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Couldn't be further from the truth. When I modeled in high fashion, it was the most beautiful women who were the sweetest and most down to earth women I've met. However, the women who desired to be them and were not often were the worst. Beautiful people are desired, but also envied. Only a person who isn't attractive could look at gorgeous people and think there are no downsides. People have crab in a bucket mentality, and jealously is a major driver in how you treat someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 04:10 PM
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This was his response to me.... "Women having hedonistic sex helps men because it shifts the demand curve of women demanding men to the right to increase the dating chances of men. Women being more promiscuous would have that effect and be beneficial for men in the dating world. Restricting women's amount of sex partners should move the demand curve of women demanding men to the left making it harder for men" So yeah, basically he just wants better looking men out of the way so he can have acces…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:24 PM
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Wow. Just wow. I always wonder how something like the holocaust could happen and then I see things like responses to Charlie Kirks assassination and your mentality on display. Your word salad could be simply summed up as "I don't want to reduce women's capability to have hedonistic sex, I just want to control better looking mens access to sex by authoritarian means, so these women have their hedonistic sex with me." Get fucked dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:21 PM
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Why do you believe that girls being better equipped to avoid becoming single moms as teenagers is the “decay of society”? You do know premarital sex happened fairly commonly long before birth control existed, right? And are you not aware that there are real health and societal benefits that come with birth control? so is my capability to poop in a toilet instead of in an unsanitary hole in the ground. Technology giving us better options for public health and safety is a good thing. Why do you sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:13 PM
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Okay we are saying the same thing but coming to different conclusions. One, your "enforced monogamy" is incredibly dystopian. It, like most socialist/communist thought, isn't practical or actually enforceable in any real way and would most likely end up in destructionism. You have to attack the root of the problem, and the root is the way we have enabled women to have hedonistic sex. If it weren't for birth control and contraceptives, women wouldn't be mating the way they are since it would come…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:47 PM
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I understand what solipsistic means, but we don't use it in that context here, we use it as extreme egocentrism. You should understand this, and you probably do, but thought it would be a way to weaken my argument. Cute. It is extremely egocentric to watch the decay of society and have zero problem with it as long as you get your funzies. To have selective and self serving empathy and outrage, to swish and sway between declaring which social norms are right or wrong merely depending on which ben…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:20 PM
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The data doesn't show it because there isn't actual data on it. How would you accurately gauge how much sex entire societies are having? What a huge cost that would be for something we already know by looking at other statistics regarding dating dynamics. We can also look at EVERY other mammal and see similarities. People also don't understand means, medians, modes, averages, and distribution. Say you had three men (Am,Bm,Cm) and 3 women(Af,Bf,Cf). One man slept with all three women....the avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:14 PM
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Male sexuality is the most regulated human condition. Meanwhile, we have unregulated female sexuality by unnatural means such as birth control, contraceptives, and dating apps. This generation of women are having hedonistic sex like no other generation of women have had before in our entire history on this planet yet here you are blaming men. I can't say I'm shocked that people would blame men for their natural being while ignoring the gross display of solipsistic concupiscent desire on women's …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:56 PM
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I think so too. Most of the women I have been with were average. A couple that were my equal. Although its hard to find women that are more attractive than my looks match.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 01:49 PM
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So you cant like sex and only want to be with one person? Its a rhetorical question, of course you can. My disgust for how you are living is far more than the act itself, but the fact it is unnatural and rooted in solipsistic concupiscent desire. You would see the end of society if the alternative meant you wouldn't be able to have a constant flow of dick. No technology has changed mating dynamics like birth control, contraceptives, abortion, and dating apps have. The way you date is so far remo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:31 AM
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Because they are diametrically opposed in their own value themselves. A woman who hasn't slept with tons of men and has dated with the intention of marriage is marriage material herself. A marriage material woman calling you marriage material is a complement. A woman who isn't marriage material and decided to live hedonistically in a way she wouldn't have with you, and then calls you marriage material is an insult. Any self respecting man would avoid these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:54 AM
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It totally depends on what type of woman is saying it. A woman who hasn't been promiscuous and participated in short term dating, its a compliment. From a woman who lives promiscuously....yeah no, its an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:44 AM
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I'm sorry no offense, but to me paying for sex sounds absolutely awful. I couldn't think of anything more degrading than that. I'd rather not have sex than have transactual sex in that form.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 08:24 PM
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If you re-read what I wrote, than you'll see that I gave my example of good looks to show I wouldn't have a problem for hook ups, not necessarily relationships. That was your own assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 02:46 PM
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Is it monogamy though? Hooking up with multiple men than sleeping with one for a bit and then rinse and repeat. Doesn't sound like monogamy to me but some polygamy/monogamy hybrid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:15 PM
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You could have easily just said personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:37 PM
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There were still people having children and living for something greater than themselves. I don't think this is going to work out well for our society in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:19 PM
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I mean there are a multitude of reasons. But your observation of people living together unmarried doesn't change anything I've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:06 PM
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I'm not sure how that refutes anything I've said. However, I would also like to add that there is one flaw in your example. The idea that when men do find water, that it would be worth drinking. This analogy assumes women are wonderful, and I can without a doubt say there are as many awful and undesirable women as there are men, if not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:01 PM
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Technically spamming downvotes/comments would be a site wide violation. And you could say derailing comments would fall under contentless rhetoric. It sure doesn't do anything for the good of the conversation. Almost like she just needs attention....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:40 PM
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Well it wasn't as much as an accusation as it were a minor inquisition. There is another poster here who spams every comment chain in a thread. Sometimes responding with at least some attempt to debate, but often just derailing comments. She will also just spam every comment she views as the other side with downvotes....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:36 PM
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Is this your alt?....... You have the same comment style as another redditor here.....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:27 PM
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??? I said 1900s to 1950s Im not sure what you're rambling on about....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 05:57 PM
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I loved my time in Europe, but the women were much like over here, if not more so. I haven't heard great things about south America either. Truly I don't believe the grass is greener on the other side, but maybe I'm wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 05:55 PM
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The problem is female sexuality is being propped up by man made devices such as dating apps, contraceptives, and birth control. Without these things they wouldn't be able to safely pursue short term dating in the way they are. So I believe what they find attractive in men would change.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 05:53 PM
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Every action has a reaction. There is always balance in nature. If we tilt to one side, don't be surprised when it tilts back the other direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 05:51 PM
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>The average guy is dating and fucking just fine. Can you please cite your source for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 05:44 PM
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So you admit we have gone too far then. You're assuming how we dated in the early 1900s to 1950s was oppressive, but it wasn't at all. It was actual freedom, the freedom to pair with who you wanted. Sure there was a lack of choice for women when it came to finances, that part we can do without. But everything else in how we paired was pretty evenly distributed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 05:11 PM
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There are other ways to figure out if you want to spend your life with someone without sticking your dick in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 05:07 PM
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They are comp cards from agencies I am no longer with. I purposely angled them that way to hide my identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 05:05 PM
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You made an accusation. Do you want me to lay everything out for you like an all you can eat buffet?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 05:03 PM
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No I'm not religious. I do believe in God but very differently than most. I see God as natural law, within all living things. I can see it in children, animals, and nature. I enjoy doing yoga, but most women I have met in yoga classes have been VERY promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 05:01 PM
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Looks interesting, I've never heard of the term. I will read up on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 04:59 PM
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I would agree that most women don't do casual sex in the form of hookups. But what I mean for short term mating is anything from hook ups, 3 month flings, to exclusive relationships that arent fully invested or with the intention of marriage and children. How you described your dating life is probably how most women live, its a cycle. Hookups and friends with benefits fill the void between short term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 04:57 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 04:53 PM
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No, I just like to observe people. I noticed women are rarely alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 04:51 PM
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/sophianelson/2025/09/09/gen-zs-radical-role-reversal-women-want-careers-men-want-children/ https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/poll-gen-zs-gender-divide-reaches-politics-views-marriage-children-suc-rcna229255
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 04:34 PM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/poll-gen-zs-gender-divide-reaches-politics-views-marriage-children-suc-rcna229255
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 04:34 PM
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Again though, you're assuming I am pursuing women. I'm currently not. And yes I do believe most women are living that way because they have been enabled to do so through dilution of social pressure, abortion technology, contraceptives, birth control, and dating apps. Women pursue me constantly, and I keep them around as friends or reject them all together.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 04:09 PM
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Hi, u/MongoBobalossus welcome to Purplepilldebate, where we debate on gender related topics. Do you think I'm walking up to random women in the grocery store and bringing this shit up? Do you think I'm going to discuss hypergamy, skewed opportunities, or whatever else with a woman at the bar? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:57 PM
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Sure, but for how long. Majority of people eventually want children and life partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:55 PM
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I thought the redpill was more in line with PUA than what I am saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:41 PM
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I've purposely pulled myself out of the market. I refuse to settle down with women who lived so hedonistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:39 PM
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There is a significant increase in levels of unhappiness and depression amount unmarried women. 28% of 40 year old men are never married and without children which is up from 3% just 30 years ago. People are miserable from freedom of choice because thats an illusion. The choice portion is the assumption that you can live that life AND then go on to live a committed life with one person. Does that sometimes happen, sure. But often I see men and women who BOTH lived that life pairing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:37 PM
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I never said I am or was struggling with women. Where did you get that from?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:33 PM
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Which is exactly why I brought up demographics. The white elephant in the room. Mormons and evangelicals get married overwhelmingly from 18 - 23. Tons of conservatives get married before 25 as well. So you're riding on the back of another demographic, which is disingenuous to apply to ALL women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:31 PM
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> was better at writing fake content when I was 14. Are you a chat bot, or do you just refuse to have ChatGPT write this for you? I'm confused, are you saying this is written by AI or not? Perhaps you should be the one working on your cohesive writing. >Lots of young liberal non religious women are pretty happy with the idea of a long term relationship. I honestly doubt you’re even average looking based on your inability to find this. What a shitty argument. Data so overwhelmingly shows majority…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:26 PM
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And neither are men but that doesn't mean demographics don't affect who is available to you. Im surrounded by virgin women. They're called mormons, and have strict religious practices. They also don't date non mormons. The fact is, majority of modern women on the left who are not religious do not make marriage and children their focus. They put those things off and focus on short term dating, which data clearly shows, women have a FAR easier time getting. The balance is so far skewed and women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:37 PM
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You ever heard of quietly quitting? Not everybody wants to go to the extreme you're suggesting, I am just not willing to accept women who expect marriage after living a hedonistic life. Fuck that. I will make a nice living, travel, and enjoy my time until I decide I no longer want to be here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:17 PM
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For me its like writing a journal. Some times getting things out is therapeutic. I didnt give up on women perse, I gave up on society. Im perfectly capable of finding someone. Hell I could dive into a world of hedonism if I wanted to. But I dont. Im not happy with what we have become.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:34 PM
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You know as men we are able to look at the system and say hey, this isnt balanced and doesnt seem to be working well - without slut shaming. Just because I dont care for current mating dynamics doesnt mean I want to make individual women feel less than.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:00 PM
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How many relationships have you had?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 04:58 PM
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I think most women are into casual sex, in between relationships. They just lie to themselves and say they don't take part in it because it isn't their constant way of dating. However, short term mating refers to anything outside of dating for marriage and relationships (hookups, fwb, 3 month flings, relationships that you know aren't ending in marriage). I would say thats well over 95% of women in some time of their life. A significant percent of liberal women (im left) will prioritize short te…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:40 PM
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Lets put it this way. Im very good looking and 6 ft 3, but Im 41. On the apps I can pull women my age but mostly older. In person I have no problem dating 20-somethings. For me, I could easily say I am 30 and kill on the apps, but I'm just not built like that. I would say most men have an incentive to lie in todays dating market. That being because the lived experience between men and women are so different. For the majority of men the amount of partners and experiences is significantly less tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 02:16 PM
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This is what I have been saying, that a significant percentage of women today purposely seek short term mating, but it always gets downvoted by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 02:09 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:46 AM
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Oddly enough, I have an easier time dating in the 18-25 age range than I do in the 30's and 40's. I don't often do because I'm not promiscuous and I am marriage minded. However, older women are more demanding of my status (occupation and wealth) than younger women. I find it hilariously ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:23 PM
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Shaming you for your actions, especially ones that have only existed for a few generations, isn't gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 11:13 PM
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Left wing women prioritize short terming dating until they don't. I'm not interested in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:57 PM
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Thats not my culture though. I'm non-religious and left wing. The women available to me in my culture have lived a life totally diametrically opposed to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 10:31 PM
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Yet, the people getting married and having children are from cultures doing it the old way. It seems those who adapted are more than likely to raise children in broken homes or be childless altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 09:41 PM
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You're telling me!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:08 AM
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I have never dated a woman that wanted equal anything when it came to norms that benefited her. I was always paying more and always making more. Its the same with all my friends too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 08:09 PM
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No its about reducing any female disadvantages under the law, while increasing or maintaing female advantages under the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 07:24 PM
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It is true in short term dating, it's only when women start to focus on long term dating do they begin to find equal partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 06:21 PM
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The studies you are refering to are largely unreliable and lack consistentcy. I also said calmer and husbandly, as in not volatile and less risk taking. Better to do with long term gratification, not necessarily less masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:03 PM
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Your logic doesnt make sense. What do you mean with your first incomplete sentence, "If it was biology based." Then your second incomplete sentence says "Then women wouldn't be acting like this at all." Biology is the scientific study of life. So what the fuck are you even saying? If its the scientific study of life then women wouldnt be acting like this at all???
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:25 PM
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Of course its worth it, but incredibly hard to find a woman that is worth it. Most women today dont date in a way that is congruent with that lifestyle. One thing I notice about women, is they get bored VERY easy today, and move on to the next thing. Its like they have been conditioned by tech for instant gratification and lost all capability of contentment, patience, stability, and long term gratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:18 PM
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Yes....roughly 60 years ago....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:12 PM
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Youre telling men who have developed for hundreds of thousands of years that their drives and instincts are wrong for something that hasnt been done for more than 60 years. The way women are dating today has never been done before, and it is unnatural. Mens disgust of it is perfectly warranted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:04 PM
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It was the advent of the latex condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:50 PM
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I would argue that it is not the equivelant, since it is even less disgusting and unnatural. Using resources for sex is as old as time. They say prostitution is the first occupation, and you can even see other primate species participate in it. Casual sex however, is not natural. Women need modern contraceptives and birth control to safely participate. In the natural world, women participating in casual sex were usually sex slaves in harems, or prostitutes living a very dangerous life. If most w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:42 PM
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This is why I just blocked that snowfallcherry woman. If I have 200 comments on a post, 100 of them are her, butting in on every single comment chain with these long ass comments that are almost impossible to respond to. Seems like an attempt to derail and take the chain where she wants it to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 01:49 PM
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The mountain west has far more practicing Christians than the south, and they are far more fundementalist. Since I'm not promiscuous myself, people tell me all the time why dont I just find a nice mormon woman. Because I'm not religious duh, our belief systems are totally different.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 01:13 PM
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It absolutely is natural wtf why wouldnt it be? Im not saying polygamy isnt natural either, yall are either purposely pulling this in a weird direction, either purposely or you just dont get the post so let me break it down to you what I meant by unnatural. Digesting a pill that changes your hormones and keeps you from getting your period is unnatural. Shoving a plastic component up your uterus to keep semen from entering is unnatural. Killing sheep and putting their anal cavities on your penis …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 01:43 AM
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And theyre probably living in mudhuts wearing banana leaves. I dont care how you define it, yall know what I am talking about. Two parent cohabitation is monogamy, and monogamous societies where most men and women pair off early are the most successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 01:35 AM
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I never saw your response, but im LMFAO at it. If I believed women voting was the problem I would have said so. Latex condoms were introduced around 1920.....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 01:23 AM
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There is a subset of men who have an abundance of three things (physical/social/status) and they are able to date the majority of women. Its not black and white, but thats just the easiest way to explain it. There is definitely a gradient.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 12:14 AM
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Congratulations you found periods in religious texts where men had multiple wives. So did the mormons 100 years ago. I never said it was the only way, but yall are painting it as this new thing. There are societies from those periods where people had 1 on 1 mating dynamic. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/our-secret-evolutionary-weapon-monogamy1/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3083418/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21453006/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 10:43 PM
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It is not intended to make you afraid. I think most women immediately think violence towards them, which ironically shows you what they care about most. I said violence, I didnt say violence towards women. Historically, mass violence causes a breakdown of society and men are often the biggest victims, of course women face violence too. Even today, statistically I am more likely to face violence from a man than you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 09:55 PM
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Yall are being disengenous as fuck. Two parent cohabitation is not the same as nuclear family and I said the two parent portion is not new. I then referenced THAT aspect of the nuclear family not being new. Not the nuclear family as a whole, which isnt even relevant to the post. The post is literally about mating dynamics, so why are yall bringing up whether your extended family lives with you, or if youre in a commune or not? The post is about pair bonding with one person for life - THAT is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 09:35 PM
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You are being disengenous by bringing in family structures when we are talking about mating dynamics. You know what I am saying but are twisting my words. So whether is a modern nuclear family, or an Inuit family 1000 years ago, there was a singular bond between man and woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 09:16 PM
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No I am just saying people saying nuclear families didnt exist are using extended families as an excuse. We know we are not talking about nuclear families here, but mating dynamics between men and women. Pair bonding with one person is what is being discussed and it is disengenous to say nuclear families didnt exist outside modern times (due to family structure) when we are talking about mating dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 09:14 PM
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Personally I think there are the three main attraction dynamics The Physical (height, build, facial features, hair, etc.) The Social (Emotional intelligence, communication skills, confidence, hobbies and skillsets) The Status (Education, Career trajectory, income and financial ability) What I often see on this subreddit are men that dont have The Physical, thinking that is the answer to all their prayers, when in reality it is not. We are increasingly living in a world where you need all three.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 09:00 PM
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Remove all lopsided subsidies for social programs. Single men should not being paying for programs they themselves are not entitled to. Stop shutting down male only spaces, let men have their social spaces, as women have theirs. Remove all DEI and diversity hiring qoutas, make them illegal, as they should be. People should be hired on their skill, not their skin color or gender. Remove incentives for women entering male dominated fields, or apply them equally to female dominated fields. Why are …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:45 PM
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Right but what I am saying is as far as mating goes, finding one mate is not new.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:32 PM
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It literally existed extensively before Rome and there are even substantial evidence from argarian societies. When people say two parent households didnt exist, they are being deceptive. Because like the Inuits, they techinically werent nuclear housholds, but they were still two parent families. Its just that cousins, aunts, uncles, and grandparents lived much closer and helped with raising children and providing resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 06:55 PM
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I absolutley agree with you from that angle. Something has got to change. I'm a tradesman right now but finishing my degree and getting into tech (fingers crossed). Theres really nothing I cant build with my hands and Im considering building out a school bus into an RV to circumvent housing costs and add some freedom to my life. I would absolutley love to travel the world in it....although gas prices.....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 06:31 PM
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>The difference between you and me is that I’m not trying to force men out of the work force to benefit my personal desires. You want to limit the freedom of half of humanity to cater to your personal desires. Nope, I dont. But we need to have to have a discussion on how we move forward WITH these new advancements, because clearly a lot of men are not happy. FYI, these men who are paying for A LOT of lopsided social programs. I do find it funny how you brought up the work force (why I dont know)…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 06:24 PM
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Marriage by law and government is new, but two parent cohabitation is not new at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 06:19 PM
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No it is not, what is new is record keeping and management from the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 06:18 PM
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Im not sure on the married statistics, but it also means that women are more likely to reproduce. The no children portion of the statistic removes quite a few women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 05:04 PM
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So whether I think its wrong or right is really irrelevent. I do however think it will have outcomes that are destructive to society as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:58 PM
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Oh I did, where? Where have we even as a majority group said that. All polling data shows men put marriage and children higher than women. You've been fed a lie, thats for sure. And looks like you ate it up. Was it yummy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:56 PM
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It absolutely is unnatural. It literally couldnt be done without advancement in birth control and contraceptives. Whether it is wrong or right is up to each individual, but you cant have your cake and eat it to. If you expect to do heavy exploring, dont expect to settle down and live that traditional life with a man whose never left town.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:54 PM
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Its one of many obvious outcomes that is worth talking about, but saying women have to date men they dont want to in order to avoid violence is awful. We do however need to have a discussion of possible outcomes, and ask ourselved where we want society to go. Do we want marriage anymore? Do we want children? If so, there are a lot of women living life in a way that arent congruent to having those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:12 PM
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So I think the apps have magnified a problem that already existed, not caused it. The same dynamics exist outside of dating apps. The men they are persuing arent who they would neccessarily pursue without these technologies. The places you mentioned are good ways to meet women, but as I said above, I think the dynamics still exist there. Women are choosing different types of men based on pushing back marriage and children, and being free to have consequence free sex/relationships. >Anyway I agre…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:08 PM
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"date men or they'll get violent" , not what I am saying at all. Thats a very diluted view of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:02 PM
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"Never married no children." It means the women are marrying similar men and are more likely to have children in or out of wed lock.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:46 PM
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No I never said that, I just included apps because they are part of the problem. The problem began in the 1920's and has gotten worse generationally since. >I'm not saying dating apps didn't completely change the world of dating, but I think your reasoning here is off base Youre literally ignoring the majority of my post and fixated on dating apps......
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:43 PM
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I think your memory of history is quite selective. Were the boys who worked the coal mines starting at age 8 not oppressed? How about the men who were also indentured servants or slaves. How about the millions of men died defending their homeland. Its easy to say women were oppressed when they look up and see all the powerful men above then, not looking down noticing the large percentage of men who they are walking over. Do I think women have sacrifices and had oppressive roles in society, yes. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:39 PM
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Firstly, I absolutley agree with the term "bad boys" being cringe. I even cringed when I typed it...but...thats what everyone is calling it. If you have an up and coming term I'm all ears. Aren't women just behaving like men now that they have the privilege? No. The idea that most men were living like that is proveably false. It has always been a small subset of men. But also I disagree with the premise. Women are trying to find out if someone is worth an LTR and since people like about themselv…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:15 PM
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Why not a wolf?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:03 PM
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Marriage is not unnatural, depending on how you view it. It is a word that defines a bond between two people, a bond that is meant to signify living for something greater than yourself. We have been cohabitating since the beginning, marriage just defines that. Two parent cohabitation seems to be the healthiest for both genders and offsrping.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:59 PM
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We live in a time where western men are the least violent they have ever been. Saying men today are pretty violent is pure hyperbole. The majority of men today couldnt even be violent as humanly possible because we have been domesticated like dogs. It will take generational decay to become truly violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:56 PM
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Data says otherwise. Most gen Z women list priority for children dead last (6%) meanwhile men it is number one priority https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/poll-gen-zs-gender-divide-reaches-politics-views-marriage-children-suc-rcna229255
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:54 PM
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You literally just explained away everything I said. The fact that you confidently said men and women have the same criminal sentences is absolutely telling. It is incredibly well documented that women recieve 1/5 the sentence for the same crime committed and are 50% more likely to not be sentenced at all. You simply dont give a shit and will see the world in a way that benefits you, and it is pointless to go any further debating you. Pure solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:51 PM
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Rights? The right to vote. Men do not have this right, we must sign away our rights to our body in order to gain access to voting and any government "benefits" such as social security. Outside of rights is the interesting thing. We are so lopsided in social program disbursement between genders that women as a group are actually a tax deficit. For example, there is a womenshealth.gov, a girlshealth.gov, but not a boyshealth.gov or a menshealth.gov. From healthcare, SBA grants and loans, education…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:32 PM
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Most men dont have avenues for proper release. Women bemoaning men has always been more socially accepted, and I'd hate to say it but it is for intended good reason. Growing up I remember going to Barnes and Noble to gather some self help books and most were geared towards women. Where have all the good men gone is a saying as old as time. Tik-tok is full of women saying some of the most despicable things about men. >I'm gonna end this by asking this, why is this manosphere mindset so attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:00 AM
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Alpha and beta males certainly do exist across all mammals, yet very differently depending on social heirarchys. We happen to currently exist in one where you at 5'8'' can sleeep with this girl and her 6'5'' wont break your neck to keep you away.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 09:34 PM
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What about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 05:36 PM
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The thing is in a more natural world she would be taken out of the mating world immediately, but since we have enabled women to have frequent short term relationships without facing the consequences of their natural limitations, we have enabled them to frequently persue these types of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:40 PM
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What no love for the 50 year old guys!?! I definitely dont think its the common standard, but there are plenty of older women doing it. I also see younger gen Z men doing it but didnt bring it up. A lot of young men get angry when older men date younger women that they view as theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:25 PM
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Or I'll just have someone younger, since I don't have a biological clock.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:19 AM
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She was 39, and he was 15... Yeah I think thats pretty fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:10 PM
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Uh, im not complaining. You misunderstood what I was saying. When I said I am alone as usual, thats by choice. I am extremely introverted and am often in my head. I enjoy my alone time. Its yall who have constant doom and gloom black pill bitch fests on this sub, constantly complaining of things you dont have. You're 5'6'' but do well with women, well there you go. You just proved my point. There are other things outside of height and a good looking face that women seek, such as social skills, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 12:55 PM
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I also dont think I look 24 in any way... Its to show how some people can look at the extreme ends of their age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 12:45 PM
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Right. I've never seen men attempt to manipulate women into thinking there is something biologically and mentally wrong with them for being attracted to adult men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:06 AM
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You cant get blood from a stone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:00 AM
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Ah, now I see why youre not getting it. Gaslighting isn't just tied to memory manipulation. It can be about perception and sense, self-worth, undermining confidence, denial of reality, your emotions and beliefs, and in this case a mans natural being.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:57 AM
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No thats your interpretation. If you have limited resources of meat, say 100 cows available to you of varying size and taste. If 40 of them are partitioned off to the neighbors, youre not caring about the quality of those cows, just that a significant portion of your resources are going to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:34 AM
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I dont have an entitled attitude, if a woman isnt attracted to me, than shes not attracted to me. Thats regardless of age. I dont think that your age requirements are bad for a woman in her early 20's, but as women fall into the range I was speaking about (28 - 36), youre severly limiting your options with a 2 - 3 year age requirement. I chuckle at the thought of a 35 year old woman thinking im too old for her, but thats her right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:26 AM
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The way you stated it wouldnt fall into gaslighting territory, but what would is when you attempt to make men question their natural being as if there is something wrong with them, thats psychological manipulation. Saying youre personally disgusted is not directing the disgust at the individuals being. For example, "Youre gross and pathetic for dating a 29 year old at 41. You're not normal and youre desires arent an example of what a healthy man your age would want" absolutely falls into gasligh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:12 AM
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The reason I feel like it steps into gaslighting territory is due to the attempt to make men feel as if their attraction and world view isnt normal. Thats the key. Big difference than saying men are pigs for liking strip clubs, men with bad hygiene are gross, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:04 AM
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25 - 36 year old women are not young women. Theyre women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:01 AM
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Yeah so who knows right, a lot of it would be assumption when just observing someone in public. Some of them could be first dates that will go nowhere, some of them a mistress. I guess what I took away with it was it shouldnt be all doom and gloom like it is here often. There are normal guys at very least with women that want to be around them. If men have the mindset that they need to be tall and good looking to meet women, then someone else will swoop in to be with those women, and theyll die …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:59 AM
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Yes I think its to force an outcome. Its what religions do all the time to sway culture. Men and women do it as well, to keep people and social norms in line. I think you are really assuming a lot about how I "focus on how women think of you". Major stretch there... I'm not really sure what you mean by making out an older guy to be a catch/prize. If there is attraction then there is attraction. Is a 40 year old average guy going to be able to bag a smoking hot 25 year old, likely not. Do most yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:51 AM
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Well sure, but personally I want someone closest to my age with also the ability to have 2/3 children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:45 AM
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Why do you think its icky? In this example, a man who looks incredibly young dating women 5 - 12 years younger than him. Why is that icky?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:42 AM
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Gaslighting is when you attempt to make someone feel as if there is something wrong with them. Its a form of psychological manipulation that attempts to make a person question their own perception of reality. Stating men are gross, creepy, and pathetic for being attracted to women 5 - 12 years younger than them and doing so doesn't align with normal thinking is absolutely gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:41 AM
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I think its totally possible to have a response stem from multiple emotions at once. Where I tend to think there is an intrasexual competition component to this, is the gaslighting. Its a moral critique as a social strategy to force an outcome. That outcome would be having men ONLY date women their age or older. Women have other traumas from dating certain cultures, men from certain occupations, etc. Do they levy the same tactics for those? Often not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:31 AM
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Well unfortunately thats life. There is a massive elephant in the room and its called reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:15 AM
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Because they cant rationalize why without gaslighting. You wouldnt need to only shame a 30 year old for dating a 15 year old. You could clearly define examples of why its so fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:11 AM
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a nearly 30 year old woman is not a teenager or under 22. Shes a full grown woman with possibly a mortgage. That doesnt apply here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:07 AM
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Were debating how women gaslight men who date younger due to intrasexual competition. The comment was used as an example. (2) Top-level responses to Debate threads must attempt to challenge the OP’s view
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:00 AM
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This is what I think as well. I think once youre an adult who is fully emotionally and mentally developed, what you have in common with a person often from the path you took in life has more precedence over an age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:59 AM
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practice* And I never said I observed women 15 years younger than me. Maybe the anxiety from the intrasexual competition gave you some neurotic thoughts and you misinterpreted my post? There were couples of all ages there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:50 AM
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Yeah I actually didnt even do it because of the scale, it just happens to work with it, but my range is 28 - 36, mainly because I want children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:41 AM
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Could you come up with an argument to prove me wrong or...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:38 AM
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I think so too, and also my range that I stated was 28 - 36. Yeah those youngins in their 30's! Oh no!!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:36 AM
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Unless you have been married and have children, there is very little difference with that small of an age gap. Like 55+, yeah, but not 12 years. We could be siblings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:33 AM
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Thats what the data from the apps shows as well, many young men matching with older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:30 AM
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I've never seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:29 AM
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Plenty of 41 year old women do date 29 year old men. They are free to do what they want as they are both adults. Personally, I think the older man/younger woman dynamic is a tad healthier and more natural due to the reproduction dynamic, but other than that who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:27 AM
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Is that what you got from my post, bud? Cause if so you really misinterpreted it, purposely probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 10:03 PM
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I mean, you are free to not date a twenty something, or you are free to do so. They are adults, and we should stop infantilizing them. Honestly, my life isn't much different now than it was at 25. I paid rent, I had hobbies, and I had my shit together. Had I gotten married and had children, than yeah, it would be different. Older women tend to get defensive and angry about this because they dont like being disregarded for younger women, so they gaslight men into thinking there is something wrong…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 09:13 PM
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Yeah I dont really care how much a woman makes. I care about more if she is happy and does the job interfier with our schedules or relationship hapiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 09:00 PM
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Ah, this is making sense then. BTW, statistically, more older women are hooking up with younger men on the apps than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 08:59 PM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 08:55 PM
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Im sorry, but a 41 year old dating a 20-something is not gross. There is also a big difference between 20 and 29. If you arent enough of an adult to figure out if you can handle dating a 40-something at 25 then youve got issues. Also, men often look much younger than women as we age due to having more callagen density and thicker skin. Its kind of like the same energy women have for wanting a man thats taller than them. I dont want a woman who despite being the same age, looks like she could be …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 08:05 PM
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Oh, well I am certainly not as good looking as I was at 23. I guess I make more now, but dont women also? I would prefer a younger women due to fertility issues, but I'm sure there are plenty of men that dont care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 07:58 PM
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Yeah I didnt think of the safety thing, that makes sense. Seems like in that setting I would need to bring friends in order to socialize with groups of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 07:27 PM
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Really? Because I think the overreaction to age gaps, brocolli hair, and wearing baggy pants in their 20's like I did in middle school is cringe. Also, can no one look younger? Did Jared Leto not look younger at 40???
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 07:24 PM
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I dont struggle, that wasnt the point. The point was that social skills are more important than looks. How you make a woman FEEL is important, and a lot of that comes down to social skills. Sure, initial physical attraction matters, but then you have to take it somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 07:21 PM
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Thats fine and is understandable. Its easy to say youre anything on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 07:10 PM
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Exactly, people are really blowing it out of proportion, my guess is from insecurity. I mean, I dont blame them for being skeptic because anybody can say anything on the internet, but then leave it at that then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 07:02 PM
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Yeah well, I dont exactly want my face all over Reddit. People who are angry at life could do some pretty mean things with a photo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 06:58 PM
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I'm not really sure what you're referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 06:57 PM
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I'm not complaining though. I have no problem cold approaching or socializing, its just not my forte. I think people are thinking I am saying that I am single due to my lack of social skills and that wasnt my intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:54 PM
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I feel like if you put me in a room of 30 year olds, some would look older, some would look younger. Guy I work with is 24 and got the short end of the stick. He's overweight, bald, with bad skin. Everybody jokes how I look younger than him. My cousin is 7 years older than me. A work friend of his who never met his sons came up to us and asked "is this your oldest." I'm not sure why people are so angry and defendant on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:44 PM
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My brain is wired a specific way. Being extroverted isnt a learned skill. Sure you can practice conversation frameworks and work through conversation obstacles, but there will always be people who are naturally charasmatic. Thats fine too, I wouldnt change a thing about me, and I'm happy for those who were born with that gift.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:40 PM
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I'm not really the hook up guy. I could have been if I wanted to when I was younger, but I always preferred a slow roasted emotional connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:37 PM
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you're* In reality you’re not that good looking bro. Alright :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:35 PM
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Well, I do actually. Thank you for the spelling lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:07 PM
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I'm saying that social skills are more important. If you had a good looking man with social skills and an average man with social skills, the good looking man is going to have more abundance of course. But why does that matter? The average man could still pair with someone.... And are social skills not a natural advantage? I would think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:05 PM
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Women arent just attracted to looks. Yall are hyper fixated on looks when there are other avenues for womens attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:53 PM
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I dont believe 80% of men are alone, the data doesnt show that. There is definitely an increase of single never married individuals in the last 30 years, but still the majoirty of people are pairing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:51 PM
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I'm not saying that women dont show interest in me, please reread what I said. I am saying social skills matter more than looks. I am also saying that average men are pairing with average or much better looking women. They are getting it done.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:47 PM
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Welp, my full time gig I am a tradesman, but for extra cash I model on the side. Companies pay me $1,500 a day or $375 an hr to wear their clothes and take photos of me so...... good looking enough for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:37 PM
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I mean, if touching grass means waking up to reality I dont think there is anything wrong with that. The fact of the matter is average looking men are pairing up with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:33 PM
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Okay, but that didnt change anything I said...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:24 PM
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You have me in stitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:20 PM
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If I lied about my age, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:20 PM
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Do you mean like on travel, or just go to a local hostel to hang out?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:18 PM
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Beer, sausage, dirndl skirts, pretzels, German music.....what single woman wouldnt like that!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:16 PM
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So funny thing with the apps, and I'll probably make a different post about it, maybe even redoing what I did to properly collect the data. I would only match with older women on the apps, and it was incredibly defeating to my self esteem. So I wanted to see how I would do at different ages, I did 27 and 33, all with the same photos. At 33, I would match women women much more easily in that age range, plus older women. At 27, I was matching with everyone, I almost cried. So there is something we…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:14 PM
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I understand what youre saying and would agree with you, however, Im a bit of a freak of nature. Full head of hair with no grays, gymnast level physique with 6 pack (the gym is my church and saved me from suicide), great skin with very little facial hair and no wrinkles, not even crows feet. I have a baby face. The only thing that has aged me is my slight eyebrow loss from an overactive immune system.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:07 PM
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No this venue is very safe, family friendly. Tons of police were present. Its an upscale area, much like Aspen, Colorado. I do see women alone in other places like parks, hostels, ceramics class, etc. Outside of ceramics class, I wouldnt feel comfortable approaching women in those environments. Hiking culture is huge where I live, but I am definitely not going to chase a woman down on the trail to say hello.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:00 PM
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Well, then that changes the definition of what is good or not, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 02:57 PM
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Yes it was super expensive but still fun. There was a German band with their traditional instruments and they played drowning pool, the crowd loved it. Fun atmosphere and the scenery in the mountains was beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 02:56 PM
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