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Yea... I'm not even gon a bother, learn to read and understand and you might be worth talking to
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:43 PM
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Which doesn't make you desperate. Begging for sex does, but simply approaching a woman for sex doesn't make you desperate. So, that's a what, 1/10 for reading comprehension? Try again Though one can take your argument/logic here that approaching women makes you desperate either way. I just demonstrated why this is false. You are ignoring the point. What point am I supposed to be ignoring? The one I just demonstrated to be rediculous? Just do a search for "where have the good men gone" or "men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:09 PM
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How does it make them look desperate. If you go to a gathering, and spend the whole time trying to get girls to sleep with you, it seems like the only purpose for going was to get girls to sleep with you If you spend all the time and energy to go to one of these things, and spend the whole time begging for sex...it seems fairly desperate. But being creepy at this point is simply a man approaching a woman. I've approached women plenty of times without being creepy. I'd wager that 90% of men have.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:38 PM
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Probably because it makes one seem desperate. But given how subjective "creep" is, I wouldn't necessarily expect the rules to be particularly onjective
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:09 AM
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What do men and women genuinely get wrong about one another both here and in real life? Here men seem to get basically everything wrong about women. In real life the biggest thing seems to be women way overestimating how obvious they are being about liking guys. And guys seem to be massively underestimating how much women enjoy sex. Are we really that awful to one another? Generally no What makes someone a creep? 4 things. 1) only approaching women, and obviously only for sex 2) taking no care o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 10:41 PM
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Put out or get out is never appropriate. Because being directly confrontational in a relationship like that is a terrible idea, if your relationship has regressed to the point where you are delivering ultimatums, you should have left that relationship a long time ago, and if you didnt see the signs, you should still leave now, but without the confrontation. If they ask why you left, simply tell them that you where sexually incompatible and move on. That said, you should be able to talk about thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 03:06 AM
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Yes, we established that watching you flail doesnt really count as bullying
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:47 AM
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That really is the best you can manage isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:23 PM
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I suppose sitting here watching you embarrassing yourself isn't really bullying. I still feel bad tho. Edit: It's like watching a kid flail around trying to take down an adult, it's vaguely embarrassing to watch, and you feel bad for the kid. But the adult isn't really bullying them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 04:41 PM
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Well, this is starting to feel like I'm bullying you, dunno if I'm there yet. I mean, you so far have been trying desperately to convince yourself, and then resorted to the worlds easiest to see through attempt to claim victory. Either your feeling desperate, or that really is your normal tactic... Either way I almost feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:53 PM
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Lol, no. This is one of those schoolyard moments where my friends tell me to stop bullying the retarded kid because he is doing the best he can. Edit: Actually, it would probably be the teacher telling me that, kids are assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:12 AM
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1) No. Some people (men or women) have a red for validation and attention. 2) No. Very very few women of the total population are posting pictures of themselves on TikTok or Twitter or w/e like that. More men follow them than women post, probably by a lot. 2a) No. Nothing about it is harmful in general. I'm sure it's harmful to some people, but not in general. This is kinda like gambling, most people manage to gamble a little money here or there without it being a problem, some people get addict…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:28 PM
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Yeah, zero points other than the literal definition. I asked for why, not what. It's right there in the definition. But we'll, I figured this was a waste of time so meh. I said why do you need it in 2021, not in the 20th century when feminism began Because of people like you probably. Please understand these subjects on a deeper level before drawing and spreading conclusion You know...I can't say anything here that makes my point better than you just did.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:18 PM
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Soo, im still not sure. Is this supposed to be satire or are people really this dumb?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:50 AM
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>Nobody needs to convince anybody of anything. >Hypergamy is real, alive and well and only those who are desperate to veil it and hide it are having the problem. Sure sounds like your desperately trying to convince yourself honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:49 AM
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Do conservatives really think like this or is his supposed to be satire?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:22 AM
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Lol. Sure man, if that's what you need to believe It's worth noting tho, if you really wanna convince people, this comic isn't the way to go. This one just makes people laugh at you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:14 AM
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It's not really. Youlaid out exactly how it happened in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:35 PM
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Basically showing that hypergamy is laughable as a hypothesis?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:29 PM
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... Now look at the red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:50 PM
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OK, why is she your friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:28 PM
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>Women and employers deserve what they get if they're hiring someone less qualified that was just going through the motions and checking boxes to get the job. Perhaps unsurprisingly, they do get what they deserve. Just not what you think they deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:28 PM
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Isnt this whole post about how incells dont fit the unattractive stereotype?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:27 PM
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"affirmative action, in the United States, an active effort to improve employment or educational opportunities for members of minority groups and for women. Affirmative action began as a government remedy to the effects of long-standing discrimination against such groups and has consisted of policies, programs, and procedures that give limited preferences to minorities and women in job hiring, admission to institutions of higher education, the awarding of government contracts, and other social b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:22 PM
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True, but its a lot more likely that somebody who has had lots of sex is better at sex than a virgin, or somebody who has had 1 partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:19 PM
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To sum up, you think it's enough to increase physical attractiveness and try a lot. It's the minimum that will get some results yes. In my opinion, increasing attractiveness is not that possible. It's fairly simple, but it takes constant effort, you have to work on it every day, evey meal, every time your tempted to have another cookie. Simple, but that doesn't make it easy. . Also, there is a component of interaction - call it charisma, speech skills, gift of gab - whatever that makes you "inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:18 PM
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You stated it does not help ugly people. If you countinue, you'll find more exceptions. No, I said it would take most people into the top 30% or so. It will still help somebody who was just born really ugly, but it won't take them as high as somebody who was average. I think because they lack charisma and physical attractiveness, so they cannot get to a stage where they can show their qualities of a partner. Charisma really isn't required, sure if your naturally charismatic you could have a whol…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 03:20 PM
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I think the top left is without makeup? But regardless, thats far and away the most attractive picture (to me at least). Edit, for number 1 since I didnt realize there where multiple
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:04 AM
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>Sexual and Romantic Relationships >I think this has been debated and reasoned ad nauseum on this subreddit Reasoned is a really really strong word for what typically goes on here. Its certainly been screamed at us enough anyways. >Academic and Career Progression >Affirmative Action and Diversity Quotas that actively discriminate against men more qualified than said women This is a very specific wording, and its really really disingenuous. I know you wont, but you might want to look at the why o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:01 AM
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So this might sound crazy. But some people are actually in relationships because they love the other person
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:45 AM
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Its not...except that you get a fair amount of benefits from marriage. Tax benefits, legal benefits (Like your spouse automatically being allowed into your hospital room) etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:43 AM
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>The majority of men are disgusted by a woman who has slept around and wouldn't want a relationship with her. Lol, not even close. I much prefer a partner who is good at sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:34 AM
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I listen to breaking points, fox news is garbage. Yes here you sit, parroting them...funny that. Funny how you claim false equivalencies https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence Yes, because it obviously is a false equivalence to compare Biden and the Traitor in chief. yet you can't understand your own biases/ fallacious arguments Bias is "prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person, or group compared with another, usually in a way considered to be unfair." Sorry, but it doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:59 PM
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I was probably being too kind to Agolf Twitler, but i wasnt being that kind to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:16 PM
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"Arguably" in that if you only listen to fox news and make sure you never actually deal with reality, you can maby kinda convince yourself that he might be worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:15 PM
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False equivalency. Biden isnt ideal, but comparing him to Cadet Bone Spurs is laughable at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:51 PM
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Its so that somebody like trump can keep paying for prostitutes with his daddies money. They dont want to lose the comfortable lifestyle, so they take over the government and use it to funnel money to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:37 PM
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They are viable, and already exist in several places. Host clubs in Japan are basically brothels, and many of them are full of men for women. Nevada has a working male brothel, it mostly services gay men, but has at least one male prostitute for women (and several of its for men male prostitutes' are bi and will go either way). Switzerland doesnt tend towards brothels, but there are male prostitutes who only services female clients, if the internet wasnt so much easier, a brothel probably would …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:16 PM
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So do them all a favor and stop being around them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:50 PM
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Disagree. I like to come here to laugh at redpillers as a way to decompress from work. Play videogames, play with my cats, or laugh at people online. Takes 0 effort from me more or less, so its a great way to just get some energy back.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:38 PM
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Why is it that all the people who complain about "safe spaces" are the ones that are so desperate to make them for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:59 PM
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The only people I see who avoid ciriticizing islam is yall qaeda... For what should be obvious reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:57 PM
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I dunno, most of the guys on here seem to have managed
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:46 PM
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We dont need to. We get dates and have fun on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:10 PM
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"Legal"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:46 PM
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I dunno, most half of the country watches fox news punch down constantly and they seem to enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:24 PM
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Well, I guess they are never gonna be attracted to you. May as well give up and be alone forever
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:21 PM
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Because you guys arent holding up your end. As soon as somebody replies its all butthurt and going down like the hindenberg. Thats boring
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:06 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/agaioj/why\_gillette\_ad\_hate\_men/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:03 AM
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>Because they don't need to Because they absolutely dont want the advice of most of the men in this sub, since most of the men here are the kinds of men they are actively trying to avoid. /r/relationships and /r/sex get women asking all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:53 AM
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>May be most people don't, I don't know most people. I point out the cases in which it doesn't help. Your advice would help a guy who is attractive physically, but dirty. It won't help everyone, because no amount of soap will make an ugly face pretty. Sure, if somebody looks like the wicked witch of the west nothing is gonna help, very very few people are. My advice helps anybody who actually follows it, instead of just saying they do. >On the contrary, I know guys who are exceptional friends, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:36 AM
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>Nothing is further from the truth lol Really? Thje guy saying that men are shamed for literally anything that is not serving women doesnt have a victim complex? Really? lol >Not at all, but it's ok. Not the first time you don't understand something Buddy, your argument was to give me something to google, i googled it and read the first thng that came up that seemed even remotely connected. >and make claims based on partial information Projecting much? >My time is better spent on the few "sharpe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:22 AM
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>We are shamed for literally anything that is not in some way serving women. Victim complex much? Seriously, you sound like the christians trying to claim that saying "happy holidays" is an attack on Christmas. >My bad. YouTube: Blu Jasmine Your argument for men being expected to pay for dates...is an instagram model? Who is claiming that some rapper paid her for sex? Im honestly not sure if thats better or worse than the comedy movie
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:35 AM
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Oh thats simple enough. What he said was obvious, so obvious in fact that it clearly wasnt what he was about. Kinda like how nobody feels the need to post about how running makes you tired. There was clearly some other intent that nobody seems to understand
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:18 AM
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>The point is, he is well in his rights to walk away, and shouldn't be shamed for it, yet it happens all the time. When guys are shamed for breaking up? >Wrong. Google: Blue Jasmin... Your source is a comedy movie? That says rather a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:17 AM
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No I didnt. I said the incell movement became concerning when it produced a terrorist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:15 AM
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I did. Nobody seems to have any idea. More specifically, there seem to be like 15 different opinions, and all are contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:38 AM
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>Thanks for this very exhaustive list, but every person I know does this. I can't imagine that someone doesn't brush teeth every day. Still, that does not make guys I know very popular. So I'd say a lot more depends on the physical appearance than on these procedures, because everybody does them. Most people dont. Lots of people say they do these things, but they dont really. Going to supercuts and then washing your hair every day isnt the same as getting a good haircut. Going to the gym and sit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:37 AM
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Yes, prostitution should be legal and regulated everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:08 AM
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Pretty sure nobody actually understood what OP is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:56 AM
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>It is perfectly reasonable to assume full control to her over her body and say, no matter of the circumstances, no one is owed sex. On the flip side though, it is not less reasonable to assume full control to him over his time, money and attention. ok >So let's say, if he doesn't get laid after date "X" it's cool if he withdraws his attention, resources and goes to the next. Yes > In fact i would argue, that men shouldn't be expected to pay for more then a coffee on the first few dates. Probabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:54 AM
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Its telling that this is the kind of idiocy you have to believe in to be red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:49 AM
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If your dumb enough to think the bible is true, your probably dumb enough to think this meme reflects reality
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 11:33 PM
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It's about as accurate as the Bible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 10:13 PM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 10:11 PM
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So, it's not concerning that incels went on shooting stores because women are also capable of murder? That's...a hot take
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 09:24 PM
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As I observed, attractive people usually don't put that much effort into being attractive. You say to put effort like there is a course like being attractive 101. But I think its more difficult than to learn math for example. Most of us actually do, it just doesn't look like we go because it's just part of our routine. The basics are really not that difficult. Go to a salon and get a good haircut, style your hair every day. Shave (or trim) your facial hair so that it looks neat, ask around to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 06:57 PM
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Ok? Is there a point?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:47 PM
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Man, you really need to find some new places to meet people. Do you only go to golddigger.com or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:47 PM
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No, those are the guys egging on the guys killing people
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:45 PM
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Or you can sit there and be bitter and watch the rest of us have relationships. It's your call
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:44 PM
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It's not just the guys who actually go shoot people. It's the people venerating them, the people telling them it's all the women's fault, the whole microchasm that produced them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:44 PM
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Dating apps take no effort unless you out effort in. Anybody can put a picture up and just say yes to everybody, that doesn't take effort. 100% yes. Why would this not be true? Why would it be true? Unless you mean that she and the guy aren’t similarly picky. If the two are similarly picky, and similarly attractive, they probably get about the same number of people they are actually interested in. The girl just has to wade through a lot more shit to find the corn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:38 PM
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Sure, dating apps take no effort. Now, if you take two equally attractive people who put in the same effort, do you think the chick is gonna get significantly more attention from people she wants to sleep with? (Than the guy from people he wants to sleep with?)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:19 AM
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Except all the guys doing literally that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:08 AM
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Eh, perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:07 AM
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It started being concerning when blaming women turned into murdering them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 03:25 AM
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Men arent willing to put in any work to make themselves attractive, physically or emotionally. But since they are not competing against those who are, they lose. And they find it easier to blame women for choosing not to sleep with them than they do to actually work on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 12:55 AM
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Depends on who you listen to and what they care about. A lot of men don't even consider any osy who isn't hot, and more or less the only criteria they seem to think about is how much work they have to put in to sleep with a hot chick, and what it will cost them make sure said girl doesn't sleep with anybody else. They never talk about girls they don't find hot because they don't care about them, and they don't care about the other flaws because if they aren't stopping the guy from getting sex , …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 09:57 PM
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It's incredibly telling that the best you can manage is to take a comment so hilariously out of context. But I guess I shouldn't really expect any better To help you out (since reading more than 2 sentences at a time seems to be beyond you). People dont date to secure a long term commitment. Most people date to find somebody they want to build a life with, and to find somebody who wants to build a life with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:30 AM
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They dont. Women arent trying to secure a long term commitment from somebody they dont like. Some women date to find a long term partner, that is, they want to find/buid a good relationship and then make it last. Some women date 6 dudes at the same time Some women go on dates and have sex without any interest in finding a long term partner. No Women date with the intention of securing a long term commitment from a man. And they definitely dont do it regardless of the quality of said relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 04:54 AM
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Why is what her intention?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 10:56 PM
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Probably because somebody agreed with it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 07:31 PM
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>I ask because some girls do a 'catch and release' style of dating where they get together with good looking guys and have fun and become friends, and then just drift apart until she finds another man that she fancies. The so-called serial daters. You mean...she gets into a relationship, and then decides its not for her? >But the majority of women prefer to get devotion and dedication out of a man with the intention of getting a life long commitment out of him. Why is this? Doesn't it make it a …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 05:57 AM
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I setup my friend that way. A friend of mine and I worked together to get her and 3 of her single friends going to the renfair with me and 3 of my single friends. Only one relationship came of up, but they are going strong 3 years later. Ive also been setup on a date by a friend before, it ended up not working out since we are pretty significantly different in a lot of ways, but the date was amicable enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 03:49 AM
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Some are. Some started out attractive / attracted to each other and got fat together. Some are attracted to people, a physical attraction only lasts for so long, after a while it needs to be supported by an emotional attraction or it wont last, some people go with an emotional attraction even without a physical one. Some people really really care about the face, but dont really mind if a cute face is attached to a fat body. Some people like big boobs, and dont really care that the big books are …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 06:41 PM
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I think a woman is worth more than a vagina. As an easy one
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 05:48 AM
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Except in all the ways it isnt
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 03:18 AM
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No, I definitely dont
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:54 AM
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>You don’t really see a lot of women drooling over athletes though, they’re mostly into actors or musicians. Honestly, you dont see a lot of women drooling over anybody. But its not like most of those actors or magicians arent also in great shape, like hemsworth might be an actor not an athlete, but hes still pretty ripped. >Some uggo with a 6 pack is going to get less girls than an average guy who got plastic surgery to look better. Sure, but an average guy with a 6pack probably does as well as…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 10:26 PM
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you know, that actually makes a lot of sense, as long as she has no other options she kinda has to put up with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 10:23 PM
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Sure thing man. Even assuming the story is true. Im sure it had nothing to do with the fact that you had her family investigated and then told her to deal with it... It was 100% because your just so awesome that she just had to stay with you despite your massive violation of her trust and boundaries...totally no other reason at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 08:48 PM
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And you wonder why people think red pills are fucked in the head. I mean, nobody actually believes you, but the fact that you think this is a believable story is just so messed up. Edit: It seems nobody actually believes you, so I removed that edit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:13 PM
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Wow, thats creepy as fuck. I guess if she was happy with it then good for you tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:01 PM
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Here is the problem, your on a sub with a bunch of redpillers who think a womens only value is as a vagina. No, the rest of us are gonna have differing opinions, I dont think its wrong to want to wait, but I also enjoy sex, and enjoy the intimacies that comes from it. If I think a relationship is gonna be sexless for months, im not really interested. That said, there are guys who want to wait for marriage too, so if woman wants to wait, she should find a guy who wants to wait. The problem comes …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:00 PM
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Somebody who is fat, im not looking for perfectly toned legs from everybody, I carry a bit of extra weight too. But if she is more than that, im not interested. Conservative, or religious. Somebody who is that disconnected with reality is somebody im not interested in. Finally, rude to staff. If somebody is constantly rude to wait staff for no better reason than that they can be, they arent the kind of person im interested in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:43 PM
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The problem is that you are conflating the actions of a few people with those of the rest. Lets assume that 1% of the women in the world want to marry for money. In LA, thats still approximately 20,000 women who want to marry / fuck for money. Lets further assume that you only care about the hot ones (lets say, 10%). Thats still 4,000 hot chicks in LA alone who want to marry / fuck for money. If we expand our search (same parameters) to the US in general. Thats 300 thousand woman (Give or take).…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:35 PM
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The rest of the argument is fine. If you dont want kids, dont have kids. It doesn't hurt anybody else. If you dont think people would get abortions, dont get an abortion. And let everybody else do with themselves as they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:06 AM
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The bible belt disagrees with you there
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 02:07 AM
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Why do people always try to shoehorn guns into this discussion? Seriously, it just makes the whole argument terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 01:20 AM
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Yep, and If your trapped in a shitty relationship, it takes very little to be a temptation
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 07:29 PM
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Lol, no they won't
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 07:23 PM
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Pretty sure it started as what it is, just now with more outward hatred
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 07:23 PM
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So people like to say it started as honest self-improvement for men. I find that...iffy at best since a lot of the self-improvement has been some legitimately toxic nonsense. That said, as it is now its just pure garbage, you can go hunting through its giant pile of shit for the few random kernels of corn (I think I saw one person with actually good advice from RP? Might have a sad failed attempt to satirize femensists tho, my memory of the event isnt all that good.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:13 AM
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Have a conversation about it, if nothing changes, find a different relationship. Dont drop hints, just sit down and have a talk about it. I dont really plan to get married, its not something I advertise, but its not something I hide either, I just dont see the point (I guess the tax benefits?) If I was dating a girl for 4 or 5 years, and she wanted to get maried, id have a conversation with her about it. If she had unrealistic expectations, id have to bring those down. If she thought it would be…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 03:17 AM
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People arent exactly thinking rationally about this....or anything in general tbh. Cheating is rarely a rational choice, most of the time its done out of helplessness. (Sometimes the person cheating is just a selfish asshole)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 01:48 AM
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>Can't speak for every man, but for some of us, it's not about feeling threatened or insecure. It's just not a turn-on. Sure, everybody has their own preferences >If I'm not physically attracted to a woman, no amount of wealth, status or boss attitude will make me want her. Sure, this works for anything tho, if im not attracted to somebody, nothing is going to make me be attracted to them. But if I am attracted to somebody, then if they are successful and wealthy id be far more interested in get…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:10 AM
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>In this case, "Blue Pill" = having strong beliefs that don't actually align with reality. This would be red pill >I'll go first; women believing that being a dominant, boss chick with a high-level of career success, makes them more attractive to men is a blue pill mentality. Definitely makes them more attractive to me, but I understand that this would be threatening to some men. I doubt many of them care if it makes them more attractive to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:10 AM
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Neither. People are gonna cheat regardless, im not surprised that women cheat more given what the men on this sub keep telling me about sex and relationships are supposed to work, but that doesnt really change much. If you dont trust your partner, why are they your partner? If you trust them and they cheat on you, why are they still your partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 03:17 AM
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If money, looks, status arent what attracts women like blue pillers would have you believe than what does? Starting out with a strawman isn't a great strategy tbh. No body says these things aren't attractive, Edit: Well I've heard red pills say this, but usually it's mixed in with so much whining that I ignore it. People say that these things matter to different people in differing amounts, and that there are other things that also matter. As an aside, it's not these things that are generally at…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 10:29 PM
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Beauty + sexual past strongly correlated with reproductive viability and health. Is that really all you look for in a partner? Them being beautiful and fertile? . I don’t get why people have a hard time getting this, men trade a commitment of peak productivity for a commitment of peak reproductive access. Nobody has a hard time understanding that. What we have a hard time with is wrapping our heads around the idea of marrying somebody soley because she is young and beautiful. I mean, intellectua…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 09:34 PM
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Its an absurd generalization based on a massive simplification of a small handful of people. Effectively, useless except in a very few edge cases. Its true in that both men and women are thinking of the others past and future, because those are part of what make up a person. But the emphasis and the way its written are intended to imply (or in your case, specifically state) that women are interested only in a mans earning potential, and that a man is interested only in a woman's weight/physical …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 07:05 PM
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Intelligent, well educated, and self-determinate. All of these are seen as flaws for women by a lot of men. I cant understand why.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 03:32 AM
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The short answer, is that as long as they can make the consequences your problem, they dont care. Its indicative of the mindset of some men where relationships or interactions with women is all a game to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 11:46 PM
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Fantastic. That's great, I'm glad for you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 01:59 AM
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No, that was your assumption. But you did prove it, so congrats. You win
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:44 PM
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Lol, nah. I only sleep with women I find attractive, but they aren't all perfect. But I'm bored trying to help. I guess you just don't got it, may as well stop trying and just be lonely forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 07:48 PM
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Sure buddy, Whatever helps you sleep at night
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:06 PM
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I mean sure. Generally speaking tho, so do men. Pretty much all relationships start the same way There is enough mutual attraction to get you to the talking to each other phase. Managing a relationship past that point should be more about emotional connection. Now, I don't doubt that there are men who pursue a relationship and stay in that relationship just for sex, just as I don't doubt there are women that do the same thing. (Or for money, power, or other personal gain). People being people, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:20 PM
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>The point I'm making here is backed by the vast majority of the psychological literature and data. People keep saying this, nobody has ever demonstrated it to be true. >In virtually every experiment, appearance is weighted more heavily by men relative to other considerations when determining attraction than is the case with women. Really? Virtually every experiment? >Nevertheless, I fail to see how understanding this basic reality of psychology is useless. "basic reality" that you have to resor…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:06 AM
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>Non-physical characteristics are more important to women relative to physical ones IN COMPARISON to men, who are all about looks. There is no generalization you can make about men/women that is this broad that would be useful (in this context).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:52 AM
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How am I blaming women ? "I cant get laid because girls are just too shallow and only want to bang hot guys or thugs." Ofc, it couldnt possibly be something you did, its just that women wont give you a chance right? It's not like I could turn my self into a hot blonde guy or into a thug This, this right here. Thinking that the only way to get laid is being a hot guy or a thug is why you cant get laid. Work on yourself, its not that hard to make yourself more attractive, it is hard to manage to n…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:48 AM
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>I’m just curious. I always hear that women focus more on emotional attraction than physical attraction and it’s made me curious. Not sure who told you this...its bullshit >Do most women genuinely find their partners physically attracted? Most women arent gonna want to sleep with somebody they dont find attractive. Obviously you have sugar babies and the like, but those are actually pretty rare overall. >To me it’s seeming like women just don’t find their partners sexually attractive and they ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 04:35 AM
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>Lmao don't think they are shallow they just aren't into me cause I'm not tall or handsome lmao. You just said "I dont think their shallow, I just think their shallow" But im bored of this whole convo, you wanna keep not getting laid and blaming women for your insufficiency, you do that. Ill keep getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 04:30 AM
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Obviously not. If your hygienic, do your grooming every day, approach women politely, and don't get desperate / pressure them. It's really not that hard to get results. Ofc, if you lead with "women are shallow and are only interested in money, and that's why they won't date me" you probably won't get results
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 04:06 AM
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Being a not particularly attractive guy who's doing fairly well, it's not all in how attractive you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 03:35 AM
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Obviously you haven't been doing that then. I'm gonna guess your messing it up at stage 2 or 3
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 01:56 AM
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Its kinda telling that your best evidence for women being hardwired to seek men who dont cry is a couple of screenshots that are almost certainly taken out of context at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 04:31 PM
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Jesus, is this really what passes for advice nowadays? You wanna know how to get women. 1) Put in the minor amount of work to make yourself more attractive, buy clothes that fit, get a nice haircut and do your grooming every day, wear deodorant. 2) Go into situations looking for friends not dates. 3) Ask women nicely, in a non-pressure way. 4) When they say no, or seem unsure, stop asking and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 03:11 AM
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I've banged more than one single mother who wasn't looking for a father for her kid. Granted, I wasn't dating either, but dating is such a loaded word I generally avoid it at all costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 01:44 PM
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And those behaviors are: ? Coming from: ? Violence, emotional repression, excessive devotion to work, Aggression Just off the top of my head. But of course how could i forget. It's all social conditioning.. There is no difference whatsoever in boys and girls.. Argument in bad faith Masculinity is equivalent to being a man to "common" people, uneducated in social studies. Yes, thats why Toxic Masculinity is specifically different from masculinity... Actually yes. IM sorry, but repeating the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 02:37 AM
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>>Yes, we take issue with it because the solution that most men propose to these problems is “women, fuck us (more)” >Strawman... this isn't the solution, isn't suggest, and only used by women to dismiss male problems (aka the whole point of this thread). >Nice of you to prove his point though... May I point you to just a little higher up in this thread. "But these behaviour in males have evolved to be those which attract females. Females LOVE stoic men. (a) Stoic men are not whining and (b) Sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 12:56 AM
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>The issue is "toxic masculinity". I assume (and do correct me if i am wrong) that not many people really know what exactly the term refers to. Even if we do know, my problem is, that the term automatically assumes, that the problem is with masculinity, or some part of it, which is not true at all. The problem is with behaviors typically considered to be masculine. Sure, if you redefine gardening to be a masculine behavior, there is nothing toxic about it, but thats also not an argument in good …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 12:51 AM
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You said that many women say this about the original post, which said that Leftists think that Women with few if any prior partners are more likely to cheat. That's not what you have now changed to saying And your right, it was the original post that was deleted, you were defending it, but not the op, my bad
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 08:15 PM
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Sorry the op you were quoting was deleted, thought it was the same person. A straw man is when you make up an argument, and assign it to somebody else because you think it's an easy to beat argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 08:13 PM
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What makes it a straw man is that they aren't saying what you said they said. I get that you deleted your original post to try and change what you said...but we are about as likely to believe that as we are your original strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 04:32 PM
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So just because the person sounds the way she sounds it's now a straw man or not plausible? You uhh, don't really get what a straw man is do you? In case you missunderstood, my point was many people think the number of past partners or promiscuity doesn't make a woman more likely to cheat, Ah, no that wasn't what you said. To be more specific, you said that left wingers think that women with fewers partners are more likely to cheat. You original post was deleted ofc, I'm sure that was totally an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 04:31 PM
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The first response that says that how many prior partners a woman has had...has no impact on if she will cheat of not? You can't even find one bad source, to back up your claim that "dozens" of people say what you think they say. If your gonna try a straw man, and least make something up that's even sort of plausible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 01:13 PM
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This is a totally bullshit argument. Not because its trying to borrow from something that isnt real, Natural Selection is a thing. But because the question mostly betrays a deep misunderstand about how natural selection works. The idea that Natural Selection has anything to do with how we pick mates is absurd. Human society is changing at an absurd rate, and natural selection is really really fucking slow. Natural Selection is still trying to have people grow wisdom teeth, and thinks having mass…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 03:24 AM
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>Just don't believe me. Yea, im pretty sure this is the most common reaction
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 03:10 AM
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That quote is about as stupid as it gets tbh. I (a man) absolutely want to be desired, I put in a decent amount of effort for my appearance because I want to desired. Women are made uncomfortable by men who won't stop chasing them, I've asked and been rejected by women plenty of times, I was polite about it, and moved the fuck on, I'm still friends with some of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 02:00 PM
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It's often required. My mom isn't looking for a man's attention, and she wears makeup every day because it's part of the look required for her job. Or Themselves. Some women enjoy wearing makeup, they like how they look with it on. And some I'm sure, wear makeup to be attractive to men. But note, that wanting attention isn't the important part, it's the "only" in there that's the important part, turns out that woman are every bit as complex and capable of wanting more than 1 thing as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 06:37 PM
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It's repeated so often because it makes it easy. It's easier to engage with a stereotype than to engage with a person, or to say that "women just want attention" to explain why a guy can't get anybody to have sex with them. Or for a woman to say "men only want sex" to explain why they are having trouble connecting emotionally to somebody. Plus it gives people a framework where they know the moves. For movies and shows especially, it makes for very easy drama or comedy or what have you. Everybody…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:42 PM
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