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| 13 | Feminism stops when the hard parts of equality beginLol. You do realize you are literally the walking embodiment of the 4th panel right? | /r/FeminismStopsWhen | 10/09/19 02:18 PM |
| 2 | When discussing disparities in equity within the sexual marketplaceThere's this thing called clitoris, and you can stimulate it whether or not you're circumcised, and during PIV sex with the way you thrust, by other means, or even give a couple orgasms before penetrating her! The primary factor that determines whether or not a woman orgasms (if she actually can) is whether or not the man cares to learn what actually works for her and applies himself to being good at that. You don't need a study to tell you this. Just ask... every woman ever. | /r/FeminismStopsWhen | 18/08/19 05:33 PM |
| 2 | When discussing disparities in equity within the sexual marketplaceUm.. I don't think that's how female orgasms work mate. | /r/FeminismStopsWhen | 18/08/19 02:56 PM |
| 1 | When you look like THIS..That's a good idea. I think we all know what the results would be if beta Bob or neckbeard Nick said these things though. | /r/FeminismStopsWhen | 17/08/19 01:19 PM |
| 1 | Women's standards for men actually go up with age, not downThe more desirable a man is to women (alpha/ lover) the more high quality options he has for casual mating (male imperative). The more options a man has, the less likely he is to commit to one woman (monogamy/ female imperative), and the more likely he is to cheat or stray with a younger and hotter model once his ltr has popped out a few kids and aged 15 years. Thus the equation is simple: The hotter/ more alpha/ better lover a man is, the more risky of a bet he is for long term commitment. And … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/19 12:29 AM |
| -2 | Women's standards for men actually go up with age, not down1000% 'Dirty old cradle robber' is just a bitter shame tactic used by women who are past their prime and wish they could have all that privilege back. And are painfully envious of the fact that, all things being equal (baseline looks, status, career development etc) men get better with age whilst women inevitably decline 🤷♂️. Bottom line, unless you're a natural alpha or in the top 5% of attractiveness, life is hard for a dude in the teens and early 20's, while it's nothing but privilege, rewar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/19 09:01 PM |
| 0 | Women's standards for men actually go up with age, not downWell I am 38.. so I look 38 by definition. But I was always a high 8 in the face, and eat well, sleep well, and exercise as a mode of being. So that helps obviously. But yeah, I look younger than most of my mates my age. Usually women guess I'm 28 ish, and are shocked when I tell them my real age. Then start rationalizing and qualifying why it doesn't matter or they find it hot 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/19 05:19 PM |
| 0 | Women's standards for men actually go up with age, not down38 year old man here. Dated nothing but women between the ages of 21-26 since I hit 30. Go out regularly and pick up or get numbers without fail. Not only are hot 20 somethings not rejecting me for dudes their own age, they rationalize to me out loud their justifications for choosing me after they find out my age. If you were a good looking alpha dude in your 20's and you stay in shape, you'll do even better in your 30's. I promise. EDIT: And yes my standards are very high. I only approach women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/19 04:31 PM |
| 0 | Women's standards for men actually go up with age, not down38 year old man here. Dated nothing but women between the ages of 21-26 since I hit 30. Go out regularly and pick up or get numbers without fail. Not only are hot 20 somethings not rejecting me for dudes their own age, they rationalize to me out loud their justifications for choosing me after they find out my age. If you were a good looking alpha dude in your 20's and you stay in shape, you'll do even better in your 30's. I promise. I also know from being a man, and what all my male friends and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/19 04:27 PM |
| 2 | Why do people despise MGTOW?It is releiving we can recognize that is different from guys who are just venting about their frustrations about women, imposed by women. Many (or most) are just that. Sorry you had a bad experience there in the past. That was actually long before my time tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 01:01 PM |
| 1 | Why do people despise MGTOW?Yes, the karma was that she was being bullied for fucking the football team. Well that's abhorrent. Bullying is about as toxic as it gets, and fucking the entire football might say something about you, but it's certainly not deserving of abuse or death. EDIT: What I meant by instant Karma, was more along the lines of a woman being abusive to a man or abusing some type of privilege and then it backfires horribly on her. Which honestly to me falls in the same category as instant justice videos whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 12:56 PM |
| 2 | PPD women who claim that PPD men can not possibly be high SMV are either admitting that they themselves are low quality females or intellectually dishonest.Alright then. I guess I have some digging to do. I know I've received several directed at me, but I'm fairly active and not sure how far back I have to go. Haha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 12:54 PM |
| 0 | Why do people despise MGTOW?Yo, all I want is for the mods to have taken a stance against making fun of someone's suicide and being glad she killed herself all the while demonizing her character. Link? I haven't seen this on that sub (not that I don't believe you, as I'm sure there are a handful of actual women hating incels who've infiltrated). But most of the posts fall into one of the following categories: Positive:: 'Look at where I'm vacationing right now' Memes: 'This is why marriage is dangerous in 2019' Mocking: 'L… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 12:51 PM |
| 1 | PPD women who claim that PPD men can not possibly be high SMV are either admitting that they themselves are low quality females or intellectually dishonest.So I need to literally go quote mining through old posts and comments just for this CMV to go live, when anyone who's been on the sub for any period of time has seen or received exactly the logical fallacy I'm describing here? Why is that? I'm quite certain I've seen numerous meta posts in PPD describing categories of arguments or claims that are often made by one sex or the other, or TRPers in general, and never have they been required to hyperlink to actual comments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 12:39 PM |
| 1 | Why do people despise MGTOW?Umm.. I'm afraid that's not how open forums work, no matter how badly you or Google might want them to. I don't want to have to listen to smug, obnoxious, and entitled children with no life experience as they morally condescend to me from their sheltered little upper middle-class bedrooms in their parents houses.. but it happens all the time. Welcome to the internet. In a place where anyone can come in and give their opinion at any time, you always risk encountering the abhorrent while in search… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 12:34 PM |
| 11 | Why do people despise MGTOW?I think this is not quite a fair or balanced assessment. It's an open forum, and like any other such space it attracts people of all kinds. Of course a sub dedicated to men shunning traditional gender expectations and looking out for themselves is going to attract its fair share of genuine misogynists, as well as incel types and kissless virgins who use their 'choice' as a hamster to avoid the pain of rejection. But it (for a fact) started among and still comprises a very sizeable contingent of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 10:02 AM |
| 1 | PPD women who claim that PPD men can not possibly be high SMV are either admitting that they themselves are low quality females or intellectually dishonest.Dozens and dozens of variations of that example from comments in this very sub? How am I meant to provide this evidence? Here's just one example (of literally dozens) of a female commenters response to my pointing out that shaming a person for holding views that differ from hers is not a valid argument. Women are not the only ones who shame you. Men do too. You're pointless socially and biologically and so long as you stay out of sight and mind and pay your taxes, all is well. Viable men cannot … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 01:57 AM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP is negative, misogynistic and likely harmful to some people. Tone does matterMen who actually have gone their own way are too busy making shit happen for themselves in this world to be writing and posting 2000 word screeds on evul feminisms and waaaah! women can kill babies in broad daylight in front of 1000 people and be elected president while men get the chair for running a red light. Straw man, appeal to extremes, AND no true Scottsman fallacy. You actually managed to fit 3 disqualifying logical fallacies in one comment. Bravo 👏👏👏 Doesn’t make you special. Never said… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/19 03:40 AM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP is negative, misogynistic and likely harmful to some people. Tone does matterWhy do you assume that's my only claim to MGTOW? And what makes you an authority on what is and is not MGTOW? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/19 03:37 AM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP is negative, misogynistic and likely harmful to some people. Tone does matterViable men cannot be MGTOW sorry No true Scottsman fallacy and sour grapes. I got two kids already, so I'm clearly 'viable'. And routinely fuck hot women 10 years my junior. Don't be mad just cuz men are getting wise to your nature and steering clear of the trap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/19 03:22 AM |
| 3 | CMV: TRP is negative, misogynistic and likely harmful to some people. Tone does matterFair enough. I can't say how many of them have never been laid and using mgtow as an excuse or crutch. But I do, for a fact, know many who are objectively very well off and attractive dudes who are basically just over it and happier investing their time and resources on themselves and their future, and fucking the odd random hottie when the need to bust inevitably arises. Plus, in my experience, once you cross a certain threshold of fucking enough 7-9.5s, it really does lose its novelty and appe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/19 08:36 PM |
| 5 | CMV: TRP is negative, misogynistic and likely harmful to some people. Tone does matterFemale shame tactics 101, plus a sizeable dose of sour grapes. 'Oh, you're hip to female nature and choose not to get involved. You must be a basement dwelling neckbeard, and can't possibly be the type of man that women literally fight each other over'. Stay tuned for more news at 11. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/19 08:25 PM |
| 4 | CMV: TRP is negative, misogynistic and likely harmful to some people. Tone does matterI disagree. Maybe 'many', or 'most,' of them are. But I am a gainfully employed, near seven figure, objectively 8+ dude, with an n count nearer to 100 than not, several LTRs, and one marriage on the books, and I've gone MGTOW due to my ample experience with the 'fairer' sex. And I know many similar guys on there too. Being a sought after commodity, and knowing what I know about the law and female nature, shunning commitment with women in general is the only reasonable option. I still fuck tho. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/19 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Marriage minded people, how much do you worry about “divorce rape”?Yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/19 11:40 PM |
| 2 | Marriage minded people, how much do you worry about “divorce rape”?Statically, not all marriages are created equal. That's not how statistics or probability work. Men on PPD have been predicting my divorce for like 5+ years. Still hasn’t happened. I'm not predicting anything. I'm talking about likelihood and probability. And the reasons why more and more men are smartening up and shunning marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/19 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Marriage minded people, how much do you worry about “divorce rape”?What if the machines become sentient and kill us all? There’s always a “what if.” One is far more statistically probable than the other. One should apportion their skepticism and caution in accordance with the likelihood that an event will occur. We have no prior instances of sentient AI, let alone hostile ones. We have billions of prior failed marriages, and they occur at a rate of greater than 50%. Why would I spend one minute worrying about him possibly, someday, maybe becoming unhappy and le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/19 03:47 PM |
| 0 | Marriage minded people, how much do you worry about “divorce rape”?What if you stop enjoying your job so much? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/19 03:28 PM |
| 1 | Marriage minded people, how much do you worry about “divorce rape”?But if you spend any significant amount of time worrying about divorce I’m not sure marriage is right for you. It's also turns out not to be right for 70% of people who don't worry about it at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/19 03:21 PM |
| 0 | Marriage minded people, how much do you worry about “divorce rape”?1000% alimony | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/19 03:20 PM |
| 5 | Marriage minded people, how much do you worry about “divorce rape”?When your kids are grown up they actually do see the truth if that helps. I know, and thank you. I travel across the world to visit them for about 1 month 4 times each year, because it's the only way I'll have any relationship with them at all. It costs a fortune but it's worth every penny. And the reason I know they know the truth is because they are getting older, and they can tell the difference between the genuine love and paternal guidance I offer them and the abuse, lies, and emotional man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/19 03:11 PM |
| 7 | Marriage minded people, how much do you worry about “divorce rape”?That's a HUGE 'as long as'. Parental estrangement through lies, slander, and interference with visitation etc are pervasive, as is child neglect and abuse at the hands of the parent with primary custody (usually the mother). This what I (and my children) are dealing with. She has actively worked to estrange me from my children by taking them across the world, denying even a bi weekly video call, and trash talking me to them, and I've only recently uncovered an ongoing history of severe neglect a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/19 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Marriage minded people, how much do you worry about “divorce rape”?I give my ex $3500.00 in child support and alimony. I offered that and she took it out of court. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/19 02:49 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Most men severely underestimate the work women do in terms of working out/diet to just "not be fat".I mean, I legitimately don't believe in "spark", You're quibbling over semantics. A man with a reasonably built chest and arms and tapered waist wears a fitted dress shirt or fitted T better than a guy who doesn't. Women notice this, whether consciously or unconsciously and whether they admit it or not. And if you're not getting a least a little physical with the men you're flirting with, then you're in the minority of women (and most likely doing it wrong.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/19 03:14 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Most men severely underestimate the work women do in terms of working out/diet to just "not be fat".(side note that all this talk of abs makes me wonder if these guys all live in hot climates? You don't, where I am, know if a guy has abs or not until you're taking off his clothes, even arms are generally covered, at which point surely you're already attracted to him) Every girl I've ever flirted with and escalated to being in close proximity while out in public has eventually touched my arms, chest, and yes.. abs. Through my shirt. And even before then, the difference between having a solid ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/19 06:09 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: Since many of you men proved they want a skinny girl who fasts herself to stay skinny, who would you consider for LTR among these 2?I'm a man. I only eat one meal a day. Only eat out on occasions, and pick the healthy options when I do (and leave the unhealthy stuff on the plate). I also don't eat sugar, don't drink except a glass or two of red on a rare occasions, and only have dessert as a rare luxury. Dudes who wanna stay lean gotta do it too luv. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/19 03:27 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Most men severely underestimate the work women do in terms of working out/diet to just "not be fat".Evidently you have no idea what it means to be a bodybuilder, fitness athlete, or even remotely serious about fitness as a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/19 04:29 PM |
| 52 | CMV: Most men severely underestimate the work women do in terms of working out/diet to just "not be fat".This is dumb. Men gotta do ALL of this AND lift 5 days a week and consume 200+ grams of lean protein a day (that's 4 large chicken breasts) in order to have abs AND be bulit. It is literally 3-4 x the work to be lean muscular than just 'not fat'. Cry me a fucking river. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/19 04:15 PM |
| 15 | CMV: Most men severely underestimate the work women do in terms of working out/diet to just "not be fat".This is dumb. Men gotta do ALL of this AND lift 5 days a week and consume 200+ grams of lean protein in order to have abs AND be bulit. It is literally 3-4 x the work to be muscular lean muscular than just 'not fat'. Cry me a fucking river. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/19 04:15 PM |
| 1 | Happy Fathers day, for me it's the anniversary of when my wife dropped the bomb on me.I am assuming you are an American citizen. Is your ex-wife a US citizen as well or not? If she isn’t, how the hell are you paying alimony and do not have full custody of them? I'm Canadian. She's from Taiwan. We lived in USA for several years together and so she never became a Canadian citizen. But the marriage and divorce were in Canada and the law there is binding even if she doesn't live there anymore. If possible, try to prove that she is abusing your kids so that they can be extradited and … | /r/MGTOW | 17/06/19 09:43 AM |
| 9 | Happy Fathers day, for me it's the anniversary of when my wife dropped the bomb on me.Already did. Thanks for the kind words. | /r/MGTOW | 16/06/19 07:53 PM |
| 44 | Happy Fathers day, for me it's the anniversary of when my wife dropped the bomb on me.I busted mine through a mix-up where she didn't realize her iPhone was syncing to a shared iPad (this was 2012 or so and the tech was still newish). Saw explicit messages and sexts between her and her ex before me, and plans to meet up later in the year while she was meant to be travelling back home for a month (she's from Taiwan). We had only been together 6 years at that point but already had 2 children, 5[m] and 2[f]. I confronted her, and that's when the story gets really 'interesting'... I … | /r/MGTOW | 16/06/19 06:51 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: What happened in your past that led you to find or "swallow" TRP?maybe i'm reading a sense of "everything is shit" and victimhood into your post that does not exist; Nailed it bud. Go back and re-read it. I literally stated the raw facts of what happened. Didn't say how I felt about it one way or the other. Didn't say what I thought caused it. And I certainly didn't whine, complain, or cry victim. If I had to guess I'd say you're doing a heavy bit of projecting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/19 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: What happened in your past that led you to find or "swallow" TRP?with TRP understanding, it's crystal clear to me now why every woman that ever cheated on me cheated on me. to sum it up a mixture of being needy, being boring, and not providing comfort when comfort was needed (by her). Classic 'It's my fault she cheated.' This is NOT TRP, it is blue pilled cuckery at its finest. Bravo for having learned nothing. A solid plurality if not majority of people have not had, by your own account, such a shitty experience with the opposite sex. How so? Any man who's a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/19 11:53 AM |
| 3 | Game Your Own WayYeah. And EA, Ubisoft, and a couple others. | /r/MGTOW | 14/06/19 02:59 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: What happened in your past that led you to find or "swallow" TRP?What's your point? I made them be shitty people? Or are jumping on the 'You clearly select for liars and cheaters' train here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/19 11:13 PM |
| 7 | Game Your Own WayI don't play Overwatch actually. Are all 3 panels from the game? If so, then I'll have to ask them if they intentionally copied the characters from my game (Warframe). Or maybe they have some kinda license deal I was aware of. Lol | /r/MGTOW | 13/06/19 11:10 PM |
| 9 | Game Your Own WaySick setup. Also, I worked on one of those games. | /r/MGTOW | 13/06/19 06:31 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: What happened in your past that led you to find or "swallow" TRP?Then that's what you do. I have kids. I would nope the fuck out if the mother used them as objects to blackmail me. I love them and care too much for their well-being to do that I'm afraid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/19 03:37 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: What happened in your past that led you to find or "swallow" TRP?How are you forced to pay 70% of your earnings to an ex-wife who lives in another country? Does Taiwan law apply to the USA? Canadian laws apply in Canada, where we were married and divorced, even if she no longer lives here. In any case, in such a scenario you should just say fuck it and move to Ecuador or Vietnam or some place outside the pale where a man can be free. Except then I'd be abandoning my kids with an irresponsible and destructive woman AND no money (she doesn't work.. nor do I bel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/19 03:26 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: What happened in your past that led you to find or "swallow" TRP?Yeah. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/19 01:29 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: What happened in your past that led you to find or "swallow" TRP?Sounds more “closed off” than “stoic” to me but whatever helps you sleep I guess. Not sure how you could get that from what I've said so far. You seem to be mind reading and imputing motivations onto me. Are you sure you're not just projecting what you want to believe? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/19 03:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: What happened in your past that led you to find or "swallow" TRP?How was it clear that she hated your dad? She talked badly about him. Stoic” or afraid? They often look the same Actually stoic. I tend to be on the more logical/ rational side, and less on the emotional/ reactionary side. This sometimes bothers women in relationships when they're trying to get you to 'open up', 'show weakness', or just react emotionally in an argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/19 11:52 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: What happened in your past that led you to find or "swallow" TRP?She was very abusive both emotionally and physically. But I always went back to her, no matter how bad she treated me, why? Because there was no where else to go. Nah. Not my experience at all. But I'm sorry for yours. My mom wasnt bad to me. She just had her hands full with 3 kids and hated my dad. But she never hit me or put undue emotional burden on me. It also made me rely on women in my relationships to take the lead, be in charge, and to provide me comfort Also not me. I always have taken … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/19 08:03 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: What happened in your past that led you to find or "swallow" TRP?So what's the point you're trying to make? That I unconsciously selected for liars, cheaters, and emotional manipulators/ abusers from all walks of life and cultural backgrounds because my mother did shit to my father that didn't even know about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/19 07:27 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: What happened in your past that led you to find or "swallow" TRP?I didn't know that about my mother until much later | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/19 07:09 AM |
| 6 | Q4RP: What happened in your past that led you to find or "swallow" TRP?Probably. Single mom. She tried and wasn't as bad as some, but wasn't perfect either. Not sure exactly how that would have impacted my selection criteria though. More importantly, I'm not sure what the common factor they all share could be. These women were all from different walks of life, cultures, and upbringings. Some from my home country, some from other countries, some from lower class, some grew up in the city, some were even private school rich girls, some were religious others were not.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/19 07:01 AM |
| 2 | This fucking bitch abuses her defenseless daughter on camera to try and hurt her ex husband..Where? r/MGTOW? | /r/MGTOW | 12/06/19 05:48 AM |
| 6 | Q4RP: What happened in your past that led you to find or "swallow" TRP?Keep telling yourself that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/19 04:41 AM |
| 9 | Q4RP: What happened in your past that led you to find or "swallow" TRP?Not one bit. I can go into detail for all of it. I'm actually in Taiwan visiting my kids for the 4th time this year right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/19 03:32 AM |
| 41 | Q4RP: What happened in your past that led you to find or "swallow" TRP?Was cheated on by my first two high school gfs and my now ex wife. Was the 'other guy' at least a dozen times and only found out later. Three of them were married and one was engaged to be married the following month. Had my ex wife threaten to kill my children, then lie to the police and say I hit her after I called them because I feared for their safety. I spent 3 days in a holding cell. Had my ex wife take almost everything I had, and my kids, and move halfway across the world with them. I on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/19 02:44 AM |
| 1 | When Tyrone leaves her asking The Big Question.Like knowing the difference between 'there' and 'their' ? | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 11/06/19 01:23 AM |
| 3 | This is what you dealing with.50 baby daddies and only 2 kids 🤔🤔🤔 | /r/MGTOW | 11/06/19 01:13 AM |
| 2 | This is what you dealing with.No you won't. You'll be back here sayin it again tomorrow too 😅 | /r/MGTOW | 11/06/19 01:12 AM |
| 4 | This is what you dealing with.Apparently you haven't the foggiest understanding of differential male/ female intersexual dynamics. In the sexual marketplace women and men absolutely are not equal. Not even close. Women are the sexual selectors and men are the relationship selectors. Except birth control, the welfare state, and female education and workplace equity initiatives have combined to make women need a traditional relationship less and less. So all thats left is the sexual marketplace, where only the top 5%< of men g… | /r/MGTOW | 11/06/19 01:11 AM |
| 1 | GMW Southeast AsiaDeadlift and pull-ups. And a lot of lat pulldown and barbell rows too. | /r/MGTOW | 10/06/19 10:52 PM |
| 3 | GMW Southeast AsiaWow. That sounds awesome. Haven't been to Da Nang yet, but it's on the books anyway! Were you just vacationing? | /r/MGTOW | 10/06/19 11:21 AM |
| 9 | GMW Southeast AsiaMy tour guide... | /r/MGTOW | 10/06/19 10:46 AM |
| 17 | GMW Southeast AsiaWell I'm 37. So hardly young. But I work out and eat well, so I'm doin ok. | /r/MGTOW | 10/06/19 10:19 AM |
| 12 | 12 years. If that was a man he’d have life without paroleHere's another: 34 year old woman. 16 year old boy. Willfully infected him with HIV. Got 3 years. https://www.wtxl.com/news/tallahassee-woman-charged-with-voluntary-transmission-of-hiv/article_080d1a74-a2c6-11e7-b54d-cf277590044a.html And not sure if true, but here's a story about a woman who deliberately infected nearly 600 men within the space of a year before getting stopped: https://www.google.com/amp/s/kami.com.ph/amp/42659-girl-infects-586-men-hiv-plans-infecting-2000-2017.html Saw a story… | /r/MGTOW | 10/06/19 03:31 AM |
| 4 | GMW Southeast AsiaHitting up Pattaya and Phuket in July! | /r/MGTOW | 10/06/19 02:42 AM |
| 3 | The definition of the modern married cuckBruuutal.. | /r/MGTOW | 10/06/19 02:36 AM |
| 5 | Fat, permanently shattered single mother of two... with.. wait for it: picky preferences.UK bird moves to US and uses imperial when describing her height so the locals don't get confused, but keeps the other slang? | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 10/06/19 01:54 AM |
| 8 | Fat, permanently shattered single mother of two... with.. wait for it: picky preferences.Are you r/gatekeeping r/whereareallthegoodmen formats? | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 10/06/19 01:53 AM |
| 13 | GMW Southeast AsiaVietnam. It's a place called Ha Long Bay. About 3 hours by bus from Hanoi. | /r/MGTOW | 10/06/19 01:40 AM |
| 16 | Found this in 'about' section of Facebook of my childhood crush. Chased career and bad boys. Now nobody wants her for her demanding assA 'MASTEPIECE'?!? And written in the 3rd person no less.. This reads like an ad that the douchey self-important villain from every animated comedy ever would write. She's a literal joke and she hasn't even realized it yet. It would almost be sad if it weren't so damn hilarious. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 09/06/19 08:11 PM |
| 5 | Q4W: What elevates a man from mediocre at sex to amazing?You had me until the last paragraph, but eating ass and licking my own fucking cum? Yeah, you'd be out the door unfucked too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/19 02:06 AM |
| 9 | Q4W: What elevates a man from mediocre at sex to amazing?In my experience most women love a little sensual nipple play. Slow, gentle licking and sucking (while not neglecting the other breast). One thing I've discovered really drives a lot of women crazy is exploring the underboob (if she's like a C cup or less). Just slowly trace your tongue over her breast and then down along the underside and tease there for a bit without skipping a beat before moving down her flank toward her hip and pelvic area. Every time I've done this to a woman for the first … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/19 01:56 AM |
| 2 | I don't even need to say anything.Very good point.. | /r/MGTOW | 07/06/19 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: When calculating your own bodycount, what do you include in it?Hmm.. pooper's a check I think (though I haven't had to consider that). But I think if you can make her cum using just your dick and there's penetration, then that oughta count. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/19 11:38 PM |
| 13 | I don't even need to say anything.I give my ex wife $42,000.00/ year (tax free). Just imagine how many prostitutes I could buy with that? Even at a top shelf $450 a pop, that's still twice a week, every week. | /r/MGTOW | 06/06/19 04:44 PM |
| 2 | And the award for Simp of the Year 2019 goes to...Those eyes literally say 'Please God just kill me so I can finally escape this fucked up nightmare once and for all' | /r/MGTOW | 06/06/19 04:33 PM |
| 3 | Q4All: When calculating your own bodycount, what do you include in it?Good for you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/19 04:25 PM |
| 3 | Q4All: When calculating your own bodycount, what do you include in it?Nope. Still doesn't count. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/19 01:33 PM |
| 3 | The unexpected joys of marriage and familyNTA. Their trip is gonna be sooooo much better with you fucked the hell off. | /r/MGTOW | 06/06/19 12:02 PM |
| 2 | What an opener. She's everything I've ever wanted.UNICORNS DO EXIST!! | /r/MGTOW | 06/06/19 11:53 AM |
| 5 | Q4All: When calculating your own bodycount, what do you include in it?Nah. Only piv intercourse. Oral sex is just fooling around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/19 11:37 AM |
| 6 | “Marriage is just a piece of paper. I’m totally committed to you without it” is just a line said by men who want to get their girlfriends to shut up and accept being a forever girlfriend.Yeah.. no. Marriage is a scam where women leverage the government monopoly on violence and forced confinement in order to extort access to a man's provisioning indefinitely, regardless of whether or not she lives up to or honors her own marriage vows and commitments. In modern society men have literally nothing to gain and everything to lose from wifing up a woman, and no sane man with even an ounce of sense would consider it.. no matter how magical the pussy was before he put a ring on it ( we … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/19 08:31 AM |
| 8 | “Marriage is just a piece of paper. I’m totally committed to you without it” is just a line said by men who want to get their girlfriends to shut up and accept being a forever girlfriend.Yeah.. no. Marriage is a scam where women leverage the government monopoly on violence and forced confinement in order to extort access to a man's provisioning indefinitely, regardless of whether or not she lives up to or honors her own marriage vows and commitments. In modern society men have literally nothing to gain and everything to lose from wifing up a woman, and no sane man with even an ounce of sense would consider it.. no matter how magical the pussy was before he put a ring on it ( we … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/19 08:29 AM |
| 1 | Examples of toxic femininity.Nah. Your mom's doin that for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/19 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Examples of toxic femininity.How about you don't go around calling people you don't know fuck all about 'beta' and 'soy', and then complaining when they call you out on your bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/19 04:18 AM |
| 1 | Examples of toxic femininity.Pretty sure everything TRP teaches says your wrong. JBY is bullshit that makes sure dudes never get laid. Cultivating a personal style/ image that is authentic to your best self increases your smv. You're an idiot if you think otherwise, and probably haven't had sex in a very long time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/19 12:35 AM |
| 8 | Do very high SMV men get cheated on too?Funny thing too. The ladies in this sub always have some snarky or 'witty' quip to come back at you with. The dead silence in this thread is because they know it's true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/19 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Examples of toxic femininity.Right. Because women obsessing over instagram makeup tutorials, the lastest fashion trends, hair, nails, and personal lookbooks etc aren't cultivating an image? JBY (just be yourself) is the biggest bullshit lie women tell to men ad nauseam (apart from how many dicks they've had of course). You make me laugh.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/19 11:52 AM |
| 1 | Examples of toxic femininity.But you are still competing in the game if you do that. Not exactly. Well at least not in the status/ dominance heirachy that keeps men or a treadmill of work/success/acquisition etc. But yeah, you still need to stay reasonably fit and cultivate a personal image etc. And there is the problem of how sustainable it is in old age. Depends where you live and the types of women you go after I guess. I imagine you could be a cool, bearded, tattooed, fit, motorcycle riding beach bum suffer dude and sti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/19 09:48 AM |
| 6 | Examples of toxic femininity.Agree and disagree. Buddhist monks have done this successfully for centuries, but it involves a literally inhuman level of worldly detachment that 99.99% of people wouldn't be able to pull off. For that reason I think the most realistic path if someone really wanted to go the MGTOW route successfully would be to become more of a nomadic 'sigma' male. Which is to say, living minimalistically while rejecting the female imposed male dominance heirachy and living your own self actuated life, avoidin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/19 09:14 AM |
| 8 | EqualityAs far as I can tell, there are two distinct operative reasons to be MGTOW. One is the positive benefits one can accrue by living in a truly and completely male paradigm. The other is to avoid the dangers that await any man who gets involved with a woman in 2019. A lot of these posts that seem 'not MGTOW' are just focusing on the 'dangers of women' aspect, rather than the 'benefits of GYW' aspect. Both are valid though. | /r/MGTOW | 01/06/19 08:09 PM |
| 3 | Lying monkey brancher called out hard (skip to comment at bottom if OP tldr for ya)That post was removed/ deleted and locked (probably by OP after getting completely and devastatingly exposed 😂), and yes, the comment was deleted. To be fair it probably violated rules of that sub. Haha | /r/MGTOW | 31/05/19 07:03 PM |
| 1 | How much sex are people actually having36 [m] over 80, less than 100. Not exactly sure tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/19 11:07 AM |
| 8 | I run out of things to say...Get out of your own head and be present in the moment. Think of yourself as a 'buyer' and you're shopping around for a product. She is the product.. and you 'might' be interested, but you're not sure yet. So what do you do in that situation? You inspect the product. Study it. Ask questions and pay attention to the answers. This will likely prompt you to have some insights of your own, or maybe even think of something funny or interesting or a story from your own experience that is related. At th… | /r/seduction | 31/05/19 08:39 AM |
| 3 | 'Watch out for idiots, son..'Dangers of associating with women? | /r/MGTOW | 31/05/19 08:32 AM |
| 4 | Finally set freeGood luck bro! Here's to new beginnings 🍻 | /r/MGTOW | 31/05/19 06:06 AM |
| 29 | If only we listened.It never ceases to amaze me how much foresight the rulers of the past had. From Jefferson's warning about centralized banking, to Eisenhower's warning about the military industrial complex, and this too.. They all saw it coming way before it happened... and the idiots of the past did it anyway... smh | /r/MGTOW | 31/05/19 04:55 AM |
| 7 | Women started identity politics and the ideology of victimhood, and now they're starting to suffer due to it. I'm so happy. It's the little things in lifeOne thing I learned from reading the Gulag Archipelago is that a majority of the people who died in the Gulags were once the ones escorting prisoners to them. The problem with group guilt is that everyone belongs to a group and every group is guilty of something. Put too much destructive power in too few hands and eventually that power comes for you. | /r/MGTOW | 30/05/19 11:34 PM |
| 1 | BOOMAnd how much of your formidable intellect did it take to concoct those two sentences that comprise your ad hominem argument? | /r/MGTOW | 30/05/19 10:54 PM |
| 3 | Facial recognition software and porn actressesI think that's up to the partner of the former porn star to decide isn't it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/19 06:18 AM |
| 2 | We'll see if this stays up..Free speech should matter to you whether you live in America or not. And the point is that most of these companies are American, and the people running them are too.. and they're working actively to suppress political opinions that disagree with their own, or ones that dissent from the mainstream orthodoxy in general. And THAT matters. | /r/MGTOW | 30/05/19 05:46 AM |
| 1 | We'll see if this stays up..Get over there and upvote. The brigading has begun already. | /r/MGTOW | 30/05/19 05:43 AM |
| 4 | BOOMDang. That's actually pretty spot on. The original now makes sense through that interpretation. | /r/MGTOW | 30/05/19 04:07 AM |
| 9 | MGTOW will make you reevaluate your entire life.Exceptionally well said. Virtually ALL of consumerism is driven by the bottomless female desire to be doted on and pampered with fancy things. Without the drive to attract and impress women, and to hang onto them by appeasing their hypergamous nature, men aren't : *Driven to arrange themselves into heirarchies and compete with one another for the top positions. Instead they are only driven to compete with yesterday's version of themselves. *Compelled to squander their financial security on fancy… | /r/MGTOW | 30/05/19 04:04 AM |
| 157 | Females: "We should be proud of sex work and being against it is misogyny!" Also females: "How dare you expose my sex work that I am totally proud of!"Because protecting men and protecting women's 'interests' are mutually exclusive. Women need the vast majority of men to remain in the dark so they can continue to manipulate them and live parasitically off of them. It's a zero sum game as far as they're concerned. ***Incidentally, it's also why they hate MGTOW and TRP so much. | /r/MGTOW | 30/05/19 12:29 AM |
| 16 | BOOMOh I'm sure it's shitty for a woman to have to carry a baby to term and then raise it. That's why a woman needs to be responsible and use birth control, such as the pill, an IUD, a diaphragm, or refuse to have sex unless the man wears a condom (she can even carry them herself!) USE GOD DAMN BIRTH CONTROL IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GET PREGNANT WOMEN. ***After all, you have way more options available to you than men. And 'if' a baby arises despite using birth control, and 'if' the man doesn't want the … | /r/MGTOW | 29/05/19 11:56 PM |
| 17 | BOOMIf a woman doesn't want to have a baby, then she should get a tubal ligation. In fact all women should have their tubes tied until they're ready to have a baby. | /r/MGTOW | 29/05/19 11:36 PM |
| 17 | BOOMAnd it's not painful for a man to have to pay for a child he didn't want for 18 FREAKING YEARS? | /r/MGTOW | 29/05/19 11:30 PM |
| 11 | BOOMThis is incoherent. I literally have no idea what you are trying to say. And my reading comprehension is in the top .1 percentile. | /r/MGTOW | 29/05/19 11:28 PM |
| 4 | Q4M: do you aspire to be a leader of men or a fucker of women?Neither. I have absolutely zero interest in defining myself as anything in relationship to women, whether that be an object of sexual desire or of status. In fact I give less and less fucks what women want or can add to my life with each passing day. This isn't to say that I don't have sex, and will still take a woman home if the circumstances and woman are desirable to me. But the goal of ascending a male dominance heirachy for the expressed purpose of attracting women to me, or the pursuit of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/19 11:22 PM |
| 2 | The entitlement knows no boundsYep. Warned him about that, and told him to run for their hills and expose her to the bf. The main way I got red pilled was by actually being the 'other guy' several times without knowing it, and then finding out on my own later. I'm talking at least a dozen times. Two of which were married and one engaged. The others all had long term 'committed' bfs of like 2-6 years. I of course anonymously told all their SO's and blew up their lives... But fucked if I'll ever get serious with a woman again a… | /r/MGTOW | 29/05/19 09:31 PM |
| 4 | An absolute horror story hereYeah, I left him a long warning to learn his lesson and tread with extreme caution and vigilance. Figured that would do better for him under his curreny understanding than just outright telling him to GYOW. | /r/MGTOW | 29/05/19 09:27 PM |
| 1 | Q4all if there was a situation where you could meet the people of ppd in real life (in a safe environment)to discuss what we talk about here would you?I'd be down. I think it's a pretty interesting and eclectic mix of people on here. I also think a lot the conversations would take on a very different vibe in person and probably be a lot more empathic and less adversarial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/19 03:52 AM |
| 3 | Q4all if there was a situation where you could meet the people of ppd in real life (in a safe environment)to discuss what we talk about here would you?I'd be down. I think it's a pretty interesting and eclectic mix of people on here. I also think a lot the conversations would take on a very different vibe in person and probably be a lot more empathic and less adversarial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/19 03:52 AM |
| 3 | People that cry AWALT are going for trash but instead of admitting it- they blame the womenDon't men do the same thing in a relationship? Men aren't hypergamous. They don't 'trade up' or drop you if you stop being relatively high value in their eyes. They may dump you if you let yourself go and get fat and lazy etc. But then won't change their perception of you based on some new outside influence that you have no control over. depending on the study, men either cheat more often or at best the same rate as women? These studies ten to be very flawed because they are self reported, and s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/19 06:23 PM |
| 5 | People that cry AWALT are going for trash but instead of admitting it- they blame the womenWhen you call something “female nature” instead of the more accurate “human nature” it in a way implies the behaviour is exclusive to females. Hypergamy and monkey branching are exclusive to female nature. The dual mating strategy, alpha fucks and beta bucks (provides), is exclusive to female nature. Paternity fraud is exclusive to female nature. The propensity to be far more likely cheat during the ovulation phase of their cycle is exclusive to female nature. Shit tests and beta shaming are exc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/19 06:18 PM |
| 1 | People that cry AWALT are going for trash but instead of admitting it- they blame the womenYeah. Just go over to r/survivinginfidelity or r/relationship advice and you'll see hundreds of stories of men who seemingly had the perfect unicorn gf or wife with literally zero red flags in sight, yet have now been divorced or dumped due to their wife's cheating or monkey branching, or even just discovered their children aren't biologically theirs after raising them for 20 years. The common refrain though every one of these stories is 'I never thought in a million years they she was the type … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/19 06:11 PM |
| 5 | People on r/survivinginfidelity eloquently describe being redpilled by their wives affairs..👍 | /r/MGTOW | 28/05/19 03:30 AM |
| 4 | People on r/survivinginfidelity eloquently describe being redpilled by their wives affairs..What's this F thing about? | /r/MGTOW | 28/05/19 03:18 AM |
| 3 | Strong, Independent, Confident, Powerful Feminist Shows How It's Done at the GymShe put her feet on top of the pads instead of under them, which should have held her in place. But instead she just let them dangle there as she leaned forward and fell on her face. That's called not knowing what the eff you're doing. And when the activity you're attempting to engage in is specifically hoisting extremely heavy things around.. that's a recipe to get your ass fucked up. | /r/MGTOW | 27/05/19 11:59 PM |
| 1 | Patton nailed it!Anyone else notice that dude in the photo looks exactly like Kevin Spacey? | /r/MGTOW | 27/05/19 08:27 PM |
| 2 | Hm where is that money coming from?🤔Actually, that 85% spending is just from their own bank or 'shared' finances of her spouse. This doesn't even take into consideration all the shit men buy FOR women (drinks, dinners, gifts etc). Factor that in and women control closer to 95% of consumer spending. | /r/MGTOW | 27/05/19 08:22 PM |
| 3 | A lazy Sunday with my video games, and noone to tell me otherwise. GYOW boys.I've been playing all day. Like 10 hours. Imagine doing that married. Yeah. Fucking. Right. | /r/MGTOW | 27/05/19 03:31 AM |
| 5 | A lazy Sunday with my video games, and noone to tell me otherwise. GYOW boys.Yeah, but the most flawlessly executed of Rockstars stable. Probably the best executed game I've ever played tbh | /r/MGTOW | 27/05/19 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Another man betrayed for decades.I'd watch it for the lols. Feminist delusions are jokes man. | /r/MGTOW | 27/05/19 12:47 AM |
| 1 | A lazy Sunday with my video games, and noone to tell me otherwise. GYOW boys.Havent tried the online tbh. | /r/MGTOW | 27/05/19 12:30 AM |
| 2 | A lazy Sunday with my video games, and noone to tell me otherwise. GYOW boys.Meh. It's not like a thing I do. Was just where my feet were while playing. Lol | /r/MGTOW | 27/05/19 12:30 AM |
| 3 | Another man betrayed for decades.How was it? Thinking of renting it. Lol | /r/MGTOW | 26/05/19 11:53 PM |
| 16 | A lazy Sunday with my video games, and noone to tell me otherwise. GYOW boys.One of the best out currently I'd say. Pretty much flawlessly ex cuted in every way. If you like open world's or cowboy stuff it's a must play for sure. | /r/MGTOW | 26/05/19 11:05 PM |
| 17 | A lazy Sunday with my video games, and noone to tell me otherwise. GYOW boys.PS4 for this game. But I have an Xbox one, Switch, and Oculus Rift. And a gaming PC too. Haha | /r/MGTOW | 26/05/19 11:01 PM |
| 15 | Go Your Own Way. Cozy island from FinlandWhy do people just post random photos of places they're not in or don't live on here. It's called 'go your own way', not 'pretend to go places you've never been'. | /r/MGTOW | 26/05/19 10:43 PM |
| 8 | Guy gets publicly humiliated by a group of girls for hitting on their friend yet according to AITA, he's the bad guy.I get what your saying, but this sub is called AITA for a reason. Namely that people posting here aren't sure if they're the asshole or not, which virtually by definition requires that they don't have conscious ill will in their actions. Otherwise the sub would be called IAAAIKI (I'm an asshole and I know it). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/19 10:03 PM |
| 6 | Another man betrayed for decades.Or anything really. Everything bad is literally everyone else's fault. She cheated? Your fault. She got angry and hit you? Your fault. She gets paid less? Definitely your fault. You leave her and the illegitimate child after discovering her infidelity? You're a horrible human being! | /r/MGTOW | 26/05/19 08:48 PM |
| 12 | Another man betrayed for decades.Nah. The bitches cucking their husbands and lying about it for the entire relationship are. | /r/MGTOW | 26/05/19 08:42 PM |
| 37 | Guy gets publicly humiliated by a group of girls for hitting on their friend yet according to AITA, he's the bad guy.Yeah, I saw this one too. Dude wasn't an asshole for hitting on a 19 year old... He was an asshole for doing it at a restaurant in the middle of her birthday, not reading any social cues, and not leaving despite being repeatedly told to. If being utterly socially tone deaf doesn't qualify you as an asshole, then not sure what does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/19 06:52 PM |
| 17 | Another man betrayed for decades.Came here to xpost this but ya beat me to it! Comment section is refreshingly res pill as fuck on paternity fraud. Dropping statistics and everything. People are waking up. | /r/MGTOW | 26/05/19 06:43 PM |
| 4 | Do men feel more attracted to "crazy" women than "boring" women?Never stick your dick in crazy My attraction to a woman is directly inversely correlated to the amount of 'crazy' vibes she gives off. Sadly, there also seems to be a pretty high positive correlation between physical 'hotness' and 'crazy' in western women. This likely stems from the endless male attention and benefits they receive on a daily basis, the lack of need to develop personal character due to the free ride their hotness offords, and also the pathological need for external validation due… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/19 06:36 PM |
| 8 | Anti-SJW Youtuber Undead Chronic's Channel Suspended From Youtube with no previous warnings or strikesHey man. Been watching your vids for a while and following this technocracy political censorship for even longer. Deleted my Patreon during the whole Sargon debacle, and twitter after the Dorsey interviews on Rogan. I also support several creators who have moved to their own independent payment models. If you create a new channel and port your content or even re-brand and share here, I'm sure your support will come pouring back in. Many of the politically incorrect creators have only become more… | /r/MGTOW | 26/05/19 06:04 PM |
| -12 | Someone who believes in love will make your life "like on a roller coaster, will keep you toned and you'll feel the taste of life"The average dick in the Democratic Republic of Congo is 9 inches. AVERAGE. The average dick in America is 4.5 inches. Fat vaginas need fat dicks. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 26/05/19 03:26 PM |
| 1 | 'Men' are the cause of all abortions..Actually men can't prevent the abortions of their own offspring. In fact under current laws a woman could abort every child a man conceives with her until the end of time... But I get what you're saying about the kernel of truth. Abortions pertain to terminating a pregnancy. No pregnancy = no abortion. | /r/MGTOW | 25/05/19 11:50 PM |
| 2 | 'Men' are the cause of all abortions..Formulate it as a logical syllogism: 1.) Abortions are caused by unwanted pregnancies. 2.) Unwanted pregnancies are caused by men (because men are the only ones with sperm that can fertilize an ovum). 3.) Therefore men cause abortions. Premise 2 is fallacious because it inserts the conclusion inside the argument, and might as well be saying 'Men cause abortions because men cause abortions.' What's more, it removes the female, who is the only one with an ovum that can be fertilized, from the equa… | /r/MGTOW | 25/05/19 09:01 PM |
| 13 | 'Men' are the cause of all abortions..Friend shared this with me. Apparently they are being handed out by some local government organization on the street. So yeah, there's the classic wamen logic for ya. It's men who cause all abortions by ejaculating into the woman, since you know... all women are agencyless cum recepticles that men can just walk up and spooge into. | /r/MGTOW | 25/05/19 07:56 PM |
| 0 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partneryou put it in for shock value. Or maybe because I actually think that killing a fetus any time past the first trimester is morally repugnant and relevant to the conversation. It might be a foreign concept to you, but some people actually debate on moral principles and not just to score political points. Don’t really see the point in discussing it when there is no correct answer There will eventually. But the fact that we just go ahead and terminate pregnancies in the millions without actually kn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 11:52 PM |
| 1 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerI believe a 3rd trimester abortion(very rare) is much worse than a 1st trimester abortion and should be avoided, A third trimester abortion is literally killing a freaking baby. I was born at 6.5 months. But what about second trimester? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 11:48 PM |
| 1 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerConsidering you’re the one acting like women are aborting full-term babies on a whim and it’s not in extreme cases, then that’s you. Never have I said that once. I said they're pushing for 9 months in places, and they are. I said most abortions are as contraception. They are. I asked when a fetus becomes a life. Noone has answered that. I'm waiting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 11:45 PM |
| 1 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partner'mental well-being' is exceptionally ill-defined. That's what 'whatever that means' means. Incidentally, being intellectually dishonest refers to the practice of either deliberately misrepresenting the truth or omitting relevant details, or deliberately mischaracterizing another person's position. Pretty sure you're the one doing that here bud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 11:39 PM |
| 1 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerThis made international news. They said in cases where the doctor and mother deemed 'might be damaging to the mother's mental or physical well-being'. Whatever they means. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 11:34 PM |
| 1 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerI like how you suddenly care so much when it's females mostly being aborted 👏👏👏 The one child policy was mandated by the autocratic dictatorship. They people chose which sex they considered more valuable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 11:31 PM |
| 0 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerThey're trying to legalize it at 9 months in some states. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 11:30 PM |
| 1 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerAn act enforced by the government. Not the people... The Chinese people, on the other hand, still have strong family values, a social taboo on promiscuity, sex outside of a committed ltr or marriage and on divorce, and a strong social importance on hard work, community and delayed gratification. All values that the west was founded on and have all but forgotten. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 11:15 PM |
| 2 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerPeople had unprotected sex in large numbers before 1973. This whole notion that everyone committed before having sex is a lie. You do realize that human history predates the 20th century yes? As for those having unprotected sex before Roe V Wade... They were even more irresponsible. And the cause of the absolute warzones that were New York and LA in the 80's and 90's. Sorry but its not the 18th century anymore. No it isn't. It's far more degenerate. We are the dumbest and most laziest, fragile, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 11:06 PM |
| 0 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerWell that shows where your moral compass is anyway (not that I'm surprised). The degeneracy of the modern west doesn't really shock me anymore. It's no wonder China has replaced us on the world stage. Probably also why I prefer any woman who wasn't raised here tbh 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 10:58 PM |
| 4 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerSo you did the is ought fallacy my friend for your first premise. Sex is for reproduction so it ought to be for that, but realistically their is no reason why it ought to be just for that. Wrong. The is/ ought fallacy does not apply here because sex is a natural biologically determined process. It is designed for procreation because that's what it ought to be for. This argument is the equivalent of saying 'there's no reason that pooping ought to be for expelling waste. We can poop for any reason… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 10:55 PM |
| 0 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerHumans aren't like other animals. We Don't follow our biological imperatives. We Don't have to. Wrong. Read the books Persuasion and the Elephant in Our Brain. Besides women who abort can also be in a committed Relationship. 82% of abortions are sought by single women. Women nowadays, can decide when and who they have sex with, they can also decide whether they want kids or not with that person. Yeah.. and they should take into consideration whether they want to have kids when they are deciding … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 10:41 PM |
| 1 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerOne is life saving. The other is life ending. No sane or honest person would try to logically equate the two. Smh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 10:37 PM |
| -1 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerI eat eggs and fish. But even if I didn't, almost noone would attempt to equate the value of a human baby to that of a pig. And even I you could, then that would only mean that we're both morally culpable.. and not that you are absolved of your own responsibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 10:32 PM |
| 2 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerThey even use that one in cases where the wife cheated and the baby isn't even his. Like 'How could you turn your back on a child you had a relationship with and treated them as your own JUST BECAUSE YOUR WIFE LIED AND FUCKED SOMEONE ELSE. YOU MONSTER!?!!!' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 10:07 PM |
| -2 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerCognition being the important thing her with regards to suffering. A cow had more cognition than you at birth. Go ahead and pinch a newborn baby, or better yet go watch a video of a circumcision being performed, then tell me babies don't suffer with a straight face. Or the person that forces people to have unwanted children Again. Noone forced them to have sex when they didn't want a baby. This is like you jumping off a cliff, demanding that someone else pay for your parachute, and claiming that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 10:04 PM |
| -4 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerFeminists: 'HOW DARE YOU TELL US WE CANT KILL BABIES UP TO THE MOMENT OF BIRTH' Also feminists: HOW DARE YOU TRY TO SHIRK YOUR PATTERNAL RESPONSIBILITIES' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 09:52 PM |
| 0 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerFetus's don't suffer. You don't know that even slightly. Our understanding of fetal consciousness is effectively nil. I was born at 6.5 months and I definitely was conscious. Probably felt pain too. Women being forced to carry a child suffer. Noone's forcing them to have sex except themselves. Unwanted children suffer. They didn't force their mom to have sex either. Men forced to pay child support suffer. Nobody forced them to have sex. But if the woman gets pregnant SHE can force him to pay chi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 09:39 PM |
| 3 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerYour logical fallacy, not mine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 09:31 PM |
| 1 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerBecause until we know we what point a fetus 'actually' becomes a baby, we see literally just guessing.. and are probably murdering babies in the process. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 09:30 PM |
| -2 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerExcept that I and many many people like me are pro-life, and are not even remotely religious. Namely for the fact that we don't actually known when a fetus becomes a baby and are pretty much just guessing. Case in point, abortions at or around 6 months are still legal in many places, and many viable births occur prematurely at or around that time. I myself am one of those. And if my mother had aborted (killed) me at that time, or just prior to my premature birth... She would in fact have murdere… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 09:28 PM |
| 7 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerCounterpoint: you didn't turn out fine and should have been aborted or allowed to die so you wouldn't be pushing your nonsense beliefs into the national discourse. CMV. I turned out physically fine. Just because you disagree with my views doesn't mean I don't deserve to live, and the fact that you would even utter that as an argument should immediately disqualify you from the conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 08:53 PM |
| 2 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerAs soon as I see "libtard", I know who I'm dealing with. Logical fallacy. Also, my use of that word was in response to their comment about tradcon trolls so... What's good for one foot is good other the other bud. But have fun hiding behind your cop outs instead of actually doing the hard work of engaging with the concepts being debated! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 08:50 PM |
| -2 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerActually it allows them to be even more selective Before having sex. Now, they can assess all aspects of a man and their own life to determine that they only produce offspring when (1) they are truly ready and (2) they have found a partner they deem worthy of fathering a child. They could do all that before. They just couldn't go around treating sex like a throwaway frivolity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 08:48 PM |
| 1 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerYou know that live babies are also a cluster of cells right? I was born at 6.25 months along with my premie twin brother. That was 36 years ago when medicine and technology were nowhere near what they are now. We turned out fine. Some states are pushing for or have passed third trimester abortions. That is literally killing babies. I'm walking proof of that fact. So if you want to cheer on the biggest genocide the world has ever seen all in the name of 'muh women's privileges', then go for it. P… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 08:39 PM |
| -3 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerLol. It's the utterly irresponsible and self-entitled libtards that are fucking up society, thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 08:35 PM |
| 2 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerJust wait until the science actually comes in on that one luv. We used to think black people weren't humans too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 08:33 PM |
| 3 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerYou have lefties pushing some truly deranged 9 month abortion law, just got it passed in New York. Thats an actual baby at that point My twin and I were born at 6.5 months. We both turned out fine. Pretty sure as neural imaging technology and our understanding of consciousness improves we'll discover that we've been murdering conscious babies by the millions, all because we let some self-entitled children brow beat us into supporting their consequence free hedonistic pursuits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 08:31 PM |
| 3 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerI can't tell if they're really stupid or just willfully ignorant, I would say dishonest and cynically obscurantist. Women only care about what it feeeeeeels like They are drunk on privilege and want all the 'fun' without any of the responsibility. Pretty much it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 08:27 PM |
| 1 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerYou haven't answered the question. At what point exactly does a 'non-life' (fetus) become an actual life (baby)? I'm waiting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 08:25 PM |
| 2 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerAnd we used to bury babies in fence posts to appease the angry gods. What's your point? That because humans do unnatural shit then it's ok? Sorry, no. I'm saying we shouldn't be doing it because we're creating and terminating millions of lives out shear irresponsible self-interest and it's bad for society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 08:24 PM |
| 7 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerBecause they are diametrically opposed? You can't teach wanton hedonism and delayed gratification at the same time. You can't teach sexual responsibility and sexual abandon at the same time. And as far as history is concerned, we know which produces more unwanted babies and which produces a more functional and durable society. I prefer to have children be raised in healthy functional homes, and in a society that teaches them moral and personal responsibility over selfish materialism and the purs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 08:19 PM |
| 2 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerThey're potential lives, not lives At what point precisely does a potential life magically 'poof' into an actual life? Seriously, tell me. Because the science isn't in on that yet and right now we are more or less just guessing based on some superficial physical characteristics at different stages of development. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 08:15 PM |
| 3 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerOh you can go ahead and do all those things. You're just not entitled to be free of the consequences. And you're certainly not allowed to tell me that you get to end millions of potential and actual lives in order to keep those privileges. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 08:13 PM |
| 2 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerThis is a false dichotomy. Those aren't the only two options. We 'could' go back to educating young people that sex is a serious game that produces real humans as a consequence and should not be rushed into or thrown around lightly. You know, teach our children to put a high value on commitment before sex and family cohesion, the importance of hard work and delayed gratification.. the principals our nation was founded on? Instead of promoting self-entitlement and wanton hedonistic pleasure-seeki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 08:10 PM |
| -1 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerConsequence free relationship sex too. Over 75% of abortions go to single women. And one might argue that within the context of a committed relationship abortions would be far less necessary. Use contraception, take the risk, and if you get pregnant.. deal with it. As is natural and as humans have done since the beginning of time until about 40 years ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 07:47 PM |
| 2 | At bottom the abortion debate is really about women's attempt to escape their biological imperative to be more selective when choosing a partnerBecause it's morally repugnant to end millions of humans lives because of pure self-interest? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 07:46 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men Whose Partner(s)/Ex(s) Have Had An Abortion: What Was Your ExperienceI’m getting bored of disproving your baseless ‘facts’ You haven't deflected a single point I've made so far. What you've done is conveniently ignored every point I caught you on, and shared statistics or medical facts that are either utterly irrelevant, or as in this last case where literally 75% of all abortions went to single women.. completely support my point 🤙 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 01:12 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men Whose Partner(s)/Ex(s) Have Had An Abortion: What Was Your ExperienceI have actually when my combined pill and implant failed. I had it at 7 weeks gestation. I meant in the 2 years you haven't been having sex. Again, that should have been obvious. So men should have no responsibility when it comes to sex? They do. From the moment a women conceives it is out of the man's control. He has no say in whether the baby is born or not, and he will be financially and legally responsible for the next 18 years when it is. Also, women are the sexual selectors of the species.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 01:02 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men Whose Partner(s)/Ex(s) Have Had An Abortion: What Was Your ExperienceI haven’t had sex in nearly 2 years but I still don’t bash women that do. I bet you haven't had any abortions either. And I don't bash women who want to have meaningless sex. I call out the bullshit of wanting to have consequence free meaningless sex as some sort of inalienable right. I suppose you’re against reversible vasectomies? Why not force men to have one as they reach puberty and get it reversed when they want kids? 'Force' men to get a surgical procedure so that women can continue to ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 12:55 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men Whose Partner(s)/Ex(s) Have Had An Abortion: What Was Your ExperienceContraception fails bud. You know what doesn't? Having sex with a person you actually want to have a child with and when you're actually in a position to be a responsible parent... You know, instead of just fucking whatever hot dick slides your way and then claiming that killing babies is your basic human right in order to avoid the consequences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 12:45 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men Whose Partner(s)/Ex(s) Have Had An Abortion: What Was Your ExperienceI pretty much condemned your ex for aborting a viable foetus that could have been delivered prematurely. I know. And she would agree with you. She condemns herself for what she did, and it's one of the main reasons she was so messed up. She literally said she wished she'd died in the process. How are you going to determine how many pregnancies end in spontaneous abortion or miscarriages? I'm talking about abortion procedures to remove the fetus, not spontaneous miscarriages. That should have bee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 12:36 AM |
| 0 | Q4Men Whose Partner(s)/Ex(s) Have Had An Abortion: What Was Your ExperienceWhere in any of my replies have I said anything that contradicts that? You didn't. But you also didn't state it either. Oh but of course! Abortions only happen for convenience!! What percentage of abortions exactly are due to severe congenital defects or miscarriages vs those that are merely sought as a late form or contraception? I'd be willing to bet it's 1/100 or lower. If thats true, your ex is a murderer and morally bankrupt by your standards. She would agree with you and it's why she's reg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/19 12:03 AM |
| 0 | Q4Men Whose Partner(s)/Ex(s) Have Had An Abortion: What Was Your ExperienceWomen have legal abortions around 6 months and beyond without being rendered infertile from a botched job. If true that's literally murdering a sentient child and fucking morally bankrupt. And before you spout some BS about 'no it's not a human life yet.' My twin brother and I we're BORN at 6 months gestation and both lived full and normal lives without complication. And this was 36 years ago when medicine, technology and surgical procedure were nowhere near what they are now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/19 11:54 PM |
| -2 | Q4Men Whose Partner(s)/Ex(s) Have Had An Abortion: What Was Your ExperienceYour previous point about her wanting other women to suffer the same fate as her still makes no sense. I know, basic logic and staying on topic is a hard thing for you ladies to get your head around. Also, you're arguing with me as if I'm her. I literally just told her story, so if you have a greivance with her advocacy then I'm afraid you'll have to take it up with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/19 11:36 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men Whose Partner(s)/Ex(s) Have Had An Abortion: What Was Your ExperienceAnd that person is wrong. I dated the person who had the abortion for 3 years and dealt intimately with her 'fucked up'-ness. The fact that she had it so late is what fucked up her body and almost killed her. The fact that she did it at all is what she couldn't live with. Sure would cry herself to sleep at night shaking uncontrollably and repeating 'My baby. I killed my little girl.'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/19 09:17 PM |
| -2 | Q4Men Whose Partner(s)/Ex(s) Have Had An Abortion: What Was Your ExperienceBrave of you to assume i’m ‘retarded’ in every other aspect of human biology though. I said 'feminists' (in general), not you specifically. Most of them seem to be experts in biology when it pertains to things like abortion and sex positivity etc, but then deny basic biological facts about male and female dimorphism when it doesn't suit their political agenda. You first said 5 months, which is within the timeframe for elective abortions. That's when she discovered the infidelity. I guess it took… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/19 09:14 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men Whose Partner(s)/Ex(s) Have Had An Abortion: What Was Your ExperienceWhy did she wait so long?! She was already past 5 months when she found out about her fiancee's infidelity. At that time and in her country carrying through with the pregnancy would have functionally meant that she would have had to stay with this man and raise the child with him. It took her a month to figure out what she was gonna do and find someone to carry out the procedure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/19 09:09 PM |
| -1 | Q4Men Whose Partner(s)/Ex(s) Have Had An Abortion: What Was Your ExperienceWould a safe abortion have ruined her life? Her reproductive system would still be intact and she could have conceived after that abortion. 95% of women who have abortions don’t regret it- Her regret was one of the major factors, yes. Sure 95% of women don't. That didn't change her outcome. So being in that 5% she feels the need to advocate to take away other women’s right to choose? The point of being ‘pro-choice’ is that you realise that every women gets a choice, no matter what your personal … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/19 08:39 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men Whose Partner(s)/Ex(s) Have Had An Abortion: What Was Your ExperienceSo she advocates to take away other women’s right to choose because she had an illegal botched abortion No, because it ruined her life and she's regretted killing her baby every day for the past 20 years. but oh well, guess she wants other women to suffer the same fate as herself That's makes literally zero sense. She doesn't want other women (or babies) to suffer the same fate as her. That's her entire motivation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/19 07:36 PM |
| 19 | Q4Men Whose Partner(s)/Ex(s) Have Had An Abortion: What Was Your ExperienceI dated an older girl in college for 3 years. She'd been pregnant and engaged in a past relationship and discovered that her fiance was having an affair when she was already 5 months pregnant. She had an illegal abortion in her home country of Korea that nearly killed her, destroyed her reproductive system, and severely damaged her psychology. She was an absolute mess over it and it permeated nearly every aspect of her personality, and made conflict and conflict resolution a toxic nightmare. It … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/19 05:46 PM |
| 1 | Anyone Here: Would you rather date/marry a woman who has a lot of career success early on and not focused on dating/hookups much or a woman who has taken the time to travel/find herself/experience life and made very little money but dated/hooked up a lot?Lol. Neither are ideal, but honestly what man in their right mind would choose the broke ass reformed slut now reaching her epiphany phase and desperately trying to lock down the best second/ third/ fourth choice beta provider she can manage to attract with her zero financial or career prospects and used up vagina? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/19 05:01 AM |
| 1 | Can we agree here at PPD that men and women have a biological imperative?Your original argument was that humans override their biologically determined instincts quite often. Implicit in that statement is that humans possess some form of non-deterministic free will that can be exercised over our biological instincts in order to subvert them in the service of some higher order social or moral objective. The crux of this book is that you are wrong in that assertion, and that even when we appear to be overriding an instinct in the name of some higher purpose, it is in fa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/19 06:06 PM |
| 0 | Can we agree here at PPD that men and women have a biological imperative?Or maybe you need to not dismiss the science outright without knowing what the science is.. I've laid out the case already: We have an older primate brain that motivates us subconsciously in a very self-interesred way, then we follow those motivations without really knowing why, and then our pre frontal cortex tells ourselves a story that rationalizes our behavior (or the behavior we want to engage in) in a socially and culturally acceptable way. That's the findings of the science. It takes a wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/19 03:35 PM |
| 0 | Can we agree here at PPD that men and women have a biological imperative?Read the damn book before you make summary judgments without context. It's freaking neuroscience, it's rigorously tested, and the way they arrive at the conclusion is well documented. And if you can't be bothered to read it or even look into it, then how about you don't offer your opinion on how 'poor' the conclusion is without having the slightest idea how they arrived at it yeah? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/19 03:20 PM |
| 2 | Can we agree here at PPD that men and women have a biological imperative?but it seems like humans can and do override their instincts quite often. Correct. But the words 'seems' is much more salient here than you might think. I recommend the book 'The Elephant in Our Brain'. Can't remember the author right now. But basically, we don't really know why we do anything we do. Almost everything we do is biologically determined following some imperative from our older 'ape brain', and the justification that seems like agency on our part is actually a complex form of newer … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/19 06:42 AM |
| 5 | You are not Pro-Choice if you think it’s okay to force men to pay child support for unwanted pregnancies.Get over there and upvote/ vote. Paper abortions for men up to 12 weeks after conception. | /r/MGTOW | 20/05/19 02:56 AM |
| 4 | I'm a new member, so hello everyoneGreetings from Canada! | /r/MGTOW | 17/05/19 01:20 PM |
| 15 | Poir ignorant guyReddit gets blamed for always being pessimistic and jumping to conclusions. Reddit gets proven right a few hours later. | /r/MGTOW | 17/05/19 01:08 PM |
| 5 | [CMV] The majority of men don't have varying tastes in womenHowever, I've seen cases where women fell head over heels for a man they found below-average for his traits, talents, social status/popularity, and other attributes. So I don't think it's varied tastes, it's more of a leniency towards the desired appearance of their partners. This isn't 'attraction' though (aka lust/ sexual attraction). This is falling for the guy as a long term commitment prospect because he has other admirable and redeemable attributes that make him appear 'attractive' to try … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/19 12:52 PM |
| 19 | How can I be more sexual with women while interacting with them and give off more of a sexual/ masculine vibe instead of a lets just be friends vibe?And 'visualize' your intent while speaking to her and holding eye contact. Do you want to kiss her? Imagine doing it right in that moment. Do you want to unzip her dress and pull it down around her waist exposing her bare breasts? Imagine that too. Don't stare at her body parts like a creep. Calmly hold her gaze and image what you would do to her. She will 'feel' you fucking her in your mind and it will turn her on (if she's already attracted to you). | /r/seduction | 15/05/19 07:48 PM |
| 12 | CMV: Trying to justify, excuse, explain, or otherwise provide a reason for cheating is worse than cheating itself. The only acceptable explanation, because it is the only truthful one, is "I was weak".Another good one: 'Because I feel entitled to both the benefits provided by my ltr AND strange pussy/ dick, and don't give a fuck who I hurt in the process, because what I want is all that matters'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/19 07:18 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Only a tiny number of cheaters experience any form of karmic retribution or enduring feelings of guilt.People still fall out of love in order to pursue lust. People have and do frequently end previously great long standing relationships and marriages to pursue relationships with new flames. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/19 01:49 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Only a tiny number of cheaters experience any form of karmic retribution or enduring feelings of guilt.Just what I described. Ad hominem is a mere insult of the person like 'You're a dirty atheist, so I don't need to listen to you. No true Scottsman attacks the content of what is said, but does so to invalidate the speaker. Like 'You can't be having sex, because only a mouth breathing virgin would say that.' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/19 01:47 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Only a tiny number of cheaters experience any form of karmic retribution or enduring feelings of guilt.Anyone with a shred of intelligence and common sense should know that it's clearly money motivated in that kind of situation Right. Cuz no man or woman alive ever fell out of love with their current partner because they were forming romantic feelings for someone new who they find attractive. If you believe that, you're woefully delusional or uninformed. This is an actual well documented social phenomenon that is commonly addressed in relationship and marriage counseling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/19 01:44 PM |
| 30 | You've never truly met your wife until you meet your wife in Divorce Court.You forgot 'And he sexually abused our kids.' | /r/MGTOW | 15/05/19 01:14 AM |
| 4 | The new gender gap: 28% of men have not had sex in the past year while only 18% of women haven'tYup. Most of those 18% of women are celibate because of having either literally insane standards, or dead bedrooming their husbands after marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/19 10:49 PM |
| 1 | How To Not Be Boring On A Date (15 simple ideas)Twoice | /r/seduction | 14/05/19 10:03 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Only a tiny number of cheaters experience any form of karmic retribution or enduring feelings of guilt.That's not a No True Scottsman' fallacy. No true Scottsman attacks the the person making an argument by asserting the fact that the argument is flawed or morally reprehensible, and therefore the person making it must not be credible.. and therefore the argument need not be entertained. The fallacy you were looking for is 'Begging the question', otherwise known as 'circular reasoning', which seeks to insert the conclusion of an argument within the argument itself as one of the premises. Another e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/19 06:36 PM |
| 15 | CMV: Only a tiny number of cheaters experience any form of karmic retribution or enduring feelings of guilt.This presumes that 'love' is some magical unchanging thing that can conquer all forms of external influence and internal desires. The fact is that people want what they want, and if a person 'in love' meets another person that they want more, or deem to be of higher value (attractiveness, status, etc) than the person they are currently with, history has shown us that it's quite easy for them to merely fall 'out of love' in order to facilitate that pursuit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/19 06:33 PM |
| 2 | Non-PC PolandSure. But this isn't an 'anti-left' sub is it? It's a pro-man, anti fem-centric paradigm sub. There's plenty of other places for purely left/ right political commentary. | /r/MGTOW | 13/05/19 04:04 PM |
| 2 | Non-PC PolandImmigration? Lol. Hardly. I mean, I'm sure it's 'one' factor. But not even close to a major one. Online dating, 'sex-positive' hookup culture, no fault divorce and a lopsided family law system, abortion and birth control, and the welfare state have clearly played a much bigger role in the rise of MGTOW. And even if immigration were a significant factor, it is more a symptom of SJW culture instantiated by radical feminism and declining birth rates in the west due to the variety of socio-political… | /r/MGTOW | 13/05/19 03:54 PM |
| 4 | Non-PC PolandI'm confused. How is this in any way MGTOW related? | /r/MGTOW | 13/05/19 04:47 AM |
| 1 | My problem with this placeDo you have a 'non-biology' explanation for love? Please enlighten us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/19 03:52 AM |
| 5 | My problem with this placeAnd what's really the hardest pill to swallow is that even if you do all that and actually 'do' remain her best option, she could still be tricked into thinking she has found a better option by an apex alpha who's just fucking down the food chain for the night. In which case she'll more than likely end up cheating. Because, unless you're a literal pro athlete or actor who's both hot af AND filthy rich, there's always a bigger fish in the pond. She's not yours. It's just your turn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/19 03:34 AM |
| 2 | My problem with this placeEveryone thinks car crashes are a thing that happens to othe people.. until it happens to them. So too is it with love. We grow up seeing ubiquitous divorce and cheating and we tell ourselves 'they weren't really in love.' 'they just didn't meet the ONE'. Then when we meet the ONE we think 'We did it! We beat the odds!!'.. until our relationship crashes and burns just like all the others. And then we realize that all those other people were 'in love' at one point too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/19 12:07 AM |
| 5 | My problem with this placeNot in this sub, obviously. But in the rest of the blue pilled world? You bet. That's what naturally being red pilled is. Growing up believing in altruistic or fatalistic love, and then running smack into the reality wall of opportunistic love driven by evolutionary human nature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 11:55 PM |
| 1 | My problem with this placeWhich point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 11:51 PM |
| 6 | My problem with this placethere’s no such thing as altruism tbh and there’s no such thing as a totally selfless act. There’s no such thing as unconditional love. I disagree. Maybe with regards to sexual love. But people can and do have unconditional love for their children, and people can and do truly selfless, heroic, and even self-sacrificing things all the time. Men will walk into almost certain death to save a fallen brother in battle. This flies in the face of our our instinct of self-preservation and is arguably th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 11:46 PM |
| 4 | My problem with this placeNot in the way we usually mean when we say 'love is real' though. When we say that, we usually mean 'Love is a real thing that exists in the world between two people and is somehow special, predestined, or even eternal' or something of that nature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 11:36 PM |
| 15 | My problem with this placeOf course love is real. If you're questioning whether it's real or not you just haven't felt it yet. Love is just a name we give to a certain set of biochemical reactions in our brain and body. Sure, we all 'feel' it. But feelings change and people fall out of love. People cheat on those they say they love, and break up with those they 'used to' love. Often for someone new and often in reliably predictable ways. Red pill is the essence of understanding this reality. That love is opportunistic at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsBecause the people employing them do it in immature and harmful ways. Red pill is merely the psychology of attraction and repulsion at its core. 'Dread' can equally be chatting up other women in a way that makes your girlfriend insecure (immature and stupid), or merely staying fit and dressing well after marriage so that your wife feels the pressure to keep you (smart, and arguably good for your marriage since it will keep her happy, and also too busy trying keep you happy for her to want to str… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 11:00 PM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existYou reinforced my position. The fact that you didn't even know this tells me you're either not paying attention or too dumb to realize it. See, because if a man has a history of devaluing sex and showing poor self control, he gets called a Stud, but if a woman does the exact same thing... Except, as I've said repeatedly, men and women have different fundamental psychology and access to sex. Thus, a high n count says different things about both a man's self control, and also how he values sex. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 10:50 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsWhy do RPers talk about women with 50+ body count like it’s the norm. The majority of women can count on 2, sometimes even one hand the amount of sexual partners they’ve had before they got married. How old are you and do you live in the west? 'Before they got married' is the dead giveaway there, the median age for women getting married nowadays is 29. That's means this majority of women you're describing weren't even out 'sewing their wild oats' in the current hookup and OLD paradigm. I live in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsOkay, so a woman isn’t squandering her youth (like you said in the OP) if she decides to “sow her wild oat” from 18-25. Since she isn’t over her “peak” years yet. No, and yes. She hasn't squandered her years, but she 'has' lowered her RMV substantially. People on here want to deny it, but evidence bares out time and again that higher quality men (and men in general) don't want to commit to a woman who'se been around the block. I'm not talking about 5 or even 10 guys in committed relationships. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 10:05 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsWould the average 38 year old man want a serious LTR or marriage with a 21 year old? The overwhelming majority would say no. Agree 100%. At 33 I was dating 25-28 year olds and at 22 my current gf was below my threshold for who I was willing to date at the time. But we clicked anyway and she proved to be a lot more mature and down to earth than most girls 5 years her senior. If it works, it works. You’re confusing sexual attraction with LTR compatibility. If you want to go out and aggressively pu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 09:32 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsLol bro how are you going to tell me. A woman. How female nature works. Because part of female nature is that most of you don't actually know what the heck you want until it's right in front of you? That's why RP rule #1 is never listen to what a woman says, watch what she does. Also why most women say they want a nice, honest, caring guy who'll dote on them etc, but they recoil when they actually meet the guy they described, and instead go and hook up with the immature bad guy who ignores them.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsSure you do bud lol. You have an 8 pack and a face like Jamie Lannister but by the looks of your user history it looks like you spend unusually high amount of time on reddit. This is called a 'no true Scottsman' fallacy. You assume that anyone who looks the way I described wouldn't be on Reddit very often. That's like saying 'No true Christian would say that' etc. It's logically bunk. Incidentally, lots of famous people spend TONS of time on social media (twitter, Insta etc). I just prefer to re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 07:59 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsYou trying to convince yourself that the average man has the same level of sex appeal and worth as Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth or Ryan Reynolds Is absolutely delusional and hilarious. Uh.. where did I even remotely say that in the slightest? Your straw man of my actual point is delusional and hilarious. Just because a woman in her early 20s is attracted to Chris Evans doesn’t mean she’s attracted to average 38 year old men. No, but she'd be attracted to 38 year old men who look as good as they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 07:34 PM |
| 12 | [19F] Knocked up by Tyrone, now she's looking for her best friend.Damn son, what a catch. That intelligence. That spelling and grammar. That racist fetishisation of Tyrone whilst disparaging him at the same time. This hoe be a keeper ! | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 11/05/19 07:27 PM |
| 14 | [19F] Knocked up by Tyrone, now she's looking for her best friend.Yeah agreed. I mean.. she's straight up racist fetishizing black dudes, but no need to stoop to her level on here. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 11/05/19 07:25 PM |
| 6 | What are reasons why a guy would ghost a woman forever after regularly hooking up?Everything was the same except he fingered me. It felt great however when I opened my eyes I would catch him laughing at me. This is odd. Not gonna lie. Maybe you were making some kind of reaction that he found funny. That's really an immature dick move on his part though. Ok, well, this really makes me insecure and depressed. Don't be! There are other guys. And believe it or not, many of them are mature and looking for more that just casual sex with endless randos. I don't feel like I was good … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 06:16 PM |
| 2 | What are reasons why a guy would ghost a woman forever after regularly hooking up?If it weren't for the bit about him being mad/irritated, I'd say the booty call just ran its course (for him). Dudes like variety, and so after hooking up with the same girl a bunch of times he'll eventually get bored and drop you from his rotation (presuming he's meeting and hooking up with new girls all the time). That said, what was the nature of the last meeting/ interaction you had together? Was it just a booty call? Did you do anything different than usual (in bed or otherwise)? Did you tr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existAfter all that stupid shit you just said, it'd be a waste of my time to argue any further. Well that's a convenient excuse to run from a debate. You're too far gone to convince. Also, I'm not wrong. About anything. The unironic hyporisy and utter lack of self-awareness here is astounding 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 05:01 PM |
| 6 | One of my ex girlfriends also had the exact same powerOr kids. It could be that they didn't know what they were walking into due to blue pilled conditioning, then got red pilled by married life, but stay in it because of their kids. The fact is that kids do have vastly better long term outcomes when their parents stay together, so once you're that far down the rabbit hole it's best for the kids if you tough it out as the man/ father. Now what the woman/ mother does is an entirely different story, and odds are greater than not that she'll eventually… | /r/MGTOW | 11/05/19 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Being hookup material is not an accomplishment as it's just the beginningHow can only men getting casual sex be the chosen ones when most men are getting casual sex? Nearly 30% of men between the ages of 18-35 are not having any sex at all, and of the remaining 70% who are having sex, a large portion are in relationships. So clearly not 'most' men are having casual sex. These higher standards seem to only be so high. Yes, the top 20% of guys. This has been shown by who women message online, and the fact that a much larger percentage of women are having casual sex tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 04:34 PM |
| 1 | The men who hate women, hate them because women can get away with a life style some men cannot. If they could have the same "advantanges" as women they would be doing the exact things they complain about.Hundreds of thousands at least. And more and more are being added every day dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 05:06 AM |
| 1 | The men who hate women, hate them because women can get away with a life style some men cannot. If they could have the same "advantanges" as women they would be doing the exact things they complain about.75% of the problem with those groups is that have no motivation to do anything, India forced the British government to relinquish their colony by merely doing nothing. Don't confuse 'opting out' with complacency. Just as businesses need consumers in order to operate, so too do societies need active and productive participants in order to flourish. If consumers don't like a businesse's practices or product and refuse to buy, that business fails. If citizens don't like a societie's practices or so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 05:04 AM |
| 3 | The men who hate women, hate them because women can get away with a life style some men cannot. If they could have the same "advantanges" as women they would be doing the exact things they complain about.That last paragraph is the most insanely delusional thing I have read since I can remember.. that's saying a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 04:54 AM |
| 0 | Does a woman automatically become undesirable in her thirties?Yeah.. it is. Eggs are a fixed quantity and you lose 12 a year. At 35 you have 60 less than you did at 30 and 120 less than you did at 25. Additionally conception becomes quantifiably more difficult past 35 and genetic defects much more likely when conception does occur. Don't believe me, consult any fertility specialist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 04:31 AM |
| 0 | Does a woman automatically become undesirable in her thirties?Not automatically. Just on average. Pretty sure Gal Gadot who played Wonder Woman is over 30. I rest my case. Women who age well, work out stay fit, and know how to put themselves they can absolutely flourish at 30. But keep in mind the window IS rapidly closing. It's much harder to be universally appealing at 40 than 30. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/19 04:27 AM |
| 2 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existMust suck being belligerent AND wrong.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 11:44 PM |
| 2 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existIt's called "talking to people." You kids interact with the world via Fortnite and text messages and shit, so you wouldn' t know. Damn you make a lot of assumptions homie. I'm 36 and have 2 kids of my own. Thats total fucking bullshit. All your dipshit pseudoscience doesn't mean a god damned thing. Actually no. That male and female psychology are fundamentally different is well studied, generally accepted mainstream science backed up by dozens of studies across 40+ countries with tens of thousan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 08:16 PM |
| 2 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existWell, there's me, for one. Before I got married. So you're a self described 'fat, ugly, slob' who had tons of sex before he got married. Unless you're a guitarist in a rock band then please describe what this process of being a fat, ugly, slob lady killer looked like. Yes, the exact same set of behaviors. I'm glad we agree. Except we don't. Men an women have different sexual psychology and vastly different access to sex, so to hold them to the same set of expectations is logically incoherent. It… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 02:47 PM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existno argument can convince women who are repulsed by studs that high N count men are attractive because of their N count. Noone that their n count is "what' made them attractive. Just that they must almost certainly be attractive or high status if they do (unless they paid for it or used other coercive measures). And why give a shit at all? It's a common trope by some posters on here that men and women's behavior in this arena are interchangeable and should be viewed by the same standard, but that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 02:33 PM |
| 2 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existA slut is defined as a sexually promiscuous person By who exactly? How is this even a debate. Because men and women are not the same? Nearly all women can get sex easily. So when a women is a slut, it's an indicator of poor character. Most men can not get sex easily. So if a man has access to a wide variety of women, it's an indicator of status. Also, this sub likes to conveniently ignore the fact that male and female sexual psychology are fundamentally different. Men are evolutionarily wired to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 04:00 AM |
| 3 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existWomen are always going to grimace at women being called “sluts.” Except when it's women doing the slut shaming (which is most of the people doing it). And men are always going to be impressed by other men being able to have sex with a lot of women. Because (surprise) it's something that's very difficult, or impossible, for most other men. This is a thing men care about. Yes it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 03:50 AM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existsome of the things I've read here about promiscuous women being lower life-forms and deserving suffering and punishment has been really disturbing. Yeah well those kind of thoughts and comments aren't cool. Noone is deserving of suffering, even those who act maliciously toward others. It's not about lionizing the man as much as the judgment against women. We all judge each other for our behavior. I am personally in the camp that an overly promiscuous woman (like the kind that blows three random … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 03:16 AM |
| 2 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existIf a fat, ugly slobby dude has sex with lots of women, he still gets to be called a Stud. And how many fat ugly slobs are actually having sex with lots women? Yeah, didn't think so. Because this distinction has nothing to do with the individual's behavior, but is rather a way to insult women who don't want to have sex with you. Actually it has everything to do with behavior.. because it is a label that literally refers to a specific set of behaviors . And incidentally, most men would still fuck … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 03:07 AM |
| 1 | Any advices for her?Yeah, don't be a money hungry bitch who doesn't give two fucks about the guy behind the wallet. Oh wait.. I forgot that's all women. Oops. | /r/MGTOW | 10/05/19 01:48 AM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existI don't see how. I literally just said that one of these stories happened to a friend in my actual life. Unless by 'prosecution rests' you mean 'conveniently ignoring whatever refutes my case'. In which case, good job! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 01:40 AM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existOne was irl through friends. Another on r/amitheasshole and another on YouTube. Besides, r/MGTOW mostly share things from around the web anyway, so what? Are you going to say that all those stories are bullshit now because they don't support your narrative? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 01:30 AM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existYeah? Cuz I've heard three stories this week alone of men who broke up with their girlfriends and even called off engagements because their partner lied about her sexual history and then got busted. So apparently they 'do' care just a bit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existAre you saying it’s more socially acceptable for men to sleep with lots of highly attractive women? Pretty much (if he can). Isn’t that a bit subjective? There are lots of people who think obesity is attractive, so just saying that fucking fat women makes you a slut doesn’t work. Not really. Of course there are outliers and kinks, what people objectively find attractive in the opposite sex is mostly universal. Women around the world predominantly are attracted to status, wealth, height, muscular… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 01:17 AM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existI don't really care though. I know I had them, and it doesn't matter if they believe it or not. I just think 'Only a sexless loser could think that!' is a hilariously pathetic, and sadly all too common rebuttal in this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 01:04 AM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existNice to hear an honest and reasonable voice in this discussion. Kudos. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existWhat if he was attractive, had money, a good personality, and said that his player days were in the past and he was looking to settle down and start a family or whatever? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 12:28 AM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existAh, gotcha. I guess I should have phrased it more as a question then. I get accused of being untruthful by the ladies on here all the time though. It's literally one of their favorite 'arguments' to trot out 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/19 12:26 AM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existSorry, can you elaborate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 11:59 PM |
| 4 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existExcept that a lot of people seem to not be able to get their heads around or accept that seemingly self-evident fact. Or have you not been reading the comments? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 11:08 PM |
| 3 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existThis is absolute bullshit. I've lived in the two major entertainment capitals of North America, am in the acting and fashion scenes, and know and have dated models. Yes, casual sex is rampant... But that's the same for everyone in every major city. And even in that context, 300 is an exceptionally high number. That's 52 new sex partners a year for 6 years. You honestly want to say that every model is fucking a new 'rich' man every week for 6 years straight? That's your claim? I guess it depends … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existAnd I'm sure that wouldn't change if he was rich, famous, or looked like walking perfection 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 10:57 PM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existHe was also Wilt Chamberlain. Virtually one in a billion in human history. Men who can have sexual access to a variety of the most beautiful women in the world will use it. Just as women will go for the highest value man she can get. Calling a man of Wilt Chamberlain's ability, achievement, and net worth a slut for being promiscuous with beautiful women because he can is like calling a woman with 1 in a billion level attractiveness a gold digger for marrying the wealthiest man in the world. It m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existI'm a dude, so no. But clearly a lot of very attractive women did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 09:22 PM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existAnd I know plenty of dudes who can fuck as many $50.00 crack whores as they want. That doesn't make them a stud. What you're saying is that most men would have to lower their standards to almost unthinkable depths in order to have (not even) as easy access to sex as nearly all women.. and basically proving my point in the process. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existThe fact that you think that's comparable to who can and can't be a slut by technicality tells me you are the specific type of person I pegged you as. Wow. You actually trotted that fallacy out twice in one interaction. Gotta be some kind of record 👏👏👏 But incidentally, we are talking about fundamental inate power imbalances between genders, so yeah.. it's comparable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 08:58 PM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existIf I only ever see one very specific type of person make an argument, How do you know what type of person is making the argument? We're all anonymous online. I detect a giant pile of projection and assumptions here. and that argument is meant to make their "team" look better More assumptions. How do you know what the intention of all these people are in making the argument? If power disparity is the hill you wanna die on then you'll make great friends with all the SJWs who like to harp on that p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 08:40 PM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existObesity was never seen as attractive. Go look at any painting depicting beauty of antiquities. Male gladiators got more (willing) pussy than any obese roman aristocrat could hope for. Source? ( And please don't say some HBO tv series..) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 08:13 PM |
| 3 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existIt doesn't matter if he had to work harder to achieve it. You're the only one trying to add extra qualifiers so your point works. You sit there and discount something as fundamental as a massive disparity in access and effort required, literally employing a massive double standard, and then accuse me of fudging the metric? Smh. I've never seen anyone but desperate pillsphere dudes try to make this argument. And of course the good old 'Anyone who makes this point must be a loser' fallacy. Never g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 08:11 PM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existI'm afraid you have utterly misunderstood or misrepresented every point here... In ancient times, a poor person who managed to eat a lot of food still got fat. The point isn't that they 'would' get fat.. it's about how many poor people 'could' get fat. Almost none. As such, being fat was seen as a sign of status and was considered attractive. Power differential doesn't stop any aversion to potentionally being abandoned after being knocked up. This applies to women, and should be even more damnin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 07:59 PM |
| 7 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existyes, and if that supermodel has fucked like 300 different rich dudes, she's a slut. Name one supermodel who has fucked 300 'rich' dudes or actors. 99/100 times it's gonna be the other way around. The fact that you had to concoct an absurdly unrealistic scenario to 'disprove' my point speaks volumes here. sluttiness is based on the quantity of the people you fuck, not the quality. Right, because there's no difference between fucking 50 super models and 50 crack whores. Tldr; Your points are a fuc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 07:49 PM |
| 3 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existOnly if you define being a slut as being synonymous with promiscuity, period. What I'm saying is that it isn't, or at least a man can never be a 'slut' in the same context as it applies to females. What does it mean to be rich in a world where money can be obtained equally by everyone merely by stepping out and going to a bottomless ATM? Surely not the same as it means to be rich in an economy where money must be worked hard for and earned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existSays the person with the power advantage. That's like a male fighter beating up a female fighter and then saying strength has nothing to do with whether a person wins or not. Would you like to actually contend with any of the points or analogies in the OP, or did you just come here to make unsupported assertions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 07:27 PM |
| -1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existOne is implying something admirable and impressive and the other is dirty and looked down upon at least that is what those words connote to me. Then you haven't been paying attention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 07:10 PM |
| 3 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existBoth are rich, one was a rapist and sexual extortionist, and the other was attractive when he was younger. Not really proving anything with both those examples. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existMy point is his notch count is not impressive to her it is impressive to other men. Women desire things that other women desire. It won't be impressive if he spells it out explicitly, but nothing ever is. So when you base your argument on this whole idea that his n count is something admirable Where did I say that it was admirable? I said that it is easy for most women and hard for most men, therefore if a man can do it then he is 'exceptional'. It's not the act of doing it that is attractive.. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 07:06 PM |
| 2 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existShe’s gonna either think he’s gross or be neutral about it, she’s not likely to be impressed by some dude who gets laid a lot for his ability to get laid a lot - other men will be but not women. Depends on the quality of women he can attract. She won't be 'impressed' by a man who 'has' slept with a variety of women per se. But just watch how women behave around a guy who has been seen with a supermodel on his arm, or who appears to have several attractive women vying for his attention. Do you th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 06:51 PM |
| 1 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existVery good points! I supposed I should put a caveat in there that there are no male sluts, in the sense that a male slut can never be analogous to a female slut. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 06:14 PM |
| 4 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existHe didn't have to do anything to be hot. It's not about what a person had to do, it's about a power differential in baseline access. He was born attractive like a woman can be born attractive. False equivalency. A woman doesn't have to be in the top 20% of attractiveness to get lots of sex. The ones who are don't go after sex, they go after rich and high status men. Feel free to praise the alpha but by your parameters, if he sleeps around a lot with all the vaj being thrown at him, he's a slut. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 05:49 PM |
| 5 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existThey are still exceptional by definition. It's about access, not effort. In ancient times only the wealthy could over eat, and so obesity was seen as attractive and a sign of status. Nowadays food is abundant, so obesity is seen as unattractive and a sign of poor self-control. Studs are the obese kings, sluts are just obese. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 05:34 PM |
| 2 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existA 'hot guy' is exceptional by definition, and not a slut. Just as a woman who could knock out a man in a fist fight is a beast and praise worthy, but a man who does so to a woman is just like every other man in ability, and a piece of shit for taking advantage of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 05:20 PM |
| -2 | Male sluts do not (and CAN not) existMeans he's been sleeping with low quality women. Still doesn't make him a slut. He's just not a stud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 05:16 PM |
| 18 | Relax and take notesDude still pays half what I do to my ex, and I only had 2 kids with her... | /r/MGTOW | 08/05/19 03:33 AM |
| 2 | What's your n-count?36 m. Canada. N=70-80 ish. Married once for 5 years. Currently in a 3 year ltr. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/19 07:02 AM |
| 41 | Discussion: "women are feeling increasingly burdened by unpaid emotional labor", particularly in the context of emotional relationships (Harper's Baazar)90% of the emotional labor. Right, because women never expect men to be their shoulder to cry and vent on about friends, work, Family, random strangers, and whatever other shit happens to set them off. Smh. Women contrive a society that pushes men to be more effeminate and emotionally available, and then bitch and ditch when they oblige. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/19 06:31 PM |
| 3 | Jesus christTo be fair, we always call out female double standards here at MGTOW. And we also always call out women for lowering their frequency of sex or denying sex after cohabitation. So maybe we shouldn't be enforcing a double standard ourselves, no? | /r/MGTOW | 03/05/19 09:16 PM |
| 6 | We can't know what she wants or what she offers, but apparently its hard. I think she is seeing exactly how hard that wall is.Well... She has the writing skill of a 3rd grader, so that'll tell you something. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 03/05/19 03:22 PM |
| 1 | NASA just released a new photoKids too. | /r/MGTOW | 02/05/19 01:41 PM |
| 11 | NASA just released a new photowhile you living on a tight budget broke as hell on the verge of bankruptcy or homelessness. Haha, I'm on my shit, so it's not quite 'that' bad. But as it stands she takes 70% of my income, leaving me with no way to save or buy luxuries for myself (cars, a home etc). | /r/MGTOW | 02/05/19 03:42 AM |
| 77 | NASA just released a new photoOof. This one hits close to home. I've given her nearly $200k post-tax in the past 3 years. I'm still renting my apartment while she lives in a gated luxury highrise. I take transit while she drives a Lexus SUV. I work 60 hours a week. She hasn't worked a day since Feb. 2009 (the day we got married). Don't be me boyos. | /r/MGTOW | 02/05/19 03:08 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women should do whatever they want and not listen to anything men say about how to get a man. It’s the only way to find a good true partner in life.If women want to find a good life partner, they should be their best selves. Their best true authentic selves. If they do that, the person they end up with will know that this woman and her personality is what they want. It’s hard to change someone’s innate character and the best relationships are ones where the other person loves their partner ugly warts and all. If you'd have stopped here then I'd have agreed with you 100%. Although I guess it depends what their 'best, authentic self' means. S… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/19 06:33 PM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)You want a lolli for that sick playground burn? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/19 03:51 PM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)Are you twelve, or just mentally disabled? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/19 03:46 PM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)probably a typical creep that thinks with the disgusting wrinkled sacks between his legs If true, that sack between my legs is infinitely more intelligent and articulate than the wrinkled mass between yours ears so 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/19 12:33 PM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)Or... It's an accurate description of the period of time that has elapsed since I first became sexually active at 16 years old. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/19 12:31 PM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)well men collectively fucked HISTORY up for women Right. All those nice clothes, and hand bags, and the smart phones and internet you use to type this, and grocery stores, and airplanes to take you to your nice vacation spots, and protection from foreign invaders, and electricity, and heating, and indoor plumbing. Every creature comfort and security you now take for granted, and even the fact that you can have a thing called a 'job' to earn money to buy those things. You owe ALL of that to men, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/19 12:10 PM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)hence why women can live by their pussy just by simply having the gold flaps between our legs we dont even need to do much work like men...hence even why the sex trade exists with PUSSY being the one more valued. Yeah. There are a lot of hard up dudes who'll pay for it, allowing the lower quality females to be social parasites that contribute nothing to society apart from their pussies that they were born with. makes you angry huh incel creep ahahahha Calling a man who hasn't had a dry spell lon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/19 12:05 PM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)Kinda hard to be thirsty when you're swimming in it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/19 03:38 AM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)Oh sure it is sweetheart. At least for the kinds of men that would be worth attracting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/19 03:35 AM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)Women don’t need men as much anymore, committed or uncommitted. We can have our own money , our own lives Yeah. I said that already. and can still have our own children without a man around. Not really. Unless you're talking about tricking a man into impregnating you or going to a sperm bank. But you still need a man for that, and it's also highly irresponsible as far as the child is concerned. Child psychology and social science is crystal clear on that. Women still WANT men, and want them to b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/19 02:48 AM |
| 1 | The infamous SMV graphWhy is anyone here? It's interesting. What are you getting at? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/19 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)Username checks out. But vag is cheap and plenty too so.. cheers to the decline. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/19 01:59 AM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)Nice unsupported assertion there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 06:05 PM |
| 4 | The infamous SMV graphI'm a 36 m. I did well in my early 20's in college. Better in my late 20's. But by far my best years we 30-35. Hands down. I attribute this to being more mature. More confident and smooth around women. And of course better dressed and better career. It also helps that I've worked out steadily for those 15 years and watched my diet, and so packed on about 25 lbs of muscle and very little fat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)I did study history and read extensively on prostitution. Wives are for children and running a household. Prostitutes and Mistresses are for sex. Citation please. For reference, we are talking about religious communities in the west. Not pre-Christian bronze/ Iron age societies, or non-Christian Asian societies like China and Japan where prostitution was very culturally instantiated, instead of being forbidden by religious moral and social edicts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 05:47 PM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)Nice moving of the goal post. Don't fool yourself into thinking that nobody noticed. To you point.. Women still managed to commit paternity fraud, tricking their husbands into raising another man's children while cheating on him behind his back, or lie to him and tell him she loves him all the while using him for his resources, or even set him up to be murdered so she could take his belongings after he was dead. But seriously, what is you point precisely? That men and women did shitty things to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)This is a discussion about buying and selling power in the SMP/RMP. Within that context, what other incentive does a man have to get married? Kids? Can have those outside of marriage. Companionship? Can get that outside of marriage too. You balk at the idea of it, yet can not provide a refutation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)he is claiming that women were all in loving marriages. Please point to the place where I claimed that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)Are you going to ignore the fact that throughout history, most women were slaves and peasants Throughout history most men were slaves and peasants too. What's your point? I'm talking about bargaining power in the RMP and how women lower theirs when they give sex away for free. who were either raped or coerced into shitty marriages to domineering and cruel men Some were. But most? No. Throughout history most women were in marriages to men of roughly their level of status. And incidentally, throug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 03:58 PM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)The post is about fantasizing about how good it was in the old days when women were under mens' collective thumb No. It's describing a reality that existed for a very long time for biological and societal reasons. Stop projecting and straw manning. and about a future where those sluts will be reined in. Nowhere does the OP propose any type of future, let alone one where 'sluts will be reigned in'. BTW if she fucks you and then ghosts you something went really wrong. Most of the time you'll have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 03:53 PM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)What part of any of this even remotely references incel ideology? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 03:49 PM |
| 2 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)Less people is good. We do not need 7 billion people to continue the species. We can do very well on less than half that. Ok there Thanos. Unfortunately that's not what will happen though. Developed civilization needs a stable population or else we face massive recessions and depressions (or worse). The governments know this, so if we don't have babies then they'll just import them from other parts of the world. England is on track to becoming an Islamic theocracy and Canada is on track to becom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 02:28 PM |
| 5 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)How is this authoritarian in any way. The post is about women giving up their own power. There are now two classes of men: those who are overlooked, and those who are highly attractive and in demand. Women don't care about and don't need the first group of men, and the second no longer need to commit to just one woman because free sex everywhere. This is what women mean when they say 'where have all the good men gone?'. Oh they're here. They just wanna fuck and then ghost you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)You've been watching too much game of thrones. This is not how it worked in most of the religious west. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 01:57 PM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)Last I checked they are posting daily on r/dating advice, and online dating coaches for women get millions of followers and fill out auditoriums teaching women how to overcome this problem.. so yeah, there are a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 01:47 PM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)Not many women like that, and those who are complain about not getting LTR with a Chad specifically. You just need to spend any time on r/datingadvice, read articles from major news publications, or check out some of the online dating coaches for women with millions of followers to know this isn't the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 01:45 PM |
| 2 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)I have kids with my ex wife (who fucked me over pretty hard). But I still want more with my current ltr. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)when you already have kids. I have two kids with my ex wife. Doesn't mean I don't still want kids in the future with my current ltr. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 01:40 PM |
| 1 | Girlfriend is shocked after I refuse to pay for something (for once). Fuck this, I’m out.Sounds like fun. Care to share with us why you're on r/MGTOW and not some PUA shithole? Because I believe in TRP and much of what mgtow are saying? And I'm pretty sure being a monk isn't the only way to be mgtow. Like.. being aware of the pitfalls of getting involved with a woman, avoiding being used for your resources, and rejecting marriage and other forms of indentured servitude. You're sure as fuck not picking up any of the wisdom dispensed here. Pretty sure I am. And pretty you're confused … | /r/MGTOW | 30/04/19 01:37 PM |
| 2 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)I don't think men do not crave commitment though in the same way as women. I agree. I actually mentioned this in the OP too, but basically men certainly do crave a relationship as well. It's just that they have no incentive to marry any longer. And they don't crave it in quite the way women do. Just as women don't crave sex in quite the same way men do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 05:08 AM |
| 2 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)Trying to make it sound like women are somehow the "losers" here is fucking ridiculous. Tell that to all the women complaining about wanting an ltr or husband yet keep getting ghosted after sex. I will not get into reasons why historically women were unemployed and men employed, Uh.. reproduction? Marriage was never a "social contract" it was an economic contract. It was a guarantee to the unemployed woman that the employed man will not leave her one day with absolutely nothing. It was a social … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 05:01 AM |
| 6 | Girlfriend is shocked after I refuse to pay for something (for once). Fuck this, I’m out.Oh, yeah, great idea. Trigger an endless cycle of tantrums and escalations and shit tests... Ending, if he's lucky, with the THOT exiting the scene. Not saying 'no' IS failing the shit test. I put my foot down in my relationship constantly. I call her out on her irrational bullshit. I refuse to be a wallet. Tell her she's a grown ass self-sufficient woman and she earns her own money, so she can buy herself that damn $600 Dyson hair dryer. She pays me rent. Pays for meals and outings for both of … | /r/MGTOW | 30/04/19 04:39 AM |
| 9 | Girlfriend is shocked after I refuse to pay for something (for once). Fuck this, I’m out.No woman is hot enough to put up with any of this shit. But.. I've known some anime cosplay con girls that were fucking LA 9's still. | /r/MGTOW | 30/04/19 04:24 AM |
| 3 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)I did say in the first paragraph that I'm sure the decline in marriage is due to several factors, but for the purposes of this thread I am going to focus on just one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 03:41 AM |
| 7 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)I am just suck to fucking death of childless men bleating Why do you assume either of us are childless or bleating? Do you deny that children being raised by both parents is in their best interest? Or that in order for civilization to flourish we need to be having children at at least population replacement levels? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 03:38 AM |
| 6 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)Marriage rates are not that low and cohabitation has increased greatly. People are delaying marriage, but cohabitating frequently beforehand. I am not sure that there is some sort of commitment crisis among the general population like you’re suggesting. Interesting. This contradicts the study I read, but this is PEW and is likely more credible. I would think among marriages these days there is more sex than in marriages historically. Agreed. There are just less marriages, and evidently less sex … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 03:36 AM |
| 5 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)Yes. Two of them, (9m) and (6f). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 03:21 AM |
| 3 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)How does that resolve anything? And why are you always so fucking angry bro? Chiiiiiiiill | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 03:19 AM |
| 7 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)they married to have families Sex makes babies. But men married because it was a requirement, both religious and from women. because it is a religious sacrament in at least every western faith the idea that youre marrying for sex specifically is very modern and novel Because no religious men ever rushed to get married asap so the could finally fuck. Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 03:06 AM |
| 3 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)Word. Yeah, I'm in a ltr and want kids. But not getting married any time soon, and aware of the potential pitfalls in the current paradigm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 03:02 AM |
| 2 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)I hope so. Our civilization and species more or less depend on it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 02:55 AM |
| 13 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)I like this. Nailed it. I'm not sure there'll be a marriage 3.0 though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 02:43 AM |
| 1 | Women have collectively given up their power in the RMP (whether they meant to or not)If you are the kind of person that enjoys companionship and wants to find someone to spend their life with and grow old with, then you have a reason to enter into a committed relationship, and I think there are plenty of men and women that do want exactly this. This is already covered in the OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/19 02:41 AM |
| 7 | N-Count is a proxy for being a “slut” and it is okay to be insecure about dating “sluts”.I mostly agree with this. It's more about the behavior of debasing the value of sex and intimacy, as well as the premium on her own sexual access, by being overly casual about it with a variety of men. The trope of the sloppy dancefloor or club bathroom hookup epitomizes this type of behavior. While N-count is indeed a proxy for this, it would be very difficult for a woman who places a high value on intimacy and bonding, as it pertains to sex, to rack up a super high n-count by the age of say 22… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/19 09:15 PM |
| 9 | HellIf Thanos disappeared only these degenerate types when he snapped his fingers, instead of just half of all people at random, the movie End Game wouldn't have been needed. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 28/04/19 05:49 PM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVYou clearly don't understand how analogies work. I'm not comparing the subject of the analogy. I'm demonstrating how the framework of the argument is fallacious. Jeesus. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/19 04:06 PM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVIt should because that's a bad idea. Generally, large age gap relationships are risky as hell. Agreed. My point is that it seems to be more due to stigma than actual lack of attraction and compatibility (at least when the gap is only around 10ish years or so). Like saying a Muslim marrying a Christian in a devout Muslim community might be risky. Hence, going back to the belief that marrying young is a very bad idea. Marrying, perhaps. Depends on the community and culture again. People marry youn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/19 04:00 PM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVCan't you use a better one than an SJW style "LITERALLY HITLER" narrative? Straw man fallacy. I never even came close to saying 'literally Hitler'. The argument was 'The average age that men get married is 29. So clearly men don't mind.' And I responded by showing a situation where millions of people were engaged in something that they clearly minded. End of argument. If it helps your snowflake sensibilities though I could have said that most of the laborers in Congolese mineral mines are childr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/19 03:53 PM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVHey pot! Meet kettle! Not really. I mentioned that social scientists derived a possible cause of the high divorce rates in age gap couples based on the study participants own responses. You just said 'That's BS because I assert it as a logical impossibility.'. Not the same thing even remotely. However, I don't think a couple could work normally. There's ALOT of factors that could go wrong. For one, is the 35 year old man mature? Whether someone thinks it could work normally is not what was being… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/19 03:44 PM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVThis makes literally zero sense. I didn't compare the gravity of the holocaust to anything at all. I used it in an analogous argument to demonstrate the fallacious structure of the argument. Not my fault if you can't understand that there's a difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/19 03:41 PM |
| 0 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVYou comparing the holocaust to something trivial is so disrespectful, it does not deserve my acknowledgement. Miss me with your virtue signaling. The point was to use an extreme to illustrate the fact that the number of people affected by a phenomenon has zero evidence for whether or not they want to be involved in the phenomenon in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/19 02:38 PM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVThat's BS because they wouldnt even be married in the first place. Way to assert an absolute with zero basis. Thing is, people often have rose colored goggles on during the courting and honeymoon phase, but then get divorced after the reality of every day married life sets in. This phenomenon occurs for religious differences, alcohol consumption, ethic and cultural differences, porn and a myriad of other causes that get overlooked or ignored in the beginning stages of a relationship, but become … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/19 02:35 PM |
| 12 | [22M] "My friend's mom said that when women are younger they chase after a guy that is hot and crazy. But when they are older they will be standing in line for me. I would rather be single forever than with someone that wouldn't give me a shot when she was younger."Red pilled by the 'lets just be friends' girl's mom. Ouch | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 28/04/19 12:29 AM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVThat's typically one or two years. Maybe traditionally, but more and more people are waiting longer and longer to get married. A recent study found that only 25% of Americans between 18 and 34 were married in 2016, and that number has dropped further since. The average age people get married is 27 for women and 29 for men. CLEARLY men don't mind. Apart from this stat no longer being valid, 'men not minding' doesn't really have any explanatory power. That's like saying the overwhelming ethnicity … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/19 05:29 PM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVThis advice doesn't benefit men at all, just wait till your 30 bro. Some men become better at 30, others don't. Other men start balding, gaining weight, etc. This is the worst kind of redpill cope, this idea most men become Chads at 30, we do not. Re read it bro. This is an observation, not advice. And it is directed toward women, not men. Nobody's saying wait until you turn 30 and magically become Chad. I'm saying that, on average, men peak for RMV in their early to mid 30's (if they work on th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/19 05:14 PM |
| 2 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVSaying a ring is unimportant is typical male gaslighting and carries no significance I'm afraid you don't understand what gaslighting means love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/19 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsHow are they not? Read some basic literature on intersexual dynamics and differential attraction cues between men and women. More toned and fit, fewer wrinkles, etc. Check out some of the 30 something male fitness models and athletes on Insta and tell me that men's body's don't age better than women on average, and also at the limit. Same goes for the impact of wrinkles and age lines. For men it can make them look more masculine and mature, which are sexy. For women they just make them look olde… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/19 01:19 AM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVYou need to explain why social stigma is too weak to impact a relationship in the first case, yet strong enough to end one in the second. Explains I’m not reading all of that. Lol, ok bud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/19 01:08 AM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVIf that is true, you need to improve your reading comprehension. Or maybe people here need to improve how they formulate their arguments. Also, we get it. You’re enjoying your Logic 101 course. It's a debate sub You need to explain why social stigma is too weak to impact a relationship in the first case, yet strong enough to end one in the second. Actually I don't because the conclusion of the study didn't, and I was referring to the study. Anything I ad to that would be pure conjecture. But I'l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/19 12:32 AM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVShe opens it up for you to further explain your reasoning. What further explanation can be given to 'social stigma from society, friends and family is one potential explanation that was concluded from the studies'. That's the conclusion that was drawn based on feedback from the study subjects. She said 'I find that hard to believe'. That's the end of it. Any native speaker would interpret what she wrote as such. No true Scottsman fallacy. And I'm a native speaker homie. Edit:. In case you don't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/19 12:16 AM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVWhy present it as a response then? What is the 'intended' reading of 'because I find it hard to believe your point X'? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/19 12:09 AM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMV'Argument from incredulity: Appeal to common sense, or personal incredulity, asserts that because something is so incredible or difficult to imagine, it is wrong. ... Arguments from incredulity can take the form: I cannot imagine how P could be true; therefore P must be false.' https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_fallacy This is literally what was presented as a response to me. Why would you claim something is false when anyone can so easily look it up and demonstrate that you're talking out … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/19 12:04 AM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVI made suggestions based on observed and studied behavior, hardly arbitrary. You asserted an absolute without justification. Not the same thing. Even in the slightest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 11:58 PM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVThat bad huh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 11:31 PM |
| 0 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVTex didn’t come to a conclusion. So it isn’t an argument, and not a fallacy. The argument was 'your explanation doesn't make much sense to me', and the implied conclusion was 'therefore your explanation is invalid'. This is the very definition of argument from incredulity fallacy. Look it up, son. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 09:27 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsAs a young woman, why would I want a jaded man past his prime Not jaded against 'all' women, just certain types. And a man and woman's prime are not the interchangeable love. But trust me, I really couldn't give less fucks if someone like you wants me (without ever having met me mind you). and despite apparently wh*ring yourself around a la “meaningless hookups”, you judge women who do/have done the same. I didn't know then what I know now, I consider it a mistake, and had I known I would have d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 08:59 PM |
| 0 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVBy who? By social scientists who have analyzed the results of the studies. Do you have an explanation for the correlation? Or are you implying that correlation and causation are interchangeable. It doesn't make much sense to me that social stigma wouldn't keep a couple from getting married in the first place but it would cause them to get divorced. Argument from incredulity fallacy. The mere fact that it doesn't make sense to you does nothing to invalidate it as an explanation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 08:51 PM |
| 0 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVThat was sarcasm. Your arbitrary opinion of what constitutes a successful relationship has no bearing on reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 08:44 PM |
| -1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVRight. Because a ring is the only valid determinant of relationship success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 07:31 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsBecause all I ever get are the female equivalent of neckbrards 'reeeee'ing instead of actual responses. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 05:51 PM |
| -1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVNot yet, but in an ltr. We met when she was 22 and I was 33. Now she's 25 and I'm 36, and we're talking marriage in the near-ish future. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 05:49 PM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVDoesn't say. Just that of 2000 couples studied, there was no recorded difference in divorce rate and the couples with larger gaps actually rates higher in terms of relationship satisfaction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 04:55 PM |
| -2 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVThe studies are out there about age gap increasing the divorce rate and women preferring men just a few years older. This has been linked more to social stigma than anything else. Men in their 30's do look good, but I'm 27 now. Back when I was 19 and single? Haha no. Who said anything about 19? But as a 30-35 year old man I went on over 100 dates and had a dozen or so relationships before I found the one I really wanted to commit to. All between 22 and 26. It was the same for literally all my 30… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 04:23 PM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVI said 'attract' not 'marry'. Most people don't get married until they've been dating for a few years. If you start trying to be serious at 27-32, then chances are you won't meet someone and get them to commit until 30's at the earliest, if at all. By then you're well out of your peak SMV/RMV and most quality men will either be taken or looking for something closer to their peak. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 04:18 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsCategory #1. Insults aren't arguments sweetheart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 03:26 PM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVSend nudes and we can get it sorted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 03:25 PM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVI've already posted links to studies in the referenced article showing this assertion to be false. Relationships with an age gap of 10 -15 years show a satisfaction rating of 75% and divorce at par with realationships that have an age gap of less than 5 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsYour girlfriend is in finance, and she model for top end designers, and she's an international exchange student She's doing her master's in finance. And you know people can both model and be an international student at the same time right? You've been dating for almost 3 or 5 years. She's been here for 5. We've been dating for 3. (all you discussion lead to your ever changing humble brag) Because every time i get the same 'You only think this because you can't get laid' or 'No woman would ever d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsHey, I got nothing to prove to you my man. Reality is what it is and your dial of it does shit all to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 01:26 PM |
| 0 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVNot against the 10 year older version of themselves who got their shit together. Look dude, don't take it as a diss. If you slay at 22 as a man, then you'll slay even more at 32 if you play your cards right. This is fact. Every guy who killed it in college and stayed fit into his 30's agrees that it just gets better. The ladies who deny this do so out of fear and spite. Don't let them fool you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 04:32 AM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVSeems like you were the one doing the fantasizing my dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 04:21 AM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVDid you feel me spooge on your face too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 04:17 AM |
| 1 | RESPONSE: Women should act quickly to attract a high quality partner while they are at peak SMVCategory 1. Stupid tired ass name calling bullshit. Does anyone actually have a brain on this sub? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 04:12 AM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsCool story bro 👍. Could it be that maybe I've just been exposed to the hedonism and degeneracy so much that I'm just over it, and see what it does to relationships and society in general and think that monogamy and sexual discretion is actually the better thing for everyone? I mean, what did I say in the OP really? Ladies, use your youth to attract a good man and commit, instead of wasting it fucking around with meaningless sex and partying. Seriously, what's wrong with that? Is hedonism really … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 01:45 AM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsAn incel with an n=50+ count and an ltr 11 years his junior. Yup. Nailed it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/19 01:22 AM |
| 0 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsUsername checks out. But this tired old 'You're just mad cuz you're a loser can't get laid' argument sure doesn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 11:05 PM |
| 2 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsPeak female SMV is 16-26, declining from 17 onwards. Peak male SMV is about the same. This bullshit about prime women preferring guys in their 30s is a male fantasy. Citation? Cuz this says otherwise: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/style/dating-apps-online-men-women-age.amp.html | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsWhat does my post history have to do with how my gf views our relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 10:34 PM |
| 0 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillswhy are 81% of men with women within 5 years of their own age or significantly older than them? Could be a variety of factors, such as: Social stigma of dating an older guy. So they arbitrarily rule them out in life and via online dating filters. They just don't meet each other as much because their social circles and lifestyles don't overlap as much There are less good men still available at that age because they got involved in an ltr or marriage already. Many men at that age don't go for the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 10:01 PM |
| 0 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsThese shame tactics are so predictable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 09:54 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsThat's cute. Refuting a supposed assertion with an assertion. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/style/dating-apps-online-men-women-age.amp.html | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrills> You do realize that she doesn't see you as the person she will live together with for the rest of her life, even if your story is true? Damn you sure do assume a lot. I mean, she's taking me back to her home to meet her mother and family next month. And frequently initiates talks about kids and marriage etc. Definitely seems like the behavior of a woman who doesn't see a future here. >You however have described yourself as a sugar daddy making grad school just a little easier. How have I done … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 09:43 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsThat's not why. Women like men their own age because they have more in common and the guy is more attractive than an older man. So if Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Gosling, Chris Evans, or Chris Hemsworth approached a 25 year old woman, she wouldn't find them objectively attractive. Even if they were just normal guys with decent careers looking exactly like those guys do? They're all late 30's now, maybe even into their 40's. But they were definitely universally considered sex symbols in their mid 30's. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsYeah. That's the one legitimate regret/ negative I've actually experienced. We won't get a lot of 'firsts' together because I've already been there. The plus side is that when shit does hit the fan, most of the time I know what I'm doing and she can rely on me to come through instead of being an immature fuck up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 09:29 PM |
| 0 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsFor one, in their early to mid 20s, women are either in school or pursuing the early stages of their career. Getting with someone in their mid 30s is pretty incompatible with that. I'm 36. Been with a girl for nearly 4 years, since her second year of undergrad and now in her second year of her master's. They would likely want two different things out of life at that time, which would cause strife in the relationship. Literally zero strife so far. Apart from my not being able to relocate to pursu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 08:38 PM |
| 2 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsAre you twelve? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 07:20 PM |
| -1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsThis doesn't even make sense. It's literally incoherent within the context of the OP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsLol. It's a debate forum about dating, the sexual marketplace, and intersex dynamics. I've done posts on the best male strategy too. If you don't like the debate, don't come to the forum? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 07:19 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsAll good points. I appreciate the level headed response rather than usual venom and hysteria in this sub. My thoughts on your points: we cannot fall back on the kind of instinctual companionship/comradery/friendship one has with ones peers. My gf and I have that. I know anecdote is note a rule, but we're best buds and that works for me. When it's 2am and I'm laughing at an ironic meme I can't turn over and show it to him without him thinking im a child/retard I'm usually the one sending her the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 06:56 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsThat would be conjecture. But yeah, 22 is young. 25-26 is peak for commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 06:18 PM |
| 0 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsWhat people are disagreeign with si the idea that MOST women are attarcted to older men. In fact the very article you linked says: 'But when it comes to our own relationships, both men and women prefer someone their own age' You are overlooking one key factor affecting why the 'outcomes' of relationships show a preference for women picking someone closer to their own age. Namely social stigma. There is a strong culture of shaming that happens when a younger woman ends up with an older guy. This … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsI like how you conveniently ignored everything else I mentioned there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 06:01 PM |
| 3 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrills> If all you are looking for a pretty nimble thing, fine. Way to have some low standards, though. Not all I'm looking for. She's also intelligent, educated, comes from a good family backgroung, has solid morals/ ethics (probably because she doesn't come from the morally bankrupt west), mature, reasonable, and family minded. > Fact is, though, most men don't have those qualities you listed at any age. Not my problem. > I'll be over here enjoying my life with my wife, while your barely-out-of-coll… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 05:52 PM |
| 0 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsI've been checked. No problems in sperm or t count here. Thanks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 05:43 PM |
| -1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrills'studies find the relationship satisfaction reported by age-gap couples is higher. These couples also seem to report greater trust and commitment and lower jealousy than similar-age couples. Over three-quarters of couples where younger women are partnered with older men report satisfying romantic relationships.' https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-20/couple-with-a-larger-age-gap-happier/9680764 'We predicted that women in age-gap relationships will be predominantly securely attached, because it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 05:42 PM |
| 2 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsBecause people keep asserting that young women are not attracted to guys in their 30's as some sort of fact (even though it's TRP 101 that men's RMV peaks at 36). My piece of anecdotal data debunks their assertions outright. Not to mention all the other mid 30's men who are dating 20 something women in just me extended social circle. Or the fact that 'most' of the Hollywood sex symbol actors are in their mid 30's. Or the fact that most male characters in female erotica novels and rom dramas are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 05:32 PM |
| 0 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsTell that to my girlfriend then. And the one before her. And the one before that... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 05:03 PM |
| 0 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsOld men are old. Young men are young. Young people want young people. This is just flat out false. I'm afraid you don't understand basic attraction cues in men and women. I'm 36. My current girlfriend is 11 years younger than me at 25. The girl I dated before her was 25 and I was 33. Before that I dated a 24 year old. A 23 year old before that. Men are attracted to youth. Women are attracted to experience, confidence, charisma, emotional maturity, social competence, personal style, sexual prowes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 05:02 PM |
| 0 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsIt will when he finds out you're lying to his face and deceiving him. And mark my words, if he's a smart man.. he will find out. And you'll have torpedoed your own future out of some fucked up and misguided sense of entitlement. Good luck. You're gonna need it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 04:56 PM |
| -1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsApparently you haven't met such a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 04:52 PM |
| -2 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsIts not just the wallet though. It's wisdom, responsibility, maturity, sexual experience and skill, worldliness, emotional/ relationship maturity, willingness to commit, etc etc. As an older man (if I read your last comment correctly) you should know this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 04:51 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsRight, because it's not a scientific fact that women's fertility, as well as number of eggs, declines with each passing year, and sharply after 30. Or that conception becomes increasingly difficult after that time while potential for birth defects skyrockets. Wanna pay tens of thousands on fertility treatments only to potentially have disabled babies? Every doctor on the planet will tell you to just wait to start trying to conceive with your wife in her mid thirties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 04:48 PM |
| -2 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsI want a few kids, sure. And divorce rates are less if both are at similar peak RMV when they get together, and then decline together. Divorce rates are higher when either side feels the got a raw deal and can do better. Like if a man married too young, or a woman has had higher value men when she was younger, missed her shot, and the gets forced to settle for whatever she can get. Divorce rates are also higher the more prior sex partners a woman had had. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 04:45 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsWell you're an entitled, dishonest, deceptive, and manipulative excuse for a human being then, and if true, your behavior will most certainly be discovered, blow up your life, and you'll end up alone, post-wall with no options, and no more side pieces, while he rides off into the sunset with his new, young, hot, and (hopefully) faithful wife. This isn't bitterness. This is a warning. That's how it tends to go for people like you. It happened to my ex. And she still cries for forgiveness and for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 04:42 PM |
| 0 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsSo I take it you have an open relationship? Or are you just side piecing behind his back? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 04:32 PM |
| 2 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsWrong. Most 25 year old women find low value 35 year old men to be that. If they want a high value 35 year old man though... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 04:30 PM |
| 3 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsThat's not how it works luv. They DO give me a chance.. because I'm at my peak at 36. I just don't give a second glance to women past the wall with bitter thousand cock stares and no fertility left. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 04:30 PM |
| 0 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsThat's changing. As it should based on what I just described. I'm 11 years older than my GF. She's 25, I'm 36. It's working out great and I have no intentions of dumping her when she's 29 and I'm 40. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 04:28 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsWhile in the context of a committed relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 04:26 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsI see which side of the jaded and bitter spectrum you landed on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 04:23 PM |
| 1 | Women should act quickly to commit to a high quality man while at peak SMV, instead of squandering their youth and beauty chasing cheap thrillsDefine 'continue having my fun'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 04:22 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Delaying sex is an effective female method in securing a relationship with a man she is attracted toIt would help to secure a relationship with a man that she finds attractive as well. Because, as OP mentioned, it would weed out the men who only want sex and nothing long term, and also prevent from getting 'fuck zoned', because girls who put out too easy are seen as fuck material and not relationship material. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/19 02:12 AM |
| 2 | Women commentors out in force to defend a wife who is repeatedly raping her husbandWhile OP was asleep when the sexual activity was initiated, he wakes up and lets it happen. Actually he said he tries to tell her to stop and then she coerces him by saying that he should want it and that he doesn't find her attractive if he rejects her. Coerced consent is not consent. So actually this falls under incapable of giving valid consent for reasons of both being unconscious and also deception (manipulation). It may not be violent rape. But it is repeated and forced unwanted sex. | /r/MGTOW | 24/04/19 07:51 PM |
| 2 | Women commentors out in force to defend a wife who is repeatedly raping her husbandRight. Because someone who's been raped is incapable of defending their rapist. Never happened before ever. | /r/MGTOW | 24/04/19 07:36 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Because there's nothing to gain from marriage for men, and everything to lose? And what kind of 'security' are we talking about exactly. I mean, let's be clear about it. If we are talking about making sure I don't leave her, then kids together will do a much better job of that than some piece of paper. But if we're talking about holding my feet over the metaphorical fire of financial ruin, then no thanks. I'll pass. Especially given that 70% of all divorces, 1st through 8th, are initiated by wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/19 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Women act more entitled than menI reject your premise entirely. The current click bait paradigm of 'media' is designed to reinforce existing views, not change them. That's exactly what it means to be in a 'filter bubble', which is how articles gain likes, views, and shares. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/19 09:18 PM |
| 6 | Women act more entitled than menYou only need to go on any online dating platform and read female profiles for 10 min, or browse the tens of thousands of comments from women in r/datingadvice and r/relationshipadvice to know that this is just not true. The vast majority of women actually 'do' feel entitled to a man with a laundry list of positive physical, material, and behavioral attributes. This is more or less self-evident if you're even remotely paying attention and being honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/19 09:15 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: Is calling a woman a 'slut' an insult?So which is it then? Should we celebrate sluts cheaters and baby killers, or should we call the behaviour out as being shameful? Cuz right now you appear to be defending it as natural in one breath and contradicting yourself in the next. And yes humans have been known for murdering healthy babies for a variety of reasons. Lack of resources and religious superstition being just two of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/19 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Is calling a woman a 'slut' an insult?And THIS is why men avoid sluts where commitment is concerned. I feel sorry for any 'high value mate' who is stupid enough to get locked down by a woman who rationalizes cheating, deception, and paternity fraud as just 'human sexuality'. Infanticide has a long evolutionary precedent too. Does that mean that you're down for some good old fashioned baby killing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/19 05:11 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Is calling a woman a 'slut' an insult?All women are human (whores) Because you're the authority on 'all' women. There definitely aren't any women on the planet who were built for and prefer monogamous sex with just one man who they love, respect, and have a deep bond and attachment to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/19 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Actually that would be sexual selection, not natural selection. Too bad the whores are the ones using artificial birth control or getting knocked up by 4 different absentee fathers. The classy women are the ones having actual families with their classy men who are happy to put a ring on it, instead of just pulling a hit and run. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/19 09:20 PM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.The “classy” girl is a hoe given the right guy and circumstances. This is the very thought process that epitomizes the difference you insist on denying. And the reason smart men avoid women who demonstrate it. I’ve never met a man of value and status because they all surely have the same misogynistic hang ups and Madonna whore complexes? Preferring to commit to a woman who respects herself and her body is not the same as speaking negativity of all women. And Madonna whore complex is natural inst… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/19 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.High sex drive and sexually generous women certainly can garner commitment from high value men. Hoes can not. I deal with, work with, and associate with 'actual' top achieving men every day. None of us want a cheap slut. Why would we? We have hot, young, sexually adventurous, and CLASSY women lining up for a shot at locking us down. The fact that you even think this is something that occurs tells me that you've never actually met a man of value and status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/19 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.No man on reddit is a Chad. That's called a 'No True Scottsman' fallacy. You might as well just say 'anyone who disagrees with me can't possibly be a decent human being'. Too bad your wrong as fuck. Does it feel good to larp online as a chad and be mean to those sluts that wouldn’t sleep with you? You know what does feel good? Knowing that no matter how hard a slut tries to convince herself that a high value man couldn't possibly find their behavior beneath him, I'm walking proof that they're wr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/19 08:56 PM |
| 1 | What works better to repel sex negative people- waiting or fucking on the first or second date?No. I gave you the definition of sex negative. You just insist on redefining it in order to excuse appalling behavior. My girlfriend has consensual sex with me regularly, and (omg) has even had a few boyfriends before me. But she is absolutely the definition of class, and not the least bit trashy. You know what she hasn't done though? Blown a different dude 3 times a week for the last 5 years. And if she had, I'd be disgusted by her and she wouldn't be with me. That's called having standards. I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/19 08:52 PM |
| 1 | What works better to repel sex negative people- waiting or fucking on the first or second date?Wanting to suck and fuck is literally “normal sexual expression”. You conveniently left out the 'every dick that gets thrown their way' part. Yeah, kinky sex is fun and normal, but if you've sucked 50 strange dicks in club bathrooms, you're trash and you'll never get within 3 feet of my dick (or any self respecting man for that matter). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/19 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Every woman is a thot on the inside, Maybe some are. Not every woman though. die mad about it like your ancestors. My ancestors were reproductively successful. That's why I'm here. Yes men worked so very hard to control women’s sexuality, and now they’re running scared that women have finally escaped the patriarchal shackles they built. Actually they built and invented everything your entitled pussy takes for granted. Show a little appreciation. Also, modern women haven't been shackled a fucking… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/19 05:36 PM |
| 1 | What works better to repel sex negative people- waiting or fucking on the first or second date?Actually no. Sex negativity was a term originally used in psychology to define an overwhelming sense of guilt, taboo, or disfunction around normal sexual expression that some people suffered from, often brought about by a devout religious fundamentalist upbringing or abusive parent. Feminists only recently tried to hijack and redefine it to mean 'Waaaaa. How dare you judge us for wanting to suck and fuck every cock that gets thrown out waaaaaay!'. But I couldn't give two fucks what feminists thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/19 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Nope it’ll be feminist sex positive Chad and his thot babies that will inherit the earth. Right, because Chad's gonna stick around and help raise those THOT babies from that ONS he just pumped and dumped. And everyone knows armies of fatherless children from four different baby daddys raised by single moms who no longer even have the welfare state to rely on because everyone has checked out of the system are the best way to create a healthy and productive utopian society. When every woman is a t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/19 03:53 PM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.It's thought of older people talking about sex as though they are a 20 something THOT who can go around fucking whichever dudes she wants that grosses me out. Your original comment claims that some women 'aren't interested in peddling their pussies and thus don't need to hold out for a high bidder'. Which seems to assume that at 52 the concept of even being able to peddle your pussy or hold out on sex is relevant to you, and it might have been 20 or 30 years ago, but the SMP at your age is an en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/19 02:34 PM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Exceptions do not prove the rule. Some women can beat the shit out of some men. But most men can beat the shit out of most women. Some men can get sex more easily than some women, but most women can get sex more easily than most men. This is all self-evident. Why are we even talking about this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/19 06:47 AM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Some of us aren't interested in peddling our pussies and thus don't need to hold out for a high bidder. I can earn my own money; I don't need to sell myself and as a result, I can fuck whom I please. I'm 52 now Eww | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/19 06:44 AM |
| 2 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.But yeah I half expected you to be in Toronto too but I don’t really know why. I honestly think there's a Toronto 'type'. Like there's some sort of intangible prevailing culture that we recognize in each other without actually knowing what it is that we're recognizing. I've had it happen before on here and also on vacation with random strangers and shit. Weird 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Yeah, I've already done that (posted proof) on this sub. Not gonna do it for you, because you seem like just the vindictive type who might try to figure out my real identity and do some petty or nefarious shit. Nice try tho. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 03:14 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Yeah, not a trad con bud. But definitely not into loose women who are in the hookup culture. Luckily she's not from a country where most of the women have been raised as degenerates, and I have 'very' good reason to believe her n-count is legit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 02:36 PM |
| 2 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Come back and tell me about it in your epiphany phase, or better still at 35 or 40. Not many men lining up for a post-wall THOT with a n=>100 count and a chip on her shoulder. Your strategy is the sexual equivalent of spending every penny your earn on tropical vacations and Gucci bags and saving nothing for retirement. r/whereareallthegoodmen | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 02:01 PM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Oooh. Someone call the burn unit. You do realize calling someone unattractive when they're objectively not accomplishes preicesely nothing yeah? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 01:35 PM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Woah that’s crazy, I live in Toronto. Not sure why, but somehow I half expected this. Maybe the French Chinese bit, as well as your perspective and writing style? But I already guessed it. My guess is that white men kinda got tired of sorority college girls and wanted a more stable wife so they paired up with Asian women who, like you said, have their shit together. I Also none of my business, but is that your situation too 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 01:33 PM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Unless they have a high n-count of high smv women... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 06:45 AM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Yeah I'm white. Not offended in the least. It's a fairly common pairing both where I used to live in Silicon Valley, and also now in Toronto. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 05:49 AM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Because most Asian women aren't into hookup culture and actually respect themselves and family values. That's my take anyway. And they're often smart and have their shit together. Pretty good deal if you ask me :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 04:56 AM |
| 3 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.You can if you wish (all the TRPs seem to say they take this line but the stench of desperation around them makes me doubt it) but generally men don't. Ah yes. The good old 'If you think this you must be a sub-human neck beard' card. Can't have a purple pill discussion without it getting thrown a good dozen times. Too bad it's a logical fallacy, immediately disqualifies you from the discussion, and (at least in my case) is verifiably false. All the sluttiest girls I've known seemed to end up mar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 04:54 AM |
| 2 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Asia. She was raised in a somewhat traditional marriage/ family minded home, but her parents are open minded enough to send her abroad for school and accept that she's dating a 10 year older foreign guy. Haha But they know I treat her well and am stable. I think that's what matters most to them :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 04:03 AM |
| 2 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.And most of those women have a fairly substantial past themselves. Women nowadays just don't hold off on sexual activity in the hopes of enlarging their pool of potential partner to those men who have double standards. It's not that they're holding off in hopes of enlarging their pool, it's that the massive relative disparity in access to sex tells a different story about a man with a high n-count and a woman with a high n-count. Point in case, I have a relatively high n-count even though I've n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 03:58 AM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Actually I just threw that out there. I don't have any data on it. If I were a betting man though I'd actually put my money on even promiscuous guys hooking up with promiscuity girls and then wifing up the less promiscuous ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 03:28 AM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.If it's so biological why do so many me n choose against doing it? Because for most it's not a choice? The majority of males who have access to a large number of attractive females will take that opportunity because it's an evolutionary unicorn holding a winning lottery ticket. It's what we're programmed to do (look up the Coolidge effect), it's just that most men don't have the choice. ALL people have access to sex if they lower their standards enough. Not true. Most men who seek casual hookups… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 03:20 AM |
| 3 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.This might sound fucked up but we should bring slut shaming back lmfao Slut shaming used to be a thing women did to other women as a form of sexual competition. Because they knew that most men preferred chaste women for relationships, so to call your rival a slut might actually deter the man you're eying from selecting your rival instead of you. Either that or we actually educate young women to value ourselves enough to save ourselves for someone we love and care about instead of giving it away … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 03:07 AM |
| 4 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.I don't have a study, but there's a book called the Evolution of Desire, that is the result of the most extensive collection of studies on human sexual selection and intersex power dynamics ever conducted. It involves tens of thousands of subjects across 37 cultures, and it more or less outlines (with proof) everything I'm saying here, explaining why men are almost universally repulsed by sexually indiscriminate as long term mates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 02:57 AM |
| 3 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Unfortunately I dont think that’ll be happening very soon because people like being degenerates and trashy. And unfortunately for people like us (a dying breed) we value monogamy, marriage, companionship, family, etc. THIS. Pretty much the reason I talk so negatively about hookup culture the way I do. I put the emphasis on women mostly because, while there are more men 'trying' to participate in the hookup game, a relatively small percentage of them will actually be successful. Virtually 100% of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 02:53 AM |
| 4 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Finding promiscuity unappealing is a non-issue. Passing judgement and making additional inferences on why that is without any context or evidence or additional research is irrational and infuriating. I gave the context and the evidence. It doesn't matter the reasoning for it, when women engage in large amounts of casual sex, it constitutes an abuse of power (or at least privilege) because of the sheer ease with which it can be obtained. This can be likened to the lack of impulse-control an obese… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 02:29 AM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.To some 10+ is high and that's not a massive number over the course of 2-3 years either. This speaks volumes to female sexual privilege. Only the top 20% of men have that many sexual partners in their entire lifetime. This is a statistical fact (I'll go find the white paper if I must). Only the top 5% of men will have that many partners in a year or two. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 02:17 AM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Yes she does. But I've never contributed to the hookup culture, and only have the count I do due to being a bit older and having dated a lot. I know she's telling the truth for a few reasons, one we courted a good while before being physical. Like 6 weeks at least. Two, she's had two ltrs before me, and not much time to rack up a body count in between. Her first ltr was the guy she lost her virginity to, so nothing before that. Fairly clear cut, as it were. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 02:12 AM |
| 2 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.I agree with you, believe it or not. I'm pro monogamy, commitment, marriage too, and it's why I talk about n-count the way I do. I've got a relatively high n-count myself, but mostly because I'm older and have dated a lot. Never because of hookups. Now I 'could' be having a lot of sex with random women, but I choose to give it to just one. As I think it should be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 02:07 AM |
| 2 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.While that may be true for you, it's safe to say that you're in the minority of women. Most women would rather have a highly desirable man with a past than an undesirable man with no options. I know this to be true from experience, and it's also backed up by the science around evolution and sexual selection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 02:03 AM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.If you hypothesised a random sample of high n count men, the only thing I would guess with any certainty about them is that they are all of decent-ish looks (model good looks aren't required) and like casual sex. I might even speculate that a lot of them would be fairly low on the socioeconomic scale. I'm inclined to agree with this. Except the 'likes casual sex part is not really needed, since that's pretty much a biological trueism and you might as well just say 'are men'. Women don't generall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 01:49 AM |
| 2 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.That's a fair point, and I'm inclined to agree with it mostly. However, that is only true for mid tier men with moderately high n-counts. In the case of a sufficiently high value man, think Rock star or CEO, a women will usually rather share a king than have the exclusivity of a pauper. And there's a reasonable case to be made that this is much more true of high value men than similarly high value women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 01:37 AM |
| 2 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.That's a fair point. But usually if a girl is out racking up massive body counts at 16 years old, you best believe that's the red flag at the tip of an iceberg of other issues that are leading to that behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 01:24 AM |
| 2 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Ah, thanks for the clarification. I've never actually been one to default to the analogy myself. I guess in that case it's fairly apt | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.And you don't think societal structure affects sexual dynamics? Really? It affects the outcome. Not the fundamental dynamic. The fundamental dynamic is by definition what exits in absence of contrived external influences. I have no idea what you mean. Did you mistype? Why would their ability to "abuse the power dynamic" make their count lower? Yes I mistyped. I meant lack of ability. Ha, no. You think even a beaten housewife in the middle ages had some kind of sex power, and you have no evidence… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.If you have power and you wield it wantonly or recklessly, then isn't that the definition of abuse? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 09:38 PM |
| 2 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.I think I agree with this, but it's a matter of degree and nature of the 'n's. If a high value woman who is intelligent, comes from a good upbringing, is mentally and emotionally sound, stunning, and going places (or already arrived), then an n-count of even 20 ish is understandable. Especially within the context of mostly dating and ltrs, because she's hot, but knows her worth and has been trying to get the best catch on the market, while also working it out along the way. If, however, she has … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 09:36 PM |
| 2 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.In fact I’d say it’s on you to act in good faith and that includes legitimately entertaining that others don’t necessarily agree with your premises rather than just dismissing them as “dishonest”. I'm dismissing the fact that you're dismissing my premises outright by fiat and assertion, rather than explaining why you reject the premise. You came here to be challenged, yes? That is certainly a valid way to challenge a position. Just dismissing a premise without actually refuting it is not a 'chal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.You in the minority my guy. Why are you high n count? Because I wanted to date a lot and find a high value woman who was worthy of my commitment. And because I can. That's the nature of human males. As you said, a man who can obtain a lot of sex is in the minority. So if he can do it, then he will. He's also biologically wired to seek out sexual variety for evolutionary reasons (non committed sex from a sexually available woman with good genes is an evolutionary lottery ticket). Does she know th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 07:55 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.When you mouthbreathers start posting actual science then we'll talk. Hey, there's an entire field of study dedicated to it. The fact that there is a fundamental differential in power dynamics between males and females in the sexual marketplace due to female sexual selection is the most basically understood tenet. You refuse to accept it. This is more like me saying 'Thr earth is round. It's a known fact and science has proven it.', and you saying 'Waaaaa. Fuck you mouth breather! The earth is f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 07:43 PM |
| 2 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.So for example some people just aren’t gonna think the whole “it’s harder for men therefore it’s more admirable” is convincing. Then they'd be denying objective reality. This is like saying 'some people aren't gonna think the whole 'men are physically stronger than women on average' is convincing. You can deny reality all you want, but then admit that's what you're doing and get out of the way so honest debaters can have a real discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 07:36 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.what? It’s not ancient times. The analogy was to availability of FOOD in ancient times, compared to the availability of sex for men in present times. Read more carefully please. It's really exhausting debating a person who is talking past your argument because they haven't actually understood it. is fully judgemental based on nothing but feelings. No, I actually based it on a lot of strong argumentation and logic. You just choose to ignore it. High n count people rarely feel this way because the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Yes, I am saying it's ok in this case. Because men and women have different access to sex. Think of it this way. In ancient times food was scarce, so chubbiness was seen as a sign of wealth and status. This is analogous to men and n-count. In modern times food is abundant, so obesity is seen as a sign of poor self-control and a lack of character. This is analogous for women and n-count. I can't say it more simply than that. If you don't get it, then I can't help you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 07:15 PM |
| 3 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Most of the highest n-count guys I've known have been the 'drop out party guy' type. I've known guys who were (IMO) complete fucking losers in many critical aspects of character who had +50 n's. Just because those are the high n-count guys you've met, doesn't mean they are the only kind of guys with high n-counts. What do you suppose Justin Timberlake's n-count is, or Tiger Woods for that matter? High value men come in lots of different packages, but if you're talking about the sexual marketplac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 07:13 PM |
| 7 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.<So a woman who has lots of sex is helping others get what they want at her own expense. Pretty sure sluts aren't just our pitty fucking sub-human males. They're fucking Chad. So they maybe be helping Chad get what he wants, but it's also not at their own expense. Men who have lots of sex are hurting others for selfish gain. So it is men who should be shamed for having lots of sex, not women. I actually agree with this. But it's still up to the women to not give it to them. If women didn't willi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.I'm tired of explaining this for the 15th time to your ignorant ass. I'm done. Go away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.No. Re-read the post. I've already explained it in detail there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 06:56 PM |
| 2 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.That's a lot of words to describe the lock and key analogy. Except that it's not the lock and key analogy? (Which posits 1 key for 1 lock.. or 1 man for 1 woman). But a very detailed elucidation of male female power differentials within the sexual marketplace. Men and women are different. There absolutely is a double standard. If you use "men and women are the same" in some situations but not in others, you're a hypocrite. I'm sorry, where have I said men and women are the same? And yes there's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 06:56 PM |
| 2 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.How is it not relevant? You said "women have always had the power", and I said they obviously did not. I said they had the power in sexual dynamics, not societal structure. Not my fault you don't know the difference. For you, a woman back in time could be expected to submit sexually to a man she was arranged to marry or be beaten... but she still has the power of the smp!!!!!!! It's just as bonkers. No. Because women wouldn't have high n-count back then due to their ability to abuse the power dy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 06:38 PM |
| 4 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.poof . women dont give a shit about what they say about our n count. we wont marry you anyway. And we don't need THOTs. There are still self-respecting women around. I've got one already. As for the men who don't/can't, they have porn, and soon VR haptic girlfriends and sex bots will strip THOTs of whatever power they thought they had. Then maybe we'll die off, but we sure as heck won't be mad about it. And all these THOTs will go with us.. but they'll utterly be alone because even CHAD will pre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 06:25 PM |
| 2 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.news flash: women have stopped valuing commitment from males altogether. soon, women will see males as nothing more than walking dicks to hump and dump. News flash. We're pretty much already there. males who have madonna / whore complex will soon find themselves alone and w/o a wife. because no sane woman would want his overpriced commitment. Overpriced how? By expecting a woman to have a little self-respect and not run wild fucking and sucking every dick that gets thrown her way? Ok. Well if ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 06:21 PM |
| 3 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Thx. Haha. I find it laughable and pathetic really. Seems like there are only three categories of responses they can muster, and all of them are logical fallacies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Too bad. Either keep your pants on, or settle for an ex-slut when you finally want to settle down. Too late. I got a high n-count and a beautiful long term gf with a <5 n-count herself. Looks like reality supports my premise more than your dread tactics ever could 🤷♂️ Thirsty men (like yourself) are the cause of the situation that you're bitching about in the first place. Not even remotely thirsty and not bitching. I'm describing behavioral economics for the purpose of debate. Not my fault you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 06:09 PM |
| 4 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.just because we women can get it easier doesnt mean lame males who cant get laid as easily get to decide what labels to put on us. Wrong. It's exactly men who decide a woman's value in the sexual marketplace, not women. Also.. high value men are even more likely to avoid a slutty woman for long term that so called 'lame males', because they have options. news flash: women dont lose value by sleeping with males. it is males who are of low value who say they do. Wrong. I've outlined why in the OP … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 06:06 PM |
| 2 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.The debate is that preferences vary, and the fact of the matter is women don't care as much about n count as men actually do. That's 'a' debate, it's not 'the' debate (at least not the one outlined in the OP). But even if it were, it only describes what is, and doesn't speak to the 'why' of it. I think the 'why' is what I'm trying to elucidate here. A slutty girl? Forget it, everyone and their uncle will know, and she will have VERY low RMV, and maybe SMV for guys who care about stds. If she's s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 05:58 PM |
| 2 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.This is black and white reasoning, and injects personal conjecture while not really addressing the premises outlined in the OP. There are positions between virgin and slut, or between n=0 and n=>20, 50, 80 etc. I have a high n-count, and of course I wouldn't have much in common with a virgin. But my gf is n <5 and that's good for me. If she were n>20, and mostly ONS and bathroom hookups, we wouldn't have much in common either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 05:48 PM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Then why are you here? Pick a lane and stay in it. Not very difficult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.It's basic evolution by sexual selection. It's not my job to educate you on basic science. It's your job to not be out of your depth while commenting on things you know nothing about. But.. if you really need more, there's a whole post about it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/bdi4p9/men_and_women_can_never_be_held_to_the_same/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 05:40 PM |
| 2 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Sure. It's still true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 05:37 PM |
| 2 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.I don't buy that. Domestic abuse wasn't always seen as unacceptable as it is now. And the belief that wives should submit to their husbands has been around for millennia. No way in hell have women always been in charge of who they have sex with. You're conflating fundamental power dynamics with externally imposed controls. Not the same thing and not relevant to the premise being discussed here. Or it could be that men are more into hookers than women are in general. This is a tautology and doesn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 05:35 PM |
| 2 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Lazy thinking at its finest 👏👏👏 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 05:26 PM |
| 9 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.It is fun. This is a forum for debating ideas about intersex dynamics and the sexual marketplace. That's what I'm doing 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 05:25 PM |
| 3 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.It seems plausible to me, regarding insecure low n-count people I'm a very high n-count man. Most high n-count men are high value by definition for the reason outlined above. I prefer low n-count women for long term, and I don't care about n-count for casual. Most high value (high n-count) men are the same for the reasons outlined above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Blah blah blah fuck off, no one cares. And yes, you did make it up. That's what I mean when I say "untrue bullshit." Don't claim this shit us "science" because it isn't. You fuckwads are as bad a flat-earthers. Fuck you people. Lol. Triggered much. I'd report this but I'd rather leave it up and let you humiliate yourself. You're doing a much better job than I ever could. Pro-tip. If you wanna claim science is made up, try having even a rudimentary understanding of it first yeah? It's called evol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 05:17 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.You’re debating with feels and trying to science it up to feel smarter about it. Just because you ignore or can't get your brain around the science doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You're not reasoning in an intellectually honest fashion and I'm done wasting my time with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be.Did you even read the post? You're just asserting whatever you think without even attempting to contend with the arguments presented. That is not how you debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 05:03 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Not end of discussion. For women it is trivially easy to get sex. For men it is exceedingly difficult and requires the man to be of reasonably high quality. Thus it requires MUCH more discipline for a man to keep his dick in his pants than it does for a woman to not hoe it up with every cock that throws itself her way (which is all day every day). It is a false equivalency, and the fact that most females can't (or won't) seem to understand this most basic fundamental truth is astounding. Inciden… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.There’s no biology or power whatever the fuck. Just a few envious men who are weirdly slutty/conservative. Living contradictions. Just because you don't understand the science, or are too emotionally ego invested to admit it, doesn't mean it's not true. Also, calling men who understand the scientific (and self-evident) basis 'envious' or 'weirdly slutty/ conservative', is both a No True Scottsman fallacy AND an Ad Hominem. So basically you disqualified yourself from the conversation. High value … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.If it's not woth a response, then don't respond. Nobody cares, especially me. Your hysterically triggered rambling non-arguments say otherwise. I know all the stupid shit you morons blab about "pair bonding" has no basis in fucking reality. Just because you're ignorant of the fundamental difference in power dynamics between males in the sexual marketplace, or eveb the most basic tenets of evolution by sexual selection doesn't mean we 'made it up'. Go read a book or two for a change yeah? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.That's all fair points. But the OP is not talking about long term compatibility on an intellectual level, it's talking about fundamental biologically instantiated attraction and repulsion cues. I don't think you'd find the chiseled ab rich dude repulsive on a sexual level, you just recognize that you would not be a good match long term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.it's not either that you are a trad con that unironically uses the "lock, key" analogy, that thinks any woman who had a few ONS in college "scientifically can not pair bond" and needs to be written off as a useless dirty whore OR you are 100% nonjudgmental, sex positive person that has to turn a blind all to literally any and all sex practices a woman might make and praise all forms of sex as this good 💯 THIS For a guy in his late 20's that has only had sex with 3-5 women to expect a long term p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.the promiscuous guys to end up dating the promiscuous girls rather than girls who haven't been with that many people. They just don't typically run in the same social circles or have the same relationship style. Precisely. And they cheat on each other and get divorced at similar rates too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 03:02 PM |
| 4 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.To discard someone based on a statistic is in his opinion "stupid". Ignoring red flags in a person's past behavior doesn't make a person smart or virtuous either. Statistics are just statistics, they don't predict your future. Aren't you the person who vehemently defended statistics as fact when they supported a different ideological position that you hold? To now discount them as invalid in general because they refute an ideological position that you hold is inconsistent at best and intellectua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 02:12 PM |
| 2 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.I use analogies because people on here seem to have a hard time understanding basic biology and fundamental power dynamics... I'm not saying 'when' it's easy for a woman to obtain sex. I'm saying it is. Period. It only becomes remotely difficult for a woman when she is exceptionally low value. On the flip side, a man's position is default difficult to obtain sex, and it only becomes easy when he's exceptionally high value. Ergo, when a woman gives up sex easily, it lowers her intrinsic value (li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 01:50 PM |
| 6 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.This rambling, triggered, diatribe is so rife with ad hominem, straw man, no true Scottsman and other fallacies that's its not even worth a response. You clearly don't understand the fundamental psychological and biological differences between the male/ female sexual power dynamic. If even knew the slightest thing about basic biology, then you wouldn't dare make this pseudo-argument in public. r/oof | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.One is a charicature. The other an observation. Your point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 01:35 PM |
| 0 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.This logic presupposes that men and women are coequal, in particular when it comes to sexual power dynamics, and I reject that premise as self-evidently false. Even a below average woman can go out and get sex from a man literally whenever she feels like it. A man can not.. unless he has a very high smv/ rmv. To analogize, let's use the example of a diamond (female sexual access) and a diamond buyer (male sexual advances). If the diamond were easily obtainable and most any person could afford on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 06:07 AM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Ah, my bad. I misread that as a non-response to my response. There is a tendency for many commenters on here to attack and belittle a poster as a (invalid) form of rebuttal, rather than engaging with the actual content of the post. I thought this was another one of those. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 05:47 AM |
| 2 | What would you consider to be a 'high' ncount? or the average experienceAs a male, I'd say >20 by any age is the deal breaker for me. Ideally it would be <10 and closer to 5 ish, within the context of dating/ relationship. Bathroom hookups with randos is 100% pass at any time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 05:44 AM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Do any of you come here to actually debate ideas, or is slinging ad hominems at the person who holds ideas all you are capable of? Or more likely, do you honestly not know the difference... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 05:30 AM |
| 2 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.If a dude is down to bang randos but won't touch them for an ltr, you bet I'm going to shame his hypocritical ass. This is pretty much all men. You clearly don't understand make biology/ psychology. Incidentally, why do you think porn is so successful and prolific? Your comparison makes little sense. It makes perfect sense.. to people who understand evolution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 04:03 AM |
| 2 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Yeesh, here we go... Why do you feel the need to "scientifically" prove it? I don't. I was debunking an attempt to redefine the natural male preference as a pejorative. You either don't like them because You haven't had as much sex Wrong. You have a high regard to sex and conduct yourself in the same manner Correct You think they are going to cheat Statistically far more likely. The thought of her having dick that wasn't yours makes you sick. Wrong again. You have a preconceived view of what wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 03:55 AM |
| 4 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Same way as most I guess? I got turned onto TRP due to some of my own personal collisions with reality that didn't seem to map onto what I'd been conditioned to accept as true. Then went down the rabbit hole of realizing that much of our current cultural paradigm and legal system is slanted toward the feminine imperative whilst we're incessantly beaten over the head with a narrative to the reverse. But then realized that, while mostly true, the TRP subculture tends toward attracting an unhealthy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 03:28 AM |
| 2 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Kk then don't get upset when people address the premise that's literally in your title. Pointing out that insecurity has always been seen as unattractive as some form of rebuttal, when the fact that it has always been that way is the entire point of the OP, is not actually addressing the premise, but instead talking past it (as I already pointed out). Yeah, it kind of is since you were too busy being passive aggressive with another user to get across your main point. I was refuting the other pos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 03:01 AM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Precisely. Debunking a false premise by analogy in a debate forum is not being 'affected'. Hysterically hurling ad hominems and character attacks in the comments is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 02:50 AM |
| 4 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Calling out your lack of anything resembling an actual argument, is not itself a playground argument. Maybe if you'd try actually debating ideas, instead of attacking the people who hold the ideas, then you'd find you get actual responses. Who knew? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 02:48 AM |
| 3 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Oh the irony of using typical female shame tactics in place of intellectual debate in a thread that literally spells out why female shame tactics don't work r/oof EDIT: Yeah high value men chase sluts.. to fuck. They aren't lining up to wife them now are they? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 02:45 AM |
| 5 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Still don't have anything of value to contribute I see. I know.. actually debating ideas would require using your brain, and that's hard 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 02:04 AM |
| 3 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Nice charicature there. You should try actually debating in a debate forum sometime, instead of literally proving my last point with more asinine hysterics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 01:57 AM |
| 4 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.If the amount of hysterical triggered females in the comments every time we debunk a feminist myth, assert our preferences for chaste women, or talk about how we reject the privileged western feminine paradigm is any indicator... Pretty sure a bunch of you care A LOT. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 01:47 AM |
| 2 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Then the subject of your OP should be "Just as it is natural for men to dislike high n for relationships it is natural for women to avoid insecurity" or something along those lines. The title of my OP is exactly as I intended it, thx. Instead you decided to create this tit for tat with another user for calling people like you sex negative by making up something that's not a thing. No, I rebutted their attempt to redefine natural male preferences as 'sex negative' by exposing it as absurd through… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 12:37 AM |
| 3 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.You missed the point entirely. These attraction and repulsion cues are evolutionarily instantiated over hundreds of thousands of years. In other words, that's the very definition of 'always has been', even though you never gave and cause for your assertion. So too is it for males preferring chaste females for commitment. And it is also true that, while insecurity is universally seen as unattractive, it is much more so in males than in females. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/19 12:01 AM |
| 8 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.No; it's like "shaming women for preferring sexually discriminate women as being sex-negative" All these "gender swaps" where "some things are changed" are weird. The "male equivalent" of a "female slut" is not a "male virgin" it's a "male slut" This literally makes no sense. Men and women? Yeah guess what.. they're not exactly the same as each other. Their biology is different, and so is their psychology. Which means so are their preferences in a mate. This is backed up by reams of scientific d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 11:07 PM |
| 3 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.I literally have no idea what you're saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.I'm not letting it affect me in the least. I'm fine with where I stand on things. But this is the Purple Pill debate sub after all. And the male preference for sexually inexperienced women in long term relationships, as well as the female disdain for emotionally insecure men, are both tropes of TRP are they not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 10:24 PM |
| 21 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Slut logic if I've ever heard it. Unfortunately your shame tactics are not backed up by science. Go read The Evolution of Desire and also the paper from the Institute for Family Studies on the correlation between female lifetime casual sex partners and divorce rates, then come back and try to honestly argue that an intelligent and high value man should want commit to a woman whose had a boatload of prior 'good dick'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.It's redefining what sex negativity means to suit an agenda. That's all. And it 'would' be tantamount to calling women 'insecurity negative' for being turned off by insecure men, at least at a basic psychological level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 10:10 PM |
| 11 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.What's literally what it means? Don't slut shame? I'm sorry, no. Feminists just hijacked it from an earlier psychological definition that had to do with being liberated from crushing guilt and shame around natural human sexuality, usually stemming from psychological harm caused by religious fundamentalism in childhood. But just because feminists want to redefine it as 'Don't judge us because we want to fuck as many strange dicks as is humanly possible' doesn't make it so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 10:08 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.That it's silly to call men's instinctual preferences for sexually discriminate woman as long term mates 'sex negative' ? Because it's not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 10:02 PM |
| 6 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Good point. Yes, sexual indiscriminacy is seen as a positive in woman for casual sex. It's seen as a negative for commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.'Sex negative' is used as a pejorative in the referenced post. That's a form of shaming. But either way you're splitting hairs and missing the entire point of the post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 09:59 PM |
| 12 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.*Some women maintain a high value on their sexuality. Some give it away quite easily for almost nothing. *Some women prefer not to have sex without commitment, some just wanna get fucked by lots of different hot dicks. *And some are relationship material and some are not. If a woman has had 10 partners within the context of a committed relationship, that's one thing. If she's had 10 partners in 2 months in mostly club bathrooms, that's another. In otherwords, go ahead and have all the cheap hook… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 09:54 PM |
| 3 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Both things are true. Men are instinctually inclined to prefer chaste women for commitment and loose women for cheap sex, and women almost universally prefer self-assured and emotionally stable men, and are repulsed by emotionally unstable and insecure men. What's stupid is to shame either men or women for having those biologically instantiated preferences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 09:48 PM |
| 9 | Shaming men for preferring sexually discriminate women as being 'sex negative' is like shaming women for preferring self-assured men as being 'insecurity negative'.Common. This is an absurd straw man charicature of my stated position in the OP. If you're gonna take part in an forum for debate, at least have enough respect for your own mental faculties to not disqualify yourself outright with illegal moves and logical fallacies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 09:43 PM |
| 4 | What works better to repel sex negative people- waiting or fucking on the first or second date?Easy sex with lots of different dudes and no attachment does. It's actually kinda the definition of the word slut 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 01:42 PM |
| 5 | What works better to repel sex negative people- waiting or fucking on the first or second date?Sex negative and slut negative are not the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 01:27 PM |
| 2 | (Discussion) What CAN women bring to the table?Things I love about my girlfriend: 1.) She's down to earth, reasonable, and understanding. Doesn't take herself, others, or life too seriously. She sets realistic expectations and goals for herself and what she wants out of life, and also our relationship. 2.) She is grounded and has her emotions and psychology in check. Whenever we have a disagreement, we both come at it from a mature perspective of trying to resolve it with a win/ win compromise, or by trying understand the other person's pers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/19 12:26 AM |
| 1 | Lawyers share their worst stories about spouses effing each other over in a divorceGeez dude. Seek help.. | /r/MGTOW | 13/04/19 10:33 PM |
| 2 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyI'm talking about equal respect for all though. That's what I'm advocating for. Equal rights AND responsibilities for both sexes.. and also no antiquated privileges from a past paradigm. What I see happening in the western world though is not that. It's more akin to contrived 'equity initiatives', put in place to try and force equal outcomes across genders, regardless of personal interest or level of input. Or online outrage and shame campaigns being launched with the latent goal of instantiatin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/19 04:42 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: If you had the chance to be reborn as a woman, would you do it?No true Scottsman fallacy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/19 11:44 PM |
| 5 | Q4Men: If you had the chance to be reborn as a woman, would you do it?Can I be a hot woman? Then maybe. Waaaay too many free passes and easy benefits to be reaped not to take that ticket. And plus, I could be a hot lesbian and still fuck hot women while avoiding pregnancies and all that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/19 11:39 PM |
| 2 | Lawyers share their worst stories about spouses effing each other over in a divorceYeah. That one is so brutal it's hard not to think it's an elaborate fiction for upvotes. But what's worse is.. I actually believe it. | /r/MGTOW | 12/04/19 09:49 PM |
| 4 | What do you guys think of the unwritten "women and children first" rule for sinking ships and other emergencies?Agreed. And I think kids need their moms a little more than dad's for evolutionary biological reasons, so I'd say moms and kids. But if you single, best believe it's every man and woman for themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/19 04:27 PM |
| 2 | Those of you in a relationship, who is better looking: you or your partner?Fair enough. I find her quite beautiful. And she's a pro model who works for print for top brands (Levi's, Mackage, Daniel Wellington etc). Could be a personal taste thing. But thanks for the compliment just the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/19 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Those of you in a relationship, who is better looking: you or your partner?Interesting. What makes you say that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/19 02:25 PM |
| 1 | What are some red flags that YOU carry?Thank you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/19 02:12 PM |
| 2 | Those of you in a relationship, who is better looking: you or your partner?SMV I think we're pretty evenly matched. https://m.imgur.com/a/uXr3ijs RMV too because her youth/ gender and my career/ status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/19 07:13 AM |
| 1 | Those of you in a relationship, who is better looking: you or your partner?Good on you bro! Like you were legit blackpilled on the forums and all that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/19 07:05 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Increased partner count for a woman doesn't damage her chances of finding a man who loves herWhat does that have to do with weather or not a man cares about the number of sex partners a woman has had? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/19 03:24 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Increased partner count for a woman doesn't damage her chances of finding a man who loves herThat's exactly my point though. Knowing certain details about a person impacts your perception of them, which will in turn affect whether or not your fall in love or continue in love. This is especially true for characteristics that we react to on a deeply biological level. So even if a man was falling in love with a woman, or already in love with her, finding out that she used to be a porn star, or brothel worker, or had a foursome with three dudes while on vacation in Europe one time, will abs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/19 12:07 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Increased partner count for a woman doesn't damage her chances of finding a man who loves herI'm pretty sure I responded to several of your points directly. If I somehow missed what you're trying to say, why not elucidate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 11:14 PM |
| 1 | What are some red flags that YOU carry?I love this post. Great balance to the 'What Makes You the Prize' one. My red flags: Divorced and have two kids from that relationship. I'm very present and active in their lives and support them financially at a rate above what would have been legally mandated (even in the top bracket). My family background isn't great. I come from a single mother on welfare and an absantee father. I've worked very hard to pay my own way through college and develop my career, have taken counseling to work thr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 11:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Increased partner count for a woman doesn't damage her chances of finding a man who loves herWhile this is true, I would argue that it's not to the same degree. A man's love for his wife might begin to wane if she let's herself go severely, and he no longer feels any physical attraction for her, or if she stops having sex with him and they end up with a dead bedroom. But a woman will stop loving her man if he does either of those things 'plus' a myriad of other things that he is expected to live up to, such as provide financially, emotionally, romantically, experientially etc. Like ever… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 10:58 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Increased partner count for a woman doesn't damage her chances of finding a man who loves herSo you love your wife differently to how you love your children. Yet you’re also capable of loving both your wife and children unconditionally. On the other hand your wife somehow is only capable of loving the kids unconditionally, and when it comes to you it’s not really proper love Yes, precisely. If the kids misbehave, or aren't living up to her expectations, a mother won't simply stop loving her kids or leave. But a woman's love for a man is conditional on the fact that he continues to provi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 10:52 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Increased partner count for a woman doesn't damage her chances of finding a man who loves herSure she might not be as attached to him or respect him, but he loves her. High value men don't commit to sluts precisely because she can't be attached or appropriately respect him in the relationship. If he doesn't see her as worthy of commitment, then he surely doesn't love her in any idealistic way. Also, with more experience and more partners, women understand what men like more. If she's had a 'couple' ltrs beforehand, sure. If she's racked up a bodycount of ONS in the hundreds, no way. All… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 10:45 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Increased partner count for a woman doesn't damage her chances of finding a man who loves herWhether a woman ever loves a man like she capable of is another question entirely, however her capacity for unconditional love is not debatable. Especially towards their children, we can argue that women are even MORE capable of unconditional love then men. This misses the point entirely though. TRP doesn't say women are incapable of unconditional love, period. It says that a woman's 'love of a man' is conditional. I would go so far as to say that the love of a man for a woman can never be compa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 10:28 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Increased partner count for a woman doesn't damage her chances of finding a man who loves herBut men can still fall in love with sluts. Maybe. But it's 'far' less likely. Men have a built in mechanism that actually causes them to be repulsed at the thought of committing to a loose woman, the same way women have a built in mechanism that causes them to feel contempt and loose attraction for a weak or insecure man. And it's kind of hard to fall in love with a person that you only see as a quick and easy fuck. It doesn't actually mean men commit less to 'sluts' or love them any less. Objec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 10:22 PM |
| 3 | So what makes you a catch OR interesting??How do you manage to turn every comment, even the ones that should be fun and interesting, into snarky bitterness? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 09:56 PM |
| 1 | So what makes you a catch OR interesting??Looks: 36 [m], 5'11, 175 lbs, 11-12% body fat, built but not jacked, been told I'm 'classically handsome' and get compared to Paul Rudd, Bradley Cooper, and Nikolaj Coster-Waldau. Education/ Career: Not rich but earn over 150k. Work in tech and teach in a reputable university part time. Have significant equity in a growing tech startup. Hobbies/ Interests: Race motorcycles, teach and train in kickboxing and Krav Maga, pretty good cook. Relationship: Pretty good a getting a laugh, thoughtful and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 09:51 PM |
| 0 | (Discussion) Something I've noticed about men's preferences1000% THIS. I was with a girl who had 2 guys before me. She was the best lay I've ever had. It helped that we had similar tastes and thresholds for kink and what turns us on. But it's mostly because we were able to learned what each other likes and have get really skilled at it. A woman who only hooks up with rando dudes one or two times can't do that. Also, she probably will have picked up weird fetishes or 'tricks' from all the other dudes she's fucked that I would then have to help her unlear… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 08:46 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).I don't think you understand. No amount of hot pussy would ever be worth taking on a rent-seeking parasite to me. Because hot women are a dime a dozen, and I can go out and get five more tomorrow if I want. But true character in a woman, now that's valuable. Could my girlfriend go out a pick up another man to dote on her every whim and give her a free ride financially? You bet she could. But the fact that she chooses not to is what makes her worthy of my commitment. If your 'rich' husband hasn't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 05:43 AM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).She's a self-respecting quality woman. What would a gold digger like you know about it anyway? You'll never get a dime from a man one fifth my caliber, and that's probably why you're on here advocating for other women with an smv you can only dream of to milk it in a way that you never could✌️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 04:34 AM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Why is it 'model looks' = 'my financial support' in your worldview? How do you know I don't look as good as her? How do you know I'm not in exceptional shape? How do you know I'm not caring, funny, and capable? How do you know I don't take care of her needs in the bedroom? How do you know I don't give her everything she could ever need or want in a man (Except a free ride) ? You don't. And you're a gold digging entitled bottom feeder for it. I don't give a shit what you think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 02:57 AM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).What does that even mean? I give her everything she wants in a partner too. Except a free ride. Just say what you want to say. In your world, 'Having a vagina = I get a free ride' (despite having a job and no kids)👏👏👏 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 02:05 AM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Men and women are not and will never be the same! We may not be the same biologically, but we damn sure are in terms of opportunity and the workforce. You got a young girl naive enough to shack with you...while shes still doing 50/50..and no marriage? She's getting a shit deal as a woman. So contributing equally while living under my roof is a shit deal 'as a woman'. Does her vagina grant her some sort of special right to a free ride according to you? You are just punishing women for being who t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 01:56 AM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Evidently 90% of the English language is weasel words to you. Ok let me help.. Uh, me no MGTOW. Me only thunk wamens got too manies thingies an mens shud not give more thingies. Better? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 12:09 AM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Guys who appear to be very bitter with the opposite sex I'm not bitter or angry at the opposite sex per se. I mean I love my gf and treat her well. I just think society in its current incarnation is unfair and cruel to A LOT of men. And a lot of women play their part in it for largely opportunistic reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).This is r/purplepilldebate and just because I follow MGTOW content or even post doesn't mean I'm a monk. Its not a binary all or nothing position. It's a spectrum. And it sounds like you could use a little nuance in your discourse too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 11:24 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Why would I? And why would that be convenient in any way? You make no sense dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 11:11 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).I'm not top tier in looks, but I'm above average; I work out a lot and am pretty built and lean. I know I'm a skilled lover and can make her cum in multiples every time. I'm not short. I'm not an alpha bro, but I have alpha traits (competence, confidence, assertiveness, strength, an unflinching personal code, discipline, and I'm pretty thoughtful and considerate, though not a pushover simp). I think the package is more than just money or looks tbh. And sure she wouldn't stick around if I was a d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 11:01 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).I'm actually not so sure about that. I bring a lot of other things to the table, and I know it. And because I know it, she knows it. And more importantly.. other women know it too. What's more, she's always been hard working and earned her own money since I've know her, and she's on a path where finances are never really going to be an issue for her. If anything I'll probably end up earning less than her eventually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 10:31 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Not really. We've been together almost 3 years and our expenditure on the relationship is pretty much at par. Don't you think an hb9 like her would trade a stingy guy like me in for a rich sugar daddy if that's what she was after? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).I'm not rich but I earn well enough. But I've made it clear that if we do really join up, we'll have separate finances. Our own bank accounts, and over and above a mutual contribution to the relationship, we each get to spend and do whatever we want with whatever's left over. In short, we both put in the same $$$ to the relationship and keep what's left from our own earnings. Same goes if she outearns me one day (which she might cuz she's in finance). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).I would automatically think someone calling themselves an oxy moron is in fact just a moron. This is why RP criticizes women and their hamsters. But then do the same thing, aka hypocritical, and makes OP look like an idiot. Calling yourself MTOW and not meeting the bare minimum definition of it and then posting what OP posted makes him look like a weasel. Lol dude. Why you got such a hate on? I never claimed I'm MGTOW or swearing off relationships altogether. I claimed that I reject traditional … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Why not? Could be a particular Hobby horse considering I lived in the snake pit of SJW nonsense for 6+ years, and now live in the second most SJW snakepit. But I mean, if it makes you feel better to just write me off as some basement dwelling neckbeard who doesn't have his shit together, you do you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).For what shit? Holding her to the same standards she expects of me? Treating her like a competent adult? Yeah, she's a real idiot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Who said anything about a partner treating them better than they are willing to do in return? I'm talking about actual relationship equality. Like an actual team? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 09:55 PM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Lol. I don't. I won't. And guess what.. women still want to fuck and date me. Who knew? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 07:55 PM |
| 8 | CMV: A woman lowering her standards doesn't get her a relationship> Lowering your standards as a woman only means one thing, you get a lower quality man. This doesn't improve your chances of what type of relationship you get, only the type of man you get. I disagree with this entirely. Standards are mostly arbitrary and at the same time relative. Women in a certain city, country, or culture might have completely different standards, both with regards to specific qualities they are looking for, and also 'level' of standard they will accept. So with that in mi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).If they didn't count 'outliers' that would only bias the findings in favor of prevailing perception, not balance it. Also, the article itself actually states the methodology as merely 'not including those who did not answer the question, or provided an answer that was different than the available options'. Thus, it was merely a survey question with a multiple choice response (a problem, not much of a problem, or not a problem). No articulation required. They even posted the actual questionnaire … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 04:49 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).I explained how the statistics are about perception and not actual discrimination. I don't need another study to show the inherent bias in the study you presented. If you can't see that, that's not my fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 04:30 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Not a call to action per se. More like a call to awareness, which is the essence of TRP (and the actual point of the post). Most men are still woefully oblivious to the current state of things, however, and unless the become aware the market can not be self-correcting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 03:50 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).My statistics showed women are reporting discrimination at a higher rate than men. Narratives aside, I think that it demonstrates women are perceiving more discrimination then men are. And I wouldn't be surprised if that we're entirely true considering men like yoj would rather just shut down / deny any form of female inequality because it makes them uncomfortable. I'm not shutting it down because it makes me uncomfortable, I'm shutting it down because there is no evidence. Perception and fact a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 03:41 PM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Straw man argument. I'm talking about socially enforced financial burdens and expectations. This is pretty clearly laid out in the OP. How many situations do you see where women pay for the whole date or have live in boyfriends who don't pay for anything despite earning their own money? Not many. That's the vagina exemption, and to deny it is self-evidently intellectually dishonest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 03:34 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).I agree. No good reason. But again, it's self-correcting. If they don't get any benefit from it - they'll stop. Unless they're complete idiots that is Whiiiich is basically the point of the OP. I mean it's in the title. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 03:28 PM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Time will tell how adamant you are about keeping this part actually equal. Done it before. I can do it again. If not she better start making sure you’re upping your financial contribution. She should be just as anal about “fairness” as you. Absolutely. I got not problem pulling my weight in a relationship. And I'd be happy to be a full time stay at home dad if she wants to be the sole bread winner and pay for nice things too. I'm sure she'd be happy to work 60-70 hour weeks to pay for my motorcy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 03:26 PM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Honestly, this post is pretty flawed solely because some of these aren't "female privilege" and have existed for awhile, They have existed for a while, sure. But due to evolutionary reasons, and past economic reasons. The economy has changes, and so should the privileges and expectations. That's the entire point of the OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 02:25 PM |
| 0 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Never said I want her to take my last name. I'd do my share of the house work and child rearing (if she's working and contributing); And if she's not working and expects to be supported, best believe she'd be doing a disproportionate share of the housework and child rearing. That's the age old arrangement that's been flipped. In fact, I even included stay at home mothers as being the one exception in the Op so... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 02:23 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).If more people treated one another as they wanted to be treated, we'd all be better off. I agree. That's why I'm advocating for equality here. but it appears most are seeking mostly to validate their own sexism. Unfortunate Uh.. how does advocating for equality in relationships and gender dynamics constitute sexism. I never said anything about oppressing or hating anyone. I said enough with all the privilege that 'some' women demand (and receive). I'm afraid the gulf will only widen Yup, so let'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 02:10 PM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).You're absolutely right... Except it is now a free and heavily lopsided market. The sexual market has changed MASSIVELY, and these behaviors and expectations are vestiges of a time long passed. Low smv men used to pay for everything for women because women still largely gained real benefit from it and appreciated it, and it 'would' help them meet women and get laid. When women work and earn on par with men, how many low smv men do you think are getting laid by buying drinks or paying for dinner?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 02:04 PM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).The are what some men offer because many (most?) women expect or demand to receive it. Do you still think these men would 'willing' offer if women didn't feel entitled to it? Do you think women would feel entitled to it if men did not continue to offer it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).I agree. But many women in modern society have rejected that dynamic, and instead expect to receive the financial advantage only, without the commitment.. or without offering anything in return really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 01:30 PM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).I don't see you pulling it statistics supporting your argument. You're the one who claimed you had statistics, not me. What's there to say both groups are not both equally susceptible to the "woe is me" victim card, thereby still proving a significant signal that women are more disadvantaged at work than you have seen in your experience. Because outside the TRP and MRA subcultures, and in particular in the tech industry, that's literally unheard of? Are you seriously suggesting that public schoo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 04:45 AM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).🤔 This is honestly very surprising to me. Maybe it's a difference between Toronto agencies and the New York scene? My gf and her friends live here but walk for NYFW and also Paris and Milan too, but they just come in for those shows. Welp, learning something new anyway. Ha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 04:18 AM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).your idea of the industry having this sort of purity is simply not true for current models 24 and under. Are we talking about the same fashion modeling industry? I am talking about high fashion runway shows and brand name ad campaigns. I have intimate knowledge of the contracts of several of the top agencies and they do not permit outside work if you are signed with them. And 'most' of the girls are 24 and under, my girlfriend included, so that's sorta a moot point. Maybe your friends are not si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 03:59 AM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).I don't think this is true. I know a LOT of pro runway models, and it's a very separate space. Many of them 'use' insta, and post personal shots and images from their shows. But any real fashion model is signed with an agency and prohibited from doing outside work. Unless maybe you're taking about celebrities like Bella Hadid or some of the Victoria's secret girls? But Insta thots are literally just hot randos who post a bunch of half naked pics, then ask to be paid for influencer shoutouts, or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 03:43 AM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).I've managed to deal with it fairly well though. Mostly I just carve out time for myself and my bros, and do some nights out on the town, maintain casual acquaintances with attractive female friends, or engage in inocuous interactions with females that still trigger attraction cues in them while my girl is present, and then walk away. Nothing unethical or dishonest, but enough to let her know she's got a high value man with options. So far I'm pretty sure she's still aware I have claws, despite … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 03:37 AM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).What statistics? This data is about reported perception of discrimination and not actual discrimination. Tech people are mostly young and in very liberal regions. Which basically means the were brought up and educated on a veritable feast of victimhood and discrimination narratives, and therefore, they are pretty much trained to see discrimination everywhere they look. There also far more men in tech, due mostly to self-selection processes. And since women have been educated to view themselves a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 03:33 AM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Like I said. I was in Silicon Valley for 6 years and worked for 3 of the major companies. West coast (SF and Seattle especially) are heavily biased in favor of women. Which is 'most' tech in the US, or at least the big players. And so is Toronto where I am now. You're on the east coast of US, where there's a lot of old money and finance, and maybe that has something to do with your experience. But your experience is not the normative one for women in tech over the last 5-10 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 03:19 AM |
| 3 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).That's the whole purpose of plate theory. A man without options is a slave to his gf/ wife.. and likely to get cheated on or dumped for an upgrade too. A man who knows he has options isn't afraid to set boundaries, and then follow through when they are crossed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 03:14 AM |
| 3 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Never pull a gun if you're not ready to shoot. Power dynamics 101. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 02:39 AM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).I work in software and was in Silicon Valley for 6 years. If there is discrimination in tech in 2019, at least in the big west coast companies.. it's against men. Google even just recently faced a class action law suit for alleged wage discrimination against their female software engineers. When they did a 3rd party audit they 'did' actually uncover broad scale gendered wage discrimination at all levels.. against men. And they ended up paying out nearly 10 million in salary increases to men in o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 02:37 AM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Maybe? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 02:17 AM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Sexual harrassment, maybe. Discrimination? Fuuuuck no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 01:20 AM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Yes. She works in finance and thinks spending tens of thousands of dollars on a rock for your finger is insane. If I do propose I'll probably get something, but make it more personal and symbolic than the arbitrary 3 months of your salary benchmark that gets thrown around. The point is that it's not externally imposed by society or her due to some sort of traditional or misguided expectation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 12:45 AM |
| 2 | To Men Who Think Women are "causing the decline", how SHOULD they select for partners?I think no woman should hook up or put out on the first date. I think a self-respecting women should want to get to know a guy first and make sure he meets her standards, while also not holding unreasonable or unrealistic standards, and certainly not double standards by making one guy wait and pay for 5 dates, while another gets bathroom sex within 30 minutes of meeting him. Men should also hold those women (and themselves) to the same standard of conduct. Basically get rid of Tinder and hookup … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 12:13 AM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Oh, I just meant 'hell, let them pay for you sometimes.' haha 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 12:01 AM |
| 0 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).> I don’t understand. You bash Instagram models but your girlfriend is a model... Very different thing. My girlfriend is in finance and has a real career and models for actual fashion brands in New York and Milan because it's what she likes to do (runway models don't get paid much). Professional instagram girls stand around taking selfies or getting other people to take their photos, then profit off of influencer promotions or soliciting 'gifts' from their followers. It takes little to no skill,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 11:56 PM |
| 3 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).She lives where I do in Canada, she just models in New York. But I get that was joke | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 11:46 PM |
| 0 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).A prenup should go both ways. If she earns more than me, and we split the bills, and we go pretty even on our entertainment etc, then I see no problem with that. I don't expect to gain extra financial benefit from a union with a woman, and neither should she. We both pay our own ways, and split the bill if and when kids come into the picture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 11:43 PM |
| 3 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Congratulations. That read like I was back in 3rd grade. Are you sure you don't have a crush on me or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Does your gf pay for everything the two of you do together? No. We went dutch on the first date. Now I pay sometimes, and she pays other times. Sometimes we go dutch. We don't calculate everything, but it's about even (as it should be for two adults who both have and education and a job). but don’t pay hot servers you mean like don’t tip them? I guess I should have clarified that. Sure, tip them... as mush as any other server, male or female, hot or not. Just don't fawn over them and give them 2… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 11:38 PM |
| 4 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Read it how you want. It's about holding 'some' women accountable for demonstrably reprehensible behavior and entitled expectations. Not all of them. But the fact that you can only attack the 'tone' of my observations, and not the veracity of the observations themselves, says everything that anyone needs to know about who's actually correct here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 11:36 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).lol. Triggered much? You do realize that mocking a man with an exceptonal girlfriend for not having one actually accomplishes nothing right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 11:33 PM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Doubt it. You'd probably have a great time, and be messaging me to hang out again when didn't follow up after a couple days :p You do realize that it is possible to have disdain for one subset of behaviors, even if it is almost exclusive to one sex, whilst also having appreciation and respect for another subset of behaviors present in that same demographic? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Nope. I'm good with money. Why do YOU expect NOT to pay for yourself and contribute equally in a relationship? And.. because it 'is' a test of character for maaaany women these days. If I ask to split the bill on a first date and get and never hear from her again, I consider that a bullet dodged. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 10:54 PM |
| 6 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).And I'm not buying dinner for some entitled princess. So we good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 10:50 PM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).No I didn't. I just liked it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 10:49 PM |
| 4 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Fair point. My thinking is more along the lines of expecting a partner to be a partner in a relationship. In other words an equal contributor. And also to not expect some sort of privileged position within the relationship for no good reason. To your point about pricing out potentially good matches too early, I'm not advocating coming out of the gate angrily swinging on a first date or anything. I'm just talking about setting reasonable standards. Gainfully employed women who would 'nope' a man … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 10:48 PM |
| 4 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Dude. Why are you so angry? You can think whatever the fuck you want. It has worked out great for me so far, and my girlfriend doesn't seem to think she's being manipulated one bit. Because that's not my aim. In fact, I think she's quite pleased with everything. And besides.. I really don't see how expecting her to contribute equally in a partnership is weasel fuckery anyway (I'm literally laughing while typing this). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 10:35 PM |
| 3 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Oh. Lol. No, I'm not 'ragey' as all that. But massive inequities have definitely opened up in society. Women are out-enrolling and out-performing men in University, and employed and earning increasingly on par with men; Yet many women still seem to expect the niceties of a time when they were mostly dependent on men. The use of technology to exploit a massive power differential in the sexual sphere for both financial and personal gain is quite prevailent too. I'm just saying that men enabling an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 10:30 PM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Explain? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 10:22 PM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Not sure how it doesn't apply to me. If we get married there'll be a prenup, and no engagement ring so.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 10:21 PM |
| 5 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).I'm not advocating rallying as a unit. I'm advocating for men having standards for the women they individually choose to interact with, and also a code of themselves. A line they refuse to cross, if you will. Personal responsibility (as Jordan Peterson once put it.. or maybe 100 times or whatever) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 10:19 PM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).You don't have to believe me, and honestly there's nothing I could do to prove it either so 🤷♂️. But I reject your premise that my mindset is any of the things you've attributed to me. How is advocating for equity in gender dynamics, or holding women to the same social standards that they hold men, in any way hostile, militant, aggressive, or incompatible with having a relationship? I never said ALL women are bad; And in fact many are exceptional (like my gf). But what I did say is that society… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 10:15 PM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).We've talked about it a bit. If it happens, I'll probably propose in a more traditional way with a getaway in Thailand or something of that nature. But if I do, I'll do it because I want to surprise her and make her happy, and not due to some form of externally imposed expectation. As for the rings we'll likely just exchange bands (she's in finance and thinks spending tens of thousands on a social convention is insane). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 10:06 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Yes. But I ain't posting them here. Lol. She's been in Levi's, Mackage, Daniel Wellington, New York fashion week, Toronto women's fashion week, Toronto men's fashion week (I know), Vogue, and Couture magazine.. and whole ton of other shit. She also has a MBA from a top University and works in international finance. Good women with high standards for themselves are our there. You just need to have unflinching standards to find them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 10:02 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Haaaahaha. Best response man 🤜 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 09:41 PM |
| 5 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).This post is part of that attempt. Haha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 09:39 PM |
| 8 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).How does holding women to the same standards that they hold men constitute hate? How does expecting equity in intersex dynamics to scale with societal changes constitute hate? How does protecting one's self against a biased legal system constitute hate? Notice how nowhere I the OP did I ever advocate for imposing any form of oppression on women. I just advocates for the rejection of unjust privilege and accountability. But I guess in your world, not getting to keep your privilege is tantamount t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 09:38 PM |
| 3 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Yes. She knows why, and agrees with a lot of the premises. I'm good at making very cogent arguments, so that helps. But I also treat her well. Not in a 'i dote on you and pay for everything' way, but a 'I treat her like a human being, hold her and myself to standards, take care of her needs in the bedroom, and generally be a decent human being in the context of the relationship.' sorta way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 09:33 PM |
| 2 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Wrong. I do ALL of these things, and have a beautiful New York runway model of a girlfriend who would rather respect herself and earn her own way instead of being some sort of social parasite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 09:29 PM |
| 1 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Lol. How is expecting a woman to be an adult and pay her own way (which she clearly can just as much as I) being an asshole? How is holding her up to the same standards she expects of men being an asshole? Incidentally, I do have a girlfriend of several years. A beautiful, intelligent, self-sufficient, self-respecting woman who wants to be recognized for her actual achievements, instead of being content to just be a social parasite, debase herself by milk her innate sexual advantage, or expect s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 09:27 PM |
| 11 | Men should start actively rejecting all forms of female privilege (and also male disadvantage).Bullshit. I do all of the things I listed, and I still have a girlfriend (and a hot one at that). She just prides herself on actually being able to earn and pay her own way, and cares more about the other attributes I bring to the table other than what financial gain she can leech off of me. And on top of that, she actually respects me more when I call her our on her bs or hold her accountable. I do it respectfully, but only because she respects herself to not expect some sort of privileged posi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 09:22 PM |
| 4 | Crazy wife gets sued for psychotic online defamation campaign; Financially ruins breadwinner husband.I wouldn't be surprised. Or frame him for some egregious crime. Or hire someone to kill him. | /r/MGTOW | 09/04/19 05:42 PM |
| 6 | Crazy wife gets sued for psychotic online defamation campaign; Financially ruins breadwinner husband.Exactly. This woman sounds like she has a full blown personality disorder, not just regular levels of female neuroticism, vindictiveness and pettiness. If they hadn't locked the comments I was gonna tell OP to get all his ducks in a row, make sure he's protected, document everything and then run for the hills. Cuz if she's capable of this kind of protracted reputational violence campaign against an ex friend, just imagine what she'd try to do to the man divorcing her... | /r/MGTOW | 09/04/19 05:02 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Didn't say he 'should'. I said he 'can'. In otherwords, if more of them did this, society would be better for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 02:05 PM |
| 3 | Why women make “relationship material” guys wait, but not Chad.Your are 100% right here, I just think your conception of the dual mating strategy (as defined) is off. Women don't want to 'only' fuck alphas, and obtain committment from betas. They want to obtain the seed (sex) and provisioning (committment) from the highest value make that they can. Period. It's just that for most women this is not possible. And so the strategy follows a spectrum of most to least ideal outcomes. If she can find a high value mate and secure his seed AND provisioning exclusive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 02:02 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Sorry, that was a typo. Should have read 1/25, or roughly 4% for paternity fraud, though that number goes way up to 10% in cases where husbands have uncertain confidence in their paternity, and as high as 30% in cases where they have suspicion. But that still means that in cases where husband are absolutely certain that their wives have been faithful, and haven't even requested a paternity test for verification purposes.. they still have 4% chance of discovering that they been unwittingly raisin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 04:05 AM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Explain? What's the no win scenario? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 02:57 AM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.More and more of them do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 01:13 AM |
| 19 | Why women make “relationship material” guys wait, but not Chad.Hahaha. It's not about 'actually' getting pregnant by Chad. It the biologically driven behavior that comes from millenia old evolutionary imperatives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 10:39 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.You seem to find it triggering more than anything else, ngl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 10:09 PM |
| 43 | Why women make “relationship material” guys wait, but not Chad.The dual female mating strategy. High quality men don't have 'relationships' with sluts, so if a girl wants a relationship, then she doesn't want to appear to be a slut. Chad is only good for his alpha genes though, so she's free to fuck him right away, and then secure a beta to raise Chad's offspring after the fact. This is evolutionary biology and TRP 101 friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 10:06 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.What are you even doing on this sub? Just here for the hate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 10:01 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Believe what you want. I phrased it poorly in the OP because it was an aside and not the main point, and I've since elaborated in the follow up. Am I conscious of what I'm doing when I cause other women to experience attraction for me in her presence? Sure. But I do it for her benefit, and if her arousal whenever we get home after such social engagements is any indicator, then it actually turns her on quite a bit. More to the point though, she's never voiced it as a problem or framed it as me cr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 09:55 PM |
| 0 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Men may be more likely to cheat, but women are FAR more likely to engage in extra marital affairs. So likely in fact that fully 1-5 children are not biologically related to the father named on their birth certificate. Women are also far more likely to leave a spouse for an extra marital partner. There are evolutionary reasons for both the make cheating and female affair/ paternity fraud data of course. Men may be more likely to abandon their own children, because women get far more support from … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 09:44 PM |
| 2 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.In what way is being fun or charismatic in conversation with other women disrespectful to her? She has my love and devotion, and it actually makes her want me more to know that I'm an object of desire (and her an object of envy) for other women too. What's more, men come up and hit on her at social events all the time, and she politely entertains them without overtly leading them on. I'm secure enough in my own value to let her handle it without getting jealous, and even playfully tease her abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 09:36 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Because they either can't or won't? (If the current state of affairs isn't evidence enough of that). The point is that by refusing to give in and fuel female hypergamy, and instead holding them to behavioral and moral standards, they will have no choice but to revise their behavior or else be left out in the cold. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 09:18 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.To be clear, when I say 'openly flirt' I don't mean 'actively court female desire or lead them to believe I'm sexually available'. I just mean that I'm fun and interesting in conversation with other women while in her company, and she can see the other women checking her out to find out what it is that she has that made her able to lock me down. But believe me when I say that she is very secure in the fact that she can love and trust me. She knows I'd never cheat, but only because I choose to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 09:15 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Because in the grander scheme maybe theres more to a fulfilling life than just banging tons of hotties. Like a sustainable society for instance. My point is that women will never check their own hypergamy, and now that the Pandora's box of OLD and social media have opened up, it needs to be checked somehow, or I fear for the existential consequences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 09:05 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Good point. I can't say otherwise, as that's exactly what I did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 09:01 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Damn right it is. Every man needs to be TRP aware. It's fucking life or death in the current blue pilled paradigm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 08:51 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.No, I have caught it. You're just wrong, and keep asserting it anyway while offering no justification whatsoever for your assertion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 08:49 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Might be true. But I think this is precisely what TRP advocates for young men, and even what I believe Rollo Tomassi is up to himself now. I also do think that it IS for the better if most men adopt that strategy and curtail female hypergamy, which is basically what religious or institutional monogamy accomplished, and it seems that most men faired in that system then the current one, and a strong argument could be made that was better for women too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 08:48 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Not trying to say 'do as I say, not as I do'. I actually just sorta figured it out organically by experience, and am relaying that as my conclusion. But you're right it that it may be a bit of a 'got it out of my system' situation too. Funny thing is it was precisely that whole experience with women's true nature that ended up red pilling me, and I only found the actual online culture after the fact. Why does it make me sound crazy tho? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 08:41 PM |
| 2 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Uh.. you're the one pushing the shame tactics and trying to convince me that marriage is necessary. You're like a Christian trying to tell me God is real and that 'only weak people don't believe in God', and then complaining when I ask you to provide just one good reason why I SHOULD believe in God. Do you not see how ridiculous that looks? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 08:33 PM |
| 2 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.that's literally how alpha males and women and the you know whos get you beta dupes to slave away to make things better for them. Who said I'm slaving away. I've had my fill of easy pussy, I'm on my game, and I'm living it up. if OP has this mindset, then he is NOT a top tier man, he is a high beta at best. Suit yourself, I'm pretty solid where I stand and having nothing to prove to you bud. then blindly trust that she won't act just like a woman!" - this is all 100% bluepilled beta bullshit I e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 08:12 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Good on you brother. I wish you the best! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 08:08 PM |
| 3 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.I have REALLY thought about it. And if you had you'd see that taking marriage out of the equation does in fact avoid many of the root causes of divorce because the institution as it currently exits actually incentivises divorce. This is basic behavioral economics. You still haven't provided even one argument or perspective in favor of marriage, apart from shaming those who refuse to take part as being weak. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 08:08 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Who said breed and hope for the best? I said breed and do your damned best to raise them right. Big difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 07:46 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.She might have, but I have good reason to believe it to be true. For one my own level of experience makes me a fairly good judge of another person's level of experience. Secondly, at 22 she was rather young when we met (still is), not from the US so hookup culture wasn't a thing where she is from, and lost her virginity in college, and she didn't have much time to rack up a high body count. And lastly, her previous partners were both in the context of LTRs, and I've seen the evidence of those re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 07:45 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.May be a stupid question, but what's a CMV? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 07:37 PM |
| 2 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Cool how you didn't actually address any of the detriments to institution of marriage as it currently exists, or give any good reason whatsoever that marriage is preferable or beneficial in any way, but instead opted to just disparage the motives of myself and my partner outright with literally no background knowledge of either or our characters or the quality of our relationship. You definitely convinced me. Good job! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 07:30 PM |
| 2 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Did you read the post? I'm actually one of those dudes. I had my day, and ultimately decided to choose monogamy and a family. And I do think it's the better thing for society in general.. though I also believe it's better for my own actual mental and spiritual health too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 07:22 PM |
| 2 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Lol. Are you serious? With 70% of divorces being initiated by women, and over half of all marriage ending in divorce AND all of the family law and social safety nets skewing in favor of women.. 'marriage' ain't keeping shit together for anyone. And certainly not for men. If anything, the ONLY thing keeping couples with children together is their mutual consideration of wellbeing for the actual children themselves. A feature that exits unadulterated in the absence of any legally binding contract. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 07:19 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Yes. I've done it before, and could do it again. I chose different priorities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 07:16 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Taught us 'what' is how people think or operate? That anyone should care about the overall health of society? I dunno, I do. And I'm a person who 'could' be sleeping with dozens of women a week, yet have chosen monogamy for the reasons described in the OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 07:10 PM |
| 2 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Who said it was anyone's duty? Just saying it's the best thing they can do if they happen to care about the health of society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 07:04 PM |
| 2 | The best thing a 'top tier' man can do for society is to find a quality woman and engage in monogamy.Because it enables female sexual hypergamy, and is fucking up society in a modern context? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 07:01 PM |
| 1 | Are Women Truly Happy in the Modern Dating Economy?Thank you for this. Since the original question was 'Are woman truly happy in this modern dating economy?' then I think your own experience maybe even supports that they might in fact be happier without it. Data and empirical evidence seem to point to the fact that most men would, so if your case could in any way be considered normative, then it may just be that everyone would be better off without it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 05:01 PM |
| 1 | Are Women Truly Happy in the Modern Dating Economy?Actually I'm 37. I've dated before and after online dating and social media. I have a good career, make good money, am in excellent shape, and look somewhere between Jamie Lannister from GOT and Ant Man.. so believe me when I say that I've experienced first hand what hypergamy is, and can verify from experience that OLD has blown it wide open. By one standard, I am the benefactor of this trend.. but that puts me in a very small bracket, while the rest of the population suffers. And that concerns… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 04:56 PM |
| 1 | Are Women Truly Happy in the Modern Dating Economy?Hey look. I only had to call you out on your fallacious reasoning to finally get an actual response! I'll give you that I should not have said divorce rates are up, and more accurately should have said they're as high as ever.. although your calling my allusion to the scientifically proven, and often explicitly acknowledged, female dual mating strategy 'nefarious' or 'evil' is, once again, a gross mischaraterization and straw man fallacy. To that end though, are you certain that your univariate … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Are Women Truly Happy in the Modern Dating Economy?Hahaha. That last line. Yeah, my gf sometimes gets jealous of the attention I give to our female cat (I think it's cute and tease her about it). Thanks for sharing though! I does sound like you've found a sweet balance there. Do you think it would be the same if you were living a more hectic metropolitan city life in a densely populated urban center? I do see a good amount of data to support that people are actually happier on average in smaller towns and more rural areas, and I can't help but w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Are Women Truly Happy in the Modern Dating Economy?Well now, that's quite the acrobatic feat jumping from 'marriages are down, and divorces and celibacy are up' to 'everyone is a miserable hermit'. Why is it that so many women, when faced with empirical observation and cogent arguments around their mating habits and strategies, either choose to outright deny reality or resort to fallacious straw man and false equivalency arguments? Is it because they actually know the truth of what is being discussed, but their innate mating strategy can't abi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Are Women Truly Happy in the Modern Dating Economy?That's good! Mind giving a little more context? Dating/ marital status. Experience in the current dating economy etc? I'd be curious to know what particular set of circumstances had generated your current level of satisfaction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Are Women Truly Happy in the Modern Dating Economy?Yes, I see couples out there. Believe it or not, I'm one of them. But I also see the actual statistical trends around sex, dating, marriage, and divorce, as well as the anecdotal climate on dating, relationship, and marriage forums, and it concerns me. Regarding your assertion that 'the vast majority have love', I'm pretty sure that's demonstrably and verifiably not true. Marriage rates are at all time lows, divorces are at all time highs, as well as rates of infidelity and (who could forget) ce… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 05:04 AM |
| 1 | Are Women Truly Happy in the Modern Dating Economy?Nope. Glad you got what you want. Do you think that's the norm for most people? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 04:04 AM |
| 1 | 29yo THOT thinks men she dates are 'taking advantage' of her if they don't give her 'financial help'Guess not. But it's a clear window into just how depraved it can get. Trust me, when the mask is off it's way more revealing than when you're just tryna decipher their motives by observing their behavior. | /r/MGTOW | 08/04/19 03:21 AM |
| 5 | 29yo THOT thinks men she dates are 'taking advantage' of her if they don't give her 'financial help'Yeah man. It's literally just 100% women blatantly hoeing it up for straight up bucks. It's betabux without the covert aspect. | /r/MGTOW | 08/04/19 03:17 AM |
| 1 | Are Women Truly Happy in the Modern Dating Economy?Not necessarily. It's called a rubber band effect. Things swing too far in one direction and then they snap back. That's why I'm asking if women realize that this trend is damaging to them too. My guess is that most 17-25 women absolutely don't; 26-29 epiphany phase women are starting to get it; and 30-36 woman are mostly in panic mode if they haven't got it sorted yet.. also they would have come up in a different time and will have been less impacted by the diet of lies and promises the current… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 02:44 AM |
| 1 | Are Women Truly Happy in the Modern Dating Economy?Maybe it doesn't matter. Maybe the unprecedented level of choice will undermine millenia old mating strategies and ultimately lead to the decline and downfall of civilization or even the human species. But eh, fuck it right? As long as we have all the Chad dick we can get our mouths around, we good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 02:30 AM |
| 1 | Are Women Truly Happy in the Modern Dating Economy?Well, because I've yet to hear a cogent or convincing statement supporting the fact that they are. I mean, I know for certain 'some' are. For sure some men and women are still able to pair off nicely, usually when both are highly educated and high earning top tier people, but so far all I've heard from you is. 'The system works. Everyone is happy'. Which is patently false. 'Loads of meaningless sex without commitment does not lead to depression or low self-worth', which appears to be false accor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 01:38 AM |
| 1 | Are Women Truly Happy in the Modern Dating Economy?Actually it has occurred to me, and I brought up the potential correlation does not imply causation fallacy in another comment. In fact I do agree with you that a woman with high self-esteem sets standards and won't sleep with just anyone, but there does seem to still be both some clinical and also anecdotal evidence that the current dating market is leading to higher levels of disillusionment in both sexes. Mostly through OLD and the bar scene though, and less through more organic and tradition… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 01:25 AM |
| 1 | Are Women Truly Happy in the Modern Dating Economy?Fucking hot guys and then settling down with a 'nice provider' (aka, beta ATM) is the female dual mating strategy writ large. It's also why 70% of divorces are initiated by women, and subs like r/adultery even exist. Also, who says it's their choice? Subs like r/dating advice and r/relationshipadvice are literally replete with posts from woman complaining about how they're sick to death and miserable from being pumped and dumped by players. Straight from the horse's mouth + clinical data to back… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/19 01:08 AM |
| 0 | Are Women Truly Happy in the Modern Dating Economy?Do you have anything backing that up? There are studies that have actually correlated lifetime sex partners 1-1 with rates of depression and self-harm in women. Not saying correlation is causation, but it's literally 85+% linked. Also, there are good reasons for this psychologically, because if you're spending a lifetime getting pumped and dumped by hot men, but never securing any commitment from them, then implicit in that is a subtext that all you're good for is a fuck, and as you age.. you're… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/19 11:44 PM |
| 0 | Are Women Truly Happy in the Modern Dating Economy?No. I'm asking if people are happy. I see alot of women who aren't. The rates of female depression, anxiety, and even suicide are skyrocketing, and there seems to be a correlation between excessive meaningless sex or total lifetime sex partners, and low self-worth and overall life satisfaction in women. This is very likely not coincidental. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/19 11:36 PM |
| 1 | Are Women Truly Happy in the Modern Dating Economy?Who said people feel they should get exactly what they want? The problem is the majority of people aren't even in the game. This comment is either so woefully oblivious or deliberately obfuscating that it scarcely merits a response. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/19 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Alpha Isn't What People Think it IsI mean, you can redefine alpha from an evolutionary context to suit your purposes.. but that doesn't make you correct. There are plenty of betas who still get sex, does that make them alpha now? To that end, perhaps a better rule is 'Women will break rules for an alpha, and make rules for a beta.' But like.., the literal definition of an alpha is 'a male that is sexually attractive and has access to a high number of females.'. Not one. Lots. Period. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/19 11:09 PM |
| 1 | Alpha Isn't What People Think it IsThe only thing I can ascertain from these convoluted ramblings is that you apparently don't know the difference between subconscious attraction cues and conscious consideration of pragmatic consequences. Either way there's no discussion to be had because you evidently don't posses the requisite background understanding to be able to effectively discuss the topic at hand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/19 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Alpha Isn't What People Think it IsGreat summary. Feel like I've heard it somewhere before 🤔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/19 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Alpha Isn't What People Think it IsHave you actually read any books on evolutionary psychology or the behavioral psychology of attraction in humans? No offense, but it doesn't sound like it. That fact that we no longer live in small tribes doesn't change anything since our current mate selection cues arose within our ancestral environment. Just the same the fact that we can now get high calorie sugar for dirt cheap has no effect on our evolutionary inclination to prefer sweet food for survival purposes. Yes, there will always be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/19 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Alpha Isn't What People Think it IsUh dude. 'Genetic' was just a label I put on that first grouping of physical attributes, and I already conceded it would have been more accurate to call it 'physical' instead of 'genetic'. Nowhere did I say that those characteristics are immutable or couldn't be obtained through hard work (other than height of course). So how about you take a chill, re-read the original post, and stop attributing me with shit I never advocated or represented yeah? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/19 04:09 AM |
| 3 | Alpha Isn't What People Think it IsIt's not rocket science. Just as there are different body types, skeletal frames, and metabolisms, so are there different innate propensities when it comes to athleticism. You can see this in pre-teen and teen boys most definitively, where some are scrawny toothpicks and others begin to fill out and pack on muscle despite never having lifted a weight in their life. This can expectedly carry over into the world of sports, where no doubt most of the elite players were selected young and had a fair… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/19 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Alpha Isn't What People Think it IsExplain. I see no contradiction here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/19 02:25 AM |
| 2 | Alpha Isn't What People Think it IsTell that to natural athletes. Though I more acurately could have labeled that first category 'physical' alpha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/19 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Alpha Isn't What People Think it IsAre you a psychologist or therapist? Still waiting for you to backup your bullshit comment bud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/19 11:25 PM |
| 3 | Alpha Isn't What People Think it IsYou're talking about a character and plot lines. I'm talking about an archetype. Aka, a set of characteristics that personify a particular ideal. But it seems that's a hard concept for you to get your head around. As mentioned in the OP, some archetypal features of an Alpha personality can be: Stoic, self-assured, cocky, decisive, dominant, capable, sexually confident, aggressive (when necessary), powerful.. in a word, masculine. The Bond character fits that archetype, but it can just as easily … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/19 11:24 PM |
| 3 | Alpha Isn't What People Think it IsAs far as I'm aware, being red pilled means rejecting feminized social conventions and conditioning and understanding female nature and behavior through the lens of observed empirical data and science. What it certainly does not mean is being a conspiracy theory whack job. As for Hollywood archetypes, they're literally modeled after the traditional bad boy and alpha traits that most women can't control themselves around. They are, virtually by definition, the kind of men that other men want to b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/19 08:02 PM |
| 2 | Alpha Isn't What People Think it IsHe's a genetic alpha (see point one). May or may not be a social parasite. Definitely gets a pass on certain things due to his looks. Probably doesn't own any corporations or compete at an elite level of sports. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/19 07:12 PM |
| 2 | Alpha Isn't What People Think it IsHollywood alpha stereotypes are not just bluepilled programming. Many are distilled archetypes of biologically instantiated truths regarding attraction cues. The kind of black and white thinking on display here shows that you are a cognitively closed zealot, and incapable of having a good faith debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/19 07:10 PM |
| 2 | Alpha Isn't What People Think it IsThis is backed up by a ton of research. What do you have to back up your cute little bit of conjecture? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/19 06:36 PM |
| 5 | Alpha Isn't What People Think it IsI disagree with defining top achieving men as 'parasites' with blank cheques due to mere attractiveness. In fact I think it's patently false. Top achieving men are the only reason the rest of the population have jobs, smart phones, cars, grocery stores and entertainment. And in most cases their attractiveness had little to nothing to do with their competence or success. Try again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/19 05:54 PM |
| 3 | Alpha Isn't What People Think it IsSigma exists outside hierarchy and basically says 'fuck the rules'. He's a lone wolf who plays by his own rules. A quintessential bad boy, who usually will also possess some of the physical and behavioral qualities of an alpha. Think Wolverine etc. Not sure about gamma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/19 05:11 PM |
| 2 | Alpha Isn't What People Think it IsActually it's a umbrella term used to describe a subset of traits. Not the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/19 05:08 PM |
| 10 | Alpha Isn't What People Think it IsThat's precisely my point about a contextual alpha. A yoga instructor may be top dog in that class and get lots of female attention and attraction cues, particularly if he has one or two of the genetic traits too, but put him in a different competition hierarchy, like say a club for instance, and his social status goes back to zero and he has to compete based on his merits within the new social context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/19 05:07 PM |
| 0 | Is there any truth to this at all?I think the issue here is ambiguity and misconceptions around property defining an alpha male. 'tall' is not the definitive characteristic of an alpha. It's one of many, and does not necessarily have to be present for a person to be considered alpha. An alpha, in its simplest definition, is a 'top' man . Put another way, an alpha is a man who is seen as attractive to an abundance of women. That's it. By that definition, there are 3 separate classifications of attributes that contribute to ones a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/19 03:39 PM |
| 2 | Is there any truth to this at all?'Make better life partners' does not equal 'am sexually attracted to'. This is literally the entire point of the argument being made here. Women have a dual mating strategy. They primally want to get impregnated by an alpha and bear his children, while settling long term with a good provider. If they can have both in one man, great. But they're still attracted to different things at different phases of their life, and also fertility cycle. Your anecdotal experience supports this, not refutes it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/19 02:46 PM |
| 3 | Social media is what destroyed the dating marketBullshit. I'm a top 10% dude, easily. I lived through high school and college before insta and OLD, and in my 30's now, and I can verify that it's waaaay fucking different now. I can meet and fuck 10 girls a day now if I had the time and energy, and all of them in the 7-9 range. I'd get 4-5 a month at best in college. Now multiply that by a population of 3 million in one city and do the math. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/19 11:18 PM |
| 3 | Social media is what destroyed the dating marketI like how you made it personal and said didnt pick 'you', instead of didn't pick 'them' or 'less attractive guys. Assuming OP is low caliber, when he could in fact be a higher caliber man who is cleaning up because of these new dynamics. In fact, I am one of those top tier guys. And I have the perspective of having both dated in high school and college before social media and OLD, and now in my 30's afterward. And I can both very that it 'has' changed. A LOT. And I also think it's fucked up, de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/19 11:14 PM |
| 7 | People who refer to other women as a "pick me": can you help define the concept and why it's a bad thing, in your eyes?A woman who is down on all the thottery and princessing of the modern first world female, but in the case of a 'pick me', not genuinely so. Basically the female version of a white knight. 'I'm not like other girls.' is the mantra. And the hating on the current female zeitgeist comes from wanting to endear herself to men by setting herself apart from the rest of the thots on offer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/19 09:24 PM |
| 2 | Have you read a single book about evolutionary psychology?The Evolution of Desire The Red Queen So far that's it, although I recommend The Art of Seduction and 48 Laws of Power too (more behavioral and less evolutionary). The Evolution of Desire is a must though. Heavily backed up by extensive studies with empirical findings on male and female mate selection and evolutionarily instantiated attraction cues, both physical and behavioral. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 04:13 PM |
| 1 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyDamn. I've heard pussy farts before, but never a pussy burp! Gentlemen, this one's a keeper. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/19 07:21 PM |
| 1 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyYour brain is shit. Not so typical for a female.. actually just you really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/19 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyUmm. You can't just asser that something is a 'known fact' and expect it to stand. Especially not something as asinine as a claim that literally 'all' unattractive women 'make friends, buy cats, and live on'. Also, nice straw man argument there. You are the one who is projecting, as I never even remotely claimed that men don't commit violence, or that men and women commit violence in the same way. Women commit emotional, psychological, and reputational violence. Which is just as damaging, lasts … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/19 03:40 PM |
| 3 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyUndesirable women cause damage too. They become bitter, man (and society) hating radicals, who preach hate and the destruction of civilization to young and impressionable minds, and have much more destructive and far reaching impacts than we want to admit. Should we incarcerate them too? Every group has bad actors. If we punish the entire group for the bad actions of a few of it's members, everyone gets punished. But we can go down that road if you like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/19 03:30 PM |
| 6 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyHeck let's just give it to all the 'desirable' men too. I mean, we want to promote equity don't we? And while we're at it, let's just give it to all the women and kill off the entire human species. We're all a bunch of evil animal killing, environment destroying, war mongering cancer cells of the planet anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/19 03:22 PM |
| 3 | Advice for people who don’t want to get divorce raped?Damn son. We don't even need to roast you. You got that covered all by yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/19 03:49 AM |
| 4 | Advice for people who don’t want to get divorce raped?If you had actually read the post you would have discovered that it was gendre neutral. Newsflash, people DO get totally screwed over in divorces. And more and more of those people are women, as women are increasingly outnumbering men in university and outearning men in the workplace. Also, some of those people are ME. So don't tell me divorce rape doesn't exit, m'kay? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/19 03:39 AM |
| 1 | QuestionForRedPillMen: How do women collect their "cash" and "prizes" from divorce?Can't find the stats on whether it's contested in the US or not, but those are the stats in Canada (where I'm from). And at least 82% of mothers are awarded primary custody in the US, which is a stark imbalance, unless you want to argue that a full 4/5 men prefer it that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 11:40 PM |
| 1 | QuestionForRedPillMen: How do women collect their "cash" and "prizes" from divorce?That's 9 years ago. But yes, I live in Canada. EDIT: Just checked. Seems to be about $500-$550/ month per child in the US, or roughly $6000.00 - $7000.00/ year. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 09:46 PM |
| 1 | QuestionForRedPillMen: How do women collect their "cash" and "prizes" from divorce?It's the same in the US. This census report is back to 2014, but it's 82% and probably worse now. https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2016/demo/P60-255.pdf Also, you should prob care about what's up in Canada. Things are going a lot better up here than that trainwreck ya'll got going on right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 09:38 PM |
| 1 | QuestionForRedPillMen: How do women collect their "cash" and "prizes" from divorce?Wrong again. 80% of CONTESTED full custody cases are awarded to women (in Canada, not sure about the US), irrespective of which spouse earns more. This data is publicly available. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 07:49 PM |
| 2 | QuestionForRedPillMen: How do women collect their "cash" and "prizes" from divorce?This is categorically false. Family law states that the breadwinner must provide the receiver of alimony with the same quality of life that that had become accustomed to PLUS child support (averaging $800.00/ month per dependent child) PLUS additional expenses, such as sports and extra curricular activities and special needs. And this is to say nothing of the 'shared' assets shell walk away with. AND all this is irrespective of whether the man can even afford to pay those court ordered payments … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 07:47 PM |
| 2 | QuestionForRedPillMen: How do women collect their "cash" and "prizes" from divorce?You know damn well family law is heavily biased against men throughout the developed world. Canada, UK, Australia, EU included. California's laws may be worse, but that's like arguing that getting gang raped by 4 people is worse, so getting raped by 3 people doesn't count. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 07:28 PM |
| 4 | Question for RPs: What’s the point of working out if you aren’t fat?This is like asking women what's the difference between an A cup and a C cup if you're just gonna be wearing clothes most of the time. Trust me, if you're even remotely built, women will notice 'through' your clothes. Big chest, back, arms can be picked up even through a thick sweater, not to mention what effect it has in t-shirt or V-neck. In fact, my now girlfriend of 3 years told me she first realized she was hot for me when I turned to lead her out of the restaurant and she saw my back throu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 05:02 AM |
| 2 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyFair enough. I'm new to the sub and not familiar with that trend. I'm actually a male in my 30's too. White, Canadian. 5'10 and look like a cross between Jamie Lannister and Ant Man, and reasonably fit but not 'super' built. Work in tech and make decent money. And I'm told I'm funny and articulate. I've had reasonable success dating in the past, but got burned by an unfaithful wife and a bad divorce. When I re-entered the dating pool after over half a decade of being away I noticed things had ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 02:55 AM |
| 3 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyHmm, let's see. In your first comment you called us idiots and thick. Then you assumed I was ugly or autistic because my experience has been different than yours. Now you're assuming something is wrong with me or my social circle is toxic. When literally everything I'm claiming has been backed up by actual data.. not to mention a plethora of other commenters from around Reddit. Check out r/dating advice if you need more proof. Are you a woman btw? Because to assume that the average 18-25 year ol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 12:53 AM |
| 2 | Immutable characteristics and their impact on attractionDifferential response rates in online dating by height and controlled for other variables like facial attractiveness, money, education, race etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 11:44 PM |
| 2 | Immutable characteristics and their impact on attractionYou only thing it's irrelevant because you don't understand what controlling for variables means in scientific methodology. And btw, 'chemistry that people feel' is precisely what's irrelevant if you want to talk about the objective importance of height in female choice of mate selection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Immutable characteristics and their impact on attractionNot when it's observed behavior. My point stands. Why is this so hard to understand? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 11:05 PM |
| 2 | Immutable characteristics and their impact on attractionSry. You don't understand what controlled means in a scientific context. I can't argue science with you if you don't understand science 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 10:48 PM |
| 3 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyThat's so many assumptions it's ridiculous. And you still haven't even attempted to respond to any of my actual points. Lol I'm objectively that attractive because that IS what women think of me. I'm a professional model and actor (no not instagram.. like a real one that gets paid by big brands), and I've been told as much by more strangers than I can count. I'm also not even close to being on the spectrum, and can make strangers laugh within seconds of meeting them. I'm in a happy 3 year ltr no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 10:12 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Do you experience "chemistry"?I think you're conflating TRP with incel/ black pill, as I don't think any TRP ideal states that women 'only' respond to physical attributes in men. If anything men do more than women. What is quite evident though is that women respond to attraction mostly on an unconscious level, which is precisely the 'spark' or chemistry you're describing. Now of course physical attributes (height, muscularity, strong bone structure etc) can help to 'trigger' this unconscious response, or help a man to get hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 09:50 PM |
| 2 | Immutable characteristics and their impact on attractionBecause it's bad science? If you want to know how much height matters, you can't merely test for height as the only variable while completely ignoring other physical factors like facial attractiveness, status, muscularity and physical fitness, and career attainment or education, or even worse, behavioral factors such as experience and personal charisma. Because, and this ought to be self-evident, the results will be severely and irredeemably cross contaminated by those other factors. This effect… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 09:30 PM |
| 2 | Immutable characteristics and their impact on attractionAgain, statements and self-reporting are not as reliable as actual behavioral data. This is because people often think they want one thing, or 'should' want one thing for cultural or ethical reasons, but then are actually motivated to behave in ways that completely contradict their stated preferences. Ethics describes how things ought to be and economics observe how things actually are. If you want to know how things actually are, watch what people do, not what they say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 08:49 PM |
| 2 | Immutable characteristics and their impact on attractionThat's a small study from one single University that is based on self-reported data from 2006 only and doesn't control for any other variables that come into play in real world interactions. Hardly as credible as population level observed behavioral data derived from actual response rates of women by male height. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 08:42 PM |
| 2 | Immutable characteristics and their impact on attractionI don't have it on hand, but I'll take a look when I get home. But here's an article citing data from online dating stats that show the importance of height in mate selection. The difference in positive messages a 6 ft man receives over a 5'7 man is greater than 30%. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2524568/Size-matters-online-dating-Short-men-taller-counterparts.html Here's a graph showing unsolicited messages by height on Okcupid (which is not nearly representative because women almo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 07:49 PM |
| 2 | Immutable characteristics and their impact on attractionThe book is based on actual data from studies conducted across tens of thousands of subjects across 37 different cultures. It's the most extensive published body of studies in the field of evolutionary psychology on attraction cues in mate selection available. How is that speculation? And instead of telling US to look up evidence to support YOUR assertion, how about you just share your own data? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 07:05 PM |
| 2 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyCan we see some of those stats you're citing there? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 07:02 PM |
| 2 | Immutable characteristics and their impact on attractionI actually named the most conclusive book in my comment. Read it, and if you still need more there are plenty of others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 06:18 PM |
| 2 | Immutable characteristics and their impact on attractionYou say this, but data from actual behavior in online says otherwise. And even then your point about women being 'ok' with men 'about the same height as them' tacitly concedes that women aren't ok dating men who are shorter than them and would also prefer to date men who are taller than them. So in short, height matters. A lot. Like deal-breaker matters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 06:16 PM |
| 5 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyMale enrollment rates in post-secondary education and participation in the Workforce are at record lows, and young men living at home and never going out is at an all time high. Tell me again how young men are studying and working too hard and living nomadic lifestyle traveling and chasing jobs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Immutable characteristics and their impact on attractionAre you talking about OP's point on penis size? Yeah I agree that's not considered a traditionally masculine feature, and obviously it doesn't impact initial attraction (how could it), but I do know it must factor into a woman's satisfaction in the bedroom, and I'm sure it can be deal-breaker if too small or at least 'one' reason to stick around if it's exceptional and put to good use. As for the other traditionally masculine traits, both physical and behavioral, whether they are recognized and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 06:08 PM |
| 2 | Immutable characteristics and their impact on attractionIt's not about what is discussed it's about behavior and what people respond to. Study upon study, as well as a plethora personal empirical experiences, have shown that by and large most females 'respond' as though they find traditionally masculine traits more sexually attractive. And men respond the same to traditionally feminine traits. For evidence of this let's try a thought experiment. Take an archetypal male character in film or tv.. let's say Thor, Captain America, Wolverine, or James Bon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 05:36 PM |
| 5 | Immutable characteristics and their impact on attractionThere are books on evolutionary psychology detailing rigorous studies that show that height is on of the most important physical factors affecting a woman's level of attraction in a man. It's also one of the few physical deal breakers that women hold almost universally if a man is noticeably shorter than her. One book that I've read goes in depth into this. It's called the Evolution of Desire. Online dating apps have also released data that shows that taller men get by far more messages than sho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 05:27 PM |
| 2 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyFully 1/3 of women between the ages of 18-25 admit to using Tinder. That's to say nothing of the other major apps. And also doesn't account every other point made in post. How many women do you know that would date or marry a man who has less education or earns less than her. How many women do you know that would date a man that is at or below her level of physical attractiveness? Do you have any idea what it's like for men who are less than an (objective) 7/10 in physical attractiveness or earn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 04:20 PM |
| 3 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyGreat points and I agree. I read many of those books myself and it goes a long way. But no matter how much one optimizes their physical appearance and charisma, for many it won't be enough within the current dating market framework. Women just have far too much access to the top competitors (best looking, most fit, highest earning, most famous), and they way female psychology and attraction work, most would prefer to hold out and compete for the top 10-20%, or even go home with nothing, than be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 03:55 PM |
| 8 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyThey prefer masculinity from men they find at least somewhat physically attractive. But let a man they find less attractive or even repulsive try that same traditionally masculine behavior and see how they respond. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 03:51 PM |
| 4 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyOnline dating is only part of the problem and mostly with the younger crowd. For instance statistics you shared also show that fully 1/3 of internet users between the ages of 18 and 25 use Tinder, and that is to say nothing of the other big players like OKC, POF, Bumble, Match, and other similar apps in the Chinese market. The younger group is most affected by the sexlessness trend, and 1/3 is a pretty big slice of that demographic. You've also complete overlooked the other 3 points in the OP. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 03:14 PM |
| 7 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyHow's that working out over there for you Danes? From what I hear egalitarian equalism has brought it's own mountain of problems too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 01:50 PM |
| 7 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhySome people might find success, most likely not on online dating, and only after 'much' frustration and let down brought about by being, ghosted, pumped and dumped, nexted, and potentially falsely accused of impropriety. I'm one of those people and am happily in a 3 year relationship (so far), but it took a couple years and literally hundreds of failed dates and interactions to get there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 01:47 PM |
| 1 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyLol. I was done with him because he keeps making assertions without data and wasting my time. I'm also the OP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 01:42 PM |
| 2 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyThis is the data from OKC only. The data from Tinder is more extreme due to the mechanism of swiping and marching. But even the quote you provided actually supports my point, in that A.) At least women have an advantage, whether they choose to take it or not; B.) Even if they don't take it, their inbox will still be filled. And the point about less attractive men is debatable due to the imbalanced way women on OLD rate men's attractiveness; C.) Just because men reach higher doesn't mean they'll … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 04:41 AM |
| 4 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyYeah. Kinda feel a little legendary now you mention it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 04:21 AM |
| 5 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyDid you even read any of the OP? Your comment seems to exist in a vacuum and doesn't address anything discussed here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 04:16 AM |
| 7 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyExplaining he was the captain? What did I miss? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 04:15 AM |
| 4 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyThis comment makes no sense. Did you even read the post? Most of these people are not remaining sexless by choice. They are encountering serious socio-economic and technological barriers that are preventing them from fulfilling their most basic biological imperatives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 04:13 AM |
| 10 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyTinder and OkCupid. Their own data that they compiled themselves and release yearly. You're not paying attention and wasting my time. Done with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 04:11 AM |
| 2 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyThe 'numbers' you cited only show the percentage of woman who are married that earn more than their husbands. This fails to account for the percentage of women who are not marrying at all, presumably because they have not found a 'suitable' mate, and may actually count as evidence in support of my claim. While we're talking about numbers though, the statistics on marriage rates and single motherhood are crystal clear: Marriage has been in decline for the past 40 years, and is now at an all time … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 04:07 AM |
| 9 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyPretty sure I said Online Dating. Period. The interactions between men and women offline are not analogous, but I never made that claim. They are, however, hampered by their own set of uniquely evolving problems. Fomosexuality and 'next' mentality being only a couple. Also pretty sure I addressed several other reasons affecting offline sexlessness too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 02:45 AM |
| 13 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyHere's another article from the economist that posits that the videogame and porn addiction are symptoms and not causes. It literally sites the 80/20 effect on Tinder, and the growing inequality of distribution caused be OLD and social media, as causing men to see dimishing returns from conspicuous consumption (buying things as status symbols to attract the opposite sex), and consequently checking out of higher education and high level careers, and preferring to take low/ moderate paying jobs an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 02:28 AM |
| 15 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyYou don't seem to understand how population level data sets work. The data is literally 80% of women message less than 20% of men. That is utterly void of any interpretation. That means it 'has to' line up with 100% of the users actual life experience, because it's a literal straightforward reading of the data. 'Favored by people with little to no experience.' That's making quite the assumption there bucko 👏👏👏 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 02:21 AM |
| 18 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyThe linked article FROM OK CUPID is literally titled 'A Female Advantage' . Also, here's a scholarly study from The Economist that literally confirms my exact point (and relevant quote if you can't be bothered to read the whole article) 'As an example, consider how this increased competition plays out in online dating platforms. On Tinder, the top 20% of men are competing for the top 78% of women. Why? It’s a matter of the breadth of selection. Offline, due to the constraints of physical space a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 02:03 AM |
| 9 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyWho else would you go to for data on how index dynamics play out on their platforms? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 02:00 AM |
| 4 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyYou've made a lot of assumptions there bud. I'm 37 and dated in the 90's. Also pretty sure I explicitly said that this is not meant to be an exhaustive list of 'all' the factors at play, and also that I'm not promoting precisely that narrative, that I don't know what the solution is, and that it's bad for both men AND women. Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 12:33 AM |
| 0 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyOnline dating wasn't ubiquitous or in our pockets 20 years ago. Women haven't been out numbering and outperforming men in post-secondary institutions for 50 years. And they certainly weren't earning as much or more than men in the numbers they are now. And even if they were, the culture wasn't promoting singleness and single motherhood as an achievement to be lauded. The consent thing might have been debated, but noone was getting expelled and fired over mere accusations like they are now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/19 10:24 PM |
| 28 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyBecause I'm describing online dating here and not all of the ways that couples get together? You do realize that this is fact, supported by actual data released from dating apps? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/19 10:16 PM |
| 19 | Post wall woman hates younger womenI was trolling bruh. Just parodying her comment in reverse. Not understanding why dudes prefer young chicks is like not understanding why 9s and 10s prefer rich guys. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 22/03/19 12:46 AM |
| 39 | Post wall woman hates younger womenThese 35-45 men are geriatric creeps. I hate those fuckers, seriously. Why don't women fuck with guys under 25? We have much more to offer than those jerks. Well except their success, wealth, and life experience. Maybe it's their social status and money. Is that it? | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 21/03/19 07:56 PM |
| 7 | Life has already let you down. I don't think the all mighty Tinder can help.Chiiiill homie. People are just sayin that if she wants to attract a wholesome dude to have a wholesome relationship with, maybe she should try conveying a wholesome image? Like, if my profile said 'I'm looking for a nice honest girl to settled into a commited long term relationship with. You know, someone my mom would love. No hookups.'. But then posted a pic of me lying shirtless on my bed and unbuttoning the fly of my jeans, ppl would be like 'That shit is incongruent as fuck.' | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 03/03/19 09:37 PM |
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