess I'm trying to figure out what this even means to people and if they are even aware or how this idea is being used in the discussion or in their minds or society - if they are even aware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 08:53 PM
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So where do things like art fit into the realm of animal behavior? Are these on any sort of continuum? Is there any break from mere biology or the natural world into some other realm?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 08:51 PM
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Basic society. So like the ancient Mesopotamia?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 08:47 PM
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Hahaha yeah we do think a lot of ourselves! Do we have the potential to me more- like less aggressive, more just, more wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:03 PM
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Well do you think that humans have to be gods to be able to transcend the natural world? I'm not talking Star Trek aliens / Dr Strange / Dr Manhattan powers bending time and space - I'm talking our mind having the ability to get past our animalistic impulses in any effective way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:50 PM
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Well my point is that so much on this forum suggests that modern dating and the red blue pills debate is founded on humans being chained to our evolutionarily determined behavior. Are we slaves to evolution or are we able to break free at all? Are we just very intelligent animals - chained to instinct etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:47 PM
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Hahaha - yeah we got some good stuff goin on that's for sure. Some bad stuff too. I wonder if we will ever get basic evolutionary forces like hate, aggression etc. Some pretty dark stuff seems woven into our DNA.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:45 PM
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Agreed. Do you think sex and aggression are our primary drives? Can we get past that at all really?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:44 PM
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I'm intrigued. What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:43 PM
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Yeah - have you seen Idiocracy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:42 PM
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Do you think that means it's basically hopeless for humans to be more than animals? Do we or will we always find partners based on evolutionary factors? Will sex and aggression always drive us more than reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:42 PM
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Men would walk around with or without erections to depending on if they are showers or growers 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:28 PM
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People can do whatever they want but I don't want to be with someone who is essentially looking for white collar psychopaths - I'm better than that and demand partners who are less controlled by evolutionary / primitive forces. I want a human partner not a vehicle for "the selfish gene"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:24 PM
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And women underestimate how society demands they are always believed and men always disbelieved
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:22 PM
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I don't know why we guys even care - women often do choose garbage men just like men choose women with little discretion - studies have shown women often fuck for status - but still from an objective viewpoint still with tons of partners and indiscriminately. Anyone can work the system if all they want is to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:21 PM
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