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If people are interested I'll take apart this nonsense about "misogyny" and "misogynistic societies" in another post.
/r/MensRights15/10/16 07:25 AM
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How can you be so stupid to not realize what is going on? Or so callous as to not care what the truth is...
/r/MensRights13/06/16 08:04 AM
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Yes well according to Laura Bates, everything is sexism. I remember watching a video of her on Youtube. She was all faux innocence about how she thought (when she started the EverydaySexism site) just a few people would get in touch, and she was amazed by the sheer extent of all this sexism. She's so disingenuous, so carefully divisive, so eager to make men and women distrust each other. Foul woman.
/r/MensRights01/06/16 08:51 PM
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Yes well there's plenty of issues to think about there. In my country (UK): - women control when sex happens - they want complete control over whether it leads to a baby - they get to decide if they want to abort a pregnancy within 24 weeks - they are campaigning against the 24 week limit - they decide whose name goes on the birth certificate as father - they decide whether a DNA test is done to check who the father is - they get a legal right to maternity leave and pay (by law - with men the em…
/r/MensRights25/05/16 08:09 AM
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http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/6321bbb6-1c5f-11e6-bf22-78061c6f2b5c Behind a pay wall, sadly. It seems to be quoted in full here: https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/justice-for-bishop-george-bell-of-chichester (amongst a whole lot of other stuff!)
/r/MensRights20/05/16 06:35 AM
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There's a very good piece in the (London) Times today - by Daniel Finkelstein - on the related subject of false accusations of sexual abuse, and the very serious effect they can have on people's lives.
/r/MensRights18/05/16 08:05 PM
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Also (though I don't want to intrude) I'd guess that this isn't a time to be thinking about politics. Politics (gender politics even more so) is a cruel business. People are so convinced that they are right that they forget to treat each other with any respect. Not a good thing to be involved in when you're vulnerable, and when you may be doing a lot of thinking. Hope this is helpful. All the best
/r/MensRights18/05/16 06:14 PM
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A bit of feminist editing has gone on there I seem to recall...
/r/MensRights17/05/16 09:21 PM
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But that puts consent on a degree of capability rather than a black and white, which means that the stopping point is arbitrary. Aren't we saying the same thing? My point is more that women (not girls) have indeed claimed hormones affected their behaviour - to get favourable decisions in court when they've broken the law - but that men can't use the same defence, even though plenty of male behaviour is surely affected by hormone levels
/r/MensRights14/05/16 11:58 PM
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I'm sorry, man. Take care
/r/MensRights14/05/16 07:01 PM
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But dont you see that this is exactly one of the claims people believe teens shouldn't be capable of consenting to sex in the first place? They're "hormone wild" and cant control themselves so they make bad decisions etc. ok well my initial response to that is that they are hormone wild, and that teenagers are frequently rubbish at decision-making. If being "hormone-wild" meant that proper consent wasn't possible, then pretty much all sex would be rape - so I think it would be foolish to define …
/r/MensRights14/05/16 06:11 PM
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Oh, her hormones were misbehaving so could she not go to jail please? Men have hormones too, of course, but we go do to jail if we can't control them because.... er because why, exactly? Why was it different for men and women, again? I seem to have forgotten...
/r/MensRights05/05/16 09:49 PM
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"They were under a lot of stress at the time..."
/r/MensRights02/05/16 07:19 PM
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I had major surgery one time, and my partner (bless her) sat beside my bed with me as I recovered. I could barely move or speak after I came to (lots of morphine & fentanyl etc) so I did have to just lie there and put up with it when some nurse came and talked to her, saying "it's worse for you really than it is for him...." Now I don't want to be self-pitying, but this wasn't the easiest moment I've lived through, lol...
/r/MensRights24/04/16 06:17 AM
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"Economists Mikael Elinder and Oscar Erixson from the University of Uppsala in Sweden h You might want to read the criticisms of this (somewhat flawed) research here: http://www.feministcritics.org/blog/2012/04/18/
/r/MensRights23/04/16 07:31 PM
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I seem to remember reading that an Officer Lightoller refused to allow men onto lifeboats. He threatened men (who were trying to escape in a lifeboat) with a Webley revolver, calling them cowards and saying "I'd like to see all of you overboard" There was a "women & children first" policy for escape from a sinking. Lightoller took this to mean women & children only. Consequently, some lifeboats with a capacity of 65 seats went out with many empty seats (one with only 12 people). So basically men…
/r/MensRights23/04/16 06:26 PM
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Ah another hoax threat. You see, this is what makes all those complaints of "abuse" and "threats" that you hear from the like of Anita Sarkesian so dubious. Any of her threats could be fake - and would she care? Let's not forget Meg Lanker-Simons as well.. When talking about abusive behaviour online it is a huge error to assume that it's all coming from white adolescent males
/r/MensRights19/04/16 09:54 PM
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I think feminism is now clearly linked to the desire to control. They've long been on about changing language (they were always on about words like "chairman" in the 80s, as if that word made a difference to anything) They've turned it up a notch, and have more recently tried to ban words like "bossy", "fat" etc. Look at their behaviour wrt Tim Hunt (who didn't even mean what they said he meant) & Matt Taylor, look at Kate Brooks' furious attempt to silence others in the Oxford debate, and her s…
/r/MensRights12/04/16 03:59 PM
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As long as they're not bright red, or leather, or tight fitting
/r/MensRights11/04/16 07:40 PM
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She's got a blog, btw, where she discusses this and is fairly bitter about it (according to "translate to English") I would post the address, but, y'know..
/r/MensRights11/04/16 07:28 PM
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The only tie back to men's rights I can think of here is that it's insulting to our intelligence to say that we can't concentrate if there is a woman in a short skirt near by. But this is perfectly true - so hardly an insult. Teenagers find the opposite sex horribly distracting, and boys concentrate on the visual, so sexy skirts are just going to ruin their studying capability
/r/MensRights11/04/16 07:22 PM
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Weird subject to have on this subreddit - but worth talking about. Women daily wear incredibly sexy outfits, and I absolutely love it, I don't mind saying. Perhaps they feel able to because they are more confident, socially & sexually (the muslims will put a stop to that - in Bradford, UK, muslim boys shout "prostitute" at women who dress in clothes eg: showing their shoulders. I've seen it happen more than once) Perhaps women's dress reflects their higher status (than men). But it's seriously d…
/r/MensRights11/04/16 07:18 PM
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I see I'm late on this one, having just found out about it from a reference in a blog. And it's mostly been said already on this subreddit: feminists want to control male sexuality completely - they want porn to be banned, prostitution to be illegal, and now they want to ban sex-robots. (also a father needs a the mother's permission to get a DNA test to check paternity. In the UK, a mother decides who goes on the birth certificate as father. And look at their controlling behaviour wrt sex. There…
/r/MensRights09/04/16 07:32 PM
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Exactly the same concerns apply with some of the cases of male students in the US being kicked off their university courses for the mere suggestion of sexual misconduct. In some of these cases, the men had kept texts, or (with their lawyers) had been able to track down strong evidence of their innocence (often communications from the women involved) The universities (Amherst is one case, but there are others) seem to have been very slow to reinstate the male students in the face of such evidence…
/r/MensRights25/03/16 09:25 PM
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Well in the UK we have government reports with statistics (based on questionnaires - I know, I know...) suggesting that 90,000 people are raped annually - compared to the 1000 or so convictions... The estimates I hear seem to go up by about 8,000 to 10,000 every year. 75,000 one year, then 85,000, now I think the latest estimate is 93,000. Now these questionnaires are awful research, but it's incredibly powerful ammunition for feminist propaganda. Very difficult to reason with people - they're p…
/r/MensRights25/03/16 06:59 PM
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I prefer it here - bit less cliquey
/r/MensRights10/02/16 10:21 PM
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Yes if 2 people brush past one another in one of the busiest places in Europe, it must be the man's fault and he must be punished! That's life in 21st century Britain folks, one of the vanguards of freedom
/r/MensRights10/02/16 10:20 PM
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I like Cameron mostly, but he does come out with some appease-the-progressives BS every now and then. I think he gets some of it from his wife A few years ago, we had an all-party group of female MPS calling for women's prisons to be abolished because they "led to stress and depression". We know that men are already discriminated against in criminal sentencing (as they are in the divorce system, in the classroom, in most countries that have conscription etcetc) so now MPs want to make this trend…
/r/MensRights07/02/16 08:33 PM
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A very hotly contested award :) Should it go to the feminists & useful idiots who ignore the figures saying that more women go to university overall than men, that there are more women studying languages, biology, medical & social sciences. They ignore all that and say how unfair it is that there are more men doing STEM sciences. Where women predominate, noone sees it, when it's men, everyone believes this "discrimination"/"sexism" rubbish. Or should it be the bias in criminal sentencing - where…
/r/MensRights02/02/16 05:53 PM
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As you say, that's precisely the way she played it when someone mentioned men's suicide rates in a select committee from the House of Commons. She laughed rather callously, then after that silent about the issue and how she had behaved. What she did talk a lot about was the threats she allegedly got (she had to dig really deep to find any, as I recall). It was clear that she didn't remotely care about the men who commit suicide - except insomuch as she could exploit the situation selfishly. It's…
/r/MensRights02/02/16 05:34 PM
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...and Birmingham is full of Muslims. Coincidentally. But Ms Phillips is, of course, trying to attack white males as usual. She's obviously tried to use feminism to further her career - after her previous bit of publicity for doing the same thing (which she considers a success) Harriet Harman did the same sort of thing in the UK, quoting false & damaging statistics in the press.
/r/MensRights30/01/16 08:21 AM
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well it basically means no sex or break the law. You're hardly going to break off and say "can we reconvene tomorrow? I have to tell the police first"
/r/MensRights24/01/16 07:23 PM
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The Guardian is unbelievably full of sweet and smelly stuff. But one of their head honchos, Michael White, did express some reservations about feminism once - don't know if he kept his job.. He's probably the only one though. It used to be a weekly pain, looking at what the Graun had to say about gender this week. They'd usually say something beserk to wind people up and get people to come to the comments page. Then they'd delete half the comments. Very silly place
/r/MensRights24/01/16 07:20 PM
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"Anytime you challenge any aspect of feminism … you’re going to hear that you hate women." The response? Medieval scholars have widely condemned the post online as misogynistic I guess he has some enemies in his profession. But mainly another bunch of twerps who say "misogyny" all the time
/r/MensRights24/01/16 07:10 PM
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Yet I've had a tedious, long argument with a young guy on twitter (who naturally thinks he knows better than me) telling me that GAE got off on a technicality. I'm actually concerned that the judge wasn't quite categorical enough - that he's left things open for a later precedent that someone could say they subjectively "feel" threatened - and therefore bring a harassment case. That was one of the main things I didn't like - the plasticity of the word harassment, which invites misuse of the law …
/r/MensRights23/01/16 08:53 AM
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Thank God. Some joy for once. Personally I think Ms Guthrie's behaviour, as reported, was quite amazingly spiteful. She's probably made some money from it too ... but also some enemies. I'm looking at some of the tweets in the fallout from this. The level of stupidity is unfathomable. Some people have drifted off into saying we need to broaden the definition of violence - so they can say it's violence when someone annoys them, presumably. Similarly, feminists are bemoaning being "harassed", beca…
/r/MensRights22/01/16 11:49 PM
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Well not Karen as someone else said. But this is one of my favourite videos by any anti-feminist. It's very dark, but I think there is this side to some ladies, sadly. I consider myself pretty difficult to manipulate, but when I was young I occasionally fell for the kind of nonsense Diana is on about. I think it's part of a series by Diana where she looks at things like women killing their husbands and getting off on the battered wife defence.
/r/MensRights22/01/16 03:56 PM
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It's the "the misogyny evident in some of these posts" post again. Sigh. And wouldn't you know it - (s)he forgot to give any concrete examples. How did that happen?
/r/MensRights22/01/16 12:11 PM
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This relates to something that's ben bothering me recently. I've seen plenty of tweets about Women in STEM fields recently. As I understand it there are plenty of women-only grants to encourage women into these disciplines - does anyone have the lowdown? Now here in the UK (& in US too I think) there are fewer boys going into Higher Education than girls, boys are also doing less well at almost every level of education. Women outnumber men in quite a few subjects. Feminists - as usual - pick the …
/r/MensRights22/01/16 11:47 AM
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I suspect some deliberately misogynistic posts recently are from feminists who think that is what we believe, I do worry about that. Some feminists (Meg Lanker Simons for a start) are not above posting unpleasant remarks about women on twitter/FB, and then taking a snapshot or two. You then see these pastiches of "hate-speech-comments" made by Anita Saarkesian, and I wonder if they're real or not. Would be good to know ...and some of the posts look ridiculously contrived. I really do think you'r…
/r/MensRights22/01/16 10:01 AM
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This is a bit of a problem - feminists think they have the right to get people sacked for disagreeing with them. I keep hearing stories like this: Stephanie Guthrie comes to mind
/r/MensRights22/01/16 08:35 AM
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I actually argued with a feminist psychologist about this - her concern was that if there were found to be differences, then it might be used to justify gender discrimination in jobs So basically, she didn't want the science to say one thing rather than another - for political reasons. Never mind that these are averages. Even if men are on average better than women at math, or if women are on average better with language - that would not justify excluding anyone from a job just because of their …
/r/MensRights20/01/16 12:04 AM
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Yes I think there is something in that. Deep down they worry that the sexes are in fact psychologically very different, and that men may be better at certain things. After all, look at what feminists do: they complain constantly; they talk and write a great deal, but with no real logic; they form cliques; they debate using social dynamics, shaming, constant interruption and exclusion rather than reason - about which concept they seem to have only the sketchiest notion. Hardly breaking any stereo…
/r/MensRights19/01/16 11:56 PM
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She says With the two-child policy, women aren’t being handed any more freedom; ‘married couples’ are And that's just the thing. She thinks the only possible issue is "women's freedom", in a world where women have complete control over sex, families, procreation etc....because she's seen the Western model. This sentence reads like something from the Guardian. The always unspoken subtext is that someone needs to pay for the children, and if a mother is single, that the state should do it - making…
/r/MensRights02/01/16 06:25 PM
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Interesting - thankyou. I found one report that said the data was nowhere near good enough to tell (which doesn't surprise me. it's often nearly impossible to estimate numbers of deaths after an armed conflict) But we can probably put to rest the claim that "women bear the brunt of wars" as feminist nonsense. According to them, women bear the brunt of everything..
/r/MensRights27/12/15 09:29 AM
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99% of war deaths and casualties are men It's tricky because if you are talking about the soldiers, men will be 99%, if it's all casualties including from bombing, pillage etc, it will be different.. Politicians tend to talk a lot about women "bearing the brunt" of war We need to get the stats right and definitions clear - otherwise we're almost as guilty as feminists who misrepresent the gender wage gap (though their dishonesty on that issue would be hard to match) EDIT: found a pdf of research…
/r/MensRights26/12/15 09:32 AM
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I'm pretty sure world wide men are over 80% of the deaths in these conflicts, maybe more. Someone else said 99% on this forum. It's tricky because if you are talking about the soldiers, men will be 99%, if it's all casualties including from bombing etc, it will be different.. Can we have decent stats linked to?
/r/MensRights26/12/15 09:30 AM
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Good list... except I wonder about the first item. Is there good evidence linking society's focus on women's health & safety to the different life-spans? A commonly held perception is that women are better at looking after themselves (and others), and that this is part of why you get the difference.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 08:54 AM
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Maybe so (what about the European science agency?) - and it's good news, but I'm staggered by the power these feminist lynch mobs seem to wield - on the word of just any old crappy journalist. I think there was definitely pressure on him from UCL to resign, much as they may claim otherwise. Read Michael Arthur's words at the time, when there were plenty questioning the hasty response. Men in senior positions don't want to stand up to feminism, for whatever reason (we should devote a thread to wh…
/r/MensRights22/12/15 05:01 PM
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He's lost positions in the Royal Society, UCL and other organisations, because a stupid feminist cried "offense". I wouldn't call that winning. The only reason his name has been cleared is because of the tireless work of Louise Mensch - who hates a lot of what feminism has become (but not all!)
/r/MensRights22/12/15 09:09 AM
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Yes plausible denial is their MO. They say something vague and then refuse to accept any analysis of what they said. They're very good at it - but they'll deny that 2+2=4 if they have to..
/r/MensRights12/12/15 07:59 PM
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Milo is an exceptionally good debater - he often looks as though he's taken some er... mild stimulant, his logic is very very good (I very rarely see good logic in public debate) and he is ludicrously quick and articulate. He needs to be, quite frankly. One of the hallmarks of feminist debating tactics is that it takes a genius to unravel the thousand confusions and evasions they pack into every sentence. They are playing cat and mouse - 'you try and tell me where I'm confusing thing and I'll de…
/r/MensRights03/12/15 09:29 PM
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As to whether most women would agree with us: I don't know. Everyone's different. I do think there are a number of women who display suspect attitudes towards men in general. With young single women there's a funny group dynamic towards men. When a woman is in a contented relationship she'll certainly take her SO's side, and think "well hang on, just why should he be discriminated against in the job market?". Then, as you say, a mother who has a son is likely to take their boy's point of view to…
/r/MensRights27/11/15 08:35 AM
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This case is one of the more infuriating examples of grief caused by feminists I think the reason (for me) that it's so annoying, is that Guthrie looks so self-satisfied - resentful creep that she is. She's wrecked lives - truth be told if she'd wrecked women's lives I doubt she'd care much anyway - but I get the impression the fact that men's lives have been damaged (by her nastiness) matters not in the least bit to her. Has she the faintest idea that men are human beings with feelings? Does co…
/r/MensRights26/11/15 10:31 PM
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Weeelll - there are a whole bunch of people pretending to be Syrian refugees. I've seen it estimated that 70% are from somewhere else - I haven't checked the accuracy of this. Also that a huge majority are men. The question is: should western nations be looking at a different approach entirely - other than cramming our borders with dubious refugees forever. But yes - it has the stink of "look how moral we are, looking after women and children". Everyone except men - you see it often enough, yet …
/r/MensRights23/11/15 03:49 AM
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I have to say this: but it's not going to look good...Here goes. There's a nasty sort of dynamic going on in some cases, where the wife works subtly to undermine the husband's friendships - by tiny little criticisms, emotional displays etc. He thus becomes more dependent on the wife and her social world, which she has more control over - and she therefore gets more control over him. The husband must avoid this at all costs Do we do the same to women? I don't know, but I do get the sense that wom…
/r/MensRights15/11/15 10:18 PM
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“When I’ve got parity, when women in these buildings have parity, you can have your debate. And that will take an awfully long time.” Yes it's an interesting argument - so if 90% of men outside Westminster were committing suicide, and 51% of MPs were still male, she would still oppose a discussion of men's rights Its the usual identity politics confusion - because most MPs are men, all homeless, suicidal or unemployed men are still "members of the group that has power". So it's ok to forget abou…
/r/MensRights07/11/15 10:42 PM
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This is par-for-the-course feminist behaviour. It ought to be in "Dealing with feminism 101": They behave really badly and then if there is any sign of anger or criticism they cry misogyny & start to act the victim. If I recall correctly there were comments on some godawful site that weren't addressed to Phillips - so they barely constituted a threat. It is surprising - seeing that she laughed about male suicides - that she didn't get anything nastier. She had to dig around to find any real abus…
/r/MensRights07/11/15 09:09 PM
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Make a written record - with dates - of everything that happens/happened. Make it as contemporaneous as you can. (writing can be good for getting it out of your system, but what I mean is a clear account of the facts) Get the dates right - the other side might slip up on their details if they are lying: they may say you were somewhere when you have evidence you were somewhere else Rehearse your story of what happened in your head. Your account will be called into question. do everything you can …
/r/MensRights07/11/15 08:10 AM
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This idea that the sexes are the same and that gender is a social construct is not supported by serious science (which suggests the opposite) Hormones flood the brain before birth and cause brain-structure and (it seems) behaviour differences early on. There is also the blindingly obvious example of transgender people - if a few men are born with a female brain then that kind of disproves the idea that gender is a social construct for ever. Case closed. ...but the problem is that feminists have …
/r/MensRights06/11/15 08:26 AM
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I long had a problem with feminism - but only slowly started to formulate in my mind what was wrong with it. Occasionally I'd see some statistic that confirmed my suspicions, but In 2010 I saw some extraordinarily confident and smart Youtube videos by a 17 yr old called Marina. I thought they were bloody marvelous. She eventually deleted them - I often wondered why. She'd had death threats, but maybe she'd decided things were more nuanced than she's said. She talked about Warren Farrell - the fi…
/r/MensRights05/11/15 11:15 PM
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This was fantastic - I'm surprised by how much of what he says I agree with. He's got the ability to think logically - which few people have really, and the ability to turn logic into succinct, articulate debating points. Hence you get some beautiful quotes, like the following: Now progressives are telling us we can be born with the wrong brain. And if you can be born with a female brain there must be such a thing as a female brain. So surely femininity can't be a social construct. Make your blo…
/r/MensRights05/11/15 04:05 PM
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Very helpful thankyou! One thing feminists mention to me is the historical practice of breaking young girls feet - a feminist friend of mine claims this was widespread in China in the 19th century. Is this so?
/r/MensRights03/11/15 09:32 PM
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Yes I didn't provide much constructively :) It's difficult. It depends what you want the idea of "harassment" to do: there will always be a grey area I think. I myself like to keep our liberties and that includes the freedom to offend. I think Karl Popper was at least one of the people who espoused the idea that you should be free as long as you are not limiting other people's freedoms. So I'm not a big fan of harassment laws. However there are cases of bullying: repeated following about (more t…
/r/MensRights02/11/15 03:56 PM
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One of the best criticisms of feminism I ever heard was when feminists were attacking a UK scientist was "we could always give up science and let the Chinese take over - what's their view of 3rd wave feminism, remind me?" They're not too big on feminism either, I don't think. There's just no point us telling them what to do
/r/MensRights02/11/15 08:38 AM
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"Stop replying to any further posts I make in this sub, or I will consider it harassment. That can also be misused. I could argue tenuously about something and then say "stop harassing me!" - it's a way of winning the argument. And you can guarantee that a certain group of people known to us will use this trick..
/r/MensRights01/11/15 11:02 PM
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impossible to prove intent
/r/MensRights01/11/15 10:59 PM
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One slightly OT thing that drives me mad: you'll all have seen it. There's a controversial post or news item on a gender politics issue, and plenty of lively debate under the line.. It's all good - but there's ALWAYS someone who says "I'm concerned about the misogyny evident in some of these comments...blah blah" There's a comment like this - spineless, passive aggressive, trying to put social pressure on people - in every gender issues comment section. (edit: the comment is never a response to …
/r/MensRights01/11/15 10:57 PM
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My initial thought is that your concepts of harrassment are still liable to misinterpretation. So you haven't cleared up the issue. There will still be plenty of scenarios where one side will claim they are arguing the case - and the other will say "you're misrepresenting my position/insulting me!" Harassment should only be in RL - or if someone is following you around in every thread and forum you comment on, pestering you. Only ban something if you absolutely have to. Usually, you don't have t…
/r/MensRights01/11/15 10:52 PM
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Clickbait, and a puerile attempt to wind up MRAs - sadly, it probably worked. More than 1500 comments there when I Iooked. Still it's a link if we need evidence if double standards. One of our best resources would be a really solid set of links, quotes and screenshots. Shouldn't be hard to collect
/r/MensRights30/10/15 11:34 AM
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What amuses me is what happens when you tell feminists about statistics like these. These are people who've been uncritically accepting a narrative on partner violence for decades, shouting and ridiculing people for not agreeing... Present them with this study and all of a sudden it's "weeeell you can make statistics support almost any conclusion", and their skepticism and rationality are there for all to see! And they're right, damnit, lol. Stats can be manipulated. It just never occurred to th…
/r/MensRights27/10/15 09:44 PM
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Rape has become such a bizarre word I'm afraid this is just a function of politics. I'm forever using Orwell's quote about political language. Politicians thrive on vague and emotive language. This is doubly true of feminists, who are doing nothing but politics. The movement only exists because they can anger & scare women with vague talk of an unspecific male conspiracy against all women. Look at their vagueness over what misogyny and sexism mean. Look how "equality" has changed meaning to suit…
/r/MensRights27/10/15 09:20 PM
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Actually this is something of a hot topic in the UK (it usually is, for the usual reasons). The progressive/feminist crowd are throwing around stats based on a 2013 government report which gives an estimate of 85000 rapes occuring per year. Now I've thought of a few criticisms of the figure given (it's an extrapolation of an estimated figure from a badly-worded questionnaire - 3 or 4 kinds of bad science already - also more than half the women who the survey classifies as rape victims did not se…
/r/MensRights27/10/15 08:07 PM
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I know cases of this sort of thing happening in the UK, women interrogating fathers, looking for the slightest shortcoming. I guess the pretext is that it's "for the good of the child". The problem is: how much power some people have over the lives of others, whether there are checks on the way they use that power, and whether they allow their personal faults and prejudices to influence decisions. How accountable are they? Perhaps one issue is that it's rarely the father who has custody in the f…
/r/MensRights25/10/15 08:59 AM
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Bonus points if you manage not to mention Carlin & Pryor Well that's ridiculous. Carlin is one of my favourite comedians - so he goes on the list. Why should he not be there? If a woman makes me laugh that much then cool. You're seeing bias where there isn't any. (or are you saying look how cool I am for not choosing mainstream people?)
/r/MensRights15/10/15 04:51 AM
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Sounds like Dara's got the right of it. Well except that he (edited: not 'she' as I wrote) apparently wants more women in "computer coding" - God knows why, apart from a weird sort of envy of what boys are good at* - and sees it as an important inequality. ...to which the answer is: more women should go on IT courses. *I leave this as I wrote it when I got O'Brien's gender wrong (!), but the sentiment is in fact correct - although the envy is not his!
/r/MensRights15/10/15 04:48 AM
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I think it's more to do with the supposedly "impartial" BBCs various biases - including a strong feminist streak these days. Also about their devotion to Sandi Toksvig, who I find genuinely unfunny. If they have kept her career going because she is a) a woman and b) lesbian, and because they want the world to watch their seleceted female comedians: then that too would be vaguely interesting on a sub-reddit looking at gender politics like this one
/r/MensRights15/10/15 04:43 AM
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Weird. The BBC seem to have been keeping Toksvig's career alive for decades now
/r/MensRights15/10/15 04:31 AM
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She's showing typical vagueness about this "position of girls and women". What the hell does she mean by that? But the real problem is that we have a Scouts leader who talks like an episode of "Woman's hour". She more or less implies that the Scouts organisation does not exist to help boys improve their lives, it exists as a training camp so that boys will treat girls better. She's entirely focused on an issue invented by feminists. And she's leading the scouts. F***ing disaster. Who the hell ch…
/r/MensRights11/10/15 09:42 PM
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There might be some who are quite as dishonest as that. More likely it's a mixture of apathy, ignorance (those 2 we're all guilty of), not thinking, and being immersed in just one point of view - this emotionally charged victim narrative coupled with the slightly cliquey insistence that women stick together. That's the majority of people, then you get the few manipulating them.
/r/MensRights10/10/15 12:10 PM
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Fair point I suppose. Will he have trouble being accepted at other universities - considering the climate of moral panic in those institutions? It will certainly impact on his life. Both he and his accuser have been named Thank God someone is standing up to this nonsense anyway
/r/MensRights10/10/15 07:48 AM
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Bit tricky saying that something or other "caused" a suicide - we'll never know the exact causes of suicide. But we can say what these young men went through before they took their own lives.
/r/MensRights09/10/15 07:55 PM
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We also need to be honest - as a society - about the reality of false accusations. Some people believe they never happen - and try to justify changes in the law that make life harder for the accused - to get "better" conviction rates
/r/MensRights09/10/15 07:49 PM
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Yes one wonders why not - possibly because a police investigation might "hurt her feelings"? Or some nonsense like that. Libby Purves wrote a good piece in the Times about this - saying (I think) that false-accusers need to be brought to justice. (I think Purves' own son committed suicide, after mental health problems - though no rape allegation that I'm aware of. So this story must have upset her. But her piece seemed like a voice of sense in a newspaper that I thought was going to the dogs)
/r/MensRights09/10/15 07:43 PM
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This story breaks my heart. Others have mentioned the "gaining from the experience" quote - proof that feminists do not give a flying f**k about men. But to me I think this reflects the feminist vogue for calling all rape complainants "victims" - an implicit, cowardly assumption that women don't lie. This is where it's leading us.
/r/MensRights06/10/15 08:39 AM
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Stay clear of it. Point out what's wrong with it!
/r/MensRights06/10/15 08:29 AM
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Plath had long term problems which occasionally turned suicidal - she had tried to kill herself 2 years before meeting Hughes. Looking at his letters (which we can trust - he would not have repeatedly lied in letters) and various accounts, Ted Hughes felt massive, crippling guilt after Plath's death. It is a bit weird that the same thing happened to Hughes again (the woman who he left Plath for also committed suicide - his second marriage lasted till his death). But the simple fact remains that …
/r/MensRights06/10/15 08:25 AM
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Tom Martin has been a little quiet of late, and I don't blame him, but his A-Z list of discrimination against men is very entertaining http://www.sexismbusters.org/ref1.html His is probably slightly more UK-based. Child-support (our version of alimony) works differently and is perhaps less outrageous (I haven't studied it in-depth - the UK still in no way treats the father as an equal parent)
/r/MensRights06/10/15 06:47 AM
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I'm sorry, but that is ridiculous. I'm tired of this moving-of-the-goalposts Well I'm tired of it too, but I know too many women who aren't cauldrons of anti male resentment who still believe this kind of nonsense. So we'll see a lot more of it.. One is a friend who jokes with me pointedly that she enjoyed playing with lego as a young girl so she "could have been an engineer"! Her chosen work is slightly more stereotypically female - to do with fashion and the written word. But she'll confidentl…
/r/MensRights03/10/15 05:07 AM
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Movies & Video games are far from gynocentric and one could call them androcentric I'm not sure this is true of movies (plenty of male eye-candy,plenty of women going to the movies, plenty of plotless movies about feelings and romance, or "girl overcomes obstacles & prejudice" movies) But a lot of games are aimed at men, because so far many more men have played games. That is changing, and as women play more and more silly games on phones, you'll see more and more women's games (because men and …
/r/MensRights01/10/15 07:01 AM
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"Words have meanings" No!! People who have studied this know that words (EDIT: I mean the way people use them in reality) are NOT logically precise units of meaning. Wittgenstein tried to make language fit a model like this with his first philosophy, then spent a while realising how wrong he was. If you think that words have a single precise meaning, try defining "love" and "hate". You can't do it, and remember if you can't define hate then "misandry" etc become instantly meaningless. I'mnot tal…
/r/MensRights30/09/15 06:40 PM
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Well, actually, it means 'hatred of men'.... 'Misogyny', I'm afraid, has been perverted and all meaning is lost. We shouldn't do the same with 'misandry'. I agree with you when you say that "misandry" is starting to be used to mean anything MRAs don't like, BUT... There's a fundamental problem with all these words that most people don't get. You say it means "a hatred of men". Well the first problem is what do you mean by hatred - and that problem right there is insurmountable. "Love" and "hate"…
/r/MensRights29/09/15 09:00 PM
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As you say stereotypically feminist - ironically, they're reinforcing the stereotype that women use emotional & social manipulation rather than logic (plenty of women can use logic - but it seems feminsm just can't survive on it). Pointing this fact out to feminists is probably one way of raising the temperature a degree or 2:)
/r/MensRights29/09/15 08:07 AM
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they usually immediately jump in with anecdotal evidence "I have always seen", "a friend of mine once..." Exactly right , and that's just the tip of the iceberg. One could write a study on feminist debating tactics. It's fascinating to see the different evasive strategies: changing the subject, getting angry, trying to provoke anger, interrupting, dismissing evidence because of the source, assuming that all men are liars, "plausible" denial and so on.. The one thing all these do is distract from…
/r/MensRights28/09/15 09:44 PM
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It's actually pretty difficult to disentangle the deliberate obfuscations and vagueness, but they usually boil down to the same core confusions: a) feminists claim to want "equality" of some kind (a purposely vague term), but then at some stage you realise that they want all sorts of laws that treat men and women differently: abortion, rape, sexual assault laws, positive discrimination, laws that "protect women" etc etc If you make this point they will say "that's different because" - to which t…
/r/MensRights28/09/15 08:25 AM
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It's also interesting to note how conversations about patriarchy unfold. A feminist will list injustices affecting women and claim patriarchy (what it is, exactly noone knows) Someone says "well what about these other injustices that men face?" and the feminist goes "but don't you see? that's men suffering from patriarchy too!" (of course if they believe this, then why do they call it patriarchy? Why not use a meaningful and unbiased term like "gender roles"?) But the curious thing is - they alw…
/r/MensRights26/09/15 12:10 AM
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It's doubtful that feminism was ever a cogent, meaningful set of ideas about "equality". That was always the problem, it was always just certain women saying they wanted more. However, equality of opportunity seems fair enough, and equality in the law (unfortunately they've gone quiet about that one, since men became the ones who are unequal in the law) All very fair.. But feminists mostly got the things they wanted. For feminism to continue to exist as a political entity it needed to have issue…
/r/MensRights26/09/15 12:02 AM
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As a point of logic, your observation is interesting but the issue still remains that the school has a policy that discriminates against males. I agree it's not a massive issue but...
/r/MensRights25/09/15 11:35 PM
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I agree - it is discrimination - but surely what we want is a world where hysterical complaints about discrimination aren't taken seriously - not a world where both men and women are doing it. Women will always naturally get more sympathy than men. It cuts both ways - in one way you're making the valid point that, logically, if we really cared about gender discrimination, then we'd have to face the fact that men suffer at least as much* ...but at the same time, you're almost validating feminist …
/r/MensRights25/09/15 11:29 PM
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lol. I had 5' 8" in mind as his height, oh well scrub that.... Try Neil Strauss as an alternative example
/r/MensRights24/09/15 08:59 PM
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I think it's real for men. There's a guy I know who is quite tall and strong looking. It struck me how, when he enters a room, the atmosphere changes (especially among the women). Put yourself in the shoes of a small man - when he walks into a room, he'll be more likely to get quite a different reaction, possibly indifference. Some get bitter about this, or try too hard to get attention, betraying their lack of confidence. It must be a crappy place to be (and they'll be pissed with me for saying…
/r/MensRights24/09/15 07:57 PM
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http://yippy.com/ seems pretty outstanding - may be reliant on Google in some way
/r/MensRights24/09/15 07:26 PM
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Google and Facebook are turning into a bit of a problem. All you need to do is look at Google's Doodle of the day - almost invariably commemorating the 400th birthday of some unknown (and rightly so) female. If she didn't speak English that's extra PC points too!
/r/MensRights24/09/15 07:21 PM
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The Mens RIghts guys tend to clutch at egalitarianism (so they can say they are holier than the feminists, who don't truly believe in it, despite what they say) This is a mistake - men and women are different. Equality of opportunity is honourable, but only based on merit. Start talking about equality of outcome and we're screwed - and so is any notion of equality. Gender roles are not evil but probably quite natural I see you're using the M word: misogyny. Along with "misandry" this doesn't exi…
/r/MensRights23/09/15 08:23 AM
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Well (and believe me I'm no feminist) if you put yourself in the place of a woman who has genuinely been raped - a lot of things will be going through her mind. If she reports it to the police she'll have to go through 100 kinds of sh*t: interviews, cross-examination, etc. And usually it's his word against hers, so she knows she may not win the case - will she then be accused of fabricating the charge? So it's perfectly true it will scare women from reporting rape. If you use feminist logic (I d…
/r/MensRights30/08/15 07:02 AM
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OK. It’s hard to argue with such an incoherent rant but here goes. People are talking about “misogyny” a lot in various newspapers. Here's what's wrong with it...It doesn't mean anything. There is no definition of misogyny, because people using political language of this kind don't want to be tied down to a clear, specific meaning. They keep it intentionally vague. Now many people using the term seem to be talking about possibly sexist attitudes that arguably might be held by some people - but i…
/r/MensRights04/01/15 11:04 PM
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"I also think women who have long term affairs are also abusing their partners too" The point is that the word "abuse" conjures up the idea of physical beating. If a woman says a man is abusing her it sounds pretty bad. That's why it's more honest if she, and we use more precise terms - if someone has an affair then well we've got words to describe that clearly. We don't need to use vague terms like "abuse" that imply something else. Don't you think?
/r/MensRights20/01/14 12:58 AM
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Look all you need to know is that this is the old trick of changing the definition of a word. If you can extend the definition of "abuse", you can then say that 1000s of guys are abusing their women. This makes it sound like all those men are beating up their partners. The same trick is when they accuse someone of "misogyny" and then claim they were just talking about "sexism" They use the word knowing that the word carries connotations of the old meaning: "hatred of women" It's dishonest langua…
/r/MensRights20/01/14 12:55 AM
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Thanks, I guessed it might be manwomanmyth, but had been too busy to check
/r/MensRights09/07/13 05:37 PM
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There was quite a good Youtube video (I think made by a Brit) about this phenomenon where news channels will report that "firefighters/soldiers were killed" if victims of some tragedy were men, but will explicitly say "Women were killed" otherwise. Weird policy. Will post the video url an update here if I find it
/r/MensRights02/07/13 06:33 PM
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Not sure what Kerr means about an Alpha female, but I suppose it is the "Have it all" (family/husband/career) and "not needing men" attitudes. Maybe also some women she knows feel they have to be "the boss" in a relationship - not a good start for any partnership if it's going to last. Kerr does seem to have it all, bouncing back & looking beautiful weeks after having a baby. But I think it's an unrealistic aim for anyone. And saying "I don't need a man" sounds desperate and resentful. I've know…
/r/MensRights24/06/13 09:25 AM
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This one is nice, just an ordinary woman who can think for herself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMVx0DjD3ck There was a student from California called Marina who did some extraordinary YT videos*, often based on the work of Warren Farrell. One video was a reading of unpleasant feminist quotes: "all heterosexual intercourse is rape", "men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes benefit from the experience" etcetc. It went on for 7 minutes... Anyone else remember these? She took down all…
/r/MensRights05/06/13 08:12 PM
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Yep. Also If people say this and go unchallenged, the fact is that they will then get 10 times as confident in talking this kind of rubbish. If you challenge them to explain why, then their self-doubt kicks in (which it may not do otherwise - I don't think staying silent works. We've tried that!)
/r/MensRights05/06/13 08:54 AM
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Yeah I think my online style is to try and stay as rational as possible. I do occasionally slip into irritation and once in a long while some shocking sarcasm emerges :) Being agreeable and saying "I know, sure" and then making your point doesn't seem to work with feminists. Or maybe I'm just not very good at it, heh But yeah if the argument gets angry people a) listen less, and b) have an excuse to write you off as unhinged - which those in gender politics love to do. They can stop thinking the…
/r/MensRights05/06/13 08:43 AM
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"but am rarely given the opportunity to express views in class/through research without being called a rape apologist" Run-of-the-mill feminist tactics. The important thing for them is to win every point, not whether their arguments are fair or rational. I doubt they'll stop if they achieve all their current aims. For feminism to continue to exist, I imagine it will invent new goals and try to exert more control over men. "There is a ridiculous amount of literature generated by the feminist camp…
/r/MensRights05/06/13 03:51 AM
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"I don't have a problem with consent desisting during active intercourse" Well there is the Assange case as you mentioned (and where it seems the woman went to a party with him afterwards and they remained friends - weird case), the one I mentioned (where consent was apparently deemed to have been withdrawn afterwards) and there is the situation where a woman says "stop" 2 seconds before orgasm. It's hard to make a single law fit all these different cases, and by your reasoning the last one is p…
/r/MensRights04/06/13 08:15 PM
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There was a case, here in the UK, involving a man and wife who had intercourse after she'd requested he withdraw before the end - as she didn't want another pregnancy. Slightly ineffective method of contraception...never mind! The husband didn't withdraw, and she became pregnant again. She successfully accused him of rape, after a legal ruling. The ruling was that her consent to sex was dependent on his withdrawing, so consent was "withdrawn" when he didn't. Complete nonsense, but we might wonde…
/r/MensRights03/06/13 06:31 PM
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How she patronises everyone for patronising others - a small minority of people - by using words and phrases that make no difference to anyone's lives anywhere. But the words aren't the point. We know the words and even the "differently abled" people aren't the point. The important point is the ability to control what other people say and think. These young feminists in the UK are addicted to this*. They dimly sense the possibilities of power it gives them, and they want more and more of it.. *n…
/r/MensRights03/06/13 09:58 AM
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