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We never will. Life is a competition at the end of the day, and no one competes against other men harder than men themselves. I almost find it impossible that men one day will start feeling sorry for their competition. It’s likely rooted in biology, if there was 1 man left on the planet our species can continue, 1 woman left and we’re likely finished.
/r/MensRights19/03/26 09:07 PM
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It's promotion on steroids. The negative perspective on the manosphere has existed for years, however there's potential footfall everyday, a platform as huge as netflix, has now more people introduced to the manosphere.
/r/MensRights12/03/26 11:03 AM
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So you want to argue rather than find a middle ground. You were trying to rationalise why men typically divorce less in both heterosexual couples and non-heterosexual, I essentially said when people are honest with each other and understand each other's wants they'll be less likely; to not only split, but get into relationships that are incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 01:26 AM
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Nailed it fella.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:53 PM
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You're clearly unaware of the amount of approaches women get in modernity. The average man doesn't have the same pull as the average woman, you have a warped view of reality, and you will learn but gradually & painfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:49 PM
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Everyone is much more educated but are more idealistic about what they want. Idealism isn't the same as pragmatism. The best we can do is just be honest. We don't like women more sexually experienced, but also at the same time women don't want lower quality or incompetent men. It's the honest truth. Maybe that could be the axiom we begin with. Instead of trying to change what the other sex wants, accept what they want, and move on from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:40 PM
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It's a form of target practice or security measure for men and women to be friends. Unless the girls is in a relationship already. The reality is though, 9/10 if she asked him for sex he'd say yes, and 9/10 if he asked her for sex she'd say no. That in itself is a disproportionate reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:23 PM
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Women divorce men disproportionately more than men divorce men. Even in same sex couples women divorce higher than the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:47 PM
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Good luck trying to convince them that. The modern woman is cooked, your grandmas didn't grow up with social media, 100 men approaching her left right and center on dating apps or men trying to use her for sex only. In modernity there is now degeneracy/promiscuity on TV, & on commercials. The average chick by 25 has probably been approached by 1000 guys total and slept with 10. That means even the most pious women at that age will likely have 1-2 bodies, so now you're have to date younger all wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:35 PM
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Are you actually refusing to acknowledge history. We literally were a prey species, and through competition with each other & encountering threats men developed technology that made us the apex. Women were there to mate select for men that provided and protected for them, by also collaboratively helping with the security and welfare of the family and children. There is thousands upon thousands of years that led to you being able to sit here and ridicule your own grandfather's and grandmother's, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:26 PM
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After we saved you from all the lions, tigers and bears, and I mean quite literally. The patriarchal system you're talking about has existed for thousands of years, and within it rose the technology and guardrails to give rise to feminism and give people the opportunity to fuck themselves up soo hard they're putting diapers on cats and dogs at 40 years old. Men didn't protect the village for "empowerment", or to dominate women, they did it because it was the rational thing to do in understanding…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 04:35 AM
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The middleclass is the solution to this. Men are always going to be competitive, so losers will always exist, unless you topple society all together into a dystopian sci-fi film, where every single man and woman's problems are accounted for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 04:27 AM
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intelligence and creative gifts to enter a career or the workforce They can do all of that. But that shouldn't be the ONLY thing that women can be. women to be less So you think producing children is less ✓ So you think raising the next generation is less ✓ So you think having a nuclear family is less ✓ So you think reducing poverty, increasing IQ and reducing crime is less (almost half of all pregnancies are by accident so single parenthood is inevitable without a nuclear family or commitment) …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:58 AM
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A lot of movements were rejected by the majority of women, most women by majority were against voting, they were against working. Think about it logically do you think people work because they have to, or because of empowerment. This is the lie that you're not quite understanding. We all work because we have to, should men have the ability to not work, they wouldn't, and the same for women. However since in real life no man will ever get to live his life without working - men never celebrate tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:48 AM
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Stop projecting and use logic please. If you actually read my post then you'll know what it's about. It's about men demanding femininity whilst not being masculine themselves, so the solution is quite obvious. However at the same time, that's not to say women aren't making it any easy as they're also becoming more masculine, which limits their own attraction to men and also limits the amount of women that men can even get. No women are heavily hypergamous with positive assortative mating if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:34 AM
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They won't set up, they're natural since men and women are biologically different. In terms of who it benefits, it benefits the nuclear family which is the backbone of a thriving society, especially one that reduces depression, self deletions, drug use, boosts IQ scores and keeps people out of jail. Just arguing to argue at this point. Nothing you're saying is factual.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:14 AM
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Women don't want a man more feminine than themselves typically. If women are outperforming men in confidence, assertiveness, leadership, education, they're not only going to be less attracted to those men, but will find it difficult to find who are masculine, & also masculine men that went other masculine women. It's a spectrum. I understand women are more masculine today than the past, but not only should this be acknowledged but, men themselves need to be more masculine in order to ensure a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:46 PM
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Nuclear families existed before 1950, so did subatomic particles before they were discovered, so did H2O, so did black holes etc. Who sounds more uneducated now lol, you can't even discern the difference between the nuclear family already existing and an actual finding like an automobile. Since you're frequently incorrect and a proven misogynist to our mothers and grandmothers I'm unfortunately you can't be relied upon to take part in this discussion any further.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:41 PM
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Again calling traditional gender roles/feminine women in derogatory terms. You're the misogynist here. Accept the facts, then you might be able to operate in reality accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:38 PM
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Maybe some sauce will cool you off. I like sauce Burger sauce Chili sauce Garlic mayo sauce
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:36 PM
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The guy demeaning traditional gender roles/feminine genders, which most of our mothers and grandmothers grew up with, with the best of gender roles, prosperous middle class, lower depression, self deletions, lower drug & alcohol use per capita is the one calling them "maid breeders" You're the misogynist here. The best of a woman is to be a woman not a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:35 PM
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Exceptions don't make rules & we're talking about majorities not minorities. Stay in night school buddy, I believe in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:31 PM
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I love ad-hominems from strangers. Shows your intellectual despondency to come up with a rebuttal, and instead are triggered emotionally. So stay triggered and uninformed, all things will be learned with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:27 PM
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Information is information. There maybe women that don't want kids ever, there could be lesbians that take on this information. I'm not telling them what to do, I'm just providing evidence for what is ideal and non-ideal. This post isn't even really about women, it's about men that expect feminity from women when they're not masculine enough to provide and protect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:25 PM
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Ironically you're calling me uneducated without even realising the point of educated is to learn about concepts that developed and won't natural/inherent. Even to this, I'd argue the nuclear family has existed for thousands of years, in tandem with us becoming more civilised. It's always been ideal for stability, and you can't argue otherwise single parent households perform way worse statistically in education, crime, IQ, & lifespan.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:24 PM
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You dig yourself a further hole. If both men and women are more depressed, committing self deletions, taking antidepressants and reporting unhappiness how is that a good thing. Again calling feminine gender roles "servants" and demeaning a woman who keeps her family intact. Think please before you comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:20 PM
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You calling women that raised children within a nuclear family "maid breeders" is in itself misogyny to women themselves. Being a woman isn't just trying to be a man. That in itself is backwards thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:17 PM
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Information is information, people can do what they want with that information. I don't know why the truth has triggered you so much, that you had to comment on like 25 unrelated threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:16 PM
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This is now common sense after the points that I have given you, the fact that I have to use long division to quite simply explain the equivalent of 10÷2 equally 5 is troubling. At the height of feminism: liberal women + empowered women, as per the sources provided; I like sauce Burger sauce Chili sauce Garlic mayo sauce Didn't work. If being liberal, masculine, and empowered was to make you more happy, we should have seen a direct increase in happiness, less self deletions, less depression in m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:57 AM
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I like sauce Burger sauce Chili sauce Garlic mayo sauce
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 07:38 AM
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Well what you said doesn't even make sense, how can someone be happiest when they're oppressed maximally. That's like saying when people are most sad is when they're most happiest. Look: ✓ Self deletions are at their highest amongst women ✓ Depression is at it's highest ✓ Divorces at their highest ✓ Birth rates are their lowest We're clearly not living in a paradise, but within the confides of a relationship, there should be a consensus on what is ideal and what is non-ideal. A woman prioritizin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 07:24 AM
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Both ideally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 07:16 AM
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I dont associate my job with being masculine. I've done my job for years. I dont want to be masculine and im not. Of course you'll say that under the net of his masculinity, like I said masculinity is a spectrum. Two people can be masculine yet one is more masculine than the other. If you were to be around another man less masculine, then I'm sure you'll be able to tell the difference. Yep. In leadership, disagreeable is one the traits, alongside; ✓ Assertive ✓ Dominant ✓ Composed ✓ Critical thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 07:04 AM
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Re-read my whole post again. The entirety of it, is about gender roles being so blurred that both men and women can end up in a relationship without harmony, particularly if there are children involved. Nowadays real misogyny is telling women that the best thing they can ever be is to be a man, whilst demeaning, degrading and cheapening what women did in the past. Work is important, and hard, but raising children is more important and harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 06:48 AM
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In service of the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:38 PM
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We arent being told to empower ourselves into being attracted to a small pool of men. Don't worry I'll explain; When a woman is told within the brackets of empowerment; we're talking about: •Being career orientated (1), • Independent of men (2), • Having her own place & security (3), • Making an above average salary (4), • Becoming educated (5) If women are hypergamous (they date men of the same social economic class or up), or date men within the same education level, whilst completing (1),(2),…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:36 PM
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Yeahh, because we tend to objectify women a lot more than they objectify us - it's simpl biology. Like I have to say again, men and women aren't the same, we can sleep with a woman we don't like if she looks good. Having to deal with someone you don't like long term is another thing. Masculine women tend to be disagreeable, combative, and domineering and blur gender roles in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:24 PM
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Yeah sure, being a protector & provider doesn't require the basic ability to understand how to earn ? Im a very feminine woman but have a good job in a leadership role. It absolutely doesn't mean im masculine because I financially provide for my family Not quite, it's rather a masculine position you're in, especially since if you're in a leadership role, you're going to be more disagreeable than agreeable, if you stay in that position long enough, you will unconsciously transfer those skills int…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:21 PM
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You've went from one extreme to another extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:16 PM
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I like sauce
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:13 PM
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fucking pay us for it So Protection, provision isn't payment. Who said we should pay each other just for simply understanding what is best in order to produce a nuclear family. Things can always go wrong in life, when we drive to work things can go wrong, it's up to the both the people invovle to ensure they try their best to make it work, and up to the woman to vet that the man she's with isn't a psycho. Women absolutely have a safety net, look at divorce court ✓ There's actually a hint of miso…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:09 PM
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They didn't, because gender roles were much more rigid in the past. The past isn't the same as today. Women's employment into industry massively rose during the second world war. You have to look at the entirety of the history.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 11:59 AM
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That's not quite what I said. Read the post again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 11:57 AM
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Makes a lot of sense considering less people are getting married or getting divorced whilst more women are self deleting, reporting depression and unhappiness per capita.. Good one. See how an appeal to authority is just an awful way to form an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 11:52 AM
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If you knew what the middleclass was, then you'd know usually the benchmark for a thriving society and we certainly don't have that now. There were good and bad times in the past, just like there are now. Only difference is that the women who you claim are happy people are deleting themselves and reporting unhappiness at the highest rate per capita.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:21 PM
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The choices don't have to made for you, it's best you make whatever choices but with the full confidence that they're the right choices. We all just have to come to a consensus about what is actually good without dishonesty, and a lot of men would rather not risk their chances of getting sex than be honest. So whenever you do have someone trying to be honest, it falls out of the norm of what is considered politically correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:05 PM
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Yep it goes both ways. I don't agree with men being left to their own devices, they need to spend more time understanding women. I'd say usually if a woman doesn't understand a man the relationship is likely to still work but if a man doesn't understand a woman it's less likely to work, however it would be nice we fully understood each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:57 PM
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Good answer. I'll give you it. Sometimes I get that, whether it's just one person's leverage against another, however I'm going from the historical lense. What worked towards the middle class, what made people happy, and what were the key things that made society thrive without dysfunctional attributes, and that usually entails the nuclear family instead of a pseudo-masculine mimesis by which women are now less happy, &bare self deleting at the highest rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:46 PM
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I've continuously said it's not ideal for a woman to divert her attention away from the children, and within a relationship, masculine and feminine roles have to be in harmony with each other for the health of the relationship and this is especially important for a family. Both men & women create society, one can't exist without the other, and women can always work, the question is whether that'll be to the detriment of the family and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:38 PM
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A woman working after her child baring years makes sense. Take for instance you have an athlete, who wants to to be get their doctorate and open a own school some day. Would it be within their best interest to study for several years, become a professor, whilst working multiple jobs and then become an athlete in their mid 30s, or become an athlete first, and then retire to pursue their dreams later on in their second chapter. That's kind of how I see it, there is many chapters to life, women wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:32 PM
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By every measure, wages have been going up in the US since the 70s. Does inflation ring any bells ? You're really trying to compare whether the boomers had an easier time economically than people in 2025. Go and ask a boomer, and they'll tell you exactly how things were like for them without the inflation we have, with the middle class at it's greatest.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:18 PM
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I agree with most of what you said. However it's not that the women here specifically are masculine, masculinity is a spectrum, there can be two masculine people but one is still more masculine than the other. When it comes to women being masculine, these traits aren't inherent, they're developed over years & years of somewhat mimicking the man they want without realising they're becoming that guy in a woman's body; Masculine women; • Sexually less selective • Domineering attitude • Vocally Loud…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:13 PM
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If man fails to be a provider at ad nauseum for his family, he has failed in his role to be masculine. ✓ Which means he can't be a service to his family. What is ideal is both the man and woman being a service to the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 05:59 PM
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They're so happy that per capita they are self deleting at the highest rate compared to the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 05:57 PM
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You didn't even maintain a consistent point and continued to go off on a range of tangents. If they know so much, then why are they unhappy and are self deleting at a disproportional rate compared to the past ?. It's very simple when it comes to dating they don't know: Women don't know: ✓ They're limiting their pool (just because I've relayed that information rn doesn't mean they knew) [hindsight bias] ✓ They don't know we find masculine traits unattractive but lie in order to get sex ✓ They wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 05:55 PM
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So you're trying to apply your exceptionally awful situation to everyone else. ✓ Most people are going to be a relationship one day ✓ Most women are going to have children one day whether this is by accident or intentional ✓ If they have children it's their imperative to use the tools available to them to make the relationship work and care for the children ✓ If they want to make things work, they need to know what is ideal and what is non-ideal ✓ The Nuclear family with gender roles in a hetero…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:44 PM
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Exceptions don't make the rule.. The millionaire that's a virgin, is a million times more rare than the millionaire that isn't. I wish you well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:35 PM
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Working mothers today spend more time with their children than mothers in the 1950s Read your own sources please, it tries to imply just as much time or adequate time not necessarily more time. The data was taken from a limited sample, most women that aren't working, spend more time with their children, I'm not going to debate the colour of the sky thanks. Just using common sense if a mother is at home instead of working, is she more likely to spend time with the children or less time. You're tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:27 PM
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Where did I say specifically every woman wants to have a kid ? If that's you then that's you. I'd say being a mother and wife is the highest pinnacle a person can be just as being a father and a husband is, this doesn't mean there isn't anything more to us but it does mean it's one of the highest societal ideals we have. We all came from mother's and fathers and are now complaining about the very mechanisms that led to our existence. Think about how selfish that it is. You exist because of your …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:21 PM
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Do I have to tell you the second time money doesn't grow on trees. Most people don't just run into money, to even get a very good job, you have to have shown previous characteristics which showcase competence, leadership and someone worthy of respect. Women already know a lot of these traits are transferrable to a relationship, and at times people in good relationships also tend to have higher incomes. Is there exceptions such as an insufferable person making money yes, however since nice guys d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:14 PM
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A lot of men like the extra income that a high powered professional woman brings If you want to date yourself then be my guest. Traditional heterosexual men aren't into contemporary characteristics from their partners, that's in itself borderline non-heterosexual. Neither are women into guys that have manicures everyday, or spend 3hrs looking at the mirror. Opposites attract, we just went and victimized women for being women so much they want to be like men, but the reality is it takes both a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:08 PM
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So you proceed to explain why you were incorrect. ✓ You said 80s for both female participation & middleclass and were incorrect. ✓ You've attempted to nullify the difference in the capacity they used to work "just didn't have careers" after realising it's massively different from now Ok good on you buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:03 PM
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If you're fed a lie and spend 20 years confused, your life is going to be a lot more chaotic than if you were told the truth. The truth is actually right there, I wrote it in the OP. Women are being told to empower themselves into only being attracted to a very small pool of men, and spend years working to develop masculine traits that aren't attractive to us. Traditionally women were able to live fulfilling lives and also raise a progeny something that will live on after they die and become bon…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:56 PM
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Since money grows on trees
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:49 PM
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Whereas your common sense. This study says this and that study says this; Look: ✓ As women become less married and don't have children, there are more self deletions per capita So are they more happy when they're deleting themselves? We need to stop lying to women and tell them the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:47 PM
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Can a woman express female gender roles without encompassing some femininity ? Femininity is what comes with being within female gender role. Stop trying to redefine terms for what women have been for the most part of history or shaming them for their femininity. The backbone of a thriving society is for the most part the nuclear family, and the nuclear family is compromised of parents which have masculine and feminine traits, both working in service for the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:43 PM
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Yet per capita women are commiting more self deletions than ever. You're actually all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:35 PM
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By your logic, providing for children is to shit all over them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:32 PM
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The middle class peaked in the 1980s right around the same time women workforce participation peaked. Incorrect it was around the late 60s. If you think women in the workforce peaked in the 60s, you're clearly not qualified to talk about this subject. Even before the 1940s it was common for women to work Saying this within the context of this conversation, means by default you're trying to imply it was just as common as it is now. Which is a gross misunderstanding of history, and that misunderst…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:31 PM
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Read the whole post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:24 PM
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Yep that's what I said in the OP, to expect femininity from a woman in the modern era, you need to be a whole lot more masculine, or even more masculine than she is at the least, which means being more competent in security & provision, being more established and seeing things far head before they come which requires ingenuity, hard work, plus years of learning, & critical thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:24 PM
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It's ideal for a woman to be working and dividing her attention away from the kids. Good one pal Go and joke elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:20 PM
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The nuclear family worked just fine, for the people who benefited from women having no legal recourse. Spoiler: not women ✓ Nope. There is more single parents than ever That 40% of men figure isn’t about women dominating men, it’s about powerful men controlling access to resources and women, while the rest were left out. ✓ Nope. 80% of you were able to reproduce and have kids, whilst most men died out, and women know they have that option whenever they want, and we don't. Women gaining education…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:17 PM
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Yep we need to listen to what happy married women say, I'm all ears for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:07 PM
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women are allowed to prioritize their own happiness Checkmate. They're now statistically less happy than they used to be, so no it didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:05 PM
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A higher population can certainly lead to more workers, however it also entails more businesses. This is fairly moot compared to the effect women being the in the workforce had alone, since you have representation of an increased population of men and women coupled together. Unfortunately with the inception of more two income households the middle class has actually been shrinking, nuclear family has reduced. Not saying it can't work, it's simply not ideal. People have two income households beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:03 PM
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If you were fractionally determined it would have been done by now. Nevertheless you're privileged to have that option, historically half of men died fatherless, without such an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:56 PM
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That's not ideal for raising children especially multiple children, I can understand that structure fo couples that don't have children, not one with. Dividing roles in a nuclear family is precisely to emphasize an importance on the children, which can't be achieved to its maximum if attention is drawn elsewhere at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:53 PM
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Rule means the average to represent the majority. Exception means minority that is disanalogus to the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:09 PM
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If you want to talk about how dominant men were ONLY to women in the past then explain why 80% of women were able to reproduce, and only 40% of men were before dying. Furthermore.. Hopefully it doesn't take you multiple years like it does unfortunately for women, to understand that if women are hypergamous or date guys who are the same education, social economic status or background, them increasing in such, limits the pool of men they're attracted to. ✓ This is not the same for us, the more sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:56 PM
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Dude actually thinks he has an I gotcha moment. Premise one: The sky is blue "No I'm asking which part of the sky is blue, you can't say it's all blue" The entirety of workforce has historically been majority men stemming from whenever there was anything such as wages, we can go back hundreds if not thousands of years like I said historically, nowadays the ratio of national employment between men & women is almost 1:1. As for the second part, you have clearly no understanding of basic economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:45 PM
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A woman working, whilst raising children is going to be harder than a woman who isn't working to primarily focus her attention on the management of those kids. That's common sense. Is there an exception where a man is making a woman's life horrible, and making it harder, yes but exceptions don't make the rule. As for the latter, yes that's our biological imperative, we know deep down if we can't perform in life it could lead to us dying fatherless. That's not a fantasy, that's reality. Historica…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:36 PM
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You're trying to say that the number of women employed didn't increase substantially from the past historically ? Or are you saying that more workers doesn't lead to an increase in costs (overheads) thus companies lower wages.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:28 PM
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We're not "better" at anything only because of biology. If our incentive to even get a woman is to be better, then we have to try much harder, and ultimately that leads to results. That's why whenever a woman outperforms a man, it means should there have been any sexual attraction, it all but disappears, whereas it's the opposite for women, and we know this deep down unconsciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:23 PM
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Raising children to be civil & safe is one of the hardest things there is. I think a lot of women overestimate their ability to do the hardest thing possible and be independent of a man completely. Typically men do exceed in a lot of things. However I don't think that's down to innate biology, it's down to incentive. A man is benchmarked on his competence, so whenever there is a chef, or an artist, or a musician they're also thinking "If I a fail I may never father kids", which is why men go the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:19 PM
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Heterosexual men wouldn't since we don't want to date ourselves long term. Yes for a good night, by which we can extract the physical femininity out of her, but long term it'll be a headache to have a mirror of ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:12 PM
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More women in work generally as employment, means the wages could be lowered especially as they counted as overheads.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:10 PM
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So you don't think the masculine role of being a provider to the family, is in itself a service ? Both Masculinity and Femininity is to serve the family, it's how we came to being.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:06 PM
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Nope. If anything is going to serve the other, it's going to be both masculinity and femininity serving the family. Evidently we can see with the collapse of masculinity and femininity within their normative genders, correlating with the degradation of the nuclear family. Now what we see are the consequences of when a man isn't masculine, and when a women isn't feminine, if they don't serve the family, there isn't or will be a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:04 PM
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This is not what femininity is. Or gender roles in general. Like, how hard is it to clean the house? Use stopwatch to track how much time you wash the dishes per day, you'd be surprised. That's precisely what traditional femininity was in the past, especially when men would work and women worked, but they worked domestically at home on making sure the house was in order. The reason why men won't actively engaging in these roles, was in order to work and provide for the family outside domestic du…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:00 PM
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At the bottom of my post, I regarded this also, we're now somewhat competing for that masculinity, just some we can get tinctures of her femininity, and it's working towards the detriment of relationships, since as women get more masculine and successful they tend to want men that are even more masculine and successful, slicing off the majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 11:52 AM
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You're forgetting there can be women with feminine physical attributes, that are masculine in the behavior. Especially now women outcompete men in a lot of areas that were once considered "masculine", it subsequently leaves some of them actually masculine, or even more masculine than some men behaviourally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 11:48 AM
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In heterosexual relationships, the women typically demand some form of masculinity, and vice versa we demand femininity As for the second and third parts, I didn't quite follow • Better than them at everything ? That's nonsensical, if there are gender roles, it means she'll likely be better at her roles than I am at hers, and my roles will be better suited to what I'm good at, that's the nature of the nuclear family. This is the kind of provoking rhetoric that encourages women to want to compete…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 11:43 AM
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Even if a woman inject the 20x of testosterone that they don't have they're also not going to undergo spermatogenesis. I like your point though, but both fertility difference + testosterone differences gives rise to likely enormously higher libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 02:12 AM
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It's not just testosterone, we also have testicles which produce 125 million sperm per day. That's 100x more than a woman can have eggs in her entire life PER DAY. 100x more per day is 700x per week 700x per week is 2800x per month 2800x per month is 33,600 per year 33,600 per year is 336,000 in 10 years. From 20-40 years which are considered peak years for fertility for men and women, we're somewhat 672,000 more fertile than women. Plus 20x more Testosterone Their libido is not comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:35 AM
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That's the way things have always been. It doesn't help if women become less selective does it now. Like I said before you're arguing past what I said and making moot points.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:13 PM
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People have more opportunities than ever but are more depressed than ever. It's irrelevant if people have more more opportunities if they're equally just as scared of rejection, then the very opportunities themselves cancel out. Just the same way if there are more opportunities than ever, but people have: ✓ Instant gratification syndrome ✓ Idealistic (can't stop comparing themselves to others) ✓ Individualistic ✓ Nihilistic ✓ Socially engineered by foreigners to destroy society Then yes there'll…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:01 AM
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What if your mother was unselective and you had 5 different brothers and sisters from 4 dads, would that be better ? You're actually low IQ, someone whose actually arguing against female selectivity whilst complaining about body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:58 AM
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Promiscuity wouldn't exist the same way if does if women were more selective. Which is what I already said I'm for it Obese women also would be less prevalent, since women can't afford to be picky if they're not good looking, so for them to be selective they'd have to meet the standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:55 AM
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Men and women don't reproduce at the same rate. A man is 1000x+ more fertile than a woman. Women only get to reproduce once every 9 months, and before the inception of the science and technology needed for a safe birth, women essentially would be risking their lives each time they gave birth. Hope you're not trying to argue just to argue, since the crux of what I said is that female selectivity is better for our species, are you against female selectivity ? since if you're not, then you're cherr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:50 AM
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Female selectivity is important for our species to mate select healthy offspring and not weak genes. I'm for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:08 PM
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Yep that's what Idealism is. People be out here thinking, what is perfect, is a normality, what is the perfect partner, what is the perfect job, what is the perfect lifestyle, lower your standards, toughen up and realise dreams aren't reality unless you make them so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:38 PM
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I love how people keep using the word "tall" to describe what women want, without realising it statistically means top 20% of men. Then if you say women are into the top 20% of men, then now you're a schizo redpill incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:38 PM
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You're really into this "mindfucking" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:34 PM
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Depends on the guy. Significant sounds like 15-20 year difference. Large is maybe 10. 2-5 years is average. I'd agree with what you've said for 15-20 years but yet again in depends on the guy. Usually with such relationships comes a focal point of hypergamy, since such relationships are outliers, some girls see such men as opportunities. In terms of general preference. It's not about just age, it's really about experience difference, so that gender roles are established with clarity - this comes…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:01 PM
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Yep that's not how the world works. It doesn't give two shits about your potential after a particular age, your resume is all that matters. People just don't have the time to care enough after making face-value judgements.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:54 PM
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LTR - Long term relationship, deals with people looking to maintain a sustainable relationship for the foreseeable future, and are ideally starting it off being exclusive. Now the timespan of this can obviously vary, 3-4 was my estimation, it can even be 2 months or a month and half, maybe even a month, but like I said in the other comment you can only really tell in hindsight whether a relationship was going to be LTR or not. Now the opposite of this is a one night stand, which clearly doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:43 PM
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Yeah, I don’t know a single man in real life who didn’t have multiple sexual partners when he was younger The ones you didn't know, you didn't notice, or ignored, and men overrreport their sexual activity about 1/3 men are virgins or haven't had sex in the past year. With the rise of sexual liberation it's only fair to assume women in future will have more N partners than men. Probably all because of porn, and weak men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:21 PM
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I don’t care. If you’re going to use it as an insult to women, use it as an insult to men if promiscuity is so bad to ppd losers. The point is, you can't insult a man on promiscuity, since a man who is promiscuous is ACCEPTED by women and can bare children, even 304s are accepted to an extent, but BUMS or scrubs die... out. Not sure if you understand they're going to be men that'll have to pay to touch coochie, you've literally forgotten how invisible the average man is to you that you think in …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:18 PM
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And you were quick to forget about the other percentage of men or bums that died out.. I think men have been building the world for women and children for soo long, to the point where people find it soo easy to not give a shit about the number of male suicides, the number of men that died in wars, the number of male virgins, the number of male garbagemen, the number of male dropouts, murders, and chaos - they were just weaker men right. So why shame the strong men today for wanting women that ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 07:27 PM
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Makes perfect sense. The definition of a 304, is a promiscuous woman. A promiscuous woman is a woman that doesn't commit to long-term relationships and instead likes to sleep around, having casual sex, with the metric being sex partners not in a LTR. Now does a woman who ideally doesn't want to have casual sex multiple times, but engages in the behaviour a 304, yes she's a reluctant 304 since it's still promiscuity. This would be like you calling someone obese because they ate one cheeseburger. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 07:16 PM
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You think calling a man 304s is insulting, the same way it is to a woman ? Like these terms: • Fuckboy • Manhoe • Manwhore • 304-male • Pussykiller Are they meant to be offensive ? Because all you're doing is actually complementing a man's ability to spread his seed into consenting women, is that worse or better than being a bum. The worse thing you can call a man is a bum. These are like juvenile attempts, so I'll just brief you on biology and why it's never the same offence for a man sexual ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 07:02 PM
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Yh I saw that cherry picking example earlier lol, there is problems with it. Firstly the majority of women aren't 18 year-old virgins, let's not try to dilute what it means to be 304, when we know damn well most women even from 18-30 aren't on a 1 body count. Red herring fallacy and The exception doesn't make the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:50 PM
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You're saying 'whore', '304' and 'hoe' are apples and oranges right. Which means you missed the point already.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:37 PM
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Originally I put 3-4 months out there but I also said somewhere else it's debatable, but a one night stand absolutely isn't. Who knows how long a relationship is going to last.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:33 PM
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Browncheeks you really trying to argue semantics when you're talking about the usage of the word "whore" in olden times lool.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:28 PM
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Being a bum is worse than being a 304. 304s can get pregnant, have families, healthy kids, and married. No women wants a bum. 80% of women have propagated their genes whilst only half of men were able to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:26 PM
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Remember what I said earlier, the reason one mistake is considered 304 behaviour is again because that very mistake is what she would have had to have to stick for the next 9 months, the same one mistake is something that can kill her in childbirth, the same mistake could be used a lie to the identity of the real father. It also was also upon men not to engage in fornication throughout history, so as to not encourage promiscuity. A women who only has 1 sex partner even if it was short term is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:23 PM
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Those are in the same category as bums I believe, if you have to pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:09 PM
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It's such a weird world, where people can't admit what they are or the kind of behaviour they're engaging in, the word hoe isn't going anywhere since anytime a woman gets angry at another woman she's always going to call her a hoe. Sleeping with more people than you're even interested In long term relationship is the same behaviour, 304, hoe, ain't nothing wrong with admitting the truth. she slept with and then they broke up 2 months later and that’s the extent of her sexual history a whore. Now…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:25 PM
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Men can't be 304s, because for a man to have sexual access there has to be valued accepted from the opposite sex. I'm not sure if you know but women are the mediators who gets to actually have kids, if a man's a bum, and severely unattractive, you think it's by coincidence that such men never get to have sex ?, and that's okay and the way it's always supposed to be. Around 80% of women had children throughout history whilst around only 40% men did. The truth is people like to shame the fittest o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:08 PM
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I'm guessing you're not over 100 years old, so we've only been here for a minute whilst the word is older than that by centuries. Shall we get into the history. It stems from whore, which is an old school derogatory term for women that were promiscuous in times of old. The reason why the word has soo much potency is because for the majority of time, women have always played a role of selecting the best genes of the mating pool. I'm sure you've woken up with 2 eyes, 10 fingers, 10 toes, could wal…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:03 PM
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It does absolutely. 1 N count can be 1 entire life or could be from cheating. For 99% of time and history that's probably an entire baby right there, an entire mistake to raise up, a baby that could kill the mother during childbirth. There is a semantic argument of what the word means today, but for most if not all of history it's meant the same damn thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:45 PM
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According to 99% of history and time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:42 PM
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Yeah that's why median is rubbish. That one 304 with the 23 whose lying definitely has to be accounted for, because if she succeeds with the lies for even one man, she's conquered the man with all 304 glory, and women are good liars. The average should be 7. Other polls in different spheres suggest drastic underreporting, of about double the numbers for women, and trace overreporting for men. I think In 2023, is the time where women are probably sleeping around more than men or just the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:39 PM
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304 means sleeping with anyone outside the confounds or a LTRs, It doesn't take much to be the title, and it's mainly stringent because that 1 time or mistake could have made you a mother, and that's a whole life to raise as a "mistake" So even a 1 N count, if it's on a short term fling is 304 behaviour, but if a woman has a 5 N count of 5 LTRs she's not a 304.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:31 PM
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Firstly what you have extrapolated is called anecdotal evidence, it has been taken from your own experience and not from published data. 304 or a hoe by definition is when a woman has slept even once with someone whose not a LTR, which in simple terms means even a 1 night stand. With LTR's people are looking for something sustainable with one night stands they're not. Long term being anywhere from above 3-4 months and exclusive. Now not all women are the same, some might have only 1 one night st…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:24 PM
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It's because women have biologically evolved to get pregnant once every 9 months, and childbirth can lead to death or poorer quality of life for them or the baby, so when they choose they damn well have to be accurate. Whereas with men it's more quantitive, if an absurd amount of women want one man, then there is something they're probably doing right.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:57 AM
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Those values aren't some older bimbo with a 10 body count. Women are more educated than men nowadays, so In fact they're not as "bummy" as you'd think, almost 50% of women or more that are 18-24 are college educated.. skills, money, life experience, and knowledge Sexual Experience comes with baggage for women , and you're describing masculine qualities from women when most women are hypergamous, so expect those qualities from a man not from themselves. You ever heard the saying "Women are becomi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:45 PM
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Probably not, the only reason why men are attracted to much younger women isn't necessary because of just youth alone or even beauty, but because of baggage and experience. Men can tend to be a bit more logical and calculated as they get older. It's not so much sexual attraction, but if they're talking about the future mother of their children, then younger women 18-24 is preferred, since they can both be sexually attracted to them and know such women will be physically developed and responsible…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 01:39 AM
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Not necessarily, women reach peak development around 18-24, so no. Peak development is when these women are best looking, it's also the same for men 18-24 is probably going to our best looking shelves just purely on looks. Some men occasionally will actually be underdeveloped till their late 20s, but that's the minority not the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:11 PM
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Because those men can't and they know it. But if they could, 18-24 is the range they'd go for. Just the same way a 34 year old woman with 3 kids to 3 different dads knows she can't attain a high status man the same age or slightly younger than her with options. Women themselves know they look best at 18-24, and you don't think men aren't attracted to beautiful women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 06:00 PM
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You talking about the men that get manicures ? Then you're correct. If you're saying we wake up telling ourselves "I'm more beautiful than the woman sleeping on my bed", then you're incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:57 PM
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'Desperate' is just a ridiculous word, particularly when most men average or not, are watching porn, and aren't considered incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:27 PM
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Is the average guy desperate for sex compared to the average women then I would say yes. The top 1% of men can't sleep with as many women in a day as an average woman can.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:19 PM
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Your word salad literally sounds like an explanation to the atomic mass of dogshit. No sir. Women are not supposed to be attracted to us unless we’ve proven ourselves fit for reproduction. I can agree with this part, but everything else is predicated on you probably not knowing the textbook definition of being sexually desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 12:33 PM
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There is plenty of desperate men that are pervs, have court cases and are in prison, such people aren't "average" IMO but ok pal whatever floats your boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 12:28 PM
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Just read the comments lool, 99% of are essentially saying "all average men are incels" The very definition of an incel is sexual desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:31 AM
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Desperate is the wrong word. Desperation means struggling to get what you want to the point where you're willing to sacrifice your integrity. Average men have sex, half of all average men are in a relationship, the other ones are single and sleeping around. Incel would be a desperate person, we've all just agreed that the average man is an incel without even realizing from these dumb comments. It's like the OP done some wizardry and made everyone forget the definition of desperate @u/Illustrious…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:28 AM
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You've all just agreed that the average man is a 'incel'. What's going on here ?.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:23 AM
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Average men get sex, otherwise that'll be like saying the average man is a incel.. Incels usually refers to people below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:21 AM
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What is the revenue trend in K-pop ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 06:45 AM
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No reformed hoes thanks. And Of course women are going to omit sexual facts, they do that 99% of the time even for guys they don't like, I wouldn't be surprised if there is even reformed hoes at church, temples or mosques.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:05 PM
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So a 5/10 ? Wouldn't rule it out. Most women in general are average and mediocre, and if they aren't then they're not going to date the average man. Most men are also average. Most dates are of average men with average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 01:32 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:27 PM
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Quick question why is your username flair "misandrist"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:50 PM
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You made several generic statements that money is arbitrary, then resolved to claiming that I said those traits won't consistent with the general higher earners but with lottery winners? Even though I clearly said Most people aren't going to lottery winners, but we live in a world that rewards the competent and ambitious. Talk about fallacies. it's mostly determined by how rich your parents were, just luck. The jist of what you're saying is that most high earners have "rich" parents and are luck…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:42 PM
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You think money is arbitrary ?, People just wake up here and there with money in their pockets Most people aren't going to lottery winners, but we live in a world that rewards the competent and ambitious: I literally have to spell this out for you, income is proportional to: • Competence • Industriousness • Charisma • Talent (inherited abilities/train) Women are they not, attracted to men who are good at what they do, driven, can make them laugh, and are tall ?. ✓ Being good at what you do, is c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:37 PM
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I'm probably more RP, or even MGTOW, but I'd have to admit this has come as a shocker. PPD was probably the one place where both sides can have discourse and be naunced, open minded and friendly. There wasn't even much emphasis on downvotes/upvotes, it was a low-key sub and definitely wasn't incendiary (from what I saw). There always seems to be some concerted effort against the manosphere, conservative viewpoints, critiques of mainstream media and it's ambassadors, we're supposed to live in a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 01:11 AM
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No one's going to care when you pull up in a 6 figure car. Money talks, and money talks first. Don't get me wrong though, personally myself I've never even bought a lottery ticket, but it's easy to see what attention it would attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:58 AM
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I can tell you won't thinking with your head on this one. A lottery is a different magnitude (size) of earnings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:55 AM
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"some" Most women In fact are gold diggers, and it's good that they are. Most women want a relationship with a man that earns the same OR more, with a preference to more whereas men undisputably don't have a preference. This doesn't mean women will go to the highest extremes for a 1% earner (although some would), but most would prefer an earner above themselves or above average. (Also it's worth noting that provided the opportunity by a 1% earner, to court them, most would absolutely agree to da…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:47 AM
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Yes. People haven't realised even 16-30 is important. 16-21 you won't get judged by peers, maybe by friends or associates, but everyone remembers the first to get a car, first one to get a license, first to move out their parents house, first to save for a mortgage, first to get married etc. Its about status, since after 30-40 no one gives a shit if you're on 6 figures whilst they've got daycare to attend to, mortgage, and a career to upkeep. People like the spotlight about being the 'first' to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:39 AM
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20-30 is a large span though. You can't expect the pressures of 20-23, to be the same as those of a 27-29 year old. I even said here Overall I would agree though 20-30 are the most crucial years of your life, because they're the times you'll remember the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:56 PM
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"The older you get the more your choices catch up to you" Wisdom
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:49 PM
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Technically the way life itself is sociologically constructed, means most people can't actually slack for decades on decades. It's also rooted in our biology, because the older you get the more stubborn you become, that's a consequence of the fact you've lived to ample maturity i.e 25+, so every mechanism in psychology believes you can survive another 25 years doing the same things, and so on. People that take a massive turn in their career or progression usually either go through post traumatic…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:43 PM
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That's the average. If you know what an average is, the average doesn't mean the age gap doesn't exist in more than plenty of couples, it's pretty basic, it's like saying because the average height is 5'10, there isn't anyone 6'0+ or 5'8 and below. Also did you even read the conversation or previous comments ?, it was about whether women are more likely to date men older or younger, and whether men would prefer younger women than those the same age. If you want to open this can of worms, statist…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 07:05 AM
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Money talks for Itself though: Usually higher earners: • More ambition • Risk takers • More methodical • More competent • Higher social skills/networking • More talented, with their trade, career or traits Even if you don't have money, women will identify a trait in a person that they might assume will lead to being a good earner; • Relentless • Assertive • Confident • High IQ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:13 PM
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Earnings typically increase by 10-15k every 5 years after 21, so even if a graduate makes 40k, by 35 they're probably expected to make close to 85k. 85k is in the close top 30%, so it's not all luck. Also the older the male and female in a couple are, the less the age difference has an effect. Woman to man: 18-28 - Borderline social pariahs 20-30 - Large difference 25-35 - Quite a difference 30-40 - Hardly noticeable 40-50 - No one cares to notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 05:11 PM
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Now you've confused sex availability with actual options for serious relationship and marriage. We've now taken a step back. Clark and Hatfield 1989 often referenced by David buss, shows that for casual sex the ratio of men saying yes to a woman than a woman saying yes to a man is 99/1. So let's get that out the way, a woman always has more options for casual sex but not for their preferred options. What you're referring to aren't real options, no 35 year old considers giving a free BJ to a 19 y…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 04:46 PM
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Though they are MORE likely to be the ones to file for divorce. You said it yourself g. Thus are more likely to divorce than uneducated women. https://www.ejj-law.com/why-do-women-initiate-divorce-more-often-than-men/#:~:text=In%20fact%2C%20studies%20show%20that,figure%20jumps%20up%20to%2090%25. Premarital sex https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0192513X231155673#:~:text=The%20effect%20size%20is%20both,ORs%20%3D%202.50%E2%80%942.52). "those with premarital sexual partners have more than twi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 04:07 PM
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I'm making the assumption that attractive women are more attractive than less attractive women. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:59 PM
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Some of yall are outright delusional about this situation. I can name about 5 social acquaintances that are have a 10 year age gap, and I know 3 girls I know that are with guys on a 10 year age gap. It's only in the west where this isn't very common but possible, worldwide it's much more common, and there is absolutely plenty of guys 35 dating 25 year olds even 21 year olds for that matter. Don't even try and make the comparison that 35 year old women have the same chances in the dating market a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:57 PM
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You're hustling backwards with that logic. "Insanely" attractive women, are better off after a divorce than less attractive women, because more men are attracted to insanely attractive women than less attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:06 PM
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When a woman is above 30, she immediately knows her dating options drastically reduce, by the time she's 40, chances of childbirth reduces. Men aren't as selective in the first place, so by the time we're even 30 or 40, they're still desirable amongst younger women, without having to be daunted by the fear of a risk childbirth. Women at 35 want men that are 35. Men at 35 want women that are 25. They settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:02 PM
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Yes, you've said some good reasons but they're settling when we're talking about 2023. One of the reasons for divorce is experience: ✓ Women with more sexual experience (premarital sex numbers) are said to divorce more ✓ Women with higher college level education are more likely to divorce ✓ Generally, women getting married older are more likely to divorce It's just as a consequence of the fact the longer you're selective for, the more preferences you develop, more comparisons you make, and more …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:56 PM
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This is when you start to release, women are just as smart as men, because they know all of the above, yet it particularly benefits women more, because the men without discernment will actually adopt to the strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:40 PM
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It's a push coming from a bunch of imbeciles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:37 PM
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No, they're forced to settle, and they do settle reluctantly. That's why probably why the divorce rate is like 50% now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:10 PM
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Of course, but it's not within their best interests. Women are more qualitative with their mate selection we are quantitative. This is what I've observed in 2023: • Women want the best available option, then zero in on what they get till they're forced to settle. • Men want as maximal options as possible, then explore all options till attachments are formed enough to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:05 PM
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Immediately after a girl says a guy is a fuckboy they're saying he is wanted or in sexual demand, beats incel anyday, 7 times out of the week.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:43 PM
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You think.. I think saying "promiscuous man" sounds more offensive than fuck boy, because it notates the severity of what they're doing, "fuckboy" just sounds like a dude who has a lot of fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:42 PM
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That's not an unpopular or nothing, men have known this for years.... and used it to their full advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:40 PM
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I hear you point, makes more sense given the examples you've gave. My suspicions derive from the hormonal differences between male and females which only become exponentially prevalent at pubescent age and not before particularly with sex steroids and exposure to larger androgynous quantities. What you're saying basically is that even small amounts or prenatal amounts of these can have an affect on behavior even before puberty, which is an interesting one, but my point overall was you can't expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:49 PM
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Disagree with 1 and 2. Manly because of the "Or boys".. expression. What do you mean by boys, kids are can be gendered in accordance to their sex, but that absolutely doesn't mean you can equate a 12 year old boy to a 22 or, 32 year old man in terms of masculinity. Strictly speaking "boys" typically used to ascribe people at their prepubescent age or towards the later stage, societally adults are referred to as men and women, and that's around 18. After 18 a biological male isn't referred to as …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:19 PM
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I'll try and make this as short as possible, in 3 points - Playing the gender role of what is recognised as a biological man. - Attracting most of the opposite sex based off actions. - Being rational over being emotional most of the time. That's my definition, the current definition is a mix of this and aesthetics, but I think masculinity is a lot deeper than how a person looks being that it is intrinsically interwoven with their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:11 PM
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This is mostly correct, but let's not confuse women specifically wanting a man with options with being attracted with the values that attribute to options e.g status, wealth, aesthetics. Nevertheless this is mostly right since women automatically think such values must have been attained if there is multiple attractions from women to the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 02:46 AM
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What do you mean by easily, when everyone's genuinely more lazy, we've literally technologically incorporated an easier lifestyle to manage our civilisation. Everything is harder when people are upto 20% more obese today than they were 25 years ago. People are just becoming okay with lowering their standards to make their behavior more acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:13 PM
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A man's orgasm is more important, it's why you're here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 12:11 AM
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Being weak minded doesn't equal being addicted. Usually watching porn and playing video games is cope for other issues. Not sure if you understood the neurological affects of watching porn. Yes you can say it's being weak minded, but every man has a powerful biological need dictated by evolution to procreate, when men watch porn, they enable their body's to assume that they're procreating; Do you actually understand how dangerous and severe that is ? • They release dopamine (reward work) chemica…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:50 PM
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Watching porn can negatively affect testosterone levels, alongside obesity.. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12506329/ Also people aren't exercising because they don't sociologically care anymore, a more hypersexualised society tolerates a lower burden of performance for sex overall, there is plenty of fat people having sex, where as being fat in the past made you a social prairie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:38 PM
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Also I didn't say porn can't be an addiction. I said most of the times, when men report issues, addiction isn't the problem. What percentage of the men that watch porn weekly if they got told not to watch it, wouldn't watch it ?. An addition is an inability or physiological disorder in one's own cognitive control of a substance, or activity. If you literally haven't seen the struggle of people that can't go days, weeks or months without porn, then you don't know what you're talking about. Men th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:20 PM
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You're talking about Africa, whilst I'm talking about the US and less traditional countries. So you from Africa then as per "we", because in the US, testosterone levels have reduced by any scientific metric: https://www.eu-focus.europeanurology.com/article/S2405-4569(20)30062-6/fulltext It's declining.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:07 PM
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2:50:00-2:57:00 It was from an honest panel of 20+ women Most of the stats on women having 5-10 body counts are outdated, that was maybe the case 25 years ago, but we're in 2023, and it's a whole lot different, and that's even whilst some are lying. Don't get me wrong the median might be 15 or less, but if one or 3 women in a group of 10 women has an excessive body count, it counts because such women will also try to hide their body counts, they're doing a disservice to the average woman. If you…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 02:48 PM
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We definitely comparatively live in a hypersexual society. • Upwards of 80% of men watch porn weekly, whilst a good percentage watch porn daily • Body count average of women is 20, whilst it used to be 3-5, 100 years ago • Rates of paraphilia have increased • Little research has been done to officially recognise porn and sex as potentially addictive. • Other theories hint that a hypersexualised society makes people more suggestible, and controllable, particularly men more than women.. 25-30% red…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 01:57 PM
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Yes I agree, we're struggling to find women with lower body counts (that being same number of LTR as sex partners), that are more traditional than we are and less liberal thus are demotivated as we see women as just recreational activity for sex. • The body count will continue to increase till women start to realise we're not attracted to it. • Men will be trasher, because they don't feel like you're worth working for, till women start to play their traditional roles again • Gender roles will na…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 01:42 PM
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Being average in a sexually degen, hypersexual, obese, unhealthy society means you're the baseline epitome of those things. So I'll pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 01:36 PM
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60k is the average in the US or around there about... It's nowhere near 30k. https://www.forbes.com/advisor/business/average-salary-by-age/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:27 PM
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Lol this is one delusional chick. She thinks the average man is on 30k..... Try 60k. You ain't been around average men, you've been around below average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:42 PM
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Try it. Grab an Average woman in her 30s whose watched every girl she grew up with settle down and an average man in his 30s whose got a group of friends in the same boat, see who is happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:37 PM
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Said by the OP with 0 experience as a man. Most women are going to know at face value whether the guy is for them, yet watch a man fail miserably out of politeness or for a free dinner. Most men don't have experience actually achieving reciprocated attention from dozens of women, yet women have experience rejecting hundreds of men. It's not the same ball game since what's hard or easy is different for every man, women already know what they want, and getting reciprocation comes from actual exper…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 06:10 AM
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Not sure you understand the actual reality of a low guy and a low woman. "Lower quality" man - implies lack of experience or sexual access because of either appearance, charisma or income. "Lower quality" woman - Extremely high body count or sexual past, and not so good looking. Then you end up with a relationship that will never work, and has never worked. Most relationships are either from average people getting together in the same work space and environment or are hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 05:48 AM
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Pick me girls are keepers, as long as they practice what they say and believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:58 PM
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The headline is you're a pussy if you bring a gun to a fist fight, not guns are for pussies. Thank me later.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:43 PM
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Complaining about other people's preferences is like putting mouse traps inside the opposite sex's pants should you find the opportunity: Like...what are you doing ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:23 PM
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I admire your effort, but I'll I can say is the concepts of "redpill" coincide with evolutionary psychology of which the main themes particularly within the two sexes are: • Women are hypergamous (they want a taller, stronger, smarter or financed matched partner) • Men are less selective, studies presented by David buss have shown the sex drive of men to upto to dozens of times more than women, so they're more likely to cheat given options to. • Women being hypergamous and men being less selecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 07:14 PM
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I don't know how you've managed to land your plane both at misandry and misogyny at the same time. If men only spoke to women just to have sex like you want them to do - misogyny Implying that men are incapable of talking to women without wanting sex - misandry. You've topped the toxicity chart.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 07:03 PM
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They've done that since the beginning of time, that's why a lot of betas died out, and more women have had children than men have had children throughout that history. They still do it anyway, top men within their vicinity. I have no qualms with it, our species must continue to be strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:58 PM
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You're right, the trajectory could be problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:42 PM
2

What if she's knowingly getting the sperm of a man whose 6'10, a former basketball player.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:40 PM
1

Good luck on your chlymadia recovery...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:22 PM
3

Is international chlymadia worth it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:15 PM
6

Which STDs do you not have ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:10 PM
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From 5'0 man to 6'6 man, what the..... 6'6 men represent 0.001% of men in the population. 5'0 men represent 0.001% of men in the population. You've went from one extreme to the other statistically speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:42 PM
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Meme grandmastery right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:32 PM
7

Who needs a knife or a cutting board anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:28 PM
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The dude thinks, ugly, short men or women are going to stop people from having sex. You're still a cub. There is 4 billion adults on the planet controlled by millions of years of evolution to procreate, who are you thinking is going to hold back.
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 03:48 PM
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https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/is_there_a_happiness_gender_gap No my bad, I meant women's happiness has reduced more than men's happiness, but they're still overall more happy, which means they're the ones less happy as a difference than men are.
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 03:20 PM
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I agree with 90% of what you've just said, so don't take it the wrong, but what do you mean by projecting, and how can you tell if someone is projecting..
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 03:17 PM
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The population is small, but the influence is large. One thing is for sure; the dating market has destabilized and is currently in free fall... I agree, people's expectations are all over the place. Personally, IMO I think it's all to do with gender roles. Women are knowingly becoming more masculine and aren't happy, and men are happy without realising they're less masculine. Average Testosterone levels have dropped by close to 30%, which is huge.
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 12:34 PM
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"Women are going to have to compete with AI" , did I read that correctly ?. It's not that common, you're talking about a very small population of men probably close to less than 1%. They don't represent the whole. Everything you've mentioned yet again represents the minority, passport bros etc that's probably a few less than 1%. MGTOW is a larger portion but stil again close to the 1%. If I was to estimate I'd say, gender roles are becoming flexible, so a woman's ideal man is changing, and a man…
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 11:56 AM
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Na, you're speaking as if men secretly want to paint their finger nails lool. Both genders mostly enjoy the gender roles always present.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:17 PM
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Of course the feminist wants men to be like women and for women to be like men. Sorry but every cell in my body is gendered. That's not to say I don't think we will have a genderless society, because I think we will in the next 200-500 years, even on a biological scale, but that's out of my lifespan and we don't have the technology or advances to make that tangible right now. So for as long as we'll be alive, my cells will contain xy chromosomes and I will continue to produce testosterone, so wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:38 AM
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The "freedoms" aren't conductive towards gender roles that we have all been playing since the beginning of time, they're there for reason. We might as well be genderless if those roles didn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 02:17 AM
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Sounds like nonsense, people follow principles whether you like it or not. No one decides to be unemployment indefinitely just because "it's my life", that's not how the world works. Men and women have also played gender roles before they could start fires.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:36 AM
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I see what you did there. It seems more politically correct for women to be masculine than for men to be feminine, yet demand the same masculinity from the same sex when they become just as masculine as the man. That's why they're all unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:32 AM
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Check my comment as well
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:43 PM
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It takes a few men mathematically to push the average way higher. 2 men with a 200 body count And 48 men with 4 body count Means the average is 12. 2 women with a 50 body count And 48 women with a 8 body count Means the average is 10. So even if most women are sleeping with twice the number of most men, the stats in this example indicate that men are more promiscuous which is horse shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:35 PM
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What a way to yield lool.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 04:06 AM
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I don’t understand how that’s not hard to believe You mean not not hard to believe or just hard to believe right ? Because you just contradicted yourself. Nevertheless men are also attracted to older women with low to 0 body counts by the way, just the same way women are attracted to younger men who are established.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 03:40 AM
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You don't even see through the naivety. That's now just like saying "grapes would be my favourite fruit, even if I never ate them"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 03:34 AM
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Quite a dumb statement don't you think since the 21 year old is your boyfriend. That's like a 80 year old woman saying she'll rather fuck her 90 year old husband than a 21 year old man. Redundant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 02:54 AM
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You gave me the source for the definition of median, not the source for the data you claim actually revealed that men on a median average earn more. Median would be if you lined up 50 working women from lowest to highest income, the 24th 25th and 26th would be the median. It's very interesting since men also work the Lowest paying jobs, so a good portion maybe even upto 15 of them out of the 50 would be dirt poor, yet women are more college educated, and you expect the median women i.e 24th, 25t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 04:50 PM
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Where's your source, and usually not all Statistically analysed methods use method, they use different distribution techniques usually attributed to mean averages. Also how you expecting it to be equal when women are the ones that get pregnant and want men that earn more than them ?.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 11:54 AM
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Yes because the median includes billionaires and ceo's. How many billionaires have you talked to personally ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:41 PM
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Per say if there was a 100000ft giant in the room, with 99 men that were 5'10, the average height would 30, 676ft. That's how these numbers go.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 09:45 AM
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If we look away from the richest few percent, women in the US are increasingly dominating both in terms of education and in terms of income and property. Overall, men lag behind women and is possible, that most men will simply be poorer and less educated than most women over time. And then women will have even less reason to marry such men, because why should they? Women are actually earning more if you account for the average women and the average men and not include the 0.0001% of hyper-succes…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 09:44 AM
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Yeah feminists absolutely cream the pay statistics, which are falsely represented. Men don't get pregnant, some men stay miserable in high paying jobs as in permanently single, and hyper-successful men don't represent your average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 09:29 AM
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There are more single mothers with custody than fathers with custody, which is why more successful women tend to buy properties more than men. All whilst women are becoming college educated. That's not to say your point isn't correct. Generally men are becoming more feminine and women more masculine, so why would we expect less.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 09:26 AM
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Say again I'm dead LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 01:42 AM
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Disagree. An average looking women can smash 10 men in one night whereas an average looking man would have to land a miracle to land one. We're way more unselective. The average woman runs circles around the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 12:08 AM
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Men grow up wanking into socks and trying to Insert themselves Into vacuum cleaners, and you're surprised that they also would smash women they're not actually attracted to but just want to smash for the sake of it. Recreational use only. Yes female bodybuilders do look masculine because of all the testosterone they're pumping, sharp jawlines, edged up muscles. Personally they're not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 12:05 AM
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Harry Styles ,Shawn Mendes... None of which are broke and unsuccessful. Yeah clearly don't know what exceptions don't make the rule means That's like when women say the average height of a man is 6'0 without realizing that there is only 2/10 men or less than 20% of men that are 6'0, because the other 80% of men are invisible to them. That's the same thought process you're using. Most men who are attractive for relationships by the millions are by majority not broke, not unsuccessful, or feminine…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 11:38 PM
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Makeup usage being that women care about their looks more than men do. Yet you're trying to say women care about looks the same way men care about looks. So which men do you see in your daily life wearing make up to woo girls without a job, a career, lifestyle and are broke ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 11:32 PM
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? The exception doesn't make the rule. 1% of women that are attracted to broke, lazy, feminine and unsuccessful men that are good looking for long term relationships don't represent the other 99%.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 11:12 PM
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You just conflated all 5'5 men as being arrogant as per "I'm a big man, it's my house", as if all 5'5 would all say such a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 11:09 PM
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They want looks first, yet the post is about them dating men with protection and security over looks. Why are you in denial about the subject matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 11:07 PM
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The post is about why attractive women date unattractive men, yet you seem to think every man that's ever dated, been with or married beautiful women was good looking himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:44 PM
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That's why you're going to keep seeing attractive girls dating less attractive men. You're completely refusing to understand that women Innately want protection/security and compatibility first..not a man's eyelashes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:42 PM
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I'm talking about an actual relationship. Obviously if a girl sees 5 guys - 4 of which are good looking and homeless and 1 short guy who makes money, she's going to be physically attracted to the 4 homeless dudes, till she queries all 4 then goes for the short guy that makes money. Also actions create looks, that's why you're probably thinking this example is ridiculous because how many homeless guys that are good looking are out there...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 07:47 PM
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underlying desire for a taller woman to give my offspring superior genes. Do you realize how DUMB that sounds? Sounds smart, so are you dumb ? Also a lot shorter girls do it, are you calling them dumb also ?. I may be crude but I'm just calling things for what it is. Like I understand I'm naturally 200 pound and athletic, so I wouldn't I want a girl that's slightly athletic - I'm readily predisposed, given that I had a good life myself when it comes to sports opportunities or not getting physica…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 07:42 PM
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Ok, Good man you've now understood what we're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 07:23 PM
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Your actions affect your looks. I'm guessing you haven't got any friends at the gym that went from being skinny under 200 pounds to way over that, and own multiple cars. That's pure action.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 07:22 PM
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Your keyword being perceived. Real masculinity is actually about actions, the most masculine men you see today were because of the prerequisite biological nature of their ancestors or near relatives lifestyles. Good looks don't come without actions. • Taking care of your body • Working hard • Staying free from disease by being shrewd • Being independent and offering security • Not being hedonistic • Being a supportive partner and father. These are all a combination and a culmination of attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 07:19 PM
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Hardworking, Highly successful men are unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 07:13 PM
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What, I don't understand what you mean. But if I was going to interject about fact chicks, I'd say men are objective enough to know that fact chicks offer some things on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:17 AM
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The bot tried saying no to the fact a man's value is what he earns and can do, not how he flickers his eyelashes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:12 AM
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Reddit is your intellectual reference lool. Women are attracted to men based on their face, race, and height That's the shit we're attracted to, women are attracted that added with career (future), personality (who) and earnings (present). For men it's more: 70%: looks (Face, race, height, age) 15%: Personality 10%: Career 5%: Earnings A man with options is always going to pick the most beautiful woman he can find. For women: 30%: Earnings 30%: Career 20%: Personality 20%: Looks A woman with opt…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:09 AM
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If they decided to enter the workforce, their attractiveness would guarantee their success there as well. That's contingent on the: If I already told you, yes everyone prefers that a person be good looking than not, but for guys they need a repertoire or full package not a face so to speak. It also speaks more volumes when it comes to long term relationships and not hook ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:54 AM
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Attractive mens’ actions had absolute dick to do with their successes, it was entirely due to the fact that people willingly gave them opportunities, excuses, and good faith while asking nothing in return. Which earth are you in.. because from what I can see in your earth broke boys still living with parents that don't know to drive or have a job date the best looking women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 06:18 AM
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So you're saying women are extremely unattracted to hardworking successful men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 06:11 AM
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These words: Alex Jones not relevant Conspiracy theory not relevant PhD Just came out of mouth pal because you don't want to admit the truth about hypergamy being real. That's cringe asf, and a far cry at best of squeamish denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 06:08 AM
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Wow, why soo much salad with teary eyed sauces ? What I said is the truth. A lot people definitely are hypergamous, women more so than men. I have no idea why you're arguing again the fact most women want a man that's; taller, stronger smarter, and more successful, and if you're short man even as a guesstimate you're likely probably not going to want a girl that's 4ft. First of all I never said I believed that the statement was true or correct, only that, that’s what I heard said. You tried sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 06:05 AM
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You prefer men that are good looking yes, but really his actions dedicate the attraction, and it so happens that good looking people coincide with success, health, and masculinity in the first place. Girls turn down guys all the time on dates and for relationships based on who the guy is not just because they're good looking.... Men are way more unselective, our tolerance level for a good looking girl much higher than if a girl dating a good looking guy who decides to be bummy, or feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 05:57 AM
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How many successful men do you see with beautiful women ? Vs How many successful ugly men do you see with ugly women ? They don't care the same way about looks the same way we care about their looks. That is not to say they don't prefer it. The ugly rich man gets to invite dozens of girls to a party, but the ugly girls don't get let in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 05:26 AM
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No I'm telling him what he's unconsciously doing. I'm not the one trying to date girls several inches taller because I'm short, and I'm also not a girl that picks guys not tall but super tall.. You literally applied that to the wrong guy. And by the way unless you're daffy duck you'd know people get into hypergamous relationships because of just that - upgrading their genes, yet never ever want to admit it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 05:05 AM
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That's called positive associative mating
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 05:02 AM
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That's true but not relevant. Women are attracted to masculinity, and masculinity is about a man's value through his actions - not by how he looks, or what he's parents gave him. What you'll find in life is what makes you man, is not what you were born with. The same is true to women but to a lesser extent. If a women is good looking she's immediately high value, however if a man is broke, lazy, feminine, and unsuccessful he's unattractive to women even if he was born good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 05:00 AM
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Women don't really care about how look, they care about the value you bring through your actions. You've got to be born yesterday if you think women care about how a man looks the same way men care about how women look.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 04:55 AM
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Your unconcious bias is because you're 5'6 and like tall girls. Biologically you likely want to upgrade your genes just like how short women like to date not tall but super tall guys. I thought that would've been obvious. People have perspectives just the same way you'd feel some type of way if I told you to only date short girls. have heard some taller woman say that if they limited their dating pool to just men who are taller they would die alone, That's probably why you think statements like …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 04:51 AM
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Never really seen a 6'0+ woman on a date, or been in one. There is simply just not that many 6'0+ women out there, the same way there just isn't that many 6'6 males out there. Yes it would be harder, not necessarily on the logistics but on the confidence part. He'll always be paranoid that she's leagues above him and feel emasculated. Nevertheless tall women have options too, should even the 6'0 dude know if he lands a 6'0 woman, his kids will be well over 6'5.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:45 AM
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Imagine if you were a 6'5 man, and your daughter was 5'11, then hooked up with guys 5'5...... Not trying to say anything, just want you to think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:31 AM
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You know the answer to the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:29 AM
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Yep. They're usually told by older women that are jealous of their youth and options.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:28 AM
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That's literally how the game is played now. Women tell impressionable young men to essentially be more feminine yet they're the ones sleeping with the most masculine men they can find. Subconsciously people aren't even aware that the dating market place, is like a food chain. The weak impressionable types die out or will be dominated in the work force, whilst the strongest most masculine males get the mates. The more things change the more they stay the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:26 AM
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There is literally less than 5% of men who are 5'5 or under, who are you even speaking for... And that's called arrogance. Being masculine isn't the same as being arrogant neither..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:22 AM
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You think men on steroids are masculine. Not sure you understand that male virginity is on the rise and females promiscuity is also to the point where the average 21 year old women will run circles around a man because of her experience. This is the unhappiest period that women have lived in relationship wise and men are increasingly becoming bummy. Feminist like feminine men and masculine women because it turns the tide yet what it really means is that male suicides increase, the average man be…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 12:26 AM
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I don't know about the beat women part or the context of it. But if not people set boundaries in a relationship and those boundaries are broken, she can pack her bags before I even hear the words "misogynistic", just the same way I can pack my bags if I break the boundaries. Every relationship is different and has different boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 12:10 AM
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Sugardaddy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 10:35 AM
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i CAN hook up with both older men and younger underage boys if i wanted, so it's about what, not can. You can hook up with younger underaged boys ? Wtf are you on about That's borderline paedophilia. I think I'm done talking to you. There is a difference between legal consenting age and paedophilia. You're on paedophilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 10:29 AM
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Majority of gen z girls aren't going to date Leonardo DiCaprio firstly.... but the older women want to and know they can't. Yeah 0 credibility because this was never about gen z but the older women. You can select a number of disapproving age groups, of which this this isn't about. You said exactly that she has no credibility about what gen z thinks about this. Where did I say this..I said gen z have 0 credibility in general since we're talking about his choices and that's ALL this is. Gen z hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 10:24 AM
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Just went from Leonardo DiCaprio dating a 19 year old to insinuations that men over 35 will have autistic kids. Unless you don't know what 'insinuating' means. And don't tag along, you'll make me cringe to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 10:10 AM
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Anecdotal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 10:00 AM
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Personally I frown on promiscuity myself, but I don't necessarily frown on a guy wanting to finally to settle with a woman much younger than himself. Not saying that's DiCaprio, but people think there's is something wrong that. If I choose to work for the next 20 years to make something out of myself and my family, why is some 30 year going to pry into my business because I don't want to date women with baggage. If it wasn't for promiscuity I tell you this whole age thing wouldn't mean shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:55 AM
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Leonardo DiCaprio is certainly not from Gen z lool. I'm pretty sure I said gen z have 0 credibility on this matter, not that gen z have 0 credibility about what gen z think miss velvet brain cells.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:23 AM
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You're basically trying to insinuate that every man above the age of 35 will have autistic kids because Leonardo DiCaprio is dating a 19 year old, lool like wtf. In regards to fertility a 48 year old women certainly can't do what he's doing and conceive children, so what you even trying to get at. You're part of niche group of 22 year olds that don't know that the population of United States is 330M, that there is over 15 million of you and that around maybe 100,000 would swap positions with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:18 AM
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Gen Z would make a meme out of you if you got into a car crash just like they mocked the queen of england's death. Gen z killed people during COVID by coughing as a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:00 AM
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If they can reverse the mileage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:52 AM
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than women as he got too old. Yet he gets to date 19 year old models..so what's your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:42 AM
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On the other hand, men older than 35 Most dads above the age of 35 in conception didn't have kids with autism so what's your point. misinterpretation of data, it only remotely begins to decline at 30, and starts to speed up at 35, recent data: Most women from the beginning of time don't get pregnant in their 30's so what's your point. so what? majority of gen z girls still think it's gross or immoral that he dates a 19 year old, which ruins your delusion that only older ugly women care about it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:38 AM
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0 credibility
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:27 AM
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Because you know what DiCaprio wants for his future don't you..... What he really wants. You know.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:19 AM
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Men from the dawn of time have had kids at 50+ Women not so much. He's just a man exercising his options.. what you gonna do, grab the 19 year old by her neck and force her also not exercise who she wants to date at a consenting age. I mean the dynamic goes. Women want older men that are stronger, older, taller smarter, and more successful. That must mean Women want to be dumber, weaker, shorter, less successful and younger in a relationship. So why you vilifying Caprio whose, taller, stronger, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:14 AM
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you redpill virgin weirdos Lool I laughed out loud, funniest rebuttal.. props to your rage, I like it. Nevertheless. Younger girls, less baggage in potential LTR, and he has indeed had some LTRs with these girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:08 AM
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from older women? there are far more gen z women or girls under 25 or 18 calling him out on social media and irl, but be delusional, i guess. Gen z made memes out of the queens death, they'll make a meme out of anytime. Such people aren't even on age to understand how the game works. if leo wanted kids, he would've settled when he was between 20-35 like most normal people, he's been doing this playboy shit for over god knows how many years Wants and wanted are two different tenses. leo doesn't h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:00 AM
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there are many women who stay virgins into their 20's What world are you in ? The exception doesn't make the rule. He has his own type, and of that type the older they get the higher the body count. I mean this is a man with actual options. I never said he wanted virgins but he might prefer a body count less than 10 for these actresses and models, by 25 I'm pretty sure that number doubles or trebles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 07:43 AM
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I said Potential.. Each of those women are over a year dates. So they're LTR. If he wanted just sex he could have a one night stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 07:40 AM
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Well they're not above 25 For a Reason Reason being
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 07:37 AM
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Yes you're probably right. I CBA to repeat myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 07:28 AM
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500 words literally based on emotions is pretty much a basic and childish way to address the situation at hand. Like look here Trying to obfuscate the answers to this question with trying to bully women about age and aging which is perfectly normal and what every human understands is a part of life unless they are deeply psychologically disturbed is beyond ridiculous. These types of reactions to valid concerns and questions enforce the negative feelings many women have about the misogynistic ang…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 06:53 AM
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Hypergamy works with the man attesting the traits of being; Stronger, Taller, More successful, Smarter and the woman finally selects. Men can only go as far as selecting who we want to select us, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 06:33 AM
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Out of high school being the key expression, whilst you tried to compare girls and teenagers that are still IN high school. That's a pretty large disparity don't you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 06:20 AM
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Making memes about nothing at all since thousands of 19 year old women would want to date Caprio, Caprio them also and thousands of men would happily swap places with Caprio. The internet is really a cesspool of underachievers, you really think any man whose on 8 figures cares about what some 30 year old women and simps/incels online think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 06:16 AM
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25 means more baggage. Just because women can be promiscuous does not mean every man would be alright dating a pornstar. Yeah the wall for high value men is certain age because older women come with baggage, and it's very very much universally recognised. A man only goes as far as his options.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 06:10 AM
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The same type of 19 year old girl: • Has more baggage at 25 than 19 Easy does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 06:08 AM
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You do realise that in each of the countries you've mentioned..that despite the disparity in age, those girls would still be in high school Lol. How tf you even know this, you actually searched the legal age of consent at it's youngest.... Damn If that's not showing for something than I don't know what is, like in the back of your head you go sleep knowing that the legal age of consent in Italy is 14 my guy where girls are still in high school ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 06:04 AM
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So that's actually the read world, other than your tic tok anecdotal evidence of which you obtained by spying on 14 year olds. At least DiCaprio is speaking to people of consenting age whilst you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:53 AM
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The real world is that men like Leonardo DiCaprio which are indeed high value, have options, and a man only goes as far as his options. His options are why we're even speaking right now. So that's actually the real world, other than your tiktok anecdotal evidence of which you obtained by spying on 14 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:51 AM
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Long gone because he made women feel old, ugly, dirty and unwanted from dating younger, cleaner, more attractive, and more fertile girls without baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:46 AM
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Body count analysis: 19 is lower than 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:45 AM
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All you've said is that he has a type of man, but the contingency is that they're younger, which means there has to be a disparity between younger and older womens sexual baggage. So I'll give it to you easier. If the same woman Leonardo DiCaprio was dating was 26, would she have a higher or lower body count than at 19 ? Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:42 AM
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19 year old women have lower body counts than 25 year olds. Computer: Kill confirmed.. beep beep
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:40 AM
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I think I've mightily exhausted myself here. If Leo has options and of those options include actors/models. Then yet again ✓Dicaprio has options ✓19 year old actress/model has less baggage than a 25 year old actress /model. I don't need you to lick my bootstraps any further by proving yet for the third time that Leonardo DiCaprio has options. Thanks yet again.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:36 AM
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I'm not from a place where the legal consenting age is 14 nor I'm I planning to go to a place where the legal age of consent 14. That's like saying if you were to go to a place where people commit cannibalism would you be okay with it ?. We're not in either of your half baked hypotheticals. Get with the programme, a 19 year old woman is old enough, to have a mortgage, moved out of her parents house, to go college, old enough to legally have children, old enough to be married, and old enough to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:27 AM
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Lower than a 25 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:21 AM
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My point proven. because Leo does it; Leo does it, because he can do it. Like I said men with options don't want women with baggage. ✓ Leo has options. ✓ 19 year olds come with less baggage. Thank you my dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:18 AM
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But it's not okay.... since the legal consenting age is 18. Playdough is in the next room.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:14 AM
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Like I already said. If you want a smarter, older, stronger, taller, more successful man then are you a: Broke weak unsuccessful dumb midget woman? You can just easily vilify desirable traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:12 AM
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It's bitter 30 year olds that complaining...and women that are worried that they'll be the same 30 year olds. If Caprio just wanted to smash it'll be a one night stand. The man doesn't want baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:10 AM
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People just don't want to admit that Leonardo DiCaprio is a man with options. He's doing what every other man with options would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:07 AM
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"Less baggage is preferable, and younger women come with less of it" Your emotions: 500 word essay.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:03 AM
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It's literally only older women that are annoyed Caprio would never date them, and simps that want to sleep with older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:00 AM
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Them older women don't even realise subconsciously that they're pissed off at the fact Caprio makes them feel, old, ugly and unwanted. Instead we're just gonna get 500 word essays based on those emotions. The truth: Men with options don't want women with baggage. Most men date women with baggage because they don't have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:57 AM
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Women want men that are older, smarter, stronger, taller, more successful, so does that make you dumb weak broke midgets ? Let me give you the home truth to why men prefer younger women. • They're less likely to compete in a relationship since it's hypergamous • More fertile - Less likely to have birthing complications and more likely to have more children. • Lower body count (promiscuity is on the rise) • Less likely to divorce • Easier to please That's a for a large select of men that would ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:52 AM
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Trust me the government is not going to change the legal consenting age because a few 30 year old women with a promiscuous past feel ugly and unwanted...since Leo wouldn't date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:40 AM
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You literally said absolutely nothing to my response. Went from DiCaprio's a creep to the women are using him and are snakes. They can't be Geniuses and a doofuses at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:37 AM
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Soo many Leonardo DiCaprios wanted you at 19 ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:34 AM
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Leonardo DiCaprio is disgusting for not wanting the potential future mother of his children to not have a high body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:29 AM
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To be honest with you, from a traditional perspective I'm guessing he simply doesn't want a woman that comes with baggage. Older women that were busy that didn't wait till marriage are: • More likely to break up in relationships • More likely to have a promiscuous past (high body count) • More likely to Initiate divorces • Less fertile • Less attractive and more masculine So the actual reason Caprio is dating 19 year olds or women not over 25 is because: • They're less likely to break up in a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:22 AM
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How many Leonardo DiCaprio's are out there. Vs How many 19 year olds are out there. She's balling. Get over it and over yourself. Women need to stop pretending they don't compete with each other for higher value men and that this relationship doesn't directly frown at older women that have had their chances, and come with baggage. That's what this is really about, it's a half baked media cry out from middle-aged single women that feel ugly, old and unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:13 AM
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It's funny because if you actually observe social media. We don't really give two shits until the media from general news agencies tells us to give a shit. Ooo Leonardo DiCaprio likes younger girls of consenting age.... Well Younger girls of consenting age like Leonardo DiCaprio.... Boo hoo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:04 AM
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The only argument you can make is that he's dating them, not putting a ring or status on such relationships. If he married a 19 year old, 5 years ago and put children in her no one would care.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 03:55 AM
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A lot of women are mad because it makes them feel old and dirty. Yet every women whilst growing up wants an older man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 03:49 AM
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I don't agree completely. I think women in general general want men of this list ideologically. •Tall •Successful •Ambitious •Broad solders •Low pitched voice •High muscle mass low body fat The difference between liberal and conservative women, is that liberal women will sleep with guys that fit the bill for years then settle with a average dude. Whereas conservative women will wait for such a man and if they don't come early enough settle for the average dude. So it becomes a question of which …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:28 PM
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The more masculine a man, the more likely he'd also crave femininity in a heterosexual relationship normally from a partner. You might be unique in thinking two very masculine man and woman are going to get well in a relationship, most don't and some might. The main reason being the likely rise of competition. Competition cancels complementation and relationships only work because of complementation. Note: Women tend to be get more masculine the older they get, or after bearing children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:12 PM
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Lack of male role models may emasculate a man, leading to more femininity, this is a co-dependent trait because of the fundamental nature of females needing security during childbirth. So the question now becomes do men that are more feminine rather than masculine like masculinity in women. Of which I'd say depends on one thing: • How much the man craves masculinity or feels emasculated Even if a man is feminine and they they crave masculinity within themselves, then it's likely they won't like …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:05 PM
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Notice how you assumed I'm talking about an extensively large gap in age... Men in most relationships are older, because they're more likely to have their shit together. Everyone already knows that anything more than 10 years is a taboo, and 5 or less is more common, but being a younger man than an older man is less common. Which still means women prefer older men. As per all the feel topics you're talking about: • Women definitely feel some type of way if there isn't security • Women definitely…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 10:46 PM
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What you yourself feel is not what the general population of women that don't want to date younger men that are broke or bummy feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 01:15 PM
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Most men aren't "fuckboys" or even more critically more experienced than women. Also most of the comments I've exhaustively spoken with women here say they prefer their partner to have the same or more as a man and certainly not be the epitome of no experience i.e virgin. 'Dominance' is more of a power connotation than it is a competence one..and it's rather subjective. I mean anyone could say that the fact a younger woman marrying someone earning 100 times they are and gets half the earnings in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 12:07 AM
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Stupid. Some weird women are. Most women are repulsed In the modern society that we live in most women certainly aren't repulsed by men who have slept with the same or more amount of partners. 5.Men are less attracted to women with more experience. I hope you actually read the post and comments made, so I don't have to run in circles around you. It's a very simple reason to why men date women younger and not older - experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 11:43 PM
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You didn't quite thoroughly understand the post and I get it. So I'll simplify, the 'options' you're talking about are the women that'll end up being single experienced 30 year olds that will then wonder why the same dudes don't look at them twice. The 'players' or promiscous men for the lack of a better term, will then be unattracted to those same experienced women for LTRs and will find it more difficult to find younger women that aren't promiscuous once they've settled down. So in a nutshell …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 08:53 PM
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A super rich fella with not so much attraction (other than wealth and power of course) could impregnate 100 women in one week if he wanted to. Then he could later disown every single one of those babies. Where's the biological selection in this? It doesn't exist (if it ever did). The title of the post is that promiscuity should be frowned upon by both sexes, such a man is not except.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:30 AM
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It's also because we as men for easier access have encouraged women to be more promiscuous yet end up avoiding those very same women as we get older but find women that aren't promiscuous for ideal LTRs are less available.... Which is really just our fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:28 AM
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I still don't think it's in a man's best interest if he's looking for a long term (wife and kid's) relationship to live a promiscuous lifestyle. Yes I agree, since we end up encouraging girls to lead by example of promiscuity which in turn means for LTRs when settling, women that aren't actually promiscuous become more scarce. In the traditionalists lenses no man really wants the mother of their children to have a backlog of sexual history.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:24 AM
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It does, because a lot of the guys right now who are promiscuous and trust me I know and have a lot of friends who are, in future will never date the same types of women in LTRs and will actually search for women who are antonyms of such lifestyles but find that such women are increasingly scarce because of dudes doing the same thing they did years ago. Then the same women who think it's liberating today in their earlier 20s or mid 20s will loath themselves in their 30s after they see guys of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:18 AM
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Ok, I'll ultra simplify it for you. So based on how you feel about this statement, you'll recognize an element of what this post is about. Statement: "I fucked your future wife and the mother of your future kids" Visualize it first.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:12 AM
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People usually want to settle down seriously in their early twenties to late twenties. Now if you take the fact that people generally prefer hypergamous relationships where the man makes a similar amount or more, then you'll have to account for the age gap. So when I say women prefer older men, I'm saying women prefer men have their shit in order more than men of the same age or younger do e.g older men. For the specifics in disparity, age gap usually is anything from 1-10 years usually.. women …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:06 AM
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The modern day man just wants easier access to casual sex so encourages the lifestyle on women yet later realizes he doesn't want a long term relationship with the same women engaging in such a lifestyle or that such women are now suddenly too old, and too experienced for him and that women not engaging in such a lifestyle are themselves scarce.... It's of no net sum benefit to men or women and particularly the nuclear family. Even though the nuclear family is essentially what has carried the ec…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:56 AM
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The 'we' is because I'm a man and I know that by the time I'm 30 and on potentially 6 figures (hypothetically) , I'll be in far a better position to date my own ideal woman of 20-24 years old whilst she is also, than a women who is 30 years old on potentially 6 figures. We'll get into the details into why : ✓ Women prefer hypergamous relationships, men don't for women. Men don't advocate for women to earn more than they do. A woman earning 6 figures would be earning more than 90% of what other m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:06 AM
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Your entire argument stems on trying to assume 'ALL' women are immature from 20-24. Which is a bold and undoubtedly false generalization... Also before we start talking apples and oranges, how do you even define mature ? For myself maturity is; • Finance independence from parents or male partner (not necessarily the state/government) • Ability to travel independently - driving license, high school and college education • Maintenance of job security • Possessing a residents outside their parents …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:41 PM
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People are generally hypergamous. So women will not date joblessness men that they're unattracted to it's that simple most of the time. However every now and then they might do and biologically a women can only reproduce once thus why it's imperative for them to be selective. The selective nature of women is how society forwards competition and brings about the best out of men and the best options for women to select.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 01:47 PM
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I'll simplify it for you. My post was literally about a select small group of promiscous men affecting the entire sexual marketplace unbeknownst to most people.. We creamed the system and I'm just admitting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 01:42 PM
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We're not sexually less attracted to experienced women or acutely older women. We're less attracted to the thought or feasibility of a long term relationship with experienced women because of the 1, 2, 3 points you gave. Women tend to want to date older guys and we tend to want to date younger women, because the age difference affects how hypergamous the relationship will be and people generally prefer hypergamous relationships long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 01:40 PM
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The definition means you're promiscuous, since you've slept with multiple sex partners that won't part of a long term relationship lool. Which ARE promiscuous people. So why exactly should the people who like to be promiscuous/sexually hedonistic frown upon their behavior? Our behavior only benefits us the males that want to be promiscous. I can be promiscous till I'm in my mid 30s and I'll still be in a better position than a women whose promiscous till her mid 30s. If you don't care about wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 01:29 PM
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Good point hitting at whether this is a pragmatic take but like I said it is idealistic and probably not realistic until people put logic and rationality first before the whims of their own hedonism. The biggest point I'd say is that, the source of said issues is to be recognized more than the issue if there is to be some form of positive change. Yes what I'm saying likely isn't going to stop people from being promiscuous because people have already came up with their own pre-concieved misconcep…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 01:11 PM
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Someone did say in the comments that people will usually go for people with similar body counts, which is idealistic I'd say but generally quite correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:55 PM
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like the assumption that women prefer promiscuous men, or that men even know a woman’s sexual history most of the time I wasn't hinting that women prefer promiscuous men but they prefer some experience over no experience assimilating their own experience for long term relationships. However it's completely different with guys, since we have no quarrels with women without any experience for a long term relationship, with most men even preferring young and less experienced women.. When it comes to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:52 PM
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Fair enough, we all know a high body count is already frowned upon for women more disproportionately for men. So the unobserved point was that it actually stems from men and that it doesn't benefit most men wanting a monogamous relationship that aren't promiscuous but only really benefits promiscuous men, since men and women prefer hypergamous relationships where the guy is older.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:40 PM
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20% of women are promiscous and the rest have body counts of 3 to 5. Most of the hooking ups are done by a minority of women. 20% is still a lot of women because I'm betting it was close to 10% a generation earlier ago, and promiscuity is only on the rise exponentially. https://ifstudies.org/blog/promiscuous-america-smart-secular-and-somewhat-less-happy It's funny because the stats show that promiscuity is rising for women but falling for men, interestingly enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:35 PM
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Promiscuity only really benefits promiscuous men disproportionately more than it does women. You haven't been around bitter 30 year old women that actually loath themselves because they're too sexually experienced for their ideal man and we can smell it. It creates double standards and rifts between men and women because we're transgressively copulating a million years of evolution into overcoming a societal norm that's literally a quarter of a century years old. The simple fact is men are alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:20 PM
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I know about 3 girls I went high school with that got with 30 year olds in their early 20's. You have to understand that most women are statistically hypergamous. They want experienced men that already have their lives in order. Not all women are immature at 20-24, some have already graduated, have savings and moved out of their parents homes. The max age gap is agreeably 10 years for most people so that'll still steer you in the 23-30 age range, don't be too pessimistic and suggestible to the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:07 PM
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procreation is our sole instinctive purpose You really want think procreation is our sole instinctive purpose in the modern day and age ?. So men want to be father's first before they have sex and women also want to be mother's before they have sex. That's what you'd be implying. This is not the case in real life since promiscuity is because of advanced sexual education, contraception and protection from procreation In a animalistic perspective like the one you've put forward (thanks), women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:55 AM
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Yes for sex, we're attracted to women with experience short term wise but It's not attractive long term. Men who want long term relationship have been found repeatedly to prefer younger less experienced women since more experienced women become more unselective (whilst biologically they're supposed to be selective) and sexually preferential - meaning they're harder to please in bed. So what you end up having is a man who is unable to please a woman in a long term relationship and is preferential…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:45 AM
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Yes because I'm neither a simp or an incel thus not desperate, I actually value how picky a woman is since competition is healthy and brings out the best of society. Women are meant to be biologically more selective because they can only reproduce once every 9 months, which serves as a medium towards ensuring that the best males play a part in the continuation of humanity. Also there is a difference between hypergamy as a societal standard and between just sleeping around. Some women may value a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:02 AM
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I'll try to explain what promiscuity and a high body count may entail for a women from a biological standpoint.. • If a woman has a high body count it means she's more sexually experienced and harder to please. • It means she's less selective with who she sleeps with but is more sexually preferential with the pleasure she gets from sex • Being more sexually preferential but sleeping around unselectively can lead to unhappy marriages later on in life where women intiate 70% of the divorces. (Most…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:49 AM
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Yep..Facts don't lie
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:33 AM
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What you've said is generally correct and also a tad idealistic. Guys with high body counts shouldn't really mind dating girls with high body counts and girls with low body counts shouldn't mind dating guys with low body counts. Occasionally though you will get guys with high body counts that want to date exceptionally lower body counts then find out that it's harder to find such women in the modern age without realizing part of the reason is because of guys doing the exact same thing they were …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:30 AM
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Age comes with experience and men are less attracted to women older because of firstly the aesthetic. Secondly, we're also not stupid and can use hindsight to estimate how robust a long term relationship will be based off your sexual experience or previous promiscuity. Women that are more experienced and older are more likely to initiate divorce. Women that are more experienced and older are harder to please. Women that are more experienced and older are less trustworthy and more likely to cheat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:23 AM
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Most women ideally want a man that's older, so having 0 experience even whilst older is unattractive to them since it implicates that such a man is undesirable to women. This is also a huge gap between being a male virgin and just simply not being a male virgin. The consensus here is similar body counts between them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:10 AM
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Factually promiscuity just ends up benefitting us i.e particularly promiscuous males long term more than it does women. While it supposedly seems easier to engage in for younger girls, the more promiscuous they are or get older - the less attractive they become to their own idealistic hypergamous relationships..This means women will end up settling at who they would have deemed as second best 5 years earlier more often than a man will. 70% of divorces are initiated by women -link For instance it…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 09:13 AM
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Some experience is better than none when it comes to guys. Little to no experience can be preferred in women, but much experience is generally not preferred in women for long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:45 AM
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Yeah lool, that's literally what I just said and you quoted me on it too ha.. And how many people don't want a long-term monogamous relationship... not more than most
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:41 AM
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You definitely don't want 0 experience, but some of us may even prefer that from women In a long-term relationship. You do expect some experience from us, that doesn't mean we have to be a manwhore either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:39 AM
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You can do that as a man, I know that's what most of us want, however it's a acceptably a double standard if I want to be promiscuous yet to want women that aren't promiscuous later on in life, since we would have been the one's hoemaking or 'women be the tastemakers for the shit we making'. Put it this way, would you rather smash 5 different chicks and add 5 bodies to your future wive's body count or would you rather smash 5 less chicks and subtract the other 5 to her body count. What I'm sayin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:36 AM
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Yep, like I said promiscuity benefits promiscuous men while it puts women at a disadvantage to their own idealistic position of attraction through them struggling to maintain long term relationships as with time as they age. An experienced man at 30 is more likely to date a 20-24 year old of their dreams than a woman that's 30 dating a 30 year old of their dreams, yet when the woman was 20-24 she was just as likely to date the 30 year old of her dreams. So time negatively affects women that don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:14 AM
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Yeah some women I don't think know they're going to be wooed every time, but for us it's a well thought of plan and intention that at times is planned days before or even months before. We definitely play a part despite it being your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:01 AM
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What I mean by 'experience' is a direct implication that they prefer non-virgins over male virgins, but guys don't definitely prefer more experience from a woman or prefer non-virgins in a idealistic long term relationship. Similar body counts like someone said is also preferred, but if the man is less experienced in all ways, it's normatively deemed as unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 11:51 PM
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I think what you're saying is contingent on a marginal imprecision of the understanding in what promiscuity is, another way of defining it is: demonstrating or implying an unselective approach; indiscriminate or casual when concerning sexual relations.. Being in multiple long term relationship is not promiscuity, the word transient having or characterized by many transient sexual relationships From the first definition means a short period of time e.g multiple sexual relationships that could be …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 11:45 PM
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Yes and thus why promiscuity isn't good for both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 11:23 PM
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Hence why I said promiscuity isn't good for both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 11:22 PM
1

Understanding what promiscuity is, is not me positioning a criteria. The men and women of today can't undo what they've done, yet still they are to understand the effects of it, and who and what behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 11:19 PM
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The guy that just messed up his marriage said the same thing "its just sex" The girl who just caught an STD said the same thing "it's just sex" The teacher who just got knocked up by a 17 year old said the same thing "it's just sex" The woman who just got caught cheating in a 7 year said the same thing "it's just sex" The paedophile who just confessed to a dozen count rape said the same thing "it's just sex" The girl whose pornographic content just got shared to her friends and family said the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 11:14 PM
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No. https://extendfertility.com/your-fertility-3/egg-count/ Here's the chart. It's a 30% reduction which is 300k reduced from 1 million meaning there is still 700k left.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 10:57 PM
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Sorry but if you ask generally most women, their 'ideal' man is definitely not a virgin... because: With men if you're less experienced whilst being preferably older it instinctively implies that there could be something wrong or unattractive with the man and it's counterintuitive towards being hypergamous. Science and research reveals that women prefer hypergamous relationships, where the man earns more or roughly the same as them but almost never less..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 10:11 PM
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Sex in a monogamous relationship (ideal) is different from sex in a open relationship which is also different to just general promiscuity... There is enjoyment, then there is self-loathing hedonistic escapism, with most people go through phases of actualisation. From what I've seen, women that want hypergamous relationships that have had a promiscuous or sexually hedonistic past struggle more than men that go through the same phase. It's a toxic double standard of which feminism itself purports …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:34 PM
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Open relationships are rather niche, and quite clearly don't represent the overall majority of what people; are willing to go through or unequivocally what has been seen in happy marriages/LTR historically. Also what I've seen is open relationships are more common for bisexual couples which features in yet again a very small minority. They are also more likely to be engaged in divorces, separation and breakups etc It's not rhetorical, most people genuinely don't want to be promiscuous when they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 05:49 PM
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Your math is all wrong. 70% is how much they still have thus 700k out of 1 million at that age. By 20 they lose just over half their eggs. I'm not Muslim.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 05:27 PM
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Yes you got that correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 05:17 PM
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It devalues you, since the point is saying yes to someone who is your ideal. So if you're saying yes to lesser males for pleasure, then that puts you right into the hoe box. [ Your value is in saying no to lesser males - thus quality Man's value is in assembling himself to secure women that say no to lesser males. ] This is why guys are more ruthless, we all assume you're pushing multiple digits and treat all women like hoes since a good time ago a woman would meet their ideal man and a women wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:11 PM
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I see a lot women here, trying to denounce or define what a hoe phase actually is, simply because they've been through the same phase. Instead of trying to change something you can't change like your body count, accountability has to be taken. Promiscuity devalues women, and you only learn later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:00 PM
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Simps are the real Incels. They're both desperate submissive males.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 11:56 AM
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It is to be expected but women lose 90% of the eggs by the time they're 30, so conceiving for both males and females is a younger man's game.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 11:54 AM
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Nothing to do with that, sperm quality refers to the fertility markers and it's ability to complete fertilitisation with the egg. Defects are usually genetically caused or through the actual pregnancy itself e.g alcohol intake, smoking, medicine, nutrition, overall health.. of which aren't directly influenced by sperm quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 11:49 AM
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First point I made was that women aren't chanting and praising male virginity thus a more experienced women likely does emasculate a man that is inexperienced. Women prefer experienced men. Second point I was making is that more experienced women tend to find out later that certain types of males will use women for promiscuity but later on not look twice when those same women get older because of that very same promiscuity.... they cream the double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:11 AM
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If 20-30 or 10 years is the max age range of this most. Then yes most guys will want to date 18-23 year olds. Here's why, realistically the actual age range is 5 years between people. Guys 20-23 years old aren't going to mind dating 18 year olds, some may even prefer it. Guys 25-30 years old aren't going to mind dating 23 year olds, some may even prefer it. That's already 'most' guys that are 20-30 that don't mind or will prefer dating girls 18-23.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 04:47 AM
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I'll try and simplify it best, humans are a lot more objective logical thinkers then you'd think.. Bullet points are best because otherwise they'll just be walls of texts since this is a nuanced subject when explained in detail: Women want a man that makes more or the same as a bare minimum generally. Men prefer women that either make the same or less, to activate an evolution long paternalistic instinct in being the provider, and protector etc. Income is often not the indicator of stability, in…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 04:11 AM
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It's not a sexual thing, sexually men probably want women exactly the same age or even older, it's more of a economical thing. Age gap usually indicates how hypergamous a relationship is, and how competitive the relationship will be. Competition is usually how relationships fail, I've seen it happen so many times as soon as a couple starts competing with one another instead of complimenting each other it will fail. Younger women may mean less competition since if a younger women is agreeing to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 09:05 AM
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So you say women are more emotionally intelligent then say that men go for young women because they are less experienced. That doesn't make sense Well that's actually a fact proven scientifically. Here https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5784910/#:~:text=Indeed%2C%20research%20has%20shown%20that,)%20%5B13%5D%2C%20or%20emotional So men are 5 years behind women in emotional intelligence? Then guys should definitely not be in any leadership roles if they are so poorly developed compared to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 08:50 AM
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Good point. I'd say also the more experienced both people are (older they get) they'll feel more like they're settling for an non-ideal relationship because so many options would have been explored equally which can bring about unforeseen competition in the relationship. This is why when breakups happen the man in the relationship will end up looking for a more hypergamous relationship or prefer younger inexperienced girls, and a women will end up settling way harder, so her future man cumulativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 08:08 AM
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You know what it actually is. A women with more sexual experience emasculates a man, that's simply why they're attracted to younger girls because innately some men are attracted to hypergamous relationships for an actual long term relationship. Also there Is a lot men that are simps, simps are basically desperate incels that have been lying to women for the last half century that they don't care about their past (when they actually do) because they're desperate for sex and a relationship. But wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 08:01 AM
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You've just strawmanned every guy into one box filled with your own assumptions for a small amount of promiscuous men that didn't really want a long term relationship. 18-23 is the preferred age range, because it's the one where women have the least experience, men that go for 5-10 year age gaps want hypergamous relationships, and you can't get one if the woman Is more experienced than you. Don't forget women grow up faster, have more emotional intelligence than men of the same age, so usually t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 07:55 AM
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I don't think it's so much they're more attracted to you physically because you're younger, but because you would have done less things. Imagine creating a resume, it's more effective to have been in less jobs but for stayed in them for longer within the relevant fields than being in several or tens of jobs in different fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 07:34 AM
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Just remember sex is from and through reproduction system.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 12:47 AM
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Sex is also how they lose value since It's that much easier. Number of yesses to lower value men vs number of noes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 12:39 AM
1

Yeah how many guys have had a vasectomy, percentage wise.... Like I said, your sexual hyperactivity doesn't represent most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:24 PM
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Its not. Search spermatogenesis... If you're having sex every single day, you're essentially rendering yourself less fertile..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:09 PM
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Your relationship was hypersexualised and doesn't apply for all relationships. Also your ballooned numbers are all over the place. When I married we fucked multiple times a day for the first couple of years, then multiple times a week until (and sometimes after we divorced). Recently I had sex with a partner roughly 800 times when we saw each on about 450 days. If you're having sex multiple times a day for a couple of years then you're already into the thousands. 3 or two times a day everyday fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:54 AM
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Wild estimations. Average couples have sex once a week, which would equate to about 260-300 in 5 years. Have no idea where you got 1000-2000 from. Seems like they're ballooned to fit your point that sleeping with 100 different people is better than sleeping with 1 person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:23 AM
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Nuff of the nuance. It just means an average man by income.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:19 AM
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"A real man" means something else to everybody. But if we just think, mathematically "a real man" Is probably an average man by social economic status. If you're a low earning individual then 3/4 of other men and women wouldn't call you a "real man". If you're above 3/4 of the economic scale then you don't need anyone to call you "a real man" money talks. If you're dead on average then at least half of the population would consider you a "real man". It just means what is mutually considered aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:18 AM
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Some girls might want to sleepy with 100 men that consider sex a reward, but best believe she ain't going to tell no bitch friend about it... As soo much for Enjoying it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:07 AM
1

Definitely more than 10 then
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:03 AM
1

Lol, I don't see what the big deal is about confirming your body count, why all the shame if it's all that liberating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:58 AM
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Clearly goes to show that the relationship would just be predicated on lies. The lie being from the women. By extension you've just outright deemed every women as a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:53 AM
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• N-count more than 1 • Cheating • Low hygiene
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:47 AM
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What are those large numbers for
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:44 AM
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A plural Body count
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:31 AM
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40% of people are obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:22 PM
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Yeah looool. I'm a guy and I know the average dude has a girlfriend or wife statistically. Average = stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:15 PM
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At the same time if we all improve equally, the improvements themselves become miscellaneous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:13 PM
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The average guy has a girlfriend or a wife. In fact women don't want to want guys BELOW average. But would Prefer guys above average, just the same way we'd prefer an 8/10 stunner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:37 PM
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