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DISCUSSIONILU2/r/RedPillWomen15/02/16 05:28 AM
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CMVILU2/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 04:58 AM
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DiscussionILU2/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 06:09 PM
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ILU2/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 04:29 PM
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DiscussionILU2/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 07:45 AM
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ILU2/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/14 05:54 PM
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Question for RedPillILU2/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 07:16 AM
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Question for RedPillILU2/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 08:57 PM
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ILU2/r/askTRP07/07/15 09:17 AM
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Question for BluePillILU2/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 07:43 AM
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Question for RedPillILU2/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 10:51 PM
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ILU2/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:44 AM
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Question for RedPillILU2/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 09:29 PM
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Question for RedPillILU2/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 10:07 PM
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Question for RedPillILU2/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 05:46 AM
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Question for RedPillILU2/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 09:34 PM
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ILU2/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 09:58 AM
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Why would any man choose to be tied down if not for his progeny? This makes too much sense, to be honest. Love and infatuation always end. All relationships encounter conflict. If you've got a man who doesn't want kids because he wants good sex, he'd probably use the relationship while its satisfying, and move on when its not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:04 AM
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Any subreddit devoted to the antithesis of something gradually gets more and more negative until the only people left are the ones who absolutely hate what the subreddit is about. Makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 07:17 AM
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Same. I don't think its become a little more mean-spirited, I think at times their rage consumes them and even when it doesn't, its so angry that TBP is not a healthy place to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 07:15 AM
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Yes. Done consistently and in the kind of rhetoric these guys use... yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 03:59 PM
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The majority of people online are reasonable. Or at least non-partisan. They have their own shit to deal with. By preemptively lumping us with the "modern feminist crowd" who could never stomach disagreement, you've shot yourself in the foot. The reason these normal, uninvested people "side" with the feminists is because they actually try to make a case, and you make it really easy for them to make a compelling one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 12:10 PM
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I'm pretty purple. I've been on both sides of the spectrum. I participated pretty heavily in TBP, and before that(and during it too technically, but for different reasons), lurked on RPW, TRP and PPD. Basically, while most of TRP does make me roll my eyes, and some of it downright disgusts me, some of it has been fascinating. Even if just as devil's advocates and thought exercises, I've enjoyed having been provided nuance to what I previously honestly considered to be the unquestionably correct …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 08:44 AM
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Do you have any historical basis for this pattern? And if you do, is it applicable in any way to a non-linear technologically booming society? Not trying to be confrontative. I'm just trying to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 07:07 PM
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It's not surprising that people who have sexual trauma need something a lot more emotionally charged than having vanilla sex with non-bad boys. holy shit, that is extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 07:21 PM
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In that case, the woman is restricted by her situation. Functionally speaking, very few women are main breadearners. And about 1/3 of mothers are stay-at-home. These women would all be denied a chance to leave the marriage, because of no career prospects outside. Even though they spent their a good chunk of their lives enabling him to earn.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 10:59 PM
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And why not? As a person with a background in law, can you explain why the current legal justification for no-fault is flawed? Personally, I don't think you should have to wait until your partner cheats or hits you to exit a marraige. Why should government force you to stay if you've fallen out of love?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 10:33 PM
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I actually disagree. TRP has managed to come up with a range of interesting and innovative ideas in its short time. And for the majority that they borrow from elsewhere, well, intelligence isn't in just innovating yourself; its in recognizing the right value in others. For its subject matter, I'd say TRP is actually pretty good. But it also incorporates a lot of shit. Stuff that stigmatizes in the rest of the internet. And rightly so.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 06:01 AM
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Don't read so deep into it, bud. I'm not frustrated in the least. I have my answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 05:57 AM
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I think this response is a winner ;)
/r/askTRP08/07/15 05:54 AM
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touche ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 10:10 AM
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Oh, and about the psychopath thing... come on now. She's just upping the ante for the male to qualify. I mean, the man who can ace that shit-test may just well be crowned the king of england. Surely, a good catch of alpha genes for fucking.
/r/askTRP07/07/15 10:00 AM
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She is kinda a stick figure, so I agree with you. i mean, can we all agree real women have curves?
/r/askTRP07/07/15 09:58 AM
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I would but I don't have flair. Can I get some, /u/GaiusScaevolus?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 09:54 AM
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I would but I don't have flair. Can I get some, /u/GaiusScaevolus?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 09:53 AM
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I dunno. Has some caveman-like impression it conveys. As much as women like to deny it, there's a certain receptiveness to people who display social mastery. That cocky guy who walks into your group despite the risk and manages to NOT make it awkward? We'll like him. Same for that guy who's really witty at winning arguments ;) Or stands up to other men. e.g. Tom Hardy(total white knight btw) makes my reproductive system hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 09:52 AM
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broknighting was removed, why not white-knighting?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 09:47 AM
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Thank you, based mod, for responding. OK, what if you disagree with some important aspect of the TRP, but your flair and writing shows you've read and understood the sidebar... you just have contrarian views on some things. For example, could a EC get away with openly supporting say, Anita Sarkeesian on TRP? Or could they get away with calling out the paranoia about false rape reports and not believing women about harassment, being threatened, etc. Could an EC rationally argue those and remain f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 09:46 AM
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To answer my question. Mods dont react to extremism, how would they react to Political correctness?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 09:20 AM
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this one asks about the endorsed crowd though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 05:10 AM
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Hmm... a rational explanation actually. I was hoping for at least one demonstration though. One man brave enough to go up to a mod and say "Hey, literal AWALTs are stupid and dumb and you're being sensationalist" or something. I'd be wet for that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 11:35 PM
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You write this as if it's about having a weird obsession with ECs, OK, not weird, but a bit creepy, if that makes sense. There's just no way to hide it: a bunch of people on the BP spent an inordinate amount of time going through comment histories to collect it. A huge amount of them stalked and in some cases, harassed and baited, ECs into debates (a good portion of the snaps are actually this, which usually follow cornering redpillers on other subs). There was a good amount of melodrama and emo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 11:31 PM
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Oh cmon, help me out here. :) We could probably type each other hoarse and still not find a chink in your red pill armour. So lets skip the foreplay, shall me? What is it about red pill that you secretly dislike? What is that one thing you've been itching to mouth off to a mod about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 11:10 PM
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Yes, but presumably, they're free thinking individuals... Couldn't they ever be one day be like.... "hey /u/redsunblue.... you've gone too far. You've gone and raped your wife." Or who was that EC... I forget.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 11:02 PM
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My current flair is larger than anyone elses and also one of a kind That's so cute. No, really. That is so adorable. Just read it. Regardless of whether or not you guys agree with me its pretty clear that I have carved out a great market for myself snd that both Red and Blue enjoy my writing. No doubt. But the red pill is factually distancing itself from you. Whether they meant to or not, and I'm betting they did. The next time someone albums you... its gonna work that way. The words of the Cour…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 11:00 PM
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I'm not blue pill... im purple. Its way cuter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 10:52 PM
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GLO is our top poster and has the only custom flair on the red pill. He's the single most respected guy on there, possibly battling it out with Rollo. He's not demoted. Rationalize it all you like; this is the start of the new sense of PR that TRP is acquiring. I'm thinking your sub is like a spore... just about ready to burst, and spread. Whether its EllenPao (geddit? :D) that pops you, or whether you attempt it on your own in your own controlled plan, is irrelevant. The Red Pill is far too wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 10:51 PM
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I didn't want to start fangirling or anything. Too late. Anyway, I'm not saddened by this. I'm happy. There's hope for you lot yet. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 10:42 PM
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That's my point. The red pill has far less variety than feminism. I'd say it has far more than /r/thebluepill, but it has far less variety than the blue pill, if you know what im saying. So show me the betty friedan and the simone match up in the redpill. Is there a defining rivalry in the redpill? frankly, I'd settle for a foil to the ill imatableman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 10:26 PM
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Thats... surprising.... if true. So seriously, how do you know he's not making it up? There's an obvious incentive. In his mind, it might be a cheap way to stave off some BP criticism. No neckbeard, to say the least. Very impressive for a redpiller. Doubly so for someone flaired.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 10:24 PM
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Yeah, I meant, western hemisphere. Sorry, not that easy. Please say to a mod that their blanket opposition to feminism, in any and all matters, is wrong. Especially in the face of huge fanatical groups like TRP that want to revert all the progress we've made. I volunteer to report you for it. I mean, seriously, there has to be at least one (or all of them that are not reading this thread. Just for the reactions, we can do this fun thing. you can screenshot me to be your excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 10:20 PM
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That there exists discrimination against women worth addressing and that there needs to exist a womens rights advocacy group to continue to work that cause. I'd like a member of TRP to advocate that. Preferably in a mods face.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 10:00 PM
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I thought RP didn't deal arguments of wrong or right. Why couldn't an EC, speaking purely from the perspective of self-interest, advocate some measure of promiscuity to get a woman happy and with a good husband down the line... if such a scheme existed I mean. I'm too lazy to think of one but I'm sure its been done. If I were RP endorsed, why cant i do that? Questions of "wrong" or "ok" or "should" allegedly don't enter the rational discussions on the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 09:57 PM
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I don't know. I know at least one :) I bring him to the gym time to time as an extra measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 11:06 PM
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If you're marrying a woman, i think that's fiancée
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 11:05 PM
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I think abortion should be allowed in cases of Rape. Serious deformities. Self-defense in the case of mother's own life risk. I think its morally wrong in most cases, like where people just accidentally get pregnant after careless sex, but in cases like the above, there is no alternative and no one can argue that she is culpable. In the case of deformities, that comes from my own belief in the idea of merciful killing for medical purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 01:10 AM
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Its an example of the many instances he criticises PPD. I distinctly remember a post by him where he questions how can PPD call itself a debate when they ban red pill's head mod. He's kinda full of himself a bit. Here though: http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/26c43g/the_purple_pill_debate_is_not_a_debate/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 01:56 PM
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no idea. but its mentioned on and off over on TBP and here, and on TRP. I don't have any concrete details, but as far as ive heard he was banned because he wouldn't work with mods very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 01:53 PM
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TRP also tells its members not to come over to PPD. Especially when Redpillschool was banned. http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1zu3ta/women_talk_men_do/ To topic question though: I think that post you quoted, and the replies in it, just reads like some butthurt. If anyone gets emotionally invested here, imo, they're an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 09:27 AM
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That actually makes a lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 08:07 AM
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ELI5
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 07:51 AM
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There's an old joke: "A dog loves you more than your wife ever could. If you don't believe me, lock each one in the trunk of your car for 12 hours on a hot day and see which one will be happy to see you when you open it." A lot of women spend 12 hours home alone just doing chores and taking care of the baby and are immensely happy to see their husband come back and want to make the day better for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 07:41 AM
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Ahh, I'm not fallign for this again!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 07:37 AM
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Well, it was a CMV thread :/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 05:36 PM
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Don't talk like the things you guys discuss really are anything more sophisticated than ways to say "all women are whores". You're just playing dumb :/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 05:35 PM
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Fine, I don't agree with everything in the rest of your post but I will concede the first portion has some truth to it. View mostly changed. Bias and prejudice has been prevalent for a long time, and I guess its a point of feminist ideology too that it is. But what you're attempting here is sorta an argumentum ad populum. If a belief has been held by a lot of people, that doesn't make it right. We've moved on from red pill beliefs, and we know now that those things aren't the route to a healthy …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 03:46 PM
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if you believe in red pill so much, why not advise them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 07:26 PM
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Interesting. Thank you for typing that out. Gives me something to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 12:39 AM
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I've never seen TBP itself actively organize any of the things you're talking about, so I think it's kind of childish to accuse us all. :/ Um, no. I think any member of this sub knows that TBPers link to their own or other BPers comments in this sub when they are slightly losing the debate. I remember seeing many towards various subreddits(from /r/Food, to /r/askreddit, to following gaylubeoil's innocuous entries on /r/WritingPrompts, to anywhere a RPer or MRA posts really, for the simplest, mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:18 PM
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oh god, im so embarressed. I'm sorry for the trouble. I won't say that ever again. I didn't mean anything bad by the comment, I just thought that the sub gets a little angry time to time. I don't remember much(it was forever ago) but I might've seen successive comments by X, and called it out. Anyway, it was my bad. And I won't comment like this again. I'm sorry. For any offence to X or anyone else. EDIT: Btw, I'm a she. :( EDIT 2: I actually messaged the mods once to get an idea of their though…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 09:41 AM
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An insult does nothing to disprove a position. However, the word sexism has the following definition: sex·ism Prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex. Prejudice stereotyping and discrimination are by definition wrong. prej·u·dice Preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience. ster·e·o·type A widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing. dis·crim·i·na·tion The unjust or preju…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 07:32 PM
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I don't believe in judging someone by their sexual history. Most people I know don't either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 04:37 PM
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Is that due to female abuse going down, or male abuse going up?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 09:55 AM
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Am a woman. I agree with him completely. /u/rulenumber303 is selling the story awfullly short.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 09:09 PM
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It blows my mind too. yuckkkk
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 09:55 AM
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This is a nice, polite response :) Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 09:54 AM
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I enjoy surrounding myself with people who disagree with me (as long as they are kind and civil humans) because it keeps me from becoming stagnant and can broaden or strengthen my own views. I feel sort of similarly, but I think I'd rather we were on the same page on most things, and simply had a different way of approach to the issue. I think actual disagreement really just works to slow you down, without really adding anything productive to either's views. Not something that should be between …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 07:56 AM
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Not a red pill woman, but still have participated on the sub in the past, and i've used their advice(which is good sometimes) to get results. So take it for what its worth. Nope. But I feel like there's social pressure for men and women to be good at different things which tend to produce different results. Not Hillary Clinton. But otherwise yes. Not much of a stance to be honest. I support them, but I think of them in much the same way I think of any one in business, men included. Go get'em. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 07:54 AM
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Are you a RPW?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 07:49 AM
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TBP is a lot harder to define, and its definition changes based on who's using it. That said, I think most people will agree that /r/thebluepill[1] is circlejerky and doesn't really provide any substance itself. That's by design (it's a satire subreddit) but most subs devoted to not being something aren't great. Disagree with that. I think the BP sub has just as many common threads and unique beliefs tying it together as red pill. You cannot present as cohesive a front as TBP does without having…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 04:25 PM
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RPWs think that all women should live the way they do, but it's not the way many women would choose to live. Therefore, RPWs are telling women how to live and denying their right to live their lives as they choose. Your point? Arguably, so is BP. :) And a llooooot of feminism if you think about it. In fact, I have a bunch of friends(+ have read online about this trend too. "You can't win as a woman" I think the phrase they used) who are part of the new group of traditional women who feel like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 03:30 PM
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I welcome this move. Ideally I'd like to see this sub be a big melting pot of views, where people with vastly different viewsets can still talk to each other civilly. Because they can separate their dislike for ideology to their opinion of individuals who hold them. To the incoming retort I'm sure to get: Of course you can dislike a person for agreeing with an idea, but that doesn't mean it has to litter the debate. Spite and emotion and personal attacks all just serve to waste people's time and…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 10:16 AM
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No. I'm not denying women agency. I've been on the receiving end of this stuff. Maybe not redpill, but similar enough. You start out thinking he's a nice guy, or a good friend or even a good partner, and that everything before, even that neg opener or whatever was just random. And then the assholery and narcissism start. The controlling behaviour. The bullshit. RP relationships may be your ideal setting point but I don't buy that most of your relationships last too long. I think a lot of women h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 06:31 PM
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D/s have a lot of consent though. RPers, from what I read of their sub, do churn out of a lot of stories of applying it to new relationships. And a lot of it sounds like there's hundreds of guys running around bullying unsuspecting women into this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 04:16 PM
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What if when he doesn't want to? Shouldn't that be okay? I guess the big "elephant in the room" question left is... why the man? Why not the woman? Or... why not both?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 04:10 PM
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Isn't it accurate though? Not being confrontational. I just thought that much is common sense. Guys do usually want their ego sated. They have a much greater need for it. I get the point made in OP about 'value not being linked to how in-charge you feel" but isn't ego an important male need? Or is the male want you're referring to what WAL said below? "Power and control"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 04:00 PM
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No, the non-rapey things were just in there to not make it obvious they were doing a survey on rape. The rapey statements were things like "Have you ever been coerced into sex against your will after you've made it clear your answer is no" and stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 04:33 AM
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As a BPer, this is a load of crap. No, BPers are not uniformly researchers in any fields. Most of them are circlejerkers and layman posting studies, just like any RPer. I personally find absolutely no difference when a BPer makes a science thread to when a RPer makes a science thread. If anything, its the RPers that are throwing their opinions open to scrutiny much more than blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 04:29 AM
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They run a separate survey where instead of a police report you have to pursue, they describe to them a set of things that are rapey or not rapey and ask them how many of them have had them happen to them. When RPers are presenting arguments that "who is asking and how is the question phrased and what incentives are there to answer a certain way" affects the answer, they regularly use these types of studies. So don't even pretend you guys can dismiss them off-hand now when it suits you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 10:28 AM
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Rude! >:| From your username, I don't know how depressed you are, but that is really really not OK
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 10:22 AM
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Message the PPD mods with that. HHL will be banned in less than a minute. They will be able to take it to reddit admins for further action too. In fact, I can message them for you if you have a link. That you, as a self identified TBPer, disagreeing with my generalization proved that it wasn't accurate, which is what I was saying. ;) Yep. But you were still close. Which is what I was saying. ;) And no, you can accept generalizations and still disagree with those from TRP. We accept the scientifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 09:52 AM
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Can you do an ELI5 please? Explain what this means for the OP. How should we interpret the data and what is the size of the correlation?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 04:57 PM
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On PPD, I've received psychotic death threats from Twerps I was actually in that thread. :P I left a reply too. It was a navy seal copy-pasta. And to be fair, we do the same stuff lots of times. Most of them are stalked constantly. Its actually rare for TRPers to call it out because their sub would mock THEM, meanwhile we would mock them too. I feel sorry for twerps sometimes, but I've learned long ago(I've been here a while) to stop wasting my energy hating as a rule. Its not productive. There …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 04:20 PM
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Mhm. I am. :) I'm just arguing against the point about exceptions disproving generalities. By that argument, trpers aren't all bad or their ideology isn't hateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 05:14 AM
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How so? Flesh out your answer please. I'd like to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 11:50 PM
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It's just an observation that generalities are stupid and that outliers negate conclusions drawn from them. Most TBPers agree with that. I would like to say, as a TBPer, that this is dumb and I do not agree. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 11:47 PM
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Same, my current boyfriend knows absolutely nothing about TRP, and never will. But he is in many ways, just as unmanageable. I love him so much. :) I actually went on RPW a year or so ago, getting advice on locking him down. That said, if I absolutely had to choose. I would date the RPer. I think both FA and TRP would be terrible partners. But, if nothing else, it would be fun to reverse-game the RPer, knowing all of his tricks. :) I would drive him absolutely insane. I would culminate all his w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 10:10 AM
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So you're just ignoring the aspects of TRP that you dislike? I'm gonna chime in here if I can, on just this part. I actually dislike how we actually force them to have a single defined resolute stand when most of them do not hold it, just like the BP side does not hold one. TRP as a sub, officially encourages picking and choosing, yet we encourage an us vs them mentality, further closeting them into RP beliefs by force and cementing them into being a cohesive strawmanned whole all the time. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 09:57 AM
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:| That's quite the rabbit hole of self-links. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2ojivc/uwhisper_on_why_debate_is_pointless/cmomkwm This one I agree with. In fact, make a topic. See what other people say. You know, I'm not the biased BP boogeyman you think I am. I'm mostly "blue", and in some cases "purple". In other words, I know how to keep myself balanced and neutral. You, though, in between talking sense, are completely going off your end. And falling prey to the biases you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 03:59 AM
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Which also includes (shocker) instances were women are, disregarding exceptions that prove the rule, by and large worse than men. So you actually believe in male superiority? That's sort of disgusting. you'll always have an incentive to make your mutual dealings work on some level. But not necessarily to the fair level.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 03:12 PM
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Sexism is basis for judgement. Its like a ad-hom almost. Because the person is a woman and you hold Prejudice, etc for them you'd be less likely to judge them negatively. You could argue that Person A is an idiot because women are idiots. Your argument would be sexist, but could theoretically be right, if person A is actually an idiot. Sexism is what is under question.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 08:51 AM
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Thank you for your response :) I actually enjoyed the conversation in this thread. Helps me get a better understanding. TRPers basically don't mean that you're sexist, but that sexism is overreaching and in principle prejudice, discrimination and stereotypes can be justified. Arguably, this is the same semantical point about rape. Rape that is wanted isn't rape. And so are negative opinions that are correct not sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 03:01 PM
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I know. I was just making a joke on the fact that TRP says asians have a hard time getting any. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 02:58 PM
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What about stereotype and discrimination? How do you not see it as wrong? Yet still apply the label COMPLETELY voluntarily on your own onto yourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 05:40 AM
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No need to be an ass... :/ I'm being polite why cant you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 02:41 AM
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So pretty low then? /i'msorry
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 02:40 AM
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Yes, but the idea you need to be a man to attract heterosexual women is very rational and valid. It doesn't speak of sexism at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 06:09 AM
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That wiki entry was a jargon-laden tl;Dr mess, could you give me a working definition? sex·ism Prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex. Prejudice, stereotyping and discrimination are by definition wrong. So far, you've addressed stereotyping for me. What about the other two? Do note so far I'm talking about RPers that own the label prej·u·dice Preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience. ster·e·o·type A widely held but fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 05:39 AM
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So you would say you unfairly categorize men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 05:35 AM
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Would you say you have wrongfully discriminated against people on the basis of sex? Only under the subheading "wrongful" would "sexism" apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 05:34 AM
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Sexism by definition is based around prejudices, or discrimination though. So scientifically supported differences are accounted for. If you own RP beliefs to be sexist, then you are saying that they are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 01:12 AM
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What if, like I suspect, you get some responses from people who would call equal numbers of women or more women? I'm mostly "blue pill". But even i just hate this argument by now. I've seen it a million times in debate and its pointless as hell and always goes nowhere. It makes me want to play devil's advocate for a topic as repulsive as this even. Some response to this that would call women does not refute that there's a pattern. After this, arguments can be had. You could say sexism. You could…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 12:42 AM
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Thank you. OK, then. How do you reconcile owning that word with its definition? I'm interested in as detailed a rundown of your thoughts as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 12:37 AM
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I understand that, but I'm not talking about the people who don't care about their labelling. I'm talking about people who own being sexist. For example, RP denies charges of misogyny vehemently. They say they do not hate women. Some have even gone as far as to say they are PRO-women(/u/TRPsubmitter, /u/Redpillschool, /u/archwinger, /u/gaylubeoil, /u/whisper) and are not misogynists. Regardless of whether that is true, they dislike the label misogynists. Yet sexism is a label you see time and ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 12:10 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism and also [All dictionary definitions below] sex·ism Prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex. Prejudice stereotyping and discrimination are by definition wrong. prej·u·dice Preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience. ster·e·o·type A widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing. dis·crim·i·na·tion The unjust or prejudicial treatment of d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 12:01 AM
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I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 12:26 AM
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I think there's a tinge of truth to the idea that TRP has good advice mixed in with the crap. OP's contention is that RP gave him advice. The top two replies are about how TRP does not have a monopoly on advice or that TRP's advice is good mixed with ahem "shit". In line with replies further up(and below), how would you say that TRP's ideas differ from other sources of guidance and advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 01:38 AM
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TBP's attempts at advice usually come after challenges to TRP, and usually come as claims that TRP's advice isn't original, and thus can be considered TBP advice too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 01:35 AM
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It doesn't have an ideology, because the only think that TBP has in common is a common dislike of TRP. Everyone is free to see the world as they see fit, TBP just says that TRP is shit. This belief is just plain wrong and needs to die. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2xhiok/blue_pill_required_reading/cp062tv
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 01:34 AM
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All of these plats that they would bang but never date and heaven forbid marry. They aren't submissive/nurturing enough, and most would rather marry a less attractive woman if she was a great wife and mother. It's the same idea and something that women do too. So so much this. I don't think there's a single TRPer here who's even slightly open to the idea of marriage who could deny this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 02:15 AM
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No. I happen to rate other men in comparison to him. Brad Pitt is less attractive to me and turns me on less, than my guy. I literally don't notice his flaws. Or notice them less. because I love him and he's perfect and I wouldn't change a thing. There's no beta bucks here either. We split everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 08:12 PM
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No, both marry the people they deem the most compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 08:11 PM
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But I do lust after him. Deeply. Passionately. And before you ask, from the start, and consistently.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 08:09 PM
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I sorta agree. Most of the time I think the idea that BPers have nothing in common except to ridicule RP to be really... fake. IMO, its just laziness in debate and inability to commit to offering a counter-opinion rather than there not being a set of beliefs generally common to BPers. Because there in fact are. On TBP sub, there are unwritten, but very strict and coherent set of ideas from member to member that seems to resemble a more extreme version of 2XC to even SRS feminism. Anything I see …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 08:06 PM
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The part I agree with is the assertion that ONSs and quick escalations are for 10/10s(in some way). The part I DONT agree with is the assertion that the eventual guy I do decide to LTR/marry is lacking in some way. That he's not as great as things go. I actually happen to like him very much, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:11 PM
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Having an engaging conversation, no. I've seen them in like, videos and stuff(I could link one if you want). But not in person. Sigh. Fine. Post it. I'm curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 03:15 PM
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Also, here's an idea, get the hell off the thread I started if you're sick of responding to me. Fool. I'll leave when I'm ready. You'll find out REALLY quick that I'm not one of those little ladies you can order around like a dog. You get off my thread. :|
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 09:18 PM
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:/// Yeah. But you're anonymous. You don't say things while anon? Are you a stoic alpha all the time? As a matter of principle? To the point you have to say it...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 09:43 AM
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Actually, some of it is actually pretty decent. But its sad how much its undermined by the fact that its an exception in a sea of noise. This is an excellent thread that illustrates: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/2uhr4v/to_the_desi_man_who_keeps_sending_me_and_other/ This was a thread I commented in about Indian guys. My comment on it at the bottom. What frustrated me is that while it did take a pleasant turn of pace from other threads on guys' problems and tried to be empathetic…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 06:08 PM
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[repost, cause genuine question] "Them"? And how does one earn that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 05:59 PM
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Same. I really dislike the bitterness, conspiracies and misogyny on TRP. I also dislike the tone, hatred and bigotry, but its almost embarrassing how the debaters tend to do well with that material, but TBP doesn't try. To be fair, I think BPers feel they don't need to try. And TRP could really never succeed without trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:16 PM
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Its really not that uncommon on TBP either. And this is coming from a (mostly) BPer. Its just easy low-effort stuff on TBP. The average comment lengths for both subs is same. The post lengths on TRP are longer though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:06 PM
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So your point is, to be attractive is to be successful, and thus, women are hypergamous because they pursue successful men? This is a guess because I'm not clear on what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 05:44 PM
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I dunnno what to dispute. This is obvious. The only thing I will say is you don't need to be dominant to be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 05:40 PM
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Ah well. I think you are overreacting tbh... and if you're a moderate, you statistically fall further back in terms of risk. Why don't you just... i dunno, do what the ECs do? Don't give out info besides your city.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 05:37 PM
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why would you need protection? what have you done? I think you guys really overestimate how much importance that's placed on you. There are like 100,000 of you. the chances of you being identified is impossibly small.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 09:23 PM
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lollll that's awesome. most deserving upvotes I've given all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:44 AM
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/u/m_rafay mentioned me apologizing for the link that I posted to TBP. I want to clarify on that, and I guess publically say it straight once too. While he's right, I did, it was mutual... For what its worth, I posted the link I did because he was being really stubborn, and an ass, and treating the whole thing like we were just being stupid. But it is also true that everyone, me included, did not care to stop to ask for any kind of details or clarification, when we should have. The people listen…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 02:09 PM
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Why would anyone need TRP for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 09:42 PM
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BluePill doesn't sort seduction techniques along any ethical scale because seduction techniques are manipulative by design and therefore unethical on the whole. Can confirm. They even dislike /r/seduction. Not quite as much as the RedPill hates seddit, and not quite as much as they hate redpill, but still they come close. I think that's mostly the SRS influence though. Most women approve of /r/seduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 03:22 PM
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I posted the original thread, in fact, I even argued the ban it resulted in with RPWT... but I don't really know anymore. At the time, he never really explained to anyone what he meant, he literally went "whatever bro" to another user when he accused him. And you know the reply he gave to you too calling you a SJW. So when I made the original thread... I was going off the starting statement. Since he later clarified that statement to pixiecut, its kinda hard to be so one-sided anymore. It doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 04:39 PM
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I meant in a bad way. lmao edit for emphasis
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 06:13 PM
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Sometimes, you guys talk and you are so funny and fascinating at the same time. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 05:50 PM
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What they think is fair lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 03:37 PM
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lol wut
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 06:32 AM
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Hey. its a small sub. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 06:14 AM
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Posting history, I guess. I was banned for posting on TBP. By redpillwatchtower I think. Which is kinda wierd because I only talk like I do on BP because if you don't, you get downvoted and banned there. They gave their alreadyred mod permission to post on TBP(/u/nitzi) satirizing TRP but ban anyone not a EC/mod. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 06:08 AM
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Not really. Studies show men operate in groups towards a single objective better, while women maintain better and more inclusive group cohesiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:26 PM
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Very interesting response. But considering you're an EC, here's a question based on that; How do you feel about TRP's notions of love? Men's love and woman's love? Also, bonus question so I'm not just shamelessly advancing agenda (lol sorry): How does your girlfriend view the idea that you love all your previous girlfriends? And do you feel any need to like, do things for her? Or do her feelings matter a lot to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:09 PM
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He kinda did. I think he's just mad he can't be seen. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 10:23 AM
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All of the TRP's methods work. Just not all the time. Or on all women. This is kinda a euphemistic way to put it, but one that communicates best what I want to say to the average RPers here. For this reply, I'll also do away with the idea that the RP's ideas end at "lift, be confident" so you guys will listen to me a little. Fine, "lift, be confident, etc" is the barrier of entry to a lot of content. But that's as far into the red pill as you should go. The mindset involved in applying these ide…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:33 PM
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I honestly think they're whiners. And losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:18 PM
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Its a bit below lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 04:31 AM
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What about you? In what way are you like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 09:59 PM
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preach! idaf either
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 09:58 PM
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You guys believe your own field reports too... its not a bit of a stretch I might be biased to believe mine. They might not be all true, but its not a small sample of people. its much larger than TRP you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 04:14 PM
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Sure, but I thought seeing as there are so many reasonable feminist women here in happy relationships who vehemently reject that TRP's ideas apply to them would have convinced someone. Or maybe they'd lessen their stance on AWALT. You guys don't seem to have that much disdain for each other. At least, IMHO. Do you consider even them to be AWALT? Or them to be indicative of a trend where AWALT does not apply? To a certain kind of woman maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 07:17 AM
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im missing something. what feeling?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:31 PM
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I PM RP ECs time to time. tips; most get more mail than you'd think and most don't really respond "if you don't say something worth responding to". Try and stand out. Butter them up. or message someone who meshes with your views better
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:49 PM
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You ask him?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:27 PM
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wow... 3 years on reddit! I remember signing up for /r/aww and sticking around for relationships... I should've left then :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 05:54 PM
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what can i say, I don't like snipers :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 07:56 AM
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fuck; /u/whisper, /u/we_are_legion, /u/drrrrrr marry; /u/bakerofpie, /u/exit_sandman, /u/fiat_lux_, /u/deepthrill kill; /u/Archwinger(conflicted) and /u/gaylubeoil, /u/redpillwatchtower EDIT: WAIT! We can chooose non-opposite pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:18 PM
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agnostic
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 11:46 PM
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To a red piller though. I imagine that is only opinion and invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 10:42 PM
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Yeah, I read a couple articles where they talked about how the terms slut is mostly aimed at lower class women by higher class women. Or sometimes as a pejorative to just be bitch and create a heirarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 07:51 PM
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A meaningless insult. That says more about the person saying it than the person it is said to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 01:29 PM
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Poor show, bekkar. You're being a troll almost here :( You're both right. You're talking in terms of pure economics, he's talking in terms of the nature of "need", and happiness being a need. But you're not addressing his explanation. you're just saying you're right by now. besides the overt confrontationalness, that's just being childish and low. in another thread, you were complaining about rp doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 06:51 PM
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Oh, I thought you were admitting RP is misogynist. Drats!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 10:45 PM
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Because he doesn't want to compete with any other man. Even ones well in the past. Because that's the issue it comes down to with men who care. Are they better in bed? Bigger? Do I love them best? It turns you off. And don't post the study list alright? Most men who dislike it have no informed reasons. They just want an innocent naive damsel.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 10:17 PM
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que?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 10:13 PM
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I know myself that my preferences have changed. When I was younger, the most important thing to me was a girl's face. Then I started finding big boobs attractive, but asses were asexual to me (I mean, you shit with it, what's sexual about that?). After some time of watching porn, I started obsessing about big and round asses, but still didn't understand men complimenting women's legs. Right now however, I can appreciate a nice long pair of legs. I guess the final stage will be when feet start tu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 10:10 PM
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I always had a lot of guy-friends. So I found out first hand how guys percieved it. Not misogynistic guys... really decent guys. They just preferred less history. Everytime I came onto the internet though. The casual distaste for it became really extremist and hateful. I decided I didn't want to be with anyone who was so insecure. But I still ended up keeping that info confidential. I wouldn't lie about it, but I wouldn't broadcast it either. My current BF knows how many though. And I think it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 06:41 PM
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Elaborate please ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 09:16 PM
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/r/theredpill ba dum tssss
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 12:13 AM
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Get yo adorable white knighting outta heree ;D But seriously, thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 09:21 PM
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And then I'm called a man-hating cunt. seriously? That's fucking rude. >:/ I say link it and get them banned Though as an aside, I'm not trying to discount your experiences but I do think there are RPers that are capable of logical, calm discourse. One of the things I actually learned from discussions with people of wildly different(yet strongly held) opinions was a philosophy for making conversation efficient. If you're interested :), its this... I believe that one should: -Reward good behaviou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 07:38 PM
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I feel dumb :(
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 01:13 PM
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You and me both buddy :) But I'd rather he didn't worship the ground i walked on. I like just a little bit of alpha, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 01:02 PM
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why are you? ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 01:01 PM
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Umm... I think the pertinent point is that a waitress agrees to be objectified... I mean, it is her part in the exchange. The waitress's customer also agrees to be objectified. Its an unspoken contract between them that exists for utility. In contrast, if someone meet a woman casually and they and their friend ignores who she is and what she's saying, and just treat her like a walking sex doll, and pay no attention to her effort to be anything more... that's kinda unfair. Or... maybe, lets say a…
/r/TheRedPill07/12/14 12:59 PM
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True enough. lol. Carry on :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 11:26 AM
1

What do you mean by stockholm victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 10:22 AM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 10:42 PM
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Oh gaylubeoil... Also, you still haven't answered what's her thought process. has she ever written anything in her own voice? Could she do an AMA on PPD for us? You can tell everyone I begged you because I'll do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 10:42 PM
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You know? AWALT? "Like that"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 06:15 PM
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Oh, cmon. Has to be something :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 06:10 PM
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neglecting my GF/wife I think this is an admission of a far greater magnitude. lol care to elaborate? Girlfriend and wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 06:09 PM
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I don't understand... do you want feminism to empower girls to slap? or to be slapped? Or both?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 06:08 PM
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That's kind of a strangely endearing fact about you, gaylubeoil :) I almost don't dislike you now. ;) Just for curiousity though... does she read all of them? I mean... does she... agree? What's her thought-process on them? It just... doesn't compute very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 06:06 PM
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I almost never say no :) I don't think its a negative effect on the quality of sex though. We click pretty well though on when we're in the mood and it helps my drive is kinda possibly than is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 08:54 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 08:18 AM
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hey hey hey. you're doing it here too. Tell us what feelings! :) And include some of them feelings in your tone too. Let it all out, k? We're listening
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 08:16 AM
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But deep down? It feels fucking nice to have power over someone after feeling completely powerless for so long. Sounds like you have something in common with the red pills over in the Red-thread. I think m_rafay described a story that's really similar to yours. It seems he's already been there. Maybe you guys can talk it over how you let go of the power madness :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 08:16 AM
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lol, i'm just kidding. thought it was a funny contrast between the two threads. What could be more ironic than red-blue compatibility. I highly doubt Wearelegion would agree with you Possibly. Btw, its harmless teasing, guy. Don't kill me :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 08:03 AM
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I think you and we_are_legion from the redpill thread would get along well! ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 06:18 PM
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Aw. I think I might have to give you some company there :( In all the ways I've matured, I'm still not 100% there. Any examples you want to share? How you do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 06:00 PM
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I dunno... they just are in the mainstream I guess. They indicate bitchiness and stuff. (Which was sort of accurate... :))
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 05:58 PM
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I don't think there was any possibility of saying any of that in a flattering way. But I applaud your honesty. And thanks for the idea for the thread :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 05:49 PM
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There's no conflict between those, I think. There are millions of feminists, past and present, who've chosen to live traditionally or in ways that might be considered leaning towards traditional. The key word here is "chosen"! Feminists come in all forms, and from all walks of life. They didn't fight for some areas of life because they uniformly thought women belonged there. They fought because they disliked assigned roles. So you shouldn't be ashamed of how you guys choose to live. As long as y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 12:16 PM
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In what sense are you BP? You sound totally RP I'm purple. I just chose not to make a third thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 12:07 PM
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I'll start: -I am... ahem... like that. I DO think I've grown out of it. And I have... a lot. But... I did use to put the entire burden of keeping a relationship emotionally satisfying on him. I didn't think about it that much or put it in so many words but in effect, I used to expect my boyfriends to be mind-readers. And if they weren't, I punished them for it. Or resented them. I wanted them to just get me. And know what to do at all times. I unconsciously did stuff like "shit tests", I guess.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 08:18 AM
1

You find it acceptable to say about women. Why not men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 05:39 PM
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There are thousands of red pill guys and girls roaming other reddit forums like sex or relationships giving kinda unwelcome advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 10:39 AM
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You know, I really find AWALT to be a ridiculous statement. You guys do know that RP regularly applies the same tactics as TBP to end up seeing what it wants to see. On one hand, you accuse your detractors of cherrypicking, and on the other you use every single anecdote and cherrypicked example to portray the world like you want it to seem. You know, lets focus on something easily agreeable and concrete for just a second. TRP regularly takes the mic out of woman posters on /r/relationships, /r/s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 09:58 PM
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A) Red pillers tend not to be MRAs. And why not? You have a flair for it and discuss it every day
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 08:14 PM
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Yes, I have actually. I was called a virgin and prudish from my late teens till ehhhhh 22ish i guess. Which is weird because I think of myself as decently promiscuous. I was just careful who I became that way with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 08:09 PM
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I endorse this view because under the same logic, TRP can also claim innocence of all its faults. Or claim people as RP even when they're explicitly not. I think both sides of the issue are really stuck up and force themselves down your throat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 08:04 PM
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The hypocrisy of TRP shines through here I think. The men would be seen as adults trying to make the relationship work regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 08:00 PM
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animal A living organism that feeds on organic matter, typically having specialized sense organs and nervous system and able to respond rapidly to stimuli. Hm. Can't say I disagree. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 07:57 PM
2

Haven't been on in a while. Loving the experiment :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 07:55 PM
1

What a nice thing to read on TRP :)
/r/TheRedPill29/11/14 01:19 PM
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Care to name examples? In detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 03:48 PM
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I'm not active enough to mod but I'll subscribe and participate :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 02:40 PM
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I kinda see OP's point, but I'm not sure about this. The camera was hidden.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 09:29 PM
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I'm not going to defend TRP. I don't think it is better. But at least they gave me reason when they banned me. The rule I broke was made clear, the warnings given and the mods were calm and reasonable. And the poster who was attacking me for my criticism was banned as well. TBP flat out told me that "Mod abuse is fun". The post in question was me making one VERY reasonable reply providing context explaining why I'm not a brainwashed doormat. AFTER finding out I'm being subjected to disgusting vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 09:18 PM
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I'm blue pill but I'm not TBPer. I think /r/TheBluePill are a bunch of bullies and catty gossipers and sjws with no lives. I don't find any value to be a part of that crowd. Where you can't express a single deviant thought without being downvoted, insulted and at risk of being banned. Even though I cannot and will not accept TRP, I do like the idea of figuring things out. Sadly, there's only the red-blue divide where these conversations are taking place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/14 08:36 AM
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Like literally everything? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 07:04 PM
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You're in charge of that data collection :)
/r/RedPillWomen31/10/14 06:13 PM
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Finish two books. In one month? :O
/r/RedPillWomen31/10/14 06:12 PM
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No more interrupting and speaking over people. I'm a bright girl. I'm a reasonably well-read girl. As a consequence I'm also opinionated, loud and forget to shut up. I need to work on that. Don't think of it as "shut up". Think of it as learning to listen too. :) (I'm going to copy your number 3, and I love your blog and think you're pretty)
/r/RedPillWomen31/10/14 06:10 PM
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i want to get a flat tummy I want to stop myself from getting angry at my boyfriend and provoking him. I want to work on my art. Stop procrastinating. And getting anxious. And being lazy. I really really need to work on this I don't have a blog, but I'll post at the end about something :)
/r/RedPillWomen31/10/14 06:09 PM
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Yeah, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 12:56 AM
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I think I give great advice to women, but not so great advice to men. The reason I say that is a lot of the time when I give advice to a male friend, he thinks we're flirting. And if he fails with her, then... :/ I really really have bad experiences from giving guys advice. And I guess I'd be useless with helping him to 2-3 casual sex partners anyway. That sounds ew to me anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 11:19 PM
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this thread is already buried. And you're anonymous. don't be shy. :) But ok, if you like.
/r/RedPillWomen27/10/14 07:42 AM
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How old are you if you don't mind my asking? And sorry for not responding. I just don't log into reddit that often.
/r/RedPillWomen27/10/14 03:47 AM
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Guys will generally message anyone. 80% doesn't mean they won't try, or they won't score. Just that they're getting the scraps. Think of like how 80% of the karma is owned by the 1% or 50% of global wealth is in the hands of half a % people. So with guys who sleep around. You might have already seen rape stats that say that over 60% of rapes are done by the same small group of men who do it like a dozen times. So it is with casual sex.
/r/RedPillWomen26/10/14 04:51 PM
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YEY! Something I can help with! I've had some success. I got hooked up with a really funny guy on OKCupid, who I later found out kiiiinda got around. If you know what I mean. Online and off. But we ended up hitting it off. A lot. He was really really enjoyable company, extremely good looking, knew exactly what to say, and was someone who's a leader but still gentle and loving in all the important ways. But I also had a lot of trouble getting him to commit. It happened eventually though. We didn'…
/r/RedPillWomen22/10/14 08:11 AM
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where people won't immediately reject biological truths. :) Hi Btw. I'm not new but I'm not old either. Happy to be here! I'm 21, committed to a boyfriend of 6 months you guys would never approve of, yet you still helped me get... aaand that's it :)
/r/RedPillWomen22/10/14 04:33 AM
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Sorry. This thread is just making me realize just how not worth it these guys are listening to anymore. Certain lines they say are just too hypocritical to not be infuriating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 06:03 AM
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[Duplicate, sorry]
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 05:56 AM
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My boyfriend isn't anything like that. Guess i'm safe then. Thank you for your ridiculous and judgy opinions. Based on absolutely no facts whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 05:56 AM
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Insisting that everyone else is wrong just rubs me the wrong way. I don't doubt that TRP works for some people for example, but I also don't believe it is as universal as they think it is. Then go your separate way. We didn't invite the constant emotional and psychological torture of harassment and ridicule for making our own decisions. And living our lives how we want. I love my boyfriend. I don't hate myself. I don't even buy into all of RP. But I do know I've come to despise TBP. Time and tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 05:54 AM
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That seems a bit extremist. But from both of you. I really hate how non-cognizant of themselves Bpers are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 04:52 AM
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But the reverse is obviously true? :) I'm on anyone's team but that was a valid point. How everyone thinks their war is justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 08:18 AM
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Elaborate the counter-argument. i've heard that a lot but don't know why RPers disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 07:58 AM
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I'm not going to lie. I don't like red pill. But this isn't really the best way. why can't we not do that stalking thing? Why do you have to do the case studies to understand red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 07:23 AM
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"I'll break up with you if you don't do x," would you do x to stick with him? He wouldn't ever say "I'll break up with you". He could just say "I want you to do x. It'll make me happy" and I'd do it. If you were to get into a fight or be unfulfilled by the way your relationship was going, say because of the focusses that your bf had or the way he treated you or didn't treat you, what priorities might you look at? I think love is the most important thing in the world. And I think I'd be very sad …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/14 04:21 AM
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My boyfriend... He's really important to me. First thing that came to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/14 03:09 AM
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;_; I want somebody to talk to me like that. Why doesn't the red pill teach romance? That is a sexual strategy toooooo....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/14 03:06 AM
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After banning, I asked TRP mods why, and they never answered. I actually have 4 accounts on reddit(only 1 of them is my main and is active. 2 of them are throwaways for /r/relationships of which this is one and one of them is gonewild). I managed to get 3 of them banned on TRP. In my experience, when I asked right after I was banned, the banning mod cited me a rule break and post in question. This happened twice. The last time, I wait a while, like maybe 2-3 days, then they were completely silen…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/14 09:18 PM
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eh, im lazy but im sure there was already a thread on this. believe what you like
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/14 06:27 PM
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Femininity :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/14 06:26 PM
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eh, its not that bad. one is espousing common norms... the other is espousing questioning of those. I think there's a certain amount of entertainment value in just how willing to say non-PC stuff casually and in a civil manner they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/14 12:31 AM
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Actually sex workers even where its legal are pretty outspoken against feminism. A quick google would reveal this. You're being disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/14 12:19 AM
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I'm still interacting with TRP, and dear god sometimes reading this sub feels like catching a drop of liquid shit in your mouth. Any recent examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 12:16 AM
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lool! you guys are cheeky for a debate sub
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 12:12 AM
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Endorsed contributor I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 03:18 PM
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It has nothing to do with me being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 05:21 AM
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I don't want you to die... :(
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 05:20 AM
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Please remember: this is my personal opinion. I would ask the mods to curtail the hate-speech. And threats and calls to violence. I would re-draw the terms of service to curtail other subreddits too. I think from talking to certain ECs and mods, I think some of them do have good intentions, and some reasonable ideas but I really think they are misguided and creating an atmosphere that has potential to unleash a lot of great harm. And it should be delayed. Or used to guide that bubbling negative …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 12:26 AM
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lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 03:16 PM
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come again? I dont get what you mean :(
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 02:46 PM
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You should convert this into its own post btw! Perhaps if you get an answer it might change your mind. If not, you can just discard the idea of debate under the knowledge you tried. :o) Or atleast for now, and definitely not forever. I hope. For what its worth, you're one of the handful of RP users who've managed to convinced me. :) I mean... i dont want to snowflake or whatever. and its not welcome i know. But I'm just saying... RP's viewpoint probably doesnt have anything to hurt by experiment…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 04:13 AM
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I don't mean thattttt.... I mean, you're implying if not outright stating that HE INSULTED YOU because you're a woman. Which is totally left field for me.. I think its just a bad tactic since its dishonest and also seems like intentionally distracting from the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 03:40 AM
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Yeah, maybe. But its completely irrelevant to be flinging at the poster you're talking to right now. Its just dishonest. Feels like a dive and hiding behind being a woman just because you've been called a word. whether that word was used rightly or not, doing that's just pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 02:06 AM
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Having feelings, opinions, interests, whatever. None of it makes me bad or "solipsistic." Don't tell me I'm solipsistic because I demand basic human decency and human rights and gasp I'm a woman. I'm a human being and I'm not evil, ignorant, solipsistic, or a whore for being female or for making a comment on an internet forum. you had some good points until you started doing this. This is cringeworthy to read. Have some dignity as a woman and stop diving like you're a soccer star lol I can't dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 11:32 PM
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Long story short; that comment disgusts me. From the moment I've found RP, going on it gives me a bit of sadness. I don't read most RP users, or the sub anymore. I got what "value" I needed. Now I don't even go on it on my main account(which my SO knows). I just have a few people from RP RES marked who I think are really sensible, and often insightful. Even if they're harsh sometimes, they make good points. I don't include IM among them. I think as much as he thinks women are shit, they might th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 11:19 PM
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Too late. Already really creepy. Btw, its strange to see a RPer call out slut-shaming. Good on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 07:11 PM
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Really really well put :) Why don't i see you around here moree?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 03:03 AM
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what.... its not a secret society. And I am not horrified. Nor am I a victim. Nor led to believe anything about the meaninglessness of my experiences or that my speaking of them is wrong. Please spare me the pity. You are needlessly making a character judgement and making yourself into a victim and just in general proving yourself ignorant. A rule across debates that is actually very much universal(from my experience during college in model united nations) and just common courtesy as well; In a …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 11:54 PM
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Um, no... you're inserting yourself into a hypothesis in an effort to disprove it. which is a clear fallacy. saying only a person who is an expert can say an idea and be right, is also a fallacy. and to the OP's question "Does a fantasy speak of a desire?", from documentaries on fetishes that include rape fantasies(which like 60%+ of women admit to having so its not even a fetish) always go into evopsych reasoning around it. they do say, in more polite and species wide terms, what the gentleman …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 08:13 AM
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Sure, but its a hypothetical argument. It never refereed to you. NAWALT always applies. Its not really a counter-point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 12:01 PM
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Who said strangers?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 11:47 AM
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not sure that was the point. and NAWALT is not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 10:45 AM
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Isn't that just saying NAWALT? Why is that relevant at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 10:28 AM
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see, you're good at explaining. But then there are flaws in your reasoning too. The people in RP that describe machiavellianism would then just say "Plan the parts that give validation". Take for example when you say "Don't criticise TRP". You dont say "we are our own sub and its irrelevant." or "women shouldn't derail discussion being gossip-y or complaining" or I dunno! Whatever reason you guys have. Instead You just say "don't" and it ends up being poor example of leadership, making both you …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/14 11:49 PM
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Actually calling some RPers crybabies is still sensical. There are a lot of pathetic complainers and whiners in that sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 02:38 PM
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You should've used a google docs form to collect easily collectable data.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 02:24 PM
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Youre not nice in RPW either. :C But its ok, because I often see your point. :3 Its a shame you don't like explaining though. because you're really good at it. even your short comments are superstrong. especially when you want to make a point. but you dont follow up on it. you know, a lot of women are catty and find themselves being catty to each other or atleast SOMEBODY, and RPW is no exception. The good part is they are being catty to themselves, and are their own worst critic, but I think it…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 01:56 PM
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I realize this is a well-thought out and good reply, but its not relevant to the question. The question's only about getting some negativity out of the system of the sub, and highlight the good in an effort to produce more of the good.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 12:55 PM
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Fine. 2. But what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 12:49 PM
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I think you're a great debator too :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 12:39 PM
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Thirded. I'm not usually on the sub but I remember my view changed sometimes. And since no one is going into examples about anyone. I have some saved. I liked the one about the documentary and the one about reforming as a former slut from my thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 07:01 AM
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If I had to pick some, I like /u/homo_homini_lupus and /u/we_are_legion when they're nice and logical, and both have changed my view on numerous occasions in the past. /u/archwinger in his own way, though he gets crazy at times and he isn't around much nowadays. /u/densweed is cool too. and /u/drrrrrr too when he drops by.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 06:55 AM
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You should do a post elaborating on those points. I'd read it. Props on being balanced and self-aware. As well as gender neutral for once. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/14 03:06 PM
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I don't mind the humble-bragging, it just makes my point. I don't want to shame sexual preferences, I just want to highlight a double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/14 10:18 PM
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maybe 1% of women can use their looks in the way that we are legion describes, just like 1% of men can live the Hugh Hefner lifestyle. Nah, I'm usually BP but I'm with him on this. I'm a girl who watches a lot of porn(I'm bi) and enjoy it, and not a sizable chunk of the women are more attractive than I am. I'd say I'm a 7 btw. Hell, most prostitutes are just... average. Or even worse than average. Its just dishonest to say you have to be a supermodel to sell sex. Super-models get to wear expensi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/14 07:17 PM
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Sorry I couldn't provide a more comprehensive answer. I may look into making an anonymous poll asking about relationship status and RP/RPW reading/participation if I can find a good site. If you have any suggestions or recommendations, I'd be thankful to have the information. Google docs! Just log in and create a form. And then use a link to have people fill it out. Make sure its comprehensive and relevant. Later you can use google or infographics stuff to make neat graphs and good presentation.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/14 06:27 AM
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You're supposed to one-up the D's.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/14 07:51 PM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2572202/Do-YOU-lie-sex-number-Women-reduce-figure-men-exaggerate-lovers-theyve-had.html[5] OK, then, lets use a link which actually says how much. Let's say women exaggerate 20% down to look less promiscuous, men exaggerate 12% up to seem more virile. RP says most women are whores. Sex studies show women consistently report having sex much less often then men. So lets say we correct for this a bit. Males 30-44 report an average of 6-8 female sexual partn…
/r/TheRedPill22/08/14 04:12 PM
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Another question: (Since you're a mod and answering nicely) How much is the actual cross between RPW and TRP. i.e. how many people in RPW would you say are dating people active on RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 03:33 PM
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I love all 3 of these points. I wish we could make them sticky. Though to be fair, BP side does this just as much. Especially the last bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 03:29 PM
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Many of them women. At least for chris brown. hvnt followed war machine
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 03:06 PM
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There's nothing wrong with that since many RPW wait for commitment/exclusivity from a gentlemen before engaging in bedroom activities. Wouldn't that make him next you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 02:57 PM
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And it is why we go through a lot of women before settling. I think that's because you almost always expect her to devote herself to you first, before you'll consider doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 10:07 PM
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lol, I don't think most RP men look for RPW. A few of the newer ones might, but there's a very practical reason why the older guys don't. We know their tactics, and they're reliant on them. Most of what RP does that gets them success or power in a relationship has to be explicitly allowed to happen if we know. At which point, we're just letting them have their fun. I'd argue out of love ;) /u/M_rafay is right. The actual crossover between RPW and men on TRP might actually be very small.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 09:23 PM
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I really liked that first and second link :) Consider my mind changed a little. The third one, I think needlessly goes into TBP. You can illustrate your side without feeling the need to call out the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 06:46 AM
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In a way, its completely valid. The term: alpha male formally means the one with the most resources and females. He's the one that reproduces the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 05:46 AM
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source?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 05:30 AM
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pls stop
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 05:22 AM
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http://curiosity.discovery.com/question/are-women-more-emotional-men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 01:54 AM
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They're defending themselves. That's not an biased action. Its the difference between "Psst... what's going on in your club" vs "ahaha, I want to gloat, cult/explain yourself."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 06:00 PM
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Not defend themselves... offer honest insight. What you are doing is just really low and what is wrong with this sub. I didn't expect BPers to behave like this. I'm sorry to come down harshly, but I really wanted to avoid insults and attacks like you see in the other subs. Even I've done that there, but I wanted evidence based discussion here...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 05:52 PM
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Btw, this comment is full of snark and condescension and insult. The OP specifically asked for reasonable and unbiased opinions. Hmm, this is true. Please provide evidence and examples for what you're saying everyone, especially if the other side is likely to disagree. As it is, /u/cleganebowlhype, your comment aren't a debate or argument... its just a lot bitter and hurling insult. I can get plenty of that on TBP and SRD. I came to PPD for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 04:57 PM
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Don't you run a woman's sub? Also... I'm pretty sure I have female bodyparts... yep checked. female bodyparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 05:55 AM
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That was actually really... surprisingly insightful... Colour me a little more purpled. :) Sometimes you guys do have the right attitudes... (and yes, I do use your techniques against guys)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 03:30 AM
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I'm replying to RPS, can I get some gold?
/r/TheRedPill24/07/14 07:44 PM
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I mean this is literally a pretty shitty way to ignore the principle and just twist the question. You could be a politician. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/14 08:09 PM
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At some level that's all you really care about when you do these things, right?
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 03:46 PM
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I'm not a RPer but as a guy, I do think its overrated asking women for advice on what their preferences are. Its one of the few RP phenomenon I actually agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 07:02 PM
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